Cartoon Renaissance

Charles Johnson

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A classic Photoshop contest featuring the old masters at worth1000.com: Cartoon Renaissance.

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168 comments

doppelganglander Mon, May 4, 2009 1:53:17pm

Worth1000 has the best photoshop contests on the web.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 1:53:41pm

When will the RoPers begin rioting?

Fenway_Nation Mon, May 4, 2009 1:54:39pm

That looks like one intelligently designed caveman.

/white smoke

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 1:55:49pm

"Barney Rubble...What an actor."
-Night Shift

slotgun Mon, May 4, 2009 1:55:54pm

They have blasphemed the Fred One! The infidels must die!

MacGregor Mon, May 4, 2009 1:56:33pm

re: #3 Fenway_Nation

That looks like one intelligently designed caveman.

/white smoke

I would say he looks like the republican party when confronted with creationism.

HelloDare Mon, May 4, 2009 1:57:02pm

This is great. Thanks, Charles.

albusteve Mon, May 4, 2009 1:57:32pm

the Homerage of War...hahaha!....some good stuff in there

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 1:58:09pm

"Go Go Gadget Van Gogh!"

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

reloadingisnotahobby Mon, May 4, 2009 1:59:49pm

Ha!
Not work safe?
Damn..I needed a good laugh!

Leonidas Hoplite Mon, May 4, 2009 2:01:12pm

Awesome - I like the one Futurama one that's a spoof of that Queen album cover...what was the name of that album...

Truck Monkey Mon, May 4, 2009 2:02:36pm

Homer the VIII. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Randall Gross Mon, May 4, 2009 2:02:58pm

wait... is this from that group that thinks "The Flintstones" is a documentary?

Desert Dog Mon, May 4, 2009 2:03:08pm

Beavis and Butthead get my vote. Poor Whistler's Mother.

capitalist piglet Mon, May 4, 2009 2:03:45pm

re: #13 Thanos

wait... is this from that group that thinks "The Flintstones" is a documentary?

Please. Everyone knows it's a reality show. Duh.

Vicious Babushka Mon, May 4, 2009 2:03:56pm

I used to enter Photoshop contests at freakingnews.com and bressler.org. I don't know why I stopped, it was fun.

I use Photoshop every day, for boring work.

doppelganglander Mon, May 4, 2009 2:03:58pm

I like the two variations on the Velasquez. Here's the one in which the Infanta is dressed as Princess Peach. In the other one she's Dora the Explorer.

Charles Johnson Mon, May 4, 2009 2:04:49pm

Stalker blogs are shrieking like banshees about my Melanie Phillips post, of course.

These poor morons have let me completely inhabit their minds. Imagine their misery when I crank up the Captain Beefheart in there.

CapeCoddah Mon, May 4, 2009 2:04:49pm

Funny, Good stuff. Hello everyone!

Diamond Bullet Mon, May 4, 2009 2:06:10pm

Not quite as highbrow, but Cracked has some of the funniest photoshop contests on the intertubes.

[Link: www.cracked.com...]
[Link: www.cracked.com...]

Fenway_Nation Mon, May 4, 2009 2:06:51pm

re: #19 CapeCoddah

Hey there Cape Coddah- ready to watch some Home Run Derby in the Bronx tonight?

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 2:06:57pm

Why didn't Wilma let Fred back into the house in the closing credits?

zombie Mon, May 4, 2009 2:07:05pm

Question:

I want to download a free iPhone app.

I've never done this before, so I didn't know how to do it. Turns out one needs to go to the "iTunes" store to download the app.

When I tried, it said I had to "log in" to iTunes with my Apple account. Never done that before either, but I did have an old Apple account for when I ask questions on the Apple tech discussion boards. So I logged in with that account.

But then I get a new screen saying that before I can get a proper iTunes account, I need to give them my credit card info!

Now, I don't want to give them my credit card info, because I'm not actually buying anything. I just want to download a FREE app.

I tried entering random numbers as the credit card info, but it said it wasn't a "valid number," which means they're checking the cards against a database of card numbers.

So my question is: How can I work around this roadblock? Is there any way to download a free iPhone app that doesn't entail giving out one's credit card info?

Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 2:07:23pm

Wil-MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

capitalist piglet Mon, May 4, 2009 2:07:37pm

re: #22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why didn't Wilma let Fred back into the house in the closing credits?

Maybe he had sex with another drawing.

Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 2:08:04pm

re: #22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why didn't Wilma let Fred back into the house in the closing credits?

A problem that today would be cured with a little blue pill.

Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 2:08:36pm

re: #18 Charles

Stalker blogs are shrieking like banshees about my Melanie Phillips post, of course.

These poor morons have let me completely inhabit their minds. Imagine their misery when I crank up the Captain Beefheart in there.

So that's why Ron Paul got a blimp.
Wait 'till he gives a speech in a trout mask replica.

Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 2:08:51pm

re: #18 Charles

Stalker blogs are shrieking like banshees about my Melanie Phillips post, of course.

These poor morons have let me completely inhabit their minds. Imagine their misery when I crank up the Captain Beefheart in there.

Have you gotten a reply from Melanie yet?

Ben Hur Mon, May 4, 2009 2:09:15pm

I like the Napoleon one.

CapeCoddah Mon, May 4, 2009 2:09:45pm

re: #21 Fenway_Nation

Hey there Cape Coddah- ready to watch some Home Run Derby in the Bronx tonight?

Hey! I will be watching! Another sweep would be sweet!

doppelganglander Mon, May 4, 2009 2:09:49pm

re: #23 zombie

I'm no expert, but I'm guessing not. When I got my iPod I set up iTunes just to organize my music from CDs, with no intention of ever buying anything. I could not complete the set up without giving them a credit card number. You could probably check the terms of service to see how they use the number and whether they retain it beyond initial verification.

