The astronauts are finished with their repairs of the Hubble Space Telescope, and now we can’t wait to see the images from the powerful new instruments they’ve installed. They’re doing tool inventory and cleanup before ending their final spacewalk; you can watch live at NASA TV.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 18, 2009 11:05:52am |
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:07:46am |
Obama on fox: Israel and USA have "special" relationship? Well if he had to say that, the talks must have really tanked.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:08:53am |
Not deadline for Iran. Full range of actions on Iran "including" SANCTIONS? Including sanctions?
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joncelli Mon, May 18, 2009 11:09:10am |
Awesome. If only there was a way to yoke Hubble to Kepler and find earthlike worlds that much faster...
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albusteve Mon, May 18, 2009 11:09:24am |
re: #6 Nevergiveup
Obama on fox: Israel and USA have "special" relationship? Well if he had to say that, the talks must have really tanked.
the whole deal could have been wrapped up in a ten minute phone call...I fear
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:09:34am |
And still no replacement in sight for the shuttle, let alone on the drawing board. We are so screwed when we cede space to other nations.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:10:04am |
Obama: Iran getting Nukes would be destabilizing? But Trying to get them is just dandy?
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 18, 2009 11:10:12am |
My professor just said that the GWOT has been about as successful as the war on poverty and war on drugs.
Eff you, Professor.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 11:10:13am |
re: #6 Nevergiveup
Obama on fox: Israel and USA have "special" relationship? Well if he had to say that, the talks must have really tanked.
They just couldn't come to an agreement:
Obama wants "peace in our time"
Netanyahu wants Israel to survive.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:10:35am |
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zombie Mon, May 18, 2009 11:10:47am |
Thanks for not embedding that NASA video into the LGF page, Charles, and instead just linking to it. It was freezing the heck out of my computer the last few times. Not sure why!
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albusteve Mon, May 18, 2009 11:10:55am |
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:11:04am |
Israel has clear obligation to stop settlements. hum and the Arabs?
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Shug Mon, May 18, 2009 11:11:31am |
re: #15 TheMatrix31
My professor just said that the GWOT has been about as successful as the war on poverty and war on drugs.
Eff you, Professor.
tell him that surrender is better than war.
you'll get an A
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 11:11:57am |
re: #15 TheMatrix31
My professor just said that the GWOT has been about as successful as the war on poverty and war on drugs.
Eff you, Professor.
Let's see, people are still poor, probably not much of a difference from when the "war" was declared; drugs are available, again, probably not much of a difference; while there is still terrorism, it has declined. No 3000 person attacks in almost 8 years.
Hmmmm....
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ilzito guacamolito Mon, May 18, 2009 11:12:13am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 11:12:31am |
re: #20 Nevergiveup
Israel has clear obligation to stop settlements. hum and the Arabs?
Have an obligation to keep selling us oil.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:12:41am |
If I hear "Special Relationship" one more time, i am gonna upchuck.
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brookly red Mon, May 18, 2009 11:12:47am |
re: #10 albusteve
the whole deal could have been wrapped up in a ten minute phone call...I fear
/to Beijing.
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:12:49am |
re: #1 rightside
Did they recover the lost toolbag?
By the looks of this map, I'd have to say no.
I'd say the problem is a lack of volunteers who are willing to try and stop a tool bag that's traveling 16,524 mph.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 18, 2009 11:12:52am |
re: #23 Kosh's Shadow
Let's see, people are still poor, probably not much of a difference from when the "war" was declared; drugs are available, again, probably not much of a difference; while there is still terrorism, it has declined. No 3000 person attacks in almost 8 years.
Hmmmm....
I bet I'm outnumbered 150 to 1 in this stupid classroom.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 11:12:59am |
re: #22 Nevergiveup
Bibi is seating funny. I wonder why?
Trying to get Obama's unclenched fist out of his a**?
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albusteve Mon, May 18, 2009 11:13:39am |
re: #30 gmsc
By the looks of this map, I'd have to say no.
I'd say the problem is a lack of volunteers who are willing to try and stop a tool bag that's traveling 16,524 mph.
the Nolan Ryan Tool Bag
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Shug Mon, May 18, 2009 11:13:51am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:14:01am |
re: #23 Kosh's Shadow
Let's see, people are still poor, probably not much of a difference from when the "war" was declared; drugs are available, again, probably not much of a difference; while there is still terrorism, it has declined. No 3000 person attacks in almost 8 years.
Hmmmm....
And two Islamic countries now are no longer being run by thugs, but slowly crawling towards democracy.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:14:03am |
I think this meeting was a disaster from the video I am seeing.
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Tumulus11 Mon, May 18, 2009 11:14:11am |
'Space Shuttle Hubble Mission Wrapping Up'
. They still haven't found any transitional fossils out there.
// Young earth creationist.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:14:41am |
Bibi is blabbering and Obama looks like he is ready to strangle him.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 18, 2009 11:14:49am |
Suddenly my computer is playing nice with microsoft media player- it hasn't been working for months. I couldn't watch the gaza rooster, or any nasa stuff, but for some reason, today it's working.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 18, 2009 11:15:11am |
re: #36 FurryOldGuyJeans
And two Islamic countries now are no longer being run by thugs, but slowly crawling towards democracy.
No no no! It was an epic failure!
///prof
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:15:31am |
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:16:02am |
Bibi: Obama is a true friend of Israel.
He must have said that 5 times. Keep saying and maybe put on red shoes and tap them 3 times?
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 11:16:03am |
I just hope they don't have Heide Stefanyshyn-Piper up there assigned to tool inventory. Gawd, what a f-up losing that tool bag was. btw, I found it interesting that on the last service mission to Hubble Nasa strapped a rocket on the thing and when the service life is up they plan to bring it down in the Pacific ocean.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:16:25am |
re: #42 Ward Cleaver
Biden?
/toolbag
Biden is just a tool, the entire administration is the bag trying to contain the man's gaffes.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:16:50am |
re: #15 TheMatrix31
My professor just said that the GWOT has been about as successful as the war on poverty and war on drugs.
Eff you, Professor.
He's thankful the WoD hasn't succeeded; otherwise, he wouldn't be able to get any weed.
