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1 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:22:29pm

Fresh and clean.

2 Syrah  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:23:13pm

The only absolute truth can be purchased by the bottle. Of course, once you drain the bottle, truth becomes a little fuzzy and you may find that you have developed some serious doubts about gravity as the room begins to spin.

3 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:23:56pm

In the name of Lizardom I hereby declare this thread to be Troll Free.

Well, we can hope, can't we? ;)

4 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:24:38pm

Hm... I find the truth between syrah and pinot to be relevant.

5 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:24:44pm

re: #2 Syrah

The only absolute truth can be purchased by the bottle. Of course, once you drain the bottle, truth becomes a little fuzzy and you may find that you have developed some serious doubts about gravity as the room begins to spin.

*urp* I need 'nother drink!

6 JacksonTn  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:25:34pm

re: #3 FurryOldGuyJeans

In the name of Lizardom I hereby declare this thread to be Troll Free.

Well, we can hope, can't we? ;)

FOGJ ... ha ha ... you spoke too soon ... well, maybe not a troll .. I am done with him so you guys will have to take it on ... ya'll can post better than I can anyway ...

7 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:26:05pm

On that note, I'm going to go open a bottle. Syrah or pinot? Choose wisely....

8 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:26:38pm

You guys done trashing AB? I had to fuss over Mrs BP.

9 JacksonTn  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:27:01pm

Oh, man ... is it tomorrow already ...

10 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:27:14pm

re: #7 BigPapa

On that note, I'm going to go open a bottle. Syrah or pinot? Choose wisely....

Booze, distilled.

11 Syrah  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:27:17pm

re: #7 BigPapa

On that note, I'm going to go open a bottle. Syrah or pinot? Choose wisely....

Choose both.

Some truths are best shared with friends.

12 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:27:43pm

I read a book by Ashley Montagu 40 years ago. I don't remember the title. Anyone?

13 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:28:03pm

re: #8 BigPapa

You guys done trashing AB? I had to fuss over Mrs BP.

A troll is only done when they are a greasy stain on the floor and walls.

14 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:28:42pm

I've done some crazy things. And then I've done some crazy things. But I've never drank pinot, syrah, and tequila. All at the same moment.

15 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:29:10pm

And that's the absolute truth.

16 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:30:29pm

re: #15 BatGuano

And that's the absolute truth.

I disagree, that (pointing in the opposite direction) is the absolute truth.

17 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:31:47pm

What is the proper funerary rite for a dead and defunct microwave oven? My tried and true gave up the ghost earlier this afternoon.

*Sigh* no more popcorn, no more hot pockets.

18 Syrah  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:32:05pm

re: #14 BigPapa

I've done some crazy things. And then I've done some crazy things. But I've never drank pinot, syrah, and tequila. All at the same moment.

*Gasp!*

Heavens forfend!

Savor separately. Each is joy unto itself. Mixing them would be sinful.

19 Syrah  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:32:44pm

re: #17 FurryOldGuyJeans

What is the proper funerary rite for a dead and defunct microwave oven? My tried and true gave up the ghost earlier this afternoon.

*Sigh* no more popcorn, no more hot pockets.

If you have a boat, you now have an anchor.

20 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:32:56pm

re: #15 BatGuano

And that's the absolute truth.

Spell check?

Absolut Truth?

21 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:32:57pm
Absolute truth belongs only to one class of humans ... the class of absolute fools.

— Ashley Montagu

"Are you sure about that?"

"Absolutely!"

22 JacksonTn  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:33:16pm

I swear ... I think I have spent almost a hundred bucks tonight on itunes tonight ... are they getting to me or what ... they make it too easy ... do I get an itunes bailout .. just wondering ...

23 IslandLibertarian  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:34:16pm

Absolute truth belongs only to one class of humans ... the class of absolute fools.


And just because you believe something doesn't make it true.

/but of course, we all knew that, right?

24 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:34:35pm

re: #17 FurryOldGuyJeans

What is the proper funerary rite for a dead and defunct microwave oven? My tried and true gave up the ghost earlier this afternoon.

*Sigh* no more popcorn, no more hot pockets.

Out to the woods, put it out of it's misery with multiple rounds from a variety of firearms. Then deposit it in the appropriate conveyance to the dump.

25 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:36:35pm

re: #16 FurryOldGuyJeans

I disagree, that (pointing in the opposite direction) is the absolute truth.

I think the absolute truth is a circular construct having many facets and yet no sides; a malleable commodity with form yet an amorphous identity. In short, I'm sure we were all thing along the same lines.

26 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:38:04pm

re: #20 jcm

Spell check?

Absolut Truth?

Yeah. That's more like it. :)

27 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:39:37pm

For Syrah, a syrah. Probably won't be really good until tomorrow's glass, but smells good right now.

In anybody was shocked at my statements, I would never mix pinot, syrah, and tequila. In the same glass. With a big glass of water between, I could enjoy all three in one night. Sipping, of course.

28 jcm  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:42:10pm

Night Honcos!

"No political truth is certainly of greater intrinsic value, or is stamped with the authority of more enlightened patrons of liberty than that on which the objection is founded. The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
James Madison 1788 - Federalist No. 48

29 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:42:28pm

re: #25 BatGuano

I think the absolute truth is a circular construct having many facets and yet no sides; a malleable commodity with form yet an amorphous identity. In short, I'm sure we were all thing along the same lines.

Absolute truth is like a ice cream bar left out in the sun for 30 minutes.

30 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:42:57pm

re: #28 jcm

Night Honcos!

"No political truth is certainly of greater intrinsic value, or is stamped with the authority of more enlightened patrons of liberty than that on which the objection is founded. The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
James Madison 1788 - Federalist No. 48

G'Night, jcm!

31 Syrah  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:43:38pm

re: #27 BigPapa

Looks like a good one.

I have seen that label around the local shops up here. I may give it a closer look next time.

32 Fenway_Nation  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:46:24pm

re: #30 gmsc

So what happened on this day in 1964?

33 ArchangelMichael  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:46:32pm

Sharmuta posted a link back in the Skewed view of science thread to a site with maps showing different continental arrangements going back hundreds of millions of years of plate tectonics. I found one with better quality maps if anyone is interested.

34 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:46:49pm

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

So what happened on this day in 1964?

Absolutely nothing.

35 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:47:54pm

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

So what happened on this day in 1964?

On this day in 1964 I discovered my special purpose.

36 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:49:15pm

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

So what happened on this day in 1964?

Madeline Dassault was kidnapped, and Pablo Picasso painted his fourth Head of a Bearded Man.

Note: Those tooke place on May 23, 1964. Hey, where I am, it's still May 23rd!

37 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:49:21pm

re: #33 ArchangelMichael

Thank you: Bookmarked it.

38 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:50:45pm

re: #35 BatGuano

On this day in 1964 I discovered my special purpose.

...and your special purpose is?

39 ArchangelMichael  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:52:13pm

re: #37 BatGuano

You're welcome. I just wish I could find one that was interactive and/or animated.

40 wiffersnapper  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:52:42pm

You're absolutely right, Charles! ;)

41 JacksonTn  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:53:45pm

Hope all of ya'll have a great rest of the weekend ...

the last song I am listening to tonight ... I love all types of music ... this kinda reminds me of something that might be in Kill Bill movie ... anyway ... actually it is a kinda sexy song ...

Good Night Lizards ...

42 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:54:34pm

re: #38 gmsc
Here 'tis.

43 eddiespaghetti  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:55:30pm
44 gmsc  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:55:53pm

re: #39 ArchangelMichael

You're welcome. I just wish I could find one that was interactive and/or animated.

Try Science On A Sphere!

45 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:58:01pm

re: #31 Syrah

Give one a try. They're big and rich. Decant em and drink em a little warmer...

46 Kronocide  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:58:27pm

re: #33 ArchangelMichael

Nice find!

47 BatGuano  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:58:29pm

re: #39 ArchangelMichael

You're welcome. I just wish I could find one that was interactive and/or animated.

Those would be great but what you posted helps to understand evolutionary discoveries and putting them in geographic perspective.

48 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 23, 2009 11:58:30pm

Good evening, Lizards!
Happy Memorial Day Weekend.
I'm grilling, and you?

49 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, May 24th:

Highlights of this day in history: Samuel Morse opens America's first telegraph line; Four men sentenced for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; Britain's Queen Victoria born; The Brooklyn Bridge opens; Singer-songwriter Bob Dylan born

Other notable May 24th events include:

1830 – "Mary Had a Little Lamb" by Sarah Josepha Hale is published.

1830 – The first revenue trains in the United States begin service on the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad between Baltimore, Maryland and Ellicott's Mills, Maryland.

1895 – Henry Irving becomes the first personage from the theatre to be knighted.

1940 – Igor Sikorsky performs the first successful single-rotor helicopter flight.

1956 – The first Eurovision Song Contest is held in Lugano, Switzerland.

1976 – The London to Washington, D.C. Concorde service begins.

1990 – A car carrying American Earth First! activists Judi Bari and Darryl Cherney explodes in Oakland, California, critically injuring both.

50 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:00:03am

re: #48 Floral Giraffe

Good evening, Lizards!
Happy Memorial Day Weekend.
I'm grilling, and you?

Working. :(

51 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:01:03am

re: #48 Floral Giraffe

Good evening, Lizards!
Happy Memorial Day Weekend.
I'm grilling, and you?

Just finished two consecutive days of working retail during a Vegas Memorial Day weekend!
(*collapses*)

52 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:02:11am

Just Sayin:

53 Kronocide  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:02:11am

re: #48 Floral Giraffe

Drinking a fat syrah right now. Wish I had some grilled cow or lamb to go with it.

54 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:02:36am

West coast time, that is..

55 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:04:15am

damn, embedding disabled, by request...

56 Kronocide  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:04:41am

I wonder how many fossils are buried under ice in Antarctica. Must be massive fossil beds if we could find them.

57 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:05:26am

re: #56 BigPapa

I wonder how many fossils are buried under ice in Antarctica. Must be massive fossil beds if we could find them.

Probably some interesting ones – they've already found an underground sea with living creatures under Antarctica!

58 Throbert McGee  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:06:35am

re: #7 BigPapa

On that note, I'm going to go open a bottle. Syrah or pinot? Choose wisely....

My favorite libations rhyme with "crotch," "frisky," and "turban." But when I'm drinking wine, I go with syrah (although I call it "shiraz").

/pours self another shot of "turban"

59 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:06:50am

re: #50 BatGuano

Working. :(

Be glad you have a job.

60 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:07:40am

re: #55 eddiespaghetti

I just clicked again and it came up. Still listening/watching.

61 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:08:16am

re: #59 FurryOldGuyJeans

Be glad you have a job.

Trust me, I am. :)

62 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:09:18am

Going to California, with a 24B deficit, I don't think this is what they were going for:

63 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:09:58am

re: #57 gmsc

Quit right. I could have guessed that you keep with the literature.

64 Kronocide  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:10:08am

re: #58 Throbert McGee

I looooove shiraz. And spirits with color, especially ones that rhyme with the words you stated. Strange.... coincedence? Hm...

What would we do without yeast? No spirits, no fluffy bread or dough, crappy cake. Wonderful stuff.

65 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:10:44am

re: #60 BatGuano

Sorry, U tube in persnickity. Linky to the Cali 24B Linky..

66 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:11:21am

re: #50 BatGuano

re: #51 gmsc

A job is a job, and the pay is the pay!
Congratulations on both!
I do hope you get some time off for the holiday?
Or maybe holiday pay is better?

67 Throbert McGee  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:11:52am

re: #17 FurryOldGuyJeans

What is the proper funerary rite for a dead and defunct microwave oven? My tried and true gave up the ghost earlier this afternoon.

*Sigh* no more popcorn, no more hot pockets.

Did you know you can make popcorn on the stovetop, and hot pockets in the oven? Yes, for reals!

68 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:13:29am

re: #67 Throbert McGee

Did you know you can make popcorn on the stovetop, and hot pockets in the oven? Yes, for reals!

The devil you say!

69 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:14:12am

Cali is dazed and confuzed! And I like it!

70 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:14:17am

We're going to have ice cream now.

mbbl

71 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:14:56am

re: #67 Throbert McGee

Did you know you can make popcorn on the stovetop, and hot pockets in the oven? Yes, for reals!

You, sir, are a HERETIC! FIE ON THEE! ;)

72 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:15:27am

re: #66 Floral Giraffe

Holiday pay be good! I still see my wife after work (that's always good).

73 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:15:51am

re: #66 Floral Giraffe

re: #51 gmsc

A job is a job, and the pay is the pay!
Congratulations on both!
I do hope you get some time off for the holiday?
Or maybe holiday pay is better?

In my case, the holiday pay was better!
:)

74 Rich H  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:16:20am

That there is no absolute truth is in itself an absolute truth.

75 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:17:50am

re: #69 eddiespaghetti

That's some kinda hair going on!

76 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:18:20am

re: #72 BatGuano

indeed!

77 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:18:28am

re: #74 Rich H

That there is no absolute truth is in itself an absolute truth.

Certainty Site: The Tour

78 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:19:32am

re: #75 Floral Giraffe

I wish I had the courage to wear that kind of hair!

79 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:22:13am

re: #78 eddiespaghetti

I wish I had the courage to wear that kind of hair!

You think you had a bad hair day?

80 Throbert McGee  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:22:37am

re: #64 BigPapa

I looooove shiraz. And spirits with color, especially ones that rhyme with the words you stated. Strange.... coincedence? Hm...

What would we do without yeast? No spirits, no fluffy bread or dough, crappy cake. Wonderful stuff.

Um, cake as we think of it in America is seldom (or never) yeast-raised -- rather, it uses baking powder, or baking soda, or beaten egg whites to create the little air bubbles needed for a light, tender texture.

And when it comes to bread products, traditional biscuits as well as Irish soda bread are made without yeast -- as are pancakes, waffles, and muffins.

But you're right that yeast is essential for making alcohol!

81 pink freud  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:22:54am

Woot's running a one day on that little Asus EeePC 900 Netbook, for $149.99 + $5 shipping if anyone here's been watching them. Refurb. Linux xandros.

82 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:23:09am

re: #79 FurryOldGuyJeans

You think you had a bad hair day?

What the hell is that!?

83 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:23:24am

Over The Hills and Far Away:

84 Karridine  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:24:14am

Before the day trickles past, here's a short essay to Charles and to this Day...

He does such good work... I LOVED the VDO on Science and Bias

85 pink freud  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:24:58am

Hello, goodevening to all, and best wishes for a nice Memorial Day.

86 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:25:03am

re: #78 eddiespaghetti

I wish I had the courage to wear that kind of hair!

Here's some courage for ya!

87 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:25:43am

re: #82 BatGuano

What the hell is that!?

Your guess is as good as mine, but I think it is supposed to be a dog.

88 Kronocide  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:25:48am

re: #80 Throbert McGee

Oh ya, right about cake. Not my expertise. Need for pizza dough, almost as important as alchohol!

89 Kronocide  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:26:37am

re: #86 FurryOldGuyJeans

that eagle sure looks askerd to me...

90 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:28:47am

R U kidding me with the hair? This takes tha cake, and it rules!

ttp

91 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:32:17am

re: #89 BigPapa

that eagle sure looks askerd to me...

How about this Eagle? Do you think he looks scared?

92 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:33:09am

re: #87 FurryOldGuyJeans

Your guess is as good as mine, but I think it is supposed to be a dog.

I thought...cat. Then I thought... Oh I don't know what I thought!

93 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:34:55am

re: #87 FurryOldGuyJeans

That's a blogging hampster! Doing it's thang!

94 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:37:39am

re: #89 BigPapa

that eagle sure looks askerd to me...

I think the Eagle is thingking.. Here kitty, kitty!

95 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:37:50am

Sleep well friends, if a "durka" has a spare F-4 Phantom and decides to crash it into a nuclear reactor....

Nothing to fear, its all good:

96 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:38:52am

Mmmmk, thread killer!
So, I'll go back to reading my latest book.
Marine Sniper
93 confirmed kills
By Charles Henderson.
I like it do far.
'Twas an LGF recomend.

97 Macker  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:39:35am

re: #95 eddiespaghetti

FRAK! No sound!

98 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:41:00am

re: #97 Macker

FRAK! No sound!

It went CRASH BOOM!

99 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:42:17am

re: #88 BigPapa

Unless you're one of those freakin' degenerates who actually like pineapple on their pizza.

100 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:42:32am

re: #96 Floral Giraffe

Me gotta read.

101 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:44:26am

I know this guy, what an asshole:

102 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:45:44am

re: #96 Floral Giraffe

Is " Marine Sniper" the title?

103 Crux Australis  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:47:31am

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

Unless you're one of those freakin' degenerates who actually like pineapple on their pizza.

You obviously haven't been to Australia.

104 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:47:47am

re: #101 eddiespaghetti

That looked dangerously low. You know him?

