Saudi Arabia: Parental Permission Required for Jihad

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Saudi Arabia’s latest plan to “reform” jihadis is getting positive reviews from Agence France Presse: Saudis use soft touch to ‘save’ former militants.

The care centre is Saudi Arabia’s front line for ensuring that Al-Qaeda does not rear its head again, after a series of lethal domestic attacks between 2003 and 2006 forced Riyadh to concede the country was breeding terrorists.

More than 270 detainees — 117 released from Guantanamo — have already been put through the centre’s programme to draw them back into the bosom of the Saudi state and persuade them to abandon politics.

The centre is the polar opposite of Guantanamo, where harsh interrogation methods aim to break the will of detainees.

Instead, the Saudi authorities mother them with ample food, recreation and classes designed to persuade them that they may have had good intentions [Translation: Jew-killing. – ed.], but that they had made the wrong choice.

“Now I know the rules and regulations for jihad,” Hammami said. “First, it needs the consent of the government. Second, the consent of my parents.”

“And then,” he continued, “it’s Jew-killing time!”

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108 comments
1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:22:54am

Just. Wow.

2 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:23:24am

What's it called "Therensdat"? The good concentration camp?

3 Thom  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:23:47am
More than 270 detainees — 117 released from Guantanamo — have already been put through the centre’s programme to draw them back into the bosom buttocks of the Saudi state ...

Deviated preverts.

4 Cheesehead  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:24:28am

Does the mothers consent count equally as much as the fathers consent? Mmmmm? We're talking Saudi Arabia here folks.

5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:24:42am

Mommy? May I blow up infidels? Pleeeeeease? Everyone's doing it. Mommy? Mommy? Mommy? Mommy? Mommy? Can I? Please? Mommy?

I'll ask dad.

6 DeathtotheSwiss  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:25:17am

European Idiot: So, this is a step in the right direction, right?

7 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:25:42am

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mommy? May I blow up infidels? Pleeeeeease? Everyone's doing it. Mommy? Mommy? Mommy? Mommy? Mommy? Can I? Please? Mommy?

I'll ask dad.


Daddy..Can I take the new suicide belt out for a spin?

8 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:26:02am

More than 270 detainees — 117 released from Guantanamo — have already been put through the centre’s programme to draw them back into the bosom of the Saudi state and persuade them to abandon politics and take up Religious Extremist ferver fulltime

Hey ,, they don't have midnight basetball to fill the void!

9 Timbre  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:26:19am

Man: Mullah, my parents are deceased and I wish to fight on the path of Allah for Islam. May I?

Mullah: (nods, pointing towards western Pakistan.)

10 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:26:39am

You have it, Charles. The Saudis want to make sure that the jihadis only go after the "right" people - Jews.
Too many were planning to blow up fellow Arabs and Muslims, especially Saudis.

11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:26:47am

re: #7 HoosierHoops

Hoops!

12 Kragar  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:26:51am

I can picture the motivational videos

"Do you want to kill the infidels? Sure, we all do! Why, here come 2 little jihadis now, Mahmoud and Ahmed, lets watch."

13 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:27:05am

re: #7 HoosierHoops

Daddy..Can I take the new suicide belt out for a spin?

Yes, as long as you kill Jews. And be sure not to come back with it, or you will disgrace the family.

14 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:27:27am

Of course, if one of those former terrorists ever tried anything against the royal family, the "ample food, recreation and classes" would replaced by a sword chopping through their neck and spinal cord.

15 MJ  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:27:34am

More from the State Department's favorite Arab ally:

Saudi women face gyms ban

Action taken to shut down unlicensed, all-women fitness clubs, condemned as 'shameless' by Saudi Arabia's clerics


[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

16 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:27:37am

re: #11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hoops!

Hey guy! hope you are doing well today..

17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:27:53am

Is the "bosom of the Saudi state" properly covered?

Uncovered meat and all.

18 simonml  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:30:16am

"Dad, can I go kill infidels?"
"Go ask your mother"

19 brookly red  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:30:24am

These are the same Saudis that are big contributors to American institutions of higher learning, no?

20 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:31:02am

re: #18 simonml

"Dad, can I go kill infidels?"
"Go ask your mother imam"

A Muslim ask a woman for permission?

