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During the past few decades, modern technology, with radio, TV, air travel, and satellites, has woven a network of communication which puts each part of the world in to almost instant contact with all the other parts. Yet, in spite of this world-wide system of linkages, there is, at this very moment, a general feeling that communication is breaking down everywhere, on an unparalleled scale...
— David Bohm
674 comments
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meeshlr Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:30:33pm |
Damn. I turned on FoxNews expecting RedEye and got Huckabee.
Harrumph.
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Pietr Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:31:38pm |
We have an LNDT...kick back and enjoy. Don't let that 'failure to communicate' thing bother ya'...
/white smoke...
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:31:38pm |
Snif, snif...Did we leave the antivaxers behind? Please?
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Pietr Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:32:28pm |
re: #3 Floral Giraffe
Snif, snif...Did we leave the antivaxers behind? Please?
Hey, Rosey Zebra-how are you tonight?
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gmsc Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:32:54pm |
R.I.P. Bea Arthur
May 13, 1922 – April 25, 2009
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BigPapa Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:33:45pm |
I think that Bohm's point was that even though we have all this awesome communication, it merely puts us in touch with the stupid more efficiently.
How depressing.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:34:52pm |
Happy Debt Day: Government to 'Run Out' of Cash Sunday, Earliest Ever
Debt Day comes early this year. Unfortunately, it's nothing to celebrate.
The symbolic "holiday," which falls on Sunday, marks the point in the fiscal year when government spending exceeds revenue.
In other words, the government will stop making money and start borrowing on Sunday.
And it's coming earlier than ever, according to House Minority Leader John Boehner, who's pointing to Debt Day as yet another symptom of a government he says is spending too much, borrowing too much and taxing too much. Last year's Debt Day fell more than three months later, on Aug. 5.
"All the revenue for this fiscal year will be spent as of Sunday," Boehner, R-Ohio, said. With the fiscal year ending Sept. 30, he said, "everything that happens after Sunday through ... the balance of this fiscal year is going to have to be borrowed from our kids and grandkids."
/it'll probably hit in January when they pass the TOTUS budget fiasco
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Gus 802 Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:34:53pm |
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Pietr Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:36:06pm |
re: #6 BigPapa
I think that Bohm's point was that even though we have all this awesome communication, it merely puts us in touch with the stupid more efficiently.
How depressing.
The 'stupid' our own schools created, so they'd have a nice flock of lemmings/sheep to 'follow THEIR leader...Arrrgh...
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meeshlr Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:37:44pm |
re: #6 BigPapa
Yeah. There's no way to filter out the stupid people on the internet.
That would be an application worth buying!
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Erik The Red Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:38:20pm |
Led Zeppelin sang about this in 1969. LED ZEPPELIN 1969 LIVE Communication Breakdown
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BigPapa Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:38:47pm |
re: #10 Pietr
It would seem that with all the innertube connections provided to our classrooms by the Goracle, the kids would be smarter. Doesn't seem to be happening. They get savvier with electronics, but not more intelligent.
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:39:26pm |
I do so wish, we could have a vaccine for stoopid!
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Pietr Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:39:44pm |
re: #11 meeshlr
Yeah. There's no way to filter out the stupid people on the internet.
That would be an application worth buying!
Unfortunately, the On/Off button is the only way to do that at present...software wouldn't work though! It's LOGIC based...
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gmsc Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:40:07pm |
re: #8 Gus 802
Maude
Even people who remember that show don't remember it was a spin-off from All In The Family.
Here's Cousin Maude's Visit:
Part 1:
Part 2:
Part 3:
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Erik The Red Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:40:09pm |
A young lady came home and told her Mother that her boyfriend
had proposed but she had turned him down because she found
out he was an atheist, and didn't believe in Heaven or Hell.
"Marry him anyway, dear." the Mother said. "Between the two
of us, we'll show him just how *wrong* he is."
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Gus 802 Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:40:44pm |
re: #16 Pietr
Unfortunately, the On/Off button is the only way to do that at present...software wouldn't work though! It's LOGIC based...
Sometimes I just use my hand. It's like watching a video clip of Jimmy Stewart on Youtube and using my hand to cover the comments.
//So to speak.
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Erik The Red Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:41:06pm |
Q: Who has the right of way when four cars approach
a four-way stop at the same time?
A: The pickup truck with the gun rack and the bumper
sticker saying, "Guns don't kill people. I do."
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gmsc Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:41:07pm |
re: #15 Floral Giraffe
I do so wish, we could have a vaccine for stoopid!
You think Hollywood is anti-vaccine now – just imagine their reaction if there were a vaccine for stupid!
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BlueCanuck Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:41:47pm |
I remember back in the day when calling long distance wasn't only expensive but a pain in the neck on holidays. Anybody else remember the "all circuits are busy" message?
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gmsc Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:42:31pm |
re: #20 Erik The Red
Q: Who has the right of way when four cars approach
a four-way stop at the same time?
California still has a law on the books that states that none of the 4 cars may proceed until the other 3 have gone.
Yes, this is real, and a perfect example of the thought our government puts into the laws they pass.
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gmsc Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:44:02pm |
re: #19 Gus 802
Sometimes I just use my hand. It's like watching a video clip of Jimmy Stewart on Youtube and using my hand to cover the comments.
//So to speak.
Of course, you could just click the "full screen" button so you don't see ANY comments.
;)
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Pietr Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:45:01pm |
re: #13 Floral Giraffe
Hi Pietr,
Good, and you?
Can't complain; spent today catching up on all the Zzzz's I've missed recently. I have my 'liquid refreshment' and am settled in for an LNDT...:>))
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Gus 802 Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:45:59pm |
re: #24 gmsc
Of course, you could just click the "full screen" button so you don't see ANY comments.
;)
True. I've gotten used to it though so ignoring the comments comes easy. Things have calmed down a touch since after the election. Before that it was like moonbat central. :)
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LGoPs Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:46:26pm |
re: #21 gmsc
You think Hollywood is anti-vaccine now – just imagine their reaction if there were a vaccine for stupid!
For one thing they'd have to change political parties because the Democratic party would go extinct with a vaccine for stupid.
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Opilio Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:46:33pm |
re: #17 gmsc
Even people who remember that show don't remember it was a spin-off from All In The Family.
Some of us do.
And Good Times was a spin-off from Maude
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Bobibutu Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:46:49pm |
Flu has spread to the UK and now seems to be in NZ as well. Tomorrows reports will be interesting.
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Sharmuta Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:48:01pm |
I have to wonder- if mr spencer has been reassured his euro-contacts are not neo-nazis, because they told him so and he's published this on his blog, then why hasn't he confirmed he'll speak at their event? It's not like they'd lie to him. He should have nothing to worry about, right?
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Floral Giraffe Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:48:44pm |
re: #21 gmsc
For many years, Dad commuted with a neighbor, 50+ miles each way. They invented a game, to keep them occupied for the drive. The theory was, if you drove over 100 miles a day, you were a good driver. And, as such, you got one, just one, bazooka shot a day, to take out the worst driver, that you saw., and eventually, only good drivers would be left. The difficulty, was picking out WHICH driver was the worst! I still play this, today. Today's winner was a dark blue Chevy Nova, BTW!
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Pietr Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:49:01pm |
re: #27 Gus 802
True. I've gotten used to it though so ignoring the comments comes easy. Things have calmed down a touch since after the election. Before that it was like moonbat central. :)
Have you read ANY Av_n_i posts? They're still drinking the electric kool aid! (I used the dashes, hoping to avoid invoking him)...:>))
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LGoPs Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:50:59pm |
re: #33 Pietr
Have you read ANY Av_n_i posts? They're still drinking the electric kool aid! (I used the dashes, hoping to avoid invoking him)...:>))
Whatever you do, don't repeat his name 3 times...
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Gus 802 Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:52:36pm |
re: #33 Pietr
Have you read ANY Av_n_i posts? They're still drinking the electric kool aid! (I used the dashes, hoping to avoid invoking him)...:>))
He's actually easy to ignore. He goes off on those Obamalove tangents and I almost want to say something but bite my tongue.
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Sharmuta Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:53:27pm |
re: #35 Gus 802
He's actually easy to ignore. He goes off on those Obamalove tangents and I almost want to say something but bite my tongue.
I scroll right past him Once in awhile something will pop out at me, and I'll say something, but really- he is ignorable.
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Gus 802 Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:53:34pm |
re: #31 Sharmuta
I have to wonder- if mr spencer has been reassured his euro-contacts are not neo-nazis, because they told him so and he's published this on his blog, then why hasn't he confirmed he'll speak at their event? It's not like they'd lie to him. He should have nothing to worry about, right?
Maybe he's worried because that's a good part of his audience?
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Throbert McGee Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:53:34pm |
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Bea Arthur was the owner and barmaid at a cantina on Tatooine...
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BlueCanuck Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:53:50pm |
re: #32 Floral Giraffe
I am a small town boy in a sorta, kinda way. A little complicated mind you, but the principle applies. Got my drivers license in small town and hated driving in big cities. Worst experience I ever had was when some moron decided in rush hour, on a city street (3 lanes each way) that he HAD to get onto the on ramp to the major highway NOW!1!1!1! Almost took off the front end of my compact that had me, my mother, and wife at the time. My mother heard my full repertoire of military language reserved for proper idiots. Best part was she didn't chastise me one bit.
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Pietr Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:54:08pm |
re: #34 LGoPs
Whatever you do, don't repeat his name 3 times...
I regret I have but one upding to give you for that post. Can we make it a Rotating Title? Or even an entire thread...
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tubbyhubby Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:54:20pm |
Amen. Like the brother you haven't shared a meal with in 20 years. You project a common belief system onto him. If he moves in next door, you conclude the value of your house has just gone down.
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Sharmuta Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:55:42pm |
re: #37 Gus 802
Maybe he's worried because that's a good part of his audience?
He's just trying to have it both ways again. Foot in both camps, as it were.
(If he openly embraced the nazis, his Horowitz meal ticket might go buh-bye.)
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Gus 802 Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:57:04pm |
re: #42 Sharmuta
He's just trying to have it both ways again. Foot in both camps, as it were.
(If he openly embraced the nazis, his Horowitz meal ticket might go buh-bye.)
Right. But he has. I wouldn't be caught dead with those people.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:58:18pm |
re: #42 Sharmuta
Would you be willing to proofread my submissions to the LGF cookbook? My spelling, grammar stink as well as my sentence structure sometimes too.
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gmsc Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:58:28pm |
The late Bea Arthur's 2nd most bizarre role? As the voice of the Femputer in the Futurama episode Amazon Women in the Mood.
Her most bizarre role? Well, this is tough to explain, but we'll start in the cantina from Star Wars, and go from there...
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gmsc Sat, Apr 25, 2009 11:59:06pm |
re: #38 Throbert McGee
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Bea Arthur was the owner and barmaid at a cantina on Tatooine...
Damn you! You beat me to it!
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:00:55am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:00:59am |
re: #44 Killgore Trout
Would you be willing to proofread my submissions to the LGF cookbook? My spelling, grammar stink as well as my sentence structure sometimes too.
Absolutely! If you want, I can forward it to Reine when I'm done.
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:01:03am |
Today in History, April 26th:
Highlights of this day in history: The Chernobyl nuclear accident; John Wilkes Booth, President Lincoln's assassin, killed; Guernica bombed in the Spanish Civil War; Vermont enacts same-sex civil unions; TV star Lucille Ball dies.
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:03:20am |
re: #49 gmsc
Today in History, April 26th:
Wow, nothing but tragedies listed...no good news at all.
Highlights of this day in history: The Chernobyl nuclear accident; John Wilkes Booth, President Lincoln's assassin, killed; Guernica bombed in the Spanish Civil War; Vermont enacts same-sex civil unions; TV star Lucille Ball dies.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:04:36am |
re: #49 gmsc
Today in History, April 26th:
[Video]
Highlights of this day in history: The Chernobyl nuclear accident; John Wilkes Booth, President Lincoln's assassin, killed; Guernica bombed in the Spanish Civil War; Vermont enacts same-sex civil unions; TV star Lucille Ball dies.
Guernica bombed in the Spanish Civil War. That should make Pro-Koeln happy.
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LGoPs Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:04:43am |
re: #40 Pietr
I regret I have but one upding to give you for that post. Can we make it a Rotating Title? Or even an entire thread...
I'm ambivalent on the lizard who shall not named (except in the sense that he is the only one I know that collects Studebakers). I usually ignore his posts but sometimes get angered by them and jump his shit.
On the positive side, he stays polite for the most part and that makes up for some of his lunacy.
Like you I don't want to invoke him, especially tonight because I'm conducting experiments with Iron Fist's rule and don't want to get ugly.
:)
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:05:32am |
re: #48 Sharmuta
Cool, much thanks. I always considered myself a good writer until I got to grad school. I alternate between insane verbosity and unclear conciseness, it's something I struggle with. I'll email you when I get some stuff completed.
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Floral Giraffe Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:05:49am |
re: #44 Killgore Trout
Killgore, you're just being a perfectionist. I am SURE it's fine!
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Sharmuta Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:06:22am |
re: #54 Killgore Trout
No rush. I won't get to it tonight if you emailed it now anyways- I'm fading fast.
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Sharmuta Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:06:57am |
re: #55 Floral Giraffe
It's funny, because I volunteered to be a proofreader for Volume 2 anyways.
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Floral Giraffe Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:07:18am |
re: #52 LGoPs
Like you I don't want to invoke him, especially tonight because I'm conducting experiments with Iron Fist's rule and don't want to get ugly.
:)
Now, that's funny!
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talon_262 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:07:33am |
re: #29 Opilio
Some of us do.
And Good Times was a spin-off from Maude
Norman Lear is probably the TV series spin-off king and he had a lot of hits doing it.
All In The Family spun off Maude, The Jeffersons, and Archie Bunker's Place. Maude spun off Good Times and Diff'rent Strokes spun off The Facts of Life.
While I don't particularly agree with Lear's liberalism (and the ways he brought it into his series at times), he produced some of the best shows of the 70s and 80s.
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Sharmuta Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:07:46am |
"The spirit is willing, but the flesh is bruised and spongey."
-Zap Branigan
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Floral Giraffe Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:07:59am |
re: #58 Killgore Trout Stinks
Stink, no. You do not. Mostly...
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:08:32am |
re: #49 gmsc
Today in History, April 26th:
[Video]
Highlights of this day in history: The Chernobyl nuclear accident; John Wilkes Booth, President Lincoln's assassin, killed; Guernica bombed in the Spanish Civil War; Vermont enacts same-sex civil unions; TV star Lucille Ball dies.
[Link: www.doctormacro1.info...]
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Clemente Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:08:33am |
re: #23 gmsc
California still has a law on the books that states that none of the 4 cars may proceed until the other 3 have gone.
Yes, this is real, and a perfect example of the thought our government puts into the laws they pass.
The Sacramento Protocol, I'd dub it.
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:11:13am |
re: #50 Pietr
Wow, nothing but tragedies listed...no good news at all.
I thought it was interesting that April 26th is the day Lucille Ball died, considering that Bea Arthur died on April 25th.
Wait – you consider John Wilkes Booth's shooting not good news? For that matter, the settlers who would establish Jamestown making landfall in Cape Henry, VA is also good news.
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LGoPs Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:12:18am |
re: #59 Floral Giraffe
Like you I don't want to invoke him, especially tonight because I'm conducting experiments with Iron Fist's rule and don't want to get ugly.
:)Now, that's funny!
Aw...what the hell. Avanti...Avaaanti...
AAAVAAANTIII
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:12:19am |
re: #65 gmsc
the settlers who would establish Jamestown making landfall in Cape Henry, VA is also good news.
How is the beginning of the mass oppression of the Native American supposed to be good news?
/
//also, good afternoon
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:12:47am |
re: #53 Sharmuta
I LOVE the snoo-snoo episode.
That was one of the funnier ones. I love when they find the giant hairclip, and then the giant can of TAB.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:13:40am |
re: #65 gmsc
I thought it was interesting that April 26th is the day Lucille Ball died, considering that Bea Arthur died on April 25th.
Wait – you consider John Wilkes Booth's shooting not good news? For that matter, the settlers who would establish Jamestown making landfall in Cape Henry, VA is also good news.
Ball was a cutie.
[Link: www.doctormacro1.info...]
[Link: www.doctormacro1.info...]
[Link: www.doctormacro1.info...]
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:14:58am |
re: #70 Gus 802
Ball was a cutie.
[Link: www.doctormacro1.info...]
[Link: www.doctormacro1.info...]
[Link: www.doctormacro1.info...]
..and quite a talent!
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Sharmuta Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:15:31am |
re: #69 gmsc
Another favorite line from a different episode:
"This is the worst kind of discrimination- the kind against me!"
-Bender
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talon_262 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:15:38am |
re: #67 LGoPs
Aw...what the hell. Avanti...Avaaanti...
AAAVAAANTIII
It's like we're summoning Beetlejuice or Candyman or something else evil.
Wait a minute...
/
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:15:58am |
re: #38 Throbert McGee
re: #45 gmsc
Unfortunately I can't find the clip right now on youtube, but she had a great scene in Mel Brookes "History of the World Part 1", where Mel is in line for unemployment benefits and he states his profession as a "Stand up Philosopher". I was shocked, and awed at her response.
/saw the movie after "Golden Girls" had been on the air for a couple of years.
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Fritz_Katz Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:16:14am |
Remember Cox and Forkum from the "good 'ole days"?
Cox is still doing cartoons:
___
Patient: "All my friends think I'm Crazy, Doc"
Doc: "Why don't you just kill them?"
___
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LGoPs Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:18:01am |
re: #71 Floral Giraffe
Nooo!
If he shows up I will promptly slink off to bed...
Mmmmwahahahaha.
/ Bad LGoPs...baaad LGoPs
*evil smirk*... :)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:18:06am |
re: #72 gmsc
Give me a few minutes. I have a picture I did for my girl a few months back. Helped her out with finding the perfect look.
/have to upload it to one of my picture sites.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:18:06am |
re: #72 gmsc
..and quite a talent!
[Video]
She was a pro. Song, dance, comedy, drama, TV, the big screen.
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Erik The Red Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:18:45am |
So much for 44's transparency promise. Obama, Democrats Eye Tactic to Shield Health Care Plan From GOP Opposition.
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:18:53am |
re: #65 gmsc
I thought it was interesting that April 26th is the day Lucille Ball died, considering that Bea Arthur died on April 25th.
Wait – you consider John Wilkes Booth's shooting not good news? For that matter, the settlers who would establish Jamestown making landfall in Cape Henry, VA is also good news.
I think JWBooth's death was intentional-he couldn't be allowed to talk. I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but Abe Lincoln's assasination led to a very DIFFERENT 'Reconstruction' from what he had planned. The 'Reconstruction' that came about after his death, led to a very divided and bitter country-Lincolns' plans wouldn't have.
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:19:46am |
re: #80 Erik The Red
Now that Al Franken is a Senator, does this give the Democrats a filibuster-proof majority?
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:20:03am |
re: #73 Sharmuta
Another favorite line from a different episode:
"This is the worst kind of discrimination- the kind against me!"
-Bender
My favorite Futurama line?
Fry: "So I really am important? How I feel when I'm drunk is correct?"
Nibbler: "Yes, except the Dave Matthews band does not rock."
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:21:00am |
re: #78 BlueCanuck
Give me a few minutes. I have a picture I did for my girl a few months back. Helped her out with finding the perfect look.
/have to upload it to one of my picture sites.
This should be interesting . . .
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Sharmuta Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:21:07am |
re: #83 gmsc
"If you ask me, you shouldn't care what people think." -Fry
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Throbert McGee Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:21:08am |
re: #46 gmsc
Damn you! You beat me to it!
Sorry 'bout that, but thanks for reminding me of the Femputer!
She was also known for playing Vera Charles opposite Angela Lansbury's Mame Dennis in the Broadway musical Mame. (Also in the terrible film version with Lucille Ball.)
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Floral Giraffe Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:24:01am |
re: #39 BlueCanuck
I had the great fortune/ misfortune to witness a driver cut across 6 lanes of an LA freeway to make his exit. In the process, he cut off many cars and a big rig, fully loaded. The rig jackknifed (overturned) to avoid hitting the passenger vehicle. I was able to get the passenger car's license, called it in to the CHP (Ca. Highway Patrol). The driver of the rig was not hurt. The driver of the car was deemed responsible for the accident. The rig driver sent me a thank you card. Stupid drivers seem to think a truck handles like a car. That, or they are just more important...
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:25:06am |
re: #87 Floral Giraffe
I had the great fortune/ misfortune to witness a driver cut across 6 lanes of an LA freeway to make his exit. In the process, he cut off many cars and a big rig, fully loaded. The rig jackknifed (overturned) to avoid hitting the passenger vehicle. I was able to get the passenger car's license, called it in to the CHP (Ca. Highway Patrol). The driver of the rig was not hurt. The driver of the car was deemed responsible for the accident. The rig driver sent me a thank you card. Stupid drivers seem to think a truck handles like a car. That, or they are just more important...
Hero! Congrats!
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LGoPs Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:25:19am |
re: #87 Floral Giraffe
I had the great fortune/ misfortune to witness a driver cut across 6 lanes of an LA freeway to make his exit. In the process, he cut off many cars and a big rig, fully loaded. The rig jackknifed (overturned) to avoid hitting the passenger vehicle. I was able to get the passenger car's license, called it in to the CHP (Ca. Highway Patrol). The driver of the rig was not hurt. The driver of the car was deemed responsible for the accident. The rig driver sent me a thank you card. Stupid drivers seem to think a truck handles like a car. That, or they are just more important...
Kudos for your alertness and response. And thank goodness you didn't get hurt.
:)
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:26:30am |
re: #87 Floral Giraffe
Could be worse.
Could have been a video gamer who thought that - according to AI rules - the truck is literally driving on a rail and will not budge to a small car collision.