Randall Gross Mon, May 4, 2009 2:10:55pm

My favorite

[Link: www.worth1000.com...]

wrenchwench Mon, May 4, 2009 2:11:11pm

re: #18 Charles

Stalker blogs are shrieking like banshees about my Melanie Phillips post, of course.

That reminds me. How are the brakes on your Schwinn? Still noisy?

Soona' Mon, May 4, 2009 2:11:48pm

re: #31 doppelganglander

I'm no expert, but I'm guessing not. When I got my iPod I set up iTunes just to organize my music from CDs, with no intention of ever buying anything. I could not complete the set up without giving them a credit card number. You could probably check the terms of service to see how they use the number and whether they retain it beyond initial verification.

Or you could just listen to radio.

Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, May 4, 2009 2:11:57pm

Image: mickeys_last_supper.jpg

Ben Hur Mon, May 4, 2009 2:13:02pm

Petty: White House Permanently Deletes Bush-Era Twitter Archive

Before The One, there was only the Nothing.

Charles Johnson Mon, May 4, 2009 2:13:04pm

re: #33 wrenchwench

That reminds me. How are the brakes on your Schwinn? Still noisy?

Yeah, still noisy. I tried a few things, but nothing worked. I'm just putting up with it right now.

May replace with better disc brakes, but the whole idea of getting this bike was to have a cheapo, not one that I'd upgrade...

doppelganglander Mon, May 4, 2009 2:13:10pm

re: #34 Soona'

Or you could just listen to radio.

Have you listened to the radio lately? No thank you.

Kragar Mon, May 4, 2009 2:13:12pm

re: #23 zombie

About the valid number, part of any credit card sequence has certain identifiers, so the fact you're using a Visa, MC, or American Express can be determined thru just the number you enter. They don't have to have a list saying whether an account is valid, but the sequence itself says whether the number you enter is actually a card number as opposed to random junk

Vicious Babushka Mon, May 4, 2009 2:13:27pm

re: #23 zombie

Question:

I want to download a free iPhone app.

I've never done this before, so I didn't know how to do it. Turns out one needs to go to the "iTunes" store to download the app.

When I tried, it said I had to "log in" to iTunes with my Apple account. Never done that before either, but I did have an old Apple account for when I ask questions on the Apple tech discussion boards. So I logged in with that account.

But then I get a new screen saying that before I can get a proper iTunes account, I need to give them my credit card info!

Now, I don't want to give them my credit card info, because I'm not actually buying anything. I just want to download a FREE app.

I tried entering random numbers as the credit card info, but it said it wasn't a "valid number," which means they're checking the cards against a database of card numbers.

So my question is: How can I work around this roadblock? Is there any way to download a free iPhone app that doesn't entail giving out one's credit card info?

It's probably one of these "opt out FReebie" scams in which they sign you up for a subscription to something and give you the first month free, then charge your phone service $9.00 a month for freaking ever.

quickjustice Mon, May 4, 2009 2:13:37pm

Cool site. Disney and Warner were the classic Californians!

AMER1CAN Mon, May 4, 2009 2:13:57pm

re: #23 zombie

I was just reading about this today. Here ya go. Lot of places with info about this.

[Link: www.theappledaily.com...]

Fenway_Nation Mon, May 4, 2009 2:14:02pm

re: #33 wrenchwench

That reminds me....might as well open up a Siouxsie & The Banshees video in another window.

Spare O'Lake Mon, May 4, 2009 2:14:12pm

Wilma couldn't hear him at the door - the vacuum mastodon was turned on.

doppelganglander Mon, May 4, 2009 2:14:45pm

Here's another contest that's amusing: Animal Renaissance

Desert Dog Mon, May 4, 2009 2:15:04pm

re: #36 Ben Hur

Petty: White House Permanently Deletes Bush-Era Twitter Archive

Before The One, there was only the Nothing.

We will not make that mistake again. Once Obama is voted out, we will send all of the Tweets to the AG and start the witch hunting!

/payback is a beee-atch

Truck Monkey Mon, May 4, 2009 2:15:05pm

re: #37 Charles

Yeah, still noisy. I tried a few things, but nothing worked. I'm just putting up with it right now.

May replace with better disc brakes, but the whole idea of getting this bike was to have a cheapo, not one that I'd upgrade...

Vegetable Oil or WD-40 will solve the squeaking problem. It will solve the braking problem too. A twofer!

eon Mon, May 4, 2009 2:15:13pm

re: #23 zombie

Question:

I want to download a free iPhone app.

I've never done this before, so I didn't know how to do it. Turns out one needs to go to the "iTunes" store to download the app.

When I tried, it said I had to "log in" to iTunes with my Apple account. Never done that before either, but I did have an old Apple account for when I ask questions on the Apple tech discussion boards. So I logged in with that account.

But then I get a new screen saying that before I can get a proper iTunes account, I need to give them my credit card info!

Now, I don't want to give them my credit card info, because I'm not actually buying anything. I just want to download a FREE app.

I tried entering random numbers as the credit card info, but it said it wasn't a "valid number," which means they're checking the cards against a database of card numbers.

So my question is: How can I work around this roadblock? Is there any way to download a free iPhone app that doesn't entail giving out one's credit card info?

To the best of my knowledge, no.

The "free app" gag is an example of a "lost leader" ploy- the objective being to acquire information about customers. The fact that they check it against a master list tells me that their primary objective is to build a profile for the purpose of targeted advertising (i.e., they want to know your icome bracket/usual monthly expenditures to determine what you are likely to buy). That's the "innocent" explanation.

Then of course there's the sinister one, in which their acquisition of account information could lead to identity theft, or worse. iTunes, I might add, is a subsidiary of Yahoo!, which is renowned for having some of the worst (i.e., nonfunctional or just plain nonexistent) "security" on the Net. (TIAM; I have a Yahoo! account. I use Firefox for everything but email. Nuff said.)

