We must not make a scarecrow of the law,
Setting it up to fear the birds of prey,
And let it keep one shape, till custom make it
Their perch and not their terror.
— William Shakespeare, Measure for Measure
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jcm Fri, May 29, 2009 11:10:57pm |
Well I glad they cleared that up...
Russian Scientist: UFO Crashed Into Meteorite to Save Earth
Dr. Yuri Labvin, president of the Tunguska Spatial Phenomenon Foundation, insists that an alien spacecraft sacrificed itself to prevent a gigantic meteor from slamming into the planet above Siberia on June 30, 1908.
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srb1976 Fri, May 29, 2009 11:12:32pm |
Looks like the boy and his puppy have both run out of energy and excuses!
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jcm Fri, May 29, 2009 11:14:16pm |
re: #1 jcm
Well I glad they cleared that up...
I think it was an epic battle between the Borg and Enterprise who traveled back in time to prevent assimilation!
Hey, the evidence fits!
//
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:16:15pm |
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srb1976 Fri, May 29, 2009 11:16:21pm |
And on that note, I'm off to sleep myself....
Nite folks!
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:17:18pm |
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MrPaulRevere Fri, May 29, 2009 11:18:13pm |
Dick the butcher was one of Shakespeare's more interesting characters /
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:21:51pm |
re: #13 jcm
Two alien races fighting over lunch?
No doubt they UFO "expert" has an explanation. That's another example of another UFO theory occurring out in the middle of nowhere. You ever notice how they never have a UFO siting in Miami or London? It's always in the boonies.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 29, 2009 11:21:53pm |
re: #12 MrPaulRevere
I only own one other book that is more dog eared than my copy of Shakespeare's Sonnets.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, May 29, 2009 11:21:57pm |
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shiplord kirel Fri, May 29, 2009 11:21:59pm |
re: #13 jcm
Two alien races fighting over lunch?
Yes. We won but as a registered Lizardoid, you already know that.
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:22:41pm |
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:23:45pm |
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jcm Fri, May 29, 2009 11:24:19pm |
re: #14 Gus 802
No doubt they UFO "expert" has an explanation. That's another example of another UFO theory occurring out in the middle of nowhere. You ever notice how they never have a UFO siting in Miami or London? It's always in the boonies.
Hell, I'd be happy with a decent photograph......
Or a their version of a Twinkie wrapper.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, May 29, 2009 11:24:39pm |
re: #14 Gus 802
What about San Francisco? I mean..how else can you explain inflated scrotum guy?
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:27:00pm |
re: #23 Fenway_Nation
What about San Francisco? I mean..how else can you explain inflated scrotum guy?
Nooooooooooooooo!
//You've seen that too I gather. Damned internet surfing will do that.
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dapperdave Fri, May 29, 2009 11:28:24pm |
re: #11 coldwarrior
my cat did that, sorry all!
I think your cat might be an alien, perhaps sending secret messages to Kim Jong il who I believe is also an alien. //
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:30:03pm |
re: #21 jcm
Hell, I'd be happy with a decent photograph......
Or a their version of a Twinkie wrapper.
True. Come the year 2030 there will be another "UFO sighting" and it will still look like they took it with a Brownie camera.
/Hold still!
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Silvergirl Fri, May 29, 2009 11:30:50pm |
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:31:14pm |
re: #25 dapperdave
I think your cat might be an alien, perhaps sending secret messages to Kim Jong il who I believe is also an alien. //
that cat and i have been thru too much together. she has sen me at my best and worst.
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pingjockey Fri, May 29, 2009 11:31:36pm |
Look, if you've travelled millioms of light years to get here, space sailors ain't gonna land in the sticks. Think beaches in Brazil, Miami, other warm places with hotties and liquid refreshment!
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:31:50pm |
re: #28 Silvergirl
thx,
she appreciates it
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shiplord kirel Fri, May 29, 2009 11:31:51pm |
Ah, the Bard.
These lines from Sonnet 147 still give me the shivers:
For I have sworn thee fair and thought thee bright,
Who art as black as hell, as dark as night.
The complete reversal of tone with such economy and simplicity of language is breathtaking. It is like a dark curtain materializing out of thin air.
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:33:05pm |
re: #30 pingjockey
Look, if you've travelled millioms of light years to get here, space sailors ain't gonna land in the sticks. Think beaches in Brazil, Miami, other warm places with hotties and liquid refreshment!
Exactly! But no. Instead they seem to have a big interest in agriculture. Right.
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Deseeded Fri, May 29, 2009 11:33:12pm |
they land in the fields because humans are creepy with their flashy cameras and shaky filming. Mysterious!
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jcm Fri, May 29, 2009 11:34:15pm |
re: #26 Gus 802
True. Come the year 2030 there will be another "UFO sighting" and it will still look like they took it with a Brownie camera.
/Hold still!
While back I had a "holy shit WTF is that" moment.
I'm driving home from work and Venus seemed much brighter than normal. As I'm looking suddenly Venus splits and one half takes off across he sky.
Till I realized an airplane with it's landing light on had been in a direct line with Venus and when it turned onto it's base leg, was the split I saw.
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dapperdave Fri, May 29, 2009 11:34:20pm |
re: #29 coldwarrior
Assuming your cat is really a cat, I'm searching for my secret Kim Jong il decoder ring, I left it around here somewhere.//
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:34:26pm |
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:35:11pm |
re: #36 jcm
While back I had a "holy shit WTF is that" moment.
I'm driving home from work and Venus seemed much brighter than normal. As I'm looking suddenly Venus splits and one half takes off across he sky.
Till I realized an airplane with it's landing light on had been in a direct line with Venus and when it turned onto it's base leg, was the split I saw.
NICE!
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Fenway_Nation Fri, May 29, 2009 11:35:38pm |
Quick follow up to my post about two short-haul Iowa railways that are still feeling the effects of last years floods.
$1 million in funds has been made available to repair the Union Pacific bridge over the Cedar River in Iowa that's used almost exclusively by the Iowa Northern.
CR&IC was also approved for a grant to cover 80% of the cost of replacing their bridge over the Cedar river.
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:35:45pm |
re: #37 dapperdave
are any cats really cats?
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MrPaulRevere Fri, May 29, 2009 11:37:08pm |
I followed your link Sharmuta and just purchased Sowell's book via Amazon. Charles gets a cut, am I correct?
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:37:26pm |
re: #36 jcm
While back I had a "holy shit WTF is that" moment.
I'm driving home from work and Venus seemed much brighter than normal. As I'm looking suddenly Venus splits and one half takes off across he sky.
Till I realized an airplane with it's landing light on had been in a direct line with Venus and when it turned onto it's base leg, was the split I saw.
Yep, there's usually a logical explanation. There's still people around though that don't look for the logic. They wouldn't know the difference between an A-12 and an SR-71. They still think Area 51 was about UFO. I even ran into someone the other day that mumbled something about Area 51 and the Egyptian pyramids.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 29, 2009 11:37:46pm |
The Epilogue of this book is quite profound:
But many a philosopher and cleric, and of course many a biologist, have not been ashamed to be associated with the other beasts. St. Francis of Assisi, felt by many to be the most Christlike of the Christian saints, declared that the animals and plants were his brothers and sisters. Charles Darwin, who suggested that all creatures must have arisen in the deep past from a common ancestor, said in effect that this is literally the case. If everything is God's creation, why would we want to be aloof from it? Who are we to be so superior?
This isn't just a point of theological whimsy. Our sense of affinity with nature as a whole- or our lack of it- profoundly affects our attitude toward it.
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 29, 2009 11:37:47pm |
re: #32 shiplord kirel
Ah, the Bard.
These lines from Sonnet 147 still give me the shivers:
The complete reversal of tone with such economy and simplicity of language is breathtaking. It is like a dark curtain materializing out of thin air.
Beautiful.
For all Shakespeare loving lizards, I recommend this site
[Link: www.sonnetaday.com...]
They'll email you three times a week with a shakespeare sonnet, so you can work your way through reading all of them.
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Deseeded Fri, May 29, 2009 11:38:10pm |
Hahah this LGF spy is fun! haven't followed a thread this way before. *noob hat*
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Sharmuta Fri, May 29, 2009 11:38:43pm |
re: #44 MrPaulRevere
I followed your link Sharmuta and just purchased Sowell's book via Amazon. Charles gets a cut, am I correct?
Yes, he does. I'm thrilled you're picking it up.
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BatGuano Fri, May 29, 2009 11:39:24pm |
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jcm Fri, May 29, 2009 11:39:52pm |
re: #48 Deseeded
Hahah this LGF spy is fun! haven't followed a thread this way before. *noob hat*
Turn your web cam off.........
;-)
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:40:09pm |
re: #45 Gus 802
Yep, there's usually a logical explanation. There's still people around though that don't look for the logic. They wouldn't know the difference between an A-12 and an SR-71. They still think Area 51 was about UFO. I even ran into someone the other day that mumbled something about Area 51 and the Egyptian pyramids.
been there!
i had my 16" Meade refractor in the yard and was looking at a receding venus and got my eye fried by an incoming jet into PITT. low angle stuff happens.
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Deseeded Fri, May 29, 2009 11:40:37pm |
Fenway, hello! Some stalwart Massholes representing the other side of Deval. :D
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 29, 2009 11:41:14pm |
re: #46 Sharmuta
I have always thought that the Prayer of St Francis is profundly important and moving, no matter what one's religion is (and even for atheists like me)
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace,
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy;
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
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Deseeded Fri, May 29, 2009 11:41:26pm |
lol didn't realize that M-hole was derogatory! Heheh!
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MrPaulRevere Fri, May 29, 2009 11:42:32pm |
re: #57 Sharmuta
Gotcha, Black Rednecks and White Liberals was fascinating, I chewed it up in 4 days.
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freetoken Fri, May 29, 2009 11:42:40pm |
re: #30 pingjockey
Think beaches [...] with hotties and liquid refreshment!
Did someone say "beaches with hotties" ?
/Any red-blooded Alien's first stop....
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jcm Fri, May 29, 2009 11:42:52pm |
re: #53 coldwarrior
been there!
i had my 16" Meade refractor in the yard and was looking at a receding venus and got my eye fried by an incoming jet into PITT. low angle stuff happens.
When I live in Iran we'd sleep on the roofs in summer. Our house was in line with the base leg for Mehribad airport. The landing lights would just hang there, then shoot off to the left when the plane turn on to final.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 29, 2009 11:42:55pm |
re: #55 iceweasel
I have always thought that the Prayer of St Francis is profundly important and moving, no matter what one's religion is (and even for atheists like me)
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace,
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy;O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
That is profoundly beautiful
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dapperdave Fri, May 29, 2009 11:43:01pm |
re: #54 Deseeded
I grew up in Mass but haven't been back there in almost 20 years. What happened to you Deseeded, hockey game?
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:44:05pm |
re: #60 jcm
the lights are fierce on landing.
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shiplord kirel Fri, May 29, 2009 11:44:27pm |
The socialist nag George Bernard Shaw was not a fan of Shakespeare. He coined the term "Bardolator" for those he considered guilty of worshipping Shakespeare's work. Shaw's main complaint, not surprisingly for someone who hero-worshipped Stalin, was that Shakespeare had failed to engage social problems.
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:46:01pm |
re: #53 coldwarrior
been there!
i had my 16" Meade refractor in the yard and was looking at a receding venus and got my eye fried by an incoming jet into PITT. low angle stuff happens.
I've never seen anything like that. I did see something once which I called St. Elmo's Fire. It was during an electrical storm and it looked like a plasma discharge in the sky. It looked like a ball of flame and was actually rather awesome to see.
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gmsc Fri, May 29, 2009 11:46:02pm |
re: #32 shiplord kirel
Ah, the Bard.
These lines from Sonnet 147 still give me the shivers:
The complete reversal of tone with such economy and simplicity of language is breathtaking. It is like a dark curtain materializing out of thin air.
Bard of Avon calling!
I've always liked this piece from Julius Caesar (That's Sir John Gielgud reciting the piece):
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Deseeded Fri, May 29, 2009 11:46:19pm |
re: #62 dapperdave
I grew up in Mass but haven't been back there in almost 20 years. What happened to you Deseeded, hockey game?
Oh I wish! This was the result of walking to school everyday from Mission Hill. My senior year after a long night in Unit Ops lab, I walked home and was jumped. I got away with my backpack and a broken nose/inferior orbital. I did knock down one kid, but the other three got me good in the face. Didn't fall down, but I ran like a bastard once I got the chance. Nose job at 21. I'm a movie star! heh
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freedomplow Fri, May 29, 2009 11:46:43pm |
Over 90% of the people that went to tea parties don't like rp and could care less what he has to say.
Stop ripping on the 90%.
Just wanted to point that fact out again.
If you are a rp, white power, troofer, jones or any other dumbass supporter you will be run out of there and photographed.
All I have to do now is convince Charles that most of the people that showed up are not bat shit crazy.
That is the really hard part...
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 29, 2009 11:46:49pm |
re: #61 Sharmuta
I'm so glad you like it. I think so too. Words we can all strive to live by.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 29, 2009 11:48:38pm |
re: #68 freedomplow
Over 90% of the people that went to tea parties don't like rp and could care less what he has to say.
Stop ripping on the 90%.
Just wanted to point that fact out again.
If you are a rp, white power, troofer, jones or any other dumbass supporter you will be run out of there and photographed.
All I have to do now is convince Charles that most of the people that showed up are not bat shit crazy.
That is the really hard part...
Not being able to prove it kind of blows your "fact" to hell, huh?
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:49:45pm |
re: #71 jcm
Right! I think I looked that up after I saw it and had forgotten. You ever see one? Damn it was an amazing site. Rather big too. Red to orange color.
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dapperdave Fri, May 29, 2009 11:50:06pm |
re: #67 Deseeded
Of course! Now I remember what it was like go to school everyday and getting jumped on occasion, been there done that.
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Deseeded Fri, May 29, 2009 11:50:12pm |
re: #68 freedomplow
Over 90% of the people that went to tea parties don't like rp and could care less what he has to say.
Stop ripping on the 90%.
Just wanted to point that fact out again.
If you are a rp, white power, troofer, jones or any other dumbass supporter you will be run out of there and photographed.
All I have to do now is convince Charles that most of the people that showed up are not bat shit crazy.
That is the really hard part...
This makes a ton of sense. I went to the Tea Party in Worcester, MA and was there only to support a smaller government. THere were some really nuts. Lots of Impeach signs, etc. I figured it was 50/50 real nuts and others. It's too bad that small government = nutsos today. It's not bad to want an in check fed and sate govt. However, it's really hard to get that across with Paulians and whackos across the board.
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:50:13pm |
re: #65 Gus 802
I've never seen anything like that. I did see something once which I called St. Elmo's Fire. It was during an electrical storm and it looked like a plasma discharge in the sky. It looked like a ball of flame and was actually rather awesome to see.
a ball in the sky? what did it do?
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:51:03pm |
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jcm Fri, May 29, 2009 11:51:40pm |
re: #73 Gus 802
Right! I think I looked that up after I saw it and had forgotten. You ever see one? Damn it was an amazing site. Rather big too. Red to orange color.
Haven't seen ball lighting, been on planes with St. Elmo's fire a couple of times.
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Deseeded Fri, May 29, 2009 11:52:12pm |
re: #74 dapperdave
Of course! Now I remember what it was like go to school everyday and getting jumped on occasion, been there done that.
Duck and study!
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Sharmuta Fri, May 29, 2009 11:53:10pm |
re: #75 Deseeded
This makes a ton of sense. I went to the Tea Party in Worcester, MA and was there only to support a smaller government. THere were some really nuts. Lots of Impeach signs, etc. I figured it was 50/50 real nuts and others. It's too bad that small government = nutsos today. It's not bad to want an in check fed and sate govt. However, it's really hard to get that across with Paulians and whackos across the board.
See- your 50/50 really blows the "fact" thing too.
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3 Sigma E Fri, May 29, 2009 11:53:27pm |
re: #64 shiplord kirel
The socialist nag George Bernard Shaw was not a fan of Shakespeare. He coined the term "Bardolator" for those he considered guilty of worshipping Shakespeare's work. Shaw's main complaint, not surprisingly for someone who hero-worshipped Stalin, was that Shakespeare had failed to engage social problems.
Shaw's main complaint with Shakespeare was that with Shakespeare, Shaw could be only, at best, the second greatest playwright in the English -- or perhaps any other -- language.
On the other hand, I'm a Bardolator, so what do I know?
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MrPaulRevere Fri, May 29, 2009 11:53:28pm |
In my area the tea parties main speakers were local radio talk show hosts looking to boost their media profiles. Lets be honest here. The tea parties were an empty vessel ripe for infiltration and opportunism of all stripes.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, May 29, 2009 11:54:28pm |
For UFO sightings, you can always check the archives of the Mutual UFO Network's (MUFON) website.
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3 Sigma E Fri, May 29, 2009 11:55:16pm |
re: #75 Deseeded
It's too bad that small government = nutsos today.
Give it a few years of Obama and, with any luck, small government won't look quite so nutso.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, May 29, 2009 11:55:19pm |
re: #60 jcm
When I live in Iran we'd sleep on the roofs in summer. Our house was in line with the base leg for Mehribad airport. The landing lights would just hang there, then shoot off to the left when the plane turn on to final.
In the 80's there was a military house area in Hawaii on Oahu where those living there could see the tread on the tires of planes on final for Oahu International.
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:55:51pm |
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Deseeded Fri, May 29, 2009 11:56:39pm |
Lost formerbelgians post:
I understand the pull of "race", but to me race is solely "Homo Sapien" we aren't categorized as "Homo Sapien Niveus" etc. It seems like any party would do better to drop millions of dollars in to promoting actual plans to fix the situation...not promoting people who fit political agendas.....but then again I'm a political nihilist, so I see failure on all sides. :)
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jcm Fri, May 29, 2009 11:57:07pm |
re: #86 FurryOldGuyJeans
In the 80's there was a military house area in Hawaii on Oahu where those living there could see the tread on the tires of planes on final for Oahu International.
I would have love it! Airplane geek!
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Sharmuta Fri, May 29, 2009 11:57:14pm |
What does one mean though when they say "smaller government"? It's so open to interpretation, one should be more specific.
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Gus Fri, May 29, 2009 11:57:17pm |
re: #87 coldwarrior
i've seen plasma on the ground, it freaked me out. was beautiful!
Just don't touch it.
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:57:19pm |
re: #86 FurryOldGuyJeans
In the 80's there was a military house area in Hawaii on Oahu where those living there could see the tread on the tires of planes on final for Oahu International.
would those be bridgestones or dunlops?!?
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coldwarrior Fri, May 29, 2009 11:57:59pm |
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dapperdave Fri, May 29, 2009 11:58:11pm |
re: #88 jcm
Michael Moore and sunbathing in the same sentence? How could you?
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Deseeded Fri, May 29, 2009 11:58:19pm |
re: #88 jcm
How would I report Michael Moore sunbathing?
Unidentified Frying Object
ewww
Mind Bleach!
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jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 12:00:00am |
re: #95 dapperdave
Michael Moore and sunbathing in the same sentence? How could you?
LOL!
Approaching Iron Fist Rule territory, a pint of 10% ABV Stone Imperial Russian Stout for this evening's FNDT.
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gmsc Sat, May 30, 2009 12:00:01am |
Today in History, May 30th:
Highlights of this day in history: Clean-up ends at New York's Ground Zero, months after the Sept. 11th attacks; France's Joan of Arc burned at the stake; Baseball's Cal Ripken, Jr. begins his games streak; Bandleader Benny Goodman born.
Other notable May 30th events include:
1536 – King Henry VIII of England marries Jane Seymour, a lady-in-waiting to his first two wives.
1854 – The Kansas-Nebraska Act becomes law establishing the US territories of Nebraska and Kansas.
1868 – Decoration Day (the predecessor of the modern "Memorial Day") is observed in the United States for the first time (By "Commander-in-chief of the Grand Army of the Republic" John A. Logan's proclamation on May 5).
1879 – New York City's Gilmores Garden is renamed Madison Square Garden by William Henry Vanderbilt and is opened to the public at 26th Street and Madison Avenue.
1883 – In New York City, a rumor that the Brooklyn Bridge is going to collapse causes a stampede that crushes twelve people.
1911 – At the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the first Indianapolis 500 ends with Ray Harroun in his Marmon Wasp becoming the first winner of the 500-mile auto race.
1922 – In Washington, D.C. the Lincoln Memorial is dedicated.
1958 – Memorial Day: the remains of two unidentified American servicemen, killed in action during World War II and the Korean War respectively, are buried at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington National Cemetery.
1989 – Tiananmen Square protests of 1989: the 33-foot high "Goddess of Democracy" statue is unveiled in Tiananmen Square by student demonstrators.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 12:04:44am |
The Beatles- still selling strong decades later. Only one other artist has sold more records since 2000 than The Beatles. Can you guess which artist?
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 12:04:51am |
re: #68 freedomplow
Over 90% of the people that went to tea parties don't like rp and could care less what he has to say.
Stop ripping on the 90%.
Just wanted to point that fact out again.
If you are a rp, white power, troofer, jones or any other dumbass supporter you will be run out of there and photographed.
All I have to do now is convince Charles that most of the people that showed up are not bat shit crazy.
That is the really hard part...
It's never been even implied that "most of the people that showed up are" bat shit crazy.
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gmsc Sat, May 30, 2009 12:05:30am |
re: #103 Sharmuta
The Beatles- still selling strong decades later. Only one other artist has sold more records since 2000 than The Beatles. Can you guess which artist?
Elvis?
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Silvergirl Sat, May 30, 2009 12:05:51am |
re: #103 Sharmuta
The Beatles- still selling strong decades later. Only one other artist has sold more records since 2000 than The Beatles. Can you guess which artist?
Please don't say Michael Jackson.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:06:37am |
re: #90 jcm
I would have love it! Airplane geek!
The planes landing were both civilian commercial and military Air Force planes.
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freedomplow Sat, May 30, 2009 12:06:38am |
You got me Sharmuta ... I am a rp douche bag supporter.
Now that doesn't really pan out does it?
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jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 12:06:55am |
re: #103 Sharmuta
The Beatles- still selling strong decades later. Only one other artist has sold more records since 2000 than The Beatles. Can you guess which artist?
Shostokovic?
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 12:06:56am |
I think the last time Micheal Moore went sunbathing, a bunch of greenpeace activists tried throwing him into the water thinking they were rescuing a beached albino manatee...
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 12:07:10am |
re: #111 Deseeded
Don't say something like Prince, Sharm.
Nope- not him either. I have to guess at this point you will all be shocked by the answer.
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gmsc Sat, May 30, 2009 12:07:32am |
re: #116 Sharmuta
Nope- not him either. I have to guess at this point you will all be shocked by the answer.
Monkees?
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shiplord kirel Sat, May 30, 2009 12:07:35am |
re: #82 3 Sigma E
Shaw's main complaint with Shakespeare was that with Shakespeare, Shaw could be only, at best, the second greatest playwright in the English -- or perhaps any other -- language.
On the other hand, I'm a Bardolator, so what do I know?
On the other side of the coin, we have present-day critic Harold Bloom, who thinks Bardolatry hasn't gone far enough:
"In his 1998 survey, Shakespeare: The Invention of the Human, Bloom provides an analysis of each of Shakespeare's thirty-eight plays, "twenty-four of which are masterpieces." Written as a companion to the general reader and theatergoer, Bloom declares that bardolatry "ought to be even more a secular religion than it already is." He also contends in the work (as in the title) that Shakespeare "invented" humanity, in that he prescribed the now-common practice "overhearing" ourselves, which drives our changes."
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Silvergirl Sat, May 30, 2009 12:08:00am |
re: #109 Sharmuta
No.
Again- looking for top selling artist since 2000 to today.
Oh, since 2000. Hmm. I may have to wait for the answer.
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jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 12:08:13am |
re: #112 FurryOldGuyJeans
The planes landing were both civilian commercial and military Air Force planes.
Memorial Day weekend a bunch of warbirds were in Seattle, I didn't get to go down to the Museum of Flight, but I had a B-17, and a variety of planes fly over my house.
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Deseeded Sat, May 30, 2009 12:08:15am |
re: #116 Sharmuta
Nope- not him either. I have to guess at this point you will all be shocked by the answer.
I hope to be unpleasantly shocked. Hehehe
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:08:25am |
re: #88 jcm
How would I report Michael Moore sunbathing?
Unidentified Frying Object
Did someone say Michael Moore sunbathing?
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MrPaulRevere Sat, May 30, 2009 12:08:30am |
re: #91 Sharmuta
I have a problem with the term 'small government'. Any federal government of a nation our size will be large in terms of the number of employees, the number of buildings it owns, etc... Work on limiting the scope of the federal government and you might have an opportunity to pare down its 'size'.
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dapperdave Sat, May 30, 2009 12:09:05am |
re: #124 FurryOldGuyJeans
I will NOT click on that link.
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jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 12:09:11am |
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Deseeded Sat, May 30, 2009 12:09:27am |
re: #124 FurryOldGuyJeans
Did someone say Michael Moore sunbathing?
Oh man do I hate you right now. Hate hate hate!
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gmsc Sat, May 30, 2009 12:10:46am |
From PajamasMedia:
Why Are Conservatives So Mean?
Andrew Klavan
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shiplord kirel Sat, May 30, 2009 12:10:54am |
You could do worse than worshiping Shakespeare. The Texas Aggie cult, which flourishes exotically in some corners of the Lone Star State, worships a dog named Revile or something like that. Perhaps they are just dyslexic. The creature returned their devotion by biting his handler a few years ago
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:11:01am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:12:06am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:12:27am |
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Deseeded Sat, May 30, 2009 12:12:49am |
re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans
You're welcome. ;)
I wish we could brillo people online. You'd be in line! Hahah
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:14:34am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:16:15am |
re: #147 jcm
You know, I have this strange habit of actually reading what a link is before I click on 'em, and that link says TOXIC! ;)
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jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 12:17:18am |
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jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 12:17:52am |
re: #150 FurryOldGuyJeans
You know, I have this strange habit of actually reading what a link is before I click on 'em, and that link says TOXIC! ;)
LOL, you've become wise in the ways of LGF grasshopper.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 12:18:01am |
re: #151 MrPaulRevere
Considering the Beatles broke up in 1970- it's amazing they're #2 on the list. That's actually UP since the 90s when they came in at #5.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:19:16am |
re: #153 jcm
LOL, you've become wise in the ways of LGF grasshopper.
I had that habit from before lgf, but it sure helps around this place. ;)
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 12:19:24am |
re: #133 gmsc
From PajamasMedia:
Why Are Conservatives So Mean?
Andrew Klavan[Video]
That won't play well at all with young people. Honestly, he lost me when he said "it's not because they both have dark skin..."
