...and yet, the shuttle hasn't plunged into the night, yet!

2

Chocolate makes everything better.

It's almost summer here. I'm not going to worry about it.

re: #3 Sharmuta

Chocolate makes everything better.

But Cookies and Cream flavor doesn't hurt!

Into the Night:

How's everything going, deuce? ;-)

May the Force be with you NASA in your latest journey beyond the dark side.

So does Roselani Cherry-choc ice cream.
[Link: www.roselani.com...]

re: #2 pat

2

The deuce, you say!

re: #8 eddie- the Aggravator

May the Force be with you NASA in your latest journey beyond the dark side.

Amen to that.

Obama is getting a little creepy, I think.

Just think, only 45 more months of the 0bama administration.
SIGH

Does the Force come in chocolate covered?

re: #10 gmsc

Laid and played, brother. lol

re: #14 Sharmuta

White or Dark?

re: #16 Floral Giraffe

White doesn't count.

re: #12 pat

Obama is getting a little creepy, I think.

I've been getting the same impressions lately.

I was never crazy about many of the things Clinton did as president, but their main effect was to make me roll my eyes and simply get frustrated. Clinton never actually gave me the creeps like 0bama does.

re: #16 Floral Giraffe

White or Dark?

Dark for me. I'm trying to stay on topic.

re: #17 Sharmuta

*GASP*
( I like white!)

re: #18 gmsc

Obama? Creepy? The devil, you say!

re: #20 Floral Giraffe

More for you! ;D

Ok folks...my darling better half just came out and scolded me, the boy is finally sleeping, So I guess I'm off to bed.

Nite all!

re: #19 Pvt Bin Jammin

Dark for me. I'm trying to stay on topic.

Staying with the topic:

A chemical known as theobromine has been found to be 33% more effective at suppressing persistent coughs than an equal amount of the currently recommended treatment, codeine.

The recommended dosage is 1,000 mg of theobromine – which can be consumed by eating 2 oz. of dark chocolate!

re: #23 srb1976

'Nite. Happy Mother's Day!

re: #25 Pvt Bin Jammin

'Nite. Happy Mother's Day!

G'Nite, PBJ!

re: #23 srb1976

Ok folks...my darling better half just came out and scolded me, the boy is finally sleeping, So I guess I'm off to bed.

Nite all!

G'Nite, srb – take care of the little one!

re: #26 gmsc

I'm not quite out yet, just saying g'nite to the youngsters. Looking for some dark chocolate. Does it make you sleepy too?

re: #24 gmsc

Staying with the topic:

A chemical known as theobromine has been found to be 33% more effective at suppressing persistent coughs than an equal amount of the currently recommended treatment, codeine.

The recommended dosage is 1,000 mg of theobromine – which can be consumed by eating 2 oz. of dark chocolate!

I always had a hunch chocolate was good for us. Thanks, Science!

These

are the desolate, dark weeks
when nature in its barrenness
equals the stupidity of man.

The year plunges into night
and the heart plunges
lower than night

my life in a nutshell...

one of them, anyway.

re: #28 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm not quite out yet, just saying g'nite to the youngsters. Looking for some dark chocolate. Does it make you sleepy too?

I just realized that.

As far as I know, it doesn't make you feel sleepy. Dreamy? Yes. Sleepy? Probably not.

These

are the desolate, dark weeks
when nature in its barrenness
equals the stupidity of man.

The year plunges into night
and the heart plunges
lower than night

— William Carlos Williams

My suggestion? Do not go gentle into that good night!

re: #32 gmsc

That poem went through my mind the evening my dad died.

re: #33 BatGuano

That poem went through my mind the evening my dad died.

{BatGuano}

re: #31 gmsc

I just realized that.

As far as I know, it doesn't make you feel sleepy. Dreamy? Yes. Sleepy? Probably not.

I searched the kitchen and couldn't find any anyway. I settled for Gin. Sleepytime in a few. LOL

re: #33 BatGuano

That poem went through my mind the evening my dad died.

It's interesting how the same thing can have such different meanings to different people. I can't help but hear Rodney Dangerfield's voice when I read it:

re: #30 redc1c4

These

are the desolate, dark weeks
when nature in its barrenness
equals the stupidity of man.

The year plunges into night
and the heart plunges
lower than night

my life in a nutshell...

one of them, anyway.

You're leading a double life?

back from East Africa on Sunday... jet lagged, insomnia... let's make this lively.

How is everyone?

havn't had much time at the site over the last few weeks... anything new going on?

re: #38 shanec99

back from East Africa on Sunday... jet lagged, insomnia... let's make this lively.

How is everyone?

Things in Vegas are relatively quiet (of course, our quiet is most people's big Saturday night!). How you?

re: #29 Sharmuta

There is caffeine in dark chocolate, none in white!
HAH!
[Link: www.wisegeek.com...]

I guess no one wants to talk, c ya later

re: #42 shanec99

Welcome home, wherever that is for you.

re: #42 shanec99

I guess no one wants to talk, c ya later

Gee, thanks.
;)

re: #40 gmsc
ok, glad to be home.
not been out as yet.

re: #39 shanec99

havn't had much time at the site over the last few weeks... anything new going on?

We still hate nazis.

re: #42 shanec99

Patience. It was fewer than 4 minutes.

Today in History, May 11th:

Highlights of this day in history: Charges dropped against Daniel Ellsberg in the Pentagon Papers case; Garry Kasparov loses a chess match against IBM's Deep Blue computer; Songwriter Irving Berlin born; Reggae star Bob Marley dies.

Other notable May 11th events include:

330 – Byzantium is renamed Nova Roma during a dedication ceremony, but is more popularly referred to as Constantinople.

1310 – Fifty-four members of the Knights Templar are burned at the stake in France for being heretics.

1502 – Christopher Columbus leaves for his fourth and final voyage to the West Indies.

1820 – Launch of HMS Beagle, the ship that took young Charles Darwin on his scientific voyage.

1858 – Minnesota is admitted as the 32nd U.S. state.

1910 – An act of the U.S. Congress establishes Glacier National Park in Montana.

1927 – The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is founded.

1949 – Siam officially changes its name to Thailand, a name in use since 1939.

1949 – Israel joins the United Nations.

1984 – A transit of Earth from Mars takes place.

1987 – Klaus Barbie goes on trial in Lyon for war crimes committed during World War II.

1987 – In Baltimore, Maryland, The first heart-lung transplant takes place. The surgery is performed by Dr. Bruce Reitz, of Stanford University School of Medicine.

1995 – In New York City, more than 170 countries decide to extend the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty indefinitely and without conditions.

re: #43 Floral Giraffe
thank you... East Africa can tear you apart... it can make you see love, kindness and the best in humanity... and 10 minutes later it can make you cry.

re: #46 Sharmuta

We still hate nazis.

As well we hould... but that is nothing new.

re: #45 shanec99

ok, glad to be home.
not been out as yet.

I just noticed Bob Marley in your logo. It's kind of sad, since he died on this date in 1981.

re: #39 shanec99

havn't had much time at the site over the last few weeks... anything new going on?

Well there's new blog that's talking about the blog that's talking about us:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #48 gmsc

1984 – A transit of Earth from Mars takes place.

