Thursday Afternoon Open
Open • Views: 9,329
Life is like a trumpet. If you don’t put anything into it, you don’t get anything out.
— W. C. Handy
333 comments
3 |
rawmuse Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:13:24pm |
re: #2 Alaska Kim
Beautiful here.... 70 degrees and sunny.
Well, then you have about 6 degrees on me, sitting a thousand miles southward.
| 5 |
Alaska Kim Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:14:33pm |
re: #3 rawmuse
Well, then you have about 6 degrees on me, sitting a thousand miles southward.
we usually have great spring times, but with our luck it'll rain all summer. Hope not though!
| 6 |
screaming_eagle Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:14:44pm |
So did the White House use Air Force 1 to scare the shit out of another city today, or is it grounded until the One finds a new keeper of his planes?
| 8 |
Alaska Kim Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:15:35pm |
re: #6 screaming_eagle
So did the White House use Air Force 1 to scare the shit out of
another city today, or is it grounded until the One finds a new keeper
of his planes?
Did they ever come up with a reason for that b.s.?
| 9 |
hiney von pewps Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:15:38pm |
[Ed. note: this account has been blocked.]
so, i charles going jon cole?
| 10 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:16:10pm |
| 11 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:16:37pm |
re: #9 hiney von pewps
Bye now! Take care.
| 12 |
Cato the Elder Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:16:55pm |
| 13 |
Alaska Kim Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:16:58pm |
re: #10 Nevergiveup
Because they could.
couldn't pay me to live in NY or anywhere around it. I'd be constantly paranoid.
| 14 |
Cato the Elder Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:17:16pm |
| 16 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:18:36pm |
re: #13 Alaska Kim
couldn't pay me to live in NY or anywhere around it. I'd be constantly paranoid.
You get used to it. Ah there are like big animals where you live?
| 17 |
brookly red Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:18:49pm |
who or what is jon cole? & do I want to know?
| 18 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:18:56pm |
'hiney von pewps' is the third username for this particular sock puppet.
| 19 |
Alaska Kim Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:19:00pm |
re: #16 Nevergiveup
You get used to it. Ah there are like big animals where you live?
Yeah, but no flying ones.
| 20 |
screaming_eagle Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:19:04pm |
re: #8 Alaska Kim
Did they ever come up with a reason for that b.s.?
You know the thing that gets me is they made it sound like they didn't know where the plane was. If that's truely the case then we have an even bigger problem of security.
| 21 |
Alaska Kim Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:19:52pm |
re: #20 screaming_eagle
You
know the thing that gets me is they made it sound like they didn't know
where the plane was. If that's truely the case then we have an even
bigger problem of security.
no kidding.
| 22 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:19:55pm |
Any lizards want some standard-gauge Chinese steam locomotives? Can't garuntee a great price, but chances are most of these were in use sometime in the last 10 years.....
| 23 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:20:26pm |
Out of respect for the bride the 50 year old husband divorces his 9 year old wife.
I hope ya dick drops off ya dirty old perverted peodophile.
| 24 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:20:32pm |
re: #20 screaming_eagle
You know the thing that gets me is they made it sound like they didn't know where the plane was. If that's truely the case then we have an even bigger problem of security.
Either that or maybe we could borrow it for an LGF excursion one day?
| 25 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:20:43pm |
CIA's $1,000 a Day Waterboarding Specialists
New focus on 'architects' of technique: The CIA's secret waterboarding program was designed and assured to be safe by two well-paid psychologists now working out of an unmarked office building in Spokane, Wa.
Outing them with names and pictures.
Spokane, WA? Might be that SERE/JPRA School is located at Fairchild AFB, Spokane, WA.
| 27 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:21:21pm |
I didn't get that, and I'm probably glad I didn't.
| 28 |
Alaska Kim Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:21:50pm |
| 29 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:22:02pm |
"hiney" was probably meant to mean something.
/heh ... it was certainly appropriate
| 30 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:22:27pm |
re: #4 Cato the Elder
Time for some jokes?
US infantry man was walking past a 4 story building in Baghdad and noticed Muhammed shaking his rug over the balacony..
"What's wrong, mo, wont it start?"
| 31 |
Taqyia2Me Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:22:47pm |
I'm listening to Mark Levin radio show now. He's saying ABC news is publishing photos of covert CIA operatives:
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
I'm pissed too because this is treason.
| 32 |
screaming_eagle Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:22:47pm |
re: #24 Nevergiveup
Either that or maybe we could borrow it for an LGF excursion one day?
NOW we talking. I bet that plane is stocked with plenty of beer. And we could use it to buzz some South American city. HELLO Hugo.
| 33 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:22:56pm |
re: #29 pre-Boomer Marine brat
As in 'thrown out onto it's [gamey] hiney'?
| 34 |
Alaska Kim Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:23:16pm |
re: #30 A Kiwi Infidel
US infantry man was walking past a 4 story building in Baghdad and noticed Muhammed shaking his rug over the balacony..
"What's wrong, mo, wont it start?"
good one! *snort*
| 35 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:23:32pm |
re: #31 Taqyia2Me
I'm listening to Mark Levin radio show now. He's saying ABC news is publishing photos of covert CIA operatives:
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]I'm pissed too because this is treason.
Scooter Libby
| 36 |
Russkilitlover Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:23:32pm |
| 37 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:23:44pm |
| 38 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:24:13pm |
re: #23 A Kiwi Infidel
Out of respect for the bride the 50 year old husband divorces his 9 year old wife.
I hope ya dick drops off ya dirty old perverted peodophile.
"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."
Ayatollah Sayyid Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini
روح الله موسوی خمینی
| 39 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:24:14pm |
| 40 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:24:22pm |
re: #23 A Kiwi Infidel
Out of respect for the bride the 50 year old husband divorces his 9 year old wife.
I hope ya dick drops off ya dirty old perverted peodophile.
Sorry, forgot the sarc tag re the "respect for the bride" part of that post.
////////////////////////////
| 41 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:24:39pm |
re: #33 Fenway_Nation
As in 'thrown out onto it's [gamey] hiney'?
Who knows?
Someone might use it in the context of "mooning" this website.
/thinking gets strange in momma's basement
| 42 |
BatGuano Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:24:48pm |
I think he means John Gault, if so, he's also illiterate.
| 43 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:25:59pm |
re: #38 jcm
"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."
Ayatollah Sayyid Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini
روح الله موسوی خمینی
I hope his dick drops off, too!
| 44 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:26:06pm |
| 45 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:26:32pm |
re: #31 Taqyia2Me
Huh.....the left got upset when Valarie Plame was 'outed' becuase we all know how deeply they care about the security of this country...I'm sure this will be no different.
| 46 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:27:02pm |
re: #43 A Kiwi Infidel
I hope his dick drops off, too!
Give the way his body was treated at the funeral, it very well may have.
| 47 |
purple Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:27:10pm |
What's the history behind a troll's buttocks being gamey? I missed the beginnings of that one. Although I like using the term- it makes me smile.
| 48 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:27:58pm |
re: #45 Fenway_Nation
Huh.....the left got upset when Valarie Plame was 'outed' becuase we all know how deeply they care about the security of this country...I'm sure this will be no different.
I hear the calls for an independent council? No wait that was just G-D talking to me. Never mind.
| 49 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:29:30pm |
re: #36 Russkilitlover
I have no idea what he was saying.
Me, either, mindless ramblings of a stark raving lunatic troll
| 50 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:29:45pm |
Gates: Sanctions only way to end Iran's nuke program
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
Because History has shown how well they work right?
| 51 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:30:45pm |
Balls are still flying out of Yankee Stadium, especially to right.
| 52 |
Biocritic Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:31:00pm |
"Life is like a trumpet..." is too reminiscent of "Life is like a box of chocolates..."
| 53 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:31:10pm |
re: #47 purple
What's the history behind a troll's buttocks being gamey? I missed the beginnings of that one. Although I like using the term- it makes me smile.
Gamey buttocks is a Monty Python term, are you a fan of the Monty?
| 54 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:31:37pm |
THWUMP........
*Lands with a perfectly executed PLF into the new thread*
| 55 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:31:43pm |
re: #51 Nevergiveup
Balls are still flying out of Yankee Stadium, especially to right.
Is the POTUS there?
| 56 |
Gus Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:32:03pm |
re: #25 jcm
CIA's $1,000 a Day Waterboarding Specialists
Outing them with names and pictures.
Spokane, WA? Might be that SERE/JPRA School is located at Fairchild AFB, Spokane, WA.
I'm speechless. They have it up on the front page at ABC right now. This is all being done because they were given the green light by Barack Obama.
Why even bother working for the CIA as a consultant at this point if someday in the future you will be outed and criticized for something that was once endorsed by even congress and the American people.
| 57 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:32:06pm |
re: #54 LGoPs
THWUMP........
*Lands with a perfectly executed PLF into the new thread*
Welcome, nice landing
| 58 |
UberInfidel67 Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:32:21pm |
re: #38 jcm
They need to put sodomy on the same level as intercourse. And no I am not saying that the other things are OK, but sodomy? SODOMY? WTF?
| 59 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:32:44pm |
By the way, question for all you NY-area sports fans lizards.
Why is it you root for the Mets, Yankees, Knick or Rangers.....but I've often heard the same fans deride the NJ Devils as a laughable Mickey Mouse outfit because they're a New Jersey team.
YET....where exactly do the Jets and Giants play their home games?
| 60 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:32:50pm |
re: #56 Gus 802
I'm speechless. They have it up on the front page at ABC right now. This is all being done because they were given the green light by Barack Obama.
Why even bother working for the CIA as a consultant at this point if someday in the future you will be outed and criticized for something that was once endorsed by even congress and the American people.
that's the point
| 61 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:33:08pm |
re: #55 A Kiwi Infidel
Is the POTUS there?
If he were then they would be flying out to LEFT. Come on get with the program.
| 62 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:33:12pm |
re: #50 Nevergiveup
Gates: Sanctions only way to end Iran's nuke program
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
Because History has shown how well they work right?
sanc⋅tion /ˈsæŋkʃən/ [sangk-shuhn]
1) Opportunity to make money and get rich for looking the other way.
