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Hold fast to dreams
For if dreams die
Life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly.

Langston Hughes

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1 Van Helsing  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:27:29pm

An open Thread! Yeah!
I don't have to maintain my usual laser-like focus on topic.

Oh. Crap. I don't do that anyway.
Damn.

2 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:27:45pm

Hurrah! The LNDT!

3 Desert Dog  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:28:14pm

New avatar ideas for Iron Fist

Nuclear Explosions

4 ggt  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:29:20pm

I awake and a new thread appears!

5 srb1976  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:29:39pm

re: #2 Fenway_Nation

Hurrah! The LNDT!

Thank goodness... = )

6 Van Helsing  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:30:17pm

re: #2 Fenway_Nation

Hurrah! The LNDT!

As if we needed affirmation...

Back to the Mickey's! (it's never been the same since they changed the design of the 'guaranteed spill' Big Mouth pull tab)

7 freetoken  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:30:34pm
Life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly.

True of too many.

8 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:31:38pm

Am I the only one who's disturbed at how little the White House and MSM have been acknowledged the shooting death of Pvt. William Long in Little Rock by an overseas-trained jihadi?

9 freetoken  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:33:52pm

re: #8 Fenway_Nation

M. Malkin seems perturbed... and some of her commenters added some disturbing comments of their own, which I brought up in the last thread.

10 srb1976  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:34:50pm

re: #8 Fenway_Nation

No, you're not the only one...

11 redc1c4  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:35:04pm

re: #8 Fenway_Nation

Am I the only one who's disturbed at how little the White House and MSM have been acknowledged the shooting death of Pvt. William Long in Little Rock by an overseas-trained jihadi?

acknowledged? the scum have ignored it...

i was hoping that trend would be thread here.

12 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:36:19pm

re: #8 Fenway_Nation

Am I the only one who's disturbed at how little the White House and MSM have been acknowledged the shooting death of Pvt. William Long in Little Rock by an overseas-trained jihadi?

I finally saw quite a bit about it on my local ABC channel tonight but the print article they had online didn't have as much info. Apparently he was already being watched by the FBI. He has also pleaded not guilty. I'll see if I can find more now.

13 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:36:38pm

re: #11 redc1c4

You and me both...

And I wouldn't have even known the soldier's name if it weren't for talk-radio.

14 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:38:09pm

re: #3 Desert Dog

New avatar ideas for Iron Fist

Nuclear Explosions

It appears that my avatar must have been crafted using this photo.

15 freetoken  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:38:27pm

Drudge is really pushing the Obama-Muslim theme... this should feed the need to post links about it on the blog-o-sphere.

The association of the Presidents non-comment on the AR shooting to his comments today (in France) really is feeding the sekrit-Muslim conspiracy talk.

16 Van Helsing  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:38:30pm

re: #8 Fenway_Nation

Am I the only one who's disturbed at how little the White House and MSM have been acknowledged the shooting death of Pvt. William Long in Little Rock by an overseas-trained jihadi?

No.
Pan-galactic comment on the death of Tiller - nada (ok, no CinC level statement) on the death of the soldier.

Can't even...

17 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:40:37pm

re: #12 Pvt Bin Jammin

Apparently he was already being watched by the FBI. He has also pleaded not guilty. I'll see if I can find more now.

Is that a fact?

Wonder what DHS Briefing Abdul-Hakim/Bledsoe was the poster boy for?

18 slokat  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:42:47pm

re: #13 Fenway_Nation

You and me both...

And I wouldn't have even known the soldier's name if it weren't for talk-radio.

Google has some news hits, plus a comparison of the coverage - Tale of Two Terrorists

19 Van Helsing  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:44:04pm

re: #17 Fenway_Nation
Islamic Rage-Boy Youtube Video target="_blank"> and Reza were offended.

20 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:44:11pm

re: #17 Fenway_Nation

Is that a fact?

Wonder what DHS Briefing Abdul-Hakim/Bledsoe was the poster boy for?

My initial gut feeling was that he was recruited in prison but I saw or read somewhere that he converted as a teenager. Here is the written report. I can't find the video that I saw earlier.

V[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

21 slokat  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:44:12pm

re: #17 Fenway_Nation

Is that a fact?