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Three Hundred Mon, May 18, 2009 11:17:28am |
But the repairs were only partially successfull with respect to the main camera: "..engineers were unable to revive the camera's high-resolution channel.." "The high-resolution channel was used for smaller field of view observations, as well as studying faint objects around bright stars."
[Link: www.space.com...]
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 11:17:32am |
re: #1 rightside
ha, my first thought was about the tool bag too. It's still adrift.
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Idle Drifter Mon, May 18, 2009 11:18:34am |
re: #11 FurryOldGuyJeans
And still no replacement in sight for the shuttle, let alone on the drawing board. We are so screwed when we cede space to other nations.
Which is why I'm for private companies getting into the space race. It would open new avenues to producing better space craft through competition and open new industry in this country. Which it is already already happening.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:18:35am |
re: #30 gmsc
By the looks of this map, I'd have to say no.
I'd say the problem is a lack of volunteers who are willing to try and stop a tool bag that's traveling 16,524 mph.
It has such a cute icon.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:19:06am |
Obama wants to see progress with Iran by end of year. He thinks by end of year He will have good sense of Iran's intentions? Hey Bub, I know NOW!
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Idle Drifter Mon, May 18, 2009 11:19:10am |
re: #35 Shug
I think for another 5 or so they said
I wouldn't be surprised if it lasted more than that.
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:19:13am |
re: #49 turn
ha, my first thought was about the tool bag too. It's still adrift.
...and about to head over Souh America.
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avanti Mon, May 18, 2009 11:19:21am |
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, May 18, 2009 11:20:02am |
re: #5 Nevergiveup
But what kinda MPG does the Hubble get?
2.8 billion miles travelled for the HST... 12 billion watts of power in a shuttle launch, according to the internuts. I'm not sure how that computes to MPG. The (considerable) launch energy of STS-31 would have to be divided by the energy output from burning a gallon of gas.
I could do all the math but I'm lazy and would probably screw it up. I'll leave the math to somebody with a better head for physics and chemistry.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:20:07am |
Obama doesn't understand why his out stretched hand may be interpreted as weakness? G-D help us.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:20:11am |
re: #50 Idle Drifter
Which is why I'm for private companies getting into the space race. It would open new avenues to producing better space craft through competition and open new industry in this country. Which it is already already happening.
I am all for private competition, but we also have nations that seem intent on militarizing space.
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albusteve Mon, May 18, 2009 11:20:19am |
re: #50 Idle Drifter
Which is why I'm for private companies getting into the space race. It would open new avenues to producing better space craft through competition and open new industry in this country. Which it is already already happening.
New Mexico already has a Space Port!...we rock
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:20:30am |
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alegrias Mon, May 18, 2009 11:21:03am |
re: #15 TheMatrix31
My professor just said that the GWOT has been about as successful as the war on poverty and war on drugs.
Eff you, Professor.
* * * *
Sorry you have to hear opinions from professors who clearly approved Saddam's kind of dictatorship and Taliban rule of Afghanistan, as the Clinton Administration did. Gassing Kurdish civilians with biological weapons, shredding people in machines, blowing up Buddhas in Bamiyan, and burqa-ing girls kept out of schools.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:21:10am |
re: #54 gmsc
...and about to head over Souh America.
Quick, somebody throw up a rock!
/some kick ass tools, man!
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:21:19am |
Not talking to Iran hasn't worked? Hum, what does Obama think the EU has been doing?
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Joan Not of Arc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:21:23am |
That would freak me out a little to work outside a space shuttle and let's not forget HAL 2000 (as someone pointed out).
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:22:05am |
re: #62 alegrias
* * * *
Sorry you have to hear opinions from professors who clearly approved Saddam's kind of dictatorship and Taliban rule of Afghanistan, as the Clinton Administration did. Gassing Kurdish civilians with biological weapons, shredding people in machines, blowing up Buddhas in Bamiyan, and burqa-ing girls kept out of schools.
And uncovered girls being allowed to burn to death in RSA.
Spit!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, May 18, 2009 11:22:22am |
re: #44 turn
I just hope they don't have Heide Stefanyshyn-Piper up there assigned to tool inventory. Gawd, what a f-up losing that tool bag was. btw, I found it interesting that on the last service mission to Hubble Nasa strapped a rocket on the thing and when the service life is up they plan to bring it down in the Pacific ocean.
It's not a rocket, it's a fixture for attaching something - they don't know what - onto the HST. They could just as well dock Orion on it, if Orion ever gets built.
Into sunset over Africa now. I wish I had upgraded my cable package for this mission. There's only a year left in the program, I might go ahead and pay the extra $10 a month.
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alegrias Mon, May 18, 2009 11:22:29am |
re: #43 Nevergiveup
Bibi: Obama is a true friend of Israel.
He must have said that 5 times. Keep saying and maybe put on red shoes and tap them 3 times?
* * * *
How hard to keep Bibi's dignity, having to beg for Israel, pressing his hands nervously.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:22:33am |
re: #66 Ward Cleaver
And uncovered girls being allowed to burn to death in RSA.
Spit!
Whoops, KSA!
/not sun city
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 18, 2009 11:22:57am |
re: #62 alegrias
* * * *
Sorry you have to hear opinions from professors who clearly approved Saddam's kind of dictatorship and Taliban rule of Afghanistan, as the Clinton Administration did. Gassing Kurdish civilians with biological weapons, shredding people in machines, blowing up Buddhas in Bamiyan, and burqa-ing girls kept out of schools.
I'm sorry too. This shit is a waste of money.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:23:10am |
re: #67 zombie
That looks like a hell of a project. A satellite the size of a tennis count, orbiting literally a million miles away! If they manage to pull it off, it will be the most amazing achievement in a long time!
Since the election of 0bama?
/ducking
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 11:23:24am |
re: #54 gmsc
...and about to head over Souh America.
wow, that's an awesome site. Thanks. I mean I don't intend on making a hobby out of tracking space junk or anything but the information available on the net these days is truly mind boggling.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:23:54am |
Bibi just said how fortunate Israel is to have a President Obama. Next it's on his knees for a BJ I guess?
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alegrias Mon, May 18, 2009 11:24:09am |
re: #52 Nevergiveup
Obama wants to see progress with Iran by end of year. He thinks by end of year He will have good sense of Iran's intentions? Hey Bub, I know NOW!
