Sekrit Counter-Jihad Summit Held

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Another “counter-jihad summit” was held last weekend at a secret, highly secure location somewhere in the wilds of Muslim-occupied Copenhagen. Somehow the brave anti-jihad warriors managed to avoid being beheaded.

UPDATE at 5/24/09 5:20:46 pm:

Speaking of the fascist sympathizers at Gates of Vienna (linked above), you can now find their articles at the website of the Czech Republic’s National Party — an extreme right-wing group allied with the neo-Nazi British National Party, that advocates a ‘Final Solution’ to the gypsy problem.

A far-right party in Czech Republic which demanded a ‘final solution’ to the issue of gypsies has been exposed as having strong links with the BNP in Britain.

The National Party in Prague stunned mainstream politicians and viewers with an electioneering ad using Nazi-era rhetoric that called for a ‘final solution to the gypsy issue’.

In WW2 the highest echelons of the Nazi party in Germany sought the ‘final solution to the Jewish question’ – the euphemism which covered the industrial-scale slaughter of six million men, women and children in the extermination camps.

In the tasteless Czech ad the camera pans over dishevelled and dirty-looking Roma women and children, intended to show them in the worst possible light, before a voice-over says: ‘We call for final solution to the gypsy issue’.

There were also slogans on screen such as ‘Stop black racism,’ ‘No favouring of Gypsies’, and ‘We don’t want black racists among us’. Czech bigots routinely refer to Roma people as blacks.

The National Party’s Petra Edelmannova was a featured speaker at the recent “Pro-Köln” demonstration in Germany; other scheduled speakers included Robert Spencer of jihadwatch.org and Pamela Geller of atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com, who backed out when their planned participation was exposed by LGF.

Edelmannova’s appearance at “Pro-Köln” was hyped recently by … you guessed it … Gates of Vienna.

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865 comments
1 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:53:11pm
2 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:54:11pm

Repost:

About the "counter-jihad" going secret- I don't understand it. I thought they were proud of their work and there were no issues with their alliance because their friends are pure as the driven snow. So why the secrecy?

3 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:54:18pm

Pam has declared a Jihad on Rabbi Avi Weiss.

4 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:54:23pm

For those guys, any would-be beheaders would have to hire a proctologist first.

5 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:54:58pm

In a bunker made from Legos, probably.

6 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:55:30pm
7 ArmyWife  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:56:08pm

Just because you line the basement walls with tinfoil does not mean it is a secret bunker.

8 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:56:49pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey


Lego my Eggo unclaimed $55 billion in unclaimed funds that former Ministry of Petrolium and Industrial Development Anzinzau e-mailed me about after he was ousted!

9 vxbush  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:57:17pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Repost:

About the "counter-jihad" going secret- I don't understand it. I thought they were proud of their work and there were no issues with their alliance because their friends are pure as the driven snow. So why the secrecy?

I think this is supposed to answer it--from the link that Charles posted:

Some of the most brilliant minds of the Western world were present in Steen’s flat on those two nights. If the world were organized rationally, these people would hold political office or be helping to form public policy in their respective countries. But, as it is, they have to use pseudonyms, hide their activities, and fly under the radar to avoid persecution for mounting a resistance to the destruction of their countries and their cultures.

Emphasis mine.

10 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:57:35pm

What exactly is that cat doing to itself?

11 Crimsonfisted  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:58:01pm

re: #10 Soona'

What exactly is that cat doing to itself?

That was my thought too!

12 vxbush  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:58:05pm

re: #9 vxbush

Emphasis mine.

Of course, you would think this would give them pause, but no.

13 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:58:26pm

I'm glad this thread is up. Now this comment is on-topic:

Notice how when a movement is discredited, it morphs into a (pretended) free-speech movement? "Oh, we're not creationists... we just want equal time in the classroom." "Oh, we're not neo-Nazis... we just want to reopen the debate over the so-called Holocaust."

And now, the pro-Koeln guys are gathering together in a "Free Speech International" conclave.

14 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:58:46pm

re: #10 Soona'

What exactly is that cat doing to itself?

Checking for balls- which apparently these brave counter-jihadis lack since they kept everything so secret. What are they ashamed of?

15 quickslow87  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:59:00pm

Charles, how do you find/make these hilarious pictures?

16 Mithrax  Sun, May 24, 2009 4:59:05pm

re: #9 vxbush

So brilliant that they can't see that they're hooking up with neo-nazis and facists....

Makes me think that we should all thank Harry Truman for his wisdom:

"The C students run the world"

17 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:00:13pm

On a completely unrelated note, I hope that tonight's Twins/Brewers game at the Metrodome will be able to get underway soon. I hear there was supposed to be some bad weather heading that way...and a rained-out Sunday Night Baseball game just plain sucks.

///

18 ArmyWife  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:01:02pm
Given the nature of our work, these networks must often be unobtrusive and non-public. Depending on the countries involved, our activities may be subject to harassment from government authorities, quasi-governmental entities such as Antifa, and Muslims. Several sessions dealt with the practicalities of recruiting, operating, and expanding under these circumstances, paying special attention to security issues.

If I may offer a suggestion - dissociate from those picked up in the last recruitment effort and fire the team who decided expanding by allowing racist punks in was a great plan.

19 Mithrax  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:01:20pm

re: #17 Fenway_Nation

Sigh.

I would have taken it in Atlanta the past three days.

Or boston the three before that.

20 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:01:41pm

re: #16 Mithrax

So brilliant that they can't see that they're hooking up with neo-nazis and facists....

Makes me think that we should all thank Harry Truman for his wisdom:

"The C students run the world"

The D- students are running this country.

21 Mithrax  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:02:17pm

re: #20 Soona'

The D- students are running this country.

Most of them are part of the new schooling system, where nobody fails.

22 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:02:43pm

From GoV:

The participants were a mix of writers, bloggers, webmasters, activists, and members of political parties. Among them were:

[...] Serge Trifkovic (Serbia) [...]

Serge Trifkovic alert.

23 Ojoe  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:02:57pm

Didn't the Saudi religious police types have a campaign against kitties a while back?

24 Crimsonfisted  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:03:34pm

re: #21 Mithrax

Most of them are part of the new schooling system, where nobody fails.

I thought the inmates were now running the asylum.

25 callahan23  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:04:24pm

re: #23 Ojoe

Didn't the Saudi religious police types have a campaign against kitties a while back?

Didn't they have a campaign against anything alive lately?

26 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:04:27pm

re: #18 ArmyWife

If I may offer a suggestion - dissociate from those picked up in the last recruitment effort and fire the team who decided expanding by allowing racist punks in was a great plan.

The JihadWatch and DhimmiWatch boards have been replaced by an entirely different set at great expense and at the last minute:
JOHN GOLDSTONE & "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Assisted By
EARL J. LLAMA
MIKE Q. LLAMA III
SY LLAMA
MERLE Z. LLAMA IX
Guest Comments By
40 SPECIALLY TRAINED
ECUADORIAN MOUNTAIN LLAMAS
6 VENEZUELAN RED LLAMAS
142 MEXICAN WHOOPING LLAMAS
14 NORTH CHILEAN GUANACOS
(CLOSELY RELATED TO THE LLAMA)
REG LLAMA OF BRIXTON
76000 BATTERY LLAMAS
FROM "LLAMA-FRESH" FARMS LTD. NEAR PARAGUAY
/apologies to Terry Jones etc

27 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:05:05pm

I see the link is to the Culturalists at GOV.

Does this mean they're going underground as a movement? Most already work out of their proverbial "parents basement" so they're already underground. Also,

WHen should we expect The Engineer's Guide to Sekrit Counter-Jihad Yodeling video?

/

28 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:05:08pm

re: #23 Ojoe

Didn't the Saudi religious police types have a campaign against kitties a while back?

Really? The bastards. Were they infidel kitties?

29 Mikky  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:05:16pm

re: #15 quickslow87

Charles, how do you find/make these hilarious pictures?

Either the uber-powers of MS paint, or a chan?
OR there could be a basement of palestinian children who are forced to make funnies for Charles under his Charles-tatorship.

Also, anyone notice the "I've been banned from LGF" ad in the sidebar? lol

30 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:05:18pm

LOL.

Some of the most brilliant minds of the Western world were present in Steen’s flat on those two nights.

Then Pamela tottered in, and the average IQ went to 64.

31 vxbush  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:05:29pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

From GoV:

Serge Trifkovic alert.

Good link. Fantastic background on that site (but I'm partial to fractals).

Now, I must slip into lurk mode or else head on to bed. Later, everyone.

32 Ojoe  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:05:50pm

re: #26 Zimriel

Møøse bites can be pretti nasti

33 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:05:51pm

re: #20 Soona'

The D- students are running this country.

With the enthusiastic support of the B-Minus Time Traveller:

34 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:05:59pm

re: #30 Cato the Elder

LOL.


Then Pamela tottered in, and the average IQ went to 64.

Up or down?

35 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:06:10pm

re: #26 Zimriel

The JihadWatch and DhimmiWatch boards have been replaced by an entirely different set at great expense and at the last minute:
JOHN GOLDSTONE & "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Assisted By
EARL J. LLAMA
MIKE Q. LLAMA III
SY LLAMA
MERLE Z. LLAMA IX
Guest Comments By
40 SPECIALLY TRAINED
ECUADORIAN MOUNTAIN LLAMAS
6 VENEZUELAN RED LLAMAS
142 MEXICAN WHOOPING LLAMAS
14 NORTH CHILEAN GUANACOS
(CLOSELY RELATED TO THE LLAMA)
REG LLAMA OF BRIXTON
76000 BATTERY LLAMAS
FROM "LLAMA-FRESH" FARMS LTD. NEAR PARAGUAY
/apologies to Terry Jones etc

JOHN SMITH
JOHN SMITH
JANE SMITH
JOHN SMITH
JOHN SMITH
JOHN SMITH
JANE SMITH
/Shh! We'll never tell who really made the Scientology episode

36 Ojoe  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:06:19pm

re: #28 Soona'

IIRC. Some lizard will know for sure.

BBL

37 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:07:01pm

re: #34 Zimriel

Up or down?

Down, by five points.

There were 14 other people in the room. You do the math.

38 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:07:32pm

re: #23 Ojoe

Didn't the Saudi religious police types have a campaign against kitties a while back?

That wouldn't make much sense....I think ol' Mo' himself has a soft-spot for kitties back in the day.

Dogs would make much more sense, but what exactly about the Magic Tragic Kingdom does make sense these days?

39 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:07:39pm

re: #29 Mikky

Either the uber-powers of MS paint, or a chan?
OR there could be a basement of palestinian children who are forced to make funnies for Charles under his Charles-tatorship.

Also, anyone notice the "I've been banned from LGF" ad in the sidebar? lol

The person whose blog is linked at that "banned from LGF" ad tried to register twice today.

40 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:09:30pm

re: #33 Fenway_Nation

With the enthusiastic support of the B-Minus Time Traveller:

Eww, is that Janeane Garofalo?

41 Truck Monkey  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:11:30pm

re: #23 Ojoe

Didn't the Saudi religious police types have a campaign against kitties a while back?

It's true that most Saudi men don't like pussy.

/where's Mandy

42 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:11:42pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

From GoV:

Serge Trifkovic alert.

If you read the GoV article, day two was spent shilling for the serbian lobby smearing Kosovo.

43 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:13:35pm

Someone registered with the name 'revjimsutter' today -- I don't know if it really is that kook, but I'm leaving the account open to see what it does.

44 Crimsonfisted  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:14:00pm

OT:
Still perusing The Phobia List. Who can tell me a this is:
Walloonphobia- Fear of the Walloons

45 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:15:43pm

re: #40 Alouette

Eww, is that Janeane Garofalo?

/Could be someone in a Halloween mask.

46 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:16:29pm
47 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:16:40pm

For some reason (possibly creeping senility) this reminds me of the Beverly Hillbillies espisode in which Jethro saw a James Bond movie and decided he wanted to be a "double-nought spy" too. In the usual manner of HB, various bits surreal comedy ensued.

48 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:18:01pm

re: #33 Fenway_Nation

That about sums it up.

49 solomonpanting  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:18:11pm
Some of the most brilliant minds of the Western world were present in Steen’s flat on those two nights.

"Don't it always seen to go
That you don't know what you got
'Til it's gone"

//

50 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:18:15pm

re: #44 Crimsonfisted

OT:
Still perusing The Phobia List. Who can tell me a this is:
Walloonphobia- Fear of the Walloons

Vlaams Belang's phear of the French Walloons who are in the other half of Belgium as opposed to Flanders. (that's discouting entirely those Frisians tucked in some corner...)

51 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:19:40pm
52 Crimsonfisted  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:20:12pm

re: #50 Thanos

Vlaams Belang's phear of the French Walloons who are in the other half of Belgium as opposed to Flanders. (that's discouting entirely those Frisians tucked in some corner...)

Sheesh, you would think that you could come up with a better word than that. Something with a bit more flair.

53 Crimsonfisted  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:21:03pm

re: #50 Thanos

Vlaams Belang's phear of the French Walloons who are in the other half of Belgium as opposed to Flanders. (that's discouting entirely those Frisians tucked in some corner...)

I guess I wasn;t really OT after all then!

54 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:21:16pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

Jeffro had the coolest spy hat.

55 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:21:20pm

re: #44 Crimsonfisted

OT:
Still perusing The Phobia List. Who can tell me a this is:
Walloonphobia- Fear of the Walloons

The weirdly named Walloons are the French-speaking people of Belgium, which more than enough reason to be afraid of them.
They form an uneasy combination with the rest of Belgians, the Phlegms Flemings. These are not related to lemmings though they are the group from which Vlaams Belang draws its membership.

56 freetoken  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:22:35pm

On a related note, I just posted a couple of spin-offs about the surging BNP, and that it looks like Nick Griffin will win a seat in the MEP.

57 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:22:42pm

See the update above for more interesting connections between the brave anti-jihad bloggers of Gates of Vienna and the Czech National Party -- who advocate a 'final solution' for gypsies in the Czech Republic.

58 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:22:49pm

re: #3 Alouette

Pam has declared a Jihad on Rabbi Avi Weiss.

WTF?!?!?! She is now officially certifiable. No question about it.

Rabbi Avi Weiss?

/Maybe she was thinking of NK *Spit*

59 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:23:11pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

For some reason (possibly creeping senility) this reminds me of the Beverly Hillbillies espisode in which Jethro saw a James Bond movie and decided he wanted to be a "double-nought spy" too. In the usual manner of HB, various bits surreal comedy ensued.

For some odd reason, that show still makes me laugh.

60 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:23:37pm

re: #53 Crimsonfisted

I guess I wasn;t really OT after all then!

Not at all, they nearly riot if some one reads in French instead of Dutch in the wrong section of Brabant...

61 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:24:06pm

re: #58 NY Nana

WTF?!?!?! She is now officially certifiable. No question about it.

Rabbi Avi Weiss?

/Maybe she was thinking of NK *Spit*

It's true, Nana. She called him a "kapo".

62 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:24:12pm

re: #51 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know on what grounds, but Avi Weiss has forgotten more about Judaism, and support for Jews and Israel, than Pam Geller is likely to know in a month of Shabbosim.

Geller calls him the "Jewicidal rabbi."

63 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:25:44pm

One of the participants, "Conservative Swede", has an ongoing discussion posted on his blog between him and "El Ingles" who was noted previously at LGF for having a violent fantasy of genocide essay posted at GoV.

64 ShanghaiEd  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:26:00pm

re: #50 Thanos

Vlaams Belang's phear of the French Walloons who are in the other half of Belgium as opposed to Flanders. (that's discouting entirely those Frisians tucked in some corner...)

I'm assuming that Walloons are secretly connected to Kurt Vonnegut's "Granfalloons":

...associations and societies based on a shared but ultimately fabricated premise.

65 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:26:15pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel

The weirdly named Walloons are the French-speaking people of Belgium, which more than enough reason to be afraid of them.
They form an uneasy combination with the rest of Belgians, the Phlegms Flemings. These are not related to lemmings though they are the group from which Vlaams Belang draws its membership.

Will they eventually run themselves over a cliff in a fit of mass suicide?

66 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:26:35pm

re: #61 Sharmuta

It's true, Nana. She called him a "kapo".

Meanwhile she sources most of her material from neo facist groups in Europe, and runs with stories from US Neo Nazis like Hal Turner.

/who's the Kapo?

67 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:26:39pm
68 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:27:38pm

re: #31 vxbush

Good link. Fantastic background on that site (but I'm partial to fractals).

Now, I must slip into lurk mode or else head on to bed. Later, everyone.

Fractals of all kinds are my screen savers. But sssshhhh! It's a sekrit.

69 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:27:53pm

re: #64 ShanghaiEd

You could well be right, but I'll have to plead the fifth of rye on that.

70 freetoken  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:27:59pm

BTW, reading the comments on that Sunday Express BNP article... we see several BNP sympathizers and UKIP hopefuls. Is the mood changing that much in Britain?

71 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:28:00pm

re: #65 Soona'

Will they eventually run themselves over a cliff in a fit of mass suicide?

We hope not. People like that tend to take their countries down with them.

72 ArmyWife  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:28:57pm

re: #61 Sharmuta

I think the silicone has been leaking and has affected her ability to be rational.

73 MrPaulRevere  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:29:06pm

Pamela Geller: Waging war on radical Islam one cocktail party at a time.

74 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:29:30pm
75 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:30:02pm

re: #57 Charles

Tipping point.

People thought Ralph Peters was crazy a couple of years when he wrote that we might someday have to send warships into Rotterdam and Hamburg to rescue threatened Muslim populations and, it would seem, certain others as well.
The only question now is whether we will be willing to do it.

A culture that was 20,000 years in the making does not change overnight. European multiculturalism is a fig leaf, a facade put up by the backward local media and their bureaucratic allies; with the crusader's fist ready, as always, to strike from the shadows.

76 Bloodnok  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:30:10pm

re: #73 MrPaulRevere

Pamela Geller: Waging war on radical Islam one cocktail party at a time.

Heh.

77 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:30:28pm

re: #68 Cato the Elder

Fractals of all kinds are my screen savers. But sssshhhh! It's a sekrit.

my skreensavr iz shipz...

78 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:30:40pm

re: #5 Fenway_Nation

In a bunker made from Legos, probably.

A formerly secret bunker at the Navel-gazing Observatory.
/s

79 rain of lead  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:30:51pm

re: #72 ArmyWife

I think the silicone has been leaking and has affected her ability to be rational.

your not implying that she has had.....enhancements
oh nos...

/

80 ShanghaiEd  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:30:59pm

re: #69 Thanos

You could well be right, but I'll have to plead the fifth of rye on that.

Yes! The only fifth I can take repeatedly...

81 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:31:42pm

re: #70 freetoken

BTW, reading the comments on that Sunday Express BNP article... we see several BNP sympathizers and UKIP hopefuls. Is the mood changing that much in Britain?

No, they are still minority but they are loud and persistent. Think of the Paulbots and how they used the net...

82 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:31:54pm

Coca Cola 600 canceled until noon tommorro.

83 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:32:12pm

re: #70 freetoken

BTW, reading the comments on that Sunday Express BNP article... we see several BNP sympathizers and UKIP hopefuls. Is the mood changing that much in Britain?

The expense-account disaster, which I've been playing up in comments here, is a windfall to the BNP. Labour and the Tories both were deep into this. The BNP is the one party that Sharon over in downtown Liverpool knows is not complicit with the political culture in Westminster.

It happens to be for the right reasons - they're a bunch of Nazis and freaks - but being completely shunned by the major parties, which are now known to be venal as well as incompetent, has its (political) advantages too.

84 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:32:39pm

re: #39 Charles

The person whose blog is linked at that "banned from LGF" ad tried to register twice today.

And they have money to blow on Google ads?

85 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:32:49pm

re: #57 Charles

See the update above for more interesting connections between the brave anti-jihad bloggers of Gates of Vienna and the Czech National Party -- who advocate a 'final solution' for gypsies in the Czech Republic.

Looks like Petra Edelmannova and her ilk want to relocate Czech Romanies to India. Now were have we heard about a policy of "relocation" before?

[Link: www.google.com...]

86 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:32:53pm

re: #31 vxbush

re: #68 Cato the Elder

Fractal Gallery

87 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:33:57pm

re: #84 Alouette

And they have money to blow on Google ads?

Nah -- nobody's paying for that ad. GoV does it for free, because they hate me that much.

88 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:34:08pm

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel

Tipping point.

People thought Ralph Peters was crazy a couple of years when he wrote that we might someday have to send warships into Rotterdam and Hamburg to rescue threatened Muslim populations and, it would seem, certain others as well.
The only question now is whether we will be willing to do it.

A culture that was 20,000 years in the making does not change overnight. European multiculturalism is a fig leaf, a facade put up by the backward local media and their bureaucratic allies; with the crusader's fist ready, as always, to strike from the shadows.

From the way it's going, it looks like they'll turn on the Jews long before they turn on the muslims.

89 medaura18586  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:35:12pm

"The first session on the second day was chaired by Serge Trifkovic"

[Link: www.kejda.net...]

Of course...

90 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:35:17pm

The speculation that Spencer's speech at Free Press Society was part of the counterjihad summit was too tenuous to include?

91 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:35:21pm

re: #61 Sharmuta

It's true, Nana. She called him a "kapo".

Is it OK to call her "Axis Sally", then? "Tokyo Rose" doesn't work, since Ms. Toguri-D'Aquino wasn't a nasty, shrieking, bitch.

92 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:35:28pm

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel

Tipping point.

People thought Ralph Peters was crazy a couple of years when he wrote that we might someday have to send warships into Rotterdam and Hamburg to rescue threatened Muslim populations and, it would seem, certain others as well.
The only question now is whether we will be willing to do it.

A culture that was 20,000 years in the making does not change overnight. European multiculturalism is a fig leaf, a facade put up by the backward local media and their bureaucratic allies; with the crusader's fist ready, as always, to strike from the shadows.

I don't believe it's anywhere near a "tipping point" in reality. But the fascist groups would love you to believe that.

93 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:35:32pm

Czech far-right party linked to BNP runs Euro election TV ads demanding 'Final Solution' to gypsy problem
By ALLAN HALL

BNP leader Nick Griffin, who has been linked to a far-right Czech party that has invoked Nazi rhetoric by demanding a 'final solution' to the gypsy problem

A far-right party in the Czech Republic, which has links with the BNP, has caused a storm by calling for a 'final solution to the gipsy issue'.

The Nazis used the term as a euphemism for the mass slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust.

The National Party in Prague made the call in a TV ad for the European Parliament elections next month.

The camera panned over dishevelled and dirty-looking Roma women and children, before a voice-over said 'we call for final solution to the gipsy issue'.

...

BNP leader Nick Griffin spoke last year at a rally of the National Party, which is also anti-immigration and anti-Muslim.

In his speech he railed against the accession of Turkey to the EU, saying that the introduction of millions of Muslims into the EU would 'drive down wages, living standards and increase taxes'.

His trip came after NP leader Petra Edelmannova was invited to a BNP festival, although other commitments stopped her attending. Edelmannova was the brains behind the 'final solution' ad. She wrote a pamphlet using the phrase last year.

94 yochanan  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:35:47pm

this is even worse as the nazi's had a final solution to the Romany problem'

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

95 ArmyWife  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:35:56pm

re: #79 rain of lead

Implying? No. No implication needed.

96 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:36:01pm

re: #70 freetoken

Looks like it. I'd never heard of UKIP until this morning.

97 freetoken  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:36:01pm

re: #83 Zimriel

That is the belief of Richard North (over at EUReferendum) - the scandals are a windfall for the BNP

/BTW, said Mr. North is the father of the now-banned-at-LGF UKIP supporter "Acidtrash"

98 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:36:10pm

re: #88 Soona'

From the way it's going, it looks like they'll turn on the Jews long before they turn on the muslims.

I'm afraid you're right, with the Muslims stupidly cheering them on, unaware that they are next on the hit list.

99 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:36:12pm
100 medaura18586  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:36:58pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

From GoV:

Serge Trifkovic alert.

Ah -- you beat me to it. :)

101 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:37:19pm

re: #90 Killgore Trout

The speculation that Spencer's speech at Free Press Society was part of the counterjihad summit was too tenuous to include?

Spencer was definitely in Copenhagen the same week as the sekrit sumit, but without more evidence that he actually participated I'm going to hold off for now. (I do strongly suspect he was there and they're concealing it.)

102 rain of lead  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:37:29pm

re: #95 ArmyWife

yeah I know, gravity is not her friend

103 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:37:52pm

re: #58 NY Nana

WTF?!?!?! She is now officially certifiable. No question about it.

Rabbi Avi Weiss?

/Maybe she was thinking of NK *Spit*


[Video]

Pam linked to my blog post about the Muslima who prayed at the Riverdale Jewish Center.

I don't know what kind of comments that generated over at her site, because I didn't feel like reading that crap. She didn't even give me a trackback link, the bitch.

Anyway, I'm going to a cheesecake party. A bunch of ladies will share recipes, a local caterer will give a demo, and there will be a dessert table!

See you guys later!

104 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:38:01pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Is it OK to call her "Axis Sally", then? "Tokyo Rose" doesn't work, since Ms. Toguri-D'Aquino wasn't a nasty, shrieking, bitch.

Blogdog Babs.

105 Mikky  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:38:08pm

re: #39 Charles

The person whose blog is linked at that "banned from LGF" ad tried to register twice today.

Dead reply, I know - but does this happen often? I'm still a newbie round these parts.

