Pamela Geller: Poster Girl for Eurofascists

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Pamela Geller of “Atlas Shrugs” and Paul Belien of “Brussels Journal” have been announced as speakers at a German far right event organized by a group called “Pro Köln” — a successor to the notorious fascist group “Deutsche Liga für Volk und Heimat” (the “German League for People and Homeland”).

The “Pro Köln” group is under observation by the German inland secret service.

According to the website pi-news.net, Robert Spencer has also been invited: Translated version of “Israel Friends in the anti-Islamisierungskongress”.

One of the main organizers of “Pro Köln” is Manfred Rouhs. Here are two photos of Rous with hardcore neo-Nazi activist Axel Reitz, who the local media call “the Hitler of Cologne.”

And here’s a really charming photo of Axel Reitz in full Hitler regalia (at center):

The guy standing to Reitz’s left in that photo is Christian Worch:

Christian Worch (born 1956) is one of the most important figures of the German neo-Nazi scene.

In 1974 Worch started a militant group called the Hansabande in Hamburg, along with Michael Kühnen. The group defaced Jewish cemeteries, assaulted leftists and foreigners[1], and denied the Holocaust. Worch took part in one especially well-known campaign under the motto “I am an ass to believe that Jews were gassed in Germany” (Ich Esel glaube, daß in Deutschland Juden vergast worden sind). The group gradually became the Aktionsfront Nationaler Sozialisten (ANS, Action Front of National Socialists) in 1977. Worch and Kühnen were also close to the now-banned Wiking-Jugend (Viking Youth).

Kühnen was arrested in 1979 and Worch took over leadership of the ANS. In 1980 he was convicted to a three-year prison sentence, despite being defended by Jürgen Rieger during his trial. In 1983, the organization now known as the ANS/NA (Aktionsfront Nationaler Sozialisten/Nationale Aktivisten, Action Front of National Socialists/National Activists) was banned, so Worch joined the Freiheitliche Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (FAP, Free German Workers’ Party) and became vice-chairman. As the Nationale Liste (National List) was founded in 1989, he became active in its executive committee. He edited its magazine, Index, until September 1991 and was especially active in Anti-Antifa work. In this campaign, lists of names and addresses of left-wing and anti-fascist activists and organizations were published; this led to attacks on some of the people listed. Worch was one of the main initiators of the campaign.

(Hat tips: Magi and Hans.)

Previously at LGF:
Fascists Hijacking Anti-Jihadism in Cologne

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619 comments
1 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:39:26pm

the shit gets deeper by the day...yeomens work Charles

2 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:39:31pm

Real live Nazis... It never fails to sicken me that they still plague us.

3 Querent  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:39:43pm

a veritable rogues' gallery!

4 Querent  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:40:29pm

wow -- i haven't gotten to a topic so fresh in ages of being a lizard...

5 MJ  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:40:56pm

Geller has become the Right-wing equivalent of the Neturei Karta. Where those imbeciles provided cover to antisemites such as Ahmadinejad, she provides cover for the Neo-Nazi front.

6 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:40:59pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

Real live Nazis... It never fails to sicken me that they still plague us.

maximum PC blowback

7 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:41:55pm

Great trench coat in that last picture, however.

8 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:42:13pm

Keep up the good work, Pam n' Paul!

////

9 Bloodnok  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:42:20pm

Something stinks in Cologne.

10 Kronocide  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:42:27pm

re: #1 albusteve

Very true. The rabbit hole gets deeper. Costs more to fix later....

11 Querent  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:42:38pm

re: #7 Anthony (Los Angeles)

Great trench coat in that last picture, however.

perhaps their one even slightly redeeming feature -- the Nazis WERE snappy dressers.

12 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:42:45pm

Also see this comment from the previous thread....

Pro Köln is still a very small group, with not more than 500 members. It's true that their leading figures Manfred Rouhs (formerly NPD) and Markus Beisicht (formerly Deutsche Liga für Volk und Heimat) are coming from the militant Nazi-Milieu. Though, they are now trying to give themselves a new image, away from militant Neo-Nazi "against the system"-attitude towards a "loyal to the constitution".
Their main focus now is agitation against foreigners - especially muslims - and an accentuation of "christian" values.
To "prove" that they aren't racist, they now always proudly present Joseph Intsiful, as well as an israeli flag. Intsiful is a member of the notorious Society of St. Pius X and of course it's very clear that he is playing the role for pro Köln that Norman Finkelstein is playing for Anti-Semites worldwide.
But the causa pro Köln also demonstrates what happens, when rightwing-extremists focus on racism instead of anti-semitism: the "real" Nazis from NPD and Freie Kameradschaften (independent Nazis) have released spiteful comments directed at pro Köln, calling them "jewish slaves" and threatens them with violence.

It's also noteworthy, that the thousands of left counter-protesters last time were partly violent - and not only against the racists of pro Köln, but also against a very small group (not more than 30 people), who had announced a third demonstration, against racism and islamism. Organizer of this small demonstration were Mina Ahadi (who was insulted as "racist") as well as Holocaust-survivor Ralph Giordano.

I don't know if the aforementioned will repeat a demonstration. If not, there's no side to ally with and it may be best to avoid Cologne anyway, as there will be riots for sure.

13 Querent  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:43:23pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout
from our Lizard On The Scene...

14 pink freud  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:43:44pm

Maybe this will help her to feel less insignificant.

15 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:43:44pm

Geller is being used like the Vikings used their little pre-teen Saxons....she volunteered for this gig and will have nowhere to hide when the bill comes due...it's all on tape

16 callahan23  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:44:29pm

I need to get aauut of this Germany.
/ A. Schwarzenegger impersonation off

It is a great disgrace that this kind of scum is still around.

17 jcm  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:44:39pm

All Wrapped Around the Axle Putz needs is the mustache.

18 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:44:41pm

Pamela just thinks she's in a production of "Springtime for Hitler".
/do I need to?

19 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:44:46pm

Horst Wessel lied
People died

20 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:45:52pm

re: #17 jcm

All Wrapped Around the Axle Putz needs is the mustache.

It would be a real shame if he were to run into some former IDF troopers who were there on vacation. Really. Cryin' shame.

21 opnion  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:46:33pm

World War II should have settled the issue , defeating & totally discrediting Nazis & Fascists, but apparently some people didn't get the memo. Very sick.

22 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:46:39pm

The counterjihad bolggers aren't even trying to hide it or deny it anymore. They know what they're doing and there's no doubt about it.

23 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:47:22pm

Pamela--

Don't be silly, be a smartie/
run like hell from the Nazi Party

24 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:47:33pm

Shouldn't Axel Reitz be home studying for finals or something? He looks about 16 years old.

25 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:47:34pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

The counterjihad bolggers aren't even trying to hide it or deny it anymore. They know what they're doing and there's no doubt about it.

where do you squeek RP into this scenario?

26 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:48:16pm

re: #17 jcm

All Wrapped Around the Axle Putz needs is the mustache.

Doesn't look like he can grow one.

27 nines09  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:48:31pm

This is just the beginning IMHO. All of the PC BS that was foisted as tolerance while immigrants from other cultures demanded and got special treatment left a lot of people with no voice. This is a very bad scary voice. The sad part is a section of euros see it as the only option as their leaders seem incapable of doing anything. Very bad indeed. How do you spell backlash?

28 Querent  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:48:40pm

re: #25 albusteve

where do you squeek RP into this scenario?

i'll take What Are Six Degrees of Stormfront for 100 Deutschmarks, Alex?

29 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:48:52pm

re: #25 albusteve

Fuck off.

30 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:48:55pm

re: #21 opnion

World War II should have settled the issue , defeating & totally discrediting Nazis & Fascists, but apparently some people didn't get the memo. Very sick.

Yes. The Japanese realized their old system lost, so they decided to change to be more like the winners, and that has been good for them. These neo-Nazi shitheads remind me of the Muslims who think that since they're losing, they need to stricter in their observance and harsher on infidels, even though that is the cause of their problems.

31 eon  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:49:09pm

re: #11 Querent

perhaps their one even slightly redeeming feature -- the Nazis WERE snappy dressers.

They ripped the "trench" off from the British, who invented it and gave it its name. (WW 1 combat kit- warm, waterproof, and the large pockets were for Mills Bombs.)

the British however, had the (traditional English) courtesy to admit that their "trench coat" was an adaptation of the Aussie "drover's coat"- which was an adaptation of the American cowboy's "trail coat", or as it is better known today, the "duster".

I personally think it looked better on our OSS types than it ever did on the Geheime Staatspolizei crowd, but maybe that's just me.

/Axel the Dorkface is dressed in cutting-edge Gestapo style, circa 1941 occupied France.

cheers

eon

32 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:49:14pm

re: #24 doppelganglander

Shouldn't Axel Reitz be home studying for finals or something? He looks about 16 years old.

He's 26 years old according to the Wikipedia link.

33 guftafs  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:49:32pm

Could somebody who knows her please stop her? She's going to get hurt one way or the other if she keeps this up.

34 affenkopf  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:49:49pm

Since there's a link to pi-news, I stopped reading them in late 2007 they defended Vlaams Belang and co and accused Charles of lying. No surprise that they have no problem being on the same side as the fascists from Pro Köln (while still pretending to be pro-Israel).

35 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:50:28pm

re: #32 Charles

He's 26 years old according to the Wikipedia link.

I think that's his IQ. Unfortunately, unlike his age, it doesn't appear it will go up.

36 pink freud  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:50:37pm

re: #33 guftafs

Could somebody who knows her please stop her? She's going to get hurt one way or the other if she keeps this up.

The best thing to do when someone is determined to self-destruct is to get out of their way.

37 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:50:47pm

Clara Petacci

38 jcm  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:50:50pm

re: #26 Son of the Black Dog

Doesn't look like he can grow one.

I'll bet he has a falsie in his closet.

39 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:50:57pm

Such charming people. Not as spiffy in their outfits as the original Nazis-- but their hearts are in the right place..oops, that right; they don't have any. I hear they have the same problem with their brains as well.

Again with the lack of understanding history. Been there, done that, bought the war crimes trials.

40 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:51:03pm

re: #33 guftafs

It was tried a long time ago. her and Spencer are pretty committed to the path they've chosen.

41 onepistoffyid  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:51:42pm

Isn't Pamela Geller Jewish? What is she thinking? Is she trying to be Capo el supremo?

42 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:51:53pm

Time to head home. Can't think well enough to work right now.

43 guftafs  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:51:55pm

re: #36 pink freud

True.

44 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:52:22pm

Aren't neo-Nazis at least supposed to look tough?

If they can't even pull that off, what's left?

45 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:52:34pm

re: #36 pink freud

The problem is that we're part of the collateral damage.

46 jorline  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:52:53pm

Wake up Pamela...this isn't Kansas!

Reitz's Jr. Gestapo Guy outfit is scary.

47 opnion  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:52:53pm

re: #30 Kosh's Shadow

Yes. The Japanese realized their old system lost, so they decided to change to be more like the winners, and that has been good for them. These neo-Nazi shitheads remind me of the Muslims who think that since they're losing, they need to stricter in their observance and harsher on infidels, even though that is the cause of their problems.


You have said it well. These Euro Facists & extreme Islamists have more in common that they would like to admit.

48 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:53:43pm

re: #41 onepistoffyid

Isn't Pamela Geller Jewish? What is she thinking? Is she trying to be Capo el supremo?

she is thinking status and fame...now that she has it she must go forward into the abyss....DRINK!

49 eon  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:53:45pm

re: #44 Occasional Reader

Aren't neo-Nazis at least supposed to look tough?

If they can't even pull that off, what's left?

The originals couldn't even manage that. Have you ever taken a good look at their leaders?

cheers

eon

50 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:54:04pm

re: #16 callahan23

It is a great disgrace that this kind of scum is still around.

It ever bubbles up from the bottom & must be pushed back down.

Not ever will it be the age of Aquarius, not for a few thousand years.

Even then, it will be something better, not "Aquarius".

51 obscured by clouds  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:54:13pm

Aw, cmon...it's not like they've got a Luftwaffe or anything.
/

Good work, Charles. This is very interesting. Talk about someone feeding an alligator...there you have it.

52 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:54:45pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

The counterjihad bolggers aren't even trying to hide it or deny it anymore. They know what they're doing and there's no doubt about it.

I think it's past time to put "counterjihad bloggers" in scare quotes when speaking of these people.

Charles is a counterjihad blogger.

Belien, Geller and Spencer have turned into, ah, something else.

53 guftafs  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:55:08pm

re: #40 Killgore Trout

Thanks for the reminder. I stopped feeling pity for her right then and there.

54 MJ  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:55:26pm

Axel Reitz missed his calling. He would have made a very good third Columbine killer.

55 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:55:30pm

re: #46 jorline

Reitz's Jr. Gestapo Guy outfit is scary.

Not really. He looks like an extra from "Hogan's Heroes". Besides, none of them are wearing jodhpurs. You know they're really up to no good when they're wearing jodhpurs.

56 onepistoffyid  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:55:38pm

re: #48 albusteve

she is thinking status and fame...now that she has it she must go forward into the abyss....DRINK!

Nevertheless I wouldn't mind introducing her to my Kosher Kielbasa. Maybe that would give her the attitude adjustment she needs.

57 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:55:38pm

Some more background here...
Anti-Islamic Party Is Playing With Fear

Right-wing radicals in Cologne are gaining traction with Germany's first anti-Islamic party. The German domestic intelligence agency is alarmed -- but so are traditional neo-Nazis, who may have to shift their tactics to compete.

58 EstoniaKat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:56:01pm

I would hit Geller like a Spanish anti-fascist brigade.

But hot and the crazy often come in the same package.

59 MPH  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:56:04pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

The counterjihad bolggers aren't even trying to hide it or deny it anymore. They know what they're doing and there's no doubt about it.

After seeing ten seconds of this video, I'm not so sure she isn't hallucinating through all this (or how anyone can see this and think -- "now that is someone who gets it" -- is beyond me).

Youtube Video

The pysche ward must have a straight jacket with her name on it, just waiting for that day...

60 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:56:12pm

re: #11 Querent

perhaps their one even slightly redeeming feature -- the Nazis WERE snappy dressers.

Could it be that they were all closet homosexuals with "mother" issues?

61 eon  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:56:32pm

re: #52 Occasional Reader

I think it's past time to put "counterjihad bloggers" in scare quotes when speaking of these people.

Charles is a counterjihad blogger.

Belien, Geller and Spencer have turned into, ah, something else.

The term "useful idiots" comes to mind.

/Which is, I suspect, the way their "hosts" at this shindig view them.

cheers

eon

62 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:57:01pm

This just ain't logical. Why? Why is she doing this?

63 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:57:19pm

re: #25 albusteve

where do you squeek RP into this scenario?

Perhaps through his donations from stormfront? Perhaps from the rallying of Neo Nazis to "storm the Iowa Caucus?" ...

64 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:57:20pm

re: #62 unrealizedviewpoint

This just ain't logical. Why? Why is she doing this?

for power

65 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:57:26pm

re: #58 EstoniaKat

I would hit Geller like a Spanish anti-fascist brigade.

But hot and the crazy often come in the same package.

Hit her with a fifth column? But how to get in inside of her?/

66 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:58:01pm

power makes you stupid

look at congress for instance

67 livefreeor die  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:58:08pm

She should rename her site to Atlas rolled over in his grave.

68 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:58:11pm

re: #32 Charles

He's 26 years old according to the Wikipedia link.


He's been in prison for a long time. Now he's being financed by social welfare of the state that he is agitating against.

By the way: pi-news.net is the reason that an israeli flag now occurs at the pro Köln-demonstrations and I bet they are also the ones who made the contact with Geller and Spencer: Stefan Herre, founder of PI, is in contact with those, he also is in touch with people from Vlaams Belang and all these fascists.
Pro Köln is provincial, they could not made the contact with Geller and Spencer on their own. And the most funny thing: PI is announcing that Geller is coming to Cologne, but at the official Pro Köln-website there's no hint about this.

69 onepistoffyid  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:58:26pm

re: #58 EstoniaKat

I would hit Geller like a Spanish anti-fascist brigade.

But hot and the crazy often come in the same package.

You are so sexist. Let's keep this thread classy ok?

70 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:58:37pm

re: #23 Occasional Reader

Pamela--

Don't be silly, be a smartie/
run like hell from the Nazi Party

Too bad she's associating with these punks. She looks like she has a really nice rack.

71 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:58:37pm

re: #64 Ojoe

for power

And attention.

72 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:58:44pm

Also for anyone who doubts that Axel is a nazi and that Charles might be smearing him, this from the 2005 anti semitism report:

The promotion of antisemitic conspiracy theories by the traditionally xenophobic and anti-Muslim extreme right has led to its embrace of radical Islamists. During a demonstration in Essen, for example, on 16 April, under the banner “Keine Waffen für Israel? Keine Unterstützung für Zionisten!” (No weapons for Israel! No help for Zionists), neo-Nazi Axel Reitz (‘Gauleiter Rheinland’ or ‘Gausekretär des Gau Rheinland’) linked the struggle of the Arab world against the US and Israel to that of his group Kampfbund Deutscher Sozialisten. Together, he said, they form what he called a Schicksalsgemeinschaft, a common destiny: “We are far from being as fascist and militant as Israel... The resistance [of the Arab world] even if classified as terrorism is being degraded just as our political activities [are regarded] as criminal.”

[Link: www.tau.ac.il...]

73 drool  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:59:12pm

Does Reitz look like the Nazi trenchcoat guy in Raiders fo the Lost Ark or what?

Image: ronald-lacey-raiders.jpg

74 jaunte  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:59:22pm

Pro Köln spreads to München:

Why is (or rather: was, until somebody scratched if off yesterday night) there a sticker from a right-wing Cologne voter group (that’s something a bit like a political party, but easier to create and limited to one town or city) in Munich?

Well, I found the answer two days later when I saw an advertising billboard from “Pro München”, a new spawn of “Pro Köln” trying to get some votes in our upcoming local elections. Obviously they were too lame to get their own stickers printed, so they just used those from their friends in Cologne.

Read more about them on “Munich friends” (in German) or on “Toytown Germany” (in English).


The "Toytown Germany" link from Flickr goes to an English language discussion board headlined:
"I received a scary "Nazi" newspaper in the post - Munich
Neo-Nazis with anti-Muslim propaganda"
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

75 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 3:59:58pm

re: #67 livefreeor die

She should rename her site to Atlas rolled over in his grave.

Atlas Goose-stepped?

76 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:00:10pm

re: #41 onepistoffyid

Isn't Pamela Geller Jewish? What is she thinking? Is she trying to be Capo el supremo?

Ummmmm. Yes. She's not, and I don't know.

77 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:00:35pm

Later.

78 onepistoffyid  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:01:05pm

re: #76 Truck Monkey

Ummmmm. Yes. She's not, and I don't know.

She is so irritating she has to be Jewish (I can say that you can't).

79 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:01:42pm

re: #78 onepistoffyid

LOL

LGF the centrist funnies

80 eon  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:01:45pm

I'm off for the night, too.

Good night, Lizards.

Keep the faith.

cheers

eon

81 oh_dude  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:01:55pm

HA HA! A real life Little Hitler.

Someone call Tom Cruise. This guy would be perfect for his next project.

82 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:02:08pm

bbl work to be done

83 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:02:43pm

re: #37 Ojoe

Clara Petacci

Was that Il Duce's girlfriend? The one who was hung upside down next to him?