105 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:49:06am

re: #104 BatGuano

indeed, not dangerous. I assure u!

106 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:53:04am

Vapes are for show!

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

Its easy!

107 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:53:37am

re: #103 Crux Australis

Don't you guys put kangaroo on your pizzas?

108 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:54:21am

re: #100 BatGuano

I'm liking it, so far!

109 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:54:29am

re: #105 eddiespaghetti

I'll take you word it.

110 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:55:24am

re: #109 BatGuano

Tank U!

111 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:55:34am

re: #107 Fenway_Nation

Don't you guys put kangaroo on your pizzas?

Or Kiwis?

112 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:56:54am

re: #111 gmsc

Or Kiwis?

Mmmm, Kiwi, Tastes like chicken.

113 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:57:09am

re: #112 BatGuano

Mmmm, Kiwi, Tastes like chicken.

Or shoe polish.

114 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:58:26am

re: #113 BatGuano

Or shoe polish.

Cordovan....mmmmm.

115 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:58:40am

re: #102 BatGuano

Amazon linky!
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

116 theheat  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:58:41am

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

What's the matter with pineapple on pizza? It's good!

117 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:59:54am

Good night, lizards! Stay scaly!

118 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:00:17am

re: #116 theheat

agreed, love it, plus Jalepenos!

119 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:00:37am

re: #117 Floral Giraffe

Good night, lizards! Stay scaly!

G'Nite, FG!

120 theheat  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:00:47am

re: #118 eddiespaghetti

And lots of mushrooms cooked until they're just starting to curl on the edges.

121 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:01:01am

re: #117 Floral Giraffe

Good night, lizards! Stay scaly!

Goodnight Floral! I'm getting the book.

122 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:08:26am

Tarawa:


OK, its Memorial day, give him some slack!
123 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:08:34am

re: #120 theheat

And lots of mushrooms cooked until they're just starting to curl on the edges.

yeah, there's lots that works on pizza except avocado.......just doesn't work.

124 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:10:43am

love hate love, heroin and shit:

125 theheat  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:10:47am

re: #123 IslandLibertarian

Absolutely, avocado is too mushy. Artichoke hearts are pretty good, though, especially over some goat cheese with lots of sun dried tomatoes.

Come to think of it, I'm starving.

126 eddiespaghetti  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:11:11am

Spaghetti is out!

127 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:12:00am

re: #125 theheat

Come to think of it, I'm starving.

you're not really hungry, it's just the bong talking.

128 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:12:07am

re: #116 theheat

Something sweet like pineapple is better off as a dessert or crushed into juice and served chilled with some Kamchatka vodak.

129 theheat  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:15:55am

re: #127 IslandLibertarian

No, really, I'm hungry. This snack mix I'm crunching on ain't doing it.

re: #128 Fenway_Nation

Sun dried tomatoes are good to offset the sweet, if you haven't tried it. I like a whole bunch of stuff on pizza.

I also like a lot of stuff with vodka ;-)

130 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:21:42am

re: #129 theheat

I have had sun-dried tomato on pizza before....that was pretty good.

131 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:22:07am

re: #129 theheat

How about cheese?

132 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:26:48am

The Gashlycrumb Tinies

133 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:27:23am

re: #131 BatGuano

Somebody mention

cheese?
134 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:28:05am

re: #133 BignJames

cheese?

135 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:29:37am

re: #133 BignJames

Somebody mention Youtube Video>

There was some talk of pizza which implies cheesy comestibles.

136 theheat  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:31:24am

I can't take it any more. I'm dashing into the kitchen to whip up something quick. I think we have stuff in the fridge to whip up a little mini pizza.

Be back when my stomach stops growling, unless I gorge and pass out...

137 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:39:46am

re: #134 BignJames

cheese?

I am going to pass on the maggot cheese (as tempting as it is), currently there is a young woman on the television who wants me to call her, it seems she is standing by waiting for my call.I will have to pass on said cheese. :)

138 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:42:21am

Where are some of the more heavy-hitter lizards who trade like Killian Bundy, 3wood or chicagodudewhotrades?

I'm thinking about investing in some of those Royalty trusts north of the border that are listed on the TSX. Wondering how feasable/worthwhile it might be.........

139 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:49:43am

re: #132 gmsc

I'm sleeping with the lights on tonight.

140 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:51:14am

re: #139 BatGuano

I'm sleeping with the lights on tonight.

"B is for BatGuano . . ."
;)

141 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:54:15am

re: #140 gmsc

"B is for BatGuano . . ."
;)

On second thought... I'm staying awake all night. :0

142 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:59:00am

re: #141 BatGuano

On second thought... I'm staying awake all night. :0

Ooops!

Did a a'skeer you?

143 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:59:23am

Here's something better:

"F is for fruitcup . . ."

144 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 1:59:35am

I'll be fine as soon as I get fruit cup. Hint, hint.

145 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

146 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:00:16am

re: #142 gmsc

Oh, hell yeah!

147 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:00:34am

Jeez! I'm cooking as fast as I can!

148 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:01:32am

re: #145 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

Thank you littleoldlady. Just in time. gmsc was trying to skeer me.

149 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:02:39am

BatGuano! :-)

There, there...

/pat, pat

150 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:03:19am

re: #145 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

Yummy! Thanks!

I tried to cheer him up after I skeered him, though!

151 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:04:18am

re: #145 littleoldlady

Awesome....I even see there's some pineapple! Who's pizza did you rescue those from?

152 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:05:51am

re: #145 littleoldlady

Needs some Absolute Sweetening.

153 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:06:02am

gmsc! :-)

Fenway! :-)

Is picking pineapple off a pizza the same as peter piper picked a peck of pickles?

154 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:06:34am

laZardo! :-)

155 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:06:38am

re: #153 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

Fenway! :-)

Is picking pineapple off a pizza the same as peter piper picked a peck of pickles?

Or eating a crate of eighty rated grade-A dates?

156 freetoken  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:07:22am

re: #145 littleoldlady

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
!

Yaaayyyy...

Sure beats the pencils...

157 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:08:48am

freetoken! :-)

Shoulda covered it in chocolate! ;-)

158 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:09:14am

Thanks to gmsc, this is what I'm listening to.

159 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:09:42am

re: #152 laZardo

Needs some Absolute Absolut Sweetening.

You're thinking of Red's fruitcup.

Then again, it would be more like Absolut corn mash run through a carbeurator multiple times fruitcup.

160 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:10:21am

Where IS red, btw?

161 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:12:21am

re: #158 BatGuano

Thanks to gmsc, this is what I'm listening to.


[Video]

So, if zombie were here, you'd be listening to gmsc jamboree?
;)

162 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:13:52am

re: #161 gmsc

If there was one, hell yeah! :)

163 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:15:27am

re: #159 Fenway_Nation

You're thinking of Red's fruitcup.

Then again, it would be more like Absolut corn mash run through a carbeurator multiple times fruitcup.

Well, I was channeling him for a bit there. (-%

164 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:16:44am

re: #162 BatGuano

If there was one, hell yeah! :)

Here are probably the two closest things to a "gmsc jamboree" (the first one is even a cappella!):

165 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:19:39am

Where IS red, btw?

166 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:20:14am

re: #165 littleoldlady

Where IS red, btw?

Last I saw him, he was eating his own fruitcup and . . . OH NO!

/////

167 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:20:27am

Morning folks..... another day, another dollar (waiting impatiently for very slow coffee maker)

168 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:20:39am

re: #164 gmsc

I'm getting "tensor" everyday?

169 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:20:46am

Well lizards......can't keep my eyes open for much longer, so I think I'll just go ahead and-


*THUD*

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

170 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:21:04am

re: #167 srb1976

Morning folks..... another day, another dollar (waiting impatiently for very slow coffee maker)

G'morning, srb? How's the little srb?

(That doesn't sound quite right, but you get the idea.)

171 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:21:19am

re: #169 Fenway_Nation

Well lizards......can't keep my eyes open for much longer, so I think I'll just go ahead and-

*THUD*

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

G'Nite, Fenway!

172 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:21:35am

'Morning, srb1976! :-)

'Night, Fenway! :-)

173 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:22:05am

re: #169 Fenway_Nation

Well lizards......can't keep my eyes open for much longer, so I think I'll just go ahead and-

*THUD*

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Good night. I shall soon follow.

174 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:23:14am

re: #170 gmsc

G'morning, srb? How's the little srb?

(That doesn't sound quite right, but you get the idea.)

Both of the littles are doing quite well = ). I am taking their pictures to the grocery store this evening after work to see if I can have them put on better half's birthday cake.

(running out of gift ideas though....birthday, father's day, anniversary...all next month)

175 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:24:25am

re: #174 srb1976

Both of the littles are doing quite well = ). I am taking their pictures to the grocery store this evening after work to see if I can have them put on better half's birthday cake.

(running out of gift ideas though....birthday, father's day, anniversary...all next month)

Should've married in August . . . nothing ever happens in August!

176 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:25:55am

Just before I leave, another ear worm courtesy of gmsc, :) I love it!

177 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:26:21am

re: #175 gmsc

Should've married in August . . . nothing ever happens in August!

That's the truth, but august is much too hot for formal wear...couldn't imagine the guy standing around in a tux in the nasty muggy heat (got married in iowa...august is awful)

178 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:30:37am

Yay, coffee's done....anybody want a cup?

179 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:31:01am

Good night lizards! Stay ectothermic,

180 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:31:39am

re: #179 BatGuano

Good night lizards! Stay ectothermic,

Sleep well, BatGuano! Enjoy any Yellow Birds you catch!

181 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:32:31am

'Night, BatGuano! :-)

re: #178 srb1976

Yes, PLEASE!

/intravenously should do it

182 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:32:38am

re: #177 srb1976

That's the truth, but august is much too hot for formal wear...couldn't imagine the guy standing around in a tux in the nasty muggy heat (got married in iowa...august is awful)

Which is the reason nothing happens in August!

///Weather today: Muggy, followed by Tuggy, Wiggy, Thurggy and Friggy.

183 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:33:13am

re: #182 gmsc

Are those TeleTubbies?

184 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:36:26am

re: #181 littleoldlady

'Night, BatGuano! :-)

Yes, PLEASE!

/intravenously should do it


I've had days like that! Cup of coffee I hope that works....if not, I blame not enough coffee

185 Mardukhai  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:36:57am

Ashley Montagu was an asinine creep who frequented the late night talk shows of the 1960s, as I recall. Born Israel Ehrenberg, he was a pretentious jerk from London's East End who adopted a false posh accent.

186 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:37:57am

re: #181 littleoldlady

'Night, BatGuano! :-)

Yes, PLEASE!

/intravenously should do it

That reminds me of an episode of M*A*S*H where their generator is stolen, and they have to rig up a Wangensteen suction machine made of tubing, a mustard jar and a pickle relish jar.

After Radar comments how ingenious the device is, B.J. responds, "And very handy if we ever want to put him on intravenous hot dogs!"

187 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:38:31am

re: #184 srb1976

Yah, that's good. THANKS! :-)

188 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:38:53am

re: #182 gmsc

///Weather today: Muggy, followed by Tuggy, Wiggy, Thurggy and Friggy.

re: #183 littleoldlady

Are those TeleTubbies?

No – they're plays on days of the week: "Monday, followed by Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday."

189 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:40:30am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Are those TeleTubbies?

Teletubbies are evil (fortunately little man's teletubby phase was very short and Her Royal Stoutness could care less about the tv, it doesn't giver her chocolate, therefore it's not worthy of her attention = ) )

190 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:42:51am

re: #186 gmsc

HA!

191 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:43:35am

re: #189 srb1976

Listen, I lived through Barney.

/somehow
//I think

;-)

192 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:44:48am

re: #189 srb1976

Teletubbies are evil (fortunately little man's teletubby phase was very short and Her Royal Stoutness could care less about the tv, it doesn't giver her chocolate, therefore it's not worthy of her attention = ) )

If a baby isn't into Teletubbies by the time they're 1 month old, the show will be beneath their intelligence.

193 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:45:36am

re: #191 littleoldlady

Listen, I lived through Barney.

/somehow
//I think

;-)

Barney was never allowed in the house....he saw it @ daycare, but not enough to start a craze.....besides, he went straight from teletubbies to disney movies and hot wheels...funny kid, but really easy on us

194 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:47:31am

re: #193 srb1976

Barney was never allowed in the house....he saw it @ daycare, but not enough to start a craze.....besides, he went straight from teletubbies to disney movies and hot wheels...funny kid, but really easy on us

Sounds like some smart kids!

195 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:49:11am

re: #194 gmsc

Sounds like some smart kids!

We like to think so, also that they are gorgeous and perfect and could never do anything wrong = )

Lots of fun too!

196 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:50:07am

re: #191 littleoldlady

I did. Parents even accumulated a collection of the VHSes, including the older ones where he was more lavender-colored.

/might have implanted subliminal scaly urges underneath the episode-ending melody...

197 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:50:24am

re: #195 srb1976

Oh boy.

/I miss those days.

;-)

198 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:51:59am

Good night, all!

Time for some shut-eye.

199 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:52:03am

re: #196 laZardo

It's one thing for a child to watch Barney, it's something completely different when a parent does.

/brain cells? WHAT brain cells?!

200 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:52:20am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

201 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:54:06am

re: #197 littleoldlady

Oh boy.

/I miss those days.

;-)

As bad as it sounds, I find that the older they get, the more fun they are. Babies are cute and sweet and precious, but really not much fun... toddlers though are a blast! Little man will be 5 in a few months, and I catch myself thinking "this is the reason I wanted kids". Baby girl gets more fun every day, esp. now that she's started sticking up for herself, and ratting her brother out....better than cable any day

202 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:00:06am

re: #191 littleoldlady

How about a Scooby Doo marathon every day?

203 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:00:34am

re: #201 srb1976

MNTS was the same - a rather boring baby, a FABULOUS toddler. In fact, things were super up until age 9 then it was downhill for many years. We started turning things around about a year ago, or so.

The good news is...I STILL HAVE HAIR!

/I really thought I was going to be a bald mommy! ;-)

204 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:01:48am

re: #202 BignJames

BignJames! :-)

Aw come on! Scooby Doo is FAR superior to Barney!

/I don't remember wanting to shoot my TV when Scooby Doo was on...

205 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:02:25am

re: #199 littleoldlady

Adding that third main dino was jumping the ankylosaurus IMO. 0:

206 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:03:53am

re: #205 laZardo

I think we "graduated" from Barney before that happened.

/THANK YOU, LORD!

207 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:04:09am

re: #203 littleoldlady

MNTS was the same - a rather boring baby, a FABULOUS toddler. In fact, things were super up until age 9 then it was downhill for many years. We started turning things around about a year ago, or so.

The good news is...I STILL HAVE HAIR!

/I really thought I was going to be a bald mommy! ;-)

I have rather long curly hair...no matter what I do, every child I meed who is under 3, feels the need to try to yank it out....my 2 more than most. even tied back in a pony tail, baby girl will spend hours trying to make sure I am bald headed....but any mention of getting it cut short sends better half into a tizzy.

I cut enough off to donate right after baby girl was born, and he complained for months....but she still tried her hardest to pull it all out. I don't need stress to go bald = )

208 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:05:15am

meed ... should be meet....early typing.....need more coffee!

209 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:05:47am

re: #207 srb1976

You'll get it anyway. :-/

/prepare yourself!

210 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:08:05am

re: #209 littleoldlady

hopefully not til after some of what they've pull out grows back! I even tried wearing necklaces, hoping they would pull on them instead...no dice, hair is better! Ouch!

211 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:08:49am

re: #210 srb1976

Watch the dangle earrings!

212 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:11:51am

re: #211 littleoldlady

thankfully I've never been a dangle earring person....they tangle up in the hair (so do necklaces)

I think I'm just growing it out to donate again anyway...that's a great feeling! if you're willing to part with 14" or so of hair at a time

213 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:13:24am

re: #212 srb1976

My daughter did it her last haircut.

/you're right - it IS a great feeling :-)

214 littleoldlady  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:17:58am

Time for me to rock and roll... :-/

/WAKE UP, littleoldlady!

Good day, ALL!™

215 srb1976  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:18:47am

Have a great day!

216 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:19:58am

re: #214 littleoldlady

Cheeeers!

217 freetoken  Sun, May 24, 2009 3:37:50am

/* crickets */

218 Mithrax  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:18:41am

re: #217 freetoken

/* crickets */

By Jiminy!

219 Ojoe  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:35:49am
220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:42:59am
BEIJING (May 23) - Chen Fuchao, a man heavily in debt, had been contemplating suicide on a bridge in southern China for hours when a passer-by came up, shook his hand — and pushed him off the ledge.

Chen fell 26 feet onto a partially inflated emergency air cushion laid out by authorities and survived, suffering spine and elbow injuries, the official Xinhua News Agency said Saturday.

heh...

221 SteveC  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:01:06am

Good morning!