Wonder what DHS Briefing Abdul-Hakim/Bledsoe was the poster boy for?

FBI said more targets were listed

22 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:44:18pm

Anyone watching Conan with the clip of Brian Williams and Obama?

"And uh...Conan"

Yes, that's how Obama speaks, Conan!

23 ggt  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:45:11pm

weet dreams all!

24 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:45:16pm

re: #21 slokat

FBI said more targets were listed

Thanks. I knew I had seen that too but couldn't remember what the source was.

25 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:46:28pm

re: #23 ggt

weet dreams all!

You too! Good to see you, if only for a minute. Have a great day tomorrow.

26 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:48:19pm

Am I also the only one who's disturbed that after a foreign-trained Muslim convert kills a U.S. Soldier here in the United States of America, the president is going to give a speech the MSM claims will 'salvage America's reputation with the [apparently monolithic] Muslim world'?

I mean even being the self-centered fuckwit that he is, 0bama could defend his earlier position on not releasing those additional prisoner-abuse photos by saying that the Little Rock shootings were exactly what he was hoping to avoid.

Instead, nothing but silence on the matter...which to me is just as bad as him stepping in it big-time.

27 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:49:19pm

Posts #13 and #17 again...way to take one for the team, me.

28 srb1976  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:50:15pm

re: #27 Fenway_Nation

Posts #13 and #17 again...way to take one for the team, me.

That's like winning the lottery isn't it? too lucky = )

29 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:51:12pm

re: #28 srb1976

Couldn't get this lucky at the Indian casinos up the road...

30 srb1976  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:51:59pm

re: #29 Fenway_Nation

Maybe you should try Vegas? Or maybe it's just a different kind of lucky...

31 slokat  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:52:45pm

re: #30 srb1976

Maybe you should try Vegas? Or maybe it's just a different kind of lucky...

He could play "video posting"...

32 srb1976  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:53:50pm

re: #31 slokat

Nice! Didn't even think of that...

33 Silvergirl  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:53:58pm

re: #12 Pvt Bin Jammin

I finally saw quite a bit about it on my local ABC channel tonight but the print article they had online didn't have as much info. Apparently he was already being watched by the FBI. He has also pleaded not guilty. I'll see if I can find more now.

Same here. I saw it on the ABC site.

You've probably already seen Sarah Palin's comment, but maybe others haven't.

34 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:54:51pm

I wonder where "gmsc" is? Did he show up last night?

35 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:55:16pm
36 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:56:20pm

re: #33 Silvergirl

I imagine that his particularly close to home for Sarah Palin.

37 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:56:39pm

hit

/PMIF

38 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:56:58pm

re: #33 Silvergirl

Same here. I saw it on the ABC site.

You've probably already seen Sarah Palin's comment, but maybe others haven't.

I freakin' LOVE her.

39 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:57:50pm

re: #33 Silvergirl

Same here. I saw it on the ABC site.

You've probably already seen Sarah Palin's comment, but maybe others haven't.

I did see that. Timely response, I might add.

40 srb1976  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:57:57pm

re: #38 TheMatrix31

I freakin' LOVE her.

Thanks, I thought I was the only one... = )

41 srb1976  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:58:36pm

re: #37 Fenway_Nation

hit

/PMIF

Rough night for typing huh?

42 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:58:37pm

re: #35 TheMatrix31

What...the...

That is just plain scary.

43 Racer X  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:59:10pm
44 Van Helsing  Tue, Jun 2, 2009 11:59:46pm

re: #35 TheMatrix31

What...the...

Reads like a serious stupid, but may not be all that bad.
I've been told (and have seen) that some documents with security stamps are stamped so because no one in the command chain wants to be responsible for document destruction or disappearance.

45 Racer X  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:01:39am
46 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:01:40am

re: #35 TheMatrix31

What...the...

Wow, redefining "asleep at the switch"

47 Silvergirl  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:03:37am

I love the rest of the Langston Hughes poem too

Hold fast to dreams
For when dreams go
Life is a barren field
Frozen with snow.

Another of his on the subject of dreams is another favorite

What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
Like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?

