Thugs Riot in Britain

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In the British town of Luton, masked thugs and skinheads marched to protest Islamic extremism yesterday — and ended up rioting, stoning police, smashing car windshields and shop windows, and attacking at least one Asian man. Edmund Standing has a report at Harry’s Place: How NOT to oppose Al Muhajiroun.

Pro-BNP blogger “Lionheart” (who wrote in January 2008 that I should be “shot” like a “Nazi collaborator” because I spoke up against European fascist groups) was involved with promoting this event.

Also see
Atlas Shrugs Promotes Neo-Nazi British National Party.

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332 comments
1 rightside  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:01:00pm

It always amazes me how some cowards cover their face.

2 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:01:37pm

Anytime Yoots like that feel the need to hide their faces, well ya kinda know they are up to no good!

3 Racer X  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:01:38pm

Idiots.

4 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:02:16pm

I'd wear a mask, too, if that were my skinny-ass chest.

5 rightside  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:02:24pm

re: #2 Nevergiveup

Even hamas and hezbollah. What are they afraid of?

6 Sharmuta  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:02:51pm

Bad craziness on the rise in europe. This will not end well.

7 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:02:54pm

The "shirtless balaclava look" adds that extra little touch of respectability.
//

8 rightside  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:02:58pm

re: #4 MandyManners

lo, would you rather see moobs?

9 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:03:31pm

re: #8 rightside

lo, would you rather see moobs?

Muscles.

10 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:03:38pm

I watched the videos of the protest that Lionheart posted this morning. Nothing too interesting. Towards the end of the 1st clip the crowd starts chanting "fuck 'em all"

11 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:03:58pm

re: #5 rightside

Even hamas and hezbollah. What are they afraid of?

Well in the case of Hamas and Hezbollah, probably a few air to surface missiles?

12 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:04:09pm

One feller's showing us his I.Q..

13 Erik The Red  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:04:16pm

Nothing new here. Move on.

14 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:05:02pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

I watched the videos of the protest that Lionheart posted this morning. Nothing too interesting. Towards the end of the 1st clip the crowd starts chanting "fuck 'em all"

Isn't that a line from a Green Day superhit?

15 [deleted]  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:06:38pm
16 Racer X  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:07:23pm

re: #4 MandyManners

I'd wear a mask, too, if that were my skinny-ass chest.

How stupid is that dude? He is wearing a mask yet the tattoo on his chest is visible.

17 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:07:29pm

re: #14 Spare O'Lake

They were doing it to the tune of one of those football chants. I Think it was originally a Souza march, I forget the name.

18 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:08:52pm

Such charming little shits.
/

19 HAL2010  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:09:59pm

Absolute scum.

I have family in Calderdale council where the BNP have three seats, and have seen some of the leaflets these people push through the doors, its vile.

Not only are the BNP absolutely useless councilors (see here and here) but above all else:
a neo-nazi in a suit is still a goddamn neo-nazi.

For a quick look at the BNP I would recommend this website.

There is nothing British about the BNP.

20 kynna  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:10:01pm

This is exactly what Glenn Reynolds has been saying will happen. It's so obvious. The government continues to reward bad behavior from some, and then others get the idea that that's what works.

Obviously this little pigs (love the ones with the masks looking exactly like the people they're supposedly protesting) are sick enough to get the message that the government is cowardly and will cave to barbarian pressure.

This kind of thing isn't going to stop any more than the Islamic extremism is going to stop. The gits are trying to grab their slice of the pie.

And reasonable people get to suffer from the efforts of all sides.

21 Cato the Elder  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:10:08pm

Yutes will be yutes.

22 Sharmuta  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:10:21pm

Wonderful- they attack the police. That's exactly the problem in europe- no respect for the rule of law and law enforcement. Kind of hard to get the law on your side and start enforcing civil conduct if you're attacking the very people whose job it is to defend the civil rights of the populace.

They don't want law and order- they want anarchy.

23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:10:36pm

Dang. Some flat out bad people out there in this world.

24 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:10:53pm

re: #21 Cato the Elder

Yutes will be yutes.

Maybe they got kicked out of the local soccer match?

25 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:10:54pm

Those index fingers extended is just another way of substituting the nazi salute.
What charming little f*cks.

26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:11:17pm

re: #19 HAL2010

HAL? You're from the UK? Right?

27 Bob Dillon  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:11:32pm

I lived in England for a while in 72 - the local thugs - when not going amok at sports events had their own sport called Paki Pounding - sounds like the only thing that's changed is the generation.

28 Erik The Red  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:11:43pm

re: #22 Sharmuta

Wonderful- they attack the police. That's exactly the problem in europe- no respect for the rule of law and law enforcement. Kind of hard to get the law on your side and start enforcing civil conduct if you're attacking the very people whose job it is to defend the civil rights of the populace.

They don't want law and order- they want anarchy.

If I had them 100 up dings.

29 Cato the Elder  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:11:45pm

re: #24 Nevergiveup

Maybe they got kicked out of the local soccer match?

Maybe they were too drunk for football?

Is that possible?

30 kynna  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:11:57pm

I wonder if the guy with the text tattoo on his upper chest thinks that mask is going to hide his identity.

Morons.

31 pingjockey  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:12:02pm

re: #24 Nevergiveup

Check this shit out....
[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]

32 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:12:36pm

re: #25 callahan23

Those index fingers extended is just another way of substituting the nazi salute.
What charming little f*cks.

Sorry forgot the
/ sarc tag

33 HAL2010  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:12:37pm

re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah, from Yorkshire. And Space.

34 opnion  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:12:38pm

Nasty little punks.

35 summergurl  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:13:05pm

This idiots should be hauled off to jail. Imbeciles.
These are extremists and should be denounced.

///And I am sure everyone on all sides will denounce their own when it becomes hateful non tolerant extremism.

36 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:13:16pm

re: #16 Racer X

How stupid is that dude? He is wearing a mask yet the tattoo on his chest is visible.

I thought that was hair.

37 abolitionist  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:13:28pm

A bit of history on thuggery: How the British Broke the Thugs of India

38 pingjockey  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:13:59pm

How long before these punks and the "Asian" punks are into brawls/warfare in the streets?

39 sandbox  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:14:43pm

Banning public mask wearing (including the veil) is good public policy and should be once again enforced.

40 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:14:57pm

re: #31 pingjockey

Check this shit out....
[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]

Yeah i saw that. I wonder what Mitchell thinks of that?

41 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:15:29pm

From the pics and videos you can tell the crowd was virtually all young men in their early 20's. No adults and no women. Certainly all white.

42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:15:34pm

re: #33 HAL2010

Yeah, from Yorkshire. And Space.

I'd prefer Space. (Nothing personal).

43 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:15:41pm

re: #19 HAL2010

Brian Turner (Burnley). Was convicted of attacking his wife and a police officer whilst a councillor yet the BNP refused to disown him. In fact they even defended him by issuing a statement saying: “we are not in the business of persecuting our members because the state considers someone guilty.”

BNP: Wife-beating is okay.

44 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:16:31pm

re: #22 Sharmuta

Wonderful- they attack the police. That's exactly the problem in europe- no respect for the rule of law and law enforcement. Kind of hard to get the law on your side and start enforcing civil conduct if you're attacking the very people whose job it is to defend the civil rights of the populace.

They don't want law and order- they want anarchy.

Check out my No. 43.

45 Bob Dillon  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:16:33pm

re: #38 pingjockey

How long before these punks and the "Asian" punks are into brawls/warfare in the streets?

See my #27 been going on (low level) for decades.

46 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:16:33pm

Why do all those assholes look barely pubescent?

This is manhood?

47 kynna  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:16:35pm

re: #32 callahan23

Sorry forgot the
/ sarc tag

I thought you really found them charming. ;D

48 pingjockey  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:16:58pm

re: #41 Killgore Trout
IIRC, the unemployment rate for the under 25 age group is pushing 20%. Lots of frustrated youts with nothing to do except rage.

49 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:17:15pm

re: #46 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Why do all those assholes look barely pubescent?

This is manhood?

Hormones mixed with a low IQ?

50 HAL2010  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:17:24pm

Almost forgot, this is quite amusing, in its own sort of way.

Turns out that BNP voters don't exist and their leaflet is a lie

And so, it transpires, are the images of the other ‘BNP voters’ on the flyer, none of whom, it seems, are real BNP voters. And, (could this be even more embarrassing?), most of whom appear not to be “typical Britons”. Or any kind of Briton at all.

The doctor, “voting BNP because I see what immigration has done to the NHS”, was photographed in America, where, of course, they don't even have an NHS equivalent yet.

The loving “mother and wife” who wants “our taxes invested in education and job creation” was photographed in the States too, and comes with the title ‘Love my Mommy’.

And, if it could possibly get any more embarrassing, a Scots Guardsman - possibly the only Brit to figure in the leaflet - has come out to publicly condemn them as "scumbags" saying "I'd never vote for them in a million years."

51 pingjockey  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:17:44pm

re: #45 Bobibutu
I figured that. I meant an escalation.

52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:17:50pm

re: #49 Nevergiveup

Hormones mixed with a low IQ?

And alcohol.

53 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:18:39pm

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And alcohol.

Hellav a combination ha?

54 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:18:43pm

I will never support Nazis.
Neither will I ever support Islamofascists.
When will the vast silent majority of decent, moderate, tolerant people caught in the crossfire between these two groups finally mobilize?

55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:19:30pm

re: #53 Nevergiveup

Hellav a combination ha?

Worse? Testosterone, alcohol, and gasoline.

56 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:19:36pm

re: #46 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Why do all those assholes look barely pubescent?

This is manhood?

Its not often we get to see wet behind the ears primates.

57 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:20:22pm

re: #54 Spare O'Lake

I will never support Nazis.
Neither will I ever support Islamofascists.
When will the vast silent majority of decent, moderate, tolerant people caught in the crossfire between these two groups finally mobilize?

Well since no one in a position of power and responsibility will admit we are at War with Islamofascists......?

58 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:20:22pm

re: #47 kynna

I thought you really found them charming. ;D

I am certain almost all Lizards understand irony yet for those with an irony detection disorder I added the sarc tag as an afterthought.

59 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:20:58pm

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Worse? Testosterone, alcohol, and gasoline.

That's a French recipe right?

60 pingjockey  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:21:12pm

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A very vicious cocktail.

61 Perplexed  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:21:18pm

Parisian muslim thugs and British skin heads? Opposite sides of the same coin.

62 Bob Dillon  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:21:36pm

re: #51 pingjockey

I figured that. I meant an escalation.

If Europe and Scandinavia are any gage - anytime now.

63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:21:37pm

re: #59 Nevergiveup

That's a French recipe right?

