Stephen Hawking Expected to Recover Fully

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Good news, after yesterday’s report that Stephen Hawking had been rushed to the hospital: Hawking expected to recover from infection.

LONDON (AP) — The family of physicist Stephen Hawking expects him to recover fully from a chest infection that has left him hospitalized, Cambridge University said Tuesday.

Hawking “was being kept in observation” at Addenbrooke’s hospital after being admitted Monday.

“He is comfortable and his family is looking forward to him making a full recovery,” Cambridge said in a statement.

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502 comments
1 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:19:01am

Good Afternoon Lizards!

This is good news. I wish him well.

2 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:19:04am

This is good news.

3 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:19:25am

GREAT news ! No matter what else happens today, I'm smiling!

4 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:19:38am

Great news. He continues to amaze us all with his longevity.

5 Randall Gross  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:20:03am

Good news indeed.

6 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:20:11am

The man is unstoppable.

7 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:20:13am

Charles, the first upding is from me.

8 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:20:30am

Great news! God bless him & may he continue to make guest appearances on The Simpsons.

9 yma o hyd  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:22:09am

Excellent news.

Professor Hawking is one tough cookie!

10 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:23:30am

Tough guy. I mean, seriously, this guy has fortitude!

11 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:23:37am

His history in our time is proving not to be nearly as brief as had been expected.

12 acwgusa  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:24:42am

Yay! Good news!

13 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:25:23am

re: #7 Ward Cleaver

Charles, the first upding is from me.

LIAR! You're like number 6.

/Isn't it strange how people ding in alphabetical order?

14 Pupdawg  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:25:36am

Fantastic news...he's the man!

15 gearhead  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:26:20am

Good news indeed.

16 robdouth  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:27:53am

This is horrible news. Oh wait, I was reading the Durban thread. Nevermind this is great news.

17 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:28:09am

Michelle Malkin and Ed Morisey are hyperventilating over another DHS scandal. Sad.

18 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:28:10am

Guy's been confined to a wheelchair & suffering from an incurable disease for more than half his life & he's still tougher than most NBA players, who will take two weeks off for a thumb injury.

19 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:28:20am

He needs to get back to work. Charles demands his space laser!

20 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:28:35am

Great news.

Many years ago, I read his paper "On the Thermodynamics of Black Holes". Somehow, I misplaced it, so please don't be nasty with corrections.

In the paper, he found that by assigning a temperature to black holes, the second law of thermodynamics required that the black hole "evaporate". The mechanism is, that on the quantum scale, "virtual" particles come into existence; you get a particle and its antiparticle arising from the vacuum. These must recombine and disappear within a short time to avoid breaking physical laws, in particular, conservation of energy.
Now, if this happens near the event horizon of a black hole, one virtual particle can fall in. The remaining one becomes real. Its energy comes from the black hole, gradually eroding its mass. The smaller the black hole, the faster the evaporation.

One line in the paper started: "In the unlikely event of a black hole creating and emitting an observer..."

21 robdouth  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:29:41am

re: #18 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Guy's been confined to a wheelchair & suffering from an incurable disease for more than half his life & he's still tougher than most NBA players, who will take two weeks off for a thumb injury.

Yeah but then again Hawking isn't exactly competing athletically in anything. His physical maladies don't prevent him from his mental pursuits. And in the NBA, sometimes it's coaches, trainers, GMs who make the decision to play it safe because of the amount of money put into a guy.

22 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:29:42am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Michelle Malkin and Ed Morisey are hyperventilating over another DHS scandal. Sad.

They are awaiting the new warning about the rise in left winger extremists perhaps?

23 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:30:04am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Michelle Malkin and Ed Morisey are hyperventilating over another DHS scandal. Sad.

Here's some balance for your world.

It's pretty close to breathless.

24 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:31:24am

re: #23 OldLineTexan

Heh.

25 DaddyG  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:31:58am

Um... Charles I hate to nitpick but your headline implies a miracle of astounding proportions or perhaps a stem cell thread.

It is wonderful that Dr. Hawking is expected to recover fully from his infection.

26 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:32:02am

This is great news!

27 JCM  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:32:37am

Godspeed to a full recovery Prof. Hawking!

That's good news.

28 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:32:39am

re: #24 Killgore Trout

Heh.

Makes Chris Matthews seem manly, IMO. ;)

Back on topic: Good health and continued best wishes for Stephen Hawking!

29 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:32:45am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Michelle Malkin and Ed Morisey are hyperventilating over another DHS scandal. Sad.

I tried to make sense of that. Is the issue over whether a civil offense is a crime or not?

30 NukeAtomrod  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:32:46am

I hope he lives long enough to get a fully functional cybernetic body.

31 Randall Gross  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:32:50am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Michelle Malkin and Ed Morisey are hyperventilating over another DHS scandal. Sad.

I wouldn't characterize Ed pointing out that crossing the border illegally is a crime under our penal code and that Napolitano got it wrong by calling it "civil" as hyperventilating, but feel free.

32 gearhead  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:33:00am
"In the unlikely event of a black hole creating and emitting an observer..."

Now we know the origin of Keith Olberman.

33 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:33:31am

re: #30 NukeAtomrod

I hope he lives long enough to get a fully functional cybernetic body.

Like Nixon's head?

/

34 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:34:00am

re: #32 gearhead

Now we know the origin of Keith Olberman.

As in the old Japanese golf joke, "Wrong hole."

/

35 jaunte  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:34:19am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Michelle Malkin and Ed Morisey are hyperventilating over another DHS scandal. Sad.

Maybe, but it is peculiar that the head of DHS would suggest it's not a crime to cross the border illegally. To quote her, "crossing the border is not a crime per se."

36 Randall Gross  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:34:31am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Michelle Malkin and Ed Morisey are hyperventilating over another DHS scandal. Sad.

This part is a bit of a stretch however:

The DHS seems a lot more concerned about the danger of American combat veterans returning home than they do illegal aliens crossing the borders, which speaks volumes about the political bent of the Obama administration.

37 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:34:53am

re: #23 OldLineTexan

Here's some balance for your world.

It's pretty close to breathless.

Ok cmon, WAB is a size 10? For real?

38 NukeAtomrod  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:35:11am

re: #34 OldLineTexan

As in the old Japanese golf joke, "Wrong hole."

/

Wong Hole?

/Ugh. Just asking for clarification.

39 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:36:15am

re: #38 NukeAtomrod

Wong Hole?

/Ugh. Just asking for clarification.

I cannot tell that joke here. FNDT, maybe. Anyway, it's a really OLD joke.

40 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:36:39am

..sorry, I just don't think she could tuck that cushion into a size 10.
/meow

41 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:37:26am

re: #23 OldLineTexan

Here's some balance for your world.

It's pretty close to breathless.

I threw up in my mouth.

42 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:37:56am

re: #40 Wishing

..sorry, I just don't think she could tuck that cushion into a size 10.
/meow

Maybe she knows Stephen Hawking's work and has an extra dimension.

/atoning for my OT by pushing the rudder back on-topic ;)

43 capitalist piglet  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:38:20am

re: #40 Wishing

Upding, because I've never heard that phrase before! Funny!

44 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:38:29am

re: #41 Alouette

I threw up in my mouth.

Well ,, it could have been worse,,,

You could have thrown up in MY mouth!

45 The_Vig  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:39:08am

Will he be able to walk again?

46 Ziggy Standard  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:39:21am

Biological and adoptive mothers of Slumdog star fighting in the street

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

47 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:40:08am

re: #45 The_Vig

Will he be able to walk again?

geee , and you had worked so hard to be in positive KarmaVille!

48 Ziggy Standard  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:40:22am

re: #46 Jimmah

Sorry, that should read stepmother.

49 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:40:39am

Quit pushing!
/sheesh

50 doppelganglander  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:40:52am

re: #40 Wishing

..sorry, I just don't think she could tuck that cushion into a size 10.
/meow

It's possible. I'm a size 10 but I'm much shorter than Michelle and not nearly as fit. If she's buying designer labels, they often run large to serve the purchaser's vanity.

51 Bullskin  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:42:02am

YEAHHHHHH!

52 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:42:03am

re: #45 The_Vig

*whack*

53 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:42:05am
54 Ziggy Standard  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:44:00am

Jackie Chan in hot water over the following remark:


"I'm not sure if it's good to have freedom or not. I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled."

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

55 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:44:08am

re: #45 The_Vig

Will he be able to walk again?

ALS, doesn't look to funny to me....it looks like a daily nightmare. This man has a strength that most do not possess.

56 Bullskin  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:44:58am

Ehm, for atheists and agnostics, tell me naive, but I prayed for him, as most believers did.

57 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:45:02am

Somewhat OT (instead of Hawking, hawks):

Cute animal watch

Carroll school officials remove nesting hawks from defective stadium light pole

58 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:46:08am

re: #54 Jimmah

Jackie Chan in hot water over the following remark:

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Maybe it was a joke?

59 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:46:14am

re: #53 saberry0530

(Received in an email in 1/2009)

In a few short days, an African American man will move from his private residence into a much larger and infinitely more expensive one owned not by him but by the taxpayers. A vast lawn, a perimeter fence and many well trained security specialists will insulate him from the rest of us but the mere fact that this man will be residing in this house should make us all stop and count our blessings - because it proves that we live in a nation where anything is possible.

Many believed this day would never come. Most of us hoped and prayed that it would, but few of us actually believed we would live to see it. Racism is an ugly thing in all of its forms and there is little doubt that if this man had moved into this house fifteen years ago, there would have been a great outcry - possibly even rioting in the streets.

Today, we can all be both grateful and proud that no such mayhem will take place. when this man takes up residency in this house.

This man, moving into this house at this time in our nation's history is much more than a simple change of addresses for him - it is proof of a change in our attitude as a nation. It is an amends of sorts - the righting of a great wrong. It is a symbol of our growth, and of our willingness to "judge a man, not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character".

There can be little doubt now that the vast majority of us truly believe that this man has earned both his place in history and his new address. His time in thishouse will not be easy - it will be fraught with danger and he will face many challenges. I am sure there will be many times when he asks himself how in the world he ended up here and like all who have gone before him, the experience will age him greatly.
But I for one will not waste an ounce of worry for his sake - because in every way a man can, he asked for this. His whole life for the past fifteen years appears to have been inexorably leading this man toward this house. It is highly probable that that in the past, despite all of his actions, racism would have kept this man out ofthis house. Today, I thank the lord above that I am an American and that I live in a nation where wrongs are righted, where justice matters and where truly anything is possible.

Who is this man? you ask.
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See here.

60 Gearhead  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:46:22am

re: #46 Jimmah

Biological and adoptive mothers of Slumdog star fighting in the street

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

On the Jerry Springer show in 3..2..1..

61 abolitionist  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:46:37am

Glad to hear Hawking's recovering from this latest insult to the flesh. He's a worthy successor to an office once held by Newton.

62 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:48:11am

U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday urged Palestinians and Israelis to "step back from the abyss," and said he hoped to see peacemaking gestures of good faith from both sides over the coming months.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

It seems we are back to "blaming" both sides equally. The old moral equivalence and honest broker crap.

63 abolitionist  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:49:07am

re: #53 saberry0530

Ben Franklin

64 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:49:14am

re: #35 jaunte

To quote her, "crossing the border is not a crime per se."


It's not. I've done it many times. You can do it legally or illegally. Crossing a border is not in itself a crime.
Also immigration law is an interesting land unto itself. Just like tax laws, civil laws, etc. they are all a little different.
They are selectively quoting her and getting excited about things she didn't actually say. It's stupid and dishonest.

65 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:49:49am

He'll be up and on his wheels in no time.////
(yes-I am bad)

Great news--he will be with us for some time to come.

66 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:51:03am

re: #35 jaunte

Maybe, but it is peculiar that the head of DHS would suggest it's not a crime to cross the border illegally. To quote her, "crossing the border is not a crime per se."

Janet used to be only Arizona's problem. Now, she is a problem for everyone in the USA. She is weak, weak, weak on illegal immigration. She blocked or tried to block every effort of the state legislature and county DA's to do something about it. She would posture and send a handfull of AZ Nat'l Guard down to the border and get a photo of her and boys standing next to the "fence" to show how tough she was on illegal immigration. Then, she would fly up to Phoenix and kiss the ass of any and all "undocumented worker advocacy groups". I have to give her kudos though, she was a slick operator and a tough cookie when it came to things political. She ran roughshod all over a majority Republican state legislature for almost 7 years. She is smart, but her views are wrong....a tough combo for us.

67 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:51:06am

re: #58 Ward Cleaver

Maybe it was a joke?

No he was serious. It's sad too. That looks to be the words of someone who has lost hope.

68 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:51:25am

re: #62 Nevergiveup

U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday urged Palestinians and Israelis to "step back from the abyss," and said he hoped to see peacemaking gestures of good faith from both sides over the coming months.

Note to Obama: the "abyss" you speak of is the 60 plus years of non-stop war & terror waged against Israel. Israel's back is to the sea. How can Israel step back from those who's only goal is to slaughter them?

69 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:51:27am

re: #59 Alouette

nasty-funny, but nasty.

70 Danny  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:51:49am

re: #29 wrenchwench

Looks like Napolitano misspoke during an interview and it's being nitpicked by Michelle and Ed. Not quite a scandal IMO, but I'm sure nitpicking politicians can be fun.

