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I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
— Bill Cosby
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:14:48pm |
"Success is the result of experience.
Experience is the result of good judgement.
Good judgement is often the result of bad judgement."
-Tony Robbins
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:17:07pm |
"S-U-C-C-E-E-S, that's the way you spell 'success'."
-Bart Simpson
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:18:33pm |
experience is essential:
it allows to recognize a mistake when you make it again.
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capitalist piglet Sun, May 3, 2009 11:21:23pm |
A man is a succes if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do.
- Bob Dylan
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:21:24pm |
Rat update, if you would care to....
I enjoy them!
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:21:44pm |
re: #8 redc1c4
they're brothers?
/pun intended
Well . . . not quite.
Although we did both get the lion's share of brains in each of our respective families.
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capitalist piglet Sun, May 3, 2009 11:22:32pm |
re: #10 capitalist piglet
Also, if he learns to spell in his spare time. (I pasted that.)
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:22:43pm |
re: #1 gmsc
Tony Robbins? Isn't he a "feel good, pay me for the seminar" kinda guy?
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:22:48pm |
because she needs more readers..... IMHO.
even if they're just LNDT types.
she's had my 6 element in stitches, and she doesn't even read blogs usually.
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Gus Sun, May 3, 2009 11:23:01pm |
The key to failure is spending ones time criticizing others while all the while never creating anything of much worth -- one just becomes a soulless void.
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:23:22pm |
re: #12 gmsc
Well . . . not quite.
Although we did both get the lion's share of brains in each of our respective families.
so you are both zombies?
/RUN!
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:23:31pm |
re: #15 Floral Giraffe
Tony Robbins? Isn't he a "feel good, pay me for the seminar" kinda guy?
Yep - but the quote is still good.
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:24:31pm |
re: #13 Pvt Bin Jammin
LOL Me too.
all quiet so far tonight, but now i'm incentiveized to go look.....
BRB.
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:24:33pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:24:36pm |
re: #16 redc1c4
You do have um, interesting, yeah, that's the word! Friends...
Carmen Miranda, look out!
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Fenway_Nation Sun, May 3, 2009 11:24:48pm |
The Muslima's gone and has been replaced by Newt...
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MrPaulRevere Sun, May 3, 2009 11:25:11pm |
I'm dating myself here, but I remember Bill Cosby from when he did 'I Spy' with Robert Culp. It was an intelligent show with high production values. Cosby was a real trailblazer.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:25:19pm |
re: #21 gmsc
I'm asceered to look at that......
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Gus Sun, May 3, 2009 11:26:02pm |
Hey Sharmuta. I think I just bonded with you during the last hour.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 3, 2009 11:26:26pm |
re: #21 gmsc
How did I know it was going to be Ben. LOL
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MrPaulRevere Sun, May 3, 2009 11:26:52pm |
re: #17 Gus 802
Heads are exploding at '2' after they read that.
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freetoken Sun, May 3, 2009 11:27:24pm |
re: #25 MrPaulRevere
I'm dating myself here, but I remember Bill Cosby from when he did 'I Spy' with Robert Culp. It was an intelligent show with high production values. Cosby was a real trailblazer.
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BatGuano Sun, May 3, 2009 11:27:36pm |
"It is not enough that I succeed; some of my friends must fail" -Jack Parr
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Gus Sun, May 3, 2009 11:28:17pm |
re: #30 MrPaulRevere
Heads are exploding at '2' after they read that.
Yeah they are. That's fine by me -- that bug eyed boozer needs a hobby. ;)
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Ben G. Hazi Sun, May 3, 2009 11:28:22pm |
re: #30 MrPaulRevere
Heads are exploding at '2' after they read that.
They have to have something in their heads first for them to explode with any consequence...
/
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:28:29pm |
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Fenway_Nation Sun, May 3, 2009 11:28:55pm |
re: #15 Floral Giraffe
I'm getting a sidebar ad in another window for some financial wellness seminar hosted by Montel Williams.
I can't take the dude seriously after he was hawking 'Special 0bama commemrative coins' that were a Kennedy half-dollar with an 0bama sticker stuck on each side.
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Gus Sun, May 3, 2009 11:29:23pm |
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:29:31pm |
re: #26 Floral Giraffe
I'm asceered to look at that......
It's not scary in the way you might be thinking.
;)
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 3, 2009 11:30:17pm |
re: #21 gmsc
Doesn't it just make you sick how Michael Jackson has ruined his looks. He was a very attractive young kid. Sad.
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BatGuano Sun, May 3, 2009 11:30:33pm |
re: #10 capitalist piglet
A man is a succes if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do.
- Bob Dylan
I'll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours- Bob Dylan
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:31:04pm |
I share a wall with the house next door, well, three, but only one is a "critter highway". This week, I have seen squirrel, cat, rat and racoon. The nice lady next door, has fruit trees. The critters come to feed. Now, this in URBAN LA, I expect some critters, but this is a highway!
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:32:00pm |
re: #18 redc1c4
so you are both zombies?
/RUN!
Hey, there are worse things to be called on LGF than "zombie"!
;)
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Gus Sun, May 3, 2009 11:33:17pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:33:34pm |
re: #41 Pvt Bin Jammin
No. A twisted life isn't going to untwist.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, May 3, 2009 11:34:09pm |
That's it folks, the Seventh Seal has been broken. We are now in hell.
/Seriously, wtf?
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:34:52pm |
re: #41 Pvt Bin Jammin
Doesn't it just make you sick how Michael Jackson has ruined his looks. He was a very attractive young kid. Sad.
It's sad and scary.
A Photographic History of Michael Jackson's Face
With blithering, yet witty commentary
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Gus Sun, May 3, 2009 11:35:03pm |
re: #51 Sharmuta
OK- I see I missed some fun. Gus has hit the big time.
Yep.
BTW, here's Pam Gellar's house.
Might as well go all out.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Sun, May 3, 2009 11:35:10pm |
re: #25 MrPaulRevere
I'm dating myself here, but I remember Bill Cosby from when he did 'I Spy' with Robert Culp. It was an intelligent show with high production values. Cosby was a real trailblazer.
How about The Bill Cosby Show? (I guess I'm dating myself, too.)
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:35:16pm |
re: #50 Slumbering Behemoth
That kinda "stuff" is funnier when the sound is off, IMHO.....
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itellu3times Sun, May 3, 2009 11:35:39pm |
re: #44 Floral Giraffe
I share a wall with the house next door, well, three, but only one is a "critter highway". This week, I have seen squirrel, cat, rat and racoon. The nice lady next door, has fruit trees. The critters come to feed. Now, this in URBAN LA, I expect some critters, but this is a highway!
I hear stories of urban racoons, but have never ever seen one. Possum, yes, deer, roadrunner, tarantula, skunk, pheasant, rabbits, lizards, woodpeckers, snakes, squirrels, rats, coyotes, hummingbirds, hawks, falcons, ... but no racoons. No bobcats, either.
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:35:44pm |
re: #44 Floral Giraffe
I share a wall with the house next door, well, three, but only one is a "critter highway". This week, I have seen squirrel, cat, rat and racoon. The nice lady next door, has fruit trees. The critters come to feed. Now, this in URBAN LA, I expect some critters, but this is a highway!
i just saw two rats and a possum.... and heard an owl.
i missed one of the rats, and the possum left on it's own accord.
/next time
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 3, 2009 11:36:14pm |
re: #49 Floral Giraffe
He was probably already twisted back then. Their childhood was screwed up too.
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:36:43pm |
re: #50 Slumbering Behemoth
That's it folks, the Seventh Seal has been broken. We are now in hell.
/Seriously, wtf?
Did anyone else notice that the closest they got to a man in that commercial was the arm around that one woman?
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freetoken Sun, May 3, 2009 11:38:22pm |
re: #50 Slumbering Behemoth
Crude by Japanese standards. Took me a while to try the Japanese inventions... never did cotton to them...
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reine.de.tout Sun, May 3, 2009 11:38:53pm |
re: #52 gmsc
It's sad and scary.
A Photographic History of Michael Jackson's Face
With blithering, yet witty commentary
Well.
The USA is the only country in the world where a poor black boy can grow up to be a rich white woman.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 3, 2009 11:39:03pm |
re: #52 gmsc
OMG that's funny. He really does look like Sigourney Weaver in that one shot.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:39:43pm |
re: #57 redc1c4
When I lived in the Hollywierd Hills, I got used to critters. This is URBAN.There's no greenspace for 30 miles. I've seen everything 'ceot coyotes here, and if I've got racoons, there's coyotes. Just haven't seen them! I must admit, I HATE getting flea bites in the yard. What critter did the flea come from? I do miss the great horned owls. Haven't heard one here...yet....
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:39:50pm |
re: #54 Abu Al-Poopypants
How about The Bill Cosby Show? (I guess I'm dating myself, too.)
What about Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids?
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matthew_db Sun, May 3, 2009 11:40:55pm |
Hey, the window was left open!
I've been looking to register for quite a while but tend to be quite busy weekends so I always miss the open window.
Hopefully not too many trolls slink in.
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:41:03pm |
re: #56 itellu3times
I hear stories of urban racoons, but have never ever seen one. Possum, yes, deer, roadrunner, tarantula, skunk, pheasant, rabbits, lizards, woodpeckers, snakes, squirrels, rats, coyotes, hummingbirds, hawks, falcons, ... but no racoons. No bobcats, either.
we get entire families at our house. our first night here, while we were still moving in, dog tired, we were headed to bed when i thought i saw movement on the patio: i hit the light, which was two blue bulbs, and there was a raccoon about the size of a german shepard with short legs, with several others, right outside the door..... when the light went on, he walked up to the door and tugged on it, so we tossed whatever Oreo's etc, we had on hand out there....... his/her relatives have been coming by ever since.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 3, 2009 11:41:19pm |
re: #57 redc1c4
i just saw two rats and a possum.... and heard an owl.
i missed one of the rats, and the possum left on it's own accord.
/next time
Our resident rat's been a little quiet too but I was just reminded to put the dog food into the metal bin. That sucker ate through the plastic one we used to have.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:41:36pm |
re: #61 reine.de.tout
Reine! Thank you VERY MUCH for your LGF Cookbook! I've really enjoyed mine. Everyone here, has bought one?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 3, 2009 11:42:14pm |
re: #65 matthew_db
Hey, the window was left open!
I've been looking to register for quite a while but tend to be quite busy weekends so I always miss the open window.
Hopefully not too many trolls slink in.
Welcome!
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:42:41pm |
re: #63 Floral Giraffe
When I lived in the Hollywierd Hills, I got used to critters. This is URBAN.There's no greenspace for 30 miles. I've seen everything 'ceot coyotes here, and if I've got racoons, there's coyotes. Just haven't seen them! I must admit, I HATE getting flea bites in the yard. What critter did the flea come from? I do miss the great horned owls. Haven't heard one here...yet....
wanna share a general area?
i'm southeast SFV
(OPSEC)
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gmsc Sun, May 3, 2009 11:42:45pm |
re: #57 redc1c4
i just saw two rats and a possum.... and heard an owl.
i missed one of the rats, and the possum left on it's own accord.
/next time
"A wise old owl sat on an oak;
The more he saw the less he spoke;
The less he spoke the more he heard;
Why aren't we like that wise old bird?"
–Classic Nursery Rhyme
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reine.de.tout Sun, May 3, 2009 11:43:52pm |
re: #68 Floral Giraffe
Reine! Thank you VERY MUCH for your LGF Cookbook! I've really enjoyed mine. Everyone here, has bought one?
We've sold 108 books to date.
Not 'MY' cookbook, it's the LGF cookbook, thanks to all who contributed in any way, specially jaunte and flakmusic who did the heavy lifting, creativity-wise.
EVERYBODY - click my nic to purchase volume 1.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, May 3, 2009 11:44:08pm |
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:44:58pm |
re: #65 matthew_db
Hey, the window was left open!
I've been looking to register for quite a while but tend to be quite busy weekends so I always miss the open window.
Hopefully not too many trolls slink in.
no open window, no fresh gamey buttocks on the grill........
speaking of which, i'll get the fire started.
anyone seen that lazy bum Blue Cannuck?
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reine.de.tout Sun, May 3, 2009 11:45:18pm |
re: #73 reine.de.tout
EVERYBODY - click my nic to purchase volume 1.
'cause if you don't, Sharmuta will yell at you.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Sun, May 3, 2009 11:47:05pm |
I went to take out the trash one evening and one of my trash barrels was wiggling and there was a scratching noise coming from it. I removed the lid and stepped back expecting a racoon to come out. Nothing. I slowly went over to the barrel and looked in, and there were 3 baby racoons looking up at me! I must have left the lid unlatched on one side, and they all must have pushed the lid up while standing on the woodpile and jumped in. They took off like rockets when I tipped the barrel over for them.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 3, 2009 11:48:57pm |
re: #78 Sharmuta
BUY A COOKBOOK!
I second that!
Half the profit goes to Soldiers' Angels.
SUPPORT THE TROOPS!
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:49:24pm |
re: #73 reine.de.tout
We've sold 108 books to date.
Not 'MY' cookbook, it's the LGF cookbook, thanks to all who contributed in any way, specially jaunte and flakmusic who did the heavy lifting, creativity-wise.EVERYBODY - click my nic to purchase volume 1.
lemme get a couple dollars in the bank first, unless you take bad czechs...........
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:50:03pm |
re: #70 redc1c4
Used to be Hollywood & Highland. Hill North of Yamashiros. Now in the South Bay area. Manhattan Beach-ish. No green space parks here....
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Sharmuta Sun, May 3, 2009 11:51:39pm |
re: #82 redc1c4
but can you cook?
Yes. And people have come back and told me my recipes are delicious.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, May 3, 2009 11:51:50pm |
My, goodness! Registration is STILL OPEN! Eeek!
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:53:13pm |
re: #81 Floral Giraffe
Used to be Hollywood & Highland. Hill North of Yamashiros. Now in the South Bay area. Manhattan Beach-ish. No green space parks here....
i know exactly whereof you speak..... there is no life east of Sepulveda.
/white smoke
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reine.de.tout Sun, May 3, 2009 11:53:30pm |
re: #80 redc1c4
lemme get a couple dollars in the bank first, unless you take bad czechs...........
c'mon now.
It's a great price.
And we throw in a snuggie and a sham-wow.
Well, not really.
But it's a good deal anyhow, what with Jaunte's artwork and all.
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:53:51pm |
re: #83 Sharmuta
Yes. And people have come back and told me my recipes are delicious.
Zombie and who else?
/white smoke
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Gus Sun, May 3, 2009 11:54:03pm |
re: #84 Floral Giraffe
My, goodness! Registration is STILL OPEN! Eeek!
Is it? Cool beans. I'm looking forward to coming down hard on any future trolls. That's going to be my policy from now on.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 3, 2009 11:54:48pm |
re: #84 Floral Giraffe
My, goodness! Registration is STILL OPEN! Eeek!
I hope Charles has his helpers on duty.
Image: monitor-lizards-goannas-in-the-kimberley-region-21746.jpg
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:55:24pm |
re: #88 Gus 802
Is it? Cool beans. I'm looking forward to coming down hard on any future trolls. That's going to be my policy from now on.
been mine all along, but then again, i'm an old Usenet person.
/guns up!
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Fenway_Nation Sun, May 3, 2009 11:55:34pm |
re: #84 Floral Giraffe
Damn.....where were all the proposed sockpuppet names that Matrix came up with that we can register!?
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Gus Sun, May 3, 2009 11:56:39pm |
re: #90 redc1c4
been mine all along, but then again, i'm an old Usenet person.
/guns up!
I hear that. Newgroups is where many cut their teeth.
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pink freud Sun, May 3, 2009 11:57:31pm |
Reine, we're honored to have you here on the LNDT! Good morning!
Matthew ...good for you! Welcome aboard.
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Sharmuta Sun, May 3, 2009 11:57:36pm |
re: #87 redc1c4
Not sure if the cookbook is up the ally of the undead.
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pink freud Sun, May 3, 2009 11:58:13pm |
Oh and red ...you get updings for being nice to the possum ....and oreos for the coons.
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Sharmuta Sun, May 3, 2009 11:58:25pm |
re: #88 Gus 802
Is it? Cool beans. I'm looking forward to coming down hard on any future trolls. That's going to be my policy from now on.
I'm always up for roast troll.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 3, 2009 11:58:44pm |
re: #87 redc1c4
Zombie and who else?
/white smoke
Well me, who else? LOL
Seriously, it's a great cookbook with great art and some of the funniest quotes, puns, etc. A fun thing to have.
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SixDegrees Sun, May 3, 2009 11:58:52pm |
re: #41 Pvt Bin Jammin
Doesn't it just make you sick how Michael Jackson has ruined his looks. He was a very attractive young kid. Sad.
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Gus Sun, May 3, 2009 11:58:54pm |
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redc1c4 Sun, May 3, 2009 11:58:59pm |
re: #94 Sharmuta
Not sure if the cookbook is up the ally of the undead.
that was a bad joke about eating your cooking, hence the white smoke.
/by the time you read this, i will be elsewhere.......
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Abu Al-Poopypants Sun, May 3, 2009 11:59:51pm |
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 12:00:00am |
Today in History, May 4th:
Highlights of this day in history: Deadly shootings at Kent State during the Vietnam War; Margaret Thatcher becomes Britain's prime minister; Chicago's Haymarket Riot; 'Freedom Riders' head South; Birth of the outfit behind the Oscars.
Among other notable May 4th events:
1871 – The National Association, the first professional baseball league, opens its first season in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
1904 – Construction begins by the United States on the Panama Canal.
1972 – The Don't Make A Wave Committee, a fledgling environmental organization founded in Canada in 1971, officially changes its name to "Greenpeace Foundation".
1988 – The PEPCON disaster rocks Henderson, Nevada, as tons of space shuttle fuel detonates during a fire.
1989 – Iran-Contra Affair: Former White House aide Oliver North is convicted of three crimes and acquitted of nine other charges. The convictions, however, are later overturned on appeal.
1994 – Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and PLO leader Yasser Arafat sign a peace accord regarding Palestinian autonomy granting self-rule in the Gaza Strip and Jericho.
1998 – A federal judge in Sacramento, California, gives "Unabomber" Theodore Kaczynski four life sentences plus 30 years after Kaczynski accepts a plea agreement sparing him from the death penalty.
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 12:00:38am |
re: #96 Sharmuta
I'm always up for roast troll.
Forgot to mention something else. I'm on snipe alert. If I see anything at those other sites that I deem as a threat I'm going to report it to the FBI. Hope they're keeping track.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 12:02:07am |
re: #98 SixDegrees
That is hilarious. gmsc posted it too so I've already had a sneak preview. He didn't need anything but he definitely should have stopped after thriller if he was going to go that route.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 12:02:29am |
The visual embodiment of the stalker deuce site. FAIL.
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 4, 2009 12:04:23am |
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 12:04:53am |
re: #103 Gus 802
Forgot to mention something else. I'm on snipe alert. If I see anything at those other sites that I deem as a threat I'm going to report it to the FBI. Hope they're keeping track.
They are likely hyperventilating over you now.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, May 4, 2009 12:05:01am |
re: #102 gmsc
And, Mom's 86th birthday! Hooray! She's rocking along!
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 12:05:13am |
re: #107 Sharmuta
They are likely hyperventilating over you now.
Speaking of which. I just found a bunch of posts at a certain site that's going to get a report to the FBI from me either now or in the morning.
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reine.de.tout Mon, May 4, 2009 12:06:26am |
g'nite, all.
Way past sleepy-time for me.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 12:06:38am |
re: #108 Floral Giraffe
And, Mom's 86th birthday! Hooray! She's rocking along!
Happy Birthday to Momma Giraffe!
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 12:06:59am |
re: #111 reine.de.tout
g'nite, all.
Way past sleepy-time for me.
Sleep well, reine. Thanks for joining us here on the LNDT!
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pink freud Mon, May 4, 2009 12:07:12am |
re: #111 reine.de.tout
g'nite, all.
Way past sleepy-time for me.
Goodnight, Reine!
I'm right behind you...
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 12:07:23am |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 12:08:26am |
re: #108 Floral Giraffe
And, Mom's 86th birthday! Hooray! She's rocking along!
Bless her heart. Tell her Happy Birthday from me, as well.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:08:47am |
re: #115 Pvt Bin Jammin
Have a great day tomorrow.
I won't last much longer either.
wimps..... you'll never get rats with that kind of thinking.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 12:10:28am |
re: #119 redc1c4
wimps..... you'll never get rats with that kind of thinking.
I'm not out yet.......
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, May 4, 2009 12:10:41am |
re: #119 redc1c4
Sneaky is the way to kill a rat.
I liked pinging them off the telephone lines the best.
And watching them bounce off the parking lot below.
Most bounced & ran,
I was disappointed.....
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 12:13:16am |
re: #121 Floral Giraffe
I need to find our pellet gun.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 12:13:18am |
re: #103 Gus 802
Fucking do it! A long while back I saw a comment there that referenced a red hot fire poker and the desire to insert it into a female Lizard here. Had I had my wits about me at the time, I would have done the same as you suggest.
Pathological snuff fantasies, these are not people of stable minds.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, May 4, 2009 12:14:24am |
Goodnight,Lizards. Have fun & play as safe as you want to!
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Abu Al-Poopypants Mon, May 4, 2009 12:14:42am |
re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth
a red hot fire poker and the desire to insert it into a female Lizard here
Yikes!
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 12:15:40am |
re: #108 Floral Giraffe
And, Mom's 86th birthday! Hooray! She's rocking along!
Happy birthday to your Mom. My Mom will be 87 in October (God willin')
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:16:00am |
re: #123 Pvt Bin Jammin
I need to find our pellet gun.
or call me over.... or both. we can have a BRM class and a few martoonis!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 12:17:51am |
re: #127 redc1c4
yeah, but the one i just hit is..... %-)
Good for you. Like I said, I have to find that old pellet gun. All I could rustle up quick enough to use right now is a bayonette and I don't think I want to go there.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 12:18:41am |
re: #130 Sharmuta
Likely scrubbed by now.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 12:20:15am |
re: #133 redc1c4
I have seen that too and everybody who is referenced is aware of it. I'm rather surprised the feds haven't already done something about it.
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 12:20:24am |
re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth
Fucking do it! A long while back I saw a comment there that referenced a red hot fire poker and the desire to insert it into a female Lizard here. Had I had my wits about me at the time, I would have done the same as you suggest.
Pathological snuff fantasies, these are not people of stable minds.
OK, I'm about to send it out. FBI site. The Google search is rather extreme but it points to threats in said site.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 12:20:25am |
re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth
What makes you think they'd have the decency to delete that?
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 12:22:58am |
re: #137 Gus 802
Is this one of the stalker sites, or something else?
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 12:23:21am |
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:24:26am |
re: #134 Pvt Bin Jammin
Good for you. Like I said, I have to find that old pellet gun. All I could rustle up quick enough to use right now is a bayonette and I don't think I want to go there.
not a good idea, given your target, even if they'd let you get that close. they are a disease vector, after all.
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 12:24:40am |
Slumbering Behemoth, here is a sample of Ennio's "The Mission".
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:27:20am |
personal update if you weren't here for the fryday night LNDT: went to the english screening for the UCLA paralegal program caturday morning.....
quell traumatique...... (not)
final results in about two weeks, so hope for the best.
(or wish me evil: see if i care. %-)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 12:30:19am |
re: #138 Sharmuta
It was a while back, before format switch. I know who said it, and who they were saying it about, but I am having trouble finding it with obvious search terms.
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 12:30:35am |
Used the following to submit the report:
[Link: tips.fbi.gov...]
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:31:35am |
re: #148 Slumbering Behemoth
It was a while back, before format switch. I know who said it, and who they were saying it about, but I am having trouble finding it with obvious search terms.
maybe something just happened to that person......
/one can hope.
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jordash1212 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:31:59am |
I guess Charles is leaving registration on overnight :-O
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:32:44am |
re: #146 Sharmuta
I love Caturdays.
every day is caturday here on FOB DeDe...... and the boys know it.
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persiankippah Mon, May 4, 2009 12:33:58am |
Why do I keep seeing ads for Muslima.com when I visit LGF? I hate seeing these poor girls locked into that headgear just waiting for an honor beating (killing).
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 12:34:09am |
re: #152 Sharmuta
It was early on, in the whole thing.
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 12:34:55am |
re: #151 jordash1212
Oh, crap! It could get interesting here.
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freetoken Mon, May 4, 2009 12:35:45am |
Would it surprise anyone to find out that the Beckians are 'nirthing again?
From the first page of 5/3/09: President Obama’s Popularity Is AVERAGE…
CajunBlackjack 52p · 8 hours ago
I have heard that on his Application for his scholarship he applied as a foreign national to get the scholarship, if this is true either he was lying then or lying now. He can't have it both ways. what I don't understand is why all these documents can conveniently disappear without a serious investigation being launched by someone in power. either way the man is a fraud. If he is found that he can't legally be president, can we get it annulled. I would rather he go down in history as the greatest con-man in history than a President of America-
fedupwithourfed 0p · 9 hours ago
He's not even average, in my opinion. I believe the powers that be in this country that have been dumbing down our society have finally succeeded in their goal. They take a mulatto physically born in Mambasso, Kenya, and pass him off to the American people (who he refers to as "sheeple") as a true educated American-born citizen, give him the responsibility to deliver prewritten speeches programmed onto teleprompters to the American public (which he can't even pronounce "orion" correctly from, he took the opportunity to thank himself from on St. Patrick's Day, and who looks like a "deer in the headlights" when his trusty teleprompter fails him) to pass himself off as a leader (which he's not) that can solve all of America's woes. [Continues on with the normal Obama ranting...]
That's what gets by the censors, btw. People over there are complaining about their messages being censored, but I can see why Beck has to do it. On another thread over there I checked a couple of hours ago there was some pretty nasty stuff about Aids/HIV and Africans. It's gone now... proving that there are some things too vile even for Beck to allow . Yet 'nirthing is quite acceptable.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:35:48am |
found this photo collection on AoSHQ, of all places.......
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:37:04am |
re: #155 persiankippah
Why do I keep seeing ads for Muslima.com when I visit LGF? I hate seeing these poor girls locked into that headgear just waiting for an honor beating (killing).
has to do with the automatic nature of internet advertising..... you can send him a message with the URL if you want him to consider blocking it.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:38:33am |
re: #160 redc1c4
has to do with the automatic nature of internet advertising..... you can send him a message with the URL if you want him to consider blocking it.
of course, a better question might be why are you asking the question?
persiankippah
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Registered since: Jan 14, 2008 at 9:51 am
No. of comments posted: 5
No. of links posted: 0
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persiankippah Mon, May 4, 2009 12:38:38am |
I mean, I "get" why they come up. I'll just keep doing what i'm doing: click on the ads so Chuck gets paid.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 12:38:55am |
Gus has now likely skyrocketed to most hated Lizard. Maybe even more than Killgore.
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freetoken Mon, May 4, 2009 12:39:47am |
All the adverts I see are of a pudgy old white guy by the name of "Newt"... not my idea of a hot date.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:40:30am |
re: #164 Sharmuta
Gus has now likely skyrocketed to most hated Lizard. Maybe even more than Killgore.
which one is "Gus"?
i'm *so* not in with the "in crowd".......
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 12:40:34am |
re: #164 Sharmuta
Gus has now likely skyrocketed to most hated Lizard. Maybe even more than Killgore.
I don't really see Gus outside of the LNDTs.
Gus, what are you doing? You never struck me as particularly infamous.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:41:24am |
re: #165 freetoken
All the adverts I see are of a pudgy old white guy by the name of "Newt"... not my idea of a hot date.
you still date? at your age?
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 12:41:27am |
re: #164 Sharmuta
Gus has now likely skyrocketed to most hated Lizard. Maybe even more than Killgore.