Just a recipe for disaster.

BTW...Love the avatar!

Thank you for your service.

64 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:21:54pm
Adrian Marsden (Calderdale). The absent councillor. In the six months to March 2006, Marsden has attended just three council meetings and his work record for his ward constituents has been even worse. However, he managed to find the time and strength to act as a bodyguard to BNP leader Nick Griffin during the recent court case in Leeds. But then again, what can you expect from a man with several convictions and a long history with the violent neo-nazi group Combat 18.
65 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:21:55pm

re: #49 Nevergiveup

Hormones mixed with a low IQ?

Also probably with "nothing to do".
Pathetic.
I wonder how many are living off someone else (parents or the dole)?

66 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:22:21pm

re: #60 pingjockey

A very vicious cocktail.

Did someone say cocktails? OK another beer for me mates!

67 Kenneth  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:22:22pm

One has to marvel at the irony of it all:

The Nazi imitator, "Lionheart", says Charles should be shot as a "Nazi collaborator" for pointing out that "Lionheart" and his ilk are indeed Neo-Nazis.

Ouch, that kind of intense cognitive dissonance hurts the brain just typing it!

68 Capitalistincharge  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:23:08pm

The world seems to be sinking. Ten years ago this type of group would have been so villified they wouldn't have enjoyed the power the BNP seems to be gaining.

69 pingjockey  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:23:25pm

re: #62 Bobibutu
I really feel for the LEOs over there. The gov't tells them to be nice to the youts and the vermin attack. Then if the cops do go after the vermin they get pilloried in the press.

70 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:23:32pm

re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just a recipe for disaster.

BTW...Love the avatar!

Thank you for your service.

You requested we put out service branch on for Memorial day right? Now I gotta find my Winston's avatar for tomorrow?

71 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:24:06pm

re: #48 pingjockey

IIRC, the unemployment rate for the under 25 age group is pushing 20%. Lots of frustrated youts with nothing to do except rage.

Which means that over 80% of that age group has found employment.

72 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:24:32pm

re: #71 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Which means that over 80% of that age group has found employment.

Or were sleeping last nights off still?

73 HAL2010  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:24:43pm

re: #42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd prefer Space. (Nothing personal).

Pah!

At least we have the best fish 'n chips in Britain.

74 kynna  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:25:58pm

re: #58 callahan23

I am certain almost all Lizards understand irony yet for those with an irony detection disorder I added the sarc tag as an afterthought.

There are some "irony challenged" individuals out there. Better safe than sorry, eh?

75 pingjockey  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:25:58pm

re: #71 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Yep. However you still have that hardcore group that probably doesn't want to work but blames everyone else for their troubles and ends up with these nutjob groups.

76 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:26:08pm

re: #4 MandyManners

I'd wear a mask, too, if that were my skinny-ass chest.

Lets see your chest as comparison !


(((I am SO glad she doesn't know where i live!)))

///

77 Sharmuta  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:26:17pm

Irony is protesting the lack of law and order by violating law and order.

Stupid nazis.

78 brookly red  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:26:30pm

re: #68 Capitalistincharge

The world seems to be sinking. Ten years ago this type of group would have been so villified they wouldn't have enjoyed the power the BNP seems to be gaining.

The state of the economy has a lot do do with the timing, money changes everything.

79 Perplexed  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:27:02pm

re: #54 Spare O'Lake

I will never support Nazis.
Neither will I ever support Islamofascists.
When will the vast silent majority of decent, moderate, tolerant people caught in the crossfire between these two groups finally mobilize?

Good question, but when the silent majority mobilizes you're going to see a whole lot of unpleasantness.

80 pingjockey  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:27:11pm

re: #77 Sharmuta
Is there any other kind? :)

81 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:27:16pm

re: #73 HAL2010

Pah!

At least we have the best fish 'n chips in Britain.

Are you guys still floundering and spuddering along?

*diving under the desk*

82 pingjockey  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:27:42pm

BBL!

83 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:28:03pm

re: #80 pingjockey

Is there any other kind? :)

Dead nazis?

84 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:28:15pm

re: #75 pingjockey

Yep. However you still have that hardcore group that probably doesn't want to work but blames everyone else for their troubles and ends up with these nutjob groups.

*doffs cap* ... up-ding
Precisely!

85 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:29:12pm

Several "anti-jihad" blogs are applauding this mob of skinheads. Here's one:

[Link: torchlight.typepad.com...]

86 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:29:17pm

Venezuela and Bolivia are supplying Iran with uranium for its nuclear program, according to a secret Israeli government report obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Hey Obama more good news.

87 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:29:30pm

re: #83 Nevergiveup

Dead nazis?

Isn't that the only good kind?

88 Bob Dillon  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:29:34pm

re: #54 Spare O'Lake

I will never support Nazis.
Neither will I ever support Islamofascists.
When will the vast silent majority of decent, moderate, tolerant people caught in the crossfire between these two groups finally mobilize?

Sorry to be so pessimistic ... probably never. Our police are overwhelmed and our politicians have no spine.

We lurch from crisis to crisis or throw money at programs that do not work and just line the politicos friends pockets.

Our system has too many corrupt persons from local to federal levels to clean out all at once.

OTOH - when we each say "If it's going to be it's up to me" and start taking ANY action - then maybe someday.

89 Jim in Virginia  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:30:06pm

re: #76 sattv4u2THWACK!

90 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:30:06pm

re: #85 Charles

Several "anti-jihad" blogs are applauding this mob of skinheads. Here's one:

[Link: torchlight.typepad.com...]

I wonder what S & M shop they bought all them masks at?

91 Erik The Red  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:30:06pm

re: #77 Sharmuta

Irony is protesting the lack of law and order by violating law and order.
Stupid nazis.

I don't think you can call the yobs in the UK Nazi's. Stupid, dumb, naive maybe. Or just plain asreholes. Miss guided, uneducated may bea better term.

92 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:30:07pm

re: #74 kynna

There are some "irony challenged" individuals out there. Better safe than sorry, eh?

Irony-Detection-Disorder might also be higher with those watching our comments from outside.
So you are right in saying better safe than sorry.

93 [deleted]  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:30:22pm
94 Sharmuta  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:30:24pm

re: #85 Charles

Several "anti-jihad" blogs are applauding this mob of skinheads. Here's one:

[Link: torchlight.typepad.com...]

I don't think Ms Ali or Mr Van Gogh would appreciate being on the side bar of a blogger who supports these nazis.

95 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:30:41pm

re: #85 Charles

Several "anti-jihad" blogs are applauding this mob of skinheads. Here's one:

[Link: torchlight.typepad.com...]

"This story, this glorious story ..."

/oh *BARF*

96 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:30:42pm

re: #87 MandyManners

Isn't that the only good kind?

In my book yes. But being Jewish I'm biased

97 Sharmuta  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:30:57pm

re: #91 Erik The Red

I don't think you can call the yobs in the UK Nazi's. Stupid, dumb, naive maybe. Or just plain asreholes. Miss guided, uneducated may bea better term.

They're racist fascists, so yeah- I think "nazi" fits.

98 Bob Dillon  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:32:16pm

re: #69 pingjockey

I really feel for the LEOs over there. The gov't tells them to be nice to the youts and the vermin attack. Then if the cops do go after the vermin they get pilloried in the press.

Same here, sadly - same here (SF Bay Area) and many others.

99 Sharmuta  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:32:37pm

re: #93 Iron Fist

I get the impression that this is exactly why the so-called "Counter Jihad" really wants the neo-Nazis around. They want to be able to call on a group of hard-core street fighters when they need them, and then think that they can put them back in their cage when they are done with their approved duties. In truth, this strategy never works as planned. Sooner or later, you will find your erstwhile allies a burden (at best), or a direct threat to you (at worst).

It looks like they are going to have to learn this lesson the hard way.

They absolutely think they can control their Brute Squad.

100 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:32:38pm

re: #85 Charles

It's such a bummer that Ayyan Hirsi Ali is on the sidebar with the rest of that crap. Where is she lately? I'd figure she'd be one of the loudest voices opposing this stuff.

101 Jim in Virginia  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:32:43pm

re: #93 Iron Fist
Hitlet took care of the Brownshirts once he no longer needed them. It also stopped Roehm from taking care of Hitler.

102 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:33:03pm

U.N. Chief Sees 'Violation' if North Korea Nuclear Test Confirmed

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

And what's amazing he saw that even with is head up his ass?

103 Charles Johnson  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:33:08pm

Baron Bodissey at Gates of Vienna is now openly supporting the BNP, by the way.

104 Former Belgian  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:33:38pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

Bad craziness on the rise in europe. This will not end well.

I am reminded of what Mark Steyn was predicting --- that before Europe would succumb to Eurabia we would se the re-emergence of Europe's "native" dark side.

105 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:33:42pm

re: #95 pre-Boomer Marine brat

That's pretty much the same thing Crazy Pam wrote when she posted video of the first Luton Riot.

106 HAL2010  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:33:52pm

re: #81 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Are you guys still floundering and spuddering along?

*diving under the desk*

You are lucky you are not in suspended animation aboard my ship!

107 Erik The Red  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:34:06pm

re: #97 Sharmuta

They're racist fascists, so yeah- I think "nazi" fits.

Sham. We are on the same page. The youth of today are dumb fucks. Who eat and believe the MFM. How do we change them. I believe Europe is lost.

108 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:34:38pm

re: #103 Charles

Baron Bodissey at Gates of Vienna is now openly supporting the BNP, by the way.

Thats become one of the the ugliest bandwagons in history

109 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:34:46pm

re: #101 Jim in Virginia

Hitlet took care of the Brownshirts once he no longer needed them. It also stopped Roehm from taking care of Hitler.

Yeah, I am still not sure Roehm would have directly threatened Hitler, he was to interested in "other men".

110 [deleted]  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:34:55pm
111 solomonpanting  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:35:34pm

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And alcohol.

Banner-waving drunks, some disguised under balaclavas, trapped terrified Asian staff inside a restaurant.

"You got alcohol? Whaddaya want me to do?"

112 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:35:48pm

re: #107 Erik The Red

Sham. We are on the same page. The youth of today are dumb fucks. Who eat and believe the MFM. How do we change them. I believe Europe is lost.

I need to get aaauuut.
/ Schwarzenegger impersonation off

113 _RememberTonyC  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:36:25pm

"Rage Boys" ... they're not just jihadis anymore.

114 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:37:25pm

re: #106 HAL2010

You are lucky you are not in suspended animation aboard my ship!

*crawling futher under desk, covering head*

/heh ... "suspendedly animated" at the hands of an insulted Brit isn't the condition I'd choose to "hang out" in

115 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:37:28pm

When they put their hands in the air like that, it at least gets their knuckles off the ground.

