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1 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:57:00pm
2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:57:07pm

Well, looky there!

3 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:57:33pm

re: #2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, looky there!

Where?

4 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:57:41pm

Many brave souls have died to keep my country and many others safe.
Google cant be bothered with such petty things.
*SPITS*

5 JacksonTn  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:57:42pm

re: #1 Alouette

Here is a Google logo I made.

Allouette ... that is great ...

6 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:58:22pm

Zombie had a page of Google logos made by lizards.

7 Age Of Freedom  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:58:26pm

Took how many years?
Late and very little, but I guess better than the usual giant nothing.

8 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:58:37pm

re: #4 DEZes

Many brave souls have died to keep my country and many others safe.
Google cant be bothered with such petty things.
*SPITS*

What are you talking about, they put the ribbon there, it's a start.

9 pegcity  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:30pm

um Obama's president now remember, so honouring dead soldiers is OK again

10 SteveC  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:36pm

Well.... better late to the pearly gates than early to the gates of hell, I guess. 'Bout damn time, though.

11 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:40pm

re: #8 Walter L. Newton

What are you talking about, they put the ribbon there, it's a start.

Yeah, I see it now, as far from the logo as possible.

12 aRedPhishHead  Sun, May 24, 2009 8:59:42pm

Better, Google. Better.

13 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:00:19pm

re: #7 Age Of Freedom

Took how many years?
Late and very little, but I guess better than the usual giant nothing.

It'll do. They should do more, but for now it'll do.

14 pegcity  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:00:31pm

they couldn't have incorporated the ribbon into the logo

15 jvic  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:00:54pm

As I do with Obama, I'll give Google due credit when they do the right thing.

While remaining duly wary.

16 SteveC  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:00:55pm

re: #2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, looky there!

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

Where?

Here comes Janie with her new boyfriend....

17 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:01:13pm

Don't they have 3 west coast hours to go before Memorial Day?
/

18 Gmac  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:01:15pm

Come on, did you expect anything less from the bastards?

19 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:01:16pm

re: #14 pegcity

they couldn't have incorporated the ribbon into the logo

It usually does, its a start as has been said.

20 Miss Crabtree  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:01:43pm

Don't Google ... Dogpile!
www.dogpile.com

21 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:02:21pm

It's an improvement, I guess. Why couldn't they make the yellow O the ribbon?

22 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:02:34pm

re: #14 pegcity

they couldn't have incorporated the ribbon into the logo

Ya beat me to it.

23 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:07pm

OT, but important North Korean nuke test.

link...

24 SteveC  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:19pm

re: #21 Sharmuta

It's an improvement, I guess. Why couldn't they make the yellow O the ribbon?

The One is not yellow! He is nuanced!

*some people*

25 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:20pm
26 GaijinBiker  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:27pm

Don't let Google off the hook, Charles. They avoided integrating the commemoration into their logo as they do for EVERY other day they recognize. It would have been so easy to make one of the o's in "Google" a yellow ribbon, but instead they buried the ribbon below the search field. This is more insulting than avoiding Memorial Day all together. Before the excuse was that it was too serious a day for lighthearted Google to recognize. Now they're recognizing it but saying it doesn't deserve to be part of a special-day logo. Thanks, Google, but no thanks. Do it right or not at all.

27 Crimsonfisted  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:03:38pm

I did not expect anything. Last year, didn't they celebrate an artist's birthday for Memorial Day? So this is better than previous years.

28 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:04:05pm

Odd how they couldn't be bothered to make any concession to Memorial day or Veteran's Day from.....say.....2002-ish on to 11/11/08.

29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:04:16pm

re: #25 buzzsawmonkey

Did you see #1? Was lovely.

30 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:04:40pm

Now, that wasn't too hard, was it?

31 mattm  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:04:41pm

Take a look at [Link: www.dogpile.com...] for many years Google has said it was too hard to do because of the serious nature of the holiday. DP can do a respectable logo that honors the holiday in a fun manner. I believe they have done it before.

Google, it's a start. But credit is due.

32 Idle Drifter  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:04:54pm

This History Channel had a Band of Brothers marathon, one of the better series made in recent years. I still have to finish John Adams.

33 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:05:16pm

Hate to quibble at a good gesture, but there's a problem here. Memorial Day is to commemorate our fallen - specifically their graves. A yellow ribbon is something you tie around an old oak tree, it's about coming home...

34 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:05:44pm
35 pegcity  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:05:59pm

re: #27 Crimsonfisted

I did not expect anything. Last year, didn't they celebrate an artist's birthday for Memorial Day? So this is better than previous years.

a jew hating artist, Roald Dhal

I think i was the first person to point out he was a freakin nazi, and then LGF went off on him and 2 hours later the logo was gone

36 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:04pm

re: #23 avanti

OT, but important North Korean nuke test.

link...

Everythings fine. The zero will talk to them.

37 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:06pm

re: #33 Thanos

Hate to quibble at a good gesture, but there's a problem here. Memorial Day is to commemorate our fallen - specifically their graves. A yellow ribbon is something you tie around an old oak tree, it's about coming home...

Agreed.

38 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:22pm

I truly believed Google would recognize important days as this once Øbama took office. Again I'd be wrong.

39 American Sabra  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:40pm

Don't they usually have a link on the graphic? Well I guess I shouldn't be so picky.

40 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:06:56pm

re: #16 SteveC

Here comes Janie with her new boyfriend....


Is she really goin' out with him?

41 itellu3times  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:07:37pm

hey Google you can still revise your logo like right now

42 American Sabra  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:07:41pm

re: #35 pegcity

a jew hating artist, Roald Dhal

I think i was the first person to point out he was a freakin nazi, and then LGF went off on him and 2 hours later the logo was gone

You can't imagine how upset I was when I found that out. I had bought my nieces many of his books. Ugh.

43 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:08:15pm

re: #41 itellu3times

hey Google you can still revise your logo like right now

I can hold my breath for about 2 minutes.

44 Yankee Division Son  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:08:43pm

I noticed you can't click on the ribbon for an explanation like every other special logo they do... still it's more than they usually do.

45 Afrocity  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:09:00pm

That was subtle. Where is the shocking logo changed that makes you look twice when you turn on your PC first thing in the morning?
Earlier this week that had two custom logos. For what I don't know. They could have done a lot better than that ribbon.

46 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:09:14pm

They could take the logo I posted in #1 and pretend it is their own, then we could pwn them.

47 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:10:06pm
48 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:10:10pm

re: #35 pegcity

What?! Holy Shit! I didn't know that.

49 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:10:26pm

It'd be very simple to turn the O's into wreaths.

50 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:10:40pm

re: #44 Yankee Division Son

I noticed you can't click on the ribbon for an explanation like every other special logo they do... still it's more than they usually do.

After reading Thanos' post above and some of the other, I think what Google is trying to say, bring the troops home. I don't think this is honoring our fallen soldiers at all. This is more a slap in the face of our fallen soldiers.

Figures.

51 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:10:41pm

re: #45 Afrocity

That was subtle. Where is the shocking logo changed that makes you look twice when you turn on your PC first thing in the morning?
Earlier this week that had two custom logos. For what I don't know. They could have done a lot better than that ribbon.

Its an attempt to appease without defiling their logo.
It borders on insult IMHO.

52 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:11:12pm

re: #45 Afrocity

That was subtle. Where is the shocking logo changed that makes you look twice when you turn on your PC first thing in the morning?
Earlier this week that had two custom logos. For what I don't know. They could have done a lot better than that ribbon.

One was for Ida the fossil.

Nice to know she got a bigger logo than our fallen heros got.

53 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:12:29pm

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

After reading Thanos' post above and some of the other, I think what Google is trying to say, bring the troops home. I don't think this is honoring our fallen soldiers at all. This is more a slap in the face of our fallen soldiers.

Figures.

BINGO.

54 justdanny  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:12:31pm

Fuck Google. Mindless, greedy, myopic fools.

55 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:12:45pm

On their behalf they could be trying and just be dumb about the holiday, I'm not going to assume motive.

56 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:12:50pm

re: #25 buzzsawmonkey

Maybe I'm a grouch, but the yellow ribbon doesn't do it for me.

For one thing, it comes from that damned Tony Orlando song; even if you can stomach him, the song implies he's coming back from prison, not from service. And even if the song is supposed to refer to his having been in the service--it's by no means clear--why the hell can't Google do something with an American flag, a war memorial, a grave decoration--something like that--instead of referring to that damned "waiting for the return" (instead of remembering the fallen) yellow ribbon?

I'm kind of thinking along those lines. Isn't the yellow ribbon a symbol of waiting for the soldier to come home with the understanding that the soldier is still alive. This is Memorial Day. Today marks our commemoration of the soldiers who didn't make it home alive and/or the soldiers whose bodies were never recovered.

57 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:12:55pm

re: #52 Sharmuta

One was for Ida the fossil.

Nice to know she got a bigger logo than our fallen heros got.

This is not for fallen heroes. This is saying bring home the troops.

58 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:02pm
59 MrPaulRevere  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:02pm

When I think of Memorial day, I think of this man: [Link: www.navy.mil...]

60 jaunte  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:07pm

Now all the antiLGF blogs will be forced to like the ribbon logo.

61 irongrampa  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:10pm

That is hypocrisy so thick you can walk on it.

This shit makes me sick.

62 Dan G.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:18pm

Um... I'm not seeing the ribbon, or anything Memorial-like.

63 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:19pm

re: #52 Sharmuta
IIRC, NAt Geo is running a special on that tomorrow night.
The fossil, that is.

64 InfidelRaptor  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:34pm

Well...I'b'damned.

Just about the last dang thing I ever expected to see. And yeah, just about too little too late, but better than nothing I suppose.

It does seem a little cute that it's not in any way incorporated as part of the logo, like most of their holiday designs. Can anybody else thing of any others where they're "separate" like that?

65 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:40pm

re: #58 Iron Fist

Good night, folks. I'm going to hopefully sleep late in the morning :-)

Good night weet dreams

66 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:44pm

re: #63 pingjockey

IIRC, NAt Geo is running a special on that tomorrow night.
The fossil, that is.

The History Channel

67 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:13:58pm

re: #55 Thanos

On their behalf they could be trying and just be dumb about the holiday, I'm not going to assume motive.

Sure, Google is run by a bunch of 16 year olds. Doesn't fly with me.

68 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:14:06pm
69 Dan G.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:14:11pm

Ok. Now it is showing up. Weird.

70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:14:39pm

re: #62 Dan G.

Below the search thingy.

71 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:14:49pm

re: #62 Dan G.

Um... I'm not seeing the ribbon, or anything Memorial-like.

Its not incorporated into the logo as is usually the case.

72 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:14:51pm

re: #66 Sharmuta
Thanks, couldn't remember who it was.

73 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:15:31pm

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

This is not for fallen heroes. This is saying bring home the troops.

I agree. This is a slap at Memorial Day.

74 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:15:34pm

re: #71 DEZes

Its not incorporated into the logo as is usually the case.

No link either.

75 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:16:03pm

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

This is not for fallen heroes. This is saying bring home the troops.

If so, they are making this day (a day of remembrance for our fallen heroes) political.

76 itellu3times  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:16:08pm

re: #55 Thanos

On their behalf they could be trying and just be dumb about the holiday, I'm not going to assume motive.

They could Google it.

77 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:16:10pm

Google didn't do anything for Veteran's Day weekend 2006.

The Simpsons sure did, though.

Yet the CBC- of all networks- did an outstanding job of honoring the fallen Canadian soldiers during the Hockey Night in Canada broadcast less than 24 hours prior to the aforementioned Simpsons episode.

78 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:16:34pm

This is just a sop by google to placate those of us who've raised hell about this before. Doesn't fly with me.

79 justdanny  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:16:35pm

re: #31 mattm
Yes, everyone go look at Dogpile please!

80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:16:50pm

"How owdinawy."
Lily Von Schtupp

81 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:17:46pm

Man, you folks are hard.

I was harder than anyone on Google when they just ignored Memorial Day, but I can't see this as an insult.

Sure, it took them too long, but at least they're doing something for Memorial Day this year. I think we should all take a breath and let it be what it is -- an attempt to commemorate the day -- long overdue maybe, but I for one welcome it.

82 Opilio  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:17:55pm

re: #62 Dan G.

Um... I'm not seeing the ribbon, or anything Memorial-like.

You in the U.S.? You might get a different Google home page in some countries.

83 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:18:27pm

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

Sure, Google is run by a bunch of 16 year olds.

Seems like the US Government is, at least.

84 William  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:18:33pm

Better, but there's no "Memorial Day" search results when clicking on the non-Memorial Day Google logo, as they do for every other day they recognize.