Yep. Not surprisingly it's based on a complete straw man argument. Hope they don't mind me keeping an eye on them. I have a lot of contact information.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 12:42:13am |
re: #145 Sharmuta
Incoming. From a new addy.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:42:29am |
re: #168 gmsc
Gus 802.
is that a polynomial? cause if it is, i flunked that part of math.....
can you spell it out?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 12:42:31am |
re: #164 Sharmuta
Gus has now likely skyrocketed to most hated Lizard. Maybe even more than Killgore.
Gus is really just one of Charles' sockpuppets. ;-)
Maybe Gus is really Charles. I'm so confused./
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 12:43:53am |
re: #167 gmsc
Gus is a nazi, and now has informed the Feds of these sickos. My guess is they are in a tizzy over him now.
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 12:43:57am |
re: #167 gmsc
I don't really see Gus outside of the LNDTs.
Gus, what are you doing? You never struck me as particularly infamous.
Nothing at all really. I just pointed out some Chetnik principles of human liquidation and Rodan decided to defend it while claiming that that made me a Nazi. Funny how that works.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:44:49am |
re: #175 Sharmuta
Gus is a nazi, and now has informed the Feds of these sickos. My guess is they are in a tizzy over him now.
and a traitor to the conservative cause..... i say we start a web page so that we can denounce him properly.
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 12:45:22am |
re: #175 Sharmuta
Gus is a nazi, and now has informed the Feds of these sickos. My guess is they are in a tizzy over him now.
That's about it. Keep an eye out for any threats while you can.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 12:46:08am |
re: #155 persiankippah
Why do I keep seeing ads for Muslima.com when I visit LGF? I hate seeing these poor girls locked into that headgear just waiting for an honor beating (killing).
This has been explained plenty of times. Must understands teh internets.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:46:46am |
re: #179 Gus 802
That's about it. Keep an eye out for any threats while you can.
stay low, stay quiet and scan the horizon.......
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freetoken Mon, May 4, 2009 12:47:35am |
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Ledger1 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:48:20am |
Some humor form The Nose On Your Face and Iowahawk:
TNOYF
[Picture of Press Secretary Robert Gibbs at the podium]
I want to address the unfortunate events in New York yesterday involving the back-up Air Force One plane. Clearly, flying the Presidential plane low over the city that suffered the worst attack on American soil, trailed by two fighter planes, might have been a bit ill-advised. But I’m happy to report that no one in the White House actually knew about it. Yes, Jake.
[Picture of Jake Tapper]
So now the President has called for an investigation?
[Picture of Press Secretary Robert Gibbs at the podium]
Absolutely. We need to harness the full power of the government to get to the bottom of a frivolous event that cost the American taxpayer $328,835.…Look, Jake. I know there are many Americans who will see some sort of superficial irony in spending taxpayer money to investigate a waste of taxpayer money, but that’s a gross simplification of an issue that has many layers and nuances that I just can’t get into here. Suffice it to say, we should be grateful to have a President who can fathom it’s staggering complexities.
[Picture of Jake Tapper]
I guess I’m missing the complexity...
Gibbs and Tapper discuss NY fly over
Iowahawk skewers Chris Mathews in “HardFire.”
Dave Burge
Welcome to Iowahawk HARDFIRE! I'm your host Dave Burge. In today's edition of HARDFIRE!: Americans running terrified in the streets, wearing respirator masks, openly complaining about taxes -- coincidence, or deadly harbinger of a new age of national
schizophrenic paranoia? Joining me to find answers are actress-activist Janeane Garofalo, spokesvirus for the Latino immigrant disease community Porco Influenza, and White House transportation czar Air Force One. Put on your asbestos groin cup and let's play HARDFIRE!...
Janeane Garofalo
Just look at all the paranoid teabagger Nuremburg parties. Do you really think those were spontaneous? Here's how it works. Skull and Bones calls Cheney. Cheney calls Rove. Rove calls O'Reilly. The next thing you know there's a zombie army of Klansman goosestepping all over the town square of East Bumf*ck, Idaho, looking for tax cuts and lynching trees.
Dave Burge
Are you saying they're all racist? Even the little kids and old ladies?
Janeane Garofalo
What other possible explanation could there be for opposing Obama? Look, if the white hood fits, wear it. Actually those little kids and old ladies are the probably the worst. Those kids are already hopelessly brainwashed by Fox. You'd be surprised at how many times a day children run from me in terror. And don't let the sweater vests and Wal-Mart applique jeans fool you, those midwestern nazi grandmas are one snap away from blowing up their mobility scooters in front of a federal building...
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 12:48:41am |
re: #181 redc1c4
stay low, stay quiet and scan the horizon.......
Thanks. I shall. They fit the profile.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 12:49:21am |
re: #177 Gus 802
Nothing at all really. I just pointed out some Chetnik principles of human liquidation and Rodan decided to defend it while claiming that that made me a Nazi. Funny how that works.
There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold;
The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
But the queerest they ever did see
Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
I cremated Sam McGee.
If you're a Nazi, this Robert Service guy must've been a monster!
;)
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 12:49:37am |
re: #179 Gus 802
I haven't look at the 2 in months- so it was kind of funny to see them calling me out. I hope they know I ignore them. I would help keep an eye on them, but there is only so much personal abuse one can take before it's just an auto-gaze thing. I really appreciate others keeping an eye on them. I just can't do it.
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 12:53:49am |
re: #187 Sharmuta
I haven't look at the 2 in months- so it was kind of funny to see them calling me out. I hope they know I ignore them. I would help keep an eye on them, but there is only so much personal abuse one can take before it's just an auto-gaze thing. I really appreciate others keeping an eye on them. I just can't do it.
I usually ignore them. In fact I was just responding to a request for information and the idiot in question blew head gasket. I'll probably go to sleep and forget about it in the morning. I'm a lot older then these losers so I tend to keep things balanced with other issues like real life.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 12:57:00am |
re: #189 Gus 802
I usually ignore them. In fact I was just responding to a request for information and the idiot in question blew head gasket. I'll probably go to sleep and forget about it in the morning. I'm a lot older then these losers so I tend to keep things balanced with other issues like real life.
well that would certainly take all the fun out of the exchange......
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 12:59:59am |
re: #187 Sharmuta
I shouldn't look at it either. It just makes my blood pressure go up. I left it alone for a long time because I thought they were getting real but lately it seems like the hate is starting up again. I really don't get it. If I ever got banned I'd just go back to some little comfortable blog where I was before I came here.....ten posts per day.
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 1:01:52am |
re: #192 Pvt Bin Jammin
Look at what? I'm sorry, but I'm in the dark.
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 1:02:05am |
re: #190 redc1c4
well that would certainly take all the fun out of the exchange......
It does but I'm always ready. If they want to amp this up I'll use every legal route available. I will check the Terms of Service with Blue Host dot Com and see if they're violating it. Then make a couple of calls and send out some emails.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 1:03:38am |
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 1:04:20am |
re: #194 Gus 802
It does but I'm always ready. If they want to amp this up I'll use every legal route available. I will check the Terms of Service with Blue Host dot Com and see if they're violating it. Then make a couple of calls and send out some emails.
dude: i was talking about being "balanced".................
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 1:04:29am |
re: #194 Gus 802
Charles mentioned they are violating terms of service- it's registered with a fake name. Perhaps you should send him an email and request the information.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 1:04:52am |
re: #195 Pvt Bin Jammin
Stalker part duece.
All they seem to ever do is hate on us.
is the web page titled "6 Flags over Nothing"?
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 1:05:25am |
well that would certainly take all the fun out of the exchange......
Here's the TOS from Blue Host:
13. Other Illegal Activities. The use of the Services to engage in any activity that is determined by BlueHost.Com, in its sole and absolute discretion, to be illegal is prohibited. Such illegal activities include, but are not limited to, storing, posting, displaying, transmitting or otherwise making available ponzi or pyramid schemes, fraudulently charging credit cards or displaying credit card information of third parties without their consent, and failure to comply with applicable on-line privacy laws. BlueHost.Com will cooperate fully with appropriate law enforcement agencies in connection with any and all illegal activities occurring on or through the Services.
14. Obscene, Defamatory, Abusive or Threatening Language. Use of the Services to store, post, transmit, display or otherwise make available obscene, defamatory, harassing, abusive or threatening language is prohibited.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 1:05:59am |
re: #192 Pvt Bin Jammin
I've done my fair share of reading Charles-hate, but when they start going after your friends too- there's just so much I can stomach. Perhaps I'll start checkig in more often, though. This is out of hand.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 1:06:01am |
re: #199 BatGuano
You are going to have to be creative. We would never link.
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 1:06:46am |
re: #197 Sharmuta
Charles mentioned they are violating terms of service- it's registered with a fake name. Perhaps you should send him an email and request the information.
I think I will in the next couple of days. This has turned into harassment which is against the Blue Host TOS.
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 1:08:22am |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 1:08:58am |
re: #201 Sharmuta
Like I said, that was early on but today they are after us again. It's sick.
I don't have those earlier posts saved myself but someone probably managed to do it.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 1:09:26am |
And people wonder why I don't discuss my private life much.....
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 4, 2009 1:10:23am |
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 1:11:36am |
re: #206 Sharmuta
And people wonder why I don't discuss my private life much.....
Hear that. The irony here is that it seems that the greatest threat comes from the extremist right-wing factions and neo-Nazi apologists. I suppose that's not an irony at this point.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 1:11:44am |
re: #206 Sharmuta
And people wonder why I don't discuss my private life much.....
i don't worry.... rats always come to the same end at my house. %-)
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Fenway_Nation Mon, May 4, 2009 1:14:23am |
re: #206 Sharmuta
I tend not to do it because there hasn't been a whole lot happening in awhile.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 1:18:57am |
re: #206 Sharmuta
Word! I practice strict interwebs hygiene. I have been linked to "Teh Maytricks" since about '97, and if you were to "google" my meat world name all you would get are links to a scientist.
Obviously, I am not that scientist.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 1:20:23am |
re: #212 Slumbering Behemoth
Word! I practice strict interwebs hygiene. I have been linked to "Teh Maytricks" since about '97, and if you were to "google" my meat world name all you would get are links to a scientist.
Obviously, I am not that scientist.
or so you say......
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 1:21:49am |
speaking of rats, that's #2 for the night....... fat dumb and happy on the skyline.
/not any more.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 1:23:50am |
re: #209 redc1c4
i don't worry.... rats always come to the same end at my house. %-)
The trick is, how do we herd all these rats your way? And, more importantly, is there an extra chair on you porch for The Behemoth? If there is, does that spot include ordinance and beer?
/plinking is fun
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 1:25:13am |
Better go to sleep. Good night everyone and remember that there are evil people watching this site so be careful about what information you divulge.
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Gus Mon, May 4, 2009 1:26:49am |
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Fenway_Nation Mon, May 4, 2009 1:27:21am |
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 1:27:53am |
re: #215 Slumbering Behemoth
The trick is, how do we herd all these rats your way? And, more importantly, is there an extra chair on you porch for The Behemoth? If there is, does that spot include ordinance and beer?
/plinking is fun
there is likely an ordinance against what i do, but since i never ask if i can employ ordnance, it shouldn't be an issue.
BYOB...... and some for me.
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 1:28:37am |
Register is still open. Shouldn't someone call Charles? Anyone?
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 1:29:50am |
re: #216 Gus 802
Better go to sleep. Good night everyone and remember that there are evil people watching this site so be careful about what information you divulge.
yeah, though i walk thorough the valley of death, i shall fear no evil for i practice both OPSEC and IA drills...... Molon Labe.
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freetoken Mon, May 4, 2009 1:32:11am |
Well, I've probably caused enough damage for one day.... but I'll leave y'all with some more food for thought.
Over on PJM there was an article posted yesterday by one Mary Grabar, entitled: Yes, the Government Is Out to Get ‘Right-Wing Extremists’, subtitled "The infamous DHS memo is part of a broader campaign to silence conservative voices." It starts of thusly:
The Department of Homeland Security’s release of the “right-wing extremism” report should anger everyone. Janet Napolitano’s faux apology to veterans glossed over the real message of this memo: to intimidate the 60 million Americans who voted against Obama. [emphasis added]
What can I say.... I know Charles was part of the founding of PJM, though it is quite apparent that he has no editorial influence on it now (does he?)
Just for the record, this Mary Grabar has (like Melanie Phillips, but only younger)... history.
Huckabee and Modern-Day Clarence Darrows: Inheriting the Wind on Evolution
Books attacking religion, particularly Christianity, have earned quite a bit of money recently for publishers and their authors. Pundits are now having a field day attacking Mike Huckabee’s stance on evolution. Democratic strategist Paul Begala reportedly remarked on CNN on Super Tuesday, “Nobody is more conservative than Huckabee. He doesn’t believe in evolution or gravity or photosynthesis.”Those who love to lob such oversimplified charges imply that those who do not accept the doctrinaire theories of evolution as set forth by one explorer named Charles Darwin, a century-and-a-half ago, are relics of the Dark Ages. [...]
But what Darrow and Jerome Lawrence and Robert E. Lee (authors of the play) and most promoters of Darwinism don’t know is that the “bold” and “new” theory of evolution was being promoted more than 2,000 years ago by the Roman philosopher Lucretius. [...]
Darrow’s rhetoric is mimicked in the more recent atheist jeremiads by Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and Sam Harris. A susceptible public, exposed to one side of the debate in public schools, [sigh...] brought their recent tomes—God Is Not Great, The God Delusion, and The End of Faith, respectively--to the best seller lists. [...]
William Jennings Bryan pointed out that the “doctrine” that Darrow and the evolutionists would teach in the schools is the very same one “that gives us Nietzsche . . . who tried to carry this to its logical conclusion” in the idea of the superman. That Nietzsche’s nihilistic views questioning the very notion of evil could influence a rich young man whose goal was to coldly carry out a “perfect murder” makes sense given the premises. In the Darwinian view, animals (including the higher animals like man) act according to environmental forces. That would include not only physical stimuli, but also intellectual stimuli.
And that was what the Tennessee lawmakers objected to: the promotion of Darwin’s ideas as moral guidance. Weaver argues that Darrow, if he believes that Nietzsche could have a negative moral impact, should acknowledge the same for Darwin. [...]
Euthanasia and infanticide, commonly accepted practices before Biblical times, illustrate most starkly Darwinian “survival of the fittest.” In 1925, the eugenics movement was catching on [...] [emphasis added]
Do I really need to go on?
[cont.]
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 1:35:28am |
re: #216 Gus 802
Better go to sleep. Good night everyone and remember that there are evil people watching this site so be careful about what information you divulge.
Sleep well. Good night, Gus.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 1:37:04am |
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 1:40:19am |
re: #226 freetoken
Hi, Freetoken. How would you summarize what you posted? In other words, where do you stand?
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 1:42:41am |
re: #229 Sharmuta
I'm relatively new here and I didn't know. I waited for six months for the opportunity to register and the open window was short.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 1:44:29am |
Sorry I haven't posted much tonight. I am still here!
My mom and I both used to enjoy a now-hard-to-find Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber VHS called "Premier Collection Encore". I've been spending this time trying to find the videos that were on this tape, and I've finally managed to do it!
This is just one part of a whole thing I'm doing for Mother's Day (next Sunday, May 10th, if you forgot!).
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 1:45:32am |
re: #230 BatGuano
I can't speak for freetoken, but I think that the issue stems from the fact that DHS is not out to "get" your average republican voter.
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freetoken Mon, May 4, 2009 1:50:13am |
[cont.]
Heck, why not.
In another article by Ms. Grabar, The making of a mass murderer-- In english class, about the mass murder Cho, in a rant against the secular higher education system:
[...] Cho’s screed against Christianity is only slightly less logical than those that have been penned and published by Ph.D.’s since the 1960s.
At one time, institutions of “higher learning” cultivated an appreciation for the sublime through a study of literature. Literature dealt with the lofty and heroic—even among God’s fallen creatures. Of course, the notion of the sublime is meaningless to the soulless professor and administrator mired in the material realm like the cattle that Plato presents in The Republic [...]
Or how about this one, entitled Letter to a Stupid Atheist where she writes:
[...] But would you hold up Professor Singer as an example of a rational person? How about the other respected professionals—the doctors and professors--who wrote academic and policy papers on their new-found procedures of gassing “idiots” and “imbeciles” in Germany? The method went through its testing phase in teaching hospitals on subjects who were too young or too retarded to be deemed rational enough to “live a life worth living.” Hitler then grasped onto this idea of “scientific advancement” and applied the procedure on a massive scale to other groups, as we know. [...]
Invoking Hitler... bleechh.....
Her opinion of science? Found here in Martin Luther King, Jr.’s, “God Delusion”?:
[...] Richard Dawkins, author of The God Delusion, asks believers to follow his doctrine of empirical science (a relatively young and unstable endeavor compared to religion). [...]
Sigh... PJM has been going downhill for some time. That they have the likes of Ms. Grabar writing paranoid wing-nut trope is just another rung down the ladder of credibility for them.
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 1:52:20am |
re: #233 Sharmuta
OK. I never thought that they were. It reminds me of posters on LGF who say," I didn't think a sarc tag was necessary. It's obvious what I meant".
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freetoken Mon, May 4, 2009 1:53:03am |
re: #233 Sharmuta
I can't speak for freetoken, but I think that the issue stems from the fact that DHS is not out to "get" your average republican voter.
You got it right. Her other writings paint a clear enough picture, not just the ones I quoted but those scattered throughout the internet.
There is no doubt that ideological differences exist among groups of the American citizenry, or even that those differences may be increasing (at least in rhetoric if not substance.)
To think the DHS is out to get anyone who didn't vote for Obama is venturing (well) into Alex Jones territory.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 1:55:18am |
re: #234 redc1c4
lik i'm wun to talk?
Hey, I bust on Lizards all the time for typos (in a humorous, but not derogatory way), so I deserve the same in kind. All in good fun.
looks like they're a dam sight easier to hit than my Norwegians.....
Yeah, but you gotta admit there is a fun factor. Late night, bed of a moving truck, rifle in hand, and big ass rats for targets. They should sell tickets for that ride (observing proper checks and regulations, of course).
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abolitionist Mon, May 4, 2009 1:55:39am |
PASHTO NICE SONG (LEKA DE GUL PESHAN AZGHO KE OSEM)AIMAN UDASS
zama da meene na toba da (ayman udas)
Ayman Udas [Shamim] - A BIOGRAPHICAL NOTE
Ayman Udas [Shamim] - The sweet voice that was silenced with bullets in Peshawar on April 27, 2009:
The pashto singer and poetess, Ayman Udas whose real name was Shamim, was shot dead inside her flat on the Dilazak Road, Peshawar on Monday, April 27, 2009. The news of the murder of Shamim shocked the artists community as well as thousands of her fans. She was killed at the peak of her career. In her early 30s, she was divorced and had got married for the second time last month. GOD BLESS AYMAN SOUL.
Usman, the widower of the singer and lyricist, told the Paharipura police that Aymans brothers were against her second marriage as well as her singing. On monday, Alamgir and Ismail, brothers of Ayman, allegedly shot her dead after she left her flat to fetch milk.
The police lodged an FIR in the case and raided several spots to arrest the killers. Immediately after the killing of Ayman, it was largely suspected that militants might have killed her because several male and female singers, as well as drama artists, had received threats from certain militant groups. However, her husband later clarified that she was killed by her own brothers for breaking the family traditions by marrying for the second time.
Source: Javed Aziz Khan, THE NEWS, Wednesday, April 29, 2009.
tora em dey rangha.... Something about the audience tells me this was recent.
Singer, dancer, actress too. Skip to 7:00. It's eerie. I think Van Gogh was over the target. JihadWatch has more info. [Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 1:58:25am |
I can almost taste the fruitcup (and I'm pretty sure littleoldlady's up and about)!
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 1:59:36am |
re: #240 abolitionist
Links to that site aren't welcome here.
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:00:05am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!
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freetoken Mon, May 4, 2009 2:00:37am |
Well, I probably really have stirred the water enough in one day, so I'm going to call it quits and go to bed...
One last thought: I realize quite readily that many lizards don't like President Obama. I am not fond of him myself (though I don't find him anywhere near as unpalatable as many others here.)
There is a very big gulf between dislike/disapprove and hate/fear. After only 105 days we have seen plenty of meltdowns in the right-wing blog-o-sphere, the growth of neo-Birchers (beyond Ron Paul and his followers), the mainstreaming of what was once considered late night radio nut cases, and so on.
I wonder what the next 44 months will bring?
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:00:38am |
re: #243 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!
Yummy!
(I saw you peeking at my Mother's Day post ;)
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:00:38am |
gmsc! :-)
All night, in fact. :-( But I made it to fruitcup.
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 2:01:46am |
re: #243 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!
Good morning lol, Thank you for the fruitcup.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:01:49am |
re: #246 littleoldlady
gmsc! :-)
All night, in fact. :-( But I made it to fruitcup.
All night! Are you OK?
Speaking of being OK, my mom wanted you to know she's finally over that cold/flu she had for 2 weeks (that I'm going to pretend I didn't give to her, but actually did).
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:02:03am |
re: #241 gmsc
I can almost taste the fruitcup (and I'm pretty sure littleoldlady's up and about)!
if you can already taste the fruitcup, you should see a doctor.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:02:39am |
re: #222 BatGuano
Register is still open. Shouldn't someone call Charles? Anyone?
Lots more troll meat this way, I'm hungry.
And I feel the need, the need for some sockpuppet thrashing!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:04:09am |
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:05:00am |
re: #249 gmsc
You're a good boy, gmsc! :-)
/kena hura, tacha, pui pui!
I am very glad mom is better.
/cross that one off my Worry List.
I fell asleep by accident early in the evening and woke up at 11:30. :-( Going back to bed in a minute, since I've blown this day to hell. :-( :-( :-(
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:05:30am |
re: #244 freetoken
Well, I probably really have stirred the water enough in one day, so I'm going to call it quits and go to bed...
One last thought: I realize quite readily that many lizards don't like President Obama. I am not fond of him myself (though I don't find him anywhere near as unpalatable as many others here.)
There is a very big gulf between dislike/disapprove and hate/fear. After only 105 days we have seen plenty of meltdowns in the right-wing blog-o-sphere, the growth of neo-Birchers (beyond Ron Paul and his followers), the mainstreaming of what was once considered late night radio nut cases, and so on.
I wonder what the next 44 months will bring?
Ear Leader enjoys my utter contempt. However, on the off chance that he might find an acorn sooner or later, i will rejoice in that random chance, but until then, i will let his training, experience and previous performance be my guide.
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abolitionist Mon, May 4, 2009 2:05:59am |
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:06:05am |
re: #256 littleoldlady
You're a good boy, gmsc! :-)
/kena hura, tacha, pui pui!
I am very glad mom is better.
/cross that one off my Worry List.
I fell asleep by accident early in the evening and woke up at 11:30. :-( Going back to bed in a minute, since I've blown this day to hell. :-( :-( :-(
You've earned the rest.
I've always tried to be the good one.
:)
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freetoken Mon, May 4, 2009 2:06:09am |
re: #243 littleoldlady
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Looks wonderful... sadly, I'm too pooped to enjoy. g'night...
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:06:56am |
'Night, freetoken, my favorite fruitcup stager! ;-)
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little blessing Mon, May 4, 2009 2:07:14am |
re: #257 redc1c4
Making the email rounds in Australia:
People said that America would have an African American president when pigs fly...
Swine Flu.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:07:54am |
I'm fruit intolerant....any chance for some potato soup?
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:08:23am |
re: #256 littleoldlady
You're a good boy, gmsc! :-)
/kena hura, tacha, pui pui!
I am very glad mom is better.
/cross that one off my Worry List.
I fell asleep by accident early in the evening and woke up at 11:30. :-( Going back to bed in a minute, since I've blown this day to hell. :-( :-( :-(
welcome to my life......
suckage to the left, suckage to the right, doom to the rear and damnation ahead......Bugler! Sound the attack!
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:08:38am |
re: #255 Fenway_Nation
Just in time for the Swine Flu....
You think that's bad? I sell one product at work that is almost always a sure sale when I put it in the potential customer's hands and have them try it out.
The store I work at hasn't been able to get this product for about 1.5 months, and we've finally got it back in – just in time for swine flu season! No, almost no one at work wants to demo it, because it requires so much contact between them and complete strangers.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:09:12am |
re: #264 FurryOldGuyJeans
I'm fruit intolerant....any chance for some potato soup?
potatoe vodka, maybe?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 2:09:32am |
re: #244 freetoken
There is a very big gulf between dislike/disapprove and hate/fear.
Liked that enough to repeat it. Obama is not the devil incarnate that some wackos paint him to be, nor is he the savior of America that other wackos paint him to be.
Just another douche-bag politician whose policies I find mostly objectionable.
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abolitionist Mon, May 4, 2009 2:09:54am |
re: #263 Sharmuta
Sorry. Missed the notice, altho I do try to keep my list up to date.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:10:23am |
re: #262 little blessing
Making the email rounds in Australia:
People said that America would have an African American president when pigs fly...
Swine Flu.
there's a few comments there, but i don't need to get banned again.
/once is enough.
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:10:29am |
re: #265 redc1c4
Who the FRIK has the energy for an attack?!
/...can barely keep my eyes open
red! :-)
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:10:39am |
re: #264 FurryOldGuyJeans
I'm fruit intolerant
You see no excuse for fruit and you won't stand for it?
;)
....any chance for some potato soup?
I just had some cream of potato soup for dinner tonight – yumminy!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:10:44am |
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little blessing Mon, May 4, 2009 2:11:53am |
re: #272 redc1c4
/The teacher is happy when the student learns the lesson...even the hard way!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:12:43am |
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little blessing Mon, May 4, 2009 2:13:41am |
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little blessing Mon, May 4, 2009 2:14:09am |
re: #279 FurryOldGuyJeans
Careful....next time your going to have to make it!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:14:17am |
re: #268 redc1c4
potatoe vodka, maybe?
I don't know of any other kind, really.
But vodka and coffee make a bad mix. ;)
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 2:14:45am |
re: #271 abolitionist
Just trying to let you know. That comment will get deleted. If you want to share that article again without the jw link, I would repost it.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:14:55am |
re: #281 little blessing
Careful....next time your going to have to make it!
Oh, I wish I did have a recipe, I LOVE to cook.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 2:15:05am |
re: #276 gmsc
C'mon! We have Canadian Lizards here. No need to rub their faces in that sort of stuff.
/
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:15:12am |
re: #280 little blessing
Are we starting a new tradition?
Dinner for some and brekkie for the rest!
I see that I'm gonna need a bigger bailout... ;-)
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:16:08am |
re: #282 FurryOldGuyJeans
I don't know of any other kind, really.
But vodka and coffee make a bad mix. ;)
proportions are everything......
try necking the coffee down to zero. %-)
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:16:10am |
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:16:44am |
re: #286 Slumbering Behemoth
C'mon! We have Canadian Lizards here. No need to rub their faces in that sort of stuff.
/
If Australians are from Australia, and Indians are from India, how come Canadians aren't from Canadia?
;)
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:17:08am |
re: #285 FurryOldGuyJeans
O’CHARLEY’S LOADED POTATO SOUP
INGREDIENTS
3 pounds red potatoes
1/4 cup margarine, melted
1/4 cup flour
8 cups half-and-half
1 (16 ounce) block Velveeta cheese, melted
White pepper, to taste
Garlic powder, to taste
1 teaspoon hot pepper sauce
1/2 pound bacon, fried crisply
1 cup Cheddar cheese, shredded
1/2 cup fresh chives, choppedDIRECTIONS
Dice unpeeled red potatoes into 1/2-inch cubes. Place in a large sauce pan, cover with water and bring to a boil. Let boil for 10 minutes or until 3/4 cooked.
In a separate large sauce pan, combine melted margarine and flour, mixing until smooth. Place over low heat and gradually add half-and-half, stirring constantly. Continue to stir until smooth and liquid begins to thicken.
Add melted Velveeta. Stir well. Drain potatoes and add to cream mixture. Stir in pepper, garlic powder and hot pepper sauce. Cover and cook over low heat for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally.