I'd pass this one by.

/Just IMHO.

cheers

eon

doppelganglander Mon, May 4, 2009 2:16:25pm

re: #42 AMER1CAN

I was just reading about this today. Here ya go. Lot of places with info about this.

[Link: www.theappledaily.com...]

Spiffy!

AMER1CAN Mon, May 4, 2009 2:16:32pm

You can absolutely download the free apps without a credit card. See my 42 or just do a google search for how to create an itunes account without a credit card.

Fenway_Nation Mon, May 4, 2009 2:17:07pm

re: #47 Truck Monkey

And the aroma of French fires will be present every time the brakes are applied.

zombie Mon, May 4, 2009 2:17:33pm

re: #42 AMER1CAN

I was just reading about this today. Here ya go. Lot of places with info about this.

[Link: www.theappledaily.com...]

Wow -- thanks!

And thanks to all other respondents as well!

Soona' Mon, May 4, 2009 2:18:03pm

re: #40 Alouette

It's probably one of these "opt out FReebie" scams in which they sign you up for a subscription to something and give you the first month free, then charge your phone service $9.00 a month for freaking ever.

And the only way you can stop payments is to send a certified copy of your life story and a cashiers check that has to be delivered personally to their offices in Dogurine, Canada.

Vicious Babushka Mon, May 4, 2009 2:18:26pm

re: #16 Alouette

I used to enter Photoshop contests at freakingnews.com and bressler.org. I don't know why I stopped, it was fun.

I use Photoshop every day, for boring work.

I know the reason I stopped. These worth1000 spoofs are ultra professional. No way can I compete with something like that. These people got mad skillz.

Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 2:19:34pm

re: #37 Charles

Yeah, still noisy. I tried a few things, but nothing worked. I'm just putting up with it right now.

May replace with better disc brakes, but the whole idea of getting this bike was to have a cheapo, not one that I'd upgrade...

They must be Wagner pads. I put a set of Wagner EDGE pads (top of the line) on my truck, and they squeak (with new rotors, too). Plus, after a few high-effort stops, it's fade city. The Ford pads were much better, except that they dusted like crazy, where the Wagners don't.

zombie Mon, May 4, 2009 2:19:37pm

re: #48 eon

Then of course there's the sinister one, in which their acquisition of account information could lead to identity theft, or worse. iTunes, I might add, is a subsidiary of Yahoo!, which is renowned for having some of the worst (i.e., nonfunctional or just plain nonexistent) "security" on the Net. (TIAM; I have a Yahoo! account. I use Firefox for everything but email. Nuff said.)

No -- iTunes is part of Apple, not Yahoo.

Apple protects its data better than any company in the US, but I still don't want my credit card in their database, for any reason.

Fenway_Nation Mon, May 4, 2009 2:20:47pm

re: #56 zombie

Would getting one of those pre-paid credit cards at the grocery stores be feasable?

Ward Cleaver Mon, May 4, 2009 2:21:18pm

re: #36 Ben Hur

Petty: White House Permanently Deletes Bush-Era Twitter Archive

Before The One, there was only the Nothing.

What a prick.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:21:42pm

re: #56 zombie

No -- iTunes is part of Apple, not Yahoo.

Apple protects its data better than any company in the US, but I still don't want my credit card in their database, for any reason.

It's not like it is all that hard to find personal financial data on line.

I do understand and agree with your distrust and dislike of willy-nilly handing out personal info, though.

capitalist piglet Mon, May 4, 2009 2:22:29pm

re: #44 Spare O'Lake

Wilma couldn't hear him at the door - the vacuum mastodon was turned on.

Hey, whatever they do in the privacy of their own...oh, sorry. Misunderstood.

(That does it. I think it's time for piglet to find something constructive to do.)

Spare O'Lake Mon, May 4, 2009 2:23:24pm

re: #53 Soona'

And the only way you can stop payments is to send a certified copy of your life story and a cashiers check that has to be delivered personally to their offices in Dogurine, Canada.

Please don't make fun of the in-laws' home town.

eon Mon, May 4, 2009 2:23:46pm

re: #56 zombie

No -- iTunes is part of Apple, not Yahoo.

Apple protects its data better than any company in the US, but I still don't want my credit card in their database, for any reason.

I stand corrected. I assumed iTunes=Yahoo due to their constant barrage of iTunes store ads in my inbox- which, I might add, I never signed up for and seems to be upgraded automatically every time they upgrade my Yahoo account software.

/Which won't let me block them or mark them as spam, either

cheers

eon

Killian Bundy Mon, May 4, 2009 2:23:51pm

Emanuel: Thwarting Iran hinges on Israeli-Palestinian talks

Thwarting Iran's nuclear program is conditional on progress in peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, according to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

World Israeli TV reports said Monday that Emanuel made the comments in a closed-door meeting the previous day with 300 major AIPAC donors.

/how insane is that statement?

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:23:58pm

re: #36 Ben Hur

Petty: White House Permanently Deletes Bush-Era Twitter Archive

Before The One, there was only the Nothing.

The arrogance and narcissism of Teh (sic) One is just so fucking ginormous.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:25:14pm

re: #62 eon

I stand corrected. I assumed iTunes=Yahoo due to their constant barrage of iTunes store ads in my inbox- which, I might add, I never signed up for and seems to be upgraded automatically every time they upgrade my Yahoo account software.

/Which won't let me block them or mark them as spam, either

cheers

eon

yahoo! is like Charles, likes money from ads, even if he doesn't agree with the content. The difference is that Charles won't spam our inboxes. ;)

Kragar Mon, May 4, 2009 2:25:49pm

re: #63 Killian Bundy

Emanuel: Thwarting Iran hinges on Israeli-Palestinian talks

/how insane is that statement?

