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It is never too late to have a happy childhood.

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1 gmsc  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:21:27pm

As my job proves!
;)

2 Floral Giraffe  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:23:04pm

I love that quote, and make every effort to have some FUN everyday.
Just enough to appreciate it. Not let it guide my life.

3 BignJames  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:23:06pm

Yeah, but it can be expensive.

4 Timbre  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:23:23pm

Happy, happy! Joy, joy! (Too much Ren and Stimpy from Daddyhood...)

5 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:23:34pm

Cool. I have already reverted. Of course my first one was great too.

6 Floral Giraffe  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:24:39pm

A sense of wonder, is good too.
GMSC you do maths, like they are fun for you.

7 gmsc  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:25:07pm

re: #3 BignJames

Yeah, but it can be expensive.

The best things in life are free . . .

8 gmsc  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:25:59pm

re: #6 Floral Giraffe

A sense of wonder, is good too.
GMSC you do maths, like they are fun for you.

Of course! And math is fun for me. It's no fun if you turn it into work.
:)

9 Timbre  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:27:13pm

And its corollary: It's never too soon to make a child happy.

10 Floral Giraffe  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:28:58pm

And it's just such a pleasure, to make a child happy! And usually easy too!
Ice cream!

11 Fenway_Nation  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:31:24pm

Remember lizards, Saturday May 9th is National Train Day.

12 BignJames  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:31:31pm

re: #7 gmsc

The best things in life are free . . .




Not necessarily

13 wiffersnapper  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:31:37pm

Back from Star Trek! Pretty good movie, and I'm no Star Trek geek myself.

14 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:32:40pm

re: #1 gmsc

You get paid for throwing rocks at bottles, and blowing up G.I. Joes?

/what are y'all looking at? what did you do to have fun as a child?

15 cygnus  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:32:51pm

I'm going to see Star Trek this weekend. I can't wait!
And I finally got a job! Woo-Hoo!

16 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:33:29pm

re: #10 Floral Giraffe

Our daughter loved pizza. She'd feign some illness and tell us she needed a "flat pill" to make it all better, we found it was pizza. She also liked spinach and chicken livers which didn't go over well with the kids at "show and tell". LOL

17 gmsc  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:33:40pm

re: #14 Slumbering Behemoth

You get paid for throwing rocks at bottles, and blowing up G.I. Joes?

/what are y'all looking at? what did you do to have fun as a child?

That must've been your melted mass of green army men I found in my backyard years ago.

18 Timbre  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:33:58pm

re: #11 Fenway_Nation

Remember lizards, Saturday May 9th is National Train Day.

My Grandfather was a lifelong employee of the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe line.

19 Gorf  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:34:36pm

to make a child happy, just pay attention to him. No treats necessary
(but ice cream doesn't hurt)
Just your undivided attention

20 redc1c4  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:36:50pm

yes it is... but you can make life hell for the people who make that childhood impossible.

/grumpy tonight

21 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:37:02pm

re: #11 Fenway_Nation

Remember lizards, Saturday May 9th is National Train Day.

Cool, maybe I will take the local train somewhere. Don't forget Saturday, May 16th is Armed Forces Day. Support the troops.

[Link: www.defenselink.mil...]

22 redc1c4  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:38:25pm

re: #11 Fenway_Nation

Remember lizards, Saturday May 9th is National Train Day.

maybe if they spent a fraction of that effort on meeting their schedules...

/shit: what am *i* thinking?

23 Fenway_Nation  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:40:08pm

re: #18 Timbre

According to family lore, my great great grandfather came to this country after hiring on with one of the railways out of Montreal. He eventually got transferred to upstate NY while working for the same railway.

24 gmsc  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:40:48pm

The Demagoguery Moves to GM

From a reader, via Bloomberg

GM’s offer is “grossly unfair to the point of abusive,” Glenn Reynolds, chief executive officer of CreditSights Inc. in New York, wrote in a report this week. “Politics remains an overriding factor in the equation and has been decidedly unfriendly to the interest of bondholders in a contest with the disproportionately outsized power of organized labor and other Washington-heavy constituencies and interest groups.”…

“The attack on institutional investors by the administration in this process is a very strange approach and borders on demagoguery,” CreditSights’ Reynolds wrote in the report. “The bondholders are being painted into a corner and will have no chance but to stand and fight. You can call them names as long as they get treated fairly. Offer them virtually nothing and then call them names? Now that’s just cold.”

And here is Cliff Asness, a hedge fund manager not involved with Chrysler:

• “Let’s be clear, it is the job and obligation of all investment managers, including hedge fund managers, to get their clients the most return they can. They are allowed to be charitable with their own money, and many are spectacularly so, but if they give away their clients’ money to share in the “sacrifice”, they are stealing.”

• “The President screaming that the hedge funds are looking for an unjustified taxpayer-funded bailout is the big lie writ large. Find me a hedge fund that has been bailed out. Find me a hedge fund, even a failed one, that has asked for one. In fact, it was only because hedge funds have not taken government funds that they could stand up to this bullying. The TARP recipients had no choice but to go along.”

• “The President’s attempted diktat takes money from bondholders and gives it to a labor union that delivers money and votes for him. Why is he not calling on his party to “sacrifice” some campaign contributions, and votes, for the greater good? Shaking down lenders for the benefit of political donors is recycled corruption and abuse of power.”

25 Floral Giraffe  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:42:14pm

My Sis has 4 kids, that come to visit every summer. They really look forward to "snail hunting" in the yard at Gramma's. Baggie full of salt & a flashlight. Endless entertainment. When the now 16 y/o was about 4 he could say "frow snail".

26 BatGuano  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:42:32pm

re: #7 gmsc

You remember the Hollywood Palace. I like "I wish it would rain" the best.

27 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:43:24pm

re: #17 gmsc

Heh, I am one of the younger Lizards around here, but I am just old enough to remember Tonka Toys, and I had a few as a kid. Couldn't wreck them for nuthin' (we all tried).

Tonkas and roaches, the only things capable of surviving a nuclear apocalypse.

/G.I. Joes and Army Men, not so much

28 Floral Giraffe  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:44:33pm

re: #26 BatGuano

Is the Palace still standing? And the Palladium? Great places to go to for a performance!

29 BatGuano  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:45:59pm

re: #11 Fenway_Nation

I like train songs.

30 Floral Giraffe  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:47:05pm

re: #15 cygnus

CONGRATULATIONS! Yes, I meant to yell. That's great news!

31 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:49:35pm

Don't laugh. Here is where I'm going next weekend:

[Link: www.mineralcountychamber.com...]

It's a hokie little celebration but you've got to give them credit for celebrating the troops for 59 years.

32 BatGuano  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:51:50pm

re: #28 Floral Giraffe

I have no idea. That was many years ago and I have not kept up.

33 BignJames  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:51:51pm

re: #29 BatGuano

I like train songs.




Oh yeah?

34 BatGuano  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:52:50pm

re: #24 gmsc

Proect the UAW at all costs!

35 Floral Giraffe  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:53:19pm

re: #31 Pvt Bin Jammin
What fun! I go to a local parade every year, it's their 50th anniversary this year. Featured service is the Navy. Always a treat. Military hardware set up in a big parking lot for 4 days to look at & talk to our brave service members!

36 redc1c4  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:53:57pm

re: #23 Fenway_Nation

According to family lore, my great great grandfather came to this country after hiring on with one of the railways out of Montreal. He eventually got transferred to upstate NY while working for the same railway.

so he got railroaded into becoming an American?

you should sue...

37 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:54:01pm

re: #25 Floral Giraffe

My Sis has 4 kids, that come to visit every summer. They really look forward to "snail hunting" in the yard at Gramma's. Baggie full of salt & a flashlight. Endless entertainment. When the now 16 y/o was about 4 he could say "frow snail".

That sounds like something my mom would have done with the grandkids. She was so much fun and died way too young but her grandchildren adored her. She'd let them help her bake and get flour all over the kitchen.

38 gmsc  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:55:14pm

If you think you've had a bad day, I bet Bellagio Hotel and Casino Employee Calvin Darling's day today can top it.

• He woke up this morning in Las Vegas, in the Clark County Detention Center.

• More specifically, he woke up in the drunk tank.

• He also woke up with bandages from several wounds.

• He then learned that his wounds were incurred while he was driving drunk...

• ...and crashed...

• ...into another person in another car...

• ...and that the person died on the scene...

• ...and that the crash was so bad, it took police 20 minutes to remove the other person from the wreck...

• ...of their Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Patrol Car...

• ...and that the officer who died was planning to celebrate his 2-year anniversary on the force just 4 days from now.

Oops.

39 redc1c4  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:56:52pm

re: #29 BatGuano

I like train songs.


[Video]

Savoy Brown

40 Floral Giraffe  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:57:08pm

re: #38 gmsc

Can't fix stupid.

41 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:57:59pm

re: #35 Floral Giraffe

What fun! I go to a local parade every year, it's their 50th anniversary this year. Featured service is the Navy. Always a treat. Military hardware set up in a big parking lot for 4 days to look at & talk to our brave service members!

Our town used to be Navy, guarded by the Marines. It's Army now and very different but we'll probably get a humvee and a few other things. Lots of training goes on there. Maybe we'll get the SEALS this year. They skydive in.

42 BatGuano  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:58:26pm

re: #33 BignJames

Great one, too. Good live performance.

43 Floral Giraffe  Thu, May 7, 2009 11:59:34pm

re: #41 Pvt Bin Jammin

It's fun. They honor a different branch of the service every year. We're near a major airport, so the Airforce years we all get buzzed. Makes the windows rattle!

44 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, May 8th:
Click for History Channel Video

Highlights of this day: Joan of Arc and her troops drive British troops from Orleans, France. Coca-Cola invented. First female Citadel cadet graduates. V-E Day is celebrated.

Other notable May 8th events include:

1914 – Paramount Pictures is formed.

1970 – The Hard Hat riot occurs in the Wall Street area of New York City as blue-collar construction workers clash with anti-war demonstrators protesting the Vietnam War.

1976 – The rollercoaster Revolution (roller coaster), the first steel coaster with a vertical flip, opens at Six Flags Magic Mountain

1978 – First ascent of Mount Everest without supplemental oxygen, by Reinhold Messner and Peter Habeler.

1980 – The eradication of smallpox is endorsed by the World Health Organization.

1984 – The Soviet Union announces that it will boycott the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles, California.

1988 – A fire at Illinois Bell's Hinsdale Central Office triggers an extended 1AESS network outage once considered the 'worst telecommunications disaster in US telephone industry history' is still the worst to occur on Mother's Day.

1990 – Reindependence Day of Estonia

45 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:01:08am
46 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:01:29am

re: #40 Floral Giraffe

Can't fix stupid.

no, but you can put in jail for a good long time.

47 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:02:24am

re: #39 redc1c4

I'm liking your Savoy Brown. They're new to me, thank you!

49 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:03:00am

re: #43 Floral Giraffe

Our little town celebrates them all and we do always get a flyover. Usually jets, followed by some old National Guard Plane and maybe even a chopper. It's fun. A few years back we got the USMC Silent Drill Team. Awesome.

50 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:03:36am

re: #47 Floral Giraffe

I'm liking your Savoy Brown. They're new to me, thank you!

and yet, oh so old school... glad you like them. that song just keeps on rolling. the LP version ends when the tape ran out.

/for those of you who remember what an LP is. %-)

51 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:08:42am

re: #29 BatGuano

I like train songs.

Ballad of Casey Jones

52 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:09:28am

re: #48 gmsc

OMG that just breaks my heart.

Godspeed, Officer James Manor.

53 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:09:34am

re: #38 gmsc

Ugh. Take a cab, or sleep it off under a bush. Both have worked for me. It ain't worth the risk to drive drunk. A sad story that did not have to happen.

54 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:09:37am

re: #39 redc1c4

Great song (still listening). My favorite train train song is by Johnny Burnette
and his rock and roll trio. "Dig" the bass.

55 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:13:33am

re: #52 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG that just breaks my heart.

Godspeed, Officer James Manor.

He was only 28 years old, too. Can you imagine being his wife, probably around the same age, and getting the call where she learns she's now a widow?

56 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:14:24am

re: #48 gmsc

Did you see this earlier, it is posted in the links under "crime" if you want to comment?

I guess I don't know how to link a link but here is the article, it's enough to make you sick:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

57 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:14:39am

re: #38 gmsc

Sad story. Many victims.

58 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:14:42am

re: #29 BatGuano

I like train songs.


[Video]

Another good train-related story & song – John Henry!

Part 1:

Part 2:

59 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:16:31am

re: #55 gmsc

He was only 28 years old, too. Can you imagine being his wife, probably around the same age, and getting the call where she learns she's now a widow?

Poor lady, I can't even imagine. My daughter was a cop for two years. You try to suck it up but the truth is you worry.

60 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:17:01am

re: #56 Pvt Bin Jammin

Did you see this earlier, it is posted in the links under "crime" if you want to comment?

I guess I don't know how to link a link but here is the article, it's enough to make you sick:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Hey, 0bama, if you can state your plan in person to the face of the widow Manor within the next week, I'll support it. Otherwise . . . not so much.

61 ArchangelMichael  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:17:43am

re: #44 gmsc

Today in History

1980 – The eradication of smallpox is endorsed by the World Health Organization.

2009 - Smallpox comes back thanks to Jenny McCarthy and her legion of Antivaxxers

62 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:18:17am

re: #54 BatGuano

Great song (still listening). My favorite train train song is by Johnny Burnette
and his rock and roll trio. "Dig" the bass.


love that song... here's two different takes by the Yardbirds:
white and black

/look at their shirts... maybe the same tour?

63 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:18:53am

re: #61 ArchangelMichael

2009 - Smallpox comes back thanks to Jenny McCarthy and her legion of Antivaxxers

and kills all the stupid people... natural selection or intelligent design?

64 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:19:14am

re: #60 gmsc

Hey, 0bama, if you can state your plan in person to the face of the widow Manor within the next week, I'll support it. Otherwise . . . not so much.

Hey, Prez, I'll buy you a ticket to Vegas, just so you can meet that lady in person.

65 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:19:32am

re: #61 ArchangelMichael

2009 - Smallpox comes back thanks to Jenny McCarthy and her legion of Antivaxxers

That's the main reason I included that event – I couldn't help but think of Jenny McCarthy's stupidity.

66 ArchangelMichael  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:19:34am

re: #63 redc1c4

and kills all the stupid people... natural selection or intelligent design?

WHY DO YOU HATE BIMBOS!

///

67 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:22:10am

re: #66 ArchangelMichael

WHY DO YOU HATE BIMBOS!

///

i don't, but i'm married to a very intelligent woman.

(well, her taste in men is suspect, but she's very well educated. %-)

68 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:23:01am

re: #55 gmsc

What aggravates me most about such stories is how unnecessary they are. Cab rides are cheap. It's better, even, to spend a night in the drunk tank.

I've even chosen to pass out in some strange places rather than drive. Once, I "slept" right through a sprinkler cycle. Woke up all wet and muddy wondering "WTF!?". Stupid on my part, certainly, but I did not drive.

69 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:24:56am

re: #62 redc1c4

LOL! Second link includes Jeff Beck. My first concert was Aerosmith opening for Jeff Beck. I was deaf for WEEKS! It was great.

70 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:24:57am

re: #68 Slumbering Behemoth

What aggravates me most about such stories is how unnecessary they are. Cab rides are cheap. It's better, even, to spend a night in the drunk tank.

I've even chosen to pass out in some strange places rather than drive. Once, I "slept" right through a sprinkler cycle. Woke up all wet and muddy wondering "WTF!?". Stupid on my part, certainly, but I did not drive.

i've woken up wet and muddy, but it was more like "WTF was i thinking to join the Army?"

you're dead on right. i'll curl up and sleep on a porcupine before i drive anywhere.

71 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:26:01am

re: #69 Floral Giraffe

LOL! Second link includes Jeff Beck. My first concert was Aerosmith opening for Jeff Beck. I was deaf for WEEKS! It was great.

didn't really watch them both, but i believe Jeff and Jimmy are in both...

/i could be wrong though.

72 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:26:18am

re: #70 redc1c4

Rat update?
No critters here, tonight...

73 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:27:47am

re: #62 redc1c4

Possibly same tour. I wonder what the classic studio version of Train kept a rollin' would have been with Clapton on lead. Perhaps the right guitarist (Jeff Beck) was the right man for the job.

74 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:27:54am

Goodnight, lizards, I am out.

God Bless Officer James Manor.

75 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:28:54am

re: #74 Pvt Bin Jammin

Goodnight, lizards, I am out.

God Bless Officer James Manor.

Good night, PBJ.

76 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:28:59am

re: #74 Pvt Bin Jammin

G'night Pvt.

77 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:30:37am

there's a PSA idea: get George Thurogood to redo his signature song as I Drink At Home...

78 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:30:41am

re: #70 redc1c4

Amen. Oddly enough, and despite my foolish excesses of the past, I have never been this drunk.

79 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:30:50am

re: #60 gmsc

So let's see...0bama's idea of sacrifice for him and the veep is to skip the arugula salad and get a cheeseburger in Arlington.

0bama's idea of sacrifice for Manor's widow is to cut her husband's death benefits in half.

80 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:30:52am

re: #28 Floral Giraffe

I was about to go to bed. Didn't look up the Palace but did look up the Paladium. It's still there.

[Link: www.livenation.com...]

nite

81 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:31:37am

re: #72 Floral Giraffe

Rat update?
No critters here, tonight...

hot as hell all day, windy too, still breezy tonight... so far nada, but you've inspired me to go check.

82 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:34:15am

re: #77 redc1c4

*Ahem*, "alone", not "at home".

/the song is a personal favorite of mine

83 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:34:26am

re: #78 Slumbering Behemoth

Amen. Oddly enough, and despite my foolish excesses of the past, I have never been this drunk.

but have you been this drunk?

84 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:35:26am

re: #61 ArchangelMichael

2009 - Smallpox comes back thanks to Jenny McCarthy and her legion of Antivaxxers

Fortunately, even McCarthy's monumental stupidity wouldn't quite be able to accomplish that feat without some serious government malfeasance. Smallpox is the first - and only - disease to be truly eradicated from the planet. It has no hosts other than humans, and there is none of the virus circulating in the world's population, thanks to a decades-long effort led by WHO that successfully ended in 1980. The only repositories of the virus are in military biological labs in the US and in Russia that are kept for research purposes. In this one instance, I have lobbied hard for their destruction over the years, especially now that they can be completely genetically sequenced and any value they may have in understanding future illnesses can thus be gleaned from them in their absence. But barring a release from these labs, no amount of blithering idiocy on McCarthy's part will lead to a resurgence in this particular disease.

It might lead to a complete inability to contain a future release, accidental or otherwise, as significant segments of the population decide that vaccination against this scourge are more dangerous than the death and maiming it brings to it's victims.

85 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:36:30am

re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth

*Ahem*, "alone", not "at home".

/the song is a personal favorite of mine

i said "redo the song as..." hence the PSA: rename the song to get folks to drink at home, where you don't have to drive afterward.

/sheesh.

86 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:41:42am

re: #84 SixDegrees

I enjoy reading all of your comments. Thank you!

87 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:42:28am

re: #79 Fenway_Nation

Why would cutting those benefits even rise to the level of the White house? And why would the president even consider cutting them? Rhetorical questions, for sure. But, wouldn't every past president said hell no?

88 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:43:45am

re: #87 BatGuano

Because some PR flack, has told him he needs to be seen to be REDUCING the budget.
GAH!
He's "cutting" 0.01%? If that.
GACK!

89 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:44:00am

re: #85 redc1c4

Sheesh indeed, Red. My bad. I went right to the link without reading the rest of your post. Sorry.

/phuck, good thing I ain't driving tonight

90 ArchangelMichael  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:44:23am

re: #84 SixDegrees

True. It was more of a whimsical musing on my part to express appropriate disdain for the anti-vaccination hysteria.

91 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:44:24am

re: #87 BatGuano

Looking for change in the couch cushions of the Nations budget!

92 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:46:13am

re: #91 Floral Giraffe

Looking for change in the couch cushions of the Nations budget!

hope he finds some...

93 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:46:56am

re: #88 Floral Giraffe

Because some PR flack, has told him he needs to be seen to be REDUCING the budget.
GAH!
He's "cutting" 0.01%? If that.
GACK!

Here's a visualization of how much his budget cuts go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt8hTayupE

Now, compare that to Bill Whittle's visualization of trillions of dollars!

94 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:47:56am

re: #89 Slumbering Behemoth

Sheesh indeed, Red. My bad. I went right to the link without reading the rest of your post. Sorry.

/phuck, good thing I ain't driving tonight

need a beer?

they're Nasty Ice, but at the 34* my frig keeps them they're tolerable, if you pound them.

/that likely explains many things, no? %-)

95 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:48:58am

re: #93 gmsc

Here's a visualization of how much his budget cuts go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt8hTayupE

Now, compare that to Bill Whittle's visualization of trillions of dollars!

Sorry, here's the first video as it should've appeared. PIMF.

96 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:49:35am

re: #95 gmsc

Sorry, here's the first video as it should've appeared. PIMF.

[Video]

PIFW.

97 axegrinder  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:51:57am

re: #88 Floral Giraffe

Because some PR flack, has told him he needs to be seen to be REDUCING the budget.
GAH!
He's "cutting" 0.01%? If that.
GACK!

Heard it referred to as scooping a teaspoon's worth of water from a bathtub with the faucet on full blast on the news yesterday. Pretty accurate.

98 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:52:39am

re: #93 gmsc

THAT IS GREAT!
I saw a program truck here today & knew a chunk could be cut from someone's budget ( and, MY taxes). Why is it that politicians are so GLIB about spending OUR money? And, more importantly, how do we change that?

99 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:52:53am

re: #97 axegrinder

Heard it referred to as scooping a teaspoon's worth of water from a bathtub with the faucet on full blast on the news yesterday. Pretty accurate.

it's not even a rounding error in a budget the size of his...

100 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:54:22am

re: #94 redc1c4

Nasty Ice? One of my regulars, along with Icehouse and Steel Reserve.

/best drunk while damn near frozen

101 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:54:36am

re: #95 gmsc

I'm happy to see Bill whittle is out of Hibernation. Most recently he took on Hiroshima and Nagasaki myths. For several years I went to Eject!Eject!Eject!
and there were no updates. Welcome back bill!

102 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:55:53am

re: #101 BatGuano

I'm happy to see Bill whittle is out of Hibernation. Most recently he took on Hiroshima and Nagasaki myths. For several years I went to Eject!Eject!Eject!
and there were no updates. Welcome back bill!

His migration to pajamasmedia, including his afterburner work for them, is a large part of the reason for the recent hibernation. Although, there was some earlier time that was personal obligations.

103 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 12:56:49am

re: #98 Floral Giraffe

THAT IS GREAT!
I saw a program truck here today & knew a chunk could be cut from someone's budget ( and, MY taxes). Why is it that politicians are so GLIB about spending OUR money? And, more importantly, how do we change that?

Because they never mentally label is as our money. Vote out the ones who keep spending the money.

Which reminds me, Harry Reid is up for reelection in 2010 . . .

104 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:00:05am

re: #100 Slumbering Behemoth

Nasty Ice? One of my regulars, along with Icehouse and Steel Reserve.

/best drunk while damn near frozen

Colt 45... it's not just for the pistol range anymore.

SR is nasty, even when frozen, IMHO.

105 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:00:36am

re: #102 gmsc

I remember him alluding to personal obligations about 4 years ago. I just stopped going to his website. He had been posting great stuff.

106 axegrinder  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:01:08am

So how 'bout that Arlen Specter? Had his seniority stripped by his new masters. After good 'ol Harry told him it wouldn't happen...
Sucker.

I won't miss him.

107 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:01:43am

re: #93 gmsc

It made me sick, before the pallets of 100 dollar bills got explained.
Can't I just have the money I've earned?

108 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:03:02am

re: #107 Floral Giraffe

Didn't you get the memo?

"All your money are belong to us"

109 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:03:32am

re: #107 Floral Giraffe

It made me sick, before the pallets of 100 dollar bills got explained.
Can't I just have the money I've earned?

With the current administration, they obviously have the attitude that it's their money, and they're just letting you use it temporarily.

110 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:04:57am

Well...on that fairly depressing note, I'm off!

later, honcos!

weet dreams...

/too damn sleepy to find a halfway decent grain elevator shot.

111 axegrinder  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:05:05am

re: #107 Floral Giraffe

It made me sick, before the pallets of 100 dollar bills got explained.
Can't I just have the money I've earned?

You know, it wouldn't be so bad if I didn't see every day how our tax money gets wasted and I see people who don't do any work living better then I do. It irritates me. Then when I see people doing something about it and protesting I see the MSM(and some blogs as well) trash them and mock them. We are on a fast track to socialism and nobody cares.

112 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:05:24am

re: #104 redc1c4

Nasty, but high octane and cheap.

/on a budget, here

113 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:05:32am

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

Well...on that fairly depressing note, I'm off!

later, honcos!

weet dreams...

/too damn sleepy to find a halfway decent grain elevator shot.

G'Nite, Fenway!

114 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:05:50am

re: #108 BatGuano

Didn't you get the memo?

"All your money are belong to us"

i've fooled them: i'm not earning any money...

/sucks to be me

115 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:05:57am

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

Good night, Fenway.

116 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:07:01am

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

Nasty, but high octane and cheap.

/on a budget, here

you ain't the Lone Ranger on that item...

117 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:08:10am

re: #114 redc1c4

Ha! You've beaten them! As a matter of fact, so have I.
:0

118 axegrinder  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:09:35am

re: #114 redc1c4

i've fooled them: i'm not earning any money...

/sucks to be me

That''s one reason Europe will recover slower then the U.S. They have generous unemployment benefits there and also their laws make firing and reducing salaries so hard businesses will be slow to rehire. The system sucks and we are going to model ours after theirs. Makes no sense to me.

119 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:10:21am

Jimmy Page *before* he through away his future to just be a musician...

120 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:11:02am

re: #118 axegrinder

That''s one reason Europe will recover slower then the U.S. They have generous unemployment benefits there and also their laws make firing and reducing salaries so hard businesses will be slow to rehire. The system sucks and we are going to model ours after theirs. Makes no sense to me.

you need to see if you can find a government program to send you back for nuance training...

121 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:12:20am

It's the end of the world, as we know it!

122 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:14:29am

re: #119 redc1c4

You magnificent bastard (apologies to Carl Rove). Jimmy Page playing Skiffle. I had no idea such a video existed. Thank you!

123 axegrinder  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:14:37am

re: #120 redc1c4

I'll just study John Kerry's career. Learn from the master.

124 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:14:38am

Good Morning Lizards.

125 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:14:43am

re: #121 Floral Giraffe

It's the end of the world, as we know it!

[Video]

a veritable Holiday in Cambodia!

126 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:15:27am

re: #121 Floral Giraffe

It's the end of the world, as we know it!

[Video]

Embedding disabled.

127 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:15:30am

re: #123 axegrinder

I'll just study John Kerry's career. Learn from the master.

so, you're looking at a career in baiting?

128 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:15:54am

re: #124 Erik The Red

Good Morning Lizards.

Good morning, Erik!

129 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:16:09am

re: #122 BatGuano

I tried to upding you a second time but couldn't. Damnit!

130 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:16:53am

re: #124 Erik The Red

Good morning Eric.

131 ArchangelMichael  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:17:40am

I finally figured it out. Exactly how and why Obama won the election and gets a pass on everything.