* * * * *
Pres. Obama said everyone knows Iran is having elections, and "you don't get much business done during elections" when you're lying your ass off!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:24:19am |
re: #72 Ward Cleaver
Since the election of 0bama?
/ducking
You have well drunk of that kool-aid, me lad. ;)
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, May 18, 2009 11:24:29am |
re: #74 Nevergiveup
Bibi just said how fortunate Israel is to have a President Obama. Next it's on his knees for a BJ I guess?
He can get in line behind the reporters.
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:24:37am |
The astronauts did record some commentary while they were in orbit:
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DaddyG Mon, May 18, 2009 11:25:05am |
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:25:06am |
re: #74 Nevergiveup
Bibi just said how fortunate Israel is to have a President Obama. Next it's on his knees for a BJ I guess?
Did 0bama mention kickbacks?
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Orangutan Mon, May 18, 2009 11:25:14am |
re: #30 gmsc
By the looks of this map, I'd have to say no.
I'd say the problem is a lack of volunteers who are willing to try and stop a tool bag that's traveling 16,524 mph.
Sounds a bit like Nascar, but the toolbags are moving slower and there are many more of them.
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alegrias Mon, May 18, 2009 11:26:02am |
re: #71 TheMatrix31
I'm sorry too. This shit is a waste of money.
* * * *
Can you protest to the academic people, the registrar, your department chair, or better yet, get a transfer to another professor? It's abusive to pay for propaganda instead of academic instruction you need for your credits!
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avanti Mon, May 18, 2009 11:26:15am |
re: #67 zombie
That looks like a hell of a project. A satellite the size of a tennis count, orbiting literally a million miles away! If they manage to pull it off, it will be the most amazing achievement in a long time!
The problem science is having now, is we are getting data faster then we can study it and the Webb telescope will just look back further in time then we have ever done.
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jhrhv Mon, May 18, 2009 11:26:23am |
Thanks NASA. You made this a good week for America, Science and all free people everywhere.
God speed and a safe journey home Atlantis.
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:26:29am |
re: #81 Orangutan
Sounds a bit like Nascar, but the toolbags are moving slower and there are many more of them.
...and the toolbag can make both right AND left turns.
;)
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DaddyG Mon, May 18, 2009 11:27:24am |
re: #40 Sharmuta
Suddenly my computer is playing nice with microsoft media player- it hasn't been working for months. I couldn't watch the gaza rooster, or any nasa stuff, but for some reason, today it's working.
Pedal faster!
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lawhawk Mon, May 18, 2009 11:27:39am |
re: #56 Pawn of the Oppressor
You're also not counting the periodic boosts that the Shuttle delivers when it carries out the servicing missions.
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lawhawk Mon, May 18, 2009 11:28:26am |
re: #67 zombie
But it's not a perfect replacement to the Hubble since the Webb works in the infrared, while the Hubble examines in the visible and UV spectrums. It's complementary, but not a complete replacement.
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 11:28:30am |
re: #55 avanti
dang, couldn't find it with a quick google but there is something significant about the orbit of Webb I saw on a special over the weekend. It's at some gravitational balance point or something.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:28:34am |
"On the other hand" What is Obama auditioning for a role in "Fiddler on The Roof"?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:28:41am |
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:28:44am |
re: #88 Nevergiveup
Humanitarian condition in Gaza?
I don't believe this shuttle mission dealt with that.
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Orangutan Mon, May 18, 2009 11:28:58am |
re: #85 gmsc
...and the toolbag can make both right AND left turns.
;)
You apparently have toolbag 2.0 .
If they want to watch racing, why people would choose to watch NASCAR over Formula 1 escapes me.
/both turns
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alegrias Mon, May 18, 2009 11:29:14am |
Pres. Obama" "Israel has to do all kinds of difficult things. Abide by Annapolis....
Poor Palis can't get clean water....
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 18, 2009 11:29:32am |
re: #82 alegrias
* * * *
Can you protest to the academic people, the registrar, your department chair, or better yet, get a transfer to another professor? It's abusive to pay for propaganda instead of academic instruction you need for your credits!
They're all the same here at UCLA, my friend. He's a pretty good professor actually, just says a lot of stupid crap.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:29:35am |
re: #84 jhrhv
Thanks NASA. You made this a good week for America, Science and all free people everywhere.
God speed and a safe journey home Atlantis.
I wish I could say they saved 2009 like Apollo 8 saved 1968, but we have so much year left.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:29:57am |
Movement by Arab States we haven't seen before? Like WHAT exactly?
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:30:28am |
Obama: Northern Ireland was as difficult as Middle East?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:30:37am |
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avanti Mon, May 18, 2009 11:30:50am |
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alegrias Mon, May 18, 2009 11:30:53am |
Pres. Obama: "I am so glad to have George Mitchell here....
(Lebanese-descended George Mitchell did such wonders during the Clinton years...
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:30:56am |
re: #91 Nevergiveup
"On the other hand" What is Obama auditioning for a role in "Fiddler on The Roof"?
"Organizer, organizer, your policy's a mess!
Fed-owned companies, free-spending Congress! . . ."
/OK, the meter need work, but still . . .
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:31:30am |
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alegrias Mon, May 18, 2009 11:31:40am |
re: #96 TheMatrix31
They're all the same here at UCLA, my friend. He's a pretty good professor actually, just says a lot of stupid crap.
* * * * *
Best of luck then!
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 11:31:43am |
re: #68 Pawn of the Oppressor
Pawn, it was on the last mission to Hubble. They equipped it back then with a rocket motor to bring it back to earth when the Hubble's service life is up. I saw that on a special about the Hubble on tv this weekend (at least I think I did?) Naw, couldn't have dreamed that one.
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Idle Drifter Mon, May 18, 2009 11:31:48am |
re: #58 FurryOldGuyJeans
I am all for private competition, but we also have nations that seem intent on militarizing space.
I agree with you that weaponizing of space is not a question of if but when. I'd expect Russia and China to install kinetic weapons in space to counter US Carrier Battle Groups with the US developing better energy weapons and missiles to counter them. Hypersonic spacecraft both bombers and fighters between the three nations are most certainly in the works or on at least on paper.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 18, 2009 11:32:18am |
Wow, lol. He just talked about some of America's problems in the Middle East being human rights violations.
