Good for them- may there be many more to join them.

Faster please.

Angry words were exchanged and scuffles broke out between members of both groups, with the extremists shouting ‘Shame on you’ and ‘Get back to your synagogue’.

Yes- they don't like you so they must be Jews! Anti-Semitic bastards.

Good news! May their efforts continue to be fruitful and multiply.

More, please.

We need more of this.

Farasat Latif, of the Islamic Centre in Luton, which was firebombed after the protest against the soldiers, said moderate members of his community took action because police had failed to move the group on.

And this is what happens when the rule of law isn't supported. The police did nothing, so citizens had to take action themselves. While I think it's great that moderates stepped up and told these islamists to go, it should still be up to the police to enforce the law.

At last!

"RoP" --ROFL

Good for them. This sort of thing needs to be publicized and encouraged.

Yay! That's a good start.

I wonder why now?

The extremists shouted ‘baby killers’ and ‘butchers of Basra’

Oh, I get it.

They went over the line with the Basra.

Should have said, "Gaza."

Well, the next time somebody here asks where the moderate Muslims are and why don't they do something to stand up to the extremists, we can answer that some of them live in Luton and they HAVE done something to stand up to the extremists.

re: #7 Sharmuta

Police may not have been able to remove them, and by being shut out by moderate Muslims the message is powerful. It speaks beyond the event itself.

Its a start.

re: #13 Salamantis

Well, the next time somebody here asks where the moderate Muslims are and why don't they do something to stand up to the extremists, we can answer that some of them live in Luton and they HAVE done something to stand up to the extremists.

Before or after the exposure?

OT - once again the local bloggers are having multiple orgasms because OBAMA WENT OUT FOR A BURGER! This time it was 5 Guys.

Now that's change I can believe in!

Good on ya, lads!

Moderate Muslims standing up to terroristic Muslims?
I knew that that was a pig that just flew by my window, but wifey said I was nuts.

The British police are the enablers of the extremists. You know your country is nearing anarchy when the citizens have to do the job the police should be doing.

We have been the victims twice over - from the stupidity of Muslim extremists who metaphorically pour petrol and fan the flames of the right wing extremists.

I think this is the key point. The islamists fuel the fascists with their jihadi rhetoric, and the fascists willingly repeat the rhetoric of the islamists to swell their ranks. We need more moderates to speak out so that both the islamists and the fascists get their recruiting tools undermined.

Guys--we say all the time we want this to happen. So write to the Islamic Centre in Luton, telling them you appreciate their courage and their stand for their community.

The MSM could do a great service by playing up this bravery. Good for them. And this statement:

‘I don’t know if they will be back. We have been the victims twice over - from the stupidity of Muslim extremists who metaphorically pour petrol and fan the flames of the right wing extremists.’

Is a well-spoken and clear. Would that our politicians could be so informed and eloquent.

This is nice to hear.

This part

He said the extremists, who follow the militant group led by Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammed, had fuelled feelings against the Muslim community which led to a march last Sunday in Luton which was disrupted by white, right-wing extremists.

makes me think that polarization isn't all that bad. Sometimes, it helps to separate wheat from the chaff.

re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist

Guys--we say all the time we want this to happen. So write to the Islamic Centre in Luton, telling them you appreciate their courage and their stand for their community.

Do you have a link or an address?

re: #25 FabioC.

This is nice to hear.

This part

makes me think that polarization isn't all that bad. Sometimes, it helps to separate wheat from the chaff.

Unless you are the chaff

The extremists shouted ‘baby killers’ and ‘butchers of Basra’ at the returning soldiers as well as brandishing placards against the Iraq war. But today they were surrounded by a crowd as they began to set up their stall, shouting ‘We don’t want you here’ and ‘move on, move on’.

!

I'm sorry, I like to see this happening, but not out of public embarrassment.

re: #16 Ben Hur

Before or after the exposure?

The point is that they ARE acting. And rather than nitpick about what it took to convince them to do so, I, for one, am going to be grateful that they DID themselves decide to do so, and on their own.

re: #17 Mad Al-Jaffee

OT - once again the local bloggers are having multiple orgasms because OBAMA WENT OUT FOR A BURGER! This time it was 5 Guys.

Well, their burgers are good... I wouldn't go so far as to say orgasmic, but good.

Mr Latif said: ‘We have been fighting these Muslim extremists for you. They represent nobody but themselves. The community decided to move them on because the police won’t. We have asked them, but they did nothing.’

That says all you need to know about the UK today.

Wow. and Cops didn't arrest the moderate muslims for hate speech

flying pig moment

re: #21 zombie

The law makers are the ones who have tied the hands of law enforcement.

re: #16 Ben Hur

Who really cares? It's about time that some in the Muslim community recognized that their compatriots are the ones who are causing the bulk of the horror and misery in the world. It's a small step, but at least it's one in the right direction.

Finally a ray of hope.

re: #30 Salamantis

The point is that they ARE acting. And rather than nitpick about what it took to convince them to do so, I, for one, am going to be grateful that they DID themselves decide to do so, and on their own.