132 axegrinder  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:17:49am

re: #122 BatGuano

They do "Them 'ol Cotton Fields Back Home" after that clip. Pretty weird hearing English kids singing country.

133 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:21:37am

re: #132 axegrinder

Yes it is. I knew that Lennon and McCartney began with skiffle, but I had never actually heard it. It's what mt grandparents and others used to play on the front porch when when I was a fledgling.

134 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:21:57am

NATo meets the Beach Boys oldie but a goodie

135 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:22:07am

re: #128 gmsc

re: #130 BatGuano

bat and gmsc {man hug}

136 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:22:17am

re: #116 redc1c4

you ain't the Lone Ranger on that item...

Damn skippy I ain't. High five on that, Lizard!

/better make that a high three, I'm on a budget...

137 eddiespaghetti  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:22:20am

Pakistan says "its on" again, with the Taliban in the Swat Valley. Well thats a relief... (pause)... not.

I think they need a "Draft Musharraf" program. Best they can do IMAO.

138 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:22:42am

re: #126 gmsc
I'm not that sophistocated. Link from Youtube. Sorry if it didn't work!

139 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:25:35am

re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth

Damn skippy I ain't. High five on that, Lizard!

/better make that a high three, I'm on a budget...

i can affor to stick one up... your guess which one. %-)

140 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:27:13am

re: #138 Floral Giraffe

I'm not that sophistocated. Link from Youtube. Sorry if it didn't work!

There are a few quick ways to make sure it will work:

1) Hit preview before posting a video to LGF, to make sure the video plays.

2) When you're at a YouTube page itself, such as this one, look at the Embed box. If, as in the linked example, it says, "Embedding disabled by request", it won't work.

3) When searching for videos, try searching with Google Video. If you can play a YouTube video from the search engine page, you'll be able to play it on LGF. If it doesn't work on there, it won't work on LGF, either.

141 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:27:45am

re: #133 BatGuano

Without the English accent of course. It was an Oklahoma/ Tennessee accent.

142 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:28:36am

re: #140 gmsc

There are a few quick ways to make sure it will work:

1) Hit preview before posting a video to LGF, to make sure the video plays.

2) When you're at a YouTube page itself, such as this one, look at the Embed box. If, as in the linked example, it says, "Embedding disabled by request", it won't work.

3) When searching for videos, try searching with Google Video. If you can play a YouTube video from the search engine page, you'll be able to play it on LGF. If it doesn't work on there, it won't work on LGF, either.

or you could just post the farggin link and be done with it...

Is this the was to Armadillo?

(more NATo humour)

143 Floral Giraffe  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:28:52am

I just HATE to go to bed with REM's "it's the end of the world" in my head. But, it's past sleepy time, here.
Goodnight, Lizards, and may your tomorrow be a happy childhood!

144 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:29:52am

re: #143 Floral Giraffe

Good night Floral!

145 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:31:29am

re: #143 Floral Giraffe

I just HATE to go to bed with REM's "it's the end of the world" in my head. But, it's past sleepy time, here.
Goodnight, Lizards, and may your tomorrow be a happy childhood!

G'Nite, Floral Giraffe!

146 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:32:08am

The “Sharing” in a MARRIAGE...

The old man placed order for one hamburger, French fries and a drink.

He unwrapped the plain hamburger and carefully cut it in half, placing one
half in front of his wife.

He then carefully counted out the French fries, dividing them into two piles
and neatly placed one pile in front of his wife.

He took a sip of the drink, his wife took a sip and then set the cup down
between them . As he began to eat his few bites of hamburger, the people
around them were looking over and whispering.

Obviously they were thinking, 'That poor old couple - all they can afford is
one meal for the two of them.'

As the man began to eat his fries a young man came to the table and politely
offered to buy another meal for the old couple. The old man said, they were
just fine - they were used to sharing everything.

People closer to the table noticed the little old lady hadn't eaten a bite.
She sat there watching her husband eat and occasionally taking turns sipping
the drink.

Again, the young man came over and begged them to let him buy another meal
for them. This time the old woman said 'No, thank you, we are used to
sharing everything.'

Finally, as the old man finished and was wiping his face neatly with the
napkin, the young man again came over to the little old lady who had yet to
eat a single bite of food and asked 'What is it you are waiting for?'

She answered...

' THE TEETH…..'

147 axegrinder  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:33:38am

re: #141 BatGuano

I grew up on Gospel music. That and Barber shop quartet music. Not too different really.

148 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:34:43am

re: #139 redc1c4

i can affor to stick one up... your guess which one. %-)

No need to guess, I was just giving you a "bonus two" 'cuz I like you.

/you've seen my avatar, right?
:)

149 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:36:14am

re: #148 Slumbering Behemoth

No need to guess, I was just giving you a "bonus two" 'cuz I like you.

/you've seen my avatar, right?
:)

no... it's fairly fuzzy.

must be a bandwidth thing. %-)

150 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:41:23am

re: #147 axegrinder

Gospel music was a big part of it. Barber shop Quartet? Only the harmonies supplied by the women folk. It was all the common peoples music.

151 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:43:43am

Morning all.

Erik one thing I never asked you did you get your nic from Erik the red the Viking explorer, Marvel Comics, or just because you happen to be a red haired erik?

152 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:44:13am

re: #147 axegrinder

I grew up on Gospel music. That and Barber shop quartet music. Not too different really.

How about choral groups?

153 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:46:44am

re: #143 Floral Giraffe

I just HATE to go to bed with REM's "it's the end of the world" in my head.

Care for a palate cleanser?

154 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:46:52am

re: #151 Rustler

Morning all.

Erik one thing I never asked you did you get your nic from Erik the red the Viking explorer, Marvel Comics, or just because you happen to be a red haired erik?

The last one unfortunately. No exotic stories :(

Had red hair as a kid. Has changed to blond as I got older. (Thank G_d)

155 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:48:59am

re: #154 Erik The Red

The last one unfortunately. No exotic stories :(

Had red hair as a kid. Has changed to blond as I got older. (Thank G_d)

I thought maybe you were the famous competitive eater.
;)

156 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:51:33am

re: #155 gmsc

I thought maybe you were the famous competitive eater.
;)

He is probably a skinny little shit. I just look like I eat competitively.

157 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:52:01am

re: #86 Floral Giraffe

I enjoy reading all of your comments. Thank you!


Thanks.

158 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:53:37am

re: #156 Erik The Red

He is probably a skinny little shit. I just look like I eat competitively.

i eat enthusiastically...

/and cook the same way. %-)

159 BignJames  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:55:04am

re: #156 Erik The Red

He is probably a skinny little shit. I just look like I eat competitively.

Cheese eating contest?

160 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:56:25am

re: #90 ArchangelMichael

True. It was more of a whimsical musing on my part to express appropriate disdain for the anti-vaccination hysteria.

If a silicone-eating virus ever appears, McCarthy will be beating her way to the front of the line with her rack to get vaccinated.

161 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:56:40am

re: #159 BignJames

Cheese eating contest?

In Vegas yesterday, we had Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Championships at the New York New York. There was even an ambulance parked on the Brooklyn Bridge out front!

Hey - how about a fruitcup eating competition?

162 axegrinder  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:57:06am

re: #152 gmsc

Pretty funny. I did sing baritone in the church youth choir for a while. Performed "The Rainbow Connection." The tenors get all the chicks. Damn that Freddie Mercury. Oh wait. He wasn't into chicks...

163 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:57:10am

re: #159 BignJames

Cheese eating contest?

LOL. Sure as long as it is not moving. BTW that was the most disgusting thing I have ever seen that is meant to be eaten. Do they still do Fear Factor? Maybe that would be a good one for the show.

164 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:57:14am

re: #155 gmsc

Wiki catalogs competitive eaters? I didn't think such a category exists but leave it to you to find it! You sir, are weird. I mean that in a good way. (note the happy face to follow). :)

165 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:57:29am

re: #156 Erik The Red

He is probably a skinny little shit. I just look like I eat competitively.

Katy Ate a Crate of Dates

Katy ate a crate of eighty
"rated Grade A" dates.
(Grade A dates are rated "Grade A"
mainly for their weights.)

Eighty dates made plates and plates
and Katy ate all eighty.
Katy met her fate that date,
and now the crate holds Katy.

166 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:58:36am

re: #165 gmsc

Katy Ate a Crate of Dates

Katy ate a crate of eighty
"rated Grade A" dates.
(Grade A dates are rated "Grade A"
mainly for their weights.)

Eighty dates made plates and plates
and Katy ate all eighty.
Katy met her fate that date,
and now the crate holds Katy.

What did she shit herself to death?

167 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 1:59:15am

re: #166 Erik The Red

What did she shit herself to death?

We prefer to think of her as "outdated".
;)

168 littleoldlady  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:00:12am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet--->
Help yourselves!

169 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:00:29am

re: #162 axegrinder

Pretty funny. I did sing baritone in the church youth choir for a while. Performed "The Rainbow Connection." The tenors get all the chicks. Damn that Freddie Mercury. Oh wait. He wasn't into chicks...

Yeah - I was kicked out of the church choir for my rendition of "Amazing Grace".

/Like it's my fault you can sing it to the theme music of "Gilligan's Island"

170 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:00:33am

re: #152 gmsc

The lead singer is very good!

171 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:00:36am

re: #160 SixDegrees

If a silicone-eating virus ever appears, McCarthy will be beating her way to the front of the line with her rack to get vaccinated.

As will Carrie Prejean, no doubt.

/even odds

172 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:00:51am

re: #168 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet--->
Help yourselves!

The fruitcup-eating competition begins now!

(Yummy!)

173 littleoldlady  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:00:57am

Driveby fruiting :-( I gotta go, already :-( :-( :-(

Good day, ALL!™

174 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:01:00am

re: #159 BignJames

Cheese eating contest?

Chinese eating contest?

175 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:01:16am

re: #173 littleoldlady

Driveby fruiting :-( I gotta go, already :-( :-( :-(

Good day, ALL!™

Take care!

176 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:01:52am

re: #168 littleoldlady

Thank you little old lady! I am actually awake at this hour.

177 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:02:02am

re: #162 axegrinder

Pretty funny. I did sing baritone in the church youth choir for a while. Performed "The Rainbow Connection." The tenors get all the chicks. Damn that Freddie Mercury. Oh wait. He wasn't into chicks...

Freddie was into everything, and vice versa...

178 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:02:21am

re: #164 BatGuano

Wiki catalogs competitive eaters? I didn't think such a category exists but leave it to you to find it! You sir, are weird. I mean that in a good way. (note the happy face to follow). :)

I've been called "weird" more times in the past 24 hours . . .


(not unearned, mind you.)

179 freetoken  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:02:57am

re: #168 littleoldlady


Fruitcup is on the buffet--->

More trustworthy than the postman!

My, you were feeling creative in the kitchen this evening, weren't you!

180 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:03:27am

re: #171 Slumbering Behemoth

As will Carrie Prejean, no doubt.

/even odds

the other topless gay marriage opponent.

181 BignJames  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:03:34am

re: #174 redc1c4

Chinese eating contest?


Ever unfold the noodles looking for the won ton?

182 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:03:45am

re: #177 redc1c4

Freddie was into everything, and vice versa...

Even tri-tip? :whimper:

183 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:03:48am

Bye, gmsc

184 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:04:45am

re: #169 gmsc

Yeah - I was kicked out of the church choir for my rendition of "Amazing Grace".

/Like it's my fault you can sing it to the theme music of "Gilligan's Island"

/And like I'm the only one who ever noticed that

185 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:04:52am

re: #182 Slumbering Behemoth

Even tri-tip? :whimper:

not sure about that, but you should probably skip the liver. %-)

186 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:04:54am

Damn facebook and the texas holdem tables allthough I'm up about 9000 chips tonight so I guess its not that bad a thing. Lost a few hands tho cause I hate shooting for gutshots when someone raises preflop.

187 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:05:14am

re: #183 BatGuano

Bye, gmsc

Are you leaving?

188 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:05:33am

re: #180 redc1c4

Yay, but his implants are not located in his chest.
/

189 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:05:52am

re: #181 BignJames

Ever unfold the noodles looking for the won ton?

it's the second ton of noodles that i take my time with.

190 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:06:19am

re: #188 Slumbering Behemoth

Yay, but his implants are not located in his chest.
/

did you see the pic?

191 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:06:43am

re: #168 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet--->
Help yourselves!


{lol} Good Morning

192 BignJames  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:06:55am

re: #190 redc1c4

did you see the pic?

nice pasties

193 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:07:48am

re: #187 gmsc

Hail no! I misread littleoldlady's post and thought it was you. I stand corrected. I was still listening to Bohemian Rhapsody that you posted.

194 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:08:17am

re: #190 redc1c4

Yup, and I say again: his implants are not located in his chest.

/check a certain lady's purse
//jokes, people

195 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:09:02am

re: #171 Slumbering Behemoth

As will Carrie Prejean, no doubt.

/even odds

Maybe they could have an oil-wrestling match to see who gets it first.

196 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:09:03am

re: #193 BatGuano

I stand corrected.

You wear orthopedic shoes?
;)

197 BignJames  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:09:26am

re: #194 Slumbering Behemoth

Yup, and I say again: his implants are not located in his chest.

/check a certain lady's purse
//jokes, people


We could get him some neuticles for Christmas.

198 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:09:52am

re: #186 Rustler

Damn facebook and the texas holdem tables allthough I'm up about 9000 chips tonight so I guess its not that bad a thing. Lost a few hands tho cause I hate shooting for gutshots when someone raises preflop.

My nic is blue. Shoot me an email and I will give you FB name.

199 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:10:14am

re: #193 BatGuano

Hail no! I misread littleoldlady's post and thought it was you. I stand corrected. I was still listening to Bohemian Rhapsody that you posted.

You might like my Bohemian Rhapsody YouTube playlist.

///

200 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:11:01am

re: #194 Slumbering Behemoth

Yup, and I say again: his implants are not located in his chest.

/check a certain lady's purse
//jokes, people

those would be removals, not implants... as for the "certain lady", she reminds be of the tall, over dressed and slightly scarey one i saw over by and in the stupormarket today...

my friend the checker said he had been in earlier this week with a different wig, etc... evidently he's still finding herself.

201 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:11:19am

re: #195 SixDegrees

Maybe they could have an oil-wrestling match to see who gets it first.

naked tag team twister!

202 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:11:21am

re: #195 SixDegrees

Maybe they could have an oil-wrestling match to see who gets it first.

I don't see what all the fuss is with this picture. I see worse stuff in a soap advert and TV.

203 Nightwatch  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:14:43am

Can I try out a bumper-sticker for May 19th?

(Only reply if u live in KALifornya)

HEY ARNOLD
ABCDE F-U

Thanks for your time...

204 axegrinder  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:15:38am

Have a good day Lizards. Time to shove off. Thanks for the BH Choral clip gsmc-I'll have to share that with some fellow Queen fans. Later.

205 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:16:55am

re: #204 axegrinder

Have a good day Lizards. Time to shove off. Thanks for the BH Choral clip gsmc-I'll have to share that with some fellow Queen fans. Later.

G'night, axe! Enjoy! Show them the other versions, too!

;)

206 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:17:08am

re: #203 Nightwatch

Can I try out a bumper-sticker for May 19th?

(Only reply if u live in KALifornya)

HEY ARNOLD
ABCDE F-U

Thanks for your time...

you lips to the voters ears...

what's funny is that the same people that killed his ideas a few years back are now pushing this bullshit.

207 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:17:18am

I have some Jesus jokes. Does anyone object, in principal? I don't think they are sacrilegious.

208 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:17:26am

re: #202 Erik The Red

I don't see what all the fuss is with this picture. I see worse stuff in a soap advert and TV.

I can only agree. The Left is trying to paint her as a hypocrite of some sort, while they themselves resort to Puritanism and virulent punishments for speech in order to attack her.

209 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:18:35am

re: #204 axegrinder

G'night Axe.

210 Nightwatch  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:18:51am

re: #206 redc1c4

evening to you sir, been a while.

211 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:19:28am

re: #207 BatGuano

I have some Jesus jokes. Does anyone object, in principal? I don't think they are sacrilegious.

Mmmm . . . sacrilicious!

212 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:19:30am

re: #207 BatGuano

I have some Jesus jokes. Does anyone object, in principal? I don't think they are sacrilegious.

how can you tell for sure that Ear Leader isn't Jesus?

Jesus could assemble a Cabinet in less than 100 days.

213 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:21:09am

re: #207 BatGuano

I have some Jesus jokes. Does anyone object, in principal? I don't think they are sacrilegious.

Go for it.

214 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:21:46am

still sticky warm for here... cats are lying in the hall to catch every breeze possible

grumpy went to bed with the fans on, which she never does.

glad i bought beer today, and that there's gas for the generator

215 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:22:19am

re: #212 redc1c4

how can you tell for sure that Ear Leader isn't Jesus?

Because Jesus was hung like this.

///

216 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:23:01am

re: #207 BatGuano

I have some Jesus jokes. Does anyone object, in principal? I don't think they are sacrilegious.

if you have to ask, the answer is likely no...

JMHOBICBW

217 redc1c4  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:23:48am

hasta, y'all...

218 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:24:02am

re: #217 redc1c4

hasta, y'all...

G'nite, Red!

219 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:24:45am

re: #217 redc1c4

By red.

220 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:25:26am

re: #207 BatGuano

I have some Jesus jokes. Does anyone object, in principal? I don't think they are sacrilegious.

May you tell them? Yes.

Can you tell them? We'll see.
;)

221 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:30:13am

re: #215 gmsc

Sacriledge incoming NSFW. Jesus Fucking Christ. or cartoonish version. Now sorry if that offends I saw the image and those were the words that popped out then saw caption was like OMG damned if it isn't.

222 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:32:54am

Night red.

223 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:34:18am

Erik sent friend request I only have Ghetto e-mail addies and they not compatible with outlook atm so used the email addy to look you up on Facebook.

224 eddiespaghetti  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:34:55am

re: #207 BatGuano

Jesus jokes r easy. That is what always irked me about Madonna making fun of Catholicism, too easy, no repercussions. Try picking on Islam Madonna, then I will be impressed.

To quote Eddie Murphy: you wanna impress me, take the wheel for a little while...

225 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:35:01am

re: #171 Slumbering Behemoth

I guess the ham-fisted, poorly articulated point I am trying to make here is that Carrie Prejean is derided as a "silicone slut" by the likes of that douche Olbermann, specifically for the opinions she has expressed (stupid as they may be), while some here find his characterization of her objectionable.

At the same time, Jenny McCarthy is also derided as a "silicone slut" by the likes of some commenters in the blogosphere for the opinions she has expressed (stupid as they may be), while somehere find that characterization not just acceptable, but laudable.

Seems a little lopsided to me.

Don't get me wrong, what Jenny promotes with her anti-vax stance is certainly more dangerous than what Carrie promotes with her anti-"gay union" stance, but it seems very hypocritical and detrimental to honest discourse to stamp one as a "silicone slut", while bitching about how some stamp the other as a "silicone slut".

But hey, this invective crap worked for the left, so let's jump on the bandwagon./

226 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:35:40am

re: #216 redc1c4
JMHOBICBW=Just my humble opinion but I could be wrong?

227 Nightwatch  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:36:58am

re: #206 redc1c4
That is because he looked sooo good with the Regan-esk power tie. Nobody thought that it was the Ken-a-dey wife-us that was his voice-box. Must have been something they sowed into his chest during the by-pass of his austrian thumper...or...

228 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:38:22am

re: #225 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm pretty sure it wasn't gay unions she came out against but rather the term marriage. Historically marriage meant something different allthough with the mess modern society has made with marriages by turning them into a joke I really wouldn't object to it being applied in other arenas like same sex unions.

229 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:39:06am

I am not going to post those jokes. I understand how some might find them offensive, although I don't. There are other things to ruminate about.

230 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:41:15am

Pam anderson thru her behavior and her well documented plastic surgury has also somewhat earned the name for herself whereas Carrie as far as I know hasn't tramped it up. I've seen racier photos in Vanity Magazine featuring Underaged Miley Cyrus than most of what has been made an issue with Carrie(from what I've seen of the Carrie photos anyway.)

231 eddiespaghetti  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:41:38am

re: #229 BatGuano

I wont be offended by your jokes, it was just a great opportunity for an eddie murphy classic and a rant against Madonna. Have at it if u want...

232 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:41:43am

re: #225 Slumbering Behemoth

I guess the ham-fisted, poorly articulated point I am trying to make here is that Carrie Prejean is derided as a "silicone slut" by the likes of that douche Olbermann, specifically for the opinions she has expressed (stupid as they may be), while some here find his characterization of her objectionable.

At the same time, Jenny McCarthy is also derided as a "silicone slut" by the likes of some commenters in the blogosphere for the opinions she has expressed (stupid as they may be), while somehere find that characterization not just acceptable, but laudable.

Seems a little lopsided to me.

Don't get me wrong, what Jenny promotes with her anti-vax stance is certainly more dangerous than what Carrie promotes with her anti-"gay union" stance, but it seems very hypocritical and detrimental to honest discourse to stamp one as a "silicone slut", while bitching about how some stamp the other as a "silicone slut".

But hey, this invective crap worked for the left, so let's jump on the bandwagon./

To be fair, I haven't seen enough of Prejean's rack to know whether they're fake or not; McCarthy, on the other hand, obviously has a Silicone Valley.

If you want to arrange a trampoline test, I'd be able to form a better opinion.

233 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:41:48am

re: #223 Rustler

Got and added as a friend.

234 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:42:59am

re: #221 Rustler
Feel free to report this if it Offends I probably shouldn't have posted it.

235 Nightwatch  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:43:22am

re: #229 BatGuano

Fire away my friend..we of the CATHOLIC faith have had to obtain ballistic thickness of skin over the last decade or so...

enough said!

236 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:44:02am

re: #229 BatGuano

I am not going to post those jokes. I understand how some might find them offensive, although I don't. There are other things to ruminate about.

That works, too.

Here's something to ponder over:

An Inconvenient Narrative

An Instapundit reader asks:

How come gas has gone up about 50 cents since January and we don’t hear the media complaining about the little people?

Just wondering…

And the Professor responds that it “Doesn’t fit the narrative.”

Well, in a sense it does: when gasoline prices were at their lowest in December, Tom Brokaw of NBC, the New York Times, and the Washington Post, the troika of east coast establishment liberalism, all called for the Office of the President Elect to raise gasoline taxes once in office. (You can see Brokaw in action about 6:30 into this edition of Silicon Graffiti.) So while they’d rather have higher gas prices benefiting the federal government’s coffers, all three news sources are perfectly OK with the average commuter (read: their customer base) getting soaked at the pump. And as candidate Obama told MSNBC last June, he’s happy with high gas prices as well as a deterrent to automobile usage (such as driving to work to help grow the economy), as long as the increase is in the form of a “gradual adjustment” to the higher prices.

Is that happening now, or is it simply the normal ebb and flow of oil prices? If it’s the former, it’s a positive development in the eyes of both the legacy media and its favorite son, and good news is no news.

237 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:44:48am

re: #232 SixDegrees
Line forms behind me for Carrie's tests as long as Pam isn't a requirement for testing Carrie as a control for the feel of silicone.

238 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:46:42am

re: #224 eddiespaghetti

Yes, Jesus jokes are easy. And I choose not to tell them. They may be offensive to some one, even though I think they are harmless. Why risk offending someone?

239 eddiespaghetti  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:47:24am

re: #238 BatGuano

indeed.

240 Nightwatch  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:50:11am

Must go,

good to read you all again.

241 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:50:44am

re: #224 eddiespaghetti

Jesus jokes r easy. That is what always irked me about Madonna making fun of Catholicism, too easy, no repercussions. Try picking on Islam Madonna, then I will be impressed.

To quote Eddie Murphy: you wanna impress me, take the wheel for a little while...

You really want to impress me? To heck with Islam jokes – make 0bama jokes!

242 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:50:58am

re: #228 Rustler

Semantics aside, I was talking about the hypocrisy of folks being angry when one female who's opinions they find agreeable is called a "silicone slut", while at the same time giving a "Hear, hear" when another woman who's opinions they find disagreeable is called "silicone slut".

Lopsided hypocrisy.
And just plain stupid.

243 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:52:27am

re: #241 gmsc

You really want to impress me? To heck with Islam jokes – make 0bama jokes!

And I'm not the only one who thinks 0bama jokes are dangerous!

244 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:52:43am

re: #240 Nightwatch

Must go,

good to read you all again.

G'Night, Nightwatch!

245 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:52:50am

re: #232 SixDegrees

To be fair, I haven't seen enough of Prejean's rack to know whether they're fake or not; McCarthy, on the other hand, obviously has a Silicone Valley.

If you want to arrange a trampoline test, I'd be able to form a better opinion.

That there is clearly misogynist baiting. You've got my attention.
/

246 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:54:51am

re: #242 Slumbering Behemoth
I disagree When I call Pam a Silicone slut it's due to her extensive plastic surgury and the way her behavior in public caused caused my perception of her to go. Carrie's insulters however are just making personal attacks on her without merit because they disagree with her opinion. If it looks acts and quacks likea duck I will call it a duck not a turkey hence Pam is a Silicone slut(i think Tommi lee even used to call her his slut) while Carrie from what I've seen of her body appears natural.

247 gmsc  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:55:19am

I'm falling asleep at this keyboard, so I guess I'd better get going.

Good night, all!

248 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:55:50am

re: #247 gmsc

I'm falling asleep at this keyboard, so I guess I'd better get going.

Good night, all!

Night gmsc

249 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:57:08am

Later, gmsc.

250 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:57:41am

re: #247 gmsc
Night Mathemagician.

251 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:58:41am

Morning Lizards!

Happy Friday!

252 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:59:27am

re: #251 rightside

Same to you.

253 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 2:59:47am

re: #251 rightside

Morning Lizards!

Happy Friday!

Morning rs.

254 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:00:22am

re: #251 rightside
Morning RS

BBIAB all headed out to do security checks.

255 eddiespaghetti  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:00:39am

re: #241 gmsc

Again, too easy. Just mess w/ the teleprompter...

No way, a gaffe from the Messiah? There are a million of them.

And I'm out, night all...

256 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:02:24am

re: #255 eddiespaghetti

Night eddie.

257 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:02:47am

re: #246 Rustler

In the context of what I have posted here so far: Who the fuck is Pam?

I have been typing about Carrie and Jenny, and the morons who think calling them disease ridden silicone sluts (HurrHurrHurr) somehow invalidates their stupid opinions.

People who resort to that brain dead, grade school crap, rather than refuting the substance of their opposition's arguments, do nothing whatsoever to further the debate.

258 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:03:20am

re: #255 eddiespaghetti

Again, too easy. Just mess w/ the teleprompter...

No way, a gaffe from the Messiah? There are a million of them.

And I'm out, night all...

Night sghette.

259 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:05:58am

re: #255 eddiespaghetti

Thanks for that. I have a co-worker who's not so much a lefty, as he is tired of the right. He believes that the one is the most eloquent speaker who ever lived. I will have him watch this, and if he still believes that, we will no longer have anything to ever speak about regarding politics again.

260 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:06:58am

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth
My bad crossed wires between Pam Anderson and Jenny Mccarthy for some reason. But the same Arguements made against Pam Anderson hold water with Jenny Mccarthy. Except the one referring to Tommy lee.

261 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:08:08am

Had to delay sec checks a bit while I wait for a custumer to vacate the lobby.

262 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:11:28am

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth
Pretty sure noone on this end believes Jenny Mccarthy being a Silicone Slut invalidates her opinion. Noone here wants to bother with explaining for the 50th time why she is wrong so we all just say why doesn't she shut her disease ridden yap already rather than give her the satisfaction of letting her air her airheaded nonsensical BS.