Secret UN Dictionary.
| 63 |
Russkilitlover Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:33:16pm |
re: #25 jcm
CIA's $1,000 a Day Waterboarding Specialists
Outing them with names and pictures.
Valerie Plame could not be reached for comment.
| 64 |
purple Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:33:23pm |
Oh-
I've seen "Life of Brian" and liked it a whole lot. I've got lots of Monty Python in my netflix queue since it seems like something I would like. It's pretty far down the queue though.
| 65 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:34:08pm |
re: #52 Biocritic
"Life is like a trumpet..." is too reminiscent of "Life is like a box of chocolates..."
"Life is like a box of choc-o-lates, in the end all you have is an empty box and some old wrappers."
It doesnt sound right, somehow
| 66 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:34:13pm |
re: #59 Fenway_Nation
By the way, question for all you NY-area sports fans lizards.
Why is it you root for the Mets, Yankees, Knick or Rangers.....but I've often heard the same fans deride the NJ Devils as a laughable Mickey Mouse outfit because they're a New Jersey team.
YET....where exactly do the Jets and Giants play their home games?
That's just disgruntled Ranger Fans.
| 67 |
Gus Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:34:25pm |
re: #60 albusteve
that's the point
Probably so. There was always a push from the left to get rid of the CIA altogether.
| 68 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:34:43pm |
re: #54 LGoPs
THWUMP........
*Lands with a perfectly executed PLF into the new thread*
7.0 6.9 7.0 6.8 7.0 7.0 with a 5.6 from the East German judge.
| 69 |
BatGuano Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:34:48pm |
re: #64 purple
Move it to the top of the queu; you'll thank yourself.
| 70 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:34:50pm |
re: #64 purple
Oh-
I've seen "Life of Brian" and liked it a whole lot. I've got lots of Monty Python in my netflix queue since it seems like something I would like. It's pretty far down the queue though.
No it's not!
| 71 |
Russkilitlover Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:35:23pm |
Around the world, CIA folks grab their parkas against the sudden deep chill permeating the headquarters and offices.
| 72 |
Soona' Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:35:35pm |
re: #6 screaming_eagle
So did the White House use Air Force 1 to scare the shit out of another city today, or is it grounded until the One finds a new keeper of his planes?
Well, since he is the keeper of his planes, then that's not a bad idea.
| 73 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:35:39pm |
re: #61 Nevergiveup
If he were then they would be flying out to LEFT. Come on get with the program.
I am talking about balls disappearing, you get with the program!
IF GWB was there it would be ballbearings being brought in by the wheelbarrow load.
| 74 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:35:48pm |
re: #58 UberInfidel67
They need to put sodomy on the same level as intercourse. And no I am not saying that the other things are OK, but sodomy? SODOMY? WTF?
The whole concept is that paragraph is mind twisting.
| 75 |
Cato the Elder Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:36:10pm |
re: #31 Taqyia2Me
I'm listening to Mark Levin radio show now. He's saying ABC news is publishing photos of covert CIA operatives:
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]I'm pissed too because this is treason.
Private contractors. Not CIA operatives.
Treason schmeason.
| 76 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:36:15pm |
| 77 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:36:49pm |
I think this is the first time I've up-dinged an open thread. I had to. The Handy quote is just too perfect.
| 78 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:36:53pm |
re: #73 A Kiwi Infidel
I am talking about balls disappearing, you get with the program!
IF GWB was there it would be ballbearings being brought in by the wheelbarrow load.
Your losing me. It's probably my fault. I'm tired, but what are you talking about?
| 79 |
Ojoe Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:37:07pm |
re: #25 jcm
As a country we will pay for this folly, and others like it, when we are hit again with a big attack.
You can just see it coming.
We let our enemies have whole countries as sanctuaries where they can raise any army, build any weapon, hatch any plot, and we are too chicken to waterboard the ones we catch to get information about what they are doing in their safe areas.
We are nuts anymore.
| 80 |
Wide Right Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:37:10pm |
Now, a rousing rendition of "Too Much Butt (For One Pair Of Jeans) by The Uppity
Blues Women.
[Link: www.wikio.com...]
| 81 |
avanti Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:38:03pm |
re: #31 Taqyia2Me
I'm listening to Mark Levin radio show now. He's saying ABC news is publishing photos of covert CIA operatives:
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]I'm pissed too because this is treason.
Are you sure he was not talking about the two physiologists that came trained the water boarders ? I saw this, but nothing about CIA, agents, covert or otherwise
"Associates say the two made good money doing it, boasting of being paid a $1,000 a day by the CIA to oversee the use of the techniques on top al Qaeda suspects at CIA secret sites. "
If ABC is really outing covert agents, a investigation of those responsible is in order.
| 82 |
UberInfidel67 Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:38:16pm |
re: #74 jcm
Just emulating the "Perffect Man" I guess. *GAG*
| 83 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:38:45pm |
re: #70 LGoPs
No it's not!
Somebody is supposed to say "Yes it is"......
Come on now. Work with me here........
| 84 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:38:47pm |
re: #79 Ojoe
As a country we will pay for this folly, and others like it, when we are hit again with a big attack.
You can just see it coming.
We let our enemies have whole countries as sanctuaries where they can raise any army, build any weapon, hatch any plot, and we are too chicken to waterboard the ones we catch to get information about what they are doing in their safe areas.
We are nuts anymore.
Gates has taken the military option with Iran off the table.
The media outs experts who advise our government.
Bad craziness.
| 85 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:39:27pm |
re: #78 Nevergiveup
Your losing me. It's probably my fault. I'm tired, but what are you talking about?
The O lacking the stainless steel cojones to stand up to the threat that the free west faces. Instead he bats his balls over left and right field by kowtowing to the enemy in the vain hope(change) that he will earn their respect and thus stop their seething and clenching.
| 86 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:39:56pm |
The CIA's $1,000 a Day Specialists on Waterboarding, Interrogations
The New Focus on Two Retired Military Psychologists Called the 'Architects' of the CIA's Techniques
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
Here's the link. Fucken Bastards. I fucken HATE LIberals. Just so ya know how I feel.
| 87 |
Gus Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:40:14pm |
re: #81 avanti
Are you sure he was not talking about the two physiologists that came trained the water boarders ? I saw this, but nothing about CIA, agents, covert or otherwise
"Associates say the two made good money doing it, boasting of being paid a $1,000 a day by the CIA to oversee the use of the techniques on top al Qaeda suspects at CIA secret sites. "
If ABC is really outing covert agents, a investigation of those responsible is in order.
I don't care if they are contractors. They were working for the CIA and carrying out a task that was sanctioned by the CIA and higher levels of the government. Outing them as such exposes these individuals to personal danger and they were merely employed to carry out a task by others.
| 88 |
Taqyia2Me Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:40:26pm |
re: #75 Cato the Elder
Private contractors. Not CIA operatives.
Treason schmeason.
I disagree, it is symptomatic of an entire movement that hates my country and does whatever it can to destroy it.
| 89 |
capitalist piglet Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:40:41pm |
Life is like a trumpet. If you don’t put anything into it, you don’t get anything out.— W. C. Handy
Blow ye winds,
Like the trumpet blows;
But without that noise.
--Jack Handey
| 90 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:40:55pm |
'I can picture in my mind a world without war; a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it...'
-Jack Handy; Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy
| 92 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:41:23pm |
re: #80 Wide Right
Now, a rousing rendition of "Too Much Butt (For One Pair Of Jeans) by The Uppity
Blues Women.
[Link: www.wikio.com...]
Troglodyte
| 93 |
Russkilitlover Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:41:42pm |
re: #88 Taqyia2Me
I disagree, it is symptomatic of an entire movement that hates my country and does whatever it can to destroy it.
Well, Obama did say that he was pleased by not yet satisfied by the progress he's made so far.....
| 94 |
rightside Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:42:06pm |
re: #86 Nevergiveup
Hands you a glass of your favorite adult beverage. Easy shipmate, relax.
| 95 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:42:18pm |
re: #85 A Kiwi Infidel
The O lacking the stainless steel cojones to stand up to the threat that the free west faces. Instead he bats his balls over left and right field by kowtowing to the enemy in the vain hope(change) that he will earn their respect and thus stop their seething and clenching.
OK. I got it now. Well kinda- the stainless steel cojones thing-I'm down with that. But the Balls to left and right--is that a cricket thing?
| 96 |
screaming_eagle Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:42:59pm |
re: #83 LGoPs
Somebody is supposed to say "Yes it is"......
Come on now. Work with me here........
It might be
| 97 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:43:01pm |
re: #94 rightside
Hands you a glass of your favorite adult beverage. Easy shipmate, relax.
Yeah I could use one. But I still hate them.
| 98 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:43:09pm |
re: #93 Russkilitlover
Well, Obama did say that he was pleased by not yet satisfied by the progress he's made so far.....
Remaking America.....
Into something unrecognizable.
| 99 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:43:43pm |
re: #79 Ojoe
As a country we will pay for this folly, and others like it, when we are hit again with a big attack.
You can just see it coming.
We let our enemies have whole countries as sanctuaries where they can raise any army, build any weapon, hatch any plot, and we are too chicken to waterboard the ones we catch to get information about what they are doing in their safe areas.
We are nuts anymore.
We have put people in charge whose highest allegiance is indulging their own sanctimonious pieties.
| 100 |
wiffersnapper Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:44:00pm |
Unless you're a liberal, where you have someone else blow your trumpet for you and you take all the credit.
| 101 |
goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:44:06pm |
re: #99 LGoPs
We have put people in charge whose highest allegiance is indulging their own sanctimonious pieties.
Well said.
| 102 |
Soona' Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:44:15pm |
re: #84 jcm
Gates has taken the military option with Iran off the table.
The media outs experts who advise our government.Bad craziness.
We aren't going to be violently attacked like 9/11. They've got their little girly man in the oval office and wussies in the congress. They'll just try to take it over by default. (Much like Europe)
| 103 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:44:23pm |
| 104 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:44:25pm |
re: #94 rightside
Hands you a glass of your favorite adult beverage. Easy shipmate, relax.
