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There is a growing tendency to think of man as a rational thinking being, which is absurd. There is simply no evidence of any intelligence on the earth.
— Marvin the Martian
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thelongblogger Tue, May 26, 2009 11:13:35pm |
There's no evidence for yesterday's sunrise.
Even less for tomorrow's....
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 11:13:36pm |
Is the Muslimah running against Kevin McCarthy?
Looks like duelleing banner ads.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, May 26, 2009 11:14:53pm |
re: #2 Fenway_Nation
Is the Muslimah running against Kevin McCarthy?
Looks like duelleing banner ads.
I've got Ann Coulter again.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 11:16:58pm |
re: #3 gmsc
Bugs BUnny in The Hasty Hare:
[Video]
Well, Bugs isn't always rational, but he always managed to get the better of that little Martian. Goodnight, all.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 11:17:20pm |
re: #5 Dark_Falcon
Well, Bugs isn't always rational, but he always managed to get the better of that little Martian. Goodnight, all.
G'nite, Dark Falcon!
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 11:17:30pm |
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:19:08pm |
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 11:19:48pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, May 26, 2009 11:20:52pm |
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:21:21pm |
re: #3 gmsc
Bugs BUnny in The Hasty Hare:
[Video]
"What infantile minds. How Buck Rogers can you get." //
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Dark_Falcon Tue, May 26, 2009 11:21:52pm |
re: #7 Fenway_Nation
Breaking: Massive Explosion Destroys Police Building in Lahore, Pakistan
Uh, oh. Not a real surprise, but still bad news.
Goodnight for real this time.
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:23:04pm |
re: #13 Dark_Falcon
Uh, oh. Not a real surprise, but still bad news.
Goodnight for real this time.
Have a good one.
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tradewind Tue, May 26, 2009 11:23:23pm |
So BHO's first crack at the SCOTUS gives us a justice who thinks it's a great thing (even though she knows she ' shouldn't...giggle... we're on tape ' ).....that she'll not only get to interpret our laws, she'll get to re-write 'em.
After all, a wise Latina woman's viewpoint is always superior to a stodgy old male white guy's. ....and never mind those pesky elections. She knows they're all fraudulent, and it's her job to overturn the misguided will of the ignorant people.
/sarc/
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 11:24:44pm |
re: #17 tradewind
Something about her reminds me of Cynthia McKinney.
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tradewind Tue, May 26, 2009 11:25:05pm |
re: #7 Fenway_Nation
Dammit, those wacky Pakis, at it again.
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:26:19pm |
re: #19 pink freud
Something about her reminds me of Cynthia McKinney.
Eek! I was looking through some of her background this morning and afternoon. One of her conclusions for a decision? One sentence.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 11:26:28pm |
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tradewind Tue, May 26, 2009 11:27:11pm |
re: #19 pink freud
Something=the deep seated anger/resentment at the very system and country that made possible her success.
They have that in common.
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 11:28:09pm |
re: #21 Gus 802
She appears to have somewhat of a dull intellect. I see nothing "sharp" there, either in the eyes, the demeanor, or for that matter, in any of her decisions I've read about today.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 11:30:24pm |
re: #26 Sharmuta
Sotomayor's record look pretty moderate, frankly.
I don't care for the Didden v. Village of Port Chester decision of which she was a part, though.
Here's a 2006 blog post on the decision, as well.
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:30:28pm |
re: #27 pink freud
She appears to have somewhat of a dull intellect. I see nothing "sharp" there, either in the eyes, the demeanor, or for that matter, in any of her decisions I've read about today.
She's the perfect bureaucrat. Toe the party line more or less. Kind of fits in with the mayorship style of the administration. City council material.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 11:31:32pm |
Believe it or not, I see some similarities between what's happening in Pakistan and Mexico right now....
Governments with tenuous authority in many parts of their own country finally deciding to take the fight to the de-facto criminal heirarchy that's been entrenched in there for years.
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:32:02pm |
re: #29 gmsc
I don't care for the Didden v. Village of Port Chester decision of which she was a part, though.
Here's a 2006 blog post on the decision, as well.
Yikes. So she went one further to a Kelo v. City of New London decision?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, May 26, 2009 11:32:08pm |
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sngnsgt Tue, May 26, 2009 11:33:13pm |
re: #24 Gus 802
Saw Rush on the Snakes and Arrows tour a few month ago. They're still rockin' for a couple of old farts.
/I resemble that remark. ;-)
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pink freud Tue, May 26, 2009 11:33:16pm |
re: #30 Gus 802
She's the perfect bureaucrat. Toe the party line more or less. Kind of fits in with the mayorship style of the administration. City council material.
Ha. Descriptive, yes.
Appears to have permanent carry of the "minority as victim" card also.
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astronmr20 Tue, May 26, 2009 11:33:31pm |
[Link: www.ndtv.com...]
A powerful car bomb went off in Pakistani city of Lahore on Wednesday, killing forty people and injuring over 150.
The blast took place near Civil Lines, Mall Road. The area is close to Lahore High Court and Punjab Assembly building.
The impact shattered windows of nearby buildings and destroyed several cars.
Rescue teams have been dispatched to the site. The area has been cordoned off.
There are reports of firing by unidentified gunmen. Reports say intermittent firing is on following the blast.
Police commandos have taken position in nearby buildings. The army has been called in.
Two suspects have been arrested, reports say. No group has claimed responsibility for the attack.
The rescue operations are on. Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari orders probe into the blast.
Pakistan's interior ministry chief Rehman Malik says the blast could be result of military operation against the Taliban in Swat valley.
PTI adds: The attack was apparently aimed at the Punjab province headquarters of the ISI, Pakistan's intelligence agency.
The explosion occurred near the crowded Civil Lines area that houses several buildings, including the Punjab headquarters of the ISI.
The city police headquarters is also located close to the blast site which saw thick smoke billowing into the sky.
Police said it was not yet clear whether it was a suicide attack or an implanted device that went off.
The blast comes less than two months after the attack on the Police academy at Manawan, close to Lahore on March 30 this year, when armed gunmen laid a siege resulting in the killing of 10 people including eight policemen.
Lahore was also the scene of an attack on the visiting Sri Lankan cricket team on March 3, in which eight people, including six police officials were killed and six cricketers were injured.
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 11:34:45pm |
re: #30 Gus 802
She's the perfect bureaucrat. Toe the party line more or less. Kind of fits in with the mayorship style of the administration. City council material.
It just says she was on the panel. What was her vote, or decision? Was it unanimous?
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 11:34:59pm |
re: #37 pink freud
Ha. Descriptive, yes.
Appears to have permanent carry of the "minority as victim" card also.
Ah yes....the card that apparently has no expiration date.
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:35:27pm |
re: #37 pink freud
Ha. Descriptive, yes.
Appears to have permanent carry of the "minority as victim" card also.
Oh yeah. I knew that when I saw "Latina" this morning. You know anyone can call themselves whatever they want but I know what that means. Latina, latino, hispanic, et al. I'm from Argentina. I don't use any of those words: I'm an a American.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 11:35:48pm |
re: #34 Sharmuta
What does that mean, "unsigned"?
It means the judges on the panel supporting the decision didn't sign the decision individually.
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slokat Tue, May 26, 2009 11:36:14pm |
OT: if any of you have personal websites, check them. Just got caught up in a new round of hacking, they used an attack that attached a script to every html file on my site (including private pages that I hadn't made public). Took me four days to root out everything and get google to de-list me as an attack site.
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Sharmuta Tue, May 26, 2009 11:36:22pm |
re: #41 Gus 802
I don't use any of those words: I'm an a American.
Me too. There's no box for "Smurf".
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Fenway_Nation Tue, May 26, 2009 11:36:42pm |
re: #41 Gus 802
Apparently I could pass for Argentine when I was in some of the Andean countries (Peru, Bolivia).
I wasn't even trying....I swear!
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:37:08pm |
re: #42 gmsc
It means the judges on the panel supporting the decision didn't sign the decision individually.
So she "endorsed" the decision and "voted present."
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:38:16pm |
re: #45 Fenway_Nation
Apparently I could pass for Argentine when I was in some of the Andean countries (Peru, Bolivia).
I wasn't even trying....I swear!
It's easy to pass for being from Argentina. Most people think I'm German. No German blood though. Doh!
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 11:39:26pm |
re: #44 Sharmuta
Me too. There's no box for "Smurf".
Is that because they're anti-Smurfitic? The blueish people have had to endure so much!
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:40:44pm |
re: #48 gmsc
Is that because they're anti-Smurfitic? The blueish people have had to endure so much!
Equal rights for Smurfs now!
//
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 11:42:30pm |
A Judge’s View of Judging Is on the Record (NY Times)
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor, who is now considered to be near the top of President Obama’s list of potential Supreme Court nominees.
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freetoken Tue, May 26, 2009 11:44:05pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, May 26, 2009 11:45:25pm |
re: #43 slokat
OT: if any of you have personal websites, check them. Just got caught up in a new round of hacking, they used an attack that attached a script to every html file on my site (including private pages that I hadn't made public). Took me four days to root out everything and get google to de-list me as an attack site.
Totally unrelated to hacking but you just reminded me. If any of you have business telephones, check your bills carefully. One of my business lines got "slammed", some supposed internet advertising firms padding my ATT bill. Key Secure, Inc./OAN Services, Inc. as well as The Billing Resource/Comtel Comms., LLC. They hit me for around forty bucks apiece. ATT has credited me but I have to call these a**holes or they'll bill me again. Also planning on calling the Public Utilities Commission.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 11:48:32pm |
re: #43 slokat
OT: if any of you have personal websites, check them. Just got caught up in a new round of hacking, they used an attack that attached a script to every html file on my site (including private pages that I hadn't made public). Took me four days to root out everything and get google to de-list me as an attack site.
That's somewhat vague.
What exactly did the scripts do? Who was your provider?
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Opilio Tue, May 26, 2009 11:49:39pm |
re: #50 gmsc
A Judge’s View of Judging Is on the Record (NY Times)
OMG.
“I would hope that a wise White man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a minority female who hasn’t lived that life." -- Hypothetical nominee
Reverse the references, and such a nomination wouldn't survive 24 hours. This one will probably be confirmed.
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redc1c4 Tue, May 26, 2009 11:49:51pm |
re: #55 Pvt Bin Jammin
We finally got ammo.
"too close for guns, switching to bayonets!"
regular or air rifle?
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Gus Tue, May 26, 2009 11:49:54pm |
re: #50 gmsc
A Judge’s View of Judging Is on the Record (NY Times)
There was the "H" word again. Hispanic. They make it seem like all people of Spanish origin are the same with equal experiences. Sotomayor considers herself a New Yorcian. That's an offshoot from some literature movements: poetry, literature, etc. Her folks are from Puerto Rico. Does she know anything about Cuba and Cubans? Or Argentinians? I doubt it. Hispanic was created by the Feds for some reason I forgot now. The existence of Hispanics does not match reality. The common bond is with Spain but Hispanic implies that all people born from Spanish ancestors have equal cultural backgrounds which is not the case.
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gmsc Tue, May 26, 2009 11:51:29pm |
re: #43 slokat
OT: if any of you have personal websites, check them. Just got caught up in a new round of hacking, they used an attack that attached a script to every html file on my site (including private pages that I hadn't made public). Took me four days to root out everything and get google to de-list me as an attack site.
Any clues as to how the hackers gained access to your files?
If we're going to take this warning seriously, details would make it much more convincing.
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tradewind Tue, May 26, 2009 11:51:42pm |
re: #16 Sharmuta
Got yer Kaboom rat cheer... ..
It's actually teh bomb of a song. .. great for a workout or a run.
Pay no attention to the little jerk running around in the red shirt.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, May 26, 2009 11:52:58pm |
re: #58 redc1c4
"too close for guns, switching to bayonets!"
regular or air rifle?
We just have a regular USMC type bayonet, will that work? LOL I'll bring the Kabar too.
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theheat Tue, May 26, 2009 11:53:09pm |
re: #43 slokat
What kind of personal web sites - the ones on free hosts or the ones on dedicated boxes? Are there any other sites you know of that were hacked the same way?
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Syrah Tue, May 26, 2009 11:53:52pm |
re: #43 slokat
OT: if any of you have personal websites, check them. Just got caught up in a new round of hacking, they used an attack that attached a script to every html file on my site (including private pages that I hadn't made public). Took me four days to root out everything and get google to de-list me as an attack site.
Did they guess your password?
How do they attach a script without having administrator level rights?
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tradewind Tue, May 26, 2009 11:55:23pm |
re: #59 Gus 802
Her New Yorkiness prefers the designation ' Latina'.
(Or maybe she'd rather self-describe as Empath ).
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slokat Tue, May 26, 2009 11:55:26pm |
re: #56 gmsc
If you opened any html page on my site, the scripts loaded a page that was one pixel square in size into the middle of the open page, then tried to use it to download programs to your computer.
Google caught it and blacklisted me.
Although, one of my friends tipped me off before I found out through Google.
My host is Register.com, they have yet to respond to my email about how someone got past my password, etc.
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theheat Tue, May 26, 2009 11:59:27pm |
re: #66 slokat
Your host should be able to look at your logfiles and see where the hacker came from. If you have access to your raw data, you can probably figure out pretty easily when it occurred, and from where. It may have been someone who ran through the entire box, particularly if this is a shared hosting account.
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gmsc Wed, May 27, 2009 12:00:00am |
Today in History, May 27th:
Golden Gate Bridge opens to the public; U.N. Tribunal indicts Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic; the British Navy sinks Nazi Germany's battleship Bismarck; Actor Christopher Reeve is paralyzed.
Other notable May 27th events include:
1703 – Tsar Peter the Great founds the city of Saint Petersburg.
1907 – A Bubonic plague outbreak begins in San Francisco, California.
1927 – The Ford Motor Company ceases manufacturing the Ford Model T and begins to retool plants to make Ford Model As.
1933 – New Deal: The U.S. Federal Securities Act is signed into law requiring the registration of securities with the Federal Trade Commission.
1933 – The Walt Disney Company releases the cartoon The Three Little Pigs, with its hit song "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?"
1933 – The Century of Progress World's Fair opens in Chicago, Illinois.
1935 – New Deal: The Supreme Court of the United States declares the National Industrial Recovery Act to be unconstitutional in A.L.A. Schechter Poultry Corp. v. United States, (295 U.S. 495).
1997 – The U.S. Supreme Court rules that Paula Jones can pursue her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton while he is in office.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, May 27, 2009 12:00:27am |
re: #65 tradewind
I think the life experiences of a Latina thats been working on the Appealate court would be....um....somewhat different than that of a latina that's spent most of her life in rural New Mexico.
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 12:00:54am |
re: #65 tradewind
Her New Yorkiness prefers the designation ' Latina'.
(Or maybe she'd rather self-describe as Empath ).
Or the Royal Highness of Empathy. As Krauthammer said, empathy is useful in a private role. In fact I apply it to my on ethos so to speak. It doesn't have a place in law however especially in a judicial role. However, I don't even see her as applying empathy in a fluid manner. She uses a biased application of empathy.
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Neutral President Wed, May 27, 2009 12:00:54am |
re: #16 Sharmuta
There was supposed to be a loud Kaboom.
I thought it was an "Earth-shattering kaboom" he was waiting for.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:00:59am |
re: #68 gmsc
1933 – The Walt Disney Company releases the cartoon The Three Little Pigs, with its hit song "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?"
Sounds like a continuation of the Norks thread.
Answer: Me!
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gmsc Wed, May 27, 2009 12:01:38am |
re: #68 gmsc
Other notable May 27th events include:
1933 – The Century of Progress World's Fair opens in Chicago, Illinois.
Oh, the irony!
;)
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 12:03:11am |
re: #69 Fenway_Nation
I think the life experiences of a Latina thats been working on the Appealate court would be....um....somewhat different than that of a latina that's spent most of her life in rural New Mexico.
Exactly. "Latina" is such a sweeping generalization. How does one apply "Latina" to someone from Brazil? Or from Chile? Night and day.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:03:36am |
From a 1997 article entitled PROBABLE CAUSE FOR REJECTING JUDGE SONIA SOTOMAYOR by Ann Coulter, Human Events, 00187194, 10/17/97, Vol. 53, Issue 39.
Section: INSIDE WASHINGTON
On July 1, 1992, Nelson Castellanos was arrested in New York City outside his apartment in Harlem and charged with conspiracy to distribute cocaine. He was holding the keys to his apartment and a white shopping bag containing about $10,000, mostly in $1 and $20 bills.
That evening, pursuant to a warrant, federal Drag Enforcement Agency (DEA) personnel searched his apartment and found over 1,200 grams of cocaine, six live rounds of ammunition, a .44 caliber revolver and incriminating notebooks. All this evidence was thrown out by District Court Judge Sonia Sotomayor on the grounds that the DEA agents had not provided the magistrate with probable cause to search Castellanos's apartment.
Sotomayor is now on the Clinton Administration's fast track toward the Supreme Court.
Sotomayor ordered the evidence excluded in United States v. Castellanos because she claimed a DEA agent had exaggerated his reasons for supposing he would find drags in the apartment. On a few laughably minor points, Sotomayor found that the agent's statements in the warrant request were contradicted by the (apparently) more reliable statements of a convicted criminal who had been operating undercover for the DEA.
The "troubling" and "disturbing" inconsistencies consisted of such points as: The informant said he had not identified one of Castellanos's drug mules by name, the agent said he had; the informant said that, since turning informant, he had seen Castellanos only "going toward the door" of the apartment, but not--as the agent had claimed--that he had seen Castellanos place the keys in the keyhole of the apartment; and finally, the criminal/informant refused to pin down the date on which Castellanos approached the apartment during a particular drug buy.
Suppose the agent was wrong, even deliberately wrong, and the informant had not, for example, identified Castellanos's mule by name.
The Supreme Court has explicitly held that, despite some errors, "if sufficient untainted evidence was presented in the warrant affidavit to establish probable cause, the warrant s nevertheless valid." There was surely sufficient "probable cause" to search Castellanos's apartment, even if each of the informant's claims are to be credited. Castellanos had, after all, just been arrested with about $10,000 in small bills outside the apartment where the beacon-of-truth informant had already admittedly bought drugs from Castellanos "on numerous occasions."
Willfully Pro-Criminal
Few people would have been surprised when a search of Castellanos's apartment turned up a drug cache. Castellanos had been the focus of a lengthy DEA investigation first begun after anonymous letters arrived at the local police precinct alerting the police to Castellanos's drug-dealing. One of Castellanos's customers became a police informant and continued to buy drugs from Castellanos for more than six months. Some of these negotiations had been caught on audio and video tape by the DEA.
And, of course, drugs were found in Castellanos's apartment. It is true that evidence must be excluded and criminals set free when cops actually lie about probable cause in search warrant applications, or fail to obtain a search warrant at all--even if the search produces criminal evidence.
But when the validity of the warrant turns on contradictory statements of the investigators, the fact that drugs were found in the searched apartment would seem to support the credibility of the guy who said there was probable cause that drugs would be found. To be crediting the claims of a criminal/informant after drugs were in fact found in the search, seems willfully pro-criminal.
Remarks made by Judge Sotomayor during the sentencing of various drug dealers do little to dispel that impression.
(continued)
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Opilio Wed, May 27, 2009 12:04:08am |
re: #68 gmsc
Today in History, May 27th:
Golden Gate Bridge opens to the public; U.N. Tribunal indicts Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic; the British Navy sinks Nazi Germany's battleship Bismarck; Actor Christopher Reeve is paralyzed.
Other notable May 27th events include:
1703 – Tsar Peter the Great founds the city of Saint Petersburg.
1907 – A Bubonic plague outbreak begins in San Francisco, California.
1927 – The Ford Motor Company ceases manufacturing the Ford Model T and begins to retool plants to make Ford Model As.
1933 – New Deal: The U.S. Federal Securities Act is signed into law requiring the registration of securities with the Federal Trade Commission.
1933 – The Walt Disney Company releases the cartoon The Three Little Pigs, with its hit song "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?"
1933 – The Century of Progress World's Fair opens in Chicago, Illinois.
1935 – New Deal: The Supreme Court of the United States declares the National Industrial Recovery Act to be unconstitutional in A.L.A. Schechter Poultry Corp. v. United States, (295 U.S. 495).
1997 – The U.S. Supreme Court rules that Paula Jones can pursue her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton while he is in office.
May 27, 1977 was personally significant, but to say more would be indiscrete...
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slokat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:04:43am |
re: #67 theheat
I know when, it was 10:22p on May 16 - auto attack because all files html were changed at that same time. Plus a cgi file was added that ran the script.
The silence from the IT department at my host is bothering me. at this point all I have is a ticket.
It took days to fix because I wasn't home much this weekend & at first didn't realize that it had penetrated into my personal stored files (which the google bots also read btw).
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:04:48am |
(continued from above)
Judge Sotomayor said this to a noncitizen drug-dealer, who had just pleaded guilty to drug-dealing: "[I]t is in some respects a great tragedy for our country that instead of permitting you to serve a lesser sentence and rejoin your family at an earlier time I am required by law to give you the statutory minimum. ... [W]e all understand that you were in part a victim of the economic necessities of our society, unfortunately there are laws that I must impose."
In sentencing Louis Gomez, who also pleaded guilty to dealing cocaine, Sotomayor said, "Louis Gomez, yours is the tragedy of our laws and the greatest one that I know. ... the one our congressmen never thought about and don't think about. ...
"It is no comfort to you for me to say that I am deeply, personally sorry about the sentence that I must impose, because the law requires me to do so. The only statement I can make is this is one more example of an abomination being committed before our sight. You do not deserve this, sir."
Sotomayor is now awaiting confirmation to the federal Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit. President Clinton and Sen. Patrick Leahy (D.-Vt.) last week succeeded in pressuring Senate Judiciary Chairman Orrin Hatch (R.-Utah) to move her hearing up a week, leaving ambushed Republican senators on the committee flailing about with little ammunition. It is assumed her next nomination will be to the Supreme Court--since she "looks like America."
A few more Senate confirmations of judges like Sonia Sotomayor and America will look like the inside of a Mexican prison.
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gmsc Wed, May 27, 2009 12:05:16am |
re: #72 theheat
Sounds like a continuation of the Norks thread.
Answer: Me!
Not bad, but I prefer the Green Jelly version:
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gmsc Wed, May 27, 2009 12:06:44am |
re: #76 Opilio
May 27, 1977 was personally significant, but to say more would be indiscrete...
Well, I hope the celebration of the personal May 27th event goes well, and that it's cause to celebrate in the first place!
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:07:32am |
re: #77 slokat
Probably the techs were up to their knees in alligators, because it's more probable someone got into the top level of the box, affecting more domains than just yours. They ran a script that overwrote permissions and auto-installed through multiple domains.
No excuse for their silence, just sayin'. This kind of thing is maddening.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 27, 2009 12:08:30am |
re: #66 slokat
If you opened any html page on my site, the scripts loaded a page that was one pixel square in size into the middle of the open page, then tried to use it to download programs to your computer.
Google caught it and blacklisted me.
Although, one of my friends tipped me off before I found out through Google.
My host is Register.com, they have yet to respond to my email about how someone got past my password, etc.
Sounds like a problem with your server, rather than your site. A lot of sites that let you construct your own web pages with their own tools use templates for those pages; if the templates get corrupted, every single page they serve up that uses that template will be corrupted. They wouldn't need to know your password; they just have to hack the single server account.
Your hosting service needs to be notified. Sounds like you've already done that. It's disturbing that they haven't responded; my service has never taken more than four or five hours to get back to me, even on trivial problems, and they normally catch serious problems before I ever see them. If they haven't responded by, say, early morning, consider finding another hosting service.
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tradewind Wed, May 27, 2009 12:08:51am |
re: #78 pink freud
Sounds like a line from a Beatles song......
' we're so sorry, Uncle Albert'......
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:09:59am |
Voting record SENATE CONFIRMATION SOTOMAYOR AS 2ND CIRCUIT JUDGE (1998)
FOR CONFIRMATION: 68
REPUBLICANS FOR (26): Bennett, Campbell. Chafee, Coats, Cochran, Collins, D'Amato, DeWine, Domenici, Frist, Gregg, Grams, Hatch, Helms, Jetfords, Lugar, Mack, Murkowski, Nickles, Roth, Santorum, Smith (Ore.), Snowe, Specter, Stevens and Warner.
DEMOCRATS FOR (42): Akaka, Baucus, Biden, Bingaman, Boxer, Breaux, Bryan, Bumpers, Byrd, Cleland, Conrad, Daschle, Dodd, Dorgan, Durbin, Faingold, Feinstein, Ford, Graham, Harkin, Inouye, Johnson, Kennedy, Kerrey (Neb.), Kerry (Mass.), Kohl, Landrieu, Lautenberg, Leahy, Levin, Lieberman, Mikulski, Moynihan, Murray, Reed (R.I.), Reid (Nev.), Robb, Rockefeller, Sarbanes, Torricelli, Wellstone and Wyden.
AGAINST CONFIRMATION: 28
REPUBLICANS AGAINST (28): Abraham, Allard, Ashcroft, Brownback, Burns, Coverdell, Craig, Enzi, Faircloth, Gorton, Gramm, Grassley, Hagel, Hutchinson (Ark.), Hutchison (Tax.), Inhofe, Kempthorne, Kyl, Lott, McCain, McConnell, Roberts, Sesions, Shelby, Smith (N.H.), Thomas, Thompson and Thurmond.
NOT VOTING (4): Bond, Glenn, Hollings and Moseley-Braun.
Source: Senate Confirms Sotomayor As 2nd Circuit Judge. Human Events, 00187194, 10/23/98, Vol. 54, Issue 40
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slokat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:10:45am |
re: #81 theheat
The good thing to come of this is that being an amateur, I never realized all the free services that Google provides to webmasters.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 27, 2009 12:12:14am |
re: #77 slokat
I know when, it was 10:22p on May 16 - auto attack because all files html were changed at that same time. Plus a cgi file was added that ran the script.
The silence from the IT department at my host is bothering me. at this point all I have is a ticket.
It took days to fix because I wasn't home much this weekend & at first didn't realize that it had penetrated into my personal stored files (which the google bots also read btw).
There is no excuse for allowing this to go on as long as it has. It should have been detected and fixed within hours, not days, certainly not weeks.
Find another hosting service.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:12:24am |
re: #84 Gus 802
What was the final sentence?
That was it, Gus. "...the inside of a Mexican prison."
Sorry I am unable to give links, I am in university databases.
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tradewind Wed, May 27, 2009 12:13:16am |
re: #85 pink freud
The thing is, there's a huge difference between voting to confirm a CC justice and a justice of the SCOTUS.
But the sherpas will downplay that pesky fact.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:14:08am |
re: #90 tradewind
Yes, but I find the information interesting, and I know there are other lizards out there that like the big-picture view also.
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slokat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:14:33am |
re: #82 SixDegrees
They have templates, but I put my site together the hard way (first in the old version of Netscape & now in Frontpage), luckily that means I can re-up it from the version that is stored in my computer.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:14:37am |
re: #87 slokat
It's unfortunate when you're left to discover how to save your ass for yourself with tools provided by others. I agree with SixDegrees - get out. Find a host you don't have to elbow to make sure your shizz is up and running in the wee hours, when you sleep, or when you - gasp! - actually take your eyes off the server for a couple days.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Wed, May 27, 2009 12:14:46am |
OMG Arrrnold is on Jay Leno talking about the California deficit.
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 12:14:57am |
re: #89 pink freud
That was it, Gus. "...the inside of a Mexican prison."
Sorry I am unable to give links, I am in university databases.
OK You would think that Castellanos would have accepted the potential repercussions from said drug dealing. He was obviously a big time drug dealer.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:15:59am |
re: #96 gmsc
Goodnight, gmsc. Sleep well, see you on the 'morrow. :-)
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Pvt Bin Jammin Wed, May 27, 2009 12:16:11am |
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:16:30am |
Gus, Sharm ...you guys up for more? I'll keep digging, if so.
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SixDegrees Wed, May 27, 2009 12:16:46am |
re: #92 slokat
They have templates, but I put my site together the hard way (first in the old version of Netscape & now in Frontpage), luckily that means I can re-up it from the version that is stored in my computer.
Certainly possible that the server now attaches said script onto every HTML page it serves. It still sounds like the server has been compromised, rather than just your site.
The service's enormous delay in responding, and failure to detect the problem in the first place, is utter bullshit though.
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 12:17:48am |
re: #100 pink freud
Gus, Sharm ...you guys up for more? I'll keep digging, if so.
Either way. I'm trying to find a picture of the defendant.
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Sharmuta Wed, May 27, 2009 12:17:49am |
re: #100 pink freud
Yes- because I don't like coulter a a source. What is her source?
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Fenway_Nation Wed, May 27, 2009 12:18:37am |
re: #98 theheat
We all understand that the bedbugs are in part victims of the economic necessities of our society. Unfortunately, there is biting that they must impose.
-Sotomayor [bidding her kids goodnight]
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slokat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:19:02am |
re: #93 theheat
Thanks for the advice, was looking at options - will look harder.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:19:07am |
re: #103 Sharmuta
I don't either. The closet I can get is the Human Events Magazine reference. What I posted is verbatim from their print copy.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:21:26am |
re: #104 Fenway_Nation
Well, you'd be more tolerant if you understood their nature. You're looking at the small picture; the inconvenience of bedbugs to certain individuals.
//
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Sharmuta Wed, May 27, 2009 12:21:56am |
re: #106 pink freud
I don't doubt your integrity in copying the article, Hon.
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slokat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:23:21am |
re: #101 SixDegrees
My site is clean now, checked the logs to see if there was any new activity and made Google check again, plus I just went to it myself.
(also changed all my passwords associated with that domain)
It was probably a server wide attack, since my email account for the page was also affected.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Wed, May 27, 2009 12:25:08am |
re: #109 slokat
My site is clean now, checked the logs to see if there was any new activity and made Google check again, plus I just went to it myself.
(also changed all my passwords associated with that domain)
It was probably a server wide attack, since my email account for the page was also affected.
Than God everything is okay now. What a fiasco.
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Syrah Wed, May 27, 2009 12:25:33am |
re: #109 slokat
My site is clean now, checked the logs to see if there was any new activity and made Google check again, plus I just went to it myself.
(also changed all my passwords associated with that domain)
It was probably a server wide attack, since my email account for the page was also affected.
We use register.com where I work. What should I have our people look for? How do we tell if we have the same problem?
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tradewind Wed, May 27, 2009 12:25:37am |
re: #103 Sharmuta
Like or dislike Coulter, she's more than qualified to comment on potential SCOTUS nominees and their decisions...
Ann Coulter clerked for the Honorable Pasco Bowman II of the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit and was an attorney in the Department of Justice Honors Program for outstanding law school graduates.
After practicing law in private practice in New York City, Coulter worked for the Senate Judiciary Committee, where she handled crime and immigration issues for Senator Spencer Abraham of Michigan. From there, she became a litigator with the Center For Individual Rights in Washington, DC, a public interest law firm dedicated to the defense of individual rights with particular emphasis on freedom of speech, civil rights, and the free exercise of religion.
