Bad Craziness Watch: Glenn Beck Fans and Swine Flu Conspiracies

A sampling of comments from Fox News rising star Glenn Beck’s official 912 Project website, from the thread titled, “Swine Flu?”

There are currently 369 comments in the thread, almost all of them raving about conspiracies.

[…]IF ONE PERSON IN MY FAMILY DIES FROM THIS FLU I WILL HOLD OUR GOVERMENT RESPONSIBLE! ALL OF THEM!

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So this strain has Swine, bird and human flu. My question is, who is messing around? This has to be genetically altared. I do not believe for a second this could mutate with three different strands. I believe they are doing this in hopes of a massive breakout. That way they can fast track the “universal healthcare”. If millions become sick, they would be forced to give treatment on a large scale. Who knows what else could be in this shot. Our own government is trying to kill us.

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OK, there are a few weird things going on here…
3 missing vials of swine flu from the Army Lab at Fort Detrick, MD. and the fact that CNN reports this story on their website and NEVER ONCE mentions the words “swine flue” in the article! Why is that? Are they trying to cover something up?

Roger…Roger…I think we found the source of one of the ingredients in our little pandemic cocktail! […]

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[…]Today on a positive note swine flu was found in the two states of the union that most people would not mind vanishing off the face of the earth. The ugly part is that due to lax rules at the border it has been allowed across our border. The bad part is it will probably spread across the rest of the country eventually giving Obama the ability to declare Marshall law. […]

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Has any one noticed the Media is not talking much about this now.
Normally if 1 person any where in the world die from something like this,
they report and re-report and re-report
Bird Pig and Human viruses mixed. this is a lab creation People.
Wake UP!

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[…] Sense Porkulus Pigamus spewed change we can believe in I think he should be wide open to any and all pork jokes. Now monkey jokes I could understand

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Here we go! strap it on tight this may be the ride of our lives. I like how there are 3 strains of flu swine , avian , and human. the cdc has never seen anything like this b4. seems like there is something to this. can you imagine 5 years from know and looking back ,and this is how it all started. this seems more like a bio weapon then just some mutation. we are going to look back and remember these cases popping up here and there then wham its on your doorstep.

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Quarantines on the horizon? Depy. of Homeland Security? They said “Never let a crisis go to waste.”

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Remember folks, it is fear that is running this country. I would ask you all, what would happen if this so called “pandemic” where to occur? Come on think about it.
Under the threat of a national epidemic, who would take power? What agency could possibly take away every right you have ever had? Quarantines would just be the beginning.
FEMA!

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I find this just so ironically funny, how absolutely perfect would it be if Nancy Pelosi gets the Swine Flu? It would be funny on so many levels. First, because she is in fact, the Biggest “SWINE” in the United States and Second, she just absolutely adores Illegal Immigrants from Mexico and told them that they were the Most Patriotic people in America, so I would just find it hysterically funny if she were one of the victims of this new plague. NO ONE WOULD DESERVE IT MORE.

(Hat tip: freetoken.)

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329 comments

1 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:56:38pm

Where in hell did Beck come from? I never heard of him till Fox dug him up?

2 Lincolntf  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:56:57pm

We're one flu over the cuckoo's nest.

3 brookly red  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:57:22pm

re: #1 Nevergiveup

Where in hell did Beck come from? I never heard of him till Fox dug him up?

grown in a lab?

4 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:57:58pm
3 missing vials of swine flu from the Army Lab at Fort Detrick, MD.

/got a linky for that?

5 TedStriker  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:58:30pm

Talk about riding the crazy train...

/apologies to Ozzy

6 HelloDare  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:58:38pm

Obama doesn't like white people. /

7 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:58:53pm

Here we go.

8 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:59:06pm

The Beck Flu is more dangerous.

It causes an encephalitis resulting in the inability to deal with reality

9 Lincolntf  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:59:22pm

I love the people who fear "Marshall" Law.
Is it Donyell or Penny that they're talking about?

10 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:59:38pm

re: #3 brookly red

grown in a lab?

Found on a slab of vintage cheese?

11 jaunte  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 6:59:54pm
"Today on a positive note swine flu was found in the two states of the union that most people would not mind vanishing off the face of the earth."

That's pretty nasty. A big FU to whoever wrote that one.

12 Randall Gross  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:00:19pm

Glen's like a paleonut magnet.

Speaking of which Charles, can we get a wingnut category to match the Moonbat one?

13 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:00:21pm

Love the comments from the illiterates who know so much about pandemics and medicine.

14 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:00:24pm
15 HelloDare  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:00:36pm

This swine flu outbreak is a conspiracy to get us all vaccinated. /

16 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:00:45pm

If Beck is this obnoxious now.

Can you imagine him back when he was drinking?

17 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:01:05pm

re: #16 Shug

If Beck is this obnoxious now.

Can you imagine him back when he was drinking?

Maybe he should start again?

18 ArmyWife  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:01:15pm

What is wrong with these people. The Swine Flu is not new.

19 brookly red  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:01:30pm

bat flu

20 BatGuano  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:01:36pm

re: #1 Nevergiveup

He was on another network. He wasn't as crazy then. Go figure.

21 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:02:05pm

If George Steinbrenner weren't senile, Geradi would be history.

22 BatGuano  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:02:09pm

re: #19 brookly red

I beg you're pardon?

23 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:02:25pm

re: #8 Shug

I disagree with you there. The Beck flu causes ass-shattery.

24 HelloDare  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:02:31pm

I wonder what Jenny McCarthy advise on the flu might be?

25 Lincolntf  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:02:31pm

re: #21 Nevergiveup

Gotta love the straight steal of home.

26 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:02:48pm

re: #23 WhiteRasta

I disagree with you there. The Beck flu causes ass-shattery.

Their brains are in their asses.

so we're both right

27 zombie  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:03:02pm

Considering that half those people probably have neo-Nazi sympathies, looks like we're suffering from an epidemic of Schwein! Flu.

28 BatGuano  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:03:10pm

re: #18 ArmyWife

I remember the '76 "epidemic".

29 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:03:21pm

I hear all the Jews are staying home tomorrow so we will not get Swine flu?

30 brookly red  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:03:29pm

re: #22 BatGuano

I beg you're pardon?

OK, moonbat flu, sheesh did I have to ?

31 HelloDare  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:03:43pm

Charles,

Could you post a Good Craziness post one of these days?

32 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:03:52pm

re: #30 brookly red

OK, moonbat flu, sheesh did I have to ?

I thought you were talking about the Yankee bats

33 TheMatrix31  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:03:55pm

I wonder if UCLA will be closed in the coming days at all. Considering the hugely diverse student population, maybe it won't be such a bad idea. I'm a fuckin' germophob as is.

34 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:04:00pm

Don't tell me - some right wing extremists are gonna try to use this pig flu scare to trick the gubmint into controlling the border.
Well, they can't fool us!/

35 PSGInfinity  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:04:08pm

I think this outbreak of crazy is part of a vast conspiracy, with roots Sesame Street and tentacles reaching from Area 51 to East Silver Spring...

36 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:04:10pm

re: #29 Nevergiveup

YES! You are correct!

37 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:04:15pm
This has to be genetically altared.

We got a fucking genius here, folks! Let's all bow down before this superior intellect.

38 lawhawk  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:04:16pm

Bad craziness? Too many hours under kleig lights and not enough time spent reading up on this stuff? That's probably the best explanation, because there's no reason to believe any of this crap.

Sign on to this crap and you'll reek of the stink. It doesn't matter if he sounds reasonable on some other issue - bad crazy is bad crazy.

Beck suffers bad crazy something serious.

Seriously, swine flu is bad stuff but it occurs naturally and mutates regularly - which is why it is so difficult to treat flu from year to year because the mutations make it immune to anti-virals and human immunity is unable to cope until exposed.

It could be a whole lot worse, but it's to date not all that more dangerous that the average flu that hits worldwide and kills 500,000 annually and hits millions with its effects. What has experts concerned is that this version is hitting people who are in good health particularly hard (usually it's old, infirm, and young 'uns who suffer disproportionately from the worst effects).

In sum, Beck is bad crazy; swine flu is bad; be prepared for medical emergencies in general and most of all - don't panic.

39 kay1212  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:04:21pm

If Glenn Beck's comment section ever holds a spelling bee, I might actually visit the site for a chance to win. The odds look very high judging from the quality of the highlighted posts.

40 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:04:36pm

re: #25 Lincolntf

Gotta love the straight steal of home.

Alittle hard for me to appreciate it at the moment, but yeah.

41 reine.de.tout  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:04:37pm

Good grief!
Lots of real crazy out there.

We (the world) are long "overdue" for some sort of flu pandemic.
Thank goodness people are more aware now than they used to be about how these things spread, and thank goodness for gift of modern medicine.

42 TedStriker  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:04:56pm

re: #9 Lincolntf

I love the people who fear "Marshall" Law.
Is it Donyell or Penny that they're talking about?

Or Garry?

43 BatGuano  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:05:05pm

re: #30 brookly red

Thanks for clarifying. :)

44 ArmyWife  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:05:05pm

re: #28 BatGuano

I was 5. Sorry, I don't remember! But I trust you!

45 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:05:36pm
I hear the swine flu comin'
It's rollin' 'round the bend,
And I ain't seen a vaccine,
Since, I don't know when,
I'm stuck in nut ball Prison,
And time keeps draggin' on,
But that swine flu keeps a-rollin',
On down to Mexico.

/~Johnny Cash

46 teleskiguy  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:05:46pm

These Glennbots don't believe in evolution.

47 reine.de.tout  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:05:56pm

re: #27 zombie

Considering that half those people probably have neo-Nazi sympathies, looks like we're suffering from an epidemic of Schwein! Flu.

OK, I've got it now.
You are actually buzzsawmonkey in disguise!

48 zombie  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:06:15pm

I hope the CDC has good Swine Fu to grapple with the Swine Flu.

49 Randall Gross  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:06:55pm

I think that Fox oughta put Glenn on in place of Hannity, he could team with Geraldo instead of Alan Colmes, and they could broadcast from Capone's vault....