116 Jim in Virginia  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:37:32pm

re: #104 Former Belgian
Walloon or Flem?
The last ten years have shown that the Europeans- at least some of them- are very good at ethnic cleansing.

117 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:38:00pm

re: #105 Killgore Trout

That's pretty much the same thing Crazy Pam wrote when she posted video of the first Luton Riot.

insane

118 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:38:13pm

re: #107 Erik The Red

Sham. We are on the same page. The youth of today are dumb fucks. Who eat and believe the MFM. How do we change them. I believe Europe is lost.

Did you see the Indy 500 Sunday? Just an awesome race...

119 Jim in Virginia  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:39:09pm

re: #114 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Stop Dave. Please stop. My mind is going. I can feel it.
Would you like to hear a song?

120 austin_blue  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:39:51pm

re: #31 pingjockey

Check this shit out....
[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]

Same thing in Edinburgh with Hearts and Hibernian. No colors in bars on game days. Soccer hooligans, bully boys, yobbos. Call 'em what you want, they're just undisciplined tugs.

121 HAL2010  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:39:54pm

re: #114 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*crawling futher under desk, covering head*

/heh ... "suspendedly animated" at the hands of an insulted Brit isn't the condition I'd choose to "hang out" in

If I get really, really angry I will send a letter to my local paper.

122 debutaunt  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:40:05pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

It's such a bummer that Ayyan Hirsi Ali is on the sidebar with the rest of that crap. Where is she lately? I'd figure she'd be one of the loudest voices opposing this stuff.

[Link: www.aei.org...]

123 Jim in Virginia  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:40:53pm

re: #102 Nevergiveup

U.N. Chief Sees 'Violation' if North Korea Nuclear Test Confirmed

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

And what's amazing he saw that even with is head up his ass?


Great, he recognizes a violation. Time for a sternly worded letter, I guess.

124 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:41:18pm

Ironic how the only difference between them and the Yutes is... what, exactly? First language?

And for a bunch of gay-haters, they sure look like they'd be happy playing for the other team.

125 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:42:19pm

re: #121 HAL2010

If I get really, really angry I will send a letter to my local paper.

LOL!

I recall a line of dialog, somewhere in a decades-old British film (forget which one), where a guy threatens to (*gasp*) write a letter to the London Times.

126 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:42:21pm

Red Bull Cola could be banned in Germany - after traces of cocaine are found in it

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Is this the same Red Bull sold here in the USA?

127 Erik The Red  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:42:38pm

re: #118 HoosierHoops

Did you see the Indy 500 Sunday? Just an awesome race...

No sorry I did not. TV packed. But I did watch the F1 race at the pub. My biggest change will be following US sport vs the European sport. Won't take long to get back into it. I love watching.
better arm chair than player

128 Sharmuta  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:43:10pm

re: #104 Former Belgian

I am reminded of what Mark Steyn was predicting --- that before Europe would succumb to Eurabia we would se the re-emergence of Europe's "native" dark side.

Too bad he's not more vocal in denouncing that dark side these days.

129 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:43:16pm

re: #122 debutaunt

She hasn't given a speech since October of last year. Only a few articles published this year.

130 zuckerlilly  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:43:29pm

re: #50 HAL2010

Almost forgot, this is quite amusing, in its own sort of way.

Turns out that BNP voters don't exist and their leaflet is a lie

The youth-organization of pro-Koeln used a Czeck erotic model from an erotic web site in the Netherlands for their "student magazine" to cover a story about "German is cool" and to defame Turks as sex monsters.

131 brookly red  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:43:46pm

re: #126 Nevergiveup

Red Bull Cola could be banned in Germany - after traces of cocaine are found in it

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Is this the same Red Bull sold here in the USA?

yup, now watch the sales go up...

132 erraticsphinx  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:44:35pm

The mask is not just off, but completely chucked out the window at GOV these days.

133 debutaunt  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:44:36pm

re: #129 Killgore Trout

She hasn't given a speech since October of last year. Only a few articles published this year.

I don't know how expensive it is to keep her alive.

134 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:44:52pm

re: #131 brookly red

yup, now watch the sales go up...

I wonder if that means someone could test positive on drug test?

135 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:45:12pm

re: #126 Nevergiveup

Red Bull Cola could be banned in Germany - after traces of cocaine are found in it

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Is this the same Red Bull sold here in the USA?

Taking the wings away.

136 debutaunt  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:45:33pm

re: #129 Killgore Trout

She hasn't given a speech since October of last year. Only a few articles published this year.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out she's been writing a new book.

137 Erik The Red  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:45:58pm

Later Lizards. Couch/bed/floor/dog house is calling.

138 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:46:21pm

re: #115 DEZes

When they put their hands in the air like that, it at least gets their knuckles off the ground.


Wow, wham o, that's an instant classic.

139 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:47:07pm

Crazies on the left and loonies on the right, and the police get brickbats thrown at them from all directions. Geez.

I knew this was going to happen to Europe, because they PC everything, coddle people, yet limit their freedom and opportunity. Things fester for a couple of decades, then all hell breaks loose.

It's like an inadequate dike made of mud. It seems fine for years, as it slowly erodes from neglect, then wham - it breaks. Then they build the mud dike again. Cycle repeats.

140 Kenneth  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:47:14pm

I detest Nazis.
All Nazis.
Old style Nazis.
Neo-Nazis.
Islamo-Nazis like Ahmadinejad & Nasrallah & their ilk.
Crypto-Nazis like these "counterjihad" thugs.
They are all Nazis.
I detest them all.

141 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:47:28pm

re: #138 callahan23

Wow, wham o, that's an instant classic.

I didnt expect the attention it got.
[Callahan}

142 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:47:54pm

re: #19 HAL2010

Ian Hindle
Statutory rape of a minor.
Member.

Andrew Wells
Statutory rape of a minor. Engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a minor.
Member.

Lockhart Kneen
Racially and religiously aggravated harassment. Distributing racist materials.
Ran an operation selling BNP magazines.

Martin Glasgow
Racially aggravated assault.
Chesterfield BNP fund holder.

Anthony Weeks
Racially aggravated assault.
Member (Darlington).

Andrew Kendall
Racially offensive behaviour.
Supporter.

Shaun Jones
Verbal assault.
Supporter (Wales).

Dominic Bugler
Possession of an imitation firearm. Two-year ASBO for violent and drunken behaviour. Eviction.
BNP candidate for Pelsall ward, Walsall.

Robert Bennett
Gang rape. Affray.
Oversaw BNP leafleting campaign in Oldham 2002.

Jamie Sedgewick
Racially aggravated verbal abuse of a police officer.
Member (Morden).

David Copeland
Mass murder.
Active member.

Robert Cottage
Possession of explosives. Conspiracy to cause and explosion (not proven yet).
Member and former council election candidate.

David Enderby
Assault.
BNP Councillor (Redditch).

Richard Mulhall
Four counts of benefit fraud.
BNP Council Group leader. Political agent for winning BNP candidate Adrian Marsden. The BNP won Mixenden ward at Calderdale Council in West Yorkshire in a 2003 by-election.

Robert McGlynn
Shouting racist abuse.
Activist (Swansea).

Allen Boyce
Incitement to possess explosives.
BNP supporter (former National Front Remembrance Day parade bugler).

Angela Clarke
Resisting arrest.
Former BNP councillor.

Luke Smith
Violent disorder and other violent offences.
Former BNP Burnley councillor.

Stephen Bailey
35 charges of criminal damage. 19 charges of arson.
BNP activist (Lincoln).

Roderick Rowley
Making, distributing and possessing obscene images of children.
Former BNP candidate (Coventry).

Karl Hanson
Possessing heroin and crack cocaine.
Former BNP candidate in Huddersfield.

Terry Collins
Year-long campaign of terror against Asian families in Eastbourne. Possession of bullets. Racially aggravated criminal damage.
Member (Eastbourne).

Brian Wainwright
A campaign of hate mail against a local mosque.
BNP Parliamentary candidate for Hull.

143 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:47:59pm

re: #126 Nevergiveup

Red Bull Cola could be banned in Germany - after traces of cocaine are found in it

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Is this the same Red Bull sold here in the USA?

I was going to start commenting, but with news like this, I'm heading to the 7-ll.

144 brookly red  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:48:13pm

re: #134 Nevergiveup

I wonder if that means someone could test positive on drug test?

I would think not, it was trace amounts of the plant that was found. There is more actual cocaine in the drinking water in Barcelona, but again we are talking parts per million.

145 Randall Gross  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:48:24pm

re: #103 Charles

Baron Bodissey at Gates of Vienna is now openly supporting the BNP, by the way.

He's also writing endorsements for Petra, you nailed his ideology exactly right way back then.

146 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:48:46pm

re: #126 Nevergiveup

Red Bull Cola could be banned in Germany - after traces of cocaine are found in it

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Is this the same Red Bull sold here in the USA?

Coca Cola has used de-cocainized extract of coca leaf in its formula for years. Of course, at first the coca leaf was not de-cocainized.

147 HAL2010  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:49:05pm

re: #125 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL!

I recall a line of dialog, somewhere in a decades-old British film (forget which one), where a guy threatens to (*gasp*) write a letter to the London Times.

My friend managed to get a letter into the times when we were in upper secondary. He couldn't stop bragging about it.

148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:50:54pm

re: #140 Kenneth

Indiana Nazis?

149 erraticsphinx  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:51:16pm

Oh. My.

Reading the "Slouching toward Copenhagen" post on the "secret" summit there is chilling.

Just when you think it can't get any more creepier and fascist, it does.

*shudder*

Thank you for keeping a tab on them, Charles.

150 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:51:42pm

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Indiana Nazis?

They are the rivals of the Indiana Jones right?

151 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:52:15pm

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Indiana Nazis?

Wasn't that something with those guys dressed in black in that beat-up old police car?
/

152 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:53:09pm

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Indiana Nazis?

I hate those guys.

153 Kenneth  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:53:36pm

re: #19 HAL2010

Great post and links! A thousand updings!

154 Kenneth  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:53:55pm

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yup. Hate them too.

155 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:54:03pm

re: #140 Kenneth

I detest Nazis.
All Nazis.
Old style Nazis.
Neo-Nazis.
Islamo-Nazis like Ahmadinejad & Nasrallah & their ilk.
Crypto-Nazis like these "counterjihad" thugs.
They are all Nazis.
I detest them all.

Me too. Don't forget Illinois Nazis.

Youtube Video
156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:54:04pm

re: #150 Nevergiveup

Illinois Nazis!

Hangs head in shame. Heard once here that racism has quite the tradition in Indiana. Not the first time I have made that mistake.