263 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:13:05am

And I got the last fruitcup too!

264 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:14:21am

Rustler, did you photoshop your avatar?

I often wondered what it would look like to make the cats facial color match his body, so I whipped one up real quick.

265 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:16:51am

re: #264 rightside
Found it on the net didn't have to change a thing.

266 eddiespaghetti  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:17:14am

re: #259 rightside

Ok, then one two more for your friend. Remember, 57 states, Austrian language.

Ring, Ring, clue phone. Its for U mr president...

Out for sure this time...

267 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:17:32am

ta-da!

Oh, cool!

268 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:18:05am

re: #266 eddiespaghetti

Thanks! but no youtube at work. First one is good enough!

269 BatGuano  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:21:05am

Good night, all.

270 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:25:29am

re: #269 BatGuano

Good night, all.

Night Bat. Don't fall.

271 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:26:48am

re: #260 Rustler

My point is this, Rustler. Some folks on one side have chosen to call Carrie a "stupid silicone slut" rather than address her opinions directly. This has angered many, some who have also...

...chosen to call Jenny a "stupid silicone slut" (and even throwing in the "bitch gots STDS") rather than addressing her opinions directly.

Right, Olbermann and assholes like him will likely find nasty things to say about Carrie. That's a given.

When the "Net-Olbermanns" on the right run out of "Playboy Silicone" material to slime Jenny with what will they go to next? "Hurrr, duh, her kid is an rtard, hurr, so obviously she must be stupid, urrr".

Again, in my ham-fisted way, I am saying do not attack their personal faults, refute their arguments. Talking about implants and nekkid pictures as if they were legitimate criticisms is fucking stupid.

272 TheMatrix31  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:29:37am

re: #243 gmsc

And I'm not the only one who thinks 0bama jokes are dangerous!

"If you're a comedian and you die and go to hell, Barack Obama is your president."

I'm not a comedian, and I'm not dead, but this is hell and Barack Obama is my president.

273 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:30:03am

Good morning, Lizards!

274 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:31:06am

re: #273 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

{goddess}

275 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:31:37am

re: #274 Erik The Red

{Erik the Red}

276 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:31:44am

re: #271 Slumbering Behemoth
Jenny Mccarthy's idiocy has been listened to disproven and shot down with science Behemoth you are comparing apples to apples. And as far as I know noone on hte right attacks Jenny McCarthy over her son's Autism. They attack her over the personal decisions she has made and her behavior in public which have actual bearing on her opinions. You are trying to compare ground beef with filet mignon.

277 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:32:58am
Jenny Mccarthy's idiocy has been listened to disproven and shot down with science Behemoth you are aren't comparing apples to apples.

re: #276 Rustler

278 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:35:32am

Drew Peterson's in jail--$20,000,000.00 bond.

279 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:37:15am

re: #278 MandyManners

Drew Peterson's in jail--$20,000,000.00 bond.

Morning 2M. I saw that on Fox's website earlier. They need to find something that can stick to this prick.

280 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:37:46am

re: #271 Slumbering Behemoth
You also fail in the context that Carrie was asked a loaded question during a Miss America pageant whereas Jenny has made it her business to outright lie to the American public and blame vaccinations on her sons disability despite tons of evidence to the contrary these aren't 2 similar events of vicious attacks on the person instead of their ideas.

281 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:39:41am

re: #279 Erik The Red

Morning 2M. I saw that on Fox's website earlier. They need to find something that can stick to this prick.

I'm sure they have 'cause DA's are reluctant to go forward unless they believe they can win.

282 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:43:01am

re: #273 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

283 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:44:27am

re: #282 rightside

{rightside}

284 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:48:00am

Good morning. It appears that Nancy Pelosi is lying about her knowledge of water-boarding. I am just shocked.

285 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:48:46am

re: #284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

{FBV}

286 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:51:07am

re: #276 Rustler

Jenny Mccarthy's idiocy has been listened to disproven and shot down with science Behemoth you are comparing apples to apples.

Reasonable folk have discussed the faults of her position. Unreasonable folks have decided to go with the "Durr, look at her fake, slutty titties, bet she's got an STD".

But I am comparing apples to apples when I point out that some folks who blather these idiotic, grade-school rants about Jenny sound no different than Olbermann ranting about Carrie.

And as far as I know noone on hte right attacks Jenny McCarthy over her son's Autism. They attack her over the personal decisions she has made and her behavior in public which have actual bearing on her opinions. You are trying to compare ground beef with filet mignon.

No sir, you miss my point entirely. I am not comparing Jenny to Carrie (both vapid models as far as I am concerned). What I am comparing is the disparate and hypocritical responses to their idiocy that I have seen to a very small degree here, and to a much larger degree on sites that lean towards the right.

Perfectly o.k. to call Jenny a "silicone slut" (like an Olberman type would), but dare to call Carrie the same (as Olberman has) and the same shit slingers get indignant.

Lopsided and hypocritical.

287 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:54:39am

re: #285 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, nice lady.

Mother to son..."Time to get up, honey."
Son: "But I don't feel too good."
Mom: "No, you have to go to school."
Son: "But I don't want to go to school. I hate it there."
Mom: "You still have to go."
Son: "But the students hate me! The teachers hate me! I don't want to go to school, Mom!"
Mom: "You have to go! But you are the principal!"

288 freetoken  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:56:07am
289 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:57:06am

re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LOL!

I'm so lucky I love my job.

290 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 3:59:55am

re: #278 MandyManners

Drew Peterson's in jail--$20,000,000.00 bond.

Good morning. There goes that security job at the Nevada brothel.
Wouldn't that have been hog heaven for Peterson?

291 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:01:09am

re: #280 Rustler

You also fail in the context that Carrie was asked a loaded question during a Miss America pageant whereas Jenny has made it her business to outright lie to the American public and blame vaccinations on her sons disability despite tons of evidence to the contrary these aren't 2 similar events of vicious attacks on the person instead of their ideas.

Dude, again. If you are not getting my point, I will repeat it. I AM NOT COMPARING JENNY TO CARRIE. THESE TWO WOMEN ARE NOT THE SAME, AND I HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT FROM THE VERY START.

I am talking about the hypocrisy that some show when they call Jenny a diseased ridden, silicone slut because of her stupid opinions, but then get outrageously upset when someone like Olberman says something similar about a woman like Carrie for her stupid opinions. It is hypocritical, childish, and has nothing to do with the opinions of either woman.

292 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:02:33am

re: #290 opnion

Good morning. There goes that security job at the Nevada brothel.
Wouldn't that have been hog heaven for Peterson?

Am I the only who sees a narcissist when I look at him?

293 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:03:12am

re: #286 Slumbering Behemoth

If Amy Winehouse decides to opine on Global Warming, I will not listen to her either.

294 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:03:34am

I've got to run--take care!

295 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:04:14am

re: #294 goddessoftheclassroom

Have a great day!

296 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:04:49am

re: #292 MandyManners

Am I the only who sees a narcissist when I look at him?

He seems to be a classic case. The guy has tied into a Chicago radio talk show (Mancow). He comes on regularly & gets ripped , but in his mind he must think that he comes off good.

297 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:05:19am

I bet Peterson's attorney is gonna' attack the bail as punitive.

298 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:06:00am

re: #296 opnion

He seems to be a classic case. The guy has tied into a Chicago radio talk show (Mancow). He comes on regularly & gets ripped , but in his mind he must think that he comes off good.

Haven't I seen Mancow's show on Fox before?

299 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:07:51am

It looks like Farah Faucet is losing her battle with cancer, she is down to 86 pounds. Sad.

300 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:09:09am

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth I am not the one who doesn't get it I think you are. You aren't comparing the women you are comparing the way they are refered to however one has earned the title whereas the other hasn't. Calling Carrie Prejean an Idiot because you don't agree with her opinion which was asked for on Gay marriages not Unions puts you in a similar boat to all those you are trying to call out for calling her a silicone slut. Jenny has earned the Silicone Slut name, can you say you have research Carrie Prejeans educational achievements enough to verify she is an Idiot? I can say with almost certainty you haven't. The judge who chose to ask a question on Gay marriage to a Candidate who was known to have attended a Catholic Highschool likely knew the Answer that was coming.

301 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:09:11am

re: #298 MandyManners

Haven't I seen Mancow's show on Fox before?

THey used to bring him on in the morning to do a quick remote.
His radio program is syndicated.

302 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:10:27am

I am out. See you Lizards later.

Just to clarify:

Calling Jenny McCarthy a silicone slut: Cool.

Calling Carrie Prejean a silicone slut: Not Cool.

/NOTE: Results may be reversed depending on the kind of ideologue you are

303 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:11:36am

re: #299 opnion

She showed some acting chops in "Extremities" and "The Burning Bed". Not to mention SO HAWT! Every man who was young in the 70's loves Farrah Fawcet.

304 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:11:41am

uh oh, looks like CIA records show that Pelosi & others were briefed regularly about waterboarding & other interrogation tactics.
Will she just claim faulty memory?

305 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:11:45am

Why bother working anymore? ust move to Taxachusetts, live on welfare, and get a free car to boot!

306 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:12:51am

re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She showed some acting chops in "Extremities" and "The Burning Bed". Not to mention SO HAWT! Every man who was young in the 70's loves Farrah Fawcet.

Oh yeah, Charlies Angels was silly I guess, but alll of that eye candy!

307 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:12:58am

re: #304 opnion

She doesn't have to do anything, she's the speaker, and will appoint a commission to look into it, they will, and find nothing wrong. Move along now, nothing to see here.

308 Mithrax  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:14:05am

re: #307 rightside

She doesn't have to do anything, she's the speaker, and will appoint a commission to look into it, they will, and find nothing wrong. Move along now, nothing to see here.

Oh well then! if everything is well in hand I can feel relieved! :P

309 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:14:34am

re: #308 Mithrax

More like she just relieved herself on all of us!

310 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:15:07am

Most ethical congress evah!

Indeed!

311 Mithrax  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:15:28am

re: #309 rightside

More like she just relieved herself on all of us!

Oh that's ok. Being up in canada, we know everything flows downhill eventually :P

312 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:15:42am

re: #301 opnion

How did he get his name?

313 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:16:32am

re: #307 rightside

She doesn't have to do anything, she's the speaker, and will appoint a commission to look into it, they will, and find nothing wrong. Move along now, nothing to see here.

Probably, but it is embarassing & may tamp down the issue.
Question, BHO said that our interrogation methods helped terrorist recruitment. Isn't it counter intuitive then to release photos?

314 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:17:30am

re: #312 MandyManners

How did he get his name?

I don't know, his first name is actually Erik.

315 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:20:09am

re: #313 opnion

Of course, and as well to just "release" the jihadists back into society (which they are quickly backtracking on). He pandered to the far-left in this country, promising to undo Bushco.

I will give him credit though for this.. He is realizing he cannot afford to just let those animals go free, if any of them were to kill others, no spin could protect his ass. But that's about the only thing up to this point.

316 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:21:00am

re: #311 Mithrax

Oh that's ok. Being up in canada, we know everything flows downhill eventually :P

317 Mithrax  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:22:24am

re: #316 rightside

Hey, better than being the underwear :P

318 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:24:00am

re: #317 Mithrax

ROFLCOPTER!

319 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:24:04am

re: #315 rightside

Of course, and as well to just "release" the jihadists back into society (which they are quickly backtracking on). He pandered to the far-left in this country, promising to undo Bushco.

I will give him credit though for this.. He is realizing he cannot afford to just let those animals go free, if any of them were to kill others, no spin could protect his ass. But that's about the only thing up to this point.

This seems to be a pattern with Obama, generalities without plans.
Holder goes to Europe & expects the Euros to roll over & just solve the problem & take these savages in, I guess because of BHO's fabulousness. He got slapped down pretty good.

320 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:24:22am

re: #304 opnion

uh oh, looks like CIA records show that Pelosi & others were briefed regularly about waterboarding & other interrogation tactics.
Will she just claim faulty memory?

Looks that way. "That's not her recollection," according to an aide.

When the briefing minutes are made public and show detailed, repetetive updates on methods, Pelosi will look like a total fool. It was an incredibly stupid gambit on her part to take this approach.

The Republicans ought to order T-shirts with the CIA minutes printed on them, and wear them to every session of Congress they attend. DeLay was ousted from his position for what turned out to be far less, in the end. Lying about what she knew, when, is a serious charge.

Unless she claims she slept through the meetings. Another great strategy that will be fun to watch unfold.

Maybe someone can give her a set of those sunglasses with open eyeballs painted on them

321 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:29:00am

re: #319 opnion

Did you see this Euro editorial cartoon yesterday? Looks like the honeymoon is over already.

A direct poke in the eye of FCBBHO, who now will be “just air-raiding villages and killing civilians” like he scolded Bush for back in August of '07.

What say you, barry?

322 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:30:14am

re: #320 SixDegrees

Maybe someone can give her a set of those sunglasses with open eyeballs painted on them

She already has a set.

323 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:30:45am

re: #320 SixDegrees

Not only did Pelosi lie about her knowledge of the interrogation methods, she actually tried to spin it as an issue.
This is a form of Sophistry, help create a situation & then use it against your enemies.
When these people were scared after 9/11, they did not see these tactics as over the top. What we are getting here is revisionism.

324 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:32:20am

re: #321 rightside

Did you see this Euro editorial cartoon yesterday? Looks like the honeymoon is over already.

A direct poke in the eye of FCBBHO, who now will be “just air-raiding villages and killing civilians” like he scolded Bush for back in August of '07.
"Access Denied"

What say you, barry?

325 yesandno  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:32:48am

re: #320 SixDegrees

Looks that way. "That's not her recollection," according to an aide.

When the briefing minutes are made public and show detailed, repetetive updates on methods, Pelosi will look like a total fool. It was an incredibly stupid gambit on her part to take this approach.

The Republicans ought to order T-shirts with the CIA minutes printed on them, and wear them to every session of Congress they attend. DeLay was ousted from his position for what turned out to be far less, in the end. Lying about what she knew, when, is a serious charge.

Unless she claims she slept through the meetings. Another great strategy that will be fun to watch unfold.

Maybe someone can give her a set of those sunglasses with open eyeballs painted on them

She claimed that while they explained waterboarding to her and others, they never stated explicitly that they were going to use it. Hence, they didn't notify her before actual use so she could object...they didn't seek her personal approval.

The spin cylce isn't only about the dryer...it is often about the liar.

And if she went in with her eyes closed, that would be a first.

326 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:33:21am

re: #324 opnion

Let me try again, Access is denied. What is the gist?

327 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:35:46am

re: #322 MandyManners

She already has a set.

Eeewww! Looks like something straight out of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

328 yesandno  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:35:50am

re: #322 MandyManners

She already has a set.

That made me sick...

329 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:36:42am

There was just a panel on FNC debating release of the Gitmo prisoners.
Mike Gallagher , Judith Miller & some Journalist were the panel.
The journalist claimed that the idea of giving the terrorists welfare is just a Republican boogeyman. He said that they would just get Public Assistance.
Huh?

330 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:38:53am

re: #325 yesandno

She claimed that while they explained waterboarding to her and others, they never stated explicitly that they were going to use it. Hence, they didn't notify her before actual use so she could object...they didn't seek her personal approval.

The spin cylce isn't only about the dryer...it is often about the liar.

And if she went in with her eyes closed, that would be a first.

That was her first response. These briefing minutes that have come up today show that she was briefed not once, but several times. Not certain yet if she was briefed on actual occurrences, but it's starting to sound that way. Her aides are scrambling to spin these latest revelations.

For once, the ball's in the Republican's court. They can run with this one, if they choose to.

331 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:39:42am

re: #330 SixDegrees

FUMBLE!

Carnak

332 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:40:16am

re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

FUMBLE!

Carnak


Sadly, you're probably right.

333 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:41:54am

re: #326 opnion


My mistake, see it here at Hot Air.

334 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:42:03am

re: #332 SixDegrees

Sadly, you're probably right.

Sadly, you're probably right about my being probably right.

335 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:43:49am

Behold, nancy pelosi and her sleeping glasses.

336 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:45:03am

re: #335 rightside

Behold, nancy pelosi and her sleeping glasses.

Wait - what glasses are you talking about?

337 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:46:59am

re: #330 SixDegrees

That was her first response. These briefing minutes that have come up today show that she was briefed not once, but several times. Not certain yet if she was briefed on actual occurrences, but it's starting to sound that way. Her aides are scrambling to spin these latest revelations.

For once, the ball's in the Republican's court. They can run with this one, if they choose to.

But, will they?

338 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:51:51am

re: #337 MandyManners

REPUBLICANS RESPOND!

339 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:55:55am

re: #338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I gotta run. Y'all be nice to each other.

340 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:56:01am

re: #338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

REPUBLICANS RESPOND!

At times I doubt they could be *that* effective.

341 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:56:22am

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I gotta run. Y'all be nice to each other.

No.

342 Long Nics are Looonnng  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:57:17am

re: #341 MandyManners

Well, you know what I mean.

343 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 4:59:37am

re: #333 rightside

My mistake, see it here at Hot Air.

Thanks

344 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:00:53am

Happy V-E Day, everyone. Let's go and check Google, perhaps it has noted this day with a special grpahic of some kind...nope. Gee, what a surprise.

345 doppelganglander  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:01:35am

Good morning, lizards. Have we talked about the shooting at Wesleyan University yet? I wouldn't normally mention it except for this:

Later, when police confiscated Morgan's car, they found a journal in which he spelled out a plan to rape and kill Justin-Jinich before going on a campus shooting spree, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case is under investigation.

Wesleyan officials said police told them that Morgan targeted Wesleyan students and Jews in his journals. Justin-Jinich, of Timnath, Colo., came from a Jewish family, and her grandmother was a Holocaust survivor.

346 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:02:11am

US denies Israel access to F-35 computer

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Hum? Playing hardball maybe?

347 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:03:59am

CLEVELAND – Alleged Nazi death camp guard John Demjanjuk lost his bid Thursday to get the U.S. Supreme Court to stop his deportation to Germany, where an arrest warrant accuses him of 29,000 counts of accessory to murder during World War II. The legal case spans more than three decades.

Justice John Paul Stevens denied, without comment, Demjanjuk's plea to step into his case. The 89-year-old retired autoworker lives in suburban Cleveland, and he, his family and his lawyers say he's in poor health and too frail to be sent overseas.

SNIP

348 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:04:21am

re: #342 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Have a great day!

349 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:04:52am

re: #347 MandyManners

CLEVELAND – Alleged Nazi death camp guard John Demjanjuk lost his bid Thursday to get the U.S. Supreme Court to stop his deportation to Germany, where an arrest warrant accuses him of 29,000 counts of accessory to murder during World War II. The legal case spans more than three decades.

Justice John Paul Stevens denied, without comment, Demjanjuk's plea to step into his case. The 89-year-old retired autoworker lives in suburban Cleveland, and he, his family and his lawyers say he's in poor health and too frail to be sent overseas.

SNIP

But, he still is in the country. Why?

350 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:05:25am

re: #345 doppelganglander

Good morning, lizards. Have we talked about the shooting at Wesleyan University yet? I wouldn't normally mention it except for this:

He seems to have had some particular twitch about the woman he killed. He never followed through on the rest of his rants. Crazy ex-boyfriend? Rejection spilling over onto GF's entire religion?

Seems like there aren't enough details. But it looks like the focus was this particular woman, followed by the Jews, for whatever reason, rather than the opposite.

351 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:05:36am

re: #346 Nevergiveup

US denies Israel access to F-35 computer

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Hum? Playing hardball maybe?

During the Campaign, I got the feeling that Obama is not a friend of Israel & nothing has really changed. Yet the Jewish American Community is still a strong demographic for BHO.

352 opnion  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:08:21am

See ya.

353 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:08:30am

re: #345 doppelganglander

Good morning, lizards. Have we talked about the shooting at Wesleyan University yet? I wouldn't normally mention it except for this:

I'm surprised they didn't put his background in the Navy in the lede.

354 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:09:16am

re: #351 opnion

During the Campaign, I got the feeling that Obama is not a friend of Israel & nothing has really changed. Yet the Jewish American Community is still a strong demographic for BHO.

Not the way Jews vote, they are not. I am Jewish by the way. But Jews seem to vote against their own best interests all to often.

355 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:09:32am

re: #346 Nevergiveup

US denies Israel access to F-35 computer

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Hum? Playing hardball maybe?

Denying access to the software that runs modern weapons systems is pretty common practice; we often sell the hardware, but not the brains behind it. Not sure if this is at all unusual in this particular case relative to past sales agreements.

356 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:10:50am

re: #353 MandyManners

I'm surprised they didn't put his background in the Navy in the lede.

Former Navy Man? Wonder what that means? Maybe he worked at Old Navy?

357 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:10:59am

re: #349 Nevergiveup

But, he still is in the country. Why?

Due process has yet to be exhausted?

It feels as if I grew up with the case. Heck, I did. It's been going on for 32 years.

358 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:11:38am

re: #356 Nevergiveup

Or maybe he wore Old Spice™? LOL

359 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:11:48am

re: #355 SixDegrees

Denying access to the software that runs modern weapons systems is pretty common practice; we often sell the hardware, but not the brains behind it. Not sure if this is at all unusual in this particular case relative to past sales agreements.

I think there is more than meets the eye here.

360 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:13:19am

re: #350 SixDegrees

He seems to have had some particular twitch about the woman he killed. He never followed through on the rest of his rants. Crazy ex-boyfriend? Rejection spilling over onto GF's entire religion?

Seems like there aren't enough details. But it looks like the focus was this particular woman, followed by the Jews, for whatever reason, rather than the opposite.

Authorities in New York said Morgan and Justin-Jinich have known each other since at least 2007, when Justin-Jinich filed a harassment complaint against him while they were enrolled in a summer class at New York University. In the complaint filed in July of that year, Justin-Jinich said Morgan called her repeatedly and sent her insulting e-mails.

One of the e-mails warned: "You're going to have a lot more problems down the road if you can't take any (expletive) criticism, Johanna."

Both were interviewed by university police, but Justin-Jinich decided not to press charges.

Maybe she should have pressed charges.

361 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:14:16am

re: #356 Nevergiveup

Former Navy Man? Wonder what that means? Maybe he worked at Old Navy?

I guess that was the best the reporter could do with limited information.

362 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:17:22am

re: #327 SixDegrees

I was thinking Total Recall when they lose atmosphere on Mars.


Sorry for delay hit new comments instead of post as i got up for a few minutes to attend to guests.

363 Irish Rose  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:18:00am

Good morning lizards, a foggy but pleasant morning here along the Lake Michigan shoreline and I'm in geek heaven... "Star Trek" opens today!

Looks to be a real winner, it's already generating some kick-ass reviews.

I'm a lifelong trekker, having watched the premier episode of the original series when it aired and the first run of every single original episode. I followed the franchise through the years and never missed a single film, or a single episode from any of the series. I saw all of them, first run.

I'm the proud owner of all of the feature films on DVD and I own the complete series episodes for TOS, DS9, Next Gen, Voyager, and Enterprise. They are my precious.

I'm totally stoked at the re-introduction of the franchise to a modern audience... it looks just awesome.

364 doppelganglander  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:18:42am

re: #360 MandyManners

Maybe she should have pressed charges.

I've come to believe one should always press charges.

365 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:20:00am

re: #363 Irish Rose

Morning,

but Shatner=best Kirk evah!=Mancrush

366 Spiritualized  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:20:05am

Want to be [more] depressed?

Steyn: Israel Today, the West Tomorrow

Fashions change. But the new Judenhass is not a fashion, simply a stark reality that will metastasize in the years ahead and leave Israel isolated in the international "community" in ways that will make the first decade of this century seem like the good old days.

(...)

To which there are many Israelis who would brusquely reply: So what? Pity the poor Jew who has ever relied on European "friends." Yet there is a difference of scale between the well-established faculty-lounge disdain for "Israeli apartheid" and a mass psychosis so universal it's part of the air you breathe.

(...)

So it will go. British, European, and even American troops will withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan, and a bomb will go off in Madrid or Hamburg or Manchester, and there will be nothing left to blame except Israeli "disproportion." For the remnants of European Jewry, the already discernible migration of French Jews to Quebec, Florida, and elsewhere will accelerate. There are about 150,000 Jews in London today—it's the thirteenth biggest Jewish city in the world. But there are approximately one million Muslims. The highest number of Jews is found in the 50-54 age group; the highest number of Muslims are found in the four-years-and-under category.

(...)

You would think the deluded multi-culti progressives would understand: In the end, this isn't about Gaza, this isn't about the Middle East; it's about them. It may be some consolation to an ever-lonelier Israel that, in one of history's bleaker jests, in the coming Europe the Europeans will be the new Jews.

367 doppelganglander  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:20:09am

re: #363 Irish Rose

You are indeed hardcore. I hope you won't be disappointed.

368 Irish Rose  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:20:50am

re: #365 rightside

Morning,

but Shatner=best Kirk evah!=Mancrush

He sure was.

369 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:22:52am

re: #335 rightside
Is it sad that the photo of her real eyes looks faker than the falseys?

370 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:23:56am

re: #369 Rustler

Indeed. There are so many things I could photoshop her as, but I wanted to throw that together real quick.

371 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:24:22am

re: #363 Irish Rose

I'm the proud owner of all of the feature films on DVD and I own the complete series episodes for TOS, DS9, Next Gen, Voyager, and Enterprise. They are my precious.

My stars! You *are* a hard-core trekker. That's quite a bit of money you've invested in them. I bet you never have a boring day.

372 Irish Rose  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:24:56am

re: #367 doppelganglander

You are indeed hardcore. I hope you won't be disappointed.

I don't think I will be.

My Marine son is almost as much of a Trek geek as his mum, maybe even more so. I get to see it first though, since he lives on the West coast I'm on Eastern time ;).

373 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:25:36am

re: #358 rightside

Or maybe he wore Old Spice™? LOL

God, anytime I hear someone say Old Spice, I see Danny Noonan at the yacht club...

374 Spare O'Lake  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:25:46am

Oodgay Orningmay GFLay
(Igpay Uflay Ingolay)

375 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:25:53am

re: #372 Irish Rose

LOL, call him on an anonymous phone right after and blurt out spoilers!

376 [deleted]  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:25:57am
377 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:26:04am

re: #372 Irish Rose
Didn't some venues open last night tho? Maybe just for a midnight run tho.

378 Irish Rose  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:26:12am

re: #371 MandyManners

My stars! You *are* a hard-core trekker. That's quite a bit of money you've invested in them. I bet you never have a boring day.

I've had to sell a lot of my stuff over the last few years to get the bills paid, but my Trek collection remains untouched. I'm passing it down to my grandkids when they're old enough to appreciate it.

379 quickjustice  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:26:22am

I went to a non-mandatory lecture last night. The 20-year-old sitting next to me spent the lecture checking her e-mail, falling asleep, and text messaging. One wonders why she bothered to attend. Do all 20 year olds have such short attention spans?

380 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:26:29am

re: #364 doppelganglander

I've come to believe one should always press charges.

Did she take this beyond the university police? From what I've seen over the years, they're not always the best advocates for victims of stalking. Did the university have an office for victim advocacy?

381 Ojoe  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:27:50am
382 [deleted]  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:28:59am
383 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:29:37am

re: #378 Irish Rose

I've had to sell a lot of my stuff over the last few years to get the bills paid, but my Trek collection remains untouched. I'm passing it down to my grandkids when they're old enough to appreciate it.

Do you have it insured over and beyond normal home-owner's insurance?

