Telegraphing their intent already?

Really not to much different than that offer to move to Uganda ha?

SO that is the 57 states Obama said he visited.

Funny...by Obama's count there are as many US states as Middle East States...57

So thats where O got the idea there were 57 states... Perhaps it shows where his real loyalties are

/

Veiled threats. eff you.

SO, to boil it down: Israel gives up everything, gets attacked, and takes it, or there'll be a war.

How do these options differ?

Is "recognizing Israel" how arabs define "Identifying a target"?
I think so.

a “57-state solution

thank Goodness the president has already visited all of them

I am just too slow today...

Our new foreign policy is to use consensus. Was the state department taken over by a bunch of disgruntled NYU students?

That little shit in Jordan forgets how tenuous his throne is and who's military might really backs it?

So, what's the deal? And does Indonesia know that Jordan is offering them as a playing piece in a vague deal with Israel, with whom, so far as I know, Jordan does not currently have any official beef?

Funny, I thought Jordan would be more supportive of the original 2 state solution, considering thats the only reason they exist.

News Flash to Obama and the King:

Israel is a Democracy.
It will do what is in it's national interest to do and what it's leadership decides to do with the consent of it's people.

At this rate, Obama will go down in history as the "57 President." Strange how the number keeps coming up in reference to him.

We're certainly getting 57 varieties of socialism.

Peh. 57 varieties of anti-semitism. Next plan.

this solution reminds us that Barry is a caver not a negotiator when it comes to outside-the-country stuff.

As for the recognition stuff, one can only think of Good Morning Vietnam:

"Didn't we meet last year at the Peninsula Club?"

re: #2 Nevergiveup

Really not to much different than that offer to move to Uganda ha?

I've always wanted to see someone do a novel in which that offer got accepted.

re: #17 zombie

The Heinz Presidency?

But 57 states are not enough for them. They must have 58.

Given Obama's infamous gaffe, I thought, from the headline, that this was a joke. Guess not.

Maybe our caver-in-Chief needs a new title...something about spelunking...Spelunker-in-Chief?

and jordan speaks for how many states in the arab/muslim world?

57 states are already in the Islamic organization. So if a 2-state solution is Israel and Palestine, a 57-state solution is what? The Islamic countries absorb the current Israel and "Palestinian" terrortories?

I wonder what king Abdullah means by the term "open arms"

The hitch? They would recognize that Israel existed, not exists.

/bastards

re: #15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Funny, I thought Jordan would be more supportive of the original 2 state solution, considering thats the only reason they exist.

Jordan will do ANYTHING to prevent the world from noticing that they might have some personal responsibility to the people of the West Bank, who rightfully are their damn citizens, and who they have treated like dreck.

technical question here...why would say "conflict between Arabs OR Muslims" "Or"? Are there Arabs that aren't Muslim? I realize there are Muslims who aren't Arabs.

re: #21 rightside

The Heinz Presidency?

Goodness knows it's gonna be a big pickle.

Official state recognition of Israel will in no way diminish the rampant genocidal anti-Semitism on the "Muslim Street."

re: #17 zombie

At this rate, Obama will go down in history as the "57 President." Strange how the number keeps coming up in reference to him.

We're certainly getting 57 varieties of socialism.

You would have figured that we wouldn't see that number unless Sen. Kerry-Heinz had been elected. (h/t Pillage Idiot.)

This is getting far too eerie. O yakked about 57 states during the campaign as the number of US states, and most people laughed it off as a gaffe. How the hell are the Obots going to to spin this?

re: #21 rightside

The Heinz Presidency?

thank G-d GWB prevented that from happening

57 states? In Heinz-sight, it sounds like a good formula./

re: #28 KenJen

I wonder what king Abdullah means by the term "open arms"

I think it's a mistranslation - "open arms" used to translate the phrase "open maw" or "open hostilities.

re: #24 Orangutan

Maybe our caver-in-Chief needs a new title...something about spelunking...Spelunker-in-Chief?

How about simply Dumbass?

Netanyahu meeting with Obama decides Mid-East’s future, says Abdullah

President Obama’s critical meeting with Binyamin Netanyahu next week has become the acid test for the Administration’s commitment to peace in the Middle East, King Abdullah of Jordan said yesterday.

The monarch does not conceal his feelings about the Israeli leader. He described their last encounter – 10 years ago when he had just come to the throne – as the “least pleasant” of his reign. But he, and President Mubarak of Egypt, are expected to meet the Israeli leader before his trip to Washington, where the future course of the region could be decided.

The King said that he was prepared to believe what Israelis have told him — that a right-wing Government in Israel is better able to deliver peace than the Left.

“All eyes will be looking to Washington,” he said. “If there are no clear signals and no clear directives to all of us, there will be a feeling that this is just another American Government that is going to let us all down.”

If Israel procrastinated on a two-state solution, or if there was no clear American vision on what should happen this year, the “tremendous credibility” that Mr Obama had built up in the Arab world would evaporate overnight.

And if peace negotiations were delayed, there would be another conflict between Arabs or Muslims and Israel in the next 12-18 months, with implications far beyond the Middle East.

“If the call is in May that this is not the right time or we are not interested, then the world is going to be sucked into another conflict in the Middle East,” the King said.

He broke off from his busy schedule hosting the Pope in Jordan to give his warning to The Times. He was the first Arab leader to call on President Obama in Washington two weeks ago, and is now leading the hectic Arab efforts to respond to the Administration’s determination to seek a comprehensive peace.

Once again, it's all up to the U.S. and Israel to give the Arabs what they want - or else.

Let's see, the Arabs will eventually recognize Israel's right to exist, allow Israelis entry into Arab countries and allow El Al Airlines to overfly Arab territory without being shot down. In return, all the Israelis have to do is give up even more of their territory than they already have and agree "to talk" about the future status of Jerusalem.

When do the Israelis stop allowing themselves to be blackmailed by dishonest Arab brokers and start dealing from a position of strength? I think the time is now and I would hope that Netanyahu's response to Obama's presentation of these Arab demands will be one word: ENOUGH!

re: #31 Big Steve

technical question here...why would say "conflict between Arabs OR Muslims" "Or"? Are there Arabs that aren't Muslim? I realize there are Muslims who aren't Arabs.

