Since Barack Obama has announced that he plans to address the Muslim world from Egypt in early June, perhaps he could raise the subject of television shows like this one, broadcast on Egyptian/Saudi channel Al-Hafez TV on April 27, 2009, featuring a smiling, jovial host indoctrinating Arab children to hate and murder Jews. (Via MEMRI TV.)
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FemNaziBitch Wed, May 13, 2009 11:01:44am |
What kind of people broadcast/institutionalize hate?
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pegcity Wed, May 13, 2009 11:01:58am |
were the sons of apes and pigs, but we can make earthquake machines
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redc1c4 Wed, May 13, 2009 11:02:37am |
re: #1 ggt
What kind of people broadcast/institutionalize hate?
the same people who answer the muslima.com add to the right of the screen as i type this?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 13, 2009 11:02:49am |
re: #1 ggt
What kind of people broadcast/institutionalize hate?
Really, really sick people. Nazis fit the bill, as do jihadis.
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Kragar Wed, May 13, 2009 11:04:16am |
Obama is more likely to ask if they want to host a segment on NPR
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BlueCanuck Wed, May 13, 2009 11:04:37am |
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 13, 2009 11:05:17am |
re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Obama is more likely to ask if they want to host a segment on NPR
National Palestinian Radio?
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:05:54am |
Someone working with the Pope should have told the Pope this crap is taught next door, and that the Egyptians LIKE their walls to keep Gazans out.
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brookly red Wed, May 13, 2009 11:06:27am |
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JohnnyReb Wed, May 13, 2009 11:06:29am |
re: #3 pegcity
were the sons of apes and pigs, but we can make earthquake machines
And you can commit genocide against the Palis while tripling the population at the same time.
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Kronocide Wed, May 13, 2009 11:06:32am |
Will Obama address television shows like this? Methinks not, it might offend them to speak of truthful things. Where's that leftist canard 'truth to power?'
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 13, 2009 11:06:33am |
Obama will feel like he's back home in Rev. Wright's church.
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2-Drink Minimum Wed, May 13, 2009 11:06:56am |
Whew! I thought he was gonna' call out bennie and the jets in the beginning. So is this the same ROP practiced here?
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Shug Wed, May 13, 2009 11:07:02am |
Why is that little girl covered up?
She's what, 7 years old?
She needs to be covered so that adult men will not want to have sex with her since they cannot supress their urges.
sick
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:07:03am |
Worse still? US probably pays for this Egyptian tv crap. How many billions do we send Mubarak each year?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, May 13, 2009 11:07:15am |
It's justification through recruiting. If we all hate the Jews, it's them, not us. You see this same phenomenon in a lot of things: people who are doing wrong often try to get others to copy them.
The fact that the Jews are living happy, successful lives (on average) cannot be the by-product of a culture that focuses on life and creation, could it? Of course not.
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Russkilitlover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:08:40am |
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Obama went ON that show when in Egypt and smile and nodded all through the diatribe.
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lawhawk Wed, May 13, 2009 11:08:43am |
And these are the folks that Israel has already made peace with.
Keep in mind that these are the so-called moderates in the Middle East.
The Palestinians produce stuff that is beyond the pale in comparison. And they are actively seeking Israel's destruction.
All these people feeding the hate are... what's the word I'm looking for...
Evil.
Yes, they're evil. They're indoctrinating kids into hating and seeking destruction and wanton murder and unending violence because Israel exists. You want peace? Start by dealing with the indoctrination of the next generation of Arab kids into seeking Israel's destruction.
The PA was supposed to stop that kind of thing, but never did.
But we're constantly reminded that it is Israel that must make concessions in the name of peace. What are these people giving up in the name of peace? Nothing.
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Baier Wed, May 13, 2009 11:08:46am |
OT
Obama seeks to block release of abuse photos
Whoops!
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Beach Lover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:09:48am |
Gibbs on trying to explain away the photo back track.
he's such an idiot....speaking for another idiot
not a good combination
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:10:24am |
OT
ACLU's Jameel Jaffer, National Security Project Director, says the ACLU is very disppointed with Pres. Obama for suppressing photos of alleged US military abuse of detainees.
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Nevergiveup Wed, May 13, 2009 11:10:35am |
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Erik The Red Wed, May 13, 2009 11:10:41am |
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kay1212 Wed, May 13, 2009 11:10:58am |
They hate trees too. Can someone educate me about this portion from the transcript:
The Prophet said: Judgment Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the stones and trees will say: "Oh Muslim, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him." Except for what tree?
Muhammad: The Zaqum tree.
TV host: No, the gharqad tree. This tree can be found all over Israel. they plant it so that they can hide behind it, because they know that it will not tell on them when they hide behind it.
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ilzito guacamolito Wed, May 13, 2009 11:11:20am |
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Million Dollar Man Wed, May 13, 2009 11:11:28am |
re: #17 Shug
Why is that little girl covered up?
She's what, 7 years old?
She needs to be covered so that adult men will not want to have sex with her since they cannot supress their urges.
sick
WTF?
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Nevergiveup Wed, May 13, 2009 11:11:49am |
re: #22 lawhawk
And today the Pope criticized the Wall that protects humanity from heathens and called for a Terrorist, I mean Palestinian, State? Go figure?
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opnion Wed, May 13, 2009 11:12:25am |
re: #24 Beach Lover
Gibbs on trying to explain away the photo back track.
he's such an idiot....speaking for another idiot
not a good combination
He is doin some serious shuckin & jivin.
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:13:05am |
re: #32 Nevergiveup
And today the Pope criticized the Wall that protects humanity from heathens and called for a Terrorist, I mean Palestinian, State? Go figure?
* * * *
Like I said, Egypt built its own walls in Gaza to keep Palestinians out.
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Land Shark Wed, May 13, 2009 11:13:47am |
Given The One's "Bend Over And Apologize" foreign policy, I'd say it's a fair bet he'll apologize for the Jews resistance to being killed, Israel being the only advanced and civilized country in the Middle East and the United States supporting Israel and forcing the Muslims to indoctrinate their children with pure hate. Then he'll yell "Allah Ackbar" and join his brothers in a rousing chant of "Death To America."
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Kragar Wed, May 13, 2009 11:14:16am |
In a civilized country, these asshole wouldn't be allowed within 500 ft of a child
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Beach Lover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:14:48am |
re: #34 opnion
I cant follow what he is saying....he talks worse than his boss.
by the time he finishes his sentence....you forget the beginning. he makes no sense
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Guanxi88 Wed, May 13, 2009 11:14:51am |
re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
In a civilized country, these asshole wouldn't be allowed.
within 500 ft of a child
brevity
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:15:20am |
OT
I love seeing Robert Gibbs defending US troops and saying "Nothing is added by release of Photos"...
I love seeing the ACLU seethe because innocent US troops are being defended by THIS President.
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experiencedtraveller Wed, May 13, 2009 11:16:17am |
A requisite of tyranny is an enemy.
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opnion Wed, May 13, 2009 11:16:18am |
re: #38 Beach Lover
I cant follow what he is saying....he talks worse than his boss.
by the time he finishes his sentence....you forget the beginning. he makes no sense
It's gobbleygook. He either chooses not to be understood or he isn't capable.
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Kragar Wed, May 13, 2009 11:16:19am |
re: #38 Beach Lover
I cant follow what he is saying....he talks worse than his boss.
by the time he finishes his sentence....you forget the beginning. he makes no sense
Its a Moebius strip of befuddlement
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researchok Wed, May 13, 2009 11:16:31am |
Asking the Israelis to make peace with the Arab world is a lot like asking the black community to make peace and happily accept the KKK as equal neighbors.
Vicious and visceral hate is rooted in Arab culture, media, school curricula and religious instruction, available for all to see. As we pretend that part of Arab cultural norms are acceptable forms of expression, no one has the right to tell the Israelis what and what is not in their best interest. This is especially true when it comes to matters of security or existential threats posed to the State of Israel.
The long time Arab world promise to 'We'll finish what Hitler started' is offensive to us and all civilized people as it is to the Israelis. The Arab world needs to learn that kind of behavior will be rejected by the civilized world.
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Russkilitlover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:16:33am |
Nice. He even managed to get the phrase "final solution" in there. (Around 6:30 of the video).
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:17:23am |
re: #40 buzzsawmonkey
The Egyptian franchise of "Captain Kangaroo" is certainly different from the one I remember.
* * * *
Mohammed Atta the "architect" 9/11 pilot studying in Hamburg, certainly watched Egyptian tv as a child.
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ilzito guacamolito Wed, May 13, 2009 11:17:32am |
re: #40 buzzsawmonkey
The Egyptian franchise of "Captain Kangaroo" is certainly different from the one I remember.
I couldn't stomach the entire clip. What does Mr. Green Keffiyeh look like?
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Last Mohican Wed, May 13, 2009 11:18:48am |
re: #5 redc1c4
the same people who answer the muslima.com add to the right of the screen as i type this?