384 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:30:05am

re: #382 buzzsawmonkey

Ah, the irony. Took the starch right out of her sails.

385 Spare O'Lake  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:31:09am

Otgay otay aketay ethay ogday otay ethay etvay.
Aterlay.

386 freetoken  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:31:15am

re: #382 buzzsawmonkey

re: #384 rightside

groan...

387 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:31:21am

re: #379 quickjustice

I went to a non-mandatory lecture last night. The 20-year-old sitting next to me spent the lecture checking her e-mail, falling asleep, and text messaging. One wonders why she bothered to attend. Do all 20 year olds have such short attention spans?

That is incredibly rude!

388 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:31:57am

re: #380 MandyManners I believe after talking to campus police she determined futher escalation was unwarranted. I don't think there was even a Campus escalation of the events after both statements were recieved. One would hope her parents at least would try to get the documentation from the incidents in '07 to verify everything that should have been done at that time was done. All though if he was sending Threatening Emails all necessary escalations likely weren't completed as FBI should investigate and threats over the net.

389 Irish Rose  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:32:45am

re: #383 MandyManners

Do you have it insured over and beyond normal home-owner's insurance?

Yep.

390 Mithrax  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:33:15am

re: #378 Irish Rose

From all my friends that saw it last night ALL are raving about it.

391 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:33:46am

re: #376 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

All of the current leaders and former leaders of the Democrat Party
are 100% no good f'n liars.

Nancy Pelosi has found her niche as a leader.

Lie leader of all time.

Seems as though todays politicians make crack whores and drug dealers look like better people.

like that

392 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:33:46am

WTF is wrong with TVLAND? The Kid has a three-day weekend so I'm free to watch television this morning, and all TVLAND has is infomercial after infomercial.

393 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:34:56am

re: #362 Rustler

I was thinking Total Recall when they lose atmosphere on Mars.

Sorry for delay hit new comments instead of post as i got up for a few minutes to attend to guests.

Brother have you seen my wife ?

394 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:35:10am

re: #388 Rustler

I believe after talking to campus police she determined futher escalation was unwarranted. I don't think there was even a Campus escalation of the events after both statements were recieved. One would hope her parents at least would try to get the documentation from the incidents in '07 to verify everything that should have been done at that time was done. All though if he was sending Threatening Emails all necessary escalations likely weren't completed as FBI should investigate and threats over the net.

Wouldn't it be a huge burden for the FBI to investigate *every* such case?

395 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:36:44am

Good morning lizards!

Now that I am rid of dial up I can watch stuff like this:

Counter Battery Fire from the Enemies Perspective


This video was captured from an insurgent. It shows how we fire artillery on a rockets nest they used to attack an army base.
396 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:37:11am

re: #389 Irish Rose

I can just see some claim adjustor refusing to pay you for them if you hadn't.

397 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:37:30am

re: #44 gmsc

Today in History

1984 – The Soviet Union announces that it will boycott the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles, California.

1988 – A fire at Illinois Bell's Hinsdale Central Office triggers an extended 1AESS network outage once considered the 'worst telecommunications disaster in US telephone industry history' is still the worst to occur on Mother's Day.

1984 - McDonalds is running a promotion that gives out free food for every US medal won. The boycott by the eastern block gives the US a virtual lock on the medals and young DaddyG eats free all summer.

1988 - Newly married DaddyG is living in downstate Illinois and cannot call his mother on mothers day or for a month afterwards. Grandma is not happy (should have written).

398 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:37:33am

re: #375 rightside

LOL, call him on an anonymous phone right after and blurt out spoilers!

Wouldn't that be a good use of a tweet or twitter or whatever you call it.

399 [deleted]  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:37:36am
400 Irish Rose  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:37:40am

A love for the franchise runs in the family. My dad was actually the one who started my collection before he passed away, he was a huge Trek fan. So was my mom, who added to my collection for a long time before she got sick and eventually passed away.

I just recently bought the remastered set of original episodes to add to the collection, and they're absolutely stunning.

401 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:39:41am

re: #399 taxfreekiller

California is the back ground noise of the Democrat leadership, the noise you hear is the glug, glug, glug of a sinking ship, now Democrat over spending has reached the national level.

Yesterday the Treasury Auction did not have enough of us evil capitalist bidding due to the fact we do not trust the no good liar Democrats to pay us per the contract as their current leader Pres. Obama sees fit to void contracts he does not think help his commie union buddies vote block.

facts count up

And that is what will come back and bite 0bama and the overreaching Dems right in the ass.

402 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:41:07am

re: #394 MandyManners Yeah should have said credible threat. But maybe the other emails are just like the one in the Article where he says things will get worse if she can't take any {expletive} criticism. Which wouldn't really be a credible threat just good advice.

403 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:41:38am

re: #395 njdhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

Now that I am rid of dial up I can watch stuff like this:

Counter Battery Fire from the Enemies Perspective

Wow! That's loud.

404 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:41:40am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

A loverly day in the valley and the weekend is upon us.

Yee-hawww! :D

Can't find a link but I heard on the radio this morning that the World Health Organization is fretting about the possibility of the H1N1 swine flu mixing with the H5N1 bird flu to create a virus that would be highly infectious & potentially lethal. Seriously.

Flying Pig Flu?

*thump*

405 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:41:44am

Headed out all to run a few errands around the Lobby before relief gets here be safe and stay scaly.

406 freetoken  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:42:15am

Employers Cut 539,000 Jobs in April, Jobless Rate at 8.9%

U.S. employers cut a smaller-than-expected 539,000 jobs in April, the smallest amount since October, according to government data on Friday that hinted at some improvement in the labor market and the recession-hit economy. [...]

Employment is a trailing indicator of economic health. Fortunately there are (small) signs elsewhere that the contraction of the economy is coming to an end.

407 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:42:51am

re: #404 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

A loverly day in the valley and the weekend is upon us.

Yee-hawww! :D

Can't find a link but I heard on the radio this morning that the World Health Organization is fretting about the possibility of the H1N1 swine flu mixing with the H5N1 bird flu to create a virus that would be highly infectious & potentially lethal. Seriously.

Flying Pig Flu?

*thump*


They didn't get the desired panic level over the H1N1 so they have to try tactic #2.

408 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:43:28am

re: #395 njdhockeyfan
Will have to watch it at home in 4.1 hehe.

409 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:45:51am

re: #402 Rustler

Yeah should have said credible threat. But maybe the other emails are just like the one in the Article where he says things will get worse if she can't take any {expletive} criticism. Which wouldn't really be a credible threat just good advice.

Depending on the context of their relationship, I can see such an e-mail being taken as a threat. It could read: Don't get upset at my verbal abuse or I'll really fuck you up.

410 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:47:50am

re: #404 Miss Trixie
The H1n1 outta mexico is Already an avian flu which jumped to pigs before jumping back to people. More mass hysteria from the media. A look at there webpage had no warning upfront like would be there if it was actually something believed. Here is the Updates on Swine Flu from WHO.

411 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:48:21am

re: #395 njdhockeyfan

Sweet! Always a treat for a Friday morning.

412 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:48:35am

re: #407 soxfan4life

They didn't get the desired panic level over the H1N1 so they have to try tactic #2.

Yup. Means more money for their budgets from Governments around the world. I'm tired of these daily scare tactics and the MSM is along hand-in-glove.

Where was all the outrage and concern when over 30,000 North Americans died from the regular flu bug last year? Not a bloody peep.

413 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:49:08am

re: #409 MandyManners

True but it all depends on the actual verbage of the E-mail which we aren't likely to see. If what was posted in the article was the extent of it it looks like advice rather than a threat.

414 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:50:25am

re: #410 Rustler

The H1n1 outta mexico is Already an avian flu which jumped to pigs before jumping back to people. More mass hysteria from the media. A look at there webpage had no warning upfront like would be there if it was actually something believed. Here is the Updates on Swine Flu from WHO.

Color me cynical but WHO is just another suspect organization that I no longer trust.

415 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:52:09am

re: #413 Rustler

True but it all depends on the actual verbage of the E-mail which we aren't likely to see. If what was posted in the article was the extent of it it looks like advice rather than a threat.

Again, it depends on the context of the relationship and what lead up to that e-mail. For example, if the killer had tried to hook up with her and she rebuffed him, he could have called her stuck up or snooty. She denied the accusation but, he tried to press it 'cause his widdle ego got hurt.

416 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:53:38am

re: #379 quickjustice

I went to a non-mandatory lecture last night. The 20-year-old sitting next to me spent the lecture checking her e-mail, falling asleep, and text messaging. One wonders why she bothered to attend. Do all 20 year olds have such short attention spans?

Yes. I blame Sesame Street and Video Games.

417 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:54:13am

Morning all.

418 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:55:24am

re: #412 Miss Trixie
H1N1 is one of the Normal flu bugs. This is just a particular strain of that virus with small mods because of Isolation from humans for an extended period of time. there are numerous Flu bugs none of which are actually new. The H portion of the viruses name is for the Protien Hematoglobullin?(spelling) and the N is for Nueradinimase(spelling again) there are 19 different H strains and 9 N strains that can be combined in many ways yielding hundreds of possible flu combinations.

419 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:55:26am

MINEOLA, N.Y. – Wal-Mart agreed Wednesday to pay nearly $2 million and improve safety at its 92 New York stores as part of a deal with prosecutors that avoids criminal charges in the trampling death of a temporary worker last year.

Nassau County District Attorney Kathleen Rice said that if she had brought criminal charges against the retailer in the worker's death, the company would have been subject to only a $10,000 fine if convicted. Rice declined to say what charges were considered against Wal-Mart, citing the secrecy of grand jury proceedings.

Instead, she said, the company has agreed to implement an improved crowd-management plan for post-Thanksgiving Day sales, set up a $400,000 victims' compensation and remuneration fund, and give $1.5 million to Nassau County social services programs and nonprofit groups.

The agreement included no admission of guilt by Wal-Mart.

"Rather than bringing the world's largest retailer to court and imposing a small fine against them, I felt it was important to require significant safety changes that will affect the whole state," Rice said. "Our goal is for the protocols that are set up to be the gold standard for crowd management in this industry."

SNIP

"The crowd management plan we are announcing today was developed by a team of experts whose experience includes NFL Super Bowls, Olympic games, concerts and national political conventions," Wal-Mart vice president Hank Mullany said.

SNIP

The bolded phrase sounds a bit like extortion.

420 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:55:43am

re: #416 DaddyG

Yes. I blame Sesame Street and Video Games.

Brought to you by the letter Zzzz.

421 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:56:21am
422 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:56:52am

You're a smart cookie, Rustler. :)

423 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:56:53am

re: #412 Miss Trixie

Yup. Means more money for their budgets from Governments around the world. I'm tired of these daily scare tactics and the MSM is along hand-in-glove.

Where was all the outrage and concern when over 30,000 North Americans died from the regular flu bug last year? Not a bloody peep.


The $1.5 billion 0bama asked to track the swine flu will be a paltry sum compared to what he wants for this one. And the media just keeps buying into it, yet we are the "uneducated ones" right?

424 Rustler  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:57:36am

re: #422 Miss Trixie
MMM cookies gimme.

I'm really out now be safe.

426 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:58:29am

FYI, from Long War Journal yesterday, the government MIGHT be sending the regular Army into the fighting in Swat. The article doesn't have many specifics. If so (the regular Army) this could get interesting, and perhaps not in a good way.

The Frontier Corps isn't equipped to handle the Taliban and al Qaida's Shadow Army.

The regular Army contains a high proportion of Pathans (Pashtuns), and some, perhaps many, are sympathetic to the extreme fundamentalism followed by the Taliban.

How will the Army react to the Taliban rejecting the Malakand Accord, which gave a third of the Northwest Frontier Province to the Sharia-philes?

It's a wrinkle which merits watching.

/watching very carefully

427 Irish Rose  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:58:43am

re: #419 MandyManners

MINEOLA, N.Y. – Wal-Mart agreed Wednesday to pay nearly $2 million and improve safety at its 92 New York stores as part of a deal with prosecutors that avoids criminal charges in the trampling death of a temporary worker last year.

SNIP

The bolded phrase sounds a bit like extortion.

What the hell do "Nassau County social services programs and nonprofit groups" have to do with what happened?

429 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 5:59:54am

re: #419 MandyManners

Far be it from me to defend wal-mart,but why are they being held responable for a mob behaveing like a mob?because they had a sale?
It's sad that the district atty' believes that her constituants need to be herded like cattle.(as opposed to behaveing like human beings.)

430 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:00:52am

re: #423 soxfan4life

The $1.5 billion 0bama asked to track the swine flu will be a paltry sum compared to what he wants for this one. And the media just keeps buying into it, yet we are the "uneducated ones" right?

*snort*

431 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:00:55am

re: #427 Irish Rose

What the hell do "Nassau County social services programs and nonprofit groups" have to do with what happened?


Question 2: why are they getting $1.5 million, while the victim's estate is only getting $400,000?

432 Irish Rose  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:01:40am

You're right Mandy, that case smells to high heaven.

433 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:07:11am

re: #431 SixDegrees

Question 2: why are they getting $1.5 million, while the victim's estate is only getting $400,000?

That $400,000 is also for the 11 people injured including a pregnant woman. My guess is the bulk of that money will be paying for medical care for her or the baby because there will be some reason she won't be able to return to work.

434 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:07:40am

re: #401 soxfan4life

re: #399 taxfreekiller

California is the back ground noise of the Democrat leadership, the noise you hear is the glug, glug, glug of a sinking ship, now Democrat over spending has reached the national level.

Yesterday the Treasury Auction did not have enough of us evil capitalist bidding due to the fact we do not trust the no good liar Democrats to pay us per the contract as their current leader Pres. Obama sees fit to void contracts he does not think help his commie union buddies vote block.

facts count up

And that is what will come back and bite 0bama and the overreaching Dems right in the ass.

Unfortunately, it's going to bite all of us in the ass when they fire up the printing presses to make more paper money.

435 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:07:54am

I think that the willingness of Wal*Mart to go to such lengths when the potential fine was just $10,000.00 might show that the company knew it had a PR disaster on its hands. Right or wrong, appearances matter.

437 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:09:50am

re: #392 MandyManners

WTF is wrong with TVLAND? The Kid has a three-day weekend so I'm free to watch television this morning, and all TVLAND has is infomercial after infomercial.

Unfortunately, the infomercial is more probably lucrative than running Hogan's Heroes...

438 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:11:05am

re: #435 MandyManners

I think that the willingness of Wal*Mart to go to such lengths when the potential fine was just $10,000.00 might show that the company knew it had a PR disaster on its hands. Right or wrong, appearances matter.


And what is $2 million to Wal-Mart? They would have paid almost as much in legal fees just to pay the $10,000 fine.

439 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:11:34am

re: #435 MandyManners
exactly right,large corp.abhor the idea of any contovercy(whether they are right or wrong...)

440 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:12:16am

re: #436 Ward Cleaver

Sounds like ACORN to me.

GMTA!

441 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:12:44am

re: #419 MandyManners

The bolded phrase sounds a bit like extortion.

That does seem to be what prosecutors go for these days. How many convictions did Spitzer get?

The appearance of guilt has become actual guilt. Not good.

442 Walter L. Newton  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:17:00am

He's taking control...

U.S. threatens to rescind stimulus money over wage cuts

"Reporting from Sacramento -- The Obama administration is threatening to rescind billions of dollars in federal stimulus money if Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state lawmakers do not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers approved in February as part of the budget."

Notice the headline "US" as if it were some separate entity.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

443 Taqyia2Me  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:18:12am

re: #441 Leonidas Hoplite

That does seem to be what prosecutors go for these days. How many convictions did Spitzer get?

The appearance of guilt has become actual guilt. Not good.

Yep, Spitzer pretty much ran Greenburg out of AIG and we all know the rest of that story, to-date anyways...

444 Irish Rose  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:20:29am

Well lizards, I have a morning appointment and a busy day ahead of me so I'm off for a while.

Have a great AM everyone!

445 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:21:35am

re: #442 Walter L. Newton


Tell me again why all of these governors shouldn't tell him to shove his stimulus money straight up his ass. Apparently the whole states rights clause of the Constitution flew right by this Harvard educated idiot.

446 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:21:52am

re: #442 Walter L. Newton
fiscal responability!change!
Wonder if Ahnolds political affiliation,or his floating the idea of legalising marijuana(yesterday )had anything to do with this...

447 MandyManners  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:22:54am

The neighborhood is having an all-day party so I'll be in and out today. For now, I'm out.

Have a great morning, Lizards!

448 quickjustice  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:24:17am

re: #442 Walter L. Newton

This use of federal money to mandate state policies is a longstanding complaint of state governments about federal financial aid. Richard Nixon implemented block grants of federal money to the states to remove the strings that were too often attached. What's unusual about this particular demand by Obama is that it's personal, and is designed to protect a special interest favored by his Administration, the Service Employees International Union (SEIU). That's a radical change in kind, not just in degree.

This Administration's shrill and threatening defense of labor union interests is extraordinary. Chicago street thug intimidation tactics (do as we say, or we'll break your legs) have arrived at the White House.

449 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:24:17am

Soldiers Hike Through Marijuana Field

Soldiers find another huge marijuana field in Jalhalabad, Afghanistan. These guys are having a bit too much fun.
450 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:25:07am

Good morning Lizards, it's Friday!

451 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:25:47am

re: #445 soxfan4life
Fed funding has traditionally been the club used to coerce the states to do as the feds warrant...highway funding and all that.most of the troublesom states recieve much more in fed.funding than what they pay,usually leaving them with no real choice but to cave-in,or pass ridiculous tax hikes .

452 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:26:58am

re: #445 soxfan4life

Tell me again why all of these governors shouldn't tell him to shove his stimulus money straight up his ass. Apparently the whole states rights clause of the Constitution flew right by this Harvard educated idiot.

If there aren't any specific requirements regarding this in the stimulus bill, Arnold's in a good position to fight back. You can't keep changing the rules after the fact; both parties are bound by them.

Unfortunately, I don't know the details well enough to make a call either way. But my guess is that this is going to fall in the "ex post facto" category.

Not to mention that threatening to bankrupt a state during times of economic distress if they don't spend profligately enough to keep their unions happy seems like a non-starter.

453 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:27:06am

re: #450 pingjockey

Good morning Lizards, it's Friday!

When you're on call 24/7, days of the week don't matter, but I do understand the sentiment.

454 Golem Akbar  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:27:28am

Greetings (live long and prosper!) from L.A. And no, I haven't seen the latest Star Trek flick yet, but I do intend to.

455 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:28:05am

re: #453 MrSilverDragon

Yep. Me too. But it is Friday, which is better than Monday!

456 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:28:37am

re: #448 quickjustice

This use of federal money to mandate state policies is a longstanding complaint of state governments about federal financial aid. Richard Nixon implemented block grants of federal money to the states to remove the strings that were too often attached. What's unusual about this particular demand by Obama is that it's personal, and is designed to protect a special interest favored by his Administration, the Service Employees International Union (SEIU). That's a radical change in kind, not just in degree.

This Administration's shrill and threatening defense of labor union interests is extraordinary. Chicago street thug intimidation tactics (do as we say, or we'll break your legs) have arrived at the White House.

Typically, though, such requirements are inserted into bills prior to their passage - not after the fact, which seems to be what's attempted here. I could certainly be wrong about that, but if there were a clause in the bill specifically forbidding, say, state payroll cuts, there simply wouldn't be an argument to begin with.

457 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:29:19am

This is a must read.

Obama and the 9/11 Families; The president isn’t sincere about ’swift and certain’ justice for terrorists

In February I was among a group of USS Cole and 9/11 victims’ families who met with the president at the White House to discuss his policies regarding Guantanamo detainees. Although many of us strongly opposed Barack Obama’s decision to close the detention center and suspend all military commissions, the families of the 17 sailors killed in the 2000 attack in Yemen were particularly outraged.

Over the years, the Cole families have seen justice abandoned by the Clinton administration and overshadowed by the need of the Bush administration to gather intelligence after 9/11. They have watched in frustration as the president of Yemen refused extradition for the Cole bombers.

Now, after more than eight years of waiting, Mr. Obama was stopping the trial of Abu Rahim al-Nashiri, the only individual to be held accountable for the bombing in a U.S. court. Patience finally gave out. The families were giving angry interviews, slamming the new president just days after he was sworn in.

Read the whole thing.

458 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:30:13am

re: #452 SixDegrees

If Arnold had the balls he should tell 0bama, it's either spend it on the unions or spend it on the illegals. Being that you like to dictate the terms you choose.

459 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:30:20am

Some dude from the Catholic League and some pro abortion dude slapping each other on FNC. Oh, the pro abortion guy ...death penalty evil, abortion good.

460 Golem Akbar  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:30:59am
461 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:31:34am

re: #457 njdhockeyfan

If I read the whole thing my bp will go through the roof!

462 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:31:43am

re: #459 pingjockey

innocent baby versus convicted murderer, who wouldn't make that choice.///

463 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:32:15am

re: #460 Golem Akbar

48 degrees is too cold!

464 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:33:00am

re: #462 soxfan4life

How does the Red Sox nation fel about Mannys suspension?

465 Golem Akbar  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:33:14am

re: #463 pingjockey

48 degrees is too cold!

Now. But later today it'll be in the 90's. That's LA in May.

466 quickjustice  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:33:39am

re: #456 SixDegrees

Good points, which also make my point: these White House threats don't originate with the Congress, and aren't enacted into any legislation. That's extraordinary. If they were about state refusal to comply with federal spending requirements enacted into legislation, the dialogue would between the state agency of appropriate jurisdcition and the federal agency dispensing the money.

The White House has deliberately chosen to get directly into Arnold's face. If he fights back, he'll become an immediate national hero. I don't predict that will happen.

467 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:33:56am

re: #465 Golem Akbar

NO! 48 in the water!

468 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:34:13am

re: #459 pingjockey

Some dude from the Catholic League and some pro abortion dude slapping each other on FNC. Oh, the pro abortion guy ...death penalty evil, abortion good.

apparently it's all in the timing...

469 Golem Akbar  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:34:19am

re: #464 pingjockey

How does the Red Sox nation fel about Mannys suspension?


How do us Dodger (ex-) fans feel?

470 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:34:52am

re: #458 soxfan4life

If Arnold had the balls he should tell 0bama, it's either spend it on the unions or spend it on the illegals. Being that you like to dictate the terms you choose.

It will be interesting to watch this play out. I wonder if Obama would seriously consider driving California into bankruptcy over not getting his way? The blowback, from an electoral-vote heavy state that also contributes vast sums in tax money to Federal coffers, might be more than 0 bargained for.

471 Golem Akbar  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:34:53am

re: #467 pingjockey

NO! 48 in the water!


/You see, if you pee in your wet suit...

472 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:35:00am

re: #468 Boondock St. Bender

It's about the one speaking at Notre Dames commencement ceremonies.

473 johnnyreb  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:35:26am

re: #466 quickjustice

Apparently the White House has decided to get in anyones face that doesn't do exactly what Obama wants them to do. I just can't believe the MSM isn't pounding no him daily for doing it. By not calling him on the carpet, they are IMO complicit in the bullying.

474 quickjustice  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:35:35am

re: #470 SixDegrees

At this point, I don't think Arnold has the guts.

475 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:35:56am

re: #469 Golem Akbar

Maybe the front office knew something, the way they drew out the negotiations?

476 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:36:41am

re: #464 pingjockey

I, for one, am wicked disappointed. When A-Rod went down in the steroid scandal I was bummed that the best opportunity to replace Bonds as home run king would also be tainted.
Now I'm bummed that one of my favorite hitters of all time is going to be lumped in with some of my least favorites (Sosa, Palmeiro, etc.).
It sucks.

477 MJ  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:36:41am

How do you spell liar:

Memo Says Pelosi Knew About Use of Harsh Tactics

Intelligence officials released documents yesterday saying that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was briefed in September 2002 about the use of harsh interrogation tactics against al-Qaeda suspects, seeming to contradict her repeated statements that she was never told the techniques were actually being used.

In a 10-page memo outlining an almost seven-year history of classified briefings, intelligence officials said that Pelosi and then-Rep. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) were the first two members of Congress briefed on the tactics. Then the ranking member and chairman of the House intelligence committee, respectively, Pelosi and Goss were briefed Sept. 4, 2002, one week before the anniversary of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

The memo, issued to Capitol Hill by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Central Intelligence Agency, notes that the Pelosi-Goss briefing covered "EITs including the use of EITs" on Abu Zubaida. EIT is an acronym for enhanced interrogation technique, and Abu Zubaida, whose real name is Zayn al-Abidin Muhammed Hussein, was one of the earliest valuable al-Qaeda members captured. He also was the first to have the controversial tactic of simulated drowning, or waterboarding, used against him. ..

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

478 KenJen  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:36:44am

re: #442 Walter L. Newton

He's taking control...

U.S. threatens to rescind stimulus money over wage cuts

"Reporting from Sacramento -- The Obama administration is threatening to rescind billions of dollars in federal stimulus money if Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state lawmakers do not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers approved in February as part of the budget."

Notice the headline "US" as if it were some separate entity.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

They use "U.S." when the following word is "threatens" and the target is Americans. It should have read the "Obama Admin" threatens.. ..You will only see "Obama threatens" in the headlines when they refer to say North Korea or Iran.

479 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:37:09am

re: #471 Golem Akbar

Heh! I'm up here in the Cascade Mtns and the rafters have started up. This is snow runoff, so 3 days ago this water was snow! It is bloody cold!

480 UFO TOFU  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:37:26am

re: #465 Golem Akbar

It's supposed to be a great weekend!

481 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:37:31am

re: #466 quickjustice

Good points, which also make my point: these White House threats don't originate with the Congress, and aren't enacted into any legislation. That's extraordinary. If they were about state refusal to comply with federal spending requirements enacted into legislation, the dialogue would between the state agency of appropriate jurisdcition and the federal agency dispensing the money.

The White House has deliberately chosen to get directly into Arnold's face. If he fights back, he'll become an immediate national hero. I don't predict that will happen.


Agree. If Arnold tells him to shove it and takes him to court, I suspect he'll prevail. Might take a while, though. Piggybacked with the emerging yak about over-the-top bullying of bondholders during the Chrysler hearings, it's a story that just might grow some legs.

482 quickjustice  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:37:57am

re: #473 johnnyreb

Bullying and thuggery from the White House. Special favors to Obama's crony capitalist buddies on Wall Street. Eventually, people will grow weary of it. I'm weary already.

483 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:38:05am

re: #464 pingjockey

How does the Red Sox nation fel about Mannys suspension?

Manny's a great hitter, no doubts there. Personally I'm happy with Jason Bay.

484 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:38:13am

re: #464 pingjockey

How does the Red Sox nation fel about Mannys suspension?

I didn't see the pregame last night, but I am not really surprised. Sad but not surprised. I think it should show how rampant it is in pro sports. I did hear a report that he was tested and results negative 15 times while with the Sox, so it shouldn't mar their Series victories. I don't know if he was trying to recover from an injury or was just coming off of a regular roid cycle. It is interesting that he didn't test positive, rather he had a high testosterone count and they followed the paper trail. I think this method will catch more users than testing positive.

485 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:38:27am

re: #476 Lincolntf

MLB dicked around with this PED problem too long, now this is going to taint everyone who has played for the last 15 years.

486 Golem Akbar  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:38:28am

re: #475 pingjockey

Maybe the front office knew something, the way they drew out the negotiations?


Believe me, there are a lot of disgruntled Dodger fans, right now. [Of course they were just gruntled, before?] I had plans to see a lot of Dodger games, this season, and I'm glad I didn't pre-purchase my tickets.