There are Arab Christians, some Druze (a controversial matter), etc.

re: #31 Big Steve

technical question here...why would say "conflict between Arabs OR Muslims" "Or"? Are there Arabs that aren't Muslim? I realize there are Muslims who aren't Arabs.

Yeah, there are Christian Arabs. Some great and very old communities of them.

re: #39 Leonidas Hoplite

How about simply Dumbass?

I prefer, "putz".

re: #33 zombie

Official state recognition of Israel will in no way diminish the rampant genocidal anti-Semitism on the "Muslim Street."

The only recognition of Israel the Muslim Street is willing to give is as a historical footnote.

re: #21 rightside

The Heinz Presidency?

We came this close to getting a Heinz Presidency in 2004 (with John Heinz-Kerry). Thinking we were safe, we let our guard down in 2008, and those sneaky Heinz agents nabbed the White House when we were least expecting it.

Israel should be looking at 57 different ways to give them their 72 virgins.

re: #39 Leonidas Hoplite

How about simply Dumbass?

That's all about the party logo ... I am getting very specific here. Barry's a spelunker from way back ... it's how you rise in the Chicago Machine.

re: #42 Guanxi88

There are Arab Christians, some Druze (a controversial matter), etc.

Forgot the Druze. I shouldn't forget the Druze, Israel has benefited greatly from having them.

Last week, there were articles that Abdullah was proposing the Saudi peace plan but without the "right of return"; the Arab countries would grant the "refugees" citizenship, at least those that didn't go to "Palestine".
It was immediately rejected by the Arab League.

This time, Abdullah won't give details. I think this is going to be a "surrender or be attacked". And is the 12-18 months the time frame for Iran to have nukes?
G-d will protect Israel, if the Israelis don't give up.

re: #3 NonNativeTexan

SO that is the 57 states Obama said he visited.

Guess it was a Freudian slip and not stoopidity.

Gates. Admiral Mullen briefing on the new leadership in Afghanistan on CNN now. Fresh eyes, counter insurgency experience for the change.

The Organzation of the Islamic Conference is ready to revoke the Cairo Declaration?

Headquarters Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Official languages Arabic, English, French
Membership 57 member states
Leaders - Secretary-General Ekmeleddin İhsanoğlu
Website [Link: www.oic-oci.org...]

Don´t hold your breath for it.

re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist

Forgot the Druze. I shouldn't forget the Druze, Israel has benefited greatly from having them.

Probably some ethnic Arab Zoroastrians and such, out on the Iran borderlands. Don't know.

re: #41 MacDuff

“All eyes will be looking to Washington,” he said. “If there are no clear signals and no clear directives to all of us, there will be a feeling that this is just another American Government that is going to let us all down.”

Let the manipulation begin! Obama projects easy pickins.

re: #33 zombie

Official state recognition of Israel will in no way diminish the rampant genocidal anti-Semitism on the "Muslim Street."

But Obama is popular on the Muslim Street!

He'll talk with them it'll all be okey dokey!

Obama more popular than U.S. among Arabs: survey

In contrast, Obama received favorable ratings averaging 48 percent in the region as a whole. Approval ran as high as 58 percent in Jordan and was lowest among Egyptians, who gave Obama favorable ratings of 35 percent, Ipsos said.

re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist

Forgot the Druze. I shouldn't forget the Druze, Israel has benefited greatly from having them.

Druze - the zionists of the Arab world; the few I ever met were more devoted to the survival and success of the state of Israel than the average X-tabbing raver from Tel Aviv.

re: #31 Big Steve

technical question here...why would say "conflict between Arabs OR Muslims" "Or"? Are there Arabs that aren't Muslim? I realize there are Muslims who aren't Arabs.

There are Jewish, Christian, and Agnostic Arabs, as well as other faiths. Islam is a forced graft.

Might as well ask if there are any Non-Christian Americans. Either question is a broad brush.

re: #52 avanti

Gates. Admiral Mullen briefing on the new leadership in Afghanistan on CNN now. Fresh eyes, counter insurgency experience for the change.

Sorry, forgot the O.T. tag.

re: #41 MacDuff

Once again, it's all up to the U.S. and Israel to give the Arabs what they want - or else.

Let's see, the Arabs will eventually recognize Israel's right to exist, allow Israelis entry into Arab countries and allow El Al Airlines to overfly Arab territory without being shot down. In return, all the Israelis have to do is give up even more of their territory than they already have and agree "to talk" about the future status of Jerusalem.

When do the Israelis stop allowing themselves to be blackmailed by dishonest Arab brokers and start dealing from a position of strength? I think the time is now and I would hope that Netanyahu's response to Obama's presentation of these Arab demands will be one word: ENOUGH!

They'll recognize all this once Israel is either judenrein or the Jews there are dhimmis.

re: #51 redstateredneck

It was the teleprompter's fault.

OT - sorry folks but I gotta go now - it may be a while before I get the chance to post on LGF again, but please don't worry about my health, I just have a lot of things I have to do and don't know when I'll be able to get back.
Hope y'all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

re: #57 Guanxi88

Druze - the zionists of the Arab world; the few I ever met were more devoted to the survival and success of the state of Israel than the average X-tabbing raver from Tel Aviv.

Druze rock.

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

Probably some ethnic Arab Zoroastrians and such, out on the Iran borderlands. Don't know.

I always think Persian when I think Zardoshi, but there are probably Arabs out there too.

re: #43 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, there are Christian Arabs. Some great and very old communities of them.

And the Christian Arabs are being systematically persecuted and run out of Muslim controlled lands everywhere.

Charles nails it:

... how many offers of peace are combined with threats of annihilation?

And of course that's the problem with Saudi Arabia's peace offer:

Isreal will do this that and the other and in return we might smile in their direction.

These aren't peace offers, but ultimatums.

Fausta, BTW, notes that this isn't the first time that King Abdullah has raised the specter of war if his sage advice wasn't followed. Presumably by raising the worst case scenario Abduallah figures he can demonstrate his gravitas, even if the time frame for the expected disaster keeps on shifting.

re: #62 realwest

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Hope y'all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

take care, RW

re: #24 Orangutan

Maybe our caver-in-Chief needs a new title...something about spelunking...Spelunker-in-Chief?

Sinkhole-in-Chief?

