On May 25th this year we honor the men and women of the US military who have died serving our country. As we fire up the barbecues and crack open our assorted beverages today, don’t forget to spend a few moments contemplating their sacrifices and giving thanks for these heroes and champions of freedom.
The National Memorial Day Parade in Washington DC is scheduled to begin tomorrow at 2 pm Eastern.
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debutaunt Sun, May 24, 2009 10:52:52am |
My neighbor survived the Bataan Death March and was one of the Great Escape survivors. I think of him often.
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VegasRick Sun, May 24, 2009 10:53:16am |
As we fire up the barbecues and crack open our assorted beverages, don’t forget to spend a few moments contemplating their sacrifices and giving thanks for these heroes and champions of freedom.
Hear, hear!
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Kronocide Sun, May 24, 2009 10:56:13am |
Rossmoor man's stint with French Resistance
Such an inspiring story.
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Charles Johnson Sun, May 24, 2009 10:57:03am |
Oops! I had scheduled this post to go up tomorrow, but accidentally entered the wrong day for the auto-posting form. I corrected the references to note that tomorrow is the actual date, but since a lot of people will be celebrating today I'll leave the post up.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, May 24, 2009 10:57:56am |
re: #7 Charles
Oops! I had scheduled this post to go up tomorrow, but accidentally entered the wrong day for the auto-posting form. I corrected the references to note that tomorrow is the actual date, but since a lot of people will be celebrating today I'll leave the post up.
Having problems with the time machine again? ;)
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infopimp Sun, May 24, 2009 10:58:36am |
I'm hanging a US flag, much to the chagrin of my NorCal, America hating neighbors (one is flying a UN Flag today, I am NOT joking).
Slightly OT, but... in case you run into any creationist family members:
How to Argue with a Creationist
[Link: skeptoid.com...]
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opnion Sun, May 24, 2009 10:58:51am |
If you really want to get a sense of what this means, visit the "Wall" in DC.
Seeing all of the names of those who did not return from Viet Nam is moving. It is best at night.
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pingjockey Sun, May 24, 2009 10:59:21am |
re: #7 Charles
No harm Charles. Thank you for posting this.
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Lincolntf Sun, May 24, 2009 10:59:53am |
re: #9 UberInfidel67
Nothing says "Memorial Day" like hot chocolate and ice skating.
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 24, 2009 11:00:17am |
re: #12 infopimp
I live among moonbats too. In the past putting a flag out was a dangerous thing to do. It'll be interesting to see if I see more flags this year.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:00:27am |
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pingjockey Sun, May 24, 2009 11:00:35am |
re: #12 infopimp
A Useless Nitwits flag? I'd be rigging a waterballon slingshot/catapult and declare war!
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opnion Sun, May 24, 2009 11:00:47am |
re: #12 infopimp
I have a neighbor who posts "wanted" posters for the Founding Fathers on the Fourth of July. Seriously
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Randall Gross Sun, May 24, 2009 11:01:01am |
Time warpage happens when you pre-date posts.
You might want to correct this:
February 25th every year
Last Monday in May, date varies
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Walter L. Newton Sun, May 24, 2009 11:01:25am |
re: #7 Charles
Oops! I had scheduled this post to go up tomorrow, but accidentally entered the wrong day for the auto-posting form. I corrected the references to note that tomorrow is the actual date, but since a lot of people will be celebrating today I'll leave the post up.
That's kind of freaky. So, if you ever knew you were dying, you could pre-load LGF for a many days/years out as you wanted to, and the system (as long as the server and storage space was active) would go on with out you. That's so cool. No not you dying, but...
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Kronocide Sun, May 24, 2009 11:01:37am |
I have a copy of Saving Private Ryan in DTS. It truly is my favorite movie ever.
If I can get some work done, I might watch it. Brings strong emotions and tears to my eyes every time. They truly are the Greatest Generation.
Sincere LGF Salute to all who have and still do serve.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 11:02:05am |
re: #7 Charles
Oops! I had scheduled this post to go up tomorrow, but accidentally entered the wrong day for the auto-posting form. I corrected the references to note that tomorrow is the actual date, but since a lot of people will be celebrating today I'll leave the post up.
Why not celebrate it 2 or even 3 days. It's deserved!
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RedHouseBlueState Sun, May 24, 2009 11:02:24am |
A heartfelt thanks to all American veterans, for a debt that can never be repaid.
With a special shout out to my Great Grandfather Seymour J. Palmer, Co. E, 50th NY Volunteer Engineers, Army of the Potomac. Enlisted at 14 years of age, served all four years of the Civil War, and even survived Little Round Top at the Battle of Gettysburg!
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pingjockey Sun, May 24, 2009 11:02:32am |
re: #22 opnion
Seriously, I'd have some issues with such neighbors.
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Kronocide Sun, May 24, 2009 11:03:33am |
re: #24 Walter L. Newton
Dude... dude! Heads exploding in perpetuity? Brilliant!
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 11:03:43am |
To my friends and fellow soldiers who gave their lives in Vietnam (the War of the Unforgivens) and all the others that have given their all to give me the good life I have today: Thank you from the bottom of my soul. May you rest easy and in peace and freedom.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 11:04:28am |
*eyes down...hand over heart...*
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The Shadow Do Sun, May 24, 2009 11:04:53am |
Memorial Day is the day they run the 500. Least that's how I see. Now, if it was a rainout, then it would be tomorrow! So, well done Charles.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, May 24, 2009 11:05:47am |
re: #29 BigPapa
Dude... dude! Heads exploding in perpetuity? Brilliant!
I wanted to add something like that to my post, but I didn't know how to spell that big word.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 24, 2009 11:05:53am |
To all of our brave men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. We will never forget.
The County of Los Angeles put on a great Memorial Day event yesterday in Arcadia, which I attended. Someone there was promoting the following videos:
[Link: www.ww2-reflections.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 11:05:56am |
re: #27 RedHouseBlueState
My Great-Great Grandfather died at Antietam...Y'all.
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Randall Gross Sun, May 24, 2009 11:06:18am |
Salutes and memories for my Uncle Johnny who came back from Viet Nam shrouded with a flag.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 11:06:26am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:07:14am |
re: #35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My Great-Great Grandfather died at Antietam...Y'all.
Which part of it?
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Afrocity Sun, May 24, 2009 11:07:16am |
Today or tomorrow does not matter. It is a weekend celebration because one day is not enough. I also thank and honor anyone who has served in the military. Thank you.
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debutaunt Sun, May 24, 2009 11:07:21am |
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 11:07:26am |
re: #32 The Shadow Do
Memorial Day is the day they run the 500. Least that's how I see. Now, if it was a rainout, then it would be tomorrow! So, well done Charles.
They're running the Indy 500 right now.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, May 24, 2009 11:07:42am |
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 11:08:30am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 24, 2009 11:09:01am |
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Macker Sun, May 24, 2009 11:09:13am |
re: #7 Charles
Oops! I had scheduled this post to go up tomorrow, but accidentally entered the wrong day for the auto-posting form. I corrected the references to note that tomorrow is the actual date, but since a lot of people will be celebrating today I'll leave the post up.
Is it possible this would be a "sticky post" until Tuesday?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 11:09:23am |
re: #44 Walter L. Newton
In Antietam. What were you doing in Antietam?
It is a fascinating place to visit. Very neat place. Beautiful setting, awful battle.
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The Shadow Do Sun, May 24, 2009 11:09:48am |
re: #42 Soona'
They're running the Indy 500 right now.
Greatest spectacle in racing. Especially if you are watching the infield activities with a good set of binoculars.
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opnion Sun, May 24, 2009 11:10:06am |
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 11:10:07am |
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 24, 2009 11:10:24am |
I have a Memorial Day Post up today, and another one scheduled for tomorrow.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, May 24, 2009 11:11:03am |
re: #35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My Great-Great Grandfather died at Antietam...Y'all.
Don't y'all call it "Sharpsburg"?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:11:58am |
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Randall Gross Sun, May 24, 2009 11:12:28am |
re: #52 Alouette
I have a Memorial Day Post up today, and another one scheduled for tomorrow.
Me too, not only that I cheated and took Friday off as well
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 11:12:35am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 11:13:56am |
I am one of six children.
To my oldest sister (Army, Ret.), Second oldest sister (Air Force, Ret.), My older brother (Army, Ret., Desert Storm Vet), and my older sister (Air Force, Ret.)....
Thank you for your service also.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:14:18am |
re: #57 Soona'
I call it "Yankeedeathtrap".
I call it "McClellan's Finest Hour"
/that is, I would if I could get my tongue out of my cheek so I could talk
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 11:14:57am |
Powell Defends GOP Credentials, Calls for More Inclusive Party
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell shoots down criticism from talk show host Rush Limbaugh and former Vice President Dick Cheney.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
But you voted for and endorsed A Democrat? And one with NO experience against your supposed good friend McCain. Your definition of Republican and Loyalty must be different than mine?
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Sharmuta Sun, May 24, 2009 11:15:45am |
re: #52 Alouette
I have a Memorial Day Post up today, and another one scheduled for tomorrow.
They're worth it.
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 11:16:40am |
re: #60 Nevergiveup
Powell Defends GOP Credentials, Calls for More Inclusive Party
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell shoots down criticism from talk show host Rush Limbaugh and former Vice President Dick Cheney.[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
But you voted for and endorsed A Democrat? And one with NO experience against your supposed good friend McCain. Your definition of Republican and Loyalty must be different than mine?
Powell can go fuck himself as far as I'm concerned.
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 24, 2009 11:16:56am |
Gates of Vienna has a post up about this year's CounterJihad Summit which took place in secret last week. No big names were mentioned, mostly small time anonymous bloggers. They concluded the report with this dire prediction/wish.....