TRUTH: Living on the East Coast and coming to Colorado for a few days leaves your body wondering WTF time it is! I'm sleeping at strange times, and I haven't really been hungry yet. I'm just trying to stay on a "normal" eating schedule.

Yesterday I walked up to the Boulder Farmer's Market and bought some HUGE cherries! Delicious, too! Wound up walking around almost all day - just took everything slow and easy, pretty sure I walked 2 miles, at least. Knock on wood, I'm not having any problems adjusting the the altitude.

Saw several individuals selling left leaning publications ("Know the Troof!") but all in all people are friendly. Saw a guy balanced on a rocker board juggling knives, resisted the urge to call 1822. Somehow he did it and retained all his original body parts!

(call 1822? Yeah, call 911... TWICE!)

222 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:08:48am

Fox reported that during an interview with C-SPAN, FCBBHO said he has turned to Pres. Bush for advice.

HA1

223 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:08:57am

!

224 SteveC  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:14:48am

re: #222 MandyManners

Fox reported that during an interview with C-SPAN, FCBBHO said he has turned to Pres. Bush for advice.

HA1

Little more difficult than you thought, ain't it?

Kinda wonder why he hasn't leaned on his buddy Bill Clinton. Might not be possible: I keep hearing that there's some friction between O and Mrs. Clinton, and when momma ain't happy, NOOOOOOOOOBODY'S happy!

225 yochanan  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:15:13am

re: #221 SteveC

if you want to adjust to hight go to santa fe, n.m. it is a couple of thousand feet higher than denver

226 yochanan  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:15:53am

re: #223 MandyManners

?

227 Aye Pod  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:18:04am

Scissor Sisters - Comfortably Numb LIVE

Awesome, arguably definitive, version of a classic song :D

228 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:19:57am

re: #224 SteveC

Little more difficult than you thought, ain't it?

Kinda wonder why he hasn't leaned on his buddy Bill Clinton. Might not be possible: I keep hearing that there's some friction between O and Mrs. Clinton, and when momma ain't happy, NOOOOOOOOOBODY'S happy!

I wonder how long before some extreme lefties claim that Pres. Bush, V.P. Cheney and Karl Rove are STILL in control. Or, as David Icke would say, that FCBBHO is just another tool of the Illuminati.

229 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:20:19am

re: #226 yochanan

?

HA1 should've been HA!.

230 SteveC  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:23:03am

re: #225 yochanan

if you want to adjust to hight go to santa fe, n.m. it is a couple of thousand feet higher than denver

No reason, I'll be heading home Wednesday. I came to help cheer on a group of friends in the Bolder Boulder 10K.

231 formercorpsman  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:27:55am

re: #222 MandyManners

We have not heard one word from Bush since he left office.

To me, that shows a sign of respect for the office.

232 SteveC  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:28:00am

re: #229 MandyManners

HA1 should've been HA!.

The HA1, gentlemen. Finest insult weapon yet. Colbalt blue, weighs about a pound, easy grips. Pull the trigger and you can hit everyone in range with a sneering snort. Flip this switch, you're in Kennedy/Kerry mode, which add a pretensious New England accent to your charge. Devestating. Now, what am I bid?

233 formercorpsman  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:29:20am

Everyone have a good morning. Coffee time.

To my brethren fore and aft, thank you.

234 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:30:34am

re: #231 formercorpsman

We have not heard one word from Bush since he left office.

To me, that shows a sign of respect for the office.

We don't need Pres. Bush. We have V.P. Cheney.

235 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:31:10am

re: #232 SteveC

The HA1, gentlemen. Finest insult weapon yet. Colbalt blue, weighs about a pound, easy grips. Pull the trigger and you can hit everyone in range with a sneering snort. Flip this switch, you're in Kennedy/Kerry mode, which add a pretensious New England accent to your charge. Devestating. Now, what am I bid?

One bagel with cream cheese, sprouts and diced, red onion.

236 SteveC  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:35:23am

BTW, we have an entrant in the Rubber Duckie race. Everybody pull for number 611 on Monday afternoon!

/why yes, we do have a duck in this race!

237 saberry0530  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:36:00am

re: #232 SteveC

The HA1, gentlemen. Finest insult weapon yet. Colbalt blue, weighs about a pound, easy grips. Pull the trigger and you can hit everyone in range with a sneering snort. Flip this switch, you're in Kennedy/Kerry mode, which add a pretensious New England accent to your charge. Devestating. Now, what am I bid?

2 Quatlos.

238 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:38:05am

Morning Lizards ... I just got one of those come-ons from the NY Times to resume my subscription, which I dropped about 4-5 years ago. They sent a form and a postage paid envelope. And I do what I always do when I get one of these. I write a note to them and let them pay for the postage. I love giving them "feedback" and making them pay the USPS for the privilege of reading my "kind" words.

239 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:39:52am

re: #222 MandyManners

Fox reported that during an interview with C-SPAN, FCBBHO said he has turned to Pres. Bush for advice.

HA1


I hope Dubya said something like "when Israel takes out iran's nukes, back them up."

240 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:41:22am

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

heh...

Apparently, the would-be leaper had traffic over the bridge at a dead stop for over five hours, and his "rescuer" had had enough. This is like the eighth such attempt from this particular bridge in the last few weeks, and every time it causes major traffic snarls.

241 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:45:23am

re: #224 SteveC

Little more difficult than you thought, ain't it?

Kinda wonder why he hasn't leaned on his buddy Bill Clinton. Might not be possible: I keep hearing that there's some friction between O and Mrs. Clinton, and when momma ain't happy, NOOOOOOOOOBODY'S happy!

The Clinton's are the current Administration's enemy. They are angling their way back into the White House, and if an opportunity for undermining presents itself, they would love for that to happen in four years rather than eight. Hillary was brought on board under the old adage, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."

There was apparently a quid pro quo concerning Bill, too. Bill has been yapping about ascending to a UN position since he left the White House - he really wants to become Secretary General, as unlikely as that is. Just last week, 0 announce that he was nominating Bill to the first step on this trail: UN ambassador.

To Haiti.

Somehow, I doubt that's the posting Slick had in mind.

242 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:48:36am

While creating a Word document as part of The Kid's summer review, I came across these phrases:
Order Property of Addition,
Grouping Property of Addition,
Identity Property of Addition,
Commutative Property of Multiplication,
Associative (Grouping) Property of Multiplication,
Identity Property of Multiplication,
Zero Property of Multiplication and
Distributive Property of Multiplication.

He knows what all these mean, as well as what a frequency table is and what is an inverse operation, and about 50 more words/phrases/concepts such as mean, mode, range and median. I didn't learn those until I was in junior high!

So, I'm gonna' hafta' do a lot of studying myself just to be able to help him review and to help him next year. I figured I'd be hiring a tutor for him but, I reckoned it'd happen when he hit junior high--not the fourth grade. WTF is up with this?

243 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:49:38am

re: #239 _RememberTonyC

I hope Dubya said something like "when Israel takes out iran's nukes, back them up."

I'm glad Pres. Bush didn't cackle into the phone before he hung up.

244 dmandman  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:51:20am

Are links to Flopping Aces blocked? I was trying to post a link to their Sunday Funnies feature today and I got a block message.

245 rightside  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:51:47am

re: #242 MandyManners

Now that his meds are adjusted, have him tested for the gifted program.

246 rightside  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:54:39am

re: #227 Jimmah

BeeGees meets Pink Floyd.

247 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:58:06am

re: #245 rightside

Now that his meds are adjusted, have him tested for the gifted program.

These are things that everyone should know by the end of the third grade. Also, the difference between deducting and inferring and the like.

248 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:58:47am

re: #227 Jimmah

Scissor Sisters - Comfortably Numb LIVE


[Video]Awesome, arguably definitive, version of a classic song :D

pretty funny...dico Floyd

249 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:59:40am

re: #247 MandyManners

These are things that everyone should know by the end of the third grade. Also, the difference between deducting and inferring and the like.

Ducks don't have fur.

250 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:00:36am

re: #242 MandyManners

While creating a Word document as part of The Kid's summer review, I came across these phrases:
Order Property of Addition,
Grouping Property of Addition,
Identity Property of Addition,
Commutative Property of Multiplication,
Associative (Grouping) Property of Multiplication,
Identity Property of Multiplication,
Zero Property of Multiplication and
Distributive Property of Multiplication.

He knows what all these mean, as well as what a frequency table is and what is an inverse operation, and about 50 more words/phrases/concepts such as mean, mode, range and median. I didn't learn those until I was in junior high!

So, I'm gonna' hafta' do a lot of studying myself just to be able to help him review and to help him next year. I figured I'd be hiring a tutor for him but, I reckoned it'd happen when he hit junior high--not the fourth grade. WTF is up with this?

Hmmm. I would doubt that a fourth grader would have the abilities to understand and apply these concepts. They're abstract in themselves, and they apply to an abstract topic. It's not harmful to expose them to the terms, but I don't see any real education taking place here. It seems more like some "educator's" attempt to claim that they are teaching "advanced" mathematics.

The central tendency measures (mean, mode, average, etc.) aren't so bad; they are simple to compute, and can be applied to tangible problems, even if they're not fully understood until later.

251 lawhawk  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:03:03am

re: #227 Jimmah

Blasphemer! /

252 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:03:03am

Obama: We're out of money

No problemo dude, just print some more!

253 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:03:48am

re: #249 Kenneth

Ducks don't have fur.

Good thing 'cause they'd smell bad hanging out in all that water.

254 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:05:12am

re: #250 SixDegrees

Hmmm. I would doubt that a fourth grader would have the abilities to understand and apply these concepts. They're abstract in themselves, and they apply to an abstract topic. It's not harmful to expose them to the terms, but I don't see any real education taking place here. It seems more like some "educator's" attempt to claim that they are teaching "advanced" mathematics.

The central tendency measures (mean, mode, average, etc.) aren't so bad; they are simple to compute, and can be applied to tangible problems, even if they're not fully understood until later.

I think it's just an introduction to those concepts but, The Kid can explain them and give examples. I've never heard of some of them.

255 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:09:34am

re: #252 Kenneth

Obama: We're out of money

No problemo dude, just print some more!

His responses to the interviewer's questions are a huge, steaming pile of cluelessness. It is extremely disturbing reading his trivializations of people's suffering into a political equation that starts and ends with "Everyone's made bad decisions and mistakes until I came along," and then provides no actual answers.

Fortunately, the guy has no power to make law. The only hope to rein in spending and keep the government aimed in a generally sane direction is through Congress, particularly the Senate. That's where we ought to be focusing our efforts. There are enough Democrats and Republicans willing to commit to fiscal responsibility to build an effective coalition, if both sides are willing to put partisanship aside.

256 3 wood  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:09:35am

I see where Obama admits that the deficit is unsustainable and that we are out of money.

Watch now as the MSM allows him to pretend that he and the Democrats are not responsible for this, but blames Bush for everything. .

257 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:10:01am

re: #253 MandyManners

LOL. Youngsters are scary sometimes. My 4 yr old knows the difference between sauropods and ceratopian dinosaurs. Makes me feel like an old codger sometimes.

258 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:10:57am

re: #254 MandyManners

I think it's just an introduction to those concepts but, The Kid can explain them and give examples. I've never heard of some of them.

OK. I could be wrong; childhood education isn't one of my specialties. If he seems to understand these things conceptually, that's a good thing and I'm glad to hear it.

259 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:12:43am

re: #256 3 wood

I see where Obama admits that the deficit is unsustainable and that we are out of money.

Watch now as the MSM allows him to pretend that he and the Democrats are not responsible for this, but blames Bush for everything. .

Actually, in the article linked about 0 is already blaming Bush for everything, as you predict. And he never quite gets around to saying that the projected deficits are unsustainable; he only acknowledges that we are now out of money.

And that's before anything as outrageously expensive as nationalized health care hits the menu.

260 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:13:01am

re: #255 SixDegrees

Obama doesn't communicate' he fends, evades and deceives.

It's the narcissist in him speaking.

261 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:15:45am

Question for 3 Wood:

With the value of the dollar slipping, and the threat of inflation rising, at what point do the Chinese step in and bail out the US by buying more Treasury bills? Or do they give up hope and dump what debt they now hold to cut their losses?

262 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:16:39am

re: #257 Kenneth

LOL. Youngsters are scary sometimes. My 4 yr old knows the difference between sauropods and ceratopian dinosaurs. Makes me feel like an old codger sometimes.

For some reason, The Kid never got into dinosaurs.

263 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:19:09am

re: #258 SixDegrees

OK. I could be wrong; childhood education isn't one of my specialties. If he seems to understand these things conceptually, that's a good thing and I'm glad to hear it.

This is standard fare for private schools around here. I wonder when he'll be getting into quadrilinear equations. Maybe I should find a mathematics professor to date....

264 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:19:57am

re: #252 Kenneth

Obama: We're out of money

No problemo dude, just print some more!

I read here, too, that there will be no bailout for California. This is a decision I applaud, if it is true. But it probably means that 0bama and Nancy aren't going to be BFFs for much longer.

265 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:20:23am

re: #260 Kenneth

Obama doesn't communicate' he fends, evades and deceives.

It's the narcissist in him speaking.

True communication requires an ability to admit you're not perfect as well as a spirit of humility.

266 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:21:18am

re: #264 SixDegrees

I read here, too, that there will be no bailout for California. This is a decision I applaud, if it is true. But it probably means that 0bama and Nancy aren't going to be BFFs for much longer.

Maybe this, in addition to her penchant for telling outrageous lies, will push the voters to boot her butt.

267 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:22:17am

This didn't take long .... The NYC jihadis are saying they were set up ...

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

They WERE set up ... by their perverted sense of faith ...

268 Aye Pod  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:24:40am

re: #246 rightside

BeeGees meets Pink Floyd.

Exactly : "Ha ha ha have become comfortably numb!"

269 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:26:21am

Gulags, Nukes and a Water Slide: Citizen Spies Lift North Korea's Veil

Mr. Melvin is at the center of a dozen or so citizen snoops who have spent the past two years filling in the blanks on the map of one of the world's most secretive countries. Seeking clues in photos, news reports and eyewitness accounts, they affix labels to North Korean structures and landscapes captured by Google Earth, an online service that stitches satellite pictures into a virtual globe. The result is an annotated North Korea of rocket-launch sites, prison camps and elite palaces on white-sand beaches.

Amazing stuff!

270 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:28:22am

re: #263 MandyManners

This is standard fare for private schools around here. I wonder when he'll be getting into quadrilinear equations. Maybe I should find a mathematics professor to date....

Math is good. You can't ever have too much math, in my opinion. I took a minor in it along with my bachelor's degree, and although I rarely make use of anything more advanced than algebra, the exposure to more advanced mathematics definitely makes you think about things in a different way.

My approach to my own kid's math homework, and all their other topics, is to make them explain it to me, while providing barely enough help to get them over the rough spots. They do better when they come to understand it on their own, rather than being spoon-fed the answers. It's helpful, too, to keep them focused on what the problem they're trying to solve actually, is, and whether their answers make sense in terms of that. If their answer winds up stating that a chicken weighs more than two elephants, I would guess that there is something wrong somewhere.

The "something wrong," though, can often be the math teacher. Your son's in a private school, so this is probably not so much an issue, but in the public schools there is no requirement at all that teachers in charge of a mathematics class have any background in mathematics, and they are sometimes incapable of solving the problems they assign to their students; instead, they compare students answers to the answers provided in the course curriculum materials, without any understanding.

But I'm working myself into a rant if I keep going down that road, so I'll stop now.

271 lawhawk  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:28:47am

re: #267 _RememberTonyC

They were saying they were set up from the get-go.

Except no one forced them to go forward with jihad. No one told them to pick targets. No one told them to buy weapons. No one told them to say that they wished they could have hit the WTC, but for al Qaeda already blowing it up.

No, they're going to get what they so richly deserve - still more prison time...

272 3 wood  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:30:24am

re: #261 Kenneth

With the value of the dollar slipping, and the threat of inflation rising, at what point do the Chinese step in and bail out the US by buying more Treasury bills? Or do they give up hope and dump what debt they now hold to cut their losses?

With the dollar slipping, the Chinese and other foreign capital sources have no reason to buy US Treasuries, as they lose wealth relative to their own currency when the dollar slips.

So... we will have to offer a very high interest rate to make it worth their while to hold or even buy more treasuries.

Therefore, we will have a very high interest and inflation rate in the foreseeable future.

This will also serve to drain capital from the stock market, as you will be able to get a very high return for less risk in fixed income.

I've already instructed my broker to be ready to shift my portfolio much more heavily into fixed as interest rates climb.

273 Aye Pod  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:30:55am

re: #248 albusteve

pretty funny...dico Floyd

An 'original' cover, you might say. Pretty accomplished too. And guaranteed to make purists heads pop (I know people this wouldn't be safe to show to...lol).

274 3 wood  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:31:24am

re: #264 SixDegrees

I read here, too, that there will be no bailout for California. This is a decision I applaud, if it is true. But it probably means that 0bama and Nancy aren't going to be BFFs for much longer.

