Iranian Irony Watch
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Iran’s “new unmanned aircraft” happens to be an Israeli Heron 1. (But their nuclear program is the real thing.)
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CIA Reject Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:09:49am |
Oh good GAWD! Not another display of Iranian "super weapons"...
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Nevergiveup Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:10:25am |
Yeah i saw that a few days ago. I think I even posted it. They are pretty pathetic liars? Kinda funny.
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CynicalConservative Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:10:40am |
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Opinionated Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:11:18am |
The Jews stole Palestine and then they stole their drone.
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VegasRick Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:11:34am |
re: #1 Sharmuta
The irainians are lying- they don't have a drone.
They won't need drones once they get nuke (even dirty bomb) abilities. Know liars are still dangerous.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:11:54am |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:12:02am |
Charles
Can you clarify? So you don't think that Iran is any where near having the capabilities of launching an atomic bomb.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:12:04am |
I thought it was illegal to do business with Israel?
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Sharmuta Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:12:28am |
Iranian state-run news agency Press TV ran a story on its website this week praising the unveiling of an Iranian-made drone, that according to the Israeli daily Maariv bears a striking resemblance to an earlier photo taken in Israel of an Israeli-made drone.
iranian propaganda is so weak.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:12:41am |
re: #9 Walter L. Newton
Charles
Can you clarify? So you don't think that Iran is any where near having the capabilities of launching an atomic bomb.
I think he means it is real. And we should be worried.
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MJ Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:12:51am |
I get the same feeling when I see a photo of Ahmadinejad; I see Hitler.
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Kragar Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:12:58am |
Sure its bullshit, but the folks at home love it
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:14:06am |
re: #10 Ward Cleaver
I thought it was illegal to do business with Israel?
I don't think the Iranians got the plane from Israel, just stole the photo from someplace and claimed it as their own.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:14:27am |
First the photo-shopped missile launch and now, stealing photographs from the Israelis?
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Opinionated Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:14:35am |
re: #10 Ward Cleaver
I thought it was illegal to do business with Israel?
Sure, but it says right there is the Koran that you can steal a picture from the Jews.
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Dianna Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:14:51am |
re: #9 Walter L. Newton
Charles
Can you clarify? So you don't think that Iran is any where near having the capabilities of launching an atomic bomb.
I get scared when I remember that they don't need a missile.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:15:19am |
re: #16 MandyManners
First the photo-shopped missile launch and now, stealing photographs from the Israelis?
Yeah, the mullahs are pretty lame in that regard.
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jaunte Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:15:22am |
I guess the Iranians felt they had to do something after the Ababil drone was shot down.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:15:24am |
If the irony were any thicker, you couldn't cut it with a saw.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:15:25am |
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:15:29am |
The picture was a fake to mislead the Zionist entity.
Here's a picture of the real drone.
/
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Sharmuta Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:15:43am |
re: #16 MandyManners
First the photo-shopped missile launch and now, stealing photographs from the Israelis?
Don't forget the photoshopped rebel weapons cache with wal-mart ammo.
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jcm Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:16:23am |
The Iran Air Force used to have a page up and the picture was of the USAF Thunderbirds.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:16:26am |
re: #9 Walter L. Newton
Charles
Can you clarify? So you don't think that Iran is any where near having the capabilities of launching an atomic bomb.
When someone claims to have a WMD, you don't wait until the fuckwad sets it off in a major city. It's safer for us all to take him at his word and take him out.
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Dianna Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:16:50am |
re: #22 Nevergiveup
They kinda do
Working nuke in a container.
It could go wrong, of course, and not go off. But I get a nasty stirring on the back of my neck when I think about that.
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brookly red Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:17:02am |
Iran has been doing a lot of posturing lately, I wounder if they are worried about something?
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:17:44am |
So you are telling me that Israel is supplying Iran with drones?
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Dianna Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:17:56am |
re: #30 brookly red
Iran has been doing a lot of posturing lately, I wounder if they are worried about something?
They're always posturing, it's a totalitarian disease.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:17:56am |
This is just too damn funny.
Hey Mahmoud! Am Yisroel Chai! Hurts, don't it?
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:18:15am |
re: #24 Sharmuta
Don't forget the photoshopped rebel weapons cache with wal-mart ammo.
I think I missed that one.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:18:16am |
re: #29 Dianna
Working nuke in a container.
It could go wrong, of course, and not go off. But I get a nasty stirring on the back of my neck when I think about that.