Personally, I support the 2 state solution. Jordan and Israel. Now we just have to deal with the squatters.

Soona' Mon, May 4, 2009 2:25:56pm

re: #61 Spare O'Lake

Please don't make fun of the in-laws' home town.

Oops. Sorry. I know there's probably some very nice people in Dogurine. Your in-laws included. ;)

AMER1CAN Mon, May 4, 2009 2:26:00pm

re: #56 zombie

No -- iTunes is part of Apple, not Yahoo.

Apple protects its data better than any company in the US, but I still don't want my credit card in their database, for any reason.

Do you use your credit card at a restaurant ever? How about to pay for gas? Buy groceries? Your card is just as exposed, in fact more so at those places, then using your credit card at the iTunes store.

Downloading stuff off itunes is great. I resisted for many months even after having an iPhone. I only download free apps and music. Then late one night, probably drunk, I started downloading songs from iTunes and was shocked at how easy and convenient it was. I'm sold on it and have no problems with Apple having my credit card #.

Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 4, 2009 2:26:36pm

re: #63 Killian Bundy

Emanuel: Thwarting Iran hinges on Israeli-Palestinian talks

/how insane is that statement?

We started discussing it on a previous thread.
It is completely backwards. The Paliterrorists will never accept Israel as a Jewish state as long as Iran is backing them.
All this would do is force Israel to have a terrorist state next door, and Iran would still get nukes.

pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, May 4, 2009 2:26:43pm

Scrolling through those cartoons (and they were quite good!), I began to realize, once again, how out-of-touch I have become with the popular culture.

/thank god!

KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 2:26:52pm

re: #63 Killian Bundy

Emanuel: Thwarting Iran hinges on Israeli-Palestinian talks

/how insane is that statement?

What planet has he been living on? Do you think the Dr Evil pose in the photo was deliberate?

Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 2:26:59pm

Let's speculate about the next generation iPhone, which may or may not be coming out next month.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:27:52pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Let's speculate about the next generation iPhone, which may or may not be coming out next month.

Sounds like Microsoft or Blizzard setting release dates.

Kragar Mon, May 4, 2009 2:27:59pm

re: #71 KenJen

What planet has he been living on? Do you think the Dr Evil pose in the photo was deliberate?

*sniff sniff* Damn, where did I stick this last?

KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 2:28:57pm

re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

*sniff sniff* Damn, where did I stick this last?

Quick. Smell my finger.

brookly red Mon, May 4, 2009 2:29:44pm

re: #63 Killian Bundy

Emanuel: Thwarting Iran hinges on Israeli-Palestinian talks
/how insane is that statement?

The powers that be may just regret backing Israel into a corner.

Spare O'Lake Mon, May 4, 2009 2:29:52pm

re: #63 Killian Bundy

Emanuel: Thwarting Iran hinges on Israeli-Palestinian talks

/how insane is that statement?

It's just Obama's slimy way of telling Israel to get ready for a nuclear Iran.

eon Mon, May 4, 2009 2:29:57pm

re: #63 Killian Bundy

Emanuel: Thwarting Iran hinges on Israeli-Palestinian talks

/how insane is that statement?

Almost as insane as Hillary "warning" Israel that it "risks losing the support of Arab states if they don't "move ahead" with negotiations with the Palestinians.

eon to Hillary;

Exactly which parallel universe have you been practicing diplomacy in, recently?

"Arab support" for Israel is rather like Germany's interest in "peaceful relations" with Poland- on August 31, 1939.

/Meaning, the tanks aren't rolling- yet.

cheers

eon

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:30:02pm

re: #75 KenJen

Quick. Smell my finger.

I don't even smell MY fingers, never know where they've been.

goddessoftheclassroom Mon, May 4, 2009 2:31:03pm

re: #70 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Since it's a kitteh and not a coyote (which is sort of like a dog), this is probably work...

Killian Bundy Mon, May 4, 2009 2:31:03pm

re: #75 KenJen

Quick. Smell my finger.

Pull my finger.

/BARAAACK!

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 2:31:45pm

re: #80 goddessoftheclassroom

Hiya Goddess!

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:31:55pm

re: #77 Spare O'Lake

It's just Obama's slimy way of telling Israel to get ready for a nuclear Iran.

That's not slimy, just uber-nuanced. You need to use that Lib-English dictionary again.

FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:33:03pm

re: #76 brookly red

The powers that be may just regret backing Israel into a corner.

The only regret will be allowing Israel to defend itself.

albusteve Mon, May 4, 2009 2:33:05pm

re: #77 Spare O'Lake

It's just Obama's slimy way of telling Israel to get ready for a nuclear Iran.

if Israel deals with Iran in the half assed fashion they dealt with Gaza, they deserve a nuclear Iran, nicked and bruised

zombie Mon, May 4, 2009 2:33:08pm

re: #42 AMER1CAN

I was just reading about this today. Here ya go. Lot of places with info about this.

[Link: www.theappledaily.com...]

Ouch.

Tragically, that technique no longer works. Apple removed the "None" no-payment option.

Grrrrrrrrr!

Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 2:33:44pm

re: #48 eon

Then of course there's the sinister one, in which their acquisition of account information could lead to identity theft, or worse.

I think it's to identify your location, so they can pick you up for FEMA camp.

Um, more seriously... I think it's just built on the assumption that you're "supposed" to be a paying iPhone/AT&T customer in order to access the iTunes store, even for the free apps.

Soona' Mon, May 4, 2009 2:34:28pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Let's speculate about the next generation iPhone, which may or may not be coming out next month.

I really don't understand much of the article. But maybe I'll break down and actually buy one next month. Now that the decision is made, I ask myself: Will I use it?

AMER1CAN Mon, May 4, 2009 2:34:33pm

re: #86 zombie

Ouch.

Tragically, that technique no longer works. Apple removed the "None" no-payment option.