85 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:18:58pm

re: #79 justdanny
That's nice.

86 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:18:58pm

re: #74 Gus 802

No link either.

Its a jab, they could do us all a favor and use Alouette's offering.

87 Yankee Division Son  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:19:34pm

Sullivan Ballou's letter to his wife a week before he and his Rhode Island militia fought in the First Battle of Bull Run.

88 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:19:41pm

re: #81 Charles

Man, you folks are hard.

I was harder than anyone on Google when they just ignored Memorial Day, but I can't see this as an insult.

Sure, it took them too long, but at least they're doing something for Memorial Day this year. I think we should all take a breath and let it be what it is -- an attempt to commemorate the day -- long overdue maybe, but I for one welcome it.

If we can't beat up on google, who can we beat up on?

89 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:19:42pm

re: #81 Charles
Tough crowd Charles!

90 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:19:47pm

re: #81 Charles

Man, you folks are hard.

I was harder than anyone on Google when they just ignored Memorial Day, but I can't see this as an insult.

Sure, it took them too long, but at least they're doing something for Memorial Day this year. I think we should all take a breath and let it be what it is -- an attempt to commemorate the day -- long overdue maybe, but I for one welcome it.

They chose to be partisan about this and Veteran's Day while Bush was in office. I think that should not be forgotten.

91 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:19:57pm

re: #81 Charles

How's that line go?
Oh yeah...
Too little, too late.

92 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:19:57pm

It's about frakken time Google did something patriotic, pro-America. One would think they're traitors most of the time.

93 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:20:09pm

re: #88 Sharmuta

If we can't beat up on google, who can we beat up on?

Because Walter is here, so we can't pick on the French.

94 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:20:52pm

re: #86 DEZes

Its a jab, they could do us all a favor and use Alouette's offering.

I don't see why they don't just dive in the water. After all, Google isn't shy about appeasing to China's totalitarian interests from time to time. Surely if they can compromise with China they can expand that into a little more effort with the Memorial Day logo controversy.

95 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:21:07pm

The fundamental problem though is that the 2 founders Brin & Page are rabid leftists. This is a case of "throwing the bone" rather then any genuine pro-American feeling.

96 Jimmah  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:21:27pm

Lord Rockingham's XI - Hoots Mon

97 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:21:36pm

re: #71 DEZes

Its not incorporated into the logo as is usually the case.

I think you're right about Google. My question is: Why wouldn't they just be respectful?

98 Dan G.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:21:47pm

re: #70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #71 DEZes

When I used the link, nothing, not even below the logo as showed by Charles. But when I directly typed in the address, it was there. I think I was navigating to a cached (on my computer) version.

99 sngnsgt  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:22:11pm

Nice Google, thanks.

100 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:22:13pm

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

Actually that's closer to the truth than you realize. Google is one of the nerdiest co's out there, there staff is amazingly young, and the office is very ... open.

101 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:22:18pm

Yahoo has a nice logo going right now.

[Link: www.yahoo.com...]

102 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:22:23pm

re: #93 Sharmuta

Because Walter is here, so we can't pick on the French.

I used to love Al Bundy's anti-French lines. Funny stuff.

103 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:23:06pm

re: #81 Charles

Man, you folks are hard.

I was harder than anyone on Google when they just ignored Memorial Day, but I can't see this as an insult.

Sure, it took them too long, but at least they're doing something for Memorial Day this year. I think we should all take a breath and let it be what it is -- an attempt to commemorate the day -- long overdue maybe, but I for one welcome it.

Yep, we are, and a lot of that is thanks to you for teaching us how to use critical thinking skills to examine a subject.

And, examining this, I think this is a political statement about the LIVING troops that are spread around the middle east. The yellow ribbon is symbolic of LIVING people, and their return ALIVE.

The ribbon has not one single thing to do with fallen soldiers or any other reference to people who have given their lives for a cause.

104 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:23:44pm

/pimf "there" == "their"

105 justdanny  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:23:54pm

re: #81 Charles

I hate to disagree with you Charles.

It certainly isnt a big issue that a private business doesnt do something it doesnt have to do. Whether or not Elgoog honors what is important to me is their own business. But when they honor stuff that isnt important at all and then try to placate me with an attempt to honor things that are important to me, but not to them, that pisses me off.

106 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:02pm

re: #101 Sharmuta
Those are each services Medal of Honors to the left of the Yahoo logo.

107 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:08pm

re: #103 Walter L. Newton

Yep, we are, and a lot of that is thanks to you for teaching us how to use critical thinking skills to examine a subject.

And, examining this, I think this is a political statement about the LIVING troops that are spread around the middle east. The yellow ribbon is symbolic of LIVING people, and their return ALIVE.

The ribbon has not one single thing to do with fallen soldiers or any other reference to people who have given their lives for a cause.

I wish I had a sock so I could upding you a 2nd time.

108 Idle Drifter  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:09pm

re: #81 Charles

Man, you folks are hard.

I was harder than anyone on Google when they just ignored Memorial Day, but I can't see this as an insult.

Sure, it took them too long, but at least they're doing something for Memorial Day this year. I think we should all take a breath and let it be what it is -- an attempt to commemorate the day -- long overdue maybe, but I for one welcome it.

With or without a Google logo, remembering those who have made the ultimate sacrifice is all that matters.

109 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:14pm

I thought the yellow ribbon has to do with our troops - is that incorrect?

110 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:26pm

re: #93 Sharmuta

Because Walter is here, so we can't pick on the French.

The Frenchies have been pulling their weight in a couple of different theaters......can't begrudge them for that.

111 IslandLibertarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:43pm

I see a lot of those ribbon stickers on cars every day. Lots of military here.
They usually say "Remember the Troops" or "I support the troops".....so Google is maybe trying....but the damned thing is so small.It seems to be a really lazy design choice.
I give it a 4.6.

112 irongrampa  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:47pm

Crap on this. Tomorrow there'll be some time spent at our cemetery to honor in my small way those who gave it all.

Not a large gesture, but sincere as can be.

113 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:24:59pm
114 Afrocity  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:25:05pm

I would not have noticed that the logo was changed unless I looked really hard. At first, I thought the post was being sarcastic, then I saw the little ribbon.

115 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:25:29pm

re: #107 unrealizedviewpoint

I wish I had a sock so I could upding you a 2nd time.

Thanks.

116 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:25:30pm

re: #94 Gus 802

I don't see why they don't just dive in the water. After all, Google isn't shy about appeasing to China's totalitarian interests from time to time. Surely if they can compromise with China they can expand that into a little more effort with the Memorial Day logo controversy.

Maybe its just business, for good or bad.

117 solomonpanting  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:25:36pm

Here are the listed meanings of a yellow ribbon:

-associated with those waiting for the return of a loved one or of military troops who are temporarily unable to come home;
-used at county and state fairs in the United States, where it indicates a fourth-place finish in a contest;
-International Suicide Prevention Program;
-Black Saturday bushfires in Victoria, Australia;
-Testicular Cancer;
-Endometriosis;
-Madeleine McCann

118 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:25:50pm

#113 buzzsawmonkey:

Considering the ultra-leftist Google owners isn't this at least a positive development?

119 Dan G.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:26:03pm

Hey Charles,

I've just entered the queue for a Kindle DX and am curious, is LGF accessible via Kindle? I know that some blogs are.

Thanks.

120 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:26:10pm

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

The Frenchies have been pulling their weight in a couple of different theaters......can't begrudge them for that.

I was just trying to make a joke.

121 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:26:24pm

BTW, has anyone bought a Samsung P3 yet?

122 Mardukhai  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:26:33pm

The yellow ribbon honors prisoners of war, not those lost in action. Google is still being asinine.

And they made it reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally small.

123 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:26:55pm

re: #118 ArrowSmith

#113 buzzsawmonkey:

Considering the ultra-leftist Google owners isn't this at least a positive development?

Not if the ribbon has NOTHING to do with dead fallen people who have given their lives to a cause.

124 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:26:55pm

re: #112 irongrampa

Crap on this. Tomorrow there'll be some time spent at our cemetery to honor in my small way those who gave it all.

Not a large gesture, but sincere as can be.

I'll be taking a trip to one or two memorials depending on how visits from the kids work out tomorrow, I'll probably post some pics.

125 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:27:27pm

Compare the little Yellow ribbon with "IDA".

126 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:27:28pm

re: #118 ArrowSmith
It is a step.

127 Opilio  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:27:41pm

It appears that Google saw fit to honor ANZAC day (April 25, 2009) with a custom logo. (The logo can be found on Google's logo page.) According to Wikipedia,

Anzac Day is a national day of remembrance in Australia and New Zealand, and is commemorated by both countries on 25 April every year to honour members of the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) who fought at Gallipoli in Turkey during World War I. It now more broadly commemorates all those who died and served in military operations for the country.

Sounds a lot like Memorial Day in the U.S.

128 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:27:53pm

re: #123 Walter L. Newton

Not if the ribbon has NOTHING to do with dead fallen people who have given their lives to a cause.

Hey I'm not defending them. It does seem strange with Obama in office, that the Google founders would think there's a need to mark Memorial Day in any fashion. Guilt perhaps?

129 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:27:54pm

Chances are if Charles hadn't posted this thread the little ribbon would have remained Googles little secret.

130 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:28:05pm

re: #120 Sharmuta

I was just trying to make a joke.

You makes zee joke, I makes zee omelet.

131 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:28:25pm

I felt kind of dumb - I stared at the yellow ribbon for a couple of minutes before I thought - OH - a Memorial Day mention by Google - cool! Small, but there.

132 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:28:34pm

re: #119 Dan G.

Hey Charles,

I've just entered the queue for a Kindle DX and am curious, is LGF accessible via Kindle? I know that some blogs are.

Thanks.

Yes, it is ... and the LGF-haters have been busy writing reviews, too:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

133 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:28:46pm

re: #88 Sharmuta

If we can't beat up on google, who can we beat up on?

LOL
one of my best friends from Silly Cone Valley now works for Google.
I'm working for Google!
I know..WTF?
I can't believe I'm working for Google
I know..How is it?
I can't believe I'm working for Google
The emails went on about the same for months...
And yes..Google apparently is an ass kicking place to work..
he is just making a shit load of money over there..

134 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:28:51pm

re: #116 DEZes

Maybe its just business, for good or bad.

Yeah. I wasn't expecting anything from Google on this. They've evolved up to a yellow ribbon which doesn't have anything to with Memorial Day -- symbolically. I assume it has something to do with an ideology regarding the dead and wars from Google.

135 unrealizedviewpoint  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:29:08pm

Chances are none of you lizards will be bringing little yellow ribbons to the cemetery tomorrow either.

136 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:29:19pm

re: #120 Sharmuta

I know.....and I used to be the most gratuitous France-basher around, but it's not as easy now that the mealy-mouthed Chirac is gone and they've been backing our counterterror efforts in Afghanistan and the Horn of Africa.

137 Dan G.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:29:32pm

re: #132 Charles

Thanks. Does purchasing the subscription support you?

138 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:29:43pm

BTW, GMail has been very slow the past few months. When I signed up in 2007 it was blazing fast. So much for their "innovation".

139 justdanny  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:29:49pm

re: #118 ArrowSmith

#113 buzzsawmonkey:

Considering the ultra-leftist Google owners isn't this at least a positive development?

I dont want their feign of a positive development. I want them to keep their creepy leftist swirly headed hands off of my family who have served this country.

140 irongrampa  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:30:07pm

Good night, good people. The thanks given to the fallen by people such as you will be remembered far longer than that stupid yellow ribbon.

141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:30:08pm

Goodnight friends.

142 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:30:37pm

re: #135 unrealizedviewpoint

Chances are none of you lizards will be bringing little yellow ribbons to the cemetery tomorrow either.

Nope, wreaths.

143 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:30:59pm

Thank god for the troops who risk their lives to preserve our freedoms.

144 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:31:09pm

re: #137 Dan G.

Thanks. Does purchasing the subscription support you?

Yes, I get a cut of the subscription price. The haters have driven the rating down, though, and right now it's not worth much.

145 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:31:10pm

re: #130 Walter L. Newton

You makes zee joke, I makes zee omelet.

Fantastique!

146 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:32:07pm

re: #81 Charles

Man, you folks are hard.

I was harder than anyone on Google when they just ignored Memorial Day, but I can't see this as an insult.

Sure, it took them too long, but at least they're doing something for Memorial Day this year. I think we should all take a breath and let it be what it is -- an attempt to commemorate the day -- long overdue maybe, but I for one welcome it.

The line "No good deed goes unpunished" comes to mind. If they do something with the logo, they'd better be careful not to offend someone.