71 FrogMarch  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:52:46am

I'm glad to hear it.

ot: top of Drudge has all sorts of Democrat pol scandals.

72 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:53:17am
73 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:53:42am

re: #62 Nevergiveup

U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday urged Palestinians and Israelis to "step back from the abyss," and said he hoped to see peacemaking gestures of good faith from both sides over the coming months.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

It seems we are back to "blaming" both sides equally. The old moral equivalence and honest broker crap.

Has the zero ever been to Israel?

74 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:54:31am

Our Selective Moral Outrage
Why does Israel face more opprobrium than Russia?


Here's a contrast to ponder. Since the beginning of the second intifada in the autumn of 2000, roughly 6,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli fire. That figure includes combatants, as well as those killed in January's fighting in Gaza.

As for Chechnya, there are no solid figures for the number of civilians killed since the second war began in late 1999; estimates range anywhere between 25,000 and 200,000. Chechnya's population, at a little over one million, is about one-third or one-fourth that of the Palestinians. That works out to between 25 to 200 Chechen deaths per 1,000, as against 1.5 to 2 Palestinian deaths per 1,000.

75 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:54:35am

re: #73 Wishing

Has the zero ever been to Israel?

No, but he's been to Palestine the 54th state.

76 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:55:15am

re: #71 FrogMarch

I skimmed the list but so much of this is overhyped and/or not true. I find myself starting to tune out to news from the right.

77 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:55:31am

re: #75 ConservatismNow!

He was in Israel during the US presidential election campaign. Stuck a note in the wall.

78 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:55:47am

re: #67 ConservatismNow!

No he was serious. It's sad too. That looks to be the words of someone who has lost hope.

Even if he just meant the entertainment industry it would still be sad.

79 Ziggy Standard  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:56:11am

re: #58 Ward Cleaver

Didn't seem like it.

80 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:56:31am

re: #74 Kenneth

Our Selective Moral Outrage
Why does Israel face more opprobrium than Russia?

Hey, don't get them of their meme.

81 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:56:35am

Now here's an important story....
Nazi supercows at Devon farm


CATTLE bred by Nazi geneticists can be spotted in Britain for the first time, peacefully wandering around a farm in the Westcountry.

Before the Second World War, Adolf Hitler recruited zoologist brothers Heinz and Lutz Heck to breed back into life the mighty aurochs.

The huge rhino-sized beast features heavily in Teutonic folklore, but had been hunted to extinction in Europe by 1627.

Seen as a symbol of German oppression and efforts to build a master Aryan race, the Heck cattle created at zoos in Berlin and Munich were largely destroyed after the defeat of Nazism in 1945.

But aspects of the experiment survived, and 13 Heck bulls and cows have now been shipped from a nature conservation park in Belgium to sloping acres of field at Broadwoodwidger, near Lifton, on the Devon-Cornwall border.

82 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:56:41am

re: #75 ConservatismNow!

No, but he's been to Palestine the 54th state.

Interesting ...
And he has no plans to go, right?

83 capitalist piglet  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:56:43am

re: #73 Wishing

Has the zero ever been to Israel?

I just read that he won't meet with Bibi at AIPAC, so Bibi isn't going...what on earth is happening there?

84 J.S.  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:56:43am

re: #73 Wishing

Yes, Obama has been to Israel -- don't you remember the note that he put in at the wall in Jerusalem and what he prayed for was then leaked to the press?

85 KenJen  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:57:14am

re: #77 Kenneth

He was in Israel during the US presidential election campaign. Stuck a note in the wall.

There was some controversy over that. Can't seem to remember why.

86 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:57:17am

re: #77 Kenneth

He was in Israel during the US presidential election campaign. Stuck a note in the wall.

Ahh right ...the intentional note!

87 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:57:40am

re: #54 Jimmah

Jackie Chan in hot water over the following remark:


[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Say it ain't so, Jackie. I really like him as a "martial arts actor" who doesn't seem to take himself too seriously.

88 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:58:08am

re: #85 KenJen

There was some controversy over that. Can't seem to remember why.

Could it have been an American President candidate who went on a world tour in the middle of a campaign season?

89 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:58:14am

re: #30 NukeAtomrod

I hope he lives long enough to get a fully functional cybernetic body.

RoboPhysicist?

90 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:58:27am

re: #85 KenJen

There was some controversy over that. Can't seem to remember why.

The note became public, so they thought someone took the note from the wall. It came out later he mailed the text to some newspapers before he did it.

91 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:58:48am

re: #81 Killgore Trout

Now here's an important story....
Nazi supercows at Devon farm

They demand more liebensmoom.

/best I could do on short notice

92 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:58:59am

re: #62 Nevergiveup

U.S. President Barack Obama on Tuesday urged Palestinians and Israelis to "step back from the abyss," and said he hoped to see peacemaking gestures of good faith from both sides over the coming months.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

It seems we are back to "blaming" both sides equally. The old moral equivalence and honest broker crap.

Ah, jeez. One giant leap backward for Israel. I hope they ignore the hell out of our President.

93 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:59:04am

re: #87 Occasional Reader

Say it ain't so, Jackie. I really like him as a "martial arts actor" who doesn't seem to take himself too seriously.

I like the Rush Hour movies. And his earlier stuff.

94 hellosnackbar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:59:24am

Excellent news!and a big pat on the back for all the professionals at
Adenbrookes.

95 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 10:59:34am

re: #76 Killgore Trout

I skimmed the list but so much of this is overhyped and/or not true. I find myself starting to tune out to news from the right.

Not sure how deep any of the current list of "scandles" goes, but for a party that railed against and campaigned against 'the culture of corruption", it's amazing how Pelosi, Harmon, Murtha, Feinstien et al have their hands in a glass cookie jar. Used to be a pol would be discreet!

96 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:00:01am

re: #81 Killgore Trout

Now here's an important story....
Nazi supercows at Devon farm

Blond, blue-eyed cows?

/too weird

97 StillAMarine  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:00:06am

Dr. Hawking was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's Disease (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis or ALS) when he was 21. Bear in mind that most people with ALS die from respiratory failure, usually within 3 to 5 years from the onset of symptoms. However, about 10 percent of those individuals with ALS survive for 10 or more years. Lou Gehrig died about two years after he was diagnosed, yet Dr. Hawking has lived for about 45 years with the disease.
I believe that Dr. Hawking is a gift from G-d to mankind. Let us ensure that we are deserving of that gift.

98 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:00:12am

re: #91 Occasional Reader

Moosilini!

99 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:00:48am
100 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:01:02am

re: #81 Killgore Trout

I'll only be worried if they start sporting teabags hanging from their horns. ;}

101 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:01:16am

re: #70 Danny

Looks like Napolitano misspoke during an interview and it's being nitpicked by Michelle and Ed. Not quite a scandal IMO, but I'm sure nitpicking politicians can be fun.

Her remark was a little sloppy, basically. Overstaying a visa is not a criminal matter; sneaking across the border, however, is.

102 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:01:28am

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Moosilini!

Ding!

103 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:02:06am
104 jcm  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:02:09am

re: #96 Ward Cleaver

Blond, blue-eyed cows?

/too weird

Instead of moo... heil.... and they goose step.

105 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:02:10am

re: #73 Wishing

Has the zero ever been to Israel?

I am not sure?

106 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:02:12am

re: #95 sattv4u2

I agree. It's a mess of tax cheats and lobbyists. But I think it's like all the other administrations in that there's just so much of it that it becomes a blur. People just get used to it and start to tune it out.

107 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:02:32am

re: #93 Ward Cleaver

I like the Rush Hour movies. And his earlier stuff.

Jackie's first movie was IIRC the Big brawl..I loved it!

108 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:02:40am

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I agree. It's a mess of tax cheats and lobbyists. But I think it's like all the other administrations in that there's just so much of it that it becomes a blur. People just get used to it and start to tune it out.

sadly so

109 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:03:15am

When Nazi supercows are grazing, they are of course ubermunchin'.

110 capitalist piglet  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:03:22am

re: #95 sattv4u2

Not sure how deep any of the current list of "scandles" goes, but for a party that railed against and campaigned against 'the culture of corruption", it's amazing how Pelosi, Harmon, Murtha, Feinstien et al have their hands in a glass cookie jar. Used to be a pol would be discreet!

I heard last night (on television) that Harmon has suggested the real outrage is that the Bush administration [cue eerie music] had someone watching members of the committee.

How he forced her to participate in a quid pro quo, she has yet to explain...but give her time. She'll think of something.

Bush's Fault™.

111 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:03:40am

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I agree. It's a mess of tax cheats and lobbyists. But I think it's like all the other administrations in that there's just so much of it that it becomes a blur. People just get used to it and start to tune it out.

re: #108 sattv4u2

sadly so


20 or so years ago I was 100% against term limits. Today, 50/50 (at best)

112 Ziggy Standard  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:04:00am

Is this just a way to scam money?
[Link: irsvote.com...]

Joe the Plumber: Make your 99 cent call to stop tax forever!

113 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:04:12am

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

If they are resurrecting the aurochs, they really should move them to Scotland. That way, people could enjoy both Scotch aurochs and Scotch on the rocks.

I prefer the Scottish Highland Cattle....hippy cows are better than big ol' Nazi cows!

114 jcm  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:04:33am

re: #110 capitalist piglet

I heard last night (on television) that Harmon has suggested the real outrage is that the Bush administration [cue eerie music] had someone watching members of the committee.

How he forced her to participate in a quid pro quo, she has yet to explain...but give her time. She'll think of something.

Bush's Fault™.

Someone had to stand up against BushRoveCheneyHaliburton and do the RIGHT thing!

//

115 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:04:45am

Now, Nazi superfish would be referred to as Herringvolk.

/okay, I'll stop

116 Killgore Trout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:04:50am

re: #100 Russkilitlover

I was just looking at Lionheart's blog. He's the BNP guy who organized the protest that Altas posted yesterday. Here are some of the comments.....

Wonderful. And may this grass-roots protest grow until, like the Tea Parties all over the USA, there will be lots of well-attended rallies all over England.


.....

Although I am an American....I am very saddened to see what's so rapidly been undermining my Paternal Ancestral Homeland (Cumbria)...violent-hateful-dangerous Islamist Fanatics.
We Patriotic Americans have had our own "Push Back" TEA(Taxed Enough Already)Parties here on Tax Day! May GOD Bless us All!


....

This is only the beginning. Our new president is a usurper and pushing for the new world order to bow to muslim extremists. They passed this "GIVE" act here, which is basically a recruitment for a hitler youth army to indoctrinate our youth and put us dissenters in "camps". They are already creating camps. Last week, the DHS put those of us who want to uphold the constitution on the domestic terrorist list. The world is headed down an ugly road. Be strong.

Ugh.

117 Tumulus11  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:04:57am
'The huge rhino-sized beast features heavily in Teutonic folklore ...'


. It has one massive horn - for Goering.

118 Randall Gross  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:05:21am

rec'd in email from my Mom, letter enroute to local paper:

I received notification in the mail today that my husband and I will receive $250.00 each as a "tax refund," We are both retired and live on SSI - now our government is taking $500.00 of some younger couples' money who are struggling to buy their home, raise their children, etc...We will send it back or if they wont take it - we will find a deserving young family and help them pay their house payment for one month. I didn't ask for other peoples' money and am insulted that our government would think that. P.S. My husband and I make less than $2000.00 a month.

119 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:05:27am

re: #96 Ward Cleaver

Blond, blue-eyed cows?

/too weird

Bulls of Bashan ...

120 Kenneth  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:06:00am

Obama's New Gitmo

In a long and thorough post called "Obama and habeas corpus -- then and now," Glenn Greenwald, a former constitutional law litigator who blogs at Salon.com, exposes the gaping contradiction between past Obama rhetoric on the inviolability of the right to habeas corpus and the new Obama reality. He also quotes Mr. Obama's reaction to Boumediene as a "rejection of the Bush administration's attempt to create a legal black hole at Guantanamo."

Manifestly, Mr. Greenwald believes that "black hole" is simply moving to Bagram. "I wish I could be writing paeans celebrating the restoration of the Constitution and the rule of law," he writes. "But these actions -- these contradictions between what he said and what he is doing, the embrace of the very powers that caused so much anger towards Bush/Cheney -- are so blatant, so transparent, so extreme, that the only way to avoid noticing them is to purposely shut your eyes as tightly as possible and resolve that you don't want to see it, or that you're so convinced of his intrinsic Goodness that you'll just believe that even when it seems like he's doing bad things, he must really be doing them for the Good."

Ah-huh.

121 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:06:12am
122 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:06:16am

I love Hawking..He a geek stud..He should have died 37 years ago..But he has fought and won against all odds..That my friends is courage, conviction and inner strength.

123 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:06:24am

OT, but you've got to read this jaw dropping (at least my jaw) Wesley Pruden attack on Obama in the Washington Times.

Only a man with a screwed-up psyche, the likes of which we've probably never had in the White House before, would fly off to foreign shores to campaign against his predecessor and to offer abject apologies to anyone listening for the harm he imagines his country did to others, while carefully excluding himself from any of the criticism.

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

124 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:07:32am

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I agree. It's a mess of tax cheats and lobbyists. But I think it's like all the other administrations in that there's just so much of it that it becomes a blur. People just get used to it and start to tune it out.

