Overnight Open Thread

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Open • Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 11:23 pm PDT • Views: 169

How are we to survive? Solemnity is not the answer, any more than witless and irresponsible frivolity is. I think our best chance lies in humor, which in this case means a wry acceptance of our predicament. We don’t have to like it but we can at least recognize its ridiculous aspects, one of which is ourselves.

Ogden Nash

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1 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:26:08pm

OK, SF's got the H1N1.

2 Clemente  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:27:25pm

Mmmm... Fresh, non-contagious threadification!

3 thelongblogger  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:27:32pm

Man was born to pain and woe
In pain and woe through life they go
They have no cause at all for thanksgiving
And yet the idiots keep on living!

Ogden Nash

4 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:28:14pm

re: #1 rawmuse

That's not humorous. :)

5 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:28:36pm

Fighting horrors with humor?

That makes me think of Tim Burton's Vincent:

6 Gus  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:29:06pm

Fastball - The Way

[-)

7 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:29:28pm

Aaah. The late night thread!
Hola Honcos!

8 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:29:56pm

re: #5 gmsc

Damn you, I a'scurred Of Tim burton.

9 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:29:57pm

Ogden Nash tends to ramble...

10 Catttt  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:30:17pm

re: #1 rawmuse

OK, SF's got the H1N1.

It's as if the press is running around chasing everyone with a head cold. According to the doctor quoted in that piece, ""We're seeing epidemic spread of a non-serious illness."

Meanwhile, Egypt is busy shooting all the swine in the country.

I don't mean to sound snooty, but people are sooo schtupid.

11 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:30:25pm

Any lizard that is has a bit of a background in investing or economics ought to watch the video interview on this page (it is from "yahoo finance" and I haven't hacked the URL to do a direct link)

It basically goes over the credit market impacts of the Chrysler BK filing and associated uncertainty. Specifically, the whole issue of "counterparty risk" (which, as applied to mortgages, was the problem that led to the bailout of AIG) is discussed related to car makers going BK.

The net of it is that the implications of the BK action haven't been thought out and the policy choices of the Obama administration have us "swimming backwards" rather than dealing with the problem.

Nite all. Watch the markets tomorrow - critical day

[ repost from end of prior thread - was typing when this one opened ]

12 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:30:40pm

We are all doomed .. DOOMED I tell you ! If its not the global warming or the guns being shipped in from Mexico, its the Iranians making nukes or the pigs making viruses !

Doomed !

13 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:31:04pm

re: #9 Fenway_Nation

Ogden Nash tends to ramble...

Sidedinged! (Couldn't decide whether to upding or downding you for that.)

14 Liberal Classic  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:31:44pm

A mighty creature is the germ,
Though smaller than the pachyderm.
His customary dwelling place
Is deep within the human race.
His childish pride he often pleases
By giving people strange diseases.
Do you, my poppet, feel infirm?
You probably contain a germ.

-ON

15 ggt  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:32:06pm

REPOST FROM DOWNSTAIRS.

strangely appropriate because I've learned that Tolstoy preached non-survival of a kind.:

You-all may remember that I am listening to War and Peace, which is flawlessly narrated by Neville Jason--a master. The writing is beautiful.

Being me, I have to look up the history of the era and critques of the book itself. I have learned that Leo Tolstoy, himself, WAS A WHACKO.

Learning that one of his books inspired both Ghandi and MLK Jr., I ordered it. I read one chapter and nearly vomited. I will venture to finish it as time permits.

Not only is GK Chesteron's assessment correct, I now have a whole new tangent of history to research.

Luckily the current Dalai Lama stated that non-violent resistance is useless against terrorists--as their hearts aren't open to the truth. I'm glad to know that there are leaders, religious and otherwise, who are sane.

16 Catttt  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:32:08pm

re: #3 thelongblogger

Man was born to pain and woe
In pain and woe through life they go
They have no cause at all for thanksgiving
And yet the idiots keep on living!

Ogden Nash


...

Oh yeah - life goes on
Long after the thrill of living is gone

~John Mellencamp

17 ggt  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:33:31pm

re: #12 Buster Bunny

We are all doomed .. DOOMED I tell you ! If its not the global warming or the guns being shipped in from Mexico, its the Iranians making nukes or the pigs making viruses !

Doomed !

Should we all just open our windows and shout out:

"I'm NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MO!" ?

18 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:34:04pm

re: #8 BatGuano

Damn you, I a'scurred Of Tim burton.

I'm guessing that being narrated by Vincent Price didn't help much?

Is this better?
;)

19 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:34:26pm

Little known fact: A town in Utah was named after Ogden Nash.

20 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:34:48pm

re: #1 rawmuse

The way the comment thread is starting out, it could be real interesting by morning.

I have a great-niece who is still in Mexico in her exchange student program. She normally lives in Raleigh/Durham with her mom's sister during her regular college days. My niece says her co-workers are telling her not to come in to work once the student comes back here...they are that scared. I think it's ridiculous to be that frightened.

21 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:34:59pm

re: #15 ggt

You mean all those "Free Tibet" bumper stickers haven't done anything?

22 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:35:21pm
Oh yeah - life goes on
Long after the thrill of living is gone

~John Mellencamp

Resistance is futile. Prepare yourselves for assimilation into the collective.

~The Borg

23 ggt  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:35:26pm

re: #21 rawmuse

You mean all those "Free Tibet" bumper stickers haven't done anything?

don't get me started on Tibet!

24 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:35:48pm

re: #16 Cattt

There was a young man named Dave,..

25 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:36:04pm

re: #10 Cattt

It's as if the press is running around chasing everyone with a head cold. According to the doctor quoted in that piece, ""We're seeing epidemic spread of a non-serious illness."

Meanwhile, Egypt is busy shooting all the swine in the country.

I don't mean to sound snooty, but people are sooo schtupid.

Stupidity is the epidemic.

26 thelongblogger  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:36:05pm

There once was a poet who cried out loud
"Oh, why should the spirit of man be proud?"
A notable piece of rhymed invective
Which proves that the poet had no perspective:
For the spirit of man should swell with pride
At producing the poet who loudly cried
"Oh, why should the spirit of man be proud?"

27 Gus  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:36:46pm

Boston - More Than A Feeling

28 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:37:18pm

re: #24 MandyManners

There was a young man named Dave,..

What happened to the girl from Nantuckett?

I was always rather fond of her :)

29 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:37:58pm

re: #17 ggt

Should we all just open our windows and shout out:

"I'm NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MO!" ?

Right after "I'M MAD AS HELL!"

30 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:38:30pm

re: #18 gmsc

I'm a'scurred of James Mason.

31 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:38:59pm

re: #21 rawmuse

You mean all those "Free Tibet" bumper stickers haven't done anything?

No, but the "Deluxe Tibet $2.00" bumper stickers are getting reactions.
;)

32 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:40:27pm

re: #30 BatGuano

I'm a'scurred of James Mason.

True, he's nervous, but . . .

...is there anything you aren't a'scurred of?

33 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:40:42pm

Did I inform you lizards about New York Susquehanna & Western locomotive #141- a 2-8-2 steam locomotive? There isn't much to tell, since she never turned a revenue wheel and is presently under 6000 feet of water in the Bay of Bengal.

Susquehanna #142 is a slightly different story...

NYS&W ordered a new Mikado-type 2-8-2 steam locomotive from the Tangshan Locomotive and Rolling Stock Works in China. The locomotive was built and placed on a Norwegian cargo ship bound for America. However, the ship sank in the Bay of Bengal, and the locomotive was lost. In late December 1991, the railroad completed the purchase of a similar locomotive from the Valley Railroad in Essex, Connecticut. This unit, known as #142, or "The 142," was also built at Tangshan, in 1988.

Interestingly enough, this makes NYS&W 142 newer than most of the diesel locomotives currently rostered by the Susquehanna.

But perhaps NYS&W might've been better off waiting 19 years, since the very same SY Class 2-8-2 Mikados built en masse by the Tangshan Locomotive and Rolling Stock Works are now retired and up for sale.

34 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:41:15pm

re: #32 gmsc

Fuzzy bunny slippers.

35 Gus  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:41:38pm

Kansas - Carry on my Wayward Son

36 Gavriel  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:42:56pm

My favorite bumber stcker.
186,000 Miles Per Second.
It's not just a good idea, its the law.

37 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:42:58pm

re: #16 Cattt

Jack and Diane:

38 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:43:14pm

Do you have Swine Flu?

/but not all at once

39 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:43:42pm

I'm gonna' go back to bed again. I realized I was hungry so I got a bowl of cereal and sliced bananas. See you folks in the morning!

40 Gavriel  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:43:57pm

Much calmer then the Wilders thread.

41 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:44:04pm

re: #34 BatGuano

Fuzzy bunny slippers.

Here you go – the classic song "Summer of '69", as sung by the Fuzzy Bunny Slippers!

42 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:44:41pm

re: #31 gmsc

No, but the "Deluxe Tibet $2.00" bumper stickers are getting reactions.
;)

What can I get for a twenty?

43 ggt  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:45:17pm

re: #29 Spare O'Lake

Right after "I'M MAD AS HELL!"

agreed!

44 Gus  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:45:29pm

Swingtown - Steve Miller Band

45 Clemente  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:46:14pm

re: #12 Buster Bunny

(Pours Buster a frosty pint, drops a five in the jukebox, and sets up for gentleman's rules eight-ball...)

What's all this, then? We're America! Keep your head, work harder than the next guy, and we'll muddle through this mess - fix it up better than it ever was, and make the world wish they were us!

What I.Truly.BELIEVE!

46 Gavriel  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:46:21pm

I miss late night in the Lizzard Lounge.
I only saw a few implied snarkynesses and I really liked the conversational atmosphere.

47 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:46:25pm

re: #39 MandyManners

I'm gonna' go back to bed again. I realized I was hungry so I got a bowl of cereal and sliced bananas. See you folks in the morning!

It must be 0 dark thirty where you live. You could put your makeup on now and sleep on your back. ;-)

Love ya, Mandy.

48 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:48:53pm

Time for me to hit the hay. Night, all.

50 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:49:40pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Jack and Diane:


[Video]

Some Jack & Diane trivia:

1) What movie inspired Mellencamp to write "Jack and Diane"?

2) In what song does Mellencamp revisit the "Jack and Diane" characters?

3) What element is in the song that was originally intended to be removed?

51 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:49:45pm

Anyone seen the new CAIR swine flu mask?

52 Sloppy  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:50:05pm

Re #33 - Fenway Nation

I find your locomotive lore interesting. I used to know a locomotive salesman (since deceased). I asked him once how much a locomotive cost. He replied, "Per pound, about the same as hamburger."

53 Gus  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:50:07pm

I've been thinking about reverse psychology bumper stickers.

Bachman Turner Overdrive - You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet

54 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:50:36pm

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

What can I get for a twenty?

The supersize Tibet, but if you finish it all in 30 minutes or less, it's free.

55 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:52:07pm

Good night all. My wife says I can't play anymore.re: #50 gmsc

1.) Bonnie and Clyde?

56 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:52:55pm

re: #55 BatGuano

Good night all. My wife says I can't play anymore.

1.) Bonnie and Clyde?

Good night, and nope, it wasn't Bonnie and Clyde. Check back in the morning to see the answers!

57 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:53:23pm
58 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:53:58pm

re: #54 gmsc

Hmmm... I was hoping for a more intimate encounter with a Tibetan bumper sticker for that price. Nothing elaborate, mind you. Maybe just a bumper job?
/

59 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:54:02pm

re: #56 gmsc

Good night all.

60 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:55:02pm

Time to hit the sack, Jack.

61 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:55:36pm

re: #60 Spare O'Lake

Time to hit the sack, Jack.

Until you wake, O'Lake!

62 Gavriel  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:56:08pm

Good Night All

63 gmsc  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:57:34pm

re: #62 Gavriel

Good Night All

Good night, Gavriel.

Geez – I guess I killed them all of with Vincent and/or The Tell Tale Heart!

64 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Apr 30, 2009 11:59:33pm

re: #57 rawmuse

Pick the perp

Wow. I suck at that game. Good example of why you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover.

65 gmsc  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:00:01am

Today in History, May 1st:

Highlights of this day in history: President George W. Bush says 'major combat operations' over in Iraq; The Soviet Union shoots down a U-2 spy plane; Empire State Building dedicated; 'Citizen Kane' premieres; Singer Elvis Presley marries.

66 calcajun  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:00:16am

re: #39 MandyManners

Sleep well.

67 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:01:04am

re: #64 Slumbering Behemoth

I get about 23%. Not reliable at all.

68 Gus  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:01:51am

re: #67 rawmuse

I get about 23%. Not reliable at all.

I'm at 32.69%! Woot!

69 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:02:45am

re: #52 Sloppy

Re #33 - Fenway Nation

I find your locomotive lore interesting.

At least someone does *sniff*.

Might actually be cheaper than hamburger nowadays, since most of the large class One operators in the USA and Canada had the new locomotives they ordered arrive in time for the marked downturn in traffic that's a byproduct of this recession. This means that there are literally hundreds of perfectly serviceable locomotives that the railways are idling until traffic picks back up and they'd be willing to part with some of them, too. As it stands, this is pretty much a buyer's market.

70 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:04:15am

re: #67 rawmuse

I got about 30 questions in before I gave up, and did much worse than that. I think part of my problem there was reflexively clicking on some of the more prettier women.

/too much interwebs pr0n

71 sngnsgt  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:06:07am

re: #35 Gus 802

Thanks for that, brings back memories, used to Carry-On this in high school with a weekend jam band.

72 gmsc  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:06:14am

re: #65 gmsc

Today in History, May 1st:

[Video]

Highlights of this day in history: President George W. Bush says 'major combat operations' over in Iraq; The Soviet Union shoots down a U-2 spy plane; Empire State Building dedicated; 'Citizen Kane' premieres; Singer Elvis Presley marries.

Charles Foster Kane sure got the date right when it came to newspapers running out of money, didn't he?

73 Gus  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:07:48am

re: #71 sngnsgt

Thanks for that, brings back memories, used to Carry-On this in high school with a weekend jam band.

YW, Kansas is a great band. Great song too.

74 sngnsgt  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:07:50am

re: #71 sngnsgt

DOH!

used to play
75 Buster Bunny  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:08:41am

re: #50 gmsc

Lets see .. I can only guess the first two .. not being a big mellencamp fan.

1) The movie was Splendour in the Grass (an oldie but a goodie). It stars the very attractive Natalie Wood and Warren Beatty.

2) Drummed up again .. in one of his later songs Eden is Burning .. off the self titled album.

3) yes .. this one is for you to tell me.

76 ggt  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:09:40am

weet dreams all!

77 Gus  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:11:48am

re: #72 gmsc

Charles Foster Kane sure got the date right when it came to newspapers running out of money, didn't he?

[Video]

Newspapers have gotten so ahead of themselves. Stilted reporting. Overt advertising that takes up too much space. Overpriced classified advertising rates. Then they were (are) giving away free subscriptions. It could be as Citizen Caine says 1 million dollars but today it's in the 100s of millions... of debt.

78 gmsc  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:12:17am

re: #75 Buster Bunny

Lets see .. I can only guess the first two .. not being a big mellencamp fan.

1) The movie was Splendour in the Grass (an oldie but a goodie). It stars the very attractive Natalie Wood and Warren Beatty.

2) Drummed up again .. in one of his later songs Eden is Burning .. off the self titled album.

3) yes .. this one is for you to tell me.

Right on 1 & 2!

As for #3?

The original idea in the song was to use the hand-clapping only to keep the tempo (since the music stops and starts), and then edit out the hand-clapping in the final version. They did so, and realized that the song didn't work without it, so they put it back in!

79 gmsc  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:12:55am

re: #77 Gus 802

Newspapers have gotten so ahead of themselves. Stilted reporting. Overt advertising that takes up too much space. Overpriced classified advertising rates. Then they were (are) giving away free subscriptions. It could be as Citizen Caine says 1 million dollars but today it's in the 100s of millions... of debt.

Keep in mind, Kane was using his own money, not other people's.

80 sngnsgt  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:14:06am

re: #73 Gus 802

YW, Kansas is a great band. Great song too.

The hardest part was teaching the harmonies in the beginning to a bunch of guy's who had no clue what singing in harmony is. My Father beat into us three kids to get it right. This is what Dear 'ol Dad did in the service for 18 of his 22 years in the Force

81 Gus  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:14:39am

re: #79 gmsc

Keep in mind, Kane was using his own money, not other people's.

Exactly. The irony being that even "Citizen Caine" was above the fray compared to what we see in operation today. Imagine a newspaper corporation today using their own money.

82 Gus  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:16:22am

re: #80 sngnsgt

The hardest part was teaching the harmonies in the beginning to a bunch of guy's who had no clue what singing in harmony is. My Father beat into us three kids to get it right. This is what Dear 'ol Dad did in the service for 18 of his 22 years in the Force

Oh that's nice. I've alway loved the AF band. The hymns and the chorus. Great stuff there.

83 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:18:32am

re: #80 sngnsgt

That is quite an accomplishment. The Air Force has some fine musical organizations, the other being the Airmen of Note.

84 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:18:41am

re: #81 Gus 802

Exactly. The irony being that even "Citizen Caine" was above the fray compared to what we see in operation today. Imagine a newspaper corporation today using their own money.

The NYT is about out of their own money, and I couldn't be happier. Unless Kerry or some other traitorous Congress Critter tries to push through a bill to keep the Democrat Propaganda Machine running on the taxpayers' tab, then I'll be pissed.

85 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:18:48am

How long does this "pick a perp" game go on. I am only scoring two and it continues. I guess I really suck at this game.

86 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:20:00am

re: #10 Cattt

It's as if the press is running around chasing everyone with a head cold. According to the doctor quoted in that piece, ""We're seeing epidemic spread of a non-serious illness."

Meanwhile, Egypt is busy shooting all the swine in the country.

I don't mean to sound snooty, but people are sooo schtupid.

what will they do without politicians and mullahs?

87 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:20:02am

re: #85 Pvt Bin Jammin

Stop when you see your brother in law. ;)

88 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:20:34am

re: #81 Gus 802

Exactly. The irony being that even "Citizen Caine" was above the fray compared to what we see in operation today. Imagine a newspaper corporation today using their own money.

Anyone HAVING their own money today.
FTFY!

89 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:21:17am

re: #12 Buster Bunny

We are all doomed .. DOOMED I tell you ! If its not the global warming or the guns being shipped in from Mexico, its the Iranians making nukes or the pigs making viruses !

Doomed !

what's the matter? do you want to live forever?

Follow me!

Infantry NCO's throughout time

90 Gus  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:21:20am

re: #84 FurryOldGuyJeans

The NYT is about out of their own money, and I couldn't be happier. Unless Kerry or some other traitorous Congress Critter tries to push through a bill to keep the Democrat Propaganda Machine running on the taxpayers' tab, then I'll be pissed.

I don't even know what to think anymore. Newspapers have become so partisan and they're mostly DNC and union organizations. That would be fine if there was balance but there is no balance.

91 gmsc  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:22:05am

I've got to work tomorrow, so I'm going to have to say good night early.

Good night, all!

92 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:22:08am

re: #87 rawmuse

LOL

It's really kind of fun but I am over thinking it and not picking my first choice.

93 Clemente  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:22:42am

re: #57 rawmuse

Pick the perp

13/50 = 26%, just barely ahead of the odds... But I know every one of 'em's guilty!

94 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:23:07am

re: #91 gmsc

Think how lucky you are to have work!
:)

95 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:24:22am

re: #25 itellu3times

Stupidity is endemic.

FTFY!

96 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:24:31am

Hasta la manana, Lizards!

97 Gus  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:27:57am

Night folks! Peace ;)

The Fightin' Side of Me

Okie From Muskogee

98 sngnsgt  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:28:13am

re: #83 rawmuse

That is quite an accomplishment. The Air Force has some fine musical organizations, the other being the Airmen of Note.

My 2 brothers and I used to listen to The Note rehearse in the Air force studio on Bolling AFB in DC. Mach 1 is the rock band there too, their job in the Force is to cover rock bands for a living. I play drums and at 18 was ready to join. I have epilepsy, kept me from being able to serve in any branch. Which sucks because I had an "in" and epilepsy ended that dream.

99 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:31:12am

re: #90 Gus 802

I don't even know what to think anymore. Newspapers have become so partisan and they're mostly DNC and union organizations. That would be fine if there was balance but there is no balance.

I don't mind partisan newspapers, the history of the Republic is such that partisan press was there from the start. The only difference is that the current media lies about their bias instead of being proud of it.

Yes, they lie. Even if it is so much part and parcel of the DNA of what it takes to be a journalist today that the bias is not seen because it is so pervasive, it is still a lie. The ideals used to be REPORT the FACTS so the reader could decide, not editorialize to lead people to the conclusion desired.

100 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:31:13am

Good night, lizards, have a great day tomorrow.

101 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:32:37am

re: #85 Pvt Bin Jammin

How long does this "pick a perp" game go on. I am only scoring two and it continues. I guess I really suck at this game.

How many people get arrested throughout the Republic each year? I guess when they show all the perps arrested is when the game ends.

102 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:32:46am

re: #26 thelongblogger

There once was a poet who cried out loud
"Oh, why should the spirit of man be proud?"
A notable piece of rhymed invective
Which proves that the poet had no perspective:
For the spirit of man should swell with pride
At producing the poet who loudly cried
"Oh, why should the spirit of man be proud?"

Pride of Man

103 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:34:27am

re: #10 Cattt

It's as if the press is running around chasing everyone with a head cold. According to the doctor quoted in that piece, ""We're seeing epidemic spread of a non-serious illness."

Meanwhile, Egypt is busy shooting all the swine in the country.

I don't mean to sound snooty, but people are sooo schtupid.

This media hype is perfect for the Islamists to get rid of all the haram pigs they have always wanted.

104 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:35:39am

re: #101 FurryOldGuyJeans

How many people get arrested throughout the Republic each year? I guess when they show all the perps arrested is when the game ends.

tru dat: once we're all hauled in on thought crimes, who will be left to play?

105 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:36:36am

re: #103 FurryOldGuyJeans

This media hype is perfect for the Islamists to get rid of all the haram pigs they have always wanted.

but once they get rid o the harem pigs, what's left besides sheep and goatse?

106 Crux Australis  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:38:31am

I need some movie watching advice. Which movie do I spend $10 watching?

1) Star Trek
2) X Men :Wolverine
or
3) Wait for DVD

107 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:39:27am

re: #106 Crux Australis

It's been #3 for me for the last 10 years.

108 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:42:22am

re: #105 redc1c4

but once they get rid o the harem pigs, what's left besides sheep and goatse?

Do I really need to say it?

JOOOS and JUICE!

/ is it sarcasm or it is memorex?

109 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:42:38am

re: #106 Crux Australis

I always recommend waiting for DVD. For the price of a "single admission", you and as many friends/family as you like can watch it, and as many times as you like until you return it.

I also like the fact that I can smoke, drink, and eat whatever I like while watching the film, without taking out a small loan.

Bonus: I can pee whenever I like without missing a moment of the film. Sometimes I actually pause the movie and go to the restroom for that. Sometimes.
///

110 Clemente  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:45:47am

A long, last(?), goodbye...

NASA aims for May 11 launch of Hubble mission

Atlantis' crew will conduct five spacewalks to replace and repair science instruments at Hubble, and install new equipment that should keep the orbiting telescope running for another five to 10 years.

It's been a great run, still, given NASA's resourcefulness in extending the use of working assets, I wouldn't be surprised if the grim predictions are again premature.

111 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:45:57am

re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth

I always recommend waiting for DVD. For the price of a "single admission", you and as many friends/family as you like can watch it, and as many times as you like until you return it.

I also like the fact that I can smoke, drink, and eat whatever I like while watching the film, without taking out a small loan.

Bonus: I can pee whenever I like without missing a moment of the film. Sometimes I actually pause the movie and go to the restroom for that. Sometimes.
///

If you subscribe to Netflix or Blockbuster Online the cost per unit drops even to less than a single admission. On average each DVD I get costs me about $1.50 - $1.75. Then the only cost is the electricity I use and the chair I find becoming smaller as I sit so much.

112 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:48:17am

re: #106 Crux Australis

I need some movie watching advice. Which movie do I spend $10 watching?

1) Star Trek
2) X Men :Wolverine
or
3) Wait for DVD

neither: the only good GREAT movie released recently is Gran Torino...

113 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:49:49am

re: #112 redc1c4

I just recently saw that. I was a bit disappointed by the low body count, but it was a great movie none the less.

114 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:50:19am

re: #110 Clemente

A long, last(?), goodbye...

NASA aims for May 11 launch of Hubble mission

It's been a great run, still, given NASA's resourcefulness in extending the use of working assets, I wouldn't be surprised if the grim predictions are again premature.

no: the shuttle is going to be NMC shortly, and there is no replacement. Ear Leader and congress will need the money for bread and circuses, so Hubble and we are both screwed.

115 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:50:38am

re: #112 redc1c4

neither: the only good GREAT movie released recently is Gran Torino...

You really expect the ST fanboys to give the new flick a pass? PUH-LEEZE.

The nerds were mad Berman and Braga killed the franchise and yet don't want someone else mucking up their vision of what ST should be.

116 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:52:39am

re: #113 Slumbering Behemoth

I just recently saw that. I was a bit disappointed by the low body count, but it was a great movie none the less.

he did that on purpose... think about the advertising. you expected a traditional shoot'em up., but you got a classic instead.

the man is a master and a national treasure.

for all that he got 0 oscars.

117 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:53:32am

re: #95 redc1c4

When stupidity become airborne contagious we will all be so screwed from the dimbulb Congress.

118 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:55:00am

re: #116 redc1c4

he did that on purpose... think about the advertising. you expected a traditional shoot'em up., but you got a classic instead.

the man is a master and a national treasure.

for all that he got 0 oscars.

He's a conservative so you really expect the academy to honor the man? PUH-LEEZE, this is Hollyweird we are talking about; Moon-bat Liberal is their creed.

119 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:55:12am

re: #116 redc1c4


More or less the same with Unforgiven...

120 Crux Australis  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:57:18am

re: #114 redc1c4

no: the shuttle is going to be NMC shortly, and there is no replacement. Ear Leader and congress will need the money for bread and circuses, so Hubble and we are both screwed.

I read somewhere that there will only another 5 or 7 shuttle missions to finish the ISS (International Space Station) and that's it. Is that correct?

I am bemused by Obama's lack of vision as far as manned space fight is concerned. Very little interest at all.

121 Crux Australis  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:58:50am

bbiab, my evening TV viewing is about to start.

122 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:59:29am

re: #116 redc1c4

I was hoping for at least one punk not feeling lucky, terminally, but it was a great film regardless. Genius piece of work, IMO.

National treasure indeed. I've run across a very small handful of "famous" folk, and really couldn't give enough of a fuck to even acknowledge them, but I think I would go full-on dork if I ever ran into Clint.

123 Clemente  Fri, May 1, 2009 12:59:45am

re: My #110 Clemente

A better article y-linked off of space.com.

re: #114 redc1c4

Sad, but too likely true.

124 shiplord kirel  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:00:13am

Catching up here in the middle of the night again.
It just happens that there is an oblique personal angle to the posted story on the Texas BoE kook contingent targeting the social studies curriculum. My brother Judas (not his real name but it should be) and his wife, my ex-wife Jezebel (aka Jabba the Slutt) are publicly outspoken associates and supporters of one of the nut-fringe "experts" brought in by the board.
Since I am publicly involved in opposing the nut-fringe agenda in Texas; well, the possibilities can be imagined.

125 freetoken  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:04:01am

re: #124 shiplord kirel

Do you get together with them for Thanksgiving (or Christmas) dinner? I can imagine that it would be an interesting mix...

126 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:04:12am

re: #124 shiplord kirel

Whoa, and I thought there was something to the old adage: "You can't help who your parents are." With relatives like that, who needs enemies? You have my sympathies, friend.

127 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:04:48am

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

P.S. His legend will live on long after the fading relevance of the glad-handing shit storm know as "The Oscar's" drops from the Prime Time networks and goes cable.

128 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:05:43am

re: #125 freetoken

Catch it on Jerry Springer, the "Thanksgiving Episode";-)

Food fight!

129 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:06:17am

re: #127 Slumbering Behemoth

P.S. His legend will live on long after the fading relevance of the glad-handing shit storm know as "The Oscar's" drops from the Prime Time networks and goes cable.


public-access.

130 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:07:54am

re: #128 theheat

Catch it on Jerry Springer, the "Thanksgiving Episode";-)

Food fight!

I think the ultimate proof that the Springer show was staged was who the fuck would be dumb enough to go on the Springer show expecting someone to break the good news?

131 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:09:33am

re: #130 Fenway_Nation

Killjoy! What's next, you're going to burst my bubble and tell me big time wrestling is staged?

132 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:09:57am

re: #120 Crux Australis

I read somewhere that there will only another 5 or 7 shuttle missions to finish the ISS (International Space Station) and that's it. Is that correct?

I am bemused by Obama's lack of vision as far as manned space fight is concerned. Very little interest at all.

It was Bush's lack of vision that has fallen on Obama here. As much as I may dislike the POTUS' policies I can not in good conscience pass the buck beyond where it should be.

And the real cock-up happened IIRC when the freshly minted Dem majority after the 2006 mid-terms shot down any budget proposals for the replacement simply because it was Bush doing the requesting.

133 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:11:00am

re: #124 shiplord kirel

Well, damn.

134 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:11:42am

Justice Souter to retire.

Who the HELL is this bastard going to appoint?

Ugh.

135 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:11:49am

re: #131 theheat

Killjoy! What's next, you're going to burst my bubble and tell me big time wrestling is staged?

Santa Claus is just some fat hairy bum the department store hired off the street. ;)

136 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:12:34am

re: #134 TheMatrix31

Good thing we didn't elect that gawt-damned RINO McCain, eh?

137 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:13:04am

re: #134 TheMatrix31

Justice Souter to retire.

Who the HELL is this bastard going to appoint?

Ugh.

Someone who will make Souter look ULTRA Conservative in comparison.

138 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:14:01am

re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth

Good thing we didn't elect that gawt-damned RINO McCain, eh?

I mean, Souter was one of the more liberal ones wasn't he? Still though, there's gonna be some real nutbag appointed.

139 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:14:21am

re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth

Good thing we didn't elect that gawt-damned RINO McCain, eh?

Oh, doing that would have been the end of the Republic toot sweet. Not this slow drawn out bleed to death by paper cuts we got with the current POTUS.

/ is it sarcasm or is it memorex?

140 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:14:46am

re: #135 FurryOldGuyJeans

That explains all that coal in my stocking.

141 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:15:31am

re: #140 theheat

That explains all that coal in my stocking.

Right now having coal would be a benefit since that is free fuel to heat the house and stove.

142 shiplord kirel  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:16:47am

re: #125 freetoken

Do you get together with them for Thanksgiving (or Christmas) dinner? I can imagine that it would be an interesting mix...

I really only see them at funerals. We were also together at my daughter's wedding, since Jezebel is (regrettably) her mother. When they first ran off together they invented a legend that I was mentally ill, abusive, and an all-round ne'er-do-well, forcing my heroic brother to step in and allow my wife and baby to take refuge with him. This was mostly invented to mollify her family, since nobody who had been around us much would believe a word of it.
Crazy, lazy, and violent though I was alleged to be, I eventually became a doctor of science, a writer of some small repute, an elected official, and a field grade officer of the army reserve. Interestingly enough, a certain branch of my family still accepts the insane legend and supports Judas and Jezebel to this day. This is the nut-fringe fundamentalist branch, which I do not think is coincidence.

143 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:17:39am

re: #141 FurryOldGuyJeans

I don't know about you, but we're so optimistic about Obama's stimulus plan, we've taken to burning money to stay warm.

///

144 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:18:08am

re: #138 TheMatrix31

Whatever Souter was/is, I am not very confident in an Obama appointee.

I don't think the McCain/Palin ticket was the best of the best, but I'd have a bit more confidence in McCain's ability to pick a succeeding SCOTUS

145 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:19:58am

re: #143 theheat

I don't know about you, but we're so optimistic about Obama's stimulus plan, we've taken to burning money to stay warm.

///

The Germans during the 30's learned that was about what their money was worth being used for. We came close here thanks to FDR and his merry band of Socialists and all the alphabet soup agencies he foisted on the public trying to smoke and mirror his way to getting into a war.

146 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:20:56am

Awesome...Echo & The Bunnymen on XM. Haven't heard from them in ages...

147 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:21:39am
148 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:22:21am

re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth

Whatever Souter was/is, I am not very confident in an Obama appointee.

I don't think the McCain/Palin ticket was the best of the best, but I'd have a bit more confidence in McCain's ability to pick a succeeding SCOTUS

I am very confident in an Obama appointee.

Extremely confident it will the absolute worst possible choice for maintaining a democratic republic from becoming a socialist paradise shithole.

149 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:22:51am

re: #145 FurryOldGuyJeans

More likely, we'll be burning peat and boiling potatoes. My SIL is from Siberia, so I suppose we can pick up some survival tips from her.

150 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:23:55am

re: #149 theheat

More likely, we'll be burning peat and boiling potatoes. My SIL is from Siberia, so I suppose we can pick up some survival tips from her.

If she is from Siberia she will most likely want to have the potatoes saved for some home brewed vodka.

151 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:27:52am

re: #150 FurryOldGuyJeans

That leaves us with fish eye soup with a vodka chaser.

I can't remember who, but one of the lizards awhile back said during WWII the Russians were drinking fuel (or was it brake fluid) from planes (?), because of the high alcohol content. Mind boggling.

152 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:29:30am

re: #147 Iron Fist

We could hardly get worse. We might conceivably get better. A big, knockdown dragout with the Senate over his appointment of Justice Cindy Shehan could be entertaining and informative. Explain to the Country how far Left he really is. That'll effect the way he'll aproach it. We might wind up with Janice Rodgers Brown. Her skintone is good, and she's also a second kind of representative of a minority, that of unwed female. Maybe she should make a pass at Babs Boxer...get the trifecta... Dare the racist, homophobe andi-Women's Star chamber to undo her.

That has potential, but coming out of the closet so abruptly would just boggle their minds.

Blah.

153 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:29:54am

re: #151 theheat

That leaves us with fish eye soup with a vodka chaser.

I can't remember who, but one of the lizards awhile back said during WWII the Russians were drinking fuel (or was it brake fluid) from planes (?), because of the high alcohol content. Mind boggling.

I had always heard it was the anti-freeze from vehicles since the Red Army used vodka.

154 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:32:50am

re: #152 TheMatrix31

Blah.

From the article:

Some of the names that have been circulating include recently confirmed Solicitor General Elena Kagan; U.S. Appeals Court Judges Sonya Sotomayor, Kim McLane Wardlaw, Sandra Lea Lynch and Diane Pamela Wood; and Leah Ward Sears, chief justice of the Georgia Supreme Court. Men who have been mentioned as potential nominees include Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, Harvard Law professor Cass Sunstein and U.S. District Judge Ruben Castillo of Chicago.

Not a single name is even remotely familiar to me, that bodes nothing good.

155 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:33:06am

Is 3.55% a good rate on a certificate of deposit? I kinda thought so at first, but it turns out this is a 36-month CD, not a 6, 9, or 12 month one...

156 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:33:40am

re: #153 FurryOldGuyJeans

Anti-freeze is more likely, yes.

157 shiplord kirel  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:34:40am

re: #137 FurryOldGuyJeans

Someone who will make Souter look ULTRA Conservative in comparison.

Hmmm... Well lemme see. B*O's neighbor Bernadine Dohrn is out. She went to law school but the powers that be wouldn't admit her to the bar, something about being a convicted terrorist and all.
Lynne Stewart might be available, depending on whether her endless appeals and heavy media support can keep her out of prison on her conviction for aiding and abetting terrorism.

158 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:34:55am

So you have become a militant vegan, but what have you done to heed the miserable cries of the carrots? Repent your murderous sins, and starve!

This. Is. Necessary.

Life. Feeds on life. Feeds on life.

159 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:35:35am

re: #154 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not a single name is even remotely familiar to me, that bodes nothing good.

Only one I've heard of is Deval Patrick. But I don't know anything about him.

160 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:35:38am

re: #151 theheat

I've heard of Sioux indians doing similar stuff on the reservations.

161 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:38:34am

re: #159 TheMatrix31

Only one I've heard of is Deval Patrick. But I don't know anything about him.

