Too Good to Check: Jimmy Carter to Help Harvest Coca Leaves in Bolivia?

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Probably a hoax, but you just never know with Jimmy Carter: Jimmy Carter reported to accept coca invitation from Evo Morales.

Globovision of Caracas reports news that we hope is inaccurate, and which will be denied by former President Carter. The Venezuelan television network states that he has accepted an invitation to participate in the cultivation of coca with left wing Bolivian president Evo Morales, who grows it in Boliva.

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1 zombie  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:39:13am

Obama is going to legalize pot soon.

Is coke next on the list?

2 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:39:42am

It's a hoax I can believe in!

3 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:39:50am

Is anyone surprised by this tool anymore? I'm not.

4 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:40:06am

re: #1 zombie

Obama is going to legalize pot soon.

Is coke next on the list?


can they tax it?

5 vxbush  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:40:15am

re: #1 zombie

Obama is going to legalize pot soon.

Is coke next on the list?

Must be. I saw a big truck of it go by this morning.

/

6 pegcity  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:40:16am

Demented old Evil Fool Carter

7 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:40:47am

Jimmy Carter, native of Georgia, home to Coca-Cola, originally made with coca leaves - coincidence? Yeah, most likely.

8 Russkilitlover  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:40:49am

re: #1 zombie

Obama is going to legalize pot soon.

Is coke next on the list?

Arnie's trying to beat him to it.

9 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:41:15am

Isn't there a lot of trade between coca producers and islamists in Africa? Maybe he really is doing this.

10 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:41:17am

Maybe he's been chewing them for years. That would explain a lot.

11 subsailor68  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:41:22am

It appears Carter's newest project is called "Habitat for Insanity".

12 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:41:36am

Is there a cat down there he can shoot?

13 dhg4  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:41:39am

re: #4 brookly red

can they tax it?

You realize that's not a joke.

14 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:41:52am
15 baier  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:41:59am

re: #1 zombie

Obama is going to legalize pot soon.

Is coke next on the list?

Whoa...far out.

16 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:42:00am

re: #11 subsailor68

It appears Carter's newest project is called "Habitat for Insanity".

Bongs For Peace.

17 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:42:11am

/habits for humanity?

18 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:42:14am

re: #11 subsailor68

It appears Carter's newest project is called "Habitat for Insanity".

I thought he'd been working on that project for years...

19 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:42:27am

re: #11 subsailor68

It appears Carter's newest project is called "Habitat for Insanity".

One brazillion up-dings!

20 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:42:27am

re: #14 Iron Fist

He might fuck up and do something that inadvertantly helped America, but it definently would be by accident...

For which he would promptly, and profusely appologize

21 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:42:38am
22 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:42:42am

re: #12 MandyManners

Is there a cat down there he can shoot?

My 3 cats can read but ain't to good with sarcasm. They are giving you the evil eye.

23 Ben Hur  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:42:55am

Finally!

A subject The One has some expertise in.

I'll leave it in his capable hands.

24 baier  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:43:09am

re: #11 subsailor68

It appears Carter's newest project is called "Habitat for Insanity".

Hookahs for Humanity

25 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:43:12am

re: #21 Iron Fist

Homo habitus...

/Jimmy?

26 subsailor68  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:43:16am

re: #19 MandyManners

One brazillion up-dings!

Aw shucks. (blush)

:-)

27 pegcity  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:43:17am

Obama will probably ask him to bring some back for him, all they get is that cut crap in D.C

28 lawhawk  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:43:20am

The Boston Globe reports that Morales extended the invitation to Carter to come out and pick the coca leaves with Morales later this week.

No word on if Carter accepted.

Morales invited Carter to visit the coca-growing region of Chapare to pick the leaf -- which is the key ingredient in cocaine but also has many legal, traditional uses in Andean nations.

Noting that Morales has been to his own property to harvest peanuts, Carter said he hoped to make such a trip on his next visit to Bolivia.

Ah, so it will be okay since it has legal and traditional uses in Andean nations. Whatever.

Carter is still engaging in freelance foreign policy, and this time it looks like the Obama Administration doesn't seem to have a problem with it since they've been saying that they want to warm relations with folks like [T]hugo Chavez and his lackey, Evo Morales in Bolivia.

29 JammieWearingFool  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:43:40am

He'll be delivering the fruits of his labor to King Obama.

30 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:43:48am

If Carter gets involved in the Drug trade can we lift his passport?

31 Gella  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:43:48am

re: #13 dhg4

You realize that's not a joke.

it might just cover some of the country debt

32 Ben Hur  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:44:04am

OK OK.

Let's ease up on the weed bashing, OK?

Don't be a playa h8ter.

33 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:44:47am

What's next helping out in a "Metal Works" shop in Gaza assembling Kassams?

34 subsailor68  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:45:09am

Asked for his opinion on coca and pot, former president Carter said something real fast that nobody could understand, then ate an entire pizza.

35 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:45:14am

re: #33 Nevergiveup

What's next helping out in a "Metal Works" shop in Gaza assembling Kassams?

He's been there . . done that.

36 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:45:23am

re: #33 Nevergiveup

What's next helping out in a "Metal Works" shop in Gaza assembling Kassams?

/OK, who leaked?

37 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:45:57am

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

He'll be delivering the fruits of his labor to King Obama.

We'd be better off with King Julien. At least he's funny.

38 irongrampa  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:46:05am

Think I'll give this one the 48 hour wait.

39 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:46:33am

re: #13 dhg4

You realize that's not a joke.

hence no sarc tag.

40 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:46:53am

Jimmy Carter could be the face of coca like Juan Valdez is for columbian coffee.

41 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:46:55am

re: #30 Nevergiveup

If Carter gets involved in the Drug trade can we lift his passport?

Oh yeah, oh yeah, pleeeaase!

42 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:46:58am

re: #35 Creeping Eruption

He's been there . . done that.

He's pretty good at hammerwelding now, if anybody needs any auto body work done.

/

43 hous bin pharteen  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:47:04am

He was a peanut farmer. Why not coca beans?

44 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:47:36am

re: #32 Ben Hur

OK OK.

Let's ease up on the weed bashing, OK?

Don't be a playa h8ter.

Weed bashing is fine, its when people start in a on Cup contender that the problems begin.

45 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:47:40am

re: #40 Sharmuta

Jimmy Carter could be the face of coca like Juan Valdez is for columbian coffee.

And he wouldn't need a jackass, since he already is one.

46 alegrias  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:47:45am

Worst Ex-president in US History Jimmy Carter sure has a "jones" for narco-dictators.

For a tee-totaler, Carter's acted worse and more meanly against his country, than any alcoholic or recovering alcoholic.

47 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:48:02am

re: #4 brookly red

can they tax it?

Texas has tax stamps for pot.

Don't believe they have ever sold one, though.

48 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:48:19am
49 Baier  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:48:25am

Carter on coke would be like Don Knots with a southern drawl.

50 Natasha  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:48:38am

I really hope it is not a hoax, and will serve as even further proof that Mr. Carter is totally and completely insane.

51 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:48:49am

College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader

[Link: www.wsbtv.com...]

he is just thankful one student risked his life to keep others alive.

Guns are good

52 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:48:52am
53 alegrias  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:49:17am

re: #43 hous bin pharteen

He was a peanut farmer. Why not coca beans?

* * * *
One is a nutritious legume that feeds millions of people around the world, cheaply.

54 irongrampa  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:49:42am

re: #47 OldLineTexan

Tax stamps? My word. Do you have knowledge of who and how this came about?

55 Devil's Advocate  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:49:50am

So now Media Matters and the Daily Kos are objective news sources?!

Youtube Video
56 Twenglish  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:49:53am

Could it be that Cocaine has now become the choice recreational substance over at the DNC, one that causes most of their members to go even deeper toward substance abuses amounting to even harder addictive-s such as "speedbilling" ?

lol

57 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:50:01am
58 Desert Dog  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:50:02am

Are you high on crack, Jimmah!? (Not yet, but soon)

59 midwestgak  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:50:07am

Another election of a "president" to be overseen by Carter

The former president also confirmed that his nonprofit group the Carter Center will monitor Dec. 6 elections in which Morales is seeking re-election.

seesh

60 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:50:14am

If he really does this can we PLEASE remove his name from SSN-23. PLEASE!

61 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:50:33am

this explains much....

62 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:50:48am

re: #50 Natasha

I really hope it is not a hoax, and will serve as even further proof that Mr. Carter is totally and completely insane.

Imagine the spin. . .

"Ah know thet many would say that drugs are the ememy, but these leaves have done nothing wrong. . it is the evil Juice that make this into a bad thing- and Ah intend to do ma part. . . to end the suffereing of these leaves. . ."

63 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:51:08am
64 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:51:12am

re: #60 Nevergiveup

If he really does this can we PLEASE remove his name from SSN-23. PLEASE!

can that actually be done? has it ever been done?

65 subsailor68  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:51:19am

re: #51 Nevergiveup

College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader

[Link: www.wsbtv.com...]

he is just thankful one student risked his life to keep others alive.

Guns are good

Great link! Thanks. That kid probably did save every life in that building.

66 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:51:22am

re: #22 Nevergiveup

My 3 cats can read but ain't to good with sarcasm. They are giving you the evil eye.

Give 'em some cat-nip for me!

67 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:51:28am

Perhaps he is just looking to expand trade between the countries or perhaps expand his rotating crops on his farm. /C'mon guys, give the guy a break.

68 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:51:44am
69 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:51:54am

My old acoustic trio used to do a blues/ragtime song that went:

Champagne don't hurt me baby
Cocaine don't drive me crazy
Ain't nobody's business but mine..
Way down in Costa Rica
Smoke my hash and drink my liquor
Ain't nobody's business but mine

With lots of drug references. We always dedicated it to Marion Barry.

70 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:52:03am

re: #64 brookly red

can that actually be done? has it ever been done?

I doubt it, but there is always a first time.

71 MrPaulRevere  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:52:25am

I hate to be a grammar policeman, but shouldn't the headline read "Too good to NOT check?"....Just sayin...

72 opnion  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:52:38am

This does'nt sound right. Maybe he is going there to have a cup of cocoa with EVO. Seriously, this sounds wrong.

73 Idle Drifter  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:52:52am

I just hope our former President doesn't run into any killer rabbits while picking coca leaves.//

Youtube Video
74 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:52:52am

re: #51 Nevergiveup

College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader

[Link: www.wsbtv.com...]

he is just thankful one student risked his life to keep others alive.

Guns are good

WOW! Countdown until the pity for the poor criminal victim. . .4. . .3. . .

I am glad the carnage was minimal. . .

75 alegrias  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:53:03am

re: #52 Iron Fist

If I thought it'd help, I'd buy the fucker a drink.

* * * *
You're sweet to offer him a painkiller!

Carter never got over getting kicked to the side and challenged while President by the Kennedys in the 1980 democrat primaries.

Carter really never got over losing to that crazy old Hollywood ex democrat, ex union president, B-grade actor!

America liked Reagan, they really really liked Reagan!

76 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:53:03am

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

He'll be delivering the fruits of his labor to King Obama.

I gotta' get an invite to those Wednesday night soirees.

77 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:53:25am
78 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:53:50am

re: #1 zombie

Obama is going to legalize pot soon.

Is coke next on the list?

As long as it is not New Coke.

79 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:53:56am

re: #30 Nevergiveup

If Carter gets involved in the Drug trade can we lift his passport lock him up finally?

80 kansas  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:53:57am

Is it just me or does it seem that if this is true it is one of the lesser anti American things Carter would have done recently?

81 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:54:29am

re: #77 buzzsawmonkey

C'mon baby, help me quick
This old cocaine 'bout to make me sick
Cocaine, cocaine, run all round my brain...

--'30s blues


Reverend Gary Davis, covered by many others.