If people tune it out it's because the subject rarely, if ever, gets discussed by the media. I have no doubt that there would be plenty of discussion if these issues were in a Republican administration.

125 Ziggy Standard  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:07:41am

re: #87 Occasional Reader

Say it ain't so, Jackie. I really like him as a "martial arts actor" who doesn't seem to take himself too seriously.

I somehow doubt he has any real enthusiasm for Chinese 'communist' rule, but it does looks he was trying to be 'on message' with the Chinese government.

126 gearhead  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:07:44am

re: #81 Killgore Trout

Now here's an important story....
Nazi supercows at Devon farm

Weird lightning bolt markings on their sides....

127 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:08:03am

re: #122 HoosierHoops

I love Hawking..He a geek stud..He should have died 37 years ago..But he has fought and won against all odds..That my friends is courage, conviction and inner strength.

I think once he's fully recovered, he should get a Class III license to install machine guns on his mobile chair.

Just because, you know, it would be cool!

128 JohnnyReb  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:08:10am

re: #110 capitalist piglet

I heard last night (on television) that Harmon has suggested the real outrage is that the Bush administration [cue eerie music] had someone watching members of the committee.

How he forced her to participate in a quid pro quo, she has yet to explain...but give her time. She'll think of something.

Bush's Fault™.

Thats because when he is not a complete and total idiot, he is the smartest person on the planet and can fool 535 members of congress with his Jedi mind powers! As it was claimed he did on numerous occasions.

129 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:08:10am

re: #122 HoosierHoops

I love Hawking..He a geek stud..He should have died 37 years ago..But he has fought and won against all odds..That my friends is courage, conviction and inner strength.

Speaking of courage, conviction and inner strength, has anyone heard from realwest lately. I haven't been around since early last week and I know he was expecting news. Was it good or bad?

130 brookly red  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:08:14am

re: #123 Opinionated

wow...

131 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:08:46am

re: #126 gearhead

Weird lightning bolt markings on their sides....

And they keep annexing the neighboring pastures

132 That's Mr. President to you  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:09:16am

Well I have been patiently reading this thread.

Like so many here and around the world, I am very glad to hear the Dr. Hawking is expected to make a full recovery.

That said, I feel the need to express a vital concern.

Where is Avanti? We are almost at comment 100 and he hasn't hijacked the thread to talk about how wonderful I am.

Instead, everyone is talking about Dr. Hawking. What has he done? OK - he has solved some math problems and thought up some wild ideas about how things should work. But aside from the math, that could describe me.

And has he ever been President of the Harvard Law Review? Has he ever been a Senator? And have you ever seen him at a press conference? It takes him forever to answer a question.

So let's talk about me and how wonderful I am. OK?

133 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:09:18am

re: #129 Ford_Prefect

It was good news!

134 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:09:47am

re: #120 Kenneth

It appears that denouncing something while being Candidate Obama is much easier than actually having to make a decision as President Obama....funny how that works. I can hardly wait to see what unfolds over the next few months as they try to explain away their policy to basically keep Bush's policy when it comes to the prisoners the USA is holding in Gitmo and elsewhere.

135 gearhead  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:09:51am

re: #131 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And they keep annexing the neighboring pastures

Vee are here legally! It vas the sheeps' fault!

136 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:10:10am

re: #133 HoosierHoops

It was good news!

Great! Thanks HH. I have been worrying about him and keeping him in my prayers. Very glad to hear it.

137 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:10:15am

OT ,,,

Dear Tiny Tim Geitner,

The DOW is currently up 58 + points, give or take, In that it closes in a couple of hours, could you please keep your mouth occupied with qwhatever you've been douing all day for that period of time?

Regards
My 401 K plan

138 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:10:19am

re: #129 Ford_Prefect

Speaking of courage, conviction and inner strength, has anyone heard from realwest lately. I haven't been around since early last week and I know he was expecting news. Was it good or bad?

It was reasonably, sorta kinda good. (That was my takeaway from his technical explanation.)

139 avanti  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:11:04am

re: #85 KenJen

There was some controversy over that. Can't seem to remember why.

Someone removed the prayer and gave it to the press, but noting of note in the prayer. The uproar was over taking and publishing the prayer.

"Lord—Protect my family and me. Forgive me my sins, and help me guard against pride and despair. Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will."

140 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:11:17am
141 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:11:24am

re: #132 That's Mr. President to you

It takes him forever to answer a question.

He's got a much better excuse than you do on that particular point, Mr. President.

142 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:11:31am

re: #124 LGoPs

If people tune it out it's because the subject rarely, if ever, gets discussed by the media. I have no doubt that there would be plenty of discussion if these issues were in a Republican administration.

It would be even more helpful if Republicans and so-called Republican pundits focused on these, real, issues instead of any and all rumor and innuendo.

143 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:11:41am

re: #132 That's Mr. President to you

Thank goodness I can't hear you when you type. Your voice is very soporific.

144 rawmuse  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:11:56am

It really takes courage to keep on living in the face of a debilitating illness.
At a certain point I sure it would just be easier to roll over and die.

145 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:11:57am

re: #104 jcm

Instead of moo... heil.... and they goose step.

But how do you transport them?


Talk about "ride" of the Valkyries.

146 jcm  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:12:17am

Obama Open to Prosecutions in Interrogation Abuses

President Obama on Tuesday left open the door to creating a bipartisan commission that would investigate the Bush administration’s use of harsh interrogation techniques on terrorism suspects, and he did not rule out taking action against the lawyers who fashioned the legal guidelines for the interrogations.

There goes meaningful humint gathering. Our guys won't ask or do things that might get them prosecuted.

147 NonNativeTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:12:32am

FYI
Dennis Prager currently talking about what if anything has been
learned from the Holocaust.

148 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:13:15am

re: #137 sattv4u2

OT ,,,

Dear Tiny Tim Geitner,

The DOW is currently up 58 + points, give or take, In that it closes in a couple of hours, could you please keep your mouth occupied with qwhatever you've been douing all day for that period of time?

Regards
My 401 K plan

Geitner actually helped the market today. More precisely the banks which helped the whole market.

149 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:13:24am

re: #131 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And they keep annexing the neighboring pastures

I thought they'd be like most Germans--very loud and have a penchant for wearing speedos.

150 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:13:24am

re: #145 calcajun

But how do you transport them?


Talk about "ride" of the Valkyries.

But once they arrive at their destination, they're entitled to seize the land, based on the time-honored legal doctine of Ruminant Domain.

151 albusteve  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:13:57am

re: #142 Russkilitlover

It would be even more helpful if Republicans and so-called Republican pundits focused on these, real, issues instead of any and all rumor and innuendo.

Michelles wardrobe has been endlessly dicussed right here and considered an important issue because...well because....for shame

152 avanti  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:14:01am

re: #132 That's Mr. President to you

Well I have been patiently reading this thread.

Like so many here and around the world, I am very glad to hear the Dr. Hawking is expected to make a full recovery.

That said, I feel the need to express a vital concern.

Where is Avanti? We are almost at comment 100 and he hasn't hijacked the thread to talk about how wonderful I am.

I jumped in and answered a question about your prayer in Israel my most exalted ONE.

153 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:14:21am

re: #150 Occasional Reader

But once they arrive at their destination, they're entitled to seize the land, based on the time-honored legal doctine of Ruminant Domain.

I just can't stomach that.

154 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:14:42am

re: #135 gearhead

Vee are here legally! It vas the sheeps' fault!

Da schwein! No really, dere ver da schwein in da pens!

155 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:15:27am

re: #142 Russkilitlover

It would be even more helpful if Republicans and so-called Republican pundits focused on these, real, issues instead of any and all rumor and innuendo.

I wish they would. Their voices are already diffused by a media that fundamentally disagrees with them and is more than happy to highlight those issues that make them look foolish. All the more reason for them to identify some key issues and speak with one voice or as close to one voice as is possible. Define a message and stay with it. Democrats are much more disciplined in this regard.

156 Dianna  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:15:37am

re: #151 albusteve

Michelles wardrobe has been endlessly dicussed right here and considered an important issue because...well because....for shame

Sorry. I'm a girl. I look at clothes.

157 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:15:53am

re: #150 Occasional Reader

But once they arrive at their destination, they're entitled to seize the land, based on the time-honored legal doctine of Ruminant Domain.

I thought it was Bovine Intervention.

158 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:15:56am
159 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:15:58am

re: #153 wrenchwench

I just can't stomach that.

Just chew on it a while

160 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:16:13am

re: #156 Dianna

Sorry. I'm a girl. I look at clothes.

I'm a guy. I look at the stuff underneath the clothes.

161 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:16:14am

re: #132 That's Mr. President to you

How's it going, ya' fucking Commie bastard?

162 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:16:24am

re: #143 wrenchwench

Thank goodness I can't hear you when you type. Your voice is very soporific.

In fact, I far prefer Dr. Hawking's voice.

163 That's Mr. President to you  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:16:34am

re: #152 avanti

I jumped in and answered a question about your prayer in Israel my most exalted ONE.

[fistbump]

Balance in the universe has been restored.

164 Dianna  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:16:47am

re: #160 ConservatismNow!

I'm a guy. I look at the stuff underneath the clothes.

Let's try to keep it clean. At least for a while.

165 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:16:47am

re: #159 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just chew on it a while

I cud do that.

166 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:17:24am

re: #163 That's Mr. President to you

[fistbump]

Balance in the universe has been restored.

SpaceJesus? Have you been given a job at lgf inc?

167 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:17:26am

re: #159 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just chew on it a while

Cud we not have puns today?

168 saberry0530  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:17:28am

re: #165 wrenchwench

I cud do that.

I for one am udderly disgusted at all these puns!

169 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:17:42am

re: #162 wrenchwench

Maybe he'll do a duet with Susan Boyle.///

170 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:17:57am

re: #165 wrenchwench

I cud do that.

Beat me to it.

171 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:18:03am

Speaking of Hawking..It was always hard to get my head around time going slower the faster you travel..The numbers add up but still..Going close to the speed of light slows time to almost nothing..Weird..
But Steven had a great thought experiment to explain it to us mortals.
Lets say you were on a race track with a clock with a ticking second hand at the start/finish line.. If you are driving a race car very fast around the track and at the moment you pass the clock you take look at it and see by the time you pass the clock the second hand hardly even moved..Try it on on bike and when you pass the clock it moves several seconds because of the speed you are traveling..Thus relativity and the speed of light..

172 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:18:08am

re: #165 wrenchwench

I cud do that.

Are you new here, I dont recall seeing you herbivore?

173 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:18:16am

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

As someone who sat in a church for 20 years, Obama should know--and should have known--that we are all instruments of G-d's will

Whatever the theological solidity or lack thereof the phrasing may have, it's of course echoing the Prayer of St. Francis.

(By the way, imagine the uproar if Bush had suggested in any way that he was, or should be, "an instrument of God's will".)

174 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:18:24am

re: #167 MandyManners

Cud we not have puns today?

You uddered exactly what I was thinking.....

175 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:18:37am

re: #147 NonNativeTexan

FYI
Dennis Prager currently talking about what if anything has been
learned from the Holocaust.

Well, if it was up to Hamas, Hezbollah or the mullahs in Iran to educate me, I'd learn that it never happened but even if it did happen, the Nazis didn't kill enough Jews.

/I know the aforementioned trio don't hold a monopoly on anti-semitism, but they've certainly cornered the market.

176 Shug  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:18:46am

Professor Hawking almost ran me down about 10 years ago.
I was strolling down the sidewalk in Cambridge, and along zooms this motorized contraption heading right at me.

Just about the same time I was going to say " Hey jackass, watch out" I noticed who it was and got out of his way

He didn't give me a second look and zoomed right past.

Lesson Learned : Don't play Chicken with Stephen Hawking.

177 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:18:47am

re: #168 saberry0530

I for one am udderly disgusted at all these puns!

Quit milking it then.

178 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:18:50am

re: #167 MandyManners

Cud we not have puns today?

Keep that up and your ass is grass.

179 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:19:08am

re: #168 saberry0530

I for one am udderly disgusted at all these puns!

sure. take the easy one. I for one am not going to sit here and read this tripe.

180 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:19:27am

re: #177 MandyManners

Quit milking it then.

You are not helping us steer clear of these puns....

181 saberry0530  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:19:31am

re: #174 LGoPs

You uddered exactly what I was thinking.....

MOOO slow see my #168.

182 yochanan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:19:49am

I am sure they are now going to have some SHOW TRIALS of Bushies just listen to what obama said today.

183 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:19:53am

re: #176 Shug

*WHACK*

184 Shug  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:19:55am

re: #180 LGoPs

You are not helping us steer clear of these puns....


These are sacred puns ( at least in India )

185 brookly red  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:19:56am

re: #157 calcajun

I thought it was Bovine Intervention.

I get to use bullshit in a pun thered?

186 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:03am

re: #179 ConservatismNow!

sure. take the easy one. I for one am not going to sit here and read this tripe.

You'll keep a civil tongue.

187 Buck  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:06am

re: #73 Wishing

Has the zero ever been to Israel?

Yes he has, and recently. It would surprise you that he told the people there EXACTLY what they wanted to hear.

I know that seems strange for him.

188 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:23am

re: #180 LGoPs

You are not helping us steer clear of these puns....

We are entering a true gelded age of puns.