I have noticed O loves to pull a bait and switch when it comes to appointees. The list of possible names may just be sacrificial lambs so he can appoint his real choice (read far left) at the last minute to better stop the voters from expressing their view to their representatives.

162 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:38:40am

re: #117 FurryOldGuyJeans

When stupidity become airborne contagious we will all be so screwed from the dimbulb Congress.

not me: ethanol is a disinfectant.

163 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:39:28am

re: #162 redc1c4

not me: ethanol is a disinfectant.

It is only if you refrain from imbibing it, you know. ;)

164 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:39:36am

re: #154 FurryOldGuyJeans


Deval Cadillac Patrick...replaced Romney as the governor of Massachusetts. I got a preview of the MSM ball-washing reminiscent of 0bama when various Boston media types appeared before the camera and began gushing about how it was a great day for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts because they elected their first black governor and wasn't it wonderful and blah blah blah...

Do you know what network I was watching when all these ass-kissing statements were being made?

ESPN.

165 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:42:00am

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

I was hoping for at least one punk not feeling lucky, terminally, but it was a great film regardless. Genius piece of work, IMO.

National treasure indeed. I've run across a very small handful of "famous" folk, and really couldn't give enough of a fuck to even acknowledge them, but I think I would go full-on dork if I ever ran into Clint.

i've met only a few, but i can tell you that Anthony Hopkins is a gentleman's gentleman, at least when i met him by accident.

the rest of those hollywood assholes should sign up for lessons from him on courtesy and decorum.

166 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:42:07am

re: #164 Fenway_Nation

Deval Cadillac Patrick...replaced Romney as the governor of Massachusetts. I got a preview of the MSM ball-washing reminiscent of 0bama when various Boston media types appeared before the camera and began gushing about how it was a great day for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts because they elected their first black governor and wasn't it wonderful and blah blah blah...

Do you know what network I was watching when all these ass-kissing statements were being made?

ESPN.

And you wonder why I refuse to classify myself as an athletic supporter? ;)

167 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:44:32am

re: #125 freetoken

Do you get together with them for Thanksgiving (or Christmas) dinner? I can imagine that it would be an interesting mix...

and if so, can i come along for the adventure?

168 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:44:49am

re: #157 shiplord kirel

Hmmm... Well lemme see. B*O's neighbor Bernadine Dohrn is out. She went to law school but the powers that be wouldn't admit her to the bar, something about being a convicted terrorist and all.
Lynne Stewart might be available, depending on whether her endless appeals and heavy media support can keep her out of prison on her conviction for aiding and abetting terrorism.

If I understand the requirements for a SCOTUS Justices, being a member of the bar is not one of them.

/ time to do some Constitutional research in the morning

169 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:46:24am

re: #165 redc1c4

i've met only a few, but i can tell you that Anthony Hopkins is a gentleman's gentleman, at least when i met him by accident.

Ditto for Ed Harris.

170 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:46:24am

re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth

Good thing we didn't elect that gawt-damned RINO McCain, eh?

and the difference would have been...?

/be honest now.

171 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:48:12am

re: #141 FurryOldGuyJeans

Right now having coal would be a benefit since that is free fuel to heat the house and stove.

minus the EPA fines for CO2 emissions, of course.

172 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:49:40am

re: #171 redc1c4

minus the EPA fines for CO2 emissions, of course.

Just start up a cap and trade company like Al did and you are immune.

173 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:50:06am

re: #170 redc1c4

and the difference would have been...?

As I said in another post, I would have a bit more confidence in a McCain appointee than an Obama appointee.

Honest enough?

174 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:50:28am

re: #142 shiplord kirel

I really only see them at funerals. We were also together at my daughter's wedding, since Jezebel is (regrettably) her mother. When they first ran off together they invented a legend that I was mentally ill, abusive, and an all-round ne'er-do-well, forcing my heroic brother to step in and allow my wife and baby to take refuge with him. This was mostly invented to mollify her family, since nobody who had been around us much would believe a word of it.
Crazy, lazy, and violent though I was alleged to be, I eventually became a doctor of science, a writer of some small repute, an elected official, and a field grade officer of the army reserve. Interestingly enough, a certain branch of my family still accepts the insane legend and supports Judas and Jezebel to this day. This is the nut-fringe fundamentalist branch, which I do not think is coincidence.

what branch, if you don't mind me asking?

175 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:51:36am

re: #170 redc1c4

He probably would've kneed Chavez in the groin once he tried handing off that crappy book.

/Before asking an aide 'Who the fuck was that?'

176 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:52:01am

re: #170 redc1c4

and the difference would have been...?

/be honest now.

The appointee would not be beyond the shadow of the doubt as being far left of Stalin if McCain had been the POTUS.

But then I doubt Souter would have stepped down if O hadn't been elected.

No matter who gets appointed the person will be someone who will be on the SCOTUS bench for decades.

177 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:52:18am

re: #173 Slumbering Behemoth

As I said in another post, I would have a bit more confidence in a McCain appointee than an Obama appointee.

Honest enough?

yeah, but in my mind it's still more or less, "6/5 and pick'em", since McLame would have felt obligated to demonstrate his famous "bipartisanship" and replaced Souter with a similar pick.

178 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:53:25am

re: #177 redc1c4

yeah, but in my mind it's still more or less, "6/5 and pick'em", since McLame would have felt obligated to demonstrate his famous "bipartisanship" and replaced Souter with a similar pick.

It most likely have been a toss-up with McCain, but the surety with O is beyond depressing.

179 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:53:40am

re: #176 FurryOldGuyJeans

No matter who gets appointed the person will be someone who will be on the SCOTUS bench for decades.

Is there an age requirement?

I can totally imagine some fucker radical in his late 20s being nominated so he can be in there for 50 years.

180 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:54:58am

re: #179 TheMatrix31

Is there an age requirement?

I can totally imagine some fucker radical in his late 20s being nominated so he can be in there for 50 years.

To my knowledge and recollection there is none. Only for Congress and POTUS IIRC.

181 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:56:12am

re: #177 redc1c4

Maybe. But it's all "what ifs" at this point. Whatever SCOTUS vacancy pops up, Obama will be in charge of filling it. Given a choice between the two, I'd rather have McCain making those choices.

182 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:57:10am

re: #179 TheMatrix31

Oh Jesus...Chesa Boudin on the supreme court.

183 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:57:26am

re: #163 FurryOldGuyJeans

It is only if you refrain from imbibing it, you know. ;)

so you think... my body is intelligently designed to w*rk differently.

184 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:58:05am

re: #182 Fenway_Nation

Oh Jesus...Chesa Boudin on the supreme court.

Who the hell is that?

185 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:59:30am

re: #181 Slumbering Behemoth

Maybe. But it's all "what ifs" at this point. Whatever SCOTUS vacancy pops up, Obama will be in charge of filling it. Given a choice between the two, I'd rather have McCain making those choices.

You have just touched on the ONLY reason I had any enthusiasm for a McCain candidacy, SCOTUS appointments.

186 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 1:59:33am

re: #184 TheMatrix31

Who the hell is that?

Oh, Weather Underground punks.

187 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:00:04am

re: #184 TheMatrix31

Who the hell is that?

a cajun sausage with cheese, if i'm reading the name right.

188 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:00:24am

re: #183 redc1c4

so you think... my body is intelligently designed to w*rk differently.

From what I have heard work is not what it does, lazy bum is more its speed. ;)

189 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:00:26am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

190 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:01:09am

fruitcup!

191 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:01:19am

re: #187 redc1c4

a cajun sausage with cheese, if i'm reading the name right.

Now that would actually be a half-way decent SCOTUS appointment.

192 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:01:41am

re: #182 Fenway_Nation

Could be worse, imagine SCOTUS Behemoth. Mandatory beer breaks in the workplace, and state governors chosen by tri-tip 'que offs.

193 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:02:22am

Possible SCOTUS, Harvard Law Professor Cass Sunstein: The Obama I Knew.

Gulp.

194 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:03:28am

re: #185 FurryOldGuyJeans

Same here, sad to say. Well that, and a hope that our serving men and women wouldn't get shit on by a veteran.

195 shiplord kirel  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:03:53am

re: #174 redc1c4

what branch, if you don't mind me asking?

My mother's extended family for the most part, especially her brother and a few of my cousins. My father's family will literally not speak to them.

196 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:04:33am

re: #188 FurryOldGuyJeans

From what I have heard work is not what it does, lazy bum is more its speed. ;)

well, i'm built for comfort, not for speed.

197 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:05:00am

re: #124 shiplord kirel

Whenever a member of my (dysfunctional) family pulls a particularly nasty trick I think of you, shiplord.

I'll be forever grateful to you for giving me the ability to say, "Well, it COULD be worse."

/not that I'd wish the sort of pain you went through on anyone...but you should know there's a tiny silver lining out there!

198 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:05:07am

re: #189 littleoldlady

I'll take a fruitcup. (Warning: some crazy Russian spiked the punch bowl with anti-freeze tonight.)

199 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:05:33am

red! :-)

200 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:06:12am

re: #184 TheMatrix31

Red Diaper Doper Baby foster-son of Ayers and Dorn. Biological mommy and daddy were friends of Ayers from the earlier Weather Underground days, but couldn't raise him 'cause they're both in prison for their role in the murder of two Nyack N.Y. police officers and a Brinks Armoured Truck guard.

If that wasn't enough, this piece of shit was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship.

201 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:06:34am

re: #195 shiplord kirel

My mother's extended family for the most part, especially her brother and a few of my cousins. My father's family will literally not speak to them.

the one you made field grade in, not the one's you're suck with.

202 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:06:43am
203 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:07:01am

re: #198 theheat

I'll take a fruitcup. (Warning: some crazy Russian spiked the punch bowl with anti-freeze tonight.)

i'm neither russian nor crazy.

204 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:07:30am

re: #189 littleoldlady

Say, {LoL}, does that pic I usually link of the toddler kissing a pig snout really bother you? If so, I will stop linking it in reference to your fruitcup posts, but no guarantees about never linking it otherwise.

I happen to think the pic is adorable, and I never linked it with the intent to gross you out or offend you.

205 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:08:37am

Don't know why the link didn't work...

Barack Obama's First 100 Days -- Facebook Style

[Link: globalgrind.com...]

206 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:08:39am

re: #198 theheat

theheat! :-)

Whatever it takes... ;-)

207 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:08:43am

re: #202 TheMatrix31

Barack Obama's First 100 Days -- Facebook Style

You sure got the correct link there, nothing. ;)

208 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:09:18am

re: #204 Slumbering Behemoth

Say, {LoL}, does that pic I usually link of the toddler kissing a pig snout really bother you? If so, I will stop linking it in reference to your fruitcup posts, but no guarantees about never linking it otherwise.

I happen to think the pic is adorable, and I never linked it with the intent to gross you out or offend you.

it's just not kosher...

209 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:09:25am

re: #203 redc1c4

Heh. I figured you weren't Russian.

210 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:09:55am

re: #205 TheMatrix31

Don't know why the link didn't work...

Barack Obama's First 100 Days -- Facebook Style

[Link: globalgrind.com...]

Did you feed the hamsters before you tried to post the link originally?

211 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:10:50am

re: #204 Slumbering Behemoth

I happen to think the pic is adorable

You are NOT a mother.

/obviously ;-)

I have an almost uncontrollable urge to WASH that baby, inside and out, when I see that picture.

/blech! pui! gag!

Slumbering! :-)

212 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:11:11am

re: #203 redc1c4

I never said it was you;-) Could have been Professor Plum, Colonel Mustard...

213 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:11:33am

re: #208 redc1c4

it's just not kosher...

mmm, kosher... *drools*

214 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:12:50am

re: #212 theheat

I never said it was you;-) Could have been Professor Plum, Colonel Mustard...

You said crazy...that narrows the field to only one red around here. ;)

215 UncleRancher  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:13:34am
216 gmsc  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:14:20am

re: #189 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Yummy!

I couldn't get to sleep, and figured some fruitcup might help.
:)

217 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:14:26am

OH fuck me! Boudin's biological mommy has been out on parole for the last six years...bitch should've just made the world a better place and ate some of the white hot shrapnel in Greenwich village that they planed on letting lose against GI's in Ft. Dix.

Wonder if the families of Ed O'Grady, Waverly Brown or Peter Paige had any say in wether or not this fucking hag should see the light of day again.

218 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:14:56am

re: #211 littleoldlady


You are NOT a mother.

You should ask my friends, they would tend to disagree. It should be noted, however, that they append that title with a rather vulgar qualifier.

219 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:15:17am

re: #210 FurryOldGuyJeans

Did you feed the hamsters before you tried to post the link originally?

LOL I have no idea what that means.

220 shiplord kirel  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:15:32am

re: #201 redc1c4

the one you made field grade in, not the one's you're suck with.

Oh (slapping forehead)
ADA. I started in aviation. Then I lost my flight status (vision, uncorrectable) and, on the theory that if you can't join 'em, beat 'em, I moved to air defense artillery. I worked with Nike Hercules (which I still think was the best SAM ever made), HAWK, Chaparral, and the snake-bitten American Roland (not wonderful). I did some work on Patriot but was never assigned to a Patriot unit. I was also rather fond of the tracked Vulcan gun and its trailered version, and of guns in general as opposed to missiles.

221 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:15:58am

re: #218 Slumbering Behemoth

You should ask my friends, they would tend to disagree. It should be noted, however, that they append that title with a rather vulgar qualifier.

Your friends sound a lot like mine. ;)

222 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:16:19am
223 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:17:17am

re: #219 TheMatrix31

LOL I have no idea what that means.

You have never heard of the hamsters that power the lgf servers?!?

OMG! We have a HERETIC here! BLASPHEMER!

UNCLEAN!

/ is it sarcasm or is it memorex?

224 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:18:20am

re: #211 littleoldlady

You are NOT a mother.

/obviously ;-)

I have an almost uncontrollable urge to WASH that baby, inside and out, when I see that picture.

/blech! pui! gag!

Slumbering! :-)

sorry Mom: I'm a boy.

225 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:18:38am

UncleRancher! :-)

gmsc! :-)

My Insomnimania is contagious? :-(

226 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:19:27am

re: #214 FurryOldGuyJeans

You said crazy...that narrows the field to only one red around here. ;)

well, since i'm the only normal person here, especially at this time of the night...

227 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:19:40am

re: #225 littleoldlady

UncleRancher! :-)

gmsc! :-)

My Insomnimania is contagious? :-(

Yeah, it is.

*SNORE*

228 gmsc  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:19:49am

re: #225 littleoldlady

UncleRancher! :-)

gmsc! :-)

My Insomnimania is contagious? :-(

I've got littleoldlady fever, and the only prescription is more fruitcup!

229 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:20:32am

re: #223 FurryOldGuyJeans

You have never heard of the hamsters that power the lgf servers?!?

OMG! We have a HERETIC here! BLASPHEMER!

UNCLEAN!

/ is it sarcasm or is it memorex?

I always saw the word hamster thrown around, never figured out what it meant lol.

Now I know!

230 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:20:47am

re: #226 redc1c4

well, since i'm the only normal person here, especially at this time of the night...

You sure have a strange definition of normal if that is what you are calling yourself now. ;)

231 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:21:35am

re: #228 gmsc

I've got littleoldlady fever, and the only prescription is more fruitcup!

I've got a fevah...

232 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:22:03am

re: #220 shiplord kirel

Oh (slapping forehead)
ADA. I started in aviation. Then I lost my flight status (vision, uncorrectable) and, on the theory that if you can't join 'em, beat 'em, I moved to air defense artillery. I worked with Nike Hercules (which I still think was the best SAM ever made), HAWK, Chaparral, and the snake-bitten American Roland (not wonderful). I did some work on Patriot but was never assigned to a Patriot unit. I was also rather fond of the tracked Vulcan gun and its trailered version, and of guns in general as opposed to missiles.

sounds like fun, all around... i retired as a SP4. various MOS's

/no, really, i did. %-)

233 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:22:40am

re: #228 gmsc

OY!

;-)

234 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:23:22am

re: #226 redc1c4

Coincidentally, What About Bob Red was just on cable, like two seconds ago. No, I'm not implying anything...

235 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:24:02am

re: #228 gmsc

I've got littleoldlady fever, and the only prescription is more fruitcup!

cat scratch fever...

/watch out for those cougars!

236 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:24:38am

re: #189 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Yum! Did you put some sort of sedatives in there? I thought that might've been red's purvey...but now I'm a little calmer after reading about the mewling brat of cop-killers who now has a friend in the White House...

/not much, mind you...

237 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:24:55am

re: #225 littleoldlady

My Insomnimania is contagious?

No, the room just tends to light up when you're around. "Insomnimania", I like that. I'll be ripping that off in the future.

238 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:25:28am

re: #230 FurryOldGuyJeans

You sure have a strange definition of normal if that is what you are calling yourself now. ;)

thanks for proving my point.

/white smoke

239 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:28:30am

re: #233 littleoldlady

OY!

;-)

OI!

240 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:28:55am

Fenway! :-)

I don't share my sedatives.

/sorry!

;-)

241 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:28:57am

Ewww! George Micheal...doesn't this poofter have a date in a public bathroom somewhere?

242 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:29:41am

re: #240 littleoldlady

Fenway! :-)

I don't share my sedatives.

/sorry!

;-)

that's what you think...

/white smoke

243 gmsc  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:30:04am

re: #233 littleoldlady

OY!

;-)

Fruitcup & Peggy Lee!

That's a good way to send me off to dreamland.
:)

I guess maybe I shouldn't have kept myself up with Vincent and The Tell-Tale Heart.

244 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:30:20am

re: #239 redc1c4

You're trying to wake me up, aren't you?

245 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:31:03am

re: #240 littleoldlady

I don't share my sedatives.


/verybigsigh...

246 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:31:27am

re: #237 Slumbering Behemoth

Insomnimania™

Go ahead. ;-)

/Royalties 'R Us

247 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:31:42am

Nite Lizards. Don't bogart that fruitcup, it's for everyone.

248 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:31:51am

re: #245 Fenway_Nation

/verybigsigh...

have some more fruitcup...

/trust me %-)

249 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:33:12am

re: #244 littleoldlady

You're trying to wake me up, aren't you?

might as well, i should have been in bed hours ago: i gotta be someplace in the AM to sign up for a new program

250 gmsc  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:33:17am

re: #240 littleoldlady

Fenway! :-)

I don't share my sedatives.

/sorry!

;-)

"SED-A-GIVE?!?"

251 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:33:26am

re: #246 littleoldlady

Insomnimania™

Go ahead. ;-)

/Royalties 'R Us

We are all Insomnimaniacs™.

252 gmsc  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:33:44am

re: #247 Slumbering Behemoth

Nite Lizards. Don't bogart that fruitcup, it's for everyone.

Good night, SB.

I'm going to try again. Good night, all!

253 redc1c4  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:33:48am

hasta y'all...

L8r!

254 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:34:31am

Good night to Red and GM!

255 harry catbox  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:34:32am

Mom always said a sense of humor is your best friend.
However, she also said be your own best friend.
This is confusing but I choose to have a sense of humor about it.

256 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:34:42am

'Night, Slumbering! :-)

gmsc! :-)

257 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:36:00am

*SNORE* *mumble*fruitcup*mumble* *SNORE*

258 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:38:28am

New U.S. Savings Bonds rates will be announced later on today. I'm not holding my breath that the best of them will be above 3%...

259 theheat  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:39:21am

While the fruitcup is definitely invigorating, unfortunately the anti-freeze got the best of me. I have an early am conference call to look forward to. Goodnight all, and enjoy the insomnimania™.

260 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:39:22am

Bye red! Bye slumbering! Byre gmsc!

261 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:40:35am

Morning Lizards.

262 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:41:22am

Yay! Siouxsie and the Banshees and Bacardi & Coke fruitcup...

263 littleoldlady  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:41:25am

FurryOldGuyJeans! :-)

rightside! :-)

I have to call someone. Back in a bit...

264 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:42:09am

re: #261 rightside

Morning rightside!

265 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:42:26am

re: #263 littleoldlady

re: #264 Fenway_Nation

lol!
Fenway!

266 brandon13  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:47:14am

Another bourbon filled night.

Cheap bourbon and coke. A nice mix.

267 brandon13  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:49:25am

re: #266 brandon13

Another bourbon filled night.

Cheap bourbon and coke. A nice mix.

That's Coke, btw, not coke.

268 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:51:17am

Here are a couple more Coach's Corner segments you might be interested in, rightside.

269 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:51:22am

re: #267 brandon13

That's Coke™, btw, not coke.

270 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 2:54:43am

re: #268 Fenway_Nation

awesome, thanks!

271 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:08:57am

This is the most recent Veteran's Day edition of Coach's Corner- there was no blatantly disrecpectful episode of the Simpsons targeting American soldiers that aired that weekend. Instead, more ominous and depressing developments overshadowed the days leading up to that broadcast of Hockey Night in Canada.

I wonder if Keith Olberman would be brave enough to have Don Cherry as a guest on his show.

272 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:19:48am

re: #271 Fenway_Nation

I wonder if Keith Olberman would be brave enough to have Don Cherry as a guest on his show.

Long answer? No.

273 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:29:40am

re: #272 rightside

Hmmm...they say you shouldn't go to be angry, but I mentioned Keith 0lberman and his crappy whore show...so what should I do to get myself to mellow the fuck out?

Well...there's always a paragraph from this article:

MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, who owns three $850 Legends Suite season tickets, was unhappy prices were cut only for those with front-row seats while others will be given additional tickets.

"If they're offering only selective refunds, depend upon it: There are going to be lawsuits," he said. "Great, more tickets nobody wants. The silver lining here is that even more charities are going to be getting even more tickets from me."

Maybe that ass-weasel can have ACORN members show up to pad Tankee Yankee Stadium's attendence figures.

274 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:30:56am

re: #273 Fenway_Nation

Libs love spending money.
.
.
.
.
.
.
other peoples'

275 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:32:35am

CNN reported earlier swine flu deaths in Mexico are only 12. However thats because only 12 of the 176 suspected deaths have been confirmed. Is this maybe CNN backing Obama's decision that there is little risk in this Flu?

276 NYCHardhat  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:33:36am

The Right Needs to Play as Dirty as the Left

Amen. As a conservative I pride myself for being above the moonbat looniness. However, the gloves need to come off. If they don't, the Libs will own the country.

277 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:34:30am

Good morning, Lizards!
{Rustler}
{rightside}
{Fenway Nation}

Dear Charles: would you please use your considerable talent to create an autocomplete for Lizard names?

278 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:34:56am

Morning all. looks like our friends in the UAE just might not get that reactor technology after all.

UAE torture recording threatens to derail nuclear deal with United States

Why we even considered this deal in the first place is beyond me.

279 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:35:10am

re: #274 rightside

They're generous to a fault with other people's money...

Well...I'm reasonably mellower now. Gonna head off to bed. Give my regards to the other morning-shift lizards!

280 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:35:58am

The Mexican health office is only able to test and confirm 65 samples every 6 hours or 260 a day and it looks like testing is primarily for the still living victims of the flu or maybe it's just random and they've only managed to confirm 12 due to the randomness.

281 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:36:48am

re: #277 goddessoftheclassroom

{Goddessoftheclassroom} Morning teach.

282 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:37:56am

re: #276 NYCHardhat

{NYCHardhat}

I so agree. A contest of any kind--chess, football, politics, war--can only be "fair" if BOTH sides agree to the rules of engagement. If one side allows the other to break those rules, it has already lost.

As Scarlet O'Hara Hamilton Kennedy (eventually Butler) said, "Pride tastes really good heaped in a pie with lots of meringue on top."

One has to play by his opponent's terms if that opponent won't play by his.

283 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:38:22am

Good morning Lizardia!
What a fine sunny morning here.

284 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:38:35am

re: #278 Bubblehead II

{Bubblehead}

And yet waterboarding has libs screaming.

285 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:38:37am

G'nite Rightside!
G'nite Rustler!
G'nite Goddess!
G'nite Bubblehead!
G'nite NYCHardhat!

286 NYCHardhat  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:39:09am

re: #285 Fenway_Nation

G'nite Rightside!
G'nite Rustler!
G'nite Goddess!
G'nite Bubblehead!
G'nite NYCHardhat!

Later dude.

287 NYCHardhat  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:40:37am

re: #283 callahan23

Good morning Lizardia!
What a fine sunny morning here.

:D

288 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:40:53am

re: #277 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

289 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:41:13am

re: #285 Fenway_Nation

goodnight, Fenway.

290 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:41:28am

re: #284 goddessoftheclassroom


Waterboarding was probably the absolute worst of it, too.

Please please please tell me the Dems are going to instigate some witchunt to see which Bush Admin. officials authorized placing a caterpillar in Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's cell...

291 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:41:41am

re: #266 brandon13

Another bourbon filled night.

Cheap bourbon and coke. A nice mix.

We need to get you drinking Basil Hayden's. Mixing it is forbidden.

292 NYCHardhat  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:42:40am

re: #290 Fenway_Nation

Waterboarding was probably the absolute worst of it, too.

Please please please tell me the Dems are going to instigate some witchunt to see which Bush Admin. officials authorized placing a caterpillar in Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's cell...

Life has become...surreal.

293 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:42:46am

OK...now I'm really going to bed.

294 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:43:14am

re: #284 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

/ but it is all a cultural thing and we must respect other peoples cultures.

dang, that just made my head hurt typing that.

295 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:43:21am

re: #287 NYCHardhat

:D

My wife (estranged) is away for a walk. So I've got time to mingle with true friends.
{NYCHardhat}

296 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:44:01am

re: #285 Fenway_Nation

Night.

297 NYCHardhat  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:44:20am

re: #295 callahan23

My wife (estranged) is away for a walk. So I've got time to mingle with true friends.
{NYCHardhat}

I'm flattered. I'm also saddened to hear that. I just broke up with my girlfriend as well.

298 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:47:32am

Looks like swine flu has been upgraded to Pandemic alert 5 out of a total of 6 now as well.

definitions of pandemic levels:

Phase 1 - no viruses circulating among animals have been reported to cause infections in humans.
Phase 2 - an animal influenza virus circulating among domesticated or wild animals is known to have caused infection in humans, and is therefore considered a potential pandemic threat.
Phase 3 - an animal or human-animal influenza reassortant virus has caused sporadic cases or small clusters of disease in people, but has not resulted in human-to-human transmission sufficient to sustain community-level outbreaks. Limited human-to-human transmission may occur under some circumstances, for example, when there is close contact between an infected person & an unprotected caregiver. However, limited transmission under such restricted circumstances does not indicate that the virus has gained the level of transmissibility among humans necessary to cause a pandemic.
Phase 4 - is characterized by verified human-to-human transmission of an animal or human-animal influenza reassortant virus able to cause “community-level outbreaks.” The ability to cause sustained disease outbreaks in a community marks a significant upwards shift in the risk for a pandemic. Any country that suspects or has verified such an event should urgently consult with WHO so that the situation can be jointly assessed & a decision made by the affected country if implementation of a rapid pandemic containment operation is warranted. Phase 4 indicates a significant increase in risk of a pandemic but does not necessarily mean that a pandemic is a forgone conclusion.
Phase 5 - is characterized by human to human spread of the virus into at least 2 countries in one WHO region. While most countries will not be affected at this stage, the declaration of Level 5 is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent & that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.
Phase 6 - the pandemic phase, is characterized by community level outbreaks in at least one other country in a different WHO region in addition to the criteria defined in Phase 5. Designation of this phase will indicate that a global pandemic is under way.

from WHO

299 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:49:04am

re: #297 NYCHardhat

I'm flattered. I'm also saddened to hear that. I just broke up with my girlfriend as well.

It is already three weeks ago that she announced to me that we split.
Sad to hear of your relationship mess.

300 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:51:16am

re: #299 callahan23

It is already three weeks ago that she announced to me that we split.
Sad to hear of your relationship mess.

{callahan23}
{NYCHardhat}

I'm very sorry for your pain. I'm the the midst of a difficult divorce, too. It may take two to make a marriage work, but it only takes one to destroy it (and believe me, I wasn't the one).

301 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:52:42am

re: #297 NYCHardhat

I'm flattered. I'm also saddened to hear that. I just broke up with my girlfriend as well.

On a lighter note I just passed 1-Sharmuta unit last night. Heh.

302 NYCHardhat  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:53:09am

re: #299 callahan23

re: #300 goddessoftheclassroom

I think I will be focusing my "attention" on my career for the time being.

303 NYCHardhat  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:53:52am

re: #301 callahan23

On a lighter note I just passed 1-Sharmuta unit last night. Heh.

That's awesome. Congratulations. That Sharmuta is a machine.

304 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:55:05am

re: #302 NYCHardhat

re: #300 goddessoftheclassroom

I think I will be focusing my "attention" on my career for the time being.

I wish you every success.

305 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:57:32am

re: #301 callahan23

Congrats. I still have a bit to go.

/ probably help if I posted more.

306 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:58:11am

re: #300 goddessoftheclassroom

{callahan23}
{NYCHardhat}

I'm very sorry for your pain. I'm the the midst of a difficult divorce, too. It may take two to make a marriage work, but it only takes one to destroy it (and believe me, I wasn't the one).

re: #302 NYCHardhat

{goddessoftheclassroom}
With us it was none of us who destroyed the relationship, it was the ever more differing interests.
{NYCHardhat}
I am working yet I have no career to speak of. I'll be focusing my attention on obtaining a green card in order to immigrate to the US.

307 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 1, 2009 3:58:56am

I must dash--have a great day, Lizards.

308 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:00:30am

re: #307 goddessoftheclassroom

I must dash--have a great day, Lizards.

'Disfruta el dia.' Enjoy the day.
{goddessoftheclassroom}

309 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:02:52am

re: #307 goddessoftheclassroom

May you have a good day.

310 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:02:53am

re: #303 NYCHardhat

That's awesome. Congratulations. That Sharmuta is a machine.

And a sane legend to me.
Like buzzsawmonkey is an inspired legend to me.

311 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:05:56am

Fucking chopped liver here.

312 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:06:36am

Can Israeli technology stop swine flu?
*snip*

"With this technology, I can know in real time about any epidemic breakout, and I can monitor it and immediately isolate the area," Sharon Soustiel, CartaSense's chief operation officer, said on Thursday.

313 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:07:29am

Is it just me, or is LGF running slow this morning?

314 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:09:25am

re: #313 Bubblehead II

Is it just me, or is LGF running slow this morning?

Nope, normal speed to me. Maybe it is only us Lizards who are slow to comment.

315 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:12:04am

re: #314 callahan23

Nope it isn't that. It's taking a while for comments to refresh and posts to upload. Might be time for a reboot on my end.

316 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:16:41am

re: #315 Bubblehead II

Nope it isn't that. It's taking a while for comments to refresh and posts to upload. Might be time for a reboot on my end.

Oh, just shoot yer computer. It'll add some excitement to your day.

317 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:22:08am

re: #316 MandyManners

Spent to much time and money putting it together to do that. BTW, you seen this?

Gingrich insult rankles RNC members

from the article.

They all think they’re precious, and they all think they should be taken care of, and they all think the job of the chairman, first of all, is to make the RNC members happy,” Gingrich said of the committee’s 168 members.

Ouch! That has to have left a bigger mark than your clue by four.

318 NYCHardhat  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:24:34am

re: #311 MandyManners

Fucking chopped liver here.

I love you Mandy.

319 Pupdawg  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:26:54am

Just when I think all is lost, another gorgeous sunrise appears and a chorus of morning birds sing its praises in perfect harmony. The day's first hummingbird floats effortlessly sipping early morning necter from the feeder as the smell of freshly brewed coffee permeates the kitchen. It's A Beautiful Day (Bono, U2).

320 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:27:25am

Okay! Dammit. Work starting now. Won't be finished to gosh knows when. How will I live without my peeps!

Y'all have a great day!

321 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:27:53am

re: #317 Bubblehead II

“Most of us are not receiving large sums from being on television, serving as commentators, giving speeches or writing books, nor do we devote our waking hours to playing politics,” Fisher said in a thinly veiled jab at Gingrich.

ZING!

I also liked this: “I think some of the members should spend more time trying to build the party on the state level and spend less time trying to micromanage the RNC and trying to tear down Michael Steele,” Daves said.

322 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:28:14am

re: #318 NYCHardhat

I love you Mandy.

*giggle*

323 Spare O'Lake  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:31:45am

Good Morning LGF.
The Tamil terrorists and their supporters finally, after four days and nights, decided yesterday to allow police to end their illegal occupation of one of Toronto's main streets in front of the US consulate.
I am extremely unimpressed with the Police Chief who idiotically announced that they had not broken the law. Of course the protesters had no permit to do this.
The demonstration continues on the sidewalk...

324 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:31:49am

re: #311 MandyManners
Sweet fish bait. Please share weather looks to be good for fishing.

325 brandon13  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:32:07am

re: #291 MandyManners

We need to get you drinking Basil Hayden's. Mixing it is forbidden.

I'll add it to my "To Drink" list.

326 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:32:21am

re: #319 Pupdawg

Just when I think all is lost, another gorgeous sunrise appears and a chorus of morning birds sing its praises in perfect harmony. The day's first hummingbird floats effortlessly sipping early morning necter from the feeder as the smell of freshly brewed coffee permeates the kitchen. It's A Beautiful Day (Bono, U2).

Just yesterday I was fantasizingg about shooting this particular bird singing at my window but I'm in a better mood this morning.


327 jcbunga  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:32:37am

Souter is retiring...somebody get the "All you who didn't vote for McCain" comment gassed up and ready to go...Also, I haven't seen SHOCKA or MAGNIFICENT BASTARD in awhile.

328 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:32:49am

re: #320 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay! Dammit. Work starting now. Won't be finished to gosh knows when. How will I live without my peeps!

Y'all have a great day!

Don't let the work drag you down too much. Have pleasant day.

329 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:33:02am

re: #324 Rustler

Sweet fish bait. Please share weather looks to be good for fishing.

I hope you catch some big ones!

330 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:33:19am

re: #325 brandon13

I'll add it to my "To Drink" list.

You'll never drink anything else.

331 Irish Rose  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:34:04am

Good morning lizards, it's Friday at last!

Oy, what a week.

332 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:34:34am

I'm gonna' hop into the shower. I spent some time at the salon the other day and have a new 'do and my shower took just seven minutes yesterday. bbiab

333 jcbunga  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:34:57am

...and good morning from the wilds of almost-inside-the-beltway-VA...cloudy and 61

334 Spare O'Lake  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:36:28am

re: #331 Irish Rose

Good morning lizards, it's Friday at last!

Oy, what a week.

Oy-men to that!

335 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:36:29am

Bbiab. Some hours. I promise. Word of Lizard honor.

336 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:40:00am

re: #321 MandyManners

ZING!

I also liked this: “I think some of the members should spend more time trying to build the party on the state level and spend less time trying to micromanage the RNC and trying to tear down Michael Steele,” Daves said.

That being said, the RNC should be keeping a close eye on the State level to weed out the ID/YEC crowd. Otherwise it will just be a waste of time.

337 Irish Rose  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:42:54am

So... I haven't been around much for the last couple of days. Did I miss any meltdowns? Bannings? Troll roasts?

Life is so dull without the daily LGF.

338 Spare O'Lake  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:43:40am

re: #332 MandyManners

I'm gonna' hop into the shower. I spent some time at the salon the other day and have a new 'do and my shower took just seven minutes yesterday. bbiab

Wow. It takes me almost seven minutes just to get wet!
How 'do you do?

339 Bloodnok  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:45:48am

re: #330 MandyManners

You'll never drink anything else.

'Tis good stuff.

340 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:46:47am

re: #336 Bubblehead II

That being said, the RNC should be keeping a close eye on the State level to weed out the ID/YEC crowd. Otherwise it will just be a waste of time.

Aren't the state committees free to determine their own planks?

341 Bloodnok  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:49:45am

re: #337 Irish Rose

So... I haven't been around much for the last couple of days. Did I miss any meltdowns? Bannings? Troll roasts?

Life is so dull without the daily LGF.

The Geert thread yesterday was rife with 'em.

342 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:51:45am

re: #341 Bloodnok
I don't understand why so many people back these racist SOB's.

343 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:52:38am

re: #338 Spare O'Lake

Wow. It takes me almost seven minutes just to get wet!
How 'do you do?

Youtube Video

It's hard to tell where his hair and beard end and his vest begins.

I'm not too sure about this cut--it's the shortest since I was in Kindergarten when I had a pixie cut. It does highlight my cheekbones and neck, though.