I just thought of Susan Boyle when I read it over again. I feel bad for her. You know that whole crazy media build up followed by the let down. Enough to drive anyone batty. One of the news sites had a poll asking if you could handle the spotlight of reality show fame. A heavy majority said no.

48 Silvergirl  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:07:24am

re: #38 TheMatrix31

I freakin' LOVE her.

She seems very grounded. I don't consider her a religious nut. She has her beliefs but she calls a fanatic when it's fanatical.

49 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:07:43am

re: #47 Silvergirl

Poor gal. The second runner up usually gets something good out of it too. She must not have realized that.

I couldn't take that spotlight.

50 Van Helsing  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:10:53am

Well, I'm officially shocked. I've been listening to the classic rock station on cox cable and they are playing FZ 'Slime on the video'.
I may be vile and pernicious...
Zappa. Love it.

51 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:11:30am

My dream is that Palin and/or L. Cheney can unseat the Cømmunisty Ørganizer in '12.

52 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:13:46am

re: #50 Van Helsing

FZ 'Slime on the video'.
I may be vile and pernicious...
Zappa. Love it.

I'm The Slime

53 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:16:07am

Goodnight, lizards, I am out. Have a great day tomorrow.

It doesn't look like gmsc has posted since the 30th. If you see him, tell him hello from this former Nevadan.

54 Silvergirl  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:17:17am

re: #53 Pvt Bin Jammin

Goodnight, lizards, I am out. Have a great day tomorrow.

It doesn't look like gmsc has posted since the 30th. If you see him, tell him hello from this former Nevadan.

Okay, if he shows up while I'm awake.

G'night, PBJ!

55 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:20:27am

re: #54 Silvergirl

Tx.

56 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:21:32am

re: #53 Pvt Bin Jammin

G'nite PBJ!

57 zombie  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:23:20am

A stodgy old biology professor was giving a lecture on male anatomy to a freshman class. When he got to the part about which glands contribute the various constituents of semen, an innocent girl raised her hand and asked, "But aren't the testicles and the prostate gland basically the same thing?"

"No," said the professor. "There is a vas deferens between the two."

---

I've been wanting to make that joke since 1912.

58 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:25:29am

re: #57 zombie

Maybe it should've stayed on the shelf 'til 2112. ;-)

59 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:28:57am

re: #57 zombie

I thought it was funny...

60 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:29:24am

re: #59 srb1976

Thought it was a bit nutty...

61 zombie  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:29:47am

re: #59 srb1976

I thought it was funny...

Now my work is done on this planet. Thank you.

62 slokat  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:30:08am

re: #57 zombie

hmmm 100 year old zombie?

63 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:31:18am

re: #60 freetoken

No need to get testes...

64 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:31:23am

re: #51 Abu Al-Poopypants

My dream is that Palin and/or L. Cheney can unseat the Cømmunisty Ørganizer in '12.

I'm down for Cheney/Palin, but I don't know how that'd rub all the people who are brainwashed about Cheney.

65 Silvergirl  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:31:57am

What about our list of events in history that gmsc posts? I'm not here every night, but I like to stop by and see those. Now I'll have to go find them online myself. Now that he's hooked me, that history pusher.

66 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:32:20am

I didn't say it was a realistic dream.

67 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:33:14am

re: #3 Desert Dog

New avatar ideas for Iron Fist

Nuclear Explosions

...and you've just had some kind of mushroom, and your mind is moving on...

/a shroom we can all live without

68 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:33:34am

re: #65 Silvergirl


The first century's free...after that, it'll cost ya.

/MUWA-HA-HA

69 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:33:39am

re: #43 Racer X

Craig needs a friend

I love random, nonsensical humor. Your link reminds me of this "missing pet" bill posted on a telephone poll.

70 Silvergirl  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:34:14am

re: #64 TheMatrix31

I'm down for Cheney/Palin, but I don't know how that'd rub all the people who are brainwashed about Cheney.

Especially all the ageists who predicted McCain's sure and sudden demise. Cheney's health issues and age will keep him from being a contender.

71 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:34:25am

Ahahahaha @ that joke.

72 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:38:41am

re: #65 Silvergirl

What about our list of events in history that gmsc posts? I'm not here every night, but I like to stop by and see those. Now I'll have to go find them online myself. Now that he's hooked me, that history pusher.


