Ha!

Is it Fascist Friday?

Correction: Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

David Duke- friend of vlaams belang.

Ah, karma.

Ha-ha!
/Nelson Muntz

For some strange reason I do not feel sorry for him.

Rude Awakening!

They'll probably just throw him out of the country, unfortunately, and he'll come back here.

Outstanding. Could not happen to a nicer person. Do they have the gallows in the Czech Republic?

re: #2 Sharmuta

Is it Fascist Friday?

You could just say Freaky Friday-same thing...

LOL. Shabbat Shalom Mr. Duke.

Isn't Moravia somewhat overlapping or partly made up of the old Sudetenland region, which was extremely enthusiastic for the original Nazis?

If david duke goes to jail, he'd miss the pro Köln conference. Bummer.

Always with the disappointment.

I misread it as 'punched'.

I need new reading glasses, I guess.

Unfortunately, they will probably not prosecute or jail him. More than likely they'll just deport him. We don't want him back.

re: #14 Sharmuta

If david duke goes to jail, he'd miss the pro Köln conference. Bummer.

Oh there will be a conference, but if he is in jail it will be about who has first dibs on his colon, not koln.

re: #14 Sharmuta

If david duke goes to jail, he'd miss the pro Köln conference. Bummer.

He'd better learn Czech fast, so he can answer properly when his cellmate propositions him.

Was he trying to annex the Sudetenland?

on suspicion of promotion of movements seeking suppression of human rights,

Once again, I get mixed feelings about this stuff.

On the one hand, David Duke has a bad day, which is a good thing.

On the other hand, it's more of these slippery European laws that seem to undermine free speech. (Which, IMHO, really only help to fuel extremists, by giving them the veneer of being edgy "outlaws".)

It couldn't have happened to a more deserving POS.

As another lizard said- too bad the world's smallest violin is in the shop.

For those looking for a great vacation, I recommend the Czech Republic.
It's gorgeous. Very pro-American, pro-Israel and just really nice people.

re: #10 Erik The Red

Outstanding. Could not happen to a nicer person. Do they have the gallows in the Czech Republic?

I believe the traditional punishment is defenestration.

/

I'm sorry, but I still have a problem with having this be a crime. What happens if, as some moonbats want, they make global warming denial a crime? Duke is a despicable human being and should be exposed as such. Holocaust denial should be exposed as fraud. But I have a problem with making it a criminal offense. If this is, what is next?

re: #23 MJ

For those looking for a great vacation, I recommend the Czech Republic.
It's gorgeous. Very pro-American, pro-Israel and just really nice people.

And many of the women are not exactly painful to look at.

It's an oldie, but it's a goodie, and it applies to this situation swimmingly.

For you, David.

re: #22 Fenway_Nation

As another lizard said- too bad the world's smallest violin is in the shop.

Heehee.

^{it was me}

re: #16 Barking Pumpkin

Unfortunately, they will probably not prosecute or jail him. More than likely they'll just deport him. We don't want him back.

Can the US revoke his passport/citizenship. Maybe Tom Hanks can play him in a new movie. KKK head spends 10 years in a Czech/French airport.

re: #26 Occasional Reader

And many of the women are not exactly painful to look at.

That's true too!

As much as I loath David Duke, I have mixed feelings about this. I'm uncomfortable with laws that regulate what people say, write, or think, no matter how reprehensible. The latter being, for example, hate crimes, where the police divine the intent of the perp and raise the level of seriousness of something that would normally be a simple crime anyway. These laws can cut both ways, as members of the Bush administration may be about to find out.

re: #25 Shr_Nfr

I imagine the threshold is a little different for countries that have been under Nazi occupation.

/Altho this begs the question of why there are Czech neo-Nazis...

He's having a bad week.

First there is an anti Semitic bash at Durban II and they forgot to invite him to the festivities and now this.

Maybe Spencer and Geller can bail him out?

Duke, a U.S. citizen, is suspected of denying or approving of the Nazi genocide and other Nazi crimes. This crime is punishable by up to three years in prison in the Czech Republic.

Is it truly a crime to be so f*ing stupid? I dislike (regurgitate upon speaking his name) this homo-erectus as much as the next person but is it really a crime to say that you doubt the genocide? A nice long tour of Auschwitz and some of the old footage from the National Archives would be better than having him serve three years in a Czech political prison with others of the same view.

We really need to start using that old film in the schools again. Not pleasant to watch but very enlightening.

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

Altho this begs the question

Slowly I turned...

Was he on his way to Koln?

re: #23 MJ

For those looking for a great vacation, I recommend the Czech Republic.
It's gorgeous. Very pro-American, pro-Israel and just really nice people.

Yes, as can be seen here:
Czech PM tells Peres he'll work to strengthen Israel-EU ties

Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolánek met with President Shimon Peres in Jerusalem on Friday, and reiterated his country's commitment to strengthen ties between Israel and the European Union.

"We will work so that the voices in Europe calling to slow down or freeze the promotion of relations to Israel won't get what they're after," Topolanek told Peres.

The Czech Republic currently holds the rotating EU presidency.

re: #23 MJ

For those looking for a great vacation, I recommend the Czech Republic.
It's gorgeous. Very pro-American, pro-Israel and just really nice people.

It's also a fairly cheap place to stay ( no Euros ) and the beer is some of the best in the world.

Will Pam start a legal fund?

re: #28 Sharmuta

I thought it was Mandy, but I wasn't 100% sure...

re: #23 MJ

For those looking for a great vacation, I recommend the Czech Republic.
It's gorgeous. Very pro-American, pro-Israel and just really nice people.

And the last time I was there, beer in pubs sold for the equivalent of 65 cents a half liter.

re: #33 Opinionated

He's having a bad week.

First there is an anti Semitic bash at Durban II and they forgot to invite him to the festivities and now this.

I hear the cleaners also ironed a crease in his sheet and had problems getting the BBQ stain out from the last rally.

From the "maybe it's good you're not the President" file:

John McCain Repeats Idiotic Claim That 9/11 Highjackers Came From Canada

Gaffetastic!

re: #23 MJ

For those looking for a great vacation, I recommend the Czech Republic.
It's gorgeous. Very pro-American, pro-Israel and just really nice people.

So we can assume Obama won't be going there anytime soon?
/

re: #40 Ben Hur

Will Pam start a legal fund?

Maybe dance at a titty bar to raise funds.

re: #36 Occasional Reader

DO IT DO IT!

re: #41 Fenway_Nation

I thought it was Mandy, but I wasn't 100% sure...

No- I said it last week. Honest. Then someone made a joke about Killgore fixing it.

re: #25 Shr_Nfr

I'm sorry, but I still have a problem with having this be a crime. What happens if, as some moonbats want, they make global warming denial a crime? Duke is a despicable human being and should be exposed as such. Holocaust denial should be exposed as fraud. But I have a problem with making it a criminal offense. If this is, what is next?

I'm with you on this.. laught now .. Duke doesn't get any respect form me.. but tomorrow.. will playing video games be a crime if they involve fire arms?

Prague - The Czech police arrested David Duke, former leader of the Ku Klux Klan racist movement, in Prague today on suspicion of promotion of movements seeking suppression of human rights, Prague police spokesman told CTK.

Supressing his human rights because he might supress human rights?

