Ahh! New thread smell!

Someone just misdialed and got my personal cell number.

Appearantly my number is very close to that of someone in the Center for Disease Control. I could have a lot of fun with that.

"Sorry ma'am, you mean you didn't get the e-mail? Look; just duct tape all of your doors and windows shut and wait patiently for the black van to show up out front. Whatever you do don't panic..."

Yhis Saturday, 2pm, San Diego Lizard Meetup in Mission Valley, email me for details, I'll send out something tonight with my cell number (I never remember it and left it at home)

Interesting historical fact about patterns of tobacco use among appalachians et al. Ever wonder why chewing tobacco and oral snuff are the modes of preference there?

Same reason they were in Cornwall and anywhere else where folks mined. People needed their nic fixes but didn't dare make a fire/

Doppleganglander- any word on your son?

re: #3 DaddyG

Someone just misdialed and got my personal cell number.

Appearantly my number is very close to that of someone in the Center for Disease Control. I could have a lot of fun with that.

"Sorry ma'am, you mean you didn't get the e-mail? Look; just duct tape all of your doors and windows shut and wait patiently for the black van to show up out front. Whatever you do don't panic..."

My office number at Camp Lejeune was almost the same as the base golf course. We gave up and just scheduled tee times for people

So, I bought a new router last night. It's a Netgear WNR2000. I don't know why we bought a new router. It's black and shiny with lots of blinking lights. I got it installed with little problem. I haven't noticed a difference except for the power adapter being less noisy.

re: #5 Guanxi88

Interesting historical fact about patterns of tobacco use among appalachians et al. Ever wonder why chewing tobacco and oral snuff are the modes of preference there?

Same reason they were in Cornwall and anywhere else where folks mined. People needed their nic fixes but didn't dare make a fire/

They were content to destroy their lungs only with coal dust, and didn't need an assist from the tobacco smoke.

And the latest polls show that America is suffering from "voters' remorse". Obama still has high approval rating and the majority of the poll takers believe our country, while tanking, is headed in the right direction... AP writes a wonderfully, love-filled article on our current President. Obama however, has given himself 3 years to make the hopey changey happen. It's gonna be a long three years.

re: #8 ConservatismNow!

So, I bought a new router last night. It's a Netgear WNR2000. I don't know why we bought a new router. It's black and shiny with lots of blinking lights. I got it installed with little problem. I haven't noticed a difference except for the power adapter being less noisy.

Did you change the default username and password for administration?

omg, Ben you gotta check out the pic a few scrolls down here:

[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

Poor Myrtle Beach, burning. Anyone here have an eyewitness account?

re: #8 ConservatismNow!

I hate routers. They are finger eaters, second only to planers. I'm happy to stick to hand tools but I work on pretty small stuff most of the time.

re: #12 turn

ha "Editor's correction -- after studying that picture for a few hours, I believe that's the CN Tower."

I should have said "voter's denial"

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Did you change the default username and password for administration?

I'm not telling you anything.

Since it is speak like Shakespeare day, here's a good quote:

Indeed, it is a strange disposed time:
But men may construe things after their fashion,
Clean from the purpose of the things themselves.
-Cicero (Julius Caesar)

re: #6 DaddyG

Doppleganglander- any word on your son?

Not yet. Thanks for asking. I'm lurking here to keep my sanity and I'll post as soon as I hear anything.

re: #8 ConservatismNow!

So, I bought a new router last night. It's a Netgear WNR2000. I don't know why we bought a new router. It's black and shiny with lots of blinking lights. I got it installed with little problem. I haven't noticed a difference except for the power adapter being less noisy.

I got one of them Airport Extremes.

Plugged it in, and was surfing the Web at high speed within 45 seconds.

Haven't had to turn it off or reset it since then, and that was two years ago.

Probably the simplest and most reliable computer peripheral I've ever bought.

re: #6 DaddyG

Doppleganglander...I just learned of your son's emergency, I pray that all is well.

re: #18 Honorary Yooper

Since it is speak like Shakespeare day, here's a good quote:

Indeed, it is a strange disposed time:
But men may construe things after their fashion,
Clean from the purpose of the things themselves.
-Cicero (Julius Caesar)

Friends, Romans, countrymen, let me your ears...

What do you have there?

A bag of ears!

- Wayne and Shuster

re: #21 Fluffy Bunny

Doppleganglander...I just learned of your son's emergency, I pray that all is well.

Thanks, FB. I also read about your numerous medical tests on the overnight thread and you're in my prayers as well.

Daddy G, how did you even know I was here?!

re: #8 ConservatismNow!

So, I bought a new router last night. It's a Netgear WNR2000. I don't know why we bought a new router. It's black and shiny with lots of blinking lights. I got it installed with little problem. I haven't noticed a difference except for the power adapter being less noisy.

Also: the Airport Extreme is completely silent.

re: #9 zombie

They were content to destroy their lungs only with coal dust, and didn't need an assist from the tobacco smoke.

EH, those miners were always heavy 'baccy users, but they adapted their consumption methods based on where they were. Oral use of tobacco was fine in a mine, as there was little need for the danger of making yet another fire or spark down there (incidentally, the same reason why the British navy, and indeed sailors of all nations, adopted the use of chewing tobacco and snuff instead of pipes when aboard ship).

Just saw that they've determined what killed those 21 polo ponies. Mix-up in their vitamins (probably selenium). So incredibly tragic.

Even a head wind is better than none.

No! Ban fascist headwinds!

re: #26 SalsaNChips

Just saw that they've determined what killed those 21 polo ponies. Mix-up in their vitamins (probably selenium). So incredibly tragic.

It never ceases to amaze me how delicate those huge powerful animals really are.

re: #26 SalsaNChips

Just saw that they've determined what killed those 21 polo ponies. Mix-up in their vitamins (probably selenium). So incredibly tragic.

I saw that. Some intern at a pharmacy mis-read the prescription and ended up killing 21 gorgeous horses simply by putting the wrong ratio of ingredients in their shots. I'd feel guilty for the rest of my life.

re: #24 zombie

Also: the Airport Extreme is completely silent.

That's always nice. When I used my old router I thought the noise was coming from my UPS, but it turned out to be the AC adapter for the router. After I swapped out routers, there was no problem.

re: #10 Maui Girl

And the latest polls show that America is suffering from "voters' remorse". Obama still has high approval rating and the majority of the poll takers believe our country, while tanking, is headed in the right direction... AP writes a wonderfully, love-filled article on our current President. Obama however, has given himself 3 years to make the hopey changey happen. It's gonna be a long three years.

There's a lot of O-love linked on Drudge Report today. Some of it written by O's own aides.

re: #23 doppelganglander

Thanks, FB. I also read about your numerous medical tests on the overnight thread and you're in my prayers as well.

Daddy G, how did you even know I was here?!

I'm with the government. /

(Just guessed you would be if you were still in town).

re: #13 alegrias

Poor Myrtle Beach, burning. Anyone here have an eyewitness account?

We're a tinderbox in south Texas. Wind here now are out of the SE at 25mph, gusting to 45mph.
"The Weather Channel" would call these hurricane force winds...global warming La Nina style.

re: #19 doppelganglander

Not yet. Thanks for asking. I'm lurking here to keep my sanity and I'll post as soon as I hear anything.

Just got an email reply from Goddess.
She knows, is praying, and will add to the prayer list.

OK ... so now I'm gonna find out how many 'transactions' there are on this here LGF thing from the time I insert this here message and then exit the comment area to see how many (from the present 17) comments get posted. OK here goes. 12:31:50

re: #28 turn

It never ceases to amaze me how delicate those huge powerful animals really are.

* * *
An overdose is an overdose.

Not sure why vets have do inject "vitamins" before a polo match, instead of just feeding the horses right to begin with. Any polo horse owners/players here?

You shouldn't have.

It's a strange thing:

I mean, here we are, with a man about whom we know little, and that little we do know very disturbing, at the helm of a nation, trying to steer us to safety by sailing full speed into the sand-bar while throwing navigational equipment and cargo overboard to allow us to take on more water. And everything else that goes with all that.