....all across Europe the right-wing “xenophobic” parties are rising in the polls and gaining seats in local and national elections. Next month’s European parliamentary election will likely result in the entry of Sverigedemokraterna and Libertas into the EP, as well as more seats for Vlaams Belang, the PVV, Dansk Volkeparti, and other nationalist parties.Some analysts make the mistake of relying on linear extrapolation to predict the future, but historical processes do not follow linear patterns. Affairs tend to proceed smoothly enough for a time, but all the while tension, resentment, and rage are building. Then comes a relatively small event — Gavrilo Princip pulling the trigger, for example — and the world is irrevocably changed.
We’re heading into one of those discontinuities right now, and sooner than most people think.
Lovely people.
/
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wiffersnapper Sun, May 24, 2009 11:16:57am |
I've never had a family member in the US military (flat feet, too young for the draft, etc.), but I do have a grandfather who served the German Army in WWII. Got busted for desertion and escaped prison over the Alps to become a POW for the Allies. I've never met him, but I want to (he ruined my grandmother's family with a nasty divorce, so there's been a moratorium on ever trying to speak positively about him pretty much).
I know some servicemen right now, and you can bet I'll pay my respects tomorrow.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 11:17:35am |
(Little request here!)
Lizards who served? Can you put up your Branch's Emblem as an avatar?
I think that'd be cool. I can just spend a couple of days dinging ya!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 24, 2009 11:17:49am |
Remembering our nephew SSgt. Rod, crew chief, 11th MEU, HMM-166, USMC, killed on Valentine's Day, 2002. You are forever with us in our hearts.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, May 24, 2009 11:19:02am |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
Gates of Vienna has a post up about this year's CounterJihad Summit which took place in secret last week. No big names were mentioned, mostly small time anonymous bloggers. They concluded the report with this dire prediction/wish.....
Lovely people.
/
This is a very veiled threat, if I am reading this right (right?).
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 24, 2009 11:19:27am |
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 11:20:25am |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
Gates of Vienna has a post up about this year's CounterJihad Summit which took place in secret last week. No big names were mentioned, mostly small time anonymous bloggers. They concluded the report with this dire prediction/wish.....
Lovely people.
/
Maybe the Mayans are right. 2012?
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Charles Johnson Sun, May 24, 2009 11:20:29am |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
Gates of Vienna has a post up about this year's CounterJihad Summit which took place in secret last week. No big names were mentioned, mostly small time anonymous bloggers. They concluded the report with this dire prediction/wish.....
Lovely people.
/
Disgusting. So now they're holding their little hate group meetings in secret so they can't be exposed ahead of time. What do they have to hide? (Never mind -- I already know the answer.)
Meanwhile, at the "Infidel Bloggers Alliance" website today, there's a post advocating "culturism" -- the new label they're trying to give white nationalism to make it more acceptable, so that groups like the BNP and Vlaams Belang can gain power more quickly.
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Sharmuta Sun, May 24, 2009 11:20:42am |
I feel blessed that I come from military men- both of my Grand Fathers, an Uncle, and a few cousins. We've been blessed that they've all come home.
For those who did not fare as fortunately as I- may God comfort you, and know many of your fellow Countrymen value their service. They gave their all, and we will not forget them.
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Randall Gross Sun, May 24, 2009 11:21:08am |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
Gates of Vienna has a post up about this year's CounterJihad Summit which took place in secret last week. No big names were mentioned, mostly small time anonymous bloggers. They concluded the report with this dire prediction/wish.....
Lovely people.
/
For those not catching the reference Gavrilo Princip was the instrument of the Serbian Black Hand group who kicked off the first World War by assassinating Arch Duke Ferdinand. In other words he was a Serbian terrorist.
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jorline Sun, May 24, 2009 11:21:11am |
Bless our military.
Those who have fought and the brave heroes who continue to fight for our freedom.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 24, 2009 11:21:22am |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
a relatively small event — Gavrilo Princip pulling the trigger, for example
Fool. The writer doesn't even know the historical facts. he makes it sound as if Princip was an abberation, a lone person that just happened to pull a trigger THAT INSTANT, rather than knowing that he was part of an entire movement!
As you said ,,, lovely people
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 24, 2009 11:22:21am |
re: #74 Thanos
Ah, thanks. I was just about to google that.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, May 24, 2009 11:23:06am |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
Sounds more like the loons are looking for an excuse, an excuse no matter how peripheral to their "cause", to start the conflagration.
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Zimriel Sun, May 24, 2009 11:23:36am |
I have a number of dear relatives who are no longer with us, who happened to be veterans, but they luckily survived combat and passed away peacefully years later. So Veteran's Day has more personal resonance for me than this one.
Except for the point that they COULD have died in combat, and that many of their comrades did die helping to save their lives. And our lives.
So in memory of those who did not survive to help Granddad remember his war stories, may you rest in peace and may we continue to keep the United Kingdom, United States, Israel, and other free nations places you can be proud of.
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Randall Gross Sun, May 24, 2009 11:24:20am |
re: #77 Killgore Trout
Ah, thanks. I was just about to google that.
The Pan Serbian movement is rising again, that's why all the outreach to Orthodox Russia.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, May 24, 2009 11:25:33am |
re: #76 sattv4u2
a relatively small event — Gavrilo Princip pulling the trigger, for example
Fool. The writer doesn't even know the historical facts. he makes it sound as if Princip was an abberation, a lone person that just happened to pull a trigger THAT INSTANT, rather than knowing that he was part of an entire movement!
As you said ,,, lovely people
Ignorance of the facts makes it easier to support one's agenda.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:26:19am |
re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(Little request here!)
Lizards who served? Can you put up your Branch's Emblem as an avatar?
I think that'd be cool. I can just spend a couple of days dinging ya!
Have done so, but with a twist.
The Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club is our name for the Seventh Fleet ships which served off Vietnam during the war.
/yeah, and the Atlantic ships too
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 11:27:08am |
re: #83 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Much cooler than my request! Thanks!
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Taqyia2Me Sun, May 24, 2009 11:27:19am |
In memory of all who paid the full measure, with thoughts and prayers for their families and the strongest of admonitions to all of us to make sure they have not died in vain...
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 11:28:53am |
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 11:28:55am |
re: #83 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Have done so, but with a twist.
The Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club is our name for the Seventh Fleet ships which served off Vietnam during the war.
/yeah, and the Atlantic ships too
I would if I knew how.
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MacDuff Sun, May 24, 2009 11:29:09am |
As we honor our nations fallen, let us also honor the nation for which they fell, for the two are inseparable.
We are a warrior nation of sorts, but our warriors are, and always have been defenders, not conquerors. We have defended our own nation, as well as peoples in foreign lands who could not defend themselves. The warriors we honor have paid the ultimate price to make the world a better place and their sacrifice has not been in vain.
This is what separates us from previous great civilizations and that difference is the one that defines us.
Imagine the history of the past 100 years without the United States. That history would have been far more brutal but for the sacrifices that this country has made in the blood of its warriors and the treasure of its generous people. The world today would be a far darker but not for our existence and intervention.
In the history of mankind, what other nation has so selflessly contributed to the safety, security and overall betterment of mankind and literally asked for nothing in return but its own safety and security? We have taken the great philosophies of past great civilizations and, in many ways perfected them, at least to the extent than man can perfect anything. While our history is not without its sinister periods, slavery in particular, we have confronted those evils and changed them. We have made mistakes, admitted them, and looked ahead to a brighter future rather than wallowing in the past.
So, as we remember those who have given their all for this bold idea that we call “the United States of America”, let us renew and recommit ourselves to that idea. We are now living in perilous times, fractured in many ways and for many reasons. There are those who find that apologies are in order and placation of the enemies of all we hold dear is the easiest road to peace and prosperity, for our nation and the world. I reject that notion.
The road to peace and prosperity has never been, and never will be, short and easy; neither for us or the world. It is only with perseverance, faith in our abilities as Americans and unswerving belief in America’s singular uniqueness in the whole of man’s history that this journey can be completed and we must lead, not follow.
Those who we honor on this Memorial Day gave us the map; all we need do is follow it.
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Macker Sun, May 24, 2009 11:29:41am |
re: #85 Taqyia2Me
Considering we have someone who specializes in Taqiyya and pays lip service to, if not outright dishonors, those Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines who have paid the ultimate sacrifice in defense of our country, We The People will continue to remember.
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Charles Johnson Sun, May 24, 2009 11:30:01am |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
...Affairs tend to proceed smoothly enough for a time, but all the while tension, resentment, and rage are building. Then comes a relatively small event — Gavrilo Princip pulling the trigger, for example — and the world is irrevocably changed.
We’re heading into one of those discontinuities right now, and sooner than most people think....
They're just salivating over the prospect of killin' them some Muslims.
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, May 24, 2009 11:30:28am |
re: #8 FurryOldGuyJeans
Having problems with the time machine again? ;)
That's what he gets for trusting the Doctor and his wonky TARDIS.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:30:54am |
re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Much cooler than my request! Thanks!
Sunbathing on the decks during languid tropical cruises.
Beautiful girls coming aboard for our entertainment.
/how th' hell come my carrier only got Martha Ray?!?!
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, May 24, 2009 11:31:42am |
re: #92 Charles
They're just salivating over the prospect of killin' them some Muslims.
And after that, the Jews.
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Macker Sun, May 24, 2009 11:31:49am |
re: #92 Charles
They're just salivating over the prospect of killin' them some Muslims.
If you were referring to them Serbs, I didn't think they were capable of yellin' Yeeee-HAWWWWWW!
/
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, May 24, 2009 11:31:58am |
re: #89 Soona'
I would if I knew how.
