Glenn Beck Hosts Ron Paul Tea Party Supporters

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Glenn Beck brings his audience into the picture to discuss the “tea party” demonstrations, and imagine my surprise when several of them turn out to be Ron Paul acolytes.

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1 Mithrax  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:49:12pm

Like iron filings to a magnet.

But at least this way, we know where they are.

2 Shug  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:53:02pm

The Fox News Channel is becoming the Jerry Springer Show

3 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:53:28pm

It seems to me the Libertarians have plenty of common sense to add to the discussion, the tea parties were a blow back from an administration willing to further expand executive and government powers. Every movement has its nutty members. Focusing on them is more distraction than helpful, It will be the libertarian values that revive the Republicans if they have the sense.

4 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:54:19pm

It's my Tea Party!
I'll Laup Nor if I want to!

5 Daniel Ballard  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:54:39pm

This seems an off posting on a blog with Ann Coulter banner ads!

6 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:55:04pm

Losertarians and Whignuts untie!

7 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:55:25pm

Paulians showing up early tonight, I see.

8 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:56:45pm

re: #6 The Shadow Do

Losertarians and Whignuts untie!

Velcortarians! Party of the Bitter and Clingy?

9 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:57:05pm

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

It seems to me the Libertarians have plenty of common sense to add to the discussion, the tea parties were a blow back from an administration willing to further expand executive and government powers. Every movement has its nutty members. Focusing on them is more distraction than helpful, It will be the libertarian values that revive the Republicans if they have the sense.

With Luap Nor as their leader they - and their message - will be shunned like lepers.

/welcome to reality

10 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:58:49pm

re: #9 pink freud

Reality bites! Very hard. Luap Nor is NOT a credible leader for rational people.

11 Aye Pod  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:58:54pm

"I guess I'll start with this...what is the most cravenly populist sort of question I can kick this off with?"

12 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:58:56pm

re: #8 jcm

Velcortarians! Party of the Bitter and Clingy?

Velcortarian? Is that anything like a velcro lover sucking a lemon?

/uninformed

13 Truck Monkey  Sat, May 2, 2009 6:59:50pm

re: #9 pink freud

All in all he's just another brick in the wall.

/I always wanted to reply to you with this saying.

14 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:00:13pm

Pekoe boo, I see you.
Thought the parties had a chance early on to do something. Unfortunately, that something isn't anything I can follow.

15 LrdGrizzly  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:00:19pm

I didn't vote for Ron Paul. I voted for John McCain. The next time I vote there damn well be someone worth voting for or I might have to vote for a 'Ron Paul.'
He couldn't have done anymore damage to this country than Obama is , has or will do.
Libertarianism is looking better every day to me.

16 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:00:27pm

Is a velcortian like those thingys the Scientologists claim are a gazilion years old?

17 hopperandadropper  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:00:56pm

Well, what do you expect from Glenn Beck? But I'll tell you, you're chasing a red herring if you think the Tea Party thing is somehow a Paulian movement. Why do you persist in thinking that only fringe types are concerned about the direction Obama and Congress are currently taking, and looking for a way to make that known? They're trying to cram socialism down our throats and create an incomprehensible level of public debt in the process. Is objecting to that somehow flaky?

18 Bloodnok  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:01:28pm

Prediction for the life of this thread.

Act I: Overture, featuring Righteous Indignation.

Act II: Dance of the Paulian Troll

i. Flounceoff in 11/8
ii. The Wielding of the Stick (solo by Mr. S. Beaumont)

INTERMISSION and snacks

Act III: Regaining the Ship

Act IV: There's Killgore...GET HIM!

curtain

19 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:01:50pm

Wow.
Beck and his handpicked audience stooges are such an embarrassment.
Just wow.

20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:02:08pm

re: #17 hopperandadropper

Oh shit.

21 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:02:20pm

re: #17 hopperandadropper
Nope, unfortunetly, that message will be lost due to the nut jobs that the media will focus on. On purpose to be sure.

22 Randall Gross  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:02:52pm

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

Blowback was a dead giveaway dude.

23 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:03:10pm

re: #10 pingjockey

Reality bites! Very hard. Luap Nor is NOT a credible leader for rational people.

There are some libertarian values that hold appeal to me. There's no way that I could ever associate myself with the idiocy of the Paul movement. Perhaps if they had attached themselves ot someone that appeared sane, their message would resonate with the people. Now, they are a laughingstock to all but their echo chamber.

So there you go, rightwingconspirator, there's the voice of someone who is disgusted with the Republican brand. I'm up for grabs. But you follow a nut.

24 Shug  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:03:13pm

re: #17 hopperandadropper

Well, what do you expect from Glenn Beck? But I'll tell you, you're chasing a red herring if you think the Tea Party thing is somehow a Paulian movement. Why do you persist in thinking that only fringe types are concerned about the direction Obama and Congress are currently taking, and looking for a way to make that known? They're trying to cram socialism down our throats and create an incomprehensible level of public debt in the process. Is objecting to that somehow flaky?



sure about that?

25 BlueCanuck  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:03:37pm

re: #18 Bloodnok

Prediction for the life of this thread.

Act I: Overture, featuring Righteous Indignation.

Act II: Dance of the Paulian Troll

i. Flounceoff in 11/8
ii. The Wielding of the Stick (solo by Mr. S. Beaumont)

INTERMISSION and snacks

Act III: Regaining the Ship

Act IV: There's Killgore...GET HIM!

curtain

Snacks provided courtesy of S. Beaumont. :)

26 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:04:03pm

re: #13 Truck Monkey

All in all he's just another brick in the wall.

/I always wanted to reply to you with this saying.

...livin' on the dark side of the moon. ;-)

27 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:04:03pm

Wow, Paulians are quick tonight.

28 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:04:31pm

re: #18 Bloodnok

Lol.

29 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:04:50pm
30 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:05:40pm

But..but...but... :lip quiver: I was told the T-parties were full of nuthin' but True Conservative PatriotsTM!
/

31 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:06:00pm

re: #15 LrdGrizzly

I didn't vote for Ron Paul. I voted for John McCain. The next time I vote there damn well be someone worth voting for or I might have to vote for a 'Ron Paul.'
He couldn't have done anymore damage to this country than Obama is , has or will do.
Libertarianism is looking better every day to me.

Sure, libertarianism is looking good. Ron Paul is scary. Find someone with a bit of sanity to lead your party and your membership may increase. Oh ...and purge yourself of the Paulbots too, they're dragging you down too. Too bad between the lot your message is ruined.

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:06:12pm

re: #18 Bloodnok

How long have you been working on that? Was worth the sweat.

I'll see you in the morning when I hit, top 10 comments. Awesome.

G'night folks!

33 itellu3times  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:06:20pm

"I want a clean cup", said the Mad Paulster, "let's all move one seat to the right".

34 Shug  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:06:26pm

Any recent Blimp sightings?

35 Bloodnok  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:06:49pm

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How long have you been working on that? Was worth the sweat.

I'll see you in the morning when I hit, top 10 comments. Awesome.

G'night folks!

2 minutes. I had a Buzzsawmonkey moment.

36 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:07:00pm

re: #23 pink freud
I have no idea what I'm going to do in 2010. It seems the GOP is hell bent on going totally social conservative, with which I vehemently oppose. Small gov't. Stay out of peoples personal business, strong military, quit spending money so that drunken sailors are embarressed. I guess that is too much to ask.

37 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:07:08pm

If you ckeck the referrers list it seems they're coming from a Paulian message board called AnandTech.

38 itellu3times  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:07:35pm

re: #36 pingjockey

I have no idea what I'm going to do in 2010. It seems the GOP is hell bent on going totally social conservative, with which I vehemently oppose. Small gov't. Stay out of peoples personal business, strong military, quit spending money so that drunken sailors are embarressed. I guess that is too much to ask.

Run for office?

39 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:07:38pm

re: #16 pingjockey

Is a velcortian like those thingys the Scientologists claim are a gazilion years old?

Is that what those are? I've got a couple and they will not go away.

40 Truck Monkey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:08:01pm

re: #26 pink freud

...livin' on the dark side of the moon. ;-)

There is no pain you are receding
A distant ship, smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.
When I was a child I had a fever
My hands felt just like two balloons.
Now I've got that feeling once again
I can't explain you would not understand
This is not how I am.
I have become comfortably numb.

41 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:08:01pm

That video has cast a Paul over the entire thread.

42 hopperandadropper  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:08:13pm

re: #24 Shug

All I can say is, I'm concerned about it, I went to a tea party on April 15 in Southlake, TX, I think Ron Paul is an ass, and I didn't see any evidence of Paulians dominating or seriously influencing the proceedings.

I'm assuming you're not a Ron Paul fan, so tell me: aren't you seriously concerned about the issues I mentioned? Don't you think that level of concern needs to be expressed, forcefully and right away?

43 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:08:23pm

re: #36 pingjockey

I have no idea what I'm going to do in 2010. It seems the GOP is hell bent on going totally social conservative, with which I vehemently oppose. Small gov't. Stay out of peoples personal business, strong military, quit spending money so that drunken sailors are embarressed. I guess that is too much to ask.

When you find it, let me know. I'll join.

44 Randall Gross  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:08:29pm

Gary Hubbell, Closet Racialist?

In election 2008, don’t forget Angry White Man

/or coming out?

45 okiej  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:09:07pm

I wish RP didn't make a bit of sense on some issues. It muddies the view of all the landmines surrounding him. One can see enough of them to stay away though. If you try.

46 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:09:19pm

re: #36 pingjockey

I have no idea what I'm going to do in 2010. It seems the GOP is hell bent on going totally social conservative, with which I vehemently oppose. Small gov't. Stay out of peoples personal business, strong military, quit spending money so that drunken sailors are embarressed. I guess that is too much to ask.

When 52% of the people seem to like the nanny state teet, I'm beginning to think so.

That is until it all collapses and we get to build it all again.

47 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:09:31pm

re: #38 itellu3times
I'm doing ok here in eastern Wa. No loonies on the right and the counties are red, red, red. It is the other side of the Cascades that is frakkin' blue.

48 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:09:46pm

re: #41 Spare O'Lake

That video has cast a Paul over the entire thread.

That's just the Ron g thing to say.

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:09:51pm

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dang it! What's with you Lizards always changing your avatars? For a second there I thought you were JCM.

50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:10:07pm

re: #40 Truck Monkey

My favorite PF song.

51 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:10:14pm

"They block Fox News like it's porn or something".

Conspiracy Porn, 5-6.

52 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:10:27pm

re: #43 pink freud
I will. IIRC, Sharmuta and some other have brought this dilemma up.

53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:10:34pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

shit.

54 Truck Monkey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:11:30pm

re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My favorite PF song.

PF rap is almost as good as Steely Dan rap and it makes much more sense!

55 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:11:32pm

re: #46 jcm
If there is anything left to rebuild, or the means to do it with!

56 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:11:48pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

Dang it! What's with you Lizards always changing your avatars? For a second there I thought you were JCM.

If I changed my I would be able to find my own comments.

57 Shug  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:12:14pm

re: #42 hopperandadropper

All I can say is, I'm concerned about it, I went to a tea party on April 15 in Southlake, TX, I think Ron Paul is an ass, and I didn't see any evidence of Paulians dominating or seriously influencing the proceedings.

I'm assuming you're not a Ron Paul fan, so tell me: aren't you seriously concerned about the issues I mentioned? Don't you think that level of concern needs to be expressed, forcefully and right away?

those are two different issues entirely.

Opposition to President Obama's agenda does not preclude me from opposition to wacky Ron Paul and his Paulian loons.

58 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:12:15pm

Today is my unBrithday.

59 Shug  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:12:32pm

re: #58 SasquatchOnSteroids

Today is my unBrithday.

what a small world

60 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:12:53pm

I think libertarians have a place at the table in these discussions, but I wish they weren't represented by a creationist anti-Israel guy like RP.

61 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:12:59pm

So how can one tell they're not surrounded by Paulbots? Do the Paulbots wear special badges or something?

62 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:13:08pm

re: #35 Bloodnok

2 minutes. I had a Buzzsawmonkey moment.

Still it left me ROTFLMAO. Favorited, updinged, and recommended.

63 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:13:18pm

re: #52 pingjockey

I will. IIRC, Sharmuta and some other have brought this dilemma up.

Yep. On that note, I'll add to the list a constitutional amendment for a balanced budget. Another great idea that Sharm's been pushing.

64 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:13:28pm

re: #55 pingjockey

If there is anything left to rebuild, or the means to do it with!

A rifle, 40 acres and a mule.

65 avanti  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:13:38pm

re: #36 pingjockey

I have no idea what I'm going to do in 2010. It seems the GOP is hell bent on going totally social conservative, with which I vehemently oppose. Small gov't. Stay out of peoples personal business, strong military, quit spending money so that drunken sailors are embarressed. I guess that is too much to ask.

I know most on the right hate Meghan McCain, but what about the idea's she has ?

Meghan.

