Texas School Board Creationist Gets the Boot for Good

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Dentist Don McLeroy, the young earth creationist appointed to head the Texas State Board of Education twice by Republican Governor Rick Perry, has been rejected by the Texas Senate. I see this as very good news, but the Discovery Institute (who pushed hard to get their anti-evolution “academic freedom” language inserted into the state’s curriculum) will probably see it differently.

The Texas Freedom Network live-blogged the proceedings—and sure enough, every single Republican voted for the creationist to be in charge of teaching the children of Texas. The confirmation required a two-thirds majority, and the vote was 19 Republicans for, 11 Democrats against.

The Republican Party invariably chooses to vote against science, and in favor of atavism and young earth creationism — not just in Texas, either. What a sad state of affairs; it’s one reason why the GOP continues to lose elections, and is hemorrhaging voters.

UPDATE at 5/28/09 3:00:19 pm:

Sure enough, the Discovery Institute’s Casey Luskin (who testified in favor of “intelligent design” creationism at recent board hearings on curriculum standards) is already seething and whining about “censorship,” “power grabbing,” the “evolution lobby,” and “indoctrination:” Evolution News & Views: Texas Evolution Lobby Making Power Grabs to Promote Their Censorship Agenda.

In the strange inverted world of the Discovery Institute, a democratic vote in the Texas Senate equals a “power grab.”

UPDATE at 5/28/09 4:41:23 pm:

Hold on before you pop open the champagne, because Republican Governor will now have the chance to pick another chairman for the School Board — and this one won’t have to face the confirmation process until 2011.

Gov. Rick Perry, who nominated McLeroy, will now have to select another member of the board to serve as chairman. Whoever is picked will not have to face Senate confirmation until the 2011 legislative session, unless there is a special session before then.

It’s almost certain that Perry will select another creationist; he did, after all, pick McLeroy not once but twice, even after McLeroy’s Biblical literalist views were notorious. There’s no shortage of creationist Republicans currently on the School Board, so this debacle is going to have another chapter after all.

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641 comments
1 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:52:59pm

Five bucks on #390

2 Sharmuta  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:53:17pm

I believe future economic growth is going to depend a lot on strong American innovations in science and technology to keep us out in front. Anti-science education will damage the possibility for America to be a leader in these fields.

3 Randall Gross  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:53:41pm

Wahoo! But this is why I also predict that Texas will go more grape in 2010.

4 Spare O'Lake  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:54:28pm

Hallelujah!

5 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:55:16pm

I will believe he has been given the boot for good when he has died of old age and is 3 days buried. Until then his return is possible.

6 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:55:47pm

I just saw that, Charles. Here it is in the Dallas Morning News.

7 Randall Gross  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:56:00pm

I saw some speculation however that this wouldn't remove him from the board, just the chair spot, and that the lady who might take over in his place could be worse. I"m headed out to the liveblog to see what's going on about that.

8 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:56:01pm

re: #1 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Five bucks on #390

A beer on: below # 50

9 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:56:22pm

Time for my standard list of favorite ID/Creationist argument links:

reDiscovery Institute (Parody site)

The Holy Book for Turtles-all-the-way-downism (Thanks, jcm!)

Using creationist/ID arguments against them:
Why We Believe in a Designer!
Organisms that Look Designed
Oolon Colluphid's Guide to Creation

Talk.Origins archive

Need To Know: Charles Darwin (5 Minute documentary on Charles Darwin)

People involved in spreading Darwin's discoveries as a philosophy, whom Ben Stein mysteriously neglects to mention:
Ernst Haeckel
William Sumner
Vladmir Ulyanov

Is There An Artifical God? (essay by Douglas Adams)

Get A-Life (essay on using artificial life to study evolution)

Evolution IS a Blind Watchmaker (video about a-life)

Documentaries:
The Day The Universe Changed - "Fit To Rule" (Episode 8)

More evolution documentaries can be found here, including Evolution, Evolve, Human Evolution, Journey of Man, Origins and Why do people laugh at creationists?.

10 middy  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:56:47pm

My grampa was a monkey!

11 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:57:04pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

I believe future economic growth is going to depend a lot on strong American innovations in science and technology to keep us out in front. Anti-science education will damage the possibility for America to be a leader in these fields.

Well, with a lot of the left putting all their eggs in the "green" basket, and another part of the left eschewing a big part of medical science (vaccines) and the right denying a large part of biology, earth, and geological sciences, and their anti-vacer's, things don't look good.

12 Mike Nargizian  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:57:36pm

So you're saying he missed being confirmed by either 1 or 2 votes?
2/3 (20) 2/3+1(21)

13 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:57:49pm

re: #10 middy

My grampa was a monkey!

My great-grampa was a Lemur.

14 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:57:56pm

re: #9 gmsc

Time for my standard list of favorite ID/Creationist argument links:

...and 2 videos to boot:

Evolution

Youtube Video

Open-Mindedness:

Youtube Video
15 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:58:20pm

re: #10 middy

My grampa was a monkey!

Youtube Video
16 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:58:22pm

re: #8 callahan23

A beer on: below # 50

You're on.

17 KingKenrod  Thu, May 28, 2009 2:59:12pm

The GOP doesn't see this as a science issue; it's a social issue of fighting back against liberal hegemony in the schools. It's just as likely to motivate religious conservatives as it is to discourage moderates, and GOP candidates wouldn't be tripping all over themselves to parrot idiot ID talking points if they thought it might hurt them politically. I still think it's a wash and not as important as many other things.

18 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:00:12pm

re: #12 Mike Nargizian

So you're saying he missed being confirmed by either 1 or 2 votes?
2/3 (20) 2/3+1(21)

Correct, but the real point being made by Charles was that ALL the Republicans voted YES, for a person who denies the facts of science and wants to put creationism into school science classes.

Is it clear to you now?

19 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:00:13pm

re: #12 Mike Nargizian

So you're saying he missed being confirmed by either 1 or 2 votes?
2/3 (20) 2/3+1(21)

Basically, yes. It took a 2/3 vote, and he missed it. The other interesting thing is that a Democrat, Eddie Lucio of Brownsville (in the Rio Grande Valley) was present but did not vote. Hmmmm...

20 Kragar  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:00:24pm

re: #13 callahan23

My great-grampa was a Lemur.

I'm part Mongoose!

21 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:00:42pm

re: #17 KingKenrod

The GOP doesn't see this as a science issue;

Nobody else sees ID/creationism as a science issue, either.
;)

22 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:00:56pm

re: #19 Ward Cleaver

Basically, yes. It took a 2/3 vote, and he missed it. The other interesting thing is that a Democrat, Eddie Lucio of Brownsville (in the Rio Grande Valley) was present but did not vote. Hmmmm...

Do you think he's jockeying to be POTUS some day?

/

23 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:00:57pm

re: #16 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You're on.

You should ask "what kind of beer".

For instance, if it's Corona Lite, the loser gets TWO "beers".

24 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:01:11pm

I'd rather be related to a meerkat, they're way cooler than lemurs.

25 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:01:16pm

(hmm, looks like I just MIGHT be owing callahan a beer)

26 Spare O'Lake  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:01:37pm

re: #10 middy

My grampa was a monkey!

And I'll be a monkey's uncle!

27 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:01:50pm

re: #18 Walter L. Newton

Correct, but the real point being made by Charles was that ALL the Republicans voted YES, for a person who denies the facts of science and wants to put creationism into school science classes.

Is it clear to you now?

A bit rude-seeming, since the point of that post MAY have been that it was a near-miss of a thing.

28 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:02:04pm

re: #22 OldLineTexan

Do you think he's jockeying to be POTUS some day?

/

I dunno, but from visiting down there and reading the papers down there, he's a controversial figure.

29 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:02:22pm

re: #27 OldLineTexan

Look at his karma, and his past comments.

30 Querent  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:02:36pm

re: #17 KingKenrod

and that's what's twice as sad...

31 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:02:44pm

re: #15 gmsc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKKv7ZkbiC8

re: #26 Spare O'Lake

And I'll be a monkey's uncle!

GMTA!

32 Sharmuta  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:03:12pm

re: #19 Ward Cleaver

The other interesting thing is that a Democrat, Eddie Lucio of Brownsville (in the Rio Grande Valley) was present but did not vote. Hmmmm...

He's planning on running for president. ;p

33 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:03:16pm

re: #24 Ward Cleaver

I'd rather be related to a meerkat, they're way cooler than lemurs.

But much smaller than a mere kow.........
/

34 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:03:29pm

re: #19 Ward Cleaver

Basically, yes. It took a 2/3 vote, and he missed it. The other interesting thing is that a Democrat, Eddie Lucio of Brownsville (in the Rio Grande Valley) was present but did not vote. Hmmmm...

I am EXTREMELY disappointed that my Senator (Dan Patrick) ignored my advice on this topic and supported this nomination. And he swung as hard the other way as he could.

35 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:03:31pm

re: #23 Occasional Reader

You should ask "what kind of beer".

For instance, if it's Corona Lite, the loser gets TWO "beers".

(Shhh! He's in Germany, and Callahan doesn't know about the secret LizardCode macro that'll also bill his credit card for the winner's airline ticket to the loser's location.)

36 Querent  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:03:42pm

re: #23 Occasional Reader

You should ask "what kind of beer".

For instance, if it's Corona Lite, the loser gets TWO "beers".

but that's not Beer, that's 'cerveza'!

37 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:04:10pm

re: #24 Ward Cleaver

I'd rather be related to a meerkat, they're way cooler than lemurs.

But then, my favorite character in the Madagascar movies is King Julien, and he's a lemur.

38 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:04:28pm

re: #29 Walter L. Newton

Look at his karma, and his past comments.

OK, but (a) I've never seen him before and (b) I don't usually go karma diving on a post like that.

39 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:04:47pm

re: #17 KingKenrod

The GOP doesn't see this as a science issue; it's a social issue of fighting back against liberal hegemony in the schools. It's just as likely to motivate religious conservatives as it is to discourage moderates, and GOP candidates wouldn't be tripping all over themselves to parrot idiot ID talking points if they thought it might hurt them politically. I still think it's a wash and not as important as many other things.

I beg to have an opposing point of view.
As Sharmuta rightly points out it is vitally important for a the future wealth of a nation to stay at least abreast with the latest technology, if not ahead of the curve.
In order to achieve that science education needs to be as top-notch and as widespread as possible.

40 Spare O'Lake  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:05:44pm

Everybody's got something to hide,
Except for me and my monkey

41 Mr Secul  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:05:47pm

Anyone seen this? This site was developed by the Center for Science and Culture at Discovery Institute.

42 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:06:08pm

re: #24 Ward Cleaver

I'd rather be related to a meerkat, they're way cooler than lemurs.

Plus, they're more poetic.

Things fall apart, the center cannot hold;
Meerkat is loosed upon the world...

-W.B. Yeats

43 Querent  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:06:08pm

re: #40 Spare O'Lake
thank you for sharing...

44 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:06:21pm

re: #17 KingKenrod

The GOP doesn't see this as a science issue; it's a social issue of fighting back against liberal hegemony in the schools. It's just as likely to motivate religious conservatives as it is to discourage moderates, and GOP candidates wouldn't be tripping all over themselves to parrot idiot ID talking points if they thought it might hurt them politically. I still think it's a wash and not as important as many other things.

I disagree. The GOP sees this as a religious issue, and the fanaticism of many of the fundamentalist members of the party drives them to support creationism even though they know it hurts them politically -- because they don't care about the political damage.

And it is an important issue.

45 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:07:02pm

re: #36 Querent

but that's not Beer, that's 'cerveza'!

Cerveza means Corona Lite kind of like La Raza means "The People".

46 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:07:20pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

I believe future economic growth is going to depend a lot on strong American innovations in science and technology to keep us out in front. Anti-science education will damage the possibility for America to be a leader in these fields.

Very true, but education in math and science (and most everything else) has already been seriously degraded by the public school bureaucracy.

47 Querent  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:07:29pm

re: #45 Occasional Reader

verdad, amigo!

48 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:07:42pm

I wish there were no hegemony in the schools, from either side.

49 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:07:54pm

My uncle was a Velociraptor. ;)
Hello Lizards great and small.

50 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:07:55pm

re: #45 Occasional Reader

Cerveza means Corona Lite kind of like La Raza means "The People".

The polite term for Corona Lite is agua amarillo.

51 opnion  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:08:04pm

re: #46 Son of the Black Dog

Very true, but education in math and science (and most everything else) has already been seriously degraded by the public school bureaucracy.

They have trouble with the basics.

52 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:08:05pm

re: #36 Querent

but that's not Beer, that's 'cerveza'!

That's piss.

53 Randall Gross  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:08:28pm

re: #17 KingKenrod

The GOP doesn't see this as a science issue; it's a social issue of fighting back against liberal hegemony in the schools. It's just as likely to motivate religious conservatives as it is to discourage moderates, and GOP candidates wouldn't be tripping all over themselves to parrot idiot ID talking points if they thought it might hurt them politically. I still think it's a wash and not as important as many other things.

wrong

3:13 – Sen. Shapleigh brings up McLeroy’s endorsement of a book that says parents who want their kids to learn about evolution are “monsters,” scientists are “atheists,” and clergy who see no conflict between science and faith are “morons.” The senator recounts various board train wrecks, including the sabotaging of nearly three years of work by teachers and specialists to revise the state’s language arts standards. And he notes a particularly troubling quote from McLeroy: “Scientific consensus means nothing.”

54 Mr Secul  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:08:29pm

re: #24 Ward Cleaver

Have you seen this?

55 Querent  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:08:40pm

re: #50 OldLineTexan

The polite term for Corona Lite is agua amarillo.

Urea de Armadillo?

56 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:08:44pm

re: #50 OldLineTexan

The polite term for Corona Lite is agua amarillo.

I thought the correct term was spew.

57 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:08:52pm

re: #41 Mr Secul

Anyone seen this? This site was developed by the Center for Science and Culture at Discovery Institute.

Yes -- the Discovery Institute has completely dropped their pretense that "intelligent design" creationism isn't about religion, and now they're simply denying that there's any possible way to reconcile evolution and religious faith.

58 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:09:24pm

The Disco Institute posted a whiney article regarding this decision. They're calling it "political retribution" by Texas evolutionists and a "power-grab sought by the Texas evolution-lobby." It ends with this paranoid rant:

All this amounts to an attempt to take control of the public school curriculum out of the hands of qualified elected officials and taxpaying and voting parents and put it into the hands of bureaucrats. Once the Texas evolution lobby has total vertical control of the curriculum, they hope to then also control—through indoctrination—the minds of the next generation of voters. Perhaps then Texas evolutionists will feel safe returning power to the people.

The "evolution lobby" will have vertical control of the curriculum and indoctrinate the "minds of the next generation?" This is straight out of a 1950s political sci-fi.

59 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:09:38pm

re: #44 Charles

even though they know it hurts them politically

I wonder, though.

Do you know of a good study on this of some sort? There's the question of how many moderates it drives away, versus how many social conservatives it attracts.

60 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:09:42pm

re: #54 Mr Secul

Have you seen this?

A Russian meerkat? WTH?

61 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:09:55pm

re: #50 OldLineTexan

The polite term for Corona Lite is agua amarillo.

Isn't that horse p*ss in English?

62 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:10:17pm

are they gonna be PISSED when they find out there are Lizards out there or what?

63 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:10:24pm

re: #58 Gus 802

The Disco Institute posted a whiney article regarding this decision. They're calling it "political retribution" by Texas evolutionists and a "power-grab sought by the Texas evolution-lobby." It ends with this paranoid rant:


The "evolution lobby" will have vertical control of the curriculum and indoctrinate the "minds of the next generation?" This is straight out of a 1950s political sci-fi.

They're just mad because they thought of that plan first.

64 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:10:30pm

re: #57 Charles

Yes -- the Discovery Institute has completely dropped their pretense that "intelligent design" creationism isn't about religion, and now they're simply denying that there's any possible way to reconcile evolution and religious faith.

As an atheist, I'll agree with the bolded part.

65 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:11:06pm

I love being part of the "Evolution Lobby," one day I hope to make it up to the "Evolution Penthouse."

66 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:11:18pm

re: #60 Ward Cleaver

A Russian meerkat? WTH?

In a smoking jacket and ascot. Not conducive to feelings of trustworthiness, IMO.

67 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:11:30pm

re: #63 OldLineTexan

They're just mad because they thought of that plan first.

Yeah, they practically invented it.

//All your wedges belong to us!

68 Querent  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:11:37pm

re: #52 Ward Cleaver

That's piss.

a new spin on an old favorite of mine:

Americans: drink weak beer that tastes like urine
Canadians: drink strong beer that tastes like urine
Britishers: drink warm beer that tastes like urine
Mexicans: Corona, amigo -- it's Spanish for urine

69 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:12:00pm

re: #65 CyanSnowHawk

I love being part of the "Evolution Lobby," one day I hope to make it up to the "Evolution Penthouse."

...currently being occupied by Ida.
;)

70 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:12:13pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

As an atheist, I'll agree with the bolded part.

As a Christian, I have no trouble accomplishing just that.

I guess I am really smart or really stupid.

71 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:13:06pm

re: #70 OldLineTexan

As a Christian, I have no trouble accomplishing just that.

I guess I am really smart or really stupid.

FTFY

72 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:13:36pm

re: #71 callahan23

FTFY

Thank you, but you have apparently never spoken with my wife.

/

73 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:13:37pm

re: #58 Gus 802

The Disco Institute posted a whiney article regarding this decision. They're calling it "political retribution" by Texas evolutionists and a "power-grab sought by the Texas evolution-lobby." It ends with this paranoid rant:

The "evolution lobby" will have vertical control of the curriculum and indoctrinate the "minds of the next generation?" This is straight out of a 1950s political sci-fi.

Yes, 1950s, but not sci-fi.
The John Birch Society.

74 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:13:43pm

re: #70 OldLineTexan

As a Christian, I have no trouble accomplishing just that.

I guess I am really smart or really stupid.

I will go with smart, you wont drink horse piss. ;)

75 Randall Gross  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:13:46pm

If this were about stopping the leftist agenda then Discovery Institute would be spending their millions fighting deconstructionism in history and social studies courses rather than spending their millions attacking science like the luddite morons they are.

It's all about religion, and in particular their religion, which the wedge document explicitly points out.

76 SixDegrees  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:13:54pm

re: #39 callahan23

I beg to have an opposing point of view.
As Sharmuta rightly points out it is vitally important for a the future wealth of a nation to stay at least abreast with the latest technology, if not ahead of the curve.
In order to achieve that science education needs to be as top-notch and as widespread as possible.

Even more important when you take into consideration that biological science is poised to be the Next Big Thing financially. It's awfully tough to call winners in such instances, of course, but there is currently very rapid development in all kinds of biological fields that is converging to produce useful products, processes, disease treatments and preventatives and more. The next quarter century may very well be fueled economically through the advancement and growth of bioengineering firms of various descriptions.