I feel the same way....I seethe internally but relaxed to the prying eyes
| 105 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:44:51pm |
re: #99 LGoPs
We have put people in charge whose highest allegiance is indulging their own sanctimonious pieties.
teenagers
| 106 |
screaming_eagle Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:45:00pm |
re: #98 jcm
Remaking America.....
Into something unrecognizable.
At least Bugs Bunny only sawed off Florida. This is definitly worse.
| 107 |
Ojoe Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:45:10pm |
re: #75 Cato the Elder
The constitutional definition of treason is giving aid and comfort to our enemies; the civilian vs. CIA employee makes no difference.
| 108 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:45:41pm |
re: #102 Soona'
We aren't going to be violently attacked like 9/11. They've got their little girly man in the oval office and wussies in the congress. They'll just try to take it over by default. (Much like Europe)
A lot of us were saying that 18 months ago.
| 109 |
purple Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:46:50pm |
OK- I've moved "The Meaning of Life" and "Holy Grail" up to slots 13 and 14. I'll let you know how that goes, and if The Flying Circus needs to move up the ladder next.
| 110 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:47:03pm |
re: #80 Wide Right
Now, a rousing rendition of "Too Much Butt (For One Pair Of Jeans) by The Uppity
Blues Women.
[Link: www.wikio.com...]
Well they are certainly enjoying themselves. Hats off!
| 111 |
rightside Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:47:07pm |
re: #104 albusteve
I'm very upset as well, but cooler heads prevail.
| 112 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:47:31pm |
re: #94 rightside
Hands you a glass of your favorite adult beverage. Easy shipmate, relax.
Here is the best part: Bruce Jessen and Jim Mitchell, former military officers,
Probably gave the majority of their Adult lives to this country and that is how they get re-payed?
| 113 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:47:47pm |
re: #95 Nevergiveup
OK. I got it now. Well kinda- the stainless steel cojones thing-I'm down with that. But the Balls to left and right--is that a cricket thing?
No, just covering all options
| 115 |
steve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:48:38pm |
re: #25 jcm
CIA's $1,000 a Day Waterboarding Specialists
Outing them with names and pictures.
Spokane, WA? Might be that SERE/JPRA School is located at Fairchild AFB, Spokane, WA.
I have a friend that used to teach survival there.
| 117 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:49:05pm |
| 118 |
jorline Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:49:17pm |
The CIA's $1,000 a Day Specialists on Waterboarding, Interrogations
The New Focus on Two Retired Military Psychologists Called the 'Architects' of the CIA's Techniques.
As the secrets about the CIA's interrogation techniques continue to come out, there's new information about the frequency and severity of their use, contradicting an 2007 ABC News report, and a new focus on two private contractors who were apparently directing the brutal sessions that President Obama calls torture.
I'll bet these guys can think of something better than waterboarding for ABC News.
| 119 |
Soona' Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:49:21pm |
re: #108 jcm
A lot of us were saying that 18 months ago.
And I'm saying it again now. There has been progress towards it since then.
| 121 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:50:16pm |
re: #115 steve
I have a friend that used to teach survival there.
We used nothing on the detainees that hasn't been used in training at Fairchild.
The detainees ate better than SERE students out in the sticks.
| 122 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:50:27pm |
| 123 |
rightside Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:50:38pm |
re: #112 Nevergiveup
Pathetic. How can someone hate this country so much as to out these guys? It's coming.
| 124 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:51:02pm |
re: #119 Soona'
And I'm saying it again now. There has been progress towards it since then.
There are none so blind......
| 125 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:51:31pm |
There should be an inquiry NOW into who leaked those names, but with this congress, and this presidency....
Grrrrrr.
| 127 |
Gus Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:52:06pm |
re: #122 A Kiwi Infidel
We have our ANZAC Day, you guys have 9-11.
LEST WE FORGET!
Never forget. Seeing this still brings tears to my eyes.
| 128 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:52:39pm |
Well.....not too surprised to hear this, but Colorado Railcar shut their doors forever, despite finding buyers for their DMU self-powered railcars in Florida, Oregon and Alaksa.
That's rather telling when you can more readily import retired Chinese steam locomotives than purchase American-made fuel-efficient and low maintainence (and dare I say, 'green'?) railcars.
| 129 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:52:43pm |
re: #123 rightside
Pathetic. How can someone hate this country so much as to out these guys? It's coming.
Lets see if anyone does get prosecuted for this? Now this is something that the Republicans might take up and use effectively?
| 130 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:53:32pm |
re: #127 Gus 802
I read a beautiful and sad poem about ANZAC day, one time. Right here on LGF.
| 131 |
avanti Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:53:44pm |
re: #87 Gus 802
I don't care if they are contractors. They were working for the CIA and carrying out a task that was sanctioned by the CIA and higher levels of the government. Outing them as such exposes these individuals to personal danger and they were merely employed to carry out a task by others.
Do a google search for their names and you'll find them discussed for over a week. They were found from the memo's released last week by the court order.
I just saw the ABC report on TV, they were hired by the CIA because they claimed experience that it turned out they never had and were hired months before we even had prisoners to torture. They were not shy about bragging about the $1000/day contract.
| 132 |
Soona' Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:54:08pm |
re: #129 Nevergiveup
Lets see if anyone does get prosecuted for this? Now this is something that the Republicans might take up and use effectively?
The Repubs in congress? Yeah, right.
| 134 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:55:02pm |
re: #128 Fenway_Nation
Be thankful you were not called upon to bail them out.
| 135 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:55:27pm |
re: #125 EmmmieG
There should be an inquiry NOW into who leaked those names, but with this congress, and this presidency....
Grrrrrr.
Reid / Pelosi / Murtha et. al. will can for hearings and investigations into who hired them, what did they do etc....
*spit*
| 136 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:55:34pm |
re: #126 WhiteRasta
Hey! When is ANZAC day?
Just been, 25 April, 8700 kiwis and 22,000 Aussie diggers landed at Gallipoli. We lost 2200 and 4700 wounded in one day. The Aussies suffered the same proportion of casualties. Our family went to the dawn memorial service. Very moving. Of a town of 40,000, 5,000 stood silently in the pre-dawn-dark.
| 137 |
Gus Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:56:34pm |
re: #131 avanti
Do a google search for their names and you'll find them discussed for over a week. They were found from the memo's released last week by the court order.
I just saw the ABC report on TV, they were hired by the CIA because they claimed experience that it turned out they never had and were hired months before we even had prisoners to torture. They were not shy about bragging about the $1000/day contract.
They (the media) are all wrong including the Washington Post. Those memos should not have been released in the first place. The coming 44 photos should not be released.
| 139 |
Ojoe Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:57:12pm |
re: #128 Fenway_Nation
Re Green I note that the green molecule chlorophyll, has a LOT of carbon in it (in all versions).
So by that measure, carbon itself is "green".
| 140 |
steve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:57:50pm |
re: #121 jcm
We used nothing on the detainees that hasn't been used in training at Fairchild.
The detainees ate better than SERE students out in the sticks.
That is true. My friend used to tell me about going to the jungles in the Philippines and what they ate with the natives. He would listen to the old men of the tribes tell of tracking the Japanese through the jungles. They would act everything out.
| 141 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:57:57pm |
re: #98 jcm
Remaking America.....
Into something unrecognizable.
I know this is rhetorical but just what the fuck gives him the right to remake America. Certainly not the just the fact that "He Won". This arrogance and taking of liberties is not justified by taking 52% of the vote.
Somebody needs to remind this ass that he is President......of all of us. Not a dictator for the Left.
| 142 |
Gus Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:58:02pm |
re: #130 WhiteRasta
I read a beautiful and sad poem about ANZAC day, one time. Right here on LGF.
Did you? I'm sure there are a few.
| 143 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:58:15pm |
re: #131 avanti
Do a google search for their names and you'll find them discussed for over a week. They were found from the memo's released last week by the court order.
I just saw the ABC report on TV, they were hired by the CIA because they claimed experience that it turned out they never had and were hired months before we even had prisoners to torture. They were not shy about bragging about the $1000/day contract.
You ever hear of "contingency plans" ? While you are trying to be the "devils advocate" here don't be so stupid.
| 144 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:58:17pm |
re: #136 A Kiwi Infidel
Thanks. Sorry I missed it. No mention of it in the North American media.
| 145 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:58:25pm |
re: #130 WhiteRasta
I frequently link a Don Cherry Hockey Night in Canada segment honoring fallen Canadian soldiers the same weekend FOX aired this piece of shit Simpsons Episode on Veteran's Day weekend.
| 146 |
avanti Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:58:54pm |
re: #118 jorline
The CIA's $1,000 a Day Specialists on Waterboarding, Interrogations
I'll bet these guys can think of something better than waterboarding for ABC News.
ABC news was slow to report it, I found stories naming those two back to April 9 th and this one goes back to 2007
"Psychologists, working in secrecy...actually designed the tactics and trained interrogators in them while on contract to the C.I.A.," Katherine Eban wrote for Vanity Fair in 2007.
Psychologists James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen reportedly "reverse-engineered" tactics from a military training program known as SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape), originally designed to help captured U.S. soldiers withstand abusive treatment. They then showed military and CIA interrogators how to apply the tactics to detainees in an effort to break them down, according to articles and Jane Mayer's book "The Dark Side."
| 147 |
callahan23 Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:59:10pm |
re: #127 Gus 802
Never forget. Seeing this still brings tears to my eyes.
And never forgive.
Thanks for the video.
Gotta go 'n' have some sleep.
It is late here.
{Lizardim}
| 148 |
rightside Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:59:30pm |
re: #129 Nevergiveup
I don't know. I sure hope so, but I don't know the legal nuances about all this.
Bottom line: Asshat Broadcasting Company are douchebags, and have my eternal disdain for this transgression, regardless of whether they're contractors or not. Mother Fuckers!
| 149 |
Gus Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:59:39pm |
re: #147 callahan23
And never forgive.
Thanks for the video.
Gotta go 'n' have some sleep.
It is late here.
{Lizardim}
See you later.
| 150 |
Soona' Thu, Apr 30, 2009 4:59:45pm |
re: #139 Ojoe
Re Green I note that the green molecule chlorophyll, has a LOT of carbon in it (in all versions).
So by that measure, carbon itself is "green".
