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1 jacksontn  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:31:09pm

Condi looks like a zombie in the retouched photo ... not nice of them to do that ...

2 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:31:27pm

I gotta contact those guys to do my facebook page?

3 ted  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:31:33pm

Busted !

4 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:31:56pm

re: #1 jacksontn

Condi looks like a zombie in the retouched photo ... not nice of them to do that ...

Oh I don't know, it's kinda democratic of them?

5 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:33:33pm

Ya' was robbed Charles, no HT on the Beirut pics.

6 Last Mohican  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:34:27pm

re: #5 jcm

Ya' was robbed Charles, no HT on the Beirut pics.

I was thinking the same thing.

The Condi photo was the most egregious. She didn't even look human.

7 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:35:05pm

A picture is worth a 1000 lines of provenance.

8 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:35:34pm

Krauthammer is ripping into Sotomayor's Ricci decision in the New Haven Firman case.

9 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:35:55pm

re: #6 Last Mohican

I was thinking the same thing.

The Condi photo was the most egregious. She didn't even look human.

She's not she was created in the Labs of Cheney Halliburton!

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10 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:36:03pm

talk about faux...check the pics of the 'heads' on the right sidebar....

11 Russkilitlover  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:36:37pm

The Iranian missiles didn't make the Top Ten?

12 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:37:54pm

re: #5 jcm

Ya' was robbed Charles, no HT on the Beirut pics.

The link goes to LGF ...

13 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:38:06pm

Messing with the soldier in Basra, is one that really pisses me off.

14 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:39:00pm

North Korea will pay a price for its latest nuclear test if it does not reverse course but the door remains open to talks on ending Pyongyang's nuclear programs, the US State Department said on Tuesday.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

yeah that tough statement will scare them?

15 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:39:15pm

re: #12 Charles

The link goes to LGF ...

COOL, completely missed the first link and caught only the wiki link.

16 Bloodnok  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:40:10pm

re: #12 Charles

The link goes to LGF ...

22 visits from the link so far.

Welcome, visitors.

17 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:40:29pm

Random fact....those locomotives in the Tibet railway picture were manufactured by General Electric.....I think in Erie, PA.

18 enoughalready  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:40:59pm

re: #1 jacksontn

That really mostly looked like some idiot had been put behind the controls of Photoshop. It wasn't even remotely interesting. I mean, I can GET what Christensen was going for. From an artistic viewpoint I certainly do. As news I think it fails miserably. The sheer squallor of the more muted original I think works much better to convey the situation. But he - as far as I can tell - has stuck to processing. In the case of Walski I just don't get it. Fine. Composition. But still. The first picture works just as well. We get it.

19 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:41:06pm

re: #14 Nevergiveup

North Korea will pay a price for its latest nuclear test if it does not reverse course but the door remains open to talks on ending Pyongyang's nuclear programs, the US State Department said on Tuesday.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

yeah that tough statement will scare them?

not likely...they have probably spent billions while people starve....they are dead serious about continuing...is state that stupid or is this an open threat...I vote for stupid

20 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:41:40pm

As far as I'm concerned, the Beruit photo is the holy grail of fauxtography.

21 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:42:03pm

re: #13 DEZes

Messing with the soldier in Basra, is one that really pisses me off.

Looks like the soldier in question is a Brit. Kinda makes sense, since Basra was more or less under their control.

22 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:42:44pm

re: #20 Sharmuta

As far as I'm concerned, the Beruit photo is the holy grail of fauxtography.

Maybe the rosetta stone, ow would that have been the pulsing memo from TANG? Either way, it was a key event.

23 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:43:39pm

re: #20 Sharmuta

As far as I'm concerned, the Beruit photo is the holy grail of fauxtography.

It is to photography what the Killian memo is to documents.

24 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:44:02pm

re: #22 Guanxi88

Really brought both blogs and the issue of retouched photos in the news to the forefront.

As far as the National Geographic cover goes though, is that one really as big a deal? I'm having a hard time getting worked up about that one.

25 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:44:24pm

That one with the enhanced coloration to the slum squalor. I mean, is it really necessary to augment the awfulness that much? A little restraint, people!

26 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:44:26pm

Here's my post on the Basra soldier photo, from April 2003:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

27 MandyManners  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:44:27pm

re: #12 Charles

The link goes to LGF ...

I still think your name should be in the text.

28 enoughalready  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:44:32pm

re: #20 Sharmuta

As far as I'm concerned, the Beruit photo is the holy grail of fauxtography.

Fauxtocraphy perhaps?

29 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:44:48pm

Oh- and congratulations, Charles. It's always nice to see you get recognition for your work.

30 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:44:58pm

re: #20 Sharmuta

As far as I'm concerned, the Beruit photo is the holy grail of fauxtography.

It has the distinction of being the worst of the worst.

31 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:45:28pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

Really brought both blogs and the issue of retouched photos in the news to the forefront.

As far as the National Geographic cover goes though, is that one really as big a deal? I'm having a hard time getting worked up about that one.

Yeah, the pyramids photo doesn't bother me that much. Now, if it were to be the only surviving image, it would be different, but I think of it as artistry (the focus shows that intent as well) and not as documentation.

32 MandyManners  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:45:46pm

re: #20 Sharmuta

As far as I'm concerned, the Beruit photo is the holy grail of fauxtography.

I also think the one of Sec. Rice is way up there. It was a horrific personal attack.

33 itellu3times  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:45:48pm

What about all the green helmet guy in Lebanon?

34 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:46:47pm

re: #31 Guanxi88

It's a little different to fake photos of news events versus a landscape, I think.

However, it goes to journalistic integrity. They shouldn't be doing it at all.

35 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:46:48pm

re: #33 itellu3times

What about all the green helmet guy in Lebanon?

I think those are excluded because they were staged, not manipulated, images. A fine distinction, but there it is.

36 MandyManners  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:46:59pm

I'm trying to reach down in my heart to find sympathy for O.J. but, I'm coming up empty.

37 Jetpilot1101  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:47:01pm

re: #25 Guanxi88

That one with the enhanced coloration to the slum squalor. I mean, is it really necessary to augment the awfulness that much? A little restraint, people!

I agree. With that being said, I've been to Port Au Prince and that photographer could have probably waked a lock or two over and taken a picture that didn't need to be photoshopped. Looks like laziness got the best of him. PAP is really a sad place and it broke my heart to see people living in such squalor.

38 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:47:09pm

re: #21 Fenway_Nation

Looks like the soldier in question is a Brit. Kinda makes sense, since Basra was more or less under their control.

He may be a Brit, Still pisses me off. ;)

39 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:47:09pm

re: #32 MandyManners

I also think the one of Sec. Rice is way up there. It was a horrific personal attack.

I agree- that one is disgusting.

40 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:47:10pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

Really brought both blogs and the issue of retouched photos in the news to the forefront.

As far as the National Geographic cover goes though, is that one really as big a deal? I'm having a hard time getting worked up about that one.

agreed...NG was not politically motivated to sway opinion

41 Randall Gross  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:47:16pm

re: #5 jcm

Ya' was robbed Charles, no HT on the Beirut pics.

They didn't credit anyone on the exposures of any of these, but at least they linked to the wiki page that does credit Charles.

42 Russkilitlover  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:47:21pm

OT - Drudge's flashing alert says that NoK fired another missile. No story yet.

43 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:47:50pm

re: #37 Jetpilot1101

I agree. With that being said, I've been to Port Au Prince and that photographer could have probably waked a lock or two over and taken a picture that didn't need to be photoshopped. Looks like laziness got the best of him. PAP is really a sad place and it broke my heart to see people living in such squalor.

I wouldn't want to walk anywhere there, from everything I've read and heard from folks who've been there in person. Laziness about sums it up, though.

44 Kragar  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:47:58pm

re: #33 itellu3times

What about all the green helmet guy in Lebanon?

That was staged photoshoot, not an alteration of an exisiting photo.

45 Russkilitlover  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:48:08pm

re: #36 MandyManners

I'm trying to reach down in my heart to find sympathy for O.J. but, I'm coming up empty.

Glad the f&cker's in jail.

46 simonml  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:48:10pm

but but but the pictures look like Obama says they should!

/

47 enoughalready  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:48:35pm

Here's a pretty good set of doctored photographs from the past to the present:

[Link: www.cs.dartmouth.edu...]

48 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:48:53pm

re: #42 Russkilitlover

OT - Drudge's flashing alert says that NoK fired another missile. No story yet.

waiting to see where it lands?

49 ArmyWife  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:49:11pm

We can make Condi look like a demon, delete rivals, add basket balls, squish pryamids together, but damned if someone cold figure out how to superimpose Air Force 1 near the Statue of Liberty. Go figure.

50 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:49:37pm

re: #38 DEZes

He may be a Brit, Still pisses me off. ;)

Oh yeah....I was saying that to clarify things; not 'Don't get so worked up- it's only some limey squaddie'.

I don't care if it's fauxtography, FOX news or 0bama himself. I won't let cheap shots against our military allies slide.

51 ArmyWife  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:49:43pm

re: #36 MandyManners

I don't think he needed any assistance in looking evil.

52 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:49:55pm

re: #42 Russkilitlover

OT - Drudge's flashing alert says that NoK fired another missile. No story yet.

These people are bat shit crazy!

53 Kragar  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:49:57pm

re: #49 ArmyWife

We can make Condi look like a demon, delete rivals, add basket balls, squish pryamids together, but damned if someone cold figure out how to superimpose Air Force 1 near the Statue of Liberty. Go figure.

I regret I could only upding once

54 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:49:57pm

re: #40 albusteve

agreed...NG was not politically motivated to sway opinion

And I think that's the difference. And it's why the Beirut pictures still take the cake for me. Rampant anti-Semitism in the press on full display with that picture.

Interesting the iranian missile fauxtography didn't make the list.

55 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:50:02pm

re: #47 enoughalready

Here's a pretty good set of doctored photographs from the past to the present:

[Link: www.cs.dartmouth.edu...]

Yes, those old Soviet, Maoist, and Nazi photo re-works always creep me out. Making un-persons, un-doing un-things, as it were (channeling orwell). Does a fundamental violence to the human mind, trying to destroy or manipulate evidence of actual events.

56 Russkilitlover  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:50:07pm

re: #49 ArmyWife

We can make Condi look like a demon, delete rivals, add basket balls, squish pryamids together, but damned if someone cold figure out how to superimpose Air Force 1 near the Statue of Liberty. Go figure.

ROTFLMAO!

57 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:50:37pm

re: #49 ArmyWife

We can make Condi look like a demon, delete rivals, add basket balls, squish pryamids together, but damned if someone cold figure out how to superimpose Air Force 1 near the Statue of Liberty. Go figure.

ZING!

58 Jetpilot1101  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:50:44pm

re: #43 Guanxi88

I wouldn't want to walk anywhere there, from everything I've read and heard from folks who've been there in person. Laziness about sums it up, though.

No you don't. As am American, you only go somewhere in Haiti in armored SUV's with some of the finest Devil Dog's guarding you. Flying in to PAP blew my mind. The south coast of the northern claw of Haiti has multimillion dollar compounds while the city of PAP is one big shantytown. 1% of the people there have 99% of the money.

59 ArmyWife  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:51:20pm

re: #42 Russkilitlover

Guess that strong condemnation worked wonders.
//

60 calcajun  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:51:20pm

re: #9 jcm

Muppet Labs, maybe.

Looks like an extra from "V" from the 1980's. Which is being remade for next year.

61 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:51:22pm

The news fauxtos just reinforce the notion that journalistic integrity is dead.

62 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:51:36pm

re: #54 Sharmuta

And I think that's the difference. And it's why the Beirut pictures still take the cake for me. Rampant anti-Semitism in the press on full display with that picture.

Interesting the iranian missile fauxtography didn't make the list.

really...that was easily my favorite, and such a ridiculous attempt....like a school project or whatever

63 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:51:50pm

re: #58 Jetpilot1101

No you don't. As am American, you only go somewhere in Haiti in armored SUV's with some of the finest Devil Dog's guarding you. Flying in to PAP blew my mind. The south coast of the northern claw of Haiti has multimillion dollar compounds while the city of PAP is one big shantytown. 1% of the people there have 99% of the money.

It fills me with a strange mixture of rage and despair when I learn of people living as they do.

64 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:52:06pm

re: #16 Bloodnok

22 visits from the link so far.

Welcome, visitors.

Stand up straight, straighten your tie and what is that stain on your shirt?

65 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:52:22pm

re: #60 calcajun

Muppet Labs, maybe.