189 debutaunt  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:26am

re: #151 albusteve

Michelles wardrobe has been endlessly dicussed right here and considered an important issue because...well because....for shame

hahahahahahahhahahahahaaaa

190 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:34am

re: #181 saberry0530

MOOO slow see my #168.

You bleat me to it.....tip of the horn to you.
:)

191 jcm  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:34am

re: #179 ConservatismNow!

sure. take the easy one. I for one am not going to sit here and read this tripe.

Before you run off, ruminate on your decision for awhile.

192 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:34am

re: #174 LGoPs

You uddered exactly what I was thinking.....

Some days things just go that whey.

193 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:37am

re: #180 LGoPs

You are not helping us steer clear of these puns....

Is it too late for me to horn in on some of these puns?

194 That's Mr. President to you  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:39am

re: #161 MandyManners

How's it going, ya' fucking Commie bastard?

It is going well. We are looking at ways to cut back expenditures at the White House.

For instance, we found a new supplier of Kobe beef, so we will be spending $110 per pound instead of $125. That will work out to a savings of $2 million in the next 9 months.

195 MJ  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:20:54am

Obama Open to Prosecutions in Interrogation Abuses

WASHINGTON — President Obama on Tuesday left open the door to creating a bipartisan commission that would investigate the Bush administration’s use of harsh interrogation techniques on terrorism suspects, and he did not rule out taking action against the lawyers who fashioned the legal guidelines for the interrogations.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Oh yeah, this will make us safer, won't it?
Appealing to MSNBC and Internationl ANSWER.

196 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:21:07am

re: #182 yochanan

I am sure they are now going to have some SHOW TRIALS of Bushies just listen to what obama said today.

I still don't think so. it would put a train wreck on the track of the Socialistic legislation that Obama wants to try and push thru congress.

197 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:21:07am

re: #188 calcajun

We are entering a true gelded age of puns.

It's filling me with angus........

198 albusteve  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:21:23am

re: #189 debutaunt

hahahahahahahhahahahahaaaa


bad fu....it may actually mean something tho

199 NonNativeTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:21:26am

re: #167 MandyManners

Cud we not have puns today?

I will not cow-tow to your suggestion.

200 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:21:30am

re: #178 Occasional Reader

Keep that up and your ass is grass.

GRAZE.

201 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:21:40am

re: #197 LGoPs

It's filling me with angus........

Anymore and I'm gonna yak

202 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:21:53am

re: #192 MandyManners

Some days things just go that whey.

Curd you repeat that?

203 bloodnok  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:21:56am

re: #200 MandyManners

GRAZE.

LOL

204 capitalist piglet  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:22:16am

re: #182 yochanan

I am sure they are now going to have some SHOW TRIALS of Bushies just listen to what obama said today.

Frustrating, I know, but: I don't think they'll go through with that. I think he's throwing a bone to his base, because they were angry when he suggested he was moving forward the other day. He doesn't need to do anything - he just needs to keep them thinking he might.

205 saberry0530  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:22:24am

re: #200 MandyManners

GRAZE.

HAY! quit feeding me all this bull! It goes against the grain!

206 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:22:36am

re: #180 LGoPs

You are not helping us steer clear of these puns....

I'm full of bull at times.

207 Ben Hur  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:22:42am

re: #200 MandyManners

GRAZE.


Now THAT was funny!

208 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:22:49am

re: #200 MandyManners

GRAZE.

Nice pun. You're out standing, in this field.

209 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:23:02am

re: #205 saberry0530

HAY! quit feeding me all this bull! It goes against the grain!

But she barley said anything!

210 bloodnok  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:23:25am

re: #206 MandyManners

I'm full of bull at times.

Well, heiffer the time anyway.

211 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:23:25am

re: #206 MandyManners

I'm full of bull at times.

You are cow toeing the line again

212 Dianna  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:23:31am

re: #209 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But she barley said anything!

Well, then, she should hop to it!

213 Ziggy Standard  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:23:43am

Foo fighters - for all the cows

Youtube Video
214 saberry0530  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:23:44am

re: #209 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But she barley said anything!

Well I'll just hop on over the clover then.

215 Shug  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:23:57am

re: #209 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But she barley said anything!

That's not what I herd

216 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:23:57am

re: #194 That's Mr. President to you

It is going well. We are looking at ways to cut back expenditures at the White House.

For instance, we found a new supplier of Kobe beef, so we will be spending $110 per pound instead of $125. That will work out to a savings of $2 million in the next 9 months.

Maybe ya'll could spend some of that savings on some decent clothing for WAB.

217 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:24:00am

re: #206 MandyManners

I'm full of bull at times.

How dairy you say that.....

218 Opinionated  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:24:17am

re: #195 MJ

Obama Open to Prosecutions in Interrogation Abuses

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Oh yeah, this will make us safer, won't it?
Appealing to MSNBC and Internationl ANSWER.

Must Read:

The CIA's Questioning Worked

Consider the Justice Department memo of May 30, 2005. It notes that "the CIA believes 'the intelligence acquired from these interrogations has been a key reason why al Qaeda has failed to launch a spectacular attack in the West since 11 September 2001.' . . . In particular, the CIA believes that it would have been unable to obtain critical information from numerous detainees, including [Khalid Sheik Mohammed] and Abu Zubaydah, without these enhanced techniques." The memo continues: "Before the CIA used enhanced techniques . . . KSM resisted giving any answers to questions about future attacks, simply noting, 'Soon you will find out.' " Once the techniques were applied, "interrogations have led to specific, actionable intelligence, as well as a general increase in the amount of intelligence regarding al Qaeda and its affiliates."

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

219 yochanan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:24:19am

re: #196 Nevergiveup

the left is pushing for them and obama just caved into it listen what he said today

220 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:24:53am

re: #212 Dianna

re: #214 saberry0530

Wheat just a minute, you guys can't double up on puns like that!

221 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:24:54am

re: #201 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, if you must up-chuck, then do so.

222 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:25:03am

I DECLARE COW JIHAD AGAINST ALL OF YOU CALFFIRS!

223 avanti  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:25:12am

re: #195 MJ

Obama Open to Prosecutions in Interrogation Abuses

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Oh yeah, this will make us safer, won't it?
Appealing to MSNBC and Internationl ANSWER.

Gibbs, just clarified that statement by saying issues of law are the purview of the Attorney General and it's his call. Having said that, there is a lot of pressure from the left to investigate how torture rules were written, but I'm for looking forward, not back.

224 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:25:16am

re: #215 Shug

That's not what I herd

It's a moo point.......

225 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:25:20am

re: #199 NonNativeTexan

I will not cow-tow to your suggestion.

It would behoove you to do so.

226 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:25:30am

re: #217 LGoPs

How dairy you say that.....

Let's get serious--this is no lactating matter.

227 bloodnok  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:25:36am

re: #214 saberry0530

Well I'll just hop on over the clover then.

Q. Why did the farmer keep going to the dentist?

A. He grew sorghums.

228 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:25:57am

re: #202 LGoPs

Curd you repeat that?

I'll chew it over repeatedly.

229 Ziggy Standard  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:26:05am

re: #222 Occasional Reader

I DECLARE COW JIHAD AGAINST ALL OF YOU CALFFIRS!

Are you quite surah2?

230 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:26:13am

You will excuse me if I don't get too excited just yet. This is a London hospital right?

231 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:26:17am

These awful cow puns are really a hol-stain upon the honor of LGF.

232 jcm  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:26:19am

Cow puns are vealnial! Toot your own horn at your own peril!

233 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:26:32am

re: #225 MandyManners

It would behoove you to do so.

So, whose rump is getting roasted?

234 saberry0530  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:26:37am

re: #217 LGoPs

How dairy you say that.....

It's just surfactant that these puns are Holstein branded.

(very technical)

235 avanti  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:26:38am

re: #204 capitalist piglet

Good point, if the AG decided not to pursue it, he can let him take the flack from the left.

236 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:26:39am
237 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:26:53am

re: #231 Occasional Reader

These awful cow puns are really a hol-stain upon the honor of LGF.

But the Jersey girls here started it.

238 alegrias  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:27:04am

re: #229 Jimmah

Are you quite surah2?

* * * *
Allah I know is the cowran allows you to bleat your wife.

239 MandyManners  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:27:11am

I'm gonna' go jump over the moon. bbiab

240 jcm  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:27:12am

Cows with guns....

241 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:27:34am

re: #231 Occasional Reader

These awful cow puns are really a hol-stain upon the honor of LGF.

You have a beef with me?

242 That's Mr. President to you  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:27:47am

This pun thread is derailing the conversation about how wonderful I am. People are being cowed into talking about other things and those who want to talk about me aren't being herd. Let's get off of bo-vine and get back to O-vine, OK?

243 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:27:53am

But, if they're keeping Hawking under observation, doesn't that mean they're changing the outcome?

244 yochanan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:28:11am

obama wants to set up a 'truth comm.' at least that is what it sounds like even the MSM at todays presser seems to get it since 4 different reports have asked about it.

245 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:28:15am

re: #237 calcajun

But the Jersey girls here started it.

Everybody seems to be steaking out their position

246 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:28:27am

re: #234 saberry0530

It's just surfactant that these puns are Holstein branded.

(very technical)

Sounds like you've steaked a claim to the most esoteric pun.......

247 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:28:42am

I want to take these puns and hide because I can't out flank you guys on it

248 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:28:59am

re: #245 HoosierHoops

Everybody seems to be steaking out their position

Damn. Beat me by 12 seconds....
:)

249 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:29:11am

re: #242 That's Mr. President to you

This pun thread is derailing the conversation about how wonderful I am. People are being cowed into talking about other things and those who want to talk about me aren't being herd. Let's get off of bo-vine and get back to O-vine, OK?

Sorry, Mr. President. It's just that whenever you open your mouth, we start to think of things that come out of cows.

250 raven1  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:29:25am

OT:
Here's a hilarious send up of Glenn Beck.

Youtube Video
251 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:29:40am

re: #247 sattv4u2

I want to take these puns and hide because I can't out flank you guys on it

We're just ribbing you

252 yochanan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:29:48am

they are now sending up a trial balloon on this issue

253 gearhead  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:29:50am

I just love all the good-natured ribbing on these pun threads.

And that's not just a bunch of tripe.

254 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:29:54am

re: #242 That's Mr. President to you

This pun thread is derailing the conversation about how wonderful I am. People are being cowed into talking about other things and those who want to talk about me aren't being herd. Let's get off of bo-vine and get back to O-vine, OK?

Look, we're just not into your brand of politics. You can't hide who and what you are--no matter how hard you try to cure your defects and skirt the issues.

255 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:29:56am

re: #250 raven1

OT:
Here's a hilarious send up of Glenn Beck.

[Video]

I didn't click; but I wonder whether one could parody the guy.

256 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:29:56am

re: #243 Guanxi88

But, if they're keeping Hawking under observation, doesn't that mean they're changing the outcome?

I sure hope they don't mistake him for a cat!

257 Kragar  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:30:00am

re: #249 Occasional Reader

Sorry, Mr. President. It's just that whenever you open your mouth, we start to think of things that come out of cows.

Milk?

258 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:30:21am

cow puns on LGF............classy................

259 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:30:33am

re: #240 jcm

Cows with guns....

Cows with axes

260 That's Mr. President to you  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:30:42am

re: #249 Occasional Reader

LOL

261 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:31:09am

re: #81 Killgore Trout

Need milk for the Tea Parties.

262 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:31:14am

re: #219 yochanan

the left is pushing for them and obama just caved into it listen what he said today

I did. What he said was a bone to the loony left. I do not think he and his AG will do any more than give lip service to it, for fear of wrecking his legislative agenda. But the danger is he gives the wacko left wing in congress a little rope and they might hang him with it. We will see. Let him go commit political suicide. Be my guest.

263 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:31:20am

re: #258 IslandLibertarian

cow puns on LGF............classy................

Look, if you're not a fan of these pun-churning threads, feel free to just skim over the worst of it.

264 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:31:21am

re: #256 Occasional Reader

I sure hope they don't mistake him for a cat!

and do what? "Fix" him?

265 JohnnyReb  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:31:39am

re: #244 yochanan

obama wants to set up a 'truth comm.' at least that is what it sounds like even the MSM at todays presser seems to get it since 4 different reports have asked about it.

If there is ever a "Truth" desk/bureau/department, etc. anything in the US Government, we are well and truly doomed. And I am not one to panic.

266 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:31:54am

re: #251 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We're just ribbing you

Another verbal slice and dice.

267 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:32:06am

re: #257 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Milk?

Toast

268 Raven1  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:32:13am

OT:
And here's one of Obama.

Youtube Video
269 That's Mr. President to you  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:32:40am

re: #254 calcajun

Look, we're just not into your brand of politics. You can't hide who and what you are--no matter how hard you try to cure your defects and skirt the issues.

Not to butcher your comment, but I read three separate recommendations in there. Are you giving me a tri-tip?

270 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:32:41am

re: #263 Guanxi88

Look, if you're not a fan of these pun-churning threads, feel free to just skim over the worst of it.

It's rare that puns get over done here

271 yochanan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:33:07am

re: #249 Occasional Reader

Sorry, Mr. President. It's just that whenever you open your mouth, we start to think of things that come out of COWSMALE BOVINES.

FTFY

272 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:33:10am

re: #263 Guanxi88

Look, if you're not a fan of these pun-churning threads, feel free to just skim over the worst of it.