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50 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:07:14pm

re: #48 zombie

I hope the CDC has good Swine Fu to grapple with the Swine Flu.

* * * *
I'm counting on Joooish antiviral CHICKEN SOUP!

51 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:07:18pm

Just for fun I googled "missing vials from Ft. Detrick:
[Link: www.google.com...]

Alex Jones My Space blog.

52 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:07:23pm

re: #49 Thanos

I think that Fox oughta put Glenn on in place of Hannity, he could team with Geraldo instead of Alan Colmes, and they could broadcast from Capone's vault....

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They could call it Insanity and Homes

53 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:07:23pm

All this talk about the swine flu is getting me hungry for some BBQ'ed swine.

54 livefreeor die  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:07:32pm
Quarantines on the horizon? Depy. of Homeland Security? They said “Never let a crisis go to waste.”

These brainiacs have clearly not been paying attention. Somehow I'm not worried about any plot which has Janet Napolitano as a key player in it.

55 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:07:52pm
giving Obama the ability to declare Marshall law.

What does the legal system of the Marshall Islands have to do with any of this?

56 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:07:59pm

re: #49 Thanos

I think that Fox oughta put Glenn on in place of Hannity, he could team with Geraldo instead of Alan Colmes, and they could broadcast from Capone's vault....

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Fox ain't stupid. If Glenn Beck loses money or ratings, he won't be talked about here.

57 Truck Monkey  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:08:27pm

re: #54 livefreeor die

These brainiacs have clearly not been paying attention. Somehow I'm not worried about any plot which has Janet Napolitano as a key player in it.

It's a wonder that she remembers to breathe!

58 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:08:38pm

If they weren't serious, and if there weren't so many of them, these people would be better than LOLcatz.

genetically altared

And worshiped at!

Marshall law

As practiced in Marshall, Michigan, my ancestral thorp.

this is a lab creation People

By lab-created People!

Here we go! strap it on tight this may be the ride of our lives.

That's what she said.

They said “Never let a crisis go to waste.”

That guy we had on LGF earlier today. I'm sure he's a lot happier with Beck.

FEMA!

FOAD!

59 zombie  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:08:40pm

re: #47 reine.de.tout

OK, I've got it now.
You are actually buzzsawmonkey in disguise!

Yes, I jet in from New York every time there's a protest in San Francisco. Sure, it's not very cost-effective, but anything is worth it to protect my identity.

buzzsawzombie to the rescue!

60 HelloDare  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:08:51pm

Who would win in a mixed martial arts bout. Swine Flu or Bird Flu. Discuss.

61 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:08:51pm

re: #53 Jetpilot1101

Had that for supper tonight. With some bone sucking BBQ sauce.

www.bonesucking.com.

62 PSGInfinity  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:08:56pm

re: #50 alegrias

* * * *
I'm counting on Joooish antiviral CHICKEN SOUP!

Woodside Deli has some of the best matzoh-ball soup in the area... perhaps I should get a vaccination.

63 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:09:01pm

re: #55 Occasional Reader

What does the legal system of the Marshall Islands have to do with any of this?

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You know that was supposed to be "Martial" law.

I've seen worse spelling here at LGF!

64 Lincolntf  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:09:26pm

re: #60 HelloDare

Ditka.

65 ArmyWife  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:09:28pm

re: #4 Killian Bundy

They think the vials were Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis -

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

There is a vaccine for this (for horses, along with Eastern and Western Encephalitis). Is this what is being referred too?

66 PSGInfinity  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:09:49pm

re: #55 Occasional Reader

What does the legal system of the Marshall Islands have to do with any of this?

What's Marshall Mathers doing in government?

67 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:09:56pm

What is the over/under on a meltdown at around #390 in this thread?

68 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:09:57pm

re: #9 Lincolntf

I love the people who fear "Marshall" Law.
Is it Donyell or Penny that they're talking about?


George. The Marshall plan.

69 Randall Gross  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:10:08pm

re: #59 zombie

Yes, I jet in from New York every time there's a protest in San Francisco. Sure, it's not very cost-effective, but anything is worth it to protect my identity.

buzzsawzombie to the rescue!

I've been reading about Zombie banks too, I didn't know you had banks....

70 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:10:18pm

re: #67 Jetpilot1101

What is the over/under on a meltdown at around #390 in this thread?


Long before that.

71 Truck Monkey  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:10:28pm

re: #61 WhiteRasta

Had that for supper tonight. With some bone sucking BBQ sauce.

www.bonesucking.com.

Are you sure that this site is family friendly?

72 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:10:33pm

Whoops, try this link:

[Link: www.bonesucking.com...]

Great with pork.

73 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:10:34pm
74 brookly red  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:10:43pm

re: #60 HelloDare

Who would win in a mixed martial arts bout. Swine Flu or Bird Flu. Discuss.

bird flu, crain style.

75 Killgore Trout  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:10:56pm

re: #70 Jim in Virginia

Sadly true.

76 kay1212  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:06pm

re: #51 Pvt Bin Jammin

Just for fun I googled "missing vials from Ft. Detrick:
[Link: www.google.com...]

Alex Jones My Space blog

77 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:09pm

re: #58 Cato the Elder

this is a lab creation People

By lab-created People!

No, you fool, this strain was created by Labs!

They've finally decided to wipe us out. And they're using Obama as their patsy.

78 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:13pm

re: #71 Truck Monkey

Yes. Trust me on this...

79 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:16pm

re: #68 Jim in Virginia

George. The Marshall plan.

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Everyone wants a bailout today. Minus the martial law.

80 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:24pm

re: #72 WhiteRasta

Whoops, try this link:

[Link: www.bonesucking.com...]

Great with pork.


Their mustard is the bomb.
I mix it 2:1 with the BBQ sauce and it's great

81 Truck Monkey  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:29pm

re: #62 PSGInfinity

Woodside Deli has some of the best matzoh-ball soup in the area... perhaps I should get a vaccination.

New owners. Not old school Jewish. Was in there 2 weeks ago on a beautiful Sunday afternoon and it was empty.

82 zombie  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:11:44pm

re: #69 Thanos

I've been reading about Zombie banks too, I didn't know you had banks....

Hey, when you practice voodoo economics, you need zombie banks to store the imaginary money.

83 jaunte  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:12:16pm

Here's someone on the Glenn Beck forum suggesting that disease carriers infiltrated the Tea Parties, and then started spreading it on the wind! The crazy tide is rising.

I heard at least 2 kids in San Antonio had it. I don't know whether this is true or not, but here I go... What if they sent biological terrorist plants to spread the flu at the Alamo Tea Party? Stand up Texans and defend your border. The influx of disease carriers are headed our way. I'm no Biologist, but I cannot see how this can possibly be a normal mutation if it contains swine, bird, and human attack mechanisms. Airborne, so now we watch the low pressure systems and weather patterns coming out of The Great Lone Star State, and pray.
84 kay1212  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:12:16pm
85 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:12:17pm

re: #49 Thanos

I think that Fox oughta put Glenn on in place of Hannity, he could team with Geraldo instead of Alan Colmes, and they could broadcast from Capone's vault....

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As long as we can shut the door behind them.

"The thousand insanities of Glen Beck I bore without response,
But when he turned to conspiracies, I vowed action."

-with apologies to Edgar Allen Poe

86 HDrepub  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:12:27pm

re: #68 Jim in Virginia

George. The Marshall plan.

No, no it's Marshall Dillon, or Marshall Tucker.

87 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:12:37pm
88 PSGInfinity  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:12:39pm

re: #81 Truck Monkey

New owners. Not old school Jewish. Was in there 2 weeks ago on a beautiful Sunday afternoon and it was empty.

(Sniff) (Sigh)
I was afraid of that...

89 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:12:45pm

re: #77 Occasional Reader

No, you fool, this strain was created by Labs!

They've finally decided to wipe us out. And they're using Obama as their patsy.

Then explain to me how a Portuguese Water Dog made it into the WH? Is he some sort of 007 lab agent?

90 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:12:59pm

re: #80 Shug

I have to try that.

91 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:13:05pm

re: #73 taxfreekiller

tfk gonna get to be a fly on the wall at a R deal with Michael Steel
then tfk will get one or two words in edge wise

Dear R's,

If your so smart,,,, why is Obama in the White House and Lt. for life John F. Kerry still in the U. S. Senate?
that and all those other crazy ass commie loons runing loose with all the tax monty?
bet that will not make the news wire.

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Enjoy yourself there, TFK. I'm sure Michael Steele is chagrined as are many of us, that Massachusetts prefers manslaughterers and traitors as their Senators instead of honorable Massachusetts politicians.

92 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:13:12pm

re: #76 kay1212

Yep. Why am I not surprised.

93 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:13:16pm
94 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:13:19pm

Glenn is writing the new book : How to make friends and influenza people

95 zombie  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:13:31pm

re: #87 buzzsawmonkey

Joims! Joims everywhere!

You mean -- Jew-oims!

96 J.D.  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:13:33pm

re: #83 jaunte

Airborne, so now we watch the low pressure systems and weather patterns coming out of The Great Lone Star State, and pray.

Genius, huh?

97 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:13:42pm

Please, please don't anyone clue them in to this episode of Joss Whedon's "Dollhouse"!

It contanes top-sekrit hidden messeges abut teh orijin of this plod!1!

98 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:14:26pm

re: #89 Jetpilot1101

Then explain to me how a Portuguese Water Dog made it into the WH? Is he some sort of 007 lab agent?

Coincidence? I DON'T THINK SO!

99 anchors_aweigh  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:14:29pm

The beginning of the end was when "hard news" went "for profit". Ratings drives news content now instead of dispassionate reporting. Fox has shrewdly (surely they they don't believe their BS) staked out the "right" side of the market and the remainder of the market (left side) is being fought over by the MSM and the other cable news programs.

Here is where it's gets funny...the MSM, CNN, and MSNBC evidently have not realized that this is a center-right country and they are fighting with each other over the smaller pie slice of leftist viewers/readers. There lies bankruptcy.

Freedom of the Press has devolved into incitement and hype for profit. The Founding Fathers should have seen that coming in a capitalist society.