And a nation of slack-jawed morons taught since middle school that the earth is 6000 years old and that every living thing on it appeared with a sudden "Poof!" and they should just shut up and say their prayers instead of raising questions that will send them to Hell where they will burn in agony and torment for all eternity is not going to produce the kind of populace that will be able to benefit from such an economic shift.

77 Mr Secul  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:14:07pm

re: #60 Ward Cleaver

Its an advert for the car insurance website. It was accompanied by very funny TV ads in the UK.

78 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:14:34pm

re: #70 OldLineTexan

As a Christian, I have no trouble accomplishing just that.

I guess I am really smart or really stupid.

My point being, as an atheist, I don't think there is any way to merge creationism with evolution, I don't believe evolution was put into motion by any sort of god.

But I have no problem with a religionist believing that God was the creator of evolution.

I do have a problem with any creationist trying to tell me evolution does not exist.

79 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:14:34pm

re: #57 Charles

Yes -- the Discovery Institute has completely dropped their pretense that "intelligent design" creationism isn't about religion, and now they're simply denying that there's any possible way to reconcile evolution and religious faith.

I heard Dr. Francis Collins (former head of the Human Genome Project) on Catholic radio last week, and he didn't see any problem reconciling evolution (even going all the way back to the Big Bang) and the Catholic faith.

80 Salamantis  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:14:40pm

re: #58 Gus 802

The Disco Institute posted a whiney article regarding this decision. They're calling it "political retribution" by Texas evolutionists and a "power-grab sought by the Texas evolution-lobby." It ends with this paranoid rant:

All this amounts to an attempt to take control of the public school curriculum out of the hands of qualified elected officials and taxpaying and voting parents and put it into the hands of bureaucrats. Once the Texas evolution lobby has total vertical control of the curriculum, they hope to then also control—through indoctrination—the minds of the next generation of voters. Perhaps then Texas evolutionists will feel safe returning power to the people.

The "evolution lobby" will have vertical control of the curriculum and indoctrinate the "minds of the next generation?" This is straight out of a 1950s political sci-fi.

They're just whining, bitching and moaning because this means that they don't have control of the school curriculum, and thus don't get to indoctrinate the next generation in their pet religious dogmas.

81 Idle Drifter  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:14:55pm

re: #68 Querent

a new spin on an old favorite of mine:

Americans: drink weak beer that tastes like urine
Canadians: drink strong beer that tastes like urine
Britishers: drink warm beer that tastes like urine
Mexicans: Corona, amigo -- it's Spanish for urine

Where the hell are you getting your beer?

82 Querent  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:15:02pm

re: #76 SixDegrees
i regret that i have but one upding (per sock puppet) to give for that post.

Especially for the last sentence.

83 SixDegrees  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:15:37pm

re: #41 Mr Secul

Anyone seen this? This site was developed by the Center for Science and Culture at Discovery Institute.

The words "steaming pile" leap to mind.

84 Dianna  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:15:46pm

re: #80 Salamantis

They're just whining, bitching and moaning because this means that they don't have control of the school curriculum, and thus don't get to indoctrinate the next generation in their pet religious dogmas.

It definitely reads that way.

It's also really stupid.

Anyway, I'm out.

85 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:16:00pm

re: #83 SixDegrees

The words "steaming pile" leap to mind.

"Steaming pile" of what?

86 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:16:07pm

re: #77 Mr Secul

Its an advert for the car insurance website. It was accompanied by very funny TV ads in the UK.

I gathered that. The Web site looks like one of those where you can compare rates from different companies.

87 Querent  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:16:15pm

re: #81 Idle Drifter

Where the hell are you getting your beer?


nowhere -- i never touch the stuff!

88 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:16:34pm

re: #35 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(Shhh! He's in Germany, and Callahan doesn't know about the secret LizardCode macro that'll also bill his credit card for the winner's airline ticket to the loser's location.)

BTW, I heard that.
Ksh sssszzzzz all air-locks are moving shut. Net-connections are on triple alert and the red-shirt already shit his pants.
;-)

89 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:16:39pm

re: #73 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes, 1950s, but not sci-fi.
The John Birch Society.

Right. I was trying to think of that propaganda film that was posted here at LGF several weeks ago. By some pastor and directed by some former "exploitation film" director. It was about Communists taking over America. Real campy film. Not sci-fi.

90 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:16:40pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

As an atheist, I'll agree with the bolded part.

As a believer in what might be called "Big Bang creation", I have no problem at all in believing in both divine "Creation" and evolution.

91 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:16:49pm

re: #74 DEZes

I will go with smart, you wont drink horse piss. ;)

That's the old "Billy Beer" joke!

The Miller Brewing Co. sent a sample to Texas A&M for analysis, but did it anonymously so as to avoid bad press. Their reply was "Dear Sir: This is an agricultural products laboratory, so we could not complete your requested analysis. However, we sent your horse urine sample to the School of Veterinary Medicine. Although we are sure you will receive a report from them, we felt obligated to inform you that your horse has diabetes."

92 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:17:30pm

re: #78 Walter L. Newton

My point being, as an atheist, I don't think there is any way to merge creationism with evolution, I don't believe evolution was put into motion by any sort of god.

But I have no problem with a religionist believing that God was the creator of evolution.

I do have a problem with any creationist trying to tell me evolution does not exist.

It only bothers me under the guise of education. On a street corner, I don't care.

93 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:18:03pm

re: #52 Ward Cleaver

That's piss.

Usually referred to as a "Pre-consumed" beverage.

94 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:18:13pm

re: #90 pre-Boomer Marine brat

As a believer in what might be called "Big Bang creation", I have no problem at all in believing in both divine "Creation" and evolution.

I know, and that's fine. But the DI is dropping all pretense lately and basically saying there is no such thing as evolution and creation is the only answer.

I have no note with that shit.

95 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:18:19pm

Uh oh, here come the Aggie jokes. McLeroy, BTW, is a dentist in Bryan-College Station.

96 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:18:30pm

is there a link to where we might go to show thanks for this decision? this guy was even to crazy for texas; HOOK 'EM HORNS!

97 Dianna  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:18:32pm

Oh, sorry - I meant to enter my afternoon sign-off separately. Also to remark that I'm not going to be around much for a while.

My absence doesn't mean I don't care, it means I'm in the grip of impending disaster.

This is not a new thing in my life, though it is unusual that said disaster is neither my own, nor of my own device.

That's the only reason it's worth commenting on.

98 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:19:02pm

re: #93 CyanSnowHawk

Usually referred to as a "Pre-consumed" beverage.

Triple-filtered. First through a skunk, then...

99 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:19:48pm

re: #97 Dianna

Oh, sorry - I meant to enter my afternoon sign-off separately. Also to remark that I'm not going to be around much for a while.

My absence doesn't mean I don't care, it means I'm in the grip of impending disaster.

This is not a new thing in my life, though it is unusual that said disaster is neither my own, nor of my own device.

That's the only reason it's worth commenting on.

Get back as soon as you can, you will be missed until then.

100 Randall Gross  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:20:05pm

OT

The new prom queen is a guy:

[Link: www.nbclosangeles.com...]

101 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:20:12pm

re: #97 Dianna

I will miss you. Thoughts and prayers in your direction.

102 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:20:21pm

re: #58 Gus 802

The Disco Institute posted a whiney article regarding this decision. They're calling it "political retribution" by Texas evolutionists and a "power-grab sought by the Texas evolution-lobby." It ends with this paranoid rant:

The "evolution lobby" will have vertical control of the curriculum and indoctrinate the "minds of the next generation?" This is straight out of a 1950s political sci-fi.

Somebody call the waaaaaamublance.

103 Querent  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:20:23pm

re: #97 Dianna

oh no -- take care and you'll be in our thoughts / prayers / meditations...

104 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:20:33pm

Callahan, Boomer is getting thirsty. ;)

105 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:20:35pm

re: #92 OldLineTexan

I was a little vague there, wasn't I. I'm saying, I don't believe in anything, fine. But I can respect if someone believes a god was the instigator of evolution, through his creation.

But, I want the same respect from the other side, which the DI institute will not give me.

106 KingKenrod  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:20:45pm

re: #75 Thanos

If this were about stopping the leftist agenda then Discovery Institute would be spending their millions fighting deconstructionism in history and social studies courses rather than spending their millions attacking science like the luddite morons they are.

It's all about religion, and in particular their religion, which the wedge document explicitly points out.

I think the religious right conflates evolution and the leftist agenda. The see evolution as a secular humanist commie plot (and thus borne of the devil), not as a theory to be proven or invalidated in some logical way.

107 SixDegrees  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:20:49pm

re: #85 Walter L. Newton

"Steaming pile" of what?

Several things leap to mind. None of them pleasant.

"A steaming pile of writhing, naked women moaning my name" was definitely not one of them, for instance.

108 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:20:52pm

re: #97 Dianna

Best wishes 'n all the luck.

109 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:20:55pm

re: #57 Charles

Yes -- the Discovery Institute has completely dropped their pretense that "intelligent design" creationism isn't about religion, and now they're simply denying that there's any possible way to reconcile evolution and religious faith.

Well, they join the rest of the weirdos in Seattle that want to deny reality.

110 Yashmak  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:21:05pm

re: #78 Walter L. Newton


I do have a problem with any creationist trying to tell me evolution does not exist.

I'd add that I DEFINITELY have a problem with a creationist trying to force that belief on my child through the public school system.

111 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:21:16pm

re: #97 Dianna

Oh, sorry - I meant to enter my afternoon sign-off separately. Also to remark that I'm not going to be around much for a while.

My absence doesn't mean I don't care, it means I'm in the grip of impending disaster.

This is not a new thing in my life, though it is unusual that said disaster is neither my own, nor of my own device.

That's the only reason it's worth commenting on.

Prayers coming your way, Dianna. I've always appreciated your updings, BTW.

112 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:21:37pm

re: #107 SixDegrees

Several things leap to mind. None of them pleasant.

"A steaming pile of writhing, naked women moaning my name" was definitely not one of them, for instance.

Darn!

113 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:21:37pm

re: #97 Dianna

{Dianna} Take care!

114 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:21:53pm

re: #102 Ward Cleaver

Somebody call the waaaaaamublance.

Hell no. Make 'em walk ... that's why God gave 'em legs!

115 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:21:56pm

re: #107 SixDegrees

Several things leap to mind. None of them pleasant.

"A steaming pile of writhing, naked women moaning my name" was definitely not one of them, for instance.

Funny, that was the first thing that came to my mind.

116 Salamantis  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:21:57pm

re: #79 Ward Cleaver

I heard Dr. Francis Collins (former head of the Human Genome Project) on Catholic radio last week, and he didn't see any problem reconciling evolution (even going all the way back to the Big Bang) and the Catholic faith.

Evolution doesn't GO 'all the way back to the Big Bang'. Stars and galaxies, and in fact the Universe itself, do not evolve; they have 'life' cycles. Evolution only comes into play when populations of organisms possessing high but imperfect copying fidelity are confronted by specific environments possessing particular challenges and opportunities. Only then do we have random genetic mutations nonrandomly selected by environments.

117 Yashmak  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:22:08pm

re: #57 Charles

Yes -- the Discovery Institute has completely dropped their pretense that "intelligent design" creationism isn't about religion, and now they're simply denying that there's any possible way to reconcile evolution and religious faith.

Someone should notify the Pope. . .he's apparently unaware of that:)

118 eon  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:22:16pm

re: #89 Gus 802

Right. I was trying to think of that propaganda film that was posted here at LGF several weeks ago. By some pastor and directed by some former "exploitation film" director. It was about Communists taking over America. Real campy film. Not sci-fi.

Would that be "Red Nightmare", directed by George Waggner, narrated by Jack Webb?

/Neither one was a pastor. Or a choirboy, for that matter.

cheers

eon

119 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:22:22pm

re: #107 SixDegrees

Several things leap to mind. None of them pleasant.

"A steaming pile of writhing, naked women moaning my name" was definitely not one of them, for instance.

My luck was never that good.

120 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:22:30pm

re: #102 Ward Cleaver

Somebody call the waaaaaamublance.

Heads explode!

We now await word from Robert Bowie Johnson, Jr.

121 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:22:41pm

re: #37 Ward Cleaver

But then, my favorite character in the Madagascar movies is King Julien, and he's a lemur.

Self-proclaimed Lord of the Lemurs!

(Gawd, I love that scene where they're holding a town meeting in the crashed plane up in the tree, and Julian is using the dead pilot's arm as a pointer...)

122 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:22:49pm

re: #94 Walter L. Newton

I know, and that's fine. But the DI is dropping all pretense lately and basically saying there is no such thing as evolution and creation is the only answer.

I have no note with that shit.

It's all cool.
I saw your subsequent post, where you got specific regarding creationism (using it to describe the current Movement, as in Creationism.)

123 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:23:03pm

re: #118 eon

Would that be "Red Nightmare", directed by George Waggner, narrated by Jack Webb?

/Neither one was a pastor. Or a choirboy, for that matter.

cheers

eon

This one:

If Footmen Tire You, What Will Horses Do

124 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:23:28pm

re: #116 Salamantis

Evolution doesn't GO 'all the way back to the Big Bang'. Stars and galaxies, and in fact the Universe itself, do not evolve; they have 'life' cycles. Evolution only comes into play when populations of organisms possessing high but imperfect copying fidelity are confronted by specific environments possessing particular challenges and opportunities. Only then do we have random genetic mutations nonrandomly selected by environments.

Sorry, I was trying to make the point that he rejects all the DI crap, and doesn't see any conflict between evolution and faith.

125 Yashmak  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:23:30pm

re: #97 Dianna


My absence doesn't mean I don't care, it means I'm in the grip of impending disaster..

Sorry to hear about your troubles!
I hope it all works out for you Dianna.

126 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:23:36pm

re: #95 Ward Cleaver

Uh oh, here come the Aggie jokes. McLeroy, BTW, is a dentist in Bryan-College Station.

"Green side up!"

127 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:23:42pm

And ID crap.

128 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:24:06pm

re: #105 Walter L. Newton

Respect is hard to come by in these campaigns. I have noticed that opposing other crusades, notably anti-gun anti-rights enthusiasts.

129 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:24:11pm

re: #98 Ward Cleaver

Triple-filtered. First through a skunk, then...

Moosehead perfected that skunk filtering.

130 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:24:15pm

re: #104 DEZes

Callahan, Boomer is getting thirsty. ;)

You are right.
Sorry:
re: #90 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Here is your long awaited Beer ------------------------>
------------------------------------------------>
Take two of 'em.

131 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:24:19pm

re: #126 pre-Boomer Marine brat

"Green side up!"

"He spent all night in a warehouse."

132 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:24:24pm

re: #117 Yashmak

Someone should notify the Pope. . .he's apparently unaware of that:)

I can almost guarantee you the DI holds NO regard to what the Pope or Catholicism has to say on the matter. They are unrepentant narrowly defined religious dogma Evangelicals who are as power-hungry as the Taliban and Jihadis.

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:24:25pm

re: #76 SixDegrees


And a nation of slack-jawed morons taught since middle school that the earth is 6000 years old and that every living thing on it appeared with a sudden "Poof!" and they should just shut up and say their prayers instead of raising questions that will send them to Hell where they will burn in agony and torment for all eternity is not going to produce the kind of populace that will be able to benefit from such an economic shift.

To quote Stephen Colbert--"The universe is 6000 years old! Always has been! Always will be!"

134 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:24:29pm

I'm not out of here yet, but this afternoon I'm taking a walk on Mount Falcon. One of the benefits of living in Jefferson Country in Colorado, more public trails then most places in the country.

[Link: www.co.jefferson.co.us...]

135 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:24:36pm

re: #126 pre-Boomer Marine brat

"Green side up!"

Yeah, or the Aggie who came in 2nd at the Indy 500? Lost 1st place because he kept stopping to ask for directions.

136 Mr Secul  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:24:36pm

re: #86 Ward Cleaver

I've never clicked on the comparethemarket link. I prefer to compare meerkats.

137 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:24:48pm

re: #2 Sharmuta we will bringing well deserved ridicule to ourselves from foreign competitors who will benefit from us being "perceived" as anit-science; on another note, is it true that there is a strong pro-creationism movement afoot in SC lege?(think i might have seen that somewhere)or maybe it was the OK lege?

138 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:25:02pm

re: #100 Thanos

OT

The new prom queen is a guy:

[Link: www.nbclosangeles.com...]

Given the number of Queens in LA it was bound to happen sooner or later.

139 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:25:02pm

re: #97 Dianna

Oh, sorry - I meant to enter my afternoon sign-off separately. Also to remark that I'm not going to be around much for a while.

My absence doesn't mean I don't care, it means I'm in the grip of impending disaster.

This is not a new thing in my life, though it is unusual that said disaster is neither my own, nor of my own device.

That's the only reason it's worth commenting on.

{Dianna}
Best wishes, through the empending ....

140 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:25:04pm

re: #65 CyanSnowHawk

I love being part of the "Evolution Lobby," one day I hope to make it up to the "Evolution Penthouse."

Dear Evolution Penthouse Forum:

I am a transitional fossil in a small Midwestern college. I always thought these letters were faked, and never dreamed that this kind of thing would happen to me...

141 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:25:20pm

re: #130 callahan23

You are right.
Sorry:
re: #90 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Here is your long awaited Beer ------------------------>
------------------------------------------------>
Take two of 'em.

Interception by Dez.
Hehehe.

142 eon  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:25:20pm

re: #97 Dianna

We're thinking of you. Stay strong.

cheers

eon

143 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:25:21pm

re: #132 FurryOldGuyJeans

I can almost guarantee you the DI holds NO regard to what the Pope or Catholicism has to say on the matter. They are unrepentant narrowly defined religious dogma Evangelicals who are as power-hungry as the Taliban and Jihadis.

Short of whacking off head, yes, they are at least as dogmatic as the groups you mention.

144 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:25:49pm

re: #69 gmsc

...currently being occupied by Ida.
;)

I spotted a photo of the little girl the fossil is named for. She's extremely cute too.

145 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:26:14pm

re: #104 DEZes

Callahan, Boomer is getting thirsty. ;)

*hot sun blazing down*
*gasping*
*clawing at the monitor*

146 Randall Gross  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:26:15pm

re: #106 KingKenrod

I think the religious right conflates evolution and the leftist agenda. The see evolution as a secular humanist commie plot (and thus borne of the devil), not as a theory to be proven or invalidated in some logical way.

I know exactly how the religious kooks get there, but don't conflate the kooks with the entire religious right because that's a lie, it's only some of the religious right.

I will point at Sharmuta and Reine, both definitely right, both religious.

147 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:26:28pm

re: #123 Gus 802

This one:

If Footmen Tire You, What Will Horses Do

Horses will piss in Corona bottles?

148 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:26:47pm

re: #147 Ward Cleaver

Horses will piss in Corona bottles?

No, they've got standards.

149 SixDegrees  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:26:51pm

re: #119 DEZes

My luck was never that good.

Mine neither. If the DI were to throw something like that at me, I would valiantly try to resist, but I'm not sure how long I would last.

I sense, however, that long, intensive training through repeated exposure might toughen my resolve, despite the long string of inevitable failures that would occur along the way.