Place soup into individual serving bowls and top with crumbled bacon, shredded cheese, and chives. I also garnish mine with sour cream.
Makes 8 servings
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:17:11am |
re: #288 redc1c4
proportions are everything......
try necking the coffee down to zero. %-)
Oh, that would be sacrilege! Better necking down the vodka.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:17:20am |
re: #285 FurryOldGuyJeans
Oh, I wish I did have a recipe, I LOVE to cook.
If only some sort of cookbook were offered on LGF . . .
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:18:47am |
re: #291 littleoldlady
Saved, thank you VERY much. :)
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 2:19:11am |
re: #291 littleoldlady
I've never tasted Velveeta. Is it like cheddar?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:19:39am |
re: #293 gmsc
If only some sort of cookbook were offered on LGF . . .
you wanna buy me one? I am not exactly swimming in cash being unemployable military disabled.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:19:40am |
re: #292 FurryOldGuyJeans
Oh, that would be sacrilege! Better necking down the vodka.
that's heresy.
/death to the infidel!
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:19:50am |
re: #298 BatGuano
I've never tasted Velveeta. Is it like cheddar?
No. Cheddar is a cheese. Velveeta is . . . well . . . not.
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:20:07am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:20:40am |
re: #298 BatGuano
I've never tasted Velveeta. Is it like cheddar?
No.
Velveeta is a taste unto itself.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:21:00am |
re: #298 BatGuano
I've never tasted Velveeta. Is it like cheddar?
government cheddar........ without the flavor, the scent or the texture.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:21:17am |
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 2:21:44am |
re: #303 FurryOldGuyJeans
I've always been curious about Velveeta and Venezuelan beaver cheese.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:22:15am |
re: #302 littleoldlady
RUBBER cheddar.
/you're not missing much ;-)
I once heard Velveeta described as a "processed cheese food".
My first thought, "Cheese food?!? What? Is this what they feed to cheese?"
My second though was, "You know, if they have to label it as food, that's not a good sign."
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:22:18am |
re: #305 FurryOldGuyJeans
LU-LU-LU-LU-LU! Aloha Snackbar!
/spins up the minigun........
smile for the camera!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:22:55am |
re: #308 BatGuano
I've always been curious about Velveeta and Venezuelan beaver cheese.
Then you will have to remain curious because I haven't a clue, nor want to even remotely get within a thousand parsecs of one on that subject.
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little blessing Mon, May 4, 2009 2:23:50am |
Off to fill a script. G'day everyone!
FurryOldGuyJeans - If you like potatoes, you'll probably love my potato leek soup but I'll have to post it another time.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:24:00am |
re: #313 FurryOldGuyJeans
Then you will have to remain curious because I haven't a clue, nor want to even remotely get within a thousand parsecs of one on that subject.
damn if i want to either..... it wood be nice if we could skip it entirely.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:24:13am |
re: #308 BatGuano
I've always been curious about Velveeta and Venezuelan beaver cheese.
re: #313 FurryOldGuyJeans
Then you will have to remain curious because I haven't a clue, nor want to even remotely get within a thousand parsecs of one on that subject.
It's the cheese that made the Velveeta run in less than 12 parsecs!
;)
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haakondahl Mon, May 4, 2009 2:24:36am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:24:46am |
re: #314 little blessing
Off to fill a script. G'day everyone!
FurryOldGuyJeans - If you like potatoes, you'll probably love my potato leek soup but I'll have to post it another time.
I am an omnivore when it comes to what I like to cook, and hence eat.
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:25:48am |
re: #306 Sharmuta
Does it count that I stole it off the internet?
My family recipe for cold potato soup is...peel, cube and boil a bunch of potatoes until soft. Drain but leave a little water. Stir in some sour cream, add salt and pepper to taste. Serve with fresh rye bread and butter.
Kind of a peasant vichyssoise, but still better than most of my Hungarian recipes that begin with: Steal a chicken...
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little blessing Mon, May 4, 2009 2:26:20am |
re: #318 FurryOldGuyJeans
Same, so we'll share steak recipes next!
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:27:13am |
re: #319 littleoldlady
Does it count that I stole it off the internet?
My family recipe for cold potato soup is...peel, cube and boil a bunch of potatoes until soft. Drain but leave a little water. Stir in some sour cream, add salt and pepper to taste. Serve with fresh rye bread and butter.
Kind of a peasant vichyssoise, but still better than most of my Hungarian recipes that begin with: Steal a chicken...
or Cajun ones that begin with "First you make a roux............"
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 2:27:15am |
Three eyed, kung-fu, Buddhist elephant!
/I know about this much [] of their culture and music, but I find tabla fucking fascinating.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:28:13am |
re: #319 littleoldlady
Does it count that I stole it off the internet?
My family recipe for cold potato soup is...peel, cube and boil a bunch of potatoes until soft. Drain but leave a little water. Stir in some sour cream, add salt and pepper to taste. Serve with fresh rye bread and butter.
Kind of a peasant vichyssoise, but still better than most of my Hungarian recipes that begin with: Steal a chicken...
Oh, now that tastes just as good! ;)
*Snatch*
Your family recipe is a nice one for a quickie meal, the first one you posted is when there is time to do it.
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redc1c4 Mon, May 4, 2009 2:28:15am |
re: #320 little blessing
Same, so we'll share steak recipes next!
those are easy: you show the cow a picture of the fire on a flashcard, and then you start eating.
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:28:42am |
re: #310 gmsc
These days you can only get "American cheese product" at the local deli counters. I don't know why, but I live in fear of them changing it to "American cheese by-product".
/no wonder my dog likes it so much! ;-)
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 2:28:58am |
re: #319 littleoldlady
Potato soup in my family is with blended potatoes- no cubes or chunks.
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Pass The Moonbaticide Mon, May 4, 2009 2:29:04am |
Good Morning / Afternoon / Evening Everyone
Fruitcup is in my stomach.
I helped myself.
Particular Greetings to our Stalwart LittleOldLady
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:29:12am |
re: #320 little blessing
Same, so we'll share steak recipes next!
Stopped moving? Stopped mooing?
DINNER! ;)
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:29:30am |
re: #322 Slumbering Behemoth
Three eyed, kung-fu, Buddhist elephant!
/I know about this much [] of their culture and music, but I find tabla fucking fascinating.
"Homer, kindly do not offer my god a peanut! Please pay for your purchases and GET OUT! And come again!"
-Apu
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:30:09am |
re: #326 Sharmuta
Potato soup in my family is with blended potatoes- no cubes or chunks.
Gotta have the little chunkies, otherwise it ain't tater soup. ;)
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haakondahl Mon, May 4, 2009 2:30:25am |
re: #319 littleoldlady
Soviet-era Ukrainian Joke:
Using the glorious Soviet science of genetics, our leadership has developed a cross between a giraffe and a cow, which feeds in Ukraine and gives milk in Moscow.
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:30:29am |
re: #323 FurryOldGuyJeans
Try it with stringbeans. It's even better!
Then try saying the name: Intergeshlugenah Bundlach Soup.
We used to make it with a raw egg, but my mother watches the news every night. ;-)
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:30:50am |
re: #327 Pass The Moonbaticide
Good Morning / Afternoon / Evening Everyone
Fruitcup is in my stomach.
I helped myself.
Particular Greetings to our Stalwart LittleOldLady
'Morning, Moonbaticide!
(That doesn't sound quite right, but you get the idea.)
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Fenway_Nation Mon, May 4, 2009 2:31:11am |
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:31:19am |
re: #326 Sharmuta
No electricity in Podkarpatska Rus! ;-)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:31:36am |
re: #332 littleoldlady
Try it with stringbeans. It's even better!
Then try saying the name: Intergeshlugenah Bundlach Soup.
We used to make it with a raw egg, but my mother watches the news every night. ;-)
*mumblety-mumble* soup! See, wasn't that hard to say! ;)
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zulubaby Mon, May 4, 2009 2:31:56am |
What is the Karma count on our profiles? What does it relate to?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:32:21am |
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abolitionist Mon, May 4, 2009 2:33:00am |
re: #283 Sharmuta
Reposting.
PASHTO NICE SONG (LEKA DE GUL PESHAN AZGHO KE OSEM)AIMAN UDASS
zama da meene na toba da (ayman udas)
Ayman Udas [Shamim] - A BIOGRAPHICAL NOTE
Ayman Udas [Shamim] - The sweet voice that was silenced with bullets in Peshawar on April 27, 2009:
The pashto singer and poetess, Ayman Udas whose real name was Shamim, was shot dead inside her flat on the Dilazak Road, Peshawar on Monday, April 27, 2009. The news of the murder of Shamim shocked the artists community as well as thousands of her fans. She was killed at the peak of her career. In her early 30s, she was divorced and had got married for the second time last month. GOD BLESS AYMAN SOUL.
Usman, the widower of the singer and lyricist, told the Paharipura police that Aymans brothers were against her second marriage as well as her singing. On monday, Alamgir and Ismail, brothers of Ayman, allegedly shot her dead after she left her flat to fetch milk.
The police lodged an FIR in the case and raided several spots to arrest the killers. Immediately after the killing of Ayman, it was largely suspected that militants might have killed her because several male and female singers, as well as drama artists, had received threats from certain militant groups. However, her husband later clarified that she was killed by her own brothers for breaking the family traditions by marrying for the second time.
Source: Javed Aziz Khan, THE NEWS, Wednesday, April 29, 2009.
tora em dey rangha.... Something about the audience tells me this was recent.
Singer, dancer, actress too. Skip to 7:00. It's eerie. I think Van Gogh was over the target.
RIP, Shamim.
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haakondahl Mon, May 4, 2009 2:33:01am |
re: #329 gmsc
"Homer, kindly do not offer my god a peanut! Please pay for your purchases and GET OUT! And come again!"
-Apu
" 'Ganesh' has been subdued."
-- Apu's mother indicating Homer, up a tree, wearing an elephant mask.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:33:10am |
re: #325 littleoldlady
These days you can only get "American cheese product" at the local deli counters. I don't know why, but I live in fear of them changing it to "American cheese by-product".
/no wonder my dog likes it so much! ;-)
Only cheese by-product will be available shortly, as studies by prominent Democrat supporters show that we're about to reach peak cheese. First, producing cheese within US borders will be made illegal . . .
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:33:50am |
re: #339 FurryOldGuyJeans
Cheese whiz at least has cheeseteaks to give it some purpose in life!
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Fenway_Nation Mon, May 4, 2009 2:34:21am |
re: #337 zulubaby
Has to do with who gave that particular comment an upding+ or downding-.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 2:34:35am |
re: #330 FurryOldGuyJeans
Gotta have the little chunkies, otherwise it ain't tater soup. ;)
Tell that to my dad. I love him, but I can do without potato soup.
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Pass The Moonbaticide Mon, May 4, 2009 2:34:42am |
re: #333 gmsc
... and Good Morning to you.
I needed to go on Mozilla Firefox this morning, and what do I see on their home page but two fluff pieces about how much in love the Obamas are, and about Michelle's stylish shoes.
GAH ! what happened to real news ?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:34:52am |
re: #332 littleoldlady
Try it with stringbeans. It's even better!
Then try saying the name: Intergeshlugenah Bundlach Soup.
We used to make it with a raw egg, but my mother watches the news every night. ;-)
I usually try a recipe once with no deviations, each new batch afters is when I begin the Frankenstein experimentation. Each new try never tastes the same as what went on before.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:34:54am |
re: #337 zulubaby
What is the Karma count on our profiles? What does it relate to?
See the plus and minus buttons by each post? If you like someone's post, you click on the plus, and that adds 1 Karma point. If you dislike it, click the minus, and that subtracts a Karma point.
Your Karma is the total of all the updings and downdings you've received.
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haakondahl Mon, May 4, 2009 2:35:01am |
re: #343 gmsc
Only cheese by-product will be available shortly, as studies by prominent Democrat supporters show that we're about to reach peak cheese. First, producing cheese within US borders will be made illegal . . .
We're going to hear about this from the Cheese-Pickers' Union.
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Pass The Moonbaticide Mon, May 4, 2009 2:36:13am |
re: #337 zulubaby
I believe it's the net sum of updings less downdings on all comments placed by that Lizard.
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BatGuano Mon, May 4, 2009 2:37:24am |
This is the cheese shop sketch from Monty Python. It DOES NOT mention Velveeta.
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abolitionist Mon, May 4, 2009 2:37:55am |
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:38:09am |
re: #347 Pass The Moonbaticide
... and Good Morning to you.I needed to go on Mozilla Firefox this morning, and what do I see on their home page but two fluff pieces about how much in love the Obamas are, and about Michelle's stylish shoes.
GAH ! what happened to real news ?
The same thing that happened to real news reporters and unbiased newspapers.
Actually, today's newspapers are handy. You can read them and safely assume the opposite is true.
For example, the big story is about how much in love the 0bama's are? OK, it's safe to assume they're having tremendous fights. Where you want to go from there depends on your interest in the issue.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:40:06am |
re: #353 abolitionist
Slavery. It's advocates are many.
We keep trying, but the most widely practiced form of slavery, taxation, is on the rise right now.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:40:08am |
re: #343 gmsc
Only cheese by-product will be available shortly, as studies by prominent Democrat supporters show that we're about to reach peak cheese. First, producing cheese within US borders will be made illegal . . .
I can't seem to find the article I read online about it, but one of the laws the EU boneheads passed was to outlaw the selling in the EU of any location-named food from being made anywhere else in the world other than the region the food is named for. So in the EU you want Cheddar, it HAS to be made in Cheddar, England, no where else.
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Pass The Moonbaticide Mon, May 4, 2009 2:41:30am |
re: #352 BatGuano
"Is this a cheese shop ?"
"No , Sir "
"Well, that's that sketch knackered then, Isn't it !"
The Young Ones tribute to Monty Python's famous skit.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:41:33am |
re: #356 FurryOldGuyJeans
I can't seem to find the article I read online about it, but one of the laws the EU boneheads passed was to outlaw the selling in the EU of any location-named food from being made anywhere else in the world other than the region the food is named for. So in the EU you want Cheddar, it HAS to be made in Cheddar, England, no where else.
They're going to have a tough time when it comes to sandwiches, then.
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Pass The Moonbaticide Mon, May 4, 2009 2:45:10am |
re: #354 gmsc
Do I remember a few years ago that Tom Cruise and Demi Moore took out full-page advertisements in UK Newspapers to deny rumours about their marriage being in trouble ... ONE WEEK before they announced their divorce ?
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zulubaby Mon, May 4, 2009 2:45:14am |
re: #345 Fenway_Nation
Has to do with who gave that particular comment an upding+ or downding-.
Thanks!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:45:36am |
re: #358 gmsc
They're going to have a tough time when it comes to sandwiches, then.
Same article, different law: bones from slaughtered animals could not be sold locally, they had to be shipped to a different country and sold there.
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littleoldlady Mon, May 4, 2009 2:47:08am |
'Night, BatGuano. :-)
Okay, now I'm tired AND hungry. (The good news is, I haven't yet figured out how to eat in my sleep.)
Good day, ALL!™
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haakondahl Mon, May 4, 2009 2:48:20am |
re: #359 Sharmuta
What news from Afghanistan, haak? Any you can share?
In the next week, I'll work up some blog posts--just got blog registration completed. (Yay!)
Meanwhile, nothing changing with any speed. Keep working, keep working.
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Macker Mon, May 4, 2009 2:49:21am |
re: #358 gmsc
They're going to have a tough time when it comes to sandwiches, then.
Or Swiss, or Havarti, or Blew Bleu for that matter.
/back to bed. Argh!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:51:38am |
re: #368 Macker
Or Swiss, or Havarti, or
BlewBleu for that matter./back to bed. Argh!
Don't forget champagne.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:51:40am |
re: #356 FurryOldGuyJeans
I can't seem to find the article I read online about it, but one of the laws the EU boneheads passed was to outlaw the selling in the EU of any location-named food from being made anywhere else in the world other than the region the food is named for. So in the EU you want Cheddar, it HAS to be made in Cheddar, England, no where else.
So, London Broil steaks have to be broiled in London?
What about . . .
Frankfurters
Hamburgers
Wienerschnitzel
Berliner
Buffalo Wings
Pilsner
Philly cheesesteak
A Manhattan
Beef Wellington
Brussel Sprouts
Peking Duck
Yorkshire Pudding
Long Island Iced Tea
Kentucky Fried Chicken
New York Strip Steak
Swiss Cheese
Salsibury steak
Belgian Waffles
French Toast
French Fries
Brazil Nuts
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 2:52:54am |
re: #367 haakondahl
You just keep staying safe. Look forward to the blog!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:53:57am |
re: #370 gmsc
Basically, the way the law was worded, yeah. Gotta love the boneheads in Brussels that come up with stuff like that.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 2:54:26am |
re: #355 gmsc
Human slave trafficking is also alive and well.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, May 4, 2009 2:56:22am |
I'm pounded flat, G'nite, Lizards. More tabla, for them what like it. Later.
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:56:37am |
re: #366 littleoldlady
'Night, BatGuano. :-)
Okay, now I'm tired AND hungry. (The good news is, I haven't yet figured out how to eat in my sleep.)
Good day, ALL!™
If you want to eat in your sleep, take some lessons from an expert!
G'Nite, littleoldlady!
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haakondahl Mon, May 4, 2009 2:57:14am |
re: #353 abolitionist
re: #307 haakondahlWhat shall we abolish?
Slavery. It's advocates are many.
While what you say is true, in the first six months you were here, "slavery" appears in 395 comments. Your nic is not in any of them.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:57:22am |
re: #374 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm pounded flat, G'nite, Lizards. More tabla, for them what like it. Later.
Time to dredge you in flour and toss you in a skillet then. ;)
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gmsc Mon, May 4, 2009 2:58:28am |
re: #374 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm pounded flat, G'nite, Lizards. More tabla, for them what like it. Later.
Good night, SB!
I'm out, as well. Good night, all!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 3:08:26am |
Velveeta is just cheese through better chemistry.
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abolitionist Mon, May 4, 2009 3:13:13am |
re: #376 haakondahl
While what you say is true, in the first six months you were here, "slavery" appears in 395 comments. Your nic is not in any of them.
I find that hard to believe.
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BlueCanuck Mon, May 4, 2009 3:13:48am |
Morning all just sneaking in before I have to get ready for work. Scanned through some of the stuff here. When it comes to products like Velveeta a friend of mine passed on this advice. If it has the words processed, product, or food in the description it probably isn't good for you. :)
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Erik The Red Mon, May 4, 2009 3:14:11am |
re: #381 FurryOldGuyJeans
Velveeta is just
cheeseCRAP through better chemistry.
Good morning Lizards.
VELVEETA IS NOT CHEESE.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 3:19:58am |
re: #347 Pass The Moonbaticide
... and Good Morning to you.I needed to go on Mozilla Firefox this morning, and what do I see on their home page but two fluff pieces about how much in love the Obamas are, and about Michelle's stylish shoes.
GAH ! what happened to real news ?
0bama has those two creepy looking twins from Good Morning Vietnam censoring all news.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 3:20:38am |
re: #383 BlueCanuck
Morning all just sneaking in before I have to get ready for work. Scanned through some of the stuff here. When it comes to products like Velveeta a friend of mine passed on this advice. If it has the words processed, product, or food in the description it probably isn't good for you. :)
You mean processed cat food by-product is not good? Well, dang!
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haakondahl Mon, May 4, 2009 3:21:29am |
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Erik The Red Mon, May 4, 2009 3:21:54am |
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 3:24:59am |
re: #386 FurryOldGuyJeans
You mean processed cat food by-product is not good? Well, dang!
Other than Kopi Luwak, what other by product would be good food?
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zulubaby Mon, May 4, 2009 3:26:24am |
re: #109 Gus 802
Speaking of which. I just found a bunch of posts at a certain site that's going to get a report to the FBI from me either now or in the morning.
Sounds intriguing ... tell us more, please.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 3:29:24am |
Get ready for a nose dive from the market today, 0 and Geithner are going to unveil their plan to tax overseas operations today.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
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zulubaby Mon, May 4, 2009 3:32:27am |
Sharmuta, I read those links you posted about the serial killer. Too awful and frightening for words.
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Erik The Red Mon, May 4, 2009 3:32:27am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 3:32:36am |
re: #393 soxfan4life
Get ready for a nose dive from the market today, 0 and Geithner are going to unveil their plan to tax overseas operations today.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
So they are going after the tax cheats, oh my the irony.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 3:38:33am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 3:42:14am |
re: #393 soxfan4life
A guy stole 6 bases on you guys yesterday (IIRC). 6 bases.
Been done, something like five times ever....
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 3:42:53am |
re: #394 zulubaby
Sharmuta, I read those links you posted about the serial killer. Too awful and frightening for words.
It really is. I hope the college communities in the upper midwest let their students know they shouldn't be walking home alone from parties and bars. This is getting too common for it to be accidents.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 3:44:57am |
I'd like to see them do something about the tax cheats.
The tax rate can not be low enough for dishonest people not to want to cheat on taxes, so, go get 'em.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 3:45:57am |
re: #403 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'd like to see them do something about the tax cheats.
The tax rate can not be low enough for dishonest people not to want to cheat on taxes, so, go get 'em.
They could start with former and current members of Congress.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 3:47:36am |
Was a short article...so I copied the whole thing. Really cool.
SEOUL, South Korea – A South Korean navy warship has rescued a North Korean freighter by driving away a pirate ship chasing it off Somalia.
South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said Monday the 4,500-ton-class South Korean warship sent a Lynx helicopter to assist the North Korean vessel after receiving a distress call earlier Monday that it was being chased by the pirate ship.
The statement said the pirate ship gave up chasing the North Korean ship and sped away shortly after snipers aboard the helicopter prepared to fire warning shots at it.
It said the North Korean ship later sent a thank you message to the South Korean ship.
Relations between the two Koreas have badly frayed since a conservative government in Seoul took power last year.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 3:52:00am |
re: #404 Sharmuta
Oh yeah. Of course, there are drug companies that have set up entire operations in the Bahamas (IIRC), a vast majority of their product is sold here...they pay no tax. There are hundreds of companies who do the same thing to avoid taxes that I pay, my company pays.
Companies have their corporate offices in Delaware (with no employees) to escape state taxes...
All that stuff should stop.
Taxes, yes, are too high. But, I don't mind if they put the hammer down on the cheats.
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yochanan Mon, May 4, 2009 3:54:03am |
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 3:56:16am |
re: #394 zulubaby
Thank you for reading it- I will have to link it a few more times I think so other Lizards know to protect their young men.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 3:56:43am |
re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Here's a (fairly long) article talking about this...
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abolitionist Mon, May 4, 2009 3:57:08am |
re: #388 haakondahl
So do I. So you see, we may have a trust issue.
FYI, I mentioned slavery on Feb 25, 2005 in a comment on the movie 300, less than a month after registering.
Isn't the LGF search tool limited to 1-month intervals? You're aware that "hits" are truncated, no? Or did you use google?
If you say we may have a trust issue, then perhaps we do.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 3:57:36am |
re: #410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Here's a (fairly long) article talking about this...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 3:59:31am |
re: #392 goddessoftheclassroom
When does school end, goddess?
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abolitionist Mon, May 4, 2009 4:00:25am |
re: #411 abolitionist
Correction. 300 Spartans. 300 wasn't out yet.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, May 4, 2009 4:07:39am |
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3 wood Mon, May 4, 2009 4:19:18am |
Look for the market to open on the upside just cause the is a growing sense that the worst is over, it has to get better, and all the cash is getting tired of just sitting there and getting no yield.
All that having been said, keep a wary eye on Obama's attempts to transfer investor wealth from the primary investors to the labor unions. If that keeps up, you can kiss the capital markets goodbye.
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MJ Mon, May 4, 2009 4:19:54am |
N.Y. Times to File Notice It Will Close Boston Globe
The New York Times Co. said last night that it is notifying federal authorities of its plans to shut down the Boston Globe, raising the possibility that New England's most storied newspaper could cease to exist within weeks.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Good riddance.
Next up, the Times itself.
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razorbacker Mon, May 4, 2009 4:20:53am |
re: #384 Erik The Red
Good morning Lizards.
VELVEETA IS NOT CHEESE.
There was a time, before food stamps, WIC, and all the rest, when poor folks in America relied on 'government commodities'. Which consisted, as far as I could tell, of peanut butter and cheese.
Not cheese spread, not processed cheese food, but real honest-to-God-made-with-milk cheese. A revelation, to those who couldn't afford the real thing.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 4:24:56am |
re: #418 razorbacker
The. Best. Grilled. Cheese. Sandwich. Cheese. Ever!
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MandyManners Mon, May 4, 2009 4:31:52am |
I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
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3 wood Mon, May 4, 2009 4:32:38am |
More moonbats likely headed for the unemployment line:
Boston Globe's Management Threatens Shutdown
BOSTON — The management of The Boston Globe threatened late Sunday to begin the process of shutting down the newspaper in a dispute with its unions over $20 million in cuts.The Globe's owner, The New York Times Co., said it had given the Globe's biggest union a copy of a notice it was prepared to file Monday if it was unable to agree on the concessions by midnight Sunday, a deadline that passed without word from the union or the Times Co. The 60-day shutdown notice is required under federal law.
The newspaper's largest union, the Boston Newspaper Guild, called the move a "bullying" tactic by the Times Co.
The Times Co. last month threatened to close the Globe unless its unions agreed to $20 million in cuts, including half from the Newspaper Guild.
Notice how the moonbats start turning on each other when it gets down to money issues.
If they want to see "bullying tactics" they should look not farther than the White House and what Obama has been trying to do to the securitized investors of Chrysler.
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jim in virginia Mon, May 4, 2009 4:34:37am |
Good morning all!
It is supposed to rain all week here. If April showers bring May flowers, (and May flowers bring Pilgrims), what do May showers bring?
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3 wood Mon, May 4, 2009 4:35:25am |
re: #417 MJ
Good riddance.
Next up, the Times itself.
Agreed.
In the meantime, the White House press fawns over the Obama's going out for a date.
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razorbacker Mon, May 4, 2009 4:36:33am |
re: #422 3 wood
I am going to pass by your question regarding Chyrsler's bondholders (damn shame and frankly as damaging to capitalism as anything yet done) to ask what now happens to all those now-unemployeed journalists?
They're in it, to hear them tell it, 'to make a difference', so I expect that they're still going about their jobs. Just not publishing the papers. I'll bet that they've got some stories to tell.
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Pupdawg Mon, May 4, 2009 4:37:28am |
Why try to please everyone when most times I can't even please myself? To add tender to the match my better two-thirds says, 'you don't know what you think until I tell you.'
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 4:37:28am |
re: #424 jim in virginia
Good morning all!
It is supposed to rain all week here. If April showers bring May flowers, (and May flowers bring Pilgrims), what do May showers bring?
A call to priceline to get a good deal on a vacation to the desert.
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3 wood Mon, May 4, 2009 4:39:20am |
Obama's people may not pay their taxes ontime, but he sure is cracking down on business:
Obama Wants to End Tax Rules That Save Companies $190 Billion
President Barack Obama will propose today to outlaw three offshore tax-avoidance techniques U.S. companies such as Caterpillar Inc. and Procter & Gamble Co. want to use to save $190 billion over the next decade and make it riskier for Americans to stash money in tax-haven banks.
Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner will target a strategy that allows U.S.-based multinational companies to effectively hide from the Internal Revenue Service the role their foreign subsidiaries play in shifting profits into low-tax jurisdictions such as the Cayman Islands, an administration official said.
The proposal, affecting tax rules known as “check the box,” would net $86.5 billion in revenue between 2011-2019 by overhauling regulations created in Democrat Bill Clinton’s administration and later written into law by a Republican- controlled Congress after Clinton tried to withdraw the rules.
The proposal, combined with a $60.1 billion plan to limit many expense deductions for American companies that take advantage of laws allowing them to defer tax on foreign profits and a $43 billion crackdown on abusive foreign tax credits, would be the biggest tax increase on U.S. corporations since 1986.