I completely understand the elation, but not the reasons.

re: #31 MrSilverDragon

Well, their burgers are good... I wouldn't go so far as to say orgasmic, but good.

Thanks, I'll stick with pickles & mustard on mine.

Seems to be a reaction to the reaction but welcome nevertheless. I'm not too crazy about the idea of physically shutting them up though, here they would have a right to protest however disgusting the message. I wonder if next time the extremists will just bring more muscle.

re: #21 zombie

The British police are the enablers of the extremists. You know your country is nearing anarchy when the citizens have to do the job the police should be doing.

You think? Maybe they are not doing anything out of fear of being branded anti-muslim?

re: #35 lincolntf

Who really cares? It's about time that some in the Muslim community recognized that their compatriots are the ones who are causing the bulk of the horror and misery in the world. It's a small step, but at least it's one in the right direction.

Because I don't beleive that's the reason they are doing it.

re: #31 MrSilverDragon

Oh, I like their burgers too. What I meant by orgasms is the reaction the local bloggers and press every time the holy teleprompter spontaneously makes a public appearance.

Sea change or an anomaly? Only time will tell.

or Newsweek./

Here's hoping.

OT: Just got Zeppelin's "Live BBC session" and must recommend it to any Zeppelin fan who has not heard it.

re: #41 Ben Hur

So you think that they're actually "double agents" trying to protect the terrorists by decreasing the attention paid to the hate-mongers in the Mosques? I find that hard (but not impossible) to believe.
Time will tell.

"I love robbing the English. They're so polite." Kevin Kline-- "A Fish Called Wanda"

In a land where you cannot use force to defend yourself in the event of a burglary, I find this to be a bit of good news.

re: #37 Ben Hur

I completely understand the elation, but not the reasons.

The reasons are just as positive as are the actions. These extremists were making it more difficult for for the rest of them to get along well with their nonMuslim neighbors in their community. The facts that they HAVE nonMuslim neighbors, and that they DO desire to get along well with them, are quite encouraging to me.

re: #44 Creeping Eruption

OT: Just got Zeppelin's "Live BBC session" and must recommend it to any Zeppelin fan who has not heard it.

My daughter gave that to me a few years ago. Great.

It seems that for every silver lining, some people will find a cloud.

re: #48 Kosh's Shadow

My daughter gave that to me a few years ago. Great.

You have a very cool daughter, and you must be a very cool father.

Finally, some good news today.

re: #49 Salamantis

It seems that for every silver lining, some people will find a cloud.

/or a touch of grey

A word of praise for Charles Johnson:

Your opposition to creationism in schools is most appreciated.

You've also made it clear that choosing one fascism in opposition to another leads to perdition.

And thank you for highlighting this story.

re: #50 Creeping Eruption

You have a very cool daughter, and you must be a very cool father.

...with a very helpful wife.

re: #45 lincolntf

So you think that they're actually "double agents" trying to protect the terrorists by decreasing the attention paid to the hate-mongers in the Mosques? I find that hard (but not impossible) to believe.
Time will tell.

Not at all.

They don't like all the attention the extremists have brought down upon them.

Not to mention the BNP freaks.

Something isn't "wrong" just because you got caught.

If that initial video wasn't broadcasted, or they were protesting *ahem* someone else, the extremists would still have a happy home.

re: #27 Creeping Eruption

There's a trian of thought that remained unexepressed in my post - probablt because of the couple glasses of wine I had with dinner.

It would seems that moderates finally took actions against the extremists when the local, white, brits put enough pressure on the Muslims as a whole.

Which is not nice, perhaps, but it works.

re: #47 Salamantis

The reasons are just as positive as are the actions. These extremists were making it more difficult for for the rest of them to get along well with their nonMuslim neighbors in their community. The facts that they HAVE nonMuslim neighbors, and that they DO desire to get along well with them, are quite encouraging to me.

Suddenly.

The day they decided to protest was their first day at the mosque.

No one knew them, studied with them, prayed with them or knew the level of their piety until that day.

On the surface Naseebah Bibi did not appear to be an out-of-the-ordinary figure.

Often seen around her home town of Blackburn, she would wear a niqab while shopping for her family.

But behind closed doors the grandmother imprisoned her three daughters-in-law and used one as her slave for 13 years.

Since the details of the 63-year-old's "enslavement" of the three emerged her actions have been described as "inhumane", "horrific" and "outdated".

But to some women she is held in awe and, instead of anger, they pity her.

They blame her incarceration on her three victims who "clearly wanted revenge against this poor lady".

Blackburn, with a population of 105,000 - of which nearly a quarter are Muslim Asian - is greatly divided when it comes to Bibi.

She was found guilty of falsely imprisoning Nagina Akhtar between 1993 and 2006, Tazeem Akhtar from 2001 to 2003 and Nisbah Akhtar between 2005 and 2007.

SNIP

Shop owner Jamil, who knows the family, said he was shocked that this could happen to "such a nice family".

But he condemned Bibi's abusive actions, saying: "It's acceptable to treat women like this in other countries but not in our country, in England no, it's not acceptable."