Today in History, June 3rd:

Highlights of this day in history: Ed White is the first American to walk in space; Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini and Pope John XXIII die; Britain's Duke of Windsor weds Wallis Simpson; Poet Allen Ginsberg and entertainer Josephine Baker born.

Other notable June 3rd events include:

1800 – U.S. President John Adams takes up residence in Washington, D.C. (in a tavern – the White House was not yet completed).

1888 – The poem "Casey at the Bat", by Ernest Lawrence Thayer, is published in the San Francisco Examiner.

1965 – Launch of Gemini 4, the first multi-day space mission by a NASA crew. Crew-member Ed White performs the first American spacewalk (EVA).

2006 – The union of Serbia and Montenegro comes to an end with Montenegro's formal declaration of independence.

73 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:41:45am

Um, the Cheney that I had in mind was Liz Cheney.

74 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:41:47am

re: #72 gmsc


Jeez- where ya been, PiGuy?

By the way- the PiSignal? Worthless...

75 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:44:57am

re: #12 Pvt Bin Jammin

I finally saw quite a bit about it on my local ABC channel tonight but the print article they had online didn't have as much info. Apparently he was already being watched by the FBI. He has also pleaded not guilty. I'll see if I can find more now.

Interesting. I hadn't heard about prior FBI involvement. It raises the question: what else might be going on?

As far as the "not guilty" plea, that's required in murder cases, at least around here. If you try to plead otherwise, the judge will override and enter "not guilty" for you, in an effort to ensure that this most serious of crimes is given all the legal scrutiny it deserves.

76 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:45:23am

re: #74 Fenway_Nation

Jeez- where ya been, PiGuy?

By the way- the PiSignal? Worthless...

The PiSignal?!?

I've had a few major problems in real life to deal with, and honestly, I wasn't honestly sure if I'd ever be able to get back to LGF.

It's nothing I want to go into detail about, but the major hurdles are done with, and little hurdles could still screw things up (so don't be suprised if I disappear again).

For now, though, everything should be OK.

Looking back through the archives, it seems I've missed some interesting events, though.

77 Silvergirl  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:46:01am

re: #72 gmsc

Well done! I just got back from looking around and read that June 3rd in '89 was the start of the crackdown at Tiananmen.

With protests for democratic reforms entering their seventh week, the Chinese government authorizes its soldiers and tanks to reclaim Beijing's Tiananmen Square at all costs. By nightfall on June 4, Chinese troops had forcibly cleared the square, killing hundreds and arresting thousands of demonstrators and suspected dissidents.

Pvt Bin Jammin says hello at #53.

78 Summersong  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:47:38am

Hold fast to dreams
For if dreams die
Life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly.

— Langston Hughes

My Dear Mr. Langston,

Don't be so rigid and unimaginative. Many of us have learned to fly despite our broken wings.

79 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:47:51am

re: #77 Silvergirl

Well done! I just got back from looking around and read that June 3rd in '89 was the start of the crackdown at Tiananmen.

Pvt Bin Jammin says hello at #53.

I was just reading that (OK, I have an ego, I searched through the page for "gmsc")!

Tell PBJ hello for me, unless I see her first!

80 Silvergirl  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:48:54am

re: #74 Fenway_Nation

Jeez- where ya been, PiGuy?

By the way- the PiSignal? Worthless...

PiGuy. Yeah, so I guess he's heard the one about the roundest knight at King Arthur's round table. Sir Cumference. He acquired his size from too much pi. Go ahead, it's worth a down ding.

81 Silvergirl  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:51:29am

re: #73 Abu Al-Poopypants

Um, the Cheney that I had in mind was Liz Cheney.

Okay then, yeah!

82 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:53:20am

re: #80 Silvergirl

PiGuy. Yeah, so I guess he's heard the one about the roundest knight at King Arthur's round table. Sir Cumference. He acquired his size from too much pi. Go ahead, it's worth a down ding.

You think your Sir Cumference jokes are bad? I'm guessing you're not familiar with all the books in the Sir Cumference series, then . . .

83 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:53:24am

re: #76 gmsc

welcome back... hope you are able to resolve the "little" issues.