Yeah, but that still works better in movies than in real life. But I get your point.
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Desert Dog Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:19:02am |
They need to hire better PR and Internet guys. There are 15 year olds here that could make them look better than they are right now. Pathetic.
They are not as strong as they portray obviously, but it does not take much to mess up that part of the world.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:19:23am |
re: #28 Honorary Yooper
When someone claims to have a WMD, you don't wait until the fuckwad sets it off in a major city. It's safer for us all to take him at his word and take him out.
Iraq?
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Dianna Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:19:39am |
re: #36 Nevergiveup
Yeah, but that still works better in movies than in real life. But I get your point.
Good - I don't disagree with you, about it not necessarily working all that well. But what was that line? "One nuclear device can just ruin your whole day."
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:19:42am |
re: #28 Honorary Yooper
When someone claims to have a WMD, you don't wait until the fuckwad sets it off in a major city. It's safer for us all to take him at his word and take him out.
Ok, the wording on the thread heading is confusing as far as I'm concerned. This is a link to an article of Iranian cheap propaganda and lies and then Charles says "But their nuclear program is the real thing."
We go from lies to truth, I missed the point some how. Sorry.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:19:45am |
re: #15 Honorary Yooper
I don't think the Iranians got the plane from Israel, just stole the photo from someplace and claimed it as their own.
It's not the first time either. They've used footage of tests run by others to claim successful weapons tests and they've repeatedly altered footage to show successful weapons, when they were abject failures.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:19:52am |
re: #32 Dianna
They're always posturing, it's a totalitarian disease.
Very true. Stalin postured, and had the army to back it up. Hitler postured, and then invaded Poland. They posture because it is what totalitarians do. They posture for the world, and they posture for their own people. They'd make decent actors if they were in Hollywood.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:20:03am |
re: #29 Dianna
It could go wrong, of course, and not go off.
If they had a working nuke, it would be dead simple to set it up to detonate upon arrival. Hell, even I can more or less figure out how to do it (though I'm still not going to post it).
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:20:08am |
re: #30 brookly red
Iran has been doing a lot of posturing lately, I wounder if they are worried about something?
Sneaky thought: they know the world will detect the lies and photo-shopping but they're doing it as a way to keep us off-balance while the centrifuges spin away.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:20:49am |
In a related story, Iran has released photos of its newest battleship, already lying in wait outside of Philadelphia.
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Desert Dog Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:20:53am |
A new Iranian fighter has been introduced:
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Dianna Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:20:57am |
re: #44 Occasional Reader
No, let's not give anyone any ideas they haven't already had.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:21:00am |
re: #44 Occasional Reader
If they had a working nuke, it would be dead simple to set it up to detonate upon arrival. Hell, even I can more or less figure out how to do it (though I'm still not going to post it).
Are coyotes haraam?
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VegasRick Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:21:14am |
re: #37 Desert Dog
They need to hire better PR and Internet guys. There are 15 year olds here that could make them look better than they are right now. Pathetic.
They are not as strong as they portray obviously, but it does not take much to mess up that part of the world.
This guy is available
[Link: www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com...]
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opnion Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:21:46am |
re: #30 brookly red
Iran has been doing a lot of posturing lately, I wounder if they are worried about something?
Iranians are braggarts, they were before the Shah, during the Shah & now with the Mullahs. Seems to be a national trait.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:21:47am |
Adobe should investigate to make sure they're using a licensed copy of photoshop.
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FightingBack Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:22:20am |
re: #37 Desert Dog
Oh, I don't know. They seem to have won the news game. Israel is seen as the aggressor.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:22:30am |
re: #41 Walter L. Newton
Even if the Iranians don't have fully working centrifuges, they can easily obtain nuclear material from those who do. North Korea comes to mind.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:22:41am |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Adobe should investigate to make sure they're using a licensed copy of photoshop.
I bet they didn't.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:22:56am |
re: #43 Honorary Yooper
Very true. Stalin postured, and had the army to back it up. Hitler postured, and then invaded Poland. They posture because it is what totalitarians do. They posture for the world, and they posture for their own people. They'd make decent actors if they were in Hollywood.
The whole "bomber gap" was Khrushchev posturing. He had bombers fly over the parade several times.
We didn't have enough intelligence from inside the USSR to be sure they didn't have the bombers, so the US had to match them. We could build more than they could.
