Pelosi Accuses CIA of Lying to Her About Waterboarding

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Obviously, Nancy Pelosi can’t continue to stick to her story that she was “never told” that the CIA was using waterboarding on a few detained terrorists, now that documents have been released showing that she was briefed on it.

So now she says the CIA lied to her.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi today accused the CIA of “misleading” her on the use of harsh interrogation techniques in the fall of 2002, acknowledging for the first time publicly she knew alleged terrorist detainees were subjected to waterboarding more than six years ago.

Pelosi called for the CIA to release detailed portions of her own September 2002 briefing about interrogation techniques, saying that at that time she was told the CIA was not waterboarding detainees. After weeks of sticking to prior statements that she then was never “briefed” about waterboarding’s use, Pelosi today said her top security adviser was part of a briefing in February 2003 in which he learned interrogators were waterboarding terrorists.

Is anyone out there buying her spin?

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292 comments
1 acwgusa  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:26:36am

Only the True Believers.

2 debutaunt  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:26:40am

Deception gone awry.

3 JohnnyReb  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:26:56am

She has went and pretty much stepped into it big time now. She is on record as saying she was lied to by the CIA. Even Nancy should know not to do that.

4 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:27:12am

Well, every cloud has a silver lining. It's been entertaining watching Pelosi's career crash and burn, with no signs of abating anytime soon.

5 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:27:21am

It was fun watching her squirm between the lies at the press conference.

6 CIA Reject  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:27:29am

This is going to come down to a nit-picking festival over the definition and use of the word "waterboarding".

Kind of like "what the definition of is is" on steroids.

7 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:27:30am

That's going to go over real well at Langley.

8 JohnAdams  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:27:51am

She couldn't sell me air on Pluto.

9 simonml  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:27:51am

The problem is that now if Pelosi tells the truth no one will believe her. You can only cry "wolf" (Bush is a liar) so many times.

10 albusteve  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:27:53am

Third in line...simply amazing

11 irongrampa  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:28:02am

Since Pelosi doesn't seem to get the first rule about digging holes, I vote we rent her a backhoe.

12 Ben Hur  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:28:07am
Is anyone out there buying her spin?

100%

This is totally meant for her constituents in San Fran that reflexively never believe anything coming out of the CIA.

13 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:28:20am

Is anyone out there buying her spin?

Probably, but then they probably also believe there are alien bodies being stored in Area 51.

14 LGoPs  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:28:46am

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Will the Democrats and their lapdog media be able to protect Pelosi from herself?

15 turn  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:28:56am

Every time she blinks her nose gets a little longer.

16 debutaunt  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:29:07am

re: #10 albusteve

Third in line...simply amazing

Amazing and unnerving.

17 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:29:16am
Is anyone out there buying her spin?

Only 1/2 the country awaiting their unicorn that will never come.

18 ROPMA  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:29:24am

The fun has just begun. The CIA won't let this slide.

19 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:29:32am

re: #15 turn

Every time she blinks her nose gets a little longer.

Hmmm...nice idea for a photo shop contest.

20 JohnAdams  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:29:43am

re: #9 simonml

The problem is that now if Pelosi tells the truth no one will believe her. You can only cry "wolf" (Bush is a liar) so many times.

Let's not get into hypotheticals.

21 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:29:48am

re: #4 Leonidas Hoplite

Well, every cloud has a silver lining. It's been entertaining watching Pelosi's career crash and burn, with no signs of abating anytime soon.

Democrats are like Weebles - they wobble but they don't fall down. There's still that dude serving in Congress who had ill-gotten money stashed in his freezer.

22 CommonCents  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:29:52am

That's crazy talk. The CIA doesn't lie.
/s

23 Honorary Yooper  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:30:14am

re: #12 Ben Hur

100%

This is totally meant for her constituents in San Fran that reflexively never believe anything coming out of the CIA.

Sadly, her act is transparent to all but them. Give it up, Madame Speaker, you knew, you approved, have the guts and fortitude to admit to it.

24 pat  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:30:23am

This is easily refuted if untrue. I wonder where this goes?

25 Ben Hur  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:30:25am

Democrats never resign.

26 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:30:31am

re: #15 turn

Every time she blinks her nose gets a little longer.

That's Pinocchio. Her nipples get....ah never mind.

27 CIA Reject  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:30:33am

re: #12 Ben Hur

100%

This is totally meant for her constituents in San Fran that reflexively never believe anything coming out of the CIA.

Yup! All politics is local. To stay in power (her only objective) all she needs to do is convince her constituents to re-elect her.

Just like John Murtha ...

28 simonml  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:30:43am

re: #20 JohnAdams

Let's not get into hypotheticals.

LOL! I knew at the very least it was a big IF

29 Shug  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:31:03am

Oh what a tangled web they weave

30 quickjustice  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:31:16am

The CIA often has been incompetent and disloyal (witness the Valerie Plame debacle), but at Washington political infighting, they remain ninja masters.

I wouldn't want to be in Pelosi's position right now. Obama, Emanuel, and Hoyer would love to replace Pelosi with Hoyer, giving the White House complete control over the House of Representatives.

31 JohnnyReb  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:31:24am

re: #9 simonml

The problem is that now if Pelosi tells the truth no one will believe her. You can only cry "wolf" (Bush is a liar) so many times.

She has used the same line before. Bush fooled us and made us vote to go to war in Iraq. Bush lied and we had to sing off on the Patriot Act, etc..

32 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:31:38am

She wasn't briefed. She was informed by those who were briefed, but she was not briefed. What part of this don't you people understand?
/

33 turn  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:31:44am

re: #19 Leonidas Hoplite

ha, yeah that would be funny. Too bad I don't know squat about using that program.

34 JohnAdams  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:31:44am

re: #25 Ben Hur

Democrats never resign.

Deny until you die.

35 [deleted]  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:31:52am
36 turn  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:31:58am

re: #26 Nevergiveup

LOL

37 alegrias  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:32:08am

Charles,

Thank you for this thread. Bankrupt California deserves better than Pelosi, and our bankrupt country deserves a better person at 3rd in line for the Presidency, than this weasel Pelosi.

At long last, Ms. Pelosi, have you no decency?

Step down for the sake of President Obama, if nothing else.

38 debutaunt  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:32:44am

re: #32 redstateredneck

She wasn't briefed. She was informed by those who were briefed, but she was not briefed. What part of this don't you people understand?
/

The Clinton-Pelosi School of Really Reaching.

39 pat  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:32:47am

The briefing reports still exist. Maybe the truth commission should be more like an ethics committee.

40 SummerSong  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:33:09am

I hope she spins herself straight out of a job.

41 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:33:25am

re: #13 Bubblehead II

Is anyone out there buying her spin?

Probably, but then they probably also believe there are alien bodies being stored in Area 51.


You mean, there aren't?

42 JohnAdams  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:33:40am

Watching Pelosi lie is like watching LeBron James play basketball. All-World quality.

43 Honorary Yooper  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:33:52am

re: #40 SummerSong

I hope she spins herself straight out of a job.

She keeps this up, she might just do that. You have to wonder how much longer the other Dems in the House will let her go on like this.

44 doppelganglander  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:34:04am

Only someone as heavily Botoxed as Nancy could keep a straight face while telling such a bold-faced lie and demanding the appointment of a truth commission.

45 schnapp  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:34:08am

She would look less pathetic if she admitted that she knew what was going on and defended waterboarding.

46 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:34:08am

Even Chris Matthews is having trouble covering for her. Now that's bad.

47 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:34:16am

Chuck Schumer on interrogations: 2004 and 2009

Youtube Video
48 badger1970  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:34:30am

"Yeah, yeah, it was the CIA, yeah, they, ah lied to me, yeah, that's the ticket. They just lied." /channeling the San Fran Skeletor.

49 LGoPs  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:34:35am

re: #37 alegrias

Charles,

Thank you for this thread. Bankrupt California deserves better than Pelosi, and our bankrupt country deserves a better person at 3rd in line for the Presidency, than this weasel Pelosi.

At long last, Ms. Pelosi, have you no decency?

Step down for the sake of President Obama, if nothing else.

Democrats never step down for the good of the country. That's because to them the good of the Party is what's good for the country.

50 doppelganglander  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:34:51am

re: #42 JohnAdams

Watching Pelosi lie is like watching LeBron James play basketball. All-World quality.

Nah. If she were that good, she wouldn't get caught.

51 simonml  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:34:58am

re: #42 JohnAdams

Watching Pelosi lie is like watching LeBron James play basketball. All-World quality.

But she's not good at it. Outright lying about things that are easily disproved? CMON!

She's more like me playing basketball. All spastic and enthusiastic, but with no skill at all.

52 CommonCents  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:35:04am

When she is done in Congress she has a great gig lined up as a contortion artist.

53 Darwin Akbar  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:35:07am

I heard one of the Democrats spinning that (and I paraphrase) "There's no point in looking back and examining who said what and when and who was told this or that...."

Really? Ask Scooter Libby.