Looks like an extra from "V" from the 1980's. Which is being remade for next year.

Sweet! Will they have David Ickes as a consultant?

66 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:52:22pm

re: #49 ArmyWife

I may have to bring some of my sockpuppets out of retirement to give that a few more updings!

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67 enoughalready  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:52:30pm

re: #55 Guanxi88

Yes, those old Soviet, Maoist, and Nazi photo re-works always creep me out. Making un-persons, un-doing un-things, as it were (channeling orwell). Does a fundamental violence to the human mind, trying to destroy or manipulate evidence of actual events.

I know. "What did you say your father's name was? No, sorry, no record of any individual with that name. Please step through this door marked 'NKVD re-education squad' please. We will send a bill to your next of kin. I meant information. To you. When we find it."

68 Kragar  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:52:39pm

re: #60 calcajun

Muppet Labs, maybe.

Looks like an extra from "V" from the 1980's. Which is being remade for next year.

I thought it was a continuation from the original series, not a remake.

69 calcajun  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:53:11pm

re: #52 Nevergiveup

Like foxes.

There's something going on in the Hermit (crab) Kingdom--maybe a power struggle, maybe they've all been eating paint chips. I dunno.

70 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:53:14pm

re: #58 Jetpilot1101

No you don't. As am American, you only go somewhere in Haiti in armored SUV's with some of the finest Devil Dog's guarding you. Flying in to PAP blew my mind. The south coast of the northern claw of Haiti has multimillion dollar compounds while the city of PAP is one big shantytown. 1% of the people there have 99% of the money.

Another failed state, wreaked by thugs.

71 American Sabra  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:53:37pm

re: #33 itellu3times

What about all the green helmet guy in Lebanon?

So much fautography, so little time?

72 calcajun  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:53:51pm

re: #65 Guanxi88

No-they're using fake reptiles.

Lizards--it's right up our alley!

73 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:53:52pm

re: #50 Fenway_Nation

Oh yeah....I was saying that to clarify things; not 'Don't get so worked up- it's only some limey squaddie'.

I don't care if it's fauxtography, FOX news or 0bama himself. I won't let cheap shots against our military allies slide.


Wasn't being snarky towards you.
Your last sentence summed up my feelings precisely.
;)

74 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:54:05pm

Interesting referral coming from digg right now. Tracks back to this article

[Link: www.adl.org...]

75 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:54:29pm

re: #67 enoughalready

I know. "What did you say your father's name was? No, sorry, no record of any individual with that name. Please step through this door marked 'NKVD re-education squad' please. We will send a bill to your next of kin. I meant information. To you. When we find it."

Had an uncle go looking, under Brezhnev, for relatives believed to have been DP's during WWII. Absolutely pointless, and we told him before he left, but he went anyway. Got treated like a freakin' spy, as we had warned him he would be, and, further, he no doubt jeopardized their safety, assuming they were still alive.

76 simonml  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:54:37pm

Reminds me of the Scrubs episode where the hospital photoshops the white doctor out of a picture in order to promote diversity with just the black doctor. Then they bring up the exploitation of the black doctor back in college.

Turk: Remember our college brochures?
J.D.: So what, they put you on the cover.
Turk: Twice?
*Flash to college brochure with Turk displaced twice in the same photo*

77 American Sabra  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:55:03pm

re: #35 Guanxi88

I think those are excluded because they were staged, not manipulated, images. A fine distinction, but there it is.

Ah yes, they could devote a page to that, too.

78 ArmyWife  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:55:26pm

re: #64 jcm

and for goodness sakes, put on some pants!

(someone had to say it)

79 Jetpilot1101  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:56:10pm

re: #70 jcm

Another failed state, wreaked by thugs.

I don't want to get into a huge political debate but what really blows for those people is even if they manage to get "feet dry" after one of their boat journeys, they get sent right back to Haiti while the Cubans get a free pass. We can debate the policy until the cows come home but somehow it doesn't seem right to me. Believe me, I've had to catch them and know they got repartiated and it sucks.

80 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:56:40pm

re: #33 itellu3times

What about all the green helmet guy in Lebanon?

Those pictures are staged, not Photoshopped

81 jamgarr  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:58:12pm

Zombie - If you're out there please e-mail me.

(Or if any lizard has permission from zombie to share contact info)

82 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:58:20pm

re: #70 jcm

Another failed state, wreaked by thugs.

another disarmed population

83 MandyManners  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:58:31pm

re: #39 Sharmuta

I agree- that one is disgusting.

I wish I had her boots.

84 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:58:57pm

re: #79 Jetpilot1101

I don't want to get into a huge political debate but what really blows for those people is even if they manage to get "feet dry" after one of their boat journeys, they get sent right back to Haiti while the Cubans get a free pass. We can debate the policy until the cows come home but somehow it doesn't seem right to me. Believe me, I've had to catch them and know they got repartiated and it sucks.

Those poor people, both Cubans and the Haitians, but especially the Haitians, as we've had so many interventions to try to "help" them that have only made things even worse. It's a shame and an indictment of civilization in this hemisphere that we continue to allow such suffering.

85 MandyManners  Tue, May 26, 2009 3:59:14pm

re: #45 Russkilitlover

Glad the f&cker's in jail.

And he'll never breathe free air again.

KARMA'S A BITCH, O.J.!

86 Dar ul Harbarian  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:00:04pm

First they came for the Chrysler dealers, but I was not a Chrysler dealer...

87 MandyManners  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:00:34pm

re: #51 ArmyWife

I don't think he needed any assistance in looking evil.

Looking back, no. But, at the time, he was presumed innocent.

88 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:00:51pm

re: #74 Sharmuta

Interesting referral coming from digg right now. Tracks back to this article

[Link: www.adl.org...]

yowza!...."walk them toward racialism"....good lord, as the old saying goes, this will not end well for someone

89 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:01:11pm

re: #85 MandyManners

KARMA'S A BITCH, O.J.!

Being a bitch prison is a real bitch.

90 MandyManners  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:01:15pm

re: #49 ArmyWife

We can make Condi look like a demon, delete rivals, add basket balls, squish pryamids together, but damned if someone cold figure out how to superimpose Air Force 1 near the Statue of Liberty. Go figure.

Outstanding!

91 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:02:04pm

re: #78 ArmyWife

and for goodness sakes, put on some pants!

(someone had to say it)

But I'm wea..... *looks down*
*blush*

Ahhh, I'll be right back!

92 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:02:06pm

re: #88 albusteve

yowza!...."walk them toward racialism"....good lord, as the old saying goes, this will not end well for someone

Thank you for clicking that link. I didn't think anyone would.

93 summergurl  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:02:27pm

re: #52 Nevergiveup

Let's see what the Administration can come up with to avoid discussing this - already nominated someone for the SC, maybe they could bring up something about Gitmo tomorrow.

94 MandyManners  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:03:35pm

re: #89 DEZes

KARMA'S A BITCH, O.J.!

Being a bitch prison is a real bitch.

I doubt he's in any danger.

95 American Sabra  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:03:51pm

re: #88 albusteve

yowza!...."walk them toward racialism"....good lord, as the old saying goes, this will not end well for someone

Ya think they'll invite these guys?

96 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:04:15pm

re: #94 MandyManners

I doubt he's in any danger.

I can hope. ;)

97 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:05:22pm

re: #92 Sharmuta

Thank you for clicking that link. I didn't think anyone would.

I hate fucking Nazis.

An anti-Semite and white supremacist using the name "Whites Forward" created the Tea Party Americans Coalition (TPAC) as "a working group for serious White racialist ACTIVISTS in the US who want to effectively coordinate our efforts and intervene for effect in Tea Party-type events." Anti-Semitic, racist, and anti-immigrant themes run through the six issues on which the working group is based.

Tea Parties where a decent idea start by decent folks protesting taxing now the fucking Nazis have hijacked it.

98 IslandLibertarian  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:05:28pm

A picture is worth a thousand words..............
PhotoShop : $699.00
Getting caught making Faux-tos - priceless

The truth is beyond price.

99 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:05:39pm

re: #94 MandyManners

I doubt he's in any danger.

Bubba is taking good care of him.

100 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:05:40pm

re: #92 Sharmuta

Thank you for clicking that link. I didn't think anyone would.

very spooky comments and I don't think this problem is going to take care of itself...freedoms are ultimately at stake...we are a different culture than Europe but still I am very skeptical

101 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:05:42pm

re: #69 calcajun

Like foxes.

There's something going on in the Hermit (crab) Kingdom--maybe a power struggle, maybe they've all been eating paint chips. I dunno.

I think the Military is in charge.

102 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:05:52pm

re: #74 Sharmuta

Interesting referral coming from digg right now. Tracks back to this article

[Link: www.adl.org...]

Lies Lies lies! The Tea Parties are pure and good hearted people who love pantaloons and hate Ron Paul!
/

103 Last Mohican  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:05:58pm

re: #47 enoughalready

Here's a pretty good set of doctored photographs from the past to the present:

[Link: www.cs.dartmouth.edu...]

Excellent link.

Is this part for real?

A FOX spokeswoman said the executive in charge of “Fox and Friends” is on vacation and not available for comment but added that altering photos for humorous effect is a common practice on cable news stations.
104 Jetpilot1101  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:05:59pm

re: #95 American Sabra

Ya think they'll invite these guys?

That picture can't be real can it?

105 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:06:17pm

re: #97 jcm

Tea Parties where a decent idea start by decent folks protesting taxing now the fucking Nazis have hijacked it.

Shhhhh! No one wants to hear that.

106 Randall Gross  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:06:31pm

re: #74 Sharmuta

Interesting referral coming from digg right now. Tracks back to this article

[Link: www.adl.org...]

Underlining what several people and Charles have pointed out here.

107 American Sabra  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:06:41pm

re: #104 Jetpilot1101

That picture can't be real can it?

My guess is no, but it always cracks me up.

108 calcajun  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:06:44pm

re: #74 Sharmuta

Interesting referral coming from digg right now. Tracks back to this article

[Link: www.adl.org...]

OK. That was ...creepy.

109 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:06:45pm
110 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:07:06pm

re: #95 American Sabra

Ya think they'll invite these guys?

are they real?

111 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:07:10pm

re: #106 Thanos

Underlining what several people and Charles have pointed out here.

Shhhhhhhhh!

112 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:07:32pm

re: #108 calcajun

OK. That was ...creepy.

I agree. More than creepy, really.

113 Jetpilot1101  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:07:41pm

re: #107 American Sabra

My guess is no, but it always cracks me up.

That is what I thought and it did make me chuckle.

114 Idle Drifter  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:07:42pm

re: #60 calcajun

Muppet Labs, maybe.

Looks like an extra from "V" from the 1980's. Which is being remade for next year.

"V"

115 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:07:44pm

re: #109 Iron Fist

They weren't channeling Orwell. They are where he got the Idea. Both 1984 and Animal Farm were results of having watched totalitarian governments in action.

I was channeling him, not them. Decent people read 1984 as a warning; they read it as a how-to and porno all in one.

116 calcajun  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:08:07pm

re: #97 jcm


I hate fucking Nazis.

Well, no one is making you do it. You can stop...

Oh...

Never mind./

117 Summersong  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:08:12pm

I just received a strange call. The caller ID said it was from "Opinion One".

The recorded message said something to the effect of -

"America, are you aware of the tea parties across the country? If not, find out about them".

118 nyc redneck  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:08:26pm

o.j. looks like a killer no matter how dark or light his skin is.
he has murder in his eyes.

119 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:08:35pm

re: #116 calcajun

The dangers of splitting infinitives, illustrated.

120 American Sabra  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:08:45pm

re: #110 albusteve

are they real?

Actually it's quite an old pic. Been floating around the net for years. I just felt it appropriate in a silly sort of way.

I don't think it's real.

121 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:09:02pm

re: #117 Summersong

I just received a strange call. The caller ID said it was from "Opinion One".

The recorded message said something to the effect of -

"America, are you aware of the tea parties across the country? If not, find out about them".

It could have been from Lipton?

122 Gus  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:09:14pm

re: #117 Summersong

I just received a strange call. The caller ID said it was from "Opinion One".

The recorded message said something to the effect of -

"America, are you aware of the tea parties across the country? If not, find out about them".

What kind of voice was it? I got one and it was a mans voice. Kind of a creepy voce too.

123 IslandLibertarian  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:09:25pm

re: #105 Sharmuta

Shhhhh! No one wants to hear that.

I want to hear that and I want the NAZIs outed.
Speak out.
Call them on their B.S.
A lot of uninformed decent patriotic people believe in the Tea Parties.