The Kid used up ALL of my facial cleanser last night--he wore black grease-paint under his eyes for the ball game. Like I have time to go to the store just to get some more. I could just scream.

344 SixDegrees  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:52:59am

re: #12 Buster Bunny

We are all doomed .. DOOMED I tell you ! If its not the global warming or the guns being shipped in from Mexico, its the Iranians making nukes or the pigs making viruses !

Doomed !

One potential upside: I hope to take advantage of the collapse in pork prices, and turn my freezer into a vista of porky goodness.

Pork shoulder, braised or smoked for hours, is fine, indeed.

345 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:53:11am

re: #339 Bloodnok

'Tis good stuff.

Smoother than a baby's bottom.

346 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:53:24am

re: #333 jcbunga

Fortunately, I am in Va, but further outside the beltway. The stench is overwhelming, like a hog farm.

347 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:56:53am

Yes, I believe they are. Which is why I believe the RNC needs to keep a close eye on the State level.

They need to have a unified message both at the State and National level, other wise everyone will just be wandering around in the wilderness.

This is why the Republicans need a strong leadership who is willing to step on a few toes to get the message back to fiscal responsibility, smaller government and a strong military.

348 Bloodnok  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:57:20am

re: #342 Rustler

I don't understand why so many people back these racist SOB's.

Either fellow racists in training, or just desperate to keep their side's numbers up. Of course in the case Geller it's just wanting to cozy up to someone who is famous.

349 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:58:22am

re: #346 rightside

Fortunately, I am in Va, but further outside the beltway. The stench is overwhelming, like a hog farm.

What's the stench?

350 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:58:45am

Good Morning Lizards!

Interesting commentary on American Thinker today about the neutering of the English language.
Language Ninnies

"The PC police have pulled a Lorena Bobbitt on freshmen, chairmen, and spokesmen, emasculating them and turning them into first-year students, chairs (or chairpersons), and spokespersons.

Funny how manslaughter hasn't changed, though, huh?"

351 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:58:52am

re: #349 MandyManners

It's called congress.

352 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:58:53am

347 was to you Mandy, forgot to hit the reply button.

/need more coffee

353 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 4:59:25am

re: #347 Bubblehead II

Yes, I believe they are. Which is why I believe the RNC needs to keep a close eye on the State level.

They need to have a unified message both at the State and National level, other wise everyone will just be wandering around in the wilderness.

This is why the Republicans need a strong leadership who is willing to step on a few toes to get the message back to fiscal responsibility, smaller government and a strong military.

Wouldn't a heavy hand go against the GOP's fondness for a smaller centralized government?

354 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:00:34am

re: #350 Ford_Prefect

And the emasculation of some men today. Just look at the nyslimes reporter asking FCBBHO what is "enchanting" about being president.

355 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:01:56am

re: #351 rightside

It's called congress.

Last night I talked with a team-mate's mother who useta' work in D.C.. She said the beautiful architecture and landscaping almost out-weighed the hassle of the commute from Maryland.

356 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:02:13am

re: #353 MandyManners

Wouldn't a heavy hand go against the GOP's fondness for a smaller centralized government?

Not when it comes to policing their own organization.

357 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:02:52am

re: #354 rightside

And the emasculation of some men today. Just look at the nyslimes reporter asking FCBBHO what is "enchanting" about being president.

How does FCBBHO keep from sneering at such questions?!

358 Spare O'Lake  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:03:09am

re: #343 MandyManners

Pixie cut...I haven't heard that in a long time.
Makes me think of Scout in To Kill A Mockingbird.

Gotta go aggravate some folks. BBL.

359 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:04:05am

re: #357 MandyManners

How does FCBBHO keep from sneering at such questions?!

I think he welcomes those kinds of questions.
It confirms for him his specialness.

Plus, it keeps the more difficult questions off the table.

360 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:04:11am

re: #356 Bubblehead II

Not when it comes to policing their own organization.

That's what I'm saying, though. How can they keep to the principle of smaller, less-intrusive government if they shove things down their own members' throats?

361 haakondahl  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:04:11am

re: #341 Bloodnok

The Geert thread yesterday was rife with 'em.

That thread was really informative, as well, and I think will be seen as a definitional moment for LGF.

The fact that it was Geert Wilders finally slipping irretrievably (one presumes) beyond the event horizon of fascism, where once had seemed to stand a decent man, really brought the boundary between right wing and right-wing-crazy into sharp relief.

Not that LGF has changed, or that anything got resolved, but there were a lot of people hashing things out, making good points from a number of approaches. I think that last night a lot of people had to establish where exactly the line is.

I predict that this evening brings a remarkable wave of flouncer detonations.

362 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:04:28am

re: #357 MandyManners

He's so narcissistic, he eats that like candy.

363 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:04:31am

re: #358 Spare O'Lake

Pixie cut...I haven't heard that in a long time.
Makes me think of Scout in To Kill A Mockingbird.

Gotta go aggravate some folks. BBL.

I was cuter.

364 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:05:21am

re: #359 reine.de.tout

I think he welcomes those kinds of questions.
It confirms for him his specialness.

Plus, it keeps the more difficult questions off the table.

Oopsie! I momentarily forgot I was talking about a spayshul snowfwake.

365 J.D.  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:05:32am

The Attack On Doctors' Hippocratic Oath

Patients count on their doctor to do whatever is possible to treat their illness. That is the promise doctors make by taking the Hippocratic Oath.

But President Obama's advisers are looking to save money by interfering with that oath and controlling your doctor's decisions.

Ezekiel Emanuel sees the Hippocratic Oath as one factor driving "overuse" of medical care. He is a policy adviser in the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and a brother of Rahm Emanuel, the president's chief of staff.

Dr. Emanuel argues that "peer recognition goes to the most thorough and aggressive physicians." He has lamented that doctors regard the "Hippocratic Oath's admonition to 'use my power to help the patient to the best of my ability and judgment' as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others."

Of course, that is what patients hope their doctor will do.

But President Barack Obama is pledging to rein in the nation's health care spending. The framework for influencing your doctor's decisions was included in the stimulus package, also known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

The legislation sets a goal that every individual's treatments will be recorded by computer, and your doctor will be guided by electronically delivered protocols on "appropriate" and "cost-effective" care.

Heading the new system is Dr. David Blumenthal, a Harvard Medical School professor, named national coordinator of health information technology. His writings show he favors limits on how much health care people can get.

"Government controls are a proven strategy for controlling health care expenditures," he argued in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) in March 2001.

Blumenthal conceded there are disadvantages:

"Longer waits for elective procedures and reduced availability of new and expensive treatments and devices."

Yet he called it "debatable" whether the faster care Americans currently have is worth the higher cost.

Now that Blumenthal is in charge, he sees problems ahead.

"If electronic health records are to save money," he writes, doctors will have to take "advantage of embedded clinical decision support" (a euphemism for computers instructing doctors what to do).

"If requirements are set too high, many physicians and hospitals will rebel - petitioning Congress to change the law or just resigning themselves to ... accepting penalties," he wrote in NEJM early this month.

The public applauded the new requirement for electronic records, not foreseeing that it would put faceless bureaucrats in charge of your care.

McCaughey is a patient advocate and founder of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths. She is also a fellow at the Hudson Institute and a former lieutenant governor of New York State.

366 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:06:23am

re: #362 rightside

He's so narcissistic, he eats that like candy.

Spayshul snowfwake.

367 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:07:06am

Good morning all. So now we get to see who Obama picks for the Supreme Court? Elections have consequences. G-D save us all.

368 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:07:42am

re: #359 reine.de.tout

I think he welcomes those kinds of questions.
It confirms for him his specialness.

Plus, it keeps the more difficult questions off the table.

Exactly right. Any question that allows him to respond and sound deeply intelligent without actually saying anything is an obvious softball for him. Try asking a question that requires a specific answer, however, and you are right-wing racist.

369 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:07:43am

re: #366 MandyManners

I can imagine him actually saying, "enough about you now, let's talk more about myself"

370 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:07:55am

re: #361 haakondahl

That thread was really informative, as well, and I think will be seen as a definitional moment for LGF.

The fact that it was Geert Wilders finally slipping irretrievably (one presumes) beyond the event horizon of fascism, where once had seemed to stand a decent man, really brought the boundary between right wing and right-wing-crazy into sharp relief.

Not that LGF has changed, or that anything got resolved, but there were a lot of people hashing things out, making good points from a number of approaches. I think that last night a lot of people had to establish where exactly the line is.

I predict that this evening brings a remarkable wave of flouncer detonations.

He slipped a while back.

371 yesandno  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:09:24am

Heard yesterday that Jeb Bush, Romney, Barbour, Jindal, and McCain will begin doing town hall meetings under the pulling together of the party.

Found this reference to what I heard here:

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Is this going to be productive?

372 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:09:57am

re: #371 yesandno

Heard yesterday that Jeb Bush, Romney, Barbour, Jindal, and McCain will begin doing town hall meetings under the pulling together of the party.

Found this reference to what I heard here:

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Is this going to be productive?

Yes as long as they lose Jindal.

373 haakondahl  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:10:13am

re: #360 MandyManners

That's what I'm saying, though. How can they keep to the principle of smaller, less-intrusive government if they shove things down their own members' throats?

I think it's similar to how in the military it is said that "We're here to protect democracy, not to practice it", and how the Bill of Rights is not a suicide pact. Lincoln had to destroy the south in order to make them free. It all worked out in the end.

If "Party Central" pushes strict adherence to a limited set of limited government principles, so that the party can stop sucking ass in every run-off and pageant, then I say it conforms to the basic principles of conservatism. I am reminded of a quote from Disraeli, which I can't quite remember, but which he ends with, "Gentlemen, I am a party man."

374 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:10:32am

re: #369 rightside

I can imagine him actually saying, "enough about you now, let's talk more about myself"

Earlier this morning I saw a quote from him to Reid in which the latter praised his speaking skills. According to Reid, FCBBHO told him that he had a "gift". Yeah. Right.

375 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:10:50am

re: #367 Nevergiveup

Morning doc,

one could argue whether Souter's replacement will be more liberal than he is, but bottom line is, he'll vote the same, so no great loss for him, or for ginsburg when she retires soon.

Would I have liked a better shot with someone else? Hell yeah! Do I think McCain would have nominated someone liberal to compromise with the dims? Hell yes! So really, we have no choice.

376 MandyManners  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:11:19am

Gotta' do my face and get The Kid to take his Adderall. That pill is really amazing.

377 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:12:19am

re: #375 rightside

Morning doc,

one could argue whether Souter's replacement will be more liberal than he is, but bottom line is, he'll vote the same, so no great loss for him, or for ginsburg when she retires soon.

Would I have liked a better shot with someone else? Hell yeah! Do I think McCain would have nominated someone liberal to compromise with the dims? Hell yes! So really, we have no choice.

I know this will not really change the voting blocs on the Court, but you can bet the house whoever Obama picks is gonna be a looloo.

378 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:12:28am

re: #374 MandyManners

Yeah, DVD's that won't play in the UK, and a couple model marine helis. LOL

379 shiplord kirel  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:13:07am

re: #276 NYCHardhat

The Right Needs to Play as Dirty as the Left

Amen. As a conservative I pride myself for being above the moonbat looniness. However, the gloves need to come off. If they don't, the Libs will own the country.

From your link:

Why don’t conservatives do opposition research on the journalists endlessly running stories about Bristol Palin and Joe the Plumber? Have they ever been arrested? Whom do they own property with? Have they ever been paid to do a speech for someone and then run a favorable news story about him? Certainly Keith Olbermann’s personal life is just as newsworthy as Joe the Plumber’s, and the details of Maureen Dowd’s life are just as noteworthy as those of Bristol Palin — are they not?

They would certainly be a lot more salacious. This is an excellent idea in every respect. Through habit or timidity or both, the GOP establishment continues to treat the media as an honest broker or at least as a semi-neutral force that could potentially be won over and appeased. Republican strategists, including the allegedly Machiavellian Karl Rove, are at least two generations of thought and insight behind the reality: That the media themselves, and media culture, are the opposition, and the Democratic Party is merely the public front of that opposition.

380 SixDegrees  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:14:18am

re: #280 Rustler

The Mexican health office is only able to test and confirm 65 samples every 6 hours or 260 a day and it looks like testing is primarily for the still living victims of the flu or maybe it's just random and they've only managed to confirm 12 due to the randomness.

Sampling of this kind will inevitably overstate confirmations, because the samples are drawn solely from suspected cases, at least some of which will certainly test positive. It ignores potentially thousands (or many more) cases of people whose symptoms were so mild they never bothered seeing a doctor, or never even knew they were sick.

I'd suggest a return to the avian component of this disease, renaming it the 'Goose Egg Flu.'

381 haakondahl  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:14:41am

re: #370 MandyManners

He slipped a while back.

Sorry, I haven't been tracking some of the former borderline folks as closely as I would like. I knew that at some point in the last two years, he went from probably OK to pretty suspect, and this was the first time that I recall seeing it unequivocally "out there", consequences be damned.
So I'm not defending or papering over whatever I have missed. I'm confessing ignorance instead.

382 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:14:46am

re: #337 Irish Rose

So... I haven't been around much for the last couple of days. Did I miss any meltdowns? Bannings? Troll roasts?

Life is so dull without the daily LGF.

We had a sleeper self destruct after 6 posts yesterday. Not even enough life in that rodent to be an interesting cat toy.

383 johnnyreb  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:16:00am

re: #367 Nevergiveup

Good morning all. So now we get to see who Obama picks for the Supreme Court? Elections have consequences. G-D save us all.

Actually he can't do too much harm with almost anyone he picks to replace Souter. He is the most liberal one of SCOTUS.

384 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:16:01am

re: #377 Nevergiveup

Remember also, that obama, biden, clinton, dodd, et. al., did not want Justice Alito confirmed. You can bet your ass if any republican dissents, they will be excoriated for "blocking progress" and "trying to turn back history."

I know the dems have enough voted regardless, but watch who votes what on our side.

385 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:16:30am

re: #380 SixDegrees
How about the mexacan wrestler flu. More popular than substantive.

386 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:17:26am

re: #367 Nevergiveup

Good morning all. So now we get to see who Obama picks for the Supreme Court? Elections have consequences. G-D save us all.


Well, Souter is a liberal. I wish I could say 'how could it get worse?' but with BHO, you know it can.

387 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:17:30am

re: #383 johnnyreb

Actually he can't do too much harm with almost anyone he picks to replace Souter. He is the most liberal one of SCOTUS.

Well lets see if he picks a "liberal" or a "commie bastard"? I know it is often hard to tell the difference. Is there a difference?

388 Mithrax  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:17:45am

re: #385 DaddyG

How about the mexacan wrestler flu. More popular than substantive.

Yeah, but with all the masking, you'd never know what it was hiding :P

389 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:18:06am

re: #384 rightside

Remember also, that obama, biden, clinton, dodd, et. al., did not want Justice Alito confirmed. You can bet your ass if any republican dissents, they will be excoriated for "blocking progress" and "trying to turn back history."

I know the dems have enough voted regardless, but watch who votes what on our side.

Oh he'll get his way. Lets just hope we can put in the bank for 2010?

390 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:19:02am

re: #389 Nevergiveup

I'm not overly optimistic, but won't discount it either, anything can happen, 3 years, 9 months is a looong time.

391 johnnyreb  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:19:45am

re: #387 Nevergiveup

Well lets see if he picks a "liberal" or a "commie bastard"? I know it is often hard to tell the difference. Is there a difference?


I would love to see them use the same vetting process for SCOTUS as they did for everyone else. Now that would be entertaining!

392 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:20:17am

re: #390 rightside

I'm not overly optimistic, but won't discount it either, anything can happen, 3 years, 9 months is a looong time.

And a lot of bottle of scotch

393 J.D.  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:20:58am

Mr. President: Britain tortured!

...But the president did make one glaring error. He said, when discussing torture, that he'd read an article recently saying how Churchill, at the height of the blitz, said of Great Britain "we don't torture."

He may well have read such an article, and Churchill may well have made such a statement. But Britain did torture. Says who? Says the Guardian. I refer you, friends, to The Cage.

The other day I was sitting in the Washington office and my Guardian colleague Chris McGreal came up to me to talk about the subject of torture and the debate over its effectiveness. Chris pointed out to me that in Kensington during the second war, there was a facility known as The Cage inside which Nazi prisoners -- chiefly U-boat captains, but others -- were routinely tortured.

Then our colleague Richard Adams piped up to say that the Guardian had done a big piece on it a few years back. Indeed it had. Ian Cobain wrote it in 2005. And here it is. You really must read it, it's terrific stuff.

It was on one of the poshest streets in all of London, then and now; it was run by MI19, and specifically by a fellow called Alexander Scotland; it was of course a closely guarded secret; and -- most shockingly -- it operated until two or three years after the war ended, still mistreating captive Germans.

Cobain's article goes into all of this in great detail. One thing it doesn't dwell on much is the question Chris and I were discussing, of effectiveness. If any of you know more about that, or about any aspect of The Cage, please share with the rest of us. This was I confess the first I'd heard of it.

So the White House may have to walk that one back a bit, depending how much the American press cares about what England did 60 years ago.


I imagine the White House is laying awake worrying about it.

394 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:21:58am

re: #365 J.D. I was under the Impression hte Hippocratic oath went out the door in the 70's?

395 yesandno  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:22:02am

re: #374 MandyManners

Earlier this morning I saw a quote from him to Reid in which the latter praised his speaking skills. According to Reid, FCBBHO told him that he had a "gift". Yeah. Right.

Speaking of the gift. At the press conference the other night, I believe TOTUS was playing with him. In his introduction, it seemed that he started to slow down waiting for TOTUS to catch up and then all of a sudden he was speaking as fast as a used car salesman . After a bit, it slowed to a more natural speaking rthym. Was I just hearing things, of did that actually happen?

Have to laught at TOTUS. If his stall ran out of TP, I wonder if he could request more without prompting...

He is like the news readers...

396 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:22:22am

re: #393 J.D.

The truth is on holiday till 2012 it appears?

397 J.D.  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:23:17am

re: #394 Rustler

I was under the Impression hte Hippocratic oath went out the door in the 70's?

No.
I wonder what gave you that idea?

398 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:25:33am

re: #394 Rustler

In the 1970s, many American medical schools chose to abandon the Hippocratic Oath as part of graduation ceremonies, usually substituting a version modified to something considered more politically and medically up to date, or an alternate pledge like the Oath or Prayer of Maimonides.

From Wiki.

399 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:25:50am

Here's a question for the Lizards:

Generally speaking, the GOP has voted to approve liberal SCOTUS nominees, based on their ability to be a fair jurist, not on whether they agree with their positions. By contrast, the dems almost always vote against, usually based on the abortion litmus, but usually never by whether the person can actually judge.

The Senates role in confirmations is advise and consent, IIRC.

So, my question is, should the GOP start applying the same methods as the dems have? Or should they "take the high ground"?

400 freetoken  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:26:02am

re: #371 yesandno

Heard yesterday that Jeb Bush, Romney, Barbour, Jindal, and McCain will begin doing town hall meetings under the pulling together of the party.

Isn't Rush Limbaugh on the radio trying to get rid of McCain out of the Republican party?

401 SixDegrees  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:26:17am

I see the White House issued an apology of sorts for Joe Biden's stupid remarks about staying out of confined spaces. They offered a terse correction, and no further comment.

Sounds like they're setting the stage already for L'il Joe's departure from the ticket next time around.

402 J.D.  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:26:19am

re: #396 Nevergiveup

The truth is on holiday till 2012 it appears?

Can't you just be captivated by the delivery of Obama's speeches?

Get with the program.

/

403 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:26:22am

re: #360 MandyManners

That's what I'm saying, though. How can they keep to the principle of smaller, less-intrusive government if they shove things down their own members' throats?

An interesting question. Let me try it this way. The GOP is not a government. It is a political organization consisting of local and State offices, with the RNC as the Head office.

The local and State levels have (as they must) a certain amount of autonomy to tailor their message for their State/District just as the outlets of any corporation must have in order to sell their product. But, like any large corporation, the head office, in this case, the RNC must control the main message.

If a State level office drifts away from the main message, it must be brought back in line with the main message or that message becomes muddied and confused.

This is what I think has really happened to the GOP. The RNC has let the State level offices dictate to them what the (many) message will be instead of the other way around.

/ Then again, I could be full of shit. %-)

404 yesandno  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:26:58am

re: #386 VioletTiger

Well, Souter is a liberal. I wish I could say 'how could it get worse?' but with BHO, you know it can.

How does KOH sound?...he is having his confirmation right now to become one of the State Depts. lead lawyers.

...it can get worse and it most definately will. Our law will become subject to the annunciations of the 'human rights' of such places as Syria. Bad, very, very bad.

405 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:27:57am

Of the possible candidates for SCOTUS I would like to see Georgia Chief Justice Leah Ward Sears considered. She comes from a military family, has a distinguished career and has served very honorably as a Georgia State Justice and Chief Justice after her appointment by then Governor Zell Miller.

Her bio: http://www.gasupreme.us/justices_bios.php

On the one occasion I had to meet her I found her to be gracious and truly interested in the welfare of her fellow Georgians. She is not overtly political which I feel is a good thing for a judge regarless of their leanings.

Let's hope President Obama chooses to appoint someone based on merit rather than pure ideology.

406 SixDegrees  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:28:24am

re: #400 freetoken

Isn't Rush Limbaugh on the radio trying to get rid of McCain out of the Republican party?

Yes; this seems to be Rush's latest goal - draining the Republican Party of membership. Great strategy.

407 abolitionist  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:28:34am

Venezuela, Iran Agree to Strengthen Military Ties

Iranian Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar met with Chavez for an hour late Wednesday and said they discussed defense cooperation to "protect peace and tranquility in the region," Venezuela's Information Ministry said in a statement.

"There's a strategic alliance between Venezuela and Iran," Najjar was quoted as saying. "There's a great deal of economic and industrial cooperation, and we started cooperating in the area of defense five years ago."

UAE Torture Video May Derail U.S. Nuclear Deal
Excerpts:

The fallout from the film — which was smuggled out of the UAE by a former business associate of the sheikh — has reached all the way to the Oval Office, where the civilian nuclear deal, awaiting the signature of President Obama, remains unsigned. A senior US official has said that the Administration is holding off certifying the treaty as a direct result of the film.

The deal was sealed on January 15 during President Bush’s last week in office, but needs to be recertified by the new Administration. Under its terms, the U.S. agrees to provide technology and equipment to help the UAE to develop civilian nuclear power plants. In return, the UAE pledges to abide by the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty and not to reprocess its spent nuclear fuel.

'Top Gun' Star Kelly McGillis Confirms Lesbian Rumors
Ahhh, so maybe Top Gun wasn't such a great choice for that hot date.

408 johnnyreb  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:28:57am

re: #399 rightside

Here's a question for the Lizards:

Generally speaking, the GOP has voted to approve liberal SCOTUS nominees, based on their ability to be a fair jurist, not on whether they agree with their positions. By contrast, the dems almost always vote against, usually based on the abortion litmus, but usually never by whether the person can actually judge.

The Senates role in confirmations is advise and consent, IIRC.

So, my question is, should the GOP start applying the same methods as the dems have? Or should they "take the high ground"?

IMO there should be only one test of any potential SCOTUS. Does he/she have a record consistent with upholding the constitution. Any nonsense such as legislating from the bench should be an automatic dis-qualifier.

409 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:29:48am

re: #399 rightside

Here's a question for the Lizards:

Generally speaking, the GOP has voted to approve liberal SCOTUS nominees, based on their ability to be a fair jurist, not on whether they agree with their positions. By contrast, the dems almost always vote against, usually based on the abortion litmus, but usually never by whether the person can actually judge.

The Senates role in confirmations is advise and consent, IIRC.

So, my question is, should the GOP start applying the same methods as the dems have? Or should they "take the high ground"?

Generally I would say take the high ground unless the nominee is just crazy wacko left. For one, at least until 2010, they can probably force thru almost anyone unless he/she is into child porn. For the next 1 1/2 we are gonna have to carefully pick our fights.

410 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:30:00am

re: #373 haakondahl

I think you stated that better than I, in my befuddled way did. Up Ding!

411 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:30:40am

re: #399 rightside

Here's a question for the Lizards:

Generally speaking, the GOP has voted to approve liberal SCOTUS nominees, based on their ability to be a fair jurist, not on whether they agree with their positions. By contrast, the dems almost always vote against, usually based on the abortion litmus, but usually never by whether the person can actually judge.

The Senates role in confirmations is advise and consent, IIRC.

So, my question is, should the GOP start applying the same methods as the dems have? Or should they "take the high ground"?

I would hope that they pick their battles and save the heel-digging for the truly bad ones.

412 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:30:49am

re: #405 DaddyG

Of the possible candidates for SCOTUS I would like to see Georgia Chief Justice Leah Ward Sears considered. She comes from a military family, has a distinguished career and has served very honorably as a Georgia State Justice and Chief Justice after her appointment by then Governor Zell Miller.

Her bio: http://www.gasupreme.us/justices_bios.php

On the one occasion I had to meet her I found her to be gracious and truly interested in the welfare of her fellow Georgians. She is not overtly political which I feel is a good thing for a judge regarless of their leanings.

Let's hope President Obama chooses to appoint someone based on merit rather than pure ideology.

Fat chance

413 yesandno  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:30:52am

re: #405 DaddyG

Of the possible candidates for SCOTUS I would like to see Georgia Chief Justice Leah Ward Sears considered. She comes from a military family, has a distinguished career and has served very honorably as a Georgia State Justice and Chief Justice after her appointment by then Governor Zell Miller.

Her bio: http://www.gasupreme.us/justices_bios.php

On the one occasion I had to meet her I found her to be gracious and truly interested in the welfare of her fellow Georgians. She is not overtly political which I feel is a good thing for a judge regarless of their leanings.
Let's hope President Obama chooses to appoint someone based on merit rather than pure ideology.

That is what they call a deal breaker...there is something political behind everything the Dems do.

414 yochanan  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:33:11am

the VPTOTUS just has a wicked sence of humor just look at hoof in mouth joe.

415 freetoken  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:33:19am

re: #399 rightside

By contrast, the dems almost always vote against, usually based on the abortion litmus, but usually never by whether the person can actually judge.

Judge Roberts made it out of commitee on a 13 -5 vote, and full approval by the Senate with a 78-22 vote. He picked up exactly half the Democrats voting.

Scalia supposedly was passed 98-0.

416 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:33:27am

Morning all.
Anyone watch the latest amazing C's-Bulls game? Great series. Go C's.

417 J.D.  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:33:57am
...Could we not, as the president repeatedly asserted in his Wednesday news conference, have obtained the information by less morally poisonous means? Perhaps if we'd spoken softly and sincerely to Khalid Sheik Mohammed, we could equally have obtained "high-value information."

There are two problems with the "good cop" technique. KSM, the mastermind of 9/11 who knew more about more plots than anyone else, did not seem very inclined to respond to polite inquiries about future plans. The man who boasted of personally beheading Daniel Pearl with a butcher knife answered questions about plots with "soon you will know" -- meaning, when you count the bodies in the morgue and find horribly disfigured burn victims in hospitals, you will know then what we are planning now. ...


Torture? No. Except . . .
By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, May 1, 2009

418 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:34:42am

re: #414 yochanan

the VPTOTUS just has a wicked sence of humor just look at hoof in mouth joe.

Can you imagine the scurrying around like ants they had to do after that gaff? Did you see that geek Gibbs trying to say 'what he meant to say..." Even the press was laughing at him.

419 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:35:40am

re: #412 Nevergiveup

Fat chance

I fear you may be right. Expecially since she is a Zell Miller appointee.

420 johnnyreb  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:36:44am

re: #418 VioletTiger

Can you imagine the scurrying around like ants they had to do after that gaff? Did you see that geek Gibbs trying to say 'what he meant to say..." Even the press was laughing at him.

In any other administration, Gibbs would have been fired by now. That BS about 100 million being a huge number and 8 billion tiny and now this crap. He is truly am embarrassment to Obama IMO, and the laughing stock of DC.

421 rain of lead  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:37:27am

things that make you go hmmm...
could specter defection haunt dems on SC nomination

422 freetoken  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:38:02am

Regarding Republican USSC nominations... Thomas picked up only a handful of votes. There were also a couple of cases of significant blow-ups in the Senate... Bork of course, and then the Miers affair.

423 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:38:31am

re: #409 Nevergiveup

IIRC ginsburg, while an aclu lawyer, wanted the age of consent lowered to 13 for the country. But that could be BS, I re: #415 freetoken

96-3 for ginsburg, in 93, just before the republican juggernaut ran roughshod over congress!

424 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:39:16am

re: #420 johnnyreb

In any other administration, Gibbs would have been fired by now. That BS about 100 million being a huge number and 8 billion tiny and now this crap. He is truly am embarrassment to Obama IMO, and the laughing stock of DC.

Give Gibbs some credit. He is the one who has the job of convincing everyone that there may be a pony under the giant pile of horse crap generated by the White House every day. It can't be easy being the Obama apologist.

425 freetoken  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:39:28am

re: #422 freetoken

That should have been Alito who picked up a handful of Democrat votes. Thomas' vote was much more heatedly partisan.

426 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:39:54am

re: #420 johnnyreb

That "what he meant to say" line should be the last straw. If you're gonna deny reality and insert the Party line in it's place, you don't do it so clumsily. Gibbs should've paid more attention to how his boss gets it done.

427 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:40:28am

re: #421 rain of lead

things that make you go hmmm...
could specter defection haunt dems on SC nomination

Interesting. Doubtful, but if he did screw the democrats on his first important vote as a Dem, well that would be sweet, wouldn't it?

428 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:40:31am

Thanks for your opinions, Lizards.

429 rain of lead  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:41:05am

re: #427 Nevergiveup

one can only hope

430 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:41:29am

re: #424 DaddyG

Give Gibbs some credit. He is the one who has the job of convincing everyone that there may be a pony under the giant pile of horse crap generated by the White House every day. It can't be easy being the Obama apologist.

Yeah, but didn't he say something like 'it's the funnest job I ever had!'.
He's such a dork, I don't think anything can embarrass him.

431 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:42:36am

re: #424 DaddyG
Forgot to put one of these / up on my last post.

Seriously Gibbs is a goofball but so are the rest of the amateur politicians in the Executive branch. It shows from the Queens Ipod to the Air Force One flyover of Manhattan.

432 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:43:07am

re: #406 SixDegrees McCain, Snowe, and Collins can all pull a Spectre and leave the party it's not like they are doing anyhting for us and Snowe and collins are actively siding with dems so it's not like he's asking us to boot those like Jindal who are still good conservatives but just need to temper their religious agendas.

433 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:43:33am

re: #428 rightside

Thanks for your opinions, Lizards.

You are welcome. Opinions are the one thing I can share all day without breaking a sweat! ;-)

434 J.D.  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:43:53am
...In his memoir, former CIA Director George Tenet recalls that "In his initial interrogation by CIA officers, [9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed] was defiant. 'I'll talk to you guys,' he said, 'after I get to New York and see my lawyer.'" Mr. Obama must be under the impression that the CIA used waterboarding as a first resort.

The President also cited Winston Churchill, who, he said, refused to torture German detainees even when "London was being bombed to smithereens." But Churchill did authorize the firebombing of Hamburg and other cities, the human toll of which numbered in the hundreds of thousands. Does Mr. Obama consider that a more ethical approach to our enemies?

Still, the President's reference to Britain was unwittingly instructive, since the British treatment of IRA detainees during the "troubles" of Northern Ireland was one of the benchmarks the Bush Administration used in distinguishing between harsh treatment and actual torture. A 1978 ruling by the European Court of Human Rights found that "stress positions," "hooding," and sleep deprivation did not, in fact, constitute torture.

President Obama was then asked whether he had read the memos recently mentioned by former Vice President Dick Cheney as evidence of the effectiveness of enhanced interrogations. Yes he had, he said, immediately adding that "they haven't been officially declassified and released, and so I don't want to go into the details of them." The fact that he didn't rebut Mr. Cheney's point about what the interrogations yielded suggests that the memos would prove the former Veep's point. Mr. Obama should release all the memos and let Americans judge for themselves -- though perhaps that's precisely why he won't release them...


A Tortured Rationale
The President suggests Cheney is right.

435 pingjockey  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:44:04am

Mornin' all. fro, a sunny(!), sun isn't up yet North Central WA state. So what rat bastard commie will the one appoint to replace souter? Plus Ginsberg and one other may retire. So the one may get 3 nominees.

436 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:46:11am

re: #435 pingjockey

Mornin' all. fro, a sunny(!), sun isn't up yet North Central WA state. So what rat bastard commie will the one appoint to replace souter? Plus Ginsberg and one other may retire. So the one may get 3 nominees.

See my 405 and the following responses.

437 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:46:24am

There is no spoon.

438 johnnyreb  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:46:34am

re: #435 pingjockey

Mornin' all. fro, a sunny(!), sun isn't up yet North Central WA state. So what rat bastard commie will the one appoint to replace souter? Plus Ginsberg and one other may retire. So the one may get 3 nominees.

I am not worried. The potential ones are the most liberal of the whole bunch. He can't do too much damage. However, I am glad the 2nd amendment case was already ruled on.

439 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:47:51am

re: #417 J.D.

Torture? No. Except . . .
By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, May 1, 2009

Krauthammer is so level-headed. It is a shame he can't pass it on to those in power.
What our knuckle-headed government fails to understand is that it is easy to make this kind of decision when the pressure is off. But what happens when hundreds or thousands of lives are on the brink? They fail to think beyond the minute or imagine the worse case scenario. I'll bet that if it were their loved ones in jeopardy, they'd change their minds really fast.

440 pingjockey  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:48:49am

re: #438 johnnyreb
That is a plus. I expect the feds to raise taxes on ammo and reloading supplis to astronimal levels.

441 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:49:02am

re: #435 pingjockey

"So what rat bastard commie will the one appoint to replace souter?"

It's questions like that one that make me envy my friends with absolutely no clue about politics, The SC, etc.
I have a feeling that we're gonna see a parade of clowns, and it wouldn't surprise me if his first pick or two don't even make it to the confirmation process before some disqualifying fact/opinion is exposed.

442 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:49:25am

What is happening here at LGF?

Justice Souter stepping down and no thread on it last night?

Closet Liberal will be replacd by Socialist... Ho hum... As The World Turns...

443 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:50:03am

re: #441 Lincolntf

"So what rat bastard commie will the one appoint to replace souter?"

It's questions like that one that make me envy my friends with absolutely no clue about politics, The SC, etc.
I have a feeling that we're gonna see a parade of clowns, and it wouldn't surprise me if his first pick or two don't even make it to the confirmation process before some disqualifying fact/opinion is exposed.

Sonya Sotomayor... Hispanic woman... Perfectly PC...

444 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:50:37am

re: #441 Lincolntf
At least with Souter the tho the worst that can happen is a lib is replaced with Ayers.(do to his extensive legal experience)

445 pingjockey  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:50:39am

re: #441 Lincolntf
I don't know what would disqualify these people. The head of the Treasury didn't pay taxes!

446 pingjockey  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:51:42am

Luap Nor! For SCOTUS! ///

447 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:51:48am

re: #442 tfc3rid


Santana looked good the other day. Hum, an arm is a terrible thing to waste?

448 J.D.  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:53:08am

re: #439 VioletTiger

They fail to think beyond the minute or imagine the worse case scenario.


These days, way too many of them seem to think no further than their next election.

449 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:53:21am

re: #447 Nevergiveup

Santana looked good the other day. Hum, an arm is a terrible thing to waste?

This team is annoying the spit out of me... The siesta squad are not a bunch of gamers and David 'Whispers' Wright is lost...

450 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:54:56am

re: #449 tfc3rid

This team is annoying the spit out of me... The siesta squad are not a bunch of gamers and David 'Whispers' Wright is lost...

Well look in the bright side. I'd still rather have Wright on my team rather than A-Rod.

451 haakondahl  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:55:12am

re: #442 tfc3rid

What is happening here at LGF?

Justice Souter stepping down and no thread on it last night?

Closet Liberal will be replacd by Socialist... Ho hum... As The World Turns...

Hard to keep tabs on City Hall when you have insurgents shelling you from your own garage.

452 SixDegrees  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:55:27am

re: #435 pingjockey

Mornin' all. fro, a sunny(!), sun isn't up yet North Central WA state. So what rat bastard commie will the one appoint to replace souter? Plus Ginsberg and one other may retire. So the one may get 3 nominees.