And all I can think to do is to try to figure out why coal miners dip snuff.

Spent like 20 minutes in a panic earlier. Couldn't find my car insurance, registration or base permit. I kept it in the glove compartment and it wasn't there. So I'm digging thru the car and I'm reaching around looking under the seat when I feel an envelope. It had slid out of the back of the glove compartment and was stuck behind the dash. Popped right out, but I was going nuts for a while there.

“A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it.” —GK Chesterton

re: #38 Guanxi88

Survival mode?

Let no man wax pale, therefore, because of opposition.

Let no man wax at all!

*mutter...darn metrosexuals...grumble*

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I ALWAYS keep my keys in my right front pocket. About once a year, they somehow end up in the left. Which causes about 2 seconds of panic until I find them.

Asinine CNN Polls.

Do you believe chewing gum can improve school grades?
()Yes
()No

No, but I do believe it can plug a few holes.

re: #34 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just got an email reply from Goddess.
She knows, is praying, and will add to the prayer list.

Thank you so much.

re: #32 DaddyG

I guess it's not that much of a leap, considering how much I'm here anyway. We decided it would be prudent to wait for more information before driving nearly 700 miles.

re: #42 scottishbuzzsaw

Let no man wax at all!

*mutter...darn metrosexuals...grumble*

The quick passage of that fad probably had a lot to do with a really low level of repeat business for men at waxing parlors.

re: #33 jorline

We're a tinderbox in south Texas. Wind here now are out of the SE at 25mph, gusting to 45mph.
"The Weather Channel" would call these hurricane force winds...global warming La Nina style.

I can give you a little help here. "La" Nina, means "The" Nina.

re: #41 Fluffy Bunny

Survival mode?

Possible. Still, I find myself more and more interested in the details of daily life during the 30's, particularly among rural and appalachian folk. Maybe it's the zeitgeist at work on me, but then, I've always had an interest in the period, and in coal mining (what brought my family here) in particular. Sitting on the corner of my desk at home is an old carbide miner's lamp, complete with flint and reflector. On the book-case, my great grandfather's tin lunch bucket, from his days as a miner. A full set of the FoxFire books nearby.

Strange, indeed, my state of mind.

A great pic on Iowahawk's site:

"I also added some shots of another car I built called FRANKENCOUGIE... Plus a pic of the sears tower."

Editor's correction -- after studying that picture for a few hours, I believe that's the CN Tower.

Here's the exact link.

I gotta' get ready for a meeting with The Kid's teacher and principal. He is on in-school suspension for popping one of his best buddies on the jaw for picking on another kid. While I admire his standing up against bullying, I am furious with him for hitting. He knows better.

re: #42 scottishbuzzsaw

Let no man wax at all!

*mutter...darn metrosexuals...grumble*

When wax
pulls bax
in-tax
and nothing stux
Burma Shave

re: #36 alegrias

* * *
An overdose is an overdose.

Not sure why vets have do inject "vitamins" before a polo match, instead of just feeding the horses right to begin with. Any polo horse owners/players here?

Yeah, I posted without reading the article. I didn't know it was a shot, I thought they gave them vitamins in their feed. Statement still stands though, people I work with have horses and one of them had a horse that died from an ailment it got from the shock of moving to a new pasture. They are delicate.

re: #45 doppelganglander I'm embarassed to say I leave the current thread up on my desktop when I'm in the office and comment between e-mails, memos and documents. I figured most other lizards do something similar.

re: #12 turn

omg, Ben you gotta check out the pic a few scrolls down here:

[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

You mean the one of the Seattle Needle thing?

Note the name given by Clinton to her address before Congress yesterday:

National Security Through Diplomacy

[Link: www.state.gov...]

Once upon time, the lesson of WWII was "Peace through Stength".
This administration is not in pre-911 mindset, it's in a pre-WWI mindset.
Obama isn't Jimmy Carter- he's Woodrow Wilson.

re: #47 debutaunt

I can give you a little help here. "La" Nina, means "The" Nina.

But do you know the French word for souffle?

re: #12 turn

omg, Ben you gotta check out the pic a few scrolls down here:

[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

Unless you meant another Ben.

re: #54 Ben Hur

yeah, how could you tell?
/

re: #49 jwb7605 Poor misshappen thing is going to have back problems. /

re: #3 DaddyG

Someone just misdialed and got my personal cell number.

Appearantly my number is very close to that of someone in the Center for Disease Control. I could have a lot of fun with that.

"Sorry ma'am, you mean you didn't get the e-mail? Look; just duct tape all of your doors and windows shut and wait patiently for the black van to show up out front. Whatever you do don't panic..."

Just tell them you're surprised to hear that they're still alive.
/ Kind of a repeat of my crack from the last thread...

re: #53 DaddyG

I'm embarassed to say I leave the current thread up on my desktop when I'm in the office and comment between e-mails, memos and documents. I figured most other lizards do something similar.

I do it too. I work at home and this is the closest thing to having friends elsewhere in the cube farm that I can chat with on breaks.

re: #50 MandyManners

I gotta' get ready for a meeting with The Kid's teacher and principal. He is on in-school suspension for popping one of his best buddies on the jaw for picking on another kid. While I admire his standing up against bullying, I am furious with him for hitting. He knows better.

That's something that I'm going to have a hard time reconciling when I become a parent. Sometimes violence is okay. We know this. The important part is knowing when you use it.

re: #59 DaddyG

Poor misshappen thing is going to have back problems. /

Nothing a little bed rest can't fix.

re: #44 jorline

Asinine CNN Polls.

No, but I do believe it can plug a few holes.

It's a trap!

They released a study today that it does help while taking exams!

re: #58 turn

yeah, how could you tell?
/

Total photoshop.

That thing is much taller.

And Dop ... prayers for you and your son.

Bummer about Myrtle Beach. Hope everyone and every thing is insured to the hilt. But losing stuff in a fire just sucks.

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But do you know the French word for souffle?

I can tell you it comes from the word for "breath." Walter's not the only one here who speaks French.

re: #49 jwb7605

wow, I guess we're both thinking big today. ha

Or as Abraham Lincoln once said when asked how to be successful in politics: "Raise a cause that gives rise to an effect, and then fight the effect."

re: #65 Ben Hur

Total photoshop.

That thing is much taller.

LOL

re: #63 Guanxi88 ...and the #1 answer is...

re: #54 Ben Hur

You mean the one of the Seattle Needle thing?

Maybe, I got distracted (moderately NSFW)

re: #50 MandyManners

I gotta' get ready for a meeting with The Kid's teacher and principal. He is on in-school suspension for popping one of his best buddies on the jaw for picking on another kid. While I admire his standing up against bullying, I am furious with him for hitting. He knows better.

Be proud.

Be happy he wasn't the one being bullied.

re: #65 Ben Hur

Total photoshop.

That thing is much taller more erect.

FIFY

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But do you know the French word for souffle?

Indeed, it comes with a very cute accent.

bbl

re: #75 debutaunt

Indeed, it comes with a very cute accent.

"Can you tell me where the restroom is?"

"Oui, Oui."

"No, I just need to freshen up."

re: #67 doppelganglander

I can tell you it comes from the word for "breath." Walter's not the only one here who speaks French.

English adopted it: He insufflated mournfully.

Dorothy Dunnett used that in, I think The Disorderly Knights, introducing Joletta Reid Mallett.

Myrtle Beach was the place to be when I was growing up. First week at the beach, beach music, the shag...great memories!

re: #49 jwb7605

A great pic on Iowahawk's site:

Here's the exact link.

Someone once wrote an investigative report on that photo (seriously -- it's a pretty famous picture). Turns out it is NOT a photoshop -- the girl really is endowed like that. Some blogger tracked down the original photo, and also other photos taken that day. Someone had once put it online with an arrow pointing to the tower, and she became an instant internet meme. Usually the caption is something like, "Wow -- they sure have tall buildings in Canada!"

I wonder is the girl herself is aware of the hubbub she created. (Though she probably creates a hubbub every time she walks down the street, so she's probably used to it.)

re: #73 Ben Hur

Be proud.