Arther C. Clarke wrote a short story about it called, "Transit of Earth"

re: #52 Pvt Bin Jammin

Well there's new blog that's talking about the blog that's talking about us:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Can't wait to see the next installment.

re: #53 BatGuano

1984 – A transit of Earth from Mars takes place.

Arther C. Clarke wrote a short story about it called, "Transit of Earth"

I'm pretty sure he didn't write it about the 1984 Transit – seeing as "Transit of Earth" was first published in the January 1971 issue of Playboy.
;)

re: #54 Sharmuta

I know. LOL I picked a bad day yesterday to be away from my computer. Had a lot of catching up to do today and late last night.

Those damned Illuminaughty and their satanic Builder Burgers. Who can stop them? Who, I ask?

This guy?

/speaking troof to imagined power!

re: #51 gmsc
yep, Bob Marley... a real giant... and insightful thinker, he said and set to music the following words:
Until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes, there will be war.
Until there are no more first and second class citizens of any nation there will be war
Until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all, there will be war

Until that day, the dream of lasting peace, world citizenship, rule of international morality will be but a fleeting illusion to be forever persued, but never attained.

re: #52 Pvt Bin Jammin
hmmm interesting

re: #59 shanec99

hmmm interesting

At least you'll have something to check out if you can't sleep.

re: #55 gmsc

Probably not. I read it about 25 years ago and don't remember if mentioned a date.
:)

re: #60 Pvt Bin Jammin
will take a few days to get over the jet lag

Good Morning LNDTers. I hope everyone is well?

re: #63 Erik The Red

Good morning. I be well. And you?

Good night, lizards of the evenng!
Sleepy time here.
Stay ever so scaly!

re: #30 redc1c4

These

are the desolate, dark weeks
when nature in its barrenness
equals the stupidity of man.

The year plunges into night
and the heart plunges
lower than night

my life in a nutshell...

one of them, anyway.

Hiya there red,

Giants take 2 of 3 from Dodgers in LA, and Casey Blake shows why its the bums who are classless.

Once again, good times!

re: #65 Floral Giraffe

Good night, Floral.

Has anyone else heard about the Wolfram Alpha search engine to be released later this month? You may already be familiar with Wolfram from their Mathematica software, their mathematics encyclopedia, or their page that demonstrates concepts from the TV show Numb3rs.

Instead of a search engine, in the manner you think of Google, this is a "fact engine". You can ask it simple things, such as "How high is Mt. Everest?" in plain English, and it will answer you. However, many search engines already handle that task quite adequately.

However, Wolfram Alpha can go quite a bit further than that, as the video below demonstrates. Check it out!

re: #65 Floral Giraffe

Good night, lizards of the evenng!
Sleepy time here.
Stay ever so scaly!

Good night! Sleep well, Floral Giraffe.

re: #65 Floral Giraffe

Good night, lizards of the evenng!
Sleepy time here.
Stay ever so scaly!

Good night, sweet dreams.

re: #62 shanec99

will take a few days to get over the jet lag

You might want to try a Benadryl. Jet lag is the worst.

"From the Heartland of America, to Every Nation on Earth, This is Jack Van Impe Presents. The TRUTH in News and Commentary. Here now are DOCTORS Jack and Rexella Van Impe".

Parallels between these nutters' commentary and some of the crap we have heard from the supposedly conservative blogosphere? Supposedly conservative protest parties?

Nah... Just go back to bed. These are simply ordinary, everyday Americans.
/

re: #71 Pvt Bin Jammin
yeah... but benadryl can mess up h2 production in the stomach

re: #37 Pvt Bin Jammin

You're leading a double life?

no. my life is just dark, except for when it goes pitch black.

There are 4 types of female orgasms

The Positive: Oh, yes!
The Holy: Oh, God!
The Profane: Oh, sh*t!
The Fake: Oh, [name]!

re: #73 shanec99

yeah... but benadryl can mess up h2 production in the stomach

no where near as bad as ranitidine, cimetidine, etc... can

re: #70 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good night, weet dreams.

FTFY!

re: #38 shanec99

back from East Africa on Sunday... jet lagged, insomnia... let's make this lively.

How is everyone?

Hi shanec99,
East Africa ay? Was that according to your avatar by any coincidence Ethiopia?
I have been there, lived and worked there for two and a half years.
Interesting.

I've been keeping the NASA TV link up, thinking the launch would be soon. Just checking the schedule, I see that they don't expect it to launch until 2:01 PM eastern today!

I'm not even keeping this computer on for the next 11 hours!

re: #75 Sharmuta

There are 4 types of female orgasms

The Positive: Oh, yes!
The Holy: Oh, God!
The Profane: Oh, sh*t!
The Fake: Oh, [name]!

and The Usual: I have a headache.

re: #80 redc1c4

and The Usual: I have a headache.

The husband joins his wife in the bedroom to get ready for bed. His wife asks him to go into the next room and grab her slippers.

When he comes back, he has her slippers and a small bottle of Tylenol, both of which he hands to her.

She's confused by the Tylenol and asks, "Why did you bring me this? I don't have a headache."

The husband replied, "AH-HA!"

Another thread, which means it's time for me to address the pressing issue of Reigonals and Short-Haul railways purchasing brand-new locomotives from the manufacturer.

This is actually a fairly rare practice, but there have been a number of notable exceptions over the past few years. Since its inception in the late 1980s, Montana Rail Link has traditionally operated their former Northern Pacific line with a fleet of burly but aging 3600 HP SD45. In late 2005, the Montana Rail Link took delivery of the first of 16 SD70ACes that they've ordered.

Iowa Interstate got off to fairly humble beginnings in 1984, operating a lengthy but deteriorating remnant of the former Chicago Rock Island & Pacific (The Rock Island) between Chicago, IL and Council Bluffs, IA in the mid 1980s with a fleet of former Illinois Central GP10s, along with some former Monongehela and Union Pacific GP38s and ex-Reserve Mining SD38-2s. With an increase in traffic from the 'ethanol boom', it came as no surprise that they would need newer locomotives to meet rising traffic levels...what was surprising was that last April, they went ahead and purchased a dozen brand new ES44AC 'GEVO' locomotives from General Electric instead of a reliable supply of second or third-hand locomotives available from the various Class one and reigonals out there.

I kind of saw this coming for the Indiana Railroad. They've been gradually expanding their trackage since inception and started out with a handful of oddball secondhand locomotives such as former Santa Fe CF7s, Milwaukee Road SD10s on most of the former Illinois Central line between Effingham, IL and Indianapolis. Three years ago, Indiana Railroad purchased the former Canadian Pacific/Soo Line/Milwaukee Road line between Terre Haute and Bedford, IN. Significantly, this included trackage rights on the CSX between Louisville, KY and Bedford, IN and Terre Haute, IN and Chicago. I believe CP Rail also threw in some former SOO Line SD60s as part of the purchase, since the new trackage would require more power for the increased coal traffic. But like Montana Rail Link and Iowa interstate, they augmented the SD60s and former Burlington Northern Santa Fe SD40-2s with a half-dozen brand-spanking new EMD SD9043MACs.