150 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:27:12pm

re: #147 Ward Cleaver

Horses will piss in Corona bottles?

Exactly.

//Don't let anyone know about this.

151 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:27:27pm

re: #143 Walter L. Newton

Short of whacking off head, yes, they are at least as dogmatic as the groups you mention.

Considering some of the rhetoric I hear how some Evangelicals would treat homosexuals, or anyone who doesn't believe exactly as they do, head-chopping is only waiting for the takeover.

152 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:27:29pm

re: #89 Gus 802

Right. I was trying to think of that propaganda film that was posted here at LGF several weeks ago. By some pastor and directed by some former "exploitation film" director. It was about Communists taking over America. Real campy film. Not sci-fi.

Oh, you mean the wonderful films of the great Estus Pirkle:

Youtube Video
153 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:27:48pm

re: #149 SixDegrees

Mine neither. If the DI were to throw something like that at me, I would valiantly try to resist, but I'm not sure how long I would last.

I sense, however, that long, intensive training through repeated exposure might toughen my resolve, despite the long string of inevitable failures that would occur along the way.

No, take it from one who knows from experience - the training won't attain the desired effect.

154 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:27:56pm

re: #147 Ward Cleaver

Horses will piss in Corona bottles?

Yes. At the bottling plant, I believe......

155 Yashmak  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:28:02pm

re: #132 FurryOldGuyJeans

I can almost guarantee you the DI holds NO regard to what the Pope or Catholicism has to say on the matter. They are unrepentant narrowly defined religious dogma Evangelicals who are as power-hungry as the Taliban and Jihadis.

Unfortunately, I suspect you're probably right.

156 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:28:03pm

re: #152 Charles

Oh, you mean the wonderful films of the great Estus Pirkle:


[Video]

Exactly.

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:28:14pm

re: #107 SixDegrees

Several things leap to mind. None of them pleasant.

"A steaming pile of writhing, naked women moaning my name" was definitely not one of them, for instance.

I saw Frida for the first time last night, BTW. Oh Good Lord. Talk about naked women.

158 John Neverbend  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:28:15pm

re: #41 Mr Secul

Anyone seen this? This site was developed by the Center for Science and Culture at Discovery Institute.

They are taking issue with Francis Collins. His site is more reasonable and can be found at Biologos.

159 ArmyWife  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:28:40pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

This couldn't be more true, but will not be automatic with removing Creationism from science class (though that is a step in the right direction). Until we understand throwing money at a failing government program is not and won't be the solution, our education system will continue to decline. The answer lies in removing Union rule, removing liberal silly speak along with religious silly speak and getting back to educating: Science, Math, English, History, and select electives that assist the learning process such as foreign language, music, art.

160 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:28:43pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

I saw Frida for the first time last night, BTW. Oh Good Lord. Talk about naked women.

With unibrows?

161 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:28:46pm

re: #148 Guanxi88

No, they've got standards.

If you've ever wondered where Budweiser Draft comes from, it obviously comes out of the Budweiser Draft Horses.

162 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:28:48pm

re: #145 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*hot sun blazing down*
*gasping*
*clawing at the monitor*


See my:
re: #130 callahan23

Here you go again:
Here is your long awaited Beer ------------------------>
------------------------------------------------>
Take two of 'em.

163 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:29:00pm

re: #152 Charles

Oh, you mean the wonderful films of the great Estus Pirkle:


[Video]

And if you look closely at the arm band you'll notice it's really a backwards "E." "E" for "Evolutionist!"

////

164 kynna  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:29:10pm

re: #97 Dianna

((((Dianna))))

Best of luck. You'll be in my prayers.

165 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:29:46pm

re: #155 Yashmak

Unfortunately, I suspect you're probably right.

It may be true, but it's not the root of the disagrement with the Papacy.

166 Kragar  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:29:50pm

re: #140 Occasional Reader

Dear Evolution Penthouse Forum:

I am a transitional fossil in a small Midwestern college. I always thought these letters were faked, and never dreamed that this kind of thing would happen to me...

There were too of them, one Australopithecus afarensis, the other Australopithecus africanus, and both of them Australopithecus afa-hotness.

167 ArmyWife  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:29:54pm

re: #97 Dianna

I will think about you and will be here if you need to vent across the interwebs.

168 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:30:03pm

re: #150 Gus 802

Exactly.

//Don't let anyone know about this.

Corona literally smell like skunk piss.
And its done on purpose.

169 eon  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:30:17pm

Well, I'm off for tonight. See you later.

Good night, Lizards.

And remember....

Where those great huskies go
Don't you eat no yellow snow

cheers

eon

170 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:30:39pm

re: #168 DEZes

Corona literally smell like skunk piss.
And its done on purpose.

That's why they put a lime in it. To mask the taste.
:)

171 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:31:04pm

re: #168 DEZes

Corona literally smell like skunk piss.
And its done on purpose.

What about Moosehead beer?

//Cough.

172 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:31:04pm

re: #168 DEZes

Corona literally smell like skunk piss.
And its done on purpose.

Nature's way of warning against drinking it.

173 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:31:22pm

re: #152 Charles

Estus Pirkle?

Name like that he should have been in the NFL.

174 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:31:33pm

re: #170 LGoPs

That's why they put a lime in it. To mask the taste.
:)

That's actually some useful piece of knowledge!

175 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:31:39pm

re: #130 callahan23

You are right.
Sorry:
re: #90 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Here is your long awaited Beer ------------------------>
------------------------------------------------>
Take two of 'em.

*gulp*
*gulp*
*THUD*
/cheap drunk

176 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:31:44pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

Talk about naked women.

Okay, if you say so.

I'm in favor of 'em, myself.

177 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:31:58pm

re: #171 Gus 802

What about Moosehead beer?

//Cough.

Never tried it. ;)

178 SixDegrees  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:32:02pm

re: #153 Guanxi88

No, take it from one who knows from experience - the training won't attain the desired effect.

I think it's my duty to try, nonetheless.

179 ShanghaiEd  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:32:19pm

re: #46 Son of the Black Dog

Very true, but education in math and science (and most everything else) has already been seriously degraded by the public school bureaucracy.

So, we might as well degrade it a little bit more with creationism? /

180 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:32:25pm

re: #131 Ward Cleaver

"He spent all night in a warehouse."

heh, I've never heard that one.

181 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:32:30pm

re: #151 FurryOldGuyJeans

Considering some of the rhetoric I hear how some Evangelicals would treat homosexuals, or anyone who doesn't believe exactly as they do, head-chopping is only waiting for the takeover.

Bullshit. This is still America.

182 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:32:35pm

re: #177 DEZes

Never tried it. ;)

I tried it.

Once.

183 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:32:54pm

re: #174 callahan23

That's actually some useful piece of knowledge!

I remember that Germans would put a slice of lemon in wheat beer (heffeweizen, I think I spelled it close).
never much cared for wheat beer though......

184 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:32:56pm

re: #178 SixDegrees

I think it's my duty to try, nonetheless.

That's why I persist in it.

185 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:33:05pm

re: #175 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*gulp*
*gulp*
*THUD*
/cheap drunk

I let those two get past me, darn.

186 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:33:12pm

The DI is only opposed to an Islamic Theocracy. Their vision of Christian Theocracy is "God's Will".

187 Salamantis  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:33:14pm

I think that improvement in our childrens' ability to use what education they receive depends upon them being able to correctly and efficiently sift through all the conflicting information with which they are currently inundated, and having the capacity to winnow out the empirically false and the logically self-contradictory.

This is why I think that it is important to furnish them with the cognitive tools with which to do this, and why I think that they should be taught both the scientific method of verification/falsification and Aristotelian logic in middle school. Such classes should not be electives; they should be mandatory.

188 Sharmuta  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:33:40pm

re: #146 Thanos

I know exactly how the religious kooks get there, but don't conflate the kooks with the entire religious right because that's a lie, it's only some of the religious right.

I will point at Sharmuta and Reine, both definitely right, both religious.

Reine and I know religion and science don't have to be in conflict.

Additionally, neither Reine nor I want these people taking our rights away from us. Both her and I want the right to teach our children the faith of our choice, not the faith of some school board member.

189 Idle Drifter  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:33:53pm

re: #154 LGoPs

re: #147 Ward Cleaver

Horses will piss in Corona bottles?


Yes. At the bottling plant, I believe......

Oh, come on guys you know the horses don't piss directly into the bottles. That causes some major slip hazards. They got vacuum hoses for the horses these days.///

190 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:33:53pm

re: #176 Occasional Reader

Okay, if you say so.

I'm in favor of 'em, myself.

Welcome them with open arms, I do.

191 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:34:18pm

re: #181 Walter L. Newton

Bullshit. This is still America.

Bullshit it may be, but there is no denying what they want to do to make America more "Godly".

192 Sharmuta  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:34:47pm

re: #188 Sharmuta

Reine and I know religion and science don't have to be in conflict.

Additionally, neither Reine nor I want these people taking our rights away from us. Both her and I want the right to teach our children the faith of our choice, not the faith of some school board member.

And yes- I've seen enough of Reine's feelings on this matter to feel comfortable saying this about her position.

193 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:35:09pm

re: #185 DEZes

I let those two get past me, darn.

Hang on just a sec, one of em's comin' back up.
/hold out your hands

194 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:35:17pm

re: #188 Sharmuta

Reine and I know religion and science don't have to be in conflict.

Additionally, neither Reine nor I want these people taking our rights away from us. Both her and I want the right to teach our children the faith of our choice, not the faith of some school board member.

YESSUM! Right on target (glad I dropped in).

195 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:35:42pm

re: #179 ShanghaiEd

So, we might as well degrade it a little bit more with creationism? /

Post No. 159 said it much better than I can.

re: #159 ArmyWife

This couldn't be more true, but will not be automatic with removing Creationism from science class (though that is a step in the right direction). Until we understand throwing money at a failing government program is not and won't be the solution, our education system will continue to decline. The answer lies in removing Union rule, removing liberal silly speak along with religious silly speak and getting back to educating: Science, Math, English, History, and select electives that assist the learning process such as foreign language, music, art.

196 Sharmuta  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:35:45pm

re: #194 reine.de.tout

Me too! {Reine} Peace be with you. :)

197 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:36:03pm

re: #193 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hang on just a sec, one of em's comin' back up.
/hold out your hands

Put it back in the bottle, we can sell it to a troll.

198 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:36:12pm

re: #192 Sharmuta

And yes- I've seen enough of Reine's feelings on this matter to feel comfortable saying this about her position.

You can add me to the list also, Sharm.

199 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:36:33pm

re: #146 Thanos

I know exactly how the religious kooks get there, but don't conflate the kooks with the entire religious right because that's a lie, it's only some of the religious right.

I will point at Sharmuta and Reine, both definitely right, both religious.

Thank you, Thanos, for the clarification.

200 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:36:45pm

re: #183 LGoPs

I remember that Germans would put a slice of lemon in wheat beer (Hefeweizen, I think I spelled it close).
never much cared for wheat beer though......

FTFY, very close.
I also don't fancy that type of beer. Too thick for my palate.
Ice cold 'n bitter 's right for me.

201 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:36:48pm

re: #188 Sharmuta

Reine and I know religion and science don't have to be in conflict.

Additionally, neither Reine nor I want these people taking our rights away from us. Both her and I want the right to teach our children the faith of our choice, not the faith of some school board member.

Me, I want atheism to be enforced through ruthless violence.

DEATH TO THE UNBELIEVERS IN NON-BELIEF!

202 Salamantis  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:37:12pm

re: #151 FurryOldGuyJeans

Considering some of the rhetoric I hear how some Evangelicals would treat homosexuals, or anyone who doesn't believe exactly as they do, head-chopping is only waiting for the takeover.

Well first, the Dominionists have to raise themselves up a crop of fundie-friendly voters who are willing to replace the US Constitution with the Bible, and civil and criminal law with a Christofundie version of sharia.

Which is, of course, their whole rationale behind trying to shoehorn their pet religious dogmas into public high school science classes.

203 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:37:19pm

re: #169 eon

Well, I'm off for tonight. See you later.

Good night, Lizards.

And remember....

Where those great huskies go
Don't you eat no yellow snow

cheers

eon

Nice, how you sled that one in.

204 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:37:30pm

re: #200 callahan23

FTFY, very close.
I also don't fancy that type of beer. Too thick for my palate.
Ice cold 'n bitter 's right for me.

I like dunkel and ault beers as well.......
Yum.

205 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:37:30pm

re: #200 callahan23


Ice cold 'n bitter 's right for me.

Oh, you'd like my ex, then.

206 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:38:25pm

re: #201 Occasional Reader

Me, I want atheism to be enforced through ruthless violence.

DEATH TO THE UNBELIEVERS IN NON-BELIEF!

Oh, har-de-har-har.

207 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:38:30pm

We have a writhing naked lady creationist on the sidewalk beer thread. whew.

208 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:38:57pm

re: #207 DEZes

We have a writhing naked lady creationist on the sidewalk beer thread. whew.

Must be a wild bar.

209 ShanghaiEd  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:38:57pm

re: #41 Mr Secul

Anyone seen this? This site was developed by the Center for Science and Culture at Discovery Institute.

Thanks for the link; I hadn't seen that.

Among the scary stuff: a podcast about a college student who killed himself because (?) he read Dawkins' book The God Delusion.

Do they have no shame?

210 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:39:05pm

re: #205 Guanxi88

Oh, you'd like my ex, then.

"Stout and flat" isn't a good combo, either.

211 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:39:13pm

re: #160 OldLineTexan

With unibrows?

I do keep wanting to pluck and shape Salma, yes. Alternatively, I could just let my own unibrow go, but my husband hates it.

212 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:39:55pm

re: #202 Salamantis

Well first, the Dominionists have to raise themselves up a crop of fundie-friendly voters who are willing to replace the US Constitution with the Bible, and civil and criminal law with a Christofundie version of sharia.

Which is, of course, their whole rationale behind trying to shoehorn their pet religious dogmas into public high school science classes.

I never said it would be an easy takeover, but one fundie I dealt with envisioned an Apocalyptic war with God as the General decimating all who believed differently, even other Christian sects.

Now that was one wasted afternoon I'll never get back.

213 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:40:15pm

re: #206 reine.de.tout

Oh, har-de-har-har.

That laugh just didn't sound very geniune to me. Call it an instinct.

214 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:40:15pm

re: #205 Guanxi88

Oh, you'd like my ex, then.

Ooh, I'm sorry for your former situation.
(Was that a messed up English or what?)

215 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:41:14pm

Yikes. This was a straight party line vote too. All of the Republicans voted for McLeroy.

216 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:41:17pm

re: #214 callahan23

Ooh, I'm sorry for your former situation.
(Was that a messed up English or what?)

Hey, I'm not sorry. I dodged a bullet, I tell you what. If I'd ending up marrying her, I'd have to chew off my own arm to escape. (and lose the other one in the divorce settlement.)

217 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:41:30pm

re: #208 Guanxi88

Must be a wild bar.

Wait till they start drinken. ;)

218 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:41:33pm

re: #205 Guanxi88

Oh, you'd like my ex, then.

Take my ex, please!

/ Henny Youngman, I ain't ;)

219 Animal  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:42:03pm

re: #119 DEZes

My luck was never that good.

Mine... umm... Is two a "pile?"

220 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:42:17pm

re: #202 Salamantis

Well first, the Dominionists have to raise themselves up a crop of fundie-friendly voters who are willing to replace the US Constitution with the Bible, and civil and criminal law with a Christofundie version of sharia.

Which is, of course, their whole rationale behind trying to shoehorn their pet religious dogmas into public high school science classes.

Possibly. And the point of requiring kindergarteners to read a book about gay penguins parenting is?

This kind of abominable thinking is FREELY available from the hard left and the hard right. No matter how much fun it is to yelp about "fundies" and spit the word "Evangelical", or shout "moonbat" (a personal favorite), the point must remain that a quality education and a literate, thinking populace is the ONLY justification for our public school systems, and it has to be defended.

I personally share part of the FAILURE in keeping "Sally has Two Daddie"-type crap out of the schools, and THIS crap is the backlash.

Luckily, my kids have a parent at home who can read a textbook.

Watch your children regardless of who is in charge.

221 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:42:22pm

re: #215 Gus 802

Yikes. This was a straight party line vote too. All of the Republicans voted for McLeroy.

Kinda shows where the GOP in Texas is headed, straight into the crapper for lots more election loses.

222 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:42:39pm

re: #177 DEZes

Never tried it. ;)

It sounds kinda gamy.

223 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:42:44pm

Who is this lizard Deleted? I see a lot of comments from it but never seem to be able to read them.......
/

224 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:42:50pm

re: #216 Guanxi88

Hey, I'm not sorry. I dodged a bullet, I tell you what. If I'd ending up marrying her, I'd have to chew off my own arm to escape. (and lose the other one in the divorce settlement.)

I caught a Kentucky coyote in a trap once.

225 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:42:53pm

Evolution eated creationist.

//

226 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:42:54pm

re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist

I do keep wanting to pluck and shape Salma, yes. Alternatively, I could just let my own unibrow go, but my husband hates it.

If she has it, it's authentic Frida. I have seen photos.

227 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:42:57pm

re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist

I do keep wanting to pluck and shape Salma, yes.

Along the same lines; a former girlfriend pressured me into watching Captain Corelli's Mandolin some years back. In the scene in which the delectable Penelope Cruz finally gets sorta nekkid, she raises her arms to embrace Nick Cage.. revealing hairy armpits.

Now... I suppose the director was striving for authenticity or something like that; but if we're able to suspend our disbelief sufficiently to believe that she's speaking Greek, can't they also indulge us by pretending that Greek girls during WWII had access to Epiladies?

228 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:43:20pm

re: #219 Animal

Mine... umm... Is two a "pile?"

Its a damn good start. ;)

229 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:43:28pm

re: #215 Gus 802 imagine that.................../

230 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:43:42pm

re: #221 FurryOldGuyJeans

Kinda shows where the GOP in Texas is headed, straight into the crapper for lots more election loses.

Looks like it. You think there would be one or two independent thinkers but as we know that's verboten.

231 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:44:01pm

re: #215 Gus 802

Yikes. This was a straight party line vote too. All of the Republicans voted for McLeroy.

Yes, and I am pissed at Dan Patrick to no good end.

232 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:44:34pm

re: #231 OldLineTexan

Yes, and I am pissed at Dan Patrick to no good end.

That hot race car driver chick?

/

233 ArmyWife  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:44:48pm

re: #227 Occasional Reader

She coulda plucked them, for goodness sakes. I would faced with this horrific non-razor existence. ;)

234 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:44:52pm

re: #222 debutaunt

It sounds kinda gamy.

Groan and an upding. ;)

235 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:44:54pm

re: #191 FurryOldGuyJeans

Bullshit it may be, but there is no denying what they want to do to make America more "Godly".

You know, I can show you far leftist who talk just like you. You are sitting on the edge of the wacky right.

Yes, there are fundamentalist that would love to see a theocracy, but there is only a very small subset of fundy's who are hoping for a real holy war, and they are fringe, like you.

236 jaunte  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:44:59pm

re: #231 OldLineTexan

That was a pretty silly lie he told.