106 vxbush  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:38:49pm

re: #86 reine.de.tout

re: #68 Cato the Elder

Fractal Gallery

Now that is d@mn cool.

107 yochanan  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:39:25pm

re: #98 Shiplord Kirel

the only question is after the last of europe's jews and romany are finished off will be who will turn on whom? the euro fascists on the islmo fascists or the other way around more likely the latter.

108 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:40:10pm

re: #105 Mikky

Dead reply, I know - but does this happen often? I'm still a newbie round these parts.

Every time registration opens. They're like flies battering themselves against the window again and again.

109 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:41:07pm

re: #102 rain of lead

yeah I know, gravity is not her friend

Is it anybody's over the age of 45?

110 Yankee Division Son  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:41:17pm

OT - On this day in history, May 24th, 1941

Around 06.00 after firing two or three salvos, German battleship BISMARK hits Britain's HMS Hood in her main magazine which blows up with only three survivors and 1418 casualties. She sinks at 63 20N, 31 50W. Now it is HMS Prince of Wales turn to be the target. After being hit several times she turns away but not before damaging BISMARK and causing her to lose fuel oil to the sea. German Admiral Lutjens then decides to make for St. Nazaire in France and heads southwest and later south out of the Denmark Strait. The two RN cruisers, and for a while the damaged Prince of Wales, continue to shadow. Admiral Tovey hurries west with the rest of Home Fleet.

With Hood's loss, Force H (Admiral Somerville) with battle cruiser HMS Renown, carrier Ark Royal and cruiser HMS Sheffield is sailing north from Gibraltar. Battleship Ramillies, released from convoy escort duties, and Rodney, then to the west of Ireland, head towards BISMARK's expected track. Ramillies does not play a part in later operations.

At 18.00 BISMARK feints north towards her shadowers long enough to allow Prinz Eugen to get away.

Within hours, British prime minister Winston Churchill issues orders to all available British vessels in the North Atlantic to "Sink the Bismarck at any cost".

111 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:41:26pm

Seems Trifkovic wrote a "farewell" column for his magazine, including this little tidbit:

It remains to be seen how far capitalism will carry us before social conservatives awake to its dangers. When free men are allowed to amass great fortunes from global rackets in gambling, pornography, prostitution, narcotics, weaponry, and usury, the permanent things can only expect short shrift. Ultimately, such unrestrained capitalism is on the side of our enslavers. In a thoroughly capitalist world, men will buy and sell each other. Only a power independent of the free market can save us from the slave market.

112 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:41:58pm

re: #65 Soona'

Will they eventually run themselves over a cliff in a fit of mass suicide?

Considering there are no cliffs in the Netherlands, they will probably run in circles looking for one until they die of exhaustion.

113 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:42:33pm

Last week Vlaams Belang, the great supporters of free speech and democracy, physically stopped another political party from hanging posters.....
Belgium's linguistic tensions flare over election posters

Belgium's intercommunal tensions were highlighted Friday when Dutch-speaking Flemish nationalists stopped Francophone Union supporters from putting up French-language election posters in a flashpoint Brussels suburb.

In front of television cameras, the French-speaking activists tried in vain to approach official regional election hoardings, prevented by dozens of supporters of the far right Vlaams Belang (Flemish Interests) party and fellow Flemish nationalist group TAK.

The Flemish activists grabbed posters and glue pots from the hands of the Francophone Union members and militant Francophone Front supporters who accompanied them during the affray in the Dutch-speaking suburb of Halle, which has become an emblem for Belgium's intercommunal differences.

114 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:43:47pm

WRITTEN COMMENTS
OF THE EUROPEAN ROMA RIGHTS CENTRE
AND VZÁJEMNÉ SOUŽITÍ
CONCERNING THE CZECH REPUBLIC

On 28 October 2006, the anniversary of the founding of independent Czechoslovakia, police arrested National Party leader Petra Edelmannova, four other National Party members and another participant as they began a demonstration under a banner reading “Let’s Incinerate Muslim Hatred”. The arrests were made on the grounds that the demonstrators intended to set something on fire.15 Skinhead demonstrations convened by other organizers also took place in the town of Ostrava on that day.

• In November 2006, demonstrations ostensibly to mark the anniversary of the death of Franco were held by skinheads on the same day as the anniversary of Kristallnacht.

115 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:43:54pm
116 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:44:42pm

re: #113 Killgore Trout

Here's video of them in the action of supporting free speech.....
Vlaams nationalisten beletten Franstaligen affiches te plakken in Halle

117 MrPaulRevere  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:45:22pm

re: #111 Sharmuta

Fascinating that Trifkovic would be against 'usury', so are Islamists.

118 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:46:15pm

Additionally from Trifkovic:

It remains to be seen how far capitalism will carry us before social conservatives awake to its dangers. When free men are allowed to amass great fortunes from global rackets in gambling, pornography, prostitution, narcotics, weaponry, and usury, the permanent things can only expect short shrift. Ultimately, such unrestrained capitalism is on the side of our enslavers. In a thoroughly capitalist world, men will buy and sell each other. Only a power independent of the free market can save us from the slave market.

Historically, Mitchell notes, only two institutions have been up to the task: the institutions of nondemocratic governments that guard against accumulation of wealth outside government control, and a unified Christian Church whose wealth and power are committed to nonmarket purposes. “Democracy alone is no match for the market,” Mitchell concludes, “for democracy is itself a market, selling power to the highest bidder.” Indeed, democracy in America is a corrupt “democratic process” run by an elite class that conspires both to make secondary issues important and to treat important issues as either irrelevant or illegitimate: One party may be in; another, out; but the regime is in power permanently.

He wants theocracy.

119 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:46:37pm

re: #110 Yankee Division Son

OT - On this day in history, May 24th, 1941

Around 06.00 after firing two or three salvos, German battleship BISMARK hits Britain's HMS Hood in her main magazine which blows up with only three survivors and 1418 casualties. She sinks at 63 20N, 31 50W. Now it is HMS Prince of Wales turn to be the target. After being hit several times she turns away but not before damaging BISMARK and causing her to lose fuel oil to the sea. German Admiral Lutjens then decides to make for St. Nazaire in France and heads southwest and later south out of the Denmark Strait. The two RN cruisers, and for a while the damaged Prince of Wales, continue to shadow. Admiral Tovey hurries west with the rest of Home Fleet.

With Hood's loss, Force H (Admiral Somerville) with battle cruiser HMS Renown, carrier Ark Royal and cruiser HMS Sheffield is sailing north from Gibraltar. Battleship Ramillies, released from convoy escort duties, and Rodney, then to the west of Ireland, head towards BISMARK's expected track. Ramillies does not play a part in later operations.

At 18.00 BISMARK feints north towards her shadowers long enough to allow Prinz Eugen to get away.

Within hours, British prime minister Winston Churchill issues orders to all available British vessels in the North Atlantic to "Sink the Bismarck at any cost".

There were only three survivors from the Hood sinking.

120 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:46:44pm

I'd really like to know if a certain fellow who has given us so many ritzy ROFLs and tender nights of big diamond crackups and jazz-age anti-jihad shuck-and-jives and paradise tycoons in their beautiful, damned taps and reveilles for the sad young men with their curious buttons was there.

He's sooper-sekrit.

121 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:47:26pm

re: #104 Soona'

Blogdog Babs.

Works for me.

122 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:47:59pm

re: #103 Alouette

Pam linked to my blog post about the Muslima who prayed at the Riverdale Jewish Center.

I don't know what kind of comments that generated over at her site, because I didn't feel like reading that crap. She didn't even give me a trackback link, the bitch.

Anyway, I'm going to a cheesecake party. A bunch of ladies will share recipes, a local caterer will give a demo, and there will be a dessert table!

See you guys later!

The other night I found one of their blogs stealing my content as in a whole post, I filed a DCMA, but we'll see how that goes..

123 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:48:29pm

Czech far-right party head writes PhD thesis on nationalism-press
Prague, 30.4.2007, 09:09, (ČTK)

Petra Edelmannova, chairwoman of the Czech far-right National Party (NS), writes a PhD thesis about Czech national interests, identity and nationalism in Czech politics in 2002-2006, the daily Pravo writes today.

Edelmannova, aged 28, wants to end her PhD study at Prague University of Economics (VSE) this year.

She claims she is able to make clear differences between politics and political science. "Otherwise I probably couldn't end my studies," she says.

Edelmannova said that at first teachers at her university department seemed to fear that she would promote her political views at classes or conferences.

"But soon everybody found out that my presentations are absolutely professional," she told the paper.

The paper says that Edelmannova's thesis surprisingly does not present radical views and that it even does not assess her own party positively.

Last year, the National Party wanted to place a controversial memorial to war victims at the location of the wartime internment camp for Romanies in Lety, south Bohemia.

"We believe that such people are not worth to have memorials built. We build a memorial to those who achieved something," Pravo quotes Edelmannova as saying about the Lety victims. "When people do not observe good hygiene and then spread infectious diseases, it is in fact their fault," she added.

According to historical documents, 326 people perished in the Lety camp and more than 500 of its inmates ended up in the extermination camp in Oswiecim (Auschwitz). The NS argues that the Lety camp was only a work camp where Romanies died of common diseases.

Edelmannova is known for her radical opinions about Romanies and other races living in the Czech Republic. The paper recalls that she promotes the idea that these minorities should emigrate or return to their homeland.

"We support the emigration of Gypsies currently living in the Czech Republic to India. Racism is natural fear of danger," Edelmannova said last year according to Pravo.

Last November, Edelmannova was detained during her party's rally held under the slogan "Let's Burn Muslim Hatred."

124 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:48:46pm

re: #97 freetoken

That is the belief of Richard North (over at EUReferendum) - the scandals are a windfall for the BNP

/BTW, said Mr. North is the father of the now-banned-at-LGF UKIP supporter "Acidtrash"

To be clear: nothing I said here is to be taken as an endorsement of the UKIP or EUReferendum. I came up with that based on my own reading of the situation. Politics being the zero sum game it is: if something is hurting the major parties, it helps the minor parties. That's just math. I don't like it any more than you do.

125 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:49:14pm

re: #111 Sharmuta

Seems Trifkovic wrote a "farewell" column for his magazine, including this little tidbit:

Pure fascism. Mussolini would be proud.

/spits

126 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:49:14pm

re: #118 Sharmuta

Additionally from Trifkovic:


He wants theocracy.

To me, it sounds like an Obama speech.

127 Yankee Division Son  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:49:25pm

re: #119 Soona'

Correct.

128 MrPaulRevere  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:50:11pm

re: #117 MrPaulRevere

Those that rail against 'usury' use it as a code word for 'Jewish bankers', IMO.

129 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:50:43pm

The Trifkovic article can be found at the zonka blog in the google link above.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:51:10pm

re: #119 Soona'

There were only three survivors from the Hood sinking.

Of those three, only Ted Briggs is still alive. Still, within a week Bismarck would be destroyed in turn.

131 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:51:52pm

I need some brain bleach. These people are disgusting.

132 freetoken  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:52:45pm

re: #124 Zimriel

To be clear: nothing I said here is to be taken as an endorsement of the UKIP or EUReferendum.

Didn't mean to imply that you did.

One thing is clear - the current political mood in the UK is in turmoil, and it is in such situations that extremist groups pick up support. Now, whether that can translate into long term gains is another question. The BNP likely will do well in certain constituencies, but overall will do squat wrt membership in Parliament.

The rise of the minor parties in the UK may keep either the Tories or Labor from getting a majority in Parliament, though, and that could be interesting.

133 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:52:51pm
134 ArmyWife  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:52:56pm

Buying the rice krispie treats was NOT one of my better plans. Do they put crack in these things? sheesh.

Ok, back on topic.

135 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:53:12pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Repost:

About the "counter-jihad" going secret- I don't understand it. I thought they were proud of their work and there were no issues with their alliance because their friends are pure as the driven snow. So why the secrecy?

Did you ever see the Calvin and Hobbes cartoons where they had a super-secret club in their tree-fort?

136 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:53:45pm

re: #126 Soona'

To me, it sounds like an Obama speech.

Oh, for Pete's sake. Get a grip.

137 JHW  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:54:20pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

I'm not positive, but I think he died recently, I posted a link here IIRC.

138 MPH  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:54:29pm

re: #101 Charles

Spencer was definitely in Copenhagen the same week as the sekrit sumit, but without more evidence that he actually participated I'm going to hold off for now. (I do strongly suspect he was there and they're concealing it.)

[Link: twitter.com...]

139 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:55:12pm

re: #43 Charles

I just googled that name out of curiousity. What a piece of shit! An impersonator of a military hero, a swindler of the old and poor. Anything bad that happens to that guy is more than well deserved! Ugh!

140 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:55:33pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

Of those three, only Ted Briggs is still alive. Still, within a week Bismarck would be destroyed in turn.

"Bismarck". The pride of Hitler's fleet, sunk by obsolete torpedo planes.

141 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:56:18pm

Anyone speak french well enough to translate this new VB video?
racisme at antwerp(belgium)!

racisme nazi skinheads holigan vlaams belang kiel antwerpen maroc meknes mardrid soccer football barcelona

It appears to be new and was posted recently but they're refering to themselves as "Vlaams Block". They zoomed in on the skinhead's tatoo but I couldn't tell what it was. I think the woman in the burka said she has no genitals.

142 dmandman  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:56:54pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

The Repulse and Prince of Wales both sank a few years later because in spite of Pearl Harbor the Admiral in charge couldn't wait for for air support and he believed in the theory that a capital ship while able to maneuver could not be sunk by a little airplane. He went down with his ship.

143 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:57:51pm

... and after the summit, they all sat around the flat watching reruns of "Upstairs, Downstairs" while passing around large bags of Cheezy-doodles and Funyons.

144 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:58:07pm

re: #118 Sharmuta

Additionally from Trifkovic:


He wants theocracy.

Interesting, the reference to "usury", too. International bankers, if you know what I mean, nudge nudge.

145 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:59:28pm

Trifkovic has buchanan as an author on his blog.

146 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:59:40pm

re: #142 dmandman

The Repulse and Prince of Wales both sank a few years later because in spite of Pearl Harbor the Admiral in charge couldn't wait for for air support and he believed in the theory that a capital ship while able to maneuver could not be sunk by a little airplane. He went down with his ship.

It was WWII where the whole "battleship" concept literally went down in flames.

147 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 5:59:48pm

re: #145 Sharmuta

Trifkovic has buchanan as an author on his blog.

And Taki Theodoracopulos too.

148 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:00:20pm

And Justin Raimondo too.

149 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:00:28pm

re: #126 Soona'

To me, it sounds like an Obama speech.

I was thinking the same thing, especially the lines,
"Only a power independent of the free market can save us" (Government takeovers)
"the institutions of nondemocratic governments that guard against accumulation of wealth outside government control" (redistribution of wealth)
"democracy in America is a corrupt “democratic process” run by an elite class that conspires both to make secondary issues important and to treat important issues as either irrelevant or illegitimate" (class warfare)
Charles, I shall have to disagree with you on this one. Some points do compare favorably with what Obama has been saying.

150 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:01:06pm

re: #138 MPH

[Link: twitter.com...]

I knew about that -- it's posted at the "International Free Press Society" (which would be better named "International Fascist Sympathizers Society") website. But there's nothing on the web so far that links Spencer to the sekrit sumit.

151 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:01:45pm

re: #141 Killgore Trout

This is an old vid, note how young Filip is in it and that he's saying Vlaams Blok instead of Belang. I"ve seen it before, basically there's scenes of him talking to supporters and some of them expressing racist sentiment. If it's the full version you see him grinning as an old Antwerper throws a chair at a Morrocan and yells "Macaque!"

152 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:02:13pm

re: #44 Crimsonfisted

I hope I never have this phobia!
Caligynephobia- Fear of beautiful women.

153 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:02:25pm

re: #145 Sharmuta

Trifkovic has buchanan as an author on his blog.

They're all connected.

154 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:03:04pm

re: #151 Thanos

This is an old vid, note how young Filip is in it and that he's saying Vlaams Blok instead of Belang.


Ah, ok. I don't remember seeing it before. I was just looking for the yellowman blog that made the video and it seems she's quit blogging.

155 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:04:26pm

Keep in mind that Jim Webb is in office today because his Republican opponent used the word "Macaque" in reference to a human one time. People don't realize how stupid it is to align or even appear sympathetic to these people.

156 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:05:08pm

re: #153 Charles

They're all connected.

Rockford, Free Congress Foundation, and at other points.

157 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:05:28pm

re: #155 Thanos

Keep in mind that Jim Webb is in office today because his Republican opponent used the word "Macaque" in reference to a human one time. People don't realize how stupid it is to align or even appear sympathetic to these people.

to be accurate, he was referring to that 'humans" haircut, not him AS a human
IIRC

158 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:05:32pm

re: #145 Sharmuta

Trifkovic has buchanan as an author on his blog.

Buchanan is one of the reasons it has become so hard to listen to Sean Hannity anymore. Sean seems to have him on every week.

159 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:05:56pm

re: #150 Charles

I knew about that -- it's posted at the "International Freed Press Society" (which would be better named "International Fascist Sympathizers Society") website. But there's nothing on the web so far that links Spencer to the sekrit sumit.

A cynic might think they were intentionally trying to keep robert's reputation from being damaged, which is odd because they're not fascists- supposedly. No need to protect against the decent.

160 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:06:03pm

re: #140 Soona'

"Bismarck". The pride of Hitler's fleet, sunk by obsolete torpedo planes.

Technically, she was sunk by a destroyer torpedo attack after hous of brutal, point blank shelling.

/the Swordfish just damaged the rudder

161 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:06:09pm

re: #123 Gus 802

Czech far-right party head writes PhD thesis on nationalism-press
Prague, 30.4.2007, 09:09, (ČTK)

Last year, the National Party wanted to place a controversial memorial to war victims at the location of the wartime internment camp for Romanies in Lety, south Bohemia.

"We believe that such people are not worth to have memorials built. We build a memorial to those who achieved something," Pravo quotes Edelmannova as saying about the Lety victims. "When people do not observe good hygiene and then spread infectious diseases, it is in fact their fault," she added.

She's nastier than any disease that struck those prisoners.

"...she promotes the idea that these minorities should emigrate or return to their homeland. We support the emigration of Gypsies currently living in the Czech Republic to India."

How long ago did they migrate Westward? Is she 100 per cent sure that her ancestors have been there longer than theirs?

162 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:06:57pm

re: #126 Soona'

To me, it sounds like an Obama speech.

Nonsense. Whatever you may think about Obama, he is a democrat, and his secular views are beyond dispute:

163 Chicken Kiev  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:07:43pm

Muslims are rioting in Athens right now, burning cars and destroying things, because a cop allegedly desecrated a Koran.

164 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:08:22pm

re: #158 Soona'

Buchanan is one of the reasons it has become so hard to listen to Sean Hannity anymore. Sean seems to have him on every week.

Don't watch listen to Hanity any more.....I'm weary of Newt too.

165 MPH  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:08:25pm

re: #150 Charles

I knew about that -- it's posted at the "International Freed Press Society" (which would be better named "International Fascist Sympathizers Society") website. But there's nothing on the web so far that links Spencer to the sekrit sumit.

Even if he wasn't there -- the fact that he can't even reference this conference on JW says it all (he's attended and trumpeted the same conference in years past).

166 JHW  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:08:50pm

re: #156 Thanos

Lots of neo-Confederates and outright secessionists also, which tie into the whole pile as I'm sure you know.

167 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:09:00pm

re: #154 Killgore Trout

There's a youtube channel, "Kaya14" but there's not been new stuff there for about six months. Here's the link if you want to subscribe:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

168 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:09:42pm

re: #157 sattv4u2

Yes, and it didn't matter did it?

169 Jim in Virginia  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:09:50pm

re: #161 MandyManners

How long ago did they migrate Westward? Is she 100 per cent sure that her ancestors have been there longer than theirs?

Exactly. When did the "Bohemians" get to Bohemia?
Would the Indians want the Romanys back?

170 Alexzander  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:10:03pm

re: #13 Zimriel

I'm glad this thread is up. Now this comment is on-topic:

Notice how when a movement is discredited, it morphs into a (pretended) free-speech movement? "Oh, we're not creationists... we just want equal time in the classroom." "Oh, we're not neo-Nazis... we just want to reopen the debate over the so-called Holocaust."

And now, the pro-Koeln guys are gathering together in a "Free Speech International" conclave.

Well said. The motivational dishonesty of such groups (in all areas of politics/lobbying) is immensely frustrating.

171 MPH  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:10:45pm

re: #158 Soona'

Buchanan is one of the reasons it has become so hard to listen to Sean Hannity anymore. Sean seems to have him on every week.

Because Sean is ultimately a paleocon at heart, just like the rest of them...

172 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:10:53pm

re: #137 JHW

I'm not positive, but I think he died recently, I posted a link here IIRC.

He did indeed die in October of last year. RIP.

173 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:11:15pm

Ok Everyone -

Fascists be Fascists. Pam is Pam. Belgium, linguistically is more artificial than CANADA - Or the US Southwest for that matter.
One would think that in the 21st Century this stuff can be sorted out. I speak/read English - "5" on a scale of 0-5, Spanish "3.5," French "2.75," German "2.5" along with bits of Russian, Yiddish, and Japanese.
What troubles me more is the Apple "PC vs. Mac" Commercial I saw tonight.
"Mac" claims "no-virus, no crashes" - HORSE HOCKEY! "LESS" I would believe, and subscribe to. When you are about 10% of the market, a hacker would have to have a real "problem" with you to attack you rather than a system that has 80+% of the market.
If a "NutraCeutical" company made such a claim, the FDA would shut them down, QUICKLY - under Bush 43 OR Obama 44.
Bottom Line - Steve Jobs' NOSE should be "Spunked" for that ad.
As all 'y'all know - this 'pute is dual boot - Vista Home Premium/Ubuntu 9.4.0
I am coming to you on "Mojave" at this point.
Makes no difference. Both are "Hardy Herons" - Vista's real problem is the amount of "silicon" needed to make it work. Get with the program - silicon is getting cheaper and cheaper, so long as you OR your company can afford a new 'pute. Windows 7 is on the Horizon, I have tried it in "Beta" - "works great" - to the extent that "xp" worked better than "me" give or take.
Have tried "7" on an OLD "xp" machine - it WORKS - albeit, a bit slowly. Bill Gates has a winner in "7" - AND - If He were smart would package a FREE permanent upgrade with OFFICE. As an Open Office user, do I expect this?
The answer is NO - though hope springs eternal. Bill Gates, like a broken watch is correct at least two (2) times per day.

-S-

174 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:11:26pm

re: #163 Chicken Kiev

Muslims are rioting in Athens right now, burning cars and destroying things, because a cop allegedly desecrated a Koran.

Right, and it started with a far right beating of some muslims iirc and there was a Muslim prayer room torched yesterday. Someone's intentionally inciting these in my humble opinion.

175 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:12:08pm

re: #168 Thanos

Yes, and it didn't matter did it?

Not a twit. Just wanted the record straight that he didn't call a PERSON that, just tyhat persons HAIRCUT

176 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:12:24pm

re: #161 MandyManners

How long ago did they migrate Westward? Is she 100 per cent sure that her ancestors have been there longer than theirs?

More than likely her ancestors came from afar. Even richer is that she is not only clueless to that but she spoke at thie sekirt meeting -- the neo-Nazi fascist underground.

177 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:12:48pm

re: #141 Killgore Trout

Anyone speak french well enough to translate this new VB video?
racisme at antwerp(belgium)!

[Video]

It appears to be new and was posted recently but they're refering to themselves as "Vlaams Block". They zoomed in on the skinhead's tatoo but I couldn't tell what it was. I think the woman in the burka said she has no genitals.

the subtitles went by too fast for me to get a full grip on what they were saying.
But the woman in the burka was simply talking about her clothes - they were her fancy or best clothes. He said something like very nice (gentile is not genital).

178 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:12:49pm

re: #174 Thanos

Right, and it started with a far right beating of some muslims iirc and there was a Muslim prayer room torched yesterday. Someone's intentionally inciting these in my humble opinion.

It's historically a fascist tactic.

179 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:12:57pm

re: #160 Killian Bundy

Technically, she was sunk by a destroyer torpedo attack after hous of brutal, point blank shelling.

/the Swordfish just damaged the rudder

Don't go dissin' the box kites, 80-90 mph against all those AA guns, the Bismarck fired is main battery throwing up tons of water making the Swordfish have to dodge that too.

Heroic piece of flying to get those torps on target.

180 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:13:05pm

Charles, where was Geller during this summit? I haven't been paying attention.

181 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:13:24pm

I don't think Trifkovic has done much thinking about his Utopia. (Either that or he's trying to suck up to us Papists.) He claims he wants a unified Church but nondemocratic governments. I'm leaving aside whether this is a good idea or not. I'll just point out that this sounds like the model for Italy during the Late Middle Ages.

This was the age of that fabled Ghibelline and Guelf conflict. Ghibellines map pretty well to High Toryism; the Church rituals are still in place, but internal affairs are entirely directed by the local prince. Guelfs were more like the Whigs, except Catholic. The Guelfs generally won, after which they split into factions too (Dante Alleghieri was on the losing side of that later split).

During that time, the Church were for the Guelfs, and as such acted for free trade and representative government among the city states. The Church, as ever, has had her own agenda and that agenda has rarely aligned with any one nation's perceived self-interest. A unified and stronger international Church will just bring back the Guelfs again, and he'll still have to put up with capitalism.