Perhaps most unusual among reigonals/short-hauls is the New York Susquehanna & Western, who since 1989 has not only purchased brand new locomotives from GE and EMD, but has also divested themselves of them. When Guilford Rail- parent company of the Maine Central, Boston & Maine and Delaware & Hudson decided to divest themselves of the Delaware & Hudson in the late '80s, the already expanding NYS&W was appointed the designated operator. This meant Susquehanna's route between northern New Jersey and Syracuse New York (via Conrail trackage rights between Port Jervis and Binghampton, NY) was now greatly increased, giving the reigonal access to terminals in Buffalo, NY, Montreal and Washington D.C. Already contemplating a purchase of then-new B39-8s, the arrival of four new GE B40-8s co-incided with their operation of the D&H. Interchange railways CSX and Norfolk Southern chipped in by offering their own power as loaners to the NYS&W. CSX even went one better and offered to bankroll a dozen additional new B40-8s for as long as they operated the D&H. When Canadian Pacific took over the Delaware & Hudson in 1990, all but the first four B40-8s went to the CSX.

Susquehanna for the most part went back to their pre-D&H route, although for a fairly brief period in the '90s, they operated the Toldeo Peoria & Western in Illinois as a disconnected entity. In anticipation of this, Susquehanna ordered a trio of new SD70Ms from EMD, but the anticipated traffic in Illinois or the Southern tier of NY State never materielized. Instead, they have spent much of their career being sub-leased to RailTex/Rail America's Indiana & Ohio- still in Susquehanna's distinctive black & yellow paint. The B40-8s purachsed in the 80s have since been sold to Providence & Worcester.

re: #74 redc1c4

I try to stay out of that darkness but I know what you mean.

Sorry I took so long to reply. My nephew got me to join some kind of site called "Flixter" and I had a message over there...from his dad. We are both kind of freaked out about this site. I have six "Zoosk" matches. I have no idea what the hell that means and I'm not clicking on anything. LOL

re: #81 gmsc

The husband joins his wife in the bedroom to get ready for bed. His wife asks him to go into the next room and grab her slippers.

When he comes back, he has her slippers and a small bottle of Tylenol, both of which he hands to her.

She's confused by the Tylenol and asks, "Why did you bring me this? I don't have a headache."

The husband replied, "AH-HA!"

and then she complains about the noise...

When Newspaper Men Were Men, And The Congress Was Nervous

(As opposed to now, when the newspaper men are propagandists
the Congress is in rapture; and Barney Frank's interns are nervous).

Imagine a time when the government cheerfully fiddles with the underlying value of the currency, breaks legal obligations and contracts, declares no harm done, then congratulates itself in it's resplendent ignorance -- Sound familiar?

If so, one probably has more foresight than the Broke Obozo administration's recent desecration of the rule of law -- their mallet-point re-writes of the corporate bond contracts of private companies -- even if one didn't' immediately recall the original New Dealer's treachery:

Court Backs Government on Gold; 5-4 For Bond Payment in New Dollar; Business Surges Forward, Stocks Rise;

CONGRESS IS CENSURED

It Exceeded Power on Federal Bonds -- No Suits Allowed. As no damage is shown. Government Elated

Headed by the Chief Justice of the United States, a majority of five members of the Supreme Court today overrode their four colleagues in the cases growing out of the repeal of the gold-payment clause in public and private contracts by the Seventy-third Congress, involving more than 100 billions, and held in effect that government and private creditors must accept, in depreciated currency, dollar for dollar on interest and principle sums named in the contracts.

Fortunately, Arthur Krock's article (above) on page 1 of the Feb 19, 1935 New York Times, wasn't the only voice of reason at that time.

Just as Congress declared by fiat that Congress had the power to alter corporate bond contracts, (during year one of the Roosevelt administration), suspended payment of gold coins, and devalued the dollar against gold; the end of legal ownership of gold coins for a generation (even though Government and corporate bonds specifically said that no devaluation was possible); back then there were real men that dissented:

In an extemporaneous speech bristling with scorn and indignation, Justice McReynolds, delivering the opinion of the minority in the gold clause cases, startled spectators in the Supreme Court chamber today with a blistering attack on the New Deal currency policies.

There were gasps as the 73-year old Tennessean, scarcely glancing at his manuscript, declared that Nero undertook to use a debased currency, asserting that the Constitution had "gone" and expressed the "shame and humiliation" of the minority consisting of himself and Justices Vandevanter, Sutherland, and Butler.

At the very outset he said that to share the view of the majority would mean a "repudiation of national obligations" and "these things are abhorrent" to himself and the three other associate justices.

He scoffed at the idea that the framers of the Constitution would for a moment sanction repudiation of the "solemn pledges" of the gold clauses, which Congress had "swept away with a word". He remarked that "millions of dollars" had been invested with those "solemn pledges" as an assurance to investors.

Just as there are no newspaper MEN today at the New York Times, one should not count on Congress to protect the rule of law from Obozo's weak grasp on history, the nature of capitalism, and comprehension of the Constitution; at least if one's savings, business, or family is at stake.

Broke Obozo's bond-breaking plans assures only failure, today and tomorrow. Prepare to have the value of the currency plummet when the gov't bonds they sell to try to stem the massive (current) and upcoming inflation have their basis arbitrarily re-adjusted; a task made slightly more easy when they own the banks.

re: #84 redc1c4

and then she complains about the noise...

And then Blake scattered of before they could question him. What a punk.

Good night, lizards. I will come to to play tomorrow. :)

re: #83 Pvt Bin Jammin

I try to stay out of that darkness but I know what you mean.

Sorry I took so long to reply. My nephew got me to join some kind of site called "Flixter" and I had a message over there...from his dad. We are both kind of freaked out about this site. I have six "Zoosk" matches. I have no idea what the hell that means and I'm not clicking on anything. LOL

no worries on this end... i'm just a grumpy SOB.

/don't mind me

re: #83 Pvt Bin Jammin

I try to stay out of that darkness but I know what you mean.

Sorry I took so long to reply. My nephew got me to join some kind of site called "Flixter" and I had a message over there...from his dad. We are both kind of freaked out about this site. I have six "Zoosk" matches. I have no idea what the hell that means and I'm not clicking on anything. LOL

6 "Zoosks" on Flixter? That reminds me of this:

re: #87 BatGuano

Good night, lizards. I will come to to play tomorrow. :)

G'nite Bat. If I'm not here late tomorrow I'll be here Tuesday. Have a great day tomorrow.

re: #85 blackpajamas

When Newspaper Men Were Men, And The Congress Was Nervous

this very title is sexist... i denounce you!

re: #66 traderjoe9

What did Casey Blake do? I know that game went into extra innings, but I was too busy watching the Red Sox/Bruins/Celtics winning to notice the outcome.

re: #91 redc1c4

When Newspaper Men Were Men, And The Congress Was Nervous

this very title is sexist... i denounce you!

That goes back to the standard joke:

A Republican and a Democrat both do the same thing, which results in the same outcome. The Republican is now being sued for discrimination, and the Democrat is being hailed as a legendary hero.

re: #91 redc1c4

When Newspaper Men Were Men, And The Congress Was Nervous

this very title is sexist... i denounce you!

I am hereby denounced (and sleepy).