Top left, My Account. Log in, and you are given the ability to upload a picture.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:32:24am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, May 24, 2009 11:32:43am |
re: #92 Charles
They're just salivating over the prospect of killin' them some Muslims.
I doubt it would stop at some Muslims, they have a few scores to settle with "appeasers".
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 11:33:05am |
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 11:34:12am |
re: #98 FurryOldGuyJeans
Top left, My Account. Log in, and you are given the ability to upload a picture.
Thanks. Now I have to go looking for a picture. ;p
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 11:34:42am |
re: #4 BigPapa
Rossmoor man's stint with French Resistance
Such an inspiring story.
He's a neighbor.
A historical society did video interviews a few years back with any Vets who lived here. Quite a line up of both guys and gals.
They are played over our Rossmoor cable channel occasionally.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, May 24, 2009 11:35:26am |
re: #105 Soona'
Thanks. Now I have to go looking for a picture. ;p
I pointed the way, you have to complete the journey. ;)
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 11:35:45am |
re: #100 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Changing your avatar?
I do like my green football. I mean I waited a long time to get that football.
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Killian Bundy Sun, May 24, 2009 11:36:16am |
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Zimriel Sun, May 24, 2009 11:36:36am |
re: #86 Macker
Powell is a Demo☭rat now. Frak him.
On any other weekend, I'd agree.
But on this weekend I must remember his service in Vietnam, for pulling two guys out of a helicopter crash.
I know, our EMS guys do the same thing, but (1) I appreciate their service too and (2) they don't have to fly away from friends and family to a warzone to go do it.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:36:40am |
re: #102 Soona'
Army. 1st Signal Brigade is my combat patch.
Is so, download it to your computer. This one's small enough to use. (Charles puts a limit of the byte-size of the file.)
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MacDuff Sun, May 24, 2009 11:36:58am |
re: #103 buzzsawmonkey
Excellent.
Expect an angry response from Ward Churchill's sock puppet.
Thank you, and as far as Ward Churchill, fuck him and all the sock puppets he rode in on.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:37:24am |
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Randall Gross Sun, May 24, 2009 11:37:28am |
re: #86 Macker
You know what? If Powell decided to run for Senate in Maryland or something I would back him as a Republican simply because the alternative would be worse. Screw purism.
Here's a question for you: Would you back him against Kerry?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:38:12am |
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Killian Bundy Sun, May 24, 2009 11:38:37am |
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unrealizedviewpoint Sun, May 24, 2009 11:38:56am |
re: #8 FurryOldGuyJeans
Having problems with the time machine again? ;)
For Sale -
Broken Time Machine
Buttons all stuck, doesn't go in reverse, only moves forward at regular speed, $22,000 OBO, must pickup at Denver Airport.
call 555-Lizard
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, May 24, 2009 11:39:16am |
re: #115 Thanos
You know what? If Powell decided to run for Senate in Maryland or something I would back him as a Republican simply because the alternative would be worse. Screw purism.
Here's a question for you: Would you back him against Kerry?
Hmmmm, I'd have to think about that.
Yes, hell yes, and fuck yeah!
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debutaunt Sun, May 24, 2009 11:39:26am |
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redc1c4 Sun, May 24, 2009 11:40:11am |
re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(Little request here!)
Lizards who served? Can you put up your Branch's Emblem as an avatar?
I think that'd be cool. I can just spend a couple of days dinging ya!
like this?
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 24, 2009 11:40:16am |
re: #115 Thanos
You know what? If Powell decided to run for Senate in Maryland or something I would back him as a Republican simply because the alternative would be worse. Screw purism.
Here's a question for you: Would you back him against Kerry?
re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yes.
yes also ,,, and then pressure him DAILY reminding him of who elected him
(and I think you meant Massachusetts, not maryland ,,, or if so, not Kerry) !?!?!?!?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, May 24, 2009 11:40:17am |
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JHW Sun, May 24, 2009 11:40:29am |
I've recently been checking out family history (thanks ancestry dot com) and today it's appropriate for me to remember those, many of them,who have not been remembered for decades .
Mom's great-Grandad 93rd New York Infantry, 1861-5, his brother 96th New York Infantry, 1861-5. Mom's brother, 7th Infantry Division,US Army, Korea, 1950, very severely wounded at the Chosin reservoir (they were there with the USMC), still living.
Dad, 8th Air Force, B-17 crewman, 1942-5. Long deceased. His Grandad,G.O.W., very interesting, 10th Michigan Cavalry, 1863-5, ran away from home age 16 "to go squirrel hunting", and a pregnant girl was involved who gave birth to Grandma in 1863. He came back from the war and the couple adopted a very young orphaned girl of an Army comrade. Lived in Stanton, Michigan, and much of the town moved here to Washington as loggers along with a Stanton lumber-baron.I have a photo showing him in 1890 driving a bull-team in the woods. Any Michigan lizards know anything about this (Stanton MI story)?
His brother H.C.W, "C", 1st Michigan Cavalry, Custer's Michigan Brigade, captured at Gettysburg, died 26 July, 1864 Andersonville, Georgia.
His young wife's (G.O.W's) brother, W.H.H, "C",4th Michigan Infantry, killed at Fredericksburg, VA, Dec. 1862. Another of great-grandma's brother, "G",17th Michigan Infantry,1862-5. Great-Granpa's grandad J.W, War of 1812. His dad, C.W., Connecticut Dragoons, Revolution. The Revolution rolls are on-line but very difficult to search.
My 1st cousin, 8th Inf, 4th Inf. Div, Utah Beach, WW2. Married a French woman he met at a D-Day reunion. He's gone, she survives him. Another cousin, 1st Cavalry Div., WW2, Philippine Islands, still living.
Lastly my dear brother, gone but not forgotten, 4th Battalion, 47th Infantry Regt., 9th Infantry Division, 1968-9, Vietnam. Badly wounded 1969.
I guess it's an all-Army family, Dad's WW2 service in 8th AF, USAAF was still a part of Army then.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:41:15am |
re: #115 Thanos
You know what? If Powell decided to run for Senate in Maryland or something I would back him as a Republican simply because the alternative would be worse. Screw purism.
Here's a question for you: Would you back him against Kerry?
(can't resist)
But who would we back against Barney Frank?
Who would WANT to the backed up against ... uh ... er ... well ...y'know
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Rexatosis Sun, May 24, 2009 11:41:41am |
It would be nice if the public school systems would teach the meaning and history of Memorial Day (Decoration Day), Veteran's Day (Armistace Day), etc. I hope all enjoy the holiday and remember those whose ultimate sacrifice has made it possible for us to do so.
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avanti Sun, May 24, 2009 11:41:42am |
re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(Little request here!)
Lizards who served? Can you put up your Branch's Emblem as an avatar?
I think that'd be cool. I can just spend a couple of days dinging ya!
I'll put mine back up for a bit.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:42:00am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:42:33am |
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debutaunt Sun, May 24, 2009 11:42:46am |
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austin_blue Sun, May 24, 2009 11:42:57am |
re: #92 Charles
They're just salivating over the prospect of killin' them some Muslims.
And them Croation Papists, too...
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Randall Gross Sun, May 24, 2009 11:43:12am |
re: #124 sattv4u2
yes also ,,, and then pressure him DAILY reminding him of who elected him
(and I think you meant Massachusetts, not maryland ,,, or if so, not Kerry) !?!?!?!?
Actually I meant both. Either is a plausible run for him, but Maryland much more so. I threw in Mass. to contrast that even a RINO is better than a flaming liberal.
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 24, 2009 11:43:42am |
re: #128 Rexatosis
It would be nice if the public school systems would teach the meaning and history of Memorial Day (Decoration Day), Veteran's Day (Armistace Day), etc. I hope all enjoy the holiday and remember those whose ultimate sacrifice has made it possible for us to do so.
key problem
My sons private school teaches it though!
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MacDuff Sun, May 24, 2009 11:44:06am |
re: #126 JHW
That's quite a fine lot from which you spring. May God bless all of them.
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Charles Johnson Sun, May 24, 2009 11:44:08am |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
Gates of Vienna has a post up about this year's CounterJihad Summit which took place in secret last week. No big names were mentioned, mostly small time anonymous bloggers. They concluded the report with this dire prediction/wish.....
Lovely people.
/
By the way, the "Counterjihad Summit" took place in Copenhagen this year.
Guess who just happened to be in Copenhagen last week: Robert Spencer.
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quickjustice Sun, May 24, 2009 11:44:14am |
I didn't serve (too late for Vietnam), but ancestors include:
1 Two veterans of the Continental Army (Chester County, Pennsylvania Battalion raised by Colonel Anthony Wayne);
2. One veteran of the War of 1812 (raised regiment of volunteers at Dillsburg, Pennsylvania, and marched to the relief of Washington, only to be diverted to Fort McHenry, Baltimore Harbor);
3. Four great great uncles killed in action at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, July 2, 1863 (Pennsylvania volunteer militia)(surviving fifth brother was my great, great-grandfather, too young to enlist, but lied about his age to become a drummer boy, recovered by his mother in time to prevent his service);
4. one cousin in German Army in WWI, recipient of four Iron Crosses, First Class, promoted to Major, later killed by the Nazis ("Canada? Why should I come to Canada? Hitler respects military courage.");
5. Father in Royal Canadian Army Medical Corps, WWII: At age 23, replacement medical officer for North Nova Scotia Highlander Regiment (predecessor killed in action);
6. Uncle, First Lieutenant, U.S. Army in troop transport during Korean War: column shelled by Red Chinese artillery, his truck and several others destroyed in the action.
7. Cousin (Female), U.S. Army, just returned from third tour in Iraq Theater.
To all you lizards who are veterans, or have friends or family who have served or sacrificed, my hat is off, and I salute!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 11:44:24am |
re: #126 JHW
Andersonville was truly an awful place.