157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:54:49pm

re: #155 Catttt

MMTA!

158 solomonpanting  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:54:50pm

Doesn't the kid in the middle of the photo play for the Lakers?

159 Kenneth  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:56:25pm

re: #142 MandyManners

Wow. What a bunch of thugs.

Nice friends you got there, Pam!

160 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:57:23pm

re: #158 solomonpanting

Doesn't the kid in the middle of the photo play for the Lakers?

Nahhh ,,,, Thuggys ears aren't as ,,,,,,ummmm,, DUMBOish !

161 HAL2010  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:57:54pm

re: #153 Kenneth

Thanks

Ignorance is never bliss. These people need to be exposed.

162 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:58:23pm

re: #147 HAL2010

My friend managed to get a letter into the times when we were in upper secondary. He couldn't stop bragging about it.

LOL!

163 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:58:30pm

re: #19 HAL2010

April is here and the BNP is well on form. London BNP's second in line for the Assembly, Nick Eriksen, is discovered to have some peculiar views on women, including the bizarre idea that women are more troubled by bag theft than rape. Thankfully he's booted out the day after his views become public - though he remains in the party and in his role as organiser.

A senior BNP leader with a strong chance of winning a seat in the London Assembly next month has written that rape is a "myth" and that "some women are like gongs - they need to be struck regularly."

The Evening Standard has revealed that Nick Eriksen, the BNP's London organiser and the second-highest candidate on its list for the Assembly, is the author of "Sir John Bull," a notorious far-Right blog which has regularly advocated hatred and abuse against women. The disclosure will be a serious blow to the BNP's hopes of London electoral success.

In August 2005, Mr Eriksen wrote: "I've never understood why so many men have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the feminazi myth machine into believing that rape is such a serious crime ... Rape is simply sex. Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal.

"To suggest that rape, when conducted without violence, is a serious crime is like suggesting that force-feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence. A woman would be more inconvenienced by having her handbag snatched. The demonisation of rape is all part of the feminazi desire to obtain power and mastery over men. Men who go along with the rape myth are either morons or traitors."

In November 2005, in an item entitled "Give her a slap!," Mr Eriksen approvingly quoted Noel Coward as saying: "Some women are like gongs - they need to be struck regularly." He later claimed that "the vast majority of domestic [assaults] are initiated by the woman."

Mr Eriksen also wrote that mothers "should never go out to work" and described career women as "unnatural and vile... it is a strange kind of woman who would want to invest [her] energies into her job rather than into a man."

SNIP

Sounds similar to the RoP.

164 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:59:26pm

re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Illinois Nazis!

Hangs head in shame. Heard once here that racism has quite the tradition in Indiana. Not the first time I have made that mistake.


There is a History in Indiana..I know this from moving here....Of old South KKK activism in this state..I believe with all my heart that most Hoosiers reject this view..I am very proud of this State...

165 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 1:59:44pm

By tomorrow at this time I'll be winging my way to Germany, and then on to the Ukraine. I'll be spending a day in Frankfurt, and if I get a chance, with the limited German that I can speak, I'll ask people if they're aware of what's going on in Europe right now. It'll also be interesting to find out what the Ukrainians are thinking of Russia right now, since they may be next on Putin's to-do list. I know Callahan 23 has been keeping us appraised of many things going on in Europe, I'm looking foward to finding out a little of it for myself.

166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:00:20pm

re: #164 HoosierHoops

KKK membership was very high there. It isn't rampant...but it has a history.

167 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:00:22pm

So ya wanna protest mask wearing, car burning muslim yoots? Here's whatcha gotta do...
////
What a bunch of low-life idiots.

168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:01:14pm

re: #164 HoosierHoops

Was just making excuses why I misquoted "The Blues Brothers".

Still hanging head in shame...

169 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:02:13pm

re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was just making excuses why I misquoted "The Blues Brothers".

Still hanging head in shame...

Same with me here. Head hanging low.

170 opnion  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:03:55pm

re: #164 HoosierHoops

There is a History in Indiana..I know this from moving here....Of old South KKK activism in this state..I believe with all my heart that most Hoosiers reject this view..I am very proud of this State...

There was a problem with the KKK at Notre Dame when Rockne coached.
The story is that Knute restrained his players.

171 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:04:01pm

re: #159 Kenneth

Wow. What a bunch of thugs.

Nice friends you got there, Pam!

I wonder how many of these children(?) really, I mean really know exactly why they're rioting.

172 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:04:49pm

re: #165 Soona'

By tomorrow at this time I'll be winging my way to Germany, and then on to the Ukraine. I'll be spending a day in Frankfurt, and if I get a chance, with the limited German that I can speak, I'll ask people if they're aware of what's going on in Europe right now. It'll also be interesting to find out what the Ukrainians are thinking of Russia right now, since they may be next on Putin's to-do list. I know Callahan 23 has been keeping us appraised of many things going on in Europe, I'm looking foward to finding out a little of it for myself.

I really wish you a very pleasant trip.

173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:05:00pm

re: #170 opnion

Ooooh. Cool. Goin' huntin'. I'll be back with the story!

174 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:05:27pm

re: #171 Soona'

I wonder how many of these children(?) really, I mean really know exactly why they're rioting.

Five bucks that you wouldn't have to progress to using your toes.

175 opnion  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:05:47pm

re: #173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ooooh. Cool. Goin' huntin'. I'll be back with the story!

Alright!

176 Sharmuta  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:06:24pm

ID apologists on the Powell thread, if anyone is interested.

177 Kenneth  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:06:32pm

re: #171 Soona'

I wonder how many of these children(?) really, I mean really know exactly why they're rioting.

Cuz theyz into violence, init? 's right.

178 Kenneth  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:06:48pm

re: #176 Sharmuta

low hanging fruit

179 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:07:27pm

re: #172 callahan23

I really wish you a very pleasant trip.

Will Ukraine your neck, trying to spot Soona's plane as it goes past?

180 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:08:02pm

re: #163 MandyManners

Mr Eriksen should be given a new perspective on rape.

181 Spare O'Lake  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:08:39pm

This is not Europe, this is America.
It can't happen here...

182 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:08:43pm

re: #176 Sharmuta

ID apologists on the Powell thread, if anyone is interested.

Well, let's go take a look!

183 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:09:27pm

re: #172 callahan23

I really wish you a very pleasant trip.

Thanks. I've been starting to get excited about it today.

184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:09:34pm

University of Notre Dame takes on the Klan!

185 Captain Cool  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:10:45pm

What is an "Asian"? Is that a Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hindu, Arab, Malay, Mongolian, Turk, or a native of Siberia?

186 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:10:47pm

I'd like to see a cage match between "their best boy" and Rage Boy.

187 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:10:55pm

re: #179 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Will Ukraine your neck, trying to spot Soona's plane as it goes past?

He won't have to. He can just sniff the air and smell my Cologne.

188 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:11:06pm

re: #179 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Will Ukraine your neck, trying to spot Soona's plane as it goes past?

Sure enough if it shows that certain Lizard chemtrail I might make it out from the rest of the air traffic.
/

189 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:11:39pm

re: #163 MandyManners

The only good thing one can say is men like that make a lot of other people look like angels visiting from heaven by comparison. What a cantsaythewordIwantto.

190 sandbox  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:11:54pm

Isn't there an aspect of "fools (or thugs) rush in where wise men fear to tread" here. As we all know, the UK has allowed to reside in their country so many radical islamists who are open about their intent to bring sharia law to the UK and support the various overseas jihads (all of that documented over the years right here in LGF). The politicans, the clergy, the educational establishment (with some exceptions) are so politically correct about not criticizing and deporting the islamofascists, at some point you're going to get outbreaks of violence from these other fascist elements.

191 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:11:59pm

re: #185 Captain Cool

What is an "Asian"? Is that a Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hindu, Arab, Malay, Mongolian, Turk, or a native of Siberia?

Yes.

192 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:13:01pm

re: #184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

University of Notre Dame takes on the Klan!

There's a book about this subject:

Notre Dame Vs. the Klan: How the Fighting Irish Defeated the Ku Klux Klan

193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:13:23pm

Have to go.

Lizard Vets? Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

194 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:13:43pm

OT - don't do the following, if you holiday in Crete. Rather funny perp walk.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

A group of British tourists holidaying in Crete, have been arrested for insulting the Catholic Church after parading in nuns' habits and G-strings.

Police said the tourists, under the influence of alcohol [you don't say!], were arrested after flashing at other tourists.

195 opnion  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:14:09pm

re: #184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

University of Notre Dame takes on the Klan!


Great get FBV. I have heard a story that some klan came to the ND practice & Rockne restrained his players. THat may be a wives tale.

196 Truck Monkey  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:14:10pm

re: #185 Captain Cool

What is an "Asian"? Is that a Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hindu, Arab, Malay, Mongolian, Turk, or a native of Siberia?

Codeword, in this instance, for Mohammedan. Let's be careful not to call them what they are.

197 ArmyWife  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:16:07pm

Afternoon all - want to quickly say thank you to all the vets. I'll be back later.

198 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:18:07pm

re: #196 Truck Monkey

Codeword, in this instance, for Mohammedan. Let's be careful not to call them what they are.

The BNP is against ALL darker skinned people, even Christians, Jews, atheists, animists, Buddhists, et cet..

199 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:18:09pm

re: #194 Catttt

OT - don't do the following, if you holiday in Crete. Rather funny perp walk.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence?

200 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:19:18pm

re: #190 sandbox

Isn't there an aspect of "fools (or thugs) rush in where wise men fear to tread" here. As we all know, the UK has allowed to reside in their country so many radical islamists who are open about their intent to bring sharia law to the UK and support the various overseas jihads (all of that documented over the years right here in LGF). The politicans, the clergy, the educational establishment (with some exceptions) are so politically correct about not criticizing and deporting the islamofascists, at some point you're going to get outbreaks of violence from these other fascist elements.

The concept of "political correctness" is to destroy civil and honest discourse among groups of people. When that's gone, all that remains is mistrust and prejudice. (Sure glad that it's not happening in the US.//)

201 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:19:52pm

re: #185 Captain Cool

It pretty much covers all of Asia, India and the middle east. I guess the Brits adopted the term because it all used to be considered the Orient to them.

202 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:20:30pm

re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Have to go.

Lizard Vets? Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Just stay alert and enjoy your freedom.

203 Last Mohican  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:20:33pm

re: #199 Alouette

Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence?

I hadn't thought about them in years.

I remember them as an only-in-San-Francisco phenomenon, but apparently they're now a worldwide organization.

204 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:22:34pm

re: #194 Catttt

I wondea if they arrived with their own handcuffs too.
It seem that the Brits are having a lot of problems with bad behavior abroad. It's odd because they're usually very well traveled and reasonably polite folks.

