Tuesday Night Music: Randy Newman, ‘In Germany Before The War’

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An eerie, haunting song by Randy Newman, performed at the 2007 Jazz Open festival in Stuttgart: “In Germany Before the War.” The song is available on The Randy Newman Songbook, Vol. 1, a highly recommended collection of Randy’s classic songs rearranged for just voice and piano.

This is songwriting at its very best. He strips the narrative down to the bone, with almost no details. There are very few lyrics, and he plays games with them, letting the piano complete some of the phrases where you expect another line.

I consider this a real work of genius.

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1 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:28:57pm

haunting....but I always like RN

2 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:30:50pm

Very good performance.

3 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:31:12pm

What was that song Randy wrote years ago? Let's drop the big one and see what happens? A humorous and light hearted song..
I never thought in my lifetime I would see people take it to heart...

4 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:32:04pm

eariler Newman

5 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:36:53pm

re: #4 albusteve

eariler Newman


[Video]

"Political Science"

6 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:37:47pm

That song is very creepy. It gave me the chills.

7 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:38:32pm

re: #4 albusteve

eariler Newman


[Video]

Slash in the guest on American Idol.. He is just shredding on guitar

8 kynna  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:40:20pm

Wow. I've never heard that one. "Haunting" is right.

9 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:40:52pm

And this song relates the pedophelia of the narrator with the horrors yet to come.

Eerie indeed, but Randy never shies away from the tough issues. "Sail Away", covered by Ronstadt and others, was about the slave trade.

10 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:41:37pm

This is songwriting at its very best. He strips the narrative down to the bone, with almost no details. There are very few lyrics, and he plays games with them too, letting the piano complete some of the phrases where you expect another line.

I consider this a real work of genius.

11 HopsHunter  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:41:44pm

Wow. What intense images he paints with such spare phrases.

12 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:42:56pm

It reminds me of that Fritz Lang movie "M"

13 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:43:39pm

re: #10 Charles

This is songwriting at its very best. He strips the narrative down to the bone, with almost no details. There are very few lyrics, and he plays games with them too, letting the piano complete some of the phrases where you expect another line.

I consider this a real work of genius.

I agree..I always thought Tom Waite was like that as a songwriter...And he always had the best smokey bar room voice to tell the story..

14 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:44:03pm

*shiver*

15 kynna  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:45:06pm

re: #10 Charles

This is songwriting at its very best. He strips the narrative down to the bone, with almost no details. There are very few lyrics, and he plays games with them too, letting the piano complete some of the phrases where you expect another line.

I consider this a real work of genius.

I agree. The entire time listening I just kept thinking how simple it was. Which, of course, is why it's so effective. Not many artists know when to stop and let it all breathe. It makes all the difference, IMO.

16 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:46:31pm

quiet, dark, doom. damn good.

17 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:46:42pm

I wonder if the German audience felt uncomfortable with this one.

18 Gus  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:46:58pm

Haunting. When he gets to the line about the reflection in the glasses is when I understood the meaning.

I looked it up and it is based on "M" apparently. Also see Peter Kürten.

19 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:47:47pm

That's "pin-drop" music.

20 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:49:23pm
21 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:50:39pm

re: #13 HoosierHoops

I agree..I always thought Tom Waite was like that as a songwriter...And he always had the best smokey bar room voice to tell the story..

Speaking of which..You can forget
Warm beer and cold women
I was in a polyester joint last night called the three little pigs..

And you can see him there on his piano all alone telling great stories with his voice...And can barely see him through the cigarrette smoke and the one bright white light..
Now a days good song writers are considered those guys that can say I boned my girlfriend all night in an imaginative way with a heavy beat..
just Tom and his Piano telling stories..Some nights that's all you need

22 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:52:52pm

re: #21 HoosierHoops

Now a days good song writers are considered those guys that can say I boned my girlfriend all night in an imaginative way with a heavy beat..

He did it in an imaginative way or he says it in an imaginative way?

23 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:53:01pm

re: #17 Charles

"Yes, Ve are doomed and I am filled with remorse, and it is most delicious."

~Dieter

24 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:53:03pm

I can't believe I just asked that.

25 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:54:56pm

re: #22 MandyManners

He did it in an imaginative way or he says it in an imaginative way?

I mistyped that MM
I meant..Tom was a great songwriter..now-a-days Song writing is lacking...
I point back to She Bang selling millions..:)
Kind regards

26 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:55:13pm
27 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:55:24pm

my daughter is a friend of a piano player from Kalamazoo on AmIdol...is there such a guy?...maybe I have it wrong, I'm pretty square

28 rain of lead  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:55:53pm

re: #24 MandyManners

I can't believe I just asked that.

s'ok, you seem to be in a bit of a giddy mood today

29 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:58:05pm

re: #27 albusteve

my daughter is a friend of a piano player from Kalamazoo on AmIdol...is there such a guy?...maybe I have it wrong, I'm pretty square

Nope..There is a piano player on American Idol from there...
Its rock and roll night..turn it on..it's pretty good

30 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:58:20pm

re: #10 Charles

This is songwriting at its very best. He strips the narrative down to the bone, with almost no details. There are very few lyrics, and he plays games with them too, letting the piano complete some of the phrases where you expect another line.

I consider this a real work of genius.

Newman about his work....interesting

31 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:59:02pm

re: #29 HoosierHoops

Nope..There is a piano player on American Idol from there...
Its rock and roll night..turn it on..it's pretty good

rock and roll is evil....you have sinned

32 Gus  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:59:04pm

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

Interesting that it is claimed that "M" was based on "the Monster of Dusseldorf." The film begins with an adaptation of a song about Harmaan, the Ogre of Hanover, who picked up boys at the Hanover train station, slept with them, butchered them, and sold their flesh as black-market pork:

Wait a little, wait a little,
Here comes Harmaan
With his little chopper
He will cut you up

"Harmaan" was changed to "the child-murderer" in the film, and the murderer was shown as preying on little girls rather than teenage boys, but the song, at the time the film appeared, was sung about Harmaan.

That could be the case. Perhaps "M" was based on several characters.

33 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 5:59:32pm

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

Reminds me of the Pied Piper of Hamelin in a way.

34 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:00:37pm
35 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:01:22pm

If you like this then you will love the literary works of Kleist.

I see the genius. I can't get past the voice.

36 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:01:25pm
37 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:02:37pm

re: #31 albusteve

rock and roll is evil....you have sinned

ALOT!
I have a daughter that is a Led head.. I am a very proud father...Especially when we get in her car and she says..Let me know if this is too loud for you Pops....Warms my heart..and no It's never too loud
/I won't let them win..I went to a Grand Funk Concert for gawds sake...I couldn't hear anything but my heart beating for 2 days...

38 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:02:44pm

re: #35 Cato

If you like this then you will love the literary works of Kleist.

I see the genius. I can't get past the voice.

that's how I feel about Keith Richards

39 quickjustice  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:03:31pm

I heard Newman in concert at my college thirty years ago. I didn't like him at that time, but he's grown on me. I don't know if I've matured, or he has.

40 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:04:50pm

re: #36 buzzsawmonkey

Well, the Pied Piper does not kill the children; he merely steals them--and he does so because the city fathers reneg on their agreement:

"...but now our losses have made us thrifty.
A thousand guilders! Come, take fifty."

Wiki says that one version has him leading the kids into the river where they drowned.