54 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:35:17am
her top security adviser was part of a briefing in February 2003 in which he learned

So she wasn't even there? For a national security briefing by the CIA? That just makes it worse!

55 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:35:25am

re: #41 Capitalist Tool

Shhhh. It's a secret.

56 Cheesehead  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:35:28am

Pelosi the puke is a lying S_B who doesn't have a milligram of decency in her shriveled old body. What a despicable wench.

57 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:35:42am

How will the left try to turn this whole flap to their advantage?

58 badger1970  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:36:02am

re: #49 LGoPs

What do we expect her to do? Do an Abe Vagoda?

59 Honorary Yooper  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:36:30am

re: #52 CommonCents

When she is done in Congress she has a great gig lined up as a contortion artist.

Vegas or Branson?

60 Athos  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:36:33am

I am wondering that as the Speaker implodes over her lies - if people will catch on to the fact that she, and those of her party who continue to support her, are doing this for political expediency and placing politics ahead of what's best for the nation?

Unfortunately, she will never admit her error and this is why the Dems ultimately are going to be asking for her resignation as Speaker of the House.

61 MJ  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:36:47am

Who's buying it?

Keith Olbermann and the MSNBC crowd.

62 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:37:18am

re: #57 Capitalist Tool

How will the left try to turn this whole flap to their advantage?

Unfortunately, it will probably all just go away eventually given the lack of media interest in scorching one of their own.

Heck, even Spitzer is working on his comeback.

63 SummerSong  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:37:19am

re: #43 Honorary Yooper

She keeps this up, she might just do that. You have to wonder how much longer the other Dems in the House will let her go on like this.

I'm guessing she's made enemies within her own party. Wouldn't surprise me if other issues she's vunerable on start to leach out.

64 JohnAdams  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:37:28am

What's disturbing about our system is that a small district of loons in NoCal can inflict this evil shrew on the whole country virtually forever, or until the half-life of the chemicals holding her up expires.

65 tfc3rid  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:37:46am

Hmmm... So will she resign for the Speaker's post over this? I recall GOP speakers-elect (Livingston) being forced away from the position because of marital infidelity and yet Nan 'approved' of torture... Oh my!

66 MikeAlv77  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:37:47am

re: #13 Bubblehead II

Is anyone out there buying her spin?

Probably, but then they probably also believe there are alien bodies being stored in Area 51.

But wait... there are aliens in Area 51.. I saw them...

//

67 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:37:49am

re: #44 doppelganglander

Only someone as heavily Botoxed as Nancy could keep a straight face while telling such a bold-faced lie and demanding the appointment of a truth commission.

That's perfect. A ding for you, my dear!

68 VegasRick  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:37:52am

re: #59 Honorary Yooper

Vegas or Branson?

Please. Send her to A/C.

69 KenJen  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:37:54am

So Nancy just found out about waterboarding. She is really going to shit her pants when she finds out that we are at war in Iraq.

70 CIA Reject  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:38:03am

re: #57 Capitalist Tool

How will the left try to turn this whole flap to their advantage?

I think the Swine Flu is about to make a big comeback, and what's more important arguing over meetings from seven years ago or making sure the children have health care?

/I wish I was being sarcastic.

71 itellu3times  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:38:27am

She couldn't believe her ears.

/spock

72 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:38:36am

re: #57 Capitalist Tool

How will the left try to turn this whole flap to their advantage?

With a broom and a rug.

73 alegrias  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:38:37am

OT

Pres. Obama wants the US to provide $100 Billion in loan guarantees to the International Monetary Fund.

It would only cost us taxpayers $10-20 Billion in spare change. What a bargain, huh?

Carl Cameron on Fox.

74 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:38:43am

When the folks realize they are not getting their promised unicorns, they will begin to see through the other lies.

75 baier  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:38:56am

If you're caught lying, blame the boogieman CIA. A Tactic of leftist hegemons the world over.

76 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:38:57am

re: #61 MJ

Who's buying it?

Keith Olbermann and the MSNBC crowd.

Chris Matthews has become a mere clown, but Rachel Maddow invokes my gag reflex w/in a minute- every time I happen to tune her in.

77 Darwin Akbar  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:39:07am

By the way, I still don't get it....Is she claiming that the CIA lied when they said they were waterboarding or did they lie when the said they weren't going to waterboard?

Get your story straight, you silly old biddy.

78 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:39:07am

re: #54 Russkilitlover

So she wasn't even there? For a national security briefing by the CIA? That just makes it worse!

She was fighting a war in Iraq. Or fighting against a war in Iraq. Or something.

79 itellu3times  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:39:24am

re: #74 unrealizedviewpoint

When the folks realize they are not getting their promised unicorns, they will begin to see through the other lies.

I'm just expecting a unicorn burgers and steak package.

80 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:39:28am

re: #69 KenJen

So Nancy just found out about waterboarding. She is really going to shit her pants when she finds out that we are at war in Iraq.


ROTFL!

81 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:39:35am

re: #73 alegrias

OT

Pres. Obama wants the US to provide $100 Billion in loan guarantees to the International Monetary Fund.

It would only cost us taxpayers $10-20 Billion in spare change. What a bargain, huh?

Carl Cameron on Fox.

Doesn't he need to ask China's permission first?

82 [deleted]  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:39:40am
83 Cheesehead  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:39:41am

re: #61 MJ

Who's buying it?

Keith Olbermann and the MSNBC crowd.

Total number of brain cells in the afore-mentioned: Zero

84 subsailor68  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:39:51am

re: #43 Honorary Yooper

She keeps this up, she might just do that. You have to wonder how much longer the other Dems in the House will let her go on like this.

Morning HY! I'm wondering that myself. I know I'm a bit of a dreamer, but I'd love to see a prospective Speaker of the House say something like:

To my treasured constituents,

As you know, I've always done my best to represent all of you in our district. I will continue to do so. However, if I am elected to the Speakership, please understand that I will need to place the overall well-being of the nation first, even - at times - above the interests of the constituency. I hope you all understand, and continue to show me the support you have so graciously given me in the past.

(Yeah, I know...it will probably not happen in today's political climate.)

85 quickjustice  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:39:53am

re: #37 alegrias

The intrigue runs deeper. Obama is threatening Schwartzenegger with withholding billions in stimulus money if Arnold doesn't restore the Service Employees International Union's (SEIU) jobs. Pelosi might not go along with the Administration if California and her home district suffers. Getting her out of the way helps Obama and the SEIU.

And don't kid yourself. The liberal media wouldn't be covering this story if Obama didn't want them to.

86 JohnnyReb  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:40:00am

re: #73 alegrias

OT

Pres. Obama wants the US to provide $100 Billion in loan guarantees to the International Monetary Fund.

It would only cost us taxpayers $10-20 Billion in spare change. What a bargain, huh?

Carl Cameron on Fox.

Yeah, but he hopes we will get some of that money back.

87 schnapp  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:40:24am

re: #75 baier

If you're caught lying, blame the boogieman CIA. A Tactic of leftist hegemons the world over.

So that's why they blame the CIA for the crack epidemic!

88 JohnAdams  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:40:43am

re: #73 alegrias

OT

Pres. Obama wants the US to provide $100 Billion in loan guarantees to the International Monetary Fund.

It would only cost us taxpayers $10-20 Billion in spare change. What a bargain, huh?

Carl Cameron on Fox.

The site of thousands of semis backed up to the Treasury and teams of criminals loading them up with money has almost become part of the landscape by now.

89 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:40:44am

re: #73 alegrias

OT

Pres. Obama wants the US to provide $100 Billion in loan guarantees to the International Monetary Fund.

It would only cost us taxpayers $10-20 Billion in spare change. What a bargain, huh?

Carl Cameron on Fox.


Memo to BO:

We're broke.

90 Ojoe  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:41:01am

Pelosi moron

91 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:41:15am

Meltdown over this at DKos...


So ALL Repubs that talk about torture get a free pass, but the press feels free to set upon Pelosi like rabid dogs on the topic of torture?

Really?

Nancy was the problem? Srlsy?

Why aren't these guys interested in holding ANYONE accountable who actually made the decisions? We're pummelling people about whether they were informed, when clearly the documented evidence is that they either weren't informed in a timely fashion or were told half-truths?

I am SO FRACKING ANGRY right now.

Hahahahahaha! Heads exploding!

92 alegrias  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:41:38am

re: #65 tfc3rid

Hmmm... So will she resign for the Speaker's post over this? I recall GOP speakers-elect (Livingston) being forced away from the position because of marital infidelity and yet Nan 'approved' of torture... Oh my!

* * * *
Bob Livingston announced his own infidelity and resigned sparing us anguish, shame, time & cash.
Democrats generally stand their ground and defy you to remove them from taxpayer subsidized jobs, at great cost, but they're shameless.

93 nyc redneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:41:48am

'she wasn't "briefed", she was informed, uh told that ummm someone was briefed. she was told ABOUT a briefing, actually just told that a briefing had occurred. it was a policy employed by bush but no one told her what was said.'

well all that makes her look absolutely crazy.
so now she wants to look even crazier and: blame the C.I.A.
'the CIA is misleading the congress of the u.s.'

she is imploding like the wicked witch.