Grrrrrrrrr!

ha!

Try this. It can still be done.

[Link: support.apple.com...]

goddessoftheclassroom Mon, May 4, 2009 2:35:27pm

re: #82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hiya Goddess!

{FBV}

vxbush Mon, May 4, 2009 2:35:42pm

re: #88 Soona'

I really don't understand much of the article. But maybe I'll break down and actually buy one next month. Now that the decision is made, I ask myself: Will I use it?

I will be happy to take it off your hands and use it for you. :D

Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 2:35:50pm

re: #88 Soona'

I really don't understand much of the article. But maybe I'll break down and actually buy one next month. Now that the decision is made, I ask myself: Will I use it?

I think you'll be surprised. I was never a heavy cellphone or PDA user. But my iPhone has become a close, personal friend!

zombie Mon, May 4, 2009 2:36:23pm

re: #68 AMER1CAN

Do you use your credit card at a restaurant ever? How about to pay for gas? Buy groceries? Your card is just as exposed, in fact more so at those places, then using your credit card at the iTunes store.

Nope. I only use my credit card in emergencies. I do not use in normal daily transactions. For the very reason you describe.

Downloading stuff off itunes is great. I resisted for many months even after having an iPhone. I only download free apps and music. Then late one night, probably drunk, I started downloading songs from iTunes and was shocked at how easy and convenient it was. I'm sold on it and have no problems with Apple having my credit card #.

I don't buy stuff online. Period. It's an eccentricity of mine.

I've never entered my credit card number into my computer, and I never will. (Until Big Brother makes me, at least.)

goddessoftheclassroom Mon, May 4, 2009 2:36:29pm

re: #92 Occasional Reader

I think you'll be surprised. I was never a heavy cellphone or PDA user. But my iPhone has become a close, personal friend!

I don't have an iPhone because I use Verizon, but I love my iPod Touch.

DEZes Mon, May 4, 2009 2:36:45pm

Fun art, nothing better.
Grass is mowed and I am here for a bit.
Hello all.

Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 2:37:03pm

re: #89 AMER1CAN

ha!

Try this. It can still be done.

[Link: support.apple.com...]

Just goes to prove the old saying, "if at first you don't succeed, try reading the directions."

Spare O'Lake Mon, May 4, 2009 2:37:10pm

re: #92 Occasional Reader

I think you'll be surprised. I was never a heavy cellphone or PDA user. But my iPhone has become a close, personal friend!

That vibrating feature is awesome, isn't it?

Soona' Mon, May 4, 2009 2:37:21pm

re: #79 FurryOldGuyJeans

I don't even smell MY fingers, never know where they've been.

I'm smelling mine now. And I know where they've been.

Killian Bundy Mon, May 4, 2009 2:38:21pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Let's speculate about the next generation iPhone, which may or may not be coming out next month.

RIM zoomed past Apple during Q1, sold twice as many phones as Apple

How 'bout that Blackberry?

/gots me a RIMM trade going

100

Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 2:38:24pm

re: #68 AMER1CAN

Your card is just as exposed

Your card is indeed "exposed", but the law is VERY MUCH on your side. The issuer has to prove you were negligent with your card, which it's usually not worth their while to do.

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zombie Mon, May 4, 2009 2:38:40pm

re: #89 AMER1CAN

ha!

Try this. It can still be done.

[Link: support.apple.com...]

Thanks. Will check it out.

Gotta run!

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KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 2:39:04pm

re: #95 DEZes

Fun art, nothing better.
Grass is mowed and I am here for a bit.
Hello all.

Hi DEZes. Did you see Beavis and Butthead mooning Whistler's Mother. That was my favorite.

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Ben Hur Mon, May 4, 2009 2:39:10pm

re: #58 Ward Cleaver

What a prick.

Yes.

He needs to be added to this:

[Link: www.eatliver.com...]

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DEZes Mon, May 4, 2009 2:40:21pm

re: #102 KenJen

Hi DEZes. Did you see Beavis and Butthead mooning Whistler's Mother. That was my favorite.

Yeah, most were good, some were very good.

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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 2:40:21pm

re: #99 Killian Bundy

Maybe so, but at least anecdotally, nobody I've talked to who's tried it seems all that taken with the Blackberry Storm.

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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:40:22pm

re: #98 Soona'

I'm smelling mine now. And I know where they've been.

Well, ain't you just special. ;)

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albusteve Mon, May 4, 2009 2:40:40pm

re: #92 Occasional Reader

I think you'll be surprised. I was never a heavy cellphone or PDA user. But my iPhone has become a close, personal friend!

I can't imagine...my lifestyle requires nothing more than a decent cell phone...and it's just a blob of plastic...I still buy CDs and surf the net on my home PC...I'm technically stagnant I guess

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AMER1CAN Mon, May 4, 2009 2:40:45pm

re: #92 Occasional Reader

I think you'll be surprised. I was never a heavy cellphone or PDA user. But my iPhone has become a close, personal friend!

I can even admit I was skeptical of the iPhone for many months. I even trash talked it a bit as "just another phone", and I was absolutely dead wrong once I got my own iphone. The only word I would use to describe it is "evolutionary". It's got 1 button for crying out loud! I'm no apple fan but even I can respect an awesome piece of technical ingenuity.

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eon Mon, May 4, 2009 2:41:18pm

re: #93 zombie

I don't buy stuff online. Period. It's an eccentricity of mine.

I've never entered my credit card number into my computer, and I never will. (Until Big Brother makes me, at least.)

I don't even have a credit card. Personal choice- I just object to the idea of paying interest, fees, etc., even when I wouldn't be using it.

For most things, I pay cash. Otherwise- check in the mail.

/Anyone who can't handle one or the other, I don't do business with.

cheers

eon

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Idle Drifter Mon, May 4, 2009 2:41:37pm

David slaying Inuyasha, finally someone ended that plot spin cycle. It was worse than Dragon Ball of using the same plot in every, single episode.