3:45 – Sen. Dan Patrick, R-Houston, rises to speak in favor of McLeroy’s confirmation. Religion is foundational to education, he argues. “Why do we care” what the rest of the country says, Sen. Patrick asks. This is about politics if the final vote is a straight party vote, Democrats vs. Republicans.

Good heavens. Sen. Patrick says he didn’t come to the Senate today already decided how he would vote on McLeroy’s confirmation. Yeah, right.

237 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:45:17pm

re: #231 OldLineTexan

Yes, and I am pissed at Dan Patrick to no good end.

He had some rather off the wall comments. Write to him. Not that it will do any good.

238 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:45:56pm

re: #232 Occasional Reader

That hot race car driver chick?

/

Almost the polar opposite.

239 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:46:18pm

re: #237 Gus 802

He had some rather off the wall comments. Write to him. Not that it will do any good.

It didn't the last three times on this subject.

240 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:46:35pm

I felt a disturbance in the force, and comment 206 went POOF!

241 Racer X  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:48:02pm

re: #232 Occasional Reader

That hot race car driver chick?

/

Mmmm... Danica.

242 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:48:06pm

re: #240 DEZes

I felt a disturbance in the force, and comment 206 went POOF!

She quoted OR who himself forgot the sac tag.

243 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:48:08pm

re: #239 OldLineTexan

It didn't the last three times on this subject.

OK Yeah, regardless of the issue I don't think writing to congressmen makes much of a difference. It used to be said "write to your congressmen" years ago. Once you elect them into office it's a package deal.

244 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:48:17pm

re: #213 Occasional Reader

That laugh just didn't sound very geniune to me. Call it an instinct.

Oh, hell!
Look what you did!
I quoted you, and got deleted!
I really, really hate that.

245 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:48:26pm

What happened up yonder?
I stepped away for a few minutes.

246 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:48:36pm

re: #232 Occasional Reader no the ESPN radio guy.................../

247 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:49:06pm

re: #243 Gus 802

OK Yeah, regardless of the issue I don't think writing to congressmen makes much of a difference. It used to be said "write to your congressmen" years ago. Once you elect them into office it's a package deal.

He's a State Senator ... he rides a little closer to the ground that a Congressman.

248 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:49:16pm

re: #242 callahan23

She quoted OR who himself forgot the sac tag.

The "sac" tag?

/I ain't goin' there!

249 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:49:18pm

re: #242 callahan23

She quoted OR who himself forgot the sac tag.

Ohferpetessake... it wasn't glaringly obvious I was kidding?!

250 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:49:41pm

re: #249 Occasional Reader

it was to me.

251 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:49:51pm

re: #245 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What happened up yonder?
I stepped away for a few minutes.

See my #242

252 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:49:56pm

re: #246 gtrs

no the ESPN radio guy.................../

Actually, Dan Patrick got his start as a sportscaster, has owned a sports bar in Houston, and owns a radio station in Tomball that I like.

253 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:50:12pm

re: #245 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What happened up yonder?
I stepped away for a few minutes.

You sobered up fast.
Someone said something bad.
not sure what, not sure I wanna know.
{Callahan} knows. ;)

254 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:50:13pm

re: #249 Occasional Reader

Ohferpetessake... it wasn't glaringly obvious I was kidding?!

Kidding about what. I missed it, can you repost?
/

255 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:50:36pm

re: #244 reine.de.tout

Oh, hell!
Look what you did!
I quoted you, and got deleted!
I really, really hate that.

*gasp*
What's an innocent young lady like you doin' hanging around with OR?

256 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:50:37pm

re: #244 reine.de.tout

Oh, hell!
Look what you did!
I quoted you, and got deleted!
I really, really hate that.

No pie for OR.

257 VegasRick  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:50:39pm

re: #248 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The "sac" tag?

/I ain't goin' there!

I don't want to see OR's sac, tagged or not!

258 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:50:54pm

re: #227 Occasional Reader

Along the same lines; a former girlfriend pressured me into watching Captain Corelli's Mandolin some years back. In the scene in which the delectable Penelope Cruz finally gets sorta nekkid, she raises her arms to embrace Nick Cage.. revealing hairy armpits.

Now... I suppose the director was striving for authenticity or something like that; but if we're able to suspend our disbelief sufficiently to believe that she's speaking Greek, can't they also indulge us by pretending that Greek girls during WWII had access to Epiladies?

Spike Lee made a WWII movie in which a US soldier and a little Italian kid did a 'high-five', so I'd expect shaven underarms would be fine.

259 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:51:13pm

re: #249 Occasional Reader

Ohferpetessake... it wasn't glaringly obvious I was kidding?!

And it was LOL to boot, yes it was.
;-)

260 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:52:07pm

re: #255 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*gasp*
What's an innocent young lady like you doin' hanging around with OR?

I dunno.
Learned my lesson, though.

261 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:52:12pm

re: #254 Walter L. Newton

Kidding about what. I missed it, can you repost?
/

Can we have a Repost Resolution passed by acclamation?

/

262 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:52:18pm

Well, on that interesting note, I will take me leave for now.

263 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:53:02pm

re: #262 Occasional Reader

Well, on that interesting note, I will take me leave for now.

I'll go with you ... need dinner.

264 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:53:02pm

re: #248 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The "sac" tag?

/I ain't goin' there!

Oh, shoot, what have I done there? PIMF
My bad.
It turned out funny, so all is well?
;-)

265 lostlakehiker  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:53:10pm

Going off topic, but only kind-of-sort-of: there's a link posted, highly rated, claiming that the Chrysler dealerships that got closed were disproportionately Republican. The post claims that Red states are particularly hard hit.

Now I didn't have time or energy to check every possible slant on this, but what I can say is that the average number of closed dealerships per electoral vote in states that went for Obama in 2008 was 1.42, while for states that went for McCain, it was 1.49. In my not-that-humble opinion, this is thin evidence, verging on no evidence, for the claim. If the numbers had been 1.31 vs 1.56, that might tell us something. Not this decimal hairsplitting difference.

266 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:53:10pm

re: #257 VegasRick

I don't want to see OR's sac, tagged or not!

I DID NOT GO THERE ...

/... but I figured someone would ... :D

267 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:53:16pm

Sac tags, get your sac tags, only two dollars.

268 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:53:48pm

re: #262 Occasional Reader

Well, on that interesting note, I will take me leave for now.

*grin*
We love ya' !

269 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:53:55pm

OT: Yes, you can sprout soybeans that you buy at the grocery store. They sprout really quick, 1-2 days

270 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:54:07pm

Major Texas win!

Bas Astronomy Blog with something like an icanhascheezburger image.

271 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:54:09pm

Yeah -- I think that comment didn't really need to be deleted. If you reload, it's back.

272 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:54:32pm

re: #271 Charles

Yeah -- I think that comment didn't really need to be deleted. If you reload, it's back.

reloading....

273 Randall Gross  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:54:36pm

re: #232 Occasional Reader

That hot race car driver chick?

/

Danica

Youtube Video
274 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:54:49pm

re: #267 DEZes

Sac tags, get your sac tags, only two dollars.

They're defective!

275 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:54:58pm

re: #265 lostlakehiker

Yeah, the story is bogus but people love it anyways.

276 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:55:10pm

re: #272 LGoPs

reloading....

Dont point that at me. ;)

277 brookly red  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:55:51pm

re: #267 DEZes

Sac tags, get your sac tags, only two dollars.

sorry, I buy in bulk.

278 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:56:07pm

re: #265 lostlakehiker

Going off topic, but only kind-of-sort-of: there's a link posted, highly rated, claiming that the Chrysler dealerships that got closed were disproportionately Republican. The post claims that Red states are particularly hard hit.

Now I didn't have time or energy to check every possible slant on this, but what I can say is that the average number of closed dealerships per electoral vote in states that went for Obama in 2008 was 1.42, while for states that went for McCain, it was 1.49. In my not-that-humble opinion, this is thin evidence, verging on no evidence, for the claim. If the numbers had been 1.31 vs 1.56, that might tell us something. Not this decimal hairsplitting difference.

However, you're forgetting that 76.3% of all statistics are made up.
;)

279 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:56:13pm

re: #274 debutaunt

They're defective!

They you need the draw string to go with it for another buck 50.
:)

280 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:56:38pm

Getting back on-topic, if I may:

As a proud immigrant to the Lone Star State, I've never understood why it is that a state blessed by the Almighty as Texas undoubtedly was and is, should be saddled with legislators and other leaders who seem to gravitate toward this whacky crap.

Three things inspired my move to this state:

1) No income tax;
2) Shall-issue for CCW; and
3) Death penalty.

Who knew that it came with whacky Creationism? I didn't ask for it, but it just sorta seems to come with the others, like a Happy Meal, where you've gotta take the crappy toy.

281 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:57:01pm

re: #278 gmsc

However, you're forgetting that 76.3% of all statistics are made up.
;)

And that's 99 and 44/100 percent true.

//

282 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:57:05pm

re: #236 jaunte
isn't bearing false witness against one of the Ten Commandment thingy's?....... wonder if sen. patrick ever actually read his bible........./

283 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:57:15pm

re: #279 DEZes

They you need the draw string to go with it for another buck 50.
:)

What kind of dollar store are you running?

284 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:57:36pm

re: #269 Killgore Trout

OT: Yes, you can sprout soybeans that you buy at the grocery store. They sprout really quick, 1-2 days

Pinto beans, too. Make a nice veggie, or, when dried and ground, a great mix-in for cornbread.

285 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:57:50pm

re: #271 Charles

Yeah -- I think that comment didn't really need to be deleted. If you reload, it's back.

After all that excitement, not very scandalous or funny, gee.

286 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:58:09pm

Good evening Lizards! Hope everyone is well today..
Charles: Phil over at Bad Astronomy is just thrilled with this news about Texas..
Thank you for your due diligence..
[Link: blogs.discovermagazine.com...]

287 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:58:18pm

re: #281 Gus 802

And that's 99 and 44/100 percent true.

//

80% of statisticians agree.

288 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:58:53pm

re: #284 Guanxi88

Interesting.

289 jaunte  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:59:33pm

More Fun with Texas Representatives: Warren Chisum, Pampa.
Here's where creationism converges with crazy antisemitism.

(Story from 2007)

Rep. Warren Chisum, R-Pampa, apologized to Jewish groups after circulating a memo calling evolution a kabbalah conspiracy. On Feb. 9, Chisum forwarded a memo from Georgia state Rep. Ben Bridges, R-Cleveland, to members of the House. In it, avowed creationist Bridges proposed a draft bill outlawing teaching evolution in tax-funded schools. He'd failed to get it through the Georgia Legislature in 2005, but now he's sending it to like-minded legislators in other states. In his covering letter, Chisum thanked Bridges for his "information on this important topic." However, "evidence" in the memo comes from anti-Semitic conspiracy theory Web site [Link: www.fixedearth.com....] Run by former high school teacher Marshall Hall, it claims that many scientific theories of the past thousand years are part of a massive Jewish conspiracy and calls the Big Bang a "15-billion-year alternate 'creation scenario' of the Pharisee religion." Now the finger-pointing begins: Chisum claims he was just being a "Good Samaritan" to Bridges and had not read the Web site, Bridges claims Hall wrote the memo without asking him, and Hall says that just because he calls evolution a Jewish conspiracy, that doesn't mean he's anti-Semitic. Bridge's bill, if taken up by any legislator, would put the term "anti-Christ" in the law books. – R.W.
[Link: www.austinchronicle.com...]

290 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 3:59:48pm

re: #287 Guanxi88

80% of statisticians agree.

And 4 out of 5 doctors agree.

//Except Dr. McLeroy.

291 Cygnus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:00:16pm

re: #13 callahan23

My great-grampa was a Lemur.

My great-grandpa was a Swede.

292 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:00:20pm

re: #288 Killgore Trout

Interesting.

Yes, in fact, most beans will sprout. Let them go about a day or two, then dry 'em and grind 'em into bread batter, for a cheap boost of protein. Like wheat bread? Half whole grain flour, and half sprouted wheatberries makes a delicious base for bread. And cheap as hell.

293 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:00:34pm

re: #284 Guanxi88

I'll have to take a closer look at the bulk food section to see what else can be grown. I planted a large area with flax seed from the grocery store this year instead of buying flower seeds from the garden center. Works really well.

294 ArmyWife  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:01:04pm

re: #285 Walter L. Newton

I suppose we could try to better. If you post a wacky conspiracy theory, I'll quote you with a great big "I agree!", ok? I promise, I'll quote you. Pinky promise even. Go ahead and post!

295 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:01:30pm

re: #289 jaunte

More Fun with Texas Representatives: Warren Chisum, Pampa.
Here's where creationism converges with crazy antisemitism.

(Story from 2007)

Yikes:

Run by former high school teacher Marshall Hall, it claims that many scientific theories of the past thousand years are part of a massive Jewish conspiracy and calls the Big Bang a "15-billion-year alternate 'creation scenario' of the Pharisee religion."

296 VegasRick  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:01:48pm

re: #293 Killgore Trout

I'll have to take a closer look at the bulk food section to see what else can be grown. I planted a large area with flax seed from the grocery store this year instead of buying flower seeds from the garden center. Works really well.

You're not gonna grow your own teabags are you?
/

297 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:01:55pm

re: #252 OldLineTexan is the name of the sports bar there dan patrick's? or something else?

298 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:02:01pm

re: #292 Guanxi88

I've been sprouting wheatberries for years for the cats to eat. I never thought of eating them myself.

299 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:02:34pm

re: #283 debutaunt

What kind of dollar store are you running?

Um, uh,....... we have changed locations.

300 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:02:35pm

re: #291 Cygnus

My great-grandpa was a Swede.

Mine was a Nauga!

301 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:02:45pm

re: #296 VegasRick

No, but I do grow my own tea. It's in my gardening article for the next cookbook.

302 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:03:19pm

re: #300 jcm

Mine was a Nauga!

Did he ever tan your hide?
/

303 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:03:52pm

re: #201 Occasional Reader

Me, I want atheism to be enforced through ruthless violence.

DEATH TO THE UNBELIEVERS IN NON-BELIEF!

That's an awkward mouthful, how's it sound in Latin?

304 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:04:13pm

re: #299 DEZes

Um, uh,....... we have changed locations.

You aren't importing any tainted Chinese crap are you?

305 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:04:16pm

re: #298 Killgore Trout

I've been sprouting wheatberries for years for the cats to eat. I never thought of eating them myself.

Oh hell yeah! Steam them, very nice veggie. Dry 'em just a bit, and fry in oil (also good for soy and pinto beans when sprouted); run'em through a grinder and mix a little oil in. There's a million things you can do with just legumes and grains. (Got interested in the subject when I was trying to feed myself on 5 bucks a week without contracting beri-beri or other diseases)

306 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:04:17pm

re: #291 Cygnus

My great-grandpa was a Swede.

Lemurs have nationalities?

307 jaunte  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:04:25pm

re: #295 Gus 802

Yikes indeed. Here's a little more about the story, including links to the letter he distributed to the other members of the house.
[Link: www.offthekuff.com...]

308 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:04:27pm

re: #302 LGoPs

Did he ever tan your hide?
/

Was he blue is what I wanna know.

309 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:04:40pm

re: #298 Killgore Trout

I've been sprouting wheatberries for years for the cats to eat. I never thought of eating them myself.

All this time spent going back and forth to the garden!
You've probably got corn under-foot.

310 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:04:49pm

re: #294 ArmyWife

I suppose we could try to better. If you post a wacky conspiracy theory, I'll quote you with a great big "I agree!", ok? I promise, I'll quote you. Pinky promise even. Go ahead and post!

Not quite enough time right now, fixin' to leave in a few and go take a walk on top of Mount Falcon...

------------
The story of Mount Falcon is largely the story of John Brisben Walker, who once owned over 4,000 acres of land in this area. During the early 1900's Walker lived in an elaborate stone house on Mount Falcon while planning the construction of a summer home for the Presidents of the United States, which was to have been located on a ridge to the east of his home. Walker's home burned in 1918, and all that remains of this once splendid edifice are the massive stone walls and numerous fireplaces of a unique mountain castle.

On this site the crumbling remnants of a broken dream and the views of the plains to the east and mountains to the west combine to create an inspirational setting. The construction of the Summer White House never proceeded beyond the laying of the foundation and cornerstone, though thousands of Colorado school children each donated 10 cents toward Walker's dream. American involvement in W.W. I, combined with a waning of Walker's good fortunes, brought an end to this project. From the site of the Summer White House one may look down on Red Rocks Park, one of Walker's dreams come true.

John Brisben Walker was a man of many visions. He made fortunes on land speculation in West Virginia and his purchase of Cosmopolitan Magazine, but other ventures were less successful. Walker's purchase of the Stanley Steamer Company was a losing bet against Henry Ford's internal combustion engine. Although he held vast fortunes at various times in his life, Walker died penniless in 1931 at the age of 83.
--------------

A lot of nice trails on top, about 15 miles from my apartment... see pretty pictures at...

[Link: www.co.jefferson.co.us...]

311 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:05:21pm

re: #302 LGoPs

Did he ever tan your hide?
/

Oh yeah, a veritable rainbow of colors.

312 Mr Secul  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:05:24pm

I wonder where Michael Behe will go?

He accepts macroevolution and common descent. He accepts evolution, he just tries to reserve a place for God.

Both Behe and Collins assume that God exists, he created the universe. Both accept evolution but both argue that God gives evolution a helping hand, now and then, in a way that we can't detect.

That's a lot to have in common.

Collins seems to think that evolution is sufficient to create complex organisms. He has argued that God pokes the genes now and then to direct the process towards his intended ends but he seems to prefer to argue that God set up the universe so that its laws inevitably lead to intelligent life. He then suggests that when a bright enough species arose, God injected it with divinity.

Behe has argued that evolution can do the small stuff but it needs a helping hand to do the heavy lifting.

I remember Tolkien writing that evil is not creative, only God creates. This is an old Christian idea and I think that it informs Behe's thinking.

I think that Behe has shown a willingness to change his views in the light of evidence. I don't think that he accepted common descent before his drubbing in Dover (though I could be wrong about that).

He received another drubbing from Abbie here.

Behe was arguing that evolution cab break stuff but certain things are too complex to evolve by natural selection. Abbie showed that HIV has done the kinds of things that Behe claimed were not possible without God's help.

This doesn't disprove Behe's contention. But what it means is, that if Behe is right then God is helping out with the bad stuff as well as with the good stuff.

This removes the moral/ethical distinction between guided evolution and natural selection. Its no longer: God does the good stuff, natural selection does the rest.

Behe need not argue that God make a second rate universe with life that needs God's hand to cope with the simple things that life has to deal with. He could argue that God was clever enough to make a competent universe with life that was able to adapt and develop intelligence without requiring help.

God could step in and put a divine spark into whatever organism became capable of advanced thought.

I imagine that the Biologos ideas might appeal to Behe.

313 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:05:34pm

re: #294 ArmyWife

I suppose we could try to better. If you post a wacky conspiracy theory, I'll quote you with a great big "I agree!", ok? I promise, I'll quote you. Pinky promise even. Go ahead and post!