Ginsburg is certainly going to retire shortly. No one doubts it.

It's the President's prerogative to appoint Supreme Court justices. There's nothing that can be done about it, short of opposing those appointments. Knee-jerk opposition simply because they are made by Obama, and for no other reason, however, will be extraordinarily counterproductive. "Oh, there go those crazy Republicans again! The Party of 'No'." Opposition can only be effective if it is based on the nominee's merits and abilities - a Juliet Meyer's style appointment will sink like a stone under the weight of public opinion, if such a startling lack of qualifications is brought to the public's attention. Or an appallingly bad judicial record. But this is where opposition has to be based. Simply squalling about the appointer being a CommiePinkoSocialist isn't going to get us anywhere.

Let's wait and see who, specifically, gets the nomination, and what their background looks like.

453 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:55:57am

re: #450 Nevergiveup

Well look in the bright side. I'd still rather have Wright on my team rather than A-Rod.

I'd actually rather have A-Rod than D-Rod...

454 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:56:48am

re: #437 SasquatchOnSteroids

There is no spoon.


Spooon!

455 Rustler  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:57:06am

re: #452 SixDegrees
With Pancreatic cancer yes she Isn't long for the courts the other potential justice leaving is Stevens? If so may not be to bad with all 3 leaving justices more on the lib side.

456 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:57:06am

re: #448 J.D.

These days, way too many of them seem to think no further than their next election bribe fund raiser.

FTFY

457 haakondahl  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:57:11am

re: #453 tfc3rid

I'd actually rather have A-Rod than D-Rod...

Or H-Rod...

458 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:57:22am

re: #453 tfc3rid

I'd actually rather have A-Rod than D-Rod...

Well you call your people and I'll call mine and maybe...?

459 J.D.  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:58:18am
...It shouldn't surprise Specter that his new allies in the Democratic party don't think of him as a "real" Democrat. Why should they? He's a Democrat of necessity, and everyone knows it. And even though there's word that Senate Democratic leaders have assured Specter he won't face a challenge from within his new party next year, there's really no way they can guarantee that another Pennsylvania Democrat won't make the run. If you were a true-blue party loyalist in Philadelphia, would you want Specter as your candidate, or a "real" Democrat?

"If Ed Rendell ran against Specter, he would mop the floor with him," the strategist told me. "If [Philadelphia Mayor Michael] Nutter ran against him, he would mop the floor with him." A number of other Democrats might also prevail against Specter in a party primary. Who can say for sure they won't try?...


...the newest Democrat, Arlen Specter, better keep his new colleagues happy. After all, his future is in their hands.


Senator Specter, meet your new friends

460 pingjockey  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:58:24am

re: #452 SixDegrees
I'm not on the House /Senate Justice committee, so I can rant if I want.
It doesn't matter if we prove they're unqualified, the donks have enough votes to pass them anyway. Look at how many tax cheats the one has appointed and got confirmed!

461 SixDegrees  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:59:07am

re: #442 tfc3rid

What is happening here at LGF?

Justice Souter stepping down and no thread on it last night?

Closet Liberal will be replacd by Socialist... Ho hum... As The World Turns...

There isn't anything to discuss until an actual nominee is put forward.

Ginsburg is next, by the way. She's been telegraphing her own retirement for several years now. That hasn't gotten a thread of it's own, either. After all, it isn't the Justice who's leaving that matters. It's their replacement.

462 pingjockey  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:59:53am

re: #461 SixDegrees
That is very true.

463 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 5:59:54am

Or better yet...

Spooon!

464 freetoken  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:00:00am

re: #452 SixDegrees


Let's wait and see who, specifically, gets the nomination, and what their background looks like.

If President Obama picks someone who is a legal scholar, well published and respected in the law community, it would be difficult for me to want to oppose them.

It might be cheesy... but as the Souter example showed, SC nominees are like a box of chocolate...

465 johnnyreb  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:00:31am

re: #459 J.D.

Wow he just turned and they are already hinting that he might be replaced in the next election by a "real" democrat.

466 haakondahl  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:00:55am

re: #464 freetoken

If President Obama picks someone who is a legal scholar, well published and respected in the law community, it would be difficult for me to want to oppose them.

It might be cheesy... but as the Souter example showed, SC nominees are like a box of chocolate...

...filled with manure.

467 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:01:13am

Good morning.

Look for the market to open on the upside today.

The Chrysler bankruptcy took some steam out of things yesterday. It turns out that Chrysler was very close to a deal, Everyone was ready to take a 40% hair cut to make it work. Then but Obama's folks then wanted the primary creditors who had not taken any TARP to take a 70% hair cut so the TARP banks would not have to take a 40% hit, and that they would not do.


So, no deal.

468 pingjockey  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:01:39am

re: #464 freetoken
I would like, but not going to get, Justices who don't find 'rights' that aren't in the constituition.

469 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:01:47am

-scrolling-

HOLD
HAND
HIGH,
LOOK
AUTHORITATIVE

-end scroll-

470 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:02:12am

re: #467 3 wood Capitalism is sooo unpatriotic. //

471 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:02:26am

re: #452 SixDegrees

One problem with what you said, I believe. Public opinion will be shaped by the drive bys. There is no way in hell, that they would ever say anything bad about anyone obama nominates period. They'll tout this individual as being a 'centrist jurist' who understands the nuances of modern law, and in concert with the direction the country is taking. They'll also be praised for having the ability to undo the damage done by evil Bushco.

As I said in an earlier post, the GOP generally chooses to nominate a liberal to SCOTUS based on their ability to apply the constitution, not on that persons views. The dems, are quite the opposite. How many times does Lucy have to pull the football away at the last second for Charlie Brown, before he quits trying to kick it?

472 pingjockey  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:02:38am

Later folks, off to work.

473 SixDegrees  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:03:20am

re: #455 Rustler

With Pancreatic cancer yes she Isn't long for the courts the other potential justice leaving is Stevens? If so may not be to bad with all 3 leaving justices more on the lib side.

I don't see much in the way of startling change. Those who have been hoping for a Supreme Court ban on abortion will likely be upset, but that's a delusional hope anyway.

It's entirely possible that we'll wind up with more Centrist picks. We'll have to wait and see whose names get tossed in the hat.

It will be interesting, too, because the long-lasting nature of such selections will reveal once and for all what Obama's actual leanings are. There is no action the President can take that is more ideologically illuminating that a Supreme Court nomination.

474 J.D.  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:03:25am

re: #465 johnnyreb

How do they know that since he switched once, he won't switch twice? He can't be trusted.
I think Phil Gramm quit and ran again when he switched... didn't he?

475 freetoken  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:03:40am

re: #468 pingjockey

Probably not going to happen.

476 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:04:42am

re: #457 haakondahl

Or H-Rod...

H-Rod?

477 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:04:56am

re: #473 SixDegrees
I remember 101 days ago when the pubdits discussing how Obama could end up governing from the center. Those hopes were dashed pretty quickly. I'm hopeful but ready to be very disappointed.

478 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:05:39am

re: #458 Nevergiveup

Well you call your people and I'll call mine and maybe...?

Mets have no chemistry... They have a ton of talent... They just don't collaborate... There is a clear segregation in the clubhouse... It shows on the field...

479 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:05:48am

re: #452 SixDegrees

I am certainly not advocating trying to block a nominee, just to block one, to be clear.

480 haakondahl  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:05:59am

re: #465 johnnyreb

Wow he just turned and they are already hinting that he might be replaced in the next election by a "real" democrat.

Gollum will soon discover what Sauron had in mind for him.

"Welcome to the Innermost pits of Hell. Let me explain to you the Flaming-Lidless-Eye to untrustworthy-lackey relationship..."

He thinks he has just triumphed--instead, he has made himself a marked man, by defecting with nothing more to offer, and nothing more to gain. He's roadkill on the Senate floor ("aislekill?").

481 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:06:00am

re: #461 SixDegrees

Be so kind as to inform us when discussion is allowed, would you?

For those not bound by Six's proscription:
I assume we'll have a "short list" of a dozen or so possibilities on all the news sites in just a few hours (if they're not already up). I'm crossing my fingers for nobody from MA. Oh, and nobody from the 9th Circuit, either.
I assume the litmus tests will include Abortion, but what else? Illegal immigration, "tortutre", wiretapping?

482 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:06:24am

Any Israeli lizards or just someone with knowledge of their citizenship laws? There's an idiot who is claiming the Israel is a racist state by definition because they only allow citizenship to people based on race. Due to the reason they were formed, I guess I would understand that, and therefore it would be technically true, but racist state implies apartheid, intolerance and other things that Israel is not.

483 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:06:34am

re: #474 J.D.

Yes, Phil Gramm resigned his seat, then ran again as a repub and won. He did it the correct way.

484 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:06:35am

Credit continues to thaw.

Dollar Libor Drops to Within Basis Point of 1 Percent

May 1 (Bloomberg) -- The London interbank offered rate that financial companies charge each other for three-month dollar loans fell to within a basis point of 1 percent as central banks and governments unlock credit markets.

Libor declined one basis point to 1.01 percent today, according to the British Bankers’ Association. The Libor-OIS spread, a gauge of banks’ reluctance to lend, narrowed to 81 basis points, the lowest level since Sept. 4. Libor hasn’t been at 1 percent since June 2003. Citigroup Inc. submitted the lowest rate, at 0.96 percent, while UBS AG and Bank of Tokyo- Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd. quoted the highest, at 1.05 percent.

“Liquidity and confidence is returning to the wholesale markets,” John Ewan, a London-based director of the BBA, said by e-mail. “The very low base rates and target rates being set by central banks worldwide lead to Libor fixings that are, in absolute terms, the lowest we have ever seen.”

This improvement has nothing to do with anything that the White House has done.

485 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:07:23am

re: #467 3 wood

I say good for the hedge funds... They are trying to further prevent the ship of marxism/statism to take over...

They still want to make good for their investors... We are not all commies yet...

486 johnnyreb  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:07:35am

re: #474 J.D.

How do they know that since he switched once, he won't switch twice? He can't be trusted.
I think Phil Gramm quit and ran again when he switched... didn't he?

He can switch back to Repub or do a Lieberman and run as an independent if he wants, but he wont get any RNC support and he will get his butt kicked in the primaries any way he goes. He was on the way out as a Repub in PA anyway as Toomey was way in the lead in the polls.

487 SixDegrees  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:09:21am

re: #471 rightside

One problem with what you said, I believe. Public opinion will be shaped by the drive bys. There is no way in hell, that they would ever say anything bad about anyone obama nominates period. They'll tout this individual as being a 'centrist jurist' who understands the nuances of modern law, and in concert with the direction the country is taking. They'll also be praised for having the ability to undo the damage done by evil Bushco.

As I said in an earlier post, the GOP generally chooses to nominate a liberal to SCOTUS based on their ability to apply the constitution, not on that persons views. The dems, are quite the opposite. How many times does Lucy have to pull the football away at the last second for Charlie Brown, before he quits trying to kick it?

It is certainly incumbent on the GOP to marshall any unpleasant facts about a nominee and bring them to light. No one else is going to do it.

They need to be hard facts, however. Serious judicial screw-ups; an inconsistent history indicating a shallow legal intellect; or just maybe something involving the nominee and barnyard animals, if there's enough evidence to back it up.

488 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:10:11am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Got a mixed bag of weather today in the valley but it's going to be a beeYOOOtiful weekend. Just perfect for mucking about in the courtyard digging in the dirt, sipping a cool bevvie from time to time. :D

ping - How did your interview go yesterday?

489 SixDegrees  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:10:34am

re: #477 DaddyG

I remember 101 days ago when the pubdits discussing how Obama could end up governing from the center. Those hopes were dashed pretty quickly. I'm hopeful but ready to be very disappointed.

Being more Centrist than Souter or Ginsburg isn't exactly a charge toward the right. We'll just have to wait and see who gets the nod.

490 Mr Spiffy  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:10:52am

re: #10 Cattt

It's as if the press is running around chasing everyone with a head cold. According to the doctor quoted in that piece, ""We're seeing epidemic spread of a non-serious illness."

Meanwhile, Egypt is busy shooting all the swine in the country.

I don't mean to sound snooty, but people are sooo schtupid.

not at all like ... cattts
lol
/

491 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:11:50am

re: #489 SixDegrees

Being more Centrist than Souter or Ginsburg isn't exactly a charge toward the right. We'll just have to wait and see who gets the nod.

Come on... If you believe that the President will appoint someone other than a dyed in the wool pseudo-Marxist, Internationalist, you are insane.

492 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:12:05am

re: #487 SixDegrees

You're right in theory, but the Bork (and Thomas, in a way) hearing shows that theory doesn't always carry the day.

493 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:13:01am

Are colleges next on the bail out parade?
Colleges Flunk Economics Test as Harvard Model Destroys Budgets

May 1 (Bloomberg) -- On a Thursday morning in March, the $32 million School of Management building at Simmons College in Boston is all but deserted. Three students lounge in armchairs facing floor-to-ceiling windows that look over the quad with its winding walkways and greening lawn; another makes photocopies.

“This building is always empty,” says Raya Alazzouni, a sophomore from Saudi Arabia who’s studying graphic design and taking courses in the management school.

Simmons, home to 4,700 students, opened the 66,500-square- foot (6,200-

square-meter) center in January, two months before the U.S. stock market hit its lowest point in 12 years. Even before the ribbon cutting, enrollment in the management school had been dropping.

Now, the vacant halls are reminders of the new math confounding U.S. colleges. Students, pummeled by scarce loans and savings plans that have fallen as much as 40 percent, are heading for less expensive schools. The perks designed to lure them during boom times -- from hot tubs to dorm-suite kitchenettes, to in-room cable TV -- are crushing universities with debt. Even projects like Simmons’s “green” management building, with its rain-absorbing roof patio and toilets with two flushing modes, can turn into burdens as schools struggle with rising expenses, plummeting endowments and needier applicants.

I am completely unsurprised. One of the most wasteful operations you will ever see is a university/college. I know Professors who think teaching 2 classes a term is asking a lot of them.

494 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:13:06am

It's doesn't matter who Obama picks for the U.S. Supreme Court. That person will be eviscerated by conservative advocacy groups. The confirmation process, which formerly was somewhat civil, has been a blood sport since the Bork confirmation process.

Under Jack Kennedy, the Democrats approached the GOP with a deal: the President was entitled to a nominee of his political persuasion, so partisan acrimony would be set aside in the nomination process by both parties. The opposing party would give deference to the President's selection.

With the Bork nomination, Democrats broke the pact, and embarked on shrill demonization of Bork. They successfully destroyed his character in public. Since then, the gloves have been off in the confirmation process. Obama will get his nominee confirmed, but only after severe damage has been inflicted on the nominee.

495 KenJen  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:13:49am

re: #481 Lincolntf

Does it have to be someone from the U.S.? It would not surprise me if Obama chose someone from Europe. He would if he could.

496 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:13:53am

Forget all of this political sideshow bullshit. We've got REAL stories to cover...

Now casting: ‘Octomom: The Musical’


The title role is still open.

Most important, he adds, “we want someone who is not going to prejudge the Octomom. We intend to portray her as an American patriot who’s doing her best to stimulate the economy the only way she knows how.

BWWWAAAHHHAAAHHHAAA
Is this dude related to Joe Biden ?
Good grief...

497 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:14:23am

re: #489 SixDegrees

I don't think many people are hoping for someone right-leaning person to be nominated by obama.

I would like a republican on the judiciary committee to ask this nominee, if congress were to pass a law allowing gay marriage, and others sued on the basis of constitutionality, if they thought it was constitutional, and where in the document that supports it.

498 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:14:43am

re: #467 3 wood

As I suspected, Obama's negotiating team was discriminating against one group of unsecured creditors in favor of the labor union creditors.

That'll build the business community's confidence in the "integrity" of this administration!

499 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:16:08am

re: #493 3 wood

Student loans, tuition, and higher education, are the next big bubble to pop.

500 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:17:20am

re: #499 quickjustice

Student loans, tuition, and higher education, are the next big bubble to pop.

THAT will be very, very bad... Although I will take credit cards for $1,000 Alex...

Responsible spending will save you from debt in the end. I had $34K in CC debt in December. I am now down to $7K.

501 Zimriel  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:17:55am

re: #455 Rustler

With Pancreatic cancer yes she Isn't long for the courts the other potential justice leaving is Stevens? If so may not be to bad with all 3 leaving justices more on the lib side.

Ginsburg never should have got past the Senate in the first place and Souter was Bush's biggest mistake. Good riddance to both of them. It's a pity those two hacks didn't quit six years ago or, for that matter, the day after each was confirmed.

We'll see what Obama comes up with, but I'm not hopeful. Maybe we could have hoped that Clinton would have chosen at least a libertarian but, you'll remember, even he chose a liberal (Breyer) and a leftist (Ginsburg) when it came down to it. Obama would be playing against type if he chose someone serious about the Constitution.

502 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:19:17am

With respect to the SCOTUS... Don't forget that J Stevens is like 99 years old...

503 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:20:47am

re: #482 Spenser (with an S)

The racism charge is yet another tactic to de-legitimize Israel. Israel happens to be surrounded by a race, the Arabs, which is determined to kill Jews for no other reason than their continued existence is deemed unacceptable. Time and again, various Arab leaders have called for genocide of the Jews & destruction of Israel. Surely, that is the very definition of racism. Defending oneself against such enemies is not racism, it's survival.

For the record: Arab Israeli's have citizenship, vote in elections and hold seats in the Knesset. Ethiopian Jews, who are not racially related to either Ashkenazim or Sephardi Jews, have been welcomed to Israel and granted citizenship.

504 johnnyreb  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:21:17am

re: #499 quickjustice

Student loans, tuition, and higher education, are the next big bubble to pop.

My money is on the credit card collapse. A whole bunch of people I know can barely afford the minimum payments. If food prices keep inching up, they are going to default on maxed out credit cards.

505 Zimriel  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:22:36am

All that said, I am sorry that it was cancer that was pushing Ginsburg off the court. No-one deserves that.

506 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:23:22am

re: #503 Kenneth

Thanks Kenneth. I had forgotten about the Ethiopian Jews. Aren't Shia Arabs who returned after '48 given citizenship, too?

507 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:23:31am

Can anyone say, Justice Cynthia McKinney?

508 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:23:38am

re: #501 Zimriel

I was confronted with a hack opinion written by Breyer back when he was a federal judge on the 1st Circuit (Boston). I persuaded a different circuit not to follow Breyer's embarrassing opinion, even though he had been elevated by then to the Supreme Court.

And I rode up on an elevator with another justice at a meeting of the Florida Bar Association at which he was the featured speaker. I asked him what it was like to be on the Supreme Court. He answered, "QJ, it's a life sentence to law review." We both laughed.

509 yesandno  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:24:35am

re: #473 SixDegrees

I don't see much in the way of startling change. Those who have been hoping for a Supreme Court ban on abortion will likely be upset, but that's a delusional hope anyway.

It's entirely possible that we'll wind up with more Centrist picks. We'll have to wait and see whose names get tossed in the hat.

It will be interesting, too, because the long-lasting nature of such selections will reveal once and for all what Obama's actual leanings are. There is no action the President can take that is more ideologically illuminating that a Supreme Court nomination.

They will not be centrists...but they will be called that. Koh is the perfect example or who Obama will name to the courty...in fact, he may eventually be named.

It can be devastating to know that proponents of International law trumping our own Constitutiona Law are now at the head of the class.

510 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:25:06am

re: #507 rightside

yes, in a alternate Clown Universe. Only then it would make sense.

511 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:25:23am

re: #452 SixDegrees

Opposition can only be effective if it is based on the nominee's merits and abilities - a Juliet Meyer's style appointment will sink like a stone under the weight of public opinion, if such a startling lack of qualifications is brought to the public's attention.

///
Gee whiz, that's so true. I mean, it's not like the US voters elected a man with almost no experience or record of achievement to be president.
///

512 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:26:01am

re: #510 BigPapa

Ahh, someone is awake!

513 livefreeor die  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:26:35am

re: #496 SasquatchOnSteroids

Forget all of this political sideshow bullshit. We've got REAL stories to cover...

Now casting: ‘Octomom: The Musical’

The title role is still open.
Most important, he adds, “we want someone who is not going to prejudge the Octomom. We intend to portray her as an American patriot who’s doing her best to stimulate the economy the only way she knows how.”


BWWWAAAHHHAAAHHHAAA
Is this dude related to Joe Biden ?
Good grief...

They can call it something deep like, "My name is Octomom."
Seriously, her actions are patriotic in nature?! Are they going to have a musical number where she pops out 14 kids to "This Land is Your Land"?

514 albusteve  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:27:17am

if you have feet like pontoon boats, these will help


[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

515 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:27:55am

Would you keep it down? I'm working. too late for alcohol, too early for coffee.

516 CommonCents  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:28:06am
517 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:28:12am

Liberal white men need not apply for SCOTUS. How's that for diversity?

518 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:28:17am

re: #506 Spenser (with an S)

Better ask one of our Israeli lizards that question, but I believe you could be right.

Frankly the whole "Israel is racist" meme stinks as much as the KKK saying they are all about love (of white people) not hatred. The people who are saying "Israel is racist", actually hate Jews and want to destroy Israel.

519 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:28:29am

ABC now outing CIA consultants:

This article gives the names and pictures of two consultants who help put together the enhances interrogation technique program. I will not repeat them here to aid and abet ABC, but you can follow the link and see for yourself.

So now these patriots and their families have a target hung on their backs for any wack job out there who wants to go after them. You also have a chilling effect of who is going to want to work with the CIA now?

The authors of the article are Brian Ross, Matthew Cole and Joseph Rhee. May you rot in hell.

I find it interesting how the MSM lost their minds over the Valerie Plame issue, but now they have no problem doing this.

520 SixDegrees  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:28:38am

re: #497 rightside

I don't think many people are hoping for someone right-leaning person to be nominated by obama.

I would like a republican on the judiciary committee to ask this nominee, if congress were to pass a law allowing gay marriage, and others sued on the basis of constitutionality, if they thought it was constitutional, and where in the document that supports it.

Nominees have traditionally refused to address speculative questions of this sort, no matter which side of the fence they've been on. They also decline questions pertaining to cases that might actually come before the court in the near future. Perhaps it's a question that needs to be asked, but it isn't one that's going to get an answer.

Also, as we've strenuously pointed out when Conservative nominees have been questioned about their ideological positions: the role of the Senate is to render advice and consent. The position taken in the recent past has been to demand that ideological positions be set aside, and that the nominee be evaluated on their ability to do the job, not on how they may or may not rule in particular cases. Maybe that's correct; maybe it's a corner we've painted ourselves into. But that's where we are at the moment. Attempts to turn the hearings into a single-issue test will be met with exactly these objections from the majority.

A more effective recourse, should ideological shortcomings turn up, would be to take the case to the public and let them apply pressure to committee members - if they see fit. It isn't exactly a position of strength at the moment, though.

521 Mr Spiffy  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:28:53am

re: #197 littleoldlady


/not that I'd wish the sort of pain you went through on anyone...but you should know there's a tiny silver lining out there!

around every silver lining there's a cloud

522 Zimriel  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:29:05am

re: #503 Kenneth

Ethiopian Jews, who are not racially related to either Ashkenazim or Sephardi Jews, have been welcomed to Israel and granted citizenship.

Aren't Ethiopian Jews non-rabbinic and more like Essenes? I had the idea that they, like the Christians around them, had a different idea of Tanakh than we do.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

523 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:29:17am

Anybody heard about Jay Severin the afternoon host on WTKK Boston being suspended? I listened yesterday afternoon and Custis Sliwa took his place. Nothing was said on air that heard about it. Read on Drudge that he was suspended for

calling Mexican immigrants "criminaliens," "primitives," "leeches," and exporters of "women with mustaches and VD," among other incendiary comments.


I cannot always agree with his phrasing or some of the words he uses but, essentially I agree with every belief he espouses.

524 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:29:34am

re: #496 SasquatchOnSteroids

Forget all of this political sideshow bullshit. We've got REAL stories to cover...

Now casting: ‘Octomom: The Musical’

This article is what my millitary friends would call a target rich environment...

Including classic hits such as: She's Having My Baby, I'm Just A Girl Who Can't Say No and Do It To Me One More Time.

...featuring the Rockettes as the Nanny Corps...

...a Labor of Love...

You get the idea.

525 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:30:01am

re: #498 quickjustice

As I suspected, Obama's negotiating team was discriminating against one group of unsecured creditors in favor of the labor union creditors.

That'll build the business community's confidence in the "integrity" of this administration!

Don't be surprised if this becomes the pattern as other business deals get hammered out in the coming months.

Somewhere, Joe Stalin is grinning.

526 livefreeor die  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:30:49am

re: #524 DaddyG

Don't forget Papa Don't Preach.

527 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:30:51am

re: #467 3 wood

Good morning.

Look for the market to open on the upside today.

The Chrysler bankruptcy took some steam out of things yesterday. It turns out that Chrysler was very close to a deal, Everyone was ready to take a 40% hair cut to make it work. Then but Obama's folks then wanted the primary creditors who had not taken any TARP to take a 70% hair cut so the TARP banks would not have to take a 40% hit, and that they would not do.


So, no deal.


This whole thing just makes me furious. He is taking care of his union friends and his liberal bank friends. Everybody else, just got pushed under the bus. And nobody seems to blink.

528 yesandno  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:31:00am

re: #507 rightside

Can anyone say, Justice Cynthia McKinney?

Now that is one I would personally picket were she ever nominated. Even the far left couldn't think she would be a viable canidate, could they?

529 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:31:01am

re: #519 3 wood

I hear the clip just played a few minutes ago on Laura Ingraham... Disgraceful...

530 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:31:14am

re: #516 CommonCents

Maybe he'll elevate Holder. He'll choose someone who believes in big government, in government intervention in the private sector to pick winners and losers, and who will vote in favor of New Deal type programs.

531 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:31:42am

re: #491 tfc3rid

Come on... If you believe that the President will appoint someone other than a dyed in the wool pseudo-Marxist, Internationalist, you are insane.

They will likely be from Obama's Chicago mob too.

532 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:31:55am

re: #519 3 wood

That's just great. I'm sure they'll get hate mail and threats much more than Charles.

533 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:32:21am

re: #527 VioletTiger

This whole thing just makes me furious. He is taking care of his union friends and his liberal bank friends. Everybody else, just got pushed under the bus. And nobody seems to blink.

The MSM loves it.

534 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:32:28am

re: #520 SixDegrees

Agreed. Perhaps not a hypothetical then. "Do you find any language in the constitution right now, that supports *fill in the blank*, and where.

535 KathyP  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:32:40am

Question - Who's the gal that does news parodies on Youtube each week. Jodie something-or-other? It's a faux newscast with laugh track. I think it's weekly. Should have bookmarked it.

536 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:32:45am

re: #482 Spenser (with an S)

Any Israeli lizards or just someone with knowledge of their citizenship laws? There's an idiot who is claiming the Israel is a racist state by definition because they only allow citizenship to people based on race. Due to the reason they were formed, I guess I would understand that, and therefore it would be technically true, but racist state implies apartheid, intolerance and other things that Israel is not.

Bullshit. Israel has many NON-JEWISH citizens. About 20% or more are Arabs either Christian or Muslim. The only "differentiation" by race has to do with the law of return and mandatory service in the Armed Forces and certain rights that derive from that service.

537 haakondahl  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:32:58am

re: #493 3 wood

Are colleges next on the bail out parade?
Colleges Flunk Economics Test as Harvard Model Destroys Budgets


I am completely unsurprised. One of the most wasteful operations you will ever see is a university/college. I know Professors who think teaching 2 classes a term is asking a lot of them.

The fundamental flaw with Marx's endgame for the State "gracefully withering away" is that no institution which has the power to compel revenue will ever allow itself to decline, left to its own devices.
The fundamental problem with education in this country is that we keep throwing more money at it. The moral hazard to an institution with a bottomless fund is that its costs will always go up, and its products will not improve, or may decline. Even worse, if the money is freely funneled through the customers, then there is also no demand for improvement or economy. Our education system is a perfect storm of simple economic conditions seemingly designed to increase cost while reducing benefit.
We need to strangle this pig, not feed it. To improve education in America, slash funding drastically.

538 KenJen  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:33:15am

re: #507 rightside

Can anyone say, Justice Cynthia McKinney?

What about Justice John Edwards? Nah who am I kidding. Obama will choose an African American woman for the job. Any Republican who doesn't go along will be called a sexist/racist.

539 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:33:53am

re: #525 3 wood

It's more Mussolini and Hitler (economically speaking) than Stalin at this point. But corporatism and fascism can eventually spill over into genuine socialism as government starts owning more and more of the former private sector.

540 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:34:44am

re: #525 3 wood

Don't be surprised if this becomes the pattern as other business deals get hammered out in the coming months. .

What business leaders with any sense would deal with the government after the last few months? It's not like the behavior wasn't predicted.

541 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:34:56am

re: #517 rightside

Liberal white men need not apply for SCOTUS. How's that for diversity?

Why not appoint Kofi Annan? He fits the description & since Obama's appointee must bend the U.S. Constitution to "international law", why not just get it over with?

542 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:34:59am

re: #538 KenJen

Odds are, a woman or hispanic for souter's replacement. jocelyn elders to replace ginsburg?

543 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:36:02am

Good morning y'all - from a warm (64 degrees, going up to 79 degrees with a "high" probability of ran and thunderstorms for the day and for the next three days)
Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

544 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:36:14am

re: #541 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why not appoint Kofi Annan? He fits the description & since Obama's appointee must bend the U.S. Constitution to "international law", why not just get it over with?

With all the graft he probably has taken and is still getting, it would be quite a drop in salary for him?

545 Timbre  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:36:39am

Happy May Day, LGFers! Let's all take to the streets and protest this, that, or the other!

546 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:36:50am

re: #529 tfc3rid

I hear the clip just played a few minutes ago on Laura Ingraham... Disgraceful...

And guess who they use as an expert commentator in the ABC article? An ACLU lawyer.

You have the MSM joining with the ACLU to damage this country's security.

547 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:37:02am

re: #535 KathyP

Question - Who's the gal that does news parodies on Youtube each week. Jodie something-or-other? It's a faux newscast with laugh track. I think it's weekly. Should have bookmarked it.

Joni Miller - it is on Newsbusters.org as well - they produce it.

548 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:37:15am

dang, aussie isn't up late. oh well, you guys see this?

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

I hate mices to pieces.

549 livefreeor die  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:37:25am

Watch him nominate Anita Hill.

550 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:37:50am

re: #543 realwest

Mornin' RW. Still dark out here in the middle of the Pacific.

551 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:38:06am

re: #546 3 wood
Hey my friend, how are you doing today? Didja get my e-mail from last night?

552 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:38:24am

re: #545 Timbre

Happy May Day, LGFers! Let's all take to the streets and protest this, that, or the other!

Or dance around a May Pole. Or something. Who does that anymore?

553 abolitionist  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:38:28am

re: #516 CommonCents

On that Supreme Court note...
Obama, a constitutional law lecturer, has said that the single most important qualification his appointments must possess is empathy for those who are less fortunate.

I guess justice is not blind in the eyes of the one.

But is Angelina Jolie qualified in any other ways?

554 Zimriel  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:38:39am

re: #545 Timbre

Happy May Day, LGFers! Let's all take to the streets and protest this, that, or the other!

Tea party!

/hi, killgore

555 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:39:12am

re: #536 Nevergiveup

re: #482 Spenser (with an S)

Any Israeli lizards or just someone with knowledge of their citizenship laws? There's an idiot who is claiming the Israel is a racist state by definition because they only allow citizenship to people based on race. Due to the reason they were formed, I guess I would understand that, and therefore it would be technically true, but racist state implies apartheid, intolerance and other things that Israel is not.

Bullshit. Israel has many NON-JEWISH citizens. About 20% or more are Arabs either Christian or Muslim. The only "differentiation" by race has to do with the law of return and mandatory service in the Armed Forces and certain rights that derive from that service.

Thank you, that helps me a lot. So it's the "automatic" citizenship only that is by race ?

556 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:39:41am

re: #545 Timbre

You mean like this?

May Day Clashes Start Early in Berlin

Another year, another riot. Following a tradition that goes back decades, anti-capitalist protestors clashed with riot police on Thursday evening in Berlin and Hamburg, in a warm-up for the main event on Friday.

557 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:40:03am

re: #550 BigPapa
Good morning to you too, BigPapa!
Uh, whereabouts in the Pacific are you?

558 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:40:20am

strange times indeed. 8 years of this stuff will take a lot of humor away.

559 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:40:24am

re: #536 Nevergiveup

I believe Israel is the only country in the world (including those lovely Muslim states) that allows Palestinians to serve in their Legislative body.

560 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:40:47am

This Sonia Sotomayor is way out on the left from what they are saying on FOX. And she may be the front runner. And might I say Megen Kelly's boobs seem to enjoy being pregnant?

561 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:40:48am

re: #540 BigPapa

What business leaders with any sense would deal with the government after the last few months? It's not like the behavior wasn't predicted.

The ones that are still in the que. GM, some of the banks, those deals.

But nobody in their right mind will have anything to do with these people after this.

562 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:41:04am

re: #543 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a warm (64 degrees, going up to 79 degrees with a "high" probability of ran and thunderstorms for the day and for the next three days)
Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?


How are you doing, real?
It's rainy here in Jersey and there are 10 yards of wet mulch in my driveway. And our forcast is about the same.

563 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:41:15am

Morning, everyone. Is there a spare caffeine IV drip around here? I could use some tap time.

564 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:41:16am

re: #557 realwest

Big Island, Kona. I'm pretty sure it will be partly cloudy/sunny here, low to high 80's. Experience tells me this...

565 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:41:25am

re: #546 3 wood

I followed your comments back upthread. ABC outed CIA consultants? That is despicable, what has this country come to.

566 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:42:36am

re: #551 realwest

I'm home sick (not the flu, just a regular fever). I'll check the mail and be back in a minute.

567 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:42:40am

re: #565 turn

I followed your comments back upthread. ABC outed CIA consultants? That is despicable, what has this country come to.

So much for deep cover, Deep Throat, or any potential Deep Waterboard. Everything is as shallow as can be.

568 KenJen  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:43:01am

re: #542 rightside

Odds are, a woman or hispanic for souter's replacement. jocelyn elders to replace ginsburg?

Minnie? Too old.

569 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:43:25am

re: #566 3 wood

"I'm home sick (not the flu, just a regular fever)."

That's what they all say. Masks on, everybody!

570 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:43:30am

re: #560 Nevergiveup

This Sonia Sotomayor is way out on the left from what they are saying on FOX. And she may be the front runner. And might I say Megen Kelly's boobs seem to enjoy being pregnant?

You are a pig but you would be correct on the boobelage.

571 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:43:35am

re: #561 3 wood

Methinks survival of the fittest will ensue: too stupid to stay away from government will get sucked up into it. But it begs the question: how were you smart enough to run a business but not smart enough to know government 'help' would fundamentally change your business model?

572 MJ  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:43:42am

Breaking:

Case against ex-AIPAC staffers dropped
May 1, 2009

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- A source with intimate knowledge of the case against two ex-AIPAC staffers accused of passing along classified information says the case has been dropped.

Keith Weissman, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee's former Iran analyst, and Steve Rosen, its former foreign policy chief, were charged under a rarely used section of the 1917 Espionage Act that makes it a crime for civilians to receive and distribute closely held defense information. Both men were later dismissed by AIPAC, with the organization claiming the two had violated its rules; Rosen, in turn has filed a multi-million dollar lawsuit against AIPAC.

Federal prosecutors reportedly had been considering dropping the criminal case in the wake of a number of recent judicial decisions that make the prosecution more difficult. Among these was an appeals court rejection of a prosecution request to review the trial judge's order that prosecutors make the case that the defendants harmed the United States and not merely benefited Israel. Some Democrats see the case as a piece with Bush-era efforts to expand government secrecy powers, but the Post quoted its sources as saying that the review would have occurred whether or not Barack Obama had won election as president.

The dropping of the case comes just days before the start Sunday of AIPAC's annual policy conference in Washington.


[Link: jta.org...]

573 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:43:43am

Good Morning Lizards! Happy Friday!
VXbush..I have coffee available..We are doing a nice Kona blend this morning..

574 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:43:46am

re: #565 turn

I followed your comments back upthread. ABC outed CIA consultants? That is despicable, what has this country come to.

The vengeful, power hungry, emboldened left is revealing their true dictatorial face; the same thoughts and behaviors they have been projecting on the right for so long.