82 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:54:44am
83 Natasha  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:54:47am

re: #62 DisturbedEma

Imagine the spin. . .

"Ah know thet many would say that drugs are the ememy, but these leaves have done nothing wrong. . it is the evil Juice that make this into a bad thing- and Ah intend to do ma part. . . to end the suffereing of these leaves. . ."

LOL... Indeed, the spin alone would become pure comedy gold!

84 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:55:07am

re: #80 kansas

Is it just me or does it seem that if this is true it is one of the lesser anti American things Carter would have done recently?

Considering that American's are putting their lives on the line to eradicate these, and other crops, I'd say . . no.

85 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:55:58am

re: #33 Nevergiveup

What's next helping out in a "Metal Works" shop in Gaza assembling Kassams?

My response to this could get me banned.

86 livefreeor die  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:56:06am

Oh, please let him try to bring back some picking souvenirs through customs!

87 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:56:20am

re: #1 zombie

Obama is going to legalize pot soon.

Is coke next on the list?

Teh (sic) One has already declared we've lost the War on Terrorism, he's just preparing for our defeat in another war.

88 lawhawk  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:56:25am

re: #47 OldLineTexan

There are controlled substances taxes in a couple of states besides Texas, including Connecticut, Alabama, Georgia, and a few others.

89 Jimmah  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:56:33am

Carter seems to be following in the footsteps of that other great statesman, Nelson Mandela:

Youtube Video
90 Natasha  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:56:46am

re: #87 FurryOldGuyJeans

Teh (sic) One has already declared we've lost the War on Terrorism, he's just preparing for our defeat in another war.

"We fought the drugs and the drugs won!"

91 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:56:57am

Some may go for cocaine
I'm sure that if
I took even one sniff
It would bore me terrif-ically too...

92 alegrias  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:56:59am

re: #82 Iron Fist

We need another Reagan. Badly.

* * * *
We can always promote his & Jack Kemp and Art Laffer's great ideas that ushered in more freedom and opportunity for millions of Americans, then billions of people around the world.

Yes, a rising tide lifted all boats. Jimmy Carter the genius Navy Academy grad, never understood this boat metaphor for the global economy!

93 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:57:09am

re: #40 Sharmuta

Jimmy Carter could be the face of coca like Juan Valdez is for columbian coffee.

Would you snort blow that comes in a package with this photo on it?

94 hous bin pharteen  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:57:13am

Is it just me? Or do libs know under R.O.P., Islam executes gays. The new rule will be "don't ask, don't tell, or you are going to end up in the '"new Auschwich"

95 VioletTiger  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:57:17am

re: #12 MandyManners

Is there a cat down there he can shoot?


He shot a cat?

96 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:58:08am

re: #95 VioletTiger

He shot a cat?


his sister's cat. . .

97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:58:08am

re: #92 alegrias

* * * *
We can always promote his & Jack Kemp and Art Laffer's great ideas that ushered in more freedom and opportunity for millions of Americans, then billions of people around the world.

Yes, a rising tide lifted all boats. Jimmy Carter the genius Navy Academy grad, never understood this boat metaphor for the global economy!

That's because he was a sub commander - they think boats are supposed to sink!

98 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:58:11am

re: #93 MandyManners

Would you snort blow that comes in a package with this photo on it?

Might be the best thing for ending the cocaine trade in the US.

99 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:58:18am

Hey- Carter has undermined other aspects of US policy before, like North Korea, so what's the big deal if he undermines it some more by helping hard drug producers? It's his thang.

100 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:58:31am

re: #96 DisturbedEma

his sister's cat. . .

with bird shot...

101 J.D.  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:58:33am
Jimmy Carter, Loon, Bolivia, Cocaine, Hoax


Loon.
How apropos.

102 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:58:33am

re: #95 VioletTiger

He shot a cat?

He thought it was a rabbit.

103 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:58:54am

re: #93 MandyManners

Would you snort blow that comes in a package with this photo on it?

Looks like an old letch about to grope some poor girl.

104 Land Shark  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:58:57am

Even though I don't think Morales actually invited Carter to pick coca leaves, I'd love to see it be true and have him accept. Because nothing would put to rest any relevance that worthless piece of crap Carter has than pictures of him picking coca leaves. We can call his new venture "Crack Pipes For Humanity."

Of course it won't kill his relevance to Liberals, after all, they tend to be on the dumb as a bag of hammers side of things. Hell, they'll praise the loser for being so open to multiculturalism and trying new things. C'mon, Jimmy, you pick 'em!

105 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:59:06am

re: #102 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He thought it was a rabbit.

no the rabbit won...

106 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:59:07am
107 joncelli  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:59:16am

re: #1 zombie

It wouldn't be a bad idea. Legalize and tax them both, use the money to assist addicts and fight actual pushers rather than users.

108 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:59:21am

re: #93 MandyManners

Would you snort blow that comes in a package with this photo on it?

It is its own disincentive.

109 NelsFree  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:59:39am

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

If people are angry about the legalization of cocaine, they are suffering from coca choler.

I choked on your coke joke!

110 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:59:48am

re: #94 hous bin pharteen

Is it just me? Or do libs know under R.O.P., Islam executes gays. The new rule will be "don't ask, don't tell, or you are going to end up in the '"new Auschwich"

and do they know about honor killings, female circumscision and dhmmihood. . .or is that too hard to see in a world that is convinced that it is the Juice fault?

111 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:59:53am

re: #99 Sharmuta

Hey- Carter has undermined other aspects of US policy before, like North Korea, so what's the big deal if he undermines it some more by helping hard drug producers? It's his thang.

The man seems positively drawn to any group or nation that hates America.

112 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:00:03pm
113 subsailor68  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:00:06pm

re: #97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's because he was a sub commander - they think boats are supposed to sink!

You mean they're not?

114 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:00:10pm

Coca leaves? What's so bad about harvesting chocolate?

(Yes, I of all people know that chocolate comes from the beans of the cacao tree, it's just that I believe my fellow Americans are stupid enough that some of them won't know. They think of drugs as being more or less like food: It just shows up and you buy it.)

115 opnion  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:00:19pm

re: #93 MandyManners

Would you snort blow that comes in a package with this photo on it?

It looks like he never got over that killer rabbit. Poor fella.

116 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:00:37pm

re: #107 joncelli

It wouldn't be a bad idea. Legalize and tax them both, use the money to assist addicts and fight actual pushers rather than users.

if we legalize it then we ARE the pushers...

117 livefreeor die  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:00:46pm

re: #103 Creeping Eruption

Looks like an old letch about to grope some poor girl.

Only in his heart...

118 VioletTiger  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:00:52pm

re: #102 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He thought it was a rabbit.

What an asshat!

119 vxbush  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:00:53pm

re: #107 joncelli

It wouldn't be a bad idea. Legalize and tax them both, use the money to assist addicts and fight actual pushers rather than users.

.... and watch the money get diverted to gambling, roads, education, you name it. That model of taxation never works.

120 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:00:57pm

re: #115 opnion

It looks like he never got over that killer rabbit. Poor fella.


Your sympathy is for the rabbit, right?

121 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:01:06pm

re: #117 livefreeor die

Only in his heart...

Heart?

122 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:01:06pm

re: #95 VioletTiger

He shot a cat?

He shot and killed his sister-in-law's cat.

123 Idle Drifter  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:01:30pm

Here's some Eric Clapton.

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124 joncelli  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:01:34pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

We will snort no line before its time!

/Wait, wrong icon...

125 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:01:40pm

re: #111 FurryOldGuyJeans

The man seems positively drawn to any group or nation that hates America.

I think he's still pissy that America rejected him in 1980 and chose an actor. He's never gotten over it.

126 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:01:55pm

Think about it, despised Presidents and unpopular wars and Americans vote for America haters as POTUS for a follow-up. Coincidence? I think not.

/ is it sarcasm, or is it memorex?

127 CommonCents  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:02:10pm

re: #1 zombie

Obama is going to legalize pot soon.

Is coke next on the list?

I haven't checked their recent earnings, but imagine Coke will remain illegal as long as they make a profit. Then O will seize the bottling company, rename it Oke and claim victory for saving the soft drink industry (too).
/maybe s, not sure

128 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:02:13pm

re: #98 Honorary Yooper

Might be the best thing for ending the cocaine trade in the US.

Those eyes are about to pop out of their sockets.

129 NelsFree  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:02:15pm

re: #68 Iron Fist

The Navy named the Sub after him so it would not have to name an Aircraft Carrier after him. The next class of CVN will be the Gerald R. Fordclass.

130 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:02:23pm

re: #112 Iron Fist

this is your brain on drugs...

Brings a whole new meaning to "Just Say No".

131 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:02:34pm

re: #43 hous bin pharteen

He was a peanut farmer. Why not coca beansleaf?

Cocaine is made from processed leaves of the coca plant, not beans. Just bein' helpful.

(And yes, I've chewed coca leaves... never touched the "processed" derivative, though.)

132 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:02:38pm

re: #103 Creeping Eruption

Looks like an old letch about to grope some poor girl.

Oh, yuk.

133 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:02:38pm
134 opnion  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:02:41pm

re: #111 FurryOldGuyJeans

The man seems positively drawn to any group or nation that hates America.

Really, I think that it is bitterness for not getting a second term.

135 VioletTiger  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:02:42pm

re: #122 MandyManners

He shot and killed his sister-in-law's cat.

Idiot.
But I thught libs hated guns.

136 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:03:00pm

re: #125 Honorary Yooper

I think he's still pissy that America rejected Jews fucked him in 1980 and chose an actor. He's never gotten over it.


yep

137 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:03:06pm

re: #108 Sharmuta

It is its own disincentive.

Makes me wanna' grab a Valium just looking at it.

138 livefreeor die  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:03:09pm

re: #121 Creeping Eruption

Heart?

Whoops, good point!
So he lied when he said he committed lust in his heart! (Also when he promised to protect and defend the United States.)

139 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:03:21pm

Seriously, Kids- Just Say No.

140 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:03:29pm

re: #135 VioletTiger

Idiot.
But I thught libs hated guns.

only in the hands of law abiding citizens. . .

141 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:03:33pm

re: #115 opnion

It looks like he never got over that killer rabbit. Poor fella.

SPIRIT FINGERS!

142 subsailor68  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:03:34pm

re: #129 NelsFree

The Navy named the Sub after him so it would not have to name an Aircraft Carrier after him. The next class of CVN will be the Gerald R. Fordclass.

Now that's just cold!

;-)

143 lawhawk  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:03:34pm

OT, but worth mentioning.

There's been a sighting of a large glowing orb in the sky over the NYC metro area. It's its first appearance in quite some time, and people may be spooked by its presence.

Nothing to be alarmed about, and it should make regularly scheduled periodic appearances. Its absence should not be construed as the end of times or the Apocalypse. However, those with SAD may find themselves a wee bit more depressed than usual.

144 Twenglish  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:03:36pm

re: #53 alegrias

True a peanut is a dried fruit or a "legume" which is actually the French word for vegetable, and a peanut is definitely not a common vegetable at all , however I know of one old codger who used to grow them down in Georgia who is something like a vegetable......

Another good old Georgia joke was always aimed at how Carter used to irrigate his crops during times of extreme drought and water shortages , he'd just buy a thousand cases of Bud Beer and Call his brother Billy over for a visit

Of course , You wouldn't read about it

lol

;-)

145 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:03:37pm

re: #129 NelsFree

The Navy named the Sub after him so it would not have to name an Aircraft Carrier after him. The next class of CVN will be the Gerald R. Fordclass.

Fitting it was a vessel designed to sink.

146 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:04:15pm

She messed around with a bloke named smokie
She loved him though he was cokey
He took her down to chinatown
And showed her how to kick the gong around

-Cab Calloway

147 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:04:17pm

re: #133 Iron Fist

Hey, now, at least Obama never shot smack. Because that would be bad or something. Freebasing, OTOH, is about freedom...