Yeah, those guys over there don't commit ANY human violations?
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LGoPs Mon, May 18, 2009 11:32:21am |
The astronauts are finished with their repairs of the Hubble Space Telescope,
One of their primary tasks was to peel off the sticker that says ''Remove Before Launch''.......
/ *stole that from Dave Barry*
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:32:29am |
re: #94 Orangutan
You apparently have toolbag 2.0 .
If they want to watch racing, why people would choose to watch NASCAR over Formula 1 escapes me.
/both turns
Formulas are too complicated?
;)
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 11:32:56am |
re: #95 alegrias
Pres. Obama" "Israel has to do all kinds of difficult things. Abide by Annapolis....
Poor Palis can't get clean water....
So what are the Palis supposed to abide by?
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ilzito guacamolito Mon, May 18, 2009 11:33:24am |
re: #43 Nevergiveup
Bibi: Obama is a true friend of Israel.
He must have said that 5 times. Keep saying and maybe put on red shoes and tap them 3 times?
With friends like these...
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MrSilverDragon Mon, May 18, 2009 11:33:47am |
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:33:49am |
Obama: There is linkage between Israel-Palestinians and Iran? WHAT A FUCKING MORON. Not only to think it but to say ti out loud!
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 11:33:50am |
re: #98 Nevergiveup
Movement by Arab States we haven't seen before? Like WHAT exactly?
They're willing to recognize two Palestinian states instead of one.
Actually, that should be 3, including Jordan.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:33:59am |
re: #95 alegrias
Pres. Obama" "Israel has to do all kinds of difficult things. Abide by Annapolis....
Poor Palis can't get clean water....
Not unless it can be filtered through a Kassam missile.
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 11:34:02am |
re: #101 avanti
Just wanted to say L2 for that link avanti. That was it ...
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alegrias Mon, May 18, 2009 11:34:12am |
OMG, Pres. Obama says making "peace with the Palestinians" is almost a precondition to dealing with Iran--like that's the stumbling block for the last 65 million years.
Fact check my ears, please.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:34:31am |
re: #109 TheMatrix31
Wow, lol. He just talked about some of America's problems in the Middle East being human rights violations.
Yeah, those guys over there don't commit ANY human violations?
Oh, so this is another "Blame America" world tour?
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alegrias Mon, May 18, 2009 11:35:14am |
re: #112 Kosh's Shadow
So what are the Palis supposed to abide by?
* * * *
(Arafat said "jihad, jihad, jihad" was their plan, which apparently still stands. Shhhh)
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:35:28am |
Obama and that blithering idiot Bibi are setting back progress in the middle east by 20 years.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:35:51am |
"The James Webb Space Telescope"? What, does it have a toupee'?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:36:34am |
re: #113 ilzito guacamolito
With friends like these...
Obama is not concerned about making friends, only prostelyzing for more worshipers of his magnificence.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:36:40am |
re: #122 Nevergiveup
Obama and that blithering idiot Bibi are setting back progress in the middle east by 20 years.
A meeting of two corrupt politicians.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 18, 2009 11:37:10am |
re: #120 FurryOldGuyJeans
Oh, so this is another "Blame America" world tour?
I think South Park got it wrong with their "Blame Canada" song. Apparently, it's "Blame America!", special guest singer Barack Obama.
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LGoPs Mon, May 18, 2009 11:37:18am |
re: #123 Ward Cleaver
"The James Webb Space Telescope"? What, does it have a toupee'?
I thought it was the Web Hubbel Space Telescope..........thought he was in jail.
/
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:38:10am |
re: #124 buzzsawmonkey
Barack Obama is the kindest, warmest, most lovable human being I have ever met in my life.
o_O
Call 9-1-1! We have a raving mad man here!
/ is it sarcasm, or is it memorex?
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 11:38:13am |
re: #118 turn
That was a fricking interesting read. The guy was a genius
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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avanti Mon, May 18, 2009 11:38:51am |
re: #119 alegrias
OMG, Pres. Obama says making "peace with the Palestinians" is almost a precondition to dealing with Iran--like that's the stumbling block for the last 65 million years.
Fact check my ears, please.
I did not hear that. He just said the Iranian nukes are a issue that must be dealt with or without a peace plan, but if there was peace, it would just increase the international communities leverage.
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MrSilverDragon Mon, May 18, 2009 11:39:09am |
I have to say that I'm so proud of the astronauts that risked life and limb to repair the telescope, as I can only imagine how beautiful the pictures are going to be once we receive them. Nice job, folks, and can't wait to cheer y'all on when you safely return home.
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:40:32am |
OT: Praise Chees-us!
Jesus seen in cheese snack (Video – 1:30)
Dan and Sara Bell of Dallas found a Jesus-shaped Cheeto while on a road trip last week. KTXA reports.
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 11:41:01am |
re: #130 turn
Basically this is the balance point where Webb can still take one year to rotate around earth yet be as far away from earth as possible. Wow
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ilzito guacamolito Mon, May 18, 2009 11:41:12am |
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LGoPs Mon, May 18, 2009 11:41:47am |
re: #134 gmsc
OT: Praise Chees-us!
Jesus seen in cheese snack (Video – 1:30)
I heard Kraft Foods was relocating to Israel. They're going to call the company Cheeses of Nazareth....
/
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 11:42:12am |
Is it possible to weld or solder in space? Not on the ship--out in space. Would the lack of oxygen prevent it?
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avanti Mon, May 18, 2009 11:42:19am |
re: #135 turn
Basically this is the balance point where Webb can still take one year to rotate around earth yet be as far away from earth as possible. Wow
I'm sure you or me could do the math for that over our lunch hour. :)
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ilzito guacamolito Mon, May 18, 2009 11:42:36am |
re: #134 gmsc
OT: Praise Chees-us!
Jesus seen in cheese snack (Video – 1:30)
How much will that sell for on e-bay?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 11:42:46am |
I'd rather listen to this than an Oscar acception speech.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:43:02am |
re: #131 avanti
I did not hear that. He just said the Iranian nukes are a issue that must be dealt with or without a peace plan, but if there was peace, it would just increase the international communities leverage.