//g'nite all!

re: #92 Fenway_Nation

What did Casey Blake do? I know that game went into extra innings, but I was too busy watching the Red Sox/Bruins/Celtics winning to notice the outcome.

I've found this video report of the last minutes of the game and how Casey fared:

re: #89 gmsc

6 "Zoosks" on Flixter? That reminds me of this:

Da*n, I wonder what I'm matched up with? Nephew is playing dumb with both his dad and I but I looked at the other "friends" too. He did it to us. LOL I don't even go to the movies much anymore. I think I rated "Casablanca" and "Cool Hand Luke". LOL

re: #92 Fenway_Nation

What did Casey Blake do? I know that game went into extra innings, but I was too busy watching the Red Sox/Bruins/Celtics winning to notice the outcome.

Brian Wilson came in the 12th inning in a 5-4 game. Blake hit a solo home run to tie the ballgame; once in the dugout, the camera caught him mocking Wilson's gesture after every save (turning around, crossing his arms, and pointing to the sky). This gesture is in honor of Wilson's late father.

re: #96 Pvt Bin Jammin

Da*n, I wonder what I'm matched up with? Nephew is playing dumb with both his dad and I but I looked at the other "friends" too. He did it to us. LOL I don't even go to the movies much anymore. I think I rated "Casablanca" and "Cool Hand Luke". LOL

If it's movie reviews, maybe you were matched up with someone who rated "Paint Your Wagon" or something.
;)

re: #80 redc1c4

Some studies have shown that "The Act" can relieve many types of headaches, and even temporarily relieve certain cyclical-based cramps women experience*.

*or is that last part something a couple of gals told me just 'cuz they liked my junk and my methods?
/

re: #97 traderjoe9

Brian Wilson came in the 12th inning in a 5-4 game. Blake hit a solo home run to tie the ballgame; once in the dugout, the camera caught him mocking Wilson's gesture after every save (turning around, crossing his arms, and pointing to the sky). This gesture is in honor of Wilson's late father.

Juan Marichal

re: #98 gmsc

If it's movie reviews, maybe you were matched up with someone who rated "Paint Your Wagon" or something.
;)

Apparently that's what it's all about but omg it is nothing but ads and redirects, IQ tests, etc. I haven't heard back from my former BIL as to how many "Zoosks" he has.

Anyone else having major problems loading/using LGF lately? Menus hang up for long periods of time, separate windows are slow, main site barely loads, threads hardly load, etc...

re: #97 traderjoe9

I heard Wilson went out of his way to talk shit about Yankee fans when he was at last year's All-Star game (being from New Hampshire and all).

I also heard about Aubrey Huff mimicing Blow Choke-Joba's fist pump while rounding the bases after hitting a homer off of him.

re: #102 TheMatrix31

Anyone else having major problems loading/using LGF lately? Menus hang up for long periods of time, separate windows are slow, main site barely loads, threads hardly load, etc...

No problems here - iNtel iMac running Safari on Leopard. What are you using?

re: #102 TheMatrix31

Anyone else having major problems loading/using LGF lately? Menus hang up for long periods of time, separate windows are slow, main site barely loads, threads hardly load, etc...

ice cream in the text...

re: #78 callahan23

Hi shanec99,
East Africa ay? Was that according to your avatar by any coincidence Ethiopia?
I have been there, lived and worked there for two and a half years.
Interesting.

My avitar is Jamaican, its Bob Marley (a Jamaican) placed on the background of a Janaican flag.

An Australian man is seeking to join the Police force

The Sergeant doing the interview says: "Your qualifications all look good,
but there is an attitude suitability test that you must take before you can
be accepted."

Then, sliding a pistol across the desk, he says:

"Take this pistol and go out and shoot six illegal immigrants, six drug
dealers, six Muslim extremists, and a rabbit. "

"Why the rabbit?"

"I like your attitude!" says the Sergeant. "When can you start?"

re: #100 redc1c4

Juan Marichal

Johny Roseboro.

re: #78 callahan23
I spent most of my time in Djibouti and the Comoros. I am in the Navy. I did visit Kenya and Ethiopia though.

While walking through Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, a man came
upon another man hugging a tree with his ear
firmly against the tree. Seeing this he inquired, 'Just out of
curiosity, what the heck are you doing?'

'I'm listening to the music of the tree,' the other man replied.

'You've gotta be kiddin' me.'

'No, would you like to give it a try?'

Understandably curious, the man says, 'Well, OK...' So he wrapped his
arms around the tree and pressed his ear up
against it. With this, the other guy slapped a pair of handcuffs on
him, took his wallet, jewelry, car keys, then
stripped him naked and left.

Two hours later another nature lover strolled by, saw this guy
handcuffed to the tree stark naked, and asked, 'What
the heck happened to you?'

He told the guy the whole terrible story about how he got there.

When he finished telling his story, the other guy shook his head in
sympathy, walked around behind him, kissed him
gently behind the ear and said,

'This just ain't gonna be your day, cupcake...'

re: #103 Fenway_Nation

I heard Wilson went out of his way to talk shit about Yankee fans when he was at last year's All-Star game (being from New Hampshire and all).

I also heard about Aubrey Huff mimicing Blow Choke-Joba's fist pump while rounding the bases after hitting a homer off of him.

I didn't hear anything about him talking shit about the Yankees. Who cares if he did? Screw the Yankees.

re: #99 Slumbering Behemoth

Some studies have shown that "The Act" can relieve many types of headaches, and even temporarily relieve certain cyclical-based cramps women experience*.

*or is that last part something a couple of gals told me just 'cuz they liked my junk and my methods?
/

In my experience, this is largely true, but hardly guaranteed. True enough, though, to have the act sometimes referred to as "taking the car to the shop".

I'm using FF3 on Vista. Everything else works fine, but LGF has gotten tough the last few weeks. Could it be the extra traffic or something?

re: #111 traderjoe9

You don't hear me complaining. I'm trying to think of what it was he said exactly...there's a Red Sox bulliten board that keeps track of some of these obscure things.

He could've just been reminding the Yankees fans who the AL manager was and how well-represented Boston was at the final All-Star game in Yankee stadium.

Good night, lizards. Tomorrow is a work day. Welcome home Shane 99. Thanks for your service. My nephew, a Marine, spent time in Djitbouti. It was a while ago, maybe operation distant runner or something like that.

Take care all.

re: #115 Pvt Bin Jammin

G'nite PBJ!

re: #113 TheMatrix31

I'm using FF3 on Vista. Everything else works fine, but LGF has gotten tough the last few weeks. Could it be the extra traffic or something?

Could be. If it's only recently you've been experiencing this, you may want to clear your cache, and see if that speeds things up.

re: #115 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good night, lizards. Tomorrow is a work day. Welcome home Shane 99. Thanks for your service. My nephew, a Marine, spent time in Djitbouti. It was a while ago, maybe operation distant runner or something like that.

Take care all.

Good night, again, PBJ!

I'd better go, too. Good night, all!

re: #109 shanec99

I spent most of my time in Djibouti and the Comoros. I am in the Navy. I did visit Kenya and Ethiopia though.