I think we as a country learned our lesson.
Therefore? Gitmo, it's a prison/and a resort.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:44:55am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 24, 2009 11:45:22am |
re: #135 Thanos
Actually I meant both. Either is a plausible run for him, but Maryland much more so. I threw in Mass. to contrast that even a RINO is better than a flaming liberal.
I'm particularly sensitive to the Mass issue, having been born, raised and lived there for most of the 1st 45 years of my life. The last 10 have been spent in Georgia
2 Repub Senators ,,,, a Repub Governor ,,, majority of congessmen 9mine included) repubs
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Sharmuta Sun, May 24, 2009 11:45:49am |
re: #138 Charles
By the way, the "Counterjihad Summit" took place in Copenhagen this year.
Guess who just happened to be in Copenhagen last week: Robert Spencer.
What an amazing coincidence.
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avanti Sun, May 24, 2009 11:47:04am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 24, 2009 11:47:35am |
re: #138 Charles
By the way, the "Counterjihad Summit" took place in Copenhagen this year.
Guess who just happened to be in Copenhagen last week: Robert Spencer.
a total coincidence ,,, had no idea there was a conference there at that time ,,, had booked the vacation to Copenhagen decades ago ,, couldn't exchange the tix ,,,, couldn't re-sell the hotel space ,,,,,
nothing to see here ,,, move along !
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Zimriel Sun, May 24, 2009 11:48:18am |
re: #138 Charles
By the way, the "Counterjihad Summit" took place in Copenhagen this year.
Guess who just happened to be in Copenhagen last week: Robert Spencer.
'E's not fascist! 'E's pinin' for the fjords!
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Macker Sun, May 24, 2009 11:48:18am |
re: #111 Zimriel
As long as Powell keeps his mouth shut on the matter of Оба́ма, he's fine. I value his service when he was in there. Same with McCain.
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itellu3times Sun, May 24, 2009 11:48:25am |
re: #63 Killgore Trout
Some analysts make the mistake of relying on linear extrapolation to predict the future, but historical processes do not follow linear patterns. Affairs tend to proceed smoothly enough for a time, but all the while tension, resentment, and rage are building. Then comes a relatively small event — Gavrilo Princip pulling the trigger, for example — and the world is irrevocably changed.
The dream of anarchists everywhere, to make "the" difference. (Change!)
But historically, is this accurate? I think not. The Ottoman Empire was fat and torpid, and fell. The Austro-Hungarian Empire had been tottering for centuries, and fell. The British Empire that won, lasted a few more decades then dismantled itself anyway.
Lesson? Well, perhaps Firesign said it best:
"If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law: "It goes in, it must come out."
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Walter L. Newton Sun, May 24, 2009 11:48:47am |
re: #138 Charles
By the way, the "Counterjihad Summit" took place in Copenhagen this year.
Guess who just happened to be in Copenhagen last week. Robert Spencer.
I just read the whole article posted at GoV. In my opinion, they are not hiding anything anymore. The language, tone and happily-mentioned associations they listed proves your point. If you ask me, they have totally come out with this article, and they are hiding nothing anymore.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:49:46am |
re: #144 avanti
A big Semper Fi to you and yours.
Actually, I was Navy - ATN, tailhook, CVA-19, 62-66.
Dad was a career Marine.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:50:16am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, May 24, 2009 11:50:20am |
re: #138 Charles
By the way, the "Counterjihad Summit" took place in Copenhagen this year.
Guess who just happened to be in Copenhagen last week: Robert Spencer.
Is it time to stop calling all this a coincidence?
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 24, 2009 11:50:32am |
re: #138 Charles
I went through the list of bloggers who participated. Nobody else published a report on the conference or pictures. Nothing. Very tight message control on this one.
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avanti Sun, May 24, 2009 11:51:15am |
re: #151 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I thought so, that's why I added the "and yours" :)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:51:50am |
re: #155 Killgore Trout
I went through the list of bloggers who participated. Nobody else published a report on the conference or pictures. Nothing. Very tight message control on this one.
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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yochanan Sun, May 24, 2009 11:51:50am |
re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
camp douglas in chicago was only somewhat better than andersonville but the union wrote the history books.
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formercorpsman Sun, May 24, 2009 11:51:53am |
re: #115 Thanos
Thanos, if I may ask.
Do you reside in Maryland? For some reason, I thought you were located in the mid-west.
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 11:51:56am |
re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(Little request here!)
Lizards who served? Can you put up your Branch's Emblem as an avatar?
I think that'd be cool. I can just spend a couple of days dinging ya!
OK -
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Sharmuta Sun, May 24, 2009 11:52:08am |
I see one of the participants of the counterjihad conference was Trifkovic.
For those who need a refresher- Srdja Trifkovic.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 11:52:11am |
Marines are a branch of the Navy? Or the other way around?
*Runs for cover*
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:52:46am |
re: #156 avanti
I thought so, that's why I added the "and yours" :)
OOPS!
Didn't catch that.
*crawling toward the coffee pot*
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redc1c4 Sun, May 24, 2009 11:53:39am |
re: #154 FurryOldGuyJeans
Is it time to stop calling all this a coincidence?
ok: it's a miracle!
/better?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 24, 2009 11:53:49am |
Remembering Lt. Luther N. Waters, 503rd Field Artillery Battalion. POW/MIA from the Korean war. His youngest son never even knew his Dad. Their mother passed away last year and they placed a POW/MIA flag in her casket.
My friend and his siblings are background singers with many gold and platinum records.
Here is their Mother's Day tribute:
Click on this link:
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:54:00am |
re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Marines are a branch of the Navy? Or the other way around?
*Runs for cover*
I never really "discussed" that with Dad.
He was very stockily built.
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Sharmuta Sun, May 24, 2009 11:54:48am |
Seems day two was dedicated to spreading the Serbian lobby's propaganda.
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Macker Sun, May 24, 2009 11:55:53am |
re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(Little request here!)
Lizards who served? Can you put up your Branch's Emblem as an avatar?
I think that'd be cool. I can just spend a couple of days dinging ya!
You bet! There it is!
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yochanan Sun, May 24, 2009 11:56:34am |
re: #166 pre-Boomer Marine brat
i always thought the navy was the jarheads taxi.
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Sharmuta Sun, May 24, 2009 11:56:52am |
Given my imminent unemployment and reduced circumstances, Counterjihad Copenhagen 2009 will likely be my last such event for the foreseeable future.
Someone break out the world's smallest violin for Baron.
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JHW Sun, May 24, 2009 11:56:54am |
re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yes and I checked out Andersonville on line (looking for a grave marker), the NPS has an excellent site. Apparently a lot of the deaths were from dysentery, including Great-Granpa's brother. Almost unavoidable given the extreme crowding and lack of sanitation.At any rate I mention this, because great-Grandpa was held up as an example to us kids growing up, very dignified old gent . He was killed in a traffic accident in 1932, our local paper had a black-bordered obit on the front page. He was extolled as a man who fought racism and hatred and religious intolerance all his life. He had no patience for those that hated because of religion or race "the black man was the Union soldier's best friend".The Confederate soldiers "were honorable opponents, our countrymen", even though his brother had died in a Confederate prison, he held no animus against them. I sure wish I'd have met him, he sounded like a giant to me.
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Timbre Sun, May 24, 2009 11:57:26am |
I honor the American fallen, for our freedom they paid a terrible price.
Though they read not these words, I shall not forget their sacrifice.
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 24, 2009 11:57:34am |
re: #161 Sharmuta
He was just about the only name I recognized. Some of those people don't even have webpages. The ones who do have blogs are very inactive; a few posts per month, maybe one or two comments. Some of them weren't even counterjihad bloggers.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 11:57:39am |
re: #169 yochanan
i always thought the navy was the jarheads taxi.
Heh. Becomes a problem when they think the same way.
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Macker Sun, May 24, 2009 11:57:40am |
re: #169 yochanan
i always thought the navy was the jarheads taxi.
Yes, there is a reason why Marines stands for:
My
Ass
Rides
In
Navy
Equipment
Safely
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redc1c4 Sun, May 24, 2009 11:58:06am |
re: #169 yochanan
i always thought the navy was the jarheads taxi.
and i heard they were sea going bellhops.....
/white smoke
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 11:58:25am |
re: #158 yochanan
Interesting. Thanks. Just Wiki'd it. Largest mass grave in the western hemisphere is there.
Oh, and oddly...all records were destroyed after the war.
There was nothing Civil about that war.
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Charles Johnson Sun, May 24, 2009 11:58:25am |
re: #155 Killgore Trout
I went through the list of bloggers who participated. Nobody else published a report on the conference or pictures. Nothing. Very tight message control on this one.
Yes, they're obviously doing their best to conceal who attended the meeting.
Apparently it took place in Copenhagen on May 16th -- the link to the IFPS shows that Spencer was in Copenhagen on the 12th. I'm very curious to know if he was at the meeting, because this seems like a very curious coincidence if he wasn't. And if so, why are they hiding it?
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yochanan Sun, May 24, 2009 11:58:38am |
re: #167 Sharmuta
the serbs learned how to be fascists from the croat and boznian muslims during ww2.
they both were bastards during ww2 with the croats being snicklegrubers murders for hire and the bosnian joined the grand mufti's S.S. DIVISION
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Kosh's Shadow Sun, May 24, 2009 11:59:04am |
re: #145 sattv4u2
a total coincidence ,,, had no idea there was a conference there at that time ,,, had booked the vacation to Copenhagen decades ago ,, couldn't exchange the tix ,,,, couldn't re-sell the hotel space ,,,,,
nothing to see here ,,, move along !