I know he says that now, but don't be surprised if he flip flops on that.

275 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:32:21am

re: #267 _RememberTonyC

They got their educations in Islam and jihad in a N.Y. prison from a radical Muslim chaplain paid by the state of New York. That's a separate scandal brewing under the surface for which N.Y. state officials, including Governor Paterson and Mayor Bloomberg, are responsible.

276 lawhawk  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:32:59am

re: #256 3 wood

Would Obama have it any other way? He's not going to take responsibility for his own bloated $3.4 trillion (and that's probably a conservative estimate).

Democrats refused to budget on entitlement reform of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, and the situation is getting worse by the day. That's on them.

The trillions spent without the money to back it up - deficit spending is out of control, and higher taxes is going to actually widen the gap because it will suck money out of the economy, rather than encourage spending.

Meanwhile, we keep seeing that government programs to help homeowners has fallen flat. Hope for Homeowners got one person out of the entire nation to adjust their mortgage. Other state and local programs are failures as well. The credit is out there - but people with bad credit shouldn't be getting mortgages, and that's just the hard economics. Congress wants to change all that - and the result is the "affordable housing" programs, which are anything but affordable - as witnessed by the trillions lost in real estate when the bubble burst and not the trillions more being spent to prop up that sector.

277 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:33:19am

Good Morning Lizards...Heading out to the track in 30 minutes..
I would like to deeply thank all the men and women who gave their full measure for our country and our precious freedoms today.
May they rest in Peace..And may God bless their souls.

278 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:34:19am

re: #274 3 wood

Obama will bail out California once Arnold and the rest of state government have submitted to him. That process already is well under way.

279 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:34:22am

six hot air balloons have launched from the property next to mine...they are stalled right over my bunkhouse about 300ft up there....beautiful morning in ABQ, but there is not even a breeze

280 lawhawk  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:34:34am

re: #275 quickjustice

The radical Islamists proselytizing in prisons began long before Paterson. It was starting years before - back in Pataki's day, along with Spitzer. I'm sure with enough looking, it was present during Cuomo's day.

281 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:35:26am

re: #266 MandyManners

Maybe this, in addition to her penchant for telling outrageous lies, will push the voters to boot her butt.

I doubt it, although I would welcome her departure. However, I would strongly oppose any sort of bailout for states, especially California.

California had a huge economic boom thanks to the software and hardware growth over the last 30 years in Silicon Valley and across the rest of the state. They splurged in their new-found wealth by enacting a huge raft of entitlement programs and pie-in-the-sky regulations, from free college tuition to regulations on weeding your garden. Now that economic hard times have hit, none of these programs can be paid for. Schwarzenegger went to the state legislature and asked them for cuts in non-essential programs; the legislature flat-out refused to cut even a dime from the budget. Then he went to the voters, noting that if no one was willing to cut spending, it would be necessary to raise taxes to keep paying for all this fluff. Voters, themselves strapped by a flood of dismal economic circumstances, flatly rejected this request. So now it falls to Schwarzenegger to make cuts where he can, with the limited powers available to him as Governor. Mostly, this only enables him to close selected facilities, like prisons, state police posts and firefighting facilities.

Under these circumstances, a bailout would be unthinkable. Don't even try to come after my tax money while you're still spending state funds on a huge pile of bullshit that you can easily and reasonably do without.

282 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:37:08am

re: #270 SixDegrees

Math is good. You can't ever have too much math, in my opinion. I took a minor in it along with my bachelor's degree, and although I rarely make use of anything more advanced than algebra, the exposure to more advanced mathematics definitely makes you think about things in a different way.

My approach to my own kid's math homework, and all their other topics, is to make them explain it to me, while providing barely enough help to get them over the rough spots. They do better when they come to understand it on their own, rather than being spoon-fed the answers. It's helpful, too, to keep them focused on what the problem they're trying to solve actually, is, and whether their answers make sense in terms of that. If their answer winds up stating that a chicken weighs more than two elephants, I would guess that there is something wrong somewhere.

The "something wrong," though, can often be the math teacher. Your son's in a private school, so this is probably not so much an issue, but in the public schools there is no requirement at all that teachers in charge of a mathematics class have any background in mathematics, and they are sometimes incapable of solving the problems they assign to their students; instead, they compare students answers to the answers provided in the course curriculum materials, without any understanding.

But I'm working myself into a rant if I keep going down that road, so I'll stop now.

That's why I'll need to hire a tutor sooner or later.

As far as teachers go, they all have at least an Masters. Students won't be changing classrooms for another year or so which means that the teachers are able to teach all the subjects.

One bright spot is that I'm a writer and love the English language. Sure, my grammar is not perfect but, it's good enough for now.

283 3 wood  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:37:56am

Some good news mixed in with a lot of "maybe's":

Goods Orders, Home Sales Probably Rose: U.S. Economy Preview

May 24 (Bloomberg) -- Orders for durable goods and home sales probably rose in April as the worst U.S. recession in at least half a century started to loosen its grip, economists said before reports this week.

Bookings for goods meant to last several years increased 0.4 percent, the second gain in three months, according to the median forecast in a Bloomberg News survey ahead of a Commerce Department report May 28. Combined sales of new and existing homes likely advanced to a 5.02 million annual rate from a 4.93 million pace in March, other figures may show.

Stabilization in housing and manufacturing, the two areas suffering the biggest contractions, will help ease the economic slump. Still, gains will be difficult to sustain in coming months as banks remain hesitant to lend and unemployment climbs, underscoring projections from Federal Reserve officials and private economists that a recovery will be subdued.

“Evidence that the 16-month recession is coming to an end continues to build,” said David Resler, chief economist at Nomura Securities International Inc. in New York. “Home sales and building activity seem to be stabilizing and manufacturing surveys point to smaller production cuts and smaller job losses.”

284 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:38:07am

re: #277 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards...Heading out to the track in 30 minutes..
I would like to deeply thank all the men and women who gave their full measure for our country and our precious freedoms today.
May they rest in Peace..And may God bless their souls.


Amen Brother

285 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:38:56am

now there are 12 balloons....one looks like an Ocean Spray bottle...there are hardly moving at all

286 3 wood  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:39:57am

re: #281 SixDegrees

We are in an era of trying to transfer the pain to somebody else.

Only when the powers that be recognize that the paid is not avoidable will the solutions be forthcoming.

287 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:39:59am

re: #272 3 wood

With the dollar slipping, the Chinese and other foreign capital sources have no reason to buy US Treasuries, as they lose wealth relative to their own currency when the dollar slips.

So... we will have to offer a very high interest rate to make it worth their while to hold or even buy more treasuries.

Therefore, we will have a very high interest and inflation rate in the foreseeable future.

This will also serve to drain capital from the stock market, as you will be able to get a very high return for less risk in fixed income.

I've already instructed my broker to be ready to shift my portfolio much more heavily into fixed as interest rates climb.

Amen to that. I remember during the late 70s/early 80s recession when interest rates skyrocketed (different reasons, but similar results); it was possible to purchase 20-year CDs that bore double-digit interest rates. If I had had any dough at the time, I would have sunk it all into those instruments; they beat any historical stock market return, and they were as near to totally safe as it is possible to be. I'm preparing for their return, although these days most CDs are callable, which takes some of the shine off of them under such circumstances.

288 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:40:12am

re: #280 lawhawk

You're correct, of course. The WSJ had a front page article on radical Muslim chaplains in N.Y. prisons back in 2003. And City Journal ran this article back in 2006: [Link: www.city-journal.org...]

289 lawhawk  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:40:24am

re: #285 albusteve

We want pictures!

290 3 wood  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:40:28am

Breakfast time.

See you later.

291 Aye Pod  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:41:41am

Lunch time here.

292 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:42:03am

re: #274 3 wood

I know he says that now, but don't be surprised if he flip flops on that.

I wouldn't be surprised, either; he apparently has no grasp at all of economics, and doesn't understand that you can't keep running gargantuan deficits year after year after year with no end in sight and expect to ever regain economic health.

Once California goes on the dole, every other state will want their own slice of the pie, and will never stop to consider that there's really no pie in the first place.

293 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:42:12am

re: #289 lawhawk

We want pictures!

they are directly over my house all bunched up, waving to me....unreal

294 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:43:07am

re: #291 Jimmah

Lunch time here.

It's race day! Beer for breakfast, Chicken for lunch...

295 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:43:21am

re: #281 SixDegrees

regulations on weeding your garden

WTF?

Oops! I forgot that this is the state that floated the idea of regulating thermostats inside private residences.

296 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:44:21am

re: #289 lawhawk

We want pictures!

my ex is in Portland with my camera...bummer

297 Aye Pod  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:45:28am

re: #294 HoosierHoops

French toast for me. BBL

298 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:27am

re: #281 SixDegrees

"Those aren't weeds, they're indigenous botanical specimens!"

299 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:52am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (66 degrees going up to 72 degrees with lots of T-Storm activity predicted) cloudy Charlotte.
I hope everyone is doing well this morning!

300 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:48:18am

re: #294 HoosierHoops

It's race day! Beer for breakfast, Chicken for lunch...


Go Danica ...

301 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:49:18am

re: #285 albusteve

now there are 12 balloons....one looks like an Ocean Spray bottle...there are hardly moving at all


Cranberry Juice is the best

302 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:49:39am

Hey Y'all, I have a comment regarding the etiquette of Flying Old Glory - I know that you're not supposed to put it up if it's raining or snowing, but don't know if you're supposed to take it down if it starts raining after the Flag has been put up (obviously I'm not talking about folks who put the flag up all day every day here).
And yes I've checked the Flag Etiquette rules and couldn't find an answer so if any of you know and could help me out I'd appreciate it.

303 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:50:05am

Morning all.
Waiting to see which geniuses and masters of statecraft the Obama/Pelosi defense team trots out onto the talking head shows this morning.

304 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:52:36am

re: #302 realwest

Hey Y'all, I have a comment regarding the etiquette of Flying Old Glory - I know that you're not supposed to put it up if it's raining or snowing, but don't know if you're supposed to take it down if it starts raining after the Flag has been put up (obviously I'm not talking about folks who put the flag up all day every day here).
And yes I've checked the Flag Etiquette rules and couldn't find an answer so if any of you know and could help me out I'd appreciate it.

Morning, Realwest!
I don't know what the Flag Etiquette says.
But we bring ours in if it begins to rain.

305 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:52:43am

re: #302 realwest

We used to take it down in the rain (flag detail often had to scramble to get formed up when a storm came through). That was on base (US Army), but I assume it's universal..

306 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:52:54am

re: #301 _RememberTonyC

Cranberry Juice is the best

two are purple and white 'Curves'...another is a local eatery 'Little Anita's'...they are not really moving and burning alot of gas just to stay aloft...

307 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:53:40am

re: #302 realwest

Looks like it's dependent on the flag material:

Title 4, Chapter 1, Section 6 of the flag code states the time and occasions for flying the flag.

a. It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.

c. The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is inclement, except when an all-weather flag is displayed.


[Link: www.mjldomain.com...]

308 Nevergiveup  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:53:53am

re: #303 lincolntf

Morning all.
Waiting to see which geniuses and masters of statecraft the Obama/Pelosi defense team trots out onto the talking head shows this morning.

Will they have biggies today? With the long Memorial Day Weekend, all the bigshots may be sleeping in today?

309 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:54:56am

re: #308 Nevergiveup

Prob. right.
Oh well, maybe the second-stringers will be worth a few laughs.

310 Nevergiveup  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:56:23am

re: #309 lincolntf

Prob. right.
Oh well, maybe the second-stringers will be worth a few laughs.

On Fox it's Senators Kyle and Nelson?

311 Nevergiveup  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:57:00am

re: #309 lincolntf

Prob. right.
Oh well, maybe the second-stringers will be worth a few laughs.

Dickie Durbin on NBC

312 SixDegrees  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:57:23am

re: #286 3 wood

We are in an era of trying to transfer the pain to somebody else.

Only when the powers that be recognize that the paid is not avoidable will the solutions be forthcoming.

Mixed in with all that is the desire of politicians to use any crisis to further their own political ends and to expand their political power.

313 lawhawk  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:57:25am

re: #281 SixDegrees

The situation in CA is obscene because it's the result of decades of unsustainable government growth and spending. The politicians don't want to cut projects and programs because it would look bad, since they can't take the pork home to their constituents. Never mind that their constituents are getting fleeced at every turn by governments with their hands deep in their pockets.

Unfunded mandates fall on governments at all levels, and they must stop - if a program exists - the government that demands them must pay for them. If they don't the program can't go forward. That should be the law of the land for all levels of government.

It shouldn't fall on localities to fund programs that were imposed from the top without care for who pays for it (but then again, that's often the point - the feds want to show that they're doing something, but leave it to the localities to impose it).

314 Nevergiveup  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:57:49am

re: #309 lincolntf

Prob. right.
Oh well, maybe the second-stringers will be worth a few laughs.

And on CBS Former Secretary of State and current ingrate Colin Powell.

315 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:57:54am

re: #311 Nevergiveup

That's where I'm headed. He's more fun than a barrel of Murthas.

316 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:58:02am

re: #304 reine.de.tout
and
re: #305 lincolntf
and
re: #307 jaunte
Thank each of you very much! I do appreciate it - they are calling for intermittent showers (some T-Storms too) tomorrow, so if it's not "inclement" I'm putting her up tomorrow and will take her down if it does start to rain.
Thanks again to all of you.

317 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:01:43am

re: #316 realwest

and
re: #305 lincolntf
and
re: #307 jaunte
Thank each of you very much! I do appreciate it - they are calling for intermittent showers (some T-Storms too) tomorrow, so if it's not "inclement" I'm putting her up tomorrow and will take her down if it does start to rain.
Thanks again to all of you.

OK..Time to head out to the track...
Have a wonderful day lizards..And don't forget to say a prayer for our fallen hero's today..

318 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:03:16am

re: #316 realwest

Say, I was in your neck of the woods briefly last weekend. My son and I met my brother in law, father in law, and a group of his buddies to attend the Sprint All Stars race. It was a little sprinkly then, too.

319 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:03:25am

Oh and btw, if y'all would like to add a 1+1/4" by 1+1/4" flag to your desktop - you can get one here:
[Link: www.deskflags.com...]
They used to be free, but I guess the demand was so high (or Memorial Day so near!) that they are charging $3.99 for it. However you can change the speed at which it waives, make it darker or lighter on your desktop, move it around on your desktop and if you left click it, it'll play about 16 bars of the National Anthem!

320 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:04:39am

re: #319 realwest

Oh and btw, if y'all would like to add a 1+1/4" by 1+1/4" flag to your desktop - you can get one here:
[Link: www.deskflags.com...]
They used to be free, but I guess the demand was so high (or Memorial Day so near!) that they are charging $3.99 for it. However you can change the speed at which it waives, make it darker or lighter on your desktop, move it around on your desktop and if you left click it, it'll play about 16 bars of the National Anthem!

They have some free offers there "for a limited time" it says.

321 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:05:20am

re: #319 realwest

Did you know there are only 24 notes to taps? only 24.. The most powerful 24 notes I've ever heard

322 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:05:21am

Once again, the battle of the freakin' tie. First, it entails wearing an Oxford-cloth, button-down shirt and he detests that material. Next, I get the "Why do you wanna' torture me, Mom? It's gonna' choke me! When does the water-boarding begin?" After a few minutes of bickering about this, we reach the usual compromise of not buttoning the top button. Some days I could just scream.

323 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:06:17am

re: #318 jaunte Dang, wish you could have contacted me; love to meet you in person my friend!
And yeah, this time of year we get showers or sometimes pretty violent Thunderstoms (with truly horrific lightning and frequently hail the size of golf balls) several day each week. Should end in a week or two!

324 rain of lead  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:21am

For the fallen

325 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:25am

re: #320 reine.de.tout
LOL! Well my limited time is up to around 18 months now, so I don't know what "limited" means for them!

326 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:09:25am

re: #323 realwest

Yes, sorry about that. With all the scurrying around we were doing I simply didn't connect Charlotte the NASCAR destination together with Charlotte the realwest location.

327 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:11:20am

re: #321 HoosierHoops
Hi Hoops - yes and frankly I've heard TAPS played too often over too many of my friends and relatives to be able to listen to it again.
In fact, I've left directions in my will (I'll have to be buried in a military cemetery cause there isn't enough money to do otherwise) that Taps not be played and something else (which I'll reveal tomorrow) played - on a boom-box if necessary - in lieu thereof. Don't know if that will be allowed, but I'm gonna try.

328 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:12:25am

re: #326 jaunte That's ok juante - maybe next time!

329 Taqyia2Me  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:12:31am

re: #277 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards...Heading out to the track in 30 minutes..
I would like to deeply thank all the men and women who gave their full measure for our country and our precious freedoms today.
May they rest in Peace..And may God bless their souls.