Just ask Richard Pryor how freeing it is.

148 joncelli  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:04:26pm

re: #93 MandyManners

Whoa. Imagine the paranoia.

149 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:04:35pm

re: #135 VioletTiger

Idiot.
But I thught libs hated guns.

other people's guns... it's always about other people.

150 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:04:40pm

re: #143 lawhawk

OT, but worth mentioning.

There's been a sighting of a large glowing orb in the sky over the NYC metro area. It's its first appearance in quite some time, and people may be spooked by its presence.

Nothing to be alarmed about, and it should make regularly scheduled periodic appearances. Its absence should not be construed as the end of times or the Apocalypse. However, those with SAD may find themselves a wee bit more depressed than usual.


Relax- it is just Apollo, in his chariot. . .:)

151 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:04:56pm

re: #135 VioletTiger

Idiot.
But I thught libs hated guns.

Only in the hands of Conservatives.

152 CommonCents  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:05:20pm

re: #135 VioletTiger

Idiot.
But I thught libs hated guns.

He probably wasn't aiming at the cat.

153 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:05:26pm

Say no to liquor too!

YIKES!

154 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:05:47pm

re: #148 joncelli

Whoa. Imagine the paranoia.

No thank you.

155 zombie  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:05:48pm

re: #8 Russkilitlover

Arnie's trying to beat him to it.

I know. All over the news this morning. Arnold Spliffenegger is running legalization up the flagpole, in preparation of dropping the laws entirely probably next year.

What with Prop 215 and Obama's refusal to enforce drug laws in states with medical pot regulations, and what with the total ease of anybody getting legal pot at the dispensaries already (any number of dudgy doctors will write you a 'scrip for pain or depression, plus scrips are for sale on the street for a few bucks), pot is essentially already legal in CA. This will just make it official.

156 opnion  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:05:58pm

re: #120 EmmmieG

Your sympathy is for the rabbit, right?

The rabbit was a trooper. If Jimmah didn't have that paddle ,the bunny would have had him for sure.

157 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:06:03pm
158 Cygnus  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:06:15pm

re: #141 MandyManners

SPIRIT FINGERS!

Or Jazz Hands.

159 Jimmah  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:06:17pm

Gotta go eat. BBL.

160 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:06:19pm

re: #60 Nevergiveup

If he really does this can we PLEASE remove his name from SSN-23. PLEASE!

It's a 'special operations' boat. What better way to keep the sailors from talking about their classified exploits than to make them embarrassed to mention what boat they were on.
/

161 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:06:30pm

re: #152 CommonCents

He probably wasn't aiming at the cat.

Yes, he was. He left her a note. There's a link to it out on the Internet somewhere.

162 NelsFree  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:06:33pm

re: #125 Honorary Yooper

I think he's still pissy that America rejected him in 1980 and chose an actor. He's never gotten over it.

It was the poster on the back of a Reagan campaigner in the '80 GOP convention:
"Why not an actor? We've had a clown in the White House for the last four years!"

163 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:06:46pm

re: #139 Sharmuta

Seriously, Kids- Just Say No.

They did on November 4, 1980.

164 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:06:50pm
165 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:06:51pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

Say no to liquor too!

YIKES!

Will O be next? He's already got the religious candle and icon market nearly sewn up.

166 zombie  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:06:56pm

re: #107 joncelli

It wouldn't be a bad idea. Legalize and tax them both, use the money to assist addicts and fight actual pushers rather than users.

Here we go again!

This time I will be wise and bite my tongue.

167 VioletTiger  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:03pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

Say no to liquor too!

YIKES!

lol! Yikes is right.

168 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:04pm

Just as a reminder: If the US were not the number-one consumer of cocaine in the world (and I'm not talking crack, I'm talking powder consumed like sugar by lawyers and professors and over-the-road truckers and college kids and your neighbor and my dentist and that Republican social-conservative guy with the six-figure income in the Armani suit sitting next to you at Ruth's Chris who has a special connection with absolutely zero risk and thinks you're a bounder in your off-the-rack jacket), there would be no narco trade.

Drug war = hypocrisy = epic fail. That is all.

169 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:15pm

re: #156 opnion

The rabbit was a trooper. If Jimmah didn't have that paddle ,the bunny would have had him for sure.

Rumors are the Rabbits' Paint gun jammed..Else Jimmy would be in big trouble

170 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:16pm

And since some have brought up early 20th century cocaine references; In Sinclair Lewis' Babbitt, published in 1922, there's a fleeting description of a cocaine dealer being shot to death in a seedy part of town. I remember being surprised when I read this in high school... it seemed so "modern".

171 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:21pm

re: #161 MandyManners

Yes, he was. He left her a note. There's a link to it out on the Internet somewhere.

"Dear sis: I blew away your cat. Sorry. P.S. you are out of beer and chips."

-J

172 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:21pm

re: #146 Mad Al-Jaffee

She messed around with a bloke named smokie
She loved him though he was cokey
He took her down to chinatown
And showed her how to kick the gong around

-Cab Calloway

Hi-de-hi-de-hi-de-ho.

173 dhg4  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:29pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

Jimmy Carter could be the face of coca like Juan Valdez is for columbian coffee.

With the caption:

This is your brain on drugs.

I'm sure it would discourage many first time users. He could do more good like that than he did as president.

174 CommonCents  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:34pm

re: #161 MandyManners

Yes, he was. He left her a note. There's a link to it out on the Internet somewhere.

Sorry, should have included the damn /s

175 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:36pm

re: #54 irongrampa

Tax stamps? My word. Do you have knowledge of who and how this came about?

Here's a (sparse) State site.

I found a linky to a Dallas Morning Snooze article from '08 that claimed this was repealed after a judge found it to be a positive defense against possession; but the link was not what Google said it was.

The purpose of these stamps was most likely to give the State gov't. an extra charge to hang on dealers and runners.

176 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:40pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

Say no to liquor too!

YIKES!

What a fitting range of "politicians" he finds himself into.
Retch

177 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:07:40pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

Say no to liquor too!

YIKES!

Pretty sure that wine has turned to vinegar.

178 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:08:23pm

re: #157 Iron Fist

As I understand it, you aren't really supposed to set yourself on fire...

Shit happens.

179 NelsFree  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:08:27pm

re: #142 subsailor68

Now that's just cold!

;-)

Guess I'm below your thermacline, shipmate!

180 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:08:43pm
181 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:08:46pm

re: #158 Cygnus

Or Jazz Hands.

You got the reference!

One purple jelly bean for you!

182 mich-again  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:08:56pm

If the reports are true and Carter is collaborating with drug lords he should be put on the no-fly list.

183 joncelli  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:09:03pm

re: #166 zombie

Oh boy. Did we have a, uh, discussion about this before?

184 hous bin pharteen  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:09:20pm

re: #65 subsailor68

A "double tap" would have worked well, but who am I to pick on them.

185 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:09:34pm

re: #93 MandyManners

Would you snort blow that comes in a package with this photo on it?

AAAAGGH! BAD TRIP! BAD TRIP! MASSIVE, PAINFUL FLASHBACK TO THE 70S!"

186 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:09:46pm

re: #168 Cato the Elder

Just as a reminder: If the US were not the number-one consumer of cocaine in the world (and I'm not talking crack, I'm talking powder consumed like sugar by lawyers and professors and over-the-road truckers and college kids and your neighbor and my dentist and that Republican social-conservative guy with the six-figure income in the Armani suit sitting next to you at Ruth's Chris who has a special connection with absolutely zero risk and thinks you're a bounder in your off-the-rack jacket), there would be no narco trade.

Drug war = hypocrisy = epic fail. That is all.

Would you PLEASE quit reading my mind! ;)

187 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:09:49pm

re: #54 irongrampa

Tax stamps? My word. Do you have knowledge of who and how this came about?

Hey, here's a picture (maybe).

188 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:10:05pm

re: #182 mich-again

If the reports are true and Carter is collaborating with drug lords he should be put on the no-fly list.

/inbound only...

189 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:10:22pm

re: #168 Cato the Elder

Just as a reminder: If the US were not the number-one consumer of cocaine in the world (and I'm not talking crack, I'm talking powder consumed like sugar by lawyers and professors and over-the-road truckers and college kids and your neighbor and my dentist and that Republican social-conservative guy with the six-figure income in the Armani suit sitting next to you at Ruth's Chris who has a special connection with absolutely zero risk and thinks you're a bounder in your off-the-rack jacket), there would be no narco trade.

Drug war = hypocrisy = epic fail. That is all.

AMEN!

190 zombie  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:10:39pm

re: #168 Cato the Elder

Just as a reminder: If the US were not the number-one consumer of cocaine in the world (and I'm not talking crack, I'm talking powder consumed like sugar by lawyers and professors and over-the-road truckers and college kids and your neighbor and my dentist and that Republican social-conservative guy with the six-figure income in the Armani suit sitting next to you at Ruth's Chris who has a special connection with absolutely zero risk and thinks you're a bounder in your off-the-rack jacket), there would be no narco trade.

Drug war = hypocrisy = epic fail. That is all.

That argument is fundamentally illogical. And that is my last comment on this topic!

Next thread, please!

191 lawhawk  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:10:42pm

re: #184 hous bin pharteen

This is the only double tap I'd be interested in, preferably with Guinness in one and Bass from the other.

192 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:10:43pm

re: #168 Cato the Elder

If the US were not the number-one consumer of cocaine in the world ... there would be no narco trade

Right, because the US is the only country in the world where narcotics are consumed.

/what?

193 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:11:09pm

re: #96 DisturbedEma

his sister's cat. . .

I thought it was a neighbor's cat?

194 Cygnus  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:11:22pm

re: #181 MandyManners

You got the reference!

One purple jelly bean for you!

As long as it's not a Bertie Botts jelly bean that tastes like vomit or something.

195 opnion  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:11:33pm

re: #169 HoosierHoops

Rumors are the Rabbits' Paint gun jammed..Else Jimmy would be in big trouble

Yeah, the rabbit caught a bad break.

196 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:11:49pm

re: #160 CyanSnowHawk

It's a 'special operations' boat. What better way to keep the sailors from talking about their classified exploits than to make them embarrassed to mention what boat they were on.
/

OK you got a point but still think of the poor sailors

197 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:11:57pm

re: #195 opnion

Yeah, the rabbit caught a bad break.

Literally

198 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:11:57pm

re: #169 HoosierHoops

Rumors are the Rabbits' Paint gun jammed..Else Jimmy would be in big trouble

Got it, email incoming, your way. Thanks.

199 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:12:19pm

re: #171 Creeping Eruption

"Dear sis: I blew away your cat. Sorry. P.S. you are out of beer and chips."

-J

It's about that cold-blooded.

200 wrenchwench  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:12:26pm

re: #168 Cato the Elder

Just as a reminder: If the US were not the number-one consumer of cocaine in the world (and I'm not talking crack, I'm talking powder consumed like sugar by lawyers and professors and over-the-road truckers and college kids and your neighbor and my dentist and that Republican social-conservative guy with the six-figure income in the Armani suit sitting next to you at Ruth's Chris who has a special connection with absolutely zero risk and thinks you're a bounder in your off-the-rack jacket), there would be no a lot less narco trade.

Drug war = hypocrisy = epic fail. That is all.


FTFY.

201 MandyManners  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:12:35pm

My computer's fucking up. bbiab

202 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:12:36pm

I know I've asked this before, but if you get a prescription for marijuana, how do you get it filled? Does the drug store give you joints in a little orange bottle, or are you expected to roll your own? Is a bong part of the prescription too?

203 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:12:37pm

re: #97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's because he was a sub commander - they think boats are supposed to sink!

I believe he was a submarine qualified officer. Never a Sub Commander.

204 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:12:40pm

re: #191 lawhawk

This is the only double tap I'd be interested in, preferably with Guinness in one and Bass from the other.