21 simonml  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:31:30am

re: #15 MJ

More from the State Department's favorite Arab ally:

Saudi women face gyms ban

Action taken to shut down unlicensed, all-women fitness clubs, condemned as 'shameless' by Saudi Arabia's clerics

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

They like their women on the plump side perhaps?

/

22 KenJen  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:31:32am

What a bunch of crap!

23 Occasional Reader  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:31:47am
The centre is the polar opposite of Guantanamo, where harsh interrogation methods aim to break the will of detainees.

Er... no, AFP, "harsh" interrogation methods, and non-harsh ones, seek to obtain information that will thwart terrorist attacks. Idiots.

24 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:32:06am

re: #19 brookly red

These are the same Saudis that are big contributors to American institutions of higher learning, no?

Yes, to institutes that promote the idea that the Islam is a religion of peace, and that the Saudis aren't exporting Islam.
In other words, professors of taqquiya.

25 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:32:21am

re: #21 simonml

They like their women on the plump side perhaps?

/

Like their goats.

26 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:33:00am

Dear world:

Achmed has my permission to kill infidels and Jooooos wherever he finds them and by any means.

Thank you,
Achmed's Mother

27 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:33:36am
28 Guanxi88  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:33:45am

re: #26 Russkilitlover

Dear world:

Achmed has my permission to kill infidels and Jooooos wherever he finds them and by any means.

Thank you,
Achmed's Mother

Obvious forgery; the signature doesn't match any of the sick notes we've got on file.

29 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:34:12am

*swoon*
How sensitive! The Saudi government feels its people's pain.
/sarc off

More likely, the Wahabbists have such a tight hold, the government is forced to soft-pedal.

Why is the Saudi gov't doing this re-education stuff in the first place? Simple. The House of Saud is in the Jihadists' crosshairs and the Royals know it. The House of Saud is tap-dancing between a rock and a hard place.

/couldn't be happening to a nicer bunch of folks ... *spit*

30 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:34:24am

re: #19 brookly red

These are the same Saudis that are big contributors to American institutions of higher learning, no?

I used to be proud of my old alma mater for having a moonbat-free campus, until I read in the last alumni magazine that the entire school has been bought by the Emirate shiekhs, lock stock and barrel.

I guess this means they don't need any donations from me.

31 brookly red  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:35:09am

re: #24 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, to institutes that promote the idea that the Islam is a religion of peace, and that the Saudis aren't exporting Islam.
In other words, professors of taqquiya.

I will save the rant and just say that I have a problem with that...

32 MJ  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:35:38am

re: #21 simonml

They like their women on the plump side perhaps?

/

...and very young:

Saudi Arabia affirms marriage for 8-year-old girl

[Link: www.speroforum.com...]

33 brookly red  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:36:57am

re: #30 Alouette

freakin wonderful...

34 Nevergiveup  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:37:11am

re: #32 MJ

...and very young:

Saudi Arabia affirms marriage for 8-year-old girl

[Link: www.speroforum.com...]

We put people in jail for that even in Utah.

35 simonml  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:38:12am

re: #32 MJ

...and very young:

Saudi Arabia affirms marriage for 8-year-old girl

[Link: www.speroforum.com...]

They tried to make their decision seem legit by saying that first, she's too young to ask a court for a divorce and second, the husband "promised" not to rape her until she was 12.

Yes, I used the term rape. 50 year olds and 12 year olds is rape.

36 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:39:05am

Hello Mommy, hello Daddy
Life is fine at Camp Jihadi

37 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:39:20am

re: #32 MJ

...and very young:

Saudi Arabia affirms marriage for 8-year-old girl

[Link: www.speroforum.com...]

Poor little girl. What a sick society.

38 midwestgak  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:40:20am

". . . put through the centre's programme to draw them back into the bosom of the Saudi state and persuade them to abandon politics."

First, what is the "centre's programme?"

Second, what is the "Saudi state" exactly?

Third, how do they "persuade" them to "abandon politics?"

". . . put through Obama's program to intimidate conservatives into the den of the Fascist state and threaten their freedom if they don't abandon politics."

It could be written that way.

39 Idle Drifter  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:40:40am

There are people you can never reform. These Jihadists are either going to be captured again or killed on the battlefield. This catch and release policy is going to bite us right in the ___!