/Duke supporters.

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

Still, there is the basic ethics of free speech. Incitement to violence against anybody is off limits. Have you noticed where Britain is going these days with their "speech" stuff?

I have mixed feelings on this. While I have no sympathy for Duke, recognize that he was arrested for exercising what would be his first amendment rights had he been in the US.

re: #25 Shr_Nfr

I'm sorry, but I still have a problem with having this be a crime. What happens if, as some moonbats want, they make global warming denial a crime? Duke is a despicable human being and should be exposed as such. Holocaust denial should be exposed as fraud. But I have a problem with making it a criminal offense. If this is, what is next?

I suspect that Lizard LudwigVanQuixote will do his "I told you so, I'm a PhD" dance.

re: #20 Occasional Reader

Once again, I get mixed feelings about this stuff.

On the one hand, David Duke has a bad day, which is a good thing.

On the other hand, it's more of these slippery European laws that seem to undermine free speech. (Which, IMHO, really only help to fuel extremists, by giving them the veneer of being edgy "outlaws".)

Yeah. Plus, promoting movements seeking suppression of human rights is really vague and subjective, and could concievably be used to target just about anyone who expresses an opinion on something.
At least, "Don't say x" is clear and unambiguous. "Don't do or say something that will aid someone who wants to do suppress whatever we want to call a human right at the moment" is a harder line to avoid, and will probably just lead to citizens keeping their mouths shut.
(Not, of course, that this guy in particular shouldn't do so!)

re: #52 Lee Coller

I have mixed feelings on this. While I have no sympathy for Duke, recognize that he was arrested for exercising what would be his first amendment rights had he been in the US.

Sucks for him that he wasn't in the US. Maybe the US won't let him back in if he gets convicted.

re: #15 razorbacker

Always with the disappointment.

I misread it as 'punched'.

I need new reading glasses, I guess.

I'm guessing before it's over there'll be some punching, too. Czech jails are no czoch.

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

I imagine the threshold is a little different for countries that have been under Nazi occupation.

/Altho this begs the question of why there are Czech neo-Nazis...

I thought all the Sudetendeutsche were expelled from Czechoslovakia after the war under the Benes Decrees.

re: #44 WriterMom

This is a Canadian free zone.

re: #31 Son of the Black Dog

I agree with you. This is thought crimes territory. He's being arrested for what he thinks-not for anything he did.

David Duke Pinched in Prague

I've also been pinched in Prague. Those hookers in Wencelas Square are pretty aggressive.

Duke was to give three lectures in the Czech Republic. The first was to take place at Prague’s Charles University, but the university has banned it.

AHA!

re: #24 Occasional Reader

I believe the traditional punishment is defenestration.

/

I strongly recommend de-something-else-stration. Fascism and anti-Semitism is like a cancer; it springs up in all parts of the globe and infects everything around it.
No pity.

re: #30 MJ

Hmmm. I guess you're a dude. Sorry, I always thought you were a chick.

ok, giant YAWN on this
haven't we disowned him already ?

but as long as the news media does not call him a freaking right winger, I guess I'd be happy

re: #61 Ben Hur

AHA!

NEOFASCIST LINKAGE TO LGF! ALERT PAM!

re: #58 Ben Hur

Oh bite me, EH.

re: #13 JHW

Isn't Moravia somewhat overlapping or partly made up of the old Sudetenland region, which was extremely enthusiastic for the original Nazis?

* * **
You mean they weren't promised a bailout? What socialist wouldn't accept a bailout?

re: #59 WriterMom

I agree with you. This is thought crimes territory. He's being arrested for what he thinks-not for anything he did.

Not so.

The suspicion was that he was going to actively promote neo_nazi groups.

Nazism is illegal in some parts of Europe, no?

now that just makes my Friday afternoon perfect!

be back with fresh cupcakes and updings, and some newly minted /sarc tags!

re: #14 Sharmuta

If david duke goes to jail, he'd miss the pro Köln conference. Bummer.

Too bad, so sad. Hope Duke sees the inside of a cold, old Czech prision for a good spell of time.

re: #44 WriterMom

From the "maybe it's good you're not the President" file:

John McCain Repeats Idiotic Claim That 9/11 Highjackers Came From Canada

Gaffetastic!

Canadians also have beef a with Napolitano over her claims that the United States' northern border and southern border should get similar treatment, even though the southern border is strained by the violent drug war in Mexico.

How stupid is Napolitano?

re: #65 Occasional Reader

NEOFASCIST LINKAGE TO LGF! ALERT PAM!

Charles tricked david duke into going to the Czech Republic.

/spencer mode off

re: #57 GeicoGecko

I thought all the Sudetendeutsche were expelled from Czechoslovakia after the war under the Benes Decrees.

They were. And they, unlike the Palestinians, do not have eternal refugee status. They were long ago integrated into German society, and irredentists are now few and far between.

As for the home-grown Czech Nazis, well, everyone has them. Doesn't mean they're necessarily German ethnics, though they could be. Hell, Israel has them too. Mostly of Russian extraction.

Weeds and cockroaches, you know...

re: #68 Ben Hur

There is a suspicion that he was going to do something? Since when is that a crime?If he did something criminal-that's a different story.

re: #71 Eowyn2

How stupid is Napolitano?

I don't know. How smart is a jar of tomato sauce?

re: #71 Eowyn2

How stupid is Napolitano?

the northern border is where a lot of...ah, er, ahem...
"middle easterners" come in to the US, illegally

our Canadian friends let them into CA willy nilly from 'over there'
then point to a certain point where a crossing into the US is easy
and DHS knows this

Arrested for "suspicion of promotion of movements seeking suppression of human rights"-exactly what does that mean?

Irony. How delicious.

re: #74 WriterMom

There is a suspicion that he was going to do something? Since when is that a crime?If he did something criminal-that's a different story.

They probably monitor the groups. Know that they invited him and for what, etc.

re: #77 WriterMom

Arrested for "suspicion of promotion of movements seeking suppression of human rights"-exactly what does that mean?

Cheerleader for Nazis

re: #71 Eowyn2

How stupid is Napolitano?

She is so stupid, if brains were dynamite, she wouldn't have enough to blow her nose.

re: #77 WriterMom

Arrested for "suspicion of promotion of movements seeking suppression of human rights"-exactly what does that mean?

Talking about promoting anti-Semitism and xenophobia among the Euro far-right.

re: #77 WriterMom

Arrested for "suspicion of promotion of movements seeking suppression of human rights"-exactly what does that mean?

Sound it out.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

re: #44 WriterMom

From the "maybe it's good you're not the President" file:

John McCain Repeats Idiotic Claim That 9/11 Highjackers Came From Canada

Gaffetastic!

* * * *
Could he mean French speaker Zacharias Moussaoui ( the 20th jihadi hijacker) or other Francophone moslems from perhaps FOILED PLOTS who did enter the US?
Perhaps he meant the Millenium Plot moslems.

re: #75 Erik The Red

I don't know. How smart is a jar of tomato sauce?

Ragu or Hunt's?...

re: #80 Creeping Eruption

Look-I'm not defending a shit-head creep like him, but this seems very vague, and just being a mother-fokking Jew-hater is not illegal, even in Eurabia.