66 mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:13:54pm

I am switching back and forth from Hockey to NASCAR to Basketball. No time for Paulbots tonite. Maybe a good alternative to SNL later. Better comedy probably.

67 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:14:10pm

re: #63 pink freud
I always liked that and the line item veto.

68 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:14:25pm

re: #56 jcm

If I changed my I would be able to find my own comments.

I have that same problem. He he.

69 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:14:26pm

re: #59 Shug

what a small world

A very merry unbirthdaaayyy, to you.

To me ?

To you !

70 MrPaulRevere  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:14:39pm

Is it just me or does Glen Beck remind anyone else of a demented carnival barker ?

71 JacksonTn  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:14:55pm

re: #65 avanti

I know most on the right hate Meghan McCain, but what about the idea's she has ?

Meghan.

avanti ... maybe Meghan wants to star in her own reality show ...

72 NelsFree  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:15:00pm

re: #18 Bloodnok

Prediction for the life of this thread.

Act I: Overture, featuring Righteous Indignation.

Act II: Dance of the Paulian Troll

i. Flounceoff in 11/8
ii. The Wielding of the Stick (solo by Mr. S. Beaumont)

INTERMISSION and snacks

Act III: Regaining the Ship

Act IV: There's Killgore...GET HIM!

curtain

Curse your veracity! Upding!

73 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:15:12pm

The Paulian did the usual ranting about the Constitution. Sadly Paulian's bizarre interpretations of the Constitution seem to be gaining ground.

74 Randall Gross  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:15:14pm

The Gary Hubbell article posted above got replastered across almost the entire Paulosphere btw.

75 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:15:44pm

re: #66 mich-again

I am switching back and forth from Hockey to NASCAR to Basketball. No time for Paulbots tonite. Maybe a good alternative to SNL later. Better comedy probably.

4th quarter..7th game..does it get any better lizards?

76 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:15:49pm

re: #60 Liberal Classic

I think libertarians have a place at the table in these discussions, but I wish they weren't represented by a creationist anti-Israel guy like RP.

They aren't represented by him, he's just co-opted their name. Ron Paul is the GOP's resident troll. Michael Steele needs to take a lesson from Charles and give Luap Nor a taste of the Ban Stick.

77 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:16:16pm

re: #65 avanti

I know most on the right hate Meghan McCain, but what about the idea's she has ?

Meghan.

If it doesn't involve an intimate evening of drinks and... with The Behemoth, then I don't want to hear it.

78 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:16:25pm

re: #65 avanti
How do you know 'most' on the right hate her? I knew she was Johns' daughter and she brings up some good points.

79 funky chicken  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:16:45pm

re: #19 Spare O'Lake

Wow.
Beck and his handpicked audience stooges are such an embarrassment.
Just wow.

I feel the same way about Miss California. But "conservatives" are falling all over themselves to make her the new face of the GOP.

Good God. I left the GOP back around 1990 when the Operation Rescue freaks took over the party in KS. I didn't even vote in 2000 because it was a choice between two dimbulb 2nd generation spoiled politicians' sons. I'm glad W won and would have voted for him if I'd known that Al Gore was and is crazy.

But the GOP has gone off the rails nationally, just like they did in KS and MO back when I was in college. It's like deja vu, or watching a train wreck in slow motion.

sorry for rambling, but DAMN.

80 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:16:46pm

re: #65 avanti

I know most on the right hate Meghan McCain, but what about the idea's she has ?

Meghan.

Let me put it this way, avanti. You know how so many sneered at Palin and considered her to be a lighweight? Meghan McCain doesn't have what it takes to shine Palin's shoes.

81 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:17:18pm

re: #67 pingjockey

I always liked that and the line item veto.

Term limits.

82 freetoken  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:17:19pm
[...] imagine my surprise when several of them turn out to be Ron Paul acolytes.
83 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:17:43pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

The Paulian did the usual ranting about the Constitution. Sadly Paulian's bizarre interpretations of the Constitution seem to be gaining ground.

And now the sickness is spreading into Constitution Law. Oh, woe that I should live in such times! [sobs]

84 gmsc  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:17:55pm

US APNewsAlert
15 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A spokeswoman says Jack Kemp, a former quarterback, congressman and one-time vice-presidential nominee, has died.

85 Truck Monkey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:18:07pm

re: #80 pink freud

Let me put it this way, avanti. You know how so many sneered at Palin and considered her to be a lighweight? Meghan McCain doesn't have what it takes to shine Palin's shoes.

I would probably pay to see it though!

86 avanti  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:18:25pm

re: #78 pingjockey

How do you know 'most' on the right hate her? I knew she was Johns' daughter and she brings up some good points.

OK, just reading too many right wing blogs I guess, they've been pretty harsh.

87 JacksonTn  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:18:25pm

re: #80 pink freud

Pink ... can you email me ...

88 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:18:28pm

re: #80 pink freud

Yeah, but she can polish my...

/shit, better quit before I get whacked...

89 countrygurl  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:18:39pm

...for any Paulians out there...just look beyond the part where Ron Paul criticized the Republican Party as having abandoned its principles of limited constitutional government and you will quickly see how crazy he is.

How about the part where he
1) called for abolition of many federal institutions including the FBI and DEA,
2) called for the repeal of the federal income tax
3) called for the abolition of all social security
3) end the war on drugs

Sounds a little like anarchy to me, not liberty.

90 funky chicken  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:18:47pm

re: #38 itellu3times

Run for office?

Sorry to say this, but it'll be damn hard for a non-creationist to get support from the grassroots of the GOP in many areas. They really have taken over much of the party apparatus on the local level, IMHO.

As a military spouse, I'd love to be proved wrong, really, really I would.

91 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:19:13pm

re: #81 pink freud
The people of Wa state passed that law and the pols went to court and the state supreme court said it was unconstitutional. That was about the time I lost any faith in any elected official, save for a very few.

92 doppelganglander  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:19:58pm

Are these audience members left over from Luntz's Dunces?

93 Idle Drifter  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:20:09pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

Me thinks they message each other to swarm LGF.

94 funky chicken  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:20:38pm

re: #65 avanti

I know most on the right hate Meghan McCain, but what about the idea's she has ?

Meghan.

Anybody have a link to the post Charles did a while back featuring Meghan McCain wearing her fashionable kaffeih or however you spell it? She's a silly, pop-culture obsessed, spoiled young woman who is as embarrassing as Carrie Prejean, IMHO.

95 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:21:00pm

re: #90 funky chicken
I am in north central Wa state, more churches than bars. Our elected folks, so far, have not espoused this creationist nonsense.

96 Idle Drifter  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:21:12pm

re: #58 SasquatchOnSteroids

It IS!

97 MrPaulRevere  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:21:37pm

re: #84 gmsc

I'm sorry hear that, I knew he was battling cancer. Jack Kemp was a good man, a man of ideas.

98 itellu3times  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:21:42pm

re: #90 funky chicken

Sorry to say this, but it'll be damn hard for a non-creationist to get support from the grassroots of the GOP in many areas. They really have taken over much of the party apparatus on the local level, IMHO.

As a military spouse, I'd love to be proved wrong, really, really I would.

Fooey. Run with a positive agenda and ignore the creationist issue, and see what happens.

I put the real onus of the republicans on the individual candidates, not some hazy institution.

99 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:22:04pm

re: #87 JacksonTn

Done. Gmail addy.

100 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:22:08pm

re: #75 HoosierHoops

4th quarter..7th game..does it get any better lizards?

Good stuff. I've been paying attention to your guy Noah. He is a perpetual motion machine, tis true. I'll take me some Big Baby though. Traditional, a beast in the making he is.

101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:22:22pm

re: #84 gmsc

Thanks.

102 JacksonTn  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:22:33pm

re: #99 pink freud

PF ... yes ...

103 funky chicken  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:22:35pm

re: #78 pingjockey

The hotair crowd

despise

her.

104 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:22:38pm

re: #65 avanti

Going to be completely honest here--Meghan McCain would have to really shine and be brilliant for me to want to see her in public office.

I feel we have too many political dynasties now. America was always supposed to be about the Abraham Lincolns, the Andrew Jacksons, and so on. Theses men (or women) were leaders just from their abilities, not because of their family name. The Adamses were supposed to be a fluke, not the norm.

If a child of a politician has the brilliance to succeed politically (Mitt Romney) then great, but we are America, where you are supposed to succeed on your own merits.

105 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:22:46pm

re: #94 funky chicken
I know just what I read in the linked article, that is it.

106 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:22:55pm
107 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:23:27pm

re: #106 sjmiller
Fuck off! Go piss up a rope.

108 freetoken  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:23:42pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Mere sheep . . . mere sheep. I mean the Charles supporters.

Hmmm...?

109 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:23:52pm

re: #79 funky chicken

I feel the same way about Miss California.

But at least she's sexy and beautiful.
Beck *retch* not so much/

110 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:24:05pm

re: #100 The Shadow Do

Good stuff. I've been paying attention to your guy Noah. He is a perpetual motion machine, tis true. I'll take me some Big Baby though. Traditional, a beast in the making he is.

I loved Big Baby in College..Just a joy to watch..He is just like Barkley isn't he? Wide..quick...good shot..kick your ass in the hole..

111 Gitarzan  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:24:08pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Mere sheep . . . mere sheep. I mean the Charles supporters.

Sod off, swampy...you probably wouldn't know a clue if it bit you in the ass!

112 Bloodnok  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:24:11pm

re: #106 sjmiller

You're out of step. 11/8 is a tough tempo, though.

113 NelsFree  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:24:12pm

re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth

If it doesn't involve an intimate evening of drinks and... with The Behemoth, then I don't want to hear it.

So, you lookin' for a date?

114 freetoken  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:24:17pm

re: #107 pingjockey

Fuck off! Go piss up a rope.

That's trademarked!

115 Conservative Moonbat  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:24:21pm

We block Fox news too.

The first time I was old enough to vote I voted for Harry Browne for president, most because of the drug legalization issues but got into the general pro-liberty concept of the libertarian party. I was young and stupid and he was better than Bill Clinton. I was into the Ron Paul thing for about two weeks then I figured out who he was (racist, anti-choice, black helicopter freak, etc). I still consider myself more a left libertarian than anything else. I'm fine with state run social services but like them as decentralized as possible, etc.

I can halfway relate to the Ron Paul crowd and halfway think they are on another planet.

I'm one of about 4 people on earth who really got behind Mike Gravel.

It seems like there would be a place somewhere between the two parties for non-insane little-l libertarians.

116 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:24:35pm

re: #110 HoosierHoops

I loved Big Baby in College..Just a joy to watch..He is just like Barkley isn't he? Wide..quick...good shot..kick your ass in the hole..

Yup

117 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:24:45pm

10 comments in 3 years.

118 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:24:46pm

re: #94 funky chicken

A facebook phenomena. We don't need another child running things.

119 MandyManners  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:25:10pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Fuck you.

120 avanti  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:25:24pm

re: #104 EmmmieG

Going to be completely honest here--Meghan McCain would have to really shine and be brilliant for me to want to see her in public office.


I wasn't thinking of her running for anything, she just seemed to have some good ideas. Trying to find ideas that have crossover appeal I guess.

121 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:25:26pm

re: #114 freetoken
I'm older than Mandy, so there! Age wise. Heard that one from granpa.

122 CynicalConservative  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:25:27pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Whose sock are you?

123 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:25:54pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Do you feel better now ?

124 itellu3times  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:26:00pm

re: #122 CynicalConservative

Whose sock are you?

With a hole in it.

125 funky chicken  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:26:17pm

re: #89 countrygurl

...for any Paulians out there...just look beyond the part where Ron Paul criticized the Republican Party as having abandoned its principles of limited constitutional government and you will quickly see how crazy he is.

How about the part where he
1) called for abolition of many federal institutions including the FBI and DEA,
2) called for the repeal of the federal income tax
3) called for the abolition of all social security
3) end the war on drugs

Sounds a little like anarchy to me, not liberty.

And yet he is a pretty rabid pro-lifer. Cognitive dissonance much?

I don't get the appeal. The guy hangs out and gladhands Stormfront goons, looks like an escapee from a luny bin, has a terrible speaking voice, and espouses bizarre anti-Semitic and anti-American opinions on foreign policy.

Why would anybody find that attractive or interesting enough to support financially?

126 Randall Gross  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:26:20pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Here's something for you to read. Gary Hubbell's "Angry White Man" article came after this one:

Angry White Man

"The rhetoric when it came to Jews was little better. The newsletters display an obsession with Israel; no other country is mentioned more often in the editions I saw, or with more vitriol. A 1987 issue of Paul's Investment Letter called Israel "an aggressive, national socialist state," and a 1990 newsletter discussed the "tens of thousands of well-placed friends of Israel in all countries who are willing to wok [sic] for the Mossad in their area of expertise." Of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, a newsletter said, "Whether it was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little."