84 mattm  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:02:51pm

OT

The TOTUS will do another prime time press conference/speech on his 100th day in office.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

85 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:03:16pm

re: #83 Alouette

Yes. Though pretty, she ended badly.

86 callahan23  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:03:17pm

re: #50 Ojoe

It ever bubbles up from the bottom & must be pushed back down.

Not ever will it be the age of Aquarius, not for a few thousand years.

Even then, it will be something better, not "Aquarius".

I am also very doubtful of the possibility of a new enlightenment that could rid mankind of this vile irrationality.
On a different note:
I am probably off for the weekend.
{Lizardim} keep strong and NEVER AGAIN!
Cheers Harry C.

87 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:03:47pm

re: #63 Thanos

Perhaps through his donations from stormfront? Perhaps from the rallying of Neo Nazis to "storm the Iowa Caucus?" ...

so Euro fascists are corrupting the tea parties?....am I reaching to far?

88 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:03:49pm
The unemployed Reitz describes himself as a "professional protester."

Maybe he can get a job at Jurgen in the Box.

89 oh_dude  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:03:56pm

What's funnier... Moonbats on the Left or Moonbats on the Right?

90 Van Helsing  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:04:15pm

re: #66 Ojoe

power makes you stupid

look at congress for instance

Double ++ funny. Accurate, too.

91 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:04:19pm

re: #70 Soona'

Too bad she's associating with these punks. She looks like she has a really nice rack.

BOOB thread.
/in more ways than one

92 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:05:04pm

re: #78 onepistoffyid

She is so irritating she has to be Jewish (I can say that you can't).

Oh yes I can.

93 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:05:06pm

re: #91 Truck Monkey

BOOB thread.
/in more ways than one

she's a dunce...a box of rocks

94 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:05:07pm

Speaking more moonbattery;

[Link: www.people.com...]

First. I do not see where she can lose anymore weight
Second. I give her a week.

95 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:05:09pm

re: #83 Alouette

Was that Il Duce's girlfriend? The one who was hung upside down next to him?

Doesn't Rosie hang upside down also?

96 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:05:25pm

re: #68 gegenkritik

If you could find a schedule for the conference I'd love to know who else will be there. Le Penn shows up to their conferences sometimes and American racist David Duke is currently in Europe on a book tour so he might show up too.

97 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:05:31pm

Really bbl

Gotta get ready for an important meeting tomorrow

Carry on lizards

98 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:05:32pm

re: #84 mattm

OT

The TOTUS will do another prime time press conference/speech on his 100th day in office.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

With sparkly fireworks and singing cherubs?

99 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:06:13pm

re: #88 solomonpanting

Maybe he can get a job at Jurgen in the Box.

Stop putsch-ing that stuff around here.

100 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:06:45pm

re: #87 albusteve

so Euro fascists are corrupting the tea parties?....am I reaching to far?

Yes.

101 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:07:13pm

re: #95 Nevergiveup

Doesn't Rosie hang upside down also?

I so did not need that image. Thanks, though. I no longer have an appetite for a late-afternoon snack.

102 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:07:35pm

re: #94 calcajun

Speaking more moonbattery;

[Link: www.people.com...]

First. I do not see where she can lose anymore weight
Second. I give her a week.

Third. Does anyone really care?

103 Dizzy  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:08:26pm

The thing about Geller is that her hate blinds her to the company she keeps. I actually feel pity towards her because at one time or another, the reality of associating with Jew haters will smack her square in the face.

I hope she discovers the true intentions of these people before it is too late.

104 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:08:27pm

re: #87 albusteve

so Euro fascists are corrupting the tea parties?....am I reaching to far?

Yeah and no. Euronazis are not attending tea parties, but some US neo nazis are. In the primaries stormfront had people coming from all states to help put Ron Paul higher in the Iowa Caucus', we found that out the night of the infamous Stormfront server raid. I was thinking you meant Ron Paul by "RP" was I incorrect? Where does the Tea parties come into this?

105 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:08:58pm

re: #81 oh_dude

HA HA! A real life Little Hitler.

Someone call Tom Cruise. This guy would be perfect for his next project.

Yeah, 'cause "Valkyrie" was such a stunning success.

106 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:08:59pm

re: #102 Truck Monkey

Third. Does anyone really care?

Only for the absurd aspect of the thing.

107 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:09:01pm

Fuck 'em. Fuck them all. Every last fucking one.

108 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:09:01pm

re: #13 Querent

from our Lizard On The Scene...


Not directly, I live far away from Cologne.
But I've seen Reitz once at a demonstration. He didn't looked very sharp dressed after the demonstration anymore.

109 Querent  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:09:43pm

re: #104 Thanos

unsavory politics piggybacking on righteous popular anger?

110 Querent  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:10:23pm

re: #108 gegenkritik

Not directly, I live far away from Cologne.
But I've seen Reitz once at a demonstration. He didn't looked very sharp dressed after the demonstration anymore.

well, you're closer than most of us...

111 Drogheda  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:10:32pm

re: #94 calcajun

Speaking more moonbattery;

[Link: www.people.com...]

First. I do not see where she can lose anymore weight
Second. I give her a week.

Well if she follows the Cindy Sheehan hunger strike model she should do just fine. A smoothie from Jamba Juice now and then works wonders for your hunger strike.

112 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:10:40pm

re: #103 Dizzy

The thing about Geller is that her hate blinds her to the company she keeps. I actually feel pity towards her because at one time or another, the reality of associating with Jew haters will smack her square in the face.

I hope she discovers the true intentions of these people before it is too late.

Perhaps this little get-together in Cologne will enlighten her. All the trappings are in place.

113 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:11:04pm

re: #109 Querent

unsavory politics piggybacking on righteous popular anger?

Yeah, they are chameleons, whatever cause is popular. Notice that in 2005 Axel was pro-Islam, now he's anti... whatever happens to be the populist cause of the moment they jump on.

114 Querent  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:11:37pm

re: #113 Thanos

Yeah, they are chameleons, whatever cause is popular. Notice that in 2005 Axel was pro-Islam, now he's anti... whatever happens to be the populist cause of the moment they jump on.

Chameleons -- the Anti-Lizards?

115 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:12:00pm
From New York is the well-known conservative journalist Pamela Geller (photo)


And that my friends is why she is in this deep. It's all about the strokes.

Really pathetic.

116 Van Helsing  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:12:03pm

Igre: #108 gegenkritik

Not directly, I live far away from Cologne.
But I've seen Reitz once at a demonstration. He didn't looked very sharp dressed after the demonstration anymore.

Where you from? And does your statement indicate that he got disheveled at the demonstration?

117 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:12:04pm

re: #104 Thanos

Yeah and no. Euronazis are not attending tea parties, but some US neo nazis are. In the primaries stormfront had people coming from all states to help put Ron Paul higher in the Iowa Caucus', we found that out the night of the infamous Stormfront server raid. I was thinking you meant Ron Paul by "RP" was I incorrect? Where does the Tea parties come into this?

I did, and it was a legit question...could these people reach out over here via Ron Paul?...in spite of what Killgore thinks I am no fan and am wondering how far this stuff goes with regard to his insidious connections to the racist underground here in the US

118 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:12:44pm

re: #103 Dizzy

The thing about Geller is that her hate blinds her to the company she keeps. I actually feel pity towards her because at one time or another, the reality of associating with Jew haters will smack her square in the face.

I hope she discovers the true intentions of these people before it is too late.

She knows what they are. She obviously doesn't care.

119 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:12:44pm

re: #109 Querent

unsavory politics piggybacking on righteous popular anger?


Sic transit mundi.

120 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:13:48pm

re: #101 calcajun

I so did not need that image. Thanks, though. I no longer have an appetite for a late-afternoon snack.

For you.

[Link: www.militaryphotos.net...]

Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

121 Dizzy  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:14:13pm

re: #112 Soona'

If that does not jolt her senses, I'm not sure what will. I think her fight with LGF has her digging her heels in.

122 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:14:33pm

Indiana Police Arrest 2 Fifth-Graders for Selling Marijuana at School
Thursday, April 23, 2009
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INDIANAPOLIS — Police have arrested two fifth-graders on charges that they were selling marijuana at their eastside Indianapolis elementary school.

Warren Township school spokesman Dennis Jarrett says a student told school officials he saw a classmate at Brookview Elementary sell a "marijuana-like substance" to another student Tuesday morning.

Police confirmed that the substance was a small amount of marijuana and arrested the two boys, ages 10 and 11.

The boys were arrested on juvenile charges of dealing and possessing marijuana and taken to the Marion County Juvenile Detention Center. Both were suspended from school, pending an investigation.

?

123 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:14:56pm

re: #120 Truck Monkey

Oh, thank you. Why not give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice on it.

124 Dizzy  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:15:24pm

re: #118 rightymouse

I agree she doesn't care. However, their venom will one day be directed at her and that is why I pity her.

125 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:15:27pm

re: #103 Dizzy

The thing about Geller is that her hate blinds her to the company she keeps. I actually feel pity towards her because at one time or another, the reality of associating with Jew haters will smack her square in the face.

I hope she discovers the true intentions of these people before it is too late.

too late for what?...she reads LGF everyday...she digs her newfound status so what's so surprising?....she doesn't care about your pity

126 JarHeadLifer  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:15:38pm

If those guys weren't so vile, the pictures would be hysterical.

127 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:16:31pm

re: #117 albusteve

I did, and it was a legit question...could these people reach out over here via Ron Paul?...in spite of what Killgore thinks I am no fan and am wondering how far this stuff goes with regard to his insidious connections to the racist underground here in the US

Yes they do. They are very tightly collected at the philosophical level by things like Howard Taft club get together, publications, websites (vdare, brussells journal, taki's mag, the rockford institute, etc, etc,) and they support each other ... e.g. we used to get swarmed 24 hours a day here when Charles first started down this path, US and Europe extreme right work in tandem, it's why Duke and others attend conferences in Europe, and they come here. There's a whole consortium out there that someone should map sometime.

128 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:16:48pm

re: #121 Dizzy

If that does not jolt her senses, I'm not sure what will. I think her fight with LGF has her digging her heels in.

Someone upthread said that she's addicted to the spotlight. Maybe you're closer to the truth. Pride. More powerful than any publicity.

129 pittrader1988  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:17:21pm

not to quibble, but it looks like the two photos you posted were at the same event.
same clothes, same Hitler like haircut on the young Nazi. guess he is too young to grow a moustache.

130 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:17:25pm

re: #124 Dizzy

I agree she doesn't care. However, their venom will one day be directed at her and that is why I pity her.

This is what's called feeding the alligator. Sad really. Years ago she carried on a nice conversation with all of us here. Very genial, yet maybe a little excitable. She has really jumped the shark on this whole deal.

131 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:17:31pm

re: #126 JarHeadLifer

If those guys weren't so vile, the pictures would be hysterical.

yes..they play the PC game well...otherwise you'd see their swastikas and SS tags

132 yesandno  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:18:02pm

The spawn of hate and ignorance, suckling at the tit of anti-Semitism.

They will grow more rabid in time, and they will have to be put out of their misery.

133 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:18:16pm

Last year the BNP attend......

Communists Riot so German Police Stop Anti-Islamification Rally in Cologne (Google chache)

Extremist Communists rioted in the streets of the German city of Cologne this morning, attacking police, vandalising property and setting fire to rubbish bins.

This scandalous behaviour gave the German police the excuse they needed to ban the anti-Islamification rally due to be held in the city, at which the BNP’s Richard Barnbrook was to have been a guest speaker.

134 pegcity  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:18:42pm

Nazis always look like suck Dorks, these guys did not get picked first for dodgeball

135 pittrader1988  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:18:48pm

Geller looks kind of hot. Like a black widow. Or a Siren after Odysseus.

136 Dizzy  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:19:02pm

re: #125 albusteve

It's obvious that she doesn't care about a lot of things. When the Neonazi thugs turn their hate on her (she is Jewish), the consequences might be severe for her.

137 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:19:04pm

This is surprisingly on-topic:

Reputed Hitler watercolors sell at English auction

What a British auction house claims are a set of paintings and sketches by a young Adolf Hitler sold at auction Thursday for 97,672 pounds ($143,358).

Among the 15 pictures is a portrait of solitary figure dressed in brown peering into wine-colored waters. The date is 1910, the signature reads "A. Hitler" and scribbled just over the mysterious figure are the letters: "A.H."

-snip-

The portrait itself sold for about 10,000 pounds ($14,600). The buyer John Ratledge, 46, said he planned to hang it at home or in his office.
138 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:19:05pm

re: #129 pittrader1988

not to quibble, but it looks like the two photos you posted were at the same event.
same clothes, same Hitler like haircut on the young Nazi. guess he is too young to grow a moustache.

Here are lots of pics of Axel

[Link: images.google.com...]

139 Proud kaffir  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:19:17pm

Looking through Geller's site. she appears to be staunchly pro-Israel. She has a picture of last year's Cologne rally, where there is an Israeli flag on display.
[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

Are there pro-Israel neo-Nazis?

140 albusteve  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:19:46pm

re: #127 Thanos

Yes they do. They are very tightly collected at the philosophical level by things like Howard Taft club get together, publications, websites (vdare, brussells journal, taki's mag, the rockford institute, etc, etc,) and they support each other ... e.g. we used to get swarmed 24 hours a day here when Charles first started down this path, US and Europe extreme right work in tandem, it's why Duke and others attend conferences in Europe, and they come here. There's a whole consortium out there that someone should map sometime.

thanks...I need help with all the dots, and there are alot of them

141 Van Helsing  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:20:36pm

re: #120 Truck Monkey

That was not nice at all.
Funnier than heck, though.

142 affenkopf  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:20:46pm

re: #126 JarHeadLifer

If those guys weren't so vile, the pictures would be hysterical.

It's still is hysterical because it's so pathetic and ridiculous. Remember the one thing these people really hate is being laughed at which is why we should laugh at them as much as possible (while of course still being aware of the dangers they represent).

143 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:21:02pm

re: #130 Truck Monkey

This is what's called feeding the alligator. Sad really. Years ago she carried on a nice conversation with all of us here. Very genial, yet maybe a little excitable. She has really jumped the shark on this whole deal.

Sharks and alligators and Nazis, oh my.

What appropriate metaphors.

Someone should read (cause Bil Shirer had a real good terse writing style) Rise & Fall of the Third Reich--especially the part on how Hitler finally attained the Chancellorship. That is what happens when you ally with one set of thugs to fight another set of thugs.

144 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:21:25pm

re: #51 obscured by clouds


Good work, Charles. This is very interesting. Talk about someone feeding an alligator...there you have it.

She sailed away
On a sunny summer's day
On the back of a crocodile
"You'll see."
Said she
"He's as tame as tame can be,
I'll ride him down the Nile."
The croc winked his eye
As she bade them all good-bye
Wearing a happy smile.
At the end of the ride
The lady was inside
And the smile
was on the crocodile

145 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:21:38pm

re: #135 pittrader1988

Geller looks kind of hot. Like a black widow. Or a Siren after Odysseus.

Well, she's leading some folks to their doom.

146 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:21:41pm

The black leather trench-coat in the last picture is a real humdinger.

That was a Gestapo uniform item.

It is pretty much taboo to wear one in Germany. Seriously.

That clothing item was chosen to send a particular message to the "Volk."

147 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:21:47pm

re: #129 pittrader1988

not to quibble, but it looks like the two photos you posted were at the same event.
same clothes, same Hitler like haircut on the young Nazi. guess he is too young to grow a moustache.

He's 26. But his voice hasn't broken yet. It's still mired in the Hitler Youth.

148 Scion9  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:22:48pm

re: #137 doppelganglander

Looks like a river of blood to me. I can't believe someone wants to hang that in their home.

149 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:23:06pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Last year the BNP attend......

Communists Riot so German Police Stop Anti-Islamification Rally in Cologne (Google chache)

I don't think the neo-nazi movement is any stronger than all the others out there. What I think is happening in Europe (and many other places in the world) is a draw-down to anarchy. No one wins. Many die.

150 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:23:10pm

re: #139 Proud kaffir

Looking through Geller's site. she appears to be staunchly pro-Israel. She has a picture of last year's Cologne rally, where there is an Israeli flag on display.
[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

Are there pro-Israel neo-Nazis?

There are Israeli nazis (Hebrew-speaking non-Jewish Russians). Do they count?

151 Dizzy  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:23:11pm

re: #130 Truck Monkey

I remember reading her at that time several years ago and feeling uncomfortable with her superficial argumentation style. There was an undercurrent of ignorance in her posts that never range true, even though I agreed with many of the larger issues she was writing about.

The word that kept going through my mind while reading her posts was 'zealotry'.

152 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:23:53pm

Hey Pamela!

The Scorpion and the Frog
One day, a scorpion looked around at the mountain where he lived and decided that he wanted a change. So he set out on a journey through the forests and hills. He climbed over rocks and under vines and kept going until he reached a river.

The river was wide and swift, and the scorpion stopped to reconsider the situation. He couldn't see any way across. So he ran upriver and then checked downriver, all the while thinking that he might have to turn back.

Suddenly, he saw a frog sitting in the rushes by the bank of the stream on the other side of the river. He decided to ask the frog for help getting across the stream.

"Hellooo Mr. Frog!" called the scorpion across the water, "Would you be so kind as to give me a ride on your back across the river?"

"Well now, Mr. Scorpion! How do I know that if I try to help you, you wont try to kill me?" asked the frog hesitantly.

"Because," the scorpion replied, "If I try to kill you, then I would die too, for you see I cannot swim!"

Now this seemed to make sense to the frog. But he asked. "What about when I get close to the bank? You could still try to kill me and get back to the shore!"

"This is true," agreed the scorpion, "But then I wouldn't be able to get to the other side of the river!"

"Alright then...how do I know you wont just wait till we get to the other side and THEN kill me?" said the frog.

"Ahh...," crooned the scorpion, "Because you see, once you've taken me to the other side of this river, I will be so grateful for your help, that it would hardly be fair to reward you with death, now would it?!"

So the frog agreed to take the scorpion across the river. He swam over to the bank and settled himself near the mud to pick up his passenger. The scorpion crawled onto the frog's back, his sharp claws prickling into the frog's soft hide, and the frog slid into the river. The muddy water swirled around them, but the frog stayed near the surface so the scorpion would not drown. He kicked strongly through the first half of the stream, his flippers paddling wildly against the current.

Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs.

"You fool!" croaked the frog, "Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that?"

The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.

"I could not help myself. It is my nature."

Then they both sank into the muddy waters of the swiftly flowing river.

Self destruction - "Its my Nature", said the Scorpion...

Be careful with the scorpions.

153 Van Helsing  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:24:17pm

re: #146 karmic_inquisitor

The black leather trench-coat in the last picture is a real humdinger.

That was a Gestapo uniform item.

It is pretty much taboo to wear one in Germany. Seriously.

That clothing item was chosen to send a particular message to the "Volk."

I've I lived in Bavaria, I'd have one too.
Way too warm for Phoenix AZ...

154 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:24:22pm

re: #139 Proud kaffir

Looking through Geller's site. she appears to be staunchly pro-Israel. She has a picture of last year's Cologne rally, where there is an Israeli flag on display.
[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

Are there pro-Israel neo-Nazis?

Appearances aren't always as they seem....

155 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:25:23pm

re: #151 Dizzy

I remember reading her at that time several years ago and feeling uncomfortable with her superficial argumentation style. There was an undercurrent of ignorance in her posts that never range true, even though I agreed with many of the larger issues she was writing about.

The word that kept going through my mind while reading her posts was 'zealotry'.