More to the point: while writing to the Luton Muslim Community to praise their brave actions, we also should write to the Luton police and ask them why they had to wait for a whole community to confront a bunch of thugs.

Isn't it their job to keep the peace?

re: #47 Salamantis

The reasons are just as positive as are the actions. These extremists were making it more difficult for for the rest of them to get along well with their nonMuslim neighbors in their community. The facts that they HAVE nonMuslim neighbors, and that they DO desire to get along well with them, are quite encouraging to me.

And again, they only became extremists in their midsts when they "crossed the line" by targetting Brits.

Good.
Let them know across the board not everyone is a lunatic.

Do you think we'll see this story at jihadwatch or atlas?

re: #62 Sharmuta

Do you think we'll see this story at jihadwatch or atlas?

Of course.

Under the thread, "Victory for White British Protestors!"

/

Has anyone seen how this story is playing in the Islamic world? It will be interesting to see the reaction ...

re: #55 Ben Hur

Don't you think it's at least possible that some of the Muslims in Britain have realized that freedom and dignity for all people is actually a good thing and want to push back against the psychopaths who riot and murder in their names?
I might be putting on my rose-colored glasses for this one, but humans who've had a taste of real freedom might very well rebel against their own "cause" when they realize that it's dictatorial and hateful.

re: #65 JustABill

Has anyone seen how this story is playing in the Islamic world? It will be interesting to see the reaction ...

A fatwa against the apostates!

This is wonderful! May their tribe increase. Everyone of goodwill should pray for this to spread throughout the Islamic world.

re: #55 Ben Hur

Not at all.

They don't like all the attention the extremists have brought down upon them.

Not to mention the BNP freaks.

Something isn't "wrong" just because you got caught.

If that initial video wasn't broadcasted, or they were protesting *ahem* someone else, the extremists would still have a happy home.

I don't believe that. Both they and their nonMuslim neighbors saw both of these protests go down personally, or else heard about it from those who did. They also no doubt heard what their nonMuslim neighbors thought of both the jihadis and the skinheads (and I imagine most of their nonMuslim neighbors disapproved of BOTH of them - just like I imagine the moderate Muslims did).

After this action by the moderate Muslims to run the jihadis out of town, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that their nonMuslim neighbors reciprocate in kind, and run the skinheads out of town the next time they show.

re: #69 Salamantis

A thing that your post just put into my mind: If it had been British citizens who were not Muslim who counter-protested and drove away the extremists would their adverse reaction be considered "racism"?
I'll have to think about it for a while but I'm guessing that at least some people would conclude that.

re: #66 lincolntf

Don't you think it's at least possible that some of the Muslims in Britain have realized that freedom and dignity for all people is actually a good thing and want to push back against the psychopaths who riot and murder in their names?
I might be putting on my rose-colored glasses for this one, but humans who've had a taste of real freedom might very well rebel against their own "cause" when they realize that it's dictatorial and hateful.

I've posted many times about the ones I know in Italy that do. And do so loudly and publically.

I don't think that that was their motivation.

Or they wouldn't have been allowed their in the first place.

Don't you think it's at least possible that some of the Muslims in Britain have realized that freedom and dignity for all people is actually a good thin

I don't know from where you are deducing that lovely bit of prose out of this whole episode.

re: #59 blangwort

More to the point: while writing to the Luton Muslim Community to praise their brave actions, we also should write to the Luton police and ask them why they had to wait for a whole community to confront a bunch of thugs.

Isn't it their job to keep the peace?

You can be sure the police would have acted immediately to keep the peace if it had been a group of outraged Brits that had attacked the extremists. And they would be in jail; too, for their "hate crime". That is how it is in Europe nowadays...

re: #70 lincolntf

A thing that your post just put into my mind: If it had been British citizens who were not Muslim who counter-protested and drove away the extremists would their adverse reaction be considered "racism"?
I'll have to think about it for a while but I'm guessing that at least some people would conclude that.

Some people can see racism in an argument over a parking space.

re: #42 Mad Al-Jaffee

Oh, I like their burgers too. What I meant by orgasms is the reaction the local bloggers and press every time the holy teleprompter spontaneously makes a public appearance.

Heh, yup. I was just being my normal average every day silly. :)

Charles,

Did you get this story from The Onion? Or is this the start of a new LGF tradition called 'Onion Friday'?

The guys from "Jackass" should go to a radical Muslim rally wearing catchers gear ( pads, mask, helmet and a cup) and wearing a pigs feet necklace. I would watch that.

wonderful news

This made my day, it truly did. I am so glad to see a community defend itself against extremism and do so in such a well spoken way. I couldn't have said it better myself than when he said

"

I don’t know if they will be back. We have been the victims twice over - from the stupidity of Muslim extremists who metaphorically pour petrol and fan the flames of the right wing extremists."

This was a peaceful demonstration and we hope they get the message that the law-abiding community is sick and tired of them."

Hopefully this will embolden more people, both moderate Muslims AND sensible Brits, to stand up to these idiots. Now that we have an event that shows beyond a shadow of a doubt, that both extremists Muslims and British racists have a propensity for violence and that they don't speak for the communities they try to invade, maybe we will see more of this.