May their sacrifice never be forgotten.

330 Summersong  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:13:40am

Shuttle to land in CA.

331 Bloodnok  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:13:41am

re: #321 HoosierHoops

Did you know there are only 24 notes to taps? only 24.. The most powerful 24 notes I've ever heard

And one of the hardest to play on a trumpet (no valves, all open notes so it's all done by lip muscle tightening). I played it once for a VFW funeral when I was a kid and it was freezing cold. I completely missed the highest note and it sounded like a bleat. It sounded horrible. I felt SO bad. The VFW guys didn't care (there were only about 10 people there) and told me it was okay, but I was shaken, thinking of the significance of the event. I never did it again.

332 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:14:07am
333 Summersong  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:14:13am

Robert Spencer on FOX news...

334 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:15:59am

re: #332 buzzsawmonkey
Good morning buzz! Sounds to me as if Land's End shirts are made in China!

335 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:16:38am

re: #333 Summersong
QUICK, CHANGE CHANNELS OR MUTE!

336 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:17:53am

Well y'all it's been great as usual but I gotta run - chores and all that.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

337 Bloodnok  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:18:07am

re: #333 Summersong

Robert Spencer on FOX news...

FOX News Channel's transformation is now complete.

Argh.

338 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:18:21am

Got my flag outside, been flying it all week long.

I'm the only one on the block showing a flag.

339 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:18:28am

re: #333 Summersong

...doing an ad for Jihadwatch.

340 Summersong  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:18:40am

re: #335 realwest

QUICK, CHANGE CHANNELS OR MUTE!

He's off now. How are you this morning, Realwest?

341 justdanny  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:18:44am

Morning good lizards.

Im a little confused.

I didnt work yesterday and,

I dont work today and then,

Im not working tomorrow.

Can this be true?

342 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:19:33am

re: #332 buzzsawmonkey

Moms who fight the tie battle should print that out and keep it for life.

343 Summersong  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:20:45am

re: #338 Alouette

Got my flag outside, been flying it all week long.

I'm the only one on the block showing a flag.

That is shocking to me. I'm glad your flag is flying.

344 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:21:01am
345 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:22:24am

re: #319 realwest

My Ol' Glory's been taped to the same position (proper-vertical) beside my laptop for...dang...I can't remember. @_@

/so has the upside-down sticker reading "Hello USA!" on my punk-rocker little bro's door.

346 justdanny  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:27:10am

About the flag. A nephew of mine currently serving his 21st year in the military has a tattoo of the flag that is so cool. On his upper arm there is what appears to be a a wound where some kind of animal has torn three open wounds open and the skin is peeled back. Beneath the open tears you can see Old Glory. Now thats cool.

347 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:28:31am
348 irongrampa  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:28:45am

re: #338 Alouette

Good morning, all.

You should see our road--there's flags on everyone's house. Great sight.

I'd like to think that was my doing, moved here last year, and the first thing done was to put the flag up. After a year, I see nearly everybody's flying one, today we ALL are.

349 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:30:06am

re: #332 buzzsawmonkey

BB does not have variable neck measurements for boys but, they do have broadcloth. The neck size is not too small--I can insert half of my hand into it once I get it buttoned. If he had to spend more than two hours a week in Oxford-cloth shirts, I'd buy shirts made of smoother material but, bitching is just his way of asserting power.

350 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:30:50am

re: #333 Summersong

Robert Spencer on FOX news...

Oh, fuck no.

351 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:32:11am

re: #344 buzzsawmonkey

I know Land's End makes them in a number of places, including Honduras. I think Brooks has fallen to having stuff made in Malaysia. Most of what we get here is made elsewhere.

Nonetheless, Brooks maintains better quality control than Land's End does. Also, Land's End has gone to the abomination of "no-iron cotton." I understand its appeal for people who are not willing to blow the money on having a laundry do one's shirts--but neither "no-iron cotton", which is, of course, treated, or cotton-poly blends (ugh) will ever be as comfortable as a properly-fitted all-cotton shirt.

There are some things you just can't cut corners on.

I'll buy no-iron shirts for me but, not for The Kid. I hate ironing but, I can suck it up for him.

352 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:35:00am
353 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:35:30am

re: #350 MandyManners

Sounding like a broken record here...

...but when conservatives AND liberals hate Fox News...That's Fair and Balanced!™

354 Gella  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:36:55am

good morning lizards:)))

355 Summersong  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:36:59am

Mandy my oldest son was so picky with his clothes (and his food and his hair, etc). Every tag and label had to be removed from the neck area. He used to tell me jeans were "scratchy".

I used to tell him he couldn't live life in a cotton ball!

356 rain of lead  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:37:04am

morning all,
got on the computer and the mouse didn't work.
messed with it for a while trying everthing.
momcat comes in and says did you try a battery?
............
[inserts new battery] works

d'oh
sheepish look

357 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:37:28am
358 Bloodnok  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:38:13am

re: #356 rain of lead

morning all,
got on the computer and the mouse didn't work.
messed with it for a while trying everthing.
momcat comes in and says did you try a battery?
............
[inserts new battery] works

d'oh
sheepish look

Ah, a wireless mouse. As long as you didn't take it apart looking for that damned trackball.

359 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:39:22am

re: #352 buzzsawmonkey

Now, that's love.

He has no idea. I grew up with a maid so I had to learn how when I went to college. I would fire up a while ironing--it took a long, long time but, it was fun.

360 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:39:58am

re: #353 laZardo

Sounding like a broken record here...

...but when conservatives AND liberals hate Fox News...That's Fair and Balanced!™

No. We're talking about Robert Spencer, a fascist sympathizer.

361 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:40:53am
362 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:45:24am

re: #357 buzzsawmonkey

If you've gotten him Brooks oxfords, then they're probably pretty smooth and supple; the Brooks product is on an entirely different order of quality than the Land's End.

You might want to check the Sierra Trading Post website; they do all sorts of closeouots at drastically reduced rates, and are good about taking returns if something doesn't suit.

For two out of 168 hours, he can put up with Nautica, Perry Ellis. Ralph Lauren and the like. (I love Kenneth Cole shoes for boys! They are sharp.)

363 Summersong  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:46:56am

You are right, in those days, the labels were sewn all the way around and I had to carefully pull the stitches out so I didn't harm the garment. Sometimes those stitches were tiny.

He wears khaki chinos, too. I gave up on the jeans years ago.

Oh, he also buys shoes 1/2 size too big...because they give him room to move around in. LOL

364 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:47:40am

re: #355 Summersong

Mandy my oldest son was so picky with his clothes (and his food and his hair, etc). Every tag and label had to be removed from the neck area. He used to tell me jeans were "scratchy".

I used to tell him he couldn't live life in a cotton ball!

I read a while back that high irritation over certain fabrics/labels might be an indicator of Aspergers.

365 Summersong  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:48:00am

Sorry, forgot to direct my comment to Buzz.

366 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:48:32am

re: #361 buzzsawmonkey

If you compare labels today to labels on shirts from a few years ago, he's probably right. Labels used to be made of a rayon which got softer with each washing, and were sewn down all the way around; they now are sewn only on the top in many cases, so can tickle and scratch, and are made of a polyester which does not soften.

I often remove labels for this reason.

And I've never liked jeans, even when fashion dictated that I wear them; khaki chinos for mine. They give you room to move around in.

I take ALL labels out of my clothes (and wash the items) before I ever wear them. You are right about labels - some manufactureres are now beginning to print the label on the inside, and that is so much better.

As for jeans - THANK GOODNESS for lycra = I do not buy jeans (or, actually, shirts or khakis or anything else) unless it has lycra in it.

367 alegrias  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:50:55am

re: #360 MandyManners

No. We're talking about Robert Spencer, a fascist sympathizer.

* * * * *
Were you aware as Mr. Spencer said this morning on that Fox interview, that perhaps 6% of the US jail population may be getting proselytized by moslem imams, and are reading islamic texts in US jail libraries that urge jihad?

This related to the four US citizens radicalized in US jail to commit jihad against their own US citizens and apprehended last week.

Seemed like factual reporting to me. Do you know what Mr. Spencer alleged is untrue?

368 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:51:11am
369 SummerSong  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:53:10am

re: #364 MandyManners

I read a while back that high irritation over certain fabrics/labels might be an indicator of Aspergers.

I can understand that it might be. Not the case with my son, thankfully.

370 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:54:14am

re: #364 MandyManners

I read a while back that high irritation over certain fabrics/labels might be an indicator of Aspergers.

That might explain why my mom used to cut the tags out of almost every shirt I wore back when I was young...

371 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:56:21am

re: #367 alegrias

* * * * *
Were you aware as Mr. Spencer said this morning on that Fox interview, that perhaps 6% of the US jail population may be getting proselytized by moslem imams, and are reading islamic texts in US jail libraries that urge jihad?

This related to the four US citizens radicalized in US jail to commit jihad against their own US citizens and apprehended last week.

Seemed like factual reporting to me. Do you know what Mr. Spencer alleged is untrue?

I never said that what he said was false. I'm stating what Charles has repeatedly posted here.

372 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:59:07am

re: #368 buzzsawmonkey

He can and should. Being able to wear decent clothing like you own it, and it doesn't own you, is a skill acquired by practice, and a very necessary one. It is not merely the wearing of garments that makes you look good, it is how you wear them.

As I said, that was one of the great benefits of having worn a school uniform for a while when I was a kid; I learned to wear a jacket and tie as natural clothing, not as some sort of straitjacket to be unwillingly buckled into. It makes a big difference being able to move in a suit as though you are not conscious that you are in it--in situations where you need to be "dressed," it gives you as much authority as the suit itself. In situations such as job interviews or public presentations, which can be stressful at the best of times, not having to fight your clothes puts you in a much better position.

He's fine once he gets dressed. (Oh, heck, he's more than fine. He looks like a million dollars.) It's just the power struggle while getting him dressed that grates.

373 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:59:36am

re: #369 SummerSong

I can understand that it might be. Not the case with my son, thankfully.

I was just saying....

374 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:00:06am

re: #370 laZardo

That might explain why my mom used to cut the tags out of almost every shirt I wore back when I was young...

You have it?

375 SummerSong  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:01:34am

re: #373 MandyManners

I was just saying....

Oh, I know. Not a problem at all.

376 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:05:28am

re: #374 MandyManners

Yep. Crazy as it sounds I don't like to admit I have it or at least play it down when I already/inadvertently have. It's got a stigma of "emo/hipster self-diagnosis" attached to it, even though I actually have the doctors' papers to prove mine..

377 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:08:49am

Doesn't Bill Gates have Asperger's?

378 debutaunt  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:11:10am

Atlantis is landing by the Pacificis.

379 debutaunt  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:12:46am

re: #378 debutaunt

Atlantis is landing by the Pacificis.

In 27 minutes...

380 opnion  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:18:13am

Greetings, fun seekers. I didn't see Colin Powell on CBS this morning , but he was covered in the paper yesterday. He sees a "New" Republican Party emerging.
If he thinks that he is a Party Reformer , he should not have endorsed Obama. It is hard to have infleuence in a party that you have deserted.
The MSM will make a big deal out of it, but the Party probably won't take him very serious.

381 LC LaWedgie  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:19:39am

I see google is back to their normal non-committal ignorance.

382 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:21:23am

re: #380 opnion

Greetings, fun seekers. I didn't see Colin Powell on CBS this morning , but he was covered in the paper yesterday. He sees a "New" Republican Party emerging.
If he thinks that he is a Party Reformer , he should not have endorsed Obama. It is hard to have infleuence in a party that you have deserted.
The MSM will make a big deal out of it, but the Party probably won't take him very serious.

General Powell ,, I honor and applaud your service to this country, but I don't see you delivering any Key Note addresses to the Republican Convention

383 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:22:25am

re: #381 LC LaWedgie

I see google is back to their normal non-committal ignorance.

Wouldn't want to offend anyone that is offended by people who served this country!

384 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:23:00am

re: #377 MandyManners

Not sure, but I am told Albert Einstein did.

/invented the nuke, married his cousin. Achievements!

385 opnion  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:26:36am

re: #382 sattv4u2

General Powell ,, I honor and applaud your service to this country, but I don't see you delivering any Key Note addresses to the Republican Convention

Yeah, I would value his military opnions, but his politics are pretty situational.
I would like someone to ask him if he would have jumped ship for Hillary.
She & BHO have pretty similar policies.

386 LC LaWedgie  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:27:03am

re: #383 sattv4u2

I suppose in fairness they could put it up tomorrow, but the whole concept of "Memorial Day weekend" seems to ring in my head for some reason.

387 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:28:00am

re: #383 sattv4u2

Apparently Memorial Day isn't really important like, say, Mary Cassat's birthday, which got the full treatment a couple weeks ago.
Bunch of twits.

388 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:28:55am

Isreali PM Netanyahu gives Obama the straight arm in return for that warm reception in DC last week:

[Link: www.alertnet.org...]

The Israelis are right. If the arabs want peace, settlement issues will be part of the negotiations, not a unilateral concession before any negotiations begin. BO could learn a thing or two about dealmaking and negotiating from Bibi.

389 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:35:55am

re: #387 lincolntf

I remember LGF was in an uproar when Google commemorated the launching of Sputnik.

/not that the beginning of the Space Age wasn't worth commemorating.

390 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:37:02am

Everyone watching the shuttle landing?

391 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:38:26am

re: #390 lincolntf

Everyone watching the shuttle landing?

Yep.

392 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:39:05am

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

393 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:39:50am

I designed this Memorial Day logo for Google a couple of years ago.

394 American Sabra  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:39:57am

re: #388 _RememberTonyC

Isreali PM Netanyahu gives Obama the straight arm in return for that warm reception in DC last week:

[Link: www.alertnet.org...]

The Israelis are right. If the arabs want peace, settlement issues will be part of the negotiations, not a unilateral concession before any negotiations begin. BO could learn a thing or two about dealmaking and negotiating from Bibi.

Mmmm... don't be so quick to heap tons of praise on Bibi. His track record is not the greatest either.

Here's a short opinion piece I found this morning that sums it up pretty well. Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike Bibi, but I really pray for some new minds, fresh blood and ideas for Israel.

[Link: www.jewishexponent.com...]

395 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:40:25am

Five million miles. I wonder what kind of frequent flyer miles you'd get if you flew that many in an airplane.

396 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:40:37am

re: #390 lincolntf

Brb, gonna check it out too.

397 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:40:54am

That was great

398 occasional reader  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:41:17am

Suits and ties are symbols of OPPRESSION!

Little wonder they are favored by a Zionist Honco like buzzsawmonkey.

399 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:42:20am

re: #394 American Sabra

Mmmm... don't be so quick to heap tons of praise on Bibi. His track record is not the greatest either.

Here's a short opinion piece I found this morning that sums it up pretty well. Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike Bibi, but I really pray for some new minds, fresh blood and ideas for Israel.

[Link: www.jewishexponent.com...]

Nobody's perfect, but the Israelis chose the guy they needed at the time. I would think in Israel certain issues are less subject to "nuance" than here in the states.

400 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:42:37am

re: #395 MandyManners

Nowadays, you'd probably get enough to earn a one-way ticket to Branson, MO and an extra bag of mini-pretzels.

401 alegrias  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:42:38am

Hooray for the shuttle landing! Excellent mission.

402 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:42:51am

re: #398 occasional reader

Suits and ties are symbols of OPPRESSION!

Little wonder they are favored by a Zionist Honco like buzzsawmonkey.

According to The Kid, it's the step below water-boarding!

403 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:43:34am

re: #400 lincolntf

Nowadays, you'd probably get enough to earn a one-way ticket to Branson, MO and an extra bag of mini-pretzels.

I'd rather stay home.

404 occasional reader  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:44:00am

re: #395 MandyManners

Five million miles. I wonder what kind of frequent flyer miles you'd get if you flew that many in an airplane.

Two million gets you lifetime "Exec utive Platinum" status on American.

405 austin_blue  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:44:58am

re: #13 FurryOldGuyJeans

A troll is only done when they are a greasy stain on the floor and walls.

No troll. Different viewpoint. Great to watch the shuttle landing at Edwards. Too bad they couldn't make it at Kennedy, as they were scheduled to reenter right over us.

"A screaming comes across the sky..."

406 summergurl  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:45:22am

re: #403 MandyManners

I'd rather stay home.


Anyplace without gambling and limited alcohol doesn't excite me... maybe a day or two but spend a whole week there?

407 occasional reader  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:46:55am

Page A4 of today's NYT has a photo of a "moderate Sufi Muslim" in Somalia. So I guess that's his "moderate" Kalashnikov.

408 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:47:14am

Good morning, lizards.
Another fine morning on tap, on a long holiday weekend.

410 MacDuff  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:47:57am

re: #388 _RememberTonyC

Isreali PM Netanyahu gives Obama the straight arm in return for that warm reception in DC last week:

[Link: www.alertnet.org...]