Just think of the footprint of all the unmined coal. We must dig it up and find ways to burn it.
| 151 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:00:38pm |
re: #148 rightside
I don't know. I sure hope so, but I don't know the legal nuances about all this.
Bottom line: Asshat Broadcasting Company are douchebags, and have my eternal disdain for this transgression, regardless of whether they're contractors or not. Mother Fuckers!
Hay calm down, have a beer. Gee another homer to right. What the hell did they build there in the Bronx?
| 152 |
avanti Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:01:18pm |
re: #143 Nevergiveup
You ever hear of "contingency plans" ? While you are trying to be the "devils advocate" here don't be so stupid.
I was not commenting on preplanning the torture, just reporting what's on the net.
| 153 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:01:35pm |
re: #141 LGoPs
I know this is rhetorical but just what the fuck gives him the right to remake America. Certainly not the just the fact that "He Won". This arrogance and taking of liberties is not justified by taking 52% of the vote.
Somebody needs to remind this ass that he is President......of all of us. Not a dictator for the Left.
He believes like many we are a democracy.
He won, he can remake America into his image. In a democracy that would be true.
Except......
WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY!
| 154 |
A Man for all Seasons Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:01:39pm |
Hope and change thread! I need the Lizards Help!
background: Every 2 weeks a bunch of us guys get together and play video games..Mostly golf..Hot Shot 4.
So we rotate who get to play the music.. We have gone through every style of music..
Last week Paulie played a DVD of all the one hit wonders.. That was painful..Do you know how painful it is to putt on a course in Japan listening to my green tambourine?
I need a theme for next Thursday that is really cool and doesn't compel me to want to hang myself in my friends living room..:)
Any ideas? Please
| 155 |
BatGuano Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:02:13pm |
re: #151 Nevergiveup
How far is it to the right field fence? 200'?
| 156 |
goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:02:22pm |
re: #154 HoosierHoops
Hope and change thread! I need the Lizards Help!
background: Every 2 weeks a bunch of us guys get together and play video games..Mostly golf..Hot Shot 4.
So we rotate who get to play the music.. We have gone through every style of music..
Last week Paulie played a DVD of all the one hit wonders.. That was painful..Do you know how painful it is to putt on a course in Japan listening to my green tambourine?
I need a theme for next Thursday that is really cool and doesn't compel me to want to hang myself in my friends living room..:)
Any ideas? Please
Sinatra.
| 158 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:02:41pm |
re: #123 rightside
Pathetic. How can someone hate this country so much as to out these guys? It's coming.
The Left hates this country that much. And I hate them back, with every breath in my body.
| 160 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:03:24pm |
re: #154 HoosierHoops
Koko Taylor. Queen of the Chicago Blues.
| 161 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:03:48pm |
re: #152 avanti
I was not commenting on preplanning the torture, just reporting what's on the net.
The report in the link you provided was pure liberal propaganda, written to smear the Bush Administration. It is so obvious the writer had an Axe to grind, that any "News Service" or "Editor" worth his/her salt would have shit canned it ASAP.
| 162 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:04:03pm |
re: #139 Ojoe
Rail transport in and of itself if fairly 'green'- that's not to say there's no carbon output whatsoever, but every boxcar moved is roughly three to five less trucks on the highways.
Of course the boxcar is becoming increasingly irrelevant in this era of bulk (coal, grain, petrochemicals....hell CSX has a dedicated orange juice pulp train) and containerized freight.
| 163 |
rightside Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:04:27pm |
re: #158 LGoPs
Then they should GTFO!
Breaking news here in VA, 2 confirmed cases of swine flu, both adults, 1 man, 1 woman, doing well, recovering nicely, had traveled to Mexico recently.
| 165 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:05:38pm |
| 166 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:06:18pm |
re: #159 rightside
The Simpsons episode or the CBC segment?
| 167 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:06:21pm |
re: #155 BatGuano
How far is it to the right field fence? 200'?
More or less the same as the Old Stadium. The Wall is less curved and more straight, but the prevailing theory is that the Wind Patterns due to the very Large Concourses is playing havoc with how the ball travels?
| 168 |
avanti Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:06:42pm |
re: #158 LGoPs
The Left hates this country that much. And I hate them back, with every breath in my body.
You need to direct your hatred to the real causes. The memo's were released because of the Freedom of Information act, via a ACLU suit, and a ruling by the courts. If you disagree with the release, don't blame the media, start with the courts, and the Freedom of information act.
| 169 |
rightside Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:07:03pm |
re: #151 Nevergiveup
I don't drink anymore! LOL I haven't watched tv in a couple years, and definitely not any network news in a decade. 'F' them to do something so blatant.
| 170 |
A Man for all Seasons Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:07:08pm |
re: #156 goddessoftheclassroom
Sinatra.
Hey friend! I updinged your idea...But I'd probably get beat up by 7 big guys if I tried Sinatra...Somebody suggested Koko Taylor or something like that..Blues..Sounds cool and obscure and I'd probably live to play another day..
| 172 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:07:36pm |
re: #163 rightside
Then they should GTFO!
Breaking news here in VA, 2 confirmed cases of swine flu, both adults, 1 man, 1 woman, doing well, recovering nicely, had traveled to Mexico recently.
Can we bill Mexico for this? Along with all the health and education care we give to their citizens?
| 174 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:08:17pm |
re: #168 avanti
You need to direct your hatred to the real causes. The memo's were released because of the Freedom of Information act, via a ACLU suit, and a ruling by the courts. If you disagree with the release, don't blame the media, start with the courts, and the Freedom of information act.
There was a time the Media loved this country and didn't try to hurt it.
| 176 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:09:03pm |
re: #170 HoosierHoops
Me! Me! I suggested Koko Taylor. I just love that woman.
[Link: www.kokotaylor.com...]
| 177 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:09:19pm |
re: #169 rightside
I don't drink anymore! LOL I haven't watched tv in a couple years, and definitely not any network news in a decade. 'F' them to do something so blatant.
Well to steal a line from the "BirdCage" : Maybe it's time to start again? Just kidding.
| 178 |
goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:09:29pm |
re: #170 HoosierHoops
Hey friend! I updinged your idea...But I'd probably get beat up by 7 big guys if I tried Sinatra...Somebody suggested Koko Taylor or something like that..Blues..Sounds cool and obscure and I'd probably live to play another day..
| 179 |
brookly red Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:09:34pm |
re: #168 avanti
You need to direct your hatred to the real causes. The memo's were released because of the Freedom of Information act, via a ACLU suit, and a ruling by the courts. If you disagree with the release, don't blame the media, start with the courts, and the Freedom of information act.
just because it was released doesn't mean it had to be published, the intent is despicable.
| 180 |
alegrias Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:09:52pm |
W.C. Handy must have died before America became the land of the free stuff!
Now some Americans get billions after blowing out their businesses.
| 181 |
BatGuano Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:10:14pm |
re: #167 Nevergiveup
Makes sense. The shape of a stadium can affect wing patterns locally, like Candelstick where the wind whirl like a mini tornado.
| 182 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:10:21pm |
re: #171 rightside
Let me know if this works- if so, you shall behold Don Cherry, a very stirring rendition of The Maple Leaf Forever on bagpipes and even a touching PSA for Veteran's liscense plates for the province of Ontario.
| 183 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:10:41pm |
re: #154 HoosierHoops
Hope and change thread! I need the Lizards Help!
background: Every 2 weeks a bunch of us guys get together and play video games..Mostly golf..Hot Shot 4.
So we rotate who get to play the music.. We have gone through every style of music..
Last week Paulie played a DVD of all the one hit wonders.. That was painful..Do you know how painful it is to putt on a course in Japan listening to my green tambourine?
I need a theme for next Thursday that is really cool and doesn't compel me to want to hang myself in my friends living room..:)Sorry. A lot of my favorites involve women being whiny in a minor key.
Any ideas? Please
| 184 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:11:16pm |
re: #168 avanti
You need to direct your hatred to the real causes. The memo's were released because of the Freedom of Information act, via a ACLU suit, and a ruling by the courts. If you disagree with the release, don't blame the media, start with the courts, and the Freedom of information act.
I'll start with the ACLU and the motherfucking America hating Left that supports them. The same fucking left that wakes up every morning and thinks, "Man this country is the source of all evil in the world".
I wake up every morning grateful to be living in the most wonderful country this world has ever seen. The Left needs to go find someplace else to fuck up.
| 185 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:11:36pm |
Lets try this again:
Hope and change thread! I need the Lizards Help!
background: Every 2 weeks a bunch of us guys get together and play video games..Mostly golf..Hot Shot 4.
So we rotate who get to play the music.. We have gone through every style of music..
Last week Paulie played a DVD of all the one hit wonders.. That was painful..Do you know how painful it is to putt on a course in Japan listening to my green tambourine?
I need a theme for next Thursday that is really cool and doesn't compel me to want to hang myself in my friends living room..:)
Any ideas? Please
Sorry. A lot of my favorites involve women being whiny in a minor key.
Now the answer is in the right place.
| 186 |
TheAntichrist Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:12:20pm |
I guess an open thread is a good spot for an episode of Ahmed & Salim:
| 188 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:12:27pm |
re: #176 WhiteRasta
Me! Me! I suggested Koko Taylor. I just love that woman.
[Link: www.kokotaylor.com...]
you and be both brotha
| 189 |
avanti Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:12:41pm |
re: #161 Nevergiveup
The report in the link you provided was pure liberal propaganda, written to smear the Bush Administration. It is so obvious the writer had an Axe to grind, that any "News Service" or "Editor" worth his/her salt would have shit canned it ASAP.
Fine, I was just trying to show how old the news was, since it seemed everyone was ready to blame ABC for treason when the news has been on the net for over a week.
With a little work, you could find out who first broke the names, but the 2007 Vanity Fair report even predates the memo's release.
If you are forming up a lynch mob, it's a good idea to find the true villain.
| 190 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:12:51pm |
re: #184 LGoPs
HEAR, HEAR! Let the leftie jerks go live in Haiti or Somalia for one week.
| 191 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:13:29pm |
re: #168 avanti
You need to direct your hatred to the real causes. The memo's were released because of the Freedom of Information act, via a ACLU suit, and a ruling by the courts. If you disagree with the release, don't blame the media, start with the courts, and the Freedom of information act.