There's a Ghibelline tone to his rant; which I'm sure has something to do with his Orthodox sympathies. He's going to want his undemocratic states to interfere with the Church, which means playing with their subjects' souls. He's headed to Emperor Justinian territory here, and I agree, this is fascist talk and decent people should want nothing to do with it.

182 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:13:26pm

re: #171 MPH

Because Sean is ultimately a paleocon at heart, just like the rest of them...

An interesting tidbit about Sean Hannity that a lot of people don't know:

During the late '90s, Hannity had featured neo-Nazi Hal Turner as a guest on his show. [11] Phil Boyce, program director at WABC-AM, told The Record of Bergen County, New Jersey that Turner's views were "inappropriate", and that they stopped taking his calls when "basically, the shows didn't feel he was of value anymore." For his part, Turner said that Hannity had become too "timid" and "politically correct".

183 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:14:01pm

re: #175 sattv4u2

Not a twit. Just wanted the record straight that he didn't call a PERSON that, just tyhat persons HAIRCUT

Np

184 freetoken  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:14:35pm

re: #163 Chicken Kiev

Just more kindling for the Euro-religio-nationalists' machine...

185 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:15:47pm

re: #178 Sharmuta

It's historically a fascist tactic.

The leftists burnt down the Golden horde's clubhouse *or whatever the Greek Neo nazis are called.. golden something... Maybe it's retaliation. It could get real ugly as summer progresses and temperatures rise along with tempers.

186 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:15:57pm

Sorry for the OT- Mandy, have you seen Susan's latest? (Rose- full clip here)

Now- back to the fascists.

187 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:16:12pm

re: #180 Irish Rose

Charles, where was Geller during this summit? I haven't been paying attention.

Don't know. It's very curious that neither Spencer nor Geller have anything at their blogs about the sekrit sumit.

188 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:16:47pm

re: #179 JCM

Don't go dissin' the box kites, 80-90 mph against all those AA guns, the Bismarck fired is main battery throwing up tons of water making the Swordfish have to dodge that too.

Heroic piece of flying to get those torps on target.

/brave, yeah, but I'm pretty sure they weren't aiming for the rudder

189 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:17:11pm

re: #79 rain of lead

Geller, three boobs in one.............

/whacked myself for that.

190 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:17:12pm

re: #162 Jimmah

Nonsense. Whatever you may think about Obama, he is a democrat, and his secular views are beyond dispute:

Much of what was written in that lengthy comment is what I'm seeing going on with the O administration and a democrat led congress. Perhaps I went to far to call it an Obama speech and that's fair enough. I'm more interested in the walk they're walking and not the talk they're talking. And, so far, they haven't given me any indication that they believe that capitalism is a good thing.

191 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:18:09pm

re: #188 Killian Bundy

/brave, yeah, but I'm pretty sure they weren't aiming for the rudder

LOL, likely, but it kept the Bismarck from making Brest.

192 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:18:34pm

re: #160 Killian Bundy

Technically, she was sunk by a destroyer torpedo attack after hous of brutal, point blank shelling.

/the Swordfish just damaged the rudder

Actually, the fatal torpedoes were fired by the heavy cruiser HMS Dorsetshire. The Dorsetshire survived Bismarck by less than a year: In April of 1942 she was caught without air cover in the Indian Ocean by IJN 'Val' dive bombers from the carriers Hiryu and Soryu. The dive bombers that destroyed her and her consort HMS Cornwall scored a never-to-be-equaled 90% hit or near miss rate, only to be mostly destroyed in their own turn when their carriers were sunk by USN dive bombers at Midway.

193 Jim in Virginia  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:18:56pm

re: #171 MPH

Because Sean is ultimately a paleocon ratings whore at heart...

194 JHW  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:20:04pm

re: #185 Thanos

Golden Dawn symbols and flags

wiki Chrysi Avyi, or Golden Dawn

195 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:20:26pm

re: #181 Zimriel

How can you say that? Trifkovic is one of the finest minds in the Western world! The Baron himself says so!

Срамотa на тебе, папистa!

196 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:20:45pm

OT/ The sun is setting right now, and there are beautiful pink clouds, like outstretched finger across the pale blue sky. Beautiful!
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

197 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:20:46pm

re: #186 Sharmuta

Speaking of OT, I was reading some fundy forums the other night and saw them really mad about a book. You might be interested, it's posted in books in spinoffs above.

198 yochanan  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:21:02pm

re: #174 Thanos

tit for tat?

too early for a boob thread?

199 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:21:16pm

re: #194 JHW

Golden Dawn symbols and flags

wiki Chrysi Avyi, or Golden Dawn

Yep, that's the one.

200 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:21:28pm

re: #188 Killian Bundy

/brave, yeah, but I'm pretty sure they weren't aiming for the rudder

A hit is a hit. Fog of war, and all that. The rudder casualty limited BISMARK's ability to turn, so she ran (North, I think?) in a straight line. This made it easier to finish her off.
With any ship, If you hit the screws, she's DIW (Dead In the Water). Much worse.

201 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:21:40pm

The Czechs voted out the communists in 1989, only twenty years ago. Unlike western governments, the Czech communists never purged Nazi sympathizers or put them on trial. They used the alleged absence of Nazi sympathizers as propaganda proving the superiority of communism to capitalism. The East Germans did the same, ignoring their resident Nazis.

Now that the communists are gone, the Nazi sympathizers, gone to ground for several decades, are re-emerging. Their brazen use of Nazi slogans, i.e., "Final Solution", and their target, the Gypsy ethnic group also targeted by the Nazis, suggest that they view the current global economic crisis as their opportunity to regain power.

202 JHW  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:22:35pm

re: #194 JHW
Ack , wrong link for Wiki Chrysi Avyi

203 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:22:38pm

re: #164 BignJames

Don't watch listen to Hanity any more.....I'm weary of Newt too.

I want to like Newt. He has some good ideas. But his pre-election "public service" appearance with Blinky on global warming really burned me on him.

204 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:22:56pm

re: #191 JCM

LOL, likely, but it kept the Bismarck from making Brest.

(Thinking about all those Sailors, thinking about making Bre-st...)
/ducking

205 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:23:13pm

re: #196 Irenicum

OT/ The sun is setting right now, and there are beautiful pink clouds, like outstretched finger across the pale blue sky. Beautiful!

Vanilla Sky?

206 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:23:22pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Repost:

About the "counter-jihad" going secret- I don't understand it. I thought they were proud of their work and there were no issues with their alliance because their friends are pure as the driven snow. So why the secrecy?

Possibly to keep out dissenters with hidden cameras/recording devices. :)

207 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:23:56pm

re: #197 Thanos

Speaking of OT, I was reading some fundy forums the other night and saw them really mad about a book. You might be interested, it's posted in books in spinoffs above.

I'm not so sure that's off topic, Thanos. Fascists very much want women barefoot and pregnant.

208 Irish Rose  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:24:00pm

re: #187 Charles

Yes it is curious... I suspect that they're trying to hide their involvement.
Keep an eye out, someones' bound to let it slip.

209 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:24:28pm

re: #182 Charles

Charles -

Sean and I have been on and off communicating for the last seven years on the internet.
We STILL have differences. One is about automobiles - Told Sean, 6 Years ago the real truth about "Family-Mobiles" -
Mid-Size SUV's Get 16 MPG - Average.
Full-Size SUV's Get 12-14 MPG Average
Mini-Vans Get 21 MPG Average
Mid-Full Size Sedans and Wagons Get 24 MPG Average

Sean and I have been through this argument several times. His argument is "Safety" - i.e. MASS. By the laws of Physics - all things being equal - HE is RIGHT.
Things are NOT ALWAYS EQUAL - it is called ENGINEERING.

-S-

210 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:24:29pm

re: #51 buzzsawmonkey

She was sending her daughters to Ramaz, no less.

211 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:24:36pm

re: #194 JHW

Golden Dawn symbols and flags

wiki Chrysi Avyi, or Golden Dawn

Thanks- I was about to look it up.

212 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:25:11pm

re: #169 Jim in Virginia

Exactly. When did the "Bohemians" get to Bohemia?
Would the Indians want the Romanys back?

Where would the Romanies go in India? What about those who've picked up genes from people along the way?

It makes no sense.

213 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:26:21pm

re: #191 JCM

LOL, likely, but it kept the Bismarck from making Brest.

I like this topic, but someone should contact avanti if they know how. If we're talking naval gun actions, I want the member of our forum who serves on a big gun ship in on it.

214 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:26:30pm

Dammit, I said I wouldn't do that again. But I went over to AS to see her calling a prominent New York rabbi "jewicidal" and a "kapo".

I pity that woman's children.

215 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:26:39pm

re: #178 Sharmuta

It's historically a fascist tactic.

Thing is, the Jews didn't riot when they were attacked.

216 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:26:41pm

re: #197 Thanos

Speaking of OT, I was reading some fundy forums the other night and saw them really mad about a book. You might be interested, it's posted in books in spinoffs above.

Interesting. I just ordered the Kindle version.

Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement.

217 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:27:10pm

re: #214 Cato the Elder

Dammit, I said I wouldn't do that again. But I went over to AS to see her calling a prominent New York rabbi "jewicidal" and a "kapo".

I pity that woman's children.

She's a lot of nerve!

218 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:27:18pm

re: #200 NelsFree

A hit is a hit. Fog of war, and all that. The rudder casualty limited BISMARK's ability to turn, so she ran (North, I think?) in a straight line. This made it easier to finish her off.
With any ship, If you hit tte screws, she's DIW (Dead In the Water). Much worse.

Actually the Bismarck couldn't stop the turn. It was running in a continuous circle until the Royal Navy caught up and sank it.

219 Jim in Virginia  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:28:13pm

FWIW WIki says the Roma left India c. 500-1000, were in the Balkans by 1400, Germany by 1450.

220 JHW  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:28:43pm

re: #211 Sharmuta

Sadly, it appears they have counterparts in practically every European country.
Spiegel article on Magyar Garda or Hungarian Guard

221 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:29:14pm

re: #213 Dark_Falcon

I like this topic, but someone should contact avanti if they know how. If we're talking naval gun actions, I want the member of our forum who serves on a big gun ship in on it.

I'm reading, but there are better Naval historians already on the thread. One even knew as much about the cruiser I served on. ( The Newport News CA 148) as I did.

222 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:29:15pm

re: #186 Sharmuta

Sorry for the OT- Mandy, have you seen Susan's latest? (Rose- full clip here)

Now- back to the fascists.

I turned off Sinatra for Boyle!

223 nyc redneck  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:29:20pm

re: #193 Jim in Virginia

i like hannity. i listen to him on the radio whenever i can.
i've leaned a lot from him.
i don't like hearing buchanan's voice on his show. i can feel the weasely nature of that guy.
but hannity raises so much money for a college fund for children of our fallen troops. he walls the walk w/ the freedom concerts he pulls together.
especially on memorial day, that is a nice thing to take note of.

224 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:29:51pm

re: #213 Dark_Falcon

I like this topic, but someone should contact avanti if they know how. If we're talking naval gun actions, I want the member of our forum who serves on a big gun ship in on it.

He was on the USS Newport News. 9 8" automatic guns with cased ammo. No need to handle powder bags. She could put out 180 8" rounds per minute.

225 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:29:58pm

The site for "Holger Danske" listed at GoV is none other than "europenews" which has been known to rip off other bloggers, or reprint articles from bloggers ripping off other bloggers. It's nothing more than a fascist clearing house.

226 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:30:13pm

re: #201 quickjustice

The Czechs voted out the communists in 1989, only twenty years ago. Unlike western governments, the Czech communists never purged Nazi sympathizers or put them on trial. They used the alleged absence of Nazi sympathizers as propaganda proving the superiority of communism to capitalism. The East Germans did the same, ignoring their resident Nazis.

Now that the communists are gone, the Nazi sympathizers, gone to ground for several decades, are re-emerging. Their brazen use of Nazi slogans, i.e., "Final Solution", and their target, the Gypsy ethnic group also targeted by the Nazis, suggest that they view the current global economic crisis as their opportunity to regain power.

It wasn't only in the East Block. The Nazi's were floating around under the surface in West Germany when I was there in the mid - late 70's.

227 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:30:48pm

re: #199 Thanos

Yep, that's the one.

Yeah, and this Byzantine Imperial Flag looks familiar as well....

228 ArmyWife  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:31:07pm

Good night, guys. I'm going to go read some decorating magazines for inspiration for the new abode (which I move in June 1 with nary a piece of furniture except my queen size aerobed!). My real estate agent asked that we keep the furniture at the Maryland house as long as we can stand it. I wonder how long it will take before I break down and call the moving company...

229 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:31:17pm

re: #213 Dark_Falcon

I like this topic, but someone should contact avanti if they know how.

Point a welding torch at a Studebaker?
Avanti runs up, "NOOOOO!"
/h

230 Jim in Virginia  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:31:38pm

re: #216 Charles

Interesting. I just ordered the Kindle version.

Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement.

From the Amazon review

a little-known movement among Christian evangelicals that rejects birth control and encourages couples to have as many children as possible

A Jewish friend tells me that some ultra Orthodox groups also encourage large families.
Winning through procreation?

231 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:32:19pm

re: #61 Sharmuta

She called him a "kapo".

Sharm,

I am just flummoxed. He is a leader of the Jewish community in NY, and it is not just Orthodox Jews who look upon him as a leader. She is not Orthodox, BTW.

232 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:32:57pm

re: #230 Jim in Virginia

A Jewish friend tells me that some ultra Orthodox groups also encourage large families.
Winning through procreation?

It does work. That's one thing Mark Steyn gets right.

233 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:33:28pm

re: #186 Sharmuta

Sorry for the OT- Mandy, have you seen Susan's latest? (Rose- full clip here)

Now- back to the fascists.

The make-over is great but, best of all, the real Boyle is still there.

234 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:33:39pm

OT, just read this. It floored me.

Colin Powell said, "Rush will not get his wish and Mr. Cheney was misinformed. I am still a Republican," Powell said, noting that he "voted solidly for Republican candidates" for president for 20 years, spent 10 years of his life serving in Republican administrations and spoke at two GOP conventions.

Colin Powell said the reason he endorsed Barack Obama for president last fall -- a decision that prompted a wave of conservative discontent with Powell -- was he believed Obama was "best-qualified" to lead.

nap time, can't cope, or donuts.........mmmmmmmmmmm.........

235 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:34:25pm

re: #218 Soona'

Actually the Bismarck couldn't stop the turn. It was running in a continuous circle until the Royal Navy caught up and sank it.

Thank you for the info and clarification. A circular pattern was best defense for gunnery and aerial attack solutions.

236 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:34:42pm

re: #224 JCM

He was on the USS Newport News. 9 8" automatic guns with cased ammo. No need to handle powder bags. She could put out 180 8" rounds per minute.

That's a lot of boom.

237 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:34:46pm

re: #216 Charles

Charles -

I am Jewish - our women have been prominent since at least the days of the Judge Devorah (Debra) . That is all.

-S-

238 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:34:46pm

re: #216 Charles

Interesting. I just ordered the Kindle version.

Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement.

My freind just got a Kindle and was bragging she could get on the Internet while we were heading up RT 95 to Atlantic City. I called BS on her and told her to get on LGF for me and she said she could for $1.95 a month after a quick search.
How the hell can it do that ? Internet access, that is.

239 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:34:48pm

re: #221 avanti

I'm reading, but there are better Naval historians already on the thread. One even knew as much about the cruiser I served on. ( The Newport News CA 148) as I did.

Friday night went by the a local drive in where everyone shows up with their hot rods and restored cars.

One of these was there.

240 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:34:52pm

re: #231 NY Nana

Sharm,

I am just flummoxed. He is a leader of the Jewish community in NY, and it is not just Orthodox Jews who look upon him as a leader. She is not Orthodox, BTW.

Nana- she just doesn't think. If he came out speaking the way she wants, his synagogue would be attacked for sure. She sees no value in diplomacy.

241 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:34:56pm

re: #212 MandyManners

A former American girlfriend of mine divorced a gypsy man she met in Texas. We have gypsies here, but they're not a prominent as in Europe. According to her, the gypsies do operate as a tribe, nomadic, living together, and traveling in groups. They do have certain skills, doing repairs on household items, automobiles, and tinkering. She said that the stereotype that they are thieves is true. She was blonde-haired and blue-eyed. Gypsies are dark-complected, with black or brown eyes. Her husband regularly beat her. The marriage ended when her mother-in-law essentially forced her out of the tribe, and her husband did nothing to protect her from his mother.

242 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:35:46pm

re: #229 NelsFree

Point a welding torch at a Studebaker?
Avanti runs up, "NOOOOO!"
/h

If it was a Avanti, the fiberglass would catch fire, a bad thing indeed.

243 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:35:48pm

re: #236 Soona'

That's a lot of boom.

I like lots of BOOM!

244 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:35:49pm

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

Actually, the fatal torpedoes were fired by the heavy cruiser HMS Dorsetshire.

/not before they thoroughly turned her into a burning hulk

245 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:35:59pm

re: #231 NY Nana

[...] She is not Orthodox, BTW. [...]

Is there a single synagogue outside the Baruch Goldstein Memorial Sheol that would want to claim her?

246 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:36:03pm

re: #224 JCM

He was on the USS Newport News. 9 8" automatic guns with cased ammo. No need to handle powder bags. She could put out 180 8" rounds per minute.

Newport News was 3rd ship of the Des Moines class. They were actually designed to overcome the slow rate of fire of older 8-inch guns. In addition to the 8-inch guns, they also mounted 5-inch DP guns and 3-inch AA guns.

247 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:36:19pm

re: #216 Charles

Interesting. I just ordered the Kindle version.

Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement.

Eh. It's pretty clear to me what that book -- and Kathryn Joyce -- are all about.

248 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:36:44pm

re: #144 Zimriel

Which reminds me...

249 Bloodnok  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:37:21pm

re: #239 JCM

Friday night went by the a local drive in where everyone shows up with their hot rods and restored cars.

One of these was there.

That is one weird looking truck. But it is strangely cool.

250 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:38:17pm

re: #238 avanti

My freind just got a Kindle and was bragging she could get on the Internet while we were heading up RT 95 to Atlantic City. I called BS on her and told her to get on LGF for me and she said she could for $1.95 a month after a quick search.
How the hell can it do that ? Internet access, that is.

3G wireless network. Same as internet on a mobile phone. High cost of unit covers Amazon's networking charges.

251 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:38:19pm

re: #58 NY Nana

The more I read about her, the more I suspect this is her underlying problem.

I do not say this lightly.

252 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:38:21pm

re: #244 Killian Bundy

/not before they thoroughly turned her into a burning hulk

Agreed.re: #239 JCM

Friday night went by the a local drive in where everyone shows up with their hot rods and restored cars.

One of these was there.

Nice art-deco lines on that one.

253 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:38:27pm

re: #238 avanti

My freind just got a Kindle and was bragging she could get on the Internet while we were heading up RT 95 to Atlantic City. I called BS on her and told her to get on LGF for me and she said she could for $1.95 a month after a quick search.
How the hell can it do that ? Internet access, that is.

Speaking of which more lizards need to get out to the kindle store and write some better reviews for LGF. Reine wrote one, but the stalker sites outnumber her one review. I would write one, but my real name is tied to my acct there...

254 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:38:27pm

re: #238 avanti

My freind just got a Kindle and was bragging she could get on the Internet while we were heading up RT 95 to Atlantic City. I called BS on her and told her to get on LGF for me and she said she could for $1.95 a month after a quick search.
How the hell can it do that ? Internet access, that is.

The Kindle includes a text-only browser, probably derived from the Linux version of Linx. It's not the best way to read LGF, but it sorta works.

It's at: Menu->Experimental->Basic Web

255 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:38:30pm

re: #177 reine.de.tout

(gentile is not genital)


Sage advice.

256 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:38:39pm

re: #249 Bloodnok

That is one weird looking truck. But it is strangely cool.

I like the old COEs (Cab Over Engine).

257 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:39:20pm

re: #247 Cognito

Eh. It's pretty clear to me what that book -- and Kathryn Joyce -- are all about.

What is that supposed to mean?

258 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:39:49pm

re: #236 Soona'

That's a lot of boom.

We could put way more ordnance on a target per minute then even the New Jersey.

259 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:41:18pm

re: #241 quickjustice

A former American girlfriend of mine divorced a gypsy man she met in Texas. We have gypsies here, but they're not a prominent as in Europe. According to her, the gypsies do operate as a tribe, nomadic, living together, and traveling in groups. They do have certain skills, doing repairs on household items, automobiles, and tinkering. She said that the stereotype that they are thieves is true. She was blonde-haired and blue-eyed. Gypsies are dark-complected, with black or brown eyes. Her husband regularly beat her. The marriage ended when her mother-in-law essentially forced her out of the tribe, and her husband did nothing to protect her from his mother.

When I was a kid I remember Gypsy alerts in the town newspaper. Well founded too. They were usually a bunch of con and scam artists.

260 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:41:26pm

re: #250 Cato the Elder

3G wireless network. Same as internet on a mobile phone. High cost of unit covers Amazon's networking charges.

Crap, you could have told me that before I lost a dinner bet :) So you can get most of the internet anywhere, not just Amazon ?

261 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:41:40pm

re: #247 Cognito

Eh. It's pretty clear to me what that book -- and Kathryn Joyce -- are all about.

The book is probably biased Cog, but it may still contain useful info. Charles reads creationist material often enough that he knows where to find additional sources if something seems fishy.

262 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:41:42pm

re: #208 Irish Rose

That's what I find so strange. Geert, VB and Pamela are all attention whores but I suppose you could convince them to be quiet be quiet I suppose. But how do you explain to a room of bloggers to not take pictures or write about the summit? I think it would be very difficult to explain it and then get people to abide.

263 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:41:46pm

re: #256 JCM

Looks related to the Herkimer Battle Jitney:
[Link: www.imcdb.org...]

264 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:41:56pm

re: #234 IslandLibertarian

Frankly, it was a tough call: Obama was youthful, smart and stunningly inexperienced. McCain was old, tired, cancerous and very experienced. Ho to way that? Especially, if many of Powells friend's and family were pulling him in one direction. He was also very embittered against Rumsfeld and felt he was used by Bush & Cheney.

265 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:42:15pm

re: #145 Sharmuta

How come that does not surprise me. Which reminds of a joke: What do you do when two anti-Semites walk into a room? Leave the room and look for the nearest shit removal service.

266 Ojoe  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:42:39pm

re: #218 Soona'

With torpedos launched from biplanes IIRC.

267 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:42:53pm

re: #262 Killgore Trout

That's what I find so strange. Geert, VB and Pamela are all attention whores but I suppose you could convince them to be quiet be quiet I suppose. But how do you explain to a room of bloggers to not take pictures or write about the summit? I think it would be very difficult to explain it and then get people to abide.

There is definitely something odd about the silence.

268 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:43:26pm

re: #266 Ojoe

With torpedos launched from biplanes IIRC.


Does it really matter what the sexual orientation of the aircraft was?!?!?!

////

269 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:44:11pm

re: #268 sattv4u2

Does it really matter what the sexual orientation of the aircraft was?!?!?!

////

SMACK!

270 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:44:29pm

re: #259 Soona'

When I was a kid I remember Gypsy alerts in the town newspaper. Well founded too. They were usually a bunch of con and scam artists.

I don't think those are Roma. They're also called "Irish Travelers"

271 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:44:42pm

re: #251 Kenneth

A friend of mine 's wife was borderline. The marriage did not end happily.

272 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:44:46pm

re: #251 Kenneth

The more I read about her, the more I suspect this is her underlying problem.

I do not say this lightly.

Compounded by this, I believe.

273 freetoken  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:44:52pm

Surprised to find the science video thread (several flights down) was still alive.... Something tells me these arguments could go on for quite a while...

/heh, but I'm off to the gym...

274 David Simon  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:44:54pm

Ex-Gitmo and ex-Bagram detainee: "They were beating me!"

CNN producers: "Let's do a story."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

/Spit.

275 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:44:56pm

re: #267 Sharmuta

There is definitely something odd about the silence.

That will change after the Euro elections are over. They don't want to start a flap during those.

276 ConservatismNow!  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:45:13pm

re: #258 avanti

Hey avanti, I got back from a classic street rod show this afternoon. Saw a couple of Studebakers and it reminded me of you. I met the guy who owns a world speed record...set in a '55 Studebaker no less!

277 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:04pm

re: #268 sattv4u2

Does it really matter what the sexual orientation of the aircraft was?!?!?!

////

The Swordfish was made by Fairey.....

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

278 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:07pm

re: #267 Sharmuta

There is definitely something odd about the silence.

Not odd at all. They have finally realized the attention they have been getting from people like Charles has not been helping them.So they have switched to the mode they grew up in: secret underground meetings. The old school Fascists among them are quite familiar with that style.

279 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:20pm

re: #275 Thanos

That will change after the Euro elections are over. They don't want to start a flap during those.

I hadn't considered that.

280 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:34pm

re: #272 Cato the Elder

Self-medicating!

281 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:35pm

re: #249 Bloodnok

That is one weird looking truck. But it is strangely cool.

That's a one off street rod custom, here's a real Studebaker COE (cab over engine truck)

COE.

282 vxbush  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:35pm

re: #254 Charles

The Kindle includes a text-only browser, probably derived from the Linux version of Linx. It's not the best way to read LGF, but it sorta works.

It's at: Menu->Experimental->Basic Web

I think you mean lynx?