You mis heard. he sure did say it
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:43:19am |
re: #137 buzzsawmonkey
It's a quote--from memory, and probably mildly inaccurate--from The Manchurian Candidate.
But I figured you knew that.
I vaguely remember the original, won't see the new one even with a gun to my head.
Maybe it is time to watch the movie again.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:44:38am |
re: #139 EmmmieG
Is it possible to weld or solder in space? Not on the ship--out in space. Would the lack of oxygen prevent it?
Use the same technique as done here on earth, pressurized oxygen tank.
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 11:44:43am |
re: #139 EmmmieG
Is it possible to weld or solder in space? Not on the ship--out in space. Would the lack of oxygen prevent it?
Good question - I wondered that about guns, too.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 11:45:07am |
re: #146 FurryOldGuyJeans
Use the same technique as done here on earth, pressurized oxygen tank.
I'll remember that on my next spacewalk *grin*
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 11:45:18am |
re: #140 avanti
I'm sure you or me could do the math for that over our lunch hour. :)
No prob, and with a couple of six packs downed just to get warmed up. Seriously, we could devote the rest of our lifetime to study and never come up with a single contribution that would equal one single thing that man did.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:45:23am |
re: #147 Dianna
Good question - I wondered that about guns, too.
The Russians used to carry guns in space--maybe still do?
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ilzito guacamolito Mon, May 18, 2009 11:45:25am |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 11:45:40am |
re: #147 Dianna
Good question - I wondered that about guns, too.
If it did work, you'd be blown backwards, wouldn't you?
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MrSilverDragon Mon, May 18, 2009 11:45:47am |
re: #134 gmsc
OT: Praise Chees-us!
Jesus seen in cheese snack (Video – 1:30)
Hey, those would've been a huge hit at the last supper! "This is my body, given for you..."
/I'm going to Hell, aren't I?
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 11:46:22am |
re: #150 Nevergiveup
The Russians used to carry guns in space--maybe still do?
Well, if so, then that answers my question.
But I always wondered. Modern firearms can fire under water, at need, though it's not recommended.
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gearhead Mon, May 18, 2009 11:46:25am |
Duct tape...check,
coat hangers...check,
Ronco Pocket Fisherman...check,
Simon Cowell...check.
All tools present and accounted for!
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 11:46:41am |
re: #152 EmmmieG
If it did work, you'd be blown backwards, wouldn't you?
Unless you were anchored, I'd expect so.
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IslandLibertarian Mon, May 18, 2009 11:46:41am |
Imagine the leaps in exploration and research that could be achieved if we weren't hampered by having to deal with Islamic-Jihadists, lunatic Iranians, Taliban, Al Qeda,
Palestinians, ACORN, ACLU...........go ahead, add your favorite wacko group.........
I'm still proud to be an American even if my president still feels the need to blame Her for the problems of the world.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 18, 2009 11:46:43am |
He just connected the neo-con movement with Ronald Reagan. Really?
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brookly red Mon, May 18, 2009 11:46:47am |
re: #147 Dianna
Good question - I wondered that about guns, too.
yes, the oxygen is in the charge...
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 11:46:52am |
re: #138 LGoPs
I heard Kraft Foods was relocating to Israel. They're going to call the company Cheeses of Nazareth....
/
Blessed are the cheesemakers.
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 11:47:16am |
re: #153 MrSilverDragon
Hey, those would've been a huge hit at the last supper! "This is my body, given for you..."
/I'm going to Hell, aren't I?
You and me, both, because I laughed at that.
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doppelganglander Mon, May 18, 2009 11:47:30am |
re: #145 FurryOldGuyJeans
I vaguely remember the original, won't see the new one even with a gun to my head.
Maybe it is time to watch the movie again.
It's always a good time to watch the original.
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avanti Mon, May 18, 2009 11:47:34am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:47:47am |
re: #147 Dianna
Good question - I wondered that about guns, too.
More promise is in maglev acceleration projectile weapons.
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:47:50am |
re: #153 MrSilverDragon
Hey, those would've been a huge hit at the last supper! "This is my body, given for you..."
/I'm going to Hell, aren't I?
Only if you can tell me what type of wine goes with Cheetos.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 11:47:54am |
re: #139 EmmmieG
Is it possible to weld or solder in space? Not on the ship--out in space. Would the lack of oxygen prevent it?
Actually, no oxygen would be better, as it can oxidize the metal being welded. That is one big problem with welding aluminum; there needs to be a noble gas blanket to make it work.
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LGoPs Mon, May 18, 2009 11:48:00am |
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 11:48:28am |
re: #159 brookly red
yes, the oxygen is in the charge...
That's been my thinking; but I always question my assumptions.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:49:09am |
re: #154 Dianna
Well, if so, then that answers my question.
But I always wondered. Modern firearms can fire under water, at need, though it's not recommended.
Well they carry guns because they once landed way of course in forrest and almost got eaten by wild animals.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 11:49:10am |
What do you suppose it would cost to put your company's logo on the space suit?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:49:20am |
re: #134 gmsc
OT: Praise Chees-us!
Jesus seen in cheese snack (Video – 1:30)
They live in Preston Hollow, the cha-ching neighborhood that's home to W and Laura.
/lizardlanche coming
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 11:49:24am |
re: #152 EmmmieG
If it did work, you'd be blown backwards, wouldn't you?
Yes, but it would go off; gunpowder carries its own oxidizer. All explosives need to, because oxygen cannot diffuse into the explosion fast enough. (That is a technical error in Firefly).
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 11:49:33am |
re: #165 FurryOldGuyJeans
More promise is in maglev acceleration projectile weapons.
I like that thought.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:49:35am |
re: #164 buzzsawmonkey
I saw the new one; it sucked and blowed.
The original Manchurian Candidate is fantastic. Even when you can see it is absurd, it still sweeps you along.
Subtlety is not in Hollywood's DNA when it comes to political themes.
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MrSilverDragon Mon, May 18, 2009 11:49:42am |
re: #166 gmsc
Only if you can tell me what type of wine goes with Cheetos.
My guess, some kind of Rosé...
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:50:04am |
re: #174 Ward Cleaver
They live in Preston Hollow, the cha-ching neighborhood that's home to W and Laura.