What to do....what to do...

100 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:14:30pm

re: #77 Occasional Reader

No, you fool, this strain was created by Labs!

They've finally decided to wipe us out. And they're using Obama as their patsy.

I knew something was wrong with all that cute!

101 Truck Monkey  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:14:43pm

re: #88 PSGInfinity

(Sniff) (Sigh)
I was afraid of that...

It gets worse. They are Chinese. Not that I have anything against the Chinese. I just don't picture them running a good Jewish Deli. The last few times down there were..... odd.

102 jaunte  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:14:47pm

It's strange to see people who normally would complain about a nanny state bitching that the government hasn't done enough to keep them safe from flu.

103 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:14:57pm

re: #97 Cato the Elder

I must uktay two U.

104 Catttt  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:14:59pm

Remember the people who strapped a carrot to a woman's nose and said she was a witch (Monty Python grail movie)? These people remind me of them.

105 snowcrash  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:15:12pm

3 probable cases of flu now in Dallas County, none hospitalized. Gov. Rick Perry wants the (govt) CDC to release 34,400 courses of anti-viral meds for use in TX. Guess that secession idea isn't so great right now....is it.

106 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:15:27pm
107 Killgore Trout  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:15:29pm

It's pretty clear that conservatives and Republicans have been Paulified. Where I get stumped is; How will it be reversed? The Tea Parties aren't the answer. The right wing blogosphere is pretty much garbage these days. I would love Rudy to step up and save the day but he doesn't seem interested.
Anyone have any ideas?

108 solomonpanting  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:15:30pm

re: #10 Cato the Elder

Found on a slab of vintage cheese?

Greenest taste in the Land of the Free
Raised on conspiracies so's he knew every screed
Kilt him a cat just to see it bleed
Glen-n-n-n-n, Glen Beck, King of the wild frontier!

109 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:15:33pm

re: #93 buzzsawmonkey

For the love of G-d, Dark Falcon!

Was my effort that bad?

110 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:15:39pm

re: #83 jaunte

What if they sent biological terrorist plants...

Audrey?

I'm no Biologist..


Then STFU.

111 ArmyWife  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:15:40pm

re: #102 jaunte

Why in the world would you use logic at a time like this? There's conspiracies a'brewin'!

112 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:15:42pm

re: #9 Lincolntf

I love the people who fear "Marshall" Law.
Is it Donyell or Penny that they're talking about?

Must be hankerin' back for the days when the U.S. Marshal was the "law" in town.

113 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:15:54pm

Piggies

114 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:16:05pm

re: #105 snowcrash

3 probable cases of flu now in Dallas County, none hospitalized. Gov. Rick Perry wants the (govt) CDC to release 34,400 courses of anti-viral meds for use in TX. Guess that secession idea isn't so great right now....is it.

Good thing Creationists don't run the vaccine company

115 lawhawk  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:16:24pm

re: #62 PSGInfinity

Woodside Deli has some of the best matzoh-ball soup in the area... perhaps I should get a vaccination.

Chicken soup is always good for the soul and the constitution.

Good places in the NYC metro area: 2d avenue deli (Manhattan); Goldens' (Staten Island); mom's homemade chicken soup (address withheld); and lawhawk's special chicken soup (recipe as follows):

Several pieces of chicken (use what ever is on hand, I usually have boneless breasts, but dark meat usually imparts more flavor).

Chicken gets browned and carmelized to start. Add chicken stock (or water) . Add onion, celery, parsnip, oregano, parsley, basil, and cayenne pepper and hot sauce. On the cayenne pepper and hot sauce, do it to taste (you can always add this at the end, but with colds and congestion, the hot sauce and spice definitely helps clear the sinuses). You can always add a pinch of cayenne to start to let it simmer with the rest of the broth, and add more as a finish with plating.

Noodles may be cooked separately and added in.
Ditto for matzah balls or kreplach.

116 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:16:30pm

re: #91 alegrias

Please do not be dissing Lord Chap of Quiddick.

117 Truck Monkey  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:16:38pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

It's pretty clear that conservatives and Republicans have been Paulified. Where I get stumped is; How will it be reversed? The Tea Parties aren't the answer. The right wing blogosphere is pretty much garbage these days. I would love Rudy to step up and save the day but he doesn't seem interested.
Anyone have any ideas?

DITKA!

118 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:16:39pm
119 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:17:35pm

re: #83 jaunte

, but I cannot see how this can possibly be a normal mutation if it contains swine, bird, and human attack mechanisms.

Manbirdpig is very real! I'm totally serial!

120 BatGuano  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:17:41pm

re: #44 ArmyWife

Ah, to be young! :)

121 PSGInfinity  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:17:45pm

re: #81 Truck Monkey

New owners. Not old school Jewish. Was in there 2 weeks ago on a beautiful Sunday afternoon and it was empty.

(Sniff) (Sigh)
I was afraid of that...

Well, at least there's the Parkway Deli...

122 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:17:46pm

re: #101 Truck Monkey

It gets worse. They are Chinese. Not that I have anything against the Chinese. I just don't picture them running a good Jewish Deli. The last few times down there were..... odd.

*****

Mmmmm, Chinese Hot & Sour Soup would also work as an anti-flu recovery diet. It has tofu and chicken broth, plus egg-drop soupy protein.

123 Killgore Trout  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:18:09pm

re: #102 jaunte

It's strange to see people who normally would complain about a nanny state bitching that the government hasn't done enough to keep them safe from flu.

Heh. All this bitching is so insincere. The right wing blogs are bitching about how the administration should have known about this 2 weeks ago but I don't recall conservatives ringing the alarm 2 weeks ago. That time period revolved around hurt feelings from the DHS memo.

124 TheMatrix31  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:18:24pm

re: #117 Truck Monkey

DITKA!

If Ditka ran for Senate, maybe we wouldn't have had the mess that IS Barack Hussein Obama.

125 So?  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:18:25pm

re: #4 Killian Bundy

/got a linky for that?

That's the one post I agree with. I read the story either last week or the week before. And nobody else reported it anywhere. I mean that was a "newsworthy story" as opposed to Janet's nipple. So I wish I could remember where I saw it, provide a link. Anyway, just google it. It must be somewhere. And that's scary, 3 vials gone missing.

126 Truck Monkey  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:18:26pm

re: #115 lawhawk

Mmmmmmm kreplach. Nothing compares to my mother in laws homemade kreplach.

127 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:18:41pm

re: #108 solomonpanting

Greenest taste in the Land of the Free
Raised on conspiracies so's he knew every screed
Kilt him a cat just to see it bleed
Glen-n-n-n-n, Glen Beck, King of the wild frontier!

"Fought single-handed through the blogger wars,
till the nuts were whipped, and reason was in store.
And while he handlin' this risky chore,
made hisself a legend, forever more.
Char-les. Charles Johnson, seeing his duty clear!

128 Charles Johnson  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:18:41pm

Charles!? Why are you smearing this wonderful patriot? Don't you know that Glenn Beck is the only man who can save America? You're just like Andrew Sullivan! F-ck off and die! Please delete my account, you %^&$# pussy @%$#*&*^! Best wishes!

129 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:18:58pm

re: #106 buzzsawmonkey

Ohmigod! It's the dreaded puppyloma virus!

Calm down. Distemper of yours... it's really something you should work on.

130 aggieann  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:19:13pm

H1N1 “Swine Flu” map at Google Maps, by Henry Niman, Ph.D., of Recombinomics, Inc.:

[Link: maps.google.com...]

For information on Henry Niman:

[Link: www.recombinomics.com...]

Hat tip to poster Kralizec at Hot Air.com.

131 Gus  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:19:23pm

OK, reading some of the other comments at Beck's site. Whew, talk about giving ammo to the left:

Three Mexican Men tried to enter the store through the automatic exit door, as my wife and I approached the CORRECT entrance that was clearly marked ENTER she said "I really can not stand all these immigrants that can not speak English", they were talking in Mexican. So I said in a fairly loud manner "Well the door says ENTER not ENTERO and EXITO so of course they could easily get confused".

This guy thinks Mexicans speak "Mexican." The correct word is spanish and for all he and his wife knew they could have been from Honduras. He goes on to complain about other customers looking at him and his wife -- no doubt they were being belligerent.

Entero -- yikes. He even invents "spanish" words.

132 jaunte  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:19:29pm

Ha! Best wishes.

133 livefreeor die  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:19:38pm

re: #128 Charles

Charles!? Why are you smearing this wonderful patriot? Don't you know that Glenn Beck is the only man who can save America? You're just like Andrew Sullivan! F-ck off and die! Please delete my account, you %^&$# pussy @%$#*&*^! Best wishes!

If Glenn Beck is the only man who can save America, then we are already hopelessly f---ed.

134 Truck Monkey  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:19:49pm

re: #124 TheMatrix31

If Ditka ran for Senate, maybe we wouldn't have had the mess that IS Barack Hussein Obama.

PRESIDENT DITKA!

135 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:19:54pm

re: #105 snowcrash

3 probable cases of flu now in Dallas County, none hospitalized. Gov. Rick Perry wants the (govt) CDC to release 34,400 courses of anti-viral meds for use in TX. Guess that secession idea isn't so great right now....is it.

* * * *
Hey Wise Guy--if they hadn't become dependent on the Centralized Disease Control organization, Texas could take care of this themselves!////sarc

(You do give up sovereignty when you become just another state)

136 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:19:57pm

I remember reading about the missing samples from Ft. Detrick, MD, here last week.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Wasn't this before the government started talking about the swine flu?

137 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:31pm

re: #118 buzzsawmonkey

Not at all--excellent, in fact. I was just quoting from the end of The Cask of Amontillado.

I shout that line all the time, and nobody ever knows what the f**k I'm talking about. (They look around the room... "Montressor? Who's Montressor?") So, upding for you.

138 J.D.  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:33pm

re: #128 Charles
Did you laugh out loud?

139 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:36pm

re: #125 So?