I've got her on my screen too. She's kinda hot, but I've heard she's not my type.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 13, 2009 11:18:58am |
Muslim BBC religion job 'insult'
The BBC's appointment of a Muslim as head of religion and ethics is insulting to Christians, an Ulster Unionist assembly member has said.Retired Presbyterian minister Dr Robert Coulter said the appointment of Aaqil Ahmed was "a juvenile gimmick".
"According to the Church of England 70% of the UK are Christian, 3% are Muslim yet the BBC for its head of religious broadcast appoints a Muslim," he said.
Heh.
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MandyManners Wed, May 13, 2009 11:19:06am |
re: #21 Russkilitlover
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Obama went ON that show when in Egypt and smile and nodded all through the diatribe.
Shades of Wanda Sykes?
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opnion Wed, May 13, 2009 11:19:08am |
Gibbs just said, that the reason BHO did not try to block the release of the photos in April is because he is now making an objection on national security that has not been made before. Say What?
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lawhawk Wed, May 13, 2009 11:19:10am |
re: #41 alegrias
OT
I love seeing Robert Gibbs defending US troops and saying "Nothing is added by release of Photos"...
I love seeing the ACLU seethe because innocent US troops are being defended by THIS President.
Obama is playing and pandering to so many distinct constituencies that he can't keep track of his position from day to day. He had to back the military and CIA on this one because he's already ruffled feathers with his calls to cut military tech purchases, and the war with the CIA over the interrogations continues and the CIA pushback wasn't expected by the WH, even though it was obvious that a bureaucracy like the CIA will always look to protect its own.
One day Obama panders to the ACLU/Answer/Code Pink far left, and the next he realizes he's got to back the military. It's so bad it will give you whiplash.
That's why everything this President does comes with an expiration date. He can't help himself.
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Guanxi88 Wed, May 13, 2009 11:19:21am |
re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Its a Moebius strip of befuddlement
An ouroborous of bullshitting.
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Nevergiveup Wed, May 13, 2009 11:19:50am |
Pope Benedict XVI on Wednesday branded the West Bank separation fence as a symbol of "stalemate" between Israel and the Palestinians, urging both sides to break a "spiral of violence.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
No Popie, let me splain that to ya. It's just like a Zoo. The Fence is to keep the animals away from the innocent people. Got it?
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Desert Dog Wed, May 13, 2009 11:20:21am |
Talking trees? wtf?
Imagine if Israeli tv broadcast a similar show that taught their kids to hate Muslims? These people do not want peace with Israel and they never will, ever.
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Nevergiveup Wed, May 13, 2009 11:20:42am |
re: #52 opnion
Gibbs just said, that the reason BHO did not try to block the release of the photos in April is because he is now making an objection on national security that has not been made before. Say What?
No Say Heh--Willie Mays. next Question.
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Russkilitlover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:20:44am |
re: #51 MandyManners
Shades of Wanda Sykes?
And Daniel's Ortegas rant.
And the Palestinian support dinner, video of which the LA times still will not release.
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MandyManners Wed, May 13, 2009 11:21:25am |
re: #40 buzzsawmonkey
The Egyptian franchise of "Captain Kangaroo" is certainly different from the one I remember.
Mr. Mean-Jeans!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, May 13, 2009 11:21:47am |
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Beach Lover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:21:51am |
re: #52 opnion
he is the communication director?!
how? why?
I love that they (MSM) arent letting him off the hook on this one!
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Russkilitlover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:22:05am |
re: #52 opnion
Gibbs just said, that the reason BHO did not try to block the release of the photos in April is because he is now making an objection on national security that has not been made before. Say What?
Translation: Obama pulled his head out of his ass long enough to see that maybe this was not such a good idea. Oh, and Cheney called him at 3 am.
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Desert Dog Wed, May 13, 2009 11:22:14am |
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:23:33am |
Robert Gibbs says Commander in Chief made this decision!
Then takes ringing cell phones from reporters...says it's a circus.
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Nevergiveup Wed, May 13, 2009 11:23:35am |
Ya know the Pope going to the Holy Land and making Political Statements reminds me why it is not good for a Novice and someone not really fluent in the history of the conflict to get involved. They should just keep their yaps shut. YA HEAR THAT OBAMA?
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JohnnyReb Wed, May 13, 2009 11:23:43am |
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opnion Wed, May 13, 2009 11:24:02am |
Gibbs is now making journalists give up their phones that ring during the press briefing. Pretty funny, really.
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Ben Hur Wed, May 13, 2009 11:25:14am |
re: #57 Desert Dog
Talking trees? wtf?
Imagine if Israeli tv broadcast a similar show that taught their kids to hate Muslims? These people do not want peace with Israel and they never will, ever.
That's what the Left actually thinks the situation is.
That's why none of this is ever shown in the US MSM.
He who controls the narrative, controls the universe.
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Kragar Wed, May 13, 2009 11:25:31am |
re: #70 opnion
Gibbs is now making journalists give up their phones that ring during the press briefing. Pretty funny, really.
FASCIST!
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Nevergiveup Wed, May 13, 2009 11:26:54am |
re: #71 Ben Hur
That's what the Left actually thinks the situation is.
That's why none of this is ever shown in the US MSM.
He who controls the narrative, controls the universe.
Well I always thought who controls the biggest baddest meanest best equipped Military controls the Universe, but you may have a point also?
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opnion Wed, May 13, 2009 11:26:58am |
re: #72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
FASCIST!
It seems like he is happy for the distractions. He is saying that BHO has a new legal arguement , but he can't reveal it yet.
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Last Mohican Wed, May 13, 2009 11:27:09am |
re: #55 Nevergiveup
Pope Benedict XVI on Wednesday branded the West Bank separation fence as a symbol of "stalemate" between Israel and the Palestinians, urging both sides to break a "spiral of violence.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
I've seen this in a few threads now. I'd like to read a complete transcript of what the Pope said, but it looks like he chose his words carefully. In his defense, I would actually agree with him that the separation barrier is a "symbol of stalemate." It's a concrete reminder (literally) that Arabs have not yet accepted the existence of Jews living in the Middle East, and have vowed to kill any Jew that they can get their hands on. And so these barriers must be built. They have saved many hundreds of Arab and Jewish lives.
I see that the Pope would like for the barrier to be torn down one day. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Has he said that he'd like the barrier to be removed right now? I didn't see that he did. But if he did, then he's placing himself on the side of genocidal violence, and that would be unfortunate.
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yochanan Wed, May 13, 2009 11:27:19am |
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ilzito guacamolito Wed, May 13, 2009 11:28:02am |
re: #74 opnion
It seems like he is happy for the distractions. He is saying that BHO has a new legal arguement , but he can't reveal it yet.
Tommy Boy always 'had a plan' too.
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John Neverbend Wed, May 13, 2009 11:28:04am |
I wonder what happened to the poor little boy who gave the wrong answer about the Gharqad tree.
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Liberal Classic Wed, May 13, 2009 11:28:35am |
re: #73 Nevergiveup
He who controls the narrative, controls the universe.Well I always thought who controls the biggest baddest meanest best equipped Military controls the Universe, but you may have a point also?
I thought he who controls the spice controls the universe.
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JohnnyReb Wed, May 13, 2009 11:28:36am |
re: #74 opnion
It seems like he is happy for the distractions. He is saying that BHO has a new legal arguement , but he can't reveal it yet.
From a person who ran the Harvard law review that never published an article, never argued a case in court and never wrote a legal opinion, right.
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:28:40am |
re: #65 Erik The Red
Sick. FUCKING SICK. And this Religion whats to rule the World? FUCK EM'.
re: #65 Erik The Red
Sick. FUCKING SICK. And this Religion whats to rule the World? FUCK EM'.
* * * **
That sick quote was from Iran's previous leader who lived in lovely France before toppling the modern Shah of Iran.
Yes, Ayatollah Khomeini campaigned to revolutionize Iran on those talking points quoted above.
Revolutions have consequences.
Damn Jimmy Carter who gave Khomeini a pass.
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Baier Wed, May 13, 2009 11:29:14am |
re: #74 opnion
It seems like he is happy for the distractions. He is saying that BHO has a new legal arguement , but he can't reveal it yet.
He can only reveal it to those that reach level 20 on Donkey Kong.
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Kragar Wed, May 13, 2009 11:29:34am |
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:29:43am |
re: #53 lawhawk
Obama is playing and pandering to so many distinct constituencies that he can't keep track of his position from day to day. He had to back the military and CIA on this one because he's already ruffled feathers with his calls to cut military tech purchases, and the war with the CIA over the interrogations continues and the CIA pushback wasn't expected by the WH, even though it was obvious that a bureaucracy like the CIA will always look to protect its own.
One day Obama panders to the ACLU/Answer/Code Pink far left, and the next he realizes he's got to back the military. It's so bad it will give you whiplash.