/lizardlanche coming
Which, according to the link above, is somewhere near the land of "Page Not Found".
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 11:50:22am |
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 11:50:27am |
re: #159 brookly red
yes, the oxygen is in the charge...
and it does look like you can solder and weld in space. I thought so because neither need oxygen and it would probably turn out better in space because there is no environment to contaminate.
[Link: www.newton.dep.anl.gov...]
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 11:50:31am |
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:50:45am |
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debutaunt Mon, May 18, 2009 11:50:52am |
re: #124 buzzsawmonkey
Barack Obama is the kindest, warmest, most lovable human being I have ever met in my life.
Let's play cards!
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Cato the Elder Mon, May 18, 2009 11:51:56am |
And to think, Obama wants to take all this away and give it to the Iranians.
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MrSilverDragon Mon, May 18, 2009 11:52:13am |
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:52:20am |
re: #180 gmsc
Which, according to the link above, is somewhere near the land of "Page Not Found".
Hold on.
Sorry, didn't have the complete link (it's loooooong). Here it is.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:52:30am |
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vxbush Mon, May 18, 2009 11:52:49am |
re: #160 Kosh's Shadow
Blessed are the cheesemakers.
As the CEO said, "I am the whey, the truth, and the life....."
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:52:55am |
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 11:53:02am |
re: #164 buzzsawmonkey
I saw the new one; it sucked and blowed.
The original Manchurian Candidate is fantastic. Even when you can see it is absurd, it still sweeps you along.
Lemme guess – in the new one, the candidate is turned Manchurian due to global warming?
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 18, 2009 11:53:44am |
re: #186 buzzsawmonkey
The original Manchurian Candidate was done when there were still literate people in Hollywood.
Now they're freebasing hacks.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:54:08am |
re: #186 buzzsawmonkey
The original Manchurian Candidate was done when there were still literate people in Hollywood.
Literacy still doesn't mean they won't beat you over the head with a political theme or viewpoint.
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avanti Mon, May 18, 2009 11:54:40am |
Obama speaks, markets soars to over 200 up. (I know that's bull shit, but I accidentally left my spin machine on)
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J.S. Mon, May 18, 2009 11:55:21am |
re: #37 Nevergiveup
I don't know...near the end (during the question period), Netanyahu was able to assert that the Iranian issues vs the Pali issues are not causally linked (that, btw, is what British Tony Blair's "talking point" has been for the past half decade -- and that s.o.b continues to reiterate that utter lie)...Netanyahu emphasized that the two issues (not linked in terms of policy) but can be pursued in parallel -- that they operate on parallel tracks, not "causal" tracks.
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MrSilverDragon Mon, May 18, 2009 11:55:46am |
re: #196 Ward Cleaver
Now they're freebasing hacks.
Wow, how do they get the hacks into the pipe?
/on a (bad) roll today.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:55:51am |
re: #195 gmsc
Lemme guess – in the new one, the candidate is turned Manchurian due to global warming?
The new one, from the summaries I have read, is brain-washed by an evil corporation named Manchurian Corp. Talk about totally throwing out the premise and substituting political hackism.
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pingjockey Mon, May 18, 2009 11:56:09am |
re: #198 avanti
S'alright. Had to trouble shoot my washer. It was stuck on spin. I think it was getting its cues from the msm!. (Timer was whacked)
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 11:56:15am |
re: #199 J.S.
I don't know...near the end (during the question period), Netanyahu was able to assert that the Iranian issues vs the Pali issues are not causally linked (that, btw, is what British Tony Blair's "talking point" has been for the past half decade -- and that s.o.b continues to reiterate that utter lie)...Netanyahu emphasized that the two issues (not linked in terms of policy) but can be pursued in parallel -- that they operate on parallel tracks, not "causal" tracks.
Yeah, but OBAMA said they are linked in no uncertain terms. It really doesn't matter what Bibi said.
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doppelganglander Mon, May 18, 2009 11:56:36am |
re: #197 FurryOldGuyJeans
Literacy still doesn't mean they won't beat you over the head with a political theme or viewpoint.
The original isn't like that at all. It's got character development, intrigue, and suspense. Plus, it's anti-Communist.
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 18, 2009 11:57:47am |
re: #198 avanti
Looks like home builders have a case of hopenchange....
Home builders more hopeful that sales will return
Encouraged by low interest rates and the re-emergence of first-time buyers, U.S. home builders' spirits improved again in May, the National Association of Home Builders said Monday, bringing its sentiment index to the highest level since the collapse of Lehman Bros. sparked a global financial panic in September.
It's hard to imagine there are still people marching around with "end the bailouts" signs.
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J.S. Mon, May 18, 2009 11:58:18am |
re: #203 Nevergiveup
Yeah. (I'd have to read the transcript -- Obama, in answering that reporter, mumbled something about "yeah, they're linked, but run in the opposite direction" -- not quoting here, but something to that effect...I'm not certain what Obama meant by suggesting the link runs in the opposite direction (?))
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debutaunt Mon, May 18, 2009 11:58:31am |
re: #204 doppelganglander
The original isn't like that at all. It's got character development, intrigue, and suspense. Plus, it's anti-Communist.
Back then, brainwashing was a fairly new idea.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, May 18, 2009 11:58:48am |
re: #198 avanti
Obama speaks, markets soars to over 200 up. (I know that's bull shit, but I accidentally left my spin machine on)
BWAWHAHAHA! LOL!
That's why you are still here, and many can get along with you, Avanti. You do have a sense of humor.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 11:59:10am |
re: #204 doppelganglander
The original isn't like that at all. It's got character development, intrigue, and suspense. Plus, it's anti-Communist.
At the time it was released it was considered very unsubtle and propagandish.
Still doesn't detract from being a very good story.
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LGoPs Mon, May 18, 2009 11:59:53am |
re: #205 Killgore Trout
Looks like home builders have a case of hopenchange....
Home builders more hopeful that sales will return
It's hard to imagine there are still people marching around with "end the bailouts" signs.
Yeah. They must all be insane.
/
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 18, 2009 12:01:19pm |
re: #212 LGoPs
I think it's pretty nutty.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 12:01:29pm |
re: #207 J.S.