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 12:20:03am |
re: #151 MrPaulRevere
You're lucky you guessed it. If nobody had, I was going to play a song while announcing the answer.
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jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 12:20:12am |
re: #154 Sharmuta
Considering the Beatles broke up in 1970- it's amazing they're #2 on the list. That's actually UP since the 90s when they came in at #5.
Where's the King?
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MrPaulRevere Sat, May 30, 2009 12:21:02am |
re: #154 Sharmuta
Its a tribute to their talent, writing and musicianship, obviously. I was glad to see Johnny Cash in the top 20.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 12:22:09am |
re: #161 MrPaulRevere
I was too. I think his covers of more modern bands before his death, and the movie a few years ago may have spurred more folks to take an interest in his music.
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Silvergirl Sat, May 30, 2009 12:22:43am |
re: #157 Gus 802
That won't play well at all with young people. Honestly, he lost me when he said "it's not because they both have dark skin..."
He lost me a little sooner than that.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:24:27am |
re: #163 Sharmuta
I was too. I think his covers of more modern bands before his death, and the movie a few years ago may have spurred more folks to take an interest in his music.
The movie is probably the biggest impetus for the resurged interest in his music.
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freedomplow Sat, May 30, 2009 12:24:43am |
re: #75 Deseeded
This makes a ton of sense. I went to the Tea Party in Worcester, MA and was there only to support a smaller government. THere were some really nuts. Lots of Impeach signs, etc. I figured it was 50/50 real nuts and others. It's too bad that small government = nutsos today. It's not bad to want an in check fed and sate govt. However, it's really hard to get that across with Paulians and whackos across the board.
Tell them to get the hell out.
Not buying it btw.
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 12:25:20am |
re: #164 Silvergirl
He lost me a little sooner than that.
Yeah, he did here as well. I don't get it. Why do they make videos like that at Pajama's Media? It's like an attempt to communicate with recent college grads yet go in an opposite direction? Plus the record of the opposing party is far from being anything but a Federalist party.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 12:26:24am |
re: #133 gmsc
I stopped at the Laura Croft reference. I found that 1 minute to be very condescending.
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gmsc Sat, May 30, 2009 12:26:39am |
re: #157 Gus 802
That won't play well at all with young people. Honestly, he lost me when he said "it's not because they both have dark skin..."
Really?
Alexis de Tocqueville's Democracry in America is still an excellent read.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 12:26:58am |
re: #165 FurryOldGuyJeans
The movie is probably the biggest impetus for the resurged interest in his music.
I really enjoyed it.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 12:27:44am |
re: #163 Sharmuta
His covers of NIN's Hurt and U2's "One" are also just both brilliant in themselves. Love Cash.
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 12:27:45am |
re: #169 gmsc
Really?
Alexis de Tocqueville's Democracry in America is still an excellent read.
Never read it and I'm sure it is. But the video was a populist interpretation.
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jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 12:27:58am |
Night Honcos......
Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.
James Madison
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:28:24am |
re: #167 Gus 802
Yeah, he did here as well. I don't get it. Why do they make videos like that at Pajama's Media? It's like an attempt to communicate with recent college grads yet go in an opposite direction? Plus the record of the opposing party is far from being anything but a Federalist party.
Perception trumps record, and the perception of either party by the majority of state indoctrinated students is not supported by the facts.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:29:30am |
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freedomplow Sat, May 30, 2009 12:29:56am |
A lot of people want to think that the out of control spending is some how tied into rp.
No, it is not.
Get over that you think it is.
Bias much?
Ron Paul is an ass.
Never going to vote for him.
Nothing to do with anything else.
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 12:29:58am |
re: #174 FurryOldGuyJeans
Perception trumps record, and the perception of either party by the majority of state indoctrinated students is not supported by the facts.
You make a good point. I was expecting to hear what you state: state indoctrinated students. That would be a valid and arguable case.
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, May 30, 2009 12:30:23am |
re: #161 MrPaulRevere
Its a tribute to their talent, writing and musicianship, obviously. I was glad to see Johnny Cash in the top 20.
Johnny Cash- Ring of Fire 1968
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 12:30:31am |
re: #171 iceweasel
My favorite from that album was When The Man Comes Around, which if I'm not mistaken was one of the few that wasn't a cover.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 12:32:05am |
Check out this chick beatboxer! You GO, girl!
[Link: video.yahoo.com...]
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 12:33:21am |
re: #176 freedomplow
A lot of people want to think that the out of control spending is some how tied into rp.
Who thinks that?
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Silvergirl Sat, May 30, 2009 12:34:14am |
re: #180 Sharmuta
Check out this chick beatboxer! You GO, girl!
[Link: video.yahoo.com...]
Yes, I got that link in an e-mail awhile back. Yeah!
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freetoken Sat, May 30, 2009 12:34:56am |
re: #167 Gus 802
It may be an attempt at humor. Dinged it down for a couple of reasons, e.g., the "metrosexual" statement.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 12:34:58am |
re: #179 Fenway_Nation
You're right, that wasn't a cover. I don't have that album actually, just a few tracks from it. I really should pick it up.
Now I'm going to have to go dig up Live From Folsom Prison, I'm needing some of the Man!
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 12:36:11am |
re: #167 Gus 802
Yeah, he did here as well. I don't get it. Why do they make videos like that at Pajama's Media? It's like an attempt to communicate with recent college grads yet go in an opposite direction? Plus the record of the opposing party is far from being anything but a Federalist party.
God only knows. It's kind of amazing that they originally wanted to harness the power of the new medium, and they're now.....producing bad TV, basically.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 12:36:34am |
Other than being a member of Congress, I don't think ron paul has anything to do with out of control spending. He's a tiny fraction of the spenders.
I think his solution is insane, and will not do a damn thing to control government spending. This whole "audit the Fed" idea is a deflection- and he knows it. The Fed doesn't control the spending in Washington- he and his peers do.
You want to fix out of control spending, freedomplow? It's called the Balanced Budget Amendment. Promote that at your tea party.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:38:45am |
re: #185 iceweasel
God only knows. It's kind of amazing that they originally wanted to harness the power of the new medium, and they're now.....producing bad TV, basically.
Bad TV is easy to make, just as it is easy to make bad movies. Good is hard, and requires a subtle and deft hand.
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 12:39:03am |
re: #183 freetoken
It may be an attempt at humor. Dinged it down for a couple of reasons, e.g., the "metrosexual" statement.
Yep. Pulling the metrosexual word is tantamount to ad hominem. It didn't even provide a compelling case for why conservatives are seen as "being mean."
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Silvergirl Sat, May 30, 2009 12:40:05am |
All my dreams are on their way.
Good-night!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:40:15am |
re: #183 freetoken
It may be an attempt at humor. Dinged it down for a couple of reasons, e.g., the "metrosexual" statement.
Throwing out metrosexual would garner a near automatic hairy eyeball from me, regardless of the context.
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MrPaulRevere Sat, May 30, 2009 12:43:17am |
re: #178 Shiplord Kirel
My personal Johnny Cash favorite, with a hat tip to the great Marty Robbins...
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:45:05am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 12:46:41am |
re: #187 FurryOldGuyJeans
Bad TV is easy to make, just as it is easy to make bad movies. Good is hard, and requires a subtle and deft hand.
Very true. It's just weird that their original intent was to take full advantage of the new medium, and they're running with a model that is so old and cringeworthy.
It's like Michael Steele saying the party's going to appeal to an "urban-suburban hiphop" sensibility or sending out some "slum love" to Jindal. So tonedeaf that it's mortifying.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 12:48:36am |
re: #195 iceweasel
Very true. It's just weird that their original intent was to take full advantage of the new medium, and they're running with a model that is so old and cringeworthy.
It's like Michael Steele saying the party's going to appeal to an "urban-suburban hiphop" sensibility or sending out some "slum love" to Jindal. So tonedeaf that it's mortifying.
Conservatism never should rely on the mechanics of the medium to relay the message. That is the province of propaganda and the Left.
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 12:53:26am |
re: #195 iceweasel
Very true. It's just weird that their original intent was to take full advantage of the new medium, and they're running with a model that is so old and cringeworthy.
It's like Michael Steele saying the party's going to appeal to an "urban-suburban hiphop" sensibility or sending out some "slum love" to Jindal. So tonedeaf that it's mortifying.
I just did a partial transcript of the video:
OK, one of those was the big creepy Persian guys from 300. But it's kind of hard to tell them apart. And no it's not because they both have dark skin and are narcissistic metrosexuals. It's because they are both offering the same tyranny of animal pleasures...
Thus we have:
Creepy Persian Guys
Dark Skin
Metrosexuals
Animal Pleasures
I know it's PJ Media and I'm required to accept this kind of talk but frankly, it's weird.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 12:55:16am |
re: #196 FurryOldGuyJeans
Conservatism never should rely on the mechanics of the medium to relay the message. That is the province of propaganda and the Left.
My point is only that PJM kind of gave up on harnassing the power of the Internet when it moved into being PJTV. That's a mistake, and further, even people on the right concede that the left is far better at exploiting the power of the Internet.
It's an untapped resource that gave the left a huge advantage in the 2008 campaign, and it would be smart if the right could catch up. Imagine if the right had decided to never appear on TV or use the TV when that medium appeared, instead sticking to radio.
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theheat Sat, May 30, 2009 12:56:28am |
Giant Laser Reactor Unveiled in California
Not just Star Trek stuff any more.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 12:57:04am |
re: #197 Gus 802
I know it's PJ Media and I'm required to accept this kind of talk but frankly, it's weird.
Very, very weird.
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 1:01:31am |
re: #201 iceweasel
Very, very weird.
Very, I'm tempted to use the emphasized words:
Why I don't like those dark skinned creepy Persian guys that live down the hall. I think all they're up to is them there metrosexual animal pleasures and such. Why no I don't like them at all.
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 1:09:21am |
re: #205 laZardo
At least they are kind.
/ 0:
I reckon so. I'm just amazed that PJ Media would give a pass for this given the code words and such. Not really amazed but I think you know what I mean.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 1:12:51am |
re: #206 Gus 802
I reckon so. I'm just amazed that PJ Media would give a pass for this given the code words and such. Not really amazed but I think you know what I mean.
Yep. That whole thing is filled with codewords that basically act as a dogwhistle calling out to homophobes, and racists. Unbelievable.
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 1:16:32am |
re: #207 iceweasel
Yep. That whole thing is filled with codewords that basically act as a dogwhistle calling out to homophobes, and racists. Unbelievable.
What PJ Media really meant to say:
OK, one of those was the big creepy Arab Muslim guys from 300. But it's kind of hard to tell them apart. And no it's not because they are both Negr**s and are narcissistic homosexuals. It's because they are both offering the same tyranny of gay sex pleasures...
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, May 30, 2009 1:21:02am |
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 1:29:58am |
re: #209 Shiplord Kirel
re: #207 iceweasel
I agree. All is not right with the right.
It's not. And why they allow people like Andrew Klaven to speak for conservatives is beyond me. Here's something he had to say regarding women:
And because we’ve allowed leftists to define the language of political good manners—don’t say women are less scientific; don’t remark that black people bear the same responsibility for their actions as whites; don’t point out that the gunman was a Muslim, it’s not nice—the sort of person willing to speak the truth isn’t always the sort of person you want to be seen with. It sometimes takes, I mean, a Rush Limbaugh or a Sean Hannity to withstand the obloquy attached to stating the facts of the matter. If these people in their public personae seem harsh to more genteel conservatives, it may be because it requires that extra dollop of aggression to shatter the silence created by the Left’s increasingly elaborate sensitivities.
Andrew Klaven seems to even think that "women are less scientific no less.
He also seems to have some serious racist baggage.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 1:32:59am |
re: #211 Gus 802
He also seems to have some serious racist baggage.
Klaven is awful. From your link:
I’ve been banned from my monthly poker game, lost tennis partners, lost friends
Wow Andrew, I wonder why?
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 1:36:31am |
re: #212 iceweasel
He also seems to have some serious racist baggage.
Klaven is awful. From your link:
Wow Andrew, I wonder why?
I can't imagine why. There are women that can no doubt run scientific circles around Andrew Klaven working at NASA, Dryden, Edwards AFB, etc. The title of that essay was no less "The Big White Lie." More code words.
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 1:40:58am |
And because we’ve allowed leftists to define the language of political good manners—don’t say women are less scientific.Andrew Klaven
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 1:41:46am |
re: #213 Gus 802
The title of that essay was no less "The Big White Lie." More code words.
Oh, well spotted!
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Gus Sat, May 30, 2009 1:44:39am |
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jhrhv Sat, May 30, 2009 1:50:14am |
Has anyone read anything about the proposed VAT? I'm just going to go looking for some stories. I was expecting it would be bigger news then it seems to be.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 1:50:38am |
re: #217 littleoldlady
Hey you! Good thing you're back....hardly anyone touched my fruitcup last night.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 1:51:35am |
Fenway! :-)
I'm glad someone made it!
/did you forget to put in the blueberries? ;-)
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 1:52:42am |
re: #220 littleoldlady
Fenway! :-)
I'm glad someone made it!
/did you forget to put in the blueberries? ;-)
Not at all. Not in vodka form, at least.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 1:52:52am |
re: #216 Gus 802
The more I look the more I find this man to be repugnant.
People like him are helping to damage the credibility of conservatives and the GOP. Add to that the incessant demands that the party be purged and calling everyone reasonable a RINO--well, this is why people on the liberal blogs are joking that the Republican party should just rename itself "Your Crazy Racist Uncle".
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 1:54:18am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 1:54:30am |
re: #221 Fenway_Nation
Not at all. Not in vodka form, at least.
Funniest thing I've read all night. :)
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freetoken Sat, May 30, 2009 1:55:31am |
re: #197 Gus 802
I just did a partial transcript of the video:[...]
Thus we have:
Creepy Persian Guys
Dark Skin
Metrosexuals
Animal PleasuresI know it's PJ Media and I'm required to accept this kind of talk but frankly, it's weird.
I'm wondering if it is not a sekrit code of some sort...
The key words you identified correctly, but it took a while to decipher. They are using anagrams, and the four phrases you identified become:
Eugenics Prayer Spy
Rad Kinks
Earl Mutes Sox
Pamela Sea In Slur
The first obviously deals with the sins of Darwinism. Who the "spy" may be is yet to be determined.
As for the Kinks... yes, they could be thought of as "rad". More importantly, one of the Kinks' songs plays an important role on an entry at the lgf2 website entry of 21 April attacking, of course, CJ.
"Earl Mutes Sox" of course could only refer to one Earl Weaver, who as manager of the Orioles successfully shut down any aspirations the RedSox or WhiteSox would have had of getting to the World Series. muting their fans. Of course any longtime lgf reader knows of the prominent postings of lizards with "Sox", "Red", "Fenway" etc. in their handles.
"Pamela Sea In Slur" obviously refers to one Ms. Geller, and the issues surrounding her.
So there, it appears as if our comedian at PJTV has encoded a message to LGF, and not a very complimentary one at that.
Oh how dark the internet has become, how nefarious are the days in which we live.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 1:57:28am |
re: #226 freetoken
Oh how dark the internet has become, how nefarious are the days in which we live.
ACK! I'M SKEERD!
freetoken! :-)
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 1:59:17am |
re: #222 iceweasel
I'm personally expecting the Democrats to move to the right/center and a new liberal party to form in the stead it left behind.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 1:59:59am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 2:00:35am |
re: #230 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!
Thank you littleoldlady!
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 2:04:00am |
re: #226 freetoken
"Earl Mutes Sox" of course could only refer to one Earl Weaver, who as manager of the Orioles successfully shut down any aspirations the RedSox or WhiteSox would have had of getting to the World Series. muting their fans. Of course any longtime lgf reader knows of the prominent postings of lizards with "Sox", "Red", "Fenway" etc. in their handles.
Jeez....I didn't think you were reading too much into it until my name came up...
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freetoken Sat, May 30, 2009 2:05:14am |
re: #230 littleoldlady
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Ummm... you didn't happen to hire Red to help you this morning, did you?
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 2:07:18am |
re: #236 freetoken
NICE! :-)
Actually, he was supposed to be on the job the past two mornings.
/was he?
I made him promise not to poison y'all.
/did he?
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 2:08:48am |
re: #239 littleoldlady
Well....there's always Skynet Fruitcupitron 3000.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 2:09:59am |
re: #229 laZardo
I'm personally expecting the Democrats to move to the right/center and a new liberal party to form in the stead it left behind.
You may well be right. I wonder if the same will happen in the Republican party right now--abandon the party to the lunatic fringe and form a true conservative party.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 2:10:34am |
re: #240 Fenway_Nation
As long as you load it with "blueberries"! ;-)
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, May 30, 2009 2:10:57am |
re: #229 laZardo
I'm personally expecting the Democrats to move to the right/center and a new liberal party to form in the stead it left behind.
I think that could happen, with the main impetus for it coming from the far left, the left of Hollywood and tenured faculty. These elements feel betrayed by Obama, for whom they had such high hopes (corresponding precisely to our worst fears, of course). All is not lost for them, the headlong plunge to Marxism continues unabated, but I think it will be arrested and the far left, crestfallen that their messiah is just another pragmatic American politician, will bolt for its own party. They have the collective power to do it, if they can only get organized. Their influence in the traditional media is the key.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 2:13:44am |
Scrolling through the MUFON sightings archive in the other window. It's like online campfire stories....
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 2:17:31am |
re: #243 Shiplord Kirel
Shiplord! :-)
I don't think they have the numbers, and they're smart enough to know it and not alienate the middle-of-the-road Dems.
/unlike a lot Republicans...
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 2:17:53am |
re: #243 Shiplord Kirel
There definitely are a lot of people on the left who are angry with Obama over the same things that LGF has been pleasantly surprised by-- namely his decisions regarding torture (i refer to the release of the photos), war crimes prosecution, the preservation of many Bush policies.
At the same time, many on the left are willing to give Obama a pass on those things because he's Obama--even though they were furiously angry about those same policies and decisions under Bush.
Glenn Greenwald has been excellent at pointing out the hypocrisy there: liberals who objected to what they saw as a personality cult around Bush, who are nonetheless perfectly willing to form one around Obama.
I'm not sure if the disappointed elements of the party are strong enough to successfully split off, though.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 2:23:37am |
re: #248 littleoldlady
*waves* Thank you! I'm excited to finally 'meet' the famous littleoldlady!
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 2:24:44am |
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 2:24:45am |
re: #243 Shiplord Kirel
I'm not talking about just the Greens though.
That said, I mentioned this because I do not think right-wing "values" apart from libertarianism (i.e. smaller-government hence the lowercase l) have any positive thing to contribute to America anymore.
Of course, the radicals will always be very easily jaded, but there are still quite a few who recognize that 8 years of Bush won't take 150 days to clear up.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 2:25:24am |
Golly!
/...smooths out pajamas...
//...sits up a little straighter...
;-)
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 2:27:14am |
re: #251 laZardo
I'm not talking about just the Greens though.
That said, I mentioned this because I do not think right-wing "values" apart from libertarianism (i.e. smaller-government hence the lowercase l) have any positive thing to contribute to America anymore.
Of course, the radicals will always be very easily jaded, but there are still quite a few who recognize that 8 years of Bush won't take 150 days to clear up.
So Reagan Republicanism is dead?
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 2:33:29am |
Having missed a couple of days here at LGF...how did the VAT (tax) go over?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 2:34:47am |
re: #250 Fenway_Nation
I'm a big fan of the infamous Fenway. :) From now on I might only call you "the infamous Fenway." I like the ring of it.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 2:40:49am |
re: #254 littleoldlady
Having missed a couple of days here at LGF...how did the VAT (tax) go over?
I didn't see a discussion of it here. But from what I have been reading recently on lgf it will be a big hit. It will be the death knell of the Republican party.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 2:41:55am |
re: #256 BatGuano
Really?! How so? I would have thought it would mean the end of the Dems...
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 2:46:30am |
re: #253 BatGuano
Well, the Cold War did end nigh 20 years ago.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 2:50:14am |
re: #257 littleoldlady
Really?! How so? I would have thought it would mean the end of the Dems...
The Dems are in the ascendancy. The Republicans are sinking. From what I have been reading here recently, conservatives have got to stop being mean and move to the center, ie, be more liberal. G. Gordon Liddy is now a Republican leader! A value added tax will have no opposition. There is no will.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 2:51:19am |
I figure VAT would go over about as well as cap and trade.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 2:51:24am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 2:53:57am |
re: #259 BatGuano
G. Gordon Liddy is now a Republican leader!
God, I hope not. Liddy is only the leader of Teh Crazy. Here is what he said about Sotomoyer today:
Let’s hope that the key conferences aren’t when she’s menstruating or something, or just before she’s going to menstruate. That would really be bad. Lord knows what we would get then.
Audio and more here [Link: thinkprogress.org...]
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 2:54:30am |
re: #261 BatGuano
Reagan's policies brought an end to that era. As such, these were policies best suited to ending that era, more so than the present.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 2:54:40am |
re: #260 Fenway_Nation
I figure VAT would go over about as well as cap and trade.
I hope you are right. The right doesn't seem to have the guts to fight anymore. Is cap and trade dead? (I hope)
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 2:55:07am |
re: #230 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!
We missed you yesterday!
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 2:55:11am |
re: #260 Fenway_Nation
We have VAT here in Manila, but most of the time it's "inclusive," e.g. they just slot it into the cost already so there's little price increase.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 2:58:07am |
You know- I'm starting to get pissed with this "move to the left" thing.
As far as spending goes- the republicans already moved left. For 8 years, we've had big spending repubs in Washington. How about we try some fiscal conservatives since the soc-cons just want to spend your money like democrats? Huh? How's that for an idea?
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 2:58:13am |
re: #259 BatGuano
Once Upon a Time (like, back in October 2008) I had an unshakable faith in The American People. Well, we all know THAT went down the crapper. Now I have to put my faith in 3rd grade math. A 25% increase in the cost of EVERYTHING, coupled with stagnant wages, may finally wake a few folks up. Maybe.
And maybe then I can finally introduce my new party: The Clean Out Washington Party. ALL OF THEM - OUT! Disinfect with bleach. Start all over again.
/Perhaps...I dunno...we could use the Constitution as a guide...
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 2:59:23am |
re: #268 littleoldlady
And maybe then I can finally introduce my new party: The Clean Out Washington Party. ALL OF THEM - OUT! Disinfect with bleach. Start all over again.
/Perhaps...I dunno...we could use the Constitution as a guide...
Use the COW-pie. That'll work wonders.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 2:59:57am |
re: #262 iceweasel
BatGuano is being facetious. He seems to be upset by the idea that we should woo moderates and independents. It's not that hard to do, though. We just stick with fiscal issues, and let folks keep their privacy. So crazy- it might work.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 3:00:41am |
re: #264 BatGuano
No....it and Card Check seem to be losing traction. This might explain why the WH is so eager to talk up the economy....not just so BH0 can take credit for it, but so that they can create the perception that the economy is on a better footing than it really is in order to pass both the ruinous Cap & Trade and Card Check legislation, which would basically send energy costs through the roof and slaughter small businesses in a staggering number of ways.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 3:00:50am |
re: #267 Sharmuta
You know- I'm starting to get pissed with this "move to the left" thing.
As far as spending goes- the republicans already moved left. For 8 years, we've had big spending repubs in Washington. How about we try some fiscal conservatives since the soc-cons just want to spend your money like democrats? Huh? How's that for an idea?
Bill Clinton was a fiscal conservative...
/budget surpluses don't lie...
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 3:00:58am |
re: #262 iceweasel
Audio and more here [Link: thinkprogress.org...]
I have seen on these web pages Liddy held up to be a Republican conservative. I think he is a nutcase who has nothing to do with Republicans or the conservative movement. I do not want this imbecile used a representative of conservatives.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:01:29am |
re: #272 laZardo
Bill Clinton was a fiscal conservative...
/budget surpluses don't lie...
Are you on crack?!
The only reason the budget was balanced was because of the republicans in Congress.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 3:01:29am |
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:02:28am |
re: #268 littleoldlady
How about a Balanced Budget party. One that will leave me alone in my own house?
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 3:02:55am |
re: #276 Sharmuta
Don't ask. :-(
/short version - NEVER pick a fight with the phone compnay
/You.Will.Not.Win.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 3:03:00am |
re: #267 Sharmuta
You know- I'm starting to get pissed with this "move to the left" thing.
As far as spending goes- the republicans already moved left. For 8 years, we've had big spending repubs in Washington. How about we try some fiscal conservatives since the soc-cons just want to spend your money like democrats? Huh? How's that for an idea?
That's way too logical and sensible. One might think you were suggesting a return to real conservative principles. That's crazy talk!
You're right, I think it would be the best thing for the the GOP and also the country at large.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 3:04:13am |
re: #274 Sharmuta
And the President is the one who submits the budgets. IIRC he's the one who signs them, too.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 3:04:16am |
re: #277 Sharmuta
How about a Balanced Budget party. One that will leave me alone in my own house?
That works!
Or a Keep Your Cotton Pickin' hands Off My Money Party.
?
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 30, 2009 3:04:36am |
re: #272 laZardo
Bill Clinton was a fiscal conservative...
/budget surpluses don't lie...
Clinton had a GOP controlled house to keep him in check.
/Seems so long ago- I think they were doodling outlines on the Nazca plains while that was going on.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:04:58am |
re: #279 iceweasel
That's way too logical and sensible. One might think you were suggesting a return to real conservative principles. That's crazy talk!
You're right, I think it would be the best thing for the the GOP and also the country at large.
Yeah- I got this wild hair up my butt not too long ago and read The Conscience of a Conservative. You want to talk about crazy? This guy thought government spending was too high, and that a strong military would benefit the country. Among other crazy ideas.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 3:05:18am |
re: #268 littleoldlady
WE need the constitution now more than we ever have before. That is what I want.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:05:55am |
re: #280 laZardo
You don't know American government. The HOUSE is where all spending bills start- by LAW. The president submits a proposed budget. Congress doesn't have to do anything with it if they don't want to.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:06:40am |
re: #281 littleoldlady
That works!
Or a Keep Your Cotton Pickin' hands Off My Money Party.
?
And out of my own private space I call home!
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SixDegrees Sat, May 30, 2009 3:06:54am |
re: #243 Shiplord Kirel
I think that could happen, with the main impetus for it coming from the far left, the left of Hollywood and tenured faculty. These elements feel betrayed by Obama, for whom they had such high hopes.
There's another fear to add to the list. Remember Bush's evil Faith Based Initiatives? The ones the Left insisted were an attempt to establish a Dominionist theocracy from sea to shining sea using the immense power of the state?
