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1 yochanan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:17:34pm

ooooh

2 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:19:45pm

Art!

3 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:20:21pm

Cool.

But I can’t be the only one who looked at this photo and felt a sudden urge to yawn.

4 dmandman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:20:22pm

Looks like a Beano ad

5 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:20:34pm

YAWN!

6 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:20:35pm

Cover your mouth!

7 Last Mohican  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:20:48pm

Extremely cool.

8 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:21:43pm

Charles -

“Fauxtography or Art?” The viewer will have to make the call.

-S-

9 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:22:11pm

Even my 4-year-old knows to cover his mouth when yawning!

That aside, that is a pretty cool composite.

10 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:22:12pm
11 Gang of One  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:22:26pm

Intelligent, methinks.

12 brookly red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:22:48pm

re: #8 Dr. Shalit

Charles -

“Fauxtography or Art?” The viewer will have to make the call.

-S-

the art of fauxtography… very cool.

13 DEZes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:23:23pm

Those would be hard fakes to spot.

14 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:23:55pm

re: #8 Dr. Shalit

Charles -

“Fauxtography or Art?” The viewer will have to make the call.

-S-

Art of Fauxtography

15 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:24:19pm

The chick on the far right has practically dislocated her jaw not unlike the reptilian aliens in “V”.

16 DEZes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:24:32pm

re: #14 jcm

Art of Fauxtography

BR beat ya to it. ;)

17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:24:52pm

I would never think to do that.

Clever humans are cool.

18 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:24:58pm

re: #16 DEZes

BR beat ya to it. ;)

*snap*

19 Catttt  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:25:16pm

I love that - especially the smoking one and the manila envelope one.

Men - scroll down to the short dresses and heels one. :D

And notice - typical American crowd compilation each time - melting pot.

20 Gus  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:25:35pm

Very ingenious use of Photoshop and image elements. It’s as though he creates human landscapes with his Babel Tales series.

21 DEZes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:25:41pm

re: #18 jcm

*snap*

I hate it when that happens. ;)

22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:26:21pm

re: #19 Catttt

Noticed the “melting pot” also. I think this (U.S.) is a pretty cool place.

23 itellu3times  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:26:35pm

Interesting.

Disturbing.

Reminiscent of something or other, overcrowding and closeups as technique.

24 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:26:56pm

re: #17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I would never think to do that.

Clever humans are cool.

I tried in photography class to capture a scene multiple times and erase people and vehicles. Pre PS days, in the dark room multiple exposures on paper and lots of burn and dodge.

Results were less than successful.

25 MacGregor  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:27:00pm

That is so cool. The tourists taking pictures is hysterical.

26 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:27:18pm

re: #21 DEZes

I hate it when that happens. ;)

Gotta be fast around here.

27 DEZes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:27:41pm

Well, I have enjoyed the time with you guys, but I must be on my way.
have a great one.

28 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:27:57pm

Keeping you guys awake?

29 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:28:03pm

that was way cool

30 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:28:04pm

re: #27 DEZes

Well, I have enjoyed the time with you guys, but I must be on my way.
have a great one.

Take care!

31 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:28:36pm

This reminds me I was photographed today by the google street view van. I should have done something interesting. I wonder how long it will take for me to show up.

32 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:28:46pm

re: #19 Catttt

I love that - especially the smoking one and the manila envelope one.

Men - scroll down to the short dresses and heels one. :D

And notice - typical American crowd compilation each time - melting pot.

Yeah, the manila envelope one is really cool. I also like the one with everyone glancing out the side of their eyes.

33 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:28:52pm

re: #8 Dr. Shalit

Charles -

“Fauxtography or Art?” The viewer will have to make the call.

-S-

We can come up with a new catagory. Faurt.

34 NonNativeTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:29:37pm

re: #19 Catttt

I love the smoking one, reminds me of the good ole days

35 alegrias  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:29:45pm

These pictures give me September 11 flashbacks.

I can never forget.

36 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:30:03pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

This reminds me I was photographed today by the google street view van. I should have done something interesting. I wonder how long it will take for me to show up.

Wow. That’s pretty cool. My neighbors across the street were photographed in their front yard pruning the bushes but, alas, I was not outside at the right time.

37 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:30:20pm

re: #33 CyanSnowHawk

We can come up with a new catagory. Faurt.

fauxto

38 brookly red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:30:35pm

re: #25 MacGregor

That is so cool. The tourists taking pictures is hysterical.

I am familiar with most of the locations & will look at them differently now except for that one… that is how I DO see tourists in times Sq.

39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:30:38pm

re: #35 alegrias

Make sure you don’t.

40 timbre  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:32:25pm

If every dog pees on the hydrant, to whom does it belong?

41 brookly red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:32:56pm

re: #40 timbre

If every dog pees on the hydrant, to whom does it belong?

the city

42 Gang of One  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:34:20pm

Not long ago, Charles featured some photos that were taken with some kind of settings or settings the mimicked the human eye’s perception, taking the photo at different exposures, etc. These have that quality of lighting …

43 livefreeor die  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:34:25pm

re: #41 brookly red

the city

But-sputter-that’s insensitive to the dogs’ culture!
/

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:34:52pm

There is not a single shot of overtly happy people? Laughing? Smiling?

None?

Makes me think of this line from “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”

“On second thought, let’s not go to Camelot….”

45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:35:30pm

re: #40 timbre

The last dog?

See y’all tomorrow.

46 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:35:46pm

Is this a drinking thread yet?

47 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:36:05pm

HA! CHARLES JOHNSON WAS ONCE AGAIN TAKEN IN BY FAUXTOGRAPHY!

-R. Spencer

/

48 alegrias  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:36:05pm

re: #39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Make sure you don’t.

* * * **
I won’t ever forget 9/11 or the way New York looked that day.

Just today I learned something today about Barbara Olson, a brave woman on board the plane that hit the Pentagon, who called her husband, Justice Dept. attorney Ted Olson, to alert him and to say goodbye.

Ms. Olson was on that 9/11 plane because she had delayed a trip to be home for her husband’s birthday.

I am campaigning for a woman candidate here in Virginia who arranged Ms. Olson’s Catholic funeral.

49 brookly red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:36:12pm

re: #43 livefreeor die

But-sputter-that’s insensitive to the dogs’ culture!
/

dog’s can’t sue :)

50 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:36:47pm

re: #36 Sleepyone

I was pulling weeds. I should have started dancing.

51 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:37:42pm

re: #35 alegrias

These pictures give me September 11 flashbacks.

I can never forget.

I took so many digital photographs of lower Manhattan and midtown in the days following 9/11 (I lived on the Lower East Side at the time) and unfortunately my daughter accidentally erased my external hard drive (where the photos were stored) and they are lost. I had tons of photos of the event itself, the aftermath, walking around the neighborhood seeing crying people on the street. Photos of a completely empty lower Broadway and West Broadway below Houston. Photos of the hundreds of missing flyers that were plastered everywhere and images of memorials laid at the door of multiple firehouses. All lost.

I did keep the external hard drive and never used it again in the event I can find some place to retrieve the data. I tried everything I could think of on my own but couldn’t access it.

52 livefreeor die  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:37:48pm

re: #49 brookly red

dog’s can’t sue :)

yet. The way things are going give it time.

53 2by2  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:37:59pm

Thanks for that Charles.

54 timbre  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:38:06pm

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

On third thought, let’s strut over to the Ministry of Silly Walks.

55 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:39:15pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

I was pulling weeds. I should have started dancing.

I think I would have to flash the “moon” or something juvenile.

56 gegenkritik  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:39:25pm

Anyone saw Ju-on? This boy came to my mind when looking at the picture above.

57 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:40:48pm

The “Airplanes Over the Beach” one is hysterical…

58 MacGregor  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:41:14pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

This reminds me I was photographed today by the google street view van. I should have done something interesting. I wonder how long it will take for me to show up.

I would have whipped it out and started dancing. The Ipod of course.

59 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:42:03pm

re: #51 Sleepyone

I took so many digital photographs of lower Manhattan and midtown in the days following 9/11 (I lived on the Lower East Side at the time) and unfortunately my daughter accidentally erased my external hard drive (where the photos were stored) and they are lost. I had tons of photos of the event itself, the aftermath, walking around the neighborhood seeing crying people on the street. Photos of a completely empty lower Broadway and West Broadway below Houston. Photos of the hundreds of missing flyers that were plastered everywhere and images of memorials laid at the door of multiple firehouses. All lost.

I did keep the external hard drive and never used it again in the event I can find some place to retrieve the data. I tried everything I could think of on my own but couldn’t access it.

Unless it was securely erased, there are places that can recover quite a bit, if not all, but we’re talking a lot of money.
If it was just the directory info, it is easier, but pictures are hard to recover, because there is no easy way to tell which file block goes with which picture and where.

60 brookly red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:42:18pm

re: #46 lincolntf

Is this a drinking thread yet?

hmmmm, guess it is time to hit the bars… good night all.

61 lawhawk  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:42:33pm

I’m tired.

62 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:42:55pm

Reposted from last thread:

OT.

Earth Day doom-and-gloom got you down? Think the predictions are iron-clad? Take a look at what the “experts” were saying 39 years ago.

My absolute favorite: Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

Don’t worry, be happy, and watch out for meteors! And stay away from the purple acid…

[Link courtesy of Medaura’s rockin’ husband.]

63 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:43:02pm

Exercise them funny bones…….
Baracknophobia

Only now with the advent of Potato Day has tyranny come to our shores.

C’mon, it’s pretty funny. If you make it to the end there are some sage words of advice.

64 livefreeor die  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:43:23pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

This reminds me I was photographed today by the google street view van. I should have done something interesting. I wonder how long it will take for me to show up.

I wonder how they edit what they photograph. Do they screen everything first or do they put it up and hope they don’t end up having pictures of prostitutes and drug deals show up.

65 Catttt  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:43:39pm

re: #34 NonNativeTexan

I love the smoking one, reminds me of the good ole days

Standing outside smoking is interesting. You meet people, hear good gossip and find out what’s going on outside your own little circle, and get a kind of sense of camaraderie and also a slight hint of anarchy by insisting on smoking, dammit.

66 alegrias  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:43:48pm

Good night all. Stay healthy.

67 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:44:16pm

I can’t get up and grab the remote because of a rather endearing lap cat that I’m loath to disturb.
So, I’m being subjected to the local anchoress describing (I kid you not) how the international recession is effecting Elton John.

I see the world, and I chortle.

68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:44:47pm

re: #65 Catttt

I hope I can continue to quit.

69 livefreeor die  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:44:59pm

re: #67 lincolntf

I can’t get up and grab the remote because of a rather endearing lap cat that I’m loath to disturb.
So, I’m being subjected to the local anchoress describing (I kid you not) how the international recession is effecting Elton John.

I see the world, and I chortle.

Was there some particular reason they chose Elton John?

70 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:45:12pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

This reminds me I was photographed today by the google street view van. I should have done something interesting. I wonder how long it will take for me to show up.

How did you know it was the google street view van?

71 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:45:30pm

re: #64 livefreeor die

I wonder how they edit what they photograph. Do they screen everything first or do they put it up and hope they don’t end up having pictures of prostitutes and drug deals show up.


They don’t screen it at all, they just put it up. They catch all kinds of stuff, google van hits deer, google van hits bridge, a lot of it is pretty funny.

72 The Other Les  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:45:33pm

Diplomacy as usual.

Image: LIM_VaultOfDoom_800.jpg

73 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:47:20pm

re: #70 reine.de.tout

How did you know it was the google street view van?

It might have been Obama’s DHS security probe but it had a big “thing” on top of it with 4 cameras. Driving maybe 20 mph. I assumed google van but it might be something else.

74 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:47:23pm

re: #69 livefreeor die

I have no idea.
It was almost surreal. They went from a local house fire to “Elton John has lost half of his net worth” in the bat of an eye.
It’s possible that he’s playing somewhere around here, but I didn’t hear it mentioned.

75 livefreeor die  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:47:25pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

They don’t screen it at all, they just put it up. They catch all kinds of stuff, google van hits deer, google van hits bridge, a lot of it is pretty funny.

You could make a good scavenger hunt game out of that.
(Find a photo of an illegal activity, find a photo of someone dressed up as a mascot, etc.)

76 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:47:28pm

I love the discordant shadows in the pictures. In several of them you get some great shots with pretty good skew between the shadows.

77 Catttt  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:48:07pm

re: #67 lincolntf

I can’t get up and grab the remote because of a rather endearing lap cat that I’m loath to disturb.
So, I’m being subjected to the local anchoress describing (I kid you not) how the international recession is effecting Elton John.

I see the world, and I chortle.

My domestic short is currently cussing at me under her breath, because I disturbed her. She decided to sleep on my ankles and was cutting off my circulation (she’s huge).

78 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:49:11pm

re: #59 Kosh’s Shadow

Unless it was securely erased, there are places that can recover quite a bit, if not all, but we’re talking a lot of money.
If it was just the directory info, it is easier, but pictures are hard to recover, because there is no easy way to tell which file block goes with which picture and where.

Well, what she did was simply drag the external drive icon the trash and then select “empty” when prompted. At least that’s what I think happened. I wasn’t nearby when she did it. All I know is that when I tried to get into the external drive again it asked if I wanted to reformat since it wasn’t recognized. I never reformated but simply disconnected everything and hoped someday that I could access it.

79 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:49:57pm

There’s an Orthodox Jew in the background. Heh.

For some reason I got a kick out of the picture with mainly big guys wearing heavy jackets. I see the theme is “people looking up”, but I’d like to see some of his images based on class… City workers, fire, PD, blue collar guys, rich women with dogs, things like that… It seems like you could have endless fun with this approach.

If it’s based on random images, though, maybe themes present themselves.

80 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:51:32pm

re: #67 lincolntf

Was it one of Elton John’s houses that burned down?

81 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:51:34pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

They don’t screen it at all, they just put it up. They catch all kinds of stuff, google van hits deer, google van hits bridge, a lot of it is pretty funny.

There are lots of websites that post funny, weird, and even (gasp) nude images captured by Google.

82 livefreeor die  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:51:44pm

re: #74 lincolntf

I have no idea.
It was almost surreal. They went from a local house fire to “Elton John has lost half of his net worth” in the bat of an eye.
It’s possible that he’s playing somewhere around here, but I didn’t hear it mentioned.

Looks like he needs a bail out.

83 MacGregor  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:54:21pm

re: #38 brookly red

… that is how I DO see tourists in times Sq.

Lol, last time I was there around the holidays it was a madhouse.

84 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:54:33pm

re: #80 Fenway_Nation

Good call.
Maybe he does have a house around here. I guess I’ll have to wait until the bimbette comes back and expands on the story.

85 rain of lead  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:54:56pm

I dunno….
I started looking at the pics and after the 3rd one the twilight zone
theme song started going through my head :0

86 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:55:13pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

They don’t screen it at all, they just put it up. They catch all kinds of stuff, google van hits deer, google van hits bridge, a lot of it is pretty funny.

If they don’t screen things, I’ve often wondered how they are able to blur the faces of people? I had assumed someone had to got through the images to apply the blur. Maybe there is a program that recognizes human faces and blurs them?

87 timbre  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:55:34pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

I’m assuming everyone has seen “The Googling”

88 BlueCanuck  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:55:55pm

Now that is nice art.

89 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:56:06pm

re: #84 lincolntf

How could that be worth the wait if nobody gives a shit?

;P

90 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:56:20pm

re: #78 Sleepyone

Well, what she did was simply drag the external drive icon the trash and then select “empty” when prompted. At least that’s what I think happened. I wasn’t nearby when she did it. All I know is that when I tried to get into the external drive again it asked if I wanted to reformat since it wasn’t recognized. I never reformated but simply disconnected everything and hoped someday that I could access it.

She had to do more for it to ask to be reformatted. If it was just dragged to the trash, that would delete everything on it.
I assume this is a PC, because that ejects an external drive on a Mac. (BTW, my Mac broke again one day after it was fixed. )
This might be as simple as the volume data being lost, but the rest of the data (including directory structure) is intact, or the directory data could have been erased. It is possible more damage was done, but my guess is the partition was deleted, which only really deletes the partition from the partition table. Do NOT reformat it; I think the data might be recoverable by rebuilding the partition table.
There are people who can do this. Make sure they make an image of the disk first; a block-by-block copy that preserves everything on the original. Then, they can work on the copy.
It probably isn’t ridiculously expensive to diagnose this; they could tell you if it is an easy recovery or a hard one, but my guess tends towards the easy side.