But we thought there was someone who looked like you in Groucho Marx glasses and mustache entering the conference.
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quickjustice Sun, May 24, 2009 11:59:24am |
My 1812 veteran is the only family member who made it to Congress-- as a Jackson Democrat!
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sattv4u2 Sun, May 24, 2009 11:59:50am |
re: #182 Kosh's Shadow
But we thought there was someone who looked like you in Groucho Marx glasses and mustache entering the conference.
That was Pamela!
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Sharmuta Sun, May 24, 2009 11:59:57am |
re: #180 Charles
Yes, they're obviously doing their best to conceal who attended the meeting.
Apparently it took place in Copenhagen on May 16th -- the link to the IFPS shows that Spencer was in Copenhagen on the 12th. I'm very curious to know if he was at the meeting, because this seems like a very curious coincidence if he wasn't. And if so, why are they hiding it?
I don't know why he wouldn't have been there if his friend Trifkovic was there.
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avanti Sun, May 24, 2009 12:00:03pm |
re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Marines are a branch of the Navy? Or the other way around?
*Runs for cover*
I found the difference between sailors and Marines early in my Navy carrier when I was in the Gator Navy on a amphibious assault ship. During the Cuban missile crisis the Marines on board were excited about the mission, we were concerned. These are the guys that would run toward opening LCM ramp door that could have machine gun fire bouncing off it and they could not wait to go.
When President Kennedy got on the radio and told us is it was over, the sailors were happy, the Marines were disappointed.
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Rexatosis Sun, May 24, 2009 12:00:31pm |
Re: # 136 sattv4u2
Teach college, you wouldn't believe how unprepared incoming freshman are these days, no knowledge of the basic outline of US History nor Western Civilization. Instead they get World Civ. which is essentially a disjointed hash teaching basically nothing (teaching 3000 years of Western History is tough enough but now they try and jam 4000 years of Chinese and Indian history into a couple of weeks with a dash of Pre-Columbian and African history, it just doesn't work), and lots of "technology" driven drivel (In the 50's, 60's, and 70's the worst teachers relied on films, in the 80's it was video, now it is the Internet, same crap wrapped in a new package.) And does anyone know how to read a map? The lack of geographic knowledge is scary. I won't even go off on the lack of basic economic literacy, math literacy, nor scientific literacy.
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capitalist piglet Sun, May 24, 2009 12:00:46pm |
Today I'm remembering my father, a Navy corpsman attached to the Fourth Marine Division on Iwo Jima, and his stretcher partner who was KIA by an explosion as the two were out doing collections. I'm also remembering my dad's cousin (and best friend) with the Fifth Marine Division, who was KIA near Hill 362A/Nishi Ridge on Iwo. He was trying to help someone else to (relative) safety, when he was cut down by machine gun fire. My brother was named after him.
To all who have sacrificed and all who have served: We owe you so much. Thank you, and may God bless you.
P.S. Dad, I wear your dog tags every day.
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 12:01:52pm |
re: #153 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Lookin' Good.
Saw that you'd found it.
Thanks. Now I don't feel so computer illiterate.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:02:17pm |
re: #188 capitalist piglet
My Father was attached to the 4th Marines on Iwo Jima. He was a Capt. at the time.
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pink freud Sun, May 24, 2009 12:02:43pm |
Hi, everyone.
To each and every man and woman here who has served this great country, I offer to you a heartfelt thank you.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 12:03:43pm |
re: #190 Soona'
Cool! Thanks for making the effort. And, that looks very nice on you.
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Sharmuta Sun, May 24, 2009 12:04:30pm |
I received a last minute invitation to a party last might, where I ended up pissing off a paulian. Quickest way to piss off a paulian, apparently, is to tell them their beloved took money from nazis.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:04:40pm |
Gee I never really saw that before. Mark Texeria on a "broken bat" that shattered hit a home run to left in the New Yankee Stadium?
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yochanan Sun, May 24, 2009 12:04:56pm |
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
not as well known as andersonville but bad enough.
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Randall Gross Sun, May 24, 2009 12:05:32pm |
re: #159 formercorpsman
I"m in the midwest, but I give money to good candidates in other states.
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Macker Sun, May 24, 2009 12:05:32pm |
re: #172 redc1c4
17 days? there's a story there, somewhere....... %-)
As a matter of fact, there is.
I went to Great Lakes NTC in Illinois to start Boot Camp. I went in as a Nuke candidate, and on Friday the 13th of October, 1978, after our initial medicals, they pulled all the Nukes for a secondary exam by a Navy Ophthalmologist. It was there I found I had keratoconus. They sent me to a civvie for a second opinion, which he concurred, and so I was unable to continue.
17 days in. 17 when I went in, and 17 when I got out. But I was at least willing to sign away my life and Constitutional rights away for six years, and I'm glad for that.
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capitalist piglet Sun, May 24, 2009 12:05:35pm |
re: #191 Nevergiveup
My Father was attached to the 4th Marines on Iwo Jima. He was a Capt. at the time.
Is your father living? (If he is, please give him a "Semper Fi" for me.) My dad passed in '96. He was one of those who could talk about it, but there are so many who had trouble with that. Did you hear Iwo stories growing up?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 12:05:47pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 24, 2009 12:05:48pm |
re: #180 Charles
Yes, they're obviously doing their best to conceal who attended the meeting.
Apparently it took place in Copenhagen on May 16th -- the link to the IFPS shows that Spencer was in Copenhagen on the 12th. I'm very curious to know if he was at the meeting, because this seems like a very curious coincidence if he wasn't. And if so, why are they hiding it?
It's tough to say. He very well could have been there. It might have been the usual crew (or maybe even worse) and they're covering it up. It's also possible that nobody wanted the heat from showing up. It might have been a lame flop of really obscure bloggers.
I'm not sure which scenario is more likely. Baron's claim that this will be the last one leads to to believe that the conference was a flop.
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MacDuff Sun, May 24, 2009 12:06:20pm |
re: #165 Pvt Bin Jammin
Remembering Lt. Luther N. Waters, 503rd Field Artillery Battalion. POW/MIA from the Korean war. His youngest son never even knew his Dad. Their mother passed away last year and they placed a POW/MIA flag in her casket.
My friend and his siblings are background singers with many gold and platinum records.
Here is their Mother's Day tribute:
Click on this link:
From the bottom of my heart, I thank you for posting that. If that's not America, I don't know what is. God bless you and your family.
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Sharmuta Sun, May 24, 2009 12:06:28pm |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
He said it was the last one he'd be able to attend.
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 12:07:14pm |
re: #186 avanti
I found the difference between sailors and Marines early in my Navy carrier when I was in the Gator Navy on a amphibious assault ship. During the Cuban missile crisis the Marines on board were excited about the mission, we were concerned. These are the guys that would run toward opening LCM ramp door that could have machine gun fire bouncing off it and they could not wait to go.
When President Kennedy got on the radio and told us is it was over, the sailors were happy, the Marines were disappointed.
I was Amphib as well - Minesweepers. We blockaded the Dominican Republic soon after Cuba. Did you make that party?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 12:07:32pm |
re: #201 capitalist piglet
Have an uncle {Van!} in his 80's. Just started writing his experiences down. They have been fascinating reads.
Never talked about Guam to anybody; not even his wife until two years ago when he decided to tell.
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quickjustice Sun, May 24, 2009 12:08:19pm |
re: #126 JHW
George Custer's cavalry skirmish at the end of the battle of Gettysburg earned him a brevet promotion to General. Very few people know that Robert E. Lee ordered Jeb Stewart's cavalry to attack the Union line on Cemetery Ridge from the rear at the same time Pickett was hitting the line from the front. A simultaneous attack might have broken the line, changing the course of the war.
Custer's cavalry intercepted Stewart, and drove him off in sharp fight. Custer and his men literally saved the Union line, and saved the day for the Union.
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capitalist piglet Sun, May 24, 2009 12:08:27pm |
re: #194 yochanan
I have my fathers on too.
Very cool.
I never take my dad's off (unless I'm really dressed up). They're probably my most cherished possession. I've worn them since 9/11.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 12:08:52pm |
re: #186 avanti
... in the Gator Navy on a amphibious assault ship. During the Cuban missile crisis ...
Really?!
My Dad was on regimental staff of the 2nd Marines' artillery regiment.
He was out floating around with you guys.
/*grin* ... I wonder
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Randall Gross Sun, May 24, 2009 12:09:23pm |
Heads up to Cleveland lizards: Galloway's supposed to be speaking at a pro palestine event there tomorrow if you have a camera...
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 12:09:39pm |
re: #187 Rexatosis
Re: # 136 sattv4u2
The lack of geographic knowledge is scary. I won't even go off on the lack of basic economic literacy, math literacy, nor scientific literacy.
I scary for me too. Most people that even graduate college nowdays have not idea how to find any state on the map, let alone any other country. For the many, their grasp of economics is non-existant.
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formercorpsman Sun, May 24, 2009 12:09:52pm |
re: #199 Thanos
Gotcha. Sorry for not getting back right away.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, May 24, 2009 12:10:08pm |
re: #204 MacDuff
From the bottom of my heart, I thank you for posting that. If that's not America, I don't know what is. God bless you and your family.
Thanks, I keep playing it over and over. Lt. Water's youngest son sent us that on Mother's Day. She did a great job raising those kids on her own.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:10:26pm |
re: #201 capitalist piglet
Is your father living? (If he is, please give him a "Semper Fi" for me.) My dad passed in '96. He was one of those who could talk about it, but there are so many who had trouble with that. Did you hear Iwo stories growing up?