Splice the Main Brace.

re: #116 Fenway_Nation

I ddn't forget about train day.

re: #114 Fenway_Nation

You don't hear me complaining. I'm trying to think of what it was he said exactly...there's a Red Sox bulliten board that keeps track of some of these obscure things.

He could've just been reminding the Yankees fans who the AL manager was and how well-represented Boston was at the final All-Star game in Yankee stadium.

Ahh.

Wilson is pretty cool...his show "Life of Brian" actually premiered today on the local channels. I'm just sick of his fucking 3 ball counts.

But, 2 saves against the Manroid less Dodgers.

Yes, manroid. Don't take too much offense, red, just hillarious revenge after years of putting up with all the barroid bullshit.

re: #120 Pvt Bin Jammin

Awesome- at least one of us was able to observe it in some way shape or form.

/had to work all day Saturday...not a bad problem to have after being unemployed/underemployed for a month.

This would seem to have become a balls thread.

re: #121 traderjoe9

I had a good feeling about Jason Bay.

re: #117 gmsc

Could be. If it's only recently you've been experiencing this, you may want to clear your cache, and see if that speeds things up.

Let's try it.

re: #106 shanec99

My avitar is Jamaican, its Bob Marley (a Jamaican) placed on the background of a Janaican flag.

No offense: Jamaica, Reggae and Bob Marley (RIP) are linked to Haile Selassie of Ethiopia. A lot of rastafarians do make the 'pilgrimage' to Shashamene in Ethiopia.

re: #124 Fenway_Nation

I had a good feeling about Jason Bay.

Bay's a stud. The Padres would be winning the division right now if they weren't such profound dumbasses.

Don't take it personally, but I used to like the Sox. Thats when the Giants had actually won a World Series later than the Sox.

Now the list is down to two teams: Cubs and Indians.

Sigh...

re: #124 Fenway_Nation

I had a good feeling about Jason Bay.

And while we are on the topic of the Sox and manroids, does any part of you believe that the '04 and '07 teams were tainted? Considering the large campaign to put an asterisk next to Bond's name, shouldn't we put one next to those teams? Millar, Martinez, Ortiz, Manny, etc. Or how about EVERY world series team this decade.

Well shoot, I better call it a good night.

Good night!

re: #127 traderjoe9

Yep- the 'lovable losers' ship has long since sailed and been strafed repeatedly.

I'll take winning championships over sympathy.

My favorite witty rejoinder from the left coast fans is how the Red Sox are the new Yankees. My first question is what struggling club did we lure away Kevin Youkilis from with the promise of a huge contract? Jon Lester? Jacoby Ellsbury? Dustin Pedroia? Jed Lowrie? Johnathan Papelbon? Justin Masterson?

Shit...even the 2007 World Series MVP was an afterthought in the Josh Beckett deal.

Still loading like shit, meh.

re: #131 TheMatrix31

I still have dial-up, so it would be very unusual if things were loading smoothly.

re: #123 haakondahl

The Illuminaughty rule the night.

re: #99 Slumbering Behemoth

Some studies have shown that "The Act" can relieve many types of headaches, and even temporarily relieve certain cyclical-based cramps women experience*.

*or is that last part something a couple of gals told me just 'cuz they liked my junk and my methods?
/

A particularly strong climax can induce menstruation a few days early from the intensity of the rhythmic contractions.

And yes, I have indeed caused that to happen with a few ladies.

re: #132 Fenway_Nation

I still have dial-up, so it would be very unusual if things were loading smoothly.

Yikes. Let's start a "Let's Get Fenway High-Speed" Fund.

re: #68 gmsc

Has anyone else heard about the Wolfram Alpha search engine to be released later this month? You may already be familiar with Wolfram from their Mathematica software, their mathematics encyclopedia, or their page that demonstrates concepts from the TV show Numb3rs.

Instead of a search engine, in the manner you think of Google, this is a "fact engine". You can ask it simple things, such as "How high is Mt. Everest?" in plain English, and it will answer you. However, many search engines already handle that task quite adequately.

However, Wolfram Alpha can go quite a bit further than that, as the video below demonstrates. Check it out!

Youtube Video

Keeping an eye out for it.

Some reporters complained that recent demos produced spectacular results - on predetermined queries - but botched things pretty badly when presented with off-the-cuff questions. It's fairly common to do this sort of thing prior to launch, building a sort of software Potemkin Village to demonstrate concept and build hype. But it often turns out that there really isn't anybody behind those windows when the time comes to launch.

So I'll wait for the real debut before getting excited.

re: #134 Salamantis

A particularly strong climax can induce menstruation a few days early from the intensity of the rhythmic contractions.

And yes, I have indeed caused that to happen with a few ladies.

Stop blowing your own trumpet Sal.:)

re: #137 Erik The Red

Stop blowing your own trumpet Sal.:)

If any one of us fellers what post here could do that, we wouldn't be postin' here. Just sayin'.
/

re: #137 Erik The Red

Stop blowing your own trumpet Sal.:)

That's the ladies' job...;~)

re: #133 Sharmuta

The Illuminaughty rule the night.

Only the Illuminaughty can build her burgers.

re: #126 callahan23
No offence taken, Rastafarians cocider Ethiopia thier home, but the picture is not Ethiopian.
It would be like calling the America Africa because the African country of Liberia and America are linked because freed American slaves went back to Liberia.

re: #68 gmsc

Has anyone else heard about the Wolfram Alpha search engine to be released later this month? You may already be familiar with Wolfram from their Mathematica software, their mathematics encyclopedia, or their page that demonstrates concepts from the TV show Numb3rs.

Instead of a search engine, in the manner you think of Google, this is a "fact engine". You can ask it simple things, such as "How high is Mt. Everest?" in plain English, and it will answer you. However, many search engines already handle that task quite adequately.

However, Wolfram Alpha can go quite a bit further than that, as the video below demonstrates. Check it out!

[Video]

That's some bad ass stuff, dude.

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

re: #143 littleoldlady

Thanks, littleoldlady!

re: #143 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

{lol} Thanks and Good Morning

re: #143 littleoldlady

Morning LoL! How was your mother's day?

Sharmuta! :-)

Erik! :-)

Fenway! :-)

Mother's Day? When's that?

:-/

G'nite Lizards.

This is a bit late, but Happy Mother's Day to all you real mothers.

/and Happy Mother's Day to all you Lizardettes with children as well...
//;)

Slumbering! :-)

Whooosh!

re: #147 littleoldlady

The day after National Train Day.

Good morning LoL!

re: #150 Fenway_Nation

The day after National Train Day.

Figures. ;-)

Matrix! :-)

Today is my kid's last day of finals. I get to move her out of the dorms afterwards.

/my back is in spasm in anticipation...

hi lil ol lady, can I have some steak and eggs?

shanec99! :-)

You can have whatever you want!

/so long as you make it yourself
//whaddaya think this is? a restaurant or sumptin'?!

;-)

Some light reading to go with your fruit cups...bon appetite!

JOHN LOTT: Thugs In the White House

By John R. Lott, Jr.
Senior Research Scientist, University of Maryland/Author, Freedomnomics.