124 American Sabra  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:09:31pm

re: #113 Jetpilot1101

That is what I thought and it did make me chuckle.

I mean, they're wearing Spongebob patches.

125 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:09:47pm

re: #95 American Sabra

Ya think they'll invite these guys?

When you take over the kids playroom to do a joke photo, especially one that took that kind of preparation, you really should turn of the TV.

126 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:09:50pm

re: #112 Sharmuta

I agree. More than creepy, really.

Good evening lizards! Hope everyone is well tonight..
That was a creepy picture..But I'm pretty sure that was photoshopped words in that pic..

127 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:10:15pm

re: #106 Thanos

A certain Lizard (who shall remain nameless) linked to his local Tea Party site again the other day. It's of course sponsored by Glenn Beck and Ron Paul. The put up a notice of FAQ's. 1st one on the list was "Who is welcome at the Tea Party". Answer: Everyone. The are hanging out the welcome sign for fringe groups, Truthers, and white Nationalists. This is what happens when you put Paulians in charge. They did the same thing with Ron Paul's presidential campaign and they've done the same thing with the Tea Parties.

128 ArmyWife  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:10:16pm

re: #108 calcajun

I can't even read it. Who thinks like this? Disgusting doesn't even come close to describing what this is.

129 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:10:27pm

re: #110 albusteve

are they real?

There's the picture, you can always trust a picture.

130 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:11:09pm

re: #74 Sharmuta

Interesting referral coming from digg right now. Tracks back to this article

[Link: www.adl.org...]

Exactly what Killgore has been pointing out -- and being attacked for. I've seen those posts at neo-Nazi sites like Stormfront. They talk very deliberately about concealing their true purpose and appearing moderate in order to spread their racist "message" at tea parties, in hopes of recruiting people. They see the tea parties as ripe for recruitment, because (according to them) they're almost all made up of white people.

131 American Sabra  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:11:17pm

re: #125 CyanSnowHawk

When you take over the kids playroom to do a joke photo, especially one that took that kind of preparation, you really should turn of the TV.

LOL well i thought that, but look at the robes. I think they have spongebob patches. Maybe he's their Grand Wizard.

132 calcajun  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:11:20pm

re: #128 ArmyWife

Seriously, fear sells. People who are afraid will buy into anything which reinforces their world view.

133 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:11:27pm

Y'mean all those Iranian missiles coming down on Wile E. Coyote might have NOT been real?

*sob*

134 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:11:45pm

re: #129 jcm

There's the picture, you can always trust a picture.

This thread proves it! ///

135 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:12:00pm

re: #125 CyanSnowHawk

When you take over the kids playroom to do a joke photo, especially one that took that kind of preparation, you really should turn of the TV.

Spongebob is a secret Grand Kelgel issuing orders via his show.......

Now I have to kill you.

/;-P

136 Summersong  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:12:04pm

re: #122 Gus 802

What kind of voice was it? I got one and it was a mans voice. Kind of a creepy voce too.

Yes, it was a young man. I was waiting for more message and it clicked off. Short message and no mention of who was funding this effort.

137 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:12:15pm

At one of my many side-line jobs, I recall many occasions where I had to photo-shop people out of pictures after they had been published. I always felt kinda weird doing it; even joked with co-workers about the commissar who disappeared, and stuff like that.

138 Randall Gross  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:12:19pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

A certain Lizard (who shall remain nameless) linked to his local Tea Party site again the other day. It's of course sponsored by Glenn Beck and Ron Paul. The put up a notice of FAQ's. 1st one on the list was "Who is welcome at the Tea Party". Answer: Everyone. The are hanging out the welcome sign for fringe groups, Truthers, and white Nationalists. This is what happens when you put Paulians in charge. They did the same thing with Ron Paul's presidential campaign and they've done the same thing with the Tea Parties.

The nazis are not the only ones recruiting either. The Dominionists in the Contstitution party are also hitting these with the same thoughts in mind.

139 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:12:19pm

re: #129 jcm

There's the picture, you can always trust a picture.

the color looks a bit off don't you think?....let me look again

140 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:12:43pm

re: #130 Charles

Exactly what Killgore has been pointing out -- and being attacked for. I've seen those posts at neo-Nazi sites like Stormfront. They talk very deliberately about concealing their true purpose and appearing moderate in order to spread their racist "message" at tea parties, in hopes of recruiting people. They see the tea parties as ripe for recruitment, because (according to them) they're almost all made up of white people.

I'm sure some would dismiss the article because the ADL is liberal.

141 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:12:48pm

re: #129 jcm

There's the picture, you can always trust a picture.

I wish someone would start photo shopping those pictures of Terrorists holding their AK47..Alter all the arabic words in the background.. to like..Pork..It's the other white meat..Stuff like that..

142 Randall Gross  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:13:01pm

re: #130 Charles

Entryism

143 Gus  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:13:10pm

The "touch up" of Condoleezza Rice is the worst of the bunch. Second would be the Basra cut and paste job.

144 Velvet Elvis  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:14:32pm

I don't have any problem with some of these, the one of the fire fighter, for example.

They left out Time retouching Saddam's mustache.

145 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:15:51pm

re: #125 CyanSnowHawk

When you take over the kids playroom to do a joke photo, especially one that took that kind of preparation, you really should turn of the TV.

off PIMF.

146 itellu3times  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:16:27pm

re: #35 Guanxi88

I think those are excluded because they were staged, not manipulated, images. A fine distinction, but there it is.

Yeah but, how about those pictures of dead bodies, neither staged nor digitally manipulated, but falsely captioned? Some of those are false in ways much worse than a few rubber-stamped smoke clouds.

Accurate but fake, doncha know.

147 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:17:12pm

re: #143 Gus 802

The "touch up" of Condoleezza Rice is the worst of the bunch. Second would be the Basra cut and paste job.

The Condi thing would have to go through several peoples hands to be approved. Not only is a Pshopped, it's a lousy Pshop.

There was malice behind that picture.

148 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:18:59pm

re: #145 CyanSnowHawk

off PIMF.

PIFW!

149 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:19:05pm

Here's more info (this stuff is not hard to find).....
Resources for Tax Day Tea Parties!

Here are some videos that should help those of you planning Tax Day Tea Parties in your own city or town. Thanks to Young Americans for Liberty for putting these great videos together! More great information on the Tax Day Coalition here! Remember that website! haha

This is from FreedomWorks, the main national sponsor of the Tea Parties. You Will see their banners at virtually every Tea Party. Check out the first comment about the people featured in the video....


Interesting, the guy behind these websites (Jeff Frazee) appears to have once been a poster at the Spartan Spectator, if we’re interpreting the google search results properly. The Spartan Spectator and its founder, Kyle Bristow, have demonstrated links with racist neo-Nazi organizations such as the National Alliance, and is listed as a hate group by the well-respected SPLC. Bristow was dismissed from the Young Americans for Freedom due to his extremist views. Brendan, you also share a connection to Bristow. One of your co-authors of your anti-Obama book gave an interview to Bristow promoting the book, well after Bristow had hosted a holocaust-denier at an off-campus event attended by members of the National Alliance. And one of Brendan’s own articles used to be up on the racist Vanguard News Network website, but was later removed (I have the screen caps).

(To be fair to Brendan, however, I never found any indication that he put the article on VNN; it appears they simply found it on another website and reproduced it; Brendan also does not appear to have ever talked to Bristow, though Brendan did aggressively promote anti-gay author Ryan Sorba, who did speak at a Bristow sponsored event promoted on Brendan’s blog.)

The other guy behind the National Tea Party movement is Eric Odom of #dontgo fame. His website for the tea parties are being aggressively promoted on Florida-based Stormfront.org. This thread shows how many of these “white pride” activists plan on attending these tea parties:
(Link redacted) . Some of Stormfront’s most senior members are intending to use them as an opportunity to bring people over to their cause: “I think the “tea party” is a good way to meet people with potential.
Most people at this event will be white people who are fed up with the direction of things and they are ready to hear how we got into this mess.
Tell them!”

(Interestingly, a photograph surfaced last year of Ron Paul (from whose campaign Frazee comes) cozying up to to Stormfront’s founder and his son. Here’s the stormfront thread with the pictures: (Link redacted) This thread is incredibly long, well over 400 pages, showing just how much support Ron Paul receives from racists around the country.)

Brendan, could provide us a clear explanation of your and Frazee’s connection (or lack thereof) to these hate groups? And how do you plan to counter the racist messages these people will be bringing to your protests?


Abolutely no response from Freedom Works or the other Tea Partiers.

150 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:20:23pm

re: #148 jcm

PIFW!

Preview is not just for Whitey! People of all skin color can benefit from it.
/

151 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:20:46pm

re: #149 Killgore Trout

Kyle Bristow!

152 Gus  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:20:53pm

re: #147 jcm

The Condi thing would have to go through several peoples hands to be approved. Not only is a Pshopped, it's a lousy Pshop.

There was malice behind that picture.

That's what makes it so bad -- the technical aspects. Then combine that with the "whites of the eyes" aspect. Overall it's a personal attack. Condoleezza Rice had to suffer through a great deal of attacks during her tenure.

153 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:22:48pm

re: #149 Killgore Trout

Here's more info (this stuff is not hard to find).....
Resources for Tax Day Tea Parties!


Abolutely no response from Freedom Works or the other Tea Partiers.

Wow. That's some seriously bad stuff.

A site associated with Dick Armey and Steve Forbes is promoting white nationalists.

The other commenters just went right past that first comment as if it weren't even there.

154 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:23:20pm

re: #151 Sharmuta

Yup, and apparently he is also connected to Brendan Steinhauser, who posted those videos on the Freedom Works Tea Party Website. The organizers are very friendly with the White Nationalists.

155 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:23:59pm

re: #153 Charles

Wow. That's some seriously bad stuff.

A site associated with Dick Armey and Steve Forbes is promoting white nationalists .

The other commenters just went right past that first comment as if it weren't even there.

This should have its own thread, IMO.

156 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:24:22pm

re: #149 Killgore Trout

the whole concept will have to be junked...unfortunately there were no nationally known pols that got behind this movement early on...I thought from the outset that the GOP should have got on board but they didn't have the balls...RP and Stormfront filled the void...it's over for the tea parties as originally designed and for that I wail my displeasure...haha!...it was a good idea...I promote reasonable dissent

157 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:24:23pm

re: #155 Alouette

This should have its own thread, IMO.

Absolutely!

158 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:24:46pm

re: #153 Charles

Yeah, I thought the admins would delete his comment or refute it. I haven't checked the info, but it's probably accurate. The rest of the Tea Partiers don't seem the least bit bothered by it.

159 American Sabra  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:24:51pm

re: #152 Gus 802

That's what makes it so bad -- the technical aspects. Then combine that with the "whites of the eyes" aspect. Overall it's a personal attack. Condoleezza Rice had to suffer through a great deal of attacks during her tenure.

I've sometimes cheered her and sometimes cursed her, but I will always respect her. I don't feel that way about many politicians. I know that sentiment isn't too popular.

Whatever anyone says about the Bush administration, it was one of the most diverse admins we ever had.

160 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:25:08pm

re: #144 Conservative Moonbat

I don't have any problem with some of these, the one of the fire fighter, for example.

They left out Time retouching Saddam's mustache.

When it's a news photo, it should not be manipulated, it should be published as shot.

It's simple credibility.

Now they could take that shot and enhance it for a slide show or as long it's clearly marked enhanced.

161 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:26:16pm

re: #155 Alouette

This should have its own thread, IMO.

I don't like suggesting threads, but that ADL link is devastating, imo.

162 calcajun  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:26:25pm

re: #147 jcm

There was malice behind that picture.

"You, I don't object to man being a bastard, but I can't stand a stupid one." -Gore Vidal's "The Best Man"

163 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:26:49pm

re: #156 albusteve

I was thinking that maybe the money behind it would change things. Freedom Works and the Heritage Foundation weren't involved in the Ron Paul Tea Parties or the Ron Paul campaign. There was some slim hope that their influence would take over but it looks the other way around.

164 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:26:52pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I thought the admins would delete his comment or refute it. I haven't checked the info, but it's probably accurate. The rest of the Tea Partiers don't seem the least bit bothered by it.

Here it is the picture for the occasion.

165 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:27:52pm

re: #162 calcajun

"You, I don't object to man being a bastard, but I can't stand a stupid one." -Gore Vidal's "The Best Man"

What about stupid bastards?

They did it intentional (bastards) but in a obvious way (stupid).

166 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:27:56pm

re: #161 Sharmuta

I don't like suggesting threads, but that ADL link is devastating, imo.