283 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:41pm

re: #267 Sharmuta

I'd guess the gathering was small enough to make it very exciting to be privy to the secrets in the room, and keeping silent about what was said would add to their sense of power.

284 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:52pm

re: #271 quickjustice

I know all about that.

285 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:46:57pm

re: #267 Sharmuta

Something's going on and none of it really makes sense. I don't think you could get a room full of bloggers to stay quiet. But what's the point of holding a counterjihad conference of bloggers who only post a couple time a month and some of them don't even write about Islamic terrorism?

286 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:47:01pm

re: #234 IslandLibertarian

OT, just read this. It floored me.

Colin Powell said, "Rush will not get his wish and Mr. Cheney was misinformed. I am still a Republican," Powell said, noting that he "voted solidly for Republican candidates" for president for 20 years, spent 10 years of his life serving in Republican administrations and spoke at two GOP conventions.

Colin Powell said the reason he endorsed Barack Obama for president last fall -- a decision that prompted a wave of conservative discontent with Powell -- was he believed Obama was "best-qualified" to lead.

nap time, can't cope, or donuts.........mmmmmmmmmmm.........

Island Libertarian -

General Powell no DOUBT did what he said he did. He IS, bottom line a man of truth and honor.
As to believing that Pres. Obama was the "best man to lead" - I understand HIM WELL. In 2000, I voted for Gore-Lieberman, for three (3) reasons.
1. Gore seemed to be more willing to commit the US to "nation building" - believe me, when nations ARE BROKEN - they need rebuilding.
2. Remember "Budget Surpluses?" - Gore's numbers looked more realistic to me than GWB's.
3. TOTALLY TRIBAL - Sen. Lieberman, TO ME, was ME, writ large. Former VP Cheney WAS NOT.

I understand the "Tribal Vote" of General Powell Totally - I did it myself in the 2000 Election.

That is all.

-S-

287 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:47:03pm

re: #230 Jim in Virginia

A Jewish friend tells me that some ultra Orthodox groups also encourage large families.
Winning through procreation?

Many Muslims have stated their intent to dominate Europe through demographics.
Snopes says it's not really the case:
[Link: www.snopes.com...]

Wiki generally agrees:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

However some Muslim authorities have stated that Islam will dominate by various means, including demographics, in the 21st Century. Still looking for links for that.

288 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:47:24pm

re: #272 Cato the Elder

Compounded by this, I believe.

Very common co-morbidity.

289 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:47:46pm

re: #260 avanti

Crap, you could have told me that before I lost a dinner bet :) So you can get most of the internet anywhere, not just Amazon ?

I think it's more like selected blogs on a primitive browser. You know, not active surfing, just reading your faves. I just got my Kindle, so haven't tried it all out yet - but why would I want to web surf in black and white when my iPhone does it all in color on mini-Safari?

I do have daily delivery of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, now. That's way cool.

290 sattv4u2  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:48:12pm

re: #257 Sharmuta

What is that supposed to mean?

An attempt at sounding erudite but actually being vague!

291 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:48:22pm

re: #278 Kenneth

I just mean it's odd in that they're alway so proud of their counter-jihad credentials, why aren't they taking more pride in this?

I understand that they've been damaged by LGF- so their pride and secrecy are at odds with each other.

292 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:48:30pm

re: #288 Kenneth

Very common co-morbidity.

Indeed.

293 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:48:32pm

Czech Neo-Nazis' attempts to attack Roma Gypsies thwarted

17.11.2008 Litvinov, Ustecky Kraj, Czech Republic Apparently, about 500 right-wing extremists tried to go to an area inhabited by Roma (Gypsy) to attack them in the northern Czech town of Litvinov, but were prevented by about 1000 police/riot squad personnel. Riot police have waged a bloody battle with far-right protesters who hurled petrol bombs and stones. Some of the rioters wore masks. In the ensuing riot, lots of law enforcement personnel and 'right-wingers' were injured. The violence broke out at a march by the far-right WORKERS' PARTY, a public holiday in the Czech Republic marking both the 1939 Nazi clamp down on Czechoslovak universities and the 1989 student protest that sparked the Velvet Revolution which ended decades of communist rule in the central European country...

294 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:48:56pm

re: #281 avanti

That's a one off street rod custom, here's a real Studebaker COE (cab over engine truck)

COE.

The one I saw was a flat bed, and was customized also.

295 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:48:56pm

re: #287 NelsFree

Nels Free -

Procreation wins EVERY TIME in a Democracy. Think that ONE over.

-S-

296 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:49:12pm

re: #279 Sharmuta

I hadn't considered that.

Yes right now Geert's their lightning rod drawing the attention, and they want to keep it that way until after elections since he's pretty much a shoo-in (shoe?)

297 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:49:25pm

re: #266 Ojoe

With torpedos launched from biplanes IIRC.

H.M.S Dorsetshire

Sixty Four years to this very day the pride of Adolf Hitlers navy went to the bottom of the North Atlantic and my memory goes back to how I became involved,my ship was sailing from Capetown escorting a large convoy bound for England with a destroyer escort and an armed merchant Cruiser My ship H.M.S Dorsetshire a county class cruiser carrying eight 8" guns in charge.

Two days out and ploughing through heavy seas we received a signal to proceed at all speed to an area in the north atlantic were it was reported that the German battle ship Bismark had been sighted so off we went leaving the Armed merchant cruiser in charge of the convoy.
All through the night with decks awash at times we pushed on and just before dawn a service was held below decks and prayers were said as the estimated time of our arrival drew near,and every man was closed up at his action station the look-outs peering into the distance were the first to see the action wich had just started.

We closed in to our firing range and a shell from the Bismark went over our heads making a noise like a jet plane but we commenced firing our 8" guns and in the next two hours we fired 240 8" shells at the Bismark and I could see ours and the Battle Ship H.M.S. Rodney's shells smashing into her super-structure and when she was nothing more than a burning wreck we were ordered in to finish her off and as we closed to fire three torpedoes I could see scores of men jumping overboard into what was a very rough sea.

We lay off after firing three torpedoes and watched her turn slowly over and bottom up showing her newly painted under side and scores of men still scrambling about on her steel plates as she slowly sank beneath the waves the pride of the German Navy was no more and the Royal Navy had avenged the sinking of H.M.S.Hood.

/The Sinking of the Bismark 27th May 1941

298 shiplord kirel  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:49:52pm

re: #268 sattv4u2

Does it really matter what the sexual orientation of the aircraft was?!?!?!

////

As a point of interest, the Swordfish was a product of the Fairey Aviation Company.
The Swordfish was amazingly successful during the war, considering its fundamentally obsolete design and low performance. The highlight was undoubtedly the attack on the Italian fleet in Taranto in 1940, the results of which were carefully analyzed by Japanese planners half a world away.

299 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:50:13pm

re: #291 Sharmuta

They have their circle. Neo-Nazi's have been meeting in small quite groups for years, they get off on their "secret" style. The big public exposure of the "counter-jihad" forums was the anomaly. This is a good sign.

300 itellu3times  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:50:22pm

re: #230 Jim in Virginia

A Jewish friend tells me that some ultra Orthodox groups also encourage large families.
Winning through procreation?

More like surviving thru procreation, I think. Genesis does say be fruitful and multiply, but I don't think big families were a priority of orthodox Jews a hundred years ago.

301 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:50:24pm

re: #285 Killgore Trout

Something's going on and none of it really makes sense. I don't think you could get a room full of bloggers to stay quiet. But what's the point of holding a counterjihad conference of bloggers who only post a couple time a month and some of them don't even write about Islamic terrorism?

They each have several "alt" identities, and more than one blog.

302 JHW  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:50:24pm

From the Telegraph, UK.
Feminine face of Hungary's far Right Jobbit movement seeks MEPs seat
Wiki, Movement for a Better Hungary
From Politics.HU May 18 Public Support for Magyar Garda Grows

there is clearly a greater openness in Hungary today towards extremist movements. Its survey found that many people are increasing under the pressures of poverty and job losses resulting from the financial and economic crisis.

People are also worried about crime and violence. Whereas they do not want to take any greater responsibility for their self-defence, they do want greater protection.

Jobbik registered the Magyar Garda in June 2007 as a "cultural organisation" to "prepare youth spiritually and physically for extraordinary situations when it might be necessary to mobilise the people."

The Guard, which has recruited well over 1,000 militiamen, has staged several marches to intimidate the Roma community in several localities. Its activity has drawn condemnation both in Hungary and abroad, drawing harsh protests from the parliamentary parties, NGOs and minority organisations alike.

Jobbik, however, officially dissociates itself from attacks against the Roma and recently described the Holocaust as a "tragic event", though it does not support an initiative to bring a constitutional amendment banning Holocaust denial.

303 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:50:38pm

re: #285 Killgore Trout

Something's going on and none of it really makes sense. I don't think you could get a room full of bloggers to stay quiet. But what's the point of holding a counterjihad conference of bloggers who only post a couple time a month and some of them don't even write about Islamic terrorism?

I think Thanos is on to something with the upcoming EU elections. Whatever politicians might have been there, they don't want to hurt their chances at winning.

304 Etaoin Shrdlu  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:50:45pm

re: #295 Dr. Shalit

Procreation wins EVERY TIME in a Democracy. Think that ONE over.


People can't change their genes, but they can change their minds.

305 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:50:56pm

HUNGARIAN NEO-NAZI LEAD WAR ON GYPSIES

In Hungary, fascist groups are targeting Roma gypsies, but the government seems to turn a blind eye on the problem of ethnic minorities, and offers no protection for them.

306 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:50:57pm

re: #216 Charles

Interesting. I just ordered the Kindle version.

Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement.

There's a long review by an ex-member on that page.

307 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:51:26pm

re: #272 Cato the Elder

Compounded by this, I believe.

A super delicious body?

308 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:51:36pm

Cognito is a creationist, which may come as a surprise to some of you.

309 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:51:55pm

re: #290 sattv4u2

An attempt at sounding erudite but actually being vague!

I'm getting the impression cog is a fundamentalist.

310 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:52:22pm

re: #103 Alouette

Pam linked to my blog post about the Muslima who prayed at the Riverdale Jewish Center.

I don't know what kind of comments that generated over at her site, because I didn't feel like reading that crap. She didn't even give me a trackback link, the bitch.

Anyway, I'm going to a cheesecake party. A bunch of ladies will share recipes, a local caterer will give a demo, and there will be a dessert table!

See you guys later!

Taste testing for Shavuot? ;) Daughter is giving a cooking class to my grandson's Gan. They will make a massive mess dairy kugel, (my recipe) and she wants to try to make some pocket-type things for class where they roll & cut the dough. She is a fantastic cook and baker.

She always takes photos at Gan, but sadly, this time I don't think she will be able to.

Yes, Pam is a bitch. I feel so badly for her 4 daughters, who I had said before are being used by her. I would bet that a number of the mothers of their classmates talk about her in front of their daughters.

To not give you a hat tip? I guess we should not be surprised.

Don't forget to bring us all some cheesecake! The ones I make the most are chocolate and also a chocolate vanilla one.

311 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:53:13pm

re: #308 Charles

Cognito is a creationist, which may come as a surprise to some of you.

Rich, that.

And beneath you.

312 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:53:37pm

re: #303 Sharmuta

I think Thanos is on to something with the upcoming EU elections. Whatever politicians might have been there, they don't want to hurt their chances at winning.

Remember: there are two types of events for these groups - the public scenery chewing grandstanding type, and the quiet basement strategy sessions.

313 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:54:17pm

Good evening Lizards! Just got back from the track..Great Indy 500 today..
You will not fucking believe who i met today..
So about 11am this morning..Me and my buddy Paulie are walking around the track and right around Gasoline alley we see this TV Camera and guy interviewing these old gray haired dude..I go Paulie..Who the hell is that? I dunno..Well I said let's check this out..( he wanted another beer)
Turns out the man was Thomas Stafford..Commander of Apollo 10..
In his interview he said the Apollo 10 coming back from the moon was faster than any craft has ever flown..Like 28,800 MPH or something like that...
After his interview I shook his hand..I fucking shook the hand of Commander Stafford! The fastest human of all time! Too cool!

314 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:54:23pm

re: #311 Cognito

Rich, that.

And beneath you.

You mean, you aren't a creationist? So how do you explain some of your comments on the subject?

315 David Simon  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:54:29pm

re: #286 Dr. Shalit

TOTALLY TRIBAL - Sen. Lieberman, TO ME, was ME, writ large.

Meaning you're far-left on just about every issue other than the war against Islamists?

316 itellu3times  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:54:57pm

re: #312 Thanos

Remember: there are two types of events for these groups - the public scenery chewing grandstanding type, and the quiet basement strategy sessions.

And (3) the type that includes whips and mazola oil?

317 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:55:01pm

re: #268 sattv4u2

Does it really matter what the sexual orientation of the aircraft was?!?!?!

////

Only when they went into a dive.
/

318 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:55:18pm

re: #314 Charles

You mean, you aren't a creationist? So how do you explain some of your comments on the subject?

Which comments need explaining, exactly?

319 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:55:34pm

re: #311 Cognito

Poor manners is beneath you.

320 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:55:56pm

re: #317 NelsFree

Only when they went into a dive.
/

Then they pull out......

*ducks*

321 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:56:19pm

re: #251 Kenneth

Kenneth,

You may very well be right.

Even though she is so full of herself, I also think that she is very insecure, and thus is an attention whore.

322 ConservatismNow!  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:56:27pm

re: #313 HoosierHoops

b-b-b-but the moon landing was faked!
///

323 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:56:44pm

re: #281 avanti

That's a one off street rod custom, here's a real Studebaker COE (cab over engine truck)

COE.

Looks good. Do those trucks ever get used for serving soda at events?

324 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:56:53pm

re: #316 itellu3times

And (3) the type that includes whips and mazola oil?

They are more modern than that now, they use glitter oil.

325 Jim in Virginia  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:57:13pm

re: #322 ConservatismNow! Apollo 10 didn't land.

326 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:57:18pm

*grabs bowl of popcorn*

327 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:57:28pm

re: #295 Dr. Shalit

Nels Free -

Procreation wins EVERY TIME in a Democracy. Think that ONE over.

-S-

It's in my Genes, Shalit
/h

328 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:57:36pm

re: #318 Cognito

Which comments need explaining, exactly?

OK, go ahead and play dumb. I've got better things to do than search for comments that you know very well you posted.

329 ConservatismNow!  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:58:09pm

re: #325 Jim in Virginia

Apollo 10 didn't land.

I realized that right after I posted. /facepalm

330 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:58:18pm

re: #328 Charles

OK, go ahead and play dumb. I've got better things to do than search for comments that you know very well you posted.

Sorry, but no. I've not posted anything such thing.

331 Jim in Virginia  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:58:44pm

Amazing how these threads morph.
This one didn't get hijacked it just ....


evolved....

332 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:58:52pm

re: #325 Jim in Virginia

Apollo 10 didn't land.


Never?

333 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:58:52pm

re: #307 Soona'

A super delicious body?

Having talked to people who've seen her up close, I'd have to say, umm, no?

334 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:59:42pm

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Cool!

335 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 6:59:48pm

re: #241 quickjustice

A former American girlfriend of mine divorced a gypsy man she met in Texas. We have gypsies here, but they're not a prominent as in Europe. According to her, the gypsies do operate as a tribe, nomadic, living together, and traveling in groups. They do have certain skills, doing repairs on household items, automobiles, and tinkering. She said that the stereotype that they are thieves is true. She was blonde-haired and blue-eyed. Gypsies are dark-complected, with black or brown eyes. Her husband regularly beat her. The marriage ended when her mother-in-law essentially forced her out of the tribe, and her husband did nothing to protect her from his mother.

Except for the bit about "the tribe", the bolded part sounds like a lot of non-Romany families to me.

Now, I'll just shut my mouth because I'm of that on my father's side. (Ain't America great? A descendant of Gypsies wound up marring a descendant of aristocratic French and British lines, as well as a dash of "Carribbean entrepreneurs".)

336 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:00:07pm

re: #328 Charles

Here's one, Charles.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

337 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:00:25pm

UNCLE.

338 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:00:44pm
339 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:00:44pm

Far right is the centre of attention
Published Date: 25 May 2009
By MATTHEW DAY IN WARSAW

CLAD in black trousers, waistcoats and caps, the Hungarian Guard stand to attention and pledge to defend their nation.
Then, in scenes reminiscent of Europe's dark past, they march with flags and banners flying, hoping to be the trailblazers of a Hungarian nation reborn.

The guard, the uniformed wing of the small political party Jobbik, are also the vanguard of a resurgent and confident extreme right wing, aiming to make gains across central Europe in next month's European parliament elections.

Jobbik – short for Movement for a Better Hungary – aims to scoop 10 per cent of the national vote as polls across the continent open from 4-7 June.

In the Czech Republic, the National Party shocked the country when it offered a "final solution to the gypsy problem", while its larger counterpart, the Workers' Party, has few qualms about sending its "security brigades" into neighbourhoods dominated by gypsies, or Roma – a group which is often a target.

Ondrej Cakl, an expert on the Czech far right, said a few years ago, Workers' Party meetings attracted only a couple of dozen, but now they attract hundreds.

In Romania, one party urges "Christians and patriots to rid the country of thieves". In Austria, the powerful Freedom Party, led by Heinz-Christian Strache, has high expectations from June's vote: last September, it took 17.5 per cent of the vote in national elections, and experts predict it will make significant gains on the 6 per cent it won in the last European elections.

Across the continent, the far right could well win more than the 25 seats it needs to form a bloc in the European Parliament and secure about £1 million in annual funding...

340 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:01:00pm

re: #317 NelsFree

Only when they went into a dive.
/


It gets worse ... they were Fairey Swordfish.

341 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:01:03pm
342 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:01:07pm

re: #318 Cognito

Which comments need explaining, exactly?

Be careful, Cognito. Don't make this happen again. Don't push at Charles, because I like having you here.

343 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:01:11pm

re: #336 Sharmuta

Here's one, Charles.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Oh, bravo, Sharmuta.

Perhaps you'll do us the favor of explaining what that comment means, and how exactly it's 'creationist.'

344 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:01:14pm

Obama is now outsourcing torture:


WASHINGTON — The United States is now relying heavily on foreign intelligence services to capture, interrogate and detain all but the highest-level terrorist suspects seized outside the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan, according to current and former American government officials.

The change represents a significant loosening of the reins for the United States, which has worked closely with allies to combat violent extremism since the 9/11 attacks but is now pushing that cooperation to new limits.

In the past 10 months, for example, about a half-dozen midlevel financiers and logistics experts working with Al Qaeda have been captured and are being held by intelligence services in four Middle Eastern countries after the United States provided information that led to their arrests by local security services, a former American counterterrorism official said.

What do you suppose those 10 AQ punks are doing? Trading humous recipes with the Egyptians? Playing backgammon with the Jordanians?

You all knew this was going to happen, right?

345 Jim in Virginia  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:01:36pm

re: #335 MandyManners

a dash of "Carribbean entrepreneurs".)

Pirates?
Arrrrh, matey!

346 JHW  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:01:42pm

Regarding EU elections, this , from France 24 on some of these parties gaining seats, specifically the one I mentioned.

Crisis boosts far-right Jobbik party before EU elections
Boosted by political instability and a recession that has badly hit the country, polls show that the Hungarian far-right party Jobbik can reach the five percent required at the European elections to enter the EU Parliament.


France 24 article

347 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:01:58pm

re: #320 JCM

Then they pull out......

*ducks*

They were so slow, you could see them coming for a long time.

348 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:02:07pm

re: #332 BignJames

Never?

It was faked, didn't need to....

/////

349 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:02:08pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

Be careful, Cognito. Don't make this happen again. Don't push at Charles, because I like having you here.

Likewise, I enjoy being here. And I don't believe I've pushed anyone, even slightly.

350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:02:44pm

re: #343 Cognito

Hey Cog! I hope someone can explain it! I read it three times, still have no idea what you meant.

351 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:02:49pm

re: #325 Jim in Virginia

Apollo 10 didn't land.

Yeah, that's what they tell you.

/

352 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:03:14pm

re: #335 MandyManners

I report, you decide. If you're part gypsy, and there was a successful union of gypsy with non-gypsy in your family, more power to you.

My ex-girlfriend communicated to me that her ex-mother-in-law hated her because she wasn't gypsy. Whether that's true or not, I can't say.

353 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:03:43pm

re: #304 Etaoin Shrdlu

People can't change their genes, but they can change their minds.

E-S -

In the present state of affairs you are correct to the extent that one cannot pick their parents.
Now - to put the point CLOSE and PERSONAL - who would YOU prefer as Next Door Neighbors, knowing NOTHING ELSE. Mr. & Mrs. Goldberg, or Stephanopoulos for that matter, or Mr. and Mrs. abu-Zubaida? Pray Tell!

-S-

354 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:03:46pm

re: #343 Cognito

You first- I'm still waiting to know what you meant by this:

re: #247 Cognito

Eh. It's pretty clear to me what that book -- and Kathryn Joyce -- are all about.

355 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:03:51pm

re: #332 BignJames

Never?

splashdown

356 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:03:55pm

re: #336 Sharmuta

Here's one, Charles.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I'm gonna' start calling you "quick-draw McGraw".

357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:03:59pm

re: #344 Kenneth

Can you imagine torture over there that is supposed to leave you alive?

Shudder.

358 Jim in Virginia  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:04:27pm

re: #344 Kenneth

What do you suppose those 10 AQ punks are doing? Trading humous recipes with the Egyptians? Playing backgammon with the Jordanians?

Probably getting the alien probe, among other things.

359 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:04:41pm

re: #357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It aint your daddy's waterboarding, that's for sure.

360 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:04:46pm

re: #320 JCM

Then they pull out......

*ducks*

Leaving a big round thing falling...
*covers*
...that explodes on contact!
*becomes invisible*

361 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:04:54pm

re: #354 Sharmuta

Unclear-but-slightly-provocative comment is step one in the Game.

362 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:05:37pm

USS Newport News video...

363 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:05:38pm

re: #356 MandyManners

I'm gonna' start calling you "quick-draw McGraw".

A quick draw doesn't help, if you miss.

364 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:05:42pm

re: #341 Sharmuta

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]


Hi Sharm! Did you see how well Danica drove today? She came in 3rd and ran a rock solid race..She needed a few more horse power..But damn she ran a smart aggressive race...

365 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:06:05pm

re: #340 OldLineTexan

It gets worse ... they were Fairey Swordfish.

The Swordfish did great work against the Bismarck and at Taranto. It's only notable failure was against the German 'Channel Dash' of 1942. The Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, and Prinz Eugen had adequate fighter cover and German BF-109's shot down the attacking Swordfish squadron before they could fire their torpedoes.

366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:06:08pm

re: #359 Kenneth

You gave me a gigantic laugh the other day. Thank you. I don't remember what, but I laughed really hard!

367 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:06:17pm

I see someone brought the entertainment.
Hiya Lizards.

368 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:06:22pm

re: #345 Jim in Virginia

Pirates?
Arrrrh, matey!

Strange but, I don't like rum.

369 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:06:26pm

re: #358 Jim in Virginia

This should be a new thread. The msm is going to hide it. Obama has got to be called on his hypocrisy. Charles, is it thread worthy?

370 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:06:54pm

re: #247 Cognito

Eh. It's pretty clear to me what that book -- and Kathryn Joyce -- are all about.

What did you mean by this Cognito?

371 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:06:59pm

re: #366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You gave me a gigantic laugh the other day. Thank you. I don't remember what, but I laughed really hard!

Funny... my wife has said that too.

372 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:13pm

re: #367 DEZes

I see someone brought the entertainment.
Hiya Lizards.

Hi DeZ!

373 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:25pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

Looks good. Do those trucks ever get used for serving soda at events?

He does give away a few on occasion, but he had to get permission from Coke just to use the logo, not a easy task. Imagine a Studebaker truck in a fatal accident, a smart attorney would go after Coke.
I thought I'd have a issue with a 63 Studebaker cop car that was still fully dressed out. The cops went nuts over the old car, made me promise not to use the lights and siren unless parked and I was good to go.

374 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:27pm

re: #364 HoosierHoops

Hi Sharm! Did you see how well Danica drove today? She came in 3rd and ran a rock solid race..She needed a few more horse power..But damn she ran a smart aggressive race...

I didn't watch, but I'm proud of her.

375 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:27pm

re: #352 quickjustice

Have a great night!

376 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:28pm

re: #330 Cognito

From a previous thread:

Cognito: "Don't be a moron"
Cognito: "I'm not name calling"

Flag's up, Cog, and it ain't the Star-Spangled Banner for you!

377 MJ  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:35pm

Leonard Cohen subject of pro-Palestinian protests:

"...a group of about three dozen pro-Palestinian protesters standing across the street from the theater entrance, calling on the singer to cancel a concert in Israel that is expected to take place in September...


[Link: www.forward.com...]

378 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:48pm

I wouldn't bother trying to track it down folks, Cog's an engineer of enigma, a master of the murky and he reads from the vedda of the vague. It's beyond zen...

379 Jim in Virginia  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:49pm

re: #369 Kenneth
Second that.

380 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:07:56pm

re: #372 HoosierHoops

Hi DeZ!

How the hell are ya Hoops?
were you at the track today?

381 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:08:19pm

So Mandy, do you ever get this overwhelming impulse-- that feels like it's coming straight from your genes-- to uh, steal stuff?

--Ducks and dives--

382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:08:51pm

re: #377 MJ

If he plays it? Hallelujah!

383 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:08:54pm

re: #377 MJ

I saw Cohen in concert last week. Amazing! One of the best concerts I have ever seen. I you have a chance, see him.