147 2by2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:32:24pm

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey


red or yellow?
famous question being asked of hockey players...........
red? leaving blood on the ice (aka fight) or yellow? (peeing in your pants)
Yep hockey trivia has all the answers.....
on a different note, as much as I like Alouette's (upding) Memorial Day Design for Google, they might not want to have their logo associated with death, blood, brains blown out etc. It's tricky to honor fallen heroes in this type of formal limits.

148 Dan G.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:32:59pm

re: #144 Charles

I'll pony up once it arrives.

149 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:33:29pm

re: #145 Sharmuta

Fantastique!

Do you know a classic French omelet is boring. Eggs, milk, maybe some onion, but nothing special. It's really healthier in the form they make it, since it's not loaded with a lot of things like cheese and fating meats.

And it's more often eaten as lunch, rarely breakfast.

150 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:33:39pm

re: #132 Charles

Yes, it is ... and the LGF-haters have been busy writing reviews, too:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Those losers. Let's see it's from:

Steven Edwards
Chicago, IL USA

Jason Brubaker

T. Lawrence

151 Egregious Philbin  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:33:54pm

Perhaps you all should go look now..its quite different.

And, since tomorrow is Memorial Day, give Google a break.

152 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:34:19pm

re: #148 Dan G.

I'll pony up once it arrives.

As I recall, it's like $1.95 a month, not exactly a deal breaker.

153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:34:31pm

Oh, before I go...If y'all get a second...click the top ten...Read Bin Jammin's post.

That'll get you ready to wake up in the right mindset.

154 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:34:33pm

re: #140 irongrampa

re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

G'nite FBV, irongrampa!

155 Dan G.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:34:46pm

re: #152 avanti

Nope, not bad at all.

156 Egregious Philbin  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:35:08pm

Nevermind, I meant Yahoo...D'oh

Its all the same and its all grot anyway.

157 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:35:25pm

re: #149 Walter L. Newton

Do you know a classic French omelet is boring. Eggs, milk, maybe some onion, but nothing special. It's really healthier in the form they make it, since it's not loaded with a lot of things like cheese and fating meats.

And it's more often eaten as lunch, rarely breakfast.

oh gawd I'm hungry...stop it..*wink*

158 justdanny  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:35:47pm

"...let them eat cake"

159 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:36:22pm

re: #157 HoosierHoops

oh gawd I'm hungry...stop it..*wink*

I'm making myself home sick for France, my second home, which I have not seen in almost three years.

160 MacDuff  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:36:25pm

Well, at least it's something. For the most part, I've found geeks to be somewhat shallow in important matters. One of the reasons I like it here is that Charles is a deep geek; a rare quality.

161 Jimmah  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:36:28pm

I don't see anything amiss with this logo. It's subtle, understated - but to me that's perfectly in keeping with the solemn aspect of the day and conveys respect.

I'm not sure that incorporating it into their logo would have got them any praise either. In that case they would probably have been accused of 'making it all about them' or some such.

Do people think that there was a meeting at google in which they discussed how to mark the day while conveying the minimum possible respect? The way to do that, surely, would have been not to bother at all.

162 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:36:31pm

I always preferred Italy to France.

163 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:36:47pm

re: #162 ArrowSmith

I always preferred Italy to France.

Ok.

164 Dan G.  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:36:52pm

re: #161 Jimmah

I agree.

165 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:37:04pm

re: #149 Walter L. Newton

Do you know a classic French omelet is boring. Eggs, milk, maybe some onion, but nothing special. It's really healthier in the form they make it, since it's not loaded with a lot of things like cheese and fating meats.

And it's more often eaten as lunch, rarely breakfast.

Give me the fat, greasy, heart stopping omelets.

166 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:37:20pm

re: #161 Jimmah

I don't see anything amiss with this logo. It's subtle, understated - but to me that's perfectly in keeping with the solemn aspect of the day and conveys respect.

I'm not sure that incorporating it into their logo would have got them any praise either. In that case they would probably have been accused of 'making it all about them' or some such.

Do people think that there was a meeting at google in which they discussed how to mark the day while conveying the minimum possible respect? The way to do that, surely, would have been not to bother at all.

Except a yellow ribbon has nothing to do with fallen soldiers. Other than that, it's cute.
/

167 pingjockey  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:37:53pm

Goodnight folks!

168 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:38:04pm

re: #159 Walter L. Newton

I'm making myself home sick for France, my second home, which I have not seen in almost three years.

Montreal...Crap..Best food in the America's..
Just like Paris but cuter girls..
/ducks

169 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:38:20pm

re: #165 Soona'

Give me the fat, greasy, heart stopping omelets.

Food police to be taxing them soon. For your own good, of course.

170 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:39:10pm

re: #87 Yankee Division Son

Sullivan Ballou's letter to his wife a week before he and his Rhode Island militia fought in the First Battle of Bull Run.

That always makes me cry.

171 wiffersnapper  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:39:36pm

congrats google. ugh.

172 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:40:12pm

re: #168 HoosierHoops

Montreal...Crap..Best food in the America's..
Just like Paris but cuter girls..
/ducks

Bed time, I'm tired.

173 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:40:38pm

re: #172 Walter L. Newton

Bed time, I'm tired.

weet dreams walter

174 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:40:58pm

re: #161 Jimmah

I don't see anything amiss with this logo. It's subtle, understated - but to me that's perfectly in keeping with the solemn aspect of the day and conveys respect.

I'm not sure that incorporating it into their logo would have got them any praise either. In that case they would probably have been accused of 'making it all about them' or some such.

Do people think that there was a meeting at google in which they discussed how to mark the day while conveying the minimum possible respect? The way to do that, surely, would have been not to bother at all.

I should have waited for you post before agreeing and spared the down dings. I think google had a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't decision to make.

175 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:41:04pm

Read the letter I posted in my Andersonville spinoff, it's just as tear-jerky as the Sullivan Ballou letter.

176 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:41:06pm

re: #106 pingjockey

Those are each services Medal of Honors to the left of the Yahoo logo.

Didn't realize that.....is Congressional MOH a different award/citation?

177 InfidelRaptor  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:41:21pm

Regardless of what Google does, I know I will spend tomorrow contemplating just what all I owe, to the many thousands who have made the ultimate sacrifice for their country, and indeed the free world.

I invite Google to do a more forward and consistent logo next year. G'night, y'all.

178 MrPaulRevere  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:41:23pm

A profile of Holocaust survivor and Medal of Honor recipient, Corporal Tibor Rubin.

179 Idle Drifter  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:41:52pm

Cadence: She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.

180 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:41:57pm

Something changed in the 1960s, before that ALL Americans were patriotic.

181 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:42:08pm

re: #161 Jimmah

Do people think that there was a meeting at google in which they discussed how to mark the day while conveying the minimum possible respect? The way to do that, surely, would have been not to bother at all.

So basically the way they handled both Veteran's Day and Memorial Day while Bush was in the White House.

182 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:43:32pm

re: #177 InfidelRaptor

Regardless of what Google does, I know I will spend tomorrow contemplating just what all I owe, to the many thousands who have made the ultimate sacrifice for their country, and indeed the free world.

I invite Google to do a more forward and consistent logo next year. G'night, y'all.

Google is more dedicated to customized logos commerating artists then our brave troops.

183 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:44:03pm

re: #174 avanti

I should have waited for you post before agreeing and spared the down dings. I think google had a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't decision to make.

Just a waving American flag would have been more appropriate. Or a simple shadow picture of the Iwo Jima memorial. This doesn't cut it.

184 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:44:09pm

re: #174 avanti

I should have waited for you post before agreeing and spared the down dings. I think google had a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't decision to make.

Wrong, this was done do appease, and its working to a point.
If I didnt have to look for the change, it would be different.
Its kept well clear of the logo.

185 MacDuff  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:44:19pm

re: #166 Walter L. Newton

Except a yellow ribbon has nothing to do with fallen soldiers. Other than that, it's cute.
/

The whole yellow ribbon thing has always baffled me. It's a song about a guy in prison and an annoying song as well. I guess some honor is better than none, but I find it dubious and not, as you said, fitting for the occasion.

Why don't they show the yellow ribbon 24/7 to remember those serving? Oh yeah, stupid question.

186 WindHorse  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:46:10pm

let them eat yellow cake....

187 neomexicon  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:46:32pm

I typed this up to share with my teenage peers (ingrates) so i thought, why not put it up on my favorite weblog?:

I type this not to try to convince you into making Memorial Day meaningful, rather than just a day off. I type this to express my gratitude to the brave men who have fought back evil wherever it has reared its ugly head in the world.

America's military has been such a moral weapon. You might find that an oxymoron, but if you're a Christian, remember that the word of God (bible) is called the "double edged sword". Put on the armor of God and fight the good fight! Jihad? hell no, it means; defend what is good, fight what is evil. (Temperance, Abolitionist, Invisible Children movements, etc. etc.)

Whoever utters these words sincerely: "Making war for peace is like fucking for virginity" is a person with a broken moral compass. Would you not impose violence on someone shooting at children in order to have peace? Those who are kind to the cruel will be cruel to the kind. If your local cities needs a police force to maintain the peace, why not the world. Are there not criminals in government too?

War is all hell, I completely agree. The deaths of children, sons, cousins, fathers, and decent people are terrible beyond description. There are things worth fighting against though, mass child abuse, the dehumanization of all women in a country (burkas), genocide.

In this memorial day I honor our forces and the fallen. They have given blood for foreign people in foreign lands. A quality rarer than diamonds in the bleak history of mankind, that's darker than the blackest coal.

To anybody who is/has served in our military: THANK YOU, seven times seventy thank yous, God bless you and God bless America.

188 MacDuff  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:46:49pm

re: #180 ArrowSmith

Something changed in the 1960s, before that ALL Americans were patriotic.

The country started listening to a whiney, infantile bunch of 20 something know it alls.

189 MarineGrunt  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:47:45pm

It's gone.

190 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:48:27pm

re: #183 Soona'

Just a waving American flag would have been more appropriate. Or a simple shadow picture of the Iwo Jima memorial. This doesn't cut it.

OK, if everyone feels that strongly about it, why not have the balls to ding down Charles's comment I just agreed with, just asking ?

191 Yankee Division Son  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:48:31pm

re: #170 Alouette

That always makes me cry.

It's one of the most articulate and powerful writing I've ever seen

192 MarineGrunt  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:49:33pm

Now it's back up.
They playing games or what.

193 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:50:19pm

re: #192 MarineGrunt

Now it's back up.
They playing games or what.

Reading LGF for guidance ? :)

194 astronmr20  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:50:28pm

I had to look at it twice to catch the ribbon.

My first though was "BO is president so it's okay now.." second is that a yellow ribbon is not really an appropriate symbol for this day.

195 Opilio  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:50:47pm

re: #181 Fenway_Nation

So basically the way they handled both Veteran's Day and Memorial Day while Bush was in the White House.

In rummaging a little deeper in the Google Icon archive, I noted that they have used special ANZAC day logos in Australia and New Zealand every year since 2003. I wonder what the difference is?

196 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:50:58pm

re: #190 avanti

OK, if everyone feels that strongly about it, why not have the balls to ding down Charles's comment I just agreed with, just asking ?

Okay. But later, when he's asleep. Maybe tomorrow.
//

197 Randall Gross  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:51:16pm

This reminds me I need to dress up my site as well. See ya all later on .

198 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:51:17pm

re: #195 Opilio

In rummaging a little deeper in the Google Icon archive, I noted that they have used special ANZAC day logos in Australia and New Zealand every year since 2003. I wonder what the difference is?

They're not evil America.

199 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:51:33pm

re: #184 DEZes

Wrong, this was done do appease, and its working to a point.
If I didnt have to look for the change, it would be different.
Its kept well clear of the logo.

If Google had search for "Yellow Ribbon" and gone to Wiki they would have read the following:

A yellow ribbon is a symbol with various meanings, mostly associated with those waiting for the return of a loved one or of military troops who are temporarily unable to come home. It is also sometimes used at county and state fairs in the United States, where it indicates a fourth-place finish in a contest.

I believe the Memorial Day Ribbon would be using an American flag motif.

200 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:51:40pm

re: #196 Soona'

Okay. But later, when he's asleep. Maybe tomorrow.
//

LOL, good plan.

201 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:52:31pm

re: #200 avanti

LOL, good plan.

Good evening Chief! Getting in trouble yet sir?

202 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:53:18pm

It would be too much to expect a proper comemmeration from the ultra-leftist Google owners.