It's going to be a thread.

167 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:28:11pm

re: #156 albusteve

...And yes, I agree that the situation probably cannot be salvaged. It very likely that this is going to be very very embarrassing for a lot of people. It's a PR disaster.

168 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:28:29pm

re: #164 jcm
Heh.

169 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:28:42pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

I was thinking that maybe the money behind it would change things. Freedom Works and the Heritage Foundation weren't involved in the Ron Paul Tea Parties or the Ron Paul campaign. There was some slim hope that their influence would take over but it looks the other way around.

yes...they are cooked...average folks got schooled by the pros...I'm not surprised, just disappointed

170 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:28:51pm

Jeff Frazee's work is also promoted by Lew Rockwell. Man, Googling that name brings up a sewer full of associations.

171 Jetpilot1101  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:28:58pm

I'm starting my own political party called the Rationalist Party. This white nationalist crap is getting out of control. Are people really that stupid?

172 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:29:24pm

re: #166 Charles

It's going to be a thread.

Good.

173 American Sabra  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:29:36pm

re: #164 jcm

Here it is the picture for the occasion.

Yikes! Where does that come from? The bridal registry at NordStromfront?

174 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:29:52pm

re: #166 Charles

It's going to be a thread.

Cool!

175 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:30:01pm

re: #170 Charles

Jeff Frazee's work is also promoted by Lew Rockwell. Man, Googling that name brings up a sewer full of associations.

Lew Rockwell again?...that asshole is everywhere

176 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:30:37pm

Kremlinologists used to study photos released from the Soviet Union to see who had been removed to give them insight into the power struggles.

177 Gus  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:30:38pm

The Freedom Works site is an American Family Association website as some of you know.

178 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:30:40pm

re: #171 Jetpilot1101

I'm starting my own political party called the Rationalist Party. This white nationalist crap is getting out of control. Are people really that stupid?

We need something.....
The political situation has departed controlled flight.

179 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:31:21pm

re: #166 Charles

It's going to be a thread.

Then I'm glad Bloodnok mentioned the number of folks coming in to see the original Beirut fauxtographs. It made me look at the referrers list, and I couldn't help notice diggers looking at the ron paul/don black photo. Digg finally pays off.

180 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:31:37pm

re: #173 American Sabra

Yikes! Where does that come from? The bridal registry at NordStromfront?

Looks like memorabilia. I know a couple of WWII collectors who have stuff like that. Others are more into the Nazi connection.

181 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:31:58pm

re: #179 Sharmuta

Then I'm glad Bloodnok mentioned the number of folks coming in to see the original Beirut fauxtographs. It made me look at the referrers list, and I couldn't help notice diggers looking at the ron paul/don black photo. Digg finally pays off.

You did good.

182 Jetpilot1101  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:32:30pm

re: #178 jcm

We need something.....
The political situation has departed controlled flight.

As far as I'm concerned, the political situation has done a UFIT: Uncontrolled Flight Into Terrain. CFIT or UFIT episodes never end well and this one is no exception.

183 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:32:31pm

re: #181 DEZes

You did good.

My friend Killgore has taken a lot of shit. I'm glad I could back him up.

184 calcajun  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:32:36pm

re: #157 DEZes

Absolutely!

I see things like this and cannot help but be reminded of the power the Klan had in the first half of the 20th century. Men who wanted to get into politics and wanted to advance had no choice but to curry favor with the Klan if not join out right. Justice Hugo Black, Senator Robert Byrd and Governor George Wallace are prime examples. All of these men, too, renounced the Klan in the end--in the case of Byrd and Wallace only after the power of the Klan had been broken.

That leads me to the point--why go back and court them again? They are a marginal group--the right kook fringe. The only good which can come from this is to enure to the benefit of the left--not the GOP.

185 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:34:28pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

My friend Killgore has taken a lot of shit. I'm glad I could back him up.

I know he has, and wrongfully so.

186 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:35:37pm

re: #182 Jetpilot1101

As far as I'm concerned, the political situation has done a UFIT: Uncontrolled Flight Into Terrain. CFIT or UFIT episodes never end well and this one is no exception.

I was hoping the "into Terrain" part had not yet occurred, still time for recovering.

We just need to tend to the business at hand and not distractions.

187 albusteve  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:36:08pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

My friend Killgore has taken a lot of shit. I'm glad I could back him up.

I only gave him a little shit...and not for content or effort

188 Randall Gross  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:36:13pm

To see how joining a rally with these people can affect you, here's MM, whose heart is in the right place, but if you look behind her it looks like she's campaigning for Ron Paul. You also see "obama's a sekret muslim" signs and "end the fed" etc.

189 Bloodnok  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:37:39pm

re: #179 Sharmuta

Then I'm glad Bloodnok mentioned the number of folks coming in to see the original Beirut fauxtographs. It made me look at the referrers list, and I couldn't help notice diggers looking at the ron paul/don black photo. Digg finally pays off.

:)

190 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:38:25pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Actually it's been just the reverse here in Atlanta. One of the original organizers of Atlanta's try of their 1st tea party (back in February) was Jason Pye, a Libertarian Party activist. He was off put later (for the April one) due to the emergence of Gingrich (American Solutions) partnered with Tax Day Tea Party for the April 15th one.

Again as I stated before, I did see a couple of Ron Paul signs at that 4/15 Atlanta rally, but they were as ignored by the 20K + in attendance as the traffic lights were that day

191 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:40:08pm

re: #188 Thanos

Yup, I think Malkin posted that video on her blog and nobody said a word about it.

192 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:40:28pm

re: #189 Bloodnok

This is a great community- where we can all work off each other's ideas and comments. {Group Hug!}

193 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:40:28pm

saw the Lord of Song, Leonard Cohen live, recently. The poor guy, he had all of his money stolen, he is 74 years old and still has to work.

He put on a wonderful show and he may be 74, but he still has it. It was worth every penny I spent to see him, what a great show he put on.

If anyone here is a Cohen fan, I highly recommend seeing him.

194 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:42:03pm

Kevin Laue knows what would happen if a college basketball team took a chance on him and he didn't pan out. Fans would wonder what the coach was thinking in using a scholarship on a center missing his left hand.

"It's a business," the 6-foot-10 Laue said. "Their jobs are all on the line. It's much safer to take a two-handed guy my size that got beat by me."

But Manhattan College's Barry Rohrssen figures coaches take chances all the time. He'd rather take one on Laue, whose left arm ends just past the elbow. So last week, the Division I school signed the center, and Rohrssen is confident his work ethic will rub off on other players.

"We take chances on kids who have poor academic histories, who have disciplinary problems both on the court and off the court," Rohrssen said Tuesday. "We give opportunities to players who don't appreciate them, who take them for granted. For all the right reasons, Kevin deserves this chance, and he should make the most of this opportunity."

195 gmsc  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:42:05pm

OT: Ear Leader is now here in Las Vegas.

196 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:42:20pm

I've been dreading this upcoming July 4th. On a day of patriotism canservatives across the country are going to attend Ron Paul rallies with White Nationalists and Truthers. It's too late to stop it.

197 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:42:29pm

re: #195 gmsc

OT: Ear Leader is now here in Las Vegas.

Is he going to say come to Vegas?

198 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:42:38pm

re: #192 Sharmuta

This is a great community- where we can all work off each other's ideas and comments. {Group Hug!}

Best group of folks on the Web...

199 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:43:06pm

re: #195 gmsc

OT: Ear Leader is now here in Las Vegas.

Crap! Is that why the line on the NorKs keeps shifting?

200 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:43:08pm

re: #196 Killgore Trout

I've been dreading this upcoming July 4th. On a day of patriotism canservatives across the country are going to attend Ron Paul rallies with White Nationalists and Truthers. It's too late to stop it.

That's why it's important to let people know now what to be on the lookout for.

201 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:43:15pm

re: #195 gmsc

OT: Ear Leader is now here in Las Vegas.

Is he going to finish what he started?

202 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:43:32pm

re: #190 sattv4u2

Is you Tea Party sponsored by FreedomWorks? If so, you have a problem. I won't research your Tea Party for you because it probably won't help.

203 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:43:51pm

re: #201 Fenway_Nation

Is he going to finish what he started?

FN ... what would that be?

204 Steffan  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:44:03pm

James Taranto posted a link to the new moronic convergence:

The growing harmonic convergence of apocalyptic stupidity that goes under the rubric 2012 or "the Mayan Calendar Prophecy" has not yet reached Y2K proportions. And while it's broken out of the New Agey cult status where it's been fermenting for some years, there are still many in the chattering classes who haven't heard about it. "The end of the world in 2012?" my friend Stanley said. "You mean I have to wait that long?"

The cult around the date Dec. 21, 2012—the supposed apocalyptic final day on something referred to knowingly as "The Mayan 'Long Count' Calendar"—has been the subject of fevered fantasies on the net and the free New Age "magazines" given away at health-food stores. But last week Newsweek gave it serious attention, and there's a metastasizing web of 2012 sites, including at least one anti-2012 site, which has a section devoted to debunking the apparently limitless number of gullible airheads who have become 2012 believers.

What are these people smoking, and why aren't they sharing?

205 jamgarr  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:44:21pm

I thought we were supposed to stay away from Vegas?!

206 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:44:21pm

re: #195 gmsc

OT: Ear Leader is now here in Las Vegas.

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

207 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:44:35pm

re: #196 Killgore Trout

I've been dreading this upcoming July 4th. On a day of patriotism canservatives across the country are going to attend Ron Paul rallies with White Nationalists and Truthers. It's too late to stop it.

Well I'll be at the Naval Academy in Annapolis checking the teeth of all the new Midshipmen, so not me.

208 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:45:02pm

re: #202 Killgore Trout

Is you Tea Party sponsored by FreedomWorks? If so, you have a problem. I won't research your Tea Party for you because it probably won't help.

Checked before I went,, no it wasn;'t and 7/04 isn;t

209 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:45:09pm

re: #200 Sharmuta

The alarm bells have been ringing for so long and those still participating and promoting these events don't care and are in deep denial. I don't think there's anything that can wake them up in time.

210 JHW  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:45:33pm

re: #204 Steffan

History channel joined in this last night.

211 gmsc  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:45:46pm

re: #197 jcm

Is he going to say come to Vegas?

Our governor asked him to apologize for his earlier comments about Vegas, that scared so much business away, and Ear Leader refused.

I'm going to guess "No."

212 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:46:11pm

re: #204 Steffan

James Taranto posted a link to the new moronic convergence:

What are these people smoking, and why aren't they sharing?


re: #210 JHW

History channel joined in this last night.

Teh Krazee sells, baby! It sells.

213 Winslow  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:46:36pm

Fauxtoclone
(with apologies to Paul Simon)

When I think back on all the crap the media fed me,
It’s a wonder I still have a clue.
But the exposure of Fauxtography has freed me;
This propaganda I can now see through.

Fauxtoclone
They give us those nice thick smoke trails,
And “Green Helmet” posing entrails;
Make you think all Beirut was blown away.
They got a fauxto program,
They love to make a fauxtograph.
Oh mama, please take their Fauxtoclone away.

If you took all the phony pictures propagated,
And brought them all together in one file,
You’d have a testament to treason unabated;
You’d have a monumental lying pile.

Fauxtoclone
They give us a fake construction,
They give us a staged production;
Make you think day is night, and night is day.
They’re in the fauxto business,
Disseminating fauxtographs.
Oh mama, please take their Fauxtoclone away.

And so in all the mainstream media publications,
From Reuters wires to the New York Times,
There is a flood of fauxtographic fabrications;
There is a trail of journalistic crimes.

Fauxtoclone
They give us a mocked-up missile,
They give us clean toys in rubble;
Make your heart bleed; emotions they will sway.
They run a fauxto racket,
Distributing their fauxtographs.
Oh mama, please take their Fauxtoclone away.

If you count all the times Flat Fatima’s been homeless,
And all the times the IDF’s been framed,
And all the Pallywood productions foisted on us,
You’ll realize the MSM’s to blame.

Fauxtoclone
They give us contrived depictions,
They give us misleading captions;
Make you think good is bad, and bad’s okay.
They’re fauxto-journalistas,
Subverting truth with fauxtographs.
Oh mama, please take their Fauxtoclone away.

214 gmsc  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:46:40pm

re: #201 Fenway_Nation

Is he going to finish what he started?

Well , he didn't start this country, but he's doing his best to finish it off.

215 Gus  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:46:44pm

re: #182 Jetpilot1101

As far as I'm concerned, the political situation has done a UFIT: Uncontrolled Flight Into Terrain. CFIT or UFIT episodes never end well and this one is no exception.

