And WE expected?

Why do you think Mr. Poontang got the job?

"plays dumb'

I don't think it's an act.

Fuck Iran.

Don't even need to click that link. Everything I need to know is in Charles' quotation.

Very typical of the UN and Ban Ki-moonbat to issue something less than a light glove slap to Ahmadinejad's face. They're starting to make the League of Nations look effective.

Oh, now, THAT should knock them back on their heels.
We pay money to these clowns. Lots of it. For the likes of this.
spits

The Secretary General is shocked at the endless repetition of hate from the Iranian president. He thought it would be different this time.

Hey, Ban Ki-maroon. It's the only song Ahmadinejad and his ilk know.

Charles, that's why I refer to him as Ban-Ki Moonbat.

He's upset that Ahmadinejad insulted the UN.

Posted this on the previous thread.
Why the hell not?
Obama open to prosecuting officials who wrote torture memos.

So tell me again how this guy isn't the worst thing to happen to America. You can keep your "loyal opposition" bullshit. He is wreckless and he is going to have United States blood on his hands.

Captain Ban Ki-Renaud.

"Esteemed President Ahmadinejad, let us please contain our deliberations to Israel- and Jew-hatred, and leave politics out of it."

Ban Ki-moon: "Not that there's anything wrong with feeling the way the Iranian president does. He's probably right. But this was really bad PR. I wish he hadn't done it."

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re: #11 NYCHardhat

Posted this on the previous thread.
Why the hell not?
Obama open to prosecuting officials who wrote torture memos.

So tell me again how this guy isn't the worst thing to happen to America. You can keep your "loyal opposition" bullshit. He is wreckless and he is going to have United States blood on his hands.

...but he'll lots of great photo opps with various dictators to look back on.

The UN, you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

And you were expecting him to talk about...?

re: #12 Occasional Reader

Captain Ban Ki-Renaud.

"I am shocked... shocked.... to find there is anti-semitism at this Jew-hating conference!"

re: #10 HelloDare

He's upset that Ahmadinejad insulted the UN.

How DARE he!

/////////

re: #15 livefreeor die

...but he'll lots of great photo opps with various dictators to look back on.

PIMF-he'll have lots of great photo opps

re: #16 jcm

The UN, you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Bet. Washington DC.

“It is very regretful that the conference was misused by the Iranian president for political purposes,” Ban said during an official visit to Malta.

ahmadinejad is laughing.

Why won't they just unclench already?

He said he had no new appointment to meet Ahmadinejad but

would approach Iran and other countries which had issues with the conference to discuss the situation.

Iran had issues with the conference? Iran?
F#cking asshat, Moon!

Judge rules pirate is an ADULT.

WOW...

Now THAT was strong.

OT -

A suspected pirate who may be as young as 15 will be tried as an adult, a federal judge has ruled.

(CNN - no text yet)

re: #25 nevergiveup

Judge rules pirate is an ADULT.

Excellent. Thanks for the update.

re: #11 NYCHardhat

What an oddly written article....

The president discussed the issue of terrorism-era interrogation tactics with reporters as he finished an Oval Office meeting with visiting King Abdullah II of Jordan.

Obama also said he could support a congressional investigation into the Bush-era terrorist detainee program, but only under certain conditions, such as if it were done on a bipartisan basis.

The era of terrorism ended with Bush?

re: #21 Walter L. Newton

Bet. Washington DC.

ROFL!

Pretty dang close......

re: #10 HelloDare

He's upset that Ahmadinejad insulted the UN.

Bingo!

“It is very regretful that the conference was misused by the Iranian president for political purposes,” Ban said during an official visit to Malta.

Ban Ki-moon could care less about Israel. He, and the U.N., have no intention of discouraging Iran from trying to wipe out Israel.

The NYT included a nice clueless moment to close out its article about the speech:

Those who supported the Obama administration’s attending the conference said their attitude was not altered by Mr. Ahmadinejad’s remarks. “It is unfortunate that the inappropriate and out-of-line remarks of Ahmadinejad would obscure the only international forum to address racism, racial discrimination and xenophobia,” Representative Barbara Lee, Democrat of California, said in a statement by the Congressional Black Caucus.

When you put a bunch of despots in charge of a conference of racism and xenophobia, what do you expect?

Did the room reek of sulphur after Ahmadinejad spoke?

re: #29 pink freud

Excellent. Thanks for the update.

Try him in Florida. Seek the death penaly.

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

OT -

A suspected pirate who may be as young as 15 will be tried as an adult, a federal judge has ruled.

(CNN - no text yet)

Moonbat wailing and gnashing of teeth to start in 5...4...3...

All this after obama worked his lovey-dovey mojo.....

re: #21 Walter L. Newton

Moss Esley

re: #35 NYCHardhat

Try him in Florida. Seek the death penalypenalty.

fixed

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

OT -

A suspected pirate who may be as young as 15 will be tried as an adult, a federal judge has ruled.

(CNN - no text yet)

I really think we sure be sure if he is an adult. Drop him 10 miles off shore and if he can swim to land, then he is an adult?

re: #25 nevergiveup

Judge rules pirate is an ADULT.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

re: #34 Fenway_Nation

Did the room reek of sulphur after Ahmadinejad spoke?

No...the cloud follows him as he moves.

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

OT -

A suspected pirate who may be as young as 15 will be tried as an adult, a federal judge has ruled.

(CNN - no text yet)

He's a victim!//

re: #36 livefreeor die

Moonbat wailing and gnashing of teeth to start in 5...4...3...

He's just a boy!
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re: #38 axegrinder

Moss Esley

WTF is Moss Esley?

re: #30 Killgore Trout

The era of terrorism ended with Bush?

You never got the memo?

re: #30 Killgore Trout

If the age of terrorism is over does that mean i can get on a plane without being anally probed now?

re: #35 NYCHardhat

Try him in Florida. Seek the death penaly.

Bring him to Texas, where he can spend his last hours in the Walls Unit in Huntsville. We don't screw around here.

I don't know, I think Ahmadinejad was one of the few honest people there- he didn't misuse the process, he fully participated.

An anti Semitic speech at an anti Semitic conference, who would have guessed.

re: #23 Sharmuta

Why won't they just unclench already?

I think they did, but it's not their fists.
When they unclenched, they shit all over everyone else.

re: #30 Killgore Trout

What an oddly written article....

The era of terrorism ended with Bush?

I guess the unicorns keep them away. And because of Barry, everybody loves us now! Wheee!

re: #25 nevergiveup

Judge rules pirate is an ADULT.

I predict right now..The pirate gets 20 years...

re: #42 transient

No...the cloud follows him as he moves.

It was all the bean burritos.

Obama also said he could support a congressional investigation into the Bush-era terrorist detainee program, but only under certain conditions, such as if it were done on a bipartisan basis.

There had better not be a single Republican who participates. And Lieberman needs to remove the duct tape from his mouth.

re: #21 Walter L. Newton

Bet. Washington DC.

* * *
You lose.

There are plenty of people in DC struggling valiantly and without much support, to resist total cave-in and even higher funding of the UN--how about that proposed 7% UN tax?

Who do you think objects? Who do you think tries to stop the runaway UN train?

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

OT -

A suspected pirate aquatic community activist who may be as young as 15 will be tried as an adult, a federal judge has ruled.

(CNN - no text yet)

Now that sentence is worthy of appearing in a CNN byline.

Why is the Sec. Gen. in Valetta? What sin have the Maltese committed that they have to be infested by the UN?

re: #44 jcm

He's just a boy!
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Sob. He never had other opportunities because of the evil US Navy.

re: #19 Ward Cleaver

How DARE he!

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Yes. No outrage about what Ahmadinejad says about Jews or Israel, a member of the UN. Ban Ki-moon doesn't seem to care about comments about Israel disappearing in a flash of white light. Ahmadinejad insulted the UN. That's his crime. Ban Ki-moon sounds like a gang member who's been disrespected.