41 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:04:54pm

re: #37 HoosierHoops

ALOT!
I have a daughter that is a Led head.. I am a very proud father...Especially when we get in her car and she says..Let me know if this is too loud for you Pops....Warms my heart..and no It's never too loud
/I won't let them win..I went to a Grand Funk Concert for gawds sake...I couldn't hear anything but my heart beating for 2 days...

been to a lot of gigs with my girl, 26yrs, a great music mate, she understands Delta style slide for example...some dads are just so cool eh?

42 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:05:11pm
43 Racer X  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:05:13pm

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

44 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:05:29pm

It is a brilliant song, sheer genius.
And his horrid voice is perfect for the delivery. I was truly grateful when he allowed the piano to sing some of the lines which I expected him to screech out.
Brilliant.

45 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:06:12pm

re: #39 quickjustice

I heard Newman in concert at my college thirty years ago. I didn't like him at that time, but he's grown on me. I don't know if I've matured, or he has.

I think the first song of his that I heard was the one about short people. I had to grudgingly admire it.

46 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:06:25pm

re: #43 Racer X

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

was this you?

47 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:07:56pm

re: #39 quickjustice

I heard Newman in concert at my college thirty years ago. I didn't like him at that time, but he's grown on me. I don't know if I've matured, or he has.

It's understandable..He really never went mainstream..And I think he is an acquired taste...Even then..I think he was always a little quirky in his song writing.. I loved that song he did about LA..We of NorCal loved any song we thought made fun of LA....
/Don't ban me Charles! LOL

48 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:08:04pm
49 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:08:04pm

re: #35 Cato

If you like this then you will love the literary works of Kleist.

I see the genius. I can't get past the voice.

I think you've got to look past that. It's the same with cats like Walter Hyatt, Zevon, Tom W., or Leonard Cohen. They make those tunes their own, because they are. (And those four, IMHO, are the best songwriters in the last thirty years on this continent.) Y'all can chime in w/ other nominees, but those guys are (or were in Warren's case) consistently special talents.

50 Archimedes  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:08:42pm

Yeow ... that's tough to listen to.

51 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:09:53pm
52 Archimedes  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:10:07pm

re: #35 Cato

If you like this then you will love the literary works of Kleist.

I see the genius. I can't get past the voice.

I have the same problem with the lead singer of Rush. Still, it's not really the quality of his voice that is being sold here.

53 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:10:29pm

re: #49 austin_blue

I think you've got to look past that. It's the same with cats like Walter Hyatt, Zevon, Tom W., or Leonard Cohen. They make those tunes their own, because they are. (And those four, IMHO, are the best songwriters in the last thirty years on this continent.) Y'all can chime in w/ other nominees, but those guys are (or were in Warren's case) consistently special talents.

Ack Ack! Five! Newman is in that bunch!

54 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:10:36pm

re: #36 buzzsawmonkey

Well, the Pied Piper does not kill the children; he merely steals them--and he does so because the city fathers reneg on their agreement:

"...but now our losses have made us thrifty.
A thousand guilders! Come, take fifty."

I always thought the Pied Piper legend was about the cult leaders who abducted children for the "Children's Crusade."

55 rain of lead  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:10:37pm

re: #34 momcat

hey,
nibblets about ready to get out of the tub and get to bed

56 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:11:14pm

re: #41 albusteve

been to a lot of gigs with my girl, 26yrs, a great music mate, she understands Delta style slide for example...some dads are just so cool eh?

Music with kids is what can often bring us together..
Even sometimes listing to 50 cent blasting out of my 16 year olds room can be trying to say the least..The sad thing is I'm starting to like some of his shit...

57 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:11:56pm

re: #21 HoosierHoops

I love Norah Jones because I always think that I have stumbled into some after-hours club in the Village and she is singing her favorite torch songs to an uncaring half-filled room. Her songs are a private pleasure.

58 brookly red  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:12:39pm

re: #56 HoosierHoops

Music with kids is what can often bring us together..
Even sometimes listing to 50 cent blasting out of my 16 year olds room can be trying to say the least..The sad thing is I'm starting to like some of his shit...

that's fity cent :)

59 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:13:29pm

re: #56 HoosierHoops

Music with kids is what can often bring us together..
Even sometimes listing to 50 cent blasting out of my 16 year olds room can be trying to say the least..The sad thing is I'm starting to like some of his shit...

see a doctor soon and get some help....really

60 Yankee Division Son  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:14:06pm

Truly Haunting...

61 dmandman  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:16:01pm

The only tunes that I consider "haunting" were done by CCR. Now those had some "haunting" lyrics.

62 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:16:12pm

So how about those Blue Jays?

63 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:16:42pm

re: #58 brookly red

that's fity cent :)

I watched his Movie with my kid.. get rich or die trying..And it was an excellent movie with a good groove..
I give it 3 stars...Cool gangsta movie....
/oh no..I went from Newman to 50 cent..mea cupa..I'll shut up..!

64 dmandman  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:16:44pm

re: #62 Spare O'Lake

They taste good in a pie.

65 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:18:01pm
66 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:18:16pm

re: #62 Spare O'Lake

So how about those Blue Jays?

Devastated by West Nile Virus down here in Tejas.

Oh, wait.....

67 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:18:43pm

re: #53 austin_blue


My own list is this: The best lyricist in the last 40 years is Roger Waters. Pete Townshend (for "Won't Get Fooled Again"), Neil Peart ("Trees") and Dylan ("Tangled Up in Blue" is just amazing) round it out.

68 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:19:44pm
69 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:20:56pm

re: #67 Cato

My own list is this: The best lyricist in the last 40 years is Roger Waters. Pete Townshend (for "Won't Get Fooled Again"), Neil Peart ("Trees") and Dylan ("Tangled Up in Blue" is just amazing) round it out.

Mick Jaggers lyrics are not for normal people...I see he didn't make the cut...heh

70 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:22:15pm

re: #67 Cato

My own list is this: The best lyricist in the last 40 years is Roger Waters. Pete Townshend (for "Won't Get Fooled Again"), Neil Peart ("Trees") and Dylan ("Tangled Up in Blue" is just amazing) round it out.

The Beatles? I heard they were pretty good writers..*wink*

71 kynna  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:24:21pm

re: #37 HoosierHoops

ALOT!
I have a daughter that is a Led head.. I am a very proud father...Especially when we get in her car and she says..Let me know if this is too loud for you Pops....Warms my heart..and no It's never too loud

My kids tell me to turn it down. LOL.

72 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:24:28pm

re: #67 Cato

My own list is this: The best lyricist in the last 40 years is Roger Waters. Pete Townshend (for "Won't Get Fooled Again"), Neil Peart ("Trees") and Dylan ("Tangled Up in Blue" is just amazing) round it out.

Dylan. Didn't mention Dylan. I'm an idjit. A good measure of respect in the industry is the number of songs and the number of times a song is covered. On that level, Townshend and Waters don't rack up the points, but then again The Who and Pink Floyd are pretty hard to cover, yes? I'm not familiar at all with Peart.

73 noshariaincanada  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:25:29pm

just downloaded Firefox 3.5 Beta 4 and it is BLAZING fast.

74 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:25:43pm

as for perfect records Dylans 'Blood on the Tracks' is one...his masterpiece, and to see how his influenced trickled down check out the lyrics (and music) on either 'Traveling Wilburys' records...

75 brookly red  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:26:27pm

The best lyricist? hmmmm, lemmie try Paul Simon.