Here's my problem with this. You try to ban people from saying something the first thing that jumps to the uninformed mind is, "What are they trying to hide? What are they afraid of?"

And before you know it, you've got idjits running around Europe (where this sort of speech is not legal) convinced that DA JUICE is running the world, hiding the truth, and only interested in the blood of gentile virgin chillens for their matzo balls.

Get it out in the open and stomp that sucker flat.

Repeat as necessary.

No such thing as a thought crime. Think what you want. Be careful what you do, though.

There may not be the drug gangs, but the northern border is known as an easy entrance. Although when I worked in northern Minnesota for a time, the biggest challenge was for the Canadians...how were they going to sneak booze across the border (into Canada) and avoid the GST and other taxes.

-If purchasing something like a refrigerator, open the box, fill it with cases of beer, then put the box back on and hope customs doesn't look.
-Buy some 2 liter bottles of pop, dump out the pop and refill with hard alcohol.

I have no mixed feelings about this at all. When you travel to a foreign country, you are bound by the laws of that country.

David Duke absolutely deserves everything and anything he gets, including a 3-year prison sentence. This man has been responsible for spreading evil and hatred his whole life. I hope they throw the book at him.

re: #82 lawhawk

Talking about promoting it? Or actually promoting it...you see what I mean?

Duke got picked up for wroting a bad Chek

re: #77 WriterMom

Arrested for "suspicion of promotion of movements seeking suppression of human rights"-exactly what does that mean?

* * * *
I don't know, but it would be great if they'd use it against Ahmedinejad & Kim Il Jong.

In the not-too-distant future:

The Czech Spanish police arrested David Duke George W. Bush, former leader of the Ku Klux Klan racist movement President of the US, in Prague Madrid today on suspicion of promotion of movements seeking suppression of human rights, Prague Madrid police spokesman told CTK.

re: #85 Dustyvet

Ragu or Hunt's?...

I prefer home made. We don't get bottled stuff here. Which one is better.

Whether or not you agree with David Duke;

The idea of selective thought crimes is troublesome, the Left is famous for this sort of thing. The question in all cases is WHEN is speech a crime? We're all familiar with the 'you can't yell fire' argument; however I don't see any good argument against 'political' speech or 'belief' speech - if there is one - then when will the Euros shut down the hate filled mosques that in the end will be their ruin?

Pinched? Ooh! On the face cheek or the butt cheek?

re: #86 WriterMom

Look-I'm not defending a shit-head creep like him, but this seems very vague, and just being a mother-fokking Jew-hater is not illegal, even in Eurabia.

I believe that Holocaust deniel is, however, a crime. Duke was in Iran not too long ago at an entire Holocaust denying conference. Maybe they took that into consideration.

so, if they execute him for his crimes
is he then a "cancelled Czeck" ?

WriterMom...that's what I was thinking. Sounds a bit preemptive.

Charles...good point. We forget that other nations have more restrictive laws then us on things like hate speach. I believe you can't say "Heil Hitler" in Germany.

re: #89 Charles

When you travel to a foreign country, you are bound by the laws of that country.

I don't think anyone is arguing against that. But I personally wouldn't want to live in a country with this law, for reasons outlined above, even though I'd probably never be subject to it.

It's all part of the New World Order DHS crackdown on conservatives!

re: #91 DaddyG

Duke got picked up for wroting a bad Chek

A Russian scientist and a Czechoslovakian scientist had spent their whole lives studying the majestic grizzly bear. Each year they petitioned their respective governments to allow them to go to Yellowstone to study these wondrous beasts. Finally, their request was granted and they immediately flew to New York and then west to Yellowstone. They reported to the local ranger station and were told that it was the grizzly mating season and it was much too dangerous to go out and study the animals. They pleaded that this was their only chance. Finally the ranger relented. The Russian and the Czech were given cell phones and told to report in each day.

For several days they called in, and then nothing was heard from the two scientists. The rangers mounted a search party and found the scientists' camp completely ravaged. There was no sign of the missing men.

They then followed the trail of a male and a female bear. They found the female and decided they must kill the animal to find out if she had eaten the scientists, because they feared an international incident. They killed the female and cut open the bear's stomach and, sure enough, found the remains of the Russian.

One ranger turned to the other and said, "You know what this means, don't you?"

"Of course," the other ranger nodded. "The Czech is in the male."

re: #31 Son of the Black Dog

As much as I loath David Duke, I have mixed feelings about this. I'm uncomfortable with laws that regulate what people say, write, or think, no matter how reprehensible. The latter being, for example, hate crimes, where the police divine the intent of the perp and raise the level of seriousness of something that would normally be a simple crime anyway. These laws can cut both ways, as members of the Bush administration may be about to find out.

I agree. I'm not comfortable with the act of giving voice to or writing an idea - however I might disagree with that idea - being a crime. Thought crime smacks of Big Brother.

In the USA, these things are not a crime unless they incite to criminal behavor, such as violence, and I think that is as far as we should go at the outside.

re: #93 solomonpanting

The Czechs are on 'our side' on this case, and David Duke is a POS asshole, but isn't a 'crime' like suspicion of promoting hatred something that could be equally applied to people that the left considers distasteful and hateful?

re: #34 AMER1CAN

Maybe Spencer and Geller can bail him out?

Spencer will defend the freedom of speech and equality of rights of all people. Besides, just because there is a photo of Duke wearing a clan Grand Dragon-style sheet doesn't prove anything.

/better put the damn sarc tag...

I wonder why the Czechs want to bother having him in jail and why not just escort him to the boarder and have him become a problem for someone else. Duke is never going to change and apparently is to stuipd to learn anything and he just won't go away.

No Plzensky Prazdroj for the Dukester!

way way OT..so long Pontiac...
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
sorry for the cnn link..was going to check a baseball score on SI and I saw this. shame. I always thoguht that Pontiacs were good cars. Bonnevilles, GTO, grand Ams, Firebirds, etc...a shame really.

re: #98 Adrenalyn

so, if they execute him for his crimes
is he then a "cancelled Czeck" ?

Well, if he were Czeck.
And if they sent the remains back to the US:
The Czeck is in the mail.

re: #85 Dustyvet

Ragu or Hunt's?...

Ragu jars are smart, because they let me open them without hurting my hand.

re: #86 WriterMom

Look-I'm not defending a shit-head creep like him, but this seems very vague, and just being a mother-fokking Jew-hater is not illegal, even in Eurabia.

I know, and most of us are very cognizant of our free speech rights - but those are ours, not theirs. Duke must have done something to run afoul of their laws, or at least draw suspicion upon himself. While it may not rise to the level worthy of police investigation here . . .

At least the cocksucker (not that there is anything wrong with that) knows how Israelis feel traveling around Europe with assholes constantly threatening to arrest them.

Arrested for promoting the suppression of human rights?

Can we get some of those cops over here? I just did the math on all taxes we pay and it's well over 60% of take home pay.

I feel suppressed.

Mwahahahahaha! Fuckin' nazi bastard.

re: #109 solomonpanting

Well, if he were Czeck.
And if they sent the remains back to the US:
The Czeck is in the mail.

I am saying, politely, that he is a Czeck
by virute of the old cliche'

when in Rome...

re: #89 Charles

Funny how Duke's Jew-hating attributes fetched him a handsome speaking fee for flying all the way to Qatar, but gets him thrown in the clink in the Czech republic...