575 albusteve  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:43:47am

let's get ready to rumble...this should be a good one


[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

576 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:43:49am

re: #555 Spenser (with an S)

Thank you, that helps me a lot. So it's the "automatic" citizenship only that is by race ?

Israel has a Law that any JEW ( and that opens up a whole other can of worms ) has a right to show up in Israel and to become a citizen. That only applies to Jews. Others can apply for citizenship like anyone else. The Law of Return stems from Israel's unique place as refuge for all Jews who need it. This was shaped by WW2 and the HOLOCAUST.

577 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:43:54am

re: #500 tfc3rid

THAT will be very, very bad... Although I will take credit cards for $1,000 Alex...

Responsible spending will save you from debt in the end. I had $34K in CC debt in December. I am now down to $7K.

Well done! *applause*

That must have been a real tough slog. Jebus!

578 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:44:12am

re: #560 Nevergiveup
Good mrning! I heard them mention Sonia Sotomayor on F&F this morning as being the front runner but other than the fact that she's a woman and an Hispanic (a "two-fer" as F&F put it) I don't know much about her. She can't be worse than Souter though. I don't recall Souter as being against ANYTHING that was LEFTY oriented.

579 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:44:25am

re: #569 Lincolntf

"I'm home sick (not the flu, just a regular fever)."

That's what they all say. Masks on, everybody!

Thsdf wu wdn't hr me.*

* Then you wouldn't hear me.

580 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:44:34am

re: #559 Lincolntf

I believe Israel is the only country in the world (including those lovely Muslim states) that allows Palestinians to serve in their Legislative body.

It allows any legally constituted citizen to serve in the Knesset.

581 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:45:26am

re: #573 HoosierHoops

How about this C's series? Un-frickin-believable. Best basketball I've seen in years (maybe decades).

582 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:45:39am

re: #573 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! Happy Friday!
VXbush..I have coffee available..We are doing a nice Kona blend this morning..

Well, that's very nice, but I prefer non-coffee caffeine. I just never developed a taste for it.

583 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:46:03am

re: #570 bolivar

You are a pig but you would be correct on the boobelage.

Thank You! And proud oink oink of that also!

584 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:46:26am

re: #567 vxbush

So much for deep cover, Deep Throat, or any potential Deep Waterboard. Everything is as shallow as can be.

Morning vx, ha seriously shallow. Why would anybody in their right mind want to weaken our national defense and intelligence gathering capability? oh never mind ...

585 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:46:47am

re: #562 VioletTiger
Good morning VioletTiger! Uh, how did those 10 yards of mulch get into your driveway? And how long ago did it start to rain (y'all might try covering it with a tarp or something, cause I gotta figure 10 yards of soaking wet muclch can't smell too swell!).

586 yesandno  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:46:59am

re: #542 rightside

Odds are, a woman or hispanic for souter's replacement. jocelyn elders to replace ginsburg?

Other then being black and female, I don't think she qualifies. She is 75 and a medical doctor, so doubt Jocelyn is in the running. However, she might be like so many other liberal jurists when it comes to the law...she believes in masturbation !

/which is something they do to the law on a daily basis.

587 apachegunner  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:47:04am

re: #570 bolivar

You are a pig but you would be correct on the boobelage.


yeaaa, boob thread, boob thread, morning lizards

588 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:47:05am

re: #583 Nevergiveup

Thank You! And proud oink oink of that also!

Oinkety oink right back.

589 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:47:06am

re: #581 Lincolntf

How about this C's series? Un-frickin-believable. Best basketball I've seen in years (maybe decades).


This is one of the battles in years..I was blogging last night in the upper frequencies when it hit the 3rd Overtime..Unbelievable!

590 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:47:17am

re: #578 realwest

Good mrning! I heard them mention Sonia Sotomayor on F&F this morning as being the front runner but other than the fact that she's a woman and an Hispanic (a "two-fer" as F&F put it) I don't know much about her. She can't be worse than Souter though. I don't recall Souter as being against ANYTHING that was LEFTY oriented.

They just had someone on who said she is way way way out there to the left

591 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:47:27am

{realwest} Good morning luv *smoochie-smooch* Always glad to see you. :D

Looking forward to the weekend after a really tough week in the salt mines.

How's every little thing?

592 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:47:27am

re: #584 turn

Morning vx, ha seriously shallow. Why would anybody in their right mind want to weaken our national defense and intelligence gathering capability? oh never mind ...

Yes, I'm afraid it can only get worse.

593 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:47:28am

re: #580 Nevergiveup

Do you happen to know if there are currently any Palestinians in the Knesset? I want to make sure that this "fact" I remember is actually accurate. It's been a while.

594 lawhawk  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:48:13am

re: #560 Nevergiveup

Sotomayor's a qualified justice - on the 2d Circuit Court of Appeals. She's a liberal, but qualified. It will be interesting to see how the process plays out, given the way Obama's botched the vetting process on nearly every other important choice, including Treasury and Surgeon General (whose post is still held by an acting SG).

The thing to keep in mind is that the ideological makeup of the court isn't going to change with Souter's retirement. That would happen only if one of the conservative members, or Anthony Kennedy, retire. That would give Obama the opportunity to swing the court to the left.

If folks don't like the way Obama is going to choose members for the Bench, you should take a real hard look at who you voted for in 2008.

595 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:49:14am

It's heartening to know that your post-racial president will not consider sex or race of a new SCOTUS nominee and that he won't have a litmus test of 'empathy for less fortunate' as a qualifier, whatever that means.

It's heartening to see the media release the names of consultants who wrote manuals or processes for waterboarding, because we all have a right to know.

It's heartening to see government 'save' business by taking it over. They do such a great job with everything else, this should be awesome. They should take over everything, that would be super.

Now I'm ready for my Kona blend.

596 abolitionist  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:49:17am

Found via headlines at HotAir:
In California, Cases Suggest Border Origin

By NICHOLAS CASEY

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Doctors tracking swine flu in this state are investigating a new theory: What if it didn't originate in Mexico but instead had been floating around the border region for months?

Growing evidence in California suggests that early flu cases had no apparent origin in Mexico. Many of the early California victims -- including the first two cases -- say they hadn't traveled to Mexico and had no contact with pigs. Some may have fallen ill before the first Mexicans did.

Those cases contradict the conventional understanding of how the strain originated. [snip]

La Raza will have a hissy fit.

597 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:49:21am

re: #585 realwest

Good morning VioletTiger! Uh, how did those 10 yards of mulch get into your driveway? And how long ago did it start to rain (y'all might try covering it with a tarp or something, cause I gotta figure 10 yards of soaking wet muclch can't smell too swell!).

Oh, a tarp. How I hate that word! I guess I should go find one, but me thinks the damage is done.

598 apachegunner  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:49:44am

re: #573 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! Happy Friday!
VXbush..I have coffee available..We are doing a nice Kona blend this morning..


hi HH, heres a little bailys for ya

599 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:50:05am

re: #574 DaddyG

The vengeful, power hungry, emboldened left is revealing their true dictatorial face; the same thoughts and behaviors they have been projecting on the right for so long.

Scary thing is with the 60 vote super majority they have all the power now, no longer hungry. I"m not confident one single dem will vote against the pack. Get ready for socialized medicine.

600 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:50:07am

re: #531 3 wood

They will likely be from Obama's Chicago mob too.

Just heard the name Deval Patrick thrown in there...

601 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:50:25am

re: #564 BigPapa You actually live on the Big Island? Geez, how lucky can you get! I LOVE Hawaii - it's really paradise where they speak English, too! And Kona just happens to be my favorite coffee.

602 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:50:33am

re: #551 realwest

Mail read and responded.

It's all good.

603 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:50:43am

re: #600 tfc3rid

Tell me you're kidding. Now. Tell me!

604 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:50:45am

As a conservative lawyer, let me say this first: I'll take a principled, competent liberal judge any day over a political hack of any persuasion!

605 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:51:07am

Any NYC-area or Philly lizards interested in 2 Mets-Phillies tix next Thursday night at Citi Field? Hit me up with an email...

606 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:51:09am

re: #573 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! Happy Friday!
VXbush..I have coffee available..We are doing a nice Kona blend this morning..

Oooo. Love Kona coffee. One of the bestest things to come out of Hawaii. Any guesses on one of the worstest?

607 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:51:11am

re: #598 apachegunner

hi HH, heres a little bailys for ya


Hi Gunner..It's going to be a 3 day weekend! Fill er up! LOL

608 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:51:35am

re: #604 quickjustice

Yeah, but will Obama?

609 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:52:02am

re: #546 3 wood

And guess who they use as an expert commentator in the ABC article? An ACLU lawyer.

You have the MSM joining with the ACLU to damage this country's security.

Fucking shocker.

610 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:52:11am

re: #594 lawhawk

Sotomayor's a qualified justice - on the 2d Circuit Court of Appeals. She's a liberal, but qualified. It will be interesting to see how the process plays out, given the way Obama's botched the vetting process on nearly every other important choice, including Treasury and Surgeon General (whose post is still held by an acting SG).

The thing to keep in mind is that the ideological makeup of the court isn't going to change with Souter's retirement. That would happen only if one of the conservative members, or Anthony Kennedy, retire. That would give Obama the opportunity to swing the court to the left.

If folks don't like the way Obama is going to choose members for the Bench, you should take a real hard look at who you voted for in 2008.

Amen and that should be on everybodies agenda. Rethink their vote in November. I have thought about mine...Sarah was the reason I had no problem voting for mclame but, even the medias continual bitching, lying and badgering could not make up for the fact that Sarah is more qualified than ANY of the other candidates hands down. She has more on the ball than obambi and way more than biden...note they don't get capitalized on purpose.

611 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:52:22am

re: #606 VioletTiger

Oooo. Love Kona coffee. One of the bestest things to come out of Hawaii. Any guesses on one of the worstest?

I can't think of anything bad in Hawaii..Too much sun? to many bikinis?
Nope..nothing comes to mind... :)

612 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:52:26am

re: #575 albusteve

let's get ready to rumble...this should be a good one


[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

Scientists squelch dissenting opinion? This world seems to be upside down.

613 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:52:36am

re: #594 lawhawk

If folks don't like the way Obama is going to choose members for the Bench, you should take a real hard look at who you voted for in 2008.

Or stayed home & didn't vote for, as the case may be.

614 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:52:48am

re: #577 {Miss Trixie} Hey there gorgeous! *Smooches* to you! How are you doing today? How's Lil Miss doing?

615 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:53:01am

re: #493 3 wood

Are colleges next on the bail out parade?
Colleges Flunk Economics Test as Harvard Model Destroys Budgets


I am completely unsurprised. One of the most wasteful operations you will ever see is a university/college. I know Professors who think teaching 2 classes a term is asking a lot of them.

To be fair, it depends on the classes and the overall expectations of the university/college. I used to spend 20-25 hours a week on the teaching of one class (prep time, class time, office hours, grading). So a conscientious prof teaching two classes, who is also required to sit on at least one committee of some kind, and who also has to publish research regularly, can easily be putting in a 60-hour week.

I'm not saying colleges don't need to run more efficiently; just pointing out that the few hours in front of the classroom are usually not even close to half the actual workload of teaching at a university.

616 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:53:02am

re: #593 Lincolntf

Do you happen to know if there are currently any Palestinians in the Knesset? I want to make sure that this "fact" I remember is actually accurate. It's been a while.

There are Arab Israelis in the Knesset. I guess you could call them Palestinians, but what does that mean? There are no "Palestinians" from the West Bank or Gaza in the Knesset, because they are not part of Israel Proper. Does that answer your question?

617 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:53:04am

re: #595 BigPapa

You forgot the sarc tag right?

618 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:53:14am

re: #608 Lincolntf

He would be smart to pick a principled, smart, low-key liberal. That would sidestep much of the inevitable firestorm. Given his nominees so far, however, I have little confidence he'll do so.

619 Render  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:53:24am

re: #482 Spenser (with an S)

Utter BS.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

[Link: www.israellycool.com...]

That particular meme is very common amongst the anti-Semitic Left. Somebody has been felching Raimondo for talking points.

EW,
R

620 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:53:28am

re: #577 Miss Trixie

Well done! *applause*

That must have been a real tough slog. Jebus!

Still is... I will not stop until it's all gone (which should be in a month and a half or so...)

621 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:54:01am

re: #616 Nevergiveup

Yeah. It was the definition of "Palestinian" that always made me unsure. Thanks.

622 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:54:03am

re: #599 turn

Scary thing is with the 60 vote super majority they have all the power now, no longer hungry. I"m not confident one single dem will vote against the pack. Get ready for socialized medicine.

Which means I need to get anything done *now*. Sigh. This will not be good for my son.

623 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:54:19am

re: #606 VioletTiger

Oooo. Love Kona coffee. One of the bestest things to come out of Hawaii. Any guesses on one of the worstest?

Can it be proven with a Nirth Certifikit?

624 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:54:23am

re: #577 Miss Trixie

Well done! *applause*

That must have been a real tough slog. Jebus!

wow, I wish I could do that. tf must have been eating nothing but rice. dang

625 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:54:28am

re: #600 tfc3rid

Just heard the name Deval Patrick thrown in there...

Oh jeez that is something I would not wish on my worst enemy. He has managed to take Massachusetts to the brink and beyond and is just a waste of oxygen.

626 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:54:34am

re: #550 BigPapa

Mornin' RW. Still dark out here in the middle of the Pacific.

Good morning.

Have you caught a glimpse of that "Island of Garbage" that's floating somewhere in the Pacific that's twice the size of Texas that has never been photographed and is killing all the sea-kittens according to the shreiking enviro-whackos and all the hyper-ventilating watermelon activists and we'realldoomedifwedon'tdosomethingaboutitNOW?

*big breath*

/Not a bad run-on sentence if I do say so meself. :D

627 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:54:50am

re: #605 tfc3rid

Any NYC-area or Philly lizards interested in 2 Mets-Phillies tix next Thursday night at Citi Field? Hit me up with an email...

Would love to, but I'm crazy with work until the month is over. I'd be up for a game in the summer, though.

628 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:55:06am

The Stargate is open...

629 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:55:11am

re: #603 Lincolntf

Tell me you're kidding. Now. Tell me!

Not kidding... Heard someone on the radio mentioned his name as someone that Obama likes a lot and feels very close in judicial ideas with...

630 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:55:56am

re: #594 lawhawk

Sotomayor's a qualified justice - on the 2d Circuit Court of Appeals. She's a liberal, but qualified. It will be interesting to see how the process plays out, given the way Obama's botched the vetting process on nearly every other important choice, including Treasury and Surgeon General (whose post is still held by an acting SG).

The thing to keep in mind is that the ideological makeup of the court isn't going to change with Souter's retirement. That would happen only if one of the conservative members, or Anthony Kennedy, retire. That would give Obama the opportunity to swing the court to the left.

If folks don't like the way Obama is going to choose members for the Bench, you should take a real hard look at who you voted for in 2008.

The person on FOX said that yes of course the voting blocks on the Court will not change, but that this Sonia is so far to the left that some 9-0 decisions would have been 8-1 and that in the long run, she and probably all of Obama's selections will "ideologically" shift the court to the left.

631 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:57:13am

re: #626 Miss Trixie Nice rant. I can just picture you in a che t-shirt and birkenstocks. /

632 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:57:47am

re: #621 Lincolntf

Yeah. It was the definition of "Palestinian" that always made me unsure. Thanks.

Your not the only one. I am still not sure what a "Palestinian" is?

633 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:57:51am

re: #630 Nevergiveup

Of course Obama's selections will ideologically shift the court to the left (or to the extreme right if you think corporatism is fascist).

634 Lincolntf  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:58:09am

re: #625 bolivar

If Deval does leave, then the Governor of Massachusetts will be a kid I played Little League with. Also went to a few of the same keggers in our day, but he was a couple years older.
Too bad he's a hack, he's a nice guy.

635 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:58:28am

Here's Steve Malanga's article on why Obama is a corporatist: [Link: www.realclearmarkets.com...]

636 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:59:07am

re: #632 Nevergiveup

Your not the only one. I am still not sure what a "Palestinian" is?


But they are terribly fashionable when it comes to neck wear. All the Kollege kids just have to have their scarves. /

637 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:59:35am

re: #617 bolivar

That post needed neon Sarc sign, but Stinky hasn't gotten around to it yet with the move an all. That was ooozing goo from many sarc pustules...

638 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:59:41am

Can we just ship him out already?

Demjanjuk Sues German Government

He has used almost every legal means to try to avoid being deported to Germany. Now alleged Nazi war criminal John Demjanjuk is filing suit against the German government in his bid to stay in the US.

/ Pat must be sooo happy

639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 6:59:58am

re: #632 Nevergiveup

Your not the only one. I am still not sure what a "Palestinian" is?

An Arab from Jordan or Egypt who isn't Jordanian or Egyptian. Hope that cleared things up.

640 KenJen  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:00:19am

re: #599 turn

Scary thing is with the 60 vote super majority they have all the power now, no longer hungry. I"m not confident one single Dem will vote against the pack. Get ready for socialized medicine.

This could really back fire on the Dem's. Right now they can blame big insurance companies for killing people by denying or prolonging claims. When we have socialized medicine it will all be on their shoulders. No one else to blame.

641 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:00:22am

re: #560 Nevergiveup

This Sonia Sotomayor is way out on the left from what they are saying on FOX. And she may be the front runner. And might I say Megen Kelly's boobs seem to enjoy being pregnant?

You already did...you pig you.

642 avanti  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:00:23am

re: #132 FurryOldGuyJeans

It was Bush's lack of vision that has fallen on Obama here. As much as I may dislike the POTUS' policies I can not in good conscience pass the buck beyond where it should be.

And the real cock-up happened IIRC when the freshly minted Dem majority after the 2006 mid-terms shot down any budget proposals for the replacement simply because it was Bush doing the requesting.

It appears BHO is just going with the Bush plan with a NASA budget increase.

NASA.

643 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:01:14am

re: #623 DaddyG

Can it be proven with a Nirth Certifikit?

Coffee needs a Nirth Certificate? Oh noes...

644 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:01:44am

re: #543 realwest

Did you get the evil IE8 removed? Did the instructions I sent help?

I had trouble telling Vista not to install IE8. XP went fine; unchecked it and it didn't install it.
But on Vista, somehow it got checked again and it tried to install it anyway.
I use Firefox mostly; IE for a couple of sites that don't quite work in Firefox, so I figure IE8 would break those as well.

645 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:02:33am

re: #527 VioletTiger

This whole thing just makes me furious. He is taking care of his union friends and his liberal bank friends. Everybody else, just got pushed under the bus. And nobody seems to blink.

I blinked. I had to restrain myself from throwing something at the TV when that POS we are stuck with as POTUS started smearing the investment managers who were simply trying to get fair treatment for their clients. Calling them un-American. How dare he?

[self-deleted]

I am trying very hard not to develop a virulent case of ODS, but he's making it very hard not to hate him. I used to hope I merely disagreed with all his policies. But it's become abundantly clear that he's a liar with a petty, vindictive spirit.

646 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:02:34am

re: #634 Lincolntf

If Deval does leave, then the Governor of Massachusetts will be a kid I played Little League with. Also went to a few of the same keggers in our day, but he was a couple years older.
Too bad he's a hack, he's a nice guy.

Deval is screwing up Mass. bad enough - to put him on the court where he could do untold damage to the WHOLE country would be inexcusable. I love this guys attitude - you don't like it tough!

647 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:02:41am

re: #639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

An Arab from Jordan or Egypt who isn't Jordanian or Egyptian. Hope that cleared things up.

There are plenty from other countries also. And who do Arab Israeli's owe their allegiance to? Like I have to ask.

648 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:02:57am

re: #622 vxbush

Which means I need to get anything done *now*. Sigh. This will not be good for my son.

I have TWO sons. oh my ...

649 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:03:12am

re: #641 bolivar

I am losing it - I reloaded and the old page was in the cache...I hate IE.

650 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:03:13am

What is wrong with our veterans organizations? Why did we not hear a bigger outcry from them about the recent DHS report stating that police should watch for dangerous activity from our veterans returning home?

Glen M. Gardner Jr., the national commander of the VFW and a Vietnam veteran, actually defended the report. "The report proves that DHS is doing its job, and that's to protect America and Americans."...

One wonders what it will take for the members of the VFW to confront their leadership for betrayals such as this. In 2008, the VFW's Political Action Committee endorsed John P. Murtha, Pennsylvania Democrat, in his re-election campaign for Congress against 28-year Army veteran Bill Russell, who had served in Operation Desert Storm, Kosovo and Iraq and heroically participated in rescue efforts at the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001. This endorsement came despite the congressman's infamous repeated slander of Marines in Haditha, Iraq, at a critical point in the war. ...

On July 4, 1903, President Theodore Roosevelt spoke these famous words: "A man who is good enough to shed his blood for his country is good enough to be given a square deal afterward. More than that no man is entitled, and less than that no man shall have." (Emphasis added by FP) It is time for veterans' organizations to recognize this mission, and abandon the petty pandering that continues to stand in the way of real progress and honest representation. It is up to veterans to force the VSOs to represent us, or to replace them.

Our veterans deserve much better representation than this.

(I love the Roosevelt quote, BTW)

651 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:04:11am

re: #649 bolivar

I am losing it - I reloaded and the old page was in the cache...I hate IE.

that's ok, this pig isn't mad

652 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:04:27am

re: #644 Kosh's Shadow
Hi there my friend - no I'm not awake enough yet to do that!
But I do appreciate your e-mail and I'm gonna undo this stupid IE 8 as soon as I get off LGF today!

653 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:04:34am

re: #626 Miss Trixie

we'realldoomedifwedon'tdosomethingaboutitNOW?

ha, I ran out of breath just reading that.

654 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:05:36am

Good Morning, {all y'all}
I sure could use a little pick-me-up this morning. I've already maxed out on coffee.

re: #622 vxbush

Which means I need to get anything done *now*. Sigh. This will not be good for my son.

{vx} {the dude}

655 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:05:39am

re: #645 lurking faith

I blinked. I had to restrain myself from throwing something at the TV when that POS we are stuck with as POTUS started smearing the investment managers who were simply trying to get fair treatment for their clients. Calling them un-American. How dare he?

[self-deleted]

I am trying very hard not to develop a virulent case of ODS, but he's making it very hard not to hate him. I used to hope I merely disagreed with all his policies. But it's become abundantly clear that he's a liar with a petty, vindictive spirit.

Can anybody now doubt that he was indeed a member of the Socialist New Party? I never doubted it. He is anti business and anti capitalist.

656 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:06:09am

re: #578 realwest

Good mrning! I heard them mention Sonia Sotomayor on F&F this morning as being the front runner but other than the fact that she's a woman and an Hispanic (a "two-fer" as F&F put it) I don't know much about her. She can't be worse than Souter though. I don't recall Souter as being against ANYTHING that was LEFTY oriented.

Call me a pessimist, but... there's ALWAYS a worse option.

657 Aye Pod  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:06:17am

Science, Society and The Merchants of Light

A conversation between Roger Bingham and Richard Dawkins, AC Grayling, Brian Greene, Lawrence Krauss and Steven Pinker
April 5, 2009


[Link: thesciencenetwork.org...]

Just off to watch this now.

658 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:07:27am

re: #635 quickjustice

Here's Steve Malanga's article on why Obama is a corporatist: [Link: www.realclearmarkets.com...]

and on the rare chance any of you are as dumb as turn:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

659 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:07:48am

re: #522 Zimriel

The origin of the Ethiopian Jews is unclear. There are various histories or oral traditions describing how they came to be Jewish. DNA studies suggest they are the descendants of native Ethiopians who converted it Judaism.

660 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:09:04am

re: #650 Ford_Prefect
Uh, good morning Ford! Before you get flamed and by Charles possibly, the actual wording of the DHS memo was only to watch for "disaffected veterans who have connected to right wing extremist groups". I guess disaffected veterans who have connected to Left Wing Extremist Groups (like the Tree-Huggers who drive big steel spikes in 'em to "foil" loggers or who burn down new housing developments or who try to burn up Hummers in drive ways and dealerships) are ok with DHS.

661 johnnyreb  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:09:50am

re: #650 Ford_Prefect

What is wrong with our veterans organizations? Why did we not hear a bigger outcry from them about the recent DHS report stating that police should watch for dangerous activity from our veterans returning home?


Our veterans deserve much better representation than this.

(I love the Roosevelt quote, BTW)

The VFW has morphed into a weak political organization, and is no longer just a veterans organization for the most part.

As the older vets die off in ever increasing numbers, the younger vets are just not stepping upto the plate. This makes the organization run with just a few people in all of the critical spots. They are the ones making decisions and charting the course for the organization and they are overwhelmed.

The VFW is not like it was just 15-20 years ago. Then there would have been an outcry of epic proportions about that memo, and most likely some serious numbers marching in DC to protest it.

662 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:10:02am

re: #519 3 wood

ABC now outing CIA consultants:

This article gives the names and pictures of two consultants who help put together the enhances interrogation technique program. I will not repeat them here to aid and abet ABC, but you can follow the link and see for yourself.

So now these patriots and their families have a target hung on their backs for any wack job out there who wants to go after them. You also have a chilling effect of who is going to want to work with the CIA now?

The authors of the article are Brian Ross, Matthew Cole and Joseph Rhee. May you rot in hell.

I find it interesting how the MSM lost their minds over the Valerie Plame issue, but now they have no problem doing this.

They've always hated the CIA. They only trumpeted Plame's cause to bash Bush. Bastards, every one of them.

663 Eowyn2  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:10:13am

I eat my peas with honey
I've done it all my life
It makes the peas taste funny
but it keeps them on my knife

Ogden Nash

664 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:10:29am

BBIAM!

665 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:10:40am

re: #640 KenJen

This could really back fire on the Dem's. Right now they can blame big insurance companies for killing people by denying or prolonging claims. When we have socialized medicine it will all be on their shoulders. No one else to blame.

Morning Jen, what do you mean? Government programs always expand coverage and expedite payment of claims.
/need I?

666 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:11:07am

re: #595 BigPapa

It's heartening to know that your post-racial president will not consider sex or race of a new SCOTUS nominee and that he won't have a litmus test of 'empathy for less fortunate' as a qualifier, whatever that means.

It's heartening to see the media release the names of consultants who wrote manuals or processes for waterboarding, because we all have a right to know.

It's heartening to see government 'save' business by taking it over. They do such a great job with everything else, this should be awesome. They should take over everything, that would be super.

Now I'm ready for my Kona blend.

I think now I'm ready for a different sort of blend...

667 avanti  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:12:10am

re: #519 3 wood

ABC now outing CIA consultants:

This article gives the names and pictures of two consultants who help put together the enhances interrogation technique program. I will not repeat them here to aid and abet ABC, but you can follow the link and see for yourself.

We discussed this yesterday, they were outed in 2007 in a Vanity Fair article, ABC and others just picked up the story again.

So now these patriots and their families have a target hung on their backs for any wack job out there who wants to go after them. You also have a chilling effect of who is going to want to work with the CIA now?

The authors of the article are Brian Ross, Matthew Cole and Joseph Rhee. May you rot in hell.

I find it interesting how the MSM lost their minds over the Valerie Plame issue, but now they have no problem doing this.

668 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:14:00am

re: #660 realwest

Good morning, real.

I am sorry, but I don't think that excuses it. First of all you are right to point out that they target the right, but more than that, they are suggesting that law abiding, former military personnel should be targeted for observation. I have no problem if someone comes home and begins to cause trouble, or even if that person was discharged from the military for their actions. This, however, comes across to me as being much more insidious then that.

669 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:14:25am

re: #614 realwest

Hey there gorgeous! *Smooches* to you! How are you doing today? How's Lil Miss doing?

I'm fine, thanks for asking and Lil Miss is her regular chubby and wholly entertaining self. Something spooked her this morning as I was preparing for work and she zoomed upstairs all atremble to be put back in bed.

Seems a Robin was flinging itself upon the sliding patio door making quite a racket and it scared her. Such a creampuff.

670 Eowyn2  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:14:42am

The Lord in His wisdom
made the fly
and then forgot
to tell us why

Ogden Nash

671 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:14:53am

re: #650 Ford_Prefect

What is wrong with our veterans organizations? Why did we not hear a bigger outcry from them about the recent DHS report stating that police should watch for dangerous activity from our veterans returning home?

Maybe because that's not what the DHS memo said?

(It said the violent right-wing groups would likely try to recruit combat veterans.)

672 aggieann  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:14:55am

re: #493 3 wood

Are colleges next on the bail out parade?
Colleges Flunk Economics Test as Harvard Model Destroys Budgets

I am completely unsurprised. One of the most wasteful operations you will ever see is a university/college. I know Professors who think teaching 2 classes a term is asking a lot of them.

That's like saying coaches only work when their teams are on the playing field, or that lawyers only work when they're in court. Teaching two courses while conducting research, serving on university committees and overseeing Ph.D. students is much more than a full-time job.

673 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:15:18am

re: #638 Bubblehead II

Can we just ship him out hang him already?

Demjanjuk Sues German Government

He has used almost every legal means to try to avoid being deported to Germany. Now alleged Nazi war criminal John Demjanjuk is filing suit against the German government in his bid to stay in the US.

/ Pat must be sooo happy

fixed

674 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:16:01am

Did I hear correctly--Timmy Geithner and Rahm Emanuel made the list of most beautiful people?

675 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:16:31am

re: #674 VioletTiger

Did I hear correctly--Timmy Geithner and Rahm Emanuel made the list of most beautiful people?

Eww. I threw up a little.

676 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:16:31am

re: #666 lurking faith

I've only recently gotten into scotch. Oban was my first good one, now I drink Balvenie, so I seem to more o a single malt guy. I like JWBlack a bit.
Though, I'm always gracious enough to accept offers of liquid gifts...

677 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:16:50am

re: #667 avanti

If that pisses you avanti (and I hope it does), perhaps I can now persuade you to reconsider your support for the left.

678 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:17:27am

re: #676 BigPapa

I've only recently gotten into scotch. Oban was my first good one, now I drink Balvenie, so I seem to more o a single malt guy. I like JWBlack a bit.
Though, I'm always gracious enough to accept offers of liquid gifts...

Ever try Jonnie Walker Blue?

679 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:18:06am

re: #676 BigPapa

I've only recently gotten into scotch. Oban was my first good one, now I drink Balvenie, so I seem to more o a single malt guy. I like JWBlack a bit.
Though, I'm always gracious enough to accept offers of liquid gifts...

Somebody gave us a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue. Shame we don't drink scotch.

680 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:18:11am

Heh, small business guy on fox now saying Obama isn't keeping his business to help small business. Oh, what a shocka!

681 avanti  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:18:45am

re: #662 Dark_Falcon

They've always hated the CIA. They only trumpeted Plame's cause to bash Bush. Bastards, every one of them.

Don't blame ABC, it was old news. Here's the first outing of the contractors from the 2007
Vanity Fair

682 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:19:00am

Scotch is the armpit sweat of Satan, in my humble opinion. Bleccch.

But, different strokes, etc.

683 aggieann  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:19:16am

The problem with a kitten is that
Eventually it becomes a cat
Ogden Nash (or maybe James Thurber)

684 CommonCents  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:19:27am

re: #674 VioletTiger

Did I hear correctly--Timmy Geithner and Rahm Emanuel made the list of most beautiful people?

They were standing close to Obama while his pecs glistened. Time was confused by the lighting.

685 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:19:42am

re: #662 Dark_Falcon

They've always hated the CIA. They only trumpeted Plame's cause to bash Bush. Bastards, every one of them.

You got that right.

686 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:19:54am

Something to bear in mind on Obama's budget, they assumed a growth rate of 4% a year and they still are going to run up massive deficits.

Well there is a problem with their assumptions. The GDP contracted 6.1% on an annual basis in the 1st quarter for 2009. FYI, when the GDP contracts that means that we have a dropping standard of living and dropping revenues for the government to tax. In general, the incomes of the wealthy drops faster than the middle class and poor because the wealthy income is more dependent on dividends, stock market growth, and bonuses.

All of that means that the numbers are not coming even close to what Obama projected in his budget. We will have to have a very good 2nd half of this year for the GDP to break even, let alone grow 4%.

I'm waiting for the MSM to figure this out and start asking questions about this. I think I will be waiting a very long time for that.

Which means that there is a great opportunity here for a conservative in DC to step forward and start bringing this up in public.

687 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:20:01am

re: #671 Occasional Reader

Obviously I missed a thorough discussion of this topic already. Since I have no desire to get into a knockdown drag out argument about the situation I will leave it at this. In my opinion this was a swipe at our military. You may disagree, and that's fine, but I still feel that our veterans deserve better.

688 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:20:29am

re: #678 Nevergiveup

Yes. I bought a 200ml bottle for about $70 so I didn't have to go full nut. That was enough for 4 good pours. I very much enjoyed it.

However, I still seem to gravitate towards single malts.

689 Eowyn2  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:20:39am

Common Cold


Go hang yourself, you old M.D.!
You shall not sneer at me.
Pick up your hat and stethoscope,
Go wash your mouth with laundry soap;
I contemplate a joy exquisite
I'm not paying you for your visit.
I did not call you to be told
My malady is a common cold.

By pounding brow and swollen lip;
By fever's hot and scaly grip;
By those two red redundant eyes
That weep like woeful April skies;
By racking snuffle, snort, and sniff;
By handkerchief after handkerchief;
This cold you wave away as naught
Is the damnedest cold man ever caught!

Give ear, you scientific fossil!
Here is the genuine Cold Colossal;
The Cold of which researchers dream,
The Perfect Cold, the Cold Supreme.
This honored system humbly holds
The Super-cold to end all colds;
The Cold Crusading for Democracy;
The Führer of the Streptococcracy.

Bacilli swarm within my portals
Such as were ne'er conceived by mortals,
But bred by scientists wise and hoary
In some Olympic laboratory;
Bacteria as large as mice,
With feet of fire and heads of ice
Who never interrupt for slumber
Their stamping elephantine rumba.

A common cold, gadzooks, forsooth!
Ah, yes. And Lincoln was jostled by Booth;
Don Juan was a budding gallant,
And Shakespeare's plays show signs of talent;
The Arctic winter is fairly coolish,
And your diagnosis is fairly foolish.
Oh what a derision history holds
For the man who belittled the Cold of Colds!

690 aggieann  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:20:53am

re: #380 SixDegrees

I'd suggest a return to the avian component of this disease, renaming it the 'Goose Egg Flu.'

the aporkalypse?

691 simonml  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:21:00am

re: #682 Occasional Reader

Scotch is the armpit sweat of Satan, in my humble opinion. Bleccch.

But, different strokes, etc.

Is this a drinking thread? Even I think its a little too early and I drink a lot.

692 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:21:06am

re: #679 redstateredneck

Don't waste it by giving it to somebody who doesn't appreciate good scotch.

693 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:21:39am

re: #668 Ford_Prefect Ah Ford, you missed SO MUCH in just a few days off of LGF!
Try to find the original memo from DHS and read it before you comment further - it specified Veterans that had gotten involved with Right Wing Extremists (e.g., skinheads, neo-nazi types). Not all returning Vets and not those who had been discharged for bad conduct or anything.
Trust me, most Vietnam Vets like me are constantly on the look out for bias agains this generation's returning vets.
I thought the Memo was STUPID in that it didn't identify any particular groups of extremists, or what they might be planning to do - it was as if DHS didn't think that LE already didn't know to watch out for neo-nazi's et. al.
That it was released leaked to the MSM the day before the Tea Parties is just coincidence (yeah, right).

694 avanti  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:21:50am

re: #677 Dark_Falcon

If that pisses you avanti (and I hope it does), perhaps I can now persuade you to reconsider your support for the left.

No, I screwed up the post, and was trying to show it was from
Vanity Fair in 2007 and somehow just copied under post.

695 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:21:53am

re: #679 redstateredneck

Somebody gave us a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue. Shame we don't drink scotch.

Want my addressee and Fed Ex account #?

696 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:22:27am

re: #692 BigPapa

Don't waste it by giving it to somebody who doesn't appreciate good scotch.

We gave it to a friend who prides himself on having a well-stocked bar. He won't let anybody drink it, though.
:D

697 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:22:30am

re: #674 VioletTiger

Did I hear correctly--Timmy Geithner and Rahm Emanuel made the list of most beautiful people?

Yep, but they aren't the most offensive people in People today. For the worst offenders (and biggest media whores) click here.