It backfired.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:23:05am |
BREAKING NEWS:
IRNA (Iranian news agency) releases 100% authentic photo of latest Islamic Republic superweapon!
Run for your lives!
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:23:15am |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Adobe should investigate to make sure they're using a licensed copy of photoshop.
Why don't we turn them in. I hear there's up to million dollar reward for reporting software piracy.
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3 wood Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:23:16am |
OT:
Some good economic news for a change:
Mortgage applications up 5.3% last week: MBA
CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- Mortgage applications rose a seasonally adjusted 5.3% last week, compared with the week before, due to an uptick in refinance applications, the Mortgage Bankers Association reported on Wednesday.
Applications were up 76.9% for the week ended April 17, compared with the same week in 2008, the MBA said. The weekly MBA survey covers about half of all U.S. retail residential mortgage applications.
Refinance applications were up an unadjusted 7.7% last week, compared with the week before. Applications for mortgages to purchase a home were down a seasonally adjusted 4.2%, compared with the week before.
The four-week moving average for all mortgages was up 0.3%.
The share of applications for refinance mortgages was 79.7% of total applications, up from 77.8% the previous week. The share of adjustable-rate mortgages was 1.4% of all applications last week, down slightly from 1.5% the previous week.
I think the 76.9% increase quoted in the second paragraph might by a typo on their part. But be that as it may, there is starting to be some solid indications that the real estate market is starting to firm a bit.
The Dow is up abut 44 points at the moment.
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Buck Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:23:37am |
re: #9 Walter L. Newton
Charles
Can you clarify? So you don't think that Iran is any where near having the capabilities of launching an atomic bomb.
I think Charles is saying that the Iranians have been lying (with photoshop) about missile launches, and now this... yet Obama and the left believes them when they say their Nuclear program is for peaceful power only...
You know what I mean? They aren't launching a satellite... they aren't developing drones...
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:23:39am |
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:23:42am |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Adobe should investigate to make sure they're using a licensed copy of photoshop.
Isn't there like a major reward for turning in software pirates like that? I heard it on some ad on the radio.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:23:50am |
re: #60 Occasional Reader
BREAKING NEWS:
IRNA (Iranian news agency) releases 100% authentic photo of latest Islamic Republic superweapon!
Run for your lives!
Wasn't that in some movie?
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FBRM Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:24:14am |
Speaking of irony, I'm looking at an ad on your website that is promoting Intelligent Design.
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ORD neighbor Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:24:29am |
USA is falling behind Iran! Oh no! A Photoshop gap!
/do I need to?
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Desert Dog Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:24:35am |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Adobe should investigate to make sure they're using a licensed copy of photoshop.
Now, now, let's not be hasty in judging, they are using an Iranian made software called allahshop, it is similar to photoshop, but was developed by the glorious Islamic Revolutionary Software Development Company.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:24:41am |
re: #60 Occasional Reader
BREAKING NEWS:
IRNA (Iranian news agency) releases 100% authentic photo of latest Islamic Republic superweapon!
Run for your lives!
But then why do they have an alliance with the Wookiees?
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:24:43am |
re: #57 Honorary Yooper
Even if the Iranians don't have fully working centrifuges, they can easily obtain nuclear material from those who do. North Korea comes to mind.
The Iranians do have working centrifuges. Roughly 7,000 of them. It's a mix of IR-1 and IR-2 centrifuges, both of which are based on Pakistani designs (P1, P2). It's simply a matter of time for Iran to gather sufficient materials to make a nuclear weapon.
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3 wood Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:24:46am |
re: #47 taxfreekiller
ps
Grades do count in the real world.
Standard and Poor's just put NYT's at B+, that is four levels below investment grade security.
They are "junk" every which way.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:25:28am |
But the Iranians can take it apart with their feet.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:25:32am |
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Desert Dog Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:25:33am |
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Opinionated Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:26:02am |
OK, this is good, tells you much about this administration.
Stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons is an imperative for the United States, which is taking a more active role in pursuing that goal, US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Wednesday.
Testifying before the Foreign Affairs Committee in the House of Representatives, Clinton cited Iran and its nuclear program among the administration's highest priorities.
"We are deploying new approaches to the threat posed by Iran, and we're doing so with our eyes wide open and with no illusions," she said.
Sounds good right?
Now the punchline.