Guess what? Obama is not only keeping that program; he's expanding it. And he's using exactly the same reasoning that Bush did: that churches already have an apparatus in place designed to reach out and distribute aide to the disadvantaged that is more streamlined and efficient than anything the government could ever hope to create, ensuring that far more aid dollars reach their targets rather than being sopped up by an ever-expanding bureaucracy. Apart from the guy in the White House, nothing has changed about the program.
I heard this yesterday on NPR, and you could hear duct tape being stripped off rolls in a desperate attempt to keep moonbat heads wrapped to prevent explosion.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:07:33am |
Because I don't know what part of government sticking its nose into my private business is "smaller government".
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 3:07:38am |
re: #287 SixDegrees
[insert inevitable reference to Reverend Wright here]
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 3:07:54am |
re: #273 BatGuano
I have seen on these web pages Liddy held up to be a Republican conservative. I think he is a nutcase who has nothing to do with Republicans or the conservative movement. I do not want this imbecile used a representative of conservatives.
I completely agree with you. He's a lunatic and he's got nothing to do with the GOP or the conservative movement.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:08:28am |
re: #273 BatGuano
I have seen on these web pages Liddy held up to be a Republican conservative. I think he is a nutcase who has nothing to do with Republicans or the conservative movement. I do not want this imbecile used a representative of conservatives.
Who did that?
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 3:12:16am |
re: #286 Sharmuta
I wonder is Republicans have any idea how much the abortion TABOO issue hurts them at the polls?
I personally know dozens of people who would no doubt support the Republican position on the economy and national security if it wasn't for that pesky little detail.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 3:13:09am |
re: #283 Sharmuta
Yeah- I got this wild hair up my butt not too long ago and read The Conscience of a Conservative. You want to talk about crazy? This guy thought government spending was too high, and that a strong military would benefit the country. Among other crazy ideas.
I really should read that.
I'd love to see a return to Goldwater conservatism. I'm as liberal as it's possible to be on social issues, but I'm an independent and if there were a vibrant conservative party along those lines a LOT of people like me could wind up voting for them. I sure would.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 3:13:17am |
re: #285 Sharmuta
Granted, I'm a n00b when it comes to the whole process of the thing, but I doubt Congress would have deviated that much from the proposal.
Of course, there is the possibility that a lot of things would have been hacked and slashed just to create the surplus in the first place.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 3:14:11am |
re: #270 Sharmuta
BatGuano is being facetious. He seems to be upset by the idea that we should woo moderates and independents. It's not that hard to do, though. We just stick with fiscal issues, and let folks keep their privacy. So crazy- it might work.
Sharmuta, I am all for expanding the party to include moderates and independents. That can be done by staying true to conservative principles. Both Bush's violated them by increasing the size of the government.
"He seems to be upset by the idea that we should woo moderates and independents. "
I hope I misinterpreted the above comment.
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SixDegrees Sat, May 30, 2009 3:19:01am |
re: #289 laZardo
[insert inevitable reference to Reverend Wright here]
Feel free. Those on the Left, however, are not at all happy to see program after program after program started by Bush being embraced by the new Administration. For many of them, all religion is evil and needs to be done away with.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:20:18am |
re: #292 littleoldlady
The republicans have no idea because they're beholden to those that push those issues.
re: #293 iceweasel
Yes- you should read that.
re: #294 laZardo
Congress spends the money. It doesn't matter what the president wants- the Constitutional authority is with the House first.
re: #295 BatGuano
When you keep harping on things like "moving to the left" then that's what it comes across as. We already moved to the left fiscally, and to the far right socially. This should be reversed on both counts. When I see snickers at the suggestion that we moderate ourselves, yes- I think people don't get the problem. The social "conservatives" are welcome to keep holding others hostage in this party. I won't be held hostage anymore. They are killing us.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 3:20:53am |
re: #291 Sharmuta
That would require me going back through all the threads and noting the mentions of Liddy. He should not have appeared at all.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:22:31am |
Has anyone else seen this story? It's a great thing the right is so cool about letting people have their privacy. We're going to be a hit with these kids in 2012. ///
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:23:46am |
re: #298 BatGuano
OK- when you see it though, you should speak out against it. Maybe report it to Charles so he knows who is doing this.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 3:24:51am |
re: #299 Sharmuta
What do you expect, it's the OC 90210 LA. q; "Not an attention-seeking clown" my ass.
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Geepers Sat, May 30, 2009 3:26:08am |
littleoldlady (#292),
Yes well people who choose a meal based on one thing usually end up with something they don't particularly like.
"Why are you getting the beef stew?"
"I like carrots."
But you hate onions, don't like potatoes and you're a vegetation."
"I like carrots."
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:26:44am |
re: #301 laZardo
That's not the point. There are a lot of kids who have no issues with gays, and we alienate them by being less than supportive of that community.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 3:27:29am |
re: #292 littleoldlady
I wonder is Republicans have any idea how much the
abortionTABOO issue hurts them at the polls?I personally know dozens of people who would no doubt support the Republican position on the economy and national security if it wasn't for that pesky little detail.
Littleoldlady, conservativies should stay the hell out of abortion. I do not agree with Roe V. Wade, but it should not be a republican issue. The states should decide their stance. It should not be a test of whether your are conservative or not.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 3:28:31am |
Geepers! :-)
Agreed, but YOU try talking them out of it!
/me, I'm tired...
How have you been?!
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 3:29:57am |
Vegetation?
/some of my best friends are vegetations!
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:30:09am |
littleoldlady- rumor has it the big finale of Britain's Got Talent is tonight. We should have Susan's last performance sometimes later today if they get it up on youtube quickly.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 3:31:50am |
re: #297 Sharmuta
We already moved to the left fiscally, and to the far right socially. This should be reversed on both counts. When I see snickers at the suggestion that we moderate ourselves, yes- I think people don't get the problem. The social "conservatives" are welcome to keep holding others hostage in this party. I won't be held hostage anymore. They are killing us.
Completely true. The problem is that reagan republicanism made an unholy deal with the religious right in order to gain a majority. And it worked for a long time-- they'd blow the dogwhistle about abortion, or gay marriage, or flag burning, and the crazies would faithfully mobilize and vote for them. They kept doing it year after year, even though they never got the political gains the GOP was cynically promising them.
Then when W got elected they were over the moon. Here, they thought, was finally one of their own.
Surprise, surprise. All they got in return was a couple of SCOTUS appointments that were conservative, yet none that could even upset the balance of the court or change the tide on Roe.
Now those people are ANGRY and the genie is out of the bottle. They are controlling the GOP, framing and driving the discourse, and driving away EVERYONE who is a true conservative as well as countless independents and moderates.
They're like Frankenstein's monster. They have to be stopped.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 3:31:50am |
re: #300 Sharmuta
OK- when you see it though, you should speak out against it. Maybe report it to Charles so he knows who is doing this.
There is nothing for me to investigate. And there is nothing to report to Charles.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 3:32:12am |
re: #310 Sharmuta
Sorry if I ticked you off there. I wasn't sure if you meant the gay community or the "kids who have no problem with gays" community.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 3:32:21am |
re: #309 Sharmuta
I heard she had a meltdown backstage...or was that just show-hype?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 3:33:42am |
re: #298 BatGuano
That would require me going back through all the threads and noting the mentions of Liddy. He should not have appeared at all.
I haven't seen anybody at all say that liddy is a true conservative or somehow representative of the GOP, but several of us have been talking about that comment he made and how awful it is.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:35:27am |
re: #314 littleoldlady
I just watched a report that she's been moved to a "safe house". I think the press has gotten to her, and I can't say that I blame her. Imagine being a no one for 47 years, then millions of people know you overnight!
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 3:36:57am |
re: #299 Sharmuta
I had seen that, and I had the same thought.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 3:37:12am |
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:38:13am |
re: #311 iceweasel
You're alright, Newbie. How did you come to find LGF and what made you want to join?
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 3:38:31am |
re: #317 Sharmuta
I would really hate to give up my "nobody" status.
/somebody should give me lots of money so I can test that statement... ;-)
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Geepers Sat, May 30, 2009 3:39:08am |
Hey littleoldlady.
I'm fine.
Went to see Billy Joel and Elton John last Saturday, a most excellent show.
And I'm tired too, trying to keep the vegetation under control on Seven Acres is a full time job, and I've already got one of those.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 3:40:19am |
re: #317 Sharmuta
She sounds like the perfect compliment to Paul Potts IMO.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:40:36am |
re: #323 littleoldlady
I would really hate to give up my "nobody" status.
/somebody should give me lots of money so I can test that statement... ;-)
The press is just horrible, aren't they? And they're worse in the UK than here. I always feel a little bad for the celebrities when they get caught on camera looking horrible and embarrassing, and I really hate feeling sorry for celebrities.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:41:46am |
re: #326 laZardo
I prefer show tunes to opera, but that's just me. (And lol).
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 3:42:05am |
re: #315 iceweasel
I saw him mentioned earlier today on lgf, when he should have been ignored.
Maybe I'm getting too defensive, but I thought he was presented as an example of the loony right. I'll see if I can find the references.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, May 30, 2009 3:42:55am |
White House concedes Sonia Sotomayor misspoke in 2001
The White House moved Friday to try to tamp down a swirling controversy over a 2001 speech in which Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor suggested that Hispanic women make better judges than white men.
White House adjusts Biden's swine flu advice in 2009.
Officials seek to undo the damage after the vice president goes his own way, saying he'd tell family members to avoid planes, trains and other enclosed spaces.
What on earth would we do without the White House to divine our way through these silly, trifle mortal entanglements?
She misspoke, he misspoke...all better, CORRECT!?
Mornin folks. We are having fun, are we not?(see above) ;)
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:42:57am |
re: #325 Geepers
I saw Billy Joel many years ago, and he was great. To see him with Elton John must have been fantastic.
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BatGuano Sat, May 30, 2009 3:43:51am |
re: #330 BatGuano
Actually he is the loony right. I meant the mainstream right. It's late. :)
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 3:45:07am |
re: #325 Geepers
I'm jealous! Sounds like a GREAT show!
Seven Acres?! I have trouble keeping up with my 3/4!
/there are 2 teenaged male deer out there right now eating my shrubs
//do I go out chase them and risk having the neighbors all laugh at me?
;-)
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 3:45:44am |
re: #331 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
At least Bushisms were too funny to be offensive. q:
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Geepers Sat, May 30, 2009 3:52:42am |
Sharmuta (#332),
I saw Billy Joel many years ago, and he was great. To see him with Elton John must have been fantastic.
It was. They played together for half the show backing each other up. A truly amazing concert.
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Geepers Sat, May 30, 2009 3:54:40am |
littleoldlady (#334),
do I go out chase them and risk having the neighbors all laugh at me?
Sure why not?
And you might get lucky and be having venison for dinner.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 3:56:53am |
re: #340 BatGuano
Good night. I'm glad we could come to a better understanding, even if it was a little contested there. Sorry I didn't understand you and your position.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 3:57:02am |
re: #339 Geepers
BLECH!
But I already got lucky. Yesterday talloldman finally admitted that he doesn't like venison either.
/only took him 25 years
//wonder what's next?
;-)
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, May 30, 2009 4:05:22am |
Good morning Lol, laZardo :)
Bushism's...ohh for those days.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 4:06:16am |
re: #322 Sharmuta
You're alright, Newbie.
Thanks! :)
How did you come to find LGF and what made you want to join?
I've probably been reading LGF at least three times a week for 4 years or so.
Being a flaming leftie who hangs out on leftie blogs, I'd often see posts about LGF and criticisms of it. But I like to get all my facts from the source, and not cherrypicked quotes or distortions, so I always choose to read the context. Trust, but verify, you know? Consequently when I'd see a snarky post about LGF I'd always come here to check.
Sometimes I agreed with criticisms of LGF and of Charles' position on something in particular; quite often I didn't. MANY of the charges and accusations flung around about LGF--from the left and even more so from the right-- are complete distortions when not outright fabrications.
In particular, I gained a lot of respect for Charles. I think he's intellectually honest, and that's a rare quality. I don't always agree with his opinions, god knows, but he'll come out there and say what he thinks. For example his stances on creationism, on calling out Valaams B, on acknowledging when Obama does something right, on the Sotomoyer situation now--just loads of examples. Another example--my very first post here I mentioned that I disagreed with him about something--he gave me my first ever upding.
Also, the vast majority of the people here are quite cool and wellinformed and sharp. And I learn more from engaging with a community where I disagree, rather than hanging out in the echo chamber of a progressive blog where people already agree with me.
In general I think it's very important to listen carefully to people we disagree with and engage honestly with their arguments. It's hard to do but it's the best way we learn and can have a real dialogue.
thank you for asking, sorry this is so long.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:12:54am |
re: #347 iceweasel
Don't worry about the length- I'm glad you answered me. I always think it's interesting to find out what brought folks here to LGF.
I really don't have much to add to your comments about LGF. Although I'm wondering about the points you say you disagree with Charles on. Did you mean you agree and mistyped?
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:14:08am |
Hey, Geepers? Did you know justdanny's been around more lately? He shows up, and oddly enough, it makes me think of you.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 4:14:57am |
GEEPERS! Are you still here?!
How much should it cost me to replace a hot water heater?
/NOT having fun :-( :-( :-(
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The Other Les Sat, May 30, 2009 4:18:57am |
Today's Moron of the Day is brought to us by News Busters.
Actor Denis Leary said on Larry King Live:
“I think that President Obama is the greatest President in the history of all of our Presidents and that he can do no wrong in my book.”
To which I have to say that anyone who believes that they are following an infallible leader has already failed.
Calling these people idiots would be an undeserved compliment. This is because the word "idiot" is derived from the Greek word for someone who doesn't participate in public life. These full-blown raving lunatics would do a lot less damage in the future if they would just stay home on the days that we hold elections.
Isabel Paterson, a friend of Ayn Rand, had something to say about the phenomena of Leader Worship:
"Let it be asked how any person wholly devoid of talent, skill, accomplishment, wit, beauty, charm, or even the practical ability to earn a living by routine labor, can conceivably become an object of flattering, greeted with applause and given a hearing for the feeblest inanities -- obviously nothing will serve except political position."
She wrote this in 1943, back when the leaders being worshiped were good progressive gentlemen like Adolf Hitler, and Josef Stalin.
How much longer do we have to endure this nonsense?
_
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 4:20:24am |
re: #352 The Other Les
I had to google him to see who he was exactly. OK, the shit list has plenty of room. No problemo.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:22:07am |
re: #352 The Other Les
How much longer do we have to endure this nonsense?
Until fiscal conservatism rises again?
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 4:23:37am |
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The Other Les Sat, May 30, 2009 4:25:08am |
re: #355 Nevergiveup
Does that exist in a socialist state?
In socialism, fiscal conservatism means raising taxes and increasing spending.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:25:43am |
re: #355 Nevergiveup
Not when the other party does nothing about it except call everyone in their own party a bunch of RINOs.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 4:26:11am |
re: #348 laZardo
You already got an upding from Charles?
/curls up in corner, grumbling
Sorry. *blushes* I actually thought he might make a practice of doing it to new people; I had no idea it was something he rarely did.
i don't think my comment was particularly eloquent...it came at the end of a thread that was mostly dead but still recent, so I think it was just easier for him to see.
Anyway my point wasn't at all Yippie, I got an upding--just that it's really cool that Charles will upding people even when they are disagreeing with him. It's an example of his intellectual honesty, for me.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 4:26:15am |
re: #347 iceweasel
Hey Ice Baby! The intellectual honesty is what keeps me here.
Well, that and the puns.
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The Other Les Sat, May 30, 2009 4:26:44am |
re: #354 Sharmuta
Until fiscal conservatism rises again?
No. It's going to have to be radical capitalism for us.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:27:04am |
re: #356 The Other Les
In socialism, fiscal conservatism means raising taxes and increasing spending.
That's why socialist republicans need to go.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 4:28:08am |
re: #361 Sharmuta
That's why socialist republicans need to go.
hey hey
ho ho
socialist republicans need to go
hey hey
ho ho...
heh
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:29:13am |
re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
hey hey
ho ho
socialist republicans need to gohey hey
ho ho...heh
LOL! I love it. And it's true too.
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justdanny Sat, May 30, 2009 4:30:34am |
re: #359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey Ice Baby! The intellectual honesty is what keeps me here.
Well, that and the puns.
Hey Ice. The intellectual honesty is what keeps me here.
Well, that and the guns.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 4:30:57am |
Radical capitalism?!
GREAT idea! You may even get the far left to sign on to it.
"If it's RADICAL is must be good, right?"
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The Other Les Sat, May 30, 2009 4:34:24am |
re: #365 littleoldlady
Radical capitalism?!
GREAT idea! You may even get the far left to sign on to it.
"If it's RADICAL is must be good, right?"
I haven't seen The Goode Family yet.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 4:34:40am |
re: #364 justdanny
Well, I have been working out.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:37:09am |
Does anyone remember that scene in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure when at the ice cream shop Napoleon was given the bill, and in an outrageous French accent said "Pay?!"
That's going to be the reaction of many leftists when suddenly the bill for all this spending comes due.
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DaveinMD Sat, May 30, 2009 4:37:33am |
I only have one thing to say about "moderates, centrists, and RINOs" being the future of the GOP. John McCain. How'd that work out for us? About as well as I expected. It's a blind spot, akin to the one Liberals have about Socialism. "It hasn't ever worked, it always makes things worse, let's give it one more chance!" Centrist my aching butt! Stand up! Stand up for your principles! It's not just conservatism, it's COMMON SENSE! Which, by the way, is an oxymoron. The Republican "brand" may be unpopular, but the IDEAS are still what counts, and are the only thing that will save the GOP and possibly the nation. Quit calling it "conservatism" and call it what it is. Sound policy that WORKS. Keep any idea that WORKS, and dump the crap that doesn't, and the people who want to trash the party and the nation for the sake of centrism.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 4:37:45am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 4:37:51am |
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:38:19am |
re: #370 DaveinMD
I don't know. Moderates might like common sense, so that's probably a bad idea. Better run a flaming social republican who wants to spend a lot of money instead of a conservative.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 4:39:46am |
re: #349 Sharmuta
Don't worry about the length- I'm glad you answered me. I always think it's interesting to find out what brought folks here to LGF.
I really don't have much to add to your comments about LGF. Although I'm wondering about the points you say you disagree with Charles on. Did you mean you agree and mistyped?
No, i mean there are certainly many points where I'm going to have opinions that run counter to the LGF community as a whole.
I can't say anything really specific overall about where I disagree with Charles as Charles doesn't line up neatly in an ideological box, I don't myself feel like I know all his positions on everything by any means, and i don't want to mischaracterize one of his views by accident.
One really small example of disagreement is the recent Krauthammer piece on torture. I'm agreed with Charles that waterboarding is torture and we should just call it that and move on ....I'm really not sure that it's ever permissible though, even in the "ticking time bomb" scenario. That's something I wrestle with, whereas Charles (as I understand him) supports its use there. As does Krauthammer. One of my problems is that I'm not convinced it would be effective in that situation. On the other hand, this is an issue I continue to grapple with, especially given that I lost someone on 9/11. It's such a hard issue. I'm very conflicted.
How did you find LGF? I also think it's so interesting to find these things out.
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The Other Les Sat, May 30, 2009 4:40:20am |
re: #371 littleoldlady
YOU haven't seen it?
I had to look it up! ;-)
I've pretty much given up watching television.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:40:32am |
re: #374 iceweasel
So you agree with him on creationism and vlaams belang?
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Geepers Sat, May 30, 2009 4:42:08am |
littleoldlady (#351),
Hot water heaters are pretty cheap and easy to replace as they only have a limited life span. Get one that's exactly the same as the old one and swapping them out is realativly simple as they are hooked up with the knowledge that they will have to be repalced.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:43:07am |
re: #375 The Other Les
I've pretty much given up watching television.
There's a reason it's called the idiot box.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 4:45:08am |
re: #359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey FBV! good to see you. How are you, cutie?
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littleoldlady Sat, May 30, 2009 4:46:45am |
re: #377 Geepers
I can't even find the gallonage on this thing! But I did find the year installed: 1995.
/veh iz mir!
I really need to pay closer attention to stuff. :-( I'd better get going...a small mess, sure to be a big mess soon, needs to be cleaned up.
Thanks, Geeps!
Good day, ALL!™
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 4:47:45am |
re: #380 iceweasel
I'm thuper! Thankth for athking!
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 4:52:10am |
re: #376 Sharmuta
So you agree with him on creationism and vlaams belang?
Oh hell yes! I'm an atheist myself and a longtime foe of ID. I thought it was incredibly cool that he's been such a strong opponent of ID and creationism, especially in the face of all the flack he's taken.
And certainly about VB! Those people are crazy fascists and racists, and loads of the crazy wing of the rightwing blogosphere have happily gone along with them--like the disgusting Pam Geller, and the supremely vile Gates of Vienna--and Charles immediately busted them for it, and took (still takes) TONS of abuse for it, and certainly knew he'd lose readers and blogging allies...he still did it.
Major kudos for all of that.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 4:55:32am |
re: #382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yay! South Park references!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 4:56:21am |
re: #384 iceweasel
Earlier Bill and Ted by Sharmuta. I love it here!
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 4:56:33am |
re: #383 iceweasel
Charles has integrity. It's a rare commodity, and it's the reason I've stuck around.
How did I find LGF? It was the Dan Rather memo.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 4:58:39am |
re: #387 Sharmuta
That was a very clever pick-up...was kind of a throw away line, and you made it important.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 4:59:21am |
re: #386 Sharmuta
me too... Tammy Bruce interviewed Charles on her old radio show on Sirius.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 4:59:51am |
I could just scream. According to them, The Kid and his friend stayed up all night long playing on the PS3. The Kid said they would but, Ben just rolled his eyes at me and shook his head. Well, they woke me up around 4:00, and then about an hour ago.
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, May 30, 2009 5:00:34am |
I left another comment for "dieyoubastards" - my pet youtube nazi troofer :
You deleted my comments. Nevermind - they were posted elsewhere on the internet along with yours for the amusement of the general public. You have done well my nazi-phile fucktard minion.
And don't forget - resistance is not only useless, but impossible. If we wanted to we could squash you like a bug. The fact that you are still here means you are part of our plan, and performing within acceptable parameters.
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, May 30, 2009 5:01:37am |
re: #391 Jimmah
Damn I forgot to add "Shalom". I'll go fix that at once.
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SixDegrees Sat, May 30, 2009 5:02:54am |
re: #370 DaveinMD
John McCain. How'd that work out for us?
Pretty well, considering that Bush's dismal approval ratings certainly dragged down any Republican candidate, while Obama's popularity soared. Not to mention McCain's poor campaigning, and being outspent 7 to 1. Despite all that, however, he managed to pull 46% of the popular vote to Obama's 53%; a shift of only 4% would have put McCain in the Oval Office.
Considering the otherwise poisonous climate as far as Republicans of any stripe were concerned, that's an impressive showing.
Get rid of the loud, shrill theocrats in the party's extreme fringe who rightly terrify the much larger proportion of moderate independents (and Republicans) into voting Democrat rather than sacrifice their personal liberty to the rabidly religious right, get back to a single, strong message of fiscal conservatism, and the GOP could easily start winning elections again.
Or, they can choose to keep promoting the teaching of Baptist fundamentalism in public school science classes; bashing gays; inserting government control over personal medical decisions ranging from abortion to guardianship; and generally promoting an intrusive government that seeks to control all aspects of personal behavior using the power of the state. And get used to losing.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 5:03:11am |
re: #390 MandyManners
When I was a kid, we stayed up all night because we didn't have a PS3. And we liked it!
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 5:06:38am |
re: #390 MandyManners
I could just scream. According to them, The Kid and his friend stayed up all night long playing on the PS3. The Kid said they would but, Ben just rolled his eyes at me and shook his head. Well, they woke me up around 4:00, and then about an hour ago.
Give me their PlayStation Network usernames and what games they play, I could administer some remote pwnage discipline for you. c:
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freetoken Sat, May 30, 2009 5:07:37am |
re: #374 iceweasel
No, i mean there are certainly many points where I'm going to have opinions that run counter to the LGF community as a whole.
I can't say anything really specific overall about where I disagree with Charles as Charles doesn't line up neatly in an ideological box, I don't myself feel like I know all his positions on everything by any means, and i don't want to mischaracterize one of his views by accident.
I feel comfortable in proclaiming that we are a rather motley crew here... and not easily pidgeon-holed.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:07:47am |
re: #394 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
When I was a kid, we stayed up all night because we didn't have a PS3. And we liked it!
I bet all you had was Pac-Man.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:08:08am |
re: #395 laZardo
Give me their PlayStation Network usernames and what games they play, I could administer some remote
pwnagediscipline for you. c:
He's not on-line with it.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 5:09:13am |
re: #386 Sharmuta
Charles has integrity. It's a rare commodity, and it's the reason I've stuck around.
How did I find LGF? It was the Dan Rather memo.
Very cool. If I'd been spending anytime online then, I'd have checked LGF out for sure. I remember LGF and Charles being mentioned then in the MSM.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 5:09:52am |
re: #393 SixDegrees
I think it might be too late for the GOP on that part. The mental image of a "conservative" for my generation is what some lizards here would call a "so-con."
After what happened with the PATRIOT Act though, rolling back government and fiscal responsibility has seeped through but that would be counted as libertarianism (again, lowercase 'l') on the political spectrum.
/using the Nolan spectrum here...
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freetoken Sat, May 30, 2009 5:09:58am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 5:11:14am |
re: #396 freetoken
I feel comfortable in proclaiming that we are a rather motley crew here... and not easily pidgeon-holed.
I'd agree that attempts to claim that the LGF community marches in lockstep are utterly doomed to failure.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 5:15:40am |
re: #400 iceweasel
I was lucky and got in fairly easily at that time. I spent a lot of my time at LGF back then doing nothing of significance. I wasted a lot of time here. Then someone thought it would be really fun to manipulate me. I took time off at that point. It was then I realized that what Charles does here at LGF is important, and I decided I didn't want to be the sort of commenter that I had been, so I switched my name along with my new perspective. My registration got caught in a spam filter, however, so I had to ask Charles for help. I told him who I was and what I was doing, and he reset my registration. (I'm the only Lizard with February 13, 2007 as a registration date.) But sadly, this pissed off some of my former friends. They didn't like me taking my time here seriously. It was no big loss though, as many of them are now banned and posting at stalker blogs where they think it's really cute to out my previous LGF life. I don't care- I'm proud that I took a stand for something I thought was important. It's more than they ever did.
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Cato the Elder Sat, May 30, 2009 5:16:20am |
Anybody else relish the archaic use of "to fear" in the Shakespeare quote? Here it means "to make the birds of prey afraid" - a complete reversal of today's usage.