384 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:09:05pm

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

Be careful, Cognito. Don't make this happen again. Don't push at Charles, because I like having you here.

That was entertaining. Thanks.

385 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:09:34pm

re: #380 DEZes

How the hell are ya Hoops?
were you at the track today?

Hiya read my 313..I met Thomas Stafford this morning....

386 alexknyc  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:09:50pm

re: #234 IslandLibertarian


Colin Powell said the reason he endorsed Barack Obama for president last fall -- a decision that prompted a wave of conservative discontent with Powell -- was he believed Obama was "best-qualified" to lead.

I call BS.

Powell is free to endorse and vote for whomever he wishes but there's no definition of "qualified" I know of in which Obama would out-do McCain.

387 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:10:04pm

re: #350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Cog! I hope someone can explain it! I read it three times, still have no idea what you meant.

You'd have to read the thread for context -- it all centered around a goofy $64,000 prize for an essay that could disprove the validity of evolution. My point was that picking apart a existent idea isn't nearly so hard as developing your own opposing proof.

And further, that method and origin aren't the same. I've never understood why people try to conflate the two. Evolution should not threaten anyone's faith.

388 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:10:10pm

Mandy's departed. I'll have to try again tomorrow, wearing my flak jacket! ;-)

389 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:10:16pm

re: #344 Kenneth

Obama is now outsourcing torture:

What do you suppose those 10 AQ punks are doing? Trading humous recipes with the Egyptians? Playing backgammon with the Jordanians?

You all knew this was going to happen, right?

Kenneth -

What did you expect? Full U.S. Civil Liberties for Enemy Combatants is a CHIMERA no US Administration "CAN" Allow.
Farming them out - OR - "Double Tapping" them upon capture avoids a lot of Civil Liberties POOP. The ACLU will NEVER sue for the "Wrongful Death" of Muhammad ibn Muhammad. THEY "EARN" NO MONEY THAT WAY. Yes, I SAID IT. And that is all.

-S-

390 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:10:28pm

re: #230 Jim in Virginia

"Winning through procreation?" Yep, that's pretty much the idea. That way you don't have to actually proselytize the heathen. Just out-birth them. I don't think it's a Christian idea, but it has become popular.

391 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:11:08pm

re: #385 HoosierHoops

Hiya read my 313..I met Thomas Stafford this morning....

I am truly jealous.

392 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:11:47pm

this video is from his current tour...

393 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:11:57pm

re: #378 Thanos

I wouldn't bother trying to track it down folks, Cog's an engineer of enigma, a master of the murky and he reads from the vedda of the vague. It's beyond zen...

Nah, no need for enigma or murk or the vague. It's simpler than that. I've got no problem with evolution; knowing that, I can rest easy knowing there's comment afloat that says otherwise.

394 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:12:04pm

re: #383 Kenneth

I like his music when other people do it. Except for "First We Take Manhattan" (really cool) his voice leaves me a little flat. But that is one totally insignificant opinion. He is loved by millions.

He'll probably survive without me.

395 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:12:09pm

Sorry, 'no comment' afloat..

396 MJ  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:12:16pm

re: #383 Kenneth

I saw Cohen in concert last week. Amazing! One of the best concerts I have ever seen. I you have a chance, see him.

Saw him back in Chicago at the Quiet Knight, circa 1974 or there abouts.
Yes, he was great. Small room.

397 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:12:53pm

And 387 should have said 'an existent.'

Sheesh.

398 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:13:03pm

re: #247 Cognito

Eh. It's pretty clear to me what that book -- and Kathryn Joyce -- are all about.

What did you mean by this, Cognito?

399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:13:20pm

re: #397 Cognito

You finally took my writing class.

400 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:13:37pm

re: #353 Dr. Shalit

Shal, let's not go there. No need to start a meltdown, even though my popcorn is in the microwave.
/

401 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:13:39pm

re: #239 JCM

That's one crazy looking Studebaker!

402 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:14:28pm

re: #376 NelsFree

Speaking of faulty comprehension: videlicet.

Need a bigger hook?

403 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:15:27pm

Adnan Oktar's prize is bigger than $64,000.
Just satin'

404 Kenneth  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:15:32pm

re: #396 MJ

Wow! He was pretty cool in '74. This concert was so beautiful, he was so gracious to his musicians and the audience. A huge love in. He played for over 3 hours, no opening act. Nobody does that anymore!

Ok, good night!

405 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:15:36pm

The upshot, Charles, is that it's pretty cruddy to level a charge like that -- some sort of anti-evolution stance -- when it's untrue.

But mostly it's just puzzling. We weren't even discussing the subject.

406 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:16:14pm

re: #403 Killgore Trout

Adnan Oktar's prize is bigger than $64,000.
Just satin'

EEEEEK, now thats a typo.
How ya doing KT?

407 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:16:15pm

Gotta go cook some vittels. BBL.

408 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:16:19pm

re: #391 DEZes

I am truly jealous.

Isn't that cool? I did see Dicky V from a distance..But from like a 100 yards away..
I'm pretty sure I'm going to have a hangover in the morning..We started drinking beer at 10am today..WWWWwwwwwwweeeeeeee!
Had a wonderful time today..Sunburn also..I know it's coming..who cares..

409 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:16:24pm

re: #389 Dr. Shalit

Kenneth -

What did you expect? Full U.S. Civil Liberties for Enemy Combatants is a CHIMERA no US Administration "CAN" Allow.
Farming them out - OR - "Double Tapping" them upon capture avoids a lot of Civil Liberties POOP. The ACLU will NEVER sue for the "Wrongful Death" of Muhammad ibn Muhammad. THEY "EARN" NO MONEY THAT WAY. Yes, I SAID IT. And that is all.

-S-

He's going Clinton mode for new captures ...

410 quickjustice  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:16:26pm

I agree that there's no inherent conflict between evolution (science) and faith (religion). It's only when science claims to be religion, or religion claims to be science, that there's trouble.

What's the difference between a "creationist" and a religious person who believes in the Genesis story ("In the beginning, G-d created Heaven and Earth.")?

411 JHW  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:17:00pm

re: #383 Kenneth

Have you heard of this lady? Anjani..."Blue Alert"

Honolulu-born singer-songwriter Anjani's story is the stuff of great fiction. After playing the New York jazz club circuit for years, she was introduced to celebrated Canadian poet, author, and songwriter Leonard Cohen. Immediately drawn to her talents, he brought her onboard as a keyboardist and vocalist, where she provided some background work on a number of his CDs. After finding a few lines of Cohen's handwritten lyrics lying on his desk one day (specifically "there's perfume burning in the air/bits of beauty everywhere"), Anjani was not just drawn to them, the words inspired her to write a song in their honor ("Blue Alert"). After hearing the result, the Order of Canada-winning poet was so impressed that he eventually allowed her the chance to cull through both his published and unpublished works for additional lyrics.

The result is the album Blue Alert, a collection of gentle music tinged with styles ranging from Holly Cole to Tanita Tikaram, with an overriding sense of cool jazz throughout. Listening to "No One After You" sends the listener straight into a '60s beatnik club, while "Half the Perfect World" incites a bossa nova feel. There are light Irish stylings sprinkled in the music as well, from the evocative lilt of "The Mist" to her mournful performance on "Crazy to Love You." Coproducer Cohen's rhythm and pacing is all over the disc, with Anjani's semi-whispered drawl making the songs sound eerily Leonard-like. Fans of the legendary Canadian writer will likely be charmed by these minimalist numbers, and enjoy this new extension of his artistic reach. --Denise Sheppard

CD description. Coproduced by Cohen.

412 MJ  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:17:32pm

re: #404 Kenneth

Wow! He was pretty cool in '74. This concert was so beautiful, he was so gracious to his musicians and the audience. A huge love in. He played for over 3 hours, no opening act. Nobody does that anymore!

Ok, good night!

Sounds like a wonderful concert. Where did you see him?

413 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:17:55pm

re: #403 Killgore Trout

Adnan Oktar's prize is bigger than $64,000.
Just satin'

I think it was a tad less, actually. A few bucks less.

414 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:18:13pm

re: #405 Cognito

You're full of it. It came up because you stuck your nose in it when you said this:

re: #247 Cognito

Eh. It's pretty clear to me what that book -- and Kathryn Joyce -- are all about.

What's this supposed to mean, anyways?

415 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:18:24pm

re: #408 HoosierHoops

Isn't that cool? I did see Dicky V from a distance..But from like a 100 yards away..
I'm pretty sure I'm going to have a hangover in the morning..We started drinking beer at 10am today..WWWWwwwwwwweeeeeeee!
Had a wonderful time today..Sunburn also..I know it's coming..who cares..

Very cool, you shook hands with a legend.
Didnt by chance get an autograph?

416 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:18:29pm
417 David Simon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:19:23pm

re: #344 Kenneth

Obama is now outsourcing torture

Quite a dilemma he's creating for himself. In his speech a couple of days ago, he conflated enhanced interrogation techniques and torture. (The U.S. Code definition of torture says no such thing.) So, unless those foreign interrogators are abiding by the army field manual, it appears that our president is sanctioning - by his definition - "torture."

418 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:19:31pm

re: #405 Cognito

The upshot, Charles, is that it's pretty cruddy to level a charge like that -- some sort of anti-evolution stance -- when it's untrue.

But mostly it's just puzzling. We weren't even discussing the subject.

Cog, stop it. Baiting Charles like that is profoundly stupid. Whenever people do that repeatedly, the altercation always ends with then getting the gate. Drop the matter.

419 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:19:54pm
420 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:20:01pm

re: #400 NelsFree

Nels -

You got the point. Have lived near "Atiyehs" - very honorable people, theoretically "Palestinian." More citizens of the world than I am. Were they the example, there would BE no problems.

-S-

421 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:20:35pm

re: #416 buzzsawmonkey

There are families within my extended family that have that many kids, even now. Has to do with rurality more than anything, these days. In an agrarian society, maybe, more kids meant more hands at the plow.

422 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:20:41pm

re: #381 quickjustice

So Mandy, do you ever get this overwhelming impulse-- that feels like it's coming straight from your genes-- to uh, steal stuff?

--Ducks and dives--

Only if you consider being a fucking capitalist a fucking thief.

Now, good night to you, sir.

423 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:20:44pm

re: #378 Thanos

I wouldn't bother trying to track it down folks, Cog's an engineer of enigma, a master of the murky and he reads from the vedda of the vague. It's beyond zen...

I just wasted some minutes on searching Cog's posting history and I can't find anything unequivocally creationist, or intelligent-design-ist, or teach-the-controversy-ist in there.

424 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:20:45pm

re: #415 DEZes

Very cool, you shook hands with a legend.
Didnt by chance get an autograph?

NO! I'm so stupid! I wish I got his autograph...

425 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:20:57pm

re: #414 Sharmuta

You're full of it. It came up because you stuck your nose in it when you said this:

re: #247 Cognito

What's this supposed to mean, anyways?

Cognito, would you please answer the woman? Sharmuta asked you a reasonable question, she deserves an answer.

426 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:21:15pm

re: #418 Dark_Falcon

No, it's an honest thing to say.

427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:21:45pm

rre: #408 HoosierHoops

You gonna finish up with some bball?

428 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:21:50pm

re: #401 Irenicum

That's one crazy looking Studebaker!

The only song I know of w/Studebaker in the lyrics...at 1:02

429 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:21:52pm

re: #424 HoosierHoops

NO! I'm so stupid! I wish I got his autograph...

The mind reals at times like that. ;)

430 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:21:54pm

re: #406 DEZes

How ya doing KT?


Good. I transferred about 15 wasabi starts into my hydroponic system and a few more strawberries. Shallots are in season in the garden so I'm very happy. How you?

431 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:22:10pm

re: #344 Kenneth

Can we ask for political asylum in Canada, using Obama as the reason?

432 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:23:09pm

re: #425 Dark_Falcon

Nah.

433 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:23:13pm

re: #430 Killgore Trout

Good. I transferred about 15 wasabi starts into my hydroponic system and a few more strawberries. Shallots are in season in the garden so I'm very happy. How you?

Just getting back from a family visit.
I am very well, thanks, and uh, I love strawberries.

434 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:23:46pm

re: #431 NY Nana

Can we ask for political asylum in Canada, using Obama as the reason?

I'm only going to Canada to join the RFC. And that's only if the Red Baron shows up again!

/

435 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:23:54pm

re: #418 Dark_Falcon

Cog, stop it. Baiting Charles like that is profoundly stupid. Whenever people do that repeatedly, the altercation always ends with then getting the gate. Drop the matter.

Cognitas specialty...lots of words, lots of wind...essentially empty blabola

436 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:24:12pm

re: #427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

r

You gonna finish up with some bball?

oh crap! Thanks for reminding me the Cavs are on...Wooooo..Too much beer today..

437 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:24:14pm

re: #432 Cognito

Very telling.

438 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:24:17pm

re: #433 DEZes

Just getting back from a family visit.
I am very well, thanks, and uh, I love strawberries.


pssst ... with wasabi.

439 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:24:33pm

re: #402 Cato the Elder

Speaking of faulty comprehension: videlicet.

Need a bigger hook?

videlicet!
Word!
I thought it was a breed of cat!
Um, I'm not getting the "faulty comprehension" part. Therefore, I must have faulty comprehension. My gosh, you're absolutely right!
/h

440 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:24:41pm

re: #414 Sharmuta

Sharmuta, let's go back to 3/11/09.

What the fuck are you talking about?

And this is in reply to the first nonsense you posted and not the post to Charles. So, wait for Charles's attention regarding that rot if you want, but you can answer the question.

I'm talking about the rampant idiocy that has clearly taken hold here. People marching around pretending to know what they're talking about, as though the New York Times isn't working in concert with -- and heeding the advice of -- the authorities.

The actual authorities, that is, instead of a pack of moronic commenters for whom no shot is too cheap.

441 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:24:54pm

re: #409 Thanos

Thanos -

By "Clinton Mode" - I assume you mean - "RENDITION" - whether local or "back to local" - a/k/a "Rendition-Lite."
I actually admire Former President Clinton for this triangulated Pontius Pilate program. We wash our hands - AND - THEY - do what is necessary. Works for me.

-S-

442 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:25:04pm

re: #426 Cognito

No, it's an honest thing to say.

As I often remind people, honest and smart are not always the same thing. Just because you think something is true, doesn't mean you should say it. But what's worse is that you bait Charles with how you say it.

443 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:25:16pm

re: #438 OldLineTexan

pssst ... with wasabi.

Was dat?

444 MJ  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:25:20pm

For those with a young daughter or young granddaughter:

American Girl’s Journey to the Lower East Side

"... She is a 9-year-old girl living on the Lower East Side in 1914 with her Russian-Jewish immigrant parents, siblings and a grandmother known only as Bubbie..."

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

445 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:25:51pm

EAT IT, COGNITO! WE HAVE YOU ON TAPE.

446 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:26:03pm
447 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:26:04pm

re: #440 MandyManners

That's low, without the context.

But, still, fine. I stand by it because I know people are smart enough to sort out the meaning.

448 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:26:18pm

re: #443 DEZes

Was dat?

Is good on raw feesh!

449 gtrs  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:27:02pm

GO MAGIC GO!

450 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:27:21pm

re: #416 buzzsawmonkey

My mother is one of 12. Her mother lost many, many more. Dad is one of 11, (two died in infancy, three in childbirth).

You should see the family reunions.

451 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:27:25pm

re: #440 MandyManners

Sharmuta, let's go back to 3/11/09.

On the charges of rudeness, insulting regulars, thread-derailment and trolling, Cognito has been convicted. Unfortunately the charge being leveled here is heresy (Creationist subset) which is harder to prove- because Cognito's right, he hasn't posted anything creationist here.

452 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:27:30pm

re: #444 MJ

And big $$. Don't forget the big $$!

/

453 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:27:42pm

re: #447 Cognito

That's low, without the context.

But, still, fine. I stand by it because I know people are smart enough to sort out the meaning.

If you are so keen on the context, then supply it.

454 dmandman  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:27:43pm

This kind of interesting news:
Japan panel wants "first strikes" against enemies: report
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

The Japanese seem to have learned or believe something about N Korea that Obama hasn't or doesn't. China should be very concerned right now.

455 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:27:45pm

re: #430 Killgore Trout

Good. I transferred about 15 wasabi starts into my hydroponic system and a few more strawberries. Shallots are in season in the garden so I'm very happy. How you?

Funny. Right before you mentioned wasabi I was thinking about the warm towels (oshibori ) you get when you eat sushi.

456 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:28:07pm

re: #448 OldLineTexan

Is good on raw feesh!

I googled, hmmmm.
I will look into that.

457 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:28:40pm

re: #456 DEZes

I googled, hmmmm.
I will look into that.

Waaaaaaasssssssssssssssssssssabi.

//

458 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:28:45pm

This is why heresy laws suck, BTW: thought crimes cannot be proven if the thoughts haven't been expressed in print.

459 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:28:52pm

re: #428 BignJames

The only song I know of w/Studebaker in the lyrics...at 1:02

Here's another:

"We Didn't Start The Fire" by Billy Joel

Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio

Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe

Rosenbergs, H-Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, "The King and I", and "The Catcher in the Rye"

Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye

460 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:29:10pm

re: #456 DEZes

I googled, hmmmm.
I will look into that.

Killgore is trying his hand at growing the real thing, not the green horseradish, as I understand it.

461 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:29:23pm

re: #457 Gus 802

Waaaaaaasssssssssssssssssssssabi.

//

Sounded like something Godzilla fought.

462 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:29:32pm

"9/11: Zero Hour" is on NatGeo channel right now.

463 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:29:42pm
464 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:29:53pm

re: #461 DEZes

Sounded like something Godzilla fought.

Like the giant Wasabi Moth? /

465 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:29:54pm

re: #451 Zimriel

On the charges of rudeness, insulting regulars, thread-derailment and trolling, Cognito has been convicted. Unfortunately the charge being leveled here is heresy (Creationist subset) which is harder to prove- because Cognito's right, he hasn't posted anything creationist here.

I hope that if I'm being tried on charges rudeness based on that particular post, you'll go back and suss out the context. Makes all the difference.

466 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:30:23pm

re: #420 Dr. Shalit

Nels -

You got the point. Have lived near "Atiyehs" - very honorable people, theoretically "Palestinian." More citizens of the world than I am. Were they the example, there would BE no problems.

-S-

Shal, you are clearly on a roll, with rusty bearings. Want some popcorn? You go ahead and be a citizen of the world. I am a citizen of The United States of America, the best county on Earth.
/

467 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:30:40pm

re: #447 Cognito

That's low, without the context.

But, still, fine. I stand by it because I know people are smart enough to sort out the meaning.

You should chill the hell out..I remember when Charles banned you and you came crawling back on your knees and he let you back..
You should just chill the hell out from now on..Cause I got a feeling you are this freaking close...''
Dumbass
/and really don't reply to this post..

468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:30:50pm

re: #459 avanti

Perhaps he should have said the "only decent song..."

469 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:30:58pm
470 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:30:59pm

re: #464 Gus 802

Like the giant Wasabi Moth? /

Yeah, something like that, But then again I think Tundra sounds like a Godzilla monster. ;)

471 Spare O'Lake  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:31:01pm

Good Evening LGF.
Everybody happy tonight?

472 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:31:22pm

re: #453 Dark_Falcon

If you are so keen on the context, then supply it.

No need. It's there if anyone wants to see it.

473 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:31:26pm

re: #463 buzzsawmonkey

I had lots of great-aunts and great-uncles. Actual aunts and uncles, not so much. The immigrant generation from the early part of last century ran to big families; there were a lot fewer kids born in the next generation, fewer still in mine.

Same in my family. My grandmother was one of fourteen (all lived to adulthood, 1 killed on Guadalcanal), but my father was one of only three. I was one of three as well. People see our five and look at us like we're nuts, though.

474 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:31:32pm

re: #428 BignJames

The only song I know of w/Studebaker in the lyrics...at 1:02

Big James -

The "Stude" was a '53 - A Lowey Coupe! THE Pretty-Ist US Car built by a Major Manufacturer for at least 10 years until the 1963 Corvette. Good Taste to say the least.

-S-

475 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:31:32pm

re: #453 Dark_Falcon

If you are so keen on the context, then supply it.

No, no. We're supposed to guess what he means, then when we do just that he can claim we're wrong. It's one of his favorite games.

476 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:31:49pm

re: #471 Spare O'Lake

Good Evening LGF.
Everybody happy tonight?

LOL

477 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:32:07pm

re: #470 DEZes

Yeah, something like that, But then again I think Tundra sounds like a Godzilla monster. ;)

Ah, Tundra. That's a pick-up from the land of Godzilla. /

478 JCM  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:32:38pm

re: #471 Spare O'Lake

Good Evening LGF.
Everybody happy tonight?

479 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:32:44pm

re: #472 Cognito

No need. It's there if anyone wants to see it.

you are a fake...but the tutu looks decent on you

480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:32:52pm

re: #463 buzzsawmonkey

My mom and dad have 6, 15 grandkids. Families are shrinking (ceptin' for the duggers).

481 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:33:00pm

re: #477 Gus 802

Ah, Tundra. That's a pick-up from the land of Godzilla. /

Look out for its tail gate.
How ya doing tonight Gus.

482 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:33:07pm

re: #469 Gus 802

Wasabi Moth

oh noes, mom sed no play wif fud unles iz mous!

/

483 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:33:14pm

re: #467 HoosierHoops

I'm as chilled as chilled can be, my friend. I've had no harsh words for anyone here, that I can remember.

484 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:33:15pm

Just got back from the cheesecake party. So many kinds to sample! I took a tiny sliver of the raspberry swirl, chocolate truffle, white chocolate macadamia nut, tiramisu layers, but passed on the tofu vegan crap.

It was a pretty large crowd, for a non-New Yorkre: #480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My mom and dad have 6, 15 grandkids. Families are shrinking (ceptin' for the duggers).

Hasidic ladies' gathering. I even saw Debbie Schlussel's mom. Everybody loves cheesecake.

485 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:33:49pm

re: #475 Sharmuta

No, no. We're supposed to guess what he means, then when we do just that he can claim we're wrong. It's one of his favorite games.

Sounds like a shell game.

486 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:33:58pm

re: #480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My mom and dad have 6, 15 grandkids. Families are shrinking (ceptin' for the duggers).

I have 9 kids, 22 (going on 23) grandkids. Everybody else's family is shrinking. Soon I will rule the world.

BWAHAHA!

487 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:34:03pm

re: #483 Cognito

I'm as chilled as chilled can be, my friend. I've had no harsh words for anyone here, that I can remember.

Except the ones you had for Charles.

488 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:34:05pm

re: #477 Gus 802

Ah, Tundra. That's a pick-up from the land of Godzilla. /

Actually they are built in Arlington, Texas. Near the Six Flags park.

489 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:34:08pm

re: #481 DEZes

Look out for its tail gate.
How ya doing tonight Gus.

Doing OK. My neck feels like there's a monster inside there but otherwise it's a quite weekend all around.

Yourself?

490 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:34:15pm

re: #479 albusteve

you are a fake...but the tutu looks decent on you

Well played, sir. Well played.

491 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:34:37pm

re: #447 Cognito

That's low, without the context.

But, still, fine. I stand by it because I know people are smart enough to sort out the meaning.

Oh, bite me.

492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:34:41pm

re: #484 Alouette

Should've tried the vegan. Most of the time it is awful, but every once in a while...mmmmmm.

One of the reasons I gave up being a vegan was cheesecake.

493 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:34:48pm

Sorry for the messed up post.

494 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:34:49pm

re: #488 OldLineTexan

Actually they are built in Arlington, Texas. Near the Six Flags park.

Thought that might be the case. OK, designed in Godzilla Country.

495 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:34:50pm

Man, I'm a fucking witty wit.

496 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:35:14pm

re: #489 Gus 802

Doing OK. My neck feels like there's a monster inside there but otherwise it's a quite weekend all around.

Yourself?

I am rolling.

497 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:35:16pm

re: #463 buzzsawmonkey

I had lots of great-aunts and great-uncles. Actual aunts and uncles, not so much. The immigrant generation from the early part of last century ran to big families; there were a lot fewer kids born in the next generation, fewer still in mine.

I visited my grandmothers grave in a small cemetary last month and started noticing all the other gravestones in it. Of probably 100 graves, 50 - 60 were of children under the age of 10.

498 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:35:19pm

re: #484 Alouette

I'm so jealous. A cheesecake party! I want one.

499 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:35:33pm
500 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:35:38pm

re: #486 Alouette

Muslim or Mormon?

/

501 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:35:46pm

re: #447 Cognito

Raise the flag higher!
Cog, guess which flag it is?
/

502 Zimriel  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:36:12pm

re: #486 Alouette

I have 9 kids, 22 (going on 23) grandkids. Everybody else's family is shrinking. Soon I will rule the world.

BWAHAHA!

We could do worse...

503 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:36:21pm

re: #494 Gus 802

Thought that might be the case. OK, designed in Godzilla Country.

Probably. And I don't know what the imported content is.

504 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:36:37pm

re: #495 MandyManners

Man, I'm a fucking witty wit.

Killgore has the Strawberries. ;)

505 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:36:52pm

re: #500 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Muslim or Mormon?

/

We are Juice. Considering the birthrate of most other Juice, we will soon be the only Juice.

BWAHAHA!

506 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:37:06pm

re: #501 NelsFree

Raise the flag higher!
Cog, guess which flag it is?
/

The one for more sopapillas at Pancho's Mexican Buffet?