The Israelis are right. If the arabs want peace, settlement issues will be part of the negotiations, not a unilateral concession before any negotiations begin. BO could learn a thing or two about dealmaking and negotiating from Bibi.

Bibi's no paper tiger and he has no intention of rolling over and being obedient to the Obama administration. He's reasonable, but it's clear that he sees that unbalanced Israeli concessions have always been the centerpiece of the "peace plans" and he will simply have no more of it; it's time for the other side to concede a bit.

In related news, Obama's Military Chief says that Iran wants nuclear weapons - and that threatens the region. He further says that we must "engage" Iran's leaders.

Barack Chamberlain Obama: Peace is at hand.

411 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:47:59am

re: #404 occasional reader

Two million gets you lifetime "Exec utive Platinum" status on American.

My father had about 1,500,000 on United when he retired.

412 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:48:31am

re: #406 summergurl

Anyplace without gambling and limited alcohol doesn't excite me... maybe a day or two but spend a whole week there?

Limited booze?

413 FrogMarch  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:48:53am

Hi all. It's a beautiful Sunday morning and I don't want to ruin it for anyone. Don't click on this link unless you have a strong stomach.
Jewish man tortured and killed in France by radical Islamists with ties to Hamas.

(you know -the same types earth-cancer the Andrew Sullivan/Barack Obama left are crying and moaning about because the CIA water-boarded three of them)

414 alegrias  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:49:05am

re: #398 occasional reader

Suits and ties are symbols of OPPRESSION!

Little wonder they are favored by a Zionist Honco like buzzsawmonkey.

* * * *
How true-- 1979's Iranian revolution uniform was anti-ties & pro beards, like the socialists in Europe.

Mao-suits were also in vogue in the 1960s, those Nehru jackets & mandarin collars considered so "progressive".

415 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:49:12am

re: #407 occasional reader

Page A4 of today's NYT has a photo of a "moderate Sufi Muslim" in Somalia. So I guess that's his "moderate" Kalashnikov.

Does it have a smiley face on top of the barrel?

416 alegrias  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:51:20am

re: #407 occasional reader

Page A4 of today's NYT has a photo of a "moderate Sufi Muslim" in Somalia. So I guess that's his "moderate" Kalashnikov.

* * * *
Moderate jihadis have the human right to carry guns and weapons everywhere without restrictions. It's part of their culture.////NYT logic

417 occasional reader  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:51:48am

re: #415 MandyManners

Does it have a smiley face on top of the barrel?

No, but it DOES have a Playboy logo sling. (I'm not kidding.)

418 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:52:02am

Wow, very quiet this morning.
Is everyone sleeping in?

419 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:52:35am

Just happened to flip over to Stephanopoulos in time to hear him telling viewers to "follow me on Facebook and Twitter".
I know it's the modern media and all, but it just sounded so lame.

420 alegrias  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:53:02am

re: #409 MandyManners

RICHMOND, May 22 -- Liberty University will no longer recognize its campus Democratic club because, officials say, the national party's platform goes against the conservative Christian school's moral principles.

SNIP

* * *
This was discussed yesterday at length. Guess Libery U. won't be giving Pres. Obama any honorary degrees either.

421 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:53:43am

re: #419 lincolntf

But apropos

Follow the Twit on Twitter

422 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:54:23am

Such arrogant far-right elitism.
And they wonder why they're irrelevant.

423 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:54:36am

re: #421 sattv4u2

But apropos

Follow the Twit on Twitter

Just as I was gonna type the same. ;)

424 itellu3times  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:54:58am

re: #407 occasional reader

Page A4 of today's NYT has a photo of a "moderate Sufi Muslim" in Somalia. So I guess that's his "moderate" Kalashnikov.

Depends which way it's pointed.

425 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:55:37am

re: #420 alegrias

* * *
This was discussed yesterday at length. Guess Libery U. won't be giving Pres. Obama any honorary degrees either.

I guess they can do anything they want and sanction what ever groups they want, but IMO this is stupid. Why is anyone afraid of free discourse and differing opinions?

426 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:55:57am

Good morning again y'all! Back from Chores early (well, a break from chores for a while!).
Hope everyone is still doing well.

427 J.S.  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:56:52am

This is somehow like deja-vu...is it 9/10 all over again? only, in some respects it's even worse -- Hamas in Gaza; Hezbollah poised to take over the Lebanese parliament; Somalia in total meltdown; Pakistan areas under the control of radical/Taliban; ditto for Afghanistan, etc., etc. Meanwhile terrorists are to be re-housed in U.S. prisons -- yet another means to "enter the U.S."? (should create a new category of "immigrant"...)

428 alegrias  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:56:53am

re: #419 lincolntf

Just happened to flip over to Stephanopoulos in time to hear him telling viewers to "follow me on Facebook and Twitter".
I know it's the modern media and all, but it just sounded so lame.

* * * * *
Like John McCain now being a twitterer when it was widely acknowledge he couldn't type because of injuries to his arms last year.

Nothing says leadership to me like twittering all day, signifying nothing.

To think Colin Powell who was originally a McCain campaign advisor, left McCain's camp for an even bigger twitterer & Facebooker...such leadership I wish to forget this day when we honor TRUE US military heroes who paid the ultimate price.

Please get to the WWII, Korea and Vietnam Memorials if you've never been there.

Thank you all veterans on this blog, for your service.

429 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:57:26am

re: #417 occasional reader

No, but it DOES have a Playboy logo sling. (I'm not kidding.)

LOL!

430 American Sabra  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:57:53am

re: #399 _RememberTonyC

Nobody's perfect, but the Israelis chose the guy they needed at the time. I would think in Israel certain issues are less subject to "nuance" than here in the states.

Nobody's perfect? Clinton gets the axe from the Republican party for doing the exact some thing Bibi did, i.e. making nicey with Arafat and reaching out to him during the Wye Accord agreements. Bibi also withdrew from the territories and Hebron in the late 90s, not a popular decision. If we criticize Clinton for the way he handled the Middle East, Bibi at the time was certainly no better.

Bibi also, like Clinton, was involved in a number of personal scandals during his last tenure as PM.

I'm very slow to criticize American and Israeli policy in the matter especially when the larger chunk of the burden of peace belongs to the Arabs who consistently fight against it.

431 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:58:12am

re: #420 alegrias

* * *
This was discussed yesterday at length. Guess Libery U. won't be giving Pres. Obama any honorary degrees either.

I musta' missed that.

432 austin_blue  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:58:16am

re: #417 occasional reader

No, but it DOES have a Playboy logo sling. (I'm not kidding.)

A Koran, an AK, a Playboy sling, a woman's hand. Such is "moderation" in East Africa. Hoo boy.

433 itellu3times  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:58:30am

re: #390 lincolntf

Everyone watching the shuttle landing?

Waiting for the boom. There's supposed to be an earth-shattering boom!

434 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:27am

re: #433 itellu3times

Waiting for the boom. There's supposed to be an earth-shattering boom!


Why ,,l did Rosie O'Donnell fall down and land on her butt !?!?!?

435 MacDuff  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:31am

re: #422 Irish Rose

Such arrogant far-right elitism.
And they wonder why they're irrelevant.

They know that their audience is one who has a short attention span, can't really think for itself and can only take intellectual nutrition in limited sound bites that have been pre-chewed.

436 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:39am

Expect a harshly worded letter...

VAVUNIYA, Sri Lanka (CNN) -- After visiting a displacement camp in Sri Lanka on Saturday and flying over the site of the last battle in the country's recently ended civil war, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called the sites "appalling."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Gosh, Ki-moon got out of the office and accidently step on the real world. Holy shit, are these people dense or what?

437 occasional reader  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:57am

re: #413 FrogMarch

Hi all. It's a beautiful Sunday morning and I don't want to ruin it for anyone. Don't click on this link unless you have a strong stomach.
Jewish man tortured and killed in France by radical Islamists with ties to Hamas.

(you know -the same types earth-cancer the Andrew Sullivan/Barack Obama left are crying and moaning about because the CIA water-boarded three of them)

Horrible.

So, when do French Jews start rioting over this?

/rhetorical Q:

438 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:00:23am

re: #433 itellu3times

Waiting for the boom. There's supposed to be an earth-shattering boom!

*psssst* Stop waiting.

439 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:00:27am

re: #430 American Sabra

Clinton gets the axe from the Republican party

Clinton was a Republican !?!?!?!?!?!

440 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:01:02am

Watching the STS-125 landing feed here on CNN.

They're asleep at the wheel over at CNN. They've got Edwards AFB labeled as Andrews AFB.

Screenshot

441 austin_blue  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:01:19am

re: #436 Walter L. Newton

Expect a harshly worded letter...

VAVUNIYA, Sri Lanka (CNN) -- After visiting a displacement camp in Sri Lanka on Saturday and flying over the site of the last battle in the country's recently ended civil war, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called the sites "appalling."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Gosh, Ki-moon got out of the office and accidently step on the real world. Holy shit, are these people dense or what?

Hey, Walter, good morning. Hope you understand there was nothing personal last night. Just thought I was getting slammed for an opinion. Hope you are well.

442 occasional reader  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:02:19am

re: #429 MandyManners

LOL!

Really, not kidding. Photo shows guy reading Koran, with AK with Playboy logo sling close at hand.

443 ladycatnip  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:02:23am

Here's a well written piece on Obama's 7 Strawmen regarding the reasons he says "we're out of money."

On a different note, thank you veterans for serving our country!

444 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:02:35am

re: #425 Walter L. Newton

I guess they can do anything they want and sanction what ever groups they want, but IMO this is stupid. Why is anyone afraid of free discourse and differing opinions?


They're not afraid of free discourse and differing opinions, they just "know" (like the vast majority of right-wing fundamentalist elitists) that they're the only ones who are right. If you don't parrot their ideologies, then you're a misguided sinner and of no use to them.

I'm sure they're more than willing to offer spiritual counciling to the misguided and disenfranchised. Love the sinner, not the sin.

445 alegrias  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:02:35am

re: #425 Walter L. Newton

I guess they can do anything they want and sanction what ever groups they want, but IMO this is stupid. Why is anyone afraid of free discourse and differing opinions?

* * * * * *
Walter, I don't know. It's petty when either side does it, and Liberty is probably just a two bit school.

When Harvard & Columbia Universities, supposedly truly ELITE & ENLIGHTENED, take federal dollars, and still prohibit ROTC (Reserve Officers Training C_______) on their leftist campuses...that's right in our faces.

By the way, Pres. Obama is considering nominating as a Supreme Court justice, Elena Kagan the Dean of Harvard U or its law school, who banned the ROTC from that hallowed school in the first place. How offensive is that to taxpayers and Americans who want to serve their country while in college?

446 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:23am

re: #442 occasional reader

Really, not kidding. Photo shows guy reading Koran, with AK with Playboy logo sling close at hand.

Maybe he doesn't know what it means, thinks it's just about bunnies of the four-legged kind.

447 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:41am

Mandy--on the clothes war--

Have you tried playing ZZ Top's Sharp Dressed Man for him? That's what we do. It's not a magic bullet, but it makes things a little better. They still change back into regular shirts as soon as they can, of course.

448 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:04:12am

re: #425 Walter L. Newton

I guess they can do anything they want and sanction what ever groups they want, but IMO this is stupid. Why is anyone afraid of free discourse and differing opinions?


Hi Walter - well I have to disagree. Liberty University exists in (and no doubt because of) America and the freedoms of speech enjoyed ONLY by Americans.
Even if it's legal (and I'm not so sure it is) for any university anywhere in this country to deny a student members of a political party the right to gather and meet at the University, then I think ALL federal funding (and frankly State funding) should be pulled from that university for denying some students the right to form a Democratic Club as constituting a denial of Freedom of Speech.
I wonder if that "university" allows Pro-Choice groups the right to form a club and use Univeristy space to hold meetings?

449 Truck Monkey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:04:38am

re: #440 Gus 802

Watching the STS-125 landing feed here on CNN.

They're asleep at the wheel over at CNN. They've got Edwards AFB labeled as Andrews AFB.

Screenshot

And they wonder why they are unwatchable. Maroons!

450 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:04:53am

BBIAM!

451 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:05:27am

re: #447 EmmmieG

Mandy--on the clothes war--

Have you tried playing ZZ Top's Sharp Dressed Man for him? That's what we do. It's not a magic bullet, but it makes things a little better. They still change back into regular shirts as soon as they can, of course.

I hate that song with a passion.

452 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:05:35am

re: #441 austin_blue

Hey, Walter, good morning. Hope you understand there was nothing personal last night. Just thought I was getting slammed for an opinion. Hope you are well.

None taken. Lizards normally have thick skins. And like I said last night, if that review/performer I linked to was not about you, then again I'm sorry.

Other than that, I don't agree with anything you have posted, and I am still waiting for you to answer my and other questions.

So, start here. If you call yourself a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, and you voted for Obama, what policies of Obama do you NOT like?

May as well separate the wheat from the chaff first.

453 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:05am

Has anyone seen Hoops this morning? He was in such a sad mood yesterday, I sure hope that he's feeling better today.

454 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:13am

re: #440 Gus 802

I went downstairs about 11:45 Manila Time, the landing was already over. ;_;

BBC World was still playing it for a few minutes after CNN International was.

455 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:16am

re: #449 Truck Monkey

And they wonder why they are unwatchable. Maroons!

Next it will be Charles AFB, then Anne AFB, then on to the next generation for Williams AFB.

Did someone tell them we broke with the British Royal House 200 years ago?

*Grin*

456 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:24am

re: #448 realwest

Hi Walter - well I have to disagree. Liberty University exists in (and no doubt because of) America and the freedoms of speech enjoyed ONLY by Americans.
Even if it's legal (and I'm not so sure it is) for any university anywhere in this country to deny a student members of a political party the right to gather and meet at the University, then I think ALL federal funding (and frankly State funding) should be pulled from that university for denying some students the right to form a Democratic Club as constituting a denial of Freedom of Speech.
I wonder if that "university" allows Pro-Choice groups the right to form a club and use Univeristy space to hold meetings?

It's a private university--does it receive any federal funding?

457 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:26am

re: #451 MandyManners

I hate that song with a passion.

Bummer.

458 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:43am

re: #453 Irish Rose

Has anyone seen Hoops this morning? He was in such a sad mood yesterday, I sure hope that he's feeling better today.

What was he sad about?

459 Altermite  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:46am

re: #447 EmmmieG

Mandy--on the clothes war--

Have you tried playing ZZ Top's Sharp Dressed Man for him? That's what we do. It's not a magic bullet, but it makes things a little better. They still change back into regular shirts as soon as they can, of course.

I didn't start liking dress clothes until a couple years ago, when I went out and got my own. I'm not sure how old your kids are, so that may have to wait a bit.

460 American Sabra  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:07:12am

re: #439 sattv4u2

Clinton gets the axe from the Republican party

Clinton was a Republican !?!?!?!?!?!

I meant he gets criticized by the Republicans for the way he handled Israel.

461 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:07:17am

re: #449 Truck Monkey

And they wonder why they are unwatchable. Maroons!

Yeah, they did it in two place. On the video screen and right below on the cnn.com Live window.

Dummies.

462 Truck Monkey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:07:36am

re: #455 EmmmieG

Next it will be Charles AFB, then Anne AFB, then on to the next generation for Williams AFB.

Did someone tell them we broke with the British Royal House 200 years ago?

*Grin*

Yeah. I still can't believe they named the base in CA after John Edwards.

/snark

463 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:07:57am

re: #458 reine.de.tout

Goddessoftheclassroom.

464 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:08:04am

re: #448 realwest

Hi Walter - well I have to disagree. Liberty University exists in (and no doubt because of) America and the freedoms of speech enjoyed ONLY by Americans.
Even if it's legal (and I'm not so sure it is) for any university anywhere in this country to deny a student members of a political party the right to gather and meet at the University, then I think ALL federal funding (and frankly State funding) should be pulled from that university for denying some students the right to form a Democratic Club as constituting a denial of Freedom of Speech.
I wonder if that "university" allows Pro-Choice groups the right to form a club and use Univeristy space to hold meetings?

Does a privately owned business have a legal obligation to allow speech with which it does not agree? No.

465 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:08:07am

re: #454 laZardo

I went downstairs about 11:45 Manila Time, the landing was already over. ;_;

BBC World was still playing it for a few minutes after CNN International was.

They're still doing the live feed. NASA TV of course has it up and running.

466 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:08:12am

re: #448 realwest

Hi Walter - well I have to disagree. Liberty University exists in (and no doubt because of) America and the freedoms of speech enjoyed ONLY by Americans.
Even if it's legal (and I'm not so sure it is) for any university anywhere in this country to deny a student members of a political party the right to gather and meet at the University, then I think ALL federal funding (and frankly State funding) should be pulled from that university for denying some students the right to form a Democratic Club as constituting a denial of Freedom of Speech.
I wonder if that "university" allows Pro-Choice groups the right to form a club and use Univeristy space to hold meetings?