84 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:54:14am

re: #57 zombie

A stodgy old biology professor was giving a lecture on male anatomy to a freshman class. When he got to the part about which glands contribute the various constituents of semen, an innocent girl raised her hand and asked, "But aren't the testicles and the prostate gland basically the same thing?"

"No," said the professor. "There is a vas deferens between the two."

---

I've been wanting to make that joke since 1912.

a seminal joke if there ever was one...

85 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:55:40am

re: #83 freetoken

welcome back... hope you are able to resolve the "little" issues.

After the big issues, the little ones should be a breeze (if this were a movie, this is when the character who says this starts finding the little problems are bigger than he thought).

86 Silvergirl  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:58:41am

re: #82 gmsc

You think your Sir Cumference jokes are bad? I'm guessing you're not familiar with all the books in the Sir Cumference series, then . . .

Those are news to me. It's smart to make learning math as intriguing as possible for kids, and knights are always a draw.

87 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:00:50am

as a non sequiter, LeePro says hello.

we chatted on FaceBook today, and she asked that i say hello to the LNDT for her.

88 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:01:28am

Jeez- Central Manitoba Rail has had the same SD40-2 for sale for awhile now.

It's probably in good working order, but if you're in the market for a locomotive with the horsepower and tractive effort of an SD40-2, you'd probably want to buy more than one at a time. In which case, Burlington Northern Santa Fe, Canadian Pacific, Union Pacific, Canadian National, Kansas City Southern or the other class 1 railway operators would be more than willing to part with some of their now idle SD40-2s.

89 Silvergirl  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:02:49am

The attack of the heavy eyelids.
Good-night lizards.

90 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:04:18am

re: #89 Silvergirl

The attack of the heavy eyelids.
Good-night lizards.

G'nite, Silvergirl!

91 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:04:54am

re: #72 gmsc

Today in History, June 3rd:

1888 – The poem "Casey at the Bat", by Ernest Lawrence Thayer, is published in the San Francisco Examiner.

As it happened, this week in 1888, a vaudevillian by the name of William De Wolf Hopper, happened to be taking some time off from his show in New York, and was visiting San Francisco.

He read "Casey at the Bat" when it was first published, and it amused him enough that he clipped it out, and kept it with him.

It was either later that same year (1888), or early the following year, that the manager of the vaudeville show mentioned that in 1 week, the Brooklyn Dodgers (yes, Brooklyn) would be attending the show, and asked if all the acts could work in something about baseball for their acts that night.

It was then that Hopper first found a use for "Casey at the Bat", and he memorized it and recited it in a comedic way. It brought the house down that night!

It was just as successful when he tried it on regular audiences, and it became the feature of his act, as well as what he was largely known for! As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for Hopper, a vaudevillian most people have never heard of, you probably wouldn't know about "Casey at the Bat" today!

Hopper died in 1936, but did manage to record his version of "Casey at the Bat" in 1911. The video below is a rare 78 RPM recording of Hopper's 1911 performance. Sure, it seems "overperformed" by today's standards, but it is fascinating to listen to it nonetheless:

92 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:08:08am

And as a side note, shame on Central Manitoba Railway management for stealing the Buffalo Sabres logo.

/THATS where I saw it before!

93 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:14:02am

Speaking of the Tianamen Square square anniversary; China Blocks Twitter, Hotmail Access in Advance of Tianamen Anniversary.

"This is so frustrating. Now I feel China is exactly the same as Iran," said a financial professional and avid Twitter user in Shanghai, referring to Iran's May ban of popular social networking site Facebook.

94 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:14:10am

re: #87 redc1c4

Give 'er a hug from me.

95 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:16:08am

gmsc! gmsc! gmsc!

96 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:16:40am

re: #95 littleoldlady

gmsc! gmsc! gmsc!

littleoldlady! littleoldlady! littleoldlady!

97 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:18:19am

Where did you disappear to, my magician friend?

98 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:19:40am

re: #97 littleoldlady

Where did you disappear to, my magician friend?

Basically . . .

re: #76 gmsc

I've had a few major problems in real life to deal with, and honestly, I wasn't honestly sure if I'd ever be able to get back to LGF.

It's nothing I want to go into detail about, but the major hurdles are done with, and little hurdles could still screw things up (so don't be suprised if I disappear again).