A Connecticut native, Ann Coulter graduated with honors from Cornell University School of Arts & Sciences, and received her J.D. from University of Michigan Law School, where she was an editor of The Michigan Law Review.
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 12:27:36am |
I won't link to the blog but I think this is a funny title:
Sonia Sotomayor: Obama’s Harriet Miers?
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tradewind Wed, May 27, 2009 12:29:23am |
re: #113 Gus 802
She's more like Obama's Josephine Biden nominee to SCOTUS.
I have a feeling she has a real keep-your-mouth-shut-when-it's-time problem.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:30:48am |
re: #109 slokat
You might think about renaming directories, even if you switch hosts. For example, your cgi-bin doesn't always need to be called "cgi-bin", and various folders that hold support files can also be renamed or aliased. If a hacker gains access directly they can probably figure out the structure pretty easily, but one at the top tier running an auto-script usually looks for folders that have names that are more typical to auto-install in. If they aren't there, then it helps throw a turd in their soup.
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Sharmuta Wed, May 27, 2009 12:32:56am |
re: #112 tradewind
When someone looks at a white supremacist site and can't see it for what it is, I have to wonder about the rest of their judgment.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:33:51am |
K ...I found some obscure NPR article to the Maher Arar extraodrinary rendition case and Sotomayer. Plugged it into a search engine and voila, hot off the presses, 22 minutes old in fact, I found this:
A case that could spell trouble for Sotomayor
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slokat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:34:04am |
re: #111 Syrah
I wish I had saved the name of the script in the cgi bin...
I found everything that was changed by comparing when I had uploaded files, to the date that was shown on that file.
After a point I realized the changed files all had the same date, so I just searched for that date.
Plus each html file was larger than the one stored in my computer.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:35:09am |
re: #118 capitalist piglet
Sounds like empathy to me, CP. ;-)
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tradewind Wed, May 27, 2009 12:35:58am |
re: #116 Sharmuta
I must have missed that one... is that where she got her data, a WS site?
I hate that.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:37:08am |
re: #117 pink freud
K ...I found some obscure NPR article to the Maher Arar extraodrinary rendition case and Sotomayer. Plugged it into a search engine and voila, hot off the presses, 22 minutes old in fact, I found this:
A case that could spell trouble for Sotomayor
A soundbite from the NPR source I found on that Arar case:
(Soundbite of courtroom)
TEMPLE-RASTON: He hasn't been allowed to do that. Judge Sonia Sotomayor grilled government attorney Jonathan Cohn on the government's position that national security trumps any other argument.
Judge SONIA SOTOMAYOR (Federal Court of Appeals): The minute the executive raises the specter of foreign policy, national security, it is the government's position that that is a license to torture anyone?
Mr. JONATHAN COHN (Government Attorney): No, your honor.
Ms. SOTOMAYOR: A U.S. citizen or a foreign citizen. License meaning that you can do so without any financial consequence - that's your position?
Mr. COHN: No. That is not our position. That, emphatically, is not our position, your honor. We're saying this…
Ms. SOTOMAYOR: So, what is...
Mr. COHN: Why don't we just get the position?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Wed, May 27, 2009 12:37:17am |
"Nite lizards, I am out. Hope I don't dream about North Korea all night.
Take care, all.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:38:18am |
re: #122 pink freud
Sorry, I meant to include this as prelude to the soundbite:
9:00-10:00 PM , Now, to one of the most famous cases of extraordinary rendition. Today, a federal appeals court in New York heard arguments in the case of Maher Arar. Arar is a Canadian citizen who was flown from the U.S. to Syria for interrogation. So far, the Bush administration has tried to prevent the case from being heard on the grounds that it would harm national security. NPR's Dina Temple-Raston reports from New York.
DINA TEMPLE-RASTON: The facts are not in dispute. U.S. authorities detained Maher Arar at John F. Kennedy airport in New York. He was suspected of terrorism ties and was sent to Syria for interrogation. He spent 10 months there in a cell he called the grave. He says he was tortured. Eventually, he was allowed to return to Canada.
A Canadian commission cleared him of all charges, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has said mistakes were made in his case. At issue today is whether he will be permitted to sue the U.S. government for violating his constitutional right to due process.
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slokat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:39:27am |
re: #110 Pvt Bin Jammin
yeah, it was fun getting a call from one of my friends that was trying to look at my photos, yelling at me that my site was attacking his computer...
/hindsight + experience = ?
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Syrah Wed, May 27, 2009 12:39:28am |
re: #119 slokat
We use them mainly for sending out large blocks of emails to our customer/client/respondent base. If the emails are somehow infected with the problem that you described, they will absolutely freak.
Do I just tell them to check the CGI bin? I am way out of my league talking about this stuff. I would like to keep our company from having a problem with this. It could be both costly and embarrassing for us.
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Sharmuta Wed, May 27, 2009 12:40:07am |
re: #121 tradewind
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Pvt Bin Jammin Wed, May 27, 2009 12:41:13am |
re: #124 pink freud
I saved all of your comments so I can look at them in the morning. Thanks.
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pink freud Wed, May 27, 2009 12:43:04am |
re: #129 Pvt Bin Jammin
You're welcome PBJ. I love digging up the old stuff. Skeletons, and all of that. :)
The link of Arar's account posted by theheat is very interesting, I am looking at it now.
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Erik The Red Wed, May 27, 2009 12:43:22am |
Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.
Posting will be very scarce the next few weeks. The movers started packing the house on Friday and will load everything up on Thursday this week. UTTER CHAOS.
A mother took her five-year-old son with her to the bank on a busy lunchtime.
They got behind a very fat woman wearing a business suit complete with pager.
After waiting patiently for a few minutes, the little boy said loudly, "Wow, She's fat!
The mother bent down and whispered in the little boy's ear to be quiet...
A couple more minutes passed by and the little boy stretched his arms out as far as they would go and announced; "Jeez Mom her bum is this wide!"
The fat woman turned around and glared at the little boy.
The mother gave him a good telling off, and told him to be quiet.
After a brief lull, the large woman reached the front of the queue.
Just then her pager began to emit a "beep, beep, beep"
The little boy yelled out,
"Run, run, run for your life, she's reversing!"
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Erik The Red Wed, May 27, 2009 12:45:09am |
I became confused when I heard the word 'service' used with these
agencies.
South African Revenue 'Service'
Postal 'Service'
Telephone 'Service'
Municipal 'Service'
Civil 'Service'
South African Police 'Service'
Customer 'Service'
This is not what I thought 'service' meant.
But today, I overheard two farmers talking, and one of them said he had
hired a bull to 'service' a few cows.
BAM! It all came into focus. Now I understand what all those agencies
are doing to us.
You are now as enlightened as I am…………………...
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:46:05am |
re: #132 Erik The Red
South African Revenue 'Service'
Postal 'Service'
Telephone 'Service'
Municipal 'Service'
Civil 'Service'
South African Police 'Service'
Customer 'Service'
Run when you hear, "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."
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slokat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:46:13am |
re: #126 Syrah
The email part I don't know.
It told me that I was trying to access an attack site when I tried to get my email online through the Register webpage, but all my pop3 forwarded email to my usual email server came through no problem.
Your company could email itself and run that email through the antivirus checks?
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Gus Wed, May 27, 2009 12:46:15am |
re: #124 pink freud
Some are guilty some are innocent. Sotomayor sounds like she was the type of judge that if you were a defense attorney you'd be high fiving each other (with your client) if she had your case.
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Syrah Wed, May 27, 2009 12:48:15am |
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Fenway_Nation Wed, May 27, 2009 12:49:58am |
re: #123 Pvt Bin Jammin
Didn't the Allies States of America nuke and invade North Korea and usurp one of their shipbuilding facilities to augment their Navy?
Of course, that was only after arranging for 30 American cities to get nuked.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 12:51:45am |
re: #134 slokat
A lot of online mail services, like Crapcast and Yahoo, embed a lot of javascript in the screens you read your email from. Any one of these could have been infected and caused all kinds of trouble.
If the email coming through the POP3 account was reduced to text only, or if the infected scripts were only on the server-based email (read through the server's program), that might explain why there were no viruses or script warnings when you read your POP3 mail on your own computer (i.e. Outlook, etc.).
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:00:14am |
re: #138 Fenway_Nation
That's not a very nice bedtime story, considering I'm West of the Mississippi. Don't you have anything where the US sends over a herd of unicorns to gore No-Dong-Jong into submission, and then it's all rainbows and free puppies?
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Fenway_Nation Wed, May 27, 2009 1:01:23am |
re: #143 theheat
The unicorns were culled because of their carbon emissions.
Turns out that wasn't rainbows they were farting out after all.
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Sharmuta Wed, May 27, 2009 1:04:32am |
I just think she's a mixed bag. Some stuff I'm not real pleased with, and a few things I think she's done right. Like I said earlier- moderate.
From what I've read of this Judge Diane Wood, she was much, much more liberal. Maybe we're lucky.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:04:45am |
re: #144 Fenway_Nation
Speaking of emissions, ever visited a large dairy farm or feedlot? There's as much to with waste management as there is to producing milk or beef. And I probably don't need to describe the smell on a hot day.
Oh, then there's pigs. There's some powerful stink. Trumps cat poop any day.
Unicorn farts smell just like Glad air freshener. And it comes in assorted scents.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:08:53am |
PIMPF - Glade air freshener. Though I suppose air fresheners could make one glad, depending on the alternative.
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kawaika Wed, May 27, 2009 1:10:15am |
"Don't you have anything where the US sends over a herd of unicorns to gore No-Dong-Jong into submission, and then it's all rainbows and free puppies?"
We could send these.
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Sharmuta Wed, May 27, 2009 1:11:37am |
re: #147 theheat
Pig farms and pork processing plant are the worst stink ever.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, May 27, 2009 1:12:34am |
re: #146 Sharmuta
Ugh....another play from the 0bama handbook. Kinda like contemplating making GIs pay for their service-related injuries with private insurance and then deciding not to do it. The MSM and his supporters congratulate him for backing away from a seriously fucked up idea that shouldn't have even been given any serious consideration in the first place.
If you're 0bama, why not float out there that you're going to nominate someone who's an unqualified stridently partisan, liberal activist on the bench for SCOTUS for a little while so that someone like Sotomayor will look good in comparison.
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Neutral President Wed, May 27, 2009 1:13:45am |
re: #138 Fenway_Nation
Didn't the Allies States of America nuke and invade North Korea and usurp one of their shipbuilding facilities to augment their Navy?
Of course, that was only after arranging for 30 American cities to get nuked.
ASA nuked North Korea and Iran, but I don't remember anything about taking shipbuilding facilities. I've only seen the middle episodes of season 1 once though.
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Sharmuta Wed, May 27, 2009 1:14:16am |
re: #151 Fenway_Nation
10 years on the appellate court is unqualified?
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:15:15am |
re: #150 Sharmuta
I consider myself somewhat of a livestock shit connoisseur, and I must agree that pig processing plants take the all-time number one position of animal stink. It would gag maggots on a gut wagon.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, May 27, 2009 1:17:03am |
re: #154 theheat
Y'know...I drive by some chicken farms on an almost-daily basis (at least I did when I had a job).
It's not like those chickens crapped cinnamon buns.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:18:49am |
re: #156 Fenway_Nation
Y'know...I drive by some chicken farms on an almost-daily basis (at least I did when I had a job).
Have you checked if they're hiring? Sounds dreamy.
/
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ArrowSmith Wed, May 27, 2009 1:21:51am |
Sotomayor - exactly as expected from the first Affirmative Action president.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:23:38am |
re: #158 Sharmuta
Good night. I have some small Tupperware containers somewhere around here...
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Fenway_Nation Wed, May 27, 2009 1:25:50am |
Good night all- while technically out of work, I do have my once-a-week gig coming up in the morning.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:27:24am |
re: #161 Fenway_Nation
Goodnight Fenway_Nation, and please remember to hold your nose in the morning if you pass the chicken farm ;-)
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redc1c4 Wed, May 27, 2009 1:30:22am |
re: #154 theheat
I consider myself somewhat of a livestock shit connoisseur, and I must agree that pig processing plants take the all-time number one position of animal stink. It would gag maggots on a gut wagon.
try being in the back of an AFV, with a bunch of GI's who haven't showered in weeks, and who's only food has been MREs and B-rats......... liberally laced with hot sauce, jalapenos, etc.....
then imagine the slit trench that goes with this delightful scenario.
pigs would be an improvement. %-)
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:34:03am |
re: #163 redc1c4
I'd have to say I'd need to compare the two, but I'm going to take your word for it. It doesn't sound pretty.
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redc1c4 Wed, May 27, 2009 1:38:11am |
re: #164 theheat
I'd have to say I'd need to compare the two, but I'm going to take your word for it. It doesn't sound pretty.
toss in triple digit temps every day..... the upside is that being mech, the constant dust clogs your nose so you can't really smell. blowing your nose and getting mud is amusing the first few times.
i once went to answer the call, and the results were so bad that my fellow crewmen fired up the track and moved to escape the smell.
/things the recruiter never mentioned %-)
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:42:29am |
I watched the Military Channel when they were talking about the tank outdits not showering for weeks at a time, and they commented about the smell. In fact, that was one of the key points they made.
I used to think I would like to be in a tank unit because I happen to like... tanks. But I have an extraordinary sense of smell, like, for real. In another life, I should have been one of those perfume tester/developer people.
Fact is, a lot of smells about knock me over. If you could bottle "that smell" you describe, I'm sure I could probably pick out what was BO, what was butt stink, what was smelly feet, etc.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:43:05am |
PIMF - tank outfits. Geez, I'm on a typo roll tonight.
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redc1c4 Wed, May 27, 2009 1:46:27am |
re: #167 theheat
PIMF - tank outfits. Geez, I'm on a typo roll tonight.
and i'm for bed.... going to City Hall to raise hell tomorrow.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 1:47:52am |
re: #168 redc1c4
Good night red. I'm looking for something in particular online here and there, and maybe I'll still be up for some fruit cup when littleoldlady gets here.
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:00:00am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:00:44am |
Fabulous. I nailed it, for once, and there's no one here to see it...
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BatGuano Wed, May 27, 2009 2:02:05am |
re: #171 littleoldlady
Fabulous. I nailed it, for once, and there's no one here to see it...
No one? BatGuano do not count?
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TheMatrix31 Wed, May 27, 2009 2:03:10am |
re: #170 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!
Woohoo!
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 2:03:21am |
re: #170 littleoldlady
Geez, I clear the room, go hunting on Craigslist, and missed your entrance. I'll have some fruit cup, thank you very much. Sharmuta wanted some, but cleared out earlier.
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:05:18am |
Matrix! :-)
theheat! :-)
[[[Sharmuta!]]] :-)
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 2:07:41am |
re: #177 littleoldlady
Among the topics tonight were the Norks, the new SCOTUS nominee, bad web hosts, and things that smell bad.
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:09:33am |
I'll take Bad Web Hosts for $100, please Alex!
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BatGuano Wed, May 27, 2009 2:09:49am |
I thought the new SCOTUS nominee and things that smell bad were the same category.
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BatGuano Wed, May 27, 2009 2:10:57am |
re: #179 littleoldlady
I'll take Bad Web Hosts for $100, please Alex!
I was thinking along those lines too.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 2:11:05am |
re: #180 BatGuano
You do know with a name like Bat Guano you have an unfair advantage discerning such things, right?
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:11:43am |
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TheMatrix31 Wed, May 27, 2009 2:11:45am |
Maybe I should DL Safari just to surf LGF? It's PAINFUL on FF, man.
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BatGuano Wed, May 27, 2009 2:11:57am |
re: #182 theheat
You do know with a name like Bat Guano you have an unfair advantage discerning such things, right?
It's part of my charm. :)
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 2:13:29am |
re: #179 littleoldlady
Apparently register.com ain't so attentive in the hosting department.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 2:14:55am |
re: #184 TheMatrix31
What's it doing? I'm using FF / Windows and it seems to be working okay.
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UncleRancher Wed, May 27, 2009 2:16:03am |
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:16:24am |
re: #186 theheat
Apparently register.com ain't so attentive in the hosting department.
I've purchased .coms from them but recently switched to GoDaddy.
/MUCH cheaper
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 2:19:07am |
re: #190 littleoldlady
slokat had some grief with a site hosted by register.com. I don't personally use them for anything, but I have clients that do.
I hate all the pages and pages of advertising crap you have to wade through with godaddy just to register or renew a domain. I feel like it's an interrogation, and they're trying to get me to slip up and click something I shouldn't to say "gotchya!"
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TheMatrix31 Wed, May 27, 2009 2:20:18am |
re: #187 theheat
What's it doing? I'm using FF / Windows and it seems to be working okay.
It hangs up on loading pages, new comments, ding menus, individual numbered comments, etc. The main site itself has major issues loading too, no idea why. I've tried clearing cache, etc. Other sites work fine.
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UncleRancher Wed, May 27, 2009 2:20:23am |
Are we beating up on the SCOTUS nominee this morning? Of course you knew this was coming, right?
theheat :-)
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:22:13am |
re: #195 theheat
True. You really have to pay attention. And I had trouble switching the (what's that called? DNS number?) But $10 beats the heck out of $35...
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 2:24:08am |
re: #197 TheMatrix31
It may just be a router thing, and the other sites you're visiting are somewhere it doesn't hang up loading. I know sometimes Crapcast almost acts like an AOL cache server, and I get a lot of funk.
re: #198 UncleRancher
I think the best thing to say at this point, is it could have been much worse. Who knows, maybe he's just softening us up, then he'll sucker punch us with the next one.
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:25:44am |
re: #197 TheMatrix31
I had that kind of day yesterday. FiOs went in-and-out. Some pages came up; others were timed out. I had to reset the modem to get everything working again.
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Erik The Red Wed, May 27, 2009 2:26:22am |
re: #170 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!
{lol} Thanks and w00t. :)
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Erik The Red Wed, May 27, 2009 2:29:34am |
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TheMatrix31 Wed, May 27, 2009 2:31:33am |
It's definitely not a modem/router issue. I reset everything at least once every few days. LGF has suddenly got like this over the past month, month and a half. It's gotten really painful :-/
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:31:57am |
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UncleRancher Wed, May 27, 2009 2:32:47am |
It is looking like we have a quorum here. Shall we take a vote?
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 2:33:04am |
re: #199 littleoldlady
They work pretty hard for every one of their $10 bills. I think they're intentionally un-intuitive. They don't want you to go host elsewhere.
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 2:35:39am |
re: #212 UncleRancher
littleoldlady can fill a room. Awhile ago it was a ghost town, and I was the Last Man Standing. I seriously need to check my deodorant.
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:37:08am |
re: #213 theheat
They're wonderful marketers, though. They have a WordPress/hosting plan that will simplify a lot of stuff for dummies like me.
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:37:39am |
re: #214 theheat
Nah. I just whine a lot until people delurk. ;-)
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UncleRancher Wed, May 27, 2009 2:38:23am |
re: #214 theheat
The fruitcup is very popular about this time of the morning. [ Be sure a upding the 0200.00 posting. ]
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 2:45:12am |
re: #215 littleoldlady
True, they include a lot of tools for the $$ I only register domains through them, though. Their tools don't really fit my program.
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Erik The Red Wed, May 27, 2009 2:47:21am |
re: #211 littleoldlady
When's The BIG Day?
Hiya, Spare! :-)
Tickets not booked yet. Sometime around the 20th June.
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:50:30am |
Grrrrr! Same "skippy" modem problems today as yesterday!
/I blame Matrix...
If I disappear you'll know that....I've disappeared.
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UncleRancher Wed, May 27, 2009 2:52:28am |
re: #220 littleoldlady
Looks like you're still here so far and I count that as a blessing.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, May 27, 2009 2:54:01am |
re: #220 littleoldlady
Grrrrr! Same "skippy" modem problems today as yesterday!
/I blame Matrix...
If I disappear you'll know that....I've disappeared.
Everyone blame the kid!
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:54:11am |
{UncleRancher}! :-)
/...May the Internet Gods Hear You ;-)
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 2:54:50am |
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UncleRancher Wed, May 27, 2009 3:01:48am |
Well, as always it's been fun but I need a little more shut-eye before chores time.
Catcha farther up the creek!
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theheat Wed, May 27, 2009 3:05:53am |
re: #225 UncleRancher
Good night UncleRancher, and good night for me, too. Later, everybody.
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Detector Wed, May 27, 2009 3:07:45am |
Some idiot commenting over at Gates of Vienna is taking the mickey out of Charles.
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 3:11:46am |
re: #228 Detector
There's an entire cottage industry of stalker blogs.
/and I thought I needed to get a life!
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 3:34:31am |
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littleoldlady Wed, May 27, 2009 3:35:47am |
'Night, BatGuano! :-)
I'm going to give my modem a rest...
Good day, ALL!™
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:14:59am |
Good morning.
The market jumped yesterday based on the perception that the worst of the recession may be over.
Futures are mixed at the moment.
10 year treasuries are up to 3.54%. Approximately 8 weeks ago the rate was about 2.70%.
Oil is starting to rise, driven by the dropping dollar (as the dollar drops in value, the price of items quoted in dollars rises).
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Erik The Red Wed, May 27, 2009 4:18:14am |
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:20:42am |
re: #235 3 wood
Good morning.
The market jumped yesterday based on the perception that the worst of the recession may be over.
Futures are mixed at the moment.
10 year treasuries are up to 3.54%. Approximately 8 weeks ago the rate was about 2.70%.
Oil is starting to rise, driven by the dropping dollar (as the dollar drops in value, the price of items quoted in dollars rises).
How hard is the rising price of oil going to hit? It seems as though 0bama doesn't understand or more likely doesn't care that as the price of oil goes up the price of everything also goes up. Maybe a new tax or 2 as well just to make sure we don't recover too quickly.
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:21:49am |
The ongoing laugh-track known as Illinois politics keeps churning out the hits:
Burris on tape: Promises to 'do something' for Blagojevich
In a Nov. 13 conversation recorded by the FBI, Roland Burris told Rod Blagojevich’s brother he feared he’d “catch hell,” with the public if he gave the governor money at the same time he was lobbying for a Senate seat appointment.Still, Burris ends the call with a promise: “I will personally do something OK? And it will come to you before the 15th of December.”
But if you recall, Burris was questioned under oath by an Illinois House panel and denied having any contact with Blago or his aids before being appointed Senator.
But the tape could raise additional questions. Burris did not mention a promise of a campaign contribution in a Feb. 4 sworn affidavit that Burris submitted to an Illinois House panel investigating Rod Blagojevich’s impeachment. That affidavit sought to supplement Burris’ testimony before a House panel, where Burris only mentioned having contact with Lon Monk with regard to the appointment.
Ah, the Chicago way.
But they are Democrats, so nothing will happen.
And remember, the Messiah operated in this sewer as did a lot of his administration.
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:22:30am |
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:23:58am |
re: #239 3 wood
The ongoing laugh-track known as Illinois politics keeps churning out the hits:
Burris on tape: Promises to 'do something' for Blagojevich
Ah, the Chicago way.But they are Democrats, so nothing will happen.
And remember, the Messiah operated in this sewer as did a lot of his administration.
Should we be watching for the presser announcing how he misspoke and it is all being taken out of context.
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:25:21am |
re: #238 soxfan4life
How hard is the rising price of oil going to hit? It seems as though 0bama doesn't understand or more likely doesn't care that as the price of oil goes up the price of everything also goes up. Maybe a new tax or 2 as well just to make sure we don't recover too quickly.
I don't think we will see $4 a gallon this summer, but I would not be surprised at $3.
Obama wants oil to be as expensive as possible to price us out of using it and switch to alternate sources, so this plays right into his hands. I would not be surprised to see more taxes added to oil to help pay for his health care plans.
That's what all of his talk about unsustainable deficits was all about.
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:27:24am |
re: #242 soxfan4life
Should we be watching for the presser announcing how he misspoke and it is all being taken out of context.
Might be, also I think the MSM will just look the other way for the most part. The MSM does not want Burris driven from office cause that would hurt Obama's drive toward Marxism, which I truly believe that the MSM supports and approves of.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:27:27am |
re: #243 3 wood
I don't think we will see $4 a gallon this summer, but I would not be surprised at $3.
Obama wants oil to be as expensive as possible to price us out of using it and switch to alternate sources, so this plays right into his hands. I would not be surprised to see more taxes added to oil to help pay for his health care plans.
That's what all of his talk about unsustainable deficits was all about.
So either he doesn't understand or doesn't care that the higher fuel costs will make everything more expensive and bring us right to were all this economic downturn began.
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:31:00am |
re: #245 soxfan4life
So either he doesn't understand or doesn't care that the higher fuel costs will make everything more expensive and bring us right to were all this economic downturn began.
I think he understands very well and wants it at costly as possible. Damaging this economy is part of the goal. He can then use that as a justification to force onto the public all kinds of alternate source stuff then.
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1SG(ret) Wed, May 27, 2009 4:32:32am |
re: #243 3 wood
Obama wants oil to be as expensive as possible to price us out of using it and switch to alternate sources, so this plays right into his hands.
Is there really a viable alternate source/resource available a this time. Switching is fine, but as we know the cost has to be considered for most families. In todays economy this has to be a factor. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see an alternative to oil that is cost effective.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:32:51am |
re: #247 3 wood
I think he understands very well and wants it at costly as possible. Damaging this economy is part of the goal. He can then use that as a justification to force onto the public all kinds of alternate source stuff then.
How soon until we all don our 0bama coats to go to our state job?
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:34:32am |
Some more support for the thought that the economy may be turing up.
U.S. Recession May End Next Quarter, Business Economists Say
May 27 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. recession will probably end in the third quarter, a survey of business economists showed, even as rising joblessness indicates the recovery will be weaker than previously estimated.
The world’s largest economy will begin to expand next quarter, according to 74 percent of economists in a National Association for Business Economics survey. Compared with NABE’s February poll, growth will be slower and unemployment will be higher in the second half of this year and through 2010.
Government stimulus spending and Federal Reserve efforts to thaw credit markets are helping pull the economy out of the worst slump in half a century, the survey said. While housing is stabilizing, the economists predicted consumer spending will be restrained by a deteriorating labor market as job losses continue for the rest of the year.
Yeah, well, just remember the old saying that if you took all the economists in the world and layed them end-to-end, you still would not reach a conclusion.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:37:00am |
re: #248 1SG(ret)
Is there really a viable alternate source/resource available a this time. Switching is fine, but as we know the cost has to be considered for most families. In todays economy this has to be a factor. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see an alternative to oil that is cost effective.
There is .... and ... and oh yeah nothing. Even if they improve hybrid technology or come up with a plug in hybrid the power grid in its current condition won't be able to handle the increased load. And there is no other viable fuel source for big trucks to haul our freight and produce and the like. I guess he wants us to reach the year 600 faster than the muslims would like us to.
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 4:37:01am |
re: #243 3 wood
I don't think we will see $4 a gallon this summer, but I would not be surprised at $3.
Obama wants oil to be as expensive as possible to price us out of using it and switch to alternate sources, so this plays right into his hands. I would not be surprised to see more taxes added to oil to help pay for his health care plans.
That's what all of his talk about unsustainable deficits was all about.
Don't you think that Obama is smart enough to know his reelection would be jeopardized by pricing us out of oil? Seems to me that would be an awfully risky tactic on his part.
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:38:08am |
re: #248 1SG(ret)
Is there really a viable alternate source/resource available a this time. Switching is fine, but as we know the cost has to be considered for most families. In todays economy this has to be a factor. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see an alternative to oil that is cost effective.
Correct, and that is why Obama wants to see oil get real expensive. The more expensive it gets, closer the gap gets in making alternate sources cost effective and viable.
Have you noticed how much like Europe we are becoming with Obama? When I was in Ireland a year ago, I was paying the equivalent of about $9 a gallon for gasoline. I think Obama wants us paying European prices. That also makes it possible for him to then throw in an extra 50 cents or dollar a gallon tax and have it not be noticed much to help pay for his nationalized health care plans.
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:39:22am |
re: #252 Flyers1974
Don't you think that Obama is smart enough to know his reelection would be jeopardized by pricing us out of oil? Seems to me that would be an awfully risky tactic on his part.
He's trying to get his socialist agenda in place right away so then we are dependent on him and the Democrats to keep the supposed benefits coming our way.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:39:46am |
re: #252 Flyers1974
Don't you think that Obama is smart enough to know his reelection would be jeopardized by pricing us out of oil? Seems to me that would be an awfully risky tactic on his part.
When he was campaigning for the job he stated that he was only upset about $4 a gallon gas because the price rose so quickly. The $4 figure didn't bother him at all. And so many voted for him anyhow.
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:40:43am |
re: #249 soxfan4life
How soon until we all don our 0bama coats to go to our state job?
We are becoming more like France every day.
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rightside Wed, May 27, 2009 4:40:43am |
re: #248 1SG(ret)
I'm no expert, but I do not see wind, solar, etc. as viable alternative sources of energy.
How much $ has been saved versus the cost of leasing/buying the land, erecting and maintaining wind farms, like you see in california?
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 4:40:55am |
re: #247 3 wood
I think he understands very well and wants it at costly as possible. Damaging this economy is part of the goal. He can then use that as a justification to force onto the public all kinds of alternate source stuff then.
Man, that would be a hell of a risky tactic for him to take on a personal level. Are you sure about this? Wasn't the economy what sunk McCain? Sounds like Obama would win a battle (sinking the economy) only to lose the war (reelection.)
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3 wood Wed, May 27, 2009 4:42:29am |
re: #258 Flyers1974
Man, that would be a hell of a risky tactic for him to take on a personal level. Are you sure about this? Wasn't the economy what sunk McCain? Sounds like Obama would win a battle (sinking the economy) only to lose the war (reelection.)
His goal is to make the population dependent on him.
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 4:43:14am |
re: #256 3 wood
We are becoming more like France every day.
I got to say, we are nothing at all like France. I can't think of two western cultures more different than the US and France. On so many levels.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:44:07am |
re: #258 Flyers1974
Man, that would be a hell of a risky tactic for him to take on a personal level. Are you sure about this? Wasn't the economy what sunk McCain? Sounds like Obama would win a battle (sinking the economy) only to lose the war (reelection.)
I think refusing to name names on the earmarks from TARP 1 and running a very lackluster campaign hurt McCain. As well as the media attacks on Sarah Palin. Last night on Rachel Maddow she said conservative attacks on Sonia Sotomayor were attacks on women in politics. I'm sure the left will be parroting the same nonsense today and explain how this is different than their attacks on Palin.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:46:38am |
re: #257 rightside
I'm no expert, but I do not see wind, solar, etc. as viable alternative sources of energy.
How much $ has been saved versus the cost of leasing/buying the land, erecting and maintaining wind farms, like you see in california?
The one viable alternative that we could start on amd implement in the next 5-10 years is nuclear which would also create a bunch of new construction and permanent jobs seems to be off the table.
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 4:47:51am |
re: #260 3 wood
His goal is to make the population dependent on him.
Well, I guess no way to prove these things, but I don't know many people who would take kindly to being dependent on any political party. I think there would be tremendous resentment. Remember, not all who voted for Obama fit the stereotype. Nor were all Obama voters first timers. I'm sure many voted for the GOP before. I think you are overestimating the extent to which Obama would take those voters for granted.