203 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:53:32pm

Dear Google,

Please replace the yellow ribbon with a stars and stripes ribbon. If you need a definition for "stars and stripes" please do not hesitate to use your very own search engine.

Sincerely,

Gus

204 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:53:38pm

re: #201 HoosierHoops

Good evening Chief! Getting in trouble yet sir?

I may have just stepped in some, stand by. BTW, don't sir me, I work for a living.:)

206 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:54:01pm

re: #152 avanti

As I recall, it's like $1.95 a month, not exactly a deal breaker.

$1.99.

I wrote a positive review, as did notutopia.

I went to Amazon.com, my account, personalization, community, public profile, and then clicked "edit" my public profile, and was able to use my lgf nic as the name that shows up on the comment I left. The place where you do it is on the left side, it asks for "name", but it doesn't have to match your real name that you use on your account.

Anyone wanting to write a positive comment and while preserving anonymity can do the same thing.

207 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:54:13pm

re: #146 avanti

The line "No good deed goes unpunished" comes to mind. If they do something with the logo, they'd better be careful not to offend someone.


I have to say that I disagree with you. Although I agree with Charles when he said that they at least are doing something for Memorial Day this year. And that he thinks we should all take a breath and let it be what it is -- an attempt to commemorate the day -- long overdue maybe, but one for which Charles' welcomes it.
But as has been demonstrated Alouette in #1, stated by buzz in his #25 and by others out here, this was clearly a minimalist attempt by Google to commenorate Memorial Day. Compare it to say Dogpile (see MissCrabtree at #20).
In fact, I'm not - given the various interpretations commented upon by many LGFer's out here about the yellow ribbon- as sure as is Charles that it was intended to commenorate Memorial Day.

208 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:54:16pm

re: #132 Charles

Yes, it is ... and the LGF-haters have been busy writing reviews, too:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Wow. You know, if people don't like a thing, why do they keep coming around?

Charles, I just realized what all these people remind me of. The hater reviews on your LGF Kindle page remind me of the reviews of a couple of popular authors who changed their style and really upset some of their readers.

Me - I stop reading a writer if he or she stops entertaining or intriguing me or stops making me go "Oh! Interesting!" I might actually post a critical review, but I've NEVER gone one star - so far, I've not read something bad enough for one star.

The negative reviews are emotional, with little if any content. They are "angry man" reviews. They are not helpful. When I review something, it's not to emotionally dump or laud it. It's to tell people what good I got out of it, or why I felt it was not up to scratch, to help them decide whether to read the book or use the product. It's the difference between saying "it was boring and confusing" and "it was overly plotted and had plot holes," then giving several concrete examples. The reader might have different criteria, but if I am logical, my review will help even those who don't agree with me. Basically, I review to help, not to punch someone out.

These upset readers spend their days one starring. They spend a lot of time obsessively dissing the writers in question, giving them one star reviews on everything, starting discussions on Amazon to make snide remarks and snotty comments that sound like junior high cliquetalk.

They are so angry and obsessed that they go back and give one star reviews to the first books - the ones they loved - telling people not to read them or they'll be sorry! It's a mental aberration. I find it kind of unsettling. No - a lot unsettling.

There's got to be a clinical term for this kind of obsessive behavior.

209 Opilio  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:54:20pm

re: #190 avanti

OK, if everyone feels that strongly about it, why not have the balls to ding down Charles's comment I just agreed with, just asking ?

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Charles

210 2by2  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:54:25pm

re: #186 WindHorse

let them eat yellow cake....

and eat the yellow snow

211 Jimmah  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:54:28pm

re: #166 Walter L. Newton

Except a yellow ribbon has nothing to do with fallen soldiers. Other than that, it's cute.
/

I'm no expert on these traditions, but I'm getting a lot of results on a search for "memorial day"+"yellow ribbon". There seems to be an association in the popular consciousness at least.

example: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

"Memorial Day means more than a yellow ribbon"

212 MacDuff  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:55:16pm

Good night Lizards, unconsciousness is nigh....

213 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:55:16pm

For most Americans, Memorial Day = BBQ and day off.

214 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:55:27pm

re: #204 avanti

I may have just stepped in some, stand by. BTW, don't sir me, I work for a living.:)

LOL
Had a great day at the track Chief...I shook commander Staffords hand..From apollo 10...

215 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:55:33pm

re: #190 avanti

OK, if everyone feels that strongly about it, why not have the balls to ding down Charles's comment I just agreed with, just asking ?

That he thinks we are being hard on Google?
He is right, we are, but thats not a reason to down ding our host.
I have seen to many Google logo's to not see this for what it is.
A half hearted attempt at placating its users at best.

216 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:55:38pm

re: #187 neomexicon

Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent. -Adam Smith

217 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:55:56pm

re: #180 ArrowSmith

Something changed in the 1960s, before that ALL Americans were patriotic.

Not really true. It would be more accurate to say that before the 60's being un-patriotic was considered bad and if you were that way, you suffered for it. That is no longer the case, since open hostility to America is now seen quite often.

218 prime_minister_of_sinister  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:56:34pm

re: #9 pegcity

You know, that thought crossed my mind, too. Usually, the special logo kinks to search results about the special day but the little yellow ribbon doesn't link to anything.

Also, it does appear if you use iGoogle.

219 WindHorse  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:56:38pm

yeah.... BBQ and a day off...... that's what we're all about...

220 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:57:16pm

re: #209 Opilio

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Charles

Yea, but if you down ding a liberal like me too much, you'll hurt my feelings. :)

221 Jimmah  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:57:25pm

re: #208 Catttt

You're right! It's like the wierdos who bother you at parties with boring diatribes about how Rod Stewart 'sold out' after 'Maggie May'.

222 MrPaulRevere  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:58:26pm

The Medal of Honor has been awarded to a Souix for the first time ever. This is the story of Woody Keeble's actions in the Korean War:

223 prime_minister_of_sinister  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:59:01pm

re: #218 prime_minister_of_sinister

Oops! It should say "Also, it doesn't appear if you use iGoogle."

224 Jimmah  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:59:22pm

Bed time for me. Later...:)

225 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:59:46pm

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

Not really true. It would be more accurate to say that before the 60's being un-patriotic was considered bad and if you were that way, you suffered for it. That is no longer the case, since open hostility to America is now seen quite often.

The same disease has infected Western Europe for a long time as well. Maybe it has to do with the overall decline of nationalism.

226 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:59:47pm

re: #161 Jimmah
Yes, I do think there was a concerted effort to minimize their recognition of Memorial Day. In years past they've paid it no attention at all and when asked about it replied that it didn't seem to fit with the "happy nature" of Google which their logo is intended to convey.
And I'm sorry if I piss Charles off here, but the more I read others interpretations and reflect on Memorial and Veteran's days gone by, the less sure I am that Google did intend to commemorate Memorial Day at all - that that yellow ribbon is to symbolize the desire to bring the troops home.
And while I have no quibble with an enterprise which wishes to bring the troops home - I do have a quibble with one that does so on the official day to memorialize those who gave their lives so Google could belittle them.

227 Opilio  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:59:51pm

re: #207 realwest

In fact, I'm not - given the various interpretations commented upon by many LGFer's out here about the yellow ribbon- as sure as is Charles that it was intended to commenorate Memorial Day.

Oh, it is.

I wasn't sure what it was doing there until I right-clicked on it and popped up a properties window which stated that the URL of the icon was:

    http: //www.google.com/images/ribbon_memorial_day.gif

Voila! Wasn't that easy?

228 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 9:59:58pm

NKorea confirms 'successful' nuclear test

North Korea staged a "successful" underground nuclear test on Monday, the communist state's official media said.

South Korea's presidential office said has earlier said that North Korea had appeared to have conducted a nuclear weapons test.

Yeah, but what was the yield?

/they claimed this last time too but it was a "fizzle", much less than one KT, may as well have been conventional explosives

229 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:00:22pm

re: #226 realwest

hey bro!

230 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:01:14pm

re: #226 realwest

Yes, I do think there was a concerted effort to minimize their recognition of Memorial Day. In years past they've paid it no attention at all and when asked about it replied that it didn't seem to fit with the "happy nature" of Google which their logo is intended to convey.
And I'm sorry if I piss Charles off here, but the more I read others interpretations and reflect on Memorial and Veteran's days gone by, the less sure I am that Google did intend to commemorate Memorial Day at all - that that yellow ribbon is to symbolize the desire to bring the troops home.
And while I have no quibble with an enterprise which wishes to bring the troops home - I do have a quibble with one that does so on the official day to memorialize those who gave their lives so Google could belittle them.

You just became my new best friend.

231 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:02:19pm

re: #174 avanti

I should have waited for you post before agreeing and spared the down dings. I think google had a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't decision to make.

How the hell do you figure that avanti? Damned if they do something to recognize Memorial Day? Who would damn them for that?

232 el polacko  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:02:32pm

why would anyone use google ? they put tons of crap on your computer, spy on you, save your info for god knows what reasons, and eventually want you to give up your personal computer completely and just keep all your stuff on their servers.. no thanks.
i've tried all the search engines and always come back to yahoo for the best results... plus they have an appropriate memorial day logo.

233 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:02:39pm
234 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:04:00pm

re: #233 Fenway_Nation

Google rather conveniently rediscovered Veteran's Day after the Used Car Salesman in Chief was elected.

Before that?

Not so much.

Of course St. Obama makes everything alright.

235 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:04:08pm

re: #232 el polacko

why would anyone use google ? they put tons of crap on your computer

/really?

236 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:04:35pm

re: #190 avanti

OK, if everyone feels that strongly about it, why not have the balls to ding down Charles's comment I just agreed with, just asking ?

Long journey begin with single step, grasshopper. Google took a step in the right direction. You don't stick your tongue out at someone who does that - you give them a hand.

237 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:05:11pm

re: #233 Fenway_Nation

Google rather conveniently rediscovered Veteran's Day after the Used Car Salesman in Chief was elected.

Before that?

Not so much.

Maybe the ribbon is for Google's hope that Blinky makes it back from China.

238 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:05:31pm

re: #231 realwest

How the hell do you figure that avanti? Damned if they do something to recognize Memorial Day? Who would damn them for that?

Code Pink might be pissed if they did a decent Memorial Day logo.
;)

239 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:06:05pm

re: #221 Jimmah

You're right! It's like the wierdos who bother you at parties with boring diatribes about how Rod Stewart 'sold out' after 'Maggie May'.

LOL

240 justdanny  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:06:17pm

(RW)

Night lizards.

Lick my toe jam, Elgoog.

241 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:06:20pm

re: #227 Opilio Not as easy as say, showing an American Flag at half mast as part of their logo, instead of expecting people to right click that yellow ribbon.

242 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:06:21pm

A yellow ribbon is a start. Better than nothing.

Approximately 1,310,000 Americans have given their last full measure to purchase and secure the liberty we enjoy.

It's not just Google, it is most Americans. It's an excuse for a 3 day holiday, the beginning of the summer vacation season.

While Lt. Col. McRae isn't an American, his words are eternal.

In Flanders Fields
Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army

In Flanders Fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

The memory of 1,310,000 should merit more than a yellow ribbon, or a barbeque.

Our Liberty and the price that was paid for it, deserves more.

243 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:07:09pm

re: #229 HoosierHoops
Hey hi Hoops, how are you doing?

244 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:07:15pm

I'm watching the Cav's game ..I know the Magic win,,,Is Howard writing his ticket to the Finals? Oh my!

245 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:07:22pm

re: #242 jcm

A million updings.

246 Adrenalyn  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:07:56pm

re: #9 pegcity

um Obama's president now remember, so honouring dead soldiers is OK again

indeed, and North Korea is about to incinerate the 35,000 we have in South Korea (they exploded a bigger nuke today)

how's the media going to blame THAT on Bush

247 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:08:54pm

re: #230 DEZes

You just became my new best friend.


LOL! Well I finally finished my first draft of a comment for Memorial Day for tomorrow - er, later today and if I were you I'd wait to read that before saying I'm your new best friend!

248 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:09:15pm

re: #243 realwest

Hey hi Hoops, how are you doing?

Wonderful my friend...Got back from the track..ahhh a while ago...Been drinking since 10:30am..So I'm in a great mood

249 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:09:42pm

re: #246 Adrenalyn

indeed, and North Korea is about to incinerate the 35,000 we have in South Korea (they exploded a bigger nuke today

Did they?

/I haven't seen any yield estimates so far

250 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:10:21pm

re: #240 justdanny
Hey, good night (justdanny)!

251 Adrenalyn  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:10:30pm

and NO, I do not believe a thank you to google is in order


they should have been doing this long ago

this is shameful of them, if you ask me

252 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:10:55pm

re: #247 realwest

LOL! Well I finally finished my first draft of a comment for Memorial Day for tomorrow - er, later today and if I were you I'd wait to read that before saying I'm your new best friend!