"We know the imperative of preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons," she added. "After years during which the United States basically sat on the sidelines, we are now a full partner" in international talks on Iran.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
We are really really serious, so we are going to join more talks that have gone nowhere.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:26:09am |
re: #78 Desert Dog
They have trained shrubbery to kill Americans....that is terrifying!
They do have a nice tiered effect...
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Kenneth Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:26:27am |
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:26:47am |
re: #60 Occasional Reader
BREAKING NEWS:
IRNA (Iranian news agency) releases 100% authentic photo of latest Islamic Republic superweapon!
Run for your lives!
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:27:00am |
re: #63 Buck
I think Charles is saying that the Iranians have been lying (with photoshop) about missile launches, and now this... yet Obama and the left believes them when they say their Nuclear program is for peaceful power only...
You know what I mean? They aren't launching a satellite... they aren't developing drones...
No, I don't know what you mean, and I don't think you know what Charles meant.
And I don't understand what Charles meant. I'm not suggesting anything except that I was wanting a clarification as to Charles' comment above.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:27:08am |
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Desert Dog Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:27:10am |
re: #81 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
They do have a nice tiered effect...
Next, they will chop down the mightiest tree in the forest with a mackerel
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Dianna Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:27:17am |
re: #68 FBRM
Speaking of irony, I'm looking at an ad on your website that is promoting Intelligent Design.
We know - it's been explained half-a-dozen times.
What it really shows is that the Discovery Institute et al. have more money than they know what to do with.
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irish rose Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:27:18am |
re: #62 3 wood
My fiance is a systems engineer with a long list of certifications and 15 years experience under his belt, and he's been out of work for a year and a half. We can't buy an engagement ring until he's back to work, and it's breaking his heart. Mine too.
I'll be glad when the economy starts to rebound, is this is a glimmer of hope perhaps that things are starting to turn around?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:27:21am |
re: #78 Desert Dog
They have trained shrubbery to kill Americans....that is terrifying!
Now now, all we need is the Knights who say Nye!
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:27:48am |
re: #62 3 wood
I think the 76.9% increase quoted in the second paragraph might by a typo on their part. But be that as it may, there is starting to be some solid indications that the real estate market is starting to firm a bit.
Good news!
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Shr_Nfr Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:28:07am |
What I really love is their ability to not only duplicate the Israeli drone, but also duplicate the Israeli clouds. When you have that sort of ability, its awesome. The clouds in both pictures are the same.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:28:20am |
Behold! The mighty legions of Iran's super-commandos!
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jcm Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:28:21am |
re: #83 Occasional Reader
Piloted by Richard Basehart!
Damn, when did he defect? And he took the Seaview with him?
We're doomed!
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SixDegrees Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:28:29am |
re: #29 Dianna
Working nuke in a container.
It could go wrong, of course, and not go off. But I get a nasty stirring on the back of my neck when I think about that.
Even if this isn't viable, there are very serious problems with nukes in such close proximity as these two enemies. There is NO time for analysis in the event of something that looks like a nuclear attack. Your only option is to launch your own countermeasures immediately.
If it turns out that whatever set the signal off was a flock of birds flying into a radar dish, now you've got a real damn problem.
Nuclear confrontation tends toward nervous, itchy trigger fingers. When you're only a few miles apart, things can go very, very wrong very, very quickly indeed.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:28:36am |
re: #89 irish rose
My fiance is a systems engineer with a long list of certifications and 15 years experience under his belt, and he's been out of work for a year and a half. We can't buy an engagement ring until he's back to work, and it's breaking his heart. Mine too.
I'll be glad when the economy starts to rebound, is this is a glimmer of hope perhaps that things are starting to turn around?
I have 30 years as a programmer and I can't get full time work in my field. I've been looking for 5 years.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:28:43am |
re: #91 buzzsawmonkey
Birnam Wood
We're not allowed any wood-birnam' stoves... carbon footprint and all that.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:28:58am |
re: #87 Desert Dog
Next, they will chop down the mightiest tree in the forest with a mackerel
A herring!
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irish rose Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:29:40am |
re: #97 Walter L. Newton
Thanks, I feel much better now.
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lawhawk Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:29:52am |
re: #91 buzzsawmonkey
Birnam Wood--coming soon to a Dunsinane near you!
There ent no two ways about it. I see a guard or two, but night falls on Middle Earth.
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Desert Dog Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:30:21am |
re: #99 Kosh's Shadow
A herring!