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rightside Wed, May 27, 2009 4:47:59am |
re: #262 soxfan4life
It's no different. Democrats are the racists/bigots, and are never called on it because of their willing accomplices in the drive by media.
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rightside Wed, May 27, 2009 4:50:28am |
re: #263 soxfan4life
Now I agree with that, and would put America to work building plants, operating and maintaining them, while decreasing our dependence on foreign oil. We're wasting time by not drilling locally for oil, which would create even more wealth. Throw in some tax cuts FOR THOSE WHO PAY TAXES, and you'd see the economy right as rain before the next elections.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Wed, May 27, 2009 4:51:22am |
Nork nonsense round up
China debates its bond with North Korea
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Japan should have ability to strike enemy bases in defense: LDP panel
[Link: www.japantoday.com...]
Nukes, Hawks and Ambassador John Bolton
[Link: www.thetakeaway.org...]
North Korea may face blockade by US Navy
[Link: www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk...]
Gulags, Nukes and a Water Slide: Citizen Spies Lift North Korea's Veil
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
NKorea warns of military action against SKorea
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
North Korea Threatens Armed Strike, End to Armistice
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
some thoughts on the subject:
1) this has been coming since Obama came into office. With all the nonsense rhetoric he's been spouting, our enemies are on the move and if he's trying to pull a Carter MK II, he's doing an impressive job. the North Koreans, Russians, And Iranians are moving to take advantage of his phenominal idiocy.
2) Lil' Kim is not long for this world and the fact that photos have been getting out with him looking like crap indicates how far his grip has slipped on his own government. with all the internal strife going on, we can expect a lot more nonsense from the Norks.
3) Japan is getting pissed at North Korea's behavior and China (& South Korea) are noticing and are getting nervous. They know japan's technological database and industrial capacity (intelligently NOT farmed out) is capable of knocking up a nuclear warhead on a IRBM in very short order and REALLY don't want Japan Remilitarizing. Particularly with Japan never saying they were sorry for WWII.
4) let's be honest here, strip away all the diplomatic niceties and you will find a very ugly racism between most of the various peoples of the Pac-Rim, particularly between China, Japan, and Korea. They all HATE each other on a cultural scale (individually, that's a different kettle), and if you think this is going to end well if IRBMS start flying, you are only fooling yourself. I've been reading the japanese dailys and the Japanese (once you read between the lines) are scared and getting very very angry. there have been ugly noises to remove the barriers of the JSDF and turn it intoa proper military.
Fun Times had by all.....not.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:51:52am |
re: #264 Flyers1974
Well, I guess no way to prove these things, but I don't know many people who would take kindly to being dependent on any political party. I think there would be tremendous resentment. Remember, not all who voted for Obama fit the stereotype. Nor were all Obama voters first timers. I'm sure many voted for the GOP before. I think you are overestimating the extent to which Obama would take those voters for granted.
All he has to do is make enough dependent on government to maintain a majority. 12 million illegals suddenly dumped on the voter rolls in swing states would make the people you speak of irrelevent to him.
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 4:52:46am |
re: #262 soxfan4life
I think refusing to name names on the earmarks from TARP 1 and running a very lackluster campaign hurt McCain. As well as the media attacks on Sarah Palin. Last night on Rachel Maddow she said conservative attacks on Sonia Sotomayor were attacks on women in politics. I'm sure the left will be parroting the same nonsense today and explain how this is different than their attacks on Palin.
I agree, McCain ran a poor campaign. He seemed old and at one point at a debate I actully felt bad for the guy. I initially thought Palin was a brilliant pick politically speaking, but she was out of her depth (there were a number, not a majority but a number of conservatives who had real problems with Palin's depth.) But its real difficult to not consider the economy as the primary factor in McCain's losss.
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1SG(ret) Wed, May 27, 2009 4:54:08am |
re: #253 3 wood
During my career, I spent nearly 11 yrs in Europe. The cost of fuel has been high from my first tour in the early 70's almost to the point of most soldiers being locked into a rather small area they could travel. This may work in countries the size of some of our states, but the great expanse of the US, makes it hard on families here. I know, because I have children and grandkids in 5 different states form NC to CA.
The thing I have the most problem with, is that we have resources, but aren't allowed to get/use it. I know, Global Warming must be stopped so I should quit whinning and do my part.
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 4:55:08am |
re: #268 soxfan4life
All he has to do is make enough dependent on government to maintain a majority. 12 million illegals suddenly dumped on the voter rolls in swing states would make the people you speak of irrelevent to him.
Assuming you gave those illegals greencards today, this instant, it would take them five more years to obtain citizenship, once they applied for same. To late to help Obama.
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rightside Wed, May 27, 2009 4:55:50am |
re: #271 Flyers1974
Do you seriously believe no illegals voted for obama this past election?
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:56:42am |
re: #269 Flyers1974
I agree, McCain ran a poor campaign. He seemed old and at one point at a debate I actully felt bad for the guy. I initially thought Palin was a brilliant pick politically speaking, but she was out of her depth (there were a number, not a majority but a number of conservatives who had real problems with Palin's depth.) But its real difficult to not consider the economy as the primary factor in McCain's losss.
He refused to point out how Dems as well as Repubs were responsible for the economy. He let his colleagues in the Senate shit all over the republicans so that he would be welcomed back with open arms.Palin was no more out of her depth than 0bama yet they never scored points with that.
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right_wing2 Wed, May 27, 2009 4:57:51am |
Would Sotomayer be any worse for the American judicial system than the Obamessiah's top pick for the State Department, who apparently believes we should look to foreign courts for their 'wisdom'?
Of course, Koh may, or may not believe, as Sotomayer seems to, that the 2nd Amendment NEVER granted the individual the right to keep & bear arms.
Good God, we're SERIOUSLY screwed.
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1SG(ret) Wed, May 27, 2009 4:58:36am |
re: #264 Flyers1974
Not to pick a fight, but have you seen the exit polls from the last few elections? There is a large number of voters that is fine being dependant on a political party. Something for nothing, or on the backs of otheres seem to be the new success story for many in the US.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 4:59:23am |
re: #271 Flyers1974
Assuming you gave those illegals greencards today, this instant, it would take them five more years to obtain citizenship, once they applied for same. To late to help Obama.
So all those voter fraud indictments ACORN is facing didn't involve illegals or dead people. And he has stated he wants to fasttrack illegals on the path to citizenship so that 5 year path could be cut with the stroke of his pens.
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right_wing2 Wed, May 27, 2009 4:59:48am |
re: #255 soxfan4life
When he was campaigning for the job he stated that he was only upset about $4 a gallon gas because the price rose so quickly. The $4 figure didn't bother him at all. And so many voted for him anyhow.
I also have to wonder just how upset he was over the fact that $4 gas wasn't due to high taxes, but rather the high cost of the oil to begin with.
Remember, he said in another speech that energy prices would, necessarily, rise, and that we couldn't keep our houses at 72 degrees any more. Makes me wonder if he wants remote controls for our home/office thermostats.
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JacksonTn Wed, May 27, 2009 5:00:11am |
Morning Lizards! ... happy hump day ... it is Wednesday right? ...
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Wed, May 27, 2009 5:03:13am |
Jackson TN
anda good day to you too
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 5:03:44am |
re: #272 rightside
Do you seriously believe no illegals voted for obama this past election?
I'm sure there is a small amount of voter fraud in every election. If you are suggesting that illegals voting had a tangible impact on the outcome, it would be the first I've heard of this. In my profession, I've gotten to know illegals pretty well. In my experience, they are far too timid to engage in voter fraud. They have bigger fish to fry, i.e., working. Also, McCain and Obama's immigration policy was pretty similiar. I'd guess McCain would have had a better chance of getting "amnesty" through than Obama, so to say the illegals would be a lock for McCain may be an assumption.
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1SG(ret) Wed, May 27, 2009 5:04:33am |
re: #277 right_wing2
Funny you would say that. In many buildings on Military Bases, the temp is control by a central computer that turns it on and off. To have heat after a set time in the winter, the command has to apply with a written request.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 5:06:35am |
re: #282 JacksonTn
So, is Obama speaking North Korean yet? ...
He's still busy trying to master Spanish. I'm sure he has learned to say The United States of America is sorry for the mistreatment of North Korean citizens though in Korean.
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 5:06:43am |
re: #275 1SG(ret)
Not to pick a fight, but have you seen the exit polls from the last few elections? There is a large number of voters that is fine being dependant on a political party. Something for nothing, or on the backs of otheres seem to be the new success story for many in the US.
You're not picking a fight, nothing wrong with honest debate, at least in my view. I haven't seen those polls. I don't doubt that there is always a certain number of people who want something for nothing. I'm not sure those numbers have increased, and I think hardworkers far outnumber the moochers.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 5:09:26am |
Isn't it funny how the Dems can attack Clarence Thomas mercilessly during his confirmation hearings yet come out and say doing the same to Sotomayor will be rascist and sexist?
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 5:10:33am |
re: #276 soxfan4life
So all those voter fraud indictments ACORN is facing didn't involve illegals or dead people. And he has stated he wants to fasttrack illegals on the path to citizenship so that 5 year path could be cut with the stroke of his pens.
I'm sure you are right. But whether there was enough fraud to impact the election is a different matter entirely. And I've heard the fasttrack talk. I doubt there will be any immigration reform anytime soon. Too many other problems, too hot of an issue. And when and if immigration reform comes, I'd be shocked and amazed if any fast track to citizenship occurred. Too much political capital would be spent in simply providing a track to a greencard.
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rightside Wed, May 27, 2009 5:16:07am |
re: #287 Flyers1974
I disagree. I think obama knows he has a small window of opportunity, and is doing everything in his power to get his agenda signed into law before the 2010 elections.
Besides health care, he will try to enact immigration reform (read amnesty), while he has a democrat majority in both houses of congress. He knows the GOP won't attack sotomayor, nor any other minority appointment for that matter, as they don't have the testicular fortitude to do so. All under the guise of being "bi-partisan" and "moderate" and "mainstream". Meanwhile, the GOP regularly gets pummeled daily by the democrats and the drive by media, which provides all the cover they need.
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 5:17:10am |
re: #286 soxfan4life
Isn't it funny how the Dems can attack Clarence Thomas mercilessly during his confirmation hearings yet come out and say doing the same to Sotomayor will be rascist and sexist?
Nothing strange about it, its the usual political rhetoric. The Dems will attack the GOP's picks and defend their own picks, and the GOP will do exactly the same.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Wed, May 27, 2009 5:17:39am |
from some Japanese Dailys (in english)
How much of a military threat is North Korea to Japan?
[Link: www.japantoday.com...]
North Korea threatens to attack South Korea if ships checked
[Link: www.japantoday.com...]
Japan scrambles for right response
[Link: search.japantimes.co.jp...]
◆Upper house adopts resolution condemning North Korean nuclear test
[Link: home.kyodo.co.jp...]
7 U.N. members agree to respond to N. Korea 'directly and seriously'
[Link: home.kyodo.co.jp...]
Experts: North Korea's nuclear tests may be about leader's succession
[Link: www.stripes.com...]
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rightside Wed, May 27, 2009 5:18:20am |
re: #289 Flyers1974
How did the GOP attack ruth bader ginsburg?
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 5:19:35am |
re: #289 Flyers1974
Nothing strange about it, its the usual political rhetoric. The Dems will attack the GOP's picks and defend their own picks, and the GOP will do exactly the same.
The GOP should bring out all the arguments the Dems used against every Hispanic appointment GWB made to federal benches. If you listened to the MSM and libs around the country you would think Bush ran an administration Nathan Bedford Forrest would be proud of, not one of the most diverse.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Wed, May 27, 2009 5:23:09am |
NORTH KOREA'S NUCLEAR THREAT / U.S. 'didn't give Japan advance N-test intel'
[Link: www.yomiuri.co.jp...]
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 5:24:59am |
re: #288 rightside
I disagree. I think obama knows he has a small window of opportunity, and is doing everything in his power to get his agenda signed into law before the 2010 elections.
Besides health care, he will try to enact immigration reform (read amnesty), while he has a democrat majority in both houses of congress. He knows the GOP won't attack sotomayor, nor any other minority appointment for that matter, as they don't have the testicular fortitude to do so. All under the guise of being "bi-partisan" and "moderate" and "mainstream". Meanwhile, the GOP regularly gets pummeled daily by the democrats and the drive by media, which provides all the cover they need.
I don't see immigration reform happening in his first term, if at all. This is perhaps the most dangerous issue in US politics. I personally can't name a more controversial issue. If immigration is pushed, it would jeopardize everything else he wants to do. It would also, be an immediate boost to the GOP. Immigration reform is just not popular. I'm sure the GOP will attack Sotomayor, just as the Dems attacked Alito and Roberts. They don't have the votes, I think to be successful. And regarding the media, remember, Bush won twice, and there was a GOP house and senate until 2006, so, the GOP has won quite often in the recent past, notwithstanding one's view of the media.
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rightside Wed, May 27, 2009 5:26:00am |
re: #294 Flyers1974
I understand your point. Time will tell.
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 5:28:20am |
re: #291 rightside
How did the GOP attack ruth bader ginsburg?
You've got me on that one, I can't remember. Although, I would think she would have been more acceptable to the GOP due to her age. If I'm not mistaken, she was pretty old when confirmed.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Wed, May 27, 2009 5:29:29am |
re: #295 rightside
No. no I hadn't. I've been reading all the Japanese and Korean Boards and newsfilter. There is a ugly undercurrent in Japan right now. They are supremely pissed at the moment. I'll takea look
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 5:30:07am |
re: #292 soxfan4life
The GOP should bring out all the arguments the Dems used against every Hispanic appointment GWB made to federal benches. If you listened to the MSM and libs around the country you would think Bush ran an administration Nathan Bedford Forrest would be proud of, not one of the most diverse.
I'm sure the GOP will employ every argument that they deem will be useful.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, May 27, 2009 5:33:07am |
re: #290 Jewels (AKA Julian)
7 U.N. members agree to respond to N. Korea 'directly and seriously'
Now that's seriously funny, almost as good as the Obama quote's that Sanger strung together for his NYT piece.
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legalpad Wed, May 27, 2009 5:34:56am |
re: #294 Flyers1974
I personally can't name a more controversial issue.
I agree. Strangely, adopting a fair and workable system of immigration is beyond them. Special interests in the guise of minority victimhood obfuscates all.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 5:37:10am |
re: #300 Flyers1974
I'm sure the GOP will employ every argument that they deem will be useful.
I doubt it, they don't want to piss off hispanics. But if they were smart they would hit the Sunday AM newsshows armed with video of Democrats attacking hispanic nomineesmade by Bush .They should argue her decision in Ricci vs. Destefano as well as the decision on police officer exam scores and minorities. I said yesterday I wish they could start a debate on her qualifications for the bench that didn't include the fact she is Hispanic or a woman. Once those things aren't considered in qualifiers we will reach true equality under the law.
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1SG(ret) Wed, May 27, 2009 5:39:12am |
I have to say the O was smart picking Sonia. The Woman, Hispanic, issues alone will see to it the balls of the GOP will disappear. So many legitimate issues to raise with her, but the GOP is running scared and I don't see them making an issue of them! This the main reason I no longer belong to the GOP! Conservative I am, GOP I'm not!
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1SG(ret) Wed, May 27, 2009 5:47:32am |
OK, I'll leave now that I killed the thread. Have work to get done. All have a good day!
Top
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JacksonTn Wed, May 27, 2009 5:48:35am |
Okay Late Night Lizards ... that is the last time you stay up all night posting ... Wake Up! you are going to be late for school ....
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Pupdawg Wed, May 27, 2009 5:52:51am |
re: #301 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Now that's seriously funny, almost as good as the Obama quote's that Sanger strung together for his NYT piece.
Obama's model for his immediate strategic plans to thwart NK nuking:
1. take the underware
2. ?
3. make profit
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UFO TOFU Wed, May 27, 2009 5:54:20am |
I love the last line:
Canada's governor general ate a slaughtered seal's raw heart in a show of support to the country's seal hunters, a display that a European Union spokeswoman on Tuesday called "too bizarre to acknowledge."Governor General Michaelle Jean, the representative of Britain's Queen Elizabeth II as Canada's head of state, gutted the seal and swallowed a slice of the mammal's organ late Monday after an EU vote earlier this month to impose a ban on seal products on grounds that the seal hunt is cruel.
And you thought Sarah Palin was tough.
[Link: www.volokh.com...]
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 5:54:39am |
re: #303 soxfan4life
I doubt it, they don't want to piss off hispanics. But if they were smart they would hit the Sunday AM newsshows armed with video of Democrats attacking hispanic nomineesmade by Bush .They should argue her decision in Ricci vs. Destefano as well as the decision on police officer exam scores and minorities. I said yesterday I wish they could start a debate on her qualifications for the bench that didn't include the fact she is Hispanic or a woman. Once those things aren't considered in qualifiers we will reach true equality under the law.
It will be difficult to win the argument based on her qualifications. The GOP will attack her on philosophical grounds just as the Dems would in reverse. She is not a Harriet Meyers. At any rate, I think that the GOP will not make their stand in this case. Its a liberal replacing a liberal. As someone pointed out yesterday, they would pull out the stops to the extent able if she was replacing a conservative.
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KenJen Wed, May 27, 2009 5:56:27am |
re: #307 Pupdawg
Obama's model for his immediate strategic plans to thwart NK nuking:
1. take the underware
2. ?
3. make profit
I think Obama's immediate strategic plan is to give Lil' Kim a big hug. Then maybe a group hug with the UN. That's all Lil' Kim really wants./
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 5:59:23am |
re: #303 soxfan4life
I doubt it, they don't want to piss off hispanics. But if they were smart they would hit the Sunday AM newsshows armed with video of Democrats attacking hispanic nomineesmade by Bush .They should argue her decision in Ricci vs. Destefano as well as the decision on police officer exam scores and minorities. I said yesterday I wish they could start a debate on her qualifications for the bench that didn't include the fact she is Hispanic or a woman. Once those things aren't considered in qualifiers we will reach true equality under the law.
Perhaps the hispanic thing may intimidate some on the GOP side, afterall, much has been made of the difference between the number of Hispanics voting for Bush v. McCain. In any case, there is not much the GOP can do, without the votes. Plus, its a liberal replacing a liberal. If she were replacing a conservative, there would be more of a concerted attack in hopes of changing some dem votes.
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 6:02:54am |
re: #304 1SG(ret)
I have to say the O was smart picking Sonia. The Woman, Hispanic, issues alone will see to it the balls of the GOP will disappear. So many legitimate issues to raise with her, but the GOP is running scared and I don't see them making an issue of them! This the main reason I no longer belong to the GOP! Conservative I am, GOP I'm not!
If they had the votes, the GOP would fight. Although, the jury is still out as to where she fits on the political scale. Even if the GOP controlled the senate, you wouldn't expect Obama to nominate a conservative, just as you wouldn't expect a republican president to knowingly nominate a liberal.
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JacksonTn Wed, May 27, 2009 6:09:55am |
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KenJen Wed, May 27, 2009 6:14:07am |
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JacksonTn Wed, May 27, 2009 6:14:56am |
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saberry0530 Wed, May 27, 2009 6:15:01am |
So, when is the Big, smooth talkin' O going to authorize use of deadly force in South Korea?
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MJ Wed, May 27, 2009 6:16:20am |
Elena Bonner, wife of the late Andrei Sakharov:
"...SO IT IS about Israel and the Jews that I will speak. And not only because I am Jewish, but above all because the Middle Eastern conflict since the end of World War II has been a platform for political games and gambling by the great powers, the Arab countries and individual politicians, striving, through the so-called "peace process," to make a name for themselves, and perhaps win a Nobel Peace Prize. At one time, the Nobel Peace Prize was the highest moral award of our civilization. But after December 1994, when Yasser Arafat became one of the three new laureates, its ethical value was undermined. I haven't always greeted each selection of the Nobel Committee of the Storting [Norwegian parliament] with joy, but that one shocked me. And to this day, I cannot understand and accept the fact that Andrei Sakharov and Yasser Arafat, now posthumously, share membership in the club of Nobel laureates.
In many of Sakharov's publications (in his books Progress, Coexistence and Intellectual Freedom and My Country and the World, in his articles and in his interviews), Andrei Dmitrievich wrote and spoke about Israel. I have a collection of citations of his writing on this topic. If it were published in Norway, then many Norwegians would be surprised at how sharply their contemporary view of Israel differs from the view of Sakharov.
Here are several citations from Sakharov: "Israel has an indisputable right to exist"; "Israel has a right to existence within safe borders"; "All wars that Israel has waged have been just, forced upon it by the irresponsibility of Arab leaders"; "With all the money that has been invested in the problem of Palestinians, it would have been possible long ago to resettle them and provide them with good lives in Arab countries."
THROUGHOUT THE YEARS of Israel's existence there has been war. Victorious wars, and also wars which Israel was not allowed to win. Each and every day - literally every day - there is the expectation of a terrorist act or a new war. We have seen the Oslo peace initiatives and the Camp David handshake and the road map and land for peace (there is not much land - from one side of Israel on a clear day you can see the other side with your naked eye)....
Read the whole thing:
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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bosforus Wed, May 27, 2009 6:23:59am |
Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.
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ConservatismNow! Wed, May 27, 2009 6:26:55am |
re: #318 saberry0530
So, when is the Big, smooth talkin' O going to authorize use of deadly force in South Korea?
When South Korea is a smoking crater.
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, May 27, 2009 6:27:04am |
Hey!
Where is everybody?
Well ....The good news is .....I'm not a thread killer!
This one arrived already DRT,ART, DOA, or burnt slap up!
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JacksonTn Wed, May 27, 2009 6:27:51am |
re: #324 reloadingisnotahobby
Hey!
Where is everybody?
Well ....The good news is .....I'm not a thread killer!
This one arrived already DRT,ART, DOA, or burnt slap up!
risnah ...they sleeping ... shhhhh ... they are grumpy when you wake them up ...
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, May 27, 2009 6:29:09am |
re: #325 JacksonTn
Well hell!
Guess I'll get to work then!
Have a happy !
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Lincolntf Wed, May 27, 2009 6:30:10am |
Morning all.
Through decades of careful diplomacy, countless games of cat-and-mouse, and even a couple proxy wars between great powers, the world has been able to avoid a nuclear exchange. All of that is at risk because of a certifiably insane tyrant who runs one of the least productive nations on Earth.
The only expectation is that the world will respond with more piles of paperwork and "blue ribbon" panels.
Whatever happened to that "Doomsday Clock" that the anti-nuke crowd used to adjust whenever things got hairy? I'm guessing it's about one second 'til midnight.
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VioletTiger Wed, May 27, 2009 6:31:33am |
re: #327 Lincolntf
I also worry that he will either give help to our enemies like Iran, or flat out sell nukes to terrorists who raise enough cash. Doing nothing is just not an option.
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haakondahl Wed, May 27, 2009 6:34:54am |
re: #327 Lincolntf
... Whatever happened to that "Doomsday Clock" that the anti-nuke crowd used to adjust whenever things got hairy? I'm guessing it's about one second 'til midnight.
That's a damned good question. I suspect that the answer is that the anti-nuke crowd is mostly left-leaning, and couldn't possibly see their way to criticizing the proliferation of nuclear weapons to the poor and deserving peasants of Iran, North Korea, and Pakistan. I could be wrong, of course.
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swamprat Wed, May 27, 2009 6:35:55am |
The super diplomatic negotiator will take care of everything. Everybody relax.
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 6:37:46am |
re: #327 Lincolntf
North Korea has also fired five short-range missiles in two days in a further display of infantile military defiance. The United Nations Security Council agreed in an emergency perpetual session on May 25 to perpetually condemn the nuclear test and missile launches, in the strongest possible terms.
Slight adjustments to the story I just read on Bloomberg.com
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Lincolntf Wed, May 27, 2009 6:39:05am |
re: #330 swamprat
I know. I'm so old-fashioned that I keep forgetting that we are being led by a divine being rather than mere mortals.
Nothing to see here, America, go back to bed. The Obama will take care of everything.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 6:39:46am |
re: #327 Lincolntf
The doomsday clock has now become the doomsday strongly worded condemnation. No shit Lincoln, that little tyrant needs a come to Jesus moment before he manages to sell a nuke dinnerjacket. What a great idea it was to give him a nuke reactor, wasn't that Clinton?
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 6:39:58am |
Ah the U.N. Security Council. If they can't stop a bunch of homeless guys in a make shift boat with AK-47's, how can we expect them to stop a lunatic with a nuke.
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Ojoe Wed, May 27, 2009 6:40:29am |
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KenJen Wed, May 27, 2009 6:41:13am |
re: #325 JacksonTn
risnah ...they sleeping ... shhhhh ... they are grumpy when you wake them up ...
Sometimes I wake up grumpy. Sometimes I let him sleep.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 6:41:44am |
re: #330 swamprat
The super diplomatic negotiator will take care of everything. Everybody relax.
Seriously, what the hell has Hillary accomplished so far .... zero. She couldn't negotiate her way out of a friggin paper bag.
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swamprat Wed, May 27, 2009 6:43:31am |
re: #338 turn
Seriously, what the hell has Hillary accomplished so far .... zero. She couldn't negotiate her way out of a friggin paper bag.
I was talking about the divine super diplomatic negotiator!
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Lincolntf Wed, May 27, 2009 6:44:05am |
re: #338 turn
She couldn't even get the Democrats (who worshipped her for years) to do what she wanted during the Primaries, so how the hell is she going to persuade our enemies?
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 6:44:31am |
Current Stats:
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I don't think I've ever seen so few logged in. Must be summer is here.
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 6:45:26am |
re: #340 Lincolntf
She couldn't even get the Democrats (who worshipped her for years) to do what she wanted during the Primaries, so how the hell is she going to persuade our enemies?
She could always cackle at them until they agree.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 6:45:50am |
The Washington Times has an article out saying Sotomayor was reversed 60% of the time. Did anybody here come up with an estimate yesterday? If true she got it wrong more than half the time and that doesn't seem like a very good qualification to me.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 6:46:42am |
re: #339 swamprat
I was talking about the divine super diplomatic negotiator!
Oh, the one who wears the halo - gottcha
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VioletTiger Wed, May 27, 2009 6:46:53am |
re: #343 turn
The Washington Times has an article out saying Sotomayor was reversed 60% of the time. Did anybody here come up with an estimate yesterday? If true she got it wrong more than half the time and that doesn't seem like a very good qualification to me.
People were saying something like that here yesterday, but nobody had a link. Do you have one?
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VioletTiger Wed, May 27, 2009 6:48:25am |
re: #346 taxfreekiller
TFK, I read about her stance on the second amendment yesterday. I will look for the link.
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lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 6:48:27am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It looks like North Korea's saber rattling is getting a whole lot louder, and they're now threatening overt war because South Korea is joining the PSI - a US-backed initiative to prevent WMD proliferation.
North Korea continues lobbing rhetorical bombs, even as it tests its missiles and successfully tested a nuclear weapon. Yet, the regime is making the claim that South Korea is the bad guy. Classic.
Of course, Iran is watching all this go down intently. They see that the UN is incapable of acting, the IAEA is powerless, and no one is stepping up to stand up to this.
For those who think that China is pulling the strings, consider the possibility that they are no longer able to do so. This is a regime that is insular and isolated, and there is no reason to believe that China can exert control over the regime. What exactly is China going to do to stop North Korea? Withhold food? Send back refugees? Once North Korea tested that nuclear weapon, China's sway diminishes greatly.
China had been holding the rattlesnake by the tail, and now it too could be bitten.
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pingjockey Wed, May 27, 2009 6:48:46am |
Mornin' all. Well, here is the 'ones' first real test. For real nukes in the hands of a for real tyrant. What will he do? Dither, strongly worded adjectives, send she who can't be named, call on the UN?
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UFO TOFU Wed, May 27, 2009 6:49:04am |
Sobering. I did not know that NK had only 1,000 miles of paved road.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 6:49:14am |
re: #345 VioletTiger
People were saying something like that here yesterday, but nobody had a link. Do you have one?
Morning VT, here is the article I was reading
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
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Ojoe Wed, May 27, 2009 6:49:50am |
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albusteve Wed, May 27, 2009 6:50:14am |
re: #338 turn
Seriously, what the hell has Hillary accomplished so far .... zero. She couldn't negotiate her way out of a friggin paper bag.
another head with a face...totally unqualified for SecState...good job BO
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Gella Wed, May 27, 2009 6:51:05am |
re: #349 taxfreekiller
Obama is the doomsday clock.
Janet Black: Doctor Manhattan as you know the Doomsday Clock is a symbolic clock face analogizing humankind's proximity to extinction, midnight representing the threat of nuclear war. As of now it stands at four minutes to midnight. Would you agree that we are that close to annihilation?
Jon Osterman: My father was a watch maker. He abandoned it when Einstein discovered time is relative. I would only agree that a symbolic clock is as nourishing to the intellect as photograph of oxygen to a drowning man.
- Watchmen
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 6:51:23am |
re: #343 turn
The Washington Times has an article out saying Sotomayor was reversed 60% of the time. Did anybody here come up with an estimate yesterday? If true she got it wrong more than half the time and that doesn't seem like a very good qualification to me.
I heard she had 6 cases advance up to the SC and of those 3 went against her.
The divine supreme diplomatic negotiator said that "she saved baseball". During one of the past lockouts the owners were trying to abolish free agency and, get this, she sided with labor (players). Now the players are all overpaid and act like they run the place. Sounds like Chrysler to me.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 6:51:57am |
Good morning all. Those convicted in the Holy Land Foundation/Hamas case are due in court for sentencing today.
Holy Land Foundation organizers to learn fate today
By JASON TRAHAN / The Dallas Morning News
Five former Holy Land Foundation organizers will finally learn their fates today as a federal judge is expected to hand down their sentences in the largest terrorism financing case in American history.
Four of the five could spend the rest of their lives in prison. A fifth could receive up to 15 years behind bars...
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Miss Trixie Wed, May 27, 2009 6:52:01am |
♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪
We've a cool, misty day in the valley with a promise of a gorgeous weekend ahead. I can hardly wait. :)
Another busy day at the orifice too.
So. What snoo?
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pingjockey Wed, May 27, 2009 6:52:14am |
re: #351 UFO TOFU
Dirt poor and xenophobic is no way to go through life.
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Ojoe Wed, May 27, 2009 6:53:06am |
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lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 6:53:29am |
re: #352 turn
Two ways to read that - the Supreme Court overruled 60% (3 of 5) of those cases brought before with Sotomayor being the author of the opinion, or that less than 1% of her cases were overturned (3 out of 380 opinions) (which is how Obama will spin it).
The truth is actually somewhere in the middle since there were several written opinions at the District Court level that went on to be overturned and upheld by the US Supreme Court (Tasani comes to mind).
Even if you consider that 3 of 5 cases were overturned, that actually is the norm given the Court's overall reversal rates.
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albusteve Wed, May 27, 2009 6:53:47am |
re: #357 CommonCents
I heard she had 6 cases advance up to the SC and of those 3 went against her.
