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1 Sharmuta  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:07:16pm

I don't see the picture, only the link url

2 Sharmuta  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:08:45pm

I think maybe this is it

[Link: www.zooborns.com...]

3 WindHorse  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:09:11pm

do you know how to pony, like bony-maroni....?

do you know how to twist? Well, it goes like this......

joey-joey-joey-joey.....

4 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:09:29pm

That thing is so ugly, it's cute.

5 Sharmuta  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:09:53pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

I think maybe this is it

[Link: www.zooborns.com...]

Cute

6 Gus  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:10:02pm

Looks like a baby donkey-rabbit-deer. ;)

7 Syrah  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:10:03pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

I don't see the picture, only the link url

Pop the link into the browser address bar. Charles will have the HTML fixed soon but don't wait.

8 Sharmuta  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:10:55pm

re: #7 Syrah

I already guessed it.

9 Sharmuta  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:11:52pm

AWWWW! Look an the baby kitties!

[Link: www.zooborns.com...]

10 Syrah  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:12:32pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

I figured you would.

11 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:12:39pm

Poor little guy. I wonder if they can put him back in the pouch?

12 NY Nana  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:12:47pm

Aaaaawww, they are irresistible.

I am off to sleep.

G'nite, all. Sweet dreams!

13 Sharmuta  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:12:59pm

More kitties!

[Link: www.zooborns.com...]

14 Syrah  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:13:20pm

re: #9 Sharmuta

AWWWW! Look an the baby kitties!

[Link: www.zooborns.com...]

You may just have to LOL Cat those.

15 Sharmuta  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:13:51pm

Shocking!

[Link: www.zooborns.com...]

16 jcm  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:14:19pm

re: #14 Syrah

You may just have to LOL Cat those.

Iz cute now.

When Iz big, you lunch!

;-)

17 BatGuano  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:14:53pm

re: #3 WindHorse

Land of a thousand dances.

18 Sharmuta  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:15:43pm

Good night, All.

19 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:16:18pm

He/She is awfully cute.

20 DistantThunder  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:16:18pm

Life is so precious. We are anxiously and excitedly anticipating the arrival of our granddaughter in early July. We hear that she is already 4lbs. We pray there will NOT be an early ejection.

21 BatGuano  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:16:35pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

That is an ugly marsupial. No offense to marsupials in general.

22 Gus  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:16:40pm

Found an older baby kangaroo at Flickr. Kind of cute.

23 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:16:52pm

re: #11 Floral Giraffe

Poor little guy. I wonder if they can put him back in the pouch?

From Zooborns:

It was impossible to determine which of the female's had lost her joey, without causing stress to the animals.
24 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:16:53pm

re: #16 jcm

'I can haz hairless munkee?'

25 kynna  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:18:16pm

I was just looking at these pics last night with my daughter and I thought about linking this one. He's just the oddest little thing. So ugly he's cute. :D

26 Killian Bundy  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:18:46pm

Posted on the Muslim riot in Greece and apparently picked up a "fan" almost immediately on my first ping back ever.

Pakistan Politics Journal

/strange, can't quite figure out whether it's friend or foe

27 jcm  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:20:25pm

Not far from my house.

WILD ANIMALS!

Another black bear sighting in Shoreline

Shortly after 5 a.m. this morning, a Shoreline man said he came face to face with the bear in the backyard of his home in the 18000 block of Densmore Ave. North.
28 Killian Bundy  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:24:39pm

re: #26 Killian Bundy

Posted on the Muslim riot in Greece and apparently picked up a "fan" almost immediately on my first ping back ever.

Pakistan Politics Journal

/strange, can't quite figure out whether it's friend or foe

/leaning more toward foe after looking around some more

29 Old Engineer  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:25:33pm

Obviously not designed by an Engineer. But God does a passable job too. Anyway, its mother probably loves it like crazy.
Old Engineer

30 BignJames  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:26:18pm

And when they're grown, they'll grab you around the neck with their forelegs and kick you in the belly and rip your guts out with their huge claws.

Aren't they cute?

31 BatGuano  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:26:46pm

That Joey is breathtaking (Ref. Seinfeld)

32 Syrah  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:30:22pm

re: #28 Killian Bundy

/leaning more toward foe after looking around some more

It seems an odd comment for him to have left. Do you think he was trying to provoke you?

33 Killian Bundy  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:32:12pm

re: #32 Syrah

It seems an odd comment for him to have left. Do you think he was trying to provoke you?

/I don't care, that was the whole point of the post, books is books, they have no intrinsic holiness

34 Gus  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:37:19pm
35 Syrah  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:39:18pm

re: #33 Killian Bundy

To us, books are just books. To them, some books are holy relics. If he believes that you think about the bible like he thinks about the Qur'an, he may have thought he could provoke you with that kind of a comment. A kind of a test to see if you mean what you say, or out of real ignorance of how to most of us, "books is just books."

He may also just be an innocent confusing both himself and us by a language (English) that he only has a rough familiarity with.

36 Killian Bundy  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:46:36pm

re: #35 Syrah

To us, books are just books. To them, some books are holy relics. If he believes that you think about the bible like he thinks about the Qur'an, he may have thought he could provoke you with that kind of a comment. A kind of a test to see if you mean what you say, or out of real ignorance of how to most of us, "books is just books."

He may also just be an innocent confusing both himself and us by a language (English) that he only has a rough familiarity with.

It looks to be pretty good at English. I'm comfortable with my point.

/I approved the comment and ping back, whatever, it was just, as you say, odd

37 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:53:09pm

weet dreams all!

38 Fenway_Nation  Fri, May 22, 2009 11:59:14pm

re: #37 ggt

Wheat dreams, ggt.

39 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:00:01am

Today in History, May 23rd:

Highlights of this day in history: Top Nazi official Heinrich Himmler commits suicide; Israel captures fugitive Nazi Adolf Eichmann; Bank robbers Bonnie and Clyde killed; Industrialist John D. Rockefeller dies; Golf legend Sam Snead dies.

Other notable May 23rd events include:

1788 – South Carolina ratifies the Constitution as the 8th American state.

1863 – Organization of the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Battle Creek, Michigan.

1911 – The New York Public Library is dedicated.

1929 – The first talking cartoon of Mickey Mouse, "The Karnival Kid", is released.

1958 – Explorer 1 ceases transmission.

1995 – The first version of the Java programming language was released.

2002 – The "55 parties" clause of the Kyoto protocol is reached after its ratification by Iceland.

2004 – Part of Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport's Terminal 2E collapses, killing four people and injuring three others.

40 Syrah  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:02:37am

re: #36 Killian Bundy

I have been poking around his blog. His Ignorant West post is interesting. He seems to have been pro-Musharraf. No love for Obama. Not sure where he gets his understanding of American politics. He seems to have a comic book grasp of things.

41 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:03:24am

re: #39 gmsc

May 23rd, 1945

63 years 11 months 31 days ago

42 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:04:44am
43 jorline  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:04:47am

Was looking for a late night/early morning fruit cup before the ambian kicks in.

44 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:05:53am

re: #41 Gus 802

May 23rd, 1945

63 years 11 months 31 days ago

In other words, 64 years ago?

45 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:05:58am

re: #43 jorline

Was looking for a late night/early morning fruit cup before the ambian kicks in.

N,N-dimethyl-2-[6-methyl-2-(4-methylphenyl)imidazo[3,2-a]pyridin-3-yl]acetamide

molecular weight %P% 307.4 g/mol
phase %P% solid
melting point %P% 196 deg C
isoelectric point %P% 6.2

46 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:06:19am

re: #44 gmsc

In other words, 64 years ago?

Let me check.

//

47 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:07:24am

re: #45 Gus 802

N,N-dimethyl-2-[6-methyl-2-(4-methylphenyl)imidazo [3,2-a]pyridin-3-yl]acetamide

molecular weight %P% 307.4 g/mol
phase %P% solid
melting point %P% 196 deg C
isoelectric point %P% 6.2

Careful! You didn't attribute that to Wolfram Alpha! They're fanatical about claiming copyright to all the information they provide!

48 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:08:13am

re: #40 Syrah

I have been poking around his blog. His Ignorant West post is interesting. He seems to have been pro-Musharraf. No love for Obama. Not sure where he gets his understanding of American politics. He seems to have a comic book grasp of things.

/like I said, it's definitely strange but it does seem to know Pakistan like it lives there, maybe

49 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:08:41am

re: #47 gmsc

Careful! You didn't attribute that to Wolfram Alpha! They're fanatical about claiming copyright to all the information they provide!

Cripes. How long are they going to last with that policy?

50 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:12:02am

re: #40 Syrah

I have been poking around his blog. His Ignorant West post is interesting. He seems to have been pro-Musharraf. No love for Obama. Not sure where he gets his understanding of American politics. He seems to have a comic book grasp of things.

/maybe ask Charles to delete that post and use TinyURL, ixnay on it tracing, until it's vetted one way or another

51 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:12:26am

re: #49 Gus 802

Cripes. How long are they going to last with that policy?

Read the comments – they'll give you a good idea of how long the experts expect them to last.

52 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:12:54am

re: #50 Killian Bundy

/maybe ask Charles to delete that post and use TinyURL, ixnay on it tracing, until it's vetted one way or another

/and delete the #48 quote too

53 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:15:04am

Some sad personal news tonight.

My little dog, Roswell the Atomic Poodle, died peacefully in his sleep sometime last night.

He was 15 years old, born on October 12 1993, and had lived a long and happy life. He had been in good health and fairly active for what is a very advanced age for a dog. Like most poodles, he was amazingly intelligent. For example, he had a distinctive greeting bark for each of my daughters and, among other things, used it to demonstrate that he could tell which one of them I was talking to on the phone.

This is doubly sad because he was my late wife's dog. She did not tell me she was getting him. I did not like small dogs at the time, and was horrified when she brought him home. "300 bucks for a hairball that makes messes on the carpet!" She won the ensuing argument, as usual. I eventually grew to love the little guy. I would swear he knew when she died. He was listless and depressed from the very moment I came home from the hospital. He recovered, just as I did, and he has been devoted to me ever since. Perhaps they are re-united now.

I have put his little body in a safe place, and I will going to the expense of having him buried at a pet cemetery. It is the least I can do for the years of companionship and happiness he has brought us.

54 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:15:41am

Oh, barf . . .

Animatronic Obama Going to Disney World With High-Tech Style

LOS ANGELES — Barack Obama was standing on a riser inside a warehouse here, delivering an inspirational speech about the blessings of freedom, when his left index finger began to twitch uncontrollably, unnerving his aides.

The nation’s 44th president was in obvious distress. At least it looked like him. But with silicone skin and a tangled nest of wires for veins, this Obama was a 21st-century reproduction.

More specifically, it was an audio-animatronic representation of the president, as imagined by the Walt Disney Company, and assembled with the direct involvement of the White House staff — and of Mr. Obama himself. The president supplied not just his measurements, but he also recorded that speech (which was initially drafted by a Disney writer) — and yet another recitation of the oath of office, this one in Disney high-definition sound.

How difficult can this be? Build an outside that looks like 0bama, and an inside that works like a teleprompter – You're done!

Maybe it's going in their new attraction: Pirates of the Somalian!

Ann Althouse's take is quick and succint:

Disney's animatronic Obama: "Young children watch this, and you want them to feel a sense of identification with the president."

Since when are American children expected to identify with the President?

55 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:16:38am

re: #52 Killian Bundy

/and delete the #48 quote too

/and #50

56 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:17:59am

re: #51 gmsc

Read the comments – they'll give you a good idea of how long the experts expect them to last.

I didn't see any. It's fine if it's bits of information or non-commercial use. Plus, they're harvesting information from other sites. And, I'm also saying were I got the information from. So it's free advertising for them. They should send me a check for 27 cents. ;)

57 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:19:30am

re: #54 gmsc

Oh, barf . . .

Animatronic Obama Going to Disney World With High-Tech Style

Thoughts on this:

I guess my Disney stock has finally hit its high. Time to sell.

Animatronic 0bama? What is that? You hit a button and it blames George Bush?

News of the Future: Animatronic 0bama takes control of Disney and gives 55% of the company to the SEIU, ignoring the creditors.

58 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:19:48am

re: #54 gmsc

Oh, barf . . .

Animatronic Obama Going to Disney World With High-Tech Style

Weird. Does it come with a teleprompter?

/TOTUS

59 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:20:33am

re: #58 Gus 802

Weird. Does it come with a teleprompter?

/TOTUS

That's all the insides are! Oh, you mean the animatronic one – I'm not sure.

60 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:22:09am

re: #59 gmsc

That's all the insides are! Oh, you mean the animatronic one – I'm not sure.

Probably not. Funny, I'm still waiting to be impressed by the man. I haven't heard one "great speech" yet. Maybe I need to get my hearing checked.

Or something.

61 Syrah  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:23:26am

re: #55 Killian Bundy

/and #50

An email sent. Though I confess that I don't see the cause for concern. What am I missing?

62 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:25:19am

re: #60 Gus 802

Probably not. Funny, I'm still waiting to be impressed by the man. I haven't heard one "great speech" yet. Maybe I need to get my hearing checked.

Or something.

Guess what he'll be reciting?

But the emotional high point is intended to be the introduction of the Obama figure, who will yet again be heard taking the oath.

Bad news, though. This won't be the one you heard on January 20th:

Mr. Obama recorded this version on March 4 in the White House Map Room — the same room where he retook the oath after a minor flub on Inauguration Day — to accommodate the Disney World theater’s new sound system. At that time, Mr. Obama also read aloud a short speech to be delivered by the figure, one that ultimately passed through the computer of Jon Favreau, a presidential speechwriter.

63 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:25:29am

re: #53 Shiplord Kirel

I have put his little body in a safe place.

I'm very sorry for your loss, I've been there, but Roswell needs to be refrigerated at this point.

/it's Memorial Day weekend but all major cities I know of have rotating vets that staff an emergency clinic 24/7/365, call 'em

64 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:28:05am

re: #61 Syrah

An email sent. Though I confess that I don't see the cause for concern. What am I missing?

/I just, personally, didn't want to post the actual link on LGF because I have little idea what it's all about and didn't want to give it the identifiable LGF referrer traffic

65 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:29:50am

re: #62 gmsc

Confusing. The man hasn't been in office for more than a few months. What has he done besides create a mountain of debt that will take decades to erase? Maybe a few things that were in the right direction. But they're few. Overall I would say there's "nothing to crow about."

/Deficit/GM/Chrysler/CIA/Gitmo/AG Holder

66 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:31:15am

re: #65 Gus 802

Confusing. The man hasn't been in office for more than a few months. What has he done besides create a mountain of debt that will take decades to erase? Maybe a few things that were in the right direction. But they're few. Overall I would say there's "nothing to crow about."

/Deficit/GM/Chrysler/CIA/Gitmo/AG Holder

Actually, it would be a handy thing for Disney to have in their hall of presidents. If another figure breaks down, they animatronic 0bama can blame animatronic George Bush!

67 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:33:45am

re: #66 gmsc

Actually, it would be a handy thing for Disney to have in their hall of presidents. If another figure breaks down, they animatronic 0bama can blame animatronic George Bush!

Bush's fault! Bush create hurricanes and Obama cures cancer. Film @ 11.

I like the way Bush is keeping a low profile. Since Cheney has taken the helm of criticism it's almost become "Cheney's fault."

They've finally given up on Karl Rove. At least it seems that way to me. The moonbats thought he was "pulling strings" up until a few months ago.

68 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:36:13am

re: #66 gmsc

Actually, it would be a handy thing for Disney to have in their hall of presidents. If another figure breaks down, they animatronic 0bama can blame animatronic George Bush!

Here's more with a photo...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

69 Syrah  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:36:45am

re: #64 Killian Bundy

/I just, personally, didn't want to post the actual link on LGF because I have little idea what it's all about and didn't want to give it the identifiable LGF referrer traffic

I had not given those things much thought.

As a window into the mind of a pro-Musharraf Pakistani, I thought his blog was interesting. I think it illustrates how difficult it is to navigate a strait path in that region. If he represents what the more pro-western educated Pakistani thinks of the US and the world, then it is clear that we will have a rough time of it with Pakistan especially during the Obama Administration.

70 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:37:46am

re: #54 gmsc

Oh, barf . . .

Animatronic Obama Going to Disney World With High-Tech Style

re: #68 Gus 802

Here's more with a photo...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Isn't that the same article which I linked?

71 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:37:47am

re: #68 Gus 802

Oops, that's the same link you posted GMSC.

/Doh!

72 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:38:23am

re: #71 Gus 802

Oops, that's the same link you posted GMSC.

/Doh!

You had me wondering there for a second . . .

73 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:39:24am

re: #72 gmsc

You had me wondering there for a second . . .

I often do that myself -- about myself.

/ROBAMA

74 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:45:00am

Here's Robama shaking the hand of Robocop.

Nancy Pelosi is in the background and the dork with the baseball cap is Ken Salazar.

75 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:45:21am

re: #69 Syrah

I had not given those things much thought.

As a window into the mind of a pro-Musharraf Pakistani, I thought his blog was interesting. I think it illustrates how difficult it is to navigate a strait path in that region. If he represents what the more pro-western educated Pakistani thinks of the US and the world, then it is clear that we will have a rough time of it with Pakistan especially during the Obama Administration.

It might be the best insight into rational Pakistan since sliced bread, I just don't know.

/and used TinyURL to try and keep LGF out of it, but you're right, in the grand scheme of things, it's probably not that big a deal, so it looks at it's referrer logs and reads LGF, is that a bad thing?

76 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:45:31am

re: #73 Gus 802

I often do that myself -- about myself.

/ROBAMA

ROBAMA: The only thing guaranteed to suck more than a Roomba!

77 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:46:18am

re: #76 gmsc

ROBAMA: The only thing guaranteed to suck more than a Roomba!

Would that make him a Hoover?

//

78 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:47:00am

re: #74 Gus 802

Here's Robama shaking the hand of Robocop.

Nancy Pelosi is in the background and the dork with the baseball cap is Ken Salazar.

I never noticed how much Peter Weller looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
;)

79 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:48:08am

re: #78 gmsc

I never noticed how much Peter Weller looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
;)

There I go again. I thought... well you figured it out.

80 Fenway_Nation  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:48:32am

re: #54 gmsc

Wow! A shallow, plastic-ey fascsimlie of an American President that's only capable of a few pre-programmed stock responses to any particular situation....

Wait a sec- there's an animotronic 0bama now?

81 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:49:26am

re: #80 Fenway_Nation

Wow! A shallow, plastic-ey fascsimlie of an American President that's only capable of a few pre-programmed stock responses to any particular situation....

Wait a sec- there's an animotronic 0bama now?

When you put it like that, it seems redundant somehow . . .

82 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:52:24am

re: #80 Fenway_Nation

Wow! A shallow, plastic-ey fascsimlie of an American President that's only capable of a few pre-programmed stock responses to any particular situation....

Wait a sec- there's an animotronic 0bama now?

Which came first? The mammalian version or the animatron?

/Robama

83 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:56:06am

Animatronic 0bama: "Actually, this is just my latest incarnation. I've actually been all of history's great acting robots – Acting Unit 2.0, Thespo-Mat, David Duchovny . . ."

84 Syrah  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:56:54am

re: #75 Killian Bundy

It might be the best insight into rational Pakistan since sliced bread, I just don't know.

/and used TinyURL to try and keep LGF out of it, but you're right, in the grand scheme of things, it's probably not that big a deal, so it looks at it's referrer logs and reads LGF, is that a bad thing?

Its probably not a bad thing.

I was thinking that he must have some kind of a flag for blogs and articles that mention Pakistan to have pick up on your article post.

If that is the case, he may well have heard about LGF.

I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, meaning that I think that what we read in the one post that I linked to gives insight into who he is and what he is all about.

I don't think he is exactly what we would call a friend, nor do I think we could call him an enemy. We may have some goals and hopes for the future that are in common, which may be enough to accept him for what he is without feeling unduly threatened by him.

But then again, I expect the future to be very messy so I may be a very poor judge of such things.

85 Syrah  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:59:34am

Goodnight lizards, I will need my 5 hours of sleep. Tomorrow will start too darned early for my tastes.

See you all on Saturday.

86 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 12:59:52am

re: #85 Syrah

Goodnight lizards, I will need my 5 hours of sleep. Tomorrow will start too darned early for my tastes.

See you all on Saturday.

G'Nite, Syrah!

87 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:00:35am

re: #84 Syrah

I was thinking that he must have some kind of a flag for blogs and articles that mention Pakistan to have pick up on your article post.

I never mentioned Pakistan, even in the tags, but It was damn near instantaneous.

/and, as far as I can tell, it's an obscure blog with few comments

88 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:01:14am

President Barack Obama, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif) and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. In the Whitehouse during the announcement of new fuel and emissions standards with "auto industry leaders" in attendance.

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger - governor of a bankrupt state.
Rep. Nancy Pelosi - Representative of the same bankrupt state.
Pres. Barack Obama - President of a bankrupt nation.
General Motors - Bankrupt (trading at less than 2.00)
Auto Industry - Near bankruptcy.

There's something wrong with this picture.

89 SixDegrees  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:05:37am

re: #47 gmsc

Careful! You didn't attribute that to Wolfram Alpha! They're fanatical about claiming copyright to all the information they provide!

Won't be too much of a problem. I've tried it four times now, and it has never worked. Twice it said it couldn't produce a result; the other two times, it crashed my browser.

Not a good first impression. I doubt I'll be back anytime soon.

As far as copyright goes: Wolfram can kiss my ass. There's no way content scraped from the Web is copywriteable; individual pieces of content may already be protected, but the collection of references produced by a search engine, not at all.

90 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:06:57am

re: #88 Gus 802

President Barack Obama, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif) and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. In the Whitehouse during the announcement of new fuel and emissions standards with "auto industry leaders" in attendance.

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger - governor of a bankrupt state.
Rep. Nancy Pelosi - Representative of the same bankrupt state.
Pres. Barack Obama - President of a bankrupt nation.
General Motors - Bankrupt (trading at less than 2.00)
Auto Industry - Near bankruptcy.

There's something wrong with this picture.

I got it! Pelosi's actually a senator, not a representative!
;)

I think the picture is fitting.

I can't help but wonder how many people will still be comfortable watching It's A Wonderful Life this Christmas.

91 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:10:21am

re: #90 gmsc

I got it! Pelosi's actually a senator, not a representative!
;)

I think the picture is fitting.