This statement's so weak, I have to wonder if it was rather the appearance of a statement that was wanted instead of wanting to renounce these comments because it's the right thing to do.

It is NOT MERELY RHETORIC.

It is POLICY.

re: #45 Walter L. Newton

WTF is Moss Esley?

Why is Ban Ki-moonbat in Malta?

re: #52 HoosierHoops

I predict right now..The pirate gets 20 years...

This just means that it will be an open trial. He would have been tried anyway.

OT

Barney Frank is fat... who knew?

[Link: www.politico.com...]

re: #35 NYCHardhat

Try him in Florida. Seek the death penaly.

Texas or Oklahoma are better.

re: #59 HelloDare

Yes. No outrage about what Ahmadinejad says about Jews or Israel, a member of the UN. Ban Ki-moon doesn't seem to care about comments about Israel disappearing in a flash of white light. Ahmadinejad insulted the UN. That's his crime. Ban Ki-moon sounds like a gang member who's been disrespected.

Wonder if he owns a lowrider, and an AK?

I call BS on Ban Ki Moon. He and his staffers met with Ahmadinejad to water down the language of his keynote speech, and Ahmadinejad still made a mockery of the whole thing with his disgusting rant. This was what Moon was able to do.

More to the point, 100 countries reaffirmed Durban 1, which singles out one country for specific action: Israel.

It's the same damned outcome as the first Durban conference, and Moon sees nothing wrong with that. In fact, UN spokespeople were busy saying that Durban II repudiates Iran's Ahmadinejad. It does nothing of the sort. It reaffirms what Ahmadinejad said.

re: #60 Sharmuta

This statement's so weak, I have to wonder if it was rather the appearance of a statement that was wanted instead of wanting to renounce these comments because it's the right thing to do.

He who controls the spice, controls the UN.

re: #54 Russkilitlover

There had better not be a single Republican who participates. And Lieberman needs to remove the duct tape from his mouth.

Better yet, make it clear and unambiguous there will be consequences at he polls for the pols who put the health and welfare of Al Qaeda operatives ahead of their own contituents.

If it weren't for the fact that I may get arrested, I'd like to wipe it out and pee thru the fence at the UN. I don't know call me weird, but I'd get satisfaction outa that.

I think Martin Peretz is too generous about President Obama's eloquence, but his point is still spot on.

Allow me a vernacular quibble. One fact about your speaking is that it is ordinarily incisive and concise. So I was rather taken aback by the clumsiness of your explanation about why we were not going to Geneva. The language of the draft resolutions for Geneva "raised a whole set of objectionable provisions" and, as Cnaan Liphshiz reported in Ha'aretz, risked a reprise of the 2001 predecessor summit in Durban. This, you argued, "became a session through which folks expressed antagonism towards Israel in ways that were often times completely hypocritical and counterproductive."

These people whom you call "folks"--they were not people assembled at a "hootenanny"--were formal representatives of governments, some democratic, most not. They are not dumb. They were not being "counterproductive." They knew exactly what they were doing. And they were not being "hypocritical." They said exactly what they believed. And all that they said was actually false.

What the President considers "counterproductive," I found entirely "predictable," and Ahmadinejad probaby considered it "advancing his agenda."

What's even more shocking is that this dumb shit seems to think no one will criticize him for saying it was "political". What, are the rest of the UN's meetings political? I'd fire his butt all the way back to Seoul just for organizing the world wide "Everybody hates the Jews" conference anyway, and capping it off with this BS just makes it pathetic.

re: #65 Walter L. Newton

OT

Barney Frank is fat... who knew?

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Not to mention creepy.

UNfriggingbelievable. Can't we just quit the UN or something? What a friggin waste of time and money.

re: #56 Fenway_Nation
15... my ass,the guy is from somalia,who is he,the one person in the whole country that had a balenced diet.

re: #30 Killgore Trout

What an oddly written article....

The era of terrorism ended with Bush?

Nice catch.

Ban Ki-moon to Ahmadinejad: NO SOUP FOR YOU!

re: #49 Opinionated

I don't know, I think Ahmadinejad was one of the few honest people there- he didn't misuse the process, he fully participated.

An anti Semitic speech at an anti Semitic conference, who would have guessed.

* * * *
Objecting to funding this UN ought to be an honorable position one can defend without apology.

re: #65 Walter L. Newton

OT

Barney Frank is fat... who knew?

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Thuffering thuccotash!

re: #52 HoosierHoops

I predict right now..The pirate gets 20 years...

I'm starting to have mixed feelings about the whole friggin scene over there...the whole country needs to be taken under some kind of international control and slowly shored up with outside funds...short of that it will be a pain in everyones ass til the end of days....on it's own there is no hope for the Sammies...sad

re: #43 axegrinder

He's a victim!//

My most recent foray into this 'victim' territory: reading an essay last night on thedailybeast about the 28 year old who raped and murdered the 8 year old child in Florida.

Turns out she was (supposedly) raped herself at 18, leading to the atrocity she committed in Florida ....but we must view this all in a particular light, you see .....she is a victim herself .....

/just a victim .......................................

I couldn't finish reading it.

re: #34 Fenway_Nation

Did the room reek of sulphur after Ahmadinejad spoke?

The Devil went down to Geneva
He was looking for souls to bind
He was in a bind 'cause he was way behind
So he was looking for those of his kind

apologies to Charlie Daniels, and to Satan.

re: #75 turn

UNfriggingbelievable. Can't we just quit the UN or something? What a friggin waste of time and money.

No...we are the biggest part of the scam...we are the enablers

Barney Frank is fat... who knew?

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Rush did a hilarious spoof of Dancing Queen featuring Barney Frank singing 'Banking Queen.' It doubled me up with laughter and I teared up.

re: #70 Fenway_Nation

Hopefully This will be used as an issue in the next election of all those who participate.(scream it from the rooftops!)

I can't stop stop thinking about the last thread. Certainly puts bullshit like this in perspective.

Obama’s speciality is shaping up to be particularly dangerous because it’s hard to dispute given the average American’s sensibilities. No call for liberty and constitutional principle seems convincing when Obama is arguing that those relying on government giveaways should have to follow government-set rules. That is, once you’ve allowed them to go ahead with the handouts, the political game is almost over. Under the guise of “managing the taxpayers’ money", Obama and his crew are rewriting mortgages, deciding executive compensation, tossing out CEO’s. And note carefully that his plans for where taxpayers’ money should go continue to swell, from healthcare to the environment to energy policy to expanded “national service” programs. When taxpayers’ money is everywhere - and Obama is doing his best to make sure it is - then Obama’s control is everywhere. The Octo-potus is claiming his space and flexing his grip. As far as he’s concerned, it’s Barack Obama’s country. We’re just living in it.
- Brian Doherty

Samizdata via Instapundit

re: #85 axegrinder

Barney Frank is fat... who knew?

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Rush did a hilarious spoof of Dancing Queen featuring Barney Frank singing 'Banking Queen.' It doubled me up with laughter and I teared up.

That sounds awesome. Is there a link to it anywhere?

re: #85 axegrinder

Barney Frank is fat... who knew?

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Rush did a hilarious spoof of Dancing Queen featuring Barney Frank singing 'Banking Queen.' It doubled me up with laughter and I teared up.

"zeeeroooo dowwwwnnn"

:-)

Perhaps he'll find it very regretful that he can kiss my a**.

Time for the UN to go buh bye.

re: #87 Sharmuta

I can't stop stop thinking about the last thread. Certainly puts bullshit like this in perspective.

It shows why such a weak statement is really an endorsement of evil.
Ahmadinejad must be put down by all civilized people.

Christoper Reeves daughter is on FOX praising Obama and ragging on Bush. But since she sounds like she was brought up overseas, I say ?

re: #87 Sharmuta

I can't stop stop thinking about the last thread. Certainly puts bullshit like this in perspective.

anti-Semitism is a pot of gold and power

re: #82 pink freud

My most recent foray into this 'victim' territory: reading an essay last night on thedailybeast about the 28 year old who raped and murdered the 8 year old child in Florida.