My died passed away in 1983. He talked some, not much. I met some of the men ion his unit and his CO. When he died I got all his papers and spent time trying to figure out where he was and when. He was in charge of the 476th Amphibian Truck Company (attached to 4th Marine Division). He went in with the recon unit on the first wave to set up a base to bring in the heavy artillery. Charles doesn't like us to list our names here, but if you google Iwo Jima Order of Battle, he is listed.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, May 24, 2009 12:10:31pm |
re: #213 Thanos
Heads up to Cleveland lizards: Galloway's supposed to be speaking at a pro palestine event there tomorrow if you have a camera; please take a picture of LeBron James and have it autographed by him for my good friend FBV...
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 12:10:32pm |
re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Cool! Thanks for making the effort. And, that looks very nice on you.
It does doesn't it? (beaming)
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yochanan Sun, May 24, 2009 12:10:34pm |
re: #206 Bobibutu
after ww2 my father transfered to the army during the cuban missle thingie he was attached to an honest john unit which was sent to the keys to send a glowing message to cuba all i heard him say about it was "glad kroschev blinked".
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Walter L. Newton Sun, May 24, 2009 12:11:03pm |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
It's tough to say. He very well could have been there. It might have been the usual crew (or maybe even worse) and they're covering it up. It's also possible that nobody wanted the heat from showing up. It might have been a lame flop of really obscure bloggers.
I'm not sure which scenario is more likely. Baron's claim that this will be the last one leads to to believe that the conference was a flop.
I think it's more like they are putting the ultimate spin on this and trying to move most activity underground.
This is not stopping or slowing down, but because of the exposure that they have received from bloggers like Charles, I suspect that they many of them have made a unified decision to keep a lot of their machinations out of the public eye.
These people are just gearing up, and they are going to try to make it harder to out their bigoted and nationalistic activities.
Mark my words.
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itellu3times Sun, May 24, 2009 12:11:36pm |
re: #187 Rexatosis
Re: # 136 sattv4u2
Teach college, you wouldn't believe how unprepared incoming freshman are these days, no knowledge of the basic outline of US History nor Western Civilization. Instead they get World Civ. which is essentially a disjointed hash teaching basically nothing (teaching 3000 years of Western History is tough enough but now they try and jam 4000 years of Chinese and Indian history into a couple of weeks with a dash of Pre-Columbian and African history, it just doesn't work), and lots of "technology" driven drivel (In the 50's, 60's, and 70's the worst teachers relied on films, in the 80's it was video, now it is the Internet, same crap wrapped in a new package.) And does anyone know how to read a map? The lack of geographic knowledge is scary. I won't even go off on the lack of basic economic literacy, math literacy, nor scientific literacy.
Heck I didn't have any, 30 years ago, and my father a history buff and all. And y'know what, I still didn't have any when I graduated college, in those early days when western civ had been eliminated, but not yet replace with world civ.
But I could read a map and name most major cities, states, and countries, continents, oceans, and planets. I'm still working on the constellations.
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capitalist piglet Sun, May 24, 2009 12:11:39pm |
re: #207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Have an uncle {Van!} in his 80's. Just started writing his experiences down. They have been fascinating reads.
Never talked about Guam to anybody; not even his wife until two years ago when he decided to tell.
The PTO was really something. Just hell on earth. It's good to hear your uncle is still living and is documenting his experience; I wish I had been more pro-active with my dad by asking more questions.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:11:41pm |
re: #211 capitalist piglet
Very cool.
I never take my dad's off (unless I'm really dressed up). They're probably my most cherished possession. I've worn them since 9/11.
I carry my dad's on my keys.
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Soona' Sun, May 24, 2009 12:12:11pm |
re: #214 Soona'
I've gotta slow down typing. Tue mini mestaks.
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yochanan Sun, May 24, 2009 12:12:16pm |
re: #200 Macker
macker i was born at great lakes so I guess i was there longer than you were.
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jaunte Sun, May 24, 2009 12:13:29pm |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
It's tough to say. He very well could have been there. It might have been the usual crew (or maybe even worse) and they're covering it up.
Someone posting at missioneuropakmartell.wordpress.com
has a partial list of those who attended.
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capitalist piglet Sun, May 24, 2009 12:16:09pm |
re: #218 Nevergiveup
My died passed away in 1983. He talked some, not much. I met some of the men ion his unit and his CO. When he died I got all his papers and spent time trying to figure out where he was and when. He was in charge of the 476th Amphibian Truck Company (attached to 4th Marine Division). He went in with the recon unit on the first wave to set up a base to bring in the heavy artillery. Charles doesn't like us to list our names here, but if you google Iwo Jima Order of Battle, he is listed.
Thank you so much. I have done a fair amount of study about Iwo...I will look at that. My dad went in very early, too - Fourth Medical Battalion. His rank was PhM2c.
Have you read Flags of Our Fathers? (I know the author a little bit.) That book really opened my eyes.
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avanti Sun, May 24, 2009 12:17:07pm |
re: #206 Bobibutu
I was Amphib as well - Minesweepers. We blockaded the Dominican Republic soon after Cuba. Did you make that party?
I could write a book about why I missed that. My ship made it, but my LCM, Bowhook, Coxswain me did not. Our boat had been loaned to another ship for a few days, and she was called back to help locate the Thresher sub sinking. We were dropped off on Viegas Island to await the return of our ship weeks later. We lived on the Mike boat, ate with the Marines, road the native horses, quite a adventure.
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capitalist piglet Sun, May 24, 2009 12:17:25pm |
re: #225 Nevergiveup
I carry my dad's on my keys.
You know, that's a good idea for the times I can't have a couple of big ovals hanging from a chain around my neck! Hadn't thought about doing that.
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avanti Sun, May 24, 2009 12:17:49pm |
re: #212 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Really?!
My Dad was on regimental staff of the 2nd Marines' artillery regiment.
He was out floating around with you guys./*grin* ... I wonder
I was on the Rankin AKA 148, ask him.
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yochanan Sun, May 24, 2009 12:17:57pm |
my earliest memory was back in 1956 when we were stationed in schwienfurt gr. during the hungarian revolt the american military was put on the highest alert as a result the M.P.'S came to the part of the base we lived on and told us we had 15 mins to pack one bag and get on the army bus and be sent to bremerhaven just in case. a month later we went back.
i was 6 at the time.
what are your earliest memories my FELLOW LIZARDS.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:18:18pm |
re: #229 capitalist piglet
Thank you so much. I have done a fair amount of study about Iwo...I will look at that. My dad went in very early, too - Fourth Medical Battalion. His rank was PhM2c.
Have you read Flags of Our Fathers? (I know the author a little bit.) That book really opened my eyes.
Yes. One day if they still have them, I'd like to travel there. They used to have one day tours for Vets and their families.
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 12:18:35pm |
re: #221 yochanan
after ww2 my father transfered to the army during the cuban missle thingie he was attached to an honest john unit which was sent to the keys to send a glowing message to cuba all i heard him say about it was "glad kroschev blinked".
A cousin of mine was one of JFKs cabinet members and closest advisor during the crisis.
It took calm heads and steel nerves not only in the WH but in the field as well - the Naval Captains who carried out their orders deserve our endless thanks and a job well done in keeping the mushrooms from sprouting.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:20:03pm |
re: #235 Bobibutu
A cousin of mine was one of JFKs cabinet members and closest advisor during the crisis.
It took calm heads and steel nerves not only in the WH but in the field as well - the Naval Captains who carried out their orders deserve our endless thanks and a job well done in keeping the mushrooms from sprouting.
OK, any hints who he was?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 12:21:42pm |
re: #232 avanti
I was on the Rankin AKA 148, ask him.
Sure wish I could !
/*grin* ... it's cool ... not a problem
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babes Sun, May 24, 2009 12:22:17pm |
Just heard on the radio that 1/2 million Rolling Thunder bikers were in DC today. I think that might be a bit high - last year it was estimated at 33,000.
In any case, that's alot of bikers throttling down Constitution Ave. -- they will make sure that Vets are not forgotten.
I heard one interview on the radio and the guy said that they were there to make sure the politicians know that there are people who will never forget.
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capitalist piglet Sun, May 24, 2009 12:22:23pm |
re: #234 Nevergiveup
Yes. One day if they still have them, I'd like to travel there. They used to have one day tours for Vets and their families.
They do! I've been saving for that same trip! It's miltours.com:
[Link: www.miltours.com...]
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yochanan Sun, May 24, 2009 12:23:03pm |
MY father was a master sarg his MOS was to run the mess hall when they weren't being sent some were will long metal objects that might glow in the dark.
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Throbert McGee Sun, May 24, 2009 12:23:11pm |
I met up with my sister, B-I-L, and two-year-old nephew this morning to watch the Rolling Thunder motorcycle cavalcade. Sadly, my digital camera has completely crapped out, because there were, as always, plenty of truly bitchin' bikes to be seen (and some very studly male eye candy among the riders, for those who care about that sort of thing).
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:24:08pm |
re: #240 capitalist piglet
They do! I've been saving for that same trip! It's miltours.com:
[Link: www.miltours.com...]
Well I missed that one. I will have to see when the next one is?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 12:25:01pm |
re: #233 yochanan
my earliest memory was back in 1956 when we were stationed in schwienfurt gr. during the hungarian revolt the american military was put on the highest alert as a result the M.P.'S came to the part of the base we lived on and told us we had 15 mins to pack one bag and get on the army bus and be sent to bremerhaven just in case. a month later we went back.
i was 6 at the time.
what are your earliest memories my FELLOW LIZARDS.
Christmas 1945. Oddly enough, I was just going on three. Dad had just returned from the Pacific, and I got a Lionel train set for Christmas.