I think Israel would do a great job governing Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Egypt.

re: #62 realwest

Take care, RW. Godspeed.

re: #62 realwest

OT - sorry folks but I gotta go now - it may be a while before I get the chance to post on LGF again, but please don't worry about my health, I just have a lot of things I have to do and don't know when I'll be able to get back.
Hope y'all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

{Realwest} I will miss you greatly.
I wish you all the best, luck and health in the world.
See you soon!?!

re: #69 buzzsawmonkey

"It's always 'Marsh Arabs!' Marsh Arabs, Marsh Arabs, Marsh Arabs!"

--from "The Ba'athist Bunch"

"I tink I broke my druze"

re: #64 Guanxi88

I always think Persian when I think Zardoshi, but there are probably Arabs out there too.

I really don't know, but there's so much ethnic mixing out there, I can't imagine that there aren't some Arabs who adopted the religion at some point.

The little kinglet should put his money where his mouth is, create a Palestinian state out of his "kingdom" which was conquered for his clan by the British, and retire to his estate on the Riviera.

But he warned: “If we delay our peace negotiations, then there is going to be another conflict between Arabs or Muslims and Israel in the next 12-18 months.”

I'm sure there's a line on this conflict in Vegas already.
/

Tell us something we don't know.

re: #62 realwest

OT - sorry folks but I gotta go now - it may be a while before I get the chance to post on LGF again, but please don't worry about my health, I just have a lot of things I have to do and don't know when I'll be able to get back.
Hope y'all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Take care, real.

Anyone else think the 12-18 months also refers to Iran's time frame for having sufficient nuclear weapons?

re: #62 realwest You will be missed. Prayers, well wishes, and godspeed!

Personally I think the little kinglet should carry out his threat/promise of war. It worked out so well when his daddy got his ass kicked the last time.

re: #62 realwest

OT - sorry folks but I gotta go now - it may be a while before I get the chance to post on LGF again, but please don't worry about my health, I just have a lot of things I have to do and don't know when I'll be able to get back.
Hope y'all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Take care, real, you will be missed.

re: #80 Alouette

Personally I think the little kinglet should carry out his threat/promise of war. It worked out so well when his daddy got his ass kicked the last EVERY time.

Fixed

re: #12 Baier

Our new foreign policy is to use consensus.

...and the 2010 con-census will be even more favorable!
/Rahm off

After all, how many offers of peace are combined with threats of annihilation?

Only offers by mafia dons and Arabs who are used to getting their way.

With this White House, anything is possible, including bullying Israel into making concessions it has no business ever considering. Where are concessions on the part of Jordan to stop calling Palestinians refugees and treat them as the citizens that they truly are - given that some were displaced from Transjordan in 1967 (back in the days when Jordan held on to parts of mandate Palestine that were meant for the Arabs from 1948 until 1967 and which never were considered to be occupation, even though it was no different from what Israel did after winning said territories in 1967 (okay, one difference, it was Arabs occupying Arab territory, and not Jews occupying territory, period)).

This latest plan has the same chance of success as all the rest - zero.

The Palestinians - Hamas and Fatah - do not accept Israel's existence, and will continue seeking it's destruction at all costs. Every ceasefire is a hudna - a preparation for the next battle with Israel, and every utterance is designed to undermine Israel's sovereignty, will to defend itself, and social, psychic, and physical capability to do so.

Where are the concessions from the Arab world to make peace happen? Where is the demand that Syria cease supporting international terrorism, including harboring Hamas and Hizbullah, along with the terrorists that continue infiltrating into Iraq and which seek to murder Americans and Iraqis alike?

It's always up to Israel to make concessions, and that's never going to cut it (although the Arabs hope to cut Israel to ribbons with all these concessions so that sooner or later, Israel's existence is no more).

20:35 Saudi judge says it`s OK for men to beat wives (AP)

Yeah our good allies the Saudis?

re: #65 Son of the Black Dog

And the Christian Arabs are being systematically persecuted and run out of Muslim controlled lands everywhere.

SOP for Islam

re: #81 buzzsawmonkey

Your plan makes all the sense in the world, which is why it has no chance. The Arabs adopt reason and common sense when dealing with Israel? Now that, unfortunately, is crazy talk.

re: #86 Nevergiveup

20:35 Saudi judge says it`s OK for men to beat wives (AP)

Yeah our good allies the Saudis?

Old news, must be a slow news day for AP.

The only reason we are allies with the Saudis is because they have us by the short hairs with their oil.

I know, I state the obvious.

57 Flavors - One Main Ingredient. Jew-Hatred.

O.T. Shuttle Atlantis is up.
H'm, how many Muslim countries have put anything in space, or anybody?

re: #78 Kosh's Shadow

Anyone else think the 12-18 months also refers to Iran's time frame for having sufficient nuclear weapons?

I think the 12-18 months could also be a fake-out, something to make us relax because Iran is likely to get workable nukes earlier.

Their 57-state solution? Join Facebook!

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He motioned for his nurse to come near.

"Yes, Father?" said the nurse.

"I would really like to see Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi before I die," whispered the priest.

"I'll see what I can do, Father," replied the nurse.

The nurse sent the request to them and waited for a response. Soon the word arrived. Harry and Nancy would be delighted to visit the priest. As they went to the hospital, Harry commented to Nancy "I don't know why the old priest wants to see us, but it will certainly help our images." Nancy couldn't help but agree.

When they arrived at the dying man's room, the priest took Nancy 's hand in his right hand and Harry's hand in his left. There was silence and a look of serenity settled across the old priest's face.

Finally Nancy spoke. "Father, of all the people you could have chosen, why did you choose us to be with you as you near the end?"

The old priest slowly replied. "I have always tried to pattern my life after our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." His voice trailed off . . .

After a brief pause, he continued . . . "The Lord died between two lying thieves, and I would like to do the same."

re: #91 NelsFree

O.T. Shuttle Atlantis is up.
H'm, how many Muslim countries have put anything in space, or anybody?

Intentionally or accidentally?

re: #81 buzzsawmonkey

I still support the Hashemite Right of Return: give them Saudi Arabia (where they originally controlled Mecca), get rid of the brigands that the British stuck there after WWI (currently known as "the Saudi royal family"), and let the "Palestinians" have the bulk of Mandate Palestine--i.e., "Jordan."