Turns out she was (supposedly) raped herself at 18, leading to the atrocity she committed in Florida ....but we must view this all in a particular light, you see .....she is a victim herself .....

/just a victim .......................................

I couldn't finish reading it.

California, you mean? The Sandra Cantu case in Tracy?

God, I wouldn't have been able to finish reading either. Jesus. That case rips me apart. She was the kid's Sunday School teacher, a friend's mom. What non-relative could be more trusted?

Ugh.

re: #85 axegrinder

Barney Frank is fat... who knew?

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Rush did a hilarious spoof of Dancing Queen featuring Barney Frank singing 'Banking Queen.' It doubled me up with laughter and I teared up.

That's funny as hell. Paul Shanklin.

re: #68 lawhawk

Here's what Ban did:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad dropped language describing the Holocaust as "ambiguous and dubious" from a speech attacking Israel at a United Nations racism conference, the UN Said Tuesday.

The UN and the Iranian Mission in Geneva did not comment on why the change was made, but UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said Monday that he had met with Ahmadinejad before his speech and reminded him that the UN had adopted resolutions "to revoke the equation of Zionism with racism and to reaffirm the historical facts of the Holocaust."

Oooh. That really taught Ahmadinejad. He simply reworked his phrasing and still called Israel's existence into question, and his entourage felt it appropriate to call a Holocaust survivor, Elie Wiesel, a Zion-Nazi. Yeah, well played Sec. Gen. Ban Ki Moon.

"We are very angry with you and we will write you a letter telling you just how angry we are."

"Before the speech I had a long bilateral meeting with President Ahmadinejad and urged him to give a balanced and constructive contribution to the conference ..."

There are no athletic events held at Turtle Bay during lunch time.
Such usually involve (the use of) balls, and ...

re: #84 albusteve

On the plus side- if I was the producer or director of this documentary, I'd realize that you just can't buy this kind of publicity....

re: #84 albusteve

No...we are the biggest part of the scam...we are the enablers

I know, why do we do this to ourselves anyway? The only advantage I can see is it brings some "tourism" money into Gottham city.

re: #93 nevergiveup

Christoper Reeves daughter is on FOX praising Obama and ragging on Bush. But since she sounds like she was brought up overseas, I say ?

John Edwards said that if John Kerry was elected, Christopher Reeves would get up & walk.

re: #81 albusteve

I'm starting to have mixed feelings about the whole friggin scene over there...the whole country needs to be taken under some kind of international control and slowly shored up with outside funds...short of that it will be a pain in everyones ass til the end of days....on it's own there is no hope for the Sammies...sad

If only an organization like the United Nations could help failed states get on their feet.. Maybe we could start one or something

21:20 Jordan king tells Clinton: I came to U.S. to plan for new chapter in Mideast (Haaretz)

And who died and left you in charge? Oh yeah your dad. Nice democracy ya have there? Eat me.

re: #11 NYCHardhat

Ok, it looks like there's more to Obama's statement.....
Obama: Be careful with any CIA investigations

Update at 2 p.m. ET: As reporters wait for press secretary Robert Gibbs, the office of Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell is sending around an e-mail expressing puzzlement over Obama's comments regarding possible prosecutions. The e-mail says:

There is starting to be some news about how the President is now “open†to prosecuting former Bush administration officials related to interrogation policies of terrorists. While this is a change from what the administration has been saying, and from what Gibbs said just yesterday, I thought it might be good to review what the White House Chief of Staff said 48 hours ago:

EMANUEL: “Yes, but those who devised policy, he believes that they were -- should not be prosecuted either, and that's not the place that we go -- as he said in that letter, and I would really recommend people look at the full statement -- not the letter, the statement -- in that second paragraph, "this is not a time for retribution." It's time for reflection. It's not a time to use our energy and our time in looking back and any sense of anger and retribution.â€Â (This Week, ABC News, April 19, 2009)

It looks like Obama gave a poorly worded and ambiguous answer. However, I expect a lot of people to freak out over this one.

re: #82 pink freud

I have a short answer to that:

I don't care!

Far too many people have dreadful things happen to them, and they don't do monstrous things to others. At some point, it's a choice. At some point, the "victim" gives him/herself permission to do evil, and I don't care how they justify it.

I will exempt the mentally ill who hear voices. That's a very different story.

re: #97 lawhawk

Here's what Ban did:

Oooh. That really taught Ahmadinejad. He simply reworked his phrasing and still called Israel's existence into question, and his entourage felt it appropriate to call a Holocaust survivor, Elie Wiesel, a Zion-Nazi. Yeah, well played Sec. Gen. Ban Ki Moon.

It takes a special kind of evil to call someone whose family was wiped out by Hitler's goons a "Nazi". I can't even imagine what Wiesel was going through as he stood there. I read his book, "Night", 30 years ago and it still haunts me.

re: #93 nevergiveup

Christoper Reeves daughter is on FOX praising Obama and ragging on Bush. But since she sounds like she was brought up overseas, I say ?

Her mom didn't smoke and died of lung cancer.

She didn't smoke, so it wasn't made into a cause.

Unfortunate all around.

Just stands to reason. However, Ban Ki-moon much to his credit did say the following:

"Denying historical facts, especially on such an important subject as the Holocaust, is just not acceptable. Nor is it acceptable to call for the elimination of any State or people. I would like to see this fundamental principle respected both in rhetoric and in practice by all the members of the international community."

... in 2006.

Also if you look at http://www.un.org/holocaustremembrance/ it hasn't been updated in a good long while. Seems to me that it's just a token "effort".

Nice of Google to not recognize Yom Hashoah either. Would it kill them to put a frigging candle somewhere in their precious damned logo?

re: #93 nevergiveup

Christoper Reeves daughter is on FOX praising Obama and ragging on Bush. But since she sounds like she was brought up overseas, I say ?

Over the stem cell BS, right?

re: #101 turn

I know, why do we do this to ourselves anyway? The only advantage I can see is it brings some "tourism" money into Gottham city.

we don't our federal gov't does...I hate them both...equally

re: #102 opnion

If he could do that now, he'd smell pretty bad.///

re: #105 Killgore Trout

It looks like Obama gave a poorly worded and ambiguous answer.

Obama?! Poorly-worded and ambiguous?! Nooooo!

re: #110 turn

Over the stem cell BS, right?

Yes

re: #111 albusteve

we don't our federal gov't does...I hate them both...equally

ok fair enough, more basic question is why do we put up with the federal government?

Official Agenda for Ban Ki-moon for Tuesday May 21

9:15-10:00 Breakfast on the US Taxpayer's dime 50 dollars
10:30-11:00 Watch dinner jacket. Laugh at his act. Prepare fake statement publically condeming his act.
11:15-1:00 Lunch on the US Taxpayer's dime 300 dollars
2:00-2:30 Strongly worded letter to ______. If nobody needs a strongly worded letter, then use default strongly worded letter to Israel
3:30-5:00 Martinis on the US taxpayer's dime 200 dollars
7:00-10:00 Dinner at Le Circ on US taxpayers dime 1000 dollars
10:00--? Hookers, Martinis, Cigars.

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

California, you mean? The Sandra Cantu case in Tracy?

God, I wouldn't have been able to finish reading either. Jesus. That case rips me apart. She was the kid's Sunday School teacher, a friend's mom. What non-relative could be more trusted?

Ugh.

Yes, Sandra Cantu. What a beautiful child.

Today's climate will see that woman in therapy for the rest of her life instead of facing the death penalty. It sickens me.

re: #84 albusteve

No...we are the biggest part of the scam...we are the enablers

IIRC we provide 25% of the UN budget.

re: #114 nevergiveup

Yes

I bet you that you couldn't convince her adult stem cells are worth a shit

re: #113 Occasional Reader

Without a teleprompter and a snappy slogan he gets into trouble sometimes.

re: #89 livefreeor die

My apologies to the gay community. But this is too funny.

re: #108 Ben Hur

Her mom didn't smoke and died of lung cancer.