205 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:22:38pm

re: #194 Catttt

OT - don't do the following, if you holiday in Crete. Rather funny perp walk.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Men in G-strings? I may hurl.
The good thing is the Crete's broke them of their bad habits.

206 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:22:45pm

re: #199 Alouette

Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence?

What's funny in San Francisco is "we are not amused" in Crete. D

207 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:23:34pm

re: #205 DEZes

Men in G-strings? I may hurl.
The good thing is the Crete's broke them of their bad habits.

Drunk men in g-strings and little bitty nun dresses. Run away!

208 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:24:27pm

re: #207 Catttt

Drunk men in g-strings and little bitty nun dresses. Run away!

Fooking nasty. ;)

209 Last Mohican  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:26:15pm

re: #176 Sharmuta

ID apologists on the Powell thread, if anyone is interested.

What is it with those people? Do they think they're going to change anyone's mind by swinging through at the end when nobody's paying attention anymore? Or do they think God is updinging or downdinging whoever gets the last word in?

210 Sharmuta  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:30:26pm

re: #209 Last Mohican

What is it with those people? Do they think they're going to change anyone's mind by swinging through at the end when nobody's paying attention anymore? Or do they think God is updinging or downdinging whoever gets the last word in?

They think there are bigger issues to deal with. I don't disagree, but I'm not the one pushing an anti-science agenda and thus missing the target.

211 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:30:51pm

re: #204 Killgore Trout

I wondea if they arrived with their own handcuffs too.
It seem that the Brits are having a lot of problems with bad behavior abroad. It's odd because they're usually very well traveled and reasonably polite folks.

From what I've read, Brits have been going on "party" tours, with foreign countries catering to them with "stag and hen" nights (heh) for those about to be leg-shackled - I mean married, etc. I think maybe the normally reserved Brits want to go somewhere else to let it all hang out for a while.

In the visited countries, the drunk Brits are a pain, but they spend money, which is good. Apparently, this type of tourism has fallen off a lot of late.

Perfect Prague: So much nicer to be with when she's sober

212 sandbox  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:31:39pm

OT,
I was encouraged by the 90-6 US Senate vote deny funds to move the GITMO detainees to the mainland. There is hope yet.

213 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:33:24pm

re: #210 Sharmuta

They think there are bigger issues to deal with. I don't disagree, but I'm not the one pushing an anti-science agenda and thus missing the target.

There are bigger issues to be sure, and they want us to concentrate only on the bigger issues, Leaving them to push their agendas.
Its not working, and its pissing them off.

214 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:34:29pm

re: #212 sandbox

OT,
I was encouraged by the 90-6 US Senate vote deny funds to move the GITMO detainees to the mainland. There is hope yet.

There is always hope, and thank goodness Pandora opened that almost empty box back up and let it out.

215 Throbert McGee  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:34:33pm

re: #25 callahan23

Those index fingers extended is just another way of substituting the nazi salute.

Is that an intelligent guess based on context, or do you know for sure that the index finger is an established "euphemism" for the Nazi salute?

216 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:34:42pm

Now look, folks, have some sympathy here. They are Newcastle United fans and their team has just been relegated from the Premier League. They have experienced the 5 stages of grief. First, of course, as their team go down 1 nil, is shock and disbelief. The come the tears, yes, folks, real tears from these hard-assed bastards that their soccer (sorry, football) team have crashed. Then of course, its off to the boozer to get a skinfull. Then comes the anger, ah yes, the anger and "who can we blame for this travesty, its the [bigoted word]s fault, lets kick the shit out the towellys"

The last stage, acceptance, will not occur because they are just a bunch of drunken stupid ignorant idiots anyway and "it" will always be someone elses fault.

217 brookly red  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:34:58pm

re: #212 sandbox

OT,
I was encouraged by the 90-6 US Senate vote deny funds to move the GITMO detainees to the mainland. There is hope yet.

/well someone did run as a great unifier :)

218 Last Mohican  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:35:45pm

re: #212 sandbox

OT,
I was encouraged by the 90-6 US Senate vote deny funds to move the GITMO detainees to the mainland. There is hope yet.

But that wasn't really what the vote was about. It was about granting funds to close Gitmo, and I think most of the 90 simply meant that they weren't going to blindly grant Obama the funds he wanted, until he explained what he planned to do with the detainees.

Different, but still encouraging. I wish congress had been similarly responsible about authorizing stimulus funds without knowing what was going to be done with them.

219 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:36:24pm

re: #212 sandbox

OT,
I was encouraged by the 90-6 US Senate vote deny funds to move the GITMO detainees to the mainland. There is hope yet.

Don't get too excited. What they (the dems) voted against was NOT the plan to move the detainees to the mainland, it's that there was no specificity in the money request
(when will they be moved ,, where too ,,,, for how long ,, what to do with them when they're here ,,, civilian trials ,, military tribunals ,,) THATS what they voted 'against"

220 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:36:34pm

re: #212 sandbox

OT,
I was encouraged by the 90-6 US Senate vote deny funds to move the GITMO detainees to the mainland. There is hope yet.

All it was, I think, was a huge "oh shit, what are we trying to do" moment.

221 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:37:07pm

re: #214 Catttt

There is always hope, and thank goodness Pandora opened that almost empty box back up and let it out.

please see my 219

222 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:38:07pm

re: #185 Captain Cool

What is an "Asian"? Is that a Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hindu, Arab, Malay, Mongolian, Turk, or a native of Siberia?


All of the above and, sadly, it doesnt even matter if you are a third generation born with the local accent.

223 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:38:22pm

re: #213 DEZes

There are bigger issues to be sure, and they want us to concentrate only on the bigger issues, Leaving them to push their agendas.
Its not working, and its pissing them off.

When it comes to the ID agenda, I think some people just don't know how loony the ID idea is - they have this generalized "God created - you know - everything" feeling, which is not the same thing at all and is extremely vague in their minds, I think.

With that said, I have no respect for people who really, truly believe that the Flintstones is historically accurate. I'm pretty much "loosing my patients," as a client once wrote to me. :D

224 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:39:41pm

re: #187 Soona'

He won't have to. He can just sniff the air and smell my Cologne.

As you're Berlin through the air?

225 jorline  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:40:24pm

Good afternoon lizards.

Crap! I just turned on Fox, but forgot it was the "Becko the Clown" hour and his favorite sidekick Judge Napo.

226 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:40:42pm

re: #223 Catttt

When it comes to the ID agenda, I think some people just don't know how loony the ID idea is - they have this generalized "God created - you know - everything" feeling, which is not the same thing at all and is extremely vague in their minds, I think.

With that said, I have no respect for people who really, truly believe that the Flintstones is historically accurate. I'm pretty much "loosing my patients," as a client once wrote to me. :D

I suspect the loons do not know they are loons.
They think the rest of the world is nuts.

227 kulhwch  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:42:02pm
Youtube Video

OT: The Annointed One's motherships are back.  But they're not picking him up.

}:)     [They're staying.]

228 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:44:01pm

Getting back to NK and Kim's test, I read that "Thats Mr President to you" is telling us we all need to "stand up" to NK.

Well thats nice.

Kim, I stand up to you!

And if that doesnt work we can knock on the Joe Biden's bunker......

"Hey, l'me in, y'hear! Its getting hot out here"

229 Wishbone  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:44:02pm

re: #216 A Kiwi Infidel

Newcastle Fans................... In Luton?

230 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:44:29pm

re: #229 Wishbone

Newcastle Fans................... In Luton?


Maybe?

231 sandbox  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:45:23pm

re#220 Soonja.
I'll take what I can get. However it has opened up a previously unexplored line of discussion to the general public and the MSM. To wit, if we bring them here, and some of them are found "not guilty" or "no longer can be held" , and their country of origin won't take them back, or will kill or torture them upon their return, THEN regardless it is now politically correct to say they cannot be released in the USA. So why not, it will then be asked? Because we do not want radical islamists (as opposed to moderate muslims) in our country as a matter of public policy. Even Harry Reid appeared to be saying just that.

232 NelsFree  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:45:29pm

re: #179 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Will Ukraine your neck, trying to spot Soona's plane as it goes Russian by?


/More better now

233 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:45:32pm

re: #185 Captain Cool

What is an "Asian"? Is that a Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hindu, Arab, Malay, Mongolian, Turk, or a native of Siberia?

As far as the British are concerned, based on their census data, "Chinese" is a separate category and is not labeled as "Asian." There is also a "Chinese and other ethnic - other" category, which I think may be where they plop other oriental people.

They seem to perceive "Asian" as mostly central Asian, which is where the vast majority of their immigrants from Asia come from.

The central Asians are broken down by country - India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Asian - other.

234 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:45:56pm

re: #227 kulhwch

"V" ,,,,,, "O"

little difference !

235 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:47:08pm

re: #215 Throbert McGee

Is that an intelligent guess based on context, or do you know for sure that the index finger is an established "euphemism" for the Nazi salute?

It's what the neo-nazis do in Germany as the real nazi salute is outlawed. Often both the index finger and the thumb are being out stretched. See also the 'Kühnen Gruss'.

236 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:47:11pm

re: #223 Catttt

When it comes to the ID agenda, I think some people just don't know how loony the ID idea is - they have this generalized "God created - you know - everything" feeling, which is not the same thing at all and is extremely vague in their minds, I think.

With that said, I have no respect for people who really, truly believe that the Flintstones is historically accurate. I'm pretty much "loosing my patients," as a client once wrote to me. :D

So your saying the Flintstones didn't have those cool self-propelled (green) cars?

237 kulhwch  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:48:23pm

re: #227 kulhwch

I count mentions of Hope and Change, mentions of how the media shouldn't play them down in a negative light.

It's eerie.

I'm just waiting for someone to start screaming, "It's a cookbook!"

Back on-topic: why don't the 'yoots' and the skinheads ever riot at the same time and, uh, engage with each other?  Come to think of it, where were the soccer hooligans during all of this.

}:)     [One last thing about the tv series: it portrays lizards in a bad light.]

238 enoughalready  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:49:08pm

re: #196 Truck Monkey

Codeword, in this instance, for Mohammedan. Let's be careful not to call them what they are.

Ummm, where did you get that idea? Chances are equally good that it was a hindu, a sikh, a tamil christian or a buddhist.

239 NelsFree  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:49:09pm

H'm, no one has mentioned that, due to high unemployment, which is due to Socialization of the UK, the Youts have little else to do. A serious cause of trouble. We should consider that possible here (unemployed youts) if Obama's agenda proceeds apace...

240 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:49:32pm

re: #237 kulhwch

why don't the 'yoots' and the skinheads ever riot at the same time and, uh, engage with each other? I'd put it on PAY PER VIEW and wipe out the national debt in one showing !