Alas, in the Arab world, the view of history is selective. In terms of land, history began in 1948. In terms of civilization, it ended in the 7th century.

re: #91 NelsFree

O.T. Shuttle Atlantis is up.
H'm, how many Muslim countries have put anything in space, or anybody?

Don't forget mo and his flying pony...or jackass.

re: #97 BignJames

Don't forget mo and his flying pony...or jackass.

Yes, the basis of their claim to the Temple Mount.

Meanwhile back on the homefront...

WASHINGTON, May 11 (Reuters) - High U.S. budget deficits are being driven by an economic crisis that President Barack Obama inherited, White House Budget Director Peter Orszag said on Monday.

Not completely accruate in my mind...

re: #78 Kosh's Shadow

Anyone else think the 12-18 months also refers to Iran's time frame for having sufficient nuclear weapons?

Let them remember Osirak, and be a little cautious about that time line.

re: #98 Guanxi88

Yes, the basis of their claim to the Temple Mount.

If a Muslim pissed or shat on it, they claim it.

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

Let them remember Osirak, and be a little cautious about that time line.

They remember, which is why it's all dispersed and dug-in beneath civilian infrastructure.

So will Obama visit all 50 states of the OIC? ;)

re: #46 zombie

We came this close to getting a Heinz Presidency in 2004 (with John Heinz-Kerry). Thinking we were safe, we let our guard down in 2008, and those sneaky Heinz agents nabbed the White House when we were least expecting it.

Ter-AY-za Heinz Kerry's opening remarks to 04 Democratic Convention or whatever...

Thank you, Christopher. Your father would be proud of you and your brothers. I love you and all our family.

My name is Teresa Heinz Kerry. And by now I hope it will come as no surprise to anyone that I have something to say. And tonight, as I have done throughout this campaign I would like to speak to you from my heart.

Y a todos los Hispanos, los Latinos; a tous les Americains, Francais et Canadiens; a tutti Italiani; a toda a familia Portugesa e Brazileria; to all my continental African family living in this country, and to all new Americans: I invite you to join our conversation, and together with us work towards the noblest purpose of all: a free, good, and democratic society.

(Oh wait!...there's more fail!)...read the whole thing...nah..don't bother...

re: #99 Wasta

Meanwhile back on the homefront...

WASHINGTON, May 11 (Reuters) - High U.S. budget deficits are being driven by an economic crisis that President Barack Obama inherited, White House Budget Director Peter Orszag said on Monday.

Not completely accruate in my mind...

Gee, no mention of it being all Bush's fault? The editor slipped up there.

Jordan’s King Abdullah says that the US and Barack Obama are promoting a “new plan” for peace in the Middle East—a “57-state solution.”

It not new. But it's nice to know Abdullah reads Dry Bones...

Then there's Obama + Springsteen solution: 57 channels with nothing on.

Their threats are only showing their modesty by being veiled

re: #55 Russkilitlover

Let the manipulation begin! Obama projects easy pickins.

With friends like Obama, Israel doesn't need enemies.

re: #109 MacDuff

With friends like Obama, Israel doesn't need enemies.

Simplified.

re: #103 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

So will Obama visit all 50 states of the OIC? ;)

He hasn't been to Kentucky yet and that's fine by me y'all.

#4 Baier

Funny...by Obama's count there are as many US states as Middle East States...57

Freudian slip?

Brings to mind the O's little slip to Stepanopoulos when the he said, "My muslim faith..." and poor George almost fell out of his chair as he hastily corrected him, "You mean your Christian faith...".

re: #62 realwest

Get a lot done! Come back soon - vaya con dios!

re: #112 KenJen

He hasn't been to Kentucky yet and that's fine by me y'all.

No, but he's a patron and regular user of one of your fine state's best cash-crops. (I'm talking about tobacco, of course; he quit the weed a while back.)

re: #99 Wasta

It seems to be going around - that inaccuracy thing:

Report: U.S. to Make Antitrust Policy Tougher

From that article:

Christine Varney, head of the U.S. Justice Department's antitrust division...

Varney is expected to say it was a major mistake during the outset of the Great Depression to relax antitrust enforcement, that enabled many large companies to engage in pricing, wage and collusive practices that harmed consumers and took years to reverse, the paper added.

She might want to read Amity Schaes' "The Forgotten Man" and Burton Fulsom, Jr.'s "New Deal or Raw Deal?".

She's listed all the steps that were taken, but forgot to mention one rather important thing:

They were all policies of the Roosevelt Administration under the National Recovery Act.

re: #99 Wasta

Meanwhile back on the homefront...

WASHINGTON, May 11 (Reuters) - High U.S. budget deficits are being driven by an economic crisis that President Barack Obama inherited, White House Budget Director Peter Orszag said on Monday.

Not completely accruate in my mind...

Bush handed Obama 432 Billion deficit.
Obama exploded it to 1.5 Trillion.

re: #113 ladycatnip

#4 Baier

Freudian slip?

Brings to mind the O's little slip to Stepanopoulos when the he said, "My muslim faith..." and poor George almost fell out of his chair as he hastily corrected him, "You mean your Christian faith...".

The only faith O has is in his own G-dhead.

Good one King Abdullah. I haven't had a laugh like that since the president of Uganda made plans for a Moon landing a week ago.

re: #118 FurryOldGuyJeans

The only faith O has is in his own G-dhead.

And in The Mighty TelePrompter.

re: #115 Guanxi88

No, but he's a patron and regular user of one of your fine state's best cash-crops. (I'm talking about tobacco, of course; he quit the weed a while back.)

Just what proof do we have he gave up the Mary Jane? His word?

/ 57 v 1. Sounds alot like a lynching to me...

re: #121 FurryOldGuyJeans

Just what proof do we have he gave up the Mary Jane? His word?

His word. What? Not good enough for you?
//

re: #121 FurryOldGuyJeans

Just what proof do we have he gave up the Mary Jane? His word?

Come on... Colombia doesn't export any weed.

re: #89 FurryOldGuyJeans

The only reason we are allies with the Saudis is because they have us by the short hairs with their oil.

I know, I state the obvious.

They wouldn't dream of trying their outrages if we were still Teddy Roosevelt's America. And they won't dream of them if China displaces us as the leading global power.