She didn't smoke, so it wasn't made into a cause.

Unfortunate all around.

One also has to wonder if, under the types of medical systems Obama seems to prefer, Christopher Reeve (or at least a non-famous, non-rich person with the same condition) would have lasted as long as he did. Dreadfully expensive, you know... shouldn't he be freeing up medical resources that could be better rationed to others? Etc.

the un building needs to be replaced with condoes

re: #1 Elcid

And WE expected?

At least a strongly worded letter.

re: #105 Killgore Trout

people deserve to be freaked out over this reckless and indecisive bullshit...if they are not they endorse investigations/prosecutions or they are not paying attention...like some already said....go for it BO...show us your game

re: #96 Ward Cleaver

That's funny as hell. Paul Shanklin.

The Banking Queen.

re: #79 alegrias

* * * *
Objecting to funding this UN ought to be an honorable position one can defend without apology.

We have a President who would sooner cut funding to our troops then to take a dime from that den of iniquity.

re: #116 Shug

Official Agenda for Ban Ki-moon for Tuesday May 21

9:15-10:00 Breakfast on the US Taxpayer's dime 50 dollars
10:30-11:00 Watch dinner jacket. Laugh at his act. Prepare fake statement publically condeming his act.
11:15-1:00 Lunch on the US Taxpayer's dime 300 dollars
2:00-2:30 Strongly worded letter to ______. If nobody needs a strongly worded letter, then use default strongly worded letter to Israel
3:30-5:00 Martinis on the US taxpayer's dime 200 dollars
7:00-10:00 Dinner at Le Circ on US taxpayers dime 1000 dollars
10:00--? Hookers, Martinis, Cigars.

I know that bastard is smoking the finest Cuban cigars...

re: #84 albusteve

No...we are the biggest part of the scam...we are the enablers

IIRC we provide 25% of the UN budget.

re: #105 Killgore Trout

It looks like Obama gave a poorly worded and ambiguous answer. However, I expect a lot of people to freak out over this one.

That's been the SOP for the Obama administration thus far. They aren't overly malicious, they've just rather incompetent.

re: #123 pegcity

the un building needs to be replaced with condoes

Or condoms

re: #82 pink freud

I read that as well and couldn't figure out what the argument was supposed to be. Do all rape victims go on to rape and murder? It was ludicrous.

re: #106 Dianna

I have a short answer to that:

I don't care!

Far too many people have dreadful things happen to them, and they don't do monstrous things to others. At some point, it's a choice. At some point, the "victim" gives him/herself permission to do evil, and I don't care how they justify it.

I will exempt the mentally ill who hear voices. That's a very different story.

The woman is a monster. That's all.

re: #116 Shug

Official Agenda for Ban Ki-moon for Tuesday May 21

9:15-10:00 Breakfast on the US Taxpayer's dime 50 dollars
10:30-11:00 Watch dinner jacket. Laugh at his act. Prepare fake statement publically condeming his act.
11:15-1:00 Lunch on the US Taxpayer's dime 300 dollars
2:00-2:30 Strongly worded letter to ______. If nobody needs a strongly worded letter, then use default strongly worded letter to Israel
3:30-5:00 Martinis on the US taxpayer's dime 200 dollars
7:00-10:00 Dinner at Le Circ on US taxpayers dime 1000 dollars
10:00--? Hookers, Martinis, Cigars.

Being a creep and an asshole- priceless

re: #129 jcm

IIRC we provide 25% of the UN budget.

And the UN and the rest of the world bitches and moans we don't pay enough? Eat me.

“It is very regretful that the conference was misused by the Iranian president for political purposes,” Ban said during an official visit to Malta.

Statements like these should be part of the UN's recurring updates on world affairs. They should name it "The Weak in Review"

re: #115 turn

ok fair enough, more basic question is why do we put up with the federal government?

because the droolers run the world?....nobody wants to take down the UN because it would be the end of their political career and they would go down in history as a pariah....I guess....why do people stand on the curb and watch an old man viciously beaten for his $16?

re: #135 nevergiveup

And the UN and the rest of the world bitches and moans we don't pay enough? Eat me.

Are you organic?
/

On Cavuto right now, a group of Seniors at American University are trying to get the University to wiothdraw the invitation for Barney Frank to speak at their graduation.
Their contention is that he helped cause the financial crisis. Smart kids.

re: #125 albusteve

I don't think there's much of a chance that Obama will prosecute anyone over interrogations. I don't think he wants to. It's a potentially serious situation but I don't think it's going to happen.

re: #127 Opinionated

We have a President who would sooner cut funding to our troops then to take a dime from that den of iniquity.

Imagine if (G-d forbid) one of the three snipers who took out the pirates had been shot.

Would The One make him pay for his medical recovery?

re: #62 jcm

And it's right too, Han shot first!

re: #137 albusteve

sheeple

re: #118 jcm

IIRC we provide 25% of the UN budget.

and 90% of the indifferance

re: #121 axegrinder

My apologies to the gay community. But this is too funny.

Ouch! My sides hurt from laughing! That is very well done-down to the speech impediment.

re: #141 Ben Hur

Imagine if (G-d forbid) one of the three snipers who took out the pirates had been shot.

Obama would have blamed Bush.

re: #139 opnion

On Cavuto right now, a group of Seniors at American University are trying to get the University to wiothdraw the invitation for Barney Frank to speak at their graduation.
Their contention is that he helped cause the financial crisis. Smart kids.

maybe he can give a speech at their Dental School instead .

re: #140 Killgore Trout

I don't think there's much of a chance that Obama will prosecute anyone over interrogations. I don't think he wants to. It's a potentially serious situation but I don't think it's going to happen.

That Jedi mind sh*t won't work on The One, my friend.

re: #138 LGoPs

Are you organic?
/

just pissed off

re: #121 axegrinder

That's Spinoff worthy.

re: #132 zeebeach

I read that as well and couldn't figure out what the argument was supposed to be. Do all rape victims go on to rape and murder? It was ludicrous.

Standard fare in today's world or moral relativism. Again ....sickening. Dianna nailed it up-thread.

re: #131 nevergiveup

Or condoms

/and the difference between the UN & a porcupine is?

OT

Truth to Power, for a change!

College kids object to Frank Barney speaking at their college commencement!
Admittedly conservative for the most part but including some dems, American University kids say Barney Frank was partly responsible for the financial meltdown.

Attractive student was on Neil Cavuto at 4:55pm

Look,

Our almighty President wakes up every morning thinking about how to keep this country safe. (Geez, that all sounds vaguely familiar). I wish he would just wake up worrying about whether Michelle remembered to make coffee the night before.

re: #140 Killgore Trout

I don't think there's much of a chance that Obama will prosecute anyone over interrogations. I don't think he wants to. It's a potentially serious situation but I don't think it's going to happen.

you'd have to ask Nancy Pelosi....after all BO is in her pocket

re: #120 Killgore Trout

Without a teleprompter and a snappy slogan he gets into trouble sometimes more often than not.

FIFY. Obama needs the TelePrompTer, or he gets into trouble with his mouth PDQ.

re: #125 albusteve

people deserve to be freaked out over this reckless and indecisive bullshit...if they are not they endorse investigations/prosecutions or they are not paying attention...like some already said....go for it BO...show us your game

It's what happens when you are tripping over yourself to disguise what you really mean with what is palapable to say. Happens to this administration and Congress a lot. They can't be clear. They have to obfuscate and make people feel hopey-changey warm and fuzzy until it's too late - i.e., billions spent, crushing debt for generations, projection weak leadership, dissing the country and it's people, etc.