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Floral Giraffe Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:27:28am |
re: #89 LGoPs
I was in the fast lane, nowhere NEAR it. F'wads. Truck drivers are PROFESSIONALS, and deserve our respect. And a little distance, too!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:27:42am |
re: #84 gmsc
Here it is. The center picture is the one I found for her. the bracketing pictures are the style she did for the photo shoot. I think she did quite well with what she had to work with.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:28:24am |
re: #90 laZardo
Could be worse.
Could have been a video gamer who thought that - according to AI rules - the truck is literally driving on a rail and will not budge to a small car collision.
I actually found that flight simulator improved my driving.
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Floral Giraffe Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:28:27am |
re: #91 Floral Giraffe
Well, and braking room, truth be told...
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Erik The Red Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:30:53am |
re: #92 BlueCanuck
You are up late tonight Blue. Are you gonna hang around for some fruitcup?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:31:01am |
re: #91 Floral Giraffe
I was in the fast lane, nowhere NEAR it. F'wads. Truck drivers are PROFESSIONALS, and deserve our respect. And a little distance, too!
Hell yeah. One friend tried it for a few months before quitting. I have a couple of other friends that are truck drivers. They try to tell me stories about how hard it is. I believe them without a qualm. I have spent a shit load of time on the road in two different jobs just driving cars. I am so glad that I don't drive a car at the moment. Still have my license but sometimes the traffic terrifies me.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:32:00am |
re: #93 Gus 802
Of course it does. Flying you have to be totally aware of your surroundings. Three dimensions versus two. Go figure.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:32:27am |
re: #95 Erik The Red
I might. Depends on how long the rum lasts . :)
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:33:23am |
re: #85 Sharmuta
"If you ask me, you shouldn't care what people think." -Fry
Captain Zapp Brannigan: Kif, I'm feeling the Captain's Itch.
Kif Kroker: I'll get the powder, sir.
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Al Gore: If we don't go back there and make that event happen, the entire universe will be destroyed... And as an environmentalist, I'm against that.
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Marv Albert: Ladies and gentlemen, something very strange has just occurred in this basketball match between space clowns and atomic monsters.
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Bender: Hey. Do I preach at you when you're lying stoned in the gutter?
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Nibbler: I didn't travel back in time! My people lack that ability.
Fry: But... I know you in the future! I clean your poop!
Nibbler: Quite possible. We live long and are celebrated poopers.
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mikalm Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:34:28am |
re: #87 Floral Giraffe
Thanks for doing this. I have a lot of respect for truckers, and hate seeing them in dangerous situations caused by idiot car drivers.
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Sharmuta Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:34:28am |
THIS is the happiest day of my life.
Well- except for all the other happiest days of my life, but I digress.
Hulu has Arrested Development!
If you have not seen this show- you're missing out on the funniest comedy in recent history. Shame on fox for ruining it.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:34:52am |
re: #97 BlueCanuck
Of course it does. Flying you have to be totally aware of your surroundings. Three dimensions versus two. Go figure.
It does. Been a while but I was doing it with sliders full right. ILS approaches and such. Helps to build concentration. Of course then we're talking simulation as opposed to gaming.
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:35:31am |
re: #92 BlueCanuck
Here it is. The center picture is the one I found for her. the bracketing pictures are the style she did for the photo shoot. I think she did quite well with what she had to work with.
Safari can’t open the page.
Safari could not open the page “[Link: pics.livejournal.com...] because the server is not responding.
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Sharmuta Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:36:49am |
Ron Howard- producer and Narrator for Arrested Development, and he knows good TV.
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LGoPs Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:37:16am |
Good night lizards.
If Avanti does in fact show up I'd like to leave you with a quote from Ash the Robot in the movie Alien:
''I can't lie to you about your chances...but you do have my sympathies''.
Mmmmwahahahaha
:)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:37:55am |
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:37:59am |
re: #103 gmsc
Safari can’t open the page.
Safari could not open the page “[Link: pics.livejournal.com...] because the server is not responding.
Nice, I like the one on the right.
Looks like you have a couple of quote marks at the end of the link.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:38:31am |
re: #105 LGoPs
Good night lizards.
If Avanti does in fact show up I'd like to leave you with a quote from Ash the Robot in the movie Alien:
''I can't lie to you about your chances...but you do have my sympathies''.Mmmmwahahahaha
:)
Hasta.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:38:34am |
Ahhh, it worked. Go ahead math man and click away. :)
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:39:03am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:39:50am |
re: #111 Gus 802
Nope, she works behind the scenes.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:40:25am |
re: #111 Gus 802
And I won't post her picture here because I don't have her permission.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:40:53am |
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:42:33am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:42:41am |
re: #117 Gus 802
Yeah, I may be free with my info but some people treasure theirs. She's one of them.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:44:04am |
re: #118 gmsc
I don't think so. It's kinda like photobucket in a way. Check the end of the url if there are any kind of characters that aren't letters remove them.
/like quotes.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:44:55am |
re: #120 BlueCanuck
Yeah, I may be free with my info but some people treasure theirs. She's one of them.
Understood. Considering what we deal with here at times. This being the LNDT but at other times it's like all out war especially if you consider the low criminal character of the lurkers.
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:44:55am |
re: #121 BlueCanuck
I don't think so. It's kinda like photobucket in a way. Check the end of the url if there are any kind of characters that aren't letters remove them.
/like quotes.
Network Timeout
The server at pics.livejournal.com is taking too long to respond.
The requested site did not respond to a connection request and the browser has stopped waiting for a reply.
* Could the server be experiencing high demand or a temporary outage? Try again later.
* Are you unable to browse other sites? Check the computer's network connection.
* Is your computer or network protected by a firewall or proxy? Incorrect settings can interfere with Web browsing.
* Still having trouble? Consult your network administrator or Internet provider for assistance.
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:45:23am |
re: #121 BlueCanuck
I don't think so. It's kinda like photobucket in a way. Check the end of the url if there are any kind of characters that aren't letters remove them.
/like quotes.
Nope – no quotes or anything. I'm using the link just as you gave it.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:46:08am |
re: #123 gmsc
Hmmm, I logged out and tested the link. I had no problem. Might be your ISP that's messing with you. Give me a few and I will try my other photo server.
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:46:17am |
re: #123 gmsc
Try IE, gmsc-it opened fine for me, and others...tho I don't know what browsers they're using...
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:46:48am |
re: #101 Sharmuta
THIS is the happiest day of my life.
Well- except for all the other happiest days of my life, but I digress.
I won't argue that latter point. But there doesn't seem to be much we can do about that.
So, what's the good news?
///
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:48:14am |
re: #101 Sharmuta
Hulu keeps adding shows and movies. Last night I found out they added season 2 of SG-1.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:48:17am |
re: #124 gmsc
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:48:43am |
re: #126 Pietr
Try IE
Just because I can't open a picture, there's no need to suggest committing suicide.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:48:56am |
Anyone interested in what the crazies are saying over on Glenn Beck's forum?
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:49:38am |
re: #132 freetoken
Anyone interested in what the crazies are saying over on Glenn Beck's forum?
Sounds like an invite so go for it.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:50:23am |
re: #132 freetoken
Anyone interested in what the crazies are saying over on Glenn Beck's forum?
Ron Paul!
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Floral Giraffe Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:51:52am |
Good night, Lizards of the evening. Enjoy the fruitcup, when it arrives.
Sleepy time for me.
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:51:55am |
re: #128 Erik The Red
Be back in time for fruitcup.
Later Erik...I hope to make fruitcup, but I seem to be in a Hibernation Phase...:>((
re: #131 gmsc
Just because I can't open a picture, there's no need to suggest committing suicide.
I'd never suggest that Amigo...however, if you get on my defecation list...
/white smoke...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:52:04am |
re: #135 gmsc
No that's not the girl I am seeing. That's the model she worked on for a photo shoot. She IM'ed me one night looking for some Lucille Ball pictures. The middle picture is the one we both agreed would be great to work with.
/back in February I think...
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:52:57am |
re: #137 Floral Giraffe
Good night, Lizards of the evening. Enjoy the fruitcup, when it arrives.
Sleepy time for me.
Enjoy your warm sand bed, Rosie Zebra...:>))...:>))
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:59:13am |
re: #141 gmsc
GAWWWDDD!1!1!1!1! That just killed the thread...
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:59:31am |
re: #141 gmsc
Sex and the City . . . starring Bea Arthur!
[Video]
She looked good. Pouring the Metamucil into the Martini was funny.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 12:59:55am |
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mikalm Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:02:04am |
Weird video of the week, courtesy of our friends at PuffHo:
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capitalist piglet Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:02:42am |
re: #141 gmsc
Loved it - thanks, gmsc! I'd never seen that before! She was so great, right up until the end. I'm going to miss her.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:03:46am |
re: #144 BlueCanuck
And now for some music.
[Video]/I am in an Enya mood tonight.
That's a beautiful song.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:07:03am |
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:07:42am |
re: #134 Gus 802
Ok, you forced me :-)
From the Glenn Beck 912 Project forum (which is promoted and part of the Glenn Beck empire), from the thread titled Swine Flu?
[...]IF ONE PERSON IN MY FAMILY DIES FROM THIS FLU I WILL HOLD OUR GOVERMENT RESPONSIBLE! ALL OF THEM!
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So this strain has Swine, bird and human flu. My question is, who is messing around? This has to be genetically altared. I do not believe for a second this could mutate with three different strands. I believe they are doing this in hopes of a massive breakout. That way they can fast track the "universal healthcare". If millions become sick, they would be forced to give treatment on a large scale. Who knows what else could be in this shot. Our own government is trying to kill us.
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OK, there are a few weird things going on here...3 missing vials of swine flu from the Army Lab at Fort Detrick, MD. and the fact that CNN reports this story on their website and NEVER ONCE mentions the words "swine flue" in the article! Why is that? Are they trying to cover something up?
Roger...Roger...I think we found the source of one of the ingredients in our little pandemic cocktail! [...]
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[...]Today on a positive note swine flu was found in the two states of the union that most people would not mind vanishing off the face of the earth. The ugly part is that due to lax rules at the border it has been allowed across our border. The bad part is it will probably spread across the rest of the country eventually giving Obama the ability to declare Marshall law. [...]
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Has any one noticed the Media is not talking much about this now.
Normally if 1 person any where in the world die from something like this,
they report and re-report and re-report
Bird Pig and Human viruses mixed. this is a lab creation People.
Wake UP!
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[...] Sense Porkulus Pigamus spewed change we can believe in I think he should be wide open to any and all pork jokes. Now monkey jokes I could understand
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Here we go! strap it on tight this may be the ride of our lives. I like how there are 3 strains of flu swine , avian , and human. the cdc has never seen anything like this b4. seems like there is something to this. can you imagine 5 years from know and looking back ,and this is how it all started. this seems more like a bio weapon then just some mutation. we are going to look back and remember these cases popping up here and there then wham its on your doorstep.
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Quarantines on the horizon? Depy. of Homeland Security? They said "Never let a crisis go to waste."
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Remember folks, it is fear that is running this country. I would ask you all, what would happen if this so called "pandemic" where to occur? Come on think about it.
Under the threat of a national epidemic, who would take power? What agency could possibly take away every right you have ever had? Quarantines would just be the beginning.FEMA!
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I find this just so ironically funny, how absolutely perfect would it be if Nancy Pelosi gets the Swine Flu? It would be funny on so many levels. First, because she is in fact, the Biggest "SWINE" in the United States and Second, she just absolutely adores Illegal Immigrants from Mexico and told them that they were the Most Patriotic people in America, so I would just find it hysterically funny if she were one of the victims of this new plague. NO ONE WOULD DESERVE IT MORE.
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(continued)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:09:15am |
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:09:44am |
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:11:29am |
re: #150 freetoken
It's sad that so many people can have so many fears.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:12:35am |
re: #152 gmsc
She can't be over played. PERIOD!
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:12:49am |
re: #150 freetoken
I remember my little bro loved playing as Marshall Law in that video game Tekken. It fed his Bruce Lee fanhood.
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:13:35am |
re: #150 freetoken
[...]Today on a positive note swine flu was found in the two states of the union that most people would not mind vanishing off the face of the earth. The ugly part is that due to lax rules at the border it has been allowed across our border. The bad part is it will probably spread across the rest of the country eventually giving Obama the ability to declare Marshall law. [...]
I'd say we already have Marshal law (since about 1789 I believe).
It's martial law I'd be worried about!
;)
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:14:30am |
re: #152 gmsc
Some consider this overplayed, but I think it's still a good Enya song:
[Video]
Classic.
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:17:11am |
re: #158 Gus 802
Classic.
The first time I saw the video for Orinoco Flow, I misread the title. Later, when I was asking for help finding it in a record store, I asked if they had an album with the song "Okatu No Kavango".
No one could make heads or tails of that title, obviously.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:18:48am |
re: #159 gmsc
Big difference between Gaelic and Japanese. ;)
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:20:22am |
(cont)
I always tell people that God is quietly moving his chess pieces into place. He kind of cleared his throat when liberal judges defied the voice of the people in California by that freak lightning storm that started over a thousand fires. [...]
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Haven't seen this on mainstream but 2 plague infested mice are missing from a NJ lab.
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Up until the 60's people used to be quarantined for severe communicable diseases, we did not quarantine aids patients because the homosexual community threatened to go "underground" and spread it as far and wide as possible. [...] Or perhaps this is something the Islamic fundamentalist have released thinking themselves immune because they do not eat or touch pork. [...]
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The timing of this influenza outbreak makes me wonder if this is man-made. Currently the democrats are trying to Fast Track the health care bill. This would allow them to put the bill to a vote with no debate and only need 51 yea votes to pass and become law. Maybe i'm just cynical, but our government hasn't given me a reason to trust them either. These are the people who wrecked our economy, dropped the charges against the USS Cole bombers, released top secret info on interrogations,ect.ect...
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I have been watching this story develop and I thought oh well, just another virus mostly in Mexico and a dozen cases in California and Teaxs. But the CDC just confirmed at least eight cases in New York and now two cases in Kansas. From what I understand swine flu is normally tranfered from pig to human. This virus is a combination of four differnet viruses and it seems fishy to me that its in the southwest, midwest and now the northeast spreading from human to human. I am not an alarmist but this doesn't seem natural to me and there is a possibility this is man made virus or crisis which will let FEMA take control. Pet the pig and fear the FEMA
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First a sudden international economic crisis and now a flu that even the average person knows is highly unlikely to occur naturally. Hope everyone stocked up on food and can hunker down. The government can do anything it wants in the name of public safety from a pandemic.
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Any illegals coming across the border with the flu is probably music to Obama's ears. This will help him to pass nationalized healthcare immediately because it is a "Crisis." Like all the rest of his bills. And while they are treating all of the illegals, they can get their citizenship paperwork done at the same time. Two fer one.
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I also find it strange that the new flu just happened to combine three different strains. Of course the government will watch the spread of it rather than really try to stop it. After all, it would step on too many toes to enact border controls or travel restrictions or any other serious measure.
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I'm no Biologist, but I cannot see how this can possibly be a normal mutation if it contains swine, bird, and human attack mechanisms. Airborne, so now we watch the low pressure systems and weather patterns coming out of The Great Lone Star State, and pray.
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It is a very interesting question to ask where this came from. It is highly unlikely that a flu containing strains of avian, bird, and human would just appear in the wild. The question is what form of biological terrorism did this come from?
And so on... I'm not cherry picking either, just going through the first 3 pages and pulling out quotes. There are a couple of people over there trying to put some rationality into the discussion, but they are a minority. All the quotes I lifted had positive ratings.
Remember, this is from the official Glenn Beck 912 forum. Perhaps moderators will delete those threads come Monday, but I doubt it.
Does anyone still doubt that Glenn Beck is just Ron Paul with a smiley face?
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:21:52am |
re: #159 gmsc
The first time I saw the video for Orinoco Flow, I misread the title. Later, when I was asking for help finding it in a record store, I asked if they had an album with the song "Okatu No Kavango".
No one could make heads or tails of that title, obviously.
When she was popular I didn't even need an album since she got a lot of air play on the radio stations I would listen to.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:24:55am |
re: #151 BlueCanuck
Dude, you're harshing my mellow here.
Oh... ok. Back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:25:21am |
re: #163 Sharmuta
Effin' A! Paranoia knows no ideological bounds.
What do you get when you mix airy, Enya-like music with paranoia?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:29:05am |
re: #164 freetoken
Christmas has come early. :)
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:30:01am |
So what IS the deal with this flu thing? I've been busy all day, haven't been able to read anything about it.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:31:46am |
re: #161 freetoken
And half of these people are probably anti-vaxxers.
First a sudden international economic crisis and now a flu that even the average person knows is highly unlikely to occur naturally. Hope everyone stocked up on food and can hunker down. The government can do anything it wants in the name of public safety from a pandemic.
Yep, it's all planned. The government planned the economic crisis; 911; the Swine Flu; your Comcast bill; Kosovo; UFOs; and Pearl Harbor. In fact they even planned the Lincoln assassination.
The Swine Flu is actually non-fatal. It can be fatal if you have lowered resistance from other ongoing diseases. However, it is no way death sentence if one catches the Swine Flu -- it's not a plague by any means.
Limited pandemic at the most.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:32:18am |
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:33:57am |
re: #161 freetoken
Just because he's paranoid, does it mean WE don't have enemies? The USA is hated around the world-for being powerfull, FREE, and trying to spread sanity in a mad world. We are in trouble right NOW, because our leader/leaders don't understand this-they wear rose quartz glasses. I'm considering buying a generator, a lot more canned goods, etc...it looks that bad to me. Try reading these reviews, and consider the book for reading-its called "1 second After". It doesn't have to be NK or Iran doing this-with all the technology BJClinton supplied China, does this sound unlikely?
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
I really begin to believe in Afrocitys' dreams here...
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:33:58am |
re: #168 Gus 802
And half of these people are probably anti-vaxxers.
Yep, it's all planned. The government planned the economic crisis; 911; the Swine Flu; your Comcast bill; Kosovo; UFOs; and Pearl Harbor. In fact they even planned the Lincoln assassination.
The Swine Flu is actually non-fatal. It can be fatal if you have lowered resistance from other ongoing diseases. However, it is no way death sentence if one catches the Swine Flu -- it's not a plague by any means.
Limited pandemic at the most.
The timing of Gus' revelations is too perfect. I think this is just part of the plan!
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:35:27am |
re: #168 Gus 802
Near as I can tell from the news stories, the issue right now with this variant of swine flu is that the full extent of the changes from the previous version are not known. That is, why the deaths of so many young adults? I personally wonder if the air pollution in Mexico City is contributing to the deaths, and as such the mortality rate up here could be significantly lower than down in Mexico City.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:36:24am |
re: #171 gmsc
The timing of Gus' revelations is too perfect. I think this is just part of the plan!
Hey, if it's not the plaque and tooth decay we're all going to live. ;)
I remember being in San Francisco when Tom Brokaw was saying "thousands dead."
Know what I mean?
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:37:07am |
re: #161 freetoken
Yikes!
As I indicated last week, my own PCCT (Paranoid Commercial Conspiracy Theory) holds that the Soros labs have created a new virus that selectively attacks the reasoning centers of conservative brains, thereby spreading insanity and paranoia on the political right.
We might all be crazy by this time next week, praising the renowned prophet Glenn Beck, screeching about the Nirth Certifikat, hoarding canned goods and 9mm ammo, and hanging breathlessly on every word of Alex Jones's latest news release.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:38:11am |
re: #172 freetoken
Near as I can tell from the news stories, the issue right now with this variant of swine flu is that the full extent of the changes from the previous version are not known. That is, why the deaths of so many young adults? I personally wonder if the air pollution in Mexico City is contributing to the deaths, and as such the mortality rate up here could be significantly lower than down in Mexico City.
It's one of the most densely populated cities in the world. Swine Flu in human populations is easily spread in that environment.
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:39:21am |
re: #168 Gus 802
I'm waiting on the zombie apocalypse myself. Fun times!
If I really end up turning into a flesh-eating creature though, I'm hoping it's one of these.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:40:01am |
re: #174 Shiplord Kirel
Yikes!
We might all be crazy by this time next week, praising the renowned prophet Glenn Beck, screeching about the Nirth Certifikat, hoarding canned goods and 9mm ammo, and hanging breathlessly on every word of Alex Jones's latest news release.
Btw, will somebody be so kind as to just shoot me if I start displaying these symptoms.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:40:38am |
Not saying you should ignore it though. Read through the CDC information and watch the latest video.
Wash your hands, avoid touching your mouth, eyes, and nose with your hands.
[Link: www.cdc.gov...]
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:40:54am |
re: #167 TheMatrix31
So what IS the deal with this flu thing? I've been busy all day, haven't been able to read anything about it.
Here's some catch-up reading (chronological order), courtesy of Glenn Reynolds:
Swine flu links #1
Swine flu links #2
Swine flu links #3
Swine flu links #4 (Several important links here!)
Swine flu links #5
To sum it up:
Kent Brockman: "Professor, without knowing more about this situation, would you say it's time to . . . panic?"
Professor: "Yes, I would, Kent."
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:41:32am |
re: #176 laZardo
I'm waiting on the zombie apocalypse myself. Fun times!
If I really end up turning into a flesh-eating creature though, I'm hoping it's one of these.
We're all going to die!
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:42:20am |
re: #178 Gus 802
Not saying you should ignore it though. Read through the CDC information and watch the latest video.
Wash your hands, avoid touching your mouth, eyes, and nose with your hands.
[Link: www.cdc.gov...]
And avoid ANYONE coughing or sneezing-especially into you face...:>((
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:42:26am |
re: #177 Shiplord Kirel
Fuck, maybe this zombie* apocalypse really is starting. q:
/no reference to our beloved mystery photographer intended.
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:43:53am |
18 minutes to Fruitcup...question is, will I last?
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:44:19am |
re: #181 Pietr
And avoid ANYONE coughing or sneezing-especially into you face...:>((
Indeed.