76 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:26:29pm

re: #70 HoosierHoops

The Beatles? I heard they were pretty good writers..*wink*

Well, I was talking about North Americans in my #53. Once you get international, things get oogy.

77 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:27:22pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Peart is the songwriter for Rush. Here are the lyrics for Trees and you will understand why I like the sentiment:

There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunligh
And the oaks ignore their pleas

The trouble with the maples
(and theyre quite convinced theyre right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks cant help their feelings
If they like the way theyre made
And they wonder why the maples
Cant be happy in their shade?

There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream `oppression!`
And the oaks, just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
the oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light
Now theres no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw ...

78 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:27:50pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Dylan. Didn't mention Dylan. I'm an idjit. A good measure of respect in the industry is the number of songs and the number of times a song is covered. On that level, Townshend and Waters don't rack up the points, but then again The Who and Pink Floyd are pretty hard to cover, yes? I'm not familiar at all with Peart.

the Who and Pink Floyd are wannabees....they have a niche but a small one, in the end you cannot separate the lyrics from the music

79 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:29:15pm

re: #77 Cato

Best lyrics about Communism.

80 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:30:21pm

BTW, don't forget the great songwriter Barry Manilow, for his great hit "I Write the Songs that make the Whole World Barf".

81 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:30:56pm

re: #78 albusteve

The Who is a niche?

The lyrics of Pink Floyds songs are the most cynical anywhere.

"The song is just fantastic
That's really what I think,
Oh by the way, which one's Pink?"

And The Who's are almost always about confusion.

82 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:31:02pm

re: #80 Spare O'Lake

BTW, don't forget the great songwriter Barry Manilow, for his great hit "I Write the Songs that make the Whole World Barf".

Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys wrote that.

83 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:31:14pm

We should do a top ten poll of our Favorite Writers one of these nights..It would be fun..

84 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:32:17pm

re: #79 MandyManners


Yeah. Too bad Geddy doesn't believe them any more.

85 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:32:39pm

re: #81 Cato

The Who is a niche?

The lyrics of Pink Floyds songs are the most cynical anywhere.

"The song is just fantastic
That's really what I think,
Oh by the way, which one's Pink?"

And The Who's are almost always about confusion.

I TIVO'd a BBC special about the Who..It's all early stuff..Really amazing stuff

86 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:32:51pm

I would put Becker and Fagen (Steely dan) in the mix as lyricists. (Chris Difford from Squeeze was a fantastic lyricist too, though the music got in the way frequently)

87 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:32:52pm

Chris Matthews to Mike Pence: Do you or don’t you believe in evolution?

Five and a half minutes of dodging the question.

88 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:33:23pm

re: #82 Bloodnok

Bruce Johnston of the Beach Boys wrote that.

Very impressive.

89 Racer X  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:35:00pm

OK, if you've got a really good HiFi (heh), break out the vinyl Crime Of The Century by Supertramp. Awesome album.

Supertramp - Rudy (live)

90 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:35:26pm

re: #86 Bloodnok

Most of the lyrics I find incomprehensible. But some are fantastic. "Kid Charlemagne" may be the best drug song ever written.

91 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:35:55pm

re: #81 Cato

The Who is a niche?

The lyrics of Pink Floyds songs are the most cynical anywhere.

"The song is just fantastic
That's really what I think,
Oh by the way, which one's Pink?"

And The Who's are almost always about confusion.

neither are hardly in the elite...good but not great by any means

92 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:36:26pm

re: #84 Cato

Yeah. Too bad Geddy doesn't believe them any more.

He's gone moonbattish?

93 Danny  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:36:36pm

He's good...just not my cup of tea.

94 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:36:37pm

re: #88 Spare O'Lake

Very impressive.

he sells insurance now I believe

95 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:36:38pm

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Chris Matthews to Mike Pence: Do you or don’t you believe in evolution?

Five and a half minutes of dodging the question.

Allahpundit's going to catch a world of shit for posting that.

Again.

96 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:36:48pm

re: #90 Cato

Most of the lyrics I find incomprehensible. But some are fantastic. "Kid Charlemagne" may be the best drug song ever written.

God Damn the Pusher.Greatest drug song ever

97 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:37:31pm

So...how do y'all feel about Jim Balsillie (RIM) buying the Phoenix NHL team, conditional on being allowed to move the bankrupt Coyotes to the Toronto area?

98 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:37:48pm

I may have to post that video too. Unbelievable.

And people still deny that creationism is hurting the GOP.

99 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:37:55pm

re: #96 HoosierHoops

God Damn the Pusher.Greatest drug song ever

Sister Morphine
Jagger/Richars

100 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:37:55pm

I will also submit Ray Davies. His lyrics are just plain clever. He's in the top 5 for me.

101 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:37:55pm

re: #92 MandyManners


Yeah. He's a great guy, but he goes on about the Canadian medical system.

102 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:38:22pm
103 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:38:50pm

re: #101 Cato

Yeah. He's a great guy, but he goes on about the Canadian medical system.

He's rich. He can buy the best.

104 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:38:55pm

actually MariAnn Faithful wrote Sister Morphine...my bad

105 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:39:04pm

Complete with global warming diversion.

106 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:39:05pm

re: #95 Charles

Hot Air readers really seem to hate him.

107 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:39:41pm

re: #103 MandyManners


Its worse, he lives in the fame bubble and thinks everyone else gets the same treatment he does.

108 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:40:29pm

re: #90 Cato

Most of the lyrics I find incomprehensible. But some are fantastic. "Kid Charlemagne" may be the best drug song ever written.

I think I'm just too familiar with the songs, but to me Steely Dan lyrics are easy to figure out.

109 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:40:42pm

re: #96 HoosierHoops

God Damn the Pusher.Greatest drug song ever

I saw Steppenwolf do that live just a couple of years ago. Kay still has it.

110 jcm  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:41:17pm

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Chris Matthews to Mike Pence: Do you or don’t you believe in evolution?

Five and a half minutes of dodging the question.

Nit picky gripe.

Evolution isn't about "belief" it's about knowledge, knowledge of the evidence, facts and logical conclusions that support evolution.

Belief is doesn't require any of that.

111 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:41:26pm

'Comfortably Numb' by Pink Floyd is about a real life overdose

112 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:41:44pm

GM details plans to wipe out current shareholders

General Motors Corp on Tuesday detailed plans to all but wipe out the holdings of remaining shareholders by issuing up to 60 billion new shares in a bid to pay off debt to the U.S. government, bondholders and the United Auto Workers union.

. . ..

GM shares closed on Tuesday at $1.85 on the New York Stock Exchange. The stock would be worth just over 1 cent if the first phase of GM's restructuring moves forward as described.

Once GM has issued new shares to pay off its debt to the U.S. government, bondholders and its major union, it said it would then undertake a 1-for-100 reverse stock split.

Such a move would take the nominal value of the stock back to near where it had been before the flood of new shares. But in the process, GM's existing shareholders would see their stake in the 100-year-old automaker all but wiped out.

/welcome to TOTUSland

113 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:42:02pm

re: #105 Charles

Complete with global warming diversion.

Because they are the same thing, really. Science interfering with my belief system.

/////////////

114 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:42:48pm

re: #102 buzzsawmonkey

You know I smoked a lot of pork
Fried some bacon too
But I never shared none of it
With my neighbors who were Jews
You know I see a lot of people walking round
With ham sandwiches and such
That come from that little piglet
They raised in a backyard hutch
I said, "Got ham? Got ham, from piglets?"