Good news everyone! Ahmadinejad's latest screed isn't enough to discourage the white house to try and get the Iranians to unclench...

re: #147 Shug

maybe he can give a speech at their Dental School instead .

Hey hey?

re: #139 opnion

On Cavuto right now, a group of Seniors at American University are trying to get the University to wiothdraw the invitation for Barney Frank to speak at their graduation.
Their contention is that he helped cause the financial crisis. Smart kids.

cool, however it might be entertaining to see him melt down on a simple question again.

re: #133 pink freud

The woman is a monster. That's all.

I have worked with rape victims. I can't recall any of them expressing a desire to go out and rape and murder children. I am sick of the "but s/he was a victim so we can't punish them."

re: #155 albusteve

you'd have to ask Nancy Pelosi....after all BO is in her pocket

She is carrying that First Puppy around, in her pocket?
Aww ...

re: #146 Opinionated

Obama would have blamed Bush.

Those WERE Rumsfeld and Bush's snipers, were they not?

“It is very regretful that the conference was misused by the Iranian president for political purposes,” Ban said during an official visit to Malta.

This isn't a weak statement. It is nuanced statescraft.

What did you expect him to do? Write a strongly worded letter telling Ahmadinejad how angry he was at spoiling the conference?

You may be that kind of radical extremist, but Ban isn't.

/sarc

I've got a question for you guys. Knowing what we do about how absolutely terrible Communist governments were in the 20th century, if you could go back in time Quantum Leap-style and leap into Harry Truman's body, would you have given the go-ahead to fight the Russians in '45?

re: #105 Killgore Trout

There's a good reason to be concerned over Obama's statement. He knew, or had reason to know, that any poorly worded statement on how the Administration would deal with those involved in the interrogations would result in an outcry. They did so in any event.

They put out a statement that could be construed as leaving the door open, even as the Administration was busy saying that they wouldn't. What are people to believe? There wasn't a complete bar to prosecuting those involved in the decision making process, which is what should have been the case.

Every statement made by Obama comes with an expiration date.

re: #82 pink freud

My most recent foray into this 'victim' territory: reading an essay last night on thedailybeast about the 28 year old who raped and murdered the 8 year old child in Florida.

Turns out she was (supposedly) raped herself at 18, leading to the atrocity she committed in Florida ....but we must view this all in a particular light, you see .....she is a victim herself .....

/just a victim .......................................

I couldn't finish reading it.

I was abused by a bitch like her when I was five I never even thought of hurting another human being because of it. She needs to be put down like the fucking animal she is. No mercy.

re: #140 Killgore Trout

I don't think there's much of a chance that Obama will prosecute anyone over interrogations. I don't think he wants to. It's a potentially serious situation but I don't think it's going to happen.

I'm not too sure about that KT. It could be that he is just pandering a bit to the far left kos kids with his choice of words with no intention of prosecuting but I have a sinking feeling someone in the Bush administration is going to end up in court over this.

re: #123 pegcity

the un building needs to be replaced with condoes

A museum to its failures, as much as can fit in the spot.

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

I did not know that..Thanks Buzz

re: #157 Russkilitlover

It's what happens when you are tripping over yourself to disguise what you really mean with what is palapable to say. Happens to this administration and Congress a lot. They can't be clear. They have to obfuscate and make people feel hopey-changey warm and fuzzy until it's too late - i.e., billions spent, crushing debt for generations, projection weak leadership, dissing the country and it's people, etc.

the feds are out of control....this latest threat will be a monumental fuck up if they go ahead with it...and if they go half way, their dead....politically

re: #167 lawhawk

There's a good reason to be concerned over Obama's statement. He knew, or had reason to know, that any poorly worded statement on how the Administration would deal with those involved in the interrogations would result in an outcry. They did so in any event.

They put out a statement that could be construed as leaving the door open, even as the Administration was busy saying that they wouldn't. What are people to believe? There wasn't a complete bar to prosecuting those involved in the decision making process, which is what should have been the case.

Every statement made by Obama comes with an expiration date.

1/2012

re: #142 Honorary Yooper

And it's right too, Han shot first!

Some has a blaster in my face, damn right I'll shoot first.

BBL

I read that after the big walk-out all but the Czech republich walked back in. For fuck sake, grow some balls, Europe, you're all next if not already. This entire show is a sham and should have been cancelled forthwith the moment Dinnerjacket started the rant. By not doing so, we see, plainly and clearly, the agenda of the UN, to kowtow to islam, whether radical or otherwise.

re: #160 turn

cool, however it might be entertaining to see him melt down on a simple question again.

These kids don't have a chance but I get their point. To try to ban Frank from the campus would be a denial of free speech & they are not doing that. They just don't want him honored.

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

As an independent state, Israel is only about 20 years younger than the oldest states in the region,

No way, dude! Israel, like, was made when the Jews attacked the country of Palestine, in like a Seven Day War or something. I heard it at the rally. I learned all kinds of cool shit there.

re: #158 Fenway_Nation

Good news everyone! Ahmadinejad's latest screed isn't enough to discourage the white house to try and get the Iranians to unclench...

Meanwhile, our President won't meet with Netanyahu.

re: #152 brookly red

/and the difference between the UN & a porcupine is?

I don't know; they're both full of pricks.

re: #174 jcm
Is there any way to keep g.Lucas'hands off his own franchise....

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

Reminder: Israel did not spring fully-formed from the ashes of the Holocaust. It came into being because there had been 60 years of labor to build the infrastructure of the hoped-for, dreamed-for state prior to Israeli independence. To build this infrastructure they had to fight restrictive laws under the Ottomans and under the British; poverty; inhospitable, worn-out soil, drought, swamp and malaria; and constant jihad from their Arab neighbors.

As an independent state, Israel is only about 20 years younger than the oldest states in the region, as most of these states, like the Land of Israel, had been part of the Ottoman Empire prior to the end of WWI. Israel is not a newcomer.

And MEMO to OBAMA: Israel is not at,in, near or anticipating any ABYSS. The abyss is all those NONDEMOCRATIC "countries" that surround Israel that are economic and moral failures. Take a history course asshole.

re: #167 lawhawk

There's a good reason to be concerned over Obama's statement. He knew, or had reason to know, that any poorly worded statement on how the Administration would deal with those involved in the interrogations would result in an outcry. They did so in any event.

They put out a statement that could be construed as leaving the door open, even as the Administration was busy saying that they wouldn't. What are people to believe? There wasn't a complete bar to prosecuting those involved in the decision making process, which is what should have been the case.

Every statement made by Obama comes with an expiration date.

He's there for ya, until he's not.

re: #152 brookly red

/and the difference between the UN & a porcupine is?

There isn't one. They both curl up in a ball when danger threatens them and they are full of pricks.

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

All those countries that claim Israel is illegitimate are themselves little different than Israel - formed as a result of carving up the Ottoman Empire by the Brits and French. Lebanon, Syria - the Levant - had French influence (still seen by the French inspired design of Beirut, etc.) The British influence extended South - into Israel, Jordan, and the Arabia Peninsula.

The legitimacy of those borders - those regimes - is based on decisions made by colonial powers a scant few years prior to Israel's very existence born from a colonial mandate in Palestine.

re: #157 Russkilitlover

It's what happens when you are tripping over yourself to disguise what you really mean with what is palapable to say. Happens to this administration and Congress a lot. They can't be clear. They have to obfuscate and make people feel hopey-changey warm and fuzzy until it's too late - i.e., billions spent, crushing debt for generations, projection weak leadership, dissing the country and it's people, etc.

That is so true russ, maybe that's why turn likes Newt so much. He doesn't obfuscate.

re: #166 ConservatismNow!

I've got a question for you guys. Knowing what we do about how absolutely terrible Communist governments were in the 20th century, if you could go back in time Quantum Leap-style and leap into Harry Truman's body, would you have given the go-ahead to fight the Russians in '45?