I might be going for canned foods for the next few months though. Just as a precaution. //
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funky chicken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:46:40am |
The Canadian Public Health Agency had issued a travel health notice, saying, "The Public Health Agency of Canada is tracking clusters of severe respiratory illness with deaths in Mexico."
and
(CNN) -- Twenty-two students and three teachers in New Zealand, who returned from a three-week-long language trip to Mexico, may have been infected with the swine flu virus, officials said Sunday. The suspected infections in New Zealand follow reports that a deadly new strain of the virus cropped up in more places in the United States and Mexico on Saturday.
The World Health Organization is calling the virus "a public health emergency of international concern."
The 25 students and teachers at Auckland's Rangitoto College returned to New Zealand via Los Angeles
My daughter is supposed to go on a school trip to Los Angeles next weekend. I'm leaning towards cancelling it.
There have to be tons of cases among hispanic populations in LA if that college group from New Zealand and the businessman from KS caught the flu in Mexico.
I'm sure there are tons of cases among hispanics here in the Las Vegas area too, since spring break was Apr 6-10, and lots of families go to Mexico on school breaks from here.
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:46:54am |
re: #184 Gus 802
Indeed.
I might be going for canned foods for the next few months though. Just as a precaution. //
Don't forget canned meat products-you'll need your carbs...
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:47:44am |
re: #187 littleoldlady
It's laced with Tamiflu...
...and Tamiflu is working, as noted in my links above!
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:48:07am |
re: #175 Gus 802
The reason I wondered about Mexico City's air pollution:
Swine Influenza and Severe Cases of Respiratory Illness in Mexico
[...]The majority of these cases have occurred in otherwise healthy young adults. Seasonal influenza normally affects the very young and the very old, but these age groups have not been heavily affected in Mexico based on the information above. [...]
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:48:20am |
re: #187 littleoldlady
It's laced with Tamiflu...
Good morning, littleoldlady.
Did you hear? We lost Bea Arthur to cancer yesterday.
:(
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:48:48am |
re: #187 littleoldlady
It's laced with Tamiflu...
Yay, I did it again-invoked the Littleoldlady early...
/white smoke...
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:49:09am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:49:15am |
re: #189 gmsc
WHERE do you think I got the idea from?! ;-)
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:49:19am |
re: #190 freetoken
Probably farm workers (or relatives thereof) who got into close contact with the pigs where the infection came from?
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:50:10am |
re: #191 gmsc
I did. We mourned over dinner when we heard. My daughter is addicted to Golden Girls.
/could be worse, I guess...
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:51:47am |
All this talk of the Swine Flu makes me think of Rudolf Nureyev, in his performance of, er, well, "Swine Lake":
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:52:00am |
re: #193 Gus 802
Oddly I will avoid pork.
Hah! I remember all those poor souls who ended up eating those cases of pork 'n beans they had bought for Y2K.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:52:13am |
re: #195 laZardo
That would be a reasonable hypothesis... that indeed, young adult males working in agriculture during the week come home to the city for the weekend...
Even though I live in one of the counties that has confirmed cases, I'm not very worried. If I get ill I have the luxury of just staying in bed and sleeping till I get better.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:53:05am |
re: #198 Shiplord Kirel
Hah! I remember all those poor souls who ended up eating those cases of pork 'n beans they had bought for Y2K.
We'll be OK.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:53:14am |
Good morning littleoldlady. Long time no see.
/well since last week at least. :)
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:53:30am |
re: #196 littleoldlady
I did. We mourned over dinner when we heard. My daughter is addicted to Golden Girls.
/could be worse, I guess...
Set your browser to find the text "Bea Arthur", and you'll find many touching memories, and even a few strange ones, on this thread.
(Don't miss #141, which shut down the thread for a full 5 minutes!)
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:56:31am |
re: #202 gmsc
Probably should wait until after fruitcup then... ;-)
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:58:12am |
All this swine flu talk has done nothing to dissuade me of my 'stock up on non-perishable foods, ammo and precious metals in bullion form before fleeing to a fairly remote corner of Montana' daydreams that I've been having since...well...Nov. 5th.
I'll just have to make sure it's a relatively swine-free corner of Montana.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 1:58:25am |
re: #204 littleoldlady
Going alright. Getting more exercise at least, and seeing a hell of a lot more day light. Staying up later tonight then I should be. :)
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funky chicken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:00:08am |
re: #190 freetoken
The reason I wondered about Mexico City's air pollution:
Swine Influenza and Severe Cases of Respiratory Illness in Mexico
My husband's parents lived in Mexico City for 4 years. He said the air is extremely foul--smells like sewer gas leak pretty much 24/7. Everybody has maids that dust every day because the air is full of particulate matter that is the source of the smell.
disgusting
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:00:11am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
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Buster Bunny Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:00:13am |
Ok .. cue the fruitcup ... Bunny has empty fruitcup glass on standby.
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:01:00am |
re: #210 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
Yummy! Thank you!
What do we call it? Tamifluitcup?
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:01:10am |
re: #210 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
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Buster Bunny Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:01:11am |
wow .. beaten to the draw by littleoldlady.
Fast on the draw she is. Fastest Fruitcup provider in the West.
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:01:49am |
Thankee, M'am...I did make it. Might not've if you hadn't 'magically' appeared early...Heh heh.
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:01:49am |
gmsc! :-)
OHHH! Tamifluitcup™
/very nice! :-)
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:03:00am |
re: #208 Fenway_Nation
The apocolypse wil not be televised.
/
Nope, it won't. It will probably be a black hole.
Or something.
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Stonemason Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:03:06am |
Mornin' Lil' One
Seems we only have to watch the Ninth inning this year...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:03:08am |
Mmmm fruitcup. Tanks littleoldlady. Now I will finish my drink and hit the sack. gotta get some sleep tonight/day.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:03:27am |
re: #179 gmsc
Here's some catch-up reading (chronological order), courtesy of Glenn Reynolds:
Swine flu links #1
Swine flu links #2
Swine flu links #3
Swine flu links #4 (Several important links here!)
Swine flu links #5To sum it up:
Kent Brockman: "Professor, without knowing more about this situation, would you say it's time to . . . panic?"
Professor: "Yes, I would, Kent."
Cool, thanks for the links dude!
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funky chicken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:04:07am |
And yeah, my daughter will be furious if I don't let her go to LA with her school group. But I think there have to be tons of cases of this crap among hispanics here in the Southwest since spring break just ended. I'm not sure it's worth the risk of sending her to stay in a hotel and to eat in lower end food places in LA a week from today.
If people flying from Mexico to New Zealand pretty much all got it, a whole lot of people who visited Mexico for spring break will have brought it back to LA with them.
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:04:37am |
Stonemason! :-)
I start watching in September. ;-)
/blood pressure, and all that jazz...
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Buster Bunny Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:04:43am |
I blame the decline of society on the smurfs. Sure it may just be a coincidence, but life after watching the smurfs would never be the same. People try to imitate the smurfs .. wearing blue body stockings and singing too much. And the world has been irritated ever since.
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:05:13am |
BlueCanuck! :-)
Good seeing you! Take care...
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:05:21am |
re: #222 BlueCanuck
Mmmm fruitcup. Tanks littleoldlady. Now I will finish my drink and hit the sack. gotta get some sleep tonight/day.
G'nite, Blue...enjoy some good REM time...
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:05:28am |
re: #227 Buster Bunny
I blame the decline of society on the smurfs. Sure it may just be a coincidence, but life after watching the smurfs would never be the same. People try to imitate the smurfs .. wearing blue body stockings and singing too much. And the world has been irritated ever since.
And now, for the alternative point of view, we turn to Sharmuta.
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Stonemason Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:06:11am |
re: #226 littleoldlady
I am addicted, can't hold off till September!
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:06:54am |
re: #231 gmsc
And now, for the alternative point of view, we turn to Sharmuta.
Don't! You'll awaken the Geller Monster.
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Stonemason Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:07:07am |
re: #232 Stonemason
I am addicted, can't hold off till September!
Much like my addiction to the fruit-cup!
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:07:12am |
re: #227 Buster Bunny
I blame the decline of society on the smurfs. Sure it may just be a coincidence, but life after watching the smurfs would never be the same. People try to imitate the smurfs .. wearing blue body stockings and singing too much. And the world has been irritated ever since.
You are in TROUBLE now...attacking the Smurfs in front of LoL...I can't watch...
/white smoke...
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:07:18am |
re: #225 funky chicken
But I think there have to be tons of cases of this crap among hispanics here in the Southwest since spring break just ended.
Dude...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:08:42am |
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:09:34am |
re: #208 Fenway_Nation
The apocolypse wil not be televised.
/
Home is where the hatred is, after all.
/among other things.
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:10:09am |
re: #232 Stonemason
I come from a baseball family.
/and as old as I am, I think I've had enough...
;-)
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funky chicken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:10:59am |
re: #236 freetoken
Dude...
Well...Occam's Razor and all.
kids from NY go to Mexico for a school trip, lots get sick.
kids from New Zealand go to Mexico for school trip, lots get sick
kids who go to visit family in Mexico for spring break somehow aren't going to catch this stuff and bring it back with them?
I'll know more before Friday, but ...
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:11:09am |
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Dustyvet Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:11:17am |
re: #235 Pietr
You are in TROUBLE now...attacking the Smurfs in front of LoL...I can't watch...
/white smoke...
Q: How often does a Smurf bend over?
A: Once in a blue moon.
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Gus 802 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:11:29am |
Punching out!
Good, morning, afternoon, night, etc.
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:12:00am |
Damn! Just broke my glasses.
/and I wasn't planning on a trip to The Dollar Store today...
:-(
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:12:17am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:13:31am |
re: #237 BlueCanuck
I didn't mean to shove you out the door! ;-)
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:14:13am |
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:15:00am |
G'nite gus! G'nite Blue!
/seems like I just got here
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:15:23am |
re: #249 Pietr
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
/although my CFI would disagree sometimes...
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:16:10am |
Weird music this AM...guess I'll add to it, 'Family Man'...
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Buster Bunny Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:16:15am |
re: #248 littleoldlady
I didn't mean to shove you out the door! ;-)
I just love the idea .. littleoldlady as LGF bouncer.
Sorry mate .. cant come in .. its fruitcup only nite tonight.
... But I got LGF membership ...
Yeh sorry mate .. any other night .. but its fruitcup nite tonight. A special function.
/littleoldlady tosses BlueCanuck back into reality.
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Dustyvet Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:16:41am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:19:18am |
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Dustyvet Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:19:45am |
"Cats" is the longest-running show on Broadway to date. The show romanticizes and shrouds in mystery the lives and habits of America's most popular pet. Yet, even with the lively dancing and popular songs, "Cats" doesn't seem to capture the true-to-life behavior of our feline companions. Below is a list of what "Cats" would have to do to more accurately portray the true
essence of cats.
* Audience members would enter the auditorium only to find their seats had been clawed and covered with fur.
* The antagonist in the show would be a giant vacuum cleaner.
* Sometimes the cast would perform, but sometimes not -- depending on their mood.
* Performers would leap off the stage and run up the aisles at the recorded sound of a can opener in the lobby.
* When certain audience members opened their playbills, a cast member would attempt to lay down on it.
* In the middle of a performance various cast members would curl up and go to sleep, even in the middle of a song.
* For no apparent reason, cast members would randomly run to the lobby, and then back to the stage at top speed. They would then continue as if nothing had happened.
* A special audience member would find a headless bird in his/her seat after the intermission.
* Snack bar employees would constantly be reprimanding cast members for walking on the counter.
* Open the stall door and guess who is drinking from the toilet.
* Part of the performance would include the cast climbing and shredding the theater curtains.
* The stage would be stained from someone coughing up a hairball and then eating it.
* Performers would find sand in the lobby ashtrays and -- well, we don't have to draw a picture here, do we?
* The show would need to be stopped several times to allow cast members to "bathe" themselves.
* Most of the final act would consist of the cast just staring at the audience.
* The big finale would feature a giant ball of yarn, feathers on a pole, and stray strands of dental floss.
* Theater patrons waiting outside the stage door after performances would get their legs rubbed, if they were lucky.
* Cast members would never cash their paychecks, just play with them.
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freetoken Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:20:01am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:20:02am |
re: #254 Buster Bunny
Reality sucks. But for a few hours, or more, I am an internet demigod. :)
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:20:05am |
re: #174 Shiplord Kirel
Yikes!
As I indicated last week, my own PCCT (Paranoid Commercial Conspiracy Theory) holds that the Soros labs have created a new virus that selectively attacks the reasoning centers of conservative brains, thereby spreading insanity and paranoia on the political right.We might all be crazy by this time next week, praising the renowned prophet Glenn Beck, screeching about the Nirth Certifikat, hoarding canned goods and 9mm ammo, and hanging breathlessly on every word of Alex Jones's latest news release.
I'm wondering if the European strain managed to mix in with the strain that causes fascism.
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Buster Bunny Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:22:46am |
re: #260 BlueCanuck
Reality sucks. But for a few hours, or more, I am an internet demigod. :)
Reality the way its being setup at the moment is a gun free public, with a fascist in the Whitehouse who aims to take full advantage of it.
Do I see any reason for finding any time outside reality a little more pleasant?
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Dustyvet Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:23:17am |
Once upon a time, a woman had a faithful cat. And one day, a guy ran over the cat with his horse drawn carriage. So, the man went to the old woman and said..
"I'm terribly sorry about your cat. I'd like to replace him."
"That so nice of you!" said the old woman, deeply touched.
"So how good are you at catching mice?"
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:23:32am |
Well, I'm getting tired on my own, and the Tamifluitcup™ probably isn't helping any.
Good night, all!
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gmsc Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:24:35am |
re: #265 Dustyvet
Once upon a time, a woman had a faithful cat. And one day, a guy ran over the cat with his horse drawn carriage. So, the man went to the old woman and said..
"I'm terribly sorry about your cat. I'd like to replace him."
"That so nice of you!" said the old woman, deeply touched.
"So how good are you at catching mice?"
Uncle Albert (Ed Wynn) tells that joke in Mary Poppins!
OK, trying again. Good night, all!
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:24:42am |
re: #267 gmsc
You probably should have had some of that stuff when you were sick last week!
'Night, gmsc! :-)
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:26:03am |
re: #252 littleoldlady
Morning, littleoldlady!
Phillies Schillies- anyone catch the Red Sox/Yankees this afternoon?
/Sayin' something when you look like shit and still manage to beat the Yankees by 5 runs...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:26:09am |
re: #263 Buster Bunny
I play table top RPG's (i.e. Dungeons and Dragons). That is my escape from reality, where I am the hero. Either for good or for "what's in it for me" type game. I get to do what I can't in real life. Sometimes it's a good thing in game, other times I am a real prick.
/YMMV :)
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:27:08am |
re: #262 laZardo
It's the furriest show on Broadway.
/and I watched it once. HURRR.
I saw it 3 times in London, and twice here in San Antonio. It's one play I felt was very well done, since the actors actually groom themselves, sleep, etc., when they aren't the focal piece...Very Well done!
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:27:45am |
re: #267 gmsc
Well, I'm getting tired on my own, and the Tamifluitcup™ probably isn't helping any.
Good night, all!
Sleep well, Amigo...
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Dustyvet Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:29:06am |
re: #273 Pietr
I saw it 3 times in London, and twice here in San Antonio. It's one play I felt was very well done, since the actors actually groom themselves, sleep, etc., when they aren't the focal piece...Very Well done!
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:30:39am |
re: #272 BlueCanuck
I play table top RPG's (i.e. Dungeons and Dragons). That is my escape from reality, where I am the hero. Either for good or for "what's in it for me" type game. I get to do what I can't in real life. Sometimes it's a good thing in game, other times I am a real prick.
/YMMV :)
Do you GM as well? (I started in 1978, but haven't gamed in a # of years, but I've GM'd many RPG's).
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:30:54am |
re: #277 Dustyvet
One of my most favorite songs! THANKS! :-)
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:31:08am |
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Dustyvet Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:31:42am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:32:06am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:34:04am |
re: #278 Pietr
I have tried, but most of my games end in disaster. My problem is that I want to be too realistic, and most systems don't even come close. I have been lucky though in the past decade. I have found two GM's that are fantastic story tellers. For them the most important part is the quest, rather then the rules.
/welll, most of the time.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:34:35am |
re: #282 littleoldlady
Nope...our family had a cat that would do that.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:36:17am |
Crazy links. My immune system sucks so I'm even more worried about catching this crap, lol.
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:36:32am |
re: #282 littleoldlady
I think you're confusing cats with dogs.
He isn't really, LoL. Cats have Anal glands that carry their special scent. They mark their Peeps with the head , by rubbing(head marking), and rubbing the sides of their faces on us. But, Kittehs check for the Anal gland scent as well. I raised and showed them for some years, so I've observed...:>))
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:40:53am |
re: #283 BlueCanuck
When GM'ng, you must remember that you are working in 'All God' mode, and allow for intervention (possibly by a deity,another party with clerics, etc.). But, sometimes a character gets killed and there's no way to change it. That's when you take the player separately, and cast a new character to 'hopefully' join the p[arty...
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Dustyvet Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:41:44am |
re: #286 Pietr
He isn't really, LoL. Cats have Anal glands that carry their special scent. They mark their Peeps with the head , by rubbing(head marking), and rubbing the sides of their faces on us. But, Kittehs check for the Anal gland scent as well. I raised and showed them for some years, so I've observed...:>))
Cat and a huge box...great fun...:)
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:41:55am |
re: #286 Pietr
Like the stink badger!
The stink badgers are named for the foul-smelling secretions which they can squirt from their anal glands in self-defence.
Why couldn't I have been attacked by a cinnamon bun badger!?
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:44:16am |
re: #286 Pietr
Well, at least that explains why/how they mark their territory?
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:44:50am |
re: #286 Pietr
Oh, thanks for sharing that!
/yuck ;-)
I had two cats who would sit around and watch mice walk right past their noses.
"What the heck was THAT?"
"I dunno. Cute little critter, though..."
Our current master, Valerie, let's nothing get by her. All we find are the heads when she's done!
/double yuck!
Of all the cats I've had, I don't remember having a butt-sniffer...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:45:11am |
re: #287 Pietr
Ah, yes. I learn at the feet of masters. Still it is a ruthless task. Especially when you deal with a group of potential munchkins. My current GM is a master munchkin. He breaks games and systems just for the hell of it. But that makes him an even better GM.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:46:15am |
re: #291 littleoldlady
Of all the cats I've had, I don't remember having a butt-sniffer...
Maybe they were being discreet about it.
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:47:24am |
re: #293 Fenway_Nation
Maybe they were being discreet about it.
Right. "The humans are finally asleep! Lemme see that tush of yours...!
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:47:53am |
re: #290 laZardo
Well, at least that explains why/how they mark their territory?
Boy and Girl kitteh's can also Spray, which is how actual territory marking is done. Doesn't stop the other Boys from coming around, just let's them know they're trespassing as they also mark the territory...LOL. Watching the interaction in my feral world out back has made me a bit cynical about the effeciency of territory marking...:>))
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:49:53am |
Okay, drink is finally done and I am a little drunk. Time to grab some zzz's. Good seeing all the LNDT people. Once again, thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady.
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:51:08am |
And once again...good night, BlueCanuck! :-)
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:52:25am |
re: #296 BlueCanuck
Okay, drink is finally done and I am a little drunk. Time to grab some zzz's. Good seeing all the LNDT people. Once again, thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady.
You call that drunk!? I've seen littloldlady get a bigger buzz from her own fruitcup!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:54:33am |
re: #298 Fenway_Nation
It wasn't her fruitcup. She got confuzzled with red's fruitcup.
/I used to have a Super Secret Fridge™ but after Teh One&trade was elected I gave up.
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littleoldlady Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:56:57am |
re: #298 Fenway_Nation
That's only because I'm a cheap date. ;-)
Anyway, speaking of butts...time to get mine in gear.
/besides I've kicked myself black and blue already...
I'm doing something really stupid today. (As opposed to my usual stupidity.) Painting my mother's apartment in nearly 100 degree weather in a building in which the heat is still on (by law until May 5th)!
Pray for me! :-/
Good day, ALL!™
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:58:16am |
re: #299 BlueCanuck
Looks like Blue did to the ™ symbol what I did to Keyser Sozë's name earlier...
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 2:59:16am |
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little blessing Sun, Apr 26, 2009 3:00:08am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 3:05:07am |
re: #303 little blessing
I am not here, I am sleep posting
good morning, and good night. I am now an afternoon/evening lizard. This is my Friday night.
/Okay, now I am really, really gone...
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little blessing Sun, Apr 26, 2009 3:07:33am |
re: #304 BlueCanuck
Well, I suppose lots has changed since we last "spoke". We'll have to catch up some time.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 3:11:50am |
WöñÐêr hôw mÿ nâmê wðld løøk wÏth a bunch of superflous umulauts, tildes and accent marks...
Fëñwåÿ Ñätîøn
/kick ass!
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 3:12:38am |
Well, Pietr still has beer, still would like to post, but his body& mind are saying, "do this and have a wet lap, and keyboard imprints on your forehead! So I'm out Lizard Nation...L8rs.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Apr 26, 2009 3:14:43am |
re: #306 Fenway_Nation
Hmm...if blue is gone and littleoldlady is gone and pietr is gone and gmsc is gone and gus is gone...who else is left?
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Buster Bunny Sun, Apr 26, 2009 3:18:48am |
I roll 2d20 .. apparently there are 43 Orcs .. 2 Trolls and a Green Dragon left in chat. But they are lurking and wont be discovered until you enter the room.
Oh yes .. also a mean vicious .. bile spitting bunny. But his hit points are low so be careful with him. He does 1d6 damage with his humour.
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Pietr Sun, Apr 26, 2009 3:21:35am |
re: #309 little blessing
You and I and...
OK, stop what you're thinking Fenway...or was it Lil' blessing (damn psychic flashes)? Behave, and we'll see ya' up the threads...LOL...and now I'm gone.
*pOOf*
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little blessing Sun, Apr 26, 2009 3:25:19am |
Meeting starts in 5 minutes. I still need to tidy up before I leave. So good to be back and absorbing the lizard vibes.