Blasphemy on my part! I will have to turn in my "I've memorized Monty Python and the Holy Grail" membership card now......
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:30:43am |
re: #89 irish rose
My fiance is a systems engineer with a long list of certifications and 15 years experience under his belt, and he's been out of work for a year and a half. We can't buy an engagement ring until he's back to work, and it's breaking his heart. Mine too.
I'll be glad when the economy starts to rebound, is this is a glimmer of hope perhaps that things are starting to turn around?
Skip the ring.//
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Killgore Trout Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:30:48am |
OT: Gay progressive Muslim antisemitism at HuffPo....
Poor Israel? Sure, and I am Barack Obama!
I write from Geneva, where I was invited to speak at the UN "Durban II" conference on racism and have just today been spat at by two Israelis.
....
Later, two Israeli delegates spat at me. Surprisingly, an erudite Canadian professor and member of Parliament threw around a baffling and hard-to-explain term: "genocidal anti-Semitism". Only he knows what he means, I certainly do not!
Still later as the Iranian president walked into his press conference, clueless, young (all White by the way) UN workers stood and hissed, accusing him of "racism" (a term problematically applied in this case).
Today for the first time I was witness to the extent of power the pro-Israel , anti-Iran and anti-Palestinian lobbies wield, even here in Geneva.
....
Israel and its many lobbies in majority Caucasian countries (and sometimes mine like India) are loud enough to drown out the rhetoric of the humble former mayor of Tehran.
I write, in a hurry from Geneva where I shall now go and torment myself at a Shoa remembrance being turned into an Iran hate-fest.
Progressive!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:31:01am |
re: #98 Occasional Reader
We're not allowed any wood-birnam' stoves... carbon footprint and all that.
Thank you for being so Frank(lin) with us.
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jcm Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:31:17am |
Sure SEALs can kill 3 pirates with 3 shots from one moving platform to another moving platform.....
But can they do this!
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:32:00am |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:32:43am |
re: #101 irish rose
Thanks, I feel much better now.
No, I wasn't trying to scare you, sorry, I'm just stating facts. I'm a bit more pragmatic about certain things. And I am 56 years old, probably a lot older than your boyfriend.
I don't see real estate as being a big indicator or anything more than people who have money, those who haven't taken a big hit, are buying up stuff cheap, I know, I did it in the early 80's myself.
Bottom line is, this is not any indication that anything has changed for the common, everyday folk.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:33:17am |
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Shr_Nfr Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:33:36am |
re: #64 lawhawk
In defense of the wookies, I will note that they are using the same camouflage technique that the British sharpshooters use in Afghanistan. I would never call one of those Brits a wookie to his face.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:33:50am |
re: #104 Desert Dog
Blasphemy on my part! I will have to turn in my "I've memorized Monty Python and the Holy Grail" membership card now......
It's not so bad. You don't have to turn it in.
(Are the Knights Who Say Ni writhing in pain yet?)
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VioletTiger Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:34:21am |
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Russkilitlover Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:34:31am |
re: #45 MandyManners
Sneaky thought: they know the world will detect the lies and photo-shopping but they're doing it as a way to keep us off-balance while the centrifuges spin away.
Kind of like the way the Administration is oblique enough on hot button issues to keep the Republicans all stirred up over a bunch of mist.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:34:32am |
re: #108 jcm
Sure SEALs can kill 3 pirates with 3 shots from one moving platform to another moving platform.....
But can they do this!
Quite useful talent should one lose both arms in battle.
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lurking faith Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:34:41am |
re: #78 Desert Dog
They have trained shrubbery to kill Americans....that is terrifying!
What are they - the Knights who say Ni?
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So? Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:34:48am |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:35:52am |
re: #119 unrealizedviewpoint
Quite useful talent should one lose both arms in battle.
It's only a flesh wound. The Black Knight always triumphs!
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:36:03am |
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3 wood Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:36:09am |
re: #89 irish rose
My fiance is a systems engineer with a long list of certifications and 15 years experience under his belt, and he's been out of work for a year and a half. We can't buy an engagement ring until he's back to work, and it's breaking his heart. Mine too.
I'll be glad when the economy starts to rebound, is this is a glimmer of hope perhaps that things are starting to turn around?
Two different issues at play here. Employment is a lagging indicator, usually the market turns up or down about 6 months or so before you see an appreciable change in the employment numbers.