That's why everything this President does comes with an expiration date. He can't help himself.
We are watching an amateur at work.
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Danny Wed, May 13, 2009 11:30:09am |
"Coming up next after this important message...B'harni the Jew Hating Dinosaur. Stay tuned!"
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Kragar Wed, May 13, 2009 11:30:14am |
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nikis-knight Wed, May 13, 2009 11:30:24am |
re: #17 Shug
Why is that little girl covered up?
She's what, 7 years old?
She needs to be covered so that adult men will not want to have sex with her since they cannot supress their urges.
sick
The reasoning is the same as chaining a baby elephant. Start young, and when they are old they will no longer try to test the strength of their bonds.
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calcajun Wed, May 13, 2009 11:30:25am |
re: #1 ggt
Nazis, socialists, totalitarians. Should I go on?
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jcm Wed, May 13, 2009 11:30:40am |
re: #81 alegrias
* * * **
That sick quote was from Iran's previous leader who lived in lovely France before toppling the modern Shah of Iran.Yes, Ayatollah Khomeini campaigned to revolutionize Iran on those talking points quoted above.
Revolutions have consequences.
Damn Jimmy Carter who gave Khomeini a pass.
Rabbit Bait sold Iran and Zimbabwe down the shit hole. He's got a lot of blood on his fucking hands.
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Nevergiveup Wed, May 13, 2009 11:30:50am |
re: #75 Last Mohican
It's called being a novice in a distant land. Any reference to the wall other than saying if you Palestinians weren't such terrorist bastards child killers is going to be taken by the MSM, the World,and the Palestinians as criticism of the wall. You can choice your words as carefully as you like, but that is how it is.
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opnion Wed, May 13, 2009 11:31:44am |
re: #80 JohnnyReb
From a person who ran the Harvard law review that never published an article, never argued a case in court and never wrote a legal opinion, right.
Amazing, ain't it. President of Law Review, but no articles!
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 11:31:57am |
re: #52 opnion
Gibbs just said, that the reason BHO did not try to block the release of the photos in April is because he is now making an objection on national security that has not been made before. Say What?
Translation: "The President can no longer dodge the fact that we are cherry-picking which information to release based on politics rather than national interest. Former VP Dick Cheney's demands that we release all information pertinent to the topic has driven us into a corner and forced us to restrict access to any such information until we can formulate a more expedient way to pillory our political opponents, such as selective, well timed leaks."
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:32:14am |
re: #84 LGoPs
We are watching an amateur at work.
* * * * *
I applaud anytime Obama reverses himself from stupid leftist positions, and follows Pres. Bush and Vice President Cheney's example.
May Pres. Obama be a fast learner, in areas where President Bush was right.
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Kenneth Wed, May 13, 2009 11:32:28am |
Note that the man in the video did not say that the Armies of Allah & Mohamed will merely liberate Jerusalem or the West Bank or Gaza or to establish the 1967 borders. He said the Armies of Allah & Mohamed would rise up and annihilate Israel.
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:32:44am |
re: #89 jcm
Rabbit Bait sold Iran and Zimbabwe down the shit hole. He's got a lot of blood on his fucking hands.
And he's got a Nobel Peace Prize to boot. Tells you all you need to know about what those are worth today........
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Nevergiveup Wed, May 13, 2009 11:32:59am |
re: #92 SixDegrees
Translation: "The President can no longer dodge the fact that we are cherry-picking which information to release based on politics rather than national interest. Former VP Dick Cheney's demands that we release all information pertinent to the topic has driven us into a corner and forced us to restrict access to any such information until we can formulate a more expedient way to pillory our political opponents, such as selective, well timed leaks."
That and if you try fucking with the Military any more you will regret it.
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calcajun Wed, May 13, 2009 11:33:07am |
re: #79 Liberal Classic
I thought he who controls the spice controls the universe.
Who ever controls Avery Island, LA (which, for the uninitiated, is where Tabasco comes from) , controls the universe?
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Shug Wed, May 13, 2009 11:33:22am |
I hope people are not complaining about him not releasing these photos
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Nevergiveup Wed, May 13, 2009 11:33:43am |
re: #94 Kenneth
Note that the man in the video did not say that the Armies of Allah & Mohamed will merely liberate Jerusalem or the West Bank or Gaza or to establish the 1967 borders. He said the Armies of Allah & Mohamed would rise up and annihilate Israel.
Well that's what they always say in Arabic anyway.
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:35:04am |
re: #93 alegrias
* * * * *
I applaud anytime Obama reverses himself from stupid leftist positions, and follows Pres. Bush and Vice President Cheney's example.May Pres. Obama be a fast learner, in areas where President Bush was right.
That's fine but he is still an amateur and a dangerous one to boot. The mixed messages that his flipflops put out to the rest of the world, and mainly to our enemies, puts us all in peril.
POTUS should not be an entry level job.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 11:35:26am |
Since Barack Obama has announced that he plans to address the Muslim world from Egypt in early June, perhaps he could raise the subject of television shows like this one
He could. . .but he certainly won't.
Obama seems far more interested in criticizing the USA and apologizing for past American actions, than in criticizing the Arab world.
I'm still waiting for Obama to articulate anything even close to a strategy for preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. . .that is, anything OTHER than his current strategy, which seems to be apologizing and asking nicely.
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kansas Wed, May 13, 2009 11:35:47am |
re: #94 Kenneth
Note that the man in the video did not say that the Armies of Allah & Mohamed will merely liberate Jerusalem or the West Bank or Gaza or to establish the 1967 borders. He said the Armies of Allah & Mohamed would rise up and annihilate Israel.
Hello? Occupation has never meant West Bank or Gaza. It has always meant the existence of Israel.
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Russkilitlover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:36:23am |
re: #93 alegrias
* * * * *
I applaud anytime Obama reverses himself from stupid leftist positions, and follows Pres. Bush and Vice President Cheney's example.blockquote>
It gives me a glimmer of hope that our checks and balances are still a tad effective.
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MandyManners Wed, May 13, 2009 11:37:00am |
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:37:24am |
re: #102 LGoPs
That's fine but he is still an amateur and a dangerous one to boot. The mixed messages that his flipflops put out to the rest of the world, and mainly to our enemies, puts us all in peril.
POTUS should not be an entry level job.
* * * *
Deal with it. Agree with you, but 7% of the voters elected him over the experienced old guy.
I am pleased Pres. Obama appears to be learning fast and following some of Pres. Bush's better policies on defense & national security.
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JohnnyReb Wed, May 13, 2009 11:37:42am |
re: #91 opnion
Amazing, ain't it. President of Law Review, but no articles!
Yep. I googled it and found nothing but articles and such that pretty much gush love and unicorn poop about him "balancing" the office and bringing a "multicultural" attitude to the office.
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 13, 2009 11:37:47am |
What if, instead of assuming Obama's tacit support for this kind of thing because he's going to give a talk in Egypt (of course we know that Bush supported this stuff too because he did the swordy two-step with Abdullah) - what if everybody here sent a link to this video with a polite message calling attention to its content to the White House and respective congresspeople?
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lawhawk Wed, May 13, 2009 11:37:50am |
re: #95 LGoPs
Technically, his Nobel Prize was for being what was essentially an innocent bystander to the Israel-Egyptian peace deal. His involvement was primarily to lubricate the deal with US funds, and to hold the talks at Camp David.
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Russkilitlover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:37:53am |
re: #98 Shug
I hope people are not complaining about him not releasing these photos
Complaining? No. ROTFL our AO - most definitely.
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MandyManners Wed, May 13, 2009 11:37:59am |
re: #100 buzzsawmonkey
I was going to order the wallet size.
I want an 8x10 of the dude with the panties on his head.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 11:38:03am |
re: #98 Shug
I hope people are not complaining about him not releasing these photos
I think not releasing them is the right thing to do as long as he isn't going to accede to Cheney's request and release related documents detailing the benefits of some of the techniques employed. I'm a big boy, and I can handle all of the information, thanks; no need to spoon-feed me only one side of it.
I strongly doubt that 0's motives were pure, however. I think Cheney called his bluff, and 0 folded instead of standing.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 13, 2009 11:38:21am |
re: #98 Shug
I hope people are not complaining about him not releasing these photos
Seething spotted at DKos...
Sorry, but this sucks. Totally. After announcing that they will not prosecute low level war crime suspects, the Obama administration now changes direction and decided that they will block the publication of photographs showing the abuse of prisoners by US soldiers.
...Obama is capitulating to right-wingers. And here are a few simple questions: Why is Bushs' secretary of defense, Gates, still secretary of defense? Why are we still in Iraq?
I have given money to the Obama campaign and supported him anyway I could. I want him to succeed. But it is now becoming obvious that he can not bring real change. He either does not have the power or the willingness to do so.