G'day all.
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tappin52 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 3:28:41am |
Morning folks, can you believe that so many men get paid so many millions of dollars to play baseball so badly?
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 4:23:59am |
re: #314 tappin52
Morning T-52.
Unfortunately, that's the way things are in this world of jock-worship. They're probably paid to take all those steroids, too. q;
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 4:31:31am |
QUICK QUESTION:
Anybody got Facebook?
/desperate attempt to be trendy q:
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jantjepietje Sun, Apr 26, 2009 4:58:02am |
Did anyone here see this? and what did you think?
BBC Did Darwin Kill God?
maybe a good video for the next open thread
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Rustler Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:15:45am |
Does this story touch a nerve on anyone Else?
Landlord demands dead victim’s late rent, fees
Mother gets letter imposing penalty for ‘early termination’
BY DENEEN SMITH
dsmith@kenoshanews.comWhen she opened the letter from her dead son’s former landlord this week, Danelle Eckert thought there had to be some mistake.
The letter, addressed to Eckert and to the estate of her son, Colin Byars, was demanding March and April rent, late fees and an “early termination fee” because he had left his apartment before the end of his lease. Byars, a 24-year-old teacher, was killed Feb. 21 when he was punched in the head on a Kenosha street.
“I thought they must not understand that Colin was killed. But no, they understood completely,” Eckert said.
She said the apartment’s property manager told her that they knew Byars had been killed. But the woman told Eckert the management company had been advised by their legal representative that they should go after the rent and fees.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:25:21am |
Who in the world runs a weed-whacker this early on a Sunday morning? For that matter, *any* morning? While I was hovering in the special state between dreaming and waking, I heard the sound of that infernal machine echoing along the road. I think it's the neighbors who have moved back to the country from the city for the summer. *sigh*
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SixDegrees Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:25:34am |
re: #168 Gus 802
And half of these people are probably anti-vaxxers.
Yep, it's all planned. The government planned the economic crisis; 911; the Swine Flu; your Comcast bill; Kosovo; UFOs; and Pearl Harbor. In fact they even planned the Lincoln assassination.
The Swine Flu is actually non-fatal. It can be fatal if you have lowered resistance from other ongoing diseases. However, it is no way death sentence if one catches the Swine Flu -- it's not a plague by any means.
Limited pandemic at the most.
Hard to say, but the overwrought panic being displayed in the headlines certainly suggest that you're right. I can't help but remember the dreaded Bird Flu of just a few years ago, that was supposed to wipe out everything with feathers in North America, then jump to humans and do us in as well, if you believed the reports.
So far, there have been roughly 100 confirmed deaths (a number which itself may be overblown) yet no word on how many actual cases are involved; I'd guess tens of thousands, at least, given the population density of Mexico City and their incredibly stupid belief that wearing painter's masks will somehow prevent infection.
We'll know more when cooler heads prevail, but that will take a couple of weeks as evidence is marshalled and fatality rates can actually be calculated.
The news media is increasingly sensationalistic and not disposed to let facts get in the way of a good panic. I'm taking everything they say with a grain of salt.
On the positive side, it's nice to see that world health organizations are able to so quickly identify and track outbreaks of infectious disease.
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Rustler Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:29:42am |
5 things you may not know about Bea Arthur tho some are already mentioned upthread.
1. Bea Arthur Was a Marine
Before World War II, Bea was a medical technician. She volunteered to join the US Marine Corps, becoming one of its first female recruits.
2. Bea Arthur Got Her Start in Comedy by Being a Lounge Singer
In an interview, Bea said that when she got up on stage to sign a torch song, the audience laughed at her because of her deep voice and height. The nightclub manager told her that she was in the wrong business being a lounge singer, and that she should be doing comedy instead.
3. Bea Arthur Never Had a Star on the Walk of Fame
Bea was inducted into the Television Hall of Fame a few months ago, but she never had a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame. A travesty!
She may have a shot yet, you can nominate someone for a Walk of Fame Star, but you'd have to wait five years first for a posthumous nomination.
4. Bea Arthur was in The Star Wars Holiday Special
She sang as Ackmena, the nightshift bartender in Chalmun's Cantina in Tatooine, in the much-maligned Star Wars Holiday Special of 1978.
5. Bea Arthur was the Femputer
Watch the Hulu clip at IMDb: Death by Snu Snu
In the 2001 Futurama episode, Amazon Women in the Mood, Bea was the voice of the Femputer, the leader of the man-hatin' tribe of Amazonian women. Bea has left us, but we can still hear her sentence Fry and friends to "death by snu-snu" over and over again.
Bea Arthur, rest in peace. You shall be missed.
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bloodnok Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:32:19am |
re: #322 MandyManners
Who in the world runs a weed-whacker this early on a Sunday morning? For that matter, *any* morning? While I was hovering in the special state between dreaming and waking, I heard the sound of that infernal machine echoing along the road. I think it's the neighbors who have moved back to the country from the city for the summer. *sigh*
*WHACKER*
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:33:30am |
re: #320 Rustler
Does this story touch a nerve on anyone Else?
The letter was addressed to both her and the man's estate. I can understand them wanting to pursue the money from his estate. But, I wonder if they thought that they could pull one over on a grieving mom who would pay it just to be left alone.
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Rustler Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:36:03am |
re: #327 MandyManners
Yeah likely since the extent of his estate is the final paycheck he never got to pick up due to being deceased. The worst part is the early termination/breach of contract fees they are trying to extort as well. And the rent from April when the Family had already cleaned and vacated teh Apartment as of march.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:36:51am |
re: #326 bloodnok
*WHACKER*
HA!
I got up to close my bedroom windows closed but, by the time I got the last one shut, I was wide awake.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:37:54am |
re: #328 Rustler
Yeah likely since the extent of his estate is the final paycheck he never got to pick up due to being deceased. The worst part is the early termination/breach of contract fees they are trying to extort as well. And the rent from April when the Family had already cleaned and vacated teh Apartment as of march.
The company is not trying to extort anything if they're trying to get the estate to pay up.
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lurking faith Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:46:30am |
re: #330 MandyManners
The company is not trying to extort anything if they're trying to get the estate to pay up.
I disagree. It is unlikely that they have any right to the April rent or the early termination fees.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:51:57am |
re: #331 lurking faith
I disagree. It is unlikely that they have any right to the April rent or the early termination fees.
From the article: According to the Wisconsin Department of Consumer Protection, the estate of a person who has died could be liable for unpaid rent, but not the person’s family.
I take that to mean that the company has the right to seek the rent due until the end of the lease.
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Capitalist Tool Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:55:24am |
re: #11 meeshlr
Yeah. There's no way to filter out the stupid people on the internet.
That would be an application worth buying!
Been here sooner, but took a while to get past filters...
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rightside Sun, Apr 26, 2009 5:58:27am |
re: #334 MandyManners
Thanks Mandy, I rushed through making that, as evidenced by seeing some of nan's necklace and shoulder. I did fix it, but the image is at work. I'd be happy to upload the new one, and give you the link for that instead.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:03:01am |
re: #336 rightside
Thanks Mandy, I rushed through making that, as evidenced by seeing some of nan's necklace and shoulder. I did fix it, but the image is at work. I'd be happy to upload the new one, and give you the link for that instead.
That'd be nice!
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:07:05am |
Lizard Prayer List 4/26/09
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope
Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.
Part 1 of 3:
Community issues:
Blessing and protection over all of us during these times.
Our government
Our troops
Israel
Georgia/Ossetia
Rozana Saberi: American political prisoner in Iran sentenced to 8 years in prison
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice
Thanksgivings
realwest: encouraging oncology test
Alouette: baby granddaughter Freda bat Chana home from the hospital after pneumonia
Flood waters have crested
Afrocity Brown: outpatient surgery went very well
bbuddha: mother-in-law doing much better
HoosierHoops: son Jordan deployed to Japan instead of Afghanistan & grandchild on the way
Vxbush: health issues diagnosed
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans
/cont'd
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:08:11am |
Part 2 of 3:
Health issues:
doppelganglander: son
loppyd: Brother’s knee injury and future m-i-l’s broken hip.
vagabond trader: friend’s mother fighting cancer
littleoldlady: talloldman
Pietr: Aunt Doris in hospital with poor prognosis; b-i-l Roscoe undergoing Chemotherapy
J.D.: diagnosed friend's son as having a Glioma
SummerSong: sister fell & broke her arm; she has 4 weeks to go to finish first year of nursing school.
Irish Rose: serious asthma
Uncle Rancher: 17-year-old nephew undergoing treatment for melanoma
Doppelganglander: best friend Cindy diagnosed with MS, and her sister Becky who’s worried about her
NY Nana: son-in-law’s mum, recovering from amputation
CapeCoddah: boss John R
Iron Fist: diabetes not improving
yma o hyd: glaucoma; may need surgery
ArmyWife: FIL just diagnosed with leukemia; good friend’s daughter dealing with issues.
UberInfidel67 and other Lizards who are trying to quit smoking
Chicago Blonde: friend battling cancer
doppelganglander: sister battling breast cancer but not doing so well.
Macker: health issues and treatment
Hoppes: has sick children, lost her MIL, and is very stressed
UberInfidel67: brother’s health after polyps removal
Aussiemagpie: children with health issues
Walter Cronanty: son with recurrence of leukemia & recovering from bone marrow transplant.
logboy: recovery from injuries received in combat in Iraq
gettinby: sister diagnosed with Sjogren’s Syndrome
Knitwit: niece Elizabeth has a nasty MRSA infection after orthopedic surgery
tfc3rid: gf's 89 year old grandmother (suffered a a large stroke and is in rehab) and her uncle who is suffering from throat cancer; and continued prayers for dad who has MS
Typicalwhitey: father’s undergoing tests for pancreatic cancer
MNsnowlizard: Had open heart surgery in February (35 years old) and could be facing another one
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
mikeymom: sister suffered a stroke
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain, having gone from bad to worse
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
/cont’d
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:09:06am |
Lizard Prayer List, cont’d:
Family, friend, and life situations:
loppyd: friend’s personal problems
Kawfytawk: caring for father
Teacake: emotional healing
BaseballMom57: husband’s passing; prayers for especially for their children.
ChildofMary: passing of husband, ElderZionist
US Beast: passing of mother
Lizards in need of particular career opportunities.
Vxbush: two Lizard friends dealing with big issues
Army Green since '92: post has lost three soldiers in Afghanistan; friends deploying there next week.
yma o hyd: ease the grief of friend who lost her husband of 59 years
Taqiyyotomist: strength in difficult times
FBV: that the unknowns find fulfillment
Vxbush: daughter’s financial issues
Yochanan: son in IDF
Bcgirl: sponsored child, Alia in Egypt
Wyatt Earp: Uncle Joe; prostate cancer returned
West Texas: brother’s decision
Victor_yugo: job
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: mom home from the hospital but may be regressing
A Kiwi Infidel: Natasha and her husband mourning the loss of the younger child.
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Asperger’s (mild autism)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
jcm: new 7th month foster daughter (previous foster daughter went to live with her grandma)
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: strength for kids and her dealing with EH.
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general
In Memoriam
Dublin(CA)Dude
Obi Wan
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lurking faith Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:12:22am |
re: #333 MandyManners
From the article: According to the Wisconsin Department of Consumer Protection, the estate of a person who has died could be liable for unpaid rent, but not the person’s family.
I take that to mean that the company has the right to seek the rent due until the end of the lease.
Possibly. It would depend on the terms of the lease, and the precise terms of the regulations. I can't find specifics on what happens to a Wisconsin lease when the lessee dies.
However, I still would expect that they would not have a claim on rent for April. The guy was killed in February; that should have been enough notice to terminate at the end of March.
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SixDegrees Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:13:48am |
re: #331 lurking faith
I disagree. It is unlikely that they have any right to the April rent or the early termination fees.
The estate is liable for any outstanding debts incurred by the deceased. These debts must be settled before any disbursements are made to heirs, charities, foundations and whatnot. That's the way the law works.
The way human society works - normally - is that a debt such as this would be forgiven by the landlord, with only past due rents and possible cleaning fees deducted. However, if the lease states that the full amount of the lease term must be paid, the landlord is completely within their rights to seek payment of that amount.
Skunky, perhaps, but legal.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:15:54am |
Good morning y'all - from a warm (68 degrees going up to 91 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte! Hope everyone is doing well this morning!
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:17:51am |
re: #341 goddessoftheclassroom Good morning {goddess} thank you, again, for being the Keeper of The List.
You should probably add USMC 1968 and ElderZion eac to the In Memoriam section.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:18:51am |
re: #342 lurking faith
Possibly. It would depend on the terms of the lease, and the precise terms of the regulations. I can't find specifics on what happens to a Wisconsin lease when the lessee dies.
However, I still would expect that they would not have a claim on rent for April. The guy was killed in February; that should have been enough notice to terminate at the end of March.
If the law allows the owner to collect rent until the lease is over, the company has the right.
I'm reminded of the ST:TNG episode in which an alien race insisted on adhering strictly to the contract. Shelliac?
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:21:11am |
re: #343 SixDegrees
The estate is liable for any outstanding debts incurred by the deceased. These debts must be settled before any disbursements are made to heirs, charities, foundations and whatnot. That's the way the law works.
The way human society works - normally - is that a debt such as this would be forgiven by the landlord, with only past due rents and possible cleaning fees deducted. However, if the lease states that the full amount of the lease term must be paid, the landlord is completely within their rights to seek payment of that amount.
Skunky, perhaps, but legal.
I hope his mother doesn't wind up having to retain an estate attorney. If so, I can imagine many will be willing to do it for free.
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nyc redneck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:23:36am |
re: #345 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (68 degrees going up to 91 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte! Hope everyone is doing well this morning!
hey {real}, hope this beautiful morning finds you well and happy.
speaking of the weather, i so appreciate this gorebull warming. just in one
day of 78 degree weather, the earth is awakening. leaves on the lilac bushes, bulbs bursting open, wild mustard greens sprouting in the garden,
but i have to remind myself,
that upstate we can get a snow in late may.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:23:39am |
Oh, goodness. The neighbor has started his riding mower. Why doesn't he hire a yard crew like everyone else? That way, they'd work at a reasonable hour during the week. But, he lives in the city for half the year and likes to putter around in the yard.
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sojerofgod Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:25:34am |
re: #343 SixDegrees
Having been in the business and an evil landlord, I can say that in our locality your lease would likely require 30 days notice of termination. His death would not count as notice, as it would have to be in writing which would be awkward for the lessee. The executor of his estate would have to provide it, and the clock starts from when it is received. No judge in this jurisdiction would countenance early term. fees, and would most likely rake any lawyer over the coals for attempting to collect them. His mother receiving the notice is probably no more than the fact that she is likely his executor- the landlord was not asking her to pay his bills. I suspect that was a bit of exaggeration on the part of the paper.
All that said, It was beyond stupid for the company to proceed like this. They have done tens of thousands of dollars of harm to their reputation of a few measly thousand bucks at most.
Must be a corporation: they have a pseudo-body, long arms and no brain.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:25:56am |
re: #350 nyc redneck
Hey there {nyc redneck}! Well it used to be that way, but for the last few years - since Gore won the Nobel prize, actually, we've sorta skipped over spring and gone from winter directly to summer!
How are you this morning?
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goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:25:57am |
re: #347 realwest
Good morning {goddess} thank you, again, for being the Keeper of The List.
You should probably add USMC 1968 and ElderZion eac to the In Memoriam section.
THANK YOU! I knew there were some I couldn't think of.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:26:04am |
re: #346 WriterMom
Hiya', WriterMom! Have they started mowing in your neck of the woods?
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:26:54am |
Hey y'all - this is a very funny political cartoon:
[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]
And y'all ought to also go to the previous day's caroon as well!
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:28:22am |
re: #354 goddessoftheclassroom Hey - it's not your responsibility - it is OUR collective responsibility. And IF ANY OF Y'ALL KNOW OF UPDATES TO THE LIST, PLEASE TELL GODDESS.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:28:24am |
re: #352 sojerofgod
I wonder if the letter asked HER to pay the rent. The article says the letter was addressed to both her and the estate but, it's not specific on the details.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:30:54am |
re: #352 sojerofgod
If you pay the rent through the end of the lease, can you be forced to pay early termination fees?
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:31:35am |
And how's about some Wonderful music to start the day (h/t Charles): [Link: www.imeem.com...]
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:31:49am |
re: #356 realwest
It's never ceased to amaze me about what a squabble over taxes (without representation) managed to snowball into after 230 years. q:
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:32:37am |
re: #361 laZardo LOL! Thanks for the smile laZardo! How are you today?
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UncleRancher Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:35:16am |
re: #340 goddessoftheclassroom
Thank you so very much for the help. My nephew had surgery late last week and is recovering well.
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:35:20am |
re: #362 realwest
Stinging a bit from sunburn, figuring that a swine flu pandemic at its greatest extent will involve burning corpses in the streets to halt its spread, and wondering if we have more to worry about if Obama fails in his presidency than if he succeeds.
/i.e. normal
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:35:51am |
HEY! Where is everyone? Maybe we need some of this: [Link: www.imeem.com...]
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:36:25am |
I'm taking refuge right now in the midst of a pitched battle to get The Kid to wear an Oxford cloth shirt and a tie. He hates the fabric, says it makes him itch. He says the tie chokes him. What's next--the shoes oppress his feet?!
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:37:28am |
re: #364 laZardo
Ah, you're too young to worry about such things, grasshopper!
Wait til you're an old guy like me then you won't remember what you have to worry about!
:)
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UncleRancher Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:37:44am |
re: #366 MandyManners
I'm taking refuge right now in the midst of a pitched battle to get The Kid to wear an Oxford cloth shirt and a tie. He hates the fabric, says it makes him itch. He says the tie chokes him. What's next--the shoes oppress his feet?!
When I went off to college they put a necktie on me and I couldn't move for 2 hours. I thought I was tied up.
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WriterMom Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:38:16am |
re: #366 MandyManners
I had a real problem when I was young-fabrics used to really itch me..sometimes it was the stiching, I drove my parents nuts. Sometimes the seams, or little plastic threading...maybe put it through the washer wtih fabric softner and check that there aren't any rough edges.
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sojerofgod Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:39:56am |
re: #359 MandyManners
Short answer, no. If you pay the rent through the end of the lease you can't be charged for early termination. I expect though that there was a lot more time on the lease and the mom wanted to pay through the end of March, when they vacated the premises, though I don't know when they gave notice. The landlord may very well be due April rent. Like I say, the really really stupid act on their part is to press for the extra fees from a dead man... I can not for the life of me understand why people have no sense anymore. Working for a corporation in the past though makes me think that this must be one, because people there are afraid NOT to press everything to the wall because later some moron supervisor will strut into their microcube some day and snarl, "What about this miss Binkley?! you didn't get the fees though the dates clearly show...!"
Now I work for myself and would commit seppukku (sic) before going back.
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:41:33am |
re: #368 realwest
I envy you old guys, though. You really won't live long enough (including natural causes) to see what sort of burden the previous generation passed onto us.
And I was a bit serious on the last point, too. You have so many people my age, jaded with conservatism more solidly than the hippies of ages past. One can only imagine how cynical they'll grow if liberalism is shown to fail as well.
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Capitalist Tool Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:41:38am |
re: #366 MandyManners
I'm taking refuge right now in the midst of a pitched battle to get The Kid to wear an Oxford cloth shirt and a tie. He hates the fabric, says it makes him itch. He says the tie chokes him. What's next--the shoes oppress his feet?!
That's the whole idea of men's business attire- keep you uncomfortable and edgy so you aren't lulled into a sense of well- being when surrounded by the world's most efficient predators.
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nyc redneck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:41:58am |
re: #367 WriterMom
GOOOD MORNING.
{WriterMom} hey there. hope all is well w/ you.
this is such a busy time for me. and i love it.
i'm a farm girl at heart.
btw, is your dad coming to the city this spring or summer?
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bloodnok Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:43:09am |
Morning all! Happy birthday to me (35)! Oh, and the Chernobyl disaster happened 23 years ago today. :( I guess I'm stuck with that coincidence for the rest of my days.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:43:51am |
re: #372 laZardo
Hmmm. "One can only imagine how cynical they'll grow if liberalism is shown to fail as well."
Well can ya show me one place where socialism has worked well?
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sojerofgod Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:46:10am |
re: #375 bloodnok
OMG your just a baby!
Somewhere between now and your 40th birthday you will become a sentient being. Hope you make it!
(j/k)
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:46:28am |
re: #369 UncleRancher
When I went off to college they put a necktie on me and I couldn't move for 2 hours. I thought I was tied up.
LOL!
He's worn ties for years so he should be accustomed to them.
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Capitalist Tool Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:47:05am |
re: #376 realwest
Hmmm. "One can only imagine how cynical they'll grow if liberalism is shown to fail as well."
Well can ya show me one place where socialism has worked well?
You ask them and they all say the same thing, the "oh, but" acolytes do. They always say "Oh, but it worked in Yugoslavia."
Always. I must've missed that fax...
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:47:20am |
re: #370 WriterMom
I had a real problem when I was young-fabrics used to really itch me..sometimes it was the stiching, I drove my parents nuts. Sometimes the seams, or little plastic threading...maybe put it through the washer wtih fabric softner and check that there aren't any rough edges.
Oh, I've checked his shirts over and over again. They're very soft cotton and have no rough edges or seams. He's just being ornery.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:47:31am |
re: #375 bloodnok
Hey, Happy Birthday bloodnok! and many, many more! Never mind Cherniu, er Chanerob...crap...Chernobyl you had nothing to do with it, so just enjoy your birthday!
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aggieann Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:48:16am |
re: #199 freetoken
If I get ill I have the luxury of just staying in bed and sleeping till I get better.
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. If this is anything like the 1918 outbreak, staying in bed won't be much of an option. You won't get much sleep once the cytokine storm hits.
"Flu" and "The Great Influenza" are fascinating accounts of the 1918 outbreaks.