487 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:39:11am

re: #473 johnnyreb

I believe thats why they are not really exposing this,they are along for the ride.The mfmsm has tied their wagon to the current administration,expect the same thing for the duration.

488 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:39:36am

re: #479 pingjockey

Heh! I'm up here in the Cascade Mtns and the rafters have started up. This is snow runoff, so 3 days ago this water was snow! It is bloody cold!

Morning Ping!

Are you one of the rich with a mountain cabin?

Just a tiny bit of envy ;-)

489 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:39:37am

re: #486 Golem Akbar

Are there any gruntled fans?

490 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:39:43am

re: #486 Golem Akbar

I figured the Dodgers with Manny were a lock. He is a character and a game changer for sure.

491 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:39:51am

re: #483 Leonidas Hoplite

Manny's a great hitter, no doubts there. Personally I'm happy with Jason Bay.

Well at least he isn't suspended for 50 games?

492 freetoken  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:40:07am

Wow, Charles is going to have a mess to clean up downstairs ...

In other news... no, I don't expect Arnold to give too much pressure to President Obama.

What I find so very very ... strange(?) is the thinking that is going on wrt the budget/funds out here in CA. The idea of borrowing against future Lotto income is about as batty an idea as I've heard a state government concoct.

493 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:40:09am

re: #477 MJ

How do you spell liar:

Memo Says Pelosi Knew About Use of Harsh Tactics


[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

I think this is the best spelling: D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T.

494 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:40:41am

re: #488 jcm

Nope. Did get to go to the head of Lake Chelan for work for two days. Some some amazing houses!

495 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:40:54am

re: #487 Boondock St. Bender


Well to paraphrase Chris Matthews it is their job to make sure this administration is a success.

496 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:40:55am

Ron Paul!

497 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:41:06am

re: #493 MrSilverDragon

I think this is the best spelling: D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T.

I thought it is spelled : H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E

498 CynicalConservative  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:41:25am

re: #492 freetoken

Wow, Charles is going to have a mess to clean up downstairs ...

In other news... no, I don't expect Arnold to give too much pressure to President Obama.

What I find so very very ... strange(?) is the thinking that is going on wrt the budget/funds out here in CA. The idea of borrowing against future Lotto income is about as batty an idea as I've heard a state government concoct.

Acid still spouting off?

499 Golem Akbar  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:41:31am

re: #480 UFO TOFU

It's supposed to be a great weekend!


For all the nuttiness of LA's denizens, it's really a nice place to live. Great weather, great beaches, and even in-land it's wonderful. I get to go jogging nearly every day of the year. I complain, but really, it's not justified.

500 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:41:32am

re: #492 freetoken

On the DI thread? That's par for the course.

501 freetoken  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:41:51am

re: #498 CynicalConservative

Acid still spouting off?

He has backup this time.

502 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:42:09am

re: #497 Nevergiveup

I thought it is spelled : H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E

I've checked the congressional thesaurus, that works too.

503 freetoken  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:42:17am

re: #500 pingjockey

No, the mainstreaming of Paul thread.

504 Golem Akbar  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:42:32am

re: #490 pingjockey

I figured the Dodgers with Manny were a lock. He is a character and a game changer for sure.


Me too. Now, the Dodgers win streak might just get an asterisk in the record books.

505 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:43:16am

re: #494 pingjockey

Nope. Did get to go to the head of Lake Chelan for work for two days. Some some amazing houses!

There are some outrageous places going in the past 10 years. Hard to believe the development around Chelan, developers are still push ads for land here in Seattle.

506 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:43:17am

re: #500 pingjockey

On the DI thread? That's par for the course.


How many more of these type of threads do we need to have before people either respond civilly to each other or don't respond at all.

507 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:44:32am

re: #495 soxfan4life

yes,sadly enough.(at the sound of nose diving circulation figures )

508 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:44:42am

re: #504 Golem Akbar

Me too. Now, the Dodgers win streak might just get an asterisk in the record books.

The whole era is going to have an asterisk and there is going to be plenty of empty space in the Hall Of Fame.

509 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:44:42am

re: #477 MJ

At the risk of being overly negative, I have to say that the United States is not nearly the country that we like to think it is. This woman is lying straight to the American people, all for personal political power, while at the same time attempting to savage our National Defense/Intelligence communities. Despite that, she'll remain among the most powerful "leaders" in the nation.
Never mind the AIG executives, where are the pitchforks for this bitch?

510 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:46:35am

re: #477 MJ

How do you spell liar:

Memo Says Pelosi Knew About Use of Harsh Tactics

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

"This leadership team will create the most honest, most open, and most ethical Congress in history" - Nancy Pelosi

511 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:47:47am

re: #509 Lincolntf

At the risk of being overly negative, I have to say that the United States is not nearly the country that we like to think it is. This woman is lying straight to the American people, all for personal political power, while at the same time attempting to savage our National Defense/Intelligence communities. Despite that, she'll remain among the most powerful "leaders" in the nation.
Never mind the AIG executives, where are the pitchforks for this bitch?

stashed in the voting booths...the voters do not have to put up with her but thet do...people are stupid, they do it to themselves...the feds do not serve, they rule and voters want that

512 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:47:58am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (65 degrees, going up to 84 degrees) cloudy Charlotte! We are supposed to get HEAVY THUNDERSTORMS with Ligtning and Hail today, tomorrow, Mother's Day and Monday - no tornados mentioned yet.
Oh, Joy.
How is everyone doing this morning?

OH and btw, I don't know who this Tom Robbins is, but he stole my quote : "It's never too late to have a happy childhood!"

513 soxfan4life  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:48:00am

re: #508 Nevergiveup

The whole era is going to have an asterisk and there is going to be plenty of empty space in the Hall Of Fame.


Given his drastic drop in power numbers, there is mumblings about Ortiz as well. Guess it answers the big question about would you do PED's for a big money contract. Seems like the ones that were on the cusp and either didn't make it and should have considered PED's and those who did use Ped's and made the majors will be the next big bag of worms.

514 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:48:09am

Morning, Lizards!

515 Golem Akbar  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:48:14am

re: #508 Nevergiveup

The whole era is going to have an asterisk and there is going to be plenty of empty space in the Hall Of Fame.


Yes, I'm afraid you're right. Which is why I am only going to watch the untainted pro basketball er...pro boxing...uh..pro-football...ping pong! Yeah! Ping Pong...[ugh]

516 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:48:24am

re: #510 njdhockeyfan

haven't we heard that bullshit somewhere before?

517 UFO TOFU  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:48:42am

re: #510 njdhockeyfan

"This leadership team will create the most honest, most open, and most ethical Congress in history" - Nancy Pelosi

I just vurped a little in my mouth.

518 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:48:59am

re: #510 njdhockeyfan

"This leadership team will create the most honest, most open, and most ethical Congress in history" - Nancy Pelosi

The snarky part inside of my brain just thought that we should waterboard Nancy to find out what she knows.

Oh my goodness, did I just say that?

519 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:49:04am

I think we're bailing the ocean into the boat.

Fannie Mae seeks $19B in US aid after 1Q loss

Fannie Mae says it needs $19 billion in additional government aid after posting a loss of $23.2 billion in the first quarter as the taxpayer bill from the housing market bust mounts.

The mortgage finance company, seized by federal regulators last September, posted a quarterly loss of $4.09 per share on Friday. That compares with a loss of $2.5 billion, or $2.57 a share, in the year-ago period.

The results were driven by $20.9 billion in credit losses due to declining housing market conditions and $5.7 billion in writedowns of the value of its mortgage-backed securities.

The request for federal aid is its second since the takeover. The company received about $15 billion earlier this year.

520 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:49:11am

re: #503 freetoken

Aha!

521 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:49:16am

re: #509 Lincolntf

Too busy watching American Idol, Survivor, and nonsense like that to actually pay attention to those who are ruining this country.

522 J.D.  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:49:22am

re: #512 realwest

{real}
Tim Robbins is married to Susan Sarandon.
You'd know him if you saw him.

523 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:49:43am

re: #512 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (65 degrees, going up to 84 degrees) cloudy Charlotte! We are supposed to get HEAVY THUNDERSTORMS with Ligtning and Hail today, tomorrow, Mother's Day and Monday - no tornados mentioned yet.
Oh, Joy.
How is everyone doing this morning?

OH and btw, I don't know who this Tom Robbins is, but he stole my quote : "It's never too late to have a happy childhood!"


Tom Robbins, author.
*smooch*!

524 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:49:44am

re: #508 Nevergiveup

The whole era is going to have an asterisk and there is going to be plenty of empty space in the Hall Of Fame.

Maybe steroid use should be mandatory - it's the only way to be fair!

525 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:50:18am

re: #522 J.D.

{real}
Tim Robbins is married to Susan Sarandon.
You'd know him if you saw him.


LOL!

526 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:50:35am

re: #521 rightside

Too busy watching American Idol, Survivor, and nonsense like that to actually pay attention to those who are ruining this country.

I heard a rumor that Obama may appear on the American Idol finale.

527 Golem Akbar  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:50:36am

re: #521 rightside

Too busy watching American Idol, Survivor, and nonsense like that to actually pay attention to those who are ruining this country.


Personally, I'm addicted to The Amazing Race.

528 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:50:38am

re: #505 jcm

Only Microsoft millionaires can afford the property and the property taxes!

529 J.D.  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:50:44am
530 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:50:53am

re: #518 MrSilverDragon

The snarky part inside of my brain just thought that we should waterboard Nancy to find out what she knows.

Oh my goodness, did I just say that?

ROFLMAO! Wiping coffee off my screen and keyboard!

Excellent proposal!

531 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:51:41am

re: #528 pingjockey

Only Microsoft millionaires can afford the property and the property taxes!

Who needs those stinky redneck locals anyway!

/// ;-P

532 J.D.  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:51:44am

On, Tom Robbins.

Never heard of him, but I thought "How odd" that Charles would quote the other one.

533 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:51:50am

re: #527 Golem Akbar

Personally, I'm addicted to The Amazing Race.

I heard that Reverend Wright will be getting his own series, The Amazing Racist.

534 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:52:11am

Galloway sues Jews...
British MP sues Jewish leaders

British MP George Galloway is suing Immigration Minister Jason Kenney and the heads of two major Jewish groups over remarks they made about him when he was barred from entering Canada in March.

Galloway was scheduled to appear on a speaking tour in Canada but the Canada Border Services Agency denied him entry. Kenney refused to override that decision, saying he would not give special treatment to someone who gave financial aid to Hamas.

In addition to Kenney, Canadian Jewish Congress co-president Sylvain Abitbol and CEO Bernie Farber, as well as B’nai Brith Canada executive vice-president Frank Dimant were served with formal notices of a libel action.

“I welcome robust criticism, but the comments made about me crossed the line. They are not only untrue, they are outrageous,” Galloway said in a statement.

535 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:52:19am

re: #526 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's sad how there is so much celebrity worship here.

536 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:52:22am
537 J.D.  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:53:06am

re: #536 redstateredneck

Tom Robbins

What a cutey.
/

538 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:53:24am

re: #535 rightside

It's sad how there is so much celebrity worship here.

MLB?...I totally agree

539 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:53:27am

First Tom Robbins book I read was "Even Cowgirls Get the Blues". I was 20 years old and became an instant fan.

540 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:53:34am

re: #536 redstateredneck

Tom Robbins

Robin Thomas

541 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:53:40am

re: #522 J.D.

tim robbins is the guy who looks like he married his mom,(although he ain't looking too good lately either lol)
tom robbins is a writer (novels and such...pretty good reads actually.i wouls recommend "jitterbug perfume" if i remembered the name correctly.

542 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:53:53am

re: #535 rightside

It's sad how there is so much celebrity worship here.

Nah, we need more to worship.

543 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:54:57am

re: #540 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Robin Thomas

Rob Thomas

544 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:55:10am

re: #542 jcm

I'm down with that. Who is she?

545 J.D.  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:55:17am

Obama and the 9/11 Families
The president isn't sincere about 'swift and certain' justice for terrorists.
By DEBRA BURLINGAME

...The Obama team has established a pattern that should be plain for all to see. When controversy erupts or legitimate policy differences are presented by well-meaning people, send out the celebrity president to flatter and charm.

Most recently, Mr. Obama appeared at the CIA after demoralizing the agency with the declassification and release of memos containing sensitive information on CIA interrogations. He appealed to moral vanity by saying that fighting a war against fanatic barbarians "with one hand tied behind your back" is being on "the better side of history," even though innocent lives are put at risk. He promised the assembled staff and analysts that if they keep applying themselves, they won't be personally marked for career-destroying sanctions or criminal prosecutions, even as disbelieving counterterrorism professionals -- the field operatives and their foreign partners -- shut down critical operations for fear of public disclosure and political retribution in the never-ending Beltway soap opera called Capitol Hill.

It worked: On television, his speech looked like a campaign rally, with people jumping up and down, cheering. Meanwhile, the media have moved on, even as they continue to recklessly and irresponsibly use the word "torture" in their stories.

I asked Cmdr. Kirk Lippold why some of the Cole families declined the invitation to meet with Barack Obama at the White House.

"They saw it for what it was."

546 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:55:30am

re: #522 {J.D.}
and
re: #523 {redstateredneck}

re: #529 {J.D.} /em>

Ha, ha. {J.D.} I said Tom Robbins, not Tim Robbins!
And {Red} I know Tom Robbins has written a lot of books - some really great ones (I loved "Even Cowgirls Get The Blues") but I'm telling ya that he stole that line from ME! LOL!

547 KenJen  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:55:55am

"Its never too late to have a happy childhood unless you grew up with the evil George W. Bush as your president"

-Tim Robbins.

548 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:57:00am

re: #546 realwest

In that case,Quick summon the lawyers!

549 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:57:34am

re: #534 Killgore Trout

They told the truth about that sob and now he sues!

550 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:58:44am

re: #549 pingjockey

They told the truth about that sob and now he sues!

sue him back...it works both ways

551 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:58:49am

re: #542 jcm Hey jcm! Good morning my friend! We could all (well the men, anyway) worship HER! But if we need more celebrities to worship I humbly submit that y'all can worship me!
Ok, I know I'm not a celebrity or anything, but just in case we do run out of celebrities to worship, I'm sayin' y'all can worship me, just cause that's the kinda guy I am!

552 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:58:58am

re: #544 rightside

I'm down with that. Who is she?

Patricia Velásquez

553 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:59:20am
554 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 6:59:47am

Man Finds Snake Head in Broccoli at New York Diner

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I wonder who got the rest of the snake?

555 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:00:01am

re: #546 realwest

and
re: #523 {redstateredneck}

re: #529 {J.D.} /em>

Ha, ha. {J.D.} I said Tom Robbins, not Tim Robbins!
And {Red} I know Tom Robbins has written a lot of books - some really great ones (I loved "Even Cowgirls Get The Blues") but I'm telling ya that he stole that line from ME! LOL!

Did he also steal the line about women smelling like a tuna fish's retirement party? No wonder you've been divorced how many times?
;-)

556 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:00:19am

re: #547 KenJen
Yeah and ya know it's a shame - I saw Tim Robbins in the Shawshank Redemption and thought he was very good in it and the movie is on my all time 25 best films of all time.

557 rightside  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:00:26am

re: #552 jcm

Thanks.

558 Taqyia2Me  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:00:41am

re: #519 jcm

I think we're bailing the ocean into the boat.

Fannie Mae seeks $19B in US aid after 1Q loss

Baney Frank assures his boyfriend is running Fannie Mae quite well and it's balance sheets are all in fine order...oops...wait a minute...that was when a Republican was in the White House...

559 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:00:41am

re: #554 Nevergiveup

Man Finds Snake Head in Broccoli at New York Diner

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I wonder who got the rest of the snake?

Those are chock full of... heady goodness
/Apu

560 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:00:45am

re: #548 Boondock St. Bender You called?!

561 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:01:47am

re: #556 realwest

Yeah and ya know it's a shame - I saw Tim Robbins in the Shawshank Redemption and thought he was very good in it and the movie is on my all time 25 best films of all time.

I know. I hate it when someone who I really love as an actor is such a POS and out there being an activist for the libs. Just STFU!

562 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:01:58am

re: #558 Taqyia2Me

Baney Frank assures his boyfriend is running Fannie Mae quite well and it's balance sheets are all in fine order...oops...wait a minute...that was when a Republican was in the White House...

When will Sallie Mae go under so I won't have to pay my student loans anymore?
/

563 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:02:16am

re: #551 realwest

Hey jcm! Good morning my friend! We could all (well the men, anyway) worship HER! But if we need more celebrities to worship I humbly submit that y'all can worship me!
Ok, I know I'm not a celebrity or anything, but just in case we do run out of celebrities to worship, I'm sayin' y'all can worship me, just cause that's the kinda guy I am!

Aaron Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man

Yes, I know Copland was a commie.

564 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:02:25am

re: #539 redstateredneck

First Tom Robbins book I read was "Even Cowgirls Get the Blues". I was 20 years old and became an instant fan.

I read the Woodpecker one...and then read all the rest. Great writer

565 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:02:43am

re: #555 redstateredneck
HEY {Red} LET'S NOT GET personal about this, ok?!
Sheeesh!

566 J.D.  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:03:04am

re: #553 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

Hugo Chávez to oil services companies: You won't work for me for free? Well, then, I'll just steal your stuff.

I wonder if Obama is taking notes.


Or at least read the book.

567 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:03:15am

re: #539 redstateredneck

Me too. Someone gave me a book of his one day, "Skinny Legs and All", and I read all of his books within the next month or two. It's been a long time so I might be able to get some "re-read" value now. I think I'll go dig out some of them for summer reading.

568 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:03:20am

re: #565 realwest

HEY {Red} LET'S NOT GET personal about this, ok?!
Sheeesh!

Have I told you lately that I love you?

569 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:04:13am

re: #567 Lincolntf

Me too. Someone gave me a book of his one day, "Skinny Legs and All", and I read all of his books within the next month or two. It's been a long time so I might be able to get some "re-read" value now. I think I'll go dig out some of them for summer reading.

Is "Skinny Legs and All" the one with the diner called Isaac and Ishmael's?

570 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:05:53am

re: #563 jcm Huh. I didn't know Copland was a commie! But thanks for that music video!

571 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:05:54am

re: #553 Occasional Reader

ah yes,kick out the skilled labor,and put loyalist lackeys in their place...that'll work..heh,heh,heh.watch as another socialist regime take incredible natural assets,and reduces itself to abject poverty.

572 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:06:24am

re: #569 redstateredneck

I think so. But someone just mentioned the "Woodpecker" book and now I'm thinking that that might have been the first one I read. I believe I recall a talking piece of string having a featured role.

573 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:06:25am

re: #569 redstateredneck

Yeah, yeah, and it's across the street from the United Nations, right?

574 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:06:59am

re: #566 J.D.

Or at least read the book.

I wonder how Carter or the Hollywood crowd would spin this tasty little story...the MSM is my dire enemy

575 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:07:03am

re: #572 Lincolntf

I think so. But someone just mentioned the "Woodpecker" book and now I'm thinking that that might have been the first one I read. I believe I recall a talking piece of string having a featured role.

I'm like you. It's been so long since I read them I think I'm going to make them my summer reading program, too.

576 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:07:18am

re: #566 J.D. Nah, Obama isn't taking notes, Chavez is - honest! His notes are coming directly from Obama!

577 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:08:10am

re: #573 redstateredneck

Yeah, yeah, and it's across the street from the United Nations, right?

Huh... I've had breakfast at a diner/coffee shop right across the street from the UN in Manhattan. But those guys were Greeks (quel surprise), so I doubt it was the basis for the fictional one.

578 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:08:24am

re: #534 Killgore Trout

Galloway sues Jews...
British MP sues Jewish leaders

It looks like he's suing them in Canada.
I don't know what Canadian law is, but I wonder if they could require him to enter Canada to actually sue, and then arrest him for supporting a terrorist group. He could be allowed to appear in court in prison garb.

579 Dustoff-507  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:08:56am

Morning all. Just thought I would stop by before going off to class "again" )-:

Boeing is sending me to all these classes. I feel like I'm back in college...

YUCK!

580 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:09:18am

re: #570 realwest

Huh. I didn't know Copland was a commie! But thanks for that music video!

Copland, Personal Life.

Deciding not to follow the example of his father, a solid Democrat, Copland never enrolled as a member of any political party; but he espoused a general progressive view and had strong ties with numerous colleagues and friends in the Popular Front, including Odets.[72] Copland supported the Communist Party USA ticket during the 1936 presidential election, at the height of his involvement with The Group Theater, and remained a committed opponent of militarism and the Cold War, which he regarded as having been instigated by the United States. He condemned it as, "almost worse for art than the real thing". Throw the artist "into a mood of suspicion, ill-will, and dread that typifies the cold war attitude and he'll create nothing."[73] In keeping with these attitudes, Copland was a strong supporter of the Presidential candidacy of Henry A. Wallace on the Progressive Party ticket. As a result, he was later investigated by the FBI during the Red scare of the 1950s and found himself blacklisted. Copland was included on an FBI list of 151 artists thought to have Communist associations. Joseph McCarthy and Roy Cohn questioned Copland about his lecturing abroad, neglecting completely Copland's works which made a virtue of American values.[74]
581 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:09:20am

re: #445 soxfan4life

Tell me again why all of these governors shouldn't tell him to shove his stimulus money straight up his ass. Apparently the whole states rights clause of the Constitution flew right by this Harvard educated idiot.

California could do that, if they hadn't dug themselves into such a hole.

582 UFO TOFU  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:09:34am

re: #563 jcm

More my style:

583 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:09:44am

re: #560 realwest

no,no,no...you're too nice,ethical...a case like this demands a low-life of the worst stripe someone without shame or scruple,someone who can lie like a rug,and still look fresh as cement...hmmm...is john edwards busy...

584 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:10:00am

re: #568 redstateredneck
Well no, not in so many words!
Damn though now I can't get that song out of my mind
Have I told you lately,
that I love you
Have I something something somethin,about
your charms
DAMNIT -*shakes fist in Red's direction*

585 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:10:02am

re: #579 Dustoff-507

Heh. Boeing gunna edumicate youse in da aeryplane stuff!

586 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:10:29am

re: #549 pingjockey

He's going to have a hard time explaining the photographic evidence...
Galloway Hands Cash to Hamas

587 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:10:34am

re: #578 Kosh's Shadow

It looks like he's suing them in Canada.
I don't know what Canadian law is, but I wonder if they could require him to enter Canada to actually sue, and then arrest him for supporting a terrorist group. He could be allowed to appear in court in prison garb.

The article doesn't say what the remarks were that are the basis for the libel suit, but if they were anything like "Galloway supports terrorism"... hey, Georgie? Bad news. Truth is a defense in libel.

588 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:10:54am

re: #579 Dustoff-507

Morning all. Just thought I would stop by before going off to class "again" )-:

Boeing is sending me to all these classes. I feel like I'm back in college...

YUCK!

Dustoff's class schedule.

Tie knotting 101, followed by table manners, and silverware etiquette.

///

Morning Dustoff, how have you been?

589 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:11:04am

re: #577 Occasional Reader

Huh... I've had breakfast at a diner/coffee shop right across the street from the UN in Manhattan. But those guys were Greeks (quel surprise), so I doubt it was the basis for the fictional one.

Cheeseburger, cheeseburer, pepsi no coke?

590 Dustoff-507  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:11:15am

re: #585 pingjockey


LOL, well. They are trying...

591 lawhawk  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:11:20am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Pakistani government says that they're taking the gloves off in the fight against the Taliban, but I see things differently.

They have 15,000 troops in the provinces, but most are in the barracks. They're not out fighting the Taliban. That suggests the government is more interested in the appearance of doing something to combat the Taliban than actually combating them. It's more to assuage the US and Afghan governments, which are furiously trying to stem the Taliban inside Afghanistan.

Pakistan continues to engage in a cycle of violence - crackdown and appeasement all while trying to have it both ways.

All the while, the Taliban become more firmly entrenched in the provinces, and the job of rooting the Taliban out of these locations becomes more difficult by the day.

592 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:11:21am

re: #586 Killgore Trout

Kinda tough to explain that away!

593 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:11:36am

re: #585 pingjockey

Heh. Boeing gunna edumicate youse in da aeryplane stuff!

Somebody needs to show 'em how to get a plane out on time.

594 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:12:00am

re: #551 realwest

Hey jcm! Good morning my friend! We could all (well the men, anyway) worship HER! But if we need more celebrities to worship I humbly submit that y'all can worship me!
Ok, I know I'm not a celebrity or anything, but just in case we do run out of celebrities to worship, I'm sayin' y'all can worship me, just cause that's the kinda guy I am!

{realwest} That's why I'm here! *smoochie-smooch* :D How's every little thing?

595 Dustoff-507  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:12:15am

re: #588 jcm


Been good buddy.. Did you see the pictures of the Everett Tech school going up in flames.

596 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:12:23am

re: #590 Dustoff-507

Good luck, unless you have a buncha HR shit to put up with.

597 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:12:30am

re: #579 Dustoff-507
Hey there Dustoff! How are ya doing my friend? What kinda classes are they sending you to?

598 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:12:34am

re: #493 MrSilverDragon

I think this is the best spelling: D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T.

That ought to set her to blinkin'.

/heh

599 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:13:11am

re: #595 Dustoff-507

Been good buddy.. Did you see the pictures of the Everett Tech school going up in flames.

Saw that, you guys are right across the street, a little foam couldn't have hurt but they never called you, what's up with that?

600 Dustoff-507  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:13:14am

re: #593 jcm

If the 787 doesn't get on time, this time. Were sunk!

601 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:13:32am

re: #580 jcm

Don't you love the tortured logic of that Wiki entry? Copland was unfairly blacklisted during the "Red Scare"! McCarthy and Cohn questioned him about his lectures abroad, paying no attention to his wonderful music which celebrated American values!

Oh, and of COURSE, he was a Communist. Irrelevant, I tellsya!

602 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:13:43am

re: #598 Ward Cleaver

You forgot a letter...D-E-M-O-N-R-A-T.

603 Dustoff-507  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:13:43am

re: #596 pingjockey


HR, my field. TONS of it. )-:

604 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:13:45am

re: #591 lawhawk

500,000 refuges fleeing out of the area will be some kind of problem as well...where are they gonna go?

605 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:14:16am

re: #579 Dustoff-507

Morning all. Just thought I would stop by before going off to class "again" )-:

Boeing is sending me to all these classes. I feel like I'm back in college...

YUCK!

Beer and pizza's on Dustoff! Yaaay! :D

606 Dustoff-507  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:14:26am

re: #597 realwest


Medical policy at Boeing and other sites.
Hey their paying for it. (-:

607 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:14:39am

Japanese Simple Machine using Simple Force

608 redstateredneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:14:57am

Gotta get back to work, so here's another Robbin's quote:

“When they tell you to grow up, they mean stop growing.”
609 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:15:23am

re: #583 Boondock St. Bender Well thank you for the compliments, but if you're bringing in that ambulance chaser, immoral cheat on your cancer stricken wife and make her stand next to you when you announce it, count me out!

610 Dustoff-507  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:15:24am

re: #599 jcm


Everett FD needed some training. LOL. It's funny though, the Everett school teaches fire 101.

611 pingjockey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:15:25am

re: #603 Dustoff-507

Gaaah! I got off the ship about the time sensitivity training started for the female sailors the cruiser was getting.
Gotta go!

612 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:15:27am

re: #292 MandyManners

Am I the only who sees a narcissist when I look at him?