/and I don't mean 'ironic'...I mean 'Ha-ha! Sucks to be you, Nazi douchenozzle!'

Duke, a U.S. citizen, is suspected of denying or approving of the Nazi genocide and other Nazi crimes

Hitler approved them. David Duke's pinheaded concurrence is meaningless.

re: #104 WriterMom

The Czechs are on 'our side' on this case, and David Duke is a POS asshole, but isn't a 'crime' like suspicion of promoting hatred something that could be equally applied to people that the left considers distasteful and hateful?

That's why I used Spain as an example.

re: #86 WriterMom

Look-I'm not defending a shit-head creep like him, but this seems very vague, and just being a mother-fokking Jew-hater is not illegal, even in Eurabia.

Oh yes you are!

I'm on to you.

You're Pam's sock puppet!

re: #113 pingjockey

ping-how would you feel if an Israeli IDF officer, or former officer was arrested in a European country for suspicion of willfully promoting hatred, by the virtue of the fact that he was in the IDF?

This crime is punishable by up to three years in prison in the Czech Republic.

Ouch. I wonder if we'll attempt to help him out. I have a hard time imagining Obama stepping up to help David Duke but anything's possible.

Maybe we need more info...what exactly are they saying he did. Not saying I disagree with the arrest, but just to make a point.

Can they arrest Bill Mahr for anti-Christian statements? Or is it because Duke is tied to promoting violence, not just talking bigotry. If the Czechs felt his goal was to promote violence, that would make a difference.

re: #118 Ben Hur

Ohfercrisssake, BenHur you're a lunatic.

I neezs sleep. Later Lizards. See you on yhe LNDT.
_{If I am not to busy at work}

re: #89 Charles

I grew up watching this guy close up. Couldn't happen to nicer guy.

Are Geller and Spencer organizing a team of lawyers for his defense?

re: #117 solomonpanting

Or the UK for example. If this happened to someone on 'our' side in 'Old Europe', we'd be freaking out.

re: #119 WriterMom
I'd be frakkin' pissed off hopping mad. You mean some countries actually want to arrest IDF personnel? That's mad.

re: #103 Cattt

I agree.

It's warring with my instinctive "good!". Really, though, the only antidote to poisonous speech is better speech.

re: #122 WriterMom

Ohfercrisssake, BenHur you're a lunatic.

Silence! Far right whatever you are!

I'm having trouble coming up with what to say about this. I really dislike David Duke but I'm also feeling very reluctant to spew forth the venomous bile that is my feelings for him.

Hopefully the Czech prosecutors have done their homework, have their ducks in a row, and will get Mister Duke locked away for a while. The downside of such a thing might be that he gains credibility and stature in the eyes of any supporters.

If they do lock him away hopefully it will be without writing materials. Should he be locked up for content of his book "My Awakening" would it be far fetched to see him try to write "My Struggle" while locked up?

re: #89 Charles

You better watch yourself if you ever go to the Czech Republic. It would be easy for some lawyer over there to pull up LGF and select some of your posts that are critical of Islamofascism and throw that same book at you.

re: #120 Killgore Trout

Ouch. I wonder if we'll attempt to help him out. I have a hard time imagining Obama stepping up to help David Duke but anything's possible.

That would be... quite unexpected, I think. Pity the poor consular official who has to attend to this creep.

Been at work more than 24 hrs. Brain hurts. Must leave before doing more damage to the legal profession.

See some of y'all tomorrow.

re: #72 Sharmuta

Charles tricked david duke into going to the Czech Republic.

/spencer mode off

Belgian psyops

/dymphna mode off

re: #127 pingjockey

Yes, the Palestinians have done this in Britain and in Spain. One IDF general had to stay on the El Al plane and not disembark because there was an arrest warrant. This could happen to American officials in Europe too-for "crimes" they may have never even heard of.

re: #129 Ben Hur

Silence! Far right whatever you are!

Is it any coincidence her nic is RighterMom?

/

re: #135 Thanos

Belgian psyops

/dymphna mode off

LMAO! I forgot about that.

From the article:

Czech lawyer Klara Kalibova said some passages of the book can be interpreted as an effort at justifying or challenging the Holocaust.

Czech police are reportedly focusing on the book as well.

The shame is that he will probably get the David Irving suite of the prison. The tragedy is that this will only endear him to his followers.

re: #129 Ben Hur

Look, I am a noted Islamophobic Fear Mongering Zionazi Hater, but I ain't no socky, damnit.

re: #137 Occasional Reader

Is it any coincidence her nic is RighterMom?

/

You know?

You may be onto something!

I'm no fan of David Duke (and to the contrary, I believe he's despicable), but IMO freedom speech comes first here.

It shouldn't be a crime to be a racist or to deny the holocaust.

What that situation needs or more speech, not a muzzle on Duke's speech.

re: #104 WriterMom

The Czechs are on 'our side' on this case, and David Duke is a POS asshole, but isn't a 'crime' like suspicion of promoting hatred something that could be equally applied to people that the left considers distasteful and hateful?

The problem with making an emotion a crime is it can be applied to virtually anyone the current people in charge want to. Except Mr. Spock, of course.

re: #138 Sharmuta

LMAO! I forgot about that.

She was using the notion in comments over at Rick Moran's the other day

re: #130 drogheda

Hopefully the Czech prosecutors have done their homework, have their ducks in a row, and will get Mister Duke locked away for a while.

I almost can't believe I'm writing this but... [deep breath]... I wouldn't really be able to support that outcome, in good faith.

Duke is an utter creep.

But it shouldn't be against the law to be a creep.

re: #104 WriterMom

The Czechs are on 'our side' on this case, and David Duke is a POS asshole, but isn't a 'crime' like suspicion of promoting hatred something that could be equally applied to people that the left considers distasteful and hateful?

I believe it's not just general distaste and hatred but of a Nazi flavor and that's what the law is meant for. Whether the individual is of a particular political bent doesn't matter. It is the content related to Nazism.

re: #119 WriterMom

ping-how would you feel if an Israeli IDF officer, or former officer was arrested in a European country for suspicion of willfully promoting hatred, by the virtue of the fact that he was in the IDF?

IIRC, the Europeans have already been making noises about arresting IDF officers and members of the Israeli government for crimes against the Palestinians.

re: #137 Occasional Reader

You and the Hur better watch yourselves...I have people, highly placed people everywhere...PARTICULARLY on the eastern seaboard.

re: #143 looking closely

I'm no fan of David Duke (and to the contrary, I believe he's despicable), but IMO freedom speech comes first here.

It shouldn't be a crime to be a racist or to deny the holocaust.

What that situation needs or more speech, not a muzzle on Duke's speech.

You are assuming they have "freedom of speech."

re: #146 Occasional Reader

EXACTLY.

re: #143 looking closely

I'm no fan of David Duke (and to the contrary, I believe he's despicable), but IMO freedom speech comes first here.

It shouldn't be a crime to be a racist or to deny the holocaust.

What that situation needs or more speech, not a muzzle on Duke's speech.

I think they are a little more sensitive about that sh*t over there than over here.

re: #136 WriterMom
Be back in a bit. Avanti has royally pissed me off on the the other thread.

re: #139 Creeping Eruption

From the article:

Czech lawyer Klara Kalibova said some passages of the book can be interpreted as an effort at justifying or challenging the Holocaust.