Europe REALLY needs to get better at integrating their immigrant population. And they need to do it NOW. These people can help by showing that while Europe's inability to integrate immigrants can lead to breeding grounds for terrorists (especially France)...this shows that there really are people in these communities who just want to peacefully live their lives free of extremism.

More please!

re: #17 Mad Al-Jaffee

OT - once again the local bloggers are having multiple orgasms because OBAMA WENT OUT FOR A BURGER! This time it was 5 Guys.

I love 5 Guys burgers, yum.

re: #75 koedo

Charles,

Did you get this story from The Onion? Or is this the start of a new LGF tradition called 'Onion Friday'?

No, this looks more like a case of pigs taking flight. It is a real news item, and a very positive development, IMHO.

re: #75 koedo

Charles,

Did you get this story from The Onion? Or is this the start of a new LGF tradition called 'Onion Friday'?

Click the link. It's the Daily Mail. They even have a photo proving the story is true.

re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar

The guys from "Jackass" should go to a radical Muslim rally wearing catchers gear ( pads, mask, helmet and a cup) and wearing a pigs feet necklace. I would watch that.

Why intentionally provoke assholes?

re: #69 Salamantis

Both they and their nonMuslim neighbors saw both of these protests go down personally, or else heard about it from those who did.

That's right.

And so did everyone else with YouTUbe.

Including the entire British nation.

They saw them do it to their returning heros.

And I'm sure the British press has been camped outside the mosque.

I'm sure there have been great debates about extremism and this episode for weeks following.

I'm sure all of Britain saw the rioting BNP afterwards.

I'm sure that after about 5 minutes of video everyone in Britain knew or was talking about this little mosque in Luton.

The British media puts ours to shame.

They didn't like the attention and exposure.

we need to put all the extremists, right or left, religious or environmentalist, in a room together and they can duke it out. leave the rest of us to go and make money.

What we seem to have here is a community of neighborhood friends transcending religious differences to stand together against extremist agitators. Let us devoutly hope that in this case the apparent is also the real, for that way lies hope.

It's looking increasingly likely that it was extremists who set the mosque fire to stoke racial tensions. They were ejected from the mosque a year or two ago.

The only hope to prevent a global conflagration between Muslims and other groups is for moderate Muslims to stand up to the extremists. I hope to read more stories like this.

re: #21 zombie

The British police are the enablers of the extremists. You know your country is nearing anarchy when the citizens have to do the job the police should be doing.

i agree. also i think the failure of the police to do their jobs and protect citizens is one reason for the emergence of nazi groups across europe. they are benefiting from the lawlessness created by the failure of p.c approaches of the police.
citizens want to feel safe. they will take the law into their own hands or line up w/ those who promise to protect them.
imagine how oppressed these moderate moslem must feel to be pushed to the brink of going after the jihadis themselves.
the cops look like the losers here, at least their game plan is.
it needs to change.

re: #66 lincolntf

Don't you think it's at least possible that some of the Muslims in Britain have realized that freedom and dignity for all people is actually a good thing and want to push back against the psychopaths who riot and murder in their names?

And agian, I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying that in this instance, I do not believe that that was their motivation.

re: #84 mrshankly01

Carlin riffed on that with the State Prisons skit.

re: #71 Ben Hur

My point was that some Muslim Britons probably consider themselves more British than Muslim (Sharia-style Muslim, that is) and are sick of letting the Richard Reid's of the world define them while they're just going to work every day and raising their families in a decent country. I'm sure most of them don't give a crap about Jihad, but they've been intimidated into silence by the psychopaths who run the virulent Mosques that have produced so many murderers (and so many violent "protests").
I don't pretend to know their real motivation, but I'd like to think that I'm right. As I said, time will tell.

re: #82 MandyManners

Why intentionally provoke assholes?

It's "Jackass". They do stupid shit.

re: #85 Salamantis

What we seem to have here is a community of neighborhood friends transcending religious differences to stand together against extremist agitators. Let us devoutly hope that in this case the apparent is also the real, for that way lies hope.

Where are you getting that from the above article?

re: #82 MandyManners

Why intentionally provoke assholes?

Messin' with Sasquatch.

/Don't behead me!

I am fine if this was done out of embarrassment or that the moderates were shamed into it. Shame is exactly what has been missing from the moderate Muslim community for the past nine years. So if moderates are finally starting to feel shame in how their extremist counterparts are acting or in how non-Muslims view their brethren, I consider that a huge positive.

re: #86 Killgore Trout

It's looking increasingly likely that it was extremists who set the mosque fire to stoke racial tensions. They were ejected from the mosque a year or two ago.

Whoever was responsible needs to be brought to justice.

re: #90 lawhawk

i will have to look that up.

re: #21 zombie

There were no organized police forces before the 19th century. It was citizens' action in law enforcement all the way. Back to the future!

re: #91 lincolntf

I'm sure most of them don't give a crap about Jihad

Against Britain maybe.

re: #92 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's "Jackass". They do stupid shit.