Obama also would shift the burden of proof to individuals when the IRS alleges assets are being hidden in certain offshore bank accounts, the official said.
The War on Capital continues.
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3 wood Mon, May 4, 2009 4:41:50am |
re: #426 razorbacker
now happens to all those now-unemployeed journalists?They're in it, to hear them tell it, 'to make a difference', so I expect that they're still going about their jobs. Just not publishing the papers. I'll bet that they've got some stories to tell.
You know they will not lift a finger unless they are getting paid for it. You ever been around reporters? About the laziest group I've ever seen.
They will be looking to find some honest work, I suppose. Given their nature, I don't know if that is possible.
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Pupdawg Mon, May 4, 2009 4:42:15am |
re: #424 jim in virginia
Good morning all!
It is supposed to rain all week here. If April showers bring May flowers, (and May flowers bring Pilgrims), what do May showers bring?
June brides up north, shotgun weddings down south and new babies arriving just in time for March Madness or the next wave of April showers.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, May 4, 2009 4:43:19am |
re: #421 MandyManners
But it's all right now, I learned my lesson well.
You see, ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself.
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MandyManners Mon, May 4, 2009 4:47:37am |
It's not just editorial staff that'll lose their jobs in Boston. Folks who work in advertising--display and classified; sports; production and marketing: they will also lose their jobs.
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razorbacker Mon, May 4, 2009 4:53:39am |
Lord help me, I've always imagined a coroners convention as being kinda like this, right here.
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Pupdawg Mon, May 4, 2009 4:53:42am |
re: #429 3 wood
Obama's people may not pay their taxes ontime, but he sure is cracking down on business:
Obama Wants to End Tax Rules That Save Companies $190 Billion
The War on Capital continues.
I believe he has fellow politicians like Ted Kennedy in DC doing the same thing as the mentioned businesses...it strikes me as funny how capitalism is always evil to socialists like Obama when someone else is making the money while their monetary pillaging and plundering is good for the collective...I must suppose that redistribution of wealth is a great thing when you are always on the receiving end of the money shuffle.
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razorbacker Mon, May 4, 2009 4:55:27am |
See y'all later. Not raining for the first time in three days.
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opnion Mon, May 4, 2009 5:05:25am |
Good morning. BHO says that Wall Street will play a diminished roll in our economy. Hmmm
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 5:07:32am |
re: #424 jim in virginia
Good morning all!
It is supposed to rain all week here. If April showers bring May flowers, (and May flowers bring Pilgrims), what do May showers bring?
Flooding. Panic. Suicide. Disillusionment. Mosquitoes. Malaria.
Good Morning to you!
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Erik The Red Mon, May 4, 2009 5:07:54am |
Great post in the WSJ by Jim DeMint.
How Republicans Can Build a Big-Tent Party
To win back the trust of the American people, we must be a "big tent" party. But big tents need strong poles, and the strongest pole of our party -- the organizing principle and the crucial alternative to the Democrats -- must be freedom. The federal government is too big, takes too much of our money, and makes too many of our decisions. If Republicans can't agree on that, elections are the least of our problems.
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Pupdawg Mon, May 4, 2009 5:10:36am |
re: #435 MandyManners
It's not just editorial staff that'll lose their jobs in Boston. Folks who work in advertising--display and classified; sports; production and marketing: they will also lose their jobs.
The liberal-leaning, biased newspapers will be bailed-out, too. There are far too many union jobs, aka, Democrat votes at risk in the newspaper industry to protect by this administration. I'm shocked that the nation's largest Union, the teachers aren't chirping for bailout money, yet. It'll take a little more time for the state and local budgets to suffer from lost tax revenues before we hear from the Teachers' Union, maybe. I'd expect property and school taxes to increase like never before all across America. Somebody will pay for this shortfall and most of us will never see any stimulus relief. We be the payers not the players in this epic tragedy. The player is in the White House and the Unions are a large part of his band. The band will play on and we will pay on.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 5:10:50am |
re: #401 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A guy stole 6 bases on you guys yesterday (IIRC). 6 bases.
Been done, something like five times ever....
Tampa seems to have the Sox number for sure.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 5:12:57am |
re: #444 soxfan4life
Oh, I'm not a big baseball guy, but, dayam. 6 bases?
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opnion Mon, May 4, 2009 5:14:09am |
re: #442 Erik The Red
Great post in the WSJ by Jim DeMint.
How Republicans Can Build a Big-Tent Party
To win back the trust of the American people, we must be a "big tent" party. But big tents need strong poles, and the strongest pole of our party -- the organizing principle and the crucial alternative to the Democrats -- must be freedom. The federal government is too big, takes too much of our money, and makes too many of our decisions. If Republicans can't agree on that, elections are the least of our problems.
The Republicans need to offer a clear alternative, but I think that they should resist McCains effort to be some kind of reformer for the Party.
After his poor campaign I wouldn't get overly interested in his ideas.
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Mithrax Mon, May 4, 2009 5:14:46am |
re: #444 soxfan4life
If the season keeps going the way it has, should be a hell of a race in the east.
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Mithrax Mon, May 4, 2009 5:15:02am |
re: #447 starbroker
Morning all I am new here greetings to all!
Good morning and welcome. Did you bring coffee?
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Mithrax Mon, May 4, 2009 5:16:02am |
re: #451 starbroker
Bless you. Thats what I need to kick start the day off.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 5:16:07am |
re: #435 MandyManners
Same thing applies at the NYTimes. I am sad when anyone loses a job.
Happened to me a few years ago, I would not wish that feeling upon anybody.
Hell, while you are being waterboarded, at least you feel like you matter.
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starbroker Mon, May 4, 2009 5:18:34am |
Thanks for all the kind greetings, still coming to grips with the functions on here. How do I reply? click against the entry?
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BlueCanuck Mon, May 4, 2009 5:18:57am |
Well, officially, good morning all. What's up with an early morning registration?
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opnion Mon, May 4, 2009 5:19:22am |
re: #453 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Same thing applies at the NYTimes. I am sad when anyone loses a job.
Happened to me a few years ago, I would not wish that feeling upon anybody.
Hell, while you are being waterboarded, at least you feel like you matter.
Being waterboarded you do matter, you are the center of attention.
You can say, "Wait, I'll tell you what you want to know." All eyes on you. "Then you can say, "Hey I forgot." Then they get more interested.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 5:19:56am |
re: #455 starbroker
Click reply to reply. If you want the comment appear with your response click quote. It'll all come to you soon enough.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 5:19:58am |
re: #445 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, I'm not a big baseball guy, but, dayam. 6 bases?
With the speed Carl Crawford has ,once he gets the pitchers rythm and having a catcher that doesn't have a cannon arm he could steal 6 easily if he got on base enough. The 4 for 4 at the plate was tougher for him than 6 steals.
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BlueCanuck Mon, May 4, 2009 5:20:59am |
re: #455 starbroker
To the right of the nickname there are two links reply and quote. Reply just gives the nick and comment number. Quoting will copy the whole comment into the comment box.
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 5:24:25am |
I enjoyed watching Bill Whittle take jon stewart to school in that thread earlier.
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Erik The Red Mon, May 4, 2009 5:26:04am |
re: #456 BlueCanuck
Well, officially, good morning all. What's up with an early morning registration?
Hey Blue. I think it has been open the whole night. Maybe Charles forgot to close it before he crashed. Or maybe he decided that we needed some new toys.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 5:26:38am |
re: #462 rightside
Oh gosh, I loved that. You know what else. I learned a bunch about it I did not know. That was cool too. Learning is fun!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 5:27:52am |
re: #457 opnion
Exactly. Losing your job? You don't matter a whit! (at least that's how you feel.)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 5:28:18am |
re: #462 rightside
Wonder if Stewie'd have Bill on his show.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 5:28:36am |
re: #465 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Is that how you spell whit?
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 5:29:02am |
re: #464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I did as well. I wonder what the tipping point was for hirohito to finally throw in the towel. After 2 had already been used, they appeared to fight to the final person.
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 5:29:54am |
re: #466 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That would be like olberdouche having BOR on his show LOL, ain't gonna happen!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 5:31:50am |
re: #469 rightside
Oh it's covered. Really long video.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 5:32:01am |
re: #469 rightside
I did as well. I wonder what the tipping point was for hirohito to finally throw in the towel. After 2 had already been used, they appeared to fight to the final person.
You would have thought the fire bombing campaign would have forced surrender without the atom bomb.
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 5:32:29am |
re: #471 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I watched it all, but must have missed the final straw, what was it?
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 5:36:13am |
re: #472 soxfan4life
We were going for complete demoralization of their citizens. Difficult against those set to fight to the death.
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opnion Mon, May 4, 2009 5:36:49am |
re: #472 soxfan4life
You would have thought the fire bombing campaign would have forced surrender without the atom bomb.
I think a lot of it had to do with the "Divinity" of the Emperor.
They thought that they couldn't lose & even the first bomb didn't convince them.
That is why Macarthur forced the Emperor to renounce his divinity, so that they didn't try again.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 5:37:29am |
re: #474 rightside
We were going for complete demoralization of their citizens. Difficult against those set to fight to the death.
If we had the ability to travel through time we could give them Emporer 0bama, that would give us complete demoralization.
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KipAllen Mon, May 4, 2009 5:40:57am |
With all the truly serious problems facing the country, I don't understand why LGF spends so much time on creationism.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 5:41:14am |
re: #477 rightside
Can I throw in greasy joe with him?
He's still locked away in his flu-protected closet.
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 5:43:51am |
re: #479 soxfan4life
I can see him wearing a diving helmet in his office LOL
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SixDegrees Mon, May 4, 2009 5:44:40am |
re: #478 KipAllen
With all the truly serious problems facing the country, I don't understand why LGF spends so much time on creationism.
Because creationism has percolated throughout the GOP, and is preventing any effective opposition to the Democrat majority. As long as the GOP is perceived as a bunch of knuckle-dragging theocrats bent on imposing fundamentalist Christian values on the nation in the same manner as the Taliban, the Dems will prevail.
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ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 5:44:50am |
re: #478 KipAllen
I can understand your question. The reason why creationism is such a big deal is because it determines the future of the Republican party. This may sound like hyperbole, but it means the difference between theocracy and republic. Another reason is because creationism is insidious. There are too many politicians at the state and federal level who are trying to slip this into schools.
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FrogMarch Mon, May 4, 2009 5:49:18am |
The victim-haters insists that you love them.... or else they will demean you and call you nasty things.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 5:53:07am |
re: #483 FrogMarch
The nastiest name Olberman could call me would be my friend.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 5:58:18am |
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 5:59:40am |
re: #483 FrogMarch
I love how she has the exact same beliefs as FCBBHO, but why won't the media call him a POS?
/I will.
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 6:02:41am |
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day? I'm off work so I'm happy..
Weeeeeee!
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 6:03:50am |
re: #488 rightside
I love how she has the exact same beliefs as FCBBHO, but why won't the media call him a POS?/I will.
He won't let them. The commie bastard has complete control over them.
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 6:04:00am |
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Erik The Red Mon, May 4, 2009 6:05:29am |
re: #489 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day? I'm off work so I'm happy..
Weeeeeee!
Morning 2H :) Have a great Monday.
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 6:06:16am |
re: #492 HoosierHoops
Raining for the 3rd straight day. Cool though. Reminds me of standing out on the bridgewing during a squall.
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ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 6:07:02am |
This is my first official day in my new position. It's a lot of responsibility, but at least I don't have to take phone calls!
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:11:13am |
Oh great, O is going to announce part of his new tax policy today. Get this - corporations are going to be guilty until they prove innocence
"Under Obama's proposal, Americans would have to prove they were not breaking U.S. tax laws by sending money to banks that don't cooperate with tax officials. It essentially would reverse the long-held assumption of innocence in U.S. courts."
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
Did turn say good morning?
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:13:04am |
re: #495 momcat
Good morning young lizard. A cat lover I see, ha you have a lot of company here. turns in the dog lover camp, black lab to be specific.
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ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 6:13:14am |
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 6:13:24am |
re: #494 rightside
Raining for the 3rd straight day. Cool though. Reminds me of standing out on the bridgewing during a squall.
It's sunny here today..Sitting on the deck sipping coffee and watching little Winston playing in the grass...
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:17:33am |
re: #504 momcat
Same here, always had animals. I've been without a cat for quite a few years now, don't really miss them too much and my three dogs are about all I need (and can handle!)
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 6:18:28am |
re: #506 turn
Same here, always had animals. I've been without a cat for quite a few years now, don't really miss them too much and my three dogs are about all I need (and can handle!)
My Brother has 2 black labs..Good dogs...
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Erik The Red Mon, May 4, 2009 6:19:23am |
I was looking for this to post the other day. Found it. For all Dads with young daughters.
RULES FOR DATING MY DAUGHTER
Rule One:
If you pull into my driveway and honk you’d better be delivering a package, because you’re sure not picking anything up.
Rule Two:
You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter’s body, I will remove them.
Rule Three:
I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their hips. Please don’t take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded about this issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door with your underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will not object. However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, infact come off during the course of you date with my daughter, I will take my electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.
Rule Four:
I’m sure you’ve been told that in today’s world, sex without utilizing a “Barrier method” of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate, when it comes to sex, I am the barrrier, and I will kill you.
Rule Five:
It is usually understood that in order for us to get to know each other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the only word I need from you on this subject is: “early”
Rule Six:
I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my daughter. Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make her cry, I will make you cry.
TBC.....
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Erik The Red Mon, May 4, 2009 6:20:12am |
Rule Seven:
As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear, and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting on her makeup, a process than can take longer than painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don’t you do something useful, like changing the oil in my car?
Rule Eight:
The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter: Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden tool. Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing, holding hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm enough to introduce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka - zipped up to her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be avoided; movies which features chain saws are okay. Hockey games are okay. Old folks homes are better.
Rule Nine:
Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding, middle-aged, dimwitted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind the house.
Rule Ten:
Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake the sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice paddy near Hanoi. When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in my head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveways you should exit the car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password, announce in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely and early, then return to your car - there is no need for you to come inside. The camoflaged face at the window is mine.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:22:04am |
re: #507 HoosierHoops
My Brother has 2 black labs..Good dogs...
Hey hoops, no work today huh? kewl. I'm taking a half day off, got some running around to do and I have to finish painting the cottage. yuck, I friggin hate painting. I was checking out the posts from over the weekend, that video on the financial crisis was very helpful.
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BlueCanuck Mon, May 4, 2009 6:23:33am |
re: #508 Erik The Red
I found a link for this a few months ago and sent it to a couple of my friends. One is the father of a daughter. He got a great chuckle out of it. Another friend was told if I ever had a daughter those would be the rules I followed.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:23:50am |
re: #508 Erik The Red
From what I've heard about having daughters, I'm very grateful to have only two sons.
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 6:25:20am |
re: #512 turn
Hey hoops, no work today huh? kewl. I'm taking a half day off, got some running around to do and I have to finish painting the cottage. yuck, I friggin hate painting. I was checking out the posts from over the weekend, that video on the financial crisis was very helpful.
I hate painting also..
Yup..I'm off today..I work for a Japanese company, today is a holiday for us.
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Mithrax Mon, May 4, 2009 6:25:33am |
re: #509 Erik The Red
Kinda makes me wish I had girls, because then I could do this stuff to their dates.
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Erik The Red Mon, May 4, 2009 6:25:40am |
I thinks this is my karma coming back to bite me. I was a naughty, horny little shit at 15-18 years old.
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 6:26:51am |
re: #517 Erik The Red
My daughter went on her very first official date Friday. I have had that printed out for years, and it immediately came to mind as he arrived. I was so tempted to read it to him, just for laughs...
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:26:54am |
re: #515 HoosierHoops
I hate painting also..
Yup..I'm off today..I work for a Japanese company, today is a holiday for us.
What't the Japanese holiday anyway?
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Iron Mike Mon, May 4, 2009 6:28:58am |
I can't wait for my daughter's dating phase. I am going to absolutely traumatize the first poor bastard that comes to the door. If my plans work, my daughter won't have any more dates until her sophomore year at college-----far away from me.
6'3", 275lbs and about a half bubble off plumb.
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 6:29:01am |
re: #520 turn
What't the Japanese holiday anyway?
It's founders day for our company..One of the largest in the world...440,000 employess are probably going to drink some Sake today and make a toast to our founder
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 6:30:39am |
re: #519 rightside
I think God was watching over unborn daughters when he gave me a son. I'm sure I would have traumatized her as well as anyone coming to the door to pick her up.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:30:59am |
re: #523 HoosierHoops
jeeze that's a big company. I should go do a one day trade in a Sake company or something.
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OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 6:32:20am |
re: #519 rightside
My daughter went on her very first official date Friday. I have had that printed out for years, and it immediately came to mind as he arrived. I was so tempted to read it to him, just for laughs...
We have four girls and a boy. The oldest girl is married, the next is living out of the house, one is just starting to date, and the baby is still too young for that nonsense.
For boyfriends, I have had great success with the following recipe:
* If I like him, I ignore him.
* If I do not like him, he is invited to dinner with the family, kiddy birthday parties, etc. etc.
* If I really don't like him, he is my new bestest buddy. We go shooting and spend lots of time together without the daughter.
I have had a decent success rate so far ...
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rightside Mon, May 4, 2009 6:33:10am |
re: #524 soxfan4life
Fortunately, I know his dad, he's a Master Chief in the Navy, and if his son did anything untoward, he'd have to deal with 2 sailors.
I completely trusted him. (besides, I showed him my arsenal)
BBL, off to CPR training!
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Mithrax Mon, May 4, 2009 6:33:16am |
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rw in san diego Mon, May 4, 2009 6:33:59am |
Good morning, all.
re: #511 rightside
LOL! According to CtP... to a dog you are family, to a cat you are staff.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:34:16am |
re: #526 OldLineTexan
That sounds like a pretty good strategy OLT, again I'm glad I don't have to worry about following it.
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opnion Mon, May 4, 2009 6:35:53am |
re: #519 rightside
My daughter went on her very first official date Friday. I have had that printed out for years, and it immediately came to mind as he arrived. I was so tempted to read it to him, just for laughs...
My daughters first date was as a sophmore to Homecoming.
I told her date that I was having Agent Orange induced flashbacks & hearing copter blades. I got his attention.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:36:13am |
re: #529 Mithrax
You sir, owe me a new keyboard :P
I'm glad I didn't forget the sarc tag, IM would probably squish turn ha
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OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 6:36:27am |
re: #531 turn
That sounds like a pretty good strategy OLT, again I'm glad I don't have to worry about following it.
I am very happy with my son-in-law. I am also hoping the #2 girl doesn't marry for ten more years, as her taste still runs to worthless. ;)
Daughter #3 is a top student and I am "helping" her preserve her focus on her studies. Luckily, she is much easier than #1 or #2.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:37:10am |
re: #530 rw in san diego
Good morning, all.
LOL! According to CtP... to a dog you are family, to a cat you are staff.
ya get any rain down there this weekend?
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ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 6:38:28am |
re: #534 OldLineTexan
3 daughters, OLT? You were definitely outnumbered, huh? My father-in-law has two daughters.
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 6:38:49am |
re: #525 turn
jeeze that's a big company. I should go do a one day trade in a Sake company or something.
We are really big..We make everything from power tools. Plasma TV's to water treatment plants...When Clinton layed off 15000 Nuclear workers I was despondent..Then I got a call from the Japanese..You wanna work for us? We pay you much money...Fuck'n A.. I Worked in Silly Cone Valley and we built a Factory in Indiana.. You wanna move to Indiana..We pay you much money..Fuck'n A! They love basketball there..
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 6:38:52am |
re: #534 OldLineTexan
I am very happy with my son-in-law. I am also hoping the #2 girl doesn't marry for ten more years, as her taste still runs to worthless. ;)
Daughter #3 is a top student and I am "helping" her preserve her focus on her studies. Luckily, she is much easier than #1 or #2.
Easier should not be used when talking about daughters.
/ white smoke
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rw in san diego Mon, May 4, 2009 6:39:08am |
re: #535 turn
Unfortunately, no. I love rain, so I live in the wrong part of the country. Or, could it be, I live in this part of the country so I love the rain (which I hardly ever see)?
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:39:43am |
re: #534 OldLineTexan
The turnwife loves her boys but deep down I think she would have been thrilled to have a little girl, turn not so much.
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OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 6:39:52am |
re: #537 ConservatismNow!
3 daughters, OLT? You were definitely outnumbered, huh? My father-in-law has two daughters.
FOUR. The youngest is still only twelve and therefore I am the only man in her life. ;)
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Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 6:40:43am |
re: #537 ConservatismNow!
Ha, pikers! I have 1 daughter & 3 step-daughters.
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OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 6:40:50am |
re: #539 soxfan4life
Easier should not be used when talking about daughters.
/ white smoke
Hahahahaha. These are Texas girls, remember.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:41:36am |
re: #538 HoosierHoops
Funk' A kewl hoops. I thought they liked baseball ....
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Iron Mike Mon, May 4, 2009 6:41:57am |
My father-in-law had 6 daughters and was on over the road trucker while I was dating his middle daughter.
How he slept at night, I'll never know.
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rw in san diego Mon, May 4, 2009 6:41:57am |
re: #541 turn
I have two sons and one daughter. I know how your wife feels. You know it is said that a son is your son til he finds a wife, but a daughter is your daughter all of her life. I'm finding out how true that is...and I have a wonderful daughter-in-law.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 6:42:16am |
re: #544 OldLineTexan
Hahahahaha. These are Texas girls, remember.
Ah yes Texas Girls. How are things in Texas? Hope to be moving back that way soon.
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rw in san diego Mon, May 4, 2009 6:43:31am |
Good morning, Irish Rose. How are you this morning and how's your Marine son? Is he still here in SD?
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 6:43:36am |
re: #545 turn
Funk' A kewl hoops. I thought they liked baseball ....
LOL
I meant these dang Hoosiers..They are nuts about Basketball here..
It's like heaven..Really enjoy it here..But I hate Snow...really need some global warming here
| 553 |
turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:43:49am |
re: #540 rw in san diego
It rained something fierce here in Sac over the weekend, just curious about down there because the company has a product out on the highway down there that is prone to problems when it rains.
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rw in san diego Mon, May 4, 2009 6:45:06am |
re: #553 turn
It was a little overcast at times, but no rain. The problem here when it rains are the drivers. Heh!
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ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 6:45:09am |
re: #546 Iron Mike
6 daughters may have been why he was an over-the-road trucker. He may have did that just to get some peace and quiet!
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:46:01am |
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:47:20am |
re: #547 rw in san diego
jeeze the FIL put turn through the friggin ringer when I started dating the turnwife. ex Marine DI. whoa
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 6:47:25am |
Good morning y'all - from a warm (27 degrees going up to 81 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte (althought the TV weather heads are still predicting horrible T-Storms and lightning!).
How is everyone today?
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ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 6:48:48am |
re: #558 turn
jeeze the FIL put turn through the friggin ringer when I started dating the turnwife. ex Marine DI. whoa
I never had that problem. My FIL was a Southern Baptist Minister at the time and he is the friendliest guy you will ever meet. I was a Marine at the time anyways.
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 6:48:49am |
re: #559 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (27 degrees going up to 81 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte (althought the TV weather heads are still predicting horrible T-Storms and lightning!).
How is everyone today?
Wonderful Real..I'm off work today...It's going be be beautiful today..
Should I open the pool or wait a week? I don't know!
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:49:15am |
re: #552 HoosierHoops
oh, duh. I don't follow sports much, won $40 on the Kentucky Derby though.
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yochanan Mon, May 4, 2009 6:49:17am |
re: #556 ConservatismNow!
7 possible cases of PMS. sure explains why he was a over the road trucker.
ducks, runs for cover.
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redstateredneck Mon, May 4, 2009 6:50:19am |
Morning, {all y'all}
Plenty of thunder-boomers last night in the Deep South.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:50:22am |
re: #556 ConservatismNow!
oh man, them girls can yack that's for sure.
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vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 6:50:25am |
re: #564 yochanan
7 possible cases of PMS. sure explains why he was a over the road trucker.
ducks, runs for cover.
Hey, if I could get away from my PMS, I would.
Morning, everyone. And so hell week begins here at work.
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ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 6:50:57am |
re: #564 yochanan
one of my uncles has 3 daughters too...he drives trucks too. Locally though. Aaaaand...only 1 of his daughters graduated high school. The other two are not old enough to drink yet and have 3 kids between them.
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rw in san diego Mon, May 4, 2009 6:51:30am |
re: #559 realwest
Good morning, realwest! How are you and your mother today? Hope there's some let up with the allergy symptoms. BTW, that's quite a range in temperature today in Charlotte!
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 6:52:08am |
re: #561 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops - Uh, if I were you, living where you do, I'd get out the beer cooler and practice with that and wait a week to set up the pool! LOL!
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KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 6:52:17am |
Good morning everyone. How 'bout that Kentucky Derby this weekend? Someone I know hit the superfecta and won $500,000+. Crazy. The sun is peeping out here and I finally get my new roof today. The insurance company finally ponied up. Yeah!
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:52:34am |
re: #559 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (27 degrees going up to 81 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte (althought the TV weather heads are still predicting horrible T-Storms and lightning!).
How is everyone today?
Morning real, hey I was thinking about you a bit this weekend walking the lab. I didn't know you were a teacher and lawyer until last Friday, that's pretty impressive.
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 6:53:07am |
re: #562 momcat
Soggy?! Uh, whereabouts are you? And good morning, soggy or not!
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 6:54:43am |
re: #565 redstateredneck
Good morning {red} - that's what they werepredicting we'd get here - supposed to start about 8 hours ago, but so far not even clouds! Did you have any tornados?
Those things really scare me - T-storms and heavy rain, not so much!
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JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 6:54:50am |
Morning Honcos.
Anyone else post Areleft Sphincters shark jumper performance?
Jack Kemp would be alive if the (R)s had listened to Sphincter.
*spit*
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:54:54am |
re: #560 ConservatismNow!
I really think he used the Marine Corps stategy of breaking me down and then building me back up. He was a good man and I miss him.
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Iron Mike Mon, May 4, 2009 6:55:29am |
re: #554 turn
Why do you think I'm over protective of my only daughter?
Personal experience, that's why.
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 6:55:59am |
re: #571 realwest
Hi ya Hoops - Uh, if I were you, living where you do, I'd get out the beer cooler and practice with that and wait a week to set up the pool! LOL!
Come on Summer! I wanna go swimming!
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redstateredneck Mon, May 4, 2009 6:56:06am |
re: #575 realwest
No tornados here. The weather siren went off right before church started. I figured church was a pretty safe place to be, just in case! Only severe thunderstorms, though.
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yochanan Mon, May 4, 2009 6:56:06am |
back in the old days i was talking to a friend of my family who has 3 girls and i was complaining how my 3 boys were hard on the dinning room chairs (you did not know they make great clubs and shields did you) her answer was well with 3 teenaged girls you could have 4 women with PMS under the same roof at the same time .
my response was YOU WIN.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:56:33am |
re: #567 vxbush
Hey, if I could get away from my PMS, I would.
Morning, everyone. And so hell week begins here at work.
Morning vx, this week is worse than most?
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 6:56:49am |
re: #569 rw in san diego
Hi there {rw}! Mom is feeling just sorta ok and I'm feeling worse than her(!) but we gotta go out today anyway.
Yeah well that's the PREDICTED temp range - remember this is from those airheads that said we'd have thunderstorms and lightning and all last night all through today! LOL!
Love the avatar, btw!