SWEET!

507 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:37:08pm

re: #504 DEZes

Killgore has the Strawberries. ;)

Sorry meant to click Sharm.

508 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:37:35pm

re: #503 OldLineTexan

Probably. And I don't know what the imported content is.

Yeah. I know VWs have mixed up parts -- country of origin. I think they get a lot of transmissions from Brazil for example.

509 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:37:37pm

re: #445 MandyManners

When I saw Cognito's avatar, for ages I thought it was a bear's ass, walking away...I had to enlarge it to see what it actually was. I then knew that I had thought Cognito was a horses' ass. And it has been proven by his posts.

510 Bloodnok  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:38:33pm

re: #509 NY Nana

When I saw Cognito's avatar, for ages I thought it was a bear's ass, walking away...I had to enlarge it to see what it actually was. I then knew that I had thought Cognito was a horses' ass. And it has been proven by his posts.

LOL

511 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:38:45pm

re: #490 Cognito

Well played, sir. Well played.

re: #490 Cognito

Well played, sir. Well played.

you are a sissy...you add nothing, an attention whore at best...I'm a hayseed and you are scared of me, won't respond to my questions and fall back to your dodge and endless inferiority blather...I don't take you serious...

512 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:38:59pm

re: #509 NY Nana

The world has more horses asses than horses.
;)

513 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:39:05pm

re: #351 OldLineTexan

Ah they. One of these days I want to be a part of they. They always seem to be having all the fun, with controlling everything and all.

514 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:39:13pm

re: #495 MandyManners

Man, I'm a fucking witty wit.

When wit fails, fall back on manners.

Oh, wait...

515 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:39:36pm

re: #433 DEZes

Luckily I'm free of family obligations for a while. Indoor strawberries have to be pollinated by had since I don't have an indoor beehive. I use a paint bush, wear a bee suit and play Berry White albums for full effect. Sexy time!

516 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:39:43pm

Before the cheesecake buffet tables opened, we sat nicely and listened to a little homily about the upcoming holiday, and loving your fellow human and stuff. I can condense it here into 3 lines:

Great people talk about ideas.
Ordinary people talk about stuff.
Mean people talk about other people.

517 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:39:46pm

re: #512 DEZes

The world has more horses asses than horses.
;)

Two rumps per horse. At the very least.

518 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:40:20pm

re: #515 Killgore Trout

Luckily I'm free of family obligations for a while. Indoor strawberries have to be pollinated by had since I don't have an indoor beehive. I use a paint bush, wear a bee suit and play Berry White albums for full effect. Sexy time!

Linky?

/

519 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:40:30pm

re: #515 Killgore Trout

Luckily I'm free of family obligations for a while. Indoor strawberries have to be pollinated by had since I don't have an indoor beehive. I use a paint bush, wear a bee suit and play Berry White albums for full effect. Sexy time!

LOL.

520 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:40:49pm

re: #513 Irenicum

Ah they. One of these days I want to be a part of they. They always seem to be having all the fun, with controlling everything and all.

They are always up to something, true.

/

521 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:40:52pm

re: #459 avanti

Here's another:

"We Didn't Start The Fire" by Billy Joel

Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio

Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe

Rosenbergs, H-Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, "The King and I", and "The Catcher in the Rye"

Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye

Avanti -

All 'y'all should know. Wish I had the "Stude" Trademarks and enough money in my back pocket to start a REAL Car Company. as the Chinese respect the BUICK brand from WW II experience - The Russians respect Studebaker Trucks. From 1942 - 1945 they were the USStudebakeR as far as basic road transport went. That is all.

-S-

522 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:40:53pm

re: #518 Gus 802

Linky?

/

LOL!

523 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:41:08pm

re: #483 Cognito

I'm as chilled as chilled can be, my friend. I've had no harsh words for anyone here, that I can remember.

Dear Iron Fist
Blessed is thy rule to never post while drunk..Thy word be done..Thy Bud be cold..Forgive me as I forgive Cog..*spit*
Oh Iron Fist..If Charles Shitcan's Cog..please save it in digital heaven so I can laugh about it later..
Amen..
*opening another Bud* I love raceday

524 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:41:14pm

re: #253 Thanos

Speaking of which more lizards need to get out to the kindle store and write some better reviews for LGF. Reine wrote one, but the stalker sites outnumber her one review. I would write one, but my real name is tied to my acct there...

Thanos - you need to look around "your account" I believe in options or preferences, you can put a "name" that you want to have attached to anything you post at amazon.com., does not have to be your real name. I think that's what I did.

525 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:41:20pm

re: #499 buzzsawmonkey

BTW, back when I was a kid, the mansions in the suburb I grew up in--all built in the 1900-1914 era--were all bought by young Catholic doctors and similar professionals so that they'd have room for their 10- or 12-kid families. These mansions all had ballrooms on the top floors--really, ballrooms--which the kids used as playrooms. Nobody wanted 50-year-old mansions back then (hell, back then nobody wanted the Frank Lloyd Wright houses, either; they were considered "impractical"), and the young professionals got 'em cheap.

No one started grooving?

526 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:41:20pm
527 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:41:23pm

re: #467 HoosierHoops

I remember when Charles banned you ....

Alas, those were the days.

528 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:41:32pm

re: #522 Sharmuta

LOL!

Have to wait for the video. Could be a Youtube sensation!

529 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:41:34pm

re: #515 Killgore Trout

Luckily I'm free of family obligations for a while. Indoor strawberries have to be pollinated by had since I don't have an indoor beehive. I use a paint bush, wear a bee suit and play Berry White albums for full effect. Sexy time!

Hay look! Killgore made teh punny!

/

530 Bloodnok  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:41:52pm

re: #515 Killgore Trout

Luckily I'm free of family obligations for a while. Indoor strawberries have to be pollinated by had since I don't have an indoor beehive. I use a paint bush, wear a bee suit and play Berry White albums for full effect. Sexy time!

I would have thought Blind Melon, myself, but Barry White is good too.

531 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:41:53pm

re: #528 Gus 802

Have to wait for the video. Could be a Youtube sensation!

Bigger than Susan Boyle!

532 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:42:12pm

re: #523 HoosierHoops

Helluva race!

533 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:42:12pm

re: #526 buzzsawmonkey

That's what I meant earlier. Thanks Buzz.

534 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:42:20pm

re: #512 DEZes

The world has more horses asses than horses.
;)

Number of horses?
I just count up all the hooves and divide by four.
/h

535 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:42:33pm

re: #526 buzzsawmonkey

He's an ass.

536 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:42:38pm

re: #526 buzzsawmonkey

I missed whatever Cognito did to put everyone's back up, but I'd like to see everyone chill out.

I like Cognito. Sometimes, there's a flash of insight; sometimes, Cog's the grain-of-sand irritant that causes others to bring forth a pearl.

Either way, it's good.

no it is not...you have missed too much it seems...

537 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:42:42pm

re: #531 Sharmuta

Bigger than Susan Boyle!

Can she yodel? /

538 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:42:45pm

re: #518 Gus 802

You asked for it......
No Rain

539 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:43:03pm

BBIAW I got The Kid his first ramp today he's wired to the gills.

540 Crimsonfisted  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:43:13pm

re: #530 Bloodnok

I would have thought Blind Melon, myself, but Barry White is good too.

Elvis for me, for sexy. Antediluvian Elvis.

541 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:43:56pm

re: #526 buzzsawmonkey

I'm puzzled, but chuckling. Lots of ass-calling and flag-raising, and in response to no particular offense, that I can see.

Reactionary isn't great, in itself. But a vociferous reaction to no original action is really something to see.

542 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:44:08pm

re: #532 pingjockey

Helluva race!

Hell of a race..Danica was very impressive..A few more HP and that woman would have won..Ran a very smart aggressive race...

543 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:44:21pm
544 JacksonTn  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:44:26pm

re: #529 OldLineTexan

Hay look! Killgore made teh punny!

/

OLT ... I picture Killgore as a Steven Wright type of comedian ... what do you think KT? ... am I right? ...

545 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:44:37pm

re: #459 avanti

Here's another:

"We Didn't Start The Fire" by Billy Joel

Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio

Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe

Rosenbergs, H-Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, "The King and I", and "The Catcher in the Rye"

Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye

Here's the video. No embedding, sorry.

546 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:44:43pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout

You asked for it......
No Rain

Oh yeah. Forgot about them. The lead singer passed away sometime ago.

547 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:44:49pm

Flag-raising no good. I am STILL waiting for my fucking sopapillas!

/

548 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:44:51pm

Hey, just realized it's Sunday night and we can stay up real late... cool ....

Buckethead, Soothsayer live. (low volume recording so turn it up)

549 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:45:00pm

re: #539 MandyManners

I keep asking about the dosage, if it's helping. I think you're missing my posts. Or, you don't want me to ask, just so you know, the codeword is "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS YA FAT BASTARD!"

550 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:45:23pm

re: #543 buzzsawmonkey

Most of us try to answer and clarify when we make a statement that others don't quite understand. Others play games.

551 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:45:32pm

re: #544 JacksonTn

OLT ... I picture Killgore as a Steven Wright type of comedian ... what do you think KT? ... am I right? ...

Too corny, IMO. "Spot Remover", for example.

552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:45:38pm

re: #544 JacksonTn

I picture KT as Bill Hicks.

553 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:45:39pm

re: #512 DEZes

The world has more horses asses than horses.

Darn...I can't deal in higher mathematics, but we all recognize a horses' ass when we see read his post.

554 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:45:51pm

re: #525 MandyManners

Mandy -

My Office - which was rented to the British Purchasing Commission during WW II, WAS part of a Ballroom during Prohibition. Amazing history here at the corner of Kingsley Street and Deal Lake Drive.

-S-

555 Bloodnok  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:46:03pm

re: #552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I picture KT as Bill Hicks.

I picture Hunter S. Thompson.

556 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:46:16pm

re: #542 HoosierHoops
I was surprised at the amount of accidents! Cool weather . sticky track, figured it'd be a very fast . clean race. I was waiting for Marco andretti and whoever he got in the accident with to throw down!

557 JacksonTn  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:46:26pm

re: #552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I picture KT as Bill Hicks.

FBV ... never head of him ... going to youtube now ...

558 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:46:36pm

re: #553 NY Nana

Darn...I can't deal in higher mathematics, but we all recognize a horses' ass when we see read his post.

Hey you! Hope today finds you well..It's been awhile..

559 JacksonTn  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:47:05pm

re: #551 OldLineTexan

Too corny, IMO. "Spot Remover", for example.

OLT ... what is spot remover ...

560 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:47:34pm

re: #557 JacksonTn

careful there.

561 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:47:38pm

re: #545 Dark_Falcon

Here's the video. No embedding, sorry.

Here's the video embedded:

562 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:48:01pm

re: #559 JacksonTn

OLT ... what is spot remover ...

One of Steven Wright's jokes.

"I used Spot Remover on my dog. Now he's gone."

563 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:48:07pm

re: #559 JacksonTn
It removes stray dogs.

564 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:48:33pm

re: #562 OldLineTexan

One of Steven Wright's jokes.

"I used Spot Remover on my dog. Now he's gone."

Well dog gone.

565 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:48:36pm

re: #545 Dark_Falcon

Dark_Falcon -

The Mrs. in theVideo looks & Cooks a LOT like Lucille Ball. Please 'splain.

-S-

566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:48:37pm

I watching the game. Too bad they didn't have that jacket in pink.

567 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:48:50pm

re: #253 Thanos

Speaking of which more lizards need to get out to the kindle store and write some better reviews for LGF. Reine wrote one, but the stalker sites outnumber her one review. I would write one, but my real name is tied to my acct there...

go to your account, personalization and under "community" go to your public profile, and click "edit my profile", and on the right hand side, you can edit the name that shows up to everyone else - you can enter whatever you want.

568 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:48:58pm

re: #556 pingjockey

I was surprised at the amount of accidents! Cool weather . sticky track, figured it'd be a very fast . clean race. I was waiting for Marco andretti and whoever he got in the accident with to throw down!

I watching the ABC feed from today..You get a different view from tv than live..lap 138...I didn't see the fire in the pits to Miera

569 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:48:59pm

re: #451 Zimriel

Unfortunately the charge being leveled here is heresy (Creationist subset) which is harder to prove- because Cognito's right, he hasn't posted anything creationist here. ...

You're wrong. He has.

570 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:49:37pm
571 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:50:18pm

re: #564 DEZes

Well dog gone.

Triclorethylene: strong stuff.

/

572 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:50:38pm

re: #521 Dr. Shalit

Avanti -

All 'y'all should know. Wish I had the "Stude" Trademarks and enough money in my back pocket to start a REAL Car Company. as the Chinese respect the BUICK brand from WW II experience - The Russians respect Studebaker Trucks. From 1942 - 1945 they were the USStudebakeR as far as basic road transport went. That is all.

-S-

From a Russian web site on the US 6 Studebaker
Weight: 2.5 tons.

Speed: 72kmh (45mph).

Range: 384km (240 miles).

This vehicle was introduced in June 1941 and came in 13 variations, including 6x6 and 6x4, with both short and long wheelbase. Almost all of the US 6x4 U7 Cargo trucks produced between 1942 and 1945 were delivered to Russia as part of the lend lease programme. The "Studer", as it was nicknamed, became the reliable workhorse of the Red Army. Russian drivers soon called the Studebaker 'King of roads'.

573 JacksonTn  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:50:59pm

He is pretty raw but I saw Dave Attell live and I was laughing so hard I was crying ...

574 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:51:15pm

re: #571 Gus 802

Triclorethylene: strong stuff.

/

Not something most people have in the cabinets.

575 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:51:19pm

Un-fucking-believable. I guess on some level I shouldn't be surprised that CNN chose to run this UNMITIGATED LOAD OF BULLSHIT on Memorial Day weekend.

Zaeef -- who claims he is no longer a Taliban member -- alleges the military engaged in abusive treatment both at Bagram and Guantanamo. He says he is still bitter about his time there. Closing Guantanamo Bay, he told CNN, is only part of the justice those detained there deserve.

"It was a bad stain on American history," he said. "If they are closing Guantanamo for justice, they have to bring the people who are torturing people, who abuse people, to justice."

FUCK HIM AND FUCK CNN! This fucking piece of shit forefitted his right to 'justice' by whatever definition when he cast his lot with the fucking Taliban.

576 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:52:14pm

re: #544 JacksonTn

OLT ... I picture Killgore as a Steven Wright type of comedian ... what do you think KT? ... am I right? ...

I actually lok like a slightly less handsome version of Mathew Modine with a full beard and a crew cut.

577 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:52:20pm

re: #574 DEZes

Not something most people have in the cabinets.

We actually did. Large bottle too. Stuff used to scare me more than pure acetone. My mom used it for cleaning fine wire dies at work.

578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:52:31pm

re: #573 JacksonTn

You're just seeing the shock crap that made it to youtube. He died several years ago... had some HBO specials that were wicked funny.

579 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:52:45pm

re: #557 JacksonTn

Bill Hicks rules.

580 mojo jojo  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:52:52pm

OT: Enjoy your Memorial
And in a big FU to President Obama, North Korea has conducted a nuclear test.
Let's hope we can make it alive to labor Day.

NukeTest

581 schnapp  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:52:52pm

re: #569 Charles

Hey Charles, have you read "The Falling" by Anne Provoost? It's about the lure of extremism in Europe - specifically Belgium. Just thought you may be interested.

582 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:53:22pm

re: #579 Killgore Trout

You. Are. Welcome.

583 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:53:38pm

re: #565 Dr. Shalit

Dark_Falcon -

The Mrs. in the Video looks & Cooks a LOT like Lucille Ball. Please 'splain.

-S-

Most likely, Billy Joel wanted a Lucille Ball analog to give the initial scenes a 1950's 'feel'. I don't know much about the making of the video, so I can't say much more.

584 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:53:50pm

re: #577 Gus 802

We actually did. Large bottle too. Stuff used to scare me more than pure acetone. My mom used it for cleaning fine wire dies at work.

Its nasty stuff for sure, Oh got the renders.
Sweet.

585 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:53:57pm

re: #576 Killgore Trout

I always shave before I go to the UK. The beard/crew cut combo seems to scare them. I don't know why.

586 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:54:00pm

re: #569 Charles

Charles -

Once more - in simple terms - for the record. Creation started things, Evolution brought them to their present state of affairs. Guess to that extent I am a Monkey's Nephew.

-S-

587 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:54:07pm

re: #570 buzzsawmonkey

Irritants are fine; it's just that his pattern has become set and predictable.

588 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:54:15pm

re: #584 DEZes

Its nasty stuff for sure, Oh got the renders.
Sweet.

Cool. Thanks!

589 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:54:23pm

re: #581 schnapp

Hey Charles, have you read "The Falling" by Anne Provoost? It's about the lure of extremism in Europe - specifically Belgium. Just thought you may be interested.

Sounds interesting..Any background on the book you can write about?

590 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:54:37pm

re: #580 mojo jojo

OT: Enjoy your Memorial
And in a big FU to President Obama, North Korea has conducted a nuclear test.
Let's hope we can make it alive to labor Day.

NukeTest

Felix Unger?

591 schnapp  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:55:00pm

re: #579 Killgore Trout

Bill Hicks rules.

He's a damn genius!

592 JacksonTn  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:55:14pm

re: #585 Killgore Trout

I always shave before I go to the UK. The beard/crew cut combo seems to scare them. I don't know why.

KT ... that's weird ... scares the girls? ... if you went to India to get a girl ... would you shave the beard? ...

593 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:55:35pm

re: #585 Killgore Trout

I always shave before I go to the UK. The beard/crew cut combo seems to scare them. I don't know why.

I can take a guess ... it's a popular look amongst the less-friendly "Asians" in that country. Also big with the old boy bikers here.

/no connection that I'm aware of.

/

594 NelsFree  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:55:46pm

re: #543 buzzsawmonkey

We are all asses on occasion. As ol' Bill Shakespeare said, somewhere or other, "If we were all served as we deserve, which among us would 'scape whipping?"

Darn it, BSM, you are a Karma magnet! I'm closing down my vendor's stall of puns, jokes, video links, and observations on life in general. I shall administer the Three Affectations as follows:

Sharmuta and Mandy: Chill. *group hug*
Buzzsawmonkey: *pat on back*
Cognito: second *whack*

plus an honorable mention to Cato for causing my faulty comprehension: how did you do that?
G'nite.

595 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:55:55pm
596 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:55:56pm

Math Question for the group (for a formula from a game I play)

X times 1.12 = 978. How do I find X?

597 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:56:02pm

re: #567 reine.de.tout

Thanks I'll do that

598 schnapp  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:56:51pm

re: #596 Dark_Falcon

Math Question for the group (for a formula from a game I play)

X times 1.12 = 978. How do I find X?

X=978/1.12

599 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:56:54pm

re: #595 buzzsawmonkey

I thought the Cider House rules.

tacos rule

600 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:57:06pm

re: #570 buzzsawmonkey

Well, maybe I'm a mellow mood--or maybe I just think we need more than one House Irritant, especially since some people have been cozying up to avanti lately.

We need people who are willing to be contrary or annoying to keep us honest. And unlike the pathetic trolls who tend to show up in the creationist threads, Cognito can at least put together a literate sentence.


goofy, over the top, self indulgent crap?...he barely speaks English half the time...a stressed intellect that is fooling no one

601 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:57:10pm

re: #575 Fenway_Nation
Communist/Clinton News Network or Pravda of the Airwaves.

602 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:57:11pm

re: #595 buzzsawmonkey

I thought the Cider House rules.

Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks.

603 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:57:27pm

re: #576 Killgore Trout

You were great in "Vision Quest"!

604 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:57:43pm

re: #569 Charles

You're wrong. He has.

I know I'll be accused of rudeness for saying so, but I'm sorry. I really don't think it's right -- or, in this context, even fair -- to level untrue charges.

So even though I don't feel like doing it, you're forcing me to lay out my personal beliefs here. Very well. Here goes:

I believe in creation in the sense that I believe in God. I believe in an afterlife, and by extension, a before-life, so to speak. Simultaneously, I believe in the power of proof. In the value of evidence. And the evidence points toward evolution, as the manner in which you and I arrived here, using our lovely opposable thumbs to tap the space bars on our respective keyboards.

For some people those view may feel contradictory. For me they don't. As I mentioned a few posts ago, I keep separate in my mind the two questions of origin and method. Likewise science and religion. Issues I've blathered on about at some length here.

If I correctly understand the meaning of creationist as you're using it, I don't believe I fit the definition. Perhaps I'm wrong.

There you have it.

605 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:57:59pm

re: #583 Dark_Falcon

Most likely, Billy Joel wanted a Lucille Ball analog to give the initial scenes a 1950's 'feel'. I don't know much about the making of the video, so I can't say much more.

Billy Joel and Elton John played here in Indy last week...My friend Paulie went..He send me an email.. It was f'g Awesome!
They played alot songs together...Who knew? I'm sorry I blew it off...

606 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:58:05pm

re: #596 Dark_Falcon

Math Question for the group (for a formula from a game I play)

X times 1.12 = 978. How do I find X?

Dark_Falcon -

Divide 978 by 1.12 - BASIC ALGEBRA.

-S-

607 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:58:26pm

re: #599 OldLineTexan

Mercedes Ruehl.

608 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:58:33pm
609 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:58:52pm

re: #411 JHW

Here's Blue Alert

610 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:59:14pm

re: #578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You're just seeing the shock crap that made it to youtube. He died several years ago... had some HBO specials that were wicked funny.

As I often say, cable stations need to choose their names more carefully. Many of them have changed beyond their original intent, but their name suggest otherwise.

For example:
• You don't see any music videos on MTV
• You don't see any history on the History Channel.
• You don't see anything funny on Comedy Central.

611 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:59:21pm

re: #604 Cognito

I know I'll be accused of rudeness for saying so, but I'm sorry. I really don't think it's right -- or, in this context, even fair -- to level untrue charges.

So even though I don't feel like doing it, you're forcing me to lay out my personal beliefs here. Very well. Here goes:

I believe in creation in the sense that I believe in God. I believe in an afterlife, and by extension, a before-life, so to speak. Simultaneously, I believe in the power of proof. In the value of evidence. And the evidence points toward evolution, as the manner in which you and I arrived here, using our lovely opposable thumbs to tap the space bars on our respective keyboards.

For some people those view may feel contradictory. For me they don't. As I mentioned a few posts ago, I keep separate in my mind the two questions of origin and method. Likewise science and religion. Issues I've blathered on about at some length here.

If I correctly understand the meaning of creationist as you're using it, I don't believe I fit the definition. Perhaps I'm wrong.

There you have it.

That works for me. I consider that answer satisfactory.

612 JacksonTn  Sun, May 24, 2009 7:59:29pm

re: #600 albusteve


albusteve ... I found the perfect Alvin Lee song for you ... I posted last night but you were cleaning! ... no youtube for it just imeem ...

[Link: www.imeem.com...]

613 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:00:03pm

re: #596 Dark_Falcon

Math Question for the group (for a formula from a game I play)

X times 1.12 = 978. How do I find X?

Here's the results from using the question in exact form from WolframAlpha.

Which of course isn't right.

614 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:00:30pm

re: #592 JacksonTn

crewcut+beard=muslim.

My son has the same problem from time to time. Til they see the tattoos.

615 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:00:39pm

re: #606 Dr. Shalit

Dark_Falcon -

Divide 978 by 1.12 - BASIC ALGEBRA.

-S-

Thank you. I thought that was the answer but wanted to make sure. Geeze, and I did well in my last two algebra classes. [smacks self]

616 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:00:48pm

re: #610 gmsc

gmsc -

AND - NOTHING Holy or Roman about same Germanic Empire?

-S-

617 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:00:49pm

re: #610 gmsc

As I often say, cable stations need to choose their names more carefully. Many of them have changed beyond their original intent, but their name suggest otherwise.

For example:
• You don't see any music videos on MTV
• You don't see any history on the History Channel.
• You don't see anything funny on Comedy Central.

History Channel just ran "Band of Brothers" yesterday.

Comedy Central has South Park, and a new Jeff Dunham special.

MTV has sucked for decades, though!

618 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:01:38pm

re: #549 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I keep asking about the dosage, if it's helping. I think you're missing my posts. Or, you don't want me to ask, just so you know, the codeword is "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS YA FAT BASTARD!"

Oh, goodness! I apologize. I have missed your posts.

He's on 10 mgs. of Adderall M-F.

The late afternoon hours are fucking intolerable for me. I cannot imagine what they must be like for him.

Good grief. I just want to crawl into my cave with him and tell the CORPORATE-CUBE WORLD to kiss my ass.

But, from about 8:00-3:00, he sits down, pays attention and participates.

619 Jim D  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:01:39pm

re: #613 Gus 802

works ok if you just enter: X times 1.12 = 978

620 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:01:49pm

re: #610 gmsc

• You don't see anything funny on Comedy Central.

Mannaquin and Ghostbusters II have been on within the last month!

621 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:02:00pm

re: #604 Cognito

I'm looking at your comments in this thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

... defending 'creation science'.

There are a lot more in this vein. If you really push it, I'll dig them up. But I think it's pretty laughable that you seem to think I don't remember your earlier comments on creationism.

622 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:02:00pm

re: #617 OldLineTexan

Old Line Texan -

"... I HATE MY MTV..."

-S-

623 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:02:11pm

re: #619 Jim D

works ok if you just enter: X times 1.12 = 978

Yep.