That's the one post I agree with. I read the story either last week or the week before. And nobody else reported it anywhere. I mean that was a "newsworthy story" as opposed to Janet's nipple. So I wish I could remember where I saw it, provide a link. Anyway, just google it. It must be somewhere. And that's scary, 3 vials gone missing.

Army: 3 vials of virus samples missing from Maryland facility

140 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:45pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

It's pretty clear that conservatives and Republicans have been Paulified. Where I get stumped is; How will it be reversed? The Tea Parties aren't the answer. The right wing blogosphere is pretty much garbage these days. I would love Rudy to step up and save the day but he doesn't seem interested.
Anyone have any ideas?

For the next while this game is Obama's to win or lose.

In the meantime, let's moan and wring our hands./

141 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:47pm

re: #118 buzzsawmonkey

Not at all--excellent, in fact. I was just quoting from the end of The Cask of Amontillado.

Reminds me that when I worked for a large computer company, we had an unoccupied cube where we kept equipment. To keep the equipment from walking away, we put a bookcase blocking the doorway, back side out (flat metal).
I put a sign on it, in the best Gothic font I could find, that said
"For the love of G-d, Montresor!"

No one got it. I was very disappointed.

142 Randall Gross  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:54pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

It's pretty clear that conservatives and Republicans have been Paulified. Where I get stumped is; How will it be reversed? The Tea Parties aren't the answer. The right wing blogosphere is pretty much garbage these days. I would love Rudy to step up and save the day but he doesn't seem interested.
Anyone have any ideas?

I've got some, but if I spill them in comments here, I won't finish the series of posts I'm writing. I hate repeating myself.

143 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:54pm

re: #118 buzzsawmonkey

Not at all--excellent, in fact. I was just quoting from the end of The Cask of Amontillado.

OK, got it. Sorry, I didn't know my material as well as I should have.

144 HelloDare  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:20:59pm

re: #128 Charles

Charles!? Why are you smearing this wonderful patriot? Don't you know that Glenn Beck is the only man who can save America? You're just like Andrew Sullivan! F-ck off and die! Please delete my account, you %^&$# pussy @%$#*&*^! Best wishes!

And his worst wishes would be...?

145 anchors_aweigh  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:21:06pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

If you think Fox News blog commentators and the right-wing blogosphere represent modern conservative thought....I have some beach front property in Florida for you.

146 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:21:10pm

re: #99 anchors_aweigh

The beginning of the end was when "hard news" went "for profit". Ratings drives news content now instead of dispassionate reporting. Fox has shrewdly (surely they they don't believe their BS) staked out the "right" side of the market and the remainder of the market (left side) is being fought over by the MSM and the other cable news programs.

Here is where it's gets funny...the MSM, CNN, and MSNBC evidently have not realized that this is a center-right country and they are fighting with each other over the smaller pie slice of leftist viewers/readers. There lies bankruptcy.

Freedom of the Press has devolved into incitement and hype for profit. The Founding Fathers should have seen that coming in a capitalist society.

What to do....what to do...

The media have ALWAYS existed for profit. ALWAYS. It's a business just like any other.

147 DistantThunder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:21:15pm

My daughter is doing a project in her American Government class where she has to create a composite Democrat politician. What we know so far is that it has to be a senator from North Carolina 6 year incumbent running for the Presidency. She have to create a name,
Background including
family,
school, service,
age,
and growing up years

Also have to chose 5 issues to cover during campaign and position.

She has to create a political background of how the person came into power and include something she did that was popular to become senator.

Ideas? She has to be electable..hahahaha....

148 Lincolntf  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:21:21pm

re: #134 Truck Monkey

Jack Bauer for Veep.

149 Truck Monkey  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:21:43pm

re: #136 MandyManners

I remember reading about the missing samples from Ft. Detrick, MD, here last week.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Wasn't this before the government started talking about the swine flu?

I heard on the local news last week that these vials were destroyed, and were not missing.

150 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:22:01pm

re: #131 Gus 802

OK, reading some of the other comments at Beck's site. Whew, talk about giving ammo to the left:

This guy thinks Mexicans speak "Mexican." The correct word is spanish and for all he and his wife knew they could have been from Honduras. He goes on to complain about other customers looking at him and his wife -- no doubt they were being belligerent.

Entero -- yikes. He even invents "spanish" words.

* * * *
ENTERO is a Spanish word, it means "whole"!

151 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:22:17pm
152 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:22:29pm

re: #134 Truck Monkey

PRESIDENT DITKA!

I'd settle for his running for Senate next, and the Bears winning their division this year.

153 TheMatrix31  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:22:31pm

re: #134 Truck Monkey

PRESIDENT DITKA!

President DIT-ka - 421
Dinnerjacket - Tree.

154 PSGInfinity  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:22:32pm

re: #101 Truck Monkey

It gets worse. They are Chinese. Not that I have anything against the Chinese. I just don't picture them running a good Jewish Deli. The last few times down there were..... odd.

Thanks, TM!

Same reason I go to Sakura in Germantown rather than Benihana's in Bethesda. East, rather than South, Asian cooks. They come in skilled with a wok and can pick it up pretty quickly.

Sakura rocks, BTW...

155 Gus  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:22:41pm

re: #150 alegrias

* * * *
ENTERO is a Spanish word, it means "whole"!

Yeah, but he used it as "entrance."

156 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:22:55pm

re: #65 ArmyWife

They think the vials were Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis -

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

There is a vaccine for this (for horses, along with Eastern and Western Encephalitis). Is this what is being referred too?

It's not even mosquito season.

/what does that have to do with a Mexican swine flu outbreak?

157 HelloDare  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:23:07pm

If the Three Stooges were alive today, who would hire them to do political commentary? Fox or MSNBC? There'd probably be a bidding war.

158 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:23:23pm

re: #136 MandyManners

I remember reading about the missing samples from Ft. Detrick, MD, here last week.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Wasn't this before the government started talking about the swine flu?

[Link: www.fredericknewspost.com...]

159 livefreeor die  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:24:04pm

re: #147 DistantThunder

My daughter is doing a project in her American Government class where she has to create a composite Democrat politician. What we know so far is that it has to be a senator from North Carolina 6 year incumbent running for the Presidency. She have to create a name,
Background including
family,
school, service,
age,
and growing up years

Also have to chose 5 issues to cover during campaign and position.

She has to create a political background of how the person came into power and include something she did that was popular to become senator.

Ideas? She has to be electable..hahahaha....

Joan Edwards, whose father worked in a mill. She can be a psychic ambulance chaser.

160 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:24:15pm

re: #131 Gus 802

This guy thinks Mexicans speak "Mexican."

Those bastards should learn to talk American!

161 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:24:29pm

re: #149 Truck Monkey

I heard on the local news last week that these vials were destroyed, and were not missing.

Link?

162 PSGInfinity  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:24:43pm

re: #128 Charles

Charles!? Why are you smearing this wonderful patriot? Don't you know that Glenn Beck is the only man who can save America? You're just like Andrew Sullivan! F-ck off and die! Please delete my account, you %^&$# pussy @%$#*&*^! Best wishes!

Comment of the Day?
/

163 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:25:21pm

re: #157 HelloDare

If the Three Stooges were alive today, who would hire them to do political commentary? Fox or MSNBC? There'd probably be a bidding war.


harpo would work for Oprah
Groucho would work for Olberman
Chico would work for telemundo
Shemp would fill in for Shep

164 Gus  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:25:24pm

re: #160 Occasional Reader

Those bastards should learn to talk American!

Heck yeah! Just like those Canadians coming here and speaking in Canadian! //

165 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:25:38pm

And we thought troofers were nuts......

166 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:25:39pm

oops

those weren't the three stooges


heh

167 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:26:02pm

re: #131 Gus 802

So I said in a fairly loud manner "Well the door says ENTER not ENTERO and EXITO so of course they could easily get confused".

Of course, "EXITO" is also an actual Spanish... oops, I mean "Mexican"... word, but it doesn't mean what that idiot thinks. (It means "success".)

I speak Mexican pretty well, and also a little bit of Austrian.

/

168 HelloDare  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:26:10pm

You'd figure after the government screwed up creating the Aids Virus, it would have learned its lesson. But noooooooo...... . /

169 BatGuano  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:26:11pm

Poe mentioned Glen Beck?

170 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:26:14pm

re: #136 MandyManners

I remember reading about the missing samples from Ft. Detrick, MD, here last week.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Wasn't this before the government started talking about the swine flu?

I'm telling you, watch that "Dollhouse" episode I linked above. It's all there!

[No, I'm not making light of possible funny business at Detrick. That's just around the corner from me. Has there been any follow-up in the media?]

171 brookly red  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:26:39pm

re: #164 Gus 802

Heck yeah! Just like those Canadians coming here and speaking in Canadian! //


Ack! moose flu!

172 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:26:41pm

bbl

173 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:26:41pm

re: #164 Gus 802

Heck yeah! Just like those Canadians coming here and speaking in Canadian! //

Stewardess, I speak Canadian.

/TOTUS

174 6pat6  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:26:53pm

Beck supposedly has a "hands-off" approach to his comments section. The commenters control the direction. This is much to Beck's disadvantage. He needs someone to ride herd on that, since he does not want to.

175 Randall Gross  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:26:56pm

re: #147 DistantThunder

Copy Libby Dole and change a few things?

176 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:27:02pm
177 HDrepub  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:27:11pm

re: #157 HelloDare

If the Three Stooges were alive today, who would hire them to do political commentary? Fox or MSNBC? There'd probably be a bidding war.

I resemble that remark. (channeling Curly Howard)

178 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:27:11pm

re: #155 Gus 802

Yeah, but he used it as "entrance."

* * * *
Also, Central Americans and South Americans' "Spanish" can be mostly Aztec, Inca, or other indigenous languages, making it hard for we Spanish speakers to sometimes understand our southern neighbors, who may not even READ or WRITE standard Spanish.

Much less "enter" or "exit" in English.

179 moonbattery  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:27:16pm

Oh boy.

180 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:27:17pm

re: #141 Kosh's Shadow

You did your bit, soldier. Good for you.