Heh.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, May 13, 2009 11:38:30am |
re: #40 buzzsawmonkey
The Egyptian franchise of "Captain Kangaroo" is certainly different from the one I remember.
It's a lovely Neighborhood they've got.
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:39:02am |
re: #107 alegrias
* * * *
Deal with it. Agree with you, but 7% of the voters elected him over the experienced old guy.I am pleased Pres. Obama appears to be learning fast and following some of Pres. Bush's better policies on defense & national security.
Of course I'm dealing with it. What other choice do I have?
But I do not trust his judgement or his instincts. Not for an instant.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 13, 2009 11:39:36am |
re: #114 NJDhockeyfan
Seething spotted at DKos...
Obama capitulating?
I find it hilarious that both right wing and left wing are going nuts over the man, and for different reasons.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 11:40:06am |
re: #109 Cato the Elder
What if, instead of assuming Obama's tacit support for this kind of thing because he's going to give a talk in Egypt (of course we know that Bush supported this stuff too because he did the swordy two-step with Abdullah) - what if everybody here sent a link to this video with a polite message calling attention to its content to the White House and respective congresspeople?
An excellent suggestion. Way ahead of you, for what it's worth.
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:40:09am |
re: #40 buzzsawmonkey
The Egyptian franchise of "Captain Kangaroo" is certainly different from the one I remember.
We had Mr Green Jeans. They have Mr Mean Jeans.
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JohnnyReb Wed, May 13, 2009 11:40:15am |
re: #114 NJDhockeyfan
Heh.
Oh it is definitely starting to unravel for the LLL. I give them until mid/late summer for a true meltdown on the One.
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Russkilitlover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:40:19am |
re: #97 calcajun
Who ever controls Avery Island, LA (which, for the uninitiated, is where Tabasco comes from) , controls the universe?
Does not control me! I love hot sauce, but not Tabasco - too much vinegar, not enough pepper flavor. I like Tapatio much better.
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jcm Wed, May 13, 2009 11:41:00am |
re: #110 lawhawk
Technically, his Nobel Prize was for being what was essentially an innocent bystander to the Israel-Egyptian peace deal. His involvement was primarily to lubricate the deal with US funds, and to hold the talks at Camp David.
Kissenger & Nixon laid the foundation. Rabbit Bait collected the low hanging fruit.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 11:41:41am |
re: #114 NJDhockeyfan
Heh.
I love the smell of moonbat heads exploding. It smells like...victory.
Or at least, as close as we can come to it at the moment. I'll take it anyway.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, May 13, 2009 11:41:41am |
re: #119 LGoPs
Captain Kangaroo always makes me think "Counting Flowers on the Wall," which is probably the happiest sounding sad song ever recorded.
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Last Mohican Wed, May 13, 2009 11:41:43am |
re: #90 Nevergiveup
I wonder if the town of Bethlehem is of any importance to the Pope. In 1998, its inhabitants were 85% Christian. By 2005, Christians accounted for only 20% of the population, as a result of violent, systematic ethnic cleansing carried out by the town's Muslims, as well as the far-lower birth rate of Arab Christians compared to that of Arab Muslims.
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kansas Wed, May 13, 2009 11:41:52am |
Cheney has been engaged in quite a bit of push back lately. Seems to me his rationality is overriding his not being "popular". Hey kids, text Cheney to 1800AREYOUFUCKINGHAPPY NOW?
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 11:43:01am |
re: #93 alegrias
* * * * *
I applaud anytime Obama reverses himself from stupid leftist positions, and follows Pres. Bush and Vice President Cheney's example.
I don't think Bush and Cheney had a monopoly on effective governance.
I applaud whenever Obama simply does something that helps the USA. Unfortunately, I haven't been applauding very much.
I'm trying to think of things that Obama has done that I agree with, or that I think demonstrated really good governance, and its hard for me to come up with good examples. He did keep the Secretary of Defense on board, and that was a pretty good thing.
Increasing the gov't deficit to unprecedentedly high levels, and running around the world apologizing for prior American actions aren't doing it for me.
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Kenneth Wed, May 13, 2009 11:43:03am |
The curious sacking of Gen McKiernan
Obama's top US general in Afghanistan has been shown the door, but top brass at the Pentagon haven't really explained why.
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:43:14am |
re: #116 LGoPs
Of course I'm dealing with it. What other choice do I have?
But I do not trust his judgement or his instincts. Not for an instant.
* * * *
I'm proud of you for dealing with it.
Mustn't give in to despair or extremism!
Must encourage his good choices loudly, and work to elect reasonable people to change the balance in Congress from yes-men & yes-women.
(Did you see Pelosi's arch enemy, Steny Hoyer, wants her to testify about her lies? Hoyer wanted Pelosi's job as Speaker of the House, so now's his chance to topple her.)
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jcm Wed, May 13, 2009 11:43:23am |
re: #121 Russkilitlover
Does not control me! I love hot sauce, but not Tabasco - too much vinegar, not enough pepper flavor. I like Tapatio much better.
Tapito! mmmm Big bottle in my fridge at all times. My Mexican friends who introduced me call it "Mexican Ketchup." She makes chicken enchiladas to die for.... damn now I'm really hungry.
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MandyManners Wed, May 13, 2009 11:43:43am |
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LilyGecko Wed, May 13, 2009 11:44:25am |
re: #124 SixDegrees
I love the smell of moonbat heads exploding. It smells like...victory.
If you listen, you can hear them. It sounds like:
Grrr....pop!
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opnion Wed, May 13, 2009 11:44:33am |
THe brainwashing of chidren in the video is of course despicable.
How about the Saudi funded schools in the U.S? The text books taught hate agianst Jews & the West. They promised to clean up. Did anybody check?
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Russkilitlover Wed, May 13, 2009 11:44:56am |
re: #131 jcm
Tapito! mmmm Big bottle in my fridge at all times. My Mexican friends who introduced me call it "Mexican Ketchup." She makes chicken enchiladas to die for.... damn now I'm really hungry.
LOL! I buy it at a local Mexican market - you can get the gigantor size there!
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:45:04am |
re: #132 MandyManners
Beatcha'.
My apologies and my compliments. Late to the thread and jumping in and out........
:)
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 11:45:36am |
re: #127 kansas
Cheney has been engaged in quite a bit of push back lately. Seems to me his rationality is overriding his not being "popular". Hey kids, text Cheney to 1800AREYOUFUCKINGHAPPY NOW?
Cheney is a decidedly mixed blessing. On the one hand, his ongoing criticism of the current Administration allows the Dems to continue running Against Bush. On the other, he's an excellent spokesperson when it comes to making claims of classified information showing real results against terrorism, having been in a position to know; demanding the release of this information along with the release of information which casts the former Administration in a bad light puts 0 in an awkward spot, and seems to have forced a capitulation on the release of cherry-picked information.
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 13, 2009 11:46:14am |
re: #126 Last Mohican
I wonder if the town of Bethlehem is of any importance to the Pope. In 1998, its inhabitants were 85% Christian. By 2005, Christians accounted for only 20% of the population, as a result of violent, systematic ethnic cleansing carried out by the town's Muslims, as well as the far-lower birth rate of Arab Christians compared to that of Arab Muslims.
My leftist friends in the "peace movement" would tell you the loss of Christian population in Bethlehem and environs is entirely due to Israel's oppression of the Palestinians and has nothing - nothing - to do with Islamism.
The would tell you lots of other engaging stories too, if you hadn't already slammed the door on them in disgust.
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:46:20am |
re: #130 alegrias
* * * *
I'm proud of you for dealing with it.
Mustn't give in to despair or extremism!
Must encourage his good choices loudly, and work to elect reasonable people to change the balance in Congress from yes-men & yes-women.(Did you see Pelosi's arch enemy, Steny Hoyer, wants her to testify about her lies? Hoyer wanted Pelosi's job as Speaker of the House, so now's his chance to topple her.)
Didn't see the Hoyer thing but looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, May 13, 2009 11:46:22am |
re: #131 jcm
One of my favorites is Sriracha. It's great on Chinese food.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 13, 2009 11:46:32am |
re: #120 JohnnyReb
Oh it is definitely starting to unravel for the LLL. I give them until mid/late summer for a true meltdown on the One.
Then we'll have meltdowns to the right (Paulians) and meltdowns to the left (Kossacks). By October, we should be the only sane ones standing.
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Cato the Elder Wed, May 13, 2009 11:46:55am |
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John Neverbend Wed, May 13, 2009 11:46:56am |
re: #122 buzzsawmonkey
Inspirational stuff!
I always thought that Zaqum and Gharqad were Klingon words.
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Desert Dog Wed, May 13, 2009 11:47:12am |
re: #91 opnion
Amazing, ain't it. President of Law Review, but no articles!
He was busy "reviewing" and did not have time to write one I guess?