I said I "guess" they have the right. Unless I'm missing something, LU is a private school, just like Bob Jones U., and they can make up their own rules about clubs (and like Bob Jones, dating).

Anyway, that wasn't my real point, my real point was why are they afraid of open discourse and differing opinions?

467 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:08:28am

re: #456 MandyManners

It's a private university--does it receive any federal funding?

I'm 99% sure I read somewhere that it does NOT (read it when there was another "controversy" about a decision it had made)

468 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:08:30am

re: #457 EmmmieG

Bummer.

It's that "girl" and "man" thing.

469 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:08:35am

re: #463 Irish Rose

Goddessoftheclassroom.

I sent him an e-mail. He seemed OK to me when he wrote back.

470 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:09:10am
471 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:09:17am

re: #460 American Sabra

I meant he gets criticized by the Republicans for the way he handled Israel.

And that was wrong because ,,,,,,?!?!?!?!?

472 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:09:32am

re: #469 reine.de.tout

I sent him an e-mail. He seemed OK to me when he wrote back.

Maybe he partied to hardy in the pool last night.

473 American Sabra  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:09:55am

re: #471 sattv4u2

And that was wrong because ,,,,,,?!?!?!?!?

Of for Gawd's sake, did you even read the thread above it?

474 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:09:56am

re: #467 sattv4u2

I'm 99% sure I read somewhere that it does NOT (read it when there was another "controversy" about a decision it had made)

Well, I think that that would be an end to that issue.

475 itellu3times  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:10:16am

re: #438 MandyManners

*psssst* Stop waiting.

*psssst*? No boom, just *psssst*?

Aw heck, there usually *is* an earth-shattering boom, and ABC ran a warning crawl across the bottom of the screen, but I think they ran it after the event, too.

476 occasional reader  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:10:20am

Goin' sailin'. Later.

477 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:10:28am

re: #468 MandyManners

It's that "girl" and "man" thing.

Well, for the rest of my life, it's now psychologically associated with 2 year-olds in clip-on ties.

478 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:10:50am

re: #444 Irish Rose

They're not afraid of free discourse and differing opinions, they just "know" (like the vast majority of right-wing fundamentalist elitists) that they're the only ones who are right. If you don't parrot their ideologies, then you're a misguided sinner and of no use to them.

I'm sure they're more than willing to offer spiritual counciling to the misguided and disenfranchised. Love the sinner, not the sin.

I know, I was sort of being rhetorical, I already had the answer. You just help confirm it. Sad.

479 austin_blue  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:11:21am

re: #445 alegrias

* * * * * *
Walter, I don't know. It's petty when either side does it, and Liberty is probably just a two bit school.

When Harvard & Columbia Universities, supposedly truly ELITE & ENLIGHTENED, take federal dollars, and still prohibit ROTC (Reserve Officers Training C_______) on their leftist campuses...that's right in our faces.

By the way, Pres. Obama is considering nominating as a Supreme Court justice, Elena Kagan the Dean of Harvard U or its law school, who banned the ROTC from that hallowed school in the first place. How offensive is that to taxpayers and Americans who want to serve their country while in college?

Umm.... no. She didn't. Why would you continue to perpetrate a mistruth? The facts are easy to find. Here:

"Dean of Harvard Law School

Lawrence Summers appointed Kagan the first female dean of Harvard Law School in 2003.[4] She succeeded Robert C. Clark who had served as dean for over a decade. The focus of her tenure has been improving student satisfaction. Efforts include constructing new facilities and reforming the first year curriculum, as well as aesthetic changes and creature comforts, such as free morning coffee. She has been credited for employing a consensus-building leadership style which surmounted the school's previous ideological discord.
She also inherited a $400 million capital campaign, "Setting the Standard," in 2003. It ended in 2008 with a record breaking $476 million raised, 19% more than the original goal.[5] Kagan is also credited with overcoming ideological disputes among the Law School faculty that had hindered new faculty appointments. She has made a number of prominent new hires, increasing the size of the faculty considerably.[citation needed]
Her name was briefly mooted to replace Summers as president of Harvard.[4] During her deanship, Kagan supported a long-standing policy barring military recruiters from campus."

Recruiters, not ROTC. ROTC has *always* been an undergraduate program. I know because that's how I went to college before flying in the Air Force.

480 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:11:24am

re: #475 itellu3times

*psssst*? No boom, just *psssst*?

Aw heck, there usually *is* an earth-shattering boom, and ABC ran a warning crawl across the bottom of the screen, but I think they ran it after the event, too.

I've never heard one from the shuttle but, I've never lived under its flight path.

481 Miss Trixie  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:12:45am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

A beeYOOOOOOOtiful day in the valley, my courtyard is cleaned up and my plants are thriving, we`ve terrorized the `hood and I`m thinking about a little lunch.

realwest *hugs* Glad to see you today and you sound chipper.

- New avatar, BTW - :D

482 Altermite  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:12:58am

re: #445 alegrias

* * * * * *
Walter, I don't know. It's petty when either side does it, and Liberty is probably just a two bit school.

When Harvard & Columbia Universities, supposedly truly ELITE & ENLIGHTENED, take federal dollars, and still prohibit ROTC (Reserve Officers Training C_______) on their leftist campuses...that's right in our faces.

By the way, Pres. Obama is considering nominating as a Supreme Court justice, Elena Kagan the Dean of Harvard U or its law school, who banned the ROTC from that hallowed school in the first place. How offensive is that to taxpayers and Americans who want to serve their country while in college?

Liberty isn't just a two bit school. My campus isn't that far away from it- its possibly one of the most outwardly 'conservative christian' schools in the country. Their science faculty espouses creationism, IIRC, and I happen to know that they outright deny evolution. Their pre-med program isn't very successful. They consider themself part of the 'christian ivy league'.

Incidently, Harvard was not receiving federal funding while they prohibited recruiters from campus, although the law campus is receiving it now that they are allowing recruitment again. I don't know about columbia, but its important to get one's facts straight before lambasting a college for taking money while refusing recruitment.

483 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:44am

re: #453 Irish Rose
Good morning Irish Rose! Yes, Hoops was on earlier today - he was in a great mood - drinking some beer and getting ready to go off to the race!
Hope you're doing well.

484 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:14:39am
Absolute truth belongs only to one class of humans ... the class of absolute fools.
— Ashley Montagu

If anyone says he knows the absolute truth, you can be sure he's fool of it.

485 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:14:55am

re: #483 realwest

Good to hear.

486 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:15:15am

re: #483 realwest

Speaking of the Indy 500, I'm observing the lineup on Jalopnik and I think they might have made a mix-up on Row 4.

/snickering

487 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:16:48am

Indy 500 fans-
My racing ignorance is always a burden on days like today.
Couple questions: Should I be rooting for Helio Castanueves (sp?) because he beat the IRS?
Is Danica Patrick racing (I'm 98% sure she is) or is there another American driver that I can root for/expect to contend?

488 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:17:02am

re: #476 occasional reader

Goin' sailin'. Later.

Must resist reference to Village People's In the Navy.

489 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:17:22am

Can someone give me a good reason for subscribing to Twitter?
I'm trying to find one and it just seems like another waste of time to me.

490 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:17:44am

re: #489 Irish Rose

Can someone give me a good reason for subscribing to Twitter?
I'm trying to find one and it just seems like another waste of time to me.

Everybody is doing it.

491 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:17:54am

re: #477 EmmmieG

Well, for the rest of my life, it's now psychologically associated with 2 year-olds in clip-on ties.

Oh, I remember those! Now he's moved on to the ones that zip up and the real deals.

492 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:17:59am

re: #489 Irish Rose

Can someone give me a good reason for subscribing to Twitter?
I'm trying to find one and it just seems like another waste of time to me.

I'm on it. :3 Same username.

/UNWARRANTED EGO BOOST MODE

493 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:18:11am

re: #473 American Sabra

Of for Gawd's sake, did you even read the thread above it?

Yes I did, you were equating Bibi's actions back then with Clitons and the critizism it generated for one an not trhe other. The problem with your analysis is that Bibi was (is) in charge of the country it's HAPPENING too, while Clinton was trying to broker a deal that would be disadvantagious to our closest ally in the region

494 lincolntf  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:18:42am

re: #489 Irish Rose

You could have just "tweeted" that and the whole world know how you felt.

I "twittered" once, on the evening of one of the Pres. debates. First and last time.

495 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:18:46am

re: #481 {Miss Trixie} Hey there gorgeous! *smooches* back to you! I'm doing ok I guess, and feeling chipper (though less so since I read about Liberty U. - I reckon if they don't receive Federal OR State funding then they don't have to allow academic free speech or any free speech if they choose not too).
Hope you're doing well - and Lil Miss, too!
And btw, THANK YOU for that new Avatar as well.

496 Truck Monkey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:19:24am

re: #487 lincolntf

Indy 500 fans-
My racing ignorance is always a burden on days like today.
Couple questions: Should I be rooting for Helio Castanueves (sp?) because he beat the IRS?
Is Danica Patrick racing (I'm 98% sure she is) or is there another American driver that I can root for/expect to contend?

Hudson Hornet!
/

497 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:19:26am

re: #479 austin_blue

It still sucks banning recruiters but, it's a private school.

498 Truck Monkey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:19:50am

re: #489 Irish Rose

Can someone give me a good reason for subscribing to Twitter?
I'm trying to find one and it just seems like another waste of time to me.

All the cool kids are doing it.

499 Afrocity  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:20:36am

Good Sunday Lizards. I just wanted to let you know that I have a commemorative Memorial Day post up at my blog which is dedicated to my family and Lizards who served our country in the Military. I have several screen names up. If I have left out someone please let me know.

My nic is blue and links to the post.

500 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:20:46am

Well hell, I'll get right on it then.re: #490 Walter L. Newton

Everybody is doing it.

Well hell, I'll get right on it then!

/////

501 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:21:24am

re: #500 Irish Rose


Sometimes Ajax sux (gotta remember to shut that thing off when commenting)

502 alegrias  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:21:35am

re: #479 austin_blue

Umm.... no. She didn't. Why would you continue to perpetrate a mistruth? The facts are easy to find. Here:

"Dean of Harvard Law School

Lawrence Summers appointed Kagan the first female dean of Harvard Law School in 2003.[4] She succeeded Robert C. Clark who had served as dean for over a decade. The focus of her tenure has been improving student satisfaction. Efforts include constructing new facilities and reforming the first year curriculum, as well as aesthetic changes and creature comforts, such as free morning coffee. She has been credited for employing a consensus-building leadership style which surmounted the school's previous ideological discord.
She also inherited a $400 million capital campaign, "Setting the Standard," in 2003. It ended in 2008 with a record breaking $476 million raised, 19% more than the original goal.[5] Kagan is also credited with overcoming ideological disputes among the Law School faculty that had hindered new faculty appointments. She has made a number of prominent new hires, increasing the size of the faculty considerably.[citation needed]
Her name was briefly mooted to replace Summers as president of Harvard.[4] During her deanship, Kagan supported a long-standing policy barring military recruiters from campus."

Recruiters, not ROTC. ROTC has *always* been an undergraduate program. I know because that's how I went to college before flying in the Air Force.

* * * *
Thank you for your service. Off the top of my head I said Kagan was Dean of one OR the other at Harvard U.

Banning US military recruiters from Harvard or other "elite" US universities is offensive ON ITS FACE.

Your opinion of leftist management and CONTROL may differ.

503 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:22:16am

re: #479 austin_blue

Austin. When alegrias mentioned ROTC, he was talking about ROTC recruiters, which everyone on this thread understood except you.

A bit of advice, when you post information, also post a link to that information so we can see where it came from. Sources and context is important to any bit of information.

504 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:22:20am

re: #496 Truck Monkey

Hudson Hornet!
/

Ka-chow!

505 VegasRick  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:22:29am

re: #486 laZardo

Speaking of the Indy 500, I'm observing the lineup on Jalopnik and I think they might have made a mix-up on Row 4.

/snickering

I don't see it.

506 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:23:07am

re: #499 Afrocity

That looks wonderful, I'm bookmarking it for later reading.

507 debutaunt  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:23:23am

re: #417 occasional reader

No, but it DOES have a Playboy logo sling. (I'm not kidding.)

Terrorism has a class clown?

508 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:23:24am

re: #500 Irish Rose

Well hell, I'll get right on it then.

Well hell, I'll get right on it then!

/////

Good, you caught my sarcasm.

509 itellu3times  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:23:42am

re: #484 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If anyone says he knows the absolute truth, you can be sure he's fool of it.

Maybe.

510 babes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:23:43am

Good day all - Rolling Thunder is in town today.

511 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:23:56am

re: #505 VegasRick

...oooooohhhhhh.

/ q;

512 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:03am

re: #510 babes

Good day all - Rolling Thunder is in town today.

?

513 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:13am

re: #489 Irish Rose

Can someone give me a good reason for subscribing to Twitter?
I'm trying to find one and it just seems like another waste of time to me.

I subscribed AND NEVER USE IT.

514 austin_blue  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:33am

re: #452 Walter L. Newton

None taken. Lizards normally have thick skins. And like I said last night, if that review/performer I linked to was not about you, then again I'm sorry.

Other than that, I don't agree with anything you have posted, and I am still waiting for you to answer my and other questions.

So, start here. If you call yourself a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, and you voted for Obama, what policies of Obama do you NOT like?

May as well separate the wheat from the chaff first.

I wish the stimulus package could have been packaged differently. The idea was basically sound, a continuation of the Bush policies, but it smells bad. I have read as much as I can about the various bailouts, and as a layman, I am still somewhat confused. It appears that the problem is not the mortgages and commercial loans (which was the problem in the '86 crash which resulted in the S&L bailouts), but the various derivatives that were floated that were *based* upon the original loans. It was layer upon layer of risk that was piled on the banking system, and then insured by groups like AIG. So when the party ended, pretty much everybody was left holding various pieces of paper that were impossible to value. Hence the gridlock in loans. The sad thing, to me, was that the people who originally sold the suspect paper had already made their profits and were off stage, grinning.

I suppose we could have let everyone go bankrupt because the basis of "wealth" was fictional, but then where would we be? Could we really afford another shutdown of the world economy? I just don't know....

515 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:40am

RABAT (Reuters) – Eleven people were killed in a stampede at a stadium in the Moroccan capital Rabat overnight when thousands of spectators hurried to leave at the end of a concert wrapping up the city's landmark music festival.

The stampede caused a fence to give way, killing five women, two teenagers and four men. Forty people were injured, eight of them seriously.

The victims were among 70,000 spectators at a concert by Moroccan pop star Abdelaziz Stati at the Hay Nahda soccer stadium in Rabat.

"An investigation is under way to establish the exact causes and circumstances of the incident," the Interior Ministry said in a statement.

The concert was part of a week-long annual Mawazine music festival in Rabat which ended in the early hours of Sunday.

Mawazine is one of a growing number of well-funded music festivals aimed at promoting an image of tolerance and modernity in the Muslim north African kingdom.

SNIP

Moroccan Islamist politicians have denounced pop concerts as encouraging immoral behavior. They argue it would be better to spend the money to create jobs.

516 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:25:30am

re: #482 Altermite
"...but its important to get one's facts straight before lambasting a college for taking money while refusing recruitment." NO it isn't. As a general proposition, any college or University which receives Federal Funding and they refuses to allow the Armed Forces to recruit on campus, the same way they allow other businesses to recruit on campus, then my opinion is that that college or university should NOT receive Federal Funding. And Liberty U. isn't worth wasting my time over researching the issue.
Moreover, I find it hard to believe that Harvard wasn't receiving any government funding in say it's science department, doing research for, among others, the DoD. You have a link to that statement of fact that they weren't receiving Federal Funds of any type?
And finally remember the whole reason why I find it so abhorrent for a public school to teach ID/YEC in it's science department is because it is FUNDED by taxpayer dollars.

517 babes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:25:50am

Vets and patriots on bikes - rolling from the Pentagon down Constitution Ave. -- just so that people don't forget.

518 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:26:48am

re: #509 itellu3times

Maybe.

I once knew a fool who tried to become an art collector,
......... but he and his Monet were soon parted.

/sorry, it's a compulsive disorder

519 MacDuff  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:26:48am

re: #499 Afrocity

Good Sunday Lizards. I just wanted to let you know that I have a commemorative Memorial Day post up at my blog which is dedicated to my family and Lizards who served our country in the Military. I have several screen names up. If I have left out someone please let me know.

My nic is blue and links to the post.

As usual, a very beautiful an moving post from a wonderful and thoughtful individual.

520 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:26:54am

I have a blog and a MySpace, and they take up enough of my valuable time.
I just can't see the point in Twittering.

But perhaps I'm missing something.

521 laZardo  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:27:29am

re: #515 MandyManners

I will agree, unfortunately, that pop culture kills.

522 alegrias  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:27:30am

re: #510 babes

Good day all - Rolling Thunder is in town today.