I will take that under advisement, but I have seen your posts for a couple of years now.
I doubt you will insult our fallen.

253 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:11:00pm

They're showing another documentary on 9/11 on NatGeo. Talking about the fighters on Flight 93.

254 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:11:03pm

re: #233 Fenway_Nation

Google rather conveniently rediscovered Veteran's Day after the Used Car Salesman in Chief was elected.

Before that?

Not so much.

That actually may have a lot to do with it, but to me, that is a plus. Perhaps it was poor form of them to withhold such things during President Bush's terms, but I would rather praise what they are doing now than fret over the past. By withholding praise from an action they take now, I am being just as silly as they were - hope that makes sense. :D

255 solomonpanting  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:12:42pm

re: #249 Killian Bundy

Did they?

/I haven't seen any yield estimates so far

News report.

256 DEZes  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:13:27pm

I will sleep safe tonight because of our brave.
Past and present.
Thank you.


Good night Lizards.

257 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:13:30pm

re: #190 avanti

I didn't upding Charles' or downding your comments on the subject. I just think after six or seven years of BS-ing anyone who asks why they don't do anything along those lines to comemmorate the holiday with their stock 'Oh...it's too somber an occasion and we wouldn't want to be seen as trivializing it' response and then magically deciding to come up with something appropriate a week after 0bama was elected, this newfound decision for any sort of recognition for the Armed Forces rings hollow.....very hollow.

258 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:13:42pm

re: #231 realwest

How the hell do you figure that avanti? Damned if they do something to recognize Memorial Day? Who would damn them for that?

Well, we are arguing that the yellow ribbon is inappropriate. It is a pretty solemn occasion to put something in a advertising logo that would please everyone. Even just the ribbon is bringing up the issue that it was missing during some of the Bush years. I just trying to agree with a post that said we were making too much of the issue, but proceed.

259 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:14:16pm

re: #256 DEZes

I will sleep safe tonight because of our brave.
Past and present.
Thank you.

Good night Lizards.

Have a good night DEZes.

260 jvic  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:15:05pm

re: #242 jcm

I was thinking about A.E. Housman on Queen Victoria's jubilee:

1887

From Clee to heaven the beacon burns,
The shires have seen it plain,
From north and south the sign returns
And beacons burn again.

Look left, look right, the hills are bright,
The dales are light between,
Because 'tis fifty years to-night
That God has saved the Queen.

Now, when the flame they watch not towers
About the soil they trod,
Lads, we'll remember friends of ours
Who shared the work with God.

To skies that knit their heartstrings right,
To fields that bred them brave,
The saviours come not home to-night:
Themselves they could not save.

It dawns in Asia, tombstones show
And Shropshire names are read;
And the Nile spills his overflow
Beside the Severn's dead.

We pledge in peace by farm and town
The Queen they served in war,
And fire the beacons up and down
The land they perished for.

"God save the Queen" we living sing,
From height to height 'tis heard;
And with the rest your voices ring,
Lads of the Fifty-third.

Oh, God will save her, fear you not:
Be you the men you've been,
Get you the sons your fathers got,
And God will save the Queen.

261 Adrenalyn  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:15:08pm

re: #254 Catttt

That actually may have a lot to do with it, but to me, that is a plus. Perhaps it was poor form of them to withhold such things during President Bush's terms, but I would rather praise what they are doing now than fret over the past. By withholding praise from an action they take now, I am being just as silly as they were - hope that makes sense. :D


about as much as apologizing to the school bully after he kicks your butt and steals your lunch money for the umpteenth time

just because THIS TIME he did not knock any teeth out


sorry, but I do have to insist this is not good to be magnanimous, generous, or whatever the term is
google is just playing games, still and again

for once, I am rooting for Microsoft in their quest to dislodge google with a new search engine

262 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:15:20pm

re: #242 jcm Hey jcm, great post but I don't think it's most Americans. Not by a long shot. Those 1,310,000 DEAD Americans had families, and friends and some had children and even grandchildren. Memorial Day ought to - and I believe it does - commemorate those who died AFTER leaving the service from combat injuries or illnesses incurred while in a war zone. And I'd wager that those people weren't included in your figures either.
And, of course, how many LIVING VETERANS are there who would never forget to properly observe Memorial Day?

263 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:15:27pm

re: #258 avanti

Well, we are arguing that the yellow ribbon is inappropriate. It is a pretty solemn occasion to put something in a advertising logo that would please everyone. Even just the ribbon is bringing up the issue that it was missing during some of the Bush years. I just trying to agree with a post that said we were making too much of the issue, but proceed.

Lot's of options.......

264 iLikeCandy  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:15:51pm

re: #33 Thanos

Hate to quibble at a good gesture, but there's a problem here. Memorial Day is to commemorate our fallen - specifically their graves. A yellow ribbon is something you tie around an old oak tree, it's about coming home...

Don't apologize. That's exactly what I thought the moment I saw it. Apparently they're too inattentive or indifferent to the meaning of this day to get it right.

265 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:16:09pm

At the end of the day, I don't really care about google logos because I don't really care about google. They're not worthy of the blood that was shed so that they may one day not remember the price of the freedom they take for granted. I would think our Glorious Dead don't mind so much. A logo on a search engine is beneath them, whether it's in good taste or not. They deserve more than any of us could ever give them.

266 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:16:21pm

re: #255 solomonpanting

News report.

/like I said, still no yield estimates, there was an underground expolsion, how big it was or whether it was actually "nuclear" still isn't being reported

267 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:17:33pm

re: #248 HoosierHoops
"Been drinking since 10:30am"?!
Good Lord, Hoops, you must have kidneys of steel or something! And a liver of titanium! LOL!

268 mattm  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:17:58pm

I wonder how many Google Employees even know what Memorial day is officially for, you know remembering the troops that have died to defend our freedoms, not the unofficial start of summer. My guess not too many.

269 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:19:21pm

re: #267 realwest

"Been drinking since 10:30am"?!
Good Lord, Hoops, you must have kidneys of steel or something! And a liver of titanium! LOL!

Raceday..I'm going to bed..Yes I deserve the hang over monday..
It was so much fun..Good Night Lizards....

270 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:19:51pm

re: #18 Gmac

Come on, did you expect anything left from the bastards?

FTFY!

271 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:19:53pm

re: #262 realwest

Hey jcm, great post but I don't think it's most Americans. Not by a long shot. Those 1,310,000 DEAD Americans had families, and friends and some had children and even grandchildren. Memorial Day ought to - and I believe it does - commemorate those who died AFTER leaving the service from combat injuries or illnesses incurred while in a war zone. And I'd wager that those people weren't included in your figures either.
And, of course, how many LIVING VETERANS are there who would never forget to properly observe Memorial Day?

I hope your right.

I look around and see the day being trivialized.

272 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:20:10pm

re: #252 DEZes Ah, no I do not insult our fallen.
Oh and btw, I've been busier than the proverbial one armed paper hanger today and haven't been on LGF much - but Charles put Old Glory on his masthead - even though, iirc, Charles said sometime last year that with Ajax it was more difficult to do. What, Google couldn't even do that?

273 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:20:21pm

re: #261 Adrenalyn

Perhaps they are playing games. I think your bully analogy, however, is off base.

I see them as the geeky, awkward young fellow who drives you nuts or the adolescent who is just clueless and then who does some little thing that is semi-adult and even kind. But then, I seldom see myself as someone to be bullied. I see myself more as a patient adult (who likes hot guys, hee hee).

274 solomonpanting  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:20:32pm

re: #266 Killian Bundy

/like I said, still no yield estimates, there was an underground expolsion, how big it was or whether it was actually "nuclear" still isn't being reported

I think it's still too early for estimates. It might take days, at least. The North Koreans are more secretive than Coca Cola with their recipe.

275 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:20:36pm

re: #264 iLikeCandy

Don't apologize. That's exactly what I thought the moment I saw it. Apparently they're too inattentive or indifferent to the meaning of this day to get it right.

This is kind of like the zero's speech on Veterans' Day where he was commemorating the soldiers killed in action instead of mentioning all veterans still living.

276 zombie  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:21:56pm

re: #6 Alouette

Zombie had a page of Google logos made by lizards.

Yes -- looks like the hullabaloo I created may have eventually paid off:

Google Memorial Day Logo Design Contest

Note what Google said back then:

If we were to commemorate this holiday, we'd want to express reverence; however, as Google's special logos tend to be lighthearted in nature, this would be a particularly challenging design. We wouldn't want to create a graphic that could be interpreted as disrespectful in any way.

And that was their justification for never in the past having a Google logo for Memorial Day. Gee, this year, after two years of heavy criticism, they finally figured out how to mark the holiday! Fancy that.

Charles, in case you think readers may not remember the previous year's hubbub, perhaps mention it in an update? (Link given above.)

277 tyree  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:22:01pm

"Thank you, Google, for finally stepping up and commemorating Memorial Day."

Yeah, what he said. It would be nice to get the truth about why it took so long.

278 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:22:31pm

re: #274 solomonpanting

I think it's still too early for estimates. It might take days, at least. The North Koreans are more secretive than Coca Cola with their recipe.

/trust me, we're already actively "sniffing" for radiation and doing a lot of math

279 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:22:50pm

re: #263 jcm

Lot's of options.......

Google says:

"If we were to commemorate this holiday, we'd want to express reverence; however, as Google's special logos tend to be lighthearted in nature, this would be a particularly challenging design. We wouldn't want to create a graphic that could be interpreted as disrespectful in any way."

280 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:23:22pm

re: #258 avanti Well Charles managed to put up Old Glory on his Masthead today - why couldn't Google do the same thing? AND more importantly avanti, if Google did put up Old Glory - or even some of the other more "obvious" patriotic symbols, WHO WOULD CRITICISE THEM FOR DOING THAT?

281 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:24:27pm

I think there are a lot of folks who take their American birthrights for granted. They fail to understand just how blessed they were to have been born in this country, and thus they don't appreciate the blood that was shed to keep the Republic. If you don't appreciate what you have, you can't appreciate the cost.

There are too many places in the world where thinking for yourself and speaking your mind will land you in prison, or get you killed. Thank God I don't live there, and thank God for the men who died that this land would remain free.

Excuse me if it's cheesy:

282 Adrenalyn  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:24:41pm

re: #273 Catttt

Perhaps they are playing games. I think your bully analogy, however, is off base.

I see them as the geeky, awkward young fellow who drives you nuts or the adolescent who is just clueless and then who does some little thing that is semi-adult and even kind. But then, I seldom see myself as someone to be bullied. I see myself more as a patient adult (who likes hot guys, hee hee).

maybe it is, but I would not ding you down for your opinion, BTW
would never do that unless it was just plain evil or wrong

but I see them as more powerful than a nerdy geek
millions of times a day people see their masthead
and the power of suggesion can be very powerful

that and I just hate the liberal bs they do so "well"
and so consistently

have a good night all that remain, gotta hit the sack

283 Opilio  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:24:50pm

re: #249 Killian Bundy

Did they?

/I haven't seen any yield estimates so far

For what it's worth, the USGS seismic magnitude for the NK 2006 fizzle was 4.2. The preliminary magnitude of 4.7 for this one is more than 3x higher. But there are so many factors involved in transferring the explosion energy into the surrounding rock..., we'll just have to wait and see.

284 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:25:24pm
285 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:25:28pm
286 zombie  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:26:16pm

re: #277 tyree

"Thank you, Google, for finally stepping up and commemorating Memorial Day."

Yeah, what he said. It would be nice to get the truth about why it took so long.

The truth is, they didn't ever want to mark it, but the last two years saw a LOT of heavy criticism toward them on this issue, including hundreds of links to my Google logo page from the leading blogs...and I think they finally felt the sting of public scorn.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

287 Optimizer  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:26:46pm

re: #135 unrealizedviewpoint

Chances are none of you lizards will be bringing little yellow ribbons to the cemetery tomorrow either.

This very short post gets to the heart of the matter, for me. A yellow ribbon - while apparently a military-related symbol (with an unfortunate and kind of perverse origin) - is really NOT a symbol of Memorial Day.

This is, at best, a half-hearted recognition of Memorial Day. It's not in the logo, which is the focus of attention (where even the smallest little thing they like to commemmorate goes), and the symbology focuses on essentially an anti-war message. This tribute is "damaged goods", or at least pretty lame at best. I didn't even notice it, myself, when I pulled up the page.