True dat. I always thought that she became a bit unhinged when argued with.

156 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:26:05pm

Soft Despotism, Democracy's Drift: What de Tocqueville Teaches Us Today

I haven't finished this yet but it has lots of interesting thoughts. "The French Disease", "The Nexus of Tyrannical Ambition and Servile Temptation", and others.


The volume is kind of low so you have to crank it up.

157 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:26:16pm

re: #139 Proud kaffir

Are there pro-Israel neo-Nazis?


No, but they would have you believe that.

158 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:26:17pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout
I've just looked at the pro-Köln-website, now they also announce that Geller is coming (some hours ago, when I posted about this in the Overnight-Thread, only PI-news was announcing that).
According to their site, besides Geller, Lars Hedegaard and Brussels-Journal-blogger Paul Belien, the most prominent politicians will be Philip Claeys, Filip Dewinter (both Vlaams Belang) , Andreas Mölzer and Harald Vilimsky (both from Austrian FPÖ), Robert Spieler (from small French party Alsace first) and Henry Nitzsche (Member of German Bundestag). I somewhere read that also Mario Borghezio (from Italian Lega Nord) will show up.

Though, I would not take pro-Köln's announcements too seriously. Last year, they triumphantly announced that LePen would come to their congress. LePen denied he was in contact with them, but they still announced him - until the congress took place and no LePen was there.

159 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:26:54pm

A former federal prosecutor running for governor approved the tracking of citizens through their cell phones without warrants while he was head of the U.S. Attorney's Office for New Jersey, civil rights attorneys said Thursday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

I'm from NJ and up till now I didn't know who to support. Well i just found my man: Christoper Christie! Thank-you ACLU

160 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:27:38pm
Though, they are now trying to give themselves a new image, away from militant Neo-Nazi "against the system"-attitude towards a "loyal to the constitution".
Their main focus now is agitation against foreigners - especially muslims - and an accentuation of "christian" values.

shudder

161 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:27:59pm

re: #139 Proud kaffir

Sort of. See #12

162 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:28:04pm

re: #116 Van Helsing

Ig

Where you from? And does your statement indicate that he got disheveled at the demonstration?


I am from Germany, but some hundred kilometers away from Cologne. Ok, I guess for an American that's not far away. ;-)
For your second question: yes.

163 pink freud  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:28:29pm

re: #157 The Shadow Do

No, but they would have you believe that.

A neurotic aging woman, wrapped in a Jew, wrapped in a neo-Nazi.

164 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:29:15pm

re: #139 Proud kaffir

Looking through Geller's site. she appears to be staunchly pro-Israel. She has a picture of last year's Cologne rally, where there is an Israeli flag on display.
[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

Are there pro-Israel neo-Nazis?

They have decided that Muslims are worse than Jews, at least for now.

165 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:31:45pm

In that second picture, Axel is wishing Manfred would lay off the beans and sauerkraut. Phewww-wee!

166 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:32:07pm

re: #158 gegenkritik

I've just looked at the pro-Köln-website, now they also announce that Geller is coming (some hours ago, when I posted about this in the Overnight-Thread, only PI-news was announcing that).
According to their site, besides Geller, Lars Hedegaard and Brussels-Journal-blogger Paul Belien, the most prominent politicians will be Philip Claeys, Filip Dewinter (both Vlaams Belang) , Andreas Mölzer and Harald Vilimsky (both from Austrian FPÖ), Robert Spieler (from small French party Alsace first) and Henry Nitzsche (Member of German Bundestag). I somewhere read that also Mario Borghezio (from Italian Lega Nord) will show up.

Though, I would not take pro-Köln's announcements too seriously. Last year, they triumphantly announced that LePen would come to their congress. LePen denied he was in contact with them, but they still announced him - until the congress took place and no LePen was there.

Alsace l' Abord and VB trade speakers for their Youth Groups frequently, basically you have all of the major tribal separatists in Europe attending. Lega Nord just hosted a Far Right meeting in Milan iirc.

167 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:32:33pm

Looking at the pictures above, those guys look like a bunch of laughable clowns. Hitler may have had the same appearance when he started his career.

168 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:32:34pm

re: #163 pink freud

A neurotic aging woman, wrapped in a Jew, wrapped in a neo-Nazi.

Excellent and to the point!

169 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:33:40pm

re: #158 gegenkritik

Thanks.

170 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:34:25pm

re: #103 Dizzy

The thing about Geller is that her hate blinds her to the company she keeps. I actually feel pity towards her because at one time or another, the reality of associating with Jew haters will smack her square in the face.

I hope she discovers the true intentions of these people before it is too late.

I also pity her. She obviously suffers from some kind of psychological disorder and appears to also be an alcoholic.

I guess I feel most sorry for her children. She is so filled with fear and anger that she can't be much of a mother.

171 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:34:39pm

I put the first meltdown at #203.

172 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:34:53pm

re: #162 gegenkritik

I am from Germany, but some hundred kilometers away from Cologne. Ok, I guess for an American that's not far away. ;-)

Hey, at least we're not Russians. They'd see it as practically walking distance...

173 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:35:36pm

re: #69 onepistoffyid

You are so sexist. Let's keep this thread classy ok?

Did you forget a sarc tag?

174 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:35:37pm

Does no one see the problem with this coverage. It is the description of Geller as a well-known "conservative" journalist. She is shilling for the neo-nazis as a "conservative". This is one more piece of ammo for the MSM--and the silly woman just does not see it.

175 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:35:40pm

re: #171 Charles

I put the first meltdown at #203.

Is it a pool? What does the winner get?

I say 235.

176 jcm  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:35:54pm

re: #138 Thanos

Here are lots of pics of Axel

[Link: images.google.com...]

Interesting one.... Wrapped Around the Axle front row left?

177 Truck Monkey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:37:39pm

re: #171 Charles

I put the first meltdown at #203.

Invite alemaP relleG back and we might see one sooner!

178 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:37:45pm

re: #171 Charles

I put the first meltdown at #203.

Now there you go and screw up the odds--like laying a large bet on a long-shot.

179 affenkopf  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:38:09pm

re: #158 gegenkritik


According to their site, besides Geller, Lars Hedegaard and Brussels-Journal-blogger Paul Belien, the most prominent politicians will be Philip Claeys, Filip Dewinter (both Vlaams Belang) , Andreas Mölzer and Harald Vilimsky (both from Austrian FPÖ), Robert Spieler (from small French party Alsace first) and Henry Nitzsche (Member of German Bundestag). I somewhere read that also Mario Borghezio (from Italian Lega Nord) will show up.
[...].

Nitzsche' s on the far right. In a speech he said Germany should stop feeling guilt for its' past so that it would no longer be be governed by multi-kulti faggots (his quote, not mine) and was then thrown out of the CDU (German conservative party). After this speech the neo-nazi NPD started supporting him in local elections.

180 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:38:23pm

Of course, what do you expect?

The woman is more bothered about the fact that I genderised the word "Jew" (how dare I!) than she is about the fact that she's stroking the dicks of people who would gleefully send Jews (like her) back to the death camps and gas chambers in a heartbeat.

Her ancestors must be rolling in their graves.

181 gettinby  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:38:25pm

re: #170 funky chicken

I also pity her. She obviously suffers from some kind of psychological disorder and appears to also be an alcoholic.

I guess I feel most sorry for her children. She is so filled with fear and anger that she can't be much of a mother.

My years of experience is that when people hate themselves, they only draw and are drawn to people who also hate them. Yet, many never realize it and stay in the deal.

/Isn't there a name for this type of relationship?

182 Dizzy  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:39:01pm

re: #170 funky chicken

I also pity her. She obviously suffers from some kind of psychological disorder and appears to also be an alcoholic.

I guess I feel most sorry for her children. She is so filled with fear and anger that she can't be much of a mother.

I think she is a bored upper middle class New York housewife who has found meaning in her life by hating. Giving that up, as well as the fight with Charles would make her life meaningless again. She is so invested in her position she can't see how ultimately damaging it is to her cause.

And I'm sorry to say that children of haters will breed children who hate.

183 pink freud  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:39:02pm

re: #170 funky chicken

I also pity her. She obviously suffers from some kind of psychological disorder and appears to also be an alcoholic.

I guess I feel most sorry for her children. She is so filled with fear and anger that she can't be much of a mother.

Just a random thought, but it fits into your post ...

I watched her closely on redeye the other night. I realized after a while who she reminded me of: Cindy Anthony, the mother of the Casey Anthony in Florida, jailed on murder charges.

The overall demeanor is strikingly similar. And then you mentioned Geller's children .................

184 alegrias  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:39:10pm

OT
Twitter Chairman and other tech executives are in Baghdad to push internet & communications technology.

Iraqis are going 21st century in a hurry.

Thank George W. Bush!--editorializing by me.

(Fox news report)

185 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:39:55pm

re: #128 Soona'

Someone upthread said that she's addicted to the spotlight. Maybe you're closer to the truth. Pride. More powerful than any publicity.

She loves attention. Thrives on it. For many people, attention is an aphrodisiac. She also comes across as a drama queen too.

186 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:40:07pm

re: #174 calcajun

Does no one see the problem with this coverage. It is the description of Geller as a well-known "conservative" journalist. She is shilling for the neo-nazis as a "conservative". This is one more piece of ammo for the MSM--and the silly woman just does not see it.

Nor do all of her conservative cheerleaders over at hotair or ace of spades.

She's very attractive, but that doesn't make her somebody that conservatives should embrace or associate with.

187 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:40:22pm

re: #184 alegrias

OT
Twitter Chairman and other tech executives are in Baghdad to push internet & communications technology.

Iraqis are going 21st century in a hurry.

Thank George W. Bush!--editorializing by me.

(Fox news report)

Democracy! Wiskey! Sexy!

188 brookly red  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:40:41pm

re: #181 gettinby

My years of experience is that when people hate themselves, they only draw and are drawn to people who also hate them. Yet, many never realize it and stay in the deal.

/Isn't there a name for this type of relationship?

F'ed up?

189 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:41:12pm

re: #186 funky chicken

Nor do all of her conservative cheerleaders over at hotair or ace of spades.

She's very attractive, but that doesn't make her somebody that conservatives should embrace or associate with.

I could embrace her, but I wouldn't spend the night.

190 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:41:13pm

Among the Euro-Nazis it would seem that being ok with Israel is acceptable since this is a stick in the eye of Muslims. This of course does not mean that they accept Jooos. But it does give them entry into mainstream politics they could not have given the rules of the game there. Most would kill your Jewish ass in a heartbeat, but not just yet.

191 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:41:26pm

I can just see the Hollywood movie now, with Angelina Jolie as Pam Geller and Leonardo Di Caprio as Axel Reitz.

192 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:41:56pm

re: #176 jcm

Interesting one.... Wrapped Around the Axle front row left?


The guy to Axel's right is Thomas Brehl, and the large one with the leather-cap is Thomas Wulff, another prominent Nazi-leader from the more militant independent scene, who joined the NPD some years ago.

193 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:42:06pm

re: #190 The Shadow Do

Among the Euro-Nazis it would seem that being ok with Israel is acceptable since this is a stick in the eye of Muslims. This of course does not mean that they accept Jooos. But it does give them entry into mainstream politics they could not have given the rules of the game there. Most would kill your Jewish ass in a heartbeat, but not just yet.

They want the Israelis to nuke Mecca for them.

194 alegrias  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:42:18pm

re: #185 rightymouse

She loves attention. Thrives on it. For many people, attention is an aphrodisiac. She also comes across as a drama queen too.

* * * *
Like a Barbara Walters, interviewing/flirting with powerful Castro?

Media whores.

195 gettinby  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:42:41pm

re: #188 brookly red

F'ed up?

That's it!

LOL

196 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:43:53pm

re: #183 pink freud

Just a random thought, but it fits into your post ...

I watched her closely on redeye the other night. I realized after a while who she reminded me of: Cindy Anthony, the mother of the Casey Anthony in Florida, jailed on murder charges.

The overall demeanor is strikingly similar. And then you mentioned Geller's children .................

I would personally feel more comfortable if we left Pamelas' children out of the discussion.

It's inappropriate, and they really have no control over who their mother is and what she does.

197 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:44:08pm

Axel Reitz:

German for Closet-Case.

198 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:44:38pm

re: #197 Guanxi88

Axel Reitz:

German for Closet-Case.

He clearly likes to play dress-up.

199 Scion9  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:45:25pm

re: #139 Proud kaffir


Are there pro-Israel neo-Nazis?

There are ethnic nationalists that are fans of Israel, seeing it as a prototype for an ethnic state that they want for their own particular 'tribe'. You could probably call these people 'Nazis', and the tag would be about as appropriate as most modern neo-Nazi organizations.

Keep in mind, that even groups that claim the Nazi title don't always follow Nazi ideology 100%. Most American neo-Nazis from my experience are more fueled by hatred of blacks (and obsessed with skin color in general), than Jews as one prominent example. I've even seen comments on forums 'absolving' Jews and Gypsies that are 'white' (primarily of European heritage) from being involved with the 'swarthy horde'.

So, I'd say that there are in fact pro-Israel Nazis, despite the cognitive dissonance involved in that position.

200 Etaoin Shrdlu  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:45:31pm

Worst combover ever.

… and Reitz's is pretty bad, too.

201 pink freud  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:45:38pm

re: #196 Irish Rose

I would personally feel more comfortable if we left Pamelas' children out of the discussion.

It's inappropriate, and they really have no control over who their mother is and what she does.

Why all the recent bossiness?

If you don't want to post about something, then by all means, don't.

202 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:46:16pm

re: #198 Guanxi88

He clearly likes to play dress-up.

The guy just doesn't look right.

203 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:46:19pm

Are we melted yet?

(Apologies to Zippy)

204 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:46:35pm

re: #194 alegrias

* * * *
Like a Barbara Walters, interviewing/flirting with powerful Castro?

Media whores.

Yep.

205 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:46:37pm

re: #201 pink freud

Excuse me?

206 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:47:02pm

re: #171 Charles

I put the first meltdown at #203.

Crap, I should have taken the over. #250 maybe?

207 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:47:07pm

re: #139 Proud kaffir

Not really, look at my post here for explanation.
On the picture of Geller's article you can see Joseph Intsiful and on his right Henry Nitzsche, who left the German CDU after some ugly comments regarding the Holocaust and mocking homosexuals.

208 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:47:20pm

I broke a nail but I've been able to hold it together.

209 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:47:27pm

re: #184 alegrias

OT
Twitter Chairman and other tech executives are in Baghdad to push internet & communications technology.

Iraqis are going 21st century in a hurry.

Thank George W. Bush!--editorializing by me.

(Fox news report)

God bless the Iraqies. I hope they make it work. Our soldiers deserve it.

210 jcm  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:47:27pm

re: #192 gegenkritik

The guy to Axel's right is Thomas Brehl, and the large one with the leather-cap is Thomas Wulff, another prominent Nazi-leader from the more militant independent scene, who joined the NPD some years ago.

Pleasant company.....

/*gag*

211 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:47:38pm

re: #196 Irish Rose

I would personally feel more comfortable if we left Pamelas' children out of the discussion.

It's inappropriate, and they really have no control over who their mother is and what she does.

Upding.

212 pink freud  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:47:40pm

re: #205 Irish Rose

Excuse me?

Rose, I am not the one who brought up her children.

213 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:47:48pm

The skrawning little german git reminds of Herr Otto Flick off the British sit-com "'ello, 'ello"

Pamela Geller, sadly, looks bloody hot, shame about the mentality, (oh well, consign to scrap heap)

214 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:48:02pm

Wow- “the Hitler of Cologne.” I can only imagine how proud pamela's family must be.

215 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:48:43pm

Sarah Palin was right for criticizing Barack Obama for palling around with terrorists.

Charles is likewise right for criticizing Pam and others for palling around with Nazis.

216 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:48:51pm

re: #212 pink freud

Rose, I am not the one who brought up her children.

I didn't say that you were.

217 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:49:18pm

re: #214 Sharmuta

Wow- “the Hitler of Cologne.” I can only imagine how proud pamela's family must be.

These people will be Godwined for the rest of their lives.

218 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:49:37pm

re: #212 pink freud

Rose, I am not the one who brought up her children.

pink freud, you've always been decent to me, but I'm afraid you're going out on a limb on this one. You compared her kids to a murderer.

219 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:50:13pm

The fact that these idiots get any traction anywhere is beyond me. But in Europe? This does not bode well for our future here, particularly after one or more 9-11 type attacks brought to you by our fine leftist government and its infernal handwringing.

220 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:50:36pm

re: #176 jcm

Interesting one.... Wrapped Around the Axle front row left?

NPD is one of the few Neo Nazi orgs that is ok with Gayness.

221 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:50:45pm

re: #124 Dizzy

I agree she doesn't care. However, their venom will one day be directed at her and that is why I pity her.

The thing is, she's not stupid. There's been ample warning that there's the high risk of them turning on her. At some point, pity is wasted when a person simply turns a blind eye out of hubris.

222 Salamantis  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:51:06pm

re: #214 Sharmuta

Wow- “the Hitler of Cologne.” I can only imagine how proud pamela's family must be.

Yeah, but what was the cologne of Hitler? It's rancid ordure seems to permeate these parties of which Pamela & Co. seem so fond.

/don't wanna buy that fragrance to be antijihad

223 pink freud  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:52:25pm

re: #218 Zimriel

pink freud, you've always been decent to me, but I'm afraid you're going out on a limb on this one. You compared her kids to a murderer.


That was not my intent. My apologies.

224 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:52:25pm

Also for anyone who thinks "well maybe Pam doesn't know" at her post on last year's conference that turned into an Antifa riot, there are commenters who point out the NPD leadership of NRW, and they provide links.

225 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:52:48pm

re: #214 Sharmuta

“the Hitler of Cologne.”

The smell that invades all of the neighbor's houses./

226 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:53:14pm

re: #220 Thanos

NPD is one of the few Neo Nazi orgs that is ok with Gayness.

No kidding? I didn't know that. What a strange combination. Like "You got peanut butter in my chocolate"....but....ewww. Imagine what magazines they have hidden under their mattresses...
ew ew ew ew.

227 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:53:57pm

re: #215 funky chicken

Sarah Palin was right for criticizing Barack Obama for palling around with terrorists.

Charles is likewise right for criticizing Pam and others for palling around with Nazis.

Dog, meet the fleas. Fleas, meet you new dog.

228 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:54:00pm

re: #219 joecitizen

The fact that these idiots get any traction anywhere is beyond me. But in Europe? This does not bode well for our future here, particularly after one or more 9-11 type attacks brought to you by our fine leftist government and its infernal handwringing.

Yeah. I thought that the world would become a smiling paradise when the lightworker was elected.

229 Macker  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:54:01pm

re: #67 livefreeor die

She should rename her site to Atlas rolled over in his grave Bent Over.

There, fixed that for ya!

230 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:55:19pm

From January 2008:

Anti-Islamic Party Is Playing With Fear

231 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:55:27pm

re: #228 Soona'

Yeah. I thought that the world would become a smiling paradise when the lightworker was elected.

I'm still waiting for the promised unicorn that farts rainbows..

232 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:55:33pm

re: #226 Dar ul Harbarian

No kidding? I didn't know that. What a strange combination. Like "You got peanut butter in my chocolate"....but....ewww. Imagine what magazines they have hidden under their mattresses...
ew ew ew ew.