91 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:56:37pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

It might have been Obama’s DHS security probe but it had a big “thing” on top of it with 4 cameras. Driving maybe 20 mph. I assumed google van but it might be something else.

Villagers attack Google view van with torches and pitchforks

92 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:57:23pm

re: #78 Sleepyone

Well, what she did was simply drag the external drive icon the trash and then select “empty” when prompted. At least that’s what I think happened. I wasn’t nearby when she did it. All I know is that when I tried to get into the external drive again it asked if I wanted to reformat since it wasn’t recognized. I never reformated but simply disconnected everything and hoped someday that I could access it.

I forgot to add that it was a Mac and not a PC. I don’t know if that matters or not with respect to retrieving the data.

93 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:57:29pm

re: #89 Fenway_Nation

I have no choice. The cat owns the lap, and the lap dictates my movement. It’s a pickle, I tell ya’, a real pickle…

94 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:57:41pm

re: #81 Sleepyone

There are lots of websites that post funny, weird, and even (gasp) nude images captured by Google.

My house is in Google street view, but if you search by address, you won’t find it; Google thinks it is 1/2 mile or so further north.
They did blur out the number on my car’s license plate.

95 SummerSong  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:00:57pm

I’m wishing the cab hoods had been opened…they would have been yawning, too.

96 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:02:12pm

Wow! I really enjoyed the artists other pictures too! The planes in the sky over the beach, was funny.

97 livefreeor die  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:02:13pm

I just looked up our first house that the hubby and I painted 17 years ago. From the looks of it, it still hasn’t been repainted. I loved that house. I knew the new owners wouldn’t take care of it.

98 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:03:22pm

re: #90 Kosh’s Shadow

She had to do more for it to ask to be reformatted. If it was just dragged to the trash, that would delete everything on it.
I assume this is a PC, because that ejects an external drive on a Mac. (BTW, my Mac broke again one day after it was fixed. )
This might be as simple as the volume data being lost, but the rest of the data (including directory structure) is intact, or the directory data could have been erased. It is possible more damage was done, but my guess is the partition was deleted, which only really deletes the partition from the partition table. Do NOT reformat it; I think the data might be recoverable by rebuilding the partition table.
There are people who can do this. Make sure they make an image of the disk first; a block-by-block copy that preserves everything on the original. Then, they can work on the copy.
It probably isn’t ridiculously expensive to diagnose this; they could tell you if it is an easy recovery or a hard one, but my guess tends towards the easy side.

Great info Kosh’s Shadow. Thanks.

It was a Mac. And you’re right about ejecting a drive when dragging to the trash. That is what happens when I drag my current external drive icon the trash. It just ejects.

I really do not know what she did. I got on my computer after she had used it and noticed my external hard drive icon was not on the desktop. The drive was turned on and connected so I restarted the computer but when I tried to access the external I got the message that it was not formatted and “would you like to format” type of question. I may be missing a few details since it was a while ago.

99 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:04:02pm

re: #97 livefreeor die

I just looked up our first house that the hubby and I painted 17 years ago. From the looks of it, it still hasn’t been repainted. I loved that house. I knew the new owners wouldn’t take care of it.

Maybe they loved the color!

100 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:04:14pm

re: #92 Sleepyone

I forgot to add that it was a Mac and not a PC. I don’t know if that matters or not with respect to retrieving the data.

OK. Again, I think this only erased the partition from the partition table, and didn’t erase the data.
(A disk has a table that tells where each partion is and how big it is. Then somewhere, is information on each partition. I think this just erased the entry in the partition table, but that’s it.

You could start with the “genius bar” of your local Apple store, actually.
Get them to image the drive first, if they have the right software.
You never know; they could make it worse like my Macbook pro that they had last week, and replaced the optical drive and some other parts, and then, the next day, it died (no light on the screen; no display on an external monitor; but it does make some noises indicating it is doing something)
(I’m going to keep bringing this up because that machine is a lemon. Maybe they’ll replace it, after replacing the optical drive twice, the battery once, the keybard once, and the screen once, and whatever is wrong with it now)

101 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:05:04pm

I bet the people who drive the Google van get mooned about 100 times a day.

102 timbre  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:06:30pm

re: #101 Mich-again

I bet the people who drive the Google van get mooned about 100 times a day.

proctogoogology…

103 livefreeor die  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:06:51pm

re: #99 Sleepyone

Maybe they loved the color!

I guess they’re going for that shabby chic thing! I hope they like the color underneath the paint we put on because they’re going to be looking at that soon from the looks of it.

104 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:07:40pm

re: #78 Sleepyone

Watch for Hoosier Hoops, he might be able to help! He’s generous that way.

105 livefreeor die  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:07:41pm

re: #101 Mich-again

I bet the people who drive the Google van get mooned about 100 times a day.

Instead of “Where’s Waldo”, it’s “Where’s Waldo’s tush”

106 SummerSong  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:07:49pm

Google captured a street view of my house and our pool guy is in the pic. I’ve actually had a few friends call and say, “what happened to Mr. SummerSong…he looks so different?”. Add 30 lbs, shrink 6 inches and change nationalities…Yeah, it’s not him, Sherlock.

107 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:10:08pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

Exercise them funny bones…….
Baracknophobia

C’mon, it’s pretty funny. If you make it to the end there are some sage words of advice.

Hilarious, and mega-upding-worthy.

“See, when the guys you disagree with win an election, they’re pretty likely to do things you disagree with.”

Chortle.

108 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:11:27pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

It might have been Obama’s DHS security probe but it had a big “thing” on top of it with 4 cameras. Driving maybe 20 mph. I assumed google van but it might be something else.

I thought perhaps it had some sort of logo on it.
No logo - I think I would go with it being Obama’s DHS security probe, as you said.
/

109 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:12:02pm

Interesting pics. Reminds me of Borges idea of accidental brotherhoods, eg the brotherhood of all those people who are at this moment picking their nose (you know who you are).

111 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:12:55pm

Now that some have mentioned tecchie stuff:

Today, my iPhone has suddenly developed an inability to recognize when I want the audio in regular “phone” mode…. that is, I don’t get any audio if I just hold it up to my ear. It thinks the earbud/microphone is plugged in, even though it’s not. It works fine on speakerphone or with a bluetooth headset. But just won’t work as a regular “phone” setup. I’ve switched it off and on… switched airplane mode off and on… resynched with my Mac. Nothing works.

Any thoughts?

112 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:13:02pm

re: #108 reine.de.tout

I thought perhaps it had some sort of logo on it.
No logo - I think I would go with it being Obama’s DHS security probe, as you said.
/

Oh, no. Not the probe!

113 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:13:05pm

re: #107 Cato the Elder

A lot of our more partisan Lizards are a little angry with me these days so I didn’t expect it to be a big hit. I don’t always agree with Stewart but he is very funny. I this case I think he’s spot on.

114 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:13:44pm

re: #100 Kosh’s Shadow

OK. Again, I think this only erased the partition from the partition table, and didn’t erase the data.
(A disk has a table that tells where each partion is and how big it is. Then somewhere, is information on each partition. I think this just erased the entry in the partition table, but that’s it.

You could start with the “genius bar” of your local Apple store, actually.
Get them to image the drive first, if they have the right software.
You never know; they could make it worse like my Macbook pro that they had last week, and replaced the optical drive and some other parts, and then, the next day, it died (no light on the screen; no display on an external monitor; but it does make some noises indicating it is doing something)
(I’m going to keep bringing this up because that machine is a lemon. Maybe they’ll replace it, after replacing the optical drive twice, the battery once, the keybard once, and the screen once, and whatever is wrong with it now)

Thanks K.S. We finally have an Apple store here in Maine so maybe I’ll take the drive in. I thought I could only take Macs to the Apple store and since the external drive is a third party product it never occurred to me to let Apple look at it. I really would love to get those photos back.

Incidentally, my daughter who accidentally erased the files was nearly 1 year old on 9/11 and there are dozens of photos of her immediately following 9/11 in her stroller at Union Square, Washington Square, SoHo, Lower East Side, Canal Street, in front of the “missing” fliers, firehouses, etc. I would think she would like to have those photos when she grows up.

115 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:14:12pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

Exercise them funny bones…….
Baracknophobia

C’mon, it’s pretty funny. If you make it to the end there are some sage words of advice.

LOL

116 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:14:12pm

re: #109 Jimmah

Interesting pics. Reminds me of Borges idea of accidental brotherhoods, eg the brotherhood of all those people who are at this moment picking their nose (you know who you are).

I’ve read a decent amount of Borges, but don’t recall that. Which story/essay?

117 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:14:57pm

re: #108 reine.de.tout

Here’s what they look like….
Google Earth Streetview Camera Car— Rare Pix

118 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:15:41pm

re: #111 Occasional Reader

Now that some have mentioned tecchie stuff:

Today, my iPhone has suddenly developed an inability to recognize when I want the audio in regular “phone” mode…. that is, I don’t get any audio if I just hold it up to my ear. It thinks the earbud/microphone is plugged in, even though it’s not. It works fine on speakerphone or with a bluetooth headset. But just won’t work as a regular “phone” setup. I’ve switched it off and on… switched airplane mode off and on… resynched with my Mac. Nothing works.

Any thoughts?

Did you just switch it on and off, or did you try a reset?

It’s perfectly safe to do one. Hold down both the on-off and home buttons for six seconds or until the Apple logo appears. Ignore the “slide to turn off” or whatever it says message and just wait for the Apple.

The phone will reset (takes a little while) and your problem might disappear. I was having problems with screen sensitivity and that fixed it.

Do it now and tell me what happens.

119 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:16:21pm

re: #104 Floral Giraffe

Watch for Hoosier Hoops, he might be able to help! He’s generous that way.

Thanks for the tip Floral Giraffe. I’ll keep an eye our for HH.

120 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:17:13pm

re: #114 Sleepyone

Thanks K.S. We finally have an Apple store here in Maine so maybe I’ll take the drive in. I thought I could only take Macs to the Apple store and since the external drive is a third party product it never occurred to me to let Apple look at it. I really would love to get those photos back.

Incidentally, my daughter who accidentally erased the files was nearly 1 year old on 9/11 and there are dozens of photos of her immediately following 9/11 in her stroller at Union Square, Washington Square, SoHo, Lower East Side, Canal Street, in front of the “missing” fliers, firehouses, etc. I would think she would like to have those photos when she grows up.

I’ve seen people with external drives. If they can’t do it, they might know someplace that can.
As for mine, good thing it is only 10 minutes from work, and I can get lunch when I bring it.

121 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:17:33pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Proof that Obama’s DHS got to work even before the election.

(Back in the 80s when I studied in the UK, I was SURE my British friends were shitting me when they told me about the BBC vans that drive around with detection equipment to check who’s “illegally” watching t.v. (that is, without paying the BBC licensing fee); but they really exist!)

122 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:17:34pm

re: #116 Occasional Reader

I’ve read a decent amount of Borges, but don’t recall that. Which story/essay?

Can’t remember. My g/f got me a huge book that’s got practically everything he wrote in it. Might be one of his earlier stories. (The nose picking bit was just my example btw - don’t bother with any searches on Borges+nose picking)

123 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:18:24pm

re: #108 reine.de.tout

I’m thinking I’m going to add my new indoor aeroponics to the gardening thingy I’m witting up for the next cookbook. I was just going to post it all here in the comments one day but I’ll hold off and maybe it will entice a few extra people to buy the book. Maybe I’ll post some pics to show the results but I’ll leave the methods as a cookbook exclusive if you decide to include the chapter.

124 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:18:40pm

re: #118 Cato the Elder

Did you just switch it on and off, or did you try a reset?

It’s perfectly safe to do one. Hold down both the on-off and home buttons for six seconds or until the Apple logo appears. Ignore the “slide to turn off” or whatever it says message and just wait for the Apple.

The phone will reset (takes a little while) and your problem might disappear. I was having problems with screen sensitivity and that fixed it.

Do it now and tell me what happens.

When I was at the store they were telling a woman to do that for something; I think the display was off completely. It fixed it. She wished she had known about this because it was a 20 minute drive.

125 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19:03pm

re: #118 Cato the Elder

Thanks. Stand by…

126 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19:25pm

re: #121 Occasional Reader

I’m surprised the Brits get so pissed off at the google vans. They have cameras all over the damn country. What’s a few more?

127 MacGregor  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19:35pm

re: #113 Killgore Trout

A lot of our more partisan Lizards are a little angry with me these days so I didn’t expect it to be a big hit. I don’t always agree with Stewart but he is very funny. I this case I think he’s spot on.

I think there are lots of zealous partisans here, you and me included. I know you’re one of the good guys and we share a few things in common.

128 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19:46pm

I was out all day and didn’t get to veg out on the couch watching the NFL draft so I’m just reading about it now.. I see my Lions used their first pick on the guy who had “Ford” in his name. Not surprised there. I can already see the marketing campaign, something about StafFORD FIELD.

129 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19:47pm

You’re running more photoshop, Charles? ;)

130 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:20:00pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

It might have been Obama’s DHS security probe but it had a big “thing” on top of it with 4 cameras. Driving maybe 20 mph. I assumed google van but it might be something else.

Yeah, those are handheld.

131 timbre  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:20:26pm

re: #113 Killgore Trout

“mandatory organ donatio”….ooops!

132 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:20:38pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Here’s what they look like….
Google Earth Streetview Camera Car— Rare Pix


[Video]

OK!
My house has a “street view”, although they’re off a little on the address.
But I can find it.
From the vehicles that are in the driveway, and the fact that my tree hasn’t yet been knocked down, I know they came sometime between May 08 and when Gustave hit us in Sept 08. But I don’t recall ever seeing the vehicle.

133 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:21:10pm

re: #110 HelloDare

“If you read that Miss California is murdered you will know it was me”

The plan to shift the outrage off the beauty queen and on to some ugly white git is progressing as planned.

//

134 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:21:23pm

re: #116 Occasional Reader

I’ve read a decent amount of Borges, but don’t recall that. Which story/essay?

I have it now - it’s a story called “the Congress”.

135 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:21:38pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

I’m thinking I’m going to add my new indoor aeroponics to the gardening thingy I’m witting up for the next cookbook. I was just going to post it all here in the comments one day but I’ll hold off and maybe it will entice a few extra people to buy the book. Maybe I’ll post some pics to show the results but I’ll leave the methods as a cookbook exclusive if you decide to include the chapter.

Yes, we’re going to have a “gardening” chapter.
Please let it be a cookbook “exclusive”, at least until a few copies have sold!

136 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:21:46pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

I’m thinking I’m going to add my new indoor aeroponics to the gardening thingy I’m witting up for the next cookbook. I was just going to post it all here in the comments one day but I’ll hold off and maybe it will entice a few extra people to buy the book. Maybe I’ll post some pics to show the results but I’ll leave the methods as a cookbook exclusive if you decide to include the chapter.

Okay. I’ve seen some comments here and there over the past few months about a cookbook. Is there really a published cookbook of recipes from LGFers? Forgive my ignorance on this subject but my curiosity is piqued.

137 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:22:36pm

re: #128 Mich-again

I was out all day and didn’t get to veg out on the couch watching the NFL draft so I’m just reading about it now.. I see my Lions used their first pick on the guy who had “Ford” in his name. Not surprised there. I can already see the marketing campaign, something about StafFORD FIELD.

growing up in MI I can sympathize with Lions fans…I hope he does well for all the money he will cost the team…great fans and a great field

138 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:22:48pm

Not entirely OT, plus I’m too antsy to wait for the open thread:

I got a new scanner, and so have started posting again to my blog devoted to vintage book illustrations. Only except the most recent ones are postcards.

139 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:23:08pm

re: #136 Sleepyone

Okay. I’ve seen some comments here and there over the past few months about a cookbook. Is there really a published cookbook of recipes from LGFers? Forgive my ignorance on this subject but my curiosity is piqued.