Some of it is cheesy. But it's a cottage industry, and the cream rises to the top.

273 alegrias  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:33:12am

Have you already discussed McCain will have a challenger in Arizona's Republican primary, Chris Simcox the Minuteman border patrol founder? Any consensus? If McCain were to lose his Senate seat, he could still advise Obama as a private citizen, I suppose, like all the other ex-Senators do.

Just today I saw former Sen. Slade Gorton of Washington state in the streets of DC, so some guys never go back home.

274 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:33:13am

For those who remember Yiddish speakers saying "Nu?" (Sort of a generic question; pronounced "Noo?")
They crossbred a Gurnsey cow and a Holstein, getting a Goldstein.
Instead of saying "Moo", it goes "Nu?"

275 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:33:28am

re: #267 Russkilitlover

Toast

Milk and Cheese:

276 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:33:33am

re: #270 HoosierHoops

It's rare that puns get over done here

Yeah, but alot of lizards have a beef with all these bad puns showing up on the threads.

277 saberry0530  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:33:41am

It looks like we've reached the TIPPING point here!

278 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:33:49am

re: #270 HoosierHoops

It's rare that puns get over done here

Such is the nature of the web as a medium.

279 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:34:20am

re: #264 calcajun

and do what? "Fix" him?

Schrödinger's Cat

280 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:34:41am

Can't read through all the cow puns, they're all udder nonsense to me.

281 Guanxi88  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:34:56am

re: #280 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Can't read through all the cow puns, they're all udder nonsense to me.

moving right along.

282 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:35:04am

I have to ride herd on something here at work... later.

283 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:35:20am

re: #279 OldLineTexan

Schrödinger's Cat

The piano playing kid from Peanuts?
/

284 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:35:35am

re: #269 That's Mr. President to you

Not to butcher your comment, but I read three separate recommendations in there. Are you giving me a tri-tip?

You keep going round and round on the issues and you never seem to loin anything.

285 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:35:39am

re: #282 Occasional Reader

I have to ride herd on something here at work... later.

If you drag back in, try to make a point.

286 Ben Hur  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:35:41am

re: #280 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Can't read through all the cow puns, they're all udder nonsense to me.


Normally they drive me MAD, but I think these are very WELL DONE.

287 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:35:43am

And from an old 45 record I have with a parody of campaign coverage, the acceptance speech included:
I take the bull by the horns and cut right through to the meat of the issues. My cleaver cuts straight to the bone.
I've been accused of pork barrel politics, but I brought home the bacon. I've had all sorts of tripe swung at me that was called calf livers. But I have nailed my opponents to the steak.
And now, I have but one more thing to say in conclusion. You'll never get a bum steer from me, not as long as I am President
... of the United Confederation of Butchers.

288 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:35:48am

re: #281 Guanxi88

moving moooving right along.


FTFY ;~)

289 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:36:06am

re: #273 alegrias

Might want to read this (and some subsequent posts.)

290 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:36:27am

re: #280 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Can't read through all the cow puns, they're all udder nonsense to me.

We can turn it to revolutionary war battles...starting with the Battle of Cowpuns.....

291 Ben Hur  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:36:34am

Get it?

Mad?

MAD COW?

Work with me people.

292 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:36:41am

re: #283 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The piano playing kid from Peanuts?
/

HA!

No, not so much.

/

293 Raven1  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:37:17am

I'm watching Obama's press secretary lie his ass off on national TV. I know these leftists have no shame, but these a-holes ought to at least lie with a straight face.

294 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:37:44am

re: #273 alegrias

Have you already discussed McCain will have a challenger in Arizona's Republican primary, Chris Simcox the Minuteman border patrol founder? Any consensus? If McCain were to lose his Senate seat, he could still advise Obama as a private citizen, I suppose, like all the other ex-Senators do.

Just today I saw former Sen. Slade Gorton of Washington state in the streets of DC, so some guys never go back home.

The racial smears against the Minutemen, both imaginary and actual, will make it difficult for anyone associated with that organization. It's not like he's a Democrat that can be a Klan member and get elected.

295 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:39:04am

re: #293 Raven1

Between the 60-minutes 'punch drunk' interview and Hilllary's cackling while issuing a statement about piracy, it's hard to believe this administration takes anything serisously.

296 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:39:14am

re: #294 CyanSnowHawk

The racial smears against the Minutemen, both imaginary and actual, will make it difficult for anyone associated with that organization. It's not like he's a Democrat that can be a Klan member and get elected.

By the time the MSM get through with Simcox, their treatment of Palin will look like gushy articles over Michelle Obama's fit arms in comparison.

297 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:39:19am

re: #290 LGoPs

We can turn it to revolutionary war battles...starting with the Battle of Cowpuns.....

You could serve the steak with a nice snifter of Brandywine.

298 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:39:43am

re: #295 Fenway_Nation

Between the 60-minutes 'punch drunk' interview and Hilllary's cackling while issuing a statement about piracy, it's hard to believe this administration takes anything serisously.

Wednesday snacktails with Kobe beef is pretty serious, IMO.

299 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:40:01am

re: #285 OldLineTexan

If you drag back in, try to make a point.

Stick a fork in it, I think this is done.

300 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:40:33am

re: #292 OldLineTexan

HA!

No, not so much.

/

Physicists smoke too much weed.

301 yochanan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:40:34am

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

OBAMA FLIP FLOP

302 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:40:50am

re: #298 OldLineTexan

Wednesday snacktails with Kobe beef is pretty serious, IMO.

Lets leave that jerky out of it

303 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:41:06am

re: #301 yochanan

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

OBAMA FLIP FLOP

Yeah, it's not like the AG works for ... oh, wait.

304 alegrias  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:41:08am

re: #289 wrenchwench

Might want to read this (and some subsequent posts.)

* * *
Thank you!
I've been off job-hunting so missed lots here.

305 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:41:31am

re: #294 CyanSnowHawk

The racial smears against the Minutemen, both imaginary and actual, will make it difficult for anyone associated with that organization. It's not like he's a Democrat that can be a Klan member and get elected.


By "actual," do you mean "factual," in which case they are not smears?

306 opnion  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:41:54am

re: #293 Raven1

I'm watching Obama's press secretary lie his ass off on national TV. I know these leftists have no shame, but these a-holes ought to at least lie with a straight face.

THe Administration has changed course on this, why?
As of yesterday the Justice Dept Lawyers were not going to be the suject of any investigations , today they are. Might be trying to rally the left wing base.

307 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:41:54am

re: #295 Fenway_Nation

Between the 60-minutes 'punch drunk' interview and Hilllary's cackling while issuing a statement about piracy, it's hard to believe this administration takes anything serisously.

I think they're still in shock that 0bama won, despite his Marxist and anti-America views.
"You mean the voters are that dumb?!?"

308 debutaunt  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:42:33am

re: #247 sattv4u2

I want to take these puns and hide because I can't out flank you guys on it

You're all aloin.

309 Ben Hur  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:42:56am

re: #300 Leonidas Hoplite

Physicists smoke too much weed.

Impossible.

310 MJ  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:44:04am

Just how antisemitic are the British political class?

Mashaal to address British parliament


Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal is set to address a meeting of MPs and peers in the British parliament via a videoconference from Damascus on Wednesday.
Organized by independent MP Clare Short, a former Labour MP and government minister, and under the auspices of Lord John Alderdice, a Liberal Democrat peer, the meeting is set to discuss the notion that there can be no peace in the Middle East without talking to the Islamist organization...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

311 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:44:17am

re: #307 Kosh's Shadow

I think they're still in shock that 0bama won, despite his Marxist and anti-America views.
"You mean the voters are that dumb?!?"

That would explain them suddenly deciding to slash the budget by 1/35,000th.....

312 JohnnyReb  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:44:20am

re: #301 yochanan

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

OBAMA FLIP FLOP

You know in the remote possibility that this goes through and someone actually gets prosecuted and found guilty of something, we will never ever have anyone advise anyone on anything in government service in the future.

Just think about it, if you make any recommendation you could potentially be charged with some crime in the future. Very chilling.

313 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:44:52am

"Instead of answering yes or no, let me obfuscate" =Gibbs

314 Raven1  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:44:54am

re: #306 opnion

I agree, they are probably trying to keep their lunatic base happy. Our country does not need the Obama administration persecuting the Bush administration for any "torture crimes".

315 yochanan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:45:04am

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT
it will make us look like a banana republic were the winners arrest the losers.

316 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:45:12am
317 doppelganglander  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:45:32am

re: #276 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, but alot of lizards have a beef with all these bad puns showing up on the threads.

I'm just tired of everyone trying to blame au Jus.

318 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:45:35am

re: #291 Ben Hur

Get it?

Mad?

MAD COW?

Work with me people.

Best BHO impersonation of the day.

319 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:45:59am

re: #305 wrenchwench

By "actual," do you mean "factual," in which case they are not smears?

In the eyes of the MSM, it's all fact.

You can make a smear out of fact.

Examples:

Fact:
I am against illegal immigration. The borders of the US should be secured against illegal and unmonitored entry to guard against terrorism and drug trafficking.

Smear:
OldLineTexan is a racist who favors oppressing undocumented workers because they are overwhelmingly Mexican. The US border is a vital commercial area, and we must preserve good relations with our neighbors. Drug trafficking exists, but OldLineTexan conflates it with terrorism to push his radical, racist viewpoint.

320 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:46:00am

re: #312 JohnnyReb

You know in the remote possibility that this goes through and someone actually gets prosecuted and found guilty of something, we will never ever have anyone advise anyone on anything in government service in the future.

Just think about it, if you make any recommendation you could potentially be charged with some crime in the future. Very chilling.

I am wondering if this may prompt a response from President Bush, in defense of his peeps?

321 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:46:02am

re: #310 MJ

Just how antisemitic are the British political class?

Mashaal to address British parliament

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

How anti-semitic? Hum..well how many Jews got into Britain before WW2 broke out? And how easy did they make it for those left to get into Eretz Yisrael after WW2?

322 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:46:49am

re: #297 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You could serve the steak with a nice snifter of Brandywine.

If not we'd been down in the Monmouth.

323 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:46:52am

re: #312 JohnnyReb

You know in the remote possibility that this goes through and someone actually gets prosecuted and found guilty of something, we will never ever have anyone advise anyone on anything in government service in the future.

Just think about it, if you make any recommendation you could potentially be charged with some crime in the future. Very chilling.

I hope he does it. It will paralyze his government for the next 3 3/4 years. Go for it pal!

324 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:47:29am
325 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:47:46am

re: #324 taxfreekiller

careful of Chris Simcox

100% agreed

326 alegrias  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:47:49am

re: #310 MJ

Just how antisemitic are the British political class?

Mashaal to address British parliament

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

* * * *
It's repugnant but by videoconference--at least not in person. Therefore you'll have no gangsta handshakes for posterity on the record.

327 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:48:43am

re: #312 JohnnyReb

You know in the remote possibility that this goes through and someone actually gets prosecuted and found guilty of something, we will never ever have anyone advise anyone on anything in government service in the future.

Just think about it, if you make any recommendation you could potentially be charged with some crime in the future. Very chilling.


It seems to this layman that in order for there to be a legal basis for charges concerning aiding and abetting in torture, there would have to have been a clear legal standard describing torture at the time the original legal opinions were offered.

Wasn't the lack of such a standard the reason for needing legal opnions in the first place?

328 opnion  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:48:44am

re: #312 JohnnyReb

You know in the remote possibility that this goes through and someone actually gets prosecuted and found guilty of something, we will never ever have anyone advise anyone on anything in government service in the future.

Just think about it, if you make any recommendation you could potentially be charged with some crime in the future. Very chilling.

As I understand this, justice department lawyers render considered opinions. There were probably some conflicting opnions, but that is just what they are, opnions.
The decision to act does not belong to a lawyer.
Sit in a law school class & you will take the same case & argue it one way & then in the alternative.

329 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:49:13am

re: #326 alegrias

* * * *
It's repugnant but by videoconference--at least not in person. Therefore you'll have no gangsta handshakes for posterity on the record.

I hope someone will be recording it. Too bad we probably won't know which lines got the most applause.

330 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:49:29am

re: #305 wrenchwench

By "actual," do you mean "factual," in which case they are not smears?

Yes. That would have been the appropriate word to use there.

331 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:49:39am

re: #319 OldLineTexan

In the eyes of the MSM, it's all fact.

You can make a smear out of fact.

Examples:

Fact:
I am against illegal immigration. The borders of the US should be secured against illegal and unmonitored entry to guard against terrorism and drug trafficking.

Smear:
OldLineTexan is a racist who favors oppressing undocumented workers because they are overwhelmingly Mexican. The US border is a vital commercial area, and we must preserve good relations with our neighbors. Drug trafficking exists, but OldLineTexan conflates it with terrorism to push his radical, racist viewpoint.

I certainly know what you mean. But I am not concerned at the moment about the "eyes of the MSM." I am concerned that we maintain a focus on the importance of border security, without throwing our lot in with racists. There are many fine Americans of all races who want secure borders. Let's work with the ones who want them for security, not for "purity."

332 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:49:46am

How can you prosecute anyone for giving their opinions?

333 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:49:49am

re: #329 Kosh's Shadow

I hope someone will be recording it. Too bad we probably won't know which lines got the most applause.