The divine supreme diplomatic negotiator said that "she saved baseball". During one of the past lockouts the owners were trying to abolish free agency and, get this, she sided with labor (players). Now the players are all overpaid and act like they run the place. Sounds like Chrysler to me.
two words...salary cap
without it the players do run the place
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 6:54:24am |
re: #361 Ojoe
The current state of Baseball is very sad IMHO.
What a beautiful game.
I second that, but I watch anyway.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 27, 2009 6:54:33am |
re: #359 Miss Trixie
Hey, {girlfriend}! How are you and Little Miss?
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 6:54:39am |
Good morning y'all - from a warm (72 degrees going up to 82 degrees) cloudy day with heavy T-Storms in the forecast.
I hope everyone is doing well today.
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Miss Trixie Wed, May 27, 2009 6:55:14am |
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KenJen Wed, May 27, 2009 6:55:24am |
re: #348 lawhawk
and in the meantime Obama is cutting our missile defense budget by 1.8 billion dollars and Americans are more terrified of the H1S1 flu.
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lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 6:55:25am |
re: #363 albusteve
She didn't save baseball. She just saved the system in place at the time (free agency). Baseball would have continued, and the owners would have still be rich (perhaps richer if hard cap imposed), and players would have been rich (perhaps only slightly less so if hard cap imposed).
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 6:55:32am |
re: #363 albusteve
two words...salary cap
without it the players do run the place
The salary cap is meaningless in MLB. Look at the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers. When they go 5 times the cap and only have to pay a penalty tax it's not really a cap.
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albusteve Wed, May 27, 2009 6:55:54am |
re: #364 CommonCents
I second that, but I watch anyway.
you get 10mil$ players who can not bunt...can not hit and run...can not hit a curve...it's pathetic
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DisturbedEma Wed, May 27, 2009 6:55:55am |
re: #323 ConservatismNow!
When South Korea is a smoking crater.
When NK clentched fist is up his ass. . .
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 6:56:03am |
re: #357 CommonCents
I've read she had never had to make an opinion on the hot button issues like abortion or gun control. I bet O was looking for a real closet liberal who didn't go on the record with these issues and the reason he's so impressed with her is that behind the scenes she let her skirt down and confessed if given a chance she would be to the far left on them.
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 6:56:12am |
re: #367 {Miss Trixie}
Hey good morning Gorgeous *Smooches* to you - hope you're doing well today!
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DisturbedEma Wed, May 27, 2009 6:56:30am |
re: #358 Ward Cleaver
Good morning all. Those convicted in the Holy Land Foundation/Hamas case are due in court for sentencing today.
All I can say it . . .TO THE MAX. . .
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Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 6:56:35am |
re: #361 Ojoe
The current state of Baseball is very sad IMHO.
What a beautiful game.
They lost me after the last strike.
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pingjockey Wed, May 27, 2009 6:56:38am |
re: #362 lawhawk
IIRC, isn't the 9th Circus the most overturned court?
BTW a ship I once sailed in is getting sunk to make a reef. The USNS Vandenburg. It was a space tracking ship for Manned missions and satellites.
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J.S. Wed, May 27, 2009 6:56:48am |
George Jonas (columnist for the National Post) wrote an interesting column today -- titled: "Kafka meets the jet age". Jonas describes how Canada's judicial system is increasingly resembling a Star Chamber (with certain "trials", it is now permissible to allow the entry of "evidence" from secret witnesses who cannot be identified)...as I shudder...As Jonas notes, it may now be time for him to consider packing his bags....(Jonas's final paragraph is the most chilling...) Here's a link.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 6:57:16am |
re: #362 lawhawk
Two ways to read that - the Supreme Court overruled 60% (3 of 5) of those cases brought before with Sotomayor being the author of the opinion, or that less than 1% of her cases were overturned (3 out of 380 opinions) (which is how Obama will spin it).
The truth is actually somewhere in the middle since there were several written opinions at the District Court level that went on to be overturned and upheld by the US Supreme Court (Tasani comes to mind).
Even if you consider that 3 of 5 cases were overturned, that actually is the norm given the Court's overall reversal rates.
Morning LH, is this really the first time this percentage thing has come up in the confirmation of a SC justice?
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albusteve Wed, May 27, 2009 6:57:25am |
re: #370 CommonCents
The salary cap is meaningless in MLB. Look at the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers. When they go 5 times the cap and only have to pay a penalty tax it's not really a cap.
there is no cap in MLB
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 6:57:27am |
re: #371 albusteve
you get 10mil$ players who can not bunt...can not hit and run...can not hit a curve...it's pathetic
No shit. When was the last time you saw a good collision at the plate because winning the game was THE most important thing.
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DisturbedEma Wed, May 27, 2009 6:57:37am |
re: #363 albusteve
two words...salary cap
without it the players do run the place
Like football. . .
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VioletTiger Wed, May 27, 2009 6:57:47am |
re: #362 lawhawk
Two ways to read that - the Supreme Court overruled 60% (3 of 5) of those cases brought before with Sotomayor being the author of the opinion, or that less than 1% of her cases were overturned (3 out of 380 opinions) (which is how Obama will spin it).
The truth is actually somewhere in the middle since there were several written opinions at the District Court level that went on to be overturned and upheld by the US Supreme Court (Tasani comes to mind).
Even if you consider that 3 of 5 cases were overturned, that actually is the norm given the Court's overall reversal rates.
So do you think this is significant or insignificant when considering this candidate? Not being a lawyer or one who follows these things closely, I find it hard to say. From a purely mathematical standpoint, 'getting it wrong' 60% of the time is not a great record. However, 5 is a very small sample.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, May 27, 2009 6:58:53am |
SEX!
Now that I've got your attention - here's a great article about multi-cultural New Age cowardice in the face of a post 9/11 world by Charles Winecoff over at Big Hollywood.
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 6:58:55am |
re: #380 albusteve
there is no cap in MLB
I thought there was a threshhold that if exceeded the club had to pay a tax that was dispersed amongst the poor teams.
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albusteve Wed, May 27, 2009 7:00:34am |
re: #369 lawhawk
She didn't save baseball. She just saved the system in place at the time (free agency). Baseball would have continued, and the owners would have still be rich (perhaps richer if hard cap imposed), and players would have been rich (perhaps only slightly less so if hard cap imposed).
the players union and management have a terrible, self destructive relation ship imo...asterix city...it's inherently bad for the fans and bad for the game...it has to be about the LEAGUE
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Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 7:01:34am |
re: #362 lawhawk
Two ways to read that - the Supreme Court overruled 60% (3 of 5) of those cases brought before with Sotomayor being the author of the opinion, or that less than 1% of her cases were overturned (3 out of 380 opinions) (which is how Obama will spin it).
The truth is actually somewhere in the middle since there were several written opinions at the District Court level that went on to be overturned and upheld by the US Supreme Court (Tasani comes to mind).
Even if you consider that 3 of 5 cases were overturned, that actually is the norm given the Court's overall reversal rates.
The One says she is "brilliant", so it must be.
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pingjockey Wed, May 27, 2009 7:02:13am |
re: #385 CommonCents
There is a luxury tax, but it is not a cap.
Look for the NFL owners to go for a rookie salary cap when the current CBA expires in 2010.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:02:40am |
re: #387 vxbush
Gah....morning. Migraine.
Caffeine?
Morning vs, hey do you see flashing colors before those come on?
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 7:02:49am |
re: #385 CommonCents
I thought there was a threshhold that if exceeded the club had to pay a tax that was dispersed amongst the poor teams.
Answered myself. It's a luxury tax not a cap and my description is accurate.MLB Luxury Tax Breakdown.
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albusteve Wed, May 27, 2009 7:03:56am |
re: #385 CommonCents
I thought there was a threshhold that if exceeded the club had to pay a tax that was dispersed amongst the poor teams.
no...the players union is too strong...they will shut down the game if they want and like Ward said, they lost alot of die hard fans...the gap was filled but the game has changed and so have the fans....they only know a lower mound and designated hitters..it's a farce imo
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:04:10am |
re: #390 turn
Morning vs, hey do you see flashing colors before those come on?
Nope. My stomach gets upset sometimes, but I have no halos. I wish I did; then I could take the meds before the pain hits.
But today, I woke up with it, which is a bummer......
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MrSilverDragon Wed, May 27, 2009 7:04:14am |
re: #387 vxbush
Gah....morning. Migraine.
Caffeine?
Caffeine helps me when I get a migraine. As does a lot of water. Funny though, every pill I've ever gotten from doctors don't seem to do diddly.
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FrogMarch Wed, May 27, 2009 7:04:17am |
Hi all.
Anyone else watch PBS last night? Show on the Taliban in Pakistan. The Taliban are re-taking parts of Pakistan; they tear down schools and broadcast radical Islam over a loud radio. Daily. They take young boys and force them to memorize the Koran. Many young boys are used as suicide bombers. Because education is replaced with worship of the death cult - girls are forced out of school, back into a burka. Young boys are taught that women must remain unseen behind closed doors. The Taliban seem to be on their way to out-numbering Pakistan's army. Depressing.
Meanwhile, here in uber-lib Boulder, a group of lefty-ignorant students at Boulder High name their band "the tali-band". You know, because it's funny and clever. Many of the teachers at Boulder High think it's funny too. Assholes.
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albusteve Wed, May 27, 2009 7:04:57am |
re: #389 pingjockey
There is a luxury tax, but it is not a cap.
Look for the NFL owners to go for a rookie salary cap when the current CBA expires in 2010.
and they should...the NFL is light years ahead of baseball in that regard
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Miss Trixie Wed, May 27, 2009 7:05:26am |
re: #365 redstateredneck
Hey, {girlfriend}! How are you and Little Miss?
Morning {toots!} We're just fine, thanks for asking and how's every little thing? The pack behaving itself?
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Creeping Eruption Wed, May 27, 2009 7:05:36am |
re: #396 FrogMarch
Hi all.
Anyone else watch PBS last night? Show on the Taliban in Pakistan. The Taliban are re-taking parts of Pakistan; they tear down schools and broadcast radical Islam over a loud radio. Daily. They take young boys and force them to memorize the Koran. Many young boys are used as suicide bombers. Because education is replaced with worship of the death cult - girls are forced out of school, back into a burka. Young boys are taught that women must remain unseen behind closed doors. The Taliban seem to be on their way to out-numbering Pakistan's army. Depressing.Meanwhile, here in uber-lib Boulder, a group of lefty-ignorant students at Boulder High name their band "the tali-band". You know, because it's funny and clever. Many of the teachers at Boulder High think it's funny too. Assholes.
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KenJen Wed, May 27, 2009 7:05:53am |
re: #388 Ward Cleaver
The One says she is "brilliant", so it must be.
Good Morning America credited her with being a "mean guacamole maker". So I'd say she's qualified to be on the SCOTUS./
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pingjockey Wed, May 27, 2009 7:06:17am |
re: #394 vxbush
A friend of my wife has a small bedroom, soundproofed, heavy drapes and a very soft chair she goes to when her migranes hit.
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Miss Trixie Wed, May 27, 2009 7:06:20am |
re: #366 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (72 degrees going up to 82 degrees) cloudy day with heavy T-Storms in the forecast.
I hope everyone is doing well today.
Morning luv *smoochie-smooch* All's well here - how about yerself?
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:06:54am |
re: #394 vxbush
Nope. My stomach gets upset sometimes, but I have no halos. I wish I did; then I could take the meds before the pain hits.
But today, I woke up with it, which is a bummer......
I asked because turnspawn gets migraines on occasion, he sees the flashes and knows to take his med right away and make it to a dark room asap.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 7:06:57am |
Silence from the boloshpere and Tea Party organizers over the White Nationalists.
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:07:11am |
re: #395 MrSilverDragon
Caffeine helps me when I get a migraine. As does a lot of water. Funny though, every pill I've ever gotten from doctors don't seem to do diddly.
Caffeine good. Water good. Eletriptan fantastic. :D
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albusteve Wed, May 27, 2009 7:07:39am |
re: #400 KenJen
Good Morning America credited her with being a "mean guacamole maker". So I'd say she's qualified to be on the SCOTUS./
RACIST!....good guacamole has like 4 ingredients
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VioletTiger Wed, May 27, 2009 7:07:59am |
re: #395 MrSilverDragon
Caffeine helps me when I get a migraine. As does a lot of water. Funny though, every pill I've ever gotten from doctors don't seem to do diddly.
Immetrix works for me, but also Excedrin migraine, which has caffeine.
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:08:01am |
re: #401 pingjockey
A friend of my wife has a small bedroom, soundproofed, heavy drapes and a very soft chair she goes to when her migranes hit.
Ooooo, good plan.
I'm going to look over that photo shoot from North Korea; so far, the three shots have been fascinating.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 7:08:31am |
re: #400 KenJen
Good Morning America credited her with being a "mean guacamole maker". So I'd say she's qualified to be on the SCOTUS./
Imagine if Scalia made the same comment. Liberal heads everywhere would be exploding.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 27, 2009 7:08:46am |
re: #398 Miss Trixie
Morning {toots!} We're just fine, thanks for asking and how's every little thing? The pack behaving itself?
The pack had to spend the long weekend boarded at the vet's. They always come home looking like POW's who have just been released. Not that they've been mistreated, but when you're used to the comforts of home and find yourself in a kennel with a dog run it's kind of traumatic.
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J.S. Wed, May 27, 2009 7:08:46am |
re: #362 lawhawk
I think looking at the number of reversals is a very poor way of assessing Sonia Sotomayor's suitability/expertise, etc. (there are far too many conflicting factors to consider, such as "what was the make-up of the Supreme Court at the time of the reversal?"). A better approach may be to simply look at her decisions and discuss the merits/lack of merits of those decisions, etc. (as opposed to doing some sort of quantitative tally which really provides very little relevant information...)
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:09:10am |
re: #407 VioletTiger
Immetrix works for me, but also Excedrin migraine, which has caffeine.
Imitrex stopped working for me about three years ago. Excedrin migraine has never ever worked. I wish it did.
/time for photos
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 7:09:36am |
re: #348 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It looks like North Korea's saber rattling is getting a whole lot louder, and they're now threatening overt war because South Korea is joining the PSI - a US-backed initiative to prevent WMD proliferation.
North Korea continues lobbing rhetorical bombs, even as it tests its missiles and successfully tested a nuclear weapon. Yet, the regime is making the claim that South Korea is the bad guy. Classic.
Of course, Iran is watching all this go down intently. They see that the UN is incapable of acting, the IAEA is powerless, and no one is stepping up to stand up to this.
For those who think that China is pulling the strings, consider the possibility that they are no longer able to do so. This is a regime that is insular and isolated, and there is no reason to believe that China can exert control over the regime. What exactly is China going to do to stop North Korea? Withhold food? Send back refugees? Once North Korea tested that nuclear weapon, China's sway diminishes greatly.
China had been holding the rattlesnake by the tail, and now it too could be bitten.
I think you're right; China has lost control. They don't want a war, but it looks like we'll get one.
With a totally incompetent commander in chief.
I wonder how quickly GM can retool to make weapons. Probably not fast enough.
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:09:47am |
Bomb in Pakistan's Lahore kills 22
LAHORE, Pakistan (Reuters) - Gunmen attacked a police headquarters in the Pakistani city of Lahore on Wednesday, setting off a car-bomb that killed at least 22 people in what the government said was revenge for an offensive against the Taliban.
There was no claim of responsibility for the attack, which wounded nearly 300 people and caused extensive damage. It came after warnings of strikes in response to the army's attack on militants in the Swat region in the northwest.
The blast also hit after General David Petraeus, head of the U.S. Central Command, was in Islamabad for meetings on Tuesday with government and military leaders.
The United States needs Pakistani action against militants to help defeat al Qaeda and disrupt support for the Taliban in Afghanistan. It has welcomed the Swat offensive.
"I believe that anti-Pakistan elements, who want to destabilize our country and see defeat in Swat, have now turned to our cities," Interior Minister Rehman Malik told reporters.
The bomb, which officials said was a suicide attack, brought down a government ambulance service building and damaged a nearby office of the military's main intelligence agency.
[Link: www.reuters.com...] [note, the military's main intelligence agency is in direct conflict with the Taliban/Al-Q loving ISI - Pakistan's version of our CIA/FBI combined].
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:09:59am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
This is an official announcement:
I loathe Sarkozy, I loathe the French (and Gord, well I loathe him anyway!)!
This is the reason:
D-Day snub to Queen: Palace fury as Sarkozy refuses to invite royals to 65th Anniversary
And Gord snaffles an invitation for himself, although he wasn't going to go in the first place. But guess who's coming? FCBBHO!
W*****s!
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 7:10:03am |
re: #393 albusteve
no...the players union is too strong...they will shut down the game if they want and like Ward said, they lost alot of die hard fans...the gap was filled but the game has changed and so have the fans....they only know a lower mound and designated hitters..it's a farce imo
I also don't like they way the umpiring has gone. Guys getting ejected and fined for the brushback? You can't hit a batter on purpose anymore. What's up with that?
The same with hockey. Yeah, you get more scoring when the teams on constantly on the power play but nowadays you have teams that can go weeks without a fighting major. Heck, my favorite team doesn't even have a goon on the roster. (Go Wings!)
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:10:25am |
re: #404 Killgore Trout
Silence from the boloshpere and Tea Party organizers over the White Nationalists.
Morning KT, I read Charles post this morning on how the WNs are trying to co-op the tea parties. I'm going to go read stormfront, I've never visited that site.
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FrogMarch Wed, May 27, 2009 7:10:45am |
re: #399 Creeping Eruption
The attack reinforced an assessment by Pakistani and American authorities that Taliban insurgents were teaming up with local militant groups to make inroads in Punjab, which is home to more than half of Pakistanis. The alliance poses a serious risk to the stability of the country, those authorities said.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 7:10:47am |
re: #412 J.S.
I think looking at the number of reversals is a very poor way of assessing Sonia Sotomayor's suitability/expertise, etc. (there are far too many conflicting factors to consider, such as "what was the make-up of the Supreme Court at the time of the reversal?"). A better approach may be to simply look at her decisions and discuss the merits/lack of merits of those decisions, etc. (as opposed to doing some sort of quantitative tally which really provides very little relevant information...)
It would depend on the reason for the reversal. If it is based on interpretation of the law, or a technicality were the law was overlooked.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 7:11:03am |
re: #396 FrogMarch
Hi all.
Anyone else watch PBS last night? Show on the Taliban in Pakistan. The Taliban are re-taking parts of Pakistan; they tear down schools and broadcast radical Islam over a loud radio. Daily. They take young boys and force them to memorize the Koran. Many young boys are used as suicide bombers. Because education is replaced with worship of the death cult - girls are forced out of school, back into a burka. Young boys are taught that women must remain unseen behind closed doors. The Taliban seem to be on their way to out-numbering Pakistan's army. Depressing.Meanwhile, here in uber-lib Boulder, a group of lefty-ignorant students at Boulder High name their band "the tali-band". You know, because it's funny and clever. Many of the teachers at Boulder High think it's funny too. Assholes.
They should be taught what the Taliban does to music.
But it should be an educational experience, since they don't know any better.
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 7:11:38am |
re: #418 turn
I'm going to need a few more cups of coffee before I visit stormfront this morning.
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reine.de.tout Wed, May 27, 2009 7:12:04am |
re: #404 Killgore Trout
Silence from the boloshpere and Tea Party organizers over the White Nationalists.
The silence is indeed frighteningly deafening.
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rightside Wed, May 27, 2009 7:12:34am |
re: #421 Kosh's Shadow
ok, I gotta know how your avatar shows up like that, but when I click on it, it shows the green football?
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:12:43am |
re: #416 yma o hyd
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
This is an official announcement:
I loathe Sarkozy, I loathe the French (and Gord, well I loathe him anyway!)!
This is the reason:
D-Day snub to Queen: Palace fury as Sarkozy refuses to invite royals to 65th AnniversaryAnd Gord snaffles an invitation for himself, although he wasn't going to go in the first place. But guess who's coming? FCBBHO!
W*****s!
How rude. And inconsiderate. And snobbish. And.... well, that's all I can pull out today.
| 426 |
Gella Wed, May 27, 2009 7:12:43am |
re: #387 vxbush
Gah....morning. Migraine.
Caffeine?
yes, its the weather, had it since yesterday, been chugging pills
| 427 |
MrSilverDragon Wed, May 27, 2009 7:13:42am |
re: #422 Killgore Trout
I'm going to need a few more cups of coffee before I visit stormfront this morning.
Be sure to take some barf bags as well.
| 428 |
lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 7:14:13am |
re: #377 pingjockey
Harvard Law Review conducts an annual review of decisions reached, and based on my posting yesterday of 2008 and 2007 decisions, I'd say that the 9th remains the most reversed in the nation. You can review the back issues (it's the November editions that have the statistics (listed at the bottom of each of those November issues).
| 430 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 7:14:33am |
re: #384 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
SEX!
Now that I've got your attention - here's a great article about multi-cultural New Age cowardice in the face of a post 9/11 world by Charles Winecoff over at Big Hollywood.
Good grief, that's a looooong article. I'll have to finish it at lunch.
| 431 |
realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:14:34am |
re: #383 VioletTiger
Good morning VioletTiger - lawhawk may disagree with me, but SCOTUS usally only accepts about 2% of the cases which are appealed to it. That they agreed to hear 5 of her court cases is in some ways more significant than that they overturned 3 of those 5.
But I actually think it doesn't mean much; the Second Circuit Court of Appeals covers NYC among others and there are, as you can imagine, thousands of cases which get appealed from trial courts there; that they agreed to hear 5 of the cases which she wrote the opinon on is I believe fairly insignificant.
| 432 |
vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:14:36am |
re: #426 Gella
yes, its the weather, had it since yesterday, been chugging pills
I'm sorry you have to suffer, too.
{all migraine sufferers}
Thankfully, work today is minimal, so I can go slowly.
| 433 |
CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 7:15:06am |
re: #416 yma o hyd
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
This is an official announcement:
I loathe Sarkozy, I loathe the French (and Gord, well I loathe him anyway!)!
This is the reason:
D-Day snub to Queen: Palace fury as Sarkozy refuses to invite royals to 65th AnniversaryAnd Gord snaffles an invitation for himself, although he wasn't going to go in the first place. But guess who's coming? FCBBHO!
W*****s!
I thought Sarkozy was better than that. How disappointing.
| 434 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 7:15:31am |
We knew this was coming:
US Muslim Women: NY Synagogue Bomb Plan was FBI Plot
The National Association of Muslim American Women (NAMAW) has charged the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) with entrapping four New York City Muslims arrested for planning to bomb a synagogue.
NAMAW appealed to the Justice Department to investigate the case, accusing the FBI of plotting to entrap the cell as part of a campaign against Muslims. It said that the FBI is “creating the illusion that all Muslims are either terrorists or potential terrorists, thereby substantiating the use of racial and religious profiling on Muslims and Arabs.
The Muslim women’s group, which previously has asked for a probe of Jewish lobby groups for allegedly spreading hate messages, claimed that one of those arrested has been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. They also charged that the FBI informant “persuaded these men into believing that their religion obligated them to carry out acts of violence in the United States in retaliation for U.S. war crimes being carried out in the Muslim world.'
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J.S. Wed, May 27, 2009 7:15:40am |
re: #420 soxfan4life
There was an interesting post yesterday about assessing judges (it's how a judge is "judged" -- but it's only used if the judge has been accused of incompetence, or someone wants the judge off the bench, etc.)..I'll look for that post...(oh, and imo, this really isn't useful in considering Sonia Sotomayor -- just of "general interest" ).
| 437 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 7:16:19am |
re: #424 rightside
ok, I gotta know how your avatar shows up like that, but when I click on it, it shows the green football?
I haven't figured that out and Charles hasn't said. I think the avatar is too small for the expanded view. Maybe someday I'll make or get a bigger one.
| 438 |
Miss Trixie Wed, May 27, 2009 7:16:24am |
Courtesy of a sweet friend of mine: :D
What is the difference between Bird Flu and Swine Flu?
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For bird flu you need tweetment and for swine flu you need oinkment.
| 439 |
Gella Wed, May 27, 2009 7:16:24am |
re: #432 vxbush
I'm sorry you have to suffer, too.
{all migraine sufferers}
Thankfully, work today is minimal, so I can go slowly.
nea, its ok, thanks :)
at one point i had so many, so i got used to them, but i didn't have migraine in 8+ months, which was great, and this is 2nd big one in a month and a half
I hope you'll feel better, best medicine i found out, is sleep, if you can
| 440 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 7:16:26am |
re: #400 KenJen
Good Morning America credited her with being a "mean guacamole maker". So I'd say she's qualified to be on the SCOTUS./
Freakin' airheads.
| 441 |
vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:16:30am |
re: #429 Iron Fist
The One thought Jeramiah Wright was brilliant, a true prophet of the Black Gospel, until his views became generally known. Then it wa "Under the bus with you!", and I never really heard him speak/paid any attention to that crazy old man. Obama doesn't have a lot of grit to stand up for his people. If the Republican's can get anything substantial on her (and I'd say her remarks on the Second Amendment are substantial) and drive it home (the Republicans are incompetant at this), Obama will cut her loose with no remorse. He won't go to the mat for her. He won't go to the mat for anyone.
I would have to agree. Obama seems to hold his opinions, positions (for the most part), and friendships with a limp wrist. However, he is pretty dedicated to certain things, like "spreading the wealth." I think he'll hold on to that as long and as hard as possible, despite any moves against him.
Explain to me why no one has filed a lawsuit against him for what he has done to GM.....
| 442 |
Lincolntf Wed, May 27, 2009 7:17:04am |
re: #434 Kosh's Shadow
Aw, sheesh, the FBI set it up?
That shoots down my theory that it was a Tea Party plot.
| 443 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 7:17:24am |
re: #423 reine.de.tout
My guess is they are going to ignore it and hope the attention goes away.
| 444 |
redstateredneck Wed, May 27, 2009 7:17:29am |
re: #425 vxbush
How rude. And inconsiderate. And snobbish. And.... well, that's all I can pull out today.
How Fwench!
| 445 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:17:30am |
re: #425 vxbush
How rude. And inconsiderate. And snobbish. And.... well, that's all I can pull out today.
Just had a quick glance upthread - I do hope your migraine succumbs to the caffeine treatment!
{vxbush}
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 7:17:42am |
re: #419 FrogMarch
If there were an insurgency like that in the U.S. do you think the people would just cower and say "okay mr. bomber, we'll do whatever you want. Please subjugate us." I would expect the populace would open the gun cabinet and get busy.
| 447 |
lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 7:18:13am |
re: #412 J.S.
That's what should happen, but trying to explain the complexity of Tasani or Ricci isn't nearly as expedient as saying she was reversed 60% of the time (or less than 1% if you're supporting her nomination). Soundbites matter, and reversal rate is going to stick in people's minds.
You're right that it goes to the merits of each opinion that should be discussed. After all, she could have been right in opining in case X, and the Supreme Court wrong in reversing.
More important is how she reasons her cases, and there is some evidence that she took shortcuts - one of the reports yesterday indicated that she issued a slip opinion in one instance that was one paragraph long, when the record from the case stretched for hundreds of pages. Again, we'd have to look closer to see if the case merited a deeper discussion or whether the ruling stands on its own.
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:19:37am |
re: #445 yma o hyd
Just had a quick glance upthread - I do hope your migraine succumbs to the caffeine treatment!
{vxbush}
I have a good friend and he has a tendency to send out emails on bad days, explain why the day is bad, and then finish the message with, "Pity me, pity me." For some reason, it's hysterical when he does it.
This is my "pity me" post. :D
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VioletTiger Wed, May 27, 2009 7:20:03am |
re: #431 realwest
Good morning VioletTiger - lawhawk may disagree with me, but SCOTUS usually only accepts about 2% of the cases which are appealed to it. That they agreed to hear 5 of her court cases is in some ways more significant than that they overturned 3 of those 5.
But I actually think it doesn't mean much; the Second Circuit Court of Appeals covers NYC among others and there are, as you can imagine, thousands of cases which get appealed from trial courts there; that they agreed to hear 5 of the cases which she wrote the opinion on is I believe fairly insignificant.
Good morning, real.
When you say significant, what do you mean? Is it good that her cases qualify for review--she worked on significant things. Or maybe is it bad because they think she may have screwed up the ruling. I don't know how to interpret this.
Aside from some of her statements that I find objectionable, I am trying to get an accurate read on this nomination. The knowledge of the lizards is hard to beat.
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:20:05am |
re: #433 CommonCents
Sarkozy seems to want to cosy up to FCBBHO, as does Gord.
In the report it says that the Queen is actually the only surviving head of state who wore a uniform in WWII - none of the others have any idea what it was actually like.
The snub is so infuriating, words fail me!
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reine.de.tout Wed, May 27, 2009 7:20:10am |
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lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 7:20:12am |
re: #431 realwest
Actually, I agree with that sentiment. If you focus on the numbers too much you ignore the reasoning of her cases. It's a good point that the Supreme Court picks and chooses its cases to hear - it's very selective and of the thousands of cases appealed to the Court, only a fraction are heard. More often than not, it's cert denied.
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reine.de.tout Wed, May 27, 2009 7:20:41am |
re: #449 vxbush
I have a good friend and he has a tendency to send out emails on bad days, explain why the day is bad, and then finish the message with, "Pity me, pity me." For some reason, it's hysterical when he does it.
This is my "pity me" post. :D
Aw, {vx}
Loads of pity coming your way.
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:20:41am |
re: #416 yma o hyd
Good afternoon {yma} - don't get yourself so worked up over this; after all it's really only Gordon Brown and Sarkozy involved - not as if this involved people of stature.
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rightside Wed, May 27, 2009 7:20:44am |
re: #432 vxbush
My mom suffered with severe migraines for years, Drs. thought it was an allergy to dust, but no matter how much she tried to avoid it by wearing masks and such, it did nothing.
One day, she went to a chiropractor, had her back adjusted, and has never had another one again ever.
Just throwing that out there.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:20:46am |
re: #416 yma o hyd
Morning yma, no curly braces this AM but if I ever meet you in person I'd give you a real hug and gently massage those tired hands with biofreeze - hey you ought to try that stuff. Funny story, the boob has taken to the habit of running pretty far ahead of me on our walks. He beet me to the swimming hole last night and was there waiting for me when I showed up. These swimming holes have become depleted of sticks to throw so I've got in the habit of finding one before I get there. So I show up with this stick and he's waiting there watching me intently crouched down and moving side to side. So I throw the stick out there and he does NOTHING, just keeps looking at me. Get the stick, get the stick - still nothing and he's pointing his nose down at the ground. So I look down and lo and behold he's found a friggin flip flop that he wants to play with instead of the stick. He loves those flip flops, this is about the third or fourth one he's found. I've learned to skim them out there like rocks. What a boob, he's got me trained.
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UFO TOFU Wed, May 27, 2009 7:21:22am |
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Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 7:21:55am |
re: #452 yma o hyd
Sarkozy seems to want to cosy up to FCBBHO, as does Gord.
In the report it says that the Queen is actually the only surviving head of state who wore a uniform in WWII - none of the others have any idea what it was actually like.