I have a vague memory of seeing them doing something rather dangerous with shopping carts.

This is good news. Simple as that.

They asked for help. They should get it.

This is what I'd hope to see happen to White Nationalists at the Tea Parties.

re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar

The guys from "Jackass" should go to a radical Muslim rally wearing catchers gear ( pads, mask, helmet and a cup) and wearing a pigs feet necklace. I would watch that.

I wouldn't, I am not into snuff flicks...

re: #83 Ben Hur

That's right.

And so did everyone else with YouTUbe.

Including the entire British nation.

They saw them do it to their returning heros.

And I'm sure the British press has been camped outside the mosque.

I'm sure there have been great debates about extremism and this episode for weeks following.

I'm sure all of Britain saw the rioting BNP afterwards.

I'm sure that after about 5 minutes of video everyone in Britain knew or was talking about this little mosque in Luton.

The British media puts ours to shame.

They didn't like the attention and exposure.

I don't give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut what strangers think of my neighborhood, but I and my neighbors dearly care what kind of neighborhood we live in and in which we raise our families.

My guess is that the people of Luton, both Muslim and non-, feel the same way. And that the moderate Muslims acted to preserve their neighborhood.

re: #101 Lowgamma

This is good news. Simple as that.

They asked for help. They should get it.

That I agree with 100%

Whatever I believe their motivation was, the fact that the British police did not help is outrageous.

re: #94 thedopefishlives

Messin' with Sasquatch.

/Don't behead me!

Tugging on Superman's cape.

re: #106 MandyManners

Tugging on Superman's cape.

"Hey y'all, watch this!"

/Famous last words

re: #104 Salamantis

And that the moderate Muslims acted to preserve their neighborhood

Right.

Once a sh*tload of undesired attention was brought down upon them.

re: #107 thedopefishlives

"Hey y'all, watch this!"

/Famous last words

That fifth beer didn't affect me any.

re: #107 thedopefishlives

"Hey y'all, watch this!"

/Famous last words

No,no. Famous last words: ( Hold my beer. I wanna try sumthin')

re: #107 thedopefishlives

"Hey y'all, watch this!"

/Famous last words

Hey, those are famous redneck last words.

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

No,no. Famous last words: ( Hold my beer. I wanna try sumthin')

What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

I just checked to see if anyone posted video of the confrontation on youtube and found this instead. Today from Islamified Luton...
Luton Carnival from Nazir Janjua

Probably not Safe for work.
Sharia is working out great!

This is good news. Let's hope the example sets a tone throughout GB. The thing that's instructional about this is that it's always the moderates who get attacked by both sides. That's why when we see moderates we must support them.

I fully expect the usual suspect blogs to make this into an extremist event and then say "see, firebombing worked".

re: #98 quickjustice

There were no organized police forces before the 19th century. It was citizens' action in law enforcement all the way. Back to the future!

It's not a problem with the law enforcement, it's the elected officials who have made law enforcement toothless. The Police were there. They're ineffective because of the rules and regulations they have to abide by.

re: #49 Salamantis

It seems that for every silver lining, some people will find a cloud.

You've been hurt before...tell me I'm wrong.//

re: #90 lawhawk

i am watching it no. funny Sh__

re: #112 thedopefishlives

What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

Two words, which ultimately end up getting people in trouble... "Trust me."

re: #93 Ben Hur

What we seem to have here is a community of neighborhood friends transcending religious differences to stand together against extremist agitators. Let us devoutly hope that in this case the apparent is also the real, for that way lies hope.

Where are you getting that from the above article?

From here:

Farasat Latif, of the Islamic Centre in Luton, which was firebombed after the protest against the soldiers, said moderate members of his community took action because police had failed to move the group on.

He said the extremists, who follow the militant group led by Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammed, had fuelled feelings against the Muslim community which led to a march last Sunday in Luton which was disrupted by white, right-wing extremists.

Mr Latif said: ‘We have been fighting these Muslim extremists for you. They represent nobody but themselves. The community decided to move them on because the police won’t. We have asked them, but they did nothing.’

‘I don’t know if they will be back. We have been the victims twice over - from the stupidity of Muslim extremists who metaphorically pour petrol and fan the flames of the right wing extremists.’

‘This was a peaceful demonstration and we hope they get the message that the law-abiding community is sick and tired of them.’

Sal: now it is true that so far only the moderate Muslims have acted to expel jihadist extremists, but I have hopes that their nonMuslim neighbors will also act to expel skinhead extremists should the opportunity/need arise. Then we will indeed have the religious-difference-transcending community of friends that I described. The moderate Muslims have already begun doing their part to realize this goal in Luton.

re: #52 Creeping Eruption

/or a touch of grey

For that touch of grey, use "Just for...

oh, never mind.

re: #113 Killgore Trout

Booty Ackbar!

re: #7 Sharmuta

And this is what happens when the rule of law isn't supported. The police did nothing, so citizens had to take action themselves. While I think it's great that moderates stepped up and told these islamists to go, it should still be up to the police to enforce the law.