So much for any hope that the government would uphold rules and abiding by contracts. Instead, we keep getting examples of something else – that when President Obama fails to persuade firms to follow his wishes, he does not hesitate to use threats of financial destruction.

re: #152 littleoldlady

Figures. ;-)

Matrix! :-)

Today is my kid's last day of finals. I get to move her out of the dorms afterwards.

/my back is in spasm in anticipation...

My back's in constant spasm anyway :-/

I wish my Finals were done today!

Well...g'nite lizards. Hope everyone had a great weekend...

'Night Fenway! :-)

re: #157 Fenway_Nation

Well...g'nite lizards. Hope everyone had a great weekend...

Good night, man. You certainly had a good night tonight.

/not a fan of Boston sports...ah well!

Happy Mother's Day to all of you late-night Mothers!

re: #160 haakondahl

haakon! :-)

I'm an early-morning mother, but thanks anyway! ;-)

/and early morning mother who needs to go do mother-things :-/

Good day, ALL!™

Gotta Love The Irish

Six retired Irishmen are playing poker in O'Leary's apartment
when Paddy Murphy loses $500.00 on a single hand, clutches his chest,
and drops dead at the table. Showing respect for their fallen brother,
The other five continue playing standing up.

Michael O'Conner looks around and asks, "Oh, me boys, someone
got's to tell Paddy's wife. Who will it be?"

They draw straws. Paul Gallagher picks the short one. They tell
him to be discreet, be gentle, don't make a bad situation any worse.
"Discreet? I'm the most discreet Irishmen you'll ever meet.

Discretion Is me middle name. Leave it to me."

Gallagher goes over to Murphy's house and knocks on the door.
Mrs. Murphy answers, and asks what he wants.
Gallagher declares, "Your husband just lost $500.00, and is
Afraid to come Home."

"Tell him to drop dead!", says Murphy's wife.

"I'll go tell him." says Gallagher.

Into a Belfast pub comes Paddy Murphy, looking like he'd just
been run over by a train. His arm is in a sling, his nose is broken, his
face is cut, and bruised, and he's walking with a limp.

"What happened to you?" asks Sean, the bartender.

"Jamie O'Conner and me had a fight," says Paddy.

"That little O'Conner?" says Sean, "He couldn't do that to you, he
must have had
something in his hand."

"That he did," says Paddy, "a shovel is what he had, and a
terrible lickin' he gave me with it."

"Well," says Sean, "you should have defended yourself. Didn't
you have something in your hand?"
That I did," said Paddy, "Mrs. O'Conner's breast, and a thing of
beauty it was; but useless in a fight."

An Irishman who had a little too much to drink is driving home
from the city one night and, of course, his car is weaving violently all
over the road.

A cop pulls him over. "So," says the cop to the driver, "where
have ya been?"

"Why, I've been to the pub of course," slurs the drunk.

"Well," says the cop, "it looks like you've had quite a few to
drink this evening."

"I did all right," the drunk says with a smile.

"Did you know," says the cop, standing straight, and folding his
arms across his chest, "that a few intersections back, your wife fell
out of your car?"

"Oh, thank heavens," sighs the drunk. "for a minute there, I
thought I'd gone deaf."

Brenda O'Malley is home making dinner, as usual, when

Tim Finnegan arrives at her door.
"Brenda, may I come in?" he asks. "I've somethin' to tell ya".

"Of course you can come in, you're always welcome, Tim. But
where's my husband?"

"That's what I'm here to be telling ya, Brenda. There was an
accident down at the Guinness brewery"

"Oh, God no!" cries Brenda. "Please don't tell me."

"I must, Brenda. Your husband Shamus is dead and gone. I'm
sorry. Finally, she looked up at Tim. "How did it happen, Tim?"

"It was terrible, Brenda. He fell into a vat of Guinness Stout,
and drowned."

"Oh my dear Jesus! But you must tell me true, Tim, did he at
least go quickly?"

"Well, Brenda, no. In fact, he got out three times to pee."

Mary Clancy goes up to Father O'Grady after his

Sunday morning Service, and she's in tears.

He says, "So what's bothering you, Mary my dear?"
She says, "Oh, Father, I've got terrible news. My husband
passed away last night."

The priest says, "Oh, Mary, that's terrible. Tell me, Mary, did
he have any last requests?"

She says, "That he did, Father."

The priest says, "What did he ask, Mary?"
She says, "He said, 'Please Mary, put down that damn gun...' "

Morning Lizards.

Did I just kill this thread with bad Irish jokes?

re: #167 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Hey rs now there are 2 of us here. Morning. :)

2 are better than none.

a third here irish jokes and all.

1 more and we can play a little 2 on 2 first to 21 wins.

erik what is the weather like by you?

does erik the red know if it is raining?

re: #173 yochanan

erik what is the weather like by you?

Going into winter here in Durban. About the same as Orlando winter. Mid 70's today and sunny. The last 2 days have been cold and wet though.

Good morning, Lizards.

re: #176 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

re: #176 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

And a very good morning to you, Godess.

re: #176 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

{goddess}

{rightside}
{callahan23}
{yochanan}
{Erik the Red}

going into spring here in chicagostan depending on which way the wind is blowing it can be cold and damp or hot and sunny with thunder storms.

Hi guys. How's it going? Good day to be a Boston sports fan yesterday.

Good Morning all this cool but sunny Monday AM.

{FBV}
{soxfan4life}

Sigh, I've got to get ready for school. Have a great day!

re: #184 goddessoftheclassroom

{FBV}
{soxfan4life}

Sigh, I've got to get ready for school. Have a great day!

You too and I hope the students are good for you today.

re: #183 soxfan4life

You see Pat Burrell up to bat yesterday when the Celtics scored the game winning basket? Crowd went nuts, scared him the poop out of the batter's box.

re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hi guys. How's it going? Good day to be a Boston sports fan yesterday.

I just read about it. Yeah, READ. I'm visiting mom who has cable, but refuses to pay extra for a converter box and gets only 15 or so channels (well, for about 32 more days when the digital conversion happens...).

re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You see Pat Burrell up to bat yesterday when the Celtics scored the game winning basket? Crowd went nuts, scared him the poop out of the batter's box.

Missed it, the wife decided we needed to have a knock down drag out last night, so I had to catch late night ESPN News to find out the score for all 3 games.

OH WOW...Y'ALL HAVE TO READ THIS!

"Despite how the conflict has been portrayed by our glorious media, if you gave any U.S. soldier a gun with two bullets in it, and he found himself in an elevator with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Osama bin Laden, there's a good chance that Nancy Pelosi would get shot twice, and Harry Reid and bin Laden would be strangled to death."

-CBS Sports golf analyst David Feherty

Yeah, he's having to apologize.

Hey Folks, or "GOOD MORNING!"

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Sykes thing and that are one more example of "Conservatives have no sense of humor and can't take a joke" and "Liberals demand an apology".

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OH WOW...Y'ALL HAVE TO READ THIS!

-CBS Sports golf analyst David Feherty

Yeah, he's having to apologize.

He already has.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I'm sure Wanda Sykes will be just as fast with her non-apology.

re: #192 soxfan4life

MMTA.

Good morning.

Look for the market to open lower today as profit taking from last week's rise occurs, and there is also some doubts over the Stress Test results released last week.

The market rose approximately 4.5% last week and there is starting to be the growing sense that the worst of the market downturn is over.