Mmm. English.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, May 30, 2009 5:17:30am |
For quite a while I thought the rumors of the GOP's death were greatly exaggerated. I figured they were just majorly freaked out about having their ass handed to them nationwide in 2008. Now, though, I am really starting to believe that the GOP is, in fact, eating itself. I find it strangely fascinating to watch. It seems we live in interesting times.
Barry Goldwater was a bit before my time, but from what I've read of him and his ideas, it seems that he was right on the money about a great many things. It also seems that he would have been driven out of the Republican party on a RINO rail if he were alive today.
I am not a Republican nor a Democrat. I don't really care for the Libertarian Party because they are full of crazy anarcho-capitalists in the best case and REALLY crazy conspiracy theorist kooks in the worst case. There doesn't seem to even be an organized party that represents my views.
Believe it or not, there are people under 40 who would really like to be able to vote for candidates who are fiscally conservative and who advocate strong and non-stupid foreign policy, but who are also not hell-bent on making fundamentalist social conservatism their main motivation in life.
When I was a wee tyke, the US was still in the midst of the Cold War, and America was portrayed as THE one-stop shop for all your rockin-awesome science and industry needs. NASA was cool. Carl Sagan was a celebrity. When there was talk of the state of medical technology, it almost always ended with an optimistic "just think what it will be like 10 years from now!" In those days, "elite" was something to aspire to, not to revile.
These days, I don't relate to the Democratic party at all, but the only other viable alternative presents me with JOE THE FRICKIN PLUMBER -- mediocrity by definition -- as though that's supposed to get me enthusiastic. And sadly, I look around and see all too many people happily cheering on this anti-intellectualism. There is unabashed hostility to science itself. I'm presented with Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal and told that these are the Luke Skywalker New Hope. This is the BEST WE CAN COME UP WITH. It's embarrassing on an epic scale. And as if that weren't exciting enough, when these same idiots notice that I'm feeling increasingly alienated from the only party that I kinda-sorta maybe 40% agree with, instead of welcoming my 40% support, they call me Part Of The Problem. The so-called Republican "Base" is acting like (an extremely lazy version of) Mao's Red Brigades. I think that whirring sound I hear is Jefferson and Madison doing high RPMs in their graves.
I know, I know. RINO, godless liberal, atheist stealth muslim and so forth. Guilty as charged.
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 5:18:24am |
re: #399 MandyManners
Egads. They're outside shooting hoops.
After they shoot the hoops, how do you usually prepare them for dinner?
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 5:18:56am |
And I'm only mentioning all of this because some people around here now think it's really cute to repeat the stalker blog talking points about me. I think it's really great that some current Lizards are thrilling the stalkers with this childish ploy. I don't give a shit what stalkers and other assholes think of me.
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 5:21:34am |
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:21:43am |
re: #409 Nevergiveup
After they shoot the hoops, how do you usually prepare them for dinner?
Stir-fry with ripe sweet peppers.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:22:44am |
re: #410 Sharmuta
And I'm only mentioning all of this because some people around here now think it's really cute to repeat the stalker blog talking points about me. I think it's really great that some current Lizards are thrilling the stalkers with this childish ploy. I don't give a shit what stalkers and other assholes think of me.
Huh? Who? Where? Here?
| 415 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:27:01am |
Shit. There are five doors into this house and they just tried to come into the one that is not unlocked and it got our dog going off like a klaxon. I'm gonna' get down to the kitchen in a while to fix them pancakes, sausage, toast and mellon balls, then give them some time to play, and then I'm taking Ben home. Oh, wait. I'm not gonna' serve melon balls. I'm just gonna' slice the melon up. Serves 'em right, the little shits.
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 5:28:05am |
re: #407 negativ
This idea of essentially legislating religion has always been a bad idea. Money related issues and immigration and a couple of other things are the only things that really have potential to affect the conservative family. Unfortunately, though they can adapt to the idea of collateral civilian casualties in war, they can not, apparently, adapt to confining themselves to persuasion when it comes to abortion. What they have mistakenly regarded as a religious compromise is going to deprive them of everything else they want.
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 5:29:42am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 5:29:52am |
re: #399 MandyManners
There'll be a crash to end all crashes!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 5:32:06am |
Dang busy day today. Y'all thump'em down today! Okay?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 5:32:36am |
re: #405 Sharmuta
Wow, I had absolutely no idea of that backstory. Thank you so much for sharing that with me. I'm really sorry that happened to you. That's appalling.
For what it's worth, you are one of the major reasons I came to like LGF and want to join it. I consistently found you (and still find you) to be incredibly thoughtful and intelligent and to have a deep grasp of issues--including many issues where I am aware my own understanding is pretty shallow.
(o/t-- just realised you're right--i spoke poorly here: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
my construction made it sound like I was citing Charles' positions on ID, VB, et al as examples of things I DISGREED with--on the contrary, those are the very issues where Charles' stance convinced me of his intellectual honesty, and on which I could not possibly agree with him more.)
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 5:33:16am |
re: #407 negativ
Oh, I don't think Joe the plumber represented mediocrity. I think that was all about taxation of small business. For all we know he is a very good plumber.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 30, 2009 5:34:00am |
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:35:32am |
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:36:18am |
re: #419 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There'll be a crash to end all crashes!
The Kid has a make-up baseball game today. If I have to tie him down, I will do so in order for him to get some sleep.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 5:37:17am |
re: #421 iceweasel
Really? That means so much to me for you to say that. I never before posted about any of that, btw. So for you to say I was a factor just reinforces to me that I made the right decision two years ago. Thank you so much. I'm crying- it really means a lot to me.
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 5:39:22am |
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:41:11am |
re: #428 Sharmuta
You-know-who on the stalker blog called out me, you and a few other Lizards. I've not mentioned him here in ages nor have I given him much thought but, I'm at the top of his list. WTF is his problem?!
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 5:42:47am |
re: #416 MandyManners
I'M CRANKY.
And that's why I keep coming back. Never mind all of Shar's hifalutin' ideas. I'm here for the Urinated Cranky Flakes.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 5:44:05am |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, May 30, 2009 5:44:41am |
re: #411 MandyManners
What's wrong with being a plumber?
There's nothing WRONG with it, but it's nothing to aspire to.
Take your pick:
"AMERICA: We Figured Out How To Cure Cancer"
vs.
"AMERICA: We Can Unclog Your Toilet"
Aim High?
Be All You Can Be?
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:46:01am |
re: #431 haakondahl
And that's why I keep coming back. Never mind all of Shar's hifalutin' ideas. I'm here for the Urinated Cranky Flakes.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 5:46:02am |
re: #434 negativ
Sometimes a backed-up digestive system and the availability of a proper excretion containment device can mean the difference between seizing and missing important opportunities. q;
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 5:46:05am |
re: #427 Sharmuta
Really? That means so much to me for you to say that. I never before posted about any of that, btw. So for you to say I was a factor just reinforces to me that I made the right decision two years ago. Thank you so much. I'm crying- it really means a lot to me.
God, I had no idea about any of what happened to you, or that you didn't post about it ever.....I'm so sorry that happened to you, and totally honoured that you shared that with me.
and yeah, this is a hundred percent true: You are one of the main reasons I regged. i find you really inspiring, really thoughtful, really intelligent, and I value you above everything because even when, perhaps especially when, I disagree with you, you ALWAYS make me think.
i feel very goofy for saying all this. I kinda have a girl-crush on you, intellectually speaking. :)
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 5:46:13am |
re: #432 Sharmuta
They are not well people, Mandy.
Tsk, tsk. Your punctuation is dreadful. Let me help you with that:
They are not, well, people, Mandy.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:46:32am |
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:47:29am |
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 5:48:29am |
re: #437 iceweasel
I feel very goofy for saying all this. I kinda have a girl-crush on you, intellectually speaking. :)
I, for one, support this sort of intellectualism.
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 5:48:40am |
re: #434 negativ
Well, I have yet to find a good plumber, but what they aspire to is to start a small to medium-sized business and employ several people. You can become a millionaire in the plumbing business. We all have different assets and opportunity. I don't think there is any use to being perceived as dissing the hand someone is playing if it is honest. But I know what you meant.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 5:49:16am |
re: #434 negativ
There's nothing WRONG with it, but it's nothing to aspire to.
Take your pick:
"AMERICA: We Figured Out How To Cure Cancer"
vs.
"AMERICA: We Can Unclog Your Toilet"Aim High?
Be All You Can Be?
The Dems have found a cure for cancer?
The Dems didn't run on a pro-science plank. They ran on amorphous feelings of hope and change.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, May 30, 2009 5:55:33am |
re: #443 MandyManners
The Dems have found a cure for cancer?
The Dems didn't run on a pro-science plank. They ran on amorphous feelings of hope and change.
Neither did the Leprechaun Nationalist Reformation party. I don't recall championing Dems, either.
On the other hand, I have yet to find any number of Dems insisting that science is a specifically anti-Christian conspiracy.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 5:55:47am |
re: #445 Sharmuta
Aw, stop that now!
"There's no crying in baseball!"
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 5:57:01am |
Good morning y'all - from a moderate (63 degrees, going up to 85 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone doing this morning?
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 5:57:45am |
re: #386 Sharmuta
Charles has integrity. It's a rare commodity, and it's the reason I've stuck around.
How did I find LGF? It was the Dan Rather memo.
Same here. PowerlineBlog was my gateway to this place. Been here ever since. On and off.
A year or so after the Throbbing Memo, some folks here were lamenting that LGF wasn't what it used to be, and complaining about those of us who had changed it (by mere presence, I suppose). Wankers. I'm proud to be one of the Throbbites.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 5:58:47am |
re: #441 haakondahl
I, for one, support this sort of intellectualism.
HA! I bet you do. *cue bad 70's porn music*
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 5:59:09am |
re: #449 realwest
A little more calmed down from last night, i.e. closer to "normal."
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 5:59:28am |
re: #448 iceweasel
It's just- I had a goal of being relevant, and when a person tells me I've had an impact, it really means something to me. I can't thank you enough.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 5:59:59am |
re: #450 haakondahl
A year or so after the Throbbing Memo, some folks here were lamenting that LGF wasn't what it used to be, and complaining about those of us who had changed it (by mere presence, I suppose). Wankers. I'm proud to be one of the Throbbites.
It's not Hump Day, but wtfever. C:
/my gateway to LGF was Screw Loose Change, of all places
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:01:01am |
re: #449 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a moderate (63 degrees, going up to 85 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone doing this morning?
Howdy! Doing just fine. Didn't realize you were in Charlotte.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 6:01:15am |
re: #450 haakondahl
I found it through Powerline too! The link in the blogroll said "green" (which is my favorite color) so I had to look, and I've been hooked ever since.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:01:37am |
re: #452 laZardo
Well you know, getting closer to normal is a pretty good thing. I wasn't on last night - what happened, some more bannings? New sock puppets, trolls?
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:03:32am |
re: #455 legalpad
Morning back atcha! Yep,well suburb of Charlotte, anyway. That's why I give the Charlotte weather every day - when I lived in Manhattan a century or so ago, I used to give the NYC weather report too.
Where are you located?
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:05:38am |
re: #458 realwest
Morning back atcha! Yep,well suburb of Charlotte, anyway. That's why I give the Charlotte weather every day - when I lived in Manhattan a century or so ago, I used to give the NYC weather report too.
Where are you located?
Austin, Texas. One of my sons frequents Fort Bragg, and we have visited him there on occasion.
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:06:53am |
re: #441 haakondahl
I, for one, support this sort of intellectualism.
lol! I just caught on to this.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:08:22am |
Whoa hey laZardo - I know what you mean - Avanti......Avanti had the highest rated comment last night!
Couse, as usual, zombie had the most number of comments in the top ten, but Avanti?!
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, May 30, 2009 6:09:04am |
re: #386 Sharmuta
Charles has integrity. It's a rare commodity, and it's the reason I've stuck around.
How did I find LGF? It was the Dan Rather memo.
I found it via a link someone posted on the old ISIS forum(Institute for the Secularization of Islamic Society).
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 6:09:13am |
Last update - 13:03 30/05/2009
Germany joins calls for Israel to end settlement construction
By DPA
Tags: Settlements, Israel News
German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier has demanded that Israel put an end to all settlement building in the Palestinian territories, in a newspaper interview published Saturday.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
Who do these guys think they are? James Baker?
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:09:25am |
re: #459 legalpad
Uh, one of your son's "frequents" Ft. Bragg - does he perchance sometimes wear a forest green colored beret?!
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:10:57am |
re: #464 realwest
Uh, one of your son's "frequents" Ft. Bragg - does he perchance sometimes wear a forest green colored beret?!
Exactly. He's in Poland right now, but based in Stuttgart.
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 30, 2009 6:11:12am |
re: #461 realwest
Whoa hey laZardo - I know what you mean - Avanti......Avanti had the highest rated comment last night!
Couse, as usual, zombie had the most number of comments in the top ten, but Avanti?!
Good Morning Friend..
Re: Avanti
It's the end of the world...and you know it
But i feel fine
LOL
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 6:11:48am |
Haak- I managed to get another Lizard to pick up A Conflict of Visions. Have you had time to start reading it yet?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 6:12:33am |
re: #453 Sharmuta
It's just- I had a goal of being relevant, and when a person tells me I've had an impact, it really means something to me. I can't thank you enough.
I can't tell you enough how relevant you were. Seriously now: I am located squarely within the demographic that is stereotyped as hyperliberal. i'm pretty much the archetype of a crazy liberal that the current GOP caricatures: I'm a liberal heteroflexible female urban academic, latte-drinkin', Iraq-war protesting, a card carrying member of the ACLU. I am a liberal progressive who voted for Obama (and I campaigned for him). I hang out on progressive and liberal blogs.
All of that is still true, but now I'm regg'd on LGF and I constantly argue that the GOP needs to return to real conservative roots.
anyway, enough about me. the real point here is about you-- you've been tremendously influential in my own personal development and I'm sure lots of others too. You are very, very relevant.
I bet you're impacting a lot of people you don't even know about. If I could have emailed you personally years ago without being regged, I would have done so to thank you for the ways you've inspired me and been relevant to me.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:13:15am |
re: #465 legalpad Ah, well it was the use of the words "frequents" and Ft. Bragg that were the giveaways!
Hey next time you speak to him, kindly tell him we thank him for his service to our nation,would you please?
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:14:24am |
re: #466 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops! ROFL! "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine!" - what song, who sung it?!
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 6:16:09am |
re: #456 Sharmuta
I found it through Powerline too! The link in the blogroll said "green" (which is my favorite color) so I had to look, and I've been hooked ever since.
Well, no wonder you're so darned thoughtful. That place went through some toough times, as far as I can tell, which more or less corresponded with their struggles with lunatic commenters. I'm glad they shut down the forum, and are going back to moderated comments.
Meanwhile, I have now mislaid my copy of Conflict of Visions, unopened, as I left it in the head and it is now somewhere on the FOB. Shouldn't be too hard to find. Not many people here can read would find that sort of book interesting.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:16:45am |
re: #469 laZardo
It's official, LGF is now bipartisan! q;
Well y'all speak for yourownself there hoss! LOL!
Anyway, for some reason there seems to be .....sugar all over my monitor,bbiam - gotta go get some Windex or something!
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Mithrax Sat, May 30, 2009 6:16:51am |
re: #471 realwest
Hi ya Hoops! ROFL! "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine!" - what song, who sung it?!
end of the World, - REM
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:17:07am |
re: #467 Sharmuta
Haak- I managed to get another Lizard to pick up A Conflict of Visions. Have you had time to start reading it yet?
Wow. I was not aware of this book. I have pondering this basic idea but I see Thomas Sowell has written a book on it. I'll probably get it today.
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JacksonTn Sat, May 30, 2009 6:17:13am |
re: #471 realwest
Hi ya Hoops! ROFL! "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine!" - what song, who sung it?!
Morning Lizards ...
real ... I think REM ...
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A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 30, 2009 6:17:54am |
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 6:17:58am |
re: #472 haakondahl
I was never a commenter at Powerline. I looked it up because I saw one of the guys on Fox news, and that landed me here. So- it's all Britt Hume's fault.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 6:18:14am |
re: #468 iceweasel
All of that is still true, but now I'm regg'd on LGF and I constantly argue that the GOP needs to return to real conservative roots.
i meant to add-- "Why? In large part because of you. "
So I can tell you straight up, you're very relevant and you have an impact. You impacted me.
thanks for that. believe me, you are relevant.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 6:18:49am |
re: #475 legalpad
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
I hope you like it. It's completely changed how I view politics now.
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:19:08am |
re: #470 realwest
Ah, well it was the use of the words "frequents" and Ft. Bragg that were the giveaways!
Hey next time you speak to him, kindly tell him we thank him for his service to our nation,would you please?
I certainly will. He's having the time of his life, though. He's in with a great team and loving every minute of it.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 6:20:48am |
re: #479 iceweasel
Thank you. I've had confidence in my decision, but it's always nice to have validation from another source.
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:21:15am |
re: #481 Sharmuta
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
I hope you like it. It's completely changed how I view politics now.
Completely changed? I definitely must get that! I've read one of his books on economic and was impressed with his thinking. This has got to be great!
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:21:35am |
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 6:22:05am |
re: #472 haakondahl
And no- I don't suppose many would find Conflict interesting. LOL
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 6:23:44am |
re: #484 legalpad
Completely changed? I definitely must get that! I've read one of his books on economic and was impressed with his thinking. This has got to be great!
Yes- I no longer see the left-right dichotomy, but rather the dichotomy of the two visions Dr Sowell presents.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:24:14am |
re: #482 legalpad
Thanks. And they are all great teams!
I had the distinct pleasure of being TDY'd to the 8th SFG in Panama about oh.........40 years ago - I am NOT SF qualified, they just need a few extra grunts to help out!
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JacksonTn Sat, May 30, 2009 6:26:23am |
re: #488 realwest
Thanks. And they are all great teams!
I had the distinct pleasure of being TDY'd to the 8th SFG in Panama about oh.........40 years ago - I am NOT SF qualified, they just need a few extra grunts to help out!
re: #485 realwest
And
re: #476 JacksonTn
Are y'all sure about that? I don't remember listening to REM very much - what other "hit songs" did they have?
(Boy, if y'all haven't cleaned your monitor off inyears,monthsa week or so, it's amazing how much brighter it is when you do!).
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:26:37am |
re: #488 realwest
And, uh, TDY'd to the 5th SFG, through something called 5th SAG (Special Augementation Group) in Vietnam.
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 6:28:00am |
Re the Sotomayor pick: This cheers me up somewhat. Sorry I can't link it, it's from a Politico email yesterday (but you could google if you wish)... Anytime Rachel Madow is disappointed, I am probably not going to be.
--MSNBC's Rachel Maddow: 'The 'Sotomayor is a moderate' mantra was repeated over and over and over again on TV, on nomination day one today by White House officials. [Anita Dunn and Valerie Jarrett clips] She was supported by Jesse Helms and Rick Santorum. She's a conservative's dream. Despite a huge Democratic majority in the Senate and even bigger Democratic majority in the House, the Democratic president who won in a landslide is selling his Supreme Court pick by saying that she's conservative. ... The questions now are: Whether Sonia Sotomayor is as conservative, as moderate as the White House says she is, and how are D.C. politics so divorced from the rest of America, so divorced from the results of the last two elections that the prospect of making the court less conservative, making the court more balanced is out of the question.'
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:28:24am |
re: #487 Sharmuta
Yes- I no longer see the left-right dichotomy, but rather the dichotomy of the two visions Dr Sowell presents.
That's quite encouraging. Many of my views are quite left but the ones that are right are seriously right. I have often thought about the rigidity of the ideological camps. A few people I have met lately would probably enjoy this book. They just got their Master's degree so they ought to be as smart enough to perceive it as you have.
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 6:28:36am |
re: #468 iceweasel
I am a liberal progressive who voted for Obama (and I campaigned for him). I hang out on progressive and liberal blogs.
All of that is still true, but now I'm regg'd on LGF ...
We've "spoken" a little before, and I already had a good impression of you. Quick question--where do I go to speak to intelligent liberals? I know they are out there, but I don't know where to find them.
For some gratuitous snark, google "puny conservative eyes". There are some points I couold re-word, but it will have to wait.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 6:29:25am |
re: #485 realwest
Shiny Happy People, The One I Love and Imitation of Life are the ones I can remember...
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 30, 2009 6:33:03am |
re: #491 tradewind
how are D.C. politics so divorced from the rest of America, so divorced from the results of the last two elections that the prospect of making the court less conservative, making the court more balanced is out of the question.'
GAHH ,, where to start
She misses the FACT that the court couldn't be MORE balanced as it is right now. Most "hot button" issues before it are decided 5-4. With 9 judges, unless someone cuts one in half, you can't get MORE "balanced" than that
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Throbert McGee Sat, May 30, 2009 6:33:25am |
I found LGF thanks to "Weekend Update" on Saturday Night Live!
Seriously, it was a segment making fun of the Frawnch, and by way of enumerating the many and varied national embarrassments of France, Tina Fey mentioned the ongoing problem of anti-Semitic violence directed at French Jews. Well, at the time -- I think this was late 2002, or maybe early 2003 -- I hadn't heard much about this issue, so I went Googling for more info, and an LGF thread came up among the hits.
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 6:33:34am |
re: #493 haakondahl
We've "spoken" a little before, and I already had a good impression of you. Quick question--where do I go to speak to intelligent liberals? I know they are out there, but I don't know where to find them.
For some gratuitous snark, google "puny conservative eyes". There are some points I couold re-word, but it will have to wait.
Actually, I should re-phrase that. What I'm looking for is a place where ideas are discussed such as LGF, but with the proportions inverted. Many of the screaming, shrieking folks on both sides are quite intelligent--they just make themselves useless because they *sound* like morons.
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:33:49am |
re: #488 realwest
And they are all great teams!
They are, but they have a little friendly competition. I'm rather happy that he has so many extremely experienced people on his team. He's the youngest there. Makes me feel better about his missions.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 6:33:52am |
re: #492 legalpad
Check out the book- I don't think you'll be disappointed. I'll be honest, though, that it's a thinking book. At times, I spent days pondering just a couple paragraphs. I have never dog eared and marked up a book quite so much as this one- and I'm still not even finished with it! (I took a time-out this last week to read the Ida fossil book.) It's been slow reading, but not because of anything other than the content will make you think and think a lot. LGFer "Syrah" and I have been having discussions on the book in spinoff threads for a number of weeks now, and it's been great to have a friend reading it with me so we could share thoughts and ideas. If enough Lizards start reading the book, we might have to continue with our book chats! :)
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:33:58am |
It looks like locusts swept through the kitchen: 10 pancakes, eight sausage patties and half a watermelon. Their bellies are full and now they're talking about sleeping.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 6:34:09am |
I think the very early REM albums, before they broke through, are really great:
Chronic Town
life's rich pageant
murmur
--all are classic.
I'll throw in a vote for Dead Letter Office (or Eponymous) only because I like the covers of the Velvet Underground there. Femme Fatale, Pale Blue Eyes, Waiting for the Man.
Document, the break-out album, isn't bad either.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 6:34:49am |
re: #494 laZardo
Shiny Happy People, The One I Love and Imitation of Life are the ones I can remember...
Losing My Religion.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:35:05am |
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 6:35:36am |
re: #502 iceweasel
I think the very early REM albums, before they broke through, are really great:
Chronic Town
life's rich pageant
murmur
--all are classic.I'll throw in a vote for Dead Letter Office (or Eponymous) only because I like the covers of the Velvet Underground there. Femme Fatale, Pale Blue Eyes, Waiting for the Man.
Document, the break-out album, isn't bad either.
Favorite REM song: (Don't go back to) Rockville
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Mithrax Sat, May 30, 2009 6:36:21am |
re: #501 MandyManners
It looks like locusts swept through the kitchen: 10 pancakes, eight sausage patties and half a watermelon. Their bellies are full and now they're talking about sleeping.
Dear me.
so what's for lunch? :)
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 30, 2009 6:37:27am |
WAY OFF TOPIC (and sorry for the repeat for those that were here early this a.m.)
If any of you want to feel really really good about yourselves, do what I did yesterday (and have done in the past) Go volunteer at your states Special Olympics. The pure pride and joy of the athletes leaves me glowing for months every year after I do it!
At the risk of sounding preachy,, please Please PLEASE check into volunteering at your states Special Olympics. It's a cause where there are NO losers (you especially)
Heading out there soon. I'll be an official at the Aquatics events most of tody!
(hmmm,,,, where did I put my water wings!))
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:37:38am |
re: #500 Sharmuta
I'll get it this afternoon. I think Dr. Sowell may be one of the most relevant thinkers of our time.
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 6:38:37am |
re: #504 MandyManners
I guess she means back when she was nominated to District Circuit.
Madow is ticked because Sotomayor has no record of pro-gay-marriage opinions.
IMO, she has no record of much at all, because she has always known she'd be facing Senate confirmation hearings on a SCOTUS level, and has been deliberately vague.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 30, 2009 6:39:10am |
re: #504 MandyManners
She was supported by Jesse Helms and Rick Santorum.
What in the world?!
They voted to confirm her when Bush 1 nominated her to the appeals court
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 6:39:36am |
re: #507 sattv4u2
WAY OFF TOPIC (and sorry for the repeat for those that were here early this a.m.)
If any of you want to feel really really good about yourselves, do what I did yesterday (and have done in the past) Go volunteer at your states Special Olympics. The pure pride and joy of the athletes leaves me glowing for months every year after I do it!
At the risk of sounding preachy,, please Please PLEASE check into volunteering at your states Special Olympics. It's a cause where there are NO losers (you especially)
Heading out there soon. I'll be an official at the Aquatics events most of tody!(hmmm,,,, where did I put my water wings!))
I can double that recommendation. Have done it in the past, on a regular basis, honest disclosure, I haven't done it in about 5 years do to changes in my whole life, but, anyway, do it if you have the time. Try it once.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 30, 2009 6:39:42am |
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:39:44am |
I found LGF when a friend on a divorce site sent me here. The place had a lot of ultra-liberals and I was struggling with the need to find a place where conservative politics were discussed intelligently. I keep her in my prayers.
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 6:39:51am |
re: #507 sattv4u2
This is an open thread, you can't veer off topic.
My daughter helped coach a SO swim team and it was one of the best summers of her high school life.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:40:31am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 6:40:52am |
re: #509 tradewind
I guess she means back when she was nominated to District Circuit.
Madow is ticked because Sotomayor has no record of pro-gay-marriage opinions.
IMO, she has no record of much at all, because she has always known she'd be facing Senate confirmation hearings on a SCOTUS level, and has been deliberately vague.
Maybe, or she was saving her remarks for her seminal speech, which contains enough questionable material to cover a lifetime.