Click my nic to purchase Volume 1 (there’s a link at the blog)

And read the blog if you want to contribute to Vol 2!
Easy as pie.

140 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:23:58pm

re: #118 Cato the Elder

No joy. I repeat, no joy.

141 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:24:02pm

re: #129 Sharmuta

You’re running more photoshop, Charles? ;)

hee-hee.
that’s sort of what I thought, too.

142 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:24:20pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

I’m surprised the Brits get so pissed off at the google vans. They have cameras all over the damn country. What’s a few more?

I can tell you - it’s a bit of small-minded ‘territorialism’ plus the fact that they just like something to bitch about. And - it’s seen as “American”.

143 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:24:21pm

re: #139 reine.de.tout

Click my nic to purchase Volume 1 (there’s a link at the blog)

And read the blog if you want to contribute to Vol 2!
Easy as pie.

DO WHAT SHE SAYS, OR I WILL HAVE TO YELL MORE!

144 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:24:43pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

I’m surprised the Brits get so pissed off at the google vans. They have cameras all over the damn country. What’s a few more?

That’s true. I recently designed the cover of a book by a British author about his experience with surveillance cameras. Drudge always has something about the eye in the sky in England (and other places).

145 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:24:58pm

re: #143 Sharmuta

DO WHAT SHE SAYS, OR I WILL HAVE TO YELL MORE!

Do what she says, or the dog dies!

146 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:25:14pm

re: #143 Sharmuta
OWWWWW! STOP IT! I HAVE A HEADACHE!

147 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:25:27pm

re: #107 Cato the Elder

Sadly, the possibility exists that disagreeing with “The Winner” will become utterly forbidden.
Principles matter, Parties and tit-for-tat politics don’t.
Just once I’d like to hear a Leftist actually defend Leftism without curling up in the corner and crying “Nazi”.
Anyone who supports Obama has to (intellectually, if not publicly) understand that for every “responsibility” Barry claims the Gov’t will take on, a right will be lost.
That’s the major vein of dishonesty that runs through all Leftists, actually. They say that they’ll take the responsibility for something (health care, global warming/cooling, education, etc.) and never, ever point out the inextricable link between rights and responsibilities.
Screw ‘em all. Liberals are a fact of life, just like small pox or shark attacks. Gotta deal with ‘em even if you don’t want to, and it will probably do no good in the long run.

148 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:26:03pm

I hate it when my iPhone misbehaves. It feels like… a personal betrayal.

My precioussss

149 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:26:07pm

re: #137 albusteve

The odds are in the Lions’ favor that their record will improve next season.

150 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:26:30pm

re: #139 reine.de.tout

Click my nic to purchase Volume 1 (there’s a link at the blog)

And read the blog if you want to contribute to Vol 2!
Easy as pie.

Thanks for the info. I’ll click on our nic but in the meantime, who is the publisher? I only ask since I’ve been in publishing for about 18 years and I’m curious.

151 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:26:59pm

re: #143 Sharmuta

DO WHAT SHE SAYS, OR I WILL HAVE TO YELL MORE!

LOUDER, SHARM, LOUDER!

152 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:27:29pm

re: #150 Sleepyone

Thanks for the info. I’ll click on our nic but in the meantime, who is the publisher? I only ask since I’ve been in publishing for about 18 years and I’m curious.

I guess it’s considered to be self-published - it’s thru lulu.com
The books are not printed until they are ordered.

153 timbre  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:27:37pm

re: #128 Mich-again

re: #137 albusteve

Every hot new quarterback steps to the line and thinks six things: left tackle, left guard, center, right guard, right tackle, tight end. Check.

154 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:27:48pm

Sheesh, a passing thunderstorm, and suddenly everyone’s too lazy to go out and play tonight. What wimps I have as friends. Wife is out of town. iPhone betraying me. So I have LGF, and good beer.

155 NY Nana  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:27:59pm

re: #121 Occasional Reader

Yes, they do! And here is proof. ;)

156 BlueCanuck  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:28:07pm

re: #148 Occasional Reader

I see everything is starting to come down to the MS level.

/*ducks and covers runs for the door*……..

157 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:28:08pm

re: #147 lincolntf

Sadly, the possibility exists that disagreeing with “The Winner” will become utterly forbidden.

Piffle. If that happens, I’ll eat a faux-tricorne hat fresh off of a Ron Paul supporter’s sweaty, unwashed brow.

158 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:28:25pm

re: #147 lincolntf
There was a panel of WSJ guys on FNC this evening. The law of unintended consequences came up. The frothing left want to investigate the ‘torture’ crap. Well, every donk on the intel and military committees was briefed in and they all signed off on it. I really hope this jumps up and grabs the ones admin by the throat.

159 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:28:38pm

re: #154 Occasional Reader

So I have LGF, and good beer.

You’re all set then.

160 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:28:54pm

re: #138 The Sanity Inspector
Cool stuff.

161 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:29:11pm

re: #154 Occasional Reader

Sheesh, a passing thunderstorm, and suddenly everyone’s too lazy to go out and play tonight. What wimps I have as friends. Wife is out of town. iPhone betraying me. So I have LGF, and good beer.

And life is good.

162 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:29:29pm

re: #154 Occasional Reader

Sheesh, a passing thunderstorm, and suddenly everyone’s too lazy to go out and play tonight. What wimps I have as friends. Wife is out of town. iPhone betraying me. So I have LGF, and good beer.

I see how you are. We’re not good enough for you, so you have to go get friends in the real world. Talk about betrayal. *sniff*

163 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:30:37pm

re: #149 Mich-again

The odds are in the Lions’ favor that their record will improve next season.

Dunno about that; how’s their ‘chartered airplane maintenance budget’ holding up? Do they have trained chefs? Did they pay the security company’s bill?

164 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:30:43pm

re: #149 Mich-again

The odds are in the Lions’ favor that their record will improve next season.

It’s hard not to improve on 0 and 16, but it can be done.

165 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:31:21pm

re: #162 Sharmuta

I see how you are. We’re not good enough for you, so you have to go get friends in the real world. Talk about betrayal. *sniff*

You guys are okay, I guess… but you’re no iPhone, I’ll tell you that much.

(clutching iPhone closer to booze-um)

166 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:31:28pm

re: #164 Honorary Yooper

It’s hard not to improve on 0 and 16, but it can be done.

Fine. Let’s see ‘em go 0 and 17. In the same season. In NFL football.

/

167 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:31:42pm

re: #152 reine.de.tout

I guess it’s considered to be self-published - it’s thru lulu.com
The books are not printed until they are ordered.


I see. So you’re doing print-on-demand. Is it working out pretty well?

I have some major publishing clients that have been shifting some output to P.O.D. The only issue I have from a designer’s point of view is that the digital prints of the covers never match my original Pantone or process color selections.

And P.S. do you have a cover design? If not, I just may be interested in suppling something for you pro bono.

168 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:32:04pm

re: #138 The Sanity Inspector

Not entirely OT, plus I’m too antsy to wait for the open thread:

I got a new scanner, and so have started posting again to my blog devoted to vintage book illustrations. Only except the most recent ones are postcards.

Wow!
I didn’t know there was an interest in those things.
I’ll need to check my old books.

169 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:32:13pm

re: #164 Honorary Yooper

It’s hard not to improve on 0 and 16, but it can be done.

There is no empirical evidence to support your theory.

170 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:32:49pm

re: #166 OldLineTexan

Fine. Let’s see ‘em go 0 and 17. In the same season. In NFL football.
/

Forget the slash! Oh-and-seventeen baby!

171 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:32:52pm

re: #169 Mich-again

There is no empirical evidence to support your theory.

It’s the Lions. Anything remarkably crappy can and will happen.
Go Wings!

172 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:33:25pm

Bull Market….

173 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:33:41pm

re: #140 Occasional Reader

No joy. I repeat, no joy.

Damn.

How old is your phone? Try calling AppleCare:[no phone numbers allowed]. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with those guys. They were on the phone with me for an hour and a half once to solve an intractable problem involving FileVault (hint: if you run a Mac computer, and you’re not a CIA agent, NEVER turn on FileVault) and Leopard.

If it’s within the one-year warranty and needs replacing, they’ll do it. A regular sync before you send it back (or take it to the Apple Store) and another when you get the new phone and you’re done.

But they may have a trick or two they can tell you about on the phone.

174 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:33:45pm

Well of course everyone’s talking about the Lions (this late in the thread and O.R.’s loneliness included) but how ‘bout them GIANTS?!?!

175 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:34:22pm

re: #157 Cato the Elder

It’s all baby steps. I believe that certain speech is already de facto illegal.
Not counting porn, fire in a theater, threats, all that stuff.
Even that chick in the Miss USA pageant felt the sting of the PC whip. What becomes “normal” in society will eventually become law.

176 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:34:37pm

re: #174 realwest

Well of course everyone’s talking about the Lions (this late in the thread and O.R.’s loneliness included) but how ‘bout them GIANTS?!?!

sling and a rock per giant

177 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:34:54pm

re: #169 Mich-again

There is no empirical evidence to support your theory.

Admittedly it’d be a little surreal, but suppose their plane pulled a Marshall and went down in flames?

/NTTAWWT
//Oh wait…

178 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:35:14pm

re: #174 realwest

Well of course everyone’s talking about the Lions (this late in the thread and O.R.’s loneliness included) but how ‘bout them GIANTS?!?!

All I can say to that is “how about them Red Sox!”

179 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:35:55pm

re: #174 realwest

Well of course everyone’s talking about the Lions (this late in the thread and O.R.’s loneliness included) but how ‘bout them GIANTS?!?!

I hate them…with a passion

180 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:36:28pm

re: #178 Sleepyone
I think the yanks used 7 pitchers.

181 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:36:28pm

re: #176 OldLineTexan
Sigh. We pick up a big Wide Receiver, a really fine OL, and a remarkable pick at LEFT OT and you want to talk about slings and rocks!
Well, coulda been worse, coulda been slings and arrows I reckon!

182 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:36:53pm

re: #167 Sleepyone

I see. So you’re doing print-on-demand. Is it working out pretty well?

I have some major publishing clients that have been shifting some output to P.O.D. The only issue I have from a designer’s point of view is that the digital prints of the covers never match my original Pantone or process color selections.

And P.S. do you have a cover design? If not, I just may be interested in suppling something for you pro bono.

Sleepyone - the print-on-demand seems to be working well.
There were a couple of errors in the first few books printed, and so once they were pointed out, we corrected them. I mean, the entire effort was amateur volunteers, and we learned a lot during the process, I believe. I happen to be very happy with my collectible error copy.

You need to check it out. Here is an image of the cover, which was produced by Jaunte. The back cover was produced by Flak Music. The book cover is very very nice.
The inside pages are just OK - partly due to our amateur standing, and partly due to the quality not being what one would get with a regular book. But it’s acceptable.

183 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:36:54pm

re: #178 Sleepyone

They looked like shit and the Yankees still couldn’t beat ‘em….

184 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:37:02pm

re: #173 Cato the Elder

How old is your phone?

1st Gen iPhone, purchased August 2007. I think it’s off warranty now. Bleah.

185 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:37:27pm

re: #179 albusteve
Patriots or Jets fan?

186 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:37:29pm

re: #178 Sleepyone

All I can say to that is “how about them Red Sox!”

If you wash the Red Sox with the White Sox … do you get the SF Giants?

187 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:37:39pm

re: #181 realwest

Sigh. We pick up a big Wide Receiver, a really fine OL, and a remarkable pick at LEFT OT and you want to talk about slings and rocks!
Well, coulda been worse, coulda been slings and arrows I reckon!

does your new wideout understand the safety?

188 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:37:46pm

re: #183 Fenway_Nation

They looked like shit and the Yankees still couldn’t beat ‘em….

At least they won!

189 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:38:02pm

re: #181 realwest

Sigh. We pick up a big Wide Receiver, a really fine OL, and a remarkable pick at LEFT OT and you want to talk about slings and rocks!
Well, coulda been worse, coulda been slings and arrows I reckon!

the outrageous fortune is always the worst

190 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:38:03pm

re: #180 pingjockey

I think the yanks used 7 pitchers.

Was it really seven?

191 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:38:28pm

re: #187 albusteve

does your new wideout understand the safety?

he can’t even load the magazine

192 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:38:30pm

re: #185 realwest

Patriots or Jets fan?

Cowboys…

193 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:38:43pm

re: #149 Mich-again

The odds are in the Lions’ favor that their record will improve next season.

As long as they lose both of the their games against the Bears, I do hope they improve. Of course, the Bears should win the NFC North this year. With our new quarterback, our offense is better than its been in the last twenty years.

194 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:38:58pm

re: #186 OldLineTexan

If you wash the Red Sox with the White Sox … do you get the SF Giants?

Naah, you’re thinking of the Mariners.
And the Giant’s fannies…

195 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:39:02pm

re: #175 lincolntf

It’s all baby steps. I believe that certain speech is already de facto illegal.
Not counting porn, fire in a theater, threats, all that stuff.
Even that chick in the Miss USA pageant felt the sting of the PC whip. What becomes “normal” in society will eventually become law.

This is America. Get a grip.

We’ve had bad - awful - administrations from both the right and the left. We’re still standing.

Full disclosure: I voted for Obama. Am I happy with everything? No. Do I regret not having the Geriatric Maverick and the Wolf Lady in DC? No.

Wait and see.

And by the way I don’t watch TV anymore, so I don’t know what the heck happened to the Miss USA chick…

196 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:39:15pm

re: #190 Sleepyone

Was it really seven?

three pitchers, four mugs (one frosted)

it was a hell of a fight … I stood like this … but not for long

197 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:39:29pm

re: #192 albusteve

Cowboys…

SUCK

/

198 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:39:54pm

re: #190 Sleepyone
6 for sure. And I think they may have had a change in the 8th which would make 7. Stat they showed, yanks bullpen, 2 games, 276 pitches. That is not good!

199 Racer X  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:40:00pm

Lakers, baby!

200 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:40:11pm

My favorite picture of the bunch was the one where everyone was walking their dog(s).

As for the idea of filming one location for an extended period of time and then photoshopping images that show a common theme, I have to say that is pure genius. I cracked up at all those pictures.

201 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:40:16pm

re: #196 OldLineTexan

three pitchers, four mugs (one frosted)

it was a hell of a fight … I stood like this … but not for long

But entertaining, no?

202 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:40:21pm

re: #192 albusteve
COWBOYS?!? GACK! How can you seriously root for…..nevermind.
Hey, who’s the head coach of the Cowboys now?

203 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:40:49pm

re: #184 Occasional Reader

1st Gen iPhone, purchased August 2007. I think it’s off warranty now. Bleah.

Well, dude, if they can’t fix it for a decent price, check out ATT’s refurbished offers on the 3G. Got mine (8 gig model) for 99 clams. So far nothing but unicorns and rainbows. ;^)

204 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:41:02pm

re: #194 PSGInfinity
Umm…dont’ look now Ms 9 Angels 4. If Ms win it’s a 4 game lead.

205 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:41:15pm

re: #198 pingjockey

6 for sure. And I think they may have had a change in the 8th which would make 7. Stat they showed, yanks bullpen, 2 games, 276 pitches. That is not good!

Yeah, there were a lot of pitches for sure.

206 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:41:23pm

re: #192 albusteve

Cowboys…

re: #197 OldLineTexan

SUCK!

Ahhh….
/Editing. It’s a wonderful thing…

207 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:41:44pm

re: #192 albusteve

Cowboys…

Patriots, Jets, and Giants.

I’d rather see the Packers win before that. :-P

208 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:41:59pm

re: #191 OldLineTexan

he can’t even load the magazine

Ahhh, guns.

[warm, fuzzy feeling]

209 timbre  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:42:11pm

When I was a kid in Texas, I had a rubber Pittsburgh Pirates baseball. Loved ‘em, for no other reason. I feel my childhood coming back. Go Pirates!

210 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:42:36pm

re: #204 pingjockey

Umm…dont’ look now Ms 9 Angels 4. If Ms win it’s a 4 game lead…

…in April.

211 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:42:37pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder
Hi Cato! Hey, have you always been a socialist or is that something new?