216 Bloodnok  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:46:49pm

re: #209 Killgore Trout

The alarm bells have been ringing for so long and those still participating and promoting these events don't care and are in deep denial. I don't think there's anything that can wake them up in time.

I's suportin' the Tee Parteez! Ignorin' yer linkz!

217 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:46:57pm

re: #211 gmsc

Our governor asked him to apologize for his earlier comments about Vegas, that scared so much business away, and Ear Leader refused.

I'm going to guess "No."

The One doesn't like the competition for disposable (or not so disposable) income.

218 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:47:13pm

re: #203 JacksonTn

FN ... what would that be?

The end of the hospitality/convention business in Las Vegas.

Not to mention all the ancillary business that goes with it.

219 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:47:55pm

re: #214 gmsc

Well , he didn't start this country, but he's doing his best to finish it off.

I disagree. I think he hasn't even cleared off his desk and really started in on it yet. I worry what would happen if when he really settles down and gets to work on the project.

220 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:47:58pm

re: #194 Nevergiveup

Interesting...I'll check him out...With one hand he would have to be a monster inside or a great shooter.. With no cross over..You would really only be guarding his one side and pushing him his left...
Thanks for the post

221 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:48:34pm

re: #220 HoosierHoops

Interesting...I'll check him out...With one hand he would have to be a monster inside or a great shooter.. With no cross over..You would really only be guarding his one side and pushing him his left...
Thanks for the post

First I heard of it also.

222 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:48:54pm

re: #218 Fenway_Nation

The end of the hospitality/convention business in Las Vegas.

Not to mention all the ancillary business that goes with it.

The Bunny Ranch !

223 Steffan  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:48:58pm

re: #215 Gus 802

Real expensive lawn darts, aren't they?

/

224 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:49:23pm

Today, in Canada the so-called Conservative government announced the biggest deficit, ever. 50 Billion dollars. That's billion with a B folks.

At least the stinking Liberals, under Crouton, the semi literate bumpkin from Quebec ran with no deficits.

Just makes me want to puke. Or vote Liberal.

225 gmsc  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:49:42pm

From the politics links: Obama To Nevada: Drop Dead

226 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:50:07pm

re: #218 Fenway_Nation

The end of the hospitality/convention business in Las Vegas.

Not to mention all the ancillary business that goes with it.

FN ... all they need to do is make some sort of "Shrine to Obama" there ... maybe somewhere around the Bellagio Dancing Waters ... it would be a big draw ...

/

227 wiffersnapper  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:50:11pm

Surprised that missile launch one that was on LGF last year wasn't mentioned.

228 Gus  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:50:17pm

re: #223 Steffan

Real expensive lawn darts, aren't they?

/

Yeah. They ignored two altitude alerts.

229 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:50:28pm

re: #208 sattv4u2

I just checked the webpage of the Atlanta Tea Party. You have big problems but I assume you knew that already. I'm not going to point them out or argue then with you because it's pointless. Go ahead, do what you want.

230 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:50:33pm
231 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:50:41pm

re: #225 gmsc

From the politics links: Obama To Nevada: Drop Dead

He's got the Midas touch.....

Anything he touches turns into a muffler and just blows from there on out.

232 screaming_eagle  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:50:52pm

re: #204 Steffan

You mean the world isn't gonna end in Dec 2012? Damn, there goes my debt repayment plan.

233 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:50:53pm

re: #226 JacksonTn

FN ... all they need to do is make some sort of "Shrine to Obama" there ...

/

Unemployment office. They just haven't changed the name yet.

234 gmsc  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:50:57pm

re: #222 sattv4u2

The Bunny Ranch !

Actually, that's one county over, in Nye County (Vegas in in Clark County).

The mayor of Pahrump (home of most of the legal brothels in Nye County) is even helping Vegas clean up illegal prostitution (less competition here).

235 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:51:01pm

re: #216 Bloodnok

I can haz fashizm?

236 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:51:23pm

re: #229 Killgore Trout

this one?
[Link: www.atlantateaparty.net...]

237 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:51:30pm
238 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:51:35pm

re: #233 Guanxi88

Unemployment office. They just haven't changed the name yet.

Guanxi88 ... laughing ... but so sad ...

239 Gus  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:51:43pm

re: #231 Fenway_Nation

He's got the Midas touch.....

Anything he touches turns into a muffler and just blows from there on out.

Can we call him Goldfinger?

240 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:52:19pm
241 Randall Gross  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:52:19pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

Yup, I think Malkin posted that video on her blog and nobody said a word about it.

To Langer's credit they now bring big blue arrows marked "tea party crasher" and park someone with them next to the Pautards.

Langer from IFL is one of the sane organizers of tea parties, the left is calling him an astroturfer, so he must be somewhat effective.

242 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:52:48pm

re: #239 Gus 802

Can we call him Goldfinger?

Thats not what I call him. ;)

243 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:52:53pm
244 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:52:56pm

re: #234 gmsc

Actually, that's one county over, in Nye County (Vegas in in Clark County).

The mayor of Pahrump (home of most of the legal brothels in Nye County) is even helping Vegas clean up illegal prostitution (less competition here).

Yes ,,, I know (but I'm not at liberty to tell you HOW I know!)

245 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:53:19pm

re: #236 sattv4u2

Yes, I'm not going to quibble with you about it. if you don't wee anything wrong there then I can't help you by pointing it out.

246 Gus  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:53:19pm

re: #242 DEZes

Thats not what I call him. ;)

Stinkyfinger?

//No reference to our Stinky.

247 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:53:26pm
248 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:53:37pm

re: #153 Charles

Wow. That's some seriously bad stuff.

A site associated with Dick Armey and Steve Forbes is promoting white nationalists.

The other commenters just went right past that first comment as if it weren't even there.

The comment that KT quoted was the last one. It's dated after all the rest.

249 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:54:03pm
250 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:54:07pm

re: #153 Charles

Wow. That's some seriously bad stuff.

A site associated with Dick Armey and Steve Forbes is promoting white nationalists.

The other commenters just went right past that first comment as if it weren't even there.

Good grief! That first comment was completely ignored. Well-written and documented, too.

251 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:54:41pm

re: #246 Gus 802

Stinkyfinger?

//No reference to our Stinky.

I better not type it, there are ladies present. ;)

252 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:54:55pm

re: #250 reine.de.tout

Good grief! That first comment was completely ignored. Well-written and documented, too.

Wonder when It gets deleted..
{reine}

253 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:54:58pm

re: #235 Killgore Trout

I can haz fashizm?

re: #239 Gus 802

Can we call him Goldfinger?

Well, he does have a floating airship of doom, like something out of Jules Verne:

254 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:55:20pm
255 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:55:23pm

Steve Forbes? Say it ain't so....

256 gmsc  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:55:37pm

re: #226 JacksonTn

FN ... all they need to do is make some sort of "Shrine to Obama" there ... maybe somewhere around the Bellagio Dancing Waters ... it would be a big draw ...

/

Funny you should say "Bellagio" - he's appearing in the Coliseum at Caesars Palace - right next door to the Bellagio!

Correction on previous link: Obama To Nevada Governor: Drop Dead

257 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:56:35pm

re: #256 gmsc

Funny you should say "Bellagio" - he's appearing in the Coliseum at Caesars Palace - right next door to the Bellagio!

Correction on previous link: Obama To Nevada Governor: Drop Dead

gmsc ... lol ... ha ha ... the Coliseum ... I bet he is bringing his traveling columns!

258 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:57:14pm

re: #245 Killgore Trout

Yes, I'm not going to quibble with you about it. if you don't wee anything wrong there then I can't help you by pointing it out.

But you stated who is running it. That Freedom Works is a "sponser" is troublesome, but not deadly, IMHO. I have spoken to two out of the three people on the masthead and it is ther claim that FW is supplying nothing more than advice re: permit applications and insurance advice

259 Fenway_Nation  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:57:29pm

re: #256 gmsc

Should I be attributing 0bama's actions to date to sheer stupidity and inexperience? Or is he intentionally trying to undermine this country's National security and economy?

260 gmsc  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:58:00pm

re: #259 Fenway_Nation

Should I be attributing 0bama's actions to date to sheer stupidity and inexperience? Or is he intentionally trying to undermine this country's National security and economy?

Either way, the result is the same.

261 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:58:16pm

re: #259 Fenway_Nation

Should I be attributing 0bama's actions to date to sheer stupidity and inexperience? Or is he intentionally trying to undermine this country's National security and economy?

50/50? 40/60?

Questions like that one keep me awake and concerned.

262 ShanghaiEd  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:58:17pm

re: #149 Killgore Trout

Wow. Here's another facet of FreedomWorks' shady background, from the 2006 WaPo:

In 2001, Jennifer B. Chace heard an insurance broker's pitch for a new insurance company marketing tax-free medical savings accounts. She jumped at the offer, but first, the broker told her, she would have to sign an application -- already filled out -- that would entitle her to a low group rate.

With that signature, Chace, a Florida dentist in the market for health insurance, unwittingly joined one of Washington's most prominent conservative organizations, Citizens for a Sound Economy, she would later testify.

"Before I showed you this form today, did you even realize that you signed a form that was an application for membership in Citizens for a Sound Economy?" her lawyer would ask during a 2004 deposition.

"I don't know what Citizens for a Sound Economy is," she replied.

Chace's experience has brought to light an obscure arrangement between a prominent Republican businessman, J. Patrick Rooney, and a free-market interest group that has netted the grass-roots organization hundreds of thousands of dollars and thousands of new members. Citizens for a Sound Economy -- now called FreedomWorks and headed by former House majority leader Richard K. Armey (R-Tex.) -- has netted more than $638,000 and about 16,000 members through the sale of insurance policies.

263 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:58:20pm
264 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:58:20pm

re: #224 WhiteRasta

Okay, so we are in the middle of a global recession. Our biggest trading partner is tanking as well. After almost 15+ years of surpluses, which were the result of Mulroney's set ups, you are complaining about a deficit? It had to happen, and there was no way of stopping it.

265 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:59:10pm

re: #259 Fenway_Nation

Should I be attributing 0bama's actions to date to sheer stupidity and inexperience? Or is he intentionally trying to undermine this country's National security and economy?

yes

266 gmsc  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:59:23pm

BBL

267 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:59:36pm
268 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:59:57pm

Where is the LA Times Khalidi Tape? ...

/back to your regularly scheduled topic ...

269 brookly red  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:59:59pm

re: #259 Fenway_Nation

Should I be attributing 0bama's actions to date to sheer stupidity and inexperience? Or is he intentionally trying to undermine this country's National security and economy?

it's not like he doesn't have advisers...

270 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 4:59:59pm

re: #259 Fenway_Nation

Remember Jimmy Carter?

271 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:00:10pm

re: #267 momcat

jt, how are ya.

mc ... perfect ... how you?

272 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:00:39pm

re: #270 WhiteRasta

Remember Jimmy Carter?

Try not to.

273 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:01:10pm

re: #259 Fenway_Nation

Should I be attributing 0bama's actions to date to sheer stupidity and inexperience? Or is he intentionally trying to undermine this country's National security and economy?

Is it absolutely intentional?
I don't think so.

Is it sheer stupidity and inexperience?
No.

The guy has been learned and believes in a failed doctrine, socialism, he's now applying that doctrine expecting it to turn our right this time.

Is intent is Hope and Change, of the socialist variety. He believes it's a "better" way, never mind everything he is trying has been tried before and failed, it's just never been done "right" and he is The One to do it right.

274 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:01:10pm

re: #236 sattv4u2

I'll give you a freebee because this is a good one. One of your main sponsors is the Don't Go Movement. Go to their webpage. They are part of the American Liberty Alliance. From the American Liberty Allience facebook group....
Young Obamanian ape seen in Kenya
Read the comments, Nobody's offended. Paulian and national Tea Party spokesman Eric Odom (Chicago, IL) is the Co-Founder/Director of the American Liberty Alliance.
Like I sad, You got problems.

275 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:02:03pm
276 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:02:24pm

re: #236 sattv4u2

this one?
[Link: www.atlantateaparty.net...]

satt - check out the sponsors and organizers carefully. Really.

I attended the local 4/15 event, and then started doing my own checking into the local organizers and sponsors, and did not like what I saw.

Just check into those things and be aware. Don't be blindly involved just because you think Killgore has overplayed this. He hasn't.

277 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:02:28pm

re: #275 momcat

good, kids in the tub and my sister is here.

MC ... sweet family ...