And anti-government paranoia here:

"Paul's newsletters didn't just contain bigotry. They also contained paranoia--specifically, the brand of anti-government paranoia that festered among right-wing militia groups during the 1980s and '90s. Indeed, the newsletters seemed to hint that armed revolution against the federal government would be justified. In January 1995, three months before right-wing militants bombed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, a newsletter listed "Ten Militia Commandments," describing "the 1,500 local militias now training to defend liberty" as "one of the most encouraging developments in America." It warned militia members that they were "possibly under BATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms] or other totalitarian federal surveillance" and printed bits of advice from the Sons of Liberty, an anti-government militia based in Alabama--among them, "You can't kill a Hydra by cutting off its head," "Keep the group size down," "Keep quiet and you're harder to find," "Leave no clues," "Avoid the phone as much as possible," and "Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.""

127 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:26:26pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Buh-bye.

128 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:26:52pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Mere sheep . . . mere sheep. I mean the Charles supporters.

You a sheep lover? hmmm?

129 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:27:04pm

re: #117 pingjockey

10 comments in 3 years.

I do that in 3 minutes..but some people say I talk too much..
Hiya Ping!

130 SteveC  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:27:12pm

re: #19 Spare O'Lake

Wow.
Beck and his handpicked audience stooges are such an embarrassment.
Just wow.

HEY!

Don't be dissin' the Stooges. Slapstick comedy at it's finest!

131 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:27:17pm

re: #122 CynicalConservative

Whose sock are you?

I found a sock like that once, got left in a gym bag, which got forgotten in the trunk for six months.

132 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:27:27pm

re: #75 HoosierHoops

4th quarter..7th game..does it get any better lizards?

Scalabrini reminds me of Will Ferrell in Semi-Pro

133 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:27:44pm

re: #129 HoosierHoops
Hiya back! What's the score. I've lost the remote since I'm here!

134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:27:49pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Coward.

135 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:27:57pm

re: #109 Spare O'Lake

But at least she's sexy and beautiful.
Beck *retch* not so much/

Haven't we had enough of the "sexy and beautiful" thing in the last 100 days to last us all a lifetime?

136 gmsc  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:27:59pm

re: #129 HoosierHoops

I do that in 3 minutes..but some people say I talk too much..
Hiya Ping!

I think HoosierHoops talks too . . . *OW*!
;)

137 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:28:08pm

re: #125 funky chicken

And yet he is a pretty rabid pro-lifer. Cognitive dissonance much?

I don't get the appeal. The guy hangs out and gladhands Stormfront goons, looks like an escapee from a luny bin, has a terrible speaking voice, and espouses bizarre anti-Semitic and anti-American opinions on foreign policy.

Why would anybody find that attractive or interesting enough to support financially?

I'm still trying to figure out why Obama got so many votes after his associations were exposed.

138 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:28:27pm

re: #106 sjmiller

FOAD

139 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:28:30pm

re: #133 pingjockey

Hiya back! What's the score. I've lost the remote since I'm here!

81-89 Celtics...6 min left nail biting time

140 NelsFree  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:28:36pm

re: #79 funky chicken

I feel the same way about Miss California. .


She spoker her mind and expressed her personally held belief, which is also held by a majority of Americans. How does that bother you?

141 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:28:40pm

Ha! "They blocked Fox News, as if it's like porn or something".

It all depends on who the host is at any given time.

/populist pr0n

142 Idle Drifter  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:28:51pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Mere sheep . . . mere sheep. I mean the Charles supporters.

I am just a poor little sheep who has lost his way, bah, Bah, BAH!

143 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:28:58pm

re: #139 HoosierHoops
Keep us updated, or me anyway!

144 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:29:00pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

They aren't represented by him, he's just co-opted their name. Ron Paul is the GOP's resident troll. Michael Steele needs to take a lesson from Charles and give Luap Nor a taste of the Ban Stick.

I'm not sure I agree. He has historical ties to the Libertarian Party, being their presidential candidate in 1988. Even though he rejoined the Republican Party, the Texas LP does not field candidates in TX-14 out of deference. I think he does represent the libertarian position to a lot of people. That having been said, I don't feel Ron Paul represents me very well at all. I consider myself libertarian (or at least I have strong leanings) but I can't stomach Paul on science (he's a creationist) or foreign policy (I'm a hawk and pro-Israel).

145 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:29:00pm

re: #128 pink freud

You a sheep lover? hmmm?

I wonder if he's from around here...

146 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:29:21pm

89-83 celtics in the 4th

147 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:30:27pm

re: #113 NelsFree

I happen to think she is cute as a button, and The Behemoth sure ain't afraid of a gal with a little extra junk in the trunk.

148 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:30:37pm

Did it leave?

149 Noam Sayin'  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:30:40pm

re: #66 mich-again

Thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting how good NASCAR looks in HD.

150 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:30:46pm

re: #145 jcm

I wonder if he's from around here...

Good Lord.
Un
Freakin'
Believable

WTF. I stopped after the 2nd paragraph. No more of that.

151 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:30:57pm

Here's a repost of buzzsawmonkey's classic tune for trolls like sjmiller:

A cautionary tale, from earlier:

Flounce to the Exit
--to the tune of "Waltzing Mathilda"

Once a jolly moby registered to comment here
Waited and lurked upon threads patiently
And he sang as he watched and waited for his exit cue,
"You'll see me flounce to the exit shortly."

"Flounce to the exit
Flounce to the exit
I'm going to flounce to the exit shortly"
And he sang as he watched and waited for his exit cue,
"You'll see me flounce to the exit shortly."

Up came a thread that took apart creationists
Up came a thread debunking conspiracies
And he sang as his comments became more and more abusive,
"You'll see me flounce to the exit shortly."

"Flounce to the exit
Flounce to the exit
I'm going to flounce to the exit shortly"
And he sang as his comments became more and more abusive,
"You'll see me flounce to the exit shortly."

Up came Charles Johnson with the banning stick in hand
Flanked on his side by formidable Stinky
"May I suggest that you moderate your posting style?
Else I will show you the exit shortly."

"Show you the exit
Show you the exit
Else I will show you the exit shortly
May I suggest that you moderate your posting style?
Else I will show you the exit shortly."

Up reared the moby, and ripped out a parting screed
"Here's what I think--I dare you to ban me!"
But not even a ghost of his words remains on the board
After he flounced to the exit shortly

Flounced to the exit
Flounced to the exit
Leaving a rant behind for all to see
But not even a ghost of his words remains on the board
After he flounced to the exit shortly

152 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:31:01pm

re: #120 avanti

I wasn't thinking of her running for anything, she just seemed to have some good ideas. Trying to find ideas that have crossover appeal I guess.

I appreciate the effort. I also appreciate that you have the courage to stay with your own ideas here, even when you are unpopular for it.

That said, she's 24 and was born with the assurance that she will always have what she will want. Find me a 24 year-old who has had to support him/her self since adulthood, who paid for college and knows how to work. That's who I want to hear from.

153 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:31:02pm

re: #145 jcm

I wonder if he's from around here...

Ruh roh. Exactly.

154 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:31:19pm

re: #149 Noam Sayin'

Thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting how good NASCAR looks in HD.

And how great it sounds LOUD.

155 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:31:29pm

re: #149 Noam Sayin'
ESPN had the tv I want, 60+ inches, 6 screens in it. Yeah!

156 Conservative Moonbat  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:31:42pm

re: #104 EmmmieG

Going to be completely honest here--Meghan McCain would have to really shine and be brilliant for me to want to see her in public office.

I feel we have too many political dynasties now. America was always supposed to be about the Abraham Lincolns, the Andrew Jacksons, and so on. Theses men (or women) were leaders just from their abilities, not because of their family name. The Adamses were supposed to be a fluke, not the norm.

What about a unity--dynasty ticket. Meghan McCain with one of the Gore daughters. Or Chelsea Clinton.

157 itellu3times  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:31:47pm

re: #135 pink freud

Haven't we had enough of the "sexy and beautiful" thing in the last 100 days to last us all a lifetime?

Er, no, not hardly.

In fact, could (always!) use more of the real thing, not the ersatz I guess you're referring to.

158 avanti  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:31:54pm

re: #119 MandyManners

Fuck you.

Mandy a little present for you. Susan Boyle 1984.

159 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:31:54pm

re: #150 SasquatchOnSteroids

Good Lord.
Un
Freakin'
Believable

WTF. I stopped after the 2nd paragraph. No more of that.

Not far from Seattle... about 40 miles from me.

160 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:32:04pm

re: #143 pingjockey

Keep us updated, or me anyway!

Will do sir..I'm sitting through the 10000 Gieko Commercial in the last hour..I swear to gawd if gieko was the last insurance company in the world I'd buy a bike...If I see just one more Gieko commer...AHHHGAAHHH

161 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:32:04pm

re: #147 Slumbering Behemoth

I happen to think she is cute as a button, and The Behemoth sure ain't afraid of a gal with a little extra junk in the trunk.

We already have junk in the trunk! 100 days' worth!

But I won't begrudge you your fun, SB. :-)

162 DEZes  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:32:28pm

re: #106 sjmiller

Project often asshole?

163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:32:34pm

re: #147 Slumbering Behemoth

That always sounds so...so... scatological.

164 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:32:45pm

just added a point for the bulls from the first quarter

165 funky chicken  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:32:47pm

re: #109 Spare O'Lake

Dude, I dunno. Something about her screams CRAZY to me. I put link up earlier to a kinda close-up shot of her face earlier, and she's got those crazy eyes goin' on. It could be the starvation diet...she's got skeletal arms and you can see her ribs, etc.

And she sure is pushing for the full 15 minutes of fame thing.

Yeah, she's more attractive than Glenn Beck or Ron Paul, but that doesn't make her a good choice as the voice or face of the GOP.

166 Truck Monkey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:32:50pm

re: #147 Slumbering Behemoth

I happen to think she is cute as a button, and The Behemoth sure ain't afraid of a gal with a little extra junk in the trunk.

It's better actually!

167 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:32:50pm

re: #153 pink freud
That's just wrong! Heh.

168 SteveC  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:33:09pm

re: #117 pingjockey

10 comments in 3 years.

Like this guy I know that joined a monastery. The Priest told him that all the monks took a vow of silence, but he could speak two words every five years. My buddy agreed and joined.

At the end of his first five years, he said "Room cold!"

Five years later, he said "Bed hard!"

At the end of the 15th year, he said "I quit!"

The priest rolled his eyes and said "Doesn't surprise me, you haven't done anything but complain since you got here!"

169 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:33:31pm
170 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:34:02pm

re: #168 SteveC
Heh! I heard that one! It fits.

171 NelsFree  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:34:13pm

re: #115 Conservative Moonbat

We block Fox news too.
I don't block any news source, I can ignore it just fine.
I'm fine with state run social services but like them as decentralized as possible, etc.
Decentralized State-Run is an oxymoron

I can halfway relate to the Ron Paul crowd and halfway think they are on another planet.
Now THAT'S fence straddling of the highest order!

I'm one of about 4 people on earth who really got behind Mike Gravel.
Could you list the three others? Thought not.

It seems like there would be a place somewhere between the two parties for non-insane little-l libertarians.


McDonald's, in back by the fryers

172 NelsFree  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:34:56pm

re: #140 NelsFree

spoker>spoke
PIMF

173 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:34:56pm

re: #156 Conservative Moonbat

What about a unity--dynasty ticket. Meghan McCain with one of the Gore daughters. Or Chelsea Clinton.

Slogan: Don't worry about Campaign Finance, we're putting this on Daddy's credit card.

174 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:34:59pm

re: #141 Slumbering Behemoth

Ha! "They blocked Fox News, as if it's like porn or something".

It all depends on who the host is at any given time.

/populist pr0n

I also find it highly amusing that that woman is so full of righteous indignation over what other private citizens watch on their own damn tv in their own damn homes.

Like many of the so called "moral majority", she's a Big Nanny Stater and doesn't even know it.

175 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:35:04pm
176 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:35:13pm

OMG ..Turn on the game..5 minutes left..and it just may be the greatest game 7 of the best series of all time..

177 countrygurl  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:35:40pm

re: #125 funky chicken

Why would anybody find that attractive or interesting enough to support financially?


Hmmm...because they believe:
individuals = good
government = evil
?

178 JacksonTn  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:35:45pm

re: #9 pink freud

Pink ... I emailed ...

179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:35:54pm

No matter what way this game ends...nothing to be ashamed of.

Don't think either team will make it past the next series. They'll have to be spent.

180 Noam Sayin'  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:36:19pm

re: #154 Mich-again

And how great it sounds LOUD.

650 watts of 5.1 surround...

181 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:36:40pm

re: #175 SJmiller

GAZE

182 JacksonTn  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:37:24pm

re: #175 SJmiller

SJmiller ... you are killing my buzz ... please stop ...

183 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:37:41pm

re: #175 SJmiller
You obviously did not read what I posted about fiscal conservatism, strong military, etc...We do not need creation taught in schools, nor legalized drug use, anti-Semitism that the Paulians bring.