I think Axel's written essays on it

233 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:55:37pm

re: #226 Dar ul Harbarian

No kidding? I didn't know that. What a strange combination. Like "You got peanut butter in my chocolate"....but....ewww. Imagine what magazines they have hidden under their mattresses...
ew ew ew ew.

There's bad folk of every stripe; this just proves it.

234 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:56:49pm

re: #225 calcajun

The smell that invades all of the neighbor's houses./

Think Charles might consider renaming this thread, "Pamela Geller's Rancid Cologne"?

235 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:57:06pm

re: #234 Zimriel

Think Charles might consider renaming this thread, "Pamela Geller's Rancid Cologne"?

Good one

236 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:57:28pm

re: #231 joecitizen

I'm still waiting for the promised unicorn that farts rainbows..


But, but.....ah well, you must have missed it. Another will be along...........shortly.......or.......maybe not.

237 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:57:30pm

I wonder if pamela has any idea how much the nazis are laughing at her behind her back.

238 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:57:34pm

Damn! I screwed up my own bet!

239 rumcrook  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:57:40pm

re: #11 Querent

that sounds vaguely mel brooksian, im thinking spring time for hitler in germmmmmmmaaaaaaaannnnnnnyyy......

240 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:58:34pm

re: #237 Sharmuta

I wonder if pamela has any idea how much the nazis are laughing at her behind her back.

Laughing. And licking their chops.

241 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:58:57pm

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Thursday dismissed European calls to suspend the upgrade in Israel's relations with the European Union. "Don't set conditions for us," Netanyahu told Mirek Topolanek during the Czech premier's visit to Israel. Netanyahu said Israel's relationship to Europe should not be linked to its relationship to the Palestinians.

"Peace is in Israel's interest no less than it is in Europe's interest, and there's no need to make the upgrade in relations with Israel conditional on progress on the peace process," Netanyahu said. "We are in the process of reviewing our policy; don't rush us."

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Good for you

242 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:59:06pm

re: #237 Sharmuta

I wonder if pamela has any idea how much the nazis are laughing at her behind her back.


Probably about as much as Pres O is aware of how much dinnerjacket, Chavez and all the others are laughing behind his back.

243 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:59:10pm

Pancake Pammy was on Red Eye recently..what a thoroughly loathsome creature..she wouldn't know an original idea if it bit her on the ass.

244 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 4:59:50pm

I think about how much grief and shame Pamela is going to suffer when she finally figures out who and what these people are... it's almost enough to make me feel a twinge of sympathy.

Almost.

245 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:00:05pm

re: #234 Zimriel

Think Charles might consider renaming this thread, "Pamela Geller's Rancid Cologne"?

There's more than a Kölnel of truth to that.

246 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:00:16pm

re: #228 Soona'

Yeah. I thought that the world would become a smiling paradise when the lightworker was elected.

I don't know about you, but at my workplace we now start the morning with a group sing of "Obama is the Morning Star." During our mid-morning break we enjoy guest speakers from ACORN. Lunch is now catered by PETA (I found out I just love lentils and brown rice!). I hate to leave at the end of the day, but on Monday, Wednesday and Thursday I have to hurry to my precinct meeting of the new Obama volunteer corps. We're getting fitted for our new brown shirts tonight!

247 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:00:19pm

re: #234 Zimriel

Think Charles might consider renaming this thread, "Pamela Geller's Rancid Cologne"?

There's nothing like the scented charm of leather and blood.
/

248 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:00:52pm

Outa here 4 now

249 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:01:25pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

The counterjihad bolggers aren't even trying to hide it or deny it anymore. They know what they're doing and there's no doubt about it.

I couldn't agree more. And the blurb says robert might also go! I can't wait to see how they spin this.

250 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:02:14pm

re: #235 Dar ul Harbarian

Good one

Thanks but on second thought, this title's good the way it is. Geller is, literally, the face on the brochure. Charles is of course free to steal that idea for a followup post. :^)

251 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:02:17pm

re: #37 Ojoe

Clara Petacci

Now this is a pretty picture. The only other one I've seen of her is hanging by her ankles at the gas station. After the crowd got to her and that um, other guy, it was a more gruesome sight.

252 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:03:10pm

re: #198 Guanxi88

He clearly likes to play dress-up.

Yes, and he wears leather trench-coats, too.

253 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:03:12pm

Is this too serious a subject to note, this sounds like a case of Köln cancer?

254 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:03:26pm

So I'm not allowed to say I feel sorry for her kids? The woman has shot videos including her daughter where Pam appears to be very intoxicated. That's child abuse, and it makes me feel very bad for her child(ren).

What's wrong with that?

255 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:03:59pm

re: #247 Soona'

There's nothing like the scented charm of leather and blood.
/

Thought that was blood & iron (wait, that was Bismark). Blood and honor, as I recall, was one of the names or slogans of Combat88.

Are you proposing a cross-branding promotion of men's scent products, targeted to the metrosexual stormtroopers?

256 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:04:06pm

re: #253 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is this too serious a subject to note, this sounds like a case of Köln cancer?

I've been Aachen for someone to start with the puns.

257 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:04:24pm

what IS it with the World and anti-semitism anyway?....

Wait. Never mind. The world needs a scapegoat.

But now one flavor of fascist is turning on another flavor of fascist. Can't say I'm unhappy about that. Just wish they'd leave me and mine out of it

258 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:04:52pm

re: #256 calcajun

I've been Aachen for someone to start with the puns.

Welllll, let's just keep Berlin onwards.

259 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:05:03pm

re: #252 calcajun

Yes, and he wears leather trench-coats, too.

Pathetic piece of affectation, that coat. Like a Kansas corn-farmer's boy, turned 18, affecting a tweed jacket and pipe because he's majoring in literature. Simply pathetic.

260 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:05:09pm

re: #249 Sharmuta

I can't wait to see how they spin this.

I think they're done spinning. They might complain a little bit but I think in their minds they feel since the accusation has already been made they might as well keep on doing it. How much worse could it get. They're already promoting VB, BNP now pro-klon. Le Penn should be next maybe even David Duke. All it would take is a few platitudes about Israel and they'd have no problem getting on with these folks.

261 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:05:24pm

There is little doubt in my mind pamela and robert know exactly who they're dealing with. They spent so much time focusing on jihad, I don't think they care. They honestly think the best way to deal with islamic extremists is to get some extremists of their own, and if that means nazis, then so be it for them.

262 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:06:06pm

re: #255 Guanxi88

Thought that was blood & iron (wait, that was Bismark). Blood and honor, as I recall, was one of the names or slogans of Combat88.

Are you proposing a cross-branding promotion of men's scent products, targeted to the metrosexual stormtroopers?

Let's get on it. We've just discovered a new market.
/;)

263 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:06:10pm

re: #249 Sharmuta

I couldn't agree more. And the blurb says robert might also go! I can't wait to see how they spin this.

They'll spin it that their cause is noble and need as many people/groups as possible and we are the ones being narrow-minded because as we all know, their 'cause' is too important to worry about silly things like ideological clarity, let alone sanity.

264 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:06:23pm

re: #258 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Welllll, let's just keep Berlin onwards.


Hanover that pun book young man.

265 brookly red  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:06:35pm

re: #256 calcajun

I've been Aachen for someone to start with the puns.

and the punblitz begins...

266 AuntAcid  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:06:46pm

OT

Given the temperament of a Portuguese Water dog I bet the Obama's new pup won't last 30 days at the WH.

267 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:06:54pm

re: #258 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Welllll, let's just keep Berlin onwards.

Just have to maintain an even Kiel.

268 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:07:24pm

re: #249 Sharmuta

I couldn't agree more. And the blurb says robert might also go! I can't wait to see how they spin this.

Recneps Trebor has to be thinking hard about this one. He wants to be taken seriously as a scholar and overt participation in a fascist conclave would undercut that. On the other hand if he doesn't go, Geller and Belien might squeal that they've been "thrown under the little green bus".

269 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:07:25pm

re: #265 brookly red

and the punblitz begins...

You're Prussian it too far.

270 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:08:04pm

re: #262 Soona'

Let's get on it. We've just discovered a new market.
/;)

Ya know, normally, I'd make a buck off just about anybody, so long as it wasn't obviously criminal, but for this one, I can't.

There's nothing I want from nazis except that they should die. Maybe I'm a bad guy for this, but after the last go-around we had with them, I think they might be trouble.

271 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:08:09pm

re: #267 calcajun

Just have to maintain an even Kiel.

DAMN!
You used it first!

/I KIEL YOU FOR THAT!

272 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:08:32pm

re: #271 pre-Boomer Marine brat

DAMN!
You used it first!

/I KIEL YOU FOR THAT!

Hey, what're you Hohenzollern about over there?

273 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:08:48pm

re: #265 brookly red

and the punblitz begins...

some of us were just bonn for this.

274 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:08:52pm

I'm pretty sure Belien was the one who orchestrated this a few years ago. The fairly well respected post 9-11 counterjihad bloggers were used to legitimize repackaged Euro-Nazis parties.

275 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:09:08pm

re: #271 pre-Boomer Marine brat

DAMN!
You used it first!

/I KIEL YOU FOR THAT!

I'm just Bremen over with 'em today!

276 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:10:01pm

re: #275 calcajun

I'm just Bremen over with 'em today!

Oh KRUPP!

277 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:10:26pm

re: #269 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You're Prussian it too far.


I don't think that's German to the discussion at all.

278 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:10:32pm

The promotion of antisemitic conspiracy theories by the traditionally xenophobic and anti-Muslim extreme right has led to its embrace of radical Islamists. During a demonstration in Essen, for example, on 16 April, under the banner “Keine Waffen für Israel? Keine Unterstützung für Zionisten!” (No weapons for Israel! No help for Zionists), neo-Nazi Axel Reitz (‘Gauleiter Rheinland’ or ‘Gausekretär des Gau Rheinland’) linked the struggle of the Arab world against the US and Israel to that of his group Kampfbund Deutscher Sozialisten. Together, he said, they form what he called a Schicksalsgemeinschaft, a common destiny: “We are far from being as fascist and militant as Israel... The resistance [of the Arab world] even if classified as terrorism is being degraded just as our political activities [are regarded] as criminal.”

nice friends you keep pam

279 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:10:36pm

re: #274 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty sure Belien was the one who orchestrated this a few years ago. The fairly well respected post 9-11 counterjihad bloggers were used to legitimize repackaged Euro-Nazis parties.

I have to wonder how much thy were licking their chops at 9/11 perceiving their new time had come- that new allies would be forthcoming in light of such an event. Bastards.

280 Aye Pod  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:10:39pm

The shrieking inanity of evil.

281 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:11:05pm

re: #273 joecitizen

Wish you could be Holstein a website with such wit.

282 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:11:13pm

re: #277 joecitizen

I don't think that's German to the discussion at all.


They'll be heil to pay for the way this thread is heading.

283 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:11:14pm

re: #277 joecitizen

I don't think that's German to the discussion at all.

It's very Essen-tial.

/goes with "Krupp"

284 brookly red  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:11:43pm

re: #277 joecitizen

I don't think that's German to the discussion at all.

Awww don't be a worry wortspiel...

285 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:12:36pm

You folks are a gold Mainz of puns. Hamm it up.

286 rumcrook  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:12:36pm

re: #261 Sharmuta

so whats that,? kind of a "I see your fascist religious headchopping mass murderering ideology and raise you a fascist political mass murdering ideology for a full house?

287 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:12:42pm

re: #270 Guanxi88

Ya know, normally, I'd make a buck off just about anybody, so long as it wasn't obviously criminal, but for this one, I can't.

There's nothing I want from nazis except that they should die. Maybe I'm a bad guy for this, but after the last go-around we had with them, I think they might be trouble.

I was hoping desperately that someone would notice the sarc tag.

288 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:13:11pm

Uhg. These puns are like having a diet of Worms.

289 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:13:57pm

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.
A word of caution to all punsters on this thread.
We should, in decency, keep away from overtly Nazi references
.
.
.
.
/just sayin'

290 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:14:03pm

re: #288 Mithrax

Uhg. These puns are like having a diet of Worms.

And they leave a foul Oder.

291 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:14:08pm

re: #281 Dar ul Harbarian

Wish you could be Holstein a website with such wit.

I Stuttgart over one once for a friend.

292 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:14:15pm

re: #284 brookly red

Awww don't be a worry wortspiel...

I'm just Baden Baden my time.

293 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:14:22pm

re: #33 guftafs

Could somebody who knows her please stop her? She's going to get hurt one way or the other if she keeps this up.

This is what she wants. There's no stopping it.

294 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:14:39pm

Seriously. What the frak is up with this? Geller apparently doesn't care that she's lying down with the dregs of humanity - people who would just as surely attack her should the moment strike their fancy because she's not sufficiently pure for their own goals and motivations.

That means that they're playing her like a fool. She's their useful idiot - lending them legitimacy all while rendering whatever legitimacy she had moot in the eyes of the rest of the media and whoever is paying attention.

As for who's paying attention, it seems that those who are being critical of her choice of associations find themselves being attacked on a regular basis for exposing the unseemly associations. That's just flat out wrong. And she should know better.

295 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:14:57pm

re: #288 Mithrax

Uhg. These puns are like having a diet of Worms.

Wow!
*rimshot*

296 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:15:05pm

OT:
Janet Napolitano is transparent in her determination to ensure that her department is a good fit for the Obama pro-illegal Latino immigration policy. She works hard to divert attention and resources away from the embarrassing sieve called the Mexican border and the severe threat to US national security which it so obviously represents.
She tries to accomplish this by:
1. Profiling low-risk groups such as veterans, Christian fundies and other right wing groups;
2. Issuing directives to focus on employers of illegals to the virtual exclusion of any enforcement against the illegal immigrants and the vast illegal Mexican crime syndicates operating in the US with virtual impunity;
3. Calling for the repeal of policies implementing recommendations of the 9/11 commission; and,
4. Focusing resources on the Canadian border instead of the Mexican border and seeking to justify this by making idiotic and false claims that the 9/11 and other terrorists enter the US from Canada (only the unsuccessful LAX bomber, who was arrested at the border, crossed from Canada).
Napolitano is unfit.

297 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:15:22pm

I'm just piecing together the information on the actors in all this drama on the blogs since it's not really my thing. This Pamela is the one that NY Nana made a post about with a YouTube of the famous "All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up" line from Sunset Blvd?

298 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:15:23pm

re: #289 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Stay away from town names that have some painful connotations, please. We never want to make light of those places.

299 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:15:27pm

re: #288 Mithrax

Uhg. These puns are like having a diet of Worms.

There are some here on LGF that are pun Frankensteins.

300 Athos  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:15:38pm

Notice how Pamela was described as 'conservative journalist'?

From Richard Fernandez - the WSJ editorial (I read in the print edition) - Obama with the Dictators that brought up an effort of Phillipine dictator Marcos arriving in WSJ offices in NYC to use the visit as a propaganda exercise. As Richard said - Propaganda. The message for the Philippine opposition was: Behold, the Americans are with me, not you.”

The message from the use of the term 'conservative' and the participation of Pam and possibly Robert to others, in Germany, in the EU, and in the US, is see, the CONSERVATIVES are with us. It is a propaganda bonanza for those cretins brought to them by the cretins who think that the enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of how vile they are or the odious things they stand for.

Charles's opposition, and our principled opposition (those of us who stand with Charles on this) has provoked a blogwar / civil war on the subject of providing recognition and an aura of respectability to odious neo-Nazi's. Remember that Pam, and Robert, and those who call for the alliance with these neo-Nazi's are the ones who are selling out and joining with evil.

Pamela with her decision to attend has gone from being an useful idiot to an active supporter of all that she should stand against. There is no difference between her and the neo-Nazi's? Robert too if he decides to participate in this. Their character has been tested - and found profoundly lacking.

301 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:15:43pm

re: #279 Sharmuta

I think it took them a while to figure it out, probably by accident. VB and Sweden Democrats were still doing regular neo-nazi stuff after 9-11. I think they eventually stumbled upon the realization that they're hatred of Muslims had wider appeal as long as they hide their antisemitism. BNP seems to be adopting that model. I'm not sure is Le Penn or David Duke will ever make the transition but their followers will.

302 Aye Pod  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:15:46pm
Pamela Geller of “Atlas Shrugs” and Paul Belien of “Brussels Journal” have been announced as speakers at a German far right event organized by a group called “Pro Köln” — a successor to the notorious fascist group “Deutsche Liga für Volk und Heimat” (the “German League for People and Homeland”).

"It's the feeling of the people, it's the feeling of the land"

Youtube Video
303 wahabicorridor  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:16:06pm

re: #244 Irish Rose

I think about how much grief and shame Pamela is going to suffer when she finally figures out who and what these people are... it's almost enough to make me feel a twinge of sympathy.

Almost.

Actually, I think she knows. She doesn't care. She's in it for the fame. I know an LGF'er who met her. He told me whe wore some serious bling - a pave diamond ring that spelled out 'fuck you'.

Classy. She's a whore, plain and simple.

304 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:16:34pm

re: #288 Mithrax

Uhg. These puns are like having a diet of Worms.

You win.

305 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:16:40pm

re: #289 pre-Boomer Marine brat

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.
.
A word of caution to all punsters on this thread.
We should, in decency, keep away from overtly Nazi references
.
.
.
.
/just sayin'

That's right on the Bismarck.

306 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:16:44pm

re: #298 calcajun

Stay away from town names that have some painful connotations, please. We never want to make light of those places.

Yes. All part of it.
Perhaps we should move toward classical references.
I don't want to get anyone's Goethe.

307 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:16:48pm

re: #299 Soona'

There are some here on LGF that are pun Frankensteins.

It's giving us all a Bad Rappenau.

308 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:17:00pm

re: #70 Soona'

Too bad she's associating with these punks. She looks like she has a really nice rack.

Oh, FFS! Is that all you can think about?!

309 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:17:00pm

re: #287 Soona'

I was hoping desperately that someone would notice the sarc tag.

Of course I noticed it, but I went along any way. Seriously, I'm the kinda guy who's willing to at least entertain the notion of undertaking damned near any (legal) commercial enterprise, irrespective of personal beliefs. Case in point - I've imported a certain device, used for smoking tobacco during the Qing Dynasty, by none other than the Dowager Empress Cixi her own royal self, and widely used for this purpose in China even to this day, that hippies and pot heads here use for smoking other substances. I didn't think twice about it; I can spend a pot-head's money with a clean conscience.

But really, as I think about it, I couldn't make a buck off a nazi; I wouldn't even make change for one of them.

310 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:17:25pm

re: #289 pre-Boomer Marine brat

.
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.
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A word of caution to all punsters on this thread.
We should, in decency, keep away from overtly Nazi references
.
.
.
.
/just sayin'

Some things just aren't funny, though I adore Hogan's Heroes. You have to really know what you're doing to go there.

311 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:17:36pm

re: #306 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes. All part of it.
Perhaps we should move toward classical references.
I don't want to get anyone's Goethe.

In knew it was a Schubert that someone would say that. Kant imagine why.

312 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:17:44pm

re: #307 calcajun

It's giving us all a Bad Rappenau.

We need someone to Fredrick-roll the puns :P

313 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:17:55pm

Later.

314 alegrias  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:18:08pm

OT
9/11/01 family members Debra Burlingame (sister of pilot whose plane was crashed into the Pentagon) and another man whose parents died on board United Flight 93 (which crashed into the Pennsylvania countryside)

are pissed off Pres. Obama's released interrogation technique memos;

"we've given Al Qaeda our playbook"

(O'Reilly's interviewing them on Fox)

315 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:18:17pm

i remember once being at a anti nazi rally and had the problem of deciding which group of anti semites smelled worse the commies or the nazi's

316 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:18:50pm

re: #308 Sharmuta

Oh, FFS! Is that all you can think about?!