So you'd serve the home invader a Black & Tan?

205 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:12:46pm

re: #192 Occasional Reader

Right, because the US is the only country in the world where narcotics are consumed.

/what?

We certainly wouldn't be being defeated so badly in our War on Drugs, so really I wouldn't be all that distressed about what the rest of the world does.

206 mich-again  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:13:02pm

re: #188 brookly red

/inbound only...

True. In fact he should be given a free one-way ticket out.

207 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:13:09pm

re: #202 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I know I've asked this before, but if you get a prescription for marijuana, how do you get it filled? Does the drug store give you joints in a little orange bottle, or are you expected to roll your own? Is a bong part of the prescription too?

They have dispensaries.

208 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:13:46pm

re: #201 MandyManners

My computer's fucking up. bbiab

Expecting a litter of PDAs soon? ;)

209 zombie  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:13:49pm

re: #183 joncelli

Oh boy. Did we have a, uh, discussion about this before?

Not you and I individually, just me vs. the Lizard Community (who generally took your position).

210 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:13:56pm

re: #192 Occasional Reader

Right, because the US is the only country in the world where narcotics are consumed.

/what?

See Wrenchwench's fix. I agree with her.

211 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:14:31pm

re: #198 Walter L. Newton

Got it, email incoming, your way. Thanks.

No..Thank you Walter..I got your email..What you did was priceless for DustyVet..
Thanks again...

212 Idle Drifter  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:15:12pm

re: #191 lawhawk

This is the only double tap I'd be interested in, preferably with Guinness in one and Bass from the other.

So do you enjoy Black N Tans?

213 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:15:16pm

re: #202 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I know I've asked this before, but if you get a prescription for marijuana, how do you get it filled? Does the drug store give you joints in a little orange bottle, or are you expected to roll your own? Is a bong part of the prescription too?

Same place you get other legally prescribed pharmaceuticals, a licensed dispensary.

214 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:15:22pm

re: #209 zombie

Not you and I individually, just me vs. the Lizard Community (who generally took your position).

Well, to be honest, if we legalize and tax, we could also regulate it with the FDA. Of course, just as with alcohol, there will always be those who try to outsmart the revenuers.

215 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:15:22pm

re: #205 FurryOldGuyJeans

We certainly wouldn't be being defeated so badly in our War on Drugs, so really I wouldn't be all that distressed about what the rest of the world does.

For starters, I think "The" War on Drugs is too overly-broad a term to be very helpful.

Now: How many believe that cocaine should be legal?

216 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:15:35pm

re: #168 Cato the Elder

Just as a reminder: If the US were not the number-one consumer of cocaine in the world (and I'm not talking crack, I'm talking powder consumed like sugar by lawyers and professors and over-the-road truckers and college kids and your neighbor and my dentist and that Republican social-conservative guy with the six-figure income in the Armani suit sitting next to you at Ruth's Chris who has a special connection with absolutely zero risk and thinks you're a bounder in your off-the-rack jacket), there would be no narco trade.

Drug war = hypocrisy = epic fail. That is all.

Can only agree. As long as there's demand, supply will be there.

217 Spare O'Lake  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:15:54pm

re: #172 Kosh's Shadow

Hi-de-hi-de-hi-de-ho.

218 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:16:06pm

re: #213 FurryOldGuyJeans

Same place you get other legally prescribed pharmaceuticals, a licensed dispensary.

Well you get legally prescribed drugs on the corner down the block also. Not yours now, but somebodies?

219 joncelli  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:16:12pm

re: #209 zombie

Yes, I meant the collective we. I don't usually disagree with your opinions.

220 ssn697  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:16:20pm

It is really sad that a story like this comes up, about a former President of the United States, and you can't tell if it is a hoax or not. My first instinct was that it is real.

That says a lot (IMO) about what Carter has done to the office.

221 Ben Hur  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:16:21pm

"Little Green Footballs" are buds.

I can't believe it took me so long to figure that out.

222 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:16:26pm

re: #204 Occasional Reader

So you'd serve the home invader a Black & Tan?

Ammo is so effing hard to find I have quit promising a second shot.

;)

223 wrenchwench  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:16:39pm
" Once even it invited to me to visit his family and its house, made me harvest peanut, in its earth in Atlanta, now I invite to him to Chapare to harvest cocaine… will be next vez" , it affirmed president Boliviano, without needing when he was in American earth, which took the laughter of Carter.

I love Babel Fish.

224 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:17:42pm
225 joncelli  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:17:45pm

re: #215 Occasional Reader

Sure. Coke, grass, designer drugs...practically anything except heroin and PCP, really.

226 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:18:03pm

re: #202 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I know I've asked this before, but if you get a prescription for marijuana, how do you get it filled? Does the drug store give you joints in a little orange bottle, or are you expected to roll your own? Is a bong part of the prescription too?

Don't know in the US, but in some EU countries you'll get a prescription for a concentrated juice of marijuana. That guarantees that there is always the same amount of THC in the drug the patient is taking. It is then measured and swallowed in drops as it is so concentrated.

227 ssn697  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:18:13pm

re: #203 CyanSnowHawk

I believe he was a submarine qualified officer. Never a Sub Commander.

He is a non-qual dink puke in my book.

228 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:18:36pm

re: #215 Occasional Reader

For starters, I think "The" War on Drugs is too overly-broad a term to be very helpful.

Now: How many believe that cocaine should be legal?

I think decriminalizing marijuana would allow the money currently spent on dealing with pot to be diverted to dealing with harder, more problematic drugs.

Although at times, I like playing devil's advocate on the issue by pointing out the only way to stop the cartels is to take their power away.

229 NelsFree  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:18:37pm

Okay, suppose BHO signs into law the legalization of Mary-hoo-ha.
Ques: What happens to all the drug gangs?
Ans: They immediately become legal, aside from the murders, which will decrease, a bit, over the next several years. The pipelines are already in place, everybody does it, and who cares, man, pass the bong, dude...
/

230 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:18:45pm

re: #224 Iron Fist

God help them if the boat sinks. They get to Hell and report in "I went down on the Jimmy Carter!"

. . . and the Devil took pity on their souls

231 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:18:48pm

re: #192 Occasional Reader

Oh, and re our little discussion last night: American empire.

232 joncelli  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:19:12pm

re: #227 ssn697

But he got interrogated by Rickover before he resigned his commission. I find particular pleasure in that.

233 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:19:13pm

OT, but good news for those of us who want to get far away from this planet:
Star Trek's Warp Drive: Not Impossible

234 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:19:30pm
235 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:19:43pm

Got leave? JetBlue offers troops $1 fares

[Link: www.navytimes.com...]

The owners of Jet Blue are commie liberal bastards, but ya got to give credit where credit is due.

236 Gang of One  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:19:52pm

re: #168 Cato the Elder

Just as a reminder: If the US were not the number-one consumer of cocaine in the world (and I'm not talking crack, I'm talking powder consumed like sugar by lawyers and professors and over-the-road truckers and college kids and your neighbor and my dentist and that Republican social-conservative guy with the six-figure income in the Armani suit sitting next to you at Ruth's Chris who has a special connection with absolutely zero risk and thinks you're a bounder in your off-the-rack jacket), there would be no narco trade.

Drug war = hypocrisy = epic fail. That is all.

If drugs were to be decriminalized and regulated, how long would it take for the narcostates like Mexico to recover some form of security? I am all for terminating this failed war.

237 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:20:05pm

re: #226 callahan23

Don't know in the US, but in some EU countries you'll get a prescription for a concentrated juice of marijuana. That guarantees that there is always the same amount of THC in the drug the patient is taking. It is then measured and swallowed in drops as it is so concentrated.

No wonder the high school kids are bolting from College and playing in Europe..well that and 5 million a year...

238 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:20:07pm

re: #218 Nevergiveup

Well you get legally prescribed drugs on the corner down the block also. Not yours now, but somebodies?

I believe the point under discussion was where would one legally obtained legally available product. Even booze and cigs get sold illegally, and legalized narcotics would have the same issue, pricing and affordability.

239 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:20:09pm

re: #225 joncelli

Sure. Coke, grass, designer drugs...practically anything except heroin and PCP, really.

And by the logic of legalizing cocaine, why not legalize heroin and PCP?

Personally, I can see legalizing pot (or at least decriminalizing); but draw the line there.

240 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:20:12pm

re: #222 OldLineTexan
OLT,
Is it that hard to find in Texas?
Get some friends together and order bulk on line .....split the
Hazmat shipping .....Then go shooting!
Or....Did I miss something up thread and should sit down and STFU?

241 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:20:33pm

re: #224 Iron Fist

God help them if the boat sinks. They get to Hell and report in "I went down on the Jimmy Carter!" All the other damned will never let them get over it...

Maybe we should name a boat the Lewinsky.

242 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:20:47pm

re: #228 Sharmuta

I think decriminalizing marijuana

Of course, I asked about cocaine .

243 ssn697  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:20:58pm

re: #226 callahan23

Don't know in the US, but in some EU countries you'll get a prescription for a concentrated juice of marijuana. That guarantees that there is always the same amount of THC in the drug the patient is taking. It is then measured and swallowed in drops as it is so concentrated.

[Link: www.usdoj.gov...]

Marinol is the *real* way to go. I am mid cancer therapy, and have found it to be very helpful.

244 mich-again  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:21:10pm

California: Where cigarette smoke and automobile exhaust fumes are lethal toxins, but marijuana is aromatherapy.

245 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:21:24pm

re: #234 Iron Fist

What good has its being illegal accomplished? I've never done coke myself, but that's not been from lack of oppertunity.

I've never done coke, and never will after seeing what it did to a family member.

But if there is a war quagmire, surely it's the war on drugs. Well- the war on poverty, too.

246 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:21:33pm

Oh, dear - Specter's getting all pissy about his fellow Democrats stabbing him in the back.

And the question on his constituent's minds is: should be vote for someone who believed what Harry Reid told him?

I almost hope he switches back the Republican side of the aisle, so the GOP can also decline to grant him his old seniority.

Of course, it would be most fun to see him lose to a Republican just because he was a whiny bitch.

So much fun. I need popcorn...

247 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:21:37pm

re: #238 FurryOldGuyJeans

I believe the point under discussion was where would one legally obtained legally available product. Even booze and cigs get sold illegally, and legalized narcotics would have the same issue, pricing and affordability.

I thought I was making a joke, but a guess it was a real small one?

248 hous bin pharteen  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:21:45pm

re: #110 DisturbedEma

Why worry about that when they can complain about "water boarding". I was "water boarded" in the second grade when I was going to the Y learning to swim. It was the first time I learned to breath under-water, which did not work well. But now, can I sue Sister Mary Elephant?

249 ssn697  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:21:54pm

re: #232 joncelli

But he got interrogated by Rickover before he resigned his commission. I find particular pleasure in that.

Thanks for reminding me of that! You pushed some sunshine into my day ;-)

250 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:21:57pm

re: #241 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe we should name a boat the Lewinsky.

Well maybe a dingy

251 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:21:57pm

re: #242 Occasional Reader

OK- well, don't bother reading the rest of that comment then.

252 quickjustice  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:21:58pm

Farmer Jimmy, just lookin' for the next cash crop to bring home with him to Plains . . .

253 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:22:13pm
254 NelsFree  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:22:29pm

re: #215 Occasional Reader

Once MJ is legal, folks will start in on the next least problematic drug.

Tobacco, alchohol, marijuana, cocaine, ecstacy...heroin. Why stop?
/

255 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:22:38pm

re: #241 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe we should name a boat the Lewinsky.

DIVE! DIVE!

256 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:22:55pm

re: #224 Iron Fist

God help them if the boat sinks. They get to Hell and report in "I went down on the Jimmy Carter!" All the other damned will never let them get over it...