94 formercorpsman  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:42:16am

Folks, if you think somehow her doing this will place her job in jeopardy, remember who her constituents are.

I think it has become so bad, (perhaps by design) this shenanigan can be out in the open, with no repercussion whatsoever.

I expect the politicians to lie to me with a straight face. There are no surprises anymore. The concept of love of country, duty, honor, would not be a reality to these people if it were the teeth of a pit bull biting them in the ass.

These bastards get to dance, spin, shuck, and jive, while real people assume the risk, place their lives in jeopardy doing the dirty work.

She spins, Spann is dead.

95 Tarkus289  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:42:38am

The only thing she was ever good at was obstructing the Bush administration, I knew she would suck at her job, once her party was a majority.

I was right.

96 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:42:39am

re: #82 buzzsawmonkey

Nancy Pelosi must be absolutely green with envy. Obama was able to blow off all the antisemitism and anti-American rhetoric pouring out of his pastor by saying that he wasn't there, wasn't paying attention that day, didn't read the newsletter, yadda yadda.

Here Pelosi is complaining about not having been told, not having been briefed--and she just can't catch a break. She was told but didn't hear; she heard but didn't comprehend; she was lied to; she wasn't there that day.

Oh, how she must wish that Obama would send a load of his patented political Teflon from Pennsylvania Avenue over to Capitol Hill.

Some (Rush) are saying that Obama is probably the one who gave the green light to take down Pelosi.

97 turn  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:42:40am

re: #70 CIA Reject

and ironically they'll also continue the waterboard is "torture" distraction too

98 schnapp  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:43:02am

re: #93 nyc redneck


she is imploding like the wicked witch.

Whatever you do - don't give her water.
On second thoughts . . .

99 baier  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:43:02am

re: #87 schnapp

So that's why they blame the CIA for the crack epidemic!

That makes sense, if the CIA is behind the Crack epidemic, at least we know where Pelosi is getting it.

100 Lee Coller  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:43:22am

How long until she claims she thought "waterboarding" meant "surfing"?

101 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:43:33am

re: #46 Anthony (Los Angeles)

Even Chris Matthews is having trouble covering for her. Now that's bad.

No thrill experienced up his leg when she speaks?

102 CommonCents  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:43:57am

re: #85 quickjustice

And don't kid yourself. The liberal media wouldn't be covering this story if Obama didn't want them to.

That is so true. If this was bothering Obama, it would only be discussed at 5:15 on Friday afternoon in the weekly White House excrement press release.

103 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:44:00am

re: #94 formercorpsman

Folks, if you think somehow her doing this will place her job in jeopardy, remember who her constituents are.

I think it has become so bad, (perhaps by design) this shenanigan can be out in the open, with no repercussion whatsoever.

I expect the politicians to lie to me with a straight face. There are no surprises anymore. The concept of love of country, duty, honor, would not be a reality to these people if it were the teeth of a pit bull biting them in the ass.

These bastards get to dance, spin, shuck, and jive, while real people assume the risk, place their lives in jeopardy doing the dirty work.

She spins, Spann is dead.

Maybe at least Joe Citizen is wising up and will vote their asses out of office in the midterm elections.

104 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:44:03am

I missed the pantsless warrior thread, but must comment on it--my own brother-in-law once ran across his base to shelter under fire, somewhere near Kandahar, wearing a pair of Vlasic Pickle boxer shorts and his flip-flops.

I believe this beats that.

105 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:44:04am

re: #99 baier

That makes sense, if the CIA is behind the Crack epidemic, at least we know where Pelosi is getting it.

Then why is Pelosi taking anti- crack drugs?

106 quickjustice  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:44:13am

I'm certain that Pelosi would melt if someone poured a bucket of water on her. That said, Hoyer is worse, and is tight with Obama and Emanuel. Like "Mastrer Commander", this is a question of the lesser of two weevils.

107 Ben Hur  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:44:22am

I still think she got caught up in friendly fire.

The One had no idea.

BBL

108 JohnAdams  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:44:31am

re: #94 formercorpsman

Word.

109 alegrias  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:45:11am

re: #81 Leonidas Hoplite

Doesn't he need to ask China's permission first?

* * * *
Good thinking! Why is Pres. Obama promising US money when China is our banker of last resort?

Why is Pres. Obama acting like he can make these decisions unilaterally, when we are now only one of G-20, and not a leader anymore?

Defer to China, better yet, let CHINA loan money we don't have.

110 UberInfidel67  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:45:57am

HOW and WHEN can we get rid of this.....person?

111 albusteve  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:46:12am

re: #102 CommonCents

That is so true. If this was bothering Obama, it would only be discussed at 5:15 on Friday afternoon in the weekly White House excrement press release.

if you claim BO actually controls the media, you will branded a con monger

112 jaunte  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:46:24am

Bob Beckel believes Pelosi. In the same way that I believe Bob Beckel.

113 Curtain of Oz  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:46:28am

I want her to stick around. This whole mess makes the Dems look like naive fools, and novices at security. Between this and shutting down Gitmo with no plan, perfect target for next elections. She is a massive donkey's ass that we can kick at will.

114 Tarkus289  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:46:40am

Do the weather forecasters in San Fransisco take into account the wind chill factor produced from Pelosi's eyelids?

115 turn  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:46:48am

re: #85 quickjustice

wow, that's a good conspiracy theory there quick. Seems possible.

116 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:47:10am

re: #110 UberInfidel67

HOW and WHEN can we get rid of this.....person?


If past is prologue when it comes to the whole leftist CYA efforts, don't hold your breath.

117 JohnnyReb  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:47:25am

re: #91 NJDhockeyfan

Meltdown over this at DKos...


Hahahahahaha! Heads exploding!


Wait until they find out that Obama is going to not only not close GITMO, but he is going to continue to detain enemy combatants indefinitely exactly like the evil Bush did. we should see some serious fireworks then.

118 ConservatismNow!  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:47:36am

Didn't these jackasses say the exact same thing about the Iraq War?

119 oh_dude  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:47:51am

And BOOM goes the dynamite.

120 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:47:52am

OT, but Congress wants to make it illegal for satellite companies to carry terrorist shows.

Members of the United States Congress are submitting a bill that will label carriers of incitive satellite stations as terrorist organizations.
The proposed bill, part of US efforts to stem the demonization of Americans in the Arab media, was prompted by what its authors say is incitement to kill Americans on satellite stations.
Channels such as Al-Manar, the mouthpiece of the Lebanon-based Hizbullah, Hamas's Al-Aqsa and A-Rafidein, an Iraqi anti-government channel, are broadcast throughout the Middle East and beyond via satellite carriers ArabSat and NileSat.


This would actually go after the satellite companies, not just the stations. So if Al-Manar broadcasts something, the US pressure ArabSat and NileSat to stop broadcasting the channel.
Personally, I think this goes too far; it opens the door for the government to pressure web providers to stop hosting web sites deemed to be inciting violence. While Stinky does such a good job that LGF might not be pressured, not everyone is that careful.
They can go after the stations, because they control content, but the providers just provide bandwidth.

121 lawhawk  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:47:59am

The media isn't exactly going out of its way to show that Pelosi continues spinning yarns and lying obnoxiously about her knowledge of the EIT and her briefings on the matter. It is a matter of the public record that the briefings took place and that she was there. Other people are on the record as noting what was discussed and that of all those briefed, only Jane Harmon ever had any qualms about what was discussed as aggressive interrogation techniques.

Members briefed actually wondered whether the methods were sufficiently stringent to get the results needed.

Pelosi lies, but the media continues to treat this as though it isn't a sufficient scandal to sink her odious posturing.

Of course, Steny Hoyer has to be sharpening the knives. He was thwarted from the Majority Leadership by Pelosi, and payback is likely in the offing. He can show Pelosi to be unfit for the Leadership by repeatedly lying about her position on national security and that a sober recollection of the events is needed - and one that cannot be obtained with Pelosi at the helm.

Hoyer could claim a two-fer and also right the collective Democrat ship on waterboarding, which has sprung a serious leak.

The CIA isn't taking any of this lying down, and Democrat complaints about leaks ring hollow particularly when they were frothing about how leaks during the Bush Adminstration were needed to expose mistreatment and overreaching by the Bush Administration. Now, they are facing a CIA that is openly hostile to the Obama Administration due to the outing of agents that participated in those sessions, and the collective chain-yanking about the legal culpability for those sessions.

The saddest part is that national security suffers as a result of all the politics, and sooner or later, someone is going to carry out another attack, and we aren't going to be in a position to stop it because of all this nonsense in Congress and the CIA.

122 Fluffy Bunny  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:48:11am

re: #110 UberInfidel67

Let's ask the CIA, I bet they have some ideas. /

123 alegrias  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:48:21am

re: #88 JohnAdams

The site of thousands of semis backed up to the Treasury and teams of criminals loading them up with money has almost become part of the landscape by now.

* * * *
Hush yo' mouth~ those aren't "criminals," they're ACORN community organizers or international community organizers, spreading the wealth around.