I can't help but wonder how many people will still be comfortable watching It's A Wonderful Life this Christmas.

If we're able to watch TV after the energy rates go up. This is just the warm-up act. GM closed at 1.43 and they're getting another 4 billion.

92 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:14:48am

re: #91 Gus 802

If we're able to watch TV after the energy rates go up. This is just the warm-up act. GM closed at 1.43 and they're getting another 4 billion.

{ { {shudder} } }

93 theheat  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:17:42am

Has anyone heard of the new animated series from Mike Judge called The Goode Family?

The Goode Family is a new animated series from Mike Judge (King of the Hill, Beavis and Butt-head, Office Space), John Altschuler & Dave Krinsky (King of the Hill, Blades of Glory).

It's a show about a family that's gone green, or at least trying to.

the family that lives by "What Would Al Gore Do?"

Oh, this is going to be a winner.

94 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:17:55am

re: #91 Gus 802

If we're able to watch TV after the energy rates go up. This is just the warm-up act. GM closed at 1.43 and they're getting another 4 billion.

/read all about it, yeah it's a blog pimp, but there's like 20 linkys

95 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:18:26am

re: #91 Gus 802

If we're able to watch TV after the energy rates go up. This is just the warm-up act. GM closed at 1.43 and they're getting another 4 billion.

I try not to think about it too much. When I do I look at it this way. It's almost June. June, July, and August leaves us 3 three months to "get cracking" in this country. Those are some of the most productive month for construction, infrastructure improvements, etc. Nothing is happening. Business is slow and construction is way down. When September comes everything starts to slow down even more. That means this Fall and Winter are going to be far worse than last year for my finances.

96 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:20:20am

re: #94 Killian Bundy

/read all about it, yeah it's a blog pimp, but there's like 20 linkys

Thanks.

Yikes...

General Motors Corp. said Friday that it has borrowed an additional $4 billion from the Treasury Department, meaning the automaker has now accepted $19.4 billion in loans from the U.S. government.

GM started taking government money in December and said it intended to borrow $2.6 billion more by June 1 and an additional $9 billion after that. But in a regulatory filing Friday, GM said it needed $1.4 billion sooner than originally forecast.

I'm starting to think I'm Carl Sagan after reading these numbers. Billions and billions.

97 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:20:53am

re: #93 theheat

Has anyone heard of the new animated series from Mike Judge called The Goode Family?

The Goode Family is a new animated series from Mike Judge (King of the Hill, Beavis and Butt-head, Office Space), John Altschuler & Dave Krinsky (King of the Hill, Blades of Glory).

It's a show about a family that's gone green, or at least trying to.

the family that lives by "What Would Al Gore Do?"

Oh, this is going to be a winner.

Yet another robot democrat news story . . .

98 Fierce Guppy  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:22:52am

Have you ever seen something so evil that it causes you fantasize about kicking out the villain's teeth or something worse. I react that way when I see a grave injustice done to innocent people, especially to kiddies. Here's an ABC news item that I initially saw on New Zealand television earlier today. It's about charlatans in the Democratic Republic of Congo making a bundle of ill-gotten money by masquerading as Christian priests who go around accusing the little kiddies of superstitious crazed parents of being witches, and about the physical and emotional pain that ensues.

Child Witches

The director of a special commission charged with protecting children says it is illegal to accuse children of witchcraft unless there's proof. The interviewer responds with "But.. but that seems to indicate that there could ever be physical proof of witchcraft." and is told that witchcraft is apart of their traditional beliefs. The director is not ~just~ a fat-arsed do-nothing state official. He actually believes the crap himself. Yes, he believes a child is possibly a witch if he has black eyes, big eyes, or a bulging tummy...

Fat, useless voodoo-sodden piece of shit brick in the wall.

The hurt and the anguish seems never to leave that country. Anyway, I just wanted to post this as a way of letting off steam. See you later.

Tony.

99 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:23:02am

re: #97 gmsc

It is probably going to be good satire. Mike Judge is no liberal.

100 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:23:16am

re: #97 gmsc

Yet another robot democrat news story . . .

/Xeriscape

101 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:25:01am

re: #99 BatGuano

It is probably going to be good satire. Mike Judge is no liberal.

I was referring to Al Gore. What? He's not a robot?

102 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:25:33am

re: #95 Gus 802

I try not to think about it too much. When I do I look at it this way. It's almost June. June, July, and August leaves us 3 three months to "get cracking" in this country. Those are some of the most productive month for construction, infrastructure improvements, etc. Nothing is happening. Business is slow and construction is way down. When September comes everything starts to slow down even more. That means this Fall and Winter are going to be far worse than last year for my finances.

/1.3 trillion dollar "stimulus" (with current projected interest), millions actually spent so far, watch the bull [expletive deleted]

103 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:26:42am

Boomhauer

104 SixDegrees  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:27:10am

re: #93 theheat

Has anyone heard of the new animated series from Mike Judge called The Goode Family?

Oh, this is going to be a winner.

I'll give it a look. Judge has been mercilessly ripping environmentalists and other liberals of all stripes on "King of the Hill" for years. His take on this topic has potential to be hilarious.

105 theheat  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:28:18am

re: #97 gmsc

It is from the Beavis & Butthead people. I wouldn't expect it to be too PC.

106 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:28:29am

re: #101 gmsc

Real robots shun that fecal remnant. :)

107 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:31:10am

re: #105 theheat

It is from the Beavis & Butthead people. I wouldn't expect it to be too PC.

We agree. See my #99.

108 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:32:01am

re: #105 theheat

It is from the Beavis & Butthead people. I wouldn't expect it to be too PC.

King of the Hill used to be one my favorite animated series. Great characters. Hank Hill always with his words of wisdom. Boomhauer...

109 schnapp  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:36:08am

I just read a great novel by Anne Provoost called "The Falling". It's about the lure of extremism in Europe - specifically Belgium (where the Vlaams Belang party is from).
Eerily relivant. . . I should recommend it to Charles.

110 theheat  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:39:29am

re: #108 Gus 802

They have some short clips from the link I posted, and it appears one of the characters is "that guy in bicycle shorts" I've seen a million times in public places. They're always passive-aggressive little know-it-all snots, the kind that like to wag their finger, then hid behind a nervous strangely feminine laugh. The work hard/play hard yuppie types, that are about as deep and interesting as a sheet of white paper.

One ply paper, of course.

111 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:41:52am

re: #99 BatGuano

It is probably going to be good satire. Mike Judge is no liberal.

re: #105 theheat

It is from the Beavis & Butthead people. I wouldn't expect it to be too PC.

re: #107 BatGuano

We agree. See my #99.

Wait . . . how did people get the idea that I thought this was going to be a bad story.

I made only one brief comment on the story, which was originally posted by theheat:

re: #97 gmsc

Yet another robot democrat news story . . .

This was simply a way of referring to the Al Gore reference and as a call back to the Animatronic 0bama story.

All of the sudden, people are trying to tell me "Oh, gmsc, it won't be a bad show. Mike Judge is funny! He's no liberal!"

When did I say otherwise?!?

112 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:42:19am

re: #110 theheat

They have some short clips from the link I posted, and it appears one of the characters is "that guy in bicycle shorts" I've seen a million times in public places. They're always passive-aggressive little know-it-all snots, the kind that like to wag their finger, then hid behind a nervous strangely feminine laugh. The work hard/play hard yuppie types, that are about as deep and interesting as a sheet of white paper.

One ply paper, of course.

I know the type.

113 Gus  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:42:45am

Off to sleep. Later folks!

114 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:43:55am

re: #113 Gus 802

Off to sleep. Later folks!

G'Nite, Gus!

115 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:46:59am

Goodnight, Gus.

116 theheat  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:47:35am

re: #112 Gus 802

They're kissing cousins of the yuppie Harley riders. The ones whose chaps look like they just came off the rack, and don't even have creases at the knees yet.

117 ladycatnip  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:50:04am

For anyone else with insomnia, read about the One creating his own little WH Pravda - Obama television.

Why am I not surprised.

118 theheat  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:51:00am

re: #111 gmsc

This was simply a way of referring to the Al Gore reference and as a call back to the Animatronic 0bama story.

Leave it to me, so many nuances whoosh over my head. I hadn't dove into the robot story yet.

I did see the photo of Arnold and Obama, though. I see Pelosi's eyes are closed in that one. Must have taken mid-blink.

119 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:53:37am

re: #118 theheat

Leave it to me, so many nuances whoosh over my head. I hadn't dove into the robot story yet.

I did see the photo of Arnold and Obama, though. I see Pelosi's eyes are closed in that one. Must have taken mid-blink.

Catching Pelosi in mid-blink isn't a tough feat:

120 theheat  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:54:15am

re: #117 ladycatnip

Sweet. Their own in-house reality show production crew, complete with logo. Even the Osbournes didn't get to call the shots to that degree.

121 Fenway_Nation  Sat, May 23, 2009 1:55:29am

re: #108 Gus 802

Compare how Texans/flyover state types are treated in King of the Hill versus Family Guy or American Dad. McFarlane unambiguously hates southerners and it's reflected in his condescending humor. If anything, King of the Hill is more of an affectionate tweak towards Texans.

Also some curiously moving moments involving gun-nut, conspiracy-theorist and bargain-bin exterminator Dale Gribble and his belatedly faithful wife, Nancy.

122 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

123 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:01:24am

re: #122 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

Yummy!

Hopefully, it's not animatronic sugar.
;)

124 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:02:18am

re: #111 gmsc

I'm sorry gmsc. I misunderstood the reference. Also, I wasn't rebuking you. I would never do that.

125 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:03:23am

re: #122 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thank you littleoldlady!

126 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:03:28am

re: #124 BatGuano

I'm sorry gmsc. I misunderstood the reference. Also, I wasn't rebuking you. I would never do that.

OK – I've been getting confused a lot on this thread tonight.

Maybe it's just a fruitcup deficiency.
;)

127 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:04:03am

re: #123 gmsc

gmsc! :-)

Oh great. Our President is a sci-fi movie nightmare.

/or just a plain old, everyday, run-of-the-mill nightmare.
//you choose...

128 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:04:28am

BatGuano! :-)

129 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:05:38am

Tuna cup?

/can haz?

130 schnapp  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:07:47am

re: #127 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

Oh great. Our President is a sci-fi movie nightmare.

/or just a plain old, everyday, run-of-the-mill nightmare.
//you choose...

and now . . . he has facebook

131 theheat  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:07:53am

re: #122 littleoldlady

Thank you, don't mind if I do. Fruit cup and punch.

132 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:08:19am

re: #130 schnapp

and now . . . he has facebook

The real one? Or the animatronic one?
;)

133 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:08:53am

Killian! :-)

Best cat I ever had was a cantaloupe freak. Would turn over the trash can to get to the rinds.

/is that how you spell cantalope?
//spell check may not be my friend...

134 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:10:06am

theheat! :-)

135 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:10:56am

re: #133 littleoldlady

Killian! :-)

Best cat I ever had was a cantaloupe freak. Would turn over the trash can to get to the rinds.

/is that how you spell cantalope?
//spell check may not be my friend...

My in-laws said we can't elope. we eloped anyway.

136 theheat  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:11:36am

re: #133 littleoldlady

Ding, ding, ding - you spelled cantaloupe correctly.

I had a pet bird that used to love the rinds, too. She also ate watermelon and any other kind of melon rinds. Would pick out the juicy parts and fling them everywhere. Bad, bad, messy bird.

137 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:12:29am

re: #133 littleoldlady

Killian! :-)

Best cat I ever had was a cantaloupe freak. Would turn over the trash can to get to the rinds.

/is that how you spell cantalope?
//spell check may not be my friend...

/ieSpell

138 schnapp  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:13:51am

re: #132 gmsc

The real one? Or the animatronic one?
;)

I'd say it's genuine. :p

139 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:14:08am

You like cats?

[Link: www.mycathatesyou.com...]

140 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:14:54am

re: #123 gmsc

Yummy!

Hopefully, it's not animatronic sugar fruitcup.
;)

Sorry, I was watching this episode of The Dick Van Dyke Show when I typed that.

141 schnapp  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:15:36am

re: #139 BatGuano

You like cats?

[Link: www.mycathatesyou.com...]

It's good, but it's no "Cats that look like Hitler".

142 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:16:52am

re: #139 BatGuano

You like cats?

[Link: www.mycathatesyou.com...]

Lame.

/Don't Pet This Kitty! Pt. 1

143 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:17:34am

re: #136 theheat

The cat I had after the best cat I ever had was afraid of watermelon.

/because...you know...it's BIG, and it ROLLS!
//wuss

;-)

144 Fenway_Nation  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:18:22am

re: #143 littleoldlady

So watermelon is not a cat toy?

145 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:19:05am

Fenway! :-)

Not to Ulysses it wasn't.

146 Fenway_Nation  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:19:36am

re: #145 littleoldlady

Did you try attaching some string?

147 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:19:50am

re: #142 Killian Bundy

Don't worry..I won't... I'm a scurred.

148 srb1976  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:20:27am

Morning everyone, coffee's done, and even though it's saturday, it my monday......

hope you all enjoy your holiday weekend!

149 SixDegrees  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:21:15am

re: #111 gmsc

This was simply a way of referring to the Al Gore reference and as a call back to the Animatronic 0bama story.

All of the sudden, people are trying to tell me "Oh, gmsc, it won't be a bad show. Mike Judge is funny! He's no liberal!"

When did I say otherwise?!?

I think your comment about Gore might have been ambiguous, and some thought it applied to Judge.

150 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:22:09am

re: #146 Fenway_Nation

Too busy applying neosporin to my arm, which he nearly to ripped off while trying to escape from the dreaded Watermelon Monster.

/major OUCH!

151 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:24:30am

re: #150 littleoldlady

Too busy applying neosporin to my arm, which he nearly to ripped off while trying to escape from the dreaded Watermelon Monster.

/major OUCH!

Watermelon Monster – OK, you've got a great title for a children's book. Now go on from there!
;)

152 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:25:58am

For some reason, I'm watching the Dick Van Dyke show on Hulu.

153 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:26:21am

re: #151 gmsc

Might be too scary for kids.

/hell, might be too scary for ME!

154 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:27:25am
155 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:28:13am

re: #153 littleoldlady

Ya could'a warned me. Geeez. :)

156 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:28:19am

re: #147 BatGuano

Don't worry..I won't... I'm a scurred.

/I break my cats long before they ever get that far down the human mistrust ladder, abused for YouTube in four parts and there's no reeling it back in

157 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:29:40am

re: #152 BatGuano

For some reason, I'm watching the Dick Van Dyke show on Hulu.

You're going to be busy for a few weeks

158 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:30:08am

Future fruitcup for one of littleoldlady's bad days...

/if'n Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!

159 BignJames  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:30:44am

re: #150 littleoldlady

Too busy applying neosporin to my arm, which he nearly to ripped off while trying to escape from the dreaded Watermelon Monster.

/major OUCH!

Keep a close eye on that.....mine gave me blood poisoning and nearly put me in the hospital.

160 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:30:44am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Future fruitcup for one of littleoldlady's bad days...

/if'n Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!

Halloween fruitcup?

161 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:30:54am

re: #157 Killian Bundy

You're going to be busy for a few weeks

Hell, Yeah!

162 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:31:14am

re: #152 BatGuano

For some reason, I'm watching the Dick Van Dyke show on Hulu.

Yeah, that would be my fault.

(Wait until you find out Richie's middle name!)

163 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:32:15am

re: #162 gmsc

Rosebud?

164 srb1976  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:32:27am

re: #154 littleoldlady

Or not.

This one might be scarier than angry watermelon...

165 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:32:48am

re: #159 BignJames

BignJames! :-)

That was about 20 years ago...

/...can I take my eye off it now?

;-)

166 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:33:09am

re: #154 littleoldlady

Or not.

/clowns, pickles

167 BignJames  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:33:38am

re: #165 littleoldlady

BignJames! :-)

That was about 20 years ago...

/...can I take my eye off it now?

;-)


No swelling?

168 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:33:50am

re: #163 BatGuano

Rosebud?

Well, almost. But why "Rosebud"?

(No, his favorite toy was not a sled!)

169 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:35:57am

re: #166 Killian Bundy

That's cruel!

/poor woman can't get past the pickles to the corned beef!

170 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:37:41am

re: #168 gmsc

Well, almost. But why "Rosebud"?

(No, his favorite toy was not a sled!)

I thought it was Rose something.

171 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:38:06am

re: #167 BignJames

Yeah, in fact it did swell. And it was painful for a while, too.

/but it appears the scars have faded
//probably because the arm he attacked was my tan arm
///you know...the one that gets tan by hanging out of the car window

;-)

172 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:38:21am

re: #170 BatGuano

I thought it was Rose something.

It is Rosebud, but technically that's not his full middle name. What is his full middle name?

173 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:40:53am

re: #169 littleoldlady

That's cruel!

/poor woman can't get past the pickles to the corned beef!

/they're no pickles with corned beef, sauerkraut, Swiss cheese, and Thousand Island dressing.

174 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:41:24am

re: #172 gmsc

It is Rosebud, but technically that's not his full middle name. What is his full middle name?

I give up. I remember Rob Petrie with a blackboard explaining it. I give up.

175 srb1976  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:41:43am

re: #173 Killian Bundy

/they're no pickles with corned beef, sauerkraut, Swiss cheese, and Thousand Island dressing.

thousand island dressing is full of pickles....made with sweet relish

176 theheat  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:41:59am

re: #152 BatGuano

Me too. Does anyone know if the French guy was actually French?

Wow.

177 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:42:13am

re: #173 Killian Bundy

/they're no pickles with corned beef, sauerkraut, Swiss cheese, and Thousand Island dressing.

/there's and rye bread

178 SixDegrees  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:42:34am

re: #159 BignJames

Keep a close eye on that.....mine gave me blood poisoning and nearly put me in the hospital.

Your neosporin or your watermelon monster?

179 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:43:06am

re: #174 BatGuano

I give up. I remember Rob Petrie with a blackboard explaining it. I give up.

His full name is:

Richard
Robert
Oscar
Sam
Edward ("E-D-W-A-R-D . . .")
Benjamin
Ulysses
David
Petrie!

180 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:45:37am

re: #179 gmsc

His full name is:

Richard
Robert
Oscar
Sam
Edward ("E-D-W-A-R-D . . .")
Benjamin
Ulysses
David
Petrie!

ROSEBUD, YOU BASTARD!

181 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:46:25am

re: #180 BatGuano

Was that out loud? Sorry. :)

182 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:46:46am

re: #181 BatGuano

Was that out loud? Sorry. :)

Well, technically, no . . .

183 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:48:36am

re: #182 gmsc

Well, technically, no . . .

Don't make me come after you, you literal misanthrope, because I'm just the Jasper that will do it!

184 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:48:43am

re: #175 srb1976

thousand island dressing is full of pickles....made with sweet relish

Ain't no pickles when you go Russian Dressing.

/but yeah, I'm a traditionalist

185 BignJames  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:48:49am

re: #171 littleoldlady

Mine got me on the leg....not bad...he's done worse. A couple days later I had a fever, chills and all, and that night my ankle turned red and started swelling, by morning the swelling had advanced to my knee. I went to the Doc. and got a shot in the butt, a liguid anti bio and some pills. Went back the next morning, got another shot in the butt, a double dose of the liquid anti bio and Doc sez " If the swelling doesn't subside by the morning I'll admit you and start IV anti bios." The swelling subsided. That cat's an asshole, but I love him.

186 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:50:41am

Blog posts on GM's current situation:

GM = Chrysler Redux

I have not blogged much in the last week on the Obama takeover of GM, but you can take all my old Chrysler posts and just substitute “GM” for “Chrysler” and you will have it pretty much straight. Having gotten away with hammering secured creditors in favor of the UAW at Chrysler, Obama is setting the same course at GM.

Statism Failing: Taxpayer Losses in GM and Chrysler Debacles Continue to Mount

Chrysler’s bankruptcy, and what looks to be the impending bankruptcy of government-run General Motors, are getting ever more bizarre and outrageously expensive. Two pics will demonstrate.

Here We Go Again: This Time Gov’t. Is Trying to Shaft Unsecured GM Bondholders

Earlier today, I noted in a post updating the sad situations at bankrupt Chrysler and headling-for-bankruptcy General Motors, that GM is, according to a Wednesday Reuters report, offering secured bondholders a much better deal than the 29 cents on the dollar Chrysler’s secured creditors have been offered. Chrysler’s “non-TARP secured lenders,” after what they allege with much evidential support was a campaign of threats and intimidation by President Obama and the White House, abandoned their efforts to have their first-lien rights recognized in bankruptcy court.

187 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:50:42am

re: #185 BignJames

That cat's an asshole, but I love him.

Sure, because he's YOUR asshole.

/oh wait...that didn't come out right!

;-)

188 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:51:46am

re: #186 gmsc

My poor mother and her preferred GM stock.

/they should be ashamed of themselves!

189 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:51:51am

re: #187 littleoldlady

Sure, because he's YOUR asshole.

/oh wait...that didn't come out right!

;-)

Rotating title!

/////

190 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:53:23am

re: #188 littleoldlady

My poor mother and her preferred GM stock.

/they should be ashamed of themselves!

Not to mention people in mutual funds and other investments with part of their stock or bond holdings in GM!

191 SixDegrees  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:55:34am

re: #190 gmsc

Not to mention people in mutual funds and other investments with part of their stock or bond holdings in GM!

The commercial investors dumped GM long ago. That's part of the reason it's trading as low as it is - too many shares on the market.

192 srb1976  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:56:11am

re: #190 gmsc

Not to mention people in mutual funds and other investments with part of their stock or bond holdings in GM!

This might be the reason I haven't even looked @ my 401k statements since all this crap started.....

(The account is made up entirely of employer contributions, so that's not quite as bad as it sounds)

193 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:57:26am

re: #185 BignJames

Scary story! :-(

194 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:58:33am

Well, good night, all!

195 BignJames  Sat, May 23, 2009 2:59:35am

re: #193 littleoldlady

Scary story! :-(


And now I've got 2 cats.

196 theheat  Sat, May 23, 2009 3:00:13am

re: #186 gmsc

after what they allege with much evidential support was a campaign of threats and intimidation by President Obama and the White House, abandoned their efforts to have their first-lien rights recognized in bankruptcy court.

Illegal and very scary. For all the Dems that were running around screaming about Bush's illegal this and illegal that, how about intimidation tactics by a legally-educated POTUS interfering with creditor's rights - all for a company that should have declared bankruptcy months ago, and spared the country billions in wasted bailouts?