What could the police do?
Picture the headline: "British Police disband Muslim 'Students' protesting illegal war"
Seething erupts around the middle east.

re: #93 Ben Hur

What we seem to have here is a community of neighborhood friends transcending religious differences to stand together against extremist agitators. Let us devoutly hope that in this case the apparent is also the real, for that way lies hope.

Where are you getting that from the above article?

From here:

Farasat Latif, of the Islamic Centre in Luton, which was firebombed after the protest against the soldiers, said moderate members of his community took action because police had failed to move the group on.

He said the extremists, who follow the militant group led by Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammed, had fuelled feelings against the Muslim community which led to a march last Sunday in Luton which was disrupted by white, right-wing extremists.

Mr Latif said: ‘We have been fighting these Muslim extremists for you. They represent nobody but themselves. The community decided to move them on because the police won’t. We have asked them, but they did nothing.’

‘I don’t know if they will be back. We have been the victims twice over - from the stupidity of Muslim extremists who metaphorically pour petrol and fan the flames of the right wing extremists.’

‘This was a peaceful demonstration and we hope they get the message that the law-abiding community is sick and tired of them.’

Sal: now it is true that so far only the moderate Muslims have acted to expel jihadist extremists, but I have hopes that their nonMuslim neighbors will also act to expel skinhead extremists should the opportunity/need arise. Then we will indeed have the religious-difference-transcending community of friends that I described. The moderate Muslims have already begun doing their part to realize this goal in Luton.

re: #119 Salamantis

From here:

Farasat Latif, of the Islamic Centre in Luton, which was firebombed after the protest against the soldiers, said moderate members of his community took action because police had failed to move the group on.

He said the extremists, who follow the militant group led by Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammed, had fuelled feelings against the Muslim community which led to a march last Sunday in Luton which was disrupted by white, right-wing extremists.

Mr Latif said: ‘We have been fighting these Muslim extremists for you. They represent nobody but themselves. The community decided to move them on because the police won’t. We have asked them, but they did nothing.’

‘I don’t know if they will be back. We have been the victims twice over - from the stupidity of Muslim extremists who metaphorically pour petrol and fan the flames of the right wing extremists.’

‘This was a peaceful demonstration and we hope they get the message that the law-abiding community is sick and tired of them.’

Sal: now it is true that so far only the moderate Muslims have acted to expel jihadist extremists, but I have hopes that their nonMuslim neighbors will also act to expel skinhead extremists should the opportunity/need arise. Then we will indeed have the religious-difference-transcending community of friends that I described. The moderate Muslims have already begun doing their part to realize this goal in Luton.

we hope they get the message that the law-abiding community is sick and tired of them

Well, we have an interesting situation here.

Because I see that quote as backing my arguement as well.

re: #121 Killgore Trout

Really bad singing, chanting, and drumming, but the dancing was just fine.

re: #122 Eowyn2

What could the police do?
Picture the headline: "British Police disband Muslim 'Students' protesting illegal war"
Seething erupts around the middle east.

They can't do anything- they're not even allowed to have guns to protect themselves in the UK. Red tape binds them.

re: #106 MandyManners

Tugging on Superman's cape.

spittin into the wind

Apologies for the double post; the spinning wheels got me.

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

No,no. Famous last words: ( Hold my beer. I wanna try sumthin')

"I drank what?!" --Socrates.

Finally!

re: #86 Killgore Trout

It's looking increasingly likely that it was extremists who set the mosque fire to stoke racial tensions. They were ejected from the mosque a year or two ago.

sounds like the people at the stalker blog

re: #124 Ben Hur

Well, we have an interesting situation here.

Because I see that quote as backing my arguement as well.

The moderate Muslims and their nonskinhead nonMuslim neighbors constitute the law-abiding community in Luton. And they seem to be uniformly tired of hooligans plaguing their shared community, whether they are bearded or bald.

re: #128 Salamantis

Apologies for the double post; the spinning wheels got me.

BBL.

Nice to civilly disagree.

Have a good weekend, all.

(and I'm stealing the "flying fuck rolling donut" line.)

This reminds me of an interview I saw a few years ago with an iman in a remote part of the world, the Comorro Islands off east Africa. His little mosque had existed for 500 years but it had hit on hard times financially. A group of Saudi-backed Wahabi missionaries offered help, a lot of it. The iman consulted the elders, they looked at the missionaries' radical propaganda and agenda, and told them no thanks. The Wahabis then started their own mosque. They preached jihad and passed out money like it was candy. The original mosque, with a budget of possibly $2000 a year, could not compete and was in danger of closing down.
As always, follow the money trail. One of the biggest problems with the Muslim world is that the craziest factions are also the richest and the most generous. This could also explain why the British establishment, surgically bound to the Saudi money tit, is soft on radicals and tends to discount moderates.

re: #17 Mad Al-Jaffee

OT - once again the local bloggers are having multiple orgasms because OBAMA WENT OUT FOR A BURGER! This time it was 5 Guys.