212 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:42:44pm

re: #203 Cato the Elder

Well, dude, if they can’t fix it for a decent price, check out ATT’s refurbished offers on the 3G. Got mine (8 gig model) for 99 clams. So far nothing but unicorns and rainbows. ;^)

I was actually thinking about that anyway, once I heard about the 99 bucks offer. Might be worth it, just for the GPS and 3G.

213 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:43:07pm

re: #207 Honorary Yooper

Patriots, Jets, and Giants.

I’d rather see the Packers win before that. :-P

Don’t say that around Chicago, the results can be less than nice. Some our Bears fans are quite rabid.

214 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:43:14pm

re: #202 realwest

COWBOYS?!? GACK! How can you seriously root for…..nevermind.
Hey, who’s the head coach of the Cowboys now?

re: #202 realwest

COWBOYS?!? GACK! How can you seriously root for…..nevermind.
Hey, who’s the head coach of the Cowboys now?

Wade in the Shade Phillips

215 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:43:24pm

re: #202 realwest

COWBOYS?!? GACK! How can you seriously root for…..nevermind.
Hey, who’s the head coach of the Cowboys now?

Tom Landry is the once and future coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

216 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:43:27pm

Well I am having all kinds of problems tonight. Just LGF is running slow for me, everything else is fine. I reloaded FF from scratch, still slow, windows firewall off, virus scanner off, still slow…

Anyone else experiencing 20 seconds to a minute after hitting new comments, or is it just me?

217 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:43:30pm

At the Dallas Cowboy’s draft combine they measure grouping at 50 meters.

218 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:44:04pm

Kragar and I were watching the Red Sox beat up on the Yankees at the meetup he set up for today. Saw the Sox overtake the Yanks in the 5th.

219 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:44:07pm

re: #212 Occasional Reader

I was actually thinking about that anyway, once I heard about the 99 bucks offer. Might be worth it, just for the GPS and 3G.

I’ve enjoyed my 3G, and I’m REALLY looking forward to firmware 3.03 (or so)!

220 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:44:10pm

re: #213 Dark_Falcon

Don’t say that around Chicago, the results can be less than nice. Some our Bears fans are quite rabid.

tell me about it…been there

221 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:44:24pm

re: #210 PSGInfinity
Yep. I don’t know when or if the Angels will get Vlad G. back. TORE a muscle, that will take a while to heal. Plus they had the tragedy of losing that young pitcher.

222 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:44:24pm

re: #213 Dark_Falcon

Don’t say that around Chicago, the results can be less than nice. Some our Bears fans are quite rabid.

Hey, as long as the Lions can beat both the Packers and the Bears, all is better in the world.

223 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:44:43pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder

Full disclosure: I voted for Obama.

Feeling any buyer’s remorse?

224 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:45:08pm

re: #214 albusteve
Wade in the Shade Phillips. Huh, well ya know, if he went on a diet, he would’t always be in the shade!
Just kidding - is he Bum Phillips son?

225 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:45:21pm

Full disclosure: I am almost entirely indifferent to the NFL.

226 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:45:44pm

re: #224 realwest

Wade in the Shade Phillips. Huh, well ya know, if he went on a diet, he would’t always be in the shade!
Just kidding - is he Bum Phillips son?

yes….but coaching does not seem to run in the family

227 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:45:49pm

re: #224 realwest
Yes. And he isn’t half the coach his old man was.

228 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:45:50pm

re: #222 Honorary Yooper

Hey, as long as the Lions can beat both the Packers and the Bears, all is better in the world.

Dream on. The Bears will crush the Lions and smack the Pack on their way to a NFC Championship.

229 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:46:05pm

re: #217 Mich-again

At the Dallas Cowboy’s draft combine they measure grouping at 50 meters.

Groping? Grouping? What in tarnation are those Dallas pansies up to now?!?!

230 Capitalistincharge  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:46:17pm

Um Cato…I wouldn’t admit that in front of Mandy.

231 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:46:25pm

re: #223 Occasional Reader

Feeling any buyer’s remorse?

I have enough for an entire Chicago district (living and otherwise).

232 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:46:25pm

re: #225 Occasional Reader

Full disclosure: I am almost entirely indifferent to the NFL.

like most folks up in DC

233 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:46:32pm

re: #225 Occasional Reader
What?! Are you some kinda alien fruitcake? :)

234 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:46:37pm

re: #225 Occasional Reader

Full disclosure: I am almost entirely indifferent to the NFL.

I’m almost. The Lions did that to me. Now the NHL on the other hand…

Let’s make that 12 Stanley Cups this year, please. :-)

235 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:46:48pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder


If I had told you 6 months ago that Obama would take over GM and publicly fire the CEO, you would probably have called me a paranoid right-winger.
I might have agreed.
Sadly, we’re all down this rabbit hole together, and denying the fundamental changes that Barry wants to make in our system of Government isn’t gonna do anyone any good.
You voted for him, so I assume you read both of his books. What in them makes you feel like I’m wrong?

236 acwgusa  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:47:01pm

Charles, is there any way to order these pictures as full size prints? I would love to have a couple to hang on the wall.

237 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:47:08pm
238 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:47:30pm

re: #216 Thanos

Well I am having all kinds of problems tonight. Just LGF is running slow for me, everything else is fine. I reloaded FF from scratch, still slow, windows firewall off, virus scanner off, still slow…

Anyone else experiencing 20 seconds to a minute after hitting new comments, or is it just me?

It’s a plot directed only at you.

239 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:47:39pm

re: #225 Occasional Reader

Full disclosure: I am almost entirely indifferent to the NFL.

Ah-hah! A jihadi infiltrator!

/;-P

240 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:47:39pm

re: #232 albusteve

like most folks up in DC

You’re kidding, right?

Redskins, blah blah Redskins blah blah, Redskins… I DON’T CARE!

241 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:47:58pm

re: #233 pingjockey

What?! Are you some kinda alien fruitcake? :)

he digs book signings and garden tours…that sort of thing

242 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:48:05pm

re: #216 Thanos
Hey Thanos - I’m not having trouble now, but an hour or so ago, I was trying to post one of my typical informative, yet witty, comments and suddenly got a notice that IE wasn’t working! Damn!
But all seems ok here - I assume you’ve done everything that’s normal, right? I mean, dumpt temp files, clean out cookies, re-boot and all?
(WOW, I cracked myself up with the idea of ME giving Thanos tech ideas! ROFL!).

243 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:48:48pm

re: #232 albusteve

like most folks up in DC

You can thank Danny Boy Snyder for that. When I got here in ‘89, this place was STOKED! Honestly, I’d never seen anything like it; perhaps Texas before a rivalry game?

244 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:48:52pm

re: #216 Thanos

Well I am having all kinds of problems tonight. Just LGF is running slow for me, everything else is fine. I reloaded FF from scratch, still slow, windows firewall off, virus scanner off, still slow…

Anyone else experiencing 20 seconds to a minute after hitting new comments, or is it just me?

No, but I’ll say I rarely have any issues in Safari.

245 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:49:06pm

re: #233 pingjockey

What?! Are you some kinda alien fruitcake? :)

Fruitcake? What are you implying, you bitch! I mean, er… you sonofabitch!

246 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:49:30pm

re: #234 Honorary Yooper

I’m almost. The Lions did that to me. Now the NHL on the other hand…

Let’s make that 12 Stanley Cups this year, please. :-)

Indifferent to the NHL, too. Ha!

247 timbre  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:49:31pm

There’s a new Halfway House in Arlington, TX, just south of Randol Mill and Collins. Big, dang thing! I never realized there were so many ex-felons in the area…

248 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:49:46pm

re: #227 pingjockey

Yes. And he isn’t half the coach his old man was.

Same carbon footprint though…

249 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:49:49pm

re: #226 albusteve
and
re: #227 pingjockey
Gee that’s too bad for the Cowboys - I always did like Bum Phillips! Love a coach who shows real emotion on the field!

250 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:49:55pm

Pings here are fine (53 ms) there’s only 11 hops, I’m D/l at 19 MBPS right now… grrrfff

251 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:02pm

re: #245 Occasional Reader
Nah, not that kinda fruitcake, the nutty kind!

252 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:19pm

re: #216 Thanos

I get that sometimes too. But I haven’t had that problem for a while.

253 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:31pm

re: #241 albusteve

he digs book signings and garden tours…that sort of thing

Keep that up, and I’ll swat you with my European Carryall.

DAMMIT IT’S NOT A “PURSE”!

254 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:42pm

re: #243 PSGInfinity

You can thank Danny Boy Snyder for that. When I got here in ‘89, this place was STOKED! Honestly, I’d never seen anything like it; perhaps Texas before a rivalry game?

he should learn from his elders but he refuses…you simply cannot buy a winner in the NFL

255 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:44pm

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

Dream on. The Bears will crush the Lions and smack the Pack on their way to a NFC Championship.


Until the *cough get CREAMED by the Giants!* cough*

256 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:48pm

re: #251 pingjockey

Nah, not that kinda fruitcake, the nutty kind!

I don’t think that clarified much.

257 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:54pm

re: #247 timbre

There’s a new Halfway House in Arlington, TX, just south of Randol Mill and Collins. Big, dang thing! I never realized there were so many ex-felons in the area…

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

258 Sleepyone  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:51:16pm

re: #182 reine.de.tout

Sleepyone - the print-on-demand seems to be working well.
There were a couple of errors in the first few books printed, and so once they were pointed out, we corrected them. I mean, the entire effort was amateur volunteers, and we learned a lot during the process, I believe. I happen to be very happy with my collectible error copy.

You need to check it out. Here is an image of the cover, which was produced by Jaunte. The back cover was produced by Flak Music. The book cover is very very nice.
The inside pages are just OK - partly due to our amateur standing, and partly due to the quality not being what one would get with a regular book. But it’s acceptable.

Thanks for the links r.d.t.

The cover has a nice illustration. I seem to recall the name Jaunte. Is he/she a poster on LGF? The back looks decent also. I know I’m late to the game of congratulating you on the cookbook but kudos! It’s difficult to self-publish something for sure. My wife is a poet who’s been published in magazines and other books but she’s also self-published a collection and it’s not an easy task. My publishing hat is off to you!

259 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:51:48pm

re: #256 CyanSnowHawk

I don’t think that clarified much.

Nope, sure didn’t.

260 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:52:06pm

re: #249 realwest
Bum would wear shit kickers and his cowboy hat on the field. And could get away with that look. Wade takes waaaay too much shit from the players. I think that is part Jerry Jones fault.

261 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:52:06pm

re: #253 Occasional Reader

Keep that up, and I’ll swat you with my European Carryall.

DAMMIT IT’S NOT A “PURSE”!

careful….watch your nails!

262 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:52:12pm

re: #255 realwest

Until the *cough get CREAMED by the Giants!* cough*

Not going to argue with you on that one. The Giants are still most likely the better team. Still, any given Sunday….

263 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:52:13pm

And I’m watching The Seven Samurai.

Funny thing is, the head Samurai (whom I think of as “Yul Brynner”) looks like the Japanese version of an Argentinian guy I work with.

264 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:53:22pm

re: #257 OldLineTexan

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

that is so twenty years ago…what a hick

265 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:53:33pm

re: #263 Occasional Reader
Good movie. IIRC, the head samurai is Toshiro Mifune.

266 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:53:42pm

re: #254 albusteve

he should learn from his elders but he refuses…you simply cannot buy a winner in the NFL

Bummer for the fans…
(F.D.: I’m a lifelong Browns fan) (Sigh)
(At least the Buckeyes usually do well)(Sends some love to Maurice…)

267 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:54:06pm

All 3 USC Linebackers picked in the first 38 overall. That has to be some kind of record.

268 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:54:21pm

re: #260 pingjockey

Bum would wear shit kickers and his cowboy hat on the field. And could get away with that look. Wade takes waaaay too much shit from the players. I think that is part Jerry Jones fault.

it’s gonna end…look out

269 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:54:29pm

Security Before Politics
By Porter J. Goss

Today, I am slack-jawed to read that members claim to have not understood that the techniques on which they were briefed were to actually be employed; or that specific techniques such as “waterboarding” were never mentioned. It must be hard for most Americans of common sense to imagine how a member of Congress can forget being told about the interrogations of Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. In that case, though, perhaps it is not amnesia but political expedience.

Let me be clear. It is my recollection that:

— The chairs and the ranking minority members of the House and Senate intelligence committees, known as the Gang of Four, were briefed that the CIA was holding and interrogating high-value terrorists.

— We understood what the CIA was doing.

— We gave the CIA our bipartisan support.

— We gave the CIA funding to carry out its activities.

— On a bipartisan basis, we asked if the CIA needed more support from Congress to carry out its mission against al-Qaeda.

/someone’s lying

270 BaseballMom57  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:54:40pm

re: #67 lincolntf

I love that word … “chortle”. Thanks for using it!

I have discovered that Lizards have extensive vocabularies.

271 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:54:55pm

re: #256 CyanSnowHawk

1.)fruit cake=bwaney fwank
2.) fruit cake=christmas cake nobody eats.

272 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:55:14pm

re: #265 pingjockey

Good movie. IIRC, the head samurai is Toshiro Mifune.

Nope. He’s “Kikuchuyo” (sp?), the rather wacky not-really-a-samurai.

273 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:55:18pm

re: #247 timbre

There’s a new Halfway House in Arlington, TX, just south of Randol Mill and Collins. Big, dang thing! I never realized there were so many ex-felons [on the Cowboys team]…


FTFY

274 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:55:33pm

re: #266 PSGInfinity

Bummer for the fans…
(F.D.: I’m a lifelong Browns fan) (Sigh)
(At least the Buckeyes usually do well)(Sends some love to Maurice…)

U of M here…I hate the Buckeys…eat shit and die

275 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:55:41pm

re: #263 Occasional Reader

And I’m watching The Seven Samurai.

Funny thing is, the head Samurai (whom I think of as “Yul Brynner”) looks like the Japanese version of an Argentinian guy I work with.

I watched the Japanese version of “King Lear” just the other night…

276 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:56:00pm

re: #272 Occasional Reader
Okay. I just knew he was in it.

277 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:56:30pm

Jerry Jones is putting together one hell of a Pop Warner team for “09”.

How ‘bout that first round draft pick.

278 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:56:53pm

The head samurai is “Kambei Shimada”, played by Takashi Shimuri.

279 timbre  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:57:23pm

re: #264 albusteve

Steve, Steve…I was born and raised in Dallas. I’ve got Emmitt Smith’s rookie card, and quite a few more. I just get frustrated at the foot-shooting.

280 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:57:31pm

re: #275 Thanos

I watched the Japanese version of “King Lear” just the other night…

“King Rear”. Available at finer midnight movies in SF and The Montrose (Houston).

/

281 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:57:36pm

re: #275 Thanos

I watched the Japanese version of “King Lear” just the other night…

Ran! Good flick.

Of Kurosawa’s films that I’ve seen, I thought the most disappointing was Dreams.

282 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:57:37pm

re: #277 jorline

Jerry Jones is putting together one hell of a Pop Warner team for “09”.

How ‘bout that first round draft pick.

why do you say that?….Roy Williams is a pro bowl receiver

283 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:57:44pm

re: #269 Killian Bundy
“Well of course Goss is lying, He worked for that evil McChimpyBushHitler”!
Pelousi mode off.

284 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:58:31pm

re: #279 timbre

Steve, Steve…I was born and raised in Dallas. I’ve got Emmitt Smith’s rookie card, and quite a few more. I just get frustrated at the foot-shooting.

you expect too much…five rings bro….five

285 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:58:31pm

Gotta love the new Eminem video. Dude might just be the greatest pop star of our time.

286 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:58:38pm

re: #280 OldLineTexan

“King Rear”. Available at finer midnight movies in SF and The Montrose (Houston).

/

Look WHY DON’T YOU TEXAN TROGLODYTES GO BACK TO TALKING ABOUT YOUR BEASTLY FOOTBALL, while the rest of us discuss sophisticated foreign films, m’kay?

287 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:58:47pm

re: #234 Honorary Yooper

I’m almost. The Lions did that to me. Now the NHL on the other hand…

Let’s make that 12 Stanley Cups this year, please. :-)

Go Wings!