Disgusting.

And, with that, I must go to sleep. Big morning, and I'm supposed to be up in 4 hours to go out to breakfast. oops!

197 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 3:00:18am

Good night everyone and God Bless. Remember our fallen soldiers, marines, Naval personnel and Air Force heroes.

198 srb1976  Sat, May 23, 2009 3:02:51am

re: #195 BignJames

And now I've got 2 cats.

Sure cats are strange, toxic little critters, (although a puncture type wound is much worse than a slash....the easier it bleeds the less likely it is to go septic) but i wouldn't have a house without one.

We were very lucky, our current cat was a shelter kitty, but she is VERY tolerant of my little kids... Not likely to lash out unless they are actually hurting her....win/win

199 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 3:03:39am

Good night, gmsc and BatGuano!

200 srb1976  Sat, May 23, 2009 3:14:44am

I suppose I need to finish getting ready for work....blech.

I love my job, but there are days I just don't wanna go...and today is one of them....

201 littleoldlady  Sat, May 23, 2009 3:26:26am

I have to get going, too.

/enough laundry and cleaning to choke a horse! :-(

Good day, ALL!™

202 UncleRancher  Sat, May 23, 2009 3:46:12am

{sound of crickets}
Anyone still here?

I checked the zoo website. One would think that a zoo website would be designed to attract visitors. You have to hunt to find out that this one is in Manitoba. I suppose you have to click a link or something to find out little details like what city in which to look, but there are no less than SIX (6) ways to donate money or buy memberships on that page. I guess you can tell where the promoters' minds are most connected.

Cute babies, though.

203 formercorpsman  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:07:13am

re: #186 gmsc

Thank you so much for posting them. I have been wanting to get a better grasp on that whole scenario.

I be off reading them.

204 formercorpsman  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:12:27am

re: #203 formercorpsman

As soon as I master grammar.

205 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:15:22am

good morning lizardia! The baby camel is too cute for words, Charles, thanks!

As this thread is about animals, I have a favor to ask of all of you. It's about birds. I've started to pay attention to them, primarily because they wake me up. At 5 am. On the dot. Without fail. There is always one bird that starts to sing (if that's the right word) and then they all go nuts.

Until 5:30 and everything goes silent.

At 6 they take off - to look for food I guess.

This never changes - I['ve been paying attention since February.

I know LGF has readers/posters from around the world. If any of you can tell me how the birds where you live behave in the morning I'd love to know (I'm in Alexandia Virginia)

Thanks in advance - nic is blue

206 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:16:57am

re: #186 gmsc

Thanks for that post. Seriously. Thank you.

207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:36:11am

re: #9 Sharmuta

AWWWW! Look an the baby kitties!

[Link: www.zooborns.com...]

I can haz eatz ur face!

208 Digital Display  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:42:07am

Good Morning Lizards!

209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:43:37am

re: #205 wahabicorridor

Birds kind of float around me un-noticed. Sorry.

I did find a chicken in my garage once. A live chicken. A live (HUGE) chicken. Had several chickens wandering through the neighborhood (must've flown the coop). Called animal control.

There were two news vans in the neighborhood within an hour...was a pretty funny light story on the news that night.

Chickens in a gated community. Was pretty funny.

They wanted to interview me, but I've heard that the camera adds ten pounds. They had more than one camera.

210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:44:17am

re: #208 HoosierHoops

You see my man LeBron last night?

211 Digital Display  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:48:40am

re: #210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You see my man LeBron last night?


Good morning veggie! Yup.. Love king James!

212 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:49:45am

re: #211 HoosierHoops

I could not believe how they got that off in a second.

213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:51:29am

re: #205 wahabicorridor

I have three deer that have been walking through my front yard between 6:30 and 7:30 every morning heading toward the Blue Ridge Parkway (runs about 200 yards from my front door).

214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:54:02am

Yep! I am here.

as;lkjfa;sldfjka;sldkfj;alsdkfja;lsdfkj;lasdkjfa;lsdkjf;alsdfkja;sldkfja;sdlfkj
(*drumming fingers on keyboard*)

215 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:55:18am

re: #213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have three deer that have been walking through my front yard between 6:30 and 7:30 every morning heading toward the Blue Ridge Parkway (runs about 200 yards from my front door).

Lucky you. I've got fucking coyotes in my front yard at about 6:30 most mornings. I can't even go get the newspapers without taking my gun. We have way too many deer and the state won't cull them - so now we have a coyote population explosion.

216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:55:56am

re: #215 wahabicorridor

In northern VA? Dayam!

217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:00:00am

re: #215 wahabicorridor

Can you please humanely trap about five thousand coyotes and set them loose in the congressional chambers? Please?

218 Macker  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:01:30am

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ha! I got a better one....

When my ex was a kid, her family used to raise chickens in the back yard. This was in the City of Chicago before it became a People's Socialist City-State, mind you...anyhow, she had a certain chicken which she was fond of.
One day she came home to dinner, which was chicken noodle soup. She asked her mother where her favorite chicken was, and her mother replied "She's in the soup." From that day forward, she HATED chicken and anything chicken-flavored.
Fast forward to 1989, where she visited our home in MIchigan, about four months after she kicked me out, trying to "save our marriage" (more like a scouting mission to determine my parents' assets, which her attorney went after). A couple of hours before she started an argument with my parents, which ultimately culminiated in my dad driving her sorry ass back to Chicago, we all had dinner. It was Rice-A-Roni and hot dogs, which she found delicious.
Oh, we forgot to tell her it was chicken-flavored....

/revenge can be sweet

219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:02:54am

re: #218 Macker

At least you're not bitter!
/

Heh...

220 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:08:01am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (63 degrees going up to 81 degrees with lots of rain in the forecast)cloudy Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:08:19am

re: #220 realwest

Hey bud.

222 Digital Display  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:08:48am

re: #220 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (63 degrees going up to 81 degrees with lots of rain in the forecast)cloudy Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Frigging Wonderful Realwest...How are you?

223 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:09:57am

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Hey there FBV! How are you doing?
How's your mom doing?

224 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:10:39am

"Weird Al" Yankovic - Christmas At Ground Zero

Welcome Back, da Cold War Feelin'

225 lazardo  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:11:05am

re: #220 realwest

So it turns out that the block I enrolled for when it came to my college-mandatory National Service Training Program was actually the Community Service and not the ROTC block.

Breathing a sigh of relief here.

226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:11:46am

re: #223 realwest

Starts chemo this week. Her head is screwed on perfectly. She is looking at this challenge with very upbeat attitude.

Thanks for asking.

227 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:12:44am

re: #222 HoosierHoops
Hi Hoops, glad to hear it! I just posted in the spinoff links that President Obama has :

urged Americans to pay tribute to veterans on Memorial Day, saying the nation all too often has "failed to live up to that responsibility."

In his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday, Obama said people can honor veterans by sending a letter or care package to troops overseas, volunteering at health clinics or taking supplies to a homeless veterans center. He said it could also mean something as simple as saying "thank you" to a veteran walking by on the street.

"We have a responsibility to serve all of them as well as they serve all of us," Obama said. "And yet, all too often in recent years and decades, we, as a nation, have failed to live up to that responsibility. We have failed to give them the support they need or pay them the respect they deserve.

I did a little editorializing in the spinoff links about that!

228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:13:45am

re: #225 lazardo

I have a friend that just spent $10,000.00 on a series of classes that turned out to be the wrong ones for her major.

College said, (I'm quoting here)...

"Oops."
229 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:14:05am

re: #225 lazardo
Hey laZardo - when did your nic become lazardo?! And it's too bad - you'd a loved ROTC!
/

230 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:14:08am

re: #211 HoosierHoops

Good morning veggie! Yup.. Love king James!

I've followed the NBA since 1966 and that was probably the most clutch shot I have ever seen. Not only was the game on the line, but the Cavs' season was on the line, the morale of an entire state was on the line, and ABC's ratings for the NBA Finals were on the line. LeBron is indescribable!

231 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:14:25am

Uhhhhhh......

It's Saturday. I'm supposed to sleep in, right? Who ordered the noisemaker outside?

Hey, everyone. What's the news today, and what are we discussing?

232 lazardo  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:14:25am

re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She should demand a refund or something.

233 lazardo  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:15:19am

re: #229 realwest

Hey laZardo - when did your nic become lazardo?! And it's too bad - you'd a loved ROTC!
/

Apparently it's how I enter my username in the login field. As for ROTC, I've heard some really scary stories.

234 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:15:22am

re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian I'm glad her head is screwed on perfectly for this second go round with cancer and I'm sure she'll whack it the way she did the first time!
Prayers going up for her now!

235 Macker  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:15:26am

re: #224 Jewels (AKA Julian)

ha ha ha

/

236 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:16:34am

Morning Honcos!

From the buy a clue file.

President’s Detention Plan Tests American Legal Tradition

There are, to be sure, already some legal tools that allow for the detention of those who pose danger: quarantine laws as well as court precedents permitting the confinement of sexual predators and the dangerous mentally ill. Every day in America, people are denied bail and locked up because they are found to be a hazard to their communities, though they have yet to be convicted of anything.


Clue....
Terrorism is not a legal problem.

237 Digital Display  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:16:59am

re: #227 realwest

God Bless all our hero's that gave all their full measure and life for our freedom. May God grant them peace.. May we never forget what they have bought us in precious blood.

238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:17:02am

re: #230 _RememberTonyC

The man is a phenom. He's freakin' 24 years old!

Barring injury...who knows what he will do.

239 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:17:54am

Jeff Buckley / Elizabeth Fraser - All Flowers In Time

240 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:19:47am

re: #237 HoosierHoops

God Bless all our hero's that gave all their full measure and life for our freedom. May God grant them peace.. May we never forget what they have bought us in precious blood.

I have to be honest here. Memorial Day always left me confused as a kid. Why? Because my grandmother went and put flowers on the graves of relatives: parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles, at several different cemeteries. But to my knowledge, none of them were ever in any branch of military service. I'm not sure why she did that.

241 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:21:08am

re: #230 _RememberTonyC
Good morning! That was a helluva clutch shot, but I still remember Jerry West taking the ball inbounds at mid-court with one second left on the game clock, spinning, shooting and scoring! THAT to me was THE most clutch shot EVAH in the NBA!
That was

West’s NBA career was highly successful. Playing the guard position as a professional, he was voted 12 times into the All-NBA First and Second Teams, was elected into the NBA All-Star Team 14 times, and was chosen as the Most Valuable Player of the All-Star game in 1972, the same year that he won his single NBA championship ring. He is the all-time NBA record holder of points-averaged during a playoffs series (46.3) and, as a testament to his two-way play, a member of the first four NBA All-Defensive Teams which were introduced when he was 32 years old. Having played in nine NBA Finals, he is also the only player in NBA history to have won the NBA Finals Most Valuable Player Award despite being on the losing team (1969). West was enshrined in the Basketball Hall of Fame in 1980 and voted as one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA history in 1996. His left-handed dribbling silhouette has long been used in the NBA's official logo.


Just so you youngin's will know who he was! LOL!

242 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:21:46am

re: #237 HoosierHoops

God Bless all our hero's that gave all their full measure and life for our freedom. May God grant them peace.. May we never forget what they have bought us in precious blood.

243 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:21:55am

re: #238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The man is a phenom. He's freakin' 24 years old!

Barring injury...who knows what he will do.


I am so rooting for LBJ to lead the Cavs to the title! I hate the lakers and I want to see blue collar Cleveland take down collagen infused LA!

244 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:22:29am

re: #235 Macker

:)

245 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:22:37am

Good morning, lizards!
I'm blogging from my fiances' house this morning, he's still crashed out from a late night so I'm logging onto LGF for my morning fix and a cup of coffee.

A busy day ahead, this is the calm before the storm... I expect to be up to my elbows in barbeque sauce by mid day.

246 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:23:16am

re: #241 realwest
Ooops! Link is: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:24:17am

re: #245 Irish Rose

Having lunch with cannibals? Hmmm?

248 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:24:28am

re: #246 realwest

Ooops! Link is: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Darn; I wish they had the picture of him dribbling and comparing it to the NBA logo. That would be neat.

249 Digital Display  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:24:35am

re: #245 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards!
I'm blogging from my fiances' house this morning, he's still crashed out from a late night so I'm logging onto LGF for my morning fix and a cup of coffee.

A busy day ahead, this is the calm before the storm... I expect to be up to my elbows in barbeque sauce by mid day.

Good morning Irish! I hope today finds you well..
What a beautiful day

250 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:25:13am

re: #233 lazardo
Hey my friend - that was ONE incident and his killers were brought to justice - the last one by lethal injection!
Seriously, that is NOT what ROTC is all about - although I didn't attend ROTC myself, back in my day you had to go through Basic Training - FUN!

251 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:25:30am

re: #240 vxbush

I have to be honest here. Memorial Day always left me confused as a kid. Why? Because my grandmother went and put flowers on the graves of relatives: parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles, at several different cemeteries. But to my knowledge, none of them were ever in any branch of military service. I'm not sure why she did that.

There's nothing wrong at all with doing that, but Memorial Day is a day that is specifically designated by Congress to honor those who gave their lives in service to our Nation.

252 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:26:36am

re: #236 jcm
Morning jcm! Yeah, I kinda stuck it to him in the spin off links too. Someone PLEASE buy him several clues!

253 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:27:54am

re: #241 realwest

Good morning! That was a helluva clutch shot, but I still remember Jerry West taking the ball inbounds at mid-court with one second left on the game clock, spinning, shooting and scoring! THAT to me was THE most clutch shot EVAH in the NBA!
That was


Just so you youngin's will know who he was! LOL!


Jerry West is the model for the NBA logo. 'Nuff said! I have a great Jerry West story. When I was about 9 or 10 years old, I was at a shopping mall in my hometown of Brockton, MA. There was a department store named Bradlees at one end of the mall. I told my mom I was going to look at the sporting goods and took off. When I got to the sporting goods area, Jerry West was sitting BY HIMSELF with a stack of photos (Regent Sports was the sponsor) and not a soul was around him. I recognized him immediately and was absolutely speechless! He signed a picture (which I still have more than 40 years later). I remember not having the courage to even speak! Can you imagine such a scene happening in this day and age? I remember it vividly.

254 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:28:07am

re: #252 realwest

Morning jcm! Yeah, I kinda stuck it to him in the spin off links too. Someone PLEASE buy him several clues!

The media is another issue, give Obama all kinds of slack in his decision process. Something they never afforded GWB.

255 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:28:50am

re: #247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Having lunch with cannibals? Hmmm?


You have no idea.
In this family it's all about the meat... steak, ribs, chicken, steak, pork, steak, ribs, steak, pork, ribs, chicken. My fiance is a career griller and has grilling down to an art form.

I like the meat well enough, but I like good salads even better.

256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:28:58am

re: #241 realwest

Little before my time there, old man. /

Seriously, I watch old footage of the NBA, and I have a hard time believing that the greats (in their prime) if time traveled to today into an NBA training camp could make a team.

Just like I believe that a young Mike Tyson would have torn off Ali's head.

Yeah, I might be an idiot.

257 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:28:59am

re: #237 HoosierHoops
Indeed Hoops, indeed. I suspect that Charles will have a Memorial Day thread up on Monday, now the day on which we "celebrate" Memorial Day, but the original "official" Memorial Day is May 30th.
I have a comment I'm working on to post on Charles Memorial Day thread.

258 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:30:17am

re: #240 vxbush
Good morning vxbush! Did any of them serve in the Merchant Marine or in the Coast Guard (the CG IS one of the brances of our Armed Forces)?

259 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:30:57am

re: #257 realwest

Indeed Hoops, indeed. I suspect that Charles will have a Memorial Day thread up on Monday, now the day on which we "celebrate" Memorial Day, but the original "official" Memorial Day is May 30th.
I have a comment I'm working on to post on Charles Memorial Day thread.

I put my memorial day post up yesterday, over on the blog.

260 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:32:49am

re: #258 realwest

Good morning vxbush! Did any of them serve in the Merchant Marine or in the Coast Guard (the CG IS one of the brances of our Armed Forces)?

Good morning, real. I hope your weekend has started out well!

No, I'm not aware of any such service. They were good people, I'm sure, and they served the local area by running stores and businesses, but no one served in the Armed Forces in any branch.

Right now I'm trying to see if I can find a news story from the 1950's when a relative was murdered. But I'm having no luck.

261 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:33:46am

re: #251 Irish Rose
Good morning Irish Rose - thank you for that; do you think you could send an e-mail to President Obama saying what you just said (see spinoff links as to why I suggest that!)!

262 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:36:32am

re: #253 _RememberTonyC
I can't imagine that happening in this day and age - I mean an NBA STAR signing autographed photos.........
for FREE!
That would have been a thrill for me too, even though I was a Knicks fan!

263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:36:53am

re: #240 vxbush

I think it is good to honor the dead. Whatever day you do it on.

I think of Memorial Day as "Memorial/Honor Day". Remember our fallen heroes and Honor the men and women who are still with us who have served and are serving our forces.

264 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:38:37am

re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Little before my time there, old man. /

Seriously, I watch old footage of the NBA, and I have a hard time believing that the greats (in their prime) if time traveled to today into an NBA training camp could make a team.

Just like I believe that a young Mike Tyson would have torn off Ali's head.

Yeah, I might be an idiot.


Wilt Chamberlain could play in today's game. So could Bill Russell, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and John Havlicek. There were some great big men back in the day that you may have forgotten (Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond, Walt Bellamy, Bill Walton) who could definitely play today.

265 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:39:03am

re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Well, that's an old debate about all sports, isn't it? Every generation kids get bigger, stronger and faster; have coaching at earlier ages than ever before, etc. etc.
But I'm telling ya, if you could "adjust" for those differences, at least 2/3rds of the guys playing pro sports these days would be doing something else for a living!

266 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:39:14am

re: #263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think it is good to honor the dead. Whatever day you do it on.

I think of Memorial Day as "Memorial/Honor Day". Remember our fallen heroes and Honor the men and women who are still with us who have served and are serving our forces.

Agreed. I was just sharing something that confused me growing up.

Part of me thinks it would also be good to go to the families today who have lost loved ones in the forces and tell them how much it means to me that one of their own was willing to sacrifice his life so that I could stay free. To me, that would have more meaning than putting flowers on someone's grave. The flowers are good and deserving; please don't get me wrong. But I think the families that are left behind need to see that love and appreciation even more. They will be struggling this weekend, I would think.

267 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:39:58am

re: #262 realwest

I can't imagine that happening in this day and age - I mean an NBA STAR signing autographed photos.........
for FREE!
That would have been a thrill for me too, even though I was a Knicks fan!

You don't root for the Cubs; you don't root for the Bulls; I'm getting the feeling you're not a Chicago man.

:D

268 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:40:01am

Memorial Day History.

Memorial Day, originally called Decoration Day, is a day of remembrance for those who have died in our nation's service. There are many stories as to its actual beginnings, with over two dozen cities and towns laying claim to being the birthplace of Memorial Day. There is also evidence that organized women's groups in the South were decorating graves before the end of the Civil War: a hymn published in 1867, "Kneel Where Our Loves are Sleeping" by Nella L. Sweet carried the dedication "To The Ladies of the South who are Decorating the Graves of the Confederate Dead" (Source: Duke University's Historic American Sheet Music, 1850-1920). While Waterloo N.Y. was officially declared the birthplace of Memorial Day by President Lyndon Johnson in May 1966, it's difficult to prove conclusively the origins of the day. It is more likely that it had many separate beginnings; each of those towns and every planned or spontaneous gathering of people to honor the war dead in the 1860's tapped into the general human need to honor our dead, each contributed honorably to the growing movement that culminated in Gen Logan giving his official proclamation in 1868. It is not important who was the very first, what is important is that Memorial Day was established. Memorial Day is not about division. It is about reconciliation; it is about coming together to honor those who gave their all.

Memorial Day was officially proclaimed on 5 May 1868 by General John Logan, national commander of the Grand Army of the Republic, in his General Order No. 11, and was first observed on 30 May 1868, when flowers were placed on the graves of Union and Confederate soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery. The first state to officially recognize the holiday was New York in 1873. By 1890 it was recognized by all of the northern states. The South refused to acknowledge the day, honoring their dead on separate days until after World War I (when the holiday changed from honoring just those who died fighting in the Civil War to honoring Americans who died fighting in any war). It is now celebrated in almost every State on the last Monday in May (passed by Congress with the National Holiday Act of 1971 (P.L. 90 - 363) to ensure a three day weekend for Federal holidays), though several southern states have an additional separate day for honoring the Confederate war dead: January 19 in Texas, April 26 in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and Mississippi; May 10 in South Carolina; and June 3 (Jefferson Davis' birthday) in Louisiana and Tennessee.

269 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:40:33am

re: #259 Irish Rose
I'll check out your post later (maybe it'll give me some inspiration; I seem to be having writer's block on mine!) didja put it up yesterday cause you're so busy this weekend?

270 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:41:07am

In Flanders Fields
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army

In Flanders Fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

271 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:41:13am

re: #262 realwest

I can't imagine that happening in this day and age - I mean an NBA STAR signing autographed photos.........
for FREE!
That would have been a thrill for me too, even though I was a Knicks fan!


But the most amazing thing was that he was sitting there BY HIMSELF! No rep from the store or the sporting goods company, no PR escort, NOBODY. In Brockton, MA of all places! He could not have been further from LA than that. I will never forget that experience.

272 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:43:27am

BBL ... Gotta head to Home Depot and stimulate the economy!

So long Lizards

273 albusteve  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:43:32am

re: #265 realwest

Well, that's an old debate about all sports, isn't it? Every generation kids get bigger, stronger and faster; have coaching at earlier ages than ever before, etc. etc.
But I'm telling ya, if you could "adjust" for those differences, at least 2/3rds of the guys playing pro sports these days would be doing something else for a living!

speed has dramatically changed football in the last twenty tears or so....not downfield receivers but linebackers and especially defensive line...they can flat out motor nowdays...size of the offensive lines is another huge factor

274 laZardo  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:44:17am

re: #250 realwest

American ROTC is different from local ROTC, and besides which, I'm not about to relive my high school days any time soon.

275 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:44:33am

re: #263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Well y'all know that I honor all of our veterans and all our currently serving military personnel, but that's saved for Veterans Day; Memorial Day is to honor those who gave their lives in the service of our nation.
Not surprisingly, Memorial Day isn't such a big deal down South here, as it was originally developed as a day to honor those who fought for the Union during the Civil War.

