McKinney Appears on Far-Right Antisemitic Radio Show

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Former US Representative and last year’s Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney is getting more and more insane: Cynthia McKinney Interviewed on Far-Right Racist Radio Program.

Continuing to increase her political connections with the extreme far right (as I documented here and here), former U.S. Representative and 2008 Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney has appeared on a far-right, anti-Semitic internet radio program. On April 30, she was interviewed for over an hour on the “The Information Underground” by the program’s host, who calls himself “Ognir”.

Previous broadcasts of the show have titles such as “Jewish Domination and the World as we know it”, “Crimes of the Zionists”, “the Zionist Criminal Network”, “Jewish takeover of Christianity”, “Eugenocide”, “The International Jews Bankers” (sic), “Jewish Worldwide Propaganda System”, “Jews Behind Every Rock”, and “Jews Israel and 9/11”.

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338 comments

1 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:03:44am

Wow, this is true wraparound - from the left to the right.

2 vxbush  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:04:12am

Perhaps she's just a media hound desperate for attention. Makes sense, as a former congresscritter.

3 CIA Reject  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:04:23am

Why does this not surprise me? Just once I would like to be surprised by McKinney acting like a civilized human being.

4 Diamond Bullet  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:05:08am

Did they find those 5000 dead prisoners yet? Maybe she and OJ can team up to find the real killers.

5 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:05:20am

Crazy meets crazy, evil meets evil.

6 ladycatnip  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:05:56am

Why does this woman always look crazed?

7 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:05:59am

re: #4 Diamond Bullet

Did they find those 5000 dead prisoners yet? Maybe she and OJ can team up to find the real killers.

They need to search the database in those... CIA compuuuuters.

8 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:06:19am
9 pink freud  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:07:03am

She's desperate for relevance. It's a testament to her toxicity that this is how far down she had to go to find it.

10 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:07:24am

"Anybody like me? Howabout you? No? Okay, you sir? No? You?"

That has to get tiresome. Has to hurt after a while.

Sorry Cindy. Hope the bed you made is comfortable.

11 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:07:34am

She's just upset at Jooos because of what the Zionist Hair Rays did to her.
/

12 Salamantis  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:07:34am

How could she have cleared the time from her busy schedule to do this?

Doesn't she have some Capitol Hill security guards to assault, or something?

13 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:07:35am

She looks like a muppet in that picture!

14 Sharmuta  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:07:54am

Anti-Semitism makes for the most unlikely bedfellows.

15 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:07:58am
“Jews Behind Every Rock”,

So there are only fourteen million or so rocks in the world? Man, the things I learn from ranting lunatics!

16 Altermite  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:08:13am

Ye gods. That is one of the most unflattering pictures of a political person I have seen to date.

17 Max Darkside  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:08:19am

Ognir = Ringo backwards, eh (I'm a bit slow, or late to the party, perhaps). Any special meaning to a backwards Ringo?

18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:08:26am

re: #6 ladycatnip

Why does this woman always look crazed?

She doesn't always look that crazed. Charles just used her official photo.

19 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:08:33am

During my far-too-slow shift, as a youngster, from left to right, one of the deciding factors was the prevalence of absolute raving lunatics and similar kindred spirits on the left. Staring that kind of madness full in the face helped me to see that maybe the right wasn't such a bad place to be, after all.

20 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:08:43am

re: #2 vxbush

Perhaps she's just a media hound desperate for attention. Makes sense, as a former congresscritter.

The Buckwheat hairstyle should help in that regard.

21 Øyvind Strømmen  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:08:47am

As a Green (but not an American one), I find this to be both deplorable and really, really sad. Then I went on the forum of that radio show, and now I'm also feeling sick to the stomach.

22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:09:51am

re: #17 Max Darkside

Ognir = Ringo backwards, eh (I'm a bit slow, or late to the party, perhaps). Any special meaning to a backwards Ringo?

Yeah, play it front-wards it sounds like a shitty drum solo.

23 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:09:52am
24 yma o hyd  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:10:15am

The comments on the site Charles linked to for this topic are even worse.

25 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:10:39am

re: #6 ladycatnip

Why does this woman always look crazed?

She went to the Fork-in-Socket Salon the day that photograph was taken.

26 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:10:50am

re: #13 Mad Al-Jaffee

She looks like a muppet in that picture!

A reject muppet that had an accident near some scissors, and then went through a clothesdryer and then touched a van de Graff generator causing all its hair to stand on end, maybe.

27 Cicero05  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:11:13am

McKinney's issues with Jews have been apparent for a long time. I've observed that for diehard anti-Semites, their hatred of Jews tends to trump other political differences. This is predictable.

28 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:11:21am

I cannot think of a better way for a fascist organization to discredit itself than to have someone like McWhinney as a guest.
Thanks for shining the light, Charles, and btw - nice file photo!

29 S'latch  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:11:26am

The pot has completely cracked.

30 CIA Reject  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:11:35am

re: #25 MandyManners

She went to the Fork-in-Socket Salon the day that photograph was taken.

Hair fashions by Con-Ed.

31 Kenneth  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:11:36am

As the wise woman said, "All extremist ideologies meet at Jew Hating Central Station twice a day."

32 Raiderdan  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:11:51am

That picture is RAAAAAAACISSST!

33 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:11:52am

re: #24 yma o hyd

The comments on the site Charles linked to for this topic are even worse.

Adam's got a serious kook infestation going on there.

34 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:11:54am

re: #17 Max Darkside

Ognir = Ringo backwards, eh (I'm a bit slow, or late to the party, perhaps). Any special meaning to a backwards Ringo?

"Why, Ynnhoj Ognir, you look like someone just walked over your grave."

-Cod Yadilloh, Enotsbmot

35 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:12:00am
36 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:12:03am

I'm going to refrain from commenting since if I really said what I thought, I'd be booted outa here.

37 Steve Rogers  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:12:10am

How long before she blames the Jooooooooos for her deplorable hair style?

38 phillies2008  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:12:15am

The Green Party should be ashamed. She is enough to make me root for more pollution.

39 fish  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:12:22am

Could someone please explain to me what makes Anti Semites and racists "Far Right"?

I consider myself "far right" in the fact that I want secure boarders, little to no government involvement in my daily life, and a government that is dedicated to "forming a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"

What exactly is "right wing" about hating jews?

40 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:12:30am

Doesn't she know what they think of her as an African-American or is her hatred of Jews so great that she does not care?

41 Øyvind Strømmen  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:12:36am

re: #21 oslogin

As a Green (but not an American one), I find this to be both deplorable and really, really sad. Then I went on the forum of that radio show, and now I'm also feeling sick to the stomach.

There's even the old "Jews are poisoning the wells"-story there. Now with claims that Zionist- contaminated water is being transported into Mexico city.

42 dhg4  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:12:49am

re: #16 Altermite

Ye gods. That is one of the most unflattering pictures of a political person I have seen to date.

I think she stuck her finger into a socket instead of combing her hair.

43 CommonCents  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:13:10am

One thing that nutbags from both ends of the spectrum always seem to agree on is Israel. Who says the Jews can't bring people to together?

44 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:13:25am
45 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:13:44am

re: #40 MandyManners

Doesn't she know what they think of her as an African-American or is her hatred of Jews so great that she does not care?

It didn't stop Pam Geller from associating with neo-Nazis, why should Cynthia miss out on the fun?

46 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:13:53am

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

Well, "Ognir" sounds faux-Asgaardian, so that might have been an attraction. "Ringo," of course, refers to the fact that people like this are the circle of filthy residue left on an otherwise-pristine porcelain tub.

My impression was that, in the land of songwriting giants, Ringo is the purveyor of silly novelty songs.

Adam has three comments, all using the same Zionism=racism talking points.

47 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:13:56am
“Jews Behind Every Rock”

WHAT ABOUT THE TREES?!

48 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:14:27am

re: #47 MandyManners

WHAT ABOUT THE TREES?!

2 Jews behind every tree, 3 if it's a big one.

49 ORD neighbor  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:14:28am

Why did it take her so long to do this? I expected something like this sooner.

50 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:14:40am

re: #45 Occasional Reader

It didn't stop Pam Geller from associating with neo-Nazis, why should Cynthia miss out on the fun?

I just cannot wrap my brain around this.

51 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:14:46am

re: #47 MandyManners

WHAT ABOUT THE TREES?!

Now, now, musn't be hasty.

52 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:14:50am

re: #45 Occasional Reader

It didn't stop Pam Geller from associating with neo-Nazis, why should Cynthia miss out on the fun?

Useful idiots.

53 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:14:54am

Da Juice made her hair stick up like that.

/

54 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:15:33am

re: #53 Fat Jolly Penguin

Da Juice made her hair stick up like that.

/

OJ?

55 Van Helsing  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:15:59am

Why is this critter getting any coverage at all? Slow news day?

56 Øyvind Strømmen  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:15:59am

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

Well, "Ognir" sounds faux-Asgaardian, so that might have been an attraction. "Ringo," of course, refers to the fact that people like this are the circle of filthy residue left on an otherwise-pristine porcelain tub.

Ognir is old Norse for "possessions", if I remember correctly. It's been a while since I had old Norse in my Norwegian classes.