288 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:58:52pm

re: #237 Dark_Falcon
Hey Dark_Falcon - from your link:

That’s where Operation Mend came in.

A one-of-kind partnership between the UCLA medical Center and Brooke, the program provides reconstructive surgery to members of the military who’ve been severely disfigured in Iraq and Afghanistan. So far, 24 men and women have been treated.
At Brooke, Mikeworth endured about 16 surgeries, many on the lower right arm that he almost lost in the blast.

Mikeworth’s road to recovery has been part medical marvel, part profile in courage — the stalwart soldier who rebuilds his confidence as doctors rebuild his face.

All along, as UCLA surgeons have tucked and trimmed, adding a bit of cartilage here, a flap of skin there.

“I was pretty gruesome in the beginning,” he says. “I looked like I came out of some Halloween horror movie. I know that. Sometimes if I was having a bad day, I’d get mad at the situation I found myself in, but I would never get angry at the people.”

But his appearance didn’t faze his sons, Ryan, 7, and Connor, 6.

They brought laughter into the home when they returned from a two-month stay with his wife’s parents in Illinois.

Sgt. Mikeworth hopes to join an Army unit by summer. He’s on medical hold while he looks for a suitable slot. He’s thinking about military intelligence or becoming an instructor.

“I don’t want to be put on a shelf or a back burner, or left in a corner anywhere,” he says.

[emphasis realwest]
I still am amazed that America continues to find such fine men and woman who are so willing to defend her. And I can’t begin to tell you how impressed I am with with UCLA and Brooke. Now if only more private hospitals would pitch in, that would be just great.
And I thank Sgt Mikeworth for his service and his inspiration.

289 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:59:36pm

re: #286 Occasional Reader
Ahahahahahahaha! Okay that got a for real belly laugh!

290 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:59:44pm

re: #216 Thanos

Shiplord Kirel was having the same problems the other day. Its been slowing down for me as well and I use the latest firefox.

291 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:59:53pm

Skinhead Reggae Ska

“When a skinhead walks down the street,
Every chick’s heart skips a beat”

292 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:00:18pm

re: #279 timbre

Steve, Steve…I was born and raised in Dallas. I’ve got Emmitt Smith’s rookie card, and quite a few more. I just get frustrated at the foot-shooting.


Put togeter a syndicate…..buy Jerry Jones out….I can’t decide who I like less, him, or Donald Trump.

293 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:00:19pm

re: #286 Occasional Reader

Look WHY DON’T YOU TEXAN TROGLODYTES GO BACK TO TALKING ABOUT YOUR BEASTLY FOOTBALL, while the rest of us discuss sophisticated foreign films, m’kay?

The Cowboys play football?

It makes sense now. All the other inmates at Huntsville have orange jumpsuits. Football. I’ll be damned.

294 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:00:39pm

OK, time to vent…ya wanna hear some whining about NFL? I was born in “The ‘Hood”.
Yeah, Compton. And see this pic? That’s me and my older brothers on the L.A. Colosseum practice field with the Rams! In ‘54.
Like I had any choice about being a fan?

St Louis? St Louis?

295 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:00:46pm

re: #274 albusteve

U of M here…I hate the Buckey[e]s…eat shit and die

2008: A fine vintage; Buckeyes do better than expected and UselessMich and the Oyish had horrific years…

296 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:00:51pm

re: #289 pingjockey

Ahahahahahahaha! Okay that got a for real belly laugh!

Tex made me so angry, I almost spilled my Macchiato onto my ascot.

297 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:01:38pm

re: #285 Mich-again

Gotta love the new Eminem video. Dude might just be the greatest pop star of our time.

Notice that the Dallas Cowboys are in that video.

And it sucks.

Coincidence?

298 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:01:41pm

re: #295 PSGInfinity

2008: A fine vintage; Buckeyes do better than expected and UselessMich and the Oyish had horrific years…

Mich is in the tank bigtime….bibical like

299 jaunte  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:01:55pm

re: #288 realwest

Hey Dark_Falcon - from your link:

[emphasis realwest]
I still am amazed that America continues to find such fine men and woman who are so willing to defend her. And I can’t begin to tell you how impressed I am with with UCLA and Brooke. Now if only more private hospitals would pitch in, that would be just great.
And I thank Sgt Mikeworth for his service and his inspiration.

Just wanted to repeat that.

300 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:02:21pm

re: #294 IslandLibertarian
I most definetly agree.

301 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:02:41pm

Dammit, now I’m really craving a good katana.

302 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:02:45pm

re: #293 OldLineTexan

The Cowboys play football?

It makes sense now. All the other inmates at Huntsville have orange jumpsuits. Football. I’ll be damned.

you will too…

303 BaseballMom57  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:02:58pm

re: #110 HelloDare

“If you read that Miss California is murdered you will know it was me”

I do not, as a personal rule of thumb, drop the “f” bomb, but this … this story … may very well have me screaming it.

304 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:02:58pm

re: #297 OldLineTexan

Notice that the Dallas Cowboys are in that video.

Just one. Romo. oh and his GF J Simpson.

305 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:03:07pm

re: #281 Occasional Reader

Ran! Good flick.

Of Kurosawa’s films that I’ve seen, I thought the most disappointing was Dreams.

My favorite was Kagemusha, Ran’s pretty good though

306 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:03:11pm

Bedtime for me.

307 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:03:12pm

re: #285 Mich-again

Not bad. But I like his earlier stuff better. He hasn’t evolved much but I think that about most music these days. There’s not much going on that I get excited about.

308 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:03:32pm

re: #285 Mich-again

Gotta love the new Eminem video. Dude might just be the greatest pop star of our time.

Downding. That video mocks Sarah Palin in a truly vile way. How can you like something that does that?

309 Last Mohican  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:03:39pm

re: #59 Kosh’s Shadow

Unless it was securely erased, there are places that can recover quite a bit, if not all, but we’re talking a lot of money.
If it was just the directory info, it is easier, but pictures are hard to recover, because there is no easy way to tell which file block goes with which picture and where.

I’m replying to this late, but it caught my attention. It would be such a shame if all of those photos of such a horrible moment in history were to be lost.

There are museums that have dedicated a lot of resources to preserving memories of 9/11. I’ll bet one of them would pay or use their own people to try to recover that hard drive. The New-York Historical Society comes to mind. I saw a very poignant 9/11 exhibit there once.

310 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:03:56pm

re: #260 pingjockey
I gotta be honest here - for a long time I thought the Cowboys were the second coming of Montana and the ‘49er’s. Then Jerry Jones didn’t like the fact that HIS chosen head coach, Jimmy, started getting more press and WHAM - Jimmy was gone.
I honestly think that although Jerry deserves a lot of credit for taking a laughingstock of a team to the top of the heaps several times, in many ways he’s just too much like George Steinbrenner used to be.

311 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:01pm

re: #285 Mich-again

Gotta love the new Eminem video. Dude might just be the greatest pop star of our time.

He’s so under valued.

312 aussiemagpie  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:14pm

G’day from Down Under to {everyone}

It’s a windy Sunday arvo here and I should be doing other stuff like the washing, cleaning the messy house, emailing {reine} some recipes…. not lurking here!

313 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:20pm

re: #211 realwest

Hi Cato! Hey, have you always been a socialist or is that something new?

Yo, Real. Keeping well?

So anyone who voted for Obama is a “socialist”? That’ll surprise a whole lotta people…

I’ve always been a registered Independent. Means I can’t vote in the state-sponsored nominating conventions known as “primaries” in the state I live in, but I won’t be pegged as a Demublican or a Republicrat.

I voted for Gore in 2000, Bush in 2004, and Obama in 2008. And if she grows a brain I would even consider voting for Palin in 2012 (not likely, but if she won me over I would).

I reject hysteria from the right and the left.

re: #235 lincolntf

If I had told you 6 months ago that Obama would take over GM and publicly fire the CEO, you would probably have called me a paranoid right-winger.

And if I told you that McCain would have done the same thing, you’d probably think I’m crazy. But I’m betting it’s true.

GM needs either needs to die or be run by grownups for a while.

re: #223 Occasional Reader

Feeling any buyer’s remorse?

Am I perfectly happy? As I said, no. But I didn’t expect to be. I didn’t buy into the unicorns and rainbows crap, I voted for a politician. No, I’m still glad the two creationist appeasers are not calling the shots.

re: #230 Capitalistincharge

Um Cato…I wouldn’t admit that in front of Mandy.

Mandy knows. I think I got at least one of her patented mannerly tongue-lashings already. I can take it.

314 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:28pm

re: #302 albusteve

you will too…

oh noes! Jerry Jonez gonna rite da debbil a chek to taek me to teh Basement Cat! waily waily!

315 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:39pm

re: #308 Dark_Falcon

Downding. That video mocks Sarah Palin in a truly vile way. How can you like something that does that?

C’mon, it’s not that bad.

316 wiffersnapper  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:40pm

Are they yawning?

317 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:48pm

re: #290 MrPaulRevere

Shiplord Kirel was having the same problems the other day. Its been slowing down for me as well and I use the latest firefox.

Yes, this started after the last firefox update, but it’s running slow in IE 8 too…

318 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:05:12pm

re: #303 BaseballMom57

I do not, as a personal rule of thumb, drop the “f” bomb, but this … this story … may very well have me screaming it.

And what’s worse; He’s a Tory. What a vile fool he is.

319 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:05:13pm

re: #282 albusteve

why do you say that?….Roy Williams is a pro bowl receiver

Hey albusteve…hope you are well this evening.

watch out for the 3rd and forth rounds…Dallas has it all figured out.
First pick #69.

I sure do miss Tex Schramm.

320 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:05:35pm

re: #307 Killgore Trout

Not bad. But I like his earlier stuff better. He hasn’t evolved much but I think that about most music these days. There’s not much going on that I get excited about.

if you dig M&M or whoever he is, I can understand….hahahahaha!…melts in your mouth eh?….hahaha!

321 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:05:36pm

re: #313 Cato the Elder

Palin stoopid, Obama smart.

/ugh

322 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:05:49pm

re: #311 Sharmuta

He’s so under valued.


Is that even possible?

323 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:06:02pm

re: #310 realwest
You bet. IMO, the owner is supposed to sign the checks, sit up in his really cool luxury box and leave football to the pros. Jerry thinks he knows on the field shit and he doesn’t.

324 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:06:04pm

re: #288 realwest

Hey RW…good to see you friend!

325 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:06:20pm

re: #317 Thanos

Yes, this started after the last firefox update, but it’s running slow in IE 8 too…

Switch to Safari.

326 Racer X  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:06:31pm

re: #285 Mich-again

Gotta love the new Eminem video. Dude might just be the greatest pop star of our time.

I hate that I like that guy.

327 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:06:35pm

re: #315 Killgore Trout

C’mon, it’s not that bad.

Yes, it is. Eminem is scum, and his video is a crude attack on a woman who desearves better.

328 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:06:42pm

re: #298 albusteve

Mich is in the tank bigtime….biblical like

We thoroughly enjoyed that…mostly because it’s so rare.
“Please, sir, can I have some more ?”

329 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:06:55pm

re: #308 Dark_Falcon

Downding. That video mocks Sarah Palin in a truly vile way. How can you like something that does that?

Erm…because she cries out for mockery?

330 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:07:10pm

re: #320 albusteve

I’m getting old but I’m not old enough to not understand rap music.

331 2by2  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:07:27pm

re: #234 Honorary Yooper

I’m almost. The Lions did that to me. Now the NHL on the other hand…

Let’s make that 12 Stanley Cups this year, please. :-)

Yooper your boys are my strong favorite for a repeat, I called it correctly last year,
even the number of games; and if at all possible, they have gotten better over the last season.

332 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:07:30pm

re: #269 Killian Bundy
Yep, and it ain’t Porter J. Goss either.

333 aussiemagpie  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:07:50pm

re: #288 realwest


*SMOOCH*

334 BaseballMom57  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:08:34pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

LOVE the piano tune! Reminds me of that gal my Dad loved to watch on the Lawrence Welk Show… what was her name? OH! Joanne Castle, I think.

335 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:08:36pm

re: #308 Dark_Falcon

Downding. That video mocks Sarah Palin in a truly vile way. How can you like something that does that?

Uh- trust me- that was complimentary coming from Marshall. When he means to be insulting towards a woman- he does so very clearly.

336 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:08:36pm

re: #313 Cato the Elder

So what you’re saying is that you didn’t read his books, and rather than defend Leftist intrusion into free eneterprise, you posit that Rightists would have done the same?
Oy, you’re quite a specimen.

337 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:08:41pm

re: #323 pingjockey

You bet. IMO, the owner is supposed to sign the checks, sit up in his really cool luxury box and leave football to the pros. Jerry thinks he knows on the field shit and he doesn’t.

Actually, as a former college player, he’s in the worst possible position: he knows just enough to be dangerous.
(Worst kind of user to deal with)
(Been doin’ it fifteen years (PC Repair))

338 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:08:41pm

re: #319 jorline

Hey albusteve…hope you are well this evening.

watch out for the 3rd and forth rounds…Dallas has it all figured out.
First pick #69.

I sure do miss Tex Schramm.

Gil Brandt was the player wizard…he and Schramm were a machine, but the league has changed now…those guys are long gone

339 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:08:46pm

re: #277 jorline
Hey jorline - who did the Cowboys draft first?

340 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:09:21pm

re: #329 Cato the Elder

Erm…because she cries out for mockery?

Mockery is what Tina Fey did on SNL. Eminem just makes vile slights at a decent woman who does not deserve them.

341 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:09:23pm

re: #326 Racer X

I hate that I like that guy.

I like him.

342 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:09:54pm

re: #340 Dark_Falcon

You’ve never heard him go off on Mariah Carey, have you?

343 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:05pm

re: #321 OldLineTexan

Palin stoopid, Obama smart.

/ugh

Of course he’s smart. Where normal, dumb people would simply say “we must do X”, Obama says “we must, we shall, we can, and we will do X”. That’s how smart people talk.

344 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:11pm

re: #337 PSGInfinity
That is true too. Knows enough to be dangerous. Heh.

345 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:15pm

re: #323 pingjockey

You bet. IMO, the owner is supposed to sign the checks, sit up in his really cool luxury box and leave football to the pros. Jerry thinks he knows on the field shit and he doesn’t.

you have no clue….you follow news papers or whatever….don’t be fooled, he has had some monster drafts….why can’t he manage his team?

346 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:20pm

re: #317 Thanos

It got so bad for him he said he wasn’t coming back. I have seen him post since then thankfully, he’s one of my favorites here. I can relate to his frustration, its the little things that drive a man nuts.

347 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:26pm

re: #308 Dark_Falcon

How can you like something that does that?

Either my threshold for funny is too low or the one for offensive is too high. One or the other.

But I liked the song before I saw the video and I have to admit I had no idea what the lyrics were, just that the voice pattern was uniquely MM. The good ones get copied, the great ones can’t be copied.

348 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:56pm

re: #343 Occasional Reader

Of course he’s smart. Where normal, dumb people would simply say “we must do X”, Obama says “we must, we shall, we can, and we will do X”. That’s how smart people talk.

Me so happy smart people vote good.

349 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:11:08pm

That was MUCH more rude to Jessica Simpson. Marshall admitted there he likes Sarah.

350 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:11:22pm

re: #335 Sharmuta

Uh- trust me- that was complimentary coming from Marshall. When he means to be insulting towards a woman- he does so very clearly.

I know, but that doesn’t make it much better. Marshall Mathers is a boil on a cultural backside. I’d like to lance his career (note: his career, not him personally), and be done with him.

351 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:11:32pm

re: #286 Occasional Reader
HEY! I ain’t from Texas! And We (that is, the Giants drafted a big wide receiver out of - ta da - North Carolina!
The only good thing about foreign films is that you’re so busy reading the subtitles you never have to actually watch the flick!
Thippppit!

352 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:11:33pm

re: #345 albusteve
Mwahahahaha!

353 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:12:35pm

re: #350 Dark_Falcon

I know, but that doesn’t make it much better. Marshall Mathers is a boil on our cultural backside. I’d like to lance his career (note: his career, not him personally), and be done with him.