Actually, I don't think she's physically attractive at all, and certainly what's on the inside is a hell of a lot worse!

317 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:18:58pm

re: #312 Mithrax

We need someone to Fredrick-roll the puns :P

Beethoven will provide the roll-overs.

318 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:19:30pm

re: #305 solomonpanting

That's right on the Bismarck.

I have a Claused Witz.

/probably not a good one

319 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:19:50pm

This is too much for me. I'll be Bach later.

320 Soona'  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:20:08pm

re: #308 Sharmuta

Oh, FFS! Is that all you can think about?!

Well....no.....yes.....sometimes. I'm really outta here now. :)

321 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:20:10pm

re: #318 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I have a Claused Witz.

/probably not a good one

Here. have a gin and teuTonic

322 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:20:12pm

re: #5 MJ

Geller has become the Right-wing equivalent of the Neturei Karta. Where those imbeciles provided cover to antisemites such as Ahmadinejad, she provides cover for the Neo-Nazi front.

They can point to her as proof that they're not the Jew-hating Nazis of the past.

323 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:20:13pm

re: #319 doppelganglander

This is too much for me. I'll be Bach later.

Say hi to the grocery boy!

I kid, I kid....

324 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:20:14pm

this rally should be in schwienfurt so at least the pigs would have a crossing.

325 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:20:33pm

re: #311 calcajun

In knew it was a Schubert that someone would say that. Kant imagine why.

See? ... We're getting Bach to basics.

326 rumcrook  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:20:53pm

re: #303 wahabicorridor

yeah but whores at least provide a legitimate service/

327 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:20:58pm

re: #324 yochanan

this rally should be in schwienfurt so at least the pigs would have a crossing.

I'd be fine with that, if it were about 65 years in the past.

328 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:21:02pm

re: #319 doppelganglander

This is too much for me. I'll be Bach later.

Ouch.
You beat me to it.

329 Aye Pod  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:21:40pm

re: #274 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty sure Belien was the one who orchestrated this a few years ago. The fairly well respected post 9-11 counterjihad bloggers were used to legitimize repackaged Euro-Nazis parties.

That's the point that Spencer continually tries to obscure with his complaints about unfair "guilt by association". The fact is that his association with these people has given them, at least in some peoples minds - ie his loyal 'anti-jihadist' minions, in whose eyes he can do no wrong - a veneer of respectability they would otherwise not have. That's the damage he and Shrieks have done.

330 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:21:40pm

re: #139 Proud kaffir

Looking through Geller's site. she appears to be staunchly pro-Israel. She has a picture of last year's Cologne rally, where there is an Israeli flag on display.
[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

Are there pro-Israel neo-Nazis?

They "support" Israel because it's an "apartheid" state, like they wish they could be. At least- I believe that is their justification. They want to be like Israel, and Israel also offers them a place to send their Jews. It's real back-handed support.

331 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:21:48pm

re: #327 Guanxi88

yeah when the schwien got the hell bombed out of them.

332 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:22:00pm

re: #294 lawhawk

Seriously. What the frak is up with this? Geller apparently doesn't care that she's lying down with the dregs of humanity - people who would just as surely attack her should the moment strike their fancy because she's not sufficiently pure for their own goals and motivations.

That means that they're playing her like a fool. She's their useful idiot - lending them legitimacy all while rendering whatever legitimacy she had moot in the eyes of the rest of the media and whoever is paying attention.

As for who's paying attention, it seems that those who are being critical of her choice of associations find themselves being attacked on a regular basis for exposing the unseemly associations. That's just flat out wrong. And she should know better.

Apparently not, after all this time...she'd gotta be as dumb as a bag of hammers.

333 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:22:08pm

Axel Reitz looks like Macauley Culkin's Nazi twin.

Home Alone IV: Verloren im Führer Bunker

334 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:22:13pm

re: #331 yochanan

yeah when the schwien got the hell bombed out of them.

Two points for picking up the reference.

335 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:22:21pm

re: #314 alegrias

OT
9/11/01 family members Debra Burlingame (sister of pilot whose plane was crashed into the Pentagon) and another man whose parents died on board United Flight 93 (which crashed into the Pennsylvania countryside)

I remember Burlingame... she was the one who helped deep-six that wretched "International Freedom Center" at the WTC site, which was going to include exhibits bemoaning America's sins against its minorities and Native Americans.

We owe her a debt of gratitude...

336 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:23:01pm

Off to be a teletubby now. "House" is on.

337 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:23:11pm

re: #237 Sharmuta

I wonder if pamela has any idea how much the nazis are laughing at her behind her back.

It's worse than that. How does a woman get gang banged and be insentient to it? Nazis have the best date rape drug going evidently.

338 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:23:23pm

re: #297 Silvergirl

I'm just piecing together the information on the actors in all this drama on the blogs since it's not really my thing. This Pamela is the one that NY Nana made a post about with a YouTube of the famous "All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up" line from Sunset Blvd?

That cracked me up.

339 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:23:24pm

re: #329 Jimmah

That's the point that Spencer continually tries to obscure with his complaints about unfair "guilt by association". The fact is that his association with these people has given them, at least in some peoples minds - ie his loyal 'anti-jihadist' minions, in whose eyes he can do no wrong - a veneer of respectability they would otherwise not have. That's the damage he and Shrieks have done.

I guarantee they're going to start screaming "guilt by association" over this post again, and try to deny that "Pro Koln" has any connections at all to neo-Nazis.

340 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:23:46pm

re: #318 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I have a Claused Witz.

/probably not a good one

Hey Boomer, how you doin'?

341 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:24:01pm

re: #308 Sharmuta

Oh, FFS! Is that all you can think about?!

It's by design on PG's part. I almost don't blame the men.

342 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:24:18pm

Pammy's friends think of her as "Pamela Von Schtupp"

Youtube Video
343 brookly red  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:24:28pm

re: #331 yochanan

yeah when the schwien got the hell bombed out of them.

they got Reimed

344 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:24:47pm

re: #340 UncleRancher

Hey Boomer, how you doin'?

Doin' good.
Networking around for more consulting work down here.

345 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:24:54pm

re: #333 OldLineTexan

Axel Reitz looks like Macauley Culkin's Nazi twin.

Home Alone IV: Verloren im Führer Bunker

That's it! You've pegged the oily little twit to a T. "Macauley von Kulkin"

346 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:25:01pm

re: #325 pre-Boomer Marine brat

See? ... We're getting Bach to basics.

I hoped that would have remained in Haydn.

347 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:25:45pm

re: #344 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Doin' good.
Networking around for more consulting work down here.

Wish I had something for you. It's VERY slow now. All the work we have is off-shore.

348 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:25:50pm

re: #341 wrenchwench

It's by design on PG's part. I almost don't blame the men.

So, you think she had surgery, then?

But yeah, she flashes flesh for the attention.

349 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:25:53pm

Infidels!

I am trying to build the Ice Cream Truck truck bomb, but my comrades are off watching the Stanley Cup playoffs!

Blasphemy!

I think the Rangers are going to send the Capitals home. Who likes capitalism anymore anyway?

Beware! The Devils are on the loose!

350 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:25:56pm

re: #343 brookly red

they got Reimed

That's a French town! I ought to stick my Thumm in your eye.

351 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:26:06pm

re: #334 Guanxi88

we lived in schwienfurt back in the 1950s when my father was stationed there in the US ARMY. He put a flag on his car just to remind the krauts who won.

lots of good men died trying to destroy the nazi ball bearing plants that were in schwienfurt.

352 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:26:18pm

Pamela Spencer has a nice ring to it.

353 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:26:31pm

Christian Worch:

In 1974 Worch started a militant group called the Hansabande in Hamburg, along with Michael Kühnen. The group defaced Jewish cemeteries, assaulted leftists and foreigners[1], and denied the Holocaust. Worch took part in one especially well-known campaign under the motto "I am an ass to believe that Jews were gassed in Germany" (Ich Esel glaube, daß in Deutschland Juden vergast worden sind). The group gradually became the Aktionsfront Nationaler Sozialisten (ANS, Action Front of National Socialists) in 1977. Worch and Kühnen were also close to the now-banned Wiking-Jugend (Viking Youth).

354 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:27:21pm

I keep thinking about this post

re: #259 Guanxi88

and thinking that I was once an silly, affected 18 year-old.* I bet a lot of you were, too. The difference is that we affected UP, towards intelligence and sophistication.

I think the reason he's stuck, the reason he affected down is that something is deeply wrong inside. Or just evil.

*I had a thing for fountain pens, and spent money on the cartridges I just didn't have. I still have the pen, and get it out just to look at, just because.

355 alegrias  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:27:22pm

OT

Obama shaking hands with Hugo Chavez was a show of CONFIDENCE,(presumably on Obama's part) per Joe Biden, in his interview with Leslie Stahl on 60 minutes. Which will air Sunday.

Leslie Stahl says you never know what you're going to learn on 60 Minutes! See B.S.?

(Stahl's on O'Reilly of Fox)

356 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:27:43pm

re: #353 Thanos

Christian Worch: ""I am an ass (Ich Esel glaube)"

He could have left it there

357 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:27:49pm

re: #346 calcajun

I hoped that would have remained in Haydn.

Verily, the thread doth Goethe to hell in a handbasket

/(recycling, in a different meaning)

358 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:28:02pm

re: #348 Guanxi88

So, you think she had surgery, then?

But yeah, she flashes flesh for the attention.

I don't know how they got there. I'm just saying she makes sure everybody knows where they are.

359 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:28:29pm

re: #355 alegrias

OT

Obama shaking hands with Hugo Chavez was a show of CONFIDENCE,(presumably on Obama's part) per Joe Biden, in his interview with Leslie Stahl on 60 minutes. Which will air Sunday.

Leslie Stahl says you never know what you're going to learn on 60 Minutes! See B.S.?

(Stahl's on O'Reilly of Fox)

Ah Joe, Joe, Joe. What a card.

360 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:29:00pm

re: #351 yochanan

we lived in schwienfurt back in the 1950s when my father was stationed there in the US ARMY. He put a flag on his car just to remind the krauts who won.

lots of good men died trying to destroy the nazi ball bearing plants that were in schwienfurt.

I know - it was one of the many places that got the bejeezus bombed out of it during the war. These guys, they need a time machine, so they can live out their little fantasies for themselves. I'd prefer they douse themselves in gasoline and stand out in the streets of Dresden on or about the evening of 14 February 1945.

361 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:29:03pm

re: #352 Spare O'Lake

Pamela Spencer has a nice ring to it.

How about Pamela Reitz?

362 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:29:04pm

re: #305 solomonpanting

That's right on the Bismarck.

I'm hungry but I'm outta buns or I think I'd have me a Weimar.

363 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:29:53pm

re: #347 UncleRancher

Wish I had something for you. It's VERY slow now. All the work we have is off-shore.

A lot of outsourcing going on here, because no one's hiring but there's work which still has to get done. TI's urged oldtimers into taking retirement, but discovered that, in some cases, no one knows how to do their jobs.

364 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:30:04pm

re: #362 joecitizen

I'm hungry but I'm outta buns or I think I'd have me a Weimar.

Or a Frankfurter.

365 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:30:13pm

re: #358 wrenchwench

I don't know how they got there. I'm just saying she makes sure everybody knows where they are.

Pictures... We need pictures to make an accurate assessment.

366 jcm  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:30:33pm

re: #350 calcajun

That's a French town! I ought to stick my Thumm in your eye.

Ach, I Dresden pun threads.

367 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:30:40pm

re: #337 The Shadow Do

I'm really not cool with your metaphor.

368 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:30:57pm

re: #360 Guanxi88

frankly my only regret about droping nukes on Japan during the war was that berlin didn't get one.

but then the soviets did a good job of payback to the nazi's no tears here for them.

369 Sosigado  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:31:26pm

re: #316 Mithrax

Actually, I don't think she's physically attractive at all, and certainly what's on the inside is a hell of a lot worse!

And 15 minutes of that voice over a loudspeaker would have extracted immediate confessions from the enemy combatants at Gitmo.

370 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:31:27pm

I'm off to a ball game.

371 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:32:07pm

re: #363 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A lot of outsourcing going on here, because no one's hiring but there's work which still has to get done. TI's urged oldtimers into taking retirement, but discovered that, in some cases, no one knows how to do their jobs.

Yes, that happens too. Can you say cross-training? We have to look at that aspect every time someone decides to go play in another playpen.

372 Bloodnok  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:32:08pm

re: #370 MandyManners

I'm off to a ball game.

Go team.

373 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:32:19pm

re: #357 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Verily, the thread doth Goethe to hell in a handbasket

/(recycling, in a different meaning)

Yes. This thread, it Rotz.

374 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:32:45pm

re: #368 yochanan

frankly my only regret about droping nukes on Japan during the war was that berlin didn't get one.

but then the soviets did a good job of payback to the nazi's no tears here for them.

LeMay gave it to them good as they gave.

375 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:32:49pm

re: #365 UncleRancher

Pictures... We need pictures to make an accurate assessment.

Do a search on YouTube. She's not shy. Then look for the word "almost" in my #341.

376 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:33:19pm

re: #354 EmmmieG

I keep thinking about this post

and thinking that I was once an silly, affected 18 year-old.* I bet a lot of you were, too. The difference is that we affected UP, towards intelligence and sophistication.

I think the reason he's stuck, the reason he affected down is that something is deeply wrong inside. Or just evil.

*I had a thing for fountain pens, and spent money on the cartridges I just didn't have. I still have the pen, and get it out just to look at, just because.

I think you're on the right track; I imagine he suffers from such insecurities, such crushing self-doubt and shame, that identifying with these Nazis is a step UP for him. That is, his soul is so rotten and malformed that these images are a source of inspiration and the target of aspiration.

With you, it was the fountain pen, instrument of a refined and elegant writing style and technique, from a classical time, used by those who were better educated, better cultured, than you were then, but whom you wished to emulate in some small way. For him, it's the shiny leather(ette) trench coat and the black uniforms; these people he emulates and apes are better than he is, which tells me his soul is low, his spirit rotten, his mind warped, and, worst of all for him, he knows himself to be a wretched and powerless worm.

377 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:33:41pm

re: #362 joecitizen

I'm hungry but I'm outta buns or I think I'd have me a Weimar.

If but eating one would make Frankfurt.

378 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:33:49pm

re: #367 Sharmuta

I'm really not cool with your metaphor.

It is crude and for that I apologize. She is being used and ignorant evidently of her situation.

Again, I know it was offensive. Sorry

379 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:06pm

re: #374 Dar ul Harbarian

LeMay gave it to them good as they gave.

Or was it LeMay?

380 Aye Pod  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:08pm

re: #339 Charles

I guarantee they're going to start screaming "guilt by association" over this post again, and try to deny that "Pro Koln" has any connections at all to neo-Nazis.

It's an invalid defence, but apparently the only one they have got. Aside from calling everyone a liar of course.

381 Zimriel  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:09pm

re: #368 yochanan

frankly my only regret about droping nukes on Japan during the war was that berlin didn't get one.

but then the soviets did a good job of payback to the nazi's no tears here for them.

Tokyo didn't get one either. The nukes were set for cities which were boom towns of the Meiji era and later, not for cities of ancient historical significance.

In Germany, Dresden did have cultural significance; and it may as well have been nuked.

382 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:18pm

re: #366 jcm

Ach, I Dresden pun threads.

Wanasee how bad it can get?

383 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:19pm

re: #368 yochanan

frankly my only regret about droping nukes on Japan during the war was that berlin didn't get one.

but then the soviets did a good job of payback to the nazi's no tears here for them.

Yeah, i'd say having the red army running around the place for a couple weeks would be the equivalent of at least three or four nukes, in terms of destructive capacity and all-out gotterdammerung payback.

384 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:27pm

re: #375 wrenchwench

Do a search on YouTube. She's not shy. Then look for the word "almost" in my #341.

So, it's "almost but not quite", eh?

385 researchok  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:33pm

What is troubling is that none of these heroic Euro-anti jihad figures have renounced their past racist beliefs and affiliations. What is more troubling is how readily these same newly minted Euro-anti jihadis are being adopted by some many American anti jihadists.

386 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:33pm

re: #370 MandyManners

Taking the stick with you, or leaving it here?//

387 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:33pm

re: #377 calcajun

If but eating one would make Frankfurt.

Weimar the thread with that stuff?

388 Teacake!  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:54pm

Maybe she will get a real bone chilling while mingling and wake up. She has to realize they hate Jews just as much as muslims.

389 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:34:57pm

Its time to go feed the livestock. Take care all. UR

390 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:35:32pm

re: #379 Dar ul Harbarian

Or was it LeMay?

Huh? Curtis LeMay. General. Lot's of bombers. Loved the smell of napalm anytime of day.

391 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:35:51pm

re: #389 UncleRancher

Its time to go feed the livestock. Take care all. UR

Good night!
I'll be outta here in a bit.

392 jcm  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:36:04pm

re: #382 lawhawk

Wanasee how bad it can get?

Pretty Baden Baden, I think.

Gotta run..........

393 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:36:37pm

re: #384 UncleRancher

So, it's "almost but not quite", eh?

There's no doubt in my mind that men and women see things differently. I try to make allowances as needed.

394 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:36:40pm

re: #382 lawhawk

Wanasee how bad it can get?

--sorry--bad suburb name to pun on.

395 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:36:42pm

re: #392 jcm

Pretty Baden Baden, I think.

Gotta run..........

Good night.

396 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:36:48pm

re: #377 calcajun

If but eating one would make Frankfurt.

Don't be a sauerkraut.

397 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:36:49pm

re: #390 calcajun

Huh? Curtis LeMay. General. Lot's of bombers. Loved the smell of napalm anytime of day.

That's the thing about incendiaries - they work every time. Be it jellied fuel, metal/oxide, or any of the other little sparklers, they deliver more destruction, pound for pound, than just about any other type of conventional munition.

398 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:37:22pm

re: #222 Salamantis

Yeah, but what was the cologne of Hitler? It's rancid ordure seems to permeate these parties of which Pamela & Co. seem so fond.

/don't wanna buy that fragrance to be antijihad

This may lower the bar, but that fragrance would be Rathskiller.

399 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:37:25pm

re: #368 yochanan

The weapon you speak of was used to save lives not to punish.

400 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:37:30pm

re: #392 jcm

Baden Baden.

The town so nice, they named it twice.

401 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:37:32pm

re: #390 calcajun

Huh? Curtis LeMay. General. Lot's of bombers. Loved the smell of napalm anytime of day.

Who commanded the Army Air Corp over Europe? LeMay was in charge in the Pacific, but who ran the show in Europe?

402 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:37:57pm

I've got to get stuff done before tomorrow.
Good night all.

403 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:38:09pm

re: #352 Spare O'Lake

Pamela Spencer has a nice ring to it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Pamela seems to have fallen by the wayside over at JW, following the recent revelation at PoliGazette that acknowledges that she is indeed, a raving bigoted nutcase.

I may have missed it, but I don't see that he has said a single word in her defense in any forum that would link her name with Spencer/Jihadwatch.

He's also not accepted the invite to join Pamela at this conference (yet).

404 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:38:22pm

re: #402 pre-Boomer Marine brat

'Nite.

405 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:38:46pm

re: #389 UncleRancher

Its time to go feed the livestock. Take care all. UR

How many kids do you have?