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sojerofgod Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:49:05am |
re: #376 realwest
Sorry, but liberalism will never ever be shown to fail. no matter what.
80 million dead? So what!
untold lives ruined? No problem!
As long as power continues to accumulate to the "elite" political class and their friends in the corporate world the suffering of millions (as Lord Farquad used to say) is a "price they are willing to pay"
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:49:33am |
re: #379 Capitalist Tool
Hey, don't worry about it - so did the Yugoslavians!
How are you doing today?
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Alouette Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:50:24am |
re: #366 MandyManners
I'm taking refuge right now in the midst of a pitched battle to get The Kid to wear an Oxford cloth shirt and a tie. He hates the fabric, says it makes him itch. He says the tie chokes him. What's next--the shoes oppress his feet?!
My parents have a studio portrait of me, taken when I was about 2 years old. I was wearing a fluffy little dress with puffed sleeves, which my parents thought was so adorable, but which I remember was just scratchy and uncomfortable.
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Capitalist Tool Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:50:38am |
re: #384 realwest
Fine, sir, thank you very much, and how'd you be this bright morning?
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:50:41am |
re: #371 sojerofgod
Short answer, no. If you pay the rent through the end of the lease you can't be charged for early termination. I expect though that there was a lot more time on the lease and the mom wanted to pay through the end of March, when they vacated the premises, though I don't know when they gave notice. The landlord may very well be due April rent. Like I say, the really really stupid act on their part is to press for the extra fees from a dead man... I can not for the life of me understand why people have no sense anymore. Working for a corporation in the past though makes me think that this must be one, because people there are afraid NOT to press everything to the wall because later some moron supervisor will strut into their microcube some day and snarl, "What about this miss Binkley?! you didn't get the fees though the dates clearly show...!"
Now I work for myself and would commit seppukku (sic) before going back.
But the woman told Eckert the management company had been advised by their legal representative that they should go after the rent and fees
Maybe that's chicken-shit to lay it at the attorney's feet.
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sojerofgod Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:51:04am |
re: #382 aggieann
The scary parallels to 1919 is that then victims died usually within 24 hours from onset of symptoms, and that appears to be happening this time too.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:51:46am |
re: #383 sojerofgod
Or, as I prefer to put it, LEFTY Elites' motto is: "I've got mine, screw you!".
Admittedly a tad coarser, but the point still gets made.
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J.D. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:52:29am |
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Alouette Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:52:31am |
re: #382 aggieann
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. If this is anything like the 1918 outbreak, staying in bed won't be much of an option. You won't get much sleep once the cytokine storm hits.
"Flu" and "The Great Influenza" are fascinating accounts of the 1918 outbreaks.
I should read those books. My grandpa died in the 1918 pandemic, when my dad was just an infant.
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sojerofgod Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:53:48am |
re: #387 MandyManners
A defensive reflex.
Corporate survival instinct #1:
When called out on any controversy, deny responsibility and defer to a higher authority.
The lawyers get paid to take the hits as crapweasels. Hey, when you are what you are, be proud of it!
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Capitalist Tool Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:53:52am |
re: #387 MandyManners
But the woman told Eckert the management company had been advised by their legal representative that they should go after the rent and fees
Maybe that's chicken-shit to lay it at the attorney's feet.
No "maybe" about it.
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laZardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:54:15am |
re: #376 realwest
How about Israel?
A few lizards mentioned a few months ago that the kibbutzes(?) were about as close to actual communism as one could get. This socialism evolved into a functioning capitalistic democracy, and a state more liberal in people's rights (gays, racial and religious minorities alike) than the far-right theocracies that dominate the region.
Specifically though, for my generation, "liberalism" is embodied in the Obama administration because it stands for practically everything Bush didn't (and whether that's good or bad I'll leave to you guys.) And seeing as how Bush's administration ended up collapsing in the later years taking conservatism with it, it won't fare well for the current and successive generations if the alternatives go the same way.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:54:32am |
re: #386 Capitalist Tool
I be more or less ok, thanks! But it's gonna be tooo HOT for me - last week we were lucky to break 65, today we're going past 90 degrees.
So I'm taking my blanket and lying out on it all day...under an air conditioner!
And what's with this "sir" stuff, huh? I ain't THAT old!
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:54:32am |
re: #385 Alouette
My parents have a studio portrait of me, taken when I was about 2 years old. I was wearing a fluffy little dress with puffed sleeves, which my parents thought was so adorable, but which I remember was just scratchy and uncomfortable.
Ever since he's been claiming that button-down shirts are itchy, I've made sure to check them all. Nothing doing. He would be happy to go through life in turtle-necks, polos, T-shirts and his wife-beaters. I tell him that I understand it but, sometimes you gotta' do what you gotta' do.
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Cathypop Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:54:36am |
Happy Birthday Bloodnok! Only 35? Your life is just beginning!
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:55:38am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Happy Birthday, Bloodnok, and many happy returns!
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:56:23am |
re: #390 J.D.
Hey, hi there{J.D.} that was a scream! LOL! How are you doing today?
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:56:25am |
re: #392 sojerofgod
A defensive reflex.
Corporate survival instinct #1:
When called out on any controversy, deny responsibility and defer to a higher authority.
The lawyers get paid to take the hits as crapweasels. Hey, when you are what you are, be proud of it!
But, the attorney is not the one dealing with this distraught mother. Nor will his/her name be smeared across the paper and over the air-waves.
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Capitalist Tool Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:56:34am |
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Bloodnok Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:56:49am |
re: #397 Cathypop
Happy Birthday Bloodnok! Only 35? Your life is just beginning!
Thanks! It makes me feel good to have my age prefaced by "Only" instead of "You look good for".
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:57:18am |
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Lincolntf Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:57:20am |
Morning all.
Anything good on tap for the Sunday morning news shows?
Happy B-day, Blood.
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Bloodnok Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:58:08am |
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Cathypop Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:58:41am |
re: #405 Lincolntf
Morning all.
Anything good on tap for the Sunday morning news shows?
Happy B-day, Blood.
Gave up watching the Sunday morning shows months ago.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:59:32am |
re: #394 laZardo
Israel is unique, both in how and why it was founded. And I'm not going to be drawn into any arguments about a real President of the United States and that three card monte dealer who now inhabits the White House.
Sorry - you're gonna have to pick a fight with someone else today.
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Capitalist Tool Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:59:45am |
re: #404 MandyManners
As sojerofgod said, that's the attorney's job.
Aye, there's the rub.
Not about doing the right thing, just about what flys.
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SixDegrees Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:00:21am |
re: #349 MandyManners
I hope his mother doesn't wind up having to retain an estate attorney. If so, I can imagine many will be willing to do it for free.
I doubt there's anything an attorney could do that the mother couldn't do on her own - check the lease terms, plead with the landlord, etc.
An attorney will simply suck up more of the estate's money. I'd be certain there was a case first.
Threatening to take the story to the media (which I guess has already happened) would be my first step.
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Lincolntf Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:00:38am |
re: #409 Cathypop
It's an old, old habit of mine that I can't shake. I gave them up for a while around the election/coronation, but I'm trying to watch them again.
It's like reading the enemy playbook for the upcoming week.
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nyc redneck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:01:07am |
re: #383 sojerofgod
Sorry, but liberalism will never ever be shown to fail. no matter what.
80 million dead? So what!
untold lives ruined? No problem!As long as power continues to accumulate to the "elite" political class and their friends in the corporate world the suffering of millions (as Lord Farquad used to say) is a "price they are willing to pay"
yes, and isn't it ironic how libs pretend to care abt. people. pelosi loves to parrot
it's "for the children".
i was thinking abt. the nationalization of health care. this is going to cause a
of of suffering down the line. bureaucrats deciding, based strictly on money
dictated guide lines, who will get care. all the obots dreaming of free quality health care are going to be in for a surprise when they realize that they can be excluded from ie. a by-pass op. if they smoke or a hip replacement if they are
overweight. also old people w/ eye problems. who gives a shit. in britain elderly
people have to go blind in one eye before they get treatment for macular degeneration.
and imagine the opportunity for graft and bribery of the gov't officials who decide life and death matters for human beings.
this will be more than standing in line for a stamp at the post office.
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sojerofgod Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:01:22am |
re: #401 MandyManners
Nope, he remains one of those corporate entities that was born without a face. they seem to favor the law, don't ya know.
The person who ended up as the point-man for this fiasco will likely have their career at this firm ruined over the bad pub. Not that I feel any sympathy for them. but...
Corporate survival instinct #2:
When trouble comes, the first step is to designate a fall guy. Hopefully someone you didn't really like anyway though a friend will do just as well in a pinch.
Afterall, you gotta keep your priorities in order.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:01:58am |
re: #409 Cathypop
Hi there Cathypop! Good to see you again - how the heck are you today?
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J.D. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:02:24am |
re: #400 {realwest}
I'm doing well, thanks!
You're sounding pretty well! 90° there in April?
Planning my "little" Kentucky Derby party, which has now grown to... 50.
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Bloodnok Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:05:06am |
re: #381 realwest
re: #377 sojerofgod
re: #398 yma o hyd
re: #399 laZardo
re: #390 J.D.
re: #397 Cathypop
re: #405 Lincolntf
Well, thanks for wishing me well with all the well-wishes! Now that I have basked in my (self-induced) birthday congrats I am off to make something of the day. Er, um, but not before driving out to my sister's to (ahem) remind her it's my birthday as well. I'm not usually a ham, but I think I am excused this one day. Then back into the city and a nice 10 mile walk.
Later!
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:05:29am |
re: #417 Capitalist Tool
57?! FIFTY SEVEN? Y'all call that old?! Or old enough to be called "sir"?!
Hell, I've got you beat by about, oh, well, several years!
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zuckerlilly Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:05:55am |
RS is distorting the truth again:
The headline on JW reads:
Madeleine Albright: "Islam is maybe the most democratic religion because there is nobody between you and God. So I do not think that is something that can be used as reason not to have Muslim democracies."
But that isn't what Albright (and I'm no fan of her) actually said but:
LAWTON: Is democracy compatible with Islamic law? Can those two things come together?
Ms. ALBRIGHT: I think so. And there are actually those who argue that Islam is more democratic than other religions because there is not a hierarchical structure and you don't necessarily need a cleric of some kind to interpret God for you. But, I'm not a theologian. And I haven't turned into a religious mystic. I am a problem solver. And, so, I'm looking at it from that perspective.
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:07:27am |
re: #415 nyc redneck
yes, and isn't it ironic how libs pretend to care abt. people. pelosi loves to parrot
it's "for the children".
i was thinking abt. the nationalization of health care. this is going to cause a
of of suffering down the line. bureaucrats deciding, based strictly on money
dictated guide lines, who will get care. all the obots dreaming of free quality health care are going to be in for a surprise when they realize that they can be excluded from ie. a by-pass op. if they smoke or a hip replacement if they are
overweight. also old people w/ eye problems. who gives a shit. in britain elderly
people have to go blind in one eye before they get treatment for macular degeneration.
and imagine the opportunity for graft and bribery of the gov't officials who decide life and death matters for human beings.
this will be more than standing in line for a stamp at the post office.
Exactly!
And another thing: its becoming more and more obvious that the slogan 'its for the children' leads to a decrease in service for the adults.
Take asthma - it is of course a huge problem for the families with children who suffer with that, but as resources are limited, as they always are and always will be, this means that adults who suffer with that are not getting the medication they need.
AFAIK, adults, unless they are on state welfare, actually contribute to society ...
Oh, and as soon as one is 'elderly', forget being given effective treatment.
The only way to have it is by making a huge fuss ... and then your doctors will hate you forever.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:07:34am |
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:07:38am |
re: #420 J.D.
LOL! Isn't that almost always the way? You invite your five closest friends and they each suggest someone else and then you invite them and they each suggest someone else and...well, that's been my experience anyway!
How many do y'all figure it'll be the day of the race?
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:08:13am |
re: #411 Capitalist Tool
Aye, there's the rub.
Not about doing the right thing, just about what flys.
Well, if the money is owed, it's owed.
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Capitalist Tool Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:08:57am |
re: #422 realwest
57?! FIFTY SEVEN? Y'all call that old?! Or old enough to be called "sir"?!
Hell, I've got you beat by about, oh, well, several years!
LOL yeppers I'm havin' fun now.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:09:08am |
re: #412 SixDegrees
I doubt there's anything an attorney could do that the mother couldn't do on her own - check the lease terms, plead with the landlord, etc.
An attorney will simply suck up more of the estate's money. I'd be certain there was a case first.
Threatening to take the story to the media (which I guess has already happened) would be my first step.
An attorney would provide a buffer between the mother and the landlord.
| 431 |
rightside Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:09:31am |
re: #423 zuckerlilly
Hey madeleine, how's that North Korea thing working out, problem solver?
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:02am |
re: #416 sojerofgod
Nope, he remains one of those corporate entities that was born without a face. they seem to favor the law, don't ya know.
The person who ended up as the point-man for this fiasco will likely have their career at this firm ruined over the bad pub. Not that I feel any sympathy for them. but...
Corporate survival instinct #2:
When trouble comes, the first step is to designate a fall guy. Hopefully someone you didn't really like anyway though a friend will do just as well in a pinch.
Afterall, you gotta keep your priorities in order.
Wouldn't the person who turned it over to the attorney and followed his/her advice be seen as simply following procedure?
| 433 |
realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:05am |
re: #429 Capitalist Tool
Oh. Great. Glad I could make your day.
| 434 |
J.D. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:12am |
re: #426 realwest
50, after "regrets".
Seriously!
But it will be fun and I have a killer hat which is, after all, the most important thing.
;-)
| 435 |
SixDegrees Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:31am |
re: #430 MandyManners
An attorney would provide a buffer between the mother and the landlord.
Only worth it if the attorney will work for free. I don't know how much money is involved here, but it isn't going to be much - a few months rent. An attorney will burn through that in no time.
There are attorneys who will take such cases on a pro bono basis, but they're rare.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:12:25am |
re: #423 zuckerlilly
RS is distorting the truth again:
The headline on JW reads:
But that isn't what Albright (and I'm no fan of her) actually said but:LAWTON: Is democracy compatible with Islamic law? Can those two things come together?
Ms. ALBRIGHT: I think so. And there are actually those who argue that Islam is more democratic than other religions because there is not a hierarchical structure and you don't necessarily need a cleric of some kind to interpret God for you. But, I'm not a theologian. And I haven't turned into a religious mystic. I am a problem solver. And, so, I'm looking at it from that perspective.
That's worse than photo-shopping.
| 437 |
realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:12:38am |
re: #431 rightside
Hey madeleine, how's that North Korea thing working out, problem solver?
Hey, she didn't say she was a good problem solver, nor did she say she usually solves problems of her own making!
| 438 |
realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:13:53am |
re: #434 J.D.
AH! You got a photo of that hat or can you at least describe it?
| 439 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:14:08am |
re: #435 SixDegrees
Only worth it if the attorney will work for free. I don't know how much money is involved here, but it isn't going to be much - a few months rent. An attorney will burn through that in no time.
There are attorneys who will take such cases on a pro bono basis, but they're rare.
I bet the publicity the attorney can get for free would more than make up for lost fees.
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SixDegrees Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:15:59am |
re: #439 MandyManners
I bet the publicity the attorney can get for free would more than make up for lost fees.
Quite possible.
It's certain that the landlord will wind up losing more money over this than will be gained by collecting the rent delta.
| 441 |
sojerofgod Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:18:19am |
re: #432 MandyManners
Oh no.
Policy and procedure only protects managers from the bad acts of their employees. Never the other way around.
Which leads us to
Corporate survival instinct #3.
Always get behind the wave, never ride the crest. The first guy to sign off on an action ends up the designated fall guy.
So you see, the best action is usually none at all. Think Zero Tolerance and you have the same rules, Government edition.
| 442 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:18:24am |
re: #440 SixDegrees
Quite possible.
It's certain that the landlord will wind up losing more money over this than will be gained by collecting the rent delta.
Not just the money but, the bad publicity.
BTW, can a landlord rent out the apartment to someone else if the rent has been paid by the estate? Doesn't the estate have possession of the apartment?
| 443 |
J.D. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:18:40am |
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:19:16am |
re: #441 sojerofgod
Oh no.
Policy and procedure only protects managers from the bad acts of their employees. Never the other way around.
Which leads us toCorporate survival instinct #3.
Always get behind the wave, never ride the crest. The first guy to sign off on an action ends up the designated fall guy.
So you see, the best action is usually none at all. Think Zero Tolerance and you have the same rules, Government edition.
I don't think I would thrive in a corporate environment.
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nyc redneck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:01am |
re: #424 yma o hyd
Exactly!
And another thing: its becoming more and more obvious that the slogan 'its for the children' leads to a decrease in service for the adults.
Take asthma - it is of course a huge problem for the families with children who suffer with that, but as resources are limited, as they always are and always will be, this means that adults who suffer with that are not getting the medication they need.
AFAIK, adults, unless they are on state welfare, actually contribute to society ...
Oh, and as soon as one is 'elderly', forget being given effective treatment.
The only way to have it is by making a huge fuss ... and then your doctors will hate you forever.
hey {yma}
all we have to do is look how gov't fails in most programs it institutes.
why would health care be any different? iirc britain nationalized health care
in l948 and now it is difficult for many people to even get care.
so many people in america have fallen for the promise of being taken care of by the gov't. what fcking laugh. since when has gov't cared abt. the masses.
we are lurching toward socialism. i find it so insidious that o is using the neediness of people to manipulate them so as to corrupt the very
foundation of our country.
| 447 |
Lincolntf Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:09am |
re: #443 J.D.
Nothing says "class" like a "Ballet Pink" osprey feather, that's fer sure.
| 448 |
sojerofgod Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:44am |
| 449 |
realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:21:18am |
re: #443 J.D.
Whoa! Nice uh...hat yeah, nice hat! In black? Very nice! You will, as always, be the belle of the ball (or party!)!
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J.D. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:22:03am |
re: #447 Lincolntf
Nothing says "class" like a "Ballet Pink" osprey feather, that's fer sure.
We have ospreys here, but not the pink ones...
;-)
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:23:58am |
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ayatollah ghilmeini Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:24:27am |
Well that was fun while it lasted.
Robert Spencer has placed a note on his blog that he is NOT going to pro-Koln.
I think this whole thing has gotten way out of hand. I trust the Charles will respond to Spencer's public statement and set the record straight. It is ridculous that two of the most outspoken anti-Islamist blogs have been at daggers drown over the last few days.
Robert Spencer is not a closet fascist, he wants nothing to do with them.
Charles was absolutely right to be concerned that Spencer might got to pro-Koln. He is right they are fascists and no in the LGF community should have anything to do with them.
As I said the other night, Spencer is not going. And he is not going. We got played. Some fascist scum put a notice on their website and then confirmed it. We made a mistake and believed them, not Spencer. As was pointed out in earlier discussions, Spencer has ties to some folks in Serbian nationalist groups that frankly are troubling. It is not at all clear these groups have any ties to the other Euroneofascist groups.
In the landscape of people opposed to militant Islam, few in the US have done more than Spencer. I bet he gets far more credible death threats every year than Charles.
We got played and all of us, to the extent we were wrong about this owe Spencer thanks for setting us straight and a retraction of our accusations he was going. He is due an apology because we relied on pro-Koln for our information, not Robert Spencer. We need to buy the hatchet and go on. We don't have to like him. We accused him of associating with the most vile stripe of the new Europe and he has clearly spelled out he is not associated with these folks. This places him far more in our camp than the enemies'.
Regrettably, somewhere between Charles uncompromising personality and Spencer's tempestuousness and silence on the matter, this whole thing got blown way out of proportion.
Now it is done. Let us move on. Pakistan is falling, Iran is getting nukes, we need clarity and unity. This whole thing could have been put to bed by a simple email to Spencer and simple reply back.
In the future, I hope we can have civility and direct communication. LGF and Jihad Watch are on the same side and we should act accordingly.
| 453 |
J.D. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:26:18am |
re: #449 realwest
If only choosing the winning horse was as easy as choosing the hat!
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SixDegrees Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:27:26am |
re: #442 MandyManners
Not just the money but, the bad publicity.
BTW, can a landlord rent out the apartment to someone else if the rent has been paid by the estate? Doesn't the estate have possession of the apartment?
Messy situation. If they're trying to enforce the terms of a lease, which may state that all payments over a certain period (usually 12 months) must be paid in full, then occupancy has nothing to do with it.
In theory, the estate retains control of the property until some resolution is reached. Normally, situations like this one result in some sort of compromise: survivors, for example, are granted a certain amount of time to clear out belongings, during which time rent will still be paid. As noted earlier, even though a lease may state that all payments for the entire lease period are due, it is typical for landlords to waive such requirements under circumstances like this one. But the details are usually reached through a negotiation between creditors and the estate.
| 455 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:27:42am |
re: #452 ayatollah ghilmeini
When was his statement posted?
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:28:49am |
re: #446 nyc redneck
hey {yma}
all we have to do is look how gov't fails in most programs it institutes.
why would health care be any different? iirc britain nationalized health care
in l948 and now it is difficult for many people to even get care.
so many people in america have fallen for the promise of being taken care of by the gov't. what fcking laugh. since when has gov't cared abt. the masses.
we are lurching toward socialism. i find it so insidious that o is using the neediness of people to manipulate them so as to corrupt the very
foundation of our country.
Hiya, {nyc redneck}!
Yes - people like tobe 'taken care of', and don't look at the small print.
This 'free health care for everybody' is of course not 'free'.
Its paid for through taxation - 11% p.a. from each taxpayer. Note well - taxpayer! Those on welfare do of course not pay taxes ... but they are the biggest 'users' because they themselves do not take care of their own health.
Of course nobody should suffer unneccessarily because they can't afford medical care, but where everybody gets 'looked after', the next step is the feeling of entitlement. So some people feel entitled to get the best care as of right, without doing anything for themselves - like not drinking to such an excess that they end up in hospital ...
| 458 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:30:25am |
re: #452 ayatollah ghilmeini
...Robert Spencer is not a closet fascist, he wants nothing to do with them...