241 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:50:15pm

re: #228 A Kiwi Infidel

Getting back to NK and Kim's test, I read that "Thats Mr President to you" is telling us we all need to "stand up" to NK.

Well thats nice.

Kim, I stand up to you!

And if that doesnt work we can knock on the Joe Biden's bunker......

"Hey, l'me in, y'hear! Its getting hot out here"

If I get the change to stand up to Dear Leader, I'm wearing my new three-inch wedge shoes. I can't walk well on high heels - wedges I can handle. That way, I will be seven inches taller than he is, unless he's wearing heels.

242 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:51:00pm

My wife and 2 daughters are baking an cooking and I am being called on to burn some shrimp and lamb chops on the grill. Duty Calls.

243 Wishbone  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:51:33pm

re: #230 A Kiwi Infidel

Errr...... No mate.

Though I daresay that the universal constant will most certainly apply; that being: "There's always one", there's more than a sliver of separation between Newcastle and Luton.

About 300 miles, for starters. That and the language barrier. The differences between accent and dialect of the two regions would render either unintelligible to the other.

244 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:51:33pm

re: #236 Soona'

So your saying the Flintstones didn't have those cool self-propelled (green) cars?

Youtube Video
245 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:51:44pm

re: #241 Catttt

If I get the change to stand up to Dear Leader, I'm wearing my new three-inch wedge shoes. I can't walk well on high heels - wedges I can handle. That way, I will be seven inches taller than he is, unless he's wearing heels.

Kick him in the balls, that will bring him down a peg or two?

246 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:52:28pm

re: #236 Soona'

So your saying the Flintstones didn't have those cool self-propelled (green) cars?

Yabba dabba do. :D

247 MandyManners  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:52:34pm

re: #235 callahan23

It's what the neo-nazis do in Germany as the real nazi salute is outlawed. Often both the index finger and the thumb are being out stretched. See also the 'Kühnen Gruss'.

Like the asshole in the center of the photograph.

248 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:52:56pm

re: #239 NelsFree

H'm, no one has mentioned that, due to high unemployment, which is due to Socialization of the UK, the Youts have little else to do. A serious cause of trouble. We should consider that possible here (unemployed youts) if Obama's agenda proceeds apace...

I'm starting to believe that it's part this admin's. plan. (maybe)

249 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:53:03pm

Be back later alittle fatter and alittle more satiated.

250 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:53:13pm

re: #243 Wishbone

Errr...... No mate.

Though I daresay that the universal constant will most certainly apply; that being: "There's always one", there's more than a sliver of separation between Newcastle and Luton.

About 300 miles, for starters. That and the language barrier. The differences between accent and dialect of the two regions would render either unintelligible to the other.


I defer to your superior knowledge. Therefore, there are no excuses, correct? They are just a bunch of angry skinhead racist nazis.

251 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:53:30pm

re: #247 MandyManners

Like the asshole in the center of the photograph.

Yuppers.

252 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:53:42pm

I'm glad I'm not working today. I keep using the wrong word spelled correctly.

Change for chance
Knew for new
Nest for next

Sigh for sigh.

253 enoughalready  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:54:06pm

re: #239 NelsFree

H'm, no one has mentioned that, due to high unemployment, which is due to Socialization of the UK, the Youts have little else to do. A serious cause of trouble. We should consider that possible here (unemployed youts) if Obama's agenda proceeds apace...


You may want to check your facts there. [Link: www.statistics.gov.uk...]

254 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:54:48pm

re: #247 MandyManners

Like the asshole in the center of the photograph.


Usually fingers are stuck up assholes, especially for rectal examinations. In this instance, the arsehole is attached to the fingers via a hand.

255 kulhwch  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:55:16pm

re: #234 sattv4u2

"V" ,,,,,, "O"

little difference !

Agreed, from what I've seen.

}:)     [Wonder where Robert Englund is ... ]

256 jorline  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:55:57pm

Wiki Andrew P. Napolitano

In 2004, he wrote the book, Constitutional Chaos: What Happens When the Government Breaks its Own Laws, a criticism of the American justice system. In the National Review, former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy noted that Napolitano had been a mid-level state judge and questioned his knowledge of the federal Constitution, citing numerous errors in Napolitano's writing on the subject.[1]

Both Dr. Murray Sabrin and Lew Rockwell mentioned Napolitano as a possible vice presidential running mate for Republican Ron Paul during the 2008 presidential election.[3]

Connecting the dots...Beck...Ron Paul...Judge Napo...Ron Paul

16 ounce can of Mixed Nuts
Glen Beck
Ron Paul
Judge Napo
Alex Jones
Lew Rockwell
Murray Sabrin

257 Wishbone  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:56:00pm

re: #237 kulhwch

why don't the 'yoots' and the skinheads ever riot at the same time

Perhaps 'cos the Skinheads were too busy getting stoned and listening to 'Specials albums or a bit of Marley?

"Skinhead" doesn't mean exactly the same thing here as it may do for you. Mostly, it's just a popular haircut.

258 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:56:03pm

re: #245 Nevergiveup

Kick him in the balls, that will bring him down a peg or two?

I've found a hard shot to the solar plexus is easier to get in. Men seem to have ball radar but forget about the rest of their anatomy.

259 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:56:26pm

re: #225 jorline

Good afternoon lizards.

Crap! I just turned on Fox, but forgot it was the "Becko the Clown" hour and his favorite sidekick Judge Napo.

Ug, truly a 'gruesome twosome' there.

260 callahan23  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:56:32pm

re: #247 MandyManners

Like the asshole in the center of the photograph.

This is what made me remember the very same salute I saw once life on German streets.

Memory bleach needed. Horrid folks monsters.

261 kulhwch  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:57:05pm

re: #240 sattv4u2

why don't the 'yoots' and the skinheads ever riot at the same time and, uh, engage with each other?

I'd put it on PAY PER VIEW and wipe out the national debt in one showing !

}:)     [Yeah, I'd pay to see that.]

262 NelsFree  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:57:14pm

re: #233 Catttt

The central Asians are broken down by country - India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Asian - other.

WARNING, HUMOR!

Pakistan and Bangladesh are very broken down, too.
*rimshot*
My office did a survey on the staff. One of the questions was, "list the employees, broken down by sex."
I wrote," we have no employees brokend down by sex. We do have one employee destroyed by alchohol."
*rimshot*
/h

263 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:57:19pm

re: #256 jorline

16 ounce can of Mixed Nuts
Glen Beck
Ron Paul
Judge Napo
Alex Jones
Lew Rockwell
Murray Sabrin

LOL! Loves it!

264 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 2:59:13pm

re: #252 Catttt

I'm glad I'm not working today. I keep using the wrong word spelled correctly.

Change for chance
Knew for new
Nest for next

Sigh for sigh.

You have to admit, it's quite a feet.

265 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:00:02pm

re: #261 kulhwch

}:)     [Yeah, I'd pay to see that.]

That would be interesting. The Asians tend to stick to holding signs and taunting, yelling, smirking, chanting, etc. The neo-Nazi types go for mahem and destruction. Those preferences might change, if the two groups found themselves in a confrontation. I'm just not sure how they'd change.

266 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:00:05pm

re: #253 enoughalready

You may want to check your facts there. [Link: www.statistics.gov.uk...]

You are aware that the graph(s) you posted support Nels's post, right? Take Figure 5, for instance. The youth (16-24) is 15-20% HIGHER than the 25-49 age range

267 Wishbone  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:00:38pm

re: #250 A Kiwi Infidel

I defer to your superior knowledge. Therefore, there are no excuses, correct? They are just a bunch of angry skinhead racist nazis.

Strangely enough, I don't see any Skinheads in any of the photos. Racists?..... most probably. Nazis?........ don't know about that, but they're most certainly what we'd call a 'bunch of arseholes'

268 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:00:55pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

Ug, truly a 'gruesome twosome' there.

I'm watching "Patton". He just slapped the private.

269 Catttt  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:01:12pm

re: #262 NelsFree

That's ok. Feel free to use me as a straight man. Glad to be useful. /

270 jorline  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:01:27pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

Ug, truly a 'gruesome twosome' there.

I'm waiting to go back to Fox when the shift change happens.
How are you Dark?

271 Bloodnok  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:01:55pm

re: #268 Soona'

I'm watching "Patton". He just slapped the private.

Is that a euphemism?

272 kulhwch  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:02:01pm

re: #257 Wishbone

Perhaps 'cos the Skinheads were too busy getting stoned and listening to 'Specials albums or a bit of Marley?

"Skinhead" doesn't mean exactly the same thing here as it may do for you. Mostly, it's just a popular haircut.

Ah, I stand corrected -- I mistakenly used the American term without considering that it might be different over there.  My bad.  Then let me rephrase it.  Why don't the fine gentlefolk mentioned in the report mentioned above ever engage in a 'cultural exchange' with similarly rioting Islamofascists?

}:)     [It's a blind date from hell, and I don't know who deserves it more.]

273 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:02:35pm

re: #271 Bloodnok

Is that a euphemism?

LMAO!

274 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:03:09pm

The United States is out of money, when did this happen?

Youtube Video

C-SPAN INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT

SCULLY: Yet, it all takes money. You know the numbers, $1.7 trillion debt, a national deficit of $11 trillion. At what point do we run out of money?

OBAMA: Well, we are out of money now. We are operating in deep deficits, not caused by any decisions we've made on health care so far. This is a consequence of the crisis that we've seen and in fact our failure to make some good decisions on health care over the last several decades.

Pay careful attention to the expression of his face when he says that. It seems to be like some kind of a funny joke to him. And what's Obama's solution to the problem, even as he acknowledges America is already flat broke and seriously in debt? Hey, I, know, the obvious answer is to quadruple the deficit! That makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?

/I mean the trick to getting out of debt is to borrow lots more money and spend it, right?

275 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:03:24pm

re: #271 Bloodnok

Is that a euphemism?

Does sound strange, now that I think about it. :p

276 Shr_Nfr  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:04:16pm

re: #31 pingjockey

Just great. That's all Bwitain needs now is that on top of everything else. If I knew the exact date my grandparents got on the boat to leave England I would honor it as a special holiday. Every time you think Bwitain can't get any more loony tunes, it does. Of course, our problem is that we have a bunch of people in office who think the way Bwitain is going is just fine. Bread and circuses. Bah!

277 kulhwch  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:04:23pm

re: #265 Catttt

The only thing I ask is that they don't become friends.

}:)     [However, that would be just my luck.]

278 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:04:26pm

re: #271 Bloodnok

Is that a euphemism?

It wasn't Soona's phemism.
It was Patton's phemism.