JFK comitted suicide.

314 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:05:47pm

re: #304 screaming_eagle

You aren't importing any tainted Chinese crap are you?

Hey, he's not importing any more until he sells what he's already got.

315 ArmyWife  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:06:12pm

re: #313 debutaunt

pssst...it was a joke.

316 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:06:38pm

re: #298 Killgore Trout

I've been sprouting wheatberries for years for the cats to eat. I never thought of eating them myself.

Eating cats! You heathen!

317 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:07:21pm

re: #313 debutaunt

JFK comitted suicide.

How do you knoll that?

318 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:07:30pm

re: #306 debutaunt

Lemurs have nationalities?


Carefully now, next thing you know politicians will be polling to see which way Lemurs tend to vote.

319 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:07:31pm

re: #304 screaming_eagle

You aren't importing any tainted Chinese crap are you?

I just got a Star Trek glass with my burger, Made in China.
maybe they should have sold plates. ;)

320 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:07:56pm

re: #305 Guanxi88

Oh hell yeah! Steam them, very nice veggie. Dry 'em just a bit, and fry in oil (also good for soy and pinto beans when sprouted); run'em through a grinder and mix a little oil in. There's a million things you can do with just legumes and grains. (Got interested in the subject when I was trying to feed myself on 5 bucks a week without contracting beri-beri or other diseases)

In college I invented the mixing of Campbell's tomato soup and a can of green beans...It's surprisingly good..And the old boy scout dish..
hamburger..tomatos..potatoes..seasoning..wrap in foil and bake an hour...
That and pb&j sammiches

321 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:08:07pm

re: #317 pre-Boomer Marine brat

How do you knoll that?

The Lindberg Baby was in on it; Piltdown Man was the brains behind it; and Cigarette-Smoking Man pulled the trigger.

322 pink freud  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:08:10pm

re: #294 ArmyWife

I suppose we could try to better. If you post a wacky conspiracy theory, I'll quote you with a great big "I agree!", ok? I promise, I'll quote you. Pinky promise even. Go ahead and post!

You gettin' me in trouble, AW?

323 Animal  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:08:47pm

re: #228 DEZes

Its a damn good start. ;)

It was one of the more exciting evenings of my young life.

324 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:08:59pm

re: #315 ArmyWife

pssst...it was a joke.

Get out!

325 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:09:03pm

re: #303 CyanSnowHawk

That's an awkward mouthful, how's it sound in Latin?

NEX UT INCREDIBILIS IN NON - Fides!

Online translator. I have no idea if it's correct.

326 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:09:22pm

re: #323 Animal

It was one of the more exciting evenings of my young life.

Spendy, though.

327 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:09:27pm

re: #323 Animal

It was one of the more exciting evenings of my young life.

Details, pictures, links?

328 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:09:30pm

re: #317 pre-Boomer Marine brat

How do you knoll that?

I read it in a book in the Library Repository.

329 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:10:00pm

re: #319 DEZes

I just got a Star Trek glass with my burger, Made in China.
maybe they should have sold plates. ;)

The pictures are made with lead paint.

330 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:10:04pm

OT: Toys 'R' Us purchases FAO Schwarz
No more FAO Schwarz stores in Macy's

331 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:11:00pm

re: #329 screaming_eagle

The pictures are made with lead paint.

*GAK* *Thud*

332 Mr Secul  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:11:04pm

re: #209 ShanghaiEd

Do they have no shame?

Is that a rhetorical question? :-)

333 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:11:04pm

re: #329 screaming_eagle

The pictures are made with lead paint.

The glass itself is made from trinitite, gathered in the Gobi.

334 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:11:19pm

re: #329 screaming_eagle

The pictures are made with lead paint.

Except for orange, orange uses uranium.

335 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:11:46pm

re: #328 jcm

I read it in a book in the Library Repository.

*groan/barf*

/Dealey-ing out a compliment for you

336 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:11:57pm

re: #324 debutaunt

Get out!

A good conspiracy theory is a story that is way out there but will just enough truth to fool people into possibly believing it may be the truth..Throw in a Government angle and it's just like fly fishing on a warm day..

337 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:13:02pm

re: #336 HoosierHoops

A good conspiracy theory is a story that is way out there but will just enough truth to fool people into possibly believing it may be the truth..Throw in a Government angle and it's just like fly fishing on a warm day..

Saint Joe river. ;)
Good steal head fishing.

338 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:13:26pm

This just in!

Weird comment from Sen. Ogden:

SNIP

"The perception — if we vote against Dr. McLeroy — amongst a significant number of Texans is if you are a conservative, if you believe in the infallibility and the literacy of the Bible, there's no need to apply to be on the State Board of Education. And I don't know that we want to send that message," said Sen. Steve Ogden, R-Bryan. Ogden said the Bryan dentist is qualified and has the governor's support.

SHIP

"To a certain degree it's a slur. And to say that someone is not qualified to be on the State Board of Education as chairman because the New York Times or Washington Post criticizes him is ridiculous," Ogden said.

SNIP

339 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:13:28pm

re: #336 HoosierHoops

A good conspiracy theory is a story that is way out there but will just enough truth to fool people into possibly believing it may be the truth..Throw in a Government angle and it's just like fly fishing on a warm day..

Barrack Obama is a good president.

340 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:13:51pm

re: #336 HoosierHoops

A good conspiracy theory is a story that is way out there but will just enough truth to fool people into possibly believing it may be the truth..Throw in a Government angle and it's just like fly fishing on a warm day..

I'm going to start with the JFK committed suicide theory and work back.

341 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:14:18pm

re: #339 screaming_eagle

Barrack Obama is a good president.

It has to contain some truth. ;)

342 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:14:31pm

re: #335 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*groan/barf*

/Dealey-ing out a compliment for you

I'm plazaed you liked it!

343 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:15:16pm

re: #337 DEZes

Saint Joe river. ;)
Good steal head fishing.

I love the movie 'a river runs through it'
I fish for Walleye up in Wisc..Best tasting fish evolution ever came up with...

344 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:15:20pm

re: #341 DEZes

It has to contain some truth. ;)

He is president.The good part is the way out there angle. And it involves the gubermint.

345 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:15:43pm

re: #342 jcm

I'm plazaed you liked it!

Im just gonna sit back and marble at these puns.

346 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:16:17pm

re: #344 screaming_eagle

He is president.The good part is the way out there angle. And it involves the gubermint.

Well, okay then.
Change.

347 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:16:41pm

re: #340 debutaunt

I'm going to start with the JFK committed suicide theory and work back.

The Washington Post had pictures of him and Marilyn Monroe and threaten to print them...

348 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:17:08pm

re: #344 screaming_eagle

He is president.The good part is the way out there angle. And it involves the gubermint.

Ahh, but here's the best part - you didn't say President of what, now did you? Obviously, President of the shape-shifting reptilian Draco overlords, looking to use mass-hypnosis, FEMA death-camps, and false-flag terror and flu in order to..... you fill in the blanks, like Mad-Libs.

349 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:17:19pm

re: #345 DEZes

Im just gonna sit back and marble at these puns.

Just don't take them for granite.

350 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:17:21pm

re: #343 HoosierHoops

I love the movie 'a river runs through it'
I fish for Walleye up in Wisc..Best tasting fish evolution ever came up with...

You ever fish saint Joe, its not super far from you.

351 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:17:25pm

re: #348 Guanxi88

Ahh, but here's the best part - you didn't say President of what, now did you? Obviously, President of the shape-shifting reptilian Draco overlords, looking to use mass-hypnosis, FEMA death-camps, and false-flag terror and flu in order to..... you fill in the blanks, like Mad-Libs.

Dammit, forgot Chemtrails and vaccines.

352 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:17:58pm

re: #334 jcm

Except for orange, orange uses uranium.

Orange Fiesta-ware will make a Geiger counter go berserk!

(True.)

353 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:18:10pm

re: #349 jcm

Just don't take them for granite.

That pun rocks

354 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:18:11pm

re: #348 Guanxi88

Ahh, but here's the best part - you didn't say President of what, now did you? Obviously, President of the shape-shifting reptilian Draco overlords, looking to use mass-hypnosis, FEMA death-camps, and false-flag terror and flu in order to..... you fill in the blanks, like Mad-Libs.

President of Chrysler.

/

355 vxbush  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:18:12pm

Ew. The Obama fist bump has made its way into a farm seed commercial by Bayer. Blech.

356 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:18:41pm

re: #348 Guanxi88

Ahh, but here's the best part - you didn't say President of what, now did you? Obviously, President of the shape-shifting reptilian Draco overlords, looking to use mass-hypnosis, FEMA death-camps, and false-flag terror and flu in order to..... you fill in the blanks, like Mad-Libs.

re: #351 Guanxi88

Dammit, forgot Chemtrails and vaccines.

...in order to distract us from the Chem-Trails used to force vaccinations in order to create a race of autistic muslim sheeple. Got it?

357 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:18:50pm

re: #348 Guanxi88

Ahh, but here's the best part - you didn't say President of what, now did you? Obviously, President of the shape-shifting reptilian Draco overlords, looking to use mass-hypnosis, FEMA death-camps, and false-flag terror and flu in order to..... you fill in the blanks, like Mad-Libs.

You shouldn't be giving out national security secrets.

358 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:18:52pm

re: #347 HoosierHoops

The Washington Post had pictures of him and Marilyn Monroe and threaten to print them...

That wouldn't have done it, I heard JFK and Hoover in one of his outfits......

359 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:19:08pm

re: #349 jcm

Just don't take them for granite.

I am igneous as a rock.

360 Mr Secul  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:19:09pm

re: #289 jaunte

Bridge's bill, if taken up by any legislator, would put the term "anti-Christ" in the law books. – R.W.

The burning question is... is the Antichrist gay?

361 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:19:12pm

re: #347 HoosierHoops

The Washington Post had pictures of him and Marilyn Monroe and threaten to print them...

So anyway, she was murdered and umm he committed suicide. My story is writing itself. The WaPo will only build interest in my book and lame website.

362 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:19:23pm

re: #340 debutaunt

I'm going to start with the JFK committed suicide theory and work back.

Well, he did have his driver put him in the path of the bullet. If not for that it might have hurt someone else.

//////////////////

363 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:19:29pm

re: #357 screaming_eagle

You shouldn't be giving out national security secrets.

Hey, if Biden can spill the beans on a bunker, I can lay out a few simple, obvious facts, known to everyone anyway.

364 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:19:56pm

re: #353 LGoPs

That pun rocks

You gotta be stoned to appreciate it.

365 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:20:42pm

re: #350 DEZes

You ever fish saint Joe, its not super far from you.

No..I fish on Lake Tomahawk, Wisc...I'm going to google saint joe..

366 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:21:10pm

re: #363 Guanxi88

Hey, if Biden can spill the beans on a bunker, I can lay out a few simple, obvious facts, known to everyone anyway.

Please dont mention the space ship......
Ah crap.

367 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:21:13pm

re: #364 DEZes

You gotta be stoned to appreciate it.

If you stoned me and stole my stuff would that be basalt and robbery......?

368 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:21:45pm

re: #235 Walter L. Newton

You know, I can show you far leftist who talk just like you. You are sitting on the edge of the wacky right.

Yes, there are fundamentalist that would love to see a theocracy, but there is only a very small subset of fundy's who are hoping for a real holy war, and they are fringe, like you.

You honestly think I am advocating a Holy War?!? I am the farthest from that. I am repeating what I have been told by FUNDIES!

369 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:21:50pm

re: #367 LGoPs

If you stoned me and stole my stuff would that be basalt and robbery......?

Gonna need some concrete evidence.

370 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:22:19pm

re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist

Orange Fiesta-ware will make a Geiger counter go berserk!

(True.)

Yep!

Back when, quacks made glass water jugs with radium in the glass. The "invigorated" water was good for your health.

371 ArmyWife  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:22:43pm

re: #322 pink freud

You found me out. So very clever you are!

372 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:23:31pm

re: #358 jcm

That wouldn't have done it, I heard JFK and Hoover in one of his outfits......

Opening up the office staff door..
People..We need more Backstory! A good Conspiracy theory doesn't invent itself! Jeez..Get Buzzsaw on line one! Stat!

373 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:23:35pm

re: #348 Guanxi88

Ahh, but here's the best part - you didn't say President of what, now did you? Obviously, President of the shape-shifting reptilian Draco overlords, looking to use mass-hypnosis, FEMA death-camps, and false-flag terror and flu in order to..... re: #356 Guanxi88

...distract us from the Chem-Trails used to force vaccinations in order to create a race of autistic muslim sheeple. Got it?

All of which, of course, is just what the Judeo-Masonic disinformation machine WANTS you to believe, in order to distract you from the staggering finds of artifacts and evidence of intelligent life on the Moon. All that deficit you hear about, all those trillions in "stimulus" money that no one can track down? Spent on the secret space program, designed to get Judeo-Masons back to their home-world following the end of nitrogen-harvesting operations here.

374 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:23:37pm

re: #369 DEZes

Gonna need some concrete evidence.

if you killed someone by pouring wet concrete on them you'd be a mortarer.....

375 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:23:43pm

re: #362 CyanSnowHawk

Well, he did have his driver put him in the path of the bullet. If not for that it might have hurt someone else.

//////////////////

I never stated that my theory would be easy to prove.

376 Mike Nargizian  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:23:46pm

re: #27 OldLineTexan

re: #18 Walter L. Newton
Correct, but the real point being made by Charles was that ALL the Republicans voted YES, for a person who denies the facts of science and wants to put creationism into school science classes.
Is it clear to you now?
A bit rude-seeming, since the point of that post MAY have been that it was a near-miss of a thing.

Old Line -
Thanks that whats I was driving at...
You see there are annoying self-important people at all blogs including lgf... lol...
take care...
Mike

377 ArmyWife  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:24:29pm

re: #349 jcm

of quartz that wouldn't happen.

378 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:24:53pm

re: #374 LGoPs

if you killed someone by pouring wet concrete on them you'd be a mortarer.....

Should we asphalt him first.

379 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:25:07pm

re: #355 vxbush

Ew. The Obama fist bump has made its way into a farm seed commercial by Bayer. Blech.

Sell your Bayer stock immediately!
;)

It's an appropriate gesture for him – if you don't respond it kind, it winds up being a threat.

380 callahan23  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:25:47pm

Oh crap, I gotta go. Need to wake up early. Lots of work tomorrow.
You Lizards, you've made my day a very happy one indeed.
Stay scaly.
Love you all - mostly. { }

381 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:26:29pm

re: #378 DEZes

Should we asphalt him first.

We can do the cement shoes later.

382 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:26:34pm

re: #374 LGoPs

if you killed someone by pouring wet concrete on them you'd be a mortarer.....

You know what they say: "The mortar merrier!"

/Maybe that's where that show name comes from: Merry Mason
//or was it Perky Mason?

383 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:26:56pm

re: #378 DEZes

Should we asphalt him first.

Either way the cure is worse for the deceased.

384 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:27:04pm

re: #380 callahan23

Oh crap, I gotta go. Need to wake up early. Lots of work tomorrow.
You Lizards, you've made my day a very happy one indeed.
Stay scaly.
Love you all - mostly. { }

back at you Callahan.......
:)

385 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:27:45pm

re: #380 callahan23

Oh crap, I gotta go. Need to wake up early. Lots of work tomorrow.
You Lizards, you've made my day a very happy one indeed.
Stay scaly.
Love you all - mostly. { }

Have a good one.

386 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:27:52pm

re: #85 Walter L. Newton

"Steaming pile" of what?

You have never walked a dog on a cold November night?

387 lawhawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:27:54pm

Can I get an awwwww from the congregation?

Palestinians still live in misery? You don't say. They've been living in misery for decades because their fellow Arabs decided that refugee camps are the only place for them - decades later, and they're still there. The terrorists use 'em as cannon fodder and couldn't care less about the harm to civilians.

388 vxbush  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:28:00pm

re: #379 gmsc

Sell your Bayer stock immediately!
;)

It's an appropriate gesture for him – if you don't respond it kind, it winds up being a threat.

Heh. That's funny. You think I have money. Psych!

It was just so odd to see. So out of character of the farmers I know.

Argh. Dirty dishes are beckoning.

389 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:28:40pm

re: #382 gmsc

You know what they say: "The mortar merrier!"

/Maybe that's where that show name comes from: Merry Mason
//or was it Perky Mason?

mortarer, Gollum, Gollum.

390 theheat  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:29:00pm

Per the Dallas Morning News:

Gov. Rick Perry, who nominated McLeroy, will now have to select another member of the board to serve as chairman. Whoever is picked will not have to face Senate confirmation until the 2011 legislative session, unless there is a special session before then.

I predict a Creationist Free-for-All in the meantime. McLeroy isn't the only creationist name available to pull from the hat, I'm sure. The next one can go batshit nuts until 2011.

GOP senators rejected the criticism and accused the Democrats of holding an "inquisition" against the College Station Republican, who is a critic of Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

An inquisition because he doesn't believe in science? (I'm sure he's considered a "true" conservative.)

391 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:29:03pm

re: #388 vxbush

Heh. That's funny. You think I have money. Psych!

It was just so odd to see. So out of character of the farmers I know.

Argh. Dirty dishes are beckoning.

But I brought chocolate.

392 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:29:32pm

[Callahan}

393 vxbush  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:29:48pm

re: #391 DEZes

But I brought chocolate.

Oh. Tempting. So tempting. But chocolate in the house is worth two in the blog. :D

Later!

394 Summer Seale  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:29:58pm

The following will make no sense to anyone who hasn't been in Second Life for a bit:

o/

/olympicfanfare


But, I am fairly confident that you all can make out the joyous message nonetheless. =)

395 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:30:00pm

re: #386 unreconstructed rebel

You have never walked a dog on a cold November night?

Richard Jeni wrote a book called A Steaming Pile of Me.

396 ssn697  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:30:15pm

Did anyone catch the Discovery Institutes new website?

You can't be Christian if you believe in Evolution

Looks to me like they have totally given up on the "we are just trying to teach the science" argument, and have finally admitted it is all about religion.

397 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:30:26pm

re: #378 DEZes

Should we asphalt him first.

My dog got off the leash and bitumen.......they were pissed off, I'll tell ya.

398 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:30:31pm

re: #390 theheat

Per the Dallas Morning News:

An inquisition because he doesn't believe in science? (I'm sure he's considered a "true" conservative.)

True that.

399 Summer Seale  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:30:35pm

re: #394 Summer

Oops. That should be \o/

=)

400 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:30:53pm

re: #391 DEZes

But I brought chocolate.

Hello?

401 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:31:02pm

re: #387 lawhawk

Can I get an awwwww from the congregation?

Palestinians still live in misery? You don't say. They've been living in misery for decades because their fellow Arabs decided that refugee camps are the only place for them - decades later, and they're still there. The terrorists use 'em as cannon fodder and couldn't care less about the harm to civilians.

* * * **
Oddly enough, democrat supported, ACORN-run public housing in my neighborhood looks like refugee camps, is full of crime & drug markets, and also dates back to the 1940s...