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 6:57:12am |
Obama's Iran policy is worrying more than just Israel:
Gates plans to reassure allies on Iran outreach
Defense Secretary Robert Gates, seeking to soothe Mideast allies worried about Tehran’s reach, said Sunday that efforts to bolster U.S. relations with Iran may still ultimately face what he called "a closed fist."Gates was flying to Egypt, the first stop on a Mideast tour that continues in Saudi Arabia. He said part of his mission will be to assure Saudis that any U.S. outreach to Iran aims to increase security throughout the region.
while we’re willing to reach out to the Iranians, as the president said, with an open hand, I think everybody in the administration, from the president on down, is pretty realistic and will be pretty tough-minded if we still encounter a closed fist."
So the continuing uranium enrichment, "death to Israel" chants, and rejection of Obama's outreach, isn't much of a closed fist? What are they waiting for? The first Iranian nuke?
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 6:57:44am |
re: #568 ConservatismNow!
did turn say he's happy he doesn't have any daughters? oh man, I'd hate to be in that position.
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Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 6:57:49am |
Pakistan Strife Raises U.S. Doubts on Nuclear Arms
WASHINGTON — As the insurgency of the Taliban and Al Qaeda spreads in Pakistan, senior American officials say they are increasingly concerned about new vulnerabilities for Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal, including the potential for militants to snatch a weapon in transport or to insert sympathizers into laboratories or fuel-production facilities.
But the United States does not know where all of Pakistan’s nuclear sites are located, and its concerns have intensified in the last two weeks since the Taliban entered Buner, a district 60 miles from the capital. The spread of the insurgency has left American officials less willing to accept blanket assurances from Pakistan that the weapons are safe.
Pakistani officials have continued to deflect American requests for more details about the location and security of the country’s nuclear sites, the officials said.
Amateur in the White House: check
World economic crisis: check
Swine flu pandemic: check
Al Qaeda obtains a nuclear arsenal: pending
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 6:59:03am |
re: #585 Kosh's Shadow
Obama's Iran policy is worrying more than just Israel:
Gates plans to reassure allies on Iran outreach
So the continuing uranium enrichment, "death to Israel" chants, and rejection of Obama's outreach, isn't much of a closed fist? What are they waiting for? The first Iranian nuke?
The first Iranian nuclear attack on Israel.
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rw in san diego Mon, May 4, 2009 6:59:26am |
re: #584 realwest
My avatar is a picture of our lab, Goldie and our son's boxer, Bella. They're both such a pleasure to have around, although we see Bella only when our son visits.
BBIAW. Some morning chores need doing.
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MandyManners Mon, May 4, 2009 6:59:26am |
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JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 6:59:44am |
re: #585 Kosh's Shadow
Obama's Iran policy is worrying more than just Israel:
Gates plans to reassure allies on Iran outreachSo the continuing uranium enrichment, "death to Israel" chants, and rejection of Obama's outreach, isn't much of a closed fist? What are they waiting for? The first Iranian nuke?
The Mad Mullah's are laughing their asses off in Qom, Obama looks in the mirror and wonders why they are charmed with him.
Meanwhile the centrifuges spin.
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:00:13am |
re: #573 turn
Morning real, hey I was thinking about you a bit this weekend walking the lab. I didn't know you were a teacher and lawyer until last Friday, that's pretty impressive.
Good morning turn! You were thinking of me while walking your dog?! LOL! Well I guess it beats reciting the alphabet or whatever.
And it's not that impressive - I was a lawyer specializing in Real Estate Law and then got hired and taught as an Adjunct Law Professor teaching Real Estate Law!
LOOOOONG HOURS but fun!
How are you today?
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 7:01:09am |
re: #587 Kenneth
Pakistan Strife Raises U.S. Doubts on Nuclear Arms
Amateur in the White House: check
World economic crisis: check
Swine flu pandemic: check
Al Qaeda obtains a nuclear arsenal: pending
Here's one quote from your article:
including the potential for militants to snatch a weapon in transport or to insert sympathizers into laboratories or fuel-production facilities
What makes anyone think the labs don't already have Taliban sympathizers?
Khan is close to being one himself.
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ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 7:01:10am |
re: #586 turn
did turn say he's happy he doesn't have any daughters? oh man, I'd hate to be in that position.
yeah...only 2 out of 7 kids gradutated high school and one of those is me. Not the best record for my family.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 7:01:32am |
re: #591 rw in san diego
I never peeked at your avatar, that's a cute picture. Your lab looks sad in that pic ....
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Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 7:01:41am |
re: #585 Kosh's Shadow
So the continuing uranium enrichment, "death to Israel" chants, and rejection of Obama's outreach, isn't much of a closed fist? What are they waiting for? The first Iranian nuke?
Newt Gingrich: Obama's policy on Iran is a 'fantasy'
They are systematically setting up the most decisive confrontation that we've ever seen...There's almost an eagerness to take on the Israeli government to make a point with the Arab world,"
He called US President Barack Obama's program of engagement on Iran a "fantasy," and his Middle East policies "very dangerous for Israel." He summed up Obama's approach as "the clearest adoption of weakness since Jimmy Carter."
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jcbunga Mon, May 4, 2009 7:02:21am |
While I hate to judge before all the facts are in, it appears the media has overstated this flu pandemic. What was the body count when New Orleans was being wiped off the face of the map? !0,000?
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vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 7:02:51am |
re: #583 turn
Morning vx, this week is worse than most?
Oh, yeah. We have to generate reports like crazy this week, and while most people are really understanding of that, we get a few who don't. And then there are a few reports that are simply just evil.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 7:02:59am |
re: #594 realwest
A lawyer and a teacher, you could be on 0bama's list for Supreme Court Justice.
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:04:14am |
re: #587 Kenneth Good morning Kenneth - didn't have time to read your link, but does it say that when Mushareef was President (before Bush lost his mind and stopped supporting him) that we knew where ALL of Paki's nukes were?
Now we don't.
Great, just effin' great!
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Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 7:04:22am |
re: #595 Kosh's Shadow
What makes anyone think the labs don't already have Taliban sympathizers?
Khan is close to being one himself.
True. We are also told the Pakistani military has full & safe control of the nuclear arsenal. OK, but who has full control of the military? The democratically elected pro-western government of Pakistan certainly does not have control of the military.
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jcbunga Mon, May 4, 2009 7:05:12am |
...and 150 points if you can complete the movie phrase "Although I hate to judge before all the facts are in..."
Good morning from rainy /chilly Northern VA.
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:05:18am |
re: #576 JCM
Jack Kemp would be alive if the (R)s had listened to Sphincter.
*spit*
And Christopher Reeve would have jumped up out of his wheelchair if Kerry had won in 2004. It's amazing how we idiots just ignore the miraculous healing power these people have.
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KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 7:05:45am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 7:05:48am |
re: #604 realwest
Good morning Kenneth - didn't have time to read your link, but does it say that when Mushareef was President (before Bush lost his mind and stopped supporting him) that we knew where ALL of Paki's nukes were?
Now we don't.
Great, just effin' great!
Since the US isn't going to do anything anyway, I'm not concerned we don't know where Pakistan's nukes are.
I hope India does.
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 7:05:51am |
re: #601 Kosh's Shadow
Please, Newt, run in 2012.
Don't you think the ex-wife thing and his Contract with America would give the media enough ammo against him. You know whoever runs in 2012 will not get the FCBBHO treatment from the media.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 7:05:53am |
re: #594 realwest
Yeah, all kind of stuff rolls around in the noggin when I'm on those walks. I reflect a lot about what I read here, you know I was actually thinking about how following this blog has done as much for my education as friggin high school did. I'm not kidding.
I'm doing fine, we got a lot of rain over the weekend in Sac which is a good thing.
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:06:26am |
re: #606 jcbunga
...and 150 points if you can complete the movie phrase "Although I hate to judge before all the facts are in..."
Good morning from rainy /chilly Northern VA.
"... frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."
/well, at least I tried
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JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 7:06:35am |
re: #599 jcbunga
While I hate to judge before all the facts are in, it appears the media has overstated this flu pandemic. What was the body count when New Orleans was being wiped off the face of the map? !0,000?
While it had the same transmission and infection factor, as the 1918 variety. The reason for the medicos caution, it's virulence with in the body was not nearly any where near that of the 1918 flu.
The media was in panic over drive where caution was in order.
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jcbunga Mon, May 4, 2009 7:06:56am |
re: #612 Occasional Reader
"... frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."
/well, at least I tried
That's good for 10 :)
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 7:07:12am |
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:07:14am |
re: #602 soxfan4life
Thanks soxfan4life - but I'm overqualified for Obama!
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KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 7:07:32am |
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 7:07:42am |
re: #612 Occasional Reader
"... frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."
/well, at least I tried
Good morning OR..Hope today finds you well
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:08:14am |
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jcbunga Mon, May 4, 2009 7:08:24am |
re: #613 JCM
While it had the same transmission and infection factor, as the 1918 variety. The reason for the medicos caution, it's virulence with in the body was not nearly any where near that of the 1918 flu.
The media was in panic over drive where caution was in order.
Yes, and I think I heard that the usual flus are doing much more damage and there's no coverage of that.
| 621 |
turn Mon, May 4, 2009 7:08:27am |
re: #601 Kosh's Shadow
turn dinged ya on that Kosh, turn loves Newt.
| 622 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:08:43am |
Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle
WASHINGTON - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was bashed for her pricey wardrobe, but now she's getting a lethal accessory.
The National Rifle Association Foundation will present Sen. John McCain's ill-fated running mate with a military-style assault weapon next week.
The all-white "Alaskan Hunter" - fashionable until Labor Day - is the civilian version of a modified M-4 rifle carried by U.S. troops overseas.
Alaska's feisty Republican governor, who is weighing a potential 2012 presidential bid, will receive the rifle made by Templar Consulting at a May 14 NRA banquet.
It's engraved with Palin's name and adorned with a map of the state on the collapsible stock - made legal after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004. The Big Dipper from the state flag is etched on the magazine well behind a vented barrel guard.
The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns, which can take down big game, and in war zones "can disable both motor vehicles and assailants with body armor," according to ammo manufacturer Alexander Arms' Web site.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 7:09:05am |
re: #610 soxfan4life
Don't you think the ex-wife thing and his Contract with America would give the media enough ammo against him. You know whoever runs in 2012 will not get the FCBBHO treatment from the media.
Anyone running against Obama will get attacked. The MSM was nothing but a very large campaign staff for the 0.
But by 2012 it might not be as big. Or the government might bail out newspapers, guaranteeing a captive press.
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turn Mon, May 4, 2009 7:09:37am |
re: #602 soxfan4life
A lawyer and a teacher, you could be on 0bama's list for Supreme Court Justice.
hell you could get on that list if ya could friggin chew bubble gum - spit
| 625 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 7:10:24am |
re: #622 NJDhockeyfan
Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle
The moose in Alaska are terrified now.
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:11:09am |
re: #606 jcbunga
...and 150 points if you can complete the movie phrase "Although I hate to judge before all the facts are in..."
Good morning from rainy /chilly Northern VA.
[second attempt]
"... you are one ugly motherf****r".
-Arnold Schwarzenegger, Predator
| 627 |
soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 7:11:22am |
| 628 |
turn Mon, May 4, 2009 7:12:33am |
re: #617 KenJen
Morning turn. Really $500,000 split between 4 guys.
What did they have to bet to get that payoff?
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Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 7:12:40am |
re: #604 realwest
I don't know if the US ever really knew where the nukes were. I have heard so many contradictory reports on the Pak nuclear arsenal, I don't know what to believe. Bush had no choice but to dump Musharraf. He was sitting on the fence in going after the Taliban & AQ, and he was intensely unpopular in Pakistan. The military is still calling the shots behind the scene. Last week, Obama announced a huge military aid package. Pakistani translation: it's the "bribe the military so they don't overthrow the gov't" aid package.
| 630 |
realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:12:59am |
re: #617 KenJen
Morning KenJen - do they have to pay income taxes on the winnings?
Do you OR ANYONE ELSE know if you have to pay income taxes on Powerball or state lottery winnings?!
| 631 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:13:33am |
re: #622 NJDhockeyfan
Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle
Two observations:
1) Much as I hate to say it, accepting this would not be a good political move on Sarah's part, if she has national political aspirations. It would make it all too easy for the left to paint her as a "crazed gun nut", etc. etc.
2) I want one.
| 632 |
alegrias Mon, May 4, 2009 7:13:50am |
Morning all. Any Alexandria, Virginians can vote tomorrow, Tuesday, to END one party donkey rule in our city council elections.
Please encourage anyone you know to add some GOP diversity to our hightax Democrats' cozy club of kleptocrats.
| 633 |
redstateredneck Mon, May 4, 2009 7:14:15am |
re: #630 realwest
Morning KenJen - do they have to pay income taxes on the winnings?
Do you OR ANYONE ELSE know if you have to pay income taxes on Powerball or state lottery winnings?!
I'd be amazed if you didn't.
| 634 |
Killian Bundy Mon, May 4, 2009 7:14:18am |
re: #630 realwest
Do you OR ANYONE ELSE know if you have to pay income taxes on Powerball or state lottery winnings?!
Of course you do.
/it's called income
| 635 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:14:43am |
re: #622 NJDhockeyfan
One more observation:
The rifle is chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf." It's the same caliber used by heavy machine guns
Journo cluelessness about firearms strikes again. Uh, no, that would be .50 BMG.
| 636 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:15:05am |
Now it's time for "Name that Asshat":
"The basic solution for most crime is economic- homes, health, education, employment, beauty. If the law is to be enforced- and rights fulfilled for the poor- we must end poverty. Until we do, there will be no equal protection of the laws. To permit conditions that breed antisocial conduct to continue is our greatest crime."
-?
| 637 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 7:15:55am |
re: #636 Sharmuta
Now it's time for "Name that Asshat":
"The basic solution for most crime is economic- homes, health, education, employment, beauty. If the law is to be enforced- and rights fulfilled for the poor- we must end poverty. Until we do, there will be no equal protection of the laws. To permit conditions that breed antisocial conduct to continue is our greatest crime."
-?
Obama?
Good Morning Sharm
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opnion Mon, May 4, 2009 7:16:03am |
re: #623 Kosh's Shadow
Anyone running against Obama will get attacked. The MSM was nothing but a very large campaign staff for the 0.
But by 2012 it might not be as big. Or the government might bail out newspapers, guaranteeing a captive press.
It's actually embarassing, SNL & the late night comedians are either not willing or afraid to make jokes about Obama. They will go after Biden & still fall back on Bush, but BHO is off limits.
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Irish Rose Mon, May 4, 2009 7:16:16am |
re: #557 turn
Morning Rose. Is your blog getting much traffic?
Not a lot of comments but quite a bit of traffic, actually, and from some fairly influential referrals... not too bad for a brand-spanking new blog. Support for Charles in the blogosphere is on the rise.
Of course the haters and the banned are hanging around the periphery 24/7, like the cockroaches that they are. I did enable anon posting, for those who don't have a blogger account... we'll see what interesting things develop.
Thanks for asking about my son, RW... he's still in San Diego and working every day, waiting for word of his next deployment and chomping at the bit to get back out there. We know that it's coming, just no idea when.
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:16:20am |
re: #622 NJDhockeyfan
Hey my friend - good morning - nice gift! But I'm thinking that an assault rifle chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf" might be a tad too much gun for Sarah. Hell it'd be too much gun for most of the guys out here.
Great gift though!
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:16:24am |
re: #636 Sharmuta
Now it's time for "Name that Asshat":
"The basic solution for most crime is economic- homes, health, education, employment, beauty. If the law is to be enforced- and rights fulfilled for the poor- we must end poverty. Until we do, there will be no equal protection of the laws. To permit conditions that breed antisocial conduct to continue is our greatest crime."
-?
Maricopa County, Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio?
KIDDING!
| 643 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:16:28am |
re: #637 HoosierHoops
Obama?
Good Morning Sharm
Good morning, Hoops! That's a good guess, but it's incorrect.
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ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 7:16:32am |
re: #636 Sharmuta
jeez sharm. Could you have made it anymore vague?
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soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 7:18:11am |
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:18:22am |
re: #630 realwest
Morning KenJen - do they have to pay income taxes on the winnings?
Do you OR ANYONE ELSE know if you have to pay income taxes on Powerball or state lottery winnings?!
Of course you do.
"All income, from whatever source derived"... those are the magic words from the U.S. Tax Code.
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MandyManners Mon, May 4, 2009 7:18:53am |
re: #636 Sharmuta
Now it's time for "Name that Asshat":
"The basic solution for most crime is economic- homes, health, education, employment, beauty. If the law is to be enforced- and rights fulfilled for the poor- we must end poverty. Until we do, there will be no equal protection of the laws. To permit conditions that breed antisocial conduct to continue is our greatest crime."
-?
"Beauty"? "BEAUTY"?
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JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 7:19:12am |
re: #620 jcbunga
Yes, and I think I heard that the usual flus are doing much more damage and there's no coverage of that.
Annually flus of all varieties take 30,000 in the US.
What rang the alarm bells was the H1N1 variety that this swine flu was. If there is going to be a world wide pandemic it will most likely be H1N1. This H1N1 lacked the virulence cause widespread fatalities.
| 649 |
tfc3rid Mon, May 4, 2009 7:19:31am |
re: #646 Occasional Reader
Of course you do.
"All income, from whatever source derived"... those are the magic words from the U.S. Tax Code.
You've clearly left out the addendum... '...unless nominated for governmental post...'
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:19:45am |
re: #629 Kenneth
Well word I had from reliable sources who must be unnamed is that the US special forces types helped Pakistan "hide" and especially provide security for the nukes and my Pakistani friends have told me that Mushareef was very popular with the Army, cause he didn't steal anywhere near as much money as Bhutto did in either of her first two tries!
My sources tell me we don't know where any but maybe two or three of their nukes are now.
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:19:56am |
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Altermite Mon, May 4, 2009 7:20:05am |
re: #638 opnion
I'm pretty sure I remember them doing some skits during the elections, though I'm not sure I can remember recent ones, apart from reruns of the older skits.
| 654 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:20:25am |
re: #651 Occasional Reader
Of course. Ickiness causes crime. Didn't you know that?
That's why mug shots are always so becoming.
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opnion Mon, May 4, 2009 7:20:56am |
re: #636 Sharmuta
Now it's time for "Name that Asshat":
"The basic solution for most crime is economic- homes, health, education, employment, beauty. If the law is to be enforced- and rights fulfilled for the poor- we must end poverty. Until we do, there will be no equal protection of the laws. To permit conditions that breed antisocial conduct to continue is our greatest crime."
-?
Obama?
| 657 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:21:24am |
re: #641 realwest
Hey my friend - good morning - nice gift! But I'm thinking that an assault rifle chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf" might be a tad too much gun for Sarah. Hell it'd be too much gun for most of the guys out here.
Great gift though!
Hi real. I wouldn't bet against her. She knows guns better than most guys I know.
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yochanan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:21:38am |
re: #622 NJDhockeyfan
MOOSE will fear her.
hopefully so will jackasses
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MandyManners Mon, May 4, 2009 7:21:42am |
re: #651 Occasional Reader
Of course. Ickiness causes crime. Didn't you know that?
So, ugly people commit crimes because they don't get enough purttiness in their lives?
| 661 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:22:00am |
Who was it, Sharmuta? (There are so many asshats out there who might have said it... it renders guessing rather pointless!)
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MandyManners Mon, May 4, 2009 7:22:30am |
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OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:22:41am |
re: #622 NJDhockeyfan
Sarah Palin honored by NRA with special Alaska-themed assault rifle
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH.
This is the media completing Josh Sugarmann's strategy.
A semi-automatic rifle is NOT an "Assault Rifle".
An Assault Rifle is an actual term (coined by the Nazi Germans) for a selective-fire weapon (i.e., a "machine gun" in old terms).
A semi-automatic rifle IS an "Assault WEAPON", which is a made-up scary word coined by Sugarmann et. al. for scary gunz.
This is the gun-banner's "wedge strategy" and it has worked in the gooey centers of the MSM's noggins.
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:22:45am |
re: #658 Sharmuta
Nope.
It's tricky, but you'll all go "AH!" when I tell you.
That was a clue!
ADOLF HITLER!
/
| 665 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:22:57am |
re: #661 Occasional Reader
Who was it, Sharmuta? (There are so many asshats out there who might have said it... it renders guessing rather pointless!)
It was Ramsey Clark.
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JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 7:23:05am |
re: #641 realwest
Hey my friend - good morning - nice gift! But I'm thinking that an assault rifle chambered in .50-caliber "Beowulf" might be a tad too much gun for Sarah. Hell it'd be too much gun for most of the guys out here.
Great gift though!
Come on Real!
Sarah could be changing the grandson's diaper with one hand, taking down a moose with the Beowulf with the other, and have the all the fixin's for the moose stew going. And still be able to debate The One!
;-P
Morin' Real.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:23:25am |
OK- next time we play "Name that Asshat", I'll try to make it easier.
| 668 |
OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:23:28am |
re: #635 Occasional Reader
One more observation:
Journo cluelessness about firearms strikes again. Uh, no, that would be .50 BMG.
I think it's starting to become purposeful lying. Since about 1991.
| 669 |
turn Mon, May 4, 2009 7:23:29am |
re: #658 Sharmuta
Nope.
It's tricky, but you'll all go "AH!" when I tell you.
well turn googled and yahooed it with no luck
| 670 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 7:23:54am |
re: #658 Sharmuta
Nope.
It's tricky, but you'll all go "AH!" when I tell you.
The idea that poverty causes crime has been around for a long time, so there are probably dozens of people who could have said that, including, for example, LBJ and his "war on poverty".
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opnion Mon, May 4, 2009 7:24:19am |
re: #653 Altermite
I'm pretty sure I remember them doing some skits during the elections, though I'm not sure I can remember recent ones, apart from reruns of the older skits.
SNL did one skit that skewered the MSM for fawning over BHO.
Tina Fey came back to write it & she was supporting Hillary.
Even at that, it was a slam at the Media, not Obama
| 674 |
ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 7:24:19am |
re: #669 turn
well turn googled and yahooed it with no luck
I found it from a Conflict of Visions, but the quoter was not found
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vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 7:24:39am |
re: #670 Kosh's Shadow
The idea that poverty causes crime has been around for a long time, so there are probably dozens of people who could have said that, including, for example, LBJ and his "war on poverty".
If that phrase were really true, then explain why the serfs didn't all end up in jail during the Middle Ages. Sheesh.
| 676 |
OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:24:42am |
re: #641 realwest
It's not an assauly rifle unless it has the magic full-tilt boogie switch on it.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:25:01am |
re: #674 ConservatismNow!
I found it from a Conflict of Visions, but the quoter was not found
Very good- that is where I found this quote. Excellent book- everyone should check it out.
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OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:25:42am |
re: #675 vxbush
If that phrase were really true, then explain why the serfs didn't all end up in jail during the Middle Ages. Sheesh.
Because someone had to plant and harvest the crops.
The Bubonic Plague freed Europe by making labor scarce.
| 679 |
realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:26:34am |
re: #646 Occasional Reader
Ah CRAP! Now I've gotta go revize what I'd do with my powerball winnings after the first two items. Or I could wait until I actually, ya know, won Powerball.
But that wouldn't be as much fun!
| 680 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 7:26:55am |
re: #675 vxbush
If that phrase were really true, then explain why the serfs didn't all end up in jail during the Middle Ages. Sheesh.
Yes, I don't agree, but I couldn't come up with a good example. Thank you.
But every time I hear that poverty causes terrorism, I want to point out the 9/11 hijackers were all middle class, and ask about all the terrorism from Africa.
But since I mostly read it in stupid articles, I can't confront the writer with evidence.
| 681 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:27:26am |
re: #676 OldLineTexan
It's not an assauly rifle unless it has the magic full-tilt boogie switch on it.
And, as noted above, .50 Beowulf is NOT a caliber "used in heavy machineguns".
As James Taranto likes to say, "other than that, the report was accurate."
| 682 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 7:27:49am |
re: #665 Sharmuta
It was Ramsey Clark.
Why am I not surprised. A nutbar from the word go. Is this quote from his time in the Johnson administration?
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KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 7:28:09am |
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JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 7:29:21am |
re: #663 OldLineTexan
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH.
This is the media completing Josh Sugarmann's strategy.
A semi-automatic rifle is NOT an "Assault Rifle".
An Assault Rifle is an actual term (coined by the Nazi Germans) for a selective-fire weapon (i.e., a "machine gun" in old terms).
A semi-automatic rifle IS an "Assault WEAPON", which is a made-up scary word coined by Sugarmann et. al. for scary gunz.
This is the gun-banner's "wedge strategy" and it has worked in the gooey centers of the MSM's noggins.
Definition in the Federal AWB:
Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
* Folding or telescoping stock
* Pistol grip
* Bayonet mount
* Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
* Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device which enables the launching or firing of rifle grenades)
Note the complete lack of functional definitions, fire rate, caliber etc.. it basically cosmetic or misinformed. A flash suppressor isn't design to hide the muzzle flash form observers, it directs the flash away from the user so night vision is minimally impaired.
Why worry about a grenade launcher? Grenades are already illegal.
| 685 |
turn Mon, May 4, 2009 7:30:33am |
re: #683 KenJen
as linked above, $2 - dang Ya know I still find that hard to believe. If only I could be so lucky.
| 686 |
realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:30:43am |
re: #666 JCM
Good morning JCM - number 666 eh? How are you this morning?
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BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 7:31:08am |
re: #667 Sharmuta
OK- next time we play "Name that Asshat", I'll try to make it easier.
Thank you for the upding yesterday Sharm..
I wear that with pride..Thank you again
| 689 |
OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:32:32am |
re: #681 Occasional Reader
And, as noted above, .50 Beowulf is NOT a caliber "used in heavy machineguns".
As James Taranto likes to say, "other than that, the report was accurate."
Yes.
I have a confession. I did not bother to read the article, given the obvious error in the title.
I am not capable of being a teacher due to this tremendous character fault.
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:33:18am |
re: #679 realwest
Ah CRAP! Now I've gotta go revize what I'd do with my powerball winnings after the first two items.
So now I'm curious what those first two items would be...
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KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 7:33:29am |
re: #685 turn
as linked above, $2 - dang Ya know I still find that hard to believe. If only I could be so lucky.
They had the horses boxed. The guys were already rich. That would have never happened to me.
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realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:34:23am |
re: #681 Occasional Reader
? I've fired "Ma Dueces" .50 caliber Machine guns - not for very long, but I've fired 'em. Why would anyone say that they don't make a .50 caliber machine gun?
And the Soviets have something like a .54 caliber machine gun. Er, Russians, I mean!
| 694 |
OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:34:31am |
re: #684 JCM
Long before I found LGF (due to a Newsweek article naming it as HuffPoo's "enemy blog", I fought nine years of political battles at the local level over anti-rights enthusiasm and panacea gun-bans.
| 695 |
lawhawk Mon, May 4, 2009 7:34:44am |
re: #576 JCM
Indeed. It's an atrocious position, and keep in mind that Specter is himself a cancer survivor, having been diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease in 2005. He's also grossly distorting reality because research and development increase nearly 50% with the GOP in charge.
For all the money spent, it will not change the fact that people will still die of ailments, including cancer.
| 696 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:35:09am |
re: #689 OldLineTexan
Yes.
I have a confession. I did not bother to read the article, given the obvious error in the title.
I am not capable of being a teacher due to this tremendous character fault.
So I'm wondering, if you have one rifle chambered in .50 Beowulf, and another in 6.5mm Grendel, who'll win?
| 697 |
Irish Rose Mon, May 4, 2009 7:35:14am |
A bit of Monday morning humor for those of you who are single and didn't score over the weekend:
Lame-ass pick up lines:
“So, you’re a girl huh?”
“Good day for weather”
"Did it hurt when you fell out of Heaven?"
"Do you come here often?”
"That shirt is very becoming on you. Although if I were on you I'd be coming too".
"Want to come see my HARD DRIVE? I promise it isn't 3.5 inches and it ain't floppy".
“There’s this movie I wanted to see and my mom said I couldn’t go by myself…..”
Add yours here.