Courage should have been screaming then the picture would have been made from awesome.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 2:42:14pm

I won't be confused with JCM anymore. Killgore? Probably. But, not JCM.

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Soona' Mon, May 4, 2009 2:42:14pm

re: #94 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't have an iPhone because I use Verizon, but I love my iPod Touch.

Okay, Goddess. I trust you (maybe). Is there that much difference between the different iphone/ipod makers and services?

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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:43:22pm

re: #92 Occasional Reader

I think you'll be surprised. I was never a heavy cellphone or PDA user. But my iPhone has become a close, personal friend!

To be a cellphone user, other than for work, requires you have friends or relatives you want to talk to. Friends I have nada, and the relatives I want to keep as far away as possible. ;)

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albusteve Mon, May 4, 2009 2:44:33pm

re: #113 FurryOldGuyJeans

To be a cellphone user, other than for work, requires you have friends or relatives you want to talk to. Friends I have nada, and the relatives I want to keep as far away as possible. ;)

heh...I love it when my phone don't ring...I'm a bit reclusive you might say

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sandspur Mon, May 4, 2009 2:45:12pm

re: #36 Ben Hur

Petty: White House Permanently Deletes Bush-Era Twitter Archive

Before The One, there was only the Nothing.

And that's what we'll have after The One, too

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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:45:21pm

re: #112 Soona'

Okay, Goddess. I trust you (maybe). Is there that much difference between the different iphone/ipod makers and services?

Both the iPhone and iPod are specific brands made only by Apple. There are other phones and music sticks made by other companies, but they are not iPhones or iPods.

Yes, I pick nits, just as I would if someone were to use Xerox as a generic term.

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AMER1CAN Mon, May 4, 2009 2:45:25pm

I do not have a single traditional credit card. I have only a single debit card issued from my bank.

Cash is king in my world.

Pay in. Pay out.

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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 2:45:50pm

My favorites: the Klimt "Johnny Bravo", the Botero "Family Guy", and the Dora the Explorer "Las Meninas".

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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 4, 2009 2:46:25pm

re: #114 albusteve

heh...I love it when my phone don't ring...I'm a bit reclusive you might say

Mine only rings because I got a recycled land-line number from some woman avoiding some very harassing creditors.

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KenJen Mon, May 4, 2009 2:47:06pm

re: #114 albusteve

heh...I love it when my phone don't ring...I'm a bit reclusive you might say

I had mine turned off all weekend. No computer either. I love being reclusive every now and then.

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jcm Mon, May 4, 2009 2:47:37pm

re: #99 Killian Bundy

RIM zoomed past Apple during Q1, sold twice as many phones as Apple

How 'bout that Blackberry?

/gots me a RIMM trade going

RIM is driving me nuts. Their projections were low, and now we're madly scrambling to fill their demand. Due to the down turn we've got the capacity, but it takes time to spin up for that much demand.

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albusteve Mon, May 4, 2009 2:47:53pm

re: #117 AMER1CAN

I do not have a single traditional credit card. I have only a single debit card issued from my bank.

Cash is king in my world.

Pay in. Pay out.

agreed...I have two debit cards and I scrap them about every three months or so...I hide my cash

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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 2:48:02pm

re: #109 eon

Personal choice- I just object to the idea of paying interest, fees, etc., even when I wouldn't be using it.

Nobody makes you pay interest. Many cards, you don't have to pay any fees, either.

I use cards as a cash substitute (that get me airline miles), and pay my bill in full every month.

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Soona' Mon, May 4, 2009 2:48:56pm

re: #117 AMER1CAN

I do not have a single traditional credit card. I have only a single debit card issued from my bank.

Cash is king in my world.

Pay in. Pay out.

I just travel too much not to have a credit card. If it's used wisely and paid off every month, then there won't be any problems.

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LGoPs Mon, May 4, 2009 2:48:57pm

re: #122 albusteve

agreed...I have two debit cards and I scrap them about every three months or so...I hide my cash

I barter. Wampum and colored beads are my currency.....
/

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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, May 4, 2009 2:48:59pm

re: #80 goddessoftheclassroom

Since it's a kitteh and not a coyote (which is sort of like a dog), this is probably work...

LOL!
Odd that you'd see one there (lawn indicates "inside-town").

In Tucson, one would sit on my beam antenna (30' mast) and anoint the surroundings below. His contributions stood out strikingly on the brown paint.

And now, to continue ... a contribution courtesy of JCM.

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eon Mon, May 4, 2009 2:49:11pm

re: #117 AMER1CAN

I do not have a single traditional credit card. I have only a single debit card issued from my bank.

Cash is king in my world.

Pay in. Pay out.

I have a debit card, too. It came with my checking account. I use it to get cash out of my bank's ATM.

/If they let the number get out, it's their problem, not mine, and I'll be the one telling them so.

cheers

eon

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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, May 4, 2009 2:49:33pm

re: #112 Soona'

Okay, Goddess. I trust you (maybe). Is there that much difference between the different iphone/ipod makers and services?

Verizon was the cell phone service offered in my area, and they've been wonderful. As FurryOldGuyJeans says above, calls within the same network don't "count" towards your monthly minutes. I've never compared another provider because I've been so pleased with Verizon--their service has been outstanding.

However, iPhones only work with AT&T. Verizon promotes the Blackberry line. I don't need all the bells and whistles the extra bells and whistles cost. I have the Verizon nV--I love the QWERTY keyboard because it's easier to text (which is great for keeping in contact with my kids.)

I use my iPod for music, wifi, alarm clock, calendar, contacts, even a flashlight. It's much lighter , less expensive, and more versatile that the iPaq I used to have (and HP seems to be phasing them out.) The free apps are a lot of fun--I paid for just one so far.