Apparently virtual bullshit is green.

334 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:49:54am

re: #297 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You could serve the steak with a nice snifter of Brandywine.

I was thinking more along the lines of a peanut butter sandwhich using..................
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Wait for it..........
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Concord jelly

335 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:50:24am

re: #332 Nevergiveup

How can you prosecute anyone for giving their opinions?

I'd tell you what I think, but I don;'t want to be prosecuted

336 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:50:28am

re: #263 Guanxi88

Look, if you're not a fan of these pun-churning threads, feel free to just skim over the worst of it.

I try, but every time I hit "new comments" I keep stepping in it............

337 JohnnyReb  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:50:55am

re: #323 Nevergiveup

I hope he does it. It will paralyze his government for the next 3 3/4 years. Go for it pal!

It won't happen, SCOTUS will step in quick. If they don't we are in for an extremely rough and quick ride to 4th world status as our federal government grinds to a halt out of fear. Not a single person will write anything, not even a memo for the record if they think they could be prosecuted later in life.

338 Ben Hur  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:51:09am

OK Facebook Lizards. Click on the following link and then click "Report Page" on the bottom left.

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

339 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:51:13am

re: #331 wrenchwench

I agree, and I also agree with tfk that Simcox is to be avoided as a Republican candidate (if I read him correctly).

If not for real reasons, then for reasons of the collateral damage it will make possible.

340 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:51:38am

re: #334 LGoPs

This is all stuff you wouldn't find at some frathouse Saratoga party.

341 opnion  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:51:41am

re: #314 Raven1

I agree, they are probably trying to keep their lunatic base happy. Our country does not need the Obama administration persecuting the Bush administration for any "torture crimes".

It can't really be useful except as a contiuation of the smears inh the campaign.
When these opnions were formulated, most Americns were just scared & wanted the government to keep them safe.
Democrat leaders knew all about the interrogation techniques & this is more than a little hypocritical.

342 doppelganglander  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:51:53am

re: #331 wrenchwench

Let's work with the ones who want them for security, not for "purity."

That's a spiffy slogan you've got there.

343 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:51:56am

re: #334 LGoPs

I went there once. Nice, small place. Loads of war monuments, and a really old graveyard by the Welch's place.

344 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:51:57am

re: #335 sattv4u2

I'd tell you what I think, but I don;'t want to be prosecuted

Hate to break it ya pal, but we got enough on record here of what you have said ( and me to ) to put us both away for the rest of our natural lives and fifty years after that!

345 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:52:01am

"The President wont do this alone...he will rely on everyone ganging up on Israel" =Gibbs

346 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:52:20am

forgot the sarc, sorry

347 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:52:42am

re: #112 Jimmah

Is this just a way to scam money?
[Link: irsvote.com...]

Joe the Plumber: Make your 99 cent call to stop tax forever!

It's the Fair Taxers! AAAAAARRRRGGGHHHH!

348 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:52:48am

re: #337 JohnnyReb

It won't happen, SCOTUS will step in quick. If they don't we are in for an extremely rough and quick ride to 4th world status as our federal government grinds to a halt out of fear. Not a single person will write anything, not even a memo for the record if they think they could be prosecuted later in life.

Considering where Obama wants to take this country, I might settle for that instead?

349 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:52:57am
350 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:53:16am

re: #285 OldLineTexan

If you drag back in, try to make a point.

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You mean like this........

351 doppelganglander  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:54:02am

re: #338 Ben Hur

OK Facebook Lizards. Click on the following link and then click "Report Page" on the bottom left.

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

Done. Thanks for the heads up. Funny how so many "fans" of that page have names like Raseem and Yussuf.

352 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:54:07am

re: #343 OldLineTexan

I went there once. Nice, small place. Loads of war monuments, and a really old graveyard by the Welch's place.

LOL......
*smuckering*

353 jcm  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:54:22am

re: #332 Nevergiveup

How can you prosecute anyone for giving their opinions?

What happen to the "reasonable" standard?

Cops, firefighters are judged on that standard, what would a similar person in a similar position do. Not what public perception is, not what the political winds are. Was the person acting with the current law in a reasonable manner according to their peers.

The "reasonable" standard is going out the window. It's far reaching and very dangerous on many levels.

354 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:54:46am

re: #350 LGoPs

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You mean like this........

Was cowboy joke. Drag, point ... get it? Is funny, yes?

/

355 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:55:19am

re: #338 Ben Hur

OK Facebook Lizards. Click on the following link and then click "Report Page" on the bottom left.

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

I reported it. It's got 121,065 fans? Gah!

356 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:55:49am

re: #344 Nevergiveup

Hate to break it ya pal, but we got enough on record here of what you have said ( and me to ) to put us both away for the rest of our natural lives and fifty years after that!

I have cut a wide swath of UN PCism in my 55 years on this planet

357 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:55:52am

re: #351 doppelganglander

Done. Thanks for the heads up. Funny how so many "fans" of that page have names like Raseem and Yussuf.

Target-rich community.

358 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:56:05am

re: #354 OldLineTexan

Was cowboy joke. Drag, point ... get it? Is funny, yes?

/

Soright. Eezokay......

359 MJ  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:57:27am

re: #326 alegrias

* * * *
It's repugnant but by videoconference--at least not in person. Therefore you'll have no gangsta handshakes for posterity on the record.

It's only by video-conference because Mashaal knows he'd be a dead man the moment he left Syria. The Israelis tried to kill him once but he was saved King Hussein and Hillary Clinton's husband.
If anyone is owed an apology by the US, it's Israel because of it's policy of keeping Hamas alive and well. The US kept alive Mashaal and Rice/Bush gave it all the legitimacy it needed when they allowed it to participate in elections.

360 nikis-knight  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:57:29am

re: #173 Occasional Reader

Whatever the theological solidity or lack thereof the phrasing may have, it's of course echoing the Prayer of St. Francis.

(By the way, imagine the uproar if Bush had suggested in any way that he was, or should be, "an instrument of God's will".)

You don't have to imagine, Sarah Palin said something very similar regarding our military.

361 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:58:01am

re: #338 Ben Hur

Done ,, but from the "choices" of why it can be reported I doubt it will be taken down

Stupidity and bigotry are protected "free speech', unfortunately

362 nikis-knight  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:58:35am

re: #194 That's Mr. President to you

It is going well. We are looking at ways to cut back expenditures at the White House.

For instance, we found a new supplier of Kobe beef, so we will be spending $110 per pound instead of $125. That will work out to a savings of $2 million in the next 9 months.


That's a load of bull!

363 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:59:07am

re: #356 sattv4u2

I have cut a wide swath of UN PCism in my 55 years on this planet

So many people really know how I think and how I have expressed it at times, I could never run for office.

364 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:59:16am

re: #362 nikis-knight

That's a load of bull!

They should swtich to Nazi cows. Not as tasty, but they follow orders better

365 Raven1  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:59:16am

re: #351 doppelganglander

Wow, Their hate runs deep. It must suck to be them.

366 opnion  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:59:18am

Just to state the obvious, it is the paper trail left by the Justice Dept lawyers that is where the investigation would go.
I find it ironic that Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review & there is no paper trail, no opnion about anything. Either he never submitted an article, which is not likely or things just got misplaced.

367 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:59:23am

re: #338 Ben Hur

OK Facebook Lizards. Click on the following link and then click "Report Page" on the bottom left.

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

Done

368 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:59:52am

re: #139 avanti

Someone removed the prayer and gave it to the press, but noting of note in the prayer. The uproar was over taking and publishing the prayer.

"Lord—Protect my family and me. Forgive me my sins, and help me guard against pride and despair. Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will."

Obama's a tool, not an instrument.

369 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:59:52am

re: #363 Nevergiveup

So many people really know how I think and how I have expressed it at times, I could never run for office.

Oh hell,, I burned that bridge in my mid teens

370 Wishing  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:59:54am

re: #367 CyanSnowHawk

Done

Done as well

371 Raven1  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:00:52pm

re: #366 opnion

He was 'present'

372 alegrias  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:01:08pm

re: #359 MJ

It's only by video-conference because Mashaal knows he'd be a dead man the moment he left Syria. The Israelis tried to kill him once but he was saved King Hussein and Hillary Clinton's husband.
If anyone is owed an apology by the US, it's Israel because of it's policy of keeping Hamas alive and well. The US kept alive Mashaal and Rice/Bush gave it all the legitimacy it needed when they allowed it to participate in elections.

* * * *
Thanks for explaining. I am sorry my taxdollars may have gone to Hamas, certainly against my wishes.

I'm all for Israel to doing whatever it deems necessary.

It infuriates me the current US administration may go further in funding Hamas than the previous administration did.

373 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:01:15pm

re: #369 sattv4u2

Oh hell,, I burned that bridge in my mid teens

Like Charles Barkley said, "there's not skeletons in my closet, there's an entire graveyard"

374 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:01:24pm

re: #366 opnion

Just to state the obvious, it is the paper trail left by the Justice Dept lawyers that is where the investigation would go.
I find it ironic that Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review & there is no paper trail, no opnion about anything. Either he never submitted an article, which is not likely or things just got misplaced.

You can't attack a record that he has hidden you can't find.

375 doppelganglander  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:01:25pm

re: #357 Ward Cleaver

Target-rich community.

I play one of those Facebook games where you need to increase your members into the hundreds to have a shot at advancing in the game. The only way to do it is to join groups devoted to gaining members and "friending" total strangers who will join your group, and you join theirs. I am really uncomfortable with some of the people who join my group. Luckily, you can remove them as friends while keeping them in your group. I try to thin the herd frequently.

376 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:01:47pm

re: #367 CyanSnowHawk

Done

did you see the fans? 121,000!

378 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:02:37pm
379 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:02:54pm

re: #375 doppelganglander

I play one of those Facebook games where you need to increase your members into the hundreds to have a shot at advancing in the game. The only way to do it is to join groups devoted to gaining members and "friending" total strangers who will join your group, and you join theirs. I am really uncomfortable with some of the people who join my group. Luckily, you can remove them as friends while keeping them in your group. I try to thin the herd frequently.

All the ones my friends have joined so far look pretty lame.

380 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:03:33pm

re: #376 Desert Dog

did you see the fans? 121,000!

I'm just glad it's not 100 x's that

381 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:04:01pm

re: #378 Iron Fist

Not really a surprise. Obama's broad goals seem to be intended to turn America into a Third World nation, with no more authourity or stature in the world than, say, Belize. Prosecuting the previous administration members for doing their job would certainly be a big step towards making us Third World. I Wonder if he bounced the Idea off his new bestest buddy Hugo Chavez?

At best, we'll be another Argentina.

382 alegrias  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:04:33pm

re: #377 Occasional Reader

Driving by...

Semi-flying pig moment? CNN Senior Political Analyst Gloria Borger asks Obama "where's the outrage?" regarding the chummy photo ops with Chavez, and bland response to Ahamadinejad's hateful ranting.

* * * * *
Yes, OR, but Gloria Borger wasn't always a CNN employee, didn't she work for the less leftist US News & World Report?

383 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:04:52pm

re: #380 sattv4u2

I'm just glad it's not 100 x's that

Only because most of those swine don't own computers.

384 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:05:32pm

re: #322 calcajun

If not we'd been down in the Monmouth.

I'm trying to remember which Revolutionary War battle reenactment I went to last year - I think it was Monmouth, but I'm not sure. I sure hope I saved the brochure!

385 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:05:51pm

re: #382 alegrias

* * * * *
Yes, OR, but Gloria Borger wasn't always a CNN employee, didn't she work for the less leftist US News & World Report?

I used to think she was kind of cute (20 years ago), for a lefty.

386 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:05:55pm

re: #384 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm trying to remember which Revolutionary War battle reenactment I went to last year - I think it was Monmouth, but I'm not sure. I sure hope I saved the brochure!

Ticonderoga is nice

387 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:06:16pm

re: #384 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm trying to remember which Revolutionary War battle reenactment I went to last year - I think it was Monmouth, but I'm not sure. I sure hope I saved the brochure!

Valley Forge too....watch out for all the little deer that run amok though

388 doppelganglander  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:06:35pm

re: #379 Ward Cleaver

All the ones my friends have joined so far look pretty lame.

That's why most of my team members are strangers. I wouldn't inflict it on my real friends, except the few who really want to play. :)

If you want to be Facebook friends, click my nic. There are several of us Lizards that hang out there. I promise I won't invite you to my game.

389 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:06:37pm

re: #369 sattv4u2

Oh hell,, I burned that bridge in my mid teens

I was a firebug as a teen, too.
%P%

390 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:07:17pm

re: #382 alegrias

* * * * *
Yes, OR, but Gloria Borger wasn't always a CNN employee, didn't she work for the less leftist US News & World Report?

Doesn't matter. It was still approved by an editor and/ or producer

391 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:07:45pm

re: #386 Desert Dog

Ticonderoga is nice

Too far of a drive for me - 90 minutes is my limit. It was a NJ battle, I just don't remember which & I'd hate to go visit it again this year, when I could tour a different battle field.

392 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:07:58pm

re: #387 Desert Dog

Valley Forge too....watch out for all the little deer that run amok though

Gettysburg is great.
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What? I went to public skool. Give me a break.

393 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:08:49pm

re: #386 Desert Dog

Ticonderoga is nice

Is that where they make all those pencils?