It's almost like if you flew the US flag below some other banner. It's obviously debatable whether this is a "step forward" (since it's being debated here). Personally, I don't see why anybody would jump for joy that Google actually seems to acknowledge it's Memorial Day (you know, they don't even make it clear that this is what the ribbon is even about!), and it's kind of outrageous that proper recognition of this holiday should require any "steps" at all.

288 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:27:03pm

re: #280 realwest

Well Charles managed to put up Old Glory on his Masthead today - why couldn't Google do the same thing? AND more importantly avanti, if Google did put up Old Glory - or even some of the other more "obvious" patriotic symbols, WHO WOULD CRITICISE THEM FOR DOING THAT?

I'll just shut up now, should have never agreed that it was much ado about a commercial logo.

289 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:27:29pm

I dare you not to sing along.

290 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:27:46pm

re: #279 avanti

Google says:

"If we were to commemorate this holiday, we'd want to express reverence; however, as Google's special logos tend to be lighthearted in nature, this would be a particularly challenging design. We wouldn't want to create a graphic that could be interpreted as disrespectful in any way."

My grandpa had a dairy farm, I know that smell.

And Google bends over for he ChiComs.

291 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:28:14pm

re: #289 Catttt

I was singing along with this

292 2by2  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:29:16pm

re: #279 avanti

Google says:

"If we were to commemorate this holiday, we'd want to express reverence; however, as Google's special logos tend to be lighthearted in nature, this would be a particularly challenging design. We wouldn't want to create a graphic that could be interpreted as disrespectful in any way."

Actually, I can relate to that, a lot of Disneyfication has gone on in our culture, and the Google 'special logos' are part of that process.
After thinking a bit more about it, not really sure whether I want to see a Google Memorial Day logo.
See my #147

293 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:29:23pm

re: #291 Sharmuta

God help me, now I want to listen to Knock Three Times.

294 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:29:36pm

re: #271 jcm

I hope your right.

I look around and see the day being trivialized.


Well I'm afraid I have to agree with that, but I honestly think it's only being trivialized by trivial people. People who think that the tremendous Freedoms we enjoy as Americans are something that we just got lucky enough to be born in America to get are clueless and, IMO, not worth wasting our breath on.

295 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:30:10pm

re: #281 Sharmuta

I think there are a lot of folks who take their American birthrights for granted. They fail to understand just how blessed they were to have been born in this country, and thus they don't appreciate the blood that was shed to keep the Republic. If you don't appreciate what you have, you can't appreciate the cost.

There are too many places in the world where thinking for yourself and speaking your mind will land you in prison, or get you killed. Thank God I don't live there, and thank God for the men who died that this land would remain free.

Excuse me if it's cheesy:

my favorite cheese.....

(one of them, anyway. %-)

296 solomonpanting  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:30:16pm

Report: North Korea test-fires short-range missile


Report: North Korean testing Obama

297 Soona'  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:30:22pm

I'm commented out. Can't do it anymore. Going to bed. G'night all.

298 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:30:24pm

re: #291 Sharmuta

I was singing along with this


[Video]

If it would be a "Yellow Ribbon" I'd be singing along with Mitch Miller's version of "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon."

299 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:31:10pm

re: #298 Gus 802

Catttt's doing the yellow ribbon thing. I'm singing with Lee Greenwood.

300 Fenway_Nation  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:31:12pm

re: #288 avanti

I'll just shut up now.

A Gazillion updings!

301 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:32:05pm

re: #299 Sharmuta

Catttt's doing the yellow ribbon thing. I'm singing with Lee Greenwood.

Ah.

Hey Catt, see #298.

302 patrickafir  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:32:08pm

I dunno... A yellow ribbon signifies something along the lines of "We're waiting for our troops to come home." That's not what Memorial Day is about.

It's just asking so much for a little patriotism these days.

303 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:34:05pm

re: #276 zombie Hey zombie, loved the "alternatives" you made available for Google!
And I also remember that being Googles rationale for not "recognizing" Veterans' Day too.
Sooo - do you think Google used that yellow ribbon as a graphic that couldn't be interpreted as disrespectful in any way?

304 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:34:57pm

re: #283 Opilio

For what it's worth, the USGS seismic magnitude for the NK 2006 fizzle was 4.2. The preliminary magnitude of 4.7 for this one is more than 3x higher. But there are so many factors involved in transferring the explosion energy into the surrounding rock..., we'll just have to wait and see.

Let's just say the Hiroshima bomb was 15KT over half a century ago, the first "successful" nuclear test by North Korea was less than one KT, and anyone serious about nuclear weapons nowadays, measures yield in tens of MT.

/granted North Korea shouldn't even be allowed to experiment in this realm, but I'm not going to start panicking until I see how large this detonation was and if it was even nuclear

305 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:35:31pm

re: #279 avanti Huh, same question to you that I put to zombie in my #303.

306 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:36:09pm

re: #298 Gus 802

If it would be a "Yellow Ribbon" I'd be singing along with Mitch Miller's version of "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon."

and you'd be wrong...... she wore for a trooper in the US Cavalry.

ask John Ford.

307 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:36:18pm

re: #301 Gus 802

But she's not an oak tree! :D

308 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:36:48pm

God Bless America

309 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:37:08pm

re: #306 redc1c4

and you'd be wrong...... she wore for a trooper in the US Cavalry.

ask John Ford.

And John Wayne.

310 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:37:51pm

re: #288 avanti

I'll just shut up now, .

that's the most intelligent thing you've ever posted.....

311 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:38:02pm

Ray Charles- America, The Beautiful

312 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:38:50pm

re: #304 Killian Bundy

Let's just say the Hiroshima bomb was 15KT over half a century ago, the first "successful" nuclear test by North Korea was less than one KT, and anyone serious about nuclear weapons nowadays, measures yield in tens of MT.

/granted North Korea shouldn't even be allowed to experiment in this realm, but I'm not going to start panicking until I see how large this detonation was and if it was even nuclear

The problem I have with a 1kt blast is physics. The basic floor for a explosion is 10-15kt, to go below that level requires a high degree of sophistication in refinement and design of the primary.

A 1kt blast if it's not a fizzle is actually more worrisome.

313 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:38:57pm

God Bless the men & women who have given their ultimate for the freedoms of the USA. And if you have served, many thanks to you.
Have a great Memorial Day, Lizards!

314 Chicken Kiev  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:39:22pm

I think the yellow ribbon sends a liberal-friendly "bring the troops home because all wars suck and no way do soldiers actually want to fight" type of message. The yellow ribbon does NOT honor the heroism of soldiers killed in action per se.

315 avanti  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:40:11pm

re: #305 realwest

Huh, same question to you that I put to zombie in my #303.

Sorry, done with the logo discussion, as promised.

316 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:40:37pm

re: #312 jcm

The problem I have with a 1kt blast is physics. The basic floor for a explosion is 10-15kt, to go below that level requires a high degree of sophistication in refinement and design of the primary.

A 1kt blast if it's not a fizzle is actually more worrisome.

/well the first North Korean test was a fizzle, so relax

317 zombie  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:40:49pm

re: #314 Chicken Kiev

Good point!

318 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:41:18pm

re: #281 Sharmuta
Very well said Sharm - very well indeed. I've lived in a country where a man could be talking to a small group of friends - 5 or 6 and the next night, in the middle of the night, he would be dragged off into a military truck never to be seen or heard from again. I've seen that happen, twice.
I thank God for the brave Troops we have now and remember those who made the "ultimate sacfice" so that we - any one here, could run out into the street and shout at the top of their lungs " I hate Pelosi" (or the political leader of your choice) and NOTHING will happen to them. People do take their personal freedoms waaay to much for granted.

319 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:41:24pm

re: #314 Chicken Kiev

I think the yellow ribbon sends a liberal-friendly "bring the troops home because all wars suck and no way do soldiers actually want to fight" type of message. The yellow ribbon does NOT honor the heroism of soldiers killed in action per se.

That's what Walter said.

320 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:41:36pm

The Google logo isn't meaningless, nor is it meaningfull, IMHO.
It's just a business, run by lefties. A big business, but, still a business.

321 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:42:52pm

re: #318 realwest

Thank you , realwest.

As the keeper of the prayer list, I think our fallen troops should get a spot for remembrance. Could you add them?

322 tradewind  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:43:15pm

Yeah, I'm not convinced that the yellow ribbon is what they purport it to be....
(Or have they commented)?
Bet it really stands for Long Live Yellow Journalism.
Or a secret high-five to the Norks to commemorate their big day...
/only slightly sarc/

323 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:43:22pm

re: #308 Sharmuta

I was going to link my fav, Kate Smith, but I'm linked out.

A favorite vacation memory - Cape May - Sunset Beach. Watching the sun set over the wrecked concrete ship while they play the National Anthem and Kate Smith singing God Bless America. Sigh.

324 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:43:52pm

re: #285 buzzsawmonkey
Thanks for that buzz. I also think his "Tommy" was spot on as well.

325 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:43:55pm

re: #321 Sharmuta

Thank you , realwest.

As the keeper of the prayer list, I think our fallen troops should get a spot for remembrance. Could you add them?

And their families.

326 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:45:40pm

re: #319 Sharmuta

That's what Walter said.

I think it means what we want it to mean. Hence the lack of a link or a mouse-over caption. To some it means one thing, and to some it means another thing. In any case, it means Memorial Day to me.

327 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:46:15pm

re: #318 realwest

Very well said Sharm - very well indeed. I've lived in a country where a man could be talking to a small group of friends - 5 or 6 and the next night, in the middle of the night, he would be dragged off into a military truck never to be seen or heard from again. I've seen that happen, twice.
I thank God for the brave Troops we have now and remember those who made the "ultimate sacfice" so that we - any one here, could run out into the street and shout at the top of their lungs " I hate Pelosi" (or the political leader of your choice) and NOTHING will happen to them. People do take their personal freedoms waaay to much for granted.

leaving out, of course, what would happen at many homes here, should they show up to drag us off in a military truck...... you have a point: we are lucky here in the US, but then again, we make our own luck.

i will not go quietly.

328 tradewind  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:46:20pm

re: #302 patrickafir

I would have bought it had they shown something along the lines of a couple of American flags intertwined among the G, or an eagle with a clutch of arrows.
Yellow ribbon?
Not so much.

329 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:46:29pm

re: #321 Sharmuta
Already did that earlier today! But thank you.

330 ArrowSmith  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:46:55pm

Thank god I live in America.

331 markie  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:47:36pm

Too little too late, Google. It's just not that difficult, if you had the desire.


Anyone else having trouble with slow loads from LGF? The last week or two it's been like being on dialup back in 1996 again. Comcast broadband in Stumptown, no other site acts like this, and I Stumble a lot.

332 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:48:20pm

re: #331 markie

Too little too late, Google. It's just not that difficult, if you had the desire.

Anyone else having trouble with slow loads from LGF? The last week or two it's been like being on dialup back in 1996 again. Comcast broadband in Stumptown, no other site acts like this, and I Stumble a lot.

Clear your cache, for starters.

333 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:48:24pm
334 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:48:31pm

in case some neglected the other link

Only in America

simple, sappy, but i defy you to not be moved......

335 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:49:20pm

re: #286 zombie
"The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Especially when the squeeky wheel is LGF and Zombie".
There, FTFY!

336 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:49:21pm

re: #331 markie

Too little too late, Google. It's just not that difficult, if you had the desire.

Anyone else having trouble with slow loads from LGF? The last week or two it's been like being on dialup back in 1996 again. Comcast broadband in Stumptown, no other site acts like this, and I Stumble a lot.

have you purged you cache recently?

if not, try that.

337 markie  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:49:31pm

re: #332 jcm

Clear your cache, for starters.

No effect. Says it waits for LGF.

338 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:50:09pm

Good evening honcos.

339 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:50:28pm

Remebrance Day - The Last Post

340 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:51:24pm

re: #337 markie

No effect. Says it waits for LGF.

System? Browser?

341 markie  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:51:44pm

If I was paranoid, I'd suspect a Kos Kid works the equipment room at Comcast here...

342 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:52:09pm

And for something a little more light hearted....

There are no cats in America

343 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:52:31pm

re: #302 patrickafir
"It's just asking so much for a little patriotism these days." Not on LGF it isn't.

344 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:53:05pm

re: #337 markie

I had that problem, but it went away, and I'm not sure why. I THINK it might have been a firewall thing, because I messed with my firewall, but I couldn't figure the darn thing out. Really annoying.

345 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:53:35pm

re: #342 Sharmuta

And for something a little more light hearted....

There are no cats in America


I beg to differ.

346 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:54:09pm

re: #341 markie

If I was paranoid, I'd suspect a Kos Kid works the equipment room at Comcast here...