I'm not advocating a return to TR's America, but obviously we have lost our way in important respects.

re: #113 ladycatnip

#4 Baier

Freudian slip?

Brings to mind the O's little slip to Stepanopoulos when the he said, "My muslim faith..." and poor George almost fell out of his chair as he hastily corrected him, "You mean your Christian faith...".

Not trying to nitpick, but the context was he, Obama, was making fun and throwing out a jab to those who would say he was muslim...

But Stephanpoulos is still a tool.

I wonder if all those who voted for Obama are still wildly supportive of Obama? Still liking what they hear/see? (the answer, I'm afraid, will still be a resounding, "Yes!" and "Yes, We Can Create a Terrorist State in the very Heart of the Middle East! Yes! Yes We Can!")

re: #123 Guanxi88

His word. What? Not good enough for you?
//

In all seriousness the man proved to me quite some time ago his word has as much value as a filled diaper.

57 Varieties.
There's no other kinds once you've tasted...bullshit.

re: #117 jcm

Bush handed Obama 432 Billion deficit.
Obama exploded it to 1.5 Trillion.

Uh, that's 1.84 Trillion (at last count). You're being too conservative again...

Adbullah didn't threaten to "annihilate" Israel. Jordan is probably the only Arab country that doesn't want to destroy Israel. He warned of another war in the near future.

#126 Oh no!...Sand People!

He was certainly not joking. I saw the interview then and I just saw it again. There was no sarcasm, it was a flub. When George corrected him, Obama didn't correct the record by saying he was being sarcastic or making a joke. Obama then repeated George's correction.

re: #132 ladycatnip

#126 Oh no!...Sand People!

He was certainly not joking. I saw the interview then and I just saw it again. There was no sarcasm, it was a flub. When George corrected him, Obama didn't correct the record by saying he was being sarcastic or making a joke. Obama then repeated George's correction.

Correct.

There was no context of jest.

re: #132 ladycatnip

re: #133 pink freud

The entire question was about his Christian faith. Straight faced or not it was a sarcastic response. The video shows that.

I don't know what people expect from the Arab world. Certainly if you think they're going to EVER get all Kumbayah, huggy kissy with Israel you're deranged. On the other hand, the relationship that Israel has with Jordan and Egypt is good. Yea, I know about the Philadelphi corridor. Yea I know about Jordan's palestinian population. Even so, if Israel had the kind of relationship they have with Egypt and Jordan with the whole Arab world, we would be in fine shape today.

Peace to the Israelis means stopping the fighting. That's really about it. So I don't understand all the nastiness here against King Abdullah. You take your "friends" where you can get them sometimes. Of course, it may be pie in the sky, this "57 state solution" (I'd be happy if it was just Lebanon and Syria), but hey, I'm up for new ideas. Someone needs to come up with something other than Oslo or the Road Map or simply a constant reincarnation of either.

I know it's so en vouge to blame every trouble on the planet on Obama but for goodness sake, give the man a chance. Good grief. No U.S. president has yet to "solve" this problem. No Israeli one for that matter either.

re: #130 MacDuff

Uh, that's 1.84 Trillion (at last count). You're being too conservative again...

ROFL!

Wait a minute why I am I laughing...

U.S. threatens to rescind stimulus money over wage cuts

The Obama administration threatens to rescind billions in stimulus money if Gov. Schwarzenegger and lawmakers do not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers.

Oh no...

The only people saying it was sarcastic are those who support him. It's the "I was only joking" excuse after the fact. The video shows Obama being deadly serious, but you're free to believe what you want. It's called wishful thinking.

re: #135 american sabra

The Arab World (and I'll increasingly including the United States amongst them) is promoting the Saudi "Peace" Plan. The Saudi Peace Plan as currently envisioned means indefensible borders (meaning the Arabs won the 6 Day War), combined with a demographic shift (if the so-called "refugees" are allowed to swamp Israel). Basically it's a plan for the destruction of Israel as a Jewish state. Now, you're either "Ok" with that, or you're not.

Next, there's the King of Jordan, in the very same breath as claiming to want "peace", this liar is threatening violence (a war) if Israel refuses to comply to its own demise. That's basically what happening here. No doubt there are any number of idiots who'll be all applauding and failing to realize just what's at stake.

Please tell me we're not going to start up with the "Barack Hussein is a sekrit Moslem!" stuff again.

re: #138 buzzsawmonkey

Quite true.

If we delay our peace negotiations, then there is going to be another conflict between Arabs or Muslims and Israel in the next 12-18 months.

Maybe Israel should wait. Another sound beating should increase their bargaining position.

re: #139 J.S.

The Arab World (and I'll increasingly including the United States amongst them) is promoting the Saudi "Peace" Plan. The Saudi Peace Plan as currently envisioned means indefensible borders (meaning the Arabs won the 6 Day War), combined with a demographic shift (if the so-called "refugees" are allowed to swamp Israel). Basically it's a plan for the destruction of Israel as a Jewish state. Now, you're either "Ok" with that, or you're not.

Next, there's the King of Jordan, in the very same breath as claiming to want "peace", this liar is threatening violence (a war) if Israel refuses to comply to its own demise. That's basically what happening here. No doubt there are any number of idiots who'll be all applauding and failing to realize just what's at stake.

Well I don't see it as really a threat. I don't see why Jordan of all places... Syria, Lebanon maybe would threaten in such a way, but Jordan? What's the purpose of that? The settlements benefit Jordan. They, and they alone stop the WB Arabs from pouring into Jordan. Years ago when Sharon wanted to dismantle those settlements, Abdullah freaked out and ran to Sharon begging him not to.

I'd like to have been in the room when the King made the statement, but I think he was just being realistic... a conflict in the next 12-18 months can be expected. Don't we have a "hudna" now anyway? Gearing up for the next go around?

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

Just a reminder, folks: The Ottoman Empire ruled the Middle East until it was defeated, along with its ally Germany, in 1918. Prior to that time there were no independent countries in the region of the Middle East.

The Western Powers took over the remains of the Ottoman Empire, and over time carved out mandatory possessions (e.g., the British Palestine Mandate) and some independent countries.

There is not one country in the Middle East that is more than 30 years older than the State of Israel. Israel is not a "newcomer" to the region; it is, relatively speaking, contemporary in age with independent Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Egypt.