PIMF

354 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:13:04pm

re: #330 Killgore Trout

I’m getting old but I’m not old enough to not understand rap music.

how eloquent…what’s understanding rap music got to do with anything?…does one ascend when they understand it?

355 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:13:09pm

re: #313 Cato the Elder

You’re probably correct that GM either needs to die or be run by grown-ups. Sadly, grown-ups aren’t going to be in charge as long as Obama feels free to meddle.

(I don’t think grown-ups would take a cold, hard look at GM’s situation and decide that the way to improve the company’s bottom line is to dump several of its most profitable products.)

356 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:13:10pm

re: #347 Mich-again

Either my threshold for funny is too low or the one for offensive is too high. One or the other.

But I liked the song before I saw the video and I have to admit I had no idea what the lyrics were, just that the voice pattern was uniquely MM. The good ones get copied, the great ones can’t be copied.

He’s very unique. A rhythm like no other. I went on a Eminem kick one night, then put in the Beastie Boys, and I never thought I’d feel let down from the Beasties, but I was like- “Marshall owns your asses, guys!”

357 BaseballMom57  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:13:13pm

Regarding the cookbook (#1) -

Beware the Poppy Seed Cake recipe if you work for a company who may request random drug testing. My friend’s daughter had a good friend in her rehab who baked a poppy seed cake from a box. She happened to be pregnant, so she ate most of it in one sitting. She had to submit to a urinalysis per the terms of her probation, and it took months in front of several judges to prove she wasn’t using cocaine - she simply ate too much poppy seed cake. Bizarre, but true.

358 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:13:25pm

re: #341 Sharmuta

I like him.

Yeah, and then there’s his incredibly nuanced political commentary like this.

Feh.

He’s just a punk.

359 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:13:38pm

re: #294 IslandLibertarian
Hey, who was that #32 - Ollie Matson (sp?)?

360 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:14:15pm

re: #350 Dark_Falcon

I know, but that doesn’t make it much better. Marshall Mathers is a boil on a cultural backside. I’d like to lance his genre (note: his genre, not him personally), and be done with him, and it.

Embiggened it for ya’!

361 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:14:24pm

G’nite folks!

362 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:14:32pm

re: #352 pingjockey

Mwahahahaha!

YOUR’E JERRY JONES!

363 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:14:46pm

re: #357 BaseballMom57

Regarding the cookbook (#1) -

Beware the Poppy Seed Cake recipe if you work for a company who may request random drug testing. My friend’s daughter had a good friend in her rehab who baked a poppy seed cake from a box. She happened to be pregnant, so she ate most of it in one sitting. She had to submit to a urinalysis per the terms of her probation, and it took months in front of several judges to prove she wasn’t using cocaine - she simply ate too much poppy seed cake. Bizarre, but true.

Poppyseeds = false opiate results on cheap tests, not cocaine.

364 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:15:28pm

re: #358 Occasional Reader

If I tossed out all the music of people I politically disagreed with I’d be left with what?

365 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:15:37pm

re: #339 realwest

Hey jorline - who did the Cowboys draft first?

they traded out of the second round…they have not used one of their 12 picks yet

366 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:15:51pm

I admit, I only hate Eminem because I’m a racist.

what?

367 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:15:57pm

re: #358 Occasional Reader

Yeah, and then there’s his incredibly nuanced political commentary like this.

Feh.

He’s just a punk.

I would pay for an album of Kid Rock kicking his ass.

368 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:16:29pm

re: #364 Sharmuta

If I tossed out all the music of people I politically disagreed with I’d be left with what?


Pat Boone?

369 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:16:39pm

re: #360 PSGInfinity

Embiggened it for ya’!

Works for me, good improvement.

370 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:16:48pm

re: #364 Sharmuta

If I tossed out all the music of people I politically disagreed with I’d be left with what?

Canadians, because their opinons don’t count.

/

371 Gus  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:17:05pm

My head is spinning. I might have nightmares involving Manfred Rouhs and the rest of those goons.

372 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:17:12pm

re: #367 OldLineTexan

I would pay for an album of Kid Rock kicking his ass.

I’d pay to watch a video of that.

373 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:17:23pm

re: #338 albusteve

Gil Brandt was the player wizard…he and Schramm were a machine, but the league has changed now…those guys are long gone

Who knows…If Wade Phillips sports a Fedora next year, perhaps the “Ghost Of Landry Past” will pay us a visit…..NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

374 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:17:26pm

re: #358 Occasional Reader

Zappa was pretty harsh on a lot of people. The music was still good.

375 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:17:31pm

re: #313 Cato the Elder
“So anyone who voted for Obama is a “socialist”? That’ll surprise a whole lotta people…”
Well ok, then, what were some of his programs or experience that attracted you to vote for Obama?

376 PSGInfinity  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:17:53pm

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

Works for me, good improvement.

Thanks Falcon! And on that note, I bid you all good night, from DCTown!

377 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:17:54pm

re: #364 Sharmuta

If I tossed out all the music of people I politically disagreed with I’d be left with what?

Not quite the same thing. I’m sure there are plenty of artists whose politics I disagree with, but who never felt the need to incorporate “FUCK BUSH” (plus Trooferism) into their work.

Anyway, I’m just not much of a rap/hip-hop fan to begin with (with very scattered exceptions).

378 NY Nana  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:17:58pm

re: #218 CyanSnowHawk

I know squat re baseball, but as a native Bostonian? I am forever a member of the Red Sox Nation, albeit sitting here in NY, not all that far from *gag* Yankee Stadium. Feh!

My parents zt”l were also 100% Red Sox, even though my Mum and I never got taken to a game…just my male cousins.

How I wish my parents had lived to see the Red Sox win the World Series!

379 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:18:28pm

re: #371 Gus 802

My head is spinning. I might have nightmares involving Manfred Rouhs and the rest of those goons.

Keep the lights on and sleep with one foot on the floor.

380 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:18:33pm

Mich- this one is still probably my favorite.

381 Gus  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:18:55pm

re: #379 Killgore Trout

Keep the lights on and sleep with one foot on the floor.

If I keep this up I might have to. ;)

382 solomonpanting  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:19:34pm
383 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:19:38pm

re: #357 BaseballMom57

Regarding the cookbook (#1) -

Beware the Poppy Seed Cake recipe if you work for a company who may request random drug testing. My friend’s daughter had a good friend in her rehab who baked a poppy seed cake from a box. She happened to be pregnant, so she ate most of it in one sitting. She had to submit to a urinalysis per the terms of her probation, and it took months in front of several judges to prove she wasn’t using cocaine - she simply ate too much poppy seed cake. Bizarre, but true.

Trust me BBMom…stick with the Tilapia. ;)

384 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:19:48pm

re: #359 realwest

I don’t know who it is. I’ve tried to research it, but can’t find a ‘54 team roster with numbers. I’d love to know.

385 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:20:04pm

re: #375 realwest

I’m guessing that he was a 30% Change and 70% Hope kind of guy.
Poor suckers got pulled in by the boatload.

386 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:20:16pm

And I always love Dr Dre in his videos- he’s a great straight man.

387 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:20:32pm

Some musicians/artists/actors I merely disagree with.

Others seem to be working very hard to be utterly vile, vicious, depraved, hateful, or what-have-you. Those are the ones I try not to support with my hard-earned cash.

I’ve always thought Eminem was a misogynist little @#$%&*. Was I wrong?

388 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:20:34pm

re: #371 Gus 802

My head is spinning. I might have nightmares involving Manfred Rouhs and the rest of those goons.

Try this.

389 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:20:39pm

re: #370 OldLineTexan

Canadians, because their opinons don’t count.

/

Neil Young comes to mind…good thinking

390 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:20:51pm

re: #377 Occasional Reader

Not quite the same thing. I’m sure there are plenty of artists whose politics I disagree with, but who never felt the need to incorporate “FUCK BUSH” (plus Trooferism) into their work.

Anyway, I’m just not much of a rap/hip-hop fan to begin with (with very scattered exceptions).

You’re missing insightful musings such as “I’m the m-f’ing n* that your momma told you ‘bout”.

How can you live like that, man?

/

“Duck and you won’t get hit.” Now THAT’S advice you can use TODAY.

391 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:21:07pm

Just one more thing before I hit the sack - Eminem gets the Chris Morris treatment

Nite all :)

392 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:21:29pm

re: #380 Sharmuta

Behead those who insult Cheney!
/love that song

393 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:21:54pm

re: #339 realwest

Hey jorline - who did the Cowboys draft first?

lmao…they’re first pick is in the 3rd round…you’re Giants are safe for another year RW.

394 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:22:26pm

re: #389 albusteve

Neil Young comes to mind…good thinking

See? I love Neil, and don’t have to give a rat’s ass about his silly Canadian politics.

;)

395 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:22:45pm

re: #380 Sharmuta Another great one. Playing right now. ATTENTION PLEASE..

396 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:23:15pm

re: #364 Sharmuta

If I tossed out all the music of people I politically disagreed with I’d be left with what?

I’m actually something of a fan of Green Day, despite their anti-War-on-Terror antics (which as on display in the new video for their song Know Your Enemy. I just view Eminem as culturally toxic: crude, lewd, and nasty. He raps well, but can’t really bring myself to like him, he offends me too much.

397 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:23:16pm

re: #327 Dark_Falcon
Now, now, we all know how much Eminem has done for his country. Or state. Or hometown. Not to mention he’s so bright and knowledgeable!

398 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:23:54pm

re: #351 realwest

HEY! I ain’t from Texas! And We (that is, the Giants drafted a big wide receiver out of - ta da - North Carolina!
The only good thing about foreign films is that you’re so busy reading the subtitles you never have to actually watch the flick!
Thippppit!

I forgot…your regular wide receiver shot himself last year.

399 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:24:27pm

re: #380 Sharmuta

Mich- this one is still probably my favorite.

Meh.

Look, the lyrics are “clever”, in a way. The music sounds, to me, like it’s written by a machine.

400 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:24:50pm

re: #394 OldLineTexan

See? I love Neil, and don’t have to give a rat’s ass about his silly Canadian politics.

;)

he’s okay….if you like someone who cannot sing or play guitar…a fair poet tho

401 lurking faith  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:24:56pm

sudden incoherence syndrome has hit

g’night all

402 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:25:28pm

re: #399 Occasional Reader

Look, the lyrics are “clever”, in a way. The music sounds, to me, like it’s written by a machine.

Exactly.

403 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:25:46pm

re: #399 Occasional Reader

I keep hoping that there will be a funk revival. It’ll happen someday.

404 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:04pm

re: #333 aussiemagpie
Whoa! A surprise *SMOOCH* - my favorite kind! How are you doing this morning, afternoon or whatever time it is down under?!
And a big *Smooch* back to ya!

405 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:07pm

Actually one more thing - Occasional reader, I boobed earlier. The Borges story I was thinking of isn’t the Congress - its “The Chronicles of Bustos Domecq”.

Nite (for real this time).

406 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:09pm

re: #398 jorline

I forgot…your regular wide receiver shot himself last year.

then got cut…hahaha!…and they mock the Cowboys!

407 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:18pm

re: #396 Dark_Falcon

Have you ever heard Mockingbird?

408 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:23pm

re: #400 albusteve

he’s okay….if you like someone who cannot sing or play guitar…a fair poet tho

That’s the secret … lots of people can sing and play guitar … but they are musically uninteresting. Neil has soul.

409 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:24pm

I’m dating myself here, but this is my idea of maximum R+B:

410 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:32pm

re: #336 lincolntf

So what you’re saying is that you didn’t read his books, and rather than defend Leftist intrusion into free eneterprise, you posit that Rightists would have done the same?
Oy, you’re quite a specimen.

No, you’re saying I didn’t read his books. Whatevs. You’re quite a mind reader.

Who started the bailouts? Hmm? You don’t think McCain would have done something very similar to Obama? All the mainstream economists were screaming we’d all die - die, I tell you! - if the banks and insurance thieves didn’t get a blank check. That wouldn’t have happened if John Maverick had been selected? Wanna buy a bridge?

As for free enterprise, we haven’t had it for decades. We’ve had corporate welfare, revolving-door Schmiergeld politics, subsidized losers, socialized losses and privatized gains. Anyone remember Enron and the Keating five? Whose watch were they on?

And you want me to believe that Obama is going to turn us into Cuba with superhighways? Got another bridge you should look at…

What happens, see, is there’s a secret room 44 stories below the White House, and right after a new guy is sworn in, he’s taken down there and shown the statue of Baphomet and initiated into the secret handshakes and the magic underwear and the 33rd degree master mason arcana, and told that he can have his fun for four or eight years but this and this and this are lines he doesn’t want to cross if he prefers to keep his nuts in the sack, and by the time it’s all over, you get a left-of-center or right-of-center guy who’s bound to disappoint his followers and surprise his opponents.

And what’s left of the Republic sails merrily on, with Larry Summers or Brent Scowcroft in the catbird seat and all the reformers from right and left stuck in the cold with their noses pressed up against the glass.

And now I have to go watch “Dollhouse” and pretend Eliza Dushku is my g/f. Sad life, I know, but it beats obsessing about things that really, truly just aren’t gonna happen.

411 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:51pm

re: #405 Jimmah

I boobed earlier.

Lucky!

412 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:52pm

re: #403 Killgore Trout

I keep hoping that there will be a funk revival. It’ll happen someday.

Yes, the funk revival will begin on the first Saturday that comes in the middle of the week. :D

413 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:27:02pm

re: #397 realwest

I’m rap illiterate, but Eminem had one album that I loved to work to. There’s a little bit of rock in that skidbag, believe it or not.
Don’t know which album, it belonged to the kid of my boss.

414 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:27:07pm

re: #399 Occasional Reader

Meh.

Look, the lyrics are “clever”, in a way. The music sounds, to me, like it’s written by a machine.

You mean like disco?

415 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:27:22pm

re: #399 Occasional Reader

Meh.

Look, the lyrics are “clever”, in a way. The music sounds, to me, like it’s written by a machine.

it is…it’s made for video…it’s as musical as a chainsaw

416 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:27:26pm

re: #336 lincolntf
Hey, seriously my friend, Cato is a good guy - really he is.

417 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:27:58pm

re: #407 Sharmuta

Have you ever heard Mockingbird?

No, I have not. I’ll make a point of listening to it soon.

418 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:28:04pm

re: #413 lincolntf

I’m rap illiterate, but Eminem had one album that I loved to work to. There’s a little bit of rock in that skidbag, believe it or not.
Don’t know which album, it belonged to the kid of my boss.

See? Thats how he does it- he slips in, and the next thing you know it’s all, “I kinda like the guy”.

419 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:28:17pm

re: #408 OldLineTexan

That’s the secret … lots of people can sing and play guitar … but they are musically uninteresting. Neil has soul.

he’s a monumental jerk…but then I have a soul too I guess

420 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:28:37pm

re: #417 Dark_Falcon

No, I have not. I’ll make a point of listening to it soon.

No time like the present. This song actually makes me cry at times.

421 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:29:07pm

re: #403 Killgore Trout

I keep hoping that there will be a funk revival. It’ll happen someday.

Now THAT’S something I could get behind.

422 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:29:25pm

Beasties…..
B-Boy Bouillabaisse

423 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:29:42pm

re: #419 albusteve

he’s a monumental jerk…but then I have a soul too I guess

now what did Neil do to you? you can tell me. i bet M&Ms likes him.

424 aussiemagpie  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:29:56pm

re: #404 realwest

Whoa! A surprise *SMOOCH* - my favorite kind! How are you doing this morning, afternoon or whatever time it is down under?!
And a big *Smooch* back to ya!

Hi darls and it’s Sunday arvo here, and I’m suffering from *Housework Avoidance Syndrome*

425 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:30:02pm

Something a little FUNKY for Killgore:

426 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:30:02pm

re: #414 Sharmuta

You mean like disco?

disco?…hell yeah!

427 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:30:37pm

What the heck is going on?!
Lieberman: Israel won’t strike Iran - even if sanctions fail

Israel will not attack Iran even if the international sanctions against Tehran fail to convince President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to give up his country’s nuclear program, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman told the Austrian daily Kleine Zeitung.In an interview published this weekend, Lieberman was asked whether Israel planned to strike Iran as a last resort.