---not Steppenwolf

You know i smoked a lot of Trolls
I dropped alot of mobys too
But I never smoked a troll
That I wouldn't share with all of you
You know I see alot of posts going down..
Bad mouthing Charles and all those crazy Jews
But I ain't seen nothing but class from all of us fools..
God Dang God Dang the pusher man

115 Summersong  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:42:56pm

Oh for crying out loud.

Just turned on Fox News and there is Pamela. Yeesh.

116 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:43:35pm

re: #109 Spare O'Lake

I saw Steppenwolf do that live just a couple of years ago. Kay still has it.

they were a hell of a band back in the day...saw them a coupla time, 'Pusher Man' was huge then

117 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:43:42pm

re: #110 jcm

It makes these huys such easy targets. Mathews made a complete ass out of him and made him look like a fool with one easy question. It should have been a yes or no answer. Not only did he look like a fool but he also came off as dishonest for trying to evade the questions for so long.

118 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:43:46pm

re: #111 albusteve


I thought it was about their band member's descent into madness. Wasn't that the beginning of it?

119 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:43:46pm
120 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:44:37pm
121 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:45:05pm

re: #107 Cato

Its worse, he lives in the fame bubble and thinks everyone else gets the same treatment he does.

That's one huge gilded cage.

122 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:45:21pm

Pusher Man


123 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:46:17pm

re: #111 albusteve


You are right, kind of:

According to Rolling Stone the lyrics came from Roger Waters' experience when he was injected with tranquillizers for stomach cramps by a doctor prior to playing a Pink Floyd show in Philadelphia on the band's 1977 tour for the Animals album.[3][4] "That was the longest two hours of my life," Waters said. "Trying to do a show when you can hardly lift your arm." The experience gave him the idea which became the lyrics to this song.

124 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:46:42pm

re: #115 Summersong

Oh for crying out loud.

Just turned on Fox News and there is Pamela. Yeesh.

Does Hannity know she's a freakin' Nazi-lover?

125 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:47:19pm

re: #115 Summersong

Imagine if Crazy Pam and Glenn Beck had children.

126 jcm  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:48:01pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

It makes these huys such easy targets. Mathews made a complete ass out of him and made him look like a fool with one easy question. It should have been a yes or no answer. Not only did he look like a fool but he also came off as dishonest for trying to evade the questions for so long.

Pence didn't perform well at all.

It should be very simple as you say.

But misuse of terms and words just irks me.

127 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:48:01pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

Imagine if Crazy Pam and Glenn Beck had children.

Eeeeeww.....

128 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:48:09pm
129 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:48:09pm

re: #118 Cato

I thought it was about their band member's descent into madness. Wasn't that the beginning of it?

'Pink' get it going for a gig so the doctor dopes him up...something like that

130 Summersong  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:48:11pm

re: #124 MandyManners

Does Hannity know she's a freakin' Nazi-lover?

I'd love him to ask her about it.

131 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:48:16pm

re: #124 MandyManners

Probably but don't expect him to ask her about it. They are all about the crazy on Fox these days.

132 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:48:23pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

Imagine if Crazy Pam and Glenn Beck had children.


Ron Paul.

133 jcm  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:49:45pm

re: #132 Jim in Virginia

Ron Paul.

And his evil twin sister Cynthia McKinney.

134 Summersong  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:50:05pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

Imagine if Crazy Pam and Glenn Beck had children.

Boobs, the lot of them. LOL

135 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:50:21pm

re: #129 albusteve

See 123

136 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:50:40pm

re: #123 Cato

yes that's it....

137 Archimedes  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:51:11pm

re: #70 HoosierHoops

The Beatles? I heard they were pretty good writers..*wink*


Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly

138 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:51:15pm

re: #134 Summersong

Boobs, the lot of them. LOL

We've gone from a music thread to a boob thread?

139 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:52:03pm

re: #137 Archimedes

Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly

heh...yes

140 SummerSong  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:52:04pm

re: #138 Jim in Virginia

We've gone from a music thread to a boob thread?

Sorry. I'm going to blame Buzzsaw ;)

141 BatGuano  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:52:13pm

re: #118 Cato

You might think of Shine on you crazy Diamond written about Syd Barret.

142 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:52:23pm

re: #137 Archimedes

Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly

As my guitar gentle weeps..

143 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:53:08pm

re: #142 HoosierHoops

As my guitar gentle weeps..

nice Clapton solo there...

144 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:53:11pm

Bang bang Maxwell's silver hammer....

145 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:53:24pm

re: #141 BatGuano

You might think of Shine on you crazy Diamond written about Syd Barret.

That whole "Wish You Were Here" album was about Syd.

146 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:53:28pm

re: #137 Archimedes

Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly

Lifted from a Chuck Berry song "You Can't Catch Me". Berry is still one of the top 2 or 3 lyricists of all time. He was the first rock and roll artist to write great lyrics.

147 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:54:02pm

re: #134 Summersong


I don't know. If you had the opportunity to make a fortune by saying your views were something like a conservatives views looked at through a funhouse mirror would you do it?

148 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:54:09pm

she came in through the bathroom window...
protected by her silver spoon

149 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:54:35pm

re: #17 Charles

I wonder if the German audience felt uncomfortable with this one.

When I first bought that album (on 8-track, way back in 1978), that song creeped me out. "I'm looking at the river, but I'm thinking of the sea"? Yikes. After that, I started buying all his other albums, starting with Good Old Boys (still my favorite).

150 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:55:31pm

re: #146 Bloodnok

Lifted from a Chuck Berry song "You Can't Catch Me". Berry is still one of the top 2 or 3 lyricists of all time. He was the first rock and roll artist to write great lyrics.

one of a few....
Buddy Holly
Bo Diddly

151 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:55:42pm

re: #146 Bloodnok

Lifted from a Chuck Berry song "You Can't Catch Me". Berry is still one of the top 2 or 3 lyricists of all time. He was the first rock and roll artist to write great lyrics.

Hmmph. Agreed. Someone mentioned Paul Simon earlier, which is correct. Add Stevie Wonder. Great songwriters/lyricists.

152 SummerSong  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:56:15pm

re: #147 Cato

I don't know. If you had the opportunity to make a fortune by saying your views were something like a conservatives views looked at through a funhouse mirror would you do it?

No, but I am mindful of the fact that I have the luxury of saying no to that.

153 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:56:32pm

re: #144 Jim in Virginia

Bang bang Maxwell's silver hammer....

They have this Beatles hour every sunday morning and play all the old interviews and songs..The other week Paul was Saying that Blackbird was a song a out a black girl..Birds in England are girls...
those guitar chords are so awesome..She must have been just smoking hot to inspire him to write that...All these years I thought he was penning a song about birds..Who knew?

154 lawhawk  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:56:56pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Peart is Neil Peart from Rush. He would write the lyrics, while Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson would write the music. Some of Rush's old stuff is pretty trippy and scifi/fantasy.

They do have a couple of pretty political songs, including Red Sector A, Nobody's Hero, and a few others.

155 windhorse  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:57:14pm

Music? Swine Flu? (my 91 year old father making it thru surgery today...)

156 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:57:22pm

re: #148 albusteve

she came in through the bathroom window...
protected by her silver spoon

Yesterday..All my troubles were so far away..

157 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:57:36pm

re: #151 austin_blue

Hmmph. Agreed. Someone mentioned Paul Simon earlier, which is correct. Add Stevie Wonder. Great songwriters/lyricists.