57 lawhawk  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:16:01am

"Getting more insane"?

She's already there. She's the poster child for insane.

And her insanity knows no bounds. Oh, and there's some evidence that Ognir is a white supremacist to boot (particularly in his associations and the circles he apparently travels in).

58 opnion  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:16:05am

It blew me away when some African American leaders broke bad on Jews.
During the Civil Rights Movement Jewish support was prominent.
McKinney is just doing the same thing. She is so addled that she doesn't realize that these people have no use for African Americans either.

59 theuglydougling  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:16:07am

Useful Idiot

60 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:16:19am

Speaking of which, I just saw Schindler's List on TV. I have seen it many times, but not in a long time. I forget it ended with "Jerusalem of Gold" and in Jerusalem.

61 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:16:25am
62 yma o hyd  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:16:33am

It won't do to write her off as a nutjob and grin about her inanities.
The sad fact is that far too many people who hear this will reason that she may be nuts, but, yaknow, no smoke without fire ...
This is how Jew Hate gets slowly dripped into people's consciousness.
She needs to be hauled voer the coals for Jew Hate - she mustn't get a free pass because she's a nut.

63 theuglydougling  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:10am

re: #52 Ward Cleaver

Oops. You beat me to it.

64 Randall Gross  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:10am

This is why fringe and third parties can't make it in the US, they will take anyone and any kooky ideas in their desperation that encourages paranoia.
Occasionally larger third parties do spawn some good ideas that can be stolen by the big two, but if you join them the stink never comes off.

65 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:19am

re: #28 Spare O'Lake

I cannot think of a better way for a fascist organization to discredit itself than to have someone like McWhinney as a guest.
Thanks for shining the light, Charles, and btw - nice file photo!

She reminds me of one of those rubber things ("green weenie"?) with eyes that pop out when you squeeze it.

66 LGoPs  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:26am

re: #56 oslogin

Ognir is old Norse for "possessions", if I remember correctly. It's been a while since I had old Norse in my Norwegian classes.

Ognir is full of Norseshit........

67 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:26am

re: #54 Mad Al-Jaffee

OJ?

Remember this?

68 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:28am

She's just another ignorant asshole who has to find a scape-goat for her failures.

69 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:48am

re: #51 Occasional Reader

Now, now, musn't be hasty.

Hurrrrrrom.

70 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:48am

Some folk may think the comments about her hair are shallow, but this is one more piece of evidence of the woman's madness. Anyone who willingly goes around looking like that is obviously deranged on some fundamental level.

You can't judge a book by its cover, but you can judge an author by his cover art; or something like that. Point is, the surface of things is a hint of the things themselves; the surface is their self-presentation, and her chosen self-presentation is madness itself.

71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:54am

Charles, I have to hand it to you. You've seeing this Batshittiness coming for months.

Moonbats to Batshit. Great. Just great.

72 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:55am

re: #59 theuglydougling

Useful Idiot

GMTA!

73 experiencedtraveller  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:17:57am

The problem is that "crazy" sells well in the "crazy political market sector".

/And there ain't never a recession in that market....

74 Cicero05  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:18:18am

I guess "Ognir" didn't see the McKinney interview as a good time to discuss his opinions about African Americans.

75 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:18:46am

re: #73 experiencedtraveller

The problem is that "crazy" sells well in the "crazy political market sector".

/And there ain't never a recession in that market....

How long before she sits in for Alex Jones?

76 Idle Drifter  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:03am

Where's the guys in white coats when you need them most?

77 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:03am

re: #55 Van Helsing

Why is this critter getting any coverage at all? Slow news day?

She is thought to be far-left so, her appearance on a far-right program is notable.

78 CommonCents  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:12am

My mother told me "people will judge you by the company you keep". Right or wrong, this site really reinforces that lesson.

79 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:25am

re: #62 yma o hyd

She needs to be hauled voer the coals for Jew Hate - she mustn't get a free pass because she's a nut.

Bravo.

Of course, just yesterday, the media in this country were gushing over the 90th birthday of a prominent Stalin apologist. So they seem to be handing out lots of free passes these days.

80 Cato  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:39am

I disagree.

Cynthia McKinney is no more insane than say, Caligula.

81 halldor  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:43am

re: #56 oslogin

Ognir is old Norse for "possessions", if I remember correctly. It's been a while since I had old Norse in my Norwegian classes.

No, it means "fears" - quite apt, really.

82 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:44am

re: #65 Ward Cleaver

She reminds me of one of those rubber things ("green weenie"?) with eyes that pop out when you squeeze it.

I dispute the comparison. Those green weenie things to which you refer are engineered for a purpose, are wildly popular, provide steady, albeit weird, employment for folks abroad, and steady profits for folk selling them here. They're useful, desirable, and contribute to the wealth of the nation.

83 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:47am

re: #39 fish

It's not... extreme antisemitism is a nut job out there psycho state of mind. The "far right" thing is just a smear against the right that's been repeated often enough that a lot of people have bought into the term "far right = Nazis" which is the furthest thing from the truth since real Nazis are socialists as well as racists and on the left of the spectrum and opposed to communists ever since Mr. Hilter decided he wanted a Russian villa for his summer retreat etc...

McKinney is a gift that keeps giving/

84 CommonCents  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:51am

re: #67 Fat Jolly Penguin

Remember this?

That is one of my all-time favorite pictures.

85 experiencedtraveller  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:53am

re: #75 Ward Cleaver

How long before she sits in for Alex Jones?

Seems that fool is actually growing his "business"...

86 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:19:55am

re: #76 Idle Drifter

Where's the guys in white coats when you need them most?

RACIST!

87 Sharmuta  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:20:07am

She's the left's answer to glenn beck.

88 Kragar  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:20:24am

re: #77 MandyManners

She is thought to be far-left so, her appearance on a far-right program is notable.

Moronic convergence. Far-left and Far-right meet up at evil.

89 Randall Gross  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:20:41am

Expect more bad craziness too - with the shift in political power post-election some of the nutballs will shift to get closer to power, some will shift to oppose the "establishment". It's going to be interesting the next couple of years. Strange and stranger bedfellows will abound.

90 midwestgak  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:20:58am

Cynthia McKinney will not run for president

wow, we dodged a bullet.////

91 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:21:31am

Late to the thread, but...

This is a perfect example of what is meant by "Moronic Convergence".

92 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:21:43am

re: #90 midwestgak

Cynthia McKinney will not run for president

wow, we dodged a bullet.////

Of course not; she'd have to run against president-for-life Obama.
/

93 debutaunt  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:21:46am

re: #84 CommonCents

That is one of my all-time favorite pictures.

The funny sect of jihad haters.

94 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:21:47am

re: #88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Moronic convergence. Far-left and Far-right meet up at evil Jew-Hate Junction.

Hat-Tip: a former Lizard.

95 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:22:00am

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

Cynthia McKinney is not "far-right"--she just wears her hair to look like a far-right wig.

A far-right Whig? Really, I doubt Charles James Fox would have had anything to do with her!

96 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:22:03am

re: #70 Guanxi88

Some folk may think the comments about her hair are shallow, but this is one more piece of evidence of the woman's madness. Anyone who willingly goes around looking like that is obviously deranged on some fundamental level.

You can't judge a book by its cover, but you can judge an author by his cover art; or something like that. Point is, the surface of things is a hint of the things themselves; the surface is their self-presentation, and her chosen self-presentation is madness itself.

If we start judging people's insanity by their hairstyle life as we know it would change dramatically.

97 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:22:11am
98 Salamantis  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:22:16am

re: #64 Thanos

This is why fringe and third parties can't make it in the US, they will take anyone and any kooky ideas in their desperation that encourages paranoia.
Occasionally larger third parties do spawn some good ideas that can be stolen by the big two, but if you join them the stink never comes off.

In 2008, she appeared at a third party presidential candidate press conference, along with Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Ralph Nader, and Bob Barr. 160,000 fools voted for her.

She also tried in December of that year to land the good ship Dignity on the Gazan shore (Israel wouldn't allow it).

99 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:22:37am

re: #90 midwestgak

Cynthia McKinney will not run for president

wow, we dodged a bullet.////

Our current President sat in Rev. Wrights pews for 20 years and did seem to notice anything wrong? What dodge? What Bullet?

100 CommonCents  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:22:38am

re: #90 midwestgak

Cynthia McKinney will not run for president

wow, we dodged a bullet.////

Not really. That unfortunate news means the loons that would have voted for her will now vote for [fill in Democrat name here].

101 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:22:46am

re: #85 experiencedtraveller

Seems that fool is actually growing his "business"...

Is it growth, or is it franchising? See, I envision the guy sort of spreading his bad crazy around ala the Colonel with KFC; every freaking town could have its own Prison Planet franchise.

102 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:23:28am

re: #96 Million Dollar Man

If we start judging people's insanity by their hairstyle life as we know it would change dramatically.

The hair's just an example. Anything bizarre like that is the tip-off. Consider guys with paisley ties; same idea. :)

103 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:24:00am

re: #96 Million Dollar Man

If we start judging people's insanity by their hairstyle life as we know it would change dramatically.