/and Dad, too
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jvic Sun, May 24, 2009 12:26:15pm |
Despite my disagreement & dissatisfaction with Colin Powell, I don't forget he said this:
[F]ar from being the Great Satan, I would say that we are the Great Protector. We have sent men and women from the armed forces of the United States to other parts of the world throughout the past century to put down oppression. We defeated Fascism. We defeated Communism. We saved Europe in World War I and World War II. We were willing to do it, glad to do it. We went to Korea. We went to Vietnam. All in the interest of preserving the rights of people.And when all those conflicts were over, what did we do? Did we stay and conquer? Did we say, "Okay, we defeated Germany. Now Germany belongs to us? We defeated Japan, so Japan belongs to us"? No. What did we do? We built them up. We gave them democratic systems which they have embraced totally to their soul. And did we ask for any land? No, the only land we ever asked for was enough land to bury our dead. And that is the kind of nation we are.
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capitalist piglet Sun, May 24, 2009 12:26:38pm |
re: #243 Nevergiveup
Well I missed that one. I will have to see when the next one is?
It will likely be next March. I think you can start signing up for it in November or so.
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 24, 2009 12:27:16pm |
Gates of Vienna lists kent ekeroth as attending the conference. It Turns out he's from the Neo-Nazi Sweden Democtrats. Although he doesn't mention the counterjihad summit on his blog he did post video of Spencer in Copenhagen last week.....
Video: Robert Spencer on the Crusades and Muslim "tolerance"
The video was uploaded to youtube by another SD activist/politician.
My guess is that the counterjihad summit has been folded in to the "free press society" meeting. They're trying to hide it in hopes of putting the controversy behind them.
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Charles Johnson Sun, May 24, 2009 12:27:45pm |
re: #228 jaunte
Someone posting at missioneuropakmartell.wordpress.com
has a partial list of those who attended.
That person has an account of the brave anti-jihadists' field trip to the dreaded Malmo -- where they observed Muslims doing ... well, nothing out of the ordinary. They went there during the day instead of at night, when "violent mobs roam the streets."
Of course, they didn't actually see any violent mobs or much of anything else, except people going about their business.
It's a plot! Sharia! Jihad! We're all doomed unless we do something right now! ! !
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 12:29:57pm |
re: #230 avanti
I could write a book about why I missed that. My ship made it, but my LCM, Bowhook, Coxswain me did not. Our boat had been loaned to another ship for a few days, and she was called back to help locate the Thresher sub sinking. We were dropped off on Viegas Island to await the return of our ship weeks later. We lived on the Mike boat, ate with the Marines, road the native horses, quite a adventure.
Partied on Viegas a few times myself after a sweep exercise of two. Fond memories.
We ran out of food during the blockade so the ops commander used us for mail service - 4 sweepers - 1 every day would depart for San Juan - overnite in SJ (no shore leave), pick up the mail - resupply and return - drop off the mail - one day on station and repeat - the good news was I was in charge of picking up the mail and honed the fine art of my detail getting a quickie en route and back to the ship with no one the wiser.
We were stunned when the Thresher went down.
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callahan23 Sun, May 24, 2009 12:30:20pm |
re: #233 yochanan
Me and my family were at the Buenos Aires zoo. I was maybe 5 or 6 years old. We were looking at the cage of some monkey specie when a bomb exploded in the middle of the round-about in our direct line of sight. Nothing really happened except a lady fell unconscious.
That very Montoneros terror was one of the main reasons why my family left Argentina.
Since then I feel no sympathy at all for any terrorist organization. To put it mildly.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:30:41pm |
re: #246 capitalist piglet
Thanks. I bookmarked it we will see.
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avanti Sun, May 24, 2009 12:31:22pm |
re: #237 pre-Boomer Marine brat
What no internet in heaven ? Gotta fix that. :)
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lobo91 Sun, May 24, 2009 12:31:33pm |
re: #187 Rexatosis
Re: # 136 sattv4u2
Teach college, you wouldn't believe how unprepared incoming freshman are these days, no knowledge of the basic outline of US History nor Western Civilization. Instead they get World Civ. which is essentially a disjointed hash teaching basically nothing (teaching 3000 years of Western History is tough enough but now they try and jam 4000 years of Chinese and Indian history into a couple of weeks with a dash of Pre-Columbian and African history, it just doesn't work), and lots of "technology" driven drivel (In the 50's, 60's, and 70's the worst teachers relied on films, in the 80's it was video, now it is the Internet, same crap wrapped in a new package.) And does anyone know how to read a map? The lack of geographic knowledge is scary. I won't even go off on the lack of basic economic literacy, math literacy, nor scientific literacy.
The really scary part is how many members of the Obama administration that describes...
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jaunte Sun, May 24, 2009 12:31:34pm |
re: #248 Charles
I see that he imagined he "could almost feel the tension rising" when they were standing there in a shopping center. Scary.
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 12:32:54pm |
re: #236 Nevergiveup
OK, any hints who he was?
Sure - he was an ambassador for Ike, an under-sec. for Ike, a sec. for JFK and LBJ kept him on after the assassination.
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 24, 2009 12:33:23pm |
Ok, it's pretty clear that the counter jihad summit and the "free press society" conference were the same event
Beerandsandwiches (Google Cache)
Also has video of Spencer in Copenhagen, coincidentally sandwiched between two posts about the counterjihad summit.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:34:04pm |
re: #255 Bobibutu
Sure - he was an ambassador for Ike, an under-sec. for Ike, a sec. for JFK and LBJ kept him on after the assassination.
Well I'll have to do some research on that one. But thanks.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, May 24, 2009 12:36:22pm |
re: #252 avanti
What no internet in heaven ? Gotta fix that. :)
Lemme try duct-taping my mouse cord's connector to a Ouija board.
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 12:37:32pm |
re: #257 Nevergiveup
Well I'll have to do some research on that one. But thanks.
Easier - if you were old enough to carry paper money back then, his signature was in your pocket.
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:39:03pm |
re: #259 Bobibutu
Easier - if you were old enough to carry paper money back then, his signature was in your pocket.
OK I can take a hint. Dillion?
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 12:40:54pm |
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Nevergiveup Sun, May 24, 2009 12:42:09pm |
re: #261 Bobibutu
incorrect spelling - only one i.
Yeah I caught that after I post it. I will have to read up on him. But I am impressed.
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 12:45:24pm |
re: #262 Nevergiveup
Yeah I caught that after I post it. I will have to read up on him. But I am impressed.
He was pretty special - wish we had more like him now. He gave up much to become a public servant - returned to private public service and philanthropy when he left the government.
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Killgore Trout Sun, May 24, 2009 12:46:08pm |
Mah kounter geehad iz seekrit.
/Shhhhhh....
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KSK Sun, May 24, 2009 12:57:43pm |
In Germany, we just celebrated the 60th anniversary of our Basic Law, the foundation of the Federal Republic of Germany.
Which would not exist without the sacrifice of so many brave American troops.
For this (and many other things)
Thank You und Danke schön!
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MacDuff Sun, May 24, 2009 12:58:22pm |
re: #263 Bobibutu
He was pretty special - wish we had more like him now. He gave up much to become a public servant - returned to private public service and philanthropy when he left the government.
Absolutely fascinating. I have to ask, since you have no doubt thought about this. Were Kennedy alive today, what do you think would be his perspective of the current Democrat/Republican parties?
Granted, different men, different times, different challeges, but I would be curious as to your thoughts on this.
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baconeatingkaffir Sun, May 24, 2009 1:06:55pm |
re: #176 Macker
Yes, there is a reason why Marines stands for:
My
Ass
Rides
In
Navy
Equipment
Safely
Yes, but you also forgot what US ARMY stands for
Uncle
Sam
Aint
Released
Me
Yet
It's been quite a long time since I last heard that.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 24, 2009 1:09:27pm |
re: #24 Walter L. Newton
That's kind of freaky. So, if you ever knew you were dying, you could pre-load LGF for a many days/years out as you wanted to, and the system (as long as the server and storage space was active) would go on with out you. That's so cool. No not you dying, but...
Yes, I'm sure that if Charles knew he was dying, he would want to spend his last days programming more threads for us to play with...
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snowcrash Sun, May 24, 2009 1:09:36pm |
I was a baby when my father was killed on the nuclear sub USS Thresher April 10, 1963. He was only 29 and just one of 129 men lost during deep sea trials. Wiki has a good page.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 24, 2009 1:13:59pm |
re: #80 Thanos
The Pan Serbian movement is rising again, that's why all the outreach to Orthodox Russia.
I got enormously drunk at a lunch once, and defended the U.S. involvement in the Balkans to a really obnoxious Russian guy who had some kind of crazy love for the Serbs. I have no idea why. He was a Jew. I doubt they returned the love.
I just kept knocking back more, and getting more and more Irish and irritating. Every now and then, a very nice man across the table from us would hiss in Russian at the obnoxious guy, and he'd simmer down a bit. It was really a lovely afternoon.
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realwest Sun, May 24, 2009 1:14:22pm |
re: #248 Charles
It is my fond hope that you will still put up a Memorial Day post tomorrow, the "official" Memorial Day.
Together,of course, with your wonderfully modified header with Old Glory on it.
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Charles Johnson Sun, May 24, 2009 1:16:37pm |
re: #264 Killgore Trout
Mah kounter geehad iz seekrit.
/Shhhhhh....
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 1:17:52pm |
re: #266 MacDuff
Absolutely fascinating. I have to ask, since you have no doubt thought about this. Were Kennedy alive today, what do you think would be his perspective of the current Democrat/Republican parties?
Granted, different men, different times, different challeges, but I would be curious as to your thoughts on this.
Labels can be so misleading ... however I think both would have been appalled at where the parties are now.
[Link: www.jfklibrary.org...]