406 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:38:50pm

re: #378 The Shadow Do

It is crude and for that I apologize. She is being used and ignorant evidently of her situation.

Again, I know it was offensive. Sorry

Very classy, Shadow. I like the respect you're showing in honoring an objection. Upding.

407 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:38:59pm

From a thread the other day:

“Not only that,” said Bodissey, “he made it harder for certain American anti-jihad groups to raise funds if they failed to repudiate his designated ‘fascist-enablers’ like us.”

More attacks will come, because they're pissed about the lost revenue, and the truth isn't on their side. They have nothing to work with except attempting to discredit the critics.

Their ideals are bloody, and utterly rancid. To save their civilization, they would destroy it. They belong in the same dust heap as any other bloody, vile ideology.

408 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:39:02pm

re: #401 Dar ul Harbarian

Who commanded the Army Air Corp over Europe? LeMay was in charge in the Pacific, but who ran the show in Europe?

Generals Ira Eaker and Carl Spaatz for the USAAF

409 jaunte  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:41:33pm

re: #380 Jimmah

It's an invalid defence, but apparently the only one they have got. Aside from calling everyone a liar of course.

One defense I've seen is to talk about how complicated the issue is; the "who's the real nazi" argument, which is connected to the distraction of suggested negative consequences from not supporting every group that opposes a muslim population in Europe.

410 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:42:18pm

Never post impulsively, corollary to IF rule 1.

411 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:42:31pm

re: #378 The Shadow Do

It is crude and for that I apologize. She is being used and ignorant evidently of her situation.

Pamela Geller is absolutely NOT ignorant of her situation.

412 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:44:25pm

re: #411 Charles

Pamela Geller is absolutely NOT ignorant of her situation.


Bad de la bad in that case.

413 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:44:47pm

re: #339 Charles

I guarantee they're going to start screaming "guilt by association" over this post again, and try to deny that "Pro Koln" has any connections at all to neo-Nazis.


Rouhs and Beisicht are trying to deny their Nazi-past, but - besides from hostilities from the militant Nazi-scene - at least in the case of Beisicht, there are still contacts: in 2007, he met with other European rightwing-extremists and Nazis, among them NPD-leader Udo Voigt. And he was also an attorney for Axel Reitz not so long ago (three years or so).

414 Athos  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:44:53pm

re: #382 lawhawk

Wanasee how bad it can get?

These puns are going to Kiel me.

415 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:44:55pm

re: #401 Dar ul Harbarian

Who commanded the Army Air Corp over Europe? LeMay was in charge in the Pacific, but who ran the show in Europe?

Bomber Harris for the British. The American commmand was divided. Jimmy Doolitle was one.

416 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:45:24pm

re: #409 jaunte

Petty talk. This goes down in the annals of 'everything is relative and the situational perspective absolves any responsibility'

Thats just a load of tosh.

They know what they are doing. We teach a 2 yr old how to be responsible for his own actions and dissuade that in a 18 yr old Somalian who comes from another country.

Its just hypocritical.

417 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:46:04pm

re: #378 The Shadow Do

It is crude and for that I apologize. She is being used and ignorant evidently of her situation.

Again, I know it was offensive. Sorry

Thank you for apologizing. Even though I disagree vehemently with pamela, I want to keep this ideological, and keep gender out of this as much as possible. I certainly have my opinion on that, of course, but it can really be summed up in one sentence, and likewise relates to everything else- I don't think pamela respects herself. Which might explain why she's hanging out with nazis.

418 Spartacus50  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:46:44pm

fuckin' Nazis

419 Athos  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:46:48pm

re: #415 Nevergiveup

Bomber Harris for the British. The American commmand was divided. Jimmy Doolitle was one.

Also Carl Spaatz and Ira Eaker.

420 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:47:05pm

re: #412 The Shadow Do

Bad de la bad in that case.

Or nuts de la nuts...

421 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:47:10pm

re: #408 calcajun

Generals Ira Eaker and Carl Spaatz for the USAAF

Thanks. I was looking it up and bumped into this

Table 4. USAAF Casualties In European, North African, and Mediterranean
Theaters of Operation, 1942-1946 (Derived from Department of the Army,
"Army Battle Casualties and Nonbattle Deaths in World War Il-Final Report"
[Washington, DC: Dept of Army, GPO, June 1, 19531, pp. 84-88)

A part of the Butcher's Bill for liberating Europe.

422 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:49:26pm

You know that there is a sway of people who still deny that the Nazis fled to places such as Argentina and Egypt. And yet .. when people are found to be living in these countries .. its always 'just a coincidence'

It would be comedy if it wasnt playing with peoples' lives.

423 jaunte  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:49:29pm

re: #417 Sharmuta


Even though I disagree vehemently with pamela, I want to keep this ideological, and keep gender out of this as much as possible.

This is a wise choice.

424 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:50:44pm

re: #361 Dar ul Harbarian

How about Pamela Reitz?

She has to be a foot taller than the little Stürmstumpen.

425 Aye Pod  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:51:37pm

I see Robert Spencer is now peddling a version of the "you can't impose democracy blah blah" meme regarding Afghanistan.

426 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:52:38pm

re: #423 jaunte

Thank you.

(Also- self-respect isn't a gender issue. Just sayin'.)

427 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:53:01pm

OT "You may wake up one morning as a Canadian!"

Youtube Video

I like the way the guy keeps feeling his face, in case his head has split in two, a la "South Park"

428 Randall Gross  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:53:07pm

re: #425 Jimmah

I see Robert Spencer is now peddling a version of the "you can't impose democracy blah blah" meme regarding Afghanistan.

Exactly, this group of Weyrich kool aid drinkers are Paleos, and the paleos are opposed to our anti terror efforts. They are isolationist and want us to pull out. That article comes from VB hugger, Diane West.

429 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:53:26pm

"I HATE Nazis!"
Indiana Jones

430 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:53:31pm

re: #399 unrealizedviewpoint

for some reason the Americans & Brits decided we needed the Germans in the cold war and we decided to go rather lightly on the captured Germans only a few big shots were punished were in my opinion if you were a member of the SS you should have seen jail time and if you had civilian blood on your hands you should have gotten at least life in prison or the gallows.

431 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:54:01pm

re: #408 calcajun

Generals Ira Eaker and Carl Spaatz for the USAAF


Hope they and Sir Arthur Harris have good successors. Just in case.

432 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:54:31pm

re: #415 Nevergiveup

Bomber Harris for the British. The American commmand was divided. Jimmy Doolitle was one.

His was the 15th USAAF. Spaatz/Eaker ran the 8th.

433 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:56:33pm

re: #427 Alouette

my grandfather went to Canada first before coming to America

could i be a Canadian EH?

434 Wildcat  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:57:05pm

Charles is always attacking people that I like. This is getting old.

435 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:57:36pm

re: #434 Wildcat

You like a lot of Nazis?

436 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:57:45pm

re: #430 yochanan

for some reason the Americans & Brits decided we needed the Germans in the cold war and we decided to go rather lightly on the captured Germans only a few big shots were punished were in my opinion if you were a member of the SS you should have seen jail time and if you had civilian blood on your hands you should have gotten at least life in prison or the gallows.

Yes, way to light on them. Even worse with the lack of prosecution of the Japanese, in fact much worse. Japan never had to eat her guilt, not even to this day. Real Politic was born under the threat of the USSR.

437 Nick Ferguson  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:58:14pm
Youtube Video
438 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:58:30pm

re: #434 Wildcat

Charles is always attacking people that I like. This is getting old.

You got a man-crush on Reitz?

439 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:58:32pm

re: #434 Wildcat

Charles is always attacking people that I like. This is getting old.

waddayanuts?

440 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:58:37pm

re: #436 The Shadow Do

Yes, way to light on them. Even worse with the lack of prosecution of the Japanese, in fact much worse. Japan never had to eat her guilt, not even to this day. Real Politic was born under the threat of the USSR.

USSR wasn't around when Bismarck perfected it.

441 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:58:59pm

re: #434 Wildcat

What's the problem if we're spitting on nazis?

442 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:59:16pm

re: #434 Wildcat

Charles is always attacking people that I like. This is getting old.

Got the hots for Pam? Or maybe Robert?

443 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:59:28pm

Perhaps there needs be another Form Letter?

444 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:59:28pm

re: #436 The Shadow Do

MY father was at Pearl on that dec 7th at least he survived or i would not be here.

445 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:59:48pm

I feel no need to be pleasant to nazis.

446 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 5:59:55pm

re: #434 Wildcat

Charles is always attacking people that I like. This is getting old.

Maybe you like the wrong people.

447 researchok  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:00:12pm

I just want to know if any of these Euro-anti jihadi parties are funding/payingf any of these bloggers.

Disclosure on the subject would be nice.

448 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:00:48pm

re: #443 solomonpanting

Perhaps there needs be another Form Letter?

There is!

FASCIST APOLOGIST FORM LETTER
Dear Chuckie,

I’m a
[] longtime poster who's stunned at your new direction
[] lurking downdinger
[] sockpuppet

who just read your post on
[] the British National Party
[] Robert Spencer
[] Pamela Geller
[] someone who once appeared on The Political Cesspool
[] Eurofascism
[] Gates of Vienna

and I am feeling
[] defensive
[] saddened
[] betrayed, befuddled, bewildered
[] so angry I could spit

I am not a fascist apologist. Some of my best friends are
[] neo-Nazis
[] blood-and-soil Europeans
[] neo-Confederate skinheads
[] *mumble*

and according to the great
[] Alex Jones
[] Lew Rockwell
[] Ron Paul

there are too many of those people. You know who I mean.

What about
[] Zionazis?
[] 9-11 was an inside job?
[] mass deportations?
[] the central bankers?
[] racial holy war!

Huh? I’m just saying we have to fight jihad. In conclusion
[] you’re an Obama stooge
[] I’ll be praying for you
[] Just sayin’
[] Please delete my account

Cheers,
[your signature here]

449 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:00:53pm

re: #446 Alouette

Maybe you like the wrong people.

The take-home message is be careful who your friends are.

450 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:01:55pm

re: #448 Sharmuta

I shoulda known better.

451 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:02:47pm

re: #445 Sharmuta

I feel no need to be pleasant to nazis.

Care for some more tea, Mr. Goering? Yeah, I can't imagine myself being all that cordial with them either.

452 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:03:04pm

frankly i can't stand nazi, islmo fascist or commies.

453 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:03:11pm

re: #430 yochanan

for some reason the Americans & Brits decided we needed the Germans in the cold war and we decided to go rather lightly on the captured Germans only a few big shots were punished were in my opinion if you were a member of the SS you should have seen jail time and if you had civilian blood on your hands you should have gotten at least life in prison or the gallows.


Yes, and I think it would have also been better to abolish the political basis for the Nazi-Ideology.

454 Dar ul Harbarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:03:14pm

Home invasion!
Need to get the snacks out!
cya

455 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:03:24pm

re: #448 Sharmuta

Good golly miss molly, you're fast!

456 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:03:27pm

Be sure to give the original Fascist Clip 'n Save Letter a ding.

457 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:03:43pm

re: #440 Mithrax

USSR wasn't around when Bismarck perfected it.

Note to Shadow: never wade in publicly where you do not know the facts. Addressing the Communist threat caught my attention in my time as it were, but did not teach me history obviously.

458 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:04:02pm

re: #455 Silvergirl

Stuck it in my favorites. It's as classic as the creationist version.

459 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:04:10pm

re: #438 Dar ul Harbarian

You got a man-crush on Reitz?

I hear a lot of people do--he's got that Ernst Rohm bad-boy thing going.

460 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:04:46pm

re: #451 Guanxi88

Care for some more tea, Mr. Goering? Yeah, I can't imagine myself being all that cordial with them either.

You could always spit in their tea like Whoopi's character did in The color Purple. That was a satisfying bit.

461 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:04:51pm

re: #453 gegenkritik

there is no reason to keep AUSTRIA on the map either. snicklegruber was from Austria

462 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:05:00pm

re: #434 Wildcat
Let me call the waahbulance. Those people Charles has cited are nazi thugs, nothing more, nothing less. Pam has laid down with the dogs and is covered in fleas.

463 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:05:24pm

re: #459 calcajun

I hear a lot of people do--he's got that Ernst Rohm bad-boy thing going.

Either von Kulkin, as noted earlier, or a sort of Neil Patrick Harris gone horribly wrong.

464 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:05:56pm

re: #460 Silvergirl

You could always spit in their tea like Whoopi's character did in The color Purple. That was a satisfying bit.

If I had access to Herr Goering's tea, spit would be the least harmful thing I'd put in it.

465 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:06:00pm

re: #460 Silvergirl

You could always spit in their tea...

Not the bodily fluid I would use.

466 alegrias  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:06:01pm

re: #430 yochanan

for some reason the Americans & Brits decided we needed the Germans in the cold war and we decided to go rather lightly on the captured Germans only a few big shots were punished were in my opinion if you were a member of the SS you should have seen jail time and if you had civilian blood on your hands you should have gotten at least life in prison or the gallows.

* * * *
For some reason the Americans and the coalition decided we need the Iraqis in the war against islamist extremism...

Duh. How are you going to jail millions of people, except in a leftist GULAG?

467 NY Nana  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:06:06pm

re: #417 Sharmuta

IMHO, she is so full of herself, and such an attention whore, that she would go there, knowing full well that she is happily consorting with neo-nazis...her alleged love for Israel is, IMHO, as dishonest as she is.

It is 2 days after Holocaust Remembrance Day, only 2 days. Remember how she tried to wriggle out of her comment that 'all Jews in Europe did whatever they had to do, and acted just like all the Europeans...dirty business with money, etc.'....I wish I had saved that specific comment the night she spit on Charles. When we went after her for what she said? She then started her crocodile tears over her family members HY"D, who were lost in the camps and the ovens...to use these martyrs like that?!?!?

As a Jew, I was in shock, but so angry that I can't even remember what I posted to her.

How does anyone justify going to see, and join in with, the current generation that are descendants of the very nazis that killed our families with such glee, right after Holocaust Remembrance Day, how can they? I am still both sad and feel so sick over those who were in my grandparents' ZT"L families who we lost.

I will bet she made mention of it on her hate site..I do not go there unless someone asks me to look at something she said.

And all these trips, when she is a single mother who has 4 daughters still home? I don't think that the oldest is university age yet.

As I have said before, I feel so badly for them. She uses them as adornments.

I do not know how she can look in the mirror, but at the same time have a feeling that she does that every 3 seconds.

468 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:06:44pm

re: #456 Sharmuta

Be sure to give the original Fascist Clip 'n Save Letter a ding.

Ding, done.

469 funky chicken  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:07:35pm

re: #339 Charles

I guarantee they're going to start screaming "guilt by association" over this post again, and try to deny that "Pro Koln" has any connections at all to neo-Nazis.

A picture says a thousand words, and you've got quite a few of them...

470 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:07:40pm

re: #444 yochanan

MY father was at Pearl on that dec 7th at least he survived or i would not be here.

My mother was there too! She suffered a concussion from a bomb blast at Hickam Field while throwing potatoes at the low flying Japanese planes. True story. She should have had the purple heart for that one!

471 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:07:56pm

Now after the reply to the whiner, Good Afternoon/Evening all.

472 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:07:59pm

Crazy Pamela sez.....

UPDATE: Just for knowing, I have not committed to go. If anything changes will let you know


I'm surprised that she's now thinking of backing out. I was sure she'd stick to it.

473 Idle Drifter  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:08:50pm

re: #434 Wildcat

Last time I check we fought a World War with Nazis and Fascists in Europe.

474 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:08:56pm

re: #467 NY Nana

IMHO, she is so full of herself, and such an attention whore, that she would go there, knowing full well that she is happily consorting with neo-nazis...

I do not know how she can look in the mirror, but at the same time have a feeling that she does that every 3 seconds.

It's not that hard, really; remember, you can only sell your soul once; after that, it's life as usual.

In her case, when she looks at the mirror, she sees nothing. Trust me, there's nothing there.

475 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:08:58pm

re: #472 Killgore Trout

Crazy Pamela sez.....


I'm surprised that she's now thinking of backing out. I was sure she'd stick to it.

I clued her in that von Kulkin is a shrimp.

/

476 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:09:19pm

re: #472 Killgore Trout
If it's an ego thing, she'll go. Adoring crowds. etc. That pic of that one little shit in the faux leather coat is creepy.

477 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:09:30pm

re: #464 Guanxi88

If I had access to Herr Goering's tea, spit would be the least harmful thing I'd put in it.

"Next time, I'll put a littIe Shug Avery pee in his gIass . . . and see how he like that."

478 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:10:14pm

re: #467 NY Nana

How does anyone justify going to see, and join in with, the current generation that are descendants of the very nazis that killed our families with such glee, right after Holocaust Remembrance Day, how can they? I am still both sad and feel so sick over those who were in my grandparents' ZT"L families who we lost.

You can't, it's simply unthinkable.

479 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:10:35pm

re: #470 The Shadow Do

my father was being sent to the US ENTERPRISE he was waiting for it to come back to pearl. lucky for him and them they were out to sea on the 7th.

480 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:10:39pm

re: #476 pingjockey

If it's an ego thing, she'll go. Adoring crowds. etc. That pic of that one little shit in the faux leather coat is creepy.

And the really disturbing thing is, he thinks it looks great on him.

481 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:10:44pm

{Nana}

482 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:10:53pm

re: #467 NY Nana

Hey there, I mentioned you upthread.

483 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:10:55pm

re: #470 The Shadow Do

My mother was there too! She suffered a concussion from a bomb blast at Hickam Field while throwing potatoes at the low flying Japanese planes. True story. She should have had the purple heart for that one!

You sure she just wasn't trying to make julienne fries with the props on the Zeroes?/////

484 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:11:32pm

Later! Have to go to a social event. No Nazis allowed.

485 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:11:35pm

re: #480 Guanxi88
He looks like he could be Ernst Roehms(sp) butt boy.

486 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:11:37pm

re: #481 Sharmuta

{Nana}

You're a good one, Sharm.

487 Summer Seale  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:11:54pm

re: #434 Wildcat

Charles is always attacking people that I like. This is getting old.

"Why does he persecute me like this?"

488 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:12:38pm

re: #485 pingjockey

He looks like he could be Ernst Roehms(sp) butt boy.

Worse than that, is the truth of the guy. Please see our discussions upthread about the coat and its symbolism.

489 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:12:59pm

re: #480 Guanxi88

And the really disturbing thing is, he thinks it looks great on him.

Now, this is where fashion is so unfair. Put a leather coat like that on a girl and she looks hot. Put it on a black guy and he looks like Shaft. But on a white guy, he's a Nazi. It's not fair.///

490 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:13:29pm

re: #472 Killgore Trout

Crazy Pamela sez.....


I'm surprised that she's now thinking of backing out. I was sure she'd stick to it.

Heh.

I would love to eavesdrop on the phone conversations going on among these creeps right now.

491 Guanxi88  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:13:29pm

re: #489 calcajun

Now, this is where fashion is so unfair. Put a leather coat like that on a girl and she looks hot. Put it on a black guy and he looks like Shaft. But on a white guy, he's a Nazi. It's not fair.///

I don't make the rules, I just notice them. And the rule applies.

492 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:13:43pm

re: #429 IslandLibertarian

"I HATE Nazis!"
Indiana Jones

And snakes

493 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:14:08pm

re: #485 pingjockey

He looks like he could be Ernst Roehms(sp) butt boy.