Czech police are reportedly focusing on the book as well.

Well, there you go. As I stated earlier, I belive that Holocaust denial IS a crime in most (all?) European countries.

re: #147 CommonCents

What if it were Zionism?

Let's take up a collection to send Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller to Prague

I hate Duke and what he stands for, but this is not good -- unless he was specifically there to advocate violence or further violence.

re: #151 WriterMom

EXACTLY.

If it were against the law to be a creep, think of what would happen to Ben Hur (to take only one example).

re: #145 Thanos

She was using the notion in comments over at Rick Moran's the other day

Didn't she claim "Belgian psyops" when the first counter-jihad conference was exposed?

re: #153 pingjockey

Be back in a bit. Avanti has royally pissed me off on the the other thread.

So what else is new?

I have a problem with someone being arrested for what they wrote in a book or for political beliefs in general.

As Americans, as vile as the scum are that we get to see on almost a daily basis now, we cannot applaud the arrest and possible prison term for someone whom we vehemently disagree with.

As someone who was offended by the DHS report (I have conservative views on immigration, guns, taxes, etc.), I had a slight cringe in my stomach when right there in print it said someone like me could be a domestic terrorist.

As was posted earlier, there are some leftist out there that want crimes against humanity for Global Warming sekptics. There is a huge push to make criticism of Islam a crime at the UN. There are rumblings about a Fairness Doctrine here that will dictate what opinions media must air and print.

We cannot follow down this path. As much as Duke is a total scumbag, this is not a step forward.

re: #154 Russkilitlover

Well, there you go. As I stated earlier, I belive that Holocaust denial IS a crime in most (all?) European countries.

So let the fucker rot in jail.

re: #158 Occasional Reader

LOLOLOL. Yes, imagine!

re: #20 Occasional Reader

Once again, I get mixed feelings about this stuff.

On the one hand, David Duke has a bad day, which is a good thing.

On the other hand, it's more of these slippery European laws that seem to undermine free speech. (Which, IMHO, really only help to fuel extremists, by giving them the veneer of being edgy "outlaws".)

I agree.

I hate David Duke, but I hate totalitarian laws just as much. In America, one is free to hold whatever opinions one wants. That is in fact the underlying basis of our free society. As soon as we start arresting people for thought-crimes -- even if we hate what they're thinking -- then it's a very slippery slope for other thought-crimes to be added to the list.

Of course, The Czech Republic is a foreign country, and they can do whatever they want to do, but it brings me no joy to see even my enemies persecuted for just having the wrong opinion.

What they ought to do is simply expel him from the country and tell him never to come back. But to throw someone in jail for simply stepping across the border while thinking a bad thought -- that's scary to me. As much as we hate neo-Nazis, do we really want to criminalize thinking?

We all seem to be uncomfortable with certain beliefs being criminalized and expressing those beliefs being a jail-able offense. That is certainly understandable given the current US administrations belief that prior policies and judicial rulings are criminal, that some speech is "hate speech" and criminal, and that some crimes are more egregious and therefore need harsher punishment because of what the perp was thinking. Consider however that if we become more European the world, or at least Europe, will like us more and we will be much more comfortable admitting we are Americans next time we vacation on the continent.

re: #156 Shug

Let's take up a collection to send Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller to Prague

What do you have against Prague.? It is a beautiful city.

re: #159 Sharmuta

Didn't she claim "Belgian psyops" when the first counter-jihad conference was exposed?

Belgian psyops, it's her story, she's sticking with it.

re: #155 WriterMom

What if it were Zionism?

They would have to pass a law forbidding Zionism first, but they haven't. That's their law, no Nazi crap, period.

re: #143 looking closely

I'm no fan of David Duke (and to the contrary, I believe he's despicable), but IMO freedom speech comes first here.
It shouldn't be a crime to be a racist or to deny the holocaust.
What that situation needs or more speech, not a muzzle on Duke's speech.

Freedom of speech does come first here, but he isn't here.

re: #152 Ben Hur

I think they are a little more sensitive about that sh*t over there than over here.

I (Anschluss) can't (Sudetenland) imagine (Polish invasion) why (Holocaust).

re: #143 looking closely

.

It shouldn't be a crime to be a racist or to deny the holocaust.

But in some European countries I belive that it IS against the law to deny the Holocaust - actually a law on the books.

re: #132 nikis-knight

That would be... quite unexpected, I think. Pity the poor consular official who has to attend to this creep.

Not really. Embassies and State Dept usually step in to assist American citizens who get arrested abroad. Especially on something like hatespeech/blasphemy laws. Duke is such an awful cretin that we might just let him rot. I'm afraid to go look at Stormfront's commentary on this. I'm sure they're using Obama's race to stoke the fires.

re: #158 Occasional Reader

If it were against the law to be a creep, think of what would happen to Ben Hur (to take only one example).

They'd only turn me right side up once a year!

re: #89 Charles

I have no mixed feelings about this at all. When you travel to a foreign country, you are bound by the laws of that country.

David Duke absolutely deserves everything and anything he gets, including a 3-year prison sentence. This man has been responsible for spreading evil and hatred his whole life. I hope they throw the book at him.

I know some of the folks who work at the American Embassy there. Duke won't get much help from them.

There's two different trains of thought that seem to be colliding on this thread. No, it probably shouldn't be a crime to do what Duke is doing (although there must be limits to free speech at some point, and particularly in Europe, he's probably crossing some of them). Be that as it may, it is a crime, and I for one am not at all disappointed to see him rotting in a Czech jail. Have a nice trip, Mr. Douche.

re: #131 Land Shark

You better watch yourself if you ever go to the Czech Republic. It would be easy for some lawyer over there to pull up LGF and select some of your posts that are critical of Islamofascism and throw that same book at you.

No, it wouldn't. David Duke was arrested for Holocaust denial, which is a crime in many European countries.

Mmmm... Belgian psyops...

OT - cutest guy in my group passed his licensing exam. All the women in the group happy now.

re: #164 zombie

Agree with you completely on this.

re: #178 Cattt

OT - cutest guy in my group passed his licensing exam. All the women in the group happy now.

Licensing in what prey tell?

161 n2stox

I have a problem with someone being arrested for what they wrote in a book or for political beliefs in general.

I believe several European nations have laws about Holocaust denial, Nazi symbols, etc. Recall that France sued Ebay because Ebay was selling WWII relics, including German pins, banners, etc that had swastikas on them. But the question is, if Duke said or wrote something in another nation, can the Czechs (who are the good guys in Europe) arrest him in there country under their laws?

re: #178 Cattt

Awesome. Can we point this thread in the direction of cute guys instead of asshole Jew-hating scumsucker douchebags now?

re: #170 Honorary Yooper

I (Anschluss) can't (Sudetenland) imagine (Polish invasion) why (Holocaust).

A brazillion updings for that! Very good!

re: #172 Killgore Trout

I meant it would be unexpected for Obama personally to "step up" and help him out.

re: #183 WriterMom

Awesome. Can we point this thread in the direction of cute guys instead of asshole Jew-hating scumsucker douchebags now?