John Hiatt
Robert Hunter
Brian Wilson

158 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:57:51pm

re: #154 lawhawk


Neal was heavily influenced by Ayn Rand.

159 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:57:55pm
160 windhorse  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:58:13pm

re: #155 windhorse

hoopla hoopla, oink-oink

(the video dint work...... waaaahhhh)

161 BatGuano  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:58:25pm

I didn't know that.

162 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:58:40pm

re: #153 HoosierHoops

They have this Beatles hour every sunday morning and play all the old interviews and songs..The other week Paul was Saying that Blackbird was a song a out a black girl..Birds in England are girls...
those guitar chords are so awesome..She must have been just smoking hot to inspire him to write that...All these years I thought he was penning a song about birds..Who knew?

Brown Sugar....

163 Ziggy Standard  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:58:49pm

"Here she comes down the hall, faster than a cannonball"

'Champagne Supernova" by Oasis. I think it was the winner in a bad lyrics vote a few years back.

164 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:59:18pm
165 jcm  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:59:29pm

Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel

“Israel has to work toward a two-state solution,” declared Vice-President Joe Biden today in a speech to the annual conference of a powerful pro-Israel lobby group in Washington.

“You’re not going to like my saying this,” he warned the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac) before adding that the Jewish state should not build any more settlements on Palestinian territory, and should “dismantle existing outposts and allow Palestinians freedom of movement”

Bibi, you're on your own.

166 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 5, 2009 6:59:52pm

Chrysler won't repay bailout money

Chrysler LLC will not repay U.S. taxpayers more than $7 billion in bailout money it received earlier this year and as part of its bankruptcy filing.

This revelation was buried within Chrysler's bankruptcy filings last week and confirmed by the Obama administration Tuesday. The filings included a list of business assumptions from one of the company's key financial advisors in the bankruptcy case.

/you can expect a thank you note from the UAW any day now for your tax dollar direct transfer payment

167 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:00:14pm

re: #132 Jim in Virginia

Heh.

168 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:00:57pm

re: #157 albusteve

John Hiatt
Robert Hunter
Brian Wilson

Wilson belongs for the music, but he usually farmed out the lyrics. Mike Love wrote a lot of them. Roger Christian wrote most of the car song lyrics, Tony Asher wrote the lyrics for Pet sounds and Van Dyke Parks wrote 'em for Smile.

169 brookly red  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:01:10pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

not your best work...

170 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:01:11pm

re: #166 Killian Bundy

Chrysler won't repay bailout money

/you can expect a thank you note from the UAW any day now for your tax dollar direct transfer payment

suddenly I'm bankrupt....cool!

171 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:01:19pm

re: #163 Jimmah

"Here she comes down the hall, faster than a cannonball"

'Champagne Supernova" by Oasis. I think it was the winner in a bad lyrics vote a few years back.

I think Stairway to heaven won most pretentious song of the year along time ago in the Rolling Stone..

172 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:01:34pm

Oh, please.

Greatest lyricist of all time? Britney Spears.

"Oops, I did it again." Think about it, dude.

173 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:01:56pm
174 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:02:38pm

re: #168 Bloodnok

Wilson belongs for the music, but he usually farmed out the lyrics. Mike Love wrote a lot of them. Roger Christian wrote most of the car song lyrics, Tony Asher wrote the lyrics for Pet sounds and Van Dyke Parks wrote 'em for Smile.

didn't know that...he get's albusteve's boot to the dustbin then

175 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:02:41pm

re: #171 HoosierHoops

How about black-hole sun?

176 brookly red  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:03:05pm

re: #173 buzzsawmonkey

Only the second-rate talent is afraid to risk failure.

I will give you props for that. :)

177 Truck Monkey  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:03:23pm

re: #172 Occasional Reader

Oh, please.

Greatest lyricist of all time? Britney Spears.

"Oops, I did it again." Think about it, dude.

Um, Excuse me? Girls, They Wanna Have Fu un? Cindy Lauper? Hello?

/

178 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:03:26pm

Good evening, lizards. This was in my inbox this morning, lol:

MY LIVING WILL

Last night, my friend and I were sitting in the living room and I said to her, "I never want to live in a vegetative state, dependent on some machine and fluids from a bottle. If that ever happens, just pull the plug."

She got up, unplugged the Computer, and threw out my wine.

She's such a bitch....

179 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:03:42pm

re: #166 Killian Bundy

"The reality now is that the face value [of the $4 billion bridge loan] will be written off in the bankruptcy process," said the official, who added that the 8% equity stake that Treasury will be receiving as part of the company's reorganization is meant to compensate taxpayers for the lost money.

"While we do not expect a recovery of these funds, we are comfortable that in the totality of the arrangement, the Treasury and the American taxpayer are being fairly compensated," said the official.

Since I don't expect Chrysler to survive in the long run I hope the Treasury sells off that 8% before they implode again.

180 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:04:42pm

re: #171 HoosierHoops

I think Stairway to heaven won most pretentious song of the year along time ago in the Rolling Stone..

Rolling Stone cannot be trusted...it's a political rag...they are in bed with the R/R Hall of Fame...pitiful, shoulda stuck with the music

181 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:04:51pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

Imagine if Crazy Pam and Glenn Beck had children.

We don't want that kind of crazy to breed.

182 Truck Monkey  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:05:02pm

re: #173 buzzsawmonkey

Only the second-rate talent is afraid to risk failure.

What would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?

Still one of my favorite questions.

183 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:05:03pm

re: #153 HoosierHoops

They have this Beatles hour every sunday morning and play all the old interviews and songs.

Years and years ago a radio station in Houston switched to an all Beatles, all the time format. Even changed call letters to KBTL.
Interesting concept but it wore thin pretty quickly.
I thought an all Elvis format (KLVS) would also be a good niche.

184 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:05:32pm

re: #170 albusteve

suddenly I'm bankrupt....cool!

/the really funny part is that Chrysler is owned by a private mega-billion dollar hedge fund that sees no need to invest in it's own company because they can suck the taxpayer teat

185 [deleted]  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:05:34pm
186 livefreeor die  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:05:43pm

re: #166 Killian Bundy

Chrysler won't repay bailout money


/you can expect a thank you note from the UAW any day now for your tax dollar direct transfer payment

I am sick of Barry's "bait and switch" economics.

187 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:06:17pm

re: #175 Cato

How about black-hole sun?

I think the most pretentious song of all time is:
You're so Vain.

188 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:07:10pm

re: #183 Jim in Virginia

Years and years ago a radio station in Houston switched to an all Beatles, all the time format. Even changed call letters to KBTL.
Interesting concept but it wore thin pretty quickly.
I thought an all Elvis format (KLVS) would also be a good niche.

now if they'd tried a Stones format they would still be playing their stuff!....almost fifty years of music, and some of is pretty good actually!

189 Truck Monkey  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:07:21pm

re: #186 livefreeor die

I am sick of Barry's "bait and switch" economics.

FTFY

190 livefreeor die  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:07:33pm

re: #177 Truck Monkey

Um, Excuse me? Girls, They Wanna Have Fu un? Cindy Lauper? Hello?

/

How can you leave out Yoko Ono?!

191 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:07:52pm

re: #187 HoosierHoops

I think the most pretentious song of all time is:
You're so Vain.

I'm inclined to agree with you. Oooh, the mystery of who the song's about! She'll never tell!

WHO. CARES.

192 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:07:55pm

re: #172 Occasional Reader

Oh, please.