The snub is so infuriating, words fail me!
That pisses me off, too. She should just crash the party, IMNSHO.
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 7:21:58am |
re: #452 yma o hyd
Sarkozy seems to want to cosy up to FCBBHO, as does Gord.
In the report it says that the Queen is actually the only surviving head of state who wore a uniform in WWII - none of the others have any idea what it was actually like.The snub is so infuriating, words fail me!
I doubt some of them even know what it was about. Dumbasses.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 27, 2009 7:22:42am |
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:22:46am |
re: #457 rightside
My mom suffered with severe migraines for years, Drs. thought it was an allergy to dust, but no matter how much she tried to avoid it by wearing masks and such, it did nothing.
One day, she went to a chiropractor, had her back adjusted, and has never had another one again ever.
Just throwing that out there.
I appreciate the desire to help, but back issues aren't my problem; it's hormones, as proven by my current set of meds. We did some tweaking about a month back and the number of migraines has gone way down.
Sometimes being a woman just seriously sucks.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 7:22:56am |
re: #460 Ward Cleaver
That pisses me off, too. She should just crash the party, IMNSHO.
She could re-create the Normandy invasion and show up in a landing craft with a rifle.
The French would turn and run.
/////
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Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 7:23:21am |
re: #465 Kosh's Shadow
She could re-create the Normandy invasion and show up in a landing craft with a rifle.
The French would turn and run.
/////
No sarc there, buddy!
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Gella Wed, May 27, 2009 7:23:42am |
re: #464 vxbush
I appreciate the desire to help, but back issues aren't my problem; it's hormones, as proven by my current set of meds. We did some tweaking about a month back and the number of migraines has gone way down.
Sometimes being a woman just seriously sucks.
mine caused by bright light or weather change, sometimes by stress
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:23:48am |
re: #418 turn
Uh turn my friend, kindly run a virus and malware program after you go there. And I have to confess to being happy that Killgore goes there all the time so I don't have to!
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redstateredneck Wed, May 27, 2009 7:23:57am |
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 7:24:20am |
re: #462 rightside
What is the avatar anyway?
Supposed to be a Jewish guy, sort of Chassidic. (I'm not Chassidic, but I do go to services at Chabad.) Someone described it as if it were done as a Terence and Philip cartoon. Well, I was using the Mac version of Paint. Someday, maybe, I'll do a better one.
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 7:24:28am |
re: #465 Kosh's Shadow
She could re-create the Normandy invasion and show up in a landing craft with a rifle.
The French would turn and run.
/////
And 0bama would issue a heartfelt apology to them.
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Gella Wed, May 27, 2009 7:24:40am |
re: #464 vxbush
I appreciate the desire to help, but back issues aren't my problem; it's hormones, as proven by my current set of meds. We did some tweaking about a month back and the number of migraines has gone way down.
Sometimes being a woman just seriously sucks.
on the other hand........................... read this
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
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UFO TOFU Wed, May 27, 2009 7:24:51am |
re: #463 redstateredneck
Only if it makes you think you're better than us!
;-)
I don't, but I am extra-terrestrial...
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SixDegrees Wed, May 27, 2009 7:25:04am |
re: #383 VioletTiger
So do you think this is significant or insignificant when considering this candidate? Not being a lawyer or one who follows these things closely, I find it hard to say. From a purely mathematical standpoint, 'getting it wrong' 60% of the time is not a great record. However, 5 is a very small sample.
No one uses this metric - the number of cases overturned divided by the number of cases appealed. It was chosen explicitly to produce a seemingly high reversal rate. However, no one appeals a case to the Surpreme Court unless they feel they stand a reasonable chance of winning; and the Supreme Court doesn't hear cases that don't stand a reasonable chance of reversal - they send them back to the originating court. So the chances of being reversed once an appeal has been mounted at this level is high simply because that's the way the system works.
Those pushing this metric are attempting to conflate it with the reversal rate - which is actually the number of reversals divided by the judge's total number of cases heard - or the appeals rate, the number of cases appealed divided by the total number of cases heard. These metrics - which are actually used occasionally, unlike the nonexistent metric being pushed here - are much, much lower, and from what lawhawk has said are comparable to the rates for other judges in similar positions, a small fraction of a percent.
Briefly, cooking up a metric like this, which no one uses and which is guaranteed to be high, and pushing it as the judge's "reversal rate" is a steaming pile of bullshit, a lie wrapped around fictitious measurement that is explicitly designed to look as bad as possible. Any attempt to push this in the Senate as an actual objection is going to backfire loudly - it doesn't take more than fourth-grade arithmetic to expose it as crap. It's precisely equivalent to a concoted metric of "Judicial Absenteeism on Fridays" cooked up to use against a Jewish nominee, or "Rate of Reversals Handed Down on Tuesdays Following a Full Moon," in search of some arbitrary number that makes one particular nominee look bad.
No wonder the people pushing this were so deceptive in presenting it, and so reluctant to provide any evidence at all in support of it.
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:25:09am |
re: #467 Gella
mine caused by bright light or weather change, sometimes by stress
In theory, chocolate can cause problems, but I refuse to accept that analysis.
/
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:25:37am |
re: #448 pingjockey
WHAT?! WTF kind of nonsense is that?
That is what happens when ar*ehole politicians wade in and use a truly huge event in the history of our people to make themselves look good.
None of them have any personal experience of military service - and the Queen actually was in the army during WWII!
Its a huge snub to her, to our veterans, and to all servicemen and women.
One thing everybody here knows - she truly loves 'her' veterans, adn that Gord couldn't even bestir himself to get ehr invited just shwos that this memorial day is being turned into a political event - dissing and fogetting all those who fought and shed their blood on those beaches.
I despise the whole lot of them.
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Gella Wed, May 27, 2009 7:25:44am |
re: #476 vxbush
In theory, chocolate can cause problems, but I refuse to accept that analysis.
/
me neither, its not chocolate :) i experiment with it every day, sometimes few times a day :)))))
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MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 7:25:51am |
re: #416 yma o hyd
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
This is an official announcement:
I loathe Sarkozy, I loathe the French (and Gord, well I loathe him anyway!)!
This is the reason:
D-Day snub to Queen: Palace fury as Sarkozy refuses to invite royals to 65th AnniversaryAnd Gord snaffles an invitation for himself, although he wasn't going to go in the first place. But guess who's coming? FCBBHO!
W*****s!
Simply inconceivable. What the fuck is Sarkozy thinking?
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pingjockey Wed, May 27, 2009 7:25:52am |
The French can't handle the visit of the one and the queen? What the hell?
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Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 7:26:29am |
Crazy Pam.....
FBI TERRORISM TASK FORCE USED TO TERRORIZE PATRIOT
They are more afraid of their own government than they are White Nationalists.
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CommonCents Wed, May 27, 2009 7:26:33am |
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:26:34am |
re: #468 realwest
Uh turn my friend, kindly run a virus and malware program after you go there. And I have to confess to being happy that Killgore goes there all the time so I don't have to!
Morning real, haven't gone yet but those comments Charles posted were startling. Hey real, did Charles reveal that photoshopped pic of the Beirut fires?
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:26:56am |
re: #473 Gella
on the other hand........................... read this
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
That may be true, but I can't body-slam the son the way my hubby can. :D
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soxfan4life Wed, May 27, 2009 7:27:18am |
re: #477 yma o hyd
That is what happens when ar*ehole politicians wade in and use a truly huge event in the history of our people to make themselves look good.
None of them have any personal experience of military service - and the Queen actually was in the army during WWII!Its a huge snub to her, to our veterans, and to all servicemen and women.
One thing everybody here knows - she truly loves 'her' veterans, adn that Gord couldn't even bestir himself to get ehr invited just shwos that this memorial day is being turned into a political event - dissing and fogetting all those who fought and shed their blood on those beaches.I despise the whole lot of them.
Unless their looking for votes, none of them have any use for veterans.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, May 27, 2009 7:28:01am |
re: #471 Kosh's Shadow
Supposed to be a Jewish guy, sort of Chassidic. (I'm not Chassidic, but I do go to services at Chabad.) Someone described it as if it were done as a Terence and Philip cartoon. Well, I was using the Mac version of Paint. Someday, maybe, I'll do a better one.
That was me - I meant it as a compliment!
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:28:11am |
re: #456 realwest
Good afternoon {yma} - don't get yourself so worked up over this; after all it's really only Gordon Brown and Sarkozy involved - not as if this involved people of stature.
Hiya, {rw} - well that FCBBHO is coming, thats why Sarkozy and Gord don't want anybody else, like the Queen, to actually steal the show.
They couldn't care less about the veterans - but the veterans (well, the British ones) do care enormously for the Queen, as she does for them.
Disgusting.
I'm really cross!
And its been raining all day, as well!
Gah!
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:28:16am |
re: #478 Gella
me neither, its not chocolate :) i experiment with it every day, sometimes few times a day :)))))
I have discovered that more testing produces better results.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 7:28:41am |
re: #486 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That was me - I meant it as a compliment!
And I took it in the proper spirit.
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:29:29am |
re: #487 yma o hyd
Hiya, {rw} - well that FCBBHO is coming, thats why Sarkozy and Gord don't want anybody else, like the Queen, to actually steal the show.
They couldn't care less about the veterans - but the veterans (well, the British ones) do care enormously for the Queen, as she does for them.Disgusting.
I'm really cross!And its been raining all day, as well!
Gah!
She should host her own garden party for all the vets of WWII still alive. That would probably mean more to them than any visit to Fwance.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:29:38am |
re: #475 SixDegrees
Thanks six, man I'm glad I come here to get information. btw, are you an attorney?
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UFO TOFU Wed, May 27, 2009 7:29:52am |
re: #487 yma o hyd
I'm really cross!And its been raining all day, as well!
Gah!
Life may be a shipwreck, but we can still party in the lifeboats!
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pingjockey Wed, May 27, 2009 7:30:01am |
re: #477 yma o hyd
This is simply stunning. Did the French tell the rest of the Allies not to send their heads of state because French security is so foul they can't protect visiting heads of state?!
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VioletTiger Wed, May 27, 2009 7:31:12am |
re: #475 SixDegrees
This is what I was trying to understand. I don't have any context to evaluate the figures. So if I understand correctly, this is really no big deal and is no indication of her judgement.
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:31:13am |
re: #458 turn
Hiya {turn}!
Thanks for the hands-advice - I'm now abck on that arnica gel, works ok!
As for that wonderful dog of yours - yep, he's got you trained!
But don't worry - there's not one dog owner I know who hasn't been trained perfectly by their dogs, not a one!
I suspect the dogs do the obedience stuff just to show us how its done, and that we must do better!
:-)
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:31:41am |
re: #451 VioletTiger
The percentage of cases WHICH SHE WROTE THE MAJORITY opinion on is, IMO, significant only in that 5 of them actually were heard by the SCOTUS. If we were talking about only 5 cases of the Second Circuit being heard by the SCOTUS then it would be insignificant.
But the reality of the matter is that this isn't like baseball; the types of cases she heard, the complexity, the quality of both prosecuting and defense attorneys are, frankly, more complex and more sophisticated than those heard by many other Circuits around the country. You'd have to examine each of the five, see why SCOTUS did what it did with each of them before you could reach any conclusion about her skill as a jurist.
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VioletTiger Wed, May 27, 2009 7:32:15am |
re: #487 yma o hyd
Hiya, {rw} - well that FCBBHO is coming, thats why Sarkozy and Gord don't want anybody else, like the Queen, to actually steal the show.
They couldn't care less about the veterans - but the veterans (well, the British ones) do care enormously for the Queen, as she does for them.Disgusting.
I'm really cross!And its been raining all day, as well!
Gah!
Hi yma. Don't blame you for being angry. It just does not make sense. There is no excuse for the slight.
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:32:32am |
re: #460 Ward Cleaver
That pisses me off, too. She should just crash the party, IMNSHO.
Unfortunately, she can't - protocol forbids it.
No more invitations to the Palace for any of that lot, I'm sure!
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Eowyn2 Wed, May 27, 2009 7:32:40am |
Request
Prayers for the men and women of the USMC and Army stationed on the 38th parallel. It's going to be a very rough year.
And to keep to important topics, does anyone know where I can buy white roof paint, cause you know, its important to reflect the light and heat back into the atmosphere to slow down global warming.
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lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 7:32:48am |
re: #451 VioletTiger
It's a combination of factors, including that she worked on significant issues of national interest. It could be that different circuits reached different conclusions, and the Supreme Court wants to unify the treatment on those issues. Or, there are issues of law and policy that have to be addressed substantively in ways that the legislature failed to do- defining terms and/or application of the law.
It can also be because Supreme Court believes that the merits of the appeal are worthy of discussion (given that so few are heard in the first place).
Cases can be heard if four of the justices agree to do so (rule of 4). There are certain emergency situations where that rule doesn't apply (think death penalty appeals), but the rule of four is most common.
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MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 7:33:09am |
It's like having a family reunion and not inviting everyone's favorite aunt!
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:34:38am |
re: #465 Kosh's Shadow
She could re-create the Normandy invasion and show up in a landing craft with a rifle.
The French would turn and run.
/////
Especially if Prince Phillip is at her side - I may have my wires crossed ehhe, but iirc, he may have taken part in the raid on Dieppe ...
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MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 7:35:14am |
re: #499 yma o hyd
Unfortunately, she can't - protocol forbids it.
No more invitations to the Palace for any of that lot, I'm sure!
I hope the Palace finds a creative way to tear a strip off of Sarkozy.
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:35:40am |
re: #469 redstateredneck
Hey there {red} - *smooch* to you! How are ya today?
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:35:59am |
re: #479 MandyManners
Simply inconceivable. What the fuck is Sarkozy thinking?
He wants some sprinkling of FCBBHO's 'stardust' to fall upon him ...
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:37:15am |
re: #508 yma o hyd
He wants some sprinkling of FCBBHO's 'stardust' to fall upon him ...
I don't think that comes from stars....
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lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 7:37:21am |
re: #383 VioletTiger
I'd have to look at each of the cases to see what the procedural histories is to judge. My sense of Sotomayor is that she's competent at what she does, and doing so in NYC means that when cases of significance reach her desk, it's newsworthy (as in the MLB issue). How she rules is more important than the number - and while I may not agree with her politics, she does seem to have the right qualifications and experience to be on the Court.
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Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 7:37:31am |
Governor General's "seal meal" sparks controversy
Gov. Gen. Michaëlle Jean snacking on a slain seal's raw heart has sparked criticism from the European Union and animal rights groups.
Barbara Slee, an anti-seal hunt campaigner at the International Fund for Animal Welfare in Brussels, said she was disgusted by Jean's actions.
"The fact that the Governor General in public is slashing and eating a seal, I don't think that really helps the cause, and I'm convinced that this will not change the mind of European citizens and politicians," Slee told The Associated Press.
"It amazes us that a Canadian official would indulge in such bloodlust," Dan Mathews, senior vice-president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, told the Toronto Star.
"It sounds like she's trying to give Canadians an even more Neanderthal image around the world than they already have."
Frankly, I'm impressed. G. G. Michaëlle Jean showed the Inuit respect by sharing a traditional meal with them. The fact that the Inuit of Rankin Inlet are not even involved in the Newfoundland seal hunt which the Europeans have been protesting seems lost on these "animal rights" busy bodies & PETA fanatics.
Inuit leaders responded:
"I just want to thank her for her support of our people and our culture." Both Simon and Paul Kaludjak, president of the land claims group Nunavut Tunngavik Inc., said the seal hunt is not a controversial issue among Inuit. "We don't really care about how the outside world thinks about how we eat our country food," Kaludjak said. "Let them be disgusted, whatever they want to pursue, and that's their choice." Kaludjak added there are better things to do than to criticize other people's practices.
Three cheers for Michaëlle Jean! Damn right I'm a Canadian Neanderthal and proud of it!
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:37:39am |
re: #480 pingjockey
The French can't handle the visit of the one and the queen? What the hell?
FCBBHO has priority, he can't be put in the shade by someone like the Queen.
He'd never forgive Sarkozy for that.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 27, 2009 7:37:45am |
re: #507 realwest
Hey there {red} - *smooch* to you! How are ya today?
*Smooch* back atcha! I'm good; thanks for asking. You and mom both well?
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 7:39:02am |
re: #500 Eowyn2
Prayers for the men and women of the USMC and Army stationed on the 38th parallel.
Hear, hear.
IIRC most US forces on the peninsula have been redeployed to somewhere south of Seoul over the last several years; so at least they are no longer the "speed bump".
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:39:02am |
re: #490 vxbush
She should host her own garden party for all the vets of WWII still alive. That would probably mean more to them than any visit to Fwance.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if she indeed were going to do something like that!
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 7:39:41am |
re: #481 Killgore Trout
Crazy Pam.....
FBI TERRORISM TASK FORCE USED TO TERRORIZE PATRIOTThey are more afraid of their own government than they are White Nationalists.
Not surprising coming from Crazy Pam. In fact, I'd be surprised if it didn't. Look at who she considers her allies in the anti-jihad. She prefers to ally with similar groups in Europe, so why not here? Ironic though, that she would ally with them while condemning Buchanan and memorializing the Holocaust, that which these groups both deny and wish to repeat (just like their jihadist cousins).
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Eowyn2 Wed, May 27, 2009 7:40:22am |
re: #487 yma o hyd
Hiya, {rw} - well that FCBBHO is coming, thats why Sarkozy and Gord don't want anybody else, like the Queen, to actually steal the show.
They couldn't care less about the veterans - but the veterans (well, the British ones) do care enormously for the Queen, as she does for them.Disgusting.
I'm really cross!And its been raining all day, as well!
Gah!
will gord have a nice pic with a tumbled helmet and a tear glistening in his eye?
The queen should be there.
It never rains in california....
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:40:53am |
re: #493 pingjockey
This is simply stunning. Did the French tell the rest of the Allies not to send their heads of state because French security is so foul they can't protect visiting heads of state?!
I've no idea - Gord wasn't invited, originally, and wasn't going to give any support to the veterans who wanted to go - until a huge campaign made him change his mind.
And I don't think that the Queen would need a lot of security - not with all those veterans around her!
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Bloodnok Wed, May 27, 2009 7:40:59am |
re: #481 Killgore Trout
Crazy Pam.....
FBI TERRORISM TASK FORCE USED TO TERRORIZE PATRIOTThey are more afraid of their own government than they are White Nationalists.
She's having a hard time keeping up with herself. It can't be easy to keep up such consistent levels of crazy.
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lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 7:41:42am |
re: #379 turn
I can't recall if this particular metric has been used before, but it is shorthand for saying that on several key opinions, she's been overruled by the Supreme Court. That's significant in that she might swing the vote on the Court to her view, rather than how the Court actually ruled.
Again, one has to look at the procedural histories and do some actual research to figure out what went on; it's much easier to come up with a easily identifiable metric to use to attack a nominee.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 7:41:47am |
re: #480 pingjockey
The French can't handle the visit of the one and the queen? What the hell?
Maybe they're freaked out by the idea of the WAB huggin' on her again.
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:42:16am |
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:42:21am |
re: #483 turn Yes indeed, Charles did expose that bit of fauxtography - but of more significance to me was the "Throbbing Memo" - a/k/a Rathergate when Charles exposed the Texas Air National Guard memos used by 60 Minutes/Dan Rather as being total forgeries. To my mind, Charles' discovery and publishing of those forgeries - with the liklihood that Rather knew they were forgeries and with NO DOUBT AT ALL that Rather's producer ......good ole Mary Mapes knew they were forgeries, about 5 weeks before the 2004 elections, helped keep the country from voting for Kerry because of a deliberately placed and published lie about Bush.
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MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 7:42:22am |
re: #508 yma o hyd
He wants some sprinkling of FCBBHO's 'stardust' to fall upon him ...
My mind just cannot grasp refusing to invite Queen Elizabeth.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 7:42:58am |
re: #516 Occasional Reader
Hear, hear.
IIRC most US forces on the peninsula have been redeployed to somewhere south of Seoul over the last several years; so at least they are no longer the "speed bump".
If I were in charge now, I'd tell Kim to keep his weapons down, he doesn't fire and we wont. And I'd keep loitering weapons just outside the area so if any of his artillery or missiles do pop up, they're gone.
Maybe a bit extreme now? Or maybe saving South Korea.
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Eowyn2 Wed, May 27, 2009 7:42:59am |
re: #511 Kenneth
Governor General's "seal meal" sparks controversy
Three cheers for Michaëlle Jean! Damn right I'm a Canadian Neanderthal and proud of it!
hoooraaah. hoooraaah
Can you imagine if Peta had been around during the wild days of Alaska?
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:43:51am |
re: #520 yma o hyd
I've no idea - Gord wasn't invited, originally, and wasn't going to give any support to the veterans who wanted to go - until a huge campaign made him change his mind.
And I don't think that the Queen would need a lot of security - not with all those veterans around her!
I think those men who fought in the war have a thousand times more standing to attend the event than any head of state.
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:43:57am |
re: #506 MandyManners
I hope the Palace finds a creative way to tear a strip off of Sarkozy.
I'm sure they will - the Fwench may think they're sooo clued-up about diplomacy and all, but as for freezing someone out with the most perfect politeness, there's just nobody like a Brit!
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 7:44:06am |
re: #523 Ward Cleaver
Maybe they're freaked out by the idea of the WAB huggin' on her again.
Plus, she's afraid they'll gift her with a Singing Big Mouth Billy Bass this time 'round.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:44:17am |
re: #522 lawhawk
Thanks LH, hey do you agree with six's 475? Is this % thing all BS ...
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lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 7:44:29am |
re: #514 taxfreekiller
At least in NYC, prices are still 75% higher than they were in 2000, which means that the price adjustments will continue. Also, the declines in prices are a good thing for those with good credit and looking to buy since homes in those hardest hit markets are now more affordable without any further government intervention (such as foreclosure relief) which will further distort the markets and increase the prices of those homes as a sop to existing homeowners, without regard to the larger damage done to the market.
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realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:44:40am |
re: #490 vxbush
What an excellent idea ole Migraine head! I'm sorry you're under the weather again - perhaps more chocolate would help that headache (realwest extends a two pound box towards vxbush and almost loses his arm! LOL!).
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Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 7:45:04am |
re: #416 yma o hyd
That really is appalling behavior from Sarkowzy.
A French government source said: 'There were never any plans to invite members of the British Royal Family, although an invitation has been extended to Gordon Brown after he said he wanted to come.
'He will, of course, be concentrating on the British commemorations, away from the American beaches, as is appropriate. This is very much a Franco-American occasion.' Presidents Obama and Sarkozy will attend the main international events at St Mere Eglise - the first town liberated by U.S. paratroopers - and Utah Beach, one of the two American landing sites.
France's equivalent of BBC1 plans blanket coverage in a day-long programme called "Barack Obama On The Invasion Beaches."
Oh, brother! Obama's going to start believing he was in D-Day too!
| 536 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 7:45:36am |
re: #503 turn
[Link: www.biofreeze.com...]
I loooooove that stuff (the roll-on version, that is). June usually buys it from her chiropractor.
| 538 |
vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:46:32am |
re: #534 realwest
What an excellent idea ole Migraine head! I'm sorry you're under the weather again - perhaps more chocolate would help that headache (realwest extends a two pound box towards vxbush and almost loses his arm! LOL!).
I think, for once, I should probably avoid chocolate; at least for today.
| 539 |
Bloodnok Wed, May 27, 2009 7:47:01am |
re: #526 MandyManners
My mind just cannot grasp refusing to invite Queen Elizabeth.
Unbelievable. I would hope that a sitting President would notice this and insist (privately or publicly) that she be invited, but I'm not holding my breath and the damage is done already anyway.
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 7:47:15am |
re: #533 lawhawk
At least in NYC, prices are still 75% higher than they were in 2000, which means that the price adjustments will continue. Also, the declines in prices are a good thing for those with good credit and looking to buy since homes in those hardest hit markets are now more affordable without any further government intervention (such as foreclosure relief) which will further distort the markets and increase the prices of those homes as a sop to existing homeowners, without regard to the larger damage done to the market.
Yep. I still can't buy the argument that re-inflating the housing bubble is the key to recovery. It's just asset inflation; and inflation is always a lousy way to "stimulate" the economy.
| 541 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:47:21am |
re: #525 realwest
Yes indeed, Charles did expose that bit of fauxtography - but of more significance to me was the "Throbbing Memo" - a/k/a Rathergate when Charles exposed the Texas Air National Guard memos used by 60 Minutes/Dan Rather as being total forgeries. To my mind, Charles' discovery and publishing of those forgeries - with the liklihood that Rather knew they were forgeries and with NO DOUBT AT ALL that Rather's producer ......good ole Mary Mapes knew they were forgeries, about 5 weeks before the 2004 elections, helped keep the country from voting for Kerry because of a deliberately placed and published lie about Bush.
Thanks. No doubt in my mind either, he kept an election from being tipped - thanks Charles. Hey, wasn't it Mapes who leaked the abu ghraib photos? I don't like that beotch one bit.
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FrogMarch Wed, May 27, 2009 7:47:38am |
re: #446 CommonCents
If there were an insurgency like that in the U.S. do you think the people would just cower and say "okay mr. bomber, we'll do whatever you want. Please subjugate us." I would expect the populace would open the gun cabinet and get busy.
I would hope that we would fight.
Pakistan is a very poor country. The people don't have guns; they barley have enough to eat. The Taliban come in and take what little these small agricultural towns have, and destroy the schools. Education is the only glimmer of hope these people have.
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:47:49am |
re: #541 turn
Thanks. No doubt in my mind either, he kept an election from being tipped - thanks Charles. Hey, wasn't it Mapes who leaked the abu ghraib photos? I don't like that beotch one bit.
Was it? I didn't think so.....
| 544 |
realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:48:10am |
re: #515 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - yes but you usually say things more, ah, colorfully than he did! LOL!
Good morning to you!
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Eowyn2 Wed, May 27, 2009 7:48:24am |
re: #516 Occasional Reader
The marines would all rather be in Iraq or Afghanistan than in Seoul or on the 38th. There are still quite a few marines on the 38th. My kid was almost stationed there a few years ago. He said from what he has seen and been lectured on, The Kim is completely psycho.
Will China rein him in?
You know it's got to be rough when people dream of escaping TO China.
| 546 |
Flounder Wed, May 27, 2009 7:48:29am |
Damn, I love Bogs! where else could Ihave gotten such a spiffy screen name! Good morning lizards, I haven't wrote anything in a while, this was one that interested me, (simple minds simple pleasues)
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:48:34am |
re: #526 MandyManners
My mind just cannot grasp refusing to invite Queen Elizabeth.
No - and what makes it worse, for Gord, is that he did nothing to make the French chagne their minds.
On top of all the trouble he's in, that will not be forgotten by any of the veterans and still serving members of the Armed Forces, come the General Elections.
| 548 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 7:49:00am |
re: #535 Kenneth
That really is appalling behavior from Sarkowzy.
Oh, brother! Obama's going to start believing he was in D-Day too!
D-Day... isn't that when we teamed up with the French and kicked Hizballah out of Normandy?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 7:49:51am |
There is a growing tendency to think of man as a rational thinking being, which is absurd. There is simply no evidence of any intelligence on the earth.
Ain't that the truth.
/Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here.
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:49:52am |
re: #547 yma o hyd
No - and what makes it worse, for Gord, is that he did nothing to make the French chagne their minds.
On top of all the trouble he's in, that will not be forgotten by any of the veterans and still serving members of the Armed Forces, come the General Elections.
I hope you're right.
| 551 |
Russkilitlover Wed, May 27, 2009 7:50:22am |
re: #460 Ward Cleaver
That pisses me off, too. She should just crash the party, IMNSHO.
Or storm the beaches.
| 552 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, May 27, 2009 7:50:25am |
re: #531 Occasional Reader
Plus, she's afraid they'll gift her with a Singing Big Mouth Billy Bass this time 'round.
I thought they gave her the deluxe 30th Anniversary edition of Queen's Night at The Opera?
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 7:50:48am |
re: #545 Eowyn2
Will China rein him in?
I'm really starting to doubt they can any more. It's like they've had this vicious junkyard dog on a chain for a long time, useful for frightening the neighbors... but now the chain is broken, and the dog is rabid.
| 554 |
realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:51:00am |
re: #533 lawhawk Hey my friend - do you have a link for that 75% still higher than 2000? What about 2005?
| 555 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:51:01am |
re: #537 lawhawk
I'd say so.
ok, I'm going to drop this % thing. She's qualified but I still fear she is a closet liberal instead of a moderate.
| 556 |
vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:51:09am |
re: #552 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I thought they gave her the deluxe 30th Anniversary edition of Queen's Night at The Opera?
Somehow I can't picture Queen E listening to that on her iPod.......
| 557 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:51:20am |
re: #529 vxbush
I think those men who fought in the war have a thousand times more standing to attend the event than any head of state.
Absolutely - this is about them, about those who fought and died, not about present-day politicos.
The French people, as always, will welcome the Brits, the Americans and Canadians with open arms - free drinks all round in all the villages and towns.
And what is even more galling is that the Queen is now 83 years old - ok, she's tough, but who will still be around in five years' time?
| 558 |
lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 7:51:31am |
re: #540 Occasional Reader
Speaking of asset inflation, here's one area that the government would love to inflate - if only to avoid a massive collapse and rebellion by those in the system.
The government pension systems around the nation are severely underfunded, and it's only gotten worse in the recession. New Jersey's solution? Reduce funding further for the pension plans, and call on the localities to do the same. Asinine doesn't begin to cover it. Fiscally irresponsible doesn't quite reflect the severity of the problem.
Financial disaster is about right.
| 559 |
Flounder Wed, May 27, 2009 7:51:44am |
Charles, Drudge has an article on a new country wide VAT tax proposal, any thoughts? I think it will not be implemented totally, just in little pieces, like tax the rich crap.I personally will turn my property into a gentleman's farm, to more PS 3 games for the kids, (and me), and live off the land.
| 560 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 7:51:54am |
re: #539 Bloodnok
Unbelievable. I would hope that a sitting President would notice this and insist (privately or publicly) that she be invited, but I'm not holding my breath and the damage is done already anyway.
I wouldn't be surprised if FCBBHO's people were the ones behind this in the first place.
| 561 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:52:08am |
re: #536 Ward Cleaver
I loooooove that stuff (the roll-on version, that is). June usually buys it from her chiropractor.
Morning ward. My neighbor turned me on to it, the stuff works good for joint or muscle pain.
| 562 |
vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:52:56am |
re: #557 yma o hyd
Absolutely - this is about them, about those who fought and died, not about present-day politicos.
The French people, as always, will welcome the Brits, the Americans and Canadians with open arms - free drinks all round in all the villages and towns.
And what is even more galling is that the Queen is now 83 years old - ok, she's tough, but who will still be around in five years' time?
I have seriously wondered about that. She seems to be in pretty good health, but there will come a day when she will pass--and I honestly wonder if Prince Charles is really up for the task. I realize he doesn't have any real power, but he can set a tone and set up specific charities and concepts as noteworthy. And his decision making skills (i.e. environmental causes) leaves something to be desired.
| 563 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 7:53:08am |
re: #542 FrogMarch
Pakistan is essentially a feudal society. Think of what Europe was like during the middle ages when warlords fought and the people suffered. Same deal, only now the warlards have AK-47 & RPGs while the biggest warlord, the army, has nukes.