For now, though, everything should be OK.

Looking back through the archives, it seems I've missed some interesting events, though.

99 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:21:02am

Dayum! :-( Do you need a hug?

{[{[{[{gmsc!}]}]}]}

100 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:21:17am

re: #91 gmsc

It was then that Hopper first found a use for "Casey at the Bat", and he memorized it and recited it in a comedic way. It brought the house down that night!

It was just as successful when he tried it on regular audiences, and it became the feature of his act, as well as what he was largely known for! As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for Hopper, a vaudevillian most people have never heard of, you probably wouldn't know about "Casey at the Bat" today!

Hopper died in 1936, but did manage to record his version of "Casey at the Bat" in 1911. The video below is a rare 78 RPM recording of Hopper's 1911 performance. Sure, it seems "overperformed" by today's standards, but it is fascinating to listen to it nonetheless:

How would "Casey at the Bat" be treated by the modern-day equivalent of vaudevillians? Well, let's ask Penn & Teller . . .

101 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:21:40am

re: #99 littleoldlady

Dayum! :-( Do you need a hug?

{[{[{[{gmsc!}]}]}]}

Thanks – that helps very much!

102 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:22:28am

Hi, gmsc. Hope everything works out well. Welcome back!

103 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:23:41am

re: #102 BatGuano

Hi, gmsc. Hope everything works out well. Welcome back!

Howdy, BatGuano!

We'll see, but everything seems fine for now.

104 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:25:25am

re: #98 gmsc

Sorry to hear you've been having troubles...hope everything gets better

105 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:26:26am

It helps? Really? Hmmm...

106 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:27:50am

re: #103 gmsc

Good. I hailed you few mornings ago.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

107 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:31:05am

Hope you're alright, GM.

At least, I hope you're better than the other GM!

108 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:32:31am

re: #107 TheMatrix31

Hope you're alright, GM.

At least, I hope you're better than the other GM!

Until 72.5% of me is given away to the UAW, I'm definitely better off than the other GM (fewer debts, too!).

109 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:34:26am

Heck! Even I have fewer debts than Government Motors!

/wow. there it is! the silver lining! I found it!

;-)

110 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:35:10am

re: #103 gmsc

Hope it stays that way, too.

111 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:37:03am

re: #110 Fenway_Nation

Hope it stays that way, too.

Me, too.

112 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:37:48am

Well I'm very glad you are back, gmsc! The place ain't the same without you.

/who would do our math if you went away?

;-)

113 BignJames  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:38:44am

re: #112 littleoldlady

Well I'm very glad you are back, gmsc! The place ain't the same without you.

/who would do our math if you went away?

;-)

Texas Instruments?

114 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:40:04am

re: #72 gmsc

I was ten years old when Ed White's spacewalk took place. I cut out the picture from the newspaper and pasted it in a scrapbook I kept until it was destroyed in a house fire in 1971.
There were giants in those days.

115 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:40:31am

BignJames! :-)

Batteries not included.

116 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:44:06am

re: #112 littleoldlady

Well I'm very glad you are back, gmsc! The place ain't the same without you.

/who would do our math if you went away?

;-)

Did I miss that much math while I was gone?

117 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:45:39am

re: #113 BignJames


Funny you should mention Texas Instruments. I was waxing nostalgic on my TI 1750 (circa 1982) on some thread recently.

118 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:48:06am

Now this GP9 that Central Manitoba Railway has put up for sale is much more ideally suited for short-haul railways, despite being about 25 years older than the SD40-2 they have up for sale.

119 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:48:07am

re: #116 gmsc

I dunno. I missed a coupla days myself.

/there's always math
//Math is Forever

120 BignJames  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:48:20am

re: #117 BatGuano

Funny you should mention Texas Instruments. I was waxing nostalgic on my TI 1750 (circa 1982) on some thread recently.


My first was a Nat. Semiconductor 5 function LED...those things ate 9v batteries.

121 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:52:43am

re: #120 BignJames

My first was a Nat. Semiconductor 5 function LED...those things ate 9v batteries.

I don't remember what batteries mine used but it was stolen ( they took the calculator but left my jacket) and I bought another 1750.

122 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:54:19am

Somebody stole a calculator?