402 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:31:05pm

re: #361 debutaunt yes, BUT how are they linked to britney spears and lindsay lohan?................./

403 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:31:21pm

re: #387 lawhawk

Can I get an awwwww from the congregation?

Palestinians still live in misery? You don't say. They've been living in misery for decades because their fellow Arabs decided that refugee camps are the only place for them - decades later, and they're still there. The terrorists use 'em as cannon fodder and couldn't care less about the harm to civilians.

Four months after Israel waged a war here to stop Hamas rocket fire......

Rewrite!

Four months after Israel responded to years of provocations and more than 6000 rocket attacks....

404 vxbush  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:31:27pm

re: #400 debutaunt

Hello?

Hey--gotta get the word out for folks to know.
Okay, really leaving now.....

405 Idle Drifter  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:31:42pm

re: #387 lawhawk

Well ain't that a staged photo if I ever saw one.

406 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:32:16pm

re: #397 LGoPs

My dog got off the leash and bitumen.......they were pissed off, I'll tell ya.

I surrender.

407 Racer X  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:32:20pm

re: #355 vxbush

Ew. The Obama fist bump has made its way into a farm seed commercial by Bayer. Blech.

The "fist bump" is not an exclusive Obama thing. It has been around a long time. I do it all the time.

408 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:32:20pm

re: #396 ssn697

Did anyone catch the Discovery Institutes new website?

You can't be Christian if you believe in Evolution

Looks to me like they have totally given up on the "we are just trying to teach the science" argument, and have finally admitted it is all about religion.

Charles pointed it out earlier, still is something that needs repeating.

409 Mr Secul  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:32:23pm

re: #390 theheat

Isn't he still on the board? As I understand it, he's just not the Chairman.

410 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:32:36pm

re: #406 DEZes

I surrender.

LOL....
:)

411 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:32:43pm

re: #396 ssn697

Did anyone catch the Discovery Institutes new website?

You can't be Christian if you believe in Evolution

Looks to me like they have totally given up on the "we are just trying to teach the science" argument, and have finally admitted it is all about religion.

I've posted a couple of lengthy posts showing just the opposite.

412 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:32:58pm

re: #400 debutaunt

Hello?

Never beg. ;)

413 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:33:11pm

re: #407 Racer X

The "fist bump" is not an exclusive Obama thing. It has been around a long time. I do it all the time.

Yes, but it was nothing until Barry did it. See, before Teh One, it was just a thing to do; now, it's The Thing to Do.

414 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:33:18pm

re: #405 Idle Drifter

Well ain't that a staged photo if I ever saw one.

The only thing missing is the crushed framed photo of Santa Claus!

415 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:33:18pm

re: #396 ssn697

Did anyone catch the Discovery Institutes new website?

You can't be Christian if you believe in Evolution

Looks to me like they have totally given up on the "we are just trying to teach the science" argument, and have finally admitted it is all about religion.

Works for me!
;)

416 Altermite  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:33:43pm

re: #413 Guanxi88

Yes, but it was nothing until Barry did it. See, before Teh One, it was just a thing to do; now, it's The Thing to Do.

You're reaching there. More than a bit.

417 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:34:02pm

re: #400 debutaunt

Hello?

Candy-gram!

418 Racer X  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:34:05pm

re: #413 Guanxi88

Yes, but it was nothing until Barry did it. See, before Teh One, it was just a thing to do; now, it's The Thing to Do.

I refuse to give him credit for it. Its bad enough he is taking credit for everything else.

419 Ben G. Hazi  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:34:10pm

re: #57 Charles

Yes -- the Discovery Institute has completely dropped their pretense that "intelligent design" creationism isn't about religion, and now they're simply denying that there's any possible way to reconcile evolution and religious faith.

So, in other words, DI's defense of "intelligent design" has evolved!

///

420 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:34:18pm

re: #396 ssn697

Did anyone catch the Discovery Institutes new website?

You can't be Christian if you believe in Evolution

Looks to me like they have totally given up on the "we are just trying to teach the science" argument, and have finally admitted it is all about religion.

When all else fails, try the truth.

421 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:34:23pm

re: #417 FurryOldGuyJeans

Candy-gram!

Land shark!

422 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:34:44pm

re: #420 Guanxi88

When all else fails, try the truth.

Hey, let's not go crazy here!

///

423 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:35:03pm

re: #402 gtrs

yes, BUT how are they linked to britney spears and lindsay lohan?................./

Geez - not at all. I've really limited my audience, haven't I?

424 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:35:11pm

re: #415 gmsc

Works for me!
;)

Finally they won't have to sneak around and lie to everyone. Let them "witness" to the "truth". Makes it easier to laugh at 'em.

425 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:35:32pm

Did you all discuss Pres. Obama's proposed Value Added Tax yet?

Whose going to pay for those aroma therapy clinics for California jails when states are all bankrupt? (Fox reported California spends 3 times what civilians spend on healthcare, for its pampered jailed prisoners.)

426 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:35:34pm

re: #421 DEZes

Land shark!

The funny thing here is that, at one time, Chevy Chase used to be both funny and relevant.

427 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:36:02pm

re: #420 Guanxi88

When all else fails, try the truth.

...and a little qualia soup wouldn't hurt, either!

428 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:36:38pm

re: #426 Truck Monkey

The funny thing here is that, at one time, Chevy Chase used to be both funny and relevant.

I never found either to be the case, but that is just me.

429 Idle Drifter  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:36:46pm

re: #414 Truck Monkey

The only thing missing is the crushed framed photo of Santa Claus!

Or a dead, psychotic Micky Mouse clone. Wasn't the psychotic Rabbit killed in the recent fighting in Gaza?

430 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:36:54pm

re: #426 Truck Monkey

The funny thing here is that, at one time, Chevy Chase used to be both funny and relevant.

He got full of himself, it happens alot in Hollywood.

431 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:36:57pm

re: #402 gtrs

yes, BUT how are they linked to britney spears and lindsay lohan?................./

I wouldn't mind being linked to either one! ; )

432 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:37:07pm

re: #168 DEZes

Corona literally smell like skunk piss.
And its done on purpose.

I am told that Mexicans laugh themselves silly over the popularity of Corona in the States.

433 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:37:08pm

re: #425 alegrias

Did you all discuss Pres. Obama's proposed Value Added Tax yet?

Whose going to pay for those aroma therapy clinics for California jails when states are all bankrupt? (Fox reported California spends 3 times what civilians spend on healthcare, for its pampered jailed prisoners.)

Do you have a link for that?

434 jcm  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:37:23pm

Gotta run.....

Later Lizards.

435 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:37:39pm

re: #434 jcm

Gotta run.....

Later Lizards.

Take care.

436 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:37:39pm

re: #412 DEZes

Never beg. ;)

"Will beg for dark chocolate!"

437 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:37:48pm

re: #434 jcm

Gotta run.....

Later Lizards.

Later jcm......

438 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:37:59pm

re: #432 unreconstructed rebel

I am told that Mexicans laugh themselves silly over the popularity of Corona in the States.

I can believe that.

439 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:38:31pm

re: #426 Truck Monkey

The funny thing here is that, at one time, Chevy Chase used to be both funny and relevant.

* * * *
Chevy Chase convincingly played an evil totalitarian on the action comedy series "Chuck" recently. I thought it was true to his real self, that pushed Jimmy Carter on us by playing former President Ford as a stumbling bumbling fool. (When in fact Pres. Ford was a decent RHINO and our most gifted athlete president ever)

440 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:38:43pm

re: #417 FurryOldGuyJeans

Candy-gram!

You look like a furry old shark!

441 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:39:05pm

re: #416 Altermite

You're reaching there. More than a bit.

re: #418 Racer X

I refuse to give him credit for it. Its bad enough he is taking credit for everything else.

I don't think so. I'm not all that sure I'd ever seen the gesture outside of the urban youth culture settings, and those taking their cues from it. It sure as hell entered the popular culture pretty damned quickly after the Ascent of Barry, seems to me. It was certainly noted by WaPo columnists as marking a sort of cultural shift of some type, consistent with the image of Obama the Cool.

So, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the fist-bump would have remained firmly within its native cultural milleau had not Barry brought it center-stage and invested it thereby with some of his aura.

442 Mithrax  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:39:05pm

re: #440 debutaunt

You look like a furry old shark!

No, I'm a dolphin!

443 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:39:06pm

re: #436 debutaunt

"Will beg for dark chocolate!"

Okay have a rabbit.
I gotta go too. {Lizards}

444 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:39:10pm

re: #432 unreconstructed rebel

I am told that Mexicans laugh themselves silly over the popularity of Corona in the States.

we ought to retaliate by shipping them nothing but Schlitz........

445 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:39:38pm

re: #443 DEZes

Okay have a rabbit.
I gotta go too. {Lizards}

{DEZ}

446 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:39:38pm

re: #443 DEZes

Okay have a rabbit.
I gotta go too. {Lizards}

See you later DEZes.

447 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:39:51pm

re: #444 LGoPs

we ought to retaliate by shipping them nothing but Schlitz........

What's wrong with Schlitz?
/

448 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:40:28pm

re: #444 LGoPs

we ought to retaliate by shipping them nothing but Schlitz........ Obama

449 itellu3times  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:40:36pm

Republicans vote against evolution, but it still moves.

450 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:40:38pm

re: #436 debutaunt

"Will beg for dark chocolate!"

One of the most effective remedies for coughs is codeine.

However, recent studies have shown that 1,000 mg of theobromine daily has proven 33% more effective that the standard dosage of codeine in combating coughs.

While you could go to your doctor and ask him for a prescription for theobromine, it's much easier to get your daily 1,000 mg of theobromine by eating 2 oz. of dark chocolate!

451 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:40:44pm

re: #433 FurryOldGuyJeans

Do you have a link for that?

* * **
I watched it on Fox News earlier today. California's jail system was turned over to a receiver asking for billions of dollars to "improve prisoner healthcare" including to provide aroma therapy!

Governor Arnold was supposedly considering releasing prisoners to save on their healthcare costs, which as mentioned in the Fox News report, were three times what Californians spend on their own healthcare.

452 Mithrax  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:40:55pm

re: #447 Truck Monkey

What's wrong with Schlitz?
/

Youtube Video
453 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:41:11pm

re: #442 Mithrax

No, I'm a dolphin!

Didju say that on porpoise?

454 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:41:27pm

re: #447 Truck Monkey

What's wrong with Schlitz?
/

The UN has designated Schlitz a WMD..

455 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:41:29pm

re: #447 Truck Monkey

What's wrong with Schlitz?
/

Has unnecessary letters, specifically, "c:, "l", and "z".

456 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:41:32pm

re: #387 lawhawk

Can I get an awwwww from the congregation?

Palestinians still live in misery? You don't say. They've been living in misery for decades because their fellow Arabs decided that refugee camps are the only place for them - decades later, and they're still there. The terrorists use 'em as cannon fodder and couldn't care less about the harm to civilians.

They seem to like bulldozers and backhoes, they should put some of their lazy-assed population to work and clean up that mess.

457 itellu3times  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:42:06pm

re: #396 ssn697

You can't be Christian if you believe in Evolution

You can't be a Christian until you evolve beyond the intelligence of a lemur.

458 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:42:13pm

re: #455 Guanxi88

Has unnecessary letters, specifically, "c:, "l", and "z".

Flicken Schlitz. /

459 Racer X  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:42:26pm

re: #441 Guanxi88

Race car mechanics have been doing the fist bump for decades. Handshake is not good when you are all greasy.

460 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:42:33pm

re: #455 Guanxi88

Has unnecessary letters, specifically, "c:, "l", and "z".

Consonant beer......
:)

461 DEZes  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:42:46pm

re: #455 Guanxi88

Has unnecessary letters, specifically, "c:, "l", and "z".

You can keep the z.
Okay I am really leaving.

462 ArmyWife  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:42:56pm

BBL - going to peruse for fabric for draperies at the new abode.

463 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:43:34pm

re: #459 Racer X

Race car mechanics have been doing the fist bump for decades. Handshake is not good when you are all greasy.

1996 - Al Gore invents the internet.
2009 - Barack Obama invents the fist bump.

464 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:43:41pm

re: #460 LGoPs

Consonant beer......
:)

...to help with vowel movements?

465 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:43:45pm

re: #450 gmsc

One of the most effective remedies for coughs is codeine.

However, recent studies have shown that 1,000 mg of theobromine daily has proven 33% more effective that the standard dosage of codeine in combating coughs.

While you could go to your doctor and ask him for a prescription for theobromine, it's much easier to get your daily 1,000 mg of theobromine by eating 2 oz. of dark chocolate!

I think I love you!

466 Mithrax  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:43:50pm

re: #453 LGoPs

Didju say that on porpoise?

Sheesh. With a joke like that I might thing you were Flippering me off! :P

467 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:44:19pm

re: #459 Racer X

Race car mechanics have been doing the fist bump for decades. Handshake is not good when you are all greasy.

Interesting; I hadn't heard of the use of the gesture by them. Still, when they did it, it was a thing they did. Barry did it, and this for no reason other than to demonstrate that he is hip and cool and with it. Wholly juvenile, wholly inappropriate, wholly undignified; of course, I think the same thing every time I see a leader hug someone.

468 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:44:20pm

re: #464 gmsc

...to help with vowel movements?

Yeh, Schiltz helps with that.......

469 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:44:35pm

re: #464 gmsc

...to help with vowel movements?

Can't have a beer without a bar and stool.

470 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:44:39pm

re: #456 Russkilitlover

They seem to like bulldozers and backhoes, they should put some of their lazy-assed population to work and clean up that mess.

Hell, why do that if others will come in and do it for you?

471 Racer X  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:44:47pm

re: #463 Gus 802

1996 - Al Gore invents the internet.
2009 - Barack Obama invents the fist bump.

Hahahahaha!

472 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:45:09pm

re: #465 debutaunt

I think I love you!

Updinged and favorited!
:)

473 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:45:54pm

re: #455 Guanxi88

Has unnecessary letters, specifically, "c:, "l", and "z".

That's so you can order it at a bar and the bartender won't know you are drunk by how you pronounce it. Pretty forward thinking to name it like that many years before bars were required to cut you off if they thought you'd had a few too many.

474 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:45:55pm

re: #440 debutaunt

You look like a furry old shark!

I have absolutely no clue where the connection between candy-gram and a land shark comes from.

My "candy-gram" comes from an old web-toon made during the first Gulf War having a cruise missile knocking on the door of Saddam's palace. When he asked "who is it?", the missile answered "Candy-gram!" He opened the door and the thing blew up.

Done by the creator of the Flip the Frog and Amy the Squirrel videos and pictures. Big Amiga computer advocate, Eric W. Schwartz.

475 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:46:14pm

re: #456 Russkilitlover

They seem to like bulldozers and backhoes, they should put some of their lazy-assed population to work and clean up that mess.

* * * *
hahaha. Speaking of not cleaning up or working,

Did you read in Egypt recently, the government killed 300,000 pigs belonging to Egypt's Christians, who are the country's garbage collectors? Apparently majority Egyptians don't bother to pick up trash or waste management. I suspect allah objects to recycling & waste management in the koran.

Enter the garbage caste of Christians willing to do the work others won't do in Egypt.

476 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:46:42pm

re: #465 debutaunt

I think I love you!

re: #472 gmsc

Updinged and favorited!
:)

I think LGF is morphing into E-harmony...........
:)

477 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:46:45pm

re: #451 alegrias

* * **
I watched it on Fox News earlier today. California's jail system was turned over to a receiver asking for billions of dollars to "improve prisoner healthcare" including to provide aroma therapy!

Governor Arnold was supposedly considering releasing prisoners to save on their healthcare costs, which as mentioned in the Fox News report, were three times what Californians spend on their own healthcare.

I meant the VAT.

478 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:46:50pm

re: #451 alegrias

* * **
I watched it on Fox News earlier today. California's jail system was turned over to a receiver asking for billions of dollars to "improve prisoner healthcare" including to provide aroma therapy!

Governor Arnold was supposedly considering releasing prisoners to save on their healthcare costs, which as mentioned in the Fox News report, were three times what Californians spend on their own healthcare.

We spend $43,000 per prisoner per year. Florida spends $19,000. We also have an extremely powerful and influential prison workers lobby. I head it put yesterday: CA legislatures are not bribed by the unions, they ARE the unions.

479 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:47:16pm

re: #473 CyanSnowHawk

That's so you can order it at a bar and the bartender won't know you are drunk by how you pronounce it. Pretty forward thinking to name it like that many years before bars were required to cut you off if they thought you'd had a few too many.

If I were a barkeep and got a serious request for Schlitz, I'd be worried. Either the guy's already drunk, is crazy, or doesn't have enough cash to tip with. Regardless, his drunken, crazy, broke ass would be on the pavement.

480 el polacko  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:47:29pm

as i've grown older and become more conservative and disillusioned with the lefty fancies of my youth, i've found myself attracted to republican ideals like limited government, personal liberty, and national defense .. and i've taken a lot of grief from my friends about becoming an evil "republican" which they call me with a sneer.
but then, i see these unanimous votes for anti-science candidates, and republicans dancing with glee over stripping gay citizens of their civil rights and i realize that i cannot align myself with such people either. so what's left for somebody like me ? do i just try to ignore politics and try to live my life as a party of one ?

481 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:47:42pm

re: #465 debutaunt

I think I love you!

Somebody is headed for a chocolate intervention.
/

482 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:47:44pm

re: #476 LGoPs

I think LGF is morphing into E-harmony...........
:)

Dark chocolate will do that, too.

483 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:47:54pm

re: #463 Gus 802

1996 - Al Gore invents the internet.
2009 - Barack Obama invents the fist bump.

* * * * *
You forgot:

1998 - Clinton denies absolute proof of his DNA evidence on blue dress

484 ArmyWife  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:48:02pm

re: #480 el polacko

Tell us how you are feeling. ;)

485 ArmyWife  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:48:23pm

re: #482 gmsc

At least that is what I tell Mr. Armywife...

486 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:48:24pm

You guys really don't like a 40oz Schlitz Malt Liquor Bull a couple times a day?

487 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:48:26pm

re: #481 CyanSnowHawk

Somebody is headed for a chocolate intervention.
/

Yeah, people always seem to skip over that "2 oz." part.

488 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:48:35pm

re: #480 el polacko

as i've grown older and become more conservative and disillusioned with the lefty fancies of my youth, i've found myself attracted to republican ideals like limited government, personal liberty, and national defense .. and i've taken a lot of grief from my friends about becoming an evil "republican" which they call me with a sneer.
but then, i see these unanimous votes for anti-science candidates, and republicans dancing with glee over stripping gay citizens of their civil rights and i realize that i cannot align myself with such people either. so what's left for somebody like me ? do i just try to ignore politics and try to live my life as a party of one ?

Start drinking Schlitz beer.....
/

489 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:48:44pm

re: #477 FurryOldGuyJeans

I meant the VAT.

* * * * *
Just google VAT and President Obama, something massive will come up.