181 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:27:17pm

re: #128 Charles

Charles!? Why are you smearing this wonderful patriot? Don't you know that Glenn Beck is the only man who can save America? You're just like Andrew Sullivan! F-ck off and die! Please delete my account, you %^&$# pussy @%$#*&*^! Best wishes!

I get it, but surely this kind of email counts for squat since there are plenty of whackos on both sides.
Can't you screen out this crap?

182 HelloDare  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:27:32pm

re: #163 Shug

harpo would work for Oprah
Groucho would work for Olberman
Chico would work for telemundo
Shemp would fill in for Shep

Be a shame to break them up. Look what happened to Hannity when Colmes left.

183 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:28:36pm

re: #181 Spare O'Lake

Why? it's great amusement for those of who are not bat-guano insane.

184 ArmyWife  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:28:37pm

re: #125 So?

It was equine encephalitis that is missing. This is spread by mosquito's, and can transfer to humans, but it's rare. Not the same thing we are talking about here.

185 Catttt  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:28:40pm

re: #81 Truck Monkey

New owners. Not old school Jewish. Was in there 2 weeks ago on a beautiful Sunday afternoon and it was empty.

Recentish story about my hood, which has some really awesome delis.

Nosh by the Mile in Pikesville


With a lifetime of pastrami pilgrimages under my belt, I have learned this much: There is good deli, and there is great deli.

Baltimore's northwest suburban community of Pikesville, home to more than 4,000 Orthodox Jewish families and a shopping mecca for the 100,000 Jews who live in the area, is a place that has plenty of both, along with the just so-so. Most of the 40 or 50 kosher and kosher-style businesses are concentrated on or near a mile-long stretch of Reisterstown Road that ought to have an unofficial moniker but doesn't.

Working one's way across the strip could take years and cause considerable heartburn. Luckily, I was able to tap into a higher power, in the form of native son Eli W. Schlossberg, who offered a guided tour.

186 So?  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:29:15pm

re: #38 lawhawk

Bad craziness? Too many hours under kleig lights and not enough time spent reading up on this stuff? That's probably the best explanation, because there's no reason to believe any of this crap.

Sign on to this crap and you'll reek of the stink. It doesn't matter if he sounds reasonable on some other issue - bad crazy is bad crazy.

Beck suffers bad crazy something serious.

Seriously, swine flu is bad stuff but it occurs naturally and mutates regularly - which is why it is so difficult to treat flu from year to year because the mutations make it immune to anti-virals and human immunity is unable to cope until exposed.

It could be a whole lot worse, but it's to date not all that more dangerous that the average flu that hits worldwide and kills 500,000 annually and hits millions with its effects. What has experts concerned is that this version is hitting people who are in good health particularly hard (usually it's old, infirm, and young 'uns who suffer disproportionately from the worst effects).

In sum, Beck is bad crazy; swine flu is bad; be prepared for medical emergencies in general and most of all - don't panic.

If the flu kills 500,000 annually why is there any "war on drugs." Period.
Doing drugs is bad cause it'll mess you up, and even kill you, has been the gov't reasoning for decades. I don't think the number of drug deaths (street drugs) comes close to the flu. So why the fuss?

187 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:29:30pm
188 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:29:40pm

re: #178 alegrias

Also, Central Americans and South Americans' "Spanish" can be mostly Aztec, Inca, or other indigenous languages, making it hard for we us Spanish speakers to sometimes understand our southern neighbors, who may not even READ or WRITE standard Spanish.

Since Goddess isn't here, I fixed that for you.

189 Catttt  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:29:48pm

re: #128 Charles

We love you, Charles.

190 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:30:46pm

re: #188 Cato the Elder

Since Goddess isn't here, I fixed that for you.

* * *
Thanks, I thought it should be "we uns" who speak Spanish...~

191 So?  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:30:48pm
192 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:31:05pm

Charles, you should open up registration. We sure could use a few trolls or sock puppets to bat around this Sunday PM.

193 Gus  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:31:12pm

re: #178 alegrias

* * * *
Also, Central Americans and South Americans' "Spanish" can be mostly Aztec, Inca, or other indigenous languages, making it hard for we Spanish speakers to sometimes understand our southern neighbors, who may not even READ or WRITE standard Spanish.

Much less "enter" or "exit" in English.

Right. Dialects. I remember once someone regarded speaking in Spanish as speaking in Mexican. I'm from Argentina and I almost lost control but let it slide. I've heard people say it before. In fact my ex-girlfriend's mother said that once: "Oh, they speak Mexican."

194 repj  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:31:23pm

All I know is that Obama was on a world-wide tour recently and that he shook hands with a man in Mexico that died of this swine flu the next day. It's a little too 'Twelve Monkeys' for me.

195 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:31:31pm

re: #190 alegrias

* * *
Thanks, I thought it should be "we uns" who speak Spanish...~

Weens.

;^)

196 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:31:39pm

re: #191 So?

Scary, no?

/not swine flu

197 Shug  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:31:45pm

re: #192 Jetpilot1101

Charles, you should open up registration. We sure could use a few trolls or sock puppets to bat around this Sunday PM.

That's like tossing chum into the water

198 Achilles Tang  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:32:13pm

re: #1 Nevergiveup

Where in hell did Beck come from? I never heard of him till Fox dug him up?

Where have you been? He came from CNN.

199 So?  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:32:16pm

re: #184 ArmyWife

It was equine encephalitis that is missing. This is spread by mosquito's, and can transfer to humans, but it's rare. Not the same thing we are talking about here.

I know, but still bad news wouldn't you say? You'd think shit like that would be better protected?

200 brookly red  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:32:17pm

re: #186 So?

If the flu kills 500,000 annually why is there any "war on drugs." Period.
Doing drugs is bad cause it'll mess you up, and even kill you, has been the gov't reasoning for decades. I don't think the number of drug deaths (street drugs) comes close to the flu. So why the fuss?

As far as I know no one ever made a dime selling flu...

201 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:32:25pm

re: #29 Nevergiveup

I hear all the Jews are staying home tomorrow so we will not get Swine flu?

Juice keep kosher, so can't get "swine" flu. It's a Mossad plot!
/

202 BatGuano  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:32:36pm

re: #176 buzzsawmonkey

I read the gold bug once 35 years ago. No coherent memory of it. I will read it and the rest of his stories again.

203 HDrepub  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:32:51pm

re: #200 brookly red

As far as I know no one ever made a dime selling flu...

*rimshot*

204 PSGInfinity  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:32:55pm

re: #185 Catttt

Sweeeet!

I'm out, have a great night gang!

205 So?  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:33:18pm

Anyway, Obama's not worried, he's still out playing golf. They have special Governmental floodlights.

206 TedStriker  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:33:31pm

re: #112 Alberta Oil Peon

Must be hankerin' back for the days when the U.S. Marshal was the "law" in town.

Don't be dissing Matt Dillon now...

/

207 HelloDare  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:33:32pm

re: #139 Noam Sayin'

Army: 3 vials of virus samples missing from Maryland facility

Old story. They found them at Los Alamos National Laboratory when they were looking for those 67 missing computers. /

208 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:33:35pm
209 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:33:35pm

re: #195 Cato the Elder

Weens.

;^)

* * * *
You know English is not my first language so I defer to you.

210 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:33:38pm

re: #194 repj

All I know is that Obama was on a world-wide tour recently and that he shook hands with a man in Mexico that died of this swine flu the next day. It's a little too 'Twelve Monkeys' for me.

Look into that story a bit more - he is believed to have died of a heart attack several days later.

211 Gus  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:34:22pm

More material from Beck, Judge Napolitano, et al should be well on its way come tomorrow.

Maybe they'll invite "infectious disease expert" Alex Jones to chime in. //

212 repj  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:34:22pm

Yeah, people could be dying of swine flu and Obama's out playing golf. Maybe this is his 'pet goat' moment.

/stirring pot

213 Achilles Tang  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:34:27pm

re: #192 Jetpilot1101

Charles, you should open up registration. We sure could use a few trolls or sock puppets to bat around this Sunday PM.

Good idea, but limit it to those at the Glenn Beck site.

214 jaunte  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:34:41pm

re: #202 BatGuano

Here's a nice collection:
[Link: poestories.com...]

215 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:34:53pm

re: #202 BatGuano

I read the gold bug once 35 years ago. No coherent memory of it. I will read it and the rest of his stories again.

It's also a reference to Ron Paul's support of the Gold Standard. During the late 19th/ early 20th century, those who favored the Gold Standard were called Goldbugs.

216 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:35:04pm

re: #1 Nevergiveup

Where in hell did Beck come from? I never heard of him till Fox dug him up?

About 15 years ago he was morning radio jock in Connecticut, half of "Glenn & Pat."

217 Catttt  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:35:09pm

OT - funny - I swear!

Amazon "improve your recommendations" with tags - under Prana Bars, gives me these examples:

Click to Add: fiber, nutrition bars, omega-3, healthy, organic, fresh, convenient, urban fantasy

urban fantasy? Prana Bars are good, but they're not urban fantasy, imho.

218 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:35:11pm
219 Gella  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:35:13pm

does anybody seen this?

Israeli suspected of having swine flu in Mideast first
[Link: www.channelnewsasia.com...]

220 MacGiolaPhadraig  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:35:27pm

This is not good.

NATO member Turkey and Syria hold first joint military exercise
DEBKAfile's military sources stress that it is the first joint military maneuver any NATO member, including Turkey, has ever carried out with Syria. It appears to have received a nod from the Obama administration.
[Link: www2.debka.com...]

221 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:35:46pm

re: #213 Naso Tang

Good idea, but limit it to those at the Glenn Beck site.

He just opened the door. Let's head over there and watch the eggs hatch.

222 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:36:00pm

Mexico gets swine flu, we get schwein fools.

223 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:36:05pm

re: #218 buzzsawmonkey

If one's beloved has the virulent influenza, is that a swine flu swain?

* * **
that's so quaint~

224 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:36:12pm

Ten bucks says that Beck wears a breathing mask on his show tomorrow.

/any takers?

225 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:36:19pm

re: #171 brookly red

Ack! moose flu!

But one of the side effects of moose flu is that you get a nice rack.