On the other hand, others of course will still be saying that things are horrible and the world is coming to an end.

U.S. Recovery May Start, Then Sputter as Zarnowitz Rule Is Bent

May 11 (Bloomberg) -- The Zarnowitz rule may live, but not for long.

The current contraction may so far be following the economic law named for Victor Zarnowitz, the late expert on business cycles: Deep recessions are almost always followed by rapid rebounds. Consumer confidence rose by the most in more than two years in April as surging stock prices and falling mortgage rates boosted optimism. A gauge of U.S. manufacturing activity had its biggest bounce since 2005 as companies eased up on efforts to slash inventories. Even the crippled housing market has shown signs of stabilizing.

The risk is that any snapback may end up stunted by structural impediments -- from heavily indebted consumers to a hobbled banking system -- that continue to weigh on the economy and may prevent a sustained run of rapid expansion.

“We could see one or two quarters of 6, 5, 4 percent growth,” says Joel Naroff, president of Naroff Economic Advisors Inc. in Holland, Pennsylvania, who was the top forecaster of the U.S. economy in Bloomberg News surveys last year. “But that doesn’t mean that the economy will be in good shape. We’ll just be going from truly gruesome to bad.”

re: #194 3 wood

Mornin' Wood!

Tennessee is allowing guns in bars?! Are they nuts?

re: #194 3 wood

That would be kinda a 9 iron or sand wedge op-ed don't ya think?

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin' Wood!

You just had to, didn't you?

I thought Tennessee and nuts were one and the same///

re: #196 MandyManners

But they'll pistol-whip your ass in Tennessee if they catch you smoking in a bar.

re: #198 MandyManners

What? Just said good morning to my friend 3 wood.

re: #196 MandyManners

Tennessee is allowing guns in bars?! Are they nuts?

Good morning!

re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But they'll pistol-whip your ass in Tennessee if they catch you smoking in a bar.

I was just writing something like that. I want my thunder back.

re: #180 goddessoftheclassroom
...sigh...

re: #203 Bloodnok

i can haz eyz in yur monitur!

Obama to beef up anti-trust enforcement:
Administration Plans to Strengthen Antitrust Rules

WASHINGTON — President Obama’s top antitrust official this week plans to restore an aggressive enforcement policy against corporations that use their market dominance to elbow out competitors or to keep them from gaining market share.

The new enforcement policy would reverse the Bush administration’s approach, which strongly favored defendants against antitrust claims. It would restore a policy that led to the landmark antitrust lawsuits against Microsoft and Intel in the 1990s.

The head of the Justice Department’s antitrust division, Christine A. Varney, is to announce the policy reversal in a speech she will give on Monday before the Center for American Progress, a liberal policy research organization. She will deliver the same speech on Tuesday to the United States Chamber of Commerce.

Ms. Varney is expected to say that the administration rejects the impulse to go easy on antitrust enforcement during weak economic times.

She will assert instead that severe recessions can provide dangerous incentives for large and dominating companies to engage in predatory behavior that harms consumers and weakens competition. The announcement is aimed at making sure that no court or party to a lawsuit can cite the Bush administration policy as the government’s official view in any pending cases.

In the speeches, Ms. Varney is expected to explicitly warn judges and litigants in antitrust lawsuits not involving the government to ignore the Bush administration’s policies, which were formally outlined in a report by the Justice Department last year. The report applied legal standards that made it difficult to bring new cases involving monopoly and predatory practices.

It's going to be real hard to run a business for the next 3.5 years.

re: #197 nightwatch

That would be kinda a 9 iron or sand wedge op-ed don't ya think?

Knock down 9 iron with no back spin.

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin' Wood!

Good morning Veg.

re: #206 3 wood

The untangling is going to take 100 years after the next 3 and a half years.

Got to get ready for work so I can pay for Obama's next Apology Tour.

re: #206 3 wood

It's going to be real hard to run a business for the next 3.5 years.

Isn't that the best way to get us out of a recession?///

re: #206 3 wood

Obama to beef up anti-trust enforcement:
Administration Plans to Strengthen Antitrust Rules

It's going to be real hard to run a business for the next 3.5 years.

7.5 years if we don't get un-screwed real fast on the right.

Going on memory here: I heard yesterday that FCBBHO will be meeting with people from several large medical organizations today to figure out how to fuck us over yet again. From I can remember, these companies will be holding down their costs for a period so as to make things easier for the government to take over health insurance.

re: #206 3 wo
Well then if that be your game...5 iron and drive for the pin!
To HELL with the traps!

re: #212 haakondahl

Haak? Who dat in your avatar?

re: #213 MandyManners

Going on memory here: I heard yesterday that FCBBHO will be meeting with people from several large medical organizations today to figure out how to fuck us over yet again. From I can remember, these companies will be holding down their costs for a period so as to make things easier for the government to take over health insurance.

AAARGH! I think I'll take the dog down to the park. BBL.

re: #215 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Haak? Who dat in your avatar?

Some British actor?

re: #216 Bloodnok

AAARGH! I think I'll take the dog down to the park. BBL.

Name one tree FCBBHO and let your dog do his stuff on it.

Heck, name all trees FCBBHO.

re: #213 MandyManners

Frankly, given some of the "Throw everything up on the wall and let's see what sticks" mentality of some of these young DOCtors that I have the pain of working with in the E R, I look forward to the day when they have to get Mommy's O K for the diagnostics...serious these new pups over order tests to the 10th degree and attitude! I have shoes older than some of these rooks!

re: #213 MandyManners

I've looked but I cannot find this story. I don't recall if I heard it on Fox or on NPR. Help?

re: #215 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Haak? Who dat in your avatar?

Got it, it is Ian Richardson (British as can be).

re: #220 nightwatch

Frankly, given some of the "Throw everything up on the wall and let's see what sticks" mentality of some of these young DOCtors that I have the pain of working with in the E R, I look forward to the day when they have to get Mommy's O K for the diagnostics...serious these new pups over order tests to the 10th degree and attitude! I have shoes older than some of these rooks!

Maybe they're afraid of killing someone through an incorrect diagnosis.

re: #221 MandyManners

I've looked but I cannot find this story. I don't recall if I heard it on Fox or on NPR. Help?

Here you go, this guy is unbelievable, hope all those hope and change idiots are really happy now.

[Link: www.comcast.net...]

re: #223 MandyManners

Maybe they're afraid of killing someone through an incorrect diagnosis.

With all the malpractice lawsuits out there, it would only seem prudent to run every test available. If they really want to lower the cost of healthcare, they need to limit lawsuit awards.

re: #223 MandyManners

Maybe they're afraid of killing someone through an incorrect diagnosis.

More likely they are scared of a lawsuit. Medical diagnostics is not an exact science.

re: #221 MandyManners

I've looked but I cannot find this story. I don't recall if I heard it on Fox or on NPR. Help?

Maybe here:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #223 MandyManners

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama will aim on Monday to build support for a sweeping overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system by highlighting a drive for greater efficiency he predicts could save trillions of dollars.

Obama has invited several large trade groups, such as the American Medical Association, America's Health Insurance Plans and the American Hospital Association, to an event to discuss ways to wring cost savings from the health system.