Presuming that Obama, Geithner and company to not further damage the economy, I think we are stabilizing, although unemployment numbers are likely to keep going up for a few months yet. A key will be if we get some limitations put on the destructive short selling that has been going on.
Right now it is still a shooting gallery in the market due to unfettered short selling, and the big money is going to stand on the sidelines until that gets taken care of.
So, I think the economy is starting to stabilize. What we then willhave to deal with is hyper inflation due to the trillions that have been pumped into the banking system and the velocity of money (how fast it changes hands) has slowed down about 40% but will speed up again.
I think we should see a noticable upturn late this year yet.
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MandyManners Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:36:20am |
re: #118 Russkilitlover
Kind of like the way the Administration is oblique enough on hot button issues to keep the Republicans all stirred up over a bunch of mist.
Precisely.
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Buck Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:36:52am |
re: #85 Walter L. Newton
No, I don't know what you mean, and I don't think you know what Charles meant.
And I don't understand what Charles meant. I'm not suggesting anything except that I was wanting a clarification as to Charles' comment above.
OK Walter.... I was just trying to help.... You know connecting the word IRONY with what he wrote in the post.
We show, over and over again, that the Iranians are liars... but we are expected to believe them when they say their Peaceful Nuclear Power Programs is for real...
Not likely....
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SixDegrees Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:36:54am |
re: #68 FBRM
Speaking of irony, I'm looking at an ad on your website that is promoting Intelligent Design.
The ads are placed based on keywords. ID and related terms get mentioned here a lot. The ad filter sees a whole bunch of those terms, and (stupidly) decides that quantity equals actual interest.
It's unlikely the ID'ers are getting much bang for their advertising dollar.
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So? Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:37:08am |
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Desert Dog Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:37:23am |
re: #108 jcm
Sure SEALs can kill 3 pirates with 3 shots from one moving platform to another moving platform.....
But can they do this!
[Video]
Meanwhile, the Navy Seals have the footsie boys in their sites awaiting orders from headquarter to eliminate the "pedestrian forces"
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3 wood Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:38:41am |
re: #103 taxfreekiller
3-Wood
Did you see, the Perots via their Hillwood Venture do not have "Victory" any longer, the German investor group US Treuhand forced them to give up their $100,000,000.00 ownership stake in the venture down town Dallas around the America Air Lines Center (center belongs to tax payers)
They will still operate the venture, but no ownership, banks had to re-do the loans.
This will dry up the Perots as land buyers in the Dallas area, and they were no. one in that, thus commerical land will have to get re-priced,
the loans on existing land deals will be suspect.like that
Now "Victory" belongs to the Germans.
Nope had not heard that but thanks for the heads up.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:38:49am |
re: #114 Shr_Nfr
In defense of the wookies, I will note that they are using the same camouflage technique that the British sharpshooters use in Afghanistan.
Or ours... the gilly suit. What puzzles me is that they don't appear to be carrying sniper weapons.
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Dustyvet Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:40:31am |
Obama Reaches Out To Iran by Patrick Chappatte
Image: cartoons,funny,iran,obama,politics,usa-992347cd6784d9c1da869e4738539833_m.jpg
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Kenneth Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:41:14am |
re: #132 Occasional Reader
Or ours... the gilly suit. What puzzles me is that they don't appear to be carrying sniper weapons.
The Iranian sniper rifles were all shipped to their agents in Iraq.
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3 wood Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:41:19am |
re: #101 irish rose
You can do what I did. My wife wanted a big expensive engagement ring and I was a dirt poor Graduate Student at the time. I told her I could either buy her the engagement ring, or we could get married, but I could not afford to do both.
We will celebrate our 26th anniversary in about 6 weeks.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:42:47am |
re: #135 3 wood
I told her I could either buy her the engagement ring, or we could get married, but I could not afford to do both.
I was quite cheered when my bride to be nonchalantly said that in her country, engagement rings were not common, and let's instead put that money toward the honeymoon and/or a house...
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mfarmer1 Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:50:06am |
Dan Rather has certified the Iranian photo as accurate.
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Kenneth Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:50:25am |
re: #137 Occasional Reader
Did you explain to her that in your country engagement rings weren't that common, but exchanging matching handguns are?
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3 wood Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:50:26am |
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apachegunner Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:53:04am |
re: #13 MJ
I get the same feeling when I see a photo of Ahmadinejad; I see Hitler.