So let it be written, so let it be done~

124 quickjustice  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:48:38am

re: #115 turn

You're not paranoid if the little green men (or lizards) are really out to get you! ;-)

125 turn  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:49:00am

re: #91 NJDhockeyfan

ha 59% pissed in that silly poll

126 Bob Dillon  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:49:18am

[Link: www.moonbattery.com...]

A general summation from the grave (1890) of a friend of Lincoln on the matter.

Truisms seem to stand the test of time.

127 joncelli  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:49:37am

re: #110 UberInfidel67

Never. If the Dems ran her corpse in that district they'd vote for her and do so enthusiastically.

128 UberInfidel67  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:49:41am

re: #116 Capitalist Tool

If past is prologue when it comes to the whole leftist CYA efforts, don't hold your breath.

I'll probably be beheaded for saying this, but I really don't know HOW a speaker is chosen or HOW to get rid of one. Is she voted out? Does her term expire. I am totally ignorant on this.

129 Curtain of Oz  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:49:48am

re: #104 SanFranciscoZionist

While in the military, in a very hairy place, my whole team spent 10 days without taking off our boots for this reason. If things are that critical that you need to rush out in your bloomers, then you should have never dropped your pants to begin with.

130 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:49:52am

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu held a meeting Thursday with Jordanian King Abdullah II and promised that he would pursue peace negotiations with the Palestinians, stopping short, however, of consenting to Abdullah's request that he come out in favor of a Palestinian state

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Oh with that stance there should be fireworks in Washington when Bibi meets with Obama. Wish I had a ticket.

131 CIA Reject  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:49:58am

re: #124 quickjustice

You're not paranoid if the little green men (or lizards) are really out to get you! ;-)

... and we're not schizophrenic either! :-)

132 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:50:57am

re: #110 UberInfidel67

HOW and WHEN can we get rid of this.....person?

While many of them seem to hold out well into their 80"s, I'd say- not too soon.

133 UberInfidel67  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:51:17am

re: #127 joncelli

Never. If the Dems ran her corpse in that district they'd vote for her and do so enthusiastically.

OK, now you are scaring me : (

134 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:51:40am

re: #128 UberInfidel67

I'll probably be beheaded for saying this, but I really don't know HOW a speaker is chosen or HOW to get rid of one. Is she voted out? Does her term expire. I am totally ignorant on this.

The Speaker is elected by the votes of peers in the House. more or less.

135 Ben Hur  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:51:40am

back

136 Mortis  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:51:45am

No way in hell do I believe this. She's tap dancing so quick her feet are on fire.

137 CommonCents  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:51:46am

re: #111 albusteve

if you claim BO actually controls the media, you will branded a con monger

Not sure what a con monger is. However, I do think that he and Gibbs have ALOT of influence over NBC affiliated news. No influence on Fox News. And some influence over CNN because they love his wishy washy ways. I don't think he is capable of "controlling" anything. Even himself.

138 alegrias  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:52:09am

re: #94 formercorpsman

* * *
Dear Formercorpsman,

Thank you for remembering young Mike Spann the CIA guy killed in Afghanistan by Nancy Pelosi's Taliban consituent, John " Taliban" Lindh of California, who conveniently lived despite helping murder a fellow American.

139 JohnAdams  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:52:17am

It's called "eye on the ball." Whatever faults of the Bush administration, they had it.

These clowns are pure political dance like a high school prom. Our enemies creep closer.

140 UberInfidel67  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:52:52am

re: #134 Capitalist Tool
So as long as she is a member, they can keep picking her as speaker? Is there an expiration of her term?

141 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:52:57am

re: #116 Capitalist Tool

If past is prologue when it comes to the whole leftist CYA efforts, don't hold your breath.

Besides.... I was cheering when Daschle went down until we got Harry Reid as his replacement. If Pelosi goes down, there'll just be another weasle who's just as bad who will pop up in her place

142 formercorpsman  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:53:28am

re: #103 redstateredneck

You, me, and everyone else would love that.

Sadly, Joe Citizen has been driven out of her district.

Not to be a downer, I am not all that excited about the prospects of the mid-term elections.

At first, I was rather ambivalent to the folks pushing ID, etc. I have said before, I am live and let live. The major problem with the direction of the RNC, is that while you can have these opinions, having them be the battle cry for the next campaign is bullshit.

We have a Presidency, Senate, Congress, and soon to be Supreme Court controlled by left leaning ideologues.

The rate we are placing ourselves in debt in the country can produce almost as much damage as any terror attack.

We are on track to give birth to multiple socialist programs, never to be revised, and in the future when we are told they did not work because they were never funded properly, the wheels just might come off.

143 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:53:38am

re: #140 UberInfidel67

So as long as she is a member, they can keep picking her as speaker? Is there an expiration of her term?

There is an end to her and it's called Steny Hoyer.

144 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:53:40am

re: #130 Nevergiveup

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu held a meeting Thursday with Jordanian King Abdullah II and promised that he would pursue peace negotiations with the Palestinians, stopping short, however, of consenting to Abdullah's request that he come out in favor of a Palestinian state

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Oh with that stance there should be fireworks in Washington when Bibi meets with Obama. Wish I had a ticket.

Given that Abdullasshole told Netanyahu to accept the Arab peace destruction of Israel plan, I think there will be some harsh words. Fortunately, I'm not Prime Minister of Israel, because what I'd say probably isn't printable.
Note that the Arab league rejected the idea that the "refugees" would become citizens in Arab countries, so Israel is once more pressured to make all the concessions.

145 albusteve  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:53:42am

re: #137 CommonCents

Not sure what a con monger is. However, I do think that he and Gibbs have ALOT of influence over NBC affiliated news. No influence on Fox News. And some influence over CNN because they love his wishy washy ways. I don't think he is capable of "controlling" anything. Even himself.

conspiracy monger....the tone has sure changed in six months....do you think BO wants to control the economy?...no way! eh

146 alegrias  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:53:44am

re: #96 Capitalist Tool

Some (Rush) are saying that Obama is probably the one who gave the green light to take down Pelosi.

* * * *
Pelosi kept trying to repeat the theme "I helped elect a new President"
(Obama, you owe me).

Just jump, Pelosi.

147 saylorfam  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:53:45am

I am just sitting here smiling.....I am enjoying watching her twist in the wind and trying to come up with something, anything that will get her away from this mess.
This is what happens when you play in the pits with the big dogs Madam Speaker. I really hope you are enjoying your moment in the Sun.

148 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:53:46am

re: #140 UberInfidel67

So as long as she is a member, they can keep picking her as speaker? Is there an expiration of her term?

Unless she is ousted in a Palace coup, every 2 years she comes back up.

149 Shug  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:54:13am

Pelosi is a liability for the democrats.
keep her in place until the mid terms. then demote her to minority leader

150 subsailor68  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:54:19am

re: #140 UberInfidel67

So as long as she is a member, they can keep picking her as speaker? Is there an expiration of her term?

Here's a link to some information about the Speaker of the House. It seems pretty informative. Hope it helps!

151 LGoPs  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:54:24am

re: #137 CommonCents

Not sure what a con monger is. However, I do think that he and Gibbs have ALOT of influence over NBC affiliated news. No influence on Fox News. And some influence over CNN because they love his wishy washy ways. I don't think he is capable of "controlling" anything. Even himself.

I don't think he really needs to 'control' the media. They are fellow travelers. The media's sickeningly enthusiastic response to Obama's line at the Correspondent's Dinner about them voting for him is all you need to know.

152 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:54:32am

re: #136 Mortis

No way in hell do I believe this. She's tap dancing so quick her feet are on fire.

Channeling Riverdance....

153 lostlakehiker  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:55:01am

Pelosi is now a spent bullet. She rattles around and makes noise, but nobody's afraid of her any more.

The audacity of lying has to be tempered with rudimentary prudence. Don't lie about whether the sun is up if Mama can open the shades and look.

154 UberInfidel67  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:55:02am

re: #143 Capitalist Tool
From your keyboard to God's ears....or whoever else can help get rid of her.

155 albusteve  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:55:31am

re: #142 formercorpsman

I agree 100%...anything is possible, even in the worst case

156 CIA Reject  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:55:42am

re: #148 Nevergiveup

... every 2 years she comes back up.

Kinda like the brown acid from Woodstock ...

157 JohnnyReb  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:55:44am

re: #121 lawhawk

You know what the saddest part of this whole fiasco to me is? Each and every one of our allies are laughing their collective asses off at Obama and Pelosi. They will also never ever trust a single thing this administration sends or tells them. Double plus ungood. And they will never ever provide us with any intelligence because they know it will be leaked.

158 UberInfidel67  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:55:58am

re: #150 subsailor68
Thanks! I am ashamed of myself for not paying more attention over the years to the working of our government. But now, I am older and wiser and will try to do what I think is right for our country. Again, thanks.

159 daledog  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:56:02am

re: #10 albusteve

Fourth in line - the KKK senator.