Possibly for the better, too. Have you seen what people are doing in terms of coiffure these days?

104 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:24:17am

re: #82 Guanxi88

I dispute the comparison. Those green weenie things to which you refer are engineered for a purpose, are wildly popular, provide steady, albeit weird, employment for folks abroad, and steady profits for folk selling them here. They're useful, desirable, and contribute to the wealth of the nation.

Sorry. :-( I apologize to hard-working green weenies everywhere.

105 midwestgak  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:24:20am

re: #100 CommonCents

Please note Sarc////

106 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:24:32am

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

Cuban seegars for everyone!

As Mark Steyn commented (quoting from memory), the media like to talk about people like Seegar as being "committed", "passionate" "activists", without exploring too closely what they're actively, passionately committed to.

107 CommonCents  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:24:41am

re: #103 Guanxi88

Ever feel like you are all alone, or talking to yourself?

108 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:24:58am
109 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:25:19am

re: #102 Guanxi88

The hair's just an example. Anything bizarre like that is the tip-off. Consider guys with paisley ties; same idea. :)

The new style in my neck of the woods is for kids to wear their shoes on the wrong feet.

/what kind of people are inheriting our world?

110 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:25:34am

re: #106 Occasional Reader

As Mark Steyn commented (quoting from memory), the media like to talk about people like Seegar as being "committed", "passionate" "activists", without exploring too closely what they're actively, passionately committed to.

Is he still into promoting kinky sex?

111 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:25:40am

re: #106 Occasional Reader

As Mark Steyn commented (quoting from memory), the media like to talk about people like Seegar Seeger as being "committed", "passionate" "activists", without exploring too closely what they're actively, passionately committed to.

PIMF

112 opnion  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:26:10am

re: #90 midwestgak

Cynthia McKinney will not run for president

wow, we dodged a bullet.////

Who will I vote for now?

113 CommonCents  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:26:10am

re: #105 midwestgak

Please note Sarc////

Please note my lack of Sarc////

114 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:26:25am

re: #107 CommonCents

Ever feel like you are all alone, or talking to yourself?

Nothing can shake the suspicion I have occasionally that this whole LGF thing is in fact some sort of elaborate therapy procedure, and that I'm really in the day-room at the state nervous hospital.

115 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:26:27am
116 theuglydougling  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:27:14am

re: #99 Nevergiveup

Our current President sat in Rev. Wrights pews for 20 years and did seem to notice anything wrong? What dodge? What Bullet?

But Dear Leader was able to use this experience to campaign on a really positive message.

/s

117 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:27:27am

re: #110 MandyManners

Is he still into promoting kinky sex?

Mark Steyn?

118 CommonCents  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:27:37am

re: #114 Guanxi88

Nothing can shake the suspicion I have occasionally that this whole LGF thing is in fact some sort of elaborate therapy procedure, and that I'm really in the day-room at the state nervous hospital.

It's spooky when all the other voices go quiet for a minute, isn't it?

119 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:27:39am

re: #109 Million Dollar Man

The new style in my neck of the woods is for kids to wear their shoes on the wrong feet.

/what kind of people are inheriting our world?

The wrong ones, that's for sure. Of course, thus has it been ever, I suppose. Still, someone needs to slap these fools around a little bit.

120 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:28:00am

re: #110 MandyManners

Is he still into promoting kinky sex?

Pete Seeger?! I must have missed that.

121 Kragar  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:28:18am

re: #107 CommonCents

Ever feel like you are all alone, or talking to yourself?

WHO SAID THAT?!

122 Wendya  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:28:20am

re: #1 Ward Cleaver

Wow, this is true wraparound - from the left to the right.

Not really. McKinney is a screaming moonbat.

The far left has been virulently antisemitic for some time now.

123 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:28:35am

re: #110 MandyManners

Is he still into promoting kinky sex?

Whuuut?

124 Kragar  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:29:02am

re: #110 MandyManners

Is he still into promoting kinky sex?

Define kinky.

/thread derailment in 3...2...

125 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:29:11am

Isn't Seeger the guy who tried to cut the power when Dylan went electric? What a dick.

126 CIA Reject  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:29:24am

re: #114 Guanxi88

Nothing can shake the suspicion I have occasionally that this whole LGF thing is in fact some sort of elaborate therapy procedure, and that I'm really in the day-room at the state nervous hospital.

I sometimes think it's an AI experiment gone horribly wrong...

127 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:29:24am

re: #122 Wendya

Not really. McKinney is a screaming moonbat.

The far left has been virulently antisemitic for some time now.

I just mean her making common cause with kooks on the opposite end of the spectrum.

128 experiencedtraveller  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:29:25am

re: #101 Guanxi88

Is it growth, or is it franchising? See, I envision the guy sort of spreading his bad crazy around ala the Colonel with KFC; every freaking town could have its own Prison Planet franchise.

The sophistication in which they can package the 'crazy' has dramatically increased. And that is a bit frightening.

129 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:29:38am

re: #124 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Define kinky.

/thread derailment in 3...2...

"... is when you use the whole chicken", etc.

130 LGoPs  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:29:58am

re: #110 MandyManners

Is he still into promoting kinky sex?

I may be completely wrong but I seem to have a vague memory that Seeger was defending bestiality, i.e. sex with animals at some point in the past......

131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:29:59am

re: #67 Fat Jolly Penguin

I saw that on one of those "epic fail" websites recently. Made me reeeeeally happy.

132 Idle Drifter  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:30:12am

re: #77 MandyManners

She is thought to be far-left so, her appearance on a far-right program is notable.

Bend the political rod long enough and eventually the two extremes will meet.

133 yochanan  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:30:13am

re: #39 fish

THAT would be the euro right. the euro context doesn't fit the american context at all.

i would say american anti xemitism is more of a POPULIST PROBLEM then a libertarian one.

134 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:30:28am

re: #122 Wendya

Not really. McKinney is a screaming moonbat.

The far left has been virulently antisemitic for some time now.

What's interesting now is that the far left anf far right antisemites seem to be able to work together more than I've seen in a while. You have people like Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan working with Cynthia McKinney and Alex Jones. It's so weird that even the right-left spectrum seems to be defied.

135 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:30:31am

re: #114 Guanxi88

Nothing can shake the suspicion I have occasionally that this whole LGF thing is in fact some sort of elaborate therapy procedure, and that I'm really in the day-room at the state nervous hospital.

Guaxni! Start the reactor! Save Mars!

136 BlueCanuck  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:30:35am

re: #129 Occasional Reader

"... is when you use the whole chicken", etc.

No, kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken.

/not as innocent as I look.

137 LGoPs  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:30:39am

Beastiality.....PIMF

138 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:30:48am

re: #130 LGoPs

I may be completely wrong but I seem to have a vague memory that Seeger was defending bestiality, i.e. sex with animals at some point in the past......

Confabulation?

139 Kragar  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:31:42am

re: #135 Occasional Reader

Guaxni! Start the reactor! Save Mars!

Welcome to da pawty Reader!

140 theheat  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:32:10am

So, an elderly Zionist befriended her dad to steal the keys to the campaign van, and throw the election for her?

You can't make up shit this crazy. Well... maybe Ron Paul can.

141 pink freud  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:32:17am

re: #137 LGoPs

Beastiality.....PIMF

No, it's bestiality. Otherwise known as zoophilia. :-)

142 opnion  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:32:23am

re: #99 Nevergiveup

Our current President sat in Rev. Wrights pews for 20 years and did seem to notice anything wrong? What dodge? What Bullet?

How he got away with that absrud assertion is hard to believe, even with a fawwning MSM.
Obama claimed to have attended Trinity for twenty years , on average twice a month, that's 120 times. Yet he never heard anything racist, anti semetic or anti American from Rev. Wright? All he really heard was the Audacity of Hope thing?

143 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:32:29am

re: #129 Occasional Reader

"... is when you use the whole chicken", etc.

Don't go all Pink Flamingoes on us now.

144 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:32:32am

re: #136 BlueCanuck

No, kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken.

/not as innocent as I look.

I always heard that line as "erotic" and "kinky", respectively.

145 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:32:35am

re: #132 Idle Drifter

Bend the political rod long enough and eventually the two extremes will meet.

Now that sounds kinky...

146 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:32:41am

re: #141 pink freud

No, it's bestiality. Otherwise known as zoophilia. :-)

"animal husbandry"?

147 Haverwilde  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:32:48am

Let’s define ‘Right Wing.” Conservative: upholding traditional values and beliefs, small government, fiscal restraint, emphasis on impartial social and legal institutions. Reliance on market driven capitalism, personal responsibility, respect for law and order; maintenance of a strong military for self defense; maintaining low taxation; constitutional limitations on government.

That radio show is as 'right wing' as the D.U., the National Socialists, and ACORN!

148 Kragar  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:32:50am

re: #137 LGoPs

Beastiality.....PIMF

Just dont get as drunk next time and you wont have to worry about what you wake up with.

/rimshot

149 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:33:06am

re: #141 pink freud

No, it's bestiality. Otherwise known as zoophilia. :-)

Whatever the name, it's not kinky, it's just plain disgusting.