Be happy he wasn't the one being bullied.

I'm pissed that he hit. He knows he can go to an adult over this issue. He got into a mix-up at the park last summer for taking on some older kids who were picking on another kid. I thought I had drilled it into his head to go get an adult.

re: #79 Fluffy Bunny

Myrtle Beach was the place to be when I was growing up. First week at the beach, beach music, the shag...great memories!

I've never shagged on the beach. Doesn't that sand get into your groove?

re: #82 DaddyG

I've never shagged on the beach. Doesn't that sand get into your groove?

It can cause a real rut.

re: #82 DaddyG

I've never shagged on the beach. Doesn't that sand get into your groove?

Well, you could bring a towel

re: #80 zombie

Someone once wrote an investigative report on that photo (seriously -- it's a pretty famous picture). Turns out it is NOT a photoshop -- the girl really is endowed like that. Some blogger tracked down the original photo, and also other photos taken that day. Someone had once put it online with an arrow pointing to the tower, and she became an instant internet meme. Usually the caption is something like, "Wow -- they sure have tall buildings in Canada!"

I wonder is the girl herself is aware of the hubbub she created. (Though she probably creates a hubbub every time she walks down the street, so she's probably used to it.)

What girl? I was trying to figure out whether that actually is the Sears Tower ...
///

re: #84 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, you could bring a towel

That's a pearl right there. Make sure you bring a towel.

re: #86 ConservatismNow!

That's a pearl right there. Make sure you bring a towel.

and Don't Panic!

re: #82 DaddyG

Almost forgot...it has a totally different meaning across the pond! In South Carolina it is the state dance.**blush**

re: #73 Ben Hur

Be proud.

Be happy he wasn't the one being bullied.

And, yes, I'm proud of him for sticking up for others. It shows his heart is in the right place. Now I just gotta' get his brain in the right place.

re: #88 Fluffy Bunny

Almost forgot...it has a totally different meaning across the pond! In South Carolina it is the state dance.**blush**

Its still means the same thing, just depends on if your horizontal or vertical.

re: #80 zombie

I didn't know that. When I was looking at the photo I was wondering how women like that go about handling men gawking at them. Do they feel flattered or embarrassed? That's a rhetorical question zomb, that is unless you want to answer.

Only wimps need a towel! ; )

re: #89 MandyManners

Good luck with that.
I still haven't got it figgered out after 50 years and 3 kids.

re: #22 Mithrax

"Everybody says Shakespeare's so great. Well how come nobody's ever heard of him?"

-Moe Phelps, Mr. Show

Even a head wind is better than none.

Not when you are walking.

Alex Jones is a white power type? We saw his name/show on the VB/WP Euro discovery tour last year?

Re creationism, it is occurring to me that the DI's effort to put creationism in the science curriculum would be like a Jewish organization wanting the schools to put curriculum into a hydraulics class that says, "This hydraulics is just a theory... another theory is that a sea can be separated to let people walk across on dry land by raising the staff..." Really, parents have to be constantly finding out what the schools are telling the kids and giving accurate reasoning where necessary. We do this every every day.

re: #37 FrogMarch

You shouldn't have.

The book Obama received form Chavez was called something like "Latin America the Pillage of a Continent." This might be a stupid question but is Latin America a continent? I thought it is part of North America.

re: #88 Fluffy Bunny

Almost forgot...it has a totally different meaning across the pond! In South Carolina it is the state dance.**blush**

I'm in Georgia, but it didn't keep me from taking advantage of the straight line. Hee Hee.

re: #93 Van Helsing

Good luck with that.
I still haven't got it figgered out after 50 years and 3 kids.

It kept me awake last night.

re: #78 Dianna

English adopted it: He insufflated mournfully.

Dorothy Dunnett used that in, I think The Disorderly Knights, introducing Joletta Reid Mallett.

That's a nifty word. And may I take the opportunity to wish you luck with your rewrites. I admire your determination. My novel is still enjoying its comfy home in my head. I can't wait to go to the bookstore and say "I know her! Well, in an anonymous, Internet sort of way..."

I posted the following response to one of the "science" articles posted upstairs. Since this is an open thread, and I am working from home today, I would love to share my knowledge of the field with anyone who is interested in talking about the science.

I have said many times that the political and financial interest groups dominate the AGW "debate" that exists in the MSM and the blogosphere, whereas the science is actually pretty well understood and consensus has been pretty firmly established in the legitimate scientific community. I have no love of the moonbats who would try to hijack the science for their political ends, but I don't see many of those here. Here I see the other side.

Everything you need to know is from who the Fraser Institute says they are.

Our vision is a free and prosperous world where individuals benefit from greater choice, competitive markets, and personal responsibility. Our mission is to measure, study, and communicate the impact of competitive markets and government interventions on the welfare of individuals.
Founded in 1974, we are an independent research and educational
organization with locations throughout North America and international
partners in over 70 countries. Our work is financed by tax-deductible contributions from thousands of individuals, organizations, and foundations. In
order to protect its independence, the Institute does not accept grants from
government or contracts for research.

In other words, they are a corporately funded, financially motivated, non-scientific institution. Can you say Tobacco Institute? Scientific institutions do not have "mission statements, or "visions" or any other of that corp-speak drivel. We scientists don't out source our thinking to other assets.

On the other side of the dispute is the NAS (National Academy of Science), APS (American Physical Society), NASA, NOAA and the legitimate scientific community - who were not hired by interest group think tanks.

Since so much of the "skeptic" side is like dealing with the Disco institute, nothing you say gets acknowledged...

I have the following questions for any of the dogmatic "skeptics" out there.

1. CO2, Methane and Water vapor are known greenhouse gasses. Since there are gigatons more of them in the atmosphere than ever before recorded, how can you claim that they have no effect? By what mechanism would there be no effect? Direct measurements of these gasses confirming the concentration has been made optically and chemically at many places around the world. This is not in dispute. How is it doing nothing?

2. If you had huge GHG concentrations, you would believe that the Earth would get more warm. The Earth is getting more warm. We see currents shifting, global mean temperatures rising and the polar caps melting. THis is also directly confirmed by direct observation. Would you please explain to me how Ice caps that were stable for tens of thousands of years, start to go rapidly, in a period of decades (much faster than any natural geological process) by a "natural" geological process? Mumbling something you may have heard about the sun does not count. Since I am a physicist, I want actual science. Give me mechanisms. Please tell me how you think that works.

3. The carbon sink is a lot smaller than it used to be. Please tell me, how massive algae deaths in the ocean coupled with massive deforestation would have no effect on the balance either? How much CO2 was eaten by plants that are no longer there? Why would that not affect the balance?

4. How do you ignore feedbacks?

Talking to the hard core believing "Al Gore! DAMN IT!" screaming "skeptics," is painful for a scientist. They believe what they want to believe independent of the science. No amount of data you wave at them gets through. So, I am now asking the questions directly.

If you honestly believe that nothing is happening, you should be able to answer those three questions in a scientific, non slogan laden manner.

re: #81 MandyManners

I'm pissed that he hit. He knows he can go to an adult over this issue. He got into a mix-up at the park last summer for taking on some older kids who were picking on another kid. I thought I had drilled it into his head to go get an adult.

They can't depend on the adults because the adults are afraid to stand up to the kids and insist on civilized and courteous behavior. This same type of thing happened to one of my kids. She defended the smaller kid, but didn't hit. Later got trounced by an older kid. The school did nothing ever. The kids need to learn the non-marking nerve take-down methods...

re: #91 turn

I didn't know that. When I was looking at the photo I was wondering how women like that go about handling men gawking at them. Do they feel flattered or embarrassed? That's a rhetorical question zomb, that is unless you want to answer.

"My eyes are up here."

re: #97 KenJen

The book Obama received form Chavez was called something like "Latin America the Pillage of a Continent." This might be a stupid question but is Latin America a continent? I thought it is part of North America.