No, Peterson is very much a narcissist. Being a bit closer to the action, I can tell you a bit more about the players. Peterson was with the Bolingbrook PD for years, and was a court photographer for them back in the 1990s. There are very troubling details about how his third wife's death was declared an accident. Some of this is conjecture on my part, but based on what I know of the players involved. In 2000, we replaced our long-time state's attorney (Glasgow) with one Jeff Tomczak. Tomczak was the son of Donald Tomczak, a member of the Daley Machine. Donald is a Democrat, and his son registered and ran as a Republican (these mean little in Illinois as one can see). We kicked Jeff Tomczak out of office in 2004 after we found out about his Chicago connections and replaced him with Glasgow. Out here in Will County, we do not appreciate having Machine/Combine politicians in office.

Bolingbrook is a village in Illinois, and that means that it has a strong mayor and a weak village board. Villages and cities are defined by type of government, not size. The mayor of Bolingbrook is Roger Claar. He has been mayor since 1985. Claar has been neck deep in the corruption that passes for Illinois politics for quite some time now. He also has been known to bully the developers (got one of them to gift him a lot in a very nice sub) and retailers in town. He works hard to get opponents kicked off the ballot (sound familiar?). He and Tomczak are part of the same political machine that John Kass of the Chicago Tribune calls "The Combine". Claar gets very pissy whenever Bolingbrook is made to look bad in some way, shape, or form. I know this from personal experience with the man (yes, I've met him).

When Ms. Savio turned up dead in 2004, they were very quick to declare the death an accident. Too quick. Since a Bolingbrook Police Sargent was involved, it would've looked very bad on Bolingbrook if he were to have been arrested for her death. I suspect, and this is merely suspicion right now, that Claar and Tomczak had soemthing to do with declaring her death an accident. Something stinks in Bolingbrook.

613 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:15:47am

re: #600 Dustoff-507

If the 787 doesn't get on time, this time. Were sunk!

Nah, Obama will just hand the company over to the unions... works like a charm.

/

614 Dustoff-507  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:16:05am

re: #605 Miss Trixie


Works for me Pretty lady. (-:

615 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:16:30am

re: #518 MrSilverDragon

The snarky part inside of my brain just thought that we should waterboard Nancy to find out what she knows.

Oh my goodness, did I just say that?

It wouldnb't work. Her face is watertight and she already cracked a long time ago. /

616 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:17:20am

re: #587 Occasional Reader
"Truth is a defense in libel."
Apparently not in Canada!
Good morning my friend!

617 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:17:22am

re: #601 Occasional Reader

Don't you love the tortured logic of that Wiki entry? Copland was unfairly blacklisted during the "Red Scare"! McCarthy and Cohn questioned him about his lectures abroad, paying no attention to his wonderful music which celebrated American values!

Oh, and of COURSE, he was a Communist. Irrelevant, I tellsya!

...neglecting completely Copland's works which made a virtue of American values.

Loved that line, even Fanfare for the Common Man follows the theme, exalting the proletariat etc... I still like the piece, oh well.

618 Dustoff-507  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:17:35am

re: #613 Occasional Reader


HEY... stop scaring me. damn I just wet my pants. LOL

619 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:18:18am

re: #591 lawhawk

So who will have nuclear bombs first - the Taliban or Iran?
Feeling cheery today?

620 Dustoff-507  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:19:11am

Time to go folks.

Have a GREAT weekend.

JCM... Do you think the sun and warm weather will ever show up? )-:

621 lawhawk  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:19:21am

re: #604 albusteve

Actually some of the reports say that a million refugees could be created by the fighting. Some are going to refugee camps and trying to find safe havens elsewhere in the country, but it's a huge mess.

622 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:19:55am

re: #618 Dustoff-507

HEY... stop scaring me. damn I just wet my pants. LOL

Management report to the shop steward!
Management report to the shop steward!

You will be retrained and reassigned!

623 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:19:58am

re: #503 freetoken

No, the mainstreaming of Paul thread.

I saw. Had to re-read it this morning. There are real kooks on that thread, and they seem to be fascist sympathizers (no real shock there). I hope Stinky gets some serious overtime pay.

624 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:20:01am

re: #594 {Miss Trixie} Hey hi there gorgeous! *smooches* back to you! But could you, ah, keep the fan mail stuff to the e-mails, please - I'm getting a big head thinking about being worshipped as a celebrity as it is!
:)

625 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:20:22am

re: #609 realwest

lol...for such an oily cuss,his hair is remarkably bouncy!now cue:
Breaking news!john edwards wears wig!(bastard isn't even faithful to his hair!)

626 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:20:22am

re: #620 Dustoff-507

Time to go folks.

Have a GREAT weekend.

JCM... Do you think the sun and warm weather will ever show up? )-:

LOL! I don't think so, I lit the fire off again this week.

627 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:20:39am

re: #617 jcm

...neglecting completely Copland's works which made a virtue of American values.

Loved that line, even Fanfare for the Common Man follows the theme, exalting the proletariat etc... I still like the piece, oh well.

How about PDQ Bach's Fanfare for the Common Cold?

628 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:20:58am

re: #614 Dustoff-507

Works for me Pretty lady. (-:

I've been incredibly busy these last few months with little or no time to visit here and haven't posted much. Good to see you still around and kicking. :D

629 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:21:30am

re: #591 lawhawk

Good analysis. Depressing but accurate I think.

630 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:21:47am

re: #612 Honorary Yooper

No, Peterson is very much a narcissist.

Good morning! It is finally sunny here in the NYC Metro area.

Absolutely Peterson is a narcissist. I am not sure if this true, but I had heard that he was arrested on the street and had made a comment about how he guesses that those overdue library books have finally caught up with him. Asshole.

631 Eowyn2  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:22:19am

re: #14 Slumbering Behemoth

You get paid for throwing rocks at bottles, and blowing up G.I. Joes?

/what are y'all looking at? what did you do to have fun as a child?

I stole my brother's gi joe to be barbies boyfriend.

632 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:22:36am

re: #630 ilzito guacamolito

Good morning! It is finally sunny here in the NYC Metro area.

Absolutely Peterson is a narcissist. I am not sure if this true, but I had heard that he was arrested on the street and had made a comment about how he guesses that those overdue library books have finally caught up with him. Asshole.

Yeah, but an asshole who still might be hard to convict.

633 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:22:38am

re: #621 lawhawk

Actually some of the reports say that a million refugees could be created by the fighting. Some are going to refugee camps and trying to find safe havens elsewhere in the country, but it's a huge mess.

I'm sure the Talis are thinking to drag the UN into the conflict somehow...blame a humanitarian crisis on the Pakis...etc etc...get some favorable media coverage

634 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:22:48am

re: #631 Eowyn2

Lucky Joe.

635 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:23:25am

re: #623 Honorary Yooper

I saw. Had to re-read it this morning. There are real kooks on that thread, and they seem to be fascist sympathizers (no real shock there). I hope Stinky gets some serious overtime pay.

I cannot for the life of me understand how Ron Paul has become a cult figure to the right nuts. Far from being charismatic, he barely registers a pulse! We could be in real trouble if a real charmer ever took control of the nuts.

636 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:23:32am

re: #631 Eowyn2

I stole my brother's gi joe to be barbies boyfriend.

My daughter dressed He-Man in Barbie's clothes.

637 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:23:42am

re: #606 Dustoff-507 Medical policy? WTH is that? That no one should get sick cause it's icky or something?!
Well they sure knew what they were doing when they picked you to attend these classes!
Hell, y'all oughta be teaching THEM - Medevac medic, EMT/firefighter and all.
Semi- seriously what the hell are THEY gonna teach you?!

638 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:24:03am

re: #627 Kosh's Shadow

How about PDQ Bach's Fanfare for the Common Cold?

Completely forgot about that masterpiece!

;-)

639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:24:11am

re: #631 Eowyn2

I stole my brother's gi joe to be barbies boyfriend.

She probably liked him a lot more than that sissy Ken.

640 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:24:13am

re: #633 albusteve

I'm sure the Talis are thinking to drag the UN into the conflict somehow...blame a humanitarian crisis on the Pakis...etc etc...get some favorable media coverage

If they want to get the UN involved, they'll have to blame the Jooos.

641 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:24:35am

re: #632 Nevergiveup

Yeah, but an asshole who still might be hard to convict.

My guess is impossible to convict on the third wife's murder. And with wife number four still missing, he'll skate on that one too. Isn't he engaged again?

642 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:24:47am

re: #637 realwest

Medical policy? WTH is that? That no one should get sick cause it's icky or something?!
Well they sure knew what they were doing when they picked you to attend these classes!
Hell, y'all oughta be teaching THEM - Medevac medic, EMT/firefighter and all.
Semi- seriously what the hell are THEY gonna teach you?!

Dustoff gone over to the Dark Side...

He's management!

643 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:25:04am

re: #563 jcm

Aaron Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man

[Video]Yes, I know Copland was a commie.

I don't know what to make of Copland. He's one of my favorite composers (I have his complete CD collection), and he's hailed as a great American, probably because most people don't know anything about his life. You could make the case that Fanfare for the Common Man was intended to lift up the proletariat.

He was the quintessential 20th century American composer, but he hardly lived a quintessential 20th century American life.

644 saberry0530  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:25:06am

re: #639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

She probably liked him a lot more than that sissy Ken.

KEN! The start of the metrosexual problem.

Discuss...

645 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:25:12am

Good morning everyone. Does Afrocity Brown still post here? Haven't seen her in a while, except on Facebook.

646 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:25:17am

re: #635 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I cannot for the life of me understand how Ron Paul has become a cult figure to the right nuts. Far from being charismatic, he barely registers a pulse! We could be in real trouble if a real charmer ever took control of the nuts.

Doesn't have to be a "charmer", just mesmerizing, like Hitler.

647 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:25:44am

re: #640 Kosh's Shadow

If they want to get the UN involved, they'll have to blame the Jooos.

good point...that's where the big bucks are

648 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:26:03am

re: #630 ilzito guacamolito

Good morning! It is finally sunny here in the NYC Metro area.

Absolutely Peterson is a narcissist. I am not sure if this true, but I had heard that he was arrested on the street and had made a comment about how he guesses that those overdue library books have finally caught up with him. Asshole.

Yep, arrested at a fairly busy street corner, Weber Road and Lily Cache Lane (aka 107th Street). They pulled his car over there and arrested him on the spot. All through this investigation, Peterson's been full of smarmy comments like the above. Here's some pictures courtesy of our local paper.

649 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:26:10am

re: #640 Kosh's Shadow

If they want to get the UN involved, they'll have to blame the Jooos.

Well the State Department, Rahm Emmanuel, and General Jones already have said stability in the Middle East depends on "solving" the Israeli-Palestine Question?

650 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:26:30am

re: #643 Ward Cleaver

I don't know what to make of Copland. He's one of my favorite composers (I have his complete CD collection), and he's hailed as a great American, probably because most people don't know anything about his life. You could make the case that Fanfare for the Common Man was intended to lift up the proletariat.

He was the quintessential 20th century American composer, but he hardly lived a quintessential 20th century American life.

I believe that he & Leonard Bernstein had an affair.

651 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:26:42am

re: #641 ilzito guacamolito

My guess is impossible to convict on the third wife's murder. And with wife number four still missing, he'll skate on that one too. Isn't he engaged again?

I thought she broke it off before she got broke?

652 lawhawk  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:28:15am

Meanwhile, back in Chicago, we've got ourselves a quagmire, and the flag of distress has gone up... at Rev. Pflegler's church.

653 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:28:32am

re: #648 Honorary Yooper

Yep, arrested at a fairly busy street corner, Weber Road and Lily Cache Lane (aka 107th Street). They pulled his car over there and arrested him on the spot. All through this investigation, Peterson's been full of smarmy comments like the above. Here's some pictures courtesy of our local paper.

Thanks for the pics. Looking at that smug tool has curbed my appetite for today. Smarmy doesn't even begin to define his words and demeanor.

654 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:28:45am

re: #626 jcm
Um, 'scuse me, but how does one "I lit the fire off again this week."? I thought you lit the fire on, not off!
Time for more coffee, BBIAM!

655 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:28:59am

re: #651 Nevergiveup

I thought she broke it off before she got broke?


Broke or broken?

656 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:29:11am

re: #641 ilzito guacamolito

from thin blue line to bluebeard?(why any woman would sign on with a track record like that...)

657 KenJen  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:29:26am

re: #591 lawhawk

Are these guys all Pakistani Taliban or are they coming in from other countries? I could not find any info on that.

658 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:29:42am

Gates of Vienna has a very long winded defense of Pro-Köln posted. If you can read the whole thing you're a better man than I.

659 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:29:49am

re: #655 ilzito guacamolito

Broke or broken?

Well I meant broken, but since you can't take it with ya, does it really matter?

660 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:29:51am

re: #649 Nevergiveup

Well the State Department, Rahm Emmanuel, and General Jones already have said stability in the Middle East depends on "solving" the Israeli-Palestine Question?

They still have to find a way to tie it to Pakistan somehow, but I'm sure they're working on it.
Meanwhile, the Saudis are telling Biden, basically "Screw the Palestinians, keep Iran from getting a bomb!" while Obama is still pressuring Israel.

661 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:30:01am

re: #641 ilzito guacamolito

My guess is impossible to convict on the third wife's murder. And with wife number four still missing, he'll skate on that one too. Isn't he engaged again?

Apparently, she gave back the ring after realizing that Petersonw as using the engagement for publicity. I think he'll be convicted on the murder of his third wife. Illinois recently passed a law regarding hearsay evidence from dead or missing persons. And this particular state's attorney is like a bulldog. He'll do everything he can within the letter of the law to get this prick convicted.

662 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:31:03am

re: #661 Honorary Yooper

Apparently, she gave back the ring after realizing that Petersonw as using the engagement for publicity. I think he'll be convicted on the murder of his third wife. Illinois recently passed a law regarding hearsay evidence from dead or missing persons. And this particular state's attorney is like a bulldog. He'll do everything he can within the letter of the law to get this prick convicted.

So the dead can testify as well as vote in Chicago?

663 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:31:08am

re: #643 Ward Cleaver

I don't know what to make of Copland. He's one of my favorite composers (I have his complete CD collection), and he's hailed as a great American, probably because most people don't know anything about his life. You could make the case that Fanfare for the Common Man was intended to lift up the proletariat.

He was the quintessential 20th century American composer, but he hardly lived a quintessential 20th century American life.

He's a very mixed bag isn't he? I love his music. I tend to think he's progressivism was rooted in what he saw in the Depression and the suffering of the lower income levels. It was more of a genuine concern for "The Comman Man" and honestly arrived at than the power hungry variety we see now.

The 30's produce a lot of communists and nazis in country that were naive but well meaning.

664 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:31:37am

re: #656 Boondock St. Bender

from thin blue line to bluebeard?(why any woman would sign on with a track record like that...)

Apparently one of his brethren (namely Scott Petersen) gets so much 'fan' mail in prison that they can't handle it all. Who knows what attracts women to scum like these guys.

665 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:31:48am

re: #654 realwest

Um, 'scuse me, but how does one "I lit the fire off again this week."? I thought you lit the fire on, not off!
Time for more coffee, BBIAM!

Why do we park in the driveway, but drive on the parkway?

666 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:32:14am

re: #652 lawhawk

Meanwhile, back in Chicago, we've got ourselves a quagmire, and the flag of distress has gone up... at Rev. Pflegler's church.

Pfleger is an asshole. He whines about "gun violence" while cozying up to the gangs that cause said gun violence.

667 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:32:30am

re: #650 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I believe that he & Leonard Bernstein had an affair.

I've heard that as well. Ironically, I also have a "Bernstein plays Copland" CD as well. What part of Copland did Bernstein play? The skin flute?

668 johnnyreb  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:32:31am

re: #662 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So the dead can testify as well as vote in Chicago?

Why not? Makes perfect sense if you are from Chicago.

669 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:32:33am

re: #665 jcm

Why do we park in the driveway, but drive on the parkway?

Why are there interstates in Hawaii?

670 Bloodnok  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:33:32am

Good morning, Lizards! It's a nice day in NH and I have f*** all to do. Just the way I want it.

671 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:33:32am

re: #661 Honorary Yooper

Apparently, she gave back the ring after realizing that Petersonw as using the engagement for publicity. I think he'll be convicted on the murder of his third wife. Illinois recently passed a law regarding hearsay evidence from dead or missing persons. And this particular state's attorney is like a bulldog. He'll do everything he can within the letter of the law to get this prick convicted.

I had heard that she had told friends and family that if she died 'accidentally' that he did it. Why, oh, why don't people put things in writing and date them, notarize them or whatever?

672 J.S.  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:35:07am

re: #621 lawhawk

Actually some of the reports say that a million refugees could be created by the fighting.

Technically speaking, are those refugees or displaced persons?

673 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:35:17am

re: #669 MrSilverDragon

Why are there interstates in Hawaii?

Yeah, why didn't they just make it a US Highway, built to interstate standards? All I can figure is it was funded under the interstate and defense highway program, so it got an interstate designation.

674 Nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:35:27am

re: #671 ilzito guacamolito

I had heard that she had told friends and family that if she died 'accidentally' that he did it. Why, oh, why don't people put things in writing and date them, notarize them or whatever?

Great way to go into a marriage?

675 yma o hyd  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:35:30am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are you all today?
Here, its blowing a gale ... some sun, but aww, its cold! About 55, max temp ...

676 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:36:08am

re: #652 lawhawk Uh oh - criticizing King Daley is sure to get Rev Pfleger thrown under the bus with Rev Wright.
What the hell is going on here? Rev Wright, Rev Pfleger, Rev Jackson, Rev Sharpton - I thought all the religious problems were on the Right?!

677 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:36:12am

re: #627 Kosh's Shadow

How about PDQ Bach's Fanfare for the Common Cold?

I also liked their Greek Tragedy Western Operetta, "Oedipus Tex".

(Been a while since I've seen PDQ... thanks for the reminder.)

678 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:36:12am

re: #664 ilzito guacamolito

I would hope they were vying for the chance to bludgen the cur to death in his sleep.Oh well...guess the world won't run out of idiots

679 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:36:14am

re: #674 Nevergiveup

Great way to go into a marriage?

Savio had apparently said that after they were married when she began to fear for her life.

680 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:36:27am

re: #672 J.S.

Technically speaking, are those refugees or displaced persons?


Refugees are people who are displaced and go to another country. Internally displaced persons are displaced within their own country. I guess technically they're both refugees.

681 saberry0530  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:36:35am

re: #675 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are you all today?
Here, its blowing a gale ... some sun, but aww, its cold! About 55, max temp ...

Supposed to be 89 here today with heat index to 96. Southern Louisiana at its best.

682 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:36:58am

re: #672 J.S.

Technically speaking, are those refugees or displaced persons?

I thought that to be "refugees" they had to cross an international border. Like the peeps from NO after Katrina - they are "displaced persons", but I still call 'em refugees, since they lived in the third world.

683 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:37:06am

re: #673 Ward Cleaver

Yeah, why didn't they just make it a US Highway, built to interstate standards? All I can figure is it was funded under the interstate and defense highway program, so it got an interstate designation.

You hand out billions in funds for highways, and leave Hawaii out?

Not gonna' happen, everyone gets a piece of the pot.

684 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:37:33am

re: #666 Honorary Yooper

Pfleger is an asshole. He whines about "gun violence" while cozying up to the gangs that cause said gun violence.

Gawd-DAMN those violent guns, that keep going off all by themselves and causing all this gun violence!

685 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:37:34am

re: #669 MrSilverDragon

Why are there interstates in Hawaii?

Those are part of the National System of Interstate and Defense Highways. They exist due to the population of Oahu and the number of military bases on Oahu. There are also interstates in Alaska and Puerto Rico, but those are unsigned.

686 Eowyn2  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:37:44am

re: #553 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

Hugo Chávez to oil services companies: You won't work for me for free? Well, then, I'll just steal your stuff.

I wonder if Obama is taking notes.

"This is a grave error because we don't have the technological capacity" for such activities, opposition congressman Luis Diaz said.

-Dead man walking

687 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:38:01am

re: #663 jcm Not to mention that during the early to mid 30's communists weren't the big fear factor that they (rightfully) are now.

688 J.S.  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:38:24am

re: #680 Mad Al-Jaffee

Pakistanis fleeing the Taliban in the Swaat valley to another area of Pakistan don't strike me as "refugees" but as "internally displaced persons." (unless, of course, they're all headed to Afghanistan.)

689 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:38:54am

re: #665 jcm Why do some folks always answer a question with a question?

690 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:39:12am

re: #689 realwest

Why do some folks always answer a question with a question?

They do?

691 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:39:18am

re: #662 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So the dead can testify as well as vote in Chicago?

Also in Chicago, the Dead Can Dance.

692 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:39:24am

re: #686 Eowyn2

"This is a grave error because we don't have the technological capacity" for such activities, opposition congressman Luis Diaz said.

-Dead man walking

Man, I hate commies.

693 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:39:47am

re: #688 J.S.

Pakistanis fleeing the Taliban in the Swaat valley to another area of Pakistan don't strike me as "refugees" but as "internally displaced persons." (unless, of course, they're all headed to Afghanistan.)

Yes, that's what they are,if they stay in Pakistan. They're like refugees in their own country.

And Tom Petty says they don't have to live like that.

694 Eowyn2  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:40:14am

re: #636 Kosh's Shadow

My daughter dressed He-Man in Barbie's clothes.

I also had little green army guy 'rubberband' wars with the bro. he was better at that than I was.

695 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:40:18am

re: #675 yma o hyd
Good morning {yma}! Other than braving the wind, how are ya today?

696 lawhawk  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:41:05am

re: #657 KenJen

Many of the Taliban fighting are aligned with Baitullah Mehsud, but there are foreign fighters involved, particularly because Mehsud has harbored al Qaeda in the past. Ditto for the other Taliban groups operating against the Pakistani government.

Mehsud differs from many of the other Taliban thugs in that he's trained and leading guys who are better trained and prepared to fight against organized military forces than other Taliban. He's managed to hold off the Pakistani paramilitary forces for months, and repeatedly killed and captured Pakistani forces whenever they enter the frontier provinces.

697 Spartacus50  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:41:29am

I listened to Glenn Beck while driving into work this morning. He was advocating the creation of a libertarian 3rd party

698 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:41:29am

re: #648 Honorary Yooper

Yep, arrested at a fairly busy street corner, Weber Road and Lily Cache Lane (aka 107th Street). They pulled his car over there and arrested him on the spot. All through this investigation, Peterson's been full of smarmy comments like the above. Here's some pictures courtesy of our local paper.

Nightline did a segment about it last night, and ran a clip from a previous show a couple of years ago. In the segment, Peterson and the reporter drove past the home (it was winter, with snow on the ground) where he and Savio lived. When asked about Savio dying, Peterson made come offhand comment (paraphrasing here), "Well, what you do? Ya gotta get on with your life". What a POS he is.

699 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:41:49am

re: #683 jcm

re: #673 Ward Cleaver

See my #685 for why. There's also unsigned interstates in Alaska and Puerto Rico.

700 Eowyn2  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:42:00am

re: #688 J.S.

Pakistanis fleeing the Taliban in the Swaat valley to another area of Pakistan don't strike me as "refugees" but as "internally displaced persons." (unless, of course, they're all headed to Afghanistan.)

It's possible that the labeling of displaced persons as 'refugees' allows for more UN funds.

701 yma o hyd  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:42:07am

Last week, we talked briefly about the new israeli ambassador to the USA< Michael oren.

Well, I thereupon got his book Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East - I highly recommend it.

It makes eye-popping reading ...
Did you know that, had it not been for Pres Truman, there wouldn't have been an Israel, because - Foggy Bottom was against it!
Did you know that the disgusting comaprison 'Zionism = Nazism' was first used by none other than the Ambassador of the Soviet Union at the UN, in 1967?
Did you know that all the US ambassadors in the ME countries surrounding Israel in 1967 said that Pres Johnson ought not to supprot Israel in any way, because it would damage the standing of the US int he ME?

I, for one, had no idea ... and I had no idea how dreadfully familiar all the 'arguments' of the various Arab countries were.
Nothing has changed in all that time - nothing!

Get the book ... !

702 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:42:36am

re: #697 Spartacus50

I listened to Glenn Beck while driving into work this morning. He was advocating the creation of a libertarian 3rd party

There is - it's called The Libertarian Party.

703 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:42:43am

re: #690 MrSilverDragon
You never heard that before?

704 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:44:10am

re: #701 yma o hyd

Ditto. I hope he writes some more books on the Arab-Israeli Wars. I can't find a decent book on the 1982 Lebanon War that isn't sympathetic to the Palis.

705 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:44:14am

re: #702 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

There is - it's called The Libertarian Party.

I have a lot of libertarian leanings, but Libertarian Party loses me for a lot of reasons.

706 yma o hyd  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:44:18am

re: #695 realwest

Good morning {yma}! Other than braving the wind, how are ya today?

Hiya, {rw}!
Sneezing!

Was going to plant up some stuff in the garden, but its really dreadful out there, so I'll do it tomorrow.

Hope you're ok, and the hayfever and all are abating for you!

707 Eowyn2  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:44:21am

re: #692 ilzito guacamolito

Man, I hate commies.

Nothing quite like a South American Dictator is there? Unless you count the Mid-African Dictators.

708 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:44:26am

re: #703 realwest

You never heard that before?

I capitulate to this game of questions. :)

709 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:44:34am

re: #645 Mad Al-Jaffee

Good morning everyone. Does Afrocity Brown still post here? Haven't seen her in a while, except on Facebook.

I was wondering about Scottish Buzzsaw - haven't seen her in a long time.

710 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:45:24am

In occupied France

Our friend Fern Oppenheim points us to the video of Israel haters scouring a French supermarket to remove Israeli products from the shelf. There isn't a manager in sight. All the shoppers go about their business like it is 1942 Vichy France. The video was apparently shot in the northeastern suburbs of Paris that gained attention as the scene of the mysterious French "youth" riots of 2005.

UPDATE: Reader Martin Adamson picks up on the video's self-identified provenance:

This video is even more grotesque than you think. It was shot in a suburb of Paris called Aulnay-sous-Bois. The next-door town to Aulnay is called Drancy, about one mile away. Drancy was used by the Nazis between 1942-1944 as a deportation holding camp for the Jews of Paris prior to the deportation to the extermination camps in eastern Europe. Sixty-five thoursand Jews passed through Drancy, of whom 63,000 were killed. In other words, the Israeli boycotters have chosen, of all the supermarkets in France, the one closest to France's most important Holocaust memorial site. Look on Google Maps to see how close they are.
711 quickjustice  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:45:25am

re: #702 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

There's a Libertarian Party in NY. I attended one of their meetings a couple of years ago. A forty-five minute lecture on the libertarian philosophers of 19th century Europe. I got up and walked out.

712 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:45:42am

re: #698 Ward Cleaver

Nightline did a segment about it last night, and ran a clip from a previous show a couple of years ago. In the segment, Peterson and the reporter drove past the home (it was winter, with snow on the ground) where he and Savio lived. When asked about Savio dying, Peterson made come offhand comment (paraphrasing here), "Well, what you do? Ya gotta get on with your life". What a POS he is.

What you won't see reported anywhere, but is strongly suspected by local residents is that the mayor of Bolingbrook may have had something to do with the declaration od her death as an accident. That mayor is on our state's attorney's and Peter Fitzgerald's hit lists for his corruption.

713 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:45:58am

re: #711 quickjustice

There's a Libertarian Party in NY. I attended one of their meetings a couple of years ago. A forty-five minute lecture on the libertarian philosophers of 19th century Europe. I got up and walked out.