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Ben Hur Wed, May 13, 2009 11:48:13am |
re: #109 Cato the Elder
What if, instead of assuming Obama's tacit support for this kind of thing because he's going to give a talk in Egypt (of course we know that Bush supported this stuff too because he did the swordy two-step with Abdullah) - what if everybody here sent a link to this video with a polite message calling attention to its content to the White House and respective congresspeople?
Bush at least put contingencies on aid going to Egypt - that some of the money needed to go to pro-democracy groups. The reason Mubu didn't visit Washington during G-Dub's 2nd term.
The One has cancelled that condition.
Because democracy sucks.
And stability is most important.
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alegrias Wed, May 13, 2009 11:48:30am |
re: #128 looking closely
I don't think Bush and Cheney had a monopoly on effective governance.
I applaud whenever Obama simply does something that helps the USA. Unfortunately, I haven't been applauding very much.
I'm trying to think of things that Obama has done that I agree with, or that I think demonstrated really good governance, and its hard for me to come up with good examples. He did keep the Secretary of Defense on board, and that was a pretty good thing.
Increasing the gov't deficit to unprecedentedly high levels, and running around the world apologizing for prior American actions aren't doing it for me.
* * * * *
I meant to say where Pres. Bush and Vice President Cheney were right, such as on defense, national security, etc.
Certainly, President Bush's record was not 100% to my liking. No President is 100%.
It was not great that Bush caved on some issues, or had no support to change Social Security.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 11:48:37am |
re: #114 NJDhockeyfan
Heh.
Releasing photos of perceived US maltreatment of prisoners would be an absolute catastrophe. Abu Graib wasn't all that long ago, and remember how much angst that caused? This would be re-opening that all over again.
Its not a question of capitulating to the Right, but rather doing what's right.
The "right" thing is NOT to air every bit of the USA's dirty laundry for the world to examine, because nothing is gained by doing it. It would only hurt the USA, and if Obama thinks he won't be blamed, he's wrong.
If Obama wants to prevent future abuse, or ban "enhanced interrogation" he can do that without kicking up a hornet's nest.
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:49:03am |
re: #146 Desert Dog
He was busy "reviewing" and did not have time to write one I guess?
Give the man a break willya? He was busy working on his memoirs. Both of them.
/
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opnion Wed, May 13, 2009 11:49:04am |
re: #130 alegrias
* * * *
I'm proud of you for dealing with it.
Mustn't give in to despair or extremism!
Must encourage his good choices loudly, and work to elect reasonable people to change the balance in Congress from yes-men & yes-women.(Did you see Pelosi's arch enemy, Steny Hoyer, wants her to testify about her lies? Hoyer wanted Pelosi's job as Speaker of the House, so now's his chance to topple her.)
It's worse than that, Pelosi wanted Murtha in Hoyers spot.
Hoyer has to really despise her.
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Desert Dog Wed, May 13, 2009 11:49:28am |
re: #139 Cato the Elder
My leftist friends in the "peace movement" would tell you the loss of Christian population in Bethlehem and environs is entirely due to Israel's oppression of the Palestinians and has nothing - nothing - to do with Islamism.
The would tell you lots of other engaging stories too, if you hadn't already slammed the door on them in disgust.
Yes, if you give them land, they will stop. If you make peace with them, they will stop. If you agree to the peace process, they will stop. I seem to remember quite a few fairy tales from the left about how to deal with "Palestine".
Our current leader does have a new angle though....throw Israel under the bus, and hopefully, they will stop....
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opnion Wed, May 13, 2009 11:49:37am |
re: #137 buzzsawmonkey
A mere promise is sufficient among men of honor.
//////
Silly me, they are people of faith.
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nikis-knight Wed, May 13, 2009 11:49:42am |
re: #128 looking closely
I don't think Bush and Cheney had a monopoly on effective governance.Of course not, but the point is that Obama continues many of the national security/foreign policy measures that he campaigned against from the Bush administration.
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LilyGecko Wed, May 13, 2009 11:49:44am |
re: #148 Erik The Red
Where are you getting that? That is vile.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, May 13, 2009 11:49:54am |
re: #150 looking closely
The "right" thing is NOT to air every bit of the USA's dirty laundry for the world to examine, because nothing is gained by doing it. It would only hurt the USA, and if Obama thinks he won't be blamed, he's wrong..
Then what will Obama possibly talk about in his speeches the next time he does an apology tour?
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Desert Dog Wed, May 13, 2009 11:51:15am |
re: #151 LGoPs
Give the man a break willya? He was busy working on his memoirs. Both of them.
/
Yes, when I was in my 20's I thought that I should write my memoirs too. But, then I realized I don't know shit and I have not accomplished shit....I guess that Revelation did not come to Obama?
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:51:39am |
re: #154 debutaunt
A totally depraved Onion could never match this vile pile of excrement.
Hey! Excrement has some redeeming qualities....like being used for fertilizer to grow things. Khomeini poisoned things.........
He doesn't rate being compared to excrement.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 11:52:13am |
re: #138 SixDegrees
Cheney is a decidedly mixed blessing. On the one hand, his ongoing criticism of the current Administration allows the Dems to continue running Against Bush. On the other, he's an excellent spokesperson when it comes to making claims of classified information showing real results against terrorism, having been in a position to know; demanding the release of this information along with the release of information which casts the former Administration in a bad light puts 0 in an awkward spot, and seems to have forced a capitulation on the release of cherry-picked information.
Bluntly, the Obama administration "started it" by opening the door to prosecution of Bush administration lawyers and others.
Cheney wouldn't have to hit back if the Obama administration wasn't being so petty.
Further, his response wouldn't have any resonance if the Obama administration weren't so hypocritical.
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JohnnyReb Wed, May 13, 2009 11:52:53am |
re: #157 nikis-knight
I don't think Bush and Cheney had a monopoly on effective governance.Of course not, but the point is that Obama continues many of the national security/foreign policy measures that he campaigned against from the Bush administration.
Yep on almost every single point of his campaign, with the possible exception of closing GITMO, he has added to or left in place nearly all of the Bush policies. He has not kept one single campaign promise and LLL people are starting to get mad.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 13, 2009 11:52:58am |
re: #158 LilyGecko
Where are you getting that? That is vile.
"From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom,
Iran, 1990". It's the Ayatollah's own words. He was a depraved character.
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:53:06am |
re: #161 Desert Dog
Yes, when I was in my 20's I thought that I should write my memoirs too. But, then I realized I don't know shit and I have not accomplished shit....I guess that Revelation did not come to Obama?
Well said. Can you imagine the arrogance necessary to write not one, but two memoirs? Talk about being full of yourself.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 11:53:42am |
re: #155 Desert Dog
Our current leader does have a new angle though....throw Israel under the bus, and hopefully, they will stop....
If its any consolation, this attitude has probably united Israel a bit more than it has been in years passed.
Netanyahu probably owes at least part of his recent election to the perception within Israel that an Obama administration could make things harder for Israel.
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LilyGecko Wed, May 13, 2009 11:54:39am |
re: #160 Erik The Red
I looked the book up on Amazon... the first person to review it sang its praises and gave it *****. What a creep.
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nikis-knight Wed, May 13, 2009 11:55:10am |
re: #165 JohnnyReb
Yep on almost every single point of his campaign, with the possible exception of closing GITMO, he has added to or left in place nearly all of the Bush policies. He has not kept one single campaign promise and LLL people are starting to get mad.
Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date. Of course, for the country, a lot of the time that is a good thing.
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albusteve Wed, May 13, 2009 11:55:20am |
re: #167 LGoPs
Well said. Can you imagine the arrogance necessary to write not one, but two memoirs? Talk about being full of yourself.
someone else is behind it....and further what did he study and who did he associate with in college...I'm still waiting, there is something extremely insidious going on....I'm a con monger
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pink freud Wed, May 13, 2009 11:56:10am |
re: #167 LGoPs
Well said. Can you imagine the arrogance necessary to write not one, but two memoirs? Talk about being full of
yourself.shit.
/I could not help myself
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:56:45am |
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 11:57:07am |
re: #165 JohnnyReb
Yep on almost every single point of his campaign, with the possible exception of closing GITMO, he has added to or left in place nearly all of the Bush policies. He has not kept one single campaign promise and LLL people are starting to get mad.
Entertaining to watch how the "crush" is wearing off, but irrelevant.
They gave their money and votes to Obama and he doesn't need them anymore.
He may disappoint them, but ultimately, he's the absolute most-leftist candidate to ever hold the office of the POTUS, and probably the most leftist they could ever expect.
They'll support him come re-election time.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 13, 2009 11:58:54am |
re: #147 Ben Hur
Bush at least put contingencies on aid going to Egypt - that some of the money needed to go to pro-democracy groups. The reason Mubu didn't visit Washington during G-Dub's 2nd term.
The One has cancelled that condition.
Because democracy sucks.
And stability is most important.
Since the only opposition in Egypt that hasn't been destroyed by the government is the Muslim Brotherhood...