Mexico & Central America are part of North America, while South America is well, South America. All are considered Latin America.

re: #81 MandyManners

I'm pissed that he hit. He knows he can go to an adult over this issue. He got into a mix-up at the park last summer for taking on some older kids who were picking on another kid. I thought I had drilled it into his head to go get an adult.

Sometimes you have to fight.

/John Rambo. Rambo, what like, 25 or something?

re: #91 turn

I didn't know that. When I was looking at the photo I was wondering how women like that go about handling men gawking at them. Do they feel flattered or embarrassed? That's a rhetorical question zomb, that is unless you want to answer.

Well, usually I wear loose clothing and a big coat if possible to cover up my assets, which are similar in dimension to those in the photo -- so I'm not able to answer your question, since I go to great lengths to cover up anything gawk-worthy.

re: #106 zombie

Well, usually I wear loose clothing and a big coat if possible to cover up my assets, which are similar in dimension to those in the photo -- so I'm not able to answer your question, since I go to great lengths to cover up anything gawk-worthy.

So you're not Inflated Scrotum Man.

Gotta' go meet the teacher and the dragon...er...principal. bbl

re: #99 MandyManners

It kept me awake last night.

He's going to make mistakes - the good news is he made this one for the right reasons and not a selfish one. The zero tolerence stuff on kids fighting drives me crazy. They are going to scuffle, as long as it isn't really harmful they need to learn to deal with it without big brother coming down on them like a ton of bricks. That just opens up the playing field for the bullies who are subtle enough to keep it under the radar.

Having said that these mistakes and lapses in judgement are the opportunities to teach him better and civilize him. IMO that is a parents job not the schools.

re: #108 MandyManners

Gotta' go meet the teacher and the dragon...er...principal. bbl

Best wishes, Mandy. I'm lucky, in that my children are all perfect, each of them the pinnacle of perfection in every possible way, and so I'll never have any problems of any sort with any of them.

re: #104 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Mexico & Central America are part of North America, while South America is well, South America. All are considered Latin America.

So it was a stupid question? Thanks for the geography lesson.

re: #107 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So you're not Inflated Scrotum Man.

Zombie said, "similar dimensions" but not which body parts.

Could mean his balls, no?

re: #99 MandyManners

I was always kind of old school with that. If you can't get an adult to stop the problem, deal with it.

Be darned sure you are right and I'll back you up.

Probably old news here, but an interesting read:
The Real Jane Harman scandal

re: #110 Guanxi88

Best wishes, Mandy. I'm lucky, in that my children are all perfect, each of them the pinnacle of perfection in every possible way, and so I'll never have any problems of any sort with any of them.

Either that was missing a sarc tag, or the rose tinted glasses are working splendidly. ;)

re: #111 KenJen

So it was a stupid question? Thanks for the geography lesson.

One who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes, one who does not is a fool forever.

Ancient Chinese/African/Indian/other Third World proverb

re: #112 Ben Hur

Zombie said, "similar dimensions" but not which body parts.

Could mean his balls, no?

Huge earlobes. Wears a lot of hats. /

re: #103 Dianna

"My eyes are up here."

In other words neither flattered nor embarrassed but pissed they don't look at you as a person but instead just a sexual object?

re: #115 MrSilverDragon

Either that was missing a sarc tag, or the rose tinted glasses are working splendidly. ;)

Both.

re: #101 LudwigVanQuixote

Show me where the computer models have matched reality.

Done!

re: #117 DaddyG

Huge earlobes. Wears a lot of hats. /

Lip-plate, maybe?

re: #112 Ben Hur

Zombie said, "similar dimensions" but not which body parts.

Could mean his balls, no?

Perhaps it's that ESS problem from Johnny Dangerously.

re: #103 Dianna

"My eyes are up here."

But, Darlin', yore eyes don't wobble to and fro like that when you walk.

re: #101 LudwigVanQuixote

All you have to do is say, "Fraser Institute" and (all watcher/viewers of CBC or for that matter most Canadians) we say, "Right wing think tank!" (It's based in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada). It's a right-wing policy institute (and i don't think it pretends to be "scholarly." (?) it just offers a different point of view or raises questions...usually dismissed by most up here.)

re: #109 DaddyG

He's going to make mistakes - the good news is he made this one for the right reasons and not a selfish one. The zero tolerence stuff on kids fighting drives me crazy. They are going to scuffle, as long as it isn't really harmful they need to learn to deal with it without big brother coming down on them like a ton of bricks. That just opens up the playing field for the bullies who are subtle enough to keep it under the radar.

Having said that these mistakes and lapses in judgement are the opportunities to teach him better and civilize him. IMO that is a parents job not the schools.

Zero tolerance misses a valuable lesson. When is violence acceptable? Instead, both the aggressor and defender are treated the same. Zero tolerance at school gets you a population that stands by why innocent people are attacked, raped and killed by the predators in society. They stand by while waiting for the principal (police) to show up. It teaches the predators among us that predation and defense are the same thing. That victims are helpless until the principal shows up.

Zero tolerance is a bad idea for a whole lot of reasons.

re: #122 ArchangelMichael

Perhaps it's that ESS problem from Johnny Dangerously.

The testes are like a balloon. Sometimes, they are empty. Sometimes, they are full. And, sometimes, they can explode."

Great scene.

re: #110 Guanxi88

each of them the pinnacle of perfection in every possible way, and so I'll never have any problems of any sort with any of them.

Valium is a marvelous thing...

re: #106 zombie

Well, usually I wear loose clothing and a big coat if possible to cover up my assets, which are similar in dimension to those in the photo -- so I'm not able to answer your question, since I go to great lengths to cover up anything gawk-worthy.

Neither flattered nor embarrassed but uncomfortable then. Obviously that gal was flaunting so turns guessing she liked the attention.

Part of the opposition to power is the press, but that's something the MSM won't do when it comes to Obama. MSNBC was supposedly told to lay off criticizing Obama by GE execs, that was the premise of the O'Reilly ambush.

re: #115 MrSilverDragon

Either that was missing a sarc tag, or the rose tinted glasses are working splendidly. ;)

Or the really good drugs have kicked in...

;-P

re: #127 IslandLibertarian

each of them the pinnacle of perfection in every possible way, and so I'll never have any problems of any sort with any of them.

Valium is a marvelous thing...

You offering?

re: #130 talon_262

Or the really good drugs have kicked in...

;-P

You offering?

Just asking; not that I'd want anything, but, if you were...

re: #118 turn

In other words neither flattered nor embarrassed but pissed they don't look at you as a person but instead just a sexual object?

That works until about age 40, then they get pissed at you for not noticing that they are sexual objects. //ducks

re: #125 jcm

Zero tolerance misses a valuable lesson. When is violence acceptable? Instead, both the aggressor and defender are treated the same. Zero tolerance at school gets you a population that stands by why innocent people are attacked, raped and killed by the predators in society. They stand by while waiting for the principal (police) to show up. It teaches the predators among us that predation and defense are the same thing. That victims are helpless until the principal shows up.

Zero tolerance is a bad idea for a whole lot of reasons.

One should always keep in mind that police do not so much prevent crime as collect crime statistics.

re: #120 Van Helsing

Show me where the computer models have matched reality.

Done!

OK...
[Link: www.gfdl.noaa.gov...]

Now, answer my questions. You are not done.

re: #85 jwb7605

CN Tower in Toronto. And yes, there are many pretty Canadian women, which you only can observe when the weather warms up, or they're vacationing down in Florida.

re: #123 razorbacker

But, Darlin', yore eyes don't wobble to and fro like that when you walk.

LOL

re: #124 J.S.

All you have to do is say, "Fraser Institute" and (all watcher/viewers of CBC or for that matter most Canadians) we say, "Right wing think tank!" (It's based in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada). It's a right-wing policy institute (and i don't think it pretends to be "scholarly." (?) it just offers a different point of view or raises questions...usually dismissed by most up here.)

Thanks J.S.

Unfortunately many people here in the U.S. so desperately want to believe that there is no AGW that they will quote these guys as scholarly. There are Discovery Institutes for AGW too.

re: #103 Dianna

"My eyes are up here."