“We are not talking about a military attack. Israel cannot resolve militarily the entire world’s problem. I propose that the United States, as the largest power in the world, take responsibility for resolving the Iranian question,” Lieberman told the paper.

“The best way to stop Iran’s nuclear program is through severe sanctions, very severe sanctions,” he said. “The resolutions of the UN Security Council are insufficient. Iran must be presented with harsher and more effective sanctions. It worked against Libya. We must isolate Iran; only this way will results be possible.”

Lieberman reiterated his position that Iran is an international problem

Could this just be a diplomatic ploy? As much as I agree with many of his views, I don’t see Lieberman as being a very tactful diplomat about this sorta thing. He’s too prone to speaking his mind. Then again, that just makes him more effective as a bluff or cover.

Any thoughts?

428 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:31:09pm

re: #416 realwest

Hey, seriously my friend, Cato is a good guy - really he is.

indeed

429 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:31:20pm

re: #416 realwest

I’m not jumping on him as a person. For all I know he’s a Saint.
But he could be the King of friggin’ England for all I care. Wrong is wrong.

430 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:32:12pm

re: #425 Sharmuta

Lenny sure had a short career. I was expecting more out of him.

431 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:32:13pm

re: #428 albusteve

indeed

yes, he helped save us from palin by giving us biden thank god for small favors i don’t think i could survive any bigger ones

432 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:32:50pm

re: #430 Killgore Trout

Lenny sure had a short career. I was expecting more out of him.

Lisa Bonet drained his precious vital fluids.

433 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:33:12pm

re: #423 OldLineTexan

now what did Neil do to you? you can tell me. i bet M&Ms likes him.

soul brothers no doubt….Neil is a bigtime America critic…the market where he made his multi milllions…pin head hypocrit

434 NY Nana  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:33:27pm

re: #427 Joo-LiZ

Any thoughts?

Yes. [Deleted]…..but it is Ha’aretz…I am going to check a few other Israeli on-line papers.

BRB….

435 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:33:34pm

re: #430 Killgore Trout

Lenny sure had a short career. I was expecting more out of him.

I cannot think rationally about Lenny Kravitz, because he dated… you-know-who…

[bitter jealous angry]

436 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:34:07pm

re: #432 Sharmuta

Lisa Bonet drained his precious vital fluids.

you gotta die of something, and that way is a worthy goal imo

437 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:34:10pm

re: #431 OldLineTexan

yes, he helped save us from palin by giving us biden thank god for small favors i don’t think i could survive any bigger ones

Cato did all that?….wow

438 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:34:20pm

re: #435 Occasional Reader

I cannot think rationally about Lenny Kravitz, because he dated… you-know-who…

[bitter jealous angry]

That married woman?

439 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:34:23pm

re: #409 MrPaulRevere

I’m dating myself here, but this is my idea of maximum R+B:

[Video]



Eric Clapton at his Best!

440 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:34:40pm

re: #427 Joo-LiZ

What the heck is going on?!
Lieberman: Israel won’t strike Iran - even if sanctions fail

Could this just be a diplomatic ploy? As much as I agree with many of his views, I don’t see Lieberman as being a very tactful diplomat about this sorta thing. He’s too prone to speaking his mind. Then again, that just makes him more effective as a bluff or cover.

Any thoughts?

I’ll see what the Jerusalem Post or Israel National News says first. I don’t trust Haaretz (what a disgrace for a leftist paper to be called “The Land”, when they have so little respect for it)

441 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:34:52pm

re: #433 albusteve

soul brothers no doubt….Neil is a bigtime America critic…the market where he made his multi milllions…pin head hypocrit

see, he’s canadian so we can just blow him off. now the dixie chicks, babs streisand …

442 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:34:59pm

re: #427 Joo-LiZ

Could this just be a diplomatic ploy?

I sure as hell hope so. If anyone is going to prevent a Nuclear-Armed Mullahcracy at this point, it’ll have to be Israel. (Obama sure as hell isn’t going to do it.)

443 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:35:10pm

re: #437 albusteve

Cato did all that?….wow

helped

444 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:35:12pm

re: #432 Sharmuta

Lucky man.

445 Archimedes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:35:24pm

re: #426 albusteve

disco?…hell yeah!


[Video]

Breaking out the big guns, eh? Love the Stones.

446 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:35:33pm

re: #438 Sharmuta

That married woman?

You are a cruel, cruel woman.

447 Gus  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:35:35pm

Someone say disco?

The Trammps - Disco Inferno

448 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:35:47pm

re: #442 Occasional Reader

I sure as hell hope so. If anyone is going to prevent a Nuclear-Armed Mullahcracy at this point, it’ll have to be Israel. (Obama sure as hell isn’t going to do it.)

HEY, MCCAIN WOULD HAVE DONE/NOT DONE THE SAME THING!

/

449 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:36:06pm

Of course- my sense of humor is odd, but I loved Ass Like That.

/Possibly NSFW. DO NOT click if you’re easily offended.

450 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:36:48pm

re: #384 IslandLibertarian
Nope, I was wrong. Ollie Matson played for the Rams, but from 1959-1962.
[Link: www.profootballhof.com…]

451 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:36:53pm

re: #434 NY Nana

Yes. [Deleted]…..but it is Ha’aretz…I am going to check a few other Israeli on-line papers.

BRB….

JPost cites the same interview in the Austrian paper without the “We won’t strike Iran” quote….

I just don’t see how Haaretz could have gotten this sort of thing wrong. If anything, they’d have lept on/made up Lieberman saying that Israel WOULD strike Iran.

452 BaseballMom57  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:36:54pm

re: #363 OldLineTexan

You are absolutely right … it was over a year ago, and I obviously misspoke. You would think though, that whoever was doing the testing would have more accurate tests.

453 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:37:21pm

re: #446 Occasional Reader

You are a cruel, cruel woman.

its not the knife in the kidneys, its the twisting of the same

454 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:37:27pm

re: #439 jorline


Eric Clapton at his Best!

you may be right…that tour was a monster and Jack Bruce was exceptionally good too

455 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:38:46pm

re: #445 Archimedes

Breaking out the big guns, eh? Love the Stones.

well put…you name it, they did it…probably first and better than most

456 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:38:48pm

re: #388 Noam Sayin’
HEY NOAM! How are you? Geez, I haven’t seen you in a while (must be my schedule) - sure hope you’re ok!?
And that was a great song!

457 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:38:55pm

re: #452 BaseballMom57

You are absolutely right … it was over a year ago, and I obviously misspoke. You would think though, that whoever was doing the testing would have more accurate tests.

I was raised on real kolaches, and have been warned of the effects.

Most tests are cheap, unfortunately, because cheap is what folks want to pay for.

458 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:39:05pm

Good evening!

Our guests have departed, well fed and happy.

My house is clean, including having a carpet cleaning service clean the stairs after a doggy accident.

How’s everything?

459 wee fury  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:39:38pm
460 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:39:44pm

re: #458 Dianna

We’ve had a nazi-fest.

461 Archimedes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:39:59pm

For brilliant drum play,
Radar Love:

462 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:40:18pm

re: #460 Sharmuta

We’ve had a nazi-fest.

I’m sorry. Did the nazis depart, disconsolate?

463 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:40:44pm

re: #458 Dianna

Good evening!

Our guests have departed, well fed and happy.

My house is clean, including having a carpet cleaning service clean the stairs after a doggy accident.

How’s everything?

albusteve and i have demoted marshall mathers aka eminem to “canadian” status

464 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:40:56pm

re: #459 wee fury

I’m not a FS fan, but that video was pure genius.

465 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:41:04pm

re: #461 Archimedes

For brilliant drum play,
Radar Love:

[Video]

some good southern funk there…max boogie

466 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:41:10pm

re: #462 Dianna

I’m sorry. Did the nazis depart, disconsolate?

No- their friends are still hurling vitriol from their various websites. You know- the usual suspects.

467 funky chicken  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:41:17pm

re: #423 OldLineTexan

now what did Neil do to you? you can tell me. i bet M&Ms likes him.

Southern Man

And his voice is pretty much nails on a blackboard

468 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:41:34pm

re: #463 OldLineTexan

albusteve and i have demoted marshall mathers aka eminem to “canadian” status

Ah. Well.

Good.

But why would you inflict him on Canada?

469 Gus  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:41:43pm

re: #462 Dianna

I’m sorry. Did the nazis depart, disconsolate?

They’re still high on Mt. Denial. //

470 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:41:44pm

re: #459 wee fury

Fatboy Slim and Christopher Walken

Second greatest music video EVER!

471 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:41:45pm

re: #393 jorline Safe for another year?! What? Two different 1,000 yard rushers, and had good ole Plaxico hadn’t shot himself in the leg well then Eli woulda had TWO receivers to go deep - but that’s why I liked our draft so far! Got a sneaky 3rd pick at Left Outside tackel, too!

472 Archimedes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:41:56pm

re: #463 OldLineTexan

albusteve and i have demoted marshall mathers aka eminem to “canadian” status

LOL

Canadian … hmm

Okay, try this one:

473 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:42:12pm

re: #467 funky chicken

Southern Man

And his voice is pretty much nails on a blackboard

sweet home alabama explains how much to worry about canadians

474 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:42:16pm

re: #466 Sharmuta

No- their friends are still hurling vitriol from their various websites. You know- the usual suspects.

Oh. Still, we shall persevere.

475 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:42:26pm

re: #427 Joo-LiZ

I think an Israelis attack on the Iranian nuclear weapons sites unlikely for several reasons, chief among them is that successfully stopping the Iranian program is highly problematic given the dispersal of assets etc… Anyone who thinks this would be a repeat of the attack on Saddam’s reactor in 1981 is simply misinformed.

476 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:42:27pm

re: #456 realwest

Heya, real. I was just hanging out to see if you dropped in. I’m doing good. How’s Charlotte treating you?

477 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:42:41pm

re: #468 Dianna

Ah. Well.

Good.

But why would you inflict him on Canada?

in steves case it appears to be revenge for neil young

478 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:42:42pm

re: #463 OldLineTexan

albusteve and i have demoted marshall mathers aka eminem to “canadian” status

hahaha!

479 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:43:00pm

re: #467 funky chicken

Southern Man

And his voice is pretty much nails on a blackboard

It may be, but I still love many of his songs.

480 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:43:21pm

re: #474 Dianna

Oh. Still, we shall persevere.

Pissing off the nazi sympathizers is fun.

481 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:43:41pm

re: #469 Gus 802

They’re still high on Mt. Denial. //

Legs wet to the knee and viewing the pyramids?

482 NY Nana  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:43:48pm

re: #427 Joo-LiZ

I will go back to the J Post and also look at Ha’aretz….but I found one on a different subject that sounds more like him on YNet and another one from Arutz Sheva….

483 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:44:21pm

re: #398 jorline
Oh yeah, he’s a real Wild Bill Hickock ok - how the fuck do you shoot yourself in the thigh?! Who carries a pistol loose in their pants pocket?
YES - Plaxico “Dead Eye” Burris. Asshole.

484 Gus  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:44:51pm

re: #481 Dianna

Legs wet to the knee and viewing the pyramids?

Yes. Although I’m starting to think they’re underwater. I’ve never seen so much denial in my life. Those people are out of their minds.

485 funky chicken  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:45:03pm

3 Doors Down is very patriotic. I didn’t know anything about them until I took my daughter to a concert of theirs. They showed this video during the concert. I was shocked.

486 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:45:21pm

re: #477 OldLineTexan

in steves case it appears to be revenge for neil young

Neil Young is a genius. I know he’s a raving moonbat, but anyone who could write After the Gold Rush deserves a lot of room.

487 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:45:21pm

re: #477 OldLineTexan

in steves case it appears to be revenge for neil young

he bailed out Lionel Trains…that was pretty cool

488 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:45:38pm

re: #439 jorline

Thanks for the video, Clapton was outstanding.

489 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:45:56pm

re: #480 Sharmuta

Pissing off the nazi sympathizers is fun.

Good.

490 jaunte  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:46:19pm

re: #487 albusteve

“A man needs a train.”
Oh wait.

491 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:46:27pm

In my top five favorite songs.

Procol Harum

492 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:46:40pm

re: #486 Dianna

Neil Young is a genius. I know he’s a raving moonbat, but anyone who could write After the Gold Rush deserves a lot of room.

genius?….he merely copied Gram Parsons and mixed it with Bob Dylan…I think not…sorry

493 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:46:49pm

Good night.

494 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:46:52pm

re: #486 Dianna

Neil Young is a genius. I know he’s a raving moonbat, but anyone who could write After the Gold Rush deserves a lot of room.

see 487 i am working with steve on this as we speak ;)

495 Archimedes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:47:01pm

re: #467 funky chicken

Southern Man

And his voice is pretty much nails on a blackboard

496 jaunte  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:47:20pm

re: #484 Gus 802

Those people are out of their minds.

And not the good kind of crazy.

497 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:47:30pm

re: #458 Dianna

Good evening!

Our guests have departed, well fed and happy.

My house is clean, including having a carpet cleaning service clean the stairs after a doggy accident.

How’s everything?

Good to see you Dianna.

498 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:47:50pm

re: #488 MrPaulRevere

Thanks for the video, Clapton was outstanding.

he was…his playing was better than ever, a major problem I have had with that guy…he elevated

499 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:47:52pm

re: #492 albusteve

genius?….he merely copied Gram Parsons and mixed it with Bob Dylan…I think not…sorry

Whatever. I would merely say he was influenced by both - and of course, Dylan rips off everyone going - and then said what he wished to say.

500 lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:47:54pm

re: #493 Occasional Reader

Good night.

Says you.

501 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:48:39pm

re: #408 OldLineTexan Yep. I don’t like - and never have liked Neil’s politics, but he has probably written more good lyrics than anyone except Bob Dylan - at least in my lifetime.
AND I LOVE the fact that he still rocks on even though he’s only 8 months older than I am and has done several TONS more dope than I ever did!

502 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:48:45pm

re: #497 jorline

Good to see you Dianna.

Good to see you. How’s everything? Are you sleeping?

503 BaseballMom57  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:49:03pm

re: #386 Sharmuta

And I always love Dr Dre in his videos- he’s a great straight man.

I agree about Dre.

My favorite is Lose Yourself. I was surprised at how much I liked the movie 8 Mile. It was a world I knew nothing about, and I couldn’t stop watching it.

504 Gus  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:49:28pm

re: #496 jaunte

And not the good kind of crazy.

For sure. Gets even crazier when you them feed of the denial. It’s like they’re empowered or something by the revelations of the Nazi associations. They even seem to have networked over this and created new alliances vis a vi the Nazis.

Weird.

505 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:49:44pm

re: #501 realwest

Yep. I don’t like - and never have liked Neil’s politics, but he has probably written more good lyrics than anyone except Bob Dylan - at least in my lifetime.
AND I LOVE the fact that he still rocks on even though he’s only 8 months older than I am and has done several TONS more dope than I ever did!

Neither one comes close to either Leonard Cohen or Townes Van Zant.

506 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:49:50pm

re: #490 jaunte

“A man needs a train.”
Oh wait.

lotsa train songs out there boy…ain’t no waitin

507 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:50:06pm

re: #482 NY Nana

I will go back to the J Post and also look at Ha’aretz….but I found one on a different subject that sounds more like him on YNet and another one from Arutz Sheva….

It sounds like Haaretz might have misinterpreted - figures:

The FM told the newspaper he does not believe Israel can tackle the Iranian nuclear threat on its own. “The most effective way (to curtail Tehran’s nuclear program) is to impose very harsh sanctions. The UN’s resolutions are insufficient. This method worked with Libya. Iran must be isolated.


That is different from saying that Israel won’t attack if they have to.
This is from this article

508 irongrampa  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:50:11pm

re: #288 realwest


When America ceases to produce men and women such as these, the country will truly cease to exist.

Until that time, she will persevere.

509 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:50:12pm

re: #483 realwest

Oh yeah, he’s a real Wild Bill Hickock ok - how the fuck do you shoot yourself in the thigh?! Who carries a pistol loose in their pants pocket?
YES - Plaxico “Dead Eye” Burris. Asshole.

He missed that part.

510 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:50:39pm

re: #503 BaseballMom57

I agree about Dre.