Memorial Day is a United States federal holiday observed on the last Monday of May (May 25 in 2009). Formerly known as Decoration Day, it commemorates U.S. men and women who died while in the military service. First enacted to honor Union soldiers of the American Civil War (it is celebrated near the day of reunification after the civil war), it was expanded after World War I to include American casualties of any war or military action.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

276 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:46:18am

I'm still trying to wrap my head around GOTC's silent departure and her rush to embrace of the cretins over at 2.0. She didn't offer even a single word of explanation or a goodbye, after four years of posting here and praying for our families and loved ones. I just can't seem to get past it, it's so grievous and hurtful.

There are plenty of Christian blogs out there, if she wanted to engage in more conservative conversation... why that place? Where so many of us are savaged and attacked on a daily basis by the participants?

A lot of us here trusted her, appreciated her example, and considered her to be a faithful friend. I wonder if she understands just how much she has hurt people with this? She is now embracing the people who call me a whore and worse, and I take that very personally.

It's going to take me a while to get over what she did... if I ever do.

277 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:47:10am

re: #269 realwest

I'll check out your post later (maybe it'll give me some inspiration; I seem to be having writer's block on mine!) didja put it up yesterday cause you're so busy this weekend?


Yes, I put it up yesterday.

278 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:48:02am

re: #273 albusteve
Good morning! Actually size and speed and athletic ability have all "grown" in all pro sports over the past 30 years or so; Hell, Alex Karras (regrettably best remembered as "Mongo" in Blazing Saddles), was an ALL -PRO defensive tackle at all of 240 lbs or so!

279 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:48:12am

BIAM!

280 Digital Display  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:49:45am

re: #276 Irish Rose

I'm still trying to wrap my head around GOTC's silent departure and her rush to embrace of the cretins over at 2.0. She didn't offer even a single word of explanation or a goodbye, after four years of posting here and praying for our families and loved ones. I just can't seem to get past it, it's so grievous and hurtful.

There are plenty of Christian blogs out there, if she wanted to engage in more conservative conversation... why that place? Where so many of us are savaged and attacked on a daily basis by the participants?

A lot of us here trusted her, appreciated her example, and considered her to be a faithful friend. I wonder if she understands just how much she has hurt people with this? She is now embracing the people who call me a whore and worse, and I take that very personally.

It's going to take me a while to get over what she did... if I ever do.

You and me Irish..I have been devastated by this turn of events..I really was so inspired by that woman.. My heart is fucking broken..
I have no words

281 Lincolntf  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:52:28am

Morning all. I know I'm late to the convo., but that shot by Lebron was unbelievable. He's unstoppable.

282 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:53:10am

re: #276 Irish Rose
re: #280 HoosierHoops

I haven't said anything about it yet. 'cause I don't know what to say.

I was dumbfounded when I first saw the speculation and I'm still dumbfounded.

*sigh*

283 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:56:25am

The media susses out Dick Cheney's motives.

Cheney's new book: 'I'm right, you're wrong'

Do I smell money in the air?

As expected, Cheney is now seeking to sign a lucrative book deal to tell all to the American people -- you know, the people he used to hide information from when he was vice president.

Cheney is something the left doesn't understand, like our military men and women.

A Patriot.

284 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:57:22am

Ahem, One of the components for my still draft format Memorial Day comment is this:[Link: www.imeem.com...]

285 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:57:24am

re: #283 jcm

The media susses out Dick Cheney's motives.

Cheney's new book: 'I'm right, you're wrong'


Cheney is something the left doesn't understand, like our military men and women.

A Patriot.

Well said.

286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:57:29am

re: #280 HoosierHoops

My last comment regarding this issue...

In her defense (not her leaving, but how she left) ... Flame outs, leaving announcements are met here with much derision. I'm going to miss her, but the heartbroken part is over for me.

Somebody has decided that they no longer desire my company, no more, no less. I will let them depart from me with all of the best wishes I can offer.

287 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:59:02am

I just found this bit of hilarius 'palestinian' propaganda at youtube,

Closed Zone

I imagine all of the simple minded antiIsrael loons crying over this.

288 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:59:37am

re: #283 jcm That's from the Kansas City Star, right?
So I mean, like who gives a shit what they think.
And you were certainl SPOT ON when you said:
"Cheney is something the left doesn't understand, like our military men and women.

A Patriot."

289 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:00:35am

re: #287 justdanny
Good morning justdanny! How are you today?

290 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:01:12am

re: #288 realwest

That's from the Kansas City Star, right?
So I mean, like who gives a shit what they think.
And you were certainl SPOT ON when you said:
"Cheney is something the left doesn't understand, like our military men and women.

A Patriot."

I'm guessing the theme will be picked up, after all Cheney is a greedy evil bastard (to the left and media).

291 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:02:50am

re: #290 jcm Yeah, you're probably right, even if Dick Cheney has forgotten more about being a true American than his critics will ever learn.

BTW, sorry if I embarrassed you with my comment last night!

292 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:03:54am

On people leaving LGF, not going to anti LGF sites, but simply leaving.

This place use to be an incredible resource. The comments section was like a sweet pool of sanity in a dark dark world. I was offline for a few years and when I got back online here recently I discovered that the thousand comment threads here were 90% silliness.

Sillliness is fine, but when it is the dominant part of nearly every comment thread, it makes LGF little more than a quick meaningless chat at the water cooler.

293 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:06:49am

re: #287 justdanny

I just found this bit of hilarius 'palestinian' propaganda at youtube,

Closed Zone

I imagine all of the simple minded antiIsrael loons crying over this.

Gisha produced that little award winner ( / ).

Gisha is an Israeli not-for-profit organization, founded in 2005, whose goal is to protect the freedom of movement of Palestinians, especially Gaza residents. Gisha promotes rights guaranteed by international and Israeli law.

Since the 1967 occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, Israel's military has developed a complex system of rules and sanctions to control the movement of the 3.4 million Palestinians who live there. The restrictions violate the fundamental right of Palestinians to freedom of movement. As a result, additional basic rights are violated, including the right to life, the right to access medical care, the right to education, the right to livelihood, the right to family unity and the right to freedom of religion.

Gisha, whose name means both "access" and "approach," uses legal assistance and public advocacy to protect the rights of Palestinian residents. Because freedom of movement is a precondition for exercising other basic rights, Gisha’s work has a multiplier effect in helping residents of the occupied territories access education, jobs, family members and medical care.
294 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:07:00am

re: #289 realwest

Doing good RW. Im spending today doing not a damn thing. Going to catch up on some internet stuffs. My big bro built me a website and Im examining what I might want to do with it. Its fresh and has nothing on it yet.
You doing alright?

295 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:07:56am

re: #292 justdanny Well it's rare that we have thousand comment threads these days (DT's excluded and they are by nature silly some times) but everyone is entitled to their own opinion my friend.

296 albusteve  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:08:45am

re: #292 justdanny

On people leaving LGF, not going to anti LGF sites, but simply leaving.

This place use to be an incredible resource. The comments section was like a sweet pool of sanity in a dark dark world. I was offline for a few years and when I got back online here recently I discovered that the thousand comment threads here were 90% silliness.

Sillliness is fine, but when it is the dominant part of nearly every comment thread, it makes LGF little more than a quick meaningless chat at the water cooler.

everything, on any subject can be said in a couple hundred posts...after that debate adds to the volume, but it repeats itself over and over....plus there are far more posters than even just two years ago...personally I say what I want on a topic then sit back...I do not parrot others if I can help it...if someone already posts what my thoughts are I just leave it be....but with so many avid posters there will be that much more chaff...imo of course

297 laZardo  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:09:07am

re: #283 jcm

The media susses out Dick Cheney's motives.

Cheney's new book: 'I'm right, you're wrong'

Cheney is something the left doesn't understand, like our military men and women.

A Patriot.

He shot a guy in the face for no apparent reason despite being held together by bubble gum, paperclips and duct tape.

That's badass enough for me. q:

298 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:10:07am

re: #291 realwest

Yeah, you're probably right, even if Dick Cheney has forgotten more about being a true American than his critics will ever learn.

BTW, sorry if I embarrassed you with my comment last night!

The good kind, I's say I think I get more in return from the munchkins that we give.

299 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:10:24am

re: #295 realwest
Rgr that. I exagerated the 1000 number. But the facts remain the same. I dont mean to pee on anyones jollies. Just mentioning the big difference I see between then and now.

300 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:10:46am

re: #292 justdanny

As far as I'm concerned, it's still an incredible resource. The comment section is still a sweet pool of sanity in a dark dark world. And yes, there is a lot of silliness mixed in with the serious.

I happen to think that humor and levity are extremely valuable things, in a world that is increasingly gone mad. When you add this humor and levity to intellegent discussion you have something that is far, far more than a "quick meaningless chat at the water cooler"... you have a refuge from the madness on the outside.

I prefer LGF just the way that it is, and I hope that it never changes.

301 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:11:50am

re: #294 justdanny
Ah, is that going to be an interactive (i.e., with comments) blog?
I'm doing ok my friend. Just had a scare this past Monday when my mom's doc said she thought my mom had had a "very tiny stroke" - further investigation by a qualifed doctor proved that she had not (just took meds - a bunch of 'em - in the order prescribed by her "stroke" doctor) and they collectively made her very dizzy and lightheaded. But it was (and to a smaller degree everyday still is) SCARY for me and for mom for a while there.

302 SteveC  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:12:16am

OT -

Greetings from Boulder!

The flight went well; and a few of you were kind enough to drop me an email telling me to be careful, with my bad heart I could easily get into trouble nearly 6000 feet above sea level. Thank you! And you bet no one is more worried about my health than ME. But if I didn't think I couldn't handle it, I wouldn't be here. (I also have supplimental oxygen perscribed by my doctor!)

I've really got to hand it to my friends out here - they've been supportive every step of the way, from offers to carry my O2 - not needed, the supplier delivered it to the hotel! - to an offer of a wheelchair and the unlimited services of someone to push me around. And all this for a guy who doesn't have any "pull" and can't donate a million dollars, but who just wants to come and help out and have fun with his friends. These people are the best!

Monday we'll put nine runners in the Bolder Boulder - nine people who have undergone a total of SIXTEEN heart operations! (and if you count me on the sidelines, add three more operations!) Because we want to prove that you can live a great life even if you were born with a bad heart.

So if you are in the race or are watching from the sidelines, give a shout to anyone wearing a broken heart T-shirt!

303 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:12:43am

re: #296 albusteve

everything, on any subject can be said in a couple hundred posts...after that debate adds to the volume, but it repeats itself over and over....plus there are far more posters than even just two years ago...personally I say what I want on a topic then sit back...I do not parrot others if I can help it...if someone already posts what my thoughts are I just leave it be....but with so many avid posters there will be that much more chaff...imo of course

I'm bolding the part that has a lot to do with this. We have a much larger population than before. And each time someone new comes in, it changes the dynamic, just because people are different. That's neither good nor bad. It just is.

304 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:13:45am

re: #302 SteveC

OT -

Greetings from Boulder!

The flight went well; and a few of you were kind enough to drop me an email telling me to be careful, with my bad heart I could easily get into trouble nearly 6000 feet above sea level. Thank you! And you bet no one is more worried about my health than ME. But if I didn't think I couldn't handle it, I wouldn't be here. (I also have supplimental oxygen perscribed by my doctor!)

I've really got to hand it to my friends out here - they've been supportive every step of the way, from offers to carry my O2 - not needed, the supplier delivered it to the hotel! - to an offer of a wheelchair and the unlimited services of someone to push me around. And all this for a guy who doesn't have any "pull" and can't donate a million dollars, but who just wants to come and help out and have fun with his friends. These people are the best!

Monday we'll put nine runners in the Bolder Boulder - nine people who have undergone a total of SIXTEEN heart operations! (and if you count me on the sidelines, add three more operations!) Because we want to prove that you can live a great life even if you were born with a bad heart.

So if you are in the race or are watching from the sidelines, give a shout to anyone wearing a broken heart T-shirt!

Have a fantastic time out there!

305 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:14:53am

re: #302 SteveC

That sounds amazing. What a great group!

306 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:14:55am

re: #302 SteveC
Hey SteveC - you GO man! You truly ROCK and I'm inspired by you.

307 Digital Display  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:16:05am

re: #299 justdanny

Rgr that. I exagerated the 1000 number. But the facts remain the same. I dont mean to pee on anyones jollies. Just mentioning the big difference I see between then and now.

yea..No problem..You need a valuable resource? Google.com
There are real people with real world experience here..Sorry we also chat some..

308 SteveC  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:16:58am

re: #304 Irish Rose

Have a fantastic time out there!

That mission objective has already been met, and I've been here less than 24 hours! :)

309 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:17:40am

re: #300 Irish Rose
Again, not wanting to step on toes, or tongues. I'm just pointing out what I see.

In all honesty Ive been looking around the net for a new site to recharge my engines at. LGF is an amazing resource still, but for me to have to sit on a thread for hours to sift out the valuable comments is more of a chore than I choose to carry out. When I start getting silly when what I want is to go to war, I have to drag myself back on task.

I was an early on lizard. I totally agree that LGF has evolved and should continue to evolve, as it will. Just sayin...

310 [deleted]  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:18:29am
311 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:18:38am

re: #307 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops! Listen we ALWAYS chatted some out here, but with Charles' new Ajax system, the comments are SO FAST that it's sometimes hard to keep a "conversation" or chat going - at least for someone who thinks and types as slowly as do I!
justdanny's just an OLD oldtimer!
/ducks and heads for cover!

312 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:19:44am

re: #309 justdanny

Again, not wanting to step on toes, or tongues. I'm just pointing out what I see.

In all honesty Ive been looking around the net for a new site to recharge my engines at. LGF is an amazing resource still, but for me to have to sit on a thread for hours to sift out the valuable comments is more of a chore than I choose to carry out. When I start getting silly when what I want is to go to war, I have to drag myself back on task.

I was an early on lizard. I totally agree that LGF has evolved and should continue to evolve, as it will. Just sayin...

You've been on a few more months than me. So we're both moderate oldies around here. But as the site gets more and more popular, you knew it was going to generate more interest and more people wanting to be lizards. So it's not surprising.

313 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:20:04am

re: #309 justdanny


Well, if it's not for you then it's not for you.
Good luck with your search.

314 Kenneth  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:20:05am
"We have a responsibility to serve all of them as well as they serve all of us," Obama said. "And yet, all too often in recent years and decades, we, as a nation, have failed to live up to that responsibility. We have failed to give them the support they need or pay them the respect they deserve.

"That is a betrayal of the sacred trust that America has with all who wear and all who have worn the proud uniform of our country," he said.

The words must have choked in his throat as he said that.
What a shameless, posturing hypocrite.

315 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:20:40am

re: #301 realwest
As of yet I dont know what Im going to do with the site. I hope to be able to give it enough time for it to be interactive. For it to be interactive I have to be able to monitor it. I'm shuffling the cards of ideas right now.

Good to here all was well. I think about my mom every day.

316 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:21:37am

re: #307 HoosierHoops

Youre funny.

317 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:21:45am

Terminator Tribute video

318 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:23:01am

re: #314 Kenneth

The words must have choked in his throat as he said that.
What a shameless, posturing hypocrite.

I'm sure it was harder for him to say than when he came up with his plan to make injured vets have their private insurance pay for treatment. 0bama as CIC is a disgrace to all of our military past, present and for the next 4 years.

319 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:23:42am

re: #310 taxfreekiller Hey my friend, e-mail incoming to you!

320 SteveC  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:24:57am

re: #305 vxbush

That sounds amazing. What a great group!

They are, they are! Shhh, don't tell anyone, but these folks are my heroes. It's humbling just to be hanging around with them.

re: #306 realwest

Hey SteveC - you GO man! You truly ROCK and I'm inspired by you.

Thanks, RW - but I'm just a short, slightly plump SOB. All I want to do is wake up in the morning. After that, we'll play it as it comes.

321 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:25:07am

re: #312 vxbush

I was just away from the net long enough that I was a little suprised by some changes. But hey folks, I aint hatin on anyone. Dont get your tail feathers up.

A guy is alllowed to express an opinion aint he? Without getting angry looks?

322 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:25:22am

re: #292 justdanny

There has always been chit chat at LGF in addition to serious discussion. There's more of everything now.

323 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:25:55am

re: #321 justdanny

I was just away from the net long enough that I was a little suprised by some changes. But hey folks, I aint hatin on anyone. Dont get your tail feathers up.

A guy is alllowed to express an opinion aint he? Without getting angry looks?

Sure. But I may have to think twice about sharing my chocolate.

///////

324 [deleted]  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:25:55am
325 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:26:02am

re: #314 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth - hope you and yours are well today! Y'all might want to check the spinoff links above where I posted that (and did some editorializing of my own!)!

326 Digital Display  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:26:15am

re: #316 justdanny

Youre funny.

I know..I love making people laugh...I really enjoy the lizards here...They make me think, Laugh, Cry and ponder life..
I don't know how to take your post...I feel marginalized..
Would it help if we discussed the math of dual black holes this morning..Would that help? I don't get it....Sorry

327 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:26:16am

re: #309 justdanny

The problem is that people get nostalgic for an LGF that probably never existed. In the early days of the blogosphere it was all fresh new and exciting. LGF has changed but not that much. If anything it's become more focused on reality which is less sensationalistic and people who need the hysteria and conspiracy theories are going to be very bored here.
I think the fact checking has slipped a little among the lizards lately but it will come back.

328 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:26:17am

for the next 4 3 years 7 months


geeezz,,, it already seems like 4 years, lets not prolong it !

329 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:27:42am

re: #320 SteveC
Hey there my friend - physical attributes have nothing to do with inspiration - for the important stuff in life.

330 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:28:00am

re: #329 realwest

Hey there my friend - physical attributes have nothing to do with inspiration - for the important stuff in life.

Hear, hear.....

331 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:28:35am

re: #314 Kenneth

The words must have choked in his throat as he said that.
What a shameless, posturing hypocrite.

Here's one take on Obama's "pose of above-it-all self-righteousness"

332 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:29:14am

re: #321 justdanny

A guy is alllowed to express an opinion aint he? Without getting angry looks?

The right to express your opinion without others expressing theirs back at you? Where the hell did you get that idea?

333 opnion  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:29:34am

Greetings fun seekers. Speaking at the Naval Academy yesterday,Obama said words to the effect that we not only need to defeat the terrorists, but also help the tribal Shiek in Kandahar build a better life for his people.
There is nothing wrong with that, but coming from Obama it sounds a little bit like he wants to deploy the Peace Corps.

334 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:29:47am

re: #332 Jimmah

The right to express your opinion without others expressing theirs back at you? Where the hell did you get that idea?

Pelosi and Obama!

335 albusteve  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:31:01am

re: #332 Jimmah

The right to express your opinion without others expressing theirs back at you? Where the hell did you get that idea?

hey!...shut up

336 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:31:09am

re: #333 opnion

Greetings fun seekers. Speaking at the Naval Academy yesterday,Obama said words to the effect that we not only need to defeat the terrorists, but also help the tribal Shiek in Kandahar build a better life for his people.
There is nothing wrong with that, but coming from Obama it sounds a little bit like he wants to deploy the Peace Corps.

Well the taliban need extra heads to chop after all?
/

337 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:31:32am

re: #331 reine.de.tout

Here's one take on Obama's "pose of above-it-all self-righteousness"

I love the last line:

And there Obama stands, bravely holding his flanks against straw men on all sides.

What a perfect description.

338 SteveC  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:31:51am

THE KING IS IN THE HOUSE!

One of the street entertainers at last year's Bolder Boulder was an Elvis imitator. This guy is good!

339 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:32:06am

re: #326 HoosierHoops

I just wanted to express that I long for the, um, battlefield that used to be LGF. I seriously didnt mean to raise anyones ire.

As silly as this might sound I use to do some good work here. Scored some points for the right side. Stood shoulder to shoulder with men and women lizards knee deep in the bile of the left and fught them back several meters.

I'm 4/5 an oddball, HoosierHoops. Please dont be offended.

340 [deleted]  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:32:15am
341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:32:24am

T'sok Danny. As one of the "spit-ball" folks here (I don't add content, just inane comments) I've always been a bane to serious folks. I'm used to it.
I'm not hurt.

*(i will not cry...i will not cry...i will not cry...i will not cry)*

Really, I'm fine.

342 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:32:57am

re: #331 reine.de.tout

Here's one take on Obama's "pose of above-it-all self-righteousness"


And there Obama stands, bravely holding his flanks against straw men on all sides.

Sums up 0bama perfectly.

343 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:33:05am

re: #325 realwest

Good morning Kenneth - hope you and yours are well today! Y'all might want to check the spinoff links above where I posted that (and did some editorializing of my own!)!

Remember this gem from a year ago?

On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.
344 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:34:11am

Justdanny, the other thing is that the topics have changed. Before, we were squarely concerned about islamofascism and terrorists attacks. While those things still exist, they aren't front and center anymore.

We are, after all, dependent on what Charles posts in order to determine topic discussions. And it's his blog; he has the right to post his preferred topics, where the wind blows him.

345 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:34:31am

re: #327 Killgore Trout

The problem is that people get nostalgic for an LGF that probably never existed. In the early days of the blogosphere it was all fresh new and exciting. LGF has changed but not that much. If anything it's become more focused on reality which is less sensationalistic and people who need the hysteria and conspiracy theories are going to be very bored here.
I think the fact checking has slipped a little among the lizards lately but it will come back.

As some folks leave (either through being blocked or self-exile), and new people come on, the "personality" of the group as a whole changes.

People who left and and are now back, looking for the same "personality" of the place that existed when they left - are going to find it is different, different people, different viewpoints.

It's just how it is. Might be a good idea for people to just jump in and try to enjoy what actually IS than to long for what USED TO BE.

346 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:34:39am

re: #335 albusteve

hey!...shut up

That's it. Step ootside ya bass!;-)

347 Digital Display  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:34:43am

re: #339 justdanny

I just wanted to express that I long for the, um, battlefield that used to be LGF. I seriously didnt mean to raise anyones ire.

As silly as this might sound I use to do some good work here. Scored some points for the right side. Stood shoulder to shoulder with men and women lizards knee deep in the bile of the left and fught them back several meters.

I'm 4/5 an oddball, HoosierHoops. Please dont be offended.