150 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:33:25am

re: #126 CIA Reject

I sometimes think it's an AI experiment gone horribly wrong...

I thought she was banned years ago.
/

151 Idle Drifter  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:33:38am

re: #86 MandyManners

Well the Men in Black would work just as well.

152 halldor  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:33:48am

re: #56 oslogin

Ognir is old Norse for...

Horrors.

153 CIA Reject  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:33:59am

re: #150 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I thought she was banned years ago.
/

:-)

154 quickjustice  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:34:17am

McKinney has hated Jews, and publicly expressed that hatred, for a long time. Anti-semitism is widespread in the black community. Reverend Wright was just the tip of the iceberg. It's inevitable that McKinney and the neo-Nazi right would find one another.

155 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:34:35am
156 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:35:19am

Ognir is old Norse for...prostate.

157 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:35:19am

re: #127 Ward Cleaver

I just mean her making common cause with kooks on the opposite end of the spectrum.

It's not unheard of. I can't recall enough to find the links, but I remember reading something about black and white separatists finding common cause.

158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:35:33am

Whoa! Tornado watch for my area! Installing seat belts on the couch.

Was watching a movie on "In-Demand"...the alert interrupted the movie. How cool is that?

BTW, watching "The Hill". Sean Connery. Wicked good.

159 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:35:35am

re: #155 buzzsawmonkey

You see, Dylan had been classified as a "folk singer"--and for him to go electric meant that he was no longer doing "natural, folk" songs. Never mind that the "folk" had embraced the electric guitar since Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, or even before; "natural" and "folk" had to be honest, acoustic sound.

Perfectly logical if you look at it from the Leftist stasis-in-amber worldview.

You know, they'll tell you down in Texas, Bob Wills is still the king.

I'm less than a mile from the Broken Spoke.

160 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:36:01am

re: #155 buzzsawmonkey

You see, Dylan had been classified as a "folk singer"--and for him to go electric meant that he was no longer doing "natural, folk" songs. Never mind that the "folk" had embraced the electric guitar since Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, or even before; "natural" and "folk" had to be honest, acoustic sound.

Perfectly logical if you look at it from the Leftist stasis-in-amber worldview.

Seeger as the Pol Pot of folk music.

161 Kragar  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:36:01am

re: #156 Million Dollar Man

Ognir is old Norse for...prostate.

I thought it was simple the reverse of Ringo

162 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:36:04am

re: #125 Mad Al-Jaffee

Isn't Seeger the guy who tried to cut the power when Dylan went electric? What a dick.

In the photo at the top of the thread, it looks like McKinney tried something like that, too (and it ended badly for her).

163 AuntAcid  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:36:12am

Nothing Miss Cynthia does surprises me except that, to my knowledge, she has yet resorted to lap dancing.

164 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:36:14am

So, how did we go from Cynthia McKinney's bad craziness to a discussion acoustic Dylan?

165 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:36:20am

WH Reporters Stand For Obama, But Not For Bush?

Gee so much more energy?

166 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:36:35am

re: #154 quickjustice

McKinney has hated Jews, and publicly expressed that hatred, for a long time. Anti-semitism is widespread in the black community. Reverend Wright was just the tip of the iceberg. It's inevitable that McKinney and the neo-Nazi right would find one another.

Oh pretty baby, now that I found you, stay.

167 yma o hyd  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:36:39am

re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whoa! Tornado watch for my area! Installing seat belts on the couch.

Was watching a movie on "In-Demand"...the alert interrupted the movie. How cool is that?

BTW, watching "The Hill". Sean Connery. Wicked good.

Upding for 'The Hill' - it is wicked good!

168 Kragar  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:36:53am

re: #164 Guanxi88

So, how did we go from Cynthia McKinney's bad craziness to a discussion acoustic Dylan?

I think it has to do with the hair

169 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:37:16am

re: #162 Occasional Reader

In the photo at the top of the thread, it looks like McKinney tried something like that, too (and it ended badly for her).

She cut a 7.2kV line.

/zzzzzzap!

170 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:37:20am

re: #117 Million Dollar Man

Mark Steyn?

Seeger.

171 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:37:32am

re: #164 Guanxi88

So, how did we go from Cynthia McKinney's bad craziness to a discussion acoustic Dylan?

And Dylan is sane?

172 Kragar  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:37:43am

re: #169 Ward Cleaver

She cut a 7.2kV line.

/zzzzzzap!

She didn't bring a an adapter when she went overseas

173 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:37:52am

re: #130 LGoPs

I may be completely wrong but I seem to have a vague memory that Seeger was defending bestiality, i.e. sex with animals at some point in the past......

That's what I recall.

174 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:37:52am

I wondered how long it would take people to show up denying that these kooks are "far right."

Not long at all.

It's really sad that some people are so invested in the term "right wing" that they refuse to even see the existence of an extreme right wing.

Yes, there is one. And yes, it's often antisemitic, fascist, and promotes New World Order conspiracy theories, international banker conspiracy theories, and neo-Nazism.

But don't let me me interrupt the denial with any reality. Wouldn't want to do that.

175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:38:01am

re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ossie Davis was great in every movie he ever did.

176 Idle Drifter  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:38:06am

re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whoa! Tornado watch for my area! Installing seat belts on the couch.

That was a Ren & Stimpy episode.

177 Kenneth  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:38:08am
178 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:38:30am

re: #132 Idle Drifter

Bend the political rod long enough and eventually the two extremes will meet.

A great big circle of crazy.

179 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:38:53am
180 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:38:55am

re: #171 Nevergiveup

And Dylan is sane?

The man's a poet, so by definition, not sane, but rather possessed by his Muse.

181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:39:08am

re: #176 Idle Drifter

That was a Ren & Stimpy episode.

Really? GMTA.

182 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:39:21am

re: #170 MandyManners

Seeger.

I can see Steyn being down for a threesome or something like that. But don't imagine he's very kinky otherwise.

183 Kenneth  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:39:23am

re: #164 Guanxi88

So, how did we go from Cynthia McKinney's bad craziness to a discussion acoustic Dylan?

Well, we already had a gun discussion on the overnight thread, and it's too early on a Monday for a boob thread.

184 Timbre  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:39:47am

RunCynthiaRun! Sanity is sneaking up behind you!

185 pink freud  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:40:06am

OT, sort of: Sanctioned academic anti-Semitism on display (from scattered news stories this morning). This link provides full text from professor's email, along with the included pictures. Know what your children are exposed to.

From The Committee to Defend Academic Freedom at Univ California Santa Barbara

"Below you can find the original course material at issue in this case. Professor Robinson circulated the following information on the class listserv for students to consider in conjunction with other course materials. The email contained three main portions: 1) Prof. William I. Robinson’s words regarding Israeli military aggression in Gaza, 2) an article written by a journalist expressing condemnation for the same aggression, and 3) a series of juxtaposed pairs of pictures, one column documenting Nazi violence against Jews during the Holocaust and the second documenting Israeli violence against Palestinians."

186 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:40:09am

re: #171 Nevergiveup

And Dylan is sane?

He got paid cash money to have a lingerie-clad Adriana Lima slink around him in a t.v. commercial. If that's not "sane", I don't know what is.

187 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:40:12am

re: #176 Idle Drifter

That was a Ren & Stimpy episode.

Where are you located? Are you getting the storm system we had this weekend, in DFW?

188 theuglydougling  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:40:18am

re: #163 AuntAcid

Duuuude!

189 CommonCents  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:40:25am
Part of Obama's regulatory reforms include the creation of a new "systemic risk regulator" with broad powers to seize large non-bank financial firms, such as insurers, hedge funds or private equity companies, if they are deemed to threaten the stability of the financial system.

In next week's episode of "Going Socialist" Barack will introduce regulations that allow for the seizure of golf cart manufacturers if they don't stop using gasoline engines. And our season finale, the seizure of independent farms that don't cut back on animal flatulence.

190 Kragar  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:40:27am

re: #183 Kenneth

Well, we already had a gun discussion on the overnight thread, and it's too early on a Monday for a boob thread.

LIES!

Its never too early for a boob thread

191 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:40:44am

re: #174 Charles

I wondered how long it would take people to show up denying that these kooks are "far right."

Not long at all.

It's really sad that some people are so invested in the term "right wing" that they refuse to even see the existence of an extreme right wing.

Yes, there is one. And yes, it's often antisemitic, fascist, and promotes New World Order conspiracy theories, international banker conspiracy theories, and neo-Nazism.

But don't let me me interrupt the denial with any reality. Wouldn't want to do that.

But...but..fascism was always a leftist movement.

192 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:41:09am

re: #186 Occasional Reader

He got paid cash money to have a lingerie-clad Adriana Lima slink around him in a t.v. commercial. If that's not "sane", I don't know what is.

Not just sane, but smart. Maybe he's a sorcerer?

193 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:41:12am

re: #125 Mad Al-Jaffee

Isn't Seeger the guy who tried to cut the power when Dylan went electric? What a dick.

The story he tells now is that the sound was so bad.