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:53:25am |
re: #535 Kenneth
That really is appalling behavior from Sarkowzy.
Oh, brother! Obama's going to start believing he was in D-Day too!
Well - he's probably watched 'Saving Private Ryan', so he can speak 'from experience' ...
And note well - not one word about the Canadians, who, iirc, did play some role in the invasion, didn't they ...
| 566 |
Bloodnok Wed, May 27, 2009 7:53:34am |
re: #560 MandyManners
I wouldn't be surprised if FCBBHO's people were the ones behind this in the first place.
I can clearly see the US making this diplomatic mistake, but the French?
Strange days indeed.
| 567 |
badger1970 Wed, May 27, 2009 7:53:50am |
re: #487 yma o hyd
It's a shame really, considering that the Royal Family did not run to the country when the bombs began to fall. They stood tight giving the British a steel resolve. What did the French do, outside of some resistance, cave in to become the infamous Vichy government
| 568 |
KenJen Wed, May 27, 2009 7:54:17am |
re: #560 MandyManners
I wouldn't be surprised if FCBBHO's people were the ones behind this in the first place.
That's what I was thinking. He and the wife don't want to be upstaged.
| 569 |
vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:54:30am |
re: #561 turn
Morning ward. My neighbor turned me on to it, the stuff works good for joint or muscle pain.
I don't suppose rolling it over my entire head would work, though.
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MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 7:55:00am |
re: #547 yma o hyd
No - and what makes it worse, for Gord, is that he did nothing to make the French chagne their minds.
On top of all the trouble he's in, that will not be forgotten by any of the veterans and still serving members of the Armed Forces, come the General Elections.
He might be a weenie about some things but, I cannot imagine Blair going along with this if he were PM.
Churchill must be spinning.
| 571 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 7:55:03am |
re: #559 Shropshire_Slasher
I took a brief look at that one earlier. There are always a lot of proposals and ideas floating around. I think this one is pretty unlikely.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 7:55:48am |
re: #564 turn
it was a 60 minutes story and an article by Seymore Hersh, don't think Mapes was with 60 minutes at that time. wait it was 2004 so maybe
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 573 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 7:56:07am |
So who's looking for a 5300 sq ft, $2.3m house in Highland Park, Illinois? Bueller? Anyone?
And no, the Ferrari wasn't a real Ferrari, but a fiberglass-bodied replica based on an MG, and commissioned for the movie.
| 574 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 7:56:37am |
re: #566 Bloodnok
I can clearly see the US making this diplomatic mistake, but the French?
Strange days indeed.
This is not a mistake. This is a deliberate slap in the face of one of the saviors of France and the rest of Europe.
| 575 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 7:56:41am |
re: #561 turn
Morning ward. My neighbor turned me on to it, the stuff works good for joint or muscle pain.
I use it somewhat regularly, mostly for back pain.
| 576 |
realwest Wed, May 27, 2009 7:57:05am |
Well y'all it's been grand but I gotta run - chores and all that.
Hope you all have a GREAT day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
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MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 7:57:13am |
re: #568 KenJen
That's what I was thinking. He and the wife don't want to be upstaged.
Sarkozy should have told them to pound sand.
| 578 |
ConservatismNow! Wed, May 27, 2009 7:57:52am |
re: #573 Ward Cleaver
There were Ferrari lovers who were up in arms because they thought John Hughes really did wreck that car for the movie.
| 579 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:58:01am |
re: #562 vxbush
I have seriously wondered about that. She seems to be in pretty good health, but there will come a day when she will pass--and I honestly wonder if Prince Charles is really up for the task. I realize he doesn't have any real power, but he can set a tone and set up specific charities and concepts as noteworthy. And his decision making skills (i.e. environmental causes) leaves something to be desired.
Agree - but at least he did serve in the Armed Forces, as did his younger brother, Prince Andrew (who was in the force that fought the Argies over the Falkland Islands, flying a Seaking helicopter), and as his two sons are doing right now. So he's got an understanding of what this means for the veterans.
| 580 |
Lincolntf Wed, May 27, 2009 7:59:07am |
re: #573 Ward Cleaver
That house is great. I always thought it was a Frank Lloyd Wright house until I went on a tour of a few of the homes he built and asked the tour guide. Oh well, whoever the architect was, he did a great job.
| 581 |
vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 7:59:08am |
re: #579 yma o hyd
Agree - but at least he did serve in the Armed Forces, as did his younger brother, Prince Andrew (who was in the force that fought the Argies over the Falkland Islands, flying a Seaking helicopter), and as his two sons are doing right now. So he's got an understanding of what this means for the veterans.
True. I had forgotten about that, and I do respect them for their service and attempting to avoid getting the "royal" treatment while serving. But I still wonder about his priorities at times.
| 582 |
ConservatismNow! Wed, May 27, 2009 7:59:24am |
re: #579 yma o hyd
I hope I live to see the day that William takes over the throne. He's going to make a great king some day.
| 583 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 7:59:35am |
re: #565 yma o hyd
Yes, the Canadians landed at Juno Beach. This truly is an insult from the French that they won't invite our Queen. That little twerp Sarkowzy should be aware there would not be a France were it not for Great Britain & the Commonwealth countries.
| 584 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 7:59:37am |
Grand Theft Jihad.....
Hamza's sons admit £1m car fraud
Three sons of jailed cleric Abu Hamza have admitted exploiting a loophole in the vehicle registration system to carry out a £1m luxury car scam.
His sons Hamza Kamel, 22, and Mohamed Mostafa, 27, ran the two-year fraud with his stepson Mohssin Ghailam, 28.
Southwark Crown Court heard they targeted cars in long-stay car parks, fraudulently obtaining their log books and keys before selling the cars on.
| 585 |
opnion Wed, May 27, 2009 7:59:43am |
Good morning all. THe Republicans are really between a rock & a hard place on the Sonia Sotomayor nomination, she is a Latina & not considered too over the top.
Disturbing though she was one of three on a appealate panel ruling against the White & one Latino firefighters who scored high on a promotion exam in which African Americans did poorly. She ruled to throw out the exam, because it did not achieve the desired result.
| 586 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 7:59:47am |
re: #567 badger1970
It's a shame really, considering that the Royal Family did not run to the country when the bombs began to fall. They stood tight giving the British a steel resolve. What did the French do, outside of some resistance, cave in to become the infamous Vichy government
Perhaps thats one of the reasons ... the French still haven't come to terms with that part of their history.
| 587 |
redstateredneck Wed, May 27, 2009 8:00:11am |
re: #538 vxbush
I think, for once, I should probably avoid chocolate; at least for today.
OMG! Someone has hijacked vxbush's nic. Security breach! ! !
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:00:24am |
re: #579 yma o hyd
(who was in the force that fought the Argies over the Falkland Islands
You mean the Islas Malvinas, which are being ruthlessly occupied by the British invaders!
//
| 589 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:00:46am |
re: #578 ConservatismNow!
There were Ferrari lovers who were up in arms because they thought John Hughes really did wreck that car for the movie.
The company that built it was sued by Ferrari for putting the prancing horse emblems on it, and went out of business.
| 590 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:00:51am |
re: #569 vxbush
I don't suppose rolling it over my entire head would work, though.
ha not recommended, however I've heard those migraines are so bad people would do almost anything to try and get rid of them. What about that chiropractor suggestion right had, ever try that?
| 591 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:01:22am |
re: #583 Kenneth
Yes, the Canadians landed at Juno Beach.
Juno? Well, that's why you guys aren't invited; you idiots invaded Alaska by mistake!
| 593 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:01:44am |
re: #570 MandyManners
He might be a weenie about some things but, I cannot imagine Blair going along with this if he were PM.
Churchill must be spinning.
Yep - to both points.
Mind - Tony Bliar being very good at getting central stage, FCBBHO would probably have declined to come - for fear of being overshadowed by all those pesky Brits.
| 594 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:02:20am |
re: #591 Occasional Reader
Juno? Well, that's why you guys aren't invited; you idiots invaded Alaska by mistake!
No, you mean they invaded the free email service.
/that juno
| 595 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:02:47am |
re: #589 Ward Cleaver
The company that built it was sued by Ferrari for putting the prancing horse emblems on it, and went out of business.
How petty. Yes, they may have "had to" sue in order to defend the trademark, but they could have simply asked for a token award. After all, the movie was free advertising for Ferrari.
| 596 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:03:08am |
re: #591 Occasional Reader
Juno? Well, that's why you guys aren't invited; you idiots invaded Alaska by mistake!
You know, you can see Germany from Alaska too!
| 597 |
Russkilitlover Wed, May 27, 2009 8:03:20am |
re: #560 MandyManners
I wouldn't be surprised if FCBBHO's people were the ones behind this in the first place.
That was my thought. He and WAB bungled their first meeting with her and her excrutiating politeness only embarassed him further (if that's possible). A simple call to Sarkozy - "Keep that beotch outta my limelight" - probably did the trick.
| 598 |
Lincolntf Wed, May 27, 2009 8:03:54am |
re: #593 yma o hyd
Speaking of pesky Brits, my wife is headed over to London (and Bristol, I think) next week. If you see a tall blonde woman with an armful of books looking like she's lost, be a dear and help her out.
| 599 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:04:18am |
re: #574 MandyManners
This is not a mistake. This is a deliberate slap in the face of one of the saviors of France and the rest of Europe.
Another thing I find interesting is that apparently there is no official Canadian participation, nor any murmur from that government?
Do the Canadian lizards have any information?
After all - they fought together with the Brits on those beaches!
| 600 |
vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 8:04:26am |
re: #587 redstateredneck
OMG! Someone has hijacked vxbush's nic. Security breach! ! !
It's just for today, honest! And who knows, maybe later when I feel better I might sneak just one Hershey's Kiss in....
| 601 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:04:31am |
re: #580 Lincolntf
That house is great. I always thought it was a Frank Lloyd Wright house until I went on a tour of a few of the homes he built and asked the tour guide. Oh well, whoever the architect was, he did a great job.
Yeah, I like those kind of houses. A house like that has to be back in the trees, since they don't look right with drapes covering the glass.
/so people on the street don't see you running around nekkid
| 602 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, May 27, 2009 8:04:42am |
re: #578 ConservatismNow!
There were Ferrari lovers who were up in arms because they thought John Hughes really did wreck that car for the movie.
In the otherwise forgettable film The War of The Roses, a real classic car, I forget the type, one of only a few in existence, was destroyed.
| 603 |
FrogMarch Wed, May 27, 2009 8:04:42am |
re: #563 Kenneth
Pakistan is essentially a feudal society. Think of what Europe was like during the middle ages when warlords fought and the people suffered. Same deal, only now the warlards have AK-47 & RPGs while the biggest warlord, the army, has nukes.
The PBS documentary showed that that majority of people living in these poor small towns do not what the Taliban. They just want to raise their children, educate their children and hope for a better peaceful life. When the Taliban show up, they are forced to submit. One of the towns had a "bloody square" where people who defied the Taliban were slaughtered by having their heads sawed off in public. The Taliban realize the best way to increase their numbers is to scare the adults and propagandize the young boys. They starve the towns of food and education and then fill the void.
| 604 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:04:53am |
re: #594 Ward Cleaver
No, you mean they invaded the free email service.
/that juno
Or they got that wisecracking teenage girl pregnant?
/that Juno
| 605 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:06:20am |
re: #581 vxbush
True. I had forgotten about that, and I do respect them for their service and attempting to avoid getting the "royal" treatment while serving. But I still wonder about his priorities at times.
Thing is - he can be more woolly and/or controversial while still being Prince of Wales. Once he's King, there's nothing he can do, at all!
| 606 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:06:36am |
re: #603 FrogMarch
One of the towns had a "bloody square" where people who defied the Taliban were slaughtered by having their heads sawed off in public. The Taliban realize the best way to increase their numbers is to scare the adults and propagandize the young boys. They starve the towns of food and education and then fill the void.
Clearly, we need to offer an outstretched hand of friendship to the Taliban, in order to increase the global supply of niceness.
/
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vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 8:06:39am |
re: #590 turn
ha not recommended, however I've heard those migraines are so bad people would do almost anything to try and get rid of them. What about that chiropractor suggestion right had, ever try that?
No, for two reasons:
1. I really love and prefer physical therapists. I've worked with so many with my son's therapies over the years that i have come to respect them a great deal. I know what my problems are and I know what exercises to perform to counteract it.
2. We have solid physical evidence that I have hormonal problems that I really don't need to get into here; but I'll repeat, we tweaked my meds last month and i've had far fewer migraines this month. I go back to the doc in June to discuss if further tweaking is necessary.
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lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 8:06:42am |
re: #554 realwest
Indeed I do - the rate is actually 73.9% in NYC:
New York and Detroit, which both showed large monthly declines in March, show the different legacies of the boom. Prices in New York are still up 73.4 percent from January 2000, while those in Detroit are 29 percent lower. A Detroit house costs about the same today as it did 14 years ago.Las Vegas joined Phoenix in showing a decline from the area’s peak of more than 50 percent. Dallas, which never had much of a housing boom, is the best-performing city in the index, down 11.1 percent from its peak.
The national Case-Shiller index for the first quarter, also released Tuesday, showed a 19.1 percent decline compared with the first quarter of 2008, the biggest drop in the index’s 21-year history.
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:07:18am |
re: #583 Kenneth
Yes, the Canadians landed at Juno Beach. This truly is an insult from the French that they won't invite our Queen. That little twerp Sarkowzy should be aware there would not be a France were it not for Great Britain & the Commonwealth countries.
Just so!
And I hope the Canadian press will pick up on this!
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 8:07:41am |
re: #573 Ward Cleaver
So who's looking for a 5300 sq ft, $2.3m house in Highland Park, Illinois? Bueller? Anyone?
And no, the Ferrari wasn't a real Ferrari, but a fiberglass-bodied replica based on an MG, and commissioned for the movie.
Oh yeah.
It is is fault he didn't lock the garage.
| 613 |
J.S. Wed, May 27, 2009 8:07:51am |
re: #599 yma o hyd
The Harper government is currently preoccupied with cozying up to Fatah leader Abbas and making exclamations about Israel's "illegal settlements". And not a peep about firing rockets into Israel so as to murder Israelis -- after all, Israeli farmers setting up a chicken coop are so much more "dangerous." That's the Harper government's "priorities."
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ConservatismNow! Wed, May 27, 2009 8:08:15am |
re: #609 Iron Fist
And her ruling in the Ricci case. Way way off base.
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Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:08:29am |
Here's a short film clip of the first wave of Canadians landing at Juno Beach:
Keep in mind, half the men you see jumping off the end of that landing craft will be dead withing an hour.
To hell with Sarkowzy and Obama. Egotistical jerks.
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:08:47am |
re: #588 Occasional Reader
You mean the Islas Malvinas, which are being ruthlessly occupied by the British invaders!
//
Yep - they're ours! And the Falklanders have stated time and time again that they're British ...
:-)))
| 618 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 8:10:21am |
I wish the British and Canadian vets would make a huge deal about this.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:10:24am |
re: #602 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
In the otherwise forgettable film The War of The Roses, a real classic car, I forget the type, one of only a few in existence, was destroyed.
According to the IMDb, it was a 1960 Morgan 4/4 that Kathleen Turner ran over with her Blazer:
The car that Oliver owns in the movie is a 1960 Morgan Roadster (known to collectors as a Morgan 4/4). The car was really crushed in the film and was purchased by a man named Bill Caruso of Hartford, CT, who restored it with the intention of racing it at Limerock (Lime Rock - Ed.) Park, however he died before he could. It was purchased by auto enthusiast Wayne Carini for his show "Chasing Classic Cars".
| 620 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:10:25am |
re: #598 Lincolntf
Speaking of pesky Brits, my wife is headed over to London (and Bristol, I think) next week. If you see a tall blonde woman with an armful of books looking like she's lost, be a dear and help her out.
No problem!
(I bet the queue to help her out is already forming, seeing that she's a tall blonde!)
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lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 8:10:49am |
re: #555 turn
I don't think she's a closet liberal. Sotomayor is a liberal. Is she in the Ginsberg/Stevens range or towards Kennedy? That remains to be seen.
Keep in mind as well that she's replacing a liberal on the court in Souter. Watch for the discussion to turn on where on the ideological spectrum she falls as compared to Souter, Kennedy, and Ginsberg.
Conservatives will do what they can to claim she's to the left of Ginsberg, Obama and the left will claim she's a moderate.
| 622 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:10:54am |
re: #609 Iron Fist
Her remarks on the Second Amendment rais questions about her impartiality as a judge. She sounds like she has already pre-judged any Second Amendment case that she would hear. That is unaceptible in a Supreme Court nominee. I hope the Republicans make a note of this, and grill her hard on the issue.
But I'm not going to hold my breath. They let Holder by without so much as a grunt of disaproval.
They will give her a mandatory grilling and then confirm her no doubt. It could have been worse IMO.
| 623 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:12:19am |
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:12:20am |
re: #615 Kenneth
Keep in mind, half the men you see jumping off the end of that landing craft will be dead withing an hour.
IIRC both Juno and Omaha had roughly 50 percent casualty rates, not KIA... bad enough, of course.
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:12:29am |
re: #613 J.S.
The Harper government is currently preoccupied with cozying up to Fatah leader Abbas and making exclamations about Israel's "illegal settlements". And not a peep about firing rockets into Israel so as to murder Israelis -- after all, Israeli farmers setting up a chicken coop are so much more "dangerous." That's the Harper government's "priorities."
Gah!
So Fatah trumps Canadian veterans and servicemen, even on June 6th?
Gah!
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MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 8:12:46am |
re: #619 Ward Cleaver
I'll never forget the pate scene or the scene when he peed in the soup.
| 627 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 8:14:06am |
re: #621 lawhawk
I don't think she's a closet liberal. Sotomayor is a liberal. Is she in the Ginsberg/Stevens range or towards Kennedy? That remains to be seen.
Keep in mind as well that she's replacing a liberal on the court in Souter. Watch for the discussion to turn on where on the ideological spectrum she falls as compared to Souter, Kennedy, and Ginsberg.
Conservatives will do what they can to claim she's to the left of Ginsberg, Obama and the left will claim she's a moderate.
While she's probably not a moderate, I also find it hard to believe she's to the left of Ginsberg. There's few to the left of Ginsberg, and two of them are buried in Russia.
I would suspect Souter is being replaced with another Souter.
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:14:29am |
re: #616 yma o hyd
Yep - they're ours! And the Falklanders have stated time and time again that they're British ...
:-)))
Screw the Falklanders! They're just imperialistic invaders! The ones whose opinions really matter are the penguins... and they're 100% Argentinian!
/you have no idea how the Argentinians get about this... regardless of where any one in particular falls on the political spectrum... there's no reasoning with them!
| 630 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:15:38am |
re: #621 lawhawk
Chuck Schumer on Hardball actually did a convincing job on me last night then, he was touting her as a moderate. Thanks LH
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:16:29am |
re: #618 MandyManners
I wish the British and Canadian vets would make a huge deal about this.
Its a different generation - they are over 80 years old, most of them. They don't make a fuss.
If the MFM don't wade in on their side, nobody will give a toss.
| 632 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:16:55am |
re: #626 MandyManners
I'll never forget the pate scene or the scene when he peed in the soup.
What about wooof? That was a good scene.
| 633 |
J.S. Wed, May 27, 2009 8:17:01am |
re: #621 lawhawk
Jeffrey Toobin on CNN the other day noted that because Sonia Sotomayor comes from that Second Circuit, she's only handled cases from Vermont, Connecticut, and New York...and, as Toobin noted, there are certain issues that have never been addressed. So, for example, no one knows what her opinions would be in a death penalty case (since Vermont, Connecticut, New York don't have the death penalty).
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MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 8:18:24am |
re: #631 yma o hyd
Its a different generation - they are over 80 years old, most of them. They don't make a fuss.
If the MFM don't wade in on their side, nobody will give a toss.
Most will never even hear about this.
| 636 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 8:18:42am |
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yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:18:50am |
re: #623 Kenneth
Canada is participating, as is the UK. The insult is that our Queen has not been invited.
Yep - its the Vets' organistions who have collected funding and are getting all who can over there, probably for the last time for far too many.
I hope some of the Canadian MFM will pick up on that and raise hell as well.
| 638 |
J.S. Wed, May 27, 2009 8:19:34am |
re: #625 yma o hyd
Well, maybe not on June 6...maybe the government's "priorities" will change by then (then again, I'm not holding my breath). (there's been some talk about how the Liberals might challenge the government -- we could soon be getting into "election mode"...again...)
| 639 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:19:36am |
re: #628 Occasional Reader
Screw the Falklanders! They're just imperialistic invaders! The ones whose opinions really matter are the penguins... and they're 100% Argentinian!
/you have no idea how the Argentinians get about this... regardless of where any one in particular falls on the political spectrum... there's no reasoning with them!
The sheep there are British, though!
| 642 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 8:21:24am |
Light at the end of the tunnel?
U.S. Recession May Soon End, Business Economists Say
The U.S. recession will probably end in the third quarter, a survey of business economists showed, even as rising joblessness indicates the recovery will be weaker than previously estimated.
The world’s largest economy will begin to expand next quarter, according to 74 percent of economists in a National Association for Business Economics survey. Compared with NABE’s February poll, growth will be slower and unemployment will be higher in the second half of this year and through 2010.
Government stimulus spending and Federal Reserve efforts to thaw credit markets are helping pull the economy out of the worst slump in half a century, the survey said. While housing is stabilizing, the economists predicted consumer spending will be restrained by a deteriorating labor market as job losses continue for the rest of the year.
| 643 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:21:50am |
re: #610 yma o hyd
Just so!
And I hope the Canadian press will pick up on this!
Sadly, most of the Canadian press will be busy drooling over the Obama on Omaha Spectacular.
The Juno Beach Centre has the agenda of Canadian events commemorating Juno. There are similar events for the UK.
As you pointed out, the problem is the perverse decision not to invite the Queen. And the only reason I can think of that is that she might upstage the twin egos of Obama and Sarko. Sarko sees a good photo-op for him alongside Obama. he doesn't want to have to waste his time chit-chatting with an old lady.
| 644 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 8:22:02am |
re: #634 MandyManners
Most will never even hear about this.
Its sad how the iPod generation loses all conenctions to the history of their country and their people - living history, at that.
I wonder what the current men and women serving in our armed Forces think of this. Will the understand that most of their country just pays lip service to their sacrifices?
Sad.
| 645 |
Russkilitlover Wed, May 27, 2009 8:23:14am |
Russia Taking the Lead in NoK/SoK Tensions?
Medvedev told South Korean President Lee Myung-bak, who called him on Wednesday, that Russia was prepared to work with Seoul on a new U.N. Security Council resolution and to revive international talks on the North Korean nuclear issue.
"The heads of state noted that the nuclear test conducted by North Korea on Monday is a direct violation of a U.N. Security Council resolution and impedes international law," a Kremlin press release said.
Secretary Clinton is nowhere to be found.
President Obama is primping for his D-Day gig.
Russia is stepping into world leader void.
| 647 |
vxbush Wed, May 27, 2009 8:24:07am |
re: #645 Russkilitlover
Russia Taking the Lead in NoK/SoK Tensions?
Secretary Clinton is nowhere to be found.
President Obama is primping for his D-Day gig.
Russia is stepping into world leader void.
Interesting turn of events.
| 648 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:24:41am |
re: #624 Occasional Reader
Over all casualty rates for the whole operation were 50% and KIA was less than that. But the first wave the assault had damn higher KIA rates. That was what I was referring to.
| 649 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 8:24:45am |
Edinburgh Money Managers Forecast ‘Volatile’ Recovery
Any recovery is good recovery.
| 650 |
opnion Wed, May 27, 2009 8:25:39am |
re: #603 FrogMarch
The PBS documentary showed that that majority of people living in these poor small towns do not what the Taliban. They just want to raise their children, educate their children and hope for a better peaceful life. When the Taliban show up, they are forced to submit. One of the towns had a "bloody square" where people who defied the Taliban were slaughtered by having their heads sawed off in public. The Taliban realize the best way to increase their numbers is to scare the adults and propagandize the young boys. They starve the towns of food and education and then fill the void.
Ok , it does look bad, you know sawing off heads & all.
But BHO willl be able to identify the "Moderate" Taliban head choppers & unclench their fists, just because they will be taken with his fabulousness.
| 651 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, May 27, 2009 8:26:13am |
re: #642 Killgore Trout
Light at the end of the tunnel?
U.S. Recession May Soon End, Business Economists Say
And the job market will still be depressed, so this is an improvement? How can that be? Where is all those jobs Obama promise to create, or save, or make believe they exist or what ever spin the administration is putting on jobs this week?
This is a sham. Yep, the economy is going to do better for banks that got tons of money from the government, business' that got tons of money from the government and projects that are going to get money from the government.
But, where is the benefit to people who actually need work, want work and are qualified to work.
Whoops, did we forget about them?
Bullshit report, bullshit information, bullshit recovery.
| 653 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:28:49am |
re: #626 MandyManners
I'll never forget the pate scene or the scene when he peed in the soup.
Fish, wasn't it? "I'm pissing in the fish."
And when he demolished her expensive gas stove.
| 654 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, May 27, 2009 8:30:04am |
Here is the jobs that Obama will be creating...
"In a tiny corner of the Denver Museum of Nature & Science, Biden and his entourage of Cabinet members unveiled plans to spend $500 million to train residents of public housing projects to weatherize homes and launch other new-energy careers."
Hell, I get a little pamphlet in my electric bill every month that teaches me how to do that. They are going to spend 500 million on that sort of training? This is like so much bullshit.
Read all of the wonderful "green collar" plans for all of us peons.
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]
| 655 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:30:21am |
re: #647 vxbush
US diplomatic strategy seems to be to move quietly and draw in allies. It's the right approach, in theory. Whether Obama & Clinton can succeed at it remains to be seen.
In Washington, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke to her Russian counterpart as part of an effort to seek a united response with "consequences" for North Korea. But U.S. officials also stressed that they are still eager for North Korea to return to multilateral disarmament talks and are not ready to declare the multi-year effort to end North Korea's nuclear program a failure.
"We feel the door does still remain open, that we're ready to engage," said State Department spokesman Ian Kelly. He described the Obama administration's effort now as trying to "bring international pressure to bear to get them to reverse their course."
| 656 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 8:30:48am |
Financial news from The Onion....
Nation's Girlfriends Unveil New Economic Plan
| 657 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:30:52am |
re: #635 buzzsawmonkey
One of the saddest things I have seen in recent years was on my visit to Puerto Rico last year. There are any number of nice houses, Florida-style, built in the Fifties-modern fashion, that are basically enclosed in iron cages of bars. All those airy overhangs and open breezeways fenced off and locked down, for fear of home invasions.
Excellent observation, and something I've noticed myself (which is, of course, why I think it's excellent). Same is true practically EVERYWHERE in Latin America. It is expected that your house will be protected by walls, fences, etc. The US idea of open lawns seamlessly connected to each other? Forget it. I can recall my in-laws expressing nervousness at the fact that the ground floor windows and sliding patio door in our place did not have steel bars; this would be unthinkable in [undisclosed country of my wife's origin].
| 658 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 8:30:54am |
re: #640 turn
yep, she got him on that one.
I think the worst I did during the divorce was scrubbing the bathroom with his tooth brush. Or, maybe it was breaking one of his custom-made golf clubs into four pieces and then scattering them around town.
| 659 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 8:30:55am |
A BAD case of beer goggles:
Winthrop man pleads not guilty to hate crime
A Winthrop man has pleaded not guilty to several charges for allegedly yelling anti-gay epithets and assaulting two women in Provincetown.Eric Patten is charged with assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, assault and battery under the state hate crime statute, wanton destruction of property, disorderly conduct, assault and battery on a police officer and resisting arrest.
Bail was set at $1,000 Tuesday in Orleans District Court. Patten also was ordered to stay out of Provincetown.
Police said the 20-year-old approached two women early Saturday, called one an offensive name referring to gay men and pushed one into a cafe window, which broke.
Authorities say Patten was drunk and thought the women were gay men.
Both women were treated at a hospital for minor injuries.
| 660 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:30:58am |
re: #633 J.S.
Jeffrey Toobin on CNN the other day noted that because Sonia Sotomayor comes from that Second Circuit, she's only handled cases from Vermont, Connecticut, and New York...and, as Toobin noted, there are certain issues that have never been addressed. So, for example, no one knows what her opinions would be in a death penalty case (since Vermont, Connecticut, New York don't have the death penalty).
Pretty clever, to pick someone without much of a record. Gee, just like The One himself.
| 661 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:31:36am |
re: #654 Walter L. Newton
Here is the jobs that Obama will be creating...
"In a tiny corner of the Denver Museum of Nature & Science, Biden and his entourage of Cabinet members unveiled plans to spend $500 million to train residents of public housing projects to weatherize homes and launch other new-energy careers."
Hell, I get a little pamphlet in my electric bill every month that teaches me how to do that. They are going to spend 500 million on that sort of training? This is like so much bullshit.
Read all of the wonderful "green collar" plans for all of us peons.
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]
Makework jobs.
| 662 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 8:31:44am |
re: #644 yma o hyd
Its sad how the iPod generation loses all conenctions to the history of their country and their people - living history, at that.
I wonder what the current men and women serving in our armed Forces think of this. Will the understand that most of their country just pays lip service to their sacrifices?Sad.
I won't let The Kid forget.
| 663 |
lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 8:31:57am |
re: #633 J.S.
That's a good point, and expect a line of questions about that and other hot button issues, including gay marriage and abortion.
| 664 |
VegasRick Wed, May 27, 2009 8:32:03am |
re: #645 Russkilitlover
Russia Taking the Lead in NoK/SoK Tensions?
Secretary Clinton is nowhere to be found.
President Obama is primping for his D-Day gig.
Russia is stepping into world leader void.
Biden was spotted at a scranton bar telling everybody the secret launch codes.
| 665 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 8:33:12am |
re: #653 Ward Cleaver
Fish, wasn't it? "I'm pissing in the fish."
And when he demolished her expensive gas stove.
Only one person won in the end.
| 667 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:33:53am |
| 668 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:34:10am |
re: #658 MandyManners
I think the worst I did during the divorce was scrubbing the bathroom with his tooth brush. Or, maybe it was breaking one of his custom-made golf clubs into four pieces and then scattering them around town.
You don't consider the voodoo doll over the top?
| 669 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 8:34:19am |
re: #658 MandyManners
I think the worst I did during the divorce was scrubbing the bathroom with his tooth brush. Or, maybe it was breaking one of his custom-made golf clubs into four pieces and then scattering them around town.
Heh. Either way, you were lenient with him. I came thisclose during mine to puting her crap on the front porch and then calling them to pick it up. As it was the worst thing I did was to get the engagement ring back from her.
| 670 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 8:34:42am |
| 671 |
kansas Wed, May 27, 2009 8:34:58am |
Only 'Whack Jobs' Like Limbaugh Oppose Sotomayor, Matthews Declares
| 672 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 8:35:09am |
re: #666 MandyManners
Attorney.