Yeah. (I'd have to read the transcript -- Obama, in answering that reporter, mumbled something about "yeah, they're linked, but run in the opposite direction" -- not quoting here, but something to that effect...I'm not certain what Obama meant by suggesting the link runs in the opposite direction (?))
He said that solving the Iranian Nuclear problem might not lead to solving the Israeli-Palestinian problems but that the OTHER direction is definitely linked. That Solving the Israeli-Palestinian issue WILL make it easier to deal with IRAN. Or words to that effect. It was crystal clear.
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pingjockey Mon, May 18, 2009 12:01:37pm |
re: #214 Killgore Trout
If this turns into a trend, will the ones admin stop all the stimulus(porkulus) spending proposed for the next 3 years?
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HelloDare Mon, May 18, 2009 12:02:04pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 12:02:13pm |
re: #206 buzzsawmonkey
If it's done well, I don't mind. Some humor; some grace; some elegance in dialog and plot, cover a multitude of political sins.
I haven't seen decent framing of shots, or heard decent dialog, in a current film in years. And the number of casual, glaring anachronisms whenever they attempt anything period is just sad.
I actually like the in-your-face directness the movie displays. Gave the actors some well deserved time to chew the scenery.
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LGoPs Mon, May 18, 2009 12:03:12pm |
re: #215 Killgore Trout
I think it's pretty nutty.
I'll wait for more data. I need more than a 'sentiment index' from the Home Builders association to make me think that the housing meltdown is fixed.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 12:03:20pm |
re: #207 J.S.
Yeah. (I'd have to read the transcript -- Obama, in answering that reporter, mumbled something about "yeah, they're linked, but run in the opposite direction" -- not quoting here, but something to that effect...I'm not certain what Obama meant by suggesting the link runs in the opposite direction (?))
Oh, and most importantly, PRESIDENTS had better measure their words and be careful what they say. What they might think or say in private is one things, but "mumbling" asinine bullshit in public is another thing. Something an amateur might do. Yeah I know he is.
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 18, 2009 12:03:55pm |
re: #217 pingjockey
I don't think they'll stop the stimulus spending unless there's some insanely miraculous instant recovery. They might cut back on it some if things are going really well. We have a long way to go and there will be a lot of ups and downs.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 12:04:44pm |
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 12:04:57pm |
re: #221 LGoPs
I'll wait for more data. I need more than a 'sentiment index' from the Home Builders association to make me think that the housing meltdown is fixed.
You need to be more like Killgore – HOPE! CHANGE! That's all we need! Screw results! They're just facts, and you can use facts to prove anything even remotely true!
////////
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pingjockey Mon, May 18, 2009 12:05:12pm |
re: #224 Killgore Trout
That money is just going to be pissed away and do no one, except some unions any good.
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 12:05:17pm |
re: #221 LGoPs
I'll wait for more data. I need more than a 'sentiment index' from the Home Builders association to make me think that the housing meltdown is fixed.
Agreed.
Houses are moving, but that's because bank-owned properties are being steeply discounted. The banks don't want them on their hands, so buyers are picking them up for ridiculously low prices.
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 18, 2009 12:05:39pm |
Remember when Obama was going to secretly use TARP to nationalize the banking industry and create a Marxist utopia?
State Street launches $1.5 bln stock offering
Proceeds to be used to pay back TARP funds to U.S. Treasury
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 12:06:35pm |
re: #230 Killgore Trout
But will the Treasury accept the payment?
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 18, 2009 12:06:50pm |
re: #227 pingjockey
We'll have to wait and see how much effect it helps. I think it could have been more effective used but we'll see what happens.
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J.S. Mon, May 18, 2009 12:07:52pm |
re: #216 Nevergiveup
Well, at least Obama hasn't made it into a causal link (as does that other bastard). Also, with respect to Obama, there was another moment during the question and answer period, when I was thinking -- omg, how naive can you get? -- it was shockingly naive of Obama...(again, I'd need the transcript to find the item...) (many years ago I read Ze'ev Schiff's 1999 "Israeli preconditions for Palestinian statehood" -- and, you know, nothing's changed...)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 12:07:57pm |
Dear Friends and Family:
We hope you'll forgive us for skipping the photos of the kids this year, but we thought we'd send you this picture of Daddy in space...
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 12:08:48pm |
re: #238 EmmmieG
Of course, with some photoshop and some ignorant relatives, anyone could use that photo...
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 18, 2009 12:08:55pm |
re: #234 Dianna
I don't think they've had confirmation but I'd guess they'll take it.
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badger1970 Mon, May 18, 2009 12:09:06pm |
re: #139 EmmmieG
Duck tape and gorilla glue with some bailing wire for good measure.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 12:09:48pm |
re: #242 badger1970
Duck tape and gorilla glue with some bailing wire for good measure.
Are you saying we have rednecks in space?
(Is that your birth year on your nic?)
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 12:10:53pm |
re: #237 J.S.
Well, at least Obama hasn't made it into a causal link (as does that other bastard). Also, with respect to Obama, there was another moment during the question and answer period, when I was thinking -- omg, how naive can you get? -- it was shockingly naive of Obama...(again, I'd need the transcript to find the item...) (many years ago I read Ze'ev Schiff's 1999 "Israeli preconditions for Palestinian statehood" -- and, you know, nothing's changed...)
When he starts going off extemporely like that, he says stupid things, because he has no historical perspective and really doe snot know what he is taking about.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 12:11:34pm |
re: #244 Nevergiveup
When he starts going off extemporely like that, he says stupid things, because he has no historical perspective and really doe snot know what he is taking about.
Nice typo.
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gmsc Mon, May 18, 2009 12:12:49pm |
re: #246 taxfreekiller
It could be kt is using reverse psychology to get more attention for his secret hero Ron Paul.
if any one were to check, kt most likely has used Ron Paul's name more than any poster on the net......
...just about as much as kb, though. I understand from redc1c4 that...
;)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, May 18, 2009 12:13:55pm |
re: #248 gmsc
...just about as much as kb, though. I understand from redc1c4 that...
;)
Haven't you heard? One is the sock of the other.
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Nevergiveup Mon, May 18, 2009 12:13:58pm |
re: #245 Kosh's Shadow
Nice typo.