278 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:03:03pm

re: #264 BlueCanuck

I am merely pointing out that every time there is a so-called Conservative government, they run up huge deficits and make those Liberals look like conservatives.

279 brookly red  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:03:05pm

re: #273 jcm

Is it absolutely intentional?
I don't think so.

Is it sheer stupidity and inexperience?
No.

The guy has been learned and believes in a failed doctrine, socialism, he's now applying that doctrine expecting it to turn our right this time.

Is intent is Hope and Change, of the socialist variety. He believes it's a "better" way, never mind everything he is trying has been tried before and failed, it's just never been done "right" and he is The One to do it right.

I think that counts as intentional.

280 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:03:05pm

Ex-NYPD Top Cop Likely Faces Indictment (11/8/2007)
CBS 2 HD has learned that former NYPD Commissioner Bernard Kerik has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Washington on charges of making false statements to White House officials during his vetting for the position of Secretary of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

[Link: wcbstv.com...]

The Feds have no sense of humor?

281 DEZes  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:03:22pm

Lizards, I am whooped, take care.

282 screaming_eagle  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:03:44pm

re: #270 WhiteRasta

Remember Jimmy Carter?

We got a new and improved Carter in the White House now.

283 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:03:48pm
284 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:04:32pm
285 screaming_eagle  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:04:56pm

re: #278 WhiteRasta

I am merely pointing out that every time there is a so-called Conservative government, they run up huge deficits and make those Liberals look like conservatives.

50 Billion is a huge deficit?

286 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:04:57pm

I wonder, to return for a moment to the Fauxtography thing, why none of the many pictures of Teh One, complete with halo, etc., never made the list?

Image: obama_halo.jpg

[Link: farm4.static.flickr.com...]

[Link: farm4.static.flickr.com...]

[Link: farm4.static.flickr.com...]

[Link: farm3.static.flickr.com...]

[Link: farm4.static.flickr.com...]

Image: obama_glowing.jpg

Image: michelle_obama_halo.jpg

287 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:05:07pm

re: #274 Killgore Trout

Actually THE main sponser is American Solutions. I have spoken to theor regional director and they along with Atlanta Tea Party are making ALL final decisions

288 Gus  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:05:13pm

re: #281 DEZes

Lizards, I am whooped, take care.

So long DEZ.

289 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:05:33pm

re: #270 WhiteRasta

Remember Jimmy Carter?

May his name be blotted out......

290 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:06:13pm

re: #286 Guanxi88

Guanxi88 ... my eyes man ... my eyes ! STOP IT! ... but the one with the Halo ... oh, that's so way cool ... dreamy ....

291 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:06:22pm

re: #286 Guanxi88

I wonder, to return for a moment to the Fauxtography thing, why none of the many pictures of Teh One, complete with halo, etc., never made the list?

[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com...]

[Link: farm4.static.flickr.com...]

[Link: farm4.static.flickr.com...]

[Link: farm4.static.flickr.com...]

[Link: farm3.static.flickr.com...]

[Link: farm4.static.flickr.com...]

[Link: www.ratzingerfanclub.com...]

[Link: www.ratzingerfanclub.com...]

Silly boy the halo is real.......

///////

292 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:06:36pm

re: #290 JacksonTn

Guanxi88 ... my eyes man ... my eyes ! STOP IT! ... but the one with the Halo ... oh, that's so way cool ... dreamy ....

Creepy stuff, ain't it?

293 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:06:40pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

satt - check out the sponsors and organizers carefully. Really.

I attended the local 4/15 event, and then started doing my own checking into the local organizers and sponsors, and did not like what I saw.

Just check into those things and be aware. Don't be blindly involved just because you think Killgore has overplayed this. He hasn't.

I have ,, see my 258 and 287

294 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:06:49pm

re: #291 jcm

Silly boy the halo is real.......

///////

Oh, the halo may be real, but he isn't.

295 screaming_eagle  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:06:50pm

re: #289 jcm

May his name be blotted out......

A president with an asterick behind his name.

296 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:06:52pm

re: #281 DEZes

Lizards, I am whooped, take care.

Bbbuuutttt Dez! It's pregame! NBA tonight!
/Be well

297 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:07:03pm

re: #285 screaming_eagle

For a small country like Canada 50 biLLION is a staggeringly huge and mind-boggling deficit.

Crippling.

298 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:08:02pm

re: #274 Killgore Trout

I'll give you a freebee because this is a good one. One of your main sponsors is the Don't Go Movement. Go to their webpage. They are part of the American Liberty Alliance. From the American Liberty Allience facebook group....
Young Obamanian ape seen in Kenya
Read the comments, Nobody's offended. Paulian and national Tea Party spokesman Eric Odom (Chicago, IL) is the Co-Founder/Director of the American Liberty Alliance.
Like I sad, You got problems.

I will call my two contacts at Atlnat Tea Party and the regional person at American Solutions and bring all that to their attention.Thanks

299 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:08:26pm
300 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:08:29pm

re: #290 JacksonTn

Guanxi88 ... my eyes man ... my eyes ! STOP IT! ... but the one with the Halo ... oh, that's so way cool ... dreamy ....

Seeing images like that, it's easy to see how the masses were manipulated. We had full-on religious iconography passing as reportage, and precious few batted an eye.

301 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:09:43pm

re: #300 Guanxi88

Seeing images like that, it's easy to see how the masses were manipulated. We had full-on religious iconography passing as reportage, and precious few batted an eye.

guanxi88 ... what ... were you saying something to me ... I have fallen in love ... I am getting sleepy ... sleepy ... oh, that man ... those ears ... heaven sent ...

302 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:10:05pm

Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi told a Knesset committee meeting Tuesday that Hezbollah has more rockets than before the Second Lebanon War and is boosting it's power in South Lebanon ahead of the country's upcoming elections.

"Hezbollah is secretly bolstering its power south of the Litani River, but UNIFIL's presence is making that task more difficult. Today it has more rockets and long-range ammunition than it did before the Second Lebanon War."

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Gee this talkling/truce thing is working so well, maybe they should try it in N Korea and Iran?

303 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:10:13pm

re: #287 sattv4u2

Satisfy yourself.

304 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:10:17pm

re: #274 Killgore Trout

and BTW ,,, cute lil sucker. Some liberal will "adopt" him, live with him in a one bedroom 5th floor walk up in Brooklyn and one day he'll grow up beat the snot out of the neighbor

305 screaming_eagle  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:10:31pm

re: #297 WhiteRasta

For a small country like Canada 50 biLLION is a staggeringly huge and mind-boggling deficit.

Crippling.

I imagine it as a percent of GDP, We moved into trillions and would gladly take a 50 billion deficit. Hell we pass bills with 10 billion in earmarks alone.

306 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:10:56pm

re: #301 JacksonTn

guanxi88 ... what ... were you saying something to me ... I have fallen in love ... I am getting sleepy ... sleepy ... oh, that man ... those ears ... heaven sent ...

"He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

307 brookly red  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:11:02pm

re: #300 Guanxi88

Seeing images like that, it's easy to see how the masses were manipulated. We had full-on religious iconography passing as reportage, and precious few batted an eye.

so as to your #294, yes, this is for real.

308 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:11:09pm

re: #303 Killgore Trout

Satisfy yourself.

KT ... what ... ugh ... dude ... not in front of the ladies ...

309 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:11:46pm

Mike Tyson’s daughter dies after accident in home

I'm no fan of the guy, but that's just really sad. Condolences to the Tyson family.

310 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:12:00pm

re: #302 Nevergiveup

Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi told a Knesset committee meeting Tuesday that Hezbollah has more rockets than before the Second Lebanon War and is boosting it's power in South Lebanon ahead of the country's upcoming elections.

"Hezbollah is secretly bolstering its power south of the Litani River, but UNIFIL's presence is making that task more difficult. Today it has more rockets and long-range ammunition than it did before the Second Lebanon War."

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Gee this talkling/truce thing is working so well, maybe they should try it in N Korea and Iran?

But the UN was monitoring to prevent rearming?
Must be zionist propaganda.

//////////////

311 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:12:06pm

re: #278 WhiteRasta

Well the last time we had Conservatives in power they seemed to be in global recessions. At least the deficits aren't on the order of Trudeau era fiscal policies. As well during the Chretien era taxes seemed to be rising and benefits reduced. I do know that thanks to the Man from Shawinigan my chances of getting EI went from poor to practically nil.

312 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:12:27pm

re: #309 Sharmuta

Mike Tyson’s daughter dies after accident in home

I'm no fan of the guy, but that's just really sad. Condolences to the Tyson family.

Prayers for the family, to lose a 4 year old..........

313 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:12:32pm

re: #309 Sharmuta

Mike Tyson’s daughter dies after accident in home

I'm no fan of the guy, but that's just really sad. Condolences to the Tyson family.

shit,, I was praying for a fairy tale ending

God Speed to the little girl!

314 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:12:36pm

A million is a suitcase o full of $50 dollar bills. A Billion is one thousand suitcases.

A trillion is...... A whole peat-pot full of money.

315 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:13:02pm

re: #312 jcm

Prayers for the family, to lose a 4 year old..........

And her brother finding her- poor little guy.

316 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:13:21pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

There's not much that can be done to sway the people still interested in the Tea Parties. They know what's going on and they've made their decision.

317 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:13:49pm

re: #314 WhiteRasta

A million is a suitcase o full of $50 dollar bills. A Billion is one thousand suitcases.

A trillion is...... A whole peat-pot full of money.

I thought a trillion is a democrat's wet dream?

318 calcajun  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:14:03pm

re: #204 Steffan

Well, I will predict that it will be a very very slow Holiday sales season in 2012--until December 22, when all hell breaks lose when the idiots who had been waiting for Armageddon realize it won't happen and pack the stores in a frenzy of last minute Christmas shopping.

319 Noam Sayin'  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:14:22pm

re: #213 Winslow

You're a gem, Winslow. Nicely done.

I hope someone is collecting these into an LGF songbook.

320 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:15:04pm

re: #309 Sharmuta

Mike Tyson’s daughter dies after accident in home

I'm no fan of the guy, but that's just really sad. Condolences to the Tyson family.

Oh, that's awful.
Just awful.

Local kid here jumped from a cruise ship, apparently, either yesterday or the day before. Had just graduated from HS, on a senior trip with some friends and parents. His parents were also on the cruise.

It's just so hard to hear of young folks dying.

321 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:15:23pm

re: #311 BlueCanuck

Yes. I can't disagree with yiou there...

322 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:15:46pm

re: #320 reine.de.tout

Oh, that's awful.
Just awful.

Local kid here jumped from a cruise ship, apparently, either yesterday or the day before. Had just graduated from HS, on a senior trip with some friends and parents. His parents were also on the cruise.

It's just so hard to hear of young folks dying.

I read that. Was alcohol involved?

323 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:15:58pm

re: #276 reine.de.tout

Just curious. When you were at your 4/15 one, anyone come up to you and try to persuade you into the "white is right" camp? Any Ron Paul signs and were people rallying around THOSE instead of focusing on the protest at hand? Any New-Nazi booths set up passing out literature?

324 realwest  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:16:09pm

Drive By Post:re: #86 Dar ul Harbarian
Hey Dar - thanks for that comment! I'd received an e-mail about it today as well.
It's a potentially important and significant news story.

325 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:16:57pm

re: #323 sattv4u2

Just curious. When you were at your 4/15 one, anyone come up to you and try to persuade you into the "white is right" camp? Any Ron Paul signs and were people rallying around THOSE instead of focusing on the protest at hand? Any NewNEO-Nazi booths set up passing out literature?

pimf

326 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:17:27pm

re: #324 realwest

Drive By Post:
Hey Dar - thanks for that comment! I'd received an e-mail about it today as well.
It's a potentially important and significant news story.

What could possibly so significant about forcing a fed takeover of the banks to force a takeover of the automotive industry to benefit a favored political constituency? Worked like a charm everywhere else it's been tried.

327 calcajun  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:18:11pm

re: #312 jcm

Not even on my worst enemy would I wish the death of a child. Bless Mr. Tyson and his family tonight.

328 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:18:37pm

re: #322 Nevergiveup

I read that. Was alcohol involved?

Unknown as of now. This is the story in today's paper. The local TV news just said that he jumped, but no further details yet.

329 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:18:53pm

re: #324 realwest

Drive By Post:
Hey Dar - thanks for that comment! I'd received an e-mail about it today as well.
It's a potentially important and significant news story.

We're a banana republic; the rule of law don't mean a thing if FedGov can alter precedent, bankruptcy, and contract law to achieve a desired outcome.