Irony that you should mention that word and that word only at comment #666. LOL!
| 673 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 8:35:23am |
re: #668 Kenneth
You don't consider the voodoo doll over the top?
With the rail spike in the crotch?
| 674 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:35:26am |
re: #658 MandyManners
I think the worst I did during the divorce was scrubbing the bathroom with his tooth brush. Or, maybe it was breaking one of his custom-made golf clubs into four pieces and then scattering them around town.
I'd hate to see you REALLY pissed off, ha.
| 675 |
Russkilitlover Wed, May 27, 2009 8:36:03am |
re: #666 MandyManners
Attorney.
Heh. The number of your post. The only word in your post. Heh, again.
| 676 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 8:36:06am |
Gotta' go get The Kid off the roof again. bbiab
| 677 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:36:40am |
re: #659 Kosh's Shadow
Authorities say Patten was drunk and thought the women were gay men.
If this clown's intentions were to "bash" gay men in Provincetown, of all places, he's lucky he didn't get his ass thoroughly kicked. Never been there, but I'm told that we of the hetero persuasion are rather outnumbered there.
| 678 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:36:58am |
re: #674 turn
I'm reading this which might be of interest to a few
[Link: www.michaeltotten.com...]
Things have really turned the corner but AQ is a long way from being defeated.
| 679 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 8:37:17am |
re: #677 Occasional Reader
If this clown's intentions were to "bash" gay men in Provincetown, of all places, he's lucky he didn't get his ass thoroughly kicked. Never been there, but I'm told that we of the hetero persuasion are rather outnumbered there.
He must have been very drunk. And stupid.
| 680 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:37:19am |
re: #670 MandyManners
For Danny Davito.
If the lawyer wins, it's a happy ending.
/get it? 'cause I'm a lawyer, see.
| 681 |
Russkilitlover Wed, May 27, 2009 8:37:58am |
re: #672 Honorary Yooper
Irony that you should mention that word and that word only at comment #666. LOL!
Dang! Beat me to it. Hate this crappy work server when LGF gets to around 500 posts. Soooooooooooo slooooooooooooow.
| 682 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, May 27, 2009 8:38:02am |
re: #661 Ward Cleaver
Makework jobs.
You got it. Hell, I worked for the National Renewable Energy Lab in Golden for over 10 years. It's a DOE lab dedicated to renewable energy research, it's been in business for over 35 years. Yes, they have make some wonderful scientific discoveries, yes they have made advancements in wind, solar, biofuels, batteries and more. Yes, there are some of the best scientist and experts in the energy business at the lab.
But if you talk to ANY scientist there, they will tell you, it's still not financially viable. The ONLY way it works is if the government offsets the cost.
It takes three factors to make it work. It has to be renewable, sustainable and financially viable.
The equation is not yet complete. The Obama administration is blowing smoke.
| 683 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:38:48am |
re: #665 MandyManners
Only one person won in the end.
The ending was very sad, but at least they reconciled.
| 684 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:39:29am |
| 685 |
badger1970 Wed, May 27, 2009 8:39:34am |
re: #683 Ward Cleaver
I thought she pushed his hand away?
| 686 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, May 27, 2009 8:39:36am |
re: #682 Walter L. Newton
Correction = over 25 years.
| 687 |
Lincolntf Wed, May 27, 2009 8:39:42am |
re: #659 Kosh's Shadow
P-Town is a trip. When I was a kid, a few of the families with kids on our neck of the Cape would get together and make a day-trip of it. Nothing like a bunch of 8-12 year olds getting an eyeful of huge bodybuilder types making out on the corner or a shaven-headed woman dressed as Little Bo Peep walking a skunk on a leash. (Both are memories that I think of every time someone mentions the place.)
When we were old enough to drive ourselves out there, it was mainly to buy illegal fireworks and those plastic sleeves that you could put over a beer can to make it look like a Coke. Good times.
| 688 |
FrogMarch Wed, May 27, 2009 8:40:06am |
re: #617 buzzsawmonkey
They've found an effective marketing plan.
Here we just overload people with junk food and junk education which makes them one with the void.
so true.
| 689 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:40:44am |
re: #682 Walter L. Newton
These technologies do become viable if the cost of oil goes high enough. Also, there have been some technology advances which lower unit costs. But Obama was an idiot when he pledge to make America get 50% of it's energy from alternative technologies within 10 years. Impossible.
| 690 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, May 27, 2009 8:41:05am |
re: #684 Occasional Reader
A deer lab?
A female deer lab?
Department of Energy, which is a agency of the United States. Foreigners.... sheeessshhh.
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| 691 |
J.S. Wed, May 27, 2009 8:41:25am |
re: #660 Ward Cleaver
I think Obama's been very clever in this choice -- since, in many ways, Sonia Sotomayor's "story" resembles his own story -- she's a Latina from a minority community, she's worked her way up (the "rags to riches" story), she's battled adversity (her illness, her coming from a single-parent family), etc., etc. There's no way the Republicans can go up against this and win (i suspect Obama may be hoping that this will be a re-play of last year's election campaign with Republicans painted as "haters", "racists", [insert derogatory remark here])...
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:41:34am |
re: #671 kansas
Only 'Whack Jobs' Like Limbaugh Oppose Sotomayor, Matthews Declares
I saw that on Hardball last night too, pot meet kettle.
| 693 |
Lincolntf Wed, May 27, 2009 8:43:11am |
re: #692 turn
Everybody knows that everyone who doesn't agree with everything Obama does is a "whackjob".
Only the insane would defy a God.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:43:16am |
re: #691 J.S.
I think Obama's been very clever in this choice -- since, in many ways, Sonia Sotomayor's "story" resembles his own story -- she's a Latina from a minority community, she's worked her way up (the "rags to riches" story), she's battled adversity (her illness, her coming from a single-parent family), etc., etc. There's no way the Republicans can go up against this and win (i suspect Obama may be hoping that this will be a re-play of last year's election campaign with Republicans painted as "haters", "racists", [insert derogatory remark here])...
Yep, that's exactly it. If the Republicans criticize her, they look mean.
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iLikeCandy Wed, May 27, 2009 8:43:38am |
Good morning, all.
I don't know all about him, but Rob Simmons, who currently leads Chris Dodd in polls, looks like a Republican who could win some votes from Connecticut libs. Has he been covered here yet?
[Link: www.ontheissues.org...]
| 696 |
Vicious Babushka Wed, May 27, 2009 8:43:42am |
re: #654 Walter L. Newton
Here is the jobs that Obama will be creating...
"In a tiny corner of the Denver Museum of Nature & Science, Biden and his entourage of Cabinet members unveiled plans to spend $500 million to train residents of public housing projects to weatherize homes and launch other new-energy careers."
Hell, I get a little pamphlet in my electric bill every month that teaches me how to do that. They are going to spend 500 million on that sort of training? This is like so much bullshit.
Read all of the wonderful "green collar" plans for all of us peons.
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]
Yesterday I thought how cool it would be to get one of those "green jobs" they're all raving about. So I went to [Link: www.greenjobs.com...] to see if they had any listings in my area. Well guess what! It is all a scam. All the job listing are the same listing that you would see on Monster or Careerbuilder except the word environmental is bolded is the position includes anything "environment" related, such as learning how to operate a fire extinguisher in the workplace.
| 697 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 8:44:25am |
re: #693 Lincolntf
Everybody knows that everyone who doesn't agree with everything Obama does is a "whackjob".
Only the insane would defy a God.
Matthews must still have that tingle up his leg.
| 698 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:44:32am |
re: #691 J.S.
Sonia Sotomayor's "story" resembles his own story -- she's a Latina from a minority community, she's worked her way up (the "rags to riches" story), she's battled adversity (her illness, her coming from a single-parent family), etc., etc.
And of course the O Administration keep harping on this "story", and seem rather uninterested in discussing any of that boring judge stuff. She had a tough life... therefore, she should be on the Supreme Court! QED!
| 699 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 8:44:56am |
re: #682 Walter L. Newton
You got it. Hell, I worked for the National Renewable Energy Lab in Golden for over 10 years. It's a DOE lab dedicated to renewable energy research, it's been in business for over 35 years. Yes, they have make some wonderful scientific discoveries, yes they have made advancements in wind, solar, biofuels, batteries and more. Yes, there are some of the best scientist and experts in the energy business at the lab.
But if you talk to ANY scientist there, they will tell you, it's still not financially viable. The ONLY way it works is if the government offsets the cost.
It takes three factors to make it work. It has to be renewable, sustainable and financially viable.
The equation is not yet complete. The Obama administration is blowing smoke.
I can't find the link now, but about a month ago, some Israelis announced the first solar farm that didn't need subsidies. It ran at high temperature and used the heat as well as the electricity.
But that's it so far.
And Bush's "hydrogen economy" was a scam as well; they were going to get the hydrogen from coal.
There was a 2003 National Academy of Engineering study on hydrogen. It said the only economic way to produce the hydrogen was a large number of nuclear power plants. So the next time someone tells you hydrogen is a solution, tell them that.
Right now, we get our hydrogen from natural gas, USING energy to do so.
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Buck Wed, May 27, 2009 8:45:36am |
S&P starts Canadian stock index defined by Islamic law
Standard & Poor's is launching an index of large Canadian stocks with criteria defined by Islamic law — no companies with businesses in financial services, entertainment, alcohol, pork-related products or tobacco.
| 702 |
opnion Wed, May 27, 2009 8:45:48am |
re: #695 iLikeCandy
Good morning, all.
I don't know all about him, but Rob Simmons, who currently leads Chris Dodd in polls, looks like a Republican who could win some votes from Connecticut libs. Has he been covered here yet?
[Link: www.ontheissues.org...]
Looks like Dodd will have a tough time attacking the guy from the left.
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turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:45:54am |
re: #677 Occasional Reader
If this clown's intentions were to "bash" gay men in Provincetown, of all places, he's lucky he didn't get his ass thoroughly kicked. Never been there, but I'm told that we of the hetero persuasion are rather outnumbered there.
I've been there OR, if you drop your wallet you need to kick it all the way to Pilgrim Heights before you can bend over to pick it up. I'm not kidding, the beaches are littered with condoms.
| 705 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 8:46:28am |
Allah Pundit falls for a most likely bogus story....
Hmmm: Chrysler dealers shut down in Obama bankruptcy are mostly Republican?
| 706 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 8:46:42am |
| 707 |
FrogMarch Wed, May 27, 2009 8:46:47am |
re: #654 Walter L. Newton
Here is the jobs that Obama will be creating...
"In a tiny corner of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science, Biden and his entourage of Cabinet members unveiled plans to spend $500 million to train residents of public housing projects to weatherize homes and launch other new-energy careers."
...
[Link: www.denverpost.com...]
What is it about the Denver Museum of Nature and Science?
Every time they have a huge expensive idea and a fancy paper to sign, they show up here. Go away!
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:46:53am |
re: #699 Kosh's Shadow
said the only economic way to produce the hydrogen was a large number of nuclear power plants. So the next time someone tells you hydrogen is a solution, tell them that.
Right now, we get our hydrogen from natural gas, USING energy to do so.
But there are gargantuan amounts of hydrogn in the Sun! Can't we just mine it from there?
/
| 709 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 8:47:20am |
re: #701 Buck
S&P starts Canadian stock index defined by Islamic law
Standard & Poor's is launching an index of large Canadian stocks with criteria defined by Islamic law — no companies with businesses in financial services, entertainment, alcohol, pork-related products or tobacco.
And probably no business with Israel, no jooos, etc.
Might be useful - to say what companies to avoid, their stock and their products.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, May 27, 2009 8:48:07am |
re: #696 Alouette
Yesterday I thought how cool it would be to get one of those "green jobs" they're all raving about. So I went to [Link: www.greenjobs.com...] to see if they had any listings in my area. Well guess what! It is all a scam. All the job listing are the same listing that you would see on Monster or Careerbuilder except the word environmental is bolded is the position includes anything "environment" related, such as learning how to operate a fire extinguisher in the workplace.
Give the man a biscuit.
How do you train people in "green collar" jobs, when there isn't a mass market in building and creating renewable energy projects? Why are you going to teach me how to install a solar panel when only a limited number of people can afford or even want a solar panel in their lives?
It certainly is a scam.
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Russkilitlover Wed, May 27, 2009 8:48:12am |
re: #696 Alouette
Yesterday I thought how cool it would be to get one of those "green jobs" they're all raving about. So I went to [Link:
| 712 |
sattv4u2 Wed, May 27, 2009 8:48:40am |
re: #708 Occasional Reader
But there are gargantuan amounts of hydrogn in the Sun! Can't we just mine it from there?
/
It;s too hot there, unless we go at night !
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Spare O'Lake Wed, May 27, 2009 8:48:59am |
re: #699 Kosh's Shadow
I can't find the link now, but about a month ago, some Israelis announced the first solar farm that didn't need subsidies. It ran at high temperature and used the heat as well as the electricity.
But that's it so far.
And Bush's "hydrogen economy" was a scam as well; they were going to get the hydrogen from coal.
There was a 2003 National Academy of Engineering study on hydrogen. It said the only economic way to produce the hydrogen was a large number of nuclear power plants. So the next time someone tells you hydrogen is a solution, tell them that.
Right now, we get our hydrogen from natural gas, USING energy to do so.
Why can't they get the hydrogen from water (H2O)?
| 714 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 8:49:23am |
re: #708 Occasional Reader
But there are gargantuan amounts of hydrogn in the Sun! Can't we just mine it from there?
/
We could get it from Jupiter and Saturn, although it is in compounds (such as methane and ammonia).
I've had students point this out, and that Titan is covered in hydrocarbons, and ask if we could use it as fuel.
I point out if we had fuel we could use to get that efficiently, we might as well use that fuel and save the trip.
| 715 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:49:31am |
re: #704 Russkilitlover
'Morning, OR -
Dammit... she told me she was on the pill, and I believed her.
| 716 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:50:56am |
re: #705 Killgore Trout
Allah Pundit falls for a most likely bogus story....
Hmmm: Chrysler dealers shut down in Obama bankruptcy are mostly Republican?
That sounds bogus on its face.
| 717 |
iLikeCandy Wed, May 27, 2009 8:51:14am |
re: #701 Buck
S&P starts Canadian stock index defined by Islamic law
Standard & Poor's is launching an index of large Canadian stocks with criteria defined by Islamic law — no companies with businesses in financial services, entertainment, alcohol, pork-related products or tobacco.
How big a market is that? Wouldn't they be better off basing an index on stuffwhitepeoplelike.com?
| 718 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:51:19am |
re: #708 Occasional Reader
Silly, O's got a ban on off-planet drilling.
| 719 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 8:51:38am |
re: #713 Spare O'Lake
Why can't they get the hydrogen from water (H2O)?
It takes a lot of energy. That's what the nuclear plants are needed for.
By the first law of thermodynamics, we need to put at least as much energy in to split the water as we'd get back from chemical processes with the hydrogen. (Fusion would produce more energy, though)
And electrolysis is inefficient; IIRC, less than 50%, so we'd need at least twice the energy we'd get back.
| 720 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:52:05am |
re: #713 Spare O'Lake
Why can't they get the hydrogen from water (H2O)?
It takes a lot of electricity to get hydrogen from water. The most common source of hydrogen production is from natural gas.
| 721 |
Lincolntf Wed, May 27, 2009 8:52:07am |
re: #703 turn
It is absolutely filthy, no doubt. On the plus side, there are a couple of great used bookstores and Norman Mailer's writer's colony/house (he was still alive when I used to go there), the lighthouse, and of course the whale watching/deep sea fishing tours from the pier.
Never, ever go there after dark.
| 722 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 8:52:28am |
re: #715 Occasional Reader
BTW, Kari from Mythbusters is also pregnant. According to Phil Plait, there will be a show on pregnancy myths. (What she does for science!)
| 723 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:52:49am |
re: #710 Walter L. Newton
Give the man a biscuit.
How do you train people in "green collar" jobs, when there isn't a mass market in building and creating renewable energy projects? Why are you going to teach me how to install a solar panel when only a limited number of people can afford or even want a solar panel in their lives?
It certainly is a scam.
And solar panels run about $10 per watt, so they're economically unfeasible without subsidies.
| 724 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 8:53:31am |
re: #723 Ward Cleaver
And solar panels run about $10 per watt, so they're economically unfeasible without subsidies.
Not after all the carbon taxes get added to oil, and our economy collapses.
/I hope not.
| 725 |
opnion Wed, May 27, 2009 8:53:38am |
re: #716 Ward Cleaver
That sounds bogus on its face.
I would guess that most Chrysler dealers ar Republican.
this is meaningless.
| 726 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:53:59am |
re: #715 Occasional Reader
Dammit... she told me she was on the pill, and I believed her.
Silly, it was a diet pill.
| 727 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 8:54:06am |
re: #716 Ward Cleaver
Yeah, I saw the story a few days ago and didn't consider it likely enough to investigate. The right wing blogs are having a serious credibility problem lately.
| 728 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:54:09am |
re: #713 Spare O'Lake
Why can't they get the hydrogen from water (H2O)?
It takes more energy to split it than you'll ever get back by burning it.
| 729 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:54:15am |
re: #715 Occasional Reader
Dammit... she told me she was on the pill, and I believed her.
Adriana is a good Catholic girl. She would never use the pill!
| 730 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:54:33am |
re: #724 Kosh's Shadow
Not after all the carbon taxes get added to oil, and our economy collapses.
/I hope not.
We could just run on unicorn farts.
| 731 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 8:55:46am |
re: #719 Kosh's Shadow
By the first law of thermodynamics, we need to put at least as much energy in to split the water as we'd get back from chemical processes with the hydrogen.
While the conclusion is true, I believe you are misapplying the First Law of Thermodynamics. That law would not dictate the conclusion, since you aren't dealing with a closed system. (In the same way, it's not the case that the match one uses to ignite a 55 gallon drum of gasoline expends the same amount of energy as that derived from the burning gasoline.)
| 732 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 8:56:25am |
re: #716 Ward Cleaver
...and I just scrolled through the Hot Air comments. Lots of talk about secession and armed revolt.
| 733 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 8:56:36am |
re: #730 Ward Cleaver
We could just run on unicorn farts.
In fact, the Obama administration has been running on just that since November. Hell, it even got him elected. That, and Soros' money.
| 734 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, May 27, 2009 8:57:00am |
(*prairie dog head popping up out of hole*)
Just sayin' -- what with the noises from North Korea, I'm leaving my Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club avatar in place.
/*disappearing* .............. (bbl, busy here)
| 735 |
sattv4u2 Wed, May 27, 2009 8:57:02am |
re: #725 opnion
I would guess that most Chrysler dealers ar Republican.
this is meaningless.
I don't see the correlation between party affiliation and dealership ownership. Please 'splain
| 736 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 8:57:15am |
re: #721 Lincolntf
It is absolutely filthy, no doubt. On the plus side, there are a couple of great used bookstores and Norman Mailer's writer's colony/house (he was still alive when I used to go there), the lighthouse, and of course the whale watching/deep sea fishing tours from the pier.
Never, ever go there after dark.
Only been there once, no desire to go back. You see a real cross section of humanity there that's for sure.
| 737 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 8:57:19am |
re: #732 Killgore Trout
...and I just scrolled through the Hot Air comments. Lots of talk about secession and armed revolt.
The lunatics are running the asylum.
| 738 |
CIA Reject Wed, May 27, 2009 8:57:20am |
re: #731 Occasional Reader
While the conclusion is true, I believe you are misapplying the First Law of Thermodynamics. That law would not dictate the conclusion, since you aren't dealing with a closed system. (In the same way, it's not the case that the match one uses to ignite a 55 gallon drum of gasoline expends the same amount of energy as that derived from the burning gasoline.)
First Law of Thermodynamics: "You Can't Win".
Second Law of Thermodynamics: "You Can't Break Even Either".
| 739 |
lawhawk Wed, May 27, 2009 8:57:46am |
re: #716 Ward Cleaver
Something there there? Perhaps. One particular dealership was canned, while another was spared the axe.
The one axed was GOPer linked, while the one spared (and allowed to take over the other), was linked with Democrat bigwigs. And it appears that the Obama Administration was the one who proffered the dealerships to axe.
One example can't be extrapolated to the whole, but transparency on how those cuts were made has to be demanded by all parties.
| 740 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 8:57:48am |
re: #732 Killgore Trout
Hot Air Comment.....
Well, it took a while, but the country did eventually prosper again after the first Civil War. It was a violent and extremely ugly reconstruction period, but eventually the unbridled capitalism of our industrial age brought us back.This time is different. Once the currency collapses under the weight of Obamanomics, and our largest energy-producing states like Texas and Alaska are forced to secede and form new independent capitalist republics with a few other like-minded states, the newly Balkanized NA continent will suffer anarchy for a very long time. Bloody, prolonged conflicts against and within the impoverished communist Obama blue states will eventually purge the land of their sickness, but sadly, none of us will live long enough to see liberty’s resurrection.
The collapse and dissolution of the greatest nation this earth has ever known - This will be the Obama legacy.
Yeesh!
| 741 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, May 27, 2009 8:58:32am |
BNP sootikin (thanks for that most excellent word, Ludwig) Nick Griffin pulls out of Palace trip.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
The leader of the British National Party has said he will not attend a Buckingham Palace garden party following uproar over his invitation.
Nick Griffin said he had "no wish to embarrass the Queen" at the event.
| 742 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 8:59:07am |
re: #731 Occasional Reader
While the conclusion is true, I believe you are misapplying the First Law of Thermodynamics. That law would not dictate the conclusion, since you aren't dealing with a closed system. (In the same way, it's not the case that the match one uses to ignite a 55 gallon drum of gasoline expends the same amount of energy as that derived from the burning gasoline.)
In fact, it is quite applicable as it is a cycle.
The starting material is water.
Add energy and get hydrogen and oxygen.
Burn the hydrogen or use it in a fuel cell and get water. (Oxygen comes from the air). Get energy from this process, but less than you added.
You end up with the same amount of water.
In your example, you start with gasoline and a match.
You end up with combustion products.
To complete the cycle, you'd have to take those combustion products and produce gasoline from them. That's the equivalent to splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen.
| 743 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 8:59:19am |
Another one....
Is it treason to dissent from an absolute monarchy, Dave? Rather, is it wrong? I support America–the idea of America. Not Victor Hugo, Mussolini, or Adolf Hitler’s idea of a perfect state, which is what Obama is hell bent on building here. That’s not my country, and I refuse to support such an idea.
Anti-Americanism under the guise of patriotism.
| 744 |
Buck Wed, May 27, 2009 8:59:26am |
re: #699 Kosh's Shadow
There was a 2003 National Academy of Engineering study on hydrogen. It said the only economic way to produce the hydrogen was a large number of nuclear power plants. So the next time someone tells you hydrogen is a solution, tell them that.
If you just want to talk about Produce Hydrogen, then that is nonsense. I happen to know that a very economic way to produce Hydrogen, is Hydro power. The electricity is generated by the water falling.
The problem then becomes transportation of the hydrogen, as you cannot place a dam just anywhere...
| 745 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, May 27, 2009 8:59:59am |
re: #732 Killgore Trout
...and I just scrolled through the Hot Air comments. Lots of talk about secession and armed revolt.
Gotta love them 'true conservatives'.
| 747 |
opnion Wed, May 27, 2009 9:00:53am |
According to Rasmuessen, 49% of Americans now disagree with Obama on closing Gitmo, while 38% support the decision.
Does that give BHO cover to back off or is he too committed to his base?
| 748 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 9:01:19am |
re: #735 sattv4u2
I don't see the correlation between party affiliation and dealership ownership. Please 'splain
The idea that the 0 administration would bounce a list of owners of dealers against contributors to the McCain campaign, for example. I don't think they'd even have that list, though.
Chrysler generated the list based on objective factors, like sales volume, customer satisfaction ratings (dealers that aren't "Five Star" rated), geographical proximity to other Chrysler dealers, etc.
| 749 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 9:01:24am |
re: #741 Jimmah
BNP sootikin (thanks for that most excellent word, Ludwig) Nick Griffin pulls out of Palace trip.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
He probably had no wish to be personally embarrassed himself, the wimp!
Like - when he and his crony didn't get any invitation ... or worse ...
;-)
| 750 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 9:01:42am |
re: #745 Jimmah
It's just painful to watch them do this to themselves.
| 751 |
bloodnok Wed, May 27, 2009 9:01:58am |
re: #743 Killgore Trout
Another one....
Anti-Americanism under the guise of patriotism.
You must be one o' them moderates. GET OUT!
///
| 752 |
CIA Reject Wed, May 27, 2009 9:02:31am |
re: #747 opnion
According to Rasmuessen, 49% of Americans now disagree with Obama on closing Gitmo, while 38% support the decision.
Does that give BHO cover to back off or is he too committed to his base?
If I were a betting man I'd bet that he puts the whole thing off until after the 2010 elections.
| 753 |
Ojoe Wed, May 27, 2009 9:02:37am |
re: #744 Buck
All reservoirs eventually silt up & in that sense hydro power is not renewable.
| 754 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 9:02:48am |
re: #744 Buck
If you just want to talk about Produce Hydrogen, then that is nonsense. I happen to know that a very economic way to produce Hydrogen, is Hydro power. The electricity is generated by the water falling.
The problem then becomes transportation of the hydrogen, as you cannot place a dam just anywhere...
There just aren't enough locations for dams to produce all the electricity we'd need to produce all the hydrogen we'd need.
Better to use nuclear power for electricity, and gasoline and natural gas for vehicles where nuclear power is inefficient (needs too much shielding).
BTW, natural gas cars are quite easy to make.
But my ideas make too much sense for the government.
| 755 |
Sabnen Wed, May 27, 2009 9:03:06am |
re: #730 Ward Cleaver
We could just run on unicorn farts.
Unicorns fart butterflies . . . completely useless for energy production.
| 756 |
iLikeCandy Wed, May 27, 2009 9:03:13am |
re: #747 opnion
According to Rasmuessen, 49% of Americans now disagree with Obama on closing Gitmo, while 38% support the decision.
Does that give BHO cover to back off or is he too committed to his base?
He's committed to his waffle. If it soaks up too much syrup, he'll put it back in the toaster for a minute. If it gets too dry, he'll pour on more syrup and butter.
| 757 |
avanti Wed, May 27, 2009 9:03:18am |
Last week I posted that a Studebaker friend of mine was involved in a drag racing accident. Ted Harbit had been racing the same 51 Studebaker since 1961, stocking in stock class, then all the way up to a twin turbocharged 700 HP Studebaker 289 cu.in engine.
Ted is 74 years old, and was just inducted into the NHRA hall of fame. He's out of the hospital and planning on getting his new Avanti drag car dragging by the spring. Here's a slide show of the 51 Studebakers last day and the wreck. The "Chicken Hawk" blew a turbo oil line at speed and spun out and flipped over and over.
wreck
| 758 |
opnion Wed, May 27, 2009 9:03:27am |
re: #735 sattv4u2
I don't see the correlation between party affiliation and dealership ownership. Please 'splain
Just that they tend to be entrepreneurs, which might suggest that they favor Republicans. What I am saying is that even if the majority of the dealers closed support Republicans, it is impossible to conclude that they were targeted.
| 759 |
CIA Reject Wed, May 27, 2009 9:03:51am |
re: #754 Kosh's Shadow
There just aren't enough locations for dams to produce all the electricity we'd need to produce all the hydrogen we'd need.
Better to use nuclear power for electricity, and gasoline and natural gas for vehicles where nuclear power is inefficient (needs too much shielding).
BTW, natural gas cars are quite easy to make.
But my ideas make too much sense for the government.
DING!
| 760 |
Eowyn2 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:04:14am |
re: #716 Ward Cleaver
That sounds bogus on its face.
I wonder what percentage of small business owners are Democrat? I know a couple but I would hazard a guess (and 5 bucks) that the percentage of small business owners (5-25 employees) are Republican or Independent. Therefore, the dealerships would have a higher percentage of republican owners than democrat. That does not, however, indicate a conspiracy or intent to shut down targeted businesses.
| 761 |
Summersong Wed, May 27, 2009 9:04:20am |
For a down day in the market (I suspect it will turn up today), some things are doing very well.
| 762 |
MrSilverDragon Wed, May 27, 2009 9:04:30am |
re: #755 Sabnen
Unicorns fart butterflies . . . completely useless for energy production.
And besides, with all those butterflies flapping, we'd end up causing hurricanes and cyclones all over the world!
/I need sleep
| 764 |
opnion Wed, May 27, 2009 9:05:10am |
re: #752 CIA Reject
If I were a betting man I'd bet that he puts the whole thing off until after the 2010 elections.
I do believe that he would like to. He can make a plausible case for delay, but the real hard core Lefties will not be happy.
| 765 |
VegasRick Wed, May 27, 2009 9:05:23am |
re: #748 Ward Cleaver
The idea that the 0 administration would bounce a list of owners of dealers against contributors to the McCain campaign, for example. I don't think they'd even have that list, though.
Chrysler generated the list based on objective factors, like sales volume, customer satisfaction ratings (dealers that aren't "Five Star" rated), geographical proximity to other Chrysler dealers, etc.
Sure they would. I'd like to see how that was done.
| 766 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 9:05:40am |
re: #731 Occasional Reader
While the conclusion is true, I believe you are misapplying the First Law of Thermodynamics. That law would not dictate the conclusion, since you aren't dealing with a closed system. (In the same way, it's not the case that the match one uses to ignite a 55 gallon drum of gasoline expends the same amount of energy as that derived from the burning gasoline.)
WTF? That was satire right?
The chemical equation for electrolosis:
2 H2O > 2 H2 + O2
The chemical equation for burning H2:
2 H2 + O2 = 2 H20
It's the same thing in reverse. No more energy comes out that was put in. However, electrolysis is not 100% efficient. Half the energy put in is lost as heat. Therefore, hydrogen as a fuel source is not a magic fix. You still need to have plenty of cheap electricity to make work.
| 767 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 9:05:59am |
re: #739 lawhawk
Something there there? Perhaps. One particular dealership was canned, while another was spared the axe.
The one axed was GOPer linked, while the one spared (and allowed to take over the other), was linked with Democrat bigwigs. And it appears that the Obama Administration was the one who proffered the dealerships to axe.
One example can't be extrapolated to the whole, but transparency on how those cuts were made has to be demanded by all parties.
Oooooh, I always wondered if the McLarty dealerships were associated with Mack McLarty. Huh.
To be fair, Michelle is cautioning people about going overboard about the hit list.
| 768 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, May 27, 2009 9:06:18am |
re: #748 Ward Cleaver
The idea that the 0 administration would bounce a list of owners of dealers against contributors to the McCain campaign, for example. I don't think they'd even have that list, though.
Chrysler generated the list based on objective factors, like sales volume, customer satisfaction ratings (dealers that aren't "Five Star" rated), geographical proximity to other Chrysler dealers, etc.
What I don't understand is how cutting dealerships loose helps the manufacturer financially?