490 VegasRick  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:48:54pm

re: #474 FurryOldGuyJeans

I have absolutely no clue where the connection between candy-gram and a land shark comes from.

My "candy-gram" comes from an old web-toon made during the first Gulf War having a cruise missile knocking on the door of Saddam's palace. When he asked "who is it?", the missile answered "Candy-gram!" He opened the door and the thing blew up.

Done by the creator of the Flip the Frog and Amy the Squirrel videos and pictures. Big Amiga computer advocate, Eric W. Schwartz.

Old SNL skits, John Belushi.

491 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:49:10pm

re: #486 Truck Monkey

You guys really don't like a 40oz Schlitz Malt Liquor Bull a couple times a day?

Only for breakfast........
:)

492 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:49:24pm

re: #480 el polacko

as i've grown older and become more conservative and disillusioned with the lefty fancies of my youth, i've found myself attracted to republican ideals like limited government, personal liberty, and national defense .. and i've taken a lot of grief from my friends about becoming an evil "republican" which they call me with a sneer.
but then, i see these unanimous votes for anti-science candidates, and republicans dancing with glee over stripping gay citizens of their civil rights and i realize that i cannot align myself with such people either. so what's left for somebody like me ? do i just try to ignore politics and try to live my life as a party of one ?

There is the party of Independent waiting for ya! ;)

493 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:50:02pm

re: #480 el polacko

as i've grown older and become more conservative and disillusioned with the lefty fancies of my youth, i've found myself attracted to republican ideals like limited government, personal liberty, and national defense .. and i've taken a lot of grief from my friends about becoming an evil "republican" which they call me with a sneer.
but then, i see these unanimous votes for anti-science candidates, and republicans dancing with glee over stripping gay citizens of their civil rights and i realize that i cannot align myself with such people either. so what's left for somebody like me ? do i just try to ignore politics and try to live my life as a party of one ?

re: #488 LGoPs

Start drinking Schlitz beer.....
/

Yeah, then politics becomes the least of your concerns

494 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:50:20pm

re: #488 LGoPs

Start drinking Schlitz beer.....
/

Hell, why didn't you just tell him to piss up a rope:)

495 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:50:21pm

re: #490 VegasRick

Old SNL skits, John Belushi.

That explains why I haven't a clue. I would rather be Red than watch SNL. ;)

496 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:50:46pm

re: #474 FurryOldGuyJeans

I have absolutely no clue where the connection between candy-gram and a land shark comes from.

My "candy-gram" comes from an old web-toon made during the first Gulf War having a cruise missile knocking on the door of Saddam's palace. When he asked "who is it?", the missile answered "Candy-gram!" He opened the door and the thing blew up.

Done by the creator of the Flip the Frog and Amy the Squirrel videos and pictures. Big Amiga computer advocate, Eric W. Schwartz.

I know you aren't familiar with SNL, but it was an early skit.

497 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:50:52pm

re: #478 Russkilitlover

We spend $43,000 per prisoner per year. Florida spends $19,000. We also have an extremely powerful and influential prison workers lobby. I head it put yesterday: CA legislatures are not bribed by the unions, they ARE the unions.

* * * *
It's clear Arnold Schwartzenegger's use of steroids shrank his gonads, because he has caved totally to California's unions, or if he put up a good fight, I missed it.

Goobernator 0, California Unions 100%

498 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:50:55pm

re: #474 FurryOldGuyJeans

I have absolutely no clue where the connection between candy-gram and a land shark comes from.

My "candy-gram" comes from an old web-toon made during the first Gulf War having a cruise missile knocking on the door of Saddam's palace. When he asked "who is it?", the missile answered "Candy-gram!" He opened the door and the thing blew up.

Done by the creator of the Flip the Frog and Amy the Squirrel videos and pictures. Big Amiga computer advocate, Eric W. Schwartz.

Also draws the Sabrina Skunk web comic. I've been following his work since I was seriously into Amigas back in the late 80s.

499 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:50:59pm

A husband gets ready for bed, while his wife is already in bed.

After he changes, he comes out of the bathroom in his pajamas, and hands his wife a bottle of Tylenol. Confused, she asks, "What's this for?"

"Your headache," the husband replies.

She says, "But I don't have a headache."

The husband replies, "AH–HA!"

500 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:51:04pm

re: #486 Truck Monkey

You guys really don't like a 40oz Schlitz Malt Liquor Bull a couple times a day?

Depends on whether we're headed out or on the way back.

501 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:51:48pm

Candy-gram!

I always attributed that to Blazing Saddles.
Candy-gram for Mongo!

502 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:51:48pm

re: #489 alegrias

* * * * *
Just google VAT and President Obama, something massive will come up.

I have done so and gotten a lot of hyperventilating BS, but then I yahooed instead of googling. I thought you might have had something a bit more substantive.

503 avanti  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:51:59pm

Here's a piece on Gates that should give you some idea of the mans plans for the DOD. I doubt all of you will agree with them.

link

504 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:52:02pm

re: #486 Truck Monkey

You guys really don't like a 40oz Schlitz Malt Liquor Bull a couple times a day?

* * * *
I find those cans tossed all over public housing I walk through.

Your tax dollars at work!

505 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:52:47pm

re: #481 CyanSnowHawk

Somebody is headed for a chocolate intervention.
/

I only eat it for my health. *giggle*

506 Randall Gross  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:52:47pm

re: #474 FurryOldGuyJeans

I have absolutely no clue where the connection between candy-gram and a land shark comes from.

My "candy-gram" comes from an old web-toon made during the first Gulf War having a cruise missile knocking on the door of Saddam's palace. When he asked "who is it?", the missile answered "Candy-gram!" He opened the door and the thing blew up.

Done by the creator of the Flip the Frog and Amy the Squirrel videos and pictures. Big Amiga computer advocate, Eric W. Schwartz.

Old Saturday Night Live bit ... Richard Dreyfus as guest host, Jaws shows up with a candygram for Dreyfus.

It really originated looneytunes and later with Mel Brooks however:

Youtube Video
507 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:52:51pm

re: #498 CyanSnowHawk

Also draws the Sabrina Skunk web comic. I've been following his work since I was seriously into Amigas back in the late 80s.

I know about Sabrina! Nice to see someone else who knows about her! ;)

Ever seen the Amy the Squirrel pictorial history?

508 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:53:12pm

A family friend's child is one of the 11 finalists in the National Spelling Bee in a few minutes! It's on ABC, but I love that he was on ESPN this afternoon. "I may be beaten up and given wedgies every day, but I was on ESPN and you weren't!" That is funny.

509 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:53:14pm

re: #502 FurryOldGuyJeans

I have done so and gotten a lot of hyperventilating BS, but then I yahooed instead of googling. I thought you might have had something a bit more substantive.

Try this one:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

510 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:54:04pm

re: #487 gmsc

Yeah, people always seem to skip over that "2 oz." part.

Well, it doesn't come in that size.

511 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:54:17pm

re: #504 alegrias

* * * *
I find those cans tossed all over public housing I walk through.

Your tax dollars at work!

Are you 5-0?

512 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:54:32pm

re: #510 debutaunt

Well, it doesn't come in that size.

2 lb?

513 Mithrax  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:54:36pm

re: #510 debutaunt

Well, it doesn't come in that size.

Oh, the jokes that you could make with THAT one!

514 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:56:06pm

re: #502 FurryOldGuyJeans

I have done so and gotten a lot of hyperventilating BS, but then I yahooed instead of googling. I thought you might have had something a bit more substantive.

* * * *
Someone from the Fox Business Network/Channel discussed the VAT will likely be used because tax revenues have fallen and Pres. Obama needs cash.

Nothing this administration does to take taxpayers' money will surprise me after what they've already done.

515 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:57:06pm

re: #511 Truck Monkey

Are you 5-0?

* * **
?What are you asking? I don't understand!

516 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:57:42pm

re: #514 alegrias

* * * *
Someone from the Fox Business Network/Channel discussed the VAT will likely be used because tax revenues have fallen and Pres. Obama needs cash.

Nothing this administration does to take taxpayers' money will surprise me after what they've already done.

The VAT will be a good way to Europeanize our economy very rapidly. Terrific.

517 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:58:07pm

re: #515 alegrias

* * **
?What are you asking? I don't understand!

The Police?

518 debutaunt  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:58:55pm

re: #508 Spenser (with an S)

A family friend's child is one of the 11 finalists in the National Spelling Bee in a few minutes! It's on ABC, but I love that he was on ESPN this afternoon. "I may be beaten up and given wedgies every day, but I was on ESPN and you weren't!" That is funny.

I love the spelling bee and have the ESPN part on TIVO.

519 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:59:02pm

re: #514 alegrias

* * * *
Nothing this administration does to take taxpayers' money will surprise me after what they've already done.

Oh, I think they'll rise to the occasion and come up with something to surprise even you. Might I suggest the following possibilities?

1) Rescue Social Security via nationalization of private pensions?
2) "one-time" wealth and asset taxes?
3) Swaps of Treasuries for Preferred Stock, as a way to Nationalize the market and thereby save Social Security and bailout the "failing" firms on wall street?

I could go on. Trust me, something they come up with will surprise you.

520 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:59:19pm

re: #517 Truck Monkey

The Police?

Is this a Sting?

521 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:59:33pm

re: #516 Truck Monkey

The VAT will be a good way to Europeanize our economy very rapidly. Terrific.

We'll go one better than Europe. The VAT idea that is conspicuously floating around is IN ADDITION TO income taxes. Isn't that special?

522 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 4:59:38pm

re: #517 Truck Monkey

The Police?

re: #520 Guanxi88

Is this a Sting?

Talk about Synchronicity!

523 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:00:33pm

Big game tonight Lizards..It do or die time for the Cav's..
King James can't lose and he is the MVP and will come out to destroy the Magic..But the Magic have just been playing great defense and they own the paint.. Howard can't make a shot more than a foot from the Hoop but who cares? The Magic have some shooters..And hot shooters will kill you
This will be an epic clash in 30 minutes..

524 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:00:49pm

re: #519 Guanxi88

Oh, I think they'll rise to the occasion and come up with something to surprise even you. Might I suggest the following possibilities?

1) Rescue Social Security via nationalization of private pensions?
2) "one-time" wealth and asset taxes?
3) Swaps of Treasuries for Preferred Stock, as a way to Nationalize the market and thereby save Social Security and bailout the "failing" firms on wall street?

I could go on. Trust me, something they come up with will surprise you.

I like this idea:

Youtube Video
525 The Other Les  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:00:56pm

re: #1 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Five bucks on #390

Aren't supposed to be betting in quatloos?

526 The Other Les  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:01:23pm

Blast From The Past

"Let it be asked how any person wholly devoid of talent, skill, accomplishment, wit, beauty, charm, or even the practical ability to earn a living by routine labor, can conceivably become an object of flattering, greeted with applause and given a hearing for the feeblest inanities -- obviously nothing will serve except political position."

-- Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)


We should consider ourselves fortunate that The Big Zero is actually a mere mortal who is only deified by the press and some of his supporters. The alternative is much worse.

527 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:02:21pm

re: #526 The Other Les

Blast From The Past


We should consider ourselves fortunate that The Big Zero is actually a mere mortal who is only deified by the press and some of his supporters. The alternative is much worse.

The rest of us just defied him.
;)

528 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:02:47pm

re: #524 gmsc

I like this idea:

That'll work. Wisdom from the man in the funny suit!

529 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:02:54pm

re: #514 alegrias

* * * *
Someone from the Fox Business Network/Channel discussed the VAT will likely be used because tax revenues have fallen and Pres. Obama needs cash.

Nothing this administration does to take taxpayers' money will surprise me after what they've already done.

And the sheep are just lining up to be shorn.

530 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:03:19pm

re: #528 Guanxi88

That'll work. Wisdom from the man in the funny suit!

Dig the groovy threads man.

//

531 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:03:45pm

re: #528 Guanxi88

That'll work. Wisdom from the man in the funny suit!

Nipsey Russell was full of good thoughts!

532 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:04:19pm

re: #497 alegrias

* * * *
It's clear Arnold Schwartzenegger's use of steroids shrank his gonads, because he has caved totally to California's unions, or if he put up a good fight, I missed it.

Goobernator 0, California Unions 100%

His ass got handed to him with his first set of initiatives (2004 IIRC) that the unions defeated. Since then he has gone the compromise road, with predictable results. I believe he is termed out now and cannot run for Governor again. It will be interesting to see how he reacts to the failure of the last initiative from the special election a couple weeks ago. Can he lay the blame for the state of our State on the legislature, where it really belongs?

533 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:05:04pm

re: #531 gmsc

Nipsey Russell was full of good thoughts!

First time I ever heard the name was in connection with Milk & Cheese, playing "No-Talent Celebrity Tag".

/ Obscure reference, I know, but true.

534 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:05:09pm

re: #528 Guanxi88

That'll work. Wisdom from the man in the funny suit!

More appropriate thoughts (from the link in #531):

Youtube Video
535 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:05:39pm

re: #532 CyanSnowHawk

His ass got handed to him with his first set of initiatives (2004 IIRC) that the unions defeated. Since then he has gone the compromise road, with predictable results. I believe he is termed out now and cannot run for Governor again. It will be interesting to see how he reacts to the failure of the last initiative from the special election a couple weeks ago. Can he lay the blame for the state of our State on the legislature, where it really belongs?

He will redeem himself somewhat in my eyes if he can do that.

536 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:06:09pm

re: #507 FurryOldGuyJeans

I know about Sabrina! Nice to see someone else who knows about her! ;)

Ever seen the Amy the Squirrel pictorial history?

I believe I have. I used to collect his artwork and animations whenever I found them.

537 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:06:56pm

re: #531 gmsc

Nipsey Russell was full of good thoughts!

The White Man really gave him a horrible name! Almost as bad as Stepin Fetchit.
/

538 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:07:32pm

re: #532 CyanSnowHawk

Can he lay the blame for the state of our State on the legislature, where it really belongs?

Isn't the bigger question- Will the voters lay blame on the legislature?

539 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:08:06pm

re: #534 gmsc

More appropriate thoughts (from the link in #531):

[Video]

Nipsey Russell

Born in Atlanta, Georgia, Russell went to Booker T. Washington High School in Atlanta and attended the University of Cincinnati for one semester in 1936. He served as a medic in the United States Army during World War II, enlisting as a private on June 27, 1941, and returning from Europe in 1945 as a second lieutenant. He got his start in the 1940s as a carhop at the Atlanta drive-in The Varsity, where he increased the tips he earned by making customers laugh. He was discovered after he began performing in nightclubs in the 1950s. He subsequently made many "party albums," which were essentially compilations of his stand-up routines.

540 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:08:38pm

I think we need a thread on the car dealership conspiracy theory so we can clean the air.

541 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:08:56pm

re: #538 screaming_eagle

Can he lay the blame for the state of our State on the legislature, where it really belongs?

Isn't the bigger question- Will the voters lay blame on the legislature?

They may be ripe for it if he strikes with the message soon. After the recent slap in the face of the referendums I think many people are alert and listening. At least I hope so.

542 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:09:04pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

I think we need a thread on the car dealership conspiracy theory so we can clean the air.

Huh?

543 Racer X  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:09:30pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

I think we need a thread on the car dealership conspiracy theory so we can clean the air.

Nah. Keep that one muffled.

544 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:09:51pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

I think we need a thread on the car dealership conspiracy theory so we can clean the air.

Stop it ferChryslerssake........
/

545 jacksontn  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:10:10pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

I think we need a thread on the car dealership conspiracy theory so we can clean the air.

Killgore ... this may get me banned or downdinged ... but are you Obama's truth squad? ... it is a link that someone posted ... no one here was even talking about it till you just did ...

546 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:10:15pm

re: #517 Truck Monkey

The Police?

* * *
I'm a neighbor to public housing, not a police officer. Supposedly police officers live in the public housing--which remains yucky & full of broken bottles & open air drug markets!

547 Gus  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:10:17pm

re: #544 LGoPs

Stop it ferChryslerssake........
/

Good Pointiac.

548 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:10:17pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

I think we need a thread on the car dealership conspiracy theory so we can clean the air.

Shhh! If you keep talking like that, Barry'll take your car away, too!

549 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:11:16pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

I think we need a thread on the car dealership conspiracy theory so we can clean the air.

Let it run in the garage with the door closed. That should take care of it.

550 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:11:52pm

re: #542 Truck Monkey

It's among the highest rated links in the spinoffs. Kinda embarrassing.

551 Sharmuta  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:11:54pm
Gov. Rick Perry, who nominated McLeroy, will now have to select another member of the board to serve as chairman. Whoever is picked will not have to face Senate confirmation until the 2011 legislative session, unless there is a special session before then.

This means more supporters for science need to step up and run for school board. Hopefully, more pro-science republicans will step up like one of our very own Lizards did. And not just in Texas- but all across the country.

552 JacksonTn  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:11:55pm

re: #549 CyanSnowHawk

Let it run in the garage with the door closed. That should take care of it.

CSH .. ROFLMAO ...

553 avanti  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:12:08pm

re: #545 jacksontn

. but are you Obama's truth squad? ...

Hey, that's my job, damn it. :)

554 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:13:09pm

re: #541 LGoPs

They may be ripe for it if he strikes with the message soon. After the recent slap in the face of the referendums I think many people are alert and listening. At least I hope so.


Gonna be interesting to watch. Our state could be next.

555 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:13:34pm

re: #545 jacksontn

Don't worry. Insulting me will win you plenty of friends around here.

556 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:13:42pm

re: #554 screaming_eagle

Gonna be interesting to watch. Our state could be next.

Where are you at?

557 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:13:44pm

re: #535 LGoPs

He will redeem himself somewhat in my eyes if he can do that.

* * * * *
President Obama is teaching how to do SHOCK & AWE right.

Come out of the gate swinging & bat them out of the park, before people know what's happening.

Republicans should take notes. Arnold Schwartzenegger was meek & mild, only talked a good game.

An Obamanator Governor would have kicked ass, taken names & cut cut cut from day one.

558 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:14:21pm

re: #553 avanti

Hey, that's my job, damn it. :)

Well, we hate for you to hear about it like this, and we'd wanted to wait til Friday to tell you, but, you know, hard times, belt-tightening, and all that sorta thing. Anyway, you're fired. You can keep working here, but it'll be strictly on a volunteer basis, and you'll need to pay rent for use of bandwidth. Sorry.

559 screaming_eagle  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:14:25pm

re: #556 LGoPs

Where are you at?

Ohio

560 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:14:47pm

re: #557 alegrias

* * * * *
President Obama is teaching how to do SHOCK & AWE right.

Come out of the gate swinging & bat them out of the park, before people know what's happening.

Republicans should take notes. Arnold Schwartzenegger was meek & mild, only talked a good game.

An Obamanator Governor would have kicked ass, taken names & cut cut cut from day one.

Here, here.

561 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:15:07pm

re: #556 LGoPs

Where are you at?

What is this, a Boost Mobile ad?

562 brookly red  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:15:30pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

I think we need a thread on the car dealership conspiracy theory so we can clean the air.

I seem to remember the management saying one is coming...