Also did (x) 1.12 = 978

624 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:02:18pm

How is saying the Big Bang started everything, and before that there was nothing, different except in poetic style from saying God created the universe ex nihilo?

If you posit the Big Bang as something-from-nothing, don't you end up with the same question that the word "God" attempts to answer?

625 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:02:25pm

re: #610 gmsc

As I often say, cable stations need to choose their names more carefully. Many of them have changed beyond their original intent, but their name suggest otherwise.

For example:
• You don't see any music videos on MTV
• You don't see any history on the History Channel.
• You don't see anything funny on Comedy Central.

re: #617 OldLineTexan

Comedy Central has South Park, and a new Jeff Dunham special.

That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about!

626 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:02:51pm

re: #620 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mannaquin and Ghostbusters II have been on within the last month!

I'm glad you agree with me.

627 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:03:36pm

re: #593 OldLineTexan

Nah, it's something different. It a look that you just don't see in the UK. I think It pegs me as an American and I'm over 6 foot so I think they find it intimidating. They probably think I'm packin' heat.

628 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:03:41pm

re: #624 Cato the Elder

How is saying the Big Bang started everything, and before that there was nothing, different except in poetic style from saying God created the universe ex nihilo?

If you posit the Big Bang as something-from-nothing, don't you end up with the same question that the word "God" attempts to answer?

Cato -

"Thanx." - That is all.

-S-

629 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:03:44pm

re: #618 MandyManners

So, school time, it's working? The rest of the time he's 7?

630 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:03:44pm

re: #615 Dark_Falcon
They're showing a x, y graph, not a straight algebra problem. Fucking idiots.

631 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:04:12pm

re: #615 Dark_Falcon

Thank you. I thought that was the answer but wanted to make sure. Geeze, and I did well in my last two algebra classes. [smacks self]

LOL
You're ok Dark..
So I'm guessing complex fractional slip and flips are out of the question?
*wink*

632 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:04:22pm

re: #603 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I liked him in Full Metal Jacket and Memphis Belle.

633 Cognito  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:04:25pm

re: #621 Charles

I'm looking at your comments in this thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

... defending 'creation science'.

There are a lot more in this vein. If you really push it, I'll dig them up. But I think it's pretty laughable that you seem to think I don't remember your earlier comments on creationism.

You've had your answer.

That's enough.

634 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:04:43pm

re: #624 Cato the Elder

How is saying the Big Bang started everything, and before that there was nothing, different except in poetic style from saying God created the universe ex nihilo?

If you posit the Big Bang as something-from-nothing, don't you end up with the same question that the word "God" attempts to answer?

Yes, you do. Yet, somehow, there's a difference.

Check your premises.

635 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:05:17pm

re: #625 gmsc

That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about!

Cheesecake is in the mouth of the beholder I guess. South Park is genius, IMO, most of the time. And Jeff Dunham is funny.

636 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:06:31pm

re: #118 Sharmuta

Additionally from Trifkovic:

He wants theocracy.

But he's really not a Christian.

637 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:06:42pm

re: #635 OldLineTexan
My boys think Jeff Dunham is a scream.

638 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:06:44pm

re: #629 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So, school time, it's working? The rest of the time he's 7?

Does "7" refer to chronological age? If so, NO. Not at all. That is not an applicable concept for ADHD folks.

639 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:07:10pm

re: #132 freetoken

The BNP are hated in Britain. There are a certain amount of idiots and arseholes they can conceivably hope to get votes from, but ultimately they aren't going anywhere. We still need to expose them for what they are at every opportunity though, keep them down as far as possible.

640 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:07:14pm

re: #633 Cognito

You've had your answer.

That's enough.


Somehow, I don't think you'll be around much longer.

641 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:07:16pm

re: #636 Walter L. Newton

But he's really not a Christian.

Good evening Walter! Hope today finds you well

642 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:07:21pm

re: #624 Cato the Elder

How is saying the Big Bang started everything, and before that there was nothing, different except in poetic style from saying God created the universe ex nihilo?

If you posit the Big Bang as something-from-nothing, don't you end up with the same question that the word "God" attempts to answer?

It's a long thread, so maybe I missed it, but which quote brought up cosmogenesis? I see plenty of posts on evolution, but none on cosmogenesis.

643 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:07:29pm

re: #633 Cognito

You're right, I had my answer, and I've also had enough.

644 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:07:54pm

re: #634 gmsc

Yes, you do. Yet, somehow, there's a difference.

Check your premises.

[looks out back door, checks yard, gate, garage, alley]

[looks out front door, checks garden, walkway, gate, sidewalk, street]

OK. I'm back.

Nothing out of the ordinary.

645 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:08:11pm

re: #608 Iron Fist

I'm combing through their website for a phone number. I want...no...demand to talk to a real-live human being about this puffball pro-Taliban propaganda they're running to try and prove a point about Gitmo. I've conceded that I'll probably not be able to talk to an actual person at CNN until Tuesday morning, but I am not letting this shit slide- not now, not ever.

The last time I was this pissed off at the MSM was over the Sago Mining disaster...and even then I had to bluff my way through the switchboard by saying I had some things to say regarding Dick Cheney's hunting accident.

646 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:08:34pm

re: #638 MandyManners

What I meant was, "So, when meds wear off, he's a boy?" And in turn doing his job? Driving his mom up the wall?

647 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:08:38pm

I think it's a little sad that some of you swallowed Cognito's BS, but whatever.

648 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:08:44pm

re: #636 Walter L. Newton

Trifkovic; hmm. Doesn't sound Scottish...

649 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:08:58pm

Damn it Cogs, had to go and be a complete ass.
Buh Bye.

650 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:09:06pm

Bzzzzzzzzz.
Flounce cycle complete.

651 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:09:41pm

re: #633 Cognito

You've had your answer.

That's enough.

Get a clue..Charles decides what is enough around here..Not you..
Punk

652 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:09:58pm

re: #651 HoosierHoops

Get a clue..Charles decides what is enough around here..Not you..
Punk

And he has. Thank you, Charles.

653 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:10:07pm

re: #641 HoosierHoops

Good evening Walter! Hope today finds you well

Fine. Good weekend at the theatre, over 100 + patron for each performance, which is good for a holiday weekend. Just got in, gonna make a pot of soup or something in a few minutes.

And you? Races, poll, booze, woman... do any dancing?

654 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:10:17pm

Buh-bye.

655 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:10:49pm

re: #651 HoosierHoops
Say AMF! (Adios Mother Fucker) Which is where cogs has gone!

656 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:10:51pm

re: #654 MandyManners

Buh-bye.

See you later.

657 MrPaulRevere  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:11:17pm

re: #651 HoosierHoops

Cognito forgot rule #1: When the man talks, it pays to listen.

658 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:11:41pm

re: #612 JacksonTn

albusteve ... I found the perfect Alvin Lee song for you ... I posted last night but you were cleaning! ... no youtube for it just imeem ...

[Link: www.imeem.com...]

how nice!...never heard that cut...he has a ton of music and I've just sorta rediscovered him after a bit...his older stuff is very tasty too

659 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:11:45pm

re: #639 Jimmah

The BNP are hated in Britain. There are a certain amount of idiots and arseholes they can conceivably hope to get votes from, but ultimately they aren't going anywhere. We still need to expose them for what they are at every opportunity though, keep them down as far as possible.

Jimmah -

OK - and - WHERE ARE THE REAL TORIES? - ready to fight for liberty as in the olden days? David Cameron is better than Gordon Brown, not quite as good as a President John McCain would have been. Where, Pray Tell.

-S-

660 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:12:15pm

re: #615 Dark_Falcon

Thank you. I thought that was the answer but wanted to make sure. Geeze, and I did well in my last two algebra classes. [smacks self]

One of the best rules for formulas is:

"Cross multiply and divide."

Take 1/x = 3/4
That would be (1 x 4)/3 or x = 4/3

Related being: "Whatever you do to one side, you do to the other."

(x) 1.12 = 978

Left side would be x/1.12 resulting in x
Right side would be 978/1.12
Resulting in x = 978/1.12 or 873.214

661 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:12:23pm
662 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:12:25pm

Ohh. TCM running the movie about Barnes Wallace and the skipping bombs.

663 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:13:04pm

re: #577 Gus 802

We actually did. Large bottle too. Stuff used to scare me more than pure acetone. My mom used it for cleaning fine wire dies at work.

My mom used carbon tetrachloride for all her tough cleaning needs.

664 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:13:06pm

re: #660 Gus 802

I had four years of Algebra I.

665 JacksonTn  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:13:17pm

re: #658 albusteve

albusteve ... yeah, it just reminded me of you ... you old rebel ...

666 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:13:49pm

re: #644 Cato the Elder

[looks out back door, checks yard, gate, garage, alley]

[looks out front door, checks garden, walkway, gate, sidewalk, street]

OK. I'm back.

Nothing out of the ordinary.

I failed to take into consideration that someone who found no difference between the Big Bang theory and a supernatural being creating the universe would likely be unfamiliar with the use of the word "premises" as it relates to logical argument.

667 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:14:43pm

re: #660 Gus 802

One of the best rules for formulas is:

"Cross multiply and divide."

Take 1/x = 3/4
That would be (1 x 4)/3 or x = 4/3

Related being: "Whatever you do to one side, you do to the other."

(x) 1.12 = 978

Left side would be x/1.12 resulting in x
Right side would be 978/1.12
Resulting in x = 978/1.12 or 873.214

Gus802 -

Rounding off to three (3) DECIMAL PLACES - 'Zackly!

-S-

668 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:15:02pm

re: #646 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What I meant was, "So, when meds wear off, he's a boy?" And in turn doing his job? Driving his mom up the wall?

I don't think you understand what ADHD is all about for a child his age.

He cannot walk in a straight line. He must spin repeatedly and randomly.

He cannot interact with his peers without crossing boundaries.

He is getting pretty pissed-off because the entire world is telling him that he is fucking up.

Oh, good grief.

FABV, if you really know what the fuck ADHD is all about, you'll get my drift.

669 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:15:19pm

Cog..You act like a punk you get treated like a punk..
You deserved the boot...Now run your little ass over to LGF2.. They must be breathlessly waiting for you..
punk

670 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:15:23pm

re: #664 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had four years of Algebra I.

Four years? I had a math teacher in 8th grade that never stopped yelling out "whatever you do to one side, you do to the other." Made it to two semesters of calculus and stopped. I would need some serious refreshers to go back.

671 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:15:45pm

re: #644 Cato the Elder

[looks out back door, checks yard, gate, garage, alley]

[looks out front door, checks garden, walkway, gate, sidewalk, street]

OK. I'm back.

Nothing out of the ordinary.

Ha, he didn't see me hiding behind the statue of Augustus!

672 Yankee Division Son  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:15:46pm

re: #662 pingjockey

I've seen documentaries on Barnes Wallace and his skipping bombs, very good stuff.. amazing

673 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:16:17pm

re: #661 Sharmuta

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Thanks for posting that. It's clear from the evidence that people can speak and debate their contrary opinions here, but lying about what you believe can irritate our host.

674 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:16:21pm

re: #661 Sharmuta

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

That's one. There are lots more.

675 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:16:49pm

re: #656 Walter L. Newton

See you later.

For some inexplicable reason, I'm reminded of the song the Von Trapp Family Singers performed in The Sound of Music at the end of the concert.

676 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:17:21pm

re: #668 MandyManners

I didn't have the "H" part. Sorry, I did not mean to make light of it, Mandy.

677 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:17:32pm

re: #673 jaunte

Thanks for posting that. It's clear from the evidence that people can speak and debate their contrary opinions here, but lying about what you believe can irritate our host.

Exactly. I have a serious aversion to people who try to bullshit me.

678 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:17:33pm

re: #668 MandyManners

Big Hug Mandy {Mandy}. I have 3 typical boys and my mom is a parapro at the local grade school and has one ADHD boy she helps with. My thoughts and prayers to you and your son Mandy.

679 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:17:35pm

re: #675 MandyManners

For some inexplicable reason, I'm reminded of the song the Von Trapp Family Singers performed in The Sound of Music at the end of the concert.

I thought you were leaving, you said bye bye or something like that. I'm sorry.

680 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:17:49pm

re: #668 MandyManners

I don't think you understand what ADHD is all about for a child his age.

He cannot walk in a straight line. He must spin repeatedly and randomly.

He cannot interact with his peers without crossing boundaries.

He is getting pretty pissed-off because the entire world is telling him that he is fucking up.

Oh, good grief.

FABV, if you really know what the fuck ADHD is all about, you'll get my drift.

Mandy -

Obviously "Beyond Testosterone"

-S-

681 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:18:25pm

re: #614 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

crewcut+beard=muslim.

My son has the same problem from time to time. Til they see the tattoos.

My son has 1) short hair 2) untrimmed beard 3) olive complexion and fits the whole "Middle-Eastern" profile. He is also an IDF vet.

682 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:18:45pm

re: #665 JacksonTn

albusteve ... yeah, it just reminded me of you ... you old rebel ...

heh..I'll take it

683 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:18:52pm

re: #653 Walter L. Newton

Fine. Good weekend at the theatre, over 100 + patron for each performance, which is good for a holiday weekend. Just got in, gonna make a pot of soup or something in a few minutes.

And you? Races, poll, booze, woman... do any dancing?

LOL...mama is passed out..We went to the track around 10:30am and still drinking beer watching the race on TIVO from ABC..
I have prayed to Iron Fist not to say anything to stupid tonight..I Met Thomas Stafford..Commander of Apollo 10 today...Really awesome guy

684 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:18:59pm

Was Cognito a mole?

685 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:19:29pm

re: #674 Charles

That's one. There are lots more.

I'm still going through the thread. The long debunked talking point, however, was something worth pointing out.

686 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:19:46pm

re: #647 Charles

I think it's a little sad that some of you swallowed Cognito's BS, but whatever.

Yep, and I'm sorry. I tried to warn him that you'd ban him if he didn't stop, but he kept right on going. I hope he enjoys his martyr cookie.

687 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:20:07pm

re: #676 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I didn't have the "H" part. Sorry, I did not mean to make light of it, Mandy.

That's okay. You're an adult with ADD.

688 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:20:09pm

re: #681 Alouette

You made me run down to the corner deli and get a slice of cheesecake. Thankfully, they had exactly one piece left.

689 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:21:06pm

re: #688 Sharmuta

You made me run down to the corner deli and get a slice of cheesecake. Thankfully, they had exactly one piece left.

I am sending my fabulous cheesecake recipe to reine for Cookbook II.

690 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:21:08pm

re: #684 MandyManners

Was Cognito a mole?

Nope, just a fool. A man who can't learn and won't listen can only be called a fool.

691 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:21:11pm

re: #688 Sharmuta

You made me run down to the corner deli and get a slice of cheesecake. Thankfully, they had exactly one piece left.

With strawberries?

692 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:21:21pm

re: #685 Sharmuta

I'm still going through the thread. The long debunked talking point, however, was something worth pointing out.

There are lots of other threads too, with similar comments.

I don't just spout off about these things without a reason.

693 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:21:25pm

re: #687 MandyManners

I was a kid with it too. At the time, ADD was referred to as "that little fucking brat!"...

694 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:21:35pm

re: #684 MandyManners

I think more of a fly-fisherman of the trolling genus.

695 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:21:36pm

re: #678 pingjockey

Big Hug Mandy {Mandy}. I have 3 typical boys and my mom is a parapro at the local grade school and has one ADHD boy she helps with. My thoughts and prayers to you and your son Mandy.

Long summer ahead with shrinks and doctors.

It's tearing me apart.

696 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:21:57pm

re: #687 MandyManners
My wife coaches the high school drill/flag team and they call what they have ADOS. Attention Deficeit Oh Shiny!

697 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:22:23pm

re: #688 Sharmuta

You made me run down to the corner deli and get a slice of cheesecake. Thankfully, they had exactly one piece left.

Sharmuta -

"...mmmm - Cheesecake..." Had some, HomeMade yesterday. Truly sinful. It became "LUNCH."

-S-

698 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:22:24pm

re: #679 Walter L. Newton

I thought you were leaving, you said bye bye or something like that. I'm sorry.

Where's my jam and bread, Walter?

699 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:22:45pm

re: #677 Charles

Exactly. I have a serious aversion to people who try to bullshit me.

Charles, on a side note. Thank you for you support the other night with the Teacake incident. Of course, I didn't ask you to block her, and you did what you did on your own, but at the same time, I don't feel especially bad about it.

I got an email from a Lizard right as I was going to bed that night about her initial post, and I wasn't going to get into it at that time. But I kept waking up all night wondering what the big frackas was, and when I did see it in the morning, I couldn't believe what I was reading.

I've go as far back as running modem based bulletin boards in the 80's, so I know how much work it is to maintain an online community, and I will tell you, you do it as well as anyone I've ever seen.

And really, a shout out to all the other Lizards who watch each others back. It's truly a community. And a good one.

Thanks again Charles.

700 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:22:56pm

re: #684 MandyManners

Was Cognito a mole?

I don't think so...just a tongue twisting jerktoid...lots of flowery bullshit that didn't amount to much imo

701 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:22:57pm

re: #695 MandyManners

I just wish there was something we could do!

702 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:23:01pm

re: #698 MandyManners

Where's my jam and bread, Walter?

That'll bring him back to "DOH!"

703 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:23:04pm

re: #692 Charles

There are lots of other threads too, with similar comments.

I don't just spout off about these things without a reason.

I knew cog shouldn't think you were bluffing. That's not you.

704 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:23:10pm

re: #680 Dr. Shalit

Mandy -

Obviously "Beyond Testosterone"

-S-

Within my Power.

705 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:23:38pm

re: #666 gmsc

I failed to take into consideration that someone who found no difference between the Big Bang theory and a supernatural being creating the universe would likely be unfamiliar with the use of the word "premises" as it relates to logical argument.

No, you failed to take into consideration the existence of a sense of humor.

Get over yourself.

706 Idle Drifter  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:23:44pm

Evening everybody. Did I miss a melt down?

707 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:23:54pm

re: #693 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was a kid with it too. At the time, ADD was referred to as "that little fucking brat!"...

Fat Bastard Vegetarian -

"...A/K/A - ROTTEN KID?..."

-S-

708 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:24:09pm

And what's with this one?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

709 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:24:22pm

The Sago Mine Disaster, btw, was a mining accident in West Virignia that took place in early 2006 and killed 12 miners, leaving only one survivor.

The fucking MSM swooped in on this tiny West Virginia town like the carrion-eaters they tend to be and erroniously reported that all the miners survived.

When it became agonizingly clear that there was only one survivor, the MSM went into full spin mode and blamed the mining company, the rescuers and everyone but themselves.

710 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:24:25pm

re: #684 MandyManners

Was Cognito a mole?

I think it was you that posted the Monty Pyton "Argument School" skit in reference to Cog, once.....funny as hell and so apt.

711 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:24:33pm

re: #699 Walter L. Newton

She has ceased to be? She is no more?

712 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:24:39pm

re: #683 HoosierHoops

LOL...mama is passed out..We went to the track around 10:30am and still drinking beer watching the race on TIVO from ABC..
I have prayed to Iron Fist not to say anything to stupid tonight..I Met Thomas Stafford..Commander of Apollo 10 today...Really awesome guy

That's neat. My wonderful girlfriend and I are going to take a little car ride east, to the Colorado plains tomorrow, just for a little relaxing.

713 David Simon  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:24:53pm

re: #645 Fenway_Nation

I'm combing through their website for a phone number. I want...no...demand to talk to a real-live human being about this puffball pro-Taliban propaganda they're running to try and prove a point about Gitmo.

I could be wrong, but I think the timing of that execrable piece of crap has less to do with Memorial Day, and more to do with Obama's speech on Thursday. His pals in the MSM are providing the needed cover for him to follow through with his insane plans to give ALL terrorists constitutional rights.

Obama is going to learn the hard way the lesson he should have learned from watching the fiasco of the disgraced Madame Speaker: encouraging the very worst instincts of your core constituency is never a good idea.

714 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:25:40pm

re: #690 Dark_Falcon

Nope, just a fool. A man who can't learn and won't listen can only be called a fool.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:25:56pm

re: #706 Idle Drifter

Evening everybody. Did I miss a melt down?

I think it was "Suicide by Stinky". Honestly.

716 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:26:19pm

re: #702 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That'll bring him back to "DOH!"

I don't even understand the comment. Bread and Jam, is that some cultural reference I'm missing. Something Simpson realted, i don't watch cartoons.

717 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:26:23pm

re: #693 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was a kid with it too. At the time, ADD was referred to as "that little fucking brat!"...

ADD is not the same as ADHD.

718 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:26:32pm

re: #709 Fenway_Nation
That was your typical media feeding frenzy. Little scrap of info, blown allout of proportion, sensationalized so much as to make the National Enquirer blush with envy. Vile.

719 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:26:46pm

re: #686 Dark_Falcon

Yep, and I'm sorry. I tried to warn him that you'd ban him if he didn't stop, but he kept right on going. I hope he enjoys his martyr cookie.

Aren't there 72 virgins waiting for you when one self-immolates on LGF?

720 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:26:47pm

re: #715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think it was "Suicide by Stinky". Honestly.

not...he is a fool

721 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:26:49pm

re: #704 MandyManners

Mandy -

"OOOF!"

-S-

722 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:26:51pm
723 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:27:10pm

re: #654 MandyManners

Time to celebrate! The bear horse's ass is hibernating all year.

724 MrPaulRevere  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:27:24pm

re: #715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He was asking for it plain and simple, correctamundo.

725 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:27:29pm

re: #515 Killgore Trout

"Berry White" Oh,,,,,,,my,,,,,,,goodness!

726 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:27:35pm

re: #719 Soona'

Aren't there 72 virgins waiting for you when one self-immolates on LGF?

Big hairy smelly ones. ;)

727 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:27:38pm

re: #717 MandyManners

Yeah. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

728 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:27:45pm

re: #712 Walter L. Newton

That's neat. My wonderful girlfriend and I are going to take a little car ride east, to the Colorado plains tomorrow, just for a little relaxing.

Commander Stafford told the news crew today that that the Apollo 10 returning from the moon was the fastest clocked craft of all time..Something like 28,800MPH.. I shook the hand of the fastest human of all time..It was so cool..

729 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:27:56pm

re: #709 Fenway_Nation

The Sago Mine Disaster, btw, was a mining accident in West Virignia that took place in early 2006 and killed 12 miners, leaving only one survivor.

The fucking MSM swooped in on this tiny West Virginia town like the carrion-eaters they tend to be and erroniously reported that all the miners survived.

When it became agonizingly clear that there was only one survivor, the MSM went into full spin mode and blamed the mining company, the rescuers and everyone but themselves.

That's our MFMSM.

730 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:28:33pm

re: #719 Soona'
Yep, if you are male they all look like Helen Thomas. If you're female they all look like Andy Rooney.

731 Idle Drifter  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:28:55pm

re: #715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think it was "Suicide by Stinky". Honestly.

So that explains the fallout.

732 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:28:58pm

re: #728 HoosierHoops

Now that I think of it....That is really freakin' fast.

733 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:29:09pm

re: #730 pingjockey

Yep, if you are male they all look like Helen Thomas. If you're female they all look like Andy Rooney.

Lucky girls.

734 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:29:24pm

re: #517 Gus 802

No ifs ands or butts about it!

735 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:29:33pm

Crappy call!

736 Canoe Train  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:29:33pm

re: #119 Soona'

"Sink The Bismarck!" trailer
737 gmsc  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:29:39pm

re: #624 Cato the Elder

How is saying the Big Bang started everything, and before that there was nothing, different except in poetic style from saying God created the universe ex nihilo?

If you posit the Big Bang as something-from-nothing, don't you end up with the same question that the word "God" attempts to answer?

re: #705 Cato the Elder

No, you failed to take into consideration the existence of a sense of humor.

Get over yourself.

You're right. I should've seen that earlier.

738 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:30:04pm

re: #710 BignJames

I think it was you that posted the Monty Pyton "Argument School" skit in reference to Cog, once.....funny as hell and so apt.

Shut your fostering gob....

[Link: search.aol.com...]

739 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:30:09pm

re: #728 HoosierHoops

Commander Stafford told the news crew today that that the Apollo 10 returning from the moon was the fastest clocked craft of all time..Something like 28,800MPH.. I shook the hand of the fastest human of all time..It was so cool..

Have I ever sent you a piece of space? If not, you have my email. Send me your mailing address and I will send you some meteorites and some support material and you can then have you own piece of the universe.

4.3 million years old or 6000 years old, what ever flavor of that story you are into, but either way, a real neat piece of rock.

740 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:30:17pm

re: #724 MrPaulRevere

He was asking for it plain and simple, correctamundo.

I disagree....extreme arrogance, he's probably stunned and dealing with his runny mascara about now

741 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:30:38pm

re: #706 Idle Drifter

Evening everybody. Did I miss a melt down?

re: #715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think it was "Suicide by Stinky". Honestly.

Cognito just got banned, again. I tried to warn that he was baiting Charles and that Charles wouldn't stand for it, but he kept right on going. It was Charles, not Stinky, who swung the Ban Stick. Cognito's account has gone bye-bye.

742 OldLineTexan  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:30:40pm

Charles, thanks for the Atlantis report earlier. That picture really made me proud and happy.

743 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:31:19pm

We're all traveling around the center of the milky way galaxy at 487,383 mph.

744 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:31:23pm

I recall that cognito already had one timeout, and he sent a sniveling email to Charles, begging to be let back in and promising to be a good boy.

Our Lizard Overlord is all merciful and all suffering.