Kindly keep that in mind.

hehe One might say Israel is oh... about 3500 years older, but I get your point!

re: #139 J.S.

You mean Hamas isn't a peace partner? What about the 'cycle of violence'? What about 'occupation'? What about the Nobel peace prize?

re: #141 Charles

Please tell me we're not going to start up with the "Barack Hussein is a sekrit Moslem!" stuff again.

Stinky's ban stick has barely cooled off from the last round of it.

re: #136 jcm

The Obama administration threatens to rescind billions in stimulus money if Gov. Schwarzenegger and lawmakers do not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers.

Are these "cuts" even cuts, or a decrease in the mandated increases?

re: #145 american sabra

It will give him a place to deport troublemakers...

re: #145 american sabra

What's the purpose of Jordan issuing threats? Not that long ago I saw a program (BBC iirc) about the situation in Jordan...a large segment of its population calls itself "Palestinian", and they view the "King" as a foreign transplant...(to satisfy that constituency, the King needs to saber rattle -- and, frankly, I don't think it's all bluff.) And, from the King's statement (the warning/threat) why the inclusion of the term, "Muslims?" (unless of course its a veiled threat about Iran?)

Are these the same 57 States that Obama claimed to have visited during the Campaign last Summer?
OR
Is this a stealth move by Teriza Heinz-Kerry?

re: #141 Charles

He actually is one, by Mohammedan religious rules. Obviously non-practicing and clearly not in typical American sense.

I think an excellent summary of facts involved is here and here.

re: #154 ORD neighbor

He actually is one, by Mohammedan religious rules. Obviously non-practicing and clearly not in typical American sense.

No, he isn't. He's a Christian. By ISLAMIC rules, he is an apostate, if it's true that he was raised as a Muslim, about which there is considerable doubt.

It reminds me of Obama saying he had visited 57 U.S. states and had one to go.

To clarify my position, I do not believe he is Muslim, I just did not see any sarcasm or jest in the interview with Stephanopoulas.

Palestine (errr, Jordan) doesn't have a great track record in Middle East wars. Let's see how many ME countries really have the cojones to go to real war against Israel. That would, however, give Israel the opportunity to establish Jordan as Phakestine once and for all.

re: #66 dhg4

Charles nails it:

And of course that's the problem with Saudi Arabia's peace offer:

Isreal will do this that and the other and in return we might smile in their direction.

These aren't peace offers, but ultimatums.

Fausta, BTW, notes that this isn't the first time that King Abdullah has raised the specter of war if his sage advice wasn't followed. Presumably by raising the worst case scenario Abduallah figures he can demonstrate his gravitas, even if the time frame for the expected disaster keeps on shifting.

re: #141 Charles

Please tell me we're not going to start up with the "Barack Hussein is a sekrit Moslem!" stuff again.

Some people just gave it up for Lent.

Fifty-seven is the sixteenth discrete bi-prime and the sixth in the (3.q) family. With 58, the number 57 forms the fourth discrete bi-prime pair. The number 57 has an aliquot sum of 23 and is the first composite member of the 23-aliquot tree. Although 57 is not prime, it is jokingly known as the "Grothendieck prime" after a story in which Grothendieck advances it as an example of a particular prime number. As a semiprime, 57 is a Blum integer since its two prime factors are both Gaussian primes. The number 57 is a 20-gonal number. It is a Leyland number since 2 to the 5th + 5 to the 2nd = 57. The number 57 is a repdigit in base 7 (111).

In other words, we are doomed.

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

Just a reminder, folks: The Ottoman Empire ruled the Middle East until it was defeated, along with its ally Germany, in 1918. Prior to that time there were no independent countries in the region of the Middle East.

The Western Powers took over the remains of the Ottoman Empire, and over time carved out mandatory possessions (e.g., the British Palestine Mandate) and some independent countries.

There is not one country in the Middle East that is more than 30 years older than the State of Israel. Israel is not a "newcomer" to the region; it is, relatively speaking, contemporary in age with independent Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Egypt.

Kindly keep that in mind.

But...but...but...the Arabs have, like, an ancient culture, and they're people of color! The Jews are white!

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re: #154 ORD neighbor

He actually is one, by Mohammedan religious rules. Obviously non-practicing and clearly not in typical American sense.

I think an excellent summary of facts involved is here and here.

In what other part of your life do you accept Islamic religious rulings?

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

Just a reminder, folks: The Ottoman Empire ruled the Middle East until it was defeated, along with its ally Germany, in 1918. Prior to that time there were no independent countries in the region of the Middle East.

The Western Powers took over the remains of the Ottoman Empire, and over time carved out mandatory possessions (e.g., the British Palestine Mandate) and some independent countries.

There is not one country in the Middle East that is more than 30 years older than the State of Israel. Israel is not a "newcomer" to the region; it is, relatively speaking, contemporary in age with independent Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Egypt.

Kindly keep that in mind.

Exactly. In fact, it's arguable the Israel/Jordan *is* the original two state solution.

In 1920, the League of Nations charged Great Britain with the responsibility of overseeing the Mandate over the geographical territory known as "Palestine", with the express intention of creating a Jewish National Home.

The territory in question stretched from the Mediterranean Sea, to the eastern boundary of Mandatory Palestine.

The League of Nations created a number of articles, all in accordance with the original intent of the Balfour Declaration (November 29th, 1917). However, at the last minute, Article 25 was introduced by the British Colonial Office.

This directly enabled Great Britain to annex all of Palestine to the east of the River Jordan, awarding it to the Arab Hashemite family. The territory (created in 1921) become the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

This was the first partition of Palestine and created a second state, covering some 35,000 square miles or nearly four-fifths of the original Mandate. Jewish residence in the territory was immediately forbidden and it became in effect "judenrein".

re: #152 J.S.

What's the purpose of Jordan issuing threats? Not that long ago I saw a program (BBC iirc) about the situation in Jordan...a large segment of its population calls itself "Palestinian", and they view the "King" as a foreign transplant...(to satisfy that constituency, the King needs to saber rattle -- and, frankly, I don't think it's all bluff.) And, from the King's statement (the warning/threat) why the inclusion of the term, "Muslims?" (unless of course its a veiled threat about Iran?)

Well, that's why I say, I'd like to have heard the King's words. Did he say Palestinians or Muslims? And he could be using the words interchangeably.