I find that staring back at their crotch and snickering is effective.

In Obama's case the wind is a straw wind made up of liberal gas...

re: #134 razorbacker

One should always keep in mind that police do not so much prevent crime as collect crime statistics.

Or as the saying goes...

When seconds count... the police are minutes away.

re: #139 Russkilitlover

I find that staring back at their crotch and snickering is effective.

Laugh it up, laugh it up!

re: #139 Russkilitlover

I find that staring back at their crotch and snickering is effective.

All the ladies go crazy for my sugarlumps

...are those anything like salty chocolate balls?

re: #134 razorbacker

One should always keep in mind that police do not so much prevent crime as collect crime statistics.

Crime prevention is number two on their list of priorities

re: #144 DaddyG

...are those anything like salty chocolate balls?

Chef? I thought you were dead?

re: #118 turn

In other words neither flattered nor embarrassed but pissed they don't look at you as a person but instead just a sexual object?

I'm going to answer that with a rock-solid "it depends".

For one thing, I think it's very culturally-specific. As a sweeping generalization, for instance, Latin women are less likely to have a negative reaction to being ogled than are gringas.

And for another thing, it's very woman-specific. Some women don't mind, or even enjoy getting checked out (depending on who's doing it, the circumstances, etc.); others, less so. But I'll ask the ladies on the thread... doesn't every woman enjoy it at least in some circumstances? A guy you yourself think is attractive gives you a "wow, you're beautiful!" look and a smile?

75 Killed in Iraq Blasts

Two major suicide bombings in Iraq have claimed the lives of at least 75 people, one of the most violent days in the country in more than a year.

In the deadliest attack Thursday, a bomber detonated explosives in a restaurant in Muqdadiya in Diyala province. Police say at least 47 people were killed, many of them Iranian Shi'ite pilgrims.

re: #146 Guanxi88

Chef? I thought you were dead?

His Thetan is with L Ron...

re: #135 LudwigVanQuixote
Well, we can start with this.Temperature measured how?

re: #147 Occasional Reader

I'm going to answer that with a rock-solid "it depends".

For one thing, I think it's very culturally-specific. As a sweeping generalization, for instance, Latin women are less likely to have a negative reaction to being ogled than are gringas.

And for another thing, it's very woman-specific. Some women don't mind, or even enjoy getting checked out (depending on who's doing it, the circumstances, etc.); others, less so. But I'll ask the ladies on the thread... doesn't every woman enjoy it at least in some circumstances? A guy Girl you yourself think is attractive gives you a "wow, you're beautiful!" look and a smile?

Happens to me all the time

re: #148 jcm

75 Killed in Iraq Blasts

The jihadists are certainly feeling their oats lately.

Gosh, I wonder why.

re: #101 LudwigVanQuixote

The must-hate-on-AlGore syndrome tends to drown out any serious discussion of science on AGW.

As an example of what you pointed out about scientists' and consensus, right now the European Geophysical Union is having its large annual meeting. Simply looking through the abstracts posted of the talks and posters one finds no evidence of the supposed end of AGW that organizations like Heartland, Cato etc like to trumpet.

It is not surprising that the general electorate/populace is not aware of what highly specialized scientists do in their everyday research. Still, it is sad that so many politically and ideologically motivated groups and politicians exploit that.

re: #2 taxfreekiller

Snow Friday to Monday Central Rocky Mountain area.

[Link: www.nws.noaa.gov...]

It has been snowing here (east of the rockies by a centemeter on the map) since this morning. It dropped 10 degrees in an hour and my tulips are going to freeze.

damn global warming!

re: #151 HoosierHoops

Happens to me all the time

Denzel? Is that you?

re: #148 jcm

75 Killed in Iraq Blasts

Dammit! Dammit!

These freaking beasts just won't lay off, will they? There's not one day of the year when they can or will stay their hand from committing some atrocity against women and children, is there? There's never a wrong time for them to send shrapnel through the flesh of innocents, is there?

re: #147 Occasional Reader

I think they do, I didn't think daddyg's 133 was far off the mark either.

re: #101 LudwigVanQuixote

Here's one of my main problems:

The United States and Europe already have very stringent air-pollution regulations and controls. 2009 is not like 1880 in Pittsburgh and Manchester with factories spewing out gases unmonitored. We have laws that severely limit emissions. And those laws are enforced. Yet in China, not only do they not have anything like the air-pollution control that we do, but there is massive corruption and law-ignoring going on anyway. On top of that, most of the world's manufacturing have been moved to China, and away from the U.S. and Europe. The end result seems to be that the vast majority of the air pollution, including greenhouse gases, is coming from China, and other places with mostly unregulated air pollution, like India. AND YET, it is the US and Europe that are being most agressively targetted by the Kyoto Accords and similar proposed international agreements -- with places like China and India are mostly let off the hook.

Furthermore, deforestation and massive intentionally set land-clearing forest fires in Indonesia and Brazil specifically are also a major major contributor to the pollution/AGW problem, and also are beyond our control and not our fault.

Every single person in the US could live naked in caves, and eat nothing but berries, and breathe into plastic bags and bury our breath underground so as to not hurt the atmosphere and STILL most of the pollution on the planet would continue to be spewed out unchanged, because it seems that most of the problem is not coming from the already well-regulated and environmentally conscious developed nations like the US, but from China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, and other places.

Even granted your assertion that humans are THE prime factor in climate change, the wrong parts of the planet are being targeted. This is where the politics comes into play. If the Kyoto Accords and similar treaties fairly targeted China and other developing nations as well as the developed nations, and if the mutually agreed economic slowdown was applied to all nations equally and fairly, then I wouldn't have so much of a problem with it. Instead, it seems like the developed nations were purposely targeted specifically as a way to damage their economies, as a way to boost the economies and political power of "developing" nations. A sort of hemispherical revenge.

I have other problems, but let's start with that one.

re: #104 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Mexico & Central America are part of North America, while South America is well, South America. All are considered Latin America.

Uh, Central America is Central America, not part of North America. Canada, the Continental US, and Mexico are North America.

re: #147 Occasional Reader

I'm going to answer that with a rock-solid "it depends".

For one thing, I think it's very culturally-specific. As a sweeping generalization, for instance, Latin women are less likely to have a negative reaction to being ogled than are gringas.

And for another thing, it's very woman-specific. Some women don't mind, or even enjoy getting checked out (depending on who's doing it, the circumstances, etc.); others, less so. But I'll ask the ladies on the thread... doesn't every woman enjoy it at least in some circumstances? A guy you yourself think is attractive gives you a "wow, you're beautiful!" look and a smile?

Or as my dear wife once said, "I saw the way that girl smiled at you."

"What? I'm a funny-looking guy!"

"She didn't smile like she was about to start laughing."

Some days, it didn't even pay to get out of bed in the first place.

re: #106 zombie

Well, usually I wear loose clothing and a big coat if possible to cover up my assets, which are similar in dimension to those in the photo -- so I'm not able to answer your question, since I go to great lengths to cover up anything gawk-worthy.

Large eyes to see everything that is going on and a very large brain to process all the garbage and inform us of "just the facts ma'am. Just the facts."

re: #147 Occasional Reader

I'm going to answer that with a rock-solid "it depends".

Depends on if the dude checking me out is worth checking out by me:)

re: #144 DaddyG

Do you like putting fishsticks in your mouth?

re: #148 jcm

75 Killed in Iraq Blasts

Man, there is just no end in sight it seems.

re: #156 Guanxi88

Dammit! Dammit!

These freaking beasts just won't lay off, will they? There's not one day of the year when they can or will stay their hand from committing some atrocity against women and children, is there? There's never a wrong time for them to send shrapnel through the flesh of innocents, is there?

rhetorical question.

re: #161 Steve

Large eyes to see everything that is going on and a very large brain to process all the garbage and inform us of "just the facts ma'am. Just the facts."

Jack Webb, we need you now more than ever.

re: #147 Occasional Reader
OR - I have a feeling the answer to that is very, very circumstantial.

re: #147 Occasional Reader

But I'll ask the ladies on the thread... doesn't every woman enjoy it at least in some circumstances? A guy you yourself think is attractive gives you a "wow, you're beautiful!" look and a smile?