We are good Danny...I love the Lizard Army..We have a vast amount of insite and talent here..
Good morning

348 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:34:43am

re: #327 Killgore Trout

But it did exist. I was here long before registration happened. I dnt expect anyone to go back and look. But I was there.

And your observation is spot on otherwise. Evolution is a good thing. And even if its a bad thing its still a fact of everything.

349 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:34:43am

re: #331 reine.de.tout
Good morning reine! Hope you're well today! Thank you SO MUCH for that comment and link; I can't remember when I've read such an accurate and concise article about President's Obama and Bush (though more about Obama). Just excellent!

HEY Y'ALL - if you haven't already done so, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you go to the link she kindly provided.

350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:34:52am

re: #344 vxbush

Then we just steer it off in any dang direction we want to!

351 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:34:53am

re: #340 taxfreekiller

Here is what tfk has to say for Memorial Day.

The virtual wall is in Dallas at Fair Park, Dallas lgf's go by see.

Jerry Michael Shriver , MIA still, name is on the wall,
America we do not know where Jerry is even yet.

John F. Kerry is not on the wall, we do know where he is each day,
in our U.S. Senate.

Both of these things should not be.

That is all I will have to say on that until my last breath.


Don't forget about Scott Speicher.

352 opnion  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:34:53am

re: #336 Nevergiveup

Well the taliban need extra heads to chop after all?
/

IMO Obama wants to implement academic theories to the real world.
As an example, whatever one thinks of water boarding, I don't think that it is a big recruiting tool for terrorists.
On the Harvard Quad though, that would be the undisputed, conventional wisdom.

353 rain of lead  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:35:07am

re: #341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #326 HoosierHoops

morning fbv
morning hoops

354 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:35:32am

re: #343 jcm

I had forgotten about that line. Heh. By all means, bring it up again!

355 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:35:42am

Otter Pups Born at Seaworld

356 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:35:53am

re: #350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Then we just steer it off in any dang direction we want to!

True!

357 Digital Display  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:36:12am

re: #353 rain of lead

re: #326 HoosierHoops

morning fbv
morning hoops

Good morning..Hope today finds you well

358 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:36:17am

re: #343 jcm How could I possibly forget! LOL!

359 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:36:55am

re: #332 Jimmah

The right to express your opinion without others expressing theirs back at you? Where the hell did you get that idea?

I didnt mean that. You'll be making a mistake if you frame it that way. Lets stike to the facts.

360 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:37:01am

re: #337 vxbush

What a perfect description.

I liked it too. Was trying to commit it to memory, but my brain just doesn't work that way, so I just posted the link.

Mornin', VX!
re: #349 realwest

Good morning reine! Hope you're well today! Thank you SO MUCH for that comment and link; I can't remember when I've read such an accurate and concise article about President's Obama and Bush (though more about Obama). Just excellent!

HEY Y'ALL - if you haven't already done so, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you go to the link she kindly provided.


*blush*
Why, thanks Realwest!
How are you doing this morning?

361 Kenneth  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:37:05am

re: #325 realwestTha

Wow! Obama is clueless . If he really cared about the troops, he would know the difference between Veterans Day and Memorial Day.

re: #331 reine.de.tout

Here's one take on Obama's "pose of above-it-all self-righteousness"

Bang on about Obama`s narcissistic body language and rhetorical style. Constantly fending, evading, projecting, preening & denying.

362 rain of lead  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:37:06am

re: #357 HoosierHoops

have massive yardwork to do today.

/stalling

363 SteveC  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:37:42am

re: #341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

T'sok Danny. As one of the "spit-ball" folks here (I don't add content, just inane comments) I've always been a bane to serious folks. I'm used to it.
I'm not hurt.

*(i will not cry...i will not cry...i will not cry...i will not cry)*

Really, I'm fine.

I'm 97% jokester on LGF myself. The trick is, when you think you don't have any cards to play and not much money to bet, you still got to walk up to the table like you freakin' OWN it.

364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:38:01am

re: #362 rain of lead

Watch for the "massive coronary".

365 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:38:12am

re: #352 opnion

IMO Obama wants to implement academic theories to the real world.
As an example, whatever one thinks of water boarding, I don't think that it is a big recruiting tool for terrorists.
On the Harvard Quad though, that would be the undisputed, conventional wisdom.

If I wouldn't get arrested for it, peeing all over the Harvard Quad would be immensely satisfying. Maybe I should rent a dog, a really big one, for the day?

366 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:38:21am

re: #343 jcm

Kind of reminds me of those ads that are on TV all the time:
If you suffered death from this drug, call the number on your screen right away! You may be eligible for a large cash award.

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:38:29am

re: #363 SteveC

True dat!

368 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:38:59am

re: #355 Killgore Trout

Otter Pups Born at Seaworld



I've been half way around the world and back. Had the fortune of seeing some amazing sites. That stated, SeWorld/ Discovery Cove and the work they do there is one of the most amazing places I've ever visited

369 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:38:59am

re: #363 SteveC

I'm 97% jokester on LGF myself. The trick is, when you think you don't have any cards to play and not much money to bet, you still got to walk up to the table like you freakin' OWN it.

If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance,
Baffle 'em with bullshit.

;-P

370 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:39:03am

re: #360 reine.de.tout

Hey, doll. Waiting for my brain to wake up enough so I can drive into town, buy stuff that the son needs for camp and to buy the non-wheat flour so I can make bread, muffins, etc. this weekend. My bananas are in the perfectly super-ripe stage for making banana muffins!

371 Kenneth  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:39:15am

Well it`s too nice a day to hang out here, off to take my 4 yr old son for a haircut. Have a good day folks!

372 albusteve  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:39:34am

re: #346 Jimmah

That's it. Step ootside ya bass!;-)

lemme grab my beer first...you need one?

373 opnion  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:39:55am

re: #365 Nevergiveup

If I wouldn't get arrested for it, peeing all over the Harvard Quad would be immensely satisfying. Maybe I should rent a dog, a really big one, for the day?

"Officer, Bowser has never done anything like that before."

374 rain of lead  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:40:00am

re: #364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

it's ok....good workout

'yardwork is good for the soul"


"momcat"

375 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:40:01am

re: #355 Killgore Trout

Otter Pups Born at Seaworld


[Video]

Awww!
I love otters.
They are just too cute.

376 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:41:03am

re: #360 reine.de.tout
I'm doing just fine, thank you kindly!

377 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:41:11am

re: #365 Nevergiveup

If I wouldn't get arrested for it, peeing all over the Harvard Quad would be immensely satisfying. Maybe I should rent a dog, a really big one, for the day?

been there, done that. It's overrated!

(hell ,, half the student body was out there doing it !)))

378 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:42:12am

Russia to build nuclear power plants in Jordan
Countries sign deal under which power plants and research facilities will be built in Middle eastern country, Russian news agency reports

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Oh Dandy

379 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:42:31am

re: #339 justdanny

I just wanted to express that I long for the, um, battlefield that used to be LGF.

1) Yet you say that you want to be able to express your opinion without getting 'angry looks'. Doesn't add up to me.

2)There's no shortage of 'battle' on LGF. Creationism, Europe, climate change, abortion, tea parties, the GOP's woes, Obama - how many threads have you actually looked at recently?

380 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:43:16am

Gah. I think I may puke. Have the TV on, and they just played a commercial for a special cross made of crystal and sterling silver that has a "special crystal" in the center that, when you look at the center of it, has the entire L-rd's prayer etched on it!

For that special, low price of two payments of $19.99! Plus shipping and handling, of course.

Looking for my wretching bucket....

381 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:43:28am

re: #369 jcm

If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance,
Baffle 'em with bullshit.

jcm, I'm surprised at you. You know you're supposed to put quotation marks around things Obama says!

382 SteveC  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:43:44am

re: #347 HoosierHoops

We are good Danny...I love the Lizard Army..We have a vast amount of insite and talent here..
Good morning

The Lizards have great taste in music - you won't believe the number of times I have scraped through a music thread looking for good stuff to add to my MP3 collection!

383 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:44:00am

re: #380 vxbush

Gah. I think I may puke. Have the TV on, and they just played a commercial for a special cross made of crystal and sterling silver that has a "special crystal" in the center that, when you look at the center of it, has the entire L-rd's prayer etched on it!

For that special, low price of two payments of $19.99! Plus shipping and handling, of course.

Looking for my wretching bucket....

I've seen that ad! Had about the same reaction you did to it.

If I'm not mistaken, there is also a matching "child's version" of that cross.

384 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:44:01am

Report: Lebanon promised US military aid package
Lebanese Defense Minister Elias Murr says US Vice President Biden promised to provide Middle Eastern country with 42 fighter jets as well as helicopters, UAVs and tanks, regardless of election results
Roee Nahmias

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Why? Foe what possible use?

385 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:44:11am

re: #374 rain of lead

(psst. She's just telling you she is a great philosopher so you'll go and do the yardwork.)

You go ahead and tell her "NO! I am not doing it. You are not the boss of me! You are not Plato! You want the damn yard cleaned YOU do it yourself!"

(I'll watch from over here...)

386 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:44:23am

Ethnic violence on the rise in Greece....

Athens Muslim group attacked in wake of violent protests


At least three people were hospitalized in Athens on Saturday morning after a firebomb attack on a shop used as a Muslim prayer center for immigrants.
387 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:44:37am

re: #379 Jimmah
Respectfully Jimmah, please stand down.

388 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:45:12am

re: #383 reine.de.tout

I've seen that ad! Had about the same reaction you did to it.

If I'm not mistaken, there is also a matching "child's version" of that cross.

I don't know about the kid's sized version. I was howling at the commercial. The crassness of it stunned me.

389 SteveC  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:45:22am

re: #383 reine.de.tout

I've seen that ad! Had about the same reaction you did to it.

If I'm not mistaken, there is also a matching "child's version" of that cross.

Really? I'll call the White House!

390 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:45:41am

re: #372 albusteve

lemme grab my beer first...you need one?

Yeah - careful though - I use Nelson Mandelas 'Fighting Beer'

391 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:45:56am

re: #378 Nevergiveup

Russia to build nuclear power plants in Jordan
Countries sign deal under which power plants and research facilities will be built in Middle eastern country, Russian news agency reports

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Oh Dandy

Lets look at this another way

Today, Middle East countries that are awash in OIL are building NUKE PLANTS for power, while here in the states where because of the spotted snail darter (or some such creature) we CAN"T drill our own oil the same people that are blocking that are also blocking us from building completely safe nuclear power plants@!


I sure am going to enjoy those $1,000 a month electric bills once cap and trade is passed!

392 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:46:03am

re: #388 vxbush

I don't know about the kid's sized version. I was howling at the commercial. The crassness of it stunned me.

Yes, me too.

393 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:46:21am

re: #384 Nevergiveup
Why to use against Hezbollah, of course!
/heavy

394 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:46:44am

re: #379 Jimmah

1) Yet you say that you want to be able to express your opinion without getting 'angry looks'. Doesn't add up to me.

2)There's no shortage of 'battle' on LGF. Creationism, Europe, climate change, abortion, tea parties, the GOP's woes, Obama - how many threads have you actually looked at recently?

LGF used to be a biker bar.
Now the neighborhood has gone all upscale.

Course mere hatchlings like me don't mention things like that.

395 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:46:51am

re: #393 realwest

Why to use against Hezbollah, of course!
/heavy

Is there something wrong with the earth's gravitational field?

/Doc Brown

396 albusteve  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:46:55am

re: #386 Killgore Trout

Ethnic violence on the rise in Greece....

Athens Muslim group attacked in wake of violent protests

counterpunch...interesting eh? watching it slowly evolve into open violence?

397 rain of lead  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:47:15am

re: #385 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

bwahahaha
sure, i'll let you know how that works out

398 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:47:35am

re: #381 realwest

jcm, I'm surprised at you. You know you're supposed to put quotation marks around things Obama says!

You're right! My bad!

399 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:47:38am

Shouldering in to an old corner bar where the last time one was there it was not the packed cool place to hang out is a bit of a chore. Will I step on toes? Sure I will. Do I mean to step on toes? Negative. Will there be scuffles? Sure there will be. But when the smoke clears if you look over there on the wall at thse pictures from days gone by, you'll see my ugly mug was here back in the day. And although that doesnt entitle me to any special consideration, you best learn that back in the day I was here when the shit got thick and I never abandoned CJ. And even if Im off looking for a new less crowded more focused room to drink and plot and launch from, this place is every bit a part of my past as it is your present.

400 laZardo  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:47:40am

re: #384 Nevergiveup

Report: Lebanon promised US military aid package
Lebanese Defense Minister Elias Murr says US Vice President Biden promised to provide Middle Eastern country with 42 fighter jets as well as helicopters, UAVs and tanks, regardless of election results
Roee Nahmias

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Why? Foe what possible use?

To see if the Israeli Air Force hasn't gotten rusty. :3

401 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:47:43am

re: #391 sattv4u2

Lets look at this another way

Today, Middle East countries that are awash in OIL are building NUKE PLANTS for power, while here in the states where because of the spotted snail darter (or some such creature) we CAN"T drill our own oil the same people that are blocking that are also blocking us from building completely safe nuclear power plants@!

I sure am going to enjoy those $1,000 a month electric bills once cap and trade is passed!

One day I'll understand how people voted for this asshole and his friends, but until then, I just want to left alone in a room with some of them. A locked room.

402 albusteve  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:48:25am

re: #390 Jimmah

hahaha!...good one
I give up

403 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:49:18am

re: #399 justdanny

Shouldering in to an old corner bar where the last time one was there it was not the packed cool place to hang out is a bit of a chore. Will I step on toes? Sure I will. Do I mean to step on toes? Negative. Will there be scuffles? Sure there will be. But when the smoke clears if you look over there on the wall at thse pictures from days gone by, you'll see my ugly mug was here back in the day. And although that doesnt entitle me to any special consideration, you best learn that back in the day I was here when the shit got thick and I never abandoned CJ. And even if Im off looking for a new less crowded more focused room to drink and plot and launch from, this place is every bit a part of my past as it is your present.

Danny - just jump on in. You might find you like some of us "newbies" at least as much as you liked it back in the day.

It's early in the morning. Things will heat up a little later.

404 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:49:54am

re: #403 reine.de.tout

Danny - just jump on in. You might find you like some of us "newbies" at least as much as you liked it back in the day.

It's early in the morning. Things will heat up a little later.

Why Cognito going to show up?

405 opnion  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:49:54am

re: #386 Killgore Trout

Ethnic violence on the rise in Greece....

Athens Muslim group attacked in wake of violent protests

Here's what I don't get & I am not justifying violence against Muslims, there are always compaints against the host country. Here they are complaining about lack of proper Mosques & cemeteries, so why do they continue to come to the West?

406 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:50:13am

re: #379 Jimmah

If you want to express a counter opinion to mine, the best way to insure that I wont give it any credence is to pack an angry face on it.

We're cool. Everything is cool. I'll stand beside you and fight. Its all good.

407 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:50:16am

re: #399 justdanny
Well said justdanny - good hunting!

408 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:50:17am

re: #387 realwest

Respectfully Jimmah, please stand down.

WTF?

Calm down realwest. I'm going out now anyway. See you guys tomorrow or whenever. Have a good one :)

409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:51:20am

re: #380 vxbush

When you read it, it actually has "The Lowest Pair", by John Hartford...

"Much further out than inevitable;
Halloweens thy game;
Sky King has come, and Wilma's done;
Uncertain as it is uneven.
Give us this day Hors d'ouvres in bed
And forgive us from those who have dressed up against us
And lead us not into inflation,
but our liver onions and potatoes.
For wine is a shingle
And a mower
And a story for your father
And alright."

-John Hartford

410 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:51:38am

re: #404 Nevergiveup
ROFL! Or avanti?!?

411 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:51:44am

re: #404 Nevergiveup

Why Cognito going to show up?

Gah!
Let's see: maybe Avanti? SpaceJesus?

412 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:52:25am

re: #410 realwest

ROFL! Or avanti?!?

I can deal with avanti, but Cognito gets under my skin.

413 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:52:31am

re: #394 jcm

Perfect. I come in here today stinky wearing my once official LGF colors and people growl. Its cool. We're good. I can fight beside ya'll. Tell me I smell though and really, honestly, will we be cool then?

414 albusteve  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:53:08am

re: #412 Nevergiveup

I can deal with avanti, but Cognito gets under my skin.

heh...that's his whole gig...he's phony

415 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:53:30am

re: #399 justdanny

if you look over there on the wall at thse pictures from days gone by, you'll see my ugly mug was here back in the day

And if you stop trying so hard to prove your bona fides and instead contribute substantitive views, opinions, and facts to whatever the subject du jour is there won't be any need to worry about toe stepping and/ or scuffles

just sayin!

416 SteveC  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:53:55am

Meanwhile, back on the farm...

I'm taking off! The out of towners in our group aren't really here yet, and the locals are taking care of their personal stuff so thay can have a lot of time for our events and the race. So I'm making today my day to explore Boulder. So I'm going to put on a sweater and see what's up!

I'll be back later, and I hope everyone of you has a wonderful day!

:)

417 albusteve  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:54:23am

re: #413 justdanny

Perfect. I come in here today stinky wearing my once official LGF colors and people growl. Its cool. We're good. I can fight beside ya'll. Tell me I smell though and really, honestly, will we be cool then?

okay...who growled?...that's a penalty

418 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:54:36am

re: #414 albusteve

heh...that's his whole gig...he's phony

Yeah I know. But sometimes I rise to the bait. Got to control myself and ignore him and his bullshit.

419 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:54:40am

re: #408 Jimmah

WTF?

Calm down realwest. I'm going out now anyway. See you guys tomorrow or whenever. Have a good one :)


Calm down? I said "Respectfully Jimmah, please stand down." That's about as calm as I get! justdanny is just a good friend of mine from waaay back and we've been through some shit together - I didn't want to see any unnecesary and unintended nasty words spoken.
Y'all have a great day, too.

420 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:54:50am

re: #380 vxbush

Gah. I think I may puke. Have the TV on, and they just played a commercial for a special cross made of crystal and sterling silver that has a "special crystal" in the center that, when you look at the center of it, has the entire L-rd's prayer etched on it!

For that special, low price of two payments of $19.99! Plus shipping and handling, of course.

Looking for my wretching bucket....

The Evangelical community in particular is heavily into marketing Christian products and earning profit. It's all part of the whole "prosperity gospel" that is preached and promoted by the Evangelical churches 24/7.

A lot of Christians feel the need to buy all kinds of cheap and expensive geegaws to display their faith to the world, for some odd reason, and the merchants who sell everything from pencils to bookmarkers to bracelets to plaques to paintings to books to jewelry are more than happy to exploit them. Slap the word "Jesus" or "God" on something, include a clever little poem or a fish, and Christians will buy it.

I think that Jesus had people like this in mind when he drove the money changers out of the temple.

421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:55:45am

I like Cog.

422 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:55:54am

re: #417 albusteve

okay...who growled?...that's a penalty

my stomach ,,,, kids still asleep so I'm waiting till I make breakfast!

423 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:56:09am

re: #411 reine.de.tout
NOOOooooooo! Not SpaceJesus! For Lord's sake woman, have mercy!

424 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:56:11am

re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I like Cog.

I'll try not to hold that against you.

425 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:56:50am

re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I like Cog.

Why do I have this sudden urge to downding you !?!?!

426 irongrampa  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:56:56am

Good morning from the Adirondacks. Cloudy day here, temps in the low 70's. This is the opening of the tourist season, you can already see the increase in traffic. Not that objectionable, we just avoid the commercial areas, so it's still good times.

Something I wanted to share, got 2 more of our adoptees rotating home. Just in time for the holiday.
I'm just SO damn proud of these people, hard to express it.

427 laZardo  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:57:04am

re: #411 reine.de.tout

I changed my profile recently and I've recently started questioning what US soldiers are really dying for. Will that do for now?

/ q:

428 wrenchwench  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:57:20am

re: #399 justdanny

I don't think it's too crowded here, but if you don't like puns, yeah, you're gonna hafta log out a couple of times per day thread.

429 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:58:10am

re: #426 irongrampa

I'm just SO damn proud of these people

As well you shoud. Congrats

430 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:58:13am

Off to punch the day in the face! Y'all have fun!

431 albusteve  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:58:22am

re: #428 wrenchwench

I don't think it's too crowded here, but if you don't like puns, yeah, you're gonna hafta log out a couple of times per day thread.

quit needling him

432 VegasRick  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:58:29am

re: #417 albusteve

okay...who growled?...that's a penalty

Why are you guys looking at me?

433 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:58:36am

re: #413 justdanny
and
re: #415 sattv4u2
Same request I made of Jimmah - gentlemen, please stand down.

434 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:58:44am

re: #413 justdanny

Perfect. I come in here today stinky wearing my once official LGF colors and people growl. Its cool. We're good. I can fight beside ya'll. Tell me I smell though and really, honestly, will we be cool then?

I'm cool.

Part of it is LGF is high profile now. Charles doesn't want to be associated with anything untoward, and we have to respect our host in that matter.

We've had two major fault lines develop since the old days. The neo-nazis picking up the anti-jihad flag, and the creationistism issue. Both those changed the mix at LGF. (for the better IMHO).

435 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:58:55am

re: #420 Irish Rose

The Evangelical community in particular is heavily into marketing Christian products and earning profit. It's all part of the whole "prosperity gospel" that is preached and promoted by the Evangelical churches 24/7.

A lot of Christians feel the need to buy all kinds of cheap and expensive geegaws to display their faith to the world, for some odd reason, and the merchants who sell everything from pencils to bookmarkers to bracelets to plaques to paintings to books to jewelry are more than happy to exploit them. Slap the word "Jesus" or "God" on something, include a clever little poem or a fish, and Christians will buy it.

I think that Jesus had people like this in mind when he drove the money changers out of the temple.

You never saw such stuff when my grandparents went to church, that's for sure. It's really ridiculous and focuses on an external Christian look, rather than an internal motivation resulting in action.

Whitewashing.

436 VegasRick  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:59:40am

re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I like Cog.

I miss cog (every chance I get).

437 albusteve  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:00:11am

re: #436 VegasRick

I miss cog (every chance I get).

I miss Cog too....but my aim is getting better

438 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:00:59am

re: #420 Irish Rose
I think you may very well be right Irish Rose, but I think it's equally likely that that crystal cross is being marketed by folks who don't give a damn at all about religion - any religion - just care about making money.