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AMER1CAN Mon, May 4, 2009 2:51:59pm

re: #121 jcm

RIM is driving me nuts. Their projections were low, and now we're madly scrambling to fill their demand. Due to the down turn we've got the capacity, but it takes time to spin up for that much demand.

Those are very misleading numbers. A good portion of those phones were part of a buy one get one free deal that's been going on for a long time.

Once could say that of all phones sold, RIM had to give away half of them. That's a bit of a stretch, but they did give away a ton of phones as part of a package deal.

No such deals exists for the iPhone like the 2 for 1 deal being offered on blackberry's.

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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, May 4, 2009 2:52:07pm

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I won't be confused with JCM anymore. Killgore? Probably. But, not JCM.

Killgore!
Hi there!
Gee, I see you changed your nic!

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albusteve Mon, May 4, 2009 2:52:13pm

re: #125 LGoPs

I barter. Wampum and colored beads are my currency.....
/

good idea...I'm fixin to be totally under the radar if I can clear up one last miff with the IRS...I hate those thieves

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DEZes Mon, May 4, 2009 2:53:06pm

re: #130 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Killgore!
Hi there!
Gee, I see you changed your nic!

Lost weight too.

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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, May 4, 2009 2:53:26pm

re: #126 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL!
Odd that you'd see one there (lawn indicates "inside-town").

In Tucson, one would sit on my beam antenna (30' mast) and anoint the surroundings below. His contributions stood out strikingly on the brown paint.

And now, to continue ... a contribution courtesy of JCM.

MWAH! (I realized I forgot to add that to my first post!)

That video is ADORABLE!

But I bet I know what happened to the puppies later...

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LGoPs Mon, May 4, 2009 2:53:54pm

re: #132 DEZes

Lost weight too.

He should change his nic to Eater of Cake.....
:)

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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 2:54:20pm

re: #127 eon

/If they let the number get out, it's their problem, not mine

Well... in the first instance, it'll be your problem, because your account will be drained. That sort of makes it your problem.

In contrast, if I find an errant charge on my credit card bill (which has happened), I'm not actually out any money yet. Not only does the law protect me, but I have practical leverage vis a vis the card issuer; I tell 'em "not my charge, I'm not paying", and right from the get-go the problem is theirs.

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DEZes Mon, May 4, 2009 2:54:56pm

re: #134 LGoPs

He should change his nic to Eater of Cake.....
:)

Vegetarians can has cake?

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SixDegrees Mon, May 4, 2009 2:55:54pm

re: #23 zombie

Question:

I want to download a free iPhone app.

I've never done this before, so I didn't know how to do it. Turns out one needs to go to the "iTunes" store to download the app.

When I tried, it said I had to "log in" to iTunes with my Apple account. Never done that before either, but I did have an old Apple account for when I ask questions on the Apple tech discussion boards. So I logged in with that account.

But then I get a new screen saying that before I can get a proper iTunes account, I need to give them my credit card info!

Now, I don't want to give them my credit card info, because I'm not actually buying anything. I just want to download a FREE app.

I tried entering random numbers as the credit card info, but it said it wasn't a "valid number," which means they're checking the cards against a database of card numbers.

So my question is: How can I work around this roadblock? Is there any way to download a free iPhone app that doesn't entail giving out one's credit card info?

As others have pointed out, the number itself is internally self-consistent, which allows things like simple web browser scripts to perform validation. No need to contact the card company.

Here's an explanation of the algorithm used for validation. I haven't examined it in detail, but it might be possible to cook up a "valid" number from this information just to get past the roadblock Apple has set up.

You could also use an expired card, but that would still trace back to you if anyone was really interested.

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Killian Bundy Mon, May 4, 2009 2:55:56pm

re: #127 eon

I have a debit card, too. It came with my checking account. I use it to get cash out of my bank's ATM.

/If they let the number get out, it's their problem, not mine, and I'll be the one telling them so.

cheers

eon

If anyone does get your number, they can wipe out your entire debit card balance and you're liable for the whole thing.

/with a credit card, by law, your fraud liability is limited to $50, as long as you notify the issuer in a timely fashion

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LGoPs Mon, May 4, 2009 2:56:52pm

re: #135 Occasional Reader

Well... in the first instance, it'll be your problem, because your account will be drained. That sort of makes it your problem.

In contrast, if I find an errant charge on my credit card bill (which has happened), I'm not actually out any money yet. Not only does the law protect me, but I have practical leverage vis a vis the card issuer; I tell 'em "not my charge, I'm not paying", and right from the get-go the problem is theirs.

Agreed. That why I rarely if ever use my debit card, other than at the occasional ATM. if somebody gets the debit card account, they're immmediately into your money. With the credit card, if the number gets stolen, I can dispute it as long as I'm reasonably diligent and review my bill for bogus charges.

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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, May 4, 2009 2:57:24pm

re: #133 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH! (I realized I forgot to add that to my first post!)

That video is ADORABLE!

But I bet I know what happened to the puppies later...

MWAH!

The look on that cat's face makes the entire LOL !
I think th' mystery meat is the hand of whoever took that off its head.

You win!

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jcm Mon, May 4, 2009 2:57:26pm

re: #129 AMER1CAN

Those are very misleading numbers. A good portion of those phones were part of a buy one get one free deal that's been going on for a long time.

Once could say that of all phones sold, RIM had to give away half of them. That's a bit of a stretch, but they did give away a ton of phones as part of a package deal.

No such deals exists for the iPhone like the 2 for 1 deal being offered on blackberry's.

RIM maybe given the phones away, but they're buying chips! Lots of them.

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LGoPs Mon, May 4, 2009 2:57:31pm

re: #136 DEZes

Vegetarians can has cake?

I guess, as long as it's not meatcake........
:)

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jcm Mon, May 4, 2009 2:58:19pm

re: #126 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL!
Odd that you'd see one there (lawn indicates "inside-town").