Yes, absolutely. It can be creepy, though -- like the time bagger at the grocery store, who was my daughter's age, enjoyed carrying out my groceries a little too much.

Elevators go up and down, windshield wipers go back and forth.

Those are the two ways to ogle.

re: #163 Mad Al-Jaffee

Do you like putting fishsticks in your mouth?

Beats the alternatives places to stick them.

re: #85 jwb7605

What girl? I was trying to figure out whether that actually is the Sears Tower ...
///

Actual Sears Tower.

Actual Girl.

re: #107 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So you're not Inflated Scrotum Man.

Whenever I see pictures of that guy (actually, I guess there are several of them) I can't seem to get pellet guns out of my head.

re: #168 doppelganglander

Yes, absolutely. It can be creepy, though -- like the time bagger at the grocery store, who was my daughter's age, enjoyed carrying out my groceries a little too much.

It's a little secret,
Just the Robinsons' affair.
Most of all, you've got to hide it from the kids.

So much for the BNP's claims to have put racism behind them. It seems these oafs can't even control their own mouths:

BNP: Black Britons and Asian Britons ‘do not exist’

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

Nick Griffin, chair of the British National Party, has defended party literature which tells members that Asian Britons and black Britons “do not exist” and said that the attempt by a “liberal elite” to label such people as British amounts to a “bloodless genocide.”

re: #148 jcm

75 Killed in Iraq Blasts

Is it peroxide? Like London? or are they still using stockpiles?

re: #92 Fluffy Bunny

Only wimps need a towel! ; )

You're not a hoopy frood without one.

re: #117 DaddyG

Huge earlobes. Wears a lot of hats. /

How did you guess?

zombie's earlobes.

re: #158 zombie

Oh yeah, America emits more pollution per capita than China does.
/need I

re: #162 Eowyn2

Thank you for your honesty!

re: #154 Eowyn2

It dropped 10 degrees in an hour and my tulips are going to freeze.

Try chapstick. (Before you down ding me, remember I chose the clean version)

re: #176 CyanSnowHawk

You're not a hoopy frood without one.

Sass you that hoopy frood, Ford Prefect? He posts here from time to time.

Aren't ya'll thinking of this?

re: #178 turn

Oh yeah, America emits more pollution per capita than China does.
/need I

If The View was cancelled, it would drop by at least 4%

re: #163 Mad Al-Jaffee

Do you like putting fishsticks in your mouth?

I am NOT a gay fish. I am a genius.

re: #33 jorline

We're a tinderbox in south Texas. Wind here now are out of the SE at 25mph, gusting to 45mph.
"The Weather Channel" would call these hurricane force winds...global warming La Nina style.

Hang in there. That is a dangerous situation.

re: #174 Jimmah

BNP: Black Britons and Asian Britons ‘do not exist’

How about Britons with straight sparkling teeth? Did he exclude them too?

re: #160 razorbacker

Or as my dear wife once said, "I saw the way that girl smiled at you."

"What? I'm a funny-looking guy!"

"She didn't smile like she was about to start laughing."

Some days, it didn't even pay to get out of bed in the first place.

A confusing moment for me was when I was strolling through lower Manhattan with my wife, and she was thoroughly checked out, head to toe... by an atttractive woman. My interior reaction could be translated as "HEY! YOU! THAT'S COMPLETELY... hm... intriguing..."

Received a Alert email that the government is preparing a bankruptcy filing for Chrysler...

So, tell me again, why we wasted 6 months and Billions of dollars because we could not let them go bankrupt when in the end we ARE letting them go bankrupt?

Canadian Federal Court rules: Ottawa must press to repatriate Khadr

A Federal Court judge has ordered Ottawa to try to bring detained Canadian Omar Khadr back home from Guantanamo Bay.

“The ongoing refusal of Canada to request Mr. Khadr's repatriation to Canada offends a principle of fundamental justice and violates Mr. Khadr's rights,” Judge James W. O'Reilly O'Reilly said in his 43-page decision.

“To mitigate the effect of that violation, Canada must present a request to the United States for Mr. Khadr's repatriation as soon as practicable.”

Just. Fucking. Great.

re: #169 mich-again

Elevators go up and down, windshield wipers go back and forth.

Those are the two ways to ogle.

On Willie Wonke the elevators can go in any direction:-)

re: #80 zombie

Someone once wrote an investigative report on that photo (seriously -- it's a pretty famous picture). Turns out it is NOT a photoshop -- the girl really is endowed like that.

More likely engineered than endowed.

re: #173 Guanxi88

He used to be a grocery boy.

Now, thanks to doppelganglander, he's a grocery man.

/ducks

re: #156 Guanxi88

Dammit! Dammit!

These freaking beasts just won't lay off, will they? There's not one day of the year when they can or will stay their hand from committing some atrocity against women and children, is there? There's never a wrong time for them to send shrapnel through the flesh of innocents, is there?

Guy I know who did a couple of tours in Iraq. They are at a community meeting with the leaders in the area. Naturally the kids are out to see the Americans, and they brought goodies to hand out to the kids, candy, soccer balls, shoes. The guy I know sees a car coming and all his alarm bells light up.

He's standing with the area leaders with this car bearing down, the troops with the kids are off to his left. He and other are getting sighted in and he's looking at the driver of the car, the car is coming straight at him and the leaders. He's watching the driver of the car while he and others open fire and can see him look at the kids and look back at him and the leaders. The driver diverts the car away from the leaders and into the kids and detonates.

They prefer the blood of innocents the more innocent the better to them.

Meanwhile the guys who decided that a little water up a bad guys nose is permitted might get prosecuted. Some REMFs in DC need a reality check.

re: #188 tfc3rid

It is called Ineptitude. Get used to the word, especially as concerns many things that the US Government is involved with.

re: #188 tfc3rid

Received a Alert email that the government is preparing a bankruptcy filing for Chrysler...

So, tell me again, why we wasted 6 months and Billions of dollars because we could not let them go bankrupt when in the end we ARE letting them go bankrupt?

Because now our government has a stake in Chrysler and can get better terms from any judge for their unions. Bankruptcy judges are Federal, aren't they? Appointed by Federal agencies?

re: #172 SixDegrees

Whenever I see pictures of that guy (actually, I guess there are several of them) I can't seem to get pellet guns out of my head.

I think dart gun.

re: #185 aggieann

Hang in there. That is a dangerous situation.

extremely...fire in the west is scary as all hell unleashed...much of the NM high country is so far back there that if it burns it burns until God puts it out

re: #80 zombie

Someone once wrote an investigative report on that photo (seriously -- it's a pretty famous picture). Turns out it is NOT a photoshop -- the girl really is endowed like that. Some blogger tracked down the original photo, and also other photos taken that day. Someone had once put it online with an arrow pointing to the tower, and she became an instant internet meme. Usually the caption is something like, "Wow -- they sure have tall buildings in Canada!"

I wonder is the girl herself is aware of the hubbub she created. (Though she probably creates a hubbub every time she walks down the street, so she's probably used to it.)

I've also received that picture, minus the arrow, with a circulated email joke about a "resimay" for a woman applying for a secretarial job. The "resimay" tells you she's unqualified (horrible spelling and grammar), but then she adds, "I've a attached a picture of myself", which serves as the punchline.

re: #173 Guanxi88

It's a little secret,
Just the Robinsons' affair.
Most of all, you've got to hide it from the kids.

[Video]

What do you think I am, a middle school teacher?

re: #192 Occasional Reader

He used to be a grocery boy.

Now, thanks to doppelganglander, he's a grocery man.

/ducks

I was going to say something. I really was, but I won't in the name of decency

re: #177 zombie

How did you guess?

zombie's earlobes.

Pur.ty.

re: #188 tfc3rid

Received a Alert email that the government is preparing a bankruptcy filing for Chrysler...

So, tell me again, why we wasted 6 months and Billions of dollars because we could not let them go bankrupt when in the end we ARE letting them go bankrupt?