The Executive branch could have refused.
Executive Priviledge.
National Security.
Two former AGs and a former DCI disagree with you and the administration.
They didn't have to release them. They chose to.
| 192 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:13:35pm |
re: #184 LGoPs
I regret that I have but one upding to give.....
| 193 |
A Man for all Seasons Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:14:02pm |
re: #176 WhiteRasta
Me! Me! I suggested Koko Taylor. I just love that woman.
[Link: www.kokotaylor.com...]
We have a winner! I'll blow the boys away next Thursday! Thank you!
I'm just thankful nobody suggested the Beatles or Stones..We've been doing this for years...one week we listened to bluegrass all night.. I wanted to play banjo on the porch and spit tobacco..It's wasn't pretty
| 194 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:14:14pm |
re: #191 jcm
The Executive branch could have refused.
Executive Priviledge.
National Security.Two former AGs and a former DCI disagree with you and the administration.
They didn't have to release them. They chose to.
Fucking A.
| 195 |
livefreeor die Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:14:39pm |
re: #38 jcm
"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."
Ayatollah Sayyid Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini
روح الله موسوی خمینی
Boy am I glad that there is a whole government built around this man's teachings.
//////////////////////////////////////////////
| 196 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:14:57pm |
re: #184 LGoPs
I'm not quite sure I'm clear on whether or not you like the left. Could you clarify?
*grin*
On second thought, no. You might run into one of Charles' filters.
| 197 |
goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:15:14pm |
Hey, has anyone heard an update from Capitalistincharge about his/her son-in-law?
| 198 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:15:40pm |
Since this is the open thread, how exactly do I embed a YouTube video again?
| 199 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:16:21pm |
re: #198 Fenway_Nation
Since this is the open thread, how exactly do I embed a YouTube video again?
Paste the Youtube url.
Charles magic box does the embedding.
| 200 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:16:49pm |
re: #189 avanti
Fine, I was just trying to show how old the news was, since it seemed everyone was ready to blame ABC for treason when the news has been on the net for over a week.
With a little work, you could find out who first broke the names, but the 2007 Vanity Fair report even predates the memo's release.
If you are forming up a lynch mob, it's a good idea to find the true villain.
In my opinion they all are. This guys were doing more classified work for the USA than Valerie Plame and her Lying Husband could ever dream of. I'd like to see some righteous indignation form the Left, or otherwise just admit their only aim was to bring down the Bush Presidency. Why don't you stop defending the left and start defending America.
| 201 |
A Man for all Seasons Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:16:49pm |
re: #185 EmmmieG
Lets try this again:
Hope and change thread! I need the Lizards Help!
background: Every 2 weeks a bunch of us guys get together and play video games..Mostly golf..Hot Shot 4.
So we rotate who get to play the music.. We have gone through every style of music..
Last week Paulie played a DVD of all the one hit wonders.. That was painful..Do you know how painful it is to putt on a course in Japan listening to my green tambourine?
I need a theme for next Thursday that is really cool and doesn't compel me to want to hang myself in my friends living room..:)Any ideas? Please
Sorry. A lot of my favorites involve women being whiny in a minor key.
Now the answer is in the right place.
I can't believe I'm going to post this..
I love Paula Cole...
OK I said it!
| 204 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:18:35pm |
re: #198 Fenway_Nation
Since this is the open thread, how exactly do I embed a YouTube video again?
it embeds by itself!....cut and past the addy
| 205 |
A Man for all Seasons Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:18:37pm |
| 206 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:19:08pm |
re: #202 NYCHardhat
The reason I posted re: #38 jcm
"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."
Ayatollah Sayyid Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini
روح الله موسوی خمینی
| 207 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:19:45pm |
re: #205 HoosierHoops
Didn't he play the soundtrack to Crossroads?
yes...he played the kid's stuff...Cooder is a treasure
| 209 |
jcm Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:21:06pm |
Gotta Run........
A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce, or a tragedy, or perhaps both.
James Madison
The prologue is written, we've entered Act I.
| 210 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:21:07pm |
While The Simpsons writers took it upon themselves to denigrate American soldiers in an episode that aired Veteran's Day weekend back in 2006, this is what was airing North of the Border less than 24 hours prior:
| 211 |
Catttt Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:21:44pm |
My new Roomba (the greatest thing since sliced bread) is keeping my cats awake days. :D
| 212 |
A Man for all Seasons Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:21:52pm |
re: #207 albusteve
yes...he played the kid's stuff...Cooder is a treasure
That was awesome..Come on you are the resident music guru..What theme should I be playing next week? Something everybody goes..That was some cool shit! Suggestions?
| 213 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:21:56pm |
Yay! My 1st post with an embedded video!
| 214 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:22:14pm |
| 215 |
melvinwinter Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:22:24pm |
Folks here might enjoy these satirical, and sometimes cutting, pieces on the Obama Administration's release of the interrogation memos and its anti-terrorism and Iraq policies generally. Check them out if you have a few seconds:
[Link: optoons.blogspot.com...]
[Link: optoons.blogspot.com...]
[Link: optoons.blogspot.com...]
| 216 |
CyanSnowHawk Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:22:50pm |
Mrs. Hawk was laid off today.
Dammit
Dammit
Dammit
| 217 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:22:54pm |
re: #211 Catttt
I've looked into those before. I really want one but it's just not in my budget for now. I can't wait.
| 218 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:23:41pm |
re: #216 CyanSnowHawk
Mrs. Hawk was laid off today.
Dammit
Dammit
Dammit
I am truly sorry to hear that.
| 219 |
NYCHardhat Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:23:47pm |
re: #206 jcm
Any man or woman that looks me straight in the eye and defends this sort of culture is a disgrace.
| 221 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:23:58pm |
re: #212 HoosierHoops
That was awesome..Come on you are the resident music guru..What theme should I be playing next week? Something everybody goes..That was some cool shit! Suggestions?
I'm no guru...shame on you
Little Feat....everybody love some Feat...can't miss
| 222 |
livefreeor die Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:24:15pm |
re: #216 CyanSnowHawk
Mrs. Hawk was laid off today.
Dammit
Dammit
Dammit
Give her my condolences. Was it expected?
| 223 |
Catttt Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:24:30pm |
re: #217 Killgore Trout
I've looked into those before. I really want one but it's just not in my budget for now. I can't wait.
Overstock has reconditioned ones for apx 130 clams - don't know if that's in your budget, hon, but it's the lowest price I've seen. Mine is a reconditioned one from Overstock and I LOVE IT SO MUCH so much so much. Have I mentioned I really loathe vacuuming - until now? :D
| 224 |
Ziggy Standard Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:24:41pm |
I Baptazia thee in the name of the holy ghost:
| 225 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:24:46pm |
re: #216 CyanSnowHawk
That sucks....it's been a little over a month for me. I've been getting by mostly on odd jobs and unemployment for the time being....
| 227 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:25:57pm |
re: #223 Catttt
That's a good price but when my mortgage clears on the 1st I'll have about $50 left in my account. I'm really cutting it close these days.
| 228 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:26:11pm |
CALEXICO, Calif. (AP) - The hottest thing on the griddle at the Las Palmas restaurant these days isn't the food—it's the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe that a cook says she saw on the griddle.
Restaurant manager Brenda Martinez says more than 100 people have flocked to the small town of Calexico on the California-Mexico border to gaze at the likeness of the Virgin Mary since it was discovered as the griddle was being cleaned.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
What's that drug they eat out there in the desert?
| 229 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:26:30pm |
re: #219 NYCHardhat
That is embedded in the "culture " of the muslim world. Pedophelia, incest etc, etc.
The middle East is truly depraved. With the exception of Israel.
| 230 |
goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:26:34pm |
| 231 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:26:36pm |
re: #217 Killgore Trout
I've looked into those before. I really want one but it's just not in my budget for now. I can't wait.
Unfortunately, they don't fit under the couches we have. Otherwise, I would be very tempted.
| 233 |
CyanSnowHawk Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:27:41pm |
re: #222 livefreeor die
Give her my condolences. Was it expected?
Not really. She was an admin that worked closely with HR, so she knew that some were coming, but the whole admin staff got dropped. That was unexpected.
| 234 |
BatGuano Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:27:49pm |
re: #154 HoosierHoops
Hope and change thread! I need the Lizards Help!
background: Every 2 weeks a bunch of us guys get together and play video games..Mostly golf..Hot Shot 4.
So we rotate who get to play the music.. We have gone through every style of music..
Last week Paulie played a DVD of all the one hit wonders.. That was painful..Do you know how painful it is to putt on a course in Japan listening to my green tambourine?
I need a theme for next Thursday that is really cool and doesn't compel me to want to hang myself in my friends living room..:)
Any ideas? Please
Easy. Car Songs. I have a CD produced by Car and driver of about a dozen car songs. Rocket 88, Hot Rod lincoln, Little GTO, Thunder Road,etc. Perfect for all occasions.
| 235 |
Catttt Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:27:56pm |
re: #227 Killgore Trout
That's a good price but when my mortgage clears on the 1st I'll have about $50 left in my account. I'm really cutting it close these days.
I know, hon. I have a cushion now, and I am blessed with a good job, but I have to watch myself. I pay cash for everything, and after I got my new glasses (more than I thought they would be), I ate Ramen for a week.
| 236 |
rightside Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:28:06pm |
re: #213 Fenway_Nation
Thanks for that. I love hockey, and growing up a few miles from Canada, I've had respect for them since I started watching Hockey Night in Canada. At every Sabres game, they play both the American and Canadian national anthems. Many Canadians cross the Peace Bridge to come to HSBC arena and watch hockey, whether they play the Leafs or anyone else.
As a retired sailor, I salute the brave men and women of our fine neighbor to the north, who put themselves in harms way, to defend their nation, and ours.
Even if they are our hat! LOL
| 237 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:28:26pm |
re: #235 Catttt
I know, hon. I have a cushion now, and I am blessed with a good job, but I have to watch myself. I pay cash for everything, and after I got my new glasses (more than I thought they would be), I ate Ramen for a week.