Duke is kinda cute, in a Nazi kinda way.

re: #186 Ben Hur

I'd ding that down if I weren't laughing.

re: #182 Dave the...

161 n2stox

I believe several European nations have laws about Holocaust denial, Nazi symbols, etc. Recall that France sued Ebay because Ebay was selling WWII relics, including German pins, banners, etc that had swastikas on them. But the question is, if Duke said or wrote something in another nation, can the Czechs (who are the good guys in Europe) arrest him in there country under their laws?

That's where it gets a little sticky. My first inclination was that he shouldn't be arrested because he hadn't done anything yet. But then what if someone announces "I'm about to commit a crime, here I come" can you bust them before they do it? I would think so, but I'm no lawyer.

Czechmate, bitch! HAHA!

re: #146 Occasional Reader

I almost can't believe I'm writing this but... [deep breath]... I wouldn't really be able to support that outcome, in good faith.

Duke is an utter creep.

But it shouldn't be against the law to be a creep.

I agree. I'm sure he has violated some other law while there. Jay-walking or some traffic violation. I'd like to see him do a few days in the can just because he is a disgusting person. Is that wrong of me?

re: #176 Charles

No, it wouldn't. David Duke was arrested for Holocaust denial, which is a crime in many European countries.

In some countries however we would be toast for our opinions on the ROP.

re: #182 Dave the...

can the Czechs (who are the good guys in Europe) arrest him in there country under their laws?

Moot point . . . they just did.

Did someone say something about Czech women in Daisy Dukes? Are there links?

re: #181 Nevergiveup

Licensing in what prey tell?

FINRA.

re: #89 Charles

I have no mixed feelings about this at all. When you travel to a foreign country, you are bound by the laws of that country.

David Duke absolutely deserves everything and anything he gets, including a 3-year prison sentence. This man has been responsible for spreading evil and hatred his whole life. I hope they throw the book at him.

I'm a bit surprised to see this from you.

Nobody is saying the Czech's can't make these laws or even enforce them. . .if they want to criminalize "hate" speech, or curtail freedom of association, I suppose they can do that.

Some people (many people, in fact) really do NOT believe in freedom of speech, which, as you know, exists solely to protect unpopular speech.

The problem is that these things are always a slippery slope. Criminalizing hate speech is intrinsically problematic.

I'd rather let everyone see EXACTLY what David Duke has to say, and EXACTLY whom he likes to hang out with.

re: #186 Ben Hur

Duke is kinda cute, in a Nazi kinda way.

You always were a sucker for that "He-Wolf of the SS" look.

/

re: #182 Dave the...

161 n2stox

I believe several European nations have laws about Holocaust denial, Nazi symbols, etc. Recall that France sued Ebay because Ebay was selling WWII relics, including German pins, banners, etc that had swastikas on them. But the question is, if Duke said or wrote something in another nation, can the Czechs (who are the good guys in Europe) arrest him in there country under their laws?

I don't agree with the laws, I would rather the haters be known. On the other hand, DD runs forums, has frequent contacts with the Euros, and knows the laws over there, it's not like he can say he was ignorant. /but we can...

re: #194 Cattt

FINRA.

OK thanks.

So Nazi lover Duke got pinched by a nation rolled over by Nazis.

Sweet.

re: #198 Nevergiveup

OK thanks.

Yes, I know. Yawwwn. :D

re: #190 KenJen

I'd like to see him do a few days in the can just because he is a disgusting person. Is that wrong of me?

No. And it's not like I'm exactly volunteering for the Duke Defense Fund myself, mind you.

I am uncomfortable with speech leading to criminal charges. David Duke is a "douchenozzle" and a clown, but I don't believe he should be charged with a crime unless there was a crime committed. Show me the crime. It is not unlike the "hate" crime legislation we have here. I hate the term "hate" crime. I have never heard of a love crime.

re: #121 Dave the...

Maybe we need more info...what exactly are they saying he did. Not saying I disagree with the arrest, but just to make a point.

Can they arrest Bill Mahr for anti-Christian statements? Or is it because Duke is tied to promoting violence, not just talking bigotry. If the Czechs felt his goal was to promote violence, that would make a difference.

I feel the same way.

As much as I detest David Duke and all be believes, the idea of being arrested for something written or said, other than libel, slander, or incitement of violence, is problematic, especially when it took place elsewhere.

Watched a recorded episode of American Idol yesterday.

The guest...whatever, was Quentin Tarintino.

Now, I know he has that new Nazi flik coming out and all, but I'm telling you, he had a straight up Hitler hair cut going on.

I wonder what "yur shure gots a awful pretty mouth" sounds like in Czech.

I say we get the prison address and all ship him soap on a rope.

re: #185 nikis-knight

I meant it would be unexpected for Obama personally to "step up" and help him out.

So far his Administration can only express concern and disappointment for the 3 Americans being held on espionage charges in North Korea and Iran. They can't even muster up to strongly worded letter.

European laws against Holocaust denial are not new; Duke should have been aware of the potential that he'd be arrested. He probably was.

And Europe, we may recall, has some very good reasons for outlawing Holocaust denial.

We don't arrest people like David Duke in the US, and we shouldn't.

But if he goes to prison in the Czech Republic, I'm not going to waste any time decrying the Czech laws against Holocaust denial. I'm going to simply say, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

re: #186 Ben Hur

Hilarious. ROFL.

Hmmm, I wonder if they have "comunity service" over there?

re: #28 Sharmuta

Heehee.

^{it was me}

Killgore STILL hasn't fixed it?

/what did you do to it?
/LOL

re: #150 Creeping Eruption

You are assuming they have "freedom of speech."

To the contrary, its clear that they do NOT have freedom of speech, which is the whole point.

In my opinion, the Czechs (and the other Europeans who enforce these sorts of rules) have more to lose from banning this "hate" speech than from permitting it.

re: #205 crimeshark

I wonder what "yur shure gots a awful pretty mouth" sounds like in Czech.

I say we get the prison address and all ship him soap on a rope.

LOL.

re: #202 Truck Monkey

I am uncomfortable with speech leading to criminal charges. David Duke is a "douchenozzle" and a clown, but I don't believe he should be charged with a crime unless there was a crime committed. Show me the crime.

The crime is Holocaust denial, which is against the law in the Czech Republic.

re: #20 Occasional Reader

Once again, I get mixed feelings about this stuff.

On the one hand, David Duke has a bad day, which is a good thing.

On the other hand, it's more of these slippery European laws that seem to undermine free speech. (Which, IMHO, really only help to fuel extremists, by giving them the veneer of being edgy "outlaws".)

I really, really, really hate Europe's laws against free speech.

On the other hand, fuck David Duke.

Why, oh why must I be faced with this moral dilemma...

re: #196 Occasional Reader

A "Helga" kind of thing.

re: #210 buzzsawmonkey

I've mentioned that you're my hero, right?

re: #200 Cattt

Yes, I know. Yawwwn. :D

Yeah I was trying to be polite.

re: #196 Occasional Reader

You always were a sucker for that "He-Wolf of the SS" look.