"No one ever believes me about this. I was absolutely furious because the sound was so bad. It was so distorted you couldn't understand the words. I wanted to hear the words, so I ran over to the sound man and yelled at him to fix it so you can hear the words. He insisted that this is the way they wanted it. So I shouted to him, 'If I had an axe, I'd cut the cable."
194 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:41:14am

re: #155 buzzsawmonkey

You see, Dylan had been classified as a "folk singer"--and for him to go electric meant that he was no longer doing "natural, folk" songs. Never mind that the "folk" had embraced the electric guitar since Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, or even before; "natural" and "folk" had to be honest, acoustic sound.

Perfectly logical if you look at it from the Leftist stasis-in-amber worldview.

The need for "authenticity"?

195 LC LaWedgie  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:41:19am

Wow, some blogger posts an article and *poof* McKrazy and her evergreen party are fir right. The world's moving fast!

196 wiffersnapper  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:41:21am

I'm surprised the whole place didn't blow up, like anti-matter and matter coming together.

197 LGoPs  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:41:35am

re: #179 buzzsawmonkey

I confess Seeger is an inspiration to me. He was quoted, many years ago, as believing that "if we kept singing loudly enough, long enough, we could change things."
And, indeed, Seeger sparked the folk revival, and his music has been instrumental (so to speak) in helping to spread a leftist world view.

I figure if I churn out enough verses and song parodies with a countervailing theme, it could make some small difference.

It's sad to think that people are so shallow that writing some catchy tunes and verses can have such an impact.
It brings truth to the story of the Pied Piper........

198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:41:41am

re: #187 Ward Cleaver

Roanoke (SW) Virginia. Skies look crazy!

199 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:41:51am

re: #163 AuntAcid

Nothing Miss Cynthia does surprises me except that, to my knowledge, she has yet resorted to lap dancing.

*whack*

What a freakin' image!

200 Wendya  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:42:20am

re: #127 Ward Cleaver

I just mean her making common cause with kooks on the opposite end of the spectrum.

They're not really on opposite ends. If you consider a spectrum with anarchy at one end and totalitarianism at the other, the far left and far right both inch towards totalitarianism.

201 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:42:46am

re: #196 wiffersnapper

I'm surprised the whole place didn't blow up, like anti-matter and matter coming together.

Matter and Anti-Matter, lying down together!

/ghostbusters

202 theuglydougling  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:43:07am

re: #174 Charles

The extreme left wing promotes the same things, though, and that's where it all gets blurry.

203 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:43:19am

re: #198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Roanoke (SW) Virginia. Skies look crazy!

Okay, could be.

204 quickjustice  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:43:20am

re: #173 MandyManners

Are you suggesting that Pete Seeger, the legendary lefty folksinger, was "horsing around"?

205 CIA Reject  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:43:22am

re: #199 MandyManners

*whack*

What a freakin' image!

Right up there with the "Helen Thomas in a thong" image from a few weeks ago ....

*ACK!*

206 dato_jo_khan  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:43:46am

what a nutty woman.. heh.. the photo of her is perfect

207 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:44:15am

re: #198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Roanoke (SW) Virginia. Skies look crazy!

One word, dude: CROATOAN.

Nice having known you!

(Yes, I know, different Roanoke)

208 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:44:22am

re: #179 buzzsawmonkey

I confess Seeger is an inspiration to me. He was quoted, many years ago, as believing that "if we kept singing loudly enough, long enough, we could change things."

And, indeed, Seeger sparked the folk revival, and his music has been instrumental (so to speak) in helping to spread a leftist world view.

I figure if I churn out enough verses and song parodies with a countervailing theme, it could make some small difference.

From Tom Lerhrer:
We are the folk song army
Every one of us cares
We all hate poverty, war and injustice
Unlike the rest of you squares
...
We are the folk song army
Guitars are the weapons we bring
To the fight against poverty, war, and injustice
Ready, Aim, Sing!

209 pink freud  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:44:29am

re: #206 dato_jo_khan

Welcome aboard :-)

210 ssn697  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:44:36am

re: #17 Max Darkside

Ognir = Ringo backwards, eh (I'm a bit slow, or late to the party, perhaps). Any special meaning to a backwards Ringo?

Ringo Starr actually used "Ognir Rrats" as an alter ego for a while (you can't make this stuff up).

Probably a Beatles fan who thinks this is way, WAY cool.

211 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:44:44am

re: #186 Occasional Reader

He got paid cash money to have a lingerie-clad Adriana Lima slink around him in a t.v. commercial. If that's not "sane", I don't know what is.

Whoa, there, big fellow. Remember you're still at work.

212 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:44:56am

re: #199 MandyManners

*whack*

What a freakin' image!

Before she began looking so nutty, she was actually attractive (IMHO). Her nuttiness has reached the surface, and now manifests itself in her appearance.

213 LGoPs  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:44:58am

re: #196 wiffersnapper

I'm surprised the whole place didn't blow up, like anti-matter and matter coming together.

It would have if it was pasta and anti-pasta coming together. They are far more volatile.....
/

214 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:45:02am

re: #163 AuntAcid

Nothing Miss Cynthia does surprises me except that, to my knowledge, she has yet resorted to lap dancing.

Now we're getting a bit out of hand

/this has nothing to with her skin colour

215 pink freud  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:45:11am

A very quiet and unobtrusive open door .....

216 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:45:27am
217 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:45:37am

re: #204 quickjustice

Are you suggesting that Pete Seeger, the legendary lefty folksinger, was "horsing around"?

Neigh.

218 dato_jo_khan  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:45:39am

re: #178 MandyManners

ya.. absolutely.. Everyone thinks it's linear... but i'ts not..

219 LGoPs  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:45:53am

re: #205 CIA Reject

Right up there with the "Helen Thomas in a thong" image from a few weeks ago ....

*ACK!*

You are truly evil.

220 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:46:00am

re: #194 MandyManners

Dylan's the reason I first started playing the harmonica. Fortunately, I discovered Big Walter, Junior Wells, Paul Butterfield, Sonny Terry, Little Walter, etc. and that changed my style.

221 dhg4  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:46:00am

Is the title "Jews behind every rock" a reference to this?

“The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until you make war on the Jews, until a Jew will hide behind a rock or tree, and the rock or tree will say: Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, here is a Jew behind me, kill him!’”

222 LGoPs  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:46:18am

re: #217 MandyManners

Neigh.

Hay!

223 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:47:04am

re: #130 LGoPs

I may be completely wrong but I seem to have a vague memory that Seeger was defending bestiality, i.e. sex with animals at some point in the past......

That's Peter Singer, not Pete Seeger.

224 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:47:09am

Later.

225 saberry0530  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:47:13am

re: #205 CIA Reject

Right up there with the "Helen Thomas in a thong" image from a few weeks ago ....

*ACK!*

Isn't that called a GP Medium in most military circles?

226 tfc3rid  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:47:20am

She left the planet a long, long time ago... She will go anyplace that will pay her mind...

227 ConservatismNow!  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:47:29am

re: #213 LGoPs

It would have if it was pasta and anti-pasta coming together. They are far more volatile.....
/

that would have been the most delicious explosion ever.

228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:47:31am

Gotta share this...

"The Hill", is a British military prison film, set in WWII. Prison is in Northern Africa for military miscreants, awols, etc...

Disturbance breaks out, head guy orders a guard to go for reinforcements. Guard asks, "Armed Sir?" Head guy says, "Where the hell do you think you are? Chicago?"

I don't know if that line was meant to be as funny as it was.

229 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:47:47am

re: #205 CIA Reject

Right up there with the "Helen Thomas in a thong" image from a few weeks ago ....

*ACK!*

Nancy Miranda wants your banana!

Hat-tip: rightside

230 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:47:50am
231 Kenneth  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:47:54am

re: #200 Wendya

The problem with the left-right dichotomy is that political ideology has not just one, but several axis:

Collectivism vs Individualism
Socialism vs Capitalism
Nationalism vs Internationalism
Dictatorship vs Democracy
Totalitarianism vs Freedom

232 Bagua  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:48:04am

The lunatics are running the asylum

233 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:48:18am

re: #221 dhg4

Is the title "Jews behind every rock" a reference to this?

It could be, but it sounds more like standard antisemitic hate speech to me.

234 CIA Reject  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:48:24am

re: #225 saberry0530

LOL!

235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:48:25am

re: #207 Occasional Reader

Thought it was Croatan.

236 LGoPs  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:48:27am

re: #223 Alouette

That's Peter Singer, not Pete Seeger.

Thanks for the correction.

237 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:48:31am

re: #208 Kosh's Shadow

From Tom Lerhrer:
We are the folk song army
Every one of us cares
We all hate poverty, war and injustice
Unlike the rest of you squares
...
We are the folk song army
Guitars are the weapons we bring
To the fight against poverty, war, and injustice
Ready, Aim, Sing!

Never bring a guitar to a gun fight.

238 midwestgak  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:48:34am

re: #215 pink freud

Good catch.

239 Mithrax  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:48:56am

re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gotta share this...

"The Hill", is a British military prison film, set in WWII. Prison is in Northern Africa for military miscreants, awols, etc...

Disturbance breaks out, head guy orders a guard to go for reinforcements. Guard asks, "Armed Sir?" Head guy says, "Where the hell do you think you are? Chicago?"

I don't know if that line was meant to be as funny as it was.