Greatest lyricist of all time? Britney Spears.

"Oops, I did it again." Think about it, dude.

Ya know, Richard Thompson did a cover of that tune a while back and I actually enjoyed it.

Here:

Start at about 4:56.

193 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:08:05pm

re: #190 livefreeor die

How can you leave out Yoko Ono?!

Yoko Oh No!

194 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:08:29pm

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Since I don't expect Chrysler to survive in the long run I hope the Treasury sells off that 8% before they implode again.

Not sure who they'll sell it to.

/Chrysler isn't even a public corporation

195 BatGuano  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:08:59pm

re: #190 livefreeor die

/Yoko is best known for being a gifted vocalist

196 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:09:02pm

re: #190 livefreeor die

How can you leave out Yoko Ono?!

Be careful who you invoke.

197 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:09:16pm

re: #175 Cato

How about black-hole sun?

Black Hole Sun?

/not what you think

198 brookly red  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:09:25pm

re: #190 livefreeor die

How can you leave out Yoko Ono?!

it was that or water boarding...

199 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:09:30pm

re: #177 Truck Monkey

Um, Excuse me? Girls, They Wanna Have Fu un? Cindy Lauper? Hello?

/

Cindy is a very respected Producer...And over all..pretty damn good writer and singer..She even produced some Phil Collins once..That woman has chops..

200 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:09:30pm

re: #187 HoosierHoops

I think the most pretentious song of all time is:
You're so Vain.

Mick Jagger is the thief

201 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:09:38pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

Imagine if Crazy Pam and Glenn Beck had children.

Imploding and exploding both at the same time. Why, that would be total protonic reversal.

202 livefreeor die  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:11:49pm

re: #200 albusteve

Mick Jagger is the thief

Didn't he sing background on that song?

203 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:12:25pm

re: #200 albusteve

Mick Jagger is the thief

I'm sure if I sat here long enough I could think of something I like about Jagger...There are probably only very few songs in this world that I hate..Can't stand..turn that crap off..He wrote one of them..

204 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:13:49pm

re: #191 Bloodnok

I wouldn't call that pretentious though.

205 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:14:34pm

re: #202 livefreeor die

Didn't he sing background on that song?

I think so...it's about him as well I believe

206 experiencedtraveller  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:14:43pm

Speaking of Germans and war, a big and important excavation of a WWI mass grave is just beginning in Northern France. The Battle of Fromelles was one of the stupider assaults in WWI (a war chock full of stupid assaults...) and was a real disaster for the Australian Imperial Force. The battlefield archaeologists expect to find the remains of several hundred Australian soldiers.

207 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:14:55pm

re: #199 HoosierHoops

Cindy is a very respected Producer...And over all..pretty damn good writer and singer..She even produced some Phil Collins once..That woman has chops..

She's also a brilliant stylist:

That's some great shit.

208 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:15:11pm

re: #204 Cato

I wouldn't call that pretentious though.

The song itself, maybe not. But the air of intrigue around the song that was created, definitely.

209 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:15:59pm

Gee, where might this lead to?

Charges Seen as Unlikely for Lawyers Over Interrogations

WASHINGTON — An internal Justice Department inquiry into the conduct of Bush administration lawyers who wrote secret memorandums authorizing brutal interrogations has concluded that the authors committed serious lapses of judgment but should not be criminally prosecuted, according to government officials briefed on a draft of the findings.

The report by the Office of Professional Responsibility, an internal ethics unit within the Justice Department, is also likely to ask that state bar associations consider possible disciplinary action, including reprimands or even disbarment, for some of the lawyers involved in writing the legal opinions (emphasis added), the officials said.

210 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:16:31pm

re: #203 HoosierHoops

I'm sure if I sat here long enough I could think of something I like about Jagger...There are probably only very few songs in this world that I hate..Can't stand..turn that crap off..He wrote one of them..

he's a prolific writer..he doesn't even like alot of the stuff he wrote...so be it...the record speaks for itself...and btw he is a very good harp player, something he never gets credit for

211 windhorse  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:17:36pm

Clapton.... smokes....

212 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:18:13pm

re: #203 HoosierHoops

I'm sure if I sat here long enough I could think of something I like about Jagger...There are probably only very few songs in this world that I hate..Can't stand..turn that crap off..He wrote one of them..

You mean you DON'T like the man's big pouty lips? Well, really! ;)

213 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:18:19pm

re: #211 windhorse

Clapton.... smokes....

well PUT HIM OUT!

214 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:18:26pm

You'll never know how much I really love you,
You'll never know how much I really care...

Listen,
Do you want to know a secret,
Do you promise not to tell,
Whoa, whoa, oh,

Closer,
Let me whisper in your ear,
Say the words you long to hear...
I'm in love with you, woo-oo-woo-oo-oo,

I've known a secret for the week or two,
Nobody knows, just we two-oo

215 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:18:55pm

re: #195 BatGuano

/Yoko is best known for being a gifted vocalist

Her voice can actually produce stress fractures in titanium. True fact.

216 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:19:11pm

re: #213 albusteve

well PUT HIM OUT!

I ain't done roasting the weinies and making s'mores!

217 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:19:14pm

re: #197 Ward Cleaver

ROFLMAO

Gotta see

Paul Anka does Smells Like Teen Spirit

218 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:19:53pm

re: #215 Occasional Reader

Her voice can actually produce stress fractures in titanium. True fact.

As proven by my #196. Get through 10 seconds of it if you have any guts. /

219 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:20:38pm

re: #215 Occasional Reader

Her voice can actually produce stress fractures in titanium. True fact.

I get stress fractures just thinking about her singing.

220 Cato the Elder  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:20:44pm

I have this song somewhere on an audiotape from several lifetimes ago.

The brief change from minor to to major on the words "lost her way" get me every time.

221 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:20:48pm

re: #214 Spare O'Lake

You'll never know how much I really love you,
You'll never know how much I really care...

Listen,
Do you want to know a secret,
Do you promise not to tell,
Whoa, whoa, oh,

Closer,
Let me whisper in your ear,
Say the words you long to hear...
I'm in love with you, woo-oo-woo-oo-oo,

I've known a secret for the week or two,
Nobody knows, just we two-oo

shades of greatness/things to come....these guys were VERY talented at their early age....but the had George Martin to make them great

222 formercorpsman  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:21:38pm

re: #111 albusteve

In Philadelphia.

223 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:21:41pm

re: #209 FurryOldGuyJeans

is also likely to ask that state bar associations consider possible disciplinary action, including reprimands or even disbarment, for some of the lawyers involved in writing the legal opinions

Based on WHAT? What professional ethics did they violate?

A political witch hunt by any other name...

This is shameful, seeing this banana republic nonsense in my own country.

224 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:21:54pm

re: #210 albusteve

he's a prolific writer..he doesn't even like alot of the stuff he wrote...so be it...the record speaks for itself...and btw he is a very good harp player, something he never gets credit for

yea..But If I had a time machine..I would be hooking up with his dad with a Super model in tow a year before ole Micky was around..
What could go wrong?
...Look on the bright side..He'd still have the lips and the thighs but the girls would be buying his off the rack fashions at Macy''s.
It's really a win-win
/

225 FrogMarch  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:22:07pm

Obama-gate

[Link: hotair.com...]

226 livefreeor die  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:22:10pm

re: #215 Occasional Reader

Her voice can actually produce stress fractures in titanium. True fact.

And melt steel.