226 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:36:20pm
227 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:36:40pm

re: #220 MacGiolaPhadraig

This is not good.

NATO member Turkey and Syria hold first joint military exercise
DEBKAfile's military sources stress that it is the first joint military maneuver any NATO member, including Turkey, has ever carried out with Syria. It appears to have received a nod from the Obama administration.
[Link: www2.debka.com...]

Nope, not good, it is Debka so take it with a teaspoon of salt.

228 Gus  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:37:10pm

re: #224 Killian Bundy

Ten bucks says that Beck wears a breathing mask on his show tomorrow.

/any takers?

What color? Blue or white?

229 BatGuano  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:37:10pm

re: #183 WhiteRasta

I am immune to your aspersions. At least you didn't say bat shit. :)

230 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:37:45pm

re: #220 MacGiolaPhadraig

This is not good.

NATO member Turkey and Syria hold first joint military exercise
DEBKAfile's military sources stress that it is the first joint military maneuver any NATO member, including Turkey, has ever carried out with Syria. It appears to have received a nod from the Obama administration.
[Link: www2.debka.com...]

* * * *
Talk about toxic.
Turkey caused us grief in Iraq, sorry I think they don't deserve to be in NATO and should be kicked out. They are going islamist fast.

231 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:38:10pm

re: #229 BatGuano

I generally try to avoid swearing here.

232 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:38:11pm

By the way, people, I meant to say this on the last pigs flew thread:

Don't waste your money on that "hand sanitizer" crap. It's just a weak, jellied ethyl alcohol (ca. 45%, if I recall correctly) with lots of extra reek from the people who brought you Lucky Tiger aftershave, and it costs three bucks for a weensy bottle.

Get a big bottle of 70% isopropyl alcohol (what the doc uses to swab your skin b4 he gives you autism a booster shot) and use conservatively liberally after hand-washing. Follow with your favorite hand cream, if you're the sensitive type.

233 anchors_aweigh  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:38:11pm

re: #146 MandyManners

The media have ALWAYS existed for profit. ALWAYS. It's a business just like any other.

True. That was not my argument, though.

Here's what I was trying to say; Follow the Money.

234 Salamantis  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:38:11pm

re: #192 Jetpilot1101

Charles, you should open up registration. We sure could use a few trolls or sock puppets to bat around this Sunday PM.

I never thought I'd see Lizards begging for a Beckhead infusion...;~)

235 BatGuano  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:38:46pm

re: #231 WhiteRasta

And I appreciate it.

236 MacGiolaPhadraig  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:39:13pm

re: #227 Dark_Falcon

Which- the report of joint maneuvers, or the Obama nod?

237 Salamantis  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:39:28pm

re: #234 Salamantis

I never thought I'd see Lizards begging for a Beckhead infusion...;~)

And getting it!

238 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:39:35pm

re: #232 Cato the Elder

By the way, people, I meant to say this on the last pigs flew thread:

Don't waste your money on that "hand sanitizer" crap. It's just a weak, jellied ethyl alcohol (ca. 45%, if I recall correctly) with lots of extra reek from the people who brought you Lucky Tiger aftershave, and it costs three bucks for a weensy bottle.

Get a big bottle of 70% isopropyl alcohol (what the doc uses to swab your skin b4 he gives you autism a booster shot) and use conservatively liberally after hand-washing. Follow with your favorite hand cream, if you're the sensitive type.

* * * * *
Soap & nail brush and scrub hands for several minutes under hot water!

239 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:39:41pm

re: #230 alegrias

They will be part of Europe, before too long.

240 ArmyWife  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:40:15pm

re: #199 So?

We'd all like to hope, but where there are humans, there will be mistakes.

241 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:40:35pm

re: #178 alegrias

* * * *
Also, Central Americans and South Americans' "Spanish" can be mostly Aztec, Inca, or other indigenous languages, making it hard for we Spanish speakers to sometimes understand our southern neighbors, who may not even READ or WRITE standard Spanish.

I find it tends to be either/or. Either they speak Spanish quite well (although the accent can be tough), or they speak an indigenous language and little Spanish.

(BTW, it's "Nahuatl" and "Quechua" (or "Runa Simi"), respectively, not "Aztec" and "Inca".)

242 BatGuano  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:40:40pm

re: #234 Salamantis

Fingerlings! next thread.

243 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:41:23pm

re: #238 alegrias

* * * * *
Soap & nail brush and scrub hands for several minutes under hot water!

Followed by isoprop.

244 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:41:46pm

re: #218 buzzsawmonkey

If one's beloved has the virulent influenza, is that a swine flu swain?

If an opera singer dies of swine flu, will she first sing a swine flu swan song?
If Neil Diamond catches swine flu,is it a song sung flu?
(Sounds like Chinese take out.)

245 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:42:53pm

re: #238 alegrias

When I was growing up, the Doctors in Jamaica always kept a bottle of white rum in the office to rub your arm or bottom with, before giving you an injection.

246 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:43:13pm

re: #241 Occasional Reader

I find it tends to be either/or. Either they speak Spanish quite well (although the accent can be tough), or they speak an indigenous language and little Spanish.

(BTW, it's "Nahuatl" and "Quechua" (or "Runa Simi"), respectively, not "Aztec" and "Inca".)

* * * *
thank you as always OR

247 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:43:17pm

re: #220 MacGiolaPhadraig

Debka. Take with very large grain of salt.

248 NonNativeTexan  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:44:21pm

re: #220 MacGiolaPhadraig

This is not good.

NATO member Turkey and Syria hold first joint military exercise
DEBKAfile's military sources stress that it is the first joint military maneuver any NATO member, including Turkey, has ever carried out with Syria. It appears to have received a nod from the Obama administration.
[Link: www2.debka.com...]

My hope is some day we elect a president who will have the intestinal
fortitude to stand up at a press conference and announce joint military
exercises with Israel. And if anyone attacks Israel, the United States
will retaliate as if the United States itself was attacked. All this
dancing around , providing equipment, intelligence to Israel. Just
flat out announce it in no uncertain terms. Let "world" opinion be damned.

249 swamprat  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:44:42pm

If this was still the Bush era, we would be subjected to this sort of insanity from Kos, the usual british tabloids disguised as newspapers, the fine russian news outlets, all the standard nuts.
Now we find ourselves looking at what others consider "conservatives", being just as nutty.

The conservatives are getting tarred by these clowns. Every loud lout seems to have a microphone.

Now I know how American muslims feel when CAIR holds a press conference.

250 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:44:54pm

re: #245 WhiteRasta

When I was growing up, the Doctors in Jamaica always kept a bottle of white rum in the office to rub your arm or bottom with, before giving you an injection.

* * **
Lucky you--our evil visiting nurse "Carmen la Pinchanta" used to smack the spot before wiping with smelly alcohol and stabbing us with her 6" injection apparatus!

251 Occasional Reader  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:45:38pm

re: #232 Cato the Elder

Don't waste your money on that "hand sanitizer" crap. It's just a weak, jellied ethyl alcohol

Useful for travel, though. (Transporting liquids can be messy.)

252 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:46:09pm

re: #250 alegrias

I think I know that woman!

253 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:46:31pm

National Health Care With 51 Votes

Late last week President Barack Obama and Democratic congressional leaders agreed to use "budget reconciliation" if necessary to jam a massive health-care bill through Congress.

Most Americans probably greeted this news with the glazed eyes and yawns that should rightfully accompany any discussion of "the federal budget process" longer than 30 seconds. But this decision is a deeply troublesome attempt to circumvent the normal and customary workings of American democracy.

It's a radical departure from congressional precedent, in which budget rules have been designed and used to reduce deficits, not expand the size of government. And it promises bitter divisiveness under an administration that has made repeated promises to reach across the partisan divide.

Reconciliation was established in 1974 as a procedure to make modest adjustments to mandatory spending such as farm programs, student loans and Medicare that were already well established in law. Over the past 35 years, it has been used only 22 times -- and three of those bills were vetoed. There are good reasons it has been used so rarely.

Ramming speed! You're going to eat the Bonkey dream version of socialized medicine, with zero Republican input.

/and because of the outcome of the last two elections, there's not a damn thing you can do to stop it

254 savarulz  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:46:39pm

I like Glenn Beck but like everyone and everything you have to take it with a grain of salt and do your own thinking. This is just craziness what is being spewed on that site. It reminds me of what I heard in the 80's about the aids virus.

255 Irish Rose  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:47:04pm

Madness, just... madness.
And Glenn Beck thrives on this shit.

256 swamprat  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:47:08pm

re: #191 So?

Scary, no?

No. I would bet this is a book-keeping error, and the vials are in some reseach facility. But I am just speculating.

258 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:48:18pm

re: #254 savarulz

What did you hear about the AIDS virus in the 80's?

259 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:48:31pm

re: #252 WhiteRasta

I think I know that woman!

* * ***
Health professionals were to be feared!

260 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:50:29pm

re: #259 alegrias

I remember the needles being kept in a vial of iodine. Frikking scary.

261 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:51:27pm

re: #253 Killian Bundy

National Health Care With 51 Votes

Ramming speed! You're going to eat the Bonkey dream version of socialized medicine, with zero Republican input.

/and because of the outcome of the last two elections, there's not a damn thing you can do to stop it

* * * * *
Former Gov. Mike Huckabee is fighting back, adding a "Biggest Loser" segment to his show each week, and talking about health.

(You may know Huckabee lost over 100 pounds, and altered his life, so it's personal with him, that Americans can change their lifestyle and improve their health NOW. Without government coercion.)

262 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:52:25pm

re: #261 alegrias

Resistance is useless.

263 alegrias  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:53:47pm

re: #260 WhiteRasta

I remember the needles being kept in a vial of iodine. Frikking scary.

* * * *
not alcohol?

264 jorline  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 7:56:45pm

re: #22 BatGuano

I beg you're pardon?

BR said bat flu...not bat poo. ;)

265 Cato  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:01:15pm

How do these people type in straight jackets?

266 Shay4l  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:11:37pm

I was out of town the last 5 days visiting relatives in Va, but the Washington Post article I read said that it was affecting healthy adults and 80 had died in Mexico City. That is a lot more serious than some people seem to think on this thread.