184 DEZes  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:37:43pm

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

GAZE

I am sure of it. his first two initials stand for slimy jerk.

185 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:37:59pm

re: #175 SJmiller

Don't go away..I fired up the BBQ..3 minutes left in the game..

186 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:37:59pm

re: #176 HoosierHoops

OMG ..Turn on the game..5 minutes left..and it just may be the greatest game 7 of the best series of all time..

Bulls are losing it...toast

187 Aye Pod  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:38:19pm

re: #153 pink freud

Ruh roh. Exactly.

San Francisco - A man died of internal injuries from sex with a stallion at a ranch used by a bestiality ring, police in the northwestern United States state of Washington said on Monday.

The man suffered fatal trauma while being sodomised by a stallion at a stud farm that catered to men who wanted sex with animals, Enumclaw Police Commander Eric Sortland told AFP.

I like how the reporter on that story is careful to break the more appalling details of that story gently to the reader, doesn't just offload all the shit in the first couple of lines or anything like that./

188 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:38:27pm

re: #162 DEZes

Ain't it funny how the 'sheeple' are only 'sheeple' when they don't agree with the dumb ass that tosses the term around.

189 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:38:46pm

I think a blogger could make quite a nice living doing nothing but pissing off Paulians. Traffic would be through the roof. I'll do it if someone want to subsidize the venture.
/trying to avoid getting a real job

190 MJ  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:38:53pm

Sorry if this has been posted:

Jack Kemp has died.

191 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:38:56pm

re: #186 The Shadow Do

not over yet

192 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:39:01pm

re: #185 HoosierHoops

Don't go away..I fired up the BBQ..3 minutes left in the game..

I'll go get the soda and chips. What would everyone like?

193 doppelganglander  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:39:39pm

re: #142 Idle Drifter

I am just a poor little sheep who has lost his way, bah, Bah, BAH!

I was looking for a nice You Tube video of "Someone to Watch Over Me" ("I'm a little lamb that's lost her way..."). It turns out every annoying douchebag in America has videotaped himself/herself singing this song very, very badly.

194 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:39:46pm

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

I'll go get the soda and chips. What would everyone like?

Black cherry soda, please. I haven't allowed one in my real house since I stained a carpet.

195 BlueCanuck  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:39:53pm

re: #175 SJmiller

There is a lot of dissent here. Can't call us sheeple. We just seem to agree on one thing. Idiots can't be allowed to run the country. Idiots like Luap Nor and YEC. Apparently you don't seem to agree with that.

196 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:39:58pm

re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That always sounds so...so... scatological.

Look, JCM, if I've told you once I've told you... oh, wait, you're FBV. Never mind.

/only ribbing ya, bro

197 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:40:35pm

re: #175 SJmiller

WTF? You insult a room and wonder why you're not the prom queen?

198 doppelganglander  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:40:42pm

re: #175 SJmiller

little r conservationism

What is that, exactly?

199 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:41:01pm

re: #169 Iron Fist

You've got your shit together, Iron Fist, and I love reading your posts. Just wanted you to know.

200 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:41:05pm

re: #187 Jimmah

I like how the reporter on that story is careful to break the more appalling details of that story gently to the reader, doesn't just offload all the shit in the first couple of lines or anything like that./

I saw the video and I am scarred for life just watching it. Did he win the Darwin Award for that?

201 gmsc  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:41:11pm

re: #84 gmsc

US APNewsAlert
15 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A spokeswoman says Jack Kemp, a former quarterback, congressman and one-time vice-presidential nominee, has died.

re: #190 MJ

Sorry if this has been posted:

Jack Kemp has died.

It's been posted, but you are helping the news get out.

R.I.P. Jack Kemp.

202 Macker  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:41:12pm

Y'know, I'm beginning to wonder if Beck deliberately broke his CNN contract to go play havoc with Fox...

203 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:41:20pm

re: #191 gtrs

not over yet

In all the history of Basketball series.. They have the record at 7..I expect overtime tonight..Chicago is a force to be recon'd with..Next year they win the whole thing..

204 BlueCanuck  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:41:31pm

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

I'll go get the soda and chips. What would everyone like?

Try to find me some ginger beer. It will go nicely with my amber rum I have waiting for me.

/2 hours till I can crack that bottle.

205 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:41:39pm

re: #197 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WTF? You insult a room and wonder why you're not the prom queen?

I wish I could upding that more than once.

206 Spare O'Lake  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:41:55pm

re: #135 pink freud

Haven't we had enough of the "sexy and beautiful" thing in the last 100 days to last us all a lifetime?

Nope.
At least not if the thing is actually sexy and beautiful.
/Sorry, got a severe weakness for feminine pulchritude.

207 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:42:01pm

re: #166 Truck Monkey

It's better actually!

Sometimes it is. I like skinny gals too, though. Heck, I pretty much like just about every type of woman there is.

208 Truck Monkey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:42:02pm

re: #197 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WTF? You insult a room and wonder why you're not the prom queen?

No. More like coming into Charles' house and dropping a deuce on the carpet and then getting mad that people noticed.

209 SteveC  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:42:19pm

re: #175 SJmiller

If someone can show me where the president has the executive power (based on the Constitution) to nationalize private businesses and spend worse than Bush please let me know.

Article 12, Paragraph 4: The President shall have the right, through the executive branch, to spend more money than the 43rd occupant of the office of the Presidency. This right shall not be abridged by the people, the several states, the Legislative branch, or the Judicial branch.

Anyone holding the office of President before such time will be allowed to estimate spending by the 43rd occupant and act accordingly.

210 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:42:25pm

re: #197 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WTF? You insult a room and wonder why you're not the prom queen?

If you've got a comment with a karma that far negative and you're invited to be prom queen, look up to check for buckets of pig's blood.

/Just saying...

211 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:42:55pm

re: #175 SJmiller

WTF people? This blog is in love with the bashing of creationists and Ron Paul supporters, but the minute someone says something that is apparently true (if it was not, I would not have got those intellectual responses) all hell breaks loose. Listen . . . I do not wish to get into a tit-tat (this is a great site), but it seems that people who support little r conservationism are some kind of wing nut. Personally, I support the tea parties because they do serve a purpose -- to show the unconstitutional spending and taking over private business. If someone can show me where the president has the executive power (based on the Constitution) to nationalize private businesses and spend worse than Bush please let me know.

It's TIT FOR TAT.

You pooped in the soup already. I don't think anyone's interested.

212 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:43:02pm

re: #169 Iron Fist

Maybe right, I hope not. I try to stay optimistic.

Should it come to that, there will be regions where Liberty prevails.

213 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:43:16pm

re: #175 SJmiller

but it seems that people who support little r conservationism are some kind of wing nut.

What are you talking about?

214 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:43:17pm

Semi-ot: I'm still a little baffled about the connection (or non-connection) between the religious right and the Libertarians. Alex Jones and Lew Rockwell are always pushing the theory that Christians are being persecuted but I don't know if they really believe it. I strongly suspect they're just working the religious right. Philosophically there really shouldn't be a connection.

215 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:43:23pm
216 BlueCanuck  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:44:08pm

re: #211 pink freud

Gone. The wrench dropped on him fairly quick.

/buttock on the Que, just like forcast. Is it intermission yet?

217 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:44:11pm

house is THE player of this game

218 Idle Drifter  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:44:23pm

re: #193 doppelganglander

I was looking for a nice You Tube video of "Someone to Watch Over Me" ("I'm a little lamb that's lost her way..."). It turns out every annoying douchebag in America has videotaped himself/herself singing this song very, very badly.

I found the Black Sheep movie trailer about killer sheep. I couldn't stop laughing at the weresheep villian.

219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:44:34pm

re: #210 EmmmieG

Nice Carrie reference.

My daughter is on the prom court this year. Found out yesterday. She's purdy, but not nearly snooty enough for this school.

Yay! Me!

220 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:44:42pm

Singer Ayman Udas ‘shot by her brothers for TV sin’

A RISING musical star was allegedly shot dead by her own brothers in the conservative city of Peshawar in Pakistan last week after she had appeared on television.

The murder of Ayman Udas, who was in her early thirties and newly married, has shocked the city’s artistic community because it symbolises a backlash against women and cultural freedom in an area that is increasingly dominated by Islamic funda-mentalists.

As a singer and song writer in her native Pashto, the language of the tribal areas and the NorthWest Frontier province, Udas frequently performed on PTV, the state-run channel.

She won considerable acclaim for her songs but had become a musician in the face of bitter opposition from her family, who believed it was sinful for a woman to perform on television.

Ashamed of her growing popularity her two brothers are reported to have entered her flat last week while her husband was out and fired three bullets into her chest. Neither has been caught.

/three cheers for the religion of peace

221 quickjustice  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:44:52pm

Beck didn't exactly select a representative sample of Tea Party participants. There's no doubt that the Paulians must be confronted on their choice of leader.

I still think libertarian ideas should be carefully considered. I don't think libertarians, Truthers, and neo-Nazis are one and the same. If the libertarians can't disassociate themselves from extremists, however, they're cooked.

222 DEZes  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:45:03pm

re: #175 SJmiller

You walk in, and the first thing you do is pick a fight, and then your stupid enough to wonder why your getting your chops busted.
PUSSY!

223 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:45:10pm

re: #194 EmmmieG

Black cherry soda, please. I haven't allowed one in my real house since I stained a carpet.

re: #204 BlueCanuck

Try to find me some ginger beer. It will go nicely with my amber rum I have waiting for me.

/2 hours till I can crack that bottle.

EmmmieG, you got it. BlueCanuck, sorry, I don't provide alcohol. I don't mind if you buy it or bring it, but I don't provide it.

224 SteveC  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:45:40pm

re: #190 MJ

Sorry if this has been posted:

Jack Kemp has died.

*Stands up and removes hat for a moment of silence*

225 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:45:42pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

Meh, you'd make more money doing web pr0n. Amateur sites are really hot right now.

226 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:45:44pm

re: #220 Killian Bundy
Frakkin' savages.

227 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:45:47pm

re: #217 gtrs

house is THE player of this game

You ain't kidding..whoa...House MVP so far...game not over !

228 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:45:56pm

re: #175 SJmiller

Folks who believe in God and his creation get along here just fine.

As long as they don't confuse faith and science.

Luap Nor is a nut, a racist, and his acolytes are the sheep you scorn.

You find no more staunch defenders of Life, Liberty and Property as our founders intended anywhere else.

229 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:46:00pm
230 NelsFree  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:46:02pm

re: #174 Slumbering Behemoth

I also find it highly amusing that that woman is so full of righteous indignation over what other private citizens watch on their own damn tv in their own damn homes.

Like many of the so called "moral majority", she's a Big Nanny Stater and doesn't even know it.


I don't read it that way. She was protesting the BLOCKING of a news source, a limitation of freedom.

231 quickjustice  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:46:07pm

re: #190 MJ

Sorry to hear it. Before Kemp jumped the shark, he was really cool.

232 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:47:11pm

this series in UNF-ING BELIEVEABLE...

233 MrPaulRevere  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:47:12pm

re: #221 quickjustice

Just as the John Birch Society harmed the cause of rational anti-communism, Ron Paul and his supporters are doing serious damage to rational libertarians.

234 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:47:19pm

He is no more! He has ceased to be! He is an ex-SJmiller!

235 Randall Gross  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:47:55pm

re: #175 SJmiller

You opened the door and yelled you are mindless sheep, WTF did you expect dimwit? I gave you a good reply above did you read it?

236 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:48:13pm

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Singer Ayman Udas ‘shot by her brothers for TV sin’

/three cheers for the religion of peace

ROPMA! Her brothers thought they owned her. Scum, both of them. They should have an appointment with the noose for this.

237 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:48:30pm

Pics of the day...
Yahoo pic
Another one
Again here
That's some serious bravery.

238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:48:43pm

re: #235 Thanos

He's dead Jim. You get his tri-corder. I'll get his wallet.

239 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:48:53pm

100-95 CELTICS; 1minute to go...

240 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:48:54pm

re: #216 BlueCanuck

Gone. The wrench dropped on him fairly quick.

/buttock on the Que, just like forcast. Is it intermission yet?

Worst case, I figured it would be the perfect opening for a boob thread ...if nothing else. ;-)

/NOT that I am interested in a boob thread, mind you.

241 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:49:27pm

re: #234 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What? Damn!

242 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:49:59pm

re: #225 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, you're probably right. I've always wanted to start a cult. I think I could be good at that.

243 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:50:14pm

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Singer Ayman Udas ‘shot by her brothers for TV sin’

/three cheers for the religion of peace

Speaking of the RoP...look in your local paper tomorrow...

Wake County residents in three ZIP codes will find a DVD about Islam bundled in their issues of The News & Observer today, as Muslim residents initiate a public relations effort to counteract a controversial DVD distributed in the paper in September.