What is your operating system?

347 markie  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:54:15pm

Everything else works like a champ. All the latest tweaks for FF, most everything else loads in way less than 3 seconds...

348 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:54:56pm

re: #341 markie

If I was paranoid, I'd suspect a Kos Kid works the equipment room at Comcast here...

Do you run a firewall, AV, and spyware protection software?

/if so scan, if not download some for free, and When's the last time you defragmented your hard drive?

349 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:55:00pm

re: #295 redc1c4


You say cheese?

350 LGoPs  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:55:04pm

re: #256 DEZes

I will sleep safe tonight because of our brave.
Past and present.
Thank you.


Good night Lizards.

2nd the motion strongly. We sleep safe at night because of the sacrifices of our soldiers not the sacrifices of Google or their 'gallant' struggle to stay respectful.......

351 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:55:47pm

re: #327 redc1c4
I think our "luck" has been made for us by the service of men and women in our Armed Forces throughout our entire existence as a Nation.
And we (even us vets) owe them a debt that can never really be paid.

352 markie  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:56:56pm

XP Pro SP3, all up to date. McAfee AV and FW behind a router. Just this site does it. I suspect a politically-driven bottleneck.

353 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:57:21pm

Taps Buglers at Arlington National Cemetery

354 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:57:28pm

Please rise....

355 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:57:39pm

re: #345 Catttt

LOL!~

356 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:58:15pm

Going to head to bed now. It was a good work day followed by a sad evening here, watching someone get booted when they wouldn't listen. Goodnight, all.

357 Desert Dog  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:58:44pm

re: #356 Dark_Falcon

who got booted?

358 Macker  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:58:57pm

re: #103 Walter L. Newton

Yep, we are, and a lot of that is thanks to you for teaching us how to use critical thinking skills to examine a subject.

And, examining this, I think this is a political statement about the LIVING troops that are spread around the middle east. The yellow ribbon is symbolic of LIVING people, and their return ALIVE.

The ribbon has not one single thing to do with fallen soldiers or any other reference to people who have given their lives for a cause.

If I could give you 1,000 updings I would!

359 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:59:08pm

re: #329 realwest
GACK - I did that yesterday (eastern time) and it will be published later today on the DT Sharm.

360 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:59:28pm

re: #352 markie

XP Pro SP3, all up to date. McAfee AV and FW behind a router. Just this site does it. I suspect a politically-driven bottleneck.

I have Vista. Now that I think about it, when I loaded all the darned MS updates, it stopped. Hmmmm. I think it had something to do with the firewall our router. I also now am connected through a Juniper box, then to a Netgear router.

I am not sure if we have the same root cause, but you might check to see if you have all the updates.

361 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:59:42pm

In honor of our fallen Veterans, this weekend I am reading
Marine Sniper, 93 COnfirmed Kills
By Charles Henderson
I'm a third of the way through.
Easy reading for a tough subject.
God Bless our soldiers!

362 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:59:44pm

re: #357 Desert Dog

who got booted?

Gognito,,,,again.

363 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 10:59:52pm

My Country Tis of Thee

364 markie  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:00:03pm

It's been so bad I haven't gotten on here until now. Logging in took the longest, and just waiting for a post to go takes about a minute. I'm spoiled by broadband, but this is weird.

365 zombie  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:00:08pm

re: #335 realwest

"The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Especially when the squeeky wheel is LGF and Zombie".
There, FTFY!

Well, gotta give credit, it was also because Michelle Malkin and Hot Air linked to it, which led to articles in the L.A. Times, CBS News, etc. etc. A good example of a news story originating in the blogosphere (originated here on an LGF thread, actually, if I remember correctly, and I then reposted the idea as an "official" contest at ztime), then moving up to the MSM and getting disseminated to the mainstream.

366 Desert Dog  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:00:25pm

re: #352 markie

XP Pro SP3, all up to date. McAfee AV and FW behind a router. Just this site does it. I suspect a politically-driven bottleneck.

Have you tried it on another browser? Safari? Chrome? IE? Same problem with those?

367 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:00:29pm

And now I must go get some sleep. Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

368 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:01:08pm

re: #354 Sharmuta

Please rise....


I love that one. I don't care if she was lipsynching - she was awesome that day.

369 Desert Dog  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:01:12pm

re: #362 BignJames

really? Too bad. He must have pissed off the Lizard Master again, eh?

370 Catttt  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:02:02pm

E pluribus unum.

Goodnight, lizards.

371 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:02:03pm

/do not engae the mosque1

372 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:03:46pm

re: #369 Desert Dog

really? Too bad. He must have pissed off the Lizard Master again, eh?


I think Boss was just mildly irritated......Cog didn't have to do too much of his schtick to piss me off, though.

373 Racer X  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:04:08pm

re: #362 BignJames

Gognito,,,,again.

Cog got the boot again? I need to get my computer fixed. Darn thing crashes after about 10 mins on-line.

374 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:04:39pm

re: #360 Catttt
Ooops Cattt! If you automatically download updates from MS you may have downloaded IE8 - gave me all sorts of problems, until I learned how to uninstall it here: [Link: support.microsoft.com...]

375 solomonpanting  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:04:47pm

This may be more for Veterans Day or VJ Day, but I ran across this article

Lone survivor of Enola Gay remembers Hiroshima

376 zombie  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:05:52pm

Heh, look at this, never noticed it at the time -- my contest even got mentioned in the Telegraph, in London:

telegraph.co.uk: Google criticised over Sputnik celebration

"...The response appears unlikely to mollify critics, however. One website, zombietime.com, recently held a Memorial Day logo contest that attracted 250 entries to “show Google that it’s not so hard” to make a respectful one."

Amazing, the power of the Internet.

377 realwest  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:06:07pm

Good night again y'all!

378 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:06:28pm

re: #373 Racer X

Cog got the boot again? I need to get my computer fixed. Darn thing crashes after about 10 mins on-line.

Damn I missed it. He's like a rubber ball.

379 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:07:05pm

US 'gravely concerned' by NKorea nuclear test claim

The United States is "gravely concerned" by North Korea's claim that it had conducted a new underground nuclear test, a State Department official said Monday.


That's nice, I'm sure Kim won't sleep well knowing of our grave concern.

380 Gus  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:07:14pm

Anzac Day Tribute - Amazing Grace & The Last Post

For Anzac Day yet fitting for Memorial Day.

381 Desert Dog  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:08:54pm

re: #379 jcm

US 'gravely concerned' by NKorea nuclear test claim


That's nice, I'm sure Kim won't sleep well knowing of our grave concern.

The Norks are lucky we don't fire off a strongly worded letter with that grave concern!

382 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:09:10pm

re: #373 Racer X

Cog got the boot again? I need to get my computer fixed. Darn thing crashes after about 10 mins on-line.

Last thread......hammer dropped at post #643.

383 LGoPs  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:09:20pm

re: #286 zombie

The truth is, they didn't ever want to mark it, but the last two years saw a LOT of heavy criticism toward them on this issue, including hundreds of links to my Google logo page from the leading blogs...and I think they finally felt the sting of public scorn.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

If scorn is the primary reason Google finally acknowledged Memorial Day, well then...........fuck them.
*spit*

384 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:10:42pm

re: #381 Desert Dog

The Norks are lucky we don't fire off a strongly worded letter with that grave concern!

I think the Norks have strongly worded letter proof bunkers.

Maybe some firm resolve will penetrate.

385 Macker  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:11:25pm

re: #381 Desert Dog

The Norks are lucky we don't fire off a strongly worded letter with that grave concern!

Yeah, remember what happened to Hans Brix:

386 dmjboose  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:11:43pm

it certainly was an interesting choice of years. I'm glad they're doing it, but i wonder what changed? I sure hope they keep doing it in the coming years.

387 BignJames  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:12:09pm

re: #384 jcm

I think the Norks have strongly worded letter proof bunkers.

Maybe some firm resolve will penetrate.

It'll prolly go in the shredder w/the rest of the junk mail.

388 [deleted]  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:12:45pm
389 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:12:51pm

re: #384 jcm

I think the Norks have strongly worded letter proof bunkers.

Maybe some firm resolve will penetrate.

The last firm resolve displayed was Gen. McArther and he was fired.

390 Desert Dog  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:13:17pm

re: #387 BignJames

It'll prolly go in the shredder w/the rest of the junk mail.

I am guessing they hang them up on the wall and laugh their asses off

391 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:13:32pm

Since I really suck at sleep-typing big time, I will say g'nite to all, and sweet dreams!

At my age, I just cannot afford those ugly lines across my forehead when my head hits the keyboard!

392 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:14:10pm

re: #372 BignJames

I think Boss was just mildly irritated......Cog didn't have to do too much of his schtick to piss me off, though.

frag him.

393 patrickafir  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:14:10pm

re: #343 realwest

"It's just asking so much for a little patriotism these days." Not on LGF it isn't.

Aye, that's why I still come. :-)

394 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:15:19pm

re: #391 NY Nana

Since I really suck at sleep-typing big time, I will say g'nite to all, and sweet dreams!

At my age, I just cannot afford those ugly lines across my forehead when my head hits the keyboard!

Good night, Nana. Sweet dreams.

395 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:16:20pm

re: #372 BignJames

I think Boss was just mildly irritated......Cog didn't have to do too much of his schtick to piss me off, though.

The moral of tonight's story is Charles doesn't bluff.

396 Sharmuta  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:16:45pm

re: #391 NY Nana

Good night, {Nana}.

397 2by2  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:17:30pm

G'nite Nana and all .

398 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:17:50pm

re: #389 BatGuano

The last firm resolve displayed was Gen. McArther and he was fired.

Korea, and early lesson in not finishing the [deleted] job.

It always comes back to bite you in ass.

399 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:18:47pm

re: #382 BignJames

Last thread......hammer dropped at post #643.

ain't that a shame?

400 Cheechako  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:18:52pm

A short reminder to all Lizards. Be sure and fly your flag tomorrow.
IIRC half staff until noon and than full staff for the rest of the day.

401 BatGuano  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:19:19pm

re: #398 jcm

Finish it now or deal with it later.

402 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:20:10pm

G'night all.
Plaese remember in your prayers, those that died to keep us free.
Their families have paid, too.
Sleep tight.
And thank our military.

403 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:20:52pm

re: #394 Pvt Bin Jammin

Sweet dreams to you! I am really so darned tired...wicked humidity (do you ever have that problem?;) and it is now close to 2:30 AM here. Too cool to use the A/C, darn it. NY Grampa is about to close my computer down! Harrumph.

/Men!

Hi, ho, hi, ho, it's off to sleep I go.

I feel like Sleepy and Dopey!

404 NY Nana  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:21:26pm

re: #397 2by2

G'nite to you, too!

405 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:22:29pm

re: #401 BatGuano

Finish it now or deal with it later.

North Korea is now uglier than the worst Truman feared if MacArthur had had is way.

406 redc1c4  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:23:13pm

re: #403 NY Nana

Sweet dreams to you! I am really so darned tired...wicked humidity (do you ever have that problem?;) and it is now close to 2:30 AM here. Too cool to use the A/C, darn it. NY Grampa is about to close my computer down! Harrumph.

/Men!

Hi, ho, hi, ho, it's off to sleep I go.

I feel like Sleepy and Dopey!

you should be able to use the AC as a dehumidifier......

we get a few humid/hot days every year: they suck.

407 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:23:16pm

re: #403 NY Nana

Tell NY Grandpa g'nite too.

408 Syrah  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:23:28pm

re: #384 jcm

I think the Norks have strongly worded letter proof bunkers.

Maybe some firm resolve will penetrate.

So Jimmy Carter's little deal with North Korea worked, . . . for the North Koreans.

409 Killian Bundy  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:25:04pm

re: #405 jcm

if MacArthur had had is way.

/that involved nuking China, could have been a twofer or a disaster

410 Racer X  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:25:55pm

re: #405 jcm

North Korea is now uglier than the worst Truman feared if MacArthur had had is way.

I can only imagine what memorial day will be like in 20-30 years. Lets hope more brave Americans don't have to pay the price for freedom while fighting the Norks.

411 LGoPs  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:26:54pm

re: #384 jcm

I think the Norks have strongly worded letter proof bunkers.

Maybe some firm resolve will penetrate.

Yes, but can they withstand the Obama Glare of Disapproval? This is usually reserved for republican or conservative opponents but could easily be targeted at the Norks......

412 Racer X  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:28:50pm
413 LGoPs  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:30:31pm

The Administration that currently occupies the White House is not what our veterans gave their lives for.
May their souls rest in peace in the knowledge that their spirit lives on in at least 48% of us......