160 Alone in NY  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:56:24am

"and everyone's lying but Nancy"

Sung to the tune of Rocky Raccoon.

161 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:56:26am

re: #159 daledog

Fourth in line - the KKK senator.

He should live so long...

162 UberInfidel67  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:56:31am

re: #148 Nevergiveup
LOL @ Palace coup.

163 quickjustice  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:56:38am

re: #127 joncelli

I was in San Francisco last October. What was striking was that the city buses traveling through Pelosi's home district were carrying ads purchased by national lobbying organizations. I've never seen that anywhere else.

164 Ben Hur  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:56:53am

re: #152 Leonidas Hoplite

Channeling Riverdance....


RiverNance?

165 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:57:12am

re: #149 Shug

Pelosi is a liability for the democrats.
keep her in place until the mid terms. then demote her to minority leader

Scary, but that may be the only way to end her Speakership. She certainly has job security.

166 turn  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:57:40am

re: #124 quickjustice

The money pouring into our unions via dues here in CA is far outshines what Arnold cut. money is power

167 Shr_Nfr  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:57:45am

re: #127 joncelli

Yeah, its like Barney Frank here in MA. They could plasticize him and show him having sex with another man at that exhibition in Germany and they would still vote him into office.

168 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:57:48am

Here's another talk I wish I could hear
Pope meets Netanyahu in Nazareth
After the Pope's pro-Paliterrorist comments yesterday.
My comments are deleted.

169 VegasRick  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:58:01am

re: #164 Ben Hur

RiverNance?

RiverDunce.

170 _RememberTonyC  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:58:07am

Maybe she'll hire Bubba as her lawyer ... he was an expert at spinning ...

Oh wait a minute ... he was impeached and DISBARRED ...

Nancy looked like a deer in the headlights up there today

171 LGoPs  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:58:16am

re: #143 Capitalist Tool

There is an end to her and it's called Steny Hoyer.

I don't know much about Hoyer but somebody upthread said he's worse than she is IIRC. As much as I like seeing her twist in the wind, her very presence serves as a constant reminder of how far crazy left this government has moved. And that reminder can be a valuable tool.

172 subsailor68  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:58:57am

re: #158 UberInfidel67

Thanks! I am ashamed of myself for not paying more attention over the years to the working of our government. But now, I am older and wiser and will try to do what I think is right for our country. Again, thanks.

No reason to be ashamed! I think it was Socrates who said (paraphrase) "The only thing I know is that I know nothing." The amount of stuff I don't know is absolutely amazing!

;-)

173 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:59:17am

re: #157 JohnnyReb

You know what the saddest part of this whole fiasco to me is? Each and every one of our allies are laughing their collective asses off at Obama and Pelosi. They will also never ever trust a single thing this administration sends or tells them. Double plus ungood. And they will never ever provide us with any intelligence because they know it will be leaked.

And they won't trust the US in the future, after Obama's gone, either.
Amazing the damage the 0 has done in a few months. Imagine what he'll do in four years!

174 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:59:19am

re: #167 Shr_Nfr

Yeah, its like Barney Frank here in MA. They could plasticize him and show him having sex with another man at that exhibition in Germany and they would still vote him into office.

With Ted Kennedy slapping him on the ass.

175 Tarkus289  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:59:57am

re: #174 redstateredneck

Eye bleach please.

176 _RememberTonyC  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:00:07am

I'm looking forward to Robert Gibbs' daily briefing later today ... can't wait to hear how the White House addresses Pelosi's situation ...

177 UberInfidel67  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:00:11am

re: #174 redstateredneck
**barf**

178 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:00:19am

re: #175 Tarkus289

Eye bleach please.

Sorry. I should be more considerate.

179 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:00:26am

re: #170 _RememberTonyC

Maybe she'll hire Bubba as her lawyer ... he was an expert at spinning ...

Oh wait a minute ... he was impeached and DISBARRED ...

Nancy looked like a deer in the headlights up there today

I take your point ;~), but doesn't she ALWAYS look like a deer in the headlights? (except for the blinking)

180 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:01:03am

re: #179 eschew_obfuscation

I take your point ;~), but doesn't she ALWAYS look like a deer in the headlights? (except for the blinking)

She can't help it. It's the botox.

181 calcajun  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:01:41am
Captain Renault: What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca?
Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
Captain Renault: The waters? What waters? We're in the desert.
Rick: I was misinformed.

Yeah--I can see her being misinformed.

182 _RememberTonyC  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:01:56am

re: #179 eschew_obfuscation

I take your point ;~), but doesn't she ALWAYS look like a deer in the headlights? (except for the blinking)


LOL ... today she was particularly "bambi like."

183 eddiebear  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:01:57am

re: #180 redstateredneck

heh.

Expect Botox stock to take a hit.

184 Ben Hur  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:02:07am

Thought police muscle up in Britain

Countryside Restoration Trust chairman and columnist Robin Page said at a rally against the Government's anti-hunting laws in Gloucestershire in 2002: "If you are a black vegetarian Muslim asylum-seeking one-legged lesbian lorry driver, I want the same rights as you." Page was arrested, and after four months he received a letter saying no charges would be pressed, but that: "If further evidence comes to our attention whereby your involvement is implicated, we will seek to initiate proceedings." It took him five years to clear his name

185 cosmo  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:03:07am

Nancy is giving new meaning to the word "twitter" every time she opens her mouth on this. Her physiology is akin to a caffeine junkie going cold-turkey.

Or maybe it's a subdermal botox rebellion.

186 truth stick  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:03:10am

If she isn't careful, she will spin herself into the ground. At the rate she's going the hole will probably be 200 feet deep by the end of the day.....any volunteers to man shovels and fill it back in?

187 albusteve  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:03:13am

expect a BO presser on credit card debt...prime time, during the NBA playoffs

188 calcajun  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:03:22am

re: #180 redstateredneck

She can't help it. It's the botox.

Like Peter O'Toole these days--an expression of perpetual surprise. Either that or something has been unexpectedly thrust up their bum.

189 [deleted]  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:03:45am
190 formercorpsman  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:03:48am

re: #138 alegrias

Thank you. I have a difficult time putting the right words together in order to express what my perception is.

You were able to draw the pathetic irony of my Spann reference better than I ever could.

It hurts me to no end, to realize we have a group of people voting in this country who could see her as credible, and someone like him in the wrong.

Thanks for your polishing.

191 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:04:03am

re: #179 eschew_obfuscation

I take your point ;~), but doesn't she ALWAYS look like a deer in the headlights? (except for the blinking)

She certainly looked under fire as she twisted around during her latest performance... more like fear in the krieg lights.

192 calcajun  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:04:06am

re: #187 albusteve

expect a BO presser on credit card debt...prime time, during the NBA playoffs

Visa--proud sponsor of the NBA!

193 Wendya  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:04:40am

re: #6 CIA Reject

This is going to come down to a nit-picking festival over the definition and use of the word "waterboarding".

Kind of like "what the definition of is is" on steroids.

That's exactly what's happening on several leftist sites as they pretzel themselves trying to put a positive spin on this.

194 CIA Reject  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:04:46am

re: #192 calcajun

Visa--proud sponsor of the NBA!

*THUD*

195 albusteve  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:05:11am

re: #192 calcajun

Visa--proud sponsor of the NBA!

"we interrupt this program...."

196 Capitalist Tool  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:05:33am

re: #187 albusteve

expect a BO presser on credit card debt...prime time, during the NBA playoffs

Taking bets on whether usury rates are left intact...

197 subsailor68  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:05:51am

re: #192 calcajun

LOL!

subsailor68 - proud sponsor of the NRA.

198 CommonCents  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:05:59am

re: #145 albusteve

conspiracy monger....the tone has sure changed in six months....do you think BO wants to control the economy?...no way! eh

I said I don't think is capable of controlling anything, not that he didn't want to.

199 Gus  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:06:29am

Nancy Pelosi goes from saying she was not briefed on the enhanced interrogation. Weeks later she finally admits (after being called on it) that she was briefed by the CIA. Then she denies again being told yet later says the CIA "lied to her." Or something to that effect.

This botoxed imbecile is the Speaker of the House of the United States of America. In the coming months she will be working alongside other congressmen to hammer out healthcare legislation.

She will be rewarded by her constituency with her re-election in the next congressional election. She is perhaps a perfect reflection of the 8th Congressional District of California.

200 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:06:44am

So they were lying to her when they told her they were doing it? She's really gotten twisted up in this whole thing.

/what a tangled web we weave...

201 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:06:51am

re: #176 _RememberTonyC

I'm looking forward to Robert Gibbs' daily briefing later today ... can't wait to hear how the White House addresses Pelosi's situation ...

"I think Speaker Pelosi can speak for herself."

202 VegasRick  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:07:11am

re: #196 Capitalist Tool

Taking bets on whether usury rates are left intact...

-120 (you gotta pay the vig).

203 formercorpsman  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:07:18am

lunch

204 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:07:30am

Luton Mosque fire update........
EXTREMIST BEATEN UP OVER MOSQUE ATTACK

AN ISLAMIC extremist who hurled abuse at Britain’s home-coming troops has been beaten up by fellow Muslims.