If you think Jordan would ever threaten Israel then I'd say you really don't understand the conflict at all. If you read what I just wrote, the Palestinians comprise a huge percentage of the Jordanian population. At one time it was almost half, but I think about 35-40% now. However, they have no autonomy as Jordanians and the King doesn't want any more of them. They are a permanent underclass there for a very good reason.

Jordan is thankful for the existence of Israel, believe me. If not, who knows if the Hashemite kingdom would even be around today.

re: #155 Charles

No, he isn't. He's a Christian. By ISLAMIC rules, he is an apostate, if it's true that he was raised as a Muslim, about which there is considerable doubt.

I guess I did not put it across without misunderstanding.
I do think that by most Americans' rules he would be a Christian. His Chicago church's leadership in the person of Jeremiah Wright obviously left a great deal to be desired in a number of areas that have been sufficiently aired here. And indeed, by many interpretations of Mohammedan rules he is a Mohammedan in a state of apostasy. While his entire upbringing was not as a Mohammedan, I think it is sufficiently well known that significant parts of it had major Mohammedan influences. And some Mohammedans believe the father being a Mohammedan of any sort is enough, with or without a Mohammedan upbringing, to make one a Mohammedan; this perception is held in certain quarters quite firmly and we have to deal with that. It is equally obvious that generally Americans do not share such ideas on religious affiliation.

In other words, I don't think there is a major conspiracy or "secret", but full disclosure in this area, and explanation of who believes what on the subject is a good idea. Just because we think someone holds ideas we believe to be wrong should not prevent us from discussing the fact that they hold such ideas and may follow up on those ideas.

re: #162 SanFranciscoZionist

In what other part of your life do you accept Islamic religious rulings?

Only in observing that many Mohammedans accept such rulings and act on them. And no further.

re: #163 Sand Panda

What would absolutely be a 3 state solution has always been masked as a 2 state solution. But barking up that tree is completely useless and I've stopped doing it. The Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza WILL have their own country. It's inevitable. Most Israelis want it anyway. And who am I to argue? Until I've made aliya, I have to be careful how I judge.

Buzz said nothing will work unless THEY want it to work and there's a whole bunch of truth in that, but I wonder, if Sharon hadn't gotten sick, would the unilateral withdrawal from Gaza ever worked? Just wall up the whole damn place and leave them to their own devices? No, I'm not a land for peace gal and I will support fighting to infinity rather than give up Jerusalem (G-d forbid it would be over at that point anyway...), but Gaza was never part of biblical Israel anyway, so screw em. Let them have it. If they can't make a go of it with the Mediterranean sitting right there, it's their problem.

Yea yea... I know it's also Israel's problem...

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

Just a reminder, folks: The Ottoman Empire ruled the Middle East until it was defeated, along with its ally Germany, in 1918. Prior to that time there were no independent countries in the region of the Middle East.

The Western Powers took over the remains of the Ottoman Empire, and over time carved out mandatory possessions (e.g., the British Palestine Mandate) and some independent countries.

There is not one country in the Middle East that is more than 30 years older than the State of Israel. Israel is not a "newcomer" to the region; it is, relatively speaking, contemporary in age with independent Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Egypt.

Kindly keep that in mind.

Israel reminds me of Poland. An ancient nation, a recent state. Both much put upon, both with powerful enemies on all sides, and both with borders that have shifted with the winds of war.

re: #164 american sabra

You can go online and read the Times Online article entitled: "King Abdullah of Jordan's ultimatum: peace now or it’s war next year." In the article, the King is quoted; the article reads: "Failure to reach agreement at this critical juncture would draw the world into a new Middle East war next year. 'If we delay our peace negotiations, then there is going to be another conflict between Arabs or Muslims and Israel in the next 12-18 months,' the King said." The quote is "Arabs or Muslims" going to war with Israel in the next 12 - 18 months. (Is the inclusion of the term "Mulsims" a veiled threat about Iran? Do you really think that Jordan would fail to "assist" its Arab brethren in a time of war with Israel? you'd have to fundamentally misunderstand the current conflict and/or past history to make such a claim. Also, note, in the article Obama intends to deliver a keynote address in Cairo on June 4 -- why, pray tell, June 4? if not to symbolically erase a certain Arab defeat, and/or for the announcement of a "victory"? The King of Jordan, also note, has also relayed the message, "if Mr Obama did not make good his promise for peace, then his credibility would evaporate overnight."

re: #168 american sabra

Perhaps you are right, but I can't help be worried by what seems to be the gradual revisionism of Middle Eastern history, especially considering the positions of breathtaking ignorance from which so many Europeans blithely condemn Israel.

As previously posted, Israel ended up with barely a fifth of the pie promised to it. Why should it cede even more land to the ethnic group which got the other four slices?

re: #170 J.S.

From this NYT article

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

and I think Charles posted on it recently, the Palestinians have declared a hudna. That means they're preparing for war. That is not a secret. But the King is indeed sending a warning, ya better hurry up. I don't know what "and Muslims" mean. I could certainly mean the Iranians, but what do you think? Jordan will be spared if nukes hit Israel? He's right there. Abdullah isn't that dumb.

The Iranians are Persians. They aren't Arabs, even if they share a religion. There is no love between the Persians and the Arabs either. I have no idea who Abdullah would side with in such a situation, but it wouldn't be Iran.

I also seriously disagree with the King's assessment of Obama's credibility vanishing overnight. So if he doesn't solve the Israeli/Arab conflict in one fell swoop, he's crap? Wow!

I didn't read the Times article, but I will now.

re: #171 Sand Panda

Perhaps you are right, but I can't help be worried by what seems to be the gradual revisionism of Middle Eastern history, especially considering the positions of breathtaking ignorance from which so many Europeans blithely condemn Israel.

As previously posted, Israel ended up with barely a fifth of the pie promised to it. Why should it cede even more land to the ethnic group which got the other four slices?

Well it shouldn't. You're right, but I think it's going to have to. I think most Israelis are resigned to it. And really who can blame them. The problem is getting the Arabs to agree as has always been.

I agree with you regarding revisionist history and here too on the campuses. Horrible.

"Arab states may offer to let the Israeli airline El Al fly through Arab air space"

Yeah, that's a flight I'd feel real safe on...

re: #174 lightspeed

Instead of handing out free packets of peanuts, they'd be handing out free packs of Xanex.

re: #174 lightspeed

Yeah, that's a flight I'd feel real safe on...