I hope Ramen wasn't your cat?
| 239 |
Catttt Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:30:08pm |
| 240 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:30:10pm |
re: #236 rightside
The Canadian Navy was the third biggest in the world, at the end of WW2.
| 241 |
avanti Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:30:20pm |
re: #200 Nevergiveup
In my opinion they all are. This guys were doing more classified work for the USA than Valerie Plame and her Lying Husband could ever dream of. I'd like to see some righteous indignation form the Left, or otherwise just admit their only aim was to bring down the Bush Presidency. Why don't you stop defending the left and start defending America.
Well, it turned out the CIA memo's were not kind to the interrogators either. The CIA admitted the contractors mislead the agency about their experience and thus could not rely on the effectiveness or safety of there procedures.
Even if you are pro torture, I think it would be good to know the guys designing your techniques would know what they are doing. I doubt they would have been outed without the bragging over the years too. I'd like to read the 2007 Vanity Fair article, it's possible they were outed without the memo's.
A good point could be made that BHO could have fought the release to the Supreme Court, but his legal advisers said he's lose there too, but I'll give you that one.
| 244 |
A Man for all Seasons Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:30:44pm |
re: #216 CyanSnowHawk
Mrs. Hawk was laid off today.
Dammit
Dammit
Dammit
I am deeply sorry...When one door closes..another will open..
When Clinton layed off 15000 nuclear workers I thought it was the end of the world..I had been a Gov't worker all my post college days...I was despondent..
Then I got a call from the Japanese to work for them..
One door closes..another will open
I'll pray for your family tonight
| 245 |
NYCHardhat Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:30:44pm |
| 246 |
rightside Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:30:59pm |
re: #240 WhiteRasta
Heh. I've partied with them. Gotta love moosemilk.
| 247 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:31:12pm |
| 248 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:31:56pm |
| 249 |
Catttt Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:31:57pm |
re: #231 OldLineTexan
Unfortunately, they don't fit under the couches we have. Otherwise, I would be very tempted.
My sofa hugs the floor, but the Roomba goes under my TV thingy. Scared me the first time it went under there - it came out with a catnip mouse, then yelled at me to clean it. :D
| 250 |
CyanSnowHawk Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:32:14pm |
re: #230 goddessoftheclassroom
{CyanSnowHawk}
I'm so sorry. I hope something even better turns up soon.
She's been calling around all day and the temp services she's worked for before say they could get something soon. They really like her. Also has an emergency teaching credential and has worked with that before. I think she will be working again shortly, but she was well paid where she was and we can't take much of a hit with that right now.
| 251 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:32:51pm |
re: #236 rightside
My respect for Canada's Military went up exponentially once the emphasis on peacekeeping was dropped and they proved themselves in combat.
| 252 |
A Man for all Seasons Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:33:17pm |
re: #234 BatGuano
Easy. Car Songs. I have a CD produced by Car and driver of about a dozen car songs. Rocket 88, Hot Rod lincoln, Little GTO, Thunder Road,etc. Perfect for all occasions.
We did Rocket 88 a couple months ago..Was a Hit! We all got burnt CD's.. They are awesome! They do the best cover of Oh Well by Fleetwood Mac I have ever heard
| 253 |
carti3r Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:34:06pm |
I thought pigs would fly before Obama would become president, but within 100 days swine flu.....
| 254 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:34:18pm |
re: #241 avanti
Well, it turned out the CIA memo's were not kind to the interrogators either. The CIA admitted the contractors mislead the agency about their experience and thus could not rely on the effectiveness or safety of there procedures.
Even if you are pro torture, I think it would be good to know the guys designing your techniques would know what they are doing. I doubt they would have been outed without the bragging over the years too. I'd like to read the 2007 Vanity Fair article, it's possible they were outed without the memo's.
A good point could be made that BHO could have fought the release to the Supreme Court, but his legal advisers said he's lose there too, but I'll give you that one.
Your link never mentioned these guys mislead anyone. As for advising on techniques that had not been used before on suspects, experience is a relative concept. To be honest I am watching the Yankee game and don't have the time or inclination to do an Internet search to verify what you are saying. I'll read any links you provide, but so far I have seen nothing to smear these 2 former Military officers.
| 255 |
NYCHardhat Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:34:24pm |
re: #253 carti3r
I thought pigs would fly before Obama would become president, but within 100 days swine flu.....
EXCELLENT.
| 256 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:35:01pm |
re: #246 rightside
Heh. I've partied with them. Gotta love moosemilk.
Moosemilk was a junior ranks staple for our part of the New Years levies we had every year. Seemed to find a few sargeants and officers in our mess for some reason....
| 257 |
BatGuano Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:35:58pm |
re: #252 HoosierHoops
I hope it was Howlin' Wolf's version: That's the best. Glad they enjoyed it!
| 258 |
CyanSnowHawk Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:35:58pm |
re: #244 HoosierHoops
I am deeply sorry...When one door closes..another will open..
When Clinton layed off 15000 nuclear workers I thought it was the end of the world..I had been a Gov't worker all my post college days...I was despondent..
Then I got a call from the Japanese to work for them..
One door closes..another will open
I'll pray for your family tonight
Thanks HH.
Thank all you lizards for the well wishes. It makes it a little easier.
I'm off to home now.
| 259 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:36:05pm |
re: #241 avanti
A good point could be made that BHO could have fought the release to the Supreme Court, but his legal advisers said he's lose there too, but I'll give you that one.
Yeah. I'll bet Roberts and Alito and Scalia and Thomas were just pissing their pants in anticipation of slapping down this little upstart daring to defend the actions of our intelligence officers.
Can I buy a sarc tag big enough to fit this screen?
| 261 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:37:24pm |
I think I'm supposed to be filled with self-righteous indignation after reading this, but this I almost admire Princess Pat's Light Infantry even more.
Later in 2002, Perry was accused of discreditable conduct by the Canadian Armed Forces. Forces personnel investigated allegations that he had desecrated a combatant's corpse by removing a finger, putting a cigarette in its mouth, and placing a sign reading "Fuck Terrorism" on its chest. Military police also suspected that Perry had defecated on another corpse
| 262 |
The Shadow Do Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:37:58pm |
Hoosier, golf game you say?
Just play that piano music from the Masters....in an endless loop
Heh
| 263 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:38:34pm |
Hiatt and the Goners.... maximum boogie
| 264 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:38:49pm |
re: #261 Fenway_Nation
The PPCLI are a bunch of bad-ass dudes.....No PC allowed there.
| 265 |
rightside Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:39:04pm |
re: #256 BlueCanuck
It was quite good. Got invited over on Sunday morning, was hammered by lunchtime.
| 266 |
jamgarr Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:39:21pm |
re: #201 HoosierHoops
I can't believe I'm going to post this..
I love Paula Cole...
OK I said it!
Hey, I like Cindy Lauper!
| 267 |
funky chicken Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:39:44pm |
re: #11 Charles
Bye now! Take care.
that guy/gal got banned from Larry Johnson's place around election time. sorry I didn't email you that info, but reading Johnson's site had become a guilty pleasure for a while.
| 268 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:41:01pm |
In Chrysler Deal, Obama Criticizes Reluctant Hedge Funds
As Chrysler filed for bankruptcy, President Obama had harsh words for the hedge funds who refused to accept the government's offer of about 29 cents on the dollar for about $6.9 billion in debt Chrysler owed.
By Major Garrett
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
I bet Obama was a petulant little brat when he didn't get his way when he was a youngster?
| 269 |
Catttt Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:41:05pm |
Lol. My cats both got out of bed and are sitting by my chair giving me the eye. In particular, my domestic shorthair blames me bitterly for the Roomba. She has that look in her eye.
| 270 |
A Man for all Seasons Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:42:02pm |
re: #262 The Shadow Do
Hoosier, golf game you say?
Just play that piano music from the Masters....in an endless loop
Heh
Now that! would get me beat up..in fact..I'd let them! LOL
| 271 |
funky chicken Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:42:11pm |
re: #228 Nevergiveup
CALEXICO, Calif. (AP) - The hottest thing on the griddle at the Las Palmas restaurant these days isn't the food—it's the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe that a cook says she saw on the griddle.
Restaurant manager Brenda Martinez says more than 100 people have flocked to the small town of Calexico on the California-Mexico border to gaze at the likeness of the Virgin Mary since it was discovered as the griddle was being cleaned.[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
Just great. I wonder how many of them wander on over to CA after viewing this "miracle?"
What's that drug they eat out there in the desert?
| 272 |
Tarkus289 Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:42:25pm |
re: #268 Nevergiveup
He always got his way, as a child and as an adult, to this day he has probably never been denied anything he desired.
| 273 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:43:03pm |
RICHMOND, Va. -- Chrysler remains committed to the Sprint Cup series despite Thursday's announcement it will file for bankruptcy protection and form a partnership with Italian automaker Fiat SpA.
[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]
Priorities?
| 275 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:43:32pm |
re: #261 Fenway_Nation
I think I'm supposed to be filled with self-righteous indignation after reading this, but this I almost admire Princess Pat's Light Infantry even more.
The PPCLI are Canada's problem unit. If you remember that whole hoopla over the Somalia incident and other Airborne unit misconducts, the common factor was that they were all Picklies. Of course you have to look at what our military had gone through up to that point. No excuse for the behavior, but a lot of wrong was done to our units over the misdeeds of a few members.
| 276 |
avanti Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:44:08pm |
re: #254 Nevergiveup
Your link never mentioned these guys mislead anyone. As for advising on techniques that had not been used before on suspects, experience is a relative concept. To be honest I am watching the Yankee game and don't have the time or inclination to do an Internet search to verify what you are saying. I'll read any links you provide, but so far I have seen nothing to smear these 2 former Military officers.
Sorry, that was from the ABC news report that showed that line in the memo. BTW, while looking, I found the names were blacked out in the memo's, so the MSM must have tracked them down with some foot work.
| 277 |
funky chicken Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:44:26pm |
I didn't know Melanie Phillips is an IDer. I'm quite disappointed.