698 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:22:45am

re: #674 VioletTiger

Did I hear correctly--Timmy Geithner and Rahm Emanuel made the list of most beautiful people?

I saw something like that - those are a couple of ugly muthaf^@%&@$ if I ever saw one.

699 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:22:45am

re: #682 Occasional Reader

Hm... something tells me you don't like scotch that much. Maybe you should try tequila, my most treasured spirit.

700 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:23:02am

re: #677 Dark_Falcon
Hey, fuck no - let the Left keep him - we got enough trouble on the right as it is!

701 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:23:07am

re: #693 realwest

Try to find the original memo from DHS

Shazam!

702 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:23:29am

re: #674 VioletTiger

Did I hear correctly--Timmy Geithner and Rahm Emanuel made the list of most beautiful people?

No shit, can you believe that? I"m a dude and even I can see these guys are not beautiful.

703 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:23:41am

re: #701 Occasional Reader

Shazam!

Cool. Sound effects, even!

704 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:23:54am

re: #679 redstateredneck

Somebody gave us a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue. Shame we don't drink scotch.

The stuff is crap. I'll give you $10 for it :)

705 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:24:08am

re: #681 avanti

Don't blame ABC, it was old news. Here's the first outing of the contractors from the 2007
Vanity Fair

They are still all fucking bastards and deserve to burn in hell for eternity.

706 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:24:14am

re: #682 Occasional Reader

Scotch is the armpit sweat of Satan, in my humble opinion. Bleccch.

But, different strokes, etc.

Och laddy! A Scottish curse upon you for insulting the Water of Life!

707 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:24:39am

re: #699 BigPapa

Hm... something tells me you don't like scotch that much. Maybe you should try tequila, my most treasured spirit.

Not a tequila fan, either. (Bad visceral memories of it from one night in April 1986. Really!)

About the only hard liquor I enjoy at all is vodka; and even that, I drink pretty infrequently. I'm mostly a beer and wine drinker.

708 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:24:52am

re: #650 Ford_Prefect

I am in full agreement that the VFW deserves scorn for endorsing Murtha in 2008.

The DHS memo is another story. While potentially worrisome, it does not actually say what many people are saying it says.

709 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:25:03am

re: #682 Occasional Reader

Scotch is the armpit sweat of Satan, in my humble opinion. Bleccch.

But, different strokes, etc.

Thats a little harsh for horse scrotum sweat.

710 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:25:29am

re: #694 avanti

No, I screwed up the post, and was trying to show it was from
Vanity Fair in 2007 and somehow just copied under post.

Still, that ABC would follow VF's lead on this is sickening. Do they not care that they are hurting their own country, or is that the objective? Discuss.

711 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:25:33am

re: #706 Kenneth

Och laddy! A Scottish curse upon you for insulting the Water of Life!

Addendum: Golf is pointless and boring.

Put that in your kilt and smoke it!

712 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:25:43am

Hiya, Lizard Nations!

I despise the weather forecasters!
Today, they said, it would be lovely and sunny - and now its effen grey and gloomy!
I bought some otustanding pots of geraniums to stick in my planters - heh, even Madame thinks going outside is not worth it ...

713 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:25:47am

re: #672 aggieann

That's like saying coaches only work when their teams are on the playing field, or that lawyers only work when they're in court. Teaching two courses while conducting research, serving on university committees and overseeing Ph.D. students is much more than a full-time job.

I've taught 4 in a given term and done all the rest too.

Just saying.

714 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:25:54am

re: #704 BigPapa

The stuff is crap. I'll give you $10 for it :)

Too late. We googled and said, "Damn!"

715 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:26:09am

re: #704 BigPapa

The stuff is crap. I'll give you $10 for it :)

I was in a good mood at a Camp Reunion once in a rural area. I ordered a Blue and the bar tender ran the bell. He said they ring the bell every time some Sucker- urh- costumer orders JW Blue. I think it was like 50$

716 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:26:16am

re: #678 Nevergiveup

re: #678 Nevergiveup

It must be Friday. ha

717 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:26:34am

re: #701 Occasional Reader
Good morning O.R. - DAMN, you're good! Thanks for that.

718 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:26:35am

re: #708 lurking faith

I am in full agreement that the VFW deserves scorn for endorsing Murtha in 2008.

Now THAT is downright, jaw-droppingly, "what brand of paint thinner were they huffing at the time?" astonishing.

719 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:26:47am

re: #693 realwest

This situation certainly affects you more personally than it does me, and so I respect your opinion. I suppose the issue here is one of a pattern of disrespect from this administration. Perhaps taken on its own in a vacuum this particular memo can be seen as no big deal. But, when put into context with some of the other slights that have occurred, I think it is something that needs to be addressed.

720 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:26:49am
721 UFO TOFU  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:26:59am

re: #707 Occasional Reader

You need to slip a little cognac in once in awhile; it sharpens the mind.

722 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:27:04am

re: #716 turn

you f#$#%d that up turn. oh well back to back posts about Jonny Walker Blue.

723 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:27:09am

re: #712 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nations!

I despise the weather forecasters!
Today, they said, it would be lovely and sunny - and now its effen grey and gloomy!
I bought some otustanding pots of geraniums to stick in my planters - heh, even Madame thinks going outside is not worth it ...

Maybe it's just me, but it seems that the weather guys are doing a worse job of predicting the weather than they did five years ago. They need to roll back their models.

724 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:27:16am

re: #706 Kenneth

Och laddy! A Scottish curse upon you for insulting the Water of Life!

Somebody must have started him on Laphroaig or Talisker, or worse, cheap versions of Laphroaig. That's akin to drinking decent scotch from a used ashtray.

725 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:27:21am

re: #686 3 wood

...a conservative in DC...

Call us when you find one. /

726 simonml  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:27:38am

re: #711 Occasional Reader

Addendum: Golf is pointless and boring.

Put that in your kilt and smoke it!

{Gasp!} Them's fightin' words!

727 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:27:41am

re: #707 Occasional Reader

Not a tequila fan, either. (Bad visceral memories of it from one night in April 1986. Really!)

About the only hard liquor I enjoy at all is vodka; and even that, I drink pretty infrequently. I'm mostly a beer and wine drinker.

Have you tried Tito's. Handmade in the US of A and is way better than any imported vodka (and I've had 'em all). I was a Ketel One fan before I tried Tito.

728 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:27:54am

re: #713 3 wood

I've taught 4 in a given term and done all the rest too.

Just saying.

And how many hours have you spent doing so? Just curious. The class load varies by department considerably, and a lot of classes are taught by the cheaper adjunct faculty.

729 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:28:03am

I know it's MSNBC, but this story is worth reading. Some talk show hosts are going off the cliff over swine flu and we'll all feel the political blowback. No surprise, Michael Savage is leading the charge.

730 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:28:06am

The free METRO paper featured a front page story on Biden's flu gaffes from yesterday, complete with a sidebar of his other gaffes, entitled "Times When Joe Should Have Shut Up." The point of the article was that it made The One look bad, but I still was shocked to see any paper pointing out the gaffes of this Administration, much less on the front page.

731 Sharmuta  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:28:13am

re: #720 loup-garou

I reported your comment because links to that site are not welcome here.

You're completely correct to question where you've placed your trust, however.

732 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:28:18am

re: #712 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nations!

I despise the weather forecasters!
Today, they said, it would be lovely and sunny - and now its effen grey and gloomy!
I bought some otustanding pots of geraniums to stick in my planters - heh, even Madame thinks going outside is not worth it ...

Mornin! Weatherforecasters are the only people that can be wrong more that 50% of the time and still make $150 grand. Well current politicians can make that much too...

733 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:29:01am

re: #724 BigPapa

Somebody must have started him on Laphroaig or Talisker, or worse, cheap versions of Laphroaig. That's akin to drinking decent scotch from a used ashtray.

I don't recall which ones I've tried... certainly Johnnie W. Black, and Glenfiddich... didn't like any of 'em.

734 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:29:28am

re: #711 Occasional Reader

Golf makes a lot of sense if you drink a fifth while trying to play.

Golf and scotch were created in the same place... makes sense doesn't it?

735 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:29:39am

re: #686 3 wood

Newt, are you listening to 3W?

736 simonml  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:29:43am

re: #727 redstateredneck

Have you tried Tito's. Handmade in the US of A and is way better than any imported vodka (and I've had 'em all). I was a Ketel One fan before I tried Tito.

Not just the US of A, but from the great state of Texas! Now, its from the liberal enclave of Austin, but still. What a great vodka!

737 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:29:45am

re: #694 avanti

No, I screwed up the post, and was trying to show it was from
Vanity Fair in 2007 and somehow just copied under post.

That still does not make it alright to do this.

And I'm still waiting for the indignation from the left over this to match their reaction to the Valerie Plame situation.

738 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:29:55am

re: #721 UFO TOFU

You need to slip a little cognac in once in awhile; it sharpens the mind.

Looks like you've been slippin' a little this morning, my friend!

739 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:30:19am

re: #720 loup-garou

It was.

740 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:30:22am

re: #702 turn

No shit, can you believe that? I"m a dude and even I can see these guys are not beautiful.

Can I say Geithner looks like a weasel? And he acts like a weasel.? There, I said it. Honestly, the kiss butt just never ends with the media.

741 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:30:29am

The Forgotten Element of the Fly-by?


Viewers of President Obama's prime-time press conference might have noticed a significant omission. During a hour of give-and-take with the press, there wasn't a single question about Monday's fly-by debacle in New York.

Never mind that lots of New Yorkers are still ticked. Or, that many questions about the airborne photo op remain unanswered. The White House has appointed a deputy chief of staff to look into the matter and his report will (most likely) be released on a Friday afternoon, six months from now. That's the cue for the MSM to drop the matter and let Louis Caldera hang onto his job. Not surprisingly, Mr. Obama's friends in the press corps are only too happy to comply.

Obama told the media to forget about it, and dutifully, they obey the One. But some mil-bloggers are digging into the issue and discovering some interesting facts:

Air Force sources have confirmed that the F-16s that escorted the VC-25 over Manhattan are assigned to the Alabama Air National Guard, not the D.C. Guard as the AP (and other media outlets) originally reported.

The distance from Dannelly Field in Montgomery (where the F-16s are based) is roughly 750 miles from New York City. According to the Pentagon, the fighters logged just under four hours of flight time during their mission. During that time, they burned as much as 20,000 pounds of fuel, based on an optimal cruise speed and a configuration that included two external tanks.

...there was at least one in-flight refueling as a part of the mission--and possibly two--requiring at least one tanker aircraft. So, factor in the added expense of a KC-135 or KC-10 and its crew. At the beginning of this decade, the cost of each Stratotanker flying hour was pegged at more than $10,000. Operating a KC-10 is even more expensive, just over $13,000 an hour. Multiply that cost by three to five hours, the typical length of a tanker sortie.

That may not seem like much, considering the total bill for the photo-op was at least $300,000. But it also shows a level of planning (and support) that the White House hasn't discussed.

Will the forthcoming White House report discuss those issues? Don't bet on it.

742 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:30:33am

A very illuminating business analysis:
UK blue chips ‘have lagged behind under Labour’
Yep - even in the boom years from 1997 to last year, Labour managed the economy in such a way that the index was much lower than under Maggie and John Major ...

743 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:30:37am

re: #737 3 wood

That still does not make it alright to do this.

And I'm still waiting for the indignation from the left over this to match their reaction to the Valerie Plame situation.

HA!

744 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:30:40am

re: #734 BigPapa

Golf makes a lot of sense if you drink a fifth while trying to play.

Golf and scotch were created in the same place... makes sense doesn't it?

Not to mention haggis. Drinking heavily is key to understanding Scottish culture.

745 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:30:42am

re: #710 Dark_Falcon

Do they not care that they are hurting their own country, or is that the objective? Discuss.

It's the objective.

746 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:30:43am

re: #708 lurking faith The VFW endorsed John Fucking Murtha? What?!
Stupid mofo's - and the American Legion didn't want anything at all to do with most of us returning Vietnam Vets - til their membership (mostly WWII Vets) started dying off; now I get some piece of crap from them every month. IN SPITE OF MY EXPLCIT LETTER telling 'em how I feel about 'em.
Now I've got something to use on the VFW!

747 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:30:48am

re: #720 loup-garou

Robert Spencer started it with his support for fascists. Also, in the future, you shouldn't post links to jihadwatch here. Charles doesn't like them and he tends to delete posts containing them.

748 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:30:49am

re: #723 vxbush

Maybe it's just me, but it seems that the weather guys are doing a worse job of predicting the weather than they did five years ago. They need to roll back their models.

I go with Joe Bastardi.

749 avanti  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:31:32am

re: #710 Dark_Falcon

Still, that ABC would follow VF's lead on this is sickening. Do they not care that they are hurting their own country, or is that the objective? Discuss.

The news is the news. With few exceptions, I want to know what my government is up to. I'm sure some were upset with Watergate exposure, the Mai Lai massacre exposure or going after Clinton, since all of those "hurt the country".

750 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:31:38am

re: #727 redstateredneck

Have you tried Tito's. Handmade in the US of A and is way better than any imported vodka (and I've had 'em all). I was a Ketel One fan before I tried Tito.

Why would I want someone's hands in my vodka?

/

No, I've heard of Tito's but haven't tried it. I have a bottle of Ketel One in the fridge at the moment; that'll last until, oh, 2010, probably. Like I said, I don't drink it much.

The most amazing vodka I've tried is Stolichnaya Elit, at the insistence of former LGFer Jheka. It's a little hard to find, though.

751 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:32:04am

re: #734 BigPapa

Golf makes a lot of sense if you drink a fifth while trying to play.

Golf and scotch were created in the same place... makes sense doesn't it?

I thought they invented scotch in order to wash down the haggis?

752 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:32:21am

re: #737 3 wood

Don't hold your breath.

753 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:32:21am

re: #733 Occasional Reader

I don't recall which ones I've tried... certainly Johnnie W. Black, and Glenfiddich... didn't like any of 'em.

That's ok, sonny. You go on and sip your Cosmopolitans. Leave the scotch for real men.

754 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:32:40am

re: #744 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Great Minds, etc.

755 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:33:01am

re: #736 simonml

Not just the US of A, but from the great state of Texas! Now, its from the liberal enclave of Austin, but still. What a great vodka!

They really need to improve the look of their labeling. Looks like they printed it on a brown paper sack. Does not do justice to the fine product in the bottle.

756 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:33:17am

re: #711 Occasional Reader

Addendum: Golf is pointless and boring.

Put that in your kilt and smoke it!

EGADS ! Blasphemy !
A pox on all your short putts !

757 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:33:43am

re: #745 3 wood

It's the objective.

I agree. If we get the chance, we need new laws that make journalistic outing of people in this matter a felony.

758 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:33:48am

re: #734 BigPapa

Golf makes a lot of sense if you drink a fifth while trying to play.

Golf and scotch were created in the same place... makes sense doesn't it?

Also bagpipes and haggis.
I'll take the scotch.

759 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:34:11am

re: #737 3 wood

Don't hold your breath.

760 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:34:11am

re: #753 Kenneth

That's ok, sonny. You go on and sip your Cosmopolitans. Leave the scotch for real men.

Like, helllooo, it's a "Flirtini", you bitch!

761 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:34:12am

re: #723 vxbush

Maybe it's just me, but it seems that the weather guys are doing a worse job of predicting the weather than they did five years ago. They need to roll back their models.

I think its because they're all sitting in offices, looking at their computers - and then just get up and speak to the TV cameras.
They have no personal experience why wind speed and direction might be important, and why we're not all going to curse them if they don't 'deliver' sunshine!

As for the weathergirls ... words fail me!

762 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:34:44am

"Scottish cuisine began as a dare." - Mike Myers

763 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:35:08am

re: #749 avanti It isn't the news that I have trouble with, it is the heavy doses of partisan editorializing while claiming objectivity and the tendency to bury stories that don't fit the agenda driven template.

764 avanti  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:35:23am

re: #737 3 wood

That still does not make it alright to do this.

And I'm still waiting for the indignation from the left over this to match their reaction to the Valerie Plame situation.

It's a different story. One was someone in the government outing a CIA agent, the other was the press reporting on contract advisers to the CIA. If someone in the BHO White House outs a agent, you can be sure I'd condemn it.

765 simonml  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:35:26am

re: #755 redstateredneck

They really need to improve the look of their labeling. Looks like they printed it on a brown paper sack. Does not do justice to the fine product in the bottle.

Look at their website. They show a parked RV, outbuildings under construction and some flat Texas country. I think the label plays into their "humble" trappings

766 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:35:35am

re: #728 vxbush

And how many hours have you spent doing so? Just curious. The class load varies by department considerably, and a lot of classes are taught by the cheaper adjunct faculty.

The class prep was minor cause I could give the lectures in my sleep. I set up the tests so they were quick to grade, had some done on-line. It's possible to get amore efficient is all I'm saying

767 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:35:37am

re: #749 avanti

With few exceptions, I want to know what my government is up to.

So you think you have a "right" to know the names of CIA operatives?

768 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:35:47am

re: #761 yma o hyd

I think its because they're all sitting in offices, looking at their computers - and then just get up and speak to the TV cameras.
They have no personal experience why wind speed and direction might be important, and why we're not all going to curse them if they don't 'deliver' sunshine!

As for the weathergirls ... words fail me!

Oh, man. Some of them obviously never really earned that college degree.

769 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:35:49am

re: #720 loup-garou
Ah, I think Charles would prefer that we not link to that site.And frankly now that you have, the "aroma" in this thread is frankly much worse than it was. Leave the little shits alone or e-mail Charles if you think it's newsworthy but let's not let them get hits from us, ok?

770 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:35:50am

re: #749 avanti

The news is the news. With few exceptions, I want to know what my government is up to. I'm sure some were upset with Watergate exposure, the Mai Lai massacre exposure or going after Clinton, since all of those "hurt the country".

This, avanti is one of the exceptions. On this issue, nothing should have been said at all. The CIA needs to be able to interrogate terrorists without the public knowing what's going on.

771 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:36:02am

re: #712 yma o hyd

Hi yma, my uncle used to grow geraniums that had fragrance, mint and even chocolate IIRC. Give Madame a pet for turn.

772 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:36:07am

re: #751 Occasional Reader

I think that haggis actually has a little scotch in it.

krinkle up your face and say in a strained contorted over breathy voice: "SMOOOTH!"

773 Sharmuta  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:36:07am

re: #747 Dark_Falcon

Robert Spencer started it with his support for fascists. Also, in the future, you shouldn't post links to jihadwatch here. Charles doesn't like them and he tends to delete posts containing them.

Not just support for fascists, but outright lying and conspiracy theory madness.

loup-garou should also consider how is continually attacking Charles stopping jihad?

774 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:36:08am

re: #676 BigPapa

Actually, I am not much of a scotch drinker myself. I have on occasion enjoyed scotch at someone else's home, but I haven't yet put in the effort and investment needed to figure out what kinds of scotch I prefer.

It's much easier to learn what kinds of wine I like without having to spend a fortune. Lots of stores do wine tastings, but not scotch tastings. :}

775 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:36:10am

re: #732 bolivar

Mornin! Weatherforecasters are the only people that can be wrong more that 50% of the time and still make $150 grand. Well current politicians can make that much too...

Hiya - well, I heard this:
'Economsts were invented to make weather forecasters look good.'

So there we are - we're doomed, I tellsya, doomed!

776 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:36:13am

re: #701 Occasional Reader

Shazam!

OK. I read it. You are right that it does talk specifically about the recruitment of veterans by right-wing extremist groups. However, what about this?

The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.

That would seem to imply that the returning vets may actually be responsible for starting groups or acting on their own.

777 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:36:24am

re: #734 BigPapa

Golf makes a lot of sense if you drink a fifth while trying to play.

Golf and scotch were created in the same place... makes sense doesn't it?


golf, Cigars and cold beer..A sport made in Heaven.

778 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:36:31am

re: #752 rightside

GMTA. Just a couple minutes slower though. :-)

779 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:37:04am

re: #746 realwest

The VFW endorsed John Fucking Murtha? What?!

Yes, it's in the article that I linked to in my original post.

780 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:37:35am

re: #768 vxbush

Oh, man. Some of them obviously never really earned that college degree.

That isn't true. I'm sure a lot of them spent plenty of time on their hands and knees doing hard work. /

781 avanti  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:38:24am

re: #763 DaddyG

It isn't the news that I have trouble with, it is the heavy doses of partisan editorializing while claiming objectivity and the tendency to bury stories that don't fit the agenda driven template.

No question, the press is liberal, and it shows in their biased coverage. So are college professors too, but it's just a political fact of life, just like most churches are conservative.

782 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:38:30am

re: #766 3 wood

Thanks for recommending that Marketwatch site to me a few weeks ago. I find it a very valuable resource for understanding what's going on with the economy. It's a little over my head sometimes but there's very little bullshit there. It's a rare treasure these days.

783 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:38:44am

re: #764 avanti

It's a different story. One was someone in the government outing a CIA agent, the other was the press reporting on contract advisers to the CIA. If someone in the BHO White House outs a agent, you can be sure I'd condemn it.


Oh my...

You just had the BHO White House release top secret documents against the advice of former and current CIA directors.

Is your worship of Obama that blind?

784 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:39:03am

re: #772 BigPapa

I think that haggis actually has a little scotch in it.

krinkle up your face and say in a strained contorted over breathy voice: "SMOOOTH!"

Ever see the now-famous Jagermeister print ad to that effect? "So Smooth". Hilarious.

785 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:39:21am

re: #764 avanti

It's a different story. One was someone in the government outing a CIA agent, the other was the press reporting on contract advisers to the CIA. If someone in the BHO White House outs a agent, you can be sure I'd condemn it.

Oh please stop splitting hairs. And old Plume was no front line agent. She has a freak en desk job in Washington going to all the left wing cocktail parties with her husband. Please!

786 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:39:22am

re: #768 vxbush

Oh, man. Some of them obviously never really earned that college degree.

They do look pretty, though.
Mind, its a shame they never had proper elocution lessons and voice training.
I hate to be screeched at, first thing in the morning!
And as for their dress sense - gawd, even Michelle would do better!

787 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:39:25am

re: #760 Occasional Reader

Like, helllooo, it's a "Flirtini", you bitch!

Oh that's right. Which one is you again?

OR & his BFFs enjoying flirtinis

788 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:39:41am

re: #777 HoosierHoops

golf, Cigars and cold beer..A sport made in Heaven.

That's Hawaiian style golf, of which I'm a black belt in.

789 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:39:45am

re: #773 Sharmuta

Not just support for fascists, but outright lying and conspiracy theory madness.

loup-garou should also consider how is continually attacking Charles stopping jihad?

He hasn't posted a reply and he has fewer than 100 comments in more than two years. That bears monitoring. I'm not suggesting anything other than that, but we should keep our eyes on that poster.

790 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:40:05am

re: #783 3 wood

Oh my...

You just had the BHO White House release top secret documents against the advice of former and current CIA directors.

Is your worship of Obama that blind?

Why are you using a question mark?

791 simonml  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:40:12am

re: #755 redstateredneck

They really need to improve the look of their labeling. Looks like they printed it on a brown paper sack. Does not do justice to the fine product in the bottle.

Also if their website tells the truth, the founder's name is Tito Beveridge. Distilling must be in his blood.

792 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:40:19am

re: #786 yma o hyd

They do look pretty, though.
Mind, its a shame they never had proper elocution lessons and voice training.
I hate to be screeched at, first thing in the morning!
And as for their dress sense - gawd, even Michelle would do better!

Meow, dear. :D

793 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:40:22am

re: #783 3 wood

Oh my...

You just had the BHO White House release top secret documents against the advice of former and current CIA directors.

Is your worship of Obama that blind?

Let's face it... Obama is at war with the principles and values we were founded upon. They are in direct opposition to everything he has been taught and what he has grown up living and experiencing...

794 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:40:33am

re: #776 Ford_Prefect

That would seem to imply that the returning vets may actually be responsible for starting groups or acting on their own.

I agree that that particular line was not exactly a good one.

Overall, the drafting of the DHS memo is incredibly sloppy.

795 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:40:38am

re: #720 loup-garou

The associations taint whatever Spencer has done in research. Charles doesn't care for links from JihadWatch here, but I think he may make a reply today. It's funny that Spencer should call Charles a "dhim-wit" when Spencer can't see the fascists for the trees he associates with.

796 aggieann  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:40:50am

re: #736 simonml

Not just the US of A, but from the great state of Texas! Now, its from the liberal enclave of Austin, but still. What a great vodka!

The current Texas Monthly has an article about Tito. It's not online and I don't have it handy to quote from, but it's very interesting. Someone told him that if he could develop an unflavored vodka that women would drink straight, he would have a huge market.

He's also a hard worker. He built the business from scratch and at one time did it all--the bottling, transporting, unloading crates, etc. Can't remember now how many cases he sells a year, but I believe it's over 200,000.

797 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:41:16am

re: #728 {vxbush}
Ah, excuse me, but Adjunct Faculty is paid less, but we were NEVER "cheaper". I've taught 3 three hour courses a week as an adjunct two semesters and two 3 hour courses in the summer semester, I worked VERY HARD at my teaching craft thankew very much and it's UTTER BULLSHIT to think that teaching two full time courses (3 credit hours a week) and going to some faculty or other types of meetings amounts to anything remotely like a full time job.

798 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:41:31am

re: #791 simonml The only Tito Beveridge I'm aware of is milk. /

799 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:41:34am

re: #771 turn

Hi yma, my uncle used to grow geraniums that had fragrance, mint and even chocolate IIRC. Give Madame a pet for turn.

Hiya, turn!
Yes, tehre are fantastic geranium specialities - such as your uncle grew.
I'm afraid I only go for the 'stick-in-the-ground-and-forget-about-it' varieties! Thing is - the slugs and snails leave them alone ...

Madame says thank you - and how is your big dog doing?

800 Sharmuta  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:42:11am

re: #795 Honorary Yooper

The associations taint whatever Spencer has done in research. Charles doesn't care for links from JihadWatch here, but I think he may make a reply today. It's funny that Spencer should call Charles a "dhim-wit" when Spencer can't see the fascists for the trees he associates with.

Tut tut! They're not fascists- robert was told as much. In fact- he's so sure they're not fascists he cancelled speaking to them. Seems logical to me. ///

801 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:42:13am

Happy Friday everyone!

I have a great outdoor gig tomorrow. Hope it doesn't rain.

802 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:42:15am

re: #775 yma o hyd

Hiya - well, I heard this:
'Economsts were invented to make weather forecasters look good.'

So there we are - we're doomed, I tellsya, doomed!

If you set all the economists in the world from end to end, you still could not reach a conclusion.

803 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:43:20am

re: #792 vxbush

Meow, dear. :D

Meowing keeps one young - in mind and fashion sense, if not in body ...

:-)))

804 KenJen  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:43:25am

Mint julep anyone? Its Derby-time in Louisville. To bad it's raining and gloomy. Huge stars are in town like Valerie Bertonellie, Joe Piscopo and Kim Kardashian./

805 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:44:13am

re: #804 KenJen

Can you take a pic of KK for me?

806 jcm  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:44:13am

Accurate reproduction of note in school door in WA, State.

ATTENTION! URGENT!
ANOUBCEMENT TO ALL STAFFS AND PARENTS OF MADRONA K-8 UNDER THE ADVISE OF HEALTH OFFICIAL,BECAUSE OF A "SUSPICIOUS'FLU CASE, THAT MAY BE SWINE FLU,SCHOOL WILL BE CLOSED 4/30 TO 5/07/09.FOR INFO PLEASE CALL #

Nope, no problems in the educational system that more money won't fix.

807 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:44:33am

re: #737 3 wood

That still does not make it alright to do this.

And I'm still waiting for the indignation from the left over this to match their reaction to the Valerie Plame situation.

Hey, don't hold your breath my friend. It's perfectly acceptable I gather for the Left to go completely off the fucking rails, but if a "rightist" says something remotely controversial (like "lets have a Tea Party to protest higher taxes") then that is worthy of scorn in some quarters - mostly avanti's.

808 Sharmuta  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:44:49am

re: #789 Dark_Falcon

He hasn't posted a reply and he has fewer than 100 comments in more than two years. That bears monitoring. I'm not suggesting anything other than that, but we should keep our eyes on that poster.

I think for some folks, realizing what's really going on with this situation isn't as easy to see as it was for others. Someone is now questioning where they've placed their trust. I think they should, and I don't want to make them more uncomfortable than the truth is likely already doing.

809 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:45:05am

re: #797 realwest

Ah, excuse me, but Adjunct Faculty is paid less, but we were NEVER "cheaper". I've taught 3 three hour courses a week as an adjunct two semesters and two 3 hour courses in the summer semester, I worked VERY HARD at my teaching craft thankew very much and it's UTTER BULLSHIT to think that teaching two full time courses (3 credit hours a week) and going to some faculty or other types of meetings amounts to anything remotely like a full time job.

No disrespect to you, sir; I know adjunct faculty who teach just one class to faculty that teach 5 classes a semester. And some of those people are also working on Ph.D's at the same time. I know, "cheaper" was a poor word choice. But compared to a full-time Ph.D. faculty member, it is cheaper per calendar year.

I taught myself, and I saw how much time the Ph.D's spent talking around the coffee maker. But I also know Ph.D.s who intentionally take a heavier course load so they can free up time for those who are tenure track and need to focus on setting up their research credentials so they can get tenured themselves. It really depends on the individual.

810 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:45:13am

re: #806 jcm

Accurate reproduction of note in school door in WA, State.


Nope, no problems in the educational system that more money won't fix.

People are really jumping off the deep end on this flu thing...

811 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:45:38am

re: #806 jcm

They even misspelled "anoobcement", which is of course internet parlance for a noob announcing his/her entry to a forum.

/

812 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:45:45am

Coming soon to a mass transit system near you.

DHS tests bomb-proof CCTV by blowing up bus


813 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:45:59am

New York teen Brittanee Drexel had "her mind set" on spring break in Myrtle Beach, S.C. Her mom didn't want her to go — but the strong-willed 17-year-old from Rochester, N.Y., went anyway.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

What is going on here with the parents? Maybe I'm square, but I'd lock my kid in the closet before I let her go away like that.

814 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:46:25am

re: #806 jcm

Accurate reproduction of note in school door in WA, State.

Nope, no problems in the educational system that more money won't fix.

You mean that was a real sign and not one a 1st grader put up so he could get out of school?

815 lawhawk  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:46:32am

re: #706 Kenneth

Och laddy! A Scottish curse upon you for insulting the Water of Life!

Water of life? /Kwisatz Haderach!

816 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:46:37am

re: #711 Occasional Reader

Addendum: Golf is pointless and boring.

Put that in your kilt and smoke it!

I'll bet you don't appreciate a good bagpiper, either, ye daft owd coot!

817 badger1970  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:46:56am

re: #804 KenJen

Who? Just kidding but IIRC it's
1) "One Day at a Time" and the ex Ms. Van Halen,
2)"SNL", "Sniglets" and one time body builder
but cannot recall who Kim Kardashian is.

818 simonml  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:47:14am

re: #798 DaddyG

The only Tito Beveridge I'm aware of is milk. /

LOL. Drink of choice of La Leche, right?

819 Kronocide  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:47:18am

Honco goodbyes, have to go to work so I can pay for the stimulus. Plus, I feel the pull of getting sucked in to a more serious discussion.

Aloha

820 aggieann  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:47:34am

re: #797 realwest

it's UTTER BULLSHIT to think that teaching two full time courses (3 credit hours a week) and going to some faculty or other types of meetings amounts to anything remotely like a full time job.

I beg to differ. For faculty at research universities, teaching is only a small portion of the job (and don't forget that two classes can easily mean 700 students). They're also applying for and fulfilling grants, overseeing grad students, running labs, conducting research, getting published in peer-reviewed journals, etc.

821 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:47:38am

re: #814 Kosh's Shadow

You mean that was a real sign and not one a 1st grader put up so he could get out of school?

Hey, it was signed "Juan Epstein's Mother", how much more authentic can you get?

822 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:48:01am

re: #800 Sharmuta

Tut tut! They're not fascists- robert was told as much. In fact- he's so sure they're not fascists he cancelled speaking to them. Seems logical to me. ///

Heh.

I am very certain Spencer knows who they are and what they stand for (as do Bodissey and Dymphna). The support I've seen there for the Serbian nationalists alludes to this. It's disgusting that they can support these Eurofascists when they've been shown over and over again by the actions and words of the Eurofascists as to who they are. We saw, and we heeded the signs.

823 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:48:34am

re: #794 Occasional Reader

I agree that that particular line was not exactly a good one.

Overall, the drafting of the DHS memo is incredibly sloppy.

Definitely. They seem to be flailing for people to watch out for. And it is very interesting how focused it is on the right, particularly people who oppose gun legislation.

824 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:48:36am

re: #812 Bubblehead II

Coming soon to a mass transit system near you.

DHS tests bomb-proof CCTV by blowing up bus Reminds me of the old "why don't they just make the whole plane out of the black box stuff?" joke.

Youtube Video

825 jcm  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:48:37am

re: #810 tfc3rid

People are really jumping off the deep end on this flu thing...

OHMYGOD! IF I DON'T GET THIS SIGN POSTED WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!

826 avanti  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:48:48am

re: #767 Occasional Reader

So you think you have a "right" to know the names of CIA operatives?

No, and that's why the political outing of Plame was wrong. The press covering a torture story that reports on two physiologists paid $1000 a day to advise the CIA is not outing a agent, or even a employee of the CIA. The press investigation found out the contractors did not have the experience they claimed to have had, and the CIA decided there advice could not be relied on.

827 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:49:20am

re: #782 Killgore Trout

Thanks for recommending that Marketwatch site to me a few weeks ago. I find it a very valuable resource for understanding what's going on with the economy. It's a little over my head sometimes but there's very little bullshit there. It's a rare treasure these days.

You are welcome, glad to be of help.

Hey, I've got a question for you. The other day there was a discussion of the coming inflation and you said something about how you suspected that "they" had a plan for dealing with inflation.

It is really hard to get high inflation back down once it's started, and there is no easy way to do it.

Any idea what would those plans might be, and who "they" are?

828 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:49:37am

re: #820 aggieann

I beg to differ. For faculty at research universities, teaching is only a small portion of the job (and don't forget that two classes can easily mean 700 students). They're also applying for and fulfilling grants, overseeing grad students, running labs, conducting research, getting published in peer-reviewed journals, etc.

Of course, in those big classes, they have grad students doing the grading. (I was one of the grad students; I've also been adjunct faculty, and teach part-time online)

829 KenJen  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:49:45am

re: #805 rightside

My camera doesn't have panoramic view for her ass. Sorry.

830 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:49:56am

FYI, tonight at 5 on the FNC, Glenn Beck's whole hour will be on the Tea Parties, exposing the Mainstream Media Lies...

I mention it because he is asking for questions to be submitted. This morning on his radio show he actually had a question from someone who asked how far right wing groups and individuals can hurt the tea party movement.

831 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:50:00am

re: #826 avanti

No, and that's why the political outing of Plame was wrong. The press covering a torture story that reports on two physiologists paid $1000 a day to advise the CIA is not outing a agent, or even a employee of the CIA. The press investigation found out the contractors did not have the experience they claimed to have had, and the CIA decided there advice could not be relied on.

That's the second time you made that allegation that they didn't have the experience they claimed to have? Proof?

832 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:50:48am

re: #825 jcm

OHMYGOD! IF I DON'T GET THIS SIGN POSTED WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!

AHHH!

God help us alll! Riding the subway today I realized I did not take Broadway Joe Biden's advice...

833 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:50:51am

re: #830 tfc3rid

FYI, tonight at 5 on the FNC, Glenn Beck's whole hour will be on the Tea Parties, exposing the Mainstream Media Lies...

I mention it because he is asking for questions to be submitted. This morning on his radio show he actually had a question from someone who asked how far right wing groups and individuals can hurt the tea party movement.


Did he answer or brush it off?

834 aggieann  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:50:51am

re: #828 Kosh's Shadow

Of course, in those big classes, they have grad students doing the grading. (I was one of the grad students; I've also been adjunct faculty, and teach part-time online)

Yes, I know. I've been there, too.

835 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:51:02am

re: #808 Sharmuta

I think for some folks, realizing what's really going on with this situation isn't as easy to see as it was for others. Someone is now questioning where they've placed their trust. I think they should, and I don't want to make them more uncomfortable than the truth is likely already doing.

Agreed. That's why I said keep you eyes open, but declined to pass any judgments on the poster. I take your point though.