Today's DVD,"The Fog is Lifting: Islam in Brief," was produced by an Egyptian nonprofit group intent on explaining Islam to non-Muslims. It offers an orthodox defense of Islamic precepts and theology without engaging in issues such as politics or terrorism.

244 BlueCanuck  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:50:30pm

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

Heh, ginger beer is usually found in non-alcoholic varieties here. Think root beer as in naming.

/good mix for dark rum.

245 Aye Pod  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:50:36pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

I think a blogger could make quite a nice living doing nothing but pissing off Paulians. Traffic would be through the roof. I'll do it if someone want to subsidize the venture.
/trying to avoid getting a real job

Ron Paul fans seem to be like the mackerels of the moonbat world. You don't need any fancy lures, just chuck some bare hooks in the water and wait for them to attach themselves. On that basis something like this might work:

"This is RonPaulSucks.com Feel free to leave your comment in the box provided, moron."

246 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:51:22pm

Formula for Chicago win: steal, long bomb. steal, long bomb.

247 DEZes  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:51:46pm

re: #238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's dead Jim. You get his tri-corder. I'll get his wallet.

Can I have his brain, its never been used.
I offer 20 quatloos.

248 Noam Sayin'  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:51:48pm

Six! Gone.

249 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:52:01pm

re: #115 Conservative Moonbat

We block Fox news too.

The first time I was old enough to vote I voted for Harry Browne for president, most because of the drug legalization issues but got into the general pro-liberty concept of the libertarian party. I was young and stupid and he was better than Bill Clinton. I was into the Ron Paul thing for about two weeks then I figured out who he was (racist, anti-choice, black helicopter freak, etc). I still consider myself more a left libertarian than anything else. I'm fine with state run social services but like them as decentralized as possible, etc.

I can halfway relate to the Ron Paul crowd and halfway think they are on another planet.

I'm one of about 4 people on earth who really got behind Mike Gravel.

It seems like there would be a place somewhere between the two parties for non-insane little-l libertarians.

I feel a quite out of place as well. I consider myself a liberal. I don't identify with the Democrats because they are too socialist. I identify more strongly with the fiscal conservatives in the Republican party, but the GOP seems more strongly influenced by the social conservatives today. And the Libertarian Party is a third-party non-factor.

There are three great political traditions in the United States. Originating in New England, the first political tradition views the government as a sacred trust. The second great political tradition views the government as defender of virtue, and has its roots in the Antibellum south. The third great tradition views the government as necessary evil, and is most closely associated with the Old West.

Over time the dominant political parties have represented all three traditions to various extents. Right now, the Democrats have adopted the mantle of sacred trust, as protectors of the weak and bringers of economic security. The social conservatives in the Republican Party have a strong dose of the defender of virtue viewpoint, as advocates for traditional morality and order. Neither major party is strongly influenced by limited government skepticism at the moment.

I'm hoping someone like me has a place here. I'm a fiscal conservative and social liberal. I don't consider myself a fringe person. My views on particular issues aren't themselves extreme. If I am pro-choice, then I must necessarily be for gun control? No, of course not.

Now if you say "libertarian" people think Ron Paul, and that means you're a creationist anti-Zionist, or something or other. I cringe.

250 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:52:01pm

Noah fouls out!

251 SteveC  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:52:04pm

re: #238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's dead Jim. You get his tri-corder. I'll get his wallet.

it's only logical that I get his boots!

252 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:52:07pm

re: #214 Killgore Trout

Semi-ot: I'm still a little baffled about the connection (or non-connection) between the religious right and the Libertarians.

A lot of Libertarians oppose the whole concept of Public Schools.

253 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:52:14pm

re: #196 Slumbering Behemoth

Look, JCM, if I've told you once I've told you... oh, wait, you're FBV. Never mind.

/only ribbing ya, bro

LOL!

I like his avatar!

254 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:52:17pm
255 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:52:20pm

sjmiller has now been banned. I have put his carcass on the grill and tonight's troll roast will be ready in 17 minutes.

256 Randall Gross  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:52:50pm

re: #241 pingjockey

What? Damn!

You can have that badge off his red "extra" away crew shirt...

257 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:01pm
and imagine my surprise when several of them turn out to be Ron Paul acolytes

Unless I missed something, didn't only one of them explicitly self-identify as a Ron Paul supporter.

258 Noam Sayin'  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:02pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

Will there be mint jelly?

259 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:16pm

re: #252 Mich-again

Yeah, I guess there are a few cross over issues but it still really doesn't fit for me.

260 Gus  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:21pm

Watched the rest of the parts on YT. Nothing of any note except for what you could call dissenters. Andrew Napolitano was saying something about repealing the income tax which I guess Beck followed up with "and you don't really have to" as a method of getting the Fed to cut spending. Or something to that effect.

/ Sonambulating.

261 avanti  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:23pm

re: #215 Iron Fist

Allasandra Mussolini is easy on the eyes, too, but that doesn't mean I want to take political advice from her. We hear lots of fluff about being more "inclusive", but what does that really mean? On social issues, what are we supposed to be more moderate than?


Gay marriage is coming, but support for civil unions would be a moderate position. Not excluding a otherwise great, pro choice candidate perhaps. I think having constitution amendment against abortion and gay marriage are deal killers.

262 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:38pm

re: #254 Killgore Trout

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

263 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:41pm

re: #244 BlueCanuck

Heh, ginger beer is usually found in non-alcoholic varieties here. Think root beer as in naming.

/good mix for dark rum.

OK, I'll fetch you some.

264 JacksonTn  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:42pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

sjmiller has now been banned. I have put his carcass on the grill and tonight's troll roast will be ready in 17 minutes.

DF ... are you the boss now? ... just wondering ... strawboss? ... love it ... glad you got rid of him if you are ...

265 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:51pm

re: #246 The Shadow Do

Formula for Chicago win: steal, long bomb. steal, long bomb.

Check that. Steal, long bomb. steal long bomb. steal long bomb.

266 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:55pm

re: #254 Killgore Trout

Fat man is squishing your head

He's got a pack of smokes in his pocket.

NOT NOW, DUDE !

267 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:53:57pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

sjmiller has now been banned. I have put his carcass on the grill and tonight's troll roast will be ready in 17 minutes.

I like lots of garlic.

268 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:54:02pm

re: #256 Thanos
That's cool.

269 SteveC  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:54:18pm

re: #240 pink freud

Worst case, I figured it would be the perfect opening for a boob thread ...if nothing else. ;-)

/NOT that I am interested in a boob thread, mind you.

Boob Thread?!?!

270 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:54:29pm

re: #249 Liberal Classic

"I'm hoping someone like me has a place here. I'm a fiscal conservative and social liberal. I don't consider myself a fringe person. My views on particular issues aren't themselves extreme. If I am pro-choice, then I must necessarily be for gun control? No, of course not.

Now if you say "libertarian" people think Ron Paul, and that means you're a creationist anti-Zionist, or something or other. I cringe."

Sounds like a lot of us here. Welcome.

271 nyc redneck  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:54:31pm

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Singer Ayman Udas ‘shot by her brothers for TV sin’

/three cheers for the religion of peace

how sad. truly heartbreaking.
islam crushes a lot of good and beautiful things.
what a scourge.

272 doppelganglander  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:54:37pm

re: #252 Mich-again

A lot of Libertarians oppose the whole concept of Public Schools.

Oh, that's a great idea. We definitely need more unsocialized, illiterate teenage thugs roaming the streets.

273 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:54:49pm

sjmiller will be the guy to now go tell people at another site that LGF does not allow dissent and he got banned just for disagreeing with Charles.

Seen that about 100 times. They never mention they got banned for being an asshole.

274 Randall Gross  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:55:03pm

re: #214 Killgore Trout

Semi-ot: I'm still a little baffled about the connection (or non-connection) between the religious right and the Libertarians. Alex Jones and Lew Rockwell are always pushing the theory that Christians are being persecuted but I don't know if they really believe it. I strongly suspect they're just working the religious right. Philosophically there really shouldn't be a connection.

It's the Paleo thing, they aren't really libertarians either. They work both religion and WN angles, but they are mostly WN.

275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:55:12pm

Can't believe that went in!

276 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:55:19pm

re: #265 The Shadow Do

Check that. Steal, long bomb. steal long bomb. steal long bomb.

Check again. Steal, long bomb. steal long bomb. Steal long bomb. Steal long bomb.

277 Noam Sayin'  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:55:23pm

Ray Allen. I think he's actually Spiderman.

278 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:55:25pm

re: #214 Killgore Trout

Here's one of Alex railing against Clinton, the DMV, "Mark of the Beast", yadda yadda.

279 doppelganglander  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:55:33pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

sjmiller has now been banned. I have put his carcass on the grill and tonight's troll roast will be ready in 17 minutes.

I guess we'll never know what a "little r conservationist" is.

280 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:55:44pm

re: #261 avanti

Gay marriage is coming, but support for civil unions would be a moderate position. Not excluding a otherwise great, pro choice candidate perhaps. I think having constitution amendment against abortion and gay marriage are deal killers.

I'm pro-life and not a big fan of gay marriage. Constitutional amendment attempts on those issues would be disastrous.

281 DEZes  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:55:44pm

re: #273 Mich-again

sjmiller will be the guy to now go tell people at another site that LGF does not allow dissent and he got banned just for disagreeing with Charles.

Seen that about 100 times. They never mention they got banned for being an asshole.

He would need 2 promotions to reach the level of asshole. ;)

282 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:55:51pm

re: #275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can't believe that went in!

Ray Allen..MVP this series...PERIOD!

283 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:55:59pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

sjmiller has now been banned. I have put his carcass on the grill and tonight's troll roast will be ready in 17 minutes.

Make sure you clean and gut that one extra special. He said something suspicious about sheep ...

284 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:56:05pm

re: #214 Killgore Trout

Semi-ot: I'm still a little baffled about the connection (or non-connection) between the religious right and the Libertarians. Alex Jones and Lew Rockwell are always pushing the theory that Christians are being persecuted but I don't know if they really believe it. I strongly suspect they're just working the religious right. Philosophically there really shouldn't be a connection.

I was really confused by Bob Barr being the LP candidate. Barr had a long history as a social conservative and a strong proponent of the drug prohibition.

285 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:56:13pm

Can President Obama step in and bail out the Bulls?

286 Randall Gross  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:56:22pm

re: #279 doppelganglander

I guess we'll never know what a "little r conservationist" is.

Watch the vid again, pay attention when Gary Hubbell speaks...

287 JacksonTn  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:56:27pm

Good Night Lizards ...

Pink emailed ya ...

Thanks for all the music and laughs ...

288 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:56:41pm

re: #258 Noam Sayin'

Will there be mint jelly?

Yep, my mother is making some right now.

289 doppelganglander  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:56:45pm

re: #284 Liberal Classic

I was really confused by Bob Barr being the LP candidate. Barr had a long history as a social conservative and a strong proponent of the drug prohibition.

Pure opportunism.

290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:56:45pm

re: #282 HoosierHoops

Do you think there's a chance they'll make it through round two? I don't.

291 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:56:56pm

re: #287 JacksonTn

Good Night Lizards ...

Pink emailed ya ...

Thanks for all the music and laughs ...

weet dreams!

292 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:56:58pm

re: #280 jcm
Those two issues should be left up to each state.

293 SteveC  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:57:32pm

re: #273 Mich-again

sjmiller will be the guy to now go tell people at another site that LGF does not allow dissent and he got banned just for disagreeing with Charles.

Seen that about 100 times. They never mention they got banned for being an asshole.

"Cocaine enhances my personality."

"Really? What if you are already an asshole?"

294 DEZes  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:57:51pm

Lurked most of the evening, now I must retire.
Have a good one lizards.

295 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:58:00pm

Cheer up Chicago fans, the Blackhawks were down 2-0 but now they're up 3-2.

296 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:58:18pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

sjmiller has now been banned. I have put his carcass on the grill and tonight's troll roast will be ready in 17 minutes.

*Surveys skinned and cleaned carcass...*

Awful scrawny, let me run and get a selection of beef, pork, venison and bear to throw on there.

297 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:58:26pm

re: #294 DEZes
G'night!

298 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:58:27pm

re: #269 SteveC

Boob Thread?!?!

I always get 404 not found with the big old monster when I click on internal links. Sheesh!

299 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:58:33pm

re: #230 NelsFree

I don't read it that way. She was protesting the BLOCKING of a news source, a limitation of freedom.

Sorry, but that is total crap. She was whining like a little brat about how her neighbor blocked FNC from his/her own damn tv in his/her own damn home.

It has nothing to do with limiting freedom, her neighbor has the right to watch or block whatever channels he/she damn well pleases, and the whiny brat has a problem with that.

300 NelsFree  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:58:52pm

re: #249 Liberal Classic
I am quite impressed with your ability to create political theory. Really.
/not

301 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:59:05pm

Uh make that 4-2.

302 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:59:09pm

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Do you think there's a chance they'll make it through round two? I don't.