Are you speaking for him, because no where on his web site can I find a statement similar to what you are stating above.
Granted, he says he is not going, but he offers NO reason why (none I can find). Can you point me to a reason he is not going.
He has not said he want's nothing to do with them. As far as I can see, he has decided in the least that it is not in his best interest to be there, but we still don't know why.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:31:31am |
re: #454 SixDegrees
Messy situation. If they're trying to enforce the terms of a lease, which may state that all payments over a certain period (usually 12 months) must be paid in full, then occupancy has nothing to do with it.
In theory, the estate retains control of the property until some resolution is reached. Normally, situations like this one result in some sort of compromise: survivors, for example, are granted a certain amount of time to clear out belongings, during which time rent will still be paid. As noted earlier, even though a lease may state that all payments for the entire lease period are due, it is typical for landlords to waive such requirements under circumstances like this one. But the details are usually reached through a negotiation between creditors and the estate.
The family cleaned out the apartment in March.
The fact is that this man had no money beyond his paycheck. If there's no money, there's nothing to negotiate.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:32:32am |
re: #452 ayatollah ghilmeini Nope, sorry.
We got played and all of us, to the extent we were wrong about this owe Spencer thanks for setting us straight and a retraction of our accusations he was going. He is due an apology because we relied on pro-Koln for our information, not Robert Spencer. We need to buy the hatchet and go on.
Spencer could have and should have said immediately that he was not going. And you are entirely disregarding all of the hostile comments about Charles made by Spencer and by commenters on Spencer's site.
I'd like you to post that comment of yours when Charles is up and awake and see how he answers it.
Especially the e-mail part. And as you very well know this is not the first time Spencer has been "associated" with the White Nationalists or Neo-Nazi's.
Frankly, I find that post to be totally out of character for you.
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:33:24am |
re: #455 MandyManners
When was his statement posted?
Hiya, {Mandy}!
It was posted at 12.49am.
I went and had a quick look.
He's again obfuscating the real point - and is still defending that German neonazi.
But no, he's not going.
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SixDegrees Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:34:36am |
re: #459 MandyManners
The family cleaned out the apartment in March.
The fact is that this man had no money beyond his paycheck. If there's no money, there's nothing to negotiate.
Then it's problem solved. The estate has no money to pay the rent or lease with, so they take a loss. Debt doesn't extend to anyone other than the deceased - other family members aren't liable, and there is no way to make them pay. The only exception would be if a living person were a co-signer on the lease, in which case they would be as liable as all the deceased.
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:34:38am |
re: #458 Walter L. Newton
Are you speaking for him, because no where on his web site can I find a statement similar to what you are stating above.
Granted, he says he is not going, but he offers NO reason why (none I can find). Can you point me to a reason he is not going.
He has not said he want's nothing to do with them. As far as I can see, he has decided in the least that it is not in his best interest to be there, but we still don't know why.
He's also still defending that Rouhs.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:34:40am |
re: #461 yma o hyd
Hey, good afternoon {yma}! Hope you're feeling ok today - or at least better!
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aggieann Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:36:23am |
re: #446 nyc redneck
hey {yma}
all we have to do is look how gov't fails in most programs it institutes.
why would health care be any different?
Exactly. Do we really want the organization responsible for the DMV also to be responsible for our medical treatment?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:36:31am |
re: #461 yma o hyd
Hiya, {Mandy}!
It was posted at 12.49am.
I went and had a quick look.He's again obfuscating the real point - and is still defending that German neonazi.
But no, he's not going.
But ayatollah ghilmeini in his comment says "...Robert Spencer is not a closet fascist, he wants nothing to do with them..."
NO, no where on Robert's web site does he say he wants nothing to do with them.
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:36:36am |
re: #464 realwest
Hey, good afternoon {yma}! Hope you're feeling ok today - or at least better!
Hiya, {rw}!
Just tired ...
I hope you are feeling well, and enjoying the Spring weather.
Here, its grey, damp, and cool.
Well, its April - and I want a proper, warm rain, not this cold itsy-bitsy drizzle!
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:37:03am |
re: #461 yma o hyd
"It was posted at 12.49am." Which time zone?
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:37:20am |
Here's a recommendation for everyone:
"Dial F for Frankenstein" --by Arthur C. Clarke.
This was the short story that was read by Tim Berners-Lee when he was a child. The seed was planted. He was inspired to create the world wide web.
However, the story, which first appeared in the New Yorker, I believe, is all about this "monster" we've created in its infant form--which may be, in fact, the source of that uneasy feeling that it has begun to destroy us.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:37:23am |
re: #462 SixDegrees
Then it's problem solved. The estate has no money to pay the rent or lease with, so they take a loss. Debt doesn't extend to anyone other than the deceased - other family members aren't liable, and there is no way to make them pay. The only exception would be if a living person were a co-signer on the lease, in which case they would be as liable as all the deceased.
I hope a lot of people take the most important lesson from this situation: GET A WILL!
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:38:22am |
re: #461 yma o hyd
Hiya, {Mandy}!
It was posted at 12.49am.
I went and had a quick look.He's again obfuscating the real point - and is still defending that German neonazi.
But no, he's not going.
I remember his e-mail to Walter. In it, he tried to be cute but, his intentions were pretty clear to me.
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ayatollah ghilmeini Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:38:48am |
Please reload Jihadwatch:
Meanwhile, I am not going to the Cologne conference, contrary to Johnson's claims; still, however, he is trying to defame me with it. From here is the claim that I am "defending" Manfred Rouhs of Pro-Köln, whom Johnson claims is a Nazi, because I posted his pro-Israel statement here. (You know you're in Johnson's Bizarro world when posting a pro-Israel statement gets you accused of being a Nazi.) Rouhs, says Johnson, is a Nazi who sells Nazi literature at his website -- and therefore I must be a crypto-Nazi, right? (Buckley's sage advice to Gore Vidal comes to mind at this point.)
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SixDegrees Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:38:57am |
re: #470 MandyManners
I hope a lot of people take the most important lesson from this situation: GET A WILL!
Absolutely. They're cheap and easy to have prepared.
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:39:10am |
re: #466 Walter L. Newton
But ayatollah ghilmeini in his comment says "...Robert Spencer is not a closet fascist, he wants nothing to do with them..."
NO, no where on Robert's web site does he say he wants nothing to do with them.
Yep - one gets the feeling that he's not going because of the stink raised, but not because he wants to draw the line at associating with neonazis.
One also gets the feeling that he prefers to accuse Charles of everything and anything instead of taking a long cold look at the facts.
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zuckerlilly Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:39:40am |
re: #431 rightside
Oh fine, since the Carter mission we are friends and only Bush made a mess of it.
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:40:05am |
re: #468 realwest
"It was posted at 12.49am." Which time zone?
Eastern USA, I guess.
Certainly not GMT!
;-)
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Lincolntf Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:40:20am |
re: #465 aggieann
I say essentially the same thing whenever my Obamite in-laws talk about "Universal Health Care" being a right.
Are public schools better than private ones? Is public housing better than owning a home? Are public beaches nicer than private ones? Do you have more freedom in a private automoblile or on a public bus?
Depending on the Government, particularly one as hyper-Leftist as this one, is never the better option.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:41:13am |
re: #472 ayatollah ghilmeini
Meanwhile, I am not going to the Cologne conference, contrary to Johnson's claims; still, however, he is trying to defame me with it. From here is the claim that I am "defending" Manfred Rouhs of Pro-Köln, whom Johnson claims is a Nazi, because I posted his pro-Israel statement here. (You know you're in Johnson's Bizarro world when posting a pro-Israel statement gets you accused of being a Nazi.) Rouhs, says Johnson, is a Nazi who sells Nazi literature at his website -- and therefore I must be a crypto-Nazi, right? (Buckley's sage advice to Gore Vidal comes to mind at this point.)
You said...
"...Robert Spencer is not a closet fascist, he wants nothing to do with them..."
Where above does he say "he wants nothing to do with them?"
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ayatollah ghilmeini Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:41:36am |
re: #466 Walter L. Newton
Accurately quoting a neonazi can be done in civil peaceful discourse without being one yourself. I have quoted, Hitler, Stalin and Mao over the years but would gladly, were a time machine available, put a bullet in any one of them.
People can read too much into things.
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:41:55am |
re: #476 yma o hyd
Oh, ok - hard for me to get used to this always being on Pacific time as it is!
Oh and btw, please check your e-mail.
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lazardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:42:29am |
re: #477 Lincolntf
Are public schools better than private ones? Is public housing better than owning a home? Are public beaches nicer than private ones? Do you have more freedom in a private automoblile or on a public bus?
Depending on the Government, particularly one as hyper-Leftist as this one, is never the better option.
For the first three, expect the "No, because there isn't enough money being directed to it." For the last one, the answer is more like "For now."
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:43:04am |
re: #469 katemaclaren
Here's a recommendation for everyone:
"Dial F for Frankenstein" --by Arthur C. Clarke.
This was the short story that was read by Tim Berners-Lee when he was a child. The seed was planted. He was inspired to create the world wide web.
However, the story, which first appeared in the New Yorker, I believe, is all about this "monster" we've created in its infant form--which may be, in fact, the source of that uneasy feeling that it has begun to destroy us.
Until your post, I'd never heard of Tim Berners-Lee. Interesting man.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:43:26am |
re: #474 yma o hyd
Yep - one gets the feeling that he's not going because of the stink raised, but not because he wants to draw the line at associating with neonazis.
One also gets the feeling that he prefers to accuse Charles of everything and anything instead of taking a long cold look at the facts.
And it seems ayatollah ghilmeini has NO ANSWER for my question. This is a scam, a diversion, he is still support a whole bunch of people associated with that conference.
I can tear this apart in a larger way, it ayatollah ghilmeini wants to continue to yank us, but, I prefer not to dirty up LGF with quotes from JW. But I will.
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:45:07am |
re: #482 MandyManners
He IS! He, along with Vint Cerf, have made possible this revolution in communication-which definitely has made our lives.___...well? Fill in the blank, here!
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:45:12am |
re: #460 realwest
Nope, sorry.
Spencer could have and should have said immediately that he was not going. And you are entirely disregarding all of the hostile comments about Charles made by Spencer and by commenters on Spencer's site.
I'd like you to post that comment of yours when Charles is up and awake and see how he answers it.
Especially the e-mail part. And as you very well know this is not the first time Spencer has been "associated" with the White Nationalists or Neo-Nazi's.
Frankly, I find that post to be totally out of character for you.
Its the comments Spencer has been and is still making about Charles which I find extremely disappointing.
He seems to be blinded to the fact that he was and still is defending, if not associating with, neonazis - in order to attack Charles.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:45:14am |
re: #479 ayatollah ghilmeini
Accurately quoting a neonazi can be done in civil peaceful discourse without being one yourself. I have quoted, Hitler, Stalin and Mao over the years but would gladly, were a time machine available, put a bullet in any one of them.
People can read too much into things.
Well, Charles has been reading "too much into things" for months and months.
*snort*
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:45:59am |
re: #479 ayatollah ghilmeini
Accurately quoting a neonazi can be done in civil peaceful discourse without being one yourself. I have quoted, Hitler, Stalin and Mao over the years but would gladly, were a time machine available, put a bullet in any one of them. People can read too much into things.
Yea, and I think you did. The above comment DOES NOT EVEN ADDRESS MY QUESTION. I will try AGAIN. You stated in your comment above...
"...Robert Spencer is not a closet fascist, he wants nothing to do with them..."
Where, I will speak slowly, w h e r e, does Robert say he is not going because he wants nothing to do with them. W h e r e does he give any reason for not attending.
I think you are speaking for him here.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:46:21am |
re: #484 katemaclaren
He IS! He, along with Vint Cerf, have made possible this revolution in communication-which definitely has made our lives.___...well? Fill in the blank, here!
Fuller. More aware. Busier. More hectic. Less dependent on the biased MFM.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:47:03am |
re: #473 SixDegrees
Absolutely. They're cheap and easy to have prepared.
Unless yours is loaded up with trusts!
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aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:49:03am |
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!
It's snowing in the Snowy Mountains and the Victorian Alps, meaning it's COLD here in Sydney tonight...winter is coming :-(
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ayatollah ghilmeini Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:51:11am |
re: #460 realwest
Realwest
I do consider myself much more aligned with LGF than Spencer. The comments from Spencer supporters are going to support Spencer. Based on bad information, we accused a guy of going to a sewer to conduct Ratus Norweigicus Symphony Orchestra.
Spencer is not perfect but we are treating him as though he is a card carrying Vlaam Belanger and he has publicly disassociated himself from pro-Koln.
re: #478 Walter L. Newton
He said that his quoting someone was being used to accuse him of being part of that. He certainly indicates he deems the association to be negative.
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Lincolntf Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:52:19am |
re: #481 lazardo
You're right. The "more money" canard is their fallback position. Of course, they live near DC where each class of 25 kids receives upwards of a quarter million dollars a year, based on the per pupil expenditures. With that kind of cash, every single kid could be sent to a far superior private school, receive a much better education and ultimately save the Gov't millions and millions of dollars. But of course, it's never really about the kids, it's always about the Libs and their petty little fiefdoms.
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:53:07am |
re: #479 ayatollah ghilmeini
Accurately quoting a neonazi can be done in civil peaceful discourse without being one yourself. I have quoted, Hitler, Stalin and Mao over the years but would gladly, were a time machine available, put a bullet in any one of them.
People can read too much into things.
To be sure, quoting neonazis doesn't mean one is a neonazi.
Defending these people, in spite of facts available, is another thing.
Spencer says that because the German Interior Ministry has removed Rouhs' from their 'far right' watchlist he can't be a neonazi ...
Doesn't that reasoning somehow stick in your craw?
Yes, one can read too much into things - but these associations have been going on for some time now, its not just about this one conference.
Spencer is basically refusing to check them out himself because he has locked himself into 'feud-mode' with Charles.
(I won't speculate about the reasons for that.)
Unfortunately, the comments to his posts, for some time now, have been sliding towards neofascism as well.
It is all very disappointing.
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:54:06am |
re: #480 realwest
Oh, ok - hard for me to get used to this always being on Pacific time as it is!
Oh and btw, please check your e-mail.
Done that - and back at you, re e-mail!
;-)
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:54:07am |
re: #490 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!
It's snowing in the Snowy Mountains and the Victorian Alps, meaning it's COLD here in Sydney tonight...winter is coming :-(
How do Aussies manage Christmas in the middle of summer? Do kids think it's strange that Santa wears heavy clothing and boots?
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:55:50am |
re: #490 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!
It's snowing in the Snowy Mountains and the Victorian Alps, meaning it's COLD here in Sydney tonight...winter is coming :-(
When I first moved to Sydney, there was NO heater in my beautiful house in West Pymble. The neighbors said "No worries. It doesn't get cold here!" hahahahahaha. The first winter, I was wearing a lot of "jumpers," let me tell you!
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:56:19am |
re: #495 MandyManners
How do Aussies manage Christmas in the middle of summer? Do kids think it's strange that Santa wears heavy clothing and boots?
We ate tuna fish sandwiches on the beach!
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:57:56am |
Santa wears "stubbies" --I think I remember correctly, and sandals!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:57:58am |
re: #491 ayatollah ghilmeini
Waht ever. Twice you do not answer my question. You have taken what you believe Spencer thinks and projected it here.
Like I said, no where does Spencer give anyone any reason why he is not going. He doesn't say "the conference organizers are lying," or "I changed my mind after learning something that bothered me" or "what conference," no, nothing.
It looks like he is trying to do damage control (IMHO). And you are helping him (IMHO).
You won't answer, you're wasting my time.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:58:06am |
re: #497 katemaclaren
We ate tuna fish sandwiches on the beach!
Decorate palm trees instead of firs?
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:58:08am |
re: #487 Walter L. Newton
Good morning Walter. I want to know who is it that is posting as ayatollah ghilmeini and what have they done with the real person.
This is TOTALLY out of character for ayatollah ghilmeini who has been here since the first contra-jihad conference concerning which Charles MERELY posted a caution to the good guy contra-jihadists to not let themselves be tied in with the White Nationalists/Neo-Nazi's, lest those Neo-Nazi's use that association to burnish their own images. Spencer tried to stay above that fight - or at least out of it, but since then has really been anti-Charles, and anti-LGF (and anti-some LGF posters by name) as well.
And "He certainly indicates he deems the association to be negative." as ayatollah ghilmeini posted in #491 is just begging the question - as Spencer did in his e-mail response to you - all that matters is that they are contra-jihadist, whatever else they may be involved in doesn't concern Spencer.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:58:36am |
re: #498 katemaclaren
Santa wears "stubbies" --I think I remember correctly, and sandals!
That makes sense.
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:58:49am |
re: #490 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!
It's snowing in the Snowy Mountains and the Victorian Alps, meaning it's COLD here in Sydney tonight...winter is coming :-(
Hiya, {aussiemagpie}!
Snow ... winter ... thats not something one would naturally associate with your glorious country!
I say its glorious - never been there, but I read nearly all of Arthur W. Upfield's detective novels. He does describe the wonders of the landscape of your fantastic continent so very well!
I still dream of going there and seeing it for myself.
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:59:36am |
re: #490 aussiemagpie
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!
It's snowing in the Snowy Mountains and the Victorian Alps, meaning it's COLD here in Sydney tonight...winter is coming :-(
I miss Pavlova. Badly.
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:01:01am |
re: #500 MandyManners
They had these scraggy looking "fir" trees to decorate. Many of my more artistic friends used a tree sculpture to decorate. My die hard Brit friends (whinging poms) had roast beef and the whole English Christmas fare complete with steaming puddings...arrrgh.
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:02:06am |
re: #503 yma o hyd
If you go to Oz, buy some Aeroguard, right, Aussiemagpie? ;-)
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:03:33am |
re: #505 katemaclaren
They had these scraggy looking "fir" trees to decorate. Many of my more artistic friends used a tree sculpture to decorate. My die hard Brit friends (whinging poms) had roast beef and the whole English Christmas fare complete with steaming puddings...arrrgh.
It must be difficult for some people to adapt.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:04:20am |
re: #495 MandyManners
How do Aussies manage Christmas in the middle of summer? Do kids think it's strange that Santa wears heavy clothing and boots?
Hi, we manage summer Christmas very well...just like our northern friends we eat a lot, get together with family, laze around (the pool), give presents, and sing carols and we have Christmas trees, and Santa is dressed in heavy clothing and boots just like up north
Kids would think it strange if Santa turned up in board shorts...
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:04:56am |
re: #506 katemaclaren
If you go to Oz, buy some Aeroguard, right, Aussiemagpie? ;-)
Ahem - are ye still living in Oz?
I wanna see the Gibber Plains.
I wanna see the huge meteorite crater in the NW.
I wanna see the Nullarbor Plain.
And thats without even thinking of the rugby ...
(Aeroguard? Whats that when its at home?)
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kynna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:05:10am |
Morning all! Just watched the Liz Cheney smack down of MSNBC's Nora O'Donnell. LOL. Now this is the way people need to debate. :D
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:06:05am |
re: #490 aussiemagpie
Hey there {aussie}! *Smooch* - hope you'll be able to stay warm tonight - we're going up to 91 degrees here in North Carolina today!
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Lincolntf Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:06:36am |
re: #490 aussiemagpie
Hi Aussie. I was hoping one of you Down Under folks would show up while I still remembered to mention this. I read the funniest "News of the Weird"-type of story the other day. Some well regarded public figure in Australia appealed a speeding ticket (lying about where he was in order to escape a measly 70 dollar fine) and a newspaper dogged him about his misleading testimony, ultimately resulting in them discovering that he had been a fraud all of his life. Do you happen to know this story? If you do, what field was the guy in? They mentioned that he was "highly respected" and maybe even had been awarded some National medal for his work.
Shoulda paid the fine, dingleberry!
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:06:54am |
re: #503 yma o hyd
There was a good TV series made based on these books.I think it was called "Boney." Now that I think of it, it reminds me of the detective novels here that are set, I think, in Arizona with the native-American protagonist. Hmmm.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:07:01am |
re: #508 aussiemagpie
Hi, we manage summer Christmas very well...just like our northern friends we eat a lot, get together with family, laze around (the pool), give presents, and sing carols and we have Christmas trees, and Santa is dressed in heavy clothing and boots just like up north
Kids would think it strange if Santa turned up in board shorts...
Are kangaroos or koala bears featured any?
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:07:30am |
re: #510 kynna
I'm sure that there's no transcript available yet, but could y'all please sorta summarize the "debate"?!
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:07:53am |
re: #501 realwest
Good morning Walter. I want to know who is it that is posting as ayatollah ghilmeini and what have they done with the real person.
This is TOTALLY out of character for ayatollah ghilmeini who has been here since the first contra-jihad conference concerning which Charles MERELY posted a caution to the good guy contra-jihadists to not let themselves be tied in with the White Nationalists/Neo-Nazi's, lest those Neo-Nazi's use that association to burnish their own images. Spencer tried to stay above that fight - or at least out of it, but since then has really been anti-Charles, and anti-LGF (and anti-some LGF posters by name) as well.
And "He certainly indicates he deems the association to be negative." as ayatollah ghilmeini posted in #491 is just begging the question - as Spencer did in his e-mail response to you - all that matters is that they are contra-jihadist, whatever else they may be involved in doesn't concern Spencer.
These "blind" answers from ayatollah ghilmeini is the same kind of "blind" answers you get from Spencer.
It's easy to deny any association with anyone if you play the "see no evil" card, and that is what Spencer (and ayatollah ghilmeini) is doing.
And that is what Spencer has been doing all along. Spencer states that the Rouhs's book selection is not Nazi related. Ok, let's assume that (I looked the list over). First, much of the material he is selling is socialist crap, and material by holocaust deniers and jew haters. Just because a book doesn't have a swastika on it doesn't mean it doesn't contain material that is of interest, and supportive of a Nazi mindset.