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Mithrax Sat, May 30, 2009 6:41:01am |
re: #515 MandyManners
A side of a cow.
Woohoo! Now that's good eatin!
I think I have leftover stale pizza around here somewhere....
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 6:41:17am |
re: #510 sattv4u2
They voted to confirm her when Bush 1 nominated her to the appeals court
That's not support. That was proforma Senate courtesy from One set of Senators to the NY Senators.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:41:23am |
re: #509 tradewind
I guess she means back when she was nominated to District Circuit.
Madow is ticked because Sotomayor has no record of pro-gay-marriage opinions.
IMO, she has no record of much at all, because she has always known she'd be facing Senate confirmation hearings on a SCOTUS level, and has been deliberately vague.
Did she have a crystal ball?
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 30, 2009 6:41:25am |
re: #511 Walter L. Newton
I can double that recommendation. Have done it in the past, on a regular basis, honest disclosure, I haven't done it in about 5 years do to changes in my whole life, but, anyway, do it if you have the time. Try it once.
I love doing it. I co-opted my 14 y/o son into comming with me yesterday. Now he's hooked. I was only going to go for about 3-4 hours today but when we were there yesterday he signed up for the entire day reffing soccer matches
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:41:43am |
re: #501 MandyManners
It looks like locusts swept through the kitchen: 10 pancakes, eight sausage patties and half a watermelon. Their bellies are full and now they're talking about sleeping.
I used to call one of my sons and his friends The Langoliers. We stack a ton of food here because we had seven children, but they would eat almost all of it.
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 6:41:49am |
re: #491 tradewind
Re the Sotomayor pick: This cheers me up somewhat. Sorry I can't link it, it's from a Politico email yesterday (but you could google if you wish)... Anytime Rachel Madow is disappointed, I am probably not going to be.
Careful with that. To Maddow, President Clinton was insufferably conservative.
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 6:41:52am |
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:42:13am |
re: #510 sattv4u2
They voted to confirm her when Bush 1 nominated her to the appeals court
So her record at the district court level was not one of a flaming liberal?
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 30, 2009 6:42:43am |
re: #519 Nevergiveup
That's not support. That was proforma Senate courtesy from One set of Senators to the NY Senators.
In Maddows mind, it's unconditional love and support
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 6:42:48am |
re: #520 MandyManners
I feel certain that she felt certain. With all those predictions that are coming out of the woodwork now, she had to have had a long heads up.
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 6:43:12am |
re: #523 haakondahl
Bubba is looking pretty conservative to me these days.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:43:20am |
re: #518 Mithrax
Woohoo! Now that's good eatin!
I think I have leftover stale pizza around here somewhere....
I'd rather have that.
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 6:43:25am |
re: #526 sattv4u2
In Maddows mind, it's unconditional love and support
Well why let facts get in the way of a nice fable?
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:44:20am |
re: #522 legalpad
I used to call one of my sons and his friends The Langoliers. We stack a ton of food here because we had seven children, but they would eat almost all of it.
That movie scares the snot out of me.
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Mithrax Sat, May 30, 2009 6:44:32am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 30, 2009 6:44:40am |
re: #525 MandyManners
So her record at the district court level was not one of a flaming liberal?
Non that I could find. Her most "damning" attribute is her support for affirmative action type of decisons imho. If justice is supposed to be blind, there shouldn;'t be any weight given the color of ones skin nor their ethnicity
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 6:44:56am |
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 6:45:15am |
RoP seething again in Athens....
Muslims in fresh Athens demo over alleged Koran insult
"We want this officer put on trial, and we ask the government to protect our prayer sites in Athens," said Zuri, a Moroccan protester."But we intend to set a good example and refrain from violence, Islam is a religion of peace," he said.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 30, 2009 6:45:19am |
re: #508 legalpad
I'll get it this afternoon. I think Dr. Sowell may be one of the most relevant thinkers of our time.
And, hey! You don't even have to take my word for it!
Among my own books, those that the most readers have said changed their minds have been A Conflict of Visions, Basic Economics, and Black Rednecks and White Liberals.
A Conflict of Visions is my own favorite among my books. It traces the underlying assumptions behind opposing ideologies that have dominated the Western world over the past two centuries and are still going strong today.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 6:45:21am |
re: #507 sattv4u2
There's a joke that involves the Special Olympics, and it's about arguing on the internet.
/zipping it now. :x
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:45:43am |
re: #527 tradewind
I feel certain that she felt certain. With all those predictions that are coming out of the woodwork now, she had to have had a long heads up.
*What* predictions? Did Nostradamus write a quatrain about her?
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 6:45:56am |
re: #534 Walter L. Newton
Shut up. It scared the snot out of me too... I tried to watch it once on a layover in DTW (which was scary enough in itself) and couldn't finish it.
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 6:46:17am |
re: #527 tradewind
I feel certain that she felt certain. With all those predictions that are coming out of the woodwork now, she had to have had a long heads up.
Makes sense--if I were a liberal Hispanic woman nominated to the appellate bench by a Republican President, I'd put myself on the short list.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:46:20am |
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:46:45am |
Huh. Appros of nothing much, but I just left to see Angie Harmon on F&F and she was pushing something called Clorox 3 in 1 - a detergent, fabric softener and something else I didn't catch.
BUT she said Clorox will donate $1.00 for each package of 3 in 1 that you buy to an entrepreneurial woman (or maybe men, too - she wasn't that clear) anywhere in the world - they have a website up somewhere - just go to Clorox.com and you can find it-so they can start to keep their own small businesses going and you can locate them on a map Clorox provides - Asia, South American, Africa - and can keep track of how their businesses are doing, how many other people they've been able to hire and all! How cool is that?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 6:46:50am |
re: #493 haakondahl
We've "spoken" a little before, and I already had a good impression of you. Quick question--where do I go to speak to intelligent liberals? I know they are out there, but I don't know where to find them.
Hey there haakondahl-- for what it's worth, I had I good impression of you too, the little we've spoken.
Straight up, I'd say that Kos and HuffPo and MoveOn are completely worthless--they're my sides equivalent of the comments at Free Republic and Gates of Vienna and Atlas Shrugs and HotAir.
If you want to *engage* with liberals and progressives in comments....I think I would recommend Balloon Juice.
John cole is a vet and was a republican and was a fierce defender of the bush admin on his blog for YEARS. He became disgusted by the the Bush admin and voted for Obama, but his opinions are by no means kneejerk lib, he's an independent and the community there is pretty cool. Sadly, loads of repub people turned on him as a traitor because he dared to switch sides.
I think Hullabaloo, Glenn Greenwald, and Crooks and Liars all run very thoughtful sites with good posts, but the comment section is too often overrun with crazy bickering.
I think it's very rare, on both sides, that we can find a place where both sides can engage without bullshit.
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 6:46:57am |
re: #538 MandyManners
Actually , Rush Limbaugh predicted she was on a ' rocket ship to the SCOTUS' over ten years ago, and I don't think it was his original thought. There were others, I'd have to look them up.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:46:59am |
re: #533 sattv4u2
Non that I could find. Her most "damning" attribute is her support for affirmative action type of decisons imho. If justice is supposed to be blind, there shouldn;'t be any weight given the color of ones skin nor their ethnicity
That's what I believe.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:47:12am |
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Mithrax Sat, May 30, 2009 6:47:43am |
re: #541 MandyManners
I have half-and-half, too.
Ugh. I can go out and get some.
Dinner I think will be pasta in a lemon-cream sauce, side of asparagus.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 6:48:34am |
re: #505 haakondahl
Favorite REM song: (Don't go back to) Rockville
Oh I;d give you a hundred thousand updings if I could for that-- the natalie merchant cover is also fantastic!
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:48:53am |
re: #537 laZardo
There's a joke that involves the Special Olympics, and it's about arguing on the internet.
/zipping it now. :x
I decided to go to bed before I let that Flyers twit have both barrels about that last night.
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 6:49:07am |
re: #546 MandyManners
not listening to him.... he must be about to go all Lost on us....
It ..never.. happened....
:)
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Macker Sat, May 30, 2009 6:49:25am |
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Macker Sat, May 30, 2009 6:50:06am |
re: #548 iceweasel
Oh I;d give you a hundred thousand updings if I could for that-- the natalie merchant cover is also fantastic!
Wasn't Michael Stipe banging Natalie Merchant at one time before he came out of the closet?
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 6:50:07am |
re: #543 iceweasel
If you find Hugh Hewitt illuminating, I'll go out and get one of those girl-crushes or whatever. (not sure how that all works)
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Mithrax Sat, May 30, 2009 6:50:22am |
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 6:50:53am |
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Macker Sat, May 30, 2009 6:51:16am |
Oh yes, before I go off to work (ugh)...Good Morning Lizards!
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 6:51:34am |
re: #552 Macker
Wasn't Michael Stipe banging Natalie Merchant at one time before he came out of the closet?
If Natalie Merchant (the big lefty) is in a closet somewhere, I'll get in it.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 6:51:38am |
re: #542 realwest
A guy won a Nobel prize a few years ago for starting that idea. They're called something like "micro-loans" where they loan poor people enough money to buy a sewing machine to start a small tailoring business, or a cart to sell fruit from. The idea apparently works really well and most people pay the money back.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 6:51:54am |
re: #551 Macker
What's particularly disturbing is that I'm reminded of this videogame series that illustrates what could have happened if that UFO missed.
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 6:52:20am |
re: #556 Macker
Oh yes, before I go off to work (ugh)...Good Morning Lizards!
GOOD MORNING FROM THE THREAD POLICE.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:52:37am |
re: #544 tradewind
Actually , Rush Limbaugh predicted she was on a ' rocket ship to the SCOTUS' over ten years ago, and I don't think it was his original thought. There were others, I'd have to look them up.
There's more history to her than I realized.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 6:54:29am |
re: #547 Mithrax
Ugh. I can go out and get some.
Dinner I think will be pasta in a lemon-cream sauce, side of asparagus.
I'm doing a black bean/rice/tortilla thing with lotsa' onion, sweet pepper and garlic.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 6:56:01am |
re: #551 Macker
What is this man smoking? Shit?
I read that article, and what is interesting, I have read every whacko and scientific piece of material on Tunguska, and I have never read anything about an object found with mysterious script on it. And the report of course doesn't ask for details. It's like we should all know about the mysterious object with marking on it.
Best scenario is it was a small comet that exploded above the earth. Despite some reports, there has been microscopic traces of material found, material that would only be found in a comet or possibly a meteorite.
It was a natural event.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 30, 2009 6:57:15am |
re: #558 Killgore Trout
A guy won a Nobel prize a few years ago for starting that idea. They're called something like "micro-loans" where they loan poor people enough money to buy a sewing machine to start a small tailoring business, or a cart to sell fruit from. The idea apparently works really well and most people pay the money back.
That was the original intent of the Empowerment Zones created back in 93 (I think that was the year)
Very small very low interest loans for people that promised to open small businesses in inner city blighted areas
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 6:59:19am |
re: #558 Killgore Trout
Huh, thanks Killgore I hadn't heard of it until today. Seems to be a really great idea though. And Clorox is sending a $1.00 per package to this organization which - unlike, say, the U.N. - actually keeps track of how the money is spent and provides free business advice and all.
It really sounds like a great idea to me. One woman buys a sewing machine, makes enough whatevers to buy more raw materials, hires another person to work with her and so forth. Economic independence is not only a good thing in it's own right (not to mention being able to go to bed at night with a full stomach!) but is a good head start to democracy too.
Well me and mom gotta do chores today, part of which involves going to the Supermarket and I'm gonna go look for this 3 in 1 stuff and see what I can find out.
It's also WAAAY cool that you can keep track of whomever you're money goes to, to see how the business is doing and all.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 30, 2009 6:59:29am |
re: #558 Killgore Trout
re: #567 sattv4u2
That was the original intent of the Empowerment Zones created back in 93 (I think that was the year)
Very small very low interest loans for people that promised to open small businesses in inner city blighted areas
Now of course, like any other gov't program it has been bloated and intrusive beyond recognition from it's original intent
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 7:01:46am |
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:03:16am |
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 7:04:14am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 7:05:34am |
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 7:05:52am |
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:07:10am |
re: #571 Walter L. Newton
Good morning Walter - you mean the ELJO
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 7:08:59am |
NAHA, Japan, May 30 (AP) - (Kyodo)—Four U.S. F-22A Raptor stealth fighters landed Saturday at the U.S. Kadena Air Base in Okinawa for their deployment of about four months, with eight more scheduled to arrive on Sunday.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
Too bad we don't have more? Sigh.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 7:09:18am |
re: #576 realwest
Good morning Walter - you mean the ELJO
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
re: #577 laZardo
/shabbat shalom, motherfuckers
Ok, it was a joke on the anagram, as in Electric Light Orchestra, it bomb is suspect, never mind. :)
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:10:59am |
Ben ripped a scab off his knee and it bled a bit. I cleaned it up with Bactine and slapped on SpongeBob SquarePants BandAids and he's back to shooting hoops.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:12:41am |
re: #578 Nevergiveup
Yes, it is indeed too bad we don't have more, but don't underestimate what 12 F-22's can do - they can, for example, give us Air Superiority over NORK if we decide we need it!
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:13:34am |
re: #579 Walter L. Newton
Of course it was Walter! Here's another ELO great one:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 7:13:41am |
re: #583 realwest
Yes, it is indeed too bad we don't have more, but don't underestimate what 12 F-22's can do - they can, for example, give us Air Superiority over NORK if we decide we need it!
Air Superiority over anyone out there.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 7:14:46am |
re: #560 MandyManners
Glenn Greenwald? BAH.
Aw, yes I know Glenn Greenwald is a figure of hate on the right....But here's one thing about him thatI swear you'll like: He has been RELENTLESS and merciless in pointing out the hypocrisy of Obama cultists of late. He has hammered those liberals who damned Bush for exactly the same things that Obama has supported now--and he's been relentless in pointing out that it's a complete double standard: the same liberals who hated Bush for certain decisions are continuing to support Obama for maintaining those positions---and worst of all, these people were highly critical of what they saw as a personality cult around Bush, yet they're totally happy to form a personality cult around Obama. GG totally NAILS Obama cultists on that.
Even if you hate GG, let's just say that even a stopped clock is right twice a day. :) You don't have to agree with his overall ideology to recognise that he's right here.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:15:17am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 7:15:47am |
re: #563 MandyManners
I'm doing a black bean/rice/tortilla thing with lotsa' onion, sweet pepper and garlic.
Sounds delicious, I'm very jealous!
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 7:17:42am |
re: #558 Killgore Trout
A guy won a Nobel prize a few years ago for starting that idea. They're called something like "micro-loans" where they loan poor people enough money to buy a sewing machine to start a small tailoring business, or a cart to sell fruit from. The idea apparently works really well and most people pay the money back.
One of the keys to it is that *women* pay the money back.
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 7:17:58am |
Things that make you want to tear your hair and just say WTF... And this was written by a Gideon Levy! arghhhhhh.
[Link: www.opendemocracy.net...]
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:18:41am |
re: #586 iceweasel
Ages ago, Charles linked to a cartoon of Greenwald as a master sock puppet. Quite funny.
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Throbert McGee Sat, May 30, 2009 7:19:13am |
re: #558 Killgore Trout
A guy won a Nobel prize a few years ago for starting that idea. They're called something like "micro-loans" where they loan poor people enough money to buy a sewing machine to start a small tailoring business, or a cart to sell fruit from. The idea apparently works really well and most people pay the money back.
That would be the Grameen Bank.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 7:20:04am |
Attn St Louis gardening geeks: Stinking Œcorpse flower¹ due to bloom in St. Louis
St. Louis -- Oh sure, there's a lot to be said for delicate, fragrant flowers. But it's a super big, stinky one that's drawing visitors to the University of Missouri in St. Louis.The school has opened a greenhouse to the public in anticipation of the imminent bloom of a "corpse flower." The plant hasn't bloomed in eight years, and opens for less than a day. It gives off a pungent odor similar to rotting meat, to attract the beetles that pollinate the plants.
The plant comes from Sumatra, and the university's greenhouse manager, Kathy Upton, has been growing it for 14 years after receiving seeds from a collector.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 7:20:25am |
re: #511 Walter L. Newton
Good for you and also sattv4u2 for doing such a thing. That's incredibly cool and I admire you both for it.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 7:20:34am |
re: #586 iceweasel
Thanks for the upding. C:
Oh, and spur of the moment....I like to describe myself as one of those "artsy" liberal types. q: Sandals, shorts and t-shirts with a messenger bag to college. And of course...the prerequisite subtly-capitalist tribute to Che Guevara.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:20:52am |
re: #589 haakondahl
Howdy Hawk - apparently this Clorox thing is not a loan; its a way of raising capital - probably why they have such oversite and business support and all.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 7:21:12am |
re: #593 Throbert McGee
Ah thanks. I watched a little documentary on his program a few years ago. It's amazing that it seems to actually work.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:21:17am |
re: #588 iceweasel
At least once a week I like to make a complicated dish.
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 7:21:35am |
re: #566 Walter L. Newton
I read that article, and what is interesting, I have read every whacko and scientific piece of material on Tunguska, and I have never read anything about an object found with mysterious script on it. And the report of course doesn't ask for details. It's like we should all know about the mysterious object with marking on it.
Best scenario is it was a small comet that exploded above the earth. Despite some reports, there has been microscopic traces of material found, material that would only be found in a comet or possibly a meteorite.
It was a natural event.
The impactor may have been a meteorite after all, as a few years ago I recall seeing that they had discovered a crater. Guess what, it filled with water, and nobody thought to examine the small lake for actually being the crater.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:24:14am |
re: #596 laZardo
GAH! You're comment on the Che thing includes your notation that "while Che sought to free the oppressed peoples of South America." and in fact he did no such thing.
And I'm surprised at you - really I am - you've been on here long enough to have read the truth about Dr. Ernesto "Che" Guevarra - monstrous murderer that he was.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:26:28am |
Huh. 57% Say New Korean War Likely in Near Future
Fifty-seven percent (57%) of Americans now believe it is at least somewhat likely that there will be a war between North Korea and South Korea in the near future. Twenty-six percent (26%) say it’s Very Likely.
Twenty-seven percent (27%) say it’s not all likely, and 16% aren’t sure in a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.At the same time, most Americans (53%) say the United Nations is unlikely to take effective action to halt North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. Despite worldwide criticism of the rogue country’s nuclear test last weekend, only 40% say it is likely that the U.N. take an effective stand. Just13% say it’s Very Likely.
Sixty-six percent (66%) of adults are at least somewhat concerned about the possible threat of North Korea using nuclear weapons against America. That figure includes 38% who are Very Concerned.
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]
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albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 7:26:53am |
re: #602 realwest
GAH! You're comment on the Che thing includes your notation that "while Che sought to free the oppressed peoples of South America." and in fact he did no such thing.
And I'm surprised at you - really I am - you've been on here long enough to have read the truth about Dr. Ernesto "Che" Guevarra - monstrous murderer that he was.
howdy
so did I...I let it go, there is no cure
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 7:26:59am |
re: #602 realwest
The board was made a couple of months before I first signed up here, actually.
Unfortunately, while I'm convinced that Che and his merry band did indeed kill people with extreme prejudice(as groups tended to do in that chaotic era), I'm not sure exactly how that makes him so much worse than the regimes that created the legacy of the desaparecidos.
/and to be fair, am no fan of what Castro turned Cuba into. Hurr.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 7:27:05am |
re: #600 haakondahl
The impactor may have been a meteorite after all, as a few years ago I recall seeing that they had discovered a crater. Guess what, it filled with water, and nobody thought to examine the small lake for actually being the crater.
Correct, the debate is really down to comet versus meteorite, but any of the more exotic explanations, including "mini black hole" have been rejected. Comet, meteorite, either, it was one massive event, one that hopefully we will never get to see again.
Side topic, I have a lunar meteorite and a MArtian meteorite fragment in my meteorite collection. Really neat to own something from another body in our galaxy.
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justdanny Sat, May 30, 2009 7:27:55am |
I know a woman whose husband was murdered by Che and his men. Che was by first hand account a simpleton monster puppet of communist ghouls.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 7:28:06am |
re: #592 MandyManners
Ages ago, Charles linked to a cartoon of Greenwald as a master sock puppet. Quite funny.
I know exactly what you're talking about-- it was really funny. I didn't run across it on LGF but elsewhere.
That incident is one reason why a lot of people on the right want to write GG off forever.
The real facts are that GG shares a house with someone and his partner was commenting in defense of him under a few different names on a few blogs that attacked GG.
Same computer, same IP--etc. So it looked like sockpuppeting.
GG has always signed his own name to the few comments he's left on other blogs attacking him.
I'm inclined to give GG the benefit of the doubt on the sockpuppetting issue.
Regardless, he genuinely has hit liberals and Obama partisans hard and mercilessly on the hypocrisy issue. Even if you disagree with him and don't respect him as a person, I think you'd really like those posts.
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Red Pencil Sat, May 30, 2009 7:29:24am |
re: #590 tradewind
Things that make you want to tear your hair and just say WTF... And this was written by a Gideon Levy! arghhhhhh.
[Link: www.opendemocracy.net...]
"A" Gideon Levy? You mean "THE" Gideon Levy. He churns out stuff like this for a paycheck, for Ha'aretz no less, and causes more hair loss than radiation poisoning.
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albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 7:29:46am |
re: #605 laZardo
The board was made a couple of months before I first signed up here, actually.
Unfortunately, while I'm convinced that Che and his merry band did indeed kill people with extreme prejudice(as groups tended to do in that chaotic era), I'm not sure exactly how that makes him so much worse than the regimes that created the legacy of the desaparecidos.
/and to be fair, am no fan of what Castro turned Cuba into. Hurr.
the moral equivalence is repulsive
| 611 |
KenJen Sat, May 30, 2009 7:29:59am |
Good morning everyone. Gonna be a great day. Question for realwest: Have you heard fron newsjunkie latley? Haven't seen her around in awhile.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:31:08am |
re: #605 laZardo
Well ok, then - if it was before you discovered LGF. And there are no excuses for Battista and his regime either, but by all accounts he was much more of a theif than a murderer (although that's sorta like saying the difference between Meyer Lansky and Albert Anastassia, I admit). But at least Battista was content to keep it inside Cuba.
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KenJen Sat, May 30, 2009 7:31:38am |
re: #606 Walter L. Newton
Correct, the debate is really down to comet versus meteorite, but any of the more exotic explanations, including "mini black hole" have been rejected. Comet, meteorite, either, it was one massive event, one that hopefully we will never get to see again.
Side topic, I have a lunar meteorite and a MArtian meteorite fragment in my meteorite collection. Really neat to own something from another body in our galaxy.
Cool. I saw a show on meteorite hunters. Some of those can be worth big bucks.
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legalpad Sat, May 30, 2009 7:31:53am |
Sidetracked. Great. Now I'm out of time. Must go do things. Back later.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:31:55am |
re: #608 iceweasel
I know exactly what you're talking about-- it was really funny. I didn't run across it on LGF but elsewhere.
That incident is one reason why a lot of people on the right want to write GG off forever.
The real facts are that GG shares a house with someone and his partner was commenting in defense of him under a few different names on a few blogs that attacked GG.
Same computer, same IP--etc. So it looked like sockpuppeting.
GG has always signed his own name to the few comments he's left on other blogs attacking him.
I'm inclined to give GG the benefit of the doubt on the sockpuppetting issue.
Regardless, he genuinely has hit liberals and Obama partisans hard and mercilessly on the hypocrisy issue. Even if you disagree with him and don't respect him as a person, I think you'd really like those posts.
How do you know this?
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:32:26am |
re: #613 taxfreekiller
Some reports that Ron Paul is upset with how he is being blamed by Republicans for the Tax Day Tea Party thing, and he is thinking of
switching to the Democrats next time he runs for Pres.. or his congressional seat.
WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 7:32:39am |
re: #613 taxfreekiller
Some reports that Ron Paul is upset with how he is being blamed by Republicans for the Tax Day Tea Party thing, and he is thinking of
switching to the Democrats next time he runs for Pres.. or his congressional seat.
He's going to have to fight Dennis Kucinich for the position of party jester.
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 7:32:57am |
re: #614 realwest
Well ok, then - if it was before you discovered LGF. And there are no excuses for Battista and his regime either, but by all accounts he was much more of a theif than a murderer (although that's sorta like saying the difference between Meyer Lansky and Albert Anastassia, I admit). But at least Battista was content to keep it inside Cuba.
Well Meyer Lansky wasn't in the muscle end of the mob and Albert got one to many shaves.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 7:33:08am |
re: #599 MandyManners
At least once a week I like to make a complicated dish.
That's really cool. I'm so lazy; I wish I did that. When will LGF have a recipe thread? I want to know more!
I love cooking.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:33:22am |
re: #607 justdanny
Hey HI justdanny! How are you doing? And Che was not a "simpleton" he really was a doctor - medical, not Phd. But he surely was a brutal murderer.
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 7:34:21am |
re: #622 realwest
Hey HI justdanny! How are you doing? And Che was not a "simpleton" he really was a doctor - medical, not Phd. But he surely was a brutal murderer.
Did he really ever graduate from Med School?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 7:35:11am |
re: #613 taxfreekiller
Some reports that Ron Paul is upset with how he is being blamed by Republicans for the Tax Day Tea Party thing, and he is thinking of
switching to the Democrats next time he runs for Pres.. or his congressional seat.
Oy. Yeah, that'll work for him.
*rollseyes*
(on the other hand, the Dems did take Arlen Spector, so who knows?)
(encouraged by the fact that AS may now have to face a primary challenge, thank god)
| 625 |
realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:35:16am |
re: #611 KenJen Hey,yeah I've been in touch with her; she had some abdominal surgery a week or so ago, but is on the mend now. I'll let her know you were asking after her!
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 7:35:18am |
re: #615 KenJen
Cool. I saw a show on meteorite hunters. Some of those can be worth big bucks.
Yep, think of it, my fragments are 20mg (Lunar meteorite) and 30mg (Martian meteorite), and I paid about 75 dollars a piece, no bigger than the head of a pin (but the martian really looks neat under a scope, lunar, well, looks like grey basalt, boring, becuase it is surface basaltic material).
Imagine the money you can make with a half kilo chunck after you cut it down?
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 7:35:30am |
re: #614 realwest
I would also like to add that given that it was for a skateboarding shoe company's design contest on famous people...I figured Che Guevara would easily appeal to the type of people who were into skateboarding. q;
/ended up losing to someone who chose "the children" on the rationale of "future icons of the world."
re: #610 albusteve
There were no saints in South America in those days.
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 7:35:51am |
re: #609 Red Pencil
That explains so much. I knew he had to be some kind of seriously disturbed Israeli.