25 sec..I can't breathe..hold on

303 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:59:10pm

re: #264 JacksonTn

DF ... are you the boss now? ... just wondering ... strawboss? ... love it ... glad you got rid of him if you are ...

Nope, I just saw that he'd been banned. I don't wield any authority here, save the unofficial task of grilling trolls after Charles or Stinky brain them with the Ban Stick.

304 Liberal Classic  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:59:35pm

re: #270 pink freud

Sounds like a lot of us here. Welcome.

Thanks for the welcome. :)

305 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 7:59:53pm

re: #303 Dark_Falcon
That was a very quiet exit.

306 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:00:13pm

Sleep well, DEZes and Jackson.

307 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:00:23pm

re: #296 jcm

*Surveys skinned and cleaned carcass...*

Awful scrawny, let me run and get a selection of beef, pork, venison and bear to throw on there.

Venison and Bear? Did you go on a hunting trip with Sarah Palin or something?

308 Aye Pod  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:00:39pm

re: #278 Slumbering Behemoth

Here's one of Alex railing against Clinton, the DMV, "Mark of the Beast", yadda yadda.

It's a mystery to me how anyone could be in any way impressed by that asshole.

309 SteveC  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:01:10pm

re: #298 pink freud

I always get 404 not found with the big old monster when I click on internal links. Sheesh!

We're cursed, doomed to walk the planet forever with our chains...

Wait a minute, that was Jacob Marley.

310 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:01:18pm

Okay, I'm still torn on spending the money/time to get front strap checkering on my Kimber. Thoughts?

311 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:02:13pm

re: #305 pingjockey

That was a very quiet exit.

Well, maybe Charles is watching the game. Both the troll's posts have been deleted though, and sjmiller's account has been blocked.

312 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:02:17pm

Terrific series! Next year Chicago!

313 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:02:42pm

re: #307 Dark_Falcon
I damn near reduced the deer population by 5 yesterday. Came around a corner in the work van, about 2pm, 2 does, 3 yearlings, right in the damn road!

314 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:02:59pm
315 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:03:57pm

re: #311 Dark_Falcon
He's busy. We had a couple of asshats early this morning get wacked. Plus it is Saturday night.

316 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:04:06pm

it's over; one of THE great 7 games series EVER is won by the celtics 109-99

317 doppelganglander  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:04:13pm

re: #286 Thanos

Watch the vid again, pay attention when Gary Hubbell speaks...


That is indeed a head-scratcher. I had no idea the Republicans were the party of subdivisions.

318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:04:31pm

re: #285 Mich-again

Can President Obama step in and bail out the Bulls?

Somebody just helped me find a reason to be glad the Bulls lost.

319 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:04:39pm

re: #312 The Shadow Do

Terrific series! Next year Chicago!

Chicago just played a series for the ages...Instant NBA classic..
Boston ..You guys just freaking rock..! Congrads!

320 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:04:53pm

re: #310 Occasional Reader

Okay, I'm still torn on spending the money/time to get front strap checkering on my Kimber. Thoughts?

The original 1911 didn't have it. Therefore it is not what G-d and John Browning intended!

/purist

Seriously though - shoot one with the checkering and one without, and try the difference? I was surprised at the smoothness of the grip on my Colt Series 70 when I picked it up from the FFL. I think there ought to be some texture out front. If I ever have the scratch to get a custom build done, I plan on mine having front strap checkering.

321 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:05:13pm

re: #292 pingjockey

Those two issues should be left up to each state.

Very true. WA abortion was legal long before Roe v. Wade.

The left is a big fan of democracy, unless they have a minority, then it's the courts that must tell us how wrong we are.

322 Noam Sayin'  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:05:24pm

re: #316 gtrs

It was an awesome series.

323 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:05:29pm

re: #319 HoosierHoops
I don't think they can beat Cleveland.

324 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:05:31pm

re: #314 Iron Fist

See? :-)

325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:05:33pm

re: #319 HoosierHoops

Showed some depth without the most dominant big man in the game, my Celtics did.

326 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:05:58pm

re: #307 Dark_Falcon

Venison and Bear? Did you go on a hunting trip with Sarah Palin or something?

Real meat for real people!

327 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:06:15pm

re: #321 jcm
Yep. Well we can't win at the ballot box...Let's find a judge or two.

328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:06:16pm

re: #323 pingjockey

Do they get a month off before they play them?

329 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:07:13pm

re: #320 Pawn of the Oppressor

The original 1911 didn't have it. Therefore it is not what G-d and John Browning intended!

/purist

Seriously though - shoot one with the checkering and one without, and try the difference? I was surprised at the smoothness of the grip on my Colt Series 70 when I picked it up from the FFL. I think there ought to be some texture out front. If I ever have the scratch to get a custom build done, I plan on mine having front strap checkering.

I have not yet shot a front strap checkered one, but I've felt 'em up. I like it... the 30 lpi version, anyway. Some of the other ones feel like a cheese grater.
It's less the money than the idea of having to send in the Kimber for, what, two whole weeks!

330 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:07:39pm

re: #328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was a helluva series and I think both teams left it all on the floor. Which is too bad. Then again, the Celtics may surprise Cleveland.

331 SteveC  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:08:00pm

Holy shit!

Critical care team gets into the wrong cab in Uganda.

Important safety tip: Eyes open in unfamiliar areas!

332 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:08:03pm

re: #328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
i think they will lose to the magic(dwight howard is a BEAST on the inside and garnett is still OUT)

333 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:08:25pm

re: #327 pingjockey

Yep. Well we can't win at the ballot box...Let's find a judge or two.

It's the Chicago way! (and don't forget now ...it's got to be one of those *empathic* judges ...)

/spit (that is so un-lady-like, but it's the only thing that works here)

334 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:08:26pm

re: #323 pingjockey

I don't think they can beat Cleveland.

Nobody can beat Cleveland this year..That includes Kobe...IMO

335 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:08:30pm

re: #330 pingjockey
Too bad in the sense they may not have anything left in the tank for the next series.

336 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:08:35pm

re: #314 Iron Fist

Who can take our place?

Brazil?

(Hey, they have really hot chicks, I figure the rest is all gravy.)

337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:08:48pm

re: #330 pingjockey

Barack 0bama hates Kevin Garnett. He would have healed him by now.

Maybe John Kerry can help.

338 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:09:16pm

re: #330 pingjockey
THEY PLAY THE MAGIC FIRST(don't write them out; just sayin')

339 Bloodnok  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:09:27pm

re: #337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Barack 0bama hates Kevin Garnett. He would have healed him by now.

Maybe John Kerry can halp.

Fixed

340 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:09:29pm

Libertarians are idealists. If they actually gained power they would have no idea how to actually enact their initiatives. Its a big debate club.

341 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:09:30pm

re: #333 pink freud
That is quite allright. It deserves a big frakkin' loogey.

342 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:09:56pm

re: #338 gtrs
I didn't know who they played!

343 lifeofthemind  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:10:00pm

re: #314 Iron Fist

When Rome fell it was another few hundred years before the Byzantines came down. There will be places where some degree of liberty holds sway, perhaps, but it will be liberty defended by hard men and women who will do what is necessary to survive. How far and how fast will things like international trade fall? We are having difficulty with the Barbary Pirates now. What happens if the United States Navy no longer patrol the seas? There isn't anyone else to do it. The Russians can't do it, the Europeans are worse.

America is the fuel that drives the global economy. What happens to China if our economy goes in the shitter? They can't repossess the American southwest in return for the paper promises they have from us. If we get hit bad enough by inflation, all the trillions Obama just borrowed won't be worth anything.

Progress isn't a given. America has been exceptional for more than a hundred years. We've lead in medicine, technology, industry. Who can take our place?

977 years passed from the Fall of the Western Empire to Odoacar until Constantinople fell to the Turks. Be of good cheer. The light has not gone out from the world.

344 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:10:00pm

re: #331 SteveC

Holy shit!

Critical care team gets into the wrong cab in Uganda.

Important safety tip: Eyes open in unfamiliar areas!

I do business in some fairly interesting jurisdictions (e.g. Colombia), and realise that taxi-fu is an art unto itself.

345 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:10:10pm

re: #336 Occasional Reader

Brazil?

(Hey, they have really hot chicks, I figure the rest is all gravy.)

For the rest of my life, OR, when I hear or see anything about hot Brazilian chicks, I am going to think of you. :-)

346 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:10:19pm

re: #323 pingjockey

I don't think they can beat Cleveland.

LeBron's day is now.

347 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:10:25pm

re: #337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
And his Majik Hat!

348 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:10:27pm

re: #310 Occasional Reader

Okay, I'm still torn on spending the money/time to get front strap checkering on my Kimber. Thoughts?

Skip both and just have a gander at this.

/So, um, when we going?

349 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:10:32pm

re: #338 gtrs

THEY PLAY THE MAGIC FIRST(don't write them out; just sayin')

JJ Redick went to High School with my son. I saw him play in HS. He's played well this year.

350 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:11:40pm

re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth
Holy Shit!

351 SteveC  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:11:44pm

re: #345 pink freud

For the rest of my life, OR, when I hear or see anything about hot Brazilian chicks, I am going to think of you. :-)

I'd rather think of the hot Brazilian chicks, but that's just me! :)

352 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:12:04pm

re: #342 pingjockey
i am a magic fan BUT that should be a good series coming up(tonight, eddie house was THE MAN for boston)

353 doppelganglander  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:12:07pm

re: #314 Iron Fist

That's disturbing. I don't think people can truly imagine what it would be like if modern society broke down to the extent that the western Roman Empire did after 476. There are so many self-interested parties that dominate government, I can't imagine it would cease functioning entirely, if only because they refuse to give up power. I could imagine holes in the level of goods and services we're accustomed to. The postal service might disappear, leaving a patchwork of private delivery services. Telecommunications could become spotty and medical care might be hit or miss in some parts of the country. In less stable countries, things might deteriorate to a Somali level.

I'm giving myself nightmares here.

354 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:13:57pm

re: #349 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

JJ Redick went to High School with my son. I saw him play in HS. He's played well this year.

JJ is playing well off the bench as a 2 guard..That is really cool you know him..He seems pretty athletic..handles the ball well..good cross over and spot up jump shooter..
What have you seen Veggie?

355 Aye Pod  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:14:42pm

re: #273 Mich-again

sjmiller will be the guy to now go tell people at another site that LGF does not allow dissent and he got banned just for disagreeing with Charles.

Seen that about 100 times. They never mention they got banned for being an asshole.

You know when drunks get thrown out of a bar and are banned from going back there? They usually tend to forget about it and just move on to some other bar that'll still have them. They don't generally keep hanging around outside that bar, trying on disguises in an attempt to get back in again while screaming about their 'rights' etc. And of course, yelling about how much they never liked that bar anyway. These people could learn a lot from them.

356 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:14:44pm

re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth

Skip both and just have a gander at this.

/So, um, when we going?

Oh, dear.

When are we going... well, if you can convince my wife that it's a really good idea, we've got a plan.

(Warning: She's latina herself (may or may not be from Brazil, I ain't sayin'), so she might cotton on to what's up here.)

357 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:15:35pm

re: #350 pingjockey

Holy Shit!

That wasn't my first reaction, but I guess that works too.

358 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:15:45pm

re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth

That qualifies for a favorite..

359 Shug  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:16:15pm
360 funky chicken  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:16:48pm

re: #137 NJDhockeyfan

I'm still trying to figure out why Obama got so many votes after his associations were exposed.

Yeah, me too. 20 year relationships with Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, Bernie Dohrn, and Louis Farrakhan? That was enough to turn me off right there.

361 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:18:03pm

LOL
I just got an email from a buddy of mine..He bet 6 bucks on the Derby today and won 183 dollars..He said he won 50 -1 ..
Who won today? I've been watching Ball

362 Irenicum  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:18:11pm

re: #40 Truck Monkey

ah, comfortably numb...

363 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:18:27pm

re: #357 Slumbering Behemoth
Holy Sweater Puppies? Breasticles? Nice Eyes?

364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:18:28pm

re: #354 HoosierHoops

He never expected to play more than a few minutes a game. Son knew him, I didn't. Other night he went like five for five from three (got some extra playing time) because of an injury.

Looking to be traded though. Won't get enough playing time at the Magic. I always thought he'd be a good Pacer.

But, that's just me. I'm a moron.

365 rain of lead  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:18:57pm

re: #349 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

hey FBV ya know, when you and JCM have a long string of comments
posted together it looks like a bloody day at red rock.

/just sayin

366 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:18:57pm

re: #356 Occasional Reader

Tell her we are going on a fact-finding mission. If she buys that, see if she'll give me a grant for, um, "research".

367 doppelganglander  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:19:03pm

re: #343 lifeofthemind

977 years passed from the Fall of the Western Empire to Odoacar until Constantinople fell to the Turks. Be of good cheer. The light has not gone out from the world.

We're actually coming up on the 556th anniversary of the fall of Constantinople on May 29th. It was the culmination of centuries of appeasing Islamic aggression, which the Romans (as they continued to call themselves) were unable to confront due to internal moral decay. They spent a lot of time bickering about theological points and having schisms and councils of bishops. Just sayin'.