/

Hugo Boss.

re: #176 Charles

Along with the display of swastikas and any Nazi or Neo-Nazi paraphanelia. Apparently, this is also a law on the books in post-Soviet Russia and there is a neo-Nazi party there that modified it's insignia enough for it to be legal. Apparently it resembled some sort of Navajo tribal symbol instead. They had comedian Lew Black on Craig Killborn's Daily Show (before sanctimonious turd John Steward stepped in- anyone else remember that?) voicing over some stock footage of their railles and he was saying "Oh look- it's a gaggle of unemployed, angry Russian Neo-Navajos"

re: #210 buzzsawmonkey

So, what is the Praguenosis of Duke's fate?

Czeck back next week.

BenHur and OR are on a roll today...LOLOLOL.

re: #191 Rancher

In some countries however we would be toast for our opinions on the ROP.

Saudi Arabia, maybe. Or Great Britain.

I feel conflicted...

Jewish Law says that we should not rejoice over the troubles of our enemies.

And yet...

re: #199 researchok

So Nazi lover Duke got pinched by a nation rolled over by Nazis.

Actually, the West rolled over and let it happen... shameful.

An interesting, and not very well-known aspect: Czechoslovakia in 1937-38 was, pound for pound, one of the best-armed countries in Europe. The elite Wehrmacht tank corps at the time were equipped with Czech-made tanks. They were simply too small to resist Germany successfully. By allowing Hitler to devour Czechoslovakia, Chamberlain et al not only engaged in appeasement, but actually handed Hitler an easy victory over a potentially "punching above their weight" Western Ally.

re: #182 Dave the...

Today it's holocaust denial, which I believe is also illegal in Britain.

If it's OK to jail someone for that, what's next?

He's been arrested for a thought crime. Nothing more, nothing less.

This is liberalism run amok. Speech is free, as long as its their speech.

I don't think we should applaud that law, or the arrest. It's no different than China throwing a journalist in jail for mentioning opinions on Tianmen Square, which is a crime in China.

re: #214 Charles

The crime is Holocaust denial, which is against the law in the Czech Republic.

Is

suspicion of promotion of movements seeking suppression of human rights

only code for Holocaust denial? The phrasing in the article makes the law sound quite broad in scope.

re: #203 goddessoftheclassroom

I feel the same way.

As much as I detest David Duke and all be believes, the idea of being arrested for something written or said, other than libel, slander, or incitement of violence, is problematic, especially when it took place elsewhere.

On top of the princile of the thing this may provide Duke with some free publicity. That disturbs me.

re: #210 buzzsawmonkey

So, what is the Praguenosis of Duke's fate?

Czechered.

re: #195 looking closely

I'd rather let everyone see EXACTLY what David Duke has to say, and EXACTLY whom he likes to hang out with.

That's what we do in the US, and that's what we should do. I'm certainly not advocating European-style laws in the US.

But if you travel to a country where Holocaust denial is illegal -- for good reasons -- and you're a Holocaust denier, I'm not going to stick up for you.

re: #216 WriterMom

A "Helga" kind of thing.

I have a mole fetish.

re: #232 buzzsawmonkey

I did!

There isn't a country in the world that has absolute free speech, including the USA. The Secret Service will pay you a visit if you cross certain lines. The Czech Republic is its own master, with its own history, to decide where their lines are, and visitors like Duke have the responsibility to abide by a country's laws if they visit it.

re: #226 n2stox

Today it's holocaust denial, which I believe is also illegal in Britain.

If it's OK to jail someone for that, what's next?

He's been arrested for a thought crime. Nothing more, nothing less.

This is liberalism run amok. Speech is free, as long as its their speech.

I don't think we should applaud that law, or the arrest. It's no different than China throwing a journalist in jail for mentioning opinions on Tianmen Square, which is a crime in China.

What an ass. Comparing denying the deaths of millions to speaking out for freedom demonstrates a moral equivalence meter that seriously in need of repair.

More details from Stormfront...

On Friday afternoon cops arrested in Prague's restaurant "Black Eagle" former Ku Klux Klan boss David Duke. They transported him to interrogation for suspicion that he denied and approved Nazi crimes, for this crime in Czech Republic he can be condemned up to 3 years.

"Mr Duke was arrested after previous approval state deputy for suspicion for committed crime of supporting and promoting movements which are try to suppress human rights and freedoms" told speaker of Prague cops Jan Mikulovsky.

According to newspaper Pravo, reason for arresting is holocaust denial.

Police arrested American right after redactor of Pravo made interview with him. On the place of cop's strike was about 30 cops in masks, which transported Duke away.

"I don't afraid being arrested, it was never happened in any Europe country before," told Duke to Pravo 15 minutes before cops arrested him.

Duke's visit is organized by Filip Vavra, which is suspect to be connected to neonazi National Resistance. American came to make two lecture - at Saturday in Prague's center and at Sunday in Brno. He came also to promote his book My Awakening freshly published in Czech.
...
EDIT 9:40 PM CET
Duke's attorney Kolja Kubicek told to ČTK (Czech Press Agency), that police will probably accuse Duke and propose a detention because of risk of escape and continuing with committing the crimes. American does not denied holocaust and do not promote racism, said Kubicek.

Heh.

re: #203 goddessoftheclassroom

I feel the same way.

As much as I detest David Duke and all be believes, the idea of being arrested for something written or said, other than libel, slander, or incitement of violence, is problematic, especially when it took place elsewhere.

I thought it had to do with the book that is being sold there.

re: #202 Truck Monkey

Are you saying the Czechs should make a special exception from enforcing their laws for David Duke?

Ya know I would be kinda pissed if the Czechs (or the UN for that matter)
wanted to comment on our laws... just saying.

re: #195 looking closely

I'm a bit surprised to see this from you.

Nobody is saying the Czech's can't make these laws or even enforce them. . .if they want to criminalize "hate" speech, or curtail freedom of association, I suppose they can do that.

Some people (many people, in fact) really do NOT believe in freedom of speech, which, as you know, exists solely to protect unpopular speech.

The problem is that these things are always a slippery slope. Criminalizing hate speech is intrinsically problematic.

I'd rather let everyone see EXACTLY what David Duke has to say, and EXACTLY whom he likes to hang out with.

It comes down to the rule of law. We either believe it's supposed to be upheld, or we don't. When the law is unjust, we should work to correct it, not dismiss it. Because in dismissing it, we undermine the process, and when we undermine the process, we start getting into judicial activism.

This is not American law, so it's difficult for me to support these laws, because I see them as un-American. Despite the international differences though, I still think the process should be upheld. Imagine a bunch of euros telling us how to execute our laws!

re: #224 LudwigVanQuixote

I feel conflicted...

Jewish Law says that we should not rejoice over the troubles of our enemies.

And yet...

I am glad you mention that. At Pesach my family tradition (as in many families) is to drop some wine out of your cup when reciting the ten plagues for the very reason you mention. I am a conscientious objector to that tradition.

re: #220 Fenway_Nation

Along with the display of swastikas and any Nazi or Neo-Nazi paraphanelia. Apparently, this is also a law on the books in post-Soviet Russia and there is a neo-Nazi party there that modified it's insignia enough for it to be legal. Apparently it resembled some sort of Navajo tribal symbol instead. They had comedian Lew Black on Craig Killborn's Daily Show (before sanctimonious turd John Steward stepped in- anyone else remember that?) voicing over some stock footage of their railles and he was saying "Oh look- it's a gaggle of unemployed, angry Russian Neo-Navajos"

The swastika is itself a Native American symbol, and not just the Navajo used it. BTW New Mexico State University's yearbook is called The Swastika, or was when I was there.

re: #205 crimeshark

I wonder what "yur shure gots a awful pretty mouth" sounds like in Czech.