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 11:59:39am |
re: #171 albusteve
someone else is behind it....and further what did he study and who did he associate with in college...I'm still waiting, there is something extremely insidious going on....I'm a con monger
I can't bring myself to look at this guy when I see him in news snippets. I have a visceral reaction and turn my head away. The faux sophisticated look on his face makes me want to wretch. The only thing the guy has mastered is the art of the con job.
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Desert Dog Wed, May 13, 2009 12:00:43pm |
re: #165 JohnnyReb
Yep on almost every single point of his campaign, with the possible exception of closing GITMO, he has added to or left in place nearly all of the Bush policies. He has not kept one single campaign promise and LLL people are starting to get mad.
Funny how Obama's new policy, much of it what Bush left, is not getting dragged over the coals on a daily basis by the MSM. Why is that? He did not pull out of Iraq the day after he was sworn in. He did not close Gitmo. He is still using rendition and other intelligence related policies that had them foaming in the mouth at the NYT, MSNBC, et al...YET, nothing from the peanut gallery.
And to that, he has stated over and over again he is against gay marriage. I guess that is ok too?
Why does this man continue to get a pass? He is spending us into oblvion, taking us down a dangerous international path, and he is keeping many if not most of the most hated policies of the Bush Administration, YET you do not hear a peep of complaints, except from the right....and then, they are labeled as "sour grape losers". UGH!
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calcajun Wed, May 13, 2009 12:01:56pm |
re: #148 Erik The Red
Where I come from, a man who does this usually ends up with his manhood nailed to a tree. Damn--I wish more folks would be sensitive to my cultural heritage.
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calcajun Wed, May 13, 2009 12:02:28pm |
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LGoPs Wed, May 13, 2009 12:02:53pm |
On another note, I saw a snippet of Obama at the Correspondent's Dinner and what struck me was not his line about 'all you in the Press that voted for me' but the response to it. You would have thought the home team just scored the winning touchdown from the applause and cheers of the media. The same media that is supposed to be our watchdog. They ought to rename the event the Pravda Dinner........
The MFM should be ashamed of itself.
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albusteve Wed, May 13, 2009 12:02:56pm |
re: #178 Desert Dog
part of the left is witless and can't figure out what is going, and the rest are just too humiliated to speak out...it's all so phony
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Erik The Red Wed, May 13, 2009 12:03:16pm |
re: #179 calcajun
Where I come from, a man who does this usually ends up with his manhood nailed to a tree. Damn--I wish more folks would be sensitive to my cultural heritage.
You will love this one than.
A woman who has contracted a continuing marriage does not have the right to go out of the house without her husband’s permission; she must remain at his disposal for the fulfilment of any one of his desires, and may not refuse herself to him except for a religiously valid reason. If she is totally submissive to him, the husband must provide her with her food, clothing, and lodging, whether or not he has the means to do so. A woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to be paid damages if she is repudiated.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 13, 2009 12:03:47pm |
re: #178 Desert Dog
Funny how Obama's new policy, much of it what Bush left, is not getting dragged over the coals on a daily basis by the MSM. Why is that? He did not pull out of Iraq the day after he was sworn in. He did not close Gitmo. He is still using rendition and other intelligence related policies that had them foaming in the mouth at the NYT, MSNBC, et al...YET, nothing from the peanut gallery.
And to that, he has stated over and over again he is against gay marriage. I guess that is ok too?
Why does this man continue to get a pass? He is spending us into oblvion, taking us down a dangerous international path, and he is keeping many if not most of the most hated policies of the Bush Administration, YET you do not hear a peep of complaints, except from the right....and then, they are labeled as "sour grape losers". UGH!
He is doing irreparable damage to the US, by throwing our allies (Israel, Britain, Japan) and other countries who count on us for protection (Saudi Arabia) under the bus.
They'll find other countries for support, and the US will be left on its own, weakened by Obama's defense cutbacks.
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calcajun Wed, May 13, 2009 12:05:30pm |
re: #183 Erik The Red
You will love this one than.
A woman who has contracted a continuing marriage does not have the right to go out of the house without her husband’s permission; she must remain at his disposal for the fulfilment of any one of his desires, and may not refuse herself to him except for a religiously valid reason. If she is totally submissive to him, the husband must provide her with her food, clothing, and lodging, whether or not he has the means to do so. A woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to be paid damages if she is repudiated.
OK--I can kinda get behind that--to a degree. It happens anyway when BillyBob won't let Merlene go get her hair done until she puts out.////
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 12:06:17pm |
re: #171 albusteve
someone else is behind it....and further what did he study and who did he associate with in college...I'm still waiting, there is something extremely insidious going on....I'm a con monger
I don't subscribe to whacko conspiracy theories.
Forget the grades; I'd just like to know what COURSES our President took in college. He attended two different ones as an undergraduate, IIRC.
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Desert Dog Wed, May 13, 2009 12:06:58pm |
re: #184 Kosh's Shadow
He is doing irreparable damage to the US, by throwing our allies (Israel, Britain, Japan) and other countries who count on us for protection (Saudi Arabia) under the bus.
They'll find other countries for support, and the US will be left on its own, weakened by Obama's defense cutbacks.
But, hey, it's cool....they will all like us. And, at the end of the day, that is what really matters, yes?
/
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 12:08:17pm |
re: #178 Desert Dog
It's called a "double standard".
Invoking a "State secrecy defense" is only bad when Republicans do it, etc.
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AZDave Wed, May 13, 2009 12:09:10pm |
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nikis-knight Wed, May 13, 2009 12:10:40pm |
re: #189 SixDegrees
Probably not. This sounds suspiciously like an Islamic version of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," written in the same spirit and with the same intent.
And that isn't an Islamic textbook? That's a relief.
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kansas Wed, May 13, 2009 12:11:10pm |
re: #138 SixDegrees
Cheney is a decidedly mixed blessing. On the one hand, his ongoing criticism of the current Administration allows the Dems to continue running Against Bush. On the other, he's an excellent spokesperson when it comes to making claims of classified information showing real results against terrorism, having been in a position to know; demanding the release of this information along with the release of information which casts the former Administration in a bad light puts 0 in an awkward spot, and seems to have forced a capitulation on the release of cherry-picked information.
The Dems were running against Bush before Cheney came out. If anything his push back has given some balance to the lies they were telling. So, in my opinion the only negative Cheney brings is that the moonbats think he is mean and the MSM can get all orgasmic about his popularity ratings.
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albusteve Wed, May 13, 2009 12:11:45pm |
re: #186 looking closely
I don't subscribe to whacko conspiracy theories.
Forget the grades; I'd just like to know what COURSES our President took in college. He attended two different ones as an undergraduate, IIRC.
what whacko theory are you alluding too?
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:13:21pm |
re: #163 looking closely
Bluntly, the Obama administration "started it" by opening the door to prosecution of Bush administration lawyers and others.
Cheney wouldn't have to hit back if the Obama administration wasn't being so petty.
Further, his response wouldn't have any resonance if the Obama administration weren't so hypocritical.
It doesn't really matter who started it; Cheney is correct to challenge what has been an obviously selective release of information, and is in an excellent position to call for the release of balancing reports.
In other ways, he is not my first choice as a critic of 0's Administration. But in this particular instance, he has the chops for it.
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Erik The Red Wed, May 13, 2009 12:14:24pm |
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:15:15pm |
re: #191 nikis-knight
And that isn't an Islamic textbook? That's a relief.
Perhaps you misunderstood. I was referring to it as an "Islamic version" of that putrid pile in the sense that it is in all likelihood a forgery with Islam as it's target instead of Judaism.
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Erik The Red Wed, May 13, 2009 12:16:26pm |
re: #196 SixDegrees
Perhaps you misunderstood. I was referring to it as an "Islamic version" of that putrid pile in the sense that it is in all likelihood a forgery with Islam as it's target instead of Judaism.
See my # 195
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AZDave Wed, May 13, 2009 12:16:58pm |
re: #41 alegrias
OT
I love seeing Robert Gibbs defending US troops and saying "Nothing is added by release of Photos"...
I love seeing the ACLU seethe because innocent US troops are being defended by THIS President.
For now, anyway. Tomorrow's another day.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:18:19pm |
re: #195 Erik The Red
re: #191 nikis-knight
Buy the book Here I don't believe for one minute that this is NOT being taught.
What book? The one referenced in the ad, which is obviously not an original source, doesn't strike me as being unbiased.
Can you provide an authoritative reference to the quotes you posted, and that appear on your follow-up links, that is credible? I have a very hard time believing that this is anything but fiction, in exactly the same vein as matzohs baked with infant blood.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:18:38pm |
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 12:18:38pm |
re: #193 albusteve
what whacko theory are you alluding too?
This one:
"someone else is behind it" [his memoirs]
I have no doubt that someone else HELPED Obama write (or ghost wrote) his memoirs. But I sort of doubt that some shadowy figures are pulling his strings like the proverbial puppet.