368 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:19:09pm

re: #361 HoosierHoops
A horse that cost 9500 bucks, "Mine that Bird".

369 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:19:19pm

re: #361 HoosierHoops

Mine That Bird

370 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:19:40pm

re: #359 Shug

from the article..

His style didn't win over everyone. In his memoirs, former Vice President Dan Quayle wrote that at Cabinet meetings, Bush would be irked by Kemp's habit of going off on tangents and not making "any discernible point."

Who knew Dan Quayle had memoirs?

371 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:19:46pm

re: #360 funky chicken
with GWB polling in the low 20's at the time; i think mccain pretty much maxed out his vote potential especially considering the fundraising advantage that obama had(JUST MY TWO CENTS)

372 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:20:30pm

Let's keep things in perspective. Sure, the economy is struggling, Obama is turning us into a socialist state, iran is closer to getting the bomb, and michelle obama has $540 sneakers. But there is good news ...

The CELTICS win game 7 over the Chicago Bulls ... WOO HOO!

Bring on Orlando

373 doppelganglander  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:20:34pm

re: #369 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mine That Bird

That is very much a "someone set us up the bomb" sort of name.

374 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:20:39pm

re: #363 pingjockey

Nope. More like :drool:

375 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:20:53pm

re: #366 Slumbering Behemoth
Yep. Tell her you have a trained QA tech going and we are going to help Brazil implement 2 sigma for their swimsuit manufacturing.

376 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:22:16pm

re: #364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
jj was the player of the game for the magic that game because courtney lee(the magic starter at the 2 guard) was out with sinus surgery(actually hit by his own man, dwight howard); without jj hitting the 3's early, the magic lose because howard was suspended for the game

377 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:22:22pm

re: #374 Slumbering Behemoth
That works too! Never got to go to Brazil. The girls in Australia and Thailand are nice.

378 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:23:57pm

BBIAB, looks like all the paulians have left.

379 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:24:48pm

The Kentucky Derby winner Mine That Bird is a gelding. Wonder if they saved any, umm, samples.

380 Idle Drifter  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:25:01pm

re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth

Skip both and just have a gander at this.

/So, um, when we going?

Um, how long was I out? I had the most wonderful dream.

381 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:26:43pm

with the blackhawks now 5-2 over the canucks in the third period the FIGHT HAS NOW COMMENCED(this last five minutes is going to be GREAT ACTION)

382 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:27:34pm

Uh oh, Harry Potter is on. Better switch channels before I get demon possessed or my soul gets swallowed by Satin or something.
/

383 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:27:43pm

re: #376 gtrs

I love it ... hoop fans on the board. Celts/Magic will be a good one. I like the Celtics because Orlando depends too much on their perimeter scoring and Dwigfht Howard is a poor free throw shooter. Boston in 6.

384 pingjockey  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:28:17pm

G'night folks, see ya in da mornin'.

385 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:29:32pm

re: #366 Slumbering Behemoth

Tell her we are going on a fact-finding mission. If she buys that, see if she'll give me a grant for, um, "research".

You single, SB? If so, you can do all the research you want.

(I highly recommend, um, exploring, Brazil.)

386 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:30:35pm

re: #382 Slumbering Behemoth

PIMF! I meant "Say-tin"

387 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:33:22pm

re: #385 Occasional Reader

Yup, I be single. And I hear tell the gals down there like guys like me (blue eyes).

Alas, I do not have travel money. :sigh: Some day.

388 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:33:35pm
389 Aye Pod  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:33:41pm

A goodie from the 80's - Killing Eyebrow Joke : A love like Blood

390 jcm  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:37:18pm

re: #368 pingjockey

A horse that cost 9500 bucks, "Mine that Bird".

The trainer drove the horse all the way from NM himself.

Gotta love a long shot.

391 funky chicken  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:37:46pm

re: #382 Slumbering Behemoth

Uh oh, Harry Potter is on. Better switch channels before I get demon possessed or my soul gets swallowed by Satin or something.
/

satin? LOL at least it will feel nice

392 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:38:13pm

re: #388 Iron Fist

Are you having any control problems with the front strap as it is?

Nah. I just want to... you know, accessorize. (Let's face it, pistols are like purses for gun nuts.)

If you are going to do it, have you seen some of the patterns that are available?

Haven't seen those, but I like the feel of the standard 30 LPI checkering that Kimber does on some of its other pistols (and inexplicably, doesn't do on it the Kimber Warrior)>

Have you got tritium sights?

Those come standard on the Warrior. It was definitely something I thought was a good idea.

393 gtrs  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:40:36pm

re: #383 _RememberTonyCi just feel that unless garnett has some type of willis reed moment and actually plays(which i highly doubt)that the celtics have nothing to combat dwight howard on the interior AND hedo and rashard finally started hitting their outside shots in the last 2 games against the sixers; i am therfore going with the magic in 7(but, i believe the cavs are going to win the east; then lose to the lakers in the final)

394 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:40:43pm
395 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:41:42pm

re: #387 Slumbering Behemoth

Yup, I be single. And I hear tell the gals down there like guys like me (blue eyes).

Alas, I do not have travel money. :sigh: Some day.

In the immortal words of Steve Martin (in his "you can make a million dollars, and never pay taxes" routine): Step one... get a millions dollars.

(Or at least enough dollars for a week in Rio... you won't be disappointed.)

396 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:43:38pm

Gah, I need to go to the range tomorrow. It's gonna be a rainy day, and my wife has dance classes... good excuse.

397 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:44:58pm

Mine That Bird is used to the lower oxygen level at a mile-high altitude at the ranch in New Mexico. I wonder if that has something to do with his performance.

398 Mich-again  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:45:29pm

re: #396 Occasional Reader

Is she a teacher?

399 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:47:31pm

re: #398 Mich-again

Is she a teacher?

No, student. But an avid one. A scarily good dancer, in just about any style you want... I feel utterly intimidated on the dance floor, but in a good way.

400 Lightspeed  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:49:55pm

re: #257 Occasional Reader

Unless I missed something, didn't only one of them explicitly self-identify as a Ron Paul supporter.

I only saw one. The reported guy might have been a Ron Paul supporter, but all he really said was that he wasn't a D or an R. Who knows, the room could've been swarming with 'em.

However, this clip in no way tars the Tea Parties with the brush of Ron Paul. If anything it would be a reflection on Beck. It's his audience, after all. Why should we believe it is a representative sample of Tea Partygoers?

401 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:53:47pm

re: #400 Lightspeed

I only saw one. The reported guy might have been a Ron Paul supporter, but all he really said was that he wasn't a D or an R. Who knows, the room could've been swarming with 'em.

However, this clip in no way tars the Tea Parties with the brush of Ron Paul. If anything it would be a reflection on Beck. It's his audience, after all. Why should we believe it is a representative sample of Tea Partygoers?

I agree. The audience was hand picked by his show so of course it is not a reflection of the tea parties in general. Those were full of people who showed up on their own.

402 Soona'  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:54:35pm

re: #395 Occasional Reader

In the immortal words of Steve Martin (in his "you can make a million dollars, and never pay taxes" routine): Step one... get a millions dollars.

(Or at least enough dollars for a week in Rio... you won't be disappointed.)

With the economy the way it is, you might be able to find some good deals.

403 nyc redneck  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:58:07pm

i never knew alex jones was that crazy.

404 rain of lead  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:58:10pm

man, it's been raining here for two whole days nearly nonstop.
I swear I saw a line of animals marching down the street lined up in twos

405 Kathianne  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:58:30pm

It seems to me that both the anarchist wing of the Right and the Libertarian wing also are trying to co-op the tea parties. My wish is that their are far more sensible people truly angry than followers of Newt or Ron Paul/Glenn Beck.

406 funky chicken  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:58:53pm

re: #383 _RememberTonyC

Hey RTC, did you see my reply to you on an earlier thread about the Taurus SHO?

[Link: www.autoblog.com...]

could be a really good vehicle for your wife for the transition away from minivan driving

407 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 8:59:59pm

re: #403 nyc redneck

i never knew alex jones was that crazy.

He's Bark-at-the-Moon crazy. 100% nuts.

408 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:00:43pm
409 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:03:23pm

re: #403 nyc redneck

i never knew alex jones was that crazy.

Oh, he can get even worse than that. You can see why some express concern when certain Fox News hosts associate with him, and even go so far as to call him "the great Alex Jones".

It's not a smart thing for Fox to allow this, as it is nearly impossible to get the Jones stink off you once it sticks.

410 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:05:03pm

re: #408 Iron Fist

I have zero interest in engraving, agreed. It's more about the feel of the weapon... I like almost everything about the feel of my Kimber, except the front strap.

Your guys look interesting, but that turnaround time, ayayay.

411 Soona'  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:10:08pm

Hello. Is anyone here? Did everyone go to bed? Is everyone getting laid but me?

412 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:11:13pm

re: #411 Soona'

Is everyone getting laid but me?

Yes.
/and don't ask me how I typed that...

413 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:11:19pm

re: #411 Soona'

Hello. Is anyone here? Did everyone go to bed? Is everyone getting laid but me?

LOL!

414 Soona'  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:12:16pm

re: #412 Slumbering Behemoth

Yes.
/and don't ask me how I typed that...

LOL!

415 Lightspeed  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:12:36pm

re: #411 Soona'

Hello. Is anyone here? Did everyone go to bed? Is everyone getting laid but me?

Yes ;-)

416 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:13:36pm
417 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:14:18pm

re: #393 gtrs

i just feel that unless garnett has some type of willis reed moment and actually plays(which i highly doubt)that the celtics have nothing to combat dwight howard on the interior AND hedo and rashard finally started hitting their outside shots in the last 2 games against the sixers; i am therfore going with the magic in 7(but, i believe the cavs are going to win the east; then lose to the lakers in the final)


good points! If KG has his Willis Reed moment, it won't happen until the Cavs/Celtics series (if Boston makes it). Orlando is not mentally tough, Stan van Gundy tends to be a bit shaky on the bench, Dwight Howard is too nice, and Boston does have home court. That said, Boston is tired and its front line is depleted. But I think this will finally be the series where Stephon Marbury becomes a legit contributor.

418 Soona'  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:14:19pm

re: #415 Lightspeed

Yes ;-)

Then it looks like I'll have to revert to my backup plan.

419 Lightspeed  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:15:06pm

re: #412 Slumbering Behemoth

Yes.
/and don't ask me how I typed that...

Well, certain activities only require one hand...

420 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:15:30pm

re: #406 funky chicken


I did ... thanks! I've never liked Fords, but I like them better now that they did not accept money from Obama. We will look into it when we have some cash. Thanks again

421 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:15:52pm

re: #411 Soona'

Hello. Is anyone here?

Just nod if you can hear me...

422 Lightspeed  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:16:50pm

re: #419 Lightspeed

Well, certain activities only require one hand...

Of course, if you are doing that and surfing here...um, I'm gonna be sick!

423 Lightspeed  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:17:41pm

re: #418 Soona'

Then it looks like I'll have to revert to my backup plan.

What is your backup plan?

424 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:17:58pm
425 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:18:46pm
426 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:18:59pm
427 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:20:09pm

re: #419 Lightspeed

Well, certain activities only require one hand...

Making "the beast with five knuckles"?

428 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:20:44pm

re: #424 Iron Fist

Here's what you need. It'll keep the wolves at bay, and scare the intestines out of would-be home invaders. Of course, at point-blank range in a closed room you might as well call it a concussive weapon. The muzzle blast alone would kill them.

Probably wouldn't be that good for you, either. We had one of these for sale locally here last year. They wanted $24,000 for the whole setup. It sold before I even found out it was on the market (like I could have afforded to do anything about it :-)

Oh, did you see the 9th Circuit decision week before last incorporating the Second Amendment into the 14th? Good news. We need some of that about now.

Yeah, i did see that here. It looks like the three judge panel didn't like the conclusion they reached, but it was the only left to them under the precedents set by the Supreme Court.

429 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:20:55pm
430 Lightspeed  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:21:19pm

re: #424 Iron Fist

Here's what you need.

Nah. Try one of these.

431 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:23:23pm

re: #424 Iron Fist

Oh, did you see the 9th Circuit decision week before last incorporating the Second Amendment into the 14th?

No, I didn't. Will look for it. Thanks for the info.

432 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:23:48pm
433 Soona'  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:25:10pm

re: #421 Occasional Reader

Just nod if you can hear me...

Wow. I guess it's been a long time since I've seen a video of them. They look like old accountants playing very good music.

434 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:25:50pm

re: #430 Lightspeed

Nah. Try one of these.

You're both total pussies. This is what you need for home defense.

435 Soona'  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:26:27pm

re: #423 Lightspeed

What is your backup plan?

It's...wait a minute...never mind.