No...54 million people had just died in WW2..Enough is enough..
Maybe some skilled diplomacy would have been the order of the day..But no more war in '45

re: #154 Maui Girl

Look,

Our almighty President wakes up every morning thinking about how to keep this country safe. (Geez, that all sounds vaguely familiar). I wish he would just wake up worrying about whether Michelle remembered to make coffee the night before.

Whats even more worrying for you guys is that he now has to worry about whether the dog has been fed, or walked, or let out to do "do-dos"

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Ok, it looks like there's more to Obama's statement.....
Obama: Be careful with any CIA investigations

It looks like Obama gave a poorly worded and ambiguous answer. However, I expect a lot of people to freak out over this one.

B-but he's so eloquent!

Sounds like the TOTUS is asleep on the job.

re: #179 HelloDare

Meanwhile, our President won't meet with Netanyahu.

Well well well!
When all the doors in Washington were closed in General Gabi Ashkenazy's face at his visit a few weeks ago, I thought that there could well be shenanigans in regard to Bibi's visit.

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Ok, it looks like there's more to Obama's statement.....
Obama: Be careful with any CIA investigations

It looks like Obama gave a poorly worded and ambiguous answer. However, I expect a lot of people to freak out over this one.

He'll leave it up to Eric Holder.
Good god.

re: #179 HelloDare

Meanwhile, our President won't meet with Netanyahu.

None of this is surprising, he told us who he is in his memoirs & speeches.
We have never had a radical left President like this before.

re: #166 ConservatismNow!

I've got a question for you guys. Knowing what we do about how absolutely terrible Communist governments were in the 20th century, if you could go back in time Quantum Leap-style and leap into Harry Truman's body, would you have given the go-ahead to fight the Russians in '45?

Probably not. For one thing, I doubt the American people would have stood for it. And it would have turned into an absolute horrorshow for our troops. The Red Army was VERY strong in 1945. Picture an absolute SEA of T-34s.

People used to laugh at the yahoos & rednecks who objected to sending their US constituents' tax dollars to the UN.

Anyone here still think those "unsophisticated" retro Congress people and Presidents were stupid for objecting to funding haters' conferences in the lap of luxury?

We should all grow some guts and demand this criminal enterprise lose their funding.

re: #167 lawhawk

They put out a statement that could be construed as leaving the door open

that's what turn meant about pandering to the left in 169, only you say it much better LH. I'm on the fence on this one, could go either way but O sure ain't doing much to make it clear it won't go the bad way.

re: #187 HoosierHoops

No...54 million people had just died in WW2..Enough is enough..
Maybe some skilled diplomacy would have been the order of the day..But no more war in '45

Ok, fair enough. I can understand that. What about in Hungary in '56? If you were Eisenhower, would you have assisted? As a corollary, was coming to Korea's aid in '50 the correct action?

re: #179 HelloDare

Meanwhile, our President won't meet with Netanyahu.

He has chummy soul handshakes for Hugo Chavez, and won't even deign to meet Bibi. OUTRAGE.

re: #185 lawhawk

All those countries that claim Israel is illegitimate are themselves little different than Israel - formed as a result of carving up the Ottoman Empire by the Brits and French. Lebanon, Syria - the Levant - had French influence (still seen by the French inspired design of Beirut, etc.) The British influence extended South - into Israel, Jordan, and the Arabia Peninsula.

The legitimacy of those borders - those regimes - is based on decisions made by colonial powers a scant few years prior to Israel's very existence born from a colonial mandate in Palestine.

Just a footnote: this carve-up happened after WWI, a the Versailles Peace Conference.
IIRC, a certain Mr Wilson, President of te USA, also participated at that conference ...

re: #166 ConservatismNow!

I've got a question for you guys. Knowing what we do about how absolutely terrible Communist governments were in the 20th century, if you could go back in time Quantum Leap-style and leap into Harry Truman's body, would you have given the go-ahead to fight the Russians in '45?

No. It would have been impossible in my mind to convince the American people that their ally was bad enough to take on. Especially not after the bloodletting that had just ended.
And in retrospect, it is good that we didn't. Sure we stood eyeball to eyeball in the Cold War and fought peripheral actions during the course of it but in the end the risk of nuclear annhilation kept them from launching their tank divisions through the Fulda Gap. They were evil fuckers, but rational ones all the same. It was fitting that Reagan brought them down without there being another World War.

re: #192 opnion

None of this is surprising, he told us who he is in his memoirs & speeches.
We have never had a radical left President like this before.

Can't wait to hear his excuse for this.

re: #181 Boondock St. Bender

Is there any way to keep g.Lucas'hands off his own franchise....

I couldn't agree more. Let Quentin Tarantino Direct the next three. Those last three were embarrassing except for the fight scenes. I love light saber battles and Yoda was awesome.

re: #179 HelloDare

Meanwhile, our President won't meet with Netanyahu.

Actually, he has invited Netanyahu and Abbas, separately, for talks.
Article here

While saying that both sides must show “gestures of good faith,” the president did not specify want he expected from the PA. He officially invited Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas for separate talks in the next few weeks.

I'm not sure what "gesture" he could get from the Palis, except for a finger at Netanyahu.
Maybe he should insist they recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state?
No, he'll require Netanyahu to recognize a Pali state that won't recognize Israel in return.

re: #193 Occasional Reader

and clouds of B-29s...loaded with all kinds or ordnance...jus sayin

re: #177 opnion

These kids don't have a chance but I get their point. To try to ban Frank from the campus would be a denial of free speech & they are not doing that. They just don't want him honored.

maybe one of them will play banking queen when he tries to speak, ha

re: #182 nevergiveup

And MEMO to OBAMA: Israel is not at,in, near or anticipating any ABYSS. The abyss is all those NONDEMOCRATIC "countries" that surround Israel that are economic and moral failures. Take a history course asshole.

Unfortunately, he'll take a course that uses Zinn's book and others of its ilk.

I hear the Secretary General was also shocked by Perez Hilton.

re: #197 Occasional Reader

He has chummy soul handshakes for Hugo Chavez, and won't even deign to meet Bibi. OUTRAGE.

He is a scumbag. I don't think there is anything he can do to win me over at this point. He has damaged so much.

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Not surprising. They're trying to have it both ways: appease the F-Bushitler constituency yet keep from veering too far out of the bounds of the law. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they're looking for a juicy scapegoat right now.

re: #166 ConservatismNow!

I've got a question for you guys. Knowing what we do about how absolutely terrible Communist governments were in the 20th century, if you could go back in time Quantum Leap-style and leap into Harry Truman's body, would you have given the go-ahead to fight the Russians in '45?

Tough one. The US was war weary. It would have been a hard sell, with little popular support.

Maybe adopt the Reagan approach in '45.
Support anti-communism countries.
Challenge their expansion into client state.
Military build up to force them to respond.
Czechoslovakia '53 & Hungary '56 were missed opportunities.

Loud mouth Beck on FOX.

re: #198 yma o hyd

Just a footnote: this carve-up happened after WWI, a the Versailles Peace Conference.
IIRC, a certain Mr Wilson, President of te USA, also participated at that conference ...

And the League of Nations was born which was the forerunner to the UN.
It didn't work out well.

re: #76 Boondock St. Bender Does it matter what his real age is? Their girls are considered adults to be married off at age 8. This boy became a man the day he turned 8 also. Fucking double-standards.

re: #200 KenJen

Can't wait to hear his excuse for this.

no excuse, this is who he is...

re: #204 turn

maybe one of them will play banking queen when he tries to speak, ha

It would be like the movie Mamma Mia with a lisp.

re: #203 albusteve

and clouds of B-29s...loaded with all kinds or ordnance...jus sayin

Yes, it would have been a killfest on both sides. Our war losses would have LEAPT into the seven figures, maybe eight. Stalin would have cheerfully sent millions more of his own into the meat grinder. He didn't give a shit.

re: #181 Boondock St. Bender

Is there any way to keep g.Lucas'hands off his own franchise....