227 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:23:00pm

re: #222 formercorpsman

In Philadelphia.

really...I don't know much Pink lore, I was into other stuff back then

228 BatGuano  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:23:05pm

re: #218 Bloodnok

As proven by my #196. Get through 10 seconds of it if you have any guts. /

I didn't even try.

229 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:23:37pm

re: #223 Occasional Reader

Based on WHAT? What professional ethics did they violate?

A political witch hunt by any other name...

This is shameful, seeing this banana republic nonsense in my own country.

The JD is refusing to bring charges, but wants to make sure they get punished anyway. Kangaroo court and political witch hunt that would make the Soviet Union proud.

230 livefreeor die  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:24:07pm

re: #225 FrogMarch

Obama-gate

[Link: hotair.com...]

Lenin would be proud.

231 formercorpsman  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:24:17pm

re: #222 formercorpsman

Sorry, I see someone responded. Late to the party as usual.

232 austin_blue  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:24:22pm

re: #207 austin_blue

She's also a brilliant stylist:


[Video]

That's some great shit.

And as long as we're here let's throw Joni Mitchell in the mix. Got to have one chick to be PC, but she absolutely deserves it. Listen to this:

233 DistantThunder  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:24:34pm

Eerily referencial to the Madelyn McCann scenario. Yeesh. Very haunting, and would make a great soundtrack.

Right now we're watching "suffer TV" dumb people trying to survive in the Alaskan wilderness.

234 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:25:17pm

re: #218 Bloodnok

As proven by my #196. Get through 10 seconds of it if you have any guts. /

I did. Now what am I supposed to do with all these horny cats at my door?

(Don't answer that.)

235 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:25:21pm

re: #224 HoosierHoops

yea..But If I had a time machine..I would be hooking up with his dad with a Super model in tow a year before ole Micky was around..
What could go wrong?
...Look on the bright side..He'd still have the lips and the thighs but the girls would be buying his off the rack fashions at Macy''s.
It's really a win-win
/

he has always been deep into all the pop arts...fashion, film, fine arts and writing....he's no rube, he's very very smart and a fitness freak as well...way ahead of his time

236 Archimedes  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:25:57pm

The Eagles, Hotel California. Great lyrics, great song.

Witchy Woman was great as well.

237 KingKenrod  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:26:40pm

I never cared much for Lauper until I heard "Boy Blue", a song she wrote about a friend who died from AIDS.

238 formercorpsman  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:26:50pm

re: #227 albusteve

Actually, the reason I know that is because Philadelphia is getting ready to tear down the Spectrum.

So my radio station each morning is telling tales, going over the history, etc.

The city is having a year long celebration before clearing it out.

Comfortably Numb was actually a topic last week.

239 FrogMarch  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:27:24pm

re: #230 livefreeor die

Lenin would be proud.

So would the mafia.

240 Cato  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:27:28pm

re: #236 Archimedes

I remember seeing the Eagles in concert right after the Hotel California album came out. It took me a considerable amount of time to realize the drummer was singing.

241 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:27:40pm

re: #236 Archimedes

The Eagles, Hotel California.

/Joe Walsh singlehandedly saved the Eagles from obscurity

242 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:27:42pm

re: #235 albusteve

he has always been deep into all the pop arts...fashion, film, fine arts and writing....he's no rube, he's very very smart and a fitness freak as well...way ahead of his time

Dang it Steve..Stop making Sense! *plugs ears*
jeez i can't stand him...
I will never forgive you if i ever start liking him...LOL

243 DistantThunder  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:27:51pm

I think we taxpayers are living in the hotel Obama - we can check in but never leave. He runs up the tab, and we can leave IF we pay the bill.

244 MandyManners  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:27:58pm

re: #209 FurryOldGuyJeans

Gee, where might this lead to?

Charges Seen as Unlikely for Lawyers Over Interrogations

Whoever wrote that is ignorant. Bar associations do not discipline attorneys. Only the state supreme courts can do that through the offices of attorney regulation.

245 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:30:15pm

re: #236 Archimedes

The Eagles, Hotel California. Great lyrics, great song.

Witchy Woman was great as well.

I always thought the chord changes in the intro sounded like Genesis' "Supper's Ready" part I, while the lyrics reminded me of Genesis' "The Carpet Crawlers" which both came out a few years prior. But then again I doubt the Eagles had ever heard of them at that point. I wonder, though.

246 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:30:17pm

Well she was just seventeen
You know what I mean
And the way she looked
Was way beyond compare
So how could I dance with another, wooooo
Since I saw her standing there...

Well my heart went boom
When I crossed that room
And I held her hand in miyeeeeeeeene

Oh we danced through the night
And we held eachother tight
And before too long I fell in love with her
I'll never dance with another wooooh
Since I saw her standing there

247 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:30:30pm

Some good lyrics, raht cheer.... simple, but effective:

Come down off your throne and leave your body alone.
Somebody must change.
You are the reason I've been waiting so long.
Somebody holds the key.

But I'm near the end and I just aint got the time
And I'm wasted and I can't find my way home.

Come down on your own and leave your body
alone.
Somebody must change.
You are the reason I've been waiting all these years.
Somebody holds the key.

Chorus

But I cant find my way home.
But I cant find my way home.
But I cant find my way home.
But I cant find my way home.
Still I cant find my way home,
And I aint done nothing wrong,
But I cant find my way home.

248 livefreeor die  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:30:33pm

re: #239 FrogMarch

So would the mafia.

"Saving Chrysler is a lot like a game of baseball..."

249 DistantThunder  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:31:54pm

re: #244 MandyManners

Whoever wrote that is ignorant. Bar associations do not discipline attorneys. Only the state supreme courts can do that through the offices of attorney regulation.

GEt Disbarred, become an international icon for (infidelity, and) various "causes." Commandeer billions. Hey Bill!

250 Truck Monkey  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:34:28pm

re: #243 DistantThunder

I think we taxpayers are living in the hotel Obama - we can check in but never leave. He runs up the tab, and we can leave IF we pay the bill.

Well. He DID pay for his own Burger today at lunch in some Northern Virginia joint. Even took Slow Joe Biden with him. Of course, you and I taxpayer will be picking up the $42,000 tab for his security detail.

251 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:35:15pm

When I think of all those nights
All those games you played
All those times I tried to leave
But All those times I stayed..
I can still hear your laughter
and it cuts me like a blade..
I'm caught on a thin line
Between what is and what is not
It's always caught on a thin line
between you need
and what you got..
I'm always caught
on a thin line

252 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:35:18pm

And some more superlative lyrics. (I'll link to her version, even though she didn't write it, because I think it's the best version.)


Across the evening sky, all the birds are leaving
But how can they know it's time for them to go?
Before the winter fire, I will still be dreaming
I have no thought of time
For who knows where the time goes?
Who knows where the time goes?
Sad, deserted shore, your fickle friends are leaving
Ah, but then you know it's time for them to go
But I will still be here, I have no thought of leaving
I do not count the time
For who knows where the time goes?
Who knows where the time goes?
And I am not alone while my love is near me
I know it will be so until it's time to go
So come the storms of winter and then the birds in spring again
I have no fear of time
For who knows how my love grows?
And who knows where the time goes?

253 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:35:39pm

Charles -

X-Ref - Jackson Browne - "Runnin' on Empty. "That'all was a SONG.