/wow. math thief!

123 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:55:30am

Help! I need a cosign fix!

Got functions?

Gimme some pi!

124 BignJames  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:56:35am

re: #122 littleoldlady

Somebody stole a calculator?

/wow. math thief!

Nearly as hot as cell phones...back in the day.

125 leereyno  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:56:58am

Take, these broken wings
and learn to fly again
learn to live so free

When we hear
the voices sing
the book of love will open up
for us and let us in

yeah!

126 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:58:13am

re: #122 littleoldlady

Somebody stole a calculator?

/wow. math thief!

Back when electronic calculators were first relieving math students of their slide rules, stealing an electronic calculator was akin to stealing an iPhone today.

127 BignJames  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:59:23am

Is Indonesia one of the 57 states?

128 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:59:23am

If you guys say so, I believe you.

/I did math with an abacus, after all...

129 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:59:32am

I remember something I haven't enjoyed since I was lat here . . . fruitcup!

130 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:59:41am

re: #123 littleoldlady

Help! I need a cosign fix!

Got functions?

Gimme some pi!

No pi (sigh)

The calculator was $14.00, the Levi jacket was 20.

131 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:00:18am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

132 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:00:25am

re: #128 littleoldlady

Did the Muslims discover the concept of 0bama Zero yet when you were young, LoL?

133 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:00:34am

re: #131 littleoldlady

Thanks!

134 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:00:46am

Thank you littleoldlady!

135 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:00:58am

re: #131 littleoldlady

Thanks

/Better late than never :P

136 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:01:12am

re: #131 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Thank you! Absence makes the fruitcup yummier!

137 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:01:46am

:18 seconds. Tsk, tsk.

138 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:01:54am

I hope they're working on an 'Incredibles' sequel. I want to see more Edna.

139 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:03:10am

Fenway! :-)

Be careful sonny, or I'll trot out my Two Thousand Year Old Man Woman routine! ;-)

Sharmuta! :-)

BatGuano! :-)

gmsc! :-)

140 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:03:13am

re: #131 littleoldlady

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->

Mighty colorful of you this morning, LoL!

Reminds me of the parrot in Wild Women of Wongo.

/The "Film Crew" version is done by the folks who did MST3K.

141 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:04:07am

re: #136 gmsc

Thank you! Absence makes the fruitcup yummier!

You put absinthe in it? no wonder it's yummy.

142 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:04:24am

re: #138 Sharmuta

I hope they're working on an 'Incredibles' sequel. I want to see more Edna.

Edna Mode was hilarious! They took Edith Head's attitude, and gave it to an Ayn Rand caricature!

(Ayn Rand and Edith Head actually worked together quite a bit on costumes.)

“Your dresses should be tight enough to show you're a woman and loose enough to show you're a lady.”
-Edith Head

143 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:05:25am

re: #140 freetoken

Mighty colorful of you this morning, LoL!

Reminds me of the parrot in Wild Women of Wongo.

/The "Film Crew" version is done by the folks who did MST3K.

Uh oh! Chongo! It's Danger Island!

144 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:07:42am

re: #140 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

Photoshop 'R Us!™

145 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:11:12am

re: #142 gmsc

Where have you been, Dahling?

146 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:12:06am

re: #142 gmsc

You came up with that in three seconds. What deal did you make with who? Could it be...SATAN?

147 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:12:26am

re: #145 Sharmuta

Where have you been, Dahling?

I may have to keep the link to post #76 handy over the next few days . . .
;)

re: #76 gmsc

The PiSignal?!?

I've had a few major problems in real life to deal with, and honestly, I wasn't honestly sure if I'd ever be able to get back to LGF.

It's nothing I want to go into detail about, but the major hurdles are done with, and little hurdles could still screw things up (so don't be suprised if I disappear again).

For now, though, everything should be OK.

Looking back through the archives, it seems I've missed some interesting events, though.

148 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:14:41am

re: #146 BatGuano

You came up with that in three seconds. What deal did you make with who? Could it be...SATAN?

What can I say? I not only read Ayn Rand, I also read about Ayn Rand.

Plus, when I first saw Edna, I had to check if the resemblance was more than just a coincidence.