ROFL!

re: #207 NYCHardhat

He is a scumbag. I don't think there is anything he can do to win me over at this point. He has damaged so much.

and it's only the opening volley...wat til Israel socks Iran...BO will have miles of undeciferable blab to wade through

re: #210 nevergiveup

Loud mouth Beck on FOX.

* * * *
Decrying California dem Senator Feinstein's husbands' cozy & profitable relationship with recipients of his wife's $25 billion gifts of tax dollars.

re: #193 Occasional Reader

Probably not. For one thing, I doubt the American people would have stood for it. And it would have turned into an absolute horrorshow for our troops. The Red Army was VERY strong in 1945. Picture an absolute SEA of T-34s.

Not only that. In April of 1945, we still had NOT defeated Japan nor had we yet successfully exploded the A Bomb. Plans to transport many of the European troops to the Pacific were in the hopper.

re: #169 turn

I'm not too sure about that KT. It could be that he is just pandering a bit to the far left kos kids with his choice of words with no intention of prosecuting but I have a sinking feeling someone in the Bush administration is going to end up in court over this.

It's possible but I think it's unlikely. This story is a great example of why I don't take anybody's word for anything these days. The more outrageous the headline the more skeptical I get. I won't take anyone's word about what somebody said or what's in a document without checking myself. It's always a good policy but these days it's essential. I strongly suspect this is a non-story.

re: #196 ConservatismNow!
Hungary...no,too close to the russian sphere of influence(actually inside of it)and too quick to get any covert assistence in.
korea yes,but with a muzzle on Mcarthuer,and solid assurances to the chinese.

Every time I see the name Ban Ki-Moon, I remember a certain popular anime from a number of years ago. It makes me wonder if there is a Ban Ki-Senshi.

Ban Ki-Moon - An immature crybaby who hates having to fight evil and wants nothing more than to be a normal girl. As she progresses, however, she embraces the chance to use her power to protect those she cares about.

Ban Ki-Mercury - Power over all phases of water. Shy exterior masks a passion for knowledge and for taking care of the people around her.

Ban Ki-Mars - She can manipulate fire. She is very serious and focused.

Ban Ki-Jupiter - Attacks with lightning and with some control over plants. She cultivates her physical strength as well as more domestic interests.

Ban Ki-Venus - Soldier of Love, and leads Ban Ki-Moon's four inner guardians.

Ban Ki-Pluto - The Guardian of Time, who has the task of protecting the Space-Time Door from unauthorized travelers. She has a distant personality and can be very stern, but can also be quite friendly and helps the younger Ban Ki-Senshi when she can.

Ban Ki-Neptune - Channels the power of the ocean. She worked alone for some time before finding her partner, Ban Ki-Uranus, with whom she fell in love.

Ban Ki-Uranus - Soldier of the Sky. She tends to dress and speak like a man. She is so friendly and genial that nearly everyone she meets is attracted to her. When it comes to fighting the enemy, however, she distrusts outside help and prefers to work solely with Ban Ki-Neptune and, later, Pluto and Saturn.

Ban Ki-Saturn - Soldier of Silence. She wields forces of destruction so powerful that she is rarely called upon to use them, and unlike the others, her Senshi and civilian personae seem somewhat disconnected. She is often pensive, and has the inexplicable power to heal others.

re: #215 opnion

It would be like the movie Mamma Mia with a lisp.

a while back someone here typed out fwank lisping through something, it was so hilarious. I should have hit the heart on that one.

re: #212 UberInfidel67

Does it matter what his real age is? Their girls are considered adults to be married off at age 8. This boy became a man the day he turned 8 also. Fucking double-standards.

No, no, no, he becomes a man when, at the age of 40, he gets his chance to marry an 8 year old, the waiting list is that long. Up till then its , well, use your imagination.

re: #209 jcm

Tough one. The US was war weary. It would have been a hard sell, with little popular support.

Maybe adopt the Reagan approach in '45.
Support anti-communism countries.
Challenge their expansion into client state.
Military build up to force them to respond.
Czechoslovakia '53 & Hungary '56 were missed opportunities.

Dunno about Hungary '56.
At the same time Anthony Eden (a British Prime Minister ...) and the French were engaged in taking over the Suez Canal, from Nasser. By force. Eisenhower had to deal with that - and some historians hint that this circumstance allowed the Soviets to invade Hungary - they knew there would not be any American opposition.

re: #216 Occasional Reader

Yes, it would have been a killfest on both sides. Our war losses would have LEAPT into the seven figures, maybe eight. Stalin would have cheerfully sent millions more of his own into the meat grinder. He didn't give a shit.

you were exactly right the first time about the willingness of the people...it was not there, but there is little doubt one way or another the Reds would have ceased to exist...imo

OT:

I know we had a separate thread about this, but this is too good to bury down there.

On HuffPo's FBI Most Wanted thread, you find this:

Encouragement for the terrorist:

HopefulAgainInTX

Keep up the good fight Daniel.
Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 04/21/2009

And this back to back gem:

triplbee

I remember those bombings. (I live near the Chiron offices.) They were very minor. I can't believe that what really amounts to vandalism can land someone on the FBI's Most Wanted List.
Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 04/21/2009

- + zach4500

It's spin, being used to deflect the right wingers rage over that "leaked" DHS memo about monitoring right wing extremists.

Now they can point to the FBI most wanted" being a "leftist", and he's expendable to them because he's "just" an animal rights activist who made sure no people would be harmed before setting off the "bombs".
Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 04/21/2009

Just another example of how the leftist mind operates.

re: #225 A Kiwi Infidel
What a confusing civilization they have there////////////

re: #218 albusteve

and it's only the opening volley...wat til Israel socks Iran...BO will have miles of undeciferable blab to wade through

Poor puppy - I hope he won't get sick!

;-)

re: #221 Killgore Trout

It's possible but I think it's unlikely. This story is a great example of why I don't take anybody's word for anything these days. The more outrageous the headline the more skeptical I get. I won't take anyone's word about what somebody said or what's in a document without checking myself. It's always a good policy but these days it's essential. I strongly suspect this is a non-story.

Well no one here will say you don't check things out KT, whether you're obsessed with it is another matter all together.
/

re: #216 Occasional Reader

Yes, it would have been a killfest on both sides. Our war losses would have LEAPT into the seven figures, maybe eight. Stalin would have cheerfully sent millions more of his own into the meat grinder. He didn't give a shit.

What is even more worrying is that dinnerjacket doesnt give a shit about the people of Iran nor anyone in the region and is willing to sacrifice all to see the return of his magical maghdi.

re: #232 turn

he is not obsessed...we need his skepticism

re: #196 ConservatismNow!

Ok, fair enough. I can understand that. What about in Hungary in '56? If you were Eisenhower, would you have assisted? As a corollary, was coming to Korea's aid in '50 the correct action?

I'm sorry..I don't know..That was before my time..My foreign policy cred is weak.. I know this..If our Korea policy was so successful how come they are still desperately trying to fit a Nuclear Bomb on a long range Missile? Something didn't quite work out right there. You don't need a PH.d in politics to figure that out...

re: #228 albusteve

you were exactly right the first time about the willingness of the people...it was not there, but there is little doubt one way or another the Reds would have ceased to exist...imo

They wouldn't have totally ceased to exist. They are an idea as much as any one people. And that idea has chameleon like traits that allow it to invade and infect other causes and countries. Global Warming is just one example IMO.

re: #226 yma o hyd

That's very true.
Missed opportunity, due to a lot of reasons.

re: #147 Shug

maybe he can give a speech at their Dental School Endoscopy Clinic instead .

re: #236 LGoPs

They wouldn't have totally ceased to exist. They are an idea as much as any one people. And that idea has chameleon like traits that allow it to invade and infect other causes and countries. Global Warming is just one example IMO.

hyperbole....I'm guilty

OT: Do not read this on a full stomach. You will lose your lunch.