Love Five Guys, especially their fries...I got turned on to them when a franchisee started opening stores here in Nashville and the company I work for got them as a client.

re: #132 Salamantis

The moderate Muslims and their nonskinhead nonMuslim neighbors constitute the law-abiding community in Luton. And they seem to be uniformly tired of hooligans plaguing their shared community, whether they are bearded or bald.

One last one.

Click on the link.

There were no nonskinhead, nonMuslim neighbours in any of the pictures.

Later.

US newspaper ad calls for Obama assassination

A small-town newspaper is apologizing for running a classified advertisement calling for the assassination of President Barack Obama.

Warren Times Observer Publisher John Elchert says the ad appeared Thursday. It read, "May Obama follow in the steps of Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy!" The four presidents were all assassinated. (AP)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #108 Ben Hur

Right.

Once a sh*tload of undesired attention was brought down upon them.

Or even once slinheads decided to show up. But it is clear that they don't like the jihadi-preachers either. Both of them disrupt a peaceful and cooperating neighborhood, so neither is wanted there by either moderate Muslims or their nonMuslim neighbors.

OT - Gold is sure looking green today.

re: #114 Thanos

All true.

Still, it's like turning an aircraft carrier- it's going to take time if it will happen at at all.

This is awesome! I'm adding these folks to my prayers - you go!

Moderates arise! sounds silly, but hey - it's what needs to happen.

re: #116 calcajun

You've been hurt before...tell me I'm wrong.//

Show me an adult human being who hasn't.

re: #129 calcajun

"I drank what?!" --Socrates.

"Don't take those, man." Chong to Cheech.
"Up In Smoke"

This is interesting: Lionheart posted a video of the "anti-Islamization" postests set to crappy techno music. Somebody else added subtitles showing what is really going on in the video...
luton protest against muslim extremists by nf (National Front)

Shows them breaking windows at Asian shops, giving vaguely fascist looking salutes, attacking lone Muslim looking people in the streets, attacking cars with non white drivers.

re: #138 MJ

I hope the Secret Service gave the publisher, the editor, and whoever placed that ad a visit.

re: #138 MJ

US newspaper ad calls for Obama assassination

A small-town newspaper is apologizing for running a classified advertisement calling for the assassination of President Barack Obama.

Warren Times Observer Publisher John Elchert says the ad appeared Thursday. It read, "May Obama follow in the steps of Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy!" The four presidents were all assassinated. (AP)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

"KNOCK! KNOCK! KNOCK!"
"Hi, we're from the Secret Service. We're responding to your recent ad."

In any case, this is indeed a heartwarming story.

May the extremists suffer from severe isolation and rejection.

re: #126 Sharmuta

They can't do anything- they're not even allowed to have guns to protect themselves in the UK. Red tape binds them.

Kind of reminds me of a quote by a friend of mine from college. We were discussing how bobbies didn't have guns. He envisioned them when trying to apprehend criminals shouting...

"Stop or I'll say Stop again."

re: #138 MJ

US newspaper ad calls for Obama assassination

A small-town newspaper is apologizing for running a classified advertisement calling for the assassination of President Barack Obama.

Warren Times Observer Publisher John Elchert says the ad appeared Thursday. It read, "May Obama follow in the steps of Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy!" The four presidents were all assassinated. (AP)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

As if newspapers are not having a hard enough time as it is staying in business

re: #127 Eowyn2

spittin into the wind

Pullin' the mask off the old Lone Ranger...

re: #136 Ben Hur

One last one.

Click on the link.

There were no nonskinhead, nonMuslim neighbours in any of the pictures.

Later.

I'm hoping we'll see them when it's time to drive out the skinheads. It's typical for each part of a diverse community to deal with its own problem people for the sake of community cohesion. And it would have been spun for maximum racism or religious bigotry by the MSM, had the nonMuslim contingent of the community aided the moderate Muslims in moving the jihadis on down the road.

re: #126 Sharmuta

They can't do anything- they're not even allowed to have guns to protect themselves in the UK. Red tape binds them.

what the hell is a 'community support officer'
/is that the guy in the McGruff costume?

re: #58 MandyManners

On the surface Naseebah Bibi did not appear to be an out-of-the-ordinary figure.

But he condemned Bibi's abusive actions, saying: "It's acceptable to treat women like this in other countries but not in our country, in England no, it's not acceptable."

Location, location, location.
/

If it's wrong, it's wrong. Dumbass.

My goodness - a 8,346,200 share sell of XOM just flew by-

re: #157 Summersong

My goodness - a 8,346,200 share sell of XOM just flew by-

Just me. :)

(I wish)

Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and Kennedy ? Visit from the SS?
Why? Anyone recall the Koskids, et al, requests, wishes, pleadings for 'immediate demise' or assassination ("lead poisoning") of Bush? Those threats didn't generate so much as phone call from the Secret Service as I recall.

re: #153 Iron Fist

I suspect someone is going to get a visit from some thoroughly unamused Secret Service agents. They don't see the humor in things like that. Not one little bit.