In Tucson, one would sit on my beam antenna (30' mast) and anoint the surroundings below. His contributions stood out strikingly on the brown paint.

And now, to continue ... a contribution courtesy of JCM.

I disavow all knowledge of that video!

/;-P

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DEZes Mon, May 4, 2009 2:58:40pm

re: #142 LGoPs

I guess, as long as it's not meatcake........
:)

Eggs and milk, hmmm.
Thats cheating. ;)

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Soona' Mon, May 4, 2009 2:58:53pm

re: #128 goddessoftheclassroom

Verizon was the cell phone service offered in my area, and they've been wonderful. As FurryOldGuyJeans says above, calls within the same network don't "count" towards your monthly minutes. I've never compared another provider because I've been so pleased with Verizon--their service has been outstanding.

However, iPhones only work with AT&T. Verizon promotes the Blackberry line. I don't need all the bells and whistles the extra bells and whistles cost. I have the Verizon nV--I love the QWERTY keyboard because it's easier to text (which is great for keeping in contact with my kids.)

I use my iPod for music, wifi, alarm clock, calendar, contacts, even a flashlight. It's much lighter , less expensive, and more versatile that the iPaq I used to have (and HP seems to be phasing them out.) The free apps are a lot of fun--I paid for just one so far.

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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, May 4, 2009 2:59:40pm

re: #143 jcm

I disavow all knowledge of that video!

/;-P

*oops!*

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Killian Bundy Mon, May 4, 2009 3:00:00pm

re: #141 jcm

RIM maybe given the phones away, but they're buying chips! Lots of them.

You're making money on RIM, I'm making money on RIMM. I've got the trade on a tight trailing stop now so I'm guaranteed a good profit.

/it's all good

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Occasional Reader Mon, May 4, 2009 3:00:49pm

re: #141 jcm

RIM maybe given the phones away, but they're buying chips! Lots of them.

So thanks to RIM, lots of people are getting jobs.

We can call them, "RIM jobs".

/sorry

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Soona' Mon, May 4, 2009 3:01:00pm

re: #145 Soona'

Oops. What I was going to write was: Thanks Goddess.

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AMER1CAN Mon, May 4, 2009 3:01:17pm

re: #138 Killian Bundy

If anyone does get your number, they can wipe out your entire debit card balance and you're liable for the whole thing.

/with a credit card, by law, your fraud liability is limited to $50, as long as you notify the issuer in a timely fashion

I NEVER use my debit card as a true debit card because I do not like the idea of anyone going into my bank aco**** and "debiting" money out of it before I even get to walk out of the store.

Always run it through as credit so you get some protections on your purchase. If you use debit, once that money is gone, it's a lot harder to get it put back. If you put it on credit, you can dispute the charges before the money is taken out. So like you said, credit will give you protection where debit can be quite dangerous.

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Killgore Trout Mon, May 4, 2009 3:03:14pm

re: #130 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Killgore!
Hi there!
Gee, I see you changed your nic!

I'm still me.

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Soona' Mon, May 4, 2009 3:04:27pm

re: #150 AMER1CAN

I NEVER use my debit card as a true debit card because I do not like the idea of anyone going into my bank aco**** and "debiting" money out of it before I even get to walk out of the store.

Always run it through as credit so you get some protections on your purchase. If you use debit, once that money is gone, it's a lot harder to get it put back. If you put it on credit, you can dispute the charges before the money is taken out. So like you said, credit will give you protection where debit can be quite dangerous.

.......What vacation. I didn't take any vacation, especially to Rio deJanerio. What would I want to do there.............

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SixDegrees Mon, May 4, 2009 3:04:34pm

re: #137 SixDegrees

As others have pointed out, the number itself is internally self-consistent, which allows things like simple web browser scripts to perform validation. No need to contact the card company.

Here's an explanation of the algorithm used for validation. I haven't examined it in detail, but it might be possible to cook up a "valid" number from this information just to get past the roadblock Apple has set up.

You could also use an expired card, but that would still trace back to you if anyone was really interested.

A quick search with "generating credit card numbers" turns up a host of sites explaining the algorithm for doing this. I don't see anything illegal about it - the numbers generated can't be used for actual purchases, since they aren't tied to an actual account, don't have expiration dates, don't have those security codes on the back, and so on.

Not surprisingly, there are websites that will do all the work for you with a couple of clicks.

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Killian Bundy Mon, May 4, 2009 3:05:27pm

re: #150 AMER1CAN

I NEVER use my debit card as a true debit card because I do not like the idea of anyone going into my bank aco**** and "debiting" money out of it before I even get to walk out of the store.

Always run it through as credit so you get some protections on your purchase. If you use debit, once that money is gone, it's a lot harder to get it put back. If you put it on credit, you can dispute the charges before the money is taken out. So like you said, credit will give you protection where debit can be quite dangerous.

Although you use the "credit" button at the grocery store, it's still a debit card linked to your checking account, it's exactly like writing a check.

/trust me, you do not enjoy the same Federal fraud protection as if you were using a credit card

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 3:05:54pm

re: #136 DEZes

Vegetarians can has cake?

Yes We Can!

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AMER1CAN Mon, May 4, 2009 3:06:56pm

re: #154 Killian Bundy

Although you use the "credit" button at the grocery store, it's still a debit card linked to your checking account, it's exactly like writing a check.

/trust me, you do not enjoy the same Federal fraud protection as if you were using a credit card

I completely agree and know all about the rules and games. It's not the same as using an American Express. That's for sure.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 4, 2009 3:07:32pm

re: #143 jcm

OK, JCM.

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debutaunt Mon, May 4, 2009 3:07:42pm

re: #48 eon

Free? You can't afford it.

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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, May 4, 2009 3:11:34pm

re: #151 Killgore Trout