Even worse could happen after the commission the USS William Jefferson Clinton. *SHUDDER*

I am so glad I am not active duty that I would ever remotely be subjected to such an indignity.

257 lawhawk  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:23:08pm

For those following the Scare Force One mess courtesy of the WH, Malkin reports that the White House will now release those photos after all.

258 NelsFree  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:23:32pm

re: #232 joncelli

But he got interrogated by Rickover before he resigned his commission. I find particular pleasure in that.

As President, Jimmy Carter forced ADM Rickover to retire. Payback.

259 Kenneth  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:23:36pm

Taliban and Pakistani military battle in Swat

The Pakistani military and the Taliban are battling in the Taliban-controlled districts of Swat and Buner. The Pakistani military claimed 37 Taliban fighters and four security personnel were killed in Swat and 27 more Taliban fighters were killed neighboring Buner.

Major fighting in Afghanistan's east and west

Afghan soldiers and Coalition troops have launched offensives against Taliban forces in Farah and Kunar provinces and killed more than 50 Taliban. The remains of a US soldier who was listed as missing in Kunar after a Taliban assault on an outpost on May 1 have been found.

Afghan soldiers backed by Coalition strike aircraft launched an operation in Bala Boluk, targeting the more than 100 Taliban fighters manning fighting positions in the district. The operation sparked major fighting. Twenty-five Taliban fighters and four Afghan soldiers have been reported killed in the battle, which has been reported to still be underway. Eight soldiers and 11 civilians have also been wounded in the clashes.

/Bad ol' US, air raiding villages again.

260 wrenchwench  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:23:45pm

re: #243 ssn697

[Link: www.usdoj.gov...]

Marinol is the *real* way to go. I am mid cancer therapy, and have found it to be very helpful.

{ssn697} Best wishes for a complete recovery.

261 debutaunt  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:23:46pm

re: #91 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Some may go for cocaine
I'm sure that if
I took even one sniff
It would bore me terrif-ically too...

Nice phrasing!

262 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:23:51pm

re: #231 Cato the Elder

Oh, and re our little discussion last night: American empire.

Golly, we have military bases overeseas, I had no idea!

And those are used to... ruthlessly extract tribute from the subject populations, right? In, you know, Japan, and Germany, and other such conquered, poor, submissive colonies.

What's that? WE actually pay for these bases, which are there with the express permission of the sovereign national authorities, who very much want them there because they have dangerous neighbors?

Hmm... funny kind of "Empire", that.

263 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:23:54pm

re: #242 Occasional Reader

Of course, I asked about cocaine .

How many millions of lives have been destroyed by Coke and Crack?
How many family members still feel the pain today from the destruction?

264 AZDave  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:23:56pm

Jimmy Carter: "Five coca leaves for the drug cartel, two leaves for me."

265 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:24:00pm

re: #257 lawhawk

For those following the Scare Force One mess courtesy of the WH, Malkin reports that the White House will now release those photos after all.

I wonder if it's true they were just giving the puppy a ride?
/

266 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:24:08pm
267 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:24:08pm

re: #247 Nevergiveup

I thought I was making a joke, but a guess it was a real small one?

Not necessarily the case, I can be dense at times. ;)

268 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:24:21pm

re: #253 Iron Fist

Not to mention patchouli...

I never understood the use of patchouli instead of taking a shower (and I've know MANY people that do it)... the combination smell of it and B.O. is one of the most offensive smells in the history of mankind.

269 WindHorse  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:24:21pm

Arlen, babe.... you lost that magic when you let your perm grow out....

wa-haa....

270 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:24:34pm
271 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:24:34pm

re: #258 NelsFree

As President, Jimmy Carter forced ADM Rickover to retire. Payback.

Maybe, but who will go down in History as a American Hero?

272 ssn697  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:24:43pm

re: #246 SixDegrees

I am now really, REALLY hoping he decides he wants to go back to the Republican party. I would need TWO bags of popcorn for that show!

"But, but, but they PROMISED!"

273 Russkilitlover  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:24:50pm

re: #214 Honorary Yooper

Well, to be honest, if we legalize and tax, we could also regulate it with the FDA. Of course, just as with alcohol, there will always be those who try to outsmart the revenuers.

Pot is already a "black market" drug. It's also already extremely plentiful in California (and, I'm sure, elsewhere). What makes the leagalizers think that this will rein in the sales and receive tax monies on them. Why not just continue to buy them on the black market, pay no tax, and not be liable for a misdemeanor or criminal charge?

274 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:24:52pm

re: #239 Occasional Reader

Agreed!
I've never heard of a violent crime being blamed on someone cause they were STONED!
Coke? Yes,PCP..Absolutly!
Meth ...without a dought
But never STNED!

275 quickjustice  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:25:03pm

re: #246 SixDegrees

You'd have thought a savvy old cuss like Specter would have negotiated with Democrats for some seniority, like Lieberman when he was elected as an Independent. Specter was so enraged by the polling for the GOP primary that he jumped ship never calculating where he'd land.

Silly old fool.

276 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:25:11pm

re: #225 joncelli

Sure. Coke, grass, designer drugs...practically anything except heroin and PCP, really.

Why pick on heroin and PCP? Are roofies OK?

277 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:25:21pm

re: #263 HoosierHoops

How many millions of lives have been destroyed by Coke and Crack?
How many family members still feel the pain today from the destruction?

Um... I don't know? And why are you asking me?

278 kansas  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:25:35pm

Jimmy Carter, Danny O,
BHO, Fidel Castro

We didn’t start the fire….take it away Buzzsawmonkey

279 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:25:43pm

re: #237 HoosierHoops

re: #226 callahan23
Don't know in the US, but in some EU countries you'll get a prescription for a concentrated juice of marijuana. That guarantees that there is always the same amount of THC in the drug the patient is taking. It is then measured and swallowed in drops as it is so concentrated.


No wonder the high school kids are bolting from College and playing in Europe..well that and 5 million a year...

That concentrated THC drug is only given to patients with chronic pain and cancer patients to alleviate the side effects of the chemo-therapy.
But you are right with those college kids who go to Holland where dope is perfectly legal.

280 NelsFree  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:25:47pm

BBL

281 lawhawk  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:25:49pm

re: #204 Occasional Reader

So you'd serve the home invader a Black & Tan?

If they get past one of these on the way in, no problem. They'd deserve it. And I'd be screwed in any event.

282 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:25:49pm

re: #224 Iron Fist

God help them if the boat sinks. They get to Hell and report in "I went down on the Jimmy Carter!" All the other damned will never let them get over it...

In an episode of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles this season, the Jimmy Carter sinks (in the future.)

283 subsailor68  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:02pm

re: #260 wrenchwench

{ssn697} Best wishes for a complete recovery.

I will certainly second that!

284 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:12pm

re: #270 Iron Fist

One funny thing is that if powder coke had been legal all of these years, it is unlikely crack would have been developed. Crack is just a way of trying to make the coke go further. And crack is some evil shit.

Crack always makes me think of Dennis Leary. "Do you want some crack? I was born with one, pal!" and "Only in America would cocaine not be good enough."

285 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:20pm

re: #250 Nevergiveup

Well maybe a dingy

Reminds me of a singer whose songs my father used to play for me
Ruth Wallis
A couple of her songs:
The Cutest Little Dinghy in the Navy
He Got His First Lei in Hawaii

you get the idea.

286 ssn697  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:21pm

re: #256 FurryOldGuyJeans

Even worse could happen after the commission the USS William Jefferson Clinton. *SHUDDER*

I am so glad I am not active duty that I would ever remotely be subjected to such an indignity.

Don't even want to think about what comes out the torpedo tubes on that boat...

287 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:25pm

re: #273 Russkilitlover

Pot is already a "black market" drug. It's also already extremely plentiful in California (and, I'm sure, elsewhere). What makes the leagalizers think that this will rein in the sales and receive tax monies on them. Why not just continue to buy them on the black market, pay no tax, and not be liable for a misdemeanor or criminal charge?

I now a number of people who would pay the tax to legally be able to smoke well produced pot.

288 Gang of One  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:28pm

re: #263 HoosierHoops

How many millions of lives have been destroyed by Coke and Crack?
How many family members still feel the pain today from the destruction?


True enough, but how many have been destroyed by nicotine and alcohol?

289 Kenneth  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:29pm

re: #203 CyanSnowHawk

I believe he was a submarine qualified officer. Never a Sub Commander.

Carter made Lieutenant before he left the Navy. He was training for nuclear sub duty, but never finished the course.

290 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:37pm

re: #272 ssn697

I am now really, REALLY hoping he decides he wants to go back to the Republican party. I would need TWO bags of popcorn for that show!

"But, but, but they PROMISED!"

Heh.

I wonder how many times he can be bounced across the aisle? In the spirit of renewed bipartisanship, perhaps we ought to find out, and encourage the Dems to do likewise.

291 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:38pm

re: #277 Occasional Reader

Um... I don't know? And why are you asking me?

I thought I was agreeing with you..Sorry..I'm a little under the weather

292 zombie  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:48pm

re: #221 Ben Hur

"Little Green Footballs" are buds.

I can't believe it took me so long to figure that out.

I already proved back in 2004 that Little Green Footballs are actualy the original 10mg Prozac pills, the first common dosage. "Little Green Footballs" was in fact the actual slang term for them (seriously).

Charles denies that is the origin of the term, of course! In an interview he said it had something to do with "compressed rubber", leading me to think it was these erasers.

Needless to say, we will never know for sure.

293 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:26:48pm

re: #213 FurryOldGuyJeans

Same place you get other legally prescribed pharmaceuticals, a licensed dispensary.

Yeah, but how is it dispensed? Does the pharmacist give you x amount of pot & tell you to have fun, or do they also have to include rolling papers or a pipe?

294 brookly red  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:27:18pm

re: #274 reloadingisnotahobby

Agreed!
I've never heard of a violent crime being blamed on someone cause they were STONED!
Coke? Yes,PCP..Absolutly!
Meth ...without a dought
But never STNED!

well if you don't count running some kid over as violent...

295 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:27:23pm

re: #289 Kenneth

Carter made Lieutenant before he left the Navy. He was training for nuclear sub duty, but never finished the course.

He only made LT. Ha ha. I out rank him.

296 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:27:31pm

re: #291 HoosierHoops

I thought I was agreeing with you..Sorry..I'm a little under the weather

Ah. Sorry.

Feeling any better? Nausea subsided, at least?

297 quickjustice  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:27:35pm

Did Carter ever chew tobacco? Good practice for chewing coca leaves.

298 mich-again  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:27:36pm

re: #253 Iron Fist

Not to mention patchouli...

The perfume oil that smells so good you can use it to keep bugs away.

299 jvic  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:27:48pm

Too good to check, indeed.

Might the Carter Center be attracting some major new donors?

Although board meetings would have to be held...at an undisclosed offshore location. And the security arrangements would be more elaborate than in the past.

300 joncelli  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:27:52pm

re: #276 OldLineTexan

Okay, the idea was that heroin is nearly impossible to kick and PCP causes violent behaviour. But I'm open to legalizing everything too.

301 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:28:06pm

re: #237 HoosierHoops

Also see:

re: #243 ssn697


Cheers buddy.

302 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:28:07pm

re: #276 OldLineTexan

Why pick on heroin and PCP? Are roofies OK?

No, they're typical Union thugs. Wait, those are Roofers.
/

303 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:28:14pm

re: #273 Russkilitlover

Pot is already a "black market" drug. It's also already extremely plentiful in California (and, I'm sure, elsewhere). What makes the leagalizers think that this will rein in the sales and receive tax monies on them. Why not just continue to buy them on the black market, pay no tax, and not be liable for a misdemeanor or criminal charge?

For the same reason that moonshine doesn't sell as well as legal booze.
You are sure of the quality, and there are better distribution channels.