40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:41:52am

re: #26 Russkilitlover

That is a clear take of on "Epstein's Mom"'s notes. Am I right? Am I right?

41 KenJen  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:42:14am

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

42 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:42:37am

re: #3 Thom

Hey stranger! Where you been?

43 Zimriel  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:42:47am

re: #35 simonml

They tried to make their decision seem legit by saying that first, she's too young to ask a court for a divorce and second, the husband "promised" not to rape her until she was 12.

Yes, I used the term rape. 50 year olds and 12 year olds is rape.

Note also that under Islamic law you need four witnesses to come forward and attest that it is a rape. This is laid out in sura 24 - which I'll admit is not fully legally valid - but more importantly it is also laid out in hadith.

Unless her new neighbours are extremely brave, this girl is doomed.

44 jcm  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:42:58am

In other words no free lancing.
Target authorization required.

45 Kragar  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:43:00am

Trouble in paradise, Obama and the teleprompter have it out on stage;

Laying his plan for a President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, Obama began to name the members of PCAST listed in his prepared remarks – before realizing he’d already introduced them, earlier in his speech.

“In addition to John – sorry, the – I just noticed I jumped the gun here,” Obama said, pausing for several seconds as he looked at the prompter. “Go ahead. Move it up. I had already introduced all you guys.”

46 MJ  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:44:06am

Did you know it takes an Act of Congress to stop the State Department from giving aid to Saudi Arabia? It's true:

H.R. 792, The Prohibit Aid to Saudi Arabia Act of 2009

Detailed Summary

Prohibit Aid to Saudi Arabia Act of 2009 - Prohibits obligating or spending funds appropriated for Department of State, foreign operations, and related programs to finance directly any assistance for Saudi Arabia. Includes in such prohibition direct loans, credits, insurance, and guarantees of the U.S. Export-Import Bank.

Status of the Legislation

Latest Major Action: 2/2/2009: Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs, and in addition to the Committee on Financial Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.

It's been referred to committe which mean the issue is dead. Saudi Arabia will get aid.
Also, when State doesn't give aid, then the government just uses a bookeeping tactic and switches the aid over to DoD.

Your money at work.

47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:44:14am

re: #36 MandyManners

Buzz? How'd you get Mandy's log on?

48 simonml  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:44:20am

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Trouble in paradise, Obama and the teleprompter have it out on stage;

He's so eloquent! [swoon]

/

49 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:45:23am

re: #46 MJ

Did you know it takes an Act of Congress to stop the State Department from giving aid to Saudi Arabia? It's true:

H.R. 792, The Prohibit Aid to Saudi Arabia Act of 2009

It's been referred to committe which mean the issue is dead. Saudi Arabia will get aid.
Also, when State doesn't give aid, then the government just uses a bookeeping tactic and switches the aid over to DoD.

Your money at work.

What the fuck do we need to give them aid for? We give them aid every time we go to the gas station!

50 nyc redneck  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:45:54am

this is all show. so the thug regime look like good guys w/ modern p,c ideas.
if the suadis really wanted to crack down on terrorism they would
shut down the terror mosques that are everywhere in that wahhabi cesspool.

51 Kragar  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:45:58am

re: #48 simonml

He's so eloquent! [swoon]

/

If the teleprompter crashes, I can almost picture Barry nervously whispering to himself, "Please make the words come.....please?"

52 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:46:33am

re: #46 MJ

Did you know it takes an Act of Congress to stop the State Department from giving aid to Saudi Arabia? It's true:

H.R. 792, The Prohibit Aid to Saudi Arabia Act of 2009

It's been referred to committe which mean the issue is dead. Saudi Arabia will get aid.
Also, when State doesn't give aid, then the government just uses a bookeeping tactic and switches the aid over to DoD.

Your money at work.

Why the hell do they need aid, anyway? I mean, it costs them something like $5/bbl to pull oil out of the ground, then they can sell it for the OPEC rate. Ridiculous.

53 Dianna  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:46:41am

Excuse me for one moment.

THAT WRITER IS AN IDIOT!

Thank you for your indulgence.

54 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:47:01am
55 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:47:04am

OK, correct me if I'm wrong, but if Saudi Arabia wants jihadis to ask permission to go on jihad, does that mean we can hold them directly responsible for jihad, and punish them directly if jihad is committed?