267 Shay4l  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:18:42pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Yeah, stop making blanket statements like "It's pretty clear that conservatives and Republicans have been Paulified."

268 Capitalistincharge  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:25:30pm

Took a little tour of Beck's site and comments. Those folks are nutso, just freaking crackers! Nuts to the far left, crazies to far right. Jeesuz, what is this world coming to?

269 unpaidbills  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:41:12pm

The colonists from England brought over flu and other diseases which decimated the native Americans.
Diseases and pandemics have been around for centuries, (the Black Death for example in the 1600's) viruses mutate and evolve to combat threats on their existence.
To believe that this is a government conspiracy to usher in the New World Order is insanity.

270 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:45:36pm

OK Everyone -

For what it is worth, I find BECK, himself, to be entertaining. I find these commenters to be MORONS. That is all.

-S-

271 pbird  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:46:29pm

re: #270 Dr. Shalit

OK Everyone -

For what it is worth, I find BECK, himself, to be entertaining. I find these commenters to be MORONS. That is all.

-S-

Pretty much.

272 AverageCdn  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 8:51:38pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout
I don't think republicans have been "Paulified".

I think they have to build up to a level of internet proficiency on par with the democrats, MoveOn, Kos, Beck, etc. They also have to do better or work around the mainstream media and their bias.

But most importantly the Republicans have to find their message.

They have a lot of challenges ahead of them, but I'm sure they will rise to the challenge. If they keep an eye on anti-idiocy sites like this, I think they'll get an idea of what the majority of people want.

273 Irenicum  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:02:19pm

I knew it would only take a day or two for the conspiratorial nonsense to hit big time. I wouldn't be surprised to see Beck show up to his show in full quarantine suit. If nothing else, it'll be entertaining. Maybe it'll protect us from his strain!

274 funky chicken  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:15:31pm

re: #131 Gus 802

OK, reading some of the other comments at Beck's site. Whew, talk about giving ammo to the left:

This guy thinks Mexicans speak "Mexican." The correct word is spanish and for all he and his wife knew they could have been from Honduras. He goes on to complain about other customers looking at him and his wife -- no doubt they were being belligerent.

Entero -- yikes. He even invents "spanish" words.

and that, of course, is the problem. and I just don't get why people can't see that, and will run to defend these lunatics and racists because they supposedly are "our" lunatics and racists.

I don't want pet lunatics and racists, and it shocks me that anybody of good conscience would, and that they would think it somehow is required to try to make a coalition with them.

I don't want to be on Bernardine Dohrn's team, and I don't want to be on Lew Rockwell's team. period.

275 kynna  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:15:41pm

Dang. What a nincompoop. This kind of hysteria is exactly what we don't need.

276 funky chicken  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:22:47pm

re: #266 Shay4l

I was out of town the last 5 days visiting relatives in Va, but the Washington Post article I read said that it was affecting healthy adults and 80 had died in Mexico City. That is a lot more serious than some people seem to think on this thread.

It's very, very serious; however, the definition of "healthy adult" here in the USA and in Mexico is different.

That's why we should not have unfettered migration across the southern border even when there isn't a swine flu outbreak down there. Mexico is a poor, third world country with a medically underserved population, many of whom work in unsanitary and dangerous conditions.

I don't think they have released socio-economic data on the folks who died of the flu vs those who have recovered, but I would guess the deaths have occurred primarily among the poor who don't get to the hospital until they have secondary infections (or raging pre-existing TB) going in their lungs.

Yeah, I could be wrong, of course.

277 funky chicken  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:25:54pm

re: #266 Shay4l

That said, I'm in the process of cancelling some travel plans. My octogenarian grandma was planning a couple of plane trips in and out of San Diego with the family, and it's not smart for her to do that right now.

My daughter is supposed to go on a school trip to Los Angeles next weekend, and I am pretty sure that won't happen either, as the kids were all going to be in a chartered bus for hours on the way there an back, and were all going to stay 4 to a room at a motel and eat fast food, etc.

I'm not a Beckian lunatic, but I don't go looking for trouble either.

278 Skinless Frank  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:49:15pm

This is nuts. New flu strains, as opposed to variants on existing strains, come from where flu hosts are in close contact. Those hosts are humans, pigs, and birds. We see this most often in southern China, where farmers raise ducks and pigs around the same pond. It's interesting that Mexico was the origin of this latest strain, but certainly not out of the question, since similar agricultural practices can be found there. That this gibbering whack job would suggest a conspiracy involving genetic engineering is nowhere near as surprising as that there are enough drooling imbeciles in this fallen world as to afford him a measurable audience.

Smarten up, citizens: bad things happen without evil conspiracies bringing them into fruition. In many important aspects, life sucks. No one has to make it suck, it just does and always has; the challenge is to make it suck less.

279 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:49:41pm
280 Cato the Elder  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 9:54:40pm

re: #265 Cato

How do these people type in straight jackets?

*cough*straitjackets*cough*

Straight jackets are what you get if your tailor's any good at all.

281 mikemontgomery  Sun, Apr 26, 2009 10:29:52pm

I don't feel so good.

282 freetoken  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 12:07:53am

re: #279 4k78

I don't have the time now to go through 277 comments (currently), but was Glenn Beck participating in this thread? Don't most message boards these days, have a disclaimer? LGF does. I'm sure the 912 Project one does. In the past people have criticized LGF for the posts, so why is that same tactic being used now?

The 912 board (linked from Beck's pages) supposedly has moderators, and indeed some threads over there are closed.

The uncomfortable fact for you Beck fans out there is that Beck markets himself to Paulians, Birchers, and other assorted socially marginal folk. Is it all a schtick or is it the "real" Glenn Beck? Only he knows for sure, but all I can do is judge him on what he says and the company he keeps.

283 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 4:29:39am
284 SDC  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 4:36:34am

Wait till the "chemtrail" wingnuts jump on board this one, and it'll be the nexus of lunacy.

285 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 4:50:39am

I thought I'd never see anything dumber than the 9/11 troofers. Until now.

286 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 4:52:33am

re: #283 thebeasle

Piss off, moron.

287 Spartacus50  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 4:57:30am

What is "Marshall Law" anyway?

288 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 5:19:20am
289 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 5:28:50am

re: #279 4k78

I don't have the time now to go through 277 comments (currently), but was Glenn Beck participating in this thread? Don't most message boards these days, have a disclaimer? LGF does. I'm sure the 912 Project one does. In the past people have criticized LGF for the posts, so why is that same tactic being used now?

Notice the title of this thread, genius: "Glenn Beck Fans and Swine Flu Conspiracies". It's about how stupid Glenn Beck fans are. I think it's valid to use the comments of Glenn Beck fans to illustrate that point.

Judging by the thudding idiocy of your comment, I'm guessing you're a Glenn Beck fan too.

290 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 5:32:04am

re: #288 chemicalcorpse

Nice.... very mature and reasoned response to a shared opinion.

Oh, please, not another moronic troll imploring us to 'be nice' about purposely insulting flounce-off posts by disgruntled creationists?

291 nyc redneck  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 5:41:40am

this is the crazy hysteria of uneducated nut cases, w/ an agenda, who have obviously been waiting eagerly for an opportunity to show their ignorance.
we had a terrible flu in 1918 that killed hundreds of thousands of people.
viruses are out there now in nature all over the world, replicating, waiting.
flu is known to mutate and jump from species to species. it was just a matter of
time until another strain emerged to threaten humans.
it is amazing how people will look for anything to use as evidence for their crazy
ideas.

292 quiet man  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 5:43:12am

Groucho wouldnt work for Olbermann (Beck at least has his lucid periods, olbermann is crazy 24/7/365/his entire life!)
Recall this:

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.
— Groucho Marx

293 quiet man  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 5:52:16am

The only conspiracy I see here is the usual one by the NYTs.. It tries to fool people into believing there are still journalists there.

I aint buying it..literally!

[Link: trueslant.com...]

294 MightySkip  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:24:42am

Not to let anyone off the hook, but the media and lazy scientists are partly to blame here. There are dozens and dozens of strains of flu, each type containing sections that are found in others. Virus genomes are very tiny, the number of proteins that make up the organism number around 20.

Reading these stories always make me cringe, because the way researchers are quoted it does indeed make it sound like some genetic experiment because that’s how scientists see the evolution of infectious agents, as a large in vivo experiment. Unfortunately the media are either unaware or don’t care to explain.

295 secondcoming  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:28:01am

I saw a good post over there:

"jpehrlich 0p · 1 day ago

Whoa there folks! I lurk over at the Huff Po and the leftist wing-nuts are going wild with insults, disgusting "jokes" and total mis-information regarding the swine flu.
I come back here to one of my fav websites only to find half the comments here are off the deep end. What gives?!

I have spent the majority of my career as a health care professional with a specialty in infectious disease and here is what I know:
Three strains mutating into one virus is NOT UNUSUAL nor is it a man-made weaponized disease. It happens in nature. One non-viral example you may be familiar with: MRSA "super bug" that has evolved in our hospitals..a staph-strep mutations that is antibiotic resistant.
Pandemic flu hits the 25 to 45 year old hardest because their immune systems OVER react and the mortality rate soars. . Actually children and the healthy elderly recover in greater percentages.
It takes approximately 14 to 18 months to develope flu vaccine.
This is NOT flu season. If this is truly going to be a pandemic the time line will most likely be that the virus will cause sickness at a steady pace over the summer then beginning next November it will go into over drive.

Conspiracy theories are NOT helpful to anyone with a concern for their families. Now is the time to educate yourselves to precaution and prevention should this ramp up."

296 elanagtx  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:31:55am

[Link: timesofindia.indiatimes.com...]

Why are you so certain this could not be bioterror. Remember this episode a few months ago?

297 bj1126  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:52:10am

To be fair to Glenn he spent the first part of his show this morning goofing on the conspiracies.

298 macoishin  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 7:53:21am

re: #232 Cato the Elder

By the way, people, I meant to say this on the last pigs flew thread:

Don't waste your money on that "hand sanitizer" crap. It's just a weak, jellied ethyl alcohol (ca. 45%, if I recall correctly) with lots of extra reek from the people who brought you Lucky Tiger aftershave, and it costs three bucks for a weensy bottle.