-S-

254 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:35:53pm
255 rain of lead  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:36:25pm

as long as we are talking great songwriters
I nominate jimmy buffett
here is his version of the asshole song (NOT the dennis leary version)
truely a work of art *sniffs* **wipes small tear from eyes**

256 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:39:13pm

re: #242 HoosierHoops

Dang it Steve..Stop making Sense! *plugs ears*
jeez i can't stand him...
I will never forgive you if i ever start liking him...LOL

re: #238 formercorpsman

Actually, the reason I know that is because Philadelphia is getting ready to tear down the Spectrum.

So my radio station each morning is telling tales, going over the history, etc.

The city is having a year long celebration before clearing it out.

Comfortably Numb was actually a topic last week.

I love visiting Philly...great town and I'm sure there are many stories about the old Spectrum...but...time to move on eh?

257 albusteve  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:39:57pm

re: #242 HoosierHoops

Dang it Steve..Stop making Sense! *plugs ears*
jeez i can't stand him...
I will never forgive you if i ever start liking him...LOL

you're getting sleeeepy....

258 Bloodnok  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:43:06pm

re: #257 albusteve

you're getting sleeeepy....

As soon as he falls asleep play him side 1 of Exile on Main Street. He will understand when he wakes up.

259 Archimedes  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:44:26pm

You guys have got me listening to music, now. I love these music threads.

260 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:45:29pm

re: #203 HoosierHoops

I'm sure if I sat here long enough I could think of something I like about Jagger...There are probably only very few songs in this world that I hate..Can't stand..turn that crap off..He wrote one of them..

The thing is: The most perfect opening guitar chord in all of rock music is that which opens "Street Fighting Man".

So, there it is.

(Of course, that was probably more Richards than Jagger.)

261 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:48:07pm

re: #257 albusteve

you're getting sleeeepy....

The Cav's blow out the Hawks.! Now everybody knows that Vegas owns the NBA..( I'm inventing a conspiracy here work with me)
Cause I'm thinking the Networks knew this game was tanked an hour ago..I expect better service..A nice banner or crawler on the screen saying..You are wasting youe time..This game was a blow out! Watch something else for the next hour..The Nuggets will be on later..we promise you a better game at 11pm..We promise..The Commish knows the Refs...He made them to promise to make Mark Cuban's head explode by halftime.. Don't believe me? Call your bookie in Vegas..They know everything..
/

262 Obsidiandog  Tue, May 5, 2009 7:57:50pm

I could never stand listening to Randy Newman, his vocals are so off-putting, but once you've heard the theme song to "Monk" about 10,000 times, it takes the edge off.

263 pbird  Tue, May 5, 2009 8:05:23pm

Worst song ever was "Cherish" sometime mid 60s. Yuck. Can't even remember who it was.

264 SummerSong  Tue, May 5, 2009 8:14:03pm

re: #263 pbird

The Association. I'll spare you the youtube.

265 Irenicum  Tue, May 5, 2009 8:14:22pm

Beautiful but tragic but true. Sad to say.

266 pbird  Tue, May 5, 2009 8:16:51pm

re: #264 SummerSong

The Association. I'll spare you the youtube.

Thanks. Thats it.

267 Archimedes  Tue, May 5, 2009 8:33:53pm

re: #266 pbird

Thanks. Thats it.

I just listened to it for the first time.

You're right. That is painfully bad.

268 irish rose  Tue, May 5, 2009 10:19:03pm

Good evening, lizards!

Speaking of raising the mundane to an art form... my fiance sent me this eye- popping video of Miss Felix Cane, turning in her winning performance at Miss Pole Dance World 2009.

Now that's what I call talent.

269 hazzyday  Tue, May 5, 2009 10:58:59pm

Musical novice here, that was interesting.

270 robin  Wed, May 6, 2009 1:13:12am

Great album Charles. I love it and purchased it off iTunes.

Thanks for the share :-)

271 abolitionist  Wed, May 6, 2009 5:32:54am

re: #18 Gus 802

Haunting. When he gets to the line about the reflection in the glasses is when I understood the meaning.

I looked it up and it is based on "M" apparently. Also see Peter Kürten.

From your 2nd link,

The variety of victims and methods created among police the assumption that there was more than one killer at large; over 900,000 different names were given to the police as potential suspects.

Sheesh.

272 Nantucket  Wed, May 6, 2009 7:28:31am

man, i missed something. i thought it stunk.

273 S'latch  Wed, May 6, 2009 7:41:18am

That was really beautiful.

274 S'latch  Wed, May 6, 2009 7:48:00am

Okay. Wait a minute. I just listened to it again. I realized he is singing about a murderer, apparently from the point of view of the murderer. Now it seems very creepy and somewhat less beautiful. Admittedly, it is an elegant song. But I don't feel very good about enjoying it.

275 Ojoe  Wed, May 6, 2009 8:38:23am

This song comes next. My sister Kahya. Chava Albertstein.

Charles this song deserves a thread of its own, I think.

276 Ojoe  Wed, May 6, 2009 8:39:23am

re: #274 Lawrence Schmerel

The shopkeeper and the girl died at the hands of the Nazis.

277 Picayune  Wed, May 6, 2009 8:44:17am

re: #272 Nantucket

man, i missed something. i thought it stunk.


Really, well, maybe this will set your toe to tappin! Old, Gold from those that could not see, Stevie/Ray. .

278 S'latch  Wed, May 6, 2009 8:47:46am

re: #276 Ojoe

Are you sure? I will listen again.

279 S'latch  Wed, May 6, 2009 9:00:02am

re: #276 Ojoe

Okay. I listened again. I do not understand why you say this song is about Nazis killing the "little golden girl" and the store owner.

First, Randy Newman says it is a song about a murderer. He does not say Nazis.

The store owner is watching this little girl. Then, the little girl has "lost her way." Then she is dead, apparently with the store owner next to her.

Finally, this little girl has golden hair and gray eyes which are traits the Nazis valued, making her an uncertain target.

I don't understand.

280 eaglewingz08  Wed, May 6, 2009 9:09:37am

Randy Newman, Germany Before the War, is that like "Jewish People Got No Reason To Live"?

281 Ojoe  Wed, May 6, 2009 10:13:12am

re: #279 Lawrence Schmerel

Because that's the sea, the 6 million are the sea

282 S'latch  Wed, May 6, 2009 10:44:40am

re: #281 Ojoe

How do you know that? Where did you get that the 6 million are the sea? Why would Randy Newman say this song is about a murderer (singular)?

Again, I don't get it. I am not saying you are wrong. I just want a source.

283 Ojoe  Wed, May 6, 2009 10:54:51am

re: #282 Lawrence Schmerel

This is art, and the source is how I feel when I hear the song, nothing more than that.

You may respond differently.

One could ask Mr. Newman, as he is still alive.

284 S'latch  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:47:41am

re: #283 Ojoe

In other words, you just made it up about the sea representing 6 million murdered Jews.

This is a song about some creepy store owner killing a little girl with golden hair and gray eyes.

Randy Newman has written other songs that tell a story from the point of view of a creepy person.

285 Mikky  Wed, May 6, 2009 5:37:24pm

Maybe it's because I have heard one too many haunting metal riffs, but for some reason I couldn't get into it. (Though it is a nice song)
*sigh* Guess I'm just bad in music. Also, I can't figure out - is this a song about a murderer? Thanks in advance

286 Hungover at the Hajj  Thu, May 7, 2009 6:59:34am

The subtle and understated piano is evocative of an old German music box, loved the major over minor switch he does at the end, as Charles says, he's playing games with this piece. Very high quality work. Three Stars from Hungover.


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