Sayful Islam was set upon by moderates who say his controversial beliefs are making their lives hell.

Their mosque was firebombed after he led the now notorious protest against the 2nd Battalion Royal Anglian Regiment’s homecoming parade in Luton in March.
..........
“Punches were thrown and Sayful legged it. He will be looking over his shoulder from now on.’’

One Muslim posted on an Islamic website: “He got bust up. Wherever they go they’d best watch out.’’

One former worshipper at the bombed mosque said: “There has been some trouble. He was not badly hurt but he has not been seen since.

205 jaunte  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:07:50am

I wonder how long it will be before everyone's notes on the briefings come out.

206 alegrias  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:08:01am

re: #190 formercorpsman

Thank you. I have a difficult time putting the right words together in order to express what my perception is.

You were able to draw the pathetic irony of my Spann reference better than I ever could.

It hurts me to no end, to realize we have a group of people voting in this country who could see her as credible, and someone like him in the wrong.

Thanks for your polishing.

* * * * *
Dear Formercorpsman,

Thank you for your service, and for the ultimate sacrifice made by Mike Spann the CIA officer killed by Al Qaeda/Taliban.

I can never forget nor forgive that Nancy Pelosi cares more for the John "Taliban" Lindh's right to hate America and help murder our country's best, our military & intelligence officers in danger abroad, than to defend the vast decent majority of our patriots fighting FOR us.

207 albusteve  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:08:32am

re: #204 Killgore Trout

Luton Mosque fire update........
EXTREMIST BEATEN UP OVER MOSQUE ATTACK

PROGRESS!

208 Erik The Red  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:08:34am

Reminds me of a very old joke. How can you tell when Nancy is lying? Whenever she moves her botoxed lips.

209 CommonCents  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:08:42am

re: #204 Killgore Trout

Luton Mosque fire update........
EXTREMIST BEATEN UP OVER MOSQUE ATTACK

“There has been some trouble. He was not badly hurt but he has not been seen since.

Old school justice. Sweeeeet.

210 DaddyG  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:08:45am

re: #127 joncelli

Never. If the Dems ran her corpse in that district they'd vote for her and do so enthusiastically.

Let them keep her if it costs them the rest of congress.

211 NelsFree  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:09:32am

re: #126 Bobibutu
Excellent find, upding!

212 calcajun  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:09:58am

re: #204 Killgore Trout

This will not be big because it was not a bunch of British football hooligans emptying cans of whup-ass on this guy, but his own brother Muslims.

213 Colin Nelson  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:10:06am

Lying?

Of course she's lying.

It's what she does.

214 turn  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:10:24am

re: #176 _RememberTonyC

I'm looking forward to Robert Gibbs' daily briefing later today ... can't wait to hear how the White House addresses Pelosi's situation ...

assuming he gets asked a question aboout it, just saying.

215 Wendya  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:11:21am

re: #127 joncelli

If the Dems ran her corpse in that district...

Would anyone notice the difference?

216 calcajun  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:11:36am

re: #214 turn

assuming he gets asked a question aboout it, just saying.

We should make a call to one of the reporters in the room--right in the middle of the briefing. Maybe we'll get another phone-flinging moment.

217 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:11:58am

re: #215 Wendya

Would anyone notice the difference?


Weekend at Nancy's.

218 raven1  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:12:28am

Fox news just announced The White House will not release the memos former VP Cheney asked to be released.

219 Last Mohican  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:12:28am

re: #120 Kosh's Shadow

OT, but Congress wants to make it illegal for satellite companies to carry terrorist shows.


Thanks for the link. This is excellent news. It's unbelievable that it has taken this long for congress to get to this, but I'm glad they're doing it, and I hope the Democratic congress will let this through. It's interesting to note this part:

It is possible that the timing of this bill was calculated to coincide with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak visit to the US and American President Barack Obama's visit to Egypt next month.

We'll have to pay attention to Obama's speech in a few weeks. Egypt receives billions of dollars in American aid every year, far more than any other country except Israel, and yet the Egyptian government aids anti-American terrorist groups. Maybe that will change someday.

220 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:14:05am

And this is interesting too....
Two arrests over soldier protest


Two men have been arrested following anti-war protests during a soldier's homecoming parade in Bedfordshire.

Both men, from Luton, were part of a demonstration while soldiers from the Royal Anglian Regiment marched through Luton on 10 March, police said.

The men have been arrested on suspicion of public order offences and are being questioned at Luton police station.

Protesters held placards saying "Anglian Soldiers Go To Hell" and "Butchers of Basra" during the event.

Det Insp Mark Upex said: "These arrests are part of an on going investigation into the events on 10 March and are the result of extensive enquiries and review of CCTV from the day in question.

It looks like the extremists might have set the fire to stoke ethnic/religious tensions.

221 Jon Brooks  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:15:36am

Of course I buy pelosi's line she didn't know. She has obviously..'self Gobbelized'.. herself. All a mind that dim would have to do is repeat to herself several times..I didn't know..I didn't know.. and viola..brain wipe.
A straight jacket, padded cell and lifelong medication and she'll be just fine.

222 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:16:33am

Nope. Not buying her spin at all.

While we're at it, where is Jay Rockefeller in all this?

223 DaddyG  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:16:48am

Everyone knows its Nancy
(Sung to the tune of Everyone knows its Windy)

Who's peekin' out from under a rock
Selling a story no one believes
Who's asking all our troops to bend over
Everyone knows it's Nancy

Who's tripping over her own stories
Lying about the briefings received
Who's reachin' out to spin every moment
Everyone knows it's Nancy

And Nancy has hell to pay
for outing the CIA
And Nancy is MIA
on security (nationally)
on security (nationally)

Who's tripping over her own stories
Lying about the briefings received
Who's hit the basement and keeps digging
Everyone knows it's Nancy

224 Dar ul Harb  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:18:23am

re: #88 JohnAdams

The site of thousands of semis backed up to the Treasury and teams of criminals loading them up with money has almost become part of the landscape by now.

Excellent "fall of Saddam" reference, BTW.

225 FrogMarch  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:19:21am
Is anyone out there buying her spin?


the blind faith D-lovers.

If you could exhume Mohamed Atta from his grave at ground zero, put him in a business suit, stick a (D) behind his name and run him for office, some blind faith democrats would vote for him.

226 jvic  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:20:20am

In other news, Bernard Madoff claimed his brokers lied to him about his strategy's investment returns. Madoff said he never ran a Ponzi scheme, but pled guilty so prosecutors would stop persecuting his family.

227 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:20:28am

re: #18 ROPMA

The fun has just begun. The CIA won't let this slide.

It's going to be very interesting when some CIA minion presents her with some filthy pictures.

228 Rexatosis  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:21:17am

Okay so the first story was "I was never told," Now the story is "I didn't show up to work, sent my 'security advisor' instead (did he have clearance?), so it's the CIA and Bush's fault I didn't know what was going on."

In the real world you get fired with cause for this kind of thing, In Congress you get re-elected and made Speaker. No wonder the country is going to hell in a hand-basket. Un-freakin-belivable!

229 DaddyG  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:21:43am

re: #227 unreconstructed rebel

It's going to be very interesting when some CIA minion presents her with some filthy pictures.

I just can't see Nancy Pelosi wearing Hoovers underwear. /

230 kansas  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:21:43am

re: #225 FrogMarch

the blind faith D-lovers.

If you could exhume Mohamed Atta from his grave at ground zero, put him in a business suit, stick a (D) behind his name and run him for office, some blind faith democrats would vote for him.

I'm pretty sure he voted in the last election. /

231 subsailor68  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:22:09am

re: #227 unreconstructed rebel

It's going to be very interesting when some CIA minion presents her with some filthy pictures.

Heh, heh. The CIA sends the photos in a plain brown envelope, and it's two weeks before Nancy realizes they're copies of her official portrait.

232 Kenneth  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:22:17am

re: #222 unreconstructed rebel

While we're at it, where is Jay Rockefeller in all this?

Hiding under his desk hoping nobody notices.

233 Salamantis  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:24:02am

(with apologies to Bob Seger)

Twist in the wind
Twist in the wind
Pelosi's running her mouth
And twisting in the wind

234 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:27:05am

re: #39 pat

The briefing reports still exist. Maybe the truth commission should be more like an ethics committee.

If nothing else, she may well have torpedoed the truth & reconciliation commission envisioned the senior Senator from Vermont. No telling whose all fingerprints are on this stuff.

235 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:28:33am

I'd have more respect for her if she used the old Steve Martin "I forgot!" defense.

236 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:29:24am

re: #235 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'd have more respect for her if she used the old Steve Martin "I forgot!" defense.

Followed up by the Belushi, "Excuuuuuuuuse me!".

237 amaineiac  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:33:51am

I'm praying Obama and Biden stay healthy. If she somehow gets the top job, I'm moving someplace with a stable government.....like Somolia.

238 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:34:36am

Nancy Pelosi...It wasn't my fault.