279 Wishbone  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:05:41pm

re: #272 kulhwch

Probably because the constabulary, government and local leaders are doing everything they can to avoid just that; when that lid comes off, the shit will really hit the fan.

280 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:05:54pm

re: #278 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It wasn't Soona's phemism.
It was Patton's phemism.

I am amazed you let one of my puns slip through without a reply.

281 Bloodnok  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:05:59pm

re: #278 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It wasn't Soona's phemism.
It was Patton's phemism.

You deserve a Patton the back for that.

282 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:07:10pm

re: #274 Killian Bundy

The United States is out of money, when did this happen? Should we have a bake sale ?

283 enoughalready  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:07:13pm

re: #266 sattv4u2

You are aware that he was arguing that it was due to socialization (I think the socialists of Britain would probably die from laughter.)? The proportions differ marginally but compare them to the height of Tory power in the mid eighties and you may well note that the actuals were a LOT higher. (Unfortunately that report don't show historical demographic breakdowns but suffice to say that the over 3 million unemployed in the years 1983-1988 would probably not quite agree with that description of british history. In times of high unemployment numbers will be highest among the uneducated young. There should be nothing surprising or even remotely politically charged about that statement.

284 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:08:05pm

re: #276 Shr_Nfr

Just great. That's all Bwitain needs now is that on top of everything else. If I knew the exact date my grandparents got on the boat to leave England I would honor it as a special holiday. Every time you think Bwitain can't get any more loony tunes, it does. Of course, our problem is that we have a bunch of people in office who think the way Bwitain is going is just fine. Bread and circuses. Bah!

Glad that's not happening in the US..........wait a minute.

285 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:08:51pm

re: #270 jorline

I'm waiting to go back to Fox when the shift change happens.
How are you Dark?

Still chasing my quotas. It going to come down to the last few days of the month but I've got enough sales, hours, and leads to feel confident that I'll make it. Once I do, I've still got to deal with a very busy first half of June. I can't talk about many specifics but suffice it to say that my job will take over my life for the next 2-to-3 weeks. I won't be here much, nor will I have much fun time. Just work and lots of it.

286 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:08:55pm

re: #282 sattv4u2

Should we have a bake sale ?

/we're gonna need a bigger cake

287 NelsFree  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:10:21pm

re: #253 enoughalready

You may want to check your facts there. [Link: www.statistics.gov.uk...]

Thank you for your link. I'm always happy to get more information.

From your linked .pdf:

"However, it
is worth remembering the unemployment
rate is expressed as a proportion of the
economically active population and does
not include those who are economically
inactive. Th erefore, the unemployment
rate should not be used to measure the
proportion of a group who are not working
as it excludes those who are economically
inactive."

Could it be that some of the Youts are "economically
inactive"? Could it be that the government would distort the data in order to present a brighter picture?
/Inquiring minds want to know

288 Wishbone  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:10:55pm

re: #276 Shr_Nfr

If I knew the exact date my grandparents got on the boat to leave England I would honor it as a special holiday.

If you ever find out, I'll join you in celebration.

You don't know anything about the Celtic / Rangers story do you? That shit has been going on for donkeys years and is nothing new.

289 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:11:05pm

re: #280 DEZes

I am amazed you let one of my puns slip through without a reply.

UH OH!

(I've been back and forth between two threads -- reason, not an excuse)

290 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:11:23pm

re: #281 Bloodnok

You deserve a Patton the back for that.

Omar God, that was bad.

291 NelsFree  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:12:03pm

re: #258 Catttt

I've found a hard shot to the solar plexus is easier to get in. Men seem to have ball radar but forget about the rest of their anatomy.

No claws-based tactics?
You must have a "no claws" clause...
/

292 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:12:34pm

re: #290 Soona'

Omar God, that was bad.

*BARF*

/the highest compliment

293 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:12:44pm

re: #283 enoughalready

So you're arguing that capitilist lead gov'ts create unemployment numbers unseen during social politically lead times?

294 Buck  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:12:55pm

re: #256 jorline

Wiki Andrew P. Napolitano

Connecting the dots...Beck...Ron Paul...Judge Napo...Ron Paul

16 ounce can of Mixed Nuts
Glen Beck
Ron Paul
Judge Napo
Alex Jones
Lew Rockwell
Murray Sabrin

Balance? A little Right, A little Left and a few nuts...

295 enoughalready  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:13:03pm

re: #287 NelsFree

Yeah, sure it's a conspiracy to hide the right numbers. Sure. The fact that students or disabled are not listed as unemployed are certainly a sign of this. Because as we all know everyone working with statistics are easily swayed by all those bribes they get. (Which reminds me, can someone point me to the bribe counter?)

296 Soona'  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:13:38pm

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

Still chasing my quotas. It going to come down to the last few days of the month but I've got enough sales, hours, and leads to feel confident that I'll make it. Once I do, I've still got to deal with a very busy first half of June. I can't talk about many specifics but suffice it to say that my job will take over my life for the next 2-to-3 weeks. I won't be here much, nor will I have much fun time. Just work and lots of it.

I'm just hoping that your not a funeral home director. :)

297 enoughalready  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:14:07pm

re: #293 sattv4u2

No, I am arguing that talking about socialization in Britain is ridiculous. They've been pretty consistently moving in the opposite direction regardless of whather Tory or Labour has been in government.

298 jorline  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:14:34pm

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

Still chasing my quotas. It going to come down to the last few days of the month but I've got enough sales, hours, and leads to feel confident that I'll make it. Once I do, I've still got to deal with a very busy first half of June. I can't talk about many specifics but suffice it to say that my job will take over my life for the next 2-to-3 weeks. I won't be here much, nor will I have much fun time. Just work and lots of it.

I'm glad to hear you're hitting your quotas...job security.

I know how you feel. I own my own business and chase quotas each month...the government isn't making it any easier.

299 NelsFree  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:16:51pm

re: #269 Catttt

That's ok. Feel free to use me as a straight man. Glad to be useful. /

"I prefer using straight women, then dropping them like a hot rock"
/someone else's quote
I thought you were female!

300 jorline  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:17:02pm

re: #294 Buck

Balance? A little Right, A little Left and a few nuts...

Nuts all to me. Funny how Libertarian keeps coming up with these guys.

301 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:17:24pm

re: #297 enoughalready

No, I am arguing that talking about socialization in Britain is ridiculous. They've been pretty consistently moving in the opposite direction regardless of whather Tory or Labour has been in government.

example(s) please?

Recent elections show otherwise
Recent policies towards immigrants show otherwise
Recent policies banning people from the country (see Savage, Michael) show otherwise

302 enoughalready  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:20:49pm

re: #301 sattv4u2

example(s) please?

Recent elections show otherwise

How? Exactly how do recent elections show anything of the sort?

Recent policies towards immigrants show otherwise

How? Or what?

Recent policies banning people from the country (see Savage, Michael) show otherwise

How exactly is banning Michael Savage an example of socialization? (If you ask me it's an example of good judgement.)

303 NelsFree  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:21:42pm

re: #295 enoughalready

Oh, enough already, enoughalready! Seriously, sometimes you should have a healthy distrust of government statistics.
/do you like popcorn?

304 DEZes  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:21:56pm

re: #289 pre-Boomer Marine brat

UH OH!

(I've been back and forth between two threads -- reason, not an excuse)

Its cool, you can go about your business

305 enoughalready  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:24:27pm

re: #303 NelsFree

Oh, enough already, enoughalready! Seriously, sometimes you should have a healthy distrust of government statistics.
/do you like popcorn?

Hehehe. I distrust statistics. More than you think. (And I see more horribly bad bad bad bad statistics than I want to think about.)

Popcorn sounds good.

306 enoughalready  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:27:53pm

Crap, I need to go get the lawn mover, looks like it's going to rain. (Why do women leave it on the middle of the lawn? Why? Or maybe it's just my wife.)

307 NelsFree  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:27:59pm

Y'know, I've suddenly decided to stop quoting enoughalready, just in case. He was unwilling to provide links to support his "Britain is moving away from Socialism, I'll go find a few that show it is moving toward it. BBL

308 sattv4u2  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:28:26pm

re: #302 enoughalready

re: #302 enoughalready

How exactly is banning Michael Savage an example of socialization? (If you ask me it's an example of good judgement.)

wow ,, just,.,,, WOW ,,, So banning someone because of his thoughts, his political views is okay with you. (and I could give a rats ass about Savage,, it's the idea of the banning)

But you didn't give me any examples of how Britain is

been pretty consistently moving in the opposite direction

(your words)

309 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:30:11pm

re: #296 Soona'

I'm just hoping that your not a funeral home director. :)

No, I sell mobile phones for Sprint. The Palm Pre launches on the 6th of June and its a big launch. That much I can say without getting into trouble. The company I work for is why I stay off of iPhone threads, BTW.

310 hellosnackbar  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:34:41pm

It's highly likely that unless the authorities clamp down firmly on fascist
inspired thuggery there will be more(probably this coming Sunday).
However, if Islamofascists ,which to date have escaped censure, are not treated in the same way;then I predict a summer of discontent.
Cheeky Islamofascists have had it, too easy, for too long.
The hooligan element that used to pollute football matches, have a new target; and the BNP will be there to egg them on.
The PC brigade who pretty well encouraged the settling of Muslim ghettos
in publicly funded sink estates are guilty of fostering the predictions of Enoch Powell made forty years ago.
The sad thing is that people from the sub continent who just want to get on with their lives will become caught in the cross fire.
The BNP and the equally odious Islamofascists ,must be dealt with strongly.
The possible riot on Sunday will be between muslim extremists protesting against the Pakistan army taking out the Taliban and the same BNP inspired thugs we've heard about today.
I hope it won't happen;but I feel a tipping point has been reached .
Yet another problem for an inept government!

311 NelsFree  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:38:11pm

Well, enoughalready, the popcorn is for lizards to enjoy while watching a meltdown happen. You can be part of the audience, or part of the show. You decide.

312 NelsFree  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:39:13pm

Oh, look, new thread!
Upstairs.

313 debutaunt  Mon, May 25, 2009 3:54:17pm

re: #282 sattv4u2

The United States is out of money, when did this happen? Should we have a bake sale ?

Printing presses taking care of the shortage.

314 enoughalready  Mon, May 25, 2009 4:11:33pm

re: #308 sattv4u2

Which would be asking someone to prove a negative. But by all means. I actually already did. Take a look at the claimant count. Countries moving towards socialism tend to have rising claimant count figures rather than falling claimant count figures. In fact, the deviation between the actuals and the claimant count give you a pretty clear indication of where things are moving.