56 brookly red  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:47:35am

re: #49 Kosh's Shadow

What the fuck do we need to give them aid for? We give them aid every time we go to the gas station!

is it OK to be angry yet?

57 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:47:52am

re: #55 Honorary Yooper

OK, correct me if I'm wrong, but if Saudi Arabia wants jihadis to ask permission to go on jihad, does that mean we can hold them directly responsible for jihad, and punish them directly if jihad is committed?

Ding!

58 Dianna  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:48:03am

re: #56 brookly red

is it OK to be angry yet?

I think so.

59 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:48:13am

OT: radio bulletin...NYC official says there are 20 more confirmed swine flu cases here, and 17 waiting to be confirmed....nothing online yet.

60 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:49:05am
61 dhg4  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:49:49am

The NYT had a nice article about these de-programming classes in November.

Here's a class discussion:

Finally, someone answered: “We do jihad to fight our enemies.”

“To defeat God’s enemies?” another suggested.

“To help weak Muslims,” a third offered.

“Good, good,” Jilani said. “All good answers. Is there someone else? What about you, Ali?” Ali, in the second row, looked away, then faltered: “To . . . answer . . . calls for jihad?”

Jilani frowned slightly and wrote Ali’s answer up on the white board behind him. He read it out to the class before turning back to Ali. “All right, Ali,” the sheik said. “Why do we answer calls for jihad? Is it because all Muslim leaders want to make God’s word highest? Do we kill if these leaders tell us to kill?”

Ali looked confused, but whispered, “Yes.”

“No — wrong!” Jilani cried as Ali blushed. “Of course we want to make God’s word highest, but not every Muslim leader has this as his goal. There are right jihads and wrong jihads, and we must examine the situation for ourselves. For example, if a person wants to go to hajj now, is it right?”

The class chuckled obligingly at Jilani’s little joke. The month for performing hajj, the holy pilgrimage to Mecca that observant Muslims hope to complete at least once in their lives, had ended five weeks earlier, and the suggestion was as preposterous as throwing a Fourth of July barbecue in November.

“Well, just as there is a proper time for hajj, there is also a proper time for jihad,” Jilani explained.

No indication what the proper time (or conditions) for Jihad is/are. I guess it's whenever and whatever the Saudi government says it is. But the article doesn't delve that deeply into official Saudi sanction of terror other than this:

Jilani’s students, who range in age from 18 to 36, are part of a generation brought up on heroic tales of Saudi fighters who left home to fight alongside the mujahedeen in Afghanistan during the 1980s and who helped to force the Soviets to withdraw from the country. The Saudi state was essentially built on the concept of jihad, which King Abdul Aziz al-Saud used to knit disparate tribal groups into a single nation. The word means “struggle” and in Islamic law usually refers to armed conflict with non-Muslims in defense of the global Islamic community. Saudi schools teach a version of world history that emphasizes repeated battles between Muslims and nonbelieving enemies. Whether to Afghanistan in the 1980s or present-day Iraq, Saudi Arabia has exported more jihadist volunteers than any other country; 15 of the 19 hijackers on Sept. 11 were Saudis.

I think that this article debunks the notion that Jihadis are simply alienated.

Finally, I notice, however, that this guy is not identified by name:

A consulting psychiatrist at the King Faisal hospital in Riyadh says that to truly fight jihadism would mean fundamentally changing how Islam is taught in Saudi schools and mosques in a way that the Saudi government has until now been unwilling to attempt. “The government is never going to say, full stop, that jihad is wrong,” he explains. The doctrine is an integral part of Islamic law, and arguing against it would raise the ire of religious scholars and possibly call the Islamic credentials of the Saudi government into question.

And global jihad is still a socially acceptable path for a young Saudi man with few options, the psychiatrist says. “You have a young man who’s depressed, frustrated with life, maybe he fails an exam. He can go from being a loser, a failure, to being a jihadi, someone with status.”

And it's a status that's encouraged by his society.

62 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:50:04am

re: #54 buzzsawmonkey

... I could write a Ph.D. paper.

I'll *grant* you that.