Watching John Bolton utterly smack down Bill Maher now.... can't believe he was even allowed on his show. Wish we had him ( Bolton) in the State Dept now....
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 7:36:15am |
re: #599 MandyManners
At least once a week I like to make a complicated dish.
The last time I made a complicated dish, I married her. Some things are just too good to let go.
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albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 7:37:17am |
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:38:43am |
re: #620 Nevergiveup
ROFL! About Albert. Actually, in his younger years, Meyer and Lucky Luciano used to (had to, actually) provided their own muscle. Lansky could and did kill with a cold bloodedness (when he was younger -early to mid 20's) as Anastassia.
Did I ever tell you the story of how I met Lansky one day while just a very young lawyer?
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:39:25am |
re: #619 Walter L. Newton
He's going to have to fight Dennis Kucinich for the position of party jester.
The Dems' tent is big enough for two jesters.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:39:55am |
re: #621 iceweasel
That's really cool. I'm so lazy; I wish I did that. When will LGF have a recipe thread? I want to know more!
I love cooking.
LGF has a cookbook. Look for Reine's avatar.
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tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 7:40:00am |
re: #609 Red Pencil
What a great article on MOS (Masochistic Omnipotence Syndrome)... from your link...
[Link: www.theaugeanstables.com...]
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 7:40:12am |
re: #632 realwest
ROFL! About Albert. Actually, in his younger years, Meyer and Lucky Luciano used to (had to, actually) provided their own muscle. Lansky could and did kill with a cold bloodedness (when he was younger -early to mid 20's) as Anastassia.
Did I ever tell you the story of how I met Lansky one day while just a very young lawyer?
No- but feel free
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albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 7:42:36am |
re: #628 laZardo
I would also like to add that given that it was for a skateboarding shoe company's design contest on famous people...I figured Che Guevara would easily appeal to the type of people who were into skateboarding. q;
/ended up losing to someone who chose "the children" on the rationale of "future icons of the world."
re: #610 albusteve
There were no saints in South America in those days.
then he missed a calling eh?....he chose murder for political gain
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:42:44am |
re: #630 haakondahl
The last time I made a complicated dish, I married her. Some things are just too good to let go.
LOL!
One thing DickHead never tried to fault me for was my cooking.
| 641 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, May 30, 2009 7:43:16am |
re: #468 iceweasel
All of that is still true, but now I'm regg'd on LGF and I constantly argue that the GOP needs to return to real conservative roots.
Absolutely nobody asked, but I'll happily butt in and mention that I found LGF as a result of a 7 Degrees of Separation kinda thing involving Frank Zappa.
The main places I lurk apart from here are Pharyngula and Randi.org. I guess I'm in for it now.
/Thomas Paine-Barry Goldwater 2012!
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:43:24am |
re: #633 taxfreekiller
Well old Ron Paul was a big time libertarian before he needed to main stream his kook shit to get elected to congress and lied that he was a Republican, he is a much better fit with the loon current Democrat party.
Both of them are for the legalization of recreational drugs ect.
Prostitution, too?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 7:43:32am |
re: #617 MandyManners
How do you know this?
Sorry-- how do I know which part?
I can find you the links to the GG posts that I think you'd agree with, even if you don't like GG as a person, and/or dislike his general worldview, and/or even if you think GG sockpuppetted, if that's what you mean.
Sometimes I run across good points made by people I don't like and generally disagree with. I think that's cool, and I think the vast majority of LGF would actually (if grudgingly) like these points GG made and his argument for them. Just my opinion.
GG calls out some liberals for forming a personality cult around Obama when they decried what they saw as a Bush personality cult. Says that's hypocrisy, blatantly partisan, and just flat-out wrong. I agree with him and I think you would too.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 7:43:32am |
re: #632 realwest
ROFL! About Albert. Actually, in his younger years, Meyer and Lucky Luciano used to (had to, actually) provided their own muscle. Lansky could and did kill with a cold bloodedness (when he was younger -early to mid 20's) as Anastassia.
Did I ever tell you the story of how I met Lansky one day while just a very young lawyer?
Cue the ambience!
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:43:55am |
re: #641 negativ
Absolutely nobody asked, but I'll happily butt in and mention that I found LGF as a result of a 7 Degrees of Separation kinda thing involving Frank Zappa.
The main places I lurk apart from here are Pharyngula and Randi.org. I guess I'm in for it now.
/Thomas Paine-Barry Goldwater 2012!
Zappa?!
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:44:35am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 7:46:37am |
re: #630 haakondahl
The last time I made a complicated dish, I married her. Some things are just too good to let go.
Updinged and quoted because that is just too, too lovely.
Congrats to you and your honey.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:46:54am |
re: #631 albusteve
God morning to you! BTW, Wiki's got Che's death all wrong - just thought you'd like to know that. He was found by an A-Team of SF guys from Panama, sickly and lying in his bed. The A-Team secured him, took away his weapons and the A-Team Medic was treating him when the Bolivian "rangers" finally caught up to the A-Team and without one question, the Col. in charge of the Bolivian Rangers machine gunned Che to death. Almost started a war between the 12 US SF guys and the 100 or so Bolivan Rangers. WE Treated him as a Prisoner of War; the Bolivian Col. apparently had political aspirations and wanted to be known as the guy who killed Che.
I got that version of the truth from two of the 8th Group SF guys who were there when it happened.
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 7:47:36am |
re: #640 MandyManners
LOL!
One thing DickHead never tried to fault me for was my cooking.
Was that his pet name?
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pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 7:48:53am |
Mornin' all!
Evolution is a LIE!
well, it says so in the google ad bar.
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albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 7:49:05am |
re: #648 realwest
God morning to you! BTW, Wiki's got Che's death all wrong - just thought you'd like to know that. He was found by an A-Team of SF guys from Panama, sickly and lying in his bed. The A-Team secured him, took away his weapons and the A-Team Medic was treating him when the Bolivian "rangers" finally caught up to the A-Team and without one question, the Col. in charge of the Bolivian Rangers machine gunned Che to death. Almost started a war between the 12 US SF guys and the 100 or so Bolivan Rangers. WE Treated him as a Prisoner of War; the Bolivian Col. apparently had political aspirations and wanted to be known as the guy who killed Che.
I got that version of the truth from two of the 8th Group SF guys who were there when it happened.
I read parts of a book dealing with his capture...indeed he was murdered...hell of a story tho coming straight from the source
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 7:49:26am |
re: #648 realwest
God morning to you! BTW, Wiki's got Che's death all wrong - just thought you'd like to know that. He was found by an A-Team of SF guys from Panama, sickly and lying in his bed. The A-Team secured him, took away his weapons and the A-Team Medic was treating him when the Bolivian "rangers" finally caught up to the A-Team and without one question, the Col. in charge of the Bolivian Rangers machine gunned Che to death. Almost started a war between the 12 US SF guys and the 100 or so Bolivan Rangers. WE Treated him as a Prisoner of War; the Bolivian Col. apparently had political aspirations and wanted to be known as the guy who killed Che.
I got that version of the truth from two of the 8th Group SF guys who were there when it happened.
I pity tha foo' who has to be afraid of reprisals now over his stealing the spotlight.
/Did he really keep Che's Rolex?
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:49:41am |
re: #637 Nevergiveup
Well I will, but not now! Seriously have to get to getting some chores done!
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Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 7:50:35am |
re: #607 justdanny
I know a woman whose husband was murdered by Che and his men. Che was by first hand account a simpleton monster puppet of communist ghouls.
I met an Argentinian gentleman once here in DC who told me how he encountered Guevara once. He (this gentleman) was part of a group of traveling musicians at the time; they were in a town near, IIRC, Cordoba, Argentina. Guevara and his cohorts rolled into town, thought the musicians were cool, and, to impress them, showed them the kidnapped man they had in the trunk of their car. "I don't know why all these kids today think he was some sort of idealistic hero; he was just a criminal and a thug."
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Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 7:50:39am |
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KenJen Sat, May 30, 2009 7:50:41am |
Mine says "Ann Coulter-Free". So either she's given it away or she's just been released from prison.
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haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 7:51:11am |
re: #653 realwest
Well I will, but not now! Seriously have to get to getting some chores done!
Take Care, big man!
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:51:47am |
re: #638 justdanny
Hye (justdanny) - hope that avatar is a recent photo bud - you be looking pretty sharp there!
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pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 7:52:46am |
re: #654 Occasional Reader
I have Che' on a shirt that says "Commies aren't cool"
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 7:53:09am |
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avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 7:53:35am |
Morning all, great day here in Md. My 61 Studebaker Hawk just sold to a collector in Australia, 3rd car he's bought from me, next up will be a supercharged 63 Avanti.
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Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 7:54:11am |
re: #652 laZardo
I pity tha foo' who has to be afraid of reprisals now over his stealing the spotlight.
/Did he really keep Che's Rolex?
Of course, if the A-Team had hit Che first, they'd have blown him up with an explosive device attached to a 55 gallon drum of oil; Che would have flown about 30 feet through the air; and landed, entirely unharmed, with slightly singed clothing.
/Definitely the most realistic military-themed t.v. show of all time
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albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 7:54:22am |
re: #657 taxfreekiller
On Che:
He had been running in circles for days, he and his were lost,, "tool".
Often commie "tools" are lost about the real world, we are seeing that
close up on TV by teleprompter these dark days.
his bushcraft sucked....he was a rich pretty boy that got his ass shot off running around in circles...you are absolutely correct
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:54:26am |
re: #652 laZardo
I don't recall ever hearing anything about Che and a Rolex - but I wouldn't be surprised if that s.o.b. stole it too.
Seriously, our 12 guys - well 11 of 'em anyway - wanted to just shoot it out with those Bolivian Rangers, fortunately #12 was in command and he said NO - so they didn't try. Were pissed off about it for a long, long time.
| 667 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 7:54:40am |
re: #662 MandyManners
That was probably one of your nicer pet names!
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Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 7:55:23am |
re: #663 avanti
Morning all, great day here in Md. My 61 Studebaker Hawk just sold to a collector in Australia, 3rd car he's bought from me, next up will be a supercharged 63 Avanti.
You should spread the wealth around.
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realwest Sat, May 30, 2009 7:55:57am |
Well y'all it's been grand but gotta fly! Really late to getting those chores done!
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
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pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 7:55:59am |
re: #663 avanti
That has to be a bit spendy, to ship a car from the US to Oz.
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laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 7:56:15am |
re: #666 realwest
So much for "our sons-of-bitches," eh?
/Also, check my #644, your story hath piqued my interest.
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Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 7:56:26am |
re: #661 pingjockey
I have Che' on a shirt that says "Commies aren't cool"
I've seen that shirt. Nice, but I prefer the one that has Che with the Mickey Mouse ears... a little more subtle.
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KenJen Sat, May 30, 2009 7:56:35am |
re: #666 realwest
I don't recall ever hearing anything about Che and a Rolex - but I wouldn't be surprised if that s.o.b. stole it too.
Seriously, our 12 guys - well 11 of 'em anyway - wanted to just shoot it out with those Bolivian Rangers, fortunately #12 was in command and he said NO - so they didn't try. Were pissed off about it for a long, long time.
Maybe if he was wearing a Timex he would have survived. You know "take a lick'in but keep on tick'in."---bad I know.
| 674 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 7:58:17am |
re: #672 Occasional Reader
That's funny too. I have never been too subtle, especially with idiots who think Marx, Lenin, Castro, Che' are humanitarian luminaries!
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 7:59:41am |
re: #633 taxfreekiller
No way is Ron Paul going to the Dems. He's gaining a lot of popularity with Republicans and REpublicans are even cosponsoring his proposals now (HR1207). His son is now running as a Republican. Ron Paul's district doesn't have enough Dems in it to win a local election and in 2012 Obama will be running for a second term from the Dems. Ron Paul will probably run as a Republican again, maybe as an independent but definitely not as a Dem. I terms of grass roots support his Tea Parties are very popular with Republicans, no Dems allowed.
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albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:00:22am |
no collection is complete without one of these...VIVA CHE!
[Link: www.thechestore.com...]
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BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 8:02:01am |
re: #646 MandyManners
The part I bolded.
Forgive me-- I didn't understand. I'll reproduce:
"The real facts are that GG shares a house with someone and his partner was commenting in defense of him under a few different names on a few blogs that attacked GG."
How do you know this?
it's a very good question and I can't say I *know* this for a certainty--let's say that on balance of all the facts, it's what I believe to be true.
My reasons are these:
1) the sockpuppeting claim set off a witch-hunt on the (crazy) right. People went nuts finding out his personal info. One of the facts they unearthed and exposed is that GG is gay and living in Brazil with his Brazilian partner. This was published all over the place NOT by sites like LGF, but the real hardcore wacko righty sites.
2) GG finally posted about it-- the first time he ever raised the issue of where he lived, or his sexuality. He made it very clear that he hated having to do so. He denied he made those posts, but he didn't come out and say his partner made the posts-- he only made the neutral, intellectual point that anyone with access to his computer could make such posts.
3) I'd read a load of GG's stuff--posts and comments. For what it's worth, my experience tells me that the "sockpuppeting" comments were all made by one person and it's not GG.
4)I am an academic and consequently a lot of my work obviously involves detecting plagiarism. If you grade student papers you develop a knack for knowing when someone is assuming a fake voice. Fold this into 3.
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albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:02:18am |
one of my favorite pics of Che
[Link: www.che-lives.com...]
| 680 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:02:26am |
re: #677 albusteve
That site needs to be"nuked from orbit, just to be safe"!
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albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:03:45am |
re: #680 pingjockey
That site needs to be"nuked from orbit, just to be safe"!
you're not an evil capitalist?
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:04:06am |
re: #681 taxfreekiller
On Ron Paul, all's I know is his ideas fit with the current Democrats much better than the Republicans and he is a huge liability to the Republicans who my just boot him out now. He tried the libertarian way and that did not work. He thinks he is very progressive you know.
He's progressing right on into a rubber-room and five-point restraints.
| 686 |
avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:04:55am |
re: #670 pingjockey
That has to be a bit spendy, to ship a car from the US to Oz.
I thought so to, but a container on a ship is a lot cheaper/mile then one car on a 6 car trailer. i.e., it cost me $1200-$1400 coast to coast, but under $800 to Europe.
| 687 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:05:21am |
re: #682 albusteve
Yep. It is just the glorification of a murdering thug that gets me. I should've used a sarcasm tag! Yep, as in I am an evil capitalist.
| 688 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:06:03am |
re: #687 pingjockey
Yep. It is just the glorification of a murdering thug that gets me. I should've used a sarcasm tag! Yep, as in I am an evil capitalist.
I knew that
| 689 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:06:35am |
re: #678 iceweasel
it's a very good question and I can't say I *know* this for a certainty--let's say that on balance of all the facts, it's what I believe to be true.
My reasons are these:
1) the sockpuppeting claim set off a witch-hunt on the (crazy) right. People went nuts finding out his personal info. One of the facts they unearthed and exposed is that GG is gay and living in Brazil with his Brazilian partner. This was published all over the place NOT by sites like LGF, but the real hardcore wacko righty sites.
2) GG finally posted about it-- the first time he ever raised the issue of where he lived, or his sexuality. He made it very clear that he hated having to do so. He denied he made those posts, but he didn't come out and say his partner made the posts-- he only made the neutral, intellectual point that anyone with access to his computer could make such posts.
3) I'd read a load of GG's stuff--posts and comments. For what it's worth, my experience tells me that the "sockpuppeting" comments were all made by one person and it's not GG.
4)I am an academic and consequently a lot of my work obviously involves detecting plagiarism. If you grade student papers you develop a knack for knowing when someone is assuming a fake voice. Fold this into 3.
The weakest link in a chain, and it all falls apart, Point 2 is that link. This is not all facts, points 3 and 4 are based on your opinions. Your academic expertise is certainly not in hard science.
| 690 |
avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:07:00am |
re: #668 Occasional Reader
You should spread the wealth around.
I'd love too, but I'm still way under the 250K 3% increase in the marginal rate, so I'll take the small tax cut for us poor folk.
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Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 8:07:22am |
re: #687 pingjockey
Yep. It is just the glorification of a murdering thug that gets me. I should've used a sarcasm tag! Yep, as in I am an evil capitalist.
And, of course, so are the people who run that site... I couldn't help but notice that they were charging, you know, money for all their Che paraphenalia.
| 692 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:07:37am |
re: #686 avanti
I would've figured it would be more. That's not bad. If the Cubans ever get rid of Castro, there will be some very happy folks down there. Anytime the msm shows Havana, it looks like 1958! Collectors will go crazy.
| 694 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:08:50am |
re: #693 taxfreekiller
Some say that lots of the old car deals are made in cash and not reported at all.
:)
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albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:09:10am |
re: #689 Walter L. Newton
The weakest link in a chain, and it all falls apart, Point 2 is that link. This is not all facts, points 3 and 4 are based on your opinions. Your academic expertise is certainly not in hard science.
more gossip...as the stomach turns
| 696 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:09:11am |
re: #691 Occasional Reader
Oh noez! I figured with the ecofriendly t-shirts you plant 50 trees and get a couple of free ones!
| 697 |
Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 8:09:58am |
re: #686 avanti
I thought so to, but a container on a ship is a lot cheaper/mile then one car on a 6 car trailer. i.e., it cost me $1200-$1400 coast to coast, but under $800 to Europe.
I was surprised to hear from an acquaintance who was shipping his Porsche to Paraguay (don't ask) how little it cost; less than a thousand.
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Throbert McGee Sat, May 30, 2009 8:11:00am |
re: #608 iceweasel
The real facts are that GG shares a house with someone and his partner was commenting in defense of him under a few different names on a few blogs that attacked GG.
Same computer, same IP -- etc. So it looked like sockpuppeting.
You might want to give this a read -- it's pretty dismissive of Greenwald's claim that the "sock puppeteer" was actually GG's Brazilian boyfriend, and not GG himself.
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avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:11:04am |
re: #692 pingjockey
I would've figured it would be more. That's not bad. If the Cubans ever get rid of Castro, there will be some very happy folks down there. Anytime the msm shows Havana, it looks like 1958! Collectors will go crazy.
I think it'll work the other way for me to. I'll be shipping Studebaker parts to Cuba legally for a change. Now I have to ship to a broker for export.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:11:22am |
re: #695 albusteve
more gossip...as the stomach turns
Correct. She starts off saying the "facts" are, and two of her points are based on opinion and/or her observational abilities, which we have no proof of. Not a valid, logical argument in any sort of the word. Once again, the way liberal's debate.
| 704 |
laZardo Sat, May 30, 2009 8:11:24am |
re: #692 pingjockey
I would've figured it would be more. That's not bad. If the Cubans ever get rid of Castro, there will be some very happy folks down there. Anytime the msm shows Havana, it looks like 1958! Collectors will go crazy.
Careful though, I hear that many of the old American vehicles are running Soviet engines, stuck together pretty much with duct tape. Parts were quite hard to come by, after all.
/Peaceful co-existence!
| 705 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:12:19am |
re: #701 avanti
I think it'll work the other way for me to. I'll be shipping Studebaker parts to Cuba legally for a change. Now I have to ship to a broker for export.
Ah, you have not problem with breaking the export laws? Figures.
| 706 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:12:20am |
re: #701 avanti
You have that many damn parts? Yep, that'd work too.
| 707 |
avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:12:41am |
re: #697 Occasional Reader
I was surprised to hear from an acquaintance who was shipping his Porsche to Paraguay (don't ask) how little it cost; less than a thousand.
Yep, that why ebay is so successful, it makes the used car market world wide. I've exported over 20 Studebakers over the years.
| 708 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:13:33am |
re: #704 laZardo
Not so much parts, as that the bodies of the cars are very straight and have ben taken care of.
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:14:05am |
re: #678 iceweasel
Greenwald has been a non-entity to me so I'll just drop my part of the discussion now.
| 711 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:14:18am |
re: #697 Occasional Reader
I was surprised to hear from an acquaintance who was shipping his Porsche to Paraguay (don't ask) how little it cost; less than a thousand.
In Jamaica that's where the trouble starts...
"where's my car?"
"what car?"
| 712 |
Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 8:15:03am |
re: #701 avanti
I think it'll work the other way for me to. I'll be shipping Studebaker parts to Cuba legally for a change. Now I have to ship to a broker for export.
So currently, you're breaking the law?
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:15:10am |
re: #693 taxfreekiller
Some say that lots of the old car deals are made in cash and not reported at all.
You mean no taxes are paid?! How unpatriotic!
| 716 |
avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:15:35am |
re: #693 taxfreekiller
Some say that lots of the old car deals are made in cash and not reported at all.
There is a underground economy is every area, what's your point ?
| 717 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:16:00am |
re: #712 Occasional Reader
So currently, you're breaking the law?
I beat you to it above, but he won't answer me, so maybe your shot will envoke a response.
| 719 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:17:09am |
re: #712 Occasional Reader
So currently, you're breaking the law?
Isn't it illegal to use a third party to deal with Cuba?
| 721 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:17:38am |
re: #716 avanti
There is a underground economy is every area, what's your point ?
And so, because others break the law, it's alright for you to do it too? Such as unreported profits, and exporting to places that are closed by US laws.
| 722 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:17:41am |
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MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:18:09am |
re: #716 avanti
There is a underground economy is every area, what's your point ?
If others jump off a cliff will you?
| 724 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:18:12am |
re: #720 pingjockey
Goddamn capitalists! ////
No, law breakers. Sorry, I'm sort of black and white on most things.
| 725 |
avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:18:26am |
re: #712 Occasional Reader
So currently, you're breaking the law?
Not really, I have no control over where a broker in Canada or Mexico ships parts.
| 729 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:19:12am |
re: #724 Walter L. Newton
No, law breakers. Sorry, I'm sort of black and white on most things.
Here we go, all Avanti, all the time, and yep, I'll be as much to blame for it. It give Iceweaseal a chance to answer my last question to her.
| 730 |
Red Pencil Sat, May 30, 2009 8:19:19am |
re: #636 tradewind
What a great article on MOS (Masochistic Omnipotence Syndrome)... from your link...
[Link: www.theaugeanstables.com...]
Glad you liked it... Augean Stables is usually thoughtful and informative, though Richard Landes' use of jargon -- "Masochistic Omnipotence Syndrome" would be an example --- can be off putting.
| 731 |
Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 8:20:03am |
re: #725 avanti
Not really, I have no control over where a broker in Canada or Mexico ships parts.
Ever hear of the legal term "conspiracy"?
| 732 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:20:26am |
re: #725 avanti
Not really, I have no control over where a broker in Canada or Mexico ships parts.
Well, it's evident that you KNOW the brokers you are dealing with export to places like that, or else you wouldn't have mentioned it here.
| 733 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:20:36am |
re: #725 avanti
Not really, I have no control over where a broker in Canada or Mexico ships parts.
Oh, bullshit. Your No. 701 shows an awareness of--nay, a complicity in-- illegal activities.
| 734 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:20:40am |
re: #724 Walter L. Newton
Well, I had my fill with the state. Bought a car for 350$ and the state of WA said the blue book was 1200$ so I had to pay the sales tax on 1200$. Fuck them from now on.
| 735 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 8:20:56am |
re: #700 Throbert McGee
You might want to give this a read -- it's pretty dismissive of Greenwald's claim that the "sock puppeteer" was actually GG's Brazilian boyfriend, and not GG himself.
Thanks-- I'd already read it.
One small (yet important) correction-- GG never himself stepped up and said, Oooh, my bf did it. He has consistently refused to discuss his personal life, and he doesn't even blog about gay issues generally.
I think a LOT of lizards would find that they can agree with him on some issues if they read him.
GG never said his bf made the posts. Instead, he denied that he made them, pointed out how IP's etc work, and then sat back and let both the right and the left tear him to bits.
BTW, the hardcore left went off on him over this because he wouldn't just come out and say I'm gay and my bf left them. Instead he refused to engage at all in invasions of his personal privacy, and wouldn't pander to identity politics.
A lot of true conservatives would find much to like about him. In my opinion.
| 736 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:21:01am |
| 738 |
avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:22:57am |
re: #721 Walter L. Newton
And so, because others break the law, it's alright for you to do it too? Such as unreported profits, and exporting to places that are closed by US laws.
Walter, I normally don't reply to you, but in this case I must. WTF did I say that I did not report my business income or that I was exporting illegally. I will be able to legally ship to Cuba once they lift the embargo, but it's not illiberal to ship a old Studebaker water pump to a broker in a country that can ship to Cuba.
| 739 |
haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 8:23:06am |
re: #703 Walter L. Newton
Correct. She starts off saying the "facts" are, and two of her points are based on opinion and/or her observational abilities, which we have no proof of. Not a valid, logical argument in any sort of the word. Once again, the way liberal's debate.
On the other hand, she did manage to crank off several sentences which did not contain miserable errors, unlike all of yours except arguably the first.
On the gripping hand, at least Glenn Greenwald has shown himself to be a decent playwright, having written a scripted dialogue between fictional characters, and which amused a large audience.
| 740 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:23:13am |
re: #736 MandyManners
Beat me to it.
And in actuality, Avanti has left enough information about his activities on this thread, that if the FBI (or whoever would be involved) asked for these records on LGF, they would have a great foundation for a case.
| 741 |
tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 8:23:17am |
This doesn't sound like Wikipedia!
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
But whatev....anything that blocks those weirdos is a good thing.
| 742 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:23:56am |
| 743 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:24:21am |
re: #739 haakondahl
Been reading Niven and Pournelle, have we?
| 744 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:24:27am |
re: #738 avanti
Walter, I normally don't reply to you, but in this case I must. WTF did I say that I did not report my business income or that I was exporting illegally. I will be able to legally ship to Cuba once they lift the embargo, but it's not illiberal to ship a old Studebaker water pump to a broker in a country that can ship to Cuba.
do you report your earnings to the IRS?....what's the tax on sales where you live?....do you have a Che bobblehead?
| 745 |
Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 8:24:58am |
re: #738 avanti
but it's not illiberal
Paging Dr. Freud.
See, avanti, the thing it, your immediately previous posts make it perfectly clear that you are knowingly involved in sanctions-busting. So your sudden, Captain Renault-esque "shocked... shocked!" posture isn't terribly convincing.
| 746 |
haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 8:25:11am |
re: #716 avanti
There is a underground economy is every area, what's your point ?
More to the point, what is *your* point? How on earth did a Navy Chief become a Commie Smuggler?
| 747 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, May 30, 2009 8:25:21am |
"We will not stand idly by as North Korea builds the capability to reap destruction on any target in the region or on us," Gates said at the three-day Shangri-La Dialogue, which began Friday night."At the end of the day the choice to continue as a destitute international pariah or chart a new course is North Korea's alone to make. The world is waiting," he said.