I have a feeling that Obama won't release his transcripts because:
a. His choice of course material appears embarrassing 30 years later, and/or
b. His grades were mediocre.
Remember, this is a guy who by his own admission used to hang around the Marxist professors in college:
[Link: 209.157.64.200...]"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.".
So I strongly suspect (by his own admission) that his transcript is larded up with frou-frou leftist garbage courses appropriate to "Marxist professors and structural feminists".
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nikis-knight Wed, May 13, 2009 12:19:39pm |
re: #196 SixDegrees
Perhaps you misunderstood. I was referring to it as an "Islamic version" of that putrid pile in the sense that it is in all likelihood a forgery with Islam as it's target instead of Judaism.
Hmm... do you have any source? Isn't Khomeini still alive to dispute it's veracity if it is a falsehood?
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AZDave Wed, May 13, 2009 12:21:59pm |
re: #102 LGoPs
[snip]
POTUS should not be an entry level job.
Obama: empty suit;
Biden: stuffed shirt.
The Dem's concept of balance.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:23:14pm |
re: #200 SixDegrees
Saw it. Not credible.
The actual reviews for this book - available here - seem extraordinarily uninformed and partisan in comparison to the single one you linked to. It is also out of print; odd, if it were in any sense a worthwhile reference on the topic, given it's recent lineage.
Color me completely unimpressed.
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albusteve Wed, May 13, 2009 12:23:19pm |
re: #201 looking closely
BO was paid big money up front to write his books...it's obvious to me he was groomed by Ayres and probably Soros and others...he didn't write these books then shop them around...as for school there are a multitude of people involved in protecting his past...say what you will
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nikis-knight Wed, May 13, 2009 12:23:59pm |
re: #203 buzzsawmonkey
Okay, thanks... wasn't someone by a similar name from Iran in NY recently? Not Mahmoud A., I know about him.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:24:36pm |
re: #202 nikis-knight
Hmm... do you have any source? Isn't Khomeini still alive to dispute it's veracity if it is a falsehood?
It isn't my job to prove a negative; it's the job of those offering such quotes to produce evidence of their veracity.
It's one of those sciencey things.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 12:25:04pm |
re: #194 SixDegrees
It doesn't really matter who started it; Cheney is correct to challenge what has been an obviously selective release of information, and is in an excellent position to call for the release of balancing reports.
In other ways, he is not my first choice as a critic of 0's Administration. But in this particular instance, he has the chops for it.
I think it does matter, because until relatively recently, it was standard practice for prior administration officials NOT to openly criticize their predecessors (and generally vice versa).
Cheney likely wouldn't have responded here if not provoked first.
I agree that for partisan political purposes Cheney is not the "best" possible critic of the Obama administration, but in this particular case his response has added credibility since he was personally "there" and was aware firsthand of what went on. Not too many can say that, and Obama is already trying to intimidate the ones who can.
If/when a better critic comes along, I'm sure Cheney will happily return to trout fishing, hunting, or whatever else he's spending his time with nowadays.
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Erik The Red Wed, May 13, 2009 12:25:09pm |
re: #199 SixDegrees
re: #205 SixDegrees
The actual reviews for this book - available here - seem extraordinarily uninformed and partisan in comparison to the single one you linked to. It is also out of print; odd, if it were in any sense a worthwhile reference on the topic, given it's recent lineage.
Color me completely unimpressed.
Plenty of credible links and references to these quotes. Will try and find one that you will accept.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:25:36pm |
re: #203 buzzsawmonkey
Khomeini has been dead for years.
The quotes which SixDegrees has been questioning, however--and others much like them--have been referenced here many times over the years, from various sources, including Muslim "ask the Imam"-type websites.
Can you provide those references, then?
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nikis-knight Wed, May 13, 2009 12:26:01pm |
re: #208 SixDegrees
It isn't my job to prove a negative; it's the job of those offering such quotes to produce evidence of their veracity.
It's one of those sciencey things.
Ohhh, thanks for the lesson! Now I can learn!
/
I just thought maybe you were better informed than the ones you were objecting to, that's all.
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Erik The Red Wed, May 13, 2009 12:26:12pm |
re: #208 SixDegrees
It isn't my job to prove a negative; it's the job of those offering such quotes to produce evidence of their veracity.
It's one of those sciencey things.
WTF do you want? Go and google your self.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:26:16pm |
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nikis-knight Wed, May 13, 2009 12:26:40pm |
re: #211 buzzsawmonkey
One of the current ayatollahs is named Khameini, with an "a," but he does not have the stature of the late Khomeini.
That's it, thanks. I was confused at the time as well.
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Curtain of Oz Wed, May 13, 2009 12:26:46pm |
Perhaps Obama can unclench their little child hands?
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albusteve Wed, May 13, 2009 12:27:49pm |
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:28:20pm |
re: #213 nikis-knight
Ohhh, thanks for the lesson! Now I can learn!
/
I just thought maybe you were better informed than the ones you were objecting to, that's all.
I'm a skeptic by nature. Eric has said he will try to find more credible references.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 12:28:46pm |
re: #206 albusteve
BO was paid big money up front to write his books...it's obvious to me he was groomed by Ayres and probably Soros and others...he didn't write these books then shop them around...as for school there are a multitude of people involved in protecting his past...say what you will
Cash advances are standard in the publishing industry.
I can't speak to the size of Obama's particular advances in comparison to others, but its at least plausible that publishers might think his books were marketable based on his personal profile and characteristics. (/I don't know if you've noticed this, but the man is somewhat of a bull@#$ artist).
But even granting that powerful liberals groomed Obama (and its probably true) that doesn't mean they're pulling his strings.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:28:49pm |
re: #218 albusteve
it's all archived
Then turning one up shouldn't present any real problems. I look forward to seeing them when they're provided.
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albusteve Wed, May 13, 2009 12:32:08pm |
re: #220 looking closely
Cash advances are standard in the publishing industry.
I can't speak to the size of Obama's particular advances in comparison to others, but its at least plausible that publishers might think his books were marketable based on his personal profile and characteristics. (/I don't know if you've noticed this, but the man is somewhat of a bull@#$ artist).
But even granting that powerful liberals groomed Obama (and its probably true) that doesn't mean they're pulling his strings.
being groomed through shady book deals and hiding ones academic record sure smells of strings being pulled, or whatever you want to not call it
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nikis-knight Wed, May 13, 2009 12:35:13pm |
re: #224 buzzsawmonkey
You need to update your links; that's an amusing "page not found."
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:36:19pm |
re: #214 Erik The Red
WTF do you want? Go and google your self.
You're the one making the claim that these quotes are valid. Did you bother to check them, or did you simply accept them because they fit what you wanted to hear?
It strikes me that such outrageous statements, if true, would be well known and frequently trumpeted even by moderate sources. Yet I've never run across them anywhere until now, and their source seems to be only Internet sites. Surely, if this is part of Islamic doctrine there ought to be references with citations all the way from newspapers and magazines to peer-reviewed journals on politics and religion. Even on Wikipedia. Yet all Wiki has to say about it directly contradicts the quotes you provided.
A primary source would be ideal, of course. But it shouldn't be hard to find one more authoritative than a second-hand book review.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 12:43:42pm |
re: #227 SixDegrees
A primary source would be ideal, of course. But it shouldn't be hard to find one more authoritative than a second-hand book review.
Here is your "primary source":
[Link: ethnikoi.org...]
Just find yourself an Arabic translator. . .
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 12:45:05pm |
re: #228 looking closely
Here's an alleged excerpt from the Farsi translation, if you happen to know any Persians:
[Link: www.homa.org...]
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Erik The Red Wed, May 13, 2009 12:45:39pm |
re: #227 SixDegrees
We will revisit this at a later time. I need to go. Not forgotten, not ducking the issue you have. If you google the book there are plenty of references to these quotes.
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Erik The Red Wed, May 13, 2009 12:49:24pm |
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:52:31pm |
re: #228 looking closely
Here is your "primary source":
[Link: ethnikoi.org...]
Just find yourself an Arabic translator. . .
So you're accepting it simply because you agree with what the website you found this on has to say?
Meanwhile, however, I found what seems to be a more believable discussion of the work in question at this page. It's sounding more and more like bullshit; thanks for the reference that led me here.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 13, 2009 12:53:42pm |
re: #230 Erik The Red
We will revisit this at a later time. I need to go. Not forgotten, not ducking the issue you have. If you google the book there are plenty of references to these quotes.
The quotes seem to be forgeries, just as the statements in the Protocols are forgeries.
I wouldn't suggest using them just for that reason.
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blangwort Wed, May 13, 2009 1:08:35pm |
So, when given half the chance, we should be surprised when the children who watch this crap commit genocide?
I think not.
With programming like this, we don't need to wonder what will come next. If Israel falls (and with this administration, it could) this is what we can expect.