I see an evil monkey
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_RememberTonyC Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:55:12am |
I miss the Shah ...
Damn you, jimmy "the patron saint of islamofascism" carter ...
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3 wood Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:56:32am |
The connection between the real estate prices and the average person on the street is this:
1. Many people have their retirement savings in the market and to the extent that a firming of real estate prices has a positive impact on the market, that helps those investors.
2. You need to have a firming of real estate prices and have the inventory of empty homes reduced before demand for new construction can significantly improve. That is important cause of the many folks who work in the trades and therefore their incomes are affected by the demand for new construction.
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Dustyvet Wed, Apr 22, 2009 9:56:52am |
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lurking faith Wed, Apr 22, 2009 10:00:32am |
re: #89 irish rose
The ring's just an accessory. But I do understand the pride issue involved here. Mr. faith insisted on buying me more ring than I would have asked for, more than he could really afford right then, because he knew I would not allow him to "upgrade" it later on. I'd have been okay with an imitation stone and gold plated metal. Hell, if he'd given me a twist-tie to wrap around my finger, that's what I'd be wearing to this day.
There is no shame in lacking money.
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Opinionated Wed, Apr 22, 2009 10:06:56am |
The Arab/Islamic World:
Scene one:
Kuwaiti candidate urges ties with Israel
"Israel is a reality and has international influence... Kuwait would benefit from Israel's influence if we establish relations," said Saleh Bahman, who is running as an independent.
He also said relations between Kuwait and Israel would improve the oil-rich country's standing in the West.
Scene Two:
Salah Bahman, an independent candidate for the Kuwaiti parliament, has dropped out of the race a day after he called for full normalization of relations between Israel and Kuwait, igniting a storm of controversy in the Persian gulf state.
In a radio interview Wednesday, Bahman backtracked on his previous statement before announcing his withdrawal from the race.
This is the reality the media ignores.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Apr 22, 2009 10:08:56am |
re: #15 Honorary Yooper
I don't think the Iranians got the plane from Israel, just stole the photo from someplace and claimed it as their own.
I know, it was just a bit of humor.
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kansas Wed, Apr 22, 2009 10:11:22am |
re: #28 Honorary Yooper
When someone claims to have a WMD, you don't wait until the fuckwad sets it off in a major city. It's safer for us all to take him at his word and take him out.
Obama will take him out. For dinner and a movie.
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Cygnus Wed, Apr 22, 2009 10:20:02am |
re: #7 Kosh's Shadow
Isn't Ahmadinejad a drone?
If they have drones, then maybe Ahmadinejad is the Queen Bee.
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samsgran1948 Wed, Apr 22, 2009 10:38:15am |
re: #32 Dianna
They're always posturing, it's a totalitarian disease.
I think it's a little more than that. Ajad really, really needs something to distract the populace from Iran's super crappy financial state. The price of oil is around half of what he needs to balance Iran's budget, much less support every anti-semitic nutjob running loose in the world. There's an election coming up this summer. An attack on Iran would really help rally the Iranians behind him.
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Brees Wed, Apr 22, 2009 12:05:47pm |
Good Lord! (sorry...a Christian saying)
Who are these clowns trying to fool? It is the exact same photo. They didn't even bother to photoshop the background clouds to make it look any different.
The Iranian that doctored their missile test pics, must have been on vacation (jihad) or something.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 22, 2009 12:50:22pm |
re: #5 Opinionated
The Jews stole Palestine and then they stole their drone.
Well, they stole Moses' clothes.
/old joke
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 22, 2009 12:52:48pm |
re: #13 MJ
I get the same feeling when I see a photo of Ahmadinejad; I see Hitler.
I got that exact sense, watching The Speech on C-Span. Here's the scary thing: he's just the front man.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Apr 22, 2009 1:13:16pm |
re: #137 Occasional Reader
I was quite cheered when my bride to be nonchalantly said that in her country, engagement rings were not common, and let's instead put that money toward the honeymoon and/or a house...
I just wear a wedding band--which is absolutely perfect, we got it from an adorable little Jewish goldsmith in Berkeley. My theory is that for our tenth anniversary or something, I'll make him get me a band to match with a nice ruby or something. (My husband is phobic about buying diamonds.)
Of course, a friend offered me the diamond from her late marriage. (The marriage died, not the husband.) It was a family stone, though, and I convinced her to give it to her brother-in-law.
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