And Israel would have to reciprocate with flights by Arab and Iranian airlines, right?
Like Muslims never use airliners to attack civilian targets.

>But he warned: “If we delay our peace negotiations, then there is going to be another conflict between Arabs or Muslims and Israel in the next 12-18 months.”

re: #165 ORD neighbor

In other words, I don't think there is a major conspiracy or "secret", but full disclosure in this area, and explanation of who believes what on the subject is a good idea. Just because we think someone holds ideas we believe to be wrong should not prevent us from discussing the fact that they hold such ideas and may follow up on those ideas.

OK. Apparently my first post wasn't clear enough on this. If you continue with this crap about Obama's sekrit "Mohammedan" heritage (what's up with using "Mohammedan," by the way, instead of "Islamic?"), I'll simply block your account.

I don't want this garbage at my website. It's embarrassing and stupid. I suggest that if you simply can't stop discussing it for some weird reason, you go on over to Pamela Geller's site. She specializes in this kind of nonsense.

re: #172 american sabra

I(t) could certainly mean the Iranians, but what do you think?

As I've stated -- twice already now? see comments 152 and 170 -- yes, I do believe the King of Jordan when delivering his ultimatum and mentioning "Muslims", he may very well, indeed, have been referring to Iran (and, yes, as everyone here clearly realizes, they're not Arabs -- that's for the third time -- why the King of Jordan may have included the term "Muslim" in addition to "Arab" when making his threats.) On the leftist websites (the pro Obama ones), the message has been made very, very clear that the first thing on Obama's agenda is "solving the Palestinian/Israeli" conflict. And only after dealing with "Palestine" will the U.S. discuss Iran and its nuclear ambitions. (It's what Tony Blair has been yakking about for the past 5 years or so -- in other words, the entire onus of establishing "peace" in the Middle East is for arriving at a "solution" (a final one?) for the State of Israel, then (only if the first "problem" has been "solved"), only then, will the focus turn to Iran and its nuclear ambitions.

re: #179 J.S.

Obama probably thinks the only reason Iran wants nukes is because of Israel. Get rid of Israel and Iran won't want a nuclear program.
But that isn't the case; there are both the Persian vs Arab differences and the Shi'ite vs Sunni arguments.
Plus the simple fact Iran wants to be a major power in the Mideast.
If anything, Israel might be slowing Iran down.

re: #180 Kosh's Shadow

I suspect that as we speak there are any number of Arab countries secretly making arrangements for obtaining their own nukes..

re: #181 J.S.

I suspect that as we speak there are any number of Arab countries secretly making arrangements for obtaining their own nukes..

There are, and because of Iran. They also aren't happy with the 0 because he's letting Iran get one and making it necessary for them to get one as well.

re: #17 zombie

At this rate, Obama will go down in history as the "57 President." Strange how the number keeps coming up in reference to him.

We're certainly getting 57 varieties of socialism.

which is Kerry... %-)

A 57-state solution? Not even Jimmy Carter was foolish to think he could achieve a consensus for peace among 57 states. Pres. Obama's foreign policy team should study Metternich and Bismarck if they are serious about a grand concerto of regional stability.

re: #179 J.S.

J.S., in #170 you made this statement:

"Is the inclusion of the term "Mulsims" a veiled threat about Iran? Do you really think that Jordan would fail to "assist" its Arab brethren in a time of war with Israel?"

That's what made me think you didn't realize the Iranians are Persians. If I misunderstood you, then I apologize. I simply have a hard time believing that Abdullah would threaten Israel. It makes no sense. Thank G-d for Israel or all those crazies would have overrun his country. In fact, I would go so far to say if Abdullah had any inside info about Iran, he would tell Israel about it.

>But he warned: “If we delay our peace negotiations, then there is going to be another conflict between Arabs or Muslims and Israel in the next 12-18 months.

re: #185 american sabra

I should have stated "Arab/Muslim" brethren -- my mistake. Jordan, btw, as I'm sure you're aware, went to war with Israel in 1948, 1967, assisted in the Yom Kippur War of 1973, and did not join the coalition against Iraq in the first Iraq war in the 90s-- thus, if ever there were some sort of conflagration in the Middle East (G-d forbid), I have zero expectations/delusions that Jordan would suddenly side with the State of Israel. Hence, it would, indeed, side with its Arab brethren (as it has done in the past) -- that, of course, is not to say that it is as execrable as certain other states...or that there is not a "cold" peace treaty...(also, whenever there's been a leader who's been a little too cosy with the State of Israel, that leader is assassinated -- as with Abdullah ibn Hussein of Jordan.)

Jordan controlled the West Bank for about 20 years. Why didn't they set up a Palestinian state when they had the chance?

Of course Jordan already takes up most of the British mandate for Palestine.

re: #187 J.S.

Are you referring to the 1994 Treaty between Israel and Jordan as a "cold" treaty? Israel has had more problems with Egypt than Jordan, with the withdraw of IDF troops from the Philadelphi corridor and the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood which created the smuggling problems. I don't see any reason to be cynical about Jordan. Egypt yea. Cautious certainly, but not Jordan.

re: #188 LesLein

Jordan controlled the West Bank for about 20 years. Why didn't they set up a Palestinian state when they had the chance?

Of course Jordan already takes up most of the British mandate for Palestine.

Question asked and answered! hehe

Here's a short synopsis about the annexation of East Jerusalem that may answer that question:

[Link: palestinefacts.org...]

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

Druze rock.

There have been issues with the Druze vis a vis their women.

re: #189 American Sabra

well, fine. By all means, trust Jordan! Trust the Saudis! They're all such fine, outstanding supporters of the State of Israel! And Obama has a Jewish Soul! And it's all about rainbows and unicorns and Peace in Our Time!

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Ron Popeil here, if you thought our Two State Solution was good wait until you see our new and improved Fifty-Seven State Solution... and for a limited time only we will throw in Israel for free! Hurry while supplies last!

My first thought was "this is an Onion article", and I clicked on the link expecting to be entertained. Imagine my surprise to find life imitating Onion.

re: #192 J.S.

Is there something wrong with you? Or are you always a drama queen?