Gates also said the United States will not accept North Korea as a nuclear weapons state.
Ready!
Prepare for Six Parteh Yaks.
Send money, parteh favors and pizza's.
SIT!
Repeat as necessary or until someone loses a city.
ugh
| 748 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:25:21am |
re: #742 MandyManners
Cool. Actually I was serious earlier, Greenwalds name is familiar and I don't know why?!
| 749 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 8:25:44am |
re: #710 MandyManners
Greenwald has been a non-entity to me so I'll just drop my part of the discussion now.
Hey, fair enough-- I certainly didn't mean to antagonise you. Have fun today with your cool cooking-- it sounds delicious!
| 750 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:26:23am |
re: #746 haakondahl
More to the point, what is *your* point? How on earth did a Navy Chief become a Commie Smuggler?
hahahaha!
| 751 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:26:37am |
re: #747 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
It's too late! They've got the damn nukes!
| 752 |
JacksonTn Sat, May 30, 2009 8:26:58am |
re: #748 pingjockey
Cool. Actually I was serious earlier, Greenwalds name is familiar and I don't know why?!
PJ ... well, for me ... the first person I thought of was Chevy Chase in Vacation movies ... just sounded the same ...
| 753 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:27:17am |
re: #739 haakondahl
On the other hand, she did manage to crank off several sentences which did not contain miserable errors, unlike all of yours except arguably the first.
On the gripping hand, at least Glenn Greenwald has shown himself to be a decent playwright, having written a scripted dialogue between fictional characters, and which amused a large audience.
Well, goody for him. And if the "playwright" comment is meant to indicate that I am not a "decent playwright," I would have to differ with you, not because of any personal opinion of my own, but because of the comments and criticism of others in the entertainment business. My record is very public and known, I don't need to argue the point with you, if that was your intention.
I really thought you were above cheap comments like that, which is normally reserved for my style of blogging. But, if you are not above snide, baseless posts, then, hey, good job, nice tie in.
| 755 |
Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 8:27:30am |
re: #748 pingjockey
Cool. Actually I was serious earlier, Greenwalds name is familiar and I don't know why?!
Charles has put up many posts about him over the years, specifically about his sockpuppetry, as well as his general left-wing shilling.
| 756 |
avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:27:31am |
re: #723 MandyManners
If others jump off a cliff will you?
All right, WTF is going on this AM ? I sell on ebay, all my sales are available for all to see and all are reported. I've been in business for over 30 years, been with the same accountant for a dozen and need to know what the point of this conversation is.
| 757 |
tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 8:27:34am |
re: #747 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
The norks have cried wolf so many times on their nukes that probably no one in the DD takes them all that seriously... they rattle the nuclear cage every time they want international attention.
Just hope they aren't being misunderestimated by Gates & Company this time.....
| 758 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 8:27:38am |
re: #729 Walter L. Newton
Here we go, all Avanti, all the time, and yep, I'll be as much to blame for it. It give Iceweaseal a chance to answer my last question to her.
Sorry, Walter-- I missed it. What is your last question?
| 759 |
Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 8:28:22am |
re: #746 haakondahl
More to the point, what is *your* point? How on earth did a Navy Chief become a Commie Smuggler?
Ever see what the Navy pays enlisted?
| 760 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:29:12am |
re: #752 JacksonTn
Clark Griswold/Wald? IIRC, as the crs fades with more caffine Greenwald has a blog and that's about it. Why am asking this? I don't frakkin' care!
| 761 |
JacksonTn Sat, May 30, 2009 8:29:16am |
re: #756 avanti
All right, WTF is going on this AM ? I sell on ebay, all my sales are available for all to see and all are reported. I've been in business for over 30 years, been with the same accountant for a dozen and need to know what the point of this conversation is.
avanti ... first ... you voted Obama and you are in love with him ... second ... take it like a man ... what do you want? ... you have a top ten comment ... that is all you get for a little while ...
| 762 |
haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 8:29:25am |
re: #717 Walter L. Newton
I beat you to it above, but he won't answer me, so maybe your shot will envoke a response.
Thanks for the play-by-play. The narpets will appreciate it.
| 763 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 8:29:33am |
re: #755 Occasional Reader
Glenn Greenwald was also one of the biggest shills for the stupid story of Trig being the child of Palin's daughter. He's an idiot and a nut. Just as stupid as Crazy Pam, although his grammar is a little better.
| 764 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 8:29:35am |
re: #753 Walter L. Newton
Well, goody for him. And if the "playwright" comment is meant to indicate that I am not a "decent playwright," I would have to differ with you, not because of any personal opinion of my own, but because of the comments and criticism of others in the entertainment business. My record is very public and known, I don't need to argue the point with you, if that was your intention.
I really thought you were above cheap comments like that, which is normally reserved for my style of blogging. But, if you are not above snide, baseless posts, then, hey, good job, nice tie in.
Dude, calm down! He's making fun of greenwald with that comment, and by extension me...he's on your SIDE!
All I'm sayin is, let's give peace a chance. :)
| 765 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:30:03am |
| 766 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:30:28am |
re: #755 Occasional Reader
Thanks. I will now drop the subject!
| 767 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 8:30:42am |
What's with all the shilling for Glenn Greenwald?
| 768 |
haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 8:31:05am |
re: #753 Walter L. Newton
Well, goody for him. And if the "playwright" comment is meant to indicate that I am not a "decent playwright," I would have to differ with you, not because of any personal opinion of my own, but because of the comments and criticism of others in the entertainment business. My record is very public and known, I don't need to argue the point with you, if that was your intention.
I really thought you were above cheap comments like that, which is normally reserved for my style of blogging. But, if you are not above snide, baseless posts, then, hey, good job, nice tie in.
Now Walter, I have never even read one of your plays. I am sure that I am quite unqualified to comment as to its quality.
| 769 |
_RememberTonyC Sat, May 30, 2009 8:31:11am |
I wonder if these guys were given a fair trial or subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques?
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
| 770 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 8:31:14am |
re: #763 Killgore Trout
Glenn Greenwald was also one of the biggest shills for the stupid story of Trig being the child of Palin's daughter. He's an idiot and a nut. Just as stupid as Crazy Pam, although his grammar is a little better.
No way. That is NOT true.
Andrew Sullivan ceaselessly pimped that baseless story, NOT GG.
| 771 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 8:31:48am |
re: #764 iceweasel
If you want to push idiots and conspiracy theories here you'll have better luck sticking with the Glenn Beck stuff. That'll go over better.
| 772 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, May 30, 2009 8:31:58am |
re: #751 pingjockey
It's too late! They've got the damn nukes!
We're going to be saying the same damned thing about the Mullah's.
Of course we've got brighter things to look forward to in the interim, like Hezbollahistan after Lebanon's June 7th elections.
| 773 |
Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 8:32:04am |
re: #769 _RememberTonyC
I wonder if these guys were given a fair trial or subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques?
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
I wonder if their families had to pay for the rope?
| 774 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:32:12am |
re: #767 Killgore Trout
Damn, sorry KT, I seem to have helped derail the frakkin' thread!
| 775 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:32:12am |
re: #739 haakondahl
On the other hand, she did manage to crank off several sentences which did not contain miserable errors, unlike all of yours except arguably the first.
On the gripping hand, at least Glenn Greenwald has shown himself to be a decent playwright, having written a scripted dialogue between fictional characters, and which amused a large audience.
I'm sorry if I misunderstood your comment. I thought you were trying to tie me in with GG and his/mine playwriting ability. I'm really not itching for a fight this morning, it must be my back, which is aching a bit.
| 776 |
Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 8:32:31am |
re: #763 Killgore Trout
Glenn Greenwald was also one of the biggest shills for the stupid story of Trig being the child of Palin's daughter. He's an idiot and a nut. Just as stupid as Crazy Pam, although his grammar is a little better.
I didn't know he had gotten involved in that particular form of nuttery.
Having quickly perused Throbert's link, one thing I can say in Greenwald's "defense" (in a way)... it appears that some were questioning whether the law firm with which he used to be associated (Wacthell Lipton) is "prestigious". Yes, it is. For M&A, it's probably the top firm in the country.
| 777 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:33:16am |
| 778 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:33:46am |
re: #772 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Oh yeah. JUst good news from all over. I wonder if Israel has called up their reserves yet?
| 779 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 8:33:53am |
re: #770 iceweasel
Oops. Did I get them mixed up? My bad. I stand corrected.
| 780 |
avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:34:17am |
re: #761 JacksonTn
avanti ... first ... you voted Obama and you are in love with him ... second ... take it like a man ... what do you want? ... you have a top ten comment ... that is all you get for a little while ...
I want to post on this blog and treat the other Lizards with respect. I don't want to be reported to the IRS or the FBI for so doing. As with the accusations that I was not a real Vet, anyone that wants to investigate my business, can surly do it, and use my LGF posts for what ever purpose they like, but I think it's a lame ass way to try to drive me away.
| 781 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:34:26am |
| 782 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 8:35:05am |
re: #776 Occasional Reader
Sorry I have my pundits mixed up this morning. Maybe I should just keep my mouth shut until I get enough caffeine in me.
| 783 |
_RememberTonyC Sat, May 30, 2009 8:35:55am |
re: #773 Nevergiveup
I wonder if their families had to pay for the rope?
they probably threw their family members into jail as co-conspirators ... just for fun ...
| 784 |
JacksonTn Sat, May 30, 2009 8:36:03am |
re: #780 avanti
I want to post on this blog and treat the other Lizards with respect. I don't want to be reported to the IRS or the FBI for so doing. As with the accusations that I was not a real Vet, anyone that wants to investigate my business, can surly do it, and use my LGF posts for what ever purpose they like, but I think it's a lame ass way to try to drive me away.
avanti ... maybe you need to keep your business dealing more secret ... this is a blog that the world can read ... the internet is not always a friendly place ...
| 785 |
Occasional Reader Sat, May 30, 2009 8:36:04am |
re: #782 Killgore Trout
Sorry I have my pundits mixed up this morning. Maybe I should just keep my mouth shut until I get enough caffeine in me.
It's okay, all those gay dudes look alike anyway.
KIDDING!
| 786 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:36:23am |
re: #782 Killgore Trout
Pundit Flakes...it's what's for breakfast!
| 788 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 30, 2009 8:37:48am |
re: #581 MandyManners
Ben ripped a scab off his knee and it bled a bit. I cleaned it up with Bactine and slapped on SpongeBob SquarePants BandAids and he's back to shooting hoops.
A boy after my own heart...Good on him..
/I used to cause those scrapped knees on my 3 boys on the court...
No mercy in the lane..LOL
| 790 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:38:25am |
re: #780 avanti
I want to post on this blog and treat the other Lizards with respect. I don't want to be reported to the IRS or the FBI for so doing. As with the accusations that I was not a real Vet, anyone that wants to investigate my business, can surly do it, and use my LGF posts for what ever purpose they like, but I think it's a lame ass way to try to drive me away.
Possibly, just possibly, some people are trying to give you some good advice to keep certain things to yourself? Sometimes you try so hard to fit in, you shoot yourself in your own foot.
| 791 |
_RememberTonyC Sat, May 30, 2009 8:38:42am |
gotta go to work now ...... have a wonderful day
| 792 |
Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 8:39:23am |
re: #790 Walter L. Newton
Possibly, just possibly, some people are trying to give you some good advice to keep certain things to yourself? Sometimes you try so hard to fit in, you shoot yourself in your own foot.
I can think of worse places to get shot.
| 793 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:40:05am |
re: #790 Walter L. Newton
I just hope the FBI/IRS has more serious stuff to do than check out this blog!
| 794 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:41:00am |
re: #793 pingjockey
I just hope the FBI/IRS has more serious stuff to do than check out this blog!
Revenue is DOWN, as per some articles I read this week. Anything is possible. Oh gosh, I shouldn't have said that.
| 795 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 8:41:18am |
Okay did I wake up in an alternate universe? Did somebody swap out my coffee with decaf?
What is the world coming to?
Avanti has the top comment?
| 796 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 8:41:18am |
Olberman goes for the fake but accurate defense....
Mancow Addresses Accusation That His Waterboarding Was A Hoax (VIDEO)
| 797 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 30, 2009 8:41:27am |
re: #780 avanti
I want to post on this blog and treat the other Lizards with respect. I don't want to be reported to the IRS or the FBI for so doing. As with the accusations that I was not a real Vet, anyone that wants to investigate my business, can surly do it, and use my LGF posts for what ever purpose they like, but I think it's a lame ass way to try to drive me away.
Nobody will drive you away Chief...We are all adults here..Right lizards?
/Although anybody that likes Avanti cars should be reported to the FBI for bad taste..:)
| 798 |
avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:41:41am |
re: #784 JacksonTn
avanti ... maybe you need to keep your business dealing more secret ... this is a blog that the world can read ... the internet is not always a friendly place ...
I get that, but I have nothing to hide. Most of my income is my Navy retirement and social security. The Studebakers are mostly a labor of love, I make a few bucks on some, lose on others and report it all. It's a big part of my life, and I don't see why I can't share it.
| 799 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:42:30am |
re: #795 jcm
Okay did I wake up in an alternate universe? Did somebody swap out my coffee with decaf?
What is the world coming to?
Avanti has the top comment?
Well, he may have the top comment again for some posts this morning, but not for the reason he would want it.
| 800 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:43:01am |
re: #794 Walter L. Newton
Good Day Mr. Newton. We're from the IRS and need to see all of your financial data for the last 10 years!
| 801 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 30, 2009 8:43:34am |
re: #795 jcm
Okay did I wake up in an alternate universe? Did somebody swap out my coffee with decaf?
What is the world coming to?
Avanti has the top comment?
The end of the world as we know it....
/Avanti is a member of the illumanti.. I read that somewhere..Probably a Dan Brown book
| 802 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:44:27am |
re: #795 jcm
Okay did I wake up in an alternate universe? Did somebody swap out my coffee with decaf?
What is the world coming to?
Avanti has the top comment?
The subject matter got the dings.
| 803 |
pingjockey Sat, May 30, 2009 8:44:42am |
Later folks.....Chores, before it gets to damn hot. 96 here in eastern WA today!
| 804 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 8:45:11am |
re: #800 pingjockey
Good Day Mr. Newton. We're from the IRS and need to see all of your financial data for the last 10 years!
Morning Ping.... we're heading into the 80°'s today!
Global warming.... (formerly called summer).
| 805 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:45:44am |
re: #800 pingjockey
Good Day Mr. Newton. We're from the IRS and need to see all of your financial data for the last 10 years!
I have no problem. I'm actually one of them smoes that pays them everything that is due them. I have nothing barely to deduct, so, I can't even play the legal game of finding the loopholes.
| 806 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 8:46:13am |
Walter, you said this:
It give Iceweaseal a chance to answer my last question to her.
i said, "Sorry, Walter-- I missed it. What is your last question?"
you linked me here:
re: #689 Walter L. Newton
The weakest link in a chain, and it all falls apart, Point 2 is that link. This is not all facts, points 3 and 4 are based on your opinions. Your academic expertise is certainly not in hard science.
I still don't see a question. I see a few assertions, and then a completely unwarranted speculation about the area in which my PhD is and the academic department in which I work: "Your academic expertise is certainly not in hard science."
HA!
I chose not to respond to you.
if you have a question, or would like to engage on issues, I will certainly respond.
Cheers,
iceweasel
| 807 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 8:46:20am |
re: #802 MandyManners
The subject matter got the dings.
I ding it too....
Just ribbing Avanti, if he keeps it up he'll lose his status as the resident contrarian.
| 808 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 8:46:56am |
re: #806 iceweasel
Walter, you said this:
It give Iceweaseal a chance to answer my last question to her.
i said, "Sorry, Walter-- I missed it. What is your last question?"
you linked me here:I still don't see a question. I see a few assertions, and then a completely unwarranted speculation about the area in which my PhD is and the academic department in which I work: "Your academic expertise is certainly not in hard science."
HA!I chose not to respond to you.
if you have a question, or would like to engage on issues, I will certainly respond.
Cheers,
iceweasel
Fair enough. My comment stands.
| 809 |
avanti Sat, May 30, 2009 8:47:03am |
re: #793 pingjockey
I just hope the FBI/IRS has more serious stuff to do than check out this blog!
If you guys were trying to give me a heads up, it's a funny way to do it. Trust me, if I was doing anything that the FBI or IRS would care about, I would not post it here.
Again, we got off track talking about me, and you have better things to do, so I'll get back to working on my criminal old car hobby for a bit. It's still a good day here.
| 810 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:47:41am |
re: #807 jcm
I ding it too....
Just ribbing Avanti, if he keeps it up he'll lose his status as the resident contrarian.
He's replaced Cognito?
| 811 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, May 30, 2009 8:47:56am |
re: #800 pingjockey
Good Day Mr. Newton. We're from the IRS and need to see all of your financial data for the last 10 years!
We're also here to help you. Now bend-over!
| 812 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:48:55am |
| 815 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 8:49:52am |
re: #779 Killgore Trout
Oops. Did I get them mixed up? My bad. I stand corrected.
no prob! GG mostly (and rightly) ignored that whole story and came out and said that only lunatics were pursuing it.
Andrew Sullivan is the guy who went COMPLETELY insane about it, posting rumours and innuendo long after every reputable progressive/liberal site said 'this is bullshit!"
| 816 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:50:04am |
| 817 |
Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 8:50:33am |
Saudi Arabia beheads and crucifies murder convict
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Personally I think the convict got the point when they cut his head off, but what do I know?
| 818 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, May 30, 2009 8:51:51am |
Whoa...the honeymoon is definitely ovah! Ted Rall: It’s increasingly evident that Obama should resign
| 819 |
Desert Dog Sat, May 30, 2009 8:52:01am |
re: #817 Nevergiveup
Saudi Arabia beheads and crucifies murder convict
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Personally I think the convict got the point when they cut his head off, but what do I know?
They should have crucified first and THEN beheaded....man, what amateurs!
/
| 822 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:52:18am |
All the beasties are asleep here. I talked to my dad who told me all that they ate at the game last night, and that they drank MelloYello. He didn't know that is is loaded with caffeine but, he does now.
| 823 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:52:48am |
| 824 |
Desert Dog Sat, May 30, 2009 8:53:18am |
re: #818 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Whoa...the honeymoon is definitely ovah! Ted Rall: It’s increasingly evident that Obama should resign
Ted Rall is an insect and a weasel. He should resign HIS job and go away forever.
| 825 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 30, 2009 8:53:29am |
re: #810 MandyManners
He's replaced Cognito?
That would be an insult..Cog enjoyed being a smart ass to certain lizards..
Avanti has never insulted anyone here has has taken thousands of insults without returning fire in kind..
You may not agree with his politics but by God he has been nothing but a gentleman here..
| 827 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:53:43am |
| 828 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:54:42am |
re: #825 HoosierHoops
That would be an insult..Cog enjoyed being a smart ass to certain lizards..
Avanti has never insulted anyone here has has taken thousands of insults without returning fire in kind..
You may not agree with his politics but by God he has been nothing but a gentleman here..
I was referring to the contrarian bit and nothing else. I'm sorry for pissing you off, Hoops.
| 829 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 8:55:08am |
| 830 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:55:18am |
re: #823 MandyManners
A giant, sucking sound.
Cognito didn't like me....maybe in time I'll get over it
| 832 |
Desert Dog Sat, May 30, 2009 8:56:09am |
re: #830 albusteve
Cognito didn't like me....maybe in time I'll get over it
Over it yet? bet you are
| 833 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 8:56:29am |
re: #825 HoosierHoops
That would be an insult..Cog enjoyed being a smart ass to certain lizards..
Avanti has never insulted anyone here has has taken thousands of insults without returning fire in kind..
You may not agree with his politics but by God he has been nothing but a gentleman here..
he overtly insulted me for no reason...then denied his own post
| 834 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 30, 2009 8:56:43am |
re: #828 MandyManners
I was referring to the contrarian bit and nothing else. I'm sorry for pissing you off, Hoops.
Oh Honey..You could never piss me off..I wasn't talking about you..
I just think he has been treated unfairly for being a lib..Fuck I married a lib..
Love you Mandy..Sorry if that came off wrong
| 835 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 8:56:55am |
Right wing conspiracy theory of the day....
White House pushing to gag stimulus critics
Caution: Obama gangland tactics at work.In keeping with his past campaign tactics to shut critics up through brute force, the White House appears to be taking steps to crack down on critics of the trillion-dollar porkulus law.
I don't even bother looking into this crap anymore. It's just not worth the effort.
| 836 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 8:57:45am |
re: #834 HoosierHoops
Oh Honey..You could never piss me off..I wasn't talking about you..
I just think he has been treated unfairly for being a lib..Fuck I married a lib..
Love you Mandy..Sorry if that came off wrong
You're right, Avanti's acquitted himself well here.
| 837 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:00:20am |
re: #830 albusteve
Cognito didn't like me....maybe in time I'll get over it
I'll never forget when that little fucker said I was lying when I said I had known war correspondents. Yeah, right. Only HE could know them. Arrogant puke.
| 838 |
irongrampa Sat, May 30, 2009 9:00:26am |
Good morning from the Adirondacks. Nice breezy cool day today. Perfect conformation with the RuleBook.
Avanti, you'll get a kick out of this, I think. Down at one of our local ice cream stands with the Toy, some clown offered me 5k for it. Asked him which corner he wanted to buy, he got bent out of shape and went into a diatribe about how simple and cheap it was to take an old car and "puff it up". All I could do was laugh at him, and walk away.
| 839 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 9:01:21am |
Burma's Aung San Suu Kyi Allowed to Meet with Lawyers
Aung San Suu Kyi's lawyer says Burmese military authorities allowed the detained opposition leader to meet with her lawyers for two hours Saturday in Rangoon's notorious Insein prison, apparently to prepare for final arguments in her trial.Attorney Kyi Win told VOA Burmese Service that the Nobel peace laureate is in good health.
[snip]
Aung San Suu Kyi is on trial for allegedly violating the terms of her house arrest.The trial stems from a visit by an intruder who swam to her lakeside home in early May and stayed overnight.
The American intruder, John Yettaw, is also on trial. He told the court he had dreamt that the 63-year-old Nobel Prize laureate would be assassinated and that he came to warn her.
If convicted, Aung San Suu Kyi could be sentenced to a prison term of up to five years. She has spent 13 of the past 19 years under house arrest.
IIRC correctly Bruma has "elections" coming up, and Junta is clearing out the obstacles.
| 840 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:01:36am |
re: #831 jcm
How is Mr. Tall and Handsome horseman?
Busy. We wave at each other but, I've not taken it further.
I'm such a chicken.
| 841 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 9:02:10am |
re: #835 Killgore Trout
Right wing conspiracy theory of the day....
White House pushing to gag stimulus critics
I don't even bother looking into this crap anymore. It's just not worth the effort.
>Check out this passage from a post on the White House blog by Norm Eisen, Special Counsel to the President on Ethics and Government Reform (emphasis added):
“First, we will expand the restriction on oral communications to cover all persons, not just federally registered lobbyists. For the first time, we will reach contacts not only by registered lobbyists but also by unregistered ones, as well as anyone else exerting influence on the process. We concluded this was necessary under the unique circumstances of the stimulus program.
| 842 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 9:02:11am |
re: #835 Killgore Trout
Right wing conspiracy theory of the day....
White House pushing to gag stimulus critics
I don't even bother looking into this crap anymore. It's just not worth the effort.
Really, then how did you find it?
Actually, there has been a trend in the Obama administration to "imply" that certain topics and issues are, in the least, bad form to mention or bring up in public.
The most recent event of this nature I can think of is this comment by Robert Gibbs in regards to the talk of Sotomayor...
“I think it is probably important for anybody involved in this debate to be exceedingly careful with the way in which they’ve decided to describe different aspects of this impending confirmation,” Gibbs said.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
To be "exceedingly careful." My, that sounds a bit heavy handed. And this kind of rhetoric has been heard in the White House press room on a number of occasions.
My opinion, keep a watchful eye on the Obama administration and how they treat free speech.
| 843 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:02:12am |
re: #834 HoosierHoops
Oh Honey..You could never piss me off..I wasn't talking about you..
I just think he has been treated unfairly for being a lib..Fuck I married a lib..
Love you Mandy..Sorry if that came off wrong
No problem!
((((((HH))))))
| 844 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 9:02:42am |
re: #840 MandyManners
Busy. We wave at each other but, I've not taken it further.
I'm such a chicken.
Let's raise money to buy The Kid a horse.... Then Mandy will need "help!"
;-)
| 845 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 9:02:45am |
re: #836 jcm
You're right, Avanti's acquitted himself well here.
he has and I love him like a brother
| 846 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 9:03:51am |
re: #837 MandyManners
I'll never forget when that little fucker said I was lying when I said I had known war correspondents. Yeah, right. Only HE could know them. Arrogant puke.
he does not like hayseeds...I resent that
| 847 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 30, 2009 9:03:58am |
re: #841 albusteve
Yeah, but all the Republican car dealers have been sent to FEMA camps because of the DHS memo.
| 848 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:04:24am |
re: #839 jcm
Burma's Aung San Suu Kyi Allowed to Meet with Lawyers
IIRC correctly Bruma has "elections" coming up, and Junta is clearing out the obstacles.
The American intruder, John Yettaw, is also on trial. He told the court he had dreamt that the 63-year-old Nobel Prize laureate would be assassinated and that he came to warn her.
WTF?
| 849 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 9:05:00am |
re: #840 MandyManners
Busy. We wave at each other but, I've not taken it further.
I'm such a chicken.
toss a hankie out your window when you drive past....see what shakes out
| 850 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 9:05:07am |
re: #847 Killgore Trout
Yeah, but all the Republican car dealers have been sent to FEMA camps because of the DHS memo.
They're getting the place fixed up for SUV drivers........
| 851 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 9:06:36am |
re: #848 MandyManners
WTF?
I posted that story a while back, some drunk, off his rocker American admirer swam across a lake to her compound.
The authorities arrest her for violating house arrest.
I smell a rat around the whole thing.
| 852 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:06:45am |
re: #842 Walter L. Newton
Really, then how did you find it?
Actually, there has been a trend in the Obama administration to "imply" that certain topics and issues are, in the least, bad form to mention or bring up in public.
The most recent event of this nature I can think of is this comment by Robert Gibbs in regards to the talk of Sotomayor...
“I think it is probably important for anybody involved in this debate to be exceedingly careful with the way in which they’ve decided to describe different aspects of this impending confirmation,” Gibbs said.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
To be "exceedingly careful." My, that sounds a bit heavy handed. And this kind of rhetoric has been heard in the White House press room on a number of occasions.
My opinion, keep a watchful eye on the Obama administration and how they treat free speech.