439 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:01:15am

BEIJING — Chen Fuchao, a man heavily in debt, had been contemplating suicide on a bridge in southern China for hours when a passer-by came up, shook his hand — and pushed him off the ledge.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

"I pushed him off because jumpers like Chen are very selfish. Their action violates a lot of public interest," Lai was quoted as saying by Xinhua. "They do not really dare to kill themselves. Instead, they just want to raise the relevant government authorities' attention to their appeals."

OK, we've all felt like that....but?

440 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:01:25am

re: #405 opnion

Here's what I don't get & I am not justifying violence against Muslims, there are always compaints against the host country. Here they are complaining about lack of proper Mosques & cemeteries, so why do they continue to come to the West?

Muslims have been staging violent protests over alleged Quran mistreatment in Greece the past few days. As we saw with the Mo'toon riots a few years ago, this tends to create backlash.

441 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:01:47am

re: #428 wrenchwench

I don't think it's too crowded here, but if you don't like puns, yeah, you're gonna hafta log out a couple of times per day thread.

Im going to try to get use to it. But when Im on point and people are giggling beside me, well, its going to take some getting use to.

As for 'proving my bona fides', I dont have to prove shit. I aint entitled to shit. Just dont try to stick an umbrella in my beer when you serve it to me.

442 irongrampa  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:02:04am

re: #434 jcm

The blog is evolving. I remember reading here, long before I ever registered. Kept my interest, and it's been a first read for years.

443 wrenchwench  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:02:10am

re: #431 albusteve

quit needling him

You trying to pin something on me?

444 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:02:16am

re: #438 realwest

I think you may very well be right Irish Rose, but I think it's equally likely that that crystal cross is being marketed by folks who don't give a damn at all about religion - any religion - just care about making money.

Who knows? It might be the same folks who gave us the Snuggie*!

*Arms cost extra.

445 VegasRick  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:02:44am

re: #438 realwest

I think you may very well be right Irish Rose, but I think it's equally likely that that crystal cross is being marketed by folks who don't give a damn at all about religion - any religion - just care about making money.

I just figured out exactly which church it is the the Rev. jesse jackson reps!

446 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:02:51am

re: #433 realwest

and
re: #415 sattv4u2
Same request I made of Jimmah - gentlemen, please stand down.

"stand down"!?!?! Please explain what in my post was "stand down"ish?

Before you do, re-read your freinds posts today. One after another "I wsa here 1st",,, "it's not the same,,," "where has my blog gone" ,,,

Sorry ,,, but things CHANGE,, people CHANGE ,,,,Did you ever think that the people he's talking about, those of us that have CHANGED LGF MAY have been offended?

Old saying ,,,,, Those that are coming, get on the wagon , those that ain't, get the hell out of the way>

stand down indeed!

447 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:03:01am

re: #425 sattv4u2

Why do I have this sudden urge to downding you !?!?!


Huh, why do I have the sudden urge to waterboard him?!
Just joking there FBV!
Sorta.

448 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:03:30am

good morning lizards :)

449 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:04:15am

re: #439 Nevergiveup

8 years a ago in Seattle...

Commuters' mood turns ugly as suicide try snarls I-5 traffic

Passing motorists, Metro bus passengers and truck drivers hurled insults and urged a distraught woman to jump from her perch on the railing of the Interstate 5 Ship Canal Bridge Tuesday morning.

Police rushed to the scene to try to talk the 26-year-old Tacoma-area woman out of attempting suicide. But as the region's busiest freeway disintegrated into a massive traffic jam, the mood of some commuters grew ugly.

"People were yelling, 'Jump, bitch, jump!'" Seattle Police Department spokesman Clem Benton said. "Now who wants to hear that in this type of a situation?"

Not quite a push, but damn close.

450 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:04:17am

re: #426 irongrampa
Hot Damn! That is GREAT news irongrampa - I mean,of course, your two adoptees rotating home, not the tourists!

451 opnion  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:04:27am

re: #440 Killgore Trout

Muslims have been staging violent protests over alleged Quran mistreatment in Greece the past few days. As we saw with the Mo'toon riots a few years ago, this tends to create backlash.

Absolutely, Their actions trigger a reaction & it just spirals.

452 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:05:09am

re: #438 realwest

I think you may very well be right Irish Rose, but I think it's equally likely that that crystal cross is being marketed by folks who don't give a damn at all about religion - any religion - just care about making money.

Exactly.
Caring Christians would do a lot better to give their two payments of 19.99 to care for the hungry and poor in their local communities... my two cents. You can't carry a cheap piece of jewelry over into eternity.

453 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:05:29am

re: #448 Gella

good morning lizards :)

Top of the mornin' ta ya'

How do you like your coffee?

454 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:05:54am

re: #452 Irish Rose

Exactly.
Caring Christians would do a lot better to give their two payments of 19.99 to care for the hungry and poor in their local communities... my two cents. You can't carry a cheap piece of jewelry over into eternity.

Very spot on, my dear.

455 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:05:55am

re: #431 albusteve

quit needling him


Y'all know you could get stuck that way, doncha?

456 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:06:17am

re: #446 sattv4u2

"stand down"!?!?! Please explain what in my post was "stand down"ish?

Before you do, re-read your freinds posts today. One after another "I wsa here 1st",,, "it's not the same,,," "where has my blog gone" ,,,

Sorry ,,, but things CHANGE,, people CHANGE ,,,,Did you ever think that the people he's talking about, those of us that have CHANGED LGF MAY have been offended?

Old saying ,,,,, Those that are coming, get on the wagon , those that ain't, get the hell out of the way>

stand down indeed!

Wow, calm down wouldja?
It's a holiday weekend, relax man.

457 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:06:36am

re: #453 jcm

Top of the mornin' ta ya'

How do you like your coffee?

Served by the Hooters Waitresses of the Year!

458 itellu3times  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:07:00am

re: #230 _RememberTonyC

I've followed the NBA since 1966 and that was probably the most clutch shot I have ever seen. Not only was the game on the line, but the Cavs' season was on the line, the morale of an entire state was on the line, and ABC's ratings for the NBA Finals were on the line. LeBron is indescribable!

You argue a good case, but game-winning shots, even three-pointers, are not all that rare, must be, I dunno, several per year league-wide.

I recall one in the Lakers' dark days, Nick Van Exel made a last-second 35-foot shot to beat the Celtics in the last game played in the old stadium, then was smothered by a laughing Vlade Divacs.

Also, I've heard comparisons of players like Kobe to Michael Jordan, in terms of how many of these game-winners they've made in their careers. OK, this list includes free-throws and stuff, but even so.

459 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:07:26am

Anybody work in the consulting business? I'm being asked to consult and don't know how to valuate my time or output. I'll figure something out, but anybody.... want to consult on consulting?

460 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:07:51am

re: #453 jcm

Top of the mornin' ta ya'

How do you like your coffee?

strong and no milk :)
how is your morning?

461 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:08:04am

re: #453 jcm

How do you like your coffee?

Roasted dark and rich, black.

462 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:08:12am

re: #457 sattv4u2

Served by the Hooters Waitresses of the Year!

as an appetizer?

463 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:08:40am

re: #439 Nevergiveup
You know, I started to laugh when I read your comment (before I went to the link) cause I thought it was a joke.
Lord, please keep me and Lai FAR apart.

464 VegasRick  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:08:54am

re: #460 Gella

strong and no milk :)
how is your morning?

Sounds like bull to me.
/

465 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:08:54am

re: #456 Irish Rose

Wow, calm down wouldja?
It's a holiday weekend, relax man.

Thanks for the advice, but
A) I have to work both tomorrow and Monday
and
B) I made (imho) a reasoned and "relaxed" observation and was told to "stand down"

466 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:09:06am

re: #452 Irish Rose

Exactly.
Caring Christians would do a lot better to give their two payments of 19.99 to care for the hungry and poor in their local communities... my two cents. You can't carry a cheap piece of jewelry over into eternity.

It's the widow's mite parable.

Showing their piety with ostentatious display.

467 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:09:15am

re: #464 VegasRick

Sounds like bull to me.
/

just plain strong coffee with sugar :)

468 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:09:48am

re: #444 vxbush
Huh. With Snuggies I thought it was backs cost extra?!

469 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:09:51am

We need a distraction.....

OMG! PUPPIES!1!1!

470 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:10:20am

re: #434 jcm

Rgr that and Im on it. These new subjects dovetail with where Im at so the new focus is perfect for me.

Anyone and everyone. Please don't be offended by my comments here this morning. If I got your neck hairs up, I aplogoze, sincerely.

Ive seen all of the little spin off sites that hate LGF now, made and occupied by people who have nothing better to do with their lives then obsess on LGF. Swearing that LGF is horrible yet wont do anything but obsess on it. Imagine how sad that must be to spend so much energy obsessing on something you hate.

I prefer to get on with the things I love. I prefer to fight for things I love. I prefer to stand shoulder to shoulder with folks who love the things I love, not those who hate the things I hate. I dont fight against devout islam because I hate it. I stand and fight against it because I love my country, my culture, my people.

I dont fight for hates sake. I fight for loves sake, hopes sake.

471 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:10:25am

re: #465 sattv4u2

Thanks for the advice, but
A) I have to work both tomorrow and Monday
and
B) I made (imho) a reasoned and "relaxed" observation and was told to "stand down"

Realwest was just trying to promote morning calmness. It wasn't personal. Chill.

472 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:11:31am

re: #460 Gella

re: #461 BigPapa

Folks after my own heart.

I got a Starbucks card from a vendor a while back. I never spend my own money in their, but with a card, oh well.

I take an insane amount of perverse pleasure in going in and ordering.

Coffee, black, large.

473 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:12:19am

re: #470 justdanny


I dont fight for hates sake. I fight for loves sake, hopes sake.

Amen on that, Amen!

474 wrenchwench  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:12:27am

re: #470 justdanny

Do you like updings? :)

475 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:12:30am

re: #459 BigPapa

Anybody work in the consulting business? I'm being asked to consult and don't know how to valuate my time or output. I'll figure something out, but anybody.... want to consult on consulting?

1) Are there others who consult in your business? Call and see what they are charging.
2) Otherwise - are there salaried "experts" in your field? What do they make? If what you have is an annual figure, divide it by 2080 (# work hours in a year for those who work a 40-hour/week workwee) to arrive at an hourly rate.
2) Are you going to charge by hours worked or by work produced?

476 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:12:32am

re: #472 jcm

re: #461 BigPapa

Folks after my own heart.

I got a Starbucks card from a vendor a while back. I never spend my own money in their, but with a card, oh well.

I take an insane amount of perverse pleasure in going in and ordering.

Coffee, black, large.

i make coffee at home :) i can't get out of the house before i had 1st cup of coffee :) but i also make good turkish coffee:)

477 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:12:47am

re: #459 BigPapa

Anybody work in the consulting business? I'm being asked to consult and don't know how to valuate my time or output. I'll figure something out, but anybody.... want to consult on consulting?

Unless you're providing material goods (brochures, power points, etc) it's mostly billed hourly. Your time researching as well as actually sitting down and discussing whatever it is your consulting about. Now, as to the hourly rate, that depends on your
A)expertise
B)geography (you can charge more in say New York City than you could in North Platte Nebraska for instance

$25 an hour is a good base

478 vxbush  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:13:05am

Okay. I have to run into town. Later, everyone!

479 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:13:18am

sattv4u2

I am sorry. I apologize, sincerely. Please accept my apology.

480 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:13:57am

re: #459 BigPapa Hey Big Papa - I've done some consulting work on the side so maybe I have some thoughts or ideas for you!
If you prefer e-mail, my nic is blue, otherwise what kind of work do you normally do? Would your current employer object to your consulting with someone who might be a competitor?

481 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:14:30am

re: #470 justdanny

Rgr that and Im on it. These new subjects dovetail with where Im at so the new focus is perfect for me.

Anyone and everyone. Please don't be offended by my comments here this morning. If I got your neck hairs up, I aplogoze, sincerely.

Ive seen all of the little spin off sites that hate LGF now, made and occupied by people who have nothing better to do with their lives then obsess on LGF. Swearing that LGF is horrible yet wont do anything but obsess on it. Imagine how sad that must be to spend so much energy obsessing on something you hate.

I prefer to get on with the things I love. I prefer to fight for things I love. I prefer to stand shoulder to shoulder with folks who love the things I love, not those who hate the things I hate. I dont fight against devout islam because I hate it. I stand and fight against it because I love my country, my culture, my people.

I dont fight for hates sake. I fight for loves sake, hopes sake.

You're welcome to your feelings and opinions, just like everyone else here, and I'm not offended. It's also fine if you don't think LGF is where you can find the type of conversation that meets your current needs. Nothing wrong with that.

482 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:15:00am

re: #476 Gella

i make coffee at home :) i can't get out of the house before i had 1st cup of coffee :) but i also make good turkish coffee:)

I have a timed brewer, if I don't set it the night before, I'll go into the kitchen in the morning and look at the coffee pot as if it's betrayed me.

483 rightside  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:15:23am

Morning Lizards.

484 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:15:52am

re: #479 justdanny

sattv4u2

I am sorry. I apologize, sincerely. Please accept my apology.

No need (or want) of an apology. I just made an observation on your posts. I welcome you (back) to LGF, but I stand by my suggestion

485 yma o hyd  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:16:28am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Hope you have a sunny, lovely morning/afternoon.

Its sunny here - and I've started to stalk the two ravens in the park here, even took some photos!
They are magnificent birds.

486 Lincolntf  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:16:39am

Geez, did you guys see this?
SK ex-Pres suicide

487 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:16:51am

re: #482 jcm

I have a timed brewer, if I don't set it the night before, I'll go into the kitchen in the morning and look at the coffee pot as if it's betrayed me.

LOL, at this point i do on autopilot :)

488 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:16:55am

re: #465 sattv4u2
Again - I asked you to PLEASE Stand Down. I didn't
TELL you to stand down.
Just PLEASE take a fucking chill pill.

489 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:17:43am

re: #483 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Attention on deck!
Rightside arriving!

Morning!

490 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:17:54am

re: #475 reine.de.tout

Thanks for the questions.

1) There are others who consult in my industry, but there specialties are on the marketing and business process sides, not the technical and field operations side.

2) I don't know what they charge, but I'm trying to find out. All the best known consultants are close to the owner of my organization, so I can't ask too many questions without being found out. Not the end of the world if I am, but not ready to go there yet.

3) I asked the prospect to shoot off 10 things he wants from me, whether technical/specific questions answers, conceptual discussions, email chains, documents, or if I'm on retainer and he can just call me for an hour a week. It might be some combination of all.

Good questions Reine.

491 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:18:15am

re: #488 realwest

ahhh,, so as long as one says PLEASE the other person is disarmed!

I'll have to remember that!

492 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:18:18am

re: #469 vxbush
Awwwwww! How cute are they?!
Thanks for that one!

493 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:18:25am

re: #474 wrenchwench

Do you like updings? :)

Not really. But I guess I can live with them and their other halfs. Do whatever you have to do. I'll turn my head...now.

494 doppelganglander  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:18:54am

Morning, all. I'm afraid I have some sad news. After a long and brave fight against breast cancer, my sister passed away peacefully yesterday afternoon. She was only 55. She and her husband celebrated their 25th anniversary in March and their son is just 19 years old. She was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet and I'm going to miss her very much. I would very much appreciate your prayers for the family.

495 rightside  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:19:02am

re: #489 jcm

lol, thanks, but I don't rate that. "it's above my paygrade"

oh, and the one says we're out of money.

Imagine that.

496 irongrampa  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:19:12am

Off to the last of the yard work. See ya later, good people.

497 n in wi  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:19:30am

re: #474 wrenchwench

Do you like updings? :)


I don't dislike updings, I like disliking downdings

498 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:19:32am

re: #484 sattv4u2

Rgr that. Much respect, sincerely. Thank you.

499 rightside  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:19:38am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Our sincere condolences for your loss.

500 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:20:18am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Oh geez. I am so very sorry. Our prayers just went up for you and yours.

damn

501 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:20:37am

Is it against the nutrition rules to consume an entire package of beef jerky for breakfast?

If so, I'm screwed.

502 sattv4u2  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:20:59am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Morning, all. I'm afraid I have some sad news. After a long and brave fight against breast cancer, my sister passed away peacefully yesterday afternoon. She was only 55. She and her husband celebrated their 25th anniversary in March and their son is just 19 years old. She was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet and I'm going to miss her very much. I would very much appreciate your prayers for the family.


You still have my e-mail address, please send me her name so I can have a mass said for her at my church

God Speed !

503 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:21:20am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Morning, all. I'm afraid I have some sad news. After a long and brave fight against breast cancer, my sister passed away peacefully yesterday afternoon. She was only 55. She and her husband celebrated their 25th anniversary in March and their son is just 19 years old. She was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet and I'm going to miss her very much. I would very much appreciate your prayers for the family.

Prayers on the way.

My deepest condolences on your loss.

504 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:21:43am

Very sorry to hear this doppelganglander.... my deepest sympathies. I will be praying this morning for your familly.

505 callahan23  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:21:51am

G O O D - M O R N I N G - - - LIZARDS
It is a swell day here. Odd family situation here though.
So I popped in for a short while.
{realwest}

506 yma o hyd  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:21:56am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Morning, all. I'm afraid I have some sad news. After a long and brave fight against breast cancer, my sister passed away peacefully yesterday afternoon. She was only 55. She and her husband celebrated their 25th anniversary in March and their son is just 19 years old. She was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet and I'm going to miss her very much. I would very much appreciate your prayers for the family.

Oh how dreadfully sad!

{Dopelganglander}

Prayers for you and your and her family going up.

507 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:22:00am

re: #490 BigPapa

Thanks for the questions.

1) There are others who consult in my industry, but there specialties are on the marketing and business process sides, not the technical and field operations side.

2) I don't know what they charge, but I'm trying to find out. All the best known consultants are close to the owner of my organization, so I can't ask too many questions without being found out. Not the end of the world if I am, but not ready to go there yet.

3) I asked the prospect to shoot off 10 things he wants from me, whether technical/specific questions answers, conceptual discussions, email chains, documents, or if I'm on retainer and he can just call me for an hour a week. It might be some combination of all.

Good questions Reine.

I don't know what you do or where you live, but there is salary information here, US Bureau of Labor Statistics. Hunt around, may be other good info. there too.

Whatever state you live in also will have a Dept of Labor or something similar, that should have state job and career and salary information.

508 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:22:16am

re: #488 realwest

Kisses and hugs. Kisses and hugs. One of those hugs that lasts too long and makes you feel just a bit uncomfortable.

All is well, RW. Youre in the south now.

509 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:22:37am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Morning, all. I'm afraid I have some sad news. After a long and brave fight against breast cancer, my sister passed away peacefully yesterday afternoon. She was only 55. She and her husband celebrated their 25th anniversary in March and their son is just 19 years old. She was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet and I'm going to miss her very much. I would very much appreciate your prayers for the family.

Done.
So sorry, Doppelganglander, for your loss.

510 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:22:41am

re: #501 Irish Rose

Is it against the nutrition rules to consume an entire package of beef jerky for breakfast?

If so, I'm screwed.

ROFLMAO!

As long as you stick to the four major food groups you'll be fine.

Salt, fat, caffeine, sugar.

511 yma o hyd  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:23:05am

re: #501 Irish Rose

Is it against the nutrition rules to consume an entire package of beef jerky for breakfast?

If so, I'm screwed.

It probably is - but who cares, as long as you enjoyed eating them!

512 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:23:18am

re: #510 jcm

ROFLMAO!

As long as you stick to the four major food groups you'll be fine.

Salt, fat, caffeine, sugar.

And at my house, you would have to include ketchup.

513 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:23:21am

re: #494 doppelganglander

My heart is with you and your family.

514 wrenchwench  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:23:44am

re: #494 doppelganglander

{doppelganglander}

515 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:24:09am

re: #480 realwest

Thanks RW! My current employer (well, the owner of the company) probably wouldn't mind, but recent company politics makes it a little sensitive subject for the time being. All in all, he would probably not mind assuming I didn't give away company assets or ideas or reduce my bandwidth for him. I'm pretty sure he'd trust me on that, and my prospective client would not respect me if I started feeding him obvious company documents or memos and charged him for providing them.

I'm in the residential audio/video/automation industry; we design build all electronic systems in luxury homes. The person who wants consulting has a company but wants to take it to the next level. They are in another country so not a direct competitor.

I'll get some more ideas and email you.

516 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:24:40am

re: #512 reine.de.tout

And at my house, you would have to include ketchup.

Ewwwww...... vegetables!

/;-P

517 wrenchwench  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:24:41am

re: #505 callahan23

Odd family situation here though.

You have come to the right place.

518 VegasRick  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:24:56am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Morning, all. I'm afraid I have some sad news. After a long and brave fight against breast cancer, my sister passed away peacefully yesterday afternoon. She was only 55. She and her husband celebrated their 25th anniversary in March and their son is just 19 years old. She was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet and I'm going to miss her very much. I would very much appreciate your prayers for the family.

As we speak.

519 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:24:59am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Morning, all. I'm afraid I have some sad news. After a long and brave fight against breast cancer, my sister passed away peacefully yesterday afternoon. She was only 55. She and her husband celebrated their 25th anniversary in March and their son is just 19 years old. She was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet and I'm going to miss her very much. I would very much appreciate your prayers for the family.

{doppelganglander}

520 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:25:12am

re: #494 doppelganglander
Oh doppelganglander I'm so sorry for your loss. Prayers are going up for her and for you and your family right now.
My most sincere sympathies and condolences to you.

521 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:25:33am

BIG PAPA-
Here is the bls page for wage info.

And here is state labor market contact info.

522 SixDegrees  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:26:14am

re: #501 Irish Rose

Is it against the nutrition rules to consume an entire package of beef jerky for breakfast?

If so, I'm screwed.

You might run into problems with that if you're a vegetarian.

Otherwise, I can't think of any issues it would cause.

523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:26:48am

re: #494 doppelganglander

{friend}

524 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:26:53am

Well lizards, my better half is up and it's time to get on with the business of the day.
Have a good one!

525 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:27:06am

re: #505 callahan23
Morning callahan23 - y'all ought to go look at #494 right now.

526 quickjustice  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:28:00am

re: #494 doppelganglander

I'm sorry for your loss.

527 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:28:15am

re: #524 Irish Rose

Say. No. More.

nudge nudge, wink wink.

528 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:29:33am

re: #477 sattv4u2

I live in Hawaii, my prospect is from Cyprus. $25 an hour is much lower than my salaried pay now, I was thinking of getting close to my salaried pay for now.