330 screaming_eagle  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:19:20pm

re: #317 Nevergiveup

I thought a trillion is a democrat's wet dream?

A trillion is foreplay to a democrat.

331 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:19:30pm

How fast they fade. I didn't even know Tyson had re-married let alone had children!

332 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:21:03pm

re: #327 calcajun

Not even on my worst enemy would I wish the death of a child. Bless Mr. Tyson and his family tonight.

Tyson and family are in deep pain, right now is the time for prayer and condolences. This was a tragic accident, and they happen so fast.

333 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:21:15pm

re: #322 Nevergiveup

I read that. Was alcohol involved?

Total speculation on my part,, BUT

Graduate +
Cruise Ship +
Teenager =
you do the math!

334 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:21:32pm

re: #330 screaming_eagle

A trillion is foreplay to a democrat.

To the rest of us it's a major reaming.

335 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:21:57pm

Poor little Tyson girl was obviously left unattended for too long in a dangerous situation.
Parents need to keep in mind that a young child left unattended can get into trouble in a matter of seconds.
Such a tragedy.

336 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:22:04pm

re: #320 reine.de.tout

That's terrible, Reine.

337 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:22:32pm

re: #323 sattv4u2

Just curious. When you were at your 4/15 one, anyone come up to you and try to persuade you into the "white is right" camp? Any Ron Paul signs and were people rallying around THOSE instead of focusing on the protest at hand? Any New-Nazi booths set up passing out literature?

There were indeed some signs advocating Ron Paul and Ron Paul issues.

And a couple of speakers did make some Ron Paul-style remarks.

The crowd, of course, was well-behaved, etc.

But here's the thing - I was made aware of these attempts by these groups to get involved in these tea parties, and so I knew to be on the lookout for them and not to get taken in. But there were lots and lots of people who, really, had no idea of this undercurrent flowing through the crowd. Minor, to be sure, but it was there all the same.

And that's one of the dangers, imo, satt. That people will unwittingly get taken in. Which is why I ask you to be sure to check things out thoroughly and if you are going to get involved, at least have your eyes wide open and your wits about you.

338 ShanghaiEd  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:23:35pm

re: #258 sattv4u2

But you stated who is running it. That Freedom Works is a "sponser" is troublesome, but not deadly, IMHO. I have spoken to two out of the three people on the masthead and it is ther claim that FW is supplying nothing more than advice re: permit applications and insurance advice

Interesting that Freedom Works would be "advising" the group on insurance, seeing as FW is (somewhat surreptitiously) in the business of...selling insurance. (See my link at #262)

339 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:24:59pm

re: #335 Spare O'Lake

Poor little Tyson girl was obviously left unattended for too long in a dangerous situation.
Parents need to keep in mind that a young child left unattended can get into trouble in a matter of seconds.
Such a tragedy.

I'm sure the mother is going to spend the rest of her life blaming herself. I don't begrudge her a thing. I hope in time she will be able to forgive herself.

340 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:25:10pm

re: #337 reine.de.tout

Which is why I ask you to be sure to check things out thoroughly and if you are going to get involved

If you read my above posts, you'll see that I have. My "involvement" so far has been the same as yours, I attended the 4/15 one. But I have gone a step further in that I have spoken to 2 out of the 3 people at the head of the local as well as the regional person from gingrichs group

341 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:25:35pm

I think the GM thing is probably the most important and significant event of the year, from a domestic standpoint. NorK's beat it overall, with their recent tests, but this is big stuff. If they're still teaching law in 50 years, this will certainly be in the textbooks.

342 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:25:50pm

re: #338 ShanghaiEd

Interesting that Freedom Works would be "advising" the group on insurance, seeing as FW is (somewhat surreptitiously) in the business of...selling insurance. (See my link at #262)

And that is why the org here turned to them

343 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:26:32pm
344 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:26:41pm

re: #337 reine.de.tout

There were indeed some signs advocating Ron Paul and Ron Paul issues.

And a couple of speakers did make some Ron Paul-style remarks.

The crowd, of course, was well-behaved, etc.

But here's the thing - I was made aware of these attempts by these groups to get involved in these tea parties, and so I knew to be on the lookout for them and not to get taken in. But there were lots and lots of people who, really, had no idea of this undercurrent flowing through the crowd. Minor, to be sure, but it was there all the same.

And that's one of the dangers, imo, satt. That people will unwittingly get taken in. Which is why I ask you to be sure to check things out thoroughly and if you are going to get involved, at least have your eyes wide open and your wits about you.

Those who employ entryism are banking on people getting taken in. That's how entryism works.

345 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:26:54pm

Cock soup mix:

[Link: www.buygracefoods.com...]

346 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:27:07pm

re: #342 sattv4u2

And that is why the org here turned to them

for that (ins advice) and permit advice, I might add

347 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:27:44pm

re: #345 WhiteRasta

Cock soup mix:

[Link: www.buygracefoods.com...]

And for desert.....

348 VegasRick  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:28:44pm

re: #340 sattv4u2

Which is why I ask you to be sure to check things out thoroughly and if you are going to get involved

If you read my above posts, you'll see that I have. My "involvement" so far has been the same as yours, I attended the 4/15 one. But I have gone a step further in that I have spoken to 2 out of the 3 people at the head of the local as well as the regional person from gingrichs group

There is a "Dump Harry Reid" protest going on at "the strip" right now, as pres ozero comes to town for a fundraiser for him. Hey! Wait a minute! Didn't ozero say that folks shouldn't come to Las Vegas?

349 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:29:09pm

re: #347 jcm

I must bow to your superior sense of humor......

350 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:29:11pm
351 Gus  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:29:25pm

re: #177 Gus 802

The Freedom Works site is an American Family Association website as some of you know.

Correction. Strike that association which I incorrectly posted.

352 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:30:00pm

re: #348 VegasRick

There is a "Dump Harry Reid" protest going on at "the strip" right now, as pres ozero comes to town for a fundraiser for him. Hey! Wait a minute! Didn't ozero say that folks shouldn't come to Las Vegas?

Anyone viable there that can run against him? When does his term expire?

353 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:30:07pm

re: #347 jcm

And for desert.....

Feeling under the weather? Stamina not all it should be?

[Link: www.ioffer.com...]

354 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:31:36pm

re: #348 VegasRick

There is a "Dump Harry Reid" protest going on at "the strip" right now, as pres ozero comes to town for a fundraiser for him. Hey! Wait a minute! Didn't ozero say that folks shouldn't come to Las Vegas?

Democratic motto: Do as I say Not as I do

355 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:31:47pm

re: #353 Guanxi88

I get that email 30 times a day........

356 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:33:00pm

LGF Spy Rocks! ....

357 VegasRick  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:33:01pm

re: #352 sattv4u2

Anyone viable there that can run against him? When does his term expire?

2010. There are already radio ads that are running basically saying "just get rid of him". There are too many sound bites that this asshole will have to overcome. Not a real viable candidate yet but there is still time. Reid is toast (Thank God!)

358 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:33:36pm

re: #355 WhiteRasta

I get that email 30 times a day........

Well, I'm not the one sending it. Yeah, they use THAT part of the deer in Yang (hehehe!) tonic formulas.

359 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:33:40pm

*Spy wave to JacksonTn*

360 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:34:03pm

re: #353 Guanxi88

Feeling under the weather? Stamina not all it should be?

[Link: www.ioffer.com...]

Researchers have developed a cure for nymphomania

Image: rosieksm.jpg

361 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:34:13pm

re: #354 Nevergiveup

Democratic motto: Do as I say Not as I do

362 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:34:29pm

re: #356 JacksonTn

LGF Spy Rocks! ....

DAMN ,, now I have to put my pants on!

363 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:34:34pm

re: #353 Guanxi88

Feeling under the weather? Stamina not all it should be?

[Link: www.ioffer.com...]

Let's go for the full meal deal.....

364 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:34:40pm

re: #358 Guanxi88

My wife says I should try it.....

365 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:35:07pm

re: #356 JacksonTn

LGF Spy Rocks! ....

Hey, hey let me pull the curtains first, jeeze give a guy some privacy!

366 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:35:07pm

re: #360 sattv4u2

Researchers have developed a cure for nymphomania

[Link: www.onejerusalem.com...]

In unrelated news, rates of truly disturbing perversions among affected patients receiving this treatment, though lower than average, are far worse in their intensity.

367 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:35:58pm

re: #357 VegasRick

2010. There are already radio ads that are running basically saying "just get rid of him". There are too many sound bites that this asshole will have to overcome. Not a real viable candidate yet but there is still time. Reid is toast (Thank God!)

Thanks. Keep me posted. I have a $100 donation check all set to whoever it is

368 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:36:31pm

re: #364 WhiteRasta

My wife says I should try it.....

If you're serious, let me suggest you stick to something a little less bizarre. A good TCM practitioner would probably recommend Seahorse Bu Shin Dan instead, or Allrodeer or some other formula.

369 Sharmuta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:36:48pm

If 0bama gets another appointment to SCOTUS, I hope he considers Judge Jones (of Dover fame).

370 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:36:57pm

re: #363 jcm

Let's go for the full meal deal.....

This is what happens when people with a lot of money.....

371 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:37:40pm

re: #369 Sharmuta

If 0bama gets another appointment to SCOTUS, I hope he considers Judge Jones (of Dover fame).

My guess is that after the next Supreme Court session, Ginsburg will retire

372 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:38:12pm

re: #371 sattv4u2

My guess is that after the next Supreme Court session, Ginsburg will retire

Her work done, and confident that she'll be replaced by someone with similar views, why not?

373 VegasRick  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:38:26pm

re: #367 sattv4u2

Thanks. Keep me posted. I have a $100 donation check all set to whoever it is

Many thanks. I am going to get on this team and work VERY hard to help get him booted. He makes me want to puke.

374 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:38:27pm

re: #363 jcm

Let's go for the full meal deal.....

No way they can ever be a world power?

375 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:38:39pm

A friend of mine one asked what a kangaroo tasted like. A chinese lady said, "YOU KNOW DOG? IT TASTE JUST LIKE DOG!":

376 pingjockey  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:38:52pm

re: #365 jcm

I was laughing at the westsiders yesterday. Had to go to Chelan to pick up a lawnmower my great aunt had bought. On the way back, at the light to get onto Hwy. 2 to go to Stevens Pass or Blewett Pass the traffic was backed up for 2 miles. Mwahahaha! Traffic Jam over here, camp next to someone so close you can hear them fart and then traffic jam back! Bwahaha. I'm sure the city Fathers in Leavenworth and Chelan love it though.

377 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:39:29pm

re: #369 Sharmuta

re: #371 sattv4u2

My guess is that after the next Supreme Court session, Ginsburg will retire

she REALLY wants to be there if Roe/ Wade re-emerges but I don't think her health will allow her to stay beyond this session

378 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:39:40pm

re: #375 WhiteRasta

A friend of mine one asked what a kangaroo tasted like. A chinese lady said, "YOU KNOW DOG? IT TASTE JUST LIKE DOG!":

That is a vicious stereotype, wholly inappropriate. The lady was probably Korean, and, in any event, 'roo tastes like wombat; everybody knows that.

379 jcm  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:39:48pm

re: #370 Guanxi88

This is what happens when people with a lot of money.....

Tad exotic for my taste and pocket book.

380 NY Nana  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:39:56pm

re: #335 Spare O'Lake

I wonder if it was a gym in their home, and if the door was open. A 4-year old, unattended, can get into trouble so quickly. I worry for her 6 or 7 year old brother, who found her. May she rest in peace. No parent should ever have to bury a child.

My Mum zt"l lost a 16 year old brother from drowning over the July Fourth weekend, as she had just become engaged to my Dad zt"l, and they were at his parents' home in another part of MA for the weekend. My Mum could not swim, yet for the rest of her life she insisted that if she had been there, she could have saved him.

It is called 'magical thinking', and as the oldest sibling, she was very protective.

I was afraid to swim, as were all my cousins, because of it. I am an 'only'.

I cannot even imagine what the family must be going through. A 4-year old?

I agree that parents must do anything they can to make a home safe. I remember when our 4 were growing up, I needed eyes in the back of my head to keep a step ahead of them.

And may G-d comfort the parents. They have a very hard row to walk ahead of them.

381 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:40:32pm

re: #379 jcm

Tad exotic for my taste and pocket book.

Hell, they couldn't pay me enough.

382 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:40:56pm

re: #379 jcm

Tad exotic for my taste and pocket book.