(Butt) Pirates of the Rhineland?////

494 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:14:11pm

re: #461 yochanan

there is no reason to keep AUSTRIA on the map either. snicklegruber was from Austria


Correct. In today's Austria, far-right-parties like the FPÖ are really successful. In the other post-nazi state, the ideology is different: they are declaring peace to the whole world, especially to all enemies of the USA and Israel, may it be Saddam's Iraq, the Iran or jihadist-rackets like Hamas and Hizb-Allah.
And of course there are huge sympathies of for the brave struggle of the poor Palestinians, 99 of 100 Germans are pro Palestine.

495 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:14:21pm

re: #488 Guanxi88
Man, I just got home from work. I ain't goin' back up there! Plus when you do, didja ever notice how far behind you get trying to read the new posts?! Absolutely insane.

496 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:14:35pm

re: #486 Guanxi88

I know Nana fairly well. We talk on the phone from time to time, and I can just imagine her. There isn't much I can really say about the Shoah and pamela's actions that would be of much use, so all I can do is think to give her a hug.

497 NY Nana  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:14:39pm

re: #422 Buster Bunny

/And Adolf Eichmann *spit*, the only POS ever executed in Israel, where a special law was passed, as there is no death penalty, was singing 'Don't cry for me, Argentina' when he was taken into custody there, and then taken to Israel for trial.

498 OldLineTexan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:14:49pm

re: #489 calcajun

Now, this is where fashion is so unfair. Put a leather coat like that on a girl and she looks hot. Put it on a black guy and he looks like Shaft. But on a white guy, he's a Nazi. It's not fair.///

It's the funeral director suit and the black leather gloves. He's going for The Look. Even the haircut and the pursed lip smile. The little twit has studied photos.

499 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:15:10pm

re: #494 gegenkritik

you could say that about almost all of euroland.

500 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:15:22pm

re: #491 Guanxi88

I know--but so few of us can carry that look.

501 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:15:47pm

re: #494 gegenkritik

Correct. In today's Austria, far-right-parties like the FPÖ are really successful. In the other post-nazi state, the ideology is different: they are declaring peace to the whole world, especially to all enemies of the USA and Israel, may it be Saddam's Iraq, the Iran or jihadist-rackets like Hamas and Hizb-Allah.
And of course there are huge sympathies of for the brave struggle of the poor Palestinians, 99 of 100 Germans are pro Palestine.

They love the suffering of the poor, pitiful Palestinians, because it lessens their guilt, they can explain to themselves "Those Jews really deserved it, look how they are treating the (poor, pitiful) Palestinians"

502 astronmr20  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:16:11pm

Late to the thread.

Let me explain this in context; in no way to I mean to demean women by this statement:

Geller has allowed them to make her their whore.

503 Gus  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:16:15pm

NEW FRONT FOR THE GERMAN FAR RIGHT

Anti-Islamic Party Is Playing With Fear
By Andrea Brandt and Guido Kleinhubbert

Right-wing radicals in Cologne are gaining traction with Germany's first anti-Islamic party. The German domestic intelligence agency is alarmed -- but so are traditional neo-Nazis, who may have to shift their tactics to compete.

The four young men look unremarkable in Cologne's downtown pedestrian zone. Now and then they press a pamphlet into somebody's hand with a smile. They seem as harmless as volunteers gathering donations for, say, starving children in Africa; but their project belongs to a political movement that is being viewed with alarm by intelligence officers in the state of North-Rhine Westphalia.

From a photo caption:

Not just about the mosque: The "Pro Köln" movement has roots in the German far right.

Nazi-Aufmarsch - Axel Reitz

504 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:16:29pm

re: #498 OldLineTexan

The little twit has studied photos.

Who's? Heydrich or Madonna?

505 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:16:39pm

re: #493 calcajun
Mwahaha!
BTW, if you are going to wear a caot like that, for cryin' out load get help picking it out! It's like a fedora or cowboy hat, you have to look a while to find one that suits you. That little weenie just looks spooky, not intimidating.

506 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:17:06pm

re: #479 yochanan

my father was being sent to the US ENTERPRISE he was waiting for it to come back to pearl. lucky for him and them they were out to sea on the 7th.

Hell yes it was. My mom had arrived at Pearl to meet my Dad, they were newly weds. When she got to Hawaii she found his unit (AAC) had been sent a few days earlier to Clark in the Philippines. Then war found them both.

Probly make a good movie...

507 NY Nana  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:18:00pm

re: #472 Killgore Trout

/She must read LGF.

508 seagreenroom  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:18:02pm

I wish she'd reconsider who she's associating with. She speaks the truth on many issues that I hold dear. But she's going to ruin her reputation with stuff like this.

509 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:18:28pm

re: #490 Charles

I'm sure Spencer's on the phone with his lawyer.

510 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:18:39pm

The one thing about Nazis that I can not fault them for is that they wear their hatred right on their sleeve. There's no doubt about their rabid animal hatred.
It's the sneaky Left Wing that talks all "equality" this and that, all the while formulating their racist/anti America agenda behind your back.

/the creepiness of it all......Nazis in 2009.....commies disguised as "progressives"

511 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:18:52pm

re: #507 NY Nana

I'm sure she does.

512 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:19:23pm

re: #490 Charles

Heh.

I would love to eavesdrop on the phone conversations going on among these creeps right now.

NSA!

513 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:19:40pm

Jeez....put some wire-rimmed glasses on Axel Reitz and he could be the spitting image of Dietr from Sprockets.

514 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:19:42pm

re: #506 The Shadow Do

Hell yes it was. My mom had arrived at Pearl to meet my Dad, they were newly weds. When she got to Hawaii she found his unit (AAC) had been sent a few days earlier to Clark in the Philippines. Then war found them both.

Probly make a good movie...

You could call it something like .. um .. PEARL HARBOUR ..

yes .. what a great title for a blockbuster movie like that ...

/sarc

515 Sunlight  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:19:46pm

re: #364 solomonpanting

Or a Frankfurter.

With sour krauts on top.

516 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:19:52pm

re: #506 The Shadow Do

Hell yes it was. My mom had arrived at Pearl to meet my Dad, they were newly weds. When she got to Hawaii she found his unit (AAC) had been sent a few days earlier to Clark in the Philippines. Then war found them both.

Probly make a good movie...

Get a tape recorder. Put it in front of them. Turn it on. Get them to talk--now. The WWII Museum in NOLA is compiling oral histories from all veterans willing to talk. You folks--and their memories- are an invaluable resource. Please, do something to preserve their testimonies.

517 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:19:56pm

re: #512 joecitizen

DHS!

518 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:20:22pm

re: #502 astronmr20

Late to the thread.

Let me explain this in context; in no way to I mean to demean women by this statement:

Geller has allowed them to make her their whore.

Well, when you lie down with nazis.....

519 drogheda  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:20:32pm

re: #502 astronmr20

Late to the thread.

Let me explain this in context; in no way to I mean to demean women by this statement:

Geller has allowed them to make her their whore.

The French had a certain way of handling that after liberation.

520 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:20:58pm

re: #503 Gus 802

NEW FRONT FOR THE GERMAN FAR RIGHT

Nazi-Aufmarsch - Axel Reitz

Additionally- those posters were later used by other groups. Why- here's filip dewinter with that sign.

521 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:21:21pm

re: #517 Killgore Trout

DHS!


Patriot act!

522 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:21:34pm

re: #515 Sunlight

With sour krauts on top.

Why, I Otto....

523 Ming  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:22:43pm

This is a shame. I remember when I used to enjoy and admire the Atlas Shrugs blog. Obviously things have deteriorated over there. Ayn Rand would have been appalled to have the name of her epic novel associated with white supremacists.

524 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:23:29pm

re: #483 calcajun

You sure she just wasn't trying to make julienne fries with the props on the Zeroes?/////

Don't think so! The human reaction to any given stressful situation is always, to me, fascinating. It seems that the instant response to the attacking planes was irrational outrage. It was not just my Mom, all the women at enlisted base housing found themselves pissed to the max, no weapons, so they were throwing rocks and whatever until a neighbor woman brought out the sack of potatoes! My mom said they were so low she looked square into the eyes of one of the pilots. When she told me story she was still pissed!

525 Gus  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:23:31pm

re: #520 Sharmuta

Additionally- those posters were later used by other groups. Why- here's filip dewinter with that sign.

Vlaams Belang -- not unlike Pro Köln.

The unifying message is to stir up fear of Islam for gaining power within the EU.

526 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:23:38pm

"We took this challenge before our Lord and our conscience, and it must be done, because this man, Hitler, he is the ultimate evil."

- Claus Von Stauffenberg

"Beyond this day, no thinking person could fail to see what would happen."

- Oskar Schindler

527 Claire  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:23:39pm

Why are these losers so fixated on whether or not the Germans gassed the Jews? They still fucking rounded them up like animals, and they still fucking died in their camps by the millions. Gassed, or shot, or starvation, or disease, they still fucking killed them with malice aforethought all the same. Why do I have to share the planet with these cretins?

528 Athos  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:23:47pm

re: #434 Wildcat

Karma: 8
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What is it about these threads that bring out the cockroaches moles / sockpuppets?

529 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:23:51pm
530 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:24:21pm

re: #499 yochanan
Maybe, but here, in the successor state of the murderers, it's really disgusting.

No suicide-bombing can be barbaric enough to not have Germans making excuses for it and blaming Israel.
The worst phrase is: Didn't the Jews learned from their past (like we good Germans did)? As if Auschwitz was a reeducation-camp.

531 ArmyWife  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:24:35pm

Late to the thread myself, how has this been spun by Ms. Geller to prove us all wrong? More importantly, did the authenticity of Charles' birth certificate come into play as of yet?

Pulled in a contract (well, TA with recommendation to ratify) in the 11th hour. Not bad (if I must say so myself) for being there a whopping 2 weeks and offering a 1% increase when they started with a 5%.

532 Athos  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:24:51pm

re: #509 Killgore Trout

I'm sure Spencer's on the phone with his lawyer.

Maybe he should consider checking with his conscious first.

533 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:25:16pm

re: #523 Ming

This is a shame. I remember when I used to enjoy and admire the Atlas Shrugs blog. Obviously things have deteriorated over there. Ayn Rand would have been appalled to have the name of her epic novel associated with white supremacists.

While trolling (yes .. its a word outside of the TROLL context) for a special picture of the lizard lounge .. (what can I say .. i'm a lizard fan) I came across the Sheikyermami website and ...

Lets just say that ranting about Charles and LGF can only drag you so low. He has gone a lot lower than that.

534 Sunlight  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:25:39pm

re: #339 Charles

I guarantee they're going to start screaming "guilt by association" over this post again, and try to deny that "Pro Koln" has any connections at all to neo-Nazis.

They need to stop saying that "guilt by association" rationalization. It is a legal concept, and sure enough, they can't be legally hassled for hanging around these people. But this is a question of integrity, not legality, and in that case, the appropriate phrase is, "You are known by the company you keep." Old fashioned concept these days, but it definitely applies here.

535 astronmr20  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:26:03pm

re: #531 ArmyWife

Are you in VA now?

536 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:26:12pm

re: #528 Athos
That question is one of the mysteries of LGF. Registered for over 3 years, 12 comments a year. WTF? I don't get it, never have, never will...Yaaay.

537 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:26:22pm

re: #532 Athos

Maybe he should consider checking with his conscious first.

He did but it wouldn't return his calls.

538 yochanan  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:26:26pm

re: #514 Buster Bunny

i remember going to see that movie well i liked half of it. you might guess which half.

my father never said anything about his time in the navy on the Enterprise, ( a few years ago I was at the navy mus. in bremerton washington were i learned a lot about the Enterprise.) after the war due to my mother's influence he transfered to the army were he spent 20 years, he would talk about that all the time. the only time i ever heard him talk about the war was when i over heard him talking to my cousin who was being shipped off to NAM. when they saw me they both started talking about the chicago bears.

539 ArmyWife  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:26:29pm

re: #535 astronmr20

yes, I am. I really like this area. Driving back to Baltimore tomorrow, though. For the weekend.

540 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:26:42pm

re: #522 solomonpanting

Why, I Otto....


I'd jump back into this but won't for fear I'd get my hand stuck in an edelweis.

541 brookly red  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:27:29pm

re: #536 pingjockey

That question is one of the mysteries of LGF. Registered for over 3 years, 12 comments a year. WTF? I don't get it, never have, never will...Yaaay.

/once a month... is the moon full?

542 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:27:35pm

re: #514 Buster Bunny

You could call it something like .. um .. PEARL HARBOUR ..

yes .. what a great title for a blockbuster movie like that ...

/sarc

What a crappy movie that was..

543 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:28:04pm

re: #525 Gus 802

Vlaams Belang -- not unlike Pro Köln.

The unifying message is to stir up fear of Islam for gaining power within the EU.

And these are the lovely folks Geert Wilders is considering in casting his lot.

544 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:28:35pm

re: #541 brookly red
Hmmm...well, not at this latest post it isn't.

545 astronmr20  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:28:41pm

re: #539 ArmyWife

Hope you are enjoying the weather.

You moved to an area in VA (if you are near fort Lee) that is very reasonable price-wise. Still basically part of the Richmond area, still close to DC.

I grew up under my Dad's teacher's salary in VA and we all had a good life.

546 Sunlight  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:28:58pm

re: #530 gegenkritik

Maybe, but here, in the successor state of the murderers, it's really disgusting.

No suicide-bombing can be barbaric enough to not have Germans making excuses for it and blaming Israel.
The worst phrase is: Didn't the Jews learned from their past (like we good Germans did)? As if Auschwitz was a reeducation-camp.

Where is your hometown in Germany? I lived in Wiesbaden and Bitburg. Is it the same all over? Has it gotten worse since reunification (I lived there before that)?

547 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:29:00pm

re: #527 Claire

Why are these losers so fixated on whether or not the Germans gassed the Jews? They still fucking rounded them up like animals, and they still fucking died in their camps by the millions. Gassed, or shot, or starvation, or disease, they still fucking killed them with malice aforethought all the same. Why do I have to share the planet with these cretins?

There is an example in the rabbinical texts given of the evils of Esau. He would be trying to make himself sound important by worry about the 'evenness' of the levels of tithe (charity) instead of worrying about the giving of the tithe.

Evil tends to dwell on the little bits that they feel can allow an avenue for their views to be implemented and the norms to be discarded.

548 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:29:21pm

re: #540 joecitizen

I'd jump back into this but won't for fear I'd get my hand stuck in an edelweis.

I've seen some Bad Ems in my time, but that was pretty bad

549 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:29:43pm

re: #542 The Shadow Do
Alec Baldwin as Jimmy Dolittle ain't cutting it!

550 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:29:49pm

re: #542 The Shadow Do

What a crappy movie that was..

2+ hours of my life that are never coming back.

551 solomonpanting  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:29:52pm

re: #540 joecitizen

I'd jump back into this but won't for fear I'd get my hand stuck in an edelweis.


If that happens, just petal backwards.

552 astronmr20  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:30:18pm

re: #549 pingjockey

Remember, it's Arec Bawdwin.

553 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:30:46pm

re: #549 pingjockey

Alec Baldwin as Jimmy Dolittle ain't cutting it!

Alec Baldwin as ELIZA Dolittle .. now that would be a performance !

554 Gus  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:30:54pm

re: #543 Sharmuta

And these are the lovely folks Geert Wilders is considering in casting his lot.

Indeed. They are taking advantage of the crisis. Some have actually acquired political positions as Wilders. The American bloggers in question are the US version of their propaganda department.

555 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:31:15pm

re: #548 calcajun

I've seen some Bad Ems in my time, but that was pretty bad

danke.

556 Aye Pod  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:31:40pm

re: #523 Ming

This is a shame. I remember when I used to enjoy and admire the Atlas Shrugs blog. Obviously things have deteriorated over there. Ayn Rand would have been appalled to have the name of her epic novel associated with white supremacists.

Not to mention creationists.

557 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:31:48pm

re: #551 solomonpanting

Sound advice coming from your tulips....

558 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:32:03pm

re: #552 astronmr20
Whatever you want, the guy is an ass. Plus he didn't keep his promise to move out of the country when GW got re-elected. I really hoped him and the rest of those Hollyweird types were going to cut us a break and leave!

559 ArmyWife  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:32:06pm

re: #545 astronmr20

It was quite pretty today during the few seconds I got to be outside today. I am looking in the Chesterfield/Midlothian area for houses. Less than Baltimore, no doubt!

560 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:32:31pm

Geert Wilders:

Bad ideas.
Great hair.

561 jelo  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:32:33pm

Pamela needs to understand that the "enemy of her enemy" is not her friend!

562 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:32:44pm

re: #553 Buster Bunny
Heh. George Clooney can play Rex Harrisons' role.

563 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:32:58pm

re: #560 Irish Rose

Better to look good than sound good?

564 joecitizen  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:33:11pm

re: #557 Fenway_Nation

Sound advice coming from your tulips....


truly he rose to the occasion.

565 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:34:43pm

re: #516 calcajun

Get a tape recorder. Put it in front of them. Turn it on. Get them to talk--now. The WWII Museum in NOLA is compiling oral histories from all veterans willing to talk. You folks--and their memories- are an invaluable resource. Please, do something to preserve their testimonies.

Both gone Calcajun. I have the evidence in the form of long held newspaper stories, my dad's military history, decoration citations, etc. But sadly they are both gone and will speak nevermore. I think there are so many stories like this that will never, ever be told. Too sad.

I even have some unique dirt on MacArthur's withdrawal from the Philippines, but without corroboration it will never be known. Sad really;

566 Van Helsing  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:35:11pm

Geez, you guys..
(can I say guys)?)
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Youtube Video
>Springtime fot Hitler
567 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:36:21pm

For What It Is Worth -

Just an insight. Pamela used to be a fairly regular caller to RUSH about 3-4 years ago. Pamela then disappeared. Why? Pray Tell?

-S-

568 Aye Pod  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:37:39pm

re: #527 Claire

Why are these losers so fixated on whether or not the Germans gassed the Jews? They still fucking rounded them up like animals, and they still fucking died in their camps by the millions. Gassed, or shot, or starvation, or disease, they still fucking killed them with malice aforethought all the same. Why do I have to share the planet with these cretins?

Youtube Video
569 Gus  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:38:13pm

Church blessings and promises for more high-caliber anti-Islamisierungskongreß
Anti-Islam Congress 2009 - Announcements
Thursday 23 April 2009
Wilders-confidante Pamela Geller at press conference on anti-Islamisierungskongreß in Cologne!

The Wilders-confidante and journalist Pamela Geller of New York and the famous islam critical journalists and Internet bloggers Paul Belien from Flanders and Lars Hedegaard in Denmark have their coming to the 2009 Anti-Islamisierungskongreß promised. In addition, a religious blessing for the main rally on Saturday by a Protestant pastor in four different languages. A good two weeks before the start of the anti-Islamisierungskongresses 2009 in Cologne and the surrounding area is the range of participating organizations and individuals so that an ever-widening. In addition to the keynote speakers from the Vlaams Belang, the FPÖ, the pro-motion, the German Bundestag deputies Henry Nitzsche, French, Italian and Czech politicians as well as delegations from Spain, Norway and Switzerland, there are now three more firm commitments of prominent individuals from America, Denmark and Flanders.