I'm not trying to go into the consulting business per se. However, I am arrogant enough to believe nobody else seems to know what the hell they are doing and can validate my crazy ideas through somebody else. And get a few bucks on the side. It's something I'm passionate about as well, so I'm very interested to see if I provide a good value to this prospect, it might turn into more consulting if I make an impact for him.

I am greatly humbled by the opportunity as well.

529 callahan23  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:29:49am

re: #494 doppelganglander

My heartfelt condolences to you and the her family. I am so sorry for your loss.

530 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:30:23am

Completely from left field.

The Marvin Gaye school of business.

Accused madam: My work is spiritual

The woman accused of running several brothels in the area says her "work is spiritual in nature and that's what the men are seeking," according to the statement of probable cause.
531 bloodnok  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:31:22am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Morning, all. I'm afraid I have some sad news. After a long and brave fight against breast cancer, my sister passed away peacefully yesterday afternoon. She was only 55. She and her husband celebrated their 25th anniversary in March and their son is just 19 years old. She was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet and I'm going to miss her very much. I would very much appreciate your prayers for the family.

My sympathies {doppelganglander}.

532 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:31:24am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Dopp, my most sincere condolences. Too young.

533 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:31:30am

re: #530 jcm

Completely from left field.

The Marvin Gaye school of business.

Accused madam: My work is spiritual

hey it might be true for some , u never know
///

534 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:31:45am

re: #494 doppelganglander

So sorry {doppelganglander}

535 VegasRick  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:32:21am

re: #530 jcm

Completely from left field.

The Marvin Gaye school of business.

Accused madam: My work is spiritual

Well, "Oh my God" was heard being yelled in the house.
/

536 justdanny  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:32:24am

Bye for now ..

537 VegasRick  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:33:12am

re: #536 justdanny

Bye for now ..

Hope to see you later.

538 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:33:55am

re: #521 reine.de.tout

Fresh ideas. I've not been there yet, thanks.

539 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:33:58am

re: #533 Gella

hey it might be true for some , u never know
///

I recall a recent headline a brothell claimed it was a church.

540 Desert Dog  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:34:37am

Good morning fellow Lizards, what's the hot topic on the baby animal thread?

541 swamprat  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:34:49am

re: #494 doppelganglander

May you find comfort in the love that was, and in the comfort of your friends.

542 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:35:13am

re: #539 jcm

I recall a recent headline a brothell claimed it was a church.

for some it might be, some can make an honest man out of you
//////////////

543 doppelganglander  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:35:33am

Thank you all so much. Your prayers and kind thoughts are like a big virtual hug. The whole thing is such an emotional train wreck. My son and his girlfriend arrived yesterday to spend the holiday weekend with us and we were all so happy to be together. Of course there's nothing that could be done, but I feel terrible that our first long visit with the girlfriend (who is a doll, by the way) is overshadowed by this loss. We are figuring out if we can make the trip for the funeral. And to top it all off, my youngest daughter's birthday is Wednesday, which will either be the day of or the day after the funeral. The whole thing is a very bizarre mix of sorrow and joy.

Anyway, thanks again for letting me unload on a bunch of strangers who are really very dear friends. You all mean so much to me.

544 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:36:02am

re: #494 doppelganglander

I'm so sorry to read this. My thoughts are with you and your family.

545 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:37:34am

re: #540 Desert Dog

Good morning fellow Lizards, what's the hot topic on the baby animal thread?

Realwest's Link.

The Commander in Chief don't know Memorial Day from Veteran's Day.

546 callahan23  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:37:35am

re: #543 doppelganglander
{doppelganglander}

547 Desert Dog  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:38:44am

Our hearts go out to you and your family, Doppelganglander. I am very sorry to hear about your loss.

548 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:39:05am

re: #528 BigPapa

I live in Hawaii, my prospect is from Cyprus. $25 an hour is much lower than my salaried pay now, I was thinking of getting close to my salaried pay for now.

I'm not trying to go into the consulting business per se. However, I am arrogant enough to believe nobody else seems to know what the hell they are doing and can validate my crazy ideas through somebody else. And get a few bucks on the side. It's something I'm passionate about as well, so I'm very interested to see if I provide a good value to this prospect, it might turn into more consulting if I make an impact for him.

I am greatly humbled by the opportunity as well.

Big Papa - you already, then, have an idea of what your work is worth.

Suggest you figure out your current hourly rate - and then consider charging that amount for your "consulting", since this is your first job.

Be prepared to negotiate the rate, if they say it's too high.

549 Desert Dog  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:39:49am

re: #545 jcm

Realwest's Link.

The Commander in Chief don't know Memorial Day from Veteran's Day.

Why doesn't that surprise me?

550 callahan23  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:40:17am

re: #545 jcm

Realwest's Link.

The Commander in Chief don't know Memorial Day from Veteran's Day.


No sh*t!

551 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:40:36am

re: #549 Desert Dog

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Last year he honored the long line of fallen heros.... in the audience.

552 Desert Dog  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:41:50am

re: #550 callahan23

No sh*t!

He knows Nowrūz pretty well though. And, I bet he had a private "May Day" celebration too.

553 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:42:01am

re: #543 doppelganglander


Prayers and well wishes to you and yours in your time of grief.

554 itellu3times  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:42:16am

re: #459 BigPapa

Anybody work in the consulting business? I'm being asked to consult and don't know how to valuate my time or output. I'll figure something out, but anybody.... want to consult on consulting?

BP, I've done all sorts of consulting and contracting. How to value your time? That's easy, just split the difference between what you're worth, and what you think you're worth!

Seriously, I could bloviate on this all day. Big name consultants get big bucks just for showing up, no-name consultants generally (but not always) have to actually work for the money.

And it depends so much on the specifics.

Contracting - is just doing at an hourly rate, what would otherwise be a salaried job. Then you just figure the dollars per hour the job goes for on salary, and charge that, or maybe 20% more to cover benefit and holidays not offered to the contractor, and there ya go.

OTOH, if you have the one and only secret that the business needs to make an extra billion dollars, then you charge them half a billion dollars for the consult.

Hope that helps!

555 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:42:47am

re: #552 Desert Dog

He knows Nowrūz pretty well though. And, I bet he had a private "May Day" celebration too.

Nowrūz was classic, the Mad Mullahs hate Nowrūz and have been trying to stamp it out.

556 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:43:07am

re: #545 jcm

Realwest's Link.

The Commander in Chief don't know Memorial Day from Veteran's Day.


The Commander in Chief doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

557 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:43:24am

re: #545 jcm

Realwest's Link.

The Commander in Chief don't know Memorial Day from Veteran's Day.

doesn't he have ppl, who can tell him?

558 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:43:42am

re: #548 reine.de.tout

Suggest you figure out your current hourly rate - and then consider charging that amount for your "consulting", since this is your first job.

Thanks, I was getting close to there. Plus, I think the real consultants are overpaid.

I just realized reading your post: if I'm paid at or just below what my real job pays me (I've been here 6 years and a key employee), there's no implied incentive to reduce my bandwidth or loyalty if Mr Owner finds out. I'm comfortable with that.

Thank for advice, I really do appreciate it. I'm still investigating your gov link....

559 rightside  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:44:00am

re: #557 Gella

All he has is TOTUS

560 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:44:19am

re: #557 Gella

doesn't he have ppl, who can tell him?


Does he listen to any of them?

561 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:45:00am

so, i have little dilemma, what play to see tonight, living in Chicago choices are limitless
at this moment i am considering 12th night or Mary Poppins
we also have this [Link: www.chicagoshakes.com...] but i don't really this i want to see it.

562 callahan23  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:45:42am

re: #552 Desert Dog

He knows Nowrūz pretty well though. And, I bet he had a private "May Day" celebration too.

How about a nice jamboree to honor the October-Revolution?

563 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:45:46am

re: #560 soxfan4life

Does he listen to any of them?

i have one word in my head after your post: Superstar (In Mary Cathrine Gallagher voice).

564 itellu3times  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:45:53am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Prayers, and hugs.

565 Desert Dog  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:45:54am

re: #556 soxfan4life

The Commander in Chief doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

naaa, he knows that difference. What he has trouble figuring out is that the money Americans earn from hard work is not his money.

566 legalpad  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:47:03am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Condolences to you and your family. My mother died of breast cancer at 61, ten years before Jackie Onassis died of the non-Hodgkins Lymphoma. Sometimes you just can't stop it, regardless. Sometimes all you can do is appreciate the life you had and the good you did. Eventually, all of us will join her.

567 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:47:31am

re: #556 soxfan4life

The Commander in Chief doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

Sure he does, becasue so many people keep kissing it.

568 callahan23  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:49:01am

re: #567 midwestgak

Sure he does, because so many people keep kissing it.

That seals it.
Now I need to clean my screen. Thanks. ;-)

569 VegasRick  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:49:02am

re: #559 rightside

All he has is TOTUS

I think the "Teleprompter ™" likes to fuck with him.

570 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:49:15am

Good Morning Lizards! It's muggy in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today.

What's up with California?

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

571 rightside  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:49:57am

re: #569 VegasRick

reminds me of 2001: I don't think you should say that, barry.

572 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:50:09am

Yesterday Obama addresed the Naval Academy.

Did anyone else note the tepid applause at his big line?

"I will only send you into harm's way when it is absolutely necessary, and with the strategy, the well-defined goals, the equipment and the support that you need to get the job done,"

There was polite applause, but that's was it.

573 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:50:18am

re: #570 ggt

Good Morning Lizards! It's muggy in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today.

What's up with California?

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

is it muggy? i haven't been out yet

574 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:50:30am

re: #569 VegasRick

I think the "Teleprompter ™" likes to fuck with him.


That's the test Biden was refering to. As you can see the response is horrible.

575 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:51:17am

re: #570 ggt

Morning {ggt} It's muggy alright.

576 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:51:20am

re: #569 VegasRick

I think the "Teleprompter ™" likes to fuck with him.

are u talking about new musicale?

577 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:51:29am

re: #554 itellu3times

BP, I've done all sorts of consulting and contracting. How to value your time? That's easy, just split the difference between what you're worth, and what you think you're worth!

Hey, I like that a lot!

Great perspective. In posting with reine I think I'll just charge what I make with my real job for now (since I'm not a consultant by trade). That way if mr boss finds out, there's minimal risk of negative blowback.

My boss (owner) is a well known veteran and supporter of the industry in general. Me doing the same thing isn't necessarily a bad thing. Plus... I know how to do it better than him because I've spent so long in the trenches LOL.

578 VegasRick  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:51:47am

re: #571 rightside

reminds me of 2001: I don't think you should say that, barry.

Exactly!

579 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:52:05am

re: #510 jcm

ROFLMAO!

As long as you stick to the four major food groups you'll be fine.

Salt, fat, caffeine, sugar.

You forgot the other two: Chocolate and garlic.

580 Lincolntf  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:52:40am

re: #556 soxfan4life

Sure he does. The hole in the ground isn't smeared with the lipstick of the MSM.

581 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:52:42am

re: #494 doppelganglander

{doppleganglander}
{doppleganglander's family}

582 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:52:59am

re: #579 ggt

You forgot the other two: Chocolate and garlic.


Isn't Ice Cream its own food group?

583 notutopia  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:53:06am

This lil' joey looks akin to a hairless chihuahua!

584 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:53:12am
WASHINGTON (AP) - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Friday she won't talk any more about her charge that the CIA lied in 2002 about using waterboarding on terrorism suspects.

"I have made the statement that I'm going to make on this," she told reporters at a Capitol Hill news conference. "I don't have anything more to say about it. I stand by my comment."
...
"We're going forward in a bipartisan way for jobs, health care, energy for our country," she said. Regarding the CIA's briefing of Congress on waterboarding, "I won't have anything more to say about it."

There is no other member of congress I dislike more than this horrible woman.

585 itellu3times  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:53:17am

re: #572 jcm

Yesterday Obama addresed the Naval Academy.

Did anyone else note the tepid applause at his big line?

There was polite applause, but that's was it.

Tepid response to a tepid promise.

Obvious that the needs, duties, and other priorities of military action aren't on the top of Obama's mentality.

586 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:53:18am

re: #554 itellu3times

Most Lizards know that I was laid off 5 years ago from a long lasting full time job as a programmer, and I have not been able to get a full time IT job since. I have had a number of short term contracting jobs, but I always run in to the same problem.

I get work down fast, under budget and before deadlines, and that doesn't bode well with the contracting firms. And yes, I'm talking about everything from 1 man contracting shops to major players in the Denver area.

I care too much about the work I do, and I can't milk my job.

Currently, I have one small project that I have been maintaining for Kaiser (through a contractor), which bring in a few grand a year. This works out because I am the only person on the project (except for the project leader) and the platform I am working in is not the contractors normal programming environment. So, I am king of the hill on this project, and they let me take the lead.

Personally, except for the Kaiser project, I have never seen or worked for a contacting firm that is anything but a money pit for their clients.

I can't stand contracting work.

I can't stand contracting work.

587 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:53:22am

re: #579 ggt

You forgot the other two: Chocolate and garlic.

And any kind of gravy.

588 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:53:33am

re: #494 doppelganglander

My deepest sympathies with the loss of your sister. You will all be in my prayers.

589 cavallino_rampante  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:53:49am

Jar Jar Binks.

590 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:54:17am

re: #582 soxfan4life

Isn't Ice Cream its own food group?

Well, I think if it is chocolate ice cream, it falls under the "chocolate" category. So, I don't know.

591 VegasRick  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:54:37am

re: #579 ggt

You forgot the other two: Chocolate and garlic.

Wow! Learn something new everyday! I always thought the four major food groups were Caffeine, Nicotine, Alcohol and Rolaids.

592 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:54:42am

re: #584 unrealizedviewpoint

There is no other member of congress I dislike more than this horrible woman.


Our winter Senator John Forbes Kerry gives Madame Speaker a run for her money.

593 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:54:51am

re: #528 BigPapa
Sorry - real life intervened. I'd advise you to consider that consulting is just that; there are no benefits of any kind and the $25 an hour you get from your employer probably doesn't include the cost of health insurance, certainly vacation pay, paid sick days and etc.
When I was practising law, I did some real estate consulting (business-wise) and charged about $50 an hour more than my hourly rate at the law firm I was a partner in; and got - in writing - consent of my partners to go ahead and do the consulting work.

594 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:54:55am

re: #585 itellu3times

Tepid response to a tepid promise.

Obvious that the needs, duties, and other priorities of military action aren't on the top of Obama's mentality.

Maybe he was talking about Roosevelt asking to go to war on Dec. 8, '41.

We really weren't ready to go after Imperial Japan........

595 Lincolntf  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:55:27am

re: #584 unrealizedviewpoint

"I don't have anything more to say about it. I stand by my comment."

Which comment, you bilious old hag? You've changed your story so many times that "standing by" all of them would make you certifiably insane.

596 itellu3times  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:55:56am

re: #577 BigPapa

Great perspective. In posting with reine I think I'll just charge what I make with my real job for now (since I'm not a consultant by trade). That way if mr boss finds out, there's minimal risk of negative blowback.

Well heck, that should be a bare minimum, all things considered, anything less would have to qualify as a hobby.

597 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:57:08am

re: #595 Lincolntf

"I don't have anything more to say about it. I stand by my comment."

Which comment, you bilious old hag? You've changed your story so many times that "standing by" all of them would make you certifiably insane.


She's told enough versions of the story, there really is nothing more for her to say.

598 kynna  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:57:25am

re: #494 doppelganglander

Morning, all. I'm afraid I have some sad news. After a long and brave fight against breast cancer, my sister passed away peacefully yesterday afternoon. She was only 55. She and her husband celebrated their 25th anniversary in March and their son is just 19 years old. She was the warmest, most generous person you could ever meet and I'm going to miss her very much. I would very much appreciate your prayers for the family.

So sorry for your loss. I will pray for you and your family.

599 doppelganglander  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:57:38am

re: #566 legalpad

Condolences to you and your family. My mother died of breast cancer at 61, ten years before Jackie Onassis died of the non-Hodgkins Lymphoma. Sometimes you just can't stop it, regardless. Sometimes all you can do is appreciate the life you had and the good you did. Eventually, all of us will join her.

Thanks, legalpad. My condolences on the loss of your mother. I am very seriously thinking about doing the 3-day walk in October in my sister's memory.

600 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:57:40am

re: #597 soxfan4life

She's told enough versions of the story, there really is nothing more for her to say.

She's covered all contingencies.

601 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:58:05am

re: #545 jcm

Realwest's Link.

The Commander in Chief don't know Memorial Day from Veteran's Day.

Oh, it's ONE of those stupid baby-killer holidays... what's the difference?

/

602 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:58:18am

Well, now, the unofficial Lizard Food Groups are:

Caffeine
Salt
Fat
Sugar
Chocolate
Garlic
Ice Cream (?)
Gravy
Nicotine
Alcohol
Rolaids

Any thoughts on including or not including Ice Cream?

603 bloodnok  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:59:15am

re: #602 ggt

Well, now, the unofficial Lizard Food Groups are:

Caffeine
Salt
Fat
Sugar
Chocolate
Garlic
Ice Cream (?)
Gravy
Nicotine
Alcohol
Rolaids

Any thoughts on including or not including Ice Cream?

Troll ought to be in there. :)

604 Shug  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:59:40am

re: #602 ggt

Well, now, the unofficial Lizard Food Groups are:

Caffeine
Salt
Fat
Sugar
Chocolate
Garlic
Ice Cream (?)
Gravy
Nicotine
Alcohol
Rolaids

Any thoughts on including or not including Ice Cream?


some people eat crow

605 jaunte  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:59:48am

re: #602 ggt

How about aspirin?

606 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:59:49am

I wasn't planning on posting this morning but this story jumped out at me. GOP stupidity at its worst:

Georgia Republican Wants Obama to Make 2010 Year of the Bible

When someone wants to pitch the First Amendment out the window, they've lost my vote.

607 yma o hyd  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:59:56am

re: #602 ggt

Well, now, the unofficial Lizard Food Groups are:

Caffeine
Salt
Fat
Sugar
Chocolate
Garlic
Ice Cream (?)
Gravy
Nicotine
Alcohol
Rolaids

Any thoughts on including or not including Ice Cream?


Ice Cream is definitely a food category, but you've forgotten biscuits and cakes!

608 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 8:59:57am

re: #601 Occasional Reader

Oh, it's ONE of those stupid baby-killer holidays... what's the difference?

/


Obama likes dead persons more than live veterans as the dead are much more apt to vote for him than Active Duty Military personnel or veterans.

609 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:00:11am

re: #602 ggt

Well, now, the unofficial Lizard Food Groups are:

Caffeine
Salt
Fat
Sugar
Chocolate
Garlic
Ice Cream (?)
Gravy
Nicotine
Alcohol
Rolaids

Any thoughts on including or not including Ice Cream?

Helllloooo... what about "beer"?

610 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:00:54am

re: #543 doppelganglander
Um, could you please provide me with your sister's name; I am going to try to maintain The List that was maintained by Goddessoftheclassroom.

611 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:01:18am

OT The History Channel is reairing Band of Brothers. It's one of the few DVDs I ever cared to purchase. Quality portrails of Easy Company throughout WWII.

612 yma o hyd  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:01:39am

This is obviously not a food category!

613 MandyManners  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:01:44am

re: #602 ggt

Well, now, the unofficial Lizard Food Groups are:

Caffeine
Salt
Fat
Sugar
Chocolate
Garlic
Ice Cream (?)
Gravy
Nicotine
Alcohol
Rolaids

Any thoughts on including or not including Ice Cream?

You forgot Valium.

614 Desert Dog  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:02:35am

re: #611 midwestgak

I bought that on dvd when it came out too. A very good series indeed

615 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:02:37am

Changing of the Guard.

616 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:02:52am

re: #610 realwest

Um, could you please provide me with your sister's name; I am going to try to maintain The List that was maintained by Goddessoftheclassroom.

You are one of a kind {real}.

617 jaunte  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:03:13am

re: #601 Occasional Reader

From the link; Obama once again intends to talk about others, winds up speaking in reference to himself.

Obama said he was committed to giving troops the training and equipment they need and making certain the Veterans Affairs Department had the money it needed. He also noted that he had signed a bill into law that would eliminate waste in defense projects and was working to improve the economy so that veterans can find a good job, provide for their families and earn a college degree.

"That is what Memorial Day is all about," Obama said. "It is about doing all we can to repay the debt we owe to those men and women who have answered our nation's call by fighting under its flag. It is about recognizing that we, as a people, did not get here by accident or good fortune alone."

618 rightside  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:03:32am

Don't forget the neglected food groups too.

Whipped group
Congealed group
Chocotastic group

619 Shug  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:03:33am

re: #602 ggt

Well, now, the unofficial Lizard Food Groups are:

Caffeine
Salt
Fat
Sugar
Chocolate
Garlic
Ice Cream (?)
Gravy
Nicotine
Alcohol
Rolaids

Any thoughts on including or not including Ice Cream?

Chili
Cheese
BBQ
pr0n

620 doppelganglander  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:03:53am

re: #606 Dark_Falcon

I wasn't planning on posting this morning but this story jumped out at me. GOP stupidity at its worst:

Georgia Republican Wants Obama to Make 2010 Year of the Bible

When someone wants to pitch the First Amendment out the window, they've lost my vote.

On behalf of the state of Georgia, I apologize.

/He's not my Congresscritter, thank goodness.

621 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:04:02am

re: #557 Gella

doesn't he have ppl, who can tell him?


Apparently not. Sort goes along with Obama and "his peoples'" ignorance of American History.

622 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:04:35am

re: #621 realwest

Apparently not. Sort goes along with Obama and "his peoples'" ignorance of American History.

well you know, ignorance is the bliss, use it wisely and thats what he does

623 kynna  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:04:50am

re: #591 VegasRick

Wow! Learn something new everyday! I always thought the four major food groups were Caffeine, Nicotine, Alcohol and Rolaids.

Actually, they're: butter, sour cream, mayonnaise, and cheese.

Sadly, since the lactose intolerance set in, I'm extremely malnourished with only two food groups covered on a daily basis. I make up for the loss of nutrition with guacamole and tortilla chips, but I often feel weak.

624 doppelganglander  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:05:04am

re: #602 ggt

Well, now, the unofficial Lizard Food Groups are:

Caffeine
Salt
Fat
Sugar
Chocolate
Garlic
Ice Cream (?)
Gravy
Nicotine
Alcohol
Rolaids

Any thoughts on including or not including Ice Cream?