304 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:28:14pm

re: #275 quickjustice

You'd have thought a savvy old cuss like Specter would have negotiated with Democrats for some seniority, like Lieberman when he was elected as an Independent. Specter was so enraged by the polling for the GOP primary that he jumped ship never calculating where he'd land.

Silly old fool.

Well, Harry Reid gave him his word that he would retain his seniority. And if you can't trust Harry Reid, who can you trust?

305 Walter L. Newton  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:28:20pm

re: #293 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yeah, but how is it dispensed? Does the pharmacist give you x amount of pot & tell you to have fun, or do they also have to include rolling papers or a pipe?

I thought you put it up your nose?
/

306 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:28:40pm

re: #293 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yeah, but how is it dispensed? Does the pharmacist give you x amount of pot & tell you to have fun, or do they also have to include rolling papers or a pipe?

The prescription comes with a physician reefer-al, obviously.

307 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:28:40pm

re: #287 Creeping Eruption

I now a number of people who would pay the tax to legally be able to smoke well produced pot.

In addition, there'd be competition. Legally grown stuff could be produced cheaply due to the fact that the operation would not have to be clandestine. That's even with taxes.

308 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:28:40pm

Madoff's secretary in on Fox. She is kinda cute but doesn't really know anything. Sound's like a real Brooklyn girl

309 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:28:45pm
310 kansas  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:29:05pm

re: #257 lawhawk

For those following the Scare Force One mess courtesy of the WH, Malkin reports that the White House will now release those photos after all.

Kind of following a pattern here. Poke the conservatives with a stick, then throw them some meat to keep em quiet. Then poke them again.

311 Land Shark  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:29:18pm

As background to this whole legalize drugs or keep them illegal thing, I received an eye opening bit of information during a business trip to Cali, Colombia back in 1995. I was told that cocaine cost essentially one dollar an ounce to manufacture in Colombia back then. One Colombian remarked that drug laws succeeded where Medieval Alchemists had failed, they turned something that can be cheaply made into gold. Think about how much that ounce of cocaine can cost here in the US and is it any wonder it can't be stopped?

I'm on the fence when it comes to legalizing hard drugs like cocaine. On one side I see the utter futility of the current situation given the astronomical profits to be had, yet a shudder to think how many more people could get addicted it it's legal.

312 Guanxi88  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:29:20pm

Now, I've had coca leaf tea in the past, and found it a very pleasant, very nice little alternative to coffee. You don't get a "buzz" or anything like that from it - just a nice lift. Pretty harmless in that form, and a valuable remedy for altitude sickness, the common cold (sounds weird but true!) and a host of other respiratory conditions.

313 Sharmuta  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:29:35pm

re: #287 Creeping Eruption

I now a number of people who would pay the tax to legally be able to smoke well produced pot.

Indeed.

314 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:29:50pm

re: #288 Gang of One

True enough, but how many have been destroyed by nicotine and alcohol?

Fair point. Even prescription drug abuse can destroy lives.

315 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:29:50pm

re: #240 reloadingisnotahobby

OLT,
Is it that hard to find in Texas?
Get some friends together and order bulk on line .....split the
Hazmat shipping .....Then go shooting!
Or....Did I miss something up thread and should sit down and STFU?

It's the (probably justifiable) panic buying, and the resultant price increases. I am not only a bitter clinger, I am a cheap sumbitch.

/

316 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:30:32pm

re: #277 Occasional Reader

Um... I don't know? And why are you asking me?

DAMMIT OR, WHEN WILL YOU THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!?

317 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:30:34pm

More questionable blogging from Ed Morrisey.....

Chrysler lenders revealed

The administration buried the fact that they don’t expect repayment on any of the TARP funds granted to Chrysler, and won’t even keep a position in the company for any extended period of time. The American taxpayer literally will get nothing for the billions of dollars showered on Chrysler, from which the UAW and FIAT will benefit the most.

However, if you read the article he links to.....

"The reality now is that the face value [of the $4 billion bridge loan] will be written off in the bankruptcy process," said the official, who added that the 8% equity stake that Treasury will be receiving as part of the company's reorganization is meant to compensate taxpayers for the lost money.

"While we do not expect a recovery of these funds, we are comfortable that in the totality of the arrangement, the Treasury and the American taxpayer are being fairly compensated," said the official.

It might be a good deal, it might be a bad deal. But the statement that "The American taxpayer literally will get nothing..." is directly refuted by the article he links to.

318 subsailor68  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:30:48pm

re: #290 SixDegrees

Heh.

I wonder how many times he can be bounced across the aisle? In the spirit of renewed bipartisanship, perhaps we ought to find out, and encourage the Dems to do likewise.

"Anyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat. " Winston Churchill

Source: WINSTON CHURCHILL, remark in 1923 after rejoining the Conservatives, having left them earlier to join the Liberals.Kay Halle, Irrepressible Churchill.

Hey Arlen. You ain't no Churchill. Ha!

319 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:30:52pm

re: #312 Guanxi88

Now, I've had coca leaf tea in the past, and found it a very pleasant, very nice little alternative to coffee. You don't get a "buzz" or anything like that from it - just a nice lift. Pretty harmless in that form, and a valuable remedy for altitude sickness, the common cold (sounds weird but true!) and a host of other respiratory conditions.

I've had coca leaf tea as well. Not crazy about the taste, but not bad.

320 Desert Dog  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:30:53pm

re: #155 zombie

I know. All over the news this morning. Arnold Spliffenegger is running legalization up the flagpole, in preparation of dropping the laws entirely probably next year.

What with Prop 215 and Obama's refusal to enforce drug laws in states with medical pot regulations, and what with the total ease of anybody getting legal pot at the dispensaries already (any number of dudgy doctors will write you a 'scrip for pain or depression, plus scrips are for sale on the street for a few bucks), pot is essentially already legal in CA. This will just make it official.

Don't bring it over to AZ, a seed will get you first class accommodations at Tent City with Sheriff Joe

321 hous bin pharteen  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:31:15pm

re: #131 Occasional Reader

How about chocolate? I am a Hershey fan. At least Hershey did not sponsor that idiot Busch. M&M did. Arrgghhhhh................. (race fan since diapers) Coca beans? Or don't I have a clue?

322 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:31:29pm

re: #305 Walter L. Newton

I thought you put it up your nose?
/

Well, yeah, 'cause brownies make ya FAT.

/

323 kansas  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:31:34pm

re: #289 Kenneth

Carter made Lieutenant before he left the Navy. He was training for nuclear sub duty, but never finished the course.

He pronounced nuclear nukuler. Only the left didn't go ape shit crazy over it.

324 ssn697  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:31:40pm

re: #283 subsailor68

I will certainly second that!

Thanks. Turns out falling asleep at Bellows while drunk, and getting that horrible sunburn was worse for me than I thought! I shouldn't have done it twice, lol.

Being stationed in Pearl, and being whiter than white may not be the best combo after all.

I am doing pretty good though. Thanks.

325 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:31:40pm

re: #262 Occasional Reader

Hmm... funny kind of "Empire", that.

The best empire is the one in which the imperial subjects (or at least the proxies who rule them) are grateful, prosperous and contented. Just ask Octavian.

That does not mean it's not an empire.

326 zombie  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:31:44pm

re: #293 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yeah, but how is it dispensed? Does the pharmacist give you x amount of pot & tell you to have fun, or do they also have to include rolling papers or a pipe?

They'll sell you the rolling papers and the pipe, if you need them. Nothing is free.

California pot dispensaries are basically legal head-shops with all the accoutrements needed, including the once-forbidden marijuana itself. All you need is a prescription, but half the people who walk into these things (actually, way more than half, but I'm being generous) are using either forged prescriptions, or prescriptions obtained under false pretenses, or prescriptions bought on the street corner. And the dispensary workers know this full well, and always look the other way, because 98% of them are legalization advocates in the first place.

327 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:31:45pm

re: #273 Russkilitlover

Pot is already a "black market" drug. It's also already extremely plentiful in California (and, I'm sure, elsewhere). What makes the leagalizers think that this will rein in the sales and receive tax monies on them. Why not just continue to buy them on the black market, pay no tax, and not be liable for a misdemeanor or criminal charge?

Almost all of the real cost presently is due to the hurdles required to smuggle the stuff into and around the country. Start selling guaranteed high-quality weed for a few bucks an ounce, and there's little profit incentive for the black market to stay in the game.

328 Russkilitlover  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:31:57pm

re: #246 SixDegrees

Heh. Spectors response from your link:

I am confident my seniority will be maintained under the arrangement I worked out with Senator Reid.

Yeah, putz, that's how you gon boonswoggled into switching parties to begin with. A traitor is as despised by the new side as the old side. Heh.

329 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:32:10pm

re: #315 OldLineTexan

It's the (probably justifiable) panic buying, and the resultant price increases. I am not only a bitter clinger, I am a cheap sumbitch.

/

Plan your trip to the DC area. I won't say ammo's cheap here, but it appears to be plentiful. I topped up my .45acp stash just this weekend, no problem 't'all.

330 Guanxi88  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:32:11pm

re: #319 Occasional Reader

I've had coca leaf tea as well. Not crazy about the taste, but not bad.

Drinking it, I can see how it could be a valuable addition to a beverage. Vin mariani, for example, can be quite nice (had a shot of it once).

331 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:32:12pm

re: #312 Guanxi88

Now, I've had coca leaf tea in the past, and found it a very pleasant, very nice little alternative to coffee. You don't get a "buzz" or anything like that from it - just a nice lift. Pretty harmless in that form, and a valuable remedy for altitude sickness, the common cold (sounds weird but true!) and a host of other respiratory conditions.

Even the old Pope John Paul II consumed that tea to alleviate his altitude sickness on his first trip to the high Andes plains.

332 Kenneth  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:32:12pm

re: #221 Ben Hur

Ben knows how to have a good time!

333 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:32:13pm

re: #295 Nevergiveup

He only made LT. Ha ha. I out rank him.

Right up until he made Commander in Chief.

334 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:32:33pm

re: #296 Occasional Reader

Ah. Sorry.

Feeling any better? Nausea subsided, at least?

Thanks Bro..
I'm at that point in the day where the last thing I want to think about is any food...my gut is really sore..
Funny thing..In the back of my mind I'm thinking when this shit is over I will eat the biggest piece of fish in the world with Dill Sauce..
Just typing that hurt..But as God is my witness...
Hope today finds you well OR

335 debutaunt  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:32:50pm

re: #215 Occasional Reader

For starters, I think "The" War on Drugs is too overly-broad a term to be very helpful.

Now: How many believe that cocaine should be legal?

I'd settle for Capitalism being legal.

336 joncelli  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:33:16pm

re: #329 Occasional Reader

Surely not in DC and MD? NoVA?

337 Gang of One  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:33:18pm

re: #314 Honorary Yooper

Fair point. Even prescription drug abuse can destroy lives.

I agree, Yooper. It is a question of education and willpower. These substances were once legal, plentiful and the addicts had a no problems maintaining their addiction. Don't know the stats on crimes commited by morphine/opium users or weed smokers, and IIRC heroin itself is relatively a recent derivative of opium. My concern is the money the illegal trade garners and the destabilization that power causes.

338 Nevergiveup  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:33:27pm

re: #333 CyanSnowHawk

Right up until he made Commander in Chief.

I wasn't in the Navy then and he is no longer CiC.

339 Guanxi88  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:33:29pm

re: #331 callahan23

Even the old Pope John Paul II consumed that tea to alleviate his altitude sickness on his first trip to the high Andes plains.

Good enough for His Holiness is good enough for me!

340 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:33:43pm

re: #300 joncelli

Okay, the idea was that heroin is nearly impossible to kick and PCP causes violent behaviour. But I'm open to legalizing everything too.

Talk to a rehab center sometime; then come back and tell me all about the "safe" drugs.