Intelligent Design is warmed-over creationism
Category: Creationism
Posted on: April 30, 2009 12:03 PM, by PZ Myerselanie Phillips is irate. Why? Because Ken Miller says Intelligent Design is nothing but creationism relabeled. Miller is right, Phillips is once again raving in ignorance.
[Link: scienceblogs.com...]
| 278 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:44:51pm |
re: #268 Nevergiveup
In Chrysler Deal, Obama Criticizes Reluctant Hedge Funds
As Chrysler filed for bankruptcy, President Obama had harsh words for the hedge funds who refused to accept the government's offer of about 29 cents on the dollar for about $6.9 billion in debt Chrysler owed.By Major Garrett
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
I bet Obama was a petulant little brat when he didn't get his way when he was a youngster?
He's a petulant little brat now. Remember "I Won". The only thing he left out was nyah....nyahnyahnyahnyah.
Fucking child.
| 280 |
jaunte Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:44:54pm |
re: #268 Nevergiveup
In Chrysler Deal, Obama Criticizes Reluctant Hedge Funds
As Chrysler filed for bankruptcy, President Obama had harsh words for the hedge funds who refused to accept the government's offer of about 29 cents on the dollar for about $6.9 billion in debt Chrysler owed.By Major Garrett
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
I bet Obama was a petulant little brat when he didn't get his way when he was a youngster?
If those corporations had agreed to take less than they were legally entitled to, they would have been sued by their shareholders. What was he thinking, we don't have laws anymore?
| 281 |
BatGuano Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:45:01pm |
As part of my job, today I escorted laid-off employees out of the building. Other than medical emergencies, it is the most gut-wrenching thing I have to face. My heart goes out to all who have to go see the HR person and I wish them all the best.
| 282 |
UncleRancher Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:45:32pm |
re: #268 Nevergiveup
Last week I got an offer to settle a debt for 25 cents on the dollar. I told him that was an insult, and not acceptable.
| 284 |
LGoPs Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:46:52pm |
re: #276 avanti
Sorry, that was from the ABC news report that showed that line in the memo. BTW, while looking, I found the names were blacked out in the memo's, so the MSM must have tracked them down with some foot work.
Good job MFM. Too bad you couldn't show the same diligence during the primaries in tracking down fucking anything about Barry.
/
| 285 |
The Shadow Do Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:47:25pm |
re: #268 Nevergiveup
I bet Obama was a petulant little brat when he didn't get his way when he was a youngster?
A time out or two, or ten or so, would have done a world of good back then.
Or even now for that matter.
| 286 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:48:52pm |
re: #285 The Shadow Do
A time out or two, or ten or so, would have done a world of good back then.
Or even now for that matter.
Time out my ass...ah never mind
| 287 |
Catttt Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:49:03pm |
re: #282 UncleRancher
Last week I got an offer to settle a debt for 25 cents on the dollar. I told him that was an insult, and not acceptable.
I thought 70 cents on the dollar was the going rate, but what do I know.
When I changed banks years ago, I closed my account on payday. They redeemed my account and included the autopay, then they also put it in my account. I didn't realize it and redeemed it. When I realized, while going over statements, what had happened, I went into the bank and paid them back. They were surprised - apparently, they'd written it off.
| 288 |
wrenchwench Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:49:24pm |
re: #283 albusteve
a classic Hiatt ballad....
You sure know how to get a ding out of me. But I'm leaving now....
| 289 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:49:59pm |
re: #268 Nevergiveup
In Chrysler Deal, Obama Criticizes Reluctant Hedge Funds
As Chrysler filed for bankruptcy, President Obama had harsh words for the hedge funds who refused to accept the government's offer of about 29 cents on the dollar for about $6.9 billion in debt Chrysler owed.By Major Garrett
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
I bet Obama was a petulant little brat when he didn't get his way when he was a youngster?
It's complicated but hedge funds got us into this economic mess.
"A group of investment firms and hedge funds decided to hold out for the prospect of an unjustified taxpayer-funded bailout," Obama said, flanked by his economic, energy and environmental teams. "They were hoping that everybody else would make sacrifices, and they would have to make none. Some demanded twice the return that other lenders were getting. I don't stand with them."
It looks like they were holding Chrysler's debts hostage hoping for a giant government payout. I know the whole "John Galt" crap is popular these days but these financial companies are fucking us and they'll milk us dry and crash the entire world economy to make a few bucks. I'll side with the White House on this one.
| 290 |
albusteve Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:50:02pm |
y'all could use some chillin...life ain't all about anger and aggression
| 291 |
UncleRancher Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:52:24pm |
re: #287 Catttt
I thought 70 cents on the dollar was the going rate, but what do I know.
When I changed banks years ago, I closed my account on payday. They redeemed my account and included the autopay, then they also put it in my account. I didn't realize it and redeemed it. When I realized, while going over statements, what had happened, I went into the bank and paid them back. They were surprised - apparently, they'd written it off.
The difference here, I was owed the money. :-{
| 292 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:53:30pm |
Hoosier? Here's my favorite song from my time in Austin.
(Ironic, considering it's about a bar, and I've never actually been in a bar.)
| 293 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:53:30pm |
re: #289 Killgore Trout
Didn't the hedge funds make a killing, anyway?
| 294 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:53:38pm |
re: #276 avanti
the MSM must have tracked them down with some foot work.
They must be well-rested after all the sleep during the Obama campaign.
| 295 |
goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:54:06pm |
Good night, dear Lizards. If you're out tonight, watch out for the witches--it's Walpurgisnacht!
| 296 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:54:39pm |
re: #293 WhiteRasta
Yup, they made a lot of money crashing our economy.
| 298 |
Mike McDaniel Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:56:20pm |
And don't forget that the Taliban is getting close to taking over Pakistan...and their nuclear arsenal.
By this time next month, swine flu may be the least of our worries.
| 300 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:57:36pm |
re: #298 Mike McDaniel
Thanks for that cheerful piece of news.....
| 301 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:58:11pm |
re: #295 goddessoftheclassroom
Which one? Pelosi or WAB?
| 302 |
MandyManners Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:58:19pm |
Olbermann and his guest are utter rotten bastards.
| 303 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:58:40pm |
re: #280 jaunte
If those corporations had agreed to take less than they were legally entitled to, they would have been sued by their shareholders. What was he thinking, we don't have laws anymore?
The value is what they market will pay. Nobody else was bidding on Chrysler's debt. Now it's next to worthless as the company heads to bankruptcy. They might not get anything depending on the judge. The government is assisting the bankruptcy so I wouldn't be surprised if Obama finds a way to shut these pricks out completely. Good for him. They were trying to milk the taxpayers. Fuck 'em.
| 304 |
yochanan Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:00:02pm |
re: #277 funky chicken
frankly i love melinie i don't believe it i.d. as a litmus test. i do so much love her support for Israel in a very difficult place like the U.K. are we going to throw everybody under the bus? Israel needs all the support they can get and she is great for her support of Israel.
| 305 |
Opinionated Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:00:12pm |
The Saudis are pissed and they demand the US retract the vile terrible things it said about their king.
What defamatory insulting thing was said about the one to whom Presidents should bow?
Saudi Arabia: U.S. lied, Saudi king did not speak with Peres
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
You hear that Infidels, don't ever again say we spoke with a JOOOOOOOOOOOO.
| 306 |
A Man for all Seasons Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:00:16pm |
re: #281 BatGuano
As part of my job, today I escorted laid-off employees out of the building. Other than medical emergencies, it is the most gut-wrenching thing I have to face. My heart goes out to all who have to go see the HR person and I wish them all the best.
My heart goes out to them also..You know what really sucks..The Gov't closed down Mare Island and we were all on 2 years notice...Every Friday night for 2 years I went to going away parties for colleagues that had worked together for years..Every Friday night we went to see 20-50 friends go away forever.
It was the most painful thing I've ever gone though in my life...At one time in the mid 90's me and one other guy sat in bld 690..one of the largest Nuclear Facilities on the West Coast..By ourselves..waiting for months for the letter from DC. to Riff us..
Here is a little known fact about Gov't Riff's.. They offer you if you have certain time on the job..one position..one job in the Gov't Take it or leave it..
You know what they offered me? A 20 years fully qualified Nuclear Engineer?
A GS5 position for the CIA.. a 10 dollar/Hr position to shuffle papers..
The United States Gov't doesn't think highly of my talents.. {Bad word here} Them.
| 307 |
livefreeor die Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:00:43pm |
re: #268 Nevergiveup
In Chrysler Deal, Obama Criticizes Reluctant Hedge Funds
As Chrysler filed for bankruptcy, President Obama had harsh words for the hedge funds who refused to accept the government's offer of about 29 cents on the dollar for about $6.9 billion in debt Chrysler owed.By Major Garrett
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
I bet Obama was a petulant little brat when he didn't get his way when he was a youngster?
I bet he's going to be a petulant adult once he realizes that not everyone is going to swoon in the face of his demands.
| 309 |
dmandman Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:00:48pm |
re: #298 Mike McDaniel
I think that other players may put a stop to that. I can't believe India and China (both) would allow that type of loose cannon on deck. They have some real problems with that flavor of Islam and aren't afraid to use very harsh measures to suppress it.
| 310 |
gmsc Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:00:53pm |
Does State think Texas is a foreign country?
Last weekend, the blog Stormin’s Morning Java noticed an odd claim on the State Department website. In a list that intended to brag about how much Hillary Clinton had traveled as the new Secretary of State to foreign countries, Foggy Bottom included a trip to Texas
The country's in the very best of hands!
| 311 |
WhiteRasta Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:01:24pm |
re: #303 Killgore Trout
Bah! It's only taxpayers money. So who cares? There is lots more where that came from.
| 312 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:02:21pm |
re: #310 gmsc
Does State think Texas is a foreign country?
The country's in the very best of hands!
Well, it was from 1836-1845.
| 313 |
jaunte Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:03:30pm |
re: #303 Killgore Trout
Do you think distressed debt funds should be outlawed?
| 314 |
gmsc Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:03:36pm |
re: #312 OldLineTexan
Well, it was from 1836-1845.
Do you mean that Texas was a foreign country from 1836-1845, or that the last time the country really was in the very best hands was from 1836-1845?
;)
| 315 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:06:21pm |
re: #313 jaunte
Do you think distressed debt funds should be outlawed?