At least it wasn't Ron Paul.

714 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:46:27am

re: #709 Miss Trixie

I was wondering about Scottish Buzzsaw - haven't seen her in a long time.

It seems we haven't heard from a lot of long timers lately - Dirk Diggler, Peacekeeper, Mama Winger, to name a few.

715 Eowyn2  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:47:10am

my system crashed yesterday so I now have to go pull all work that I did yesterday and redo it. Wish me luck

716 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:47:14am

Pope expresses respect for Islam in Jordan

Pope Benedict XVI expressed deep respect for Islam Friday and said he hopes the Catholic Church can play a role in Mideast peace as he began his first trip to the region, where he hopes to improve frayed ties with Muslims.

The pope was met at the airport by Jordan's King Abdullah and praised the moderate Arab country as a leader in efforts to promote peace in the region and dialogue between Christians and Muslims.
...
The pope has already said he was "deeply sorry" over the reaction to his speech and that the passage he quoted did not reflect his own opinion.
...
Jordan's king praised the pope and said the world must reject "ambitious ideologies of division."

"We welcome your commitment to dispel the misconceptions and divisions that have harmed relations between Christians and Muslims," said Abdullah.

No comment.

717 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:47:24am

re: #714 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It seems we haven't heard from a lot of long timers lately - Dirk Diggler, Peacekeeper, Mama Winger, to name a few.

They're all missing and it's BUSH'S FAULT!

718 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:47:26am

re: #706 yma o hyd
Oh, yeah except for yesterday (which was sunny and warm) the hayfever and allergies are way down cause all we've had the rest of this week and are forecasted to have through next Monday are Horrific Thunderstorms and lightning and maybe a few tornadoes thrown in as well!
Saw a house just a half a mile from here that had been burned almost to the ground by a lightning strike!

719 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:47:38am

re: #701 yma o hyd

Did you know that all the US ambassadors in the ME countries surrounding Israel in 1967 said that Pres Johnson ought not to supprot Israel in any way

That particular sterling tradition lives on to this day.

720 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:48:20am

re: #717 Mad Al-Jaffee

They're all missing and it's BUSH'S FAULT!

No, they've been disappeared to secret FEMA camps - it's OBAMA'S FAULT!
/

721 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:48:27am

re: #708 MrSilverDragon
Why?!
:)

722 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:50:06am

re: #718 realwest

Horrific Thunderstorms and lightning

Very, very frightening
Galileo, Galileo!

723 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:50:10am

re: #720 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

No, they've been disappeared to secret FEMA camps - it's OBAMA'S FAULT!
/

They must have found his real, Muslim terrorist nirth certificate!

724 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:50:25am

re: #705 jcm

I have a lot of libertarian leanings, but Libertarian Party loses me for a lot of reasons.

Hugh Hewitt calls them the "Losertarians".

725 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:50:25am

re: #714 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Well I think mama winger was banned, but don't know about Peacekeeper or loppyd or christheprofessor or newsjunkie_ky or Dirk for that matter.

726 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:50:29am

re: #721 realwest

Why?!
:)

Because I haven't had my caffeine transfusion yet, so I'm assured to lose until such time. ;)

727 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:51:12am

re: #714 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It seems we haven't heard from a lot of long timers lately - Dirk Diggler, Peacekeeper, Mama Winger, to name a few.

Did Mama Winger get the stick? I don't quite recall.

728 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:51:14am

re: #722 Occasional Reader

Very, very frightening
Galileo, Galileo!

Mamma Mia Mamma Mia!

/uh oh, now i'm thinking of wayne's world

729 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:51:38am

re: #719 Occasional Reader

That particular sterling tradition lives on to this day.

State has been anti-semtic for a long time.

During FDR they turned away Jewish refugees from Europe, and dismissed the Wansee Protocol documents as forgeries. Most of it at that time center around Breckinridge Long, is legacy and influence are still felt at State.

730 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:51:47am

re: #727 Occasional Reader

Did Mama Winger get the stick? I don't quite recall.

I didn't think so. She did get a timeout for awhile, though.

731 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:51:51am

re: #727 Occasional Reader

Did Mama Winger get the stick? I don't quite recall.

yes...CtheP is still around a bit

732 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:51:53am

PETA activists ask people to turn vegetarian to avoid swine flu

Mumbai, May 8 (ANI): Activists of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) staged a roadside campaign in Mumbai on Thursday to propagate vegetarianism following threats of swine flu.

The highlights of this campaign were activists dressed like a pig and nurses holding placards, which read ‘Prescription For Swine Flu, Go Vegetarian’.

They contended that abstaining from consumption of pork can curb the menace of swine flu.

LOL

733 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:52:07am

re: #728 Ward Cleaver

Mamma Mia Mamma Mia!

/uh oh, now i'm thinking of wayne's world

Last night's episode of 30 Rock was called "Mama Mia."

734 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:52:18am

re: #724 Ward Cleaver

Hugh Hewitt calls them the "Losertarians".

So does Medved.

735 yma o hyd  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:52:22am

re: #718 realwest

Oh, yeah except for yesterday (which was sunny and warm) the hayfever and allergies are way down cause all we've had the rest of this week and are forecasted to have through next Monday are Horrific Thunderstorms and lightning and maybe a few tornadoes thrown in as well!
Saw a house just a half a mile from here that had been burned almost to the ground by a lightning strike!

Blimey!
Thats sounds terrifying, and horrendous.
Madame absolutely hates thunderstorms - thankfully the ones we get are not that bad.
Pity we still don't ahve some nice rain, coming in from the Atlantic, to get rid of all the pollen. Hopefully it'll happen on Monday ...

736 J.S.  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:52:23am

Speaking of murders, there's currently a trial underway in Canada...and, it's an "honour killing" (yeah, that's PC talk for the vicious premeditated murder of women/girls). Apparently, the brother decided that he had to murder his sister (after all she was seeing a fellow and hadn't asked dear dad's permission, hence, the brother's deranged belief that that suddenly bestowed upon him the "right", the "duty", to murder his sister.) So, he apparently shot his sister and her boy friend as the two of them were sitting in a car in a parking lot. Now, the problem. The defense has decided not to contest the fact that the brother murdered two people, rather the defense has decided to claim that the defendant is not guilty of murder "because he was provoked." Yeah, sitting in a car in a parking lot is definitely "provocation." In this way, the defense hopes to reduce the murder charge to manslaughter. (I wonder where all the feminists in Canada are -- are will they all be applauding such developments? since they so love terrorists and Islamists, and by extension these poor, dear fellows who are sooo provoked by females. And, I would not at all doubt that this murderer walks -- or gets 2 months less a day in jail.)

737 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:52:32am

re: #705 jcm

I have a lot of libertarian leanings, but Libertarian Party loses me for a lot of reasons.

Too isolationist, for one thing, and they take their libertarianism just too damn far, for another. (E.g., opposing controls on pollution... guys, that's a classic "tragedy of the commons" scenario, we NEED government for that sort of thing.)

738 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:52:54am

re: #728 Ward Cleaver

Mamma Mia Mamma Mia!

/uh oh, now i'm thinking of wayne's world


To the Garthmobile!

739 J.S.  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:53:11am

re: #700 Eowyn2

And, also will, no doubt, allow them entrance to Canaduh as "refugees."

740 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:53:40am

re: #722 Occasional Reader
Figaro!
As I said, aside from the usual power outtages we always get, houses do get hit by lightning down here with a distressing degree of frequency! Glad we don't live in the top floor of our three story wooden apartment house!

741 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:53:51am
742 Miss Trixie  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:53:51am

re: #718 realwest

Oh, yeah except for yesterday (which was sunny and warm) the hayfever and allergies are way down cause all we've had the rest of this week and are forecasted to have through next Monday are Horrific Thunderstorms and lightning and maybe a few tornadoes thrown in as well!
Saw a house just a half a mile from here that had been burned almost to the ground by a lightning strike!

*hair stands up on the nape of my dainty neck*

Jebus! =O

743 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:54:11am

re: #723 Mad Al-Jaffee

They must have found his real, Muslim terrorist nirth certificate!

Jerome Corsi hid it in his shoe, before he got kicked out of Kenya.

/

744 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:54:12am

re: #732 njdhockeyfan

PETA activists ask people to turn vegetarian to avoid swine flu

LOL

Trade in swine flu for Tofluenza? I don't think so!

745 yma o hyd  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:54:13am

re: #719 Occasional Reader

That particular sterling tradition lives on to this day.

Indeed - and it seems to have a very long tradition indeed.
At least we can be sure that Michael Oren is fully aware of that fact, and won't be taken in by smooth talking while the daggers are poised to strike Israel's back.

746 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:54:19am

re: #719 Occasional Reader

That particular sterling tradition lives on to this day.

Only now the administration is listening to the Israel-hating diplomats.

747 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:55:20am

re: #740 realwest

Figaro!
As I said, aside from the usual power outtages we always get, houses do get hit by lightning down here with a distressing degree of frequency! Glad we don't live in the top floor of our three story wooden apartment house!

Clearly, God hates North Carolinians.

Stay safe, and, er, non-conductive!

748 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:55:25am

re: #730 Ward Cleaver
Well she got the stick, then Charles said ok you can come back and she did and got the stick again in a few months, iirc.

749 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:56:00am

re: #732 njdhockeyfan

Considering that legumes, sprouts and even spinach have recently been found to be contaminated, I suggest that the PETA people stop eating vegetables.

750 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:56:24am

re: #748 realwest

Well she got the stick, then Charles said ok you can come back and she did and got the stick again in a few months, iirc.

I remember her coming back from a timeout, but didn't know she was gone for good.

751 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:56:48am

re: #744 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Trade in swine flu for Tofluenza? I don't think so!

Not to mention soypox...

752 yma o hyd  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:56:50am

re: #729 jcm

State has been anti-semtic for a long time.

During FDR they turned away Jewish refugees from Europe, and dismissed the Wansee Protocol documents as forgeries. Most of it at that time center around Breckinridge Long, is legacy and influence are still felt at State.

Gah - now my jaw really hit the floor!
That is nearly 70 years - how on earth is it possible for this 'tradition' to keep going for so long, in spite of (some) presidential policies?

And why hasn't the Zionist Conspiracy done anything about it? ///

753 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:56:50am

re: #732 njdhockeyfan

PETA activists ask people to turn vegetarian to avoid swine flu

LOL

Sorry, PETA. I'm not giving up my carnivorous streak for your misguided stupidity.

754 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:57:03am

re: #749 Lincolntf

Considering that legumes, sprouts and even spinach have recently been found to be contaminated, I suggest that the PETA people stop eating vegetables.

Yeah, remember the organic spinach?

755 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:57:36am

re: #753 MrSilverDragon

Sorry, PETA. I'm not giving up my carnivorous streak for your misguided stupidity.

I love animals. They taste like meat.

756 yma o hyd  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:57:53am

re: #732 njdhockeyfan

PETA activists ask people to turn vegetarian to avoid swine flu

LOL

Not exactly blessed with a hint of scientific knowledge, PETA isn't ...!

757 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:58:01am

re: #754 Ward Cleaver

Yup.

758 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:58:04am

re: #747 Occasional Reader
Well not as much as He hate Californians! At least we don't have earthquakes or enormous fires!
And how'm I supposed to play Bernstein or Copland without my baton, huh?!

759 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:58:39am

re: #752 yma o hyd

Gah - now my jaw really hit the floor!
That is nearly 70 years - how on earth is it possible for this 'tradition' to keep going for so long, in spite of (some) presidential policies?

And why hasn't the Zionist Conspiracy done anything about it? ///

I think they have alien pods in the basement. Normal people go in and are replaced by Jew-hating pods.
It can take a while for some secretaries of state, but eventually they're all replaced.
///It's a joke, son.

760 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:58:46am

re: #750 Ward Cleaver

I remember her coming back from a timeout, but didn't know she was gone for good.

I just don't get it, what is it about Creation and Evolution that turns otherwise normal, pleasant people into frothing maniacs? I mean, it's not even something that you can do anything about, or that has a major impact on your life.

761 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:59:02am

I AM BACK/// Hello Lizards. Hope everyone is well.

762 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:59:33am

Be Earth Friendly
Eat Soylent Green

763 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:59:34am

re: #756 yma o hyd

Not exactly blessed with a hint of scientific knowledge, PETA isn't ...!

Penn and Teller had a terrific segment about PETA in their series 'Bullshit!'.

764 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:59:38am

re: #753 MrSilverDragon

You have carnivorous steak?!?that must make dinner quite interesting...but a great way to work off calories!(Ducks and runs...)

765 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 7:59:55am

re: #760 Alouette

I just don't get it, what is it about Creation and Evolution that turns otherwise normal, pleasant people into frothing maniacs? I mean, it's not even something that you can do anything about, or that has a major impact on your life.

it's about being right

766 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:00:00am

re: #761 Erik The Red

I AM BACK/// Hello Lizards. Hope everyone is well.

I'm confused... are you really back? The "/" threw me off...

Welcome back. :)

767 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:00:01am

re: #762 DaddyG

Be Earth Friendly
Eat Become Soylent Green


FTFY

768 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:00:27am

re: #756 yma o hyd

Not exactly blessed with a hint of scientific knowledge, PETA isn't ...!

That reminds me, I may bring home KFC tonight. I hope the PETA protesters are there this afternoon so I can wave a chicken leg at them.

769 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:00:33am

re: #752 yma o hyd

That is nearly 70 years - how on earth is it possible for this 'tradition' to keep going for so long

At least part of the answer - why current and former US diplomatic corps members who have served in Arab countries tend to reflexively suck up to Arab despots - can be expressed musically.

"You're funding my 'Center for Middle East Policy Research' with HOW much, Sheikh Yermanimaker? Why, of COURSE I agree with everything you say!"

770 Spartacus50  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:00:38am

re: #702 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

There is - it's called The Libertarian Party.

As if they weren't marginalized enough

771 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:00:43am

re: #767 Kosh's Shadow The ultimate recycling program... heh.

772 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:00:43am

re: #760 Alouette

I just don't get it, what is it about Creation and Evolution that turns otherwise normal, pleasant people into frothing maniacs? I mean, it's not even something that you can do anything about, or that has a major impact on your life.

IIRC mama winger got the stick for calling for the destruction/killing of a mass of people. Nothing to do with ID.

773 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:00:53am

Stormfront thread...
Over 500 Tea Parties already planned for July 4

Bring your signs! Bring your kids!
...
Another poster talking about this 2 weeks or so ago, said he believed there will be a much more militant feel to the July 4th Tea Parties. I really don't doubt it. The government completely ignored the last tea parties, and that certainly did not go over well with the majority of people who attended them. Obama even publicly insulted them. This are about to get crazy...
...
I'll seriously think about forming one.
We need to organize and have material to hand out!
...
So, is anyone planning to distribute WN (White Nationalist - ed) material at these Tea Parties, or just planning to be another face in the crowd?
I don't know about the rest of you, but this opportunity will be too good for me to pass up.
...

Great news, I will be ready with a Gadsen Flag and some anti Israel signs.
...
I also agree that spreading the WN message at these events is a good idea-it's time already,we've gotta do it!Carefully,of course.
...
I am planning on leafletting but I strongly recommend that any leaflets are not Overtly WN.

We can get the message out about Israel running our government without falling back on the word Jews. We can get the word out about illegal alien invaders Without saying one word about WN. We can let people know that we are concerned for the future of our country without using the word 'white'


...etc...etc
There are pages and pages or similar comments.

774 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:01:05am

re: #737 Occasional Reader

Too isolationist, for one thing, and they take their libertarianism just too damn far, for another. (E.g., opposing controls on pollution... guys, that's a classic "tragedy of the commons" scenario, we NEED government for that sort of thing.)

I depart on drug policy also, I might agree to loosening marijuana laws, but as a foster parent I deal constantly with the victims of drug use.

775 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:01:14am

re: #747 Occasional Reader
And certainly not as much as He hates residents of Washington D.C. - y'all got CONGRESS and THE WHITE HOUSE!
OY!
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.
.
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."repartee is something I usually think of the next day!" Mark Twain

776 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:01:29am

re: #758 realwest

And how'm I supposed to play Bernstein or Copland without my baton, huh?!

Hey, Bernstein and Copland frequently played "hide the baton" with each other, and it didn't stop them, did it?

777 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:02:08am

I didn't get a chance to post this in the Biden Onion story thread. The Onion does ridicule the lset and right, Dem and Republicans, but its sister site, The AV Club, is very left wing. It's too bad, because it's a site I regularly read for pop culture and music reviews/discussions.

778 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:02:23am

re: #764 Boondock St. Bender

You have carnivorous steak?!?that must make dinner quite interesting...but a great way to work off calories!(Ducks and runs...)

That reminded me of a quote I heard years ago, but I have no idea who to attribute it... "I'm going to leave this world the same way I came in... naked, screaming, and covered in blood."

Some days I should leave the filing cabinet in my brain closed.

779 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:02:28am

re: #773 Killgore Trout

Still getting all your info. from Nazi websites? It shows.

780 aggieann  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:02:53am

re: #754 Ward Cleaver

Yeah, remember the organic spinach?

And the unpasteurized apple juice? Sheesh!

781 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:03:10am

re: #773 Killgore Trout


Maybe a flier with the web site address to Patrick Buchanan's blog would be good. Or perhaps V-dare, or the Occidental Observer.

Actually, this may sound strange, but I was thinking that an event like this might be a good way to also spread awareness about Nationalist movements in other countries. For example, a flier with some simple info about the British Nationalist Party could be passed out. The BNP is big on combating Islamic immigration, and I think that's something that most neo-cons and unaware White conservatives here in the US can immediately resonate with. If such a flier had a website to the BNP, that could capture their interest enough to get them to start reading online - and eventually lead them to start exploring WN.


So it goes.

782 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:03:13am

re: #780 aggieann

And the unpasteurized apple juice? Sheesh!

Isn't that called "hard cider"?

783 yma o hyd  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:03:25am

Thought you'd like this report:
Barack Obama to walk in footsteps of uncle who helped free Buchenwald - they mention PB0's 'uncle'-gaffes and how it was debunked by republican bloggers ...!

784 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:03:54am

re: #776 Occasional Reader
Hey, Bernstein and Copland frequently played "hide the baton" with each other, and it didn't stop them, did it?
Y'all forgot to add "NTTAWWT"!
Just sayin...!

785 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:04:09am

re: #775 realwest

."repartee is something I usually think of the next day!" Mark Twain

The French actually have a great term for that phenomenon: "esprit d'escalier", or "staircase wit". That is, the clever comeback that you think of... as you're descending the staircase, after leaving the dinner party, where it would have actually done you some good.

786 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:04:23am

re: #780 aggieann

I was working as a produce kid at a supermarket during the "Alar" apple scare. What a clusterf--k that was.

787 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:04:28am

re: #773 Killgore Trout Good heavens these nazinutters and white supremacists are like remoras latching on to any good cause. I despise the way they wrap themselves in the cloak of patriotism. It just lends credence to the Moonbats and race baiters.

Of course the MSM is more than happy to present the parasites as the main event.

I've always thought of myself as more conservative than moderate but wow!

788 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:05:10am

re: #780 aggieann

And the unpasteurized apple juice? Sheesh!

Killing germs is bad, m'kay?
/

789 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:05:38am

Muslim Man Loses Ruling Over Terrorism Search

(CN) - A Muslim man in Virginia lost his bid to revive a lawsuit accusing federal agents of illegally raiding his house for evidence that he supported international terrorism.

The 4th Circuit affirmed dismissal of constitutional claims brought by Iqbal Unus, his wife and one of his daughters.

After the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the Treasury Department established "Operation Green Quest," a task force assigned with investigating domestic players suspected of aiding terrorists through corporate and nonprofit fronts.

In 2001, Green Quest began investigating a purported international terrorist network in Virginia. According to affidavits, the task force suspected that a "web of companies and charities controlled by these individuals," led by "Middle Eastern nationals living in Northern Virginia" were conspiring with terrorists.

In March 2002, 11 federal agents and three local police officers executed a search warrant at the home of Unus and his family.

Seething response from CAIR in 5...4...3...2...

790 Russkilitlover  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:06:13am

re: #736 J.S.

Keep us posted on the trial's development. That is a horrible premediated double murder (OJ style and we all saw how THAT went down). If crimes committed under the guise of a different set of laws (sharia) are sentenced differently in a country's courts, we are truly f*cked!

791 irongrampa  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:06:20am

re: #779 Lincolntf

Disregard him in this instance. Word is already out about the attempted co-opting by stormfront. They'll get no traction here, mostly due to the pitiful numbers they put up. Trust me on this.

792 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:06:57am

re: #786 Lincolntf

I was working as a produce kid at a supermarket during the "Alar" apple scare. What a clusterf--k that was.

"Alar" whacked the WA Apple market, for billions for 3-5 years after.

I was in school during that we got the NRDC report. For a human to get an equivalent dosage they gave the rats, you would have to eat 30,000 lbs of apples a day, or drink Alar straight, a lot of it.

793 Erik The Red  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:07:52am

re: #787 DaddyG

Good heavens these nazinutters and white supremacists are like remoras latching on to any good cause. I despise the way they wrap themselves in the cloak of patriotism. It just lends credence to the Moonbats and race baiters.

Of course the MSM is more than happy to present the parasites as the main event.

I've always thought of myself as more conservative than moderate but wow!

It is the MFM. The left nutters are left alone and never linked to the "sane" left. But the right nutters are seen as representative of us conservatives. FUCK THE MFM.

794 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:07:53am

re: #780 aggieann

And the unpasteurized apple juice? Sheesh!

Fresh squeesh apple cider straight out of the orchard!

Best stuff there is. But it don't last long.

795 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:08:14am

re: #773 Killgore Trout

Stormfront thread...
Over 500 Tea Parties already planned for July 4


...etc...etc
There are pages and pages or similar comments.

Killgore, you do realize that your patented method for "proving" that the Tea Parties are all neo-Nazi events is a textbook case of "selection bias", right?

796 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:08:49am

re: #791 irongrampa

I'm aware. I went to my local Tea Party and it was exactly the opposite of what is being portrayed by the Nazi's and their willing counterparts. Screw 'em. As long as all the screaming weenies and paranoids stay on the Internet, the Tea Parties will continue without their interference in the real world.

797 nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:08:58am

U.S. Government Funds $400,000 Study on Gay Sex in Argentina Bars
The National Institutes of Health are paying researchers to cruise bars in Buenos Aires to find out why gay men engage in risky sexual behavior while drunk -- and what can be done about it.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Who is doing the reasearch, Barney Frank?

798 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:09:00am

re: #732 njdhockeyfan

I mentioned in another discussion that when I was getting my hair cut the college kid next to me told his barber he's not eating pork until the swine flu scare is over. I had to explain to him that it's a virus that's not transmitted through food. I bet he was a biology major. :)

799 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:09:03am

re: #794 jcm

Fresh squeesh apple cider straight out of the orchard!

Best stuff there is. But it don't last long.

together with a fresh warm donut...mmm...good memories of back home in the fall

800 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:09:15am

re: #794 jcm

Fresh squeesh apple cider straight out of the orchard!

Best stuff there is. But it don't last long.

That is true. I think there is no better GI stimulant than cider.

801 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:09:40am

Charles - is there any way to add Moonbat to the spellchecker dictionary? No reason to have to keep clicking ignore. :-D

802 nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:09:41am

re: #798 Mad Al-Jaffee

I mentioned in another discussion that when I was getting my hair cut the college kid next to me told his barber he's not eating pork until the swine flu scare is over. I had to explain to him that it's a virus that's not transmitted through food. I bet he was a biology major. :)

Or pre-law?

803 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:09:56am

re: #793 Erik The Red

It is the MFM. The left nutters are left alone and never linked to the "sane" left. But the right nutters are seen as representative of us conservatives. FUCK THE MFM.

A few posters here seem to think the same thing.

804 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:10:00am

re: #794 jcm

Fresh squeesh apple cider straight out of the orchard!

Best stuff there is. But it don't last long.

It's better when it's fermented.

805 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:10:06am

re: #787 DaddyG

It's very interesting reading their strategies. They are interested in using the Tea Parties to mainstream themselves. The BNP seems to be thier role model. There's also a lot of talk about distributing "transitional" material at the Tea Parties; stuff that doesn't appear racist but gets people involved in the White Nationalist movement. It's very interesting. Sadly, the Tea Party crowd doesn't seem interested in getting rid of them so they might actually be pretty successful.

806 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:10:23am

re: #799 albusteve

together with a fresh warm donut...mmm...good memories of back home in the fall

Cider party; BBQ going and pick the last of the apples, use a old style cider press and make cider!

807 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:10:36am

re: #800 ilzito guacamolito

That is true. I think there is no better GI stimulant than cider.

True, drunk soldiers do fight better.
/

808 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:10:46am

re: #800 ilzito guacamolito

That is true. I think there is no better GI stimulant than cider.

I thought GIs were usually stimulated by calls of "me love you longtime"?

809 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:11:03am

re: #804 Mad Al-Jaffee

It's better when it's fermented.

Hard cider!

Whoopie!

810 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:11:24am

re: #801 DaddyG

Charles - is there any way to add Moonbat to the spellchecker dictionary? No reason to have to keep clicking ignore. :-D

Obama is also not in the dictionary. Would that we could just ignore him!

811 nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:11:48am

re: #807 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

True, drunk soldiers do fight better.
/

Yeah maybe each other, but not the enemy?

812 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:12:05am

re: #768 njdhockeyfan

That reminds me, I may bring home KFC tonight. I hope the PETA protesters are there this afternoon so I can wave a chicken leg at them.

Are you gonna try the grilled? I'd like to hear from someone whether it's any good.

813 lawhawk  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:12:38am

re: #788 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Killing germs is bad, m'kay?
/

It's genocide, I tell you. It's the purposeful annihilation of another group. They have rights! /extreme sarc, although PETA would likely pick up on this eventually.

814 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:12:42am

re: #809 jcm

Hard cider!

Whoopie!

Side her? Never even met her!

815 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:13:03am

re: #807 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

True, drunk soldiers do fight better.
/

The Germans are champion beer-drinkers.

The Germans twice overran Europe.

Coincidence? I think not.

816 Lincolntf  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:13:15am

re: #805 Killgore Trout

It's obvious that you know that the "Stormfront" garbage is garbage, but you studiously repeat all of their claims anyway. You're being deliberately deceptive for your own reasons. Everyone at LGF who went to a Tea Party has told you that you are 100% wrong, but you choose to believe the Internet Nazi's.
That says a lot more about you than it does about the Tea Parties.

817 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:13:20am

It seems that some of the SF Bay area organizers may be White Nationalists.

818 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:13:23am

re: #807 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

True, drunk soldiers do fight better.
/

HA!

re: #808 Occasional Reader

I thought GIs were usually stimulated by calls of "me love you longtime"?

What about the saltpeter?

819 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:13:24am

re: #806 jcm

Cider party; BBQ going and pick the last of the apples, use a old style cider press and make cider!

yep...we used to watch them press it then hand it out for free at the U Pick orchard down the road...always alot of old timey fun

820 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:13:30am

re: #814 Mad Al-Jaffee

Side her? Never even met her!

Dickens Cider?

/

821 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:13:59am

re: #816 Lincolntf

If you don't like it you can scroll over or go to another blog.

822 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:14:25am

re: #805 Killgore Trout They have had limited success taking over small churches and using them as a mainstreaming device. From what I've seen and heard reported (albeit with bias) they seem to talk a bigger game on line than they actually turn out at the rallys. I suspect the party organizers would be more concerned if they actually drew a larger crowd of the nutcases. As it is the ratio of Nazis to tax protesters seems much lower than the ration of communist organizers to vegitarians at the average animal rights protest.