But by all means:

- The privatisation drive that was started during the Tories have continued. (Latest in the series is Royal Mail)
- Deregulation of the markets (hardly a socialist idea if you ask me)

I'd still like some popcorn while being part of the show though. Seems kind of unfair, really I should get all the popcorn and then I can distribute it to everyone. Equally. (This btw is a joke. )

315 enoughalready  Mon, May 25, 2009 4:13:28pm

re: #308 sattv4u2

wow ,, just,.,,, WOW ,,, So banning someone because of his thoughts, his political views is okay with you. (and I could give a rats ass about Savage,, it's the idea of the banning)

Someone who isn't a citizen? Ummm. Yes? I would argue that Michael Savage is no less a dangerous demagogue than certain middle eastern clerics currently (deservedly) on the no-fly list.

316 Dr. Shalit  Mon, May 25, 2009 4:29:52pm

Everyone -

The protesters overall SUCK. Yet still I can understand them. The UK Government has become almost a soft tyranny through "PC" measures.
I am sure that the "MI's" and the MoD know what is going on. The UK's problem, as is the US the tricky line between religious freedom and sedition.
I say this as a member of a family that broke US Law in the late 1940's to run guns to the Hagannah. Thing is, my family members were aware that IF they were caught, they WOULD do Jail Time. As luck had it, the weren't. Furthermore, they were NOT on the Public Dole when they smuggled guns.
In today's UK, come to the Motherland with a "Commonwealth" Passport, get on the Dole, live as well or better than the average Briton, and promote JIHAD.
How can you NOT wonder why these kids are angry, Pray Tell? Discussion?

-S-

317 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 25, 2009 4:37:38pm

re: #1 rightside

It always amazes me how some cowards cover their face.

Isn't it though? The Jihadi kids at anti-Israel demonstrations do the same thing here (SF Bay Area).

318 yochanan  Mon, May 25, 2009 5:11:22pm

sort of reminds me of the commie nazi riots in wiemer germany wish both could lose.

319 Øyvind Strømmen  Mon, May 25, 2009 5:30:11pm

re: #22 Sharmuta

Wonderful- they attack the police. That's exactly the problem in europe- no respect for the rule of law and law enforcement. Kind of hard to get the law on your side and start enforcing civil conduct if you're attacking the very people whose job it is to defend the civil rights of the populace.

They don't want law and order- they want anarchy.

Have to disagree with you there, Sharmuta. They want law and order. It's just that they want racist laws, and fascist order. Heck, I'd prefer anarchy.

320 Dr. Shalit  Mon, May 25, 2009 6:09:36pm

re: #318 yochanan

sort of reminds me of the commie nazi riots in wiemer germany wish both could lose.

Yochanan -

You GOT the point. -S-

321 gander  Mon, May 25, 2009 6:31:22pm

This is bad news, but it is not surprising. England goes from bad to worse. Panderers and Xenophobes. Its hard to accept this all coming from the land of the Magna Carta, and its decedent - English Common Law.

322 [deleted]  Mon, May 25, 2009 11:37:02pm
323 uptight  Mon, May 25, 2009 11:39:03pm

Luton is the worst place in England. If they gave England an enema, they'd stick the tube in Luton.

Luton is also "the front line". Hardened working class whites, living face to face with one of the largest and most radicalised Muslim populations in England.

Sides are drawn.

The working class whites feel that nobody in government or society represents them. They see the political correctness, but they also see the Al Muhajiroun terrorist wannabes out on the streets holding signs promising the violent, forced Islamification of England.

Given this situation, it is hardly surprising that the whites will attach themselves to the BNP. The BNP is the only party that addresses their concerns and is not afraid to speak out against the Luton Jihad.

I don't blame the white population to following them and I don't blame the BNP for using populist politics to attract them.

Of course this doesn't make the BNP or their supporters morally correct in all aspects, but it helps us understand the situation.

I don't blame the whites or the BNP, but I do blame the BNP's rise on the failure of conventional politics for failing to stand up to radical Islam. If these young, working class, white men saw the government severely clamping down on immigration and radical Islam (as they fucking well should) then the BNP would have no traction. They'd have no unique selling point.

The onus for tackling radical Islam should have been taken up by the Conservative Party, but they are playing their cards too close to their chests. If they were to speak their minds, they'd be accused of "racism", just as LGF is accused of racism.

The rise of the BNP is therefore also a failure of the left who, instead of siding against Islamofascism, have chosen to ally themselves with it in groups like the Muslim Brotherhood / Stalinist "Stop the War Coalition" or in Galloway's Respect Party.

The failure of government & the left makes the white population in shitholes like Luton feel disenfranchised and angry. As, I say, I find it hard to blame them.

324 Øyvind Strømmen  Tue, May 26, 2009 1:54:14am

re: #322 uptight

Oddly, your argument is extremely similar to the argument made by people who excuse Islamic radicals. "It's not their fault they support nasty politics". "They were pushed to it". "Given the situation, it's hardly surprising that Muslims will attach themselves to radical groups. These groups are the only ones addressing their concerns and are not afraid to speak out against Luton racism", "These Muslim youths feel that nobody in government represents them. They see the political correctness, but they also the BNP thugs and fascist wannabes out on the streets calling for a pure Britain", etc. etc. ad nauseam.

But supporting fascists, regardless of their shape, form and color, is wrong. Now, I agree that the Left has been doing many stupid things - it is a partial explanation, something the left should ponder - but it is not, and will never be, an excuse. The BNP is a fascist party. If you vote for a fascist party, you vote fascist.

325 Øyvind Strømmen  Tue, May 26, 2009 1:56:56am

re: #321 gander

This is bad news, but it is not surprising. England goes from bad to worse. Panderers and Xenophobes. Its hard to accept this all coming from the land of the Magna Carta, and its decedent - English Common Law.

Well, it does not look to good for the BNP on polls these days. I'd be surprised if they do a particularily good Euro-elections. The UKIP will be doing much better. So will the Greens.

326 uptight  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:54:15am

So what is the answer?

Much as it pains me to say this (because I am NOT a racist), the BNP are actually correct on a number of issues. We all know this, but few will actually admit it.

Not just on Jihadism, but also on immigration and asylum.

I hate the BNP and I regard it as a tragedy that they hold the sole franchise for these issues. They are extremist and untrustable. I don't like the fact that racial ghettos exist. I don't like creeps like Anjem Choudary being given the freedom to commit sedition in the name of free speech. I don't like the fact that NHS literature is printed in 56 different languages and that Somalis are given free housing & healthcare while tax payers are kept on waiting lists.

But I don't want a fascist state to stop these iniquities. I don't want deportations or thugs roaming the East End creating British crystalnachts. The BNP scare me.

It should be the mainstream parties stepping up to the plate. If they represented common sense, fair policies that a) aren't driven by racism and b) aren't castrated by PC, then the BNP would shrink to the fringes they were in the past. We wouldn't waste any attention on them.

327 Øyvind Strømmen  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:08:52am

re: #326 uptight

So what is the answer?

Although I do not agree with you on the political issues, I believe that the answer you are looking for is either:

a) get involved with some democratic political party (that is: not the BNP) and work to change its policies in the direction you want, work to have this policy implemented

or

b) go together with others sharing your political views and found a new party

Now, the British - like the American - elective system is not particularily friendly to new parties (the European elections are however proportional), so perhaps a is a better alternative than b. It's definitely a much, much better alternative than just complaining and then give excuses to a fascist party out of convenience.

Look at the Flemish party Lijst Dedecker. This party works for a stricter immigration policy, and often criticises radical islam. Yet, it is a democratic party, in spite of a number of attempts at entryism (I have doubts about their internal democracy, since the party is named after the guy leading it, but that's another story). It will probably gain a considerable amount of votes in the upcoming Belgian and European elections, and many of these votes will be taken from the Eurofascist Vlaams Belang.

Another example is the Norwegian Fremskrittspartiet (Frp). I would not vote for them in a million years, and disagree with most of their views both on immigration and other issues. Yet, they are a democratic party, they are not fascists (although some on the left would like to portray them as such), and they want to strongly limit immigration. And they're set to get maybe 20% of the Norwegian vote in September. In Norway, the true Eurofascist parties are basically chanceless because Frp are taking their votes.

328 Rev. Jim Sutter  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:31:17am

Extremists protesting extremists. In what universe does that make sense? Do these idiots (both sides) even realize that they're legitimizing the use of violence over dialog?

329 Red Lion  Tue, May 26, 2009 7:13:23am

Am I the only one who recalls Michael Savage, in the days after the 7/7/05 London tube bombings, saying England had only its soccer hooligans to protect it? Could that be the reason for his ban? Why does no one cite it?

330 AlexB  Tue, May 26, 2009 7:41:01am

I don't like the rise of the neo fascists any more than you do - but I think their rise is only a natural response - particularly in Britain, where by the words of my Muslim colleague who has family there - "it's REALLY bad", compared to other countries with Muslim minorities.

While Muslims in Britain and elsewhere are rioting and demanding more and more "special accommodations", the politicians and leaders of almost every institution are either embracing these changes with open arms, or are silently accepting them with out a word of protest... and in the mean time, those people who are not politicians or scholars, and are seeing drastic changes and violence, just want it to stop.

The reason that there is a rise in extreme-right is because the average Joes in England have been pushed there.

As a Jew I fear that the PC regime that disallowes those against Islamism to protest civilly (by, e.g., hyperbolically calling them "racists" and other names) will further increase the size and influence of extreme right wing groups... and those groups, once they will become big enough and [maybe] will stem the tide of Islamicization, will turn on Britain's Jews.

The worst that can be done is to marginalize those people who are turning increasingly right-wing by calling them neo-Nazis. They are not intellectuals, but just regular folk, and will not take kindly to that. You're guaranteed to see increased extreme-right-wing violence if these groups are not talked to civilly, and if the political CENTER does not begin to take a stronger stand against this increasing Islamicization in Europe.

331 Land Shark  Tue, May 26, 2009 8:29:33am

Jeez. The UK is really up against it. Islamo Fascist scum and their Useful Idiot Leftist Multiculturalists on the left, Fascist Racist White Supremacists assholes on the right. Where can a reasonable British citizen who wants to protect his/her nation turn to? No wonder so many choose to emigrate.

Funny how no matter how much the BNP and their ilk polish their image, their real selves always eventually show up. The UK is becoming more polarized every day, I fear what may happen there if things don't change.

332 Rev. Jim Sutter  Tue, May 26, 2009 8:58:33am

I used to fear that what was (and is) happening there could happen here - but with Charles now leading the voices of common sense against fascist sympathizers in the USA, I see some hope. There's still a thriving industry that's selling fear through the blogosphere, but now some of the top proponents of fear are being laughed at instead of taken as Gospel.


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