"sought to foster economic growth through domestic tax cuts and international trade. Regarded as one of President Kennedy’s most influential economic advisors"
Different times but the math still works. As did their programs.
If Obama is a student of history it would seem he missed this chapter.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 24, 2009 1:19:07pm |
re: #150 Walter L. Newton
I just read the whole article posted at GoV. In my opinion, they are not hiding anything anymore. The language, tone and happily-mentioned associations they listed proves your point. If you ask me, they have totally come out with this article, and they are hiding nothing anymore.
I really resent the title of that place. My rabbi, who is a very elderly gentleman with a cute German accent, like to talk about turning back the Turks at the gates of Vienna. (No, we don't THINK he was there in person). The expression makes me think of him, and I do not care for it being used by unpleasant people.
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realwest Sun, May 24, 2009 1:21:11pm |
re: #276 callahan23
Hey my friend, yes I did, but have taken my "boatload" of medications and must go to sleep NOW. I'll try to respond to your e-mail in a few hours.
And thank you for sending it.
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callahan23 Sun, May 24, 2009 1:24:25pm |
re: #278 realwest
Hey my friend, yes I did, but have taken my "boatload" of medications and must go to sleep NOW. I'll try to respond to your e-mail in a few hours.
And thank you for sending it.
Take your time and don't hurry. That email's also a "boatload".
;-) {realwest}
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 24, 2009 1:26:07pm |
re: #187 Rexatosis
Re: # 136 sattv4u2
Teach college, you wouldn't believe how unprepared incoming freshman are these days, no knowledge of the basic outline of US History nor Western Civilization. Instead they get World Civ. which is essentially a disjointed hash teaching basically nothing (teaching 3000 years of Western History is tough enough but now they try and jam 4000 years of Chinese and Indian history into a couple of weeks with a dash of Pre-Columbian and African history, it just doesn't work), and lots of "technology" driven drivel (In the 50's, 60's, and 70's the worst teachers relied on films, in the 80's it was video, now it is the Internet, same crap wrapped in a new package.) And does anyone know how to read a map? The lack of geographic knowledge is scary. I won't even go off on the lack of basic economic literacy, math literacy, nor scientific literacy.
Interesting to hear you say that, because I've been watching the World History teachers all year, wondering how the hell they're doing it. I walk into the teacher's lounge and say "How's the Age of Exploration going?" and they say "We started the French Revolution last week."
It's a lot. I think we need to require more history classes.
They do work hard to get the geography in, though. I understand a lot of departments don't.
I was impressed though, that all my freshman knew about Stalingrad, when it was mentioned in a novel we're reading. And the lady who teaches U.S. History is amazing.
They should all take four years of history, that's all there is to it. And the U.S. Govt and econ classes should be in addition to, not instead of.
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quickjustice Sun, May 24, 2009 1:28:37pm |
re: #271 snowcrash
{snowcrash} G-d bless him, and your entire family, for his service.
My other uncle was a U.S. Navy engineer aboard the U.S.S. Missouri. The kill rate against Japanese subs was deplorable, because depth charges used contact fuses. It was tough to hit the hulls of the submerged Jap submarines directly with a depth charge. He went back to the lab, and developed a magnetic fuse for the depth charges that would detonate in the proximity of steel hulls. Kill rates went up by an order of magnitude.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, May 24, 2009 1:31:11pm |
re: #248 Charles
That person has an account of the brave anti-jihadists' field trip to the dreaded Malmo -- where they observed Muslims doing ... well, nothing out of the ordinary. They went there during the day instead of at night, when "violent mobs roam the streets."
Of course, they didn't actually see any violent mobs or much of anything else, except people going about their business.
It's a plot! Sharia! Jihad! We're all doomed unless we do something right now! ! !
I wish some Euro-Zombie had done a report.
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 1:36:57pm |
re: #272 SanFranciscoZionist
I got enormously drunk at a lunch once, and defended the U.S. involvement in the Balkans to a really obnoxious Russian guy who had some kind of crazy love for the Serbs. I have no idea why. He was a Jew. I doubt they returned the love.
I just kept knocking back more, and getting more and more Irish and irritating. Every now and then, a very nice man across the table from us would hiss in Russian at the obnoxious guy, and he'd simmer down a bit. It was really a lovely afternoon.
Here's why ...
[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]
and
[Link: www.croatianhistory.net...]
We could replace "science" with "history" here:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
But with history some stuff gets fuzzy and imprecise added with emotion and we have encounters as you did (I had one as well will peers over the same issue via the net back in the 90s.)
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MacDuff Sun, May 24, 2009 1:38:40pm |
re: #275 Bobibutu
Thank you for your reply and your candor. Yes, political labels become more misleading by the day.
The relatively short Kennedy administration, I believe, was largely responsible for a decade of economic growth and prosperity that followed. We could use more men with the philosophy of your cousin today.
Thanks again!
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Zimriel Sun, May 24, 2009 1:42:25pm |
re: #256 Killgore Trout
Ok, it's pretty clear that the counter jihad summit and the "free press society" conference were the same event
Beerandsandwiches (Google Cache)Also has video of Spencer in Copenhagen, coincidentally sandwiched between two posts about the counterjihad summit.
I figured that was the case when I noticed the pro-Köln article on the "free press society" web page. We're not exactly dealing with Reporters Across Borders here.
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Zimriel Sun, May 24, 2009 1:46:09pm |
re: #247 Killgore Trout
My guess is that the counterjihad summit has been folded in to the "free press society" meeting. They're trying to hide it in hopes of putting the controversy behind them.
They are following the same path as our creationists. Outright creationism is attempting to clothe itself as a self-proclaimed educational free-speech movement; c.f. Expelled. The bigots realise that talking about jihad has been marking them as haters, and they're declaring themselves objective reporters now.
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 1:54:13pm |
re: #285 MacDuff
Thank you for your reply and your candor. Yes, political labels become more misleading by the day.
The relatively short Kennedy administration, I believe, was largely responsible for a decade of economic growth and prosperity that followed. We could use more men with the philosophy of your cousin today.
Thanks again!
Yes you are correct. It was not rocket science tho it seemed so at the time.
CDD was a rare bird.
One for whom math, science and love of country came before politics yet his love of the arts was his true passion.
My best friend surprised me with a copy of this publication a few years ago on my birthday - got it on ebay.
[Link: www.time.com...]
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Filala Sun, May 24, 2009 2:38:28pm |
My Uncle Carl, of blessed memory, was wounded on the Anzio Beachhead and received the Purple Heart. When I was a child I remember leaning out of the car window and shouting "Attention" to any soldier that I saw in my small town of Carthage, Mo. They all snapped to attention and left me with a smile in my heart. G-d Bless America.
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A Kiwi Infidel Sun, May 24, 2009 4:15:40pm |
I take my hat off, stand to attention and salute those alive and the memory of those departed who served with honour to defend the freedom of the free west, whether in active service or behind in lines in support. As for the fucktard students at Auckland university who protested at New Zealand's historical involvement in "Imperial Wars" I say, "Thank the Lord we do not have to depend on you spineless arseholes to defend our freedom, the very freedom you abuse in your protest"
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yochanan Sun, May 24, 2009 4:17:43pm |
re: #284 Bobibutu
everyone in these 3 national groups has blood on their hands.
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yochanan Sun, May 24, 2009 4:19:47pm |
re: #290 A Kiwi Infidel
pretty much the same in American universities.
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DaveinMD Sun, May 24, 2009 4:52:13pm |
My father couldn't serve, he was a polio child. My uncle did, though, in occupied Japan after the war. I served, and now my nephew is an infantryman, readying to deploy to Iraq. I wish I had had more time to talk to my uncle before he passed. I hope my (step) kids will have some interest for my stories. And I hope my nephew will get to tell a boatload of stories of his own.
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RoughRider Sun, May 24, 2009 6:31:04pm |
I'm just back home from a weekend Scout campout where my little Cub took part in a ceremony to retire an American flag. I hope the sincerity and solemnity of the act wasn't lost on them despite their age. He said he wants to call my grandfather -- a WWII Navy veteran on a carrier in the Pacific Fleet -- to tell him.
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quickjustice Sun, May 24, 2009 7:28:43pm |
re: #95 pre-Boomer Marine brat
My former boss dated Martha Ray back in the 1950s. She was hot at that time!
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Bob Dillon Sun, May 24, 2009 8:25:26pm |
re: #291 yochanan
everyone in these 3 national groups has blood on their hands.
Yes and they each can justify their actions.
Another "everyones guilty and no one's to blame".
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jaunte Sun, May 24, 2009 8:32:41pm |
re: #297 realwest
Hi realwest. What are you doing out here on the back porch?
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realwest Sun, May 24, 2009 8:34:44pm |
Hi juante! Just reading this thread. I've about got a halfway decent outline for the comment I'd like to try tomorrow - the "official" Memorial Day and had some "writer's block".
How are you and what are you doing out here on the back porch?
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jaunte Sun, May 24, 2009 8:35:59pm |
re: #299 realwest
Just came back to say hi; come on up to the front!
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realwest Sun, May 24, 2009 8:37:33pm |
re: #300 jaunte I might do that juante - loooong thread though, I'd never catch up I'm afraid.
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airmech Mon, May 25, 2009 6:26:25am |
Here is a great Poem for Memorial Day! Let us all remember, thank and Pray for our Veterans. I am proud to be the son of a Veteran!
In Flanders Fields
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army
In Flanders Fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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Kobalt Mon, May 25, 2009 6:27:21am |
Had no idea about the parade.
I'm in DC so I'll go!
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Arrr Mon, May 25, 2009 6:40:27am |
My best friend is in Iraq, and I've timed it so that a bunch of obscure DVDs he's always wanted arrive around this time.
Heading outside now to raise the flag.
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