My favorite is Lose Yourself. I was surprised at how much I liked the movie 8 Mile. It was a world I knew nothing about, and I couldn’t stop watching it.

I wish I could ding you 100 times! I LOVE that song- very inspirational. And I do was surprised by how much I enjoyed 8 Mile. It gave me a new appreciation for his style.

511 Archimedes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:50:46pm

This singer freaks me out. Honestly, I’d not seen this until recently.

Focus- Hocus Pocus

Remind you of Primus a bit?

512 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:51:00pm

re: #471 realwest

Safe for another year?! What? Two different 1,000 yard rushers, and had good ole Plaxico hadn’t shot himself in the leg well then Eli woulda had TWO receivers to go deep - but that’s why I liked our draft so far! Got a sneaky 3rd pick at Left Outside tackel, too!

Oh, go ahead and rub it in RW.
We do enjoy dropping an occasional turd in the Giants punch bowl though…lol

513 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:51:03pm

re: #510 Sharmuta

Er- Should be “I too” not “I do”. LOL

514 jaunte  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:51:55pm

re: #504 Gus 802

They’ve decided to stay the course, and hang together.

515 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:52:47pm

re: #499 Dianna

Whatever. I would merely say he was influenced by both - and of course, Dylan rips off everyone going - and then said what he wished to say.

Dylan took some tips from Woody Guthrie then started a whole new thing…he didn’t rip off anyone…the anthology is all there if your really interested

516 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:52:51pm

re: #507 Kosh’s Shadow

That is different from saying that Israel won’t attack if they have to.
This is from this article

One more from Arutz Sheva:

Foreign Minister Lieberman also downplayed the chances of Israel carrying out a military attack on Iran to halt or destroy its nuclear program. “The most effective way is to impose very harsh sanctions. “We are not talking about a military strike. Israel cannot solve a global problem militarily.”


Again, it doesn’t seem to be ruling out military action, just saying that it might not be the best option.

517 NY Nana  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:52:54pm

re: #440 Kosh’s Shadow

The J Post has the same article…I washed my hands after reading Ha’aretz on line…it is the home of Amira Hass, and also Israel’s NYT…..feh.

518 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:53:11pm

re: #483 realwest

Oh yeah, he’s a real Wild Bill Hickock ok - how the fuck do you shoot yourself in the thigh?! Who carries a pistol loose in their pants pocket?
YES - Plaxico “Dead Eye” Burris. Asshole.

Add insult to injury…the NYPD caught the shooter and booked his ass…lmao

519 Gus  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:53:21pm

re: #514 jaunte

They’ve decided to stay the course, and hang together.

They have. This won’t be the end of it. They’re going to get hammered on this in the long run and they deserve what they’re going to get.

520 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:53:27pm

re: #443 OldLineTexan

helped

Actually, no.

Here’s the reality: The state I live in has been absolutely rock-solid Democrat territory for generations. We had a Repub gov for one term, that was it.

I voted for Bush in 2004 because I thought it was the right thing to do, though it brought Bush not one iota of advantage as far as the Electoral College is concerned. I blasted Bush when he was wrong and supported him when he was right, and nearly got disowned by my moonbat family for my pains.

I’ve disliked McCain for years, and Palin was - for me - an insult to the American voter. “Let’s see if I can pander to the worst elements of the GOP, because I’m a maverick, my poll numbers suck, and what the hell, she winked at me in our first interview - the old guy almost stood at attention.” It was a paltry move by a goofy old man, and it backfired BIG TIME.

And so I held my nose and voted for Obama. And I’ll be darned if I can see where all the screeching and shouting about “tyranny” and “we’re all gonna lose our guns/rights/minds/fortunes” is coming from, except that Beck and Coulter and Rush and Ron Paul and Alex Jones and all the other opportunistic shriekers are stirring the shit for all they’re worth and cleaning up in the process. I have zero respect for that.

And if I’m wrong I’ll eat that tricorne with mustard on it. But unless the right goes completely insane and starts a civil war, I’m betting my life, my property and my sacred honor that America will still be America in four or eight years, and we’ll get a new set of opportunists to screw us from the other end for a while.

Cynical? You betcha. I’m older than dirt and I’ve been on the merry-go-round for more years than Noah spent days and nights on the ark.

I’m a fan of Mark Twain, Kurt Vonnegut, Jonathan Swift, James Joyce, John le Carré and Rabelais, and you can’t read those guys for long and not realize that we’re on a swinging pendulum circling a circus of clowns and mountebanks, with nothing but ships full of fools on the horizon, and only our humor to keep us from falling into Poe’s pit.

To conclude, a poem:

Be Angry At The Sun
Robinson Jeffers

That public men publish falsehoods
Is nothing new. That America must accept
Like the historical republics corruption and empire
Has been known for years.

Be angry at the sun for setting
If these things anger you. Watch the wheel slope and turn,
They are all bound on the wheel, these people, those warriors.
This republic, Europe, Asia.

Observe them gesticulating,
Observe them going down. The gang serves lies, the passionate
Man plays his part; the cold passion for truth
Hunts in no pack.

You are not Catullus, you know,
To lampoon these crude sketches of Caesar. You are far
From Dante’s feet, but even farther from his dirty
Political hatreds.

Let boys want pleasure, and men
Struggle for power, and women perhaps for fame,
And the servile to serve a Leader and the dupes to be duped.
Yours is not theirs.

521 Archimedes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:53:41pm

Another great Candian band, with a very American theme:

522 Gus  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:54:05pm

Ray Charles - I Got a Woman

523 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:54:08pm

For the Eminem septics, here is Lose Yourself. Actually a pretty good song with a positive message of going for the Brass Ring.

524 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:55:54pm

re: #502 Dianna

Good to see you. How’s everything? Are you sleeping?

Just looks that way…I’m resting my face on the keyboard. ;)
/

Ambian takes care of the sleep now days.

525 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:56:22pm

re: #520 Cato the Elder

Good for you, and OK by me to be cynical.

However, if the “guns” thing eludes you, I can only assume you were asleep or out of the country from approximately 1991 to 2004.

a bitter clinger

526 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:56:23pm

re: #520 Cato the Elder

Well said.

527 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:56:28pm

re: #522 Gus 802

Ray Charles - I Got a Woman


[Video]

saw him twice but with smaller bands…awsome man….he was all stripped down R/B both times…

528 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:56:33pm

re: #439 jorline Well that’s certainly one of Eric’s best, if maybe not THE best! Great great song and playing!

529 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:57:41pm

Apparently it’s not just Filip DeWinter coming, it’s also Phillip Claeys and “several hundred Flemish Nationalists..”

530 Gus  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:57:50pm

re: #527 albusteve

saw him twice but with smaller bands…awsome man….he was all stripped down R/B both times…

Nice. He was and always will be one of the best.

531 NY Nana  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:59:33pm

re: #507 Kosh’s Shadow

That is different from saying that Israel won’t attack if they have to.
This is from this article

Take a look at this…and watch your blood pressure.! I am not the least bit surprised.

532 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:00:00pm

re: #465 albusteve

some good southern funk there…max boogie

uhhhh….they’re Dutch

533 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:00:26pm

Obama was a compliment to the American voter? Biden?

534 OldLineTexan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:00:56pm

re: #532 BignJames

uhhhh….they’re Dutch

South Holland.

535 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:03:38pm

Good night, and take good care.

536 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:04:15pm

re: #531 NY Nana

Take a look at this…and watch your blood pressure.! I am not the least bit surprised.

She’s threatening that Israel won’t get support from the Arabs against Iran, like they’re getting such support now.

537 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:05:17pm

re: #467 funky chicken

Southern Man

And his voice is pretty much nails on a blackboard


Well I’ll certainly give ya nails on a Chalkboard, but as for Southern Man, y’all gotta remember that Neil first wrote that song when Wallace was Gov of Alabama and the DEMOCRATS down here had all those Jim Crow laws.
Besides which, without Southern Man, we’d a never had:[Link: www.imeem.com…]

538 leftover54  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:05:59pm

I don’t get it…what are they singing ? A little audio would have been helpful, duh…

539 BaseballMom57  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:06:26pm

re: #459 wee fury

Fatboy Slim and Christopher Walken

I absolutely LOVE that song. The video is flipping hliarious. Walken is genius in it.

540 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:06:36pm

re: #532 BignJames

uhhhh….they’re Dutch

there are no lines or colors on a map

541 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:07:47pm

re: #476 Noam Sayin’
Hey thank you kindly Noam! Charlotte is warm tonight and was 91 during the day!
So I did my usual - laid out on a blanket under an airconditioner! LOL!
Didja get a chance to ride your scooter?

542 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:09:52pm

re: #486 Dianna
AMEN to that {Dianna} That album is one of my 10 to take to a desert Island (that has power and a killer stereo system!)!

543 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:11:01pm

re: #525 OldLineTexan

Good for you, and OK by me to be cynical.

However, if the “guns” thing eludes you, I can only assume you were asleep or out of the country from approximately 1991 to 2004.

a bitter clinger

Thanks, my friend.

As for the guns thing: I started my collection during those years. What was the upshot? I bought everything my little heart desired, all legally. The hi-cap mag restrictions weren’t retroactive, and there were plenty still on the market. And then those laws got repealed. Same for “scary” and “ugly” guns. I know the media can’t tell its ass from its mouth when it comes to firearms, I hear them all the time saying “it was a semi-automatic weapon” as if that were particularly frightening. But it doesn’t work. I live within an hour’s drive from DC and everything I own is straight-up legal and secured at my expense in a full-size Wells Fargo safe against would-be “borrowers”. Sure, you can’t by ammo right now for love or money, but that’s because the whackaloons are in full-on panic mode, as though we haven’t been there before.

Thing about pendulums is, they swing back and forth but the path they describe, absent outside impetus, actually gets smaller with time and eventually reaches stasis.

So fear not. You may hate Obama and I may despise Palin, but neither one of them is going to define America. America is what it is, a big-ass ball of contradictions and possibilities, and that’s kinda how I like it.

544 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:11:58pm

re: #520 Cato the Elder

The only “screaming” you’ll hear is at the wack-sites that you must deliberately seek out.
Most conservatives I know would be glad to explain, in very soft tones if necessary, how Obama is aiming to remake our system of Government into one that more closely meets his under-graduate brain’s idea of what works.
Pretending that all opposition to a massive overhaul of our economic system is somehow “reactionary” points out how fearful people are of actually looking at the likely results.
Read his books (I ‘m not sure if you have or not, but you don’t seem to have gotten the central message of either one of them), look at what he wants to do, look at what he has done, and look at where you think that will lead.
Do you really think that imaginary money and kisses on the cheek to dictators will solve our economic and defense woes?

545 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:12:15pm

re: #508 irongrampa
Indeed, sir, that is absolutely true.

546 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:12:56pm

re: #543 Cato the Elder

Thanks, my friend.

As for the guns thing: I started my collection during those years. What was the upshot? I bought everything my little heart desired, all legally. The hi-cap mag restrictions weren’t retroactive, and there were plenty still on the market. And then those laws got repealed. Same for “scary” and “ugly” guns. I know the media can’t tell its ass from its mouth when it comes to firearms, I hear them all the time saying “it was a semi-automatic weapon” as if that were particularly frightening. But it doesn’t work. I live within an hour’s drive from DC and everything I own is straight-up legal and secured at my expense in a full-size Wells Fargo safe against would-be “borrowers”. Sure, you can’t by ammo right now for love or money, but that’s because the whackaloons are in full-on panic mode, as though we haven’t been there before.

Thing about pendulums is, they swing back and forth but the path they describe, absent outside impetus, actually gets smaller with time and eventually reaches stasis.

So fear not. You may hate Obama and I may despise Palin, but neither one of them is going to define America. America is what it is, a big-ass ball of contradictions and possibilities, and that’s kinda how I like it.

well said and I feel a tad better reading that last part…thanks for that

547 NY Nana  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:12:59pm

re: #536 Kosh’s Shadow

She’s threatening that Israel won’t get support from the Arabs against Iran, like they’re getting such support now.

Off hand? I cannot think of one friend of Israel in Hussein’s gang…and Rahm Emanuel? I was dumb enough to expect him to be on Israel’s side.

/With ‘friends’ like Shrillary?

548 LC LaWedgie  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:13:40pm

For those who can relate:

Throughout the 60’s and 70’s, KOMA was the favorite of teens all across the western US. With the big 50,000-watt signal and the relatively few rock-n-roll radio stations across the plains, KOMA was the main station for the hits. KOMA (along with handful of other legendary stations including 890 WLS, Chicago; 1090 KAAY, Little Rock; 1060 WNOE, New Orleans; 770 WABC, New York; 800 CKLW, Windsor/Detroit; and 1100 WKYC, Cleveland) could be heard on car radios, in homes, and everywhere a kid could tune in. Often teens in New Mexico, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas, Colorado, Nebraska, and other western states would eagerly await sunset when the mighty 1520 would come booming through with the newest hits of the day. They would sit in their cars on hilltops, turn it up at parties, or fall asleep with the radio next to their beds as they listened to Chuck Berry, the Supremes, Paul Revere and the Raiders, and the Beatles. Soldiers in Viet Nam even reported tuning in KOMA to give them a little feeling of being back home.

Led through the 60’s by Program Directors Dean Johnson, Dale Wehba, and Perry Murphy, some of the best-remembered DJ’s spun the hits each day and night. Charlie Tuna, Dale Wehba, Don McGregor, Paul Miller, John David, Chuck Dann, J. Michael Wilson, Johnny Dark, Buddy Scott, John Ravencroft, and many others were among those who played the hits from the studios in Moore, Oklahoma. And everyone remembers “Yours Truly KOMA” and the “kissing tone.” This was definitely an era where radio was fun. It was more than just the music. It was a magical blend of personality, jingles, contests, and fun mixed with the greatest music that defined the era and continues to live today.

These were considered by many to be the best years of radio. And for baby boomers across the western US, KOMA was king.

549 Cato the Elder  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:16:20pm

re: #544 Lincolntf

The only “screaming” you’ll hear is at the wack-sites that you must deliberately seek out.
Most conservatives I know would be glad to explain, in very soft tones if necessary, how Obama is aiming to remake our system of Government into one that more closely meets his under-graduate brain’s idea of what works.
Pretending that all opposition to a massive overhaul of our economic system is somehow “reactionary” points out how fearful people are of actually looking at the likely results.
Read his books (I ‘m not sure if you have or not, but you don’t seem to have gotten the central message of either one of them), look at what he wants to do, look at what he has done, and look at where you think that will lead.
Do you really think that imaginary money and kisses on the cheek to dictators will solve our economic and defense woes?

Like I said, I’ve got a date with my imaginary girlfriend, and this is getting repetitive.

I’m just curious, though, why you think the word “government” deserves a capital G. I’ll read your reply tomorrow.

Bon nuit!

550 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:17:53pm

re: #520 Cato the Elder
Well it’s too late for a discussion on this, but I will agree you’ve got great literary tastes and note that you never answered my question to you at #375.
And I’m older than you are!

551 Throbert McGee  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:18:03pm

re: #281 Occasional Reader

Ran! Good flick.

Upding for making me flashback to my days as an editor at Dell Crosswords — I was introduced to the Kurosawa movie, and motivated to rent it, by seeing it used in crossword puzzles as a “harder” clue for RAN.

(“Harder” compared with defining RAN as Sprinted or Aped a cheetah or whatever.)

552 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:21:17pm

Well y’all it’s been fun but I gotta get some sleep here.
I hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

553 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 10:21:55pm

re: #549 Cato the Elder

I capitalize as appropriate. Sometimes Government gets the cap, sometimes it doesn’t. Tricky language, this English.

(If I screwed up the capitalization of something somewhere, I take full responsibility and will whip myself with wet noodles if necessary)

554 mph  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:45:37am

I’m quite sure I’ve seen this guy…

555 benk  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 2:42:38am

Awesome pics

re: #531 NY Nana

The Obama admin has slowly been turning against Israel and this is just more proof of that.

With that said, the Israeli govt. concerns me a bit with the FM first saying there is no chance of peace with Syria and then saying he’d talk with Syria “tonight” and the same flip flopping in regards to Iran and the “peace process.”


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