AP: Pirate comes to NY, world away from home in Africa

Abdiwali Abdiqadir Muse grew up destitute in Somalia, the product of a violent, lawless nation where his mother scraped together a few dollars a day selling milk and tending to a small herd of camels, cows and goats.

For entertainment, he would frequent a run-down outdoor cinema and watch Bollywood movies in a town with no running water or electricity. He eventually joined up with a gang of pirates who laid siege to an American cargo ship and took the captain hostage. The standoff ended last week with three of the pirates killed by U.S. Navy snipers. Muse survived but was stabbed in the hand with an ice pick.

On Tuesday, the teenager found himself a world away from the dusty tenements and pirate ships of Somalia, appearing in a packed federal courtroom in New York on what are believed to be the first piracy charges in the U.S. in more than a century.

The 5-foot-2 Muse looked bewildered and so scrawny that his prison clothes were several sizes too big. He had a frayed white bandage where he was stabbed.

Boo fucking hoo. AP wants me to feel SORRY for this little criminal? Bullshit. He belongs in a jail cell where he can enjoy all the comforts of modern life that are unavailable to him in his failed country. And that's probably too good for him.

re: #234 albusteve

he is not obsessed...we need his skepticism

I know, I was trying to be sarcastic

re: #216 Occasional Reader

Yes, it would have been a killfest on both sides. Our war losses would have LEAPT into the seven figures, maybe eight. Stalin would have cheerfully sent millions more of his own into the meat grinder. He didn't give a shit.

Did the Russians have the manpower to continue against the US? Imagine if the Marines finished off Japan and then subsequently took Vladivostok. I honestly think the US could have won it, but it would have been a hard sell for the American people. I think we could have pushed the Soviet Union into collapse long before we defeated them militarily.

re: #241 turn

I know, I was trying to be sarcastic

I'm kind of a Trouthead

re: #140 Killgore Trout

I don't think there's much of a chance that Obama will prosecute anyone over interrogations. I don't think he wants to. It's a potentially serious situation but I don't think it's going to happen.

You better be right. I'd rather people hyperventilated than that the Obama administration starts playing that stupid, dangerous game.

re: #166 ConservatismNow!

I've got a question for you guys. Knowing what we do about how absolutely terrible Communist governments were in the 20th century, if you could go back in time Quantum Leap-style and leap into Harry Truman's body, would you have given the go-ahead to fight the Russians in '45?

The atomic bomb was in its final phase of development. We had the advantage of long-range bombers (to hit the most remote factories in eastern Russia) and a general staff (Patton) that could have rolled them up. Hell yes, I would have given the go-ahead.

re: #244 Dianna

You better be right. I'd rather people hyperventilated than that the Obama administration starts playing that stupid, dangerous game.

one that he cannot win...it would be a huge mistake...HUGE!

re: #224 turn

a while back someone here typed out fwank lisping through something, it was so hilarious. I should have hit the heart on that one.

WAs that the one where Barney was trying to bribe a kid to steal the records from Fannie Mae, 'Wissen up,(slurp , spit, drool) , wats of cash fo the wecords"

re: #242 ConservatismNow!

Did the Russians have the manpower to continue against the US? Imagine if the Marines finished off Japan and then subsequently took Vladivostok. I honestly think the US could have won it, but it would have been a hard sell for the American people. I think we could have pushed the Soviet Union into collapse long before we defeated them militarily.

I think the Soviets had a great advantage on land due to the fact that the bulk of their manpower was in the Army. America, while powerful, had to divide it's manpower among the Navy, Marines and Air Force.
Of course the Soviets had sufferred millions of casualties but in defense of their Motherland they would have been a formidable opponent. It would have taken nukes IMO to defeat them.

re: #248 LGoPs

I think the Soviets had a great advantage on land due to the fact that the bulk of their manpower was in the Army. America, while powerful, had to divide it's manpower among the Navy, Marines and Air Force.
Of course the Soviets had sufferred millions of casualties but in defense of their Motherland they would have been a formidable opponent. It would have taken nukes IMO to defeat them.

correct...I agree

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

Reminder: Israel did not spring fully-formed from the ashes of the Holocaust. It came into being because there had been 60 years of labor to build the infrastructure of the hoped-for, dreamed-for state prior to Israeli independence. To build this infrastructure they had to fight restrictive laws under the Ottomans and under the British; poverty; inhospitable, worn-out soil, drought, swamp and malaria; and constant jihad from their Arab neighbors.

As an independent state, Israel is only about 20 years younger than the oldest states in the region, as most of these states, like the Land of Israel, had been part of the Ottoman Empire prior to the end of WWI. Israel is not a newcomer.

Very true, Buzz
that being said, I just remembered that my Rabbi did remind us all last week, that Yom Ha Shoah was originally called “Yom Ha Shoah Ve-Ha Gevurah” , Ha Gevurah meaning strength . It actually commemorates the anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising.

Abolish the UN!
This a link to an English article on a German site by a German literature critic who lives in New York. He calls for the UN to be abolished and talks some of the history of the UN and the disgusting roles that organization played since it's inception.

"....... All in all, the conference in Durban was a pogrom wearing the black tie of diplomacy. ....... Alger Hiss ....... „Venona cables“ .......
Only three groups by now derive any discernible profit from the UN’s existence:
(a) Antisemites. .......
(b) Pedophiles. .......
(c) Genocidal murderers. .......
....... Faced with the antisemitic farce that is now taking place under the UN’s auspices in Geneva the time has come to draw consequences. Let me put them in the nerdy terms of computer technology: a reboot won’t do the trick, the hard drive needs to be replaced. This means: US – out of the UN! And UN – out of the US! Let this organization lead a shady afterlife in Tehran, Tripolis or Caracas while we consider what better alternative we might replace it with." _{Hannes Stein}

Read the whole article well worth it.
The website, by the way is a conglomeration of politically incorrect and non-mainstream journalist who write against the opinions de jour. 'Achse des Guten' translates literally to 'Axis of the Good'.
Cheers
Harry C.

I wouldn't exactly rely on the UN when it comes to trusting them in doing the right thing, they rarely do. The US should never, ever rely on that corrupt and crooked organization for approval on any matters which are of even the slightest importance.

The UN isn't just a platform for various countries to meet and discuss anymore. It's turning more and more into a place where primitive, thug countries often voting en masse are hijacking various agencies and are attempting to pass ridiculous laws such as prohibiting freedom of speech while legitimizing their own barbaric practices. The US certainly doesn't need any corrupt and fascist "world government" passing ridiculous laws and telling them what to do. The US also doesn't need a bunch of idiotic Europeans with their brains up their asses and their heads bowed towards Mecca deciding that Americans are war criminals and should stand trial in their "international" joke of a court.

When the asylum has been taken over by the inmates, then it's probably a good idea to leave, and I hope to see the day when the US kicks the UN out of this country for good. What good is the UN anyhow? Right behind Al-Qaeda, they're probably one of the biggest threats to any American in my opinion.

re: #251 callahan23

Abolish the UN!
This a link to an English article on a German site by a German literature critic who lives in New York. He calls for the UN to be abolished and talks some of the history of the UN and the disgusting roles that organization played since it's inception.

Read the whole article well worth it.
The website, by the way is a conglomeration of politically incorrect and non-mainstream journalist who write against the opinions de jour. 'Achse des Guten' translates literally to 'Axis of the Good'.
Cheers
Harry C.

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Thank you for posting this surprising article.
This is good and deserves wider dissemination.

The UN is the most dysfunctional organization in our times.
It turned out that Ahmadinejad wanted to say much more than he did.
Ahmadinejad dropped ambiguous Holocaust reference from UN speech

Soona' brought up a good point. The US had the advantage of having one of the most brilliant Command staffs ever assembled. Eisenhower, Nimitz, Macarthur, Patton, Bradley, Marshall, and LeMay. Just off the top of my head.