I'm told by friends in the auto business that inventory financing doesn't usually come from the manufacturer. Some, if not all, of the dealerships being shut down are not owned by the manufacturer, so it doesn't seem that profitability of the dealerships would be a factor.
Anyone have inside knowledge/understanding of this?
| 769 |
abolitionist Wed, May 27, 2009 9:07:15am |
re: #720 Kenneth
It takes a lot of electricity to get hydrogen from water. The most common source of hydrogen production is from natural gas.
An alternative approach, from 2005:
ZINC POWDER WILL DRIVE YOUR HYDROGEN CAR The animation can be understood by most folks with a high school chemistry background.
Hydrogen Can Be Produced from Zinc Using Solar Power (and some biomass as reducing agent)
I think it's an ingenious workaround for the hydrogen storage problem.
| 770 |
UFO TOFU Wed, May 27, 2009 9:08:35am |
re: #757 avanti
Wow, he blew a turbo oil line and no fire? Pretty lucky.
| 771 |
Orangutan Wed, May 27, 2009 9:08:47am |
re: #699 Kosh's Shadow
....Right now, we get our hydrogen from natural gas, USING energy to do so.
When adjusted for the production of hydrogen, none of these hydrogen-based energy conversion systems/engines/fuel cells are more efficient than a decent internal combustion engine. We have dumped a lot of intellectual and tangible capital to find it does ... worse. At the end of the day, the overall efficiency is going to be a determining factor, and hydrogen costs too much energy to isolate when normalized by the energy we can use from it.
| 772 |
J.S. Wed, May 27, 2009 9:09:05am |
re: #747 opnion
I've read that it'll be impossible to close Gitmo by January of next year, simply due to the number of legal briefs filed and all the time it takes to hear them all (it's the speed at which the legal process proceeds -- and, it'll take forever...) Right there, Obama has an "out." (if he chooses to take it -- he could simply say, "Well, I wanted to close Gitmo, but the legal process is such that it takes more time than I expected...")
| 773 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 9:09:05am |
re: #757 avanti
jeeze, he's lucky he made it out alive judging by the wreckage.
| 774 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, May 27, 2009 9:09:06am |
re: #750 Killgore Trout
It's just painful to watch them do this to themselves.
This lot are even worse than the lefty moonbats if you ask me. Probably much worse. For example, I can't recall posts at Kos openly drooling over the prospect of the violent dissolution of the United States like this one from the Hot Air thread:
This time is different. Once the currency collapses under the weight of Obamanomics, and our largest energy-producing states like Texas and Alaska are forced to secede and form new independent capitalist republics with a few other like-minded states, the newly Balkanized NA continent will suffer anarchy for a very long time. Bloody, prolonged conflicts against and within the impoverished communist Obama blue states will eventually purge the land of their sickness, but sadly, none of us will live long enough to see liberty’s resurrection.
The collapse and dissolution of the greatest nation this earth has ever known - This will be the Obama legacy.
| 775 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 9:09:15am |
re: #744 Buck
If you just want to talk about Produce Hydrogen, then that is nonsense. I happen to know that a very economic way to produce Hydrogen, is Hydro power. The electricity is generated by the water falling.
The problem then becomes transportation of the hydrogen, as you cannot place a dam just anywhere...
Umm, dude... "Hydro power" does not produce hydrogen. It produces electricity by turning generators, changing kinetic energy into electrical energy. You would then have to take that electricity and use electrolysis to produce hydrogen.
| 776 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 9:09:19am |
re: #753 Ojoe
All reservoirs eventually silt up & in that sense hydro power is not renewable.
Yes, look at how they have to open gates at Hoover Dam periodically, to try to reduce the silt.re: #765 VegasRick
Sure they would. I'd like to see how that was done.
Maybe it was a combination - first, Chrysler generated an objective list, then the 0 administration modified it.
| 777 |
UFO TOFU Wed, May 27, 2009 9:10:00am |
re: #754 Kosh's Shadow
BTW, natural gas cars are quite easy to make.
Yes but about the lack of infrastructure?
| 778 |
Cato the Elder Wed, May 27, 2009 9:10:11am |
The edifice of reason is built on the rock of superstition.
I said that.
| 779 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 9:10:51am |
re: #771 Orangutan
When adjusted for the production of hydrogen, none of these hydrogen-based energy conversion systems/engines/fuel cells are more efficient than a decent internal combustion engine. We have dumped a lot of intellectual and tangible capital to find it does ... worse. At the end of the day, the overall efficiency is going to be a determining factor, and hydrogen costs too much energy to isolate when normalized by the energy we can use from it.
That's why I said we should get our electricity from nuclear power and use fossil fuels for transportation.
We have a long way to go before we run out completely, if we go for coal conversion (to liquid and gas).
| 780 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, May 27, 2009 9:11:21am |
re: #749 yma o hyd
He probably had no wish to be personally embarrassed himself, the wimp!
Like - when he and his crony didn't get any invitation ... or worse ...
;-)
He was invited, but by one of his own BNP cronies who happened to get elected to the London Assembly:#
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
| 781 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 9:11:34am |
re: #768 eschew_obfuscation
What I don't understand is how cutting dealerships loose helps the manufacturer financially?
I'm told by friends in the auto business that inventory financing doesn't usually come from the manufacturer. Some, if not all, of the dealerships being shut down are not owned by the manufacturer, so it doesn't seem that profitability of the dealerships would be a factor.
Anyone have inside knowledge/understanding of this?
It's the internal competition amongst dealers. They tend to drive the prices of new vehicles down when there are too many of them, and thus, they put downward pressure on the MSRP. BTW, a manufacturer cannot own any dealerships in any of the 50 states due to state franchising laws. With less internal competition, the remaining dealers can potentially make more per vehicle and sell more vehicles as well. It is better from the perspectives of the manufacturer and the remaining dealers to do this.
Example: A Dodge dealer and a Chrysler-Jeep dealer each sell 300 cars/year. By combining them, they then sell 600 cars/year. Better volume, better sales, better profit.
| 782 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 9:11:34am |
| 784 |
turn Wed, May 27, 2009 9:11:43am |
re: #764 opnion
I do believe that he would like to. He can make a plausible case for delay, but the real hard core Lefties will not be happy.
Then I say waterboard their ass. Idiots
| 785 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 9:12:10am |
For a totally idiotic headline, I think this one is hard to beat:
33 Britons aboard swine-flu cruise ship Pacific Dawn
Swine-flu cruise ship?
Can we also book on bird-flu cruise ships? Or general flu cruise ships?
Gah!
| 786 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 9:12:18am |
re: #777 UFO TOFU
Yes but about the lack of infrastructure?
That is easier to solve than producing hydrogen.
Already, buses and fleet vehicles run on natural gas; we could start by expanding it.
And it wouldn't take a whole new technology like hydrogen.
| 787 |
capitalist piglet Wed, May 27, 2009 9:12:38am |
re: #743 Killgore Trout
Another one....
Anti-Americanism under the guise of patriotism.
Aren't you registered over there, Killgore? I thought you were.
| 788 |
opnion Wed, May 27, 2009 9:12:42am |
re: #772 J.S.
I've read that it'll be impossible to close Gitmo by January of next year, simply due to the number of legal briefs filed and all the time it takes to hear them all (it's the speed at which the legal process proceeds -- and, it'll take forever...) Right there, Obama has an "out." (if he chooses to take it -- he could simply say, "Well, I wanted to close Gitmo, but the legal process is such that it takes more time than I expected...")
I would bet that Obama will take that out. Nobody wants these guys in their states even in max security.I think that their is a fear that sympathisers will cause troble in the hosting locales.
| 789 |
Guanxi88 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:13:14am |
re: #779 Kosh's Shadow
That's why I said we should get our electricity from nuclear power and use fossil fuels for transportation.
We have a long way to go before we run out completely, if we go for coal conversion (to liquid and gas).
Coal to liquids, baby! Wave of the future.
| 790 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 9:13:24am |
re: #785 yma o hyd
For a totally idiotic headline, I think this one is hard to beat:
33 Britons aboard swine-flu cruise ship Pacific Dawn
Swine-flu cruise ship?
Can we also book on bird-flu cruise ships? Or general flu cruise ships?
Gah!
We could have the "Bring Out Your Dead" Plague ships! Lots of fun.
////
| 791 |
calcajun Wed, May 27, 2009 9:13:57am |
re: #778 Cato the Elder
Under which lies the firm bed bedrock of quivering fear.
| 792 |
Summersong Wed, May 27, 2009 9:14:22am |
Losing talent? Oh, you mean bankers are lining up for the abundant green jobs?
/
May 27, 2009 (SmarTrend(R) News Watch via COMTEX) --
According to media reports, Citigroup (NYSE:C) and Bank of America
(NYSE:BAC) are widely expected to follow UBS' (NYSE:UBS) move to raise
salaries for its investment bankers to compensate for bonus caps. UBS
(NYSE:UBS) announced yesterday, that despite investor criticism it planned to uphold its salary hike. Morgan Stanley (NYSE:MS) announced a similar salary increase last week. Lately, large banks are being forced to deal with a double-edged sword of sorts, as they try to avoid losing talent by increasing base salaries, while simultaneously trying to appease government regulators and shareholders who feel investment bankers are overpaid.
| 793 |
Orangutan Wed, May 27, 2009 9:14:52am |
re: #779 Kosh's Shadow
That's why I said we should get our electricity from nuclear power and use fossil fuels for transportation.
We have a long way to go before we run out completely, if we go for coal conversion (to liquid and gas).
I was in complete agreement with you.....guess I didn't indicate that.
At the end of the day, demand reduction (and substantial, at that) is going to be what "saves us". I think the American experiment with the auto as the center of society is coming to an unfortunate close.
| 794 |
Guanxi88 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:15:21am |
re: #791 calcajun
Under which lies the firm bed bedrock of quivering fear.
Served with soup of the day and house salad. No substitutions, please.
| 795 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 9:15:23am |
re: #780 Jimmah
He was invited, but by one of his own BNP cronies who happened to get elected to the London Assembly:#
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
I thought the invitations hadn't been sent out yet? And that this London Assembly BNP man was one of the lucky people who would get an invitation, in due course, chosing Mr Griffin as his guest ...
I suspect Mr Griffin got very very cold feet, all of a sudden!
| 796 |
Cato the Elder Wed, May 27, 2009 9:15:24am |
re: #791 calcajun
Under which lies the firm bed bedrock of quivering fear.
And below that - turtles!
| 797 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 9:15:48am |
re: #769 abolitionist
How much energy does it take to mine & process the zinc?
| 798 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 9:15:55am |
re: #779 Kosh's Shadow
That's why I said we should get our electricity from nuclear power
No way! Nuke plants make baby polar bears cry. Or something like that.
| 799 |
CIA Reject Wed, May 27, 2009 9:16:31am |
| 800 |
UFO TOFU Wed, May 27, 2009 9:16:39am |
re: #786 Kosh's Shadow
That is easier to solve than producing hydrogen.
Already, buses and fleet vehicles run on natural gas; we could start by expanding it.
And it wouldn't take a whole new technology like hydrogen.
True enough. But infrastructure isn't cheap. Three-phase power, permitting, high maintenance pumps, certifying tanks, diminished range, etc. I looked into it for our buses and decided to eat the cost of driving to a fill station in an adjacent city.
| 801 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 9:16:47am |
| 802 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 9:16:53am |
| 803 |
sattv4u2 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:16:55am |
re: #768 eschew_obfuscation
What I don't understand is how cutting dealerships loose helps the manufacturer financially?
Less costs to the manufacturers for things like delivery, accounting (think warranty,, right now the manufacturer must keep records for lets say 10 dealerships in Atlanta area. If they cut that to 4 it's more centralized) and the biggest thing is inventory control. 10 dealerships would all want at 10 of a certain make/ model on their lots (='s 100 cars)
4 dealerships would require only 40 cars
| 804 |
Guanxi88 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:16:59am |
re: #789 Guanxi88
Coal to liquids, baby! Wave of the future.
It's worked before, and cheaper than the whole German synthetic gasoline.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 805 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 9:17:11am |
re: #757 avanti
Last week I posted that a Studebaker friend of mine was involved in a drag racing accident. Ted Harbit had been racing the same 51 Studebaker since 1961, stocking in stock class, then all the way up to a twin turbocharged 700 HP Studebaker 289 cu.in engine.
Ted is 74 years old, and was just inducted into the NHRA hall of fame. He's out of the hospital and planning on getting his new Avanti drag car dragging by the spring. Here's a slide show of the 51 Studebakers last day and the wreck. The "Chicken Hawk" blew a turbo oil line at speed and spun out and flipped over and over.
wreck
Wow, he really pranged it. Thank goodness he had good strong rollcage. That bench seat makes me nervous, though. I'd rather have a proper racing seat, so the harness wouldn't have to work so hard to hold me in place.
| 806 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 9:17:12am |
re: #774 Jimmah
It's about the same as what the LLL was doing a few years ago. I think the only difference is that conservatives might be a little more likely to act out.
| 807 |
Orangutan Wed, May 27, 2009 9:17:17am |
re: #786 Kosh's Shadow
That is easier to solve than producing hydrogen.
Already, buses and fleet vehicles run on natural gas; we could start by expanding it.
And it wouldn't take a whole new technology like hydrogen.
Maybe so .... maybe we just use (and marginally expand) the electric distribution system we have, and also expand meaningful public transportation. Also encourage more collective living (townhouses/condos) in urban and near-urban areas. Public trains can run on the juice - the gas pipeline system is not near as ubiquitous or as easy to expand as the electrical one.
just a theory
| 808 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 9:17:24am |
re: #793 Orangutan
I was in complete agreement with you.....guess I didn't indicate that.
At the end of the day, demand reduction (and substantial, at that) is going to be what "saves us". I think the American experiment with the auto as the center of society is coming to an unfortunate close.
That will involve a disruption bigger than the housing crunch. Our cities and towns largely aren't laid out for public transportation.
It won't just affect where people live (suburbs aren't inhabitable without cars), but industrial parks built outside central areas, where public transportation isn't feasible.
And I live outside Boston; newer areas are worse. Imagine trying to put in efficient, fast transportation for cities that are widely spread out?
| 809 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 9:17:41am |
re: #776 Ward Cleaver
Maybe it was a combination - first, Chrysler generated an objective list, then the 0 administration modified it.
Dang, screwed that up.
| 810 |
MandyManners Wed, May 27, 2009 9:18:05am |
re: #792 Summersong
government regulators and shareholders who feel investment bankers are overpaid
Buncha' fucking commie bastards.
| 811 |
ConservatismNow! Wed, May 27, 2009 9:18:10am |
re: #783 unrealizedviewpoint
That is absolutely messed up. Stifiling freedom of expression for fear of rocking the boat is absurd. I'm pretty certain the other people who complained had driven to the hospital in cars with Mexican license plates. Or they were hippies. Everybody knows hippies hate everything.
| 812 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, May 27, 2009 9:18:20am |
re: #785 yma o hyd
For a totally idiotic headline, I think this one is hard to beat:
33 Britons aboard swine-flu cruise ship Pacific Dawn
Swine-flu cruise ship?
Can we also book on bird-flu cruise ships? Or general flu cruise ships?
Gah!
"On the swine-flu ship, Pacific Dawn
It's a short trip to the hospital ward"
| 813 |
Killgore Trout Wed, May 27, 2009 9:18:27am |
re: #787 capitalist piglet
I did register over there but there are too many banned lizards at Hot Air who hate me. I made a few comments but it's not an interesting blog for me to comment on.
| 814 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 9:18:29am |
Once we invent the Zero-Point Module, all this energy talk will become moot.
| 815 |
AuntAcid Wed, May 27, 2009 9:20:19am |
re: #788 opnion
I would bet that Obama will take that out. Nobody wants these guys in their states even in max security.I think that their is a fear that sympathisers will cause troble in the hosting locales.
If I had to choose, I'd take Gitmo over any supermax.
See [Link: www.supermaxed.com...]
| 816 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 9:20:32am |
re: #782 Occasional Reader
I think I may have misread your post. Never mind.
Oh look, Adriana Lima is testing out some new solar cells!
| 817 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 9:20:54am |
re: #814 Occasional Reader
Once we invent the Zero-Point Module, all this energy talk will become moot.
It looks very pretty - and one can even hold it without damaging oneself!
:-))
| 818 |
VegasRick Wed, May 27, 2009 9:21:04am |
re: #809 Ward Cleaver
Dang, screwed that up.
Saw that, I'd still like to know how the decisions were made.
| 819 |
KenJen Wed, May 27, 2009 9:21:08am |
re: #785 yma o hyd
For a totally idiotic headline, I think this one is hard to beat:
33 Britons aboard swine-flu cruise ship Pacific Dawn
Swine-flu cruise ship?
Can we also book on bird-flu cruise ships? Or general flu cruise ships?
Gah!
The Somali Muslim pirates should leave them alone.
| 820 |
Son of the Black Dog Wed, May 27, 2009 9:21:14am |
| 821 |
Ward Cleaver Wed, May 27, 2009 9:21:14am |
| 822 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, May 27, 2009 9:21:15am |
re: #781 Honorary Yooper
It's the internal competition amongst dealers. They tend to drive the prices of new vehicles down when there are too many of them, and thus, they put downward pressure on the MSRP. BTW, a manufacturer cannot own any dealerships in any of the 50 states due to state franchising laws. With less internal competition, the remaining dealers can potentially make more per vehicle and sell more vehicles as well. It is better from the perspectives of the manufacturer and the remaining dealers to do this.
Example: A Dodge dealer and a Chrysler-Jeep dealer each sell 300 cars/year. By combining them, they then sell 600 cars/year. Better volume, better sales, better profit.
Thanks, but I'm still not clear on this.
Reducing the number of dealerships might reduce the supply in any given market, but I don't see how that helps the manufacturer. He gets the same price for each car he sells regardless of how many dealerships do the selling or what the prices were that the dealers received, no?
I don't see how reducing dealerships increases sales except at the dealership level for remaining dealers.
| 823 |
yma o hyd Wed, May 27, 2009 9:22:06am |
| 824 |
Orangutan Wed, May 27, 2009 9:22:45am |
re: #808 Kosh's Shadow
...
And I live outside Boston; newer areas are worse. Imagine trying to put in efficient, fast transportation for cities that are widely spread out?
"Urban redevelopment" in many western US cities is focusing on exactly more (much more) collective living space, but I think the transportation infrastructure is very limiting. However, with our population increasing and energy costs and marginal consumption doing the same, I think we are going to see movement back into the cities IF the public transport can be fostered. There is plenty of disruption to go around since we have handled the problem so far with our characteristic vision and attention to detail (like, say, Social Security and Medicare).
| 825 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, May 27, 2009 9:22:56am |
re: #735 sattv4u2
I don't see the correlation between party affiliation and dealership ownership. Please 'splain
Ask yourself this question: What Democrat do you know who would sell cars?
| 826 |
Cato the Elder Wed, May 27, 2009 9:23:12am |
re: #514 taxfreekiller
The Real World.
S&P/Case-Shiller Home Price Index.
Year to Yeat,, March to March.Phoenix....-36%
Las Vegas.-31.2%
San Francisco..-30.1%
Miami.............- 28.7%
Detroit...........-25.7%
Minneapolis.....-23.3
Tampa, Fl.......-22.4%
Los Angeles....- 22.3%
San Diego.......-22%
Chicago..........-18.6%
Washington D.C.-18.4%
Seattle.............-16.4%
Atlanta..............-15.7%
Portland, Or........-15.3%
New York............-11.8%
charlotte NC.......-9.3%
Cleveland...........-9%
Boston...............-8%
Dallas.................-5.6%
Denver...............-5.5%over all -18.7%
How is that cheap illegal wage slave deal working for ya ?
Home prices are falling because before that they were in a bubble. Like tulips.
No way a shoddy medium-sized McMansion on Subdivision Street in Bunghole, WI, was ever "worth" $650,000. People who thought they were paying a fair price for that shite were utter fools taken in by the hype.
Equity, shmequity. Most Americans under the age of 50 would be better off renting anyway. Lose your job? Have to move to a new city? Landlord's problem. Give notice and move. Downsize to smaller apartment. Roof leaking? Boiler blown? Landlord's problem. Not yours.
But by all means blame it on Mexicans if it makes you feel better.
| 827 |
sattv4u2 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:24:19am |
re: #822 eschew_obfuscation
Thanks, but I'm still not clear on this.
Reducing the number of dealerships might reduce the supply in any given market, but I don't see how that helps the manufacturer. He gets the same price for each car he sells regardless of how many dealerships do the selling or what the prices were that the dealers received, no?
I don't see how reducing dealerships increases sales except at the dealership level for remaining dealers.
Because some of the dealerships are still owned by the manufacturer, either directly or a franchise as opposed to lets say YOU owning one. If they cut out some of the independents than the "manufactureres owned" lots get a higher percentage of sales
| 828 |
Kenneth Wed, May 27, 2009 9:24:24am |
re: #791 calcajun
Under which lies the firm bed bedrock of quivering fear.
That which is firm does not quiver and that which quivers is not firm.
| 829 |
Guanxi88 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:25:02am |
re: #828 Kenneth
That which is firm does not quiver and that which quivers is not firm.
Which makes the imagery all the better.
| 830 |
opnion Wed, May 27, 2009 9:25:13am |
re: #815 AuntAcid
If I had to choose, I'd take Gitmo over any supermax.
See [Link: www.supermaxed.com...]
Absolutely, these detainees are better off in Gitmo Than any state side prison, especially supermax.
| 831 |
sattv4u2 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:25:26am |
re: #825 unreconstructed rebel
Ask yourself this question: What Democrat do you know who would sell cars?
There are 2 dealers that I know of in my town that are owned by people that had Kerry then Obama signs on their personal vehicles
| 832 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 9:26:09am |
re: #826 Cato the Elder
No way a shoddy medium-sized McMansion on Subdivision Street in Bunghole, WI, was ever "worth" $650,000. People who thought they were paying a fair price for that shite were utter fools taken in by the hype.
I agree. When the price of a perfectly normal suburban family home was closing in a million frickkin' dollars, you knew something was seriously wrong.
| 833 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Wed, May 27, 2009 9:26:15am |
re: #795 yma o hyd
They certainly had nothing to gain by pushing it, except the humiliation of a royal "fuck off and don't come anywhere near us".
| 834 |
Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 9:26:49am |
re: #816 Kenneth
I think I may have misread your post. Never mind.
Oh look, Adriana Lima is testing out some new solar cells!
And they're green, no less.
| 836 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 9:27:35am |
re: #804 Guanxi88
It's worked before, and cheaper than the whole German synthetic gasoline.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
At $35/bbl, that's fairly cost-effective currently, and even in the future.
| 837 |
Son of the Black Dog Wed, May 27, 2009 9:27:45am |
re: #744 Buck
If you just want to talk about Produce Hydrogen, then that is nonsense. I happen to know that a very economic way to produce Hydrogen, is Hydro power. The electricity is generated by the water falling.
The problem then becomes transportation of the hydrogen, as you cannot place a dam just anywhere...
And we're already using almost all of the hydro generating capacity available in the US. The remaining sites have environmental/cultural problems (i.e., the Grand Canyon has some wonderful hydro sites).
| 838 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, May 27, 2009 9:27:50am |
re: #760 Eowyn2
I wonder what percentage of small business owners are Democrat? I know a couple but I would hazard a guess (and 5 bucks) that the percentage of small business owners (5-25 employees) are Republican or Independent. Therefore, the dealerships would have a higher percentage of republican owners than democrat. That does not, however, indicate a conspiracy or intent to shut down targeted businesses.
I think you are right. If there were an intent to single out the republican owned/operated dealerships, who would be left?
| 839 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, May 27, 2009 9:28:02am |
re: #803 sattv4u2
What I don't understand is how cutting dealerships loose helps the manufacturer financially?
Less costs to the manufacturers for things like delivery, accounting (think warranty,, right now the manufacturer must keep records for lets say 10 dealerships in Atlanta area. If they cut that to 4 it's more centralized) and the biggest thing is inventory control. 10 dealerships would all want at 10 of a certain make/ model on their lots (='s 100 cars)
4 dealerships would require only 40 cars
Unless I'm mistaken, dealers pay shipping costs. And why would a manufacturer care how much inventory dealers buy from them except that each car is a sale for the manufacturer, so it seems to me 'the more, the better'. The paperwork part makes some sense, but if the manufacturer sells cars, a warranties go with them regardless of the number of dealers buying them.
| 840 |
Guanxi88 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:28:43am |
re: #836 Honorary Yooper
At $35/bbl, that's fairly cost-effective currently, and even in the future.
And that's ignoring the value of the coal gas, coke, and other products from the process. And carbon-neutral, for those who care about that sort of thing.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 9:29:33am |
re: #825 unreconstructed rebel
Ask yourself this question: What Democrat do you know who would sell cars?
I know a lot of Illinois Democrats who would be natural used car salesmen.
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eschew_obfuscation Wed, May 27, 2009 9:29:44am |
re: #827 sattv4u2
Because some of the dealerships are still owned by the manufacturer, either directly or a franchise as opposed to lets say YOU owning one. If they cut out some of the independents than the "manufactureres owned" lots get a higher percentage of sales
O.K..... the manufacturer-owned dealership makes sense to me. I didn't know that was common in the auto industry.
Thanks!
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 27, 2009 9:29:54am |
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capitalist piglet Wed, May 27, 2009 9:29:59am |
re: #813 Killgore Trout
I did register over there but there are too many banned lizards at Hot Air who hate me. I made a few comments but it's not an interesting blog for me to comment on.
Okay, I see - thanks. There is a little enclave of LGF-haters there...though I have to admit surprise that you would avoid confrontation. ; )
I've just been trying to figure out why you have been criticizing AP here and not there (since it's pretty typical for people to ride his ass even on that site - I don't think he's ever banned anyone for challenging him).
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sattv4u2 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:30:19am |
re: #839 eschew_obfuscation
a warranties go with them regardless of the number of dealers buying them.
I wasn't talking about the warranty per se. I was talking about the overhead (man hours,,, records,,,) in the keeping of 10 different sets as opposed to only 4
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 9:31:59am |
re: #827 sattv4u2
Because some of the dealerships are still owned by the manufacturer, either directly or a franchise as opposed to lets say YOU owning one. If they cut out some of the independents than the "manufactureres owned" lots get a higher percentage of sales
Why does this falsehood keep being tossed around?
None of the automobile manufacturers can legally own an automobile dealership in any of the 50 United States. None. State franchise laws specifically have prohibited this for many decades.
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J.S. Wed, May 27, 2009 9:32:10am |
re: #828 Kenneth
that reminds me of something I heard (spoken by a Brit) on CNN's "Reliable Sources". The topic was the overly emotive "news" journalists and commentators (such as Glenn Beck bursting into tears on air, etc.) The Brit observed (something to the effect, quoting from memory here) that the "stiff upper lip has been replaced by the quivering lower lip.."
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Red Pencil Wed, May 27, 2009 9:32:40am |
re: #825 unreconstructed rebel
Ask yourself this question: What Democrat do you know who would sell cars?
Well, a lot of Democratic politicos seem to be basically used car salesmen who have convinced themselves that politics is a more socially acceptable way of selling creampuffed lemons.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 27, 2009 9:33:08am |
re: #814 Occasional Reader
Once we invent the Zero-Point Module, all this energy talk will become moot.
We never did learn how to make them, and the Ancients didn't leave many behind, barely enough to run the drones to defend Earth from the Goa'uld.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 27, 2009 9:33:47am |
re: #842 eschew_obfuscation
O.K..... the manufacturer-owned dealership makes sense to me. I didn't know that was common in the auto industry.
Thanks!
It is not an option they can use in the United States. Maybe in a foreign country, but due to state franchising laws, they cannot own any of the dealers in the US, period, full stop.
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Son of the Black Dog Wed, May 27, 2009 9:34:55am |
re: #768 eschew_obfuscation
What I don't understand is how cutting dealerships loose helps the manufacturer financially?
I'm told by friends in the auto business that inventory financing doesn't usually come from the manufacturer. Some, if not all, of the dealerships being shut down are not owned by the manufacturer, so it doesn't seem that profitability of the dealerships would be a factor.
Anyone have inside knowledge/understanding of this?
You've got it basically correct. There is no economic rationale for reducing the number of dealers - at least not one I can think of. IMHO, all the cuts in the number of dealerships is going to do is reduce total unit volume for GM and Chrysler. And the auto manufacturing business is all about unit volume.
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capitalist piglet Wed, May 27, 2009 9:35:09am |
re: #843 Occasional Reader
But was it her engagement AK-47?
I would draw the line at the nunchaku. That would just be too damned much.
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Eowyn2 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:35:31am |
re: #808 Kosh's Shadow
I live in a small town (40K+-) Public transportation is completely unreliable. Those 40k people live in about a 8 mile radius from the city center. There is also a military base 10 miles from city center. No current public transportation goes to the airport 5 miles outside city limits. Buses run every 1/2 hour between 7 and 9 AM and 4 and 6 pm else it is every hour. Although they hit the malls, they do not go to the wholesale/processing/industrial areas of town. It is a mile walk to work from the nearest bus stop. that isn't bad in the summer but it is deplorable at 20 below.
I wonder what city planning would do if I tried to build a barn?
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avanti Wed, May 27, 2009 9:39:07am |
re: #805 Ward Cleaver
Wow, he really pranged it. Thank goodness he had good strong rollcage. That bench seat makes me nervous, though. I'd rather have a proper racing seat, so the harness wouldn't have to work so hard to hold me in place.
The new Avanti race car he's building will have a real racing seat, not the one built in 1951. His best run in the Chicken Hawk was 10.28 at 138 MPH, he want to go in the 9's with the Avanti before his 75th birthday. BTW the Studebaker engine survived the crash, and Ted was out of the hospital in under a week.
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eschew_obfuscation Wed, May 27, 2009 9:39:12am |
re: #852 Honorary Yooper
It is not an option they can use in the United States. Maybe in a foreign country, but due to state franchising laws, they cannot own any of the dealers in the US, period, full stop.
O.K......I'm now officially back to "confused".
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Flyers1974 Wed, May 27, 2009 9:41:55am |
re: #825 unreconstructed rebel
Ask yourself this question: What Democrat do you know who would sell cars?
Why wouldn't a Democrat sell cars? Do you mean Democrats are not capitalists?
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Zimriel Wed, May 27, 2009 10:27:15am |
ABCNews headline, currently displayed at AT&T / Yahoo main page:
Sotomayor critics uncover ammunition
Conservatives seize on two moments from the Supreme Court nominee's past.
There are no problems with what is set to add another pro-Kelo vote, in time of recession and Left nationalisation, to a currently divided Supreme Court. These are but two fleeting "moments" from a best-forgotten "past".
There is only "ammunition", unrighteously "seized", by ideologically blind and opportunistic "conservatives".
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abolitionist Wed, May 27, 2009 12:47:27pm |
re: #797 Kenneth
How much energy does it take to mine & process the zinc?
Don't know, but it isn't particularly expensive, and in the process I referenced, it gets recycled. Zinc is the fourth most common metal in use, trailing only iron, aluminium, and copper with an annual production of about 10 million tonnes.
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