/

63 KenJen  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:50:11am

re: #46 MJ

Did you know it takes an Act of Congress to stop the State Department from giving aid to Saudi Arabia? It's true:

H.R. 792, The Prohibit Aid to Saudi Arabia Act of 2009


It's been referred to committe which mean the issue is dead. Saudi Arabia will get aid.
Also, when State doesn't give aid, then the government just uses a bookeeping tactic and switches the aid over to DoD.

Your money at work.

The sponsor is a Weiner. Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY)

64 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:50:39am

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

TOTUS v POTUS.

TOTUS wins.

65 Thom  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:50:46am

42 Ward Cleaver

Ward!

I haven't been online much lately, and I missed LFG.

How are you?

66 Kenneth  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:50:48am
“Now I know the rules and regulations for jihad,” Hammami said. “First, it needs the consent of the government. Second, the consent of my parents.”

The Saudi plan: keeping their jihadi powder dry.

67 Eowyn2  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:50:54am

re: #4 Cheesehead

Does the mothers consent count equally as much as the fathers consent? Mmmmm? We're talking Saudi Arabia here folks.

all four mothers must consent to equal the papa's consent

68 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:51:03am

re: #59 NY Nana

OT: radio bulletin...NYC official says there are 20 more confirmed swine flu cases here, and 17 waiting to be confirmed....nothing online yet.

Last night on the local TV news here (Dallas) they put up a comparison graph between regular flu and wine flu symptoms. Swine flu adds vomiting to the regular flu symptoms. I said to June, "Hey, they left off oinking!"

69 lobo91  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:51:38am

re: #50 nyc redneck

if the suadis really wanted to crack down on terrorism they would
shut down the terror mosques that are everywhere in that wahhabi cesspool.

Not a chance that they'd do that, because the jihadis would then turn on them, instead of us.

Most Americans have very little understanding of how things actually work in the Magic Kingdom. The Wahabis hate the royal family just as much as they hate us. The state persuades them to attack western targets instead of them by giving them generous "donations."

Basically, the extreme version of the American left's belief that they'll be eaten last...

70 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:51:41am

re: #32 MJ

...and very young:

Saudi Arabia affirms marriage for 8-year-old girl

[Link: www.speroforum.com...]

What a total perv. Ewwwwwww.

71 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:51:54am

re: #65 Thom

42 Ward Cleaver

Ward!

I haven't been online much lately, and I missed LFG.

How are you?

I'm doing fine, as is the family. How about you and yours?

72 JustABill  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:52:20am

But jihad is an internal struggle, why should you need government or parental permission for that. If you don't get permission, should you not struggle internally?

73 Russkilitlover  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:53:52am

re: #60 buzzsawmonkey


Quick, where's the moly?

Guaca-moly?

74 Cygnus  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:55:19am

re: #51 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If the teleprompter crashes, I can almost picture Barry nervously whispering to himself, "Please make the words come.....please?"

I'd pay to watch that. Bwahahaha!

75 [deleted]  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:58:08am
76 lobo91  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 9:58:47am

re: #61 dhg4

Jilani’s students, who range in age from 18 to 36, are part of a generation brought up on heroic tales of Saudi fighters who left home to fight alongside the mujahedeen in Afghanistan during the 1980s and who helped to force the Soviets to withdraw from the country.

Most of which are pure bullshit, BTW. The Saudis who flocked to Afghanstan in the '80s had very little impact on the outcome of that conflict. The financial support provided by the royal family, however, was a big factor.

77 Eowyn2  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:00:42am

re: #70 Cygnus

What a total perv. Ewwwwwww.


he question of the minimum age for marriage is extremely controversial in Islamic countries. Those who oppose setting one point out the fact that Mohammed himself took a nine-year-old girl as a wife. But women's movements and women in general see it as indirect human trafficking, in addition to its being the violation of a fundamental human right. This can even lead to the abandonment of the Islamic religion.

slavery and rape breezed over but, God Forbid, someone abandons the Islamic religion.

78 MacDuff  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:03:35am

Behold moderate Islam. Alas, this is just about as good as it gets and if BHO thinks he can "negotiate" with these people he's preparing to be an American Chamberlain.

The farther this corrosive ideology is allowed to go, the harder it will be to deal with it. We need someone "standing athwart history shouting 'NO!'" and BHO is not the one to do that.

Iran, the Taliban in Pakistan, etc., etc....very perilous times for all of us.