Because our beloved elected class is dumber than a box of rocks and no longer listen to the people the people they work for?

re: #159 Ward Cleaver

Uh, Central America is Central America, not part of North America. Canada, the Continental US, and Mexico are North America.

US and Canada are North America
Mexico is South Central North America
Everything between Mexico and Columbia/Bolivia is Itty Bitty America
The rest is South America

re: #158 zombie

Here's one of my main problems:

The United States and Europe already have very stringent air-pollution regulations and controls. 2009 is not like 1880 in Pittsburgh and Manchester with factories spewing out gases unmonitored. We have laws that severely limit emissions. And those laws are enforced. Yet in China, not only do they not have anything like the air-pollution control that we do, but there is massive corruption and law-ignoring going on anyway. On top of that, most of the world's manufacturing have been moved to China, and away from the U.S. and Europe. The end result seems to be that the vast majority of the air pollution, including greenhouse gases, is coming from China, and other places with mostly unregulated air pollution, like India. AND YET, it is the US and Europe that are being most agressively targetted by the Kyoto Accords and similar proposed international agreements -- with places like China and India are mostly let off the hook.

Furthermore, deforestation and massive intentionally set land-clearing forest fires in Indonesia and Brazil specifically are also a major major contributor to the pollution/AGW problem, and also are beyond our control and not our fault.

...

You raise very valid points. Before I adress them, I would like to point out that the political and economic discussion falls under the what are we going to do about it category and not the is this happening category.

I would like to establish that there is a big problem first - and there really is.

Now if I were king for a decade of so, I would do the following things...

1. Even though China and India are major polluters, we buy and finance through our purchases the industry that does the pollution. If we and Europe said that we would place tariffs on their goods until they met better standards we would impact them.

2. For a fraction of the cost of the bailout, we could have had many nuclear fission plants and laid the groundwork for real energy independence and the infrastructure for an electric vehicle fleet. This would keep billions of dollars in the US, out of the hands of people who hate us, create thousands of technical jobs and drastically reduce emissions without altering our lifestyle. It is possible to build reactors today that are physically incapable of melting down. Further, even though China and India don't give a damn, we are still one of the largest problems ourselves and every bit helps - though in our case if we did this it would be much more than a "bit" of help.

3. The other options are that by 2100 or so our economy completely collapses anyway because of the effects of coastline loss, loss of arable land and over population.

re: #187 Occasional Reader

A confusing moment for me was when I was strolling through lower Manhattan with my wife, and she was thoroughly checked out, head to toe... by an atttractive woman. My interior reaction could be translated as "HEY! YOU! THAT'S COMPLETELY... hm... intriguing..."

The moment I knew my wife was the woman for me. She catches me checking out another woman. Her reaction, "Nice tits."

re: #162 Eowyn2

...and the beautiful babe in the shorts and halter top says, "Hey you stupid nerd, stop stating at me! Only cute guys get to stare at me."

/never happened to me though...

re: #172 SixDegrees

Whenever I see pictures of that guy (actually, I guess there are several of them) I can't seem to get pellet guns out of my head.

oh shit, I thought inflated scrotum man was a joke earlier. Now I got to go google that, oh wait maybe that would be a bad idea too much stuff rolling around in my head as it is.

In all seriousness it kind of creeps me out when my wife points out that a young girl (the age of my daughters or near to it) checks me out. Of course I never seem to pick up on it myself, but it makes me feel like a dirty old man. What kind of vibe am I putting off that some young girl would actually want to check out my middle aged carcass. The creepiest of all was the Goth waitress who waited until my wife went to the ladies room to tell me she would really like to "cut me".

re: #155 Occasional Reader

Denzel? Is that you?

You found me out! Dang it..
/anybody seen Boyance today? She is answering her Cell.. :)

re: #206 IslandLibertarian

...and the beautiful babe in the shorts and halter top says, "Hey you stupid nerd, stop stating at me! Only cute guys get to stare at me."

/never happened to me though...

So she needs glasses then?

re: #204 LudwigVanQuixote

You raise very valid points. Before I adress them, I would like to point out that the political and economic discussion falls under the what are we going to do about it category and not the is this happening category.

I would like to establish that there is a big problem first - and there really is.

Now if I were king for a decade of so, I would do the following things...

1. Even though China and India are major polluters, we buy and finance through our purchases the industry that does the pollution. If we and Europe said that we would place tariffs on their goods until they met better standards we would impact them.

2. For a fraction of the cost of the bailout, we could have had many nuclear fission plants and laid the groundwork for real energy independence and the infrastructure for an electric vehicle fleet. This would keep billions of dollars in the US, out of the hands of people who hate us, create thousands of technical jobs and drastically reduce emissions without altering our lifestyle. It is possible to build reactors today that are physically incapable of melting down. Further, even though China and India don't give a damn, we are still one of the largest problems ourselves and every bit helps - though in our case if we did this it would be much more than a "bit" of help.

3. The other options are that by 2100 or so our economy completely collapses anyway because of the effects of coastline loss, loss of arable land and over population.

Cut to the chase and just start starving people to death.

re: #189 Kenneth

Canadian Federal Court rules: Ottawa must press to repatriate Khadr

Just. Fucking. Great.

I think he should move in with that Warman guy that keeps harassing people through the Canadian Human Rights Commission.

re: #203 Eowyn2

US and Canada are North America
Mexico is South Central North America
Everything between Mexico and Columbia/Bolivia is Itty Bitty America
The rest is South America

Oh geeze.

re: #208 DaddyG

it's that big bulge...

in your your back pocket...$

re: #207 turn

You might not want to go there...

Instead of Latin America, they should call it Hot Latin Women America.

re: #192 Occasional Reader

He used to be a grocery boy.

Now, thanks to doppelganglander, he's a grocery man.

/ducks

No, no, no. I really enjoy life without a parole officer.

Clinton's bizarre reality...and outright lies.

Clinton: Israel risks losing Arab support for combating Iran

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re: #207 turn

oh shit, I thought inflated scrotum man was a joke earlier. Now I got to go google that, oh wait maybe that would be a bad idea too much stuff rolling around in my head as it is.

Maybe you can find the answer to the question: if you threw a penny at those, how far would it bounce?

re: #216 Ward Cleaver

Instead of Latin America, they should call it Hot Latin Women America.

arses like a Greyhound bus

re: #208 DaddyG

The creepiest of all was the Goth waitress who waited until my wife went to the ladies room to tell me she would really like to "cut me".

Yes, that would be creepy. Where the hell were you eating, a castle in Transylvania?

re: #205 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The moment I knew my wife was the woman for me. She catches me checking out another woman. Her reaction, "Nice tits."

Mrs. Lawhawk is the perfect woman for me, as she sends me items to post about Israeli models. So, if she says it's kosher to post, who am I to argue?

re: #216 Ward Cleaver

Instead of Latin America, they should call it Hot Latin Women America.

I thought south florida was latin america.

re: #177 zombie

How did you guess?

zombie's earlobes.

gawd, if I can handle that I guess I will go google inflated scrotum man now. sick

re: #208 DaddyG

Oh man, that's funny!

re: #222 lawhawk

Mrs. Lawhawk is the perfect woman for me, as she sends me items to post about Israeli models. So, if she says it's kosher to post, who am I to argue?

It shows that not only are they comfortable with their marriage, they appreciate works of art just like you do. :D

North Korea is fully fledged nuclear power, experts agree

The uncomfortable truth has been confirmed by a number of experts, from the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency to the US Defence Secretary. According to intelligence briefings shown to academic experts, North Korea has successfully miniaturised nuclear warheads that could be launched on medium-range missiles.

This puts it ahead of Iran in the race for nuclear attack capability, and significantly alters the balance of power between North Korea’s large but poorly equipped military and the South Korean and US forces ranged against it.

“North Korea has nuclear weapons, which is a matter of fact,” the head of the IAEA, Mohamed ElBaradei, said this week. “I don't like to accept any country as a nuclear weapon state. We have to face reality.”