414 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:32:44pm

re: #409 Killian Bundy

/that involved nuking China, could have been a twofer or a disaster

Tactical, to deal with the overwhelming manpower the ChiComs had.

No telling how it would have gone, 'cept now we got a psycho with ICBM's and nukes, or really close to it.

I expect Kim's play will to demand reunification with the South on his terms.

415 LGoPs  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:35:41pm

re: #414 jcm

Tactical, to deal with the overwhelming manpower the ChiComs had.

No telling how it would have gone, 'cept now we got a psycho with ICBM's and nukes, or really close to it.

I expect Kim's play will to demand reunification with the South on his terms.

If we had an administration that was worth a shit they'd give the South Koreans Pershing's (or whatever today's equivalent is) and let them determine the ante to Kim's terms.

416 jcm  Sun, May 24, 2009 11:42:06pm

re: #415 LGoPs

If we had an administration that was worth a shit they'd give the South Koreans Pershing's (or whatever today's equivalent is) and let them determine the ante to Kim's terms.

Nork's have something like 18,000 artillery tubes in range of Seoul in hardened shelters. 20 million people under the guns.

Korea is a nightmare.

417 kynna  Mon, May 25, 2009 12:03:17am

Isn't the yellow ribbon a symbol for "come home safely"? I think they don't understand the meaning of Memorial Day.

But it's nice to see them give it a try. Obama was right. The United States' enemies do love us now that he's president! ///

418 Tamron  Mon, May 25, 2009 12:54:33am

re: #381 Desert Dog

The Norks are lucky we don't fire off a strongly worded letter with that grave concern!


They're not worried -- the Dear Leader's gifted scientists perfected an interceptor capable of shoting down Strongly Worded Letters awhile back. Furthermore, 40 years ago the US allowed the Norks to venture out into international waters and capture one of our military surveillance ships (Pueblo, 1968) and also shoot down one of our military surveillance aircraft (USN EC-121M with 31 crewmembers dead, 1969) with no visible repercussions against them.

(The EC-121 shoot-down occurred on the birthday of Kim Il-Sung. It was a secretly-arranged surprise birthday present to daddy from his loving son, Kim Jong-Il.)

Because we restrained ourselves from turning all of North Korea into a barren parking lot in 1969, today's myopic Dear Leader seems convinced that the United States of America is forever helpless against him.

The fool.
.

419 formercorpsman  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:08:42am

I am willing to try and cut them some slack.

But as always, there are some very astute minds posting here. A yellow ribbon would not be my first choice, but hey.

Coming late to the party, Thanos picked up on something with others elaborating as to the potential meaning, or perception behind such a logo.

I think a justifiable argument can be made for them not doing anything for the last 8 years & beyond, and this being Obama's first year they now found some type of patriotic commemorative.

Moreover, my jaundice eye for them makes this suspect considering the follow up by Walter and others.

Memorial Day knows no political party. The headstones don't vote.

I do question their meaning. They have been more than vocal in the past about such things, and to make an extra effort to make a peculiar reference on the backs of those who made the ultimate sacrifice is tasteless.

420 dragonladyalso  Mon, May 25, 2009 5:11:00am

You said:
"On their behalf they could be trying and just be dumb about the holiday, I'm not going to assume motive."

Well, gee, couldn't they just google it?

421 Pupdawg  Mon, May 25, 2009 5:19:10am

That's it? A small yellow ribbon in honor of Memorial Day? Those blokes (ir)responsible for Google are major tree-huggin' hippies!

422 JacksonTn  Mon, May 25, 2009 5:41:12am

re: #203 Gus 802

Dear Google,

Please replace the yellow ribbon with a stars and stripes ribbon. If you need a definition for "stars and stripes" please do not hesitate to use your very own search engine.

Sincerely,

Gus

Gus ... did you see that Google thing Alouette did? I thought it was great ...

423 Shr_Nfr  Mon, May 25, 2009 5:59:48am

Next year they will outsource the design of the logo to Pwesident Obamwa and he will insert a white flag of surrender into it somehow.

424 Kobalt  Mon, May 25, 2009 6:22:23am

wow.
an epic effort.
thanks.
/

425 Canoe Train  Mon, May 25, 2009 6:25:05am

re: #16 SteveC
:Is she really going him ? Is she really going to take him home tonight ? Tonight's the night I go to all the parties down my street."


426 FrogMarch  Mon, May 25, 2009 6:32:48am

that little tiny yellow ribbon?

that's it?

427 norman1905  Mon, May 25, 2009 6:33:32am

Given their previous efforts, you'd think they'd put more effort into it.

428 FrogMarch  Mon, May 25, 2009 6:34:08am

It's very difficult for left-wingers to display love of country and gratitude to those who died for their right to be wealthy capitalists.

429 swamprat  Mon, May 25, 2009 6:50:04am

Now that Bush is gone, it is ok to like America.

I wish they could love America, no matter who was the president, but I will accept this.

This stuff is so transparent, and so shameful, that if I were to ponder it for long, I would become sick.

430 uptight  Mon, May 25, 2009 6:59:56am

I am more disgusted that only see fit to commemorate Memorial Day after Bush has left office.

It transparently betrays the fact that they are driven by political prejudice rather than decency.

Also, remember all those Jihadist videos on youtube? How can a corporation that willingly lets itself be used for enemy propaganda, claim to care about the troops? More to the point, why should anyone believe those creeps?

431 [deleted]  Mon, May 25, 2009 7:01:28am
432 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 7:06:02am

re: #374 realwest

Ooops Cattt! If you automatically download updates from MS you may have downloaded IE8 - gave me all sorts of problems, until I learned how to uninstall it here: [Link: support.microsoft.com...]

I did - they made me - but I haven't used it yet.

By the way, I owe you big time. Your reminding me to clean out the laptop with compressed air stopped it from overheating. Cat hair, dontchaknow.

433 Malleus Dei  Mon, May 25, 2009 7:21:39am

On behalf of absent friends and various parts of my body:

too little, too late.

434 Jimmah  Mon, May 25, 2009 7:28:48am

re: #226 realwest


And I'm sorry if I piss Charles off here,

Oh quit posturing.

but the more I read others interpretations and reflect on Memorial and Veteran's days gone by, the less sure I am that Google did intend to commemorate Memorial Day at all - that that yellow ribbon is to symbolize the desire to bring the troops home. And while I have no quibble with an enterprise which wishes to bring the troops home - I do have a quibble with one that does so on the official day to memorialize those who gave their lives so Google could belittle them.

A quick search shows that this is by no means the first time memorial day has been associated with yellow ribbons. No matter how impressive you find other people's interpretations, they are not the window into google's intentions that you think.

435 Irish Rose  Mon, May 25, 2009 7:43:42am

Dear Google,

Oh behalf of my father, a fearless Naval officer who fought off the Kamikaze at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, transported our troops onto the beaches of Iwo Jima and evacuated wounded troops while under heavy enemy fire, and suffered debilitating injuries in warfare that later on cost him his life... fuck you.

436 Irish Rose  Mon, May 25, 2009 7:47:20am

re: #419 formercorpsman

I am willing to try and cut them some slack.

I'm not.
Which is why I don't use Google adsense on my websites.

437 Jimmah  Mon, May 25, 2009 7:53:59am

re: #55 Thanos

On their behalf they could be trying and just be dumb about the holiday, I'm not going to assume motive.

Now that's a reasonable comment. Like I said, this is not a unique instance of the two being associated. Google does seem to have a thing for ribbons. I remember they has a red ribbon for something - AIDS day? - and they used a black ribbon for the London bombings.

438 yeuanac  Mon, May 25, 2009 8:20:32am

re: #35 pegcity

a jew hating artist, Roald Dhal

I think i was the first person to point out he was a freakin nazi, and then LGF went off on him and 2 hours later the logo was gone

That's really sad and disillusioning...I love his books...

439 RightWriter  Mon, May 25, 2009 8:43:47am

The yellow ribbon symbolizes the hope that loved ones will come home safely.

The people Memorial Day pays tribute to will not be coming home.

Google blew it again.

440 PSGInfinity  Mon, May 25, 2009 9:08:34am

re: #16 SteveC

Here comes Janie with her new boyfriend....

Awesome Joe Jackson ref!

441 katemaclaren  Mon, May 25, 2009 9:43:57am

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

This is not for fallen heroes. This is saying bring home the troops.

VERY ASTUTE OBSERVATION, Walter. It was like an epiphany!
You know, I think they should just use Google's logo with no commemorative cutsies at all. Then, we don't have to look at their "bumper sticker" philosophy--whatever it is and whether we agree or not.

442 katemaclaren  Mon, May 25, 2009 9:48:08am

re: #35 pegcity

a jew hating artist, Roald Dhal

I think i was the first person to point out he was a freakin nazi, and then LGF went off on him and 2 hours later the logo was gone

Roald Dahl was a Jew-hating nazi? I'm really surprised. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? Willy Wonka was a caricature? ...a controlling Jew stereotype big business guy? or one trying to prevent some evil Jew from taking over his successful business? Hmmm. The only thing I can remember about him personally (without a search) is that he was married to Patricia Neal--nursed her through the years following her stroke--then when she recovered--he divorced her.

443 katemaclaren  Mon, May 25, 2009 9:50:59am

re: #435 Irish Rose

Dear Google,

Oh behalf of my father, a fearless Naval officer who fought off the Kamikaze at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, transported our troops onto the beaches of Iwo Jima and evacuated wounded troops while under heavy enemy fire, and suffered debilitating injuries in warfare that later on cost him his life... fuck you.

Our fathers never came home, Rose. Mine was a prisoner of war and died before 1950 of the injuries to his health inflicted by his captors.

444 bryantay  Mon, May 25, 2009 11:23:26am

Every other time Google does something like this the event is incorporated into their logo along with a link to more information. Neither of these are the case here. Pathetic if you ask me.

445 spaceman spiff  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:12:08pm

That is just absolutely disgusting. What happened to "don't be evil"?

446 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:35:20pm

The yellow ribbon is used quite frequently in Memorial Day celebrations.

Is everyone who does this "evil," or just Google?

For example:

[Link: flickr.com...]

447 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:37:08pm

Or the SMC Veterans Association Club? Evil too?

Even before the SMC Veterans Association Club had their event May 27 at the clock tower, club members met on Memorial Day– when most students were sleeping and enjoying their day off – to put up yellow ribbons across campus as a way to raise consciousness regarding Memorial Day.

448 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:39:36pm

Pretty easy to find lots and lots of examples of veterans groups and others using yellow ribbons on Memorial Day. All evil?

449 Adrenalyn  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:43:45pm

re: #446 Charles

The yellow ribbon is used quite frequently in Memorial Day celebrations.

Is everyone who does this "evil," or just Google?

For example:

[Link: flickr.com...]

at the very least, Google
perhaps others if they have displayed the same behavior over the years

450 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:54:13pm

So you're going to call any veterans' groups that have used the yellow ribbon on Memorial Day "evil?" And there are quite a lot of them.

Isn't that lovely.

451 Brigman  Mon, May 25, 2009 5:51:37pm

I check every year.

When I saw the yellow ribbon, I knew those who fought the good fight for them to recognize the day had won.

452 Hawaii69  Tue, May 26, 2009 12:10:38pm

re: #51 DEZes

Its an attempt to appease without defiling their logo.
It borders on insult IMHO.

They "defiled" their logo with WW1 style helmets on
Veterans Day in 2007, and with caps reperesenting the various branches of the service in 2008.

Get over it.

453 Hawaii69  Tue, May 26, 2009 12:16:34pm

re: #441 katemaclaren

VERY ASTUTE OBSERVATION, Walter. It was like an epiphany!
You know, I think they should just use Google's logo with no commemorative cutsies at all. Then, we don't have to look at their "bumper sticker" philosophy--whatever it is and whether we agree or not.

You could refrain from using Google, and you wouldn't have to look at anything.

454 Hawaii69  Tue, May 26, 2009 12:23:10pm

re: #431 taxfreekiller

It is not a good thing to allow such as google to co-op even a yellow ribbon, the case well known they support the yellow coward liar John F. Kerry and "The Obama Problem". No good fruit will fall from a tree with such rotten roots. IMO.


A couple of college students created Google in a friends
garage using a completely different kind of search algorithm in 1996.

10 years later, they bought a $320 million complex to house their operation.

No good fruit? It's a software company. The obsession with them here is outright lunacy

455 Flavia  Tue, May 26, 2009 8:38:16pm

I suppose I will be pilloried, but I actually prefer that they did NOT incorporate the commemoration into the logo, because this is far more dignified than "Sherlock Holmes' Birthday" and more important than "Marry Cassat's Birthday".


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