79 Thom  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:04:35am

71 Ward Cleaver

We're all just fine - enjoying a beautiful August April day.

{hot here in the Old Line State today}

80 kay1212  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:08:13am

So we give the Saudis their jihadis back and they agree to re-train them to wait for the real jihad until a later time. Reminds me of this Ogden Nash poem:


The Bargain

As I was going to St. Ives
I met a man with seven lives;
Seven lives,
In seven sacks,
Like seven beeves
On seven racks.
These seven lives
He offered to sell,
But which was best
He couldn't tell.
He swore with any
I'd be happy forever;
I bought all seven
And thought I was clever,
But his parting words
I can't forget:
Forever
Isn't over yet.

81 Mad Mullah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:11:08am

Maybe the USA should have done nothing when Saddam wanted to invade that country. Besides the oil, what is there worth saving there?

82 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:12:51am

re: #60 buzzsawmonkey

/Are you feeling OK?

Here is the info....and Mayor Booberg is on now, but I am not listening. I put this in the spinoffs.

Hearing him would ruin my lunch....the Demonrat that was disguised as a Republican and an Indie.

Feh!

83 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:13:04am

So do suicide belts come with a warning label - "Kids, get your parents' permission before blowing yourself up"?

84 Gearhead  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:13:17am

So the upshot of this, I guess, is that crime scene investigators have to hunt for a permission slip among the debris...

85 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:13:32am

re: #81 Mad Mullah

Besides the oil, what is there worth saving there?

People.

86 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:13:47am

re: #81 Mad Mullah

Maybe the USA should have done nothing when Saddam wanted to invade that country. Besides the oil, what is there worth saving there?

james baker's saudi buddies didn't want to become saddam's bitches ... so they called in the heavyweight reinforcements and baker delivered.

87 NY Nana  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:15:24am

Bulletin, from the CDC: All trips to Mexico should be avoided due to the epidemic.

/Why didn't they wait a little longer?

88 Ateam  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:16:51am

here you can watch directly via Internet the traditional ceremony of Memorial Day in honor to IDF dead soldiers fighting at Israel's wars during more then a century:
[Link: www.tv-israel.co.cc...]

89 funky chicken  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:18:41am

Better than the onion....

90 funky chicken  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:19:19am

re: #87 NY Nana

DUH, DUH, DUH

Yeah, if they had made the announcement 2 weeks ago....

91 funky chicken  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:23:38am

re: #82 NY Nana

Hey Nana, at least your mayor is willing to admit there are cases of the swine flu in his city.

Have you heard anything from Los Angeles? So, we are supposed to believe that these random, isolated groups of several students from NYC, and from South Carolina, and single businessmen from small towns in KS caught swine flu in Mexico and brought it back, but the (likely) thousands of school kids who visited Mexico over their spring breaks in April miraculously avoided catching anything?

If so, I'd like to sell you my piece of the Brooklyn Bridge.

92 Mad Mullah  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:25:36am

re: #85 NY Nana

People.

I don't deny that there are people there, but I would not mind one bit if their ideology were to disappear for good, and I certainly wouldn't have lifted a finger to save a country whose main exports are oil, Jihad and barbarism.

93 jorline  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:47:14am

Saudi parental permission slip for a jihad field trip.

What's next...new rules for show & tell?

94 Orangutan  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:54:11am

This thread reminds me what a fine film "Lawrence of Arabia" is......and how it depicts events of less than a century ago.

95 Land Shark  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 10:54:29am

Mind you, this is the same regime both Democrat and Republican Presidents have sucked up to. So Jihad is like getting a note from your parents so you can go on a school field trip? Crazy.

96 Dad O' Blondes  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:25:54am

Hey mom, can I borrow the car keys? And by the way, I'm heading over to Mustafah's house to do some jihad training...

Thanks...yes, I'll call if I'm going to be late, geez.

97 hellosnackbar  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 11:28:41am

There's a video http:/jewess.canonist.com(courtesy of memritv)in which
a muslim cleric(and of course erudite scholar) urges the forced closure and boycott of Starbuk's outlets.(his name is:Safwat Higazi)
His reasoning is :the Starbuk's logo is of Queen Esther (a Jewess) who married King Xerxes of Persia.(she was by all accounts very beautiful and
King X was smitten.)
This imbecile(and you thought Glen Beck was nuts) believes that it is the religious duty of muslims to be antisemitic, irrespective of when any targetted Jew lived.
Queen Esther and Xerxes lived 750 years before the ROP was invented by
our pal Mo.
Muslims crave respect but everyday they shoot themselves in the foot
with nonsense that would make a Monty Python sketch seem credible.