A certain amount of opposition is a great help to a man. Kites rise against and not with the wind. Even a head wind is better than none. No man ever worked his passage anywhere in a dead calm. Let no man wax pale, therefore, because of opposition.

— John Neal

Mr. Neal was obviously not into canoeing or kayaking.

re: #183 ConservatismNow!

If The View was cancelled, it would drop by at least 4%

Those women are real gas bags that's for sure, except for the one.

re: #227 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

North Korea is fully fledged nuclear power, experts agree

“North Korea has nuclear weapons, which is a matter of fact,” the head of the IAEA, Mohamed ElBaradei, said this week. “I don't like to accept any country as a nuclear weapon state. We have to face reality.”

Heck of a job, Mo! Let's give you another peace prize!

re: #204 LudwigVanQuixote

I'd like to see the Energy Dept. run design contests for the best next-gen nuke (actually two contests, one to use the stored fuel, the other for thorium), then propagate the winning designs quickly. That the US nuclear industry grew up with so many custom designs and over-dramatized project issues is a real shame. France has done a much better job.

re: #227 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

North Korea is fully fledged nuclear power, experts agree

Joy.

Fuck the UN.

re: #211 Van Helsing

Now that sounds like one of those early Fraser Institute proposals...(back in the early 90s the Fraser Institute wanted to put poor people in Canada on a virtual starvation diet -- they wanted to have poverty measured NOT in a relative way, but in an absolute sense -- thus, the Fraser Institute figured out how many calories were required before a person expired/died from starvation, then use that figure to determine the level of "rations" for the impoverished..."the one calorie short of starvation diet" -- that wasn't a big hit up here...)

re: #227 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

ElBaradei never met a reality he couldn't ignore.

re: #230 Kenneth

“North Korea has nuclear weapons, which is a matter of fact,” the head of the IAEA, Mohamed ElBaradei, said this week. “I don't like to accept any country as a nuclear weapon state. We have to face reality.”

Heck of a job, Mo! Let's give you another peace prize!

A big thanks to the Clinton, W. and Obama Administrations for keeping the Korean Peninsula nuclear-free!

re: #227 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The reality is that the IAEA and the rest of the world did nothing to stop it. They would much rather talk the issue into existence than fight to stop a rogue nation developing nukes - and transferring the technologies to other rogue nations like Iran.

Iran may be behind NK for the moment, but I have no doubt that the Iranians are learning everything they can from the NK programs - whether it's missile tech or the miniaturization of nuclear weapons.

re: #158 zombie

Most excellent post and I agree with every point you made about Kyoto. I think its more about income redistribution than combating climate change.

With the prolonged drop in sunspot activity (yikes) and all the pollution that China and India spew into the air, a little extra CO2 in the air might not be a bad thing. I have seen Winter and I have seen Summer and I'll take Summer.

re: #227 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

North Korea is fully fledged nuclear power, experts agree

Kim Jong-Il conducts nuclear blackmail against S. Korea in ...

re: #211 Van Helsing

Cut to the chase and just start starving people to death.

So I showed you models whose predictions matched observation and I asked you to answer my questions...

You respond with a vitriolic slogan that I am certain you think is witty - much like the ID people would on an evolution thread.

Actually I am interested in people not starving to death. What does loss of arable land mean to you? Since you don't get it, I shall explain. It means less land that produces food. Since the population keeps growing, if we lose food capacity, people will starve. Many will starve. I would like to prevent that.

Chant with me folks...

NU-CLEAR BLACK-MAIL
NU-CLEAR BLACK-MAIL

re: #231 freetoken

I'd like to see the Energy Dept. run design contests for the best next-gen nuke (actually two contests, one to use the stored fuel, the other for thorium), then propagate the winning designs quickly. That the US nuclear industry grew up with so many custom designs and over-dramatized project issues is a real shame. France has done a much better job.

You are so right!

re: #222 lawhawk

Mrs. Lawhawk is the perfect woman for me, as she sends me items to post about Israeli models. So, if she says it's kosher to post, who am I to argue?

Hard to believe she will be wearing an oversized hat and pushing a walker down A1A in Miami Beach in a mere 50 years huh?

//She is smoking hot now though

there is HUGE money ignoring nuclear proliferation...scores of thousands cash in bigtime

re: #233 J.S.

Now that sounds like one of those early Fraser Institute proposals...(back in the early 90s the Fraser Institute wanted to put poor people in Canada on a virtual starvation diet -- they wanted to have poverty measured NOT in a relative way, but in an absolute sense -- thus, the Fraser Institute figured out how many calories were required before a person expired/died from starvation, then use that figure to determine the level of "rations" for the impoverished..."the one calorie short of starvation diet" -- that wasn't a big hit up here...)

OMG did they really? Now I am thrilled to have debunked those assholes.

re: #222 lawhawk

Mrs. Lawhawk is the perfect woman for me, as she sends me items to post about Israeli models. So, if she says it's kosher to post, who am I to argue?

This is probably some kind of test which you have already failed.
;D

re: #193 jcm

true evil, and all over a f$%^ up religion.

re: #204 LudwigVanQuixote

3. The other options are that by 2100 or so our economy completely collapses anyway because of the effects of coastline loss, loss of arable land and over population.

Supposedly. The problem I have with this is that the catastrophists tend to believe we will have no change in techology before that time, and that they tend to go for the worst case senario. What if the catastrophists are wrong, and the warming (or cooling as the case may be) has little to no effect, or we mere adapt as we probably will? We have no knowledge of whether coastlines will change or how, or if arable land will increase or decrease. We can predict all we want, but the matter is we don't have any clue what will happen. Or do Hansen et.al. have crystal balls?

re: #230 Kenneth

“North Korea has nuclear weapons, which is a matter of fact,” the head of the IAEA, Mohamed ElBaradei, said this week. “I don't like to accept any country as a nuclear weapon state. We have to face reality.”

Heck of a job, Mo! Let's give you another peace prize!

Just how many illicit nuclear development programs has this yutz presided over? India. Pakistan. Iraq. North Korea. Iran. In every single case, he's been in denial that weapons were being designed and manufactured until someone intervened or it was far too late to do anything useful about it.

In most jobs, this kind of performance would not keep earning you a paycheck year after year after year.

He's like the Bernie Madoff of the non-proliferation world.

Good afternoon, lizardom.

Speaking of the opposition, I'm finally getting around to updating my blogroll this evening.

I'm making a list of any and all bloggers in the conservative blogosphere that have either allowed their commenters to assault Charles, or done it themselves.

Names please, no need to link.

re: #244 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah, at times the Fraser Institute was (hmm...) bonkers? Actually, over time, they've seemed to become relatively more moderate...(a decade or so ago, they were, imo, extremists...)

Name names.

re: #249 SixDegrees

Just how many illicit nuclear development programs has this yutz presided over? India. Pakistan. Iraq. North Korea. Iran. In every single case, he's been in denial that weapons were being designed and manufactured until someone intervened or it was far too late to do anything useful about it.

In most jobs, this kind of performance would not keep earning you a paycheck year after year after year.

He's like the Bernie Madoff of the non-proliferation world.

someone should dig into his bank accounts...there will be some surprises there...bet me

re: #158 zombie

re: #101 LudwigVanQuixote

I'm not equipped to argue the science one way or the other. The only thing I am armed with is a healthy skepticism, especially heightened since we seem on the verge of enacting some pretty draconian economic restrictions.
I think Zombie's argument is compelling in that if we are in dire peril then it is irresponsible or maybe even suicidal to exempt half the world (China, India, Indonesia etc) from participating in these measures.

A major turning point for me is the recent change from calling it Global Warming to calling it Climate Change. That to me is a completely transparent attempt to shut down any contrary evidence since now the climate can change in either direction, conveniently for them. The GW crowd might as well rename it again and just be honest and call it "Heads I Win Tails You Lose".
At the very least, the debate is definitely not over. If anything it is just beginning.

re: #249 SixDegrees

You forgot Syria & Libya, both of who had programmes he was unaware of and yet he complained he was not informed when they were stopped.