239 Rancher  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:38:34am

I was wondering how the Dems could possibly further demoralize the Agency at a time when their efforts are more important than ever before.

240 gearhead  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:41:29am

re: #44 doppelganglander

... a truth commission.

That has a rather ominous ring to it.

241 jcbunga  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:48:11am

For the children

242 anotherindyfilmguy  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:50:15am
Is anyone out there buying her spin?


No. Not even the Democrats... it may be the issue that allows the less extreme of her party remove her lying carcass from the leadership role and relegate her back to the role of insignificant anti-everything US/Humanity kook who only gets to speak for a few minutes every great once in a while until she is unelected, if ever...

243 livefreeor die  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:51:47am

This is getting good. More popcorn!

244 MTF  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:57:52am

Even though Lefties aren't buying her spin, they can't part with their hearts desire, to put Dick Cheney and Karl Rove on "trial". The always entertaining Shuster twitter stream illustrates this beautifully, as he is just all aquiver over the idea of trials for Cheney, Rove, Prejean... whomever. Liberal Fascism is en fuego.

245 SixDegrees  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:59:25am

I imagine we'll start hearing the drumbeat soon of "What did Pelosi know, and when did she know it?" And it will be coming from her own party.

I won't take much for cleared members of Congress to obtain the minutes to the meetings she attended, verify what was said and by whom, and cross-check briefing material against other intelligence records.

And for once, the GOP is doing the right thing - letting the Democrats handle this on their own. She's their mess; make them clean it up. The only GOP involvement required will be if the Dems make a move to bury this, but that doesn't seem likely at this point. Too much negative publicity that crosses their campaign pledges in way too many ways.

And the GOP has to be on the lookout for manipulations by the Executive Branch if/when a new Speaker is selected. Anything that even whiffs like a hand-picked lackey needs to be dragged out into the light with Separation of Powers, Checks and Balances playing loudly in the background. Because I'm certain this will be the next thing to happen.

Look for Reid's demise soon, too.

246 John Neverbend  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:59:43am

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

It was fun watching her squirm between the lies at the press conference.

"Sing to me of the man woman, Muse, the man woman of twists and turns."

247 MTF  Thu, May 14, 2009 10:59:53am

By the way, I refer to David Shuster as "entertaining" in the ssense that he's so mind-bendingly stupid that he cannot help himself from being obvious. If ever one wants to know the lefty talking points du jour, one only need consult the iracle of MSNBC, Dave himself (when he's not on suspension, that is).

248 CEQAttorney  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:00:35am

One thing that a lot of people don't get.

The intelligence agencies don't work for the President; they work for the Executive Branch. That is a significant difference. Presidents may come and go, but the Executive Branch is always there.

What this means is that the intelligence agencies have every incentive to not lie. By lying to make one President happy, the agents may jeopardize their career when the next President is elected (or the current President changes his mind).

And since politicians make it a habit of blaming others for their mistakes, the intelligence communities are not about to go out on a limb.

Unfortunately, Nancy and Obama have been too willing to throw people under the bus for their political gain.

249 tjseagrove  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:01:56am

Can see it now...

"CIA lied, people survived."

250 SixDegrees  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:05:11am

re: #248 CEQAttorney

One thing that a lot of people don't get.

The intelligence agencies don't work for the President; they work for the Executive Branch. That is a significant difference. Presidents may come and go, but the Executive Branch is always there.

What this means is that the intelligence agencies have every incentive to not lie. By lying to make one President happy, the agents may jeopardize their career when the next President is elected (or the current President changes his mind).

And since politicians make it a habit of blaming others for their mistakes, the intelligence communities are not about to go out on a limb.

Unfortunately, Nancy and Obama have been too willing to throw people under the bus for their political gain.

Also, just to expand on your points: the intelligence service isn't exactly a stranger to being made a scapegoat. That, coupled with intermittent bouts of rabid Congressional oversight imposed over the years, has led to an agency that very carefully documents everything. There are bound to be meeting minutes detailing what Pelosi was told, who else was present, dates, times, places and on and on. And there will be reams of material supporting the material that was briefed. Trying to make the claim that the CIA "lied" is simply too easy to disprove; it would take less than an afternoon's worth of hearings to ascertain the truth.

She's in way too deep now, with little hope of recovery. Stick a fork in her; she's done.

251 sawblade88  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:09:31am

re: #149 Shug

Pelosi is a liability for the democrats.
keep her in place until the mid terms. then demote her to minority leader

If the dems lose the House in the midterms, she won't keep minority leader. She will be blamed for the loss, and there will be a challenge, and she will lose -- if she even tries for the post. It's easier to have one scapegoat than the entire Democratic membership.

252 Raiderdan  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:16:41am

Dammit, NJHockey fan beat me to it on John Belushi.

If you want to know whether Pelosi is done or not, just take a look at the Washington Post. They have been running anti-John Murtha stories on his "Airport for Nobody" for the past week. Now, what you say does John Murtha have to do with Pelosi? He was her benefactor in the run-up to the 2006 Speaker race between her and Steny Hoyer. Murtha backed Pelosi over Hoyer, and she became Speaker of the House.

Now, considering that the Washington Post would NEVER take such damaging goods from a GOP source, there's only one place it would come from: Hoyer.

He's laying the groundwork to discredit Pelosi's chief defender and assume the mantle of the Speaker of the House, probably with the Obama administration's approval.

They don't want an anti-Bush bombthrower leading Congress anymore. They need a technocrat who can pass their agenda in time for the 2010 elections.

Nancy Pelosi is an albatross now around Obama's neck. A needless distraction.

That bus is about to go over a big 'ol bump, very soon.

It'll happen, sooner rather than later. Maybe July 4th weekend, or Memorial Day. She'll resign her Speaker post "for the good of the party" and so "I did not want to be a distraction to President Obama's agenda"

She'll be named Ambassador to the UN, or Italy, or some other consolation prize.

253 HippieforLife  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:18:25am

I just watched a video of Ms. Pelosi. I thought that she was totally pathetic when she kept going back to her "statement". She obviously had no clue what her "statement" was.

Too funny that she couldn't remember what she had said just a few minutes earlier.

I do think that she may have gotten herself in deeper when she said the CIA "misled" Congress.

254 ointmentfly  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:20:57am

Yesterday I was flipping channels on a trip out of town and caught Lynn Samuels on Sirius Left. In the first 10 seconds, she called Obama a "p*ssy" and a "piece of sh*t" and after a few minutes she said that Obama was "absolutely incompetent" and had "no idea what he was doing"..... good stuff. I thought it was reference to the pictures not being released, but it had more to do with taking over the banks and auto companies.....

255 Spartacus50  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:22:32am

By her own admission, she was outwitted by George W. Bush and his complicit CIA.

256 Pupdawg  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:26:27am

Several songs, Disney and a nursery rhyme or two instantly come to mind and they have "liar" as their main theme!
Or, as Jack would contend, "you can't handle the truth!"
Or, as my gramps used to say, "son, you wouldn't know the truth if it crawled-up, bit you on the ass and said hidedy do!"
Or, as Pelosi keeps saying, "that's my (ever-evolving, daily-changing) story and I'm stickin' to 'em."
Maybe, nandy-pandy-pants Pelosi, Nancy should use the tried and true response from a way-back-when classmate when asked by the professor to respond to a question germane to his lecture which the professor had to ask him twice...the classless-mates response, "I don't know, I was asleep!"
Three Dog Night, "Liar!" dumbdedumbdumb "Liar, liar!"
We are in such good hands with the Democrats and the Matrix in charge. Democrats, the good hands rulers.
/sarcimus suma cum laudimus
Idiots to left of me, idiots to the right of me...here I am stuck in the middle again...just another idiot...in the middle.

257 mattm  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:29:11am

Has she ever not been a lying POS?

258 redstateredneck  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:29:48am

re: #257 mattm

Has she ever not been a lying POS?

Not to my knowledge.

259 Miss Molly  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:37:16am

I thought Nancy looked very scared during all that press interview as well as afraid of what question might come up next. She has always been a very nasty piece of work so no one should be suprised that she lies about everything. Even though Obama has said "Nancy was a rock" for the Dems or somethng like that even he might have to do something about her. Too late though -- what country will want to trust us very much anymore with those two in power.

260 jorline  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:50:56am

Maytag Nancy is stuck on the spin cycle.

261 ibmkeyboard  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:54:24am

Nanny its not nice to call the CIA liars.

You might wind up in an Israeli detention center

262 Code Red 21  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:54:55am
Youtube Video

I think this is appropriate for Nancy, the Liar, Pelosi.

263 CantonJim  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:57:34am

Pelosi: Transcripts will prove that the person at the briefing was actually my goateed 'Evil twin'

Pelosi: Brain fleas misled me into trash-talking the CIA

Pelosi: I was physically present at the briefing, but my soul was on a mission from my Spirit Guide and did not personally witness the proceedings

Pelosi: This whole thing is a distraction cooked up by the Lizard People who have infiltrated the CIA

Pelosi: I thought it was just a rehearsal before the real meeting

264 C2W?  Thu, May 14, 2009 11:59:36am

Not the brightest bulb in the package is she..... calling out the CIA can only get you more grief Nancy. I'm thinking all the NSA and CIA intercepts on her & her hubby's phone and like that.