/

394 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:09:18pm

re: #381 Ward Cleaver

At best, we'll be another Argentina.

Or Venezuela.

395 opnion  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:09:46pm

re: #374 Ward Cleaver

You can't attack a record that he has hidden you can't find.

just so.

396 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:09:46pm

re: #391 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It was a NJ battle

Indeed, the American and British forces were battling over who would get New Jersey. We lost, as you can see.

397 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:10:33pm

I think Obama just made a major mistake today. He will NOT be able to control it.

398 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:10:37pm

re: #394 Kosh's Shadow

re: #381 Ward Cleaver

At best, we'll be another Argentina.

Or Venezuela.

Okay, I am seeing an upside here. (Thinking of the chicks)

399 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:10:59pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Michelle Malkin and Ed Morisey are hyperventilating over another DHS scandal. Sad.

I saw it. Another pathetic, overblown case of rabies built on top of nothing at all.

This morning, Malkin was heaping grief on some a-hole announcer who took it upon himself to use foul language describing some beauty contestant who had come out against homosexual marriage. Crude and uncalled for, to be sure; but difficult to criticize when you've just spent a week cheering on your own readers over their misbehavior at the tea parties where they booed and air-horned an invited speaker off the stage. Pot. Kettle. Etcetera.

400 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:11:04pm

re: #381 Ward Cleaver

At best, we'll be another Argentina.

A chile would run through the land.

401 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:11:07pm

re: #392 ConservatismNow!

Gettysburg is great.
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What? I went to public skool. Give me a break.

Gettysburg is my favorite, been there 4x

402 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:12:15pm

re: #397 Nevergiveup

I think Obama just made a major mistake today. He will NOT be able to control it.

What. I just got here. Summary?

403 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:12:23pm

re: #394 Kosh's Shadow

Or Venezuela.

At least we'd have some hot babes.

/right, o.r.?

404 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:12:39pm

re: #401 Desert Dog

Gettysburg is my favorite, been there 4x

I've also been to Stone Mountain in Georgia. Wow. That's an amazing place. Not as sobering as Gettysburg, but the rock carving is cool.

405 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:12:41pm

re: #400 LGoPs

A chile would run through the land.

Amazona let that one go

406 doppelganglander  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:12:45pm

re: #384 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm trying to remember which Revolutionary War battle reenactment I went to last year - I think it was Monmouth, but I'm not sure. I sure hope I saved the brochure!

That sounds like fun. Have you ever gone to a Civil War re-enactment? There's a book about re-enactors called Confederates in the Attic that is hilarious, fascinating, and a little frightening. Bonus hilarity: the author, Tony Horowitz, is Jewish. Some of the folks he meets do not have a lot of experience with Jews. He's really fair towards his subjects and does not make fun of them or look down on them. Excellent read.

407 albusteve  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:13:05pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

What. I just got here. Summary?

Kaopectate....bowels

408 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:13:12pm

re: #397 Nevergiveup

I think Obama just made a major mistake today. He will NOT be able to control it.

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout?

/willis

409 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:13:29pm

re: #403 Ward Cleaver

At least we'd have some hot babes.

/right, o.r.?

Are you saying we don't right now? For shame!

410 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:13:42pm

re: #334 LGoPs

I was thinking more along the lines of a peanut butter sandwhich using..................
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Wait for it..........
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Concord jelly

And Oswego with more puns!

411 reine.de.tout  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:13:47pm

re: #377 Occasional Reader

Driving by...

Semi-flying pig moment? CNN Senior Political Analyst Gloria Borger asks Obama "where's the outrage?" regarding the chummy photo ops with Chavez, and bland response to Ahamadinejad's hateful ranting.

Eugene Robinson, op-ed editorialist at the Washington Post, had a similar view:

It's hard to argue with the results thus far from President Obama's "no drama" approach to campaigning and governing, but I think he should learn to chew a little scenery when the occasion demands. Theatricality is one of the weapons in any leader's arsenal, and a well-timed glower or growl can have more impact than a sheaf of position papers.
. . .
Chávez can be charming. But when Obama shook the man's hand, he should have telegraphed clearly, through posture, expression and language, that he was not amused. Chávez's gift of the book was meant to affront, not to enlighten, and I would have advised Obama to reciprocate in kind.
412 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:13:54pm

re: #404 ConservatismNow!

I've also been to Stone Mountain in Georgia. Wow. That's an amazing place. Not as sobering as Gettysburg, but the rock carving is cool.

And the skyride is pretty cool.

413 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:13:58pm

re: #404 ConservatismNow!

I've also been to Stone Mountain in Georgia. Wow. That's an amazing place. Not as sobering as Gettysburg, but the rock carving is cool.

I live 20 minutes from there. When was the last time you went? They've added a lot of attractions in the last 3 years

(the people that run Dollywood are running it now)

414 doppelganglander  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:14:10pm

re: #404 ConservatismNow!

I've also been to Stone Mountain in Georgia. Wow. That's an amazing place. Not as sobering as Gettysburg, but the rock carving is cool.

Did you stay for the laser show? The best part is when they make the carved horses "gallop."

415 albusteve  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:14:14pm

re: #401 Desert Dog

Gettysburg is my favorite, been there 4x

3x for me....Petersburg is pretty cool...a huge loop through the stunning VA countryside

416 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:14:24pm

re: #404 ConservatismNow!

I've also been to Stone Mountain in Georgia. Wow. That's an amazing place. Not as sobering as Gettysburg, but the rock carving is cool.

Stone Mountain is impressive, but a little... weird.

(It's no coincidence that the KKK like to hold rallies there.)

417 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:14:31pm

re: #398 Occasional Reader

Okay, I am seeing an upside here. (Thinking of the chicks)

Yeah, there's definitely an upside. Very much an upside.

418 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:14:37pm

re: #355 Ward Cleaver

I reported it. It's got 121,065 fans? Gah!

I don't have Facebook access. What is the gist?

419 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:14:48pm

Looks like Obama has released some information regarding the benefits of waterboarding....

KSM and Flying Planes into buildings in L.A.

420 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:14:50pm

re: #409 ConservatismNow!

Are you saying we don't right now? For shame!

Just not Venezuelan babes.

/beauty pageant types

421 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:15:15pm

re: #418 Russkilitlover

I don't have Facebook access. What is the gist?

it's called HATE ISRAEL
you do thr math

422 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:15:32pm

re: #411 reine.de.tout

Chávez's gift of the book was meant to affront, not to enlighten

WOW! A WaPo editorialist understood that?!

423 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:15:47pm

re: #405 sattv4u2

Amazona let that one go

I should have Perused the comment more.

424 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:16:03pm

re: #413 sattv4u2

re: #414 doppelganglander

re: #412 Ward Cleaver

Ward, did not ride the sky ride

sattv4u2 I have not been in more than 10 years. I went with my granddad when he lived in Georgia.

Doppelganglander, I did stay for the laser show. Very impressive!

425 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:16:03pm

re: #416 Occasional Reader

Stone Mountain is impressive, but a little... weird.

(It's no coincidence that the KKK like to hold rallies there.)

That was a long Long LONG time ago

426 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:16:06pm

re: #306 opnion

THe Administration has changed course on this, why?
As of yesterday the Justice Dept Lawyers were not going to be the suject of any investigations , today they are. Might be trying to rally the left wing base.

Late yesterday, Cheney said he was going to seek the declassification of more memos, this time showing that various techniques that were used produced tangible results.

I think Obama's statement today is a slap at Cheney.

427 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:16:08pm

re: #401 Desert Dog

Gettysburg is my favorite, been there 4x

I'm waiting for the new museum to be completed before I visit again.

428 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:16:12pm

re: #418 Russkilitlover

I don't have Facebook access. What is the gist?

Just some bored RoPers.

429 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:16:27pm

re: #405 sattv4u2

Amazona let that one go

I heard a rumor that ur uguay. I thought you were straight?
/ *just kidding*
:)

430 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:16:36pm

re: #424 ConservatismNow!

re: #414 doppelganglander

re: #412 Ward Cleaver

Ward, did not ride the sky ride

sattv4u2 I have not been in more than 10 years. I went with my granddad when he lived in Georgia.

Doppelganglander, I did stay for the laser show. Very impressive!

It was over 30 years ago for me.

431 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:17:23pm

re: #417 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yeah, there's definitely an upside. Very much an upside.

For the Argentine side, do yourself a favor and google "Pampita".

432 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:17:26pm

re: #429 LGoPs

I heard a rumor that ur uguay. I thought you were straight?
/ *just kidding*
:)

peru told you that?

NOT that there's anything wrong ,,,,,,,,,,,

433 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:17:36pm

re: #401 Desert Dog

I will make it there one day. But a friend of mine walked from Seminary Ridge across the field to Cemetery Ridge--asking himself what the hell was Marse Robert thinking.

He is also of the opinion that with better battlefield communications, The ANV would have prevailed on the third day. (not likely says I)

434 ConservatismNow!  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:17:55pm

re: #429 LGoPs

I heard a rumor that ur uguay. I thought you were straight?
/ *just kidding*
:)

Yeah they live together. A Para guay.

435 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:18:02pm

re: #430 Ward Cleaver

It was over 30 years ago for me.

Ok, did you stay for the swinging flashlights show where they made the horses look like they were... well... lit?

436 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:18:26pm

re: #432 sattv4u2

peru told you that?

NOT that there's anything wrong ,,,,,,,,,,,

Nah. heard it from a par a guay's......
/

437 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:18:41pm

re: #435 Walter L. Newton

Ok, did you stay for the swinging flashlights show where they made the horses look like they were... well... lit?


the horses were DRUNK!?!?!

438 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:18:49pm

re: #434 ConservatismNow!

I'd rather live in Oblivia.

439 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:18:52pm

re: #434 ConservatismNow!

Yeah they live together. A Para guay.

Damn. beat me again....
:)

440 albusteve  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:18:55pm

re: #433 calcajun

I will make it there one day. But a friend of mine walked from Seminary Ridge across the field to Cemetery Ridge--asking himself what the hell was Marse Robert thinking.

He is also of the opinion that with better battlefield communications, The ANV would have prevailed on the third day. (not likely says I)

not artillery for sure

441 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:18:57pm

re: #404 ConservatismNow!

I've also been to Stone Mountain in Georgia. Wow. That's an amazing place. Not as sobering as Gettysburg, but the rock carving is cool.

Different area, different war, but Little Big Horn is another great stop if you're out that way.

442 turn  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:19:15pm

re: #23 OldLineTexan

Here's some balance for your world.

It's pretty close to breathless.

gawd, and we have to put up with at least four more years of the shit. Good news about Hawking. That guy is amazing, turn can't add anything higher than 10 without taking his shoes off and this guy does celestial mechanics and quantum mechanics in his head. wow

443 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:20:12pm

re: #441 SixDegrees

Different area, different war, but Little Big Horn is another great stop if you're out that way.

Another exhibit in the museum of "What the Hell Were You Thinking?"

444 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:20:16pm

re: #442 turn

gawd, and we have to put up with at least four more years of the shit...

Yea, but can she cook?

445 albusteve  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:20:32pm

re: #441 SixDegrees

Different area, different war, but Little Big Horn is another great stop if you're out that way.

awsome place...easily one of favorites

446 albusteve  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:21:00pm

re: #443 calcajun

Another exhibit in the museum of "What the Hell Were You Thinking?"

not artillery for sure

447 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:21:09pm

re: #441 SixDegrees

Different area, different war, but Little Big Horn is another great stop if you're out that way.

The Command and General Staff College at Ft Leavenworth used to conduct staff rides (on horseback) to the battlefield. I would have given my right arm to go on one of those.

448 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:21:39pm

re: #435 Walter L. Newton

Ok, did you stay for the swinging flashlights show where they made the horses look like they were... well... lit?

Huh?

I was just there during the day. Drive out there, take the skyride, walk around on top of the rock for something like 30 minutes, ride back down.

449 sattv4u2  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:21:42pm

re: #447 LGoPs

The Command and General Staff College at Ft Leavenworth used to conduct staff rides (on horseback) to the battlefield. I would have given my right arm to go on one of those.

Who the hell would want your right arm!?!?!?!

450 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:21:49pm

re: #446 albusteve

not artillery for sure

I think you need to limber up some before responding.

451 turn  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:21:50pm

re: #444 Walter L. Newton

Yea, but can she cook?

Hell I don't know, I couldn't make it past the first couple of paragraphs of that article. sickening adulation. Hey walter, how's the weather there?

452 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:22:12pm

re: #446 albusteve

not artillery for sure

Steve, I owe you a beer. I got called into work and could not make San Jacinto Day this year.

So happy San Jacinto Day, anyway.

453 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:22:12pm

re: #419 eschew_obfuscation

Looks like Obama has released some information regarding the benefits of waterboarding....

KSM and Flying Planes into buildings in L.A.

Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, “Soon, you will know.”

Any government official in the post-9/11 world hearing this smarmy warning would be beyone derelict in his/her duty to not beat the snot out of this dirtbag for further information. Imagine if LA was attacked, and it came out that while in custody we had this warning and did nothing.

454 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:22:23pm
455 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:22:36pm

re: #449 sattv4u2

Who the hell would want your right arm!?!?!?!

A Second Amendment groupie.....?

456 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:22:37pm

re: #449 sattv4u2

Who the hell would want your right arm!?!?!?!

Stonewall Jackson? Or did he need a new left?