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OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:35:32am |
re: #693 realwest
? I've fired "Ma Dueces" .50 caliber Machine guns - not for very long, but I've fired 'em. Why would anyone say that they don't make a .50 caliber machine gun?
And the Soviets have something like a .54 caliber machine gun. Er, Russians, I mean!
.50 Beowulf =! .50 BMG
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Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 7:36:05am |
re: #650 realwest
Interesting insight from you sources. I had heard that Pakistan had allowed the US to place electronic devices on the nukes which made them more secure (ie. the devices controlled the arming sequence, if removed, the weapon was disarmed). Then I heard they did not put these things on.
I'm sure Musharraf was popular in the army, and that the elected gov't are massively corrupt.
///But don't worry: Obama pronounces it "Pawkeestawn" instead of Bush's "Paak'staan". I'm sure he's got the situation all under control now.
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:36:23am |
re: #693 realwest
Why would anyone say that they don't make a .50 caliber machine gun?
I didn't say the don't make a .50 caliber machinegun. I said they don't make (to my knowledge) a .50 Beowulf machinegun (which is a much shorter cartridge than the .50 BMG).
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:36:47am |
re: #697 Irish Rose
A bit of Monday morning humor for those of you who are single and didn't score over the weekend:
Lame-ass pick up lines:
“So, you’re a girl huh?”
“Good day for weather”
"Did it hurt when you fell out of Heaven?"
"Do you come here often?”
"That shirt is very becoming on you. Although if I were on you I'd be coming too".
"Want to come see my HARD DRIVE? I promise it isn't 3.5 inches and it ain't floppy".
“There’s this movie I wanted to see and my mom said I couldn’t go by myself…..”Add yours here.
"Nice shoes. Wanna fuck?"
| 702 |
Golem Akbar Mon, May 4, 2009 7:36:59am |
Good morning, Lizards!
Yesterday (Sunday) I went to the Israel Festival celebration at Woodley Park in Encino. If I find any news reports on the event, I'll link them. Ditto if I find any photos. I didn't bring my camera.
There were about 20,000 people in attendance. A lot of young families. I understand Mayor Villaraigosa attended AIPAC in Washington DC, and was not there.
But there was food, music, and the LA County Sheriff's parachute team dropped in with five flag-bearing parachuters. It was magnificent.
| 703 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 7:37:14am |
re: #684 JCM
Note the complete lack of functional definitions, fire rate, caliber etc.. it basically cosmetic or misinformed. A flash suppressor isn't design to hide the muzzle flash form observers, it directs the flash away from the user so night vision is minimally impaired.
Why worry about a grenade launcher? Grenades are already illegal.
I liked this part:
Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
"Assault weapon points"?
| 704 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 4, 2009 7:37:27am |
Obama to introduce tax reforms that target overseas loopholes
Seems like a good idea to me. I'd love to see George Soros pay his fair share of taxes. Any complaints?
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:37:37am |
re: #682 Ward Cleaver
Why am I not surprised. A nutbar from the word go. Is this quote from his time in the Johnson administration?
That's why I said you'd all go "AH!". ;)
| 706 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:38:12am |
re: #687 HoosierHoops
Thank you for the upding yesterday Sharm..
I wear that with pride..Thank you again
Upding on what?
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Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:38:47am |
re: #704 Killgore Trout
Obama to introduce tax reforms that target overseas loopholes
Seems like a good idea to me. I'd love to see George Soros pay his fair share of taxes. Any complaints?
I'm all in favor of closing loopholes. Flat tax would do that nicely.
| 709 |
realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:39:37am |
re: #691 Occasional Reader
1) book two suites (one for me and one for mom) at Memorial Sloane Kettering in NYC complete with the best doctors around.
2) get the hell outta debt (would take MUCH less than just a day a Memorial Sloane Kettering!).
And anything left over? Well someone asked me only about 15 years ago, what I'd like to be when I grow up, and I said the World's wealthiest philanthopist - course Gates has me beat on that one, but I would seriously give most of the rest of it away to charities. There are SO MANY worthwhile charities out there that are SMALL and yet still do so much good for so many people that I'd like to help 'em all triple their budgets!
| 710 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:40:27am |
re: #707 Sharmuta
I'm all in favor of closing loopholes. Flat tax would do that nicely.
[sigh]
Repeat after me: A "flat tax" (rate) has little or nothing to do with "closing loopholes".
| 711 |
ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 7:41:10am |
re: #696 Occasional Reader
So I'm wondering, if you have one rifle chambered in .50 Beowulf, and another in 6.5mm Grendel, who'll win?
Beowulf by an arm
| 712 |
KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 7:41:38am |
re: #701 NJDhockeyfan
"Nice shoes. Wanna fuck?"
Nice! I'm 5'10" tall with long legs. I once had a guy try to pick me up with the line "God it must take you hours to shave those legs." That's the worst I've experienced.
| 713 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 7:42:01am |
re: #694 OldLineTexan
Long before I found LGF (due to a Newsweek article naming it as HuffPoo's "enemy blog", I fought nine years of political battles at the local level over anti-rights enthusiasm and panacea gun-bans.
In WA we have Washington Cease Fire in the grabbers corner and Washington Arms Collectors (WAC) (I'm a member) in the gun rights corner. WA Constitution is very strong on the right to keep and bear, and case law for self defense is excellent.
Recently they tried to close the "gunshow loophole" WAC which runs gun shows, ask for data on gun show guns used in crimes. The State AG couldn't find a single crime with the gun traced to gun shows.
| 714 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 7:42:01am |
The Obama administration inherited from President Bush a multiyear, $100 million secret American program to help Pakistan build stronger physical protections around some of those facilities, and to train Pakistanis in nuclear security.But much of that effort has now petered out, and American officials have never been permitted to see how much of the money was spent, the facilities where the weapons are kept or even a tally of how many Pakistan has produced. The facility Pakistan was supposed to build to conduct its own training exercises is running years behind schedule.
| 715 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:42:01am |
re: #704 Killgore Trout
Obama to introduce tax reforms that target overseas loopholes
Seems like a good idea to me. I'd love to see George Soros pay his fair share of taxes. Any complaints?
I'd want to know more about it, besides CNN's fawning reportage, before judging.
And I note we already have among the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world.
| 717 |
turn Mon, May 4, 2009 7:42:18am |
re: #699 Kenneth
There is a link up on Drudge showing how the white house reporters didn't even stand up when Bush entered the room yet they pop up like jack in the boxes now when O enters - spit
| 718 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 4, 2009 7:42:39am |
re: #707 Sharmuta
The problem with Flat Tax is that it shifts the tax burden down the economic ladder from the rich to the middle and lower classes. The other problem is most flat tax systems don't allow people to write off things like mortgage interest and business expenses.
| 719 |
ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 7:43:28am |
re: #697 Irish Rose
Want to go out for some sex and a pizza? When she says no, ask "What, you don't like pizza?"
| 720 |
realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:43:40am |
re: #699 Kenneth What you heard about the elcectronic devices was correct but was not the full story. And I ain't gonna say anything more about it.
| 721 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:44:03am |
re: #718 Killgore Trout
The problem with Flat Tax is that it shifts the tax burden down the economic ladder from the rich to the middle and lower classes. The other problem is most flat tax systems don't allow people to write off things like mortgage interest and business expenses.
Write offs can and are abused. Like buying a boat, and taking a client out on it once. Write off.
| 722 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 7:44:04am |
re: #697 Irish Rose
A bit of Monday morning humor for those of you who are single and didn't score over the weekend:
Lame-ass pick up lines:
“So, you’re a girl huh?”
“Good day for weather”
"Did it hurt when you fell out of Heaven?"
"Do you come here often?”
"That shirt is very becoming on you. Although if I were on you I'd be coming too".
"Want to come see my HARD DRIVE? I promise it isn't 3.5 inches and it ain't floppy".
“There’s this movie I wanted to see and my mom said I couldn’t go by myself…..”Add yours here.
LOL
Last year at the Company Christmas party my Sis flew out here from Seattle and we danced alot together...It was like 1am when we were all sitting around chatting when there was this young lady dancing on the floor all alone..My wife looked at me..Then my sister..
'Why is that girl dancing all by herself hoopster?' Who is that?
I told my sis and wife she was a new hire..I didn't really know here.
My wife goes..You get your ass on the floor before she embarrasses herself..Now Hoopster! Yes dear..jeez..Christmas parties...
So try this line..' Hi my Wife and Sister told me I have to dance with you or they will kick my ass' What's your name?
| 723 |
lawhawk Mon, May 4, 2009 7:44:05am |
re: #704 Killgore Trout
Obama to introduce tax reforms that target overseas loopholes
Seems like a good idea to me. I'd love to see George Soros pay his fair share of taxes. Any complaints?
Would those include the loopholes that Rep. Charles Rangel purposely included in order to make AIG and other NY financial firms happy? I wonder... /
| 724 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 4, 2009 7:44:57am |
re: #715 Occasional Reader
And I note we already have among the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world.
I think they're targeting guys like Soros who incorporate on islands in the Caribbean to avoid American taxes.
| 725 |
irongrampa Mon, May 4, 2009 7:45:02am |
re: #704 Killgore Trout
And the reason that firms move their tax liabilities overseas would be what?
| 726 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 7:45:12am |
re: #698 OldLineTexan
.50 Beowulf =! .50 BMG
.50 Beowulf.
300 gr (19 g) 1,870 ft/s (570 m/s) 2,330 ft·lbf
.50 BMG.
647 gr (41.9 g) 3,044 ft/s (928 m/s) 13,144 ft·lbf
| 727 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 7:45:49am |
re: #717 turn
The media are a pack of lick-spittle toadies. But even they won't be able to put enough spin on Al Qaeda getting control of Pakistani nukes.
| 728 |
turn Mon, May 4, 2009 7:45:58am |
re: #704 Killgore Trout
Obama to introduce tax reforms that target overseas loopholes
Seems like a good idea to me. I'd love to see George Soros pay his fair share of taxes. Any complaints?
Yeah, I didn't like the idea of corporations having to prove there innocence rather than the other way around and that it will result in something like 700 more federal employees to monitor the whole thing.
| 729 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 7:46:43am |
re: #717 turn
There is a link up on Drudge showing how the white house reporters didn't even stand up when Bush entered the room yet they pop up like jack in the boxes now when O enters - spit
I just looked at Drudge, and didn't see it. Link, please?
| 730 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:46:46am |
re: #724 Killgore Trout
I think they're targeting guys like Soros
Oh, sure! I'm totally positive that the Obama Administration is targeting George Soros.
Of course, I also believe that magic leprechauns are sprinkling pixie dust to make the unicorns... well, you get the idea.
| 731 |
FrogMarch Mon, May 4, 2009 7:47:25am |
re: #730 Occasional Reader
Oh, sure! I'm totally positive that the Obama Administration is targeting George Soros.
Of course, I also believe that magic leprechauns are sprinkling pixie dust to make the unicorns... well, you get the idea.
exactly. Democrats don't usually target their benefactors.
| 732 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:47:44am |
re: #726 JCM
.50 Beowulf.
300 gr (19 g) 1,870 ft/s (570 m/s) 2,330 ft·lbf.50 BMG.
647 gr (41.9 g) 3,044 ft/s (928 m/s) 13,144 ft·lbf
I think OLT was trying to do the "does not equal" sign. Just a guess.
| 734 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 7:48:20am |
re: #720 realwest
Gak! Which part was correct? That they did or that they did not?
Ok, you can't say what you can't say...
| 735 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, May 4, 2009 7:48:21am |
re: #721 Sharmuta
Saw Gus's comments last night. Also read the counterfeit site. What a bunch of assholes over there.
| 736 |
OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:48:43am |
re: #732 Occasional Reader
I think OLT was trying to do the "does not equal" sign. Just a guess.
It's an old, old, old substitute for it. Back in the days of REAL memos.
/
| 737 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:48:43am |
re: #735 Honorary Yooper
Saw Gus's comments last night. Also read the counterfeit site. What a bunch of assholes over there.
Indeed.
| 738 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:49:23am |
re: #724 Killgore Trout
I think they're targeting guys like Soros who incorporate on islands in the Caribbean to avoid American taxes.
And, leaving your "targeting George Soros" joke aside for the moment, why do you think that people shouldn't be free to incorporate a business wherever they want, by the way?
| 739 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 7:49:30am |
re: #706 Sharmuta
Upding on what?
You don't remember..Here that sound?
That is the sound of air rushing out of my head like a balloon zipping around the room..
I did get updinged by Sharm and as God is my witness I shall never go hungry again!
LOL
| 740 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, May 4, 2009 7:49:34am |
re: #724 Killgore Trout
I think they're targeting guys like Soros who incorporate on islands in the Caribbean to avoid American taxes.
They are targeting any business and anyone that they can bring under their soft nationalization.
They will turn on Soros and anyone else if it is necessary to the administrations obvious plan to hammer private money.
And no, I don't feel sorry for Soros. He should have read a little history to see what socialism, soft or otherwise, really means.
| 741 |
Irish Rose Mon, May 4, 2009 7:49:48am |
re: #722 HoosierHoops
So try this line..' Hi my Wife and Sister told me I have to dance with you or they will kick my ass' What's your name?
I'm sure she was thrilled.
| 742 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:50:32am |
re: #739 HoosierHoops
I do my best to upding comments that make sense, or make me laugh.
| 743 |
Irish Rose Mon, May 4, 2009 7:50:49am |
| 744 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:51:19am |
re: #736 OldLineTexan
It's an old, old, old substitute for it. Back in the days of REAL memos.
/
[found on cave wall in southern Spain]
Memo to: Thag
From: Oog
Mastodon =! "big ground squirrel"
Please revise spear requirement report ASAP
| 745 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:51:44am |
re: #743 Irish Rose
You don't know the half of it.
"Assholes" is too kind a word.
I'm sure I don't know the half of it. I can only take so much venom before the auto-gaze function kicks in.
| 747 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 7:51:49am |
re: #585 Kosh's Shadow
Obama's Iran policy is worrying more than just Israel:
Gates plans to reassure allies on Iran outreachwhile we’re willing to reach out to the Iranians, as the president said, with an open hand, I think everybody in the administration, from the president on down, is pretty realistic and will be pretty tough-minded if we still encounter a closed fist."And now we get this:
Iran’s Strategy in Nuke Talks: Come Out Punching, Attack U.S.Iran intends to “come out punching” at an upcoming conference regarding nuclear armaments, and will attack the U.S. for cooperating with Israel and India on nuclear programs, according to the Reuters news agency.
So is this going to be enough, or will Obama wait until they nuke NY? (He might send a strongly worded letter if Tel Aviv gets nuked.)
| 748 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 7:51:50am |
re: #732 Occasional Reader
I think OLT was trying to do the "does not equal" sign. Just a guess.
That's what I figure, just posting HOW different the two rounds are.
| 749 |
yochanan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:51:57am |
re: #697 Irish Rose
i am married and i did not score either
but i did sleep well.
| 750 |
OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:53:14am |
re: #740 Walter L. Newton
Walter, I went to the ABC site and they only have the four most recent episodes on-line. Sigh.
OTOH, my portable does a great job of running my 32" LCD TV through the HDMI, although it does not send the audio for some reason. So if I get a keyboard, I will be able to sit on the kids' beanbag sofa and surf teh Interwebs in comfort.
| 751 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:53:17am |
re: #748 JCM
That's what I figure, just posting HOW different the two rounds are.
I've seen, but not fired, Beowulf. An M4 platform in that round would be, I'm guessing, quite a handful, but a lot of fun.
I have fired .50 BMG (Barrett). TONS of fun.
| 752 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 7:53:24am |
Hoops- you flatter me, but you got an upding because you merited one.
| 753 |
Irish Rose Mon, May 4, 2009 7:53:31am |
Above comment was directed at #735 Honorary Yooper, oops.
| 754 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 7:53:51am |
re: #741 Irish Rose
I'm sure she was thrilled.
It was fun..We brought her over to our table..She still works for us and she is a neat gal..Single mom..really bright...
| 755 |
ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 7:54:08am |
re: #747 Kosh's Shadow
Or he might sit that dumbfounded at how the Iranians rebuffed all his diplomatic efforts. How can he organize the world community with all these nukes going off? How dare they!
| 756 |
OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:54:08am |
re: #744 Occasional Reader
[found on cave wall in southern Spain]
Memo to: Thag
From: OogMastodon =! "big ground squirrel"
Please revise spear requirement report ASAP
The typewriters at my first job were leftover rejected by the TANG as "too primitive".
| 757 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:54:19am |
re: #747 Kosh's Shadow
(He might send a strongly worded letter if Tel Aviv gets nuked.)
And Hillary will voice how "very disappointed" she is.
| 758 |
yma o hyd Mon, May 4, 2009 7:54:58am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Any meltdowns last night?
WHo got the stick?
C'mon, spill the beans!
:-)
| 759 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 4, 2009 7:55:16am |
re: #738 Occasional Reader
And, leaving your "targeting George Soros" joke aside for the moment, why do you think that people shouldn't be free to incorporate a business wherever they want, by the way?
Because a lot of wealthy people incorporate in countries they've never even been to while living and doing business in the US without paying US taxes. They should pay their fair share. We could all incorporate in the Virgin Islands like Soros and we could starve the government to death within a year.
| 760 |
realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 7:55:23am |
re: #728 turn
Uh, turn - why should a corporation have to establish innocence? For all other laws (except Sexual Harassment laws) the government has to prove you're guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I'd rather not go screwing around with the legal system over this, when some changes to the Internal Revenue Code could handle the worst problems.
| 761 |
nbenhaim Mon, May 4, 2009 7:56:07am |
so i think i know what little green footballs stands for....its just a complete guess but its the only thing i could come up with....
I was reading Joker One - basically a war story about a Marine in Iraq, and he mentioned a "little green baseball" and he was referring to grenade or some kind of explosive (i forget). Then I thought wow, little green football sure does describe a grenade pretty well.
So... grenades?
| 763 |
Irish Rose Mon, May 4, 2009 7:56:23am |
Is anyone else seeing double posts, or is it just me?
| 764 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, May 4, 2009 7:56:24am |
re: #753 Irish Rose
I saw, and I agree. However, if my true feelings about them were aired, I know my comment would be deleted. It's not easy to contrain one's anger at these twits.
| 765 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 7:56:50am |
re: #763 Irish Rose
Is anyone else seeing double posts, or is it just me?
Kind of early to be drunk, isn't it?
/
| 767 |
OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:57:07am |
re: #762 taxfreekiller
[Link: www.arapahoebasin.com...]
Date Line:::
May 4, 2009
Yo,Al Gore?
"cool" uh?
or does this sort of "snow board" you?
OK, ok, I admit it, it's down right "cold" of me..
tfk
Nancy Pelosi never heard of snowboarding.
/
| 769 |
OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 7:57:34am |
re: #766 Occasional Reader
Work to do. Later.
I'm gonna go watch him work to make sure he does it right. Bye!
/
| 770 |
turn Mon, May 4, 2009 7:57:43am |
re: #760 realwest
"Under Obama's proposal, Americans would have to prove they were not breaking U.S. tax laws by sending money to banks that don't cooperate with tax officials. It essentially would reverse the long-held assumption of innocence in U.S. courts."
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
| 771 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 4, 2009 7:57:47am |
More details here....
Obama Wants $190 Billion Tax Increase on Companies (Update1)
| 772 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 7:57:56am |
re: #758 yma o hyd
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Any meltdowns last night?
WHo got the stick?
C'mon, spill the beans!:-)
{yma} Hope today finds you well! I'm off today..On the Deck..
and yes..a cold beer is involved
| 773 |
ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 7:58:40am |
re: #765 Occasional Reader
Kind of early to be drunk, isn't it?
/
unless you have not been to bed yet.
| 774 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 4, 2009 8:00:11am |
re: #771 Killgore Trout
....the president believes his tax proposals strike at loopholes that give multinational companies an unfair advantage over companies that operate only within the U.S., an Obama official said last night on condition of anonymity.
Ok, it's starting to smell like protectionism.
| 775 |
Golem Akbar Mon, May 4, 2009 8:00:38am |
re: #765 Occasional Reader
Kind of early to be drunk, isn't it?
/
I don't see double posts.
I don't see double posts.
| 776 |
yma o hyd Mon, May 4, 2009 8:00:56am |
re: #772 HoosierHoops
{yma} Hope today finds you well! I'm off today..On the Deck..
and yes..a cold beer is involved
Hiya, {HH}!
Lucky you!
Here, its a Bank Holiday (thats a public Holiday - everything closed except big shopping malls ...) and of course, according to good British tradition, the lovely weather we had yesterday is now replaced by cold, grim, windy and damp/rainy weather!
Never fails: Bank Holiday = rain and misery!
| 777 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 4, 2009 8:01:43am |
re: #759 Killgore Trout
Because a lot of wealthy people incorporate in countries they've never even been to while living and doing business in the US without paying US taxes. They should pay their fair share. We could all incorporate in the Virgin Islands like Soros and we could starve the government to death within a year.
OR ,,, lower corporate taxes so that companies will flock TOO the USA as their base of operations
side benefits
creates jobs
raises gov't revenues
| 778 |
ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 8:01:59am |
re: #770 turn
that's bad bad bad news. I hope the USSC strikes that sucker down quick.
| 779 |
Irish Rose Mon, May 4, 2009 8:02:16am |
Gotta get ready for work folks, have a great day!
| 780 |
NonNativeTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 8:02:38am |
re: #718 Killgore Trout
Hey KT.
I disagree . The flat tax does not shift the burden down the
economic ladder. 15% of 1,000,000 is a lot more than 15% of 20,000.
| 782 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 4, 2009 8:03:04am |
re: #777 sattv4u2
Agreed. We should lower our corporate tax rate.
| 783 |
quickjustice Mon, May 4, 2009 8:03:06am |
re: #774 Killgore Trout
No, it's starting to smell like tax increases. Closing "loopholes" is jargon for raising taxes. But notice that Obama's notion of "fairness" always involves raising taxes, not lowering them.
| 784 |
realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 8:03:22am |
re: #758 yma o hyd
Hi ya {yma}! Well Ayatollah Ghilmeini got the boot sometime this weekend, don't know who else.
| 785 |
CynicalConservative Mon, May 4, 2009 8:03:57am |
re: #784 realwest
Hi ya {yma}! Well Ayatollah Ghilmeini got the boot sometime this weekend, don't know who else.
Thom went down yesterday too...
| 787 |
yma o hyd Mon, May 4, 2009 8:05:21am |
re: #784 realwest
Hi ya {yma}! Well Ayatollah Ghilmeini got the boot sometime this weekend, don't know who else.
Hoya, {rw}!
Hope you're fine and dandy on this first Monday in May!
Yeah - knew about Ayatollah Ghilmeini. I felt it was on the cards. Pity, that.
| 788 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 8:05:22am |
re: #776 yma o hyd
Hiya, {HH}!
Lucky you!Here, its a Bank Holiday (thats a public Holiday - everything closed except big shopping malls ...) and of course, according to good British tradition, the lovely weather we had yesterday is now replaced by cold, grim, windy and damp/rainy weather!
Never fails: Bank Holiday = rain and misery!
It's sunny out and little Winston is having a blast playing in the back yard...He'll look up here and smile and go chase a bird or something..
Days like today..makes everything worth it
| 791 |
yma o hyd Mon, May 4, 2009 8:06:55am |
re: #785 CynicalConservative
Thom went down yesterday too...
Heh - now that I saw in real-life, as it were ...
No, I thought the two ID threads might have enticed some lurkers out from under their lurking places.
| 792 |
avanti Mon, May 4, 2009 8:07:14am |
re: #783 quickjustice
No, it's starting to smell like tax increases. Closing "loopholes" is jargon for raising taxes. But notice that Obama's notion of "fairness" always involves raising taxes, not lowering them.
Never thought I'd hear a defense for corporations stashing money in Swiss banks, the Cayman's and the like to avoid taxes. It's tax evasion using loop holes pure and simple.
The market does not appear to fear the idea, it's up over 175 points this A.M.
| 793 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 8:07:17am |
re: #790 taxfreekiller
realwest
make sure Iron Fist gets this info
some of tfk and other VN vets idea's on things
Leo Berman State Rep. Texas
HB-1863he can find it via [Link: www.texasonline.com...]
this will at some point light up the sky and the msm
later
Hurry back TFKer
| 794 |
realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 8:07:41am |
re: #789 turn Went off the rails on the BNP legitimacy thread I heard - but I wasn't there and don't know for sure why.
| 795 |
midwestgak Mon, May 4, 2009 8:07:42am |
His Obamaness is about to give the teleprompter another go re: tax reform.
| 796 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 8:08:37am |
re: #795 midwestgak
His Obamaness is about to give the teleprompter another go re: tax reform.
Good Morning..Hope today finds you well Gal
| 797 |
yma o hyd Mon, May 4, 2009 8:08:55am |
re: #788 HoosierHoops
It's sunny out and little Winston is having a blast playing in the back yard...He'll look up here and smile and go chase a bird or something..
Days like today..makes everything worth it
Agree, absolutely!
Nothing beats sitting in the garden, watching one or two dogs rushing about, playing, while the sun shines and there's nothing to do except get another cold drink ...!
| 798 |
CynicalConservative Mon, May 4, 2009 8:08:55am |
re: #795 midwestgak
His Obamaness is about to give the teleprompter another go re: tax reform.
So much for the market rally then.
| 800 |
realwest Mon, May 4, 2009 8:09:55am |
Well y'all it's been interesting as usual but I gotta run or at least walk - chores, doc's, labs etc etc.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you down the road!
| 801 |
soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 8:10:02am |
re: #718 Killgore Trout
The flat tax is the only fair tax option available. Everyone pays their fair share and success is not punished monetarily. No write offs means no abuses.
| 802 |
midwestgak Mon, May 4, 2009 8:11:01am |
re: #796 HoosierHoops
Good Morning..Hope today finds you well Gal
{Hoosier}. Good Morning to you. I am well. And you?
| 803 |
Liberal Classic Mon, May 4, 2009 8:11:21am |
Since this is an open thread, MSNBC.com has an article on Obama's higher education plan.
Some highlights:
-Student loans become an entitlement like Social Security or Medicare
- "Near" government monopoly on student loans
- Every American attends college
- Raise graduation rates
- An emphasis on need instead of academic talent
- Wants the U.S. to "lead the world" in the proportion of college graduates
One unanswered questions from the article is, if college is an entitlement are these "loan" expected to be repaid? The article calls the status quo "unsustainable".
Another question is what will this do to the value of a degree? The article gives no analysis to this issue. While I generally consider education a worthy goal, I question the efficacy of the government sending everyone to university while trying to inflate graduation rates.
Yet another factor is, since the government guarantees the education plan as "free" many nations have had to ration access to control costs. To not ration access leads to a fraction of the college student body who are perpetual students. Some European nations have a problem with this.
The last unanswered question (and I think the most important) is what to do with people who do drop out or flunk out of college. With a virtual government monopoly on student funding, how many changes will the government give a student to graduate? Our system, while not perfect, has the feature that people of all age groups and experience levels attend higher education. Many university systems in Europe (presumably Obama's model) give students one chance to make grades. In some European nations, older and returning students are very uncommon. College is the playground of the young, but if you fail out you are essentially dooming yourself to blue collar status. This is unlike the U.S. university system where a significant fraction are older or continuing students. Our system, which not perfect, allows for a certain amount of class mobility not found in some European systems.
This last issue strikes me close to home. I flunked out of college the first time. Now that I'm older, I'm getting my degree next spring. Under Obama's plan, would I have been allowed to return?
| 804 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 4, 2009 8:11:58am |
re: #782 Killgore Trout
Agreed. We should lower our corporate tax rate.
Me? I'd offer ZERO corporate tax for lets say 5 years for ANY existing corporation that agrees to set up shop here in the USA. The taxes that the gov't would collect off of the new hires as well as taking getting to take those same people off of unemployment,,, gov't health care ,,, etc ,, MORE than makes up for it
| 805 |
Nevergiveup Mon, May 4, 2009 8:12:54am |
re: #803 Liberal Classic
What about my 2 kids college loans. Will they be wiped off the books for this conservative republican?
| 806 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 8:13:02am |
re: #774 Killgore Trout
Ok, it's starting to smell like protectionism.