Above all, the well-known New York journalist and critics of Islam, Pamela Geller, as a close confidante of the Dutch right-wing populist Geert Wilders in America functions. Already last year there were many American newspapers and television stations, including CNN, the anti-Islamisierungskongreß attention and there was a lively political debate in the scandalous overseas operations in Cologne. Now meets with Pamela Geller first time an active participant in the U.S. in Cologne where she on the reasons for their support of the pro-motion at the international press conference on Friday is a position.

By Paul Belien and Lars Hedegaard are also two highly dedicated and globally networked activists for democracy and freedom and against the dangers of Islamization in the deliberations in Cologne participate. With its well-known Internet blogs to reach tens of thousands of daily readers in Europe, where currently heavily on the new Cologne Congress debated.

"Especially, we are also pleased about the commitment of a Protestant pastor, at the beginning of the main public rally on Saturday is a Christian reflection, and then a blessing for all congress participants in German. English, French and Italian to donate, "said the pro-NRW-General Markus Wiener on the new developments.

"The pro-motion of 8 until 10 May 2009 a signal that beyond Germany's borders will be perceived. We will peacefully and with ecclesiastical blessing our legitimate exercise democratic rights. In addition, we clearly demonstrate that patriotism and criticism of Islam, nothing to do with racism or even anti-Semitism have to do. This is also our impressive speakers and participants list! "

Other prominent promises of parties and individuals on anti-Islamisierungskongreß be in the next few days expected!
Last Updated (Thursday, April 23, 2009)

570 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:41:22pm

re: #565 The Shadow Do

Pity. Real pity.

But, would like to hear the dirt on Mac. He screwed up the situation there by trying to defend the beaches, then switching back to the original plan to fall back to Bataan. Left a lot of supplies all across Luzon by doing that.

571 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:41:53pm

re: #569 Gus 802
They really need to get someone fluent in English to translate that shit. It sounds like one of those letters you get from BFE promising millions of bucks!

572 Gus  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:42:49pm

re: #571 pingjockey

They really need to get someone fluent in English to translate that shit. It sounds like one of those letters you get from BFE promising millions of bucks!

Yeah, that using the Google translation. Gets a little funky.

573 Gus  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:43:51pm

Another speaker at this event:

Henry Nitzsche

574 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:44:41pm

re: #572 Gus 802
Now matter how you translate it, it's still shit!

575 NY Nana  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:44:49pm

re: #297 Silvergirl

You mean this one? Pamela and Gloria, twins seperated at birth.

Youtube Video
576 gegenkritik  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:49:24pm

re: #546 Sunlight

Where is your hometown in Germany? I lived in Wiesbaden and Bitburg. Is it the same all over? Has it gotten worse since reunification (I lived there before that)?


I live in former Eastern Germany, where agitation against the West has been part of the government ideology. I think before reunification (I was still a child back then), anti-americanism and open anti-zionism was not so present in West-Germany, because they needed the USA and NATO to protect them from UdSSR.
Now, as Germany with its wealthy economy is becoming more and more the important player in the EU, they distance more and more from the USA. Chancellor Schröder's "No war!" 2003 was definitely meant as an affront to America. It's a little bit better with Merkel now (and because of Obama, who is cheered as the "Anti-Bush"), but the atmosphere among the people is still not friendly towards the USA (though, not as hostile as it was in 2003. I had really fun with my fellow students at the university when wearing a US-Flag-patch and spreading stickers supporting President Bush before the elections 2004).
Recently, it wasn't very popular to show support for Israel's Operation Cast Lead, though, some people gathered at small demonstrations (here you can see pics of one in Berlin, where I also participated), that often emerged in brawls with counter-protestors (while trying to counter-protest the huge pro-Palestinan-demonstrations was hazardous).

577 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:52:04pm

re: #570 calcajun

Pity. Real pity.

But, would like to hear the dirt on Mac. He screwed up the situation there by trying to defend the beaches, then switching back to the original plan to fall back to Bataan. Left a lot of supplies all across Luzon by doing that.

Well here it is: My dad was flying in one of the very few remaining B-17's when the Philippines fell. Everyone knows that MacArthur was evacuated with his family by submarine. What is not known is that Plan A was to fly out. When they arrived at the airfield MacArthur refused to board my dad's plane. He declared it unfit to fly. Think about that. This plane was one of a very few survivors and they were damn proud to still be taking the fight to the enemy. Did I tell you my dad was not only a waist gunner but also flight mechanic (engineer)? He kept this plane in the fight day after day, mission after mission.

Unfit to fly? Unsafe? Too dangerous for he and his family, but A-OK for the dopes fighting in her? MacArthur's name has no cache in my family.

578 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:53:40pm

re: #472 Killgore Trout

The photo of Clara Petacci may have sobered her up, if she does know her history.

579 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 6:57:25pm

re: #577 The Shadow Do

Oh, I can believe it. He decides to ride out on an Elco PT boat that has gone so many hours past its scheduled overhaul that it's top speed is barely 30kts. Don't care much for him either.

580 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:00:39pm

re: #577 The Shadow Do

Well here it is: My dad was flying in one of the very few remaining B-17's when the Philippines fell. Everyone knows that MacArthur was evacuated with his family by submarine. What is not known is that Plan A was to fly out. When they arrived at the airfield MacArthur refused to board my dad's plane. He declared it unfit to fly. Think about that. This plane was one of a very few survivors and they were damn proud to still be taking the fight to the enemy. Did I tell you my dad was not only a waist gunner but also flight mechanic (engineer)? He kept this plane in the fight day after day, mission after mission.

Unfit to fly? Unsafe? Too dangerous for he and his family, but A-OK for the dopes fighting in her? MacArthur's name has no cache in my family.

IIRC, MacArthur had a reputation as an arrogant ass....your story just confirms that.

581 Gus  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:00:45pm

Groups mentioned in the Pro-Kahn article:

Vlaams Belang

der FPÖ

der pro-Bewegung

Henry Nitzsche

582 Gus  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:01:42pm

re: #581 Gus 802

Groups mentioned in the Pro-Kahn article:

Vlaams Belang

der FPÖ

der pro-Bewegung

Henry Nitzsche

Correction: “Pro Köln”

583 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:03:03pm

re: #576 gegenkritik

gegenkritik -

Look at it this way. Europe, by majority opinion, in the 1930's rejected and killed large portions of its Jewish Population, Along with Romany (Gypsies) and "Folks Who Used to be Called Homosexuals." Pre- 1939, Europe was the Center of the World. After 1945 - Not So Much. It was, to quote Herman Woulk, "The Last Pallaio." To add insult to injury, all 'y'all have been forced to live with your 11th Century Enemies as neighbors. Some Lousy Payback, don't you think?

-S-

584 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:03:12pm

re: #554 Gus 802

Indeed. They are taking advantage of the crisis. Some have actually acquired political positions as Wilders. The American bloggers in question are the US version of their propaganda department.

The American bloggers think hooking up with european "counter-jihadis" makes them more credible American counter-jihadis, but in reality their friends in europe are nazis, and back home they're just useful idiots trying to put the genie back in the bottle, oblivious to the fact it's just too late.

585 The Shadow Do  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:10:19pm

re: #580 talon_262

IIRC, MacArthur had a reputation as an arrogant ass....your story just confirms that.

I've often thought that one could find the documentation for this and this could even be decent book material. I just don't have the time nor the research skill. Some years ago I casually tried to find other members of my dad's crew but never succeeded. No doubt they are all gone. I am glad Truman canned his ass.

586 NY Nana  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:13:24pm

re: #481 Sharmuta

{Sharm}

587 Gus  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:14:11pm

re: #584 Sharmuta

The American bloggers think hooking up with european "counter-jihadis" makes them more credible American counter-jihadis, but in reality their friends in europe are nazis, and back home they're just useful idiots trying to put the genie back in the bottle, oblivious to the fact it's just too late.

The result of this approval from these American bloggers is that they are effectively assisting in the "mainstreaming" of the European Nationalist parties on this side of the Atlantic. One could say they are also a conduit between their own readership and the neo-Nazi factions within the United States. Hence admiration they garner at the VNN and Stormfront.

Needless to say the more portly American blogger in question has posted a feeble argument at his website 34 minutes ago.

588 NY Nana  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:22:24pm

re: #482 Silvergirl

And I left you a message! ;)

589 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:34:37pm

re: #587 Gus 802

Gus 802 -

If a "Euro-Nationalist" Party is the 1970's-90's British Tories, I have no problem. As to some of the others - not so much - AND - I understand some of their popularity as most "Mainstream" Parties are unwilling, if not unable, to assert mainstream/modernist Western Ideas against their "Adopted" Islamic Communities.
Best story I have heard lately regarding this is from the UK. Their Gay Lobby got a "boy meets boy" book approved as part of the general curriculum. Objections were raised, BY MUSLIMS, needless to say, THE MUSLIMS WON! as they are not "Quite White" and if one crosses them, one entertains physical harm.
That is all.

-S-

590 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:34:59pm

re: #587 Gus 802

That defense is just laughable.

591 Sleepyone  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:46:05pm

re: #584 Sharmuta

The American bloggers think hooking up with european "counter-jihadis" makes them more credible American counter-jihadis, but in reality their friends in europe are nazis, and back home they're just useful idiots trying to put the genie back in the bottle, oblivious to the fact it's just too late.

Damn. You just put into words what I've been thinking about this whole situation. Very well said.

592 Areopagitica  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 7:52:07pm

Wow, its really sad to see what used to be a real front against radical Islam/jihadism disintegrate before our eyes. Charles, you and Robert Spencer have been at the forefront of trying to expose these radicals and terrorists for what they really are: insane nut-jobs who have figured out how to use the MSM, the democratic party and our democratic system and civil liberties to advance a totalitarian, draconian system of religious laws upon the world while crying that they are the victims.

It saddens me to have seen this rift, but Charles I have to give you a heck of a lot of credit for really probing VB and the other Euro-fascist groups as the frauds and charlatans that they are. Your efforts to not toe the line and ask legitimate probing questions, political party or issue be damned, is a credit to you and this blog and is what makes coming here all the more informative.

The effort to fight hatred and intolerance oozing from the Muslim world is only being undermined by those who seek the support of other intolerant hate groups. Aligning with these hate groups only plays into the hands of the Islamists, (who were allied with Nazis some 65 years ago), and gives them ammunition to say that those of us who oppose their evil ways are "islamophobes" and "racists" or as the Iranian delegates from Durban II called Elie Wiesel "zionazi." I guess my question to Charles and fellow Euro Lizards is do the VB and their ilk in other countries carry a huge following or are they very marginalized? Are they taken even remotely seriously? Are their other groups and political parties who are wholly legitimate who see the evils of efforts to islamicize Europe under sharia law?

Charles, keep up the good fight against VB, AS and Pamela who is being led down the dark path, Pat Buchanan and his WW II wasn't Hitler's fault crap, creationism, intelligent design and those who seek to impose their extremist ways upon us all.

OT: Apparently David Gregory is interviewing King Hussein II of Jordan on MTP on Sunday. If Gregory has his blog up and running asking viewers to come up with questions, I hope all you lizards flood his in-box requesting that he ask the King why do we continue to hear about the horrid Israeli occupation when from 1948 to 1967 Egypt and Jordan occupied the west bank and Gaza? What makes the Israelis any more good or bad than the Egyptians or Jordanians? Is it the fact they are Jews and not Muslims? Bingo! And also why to schools in Jordan continue to put out student materials which say that Jews and Christians are apes and pigs? Some reform.

593 pittrader1988  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 8:02:26pm

re: #592 Areopagitica

You know what I have discovered since the new millennium started. People can rationalize anything. Maybe it has something to do with Clinton/Lewinsky.
But the Holocaust, or anything that happens that is horrible can be rationalized.

I have even heard Edwards backers say he was a target of a sting, and who could blame him for cheating on his sick wife-a man has needs!

Go get them Charles. I hate Nazi's. Radical Muslims remind me of Nazi's. Far Right Wing Conservative Christian wing nuts remind me of Mussolini.

My left wing Jewish friends do not appreciate what you are doing. They see Israel as no different from the Palestinians, and think both sides are bad. Keep it up anyway. When Iran tries to bomb Israel, or if the Taliban get control of Pakistan and a nuclear bomb explodes somewhere-maybe they will get the message.

594 Cato the Elder  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 8:06:45pm

Nice Hitler Youth haircut on that guy.

Oh, and the big banner behind him? "Europa erwache!" - Europe, Awake! - is the EU version of "Deutschland erwache!", one of the most famous of the paleo-Nazi slogans. It was used, among other things, to warn against the Jewish worm in the German apple.

They were wrong then, but they're right now, eh, Pamela? Now that the target is another minority that prays in a funny language and wears odd clothes.

Another great slogan of the bad old days was "Deutsche! Wehrt Euch! Kauft nicht bei Juden!" (Germans! Defend yourselves! Don't buy from Jews!) Will Pamela be supporting a similar campaign against halal shops and rug dealers?

She's a disgrace to Judaism.

595 Mich-again  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 8:15:44pm

It looks like Pam is on a PR tour to convert Jew haters to Muslim haters. Spence just wants to hang out with Fjordy.

596 Silvergirl  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 8:15:56pm

re: #513 Fenway_Nation

Jeez....put some wire-rimmed glasses on Axel Reitz and he could be the spitting image of Dietr from Sprockets.

Put a few more years on him and he can be one of the Nazi melt faces on Indiana Jones.

597 Mich-again  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 8:16:34pm

re: #596 Silvergirl

Now. It is time to dance..

598 Areopagitica  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 8:22:13pm

The whole tight fitting black leather trench-coat look is so out!

599 Timbre  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 8:40:44pm

"Atlas Sieg Heiled" Geller, Pamela. 14 Words Press; 2009.

600 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 8:44:56pm

Interview with filip dewinter:

DEWINTER: There's a big difference. We play at home. On our own field.

[Interviewer]- Whoever is born as a Moroccan Belgian also plays at home.

DEWINTER: That foreigner doesn't play at home. That foreigner is a guest here, should act like a guest. There are many guests who stay longer, but they are still guests. They must understand..

[Interviewer]- Whoever is born here is not a guest. That is their land just as well as it's yours

DEWINTER: I always think that a cat born in a fish shop is not a fish just because of that - to express it plastically. It takes maybe a few generation before people are completely assimilated. But that is the intention in the end: Be a Fleming among Flemish. But than we should also make an effort on our side to make it clear to them . And we don't do that

Charming.

601 Ilan Toren  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 9:37:10pm

There are people you can work with while not agreeing with 100%, but it is a problematic slippery slope if you don't know what your values are. We have this argument in Israel in regards to Evangelical Christians ( and perhaps the US Republicans have a similar problem ) . Then there are people who are just crazy and use issues to 'gain legitimacy' and I'd put ANSWER and the nativist far right in Europe in that category.

602 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 10:17:48pm

White supremacist Pat Buchanan supporter Robert Stacy McCain is now attacking over this post...

603 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 10:20:43pm

re: #598 Areopagitica

The whole tight fitting black leather trench-coat look is so out!

At least among men. ;)

604 calcajun  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 10:21:55pm

re: #602 Charles

On what basis and where? Interesting to see how Geller's actions are defensible.

605 Cato the Elder  Thu, Apr 23, 2009 10:27:10pm

re: #339 Charles

I guarantee they're going to start screaming "guilt by association" over this post again, and try to deny that "Pro Koln" has any connections at all to neo-Nazis.

If you associate with Nazis, you are guilty of associating with Nazis. That's what "guilt by association" means, and it's perfectly legitimate.

606 edinbud  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 1:54:47am

It's obvious none of you have any idea what it's really like in Europe now.

607 Abu Lahab  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 2:59:31am

re: #606 edinbud

It's obvious none of you have any idea what it's really like in Europe now.

Oh NO, the same old "you know nothing about Europe" used to justify having an ally with Eurofascists?! No actually, we know what is has always been in Europe: Do a huge mistake and get into a problem (letting in thousands of extremists), then do graver mistakes to solve the first one.
Also we know about Europe that they stood and watched as 6 million Jews and many others disappeared. Actually it's what happened in Europe that it making us feel worried about such allies.
Why don't you explain to us what is it like in Europe?

608 Abu Lahab  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 3:04:20am

Here comes the inevitable apologists at the end of each such thread.
Classic!

609 halldor  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 3:51:26am

re: #592 Areopagitica

I guess my question to Charles and fellow Euro Lizards is do the VB and their ilk in other countries carry a huge following or are they very marginalized? Are they taken even remotely seriously?

In the UK, the BNP is likely to pick up votes from Labour/Liberal/Conservative in the June 4 elections to the European Parliament. There is a lot of disillusion with the main UK political parties, caused partly by the economic slump but also by widespread discontent with the Labour government's immigration policies. While at present it would not be correct to say that the BNP carries a large following, the situation may be different after the June 4 elections. The possibility of the BNP gaining votes in the North West of England, where Muslim immigration is a major social issue, is worrying the UK government and also some church leaders. See, for example

[Link: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk...]

610 gegenkritik  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 5:47:11am

Robert Spencer is now officially announced for 9th May by pro Köln.

611 MPH  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 5:58:00am

re: #602 Charles

White supremacist Pat Buchanan supporter Robert Stacy McCain is now attacking over this post...


From that post:

Pamela a "common sense-thinking conservative who's willing to speak out for what she believes in."

'nuff said...

612 gegenkritik  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 6:14:03am

re: #594 Cato the Elder
Yes, and this banner belongs to the "Kampfbund Deutscher Sozialisten", a really obscure german Nazi-sect (see my post about Reitz).

re: #592 Areopagitica
In other European countries, fascist and rightwing-extremist-parties like BNP, VB, FPÖ or FN have occasionally considerable success, unlike real Neo-Nazis groups, who are marginalized (though, there are intersections between those milieus). In Germany, it's a different situation: rightwing-extremists like pro-Köln are marginalized (according to their own page, they don't have more than 500 members, I guess even that number is far too high), compared to real Nazi-parties like NPD, which has factions in two German regional parliaments and several representatives in local parliaments, around 7,000 members and support by some thousands of independent Nazi-groups.

613 Orangutan  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 6:24:28am

re: #21 opnion

World War II should have settled the issue , defeating & totally discrediting Nazis & Fascists, but apparently some people didn't get the memo. Very sick.


That crude bunch has always preyed on dissatisfaction ... that's how they rose in the '30s ... Italy and Germany had hard times, and these guys showed up building roads, and so on (at first) .... they try to find where a lot of hate is fomenting and they whip it up while they try to turn the organization into something more to their use.

614 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 6:28:54am

What's wrong with being pro-colonge? Some of those Europeans are quite pungent!
/off to the open thread

615 Dime IV  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 7:21:19am

re: #30 Kosh's Shadow

These neo-Nazi shitheads remind me of the Muslims who think that since they're losing, they need to stricter in their observance and harsher on infidels, even though that is the cause of their problems.

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim." -- George Santayana, Life of Reason (1905) vol. 1, Introduction

Joel

616 Zimriel  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 8:13:19am

re: #610 gegenkritik

Robert Spencer is now officially announced for 9th May by pro Köln.

Into the Rhineland he goes...

617 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 8:40:51am

Judging by the relative heights in those pictures, I'd say that Reitz suffers, among other things, from short-guy syndrome.

618 Caboose  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 1:59:16pm

All of Frau Geller's talent only fills two cups... [snark]

619 lostlakehiker  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 12:41:34pm
“I am an ass to believe that Jews were gassed in Germany” (Ich Esel glaube, daß in Deutschland Juden vergast worden sind).


There they go again. Snicker, snicker. Auschwitz is in Poland. Always the literally God-damned crossed fingers lie.


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