836 KenJen  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:51:29am

re: #817 badger1970

Who? Just kidding but IIRC it's
1) "One Day at a Time" and the ex Ms. Van Halen,
2)"SNL", "Sniglets" and one time body builder
but cannot recall who Kim Kardashian is.

Oh. I forgot Paris Hilton is here to. Whooppee!

837 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:51:35am

re: #799 yma o hyd

I'm way upthread this AM. Luke is doing good, back to peak shape after that cut paw. It's tick season and I've already plucked two off of me (turn hates ticks). I use "Advantage" on the boob, man that shit works good. I was commenting the other day about how he "helps" me garden by poking his nose in when I plant n the garden. On a walk along the American the other day I was snapping a close up picture of this pretty purple thissle and ended up with half a nose and one eye in it. ha

838 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:52:23am

re: #830 tfc3rid

FYI, tonight at 5 on the FNC, Glenn Beck's whole hour will be on the Tea Parties, exposing the Mainstream Media Lies...

I mention it because he is asking for questions to be submitted. This morning on his radio show he actually had a question from someone who asked how far right wing groups and individuals can hurt the tea party movement.

Did his head explode?

839 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:52:25am

re: #822 Honorary Yooper

Heh.

I am very certain Spencer knows who they are and what they stand for (as do Bodissey and Dymphna). The support I've seen there for the Serbian nationalists alludes to this. It's disgusting that they can support these Eurofascists when they've been shown over and over again by the actions and words of the Eurofascists as to who they are. We saw, and we heeded the signs.

I find it interesting how in the linked article (not repeating it here), they try to tar Charles with being liked by CAIR (yes, they try).
A better analogy would be the way CAIR says they're moderate, but have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood (or related groups). Spencer, et al, claim to purely be anti-Jihad, and not fascist, but they have ties to fascist groups.

840 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:52:46am

re: #837 turn

I use "Advantage" on the boob

[gentlemen, start your engines]

841 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:52:59am

re: #833 VioletTiger

Did he answer or brush it off?

He answered that far right and far left surely can hijack events like these. It's natural. You see major far left causes hijack the anti-war movement.

Basically said that it is not helpful but we are a free nation and can gather ans speak freely... But said that if you disagree, make your ideas known or ignore them. It's better to engage in debate than scream at one another.

842 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:53:22am

re: #770 Dark_Falcon

This, avanti is one of the exceptions. On this issue, nothing should have been said at all. The CIA needs to be able to interrogate terrorists without the public knowing what's going on.


Not to mention the fact that these two guys were PRIVATE CITIZENS -contract employees for the CIA.
They could sue Vanity Fair and ABC, I suppose if any of those deranged Leftists hassled them or their families.

843 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:53:23am

re: #840 Occasional Reader

[gentlemen, start your engines]

ha, boob thread!

844 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:53:55am

re: #842 realwest

Not to mention the fact that these two guys were PRIVATE CITIZENS -contract employees for the CIA.
They could sue Vanity Fair and ABC, I suppose if any of those deranged Leftists hassled them or their families.

Former military I believe as well...

845 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:54:31am

re: #791 simonml

Also if their website tells the truth, the founder's name is Tito Beveridge. Distilling must be in his blood.

Born Burt Butler Beveridge, II

846 Sharmuta  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:54:49am

re: #839 Kosh's Shadow

I find it interesting how in the linked article (not repeating it here), they try to tar Charles with being liked by CAIR (yes, they try).
A better analogy would be the way CAIR says they're moderate, but have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood (or related groups). Spencer, et al, claim to purely be anti-Jihad, and not fascist, but they have ties to fascist groups.

I found it ironic they bemoaned the "guilt by association" concerning spencer and the euro-fascists, then turn around and use guilt by association concerning Charles and CAIR. Hypocritical, and it STILL doesn't address the fact spencer was invited to speak to nazis and only declined because he felt the heat.

847 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:55:13am

re: #841 tfc3rid

He answered that far right and far left surely can hijack events like these. It's natural. You see major far left causes hijack the anti-war movement.

Basically said that it is not helpful but we are a free nation and can gather ans speak freely... But said that if you disagree, make your ideas known or ignore them. It's better to engage in debate than scream at one another.

That's a reasonable answer. And at least Beck hasn't gone nuts over swine flu like some others. His segment on O'Reilly's show last night on that topic was actually reasonable and restrained.

848 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:55:15am

re: #817 badger1970

Who? Just kidding but IIRC it's
1) "One Day at a Time" and the ex Ms. Van Halen,
2)"SNL", "Sniglets" and one time body builder
but cannot recall who Kim Kardashian is.

That was Rich Hall & don't ask me how I can remember that but forget where I parked the car.

849 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:55:34am

re: #792 vxbush

Meow, dear. :D

and the saucer of milk award goes to...yma!

850 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:55:38am

Wow... A liquor producer name Beveridge... That's like an ice cream man named Cone.

851 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:55:44am

re: #826 avanti

No, and that's why the political outing by the Washington Post of Plame was wrong.

FIFY

852 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:55:48am

re: #837 turn

I'm way upthread this AM. Luke is doing good, back to peak shape after that cut paw. It's tick season and I've already plucked two off of me (turn hates ticks). I use "Advantage" on the boob, man that shit works good. I was commenting the other day about how he "helps" me garden by poking his nose in when I plant n the garden. On a walk along the American the other day I was snapping a close up picture of this pretty purple thissle and ended up with half a nose and one eye in it. ha

Ticks are a real plague! We've used 'Frontline', and that helped a lot.
Ticks go for certain bodymass/temperature. thus Big Dog always got them - we had to have a nightly 'tick-patrol' to get them all sprayed - but Madam, being so much smaller, never had any!
As for Nose and eye getting in the picture - thats not bad!
When I took piccies of outstanding trees, many was the time where afterwards I found Big Dog had started to cock his leg just as I was pressing the shutter-release ...!

853 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:55:57am

re: #746 realwest

The VFW endorsed John Fucking Murtha? What?!
Stupid mofo's - and the American Legion didn't want anything at all to do with most of us returning Vietnam Vets - til their membership (mostly WWII Vets) started dying off; now I get some piece of crap from them every month. IN SPITE OF MY EXPLCIT LETTER telling 'em how I feel about 'em.
Now I've got something to use on the VFW!

Here's a blog entry from thisainthell, Oct. 2008.
[Link: thisainthell.us...]

854 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:56:44am

re: #827 3 wood

Any idea what would those plans might be, and who "they" are?

I have absolutely no clue. I'm a neophyte when it comes to economics and I have only a very basic understanding of inflation. However, I don't think the Fed, the Treasury and this administration are quite as stupid and bumbling as right wing pundits paint them. I seriously doubt they are flying blind. Their plans might not work but I assume they wil do whatever with the money supply and interest rates (or whatever) to attempt to deal with inflation when the time comes. I'm very skeptical of all the doomsday claims floating around that an economic apocalypse is unavoidable. People making those claims have their own agenda. I've decided to cheer on this administration and I wish them the best on repairing the economy.

855 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:57:10am

re: #813 Nevergiveup

What is going on here with the parents? Maybe I'm square, but I'd lock my kid in the closet before I let her go away like that.

Here is the problem in a nutshell:

"I just said no, you're not going," Drexel said. "But when she gets her mind set on something, she just wants to do it, and that's it. I'm pretty positive she had left Wednesday night."

1. You have to demonstrate to your children that the word no means something. Preferably prior to age 17.
2. No 17 year old should be able to out-stubborn a grown adult. Giving up on parenting when it becomes difficult is stupid-lazy.
3. "I'm pretty positive she had left..." means they didn't even know what was going on in their own house. I don't care what age you are if you still live with your parents common decency says you go to bed at a decent hour and keep your family informed about your comings and goings.

I can't claim that I've never had a child pull a fast one or fail to keep me in the loop, but some parents need to have some higher expectations for their children's behavior. Sadly, tragically their relaxed discipline may have cost this child her life. (Although I pray it has not).

856 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:57:24am

re: #842 realwest

Not to mention the fact that these two guys were PRIVATE CITIZENS -contract employees for the CIA.
They could sue Vanity Fair and ABC, I suppose if any of those deranged Leftists hassled them or their families.

It's not the leftists I'm worried about. The Islamists might also try something. And even without harassment, this might get them sued, and it will certainly prevent them from travel to a good many countries from now on.

857 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:57:46am

re: #849 redstateredneck

and the saucer of milk award goes to...yma!

Thanks!

:-))


(I can't help meself - I blame my granny! She brought me up that way!)

858 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:58:21am

re: #817 badger1970 Count yourself as fortunate. My teenage daughters introduced me to her car wreck of a reality show. Fortunately for me they watch it as an example of what not to behave like.

859 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:58:23am

re: #850 tfc3rid

Wow... A liquor producer name Beveridge... That's like an ice cream man named Cone.

No, a liquor producer named Bottle would be like an ice cream man named Cone. A liquor man named Beveridge is more like an ice cream man named Dessert.

Let's get our similes right! /

860 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:58:23am

re: #857 yma o hyd

Thanks!

:-))

(I can't help meself - I blame my granny! She brought me up that way!)

Typical white Grandmother, eh?

861 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:58:26am

re: #794 Occasional Reader

I agree that that particular line was not exactly a good one.

Overall, the drafting of the DHS memo is incredibly sloppy.


Well that's what happens when you draft a document in a hurry - had to get it leaked to the media before the Tea Parties doncha know! (and yes I know that the work on that - as a possible issue of domestic violence was begun under Bush, but it sure as hell wasn't finished by Bush nor leaked to the Media by the Bush administration either.

862 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:58:30am

Later... must finish some things.

863 jcm  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:58:55am

re: #826 avanti

No, and that's why the political outing of Plame was wrong. The press covering a torture story that reports on two physiologists paid $1000 a day to advise the CIA is not outing a agent, or even a employee of the CIA. The press investigation found out the contractors did not have the experience they claimed to have had, and the CIA decided there advice could not be relied on.

Plame was a frakkin' witch hunt. Early on Fitzgerald knew two things, who dropped Plame's name, and that it wasn't a crime. Yet he continued until he got Libby in contradictory statements. Should her name have been dropped? No. But beyond that it was a congressional witch hunt.

The contractors were working legally, on legal project, which had been authorized by the executive and legislative branch. If the CIA didn't do their homework on the contractors qualifications, that may be a story. But in the current climate it's not a reason to name the contractors names. The media frequently with holds names until charges are filed.

864 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:59:06am

re: #852 yma o hyd

oh man, my hound dawg can piss that's for sure. Try Advantage, it really works.

865 Zimriel  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:59:08am

re: #770 Dark_Falcon

This, avanti is one of the exceptions. On this issue, nothing should have been said at all. The CIA needs to be able to interrogate terrorists without the public knowing what's going on.

I'm not going THAT far, on a policy basis, but I will say that my list of need-to-know-basis information, which I do not need to know, includes the names of the specific consultants doing which specific jobs. Psychologists and lawyers are private citizens and should not be outed for doing jobs which were legal at the time.

And avanti's initial reaction, "it's okay if ABC did it because Vanity Fair did it first", was about the most disgraceful attempt at misdirection I've seen on LGF. The point isn't when it happened or which arm of the Left media did it; the point is that it happened at all.

866 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 1, 2009 7:59:22am

I see Spencer has his little midget panties in a twist again this morning.

867 Sharmuta  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:00:08am

re: #866 Killgore Trout

I see Spencer has his little midget panties in a twist again this morning.

Highly effective at countering jihad, don't you know. ///

868 Rancher  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:00:23am

Andy McCarthy has declined an invitation to be a prop in the roundtable meeting the President’s Task Force on Detention Policy. McCarthy lead the 1995 terrorism prosecution against Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and eleven others.

I admire the lawyers of the Counterterrorism Division, and I do not question their good faith. Nevertheless, it is quite clear—most recently, from your provocative remarks on Wednesday in Germany—that the Obama administration has already settled on a policy of releasing trained jihadists (including releasing some of them into the United States). Whatever the good intentions of the organizers, the meeting will obviously be used by the administration to claim that its policy was arrived at in consultation with current and former government officials experienced in terrorism cases and national security issues. I deeply disagree with this policy, which I believe is a violation of federal law and a betrayal of the president’s first obligation to protect the American people. Under the circumstances, I think the better course is to register my dissent, rather than be used as a prop.

Moreover, in light of public statements by both you and the President, it is dismayingly clear that, under your leadership, the Justice Department takes the position that a lawyer who in good faith offers legal advice to government policy makers—like the government lawyers who offered good faith advice on interrogation policy—may be subject to investigation and prosecution for the content of that advice, in addition to empty but professionally damaging accusations of ethical misconduct. Given that stance, any prudent lawyer would have to hesitate before offering advice to the government.

Link

869 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:00:29am

Time to grab the cattle prod and mask and run some errands.
Coughers and sneezers beware...Mr Jolt has a -phobia and an itchy trigger finger.

//L8R

870 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:00:59am

re: #860 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Typical white Grandmother, eh?

Indeed!
And she had a real eye for fashion - she made all hers and our clothes. she only had to see a dress in a window display, sketched it and off she went ...

Pretty useful, being brought up like that!

871 Ford_Prefect  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:02:20am

re: #861 realwest

Well that's what happens when you draft a document in a hurry - had to get it leaked to the media before the Tea Parties doncha know! (and yes I know that the work on that - as a possible issue of domestic violence was begun under Bush, but it sure as hell wasn't finished by Bush nor leaked to the Media by the Bush administration either.

Very suspicious indeed. So what new leak will we see on July 3.

872 avanti  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:02:59am

re: #831 Nevergiveup

That's the second time you made that allegation that they didn't have the experience they claimed to have? Proof?

I'll need to dig around on the net, but it was on ABC TV news and they showed the line in the CIA memos that said they could not rely on the contractors because they misrepresented their experience.

873 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:03:13am

re: #864 turn

oh man, my hound dawg can piss that's for sure. Try Advantage, it really works.

I'm sure it does - pity Madame and I won't be visiting proper tick country any time soon ...

:-(

874 Natasha  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:04:22am

re: #151 theheat

That leaves us with fish eye soup with a vodka chaser.

I can't remember who, but one of the lizards awhile back said during WWII the Russians were drinking fuel (or was it brake fluid) from planes (?), because of the high alcohol content. Mind boggling.

I believe it was I who said it. I think it was actually alcohol-based coolant. And not just in WWII. Besides, troops at the front always had proper vodka supply. The "sto gramov" (100 grams, or a 3 oz) shot was the battle ration, dispensed after missions to uphold morale and let soldiers relax a bit.
As to the coolant-drinking... When Andropov came to power, near-Prohibition was instituted, and about 10 people died from drinking the stuff, on one day. It was all over the papers.

875 jcm  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:04:28am

You cannot make this shit up...

Now casting: ‘Octomom: The Musical’
T

here’s no business like Octomom business.

Christian Voltaire, a relatively unknown character actor, decided to write a musical about Nadya Suleman, the California multi-mother known as Octomom.

876 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:05:21am

re: #868 Rancher

Key quote:

Given that stance, any prudent lawyer would have to hesitate before offering advice to the government.

Obama's message to the men & women serving to protect the country is:

"Do you job. But if you mess up, or go too far, or do anything we might later decide was wrong, you're screwed!"

877 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:05:24am

re: #868 Rancher

Andy McCarthy has declined an invitation to be a prop in the roundtable meeting the President’s Task Force on Detention Policy. McCarthy lead the 1995 terrorism prosecution against Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and eleven others.

Link

Cripes - he doesn't half lay into them!
He really shows those people up - excellent stuff!

878 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:06:00am

re: #870 yma o hyd

Indeed!
...she only had to see a dress in a window display, sketched it and off she went ...

Pretty useful, being brought up like that!

But terribly embarrassing for the boys. /

879 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:06:07am

re: #766 3 wood

The class prep was minor cause I could give the lectures in my sleep. I set up the tests so they were quick to grade, had some done on-line. It's possible to get amore efficient is all I'm saying

If you're teaching a class you've taught before and don't need to change much or at all in your presentation, obviously the prep work is minor. Teaching multiple sections of the same course at one time also slashes prep time, obviously. But those situations don't always apply. I was teaching classes that had a high degree of student participation, so every time through I needed to adjust the plan and the materials to fit what was happening in the classroom.

880 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:06:28am
881 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:06:49am

re: #876 Kenneth

Key quote:


Obama's message to the men & women serving to protect the country is:

"Do you job. But if you mess up, or go too far, or do anything we might later decide was wrong, you're screwed!"

I wonder how the troops really feel about their CinC.

882 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:07:18am

re: #875 jcm

It is certainly no weirder than "Urine Town" which was a decent hit.

883 WriterMom  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:07:20am

re: #787 Kenneth

Chick drinks? Uchhh.

884 Ben Hur  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:07:27am
885 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:07:35am

re: #686 3 wood

I'm still waiting for the leadership of the GOP to step forward and seize these great opportunities!

[crickets chirping]

886 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:07:37am

re: #878 DaddyG

But terribly embarrassing for the boys. /

No boys in the family, alas ... husbands excepted.

887 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:07:55am

re: #761 yma o hyd

I think its because they're all sitting in offices, looking at their computers - and then just get up and speak to the TV cameras.
They have no personal experience why wind speed and direction might be important, and why we're not all going to curse them if they don't 'deliver' sunshine!

As for the weathergirls ... words fail me!

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

888 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:08:07am

re: #885 quickjustice

I'm still waiting for the leadership of the GOP to step forward and seize these great opportunities!

[crickets chirping]

You are certainly going to be waiting for a long time...

889 Ben Hur  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:08:29am

re: #883 WriterMom

Allo!

890 Pupdawg  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:08:42am

re: #326 MandyManners

Just yesterday I was fantasizingg about shooting this particular bird singing at my window but I'm in a better mood this morning.

Youtube Video

You rock Mandy! Have a Beautiful Day.

891 aggieann  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:08:45am

re: #859 Ford_Prefect

No, a liquor producer named Bottle would be like an ice cream man named Cone. A liquor man named Beveridge is more like an ice cream man named Dessert.

Let's get our similes right! /

"A simile is like a metaphor." --Anonymous

892 WriterMom  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:08:49am

re: #767 Occasional Reader

Well, DUH!

893 Natasha  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:08:56am

re: #866 Killgore Trout

I see Spencer has his little midget panties in a twist again this morning.

Who keeps giving him atomic wedgies?!

894 Russkilitlover  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:09:01am

re: #827 3 wood


It is really hard to get high inflation back down once it's started, and there is no easy way to do it.

Peshaw! It's easy peasy! Jack up the interest rates and raise marginal tax rates across the board.

895 WriterMom  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:09:50am

re: #889 Ben Hur

Shalom, yayouni...

896 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:10:02am

re: #880 Dark_Falcon

And speaking of disgraceful:

British Airline Under Fire for Wiping Israel Off Inflight Maps

The airline (bmi) say that they bought the planes from a ME airline, and hadn't got round to changing the in-flight map system.
Still pretty outrageous - but does make sense, in a disgusting way.

898 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:10:20am

Dear Attorney General Holder:

This letter is respectfully submitted to inform you that I must decline the invitation to participate in the May 4 roundtable meeting the President’s Task Force on Detention Policy is convening with current and former prosecutors involved in international terrorism cases. An invitation was extended to me by trial lawyers from the Counterterrorism Section, who are members of the Task Force, which you are leading.

Full letter at this link

RTWFT!

899 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:11:08am

re: #854 Killgore Trout

I have absolutely no clue. I'm a neophyte when it comes to economics and I have only a very basic understanding of inflation. However, I don't think the Fed, the Treasury and this administration are quite as stupid and bumbling as right wing pundits paint them. I seriously doubt they are flying blind. Their plans might not work but I assume they wil do whatever with the money supply and interest rates (or whatever) to attempt to deal with inflation when the time comes. I'm very skeptical of all the doomsday claims floating around that an economic apocalypse is unavoidable. People making those claims have their own agenda. I've decided to cheer on this administration and I wish them the best on repairing the economy.

Way 1. You contract the money supply, raise the discount rate, all of which forces interest rates even higher for a while, causes more unemployment, and slows inflation down. This is monetary policy and is handled by the Fed, not the White House.

Way 2. You can also do some things with supply to increase supply of goods and services and thus bring inflation down, but with the increased taxes that I think are coming, that is not a likely option. That is more fiscal policy and is ultimately in the hands of Congress.

There is no 3rd way.

900 johnnyreb  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:11:16am

re: #861 realwest

Well that's what happens when you draft a document in a hurry - had to get it leaked to the media before the Tea Parties doncha know! (and yes I know that the work on that - as a possible issue of domestic violence was begun under Bush, but it sure as hell wasn't finished by Bush nor leaked to the Media by the Bush administration either.

And the fact that a whole bunch of people (some on this blog also) at first tried to claim it was "released" by DHS, and not leaked. That rubbed me the wrong way from the get go.

901 opnion  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:11:30am

Greetings & salutations & what up?
The Chicago Tribune had an amusing political cartoon this morning.
It is BHO addressing an auditorium of CIA personnel.
He says"My advice to you is that you have a right to remain silent..."

902 WriterMom  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:11:38am

re: #897 Alouette

Oh gawddd...those are funny.

903 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:12:04am

re: #883 WriterMom

Chick drinks? Uchhh.

Tell that to OR. He dared to disrespect scotch, drink of the gods.

OK, blue-faced red-haired gods in plaid skirts, but gods none the less.

904 KenJen  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:12:15am

re: #875 jcm

You cannot make this shit up...

Now casting: ‘Octomom: The Musical’
T

They should have called it "Eight is Enough."

905 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:12:32am

re: #887 Miss Trixie

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Oh miss, turn's going to have to clean his keyboard off. That was hilarious.

906 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:12:48am
907 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:12:53am

re: #820 aggieann
First of all, what is a "research university"? And large classes mean lectures not "teaching".
And as for " applying for and fulfilling grants, overseeing grad students, running labs, conducting research, getting published in peer-reviewed journals, etc." I taught those classes while holding down a full time (60+ hours a week) job as a partner in a law firm. Please don't try to tell me what "effort" it takes to be a full time professor at any university and if in fact " applying for and fulfilling grants, overseeing grad students, running labs, conducting research, getting published in peer-reviewed journals, etc." takes SO MUCH TIME then they aren't TEACHING, they're reading from their research notes or draft dissertations.
They are simply making a living while pursuing their research work or PhD's. And yes, I have a Juris Doctor degree and yes I've been published in peer reviewed publications.

908 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:13:11am

re: #887 Miss Trixie

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Too funny!

And, btw, evidence why its unwise to pay top dolalrs for something like those shoes which will make you fall down and look silly.

My granny would have been scathing!

909 Summersong  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:13:42am

re: #731 Sharmuta

I reported your comment because links to that site are not welcome here.

You're completely correct to question where you've placed your trust, however.

Ugh...please report mine as well.

910 3 wood  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:13:47am

Well, I'm feeling sick again so I'm going to go sleep this bug off for a while.

Later all.

911 Sharmuta  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:14:06am

re: #909 Summersong

Ugh...please report mine as well.

OK! :)

912 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:14:16am

re: #904 KenJen

They should have called it "Eight is Enough."

I can see the reviews: "You'll have a 'Love Eight' relationship with this musical!"
/Stolen from The Simpsons.

913 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:15:03am

re: #854 Killgore Trout

There's no one at Treasury except Geithner! I'm not sure he has a secretary yet! He'll pick up the phone personally if you call!

And on this state of affairs you rest your profound faith and trust? /

914 Summersong  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:15:08am

re: #911 Sharmuta

OK! :)

:) I reported myself, too.

915 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:15:12am

re: #910 3 wood

Take care.

916 KenJen  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:15:41am

re: #897 Alouette

Here's some I whipped up in a couple of minutes.

Someone on the radio this morn. said that little stunt was Obama's way of giving America the bird.

917 VioletTiger  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:15:46am

re: #897 Alouette

Here's some I whipped up in a couple of minutes.


Hey, you mean Obama could have taken out Barad Dur? Dam that man is amazing!/

918 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:16:02am

re: #907 realwest

... And yes, I have a Juris Doctor degree and yes I've been published in peer reviewed publications.

Hiya, {rw}!

Ssee - you oughta have run for Pres - you beat PB0 hands down in the academic qualifications department - and as for publications, heh, he has none!

919 WriterMom  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:17:54am

re: #903 Kenneth

I'm with OR on that one. Scotch tastes like marinated shoe deoderizer liquid to me.

920 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:18:16am

'The driver of a car that killed six people after crashing into crowds watching a Dutch royal parade on Thursday has died from his injuries.
Karst Tates, a 38-year-old Dutch national, was critically injured after his attempted attack on the Dutch royal family, and died in hospital overnight.'

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

921 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:18:40am

Dear Attorney General Holder:

Patently, the commitment to close Guantanamo Bay within a year was made without a plan for what to do with these detainees who cannot be tried. Consequently, the Detention Policy Task Force is not an effort to arrive at the best policy. It is an effort to justify a bad policy that has already been adopted: to wit, the Obama administration policy to release trained terrorists outright if that’s what it takes to close Gitmo by January.

922 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:18:55am

re: #907 realwest

I think the argument about whether academics work hard is off topic. Some do, and some don't.

Whether student loans are a bubble that is driving up tuition is on topic. And with Harvard abandoning tuition, what are the lesser schools to do?

There's a legitimate question about the value of higher education, especially in the left-leaning humanities. Other than as a credential for the job market, does it add value in any other way? I'd say it's turned into a giant trash heap.

923 rightside  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:19:03am

re: #898 Kenneth

dinged up and favorited!~

924 opnion  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:19:17am

I see reading the thread, that the Valarie Plame incident was being discussed.
I was struck by how she & her grifter husband Joe Wilson wallowed in their new found fame. If there was a legitimate fear of reprisals on Plame why do a Vanity Faire photo shoot?
They became the toast of the beltway & just ran to the cameras.

925 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:19:29am

re: #917 VioletTiger

Hey, you mean Obama could have taken out Barad Dur? Dam that man is amazing!/

Nope that photo shows Obama circling the Barad-Dur. He would never harm it, for it the home of his master, the Dark Lord Soros.

926 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:19:38am

re: #919 WriterMom

You say that like it's a bad thing!

927 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:20:13am

re: #913 quickjustice

And on this state of affairs you rest your profound faith and trust?


Yes because they are the only option available. The Republicans have adopted Paulian economics. Letting the banking system fail would be an immediate disaster of epic proportions. Ending the Fed (aka going to to the gold standard) and the Fair Tax and nonsensical fantasies. The Republican proposed alternative budget was an embarrassing joke. There are serious concerns with the economy but those making the most dire predictions aren't rooted in reality themselves. The Republicans are doing nothing to help the economic recovery so I'll go ahead and cheer for the Dems. At least they're trying.

928 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:20:59am

re: #919 WriterMom

I'm with OR on that one. Scotch tastes like marinated shoe deoderizer liquid to me.

I concur!

929 Russkilitlover  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:21:05am

re: #887 Miss Trixie

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Oh, my! LMAO!

I can completely identify with the model; although, I don't need heels to do the same thing. I have been known to fall flat on my face tripping over those dreaded painted lines.

930 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:21:08am
931 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:21:50am

re: #920 yma o hyd

'The driver of a car that killed six people after crashing into crowds watching a Dutch royal parade on Thursday has died from his injuries.
Karst Tates, a 38-year-old Dutch national, was critically injured after his attempted attack on the Dutch royal family, and died in hospital overnight.'

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

I will wager his condition was "helped" by the cops.

932 Russkilitlover  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:22:18am

re: #920 yma o hyd

'The driver of a car that killed six people after crashing into crowds watching a Dutch royal parade on Thursday has died from his injuries.
Karst Tates, a 38-year-old Dutch national, was critically injured after his attempted attack on the Dutch royal family, and died in hospital overnight.'

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Good. I hope they withheld pain meds.

933 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:22:59am

re: #927 Killgore Trout

Dude... The GOP is NOT adopting Paulian economics... They are calling for a reurn to fiscal responsibility...

Stop painting with the broad brush... Really...

We want the economy to get back up but it's going to take a hell of a lot more than reckless spending to do it...

934 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:23:00am

re: #898 Kenneth
Hi Kenneth - I can't give you as many updings as that comment and link deserve! Great work my friend!

935 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:23:04am

re: #931 bolivar

I will wager his condition was "helped" by the cops.

Naw - not the Dutch Police.
They wanted him to stand trial.

936 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:24:15am

Any updates on that car attack in Belgium(?) yesterday? What was the story there?

937 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:24:45am

re: #932 Russkilitlover

Good. I hope they withheld pain meds.

Speculating here - but what with the Dutch Euthanasia Laws, who knows what went on in that hospital ...

938 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:25:28am

re: #936 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Any updates on that car attack in Belgium(?) yesterday? What was the story there?

I think it was in the Netherlands... The driver died I think...

939 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:25:37am

Is anyone else having trouble typing on this thread as in typing 15 words or so and not being able to see what you typed untl about 10 seconds after you type it?Had the same problems with LGF's DT yesterday as well but not with other blog sites or on newer threads on LGF.

940 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:25:41am

re: #936 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Any updates on that car attack in Belgium(?) yesterday? What was the story there?

The bloke is dead.
See my #920, above.

941 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:25:51am

re: #927 Killgore Trout

So it's government's role to "help" the economy by implementing policies of corporatism and crony capitalism to aid labor unions and close friends of the Administration? How about rescuing the financial sector by letting the bad banks fail, pour capital into the good (or better) banks, cutting capital gains tax to zero (since there are no capitals gains it won't affect revenues, but will stimulate investment), cutting non-essential government programs, licensing second-generation nuclear power plants, and encouraging energy production?

942 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:25:53am

re: #934 realwest

Thanks, but credit goes to Rancher for posting it first. I just quoted part of it.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Charles, I think that letter is threadworthy.

943 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:27:13am

re: #933 tfc3rid


Dude... The GOP is NOT adopting Paulian economics... They are calling for a reurn to fiscal responsibility...

Stop painting with the broad brush... Really...

We want the economy to get back up but it's going to take a hell of a lot more than reckless spending to do it...

If the Tea Parties were about fiscal responsibility then anyone with a Fair Tax sign of "End the Fed" would be chased out and shouted down. It's not a serious movement, it's a joke.

944 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:27:27am

re: #930 buzzsawmonkey

I hope it's a Randi Rhodes scholarship. Cecil Rhodes would be spinning in his grave.

Some bits:

''When I was younger, I was angry,'' Mr. Boudin, a tall, clean-cut young man said in an interview here Saturday evening, looking comfortable in the navy pinstriped suit he had worn for the Rhodes interview, though the tie was long gone.

''Now I'm not angry,'' he said, ''I'm sad that my parents have to suffer what they have to suffer on a daily basis, that millions of other people have to suffer as well.''

Asshole.

Also:

''Cecil Rhodes, I don't know what would he think if he were alive today; he'd probably be horrified,'' Ms. Dohrn, a professor at Northwestern law school, said, laughing, in her office, where snapshots of her children at play are interspersed with the memorabilia of a radical life.

I hope Cecil John Rhodes haunts her ass.

945 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:27:32am

re: #930 buzzsawmonkey

I hope it's a Randi Rhodes scholarship. Cecil Rhodes would be spinning in his grave.

Cecil Rhodes would spin in his grave for many things, including desegregation (given how he ran DeBeers). He was an ass, but your point is well taken.

946 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:27:33am

re: #939 realwest

Is anyone else having trouble typing on this thread as in typing 15 words or so and not being able to see what you typed untl about 10 seconds after you type it?Had the same problems with LGF's DT yesterday as well but not with other blog sites or on newer threads on LGF.

No - it might be caused by all those temp files.
You can clear them, in IE, going to Tools - Internet Options - and then tick the relevant boxes.

947 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:28:11am

That ad at the top of the thread for a free Ann Coulter has been running for days. You mean no one wants to rescue her from the shelter? /

948 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:28:35am

re: #939 realwest

Is anyone else having trouble typing on this thread as in typing 15 words or so and not being able to see what you typed untl about 10 seconds after you type it?Had the same problems with LGF's DT yesterday as well but not with other blog sites or on newer threads on LGF.

Real, I'm seriously starting to think I should drive down and work on your computer. I'm just not satisfied with the support you're getting.

949 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:28:47am

re: #906 Summersong

I reported your post only because you quoted a now-deleted post.

(Charles doesn't want any links to that site anymore, and I don't blame him a bit.)

950 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:28:58am

re: #930 buzzsawmonkey

Or, as Junior Brown says in "Semi-Crazy," "roads scholar."

951 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:29:14am

re: #944 Ward Cleaver

I hope Cecil John Rhodes haunts her ass.

Cecil Rhodes would indeed be horrified - but not in the way she thinks!

952 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:30:11am

re: #943 Killgore Trout

If the Tea Parties were about fiscal responsibility then anyone with a Fair Tax sign of "End the Fed" would be chased out and shouted down. It's not a serious movement, it's a joke.

You know, the majority of the people who actually attended tea parties (unlike yourself I imagine) were there because they have had enough.

People in this country are free to say whatever the heck they want, last I checked. If people are there and support an alternative systtem of taxation (even if it's never going to be a reality) they are free to do so...

But again, it seems like folks who have actually been to tea parties see them as an opportunity for 'our' side to emote against what we see as a major problem...

953 SFGoth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:31:42am

Well, well, well. Souter was definitely not as liberal as Obama's going to be able to get through with 60 in the Senate. Welcome to the land of consequences GOP. You fucked it up for 8 years, now enjoy the silence. (Hey, Depeche Mode is on tour this summer.)

954 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:31:45am

re: #918 yma o hyd
Thanks {yma} but running for political office is not for me.
Just can't be hypocritical enough to be successful and I'd never have the MSM in my back pocket the way Obama did - although the bloom maybe off that rose, as I pointed out in a spinoff link on Wednesday and as Charles had a thread on yesterday, the ASSOCIATED PRESS is actually trying to do some factual reporting on Obama, now that he's been elected.

955 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:32:23am

re: #953 SFGoth

Well, well, well. Souter was definitely not as liberal as Obama's going to be able to get through with 60 in the Senate. Welcome to the land of consequences GOP. You fucked it up for 8 years, now enjoy the silence. (Hey, Depeche Mode is on tour this summer.)

They did fuck it up, but in the end, we all pay...

956 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:32:36am

re: #936 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It happened in the Netherlands, not Belgium.

957 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:33:04am

re: #947 DaddyG

That ad at the top of the thread for a free Ann Coulter has been running for days. You mean no one wants to rescue her from the shelter? /

Her last adopter returned her for peeing on the rug. :D

958 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:34:00am

re: #922 quickjustice
"off topic"? On the Dead Thread? Shirley you jest.

959 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:34:01am

re: #939 realwest

Is anyone else having trouble typing on this thread as in typing 15 words or so and not being able to see what you typed untl about 10 seconds after you type it?Had the same problems with LGF's DT yesterday as well but not with other blog sites or on newer threads on LGF.

Sounds like IE 8 runs scripts slowly, and that could be affected by the size of the thread; smaller threads might not have as much of an effect.
Try the instructions I sent for removing IE8. (At least Microsoft does supply such instructions!)

960 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:34:03am

re: #942 Kenneth

Thanks, but credit goes to Rancher for posting it first. I just quoted part of it.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Charles, I think that letter is threadworthy.

oh man, this was good:

"Consequently, the Detention Policy Task Force is not an effort to arrive at the best policy. It is an effort to justify a bad policy that has already been adopted: to wit, the Obama administration policy to release trained terrorists outright if that’s what it takes to close Gitmo by January.

Another example of O just making shit up as he goes along

961 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:34:56am

re: #954 realwest

I know you couldn't be as hypocritical as the real politicians - you haven't got it in you, thank God!

But your legal qualifications still top those of PB0, especially your publications.

I'm chuffed to bits to have met you, here at LGF!

962 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:35:04am

re: #953 SFGoth

Well, well, well. Souter was definitely not as liberal as Obama's going to be able to get through with 60 in the Senate. Welcome to the land of consequences GOP. You fucked it up for 8 years, now enjoy the silence. (Hey, Depeche Mode is on tour this summer.)

963 Russkilitlover  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:35:10am

re: #927 Killgore Trout

The Republicans have adopted Paulian economics. Letting the banking system fail would be an immediate disaster of epic proportions.

Where on earth did you get that whopper? Republicans want the banking system to fail? Fiscal conservatives wanted individual failing banks to fail, which happens all the time and keeps the banking system healthy. Pouring billions of taxpayer dollars into failing banks to artificially prop them up is the recipe for disaster.