Cool! The last piece of a depression being put into place. Smoot-Hawley redux!
History be damned! The One is smarter than history!
| 807 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 8:14:16am |
re: #797 yma o hyd
Agree, absolutely!
Nothing beats sitting in the garden, watching one or two dogs rushing about, playing, while the sun shines and there's nothing to do except get another cold drink ...!
I always thank God for his mercy's..A beautiful sunny day..A wonderful woman and great kids..Warm friends and music...
I love life with all my heart
| 808 |
Liberal Classic Mon, May 4, 2009 8:14:29am |
re: #805 Nevergiveup
What about my 2 kids college loans. Will they be wiped off the books for this conservative republican?
Another good question. The article does not address people who are currentlt carrying loans.
| 809 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 8:14:35am |
re: #747 Kosh's Shadow
Iran’s Strategy in Nuke Talks: Come Out Punching, Attack U.S.
Clenched enough for ya, Barry?
| 810 |
ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 8:14:45am |
re: #806 JCM
I laughed, JCM. "I was elected to lead, not to read!"
| 811 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, May 4, 2009 8:15:02am |
| 812 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 8:15:05am |
re: #803 Liberal Classic
Since this is an open thread, MSNBC.com has an article on Obama's higher education plan.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
Some highlights:
-Student loans become an entitlement like Social Security or Medicare
- "Near" government monopoly on student loans
- Every American attends college
- Raise graduation rates
- An emphasis on need instead of academic talent
- Wants the U.S. to "lead the world" in the proportion of college graduatesOne unanswered questions from the article is, if college is an entitlement are these "loan" expected to be repaid? The article calls the status quo "unsustainable".
Another question is what will this do to the value of a degree? The article gives no analysis to this issue. While I generally consider education a worthy goal, I question the efficacy of the government sending everyone to university while trying to inflate graduation rates.
Yet another factor is, since the government guarantees the education plan as "free" many nations have had to ration access to control costs. To not ration access leads to a fraction of the college student body who are perpetual students. Some European nations have a problem with this.
The last unanswered question (and I think the most important) is what to do with people who do drop out or flunk out of college. With a virtual government monopoly on student funding, how many changes will the government give a student to graduate? Our system, while not perfect, has the feature that people of all age groups and experience levels attend higher education. Many university systems in Europe (presumably Obama's model) give students one chance to make grades. In some European nations, older and returning students are very uncommon. College is the playground of the young, but if you fail out you are essentially dooming yourself to blue collar status. This is unlike the U.S. university system where a significant fraction are older or continuing students. Our system, which not perfect, allows for a certain amount of class mobility not found in some European systems.
This last issue strikes me close to home. I flunked out of college the first time. Now that I'm older, I'm getting my degree next spring. Under Obama's plan, would I have been allowed to return?
I can appreciate your concerns. But having a college degree isn't as cut-and-dried an indicator of ability as you might think. Yes, it is good to have, but often *where* you got your degree is seen as more important.
| 813 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 8:16:16am |
re: #802 midwestgak
{Hoosier}. Good Morning to you. I am well. And you?
Hey Gal..Off work..On the deck..drinking a cold one..having too much fun
| 814 |
Russkilitlover Mon, May 4, 2009 8:16:48am |
re: #771 Killgore Trout
More details here....
Obama Wants $190 Billion Tax Increase on Companies (Update1)
“The simple thinkers in the White House will learn the such policies will result in less economic exchange, both overseas and here in the United States,” Shipman said.
I'd like to hear in detail how Obama thinks he can grow the economy "from the bottom up." Clueless buffoon.
| 815 |
yochanan Mon, May 4, 2009 8:16:59am |
re: #767 OldLineTexan
is snow boarding any thing like 'cold water boarding'
last time i went sking i tore up my right knee and had to drive a stick shift home with one leg.
i figured out i really only like the apre ski any way.
| 816 |
lawhawk Mon, May 4, 2009 8:17:12am |
re: #801 soxfan4life
The flat tax is the only fair tax option available. Everyone pays their fair share and success is not punished monetarily. No write offs means no abuses.
Flat tax is not the only "fair" tax option. One can have a graduated income tax, with limited deductions and credits - eliminating much of the loopholes and difficulty in calculating tax obligations.
One could have a graduated tax rate with 10/15/20/25% brackets, and limited credits and deductions - such as no mortgage deduction for those in the 25% bracket (the top in my example).
The biggest problem is that special interests want to have their tax breaks continued, which distorts the tax code and makes it needlessly complicated. Take biofuels for example, and how the feds have all kinds of tax breaks for farmers, biofuel production, biofuel consumption, and alternative fuels tax breaks (where taxpayers could take advantage of any and all of the above).
Throw in craziness like Obama's smoke and mirrors "tax cut" which was a minor readjustment of withholding that will end up costing taxpayers come next April when their tax refunds "suddenly" don't look as big as they had hoped, and you see just how bad things have gotten.
| 817 |
yma o hyd Mon, May 4, 2009 8:17:13am |
re: #807 HoosierHoops
I always thank God for his mercy's..A beautiful sunny day..A wonderful woman and great kids..Warm friends and music...
I love life with all my heart
Only those who love life with all their hearts can really enjoy it.
You are a very good man, {HH} - and I'll never forget what you did for Walter.
| 818 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 8:17:41am |
re: #792 avanti
Never thought I'd hear a defense for corporations stashing money in Swiss banks, the Cayman's and the like to avoid taxes. It's tax evasion using loop holes pure and simple.
The market does not appear to fear the idea, it's up over 175 points this A.M.
The negative effect would be that US corporations' costs would increase (they're not going to just eat the increased taxes), putting them at a further disadvantage compared to foreign competitors. The larger tax burden would be passed along to consumers, in the form of higher prices.
| 819 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 8:18:26am |
re: #810 ConservatismNow!
I laughed, JCM. "I was elected to lead, not to read!"
He's leading alright....
Alinsky is so proud.
| 820 |
justabill Mon, May 4, 2009 8:18:41am |
re: #767 OldLineTexan
Nancy Pelosi never heard of snowboarding.
/
Nope, because with global warming, snowboarding would become waterboarding and we all know Nancy knows absolutely nothing about waterboarding or anything similar.
| 821 |
lawhawk Mon, May 4, 2009 8:18:51am |
re: #803 Liberal Classic
The federal loan program is in effect a subsidy for higher education facilities. The costs continue rising because the feds keep pumping more money to schools, who face few constraints on their own spending. The solution is to continue increasing tuitions, knowing that the feds will keep funding ever higher amounts of debt - squeezing the middle class out of education, even at public universities.
| 822 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 8:18:54am |
| 823 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 8:19:03am |
re: #803 Liberal Classic
Besides, a lot of jobs don't require college degrees. And seriously (as someone with a Master's), many of those jobs are more important than the ones that do require a degree.
Believe me, I find electricians, plumbers, truck drivers, paving crews, and many other jobs essential.
And the way we're outsourcing, it is exactly those jobs that will be more in demand. You can't outsource them.
| 824 |
eschew_obfuscation Mon, May 4, 2009 8:21:30am |
re: #818 Ward Cleaver
The negative effect would be that US corporations' costs would increase (they're not going to just eat the increased taxes), putting them at a further disadvantage compared to foreign competitors. The larger tax burden would be passed along to consumers, in the form of higher prices.
And eventually, with what could be the highest corporate tax rates in the world, our businesses will move out of the country in order to compete.
| 825 |
Nevergiveup Mon, May 4, 2009 8:21:37am |
re: #821 lawhawk
The federal loan program is in effect a subsidy for higher education facilities. The costs continue rising because the feds keep pumping more money to schools, who face few constraints on their own spending. The solution is to continue increasing tuitions, knowing that the feds will keep funding ever higher amounts of debt - squeezing the middle class out of education, even at public universities.
Boy do I know that feeling
| 826 |
yma o hyd Mon, May 4, 2009 8:21:59am |
re: #803 Liberal Classic
That looks like another thing PB0 copied from Tony Blair and the neostalinist NuLab government over here ...
Whats the result so far?
Students in debt, can't get jobs, especially in today's climate - and because 'everybody' (well, 50%, according to tone) must have a degree, you can now be an academic in golf-course maintenance ...
The other result is that the government dictates to the colleges and universities whom all they must admit - but there are not enough places nor lecturers for everybody.
So - standards sink, academic degrees get devalued (because, see, everybody must get a prize and enforcing standards is sooo elitist!) and its a total waste of young peoples' lives, aspirations and resources.
And thats not even taking into account what it does to the universities and colleges ...
But it does sound nice and progressive when proposed! Who could possibly be against something for the children ...
| 827 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 4, 2009 8:22:07am |
Another hedge fund manager gets nabbed....
FBI arrests Stamford hedge fund manager
A hedge fund manager and former UBS trader -- already the subject of a federal investigation involving an alleged $30 million fraud -- was arrested by FBI agents Friday at his Stamford home on mail fraud charges.Francesco Rusciano, 27, of Strawberry Hill Avenue, is accused of raising money for two hedge funds and defrauding victims by materially overstating and misrepresenting his background and experience as well as overstating his success and historic performance, according to a statement from Nora Dannehy, acting U.S. attorney for Connecticut
| 828 |
ConservatismNow! Mon, May 4, 2009 8:22:34am |
re: #823 Kosh's Shadow
Tech support jobs don't require degrees. They just require experience and certs in that order.
| 829 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 4, 2009 8:22:41am |
PEOPLE ,, I have a HOT FLASH for you
CORPORATIONS don't really pay ANY 'taxes". Whatever goods and/ or services they provide are sold in the open marketplace. They add the "cost" of those taxes to what you buy or get serviced
Again ,, ZERO corporate tax offer to ANY existing company that relocates TO the USA.
THATS how you "create" jobs ,, NOT by some gov't program
| 830 |
Liberal Classic Mon, May 4, 2009 8:22:54am |
re: #823 Kosh's Shadow
Besides, a lot of jobs don't require college degrees. And seriously (as someone with a Master's), many of those jobs are more important than the ones that do require a degree.
Believe me, I find electricians, plumbers, truck drivers, paving crews, and many other jobs essential.
And the way we're outsourcing, it is exactly those jobs that will be more in demand. You can't outsource them.
I totally agree. Where does this plan leave vocational education?
To me the plan sounds like turning college into high school, with universal attendance and inflated graduation rates.
| 831 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 8:23:11am |
OBAMA AND THE NEO-MARXIST LEFT: The Clever Manipulation of Projection and Paranoia
The beginning of the 21st century will surely be looked back on as a golden age of paranoia. The headlines of today fairly ooze with the delusions and vast conspiracies dreamed of in the mind of the paranoid left.
The tools of the paranoid are denial, distortion, and projection. These psychological tools are almost always pathological when used to cope with the real world. For the user these three primitive psychological defenses permit a [hopefully temporary] rearrangement of external reality so that an actual, often unpleasant or painful reality may be avoided; for the beholder, the users of these mechanisms frequently appear crazy or insane. These are known as the "psychotic" defenses, common in overt psychosis, in dreams, and throughout childhood.
Denial is a refusal to accept external reality because it is too threatening. There are examples of denial being adaptive (for example, it might be adaptive for a person who has a terminal illness to use some degree of denial). But for the most part, denial is only useful as a short-term strategy, to permit a person to come to terms with reality. As a long-term strategy to protect self-identity, it is potentially lethal--since the person or group that uses it extensively is blinded to the real danger that might be out there.
Distortion is a gross reshaping of external reality to meet internal needs. It is more acceptable to believe that some evil person has tricked you, than it is to believe that you behaved stupidly.
Delusional Projection occurs when an individual or group have delusions about external reality, usually of a persecutory nature. Scapegoating is not only possible under these psychological conditions, it is often necessary
| 832 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 8:23:27am |
re: #824 eschew_obfuscation
And eventually, with what could be the highest corporate tax rates in the world, our businesses will move out of the country in order to compete.
This will accelerate the process that is already happening.
Outsourcing the work just builds companies overseas, and then, they'll have the expertise to do all the work. The US will just have some sales and marketing.
And the execs will find they can't make the same money they made before, but they'll have the money they made from driving their companies into the ground to live on.
| 833 |
midwestgak Mon, May 4, 2009 8:23:55am |
re: #813 HoosierHoops
Hey Gal..Off work..On the deck..drinking a cold one..having too much fun
Good for you! What is your favorite "cold one?"
| 834 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 8:23:58am |
re: #817 yma o hyd
Only those who love life with all their hearts can really enjoy it.
You are a very good man, {HH} - and I'll never forget what you did for Walter.
Thanks Dear..BTW..Do you know where Sefton Park Estates are outside of London? We have an office in the Estates..I should be there in Oct. working on the server farm..I'll give you a call! *wink* I love Europe.
| 835 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 4, 2009 8:24:48am |
re: #829 sattv4u2
I think a zero tax rate is a little unrealistic. I would be more in favor of closing tax haven loopholes if it was also accompanied with a lower of the corporate tax rate. It looks like Obama is just searching for revenue.
| 836 |
Nevergiveup Mon, May 4, 2009 8:25:07am |
President Shimon Peres praised the Arab League peace plan Monday, welcoming it as a shift in Arab thinking and indicating it could serve as a basis for moving the peace process forward.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
It's a good thing the senile old man has only a ceremonial post and no real power.
| 837 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 8:25:11am |
re: #828 ConservatismNow!
Tech support jobs don't require degrees. They just require experience and certs in that order.
Not just tech support is being outsourced, but development as well. Those typically do need degrees (although one of the best developers I knew didn't have one, and had trouble getting work because of it.)
| 838 |
lawhawk Mon, May 4, 2009 8:26:51am |
re: #835 Killgore Trout
I think a zero tax rate is a little unrealistic. I would be more in favor of closing tax haven loopholes if it was also accompanied with a lower of the corporate tax rate. It looks like Obama is just searching for revenue.
Obama can search high and low for more revenue streams, but he will never be able to match the revenues with spending at the current levels. It's simply unsustainable and he wouldn't be able to fulfill his promises of not imposing taxes on the lower and middle classes. So, he's engaging in voodoo leftist economics to make it "work," which is to say that he's going to pass the buck and hope no one notices that his economic plan is all out of whack.
| 839 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 4, 2009 8:27:13am |
re: #835 Killgore Trout
I think a zero tax rate is a little unrealistic. I would be more in favor of closing tax haven loopholes if it was also accompanied with a lower of the corporate tax rate. It looks like Obama is just searching for revenue.
Why? The taxes the gov't would collect from the new jobs created PLUS the savings from those people now not on the gov't dole would MORE than make up for any "loss" in collecting the taxes from the corporation
Again ,,,, it's to create JOBS ,, which creates TAXPAYERS ,,, which creates MORE jobs (all those people now able to buy stuff)
| 840 |
Spider Mensch Mon, May 4, 2009 8:27:22am |
re: #812 vxbush
I can appreciate your concerns. But having a college degree isn't as cut-and-dried an indicator of ability as you might think. Yes, it is good to have, but often *where* you got your degree is seen as more important.
As a veteran and a manager who occasionally (but not lately) does hire..if I have 2 applicants both equal in the interview, one has a 4 year college degree and the other did 4 years in marines, navy, AF, Army..Good conduct discharge, made acceptable rank in the 4 years, lets say E-5..you know who gets the job...the former military..and I know alot of managers who are not even ex military who think this way...main reason..reliability and dependability and a degree of discipline.
| 841 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 8:28:53am |
re: #829 sattv4u2
High corporate tax rates never made sense to me. If the taxes a corporation pays are lowered, then the corporation operate at lower costs, making it more competitive and more profitable than a corporation in a higher tax environment. Lower taxes would create more jobs at higher salaries, and consequently, higher income tax revenue for the gov't.
Obama is banging the paranoid class warfare drum with this initiative. Denial, distortion and projection in action.
| 842 |
yma o hyd Mon, May 4, 2009 8:29:14am |
re: #834 HoosierHoops
Thanks Dear..BTW..Do you know where Sefton Park Estates are outside of London? We have an office in the Estates..I should be there in Oct. working on the server farm..I'll give you a call! *wink* I love Europe.
Sorry, no, haven't the faintest idead - and my London ABC is a tad outdated ;-(
Yeah, gissa call, that would be fab!
| 843 |
Nevergiveup Mon, May 4, 2009 8:29:26am |
Mullen: 'Gravely Concerned' About Threat to Pakistan Even as Nukes Remain Safe for Now
The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said he is comfortable with the ability of the Pakistani military to protect nuclear weapons from Taliban terrorists but is "gravely concerned" with the progress of Taliban militants to seize power in the Northwest Frontier Province that borders Afghanistan.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
And having Obama in the White House makes me feel so..........
| 844 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 8:29:38am |
More on Obama's wonderful corporate tax "reform" idea, which Killgore thinks is meant to target George Soros (I just love that):
Chris Edwards and Dan Mitchell provided an excellent explanation of the deferral issue in thier book Global Tax Revolution. The U.S. is one of the few OECD countries that formally taxes its corporations on the profits they make overseas. It is true that deferral is a loophole in this system; companies don't pay the tax unless they repatriate the profits. But the right reform would be to scrap the tax on foreign profits and return to a "territorial" system. As Edwards and Mitchell explain:
Under a pure [system of worldwide taxation], for example, a U.S. company would pay a 35 percent tax on a factory it owned in Ireland. Meanwhile, a French company would pay only the 12.5 percent Irish tax on profits at a factory in Ireland because France has a territorial tax system. The effect would be that U.S. companies would face a severe disadvantage in the Irish market compared with companies from France and elsewhere.
Of all the "simplifications" that our tax code badly needs, Obama has (of course) picked the one that would have the most adverse effect on U.S. businesses — in the midst of a recession, no less.
| 845 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 8:29:46am |
re: #803 Liberal Classic
- Wants the U.S. to "lead the world" in the proportion of college graduates
Heck. That's easy. Graduate everybody. Hell, don't even make thm go to class!
We'll be NUMBER 1!
| 846 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 8:30:07am |
FDR's Folly: How Roosevelt and His New Deal Prolonged the Great Depression
“Admirers of FDR credit his New Deal with restoring the American economy after the disastrous contraction of 1929—33. Truth to tell–as Powell demonstrates without a shadow of a doubt–the New Deal hampered recovery from the contraction, prolonged and added to unemployment, and set the stage for ever more intrusive and costly government. Powell’s analysis is thoroughly documented, relying on an impressive variety of popular and academic literature both contemporary and historical.”
–Milton Friedman, Nobel Laureate, Hoover Institution
Here we go again.
| 847 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 8:30:27am |
re: #838 lawhawk
Obama can search high and low for more revenue streams, but he will never be able to match the revenues with spending at the current levels.
That's the long and short of it. Something has to give, and it ought to be the government spending spree.
| 848 |
soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 8:31:02am |
re: #829 sattv4u2
PEOPLE ,, I have a HOT FLASH for you
CORPORATIONS don't really pay ANY 'taxes". Whatever goods and/ or services they provide are sold in the open marketplace. They add the "cost" of those taxes to what you buy or get serviced
Again ,, ZERO corporate tax offer to ANY existing company that relocates TO the USA.
THATS how you "create" jobs ,, NOT by some gov't program
Don't tell the 0bamabot's. That would be blasphemous to the 0's followers.
| 849 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 4, 2009 8:31:30am |
re: #835 Killgore Trout
I think a zero tax rate is a little unrealistic.
Let me explain it this way. MANY companies have LEFT the USA for lower tax rates in other countries (see Ireland). RESULT,, job losses in the USA, people complaining about outsourcing,,, higher unemployment,, lower wages offered here now because more candidates for each job available
Let the USA be the place where companies outsource TOO, instead of FROM
| 850 |
midwestgak Mon, May 4, 2009 8:32:45am |
Just a quick question. Did any lizards or anyone they know ever contract SARS?
Hong Kong hotel locked down after swine flu case. Oh, sorry, no swine flu, H1N1.
| 851 |
soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 8:32:49am |
re: #847 Sharmuta
That's the long and short of it. Something has to give, and it ought to be the government spending spree.
0bama has too much payback to do to stop spending, and the Congresscritters are no better.
| 852 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 8:32:52am |
Does anyone know what the operational budget for Congress is?
| 853 |
Nevergiveup Mon, May 4, 2009 8:33:00am |
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday ordered a federal appeals court to re-examine its ruling in favor of CBS Corp. in a legal fight over entertainer Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
What the hell is wrong with our legal system that shit like this clogs it up? And anyway her breast were nothing to look at!
| 854 |
eschew_obfuscation Mon, May 4, 2009 8:33:06am |
re: #840 Spider Mensch
As a veteran and a manager who occasionally (but not lately) does hire..if I have 2 applicants both equal in the interview, one has a 4 year college degree and the other did 4 years in marines, navy, AF, Army..Good conduct discharge, made acceptable rank in the 4 years, lets say E-5..you know who gets the job...the former military..and I know alot of managers who are not even ex military who think this way...main reason..reliability and dependability and a degree of discipline.
I used to do a lot of hiring in the IT field. It is interesting that the reasons we fire someone are usually not related to the reasons they were hired in the first place.
They get fired for being unreliable, lazy, incompetent, obstructionist....
We often hire them for length of experience, education, gender/race....
You make a good point about reliablity and discipline.
| 855 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 8:33:30am |
re: #851 soxfan4life
0bama has too much payback to do to stop spending, and the Congresscritters are no better.
I know. What things ought to be and what they will be are rarely similar.
| 856 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 8:33:44am |
re: #843 Nevergiveup
And having Obama in the White House makes me feel so..........
Relax... Obama says "Pawkeetawn" instead of Bush's "Paak'staan". It's so much better now.
| 857 |
Nevergiveup Mon, May 4, 2009 8:33:52am |
re: #852 Sharmuta
Does anyone know what the operational budget for Congress is?
If it's more than $1.50 we are not getting our monies worth?
| 858 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 8:34:32am |
re: #857 Nevergiveup
If it's more than $1.50 we are not getting our monies worth?
I imagine just running that joint is expensive. I wonder how green they are.
| 859 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 8:34:39am |
re: #835 Killgore Trout
"Corporate" taxes are, of course, merely a pass-through. If you raise US corporate tax rates (either explicitly or implicitly), one or more of the following happens to US corporations:
1) They pass the added cost along to consumers;
2) They're forced to cut wages and benefits of their workers;
3) They're forced to cut dividends and distributions to shareholders (including things like pension funds);
and/or
4) The added costs prevent them from being able to compete, so they either relocate ENTIRELY overseas, or succumb to foreign competition.
| 860 |
Russkilitlover Mon, May 4, 2009 8:35:31am |
Intimidation by WH? Nah! Could Never Happen
"The charge is completely untrue," said White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, "and there's obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way."
Ha! Says WH, you can't prove nothin'.
| 861 |
ladycatnip Mon, May 4, 2009 8:35:51am |
CFP has a bombshell article: The President Who Hates His Country.
Why is it we're only reading this stuff from Canada and Britain's newspapers?
| 862 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 4, 2009 8:35:54am |
re: #852 Sharmuta
Does anyone know what the operational budget for Congress is?
Do you mean for support staff ,, office supplies ,,, franking ,,, utilities ,,, etc ?
| 863 |
soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 8:36:13am |
re: #856 Kenneth
Relax... Obama says "Pawkeetawn" instead of Bush's "Paak'staan". It's so much better now.
Isn't it so much better now that we have such an educated man and eloquent speaker in the White House./ white smoke
| 865 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 8:36:27am |
re: #850 midwestgak
I know a nurse who worked at the hospital in Toronto that was hit with SARS. She happened to be on vacation the week the outbreak it. Several of her friends & colleagues died and she felt horribly guilty for being on vacation.
| 866 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 4, 2009 8:37:14am |
There's a new documentary out about Saint Pancake:
[Link: www.imdb.com...]
| 867 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, May 4, 2009 8:37:16am |
re: #862 sattv4u2
Do you mean for support staff ,, office supplies ,,, franking ,,, utilities ,,, etc ?
What is that? I hope it has nothing to do with a certain Massachusetts Representative.
| 868 |
soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 8:37:42am |
re: #861 ladycatnip
CFP has a bombshell article: The President Who Hates His Country.
Why is it we're only reading this stuff from Canada and Britain's newspapers?
Because all of our newspeople are kool-aid drinking droolers.
| 870 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 8:38:01am |
re: #840 Spider Mensch
As a veteran and a manager who occasionally (but not lately) does hire..if I have 2 applicants both equal in the interview, one has a 4 year college degree and the other did 4 years in marines, navy, AF, Army..Good conduct discharge, made acceptable rank in the 4 years, lets say E-5..you know who gets the job...the former military..and I know alot of managers who are not even ex military who think this way...main reason..reliability and dependability and a degree of discipline.
Sure. I totally get that. But I've seen two people, each with bachelors in the same field, from two different institutions and the one with the degree from the "big name" school got the job. Not always, of course, but enough to make me raise my eyebrows. And yet I've talked to kids who have gone to Ivy League schools, and they were taught horribly. Some of my fellow grad students couldn't do the work, even though that had math degrees from Ivy League schools.
| 871 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 8:38:08am |
re: #860 Russkilitlover
Intimidation by WH? Nah! Could Never Happen
Ha! Says WH, you can't prove nothin'.
Jake Tapper continues to surprise the hell out of me (in a good way).
| 872 |
midwestgak Mon, May 4, 2009 8:38:17am |
re: #865 Kenneth
Didn't get the response I was expecting. sorry {Kenneth}
| 873 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 8:38:44am |
re: #858 Sharmuta
I imagine just running that joint is expensive. I wonder how green they are.
I'd love to be a Congressman with a big budget for my staff..My Entourage would rock..A few geeks..A few bouncers..A few PR geniuses...Micheal Fox as Chief of staff...Angela Jolie as my global outreach coordinator..
You guys are so lucky I didn't run...
/
| 874 |
ladycatnip Mon, May 4, 2009 8:38:54am |
#863 soxfan4life
Isn't it so much better now that we have such an educated man and eloquent speaker in the White House./ white smoke
Don't give him too much credit or we'll hurt Teleprompter's feelings.
| 875 |
soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 8:39:47am |
re: #867 Honorary Yooper
What is that? I hope it has nothing to do with a certain Massachusetts Representative.
Free postage to mail correspondence to constituents, of course in the digital era they can use email. But don't experct them to give up anything themselves. Their franking privelege saves money on campaign literature.
| 876 |
VegasRick Mon, May 4, 2009 8:40:03am |
re: #863 soxfan4life
Isn't it so much better now that we have such an educated
manteleprompter and eloquent speaking ventriloquists dummy in the White House./ white smoke
| 878 |
sattv4u2 Mon, May 4, 2009 8:40:44am |
re: #867 Honorary Yooper
What is that? I hope it has nothing to do with a certain Massachusetts Representative.
free mail ,,,(which Barney also likes !)
| 879 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 8:41:14am |
The Taliban's Atomic Threat - by John Bolton
The extremists who harbored al Qaeda could get control of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal
At his press conference Wednesday evening, President Barack Obama endorsed Pakistan's official position that it has secure control over its nuclear-weapons arsenal. Mr. Obama said he was "gravely concerned" about the situation there, but "confident that the nuclear arsenal will remain out of militant hands."
His words are not reassuring in light of the Taliban's military and political gains throughout Pakistan. Our security, and that of friends and allies world-wide, depends critically on preventing more adversaries, especially ones with otherworldly ideologies, from acquiring nuclear weapons. Unless there is swift, decisive action against the Islamic radicals there, Pakistan faces two very worrisome scenarios.
RTWFT!
| 880 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 8:41:27am |
re: #862 sattv4u2
Do you mean for support staff ,, office supplies ,,, franking ,,, utilities ,,, etc ?