This goes beyond controlling the language in order to control the debate. FCBBHO is warning critics to shut the fuck up.
| 853 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 30, 2009 9:07:11am |
re: #849 albusteve
toss a hankie out your window when you drive past....see what shakes out
Borrow a cup of sugar...
don't forget to get to return it..2 meetings..1 cup...
:)
| 854 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, May 30, 2009 9:08:12am |
re: #824 Desert Dog
Ted Rall is an insect and a weasel. He should resign HIS job and go away forever.
I won't even discuss Rall but it's going to be interesting to watch the reaction of those who carry-his-crap respond to this obvious deviant behavior in the case of the Great One. I mean...really, resign? ;)
| 856 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:08:55am |
re: #844 jcm
Let's raise money to buy The Kid a horse.... Then Mandy will need "help!"
;-)
Noooooooo. The equistrian world would never forgive. Actually, I looked into getting him a horse but, it's just too much work right now.
| 857 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:09:31am |
re: #846 albusteve
he does not like hayseeds...I resent that
One of the greatest avoiders of all times.
| 858 |
gtrs Sat, May 30, 2009 9:09:36am |
re: #815 iceweasel that whole "affair" was so incredibly dumb(and not a national issue in my view); i got blasted on kos for saying that "we" looked silly even discussing it without any FACTS(to be fair, MANY on kos agreed with me and it died out pretty quickly but there were some wacky few over there that thought it was somehow good politics)
| 859 |
KenJen Sat, May 30, 2009 9:09:46am |
re: #840 MandyManners
Busy. We wave at each other but, I've not taken it further.
I'm such a chicken.
What's this about a tall/handsome horseman?
| 860 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 9:09:47am |
re: #822 MandyManners
All the beasties are asleep here. I talked to my dad who told me all that they ate at the game last night, and that they drank MelloYello. He didn't know that is is loaded with caffeine but, he does now.
Oy. MelloYello and also Mountain Dew-- some people think they have no caffeine but they're the worst! kids bounce off the walls when they drink them!
| 861 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 9:10:14am |
re: #856 MandyManners
Noooooooo. The equistrian world would never forgive. Actually, I looked into getting him a horse but, it's just too much work right now.
get him into rocket football...that's all the activity he'll ever need....did you ask my advice?
| 862 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:10:14am |
re: #849 albusteve
toss a hankie out your window when you drive past....see what shakes out
Play games?!
| 863 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 9:10:26am |
re: #856 MandyManners
Noooooooo. The equistrian world would never forgive. Actually, I looked into getting him a horse but, it's just too much work right now.
There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.
~Winston Churchill
| 865 |
A Man for all Seasons Sat, May 30, 2009 9:10:57am |
re: #859 KenJen
What's this about a tall/handsome horseman?
We need to set Mandy up with a smoking hot fireman that likes kids...
e-Harmony?
/Ducking
| 866 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:11:06am |
re: #851 jcm
I posted that story a while back, some drunk, off his rocker American admirer swam across a lake to her compound.
The authorities arrest her for violating house arrest.
I smell a rat around the whole thing.
I wonder if there's been a psych. eval. of the American.
WTF am I thinking?
| 868 |
haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 9:11:32am |
| 869 |
NY Nana Sat, May 30, 2009 9:11:59am |
| 870 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 9:12:11am |
re: #852 MandyManners
This goes beyond controlling the language in order to control the debate. FCBBHO is warning critics to shut the fuck up.
I agree, and that's my point. I don't think it is a "Right wing conspiracy theory of the day..." as Killgore imagines it. It's plain stated policy by the administration and, combined with other such statement (as I link to one of them), it is VERY troublesome.
| 871 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:12:30am |
re: #859 KenJen
What's this about a tall/handsome horseman?
Just a man I met a few weeks ago at a neighborhood party. Talk, dark, handsome, wide shoulders, breeds horses...nothing special.
| 872 |
JacksonTn Sat, May 30, 2009 9:12:39am |
Hey Lizards ... off to check on things ... hope ya'll have a great day! ... I will be back for the SNMT ... later ...
| 873 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 9:12:40am |
re: #865 HoosierHoops
We need to set Mandy up with a smoking hot fireman that likes kids...
e-Harmony?
/Ducking
| 875 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:13:20am |
re: #860 iceweasel
Oy. MelloYello and also Mountain Dew-- some people think they have no caffeine but they're the worst! kids bounce off the walls when they drink them!
They seem to think they're like SevenUp and Sprite.
| 876 |
NY Nana Sat, May 30, 2009 9:13:41am |
re: #845 albusteve
he has and I love him like a brother
/Are you an only child?
Sorry...I just had to ask that. I had to!
| 877 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:13:54am |
re: #861 albusteve
get him into rocket football...that's all the activity he'll ever need....did you ask my advice?
What's rocket football?
| 878 |
Mithrax Sat, May 30, 2009 9:13:56am |
re: #875 MandyManners
They seem to think they're like SevenUp and Sprite.
Mello YEllow?
Sheesh. Just give them coffee instead :P
| 880 |
KenJen Sat, May 30, 2009 9:15:21am |
re: #871 MandyManners
Just a man I met a few weeks ago at a neighborhood party. Talk, dark, handsome, wide shoulders, breeds horses...nothing special.
If you don't want him I'll take him.
| 881 |
justdanny Sat, May 30, 2009 9:15:26am |
re: #867 Cathypop
Whenever I'm covered up with too much on my mind, I know I can go watch this little kid play guitar and find myself back in a place of peace.
| 882 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:16:07am |
re: #863 jcm
There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.
~Winston Churchill
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
Groucho Marx
| 883 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 9:16:40am |
re: #876 NY Nana
/Are you an only child?
Sorry...I just had to ask that. I had to!
I have two older sisters....they beat me mercilessly back then, and still threaten me
| 884 |
Cathypop Sat, May 30, 2009 9:17:03am |
re: #881 justdanny
Exactly what the doctor ordered for today.
| 885 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:17:10am |
| 886 |
Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 9:17:26am |
Arlene Specter and Lyndsay Graham on Fox tomorrow morning. Time to sleep in or go out for bagels and lox. No need to see or hear them.
| 887 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:18:24am |
re: #870 Walter L. Newton
I agree, and that's my point. I don't think it is a "Right wing conspiracy theory of the day..." as Killgore imagines it. It's plain stated policy by the administration and, combined with other such statement (as I link to one of them), it is VERY troublesome.
If he gets a second term, I wonder if FCBBHO will go after the Fairness Doctrine (whichever name it goes by) and/or try to impose net neutrality.
| 888 |
tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 9:19:03am |
re: #824 Desert Dog
Bwahahahahahahahahahahah.
The reader comments are even better than Rall's rant.
Makes my day.
| 889 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 9:19:23am |
re: #877 MandyManners
What's rocket football?
a league for kids, 8yrs and up....they will learn a wide spectrum of virtues...how to win and lose, sportsmanship, teamwork, effort and reward...how to clobber people
| 890 |
Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 9:19:40am |
re: #887 MandyManners
If he gets a second term, I wonder if FCBBHO will go after the Fairness Doctrine (whichever name it goes by) and/or try to impose net neutrality.
He is gonna want to neuter my pets! What the fuc.....oh net neutrality..never mind.
| 891 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:19:44am |
| 892 |
tradewind Sat, May 30, 2009 9:19:55am |
re: #878 Mithrax
It'd be healthier.. at least it'd be sugar free with some antioxidants.
| 893 |
NY Nana Sat, May 30, 2009 9:19:57am |
re: #879 Tarkus289
Awful, just f*cking awful.
And he gets paid for that? He is not fit to lick pat Tillman's shoes. What a tragic loss.
He chose to serve our country, when he could have kept on playing football. He is a true hero. May he rest in peace.
| 894 |
VegasRick Sat, May 30, 2009 9:19:58am |
re: #887 MandyManners
If he gets a second term, I wonder if FCBBHO will go after the Fairness Doctrine (whichever name it goes by) and/or try to impose net neutrality.
They will have to pry my mouse from my cold dead fingers!
| 895 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:20:52am |
re: #878 Mithrax
Mello YEllow?
Sheesh. Just give them coffee instead :P
My dad took them to a ball game last night and got that for them, not knowing about the caffeine. That's why they stayed up all night playing on PS3.
| 896 |
justdanny Sat, May 30, 2009 9:20:56am |
re: #884 Cathypop
Yes. And after lunch I'll be back for more of this kids six string medicene.
I hope his parents love him and are proud of him equal to the amount of pure joy he brings to my weary mind.
| 897 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:21:31am |
re: #880 KenJen
If you don't want him I'll take him.
I don't know what I'd do with him if I got him.
| 898 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 9:23:37am |
| 899 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 9:23:40am |
re: #887 MandyManners
If he gets a second term, I wonder if FCBBHO will go after the Fairness Doctrine (whichever name it goes by) and/or try to impose net neutrality.
Just in the last week, he has asked for a internet security czar. Now, how broad could his duties be. Obama, in his speech on this, mentioned that a whole city lost their electricity because of an internet hack.
I don't remember that ever happening. This guy is scary.
This article doesn't mention the "city hack," but I know he said it, I heard him.
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
| 900 |
Tarkus289 Sat, May 30, 2009 9:23:50am |
re: #897 MandyManners
Somehow, I believe you would figure that out.
| 901 |
Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 9:24:38am |
re: #900 Tarkus289
Somehow, I believe you would figure that out.
Well she does have one son, how bad can her memory be?
/ducking
| 902 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:24:55am |
re: #889 albusteve
a league for kids, 8yrs and up....they will learn a wide spectrum of virtues...how to win and lose, sportsmanship, teamwork, effort and reward...how to clobber people
We don't have that here. But, he plays Little League, is on a swim team, is going to basketball camp and the like.
| 903 |
Tarkus289 Sat, May 30, 2009 9:25:06am |
re: #899 Walter L. Newton
Maybe it was that town that lost 10,000 citizens in the storm.
| 904 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:25:25am |
re: #890 Nevergiveup
He is gonna want to neuter my pets! What the fuc.....oh net neutrality..never mind.
*arf*
| 905 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 9:25:33am |
re: #893 NY Nana
And he gets paid for that? He is not fit to lick pat Tillman's shoes. What a tragic loss.
He chose to serve our country, when he could have kept on playing football. He is a true hero. May he rest in peace.
There are few people who's my response on meeting them would be to poke 'em in the nose. He's one of 'em.
| 906 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:25:52am |
| 907 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 9:26:28am |
re: #902 MandyManners
We don't have that here. But, he plays Little League, is on a swim team, is going to basketball camp and the like.
same thing...good for him...team sports worked wonders for my boy
| 908 |
Nevergiveup Sat, May 30, 2009 9:26:39am |
re: #905 jcm
There are few people who's my response on meeting them would be to poke 'em in the nose. He's one of 'em.
Remember that scene from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?
| 909 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 30, 2009 9:26:51am |
re: #889 albusteve
a league for kids, 8yrs and up....they will learn a wide spectrum of virtues...how to win and lose, sportsmanship, teamwork, effort and reward...how to clobber people
Ahhh...the age when you can full-on tackle someone with no pads, and both of you bounce right up again.
| 910 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:26:57am |
re: #898 albusteve
Cupid does...not to worry
Last time I saw Cupid around, I took a shot at him with my DE .50. I thought it was a scavenger.
| 911 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 9:27:17am |
re: #903 Tarkus289
Maybe it was that town that lost 10,000 citizens in the storm.
I'm trying to find the whole speech he gave. I know he made a reference to a city (not in the US) that lost it's electricity because of a hack. I heard that part of the speech on the radio. I can't find a news article that mentions it.
| 912 |
KenJen Sat, May 30, 2009 9:27:23am |
re: #897 MandyManners
I don't know what I'd do with him if I got him.
You will figure it out. Reign him in Mandy. Yee Haw.
| 913 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, May 30, 2009 9:27:45am |
re: #796 Killgore Trout
Olberman goes for the fake but accurate defense....
Mancow Addresses Accusation That His Waterboarding Was A Hoax (VIDEO)
Huh? What was fake about it? Mancow? Mancow's head? The water?
| 914 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:28:24am |
re: #899 Walter L. Newton
Just in the last week, he has asked for a internet security czar. Now, how broad could his duties be. Obama, in his speech on this, mentioned that a whole city lost their electricity because of an internet hack.
I don't remember that ever happening. This guy is scary.
This article doesn't mention the "city hack," but I know he said it, I heard him.
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
Doesn't the FCC already keep tabs on the Internet? The FBI? This would be just another concentration of power in the hands of one of his lackeys.
| 915 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 9:28:27am |
re: #882 MandyManners
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
Groucho Marx
Always loved that quote!
| 916 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:29:07am |
| 917 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 30, 2009 9:30:08am |
re: #905 jcm
There are few people who's my response on meeting them would be to poke 'em in the nose. He's one of 'em.
While I can in no way advocate violence on Charles' blog, I wouldn't actually go so far as to intervene if you did that. (We're talking about Rall, right?)
| 919 |
vxbush Sat, May 30, 2009 9:30:54am |
Okay, I have got to take a break. I've made the beds, cleaned the litterboxes, swept, mopped, and at least three other things I can't think of now. I think I deserve a small break.
| 920 |
albusteve Sat, May 30, 2009 9:31:28am |
re: #911 Walter L. Newton
I'm trying to find the whole speech he gave. I know he made a reference to a city (not in the US) that lost it's electricity because of a hack. I heard that part of the speech on the radio. I can't find a news article that mentions it.
there is no question in my mind that BO would tinker with free speech or worse....there have been signs as you say and should not be taken lightly...it has nothing to do with paranoia or conspiricy...do not underestimate this guy, he is a natural thug with a plan
| 921 |
vxbush Sat, May 30, 2009 9:32:12am |
re: #918 MandyManners
Gonnna' read Walter's No. 899. bbiab
Regarding the city hack: I know that the northeast grid came down because of operator error, but I have heard nothing about a city losing power due to a hack. That would have ended up on Slashdot and Gizmodo, unless it was classified.
| 922 |
jcm Sat, May 30, 2009 9:32:17am |
re: #917 SanFranciscoZionist
While I can in no way advocate violence on Charles' blog, I wouldn't actually go so far as to intervene if you did that. (We're talking about Rall, right?)
Yeah.
That wouldn't be violence, it would be a autonomic neuromuscular response to the site of something vile beyond words......
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vxbush Sat, May 30, 2009 9:34:23am |
re: #920 albusteve
there is no question in my mind that BO would tinker with free speech or worse....there have been signs as you say and should not be taken lightly...it has nothing to do with paranoia or conspiricy...do not underestimate this guy, he is a natural thug with a plan
You have heard about what the White House is doing about criticisms of the porkulus bill, yes? I'd like an independent source for this, but I don't have one yet.
| 924 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:34:27am |
Concentration of power. That's what FCBBHO is all about.
| 925 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 9:34:49am |
re: #914 MandyManners
Doesn't the FCC already keep tabs on the Internet? The FBI? This would be just another concentration of power in the hands of one of his lackeys.
Yes, and every federal agency has a computer security chief, and the government already has policies in effect. And private business does too. And there is a lot of coordination between private business, government and other interested parties in regards to internet (and computer) security.
When I worked for the DOE, there were bulletins that would come from DC, and you had ex-amount of hours to implement the security measures outlined in the bulletins. My point being, there is already check and balances in the federal government for security concerns. Why a czar?
| 926 |
SanFranciscoZionist Sat, May 30, 2009 9:34:50am |
re: #913 Jimmah
Huh? What was fake about it? Mancow? Mancow's head? The water?
The impression I've gotten from a couple of these bits-o-news is that they got in a guy who didn't actually know the technique. Just an obliging serviceman who figured anyone could pour water on a guy.
| 927 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 9:35:45am |
re: #858 gtrs
that whole "affair" was so incredibly dumb(and not a national issue in my view); i got blasted on kos for saying that "we" looked silly even discussing it without any FACTS(to be fair, MANY on kos agreed with me and it died out pretty quickly but there were some wacky few over there that thought it was somehow good politics)
One of the reasons why I say kos, MoveOn, and HuffPo--in the comments section-- are our side's equivalent of Free Republic or the comment section at HotAir, etc.
Those sites incubate and encourage wackos. Pretty awful.
what lib or progressive blogs do you read?
and which ones do you know of that have a cool comment section with intelligent liberals, where conservatives, independents, and moderates could hang out and join the discussion?
| 928 |
gtrs Sat, May 30, 2009 9:36:07am |
re: #899 Walter L. Newton it happened in cali. just a short time ago
| 929 |
debutaunt Sat, May 30, 2009 9:36:48am |
re: #890 Nevergiveup
He is gonna want to neuter my pets! What the fuc.....oh net neutrality..never mind.
HE SAID NET!
| 930 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Sat, May 30, 2009 9:37:01am |
re: #926 SanFranciscoZionist
The impression I've gotten from a couple of these bits-o-news is that they got in a guy who didn't actually know the technique. Just an obliging serviceman who figured anyone could pour water on a guy.
But if it had been done 'properly' - it would have been even worse, surely?
| 931 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:37:04am |
re: #923 vxbush
You have heard about what the White House is doing about criticisms of the porkulus bill, yes? I'd like an independent source for this, but I don't have one yet.
Talk about your chilling effect!
| 932 |
vxbush Sat, May 30, 2009 9:37:38am |
re: #925 Walter L. Newton
Yes, and every federal agency has a computer security chief, and the government already has policies in effect. And private business does too. And there is a lot of coordination between private business, government and other interested parties in regards to internet (and computer) security.
When I worked for the DOE, there were bulletins that would come from DC, and you had ex-amount of hours to implement the security measures outlined in the bulletins. My point being, there is already check and balances in the federal government for security concerns. Why a czar?
Coordinate response with one point of contact for the president?
| 933 |
MandyManners Sat, May 30, 2009 9:37:51am |
re: #925 Walter L. Newton
Yes, and every federal agency has a computer security chief, and the government already has policies in effect. And private business does too. And there is a lot of coordination between private business, government and other interested parties in regards to internet (and computer) security.
When I worked for the DOE, there were bulletins that would come from DC, and you had ex-amount of hours to implement the security measures outlined in the bulletins. My point being, there is already check and balances in the federal government for security concerns. Why a czar?
Concentration of power.
| 934 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 9:38:44am |
re: #928 gtrs
it happened in cali. just a short time ago
Link? Details. Town. Obama made it sound like a major city OUTSIDE of the US. I still can't find a quote from his speech. For a matter of fact, most articles I have found over the last 20 minutes, any time he is talking about the power grid, they have redacted chunks of that section. I wonder why? Because he was lying about a major city loosing power due to a hack. IMHO. But, until I actually find it, I don't know.
| 935 |
vxbush Sat, May 30, 2009 9:39:14am |
re: #931 MandyManners
Talk about your chilling effect!
But, in my eyes, it isn't confirmed yet. I have no idea how they think they would do this, so I want another source.
| 936 |
vxbush Sat, May 30, 2009 9:40:02am |
re: #934 Walter L. Newton
Link? Details. Town. Obama made it sound like a major city OUTSIDE of the US. I still can't find a quote from his speech. For a matter of fact, most articles I have found over the last 20 minutes, any time he is talking about the power grid, they have redacted chunks of that section. I wonder why? Because he was lying about a major city loosing power due to a hack. IMHO. But, until I actually find it, I don't know.
I thought the White House web site listed all his speeches. If it's not there, then that's very curious, indeed. Perhaps it was an ad lib.
| 937 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 9:40:32am |
re: #932 vxbush
Coordinate response with one point of contact for the president?
I don't know. If you read the articles, this "point of contact" will be having more powers than just coordinating.
| 938 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 30, 2009 9:40:50am |
re: #887 MandyManners
If he gets a second term, I wonder if FCBBHO will go after the Fairness Doctrine (whichever name it goes by) and/or try to impose net neutrality.
With the speed Obama and the Congressional Dems have been enacting their agenda I would say even in a first term would be possible. Limbaugh and others are a thorn that needs to get clipped in their estimation. The return of FMSM hegemony will be fought for.
| 939 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sat, May 30, 2009 9:44:08am |
re: #919 vxbush
If you cleaned more than one litterbox, you automatically earn not only a break but a vacation, in my opinon, Every time you do it!
but cats own us, we don't own them. :(
| 940 |
gtrs Sat, May 30, 2009 9:44:55am |
re: #936 vxbush i haven't checked but i would think whitehouse.gov would provide the speech or at least a link
| 941 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 9:45:04am |
re: #936 vxbush
I thought the White House web site listed all his speeches. If it's not there, then that's very curious, indeed. Perhaps it was an ad lib.
Thanks for the hint, here it is...
"And this is also a matter of public safety and national security. We count on computer networks to deliver our oil and gas, our power and our water. We rely on them for public transportation and air traffic control. Yet we know that cyber intruders have probed our electrical grid and that in other countries cyber attacks have plunged entire cities into darkness."
[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]
Now, what entire city was he talking about? More research to be done.
Eureka... it's a urban legend, and it's debunked here.
"Good grief, who wrote the president’s speech today? His new cybersecurity proposal includes this urban legend: “…and that in other countries cyber attacks have plunged entire cities into darkness…” I and other experts bashed this urban legend more than a year ago. Now I’ve got President 2.0 spouting it as if it’s a fact."
[Link: vmyths.com...]
It bothers me that Obama makes these statements and yet, not true. I knew I wasn't crazy.
| 942 |
vxbush Sat, May 30, 2009 9:47:18am |
re: #939 iceweasel
If you cleaned more than one litterbox, you automatically earn not only a break but a vacation, in my opinon, Every time you do it!
but cats own us, we don't own them. :(
Two cats. Two litterboxes. Four times the cleanup duty. It follows a quadratic relationship. :D
| 943 |
gtrs Sat, May 30, 2009 9:47:22am |
re: #938 FurryOldGuyJeans
i would tend to disagree just due to a logjam of other more "important" issues on the agenda; in my view, this debate is clearly something for the second term, if EVER
| 944 |
vxbush Sat, May 30, 2009 9:49:12am |
re: #941 Walter L. Newton
Thanks for the hint, here it is...
"And this is also a matter of public safety and national security. We count on computer networks to deliver our oil and gas, our power and our water. We rely on them for public transportation and air traffic control. Yet we know that cyber intruders have probed our electrical grid and that in other countries cyber attacks have plunged entire cities into darkness."
[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]
Now, what entire city was he talking about? More research to be done.
Eureka... it's a urban legend, and it's debunked here.
"Good grief, who wrote the president’s speech today? His new cybersecurity proposal includes this urban legend: “…and that in other countries cyber attacks have plunged entire cities into darkness…” I and other experts bashed this urban legend more than a year ago. Now I’ve got President 2.0 spouting it as if it’s a fact."
[Link: vmyths.com...]
It bothers me that Obama makes these statements and yet, not true. I knew I wasn't crazy.
Excellent digging, Walter. Two big thumbs up.
Remember: Obama isn't writing these speeches himself. Last I knew, he had a twenty-something writing his speeches. Said speechwriter may feel quite comfortable searching Wikipedia for details or other odd places for information. It almost seems to me like this speechwriter doesn't have high enough clearance to check up on real facts before he starts writing.
| 945 |
gtrs Sat, May 30, 2009 9:51:23am |
re: #938 FurryOldGuyJeans another point i would make in this regard, i think rahm believes that BIG RUSH and glenn beck, hannity, et al. are in fact HELPING the president's agenda
| 946 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 9:53:07am |
re: #944 vxbush
Excellent digging, Walter. Two big thumbs up.
Remember: Obama isn't writing these speeches himself. Last I knew, he had a twenty-something writing his speeches. Said speechwriter may feel quite comfortable searching Wikipedia for details or other odd places for information. It almost seems to me like this speechwriter doesn't have high enough clearance to check up on real facts before he starts writing.
Thanks, now I can sleep better :)
A major speech by Obama on the flow of information and someone writes a speech for him that has these kind of holes in it. Well, i guess it is freedom of speech.
Over all, it shows the sloppy nature of this guy and his staff. They really are an embarrassment. And possibly a danger.
| 947 |
vxbush Sat, May 30, 2009 10:01:03am |
re: #946 Walter L. Newton
Thanks, now I can sleep better :)
A major speech by Obama on the flow of information and someone writes a speech for him that has these kind of holes in it. Well, i guess it is freedom of speech.
Over all, it shows the sloppy nature of this guy and his staff. They really are an embarrassment. And possibly a danger.
Yup. It's been demonstrated over and over. Hot Air has had a few under their "Obamateurism of the Day" posts.
| 948 |
gtrs Sat, May 30, 2009 10:28:00am |
re: #941 Walter L. Newton i read the entire speech and made some inquiries as to that particular part; if and when i get a response i will post it to you(i can only speculate for the time being but i believe that statement has some back-up or they would have simply worded it differently since a simple phrase adjustment could have implied the same notion)
| 949 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 30, 2009 10:32:48am |
re: #948 gtrs
i read the entire speech and made some inquiries as to that particular part; if and when i get a response i will post it to you(i can only speculate for the time being but i believe that statement has some back-up or they would have simply worded it differently since a simple phrase adjustment could have implied the same notion)
No it doesn't, did you see my link...
[Link: vmyths.com...]
| 950 |
Ateam Sat, May 30, 2009 10:39:19am |
re: #640 MandyManners
LOL!
One thing DickHead never tried to fault me for was my cooking.
A quick recipe, low-calories, nutritious & healthy (for 5-7 hungry people):
1 Kg fillets Pollock fishes (only net meat. without skin)
5 peeled tomatoes (1''x1'' sliced)
3 onions (chopped)
3 sweet peppers (chopped)
8 garlic tooth (cut to 6 pieces each)
2 halves lemon
1 fl. oz. olive oil (extra virgin, cold pressed)
1/2 oz. butter
thyme
dill
Parsley
salt
black hot pepper
arrange integrands in advance (8-10 minutes)
oil & butter in a big pan, medium flame (2-3 minutes. meanwhile, squeeze half lemon on fillets)
onion first (for 2 minutes), sweet pepper next, garlic, and after a min. or two - while salting & peppering - the tomato & herbs. then the fish (4 min. on the back side first, another 3 after turning down side up. use the 2d lemon's half)
served with baguette and sparkling white win
Bone appetite'
| 951 |
haakondahl Sat, May 30, 2009 10:42:09am |
| 952 |
gtrs Sat, May 30, 2009 11:16:52am |
re: #949 Walter L. Newton like i said; i can only speculate for now(it could have been EASILY worded differently to convey the same point while avoiding any conflict); i think they would have had some back-up in mind here; without knowing for sure, i would think some possibles here are 1/ during the russian attacks in georgia some of these type tactics were used to screw up communications and the like; OR possibly 2/ in a muslim country with internal strife(many of those countries have little IF ANY security protocols in place to prevent this type of shenanigans)
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