* * * *
Rolling Thunder was behind me on Route 50 in Virginia--between their Harley Davidson of Fairfax and Downtown DC destination.

Rolling Thunder was all over the Beltway.

523 VegasRick  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:27:33am

re: #517 babes

Vets and patriots on bikes - rolling from the Pentagon down Constitution Ave. -- just so that people don't forget.

On FOX right now. Cool!

524 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:28:01am

re: #514 austin_blue

I wish the stimulus package could have been packaged differently. The idea was basically sound, a continuation of the Bush policies,

No it wasn;t. You're confusing the "stimulus package" with the TARP program. TARP can be debated as needed or not to bolster the banking/ credit/ insurance industries.

"STIMULUS" is nothing more than 97% payback (kickbacks) for Obamas/ Democrats supporters pet projects

525 babes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:28:15am

The mission of Rolling Thunder: The major function of Rolling Thunder®, Inc. is to publicize POW-MIA issues: To educate the public that many American prisoners of war were left behind after all previous wars and to help correct the past and to protect future veterans from being left behind should they become prisoners of war-missing in action.

We are also committed to helping American veterans from all wars.

526 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:28:29am

re: #496 Truck Monkey

Hudson Hornet!
/

I once drag raced with a Hudson Hornet coupe with Twin H power back in the old F stock class. I'd just go to the strip, race, win, pick up my trophy and go home. 308 cu flathead, 6 cylinder with 170 HP.

527 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:29:29am

re: #516 realwest

With the passage of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA), funds are being made available across the full range of federal agencies for special, two-year awards relating to President Obama's recovery plan. This web page has been developed by the office of Dr. David Korn, Vice Provost for Research, to provide the following up-to-date information about opportunities of interest to Harvard principal investigators and administrators:

The latest news and notices from federal agencies;
Links to RFPs as they are introduced by specific agencies;
Links to federal agencies that have implemented Recovery websites;
Other relevant recovery information as it becomes available.
Once a specific RFP has been identified as a potential source of funds, please be in contact with your school's research administration team and Office of Sponsored Projects for pre-award processes related to these special programs. If you identify through your own sources related information that should be widely shared, please send it to Greg Llacer in the Office of the Vice Provost for Research.

SNIP

528 babes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:29:33am

re: #522 alegrias

I started seeing them on Friday on Constitution Ave and on the GW Parkway .. cool .. way cool.

529 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:31:55am

RE INDY

My mind isn't letting me recall the famous old sportswriter that said it, but at the beginning of that years race, in the press box, he looked at his fellow writers and stated

"gentlemen start your coffins"

530 VegasRick  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:32:24am

re: #518 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I once knew a fool who tried to become an art collector,
......... but he and his Monet were soon parted.

/sorry, it's a compulsive disorder

You gotta Gogh.

531 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:32:27am

I'm out for the day, lizards.
Have good one!

532 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:32:36am

re: #499 Afrocity
Good morning Afrocity - just did a quick read of your article and I have three quick observations: a) minor very minor quibble, but Iron Fist was not in the Military b) there are a ton of lizards - or at least a hundred or more who served in uniform and c) although I loved what little I could read while quickly fact checking, as you requested, you should be aware that Memorial Day is NOT a day to honor Active Duty Troops nor veterans. It is a day to honor and remember those members of the Armed Forces who gave their lives in defense of America.
I, of course, have no qualms about anyone giving kudos to our Active Duty Military or to Veterans, but think the distinction is an important one.
And I want to thank you for posting that comment at your blog - I could tell how much emotion was put into it and how well written it was, too.

533 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:33:13am

re: #514 austin_blue

I wish the stimulus package could have been packaged differently. The idea was basically sound, a continuation of the Bush policies, but it smells bad. I have read as much as I can about the various bailouts, and as a layman, I am still somewhat confused. It appears that the problem is not the mortgages and commercial loans (which was the problem in the '86 crash which resulted in the S&L bailouts), but the various derivatives that were floated that were *based* upon the original loans. It was layer upon layer of risk that was piled on the banking system, and then insured by groups like AIG. So when the party ended, pretty much everybody was left holding various pieces of paper that were impossible to value. Hence the gridlock in loans. The sad thing, to me, was that the people who originally sold the suspect paper had already made their profits and were off stage, grinning.

I suppose we could have let everyone go bankrupt because the basis of "wealth" was fictional, but then where would we be? Could we really afford another shutdown of the world economy? I just don't know....

I'll take option two, let them go bankrupt, it's part of what happens in the business cycle, and the industry would have self-corrected, those boys like money and they would have figured out where they went wrong.

So, now we have all the makings of a Euro styled soft-socialism, that can now be built upon. Obama now has the government hands far enough into some major banks and business, and he will expand on this in the near future. Health care, fuel standards, carbon emissions and so on.

He will start stepping on your social liberalism when he starts telling you what you can smoke, what you can drink, what you can eat, what kind of car you should drive etc.

534 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:34:32am

re: #533 Walter L. Newton

He will start stepping on your social liberalism when he starts telling you what you can smoke, what you can drink, what you can eat, what kind of car you should drive etc.

Coming soon to a GM dealrership near you !

535 alegrias  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:35:11am

re: #528 babes

I started seeing them on Friday on Constitution Ave and on the GW Parkway .. cool .. way cool.

* * * *
I'm suprised motorcycles haven't been outlawed for environmental damage to the planet by Rep. Henry Waxman's UN-drafted 900 page cap & trade legislation.

Did anyone here see footage of that 900 page dawg being speed-read into the record? You couldn't understand a word! They didn't post it online, just tried ramming cap & trade through.

No Hawgs for you!

536 Truck Monkey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:36:44am

re: #533 Walter L. Newton

I'll take option two, let them go bankrupt, it's part of what happens in the business cycle, and the industry would have self-corrected, those boys like money and they would have figured out where they went wrong.

So, now we have all the makings of a Euro styled soft-socialism, that can now be built upon. Obama now has the government hands far enough into some major banks and business, and he will expand on this in the near future. Health care, fuel standards, carbon emissions and so on.

He will start stepping on your social liberalism when he starts telling you what you can smoke, what you can drink, what you can eat, what kind of car you should drive etc.

Creative destruction is essential in capitalism. Socialism subsidizes failing industries and companies. If we practiced socialism at the turn of the 1900's we would still have a buggy whip and buggy manufacturing industry.

537 rollingdivision  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:36:49am

re: #533 Walter L. Newton

It's a matter of freedom. Empowering politicians and the government comes completely by taking away freedom of individuals. It is one of the truly zero sum games.

538 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:37:07am

re: #530 VegasRick

You gotta Gogh.

At least you didn't Picasso-so comeback for that one.

539 austin_blue  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:37:20am

re: #524 sattv4u2

I wish the stimulus package could have been packaged differently. The idea was basically sound, a continuation of the Bush policies,

No it wasn;t. You're confusing the "stimulus package" with the TARP program. TARP can be debated as needed or not to bolster the banking/ credit/ insurance industries.

"STIMULUS" is nothing more than 97% payback (kickbacks) for Obamas/ Democrats supporters pet projects

Well, if you mean the "shovel ready' projects, I suppose that could be argued. But from where I sit, it appears that a lot of the money is going to support unemployment benefits and health care programs within the various States, which would be otherwise have to be picked up by taxpayers within each State. A lot of the rest of the cash is going to infrastructure improvements like highways and public transit, and basic technological research, which has been sorely ignored by the Feds in recent administrations (both Dems and 'Pubs). I think the 97% number might be a little hyperbolic.....

540 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:37:38am

re: #527 MandyManners
Um, good afternoon Mandy! You had a [snip] at the end of that post - does that mean that there's more coming from you on that subject?
And forgive me, I'm trying to multi-task here and don't quite get the point of that comment. Sorry!

541 babes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:37:41am

Obama wasn't scheduled to meet them ---but was eventually was shamed into meeting them before he went off to Camp David. Last year, GW welcomed them with open arms!

542 VegasRick  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:39:26am

re: #538 pre-Boomer Marine brat

At least you didn't Picasso-so comeback for that one.

I'm gonna have to brush up on my art puns.

543 Afrocity  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:40:42am

re: #532 realwest

Good morning Afrocity - just did a quick read of your article and I have three quick observations: a) minor very minor quibble, but Iron Fist was not in the Military b) there are a ton of lizards - or at least a hundred or more who served in uniform and c) although I loved what little I could read while quickly fact checking, as you requested, you should be aware that Memorial Day is NOT a day to honor Active Duty Troops nor veterans. It is a day to honor and remember those members of the Armed Forces who gave their lives in defense of America.
I, of course, have no qualms about anyone giving kudos to our Active Duty Military or to Veterans, but think the distinction is an important one.
And I want to thank you for posting that comment at your blog - I could tell how much emotion was put into it and how well written it was, too.

Hi realwest. I am aware that Memorial Day is for fallen soldiers as opposed to Veteran's Day but I feel it necessary to mention the active ones because there is such a strong antagonism against our troops. I also don't know a ton of lizards except the ones I have interacted with. I will not remove Iron Fist because he has been my one of my LGF mentors and a soldier in the war against liberals and socialism. For me Memorial Day symbolizes my thoughts towards ALL of our troops, living, dead and retired. This is what it has meant for my family. However my posts, are about men who served who are dead.Just because one passes away at home after duty does not mean that his passing was not a long term effect of his duty.

544 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:41:11am

re: #542 VegasRick

I'm gonna have to brush up on my art puns.

Heh, I'm too mellow this AM, and anyway ... there's a new thread -->

545 AuntAcid  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:41:55am

re: #542 VegasRick

I'm gonna have to brush up on my art puns.

well framed...

546 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:44:37am

re: #539 austin_blue

Well, if you mean the "shovel ready' projects, I suppose that could be argued
No ,, I meant EXACTLY what I said. Only 3% of the "stimulus" monies is scheduled to be spent this year. Please tell me what is stimulative about that? The economy is arguably rebounding already. If that trend continues into the 4th quarter, would you agree that the other "stimulus money" scheduled to be allocated in 2010 and 2011 be cancelled?

547 austin_blue  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:44:58am

re: #533 Walter L. Newton

I'll take option two, let them go bankrupt, it's part of what happens in the business cycle, and the industry would have self-corrected, those boys like money and they would have figured out where they went wrong.

So, now we have all the makings of a Euro styled soft-socialism, that can now be built upon. Obama now has the government hands far enough into some major banks and business, and he will expand on this in the near future. Health care, fuel standards, carbon emissions and so on.

He will start stepping on your social liberalism when he starts telling you what you can smoke, what you can drink, what you can eat, what kind of car you should drive etc.

I understand your qualms. Hopefully, what we will see happen is a recovery in various bank and auto stocks, now owned by the government, which can be sold at a profit to lay off the government spending that saved those companies in the first place. That is my understanding of the plan. I hope that is correct. The government shouldn't be in the business of micromanaging private firms. Rather, it should set up enough regulatory rules that prevents companies from selling unregulated financial instruments that got us into this cock-up in the first place.

548 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:45:31am

re: #539 austin_blue

Well, if you mean the "shovel ready' projects, I suppose that could be argued. But from where I sit, it appears that a lot of the money is going to support unemployment benefits and health care programs within the various States, which would be otherwise have to be picked up by taxpayers within each State. A lot of the rest of the cash is going to infrastructure improvements like highways and public transit, and basic technological research, which has been sorely ignored by the Feds in recent administrations (both Dems and 'Pubs). I think the 97% number might be a little hyperbolic.....

let me explain "shovel ready projects." State and local governments have been using the same union based contractors and/or favored contractors for years. The money filtering down to these projects do not create NEW jobs. At least not any new jobs that help the average American. The same contractors get the money, they pay the same engineers and designers that they have had on employ forever, and that's what takes up most of the money. This doesn't open up any high level jobs to anyone.

And who gets the money at the bottom. The same Illegal workers who have been doing this work for years.

This money won't help NEW contractors and NEW engineers and NEW designers and NEW support personal.

It's a good old boy network, and Obama just opened the financial floodgates to feed them.

How does this stimulus create NEW jobs? It doesn't.

549 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:47:05am

re: #547 austin_blue

I understand your qualms. Hopefully, what we will see happen is a recovery in various bank and auto stocks, now owned by the government, which can be sold at a profit to lay off the government spending that saved those companies in the first place. That is my understanding of the plan. I hope that is correct. The government shouldn't be in the business of micromanaging private firms. Rather, it should set up enough regulatory rules that prevents companies from selling unregulated financial instruments that got us into this cock-up in the first place.

If you have to say "hopefully," then there is a problem.

550 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:47:46am

re: #548 Walter L. Newton

Ahh ,,,, but there's the rub. Notice that The One changed the metrics from CREATE NEW JOBS to Create AND SAVE jobs. How the hell does one quantify IF a job was "saved" or not due to this crappola!?!?!

551 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:49:31am

re: #543 Afrocity
"Just because one passes away at home after duty does not mean that his passing was not a long term effect of his duty." Very true indeed. One former LGFer, USMC 1968 passed away late last year from prostate cancer and there is a growing body of evidence that those of us who served in Vietnam contracted various cancers from exposure to Dioxin (the active ingredient in the defoliant Agent Orange - or Purple Haze - depending on the coloring the pilots used to enable them to see where the Dioxin was landing) and other factors.
But if a veteran has passed away, for causes completely beyond his/her service in the military, I have absolutely no quarrel at all in including them on Memorial Day.
And, of course, everyone is entitled to interpret Memorial Day and to honor those whom one chooses, but as the sole remaining survivor of my own little "band of brothers" and having lost family near and dear to my heart in war, I prefer to think of Memorial Day as day to honor all those who made the "ultimate sacrifice" for our Nation.

552 MacDuff  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:49:34am

re: #537 rollingdivision

It's a matter of freedom. Empowering politicians and the government comes completely by taking away freedom of individuals. It is one of the truly zero sum games.

I was considering that very thing yesterday, but mainly in terms of the auto companies. Since I find writing cathartic, I spent a good part of the day venting my spleen on the subject.

It's very disturbing, indeed.

553 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:51:49am

re: #547 austin_blue

re: #549 Walter L. Newton

SHELL GAME ,,,,

The way that Obama has framed it now is like me saying i'm going on a diet and lost 100 pounds. The math I use is as follows.

I weigh 300 lbs and want to diet
Prior to the diet I was gaining 10 lbs a month, projection 90 lbs in 9 months
I lose 20 LBS
I also did not GAIN the 90 lbs

Total "LOSS AND SAVED ,,,,, 110 LBS

I now weigh 280 !

Obamath

554 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:55:50am

re: #547 austin_blue
Well

The government shouldn't be in the business of micromanaging private firms. Rather, it should set up enough regulatory rules that prevents companies from selling unregulated financial instruments that got us into this cock-up in the first place.

we could start by either eliminating or severely limiting the Community Reinvestment Act (first signed into law by Jimmy Carter, then "revitalized" by amendment signed by Bill Clinton). The CRA LITERALLY created the "Sub Prime Mortgage" which has broken so many people, mostly those it was intended to help in the first place and gave the financial markets another "toy" to play with.

555 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:57:56am

re: #550 sattv4u2

Ahh ,,,, but there's the rub. Notice that The One changed the metrics from CREATE NEW JOBS to Create AND SAVE jobs. How the hell does one quantify IF a job was "saved" or not due to this crappola!?!?!

And that's what I said, in a more verbose way than you did, but, it comes down to the same thing. He's moved the target, and yes, maybe he is "saving" some jobs, but it the same "old boy" club that we have seen benefit from government handouts for ever.

And this money also filters through state employees hands, and they get a cut of the pie, managing the programs at the state level.

The bulk of this money will not create new jobs, it will simply maintain the honey pot for those beholden to the government.

556 irongrampa  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:01:24am

re: #526 avanti

Heh-we used to have some guy at our local strip run an Opel station wagon in Q Stock do that.

557 Altermite  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:57:11am

re: #516 realwest

"...but its important to get one's facts straight before lambasting a college for taking money while refusing recruitment." NO it isn't. As a general proposition, any college or University which receives Federal Funding and they refuses to allow the Armed Forces to recruit on campus, the same way they allow other businesses to recruit on campus, then my opinion is that that college or university should NOT receive Federal Funding. And Liberty U. isn't worth wasting my time over researching the issue.
Moreover, I find it hard to believe that Harvard wasn't receiving any government funding in say it's science department, doing research for, among others, the DoD. You have a link to that statement of fact that they weren't receiving Federal Funds of any type?
And finally remember the whole reason why I find it so abhorrent for a public school to teach ID/YEC in it's science department is because it is FUNDED by taxpayer dollars.

You may find it hard to believe, but they weren't. Harvard WAS NOT receiving federal funding. When they first banned recruiters, as part of their statement they acknowledged that they would no longer be accepting federal money. Harvard has a massive endowment, and they claimed that they would be relying on that.

558 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 12:05:39pm
559 Aye Pod  Sun, May 24, 2009 2:46:20pm
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