964 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:35:25am

re: #958 realwest

"off topic"? On the Dead Thread? Shirley you jest.

...and stop calling me Shirley.

965 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:36:07am

re: #940 yma o hyd

The bloke is dead.
See my #920, above.

Ah. Thanks for the update.

966 opnion  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:37:03am

re: #943 Killgore Trout

If the Tea Parties were about fiscal responsibility then anyone with a Fair Tax sign of "End the Fed" would be chased out and shouted down. It's not a serious movement, it's a joke.

Kilgore would yoyu be so rigid about all rallys? As an example at the Immigration rallys , I saw signs like "Honkys go back to Europe" & worse.
Could the organizers chase them away & deny their first amendment rights?

967 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:37:19am

re: #960 turn

oh man, this was good:

"Consequently, the Detention Policy Task Force is not an effort to arrive at the best policy. It is an effort to justify a bad policy that has already been adopted: to wit, the Obama administration policy to release trained terrorists outright if that’s what it takes to close Gitmo by January.

Another example of O just making shit up as he goes along

Its also an a example of him pretending to achieve a consensus when he's just going to implement his own policy. Its window-dressing to let the MSM portray him as a consensus builder to an ignorant public. [bangs head against desk]

968 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:37:40am

Just in case you forgot what day it is today:
Violence mars European May Day demos

Thats the way LLL 'protest' against economic policies - pretty much different from the Tea Parties!

969 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:38:05am
970 Baier  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:38:29am

re: #963 Russkilitlover

Where on earth did you get that whopper? Republicans want the banking system to fail? Fiscal conservatives wanted individual failing banks to fail, which happens all the time and keeps the banking system healthy. Pouring billions of taxpayer dollars into failing banks to artificially prop them up is the recipe for disaster.

I agree. The government should not promote inefficiencies. If we're going to give money to any company, we should give it to those that do the damn job right. Not the losers.

971 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:38:49am

Performer Danny Gans has died.
I actually worked with him a few times.
Immensely talented.

972 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:38:55am

re: #910 3 wood

Well, I'm feeling sick again so I'm going to go sleep this bug off for a while.

Later all.

SWINE FLU!

EVERYONE EVACUATE THE THREAD!

-Joe Biden

973 Cato the Elder  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:39:14am

OH MY SWEET LORD!

From CCN:

Investigators have found the vehicle of a University of Georgia professor wanted in the killing of three people.

Police found George Zinkhan's vehicle early Friday in northwestern Clarke County, home to the University of Georgia, the university said in a statement.

Authorities have been looking for a 2005 red Jeep Liberty that Zinkhan was driving when he was last seen six days ago after a shooting left three people dead, including his wife. Saturday's shootings happened at a community theater group's reunion in Athens, Georgia, just off campus.

The university fired Zinkhan from his job as a marketing professor the day after the shootings.

Zinkhan had purchased a plane ticket to the Netherlands for travel on Saturday, said Gregory Jones, special agent in charge of the FBI's Atlanta, Georgia, office, this week. Authorities have said Zinkhan owns a home in Amsterdam, Netherlands.

Police Capt. Clarence Holeman identified the dead as Marie Bruce, 47, Zinkhan's wife and an Athens attorney; Tom Tanner, 40; and Ben Teague, 63.

Ben Teague is an old friend and translation colleague of mine.

974 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:40:36am

re: #966 opnion

As an example at the Immigration rallys , I saw signs like "Honkys go back to Europe"

It's official: The Seventies are back.

975 Sharmuta  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:40:46am

rawmuse and Cato- sorry to hear of the passing of your colleagues.

976 WriterMom  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:40:52am

re: #973 Cato the Elder

That's horrible. So sorry about your friend.

977 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:41:00am
978 WriterMom  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:41:20am

re: #974 Occasional Reader

So spin something appropriate!

979 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:41:30am

re: #973 Cato the Elder

OH MY SWEET LORD!

From CCN:


Ben Teague is an old friend and translation colleague of mine.

That's terrible news, Cato. I'm sorry for your loss.

980 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:41:50am

re: #953 SFGoth

Well, well, well. Souter was definitely not as liberal as Obama's going to be able to get through with 60 in the Senate. Welcome to the land of consequences GOP. You fucked it up for 8 years, now enjoy the silence. (Hey, Depeche Mode is on tour this summer.)

It's more like 12 years, at least the Congress (1995-2007). They thought it would be cool to be able to spend like Democrats.

981 opnion  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:41:53am

re: #974 Occasional Reader

It's official: The Seventies are back.


I hope that everbody saved their Leisure Suits. I knew that they would make a comeback!

982 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:42:05am

re: #973 Cato the Elder

I'm so sorry, Cato. My condolences. What horrible news, and what a horrible way to find out.

983 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:42:14am

re: #973 Cato the Elder

I am so sorry! That is terrible news.

984 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:42:25am

re: #981 opnion

I hope that everbody saved their Leisure Suits. I knew that they would make a comeback!

SMACK!

985 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:42:26am

re: #943 Killgore Trout

I don't know yet whether the Tea Party protests are a serious movement. Time will tell. I attended both Tea Party protests in City Hall Park, Manhattan. I can tell you that the first rally drew a couple of hundred people (about the size of a Sharpton crowd). According to NYPD estimates, the second rally drew 12,500. In 10-1 Democrat to GOP NYC, that's huge.

There were some Paulians on the fringes of the crowd, handing out wacky literature. Most participants were anti-bailout, anti-tax, and anti excessive government spending protesters. They were middle class, and of all races and ethnic persuasions. The Paulians were NOT controlling them.

It's more telling that the President was enraged enough by the protests to refer to them by the insulting "teabagging" gay slang at his Town Hall meeting in Missouri. It's interesting that the President knows what "teabagging" is. I didn't until the left started using it as an epithet for the protesters. This President is arrogant and polarizing. He'll make things much worse before they get better.

986 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:42:31am

re: #975 Sharmuta

rawmuse and Cato- sorry to hear of the passing of your colleagues.

I'm sorry, rawmuse; I didn't see yours until just now. Apologies to you as well.

987 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:42:38am

re: #973 Cato the Elder So very sorry to hear that. I hope they find and/or extradite Zinkhan soon and put him to justice.

Prayers for your loss and prayers for his surviving family.

988 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:42:48am

re: #973 Cato the Elder

I'm so sorry for you - what a horrible thing to happen to a friend.

989 Zimriel  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:43:06am

re: #966 opnion

Kilgore would yoyu be so rigid about all rallys? As an example at the Immigration rallys , I saw signs like "Honkys go back to Europe" & worse.
Could the organizers chase them away & deny their first amendment rights?

If you'll recall - those signs, the mexican flags, the upside down US flags and all of them backfired and sent the "immigration reform" proposal into the epicest of fails.

Killgore's point stands, IOW.

990 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:43:12am
991 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:43:27am

re: #977 buzzsawmonkey

Honky if you love Obama!

Up your nose with a rubber hose, you jive turkey.

Just kidding. I think you're DY-NO-MITE!

992 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:43:56am

re: #973 Cato the Elder

Sorry for your loss. It's bad enough to lose a friend, but to lose them violently is the worst.

993 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:44:17am

re: #973 Cato the Elder

Do they know what the motive was? If any?

994 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:45:05am
995 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:45:10am
996 Russkilitlover  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:45:12am

re: #973 Cato the Elder

How awful and senseless. {Cato the Elder}

997 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:45:22am

re: #986 vxbush

I'm sorry, rawmuse; I didn't see yours until just now. Apologies to you as well.

I worked with Danny until he went "big time" with a steady gig in Vegas. The man really had it going on, plus IIRC he was a MLB ball player who switched to show biz. A really extraordinary person.

I was more of an employee than a personal friend.

998 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:45:38am

re: #949 lurking faith

I reported your post only because you quoted a now-deleted post.

(Charles doesn't want any links to that site anymore, and I don't blame him a bit.)

What site was that (just the name)?

999 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:45:49am

re: #971 rawmuse

It's tough when one of the good guys goes down.

1000 VegasRick  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:46:18am

re: #995 buzzsawmonkey

Seventies leisure suits are politically incorrect: since most have a high polyester fiber content, they represent the promiscuous use of petroleum.

The new leisure suit layoff suit will be made of organic hemp.

"Smoke em' if ya got em'"

1001 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:46:22am

re: #907 realwest

There is no one-size-fits-all set of numbers that applies to the time demands on a college/university teacher. They vary by field, and by school, and by the specific courses a teacher has taken on. I do think your implication that many spend too much time on research may be unfair to those who are in the position of being REQUIRED to publish quality research in significant amounts or be "not renewed" at their university. And if you are dumped from one tenure track university for insufficient research, no other research university will even look at you.

Now, the question of whether professors ought to be pressured to publish publish publish, all out of balance with their teaching duties, is important. But for any individual not-yet-tenured prof., going against that demand is career suicide. It's easy to get fired for not doing enough research - in fact, it's probably written into the departmental guidelines that it WILL happen - but it's not very easy to get fired for teaching badly. And I think that's just pathetic.

1002 nyc redneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:46:26am

re: #985 quickjustice

someone who knows the organizers of the manhattan tea party told me that o has asked to meet w/ these people. have you heard anything abt. that?
if true it is a very interesting request from the whitehouse.

1003 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:46:55am

re: #974 Occasional Reader

It's official: The Seventies are back.

Swine flu, bad economy, inflation, dinky little cars - yep. Be on the lookout for Harvest Gold to make a comeback, too.

1004 Rhino Dryke  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:47:04am

Anyone have anything on the ethnicity of the car killing"Dutch citizen"?

1005 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:47:36am
1006 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:47:51am

re: #1003 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Swine flu, bad economy, inflation, dinky little cars - yep. Be on the lookout for Harvest Gold to make a comeback, too.

And Avocado.

1007 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:48:03am

re: #998 Ward Cleaver

What site was that (just the name)?

Spencer's site - jihad watch.
Or as it should be called "neo Nazis and fascists against jihad (we'll come for Jews later)"

1008 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:48:24am

re: #1002 nyc redneck

Sounds very unlikely

1009 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:48:28am

re: #1003 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Swine flu, bad economy, inflation, dinky little cars - yep. Be on the lookout for Harvest Gold to make a comeback, too.

Don't forget the hostages. (Iran AND North Korea this time.)

Possible plus side: Funk revival?

1010 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:48:35am

My mom's refrigerator (1974) and gas range (1980) are Harvest Gold.

1011 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:49:18am

re: #1009 Occasional Reader

Don't forget the hostages. (Iran AND North Korea this time.)

Possible plus side: Funk revival?

Only this time, they'll get nukes and hold the world hostage.

1012 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:49:19am

re: #1003 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Swine flu, bad economy, inflation, dinky little cars - yep. Be on the lookout for Harvest Gold to make a comeback, too.

GAH! NOT HARVEST GOLD! The puckiest color on the planet.

1013 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:49:31am

re: #1004 Rhino Dryke

Anyone have anything on the ethnicity of the car killing"Dutch citizen"?

According to the Beeb and The Times/London, he was a 38-year old Dutch citizen, white, who had lost his job and his home and wanted to ram the open-top bus with the Durch Royals on it.

1014 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:49:41am

re: #943 Killgore Trout

Hey KT, I've been reading your tea party posts for quite a while now but haven't commented, this one was the straw for me. I really don't understand your anguish over the tea parties. Your obsession with this is getting too much to bear, even for turn. A joke? It sounds like you are embarrassed if conservatives gather and protest or something. There are going to be kooks in every protest but that is no reason for well minded folks not to participate, otherwise there would only be the kooks and how would that work out for ya? If you want the tea parties to end just say so and give us a convincing reason for it. The constant nit picking is annoying, which of course you have a right to be if you want to.

1015 callahan23  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:49:46am

re: #973 Cato the Elder

How terrible, I am deeply sorry for your loss. My condolences to you and all his loved ones. {Cato the Elder}

1016 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:49:48am

re: #1002 nyc redneck

Not really. It was a rhetorical point the president made at his Missouri Town Hall meeting:

“Those of you who are watching certain news channels on which I’m not very popular, and you see folks waving tea bags around, Obama said, “let me just remind them that I am happy to have a serious conversation about how we are going to cut our health care costs down over the long term, how we are going to stabilize Social Security.”

Details here: [Link: michellemalkin.com...]

1017 opnion  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:49:58am

re: #985 quickjustice
Your comments about Obama are spot on. He is very childish, complaining about FNC not showing him the love & ridiculing the Tea Party people.
No matter what anybody thinks, the vast majority were peaceful protesters with a valid point of view. Were there kooks on the fringe?
Sure there were, but less per capita than an Obama cabinet meeting.

1018 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:50:01am

re: #1003 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Be on the lookout for Harvest Gold to make a comeback, too.

Design book for the Age of Obama.

1019 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:50:03am

re: #985 quickjustice

Most participants were anti-bailout, anti-tax, and anti excessive government spending protesters.


Not bailing out the banking system would be a serious mistake. We'd lose about 40-50% of our banking infrastructure immediately with an additional 30-40% as the ensuing panic causes a run on the banks. The problems we see now with the economy is the lack of liquidity, the banks aren't lending as much as they should. Imagine what would happen with 70-80% of our financial infrastructure gone. You're paychecks would bounce and people would starting hoarding cash in their homes. It would take decades to replace that infrastructure.
As for the rest of it, regular conservatives are being duped by Paulians into attending these protests. They are showing up and supporting very bad economic policies that they don't understand. It's bad but people insist on doing it. It's not my problem. I'll start paying attention when conservatives start taking economics seriously again. Until then I'll tune out the nonsense.

1020 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:50:16am

re: #1009 Occasional Reader

Don't forget the hostages. (Iran AND North Korea this time.)

Possible plus side: Funk revival?

Only if Parliament is in session.

1021 Summersong  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:50:35am

re: #949 lurking faith

I reported your post only because you quoted a now-deleted post.

(Charles doesn't want any links to that site anymore, and I don't blame him a bit.)

Understood.

1022 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:50:37am
1023 Russkilitlover  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:50:39am

re: #1006 Ward Cleaver

And Avocado.

Avocados NEVER go out of style! Oh, wait, you meant the color. All I can think of is the fruit because I'm up to my eyeballs with them at home!

1024 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:50:39am

re: #1003 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Kitchen designer here. Nope! Harvest gold, avocado, coppertone are gone for good. With the exception of a few cheap-ass hold outs.

Yes I mean anybody with them.

1025 VegasRick  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:50:45am

re: #1013 yma o hyd

According to the Beeb and The Times/London, he was a 38-year old Dutch citizen, white, who had lost his job and his home and wanted to ram the open-top bus with the Durch Royals on it.

I hate Durch nazi's.

1026 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:50:52am

re: #1013 yma o hyd

According to the Beeb and The Times/London, he was a 38-year old Dutch citizen, white, who had lost his job and his home and wanted to ram the open-top bus with the Durch Royals on it.

Aww - PIMF!
Thats 'Dutch Royals' ...

(No, there isn't a new country in Europe!)

1027 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:50:59am

re: #1009 Occasional Reader

George Clinton and the P-Funk Allstars are still gong strong. I saw them a couple of years ago and had a backstage pass. One of the best shows I've ever been to.

1028 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:51:17am

re: #1010 Ward Cleaver

What I said!/

Hiya Ward!

1029 opnion  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:51:30am

re: #989 Zimriel

If you'll recall - those signs, the mexican flags, the upside down US flags and all of them backfired and sent the "immigration reform" proposal into the epicest of fails.

Killgore's point stands, IOW.

That wasn't his point. His point was that the Paulians should have been "Run off"

1030 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:52:09am

re: #1027 Mad Al-Jaffee

See them in the movie "P.C.U."?

Fun as hell!

1031 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:52:29am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader

Design book for the Age of Obama.

That's great in and of itself, and the fact that Lileks is behind it makes it even better.

1032 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:52:48am

re: #1012 vxbush

GAH! NOT HARVEST GOLD! The puckiest color on the planet.

I dunno. The burnt orange was pretty bad.

1033 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:53:23am

re: #1025 VegasRick

I hate Durch nazi's.

Durch Masters are a pretty lousy cigar, too.

1034 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:53:29am

When I walk into a house that still has harvest gold appliances...I know to quote the cheap stuff.

Amazingly? Still never cheap enough.

1035 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:54:15am

re: #1031 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's great in and of itself, and the fact that Lileks is behind it makes it even better.

I highly recommend that book, and even more, his Gallery of Regrettable Foods. I read the latter some years ago while home sick with the flu (!) one day. I was laughing so hard, I forgot I was sick.

1036 Truck Monkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:54:32am

re: #981 opnion

I hope that everbody saved their Leisure Suits. I knew that they would make a comeback!

Platform shoes and flare bell bottoms for me thank you! I am working on the Pork chop sideburns now as well.

1037 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:54:47am

re: #1029 opnion

That wasn't his point. His point was that the Paulians should have been "Run off"

That's "R-U-N-N O-F-T"!
-Oh Brother, Where Art Thou

1038 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:55:02am

re: #1035 Occasional Reader

Lileks has an amusing podcast as well, called "The Diner"

1039 Zimriel  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:55:13am

Tacitus's meltdown, called out on NRO.

Woo boy. Agree or disagree with Charles, he knows how to pick his enemies.

1040 SFGoth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:55:15am

re: #980 Ward Cleaver

It's more like 12 years, at least the Congress (1995-2007). They thought it would be cool to be able to spend like Democrats.

No, from '95 - '00, it was pretty good. Newt provided pretty good leadership (and I was still a Dem until mid-96).

1041 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:55:33am
1042 nyc redneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:55:39am

re: #1036 Truck Monkey

Platform shoes and flare bell bottoms for me thank you! I am working on the Pork chop sideburns now as well.

don't forget the wide white plastic belt w/ the big brass buckle.

1043 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:55:46am

re: #1035 Occasional Reader

I highly recommend that book, and even more, his Gallery of Regrettable Foods. I read the latter some years ago while home sick with the flu (!) one day. I was laughing so hard, I forgot I was sick.

A sample page & the money quote:
"If you lived here, you’d be laid by now!"

1044 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:55:58am

If they reissue the Evel Knievel crank up motorcycle, that would offset those godawful appliance colors, though.

1045 SFGoth  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:56:04am

re: #1010 Ward Cleaver

My mom's refrigerator (1974) and gas range (1980) are Harvest Gold.

Mine are black. ;->

1046 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:56:18am

re: #1019 Killgore Trout

They are protesting... The people attending are not writing legislation...

In addition, Ron Paul is one cheerio in the bowl of cheerios. If you think he has that much power or influence, you're crazy.

1047 vxbush  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:56:24am

re: #1032 DaddyG

I dunno. The burnt orange was pretty bad.

The 70's colors in all were terrible. Bad. Horrible. Disgusting. And who was the designer who started it? Because I need to have a long, LONG discussion with him/her.

1048 opnion  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:56:49am

re: #1036 Truck Monkey

Platform shoes and flare bell bottoms for me thank you! I am working on the Pork chop sideburns now as well.

Bring in da funk! Flowered shirts, white belts , white shoes & bells.
Everyday was Halloween!

1049 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:56:57am

I was just thinking: Are there ANY significant non-African American funk performers?

I can't think of even one.

Do we need to launch a robust program of Funk Affirmative Action?

1050 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:56:58am

re: #1045 SFGoth

Mine are black. ;->

Uh...clean them.

1051 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:57:10am
1052 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:57:29am

re: #1030 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

See them in the movie "P.C.U."?

Fun as hell!

Yeah, that was a fun movie. That was Jeremy Piven's first major role and he was uproariously funny as Droz.

1053 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:57:45am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader
Can't breathe - too funny... tears. Gasp!

This appears to be a work of art based on the butts of three shaved cats.

Toss a modern Goth chick in here and she’d dissolve on contact.

I don’t know what the hell this is – Jaundice McFrog, the pencil holder. At least it's yellow

1054 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:57:50am

re: #1048 opnion

Bring in da funk! Flowered shirts, white belts , white shoes & bells.
Everyday was Halloween!

I guess that's why people were having so much sex back then - any excuse to take of those damn clothes!

1055 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:58:02am

re: #1049 Occasional Reader

I was just thinking: Are there ANY significant non-African American funk performers?

I can't think of even one.

Do we need to launch a robust program of Funk Affirmative Action?

You go first...

1056 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:58:18am
1057 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:58:19am
1058 opnion  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:58:31am

re: #1037 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's "R-U-N-N O-F-T"!
-Oh Brother, Where Art Thou


Good flick. The pater familous

1059 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:58:46am

re: #1019 Killgore Trout

There are two important distinctions that must be made here: the first, between "bailing out" the banking system by capitalizing enough good banks to keep it intact (one doesn't want a systemic collapse unless one is prepared to spend twenty years rebuilding it), and "bailing out" bad banks without any hope of future solvency; and the second, which is permitting the bailouts to bleed into the general economy by bailing out Detroit.

Every economist I've talked to, conservative and liberal, says some government intervention was necessary to prevent wholesale panic and collapse of the banking system. The same group of economist agrees unanimously that bailing out other sectors, including Detroit, is a very risky, and unwise, business for the government to engage in.

1060 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:59:09am

re: #927 Killgore Trout Well you were certainly right in your # 894, when you said "I have absolutely no clue. I'm a neophyte when it comes to economics and I have only a very basic understanding of inflation."
THE DEMS NOW OWN THIS ECONOMY AND THE POLITICS AND POLICIES OF AMERICA.
You said you didn't vote but you pretty quickly jumped on to the side of those who won and NOW you want the Republicans to come to the aid of Obama's policies, not to the aid of America, but to the aid of Obama's sociailist policies.
Yes the banks were in trouble and BUSH was the one who pushed for TARP. But the Stimulus Bill was all democrats - except for Collins and Snowe.
You've indicated that your not financially well off for which I AM truly sorry, but neither am I and high inflation - coming largely from A TREMENDOUS INCREASE IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING - is gonna hurt us both.
YOu want ideas? How about cutting some Federal Government spending on projects OTHER THAN DEFENSE? How about laying off of small businesses which have traditionally provided the greatest amount of employment and not replacing them with low paying "green jobs" which don't even exist yet?
Unemployment and underemployment continue to increase which means that Fed income tax revenues will decrease, meaning the Federal Deficit - which Obama's proposed BUDGET projects as OVER One and One-half TRILLION DOLLARS will actually be higher. The only way to have that kind of budget is to print more money and that equals inflation which hurts the poor and elderly the most.
Sorry this took so long to type, but as I said above on the LGF Dead thread, I can't see what I'm typing until after I've typed it.

1061 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:59:21am

re: #1049 Occasional Reader

I was just thinking: Are there ANY significant non-African American funk performers?

I can't think of even one.

Do we need to launch a robust program of Funk Affirmative Action?

I suggest you check out the Brecker Brothers and Tower of Power.
Jews and Italians, I dunno, they might pass for brothers.

1062 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:59:25am

re: #973 Cato the Elder

OH MY SWEET LORD!

From CCN:


Ben Teague is an old friend and translation colleague of mine.

My condolences.

1063 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:59:26am

re: #1047 vxbush

The 70's colors in all were terrible. Bad. Horrible. Disgusting. And who was the designer who started it? Because I need to have a long, LONG discussion with him/her.

The 70's are the best argument against drug use.
What were we smoking back then?

1064 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:59:33am
1065 opnion  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:59:49am

re: #1054 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I guess that's why people were having so much sex back then - any excuse to take of those damn clothes!


Strong point.

1066 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:59:50am

re: #1055 tfc3rid

You go first...

I thought "Average White Band" was pretty funky.

1067 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:59:53am

re: #1033 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Dutch chicks are hot!

1068 brandon13  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:59:56am

re: #1046 tfc3rid

They are protesting... The people attending are not writing legislation...

In addition, Ron Paul is one cheerio in the bowl of cheerios. If you think he has that much power or influence, you're crazy.

Paul alone probably doesn't have much power or influence. Coupled with Glenn Beck and his friends... I think they have quite a bit of power and influence.

1069 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 8:59:58am
1070 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:00:22am

re: #1047 vxbush

The 70's colors in all were terrible. Bad. Horrible. Disgusting. And who was the designer who started it? Because I need to have a long, LONG discussion with him/her.

One of the unfortunate side effects of prolonged acid abuse I'd reckun.

1071 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:00:22am

Al-Marri cops a plea

During the nearly six years that Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri spent in isolation in a Navy brig as the last enemy combatant held on United States soil, he denied the government’s charges that he was a sleeper agent for Al Qaeda, his lawyers said. But on Thursday, in a federal courtroom in Peoria, Ill., that denial fell apart when Mr. Marri reached a deal with the government to plead guilty to conspiracy to provide material support to Al Qaeda.

You mean the terrorist was lying? But I thought only Bush officials lied...

1072 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:00:43am

re: #1049 Occasional Reader

I was just thinking: Are there ANY significant non-African American funk performers?

I can't think of even one.

Do we need to launch a robust program of Funk Affirmative Action?

Average White Band.

1073 JohnnyReb  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:00:43am

re: #1019 Killgore Trout

As for the rest of it, regular conservatives are being duped by Paulians into attending these protests. They are showing up and supporting very bad economic policies that they don't understand. It's bad but people insist on doing it. It's not my problem. I'll start paying attention when conservatives start taking economics seriously again. Until then I'll tune out the nonsense.

What the heck are you talking about? Show me some examples of regular people being secretly duped by the Paulians into attending the tea parties. You are seriously starting to sound scary in a conspiracy theory kind of way.

1074 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:00:59am

Very good National Review editorial on the Chrysler bankruptcy:

Obama Declares War on Capital

1075 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:01:27am

re: #1055 tfc3rid

You go first...

"The Occasional Funk DC-Town Starship Players"... workin' on it.

Rawmuse, you busy these days?

1076 Cato the Elder  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:01:38am

In memoriam Ben Teague

I am in tears.

Ben, you were a mentor and virtual friend when I was still cutting my teeth in the translation business. I have known you since 1989, but we never met in person. We just reconnected on Facebook a little while ago. I found out what happened by accident, reading CNN this morning.

Your wit, humanity and kindness shone out in every contact we ever had. You are sadly missed and deeply mourned.

God bless your soul, Ben, and God bless everyone who loves you.

✠ requiescat in pace ✠

1077 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:01:46am

re: #1050 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Uh...clean them.

When I remodeled my kitchen I went with stainless. Tile counter tops and floor with stainless sink and back splash. Stainless front on the subzero with stainless cover on the dishwasher. Open stainless racks and no cupboards. Stainless hood over stainless range with stainless bin table in center of the kitchen. Did I say stainless?

1078 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:02:00am

re: #946 yma o hyd
I've done all that jazz and as I sayid it only happens on LGF and then on the DT.
So Far.

1079 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:02:04am

re: #1068 brandon13

Paul alone probably doesn't have much power or influence. Coupled with Glenn Beck and his friends... I think they have quite a bit of power and influence.

Over what? Seriously... They have zero power to influence tax code, legislation, etc. in this country right now...

1080 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:02:35am
1081 wrenchwench  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:02:55am

re: #1049 Occasional Reader

I was just thinking: Are there ANY significant non-African American funk performers?

I can't think of even one.

Do we need to launch a robust program of Funk Affirmative Action?

Right here:

Check the guitarist.

Also the drummer after 4:00.

1082 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:03:11am

re: #1077 turn

Did you do any stainless?

Tile countertops? Ick. Lots of swine flu living in the grout.

1083 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:03:56am

re: #959 Kosh's Shadow
Thanks again, KS - I will do so post-haste!

1084 avanti  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:03:58am

Congress is now discussing a major issue involving interstate commerce, the BCS bowl system. As you know, the ONE prefers a playoff system.

1085 yma o hyd  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:04:26am

re: #1076 Cato the Elder

{Cato the Elder} - I'm more sorry for you than words can tell.

Thanks for that heartfelt obituary!

1086 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:04:34am

re: #1075 Occasional Reader

"The Occasional Funk DC-Town Starship Players"... workin' on it.

Rawmuse, you busy these days?

Slower than earlier this year, but, the phone is still ringing. No gripes.
Clue; if you see me here, it is a slow day.
Trying to get hired for the Octomom musical, just sent them a note.

1087 Truck Monkey  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:04:54am

re: #1066 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought "Average White Band" was pretty funky.

I was going to say that! There was a group named Chase that were real funky. Some were white. Most of them died in a plane crash. David Clayton Thomas and Blood, Sweat, and Tears. Also funky. Doobie Brothers and Michael McDonald. More soulful than funky, but could really "lay it down" if they had to. You dig?

1088 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:05:09am

re: #1076 Cato the Elder

Terrible.

My condolences.

1089 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:05:24am

re: #998 Ward Cleaver

What site was that (just the name)?

Spencer's.

(No, not that Spencer's.)

1090 tfc3rid  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:05:32am

re: #1084 avanti

Congress is now discussing a major issue involving interstate commerce, the BCS bowl system. As you know, the ONE prefers a playoff system.

Nice... Glad the Dem Congress has such critical issues to discuss...

1091 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:05:33am

re: #1076 Cato the Elder

Sorry for you loss, Cata.

1092 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:05:44am

Vin Diesel fellating a soda bottle

Help me! This is too funny.

1093 Kenneth  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:06:02am

re: #1075 Occasional Reader

"The Occasional Funk DC-Town Starship Players"... workin' on it.

First video release right here:

1094 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:07:10am

Commodores were pretty funky. Lionel Ritchie's white, isn't he?

1095 DaddyG  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:07:57am

re: #1086 rawmuse

Slower than earlier this year, but, the phone is still ringing. No gripes.
Clue; if you see me here, it is a slow day.
Trying to get hired for the Octomom musical, just sent them a note.

Get a large catchers mitt and try out for the OB Gyn part.

1096 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:08:34am

re: #1081 wrenchwench

That anybody we should know?

1097 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:09:08am

re: #1082 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you do any stainless?

Tile countertops? Ick. Lots of swine flu living in the grout.

Hey you should see them, they turned out great. I used this tile which is manufactured just a few miles from where I'm at right now

[Link: www.gladdingmcbean.com...]

This is the same tile I used on the floor and this stuff is indestructible. And the grout is hard as nails because turn knows to keep sponging water on it for quite some time after its set.

1098 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:09:42am

re: #1076 Cato the Elder

In memoriam Ben Teague

I am in tears.

Ben, you were a mentor and virtual friend when I was still cutting my teeth in the translation business. I have known you since 1989, but we never met in person. We just reconnected on Facebook a little while ago. I found out what happened by accident, reading CNN this morning.

Your wit, humanity and kindness shone out in every contact we ever had. You are sadly missed and deeply mourned.

God bless your soul, Ben, and God bless everyone who loves you.

✠ requiescat in pace ✠

Godspeed, Ben.

1099 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:09:44am

re: #1003 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Swine flu, bad economy, inflation, dinky little cars - yep. Be on the lookout for Harvest Gold to make a comeback, too.


Heck, it's already here. Mrs. POTUS wore harvest gold and avocado for the inauguration.

1100 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:11:05am

OK y'all I'm outta here to try to unistall IE 8!
Have a great day and I hope to get the chance to see you all down the road!

1101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:11:24am

re: #1097 turn

My customers with tile hate it.

Exceptions are the customers who installed it themselves. They all love it. No matter how awful it looks, no matter how cracked it is, no matter how many colonies of assorted bacterium happen to live in the grout.

1102 wrenchwench  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:12:13am

re: #1096 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That anybody we should know?

Yes.

1103 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:12:50am

re: #1049 Occasional Reader

I was just thinking: Are there ANY significant non-African American funk performers?

I can't think of even one.

Do we need to launch a robust program of Funk Affirmative Action?

There's always Wild Cherry.

1104 [deleted]  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:13:24am
1105 neocon hippie  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:14:01am

re: #1049 Occasional Reader

I was just thinking: Are there ANY significant non-African American funk performers?

I can't think of even one.

Do we need to launch a robust program of Funk Affirmative Action?

Galactic.

1106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:14:07am

re: #1102 wrenchwench

Yes.

Really. Do we know any funky white guitarists?

1107 turn  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:15:43am

re: #1101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My customers with tile hate it.

Exceptions are the customers who installed it themselves. They all love it. No matter how awful it looks, no matter how cracked it is, no matter how many colonies of assorted bacterium happen to live in the grout.

I guess they wouldn't put it in unless they did love it. btw, that tile was what I used throughout my adobe house when I put the radiant floor heating in.

1108 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:16:27am

re: #1106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really. Do we know any funky white guitarists?

Mike Stern, John Scofield, Pat Martino, the dude that plays with (Conte)
among others.

1109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:17:44am

re: #1108 rawmuse

(I'm thinking it is Charles).

1110 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:18:47am

re: #1106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really. Do we know any funky white guitarists?

I meant the dude that has recorded with Tower of Power, Vic Conte.

1111 quickjustice  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:19:04am

re: #1074 Dark_Falcon

I didn't realize that the holdouts in the Chrysler negotiations were secured creditors. That means their debt was back by collateral. That collateral was assets of Chrysler. Secured creditors have a constitutional (Fifth Amendment property) right to their collateral if the debtors defaults. What Obama attempted to do was to intimidate the secured creditors into abandoning their collateral without just compensation.

That's very serious. The bondholders are standing on their constitutional rights. Will the federal bankruptcy court in New York protect them? I think the bankruptcy judges solid here in NYC. Will Obama attempt to pressure them?

1112 rawmuse  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:19:43am

re: #1109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(I'm thinking it is Charles).

Of course, but is Charles still playing?

1113 wrenchwench  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:20:24am

re: #1106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really. Do we know any funky white guitarists?

You don't know who that is? He's ID'd in the comments.

/oops, maybe I shouldn't say "ID'd."

1114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:22:08am

re: #1112 rawmuse

Ahhh. Point.

1115 lurking faith  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:22:59am

re: #1104 buzzsawmonkey

I'm sorry, you are mistaken; she was wearing deep maize and arugula.

How silly of me to confuse those totally different and stylish colors with the permanently unhip harvest gold and avocado!

/Some call it maize; we call it corn.

1116 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:24:12am

re: #1106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really. Do we know any funky white guitarists?

There is a desperate shortage of funky white accordion players.

1117 Cato the Elder  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:31:28am

re: #993 Occasional Reader

Do they know what the motive was? If any?

Apparently the murderer got into an argument with his wife, went to his car, returned with two handguns, and killed her.

If I know Ben, he probably tried to stop it and paid the price. Same for the third person, I would venture to surmise.

1118 Rancher  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:34:46am

The damage Obama has done to our intelligence gathering abilities is as great or greater than what Jimmy Carter did. We knew he would be Jimmy Carter redux but damn... I'm reminded of a quote from Cool Hand Luke:

Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.

Obama has been spectacularly successful and cities like New York and L.A. will pay for it. But then they overwhelmingly supported him so there is some sad justice in that.

1119 UFO TOFU  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:35:03am

re: #1049 Occasional Reader

I was just thinking: Are there ANY significant non-African American funk performers?

I can't think of even one.

Do we need to launch a robust program of Funk Affirmative Action?

Check out these guys.

1120 wrenchwench  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:35:54am

re: #1117 Cato the Elder

{Cato the Elder}

1121 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:52:33am

Just checking to see if I can type ok!

1122 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:53:44am

re: #1121 realwest

Just checking to see if I can type ok!

How's IE 7 working again? And how did removing IE8 go?

1123 redstateredneck  Fri, May 1, 2009 9:58:48am

re: #1121 realwest

Just checking to see if I can type ok!


Looks ok on my end!

1124 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 10:18:07am

Great - uninstalled IE 8! Yea me!

1125 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 10:23:41am

re: #1124 realwest

Good for you! I hate IE but, some stuff just does still not work right on it. Some secure stuff from work requires IE6 believe it or not.

1126 realwest  Fri, May 1, 2009 10:35:39am

Gack I hate VISTA!

1127 bolivar  Fri, May 1, 2009 10:39:20am

re: #1126 realwest

Gack I hate VISTA!

More MS bloatware. Our laptop has it and frankly if it were up to me it would be gone. XP is faster in my opinion and I didn't have anywhere near the trouble with it I do with Vista and MS knows it. I heard they have a backward-license to go from Vista to XP if you have the need. I will if I don't resolve some issues. I have trouble in particular with the auto update of patches and crap. I turned it off because right in the middle of a web session it goes bam! and reboots to process the damn updates. Very frustrating and my wife gets pissed at me? I didn't write the darn stuff.


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