I say we get the prison address and all ship him soap on a rope.

With ropes that dissolve when they hit the water.

re: #207 Charles

European laws against Holocaust denial are not new; Duke should have been aware of the potential that he'd be arrested. He probably was.

Maybe he was, but did he actively engage in Holocaust denial while he was in the Czech Republic? It sounds like they are on his case for publications he made outside the country.

And Europe, we may recall, has some very good reasons for outlawing Holocaust denial

Outlawing it hasn't made it go away, has it? In fact, it only adds "stature" to dirtbags like Duke.

We don't arrest people like David Duke in the US, and we shouldn't.

If we shouldn't do it here, why should the Czechs do it?

But if he goes to prison in the Czech Republic, I'm not going to waste any time decrying the Czech laws against Holocaust denial. I'm going to simply say, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

I can certainly understand that, and I agree, its very difficult to feel bad for Duke.

Still, are you going to speak up when the Czech gov't outlaws criticism of Islam, for example?

I love Prague and the thought of David Duke polluting that city by his very presence can make me sick. Good work Czech Republic! I guess Duke wanted to lay a wreath at teh scene of the mortal wounding of Reinhard Heydrich.

re: #186 Ben Hur

Duke is kinda cute, in a Nazi kinda way.

Taken just on looks, he makes me uncomfortable there too - too much obvious plastic surgery. Give me craggy any day.

re: #225 Occasional Reader

Actually, the Czech's did pretty well just after the war-before 1948 (so we're talking only a couple of years after WWII) they were the major supplier of arms to Israel, including critical airplanes and airforce training to pre-State Israel.

re: #207 Charles

And Europe, we may recall, has some very good reasons for outlawing Holocaust denial.

Actually, even for Europe, I still think it's a lousy idea. Again, it makes the deniers seem like cool, persecuted rebels (to a particular kind of mindset... think, unemployed young men).

I recall reading (though would have to find the link) that the Weimar Republic had something fairly closely corresponding to "hate speech" laws. Fat lot of good that did.

That said; no, I'm not exactly going to cry myself to sleep over David Duke behind bars, either.

re: #231 Ben Hur

I bet you do.

re: #240 Sharmuta

Imagine a bunch of euros telling us how to execute our laws!

You mean they ever stopped?!

re: #225 Occasional Reader

Actually, the West rolled over and let it happen... shameful.

An interesting, and not very well-known aspect: Czechoslovakia in 1937-38 was, pound for pound, one of the best-armed countries in Europe. The elite Wehrmacht tank corps at the time were equipped with Czech-made tanks. They were simply too small to resist Germany successfully. By allowing Hitler to devour Czechoslovakia, Chamberlain et al not only engaged in appeasement, but actually handed Hitler an easy victory over a potentially "punching above their weight" Western Ally.

Made purty dang good pilots for the RAF also.

re: #224 LudwigVanQuixote

I feel conflicted...

Jewish Law says that we should not rejoice over the troubles of our enemies.

And yet...

I'm not Jewish...I'll just double my helping of rich, savory schadenfreude on your behalf...

re: #182 Dave the...

161 n2stox

I believe several European nations have laws about Holocaust denial, Nazi symbols, etc. Recall that France sued Ebay because Ebay was selling WWII relics, including German pins, banners, etc that had swastikas on them. But the question is, if Duke said or wrote something in another nation, can the Czechs (who are the good guys in Europe) arrest him in there country under their laws?

I doubt they'd manage to get you extradited for such a thing (unless from another European country with similar laws) but if you deny or downplay the Holocaust and if you are arrogant and stupid enough to travel to their country they can indeed arrest you.

Another update...

Czech political police is asking court to put David Duke into custody. Court should be deciding if David Duke will go to custody.
Duke´s attorney is Kolja Kubicek, very good Czech attorney who is already defending various of Czech white activists.
Court has 48 hours to decide about custody (transfer of Duke to jail).
Main police arguments for custody are: concerns that Duke will continue in „criminal activities“ (=holocaust denial, promoting racism) and concerns that Duke will escape from Czech rep. and avoid his trial.

Looks like they want to hold onto him.

re: #231 Ben Hur

I have a mole fetish.

"Nobody's gay for Moleman."

I suspect Duke knew exactly what he was doing and expects lots of publicity for his trouble. I don't like laws against free speech no matter how disguisting someones beliefs are, but I'm not shedding tears for Duke who either knows or should know what his appearance would lead to.

re: #201 Occasional Reader

I didn't mean to imply that. I am simply giddy at the thought of him in a 8x8 cell for a few days.

re: #207 Charles

European laws against Holocaust denial are not new; Duke should have been aware of the potential that he'd be arrested. He probably was.

And Europe, we may recall, has some very good reasons for outlawing Holocaust denial.

We don't arrest people like David Duke in the US, and we shouldn't.

But if he goes to prison in the Czech Republic, I'm not going to waste any time decrying the Czech laws against Holocaust denial. I'm going to simply say, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

If the denial didn't happen in the Czech Republic, I don't think it's right to prosecute him. I can think of a few things I would be arrested in certain countries because I've done them here and they're illegal there.
If he said or wrote something THERE, he's subject to the law of that land.
[I am NOT defending his vileness, of course.]

Occ Reader

Actually, the West rolled over and let it happen... shameful.

An interesting, and not very well-known aspect: Czechoslovakia in 1937-38 was, pound for pound, one of the best-armed countries in Europe. The elite Wehrmacht tank corps at the time were equipped with Czech-made tanks. They were simply too small to resist Germany successfully. By allowing Hitler to devour Czechoslovakia, Chamberlain et al not only engaged in appeasement, but actually handed Hitler an easy victory over a potentially "punching above their weight" Western Ally.

A while back in an antique show, saw a newspaper from 1938, reporting on the invasion. I was totally surprised that one of subheadlines said something like "Jews rounded up and sent to camps". American media had some foreshadowing knowledge in 1938 of the holocaust.

re: #230 Charles

That's what we do in the US, and that's what we should do. I'm certainly not advocating European-style laws in the US.

But if you travel to a country where Holocaust denial is illegal -- for good reasons -- and you're a Holocaust denier, I'm not going to stick up for you.

Your enemies are waiting for you to do just that, and claim "Hypocrisy!"

Luckily, we know that you don't give a sh*t what others think.

re: #240 Sharmuta

Imagine a bunch of euros telling us how to execute our laws!

Why, such a thing is litterally beyond imagination!

re: #249 WriterMom

I bet you do.

I meant the animal.

I agree that the "hate speech vio" charge is crap.

Is David Duke there without a visa? I don't think it's enough for any random Czech citizen to invite him; the country itself has to invite him in the form of a passport stamp.

Since he's not a Czech citizen, "I just don't like you" is a perfectly legal reason to keep a guy out. If he snuck into the country without a visa, the Czechs can incarcerate him for however long they feel like.

As for his stay, if he's in jail for a thought-crime, the Czechs should release him back here (unfortunately). But if he's not supposed to be there then let the guffawing continue.