436 pink freud  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:26:43pm

re: #431 Occasional Reader

Good detail here. Thanks, Iron Fist. I hadn't heard this either.

"This is a big decision. For the first time ever, a federal court has found that the 2nd amendment is indeed incorporated into the Constitution through the 14th amendment. Just as a little background for those of you who are not legal scholars, originally the Bill of Rights were a set of limited rights that only applied to the federal government (for example many states had official state religions). It wasn’t until after the Civil War and the passage of the 14th Amendment that some of the Bill of Rights were eventually “incorporated” into the 14th amendment and applied to states as well as the federal government. Through a hodgepodge of cases, the Supreme Court has recognized most of the rights in the Bill of Rights as “fundamental” rights, and thus states could not limit them. Curiously the 2nd amendment has never been included as one of these fundamental rights, and thus never incorporated (although non-existent rights like the Right to Privacy made the list somehow).

The opinion basically follows the Heller opinion from last year. The Heller opinion invalidated a Washington D.C. ordinance which banned all gun possession in the District. The SCOTUS ruled that this was unconstitutional because gun ownership “necessary to an Anglo-American regime of ordered liberty.” Following this framework, the 9th Circuit has basically said that since this is a fundamental right the 2nd Amendment must be incorporated into the 14th Amendment. Interestingly, the 9th Circuit did not use the Priviliges and Immunities Clause of the 14th Amendment, but by the Due Process Clause. "

437 Lightspeed  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:27:19pm

re: #427 Slumbering Behemoth

I prefer "a date with Rosy Palm."

438 Lightspeed  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:28:17pm

It's late and my mind is in the gutter. 'Nite all!

439 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:28:18pm
440 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:31:11pm

Good night.

441 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:31:23pm
442 Soona'  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:32:04pm

re: #436 pink freud

Good detail here. Thanks, Iron Fist. I hadn't heard this either.

"This is a big decision. For the first time ever, a federal court has found that the 2nd amendment is indeed incorporated into the Constitution through the 14th amendment. Just as a little background for those of you who are not legal scholars, originally the Bill of Rights were a set of limited rights that only applied to the federal government (for example many states had official state religions). It wasn’t until after the Civil War and the passage of the 14th Amendment that some of the Bill of Rights were eventually “incorporated” into the 14th amendment and applied to states as well as the federal government. Through a hodgepodge of cases, the Supreme Court has recognized most of the rights in the Bill of Rights as “fundamental” rights, and thus states could not limit them. Curiously the 2nd amendment has never been included as one of these fundamental rights, and thus never incorporated (although non-existent rights like the Right to Privacy made the list somehow).

The opinion basically follows the Heller opinion from last year. The Heller opinion invalidated a Washington D.C. ordinance which banned all gun possession in the District. The SCOTUS ruled that this was unconstitutional because gun ownership “necessary to an Anglo-American regime of ordered liberty.” Following this framework, the 9th Circuit has basically said that since this is a fundamental right the 2nd Amendment must be incorporated into the 14th Amendment. Interestingly, the 9th Circuit did not use the Priviliges and Immunities Clause of the 14th Amendment, but by the Due Process Clause. "

You're right, I'm not a legal scholar. What is the Due Process Clause?

443 pjaicomo  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:35:49pm

"My crazy neighbor blocks FOX!"

- Goes home to TV-less home, and puts on tinfoil hat.

FOX sucks, but who complains about someone blocking FOX when they block all of TV?

444 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:38:02pm
445 Soona'  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:42:31pm

re: #444 Iron Fist

14th Amendment

It isn't as great a win as I would like it to be, but I'll take what I can get. If the 9th Circut is going to take this approach then I doubt any of the less Liberal circuts will squawk much about it. Every decision along these lines helps to secure our freedom.

So hopefully the price of ammo will go down.

446 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:46:09pm

re: #443 pjaicomo

Indeed. She wants to mooch tv shows off her buddy's nickle, but complains about the "menu", all while refusing to avail her self of the privilege of owning her own damn tv. Hypocritical.

Beggar or chooser. Pick one, 'cuz you can't be both.

447 meh130  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:47:44pm

re: #24 Shug


sure about that?

That article was pretty lame. I commented on another thread as to its weakness. Nate Silver does not know enough about statistics to understand the difference between correlation and causality. Had Silver run the numbers including other political contributions, he may have found similar correlation. I actually think Obama won the Democrat primary or caucus in most of the top tea party states. Think about that one.

That said, if you think Ron Paul can organize dozens of protests gathering 300,000 plus people, then Ron Paul is much more powerful than the flake most consider him.

I can say there were few Paulians at the Tea Party I attended. I would estimate they were 1/10th of 1% of the total crowd.

Finally, the whole thesis of this thread is weak. One guy said he vote for Ron Paul. Two others had their names given, Michael Jablonski and Gary Hubbell. Searches at Google and OpenSecrets reveal no Paulian connection for Messers Jablonski or Hubbell. If there is evidence, I wish Charles would include it. Otherwise, this is a reach.

The idea that Tea Party attendees = Paulians doesn't add up.

448 [deleted]  Sat, May 2, 2009 9:57:58pm
449 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 2, 2009 10:20:38pm

re: #448 jhow66

Fuck 'em. Why would any sane and reasonable person care what the fans of a populist doom-monger think of them?

450 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 2, 2009 10:22:33pm

re: #449 Slumbering Behemoth

Fuck 'em. Why would any sane and reasonable person care what the fans of a populist doom-monger think of them?

i used to enjoy Beck, but once he started doing all of his apocalyptic bullshit, he no longer had credibility in my eyes.

451 Wendya  Sat, May 2, 2009 10:42:28pm

re: #21 pingjockey

Nope, unfortunetly, that message will be lost due to the nut jobs that the media will focus on. On purpose to be sure.

Not just the media.

452 dmjboose  Sat, May 2, 2009 10:54:02pm

I understand that Charles doesn't trust the tea party movement. I understand his reasons for doing so. I also have heard an extremely common talking point that we shouldn't "focus on the few whakos in the group." My guess is that this is a talking point formulated by someone behind the scenes, and it's been said by enough politicians that it's sticking. That being said, I have heard some encouraging things about the tea party movement.

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
[Link: www.businesswire.com...]

The fact is that we do agree with these guys when it comes to economics. We do want less government spending, more fiscal responsibility, and less government intervention in the economy. What we don't want is all of the other stuff the Paulians want. Similarly, we agree with the religious right on a lot of issues, but certainly not all, especially not on the teaching of evolution. So, we need to learn how to come to agreements with groups on certain issues without compromising what matters. This is actually really hard, but it's equally important. The crucial element is letting them know the scope of your partnership ahead of time. The republican party CAN be the big tent party, but it needs clear goals that everyone in the tent can agree on, without co-opting crazy goals like resuming the gold standard and teaching creationism as a viable scientific theory.

453 freedomplow  Sat, May 2, 2009 11:10:07pm

Don't like Beck or Paul.

My guess is that 90% of the people that showed up at the tea parties don't like Paul either and will never vote for him under any circumstances.

Another guess 48% don't like Beck.

One more guess is that 95% of the people that attended the tea parties don't like all the new borrowing and spending and that is why they went.

Hundreds of thousands attended the tea parties that don't like Paul or Beck.

Let's hope they don't get thrown under the free cash bus.

454 Wendya  Sat, May 2, 2009 11:17:21pm

re: #452 dmjboose


The fact is that we do agree with these guys when it comes to economics. We do want less government spending, more fiscal responsibility, and less government intervention in the economy. What we don't want is all of the other stuff the Paulians want.

Well, my brother and I both attended tax protests last month and the focus was on... excessive government spending. We still have a right to protest and a right to peaceably assemble and I for one, refuse to impose an ideological litmus test on the personal beliefs of people gathered to protest taxation and spending. We did have one counter protester and no one drove him off or required him to hold the "correct" beliefs. Our local protest was initiated by a registered independent business owner in our town and was attended by republicans, democrats and independents. If there were any paulinians there, they didn't advertise the fact. This wasn't a "Fox News" or Beck, or Paul organized outing. This was about 100 pissed off citizens and voters.

I live in a state and district where my political beliefs are not represented. If you read the papers, and watch the news, you'd think we were all just a bunch of happy Obama supporters perfectly content with the new administration. This was our chance to show our elected reps we're not all onboard the stupid train. My state rep showed up and hung out on the sidelines watching. He's a major Obama supporter and he was not pleased with what he saw. In a district my size, he can't afford to lose democrats and independents.

455 bubbasbbq  Sun, May 3, 2009 3:30:28am

The truly sad part is that 99.99% of all the people who went to a tea party are NOT Ron "puke" Paul supporters and I would say the majority of that figure doesn't even like the moron and yet this dipwad needs to parade them around like they are model citizens instead of the whackjobs that they are.

I can tell you right now, Ron Paul, nor any of his mind numbed supporters had anything to do with starting these tea parties, their claims to take the credit to the contrary. If anyone deserves the credit. it would be Rick Santelli because he is the one to mentioned it first. I am on several sites that almost simultaneously started to talk about organizing these protests. Personally I don't think anyone supporting Ron Puke has the brains to organize such a thing.

I used to like Glen Beck. What the hell happened? He is not helping the cause by parading these loons on TV.

456 bubbasbbq  Sun, May 3, 2009 3:33:01am

OH and another thing...I don't particularly care for the idea that Beck is trying to co-opt these tea parties, either. Get your hands of my protest, you little freak!

457 bubbasbbq  Sun, May 3, 2009 3:35:25am

re: #445 Soona'

Don't count on that anytime soon, Soona. Demand is still at an all time high.

458 Fierce Guppy  Sun, May 3, 2009 3:46:30am

There was a self-proclaimed Paulian among a refreshingly pro individual liberty audience. This ~will~ be difficult, but I will try hard to summon up the requisite emotional.

Wait for it...

Wait for it...

Wait for it...

eek.

Phew! Will that suffice, or should I have put more meat on it?

But, seriously. Who thinks the vast majority of the people attending these "Tea Parties" would give a toss about what Ron Paul says beyond economics, liberty, and predatory government? The crowds of Tea Party goers are not and never were gravitating towards Ron Paul. Their paths run parallel on those issues, and only on those issues. Beyond that, Paulians will find out just how much they've overestimated their value, again.

Tony.

459 freetoken  Sun, May 3, 2009 4:54:33am

re: #455 bubbasbbq

So... bubbasbbq, what are we to make of Alan Keyes as a keynote speaker at the Ft. Wayne tea party:

Are the thousands (probably 2000) of people there cheering Keyes on about 'nirthing? Yes or no.

Keyes was also a speaker at a Pittsburgh Tea Party.


Keyes is every bit as bad as Paul, maybe even worse in some cases.

The net is loaded with videos from the "tea parties", many of which show speakers who, frankly, are marginally sane. Many are just self deceived.

Charles has already posted about several links between some tea party organizers and the Paul supporters.

Either you are not being straight up with us... or you really need to investigate what you are supporting.

460 AuldTrafford  Sun, May 3, 2009 5:28:32am

OK; just watched all 7:19 of that and heard one mention of Ron Paul (and you had to be listening very closely - it went by pretty much in an undertoned passing phrase) - and Beck does not mention him, or his movement, at all. And the mention was as a preface to the basic comment that he (the commenter) was a lot less concerned with personalities - and wanted more discussion of policy.

Racism was mentioned - only in the context of "If you talk about enforcing the borders, you're labeled a racist."

Will admit: the guy who mentioned Ron Paul also talked a bit about the importance of the Constitution - which, concededly, Ron Paul also likes to do. However, I'm not sure that's one thing that I would regard as a negative about Ron Paul.

I assume Charles is a lot more in tune with who supports Ron Paul than I am (maybe he recognizes faces?), but I didn't see it in the 7:19 that was posted here.

461 J.S.  Sun, May 3, 2009 7:38:13am

re: #447 meh130

That had to have been one of the silliest "studies" I've ever seen...imo, completely bogus. (And, just what in the hell was he attempting to "correlate"? That the amount of a state-wide campaign contribution to Ron Paul correlates with the degree of support for tea parties? If that was the intent, he sure as hell didn't prove it...zero evidence to support that claim...which, btw, is very different from making claims about the composition of a Tea Party group (ie, arguing that most, or a majority of people who attended a Tea Party also support Ron Paul -- if that's what you wanted to do using statistics, you'd have to do a survey of those who attended the Tea Parties...and it wouldn't be a "correlation" study either...lol)

462 GhostShip  Sun, May 3, 2009 10:41:16am

It's sort of funny to see so many people on this blog label the views of people who espouse limited government, fiscal responsibility, and states rights as a bunch of crazy talk while complaining that those same people are hijacking your tea parties. If you think those things are crazy then maybe the tea parties weren't your protests.

463 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 3, 2009 10:59:13am
464 Nekama  Sun, May 3, 2009 2:23:15pm

There are nuts in every crowd.

That some were present at the Tea Party demonstrations doesn't diminish the need for less government, less taxes, and greater individual responsibility.


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