Candy, candy corn, candy canes, and syrup.

625 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:05:32am

Lizards have any of you seen Mary Poppins, i am looking for reviews.

626 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:05:51am

re: #622 Gella

well you know, ignorance is the bliss, use it wisely and thats what he does

I would say he uses it liberally not wisely.

627 SixDegrees  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:06:19am

re: #572 jcm

Yesterday Obama addresed the Naval Academy.

Did anyone else note the tepid applause at his big line?

There was polite applause, but that's was it.

Definite golf clap at all of his appearances in front of the military.

628 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:06:41am

re: #625 Gella

Lizards have any of you seen Mary Poppins, i am looking for reviews.

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!

629 callahan23  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:06:50am

re: #602 ggt

Well, now, the unofficial Lizard Food Groups are:

Caffeine
Salt
Fat
Sugar
Chocolate
Garlic
Ice Cream (?)
Gravy
Nicotine
Alcohol
Rolaids

Any thoughts on including or not including Ice Cream?

Why not saying:
Anything for the sweet tooth
would easily include: Ice Cream, chocolate, biscuits and cakes etc. pp.
Crow and Troll not so much

630 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:07:01am

18:35 Arab League Chief: Recognition of Israel in exchange for peace - not possible (Ch. 10)

How about them apples Obama? Keep that in mind when you give that speech in Egypt soon.

631 legalpad  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:07:17am

re: #606 Dark_Falcon

I wasn't planning on posting this morning but this story jumped out at me. GOP stupidity at its worst:

Georgia Republican Wants Obama to Make 2010 Year of the Bible

When someone wants to pitch the First Amendment out the window, they've lost my vote.

Some people just don't seem to understand the constitution. Sometimes it seems like no people understand it.

632 itellu3times  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:07:18am

re: #586 Walter L. Newton

I get work down fast, under budget and before deadlines, and that doesn't bode well with the contracting firms.

Yeah me too. I'm on a contract right now, sitting next to and working with another guy from the same company. I generally shoot for 40 hours/week, he generally shoots for 50-plus, our group lead, who is an employee but by special arrangement is paid hourly instead of salary, generally shoots for 60 hours/week. So, who provides the most value? Well, let's say we've all found our own niches.

633 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:07:42am

re: #628 jcm

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!

Did you Spell Check that?///

634 wrenchwench  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:07:49am

re: #625 Gella

Lizards have any of you seen Mary Poppins, i am looking for reviews.

I saw the movie with Julie Andrews in 1964. I loved it, but I was 6, so not much of a critic. Is that the one you're thinking of?

635 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:08:02am

re: #628 jcm

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!

mouth full :)

636 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:08:20am

re: #596 itellu3times

Well heck, that should be a bare minimum, all things considered, anything less would have to qualify as a hobby.

True. Since this is my first job, I'll take training wages. If I'm as effective as I think I can be (and this turns into more work), I can charge more.

Funny thing is, it is sort of a hobby. I participate in a private industry forum for my vocation/profession, and my opinionated and impassioned statements are what caused this person to pursue me to consult for them.

Seeing somebody else succeed would be awesome. Making a few bucks on top of that would be icing on the cake and enable other hobbies such as collecting and drinking old rotten grape juice and whacking little white balls into lakes and ocean inlets around my locale.

637 itellu3times  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:08:22am

re: #602 ggt

Well, now, the unofficial Lizard Food Groups are:

Caffeine
Salt
Fat
Sugar
Chocolate
Garlic
Ice Cream (?)
Gravy
Nicotine
Alcohol
Rolaids

Any thoughts on including or not including Ice Cream?

Isn't Chinese a food group?

638 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:08:30am

re: #633 midwestgak

Did you Spell Check that?///

Speelcheek be fur weemps!

639 doppelganglander  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:08:30am

re: #625 Gella

Lizards have any of you seen Mary Poppins, i am looking for reviews.

Friends of mine took their young kids to see it in New York. They said it was absolutely amazing.

640 MandyManners  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:08:45am

re: #625 Gella

Lizards have any of you seen Mary Poppins, i am looking for reviews.

Julie Andrews rocks.

641 Desert Dog  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:08:52am

re: #630 Nevergiveup

18:35 Arab League Chief: Recognition of Israel in exchange for peace - not possible (Ch. 10)

How about them apples Obama? Keep that in mind when you give that speech in Egypt soon.

He will still give that speech and still convince himself that HE and HE ALONE can solve this problem. What makes these politicians think they can go into that pit of despair and walk away with anything more than frustration?

642 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:09:13am

re: #634 wrenchwench

I saw the movie with Julie Andrews in 1964. I loved it, but I was 6, so not much of a critic. Is that the one you're thinking of?

i was thinking of going to theater tonight, ohh choices we have
i can also go and see 12th night, but for some reason i feel like musicle and comedy theater tonight

643 legalpad  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:09:41am

re: #625 Gella

Lizards have any of you seen Mary Poppins, i am looking for reviews.

Standard Disney kids movies, as good as any. All my kids saw it.

644 Desert Dog  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:09:44am

re: #634 wrenchwench

I saw the movie with Julie Andrews in 1964. I loved it, but I was 6, so not much of a critic. Is that the one you're thinking of?

I watched that with my little guy a few years back. And, I have determined Dick Van Dyke has THE WORST fake English accent ever.

645 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:10:00am

re: #641 Desert Dog

He will still give that speech and still convince himself that HE and HE ALONE US Tax Dollars can solve this problem. What makes these politicians think they can go into that pit of despair and walk away with anything more than frustration?

FTFY

646 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:10:11am

we also have this play, so far i am not sure
[Link: www.chicagoshakes.com...]

647 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:10:30am

re: #641 Desert Dog

He will still give that speech and still convince himself that HE and HE ALONE can solve this problem. What makes these politicians think they can go into that pit of despair and walk away with anything more than frustration?

Arrogance and ignorance. And in this case throw in a ton of inexperience.

648 SixDegrees  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:10:30am

re: #603 bloodnok

Troll ought to be in there. :)

You left off pork. I was up at 3:00 am this morning firing up the smoker and loading it up with cherry wood, hickory and pork shoulder. In about an hour, several racks of ribs go in. And I've got some maple-cured bacon to toss in the tater salad.

"A wonderful, magical animal!"

Homer Simpson on the pig

649 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:11:20am

re: #586 Walter L. Newton

I hope my industry never goes there. There's worry about it, but it's not there yet....

650 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:11:42am

re: #602 ggt
OF COURSE ICE CREAM! But y'all left out a MAJOR FOOD GROUP: PIZZA!
Good morning to you ggt!

651 bloodnok  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:11:44am

re: #634 wrenchwench

I saw the movie with Julie Andrews in 1964. I loved it, but I was 6, so not much of a critic. Is that the one you're thinking of?

I can only remember the scene with all the animated critters. If one was a blue jay could it be called Poppins' Jay?

/(just seeing if Sharm is around)

652 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:11:48am

re: #648 SixDegrees

You left off pork. I was up at 3:00 am this morning firing up the smoker and loading it up with cherry wood, hickory and pork shoulder. In about an hour, several racks of ribs go in. And I've got some maple-cured bacon to toss in the tater salad.

"A wonderful, magical animal!"

Homer Simpson on the pig

You are an evil, cruel, sadistic person.....
My mouth is watering.

653 itellu3times  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:11:52am

re: #636 BigPapa

Hobbies can be great!

When it comes to work, however, the valuation process can call for some guts and serious negotiation - with a smile, of course.

Sounds like you've got the perspective on it, hope it delivers for everyone.

654 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:11:58am

re: #641 Desert Dog

He will still give that speech and still convince himself that HE and HE ALONE can solve this problem. What makes these politicians think they can go into that pit of despair and walk away with anything more than frustration?

Wasn't there a pit of despair in The Princes Bride?

655 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:12:33am

re: #612 yma o hyd
Hey, good afternoon yma! How are you feeling today?

656 debutaunt  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:13:52am

re: #654 midwestgak

Wasn't there a pit of despair in The Princes Bride?

Yes, it foretold the 2008 election.

657 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:13:54am

re: #654 midwestgak

Wasn't there a pit of despair in The Princes Bride?

658 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:13:56am

re: #648 SixDegrees

You left off pork. I was up at 3:00 am this morning firing up the smoker and loading it up with cherry wood, hickory and pork shoulder. In about an hour, several racks of ribs go in. And I've got some maple-cured bacon to toss in the tater salad.

"A wonderful, magical animal!"

Homer Simpson on the pig

Dude! Like..... Duuuuude! That sounds so good.

659 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:14:09am

re: #615 jcm Did you know that there are no remains of Vietnam Veterans in the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier - cause the DoD says all remains have been identified.
The fact that there are over 1,000 Vietnam soldiers still MIA doesn't seem to count.

660 SixDegrees  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:14:14am

re: #625 Gella

Lizards have any of you seen Mary Poppins, i am looking for reviews.

You mean the Julie Andrews/Dick vanDyke version, I assume.

Great movie. A little syrupy for adults, maybe, but a great family flick. One of the very few movies I actually own.

And as long as we're talking about Julie Andrews, I will also heartily recommend The Sound of Music as a film that has absolutely everything a great film should: outstanding songs, a love triangle, teenage angst, another conflicted romance, engaging children - and Nazis.

661 SixDegrees  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:15:16am

re: #644 Desert Dog

I watched that with my little guy a few years back. And, I have determined Dick Van Dyke has THE WORST fake English accent ever.

Actually, your opinion of his accent is universal. It is the Gold Standard for horrid English accents the world over.

662 jaunte  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:15:20am

re: #625 Gella

Lizards have any of you seen Mary Poppins, i am looking for reviews.

Here are a few:
[Link: chicagotheaterblog.com...]

663 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:15:43am

Slow news day

664 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:15:58am

re: #659 realwest

The Vietnam Era another sad part of our history the left seem anxious to relive.

665 Desert Dog  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:16:07am

re: #654 midwestgak

Wasn't there a pit of despair in The Princes Bride?

yep....but that is a fictional one, the one in the middle east is real.

.....That's a great movie btw

666 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:17:16am

re: #665 Desert Dog

yep....but that is a fictional one, the one in the middle east is real.

.....That's a great movie btw


What's your take on the one appearing in Washington DC?

667 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:17:16am

re: #620 doppelganglander
Um, Rep. Paul Broun is up for re-election in 2010 and methinks he knows his constituents and to hell with the Constitution or historical facts.

668 debutaunt  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:17:18am

re: #664 soxfan4life

The Vietnam Era another sad part of our history the left seem anxious to relive.

It was their activist heyday.

669 pingjockey  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:17:26am

re: #657 jcm
Didja see the mess on I-90 last night? If y'all would stay on YOUR side of the mountains that shit wouldn't happen!
BTW, good morning all, remember to honor/thank a vet this weekend, please.

670 rightside  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:17:37am

re: #664 soxfan4life

More and more, our WWII heroes are leaving this life. The greatest generation will be gone for good. I pray its memory never gets co-opted by the left.

671 legalpad  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:17:45am

re: #633 midwestgak

Word origin maybe.

672 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:17:51am

re: #657 jcm

Perfect! Thanks for the post.

673 Desert Dog  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:18:35am

re: #666 soxfan4life

What's your take on the one appearing in Washington DC?


The despair levels are off the charts....we need a new despairometer

674 debutaunt  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:18:50am

re: #669 pingjockey

Didja see the mess on I-90 last night? If y'all would stay on YOUR side of the mountains that shit wouldn't happen!
BTW, good morning all, remember to honor/thank a vet this weekend, please.

I'm going to personally thank my husband.

675 soxfan4life  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:19:02am

re: #670 rightside

More and more, our WWII heroes are leaving this life. The greatest generation will be gone for good. I pray its memory never gets co-opted by the left.


For apologizing to the Japanese William Jefferson Clinton should be forced to kiss every one of their asses.

676 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:19:10am

re: #670 rightside

More and more, our WWII heroes are leaving this life. The greatest generation will be gone for good. I pray its memory never gets co-opted by the left.

It already has. I mean, don't ya know, that was the GOOD War?

677 pingjockey  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:19:44am

re: #674 debutaunt
Thank you!

678 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:19:52am

re: #661 SixDegrees

Actually, your opinion of his accent is universal. It is the Gold Standard for horrid English accents the world over.

Speaking of the Gold Standard, what year did Nixon take our nation away from it?

679 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:19:55am

re: #675 soxfan4life

For apologizing to the Japanese William Jefferson Clinton should be forced to kiss every one of their asses.

What did he apologize to them for?

680 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:19:56am

re: #659 realwest

Did you know that there are no remains of Vietnam Veterans in the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier - cause the DoD says all remains have been identified.
The fact that there are over 1,000 Vietnam soldiers still MIA doesn't seem to count.

They had one, but identified him.
Lt. Michael Joseph Blassie

It's not likely we'll have another one, with DNA testing.

There should be something at the Tomb.

At this point we'll not get resolution for our MIA, but we still owe them the effort to find as many as we can and bring them home.

681 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:20:00am

Folks, I'm back briefly.

I think I've decided that I'd like to go ahead a reassemble the LGF prayer list. It's an important list for a lot of us here, and I'm more than happy to volunteer to be the new keeper.

Does anyone have a copy of her last prayer list, and would anyone like me to add to the new one?

You can post it here or email, my nic is blue.

682 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:21:16am

re: #669 pingjockey

Didja see the mess on I-90 last night? If y'all would stay on YOUR side of the mountains that shit wouldn't happen!
BTW, good morning all, remember to honor/thank a vet this weekend, please.

Drysiders in a hurry to get home, yeah that's the story and I'm sticking to it!

// wetsiders drive like a bunch of idiots.

683 rightside  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:21:40am

re: #681 Irish Rose

I know you can look at her most recent comments (the former keeper of the list, who shall remain nameless) I believe it was May 14th, and you can go to those posts. I don't want to link to them here, since that persons account has been blocked.

684 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:21:41am

re: #681 Irish Rose

Coordinate with RW, he said up thread he'd work on it too.

685 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:21:42am

re: #616 midwestgak

You are one of a kind {real}.

Got distracted by laundry.

What happened to goddess?

686 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:21:43am

re: #681 Irish Rose

Folks, I'm back briefly.

I think I've decided that I'd like to go ahead a reassemble the LGF prayer list. It's an important list for a lot of us here, and I'm more than happy to volunteer to be the new keeper.

Does anyone have a copy of her last prayer list, and would anyone like me to add to the new one?

You can post it here or email, my nic is blue.

FYI - Realwest said up thread he was going to maintain it.

687 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:21:47am

re: #664 soxfan4life
Yeah, well I served in Vietnam and they can have it.

688 Gella  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:23:18am

re: #682 jcm

Drysiders in a hurry to get home, yeah that's the story and I'm sticking to it!

// wetsiders drive like a bunch of idiots.

LOL, don't even start with me, ya don't forget about chronic road construction :((( irritating
i am just wondering how long will it take me to get to downtown tonight

689 midwestgak  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:23:34am

re: #685 ggt

Got distracted by laundry.

What happened to goddess?

Check the threads from the past few days. It's loaded with answers.

690 pingjockey  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:23:38am

re: #682 jcm
I'm so glad that when I go to a Seahawks or Mariners game I-90 let's me out right there at the stadiums. I drove in SoCal for 14 years and the Seattle I-5, I-90 drivers are idjits compared to the pros on the freeways around LA and San Diego!

691 doppelganglander  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:23:59am

re: #681 Irish Rose

Folks, I'm back briefly.

I think I've decided that I'd like to go ahead a reassemble the LGF prayer list. It's an important list for a lot of us here, and I'm more than happy to volunteer to be the new keeper.

Does anyone have a copy of her last prayer list, and would anyone like me to add to the new one?

You can post it here or email, my nic is blue.

Irish Rose, thank you. That's a lovely idea. I've already got an entry for you here.

692 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:24:30am

re: #669 pingjockey Good morning ping! Um, actually Memorial Day is to honor those veterans who have died in the service of our nation.
But going up to active duty types and thanking them for their service (and buying 'em lunch or a beer or whatever is certainly encouraged!).

693 MandyManners  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:24:46am

re: #681 Irish Rose

Folks, I'm back briefly.

I think I've decided that I'd like to go ahead a reassemble the LGF prayer list. It's an important list for a lot of us here, and I'm more than happy to volunteer to be the new keeper.

Does anyone have a copy of her last prayer list, and would anyone like me to add to the new one?

You can post it here or email, my nic is blue.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

694 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:24:50am

re: #686 Walter L. Newton

FYI - Realwest said up thread he was going to maintain it.

It doesnt really matter which one of us does it, only that we keep it going. My son is still serving in harms' way and I want to make sure that he is covered in prayer by friends.

RW? Realwest?

695 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:25:31am

re: #670 rightside

More and more, our WWII heroes are leaving this life. The greatest generation will be gone for good. I pray its memory never gets co-opted by the left.


And it won't as long as WE don't let it be co-opted by the LEFT.

696 pingjockey  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:25:52am

re: #692 realwest
I know, tha't why I said Honor first. We had our Memorial Day Parade Thursday in Chelan, always a nice turnout.

697 pingjockey  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:26:27am

re: #692 realwest
BTW...Good morning!

698 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:27:25am

re: #689 midwestgak

Check the threads from the past few days. It's loaded with answers.

oh my!

I don't have the patience how, dealing with ancient computer and I'm frustrated.

Well have to come to a consensus on the Lizard Food Groups another day.
Have a great day all!

699 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:27:46am

re: #693 MandyManners


Do we have parts 2 and 3?

700 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:28:08am

re: #681 Irish Rose
I already have it covered Irish Rose. Don't sweat it.
See my #610.

701 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:28:42am

re: #690 pingjockey

I'm so glad that when I go to a Seahawks or Mariners game I-90 let's me out right there at the stadiums. I drove in SoCal for 14 years and the Seattle I-5, I-90 drivers are idjits compared to the pros on the freeways around LA and San Diego!

One thing they did do pretty well, freeway access to the stadiums.

702 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:29:03am

re: #693 MandyManners
Um, please see my #610 and I've already updated it as well.

703 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:29:49am

re: #700 realwest

I already have it covered Irish Rose. Don't sweat it.
See my #610.

Okee dokee, have at it good buddy :).

704 pingjockey  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:29:54am

re: #701 jcm
Yeppers. I see y'all are going to have a heat wave this weekend, 75 degrees!

705 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:31:24am

re: #691 doppelganglander
Hey doppelganglander - I've already updated The List to include FBV and your sad loss, but would appreciate you're providing her first name for The List.

706 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:32:02am

I'm grateful that the prayer list was saved, it burns me considerably that it was tossed aside and abandoned by the previous "keeper" like some worn out old soccer ball.

707 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:33:35am

re: #706 Irish Rose
Um, actually it wasn't. For some reason I had trouble copying and pasting the three parts so I e-mailed her and she sent it to me as a Word document attachement.

708 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:34:09am

Realwest, if something happens or you feel like you can't monitor the list for a while due to a temporary setback, please email me right away and I'll keep it in your absence.

709 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:35:27am

re: #707 realwest

Um, actually it wasn't. For some reason I had trouble copying and pasting the three parts so I e-mailed her and she sent it to me as a Word document attachement.


/ how very thoughtful

710 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:36:24am

re: #708 Irish Rose
Thank you very much Irish Rose! I'm thinking of e-mailing it to you just in case - are you at the same e-mail addy and if not, could you e-mail me with your new one?
It doesn't much matter to me who keeps it, but as I said I've already updated it and intend to publish it as comments on Memorial Day.
Thanks again!

711 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:37:28am

re: #710 realwest

Thank you very much Irish Rose! I'm thinking of e-mailing it to you just in case - are you at the same e-mail addy and if not, could you e-mail me with your new one?
It doesn't much matter to me who keeps it, but as I said I've already updated it and intend to publish it as comments on Memorial Day.
Thanks again!

Same email address, yup.

712 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:38:28am

re: #704 pingjockey

Yeppers. I see y'all are going to have a heat wave this weekend, 75 degrees!

My lawn needs mowing to, in that heat!

I don't know if I'll survive!

// ;-)

713 pingjockey  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:41:40am

re: #712 jcm

Mwahahaha! BTW, got another email from Lee Technologies about a job in Redmond. The problem is you have to be able to get to the site in 2 hours of being called in! Still haven't heard anything about the Quincy job, yet! The are the facilities management corp for Microsoft.

714 realwest  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:41:43am

re: #711 Irish Rose
Thanks!

715 Irish Rose  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:42:33am

I'm really out for the day this time, later folks :)>

716 pingjockey  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:43:45am

re: #715 Irish Rose
Have a good weekend!

717 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:44:07am

re: #713 pingjockey

Mwahahaha! BTW, got another email from Lee Technologies about a job in Redmond. The problem is you have to be able to get to the site in 2 hours of being called in! Still haven't heard anything about the Quincy job, yet! The are the facilities management corp for Microsoft.

Good luck on the job hunt.

718 pingjockey  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:46:12am

re: #717 jcm

Thanks muchly. If the job in Redmond didn't entail being on call on off days I'd consider moving myself there and going home on days off. Haven't heard back about that yet. Oh well, thinking positive thoughts here.

719 callahan23  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:46:16am

See you all later, I am off to watch 'Wolverine'.
Thanks {Irish Rose} and {realwest} for keeping up the work on the prayer list.

720 pingjockey  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:47:24am

I am going up thread!

721 rightside  Sat, May 23, 2009 9:52:35am

I think Rose would make the perfect "alternate" keeper of the list. All in favor? Aye!

The ayes have it. Congrats to Irish Rose!

722 tradewind  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:07:07am

Ewwww. Not so much, excpt maybe to the Mama kangaroo! Now here is a cute baby...
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723 Kenneth  Sat, May 23, 2009 5:13:00pm

Oh Noes Charles! Not another insanely cute baby animal thread! As a long time reader with 3 posts over the past 4 years, I must insist the Comnist Obama is plotting the ruin of the Amerikkkan banking system, and Islamic infiltrators are peeking over my hedge, so isn`t it time you put aside your petty differences with ugly baby animals and support them too? Or maybe a thread about the need to return to the gold standard and a picture of a homely naked mole rat or his cousin?

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724 dak  Sat, May 23, 2009 6:48:43pm

There's a reason why they are supposed to be in a pouch! ICK.

725 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 7:52:04pm

re: #723 Kenneth

That was freakin' hysterical Kenneth! Tardy ding!


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