98 Ezekiel2517  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 12:00:21pm
99 Pupdawg  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 12:53:30pm

Instead, the Saudi authorities mother them with ample food, recreation and classes designed to persuade them that they may have had good intentions [Translation: Jew-killing. – ed.], but that they had made the wrong choice.

Wait a second. Isn't that the same basic plan put forth by TOTUS spotie-oatie-Obama and his fellow Dem handlers?

100 Pupdawg  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 1:06:10pm

I can see the "Suicide Bomber One-Way Field Trip Permission Slip and Martyrdom Petition" now:

"We the undersigned parents(s) being of Wusabi mind do hear-by give our consent for our son or daughter to blow themselves up while attempting to or actually killing infidels hopefully of the Jewish or Great Satan persuasion. We the undersigned also by signature consent wish to be payed all rewards, monetary compensations or perks in general from our Govt. or other nations of like Wusabi mind related to the specific explosive actions of our son or daughter which will forever be viewed in the Muslim world as an act of martyrdom. We the undersigned also by our signature expect full exclusive rights to the post-boom usage of the visual likeness or name of our son or daughter for which payment will be agreed upon by all parties and made in full (cash only) prior to such visual likeness or name usage."

101 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 1:29:30pm

re: #35 simonml

They tried to make their decision seem legit by saying that first, she's too young to ask a court for a divorce and second, the husband "promised" not to rape her until she was 12.

Yes, I used the term rape. 50 year olds and 12 year olds is rape.

I love it that she's old enough to be married, but not old enough to petition in her own right for a divorce. There is some serious slippage of rationality there.

Her poor mother has been trying to get this damn thing nullified.

Perhaps the husband will die of a heart attack from the frustration of waiting. Then she can be a widow, and go back to the third grade.

102 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 1:32:12pm

re: #54 buzzsawmonkey

The sign which indicates that someone has been cuckolded is "horns," and has been for many centuries.

I am beginning to wonder whether that "horn" sign relates to the "horns" of a crescent moon--and whether the sign is, in consequence, an allusion to wholesale rape during the initial Muslim conquest.

If I researched that, and had an extra life, I could write a Ph.D. paper.

Given that it's a common reference in areas where Muslim armies never went, and that rape by an invading army is hardly unique to Muslim cultures, I tend to doubt it. But I don't know where it does come from.

103 Kozak  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 1:39:21pm

They blow up so young these days....

and

Whole new meaning to the phrase 'baby boom"...

104 Salamantis  Mon, Apr 27, 2009 4:19:32pm

re: #54 buzzsawmonkey

The sign which indicates that someone has been cuckolded is "horns," and has been for many centuries.

I am beginning to wonder whether that "horn" sign relates to the "horns" of a crescent moon--and whether the sign is, in consequence, an allusion to wholesale rape during the initial Muslim conquest.

If I researched that, and had an extra life, I could write a Ph.D. paper.

Maybe it has to do with that plural - 'horns.' More than one 'horn' - i.e. penis - involved in a single vagina.

105 derekrhadley  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 7:10:01am

Our esteemed POTUS is reputedly half-Arab. And probably received regular doses of Muslim training as a boy. Does anybody know if Barry Hussein Alinsky Obama (PBUH) leans more Sunni, or Shia, or is that a moot issue among the Indonesians?

106 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 28, 2009 8:16:11am

re: #105 derekrhadley

If you start with that "Hussein Obama is a sekrit Moslem!" BS here, you're not going to have an LGF account for very long.

107 Macker  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 8:28:12pm

re: #104 Salamantis

Maybe it has to do with that plural - 'horns.' More than one 'horn' - i.e. penis - involved in a single vagina.

Well for Heaven's sake, don't tell the Muslims about this Little Pony:
NOT SAFE FOR WORK!
[Link: www.unitednothing.net...]

108 Macker  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 8:56:39pm

re: #15 MJ

All they want the women to do is stay home barefoot and pregnant.


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