With Sean Connery no less.

240 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:49:05am

re: #212 Ward Cleaver

Before she began looking so nutty, she was actually attractive (IMHO). Her nuttiness has reached the surface, and now manifests itself in her appearance.

Shades of Dorian Gray?

241 Million Dollar Man  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:49:09am

re: #221 dhg4

Is the title "Jews behind every rock" a reference to this?

Let's ban trees!

242 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:49:27am

re: #186 Occasional Reader

He got paid cash money to have a lingerie-clad Adriana Lima slink around him in a t.v. commercial. If that's not "sane", I don't know what is.

Is it just me or does Dylan look like Kenneth Brannagh in Wild Wild West?

243 Kenneth  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:49:37am

re: #205 CIA Reject

Time for this classic!

244 CIA Reject  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:49:51am

re: #229 MandyManners

*shudder*

245 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:50:10am

re: #218 dato_jo_khan

ya.. absolutely.. Everyone thinks it's linear... but i'ts not..

Assholery and insanity know no boundaries.

246 Mithrax  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:50:20am

re: #243 Kenneth

Time for this classic!

Well. There goes dinner, and here comes lunch! *blech*

247 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:50:34am

re: #220 Mad Al-Jaffee

Dylan's the reason I first started playing the harmonica. Fortunately, I discovered Big Walter, Junior Wells, Paul Butterfield, Sonny Terry, Little Walter, etc. and that changed my style.

The Kid's taken it up. Oh, joy.

248 quickjustice  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:50:37am

re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

After Connery's brilliant turn in "The Untouchables" ("Just like a wop to bring a knife to a gunfight."), I wouldn't be surprised. Remember that shortly after delivering that line, he's machine-gunned by an Italian-American member of the Capone gang.

249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:50:39am

re: #243 Kenneth

Time for this classic!

What. Did. I. Ever. Do. To. You?

250 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:50:47am

re: #237 MandyManners

Never bring a guitar to a gun fight.

Right. Bring a violin case.

251 saberry0530  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:50:55am

re: #243 Kenneth

Time for this classic!

Is that the PRe-gravity induced model?

252 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:51:02am

re: #222 LGoPs

Hay!

Feeling your oats today?

253 lawhawk  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:51:18am

re: #195 LC LaWedgie

Wow, some blogger posts an article and *poof* McKrazy and her evergreen party are fir right. The world's moving fast!

Well, McKinney can still be far left and go so far around the corner so as to appear on a far right anti-Semitic radio show. If there's one thing in common that the far right and far left have in common is anti-Semitism. It doesn't change the fact that there's bad crazy on both sides of the political spectrum and that they're not confined to the right or left.

254 DaddyG  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:51:28am

re: #114 Guanxi88

Nothing can shake the suspicion I have occasionally that this whole LGF thing is in fact some sort of elaborate therapy procedure, and that I'm really in the day-room at the state nervous hospital.

Nurse, patient 88 needs their sodage increased. /

255 CIA Reject  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:51:34am

re: #243 Kenneth

Time for this classic!

OK, I guess I've done enough to derail this thread - back to work!

Later folks ...

256 DaddyG  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:52:00am

re: #254 DaddyG

Nurse, patient 88 needs their sodage increased. /


sodage = dosage = breaking in new bi-focals. ugh!

257 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:52:05am

re: #230 buzzsawmonkey

"Authenticity" is one of the Leftist lodestars, but so is stasis; the Left likes to still fantasize that the "working class" is some sort of IWW entity from 1910. Dylan "going electric" went against this fantasy of stasis--never mind that the working class had embraced the electric guitar from the moment it had appeared.

Maybe there was a tad of narcissism on Seeger's part in that Dylan's embrace of the electric guitar went against his tastes, ergo it was inherently wrong.

258 LGoPs  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:52:14am

re: #252 MandyManners

Feeling your oats today?

There's a grain of truth in there somwehere.......

259 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:52:28am

re: #220 Mad Al-Jaffee

Dylan's the reason I first started playing the harmonica. Fortunately, I discovered Big Walter, Junior Wells, Paul Butterfield, Sonny Terry, Little Walter, etc. and that changed my style.

Reminds me of Neil Innes doing a Dylan parody. After some really bad harmonica noises, he says "I suffered for my music. Now it's your turn."

260 DaddyG  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:52:45am

1 Far Right + 1 Far Left = 2 Far Gone

261 Kenneth  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:52:55am

re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What. Did. I. Ever. Do. To. You?

I've got worse! Give up yet?

262 lawhawk  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:53:04am

re: #237 MandyManners

Never bring a guitar to a gun fight.

The heck you say!

263 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:53:17am

re: #259 Kosh's Shadow

Reminds me of Neil Innes doing a Dylan parody. After some really bad harmonica noises, he says "I suffered for my music. Now it's your turn."

Wow, Neil Innes. I haven't heard that name in a long time.

264 pat  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:53:17am

Nuts do not fall far from the tree.

265 Ojoe  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:53:21am

I bailed from the Green Party a long time ago because of this madness.

Lots of greens are less than mentally competent, many of the ones I knew smoked weed a lot.

266 dato_jo_khan  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:53:31am

re: #209 pink freud

thanks =) ive read lgf for a bit.. but always seemed to miss the registrations..

most of the articles make me laugh.. this woman especially. so it's perfect that my first post is on a threat featuring her heh

267 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:53:50am
268 Ojoe  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:53:53am

re: #256 DaddyG

Rotating title material, that "sodage"

269 MandyManners  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:54:13am

Laundry. bbl

270 Idle Drifter  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:54:13am

re: #181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really? GMTA.

Ren and Stimpy "Farm Hands", can't find a video though, sorry.

271 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:54:49am
272 formercorpsman  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:54:54am

Bad craziness indeed.

273 midwestgak  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:55:04am

re: #256 DaddyG

sodage = dosage = breaking in new bi-focals. ugh!

hahaha. Thanks for the giggle.

274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:55:10am

re: #262 lawhawk

had just set this up...

275 DaddyG  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:55:30am

re: #268 Ojoe

Rotating title material, that "sodage"

Honco soddage!

276 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:55:39am

re: #253 lawhawk

Well, McKinney can still be far left and go so far around the corner so as to appear on a far right anti-Semitic radio show. If there's one thing in common that the far right and far left have in common is anti-Semitism. It doesn't change the fact that there's bad crazy on both sides of the political spectrum and that they're not confined to the right or left.


Also note that there is a lot of anti-semitism on the left as demonstrated in numerous pro-Palestinian rallies on college campuses. Or any time David Horowitz attempts to speak on a campus.

So, McKinney is in no way inconsistent in holding her leftist political positions and her anti-semitism. They are peas in a pod.

277 Idle Drifter  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:55:42am

re: #187 Ward Cleaver

Where are you located? Are you getting the storm system we had this weekend, in DFW?

I'm in the Denver metro area, bright and sunny right now.

278 quickjustice  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:55:45am

re: #265 Ojoe

Classic green logic: Marijuana is from nature. I like natural things. Therefore, I should smoke marijuana!

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:56:05am

re: #261 Kenneth

The other'n bothered me more.

280 tomg51spence  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:56:52am

Her hair is simply trying to get as far away from her as possible.

281 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:57:16am

When it comes to kooks and uber-haters out on the fringe, like McKinney, the only differences between the left and right is the object of all the hatred being spewed.

282 The Optimist  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:57:55am

Is Cynthia McKinney being paid for taking these views? I would like a look at her finances. It seems some Middle Eastern Arab money must be entering her bank accounts lately.

283 Kenneth  Mon, May 4, 2009 9:58:24am

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How about this?

284 Øyvind Strømmen  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:01:44am

re: #152 halldor

Horrors.

Seems like I have to restudy old Norse then. Maybe I should contact one of my old classmates, who is now teaching the stuff ;)

285 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:02:20am
286 Red Pencil  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:03:45am

All the fringes are tied up in little nazis.

287 CommonCents  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:04:33am

re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gotta share this...

"The Hill", is a British military prison film, set in WWII. Prison is in Northern Africa for military miscreants, awols, etc...

Disturbance breaks out, head guy orders a guard to go for reinforcements. Guard asks, "Armed Sir?" Head guy says, "Where the hell do you think you are? Chicago?"

I don't know if that line was meant to be as funny as it was.

How old is that movie?

288 debutaunt  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:06:14am

re: #114 Guanxi88

Nothing can shake the suspicion I have occasionally that this whole LGF thing is in fact some sort of elaborate therapy procedure, and that I'm really in the day-room at the state nervous hospital.

hahahahahahahahahaahahahaha

289 yochanan  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:07:54am

re: #136 BlueCanuck

ads new meaning to goose down.

290 zeebeach  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:08:15am

I'm really glad I read Ayn Rand as a teenager (Atlas Shrugged, We the Living) and James Michener's "The Drifters". Michener's novel was my first exposure to the fact that militant blacks hated Jews. It made no sense to me then, and none now. It began to build the foundation of my very pro-Israel position. The Ayn Rand reading built the foundation for my fiscal conservatism and small government stand. Both books I read before I was 16 years old. It took years for my philosophy to develop, but I'm reminded almost daily of those two authors.