341 Kenneth  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:33:44pm

re: #323 kansas

He pronounced nuclear nukuler. Only the left didn't go ape shit crazy over it.

Actually, I recall Jhimmi pronounced it "Nuk'lah"

342 ssn697  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:33:45pm

re: #289 Kenneth

Carter made Lieutenant before he left the Navy. He was training for nuclear sub duty, but never finished the course.

Like I said: Non-qual dink puke, breathin my air. It is comforting to know he never got his dolphins.

343 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:33:55pm

re: #325 Cato the Elder

The best empire is the one in which the imperial subjects (or at least the proxies who rule them

Wow! So the elected governments of (inter alia) Japan, Germany, the UK, and South Korea are merely our imperial proxies?!

Are you sure you wouldn't be more comfortable over at Democratic Underground? They talk just like you do.

344 Russkilitlover  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:33:55pm

re: #257 lawhawk

For those following the Scare Force One mess courtesy of the WH, Malkin reports that the White House will now release those photos after all.

They've had about enough time to fauxtoshop a whole bevy of them.
////////////////////

345 subsailor68  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:34:11pm

re: #324 ssn697

Thanks. Turns out falling asleep at Bellows while drunk, and getting that horrible sunburn was worse for me than I thought! I shouldn't have done it twice, lol.

Being stationed in Pearl, and being whiter than white may not be the best combo after all.

I am doing pretty good though. Thanks.

I'm really glad to hear it! Know what you mean about Pearl. I was stationed there from 74 to 76 at the Blue Building - and I'm Scottish on both sides, so you can probably figure out how white-skinned I am!

346 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:34:12pm
347 LGoPs  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:34:27pm

re: #309 Iron Fist

One of my ex-girlfriends older sister was a crack addict and prostitute. Really awful for the whole family. I had to let it be known that if she showed up at my house I'd have her arrested. That was a real popular position...

My sister is a crack addict and my mother is a pathological liar and gambler. I have a brother who is a serial murderer but all those things I can take in stride.
What fills me with the greatest shame is that I have a cousin who is a .......................journalist.
The family dare not speak his name except in hushed whispers.
/ ;

348 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:34:30pm

re: #243 ssn697

[Link: www.usdoj.gov...]

Marinol is the *real* way to go. I am mid cancer therapy, and have found it to be very helpful.

Didn't know that. I hope you are doing good and I wish you a full and speedy recovery.

349 opnion  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:34:50pm

re: #275 quickjustice

You'd have thought a savvy old cuss like Specter would have negotiated with Democrats for some seniority, like Lieberman when he was elected as an Independent. Specter was so enraged by the polling for the GOP primary that he jumped ship never calculating where he'd land.

Silly old fool.


Specter & Franken will have the least seniority. Wonder if Reid will make them run out for burgers?

350 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:35:20pm

re: #330 Guanxi88

Drinking it, I can see how it could be a valuable addition to a beverage. Vin mariani, for example, can be quite nice (had a shot of it once).

And there's nothing like coca leaf tea for washing down roasted guinea pig!

351 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:35:30pm

re: #343 Occasional Reader

Wow! So the elected governments of (inter alia) Japan, Germany, the UK, and South Korea are merely our imperial proxies?!

Are you sure you wouldn't be more comfortable over at Democratic Underground? They talk just like you do.

You're more fun to poke with a stick.

352 kansas  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:35:50pm

re: #341 Kenneth

Actually, I recall Jhimmi pronounced it "Nuk'lah"

Now that you mention it maybe it was newqulah.

353 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:36:16pm

re: #352 kansas

Now that you mention it maybe it was newqulah.

Is that Arabic?

354 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:36:23pm

re: #329 Occasional Reader

Plan your trip to the DC area. I won't say ammo's cheap here, but it appears to be plentiful. I topped up my .45acp stash just this weekend, no problem 't'all.

Well, I guess you guys haven't actually had the time to go out and exercise your rights properly in DC. Up here in East Bumfuck, Texas (just a short drive from Cut n' Shoot, BTW), things are a bit tight what with all the arsenals, etc. that we all keep in our compounds.

/

355 Guanxi88  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:36:31pm

re: #350 Occasional Reader

And there's nothing like coca leaf tea for washing down roasted guinea pig!

I recall reading that coca leaf tea was quite a common beverage in the late 19th century, and seem to recall reading that General Grant consumed it quite regularly.

356 quickjustice  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:36:40pm

re: #317 Killgore Trout

Morrissey's making a prediction. He might be right, or he might be wrong. Given that the UAW, rather than the government, is ending up with 55% of the company, that's a huge wealth transfer from taxpayers to the UAW any way you slice it.

I think Morrissey is likely to be right. I don't believe for a moment that a Chrysler operated by the UAW ever will see a profit. The only question is how long the taxpayers will keep it afloat. My prediction: until just after the 2012 Presidential election.

357 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:36:50pm

re: #350 Occasional Reader

And there's nothing like coca leaf tea for washing down roasted guinea pig!

Never had guinea pig, what's it like?

358 KenJen  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:37:10pm

Michelle Obama says appearing on Sesame Street is the best thing she's done in her life.She loves puppets.

359 debutaunt  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:37:14pm

re: #251 Sharmuta

OK- well, don't bother reading the rest of that comment then.

EDIT! EDIT!

360 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:37:14pm

re: #343 Occasional Reader

Wow! So the elected governments of (inter alia) Japan, Germany, the UK, and South Korea are merely our imperial proxies?!

Are you sure you wouldn't be more comfortable over at Democratic Underground? They talk just like you do.

Clark AFB, Philippines. Panama Canal. The fact that we control neither should lay to rest any talk of an American Empire.

361 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:37:16pm

re: #353 Cato the Elder

Is that Arabic?

HA!

It will be. It will be.

/Yoda voice needed

362 Honorary Yooper  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:37:20pm

re: #325 Cato the Elder

The best empire is the one in which the imperial subjects (or at least the proxies who rule them) are grateful, prosperous and contented. Just ask Octavian.

That does not mean it's not an empire.

Somehow I think that equating Gaius Octavianus and Barack Obama is a bit of a stretch. If it is an empire, it is a very strange empire indeed. One based not on conquests (see Gaius Julius Caesar) but one based on economics, protected by the US military.

363 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:37:31pm

re: #351 Cato the Elder

You're more fun to poke with a stick.

Being a troll is actually considered bad manners around here. You know that, right?

364 Kenneth  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:37:34pm

re: #325 Cato the Elder

You have to redefine the term "Empire" sufficiently to make it fit the case of the US. To be sure, the American "Empire" is nothing like the British, Russian, Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman, Chinese, Arab, Roman, Macedonian, Assyrian, Persian, Byzantine or any other "Empire" the world has seen.

365 kansas  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:37:34pm

re: #353 Cato the Elder

Is that Arabic?

My way of trying to describe Jimmy Carter phonetically pronouncing nuclear.

366 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:37:51pm

re: #248 hous bin pharteen

Why worry about that when they can complain about "water boarding". I was "water boarded" in the second grade when I was going to the Y learning to swim. It was the first time I learned to breath under-water, which did not work well. But now, can I sue Sister Mary Elephant?

Yeah. . .Catholics are in season. . .go for it, sue away!

367 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:37:54pm

re: #355 Guanxi88

I recall reading that coca leaf tea was quite a common beverage in the late 19th century, and seem to recall reading that General Grant consumed it quite regularly.

I want absinthe to be legalized.

368 Spare O'Lake  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:38:06pm

There goes President Jimmy Carter
Man he couldn't look much smarter
Snorting back a line or three
Hostage to the enemy

369 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:38:14pm

re: #357 callahan23

Never had guinea pig, what's it like?

Tastes like chicken.

A cliché, I know, but more or less true in this case. (Not much meat on 'em, either.)

370 solomonpanting  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:38:31pm

re: #168 Cato the Elder

Just as a reminder: If the US were not the number-one consumer of cocaine in the world there would be no narco trade.

How many domestic users are there?

the number of occasional users fell from about 7.3 million
in 1988 to about 4.0 million in 1993)
How many worldwide consumers:
The UN estimates: 14 million cocaine users.

The US certainly has more than its share.

371 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:38:48pm

re: #357 callahan23

Never had guinea pig, what's it like?

Why call it a Guinea pig? It's not Italian and it's not a pig..
/Dr. Doolittle

372 Gang of One  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:38:53pm

Time to clock out. BBL.

373 Guanxi88  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:38:53pm

re: #367 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I want absinthe to be legalized.

My understanding is that the wormwood extract used in it made it very damaging to the liver, and it was banned on grounds of the threat its consumption posed to the health of its drinkers.

374 Russkilitlover  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:39:00pm

re: #308 Nevergiveup

Madoff's secretary in on Fox. She is kinda cute but doesn't really know anything. Sound's like a real Brooklyn girl

Secretaries ALWAYS know. Count on it.

375 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:39:01pm

re: #349 opnion

Specter & Franken will have the least seniority. Wonder if Reid will make them run out for burgers?

And Pelosi's laundry. Low man has to get Pelosi's laundry. It's part of the hazing.

/

376 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:39:01pm

re: #367 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I want absinthe to be legalized.

No thanks for me, I am not gonna fuck with my brain.

377 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:39:18pm

re: #364 Kenneth

You have to redefine the term "Empire" sufficiently to make it fit the case of the US. To be sure, the American "Empire" is nothing like the British, Russian, Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman, Chinese, Arab, Roman, Macedonian, Assyrian, Persian, Byzantine or any other "Empire" the world has seen.

We're an "Empire", and Israel is carrying out a "genocide" against the Palestinians.

/

378 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:39:33pm

re: #328 Russkilitlover

Heh. Spectors response from your link:

Yeah, putz, that's how you gon boonswoggled into switching parties to begin with. A traitor is as despised by the new side as the old side. Heh.

The problem is that a lot of senior Democrats - you know, the ones who have actually put in the years to get their seniority - were pissed as hell at the thought of being brushed aside in favor of a carpetbagger. Reid has tenuous control over his own party in the Senate, at best, and won't invite a rebellion, especially from it's senior membership, where all the power resides, or he'll find himself out of his Speaker's job in a hot minute.

I predict that any decision on Arlen's seniority status will be postponed until after the election - to see if there's still an issue to deal with - and some sort of middle ground will be found, like granting him some fraction of his time in the GOP, but not all of it. It'll still torque off the membership, but maybe not so much.

379 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:39:44pm

re: #367 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I want absinthe to be legalized.

Because it makes the heart grow fonder?

380 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:39:49pm

re: #328 Russkilitlover

Heh. Spectors response from your link:


Yeah, putz, that's how you gon boonswoggled into switching parties to begin with. A traitor is as despised by the new side as the old side. Heh.

Trust, the most precious commodity. . .

381 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:39:52pm
382 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:40:10pm

re: #367 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I want absinthe to be legalized.

I think it is? Or at least they're selling something called absinthe, which may be very different from the original.

383 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:40:31pm

re: #369 Occasional Reader

Tastes like chicken.

A cliché, I know, but more or less true in this case. (Not much meat on 'em, either.)

Yeah, what would one expect from a rodent.

384 kansas  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:40:44pm

re: #349 opnion

Specter & Franken will have the least seniority. Wonder if Reid will make them run out for burgers?

Reid probably knows Franken would pick his nose on the them, so it's Arlen's job.

385 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:40:46pm

Got to go... too much to do, fun as this may be.

386 DisturbedEma  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:40:51pm

re: #375 OldLineTexan

And Pelosi's laundry. Low man has to get Pelosi's laundry. It's part of the hazing.

/


Nasty granny panties. . .discolored and. . . ack, ewww, thud

387 Guanxi88  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:40:54pm

re: #379 OldLineTexan

Because it makes the heart tart grow fonder?