265 Rancher  Thu, May 14, 2009 12:11:23pm

re: #264 C2W?

Not the brightest bulb in the package is she..... calling out the CIA can only get you more grief Nancy. I'm thinking all the NSA and CIA intercepts on her & her hubby's phone and like that.


She would like nothing more than to cry that she has been spied on and use that to further castrate the Agency, although no Dems called foul when Hillary had all those files and Hannity and others had the IRS all into their stuff.

266 Yashmak  Thu, May 14, 2009 12:13:31pm

re: #255 Spartacus50

By her own admission, she was outwitted by George W. Bush and his complicit CIA.

She and Barbara Boxer could combine their mental prowess and still be outwitted by your average 5th grader. Sad part is, Boxer is even worse, and makes Pelosi look positively intellectual by comparison.

Anyone from California who doesn't have a heavily vested interest in liberalism has known this for years.

267 Yashmak  Thu, May 14, 2009 12:14:20pm

re: #259 Miss Molly

I thought Nancy looked very scared during all that press interview

That's just how she looks. . . botox does that, I gather. :)

268 katemaclaren  Thu, May 14, 2009 12:57:26pm

re: #30 quickjustice

The CIA often has been incompetent and disloyal (witness the Valerie Plame debacle), but at Washington political infighting, they remain ninja masters.

I wouldn't want to be in Pelosi's position right now. Obama, Emanuel, and Hoyer would love to replace Pelosi with Hoyer, giving the White House complete control over the House of Representatives.

I agree with you 100%. Pelosi had better watch her back--and that would be easy since she's two-faced!

269 katemaclaren  Thu, May 14, 2009 12:59:15pm

re: #266 Yashmak

Barbara Boxer is delusional--and seems truly dumb. I'm not using an ad hominem statement here--just an observational remark. Isn't she related to Bill Clinton or Hillary?

270 sngnsgt  Thu, May 14, 2009 1:13:53pm

Open foot, insert mouth. Pelosi screwed up big time and now she's lying to try to save her political life. The cwybawy weft isn't happwie abwout this one. Pelosi isn't even a good liar.

271 MTF  Thu, May 14, 2009 1:26:27pm

re: #255 Spartacus50

Oh snap!

She's digging a deep political hole, and soon it'll be just the right size to bury her.

272 Noam Chumpski  Thu, May 14, 2009 1:58:27pm

Nancy may have gone too far this time.

Meaning, I don't think the whole world of corruption and intimidation that she lords over can save her from the CIA "leaking" her out of office.

273 John Neverbend  Thu, May 14, 2009 2:06:11pm

re: #270 sngnsgt

Open foot, insert mouth. Pelosi screwed up big time and now she's lying to try to save her political life. The cwybawy weft isn't happwie abwout this one. Pelosi isn't even a good liar.

Are the "cwybawy weft" affiliated to the Welsh nationalists?

274 LesLein  Thu, May 14, 2009 2:12:35pm

Her credibility is such that if Pelosi said the world is round I'd keep an eye on the horizon when I drive.

275 voluble  Thu, May 14, 2009 2:26:24pm

Well, considering it is coming from a lady who doesn't even know what a fossil fuel is, it is not altogether inconceivable that she just doesn't remember those briefings... or the newspaper reports which have come out repeatedly over the last few years detailing what was covered in them... or who her aides were that briefed her... or where she parked her car... or... well you get the picture.

People like Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Carter, Kerry, Frank, Dodd, Kennedy, Gore, Boxer and their ilk can only survive in politics where competence only gets in the way of doing the really, really big things. How can Pelosi run the health care system, the energy industry and regulate every minute of every day for every citizen if she is constantly having to remember things and be consistent from one day to the next?

We are in the very best of hands... are we not?

276 Tats66  Thu, May 14, 2009 2:59:54pm

Two possibilities:
1: pelosi is a lying piece of garbage and is unfit to be speaker

2: Pelosi is clueless, and just stupid enough to sit through a briefing not quite understanding what was said and gullible enough to be "misled"...and is unfit to be speaker....

277 LC LaWedgie  Thu, May 14, 2009 3:02:09pm

Vote Pelosi/Streisand 2012 -- Nan can't remember it and Babs can't spell it.

/seared

278 rumcrook  Thu, May 14, 2009 3:07:17pm

what this proves is when you fire up the vengeance and retribution machine like the left has started to do on the notion of whether and if anyone should be held accountable (ie war crimes, criminal trials ect) for waterboarding and harsh tactics..... ......there are allways unintended consequences.

its interesting to see the ramifications of our "political leaders" running the system using third world tactics of total destruction including trying to criminalize the previous group in in charge. the left cant scream war crimes as rhetoric only, without some getting cought up and pulled under the bus themselves.

if nan goes under the bus I think we should take up a collection to have someone play dont cry for me argentina in the background on a boombox.

279 anchors_aweigh  Thu, May 14, 2009 3:14:12pm

re: #248 CEQAttorney

One thing that a lot of people don't get.

The intelligence agencies don't work for the President; they work for the Executive Branch. That is a significant difference. Presidents may come and go, but the Executive Branch is always there.

What this means is that the intelligence agencies have every incentive to not lie. By lying to make one President happy, the agents may jeopardize their career when the next President is elected (or the current President changes his mind).

And since politicians make it a habit of blaming others for their mistakes, the intelligence communities are not about to go out on a limb.

Unfortunately, Nancy and Obama have been too willing to throw people under the bus for their political gain.

The reason people don't get that

the intelligence agencies don't work for the President

is because it's not true. The President is the Chief Executive, the Commander in Chief, the freaking grand poobah for Christ's sake...please God don't tell me you are an attorney and just said that.

280 AubreyJ  Thu, May 14, 2009 4:27:02pm

Enough is enough…
FIRE NANCY PELOSI,
NOW!
AubreyJ………

281 Keyser Sozay  Thu, May 14, 2009 4:27:58pm

Nancy Pelosi: cleaning up Washington one kitchen at a time. How embarassing must it be to be in her family. I mean really.

282 coscolo  Thu, May 14, 2009 4:53:04pm

Re: #21
Democrats are like Weebles - they wobble but they don't fall
down. There's still that dude serving in Congress who had ill-gotten
money stashed in his freezer.

Dems may be like Weebles, but Joseph Cao, first Vietnamese-American Congressman and a Republican, defeated William Jefferson of freezer cash fame last Nov.

Pelosi is a joke, but so are her CA constituents.

283 Mr Spiffy  Thu, May 14, 2009 6:54:20pm

re: #8 JohnAdams

She couldn't sell me air on Pluto.

What does Mickey Mouse's dog have to do with it?

284 far_right  Thu, May 14, 2009 6:55:36pm

Wayne - Ass spichter says what
Nancy - What

You get the idea

285 Mr Spiffy  Thu, May 14, 2009 6:56:22pm

re: #15 turn

Every time she blinks her nose gets a little longer she's been misinformed.

286 Pygmalienation  Thu, May 14, 2009 7:04:54pm

Even if all her furiously spinning and mercurial stories are true, that leaves one to conclude that she is at the very least incompetent in such a position of responsibility. The country and her constituents deserve way better leadership than this.
But of course, it's obvious to any honest person that this is all BDS writ large.

287 Mr Spiffy  Thu, May 14, 2009 7:06:24pm

re: #88 JohnAdams

The site sight of thousands of semis backed up to the Treasury and teams of criminals loading them up with money has almost become part of the landscape by now.

For what it's worth...

288 zoidberg  Thu, May 14, 2009 7:13:05pm

re: #66 MikeAlv77

But wait... there are aliens in Area 51.. I saw them...

//

I eated them! They were delicious!

289 Pygmalienation  Thu, May 14, 2009 9:15:55pm

re: #286 Pygmalienation

pimf
are= were

290 CarlKopp  Fri, May 15, 2009 12:35:54am

Something that has not yet been pointed out is Pelosi's Clintonian weasling of past and present tense (as in "it depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.).

“The only mention of waterboarding at that briefing was that it was not being employed,”

She later states in reply to a question

"... they talked about interrogations that they had done and said, "We want to use enhanced techniques, and we have legal opinions that say that they are OK. We are not using waterboarding." That's the only mention, that they were not using it. And we now know that earlier they were."

Translation: They did tell me that it had been employed in the past, and that they intend to use it in the future, but not that it was presently being employed (i.e., at that very moment)

291 Pupdawg  Fri, May 15, 2009 4:09:00am

re: #11 irongrampa

Since Pelosi doesn't seem to get the first rule about digging holes, I vote we rent her a backhoe.

It would appear she already has one as her plot deepens, thickens and sickens.

292 Mournie  Fri, May 15, 2009 9:57:36am

NASA: Hubble just found Pelosi's integrity 3 million lightyears away on same planet as Biden's commonsense.


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