291 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:08:32am
292 Kenneth  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:08:46am

re: #114 Guanxi88

Nothing can shake the suspicion I have occasionally that this whole LGF thing is in fact some sort of elaborate therapy procedure, and that I'm really in the day-room at the state nervous hospital.

Tell me more about that...

293 yochanan  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:09:24am

re: #283 Kenneth

How about this?

the blindness kenneth the blindness.

294 LC LaWedgie  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:13:05am

re: #286 Red Pencil

All the fringes are tied up in little nazis.

Yeah... you'll notice if you check out wiki that all kinds of "far-right" radical organizations are listed as fact, however all entities (such as Media Matters) are only referred to as "far-left" by "far-right" news hacks.

/It's easier that way.

295 [deleted]  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:16:04am
296 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:17:35am

re: #292 Kenneth

Tell me more about that...

Well, Doc (you don't mind if I call you Doc, do you?) it's like this:

I've heard of the Truman Delusion, and I'm pretty sure LGF doesn't quite match that one, and yet, I've got this suspicion, see. I don't think you're in on it, or even that there's anything to be "in on", but all the same, I keep getting information about things that I just KNOW can't be true.

Take this Obama thing - they expect me to believe that a nobody with no background of any sort can waltz into the White House, and start nationalizing industries all over the place, and no one does anything about it, or even thinks to say something about it? I mean, it's got to be a diagnostic thing, right? I mean, that didn't really happen, did it?

And this Israel/Palestinian thing. Really, Doc, do you expect me to believe that the people here in this country think the Israelis are the bad guys, and the Pali's the victims? Can't be. I'm not crazy, the storyline is.

I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm starting to see through things now, and I can tell this is all some sort of elaborate hoax or test; maybe a practical joke?

297 shiplord kirel  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:22:05am

I guess McNinny and her ever-shrinking circle of supporters would squeal "racist!" if I were to suggest that this particular crocodile plans to eat them next.

298 CommonCents  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:27:37am

Informational reading for some who need it (no names).

Wikipedia - Political Spectrum

Or just google Politcal Spectrum. There are thousands of references and varying descriptions but almost universally they claim there is no straight line left v. right but multiple axes definitions.

299 halldor  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:34:43am

re: #284 oslogin

Seems like I have to restudy old Norse then. Maybe I should contact one of my old classmates, who is now teaching the stuff ;)

Weirdly, perhaps, "ognir" can also mean "a lot of" - in modern Icelandic, that is. I don't know what the significance of that is in the present discussion... :-)

300 halldor  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:36:16am

re: #299 halldor

Weirdly, perhaps, "ognir" can also mean "a lot of" - in modern Icelandic, that is. I don't know what the significance of that is in the present discussion... :-)

... or maybe that's just "ogn".

301 Cygnus  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:43:45am

re: #80 Cato

I disagree.

Cynthia McKinney is no more insane than say, Caligula.

Or Renfield.

302 Kenneth  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:46:52am

re: #296 Guanxi88

Hmmm... I see. This is a serious case. I think I'm going to have to up your medication. Again.

303 LC LaWedgie  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:52:01am

Did a little google research on ognir and his pals. Admirers of this guy and strangely enough, the site of Daryl Bradford Smith, you know, the patriot Yankee who lives in central France.
The sunnis like him, too even while he bemoans the loss of the poor Swiss bankers.

304 Guanxi88  Mon, May 4, 2009 10:55:49am

re: #302 Kenneth

Hmmm... I see. This is a serious case. I think I'm going to have to up your medication. Again.

Excellent. More please, especially the little diamond-shaped ones; they're nice.

305 Haverwilde  Mon, May 4, 2009 11:01:24am

re: #174 Charles

I wondered how long it would take people to show up denying that these kooks are "far right."

Not long at all.

It's really sad that some people are so invested in the term "right wing" that they refuse to even see the existence of an extreme right wing.

Yes, there is one. And yes, it's often antisemitic, fascist, and promotes New World Order conspiracy theories, international banker conspiracy theories, and neo-Nazism.

But don't let me me interrupt the denial with any reality. Wouldn't want to do that.

It is a matter of definition of terms and the 'guilt by association, not investment in a term. Clearly institutional racism was a function of our culture and as such was historically 'protected' by a conservative orientation. Thankfully that is breaking down. But to suggest that kooks of the above variety can be lumped into a general conservative grouping is absurd. So either conservatives are not on the 'right' or these folks are not on the 'right' because the values they espouse are antithetical to any conservative valuation.

306 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 4, 2009 11:07:30am

re: #77 MandyManners

She is thought to be far-left so, her appearance on a far-right program is notable.

When you're that far out, there really isn't that much difference between 'em.

307 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 4, 2009 11:11:10am

re: #109 Million Dollar Man

The new style in my neck of the woods is for kids to wear their shoes on the wrong feet.

/what kind of people are inheriting our world?

The same kind that used to write offensive slogans on their cars in the 20s. That trend will probably die out because it hurts their toes.

308 Kenneth  Mon, May 4, 2009 11:24:58am

re: #304 Guanxi88

Certainly. Make yourself at home, wander the grounds. You'll be here at least until 2012.

309 Øyvind Strømmen  Mon, May 4, 2009 11:50:05am

re: #300 halldor

... or maybe that's just "ogn".

And on the Faeroe Isles, ogn means property, as in "allmenn ogn" - public domain, or as their wikipedia notes on Ferdinand Marcos:

Tey stýrdu øllum politiskum og fíggjarligum viðurskiftum og stjólu ovurstórar ognir frá filipinska fólkinum. Meðan Marcos var í útlegd í USA, skuldsetti nýggju filipinska stjórnin hann fyri at hava lagt sær og sínum 100-tals milliónir til síðis.

Sorry, guys, but it's such a nice language :)

310 nyc redneck  Mon, May 4, 2009 11:52:12am

she would be thrilled to accept an opportunity to speak to swine in a hog lot.
she is that desperate for attention.
pathetic, really.

311 Paul  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:04:14pm

Ognir and McKinney: two loons swimming in the same anti-semitic lake.

It's illuminating and instructive how Jew hatred brings together people who have nothing in common other than their insane conspiracy theories.

312 totalkaosdave  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:04:16pm

This guy seems to be a fascist, and fascism is a left-wing ideology, not a right-wing ideology. In fact, fascism is, by definition, is in contrast with conservatism. It concerns me when people equate ideologies such as fascism and nazism with the far-right when they are leftist. To have you, Charles, perpetuate without question this propaganda is incomprehensible.

313 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:13:31pm

Here we go again.

314 halldor  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:14:23pm

re: #309 oslogin

And on the Faeroe Isles, ogn means property, as in "allmenn ogn" ....

And in Icelandic/Norse, the word is "eign".

Sorry, guys, but it's such a nice language :)

I agree, Faeroese is a lot nicer than Icelandic.

/waving Danish flag :-)

315 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:16:06pm

re: #305 Haverwilde

It is a matter of definition of terms and the 'guilt by association, not investment in a term. Clearly institutional racism was a function of our culture and as such was historically 'protected' by a conservative orientation. Thankfully that is breaking down. But to suggest that kooks of the above variety can be lumped into a general conservative grouping is absurd. So either conservatives are not on the 'right' or these folks are not on the 'right' because the values they espouse are antithetical to any conservative valuation.

And of course, I never said anything about putting them in a 'conservative' category.

They are espousing an extreme right wing philosophy.

316 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:22:14pm

It seems totally uncontroversial to call the extreme right wing what it is. This isn't "guilt by association" at all. Any political orientation, when taken to an extreme, leads to this kind of hatefulness and -- by definition -- extremism.

There are extreme left-wingers, and there are extreme right-wingers. Often they meet at the far edges of totalitarianism, and that's what we're seeing with Cynthia McKinney.

Denying the existence of an extreme right wing is ridiculous, and simply wrong. And it's a waste of energy that would be much better spent in denouncing these kinds of creeps, even when they're "right wing" -- rather than denying they exist.

317 Mikey_Dallas  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:35:06pm

re: #17 Max Darkside

Ognir = Ringo backwards, eh (I'm a bit slow, or late to the party, perhaps). Any special meaning to a backwards Ringo?

I can clear this up for you. Before Pete Best and Richard Starkey, Joseph Goebbels was the drummer for the Beatles.

318 Paul  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:39:03pm

Anti-semitism, as evidenced by Ognir and McKinney, transcends political labels. Political and religious extremists need an enemy who is responsible for all their perceived problems, Jews (or Zionism as they like to call it) fit the bill perfectly.

Ognir is a right-wing, racist thug; McKinney is a left-wing crackpot. But they both know and agree as to who is really responsible for 9/11 and those chem trails.

319 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:40:46pm

Is that pic for real?

320 halldor  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:41:00pm

re: #316 Charles

There are extreme left-wingers, and there are extreme right-wingers. Often they meet at the far edges of totalitarianism

I agree with that. Totalitarianism is where the extremes of left and right meet. Lenin and Mussolini, Stalin and Hitler. Today, Al Qaeda and the Eurofascists.