And that is exactly what Rouhs's book selection consists of. It's actually clever. We don't sell Nazi books, we just sell books that speaks to Nazi's.
A sham on Rouhs's part and I can't believe Spencer is not aware of the material and authors on that book list. Did Robert even look at the page? There are books listed there that Spencer has railed against in the past, on his own website. Finklestein, Chompsky, Moore. Come on Robert, READ THE DAMN PAGE.
No, this is all damage control on Spencer's part, and it seems that ayatollah ghilmeini is a happy helper.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:07:56am |
re: #496 katemaclaren
When I first moved to Sydney, there was NO heater in my beautiful house in West Pymble. The neighbors said "No worries. It doesn't get cold here!" hahahahahaha. The first winter, I was wearing a lot of "jumpers," let me tell you!
LOL! It's strange thinking here, as if it's warm all year round which is not true in Sydney!
It's jumper weather tonight for sure...
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:08:04am |
re: #508 aussiemagpie
I can remember all the Christmas cards with santa on a surfboard, in his, well, speedo! The sled pulled by rein-roos! or emus!
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:09:14am |
re: #515 realwest
I'm sure that there's no transcript available yet, but could y'all please sorta summarize the "debate"?!
As the old papertowel commercial went
Nora "whimpy whimpy whimpy"
Lynn "HEFTY HEFTY HEFTY'
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kynna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:10:51am |
re: #515 realwest
I'm sure that there's no transcript available yet, but could y'all please sorta summarize the "debate"?!
Sorry! *blushes*
I realized after I posted that I forgot the link to the video.
It's re: waterboarding and Cheney takes O'Donnell to the woodshed every time she tries to spin. It's pretty masterful. I hope she plans to stay involved, because we need people like her.
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DisturbedEma Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:11:05am |
re: #520 sattv4u2
As the old papertowel commercial went
Nora "whimpy whimpy whimpy"
Lynn "HEFTY HEFTY HEFTY'
It was garbage bags. . .:)
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:11:51am |
re: #513 katemaclaren
There was a good TV series made based on these books.I think it was called "Boney." Now that I think of it, it reminds me of the detective novels here that are set, I think, in Arizona with the native-American protagonist. Hmmm.
Aww - that series played when we had no TV set ...
I love his books, and that detective, Napoleon Bonaparte, is really something else.
That Arizona detective you're thinking of - gah, can't recall his name, but the writer was Tony Hillerman. That was one fantastic little series!
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Lincolntf Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:12:13am |
re: #519 katemaclaren
Ooh, that's even worse than I'd thought. I figured he had to be a bureaucrat of some type, but a Judge? That's icing on the cake.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:12:56am |
re: #503 yma o hyd
Hiya, {aussiemagpie}!
Snow ... winter ... thats not something one would naturally associate with your glorious country!
I say its glorious - never been there, but I read nearly all of Arthur W. Upfield's detective novels. He does describe the wonders of the landscape of your fantastic continent so very well!
I still dream of going there and seeing it for myself.
Hello {yma o hyd}
Australia certainly is a land of contrasts - we have tropical rain forests, deserts, snowfields, and everything in between!
I loved Upfield's novels, now I've got the urge to read them again!
Come on down! :-)
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:13:44am |
re: #517 aussiemagpie
LOL! It's strange thinking here, as if it's warm all year round which is not true in Sydney!
It's jumper weather tonight for sure...
I hope you've sorted out your blankets, polar fleece tops, and above all laid in a good selection of hot-water-bottles!
:-))
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kynna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:13:48am |
re: #520 sattv4u2
As the old papertowel commercial went
Nora "whimpy whimpy whimpy"
Lynn "HEFTY HEFTY HEFTY'
LOL. Pretty much. Although Nora tried to be tough. She just looked bitchy and bitter, though. Especially when Liz (Lynn could have done it, too, I've no doubt) went back and corrected her language on several things. That's what I'm wishing I would see more often from the GOP. Instead we get nodders like Steele who let lies and insults just pass right on by.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:14:01am |
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:14:38am |
re: #517 aussiemagpie
"jumper weather"?! What does that mean in english?!
:)
And HEY! I gave you a *smooch* in my #511 and don't even get a "hello" in return?!
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VegasRick Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:15:05am |
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aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:15:18am |
re: #506 katemaclaren
If you go to Oz, buy some Aeroguard, right, Aussiemagpie? ;-)
An essential item in summer ...
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nyc redneck Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:15:21am |
re: #465 aggieann
Exactly. Do we really want the organization responsible for the DMV also to be responsible for our medical treatment?
the last time i had to deal w/ the DMV, i went in w/ a beautiful small
bouquet of flowers, just a 'nosegay' really. i waited in line for 3 hours and finally.got called. it was late in the afternoon and i walked up to the window to
where the bureaucrat was waiting and frowning.
i said, " i know you have a tough job, i thought you might like these."
i handed her the flowers. her face brightened up.
she said, "oh my, thank you." she could not stop smiling.
she got me out of there in 5 minutes.
that's how i handle the DMV. of course i didn't feel like the flowers were
a bribe or anything because i love to give flowers to people.
but upon reflection we may reach a point where getting proper medical care
approved by a bureaucrat could require more than some carnations, lilies,
and ox eye daisies. (w/ a little greenery)
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:16:21am |
re: #528 aussiemagpie
Hello {yma o hyd}
Australia certainly is a land of contrasts - we have tropical rain forests, deserts, snowfields, and everything in between!
I loved Upfield's novels, now I've got the urge to read them again!
Come on down! :-)
Its been my plan, for the time after Madame has joined her Big Dog ...
Now, in addition, I have to wait for the economy to pick up, alas!
To see in the New Year in Sydney ... one day I will!
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itellu3times Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:18:28am |
Stephanapoulous interviews Ahmadinejad.
Thirteen syllables right there.
One is a short, loud-mouthed, biased man who causes a lot of trouble.
The other is Ahmadinejad.
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Lynn B. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:18:36am |
re: #423 zuckerlilly
RS is distorting the truth again:
The headline on JW reads:
But that isn't what Albright (and I'm no fan of her) actually said but: ...
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was, but not in this case. You're quoting from an article that's 3 years old. The one Robert linked to is here and it says exactly what he said it says.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:19:14am |
re: #511 realwest
Hey there {aussie}! *Smooch* - hope you'll be able to stay warm tonight - we're going up to 91 degrees here in North Carolina today!
*SMOOCH* Ha! I've had to put a jumper on tonight! It's cold! Now I have to put up with you all talking about heatwaves *grumble grumble*
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:19:56am |
re: #516 Walter L. Newton
Walter, I do appreciate what you're saying, but for as long as I've been here, ayatollah ghilmeini has been one of the most respected commenters on LGF. Comment after comment after comment have ALL been home runs.
Which is why I'm so perplexed at her comments here today. Indeed, I was only asking half-in jest as to who is it that's posting as ayatollah ghilmeini.
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ayatollah ghilmeini Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:20:56am |
Charles will see the comment and deal with it as he chooses.
ProKoln said Spencer was going. Spencer says he is not. If he goes, as I said last night, he is a species of feces. But he is not going.
We are parsing every word and drawing every conclusion against him. While he would be wrong to do so, and this is pure speculation on my part, I have no idea of the man's inner mind and beliefs, the worst I can imagine of him is he perhaps somehow empathizes with the neos as the only way the Islamist tide doesn't swamp Europe. I would never agree with that but perhaps he has decided he trusts a fascist Europe more than an Islamist one. That also does not make him a supporter; nor would it be anything I could agree with. This would be a terrible mistake but it is not irrational to conclude that Europe is going down. If you assume that is the case, hold your nose and hoping the neonazis win are is no different the pick your poison expediency of supporting Stalin against Hitler.
Again the above is pure speculation on my part.
The key is to remember that Nuremberg rallies are important for fascists and pro-Koln is potentially a bellweather in European politics. Europe's politics died in 1914 and have never really recovered. Other than the bright light of Churchil it has been nothing but Chamberlains, Petains, Quislings, Mosleys, Galloways, Chiracs and Shroeders. Weak men of democracy and strong men for some totalitarian force. Fascists love to get their groove on together and march about in their swastika covered underwear, it is who they are. Missing a big like that is means missing the fun AND the main purpose of such rallies is self reinforcement of the radical beliefs.
Spencer need give no reason why he is not going. Having exchanged any number of messages with the man in the last two days, I am fairly confident he is not a fascist and his thinking falls within what I consider to be the acceptable bounds of human discourse. One does not have to like him nor subscribe to his thinking and give him the benefit of the doubt. He bears watching but should be given at least the courtesy of getting him to clarify what he is saying if there is some doubt or action we do not agree with or that appears wrong to our thinking.
Again, I am a Lizard through and through, I wrote an email to his editor at FrontPage expressing my concern that he was going to pro-Koln. Jamie Glazov forwarded the message to Spencer wrote me vehemently denying the accusation. At what point do we give the man the benefit of the doubt and stop parsing his every word and quote as incipient Nazism? There can be no question of the sincerity of his reply to me nor his clear statement he is not going to ProKoln. Do you think David Horowitz and Jamie Glazov would have anything to do with him if they thought he was a closet brownshirt?
As I stated above, the time has come to set the record straight and drop this matter.
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:21:04am |
re: #535 nyc redneck
It won't work ... not with the bureaucrats of such a health service,nor with the doctors.
I gave them a huge box of chocolates, as a sort of jubilee present, since I was with that practice for 20 years ... yes, they were really chuffed, but as for treated abit more humanely?
No chance!
Mind, I always tell the people on the other end of whatever helpline I need to call that I'm not getting at them personally, and that i wish their superiors would give them a bunch of flowers for their patience - and they do like that!
Especially the Indian ladies ...
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:21:28am |
re: #540 realwest
Maybe she's not followed Charles' threads about Spencer.
I wonder what she thinks of Gellar.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:22:06am |
re: #512 Lincolntf
Hi Aussie. I was hoping one of you Down Under folks would show up while I still remembered to mention this. I read the funniest "News of the Weird"-type of story the other day. Some well regarded public figure in Australia appealed a speeding ticket (lying about where he was in order to escape a measly 70 dollar fine) and a newspaper dogged him about his misleading testimony, ultimately resulting in them discovering that he had been a fraud all of his life. Do you happen to know this story? If you do, what field was the guy in? They mentioned that he was "highly respected" and maybe even had been awarded some National medal for his work.
Shoulda paid the fine, dingleberry!
This was a huge story down here and I'll find you a good link
This man was a JUDGE!
He lied and lied and lied, thinking he'd be given a free pass and now he's in prison for three years!
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ayatollah ghilmeini Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:22:44am |
re: #493 yma o hyd
maybe if we lower our rhetoric, their better angels will cause them to rethink things and see them clearly.
no one is going to do that when heated words are flying
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:23:02am |
re: #540 realwest
Walter, I do appreciate what you're saying, but for as long as I've been here, ayatollah ghilmeini has been one of the most respected commenters on LGF. Comment after comment after comment have ALL been home runs.
Which is why I'm so perplexed at her comments here today. Indeed, I was only asking half-in jest as to who is it that's posting as ayatollah ghilmeini.
Well, sorry, but I'm not half-jesting. The comments from ayatollah ghilmeini are pure apologist stuff for Spencer, and he/she won't even answer my simple question.
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Lynn B. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:23:33am |
re: #470 MandyManners
I hope a lot of people take the most important lesson from this situation: GET A WILL!
Excellent advice, but a will would have been of no help in this situation. Creditors get paid first. You can't change that by having a will.
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lazardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:24:13am |
re: #544 aussiemagpie
That's justice for you.
Part of the reason I've doubted the existence of the concept.
/also, good early morning!
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Lincolntf Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:24:56am |
re: #544 aussiemagpie
Wow, I didn't know about the jail part. What an absolute idiot he must be.
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:25:54am |
re: #522 kynna
Sorry! *blushes*
I realized after I posted that I forgot the link to the video.
It's re: waterboarding and Cheney takes O'Donnell to the woodshed every time she tries to spin. It's pretty masterful. I hope she plans to stay involved, because we need people like her.
I want to thank you for posting this. UPDING! I read the transcript--and the comments. Liz Cheney is focused, smart, and correct. Lois Lane looks lame.
| 551 |
pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:26:16am |
Mornin' folks.
Senator Levin is a POS. No, I take that back, he's a goddamned, unmitigated fathead.
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Truck Monkey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:27:20am |
re: #522 kynna
Sorry! *blushes*
I realized after I posted that I forgot the link to the video.
It's re: waterboarding and Cheney takes O'Donnell to the woodshed every time she tries to spin. It's pretty masterful. I hope she plans to stay involved, because we need people like her.
She had better stop being so effective or she won't get an invite back. How many interviews with Ron Paul, Pat Buchanon, or Lindsay Graham will it take to cancel out the effects of this interview with Lynn Cheney?
| 553 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:28:23am |
re: #531 aussiemagpie
I've got a pavlova recipe for the LGF cookbook :-)
Ahhh! Wonderful! I'd like some of my garden strawberries, fresh whipped cream, a drizzle of chocolate syrup and some kiwis on it!
| 554 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:29:03am |
re: #552 Truck Monkey
So true. I hope she's on MEET THE PRESS!
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:29:34am |
re: #545 ayatollah ghilmeini
maybe if we lower our rhetoric, their better angels will cause them to rethink things and see them clearly.
no one is going to do that when heated words are flying
True.
However, lets not forget that this is about associating with neonazis, and thus lending them respectability.
Its not about saying Spencer is one, himself.
It is a horrid situation, but I have to say that there are some things I cannot and will not contemplate in people who I thought were respectable.
One is Jew hate in any form - and you know yourself how that has been slowly creeping into the general discourse.
The other is any association with nazis, neo- or old ones. Not even because it may help in one's fight. It simply turns my guts inside out. Finding that material, even clad in gentle or veiled words, makes me sit up and take notice. It sometimes takes a while to become aware of that - but, as with Jew hate - it will out.
There are simply things which are not done.
These two constitute my line in the sand ...
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realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:29:57am |
re: #522 kynna
Ah, thank you very kindly! A great and well deserved smack down by Mrs. Cheney!
| 557 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:30:40am |
re: #549 Lincolntf
Wow, I didn't know about the jail part. What an absolute idiot he must be.
Sorry it's for two years not three, and here's a good article about this turkey
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:30:55am |
re: #551 pingjockey
Mornin' folks.
Senator Levin is a POS. No, I take that back, he's a goddamned, unmitigated fathead.
Hiya, {pingjockey}!
How are you, and how is that lovely Welsh lady you married?
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lazardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:31:15am |
re: #552 Truck Monkey
She had better stop being so effective or she won't get an invite back. How many interviews with Ron Paul, Pat Buchanon, or Lindsay Graham will it take to cancel out the effects of this interview with Lynn Cheney?
That was daughter Liz, not wife Lynne in that interview. Interesting stuff though.
| 560 |
realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:31:47am |
re: #551 pingjockey
Uh, good morning sleepyhead! I don't disagree with you, but wonder if there's something specific you're referring to?
| 561 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:31:59am |
re: #542 yma o hyd
Are you originally from the UK or one of the former commonwealth countries? Curious because of your word choices: chuffed, mind..
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Capitalistincharge Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:32:26am |
Fox news reporting swine flu cases now in Spain, France and UK.
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MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:32:37am |
re: #547 Lynn B.
Excellent advice, but a will would have been of no help in this situation. Creditors get paid first. You can't change that by having a will.
The executor would be in charge, not the grieving mother.
| 564 |
Killian Bundy Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:33:11am |
re: #562 Capitalistincharge
Fox news reporting swine flu cases now in Spain, France and UK.
/RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
| 565 |
pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:33:48am |
re: #558 yma o hyd
She is wiggin' out. The local big parade is next week and in her eyes her flag team/drill team is not up to snuff!
I'm fine, except I'm gonna have to quit watching the morning 'news' shows because of the plethora of idiots masquerading as elected represenatives with brains.
| 566 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:33:59am |
re: #522 kynna
Sorry! *blushes*
I realized after I posted that I forgot the link to the video.
It's re: waterboarding and Cheney takes O'Donnell to the woodshed every time she tries to spin. It's pretty masterful. I hope she plans to stay involved, because we need people like her.
Wow. Thanks for posting that, and I'm glad I saw it and decided to click the link.
Liz Cheney rocks!
Straightforward, very well informed, unapologetic - Liz Cheney for Pres?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:34:45am |
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Thanos Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:34:48am |
AG, you disappoint me. Even if Spencer isn't going he's slathering whitewash (eurosupremacist pun intended) for some of the groups who are, and for people who are orging this. He's also attacking Charles as insane for pointing out the problems with PK, if there's not a problem then why is he not going?
| 569 |
pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:34:53am |
re: #560 realwest
He's blathering about the CIA memos on Wallaces show. Traitorous scumbag assholes.
| 570 |
danrudy Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:34:59am |
Cruise ship fends off pirate attack
Thanks to their private Israeli security force.
Al Jazeera reports the event but there is no mention of Israeli involvment...gee, I wonder why?
Al Jazeera version same story
| 571 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:35:53am |
re: #557 aussiemagpie
That was a very well-written article! I loved that last line about blood and feathers! I'll bet he is no longer so cocksure!
| 572 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:35:59am |
re: #514 MandyManners
Are kangaroos or koala bears featured any?
Not really, we have the usual Christmas stuff like everywhere, exxcept it's summer
Going to Carols by Candlelight on a warm night is lovely!
Think your Christmas - that's ours only with warm weather and being outside to play backyard cricket after lunch, or go to the beach for a swim - anything you can do in warm weather!
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Killian Bundy Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:36:16am |
re: #567 sattv4u2
huh ? Swine Flu?
I'm still waiting for the Killer Bees that were supposed to wipe us out years ago,,, not to mention the Bird Flu and Mad Cow Disease!
/wash your hands, stay out of Mexico for awhile
| 575 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:36:50am |
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:37:03am |
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yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:37:27am |
re: #561 katemaclaren
Are you originally from the UK or one of the former commonwealth countries? Curious because of your word choices: chuffed, mind..
Good question!
I am still in the UK - in Wales, to be precise, and these words do sometimes slip in.
'Mind' is pretty much a South Walian expression - we use it all the time.
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lazardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:37:35am |
re: #570 danrudy
I see what they (didn't?) do there.
I was wondering how the heck a cruise ship was able to defend itself, and since it was an Italian ship I thought they stationed carabinieri on it.
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katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:37:43am |
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pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:37:58am |
re: #574 pingjockey
D'oh. Went and looked at the vid. Good smackdown.
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kynna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:38:09am |
re: #566 reine.de.tout
Wow. Thanks for posting that, and I'm glad I saw it and decided to click the link.
Liz Cheney rocks!
Straightforward, very well informed, unapologetic - Liz Cheney for Pres?
Or head of the GOP. Seriously -- we need people who will dismantle the MSM's white noise machine.
| 582 |
Dianna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:38:12am |
re: #577 yma o hyd
Good question!
I am still in the UK - in Wales, to be precise, and these words do sometimes slip in.
'Mind' is pretty much a South Walian expression - we use it all the time.
"mind" also gets used by authors. It's just too useful!
| 584 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:38:30am |
re: #568 Thanos
AG, you disappoint me. Even if Spencer isn't going he's slathering whitewash (eurosupremacist pun intended) for some of the groups who are, and for people who are orging this. He's also attacking Charles as insane for pointing out the problems with PK, if there's not a problem then why is he not going?
No kidding. Spencer is doing damage control (IMO). He's not going but at the same time he is defending Manfred Rouhs of Pro-Köln in the same article.
Big problem there, which AG seems to miss.
| 585 |
pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:39:15am |
re: #579 katemaclaren
The article in yesterdays paper said it was a vicious combination of human/swine/avian flu.
| 586 |
MandyManners Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:39:18am |
re: #572 aussiemagpie
Not really, we have the usual Christmas stuff like everywhere, exxcept it's summer
Going to Carols by Candlelight on a warm night is lovely!
Think your Christmas - that's ours only with warm weather and being outside to play backyard cricket after lunch, or go to the beach for a swim - anything you can do in warm weather!
It'd be cool to roast chestnuts over a fire pit on the beach.
| 587 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:39:18am |
re: #577 yma o hyd
I should have recognized the WELSH nic! I'm taking my little grandson to the Doctor Who museum this summer--in Wales. I used to live in Sutton Coldfield (near Birmingham) so took a lot of trips to North Wales. Lovely Lovely Lovely.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:39:52am |
re: #518 katemaclaren
I can remember all the Christmas cards with santa on a surfboard, in his, well, speedo! The sled pulled by rein-roos! or emus!
LOL! I must find that card to send to my OS friends then...
| 589 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:40:03am |
re: #581 kynna
What a GOOD idea! Head of the GOP! Do you think the Cheney name would hurt her, though?
| 590 |
Lynn B. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:40:27am |
re: #541 ayatollah ghilmeini
If this was an isolated incident, I would agree with you 100%. But it's one in a long series of really unprovoked outrages and attacks that have been going on for a very long time now. Ignoring for the moment Spencer's links to and tacit approval of LGF stalker sites and other juvenile behavior on his part, whether or not he goes to the conference (and I applaud him for his decision, whatever the reason) doesn't change the direction of his recent alliances and his irrational lashing out at anyone who criticizes them both on his front page and by email.
You appear to be in deep denial here. I can relate, as I was also for quite some time. I'm afraid that sooner or later, you're in for a rude awakening.
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kynna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:40:44am |
RE: Swine Flu
Glenn Reynolds is posting good links about it. I'm concerned about the hysterical reporting. Especially with an administration that "never wastes a good crisis."
What's next for the rights cull?
| 592 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:41:06am |
re: #586 MandyManners
It would be HOT!
Mind the flies, though, and not to mention the mozzies the size of B-52s.
| 593 |
FrogMarch Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:41:21am |
re: #522 kynna
Sorry! *blushes*
I realized after I posted that I forgot the link to the video.