823 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:14:26am

re: #820 Ward Cleaver

Dickens Cider?

/

There's a biker bar outside of Baltimore called "Dick's Halfway Inn."

824 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:14:49am

re: #812 Ward Cleaver

Are you gonna try the grilled? I'd like to hear from someone whether it's any good.

I thought the grilled was okay... but nothing beats the extra-crispy fried chicken... except maybe Popeye's version (when it comes to fast food versions... homemade is by far the best!)

825 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:14:50am

re: #815 Occasional Reader

The Germans are champion beer-drinkers.

The Germans twice overran Europe.

Coincidence? I think not.

two bad hangovers tho

826 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:14:50am

re: #817 Killgore Trout

It seems that some of the SF Bay area organizers may be White Nationalists.

Organizers of what? The Fulton Street Fair? Up Your Alley?

/

827 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:14:51am

re: #797 nevergiveup

U.S. Government Funds $400,000 Study on Gay Sex in Argentina Bars
The National Institutes of Health are paying researchers to cruise bars in Buenos Aires to find out why gay men engage in risky sexual behavior while drunk -- and what can be done about it.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Who is doing the reasearch, Barney Frank?

Uh - wasn't 0 just yesterday claiming to be looking for places to save money? And stating that every little bit helps?

Or, I could just give them the answer, and they could apply it to straight bars as well: it's the alcohol.

Pay me.

828 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:15:06am

re: #823 Mad Al-Jaffee

There's a biker bar outside of Baltimore called "Dick's Halfway Inn."

ROFL!

829 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:15:14am

re: #815 Occasional Reader

The Germans are champion beer-drinkers.

The Germans twice overran Europe.

Coincidence? I think not.

They twice overran the French, who are champion wine drinkers. Then twice beaten by the Americans & British, also champion beer drinkers. Conclusion? Beer is better than wine.

And the Arabs, who don't drink, never win any wars.

830 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:15:20am

re: #823 Mad Al-Jaffee

There's a biker bar outside of Baltimore called "Dick's Halfway Inn."


Do they offer liquor in the front and poker in the rear?

831 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:15:26am

re: #797 nevergiveup

U.S. Government Funds $400,000 Study on Gay Sex in Argentina Bars
The National Institutes of Health are paying researchers to cruise bars in Buenos Aires to find out why gay men engage in risky sexual behavior while drunk -- and what can be done about it.

Murphy's @#%#@$ng Law. Of COURSE this story comes out the day after I mention on a thread that I have an upcoming trip to Argentina.

Go ahead, wisenheimers, knock yourselves out...

832 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:15:52am

Stormfront even started their own social networking site for the Tea Parties...
Tea Party Americans Coalition

Group Maintained by Whites Forward

This is a working group for serious White racialist ACTIVISTS in the US who want to effectively coordinate our efforts and intervene for effect in Tea Party-type events.


Interesting.

833 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:15:57am

re: #825 albusteve

two bad hangovers tho

Especially after the first one. Then the "wet brain" caused the second one.

834 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:16:21am

re: #830 ilzito guacamolito

Do they offer liquor in the front and poker in the rear?

Oh man!

835 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:16:35am

re: #830 ilzito guacamolito

Do they offer liquor in the front and poker in the rear?

Yeah, and cock fighting!

836 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:16:45am

re: #827 SixDegrees

Uh - wasn't 0 just yesterday claiming to be looking for places to save money? And stating that every little bit helps?

Or, I could just give them the answer, and they could apply it to straight bars as well: it's the alcohol.

Pay me.

Your hypothesis requires another study, and peer review. I need a $1.2 million grant to follow up.

837 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:16:47am

re: #834 Ward Cleaver

Oh man!

Sorry! Old joke.

838 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:17:40am

re: #837 ilzito guacamolito

Sorry! Old joke.

That's okay, I like hearing old ones that I haven't heard before.

839 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:17:44am

re: #831 Occasional Reader

Murphy's @#%#@$ng Law. Of COURSE this story comes out the day after I mention on a thread that I have an upcoming trip to Argentina.

Go ahead, wisenheimers, knock yourselves out...

Don't forget to pack a towel.

(What? It was a Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy reference).

840 J.D.  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:17:57am

re: #837 ilzito guacamolito

Sorry! Old joke.

I never heard it before, therefore I am not old.

Hey... it follows...

841 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:18:24am

re: #826 Ward Cleaver

Organizers of what? The Fulton Street Fair? Up Your Alley?

/

I suppose it makes sense... they could march through either one of those events in full Nazi regalia, and be considered just part of the scenery.

842 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:18:27am

re: #832 Killgore Trout

Stormfront even started their own social networking site for the Tea Parties...
Tea Party Americans Coalition


Interesting.


Like I said above. Remoras attaching themselves to a host.

843 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:18:52am

re: #805 Killgore Trout
"Sadly, the Tea Party crowd doesn't seem interested in getting rid of them so they might actually be pretty successful."
See here's the problem with that statement Kilgore - first of all there ain't any "Tea Party Crowd". Contrary to the belief of some, most evidence, admittedly only from people who have actually, you know, attended a Tea Party, neither the Neo-Nazis nor the Paulista's are running them, or for that matter, other than a Ron Paul T-shirt even in evidence at the tea parties. That they say they are is a measure of their deperation to become relevent in a postive way. Folks who go to Tea Parites don't really try to get rid of anyone cause the past tea parties have been so disorganized - course if a skinhead or a dozen showed up down here, there would be very serious trouble - if the Paulistas showed up down here and claimed any responsibility for the 30+ tea parties in N.C. alone, they'd be laughed outta the tea party.

That's why the LEFT is so afraid of the Tea Parties - they really are what they appear to be - ordinary Americans who are FED UP with the way this country is headed, the economy and taxes, taxes and more taxes.

844 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:19:07am

re: #836 jcm

Your hypothesis requires another study, and peer review. I need a $1.2 million grant to follow up.

I suddenly wonder; do urology studies require pee-er review?

845 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:19:16am

re: #831 Occasional Reader

Murphy's @#%#@$ng Law. Of COURSE this story comes out the day after I mention on a thread that I have an upcoming trip to Argentina.

Go ahead, wisenheimers, knock yourselves out...

We know where you'll be...

On the beach looking for Andria Lima look a likes.

846 quickjustice  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:19:17am

re: #827 SixDegrees

Why does anyone engage in risky sexual behavior while drunk? ;-)

847 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:19:45am

re: #841 Occasional Reader

I suppose it makes sense... they could march through either one of those events in full Nazi regalia, and be considered just part of the scenery.

Its a fetish thing. Black on White Supremacists. /

848 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:19:48am

re: #797 nevergiveup

U.S. Government Funds $400,000 Study on Gay Sex in Argentina Bars
The National Institutes of Health are paying researchers to cruise bars in Buenos Aires to find out why gay men engage in risky sexual behavior while drunk -- and what can be done about it.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Who is doing the reasearch, Barney Frank?

I can give them the answer without ever going to a gay bar:
the key phrase is right there "while drunk".
Straight people also engage in risky behavior while drunk!
Some of it sexual, some not. (Famous last words "Watch this!")
And I'll sell this carefully done research for only $399,999.95 !
I'll even throw in research on dangerous behavior of straight people for the same price, if they call RIGHT NOW! Operators are standing by...

849 VegasRick  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:20:00am

re: #842 DaddyG

Like I said above. Remoras attaching themselves to a host.

Killgore has his fingers in his ears, repeating "nana nana nana, I can't hear you!".

850 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:20:28am

re: #840 J.D.

I never heard it before, therefore I am not old.

Hey... it follows...

Old is relative.

851 [deleted]  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:20:31am
852 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:21:00am

re: #846 quickjustice

Why does anyone engage in risky sexual behavior while drunk? ;-)

I've engaged in risky sexual behavior my entire marriage and have the 7 kids to prove it.

853 quickjustice  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:21:14am

re: #832 Killgore Trout

The NYC Tea Party is organized and controlled by [Link: www.parcbench.com...]

I don't believe they have any neo-Nazi connections.

854 irongrampa  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:21:27am

re: #796 Lincolntf

Yep. The larger problem by far is the MFMSM, who'll be only too glad to portray the participants as rightwing extremists. That one will be a difficult meme to discredit.

855 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:21:29am

re: #815 Occasional Reader

The Germans are champion beer-drinkers.

The Germans twice overran Europe.

Coincidence? I think not.

They just had too much beer and were looking for a clean restroom. Why they'd look in France, I don't know; they must have been drunk.
///

856 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:21:32am

re: #850 ilzito guacamolito

Old is relative.

So the old adage "You're only as old as you feel."

I must be 947 years old.

857 [deleted]  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:21:42am
858 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:21:48am

re: #851 buzzsawmonkey

What better time? Many people lack the nerve to do it sober.

Besides, your partner is always HOT!

859 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:21:54am

re: #852 DaddyG

I've engaged in risky sexual behavior my entire marriage and have the 7 kids to prove it.

Slow learner...

;-P

860 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:22:46am

re: #843 realwest

if the Paulistas showed up down here and claimed any responsibility for the 30+ tea parties in N.C. alone, they'd be laughed outta the tea party

I actually wouldn't mind at all hooking up with a few Paulistas.

861 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:22:50am

re: #854 irongrampa

Yep. The larger problem by far is the MFMSM, who'll be only too glad to portray the participants as rightwing extremists. That one will be a difficult meme to discredit.

in every instance the MSM is the LARGEST problem...every time...I hate them all equally

862 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:23:11am

re: #857 buzzsawmonkey

No remoras, no regrets.

Best not to get attached.

863 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:23:57am

re: #852 DaddyG

I've engaged in risky sexual behavior my entire marriage and have the 7 kids to prove it.

The flagella is strong with this one...

864 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:24:07am

re: #845 jcm

We know where you'll be...

On the beach looking for Andria Lima look a likes.

Actually, "Andria Lima" sounds like a trannie Victoria's Secret model impersonator who hangs around those Argentine bars that they'll be studying!

865 Russkilitlover  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:24:37am

re: #795 Occasional Reader

Killgore, you do realize that your patented method for "proving" that the Tea Parties are all neo-Nazi events is a textbook case of "selection bias", right?


That's natural selection bias.

866 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:24:40am

re: #856 MrSilverDragon

So the old adage "You're only as old as you feel."

I must be 947 years old.

Sometimes I feel that way too. Other times I feel 10 years old.
Schizo?...

867 nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:25:57am

re: #852 DaddyG

I've engaged in risky sexual behavior my entire marriage and have the 7 kids to prove it.

And the bills

868 jamgarr  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:26:46am

re: #858 ilzito guacamolito

Besides, your partner is always HOT!

But you must always be sure that your beer goggles don't have an Adam's Apple filter.

869 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:27:04am

re: #856 MrSilverDragon

So the old adage "You're only as old as you feel."

I must be 947 years old.

Wow, you're 1/6 as old as the world is!

/

870 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:27:15am

re: #859 jcm

Slow learner...

;-P


Heh... We had a TV but we put it at the foot of the bed. /

I was at our Temple in Atlanta last night with my oldest three daughters and was brimming with gratitude at being a part of creating these beautiful intelligent young women.

871 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:27:57am

re: #863 SasquatchOnSteroids

The flagella is was strong with this one...

sigh.

872 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:28:12am

re: #852 DaddyG

I've engaged in risky sexual behavior my entire marriage and have the 7 kids to prove it.

Is that risky, or frisky?

873 [deleted]  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:28:17am
874 MrSilverDragon  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:28:21am

Never heard this term before, amused the heck out of me, figured I'd share for those others who may not have heard of the term either:

Dependocrat:

Someone who votes democrat because they rely on the pandering handouts given to them by the government. A big believer in the Nanny-State. Not quite a commie rat but with definite communist leanings. They never really accomplished anything in their life but somehow think the world owes them something.

The Authur Spooner character on "King of Queens" played brilliantly by Jerry Stiller is a good example of a dependocrat. He leeches off his daughter and son-in-law as well as the government and doesn't have a pot to piss in due to his own lack of planning or ambition.

Nice.

875 saberry0530  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:29:06am

re: #852 DaddyG

I've engaged in risky sexual behavior my entire marriage and have the 7 kids to prove it.

SOmething about cause and effect...

876 [deleted]  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:29:59am
877 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:30:03am

re: #816 Lincolntf

Perhaps,kilgore is also giving a heads up that the next large set of tea-parties may have some ininvited party crashers.The organizers of the tea-parties would be wise to plan for such a contingency.All it would take to discredit those involved would be a small handful of hate mongers,who would garner all of the footage and photos.

878 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:30:19am

re: #875 saberry0530

SOmething about cause and effect...

Even Ghandi couldn't give up kanoodling with the Mrs.

Who am I to fight off the most beautiful woman in the world?

879 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:30:40am

re: #860 Occasional Reader
Cute. But I was very fucking serious with my #843. If you're an American who doesn't like the way Obama and the LEFT are handling the economy (much less foreign affairs) and you want to demonstrate publically your displeasure about it - you know the way the LEFTISTS ASSHATS always did with Bush, you're gonna get branded as either a Ron Paul Supporter or a Nazi or White Supremacist. And that's truly BULLSHIT.

880 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:31:10am

re: #870 DaddyG

Heh... We had a TV but we put it at the foot of the bed. /

I was at our Temple in Atlanta last night with my oldest three daughters and was brimming with gratitude at being a part of creating these beautiful intelligent young women.

Got 3 right now, plus a spare (foster child).

Congrats on the family!

Sounds like you might need these;

Application for Permission to Date My Daughter

Ten Simple Rules for Dating My Daughter

881 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:31:20am

More Stormfront...

I want to actually get White people to the point where we can actually hurt the enemy elite. So we have to go, grab the Tea Party Americans by the hand, and gently but unwaveringly guide them using a effective transitional method. We guide the mass in action and influence their "public opinion", and we take the most perceptive active Tea Party folks on an advance educational and organizational path.
You want to get the masses to follow you? You need a local organized grassroots activist critical mass, a capable local White racialist leadership core, and an independent pro-White transitional media alternative that is relevant and attractive to these folks where they are today. You need the essential basic building blocks for a real White mass movement. Then you can get the fight to really begin, intensify, expand and advance. Then you can transform a part of the White community into a bastion of mass racial resistance.
882 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:31:50am

Scary article on creeping Sharia is here:

Two recent cases in Italy and France are particularly troublesome. First, in Italy, three members of a Brescia-based Maghrebi family (father, mother and eldest son) were accused of beating up and sequestering their daughter/sister Fatima because she wanted to live a "Western" life.

In the first trial, the three were sentenced for sequestration and bad treatment. The court acknowledged that the teenager was "brutally beaten up" for having "dated" a non-Muslim and in general for "living a life not conforming with the culture" of her family. But on appeal, the family was acquitted because the court deemed that the young woman was beaten up for "her own good." The Bologna public prosecutor's office then disputed the acquittal of the three accused parties, but the Italian Supreme Court of Cassation dismissed it and ruled in favor of the charged parties.

883 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:31:51am

re: #878 DaddyG

Even Ghandi couldn't give up kanoodling with the Mrs.

Who am I to fight off the most beautiful woman in the world?

You're gonna show her that post later, aren't ya ?

Batter Up !

884 VegasRick  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:32:06am

re: #878 DaddyG

Even Ghandi couldn't give up kanoodling with the Mrs.

Who am I to fight off the most beautiful woman in the world?

Ghandi kanoodled with your wife?
/

885 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:32:15am

re: #868 jamgarr

But you must always be sure that your beer goggles don't have an Adam's Apple filter.

Never happen. I am a misogynist.
/

886 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:32:54am
We know that the GOP will never become a pro-White party, but I do like the phrase 'Party of Ricci' as a transitional, easily grasped way of suggesting the need for a pro-White party and pro-White advocacy in America.

I think we should use that 'Party of Ricci' phrase in our mass transitional flyer for the July 4th Tea Party.

Anyone know what the Party of Ricci is about?

887 Ben Hur  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:32:54am

Apparently our right wing nut job was a lib student at Wesleyan.

888 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:32:55am

re: #880 jcm

Sounds like you might need these;

Application for Permission to Date My Daughter

Dude... you're really not supposed to date your own daughter.

/I don't care if it's a "West Virginia thing" and I "wouldn't understand"

889 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:33:03am

re: #876 taxfreekiller

New phobia:

Irrational Fear of Tea Parties.

"KTism"

The Earl of Grey areas?

890 MJ  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:33:06am

Where's the outrage?

Watch this interview with Steve Rosen on Israel Channel 10 about the AIPAC case (in English).
This is quite literally the Dreyfus Affair:

[Link: news.nana10.co.il...]

The player will start automatically. It works only with IE.

891 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:33:14am

re: #881 Killgore Trout

More Stormfront...

Yep, hijacking the movement. They're scum.

892 Occasional Reader  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:34:03am

re: #887 Ben Hur

Apparently our right wing nut job was a lib student at Wesleyan.

Who? The one who shot the Jewish student?

893 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:34:11am

re: #886 Killgore Trout

Anyone know what the Party of Ricci is about?

"Party of Ricci, your table is now ready. Party of Ricci..."

894 avanti  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:34:33am

re: #827 SixDegrees

Uh - wasn't 0 just yesterday claiming to be looking for places to save money? And stating that every little bit helps?

Or, I could just give them the answer, and they could apply it to straight bars as well: it's the alcohol.

Pay me.

I agree, that's one program started under the Bush adaminstration that might get bipartisson support to cut. One has to wonder why Fox did not bring in up in Sept when it started.

"The study began on Sept. 30, 2008, and runs through Aug. 31, 2010. It already has cost taxpayers $198,776. By the time the project ends, it will have cost $403,902, according to NIH."

895 ggt  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:34:37am

Hello Morning Lizards! I think it is going to rain again in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland. There are flash flood warnings and the farmers are not happy.

As many of you know, I just finished the audio version of War and Peace. While reading the reviews, a book of Tolstoy's was mentioned as "the one that inspired Ghandi and MLK". So, wanting to be well read, I ordered it. The Kingdom of God is Within You. I'd put it in the book links, but I really don't recommend it. If you are interested in the twisted logic of the moonbats, then read it. I even wrote a review on Amazon, which I rarely do.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

896 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:34:52am

re: #892 Occasional Reader

Who? The one who shot the Jewish student?

She was beautiful. He looks like a basement-dwelling loser.

897 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:34:59am

Saudis may take Guantanamo inmates

SAUDI Arabia is considering a proposal from the United States to accept the transfer of nearly 100 Yemeni inmates from the Guantanamo Bay detention centre.

An arrangement to put the prisoners through a Saudi Arabian rehabilitation program for Islamist radicals would overcome the main obstacle to US President Barack Obama's drive to shut Guantanamo's prisoner camps by January.

Congressional Republicans and Democrats alike are sharply questioning Mr Obama's plans for closing the military prison in Cuba, concerned that some former detainees might end up on US soil.

I wonder if they can show one example of a jihadist who was 'rehabilitated' by that program.

898 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:35:05am

re: #887 Ben Hur

Apparently our right wing nut job was a lib student at Wesleyan.

As I said yesterday, he could be of either extremist stripe as both partake in Jew hate.

899 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:35:57am

re: #887 Ben Hur

Apparently our right wing nut job was a lib student at Wesleyan.

An Arabist?

900 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:36:09am

re: #893 Ward Cleaver

Maybe has is about Christina Ricci. Yum!

901 VegasRick  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:36:27am

re: #897 njdhockeyfan

Saudis may take Guantanamo inmates


I wonder if they can show one example of a jihadist who was 'rehabilitated' by that program.

Well there are a couple of dead ones. jihadi nomori!

902 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:37:00am

re: #886 Killgore Trout

Anyone know what the Party of Ricci is about?

Big fans of former NHL player Mike Ricci?

903 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:37:07am

re: #900 Killgore Trout

Maybe has is about Christina Ricci. Yum!

Except the part about her burning herself with cigarettes. No thanks.

904 ggt  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:37:25am

re: #888 Occasional Reader

Dude... you're really not supposed to date your own daughter.

/I don't care if it's a "West Virginia thing" and I "wouldn't understand"

ahhh, West Virginia. I just finished a "Best of Sci-Fi" audio book. In one of the stories, travellers from other dimensions always went the the same diner in West Virginia because on every world, West Viriginia was so "off-the-beaten-path" that the diner was always there and no one bothered them. Hahahaha

905 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:37:44am

re: #875 saberry0530

SOmething about cause and effect...

It's called follow up. Make sure the hypothesis is valid, and repeat the experiment until enough data is in to confirm the theory.

906 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:37:49am

re: #903 Ward Cleaver

Except the part about her burning herself with cigarettes. No thanks.

And her five-head.

907 Ward Cleaver  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:37:56am

re: #902 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Big fans of former NHL player Mike Ricci?

Or Nina Ricci perfumes? L'Air du Temps?

908 yma o hyd  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:38:01am

re: #879 realwest

Cute. But I was very fucking serious with my #843. If you're an American who doesn't like the way Obama and the LEFT are handling the economy (much less foreign affairs) and you want to demonstrate publically your displeasure about it - you know the way the LEFTISTS ASSHATS always did with Bush, you're gonna get branded as either a Ron Paul Supporter or a Nazi or White Supremacist. And that's truly BULLSHIT.

Its a favourite LLL technique.
Here in the UK, you're branded a racist, no matter what government deeds you oppose.

909 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:38:21am

re: #902 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Big fans of former NHL player Mike Ricci?

Now there is a guy who would be a dentist's dream patient.

910 Ben Hur  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:38:45am

re: #892 Occasional Reader

Who? The one who shot the Jewish student?


Yes.

911 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:38:46am

re: #888 Occasional Reader

Dude... you're really not supposed to date your own daughter.

/I don't care if it's a "West Virginia thing" and I "wouldn't understand"

Ohhh! Mandy!

Can I borrow that for a minute?

...

912 jcm  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:39:02am

Gotta run!

913 Russkilitlover  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:39:58am

re: #894 avanti

I agree, that's one program started under the Bush adaminstration that might get bipartisson support to cut. One has to wonder why Fox did not bring in up in Sept when it started.

"The study began on Sept. 30, 2008, and runs through Aug. 31, 2010. It already has cost taxpayers $198,776. By the time the project ends, it will have cost $403,902, according to NIH."

I won't pin this on Obama as a personal decision but neither will I allow you to pin it on "the Bush Administration." CONGRESS spends money. A left-leaning Democratic CONGRESS has been in control of the spending since 2006.

914 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:40:01am

re: #891 Ward Cleaver

Yep, hijacking the movement. They're scum.

Normally I'd say they could never pull it off but Vlaams Belang, a tiny and obscure Eurofascist political party hijacked the international counterjihad movement. Ron Paul, who only got less than 1% of the Republican vote has hijacked the party. Stranger things have happened.

915 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:40:05am

re: #880 jcm

Thanks - I love these and haven't seem them in a while

916 Honorary Yooper  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:40:14am

re: #895 ggt

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

All sorts of stuff. The fascists downstairs, Ron Pau, Stormfront, and my favorite, Drew Peterson's arrest.

917 avanti  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:40:15am

re: #897 njdhockeyfan

Saudis may take Guantanamo inmates

I wonder if they can show one example of a jihadist who was 'rehabilitated' by that program.

Quite a few of them because of the way the Saudis's bribe them. They provide homes, cars, education, even wives to keep them happy and sidelined, then keep them on a short leash. I don't agree with all the "welfare", it works for them.

918 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:40:46am

re: #881 Killgore Trout
Killgore - you know Charles has banned any linking to Stormfront - and with good reason - but I don't see how your posting of long quotes from that site observes at least the spirit of Charles' Ban.
Of course it IS Charles blog and he can allow anything he wants to on here, but you're right, we don't have to read what you quote or say they are saying at that Nazi site.
NO FASCISTS IN OUR FOXHOLE.

919 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:40:48am

re: #897 njdhockeyfan

Saudis may take Guantanamo inmates

I wonder if they can show one example of a jihadist who was 'rehabilitated' by that program.

I think they've "rehabilitated" some who wanted to attack Saudi Arabia; they make sure their energies are properly directed; that is, against Jews.

920 DaddyG  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:40:55am

re: #884 VegasRick

Ghandi kanoodled with your wife?
/


Ha! I should know better than to try to out-smart-alek a Lizard!

921 ggt  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:41:16am

re: #916 Honorary Yooper

All sorts of stuff. The fascists downstairs, Ron Pau, Stormfront, and my favorite, Drew Peterson's arrest.

Drew Peterson, what a psycho --and I mean that literally.

922 nevergiveup  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:41:29am

re: #897 njdhockeyfan

Saudis may take Guantanamo inmates

I wonder if they can show one example of a jihadist who was 'rehabilitated' by that program.

The 20 who died on 9/11 were considered "rehabed" by the Saudis.

923 avanti  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:43:00am

re: #913 Russkilitlover

I won't pin this on Obama as a personal decision but neither will I allow you to pin it on "the Bush Administration." CONGRESS spends money. A left-leaning Democratic CONGRESS has been in control of the spending since 2006.

In fairness, you can't blame it on Bush or congress. NIH gets the funding, then spends it pretty much as it pleases, some projects seem silly.

924 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:43:07am

re: #918 realwest

If Charles asks me to stop posting about neoNazi involvement in the Tea parties I will oblige. I've been deleted before for linking or quoting objectionable stuff. I'll play by the rules.

925 SixDegrees  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:44:20am

re: #881 Killgore Trout

More Stormfront...

I'll say two good things about Stormfront:

1) The vast majority of those who post there are never going to do anything more than that. They're modern day D&D players, indulging their fantasies online, and that's all the outlet they need to deal with their mental issues.

2) Sites like Stormfront make it a whole lot easier to keep track of where all the nuts are, what they're thinking and what they're planning. If you can call the low-level mental activity exhibited "planning."

926 realwest  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:44:54am

I'm outta here y'all - hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

927 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:48:30am

re: #909 ilzito guacamolito

One of the world's greatest living blues/rock harmonica players is a young guy named Jason Ricci. The guy is just amazing.

928 nyc redneck  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:52:53am

re: #832 Killgore Trout

Stormfront even started their own social networking site for the Tea Parties...
Tea Party Americans Coalition


Interesting.

the tea party i went to in NYC had no nazis in attendance. we had a big group
(several thousand) of regular decent citizens, who are were simply exercising
their first amendment right to speak out publicly against the socialist o regime.

we can't let fringe scum from either side intimidate us from exercising that right. i certainly refuse to let the prospect of a nazi appearing on the scene, stop me from speaking out. why be so cowardly abt. your point of view that
you allow a small group of scum to shut you down.
people speaking out publicly, abt. o's ruinous policies, is making a difference. already it is a concern for the narcissist o and his thugs.
and the movement is growing.

929 ilzito guacamolito  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:53:40am

re: #927 Mad Al-Jaffee

One of the world's greatest living blues/rock harmonica players is a young guy named Jason Ricci. The guy is just amazing.

Yeah, but does he play hockey ?

930 albusteve  Fri, May 8, 2009 8:58:29am

re: #927 Mad Al-Jaffee

One of the world's greatest living blues/rock harmonica players is a young guy named Jason Ricci. The guy is just amazing.

I'm checking, thanks for that

931 [deleted]  Fri, May 8, 2009 9:02:15am
932 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, May 8, 2009 9:14:03am

re: #930 albusteve

I'm checking, thanks for that

He has tons of YouTube videos, including lots of harmonica technique/lessons.


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