Get a big bottle of 70% isopropyl alcohol (what the doc uses to swab your skin b4 he gives you autism a booster shot) and use conservatively liberally after hand-washing. Follow with your favorite hand cream, if you're the sensitive type.


Actually Cato, most reputable gels (e.g. Purell) are a minimum of 65% ethyl alcohol and quite effective against most bacteria and enveloped viruses (incl. influenza.) There are a few 75% alcohol gels out there, and these are more effective still, but harder to find and not really necessary. Soap and water are the most effective (and will eliminate bacterial spores and non-enveloped viruses), but have 2 problems a) they are less convenient (you can carry a squeeze bottle of alcohol gel anywhere,) b) frequent use (like in hospitals) can chap your hands.
Similarly, liquid isopropyl alcohol is quite unnecessary, inconvenient, and can chap your skin and occasionally cause dermatitis. If that sounds like a minor problem remember - even mildly disturbed skin integrity can increase bacterial bioburden 10X.
BTW, I echo #278, Skinless Frank. Mixing avian, porcine and human strains is exactly how new flu epidemics always occur. The virus genome is divided into cassettes that can be easily substituted when brought into contact with other strains, such as happens when pigs, chickens, and humans cohabit. Its called genetic shift and it is teh scary.

299 MightySkip  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 7:58:14am

re: #296 elanagtx

That episode has since been largely considered false. Algeria is one of the few places in the world where plague is naturally occurring and suffers outbreaks. There has been little evidence found to verify some secret terrorist bioweapons facility in Algeria, even a unsophisticated one.

That doesn't mean the threat doesn't exist mind you, but that incident appears to be a false alarm.

300 twobru  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 8:01:08am

Not to be a Beck apologist, but I have to concur with bj1126's post. Beck made it pretty clear during the 20 minutes or so that I listened to his radio show while driving to work that: (a) the swine flu is a natural occurrence; (b) flu pandemics have occurred naturally throughout human history and are often started when different strains of the virus mutate and cross over from animals such as pigs or birds to humans; (c) given the passage of time since the last flu pandemic, the world is probably overdue for another one; (d) he has no idea whether this outbreak of swine flu is the start of a pandemic; (e) rather than getting hysterical or caught up in conspiracy theories, people should educate themselves and make sure that they are prepared in case there is a pandemic; and (f) the government has so far responded appropriately to the current outbreak.

301 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 8:14:50am

re: #279 4k78

I don't have the time now to go through 277 comments (currently), but was Glenn Beck participating in this thread? Don't most message boards these days, have a disclaimer? LGF does. I'm sure the 912 Project one does. In the past people have criticized LGF for the posts, so why is that same tactic being used now?

One way to find out whether there is actually a disclaimer at the Glenn Beck official website, you know, would be to actually visit it and see for yourself, instead of assuming that it has one.

It does not.

302 EaterOfFood  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 8:17:39am

Those FoxNews.com moderators must be asleep at the switch. I assume they're trying to break a record set by that Van Winkle guy.

303 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 8:17:54am

re: #300 twobru

Not to be a Beck apologist, but I have to concur with bj1126's post.

And yet, his official website not only tolerates but encourages hundreds of posts from kooks raving about conspiracies. There's a reason for this -- it's because Beck promotes and encourages these views.

304 Cato  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:01:14am

re: #280 Cato the Elder


In that case, I do not think I want to pick up the suit being made for me!

That is what you get when you are unsure about a spelling and use the spell checker. My wife has compiled a number of these kinds of errors she finds in the Times almost daily.

305 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:02:21am

re: #300 twobru

So what? The post was about his fans.

306 bj1126  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:02:41am

I have to disagree there Charles. I don't think he promotes and encourages them but more along the lines of he doesn't quite know how to deal with them. Then again maybe I'm just projecting too many positive attributes onto him?

I'm not a huge Beck fan. He's on the local station here about the time I drive to work so I hear the first 5-10min of his show. I never am able to catch the fox show since it comes on before I leave the office.

He is a bit out there and emotional and the crazy clingers are attracted to that. Lately though it has been ratcheted up more than a few notches and I would like to think he's having trouble coming up with a way to confront it in good way. If I were in his position I'd be looking for a way to redirect the more well meaning people toward a more sane and constructive avenue.

307 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:31:44am

re: #306 bj1126

I have to disagree there Charles. I don't think he promotes and encourages them but more along the lines of he doesn't quite know how to deal with them. Then again maybe I'm just projecting too many positive attributes onto him?

He absolutely does promote and encourage crazy beliefs -- from hyping a book by John Bircher Cleon Skousen, to devoting two entire shows to end times/antichrist nonsense, to hyping creationism and "intelligent design," to ranting constantly about insurrection and revolution. The guy is simply a horrible influence on the right wing.

308 dahozho  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:13:38am

The fact is, conspiracy theories are bunk. To have 'conspiracies' as big as 9/11, or the emergning swine flu, or even the Kennedy assasination fantasies, you have to have a LOT of people keeping their mouths closed.

Doesn't happen. People talk. They like to talk. There's no talk from supposed 'participants' in these conspiracies.

But to the trwoo believers, its just too easy to believe in 'forces' rather than reality. sigh.

309 historyrider  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:07:38am

GLENN: Right, right. Well, Tammy, I want to thank you for being somebody who ‑‑ and Insiders and people who have been listening to this program for a long time. Tell me the last time that I got a complaint that we were taking things too lightly. I think we've done our job. Tammy, thank you very much for your phone call. If you'd like information on it, I've had my team, my research team last night, I wrote them about 4:00 yesterday afternoon and I said, I want a comprehensive Web page on everything that you would need to know about the swine flu, what you need to do, who you need to see, what it means, what the history is of it, absolutely everything you could possibly want to know on one Web page. You can find it at the front page of GlennBeck.com. You click on any of the stories about the swine flu. You'll see the breakout map, you'll see where it is, you'll see the news stories, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen ‑‑ there's like twenty of them, and you can look at all of the different stories there. I'm also doing a full hour tonight on the swine flu. It's swine flu 101, and it's don't panic, just know all of the things that are happening right now and know the history of pandemics. Could this be it? Yes. Could t his be over by Friday? Yep. Until we know what it is, I just have enough stress in my life. I got enough. I've got enough stuff that's real. Is this real? We don't know. So what do we do? Well, I could get on the air and do what everybody always complains, "Oh, you're taking out too ‑‑ you're blowing it out..." or I could get on the air and give you all of the facts and, you know, if this thing gets serious, this will be the last time we're laughing about it. Might as well laugh while we can, gang. If this ain't it, great. If it is, sucks to be us. So thanks for your phone call.

Taken from his website: fairly self-explanatory as far as perspective.

310 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:50:22am

re: #309 historyrider

He sounds like he's on the verge of a nervous breakdown. In other words, the usual.

311 historyrider  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 12:04:26pm

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

312 grahamski  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 1:02:42pm

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine...

313 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 1:23:53pm

re: #310 Charles

re: #301 Charles

This one's a troll, Charles. Been posting away on the cesspit about it's 'brave' exploits here.

314 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 1:25:51pm

re: #313 Jimmah

PIMF - The above was a reply to #301, not 310.

315 sean  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 2:03:07pm

OK. The best reason that there is no conspiracy on this one is that this flu has no vaccine.

By the time it has a vaccine it's going to have mutated anyway.

The planet has a potential 7+billion virus incubators in human form so we can count on diseases being created naturally. The virus began in Mexico City. That is a very densely populated city. It had a lot of hosts to work with.

It's sort of like the Infinite Monkey Theorem only nasty.

316 historyrider  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 2:08:55pm

I find it really interesting how the SS uniform changes with the times. In the town where I live the SS uniform of the day is: Birkenstocks, ponytail, and petuli. Stamp out the right to talk--and think independently, gang up on the marginalized, and eradicate dissent. Same old game, different players and location.

317 savarulz  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 4:33:37pm

that the aids virus was developed by the government to wipe out so called social classes in america.

318 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 5:59:19pm
319 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:09:45pm
320 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:12:38pm

re: #318 4k78

I just posted this at 1.0:
“I don’t have the time now to go through 277 comments (currently), but was Glenn Beck participating in this thread? Don’t most message boards these days, have a disclaimer? LGF does. I’m sure the 912 Project one does. In the past people have criticized LGF for the posts, so why is that same tactic being used now?”

We’ll see what happens. Honestly, I don’t want to be banned on purpose. Though I sometimes wish Charles would just come out, so to speak.

Nice work, troll.

321 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:19:18pm

re: #319 4k78

I don't think pointing out comments on a website is the best idea.

It is when the subject of the post is the nature of the comments on that website. Or is that beyond the realm of discussion?

And if you want to be taken seriously here, why are you trying to show off to the moronic creeps on that other site? Do you feel you 'belong' there?

322 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:21:33pm
323 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:23:53pm
324 Charles Johnson  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:32:48pm

re: #318 4k78

Get off my website.

325 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:32:50pm

re: #323 4k78

I'm not sure if I should be flattered or scared that you are following me on another site.

Be neither - I am not following you; I check on that site occasionally to see what the frootloops are up to and happened to recognise your nic. And as you well know, you are talking about site that's whole existence is devoted to stalking this site and everyone who posts here, so drop the pretence.

I don't think I've been anything but respectful in my tone

Is posting on a LGF hater site an example of your great 'respect'? And your comment about wishing "Charles would just come out, so to speak"?

326 Jimmah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:34:49pm

Good riddance.

327 pink freud  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 6:36:33pm

re: #326 Jimmah

Omniscience is a wonderful thing. :-)

/re Charles, 'a course

328 Dennis44  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:12:56am

God bless you.

329 Hawaii69  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 4:11:11pm

re: #291 nyc redneck


we had a terrible flu in 1918 that killed hundreds of thousands of people.

Worldwide, it killed 50-100 million people.

Somewhere between .5% and 1% of the world
population died.


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