It's re: waterboarding and Cheney takes O'Donnell to the woodshed every time she tries to spin. It's pretty masterful. I hope she plans to stay involved, because we need people like her.
great video - thanks. worth watching.
| 594 |
Lynn B. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:42:19am |
re: #563 MandyManners
The executor would be in charge, not the grieving mother.
Ah. Gotcha. Sorry, I was only skimming that part of this thread so I missed that point. (Of course in this instance the grieving mother might very well have been the executor ...)
| 596 |
kynna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:42:35am |
re: #590 Lynn B.
That he and Geller pulled that nonsense about LGF being "linked" to Nazi sites should be enough to make one question his credibility and sincerity.
| 597 |
Zimriel Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:42:49am |
re: #516 Walter L. Newton
And that is exactly what Rouhs's book selection consists of. It's actually clever. We don't sell Nazi books, we just sell books that speaks to Nazi's.
I found at least one author in there who was a hardcore Nazi, as in Waffen SS / Dachau / Warsaw Ghetto. And a lot of Holocaust apologetic.
| 598 |
kynna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:43:23am |
re: #589 katemaclaren
What a GOOD idea! Head of the GOP! Do you think the Cheney name would hurt her, though?
Not with Republicans. It would drive dems crazy, though.
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Dianna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:44:01am |
re: #595 katemaclaren
Mind the Gap!
They imported that campaign for BART, and changed it to "Watch the Gap!"
Then, somehow, they got some of the British posters, and it got people's attention. They liked it better, evidently.
| 600 |
realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:44:22am |
re: #598 kynna
"It would drive dems crazy, though." Very Short Trip.
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aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:44:26am |
re: #529 yma o hyd
I hope you've sorted out your blankets, polar fleece tops, and above all laid in a good selection of hot-water-bottles!
:-))
All prepared here and I've even had my coat drycleaned!
The most important item for me - bedsocks and I have lovely glamorous new ones :-)
| 602 |
Nevergiveup Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:44:31am |
WASHINGTON -- The head of the Senate Intelligence Committee said Sunday she hopes public outrage over Bush-era interrogation methods subsides so Congress can calmly investigate the issue.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
There was no fucking outrage till you and yours started releasing classified info. You duechbag.
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pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:44:31am |
re: #598 kynna
Heh! Major cleanup in the Huffpoo and KKKos aisles from all the 'splodin heads.
| 604 |
Charles Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:44:33am |
re: #541 ayatollah ghilmeini
Charles will see the comment and deal with it as he chooses.
ProKoln said Spencer was going. Spencer says he is not. If he goes, as I said last night, he is a species of feces. But he is not going.
I'm frankly amazed that you could read Robert Spencer's posts on this, calling me a "liar" and worse, smearing me in every possible way he can think of, and tell me that I need to drop it and move on.
I will certainly note that he NOW says he's not going, after waffling and denying there was any problem with the organizers for several days, and continuing to apologize for them.
But I have a question for you: if he were writing the same things about YOU that he's been writing about me, including posting videos comparing me to Hitler, how would that make you feel? Would you think it's just "time to move on?"
| 605 |
itellu3times Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:45:04am |
re: #570 danrudy
Cruise ship fends off pirate attack
Thanks to their private Israeli security force.
With pistols?
Ugh.
| 606 |
jaunte Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:45:14am |
Robert Spencer may not be going to the Pro-Köln conference, but he has made no apparent attempt to protest the use of his name in promotional materials that tout him as one of the featured speakers. Maybe he should pay more attention to who he lends his name in support, and less to photoshops of Filip Dewinter buddying with Pro-Köln's Markus Beisicht on various backgrounds
| 607 |
kynna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:45:19am |
| 608 |
yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:45:59am |
re: #570 danrudy
Cruise ship fends off pirate attack
Thanks to their private Israeli security force.
Al Jazeera reports the event but there is no mention of Israeli involvment...gee, I wonder why?
Al Jazeera version same story
And nor does The Beeb ...
| 609 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:46:23am |
re: #597 Zimriel
I found at least one author in there who was a hardcore Nazi, as in Waffen SS / Dachau / Warsaw Ghetto. And a lot of Holocaust apologetic.
Bingo. And Robert actually LINKS to that page, in his support for Manfred Rouhs of Pro-Köln.
Every single book on that page has material in them that would be supportive of a neo-nazi mindset.
Did Spencer even LOOK AT THAT PAGE.
Finklestein has a number of anti-holocaust books for sale on that page. Finklestein has been a subject of Spencer's threads a number of times, and not in a good light.
| 610 |
Lincolntf Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:46:29am |
re: #557 aussiemagpie
Great article. The writer doesn't bother to hide his contempt, I like that.
I take it that the Judge is a moonbat Liberal as well as a fraud? That would make the story perfect.
| 611 |
Shug Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:46:46am |
re: #608 yma o hyd
And nor does The Beeb ...
because they couldn't scare up any dead kids to blame the Israelis for killing
| 612 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:47:16am |
re: #532 realwest
"jumper weather"?! What does that mean in english?!
:)
And HEY! I gave you a *smooch* in my #511 and don't even get a "hello" in return?!
You just want more *smooches*! My reply is somewhere here darls (I'm post reading/posting speed challenged as you here) :-)
| 614 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:49:08am |
re: #536 yma o hyd
Its been my plan, for the time after Madame has joined her Big Dog ...
Now, in addition, I have to wait for the economy to pick up, alas!
To see in the New Year in Sydney ... one day I will!
That would be lovely - NYE in Sydney is just great! The fireworks are amazing each year
| 615 |
yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:49:28am |
re: #582 Dianna
"mind" also gets used by authors. It's just too useful!
It is - but something CArdiffians are famous for is not somethinga self-respecting author would do, and that is using as may expressions for 'as well', one after the other, to make one's point.
Thus:
'Its been a nice day here too, as well, also, likewise.'
The more are used the bigger the emphasis.
Children - don't do this at home!
:-)
| 616 |
realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:49:36am |
re: #602 Nevergiveup
With alll due respect, Sen. Dianne Feinstein did not start this bullshit - Obama and his AG Holder did. But Obama is the main culprit.
As I've said before, Obama is nothing much more than a street three card monte dealer - "quick - what's that over there?!"
Just classic misdirection, as was Obama's politically astute willingness to let the 'Nirthers drone on and on and on.
| 617 |
Charles Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:49:36am |
Until I see the conference organizers -- the people Robert Spencer has been defending against accusations that they are tied to neo-Nazis -- post a notice that Spencer is not speaking at the conference, I'm not taking back a word I wrote about this issue. As of this morning, they still say on their website that Spencer will be at the conference -- and that is all I have ever said. Somebody is lying, and unlike "Ayatollah Ghilmeini," I simply don't trust Spencer's word.
| 618 |
pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:49:39am |
re: #611 Shug
Give 'em time. They'll figure out some way to do it.
| 620 |
kynna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:49:49am |
re: #603 pingjockey
Heh! Major cleanup in the Huffpoo and KKKos aisles from all the 'splodin heads.
LOL. But would they actually interview or debate her? No way.
| 621 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:50:24am |
re: #605 itellu3times
With pistols?
Ugh.
You know this is going to get some major blow back from those sympathetic to the poor pirates. The Italians will have to pay a fine for having armed the ship, etc., etc.
| 622 |
Dianna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:50:31am |
re: #615 yma o hyd
I will follow your advice, there. What my mom would say is making me smile.
| 623 |
J.S. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:50:36am |
re: #604 Charles
As much as I'm aware, Geller is still going to the pro-Koln thing, isn't she? (also note that Kathy Shaidle, of "five-feet-of-fury" was going to the pro-Koln event and that Shaidle alleges that this neo-nazi group is not neo-nazi -- along with many other claims...)
| 624 |
yma o hyd Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:51:19am |
re: #587 katemaclaren
I should have recognized the WELSH nic! I'm taking my little grandson to the Doctor Who museum this summer--in Wales. I used to live in Sutton Coldfield (near Birmingham) so took a lot of trips to North Wales. Lovely Lovely Lovely.
Wahey! That museum is in Cardiff, iirc - so nearer the time, remind me to give you my e-mail addy, and perhaps we can set up a meet!
| 625 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:51:28am |
| 626 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:51:47am |
re: #617 Charles
One way or another, Spencer will "be there", either in person or via video conference or even by proxy
There are times that I am "at work" even while sitting in the comfort of my own home!
| 628 |
pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:52:03am |
re: #620 kynna
In a debate you normally have to use facts. For the left facts are inconvienent. Emotions rule.
| 629 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:52:17am |
re: #548 lazardo
That's justice for you.
Part of the reason I've doubted the existence of the concept.
/also, good early morning!
Hi there!
Almost 2am here! So good morning it is :-)
| 630 |
Nevergiveup Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:52:17am |
An Iranian vessel, en route to Sudan in order to deliver weapons to Hamas in the Gaza Strip, was attacked by an Israeli or American ship and destroyed, according to a report Sunday in the Egyptian weekly Al-Usbua.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
OOPS?
| 631 |
lazardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:52:47am |
re: #621 katemaclaren
You know this is going to get some major blow back from those sympathetic to the poor pirates. The Italians will have to pay a fine for having armed the ship, etc., etc.
IMO if that happened they'd probably pay it...and then say it's better than the price we'd have to pay if the pirates did capture it and then ransom the hostages.
| 632 |
Ayatollah Ghilmeini Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:52:52am |
I think there is some unclarity about where I am coming from on this. I have tried to act a peacemaker here. We accused Spencer of going to proKoln and were wrong. I think his associations with Jastras and even more so Trifkovic are not good things but that is HIS problem.
Here are Mr. Spencer's own words:
...you will find scurrilous and potentially quite damaging false charges, such as the assertion that I am a white supremacist and support David Duke and that I am having an affair with Pamela Geller. If Charles Johnson had an ounce of integrity, he would not allow such comments.
Not many neofascists denounce David Duke? Can you not imagine how accusations that he is best buds with Duke might piss the man off?
Pro-Koln are the real deal sons of Hitler. Would a man who genuinely was in sympathy with them bother to write me back such a comment?
It is my position that pro-Koln played us. It is my belief that Robert Spencer is not a closet Nazi and we do ourselves the greatest disservice by over parsing every word written by and about him. This thing has gotten way overblown wasted time words and bandwidth.
If Spencer is really a Nazi, there will be no keeping in his inner Goebbels; I think we should watch him. Make sure he is not playing a double game and see if he is lying about attending pro-Koln.
If he starts attending Vlaams Belang sing-alongs in Antwerp, then by all means, let us drop the hammer. I will go at him with verbal meat ax the likes of which you have never seen from me before. I understand he could be playing me and will respond accordingly.
But as I currently read him, he is entitled to the benefit of the doubt./.
| 633 |
Nevergiveup Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:53:12am |
re: #616 realwest
With alll due respect, Sen. Dianne Feinstein did not start this bullshit - Obama and his AG Holder did. But Obama is the main culprit.
As I've said before, Obama is nothing much more than a street three card monte dealer - "quick - what's that over there?!"
Just classic misdirection, as was Obama's politically astute willingness to let the 'Nirthers drone on and on and on.
I believe my post stated "you and yours" meaning all the democratic scum?
| 634 |
Shug Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:53:23am |
Charles , IIRC, your original article was quoting the press release confirming Spencer's attendance at the conference, correct?.
All you did was provide the documentation of what others said. You reported the facts as they were, and as they still are.
There should be no misunderstanding by people.
| 636 |
pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:53:40am |
re: #630 Nevergiveup
What does 'Al-Usbua' mean? Daily lyin' rag?
| 637 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:54:07am |
re: #553 katemaclaren
Ahhh! Wonderful! I'd like some of my garden strawberries, fresh whipped cream, a drizzle of chocolate syrup and some kiwis on it!
Yes my recipe has all that except for the choccy syrup..
| 639 |
realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:55:35am |
re: #630 Nevergiveup
Well I hope it was a US ship, but with our current CiC I doubt it.
Go Israel!
| 640 |
Dianna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:55:50am |
re: #630 Nevergiveup
An Iranian vessel, en route to Sudan in order to deliver weapons to Hamas in the Gaza Strip, was attacked by an Israeli or American ship and destroyed, according to a report Sunday in the Egyptian weekly Al-Usbua.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
OOPS?
Is this the same story - or related to - the ones about the IAF striking weapons convoys, and attacking the same/another(?) ship at sea?
| 641 |
kynna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:55:57am |
Bye, Lizards! Gotta go to church and pray for my soul.
Wish me luck! ;D
| 642 |
VegasRick Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:56:03am |
re: #621 katemaclaren
You know this is going to get some major blow back from those sympathetic to the poor pirates. The Italians will have to pay a fine for having armed the ship, etc., etc.
Italian response.
Forearm jerk: Clench your right fist and jerk your forearm up as you slap your right bicep with your left palm. This is a rude phallic gesture that men throughout southern Europe often use the way many Americans "give someone the finger." This jumbo version of "flipping the bird" says "I'm superior" (it's an action some monkeys actually do with their penises to insult their peers). This "get lost" or "up yours" gesture is occasionally used by rude men in Britain and Germany as more of an "I want you" gesture about (but never to) a sexy woman.
Chin flick: Tilt your head back slightly and flick the back of your fingers forward in an arc from under your chin. In Italy and France, this means "I'm not interested, you bore me," or "You bother me." In southern Italy it can mean "No."
| 643 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:56:10am |
re: #619 Charles
[Link: translate.google.com...]
Very hard to argue with that, Charles. What's the guy to do, now!? There it is for all the blogosphere to see. If he doesn't show up, what happens? He loses face? I really wonder what in the world has happened to him or whether he was always in that camp?
| 644 |
pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:56:23am |
re: #638 Alouette
We used to do anti-boarding drills inport. Like if there was a riot and they tried to storm the ship. We used firehoses, 150psi and live steam lines piped up from the engine room.
| 645 |
J.S. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:56:30am |
re: #632 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
So what's your take on Atlas Shrugs?
| 646 |
Nevergiveup Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:57:13am |
re: #640 Dianna
Is this the same story - or related to - the ones about the IAF striking weapons convoys, and attacking the same/another(?) ship at sea?
I think it's a different one, but not sure
| 647 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:57:20am |
re: #571 katemaclaren
That was a very well-written article! I loved that last line about blood and feathers! I'll bet he is no longer so cocksure!
I hope he's getting some special treatment in prison from those he helped put away
He really is an arrogant jerk!
| 648 |
jaunte Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:57:26am |
re: #632 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
He doesn't appear to mind Pro-Koln using his name to promote their conference.
| 649 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:57:28am |
re: #632 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
We accused Spencer of going to proKoln and were wrong
See my 626
Not many neofascists denounce David Duke
Wrong again. Neofascists are very good at working in the shadows. David Duke's ego doesn't allow that, and thats what makes others of his ilk shy away from him
| 650 |
lazardo Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:58:13am |
re: #638 Alouette
Maybe this belies a lack of confidence in the pirate's capabilities in handling the weapons they use...especially now that they're encountering people that can fight back. Remember, these pirates are armed with AK-47s and RPGs, and they get driven off by pistols and firehoses.
/and utterly pwned by trained snipers.
| 651 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:58:24am |
re: #628 pingjockey
It was a good example of the use of Aristotle's approach--Norah better bone up on the old guy if she is going to win the next round.
s.
| 652 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:58:27am |
re: #632 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
...Pro-Koln are the real deal sons of Hitler. Would a man who genuinely was in sympathy with them bother to write me back such a comment?...
Then WHY is Spencer defending Manfred Rouhs of Pro-Köln by linking to the his web site with their recommended books for sale?
| 653 |
Ayatollah Ghilmeini Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:59:00am |
re: #568 Thanos
AG, you disappoint me. Even if Spencer isn't going he's slathering whitewash (eurosupremacist pun intended) for some of the groups who are, and for people who are orging this. He's also attacking Charles as insane for pointing out the problems with PK, if there's not a problem then why is he not going?
I attribute his comments towards Charles more to anger and indignation than philofascism. Please see my comment above. I assume Charles is a big boy and can take the heat.
Incidentally, Spencer actually thought I was going to get banned the other night. I told him I had not the least concern that would happen, I have never seen CJ bounce anyone for anything other than bigotry, sockpuppetry and unmitigated assholism. I don't think anything I have written could qualify for any of those things.
| 655 |
realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:59:15am |
re: #640 Dianna It might be related in some way, but different events, different times and different locations.
| 656 |
pingjockey Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:59:43am |
re: #651 katemaclaren
First she has to know who Aristotle was. I am amazed at the lack of education amongst the msm.
| 657 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:00:01am |
re: #586 MandyManners
It'd be cool to roast chestnuts over a fire pit on the beach.
LOL! Now that would attract a crowd!
| 659 |
Charles Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:00:20am |
re: #632 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
...you will find scurrilous and potentially quite damaging false charges, such as the assertion that I am a white supremacist and support David Duke and that I am having an affair with Pamela Geller. If Charles Johnson had an ounce of integrity, he would not allow such comments.
Robert Spencer is a scumbag of the first order. He has unbelievable gall to complain about LGF comments, after the sheer hatred that he allows and encourages to be posted about me.
A lying, backbiting, sad little scumbag.
| 661 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:01:18am |
re: #652 Walter L. Newton
Maybe because it's his brother-in-law? (just kidding!)
What I really think? MONEY, honey. There's money to be made here somewhere.
| 662 |
Dianna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:01:54am |
re: #659 Charles
Robert Spencer is a scumbag of the first order. He has unbelievable gall to complain about LGF comments, after the sheer hatred that he allows and encourages to be posted about me.
A lying, backbiting, sad little scumbag.
People who've made the remarks he wrote about get told where they're wrong all the time by more commenters than agree with those remarks. Every single time.
Charles has nothing to be ashamed of.
| 663 |
Lynn B. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:02:17am |
re: #632 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
... Pro-Koln are the real deal sons of Hitler.
Spencer has repeatedly denied this over the course of the last few days.
It is my position that pro-Koln played us.
If that's the case, then why didn't Spencer come out right away and say he wasn't going. Why the cutesy games with "I haven't confirmed" and only in the wee hours of the morning today announce that he isn't going.
Someone's playing you, alright. You're not going to see it until you're ready to. And I have work to do in the garden.
Later.
| 664 |
Dianna Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:02:20am |
| 665 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:03:14am |
re: #610 Lincolntf
Great article. The writer doesn't bother to hide his contempt, I like that.
I take it that the Judge is a moonbat Liberal as well as a fraud? That would make the story perfect.
Yes he's a moonbat and up until recently, much treasured by fellow moonbats
| 666 |
realwest Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:05:12am |
re: #662 Dianna Yep! But of course Spencer uses the dodge that his comments are "unmoderated" which is another way of saying he lets those he agrees with stay up and pretends to have not seen them.
Charles, OTOH, will bounce your ass or at least delete comments that are so hate-filled and vile.
| 667 |
katemaclaren Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:08:55am |
Bye everyone! It's hot as hell here near Philly. I'm desperate to go down to the creek and grade papers where it's cool. My little guy is standing here in full regalia: last-year's swimsuit (too small), bucket, flimsy fishing net, a jar for tadpoles or bugs or whatever, and his old sneakers. Gotta go in five minutes or else...!
| 669 |
wiffersnapper Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:13:05am |
It's not a break down of communication, it's a breakdown of listening.
| 670 |
J.S. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:14:26am |
re: #667 katemaclaren
Bye...(up here, there's light snow mixed with rain falling...)
| 671 |
Zimriel Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:18:00am |
re: #662 Dianna
People who've made the remarks he wrote about get told where they're wrong all the time by more commenters than agree with those remarks. Every single time.
Charles has nothing to be ashamed of.
No-one serious has suggested any unprofessional relationship between Gellar and Spencer. I'd report a comment like that.
As for his complaint about "supporting David Duke", even non-serious commenters don't bother with that charge. As sattv4u2 #649 has pointed out, white nationalists in the Pro Köln mould are smart enough not to "support" that guy in public.
But the "white supremacist" charge is different. I agree that's between Spencer and his own soul, and cannot be proven. However his associations with white nationalists run so wide and deep that speculation about this as motive is fair.
| 672 |
zuckerlilly Sun, Apr 26, 2009 10:04:46am |
re: #538 Lynn B.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was, but not in this case. You're quoting from an article that's 3 years old. The one Robert linked to is here and it says exactly what he said it says.
Lynn B., I've read the article, even went to the linked web site and tried to confirm the allegation but I could find nothing. There is no independent source which would confirm the quotation. Every source I could find links back to JW (WSJ, USToday...) and JW links to VOA News which makes no reference.
If you go to the MSNBC interview with Albright (2:37) you will figure out that Albright is always saying the same: I'm no theologian but democracy in Islam is possible. She was saying this back three years ago and she is saying this now (MSNBC interview April/2009).
Why should she suddenly change her mind within some days (MSNBC interview)?
| 673 |
Lynn B. Sun, Apr 26, 2009 10:23:54am |
re: #672 zuckerlilly
Lynn B., I've read the article, even went to the linked web site and tried to confirm the allegation but I could find nothing. There is no independent source which would confirm the quotation. Every source I could find links back to JW (WSJ, USToday...) and JW links to VOA News which makes no reference.
Makes no reference?
VOA News 24 April 2009 (Spencer's link):
...
At the meeting with ambassadors from member states of the Organization of The Islamic Conference, or OIC., Albright laid out the project's strategies for combating Islamic extremism: First, elevate diplomacy as the primary tool for resolving key conflicts involving Muslim countries. Then promote broad-based economic development in those nations, foster mutual respect and understanding between Americans and Muslims, and support efforts to improve governance and promote civic participation in predominantly Muslim societies.
"There is no doubt in my mind that Muslim countries can be democracies," Albright says. "Turkey is a perfect example of that. It is very evident, and, actually, in my study of religions, in many ways Islam is maybe the most democratic religion because there is nobody between you and God. So I do not think that is something that can be used as reason not to have Muslim democracies.
"
There it is. Maybe Mohamed Elshinnawi is misquoting her in the article, but that's what it says.
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