At a 12:30 p.m. EDT event, the trade groups will present Obama a letter pledging to reduce the growth of health spending by 1.5 percentage points annually through more efficient practices, according to White House officials who briefed reporters on the event.

The cost savings would be achieved through steps such as streamlining paperwork and changing the way hospitals deliver and bill for services to patients.

Obama aides said that given the explosion in healthcare costs projected to take place in coming years as the U.S. population ages, the slower growth rate for health care would save $2 trillion over 10 years.

"We cannot continue down the same dangerous road we've been traveling for so many years, with costs that are out of control, because reform is not a luxury that can be postponed, but a necessity that cannot wait," Obama will say, according to excerpts.

"That is why these groups are voluntarily coming together to make an unprecedented commitment," he will say.

"Over the next ten years -- from 2010 to 2019 -- they are pledging to cut the growth rate of national health care spending by 1.5 percentage points each year -- an amount that's equal to over $2 trillion."

SNIP
Some of the streamlining ideas to be highlighted at the White House event on Monday would require legislation.

Lawmakers are already considering some of moves to improve patient care and bring down costs by basing payments to doctors and hospitals on the quality of care given, not just the number of procedures and treatments.

Health-policy experts say big savings could be achieved in healthcare by cutting down on unnecessary treatments.

How does one determine the quality of care? Maybe it has something to do with the last sentence: few treatments = better care?!

re: #225 soxfan4life

With all the malpractice lawsuits out there, it would only seem prudent to run every test available. If they really want to lower the cost of healthcare, they need to limit lawsuit awards.

Well said. I think Texas has capped the amount that can be paid out and the Dr's. malpractice insurance has gone down.

Interesting the Pope honors the 6 million holocaust victims by calling for a Palestinian state inside of Israel.

[Link: www.comcast.net...]

re: #229 MandyManners

Oops! That was from soxfan4life's No. 225.

re: #226 Erik The Red

More likely they are scared of a lawsuit. Medical diagnostics is not an exact science.

Which is nicely demonstrated in the series 'House, M.D.'.

re: #233 callahan23

Which is nicely demonstrated in the series 'House, M.D.'.

Great show. But it is TV.

re: #225 soxfan4life

With all the malpractice lawsuits out there, it would only seem prudent to run every test available. If they really want to lower the cost of healthcare, they need to limit lawsuit awards.

Isn't tort reform a goal of the GOP?

re: #230 Erik The Red

Well said. I think Texas has capped the amount that can be paid out and the Dr's. malpractice insurance has gone down.

Unfortunately having a lawyer in the White House as well as countless lawyers on Capital Hill we have zero chance of something like this happening.

re: #226 Erik The Red
Well that can be said in Kal-e-forn-e-a.. the law-suit Capital of the world!

re: #235 MandyManners

Isn't tort reform a goal of the GOP?

I think it is just something they talk about, but refuse to act on. If it is a goal, why didn't they push it when they held the white House and both Houses of Congress?

re: #235 MandyManners

Used to be. Now the GOP is rudderless, and listing badly to port.

re: #239 rightside

Used to be. Now the GOP is rudderless, and listing badly to port.

I thought they had capsized.

re: #226 Erik The Red

More likely they are scared of a lawsuit. Medical diagnostics is not an exact science.

Of course that could be a strong reason but, perhaps they also like the advantage that advanced diagnostic procedures give them.

A few years ago The Kid slipped and fell on the wet floor of my garage. I took him to the E.R. immediately. Years and years ago, they might've done an X-Ray and I would've been given a list of things to check for over the next 24-48 hours. For this visit, an MRI was routine. I was given that list also but, I was a lot more confident that he was gonna' be okay because the MRI is a sophisticated tool.

re: #239 rightside

Steady Shipmate...Damage Control Party EN-ROUTE...

re: #229 MandyManners

Whenever politicians come up with ideas that can save us trillions of dollars it scares the shit out of me.

I had an interesting conversation with my doctor about the coming threat of socialized medicine. He's an older guy, very good, with a thriving practice. Basically, he says that if they start telling him what to do and how much he can get paid, he will be working a lot less. Right now he and the other doctors and nurses work well beyond their office hours. If they socialize, there isn't much incentive to break your behind. he'll be taking his full lunch hour and quiting at 5. Anything after 5:00 will be cash. Can't say I blame him. Now if I can just convince my daughter to get out of pre-med and go into engineering...

re: #234 Erik The Red

Great show. But it is TV.

No, it's not. IT'S HUGH LAURIE!

re: #212 haakondahl

Haak? Why dat your avatar?

re: #238 soxfan4life

I think it is just something they talk about, but refuse to act on. If it is a goal, why didn't they push it when they held the white House and both Houses of Congress?

Maybe because the plaintiffs attorneys in the ABA were pretty vocal.

re: #244 VioletTiger

I had an interesting conversation with my doctor about the coming threat of socialized medicine. He's an older guy, very good, with a thriving practice. Basically, he says that if they start telling him what to do and how much he can get paid, he will be working a lot less. Right now he and the other doctors and nurses work well beyond their office hours. If they socialize, there isn't much incentive to break your behind. he'll be taking his full lunch hour and quiting at 5. Anything after 5:00 will be cash. Can't say I blame him. Now if I can just convince my daughter to get out of pre-med and go into engineering...

Why in the world would someone want to incur the debt of medical school, only to be limited by the government on how much you can earn?

re: #244 VioletTiger

Business School...we need some new blood...

re: #239 rightside

Used to be. Now the GOP is rudderless, and listing badly to port.

As Sox observed in No. 239, it didn't act when it had the advantage.

re: #238 soxfan4life

I think it is just something they talk about, but refuse to act on. If it is a goal, why didn't they push it when they held the white House and both Houses of Congress?

Good morning. Most legislators, Republican & Democrat are attorneys.
Lawyers don't want tort reform

re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whenever politicians come up with ideas that can save us trillions of dollars it scares the shit out of me.

Especially when we remember that they get the best health care in the nation, and we're the ones paying for it.

re: #251 opnion

Good morning. Most legislators, Republican & Democrat are attorneys.
Lawyers don't want tort reform

Kinda like asking chickens to vote for the fox.

re: #250 MandyManners

Agreed. Wasn't that part of the class of '94? Tort reform that is?

Along those lines, my co-worker and I often talk about how many in congress/WH are lawyers. Anyone have any link/proof of how many there are? We guess over half are. That depends on what the meaning of the word is is though.

re: #251 opnion

Good morning. Most legislators, Republican & Democrat are attorneys.
Lawyers don't want tort reform

Defense attorneys for insurers and other businesses do.

From what I've seen over the years, plaintiffs' attorneys tend to be liberal and (civil) defense attorneys tend to be conservative.

re: #254 rightside

Agreed. Wasn't that part of the class of '94? Tort reform that is?

Along those lines, my co-worker and I often talk about how many in congress/WH are lawyers. Anyone have any link/proof of how many there are? We guess over half are. That depends on what the meaning of the word is is though.

I'd estimate it's closer to 65 per cent. Maybe 75 per cent.

Here's some good news for Monday AM. Although I worry about how the MFM will make it look like a foreign policy victory for 0.

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