And just as before, nobody will care, unless or until the Israelis launch their nukes at these perps. Then countries such as Russia and China will threaten Israel with their arsenal.
So how do we stop this? We expose them. We ask our government why we do not support the Israelis against such hatred. And when they fail to answer satisfactorily, we make a campaign out of it.
I've always wondered what the precursors to WW II looked like. I don't wonder any more.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 1:14:23pm |
re: #227 SixDegrees
A bit more seriously, the Khomeinist work in question is in Arabic on Islamic jurisprudence and is 1200 pages long.
Tracking down a poorly sourced quote is difficult. . .to say the least. Tracking down a complete English-language translation. . .not easy either.
I think this represents an English-translated version of the work in question, though a quick perusal of the table of contents shows its abridged (ie chapters are missing):
[Link: www.al-shia.org...]
Needless to say, any chapters on marriage are absent in this translation. The chapter dealing with the sale of animals does not mention sexual activity.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 1:53:45pm |
re: #232 SixDegrees
So you're accepting it simply because you agree with what the website you found this on has to say?
Where did I say I accepted it?
Erik the Red "got" it. . .I was just being tongue in cheek giving you the Arabic language link.
Looking into this a bit, I've come up with the following:
a. The Shia websites all insist the work in question contains no such quotes. That's not really proof one way or another, but at least indicates that there is some controversy.
b. This work is supposed to be a comprehensive overview of Islamic jurisprudence. So if Khomeini did have an opinion on the Islamic legality of sexual relations with young girls (for example) it should probably be in there.
c. The only English language translation I can find is the one I linked to above which seems to have no sections whatever on marriage. Given that the original is supposed to be 1200 pages long and this on-line translation appears to be far shorter, I have to believe its abridged.
Of course you can't prove that something does NOT exist, only that it does. But doing some digging, I haven't been able to find a properly sourced primary translation delineating the "controversial" passages. So, I have to put this in the category of "not true until proven otherwise".
Not that it really matters. I don't need quotes from Khomemi allegedly legitimizing bestiality to have problems with his legacy of "Death to America" Iran.
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Charles Johnson Wed, May 13, 2009 2:31:48pm |
After following the links to this Khomeini story, I've decided to delete the posts with quotes, because the whole thing does seem to be fraudulent. I investigated further and not only are the sources for these quotes suspect (to say the least -- some of them seem completely whacked out), I can't find a single valid source that backs them up.
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shlomzie Wed, May 13, 2009 3:21:16pm |
The Arab states not only condone child abuse in many forms. Witness, for example, the United Arab Emirate practice of kidnapping young children to use as camel jockeys.
See the report at [Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]
I quote:
“We’ve seen children tied onto the camel and have heard reports of Velcro being used on a child’s trousers to tack him onto the animal’s hump,” ...
Children that are trafficked are terrified and mistreated while being used as camel jockeys and they are deprived of food and water prior to a race to keep them as light as possible.
Camel racing in Gulf countries is a local pastime and has grown into a multi-million dollar business in the UAE. Although UAE is one of the most developed countries in the Gulf region, UNICEF reports that the country's child exploitation levels are believed to be the worst. Young kidnapped or trafficked boys make the best jockeys as their lightweight frames match the structure of a camel’s back.
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voluble Wed, May 13, 2009 3:32:01pm |
Obama won't release his transcripts because it is obvious he isn't very bright and his transcripts will make that fact obvious to other people who aren't very bright, thus shattering the coalition of the under-educated and ill-educated that form the basis of his ruling coalition.
As to hoping that he has something to say against Islamic fascism... I wouldn't hold my breath. He has to rename terrorist attacks "manmade disasters" to even bring himself to think about the issue. He has absolutely no moral authority to speak about any such thing after attending a vilely antisemitic church for 20 years and after palling around with known and unrepentant terrorists.
Anyone who thinks it is cool to hang out with Marxist professors doesn't have enough moral authority to lecture anyone, about anything, ever. Such activity is cool only in exactly the same manner, and to the same degree, as attending neo-nazi skinhead meetings are cool.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 3:54:45pm |
re: #237 Charles
After following the links to this Khomeini story, I've decided to delete the posts with quotes, because the whole thing does seem to be fraudulent. I investigated further and not only are the sources for these quotes suspect (to say the least -- some of them seem completely whacked out), I can't find a single valid source that backs them up.
Hey Charles, would you consider Mark Steyn a credible source?
I just found this. Its a a long read, but it appears to be documented, and (fortunately) hilarious. The "punch line" is that apparently Khomeini did say some of these cuckoo things, just not in the book that is usually ascribed to him.
[Link: www.steynonline.com...]
And the "money" bit with the book faceplate in the second link below:
[Link: www.steynonline.com...]
[Link: www.steynonline.com...]
Now, undoubtedly, someone is going to make the argument that its a bad translation, but I'll leave that fight up to the Arabic/Farsi scholars.
More on this kerfluffle:
[Link: deborahgyapong.blogspot.com...]
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Charles Johnson Wed, May 13, 2009 4:05:20pm |
re: #240 looking closely
Steyn's citations are to the very same sources -- I don't think that's any more credible than anything else I've read on this.
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looking closely Wed, May 13, 2009 4:38:31pm |
re: #241 Charles
Steyn's citations are to the very same sources -- I don't think that's any more credible than anything else I've read on this.
Unless I've missed something here, Steyn is citing totally different sources than the ones referenced above in this thread.
Most of these quotes (at least on the internet) reference Khomeni's Tahrirolvasyleh which (as mentioned above) is an extended treatise on Islamic Law. That's where I looked before, with one English translation linked in post #235. And I couldn't find these quotes in the abridged translation I referenced. All of the Shia sites that purport to renounce the quotes, refer to THAT work specifically. The Wiki entry also references that work.
But, Steyn is referencing an entirely different work, Resaleh Towzih al-Masael a question compendium.
Steyn is also helpful enough to provide direct scans of a scholarly English translation of the book from 1984 with face pages, plus scans of the relevant passages from the original in Farsi.
The translation is apparently out print, but note that you might be able to pick up an English copy for yourself here:
[Link: www.alibris.com...]
The point is, "Six degrees" asked for a primary source. Steyn provides one (with extra documentation), in Farsi and with English translation, and with scans for anyone to see, linked above.
I was skeptical, but this looks pretty persuasive to me. Unless you think Steyn make up a false scan and posted it, this is "real". Again, *maybe* you could argue a bad translation from the original Farsi, but that seems pretty implausible, and I'll have to leave that up to the Persian speakers to determine.
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eaglewingz08 Wed, May 13, 2009 5:10:32pm |
Gee, it doesn't seem like the Jews are the ones hiding behind trees or civilians in the Holy Land, but the muslim terrorists seem to be the ones hiding behind the skirts of women and children and civilians there. Are we to make of that fact that the arabs are the 'jews' that the Quran were talking about and that they will be wiped out on Judgment day by the Jews/Israelis?
That may not go over well in Egypt, so this thug maybe should have another toot on his hooka.
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Code Red 21 Wed, May 13, 2009 5:45:00pm |
It's only child abuse if you spank your little rug rats behind for being naughty...just ask the U.N. Now teaching a child to hate the Jews, that's just child's play.
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nines09 Wed, May 13, 2009 6:18:48pm |
Good thing Egypt is at peace with Israel. There surely is a place in hell for....words fail me.....insects like this. Can't we all just get along? Not with this mentality. Mr Rogers on hate pills. I was waiting for Mr McHatred to knock and Mr Trolly to turn the corner and blow up as it went through a Jewish market. Howdy Neighbor!
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Charles Johnson Wed, May 13, 2009 8:30:49pm |
re: #242 looking closely
The Ayatollah Khomeini was an evil scumbag, there's no doubt about that. But he's not the only evil scumbag, and there are some people who push false stories specifically to demonize entire groups of people.
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abolitionist Wed, May 13, 2009 10:00:59pm |
re: #196 SixDegrees
Perhaps you misunderstood. I was referring to it as an "Islamic version" of that putrid pile in the sense that it is in all likelihood a forgery with Islam as it's target instead of Judaism.
So you are suggesting that Khomeini wrote Tahrirolvasyleh to hurt islam? That is sooo twisted.
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Abu Lahab Wed, May 13, 2009 10:45:53pm |
And this is only on TV show that was caught on Mermi, imagine what does not get caught! Disgusting and sad.
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Abu Lahab Wed, May 13, 2009 10:49:34pm |
re: #246 Charles
The Ayatollah Khomeini was an evil scumbag, there's no doubt about that. But he's not the only evil scumbag, and there are some people who push false stories specifically to demonize entire groups of people.
You are absolutely right Charles. (This Khomeini story was started mainly by extremists Sunnis, btw). He was an evil man, no question about it, but there is so much true and credited stuff to face him with rather than to come up with such stories.
Your blog is the best and sanest.
Thank you
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