745 Yankee Division Son  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:31:35pm

re: #710 BignJames

I think it was you that posted the Monty Pyton "Argument School" skit in reference to Cog, once.....funny as hell and so apt.

Monty Python - The Argument Sketch

746 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:32:05pm

It must annoy the pants off the "Czech nationalist" anti-Roma crew that the Czech entry into Eurovision, which made the semis (and was better than the winner, which I couldn't watch all the way through - must be a Euro thing) was Gipsy.cz. Nanner nanner nanner.

747 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:32:28pm
748 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:32:43pm
749 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:32:47pm

re: #735 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Crappy call!

Throw it back!

750 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:33:04pm

re: #732 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now that I think of it....That is really freakin' fast.

He was so cool..You know sometimes in life you meet someone special..And when you shake their hand..You know they are special people..When I was a little kid..I met Jesse Owens..And he just blew me away..
Commander Stafford is a special American

751 Spare O'Lake  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:33:44pm
752 Canoe Train  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:33:53pm

re: #719 Soona'

Flatulent virgins, that all look like Helen Thomas. Cankles, too.

753 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:34:20pm

Going back OT for a second. I still can't believe they used the phrase 'final solution' in a tv ad. That is beyond vile, sick, hell I can't think of a suitable word it is so bad.

754 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:34:29pm

re: #752 Canoe Train

Flatulent virgins, that all look like Helen Thomas. Cankles, too.

Mind bleach please.

755 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:34:53pm

re: #739 Walter L. Newton

Have I ever sent you a piece of space? If not, you have my email. Send me your mailing address and I will send you some meteorites and some support material and you can then have you own piece of the universe.

4.3 million years old or 6000 years old, what ever flavor of that story you are into, but either way, a real neat piece of rock.

BTW, what was the 'Teacake incident'?

756 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:34:54pm

re: #741 Dark_Falcon

I know who Charles is. Who is "Stinky Beaumont"? I always thought it was an alter-ego thing. Am I really that dense? Don't answer the last question.

757 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:34:58pm
758 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:35:07pm

re: #746 Catttt

It must annoy the pants off the "Czech nationalist" anti-Roma crew that the Czech entry into Eurovision, which made the semis (and was better than the winner, which I couldn't watch all the way through - must be a Euro thing) was Gipsy.cz. Nanner nanner nanner.

[Video]

My favorite gypsy of all time:

Django Reinhardt

759 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:35:11pm

re: #736 Canoe Train

Edward R Murrow. One of the last patriotic tv journalists.

760 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:35:31pm

re: #743 jaunte

We're all traveling around the center of the milky way galaxy at 487,383 mph.

I'm sending my bucket of puke to you.

761 Crimsonfisted  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:35:59pm

re: #752 Canoe Train

Flatulent virgins


Wasn't that a band in the 60's? Had one hit "Breaking My First Wind"?

762 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:36:03pm

re: #743 jaunte

We're all traveling around the center of the milky way galaxy at 487,383 mph.

I'm not even wearing a seat belt.

763 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:36:28pm

re: #755 Dark_Falcon

BTW, what was the 'Teacake incident'?

Honestly, you don't want to know. Was my worst evening here. (Either I am very sheltered, or it was truly awful).

764 gtrs  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:36:30pm

MAGIC WIN!

765 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:36:38pm

re: #743 jaunte

We're all traveling around the center of the milky way galaxy at 487,383 mph.

And the dog still wants to stick his head out the window.
;)

766 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:36:47pm
767 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:37:17pm

re: #741 Dark_Falcon

Cognito just got banned, again. I tried to warn that he was baiting Charles and that Charles wouldn't stand for it, but he kept right on going. It was Charles, not Stinky, who swung the Ban Stick. Cognito's account has gone bye-bye.

Reading his posts, and some of the links Charles posted, I am still undecided if he was a creationist, or a contrarian or a bit of both. A careful reading seemed to indicate a guy trying to accommodate his faith, with his rational brain. There is no question that he screwed up by engaging the host about his being a Creationist or not. i.e., if a fellow Lizard calls me a Commie, I may reply less politely that if Charles said it. Cogs tone was too confrontational for a guest in Charles home IMHO.

768 Crimsonfisted  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:37:55pm

re: #758 Gus 802

My favorite gypsy of all time:

Django Reinhardt

Isn't Mother Teresa a gypsy too? At least one of her grandparents were? I read that someplace years ago. I could be wrong, but it has stuck in my brain.

769 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:37:56pm

re: #759 Soona'

Edward R Murrow. One of the last patriotic tv journalists.

Another lizard described Keith Olberman's career as 'one big prolonged urination on Edward R Murrow's grave'.

770 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:38:15pm

re: #764 gtrs

MAGIC WIN!


Well, hell...they should have. One on five basketball is hard to win with any consistency.

771 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:38:30pm

re: #760 MandyManners

Dizzy

772 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:38:35pm

re: #766 buzzsawmonkey

Uber dork has proved the peter principle! He has reached his highest level of incompetence.

773 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:38:44pm
774 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:38:50pm

Looking back at those comments by Cog who is normally precise with words makes me support Charles on this 'un. It wasn't cog being contrarian or devil's advocate, it was an attack on Empiricism and purposeful misinterpretation.

775 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:38:54pm

re: #525 MandyManners

And here I always thought they were saying "barroom" blitz! I have to say too, they had some fabulous hair!

776 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:38:59pm

re: #762 Sharmuta

Hang on to your cheesecake.

777 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:39:24pm

re: #768 Crimsonfisted

Isn't Mother Teresa a gypsy too? At least one of her grandparents were? I read that someplace years ago. I could be wrong, but it has stuck in my brain.

Maybe? I don't know.

778 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:39:30pm

re: #755 Dark_Falcon

BTW, what was the 'Teacake incident'?

I don't even know what thread it was on, late last week. Search "teacake" as user and you will probably seen the comments, and then you can go through the actual thread if needed.

To complicated to explain the whole thing in a single comment.

779 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:40:09pm

re: #767 avanti

Reading his posts, and some of the links Charles posted, I am still undecided if he was a creationist, or a contrarian or a bit of both. A careful reading seemed to indicate a guy trying to accommodate his faith, with his rational brain. There is no question that he screwed up by engaging the host about his being a Creationist or not. i.e., if a fellow Lizard calls me a Commie, I may reply less politely that if Charles said it. Cogs tone was too confrontational for a guest in Charles home IMHO.

it's not that complicated...you read too much into it as usual

780 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:40:11pm

re: #767 avanti

Reading his posts, and some of the links Charles posted, I am still undecided if he was a creationist, or a contrarian or a bit of both. A careful reading seemed to indicate a guy trying to accommodate his faith, with his rational brain. There is no question that he screwed up by engaging the host about his being a Creationist or not. i.e., if a fellow Lizard calls me a Commie, I may reply less politely that if Charles said it. Cogs tone was too confrontational for a guest in Charles home IMHO.

Agreed. Cognito was indeed a contrarian, and his inability to control that trait has cost him his account.

781 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:40:36pm

re: #774 Thanos

Looking back at those comments by Cog who is normally precise with words makes me support Charles on this 'un. It wasn't cog being contrarian or devil's advocate, it was an attack on Empiricism and purposeful misinterpretation.

Absolutely. Going back through that thread is just a lesson in the well versed rhetoric of Intelligent Design.

782 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:40:43pm

re: #778 Walter L. Newton
Herding cats comes to mind.

783 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:41:26pm

re: #774 Thanos

Looking back at those comments by Cog who is normally precise with words makes me support Charles on this 'un. It wasn't cog being contrarian or devil's advocate, it was an attack on Empiricism and purposeful misinterpretation.

And as I said, there are lots more in that vein.

784 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:41:55pm

re: #773 buzzsawmonkey

And I thank ye kindly for letting me ride the karmic coattails of your quote.

785 Spare O'Lake  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:42:00pm

re: #774 Thanos

Looking back at those comments by Cog who is normally precise with words makes me support Charles on this 'un. It wasn't cog being contrarian or devil's advocate, it was an attack on Empiricism and purposeful misinterpretation.

So it was a kind of death wish.

786 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:42:11pm

re: #766 buzzsawmonkey

And one whose verbal tics and inflections Keith Olbermann, to his everlasting damnation, has appropriated wholesale.

buzzsawmonkey -

If and When Olbermann grows up, he might get a chance to posthumously shine Ed Murrow's shoes.

-S-

787 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:42:43pm
788 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:42:53pm

re: #782 pingjockey

Herding cats comes to mind.

I don't know what that comment means. I'm not being snarky, I just do seem to understand the relation.

789 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:43:06pm

re: #782 pingjockey

Herding cats comes to mind.

Herding cats.

790 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:43:21pm

TCM is showing the "Dam Busters". They are flying Lancaster 4 engine bombers through Scotland, down narrow ass lochs and such. Crazy flying.

791 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:43:21pm
792 MandyManners  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:43:30pm
793 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:43:45pm

re: #778 Walter L. Newton

I don't even know what thread it was on, late last week. Search "teacake" as user and you will probably seen the comments, and then you can go through the actual thread if needed.

To complicated to explain the whole thing in a single comment.

How do you do a user search?

794 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:43:47pm

re: #767 avanti

Reading his posts, and some of the links Charles posted, I am still undecided if he was a creationist, or a contrarian or a bit of both. A careful reading seemed to indicate a guy trying to accommodate his faith, with his rational brain. There is no question that he screwed up by engaging the host about his being a Creationist or not. i.e., if a fellow Lizard calls me a Commie, I may reply less politely that if Charles said it. Cogs tone was too confrontational for a guest in Charles home IMHO.

There is a history with cog..You haven't read cog 1.0 cog 2.0 or cog 3.0..
It's not what he believes in..Really nobody here seriously gives a crap about Cogs belief system. .Its how he was as a poster and the way he acted to many lizards.
Overall..He deserved to get his ass booted..

795 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:43:58pm

re: #788 Walter L. Newton
Trying to explain the Teacake incident in one post.

796 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:44:25pm

re: #793 Dark_Falcon

How do you do a user search?

I don't know. Look under the search function on top right of page.

797 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:44:26pm

Notice that Cognito never did explain what he meant with his put-down of Kathryn Joyce.

798 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:44:56pm

re: #761 Crimsonfisted

Wasn't that a band in the 60's? Had one hit "Breaking My First Wind"?

Another hit of theirs was "You Take My Breath Away".

799 Crimsonfisted  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:45:13pm

re: #777 Gus 802

Maybe? I don't know.

I think so, but I wouldn;t bet the farm on that. It was as I was scrolling through threads and blogs. Checking.....
This site says yes.

NOT betting the farm without definitive research. One site does not a fact make.

800 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:45:29pm

re: #659 Dr. Shalit

Jimmah -

OK - and - WHERE ARE THE REAL TORIES? - ready to fight for liberty as in the olden days? David Cameron is better than Gordon Brown, not quite as good as a President John McCain would have been. Where, Pray Tell.

-S-

And just where are those olden days anyway? Oh yes that's right - the past. Politics in the UK is not as partisan as it used to be. Looking at America right now, I don't think that's a bad thing.

I'm not a tory btw. I voted labour in the past. And I probably will again, because where I live the main priority is to try to get the SNP out.

801 albusteve  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:45:33pm

I bow to all Veterans...
and to those serving at present, I thank you
outski

802 Canoe Train  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:45:35pm

re: #780 Dark_Falcon

Would that make Cognito like Nodrog ?

803 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:45:56pm

Running with the Squirrels

804 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:45:59pm

re: #792 MandyManners

Let us not forget this.
[Link: www.truthnet.org...]

Mandy -

"...Urinal or Arsenal, That is the Question..."

-S-

805 Dr. Shalit  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:47:19pm

re: #800 Jimmah

And just where are those olden days anyway? Oh yes that's right - the past. Politics in the UK is not as partisan as it used to be. Looking at America right now, I don't think that's a bad thing.

I'm not a tory btw. I voted labour in the past. And I probably will again, because where I live the main priority is to try to get the SNP out.

Jimah -

"Gotcha" - SNP is still fighting the "Act of Union."

-S-

806 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:47:29pm

Kathryn Joyce has a blog, by the way:

[Link: kathrynjoyce.com...]

Notice that she has been viciously attacked by fundamentalists.

807 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:47:30pm

re: #795 pingjockey

Trying to explain the Teacake incident in one post.

I can't, that would be like herding cats.

808 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:49:51pm

Here's the comment where Cognito names the "science book" he'd read:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Bill Bryson, a humor writer with no scientific back ground, is where cog got his information. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

809 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:50:48pm

re: #799 Crimsonfisted

I think so, but I wouldn;t bet the farm on that. It was as I was scrolling through threads and blogs. Checking.....
This site says yes.

NOT betting the farm without definitive research. One site does not a fact make.

Could be then.

My landlady is from Albania. Came to the USA because of the war of Serbian agression. Her father was either a builder or architect. Great person.

810 Opilio  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:51:13pm

re: #793 Dark_Falcon

How do you do a user search?

Just click here

811 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:52:15pm

re: #808 Sharmuta

Here's the comment where Cognito names the "science book" he'd read:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Bill Bryson, a humor writer with no scientific back ground, is where cog got his information. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I might do both.

812 Macker  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:53:07pm

USGS Survey Preliminary Data

THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!

813 itellu3times  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:54:11pm

re: #812 Macker

USGS Survey Preliminary Data

THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!

Does that mean it wasn't a nuke?

814 irongrampa  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:54:31pm

re: #790 pingjockey


Wonder if they issued those guys wheelbarrows for their balls? How in hell did they ever do that stuff, with the equipment they had?

815 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:55:31pm

re: #808 Sharmuta

It's a pretty good book; I've read it, but trying to squeeze everything in the history of science into 500 pages means that some things can't be explained in very great detail.

816 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:55:36pm

re: #806 Charles

I read a little about her a while ago. Appears that she is lifting the veil on some fundamentalist misogyny. They no likey, I am sure.

Hell, she's even going after Saddleback.

817 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:55:47pm

I am watching the race ending from Indy today..I was like 2 miles away from see Helio win..He literally slumped in his race car and cried like a little baby..When he spoke to the fans he broke down and just cried his eyes out..
Very rarely in sports do you just see raw emotions like this..I mean he just broke down on national TV....Helio..You are a stud..Congrads

818 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:55:47pm

re: #807 Walter L. Newton
Mwahaha! Happy Memorial Day Walter. Glad to hear you had some decent houses for your production.

819 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:56:59pm
820 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:57:03pm

re: #806 Charles

Kathryn Joyce has a blog, by the way:

[Link: kathrynjoyce.com...]

Notice that she has been viciously attacked by fundamentalists.

Next salvo in the culture wars right here:

[Link: www.religiondispatches.org...]

read the note on Specter, it's somewhat interesting.

821 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:57:06pm

re: #812 Macker

USGS Survey Preliminary Data

THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!

How are you interpretating this. Or I should say, how do you interpretate this?

822 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:57:32pm

Was Cognito banned because he wouldn't confess to being a "creationist"?
And if he had confessed, would he have not been banned?

823 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:58:11pm

re: #802 Canoe Train

Would that make Cognito like Nodrog ?

Yes, it would. Neither Gordon, nor Cognito even advocated violence, or did anything hateful. Both of them got the sack for being so annoying that they finally pushed Charles past his endurance. Well, maybe now they get a blog together. It could be called Conclave of Banned Contrarians.

824 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:04pm

re: #814 irongrampa
They did what they did because it was the right thing to do. We still have folks like that today. It's just that the media and a great majority of the public derides their sacrifices.

825 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:17pm

re: #794 HoosierHoops

There is a history with cog..You haven't read cog 1.0 cog 2.0 or cog 3.0..
It's not what he believes in..Really nobody here seriously gives a crap about Cogs belief system. .Its how he was as a poster and the way he acted to many lizards.
Overall..He deserved to get his ass booted..

Point taken, I am new here and can only speak for my interaction with him for the last few months. I'll say no more on the subject, it's above my pay grade. :)

826 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:27pm

re: #815 jaunte

It's a pretty good book; I've read it, but trying to squeeze everything in the history of science into 500 pages means that some things can't be explained in very great detail.

Haven't read the book, but I wouldn't qualify it as a science book. Maybe a book about science would be a better description.

827 Macker  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:48pm

re: #821 Soona'

How are you interpretating this. Or I should say, how do you interpretate this?

Kim Jong Il took some more Nuke Boost.

828 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:00:12pm

re: #812 Macker

They go boom?

829 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:00:17pm

re: #822 IslandLibertarian
Go piss up a rope!

830 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:00:46pm

re: #808 Sharmuta

Here's the comment where Cognito names the "science book" he'd read:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Bill Bryson, a humor writer with no scientific back ground, is where cog got his information. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Both - that's my reaction too. The Monty Python skit about arguments really does fit!

831 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:00:50pm

re: #829 pingjockey

Go piss up a rope!

why?

832 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:01:05pm

re: #822 IslandLibertarian

Was Cognito banned because he wouldn't confess to being a "creationist"?
And if he had confessed, would he have not been banned?

There are creationists here at LGF that have not been banned.

833 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:01:08pm

re: #826 Sharmuta

Yes, it was really more of a general survey of the history of scientific discovery.

834 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:01:37pm

re: #831 IslandLibertarian
If you have to ask that....

835 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:02:36pm

re: #822 IslandLibertarian

Was Cognito banned because he wouldn't confess to being a "creationist"?
And if he had confessed, would he have not been banned?

No. IMO it's because he was a jerk with a huge ego....among other things.

836 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:02:47pm

re: #822 IslandLibertarian

Was Cognito banned because he wouldn't confess to being a "creationist"?
And if he had confessed, would he have not been banned?

People don't get banned here for saying what they believe. They do get banned for being obnoxious and lying.

837 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:02:49pm
838 Cato the Elder  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:16pm

re: #737 gmsc

Happens. No biggie!

839 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:19pm

re: #831 IslandLibertarian

why?

Don't go there. Charles has already downdinged you. Drop it.

840 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:31pm

re: #837 unrealizedviewpoint

wrong thread, sorry

841 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:48pm

re: #834 pingjockey

If you have to ask that....

I chose to ask.

842 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:04:51pm

re: #841 IslandLibertarian
He was banned for being an asshole, not a creationist.

843 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:04:59pm

re: #515 Killgore Trout

Luckily I'm free of family obligations for a while. Indoor strawberries have to be pollinated by had since I don't have an indoor beehive. I use a paint bush, wear a bee suit and play Berry White albums for full effect. Sexy time!

I think pictures are in order!

844 Red Pencil  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:05:54pm

re: #716 Walter L. Newton

I don't even understand the comment. Bread and Jam, is that some cultural reference I'm missing. Something Simpson realted, i don't watch cartoons.

Tea, a drink with jam and bread...
(the hills are alive... RUN!)

845 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:15pm

The more I've seen of cogs posts, the more inclined I've been to think he's got fundamentalist tendencies.

The other night he was trying to argue that atheist scientists should keep their mouths shut on the topic of 'life death and what is good' because for him, that was the sole preserve of the religious. It apparently didn't occur to him that non believers might have their own views on those topics and they had a perfect right to talk about them. He obviously couldn't see past his own assumptions.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

846 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:27pm

re: #842 pingjockey

thank you,

847 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:07:36pm

re: #846 IslandLibertarian

A relationship that went on much longer than it should have. Like Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie.

Ike and Tina.

848 Digital Display  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:07:50pm

re: #825 avanti

Point taken, I am new here and can only speak for my interaction with him for the last few months. I'll say no more on the subject, it's above my pay grade. :)

You have gained my respect Chief..You have never replied in kind to personal attacks on you..I don't agree with your views but by God You have never disgraced LGF with a post...Or replied in kind...you are ok Chief..
Kind regards...

849 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:08:16pm

re: #822 IslandLibertarian

Was Cognito banned because he wouldn't confess to being a "creationist"?
And if he had confessed, would he have not been banned?

He got banned for playing silly buggers - making provocative statements, then sticking his tongue out when asked to explain them.

850 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:08:45pm

re: #846 IslandLibertarian
you are welcome. I liked to argue with cogs sometimes but today he went over the line and WHACK!

851 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:09:32pm

re: #845 Jimmah

I've been thinking that myself, and after his comment about Kathryn Joyce, it seemed obvious.

852 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:09:39pm

re: #689 Alouette

I am sending my fabulous cheesecake recipe to reine for Cookbook II.

I got it. Yummy.

853 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:11:29pm

Going up!

854 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:14:28pm

re: #805 Dr. Shalit

Jimah -

"Gotcha" - SNP is still fighting the "Act of Union."

-S-

The SNP pander to Islamists; for example their candidate for the Govan constituency is Islamist Osama Saeed, whereas labours candidate for that seat is a moderate, the son of Mohammed Sarwar. Plus Alex Salmond's vehement anti-Nato stance led him to attacking the Bosnian intervention and opposing Kossovo's independence.

855 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:17:54pm

Regarding my note above, expect the rabid kookspiracist SoCons (not the average SoCon) to be blogging about the UN coming to steal children soon.... Also part of the reason the SoCons went Nuclear on Specter:

Homeschoolers are traditionally a stringently independent group, wary that their choice wasn’t always legal and on the lookout for new threats. For however paranoid this may render some followers (some of whom held their noses to defend polygamist followers of Warren Jeffs last year, out of fear that the state might well come for their children next), there have been substantial threats in the past year alone. Homeschooling listservs were buzzing about the treaty before Hoekstra’s bill was proposed, fueled by longstanding concerns about the lack of Constitutional guarantees for homeschooling, as well as recent court cases including a North Carolina mother whose three homeschooled children were ordered to attend public school by a judge handling her divorce (in fact, the case hinged more on the parents’ disagreement over their children’s education than on judicial interference, but such subtleties were lost in the response), and a California order in February 2008 holding that homeschooling parents had to hold teaching credentials in order to educate their children (the ruling was quickly reversed).

Before his party defection last week, Sen. Arlen Specter was being lobbied in early April to support a Senate version of the Parental Rights Amendment—sponsored by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC)—by Pennsylvania homeschooling groups offering voter support in exchange for his more moderate image on the bill. Parentalrights.org Board Member Grover Norquist told the Washington Independent that the amendment could be a particularly popular effort by “the traditional values people” (who Norquist acknowledged are often “seen as trying to impose their values on other people”) to broaden homeschoolers’ singular fear of a “government-knows-best-agenda” into a wider resentment of perceived government paternalism that could affect non-homeschooling parents’ authority as well.

856 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:54pm

re: #848 HoosierHoops

You have gained my respect Chief..You have never replied in kind to personal attacks on you..I don't agree with your views but by God You have never disgraced LGF with a post...Or replied in kind...you are ok Chief..
Kind regards...

Thanks for that, it's nice to have a few Lizards that have my back, even if they dislike my politics. This weekend, of all weekends, we need to remember we are all Americans, no matter our politics.
Both atheists and fundamental Christian's died so we could argue politics with each other.

857 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:25:08pm

re: #663 Soona'

My mom used carbon tetrachloride for all her tough cleaning needs.

My mom did too! Good old "ozone eater" carbon tet. My daddy was a chemistry teacher - I think she got it from the lab.

858 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:27:21pm

re: #857 Catttt

My mom did too! Good old "ozone eater" carbon tet. My daddy was a chemistry teacher - I think she got it from the lab.

We used chemicals back in the 60's in the Navy for casual degreasing that would rate a Hazmat team today.

859 Irenicum  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:28:59pm

re: #580 mojo jojo

Now we know why Japan wants to be able to strike preemptively. We live in scary times indeed.

860 Abu Lahab  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:11:23pm

GoV must be proud now that their 'logo' is featured on the Czech's National Party website, and articles of the Baron appear there. (Come on, they are not Nazis, they just advocate a 'final solution").
Nice friends Spencer and Geller have. You must really try hard to get accepted among such crowd.

Thank you Charles for posting about this disgusting craziness.

861 guftafs  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:21:04pm

re: #9 vxbush

... resistance to the destruction of their countries and their cultures.

This is an exact line from the Nazis, actually, the accusation then being directed at The Jew. And why do the 'counter-jihadis' of GoV feel a need to link up with romo-phobic parties like the Czech National Party--are they the Roma totalitarian Muslims too?

862 LGoPs  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:20:05pm

re: #575 Fenway_Nation

Un-fucking-believable. I guess on some level I shouldn't be surprised that CNN chose to run this UNMITIGATED LOAD OF BULLSHIT on Memorial Day weekend.


FUCK HIM AND FUCK CNN! This fucking piece of shit forefitted his right to 'justice' by whatever definition when he cast his lot with the fucking Taliban.

Double fuck CNN. This bastard wouldn't have a voice without the megaphone those bastards provide him. Shame on them and shame on Ted Turner for creating this anti-American monstrosity.
Next time you have a great business idea Ted, go to Red fucking China or Venezuala and try to get it up and running you bastard.

863 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:33:29pm

re: #647 Charles

I think it's a little sad that some of you swallowed Cognito's BS, but whatever.

i pretty much thought he was an ass from the get go, but figured you kept him around for a reason.

i won't pretend i'm sad to see him gone.

864 Øyvind Strømmen  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:56:05am

re: #50 Thanos

(that's discouting entirely those Frisians tucked in some corner...)

Not that many Frisians in Belgium, except Dutch immigrants, that is. The historical Fryslân lies in the north of the Netherlands and into Germany. In Germany, there are some Saterland Frisians, too.

865 Bloodnok  Mon, May 25, 2009 6:13:19am

re: #661 Sharmuta

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

That's the one. Good find.


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