563 Mr Secul  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:15:34pm

There is a fair chance that scientists will show that its likely that the operation of natural laws can account for abiogenesis and evolution.

This doesn't disprove God because many religious people believe that God made those laws.

Can they prove it? I think not.

Is it just chance that the laws are capable of this feat?

Many atheists think so.

Can they prove it? I think not.

The DI crowd are worried that people will abandon faith if they are convinced that natural laws are sufficient to explain life.

So they try to argue that natural laws on their own are insufficient to achieve life.

But if all Christians and like minded theists are right then the natural laws have never been on their own.

God made them and God made/makes them work. Either he spoke the magic words to spring them into existence and needed to do nothing further.

Or he is running around like a blue arsed fly to keep the plates spinning.

Either way, if they are sufficient then that is because he made/makes sure that they were sufficient.

Either his word was enough: he makes a law and the electrons just obey it. Or his invisible hands spin every electron around every atom for every nano-second of the universe's existence.

Since we can't see his hands, if natural laws are sufficient then the universe looks the same whether he exists or not.

Can natural laws be shown to be insufficient?

If your current understanding says the are not sufficient how do you know that a better understanding wont show that you were wrong to think that they were insufficient?

Does HIV's acquisition of features that Behe claims are beyond evolution show that Behe was wrong? Or does it show that God helped HIV?

The whole religion/evolution argument seems pointless. Sufficiency of natural laws does not disprove God. Insufficiency shows there is something left unexplained. This may or may not be God.

Why can't people just let the scientists get on with working out the natural laws and we can raise a generation that better understands the natural world?

564 Athens Runaway  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:15:49pm

re: #559 screaming_eagle

Hurray for Buckeye Lizards!

/a Buckeye and Lizard

565 avanti  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:16:05pm

re: #558 Guanxi88

Well, we hate for you to hear about it like this, and we'd wanted to wait til Friday to tell you, but, you know, hard times, belt-tightening, and all that sorta thing. Anyway, you're fired. You can keep working here, but it'll be strictly on a volunteer basis, and you'll need to pay rent for use of bandwidth. Sorry.

Crap, I was supposed to be getting paid ?

566 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:16:32pm

re: #551 Sharmuta

This means more supporters for science need to step up and run for school board. Hopefully, more pro-science republicans will step up like one of our very own Lizards did. And not just in Texas- but all across the country.

* * * *
Hey, let's appropriate 6 billion dollars for embryonic research like California did! And now they're bankrupt...not that there's anything wrong with that old fashioned concept of balanced budget....

567 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:16:49pm

re: #565 avanti

Crap, I was supposed to be getting paid ?

You WERE getting paid, but rent ate it all up.

568 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:16:54pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout

It's among the highest rated links in the spinoffs. Kinda embarrassing.

The funny thing is that none of the dealerships should have been closed. The dealers do not cost either GM or Chrysler ANYTHING to operate. In fact, dealerships are required by contract to purchase parts and service cars as a service TO the auto manufacturers. If I owned a dealership that just had a contract severed I would hire the meanest pack of lawyers to chase after everyone involved in this decision. I could care less about the specific dealers 'attributes'.

569 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:17:16pm

re: #558 Guanxi88

Well, we hate for you to hear about it like this, and we'd wanted to wait til Friday to tell you, but, you know, hard times, belt-tightening, and all that sorta thing. Anyway, you're fired. You can keep working here, but it'll be strictly on a volunteer basis, and you'll need to pay rent for use of bandwidth. Sorry.

LOL....
:)

570 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:17:40pm

re: #541 LGoPs

They may be ripe for it if he strikes with the message soon. After the recent slap in the face of the referendums I think many people are alert and listening. At least I hope so.

Won't get any coverage. All of the MSM in the State basically ignored the result. May 18th, they couldn't talk enough about how the State was going to crash if the initiatives didn't pass. May 20th, you had to wait ten minutes into the news to get a result, and if you blinked, you missed it.

571 brookly red  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:17:46pm

re: #565 avanti

Crap, I was supposed to be getting paid ?

now about the back taxes...

572 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:17:47pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout

It's among the highest rated links in the spinoffs. Kinda embarrassing.

Story had no legs..Most car dealerships for the last 8 years during 2 wars have donated money to the GOP...No surprise that the closure rate was skewed towards the GOP...
You are right KT.. People are just ready to jump on anything..embarrassing..
Haven't seen many grown ups since the election...

573 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:17:53pm

re: #523 HoosierHoops good luck to the cavs; GO MAGIC!

574 Racer X  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:18:40pm

Mommy, what's a 'car dealership'?

575 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:18:57pm

re: #565 avanti

Crap, I was supposed to be getting paid ?

Yeah. We pretended to pay you and you pretended to make sensible comments.....
/ :)

576 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:19:53pm

re: #556 LGoPs

Where are you at?

Oi. Please do not end your sentence with a preposition. From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I shall not put. //

577 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:20:16pm

re: #572 HoosierHoops

Story had no legs..Most car dealerships for the last 8 years during 2 wars have donated money to the GOP...No surprise that the closure rate was skewed towards the GOP...
You are right KT.. People are just ready to jump on anything..embarrassing..
Haven't seen many grown ups since the election...

Oh crap! i wasn't talking about fellow lizards!
/Don't ding me bro!
LOL

578 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:20:27pm

re: #574 Racer X

Mommy, what's a 'car dealership'?

* * * *
No kidding!

I read in recent The Weekly Standard cover article about E-bay's founder and future GOP candidate for California governor, Meg Whitman, that E-Bay is the world's largest car selling business.

Anyone else see that?

579 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:20:30pm

re: #569 LGoPs

LOL....
:)

I remember, at another job I had, that I had gotten so good at firing people that I once managed to fire an employee in the parking lot before she'd even managed to shut off the engine of her car. Fired her that fast.

Another time, I had an employee we were about to can, who held a very sensitive job, to assist in screening and interviewing her replacements. We did it like this - we dropped hints all over the place that she was about to get promoted to a just-opened position one rank above hers, and so we'd need to make sure that we found the right person to take over her duties. Cold-blooded, I know, but that was how Management wanted it done.

580 snowcrash  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:20:35pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout
The link titled "Dealergate" or the Malkin /OReilly fallout?

581 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:20:37pm

re: #570 CyanSnowHawk

Won't get any coverage. All of the MSM in the State basically ignored the result. May 18th, they couldn't talk enough about how the State was going to crash if the initiatives didn't pass. May 20th, you had to wait ten minutes into the news to get a result, and if you blinked, you missed it.

I'm afraid you're right. I really do despise the media. They control the debate...or lack of it.

582 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:21:46pm

re: #572 HoosierHoops

Story had no legs..Most car dealerships for the last 8 years during 2 wars have donated money to the GOP...No surprise that the closure rate was skewed towards the GOP...
You are right KT.. People are just ready to jump on anything..embarrassing..
Haven't seen many grown ups since the election...

The tricky part is talking people off the ledge. A lot of people really need to believe this stuff.

583 brookly red  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:21:49pm

re: #574 Racer X

Mommy, what's a 'car dealership'?

well once upon a time, back when bad people believed that they had the right to own things...

584 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:22:03pm

re: #576 Truck Monkey

Oi. Please do not end your sentence with a preposition. From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I shall not put. //

Sorry. Spent too many years in the infantry. It destroyed my eloquence and sense of grammar.
:)

585 Lincolntf  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:22:15pm

re: #568 Truck Monkey

I think it's obvious that Obama had no intention of "saving" the auto industry. He just wanted to carve out a huge chunk for the UAW before they went into bankruptcy. Now they're all bankrupt, dealerships are closing, people are losing jobs (all the things that Obama was going to "prevent"with our billions of dollars) but the Union will reap whatever profits are left.
It was a dirty deal done by dirty people with dirty pasts and dirtier futures.

586 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:22:20pm

Good night lizards. Time to quit pretending to work and head home.

587 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:22:21pm

re: #563 Mr Secul

This doesn't disprove God because many religious people believe that God made those laws.

Can they prove it? I think not.

Is it just chance that the laws are capable of this feat?

Bzzzt . . . the burden of proof is on the one making the extraordinary claim. If you want people who require proof to believe an extraordinary claim, offer up your extraordinary evidence.

If you don't want to worry about swaying people who require proof of a statement, don't worry about them.

588 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:22:24pm

OT ALERT

ACORN leaders are on Bill O'Reilly on Fox right now!

589 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:23:12pm

re: #573 gtrs

good luck to the cavs; GO MAGIC!

I like the Magic in this series ..I'm just blown away by the hard defense and just man up toughness...and good shooting..I'm impressed

590 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:23:48pm

ACORN claims they help protect children from lead poisoning. (Fox News)

591 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:24:07pm

re: #588 alegrias

OT ALERT

ACORN leaders are on Bill O'Reilly on Fox right now!

I wish some giant squirrels would come in and eat them.......
/

592 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:24:13pm

re: #590 alegrias

ACORN claims they help protect children from lead poisoning. (Fox News)

They also prevent cavities and build strong bodies three ways.

593 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:24:45pm

re: #580 snowcrash

There are 3 or 4 versions of the dealergate story in the spinoffs. I watch Malkin's appearance on fox this morning. She came off as crazy and angry. Not good.

594 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:24:51pm

re: #579 Guanxi88

I remember, at another job I had, that I had gotten so good at firing people that I once managed to fire an employee in the parking lot before she'd even managed to shut off the engine of her car. Fired her that fast.

Another time, I had an employee we were about to can, who held a very sensitive job, to assist in screening and interviewing her replacements. We did it like this - we dropped hints all over the place that she was about to get promoted to a just-opened position one rank above hers, and so we'd need to make sure that we found the right person to take over her duties. Cold-blooded, I know, but that was how Management wanted it done.

You are evil.

595 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:25:07pm

CEO & CHief Organizer of ACORN says she has no tolerance for "misdoings".

No wrongdoing allowed, she says!

596 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:25:17pm

re: #592 Guanxi88

They also prevent cavities and build strong bodies three ways.

And 4 out of 5 Dentists recommend them.

597 avanti  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:25:42pm

re: #578 alegrias

* * * *
No kidding!

I read in recent The Weekly Standard cover article about E-bay's founder and future GOP candidate for California governor, Meg Whitman, that E-Bay is the world's largest car selling business.

Anyone else see that?

That makes sense, and I'm the world largest Studebaker dealer. I sell 12-30 a year on ebay.

598 legalpad  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:25:51pm

Anybody hear Obama say that SotoMayor's appointment shows what people can do in America "no matter what they look like?"

599 gmsc  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:26:18pm

re: #588 alegrias

OT ALERT

ACORN leaders are on Bill O'Reilly on Fox right now!

Speaking of acorns (Jump to 2:23 to 3:14):

Youtube Video
600 Guanxi88  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:26:31pm

re: #594 Alouette

You are evil.

Well, it was one of those things, you know. Them or me, as it were. I hate that anybody got screwed over like that, but if I have to pick who it should be, it shouldn't be me.

Sad to say, the pay when I was doing this was lousy, but at least the hours were long.

601 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:26:54pm

re: #598 legalpad

Anybody hear Obama say that SotoMayor's appointment shows what people can do in America "no matter what they look like?"

Says the man with the ginormous ears.....
/

602 Sharmuta  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:27:09pm

re: #550 Killgore Trout

Fact checking is a dying art form.

603 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:27:10pm

re: #597 avanti

That makes sense, and I'm the world largest Studebaker dealer. I sell 12-30 a year on ebay.

Do you look to purchase Studebakers as well. Do you recondition them?

604 alegrias  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:27:12pm

OT
Maryland's ACORN chairman, Rev. Gloria Swieringa, is a blind woman and head of ACORN's Board!

605 Sharmuta  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:28:04pm

re: #566 alegrias

* * * *
Hey, let's appropriate 6 billion dollars for embryonic research like California did! And now they're bankrupt...not that there's anything wrong with that old fashioned concept of balanced budget....

WTF does that have to do with what I said?

606 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:28:20pm

OK lizards, c ya Saturday night! I'm outa here.

I will keep you in mind as I enjoy my cheesecake (I have sent the recipe to reine for the next cookbook)

607 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:28:22pm

re: #580 snowcrash

The link titled "Dealergate" or the Malkin /OReilly fallout?

I couldn't find the Malkin/Oreilly fallout. Where is it?

608 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:28:28pm

re: #601 LGoPs

Says the man with the ginormous ears.....
/

If you look at him from behind he looks like a VW Bug with the doors open!

609 brookly red  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:28:39pm

re: #595 alegrias

CEO & CHief Organizer of ACORN says she has no tolerance for "misdoings".

No wrongdoing allowed, she says!

we are soooo fucked.

610 avanti  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:29:10pm

re: #603 Truck Monkey

I buy them, and prep them ebay resale, some I buy on ebay, some from leads and other sources.

611 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:29:10pm

re: #602 Sharmuta

It's going to be really hard to run a "reality based" conservative friendly blog for the next 8 years.

612 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:29:14pm

re: #78 Walter L. Newton

Walter, as a Christian...I deeply appreciated that post.

613 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:29:17pm

re: #589 HoosierHoops

i said it before; le bron IS the best player on the floor BUT the second, third, fourth, and FIFTH best players are wearing magic jersey's

614 Lincolntf  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:29:22pm

re: #604 alegrias

Who better to check the voter registration cards than a blind woman?
Plausible deniability, my friend, plausible deniability...

615 Truck Monkey  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:29:32pm

re: #604 alegrias

OT
Maryland's ACORN chairman, Rev. Gloria Swieringa, is a blind woman and head of ACORN's Board!

How could she be expected to see any wrongdoings then?

/I know. WHACK!

616 anchors_aweigh  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:29:39pm

Does anybody know how many times Texas Republican governor Rick Perry picked McElroy to head the Texas State Board of Education?

617 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:30:07pm

re: #598 legalpad

Really? I'm glad he is not George Bush. There'd be headlines for a month!

618 Sharmuta  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:30:21pm

re: #611 Killgore Trout

I know. Now I'm getting dinged down for not defending this "blogger"

[Link: www.citmedialaw.org...]

619 legalpad  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:30:29pm

re: #601 LGoPs

Says the man with the ginormous ears.....
/

Right - but it's funny no media seems to be talking about it. Maybe if Biden said it would be funny and "newsworthy."

620 JacksonTn  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:31:26pm

re: #611 Killgore Trout

It's going to be really hard to run a "reality based" conservative friendly blog for the next 8 years.

KT ... why do you say 8 years? ... do you know something about the next prez election we don't ... I am not giving up on The Won losing the next election ... not until the last vote is counted ...

621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:31:54pm

re: #613 gtrs

It is difficult, in the NBA to win 1 on 5 basketball with consistency.

622 LGoPs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:32:47pm

re: #600 Guanxi88

Well, it was one of those things, you know. Them or me, as it were. I hate that anybody got screwed over like that, but if I have to pick who it should be, it shouldn't be me.

Sad to say, the pay when I was doing this was lousy, but at least the hours were long.

Almost describes me......"I may be slow, but my work is poor"
/

623 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:33:02pm

re: #610 avanti

I buy them, and prep them ebay resale, some I buy on ebay, some from leads and other sources.

Did you see i posted awhile back I saw a soft pink Avanti..Was it orginal color or painted? I drove a real honest to gawd 56 pink Cadillac last month..And seriously..The owner had an Elvis wig..and I wore it! the looks were priceless..
I didn't wave..I pointed!

624 Michael Perz  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:34:26pm

re: #152 Charles

Wow, this is the first I've ever heard of these films. Sorry for taking this off-topic, but I'm really intrigued by this other clip from the same film. The first thing that came to mind was this scene from Agnieszka Holland's Europa Europa. Skip to the 1:45 mark.

625 J.S.  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:35:13pm

re: #572 HoosierHoops

I recently read an interesting explanation as to why people may fall for conspiracy theories...(it has to do with a confusion regarding Bayesian statistics...or conditional probabilities...)

626 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:35:21pm

re: #613 gtrs

i said it before; le bron IS the best player on the floor BUT the second, third, fourth, and FIFTH best players are wearing magic jersey's

The Cav's bench would get killed by the Tar Heels..Pathetic production...

627 legalpad  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:35:51pm

re: #617 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really? I'm glad he is not George Bush. There'd be headlines for a month!

Yep. My wife and I both saw it. And yeah, major example of the double standard.

628 avanti  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:36:28pm

re: #623 HoosierHoops

Did you see i posted awhile back I saw a soft pink Avanti..Was it orginal color or painted? I drove a real honest to gawd 56 pink Cadillac last month..And seriously..The owner had an Elvis wig..and I wore it! the looks were priceless..
I didn't wave..I pointed!

No, but I did post a 61 Hawk in that color.

Hawk.

629 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:37:11pm

re: #616 anchors_aweigh you know those creationists always stick together......../

630 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:38:32pm

re: #626 HoosierHoops
another PLUS for the magic; the magic bench has been huge so far in the series

631 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:38:54pm

re: #628 avanti

No, but I did post a 61 Hawk in that color.

Hawk.

That looks like the car..I saw a hawk then...But then again..I've never heard of an Avanti till you showed up...

632 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:39:04pm

rafer starts out with a 3!

633 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:44:18pm

Watch for Perry to nominate Cynthia Dunbar, who is unabashedly theocratic (and who also opined that Obama, if elected, would declare martial law within the first 6 months of taking office...)

[Link: www.chron.com...]

634 Digital Display  Thu, May 28, 2009 5:50:12pm

re: #632 gtrs

rafer starts out with a 3!

Do or die..win or go home...
I played point in college..I'll have some comments about the bench point play after the first quarter...They pay you 10 million to dish the ball to the open player...Why are you chucking the ball? The basics of ball have been lost

635 Animal  Thu, May 28, 2009 6:02:23pm

re: #327 DEZes

Details, pictures, links?

Their names were Penny and Dina. And that's all the details you're gonna get. ;)

636 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 6:05:26pm

re: #634 HoosierHoops especially with a beast like howard at the rim

637 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, May 28, 2009 6:07:01pm

re: #567 Guanxi88

You WERE getting paid, but rent ate it all up.

Now wait for him to get his Obama tax assessment bill, nyah!

638 gtrs  Thu, May 28, 2009 6:09:35pm

magic need to cut the lead to about 11 at the half and i think they are OK

639 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 28, 2009 6:46:30pm

re: #633 negativ

Watch for Perry to nominate Cynthia Dunbar, who is unabashedly theocratic (and who also opined that Obama, if elected, would declare martial law within the first 6 months of taking office...)

[Link: www.chron.com...]

Which makes her a Democrat I guess, since they were bitching about how Bush would suspend elections, etc. ad nauseum.

640 Timbre  Thu, May 28, 2009 8:37:19pm

Gov. Perry won't appoint a scientist to the school Board and he won't even consider allowing even 80,000 more children in the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP). Read the article to see how poor a family has to be before becoming eligible for CHIP. You're a cad, Guv Perry. Even a computer couldn't aid you in drafting logical and humane legislation.

641 RexMundi  Fri, May 29, 2009 7:02:49am
unless there is a special session before then.

I'd like to call a preemptive special session, please!


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