Jeffrey Dahmer eat dick for a lot less?
/ducking

383 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:41:36pm

re: #373 VegasRick

Many thanks. I am going to get on this team and work VERY hard to help get him booted. He makes me want to puke.

n/p. My wife calls my donations the Black Hole. I haven't lived in Massachusetts for 11 years now but still donate to whomever runs against Kerry, Kennedy, Frank and a few other state office holders

384 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:43:07pm

re: #378 Guanxi88

re: #378 Guanxi88

lORD, YOU CRACK ME UP

385 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:43:12pm

re: #337 reine.de.tout

From the videos they posted on their website I think the Atlanta Tea Party had the record for Fair Tax signs that I've seen in one place. The interviews had a lot of "end the Fed" stuff too.

386 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:44:16pm

re: #375 WhiteRasta

re: #378 Guanxi88

rattlesnake tastes a lot like sirloin steak tips

387 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:44:34pm

re: #384 WhiteRasta

re: #378 Guanxi88

lORD, YOU CRACK ME UP

I do what I can. Chinese eat dog, sad to say, but Koreans, now they really like their dog.

Simply awful, awful. I've seen photos out of the Chinese dog-markets that make you weep, scream, and retch all at once.

388 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:45:02pm

re: #386 sattv4u2

re: #378 Guanxi88

rattlesnake tastes a lot like sirloin steak tips

I've heard that. Still, it's a creeping thing, so, off the menu for me.

389 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:45:06pm

re: #386 sattv4u2

It wqould be a cold day in hell.......

390 VegasRick  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:45:07pm

re: #385 Killgore Trout

From the videos they posted on their website I think the Atlanta Tea Party had the record for Fair Tax signs that I've seen in one place. The interviews had a lot of "end the Fed" stuff too.

Who's their?

391 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:45:51pm

re: #389 WhiteRasta

It wqould be a cold day in hell.......

I've eaten snake. It's ok.

392 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:46:06pm

re: #389 WhiteRasta

It wqould be a cold day in hell.......

Hey, rattlers gotta go. If someone's got a unique disposal solution, good luck to them, I say.

393 Randall Gross  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:46:29pm

Otis Redding -- Try a Little Tenderness

394 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:46:36pm

re: #391 Nevergiveup

No, never......

395 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:46:37pm

re: #385 Killgore Trout

From the videos they posted on their website I think the Atlanta Tea Party had the record for Fair Tax signs that I've seen in one place. The interviews had a lot of "end the Fed" stuff too.

As I've told you before, the Fair Tax movement was written by a Georgia legislator (John Linder) and heavily promoted by an Atlanta syndicated radio host (Neal Boortz)

NOT the Scientologists, as you've stated

396 JacksonTn  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:47:21pm

re: #393 Thanos

Otis Redding -- Try a Little Tenderness


[Video]

Thanos ... sweeeeeeeeetttt ...

397 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:47:27pm

re: #395 sattv4u2

As I've told you before, the Fair Tax movement LEGISLATION was written by a Georgia legislator (John Linder) and heavily promoted by an Atlanta syndicated radio host (Neal Boortz)

NOT the Scientologists, as you've stated

GAHHHH ,,, PIMF

398 pingjockey  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:47:33pm

BBL

399 ShanghaiEd  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:48:08pm

re: #149 Killgore Trout

Hmmm. Still no response to the question about racism on the Freedom Works site.

One hint might be that the questioner refers to the Southern Poverty Law Center as a "well-respected" organization. Which it is, in the real world, but every time I've seen SPLC mentioned on Right blogs, it's considered as Satan: "leftie," "Commie," and "hate group" being a few of the descriptors. I can only assume SPLC irritates many because it points out the unpleasant connections to white nationalism groups.

400 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:48:54pm

re: #390 VegasRick

see my 236

401 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:49:02pm

re: #394 WhiteRasta

No, never......

What, never? No. never, no nay, nevermore shall I be a mad rover.

402 sattv4u2  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:52:43pm

re: #389 WhiteRasta

It wqould be a cold day in hell.......

Driving through Colorado, stopped at a buffet place just outside of Peublo. Took some of what we thought were steak tips. Asked the waitress what they were marinated in as the were DELICIOUS. She stated they didn't serve steak tips. I pointed to my plate and said "these". She said "oh , thats not steak, thats rattlesnake"

403 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:53:47pm

re: #344 Sharmuta

Those who employ entryism are banking on people getting taken in. That's how entryism works.

Entryism.
gotta look it up.

404 Spare O'Lake  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:54:26pm

re: #380 NY Nana

I wonder if it was a gym in their home, and if the door was open. A 4-year old, unattended, can get into trouble so quickly. I worry for her 6 or 7 year old brother, who found her. May she rest in peace. No parent should ever have to bury a child.

My Mum zt"l lost a 16 year old brother from drowning over the July Fourth weekend, as she had just become engaged to my Dad zt"l, and they were at his parents' home in another part of MA for the weekend. My Mum could not swim, yet for the rest of her life she insisted that if she had been there, she could have saved him.

It is called 'magical thinking', and as the oldest sibling, she was very protective.

I was afraid to swim, as were all my cousins, because of it. I am an 'only'.

I cannot even imagine what the family must be going through. A 4-year old?

I agree that parents must do anything they can to make a home safe. I remember when our 4 were growing up, I needed eyes in the back of my head to keep a step ahead of them.

And may G-d comfort the parents. They have a very hard row to walk ahead of them.

And the worst part of it is that no matter what a parent does these tragedies can and do sometimes happen for no reason and just because of some bad luck.
Life can be a real bitch.

405 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:54:38pm

re: #385 Killgore Trout

From the videos they posted on their website I think the Atlanta Tea Party had the record for Fair Tax signs that I've seen in one place. The interviews had a lot of "end the Fed" stuff too.

yes, that's what I saw here, in a small way at the 4/15 event.
I suspect those things will become more and more prominent.

406 WhiteRasta  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:54:49pm

re: #401 Guanxi88

I would sooner jam a rutsy cop stick in my eye,,,,,

407 Guanxi88  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:55:42pm

re: #406 WhiteRasta

I would sooner jam a rutsy cop stick in my eye,,,,,

Not a Dylan fan, eh?

Well, that's all right. Proves you're really a Canadian, though.

408 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 26, 2009 5:58:17pm

re: #403 reine.de.tout

Entryism.
gotta look it up.

Worth posting the definition:

Entryism (or entrism or enterism) is a political tactic by which an organisation encourages members to infiltrate another organisation in an attempt to gain recruits, or take over entirely.
In situations where the organisation being "entered" is hostile to entryism, the entryists may engage in a degree of subterfuge to hide the fact that they are, in fact, an organisation in their own right. In the case of the Militant tendency, this was done by claiming that the tendency was in fact simply a newspaper, Militant, its editorial board and readers. Militant was open about its support for Trotskyism and revolutionary socialism. Other entryist groups have gone to the extent of hiding both their political views and their organisational existence.

Entryism does not involve dissolving the small organisation into the larger one. Entryism is often (but not always) done secretly and often in organisations run on democratic centralist lines. Entryism is seen by some as a logical conclusion from Leninist political theory which postulates that a "revolutionary vanguard" can successfully foment a revolution within a larger capitalist society, but according to some, the strategy of entryism is as old as politics itself.

409 Steffan  Tue, May 26, 2009 6:05:37pm

re: #273 jcm

Is it absolutely intentional?
I don't think so.

Is it sheer stupidity and inexperience?
No.

The guy has been learned and believes in a failed doctrine, socialism, he's now applying that doctrine expecting it to turn our right this time.

Is intent is Hope and Change, of the socialist variety. He believes it's a "better" way, never mind everything he is trying has been tried before and failed, it's just never been done "right" and he is The One to do it right.

Everything that Obama has done to this point mirrors Wilson's "War Socialism." Many of Wilson's henchmen were in the next Dem administration, FDR's. Most New Deal programs, especially the National Recovery Act, were spawned by former Wilson acolytes.

They were great admirers of Benito Mussolini, at least until he invaded Ethiopia. Mussolini enjoyed the same cult following that The One gets now, from the exact same sectors of the public.

[source: Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism]

410 Steffan  Tue, May 26, 2009 6:17:37pm

re: #363 jcm

Let's go for the full meal deal.....

That's almost as bad as the testicle cook book.

411 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 6:22:15pm
412 Pupdawg  Tue, May 26, 2009 6:25:29pm

A simple, rational explanation for fauxtography by the MSM...when lies in text alone aren't enough...just make some visual crap up too, dude!

413 NY Nana  Tue, May 26, 2009 6:27:07pm

re: #404 Spare O'Lake

And the worst part of it is that no matter what a parent does these tragedies can and do sometimes happen for no reason and just because of some bad luck.
Life can be a real bitch.

After what I saw on my maternal side? You are absolutely right. And our second son and daughter in law? My DIL was pregnant with fraternal twins, and a few weeks after going with her for a routine sonogram, where the girls were hugging each other in utero? The next one after that showed that one fetus was lacking an essential blood vessel in her umbilical cord that went to the heart. We knew that she could not survive...and just before week 25, my poor DIL went into labor. My now-9 year old granddaughter weighed 1 lb. 8 oz. Her twin died the next day. All babies are miracles, but my granddaughter? She has a number of medical problems, but is a bright, sweet little girl.

She was told at a certain age about her twin, after the kids went for counceling. About a year ago, she was staying with us for the weekend, and as I am disabled, and my granddaughter has very mild CP, she decided to stay in the car with me...all of a sudden she mentioned her twin, and was hysterical, blaming herself, and asking me what she did to cause her sister to die, and why the MD's couldn't save her. I am a retired RN, and had handled so many things, but this was just unbearable. I tried to tell her that we knew she could not survive, because of the defect, but she was inconsolable.

I honestly cannot remember what I said to her as I was cuddling her in the back seat...but she did calm down. I can only pray that she accepts the fact that she was not responsible in any way...and that she was given only a 35% chance of survival, I will never tell her. The kids do not know...I was told this by the RN on the day she was transferred to another medical center in NYC to have a problem she was born with, which is congenital, treated. My DIL also has it.

My granddaughter has not mentioned it again, but she and the kids will live with this grief for the rest of their lives. I only pray that this precious, brave child will realize that she was not responsible in any way.

That is why the big brother is in my thoughts so much. He will need therapy...he was sitting in another room, IIRC, watching TV, and went to see where his sister was. A very heavy burden to bear for all his life, when it was not one bit his fault, poor little boy.

Yes, life can be a bitch for those who have something this tragic happen....and they still have her funeral ahead of them. I just hope they will get the privacy they need so badly.

414 [deleted]  Tue, May 26, 2009 6:32:53pm
415 Mich-again  Tue, May 26, 2009 7:54:30pm

No Fauxtography here...

This is an old picture I scanned today of gramps in a truck in 1946 hauling anti aircraft gun parts. Great detail for a 63 year old photo.

416 Pupdawg  Wed, May 27, 2009 5:33:34am

I can see it now here's a virtual Want Ad posted by TNYT:

Fauxtographers Needed!
Work from home.
No assignment travel.
No dress code.
Absolutely no photography skills needed.
Must be PC and/or MAC proficient.
Creativity a requirement.
Must be highly proficient in Adobe PhotoShop, Power Point and able to meet daily deadlines.
Snag It software would be good.
All contact will be via computer.
TNYT will provide you daily with the photos-of-interest along with the proposed byline.
Your job entails doing a little to a lot of tweeking or virtually recreating the photos to reflect the papers liberal positions within the byline. Sounds complicated, but not really.
You'll catch-on in a hurry.
No training necessary.
No formal supervision.
Be your own boss.
No education requirements.
No employment history necessary as no background investigation will be conducted.
No problem with blemishes on your financial or with criminal records.
We don't care actually.
Use of illegal drugs is encouraged for this position requiring daily inspirational creative work.
Must join the Union.
Union wages with excellent benefits.
Awards in journalism guaranteed.
No need to know what journalism is, means or even looks like.
Paid vacation.
Two hours of work maximum a day.
Government provided Health Care.
No potential for legal action regardless of your creations.
You can never be fired.
No disciplinary actions will ever be taken against you.
In our long history TNYT has never done so against any employee. Must be at least 12 years-of-age to apply.
No IQ necessary.
GED? Who cares, we don't.
Formal education is passe'.
Must be a citizen of the world.
Conservatives and/or Republicans need not apply since we already have a couple in our employ.
Our quota is filled in this area.
Apply online.
Apply often.

417 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, May 27, 2009 7:14:30am

re: #20 Sharmuta

As far as I'm concerned, the Beruit photo is the holy grail of fauxtography.

Definitely, but I think my effort should get a mention too:

Image: faux1-1.jpg


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