Yes- just running the place- day to day operations.
| 881 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 8:42:08am |
re: #870 vxbush
But I've seen two people, each with bachelors in the same field, from two different institutions and the one with the degree from the "big name" school got the job.
Reminds me of when I was a "summer associate" at a big NYC law firm. One of our summer associate, er, associates was a young woman from Yale Law School. She was a total disaster, by all accounts... lazy, abrasive, and did poor work. Yet two of the "hiring partners" were overheard saying, in effect, "well... we have to give her a permanent offer, she's from Yale." She lasted about two years at the firm, before being shown the door.
I think the unwarranted prestige given to "big name" schools is nothing short of scandalous. (And I went to "big name" schools myself, so this is not a "sour grapes" thing.)
| 882 |
avanti Mon, May 4, 2009 8:43:00am |
re: #862 sattv4u2
Do you mean for support staff ,, office supplies ,,, franking ,,, utilities ,,, etc ?
Each office has a budget of about 1.5 million for staff salaries, travel, and all office expenses.
| 883 |
soxfan4life Mon, May 4, 2009 8:43:01am |
re: #877 taxfreekiller
Iron Fist
you will like this one we got in the hopper down in Austin Tx.
via
Leo Berman, State Rep. (R)
HB-1863[Link:
| 884 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 8:43:38am |
re: #881 Occasional Reader
Reminds me of when I was a "summer associate" at a big NYC law firm. One of our summer associate, er, associates was a young woman from Yale Law School. She was a total disaster, by all accounts... lazy, abrasive, and did poor work. Yet two of the "hiring partners" were overheard saying, in effect, "well... we have to give her a permanent offer, she's from Yale." She lasted about two years at the firm, before being shown the door.
I think the unwarranted prestige given to "big name" schools is nothing short of scandalous. (And I went to "big name" schools myself, so this is not a "sour grapes" thing.)
It's one of the reasons why I like seeing HR departments having applicants answer questions on websites. It levels the playing field a lot.
| 885 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 8:43:57am |
re: #873 HoosierHoops
I'd love to be a Congressman with a big budget for my staff..My Entourage would rock..A few geeks..A few bouncers..A few PR geniuses...Micheal Fox as Chief of staff...Angela Jolie as my global outreach coordinator..
You guys are so lucky I didn't run...
/
Why is everyone so taken with this woman? I have little to no respect for her. She's a weirdo- with a crush on her brother.
| 886 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, May 4, 2009 8:44:23am |
re: #875 soxfan4life
Free postage to mail correspondence to constituents, of course in the digital era they can use email. But don't experct them to give up anything themselves. Their franking privelege saves money on campaign literature.
That should be an out-of-pocket expense for them, not on the taxpayer dime.
| 887 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 8:44:41am |
re: #882 avanti
Each office has a budget of about 1.5 million for staff salaries, travel, and all office expenses.
What about costs for the building itself? It's staff, it's utilities, etc.?
| 888 |
VegasRick Mon, May 4, 2009 8:44:55am |
re: #885 Sharmuta
Why is everyone so taken with this woman? I have little to no respect for her. She's a weirdo- with a crush on her brother.
I think it's the lips.
/
| 890 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, May 4, 2009 8:45:43am |
re: #882 avanti
Each office has a budget of about 1.5 million for staff salaries, travel, and all office expenses.
At that rate, that's 1.5 million times 535 (Senate plus House) offices.
That's a grand total of 802.5 million dollars. I think we should trim that back.
| 891 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 8:45:50am |
re: #861 ladycatnip
CFP has a bombshell article: The President Who Hates His Country.
Why is it we're only reading this stuff from Canada and Britain's newspapers?
The U.S. papers are hoping to get a bailout from BHO?
| 892 |
midwestgak Mon, May 4, 2009 8:45:55am |
His Obamaness: Taxes are an obligation of citizenship. Tax code is full of corporate loopholes. Illegal tax breaks overseas to cease. One strength of economy is global reach of businesses. Can't reward American companies operating overseas. Changes are designed to restore order to tax code.
HOW DO YOU RESTORE ORDER TO A TAX CODE THAT INHERENTLY HAS NO ORDER?
Gibberish.
| 893 |
ladycatnip Mon, May 4, 2009 8:45:58am |
#879 Kenneth
The Taliban's Atomic Threat - by John Bolton
The extremists who harbored al Qaeda could get control of Pakistan's nuclear arsenalAt his press conference Wednesday evening, President Barack Obama endorsed Pakistan's official position that it has secure control over its nuclear-weapons arsenal. Mr. Obama said he was "gravely concerned" about the situation there, but "confident that the nuclear arsenal will remain out of militant hands."
His words are not reassuring in light of the Taliban's military and political gains throughout Pakistan. Our security, and that of friends and allies world-wide, depends critically on preventing more adversaries, especially ones with otherworldly ideologies, from acquiring nuclear weapons. Unless there is swift, decisive action against the Islamic radicals there, Pakistan faces two very worrisome scenarios.
This man we call our president is a very dangerous man, not just to our country, but to the world. Wonder when people are going to get it.
| 894 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 8:46:32am |
re: #882 avanti
Each office has a budget of about 1.5 million for staff salaries, travel, and all office expenses.
1.5 Million! That's it? How the hell do you expect me to do the work of the people for 1.5 Million for staffing? Jeez!
Isn't there anything in the Stimulus package for staff upgrades?
/
| 895 |
eschew_obfuscation Mon, May 4, 2009 8:46:35am |
re: #870 vxbush
Sure. I totally get that. But I've seen two people, each with bachelors in the same field, from two different institutions and the one with the degree from the "big name" school got the job. Not always, of course, but enough to make me raise my eyebrows. And yet I've talked to kids who have gone to Ivy League schools, and they were taught horribly. Some of my fellow grad students couldn't do the work, even though that had math degrees from Ivy League schools.
This is another bit of anecdotal evidence indicating that ivy league schools are tough to get into/expensive, but once you're in, they don't want any failures, so the standards for graduation are low.
I have a daughter going to a 4th tier, predominately black law school as (I believe) an affirmative action admission who may come out with a better legal education than Harvard graduates.
(.... an unproven allegation on my part ;~)
| 896 |
MandyManners Mon, May 4, 2009 8:47:05am |
re: #831 Kenneth
The basic premise of socialist government, as Obama famously explained to a plumber in Ohio last fall, is to take wealth away from the more successful people in society, and “spread that wealth around.” This will always be a more attractive proposition to the people serving as the bread, than the people being used as the peanut butter. The creators of wealth must be forced to participate in the system, far beyond the point where a sense of civic duty or compassion for the downtrodden would keep them in line. After all, nearly half the country currently pays no income taxes, and they’re not all “downtrodden” people deserving of charity. In fact, the socialist dream is to reach the point where over half the population pays no taxes, and will thus be inclined to support all expansions of government power. You can’t get to the magic 51% of tax dependents just by using hungry orphans as props.
Increasing levels of coercion are necessary to expand the socialist system, and keep wealth producers trapped within it. To maintain popular support, the socialist needs voters to stay angry at designated class enemies. The Obama style of total government control over private businesses tends to turn feral with frightening speed, because it attempts to preserve the illusion of private enterprise, even as the “entrepreneurs” are enslaved to the total state.
| 897 |
avanti Mon, May 4, 2009 8:47:07am |
re: #887 Sharmuta
What about costs for the building itself? It's staff, it's utilities, etc.?
I have no idea about the cost to maintain the capital buildings.
| 898 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 8:47:09am |
re: #885 Sharmuta
Why is everyone so taken with this woman? I have little to no respect for her. She's a weirdo- with a crush on her brother.
Who's her brother?
| 900 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 8:47:24am |
re: #884 vxbush
It's one of the reasons why I like seeing HR departments having applicants answer questions on websites. It levels the playing field a lot.
And I'd much rather hire a striver from a so-called "second tier" law school who got top grades, then someone middle of the pack from Yale who knows all about Post-Colonial Feminist Lesbian Critical Torts Theory, but is incapable of writing a client memo. And if I were hiring litigators, I'd want to look at someone who went straight into military JAG, and got thrown almost straight into arguing cases in front of judges.
| 901 |
Nevergiveup Mon, May 4, 2009 8:47:29am |
re: #893 ladycatnip
#879 Kenneth
This man we call our president is a very dangerous man, not just to our country, but to the world. Wonder when people are going to get it.
While i wish for the best, but probably not till it's to late. Call me a pessimist.
| 902 |
Honorary Yooper Mon, May 4, 2009 8:48:01am |
re: #890 Honorary Yooper
At that rate, that's 1.5 million times 535 (Senate plus House) offices.
That's a grand total of 802.5 million dollars. I think we should trim that back.
Remember, that's just the ones from the states. If we include the territorial and commonwealth representatives (who cannot and do not vote), the number grows a bit.
| 903 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 8:48:46am |
re: #892 midwestgak
Taxes are an obligation of citizenship.
I do agree with that concept, by the way, and I think conservatives tend to overstate their case (and look foolish in the process) when they object to it. The question is, how MUCH taxation.
| 904 |
Sharmuta Mon, May 4, 2009 8:48:56am |
re: #898 Ward Cleaver
Who's her brother?
re: #899 ladycatnip
#885 Sharmuta
Who's her brother?
[Link: www.popsugar.com...]
| 905 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 8:48:58am |
re: #895 eschew_obfuscation
This is another bit of anecdotal evidence indicating that ivy league schools are tough to get into/expensive, but once you're in, they don't want any failures, so the standards for graduation are low.
I have a daughter going to a 4th tier, predominately black law school as (I believe) an affirmative action admission who may come out with a better legal education than Harvard graduates.
(.... an unproven allegation on my part ;~)
No doubt, no doubt. I can tell you that where I was a student, you had to earn your grades. No grade inflation. And when I taught at the same school for a year, I was just as hard.
| 906 |
Russkilitlover Mon, May 4, 2009 8:49:08am |
re: #871 Occasional Reader
Jake Tapper continues to surprise the hell out of me (in a good way).
He does seem to get it and not be as willfully credulous as his peers in the press.
When I heard Obama castigating the investment firm(s) who were balking at the Chrysler deal, I immediately thought he's talking about regular folks who have their retirements at stake - teachers, nurses, retirees - people who wanted a low risk investment and will not have 29 cents on the dollar shoved down their throats.
No one in the press called him on it. Go Jake.
| 907 |
yochanan Mon, May 4, 2009 8:49:35am |
re: #812 vxbush
would that be community college? everyone in the community can go?
| 908 |
ladycatnip Mon, May 4, 2009 8:49:41am |
#896 Mandy Manners
Updings - I'd give you more if I could.
| 909 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 8:50:00am |
re: #877 taxfreekiller
Iron Fist
you will like this one we got in the hopper down in Austin Tx.
via
Leo Berman, State Rep. (R)
HB-1863[Link: www.texasonline.com...]
end around the Fed.'s
it is going to piss them off the loon libs big timelater
| 910 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 8:50:00am |
re: #900 Occasional Reader
And I'd much rather hire a striver from a so-called "second tier" law school who got top grades, then someone middle of the pack from Yale who knows all about Post-Colonial Feminist Lesbian Critical Torts Theory, but is incapable of writing a client memo. And if I were hiring litigators, I'd want to look at someone who went straight into military JAG, and got thrown almost straight into arguing cases in front of judges.
Exactly. A degree doesn't mean anything, regardless of what school it's from. Show me the ability.
| 911 |
Nevergiveup Mon, May 4, 2009 8:50:13am |
re: #903 Occasional Reader
I do agree with that concept, by the way, and I think conservatives tend to overstate their case (and look foolish in the process) when they object to it. The question is, how MUCH taxation.
Speaking of which, did anyone else see the crazy Judge Nepalitano advocating for getting rid of the income tax all together?
| 912 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 8:50:52am |
re: #907 yochanan
would that be community college? everyone in the community can go?
No, I went to the university, which was more of a commuter school because it had no dorms on campus. Back then, it didn't give out any graduate degrees. That's changed lately. But it was tough.
| 914 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 8:52:42am |
re: #911 Nevergiveup
Speaking of which, did anyone else see the crazy Judge Nepalitano advocating for getting rid of the income tax all together?
I did not, but I don't think the idea of replacing income tax with consumption tax is necessarily "crazy". I'm certainly not convinced by it, but it's worth exploring.
| 915 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 8:52:56am |
re: #913 Iron Fist
I can't abide being in a tall building, not even when I'm in a room with no windows.
So I guess the following are not on your vacation list:
* Sears Tower
* Eiffel Tower
* St. Louis Arch
:D
| 916 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 8:53:24am |
re: #885 Sharmuta
Why is everyone so taken with this woman? I have little to no respect for her. She's a weirdo- with a crush on her brother.
I'll say this for Angela.. I first saw her as a insane girl in the movie girl interrupted.. Never heard of her before..That woman has acting chops..I was blown away..She hasn't done anything since to match her performance in that movie...But yes..she is smoking hot..She is a good actor..and wants to adopt all of Africa...I'll go on record and say I like her..Don't understand her..But..She is good people in my eyes
| 917 |
yma o hyd Mon, May 4, 2009 8:53:32am |
re: #879 Kenneth
The Taliban's Atomic Threat - by John Bolton
The extremists who harbored al Qaeda could get control of Pakistan's nuclear arsenalRTWFT!
Absolutely - RTWFT!
| 918 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 8:54:32am |
re: #892 midwestgak
His Obamaness: Taxes are an obligation of citizenship. Tax code is full of corporate loopholes. Illegal tax breaks overseas to cease. One strength of economy is global reach of businesses. Can't reward American companies operating overseas. Changes are designed to restore order to tax code.
HOW DO YOU RESTORE ORDER TO A TAX CODE THAT INHERENTLY HAS NO ORDER?
Gibberish.
Corporations are not citizens, they are entities owned by shareholdes.
Loopholes have been created by congress, not corporations.
Having funds offshore isn't currently illegal, that's why they do it.
Can't reward companies from operating over seas? WTF? Who the fuck are we supposed to sell to? Most of my companies revenue is from overseas!
Order? Tax code? Mutually exclusive concepts.
Obuffoon!
| 919 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 8:54:44am |
re: #904 Sharmuta
[Link: www.popsugar.com...]
The pictures of her and her brother together (at the IMDb) are just plain creepy.
| 920 |
avanti Mon, May 4, 2009 8:55:00am |
re: #894 HoosierHoops
1.5 Million! That's it? How the hell do you expect me to do the work of the people for 1.5 Million for staffing? Jeez!
Isn't there anything in the Stimulus package for staff upgrades?
/
No, but they get a cost of living increase every year. That was the "raise" the right talked about, but congress claimed they needed more money to spend more time helping voters at home. BTW, most in congress don't spend it all, and they have to account for what's spent, the rest goes back.
The money spent on offices is chump change compared to even one small pork barrel project.
| 921 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 8:56:09am |
re: #913 Iron Fist
I can't abide being in a tall building, not even when I'm in a room with no windows.
Phobias are truly bizarre. Particularly when, like this, they only set in later on in life.
Or, the opposite... My wife's brother had a childhood phobia of, get this, roller skates. He couldn't get near a pair as a small child without bursting into tears. Then, one day when he was about 8 or 9, he suddenly put on a pair and started skating around.
| 922 |
Russkilitlover Mon, May 4, 2009 8:56:20am |
re: #915 vxbush
So I guess the following are not on your vacation list:
* Sears Tower
* Eiffel Tower
* St. Louis Arch:D
I can't even handle the Dumbo ride at Disneyland. And don't get me started on glass elevators.
| 923 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 4, 2009 8:56:49am |
re: #916 HoosierHoops
I really liked her in Gia. Well, maybe in a couple of scenes in Gia. ;)
| 924 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 8:56:50am |
re: #893 ladycatnip
#879 Kenneth
This man we call our president is a very dangerous man, not just to our country, but to the world. Wonder when people are going to get it.
IF they get it, it will be after Al Qaeda has their hands on Pakistani nukes.
| 925 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 8:56:54am |
re: #919 Ward Cleaver
The pictures of her and her brother together (at the IMDb) are just plain creepy.
I don't suppose you'd like to one? You've piqued my curiosity.
| 926 |
FrogMarch Mon, May 4, 2009 8:57:35am |
re: #838 lawhawk
Obama can search high and low for more revenue streams, but he will never be able to match the revenues with spending at the current levels. It's simply unsustainable and he wouldn't be able to fulfill his promises of not imposing taxes on the lower and middle classes. So, he's engaging in voodoo leftist economics to make it "work," which is to say that he's going to pass the buck and hope no one notices that his economic plan is all out of whack.
All while Obama kills the goose that laid the golden egg. Kill private sector jobs - you kill revenue. Punish the productive, you get less of it.
| 928 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 8:58:14am |
re: #922 Russkilitlover
I can't even handle the Dumbo ride at Disneyland. And don't get me started on glass elevators.
Oh, dear! I love to be up high and look at the horizon. When I was able to, walking up the small mountains so I could look over Colorado out to the horizon was amazing.
| 929 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 8:58:28am |
re: #922 Russkilitlover
I can't even handle the Dumbo ride at Disneyland. And don't get me started on glass elevators.
I guess this is out of the question?
A glass-bottom Skydeck for Sears Tower
Visitors won't have to crane their necks to see straight down from the Sears Tower Skydeck when the building adds four glass-bottomed balconies, nicknamed "The Ledge," to its 50-mile views come June.
| 930 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 8:59:01am |
re: #927 buzzsawmonkey
So, I hear that there's a new movie out about transgendered superheroes. "Ex-Men," or something.
And yet, no transhuman superheroes. I suppose it's hard if your brain is stored in a computer.
| 932 |
KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 8:59:09am |
re: #919 Ward Cleaver
The pictures of her and her brother together (at the IMDb) are just plain creepy.
The Addams Family *clap*clap*
| 934 |
OldLineTexan Mon, May 4, 2009 8:59:24am |
re: #911 Nevergiveup
Speaking of which, did anyone else see the crazy Judge Nepalitano advocating for getting rid of the income tax all together?
Was the whole country crazy before Wilson instituted it (IIRC) to pay for WW1?
| 936 |
Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 9:00:08am |
re: #929 JCM
I saw that story... now, me, I think that would be wildly cool.
| 937 |
SixDegrees Mon, May 4, 2009 9:00:11am |
| 938 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 9:00:17am |
re: #923 Mad Al-Jaffee
I really liked her in Gia. Well, maybe in a couple of scenes in Gia. ;)
Yikes, she was skeezy in that movie (that big scab on her - ick!). I preferred (still do) Elizabeth Mitchell.
| 939 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 9:00:57am |
re: #923 Mad Al-Jaffee
I really liked her in Gia. Well, maybe in a couple of scenes in Gia. ;)
I liked her also in pushing tin...Angela..She is smoking hot..with great acting chops.. I give the guys the same kudo's.. I mean Denzil in Training Day..Hell of a handsome man playing a hard core roll and pulling it off..
| 940 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 9:01:09am |
| 941 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 9:01:59am |
re: #923 Mad Al-Jaffee
I really liked her in Gia. Well, maybe in a couple of scenes in Gia. ;)
Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge.
| 942 |
Russkilitlover Mon, May 4, 2009 9:02:06am |
re: #928 vxbush
Oh, dear! I love to be up high and look at the horizon. When I was able to, walking up the small mountains so I could look over Colorado out to the horizon was amazing.
I've talked to other people about this fear of heights thing. We all have the same feeling - it's not so much you are afraid you will fall, it's that you feel like you will uncontrollably pitch yourself over. Really bizarre. Bridges are another problem. I feel like some force is just going to compel me to drive right off!
Different topic - the name of the 82% chocolate maker in San Francisco is Scharffen Berger......yummmmmmmmmmmm.
| 943 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 9:02:17am |
| 945 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 9:03:11am |
re: #942 Russkilitlover
I've talked to other people about this fear of heights thing. We all have the same feeling - it's not so much you are afraid you will fall, it's that you feel like you will uncontrollably pitch yourself over. Really bizarre. Bridges are another problem. I feel like some force is just going to compel me to drive right off!
Different topic - the name of the 82% chocolate maker in San Francisco is Scharffen Berger......yummmmmmmmmmmm.
How odd, and yet interesting. So if we put wires on you and tied you down, you'd be okay?
Scharffen Berger--good choice. I haven't had any of theirs in a while. I must get some before too long.
| 947 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 9:05:15am |
re: #936 Occasional Reader
I saw that story... now, me, I think that would be wildly cool.
I did high angle rescue, I look up and tall buildings and think about how much fun it would be to rappel down.
| 948 |
KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 9:05:36am |
| 949 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 9:06:32am |
re: #944 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
DENZEL!
Denzil is such a freaking stud! handsome..A beautiful smile a great actor..
I think most guys secretly wish they could be Denzil...
Hey look! Beyonce's cell just showed up on my Blackberry..Wonder what she is up too? LOL
| 950 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 9:06:33am |
re: #947 JCM
I did high angle rescue, I look up and tall buildings and think about how much fun it would be to rappel down.
I just get jealous when actors get to do wire work. It just sounds like so much fun.
| 951 |
opnion Mon, May 4, 2009 9:07:05am |
re: #926 FrogMarch
All while Obama kills the goose that laid the golden egg. Kill private sector jobs - you kill revenue. Punish the productive, you get less of it.
Obama seems to consider capitalism predatory. he even has a problem with the Constitution for among other things, having no provision for "Economic Justice", read wealth redistribution.
This Community Organizer is from the Saul Alinsky school of social engineering.
| 952 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 9:07:53am |
re: #942 Russkilitlover
I've talked to other people about this fear of heights thing. We all have the same feeling - it's not so much you are afraid you will fall, it's that you feel like you will uncontrollably pitch yourself over. Really bizarre. Bridges are another problem. I feel like some force is just going to compel me to drive right off!
Different topic - the name of the 82% chocolate maker in San Francisco is Scharffen Berger......yummmmmmmmmmmm.
Scharffen Berger! YUMMY!
Take a climbing class, rope up and and go for it!
Not making fun of fear of heights, maybe if you could controllably "Pitch yourself" over, it would be become a controllable thing. Just thinking out loud.
| 953 |
Kenneth Mon, May 4, 2009 9:08:02am |
| 954 |
ladycatnip Mon, May 4, 2009 9:08:13am |
Sharmuta,
I made the mistake of looking up Angelina with her brother at IMBd - I need to take a shower. Only one word describes it: incestuous.
| 955 |
vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 9:08:43am |
re: #950 vxbush
I just get jealous when actors get to do wire work. It just sounds like so much fun.
And speaking of which, the bungee work that Angelina Jolie did in "Lara Croft" was absolutely the coolest.
| 956 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 9:10:12am |
re: #950 vxbush
I just get jealous when actors get to do wire work. It just sounds like so much fun.
Our final class was off the big container cranes in Seattle. Climb up and rope down. Half way down switch to another rope, and then "rescue" your partner.
The fun part of that was we were just hanging, no wall or anything. Spinning was a huge problem, if you didn't think about the moves we'd start spinning and it was tough to stop.
| 957 |
Nevergiveup Mon, May 4, 2009 9:10:35am |
re: #914 Occasional Reader
I did not, but I don't think the idea of replacing income tax with consumption tax is necessarily "crazy". I'm certainly not convinced by it, but it's worth exploring.
I had to get to work, so I don't know were it lead. All I heard was getting rid of the income tax completely?
| 958 |
experiencedtraveller Mon, May 4, 2009 9:12:35am |
A little flu humor----
Pooh and Piglet wandered through the snowy woods on their way home.
Piglet grinned to himself thinking how lucky he was to have a best friend like Pooh.
Pooh thought to himself: "If the pig sneezes, he's f*ckin' dead."
| 959 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 9:12:36am |
re: #955 vxbush
And speaking of which, the bungee work that Angelina Jolie did in "Lara Croft" was absolutely the coolest.
I missed that movie series.. I thought the work she did in Girl interrupted deserved an Oscar..Hands down...
| 960 |
JCM Mon, May 4, 2009 9:13:09am |
re: #914 Occasional Reader
I did not, but I don't think the idea of replacing income tax with consumption tax is necessarily "crazy". I'm certainly not convinced by it, but it's worth exploring.
I'd prefer a consumption tax, but it would take a lot of educating of the masses on the benefits.
| 961 |
ladycatnip Mon, May 4, 2009 9:13:10am |
#926 FrogMarch
All while Obama kills the goose that laid the golden egg. Kill private sector jobs - you kill revenue. Punish the productive, you get less of it.
Kill private sector jobs - kill revenue - kill the economy - kill capitalism. That's the aim. Unfortunately if that happens we'll have global economic chaos, because most of the world benefits from a good, solid American economy.
| 963 |
SixDegrees Mon, May 4, 2009 9:18:44am |
re: #953 Kenneth
Georgia Peanut Farmer Accepts Marxist's Invitation to Harvest Coca Leaves
Gawd, what a tool.
| 964 |
BenghaziHoops Mon, May 4, 2009 9:21:02am |
re: #962 yochanan
FAKE BOOBS, FAKE LIPS?
Is Brad Pitt the luckiest guy in the world...Any one that disagrees is a liar...
You go boy!
| 966 |
quickjustice Mon, May 4, 2009 9:22:04am |
re: #792 avanti
You know nothing about the tax code. A "loophole" is a LEGAL provision that excuses a specific industry or company in a special category from paying taxes. It's not TAX EVASION, which is a crime. You're accusing businesses that took advantage of legal way provided in the the tax code to reduce their taxes of a crime. And that's a downding.
On the merits: a "loophole" is like a deduction. It's a legally permissible way to lower taxes. By eliminating them, you're raising taxes.
| 967 |
quickjustice Mon, May 4, 2009 9:26:35am |
re: #803 Liberal Classic
Student loans are the next bubble. In others words, the students aren't repaying them in increasing numbers, and default rates are increasing.
And many students are figuring out that their degrees aren't worth the price they're paying for them in economic terms. College degrees are a form of credentialing, replacing the old IQ tests. We need a better way to measure student ability than an overrated piece of paper.
| 969 |
Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 9:29:49am |
re: #966 quickjustice
You know nothing about the tax code. A "loophole" is a LEGAL provision that excuses a specific industry or company in a special category from paying taxes. It's not TAX EVASION, which is a crime. You're accusing businesses that took advantage of legal way provided in the the tax code to reduce their taxes of a crime. And that's a downding.
On the merits: a "loophole" is like a deduction. It's a legally permissible way to lower taxes. By eliminating them, you're raising taxes.
Loophole usually means a deduction that is available to some companies but not others. They generally skew the taxes paid. For example, maybe those who make sprockets can deduct some business expense that those who make cogs cannot.
Eliminating the loophole will raise taxes on sprocket makers, but prevent an overall tax increase that covers cog makers and everyone else.
Sometimes, this can make sense. For example, a government might decide that domestic oil and gas production is important to our security, and give a tax break (loophole) for domestically-produced oil and gas.
But most of them are based on who has the best lobbyists.
| 971 |
Buck Mon, May 4, 2009 9:48:06am |
re: #761 nbenhaim
so i think i know what little green footballs stands for....its just a complete guess but its the only thing i could come up with....
I was reading Joker One - basically a war story about a Marine in Iraq, and he mentioned a "little green baseball" and he was referring to grenade or some kind of explosive (i forget). Then I thought wow, little green football sure does describe a grenade pretty well.
So... grenades?
Most of us have stopped guessing.... but we do know it has to do with something that happened to Charles, in Japan... and I somehow remember a reference to hand gliding....
No grenades...
| 973 |
Charles Johnson Mon, May 4, 2009 5:20:35pm |
re: #447 starbroker
Morning all I am new here greetings to all!
No, you're not new. You previously had an account here under the name "aussie_dave" and you were blocked for posting insults, in a thread about creationism.
Now blocked again.
| 974 |
MagnaniomousCoward Mon, May 4, 2009 5:40:37pm |
re: #973 Charles
If it weren't for those meddling hamsters, I would have escaped the gaze of the lizard overlord. Darn it, foiled again.....
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