457 alegrias  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:22:37pm

re: #411 reine.de.tout

* * * *
Eugene Robinson's criticisms are like lashes with wet noodles. If he cared about civil liberties and poor people, Robinson would decry any US President gladhanding a thug with whom we have no diplomatic relations, much accepting from a thug, toxic propaganda as a "gift" instead of as a slap against US' enlightenment & individual liberty.

458 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:22:55pm

re: #441 SixDegrees

Different area, different war, but Little Big Horn is another great stop if you're out that way.

A friend of mine went there years ago, and said that the guides warned people to be on the lookout for rattlesnakes.

459 Ben Hur  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:23:02pm

re: #418 Russkilitlover

I don't have Facebook access. What is the gist?

Group called, "HATE ISRAEL."

You know, the run of the mill Arabs out of Arabia and living (voluntarily, I might add) in Europe using 21st century tools to vent his frustration and envy that arises when his anti-Semitic, Islamic, pan-Arabism supremacist education doesn't jibe with the one Jewish State with 6 million people accomplishing more in 65 years than all 52 Islamic states have accomplished in 2000 years.

The usual.

460 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:23:07pm

re: #450 calcajun

I think you need to limber up some before responding.

Get off his caiss(on).

461 albusteve  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:23:09pm

re: #452 OldLineTexan

Steve, I owe you a beer. I got called into work and could not make San Jacinto Day this year.

So happy San Jacinto Day, anyway.

not arttil....whoops...
thanks anyway bro

462 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:24:10pm

re: #433 calcajun

I will make it there one day. But a friend of mine walked from Seminary Ridge across the field to Cemetery Ridge--asking himself what the hell was Marse Robert thinking.

He is also of the opinion that with better battlefield communications, The ANV would have prevailed on the third day. (not likely says I)

Both sides committed serious errors. The second day was the key. The Rebs could not outflank them from Little Round Top. They had two choices after that, pullback and retreat, or full on frontal attack. Amazing Lee chose the former. Especially since his forces were usually the ones cutting down the Union from defensive positions in previous battles.

463 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:24:11pm

re: #460 OldLineTexan

Get off his caiss(on).

Quit Parrot-ting other people's puns.

464 Russkilitlover  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:24:24pm

re: #428 Ward Cleaver

Just some bored RoPers.

That's kind of the whole problem with RoPers, isn't it. The are bored shitless and boxed in by their religion with no industry, no production, no value added talents to contribute. That really sums up their whole angst.

465 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:24:29pm

re: #460 OldLineTexan

Get off his caiss(on).

Sorry but you mortared that pun........

466 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:24:40pm

re: #431 Occasional Reader

For the Argentine side, do yourself a favor and google "Pampita".

Pretty, but I like Norkis better. If someone were to fix you up with a girl named "Norkis," would you ever think that she'd look like this?

467 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:25:16pm

re: #453 Russkilitlover

Any government official in the post-9/11 world hearing this smarmy warning would be beyone derelict in his/her duty to not beat the snot out of this dirtbag for further information. Imagine if LA was attacked, and it came out that while in custody we had this warning and did nothing.

Man, that Babu's really gone downhill since he had to close his restaurant in NYC.

/seinfeld

468 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:25:44pm

re: #464 Russkilitlover

That's kind of the whole problem with RoPers, isn't it. The are bored shitless and boxed in by their religion with no industry, no production, no value added talents to contribute. That really sums up their whole angst.

There's sand everywhere. You can't drink or eat bacon. The women are covered from head to toe in potato sacks. I'd be pissed, too.

469 alegrias  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:26:16pm

re: #433 calcajun

I will make it there one day. But a friend of mine walked from Seminary Ridge across the field to Cemetery Ridge--asking himself what the hell was Marse Robert thinking.

He is also of the opinion that with better battlefield communications, The ANV would have prevailed on the third day. (not likely says I)

* * * *
Those sunken roads were not visible from below, and perhaps hadn't been scouted by the losing side.

It was inviting a complete slaughter. Very sad for all concerned. And hot as hell if you've ever been there in July.

470 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:26:39pm
471 turn  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:26:42pm

re: #465 LGoPs

Sorry but you mortared that pun........

Talking about puns, the ones on those bazooka wrappers are pretty corny.

472 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:26:56pm

re: #467 Ward Cleaver

Man, that Babu's really gone downhill since he had to close his restaurant in NYC.

/seinfeld

"Mocking, mocking, all the time, mocking!"

473 Nevergiveup  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:27:04pm

re: #402 Walter L. Newton

What. I just got here. Summary?

He is talking like he will let the Attorney General Prosecute Lawyers in the Bush Justice department over this "torture" stuff. It will ground his admin to a stop if he tries that

474 Desert Dog  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:27:56pm

re: #441 SixDegrees

Different area, different war, but Little Big Horn is another great stop if you're out that way.

That is a nice one too! After Gettysburg, my second fav is Hastings in the UK. It is not as preserved (much older), but it is all still here up on Senlac Hill....you can trace what we call English today to that spot. Before, it was a low German...after the Normans came in, what we call English today was born. Once Harold took an arrow in the eye, Anglo-Saxon England changed forever.

475 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:28:02pm

re: #471 turn

Talking about puns, the ones on those bazooka wrappers are pretty corny.

I don't know. I get a blast out of them.......

476 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:28:18pm

re: #443 calcajun

Another exhibit in the museum of "What the Hell Were You Thinking?"

True enough. But there's real power to the place. It was pretty crowded when we stopped - and almost completely silent the whole time. I highly recommend it. The spot where each soldier fell has a marker on it. They were buried together, mostly, in a mass grave on the site, which has a large marker over it. Many of them were moved back to DC at some point. There's a marked, mass grave for the horses that were killed, as well as the men. And the landscape rolls out for miles in all directions, little different now from what it was then.

There's a national cemetery on the site, too, for soldiers from other wars.

477 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:28:27pm

re: #453 Russkilitlover

Any government official in the post-9/11 world hearing this smarmy warning would be beyone derelict in his/her duty to not beat the snot out of this dirtbag for further information. Imagine if LA was attacked, and it came out that while in custody we had this warning and did nothing.

I hope not, but this could happen with the 0bama administration. Although the chance of them actually capturing someone with that kind of information is also remote, now, the way the administration is.

478 opnion  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:28:56pm

re: #426 SixDegrees

Late yesterday, Cheney said he was going to seek the declassification of more memos, this time showing that various techniques that were used produced tangible results.

I think Obama's statement today is a slap at Cheney.

Could be, & that would fit with Obamas immaturity.

479 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:29:00pm

re: #466 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Pretty, but I like Norkis better. If someone were to fix you up with a girl named "Norkis," would you ever think that she'd look like this?

Like the saying goes, don't Norkis 'till you try it.

480 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:29:09pm

re: #469 alegrias

* * * *
Those sunken roads were not visible from below, and perhaps hadn't been scouted by the losing side.

It was inviting a complete slaughter. Very sad for all concerned. And hot as hell if you've ever been there in July.

For every Southern boy fourteen years old, not once but whenever he wants it, there is the instant when it's still not yet two o'clock on that July afternoon in 1863, the brigades are in position behind the rail fence, the guns are laid and ready in the woods and the furled flags are already loosened to break out and Pickett himself with his long oiled ringlets and his hat in one hand probably and his sword in the other looking up the hill waiting for Longstreet to give the word and it's all in the balance, it hasn't happened yet, it hasn't even begun yet, it not only hasn't begun yet but there is still time for it not to begin against that position and those circumstances which made more men than Garnett and Kemper and Armistead and Wilcox look grave yet it's going to begin, we all know that, we have come too far with too much at stake and that moment doesn't need even a fourteen-year-old boy to think This time. Maybe this time with all this much to lose than all this much to gain: Pennsylvania, Maryland, the world, the golden dome of Washington itself to crown with desperate and unbelievable victory the desperate gamble, the cast made two years ago.
– William Faulkner , Intruder in the Dust

481 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:30:45pm

re: #419 eschew_obfuscation

Looks like Obama has released some information regarding the benefits of waterboarding....

KSM and Flying Planes into buildings in L.A.

A sop to Cheney.

482 yochanan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:31:30pm

[Link: www.swamppolitics.com...]

more on show trials.

483 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:31:56pm

re: #474 Desert Dog

That is a nice one too! After Gettysburg, my second fav is Hastings in the UK. It is not as preserved (much older), but it is all still here up on Senlac Hill....you can trace what we call English today to that spot. Before, it was a low German...after the Normans came in, what we call English today was born. Once Harold took an arrow in the eye, Anglo-Saxon England changed forever.

A place I'd like to go is Isandlwana, in South Africa. It's the setting that the movie Zulu references. Classic battle full of lessons of what not to do when you're in a fight.
Just a fantasy though. I'll never get there.

484 turn  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:32:28pm

re: #431 Occasional Reader

For the Argentine side, do yourself a favor and google "Pampita".

whoa, that ding was from turn OR. I always said I learn something new here everyday. ohhh la la, dang what a nice arse

485 alegrias  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:32:39pm

re: #464 Russkilitlover

That's kind of the whole problem with RoPers, isn't it. The are bored shitless and boxed in by their religion with no industry, no production, no value added talents to contribute. That really sums up their whole angst.

* * * *
That's the problem with totalitarian systems.

Speaking of which, unionistas were marching & drumming monotonously on 18th street, NW two blocks from the White House about something, bugging everyone else trying to get to work or concentrate.

486 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:32:44pm

re: #483 LGoPs

A place I'd like to go is Isandlwana, in South Africa. It's the setting that the movie Zulu references. Classic battle full of lessons of what not to do when you're in a fight.
Just a fantasy though. I'll never get there.

Is Rourke's Drift preserved?

487 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:34:08pm

re: #469 alegrias

You forgot to add the men were wearing wool--not tropical wool, but heavy wool uniforms.

488 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:34:22pm

re: #478 opnion

Could be, & that would fit with Obamas immaturity.

Sounds like Obama may have caved to Cheney a bit, according to another poster, and released some of the information they pulled out of KSM a little while ago.

489 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:34:58pm

re: #481 SixDegrees

A sop to Cheney.

Maybe, but it appears to be a response to a question from CNS News to the CIA in reaffirmation of something the CIA had said in 2005.

The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of “enhanced techniques” of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.

490 Harvey  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:37:06pm

re: #486 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Is Rourke's Drift preserved?

Yes. There is a small museum/souvenir shop on the site and the builings are partially intact. Other key features of the battle are laid out with markings on the ground.

491 SixDegrees  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:37:08pm

re: #489 eschew_obfuscation

I'll be interesting to see how this plays out, and whether Obama wants to get into a public argument with his own CIA.

492 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:38:07pm

re: #480 OldLineTexan

Please, let's not start on the validity of the "states' rights" argument. Anyone who fears federal tyranny feels this way.

I do not know if "Pete" Longstreet said it, but I do like the line from his character in "Gettysburg"--"We should have freed the slaves--then fired on Ft. Sumter."

493 OldLineTexan  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:40:54pm

re: #492 calcajun

Please, let's not start on the validity of the "states' rights" argument. Anyone who fears federal tyranny feels this way.

I do not know if "Pete" Longstreet said it, but I do like the line from his character in "Gettysburg"--"We should have freed the slaves--then fired on Ft. Sumter."

With all due respect, it is a literary passage, not a political statement. Any "states' rights" found in it is manufactured by the finder.

As a Texan, I was NOT raised in the "Lost Cause" at all; as a descendant of a family with no slaves burned out by Sherman, I am no believer in the glory of war.

FWIW

494 turn  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:43:52pm

re: #492 calcajun

fwiw, turn got a personal tour of Gettysburg by William Longstreet a direct decedent of General Longstreet. I'm no student of history but the tour was fascinating and he knows all the history and what exactly took place in each and every corner of the battlefield. That was something I'll never forget.

495 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 12:46:10pm

re: #493 OldLineTexan

I know, but the passage evokes a moment --the "high tide" when victory was in sight--that many cling to and some of whom have less-than-pure motives.

In retrospect, the war was inevitable. But--got get back down into the salt mines.

496 LGoPs  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 1:07:55pm

re: #486 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Is Rourke's Drift preserved?

Not sure. Also not sure if Isandlwana is, but if it is Rourke's Drift would have to be a part of it. 11 Victoria Crosses won there. Don't know if that record was ever surpassed.

497 Occasional Reader  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 1:10:44pm

re: #486 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Is Rourke's Drift preserved?

Yes, you can still see the tire marks.

/

498 calcajun  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 1:14:16pm

re: #497 Occasional Reader

Yes, you can still see the tire marks.

/

*WHACK*

499 Buffalo Fats  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 4:18:07pm

An interesting Hawking quote:

"The whole history of science has been the gradual realization that events do not happen in an arbitrary manner, but that they reflect a certain underlying order, which may or may not be divinely inspired.”

500 UncleRancher  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 4:32:32pm

I've been looking for good news all day long, and this is the best news yet. Get well soon, Stephen. You are a giant among us.

501 CEQAttorney  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 4:47:02pm

Yay!

502 hopperandadropper  Tue, Apr 21, 2009 5:12:35pm

It's a medical miracle that Stephen Hawking has lived as long as he has. Most people with ALS don't last ten years, in fact most don't go more than about five years after diagnosis. I hope he lives to write more books.


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