FIFY - per Oscar Wilde

388 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:41:01pm

Anyone interested in a real Empire, that of Napoleon, should head over to the Constitution Center in Philadelphia this summer. It may be your only chance in America to see an item (his hat) worn by Napoleon in the field.

389 LGoPs  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:41:05pm

re: #325 Cato the Elder

The best empire is the one in which the imperial subjects (or at least the proxies who rule them) are grateful, prosperous and contented. Just ask Octavian.

That does not mean it's not an empire.

Seems to me the only ground our empire occupies is the ground it took to bury our soldiers.

390 Kenneth  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:41:14pm

re: #353 Cato the Elder

Is that Arabic?

Yes, Jhimmi Qatar was our first Arab president.

391 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:41:31pm

re: #342 ssn697

Like I said: Non-qual dink puke, breathin my air. It is comforting to know he never got his dolphins.

Hate to burst your bubble, but I think he was in Diesel boats before going to nuc training.

392 quickjustice  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:41:52pm

re: #374 Russkilitlover

I had a secretary from Brooklyn years ago. Italian-American, tap-danced as a hobby, and smart as a whip.

393 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:42:21pm

re: #357 callahan23

Never had guinea pig, what's it like?

Actually, the tested this on "Food Detectives" on the Food Network.

It tastes like chicken. Really. Three professional chefs were served dishes featuring it, without identification, and they all called it as chicken.

394 LGoPs  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:42:34pm

re: #364 Kenneth

You have to redefine the term "Empire" sufficiently to make it fit the case of the US. To be sure, the American "Empire" is nothing like the British, Russian, Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman, Chinese, Arab, Roman, Macedonian, Assyrian, Persian, Byzantine or any other "Empire" the world has seen.

Yeah. Our so called 'Empire' is the most benevolent one in history....for starters.

395 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:42:36pm

re: #383 callahan23

Yeah, what would one expect from a rodent.

Well, there are rodents & then there are rodents.

396 hous bin pharteen  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:42:54pm

re: #191 lawhawk

.................another Irish drunk................Hicup....

397 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:43:36pm

re: #395 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well, there are rodents & then there are rodents.

Now that one has some meat on the bones.

398 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:43:41pm

re: #367 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I want absinthe to be legalized.

You're wish has come true. Import of absinthe into the US was approved about a year ago. Get the to your local hard liquor distributor, and imbibe.

399 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:43:50pm

re: #395 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well, there are rodents & then there are rodents.

That would definitely serve a whole family. Yum.

400 jorline  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:44:00pm

Jimmy's been chewing those coca leaves for years...have a good trip!

401 quickjustice  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:44:11pm

re: #397 Creeping Eruption

The largest rodent in NYS (apart from the political class)--- the beaver.

402 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:44:18pm

re: #400 jorline

Jimmy's been chewing those coca leaves for years...have a good trip!

... and never leave the farm!

/

403 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:44:28pm

re: #399 callahan23

Hey, how did you like Gran Torino?

404 Kenneth  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:44:39pm

re: #377 Occasional Reader

Amen. Time for the obligatory Emperor "I Obamius" video clip...

Youtube Video
405 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:44:43pm

re: #358 KenJen

Michelle Obama says appearing on Sesame Street is the best thing she's done in her life.She loves puppets.

Well, her husband is a puppet of Soros.

406 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:45:23pm

re: #400 jorline

Jimmy's been chewing those coca leaves for years...have a good trip!

Hiya! how are you today?

407 ssn697  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:45:25pm

re: #379 OldLineTexan

Because it makes the heart grow fonder?

Could you hear me groan, through the computer.

/okay, I laughed AND groaned...

408 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:45:54pm

re: #406 HoosierHoops

Hiya! how are you today?

He's obviously goofing off instead of cleaning up after the lunch rush.

/

409 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:45:57pm

re: #376 callahan23

No thanks for me, I am not gonna fuck with my brain.

"OK, brain - I don't like you, and you don't like me! So let's get back to killing you with alcohol!"

Homer Simpson

410 Land Shark  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:46:18pm

re: #312 Guanxi88

During my trip to Colombia in '95 I had a bad case of altitude sickness while they took us for a drive in the Andes (incredible scenery, by the way). We stopped at a little restaurant where they made me a little coca leaf tea and that stuff really helped. Not long after I drank it the nausea and dizziness went away. They had several coca bushes in the place and they just picked a few leaves and made me the tea.

While I sipped my tea the people I was with proceeded to get snookered on aguardiente. Good thing the driver didn't drink!

411 [deleted]  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:46:21pm
412 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:46:25pm

re: #407 ssn697

Could you hear me groan, through the computer.

/okay, I laughed AND groaned...

Stolen (with pride) from Benny Hill, who no doubt stole it as well.

413 SixDegrees  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:47:17pm

re: #358 KenJen

Michelle Obama says appearing on Sesame Street is the best thing she's done in her life.She loves puppets.

Mmmmrmmrrrrmmph! Must bite tongue.

The delivery of a straight line like this, from such a source, may be proof that there is a God.

414 hazzyday  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:48:00pm

The coca leaf is a social norm in Peru and Bolivia. You can walk in the markets and see women carrying stacks of coca leafs on their back to the market. You can also buy squashed quinea pig. A national dish.

It's part of their history and culture. Coca Tea is readily available anywhere.

415 OldLineTexan  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:49:08pm

re: #414 hazzyday

The coca leaf is a social norm in Peru and Bolivia. You can walk in the markets and see women carrying stacks of coca leafs on their back to the market. You can also buy squashed quinea pig. A national dish.

It's part of their history and culture. Coca Tea is readily available anywhere.

Stomped fresh this morning?

/

416 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:49:18pm

re: #287 Creeping Eruption

I now a number of people who would pay the tax to legally be able to smoke well produced pot.

A legal product is usually much cheaper than a black market product. Add that a legal product is a consistent quality product, and most people would be very happy to buy legal pot.

417 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:50:10pm

re: #395 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well, there are rodents & then there are rodents.

Capybara live in low lands and they consume quite a lot of food.
The guinea pig on the other hand is small and needs only little food. Plus it feasts of the leftovers of the kitchen where the highland farmers breed them. Guinea pigs are easy to maintain and they need only few resources i.e. land.
Capybaras are animals that need a certain acreage.

418 jorline  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:50:46pm

re: #406 HoosierHoops

Hiya! how are you today?

Hi ya Hoopster...busy at the restaurant and kids end of school year activities...plus throw in soccer and baseball...not enough time...lol

How have you been?

419 Creeping Eruption  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:51:13pm

re: #416 FurryOldGuyJeans

A legal product is usually much cheaper than a black market product. Add that a legal product is a consistent quality product, and most people would be very happy to buy legal pot.

Yup

420 callahan23  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:52:48pm

re: #403 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hey, how did you like Gran Torino?

Gran Torino. Well, all in all a very fine film. It had those moments of unicornness as to the conversion of the racist. I would have wanted a more realistic depiction of the resistance of his former beliefs.
Overall pretty good and not too politically correct.
Elicited a lot of ohhs, ahhs and embarrassed laughter from the German audience when those old men were ranting, raving and throwing insults.
*snigger*

421 Throbert McGee  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:53:10pm

re: #43 hous bin pharteen

He was a peanut farmer. Why not coca beans?

African-American History Fact: One of George Washington Carver's lesser-known patents was a process for synthesizing high-grade cocaine out of peanut oil.

/

422 jorline  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:55:39pm

re: #421 Throbert McGee

African-American History Fact: One of George Washington Carver's lesser-known patents was a process for synthesizing high-grade cocaine out of peanut oil.

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The Washington of today is synthesizing cash out of thin air.
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423 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:56:15pm

re: #362 Honorary Yooper

Somehow I think that equating Gaius Octavianus and Barack Obama is a bit of a stretch. If it is an empire, it is a very strange empire indeed. One based not on conquests (see Gaius Julius Caesar) but one based on economics, protected by the US military.

Tell that to a Filipino, for example.

424 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:58:08pm

re: #421 Throbert McGee

African-American History Fact: One of George Washington Carver's lesser-known patents was a process for synthesizing high-grade cocaine out of peanut oil.

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"Behind every good man there is a woman, and that woman was Martha Washington, man, and everyday George would come home, she would have a big fat bowl waiting for him, man, when he come in the door, man, she was a hip, hip, hip lady, man."

-Slater, Dazed and Confused (different George Washington, I know)

425 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, May 6, 2009 12:58:18pm

re: #125 Honorary Yooper

I think he's still pissy that America rejected him in 1980 and chose an actor. He's never gotten over it.

I think you're on to something.

"Those idiots chose a (Southerner/Actor/Cowboy/Big Dumb Guy) over (Smart/Nuanced/Intellectual/Smartest Guy In The Room/Yankee) me?"

It's classic leftie Dem bitterness. We saw this come to a head with the post-2004 "Red State/Blue State" meme. "How could those idiots chose HIM? Don't they know they're voting against THEIR OWN BEST INTERESTS? They must be DUPES! It's a CONSPIRACY! They don't DESERVE a smarty man like (Carter/Kerry/whoever), anyway! FUCK THEM!"

Except in Jimmah's case, it's internalized. Think of the uncannily French way he always does the opposite of what's morally correct and sensible. Think of the way he always sides against Israel because he thinks the Jews killed Jesus. He is a very small, a very tiny, tiny, sad little man, masquerading as a statesman because of his monumental insecurity.

426 Cato the Elder  Wed, May 6, 2009 1:01:53pm

re: #363 Occasional Reader

Being a troll is actually considered bad manners around here. You know that, right?

Again, the word "empire" has no particular pejorative overtone for me. It is a historical descriptor.

427 ssn697  Wed, May 6, 2009 1:08:13pm

re: #420 callahan23

Gran Torino. Well, all in all a very fine film. It had those moments of unicornness as to the conversion of the racist. I would have wanted a more realistic depiction of the resistance of his former beliefs.
Overall pretty good and not too politically correct.
Elicited a lot of ohhs, ahhs and embarrassed laughter from the German audience when those old men were ranting, raving and throwing insults.
*snigger*

Not to hijack your conversation, but I never thought of his character as racist. A different time, different world, different life experience. I found his "I have more in common with these people than my own family" line more telling of his thoughts.

I agree it was a bit too convenient on his quick change though. I sure did enjoy being able to watch a non-PC movie.

428 Kenneth  Wed, May 6, 2009 1:14:32pm

re: #426 Cato the Elder

Again, the word "empire" has no particular pejorative overtone for me. It is a historical descriptor.

The Romans spoke Latin, right? And US money has some Latin words on it, right? Well, I guess that about cinches it: America is an Empire.

429 avanti  Wed, May 6, 2009 1:14:33pm

re: #398 SixDegrees

You're wish has come true. Import of absinthe into the US was approved about a year ago. Get the to your local hard liquor distributor, and imbibe.

Tried it on a gambling junket to New Orleans, but I was too drunk by the time I tried it to give it a fair evaluation.

430 Natasha  Wed, May 6, 2009 1:29:05pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

Say no to liquor too!

YIKES!

heh... The mug is Carter's, but the name says "Brezhnev". Come to think of it, the two were not much different. Both senile old commies.

431 wiffersnapper  Wed, May 6, 2009 2:05:50pm

The peanut farmer angle was simply a front for today.

432 eprn1n2  Wed, May 6, 2009 9:44:28pm

re: #34 subsailor68

Asked for his opinion on coca and pot, former president Carter said something real fast that nobody could understand, then ate an entire pizza.

Damn funny.

433 Macker  Wed, May 6, 2009 11:49:23pm

re: #38 irongrampa

Sorry, the 48-Hour Rule expired yesterday. I'm surprised Charles posted this so late....:)

434 HelloDare  Thu, May 7, 2009 2:34:17am

Fake but accurate.

435 Captain Cool  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:24:35am

Finally, a job worthy of Jimmy Carter. I hope he keeps harvesting in Bolivia for a long long time.


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