Kinda appropriate I think? I just get so worked up over idiocy in the Middle East.
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pingjockey Mon, May 18, 2009 12:15:55pm |
re: #250 FurryOldGuyJeans
what? Who? I'm waaay behind here!
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 12:15:57pm |
Hey all you beer drinkers, if you ever get stranded on a big boat and run out keep this in mind ..
[Link: southernfriedscience.com...]
I never thought of using cereal to brew beer in a pinch, it's made from grain so it makes sense.
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Kragar Mon, May 18, 2009 12:16:06pm |
re: #218 HelloDare
For the I think I'm going to barf file:
Obviously someone is out of their Vulcan mind.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 12:16:14pm |
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pingjockey Mon, May 18, 2009 12:17:04pm |
re: #256 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
"you green blooded inhuman".....
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badger1970 Mon, May 18, 2009 12:18:17pm |
I have a similar picture but it has my dad putting a PBR bottle in my mouth.
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 12:18:39pm |
re: #259 UFO TOFU
I saw that, doesn't sound very appealing.
Yeah, but hey in a pinch? The idea of using a coffee maker was cool. Checking out some of the other links to Glenn's post just now.
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 12:19:31pm |
re: #259 UFO TOFU
I saw that, doesn't sound very appealing.
Way back when, some friends and I did a project - combining history and science - and followed the recipe for Syrian beer (one of the oldest pieces of writing in the world).
Assuming we did it right, beer-making has come a very long way since the Syrians of old.
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UFO TOFU Mon, May 18, 2009 12:19:47pm |
re: #261 turn
Did you see this:[Link: southernfriedscience.com...]
The second video is something else.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 12:20:08pm |
re: #256 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Obviously someone is out of their Vulcan mind.
Obama is not a Vulcan. He is quite illogical.
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avanti Mon, May 18, 2009 12:20:25pm |
re: #205 Killgore Trout
Looks like home builders have a case of hopenchange....
Home builders more hopeful that sales will returnIt's hard to imagine there are still people marching around with "end the bailouts" signs.
Since my spin machine is still running, I'll turn the knob to the right." Home sales would have turned around faster if BHO had done nothing, he just slowed down the turn around."
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, May 18, 2009 12:20:46pm |
re: #260 badger1970
I have a similar picture but it has my dad putting a PBR bottle in my mouth.
I have to go and pack for a family trip, but one last question: Did your mother let him live?
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 18, 2009 12:20:48pm |
re: #263 Dianna
Way back when, some friends and I did a project - combining history and science - and followed the recipe for Syrian beer (one of the oldest pieces of writing in the world).
Assuming we did it right, beer-making has come a very long way since the Syrians of old.
We tried to make mead in college; ended up with mold.
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UFO TOFU Mon, May 18, 2009 12:21:22pm |
re: #263 Dianna
Assuming we did it right, beer-making has come a very long way since the Syrians of old.
It has, and you can easily make some very good beer at home.
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avanti Mon, May 18, 2009 12:21:54pm |
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 12:21:57pm |
re: #268 Kosh's Shadow
We tried to make mead in college; ended up with mold.
That happens.
I've had mead that tastes like mold, too.
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 18, 2009 12:22:30pm |
re: #246 taxfreekiller
You're the one attending his rallies.
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 12:22:43pm |
re: #269 UFO TOFU
It has, and you can easily make some very good beer at home.
That's true. But we were very young, and wanted to get out of finals. So...
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 12:23:22pm |
re: #263 Dianna
Way back when, some friends and I did a project - combining history and science - and followed the recipe for Syrian beer (one of the oldest pieces of writing in the world).
Assuming we did it right, beer-making has come a very long way since the Syrians of old.
I didn't know that Diana, heh one of the oldest writings was on how to make beer.
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Dianna Mon, May 18, 2009 12:25:22pm |
re: #274 turn
I didn't know that Diana, heh one of the oldest writings was on how to make beer.
Yeah - I always told that to Baptists who tried to insist that people didn't ferment things back in Jesus' time.
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turn Mon, May 18, 2009 12:27:21pm |
re: #264 UFO TOFU
Did you see this:[Link: southernfriedscience.com...]
The second video is something else.
No I didn't, wow. That's one big octopus, those creatures are probably very smart too.
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Land Shark Mon, May 18, 2009 12:27:54pm |
re: #269 UFO TOFU
It has, and you can easily make some very good beer at home.
Right you are! When I used to work at Cigarette Racing Team many moons ago building power boats, one of my co-workers made his own beer. He got quite at it. He used to make what he called his version of Budweiser, it was far superior to the commercial brand. Thankfully he had a spare bedroom with mattresses so anyone who indulged too much could sleep it off. I took advantage of it more than once. Ahhh, to be young, single and carefree...
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JustABill Mon, May 18, 2009 12:28:59pm |
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JustABill Mon, May 18, 2009 12:31:36pm |
Has anyone made homemade mead? The only time I had mead, it was homemade. It was extreemely dry. I am wondering if the friends of mine that made it got it right? I was expecting it to be sweet, given the honey...
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UFO TOFU Mon, May 18, 2009 12:38:04pm |
re: #278 Land Shark
Nice! A friend of mine made a batch using champagne yeast once. Very different with the tiny bubbles.
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BLBfootballs Mon, May 18, 2009 12:43:25pm |
I guess I'm not the only person totally enthralled by these live videos!
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BLBfootballs Mon, May 18, 2009 12:44:37pm |
Hey, wait a sec... why does the robotic arm say "Canada"?!
Alas, the bitter fruits of North American Integration...
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Steve Mon, May 18, 2009 12:57:29pm |
If Obama and the democrats had designed the Hubble woul we be seeing things like this:
This is actually really nice art.
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redstateredneck Mon, May 18, 2009 12:57:31pm |
re: #243 EmmmieG
Are you saying we have rednecks in space?
You got a problem with rednecks in space?
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avanti Mon, May 18, 2009 1:10:50pm |
re: #283 BLBfootballs
Hey, wait a sec... why does the robotic arm say "Canada"?!
Alas, the bitter fruits of North American Integration...
Because Canada designed, built and paid for the arm, they get the "Canada" decal.
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Scorch Mon, May 18, 2009 4:45:25pm |
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