321 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:48:21pm

re: #317 Mikey_Dallas

I can clear this up for you. Before Pete Best and Richard Starkey, Joseph Goebbels was the drummer for the Beatles.

That might explain this, somehow...;-)

322 FrumiousFalafel  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:49:09pm

re: #174 Charles

It may help if you were to explain that the terms "Leftist" and "Rightist" do not necessarily lie on a straight line but rather, on a circle. That is to say, if you go far enough in one direction (left or right) you end up meeting people from the other end. They become kissing cousins and often their views will overlap especially in their Populist and Protectionist appeal.

While someone like Pat Buchanan is generally considered to be an extreme Rightist, he is so far right (on the “political circle”) that some of his views overlap those we would consider ultra-Left-Wing, like, say Ralph Nader. And if the overlap isn't overtly apparent, then typically one just needs to scratch below the surface a bit to find the ultimate common denominator: a belief in the almighty and all-powerful Jew.

One does often find (although not always) that the extreme Left and the extreme Right hold hidden & not-so-hidden anti-Semitic views. Why? I’m not sure, but it seems to be their foundational racist plank, the calling-card of their hate, if you will.

Put another way: if you look at any and all groups that hate something, they always hate, as a "lowest common denominator" (of sorts) the Jews. The only exception to this rule is the very recent phenomena of groups in the UK and Europe like the BNP and Vlaams Blok where outright anti-Semitism is still considered uncivilized. Thus they adopt a temporary "plank" of loving all things Jewish and supporting Israel. Don't be deceived by the temporary restraint they've adopted. Their actual urges are to beat up every Jew they can find. They are exercising a high degree of self control at the moment in order to attract more votes, period.

To describe how Hitler combined extreme Left and Right (+ anti-Semitism) is really beyond the scope of this post. But here’s a quick stab. The main point is that he combined extreme Rightists views (trains running on time, strong, proud military) with an almost mystical love of the German land that only "true Germans" can really appreciate (strictly speaking: a far Left view). Since most people are familiar with the Fascistic Right-wing aspects of the Nazis, I’ll skip them.

But there was an additional and equally important extreme Leftist doctrine loosely called “Blut und Boden” (Blood and Soil/Land). This dual theme of "blut" and “boden” (Soil/Land, or more broadly, the Fatherland) are woven together throughout German culture and Hitler smartly latched onto it. Blut und Boden provided him a populist plank which essentially said that Germans were owed the land, including some extra Lebensraum -- "living space.” The whole point being that the Germans could then lead a more natural life, tied to the soil, and not cart around wheelbarrows of money (read: Jews, Capitalists) around -- of course it helped that this view also appealed to the Germanic innate feeling of superiority. Apropos to this post though, it should be noted that these can be viewed as primarily a “Back to Nature” movement not unlike extreme Leftists movements in this country especially during the 1960’s. Extreme Leftists, anti-Technologists, etc share many beliefs with the extreme Rightist.

Re: McKinney. No, it's not true that one always finds racism in the extreme Left or Right, but it's found more often than not. And that racism tends to have a healthy dose of anti-Semitism. In McKinney's case, we find loads of it (unfortunately prevalent in many “Black Muslims" in this country -- and this after the huge amount of help US Jews lent the Civil Rights Movement, giving their lives in some cases -- it's quite sad really). But whether one wants to call McKinney an ultra-Rightist or an ultra-Leftist, there's not a large gap between the two from my neo-Con perspective.

323 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:51:05pm

I love that photo.
It DEFINES the term "batshit crazy"

324 FrumiousFalafel  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:53:54pm

re: #306 SanFranciscoZionist

You just distilled my long post into its very essence. Thank you for that. For anyone not wanting to read through my ultra-long diatribe, please see this gentleman's post (#306).

325 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, May 4, 2009 12:54:11pm

re: #312 totalkaosdave

Wrong. Fascist groups have always strongly identified themselves as right wing, and declared the left and left wing thought as their enemies. You're in denial.

326 Sceptic Tank  Mon, May 4, 2009 2:30:09pm

Left or Right. Hate works. So does common sense if you have any. And to live in a society that allows you to use it.

327 LittleBenny  Mon, May 4, 2009 3:13:49pm

That Cynthia McKinney is aligned with Jew-haters is not exactly news. She was, after all, part of that Free Gaza quackery. What puzzles me is that Charles can still use that photo of her, and it never, ever gets old.

Heh heh

328 nobomanohow  Mon, May 4, 2009 3:16:25pm

Well, I guess this proves what some political experts say that the right left divide is not linear but indeed circular! Very sad but not unexpected for the very deranged Cynthia.

329 Haverwilde  Mon, May 4, 2009 3:26:28pm

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330 Haverwilde  Mon, May 4, 2009 3:30:01pm

Don't know what happened to my post. I erred some how. Oh well, maybe later.

331 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, May 4, 2009 3:58:05pm

re: #174 Charles

In my opinion once someone has gone so far off the deep end they're not really right/left anymore, just insane. McKinney fits that definition. Anyone who proclaims to on the political right then goes over to stuff that advocates genocide/goes against the very grain of basic liberty/independence etc has actually stepped off the platform and boarded the crazy train. Same thing for the "extremists" of the left who advocate being "nice to to the earth" over letting humanity grow and expand etc.

/2 cents

332 GhostShip  Mon, May 4, 2009 4:17:40pm

Having never heard of this radio program and just looking at the titles I can't see what makes this radio program a far-right one. Going by the titles of the shows it's without a doubt a racist program but I don't understand the labeling of it as far-right unless your saying that the far-right is by definition racist.

333 Haverwilde  Mon, May 4, 2009 4:17:52pm

re: #315 Charles

And of course, I never said anything about putting them in a 'conservative' category.

They are espousing an extreme right wing philosophy.

Okay I will try it again.

You did not conflate conservatism and ‘right wing.’ I did. I believe in the common parlance that is what is meant by ‘right wing,’ but… not to quibble.

If one assumes there is a ‘right wing,’ it must have some defining character. Otherwise it becomes merely a label that can be applied, or misapplied to anyone or anything. I admit that I tend toward the conservative end of the spectrum, but as far as I can see I have no beliefs in common with the nut cases above. I don’t deny that they exist—they most unfortunately do. And they may even call themselves ‘right wing,’ but what do they, or you, mean by it.

If ‘right wing’ and conservative, are not in any way synonymous, what does ‘right wing’ mean?

It is a minor issue, I understand. But there is a media (and Internet) tendency to smear with a broad brush, and lump reasonable folks in, with kooks, extremists and a**holes. So take my comments as my way of avoiding that ‘lump’ification. As to denunciation of them, I most whole heartedly do so!

334 stanleymberg  Mon, May 4, 2009 4:56:50pm

The Far Left and the Far Right always do meet at Jew-Hating Junction, to paraphrase or plagiarize another comment I already saw on this thread (all apologies - it was a good line, and I'm sorry if I bastardized it). There really is no difference - the extremes are both evil, and they are almost ALWAYS linked by anti-Semitism. Charles is absolutely right to be calling out evil, whether it purports to exist on the "right" or on the "left" end of the spectrum. I use the quotes, because the true extremes are neither "right" nor "left" - they are merely evil totalitarians, usually linked by a shared hatred of Jews.

335 totalkaosdave  Mon, May 4, 2009 4:59:56pm

Jimmah, don't confuse european definitions of left and right with American definitions. Fascism, by definition is government control. American right-wingers are, by definition, for smaller government, less government control, thereby, anti-fascism.
Nazism, from Dissecting Leftism: The Big Lie of the late 20th century was that Nazism was Rightist. It was in fact typical of the Leftism of its day. It was only to the Right of Stalin's Communism. The very word "Nazi" is a German abbreviation for "National Socialist" (Nationalsozialist) and the full name of Hitler's political party (translated) was "The National Socialist German Workers' Party" (In German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)

I'm not in denial Jimmah, I am correct.

Charles, I understand there are extremists on each wing, sometimes creating the circle, however, let's stick with facts. If I want to get into the semantics games of George Lakoff, I'll go back to "contributing" to the federal government after Obama "restores" the tax rates...

336 GhostShip  Mon, May 4, 2009 5:39:20pm

re: #334 stanleymberg

What makes this radio show right-wing? I haven't seen any comment on this thread that answers that question. The attitude seems to be "well duh, they're racists so of course they're right wing."

That's not a argument. That's a smear on all those who are right-wing.

337 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 4, 2009 6:33:00pm

I suppose it's only a matter of time before McKinney appears at an ANSWER rally here in SF, alongside Rich "the dick" Becker & Paul "crazy for Jihad" Larudee.

338 meh130  Mon, May 4, 2009 7:46:20pm

Both the extreme left and the extreme right are anti-semitic.

I'll never forget watching Cythia's father, Billy McKinney, on local TV the night in 2002 she lost the Democrat primary to Denise Majette. The man said "It was the Jews! J - E - W - S Jews!"

I was just stunned, I probably muttered out loud "I can't believe he just said that on live TV." I mean, we all knew Cynthia was the candidate of Hamas, Al-Qaida, CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Saudi Royal family, but I was amazed to see Billy rant about Jews on TV.

I think these two clowns still have sections of I-285 named after them.


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