Sure enough

Elchert tells The Associated Press that advertising staff didn't make the historical connection, but the paper removed the ad Friday and turned the information over to police. Elchert says an agent from the Secret Service office in Erie is in town, investigating the person who placed the ad.

There is some serious nutjobbery in the comments, too.

Something else to watch for in the Daily Mail.

EastEnders' Muslim character Syed set for controversial gay storyline. The guys are pretty cute too!

From the article:

Warwickshire-born actor Elliott, who joined EastEnders [a soap opera] as the Masood's mysterious long-lost son in April, has praised the soap's writers for tackling a sensitive subject.

He said: 'I think EastEnders would be doing the programme a disservice if they didn't give a voice to various communities.

'I think that's really important because I think London is a very ethnically diverse multicultural place, and EastEnders has a job to reflect that in the storylines it gives people and the characters they have on board.'

Asghar Bokhari from the Muslim Public Affairs Committee said: 'The Muslim community deserves a character that represents them to the wider public because Islamophobia is so great right now.

'There's a lack of understanding of Muslims already and I think EastEnders really lost an opportunity to present a normal friendly Muslim character to the British public.'

The soap's executive producer Diedrick Santer, said he believes the controversial issue needs to be highlighted, despite risk of offending some religious viewers.

OT and selfish-- after 10 months of having no job, just got a great one, great bennies, on a river that empties into the Gulf of Mexico, less than a mile from home. And all backroads. Time to buy a golf cart! WOO HOO!

/ FAT cocktails on me!

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

OT and selfish-- after 10 months of having no job, just got a great one, great bennies, on a river that empties into the Gulf of Mexico, less than a mile from home. And all backroads. Time to buy a golf cart! WOO HOO!

/ FAT cocktails on me!

Where is the selfish part?

Sorry, but whenever I see or hear 'Luton', this comes to mind:

That's a breath of fresh air.

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

OT and selfish-- after 10 months of having no job, just got a great one, great bennies, on a river that empties into the Gulf of Mexico, less than a mile from home. And all backroads. Time to buy a golf cart! WOO HOO!

/ FAT cocktails on me!

Congratulations! Wonderful!

Mr Latif said: ‘We have been fighting these Muslim extremists for you. They represent nobody but themselves. The community decided to move them on because the police won’t. We have asked them, but they did nothing.’

The Muslim world could end this madness in six months if more of them behaved like Mr latif and friends.
Well done sir!

re: #125 Thanos

Really bad singing, chanting, and drumming, but the dancing was just fine.

There was singing and chanting?

re: #1 Sharmuta

Good for them- may there be many more to join them.

One for the 'catch 'em being good' file.

re: #149 JustABill

Kind of reminds me of a quote by a friend of mine from college. We were discussing how bobbies didn't have guns. He envisioned them when trying to apprehend criminals shouting...

"Stop or I'll say Stop again."

If that does not gain compliance, repeat the command in an authoritative tone, and add "or else." --from Demolition Man

The "moderates" can only put up the show for so long. Eventually, the radicals will see they get their "cumuppance".

re: #155 Iron Fist

Slef-defense is not de jure illegal in Britain, but de facto it is very difficult to exercise without being charged with some crime.

Stunned.

The follow up story will be about the police bringing charges against Mr. Latif and the other moderates for their insensitivity to the extremists.

This is great. The UK needed that.

Great to see moderates stepping up like this! I have a feeling we are going to see a lot more like this in future.

I think this calls for some music :

re#17 Sharmuta
re#104 Salamantis
re#155 Ironfist
The probable reason why this has come about is due to sensible muslims like Mr Latif realising that his coreligionists(the extreme variety)have been "taking the piss"(taking outrageous liberties)for years.
The recent small time disturbance in Luton was probably the tipping point.
Mr Latif knows that muslims are an extremely unpopular minority and
calling returning British troops murderers was an insult too far.
I've posed the question to moderate muslims as to why they've apparently aquiesced in the misdeeds of their coreligionised and their reply
has always been that there is a threat of being ostracised by the rest of the community(it's always muslims first).
But in recent times there has arisen a threat to life and limb particularly from BNP scum.
Brits are by nature easy going;but a third rate government of mealy mouthed cultural equivalentist politicians have emasculated the police
and preached sociological bullshit for so long that the average Brit aborigine is forever asking the question as to why(in his own land)he's
seemingly underprivileged(high unemployment amongst ill educated unskilled Muslims resulting in high unemployment benefits)
Cultural changes in schools and the supression of free speech have
also contributed to an attitude that labels Muslims as parasites.
Other Asians like Indians and Chinese have no similar problems.
(in fact racially identical Indians have a general loathing for Muslims).
Hopefully Mr Latif has started a movement that will see the marginalisation of Muslim zealots and they'll become the black joke they really are.
Ironfist makes the point about Brits not owning guns!
If I lived in the USA I would probably own one;but I think the better
solution is that nobody owns one(not possible in the USA).
Consequently deaths from gunshot wounds are relatively low;and gun control is something that is rigorously enforced here.(5 years minimum for
hand gun possession).
It's also a fact that anyone attempting to introduce gun possession would
be castigated as an idiot by the general populace.