No but they should have a lot tighter regulation. These funds were playing some very dangerous games with default credit swaps and even the hedge funds weren't aware of the risks they were taking.
| 316 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:06:23pm |
re: #314 gmsc
Do you mean that Texas was a foreign country from 1836-1845, or that the last time the country really was in the very best hands was from 1836-1845?
;)
Foreign country. Honestly, the US was having lots of trouble in that timeframe, and Texas was part of the problem :(
| 317 |
BatGuano Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:07:26pm |
re: #306 HoosierHoops
I agree with your {Bad word here} assessment.
| 318 |
Bob Dillon Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:07:36pm |
re: #241 avanti
" I'd like to read the 2007 Vanity Fair article"
Here you go:
[Link: www.vanityfair.com...]
Rorschach and Awe
America's coercive interrogation methods were reverse-engineered by two C.I.A. psychologists who had spent their careers training U.S. soldiers to endure Communist-style torture techniques. The spread of these tactics was fueled by a myth about a critical "black site" operation.
by KATHERINE EBAN VF.COM EXCLUSIVE July 17, 2007
| 319 |
Catttt Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:09:56pm |
re: #291 UncleRancher
The difference here, I was owed the money. :-{
I understand. I would have paid you back! Hope you can negotiate a fair deal.
| 320 |
gmsc Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:10:19pm |
The Trillion Dollar Fix
by Megan McArdle
Excerpt:
Up until now, Obama has largely done the fun part of governing: promising people free stuff. To be sure, even some of that is fairly unpopular, but the auto bailouts have undoubtedly pleased the UAW more than they have angered the rest of the population, and most of the bank spending has occurred under programs originated in the Bush administration. Now, however, the bill for Obama's central proposals is about to come due. Unless Obama thinks he can borrow something like a trillion dollars a year indefinitely, he is going to have to ask Americans to make sacrifices to pay for the goodies.
“‘Sacrifice’ does not mean the rejection of the worthless, but of the precious. ‘Sacrifice’ does not mean the rejection of the evil for the sake of the good, but of the good for the sake of the evil. ‘Sacrifice’ is the surrender of that which you value in favor of that which you don’t.
“If you exchange a penny for a dollar, it is not a sacrifice; if you exchange a dollar for a penny, it is. If you achieve the career you wanted, after years of struggle, it is not a sacrifice; if you then renounce it for the sake of a rival, it is. If you own a bottle of milk and gave it to your starving child, it is not a sacrifice; if you give it to your neighbor’s child and let your own die, it is.
“If you give money to help a friend, it is not a sacrifice; if you give it to a worthless stranger, it is. If you give your friend a sum you can afford, it is not a sacrifice; if you give him money at the cost of your own discomfort, it is only a partial virtue, according to this sort of moral standard; if you give him money at the cost of disaster to yourself that is the virtue of sacrifice in full.
“If you renounce all personal desire and dedicate your life to those you love, you do not achieve full virtue: you still retain a value of your own, which is your love. If you devote your life to random strangers, it is an act of greater virtue. If you devote your life to serving men you hate-that is the greatest of the virtues you can practice.
“A sacrifice is the surrender of a value. Full sacrifice is full surrender of all values. If you wish to achieve full virtue, you must seek no gratitude in return for your sacrifice, no praise, no love, no admiration, no self-esteem, not even the pride of being virtuous; the faintest trace of any gain dilutes your virtue. If you pursue a course of action that does not taint your life by any joy, that brings you no value in matter, no value in spirit, no gain, no profit, no reward-if you achieve this state of total zero, you have achieved the ideal of moral perfection.
| 321 |
Beller0ph1 Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:11:20pm |
So I was thinking today...why is BO announcing Chrysler's bankruptcy? Isn't that usually the CEO's or the PR department's job? When did BO have the experience needed to run a major car manufacturer? Oh wait...that's right, he doesn't. He doesn't have much experience in anything. Except rabble rousing.
| 322 |
gmsc Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:12:06pm |
re: #321 Beller0ph1
So I was thinking today...why is BO announcing Chrysler's bankruptcy? Isn't that usually the CEO's or the PR department's job? When did BO have the experience needed to run a major car manufacturer? Oh wait...that's right, he doesn't. He doesn't have much experience in anything. Except rabble rousing.
Don't you understand? A company is like a community, and he's an experienced community organizer!
| 323 |
avanti Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:14:03pm |
re: #318 Bobibutu
" I'd like to read the 2007 Vanity Fair article"
Here you go:
[Link: www.vanityfair.com...]
Rorschach and Awe
America's coercive interrogation methods were reverse-engineered by two C.I.A. psychologists who had spent their careers training U.S. soldiers to endure Communist-style torture techniques. The spread of these tactics was fueled by a myth about a critical "black site" operation.
by KATHERINE EBAN VF.COM EXCLUSIVE July 17, 2007
Thanks so much, that shows the power of a great blog. The release of the memo's and the ABC news thing had nothing to do with "outing CIA agents" The contractors were outed by Vanity Fair in 2007, not ABC news today.
"Two psychologists in particular played a central role: James Elmer Mitchell, who was attached to the C.I.A. team that eventually arrived in Thailand, and his colleague Bruce Jessen."
| 324 |
Van Helsing Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:16:52pm |
re: #184 LGoPs
I'll start with the ACLU and the motherfucking America hating Left that supports them. The same fucking left that wakes up every morning and thinks, "Man this country is the source of all evil in the world".
I wake up every morning grateful to be living in the most wonderful country this world has ever seen. The Left needs to go find someplace else to fuck up.
I'll second that.
If I recall correctly the release of the Abu Ghraib crap back in 2004 incited violence (well, more violence) against our troops. Who's going to hold these asshats in the ACLU responsible if this rehashing of settled issues does the same thing.
Makes me want to go Bill Ayers on them (hey, if he can get away with it...)
| 325 |
KFIBryan Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:17:00pm |
Some random Winston Churchill thoughts:
Last night's Churchill Analogy rubbed me the wrong way so badly that I spent an hour of my show deconstructing Obama's retroactive morality in regards to a complete non-sequitor of an analogy.
To wit:
-Luftwaffe aircrew were no more... "detainees" ...than their JU-88s were "man-made disaster delivery devices." They were POWs. Their treatment directly affected the treatment of RAF aircrew held in Stalags across Germany.
-Churchill didn't HAVE any moral dilemma in regards to torturing these men, because they had NO actionable, timely intelligence. Historically, aviators (from the RAF to the Luftwaffe to John McCain) do NOT take off knowing anything beyond TODAY's target. This is fundamental, it's called Operational Security. You can't give up what you don't know. Remember the ubiquitous "Gentlemen...here is today's target" scene in every bomber movie? Conversely, allied aircrew (like Chuck Yeager) who were shot down and assisted by the resistance were transferred to the Pacific or back to the US because they had TOO much knowledge of the resistance network.
-Finally, and MAINLY, Churchill had access to the "ULTRA" intelligence. He knew more, before most of these crews did. Eisenhower later called it "the decisive" element of winning. In fact, Churchill had a worse moral dilemma. He knew targets before they were hit! Did he alert them and save lives? Thereby saving hundreds, but compromising the ULTRA intercepts? Nope, he saw the big picture.
If you think Churchill would've hesitated to turn the screws on a captured Staff Puke, then you know NOTHING about Winston. If this were just a drunken debate in an Irish Pub, I'd have forgotten about it. But Obama is using this misapplied Andrew Sullivan op-ed to make all of our lives more risky.
| 326 |
avanti Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:17:20pm |
re: #321 Beller0ph1
So I was thinking today...why is BO announcing Chrysler's bankruptcy? Isn't that usually the CEO's or the PR department's job? When did BO have the experience needed to run a major car manufacturer? Oh wait...that's right, he doesn't. He doesn't have much experience in anything. Except rabble rousing.
He's was "rabble rousing", using the bully pulpit to try and keep Chrysler from failing. Simply a popular POTUS spinning what could be bad news.
| 327 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:19:33pm |
This sent a message to GM bondholders who seem interested in making a deal......
Bondholders present plan to win GM control
General Motors Corp. bondholders on Thursday presented a counteroffer to the automaker's debt swap that would relieve creditors of their $27 billion of debt in return for a majority stake in the company.
The move also aims to ease concerns over the U.S. government nationalizing the Detroit giant and comes as the Obama administration announced that rival Chrysler, which saw its negotiations with bondholders collapse, will file for bankruptcy. See full story.
bondholders said their plan would see them get 58% of the new company in return for debt forgiveness while saving U.S. taxpayers $10 billion in cash. The union health-care fund, based on the $20 billion in benefits owed, would own 41%.
| 328 |
rawmuse Thu, Apr 30, 2009 6:54:46pm |
W.C. Handy the most recorded American Pop song ever.
Anyone venture a guess?
| 330 |
rawmuse Thu, Apr 30, 2009 7:08:47pm |
re: #329 buzzsawmonkey
St. Louis Blues.
Which, by the way, was first introduced by a drag queen.
Guys in drag have a long tradition in theater, no bout adoubt it.
| 332 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Apr 30, 2009 7:18:41pm |
I have an inscribed copy of Handy's autobiography (inscribed to my stepfather) that I still haven't read. I should read it one of these days.
This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.
Comments are closed.
Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds
- Featured PagesClick to refresh
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
Cheechako
5 days ago
Views: 673 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ... Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 1,304 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 3
They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 395 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1- Pictures From Today’s Exhibition of Paintings Done by Jane LilienthalPROPS TO MICHELE AND SAGEHEN FOR CATCHING THE SPELLING ERROR IN THE TITLE THAT MY DIABETIC EYES COULDN'T CATCH I wanted to share pictures of the art show I visited today. The portraits were created by the mother of my ...Joe Bacon ✅
3 weeks ago
Views: 480 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 11 
March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
William Lewis
4 weeks ago
Views: 590 • Comments: 2 • Rating: 9
Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
Rightwingconspirator
4 weeks ago
Views: 582 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5
Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
4 weeks ago
Views: 573 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5- A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...KGxvi
4 weeks ago
Views: 468 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 4
- Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
2 days ago
Views: 105 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 270 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