149 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:15:52am

I shoulda been in bed about an hour ago, but I stumbled across some new job openings posted on the state unemployment webiste.

BTW...job opening in another window in Mobile, AL. Briefly chatted with Jake Peavy about dining out in Southern Alabama a few years ago. Wonder if any lizards might be able to give me some informed opinions about that part of the country aside from the dining.

150 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:17:55am

re: #148 gmsc

'The Incredibles' is just a great film. It's funny, it's action packed, exciting, heart warming- something for everyone. Very charming, and so much material for a sequel, I can't believe there isn't one planned.

151 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:18:04am

re: #149 Fenway_Nation

Let me know if you run across anything for an online fruitcup server.

It's HOT in Alabama. And they have kudzu there.

152 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:18:10am

...and now, some rather bizarre entertainment to watch while you enjoy your fruitcup!

153 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:18:37am

re: #148 gmsc

I've never seen " The Incredibles" so I don't know who Edna is. I am surprised that anyone remembers Edith Head. Despite all her literary faults, I love Ayn Rand.

154 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:19:33am
“Your dresses should be tight enough to show you're a woman and loose enough to show you're a lady.”

Kinda sums up the appeal of vintage pin-ups for me.

155 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:19:45am

re: #152 gmsc

How about some Pixar entertainment with fruitcup?

156 FamHistoryGuy  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:20:08am

re: #120 BignJames

Yashica Pickey c1969. Four function and ate AA batteries.

157 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:20:10am

re: #151 littleoldlady


Kudzu's a fruit?

158 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:20:41am

re: #150 Sharmuta

'The Incredibles' is just a great film. It's funny, it's action packed, exciting, heart warming- something for everyone. Very charming, and so much material for a sequel, I can't believe there isn't one planned.

Do you think it could warm my heart? I didn't cry when Old Yeller died. ;)

159 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:21:31am

Monsters Inc:

160 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:21:57am

re: #155 Sharmuta

How about some Pixar entertainment with fruitcup?

Good idea. However, I have one slight adjustment, to help with this:
re: #153 BatGuano

I've never seen " The Incredibles" so I don't know who Edna is. I am surprised that anyone remembers Edith Head. Despite all her literary faults, I love Ayn Rand.

Edna Mode scene 1

Edna Mode scene 2

(Sorry - embedding disabled on both videos)

161 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:23:21am

re: #157 Fenway_Nation

Kudzu's a fruit?

Salad!

162 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:23:32am

re: #149 Fenway_Nation

I shoulda been in bed about an hour ago, but I stumbled across some new job openings posted on the state unemployment webiste.

BTW...job opening in another window in Mobile, AL. Briefly chatted with Jake Peavy about dining out in Southern Alabama a few years ago. Wonder if any lizards might be able to give me some informed opinions about that part of the country aside from the dining.

I am on the other end of the state, but it's gorgeous country, and don't believe everything you hear about the south

163 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:25:37am

re: #150 Sharmuta


Better than the Wild Women of Wongo, no doubt... but the "Film Crew" version WWoW does get pretty funny at times.

Strangely, The Incredibles reminded me of Bob Newhart for some reason.

164 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:26:15am

re: #143 gmsc

love the music

165 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:26:21am

re: #155 Sharmuta

Mmm. fruitcup and Mozart!

166 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:27:42am

re: #160 gmsc

Next time put them in two separate comments so I can ding it twice. ;)

167 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:28:50am

re: #162 srb1976

I've been to Georgia a couple of times before I was even stationed there. I remember this lasy who worked at the headquarters of one small railway in Western Georgia allowing me to climb up and take a look at some sidelined locomotives if I'd buy a candy bar for her daughter's school band fundraiser.

Columbus, Augusta, Savannah and to a lesser extent, Atlanta, are somewhat familiar to me. As for Alabama, I hadn't ventured too far off of I-10.

168 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:29:27am

lady...

PIMF

169 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:31:05am

Thanks, LoL. I hope the Fruitcup comes with a special time travel device today. A DeLorean, perhaps?

170 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:31:42am

re: #167 Fenway_Nation

For what it's worth, the Mobile/Gulf Shores area is a pretty popular vacation spot for folks in my neck of the woods... More expensive to live there than here (beachfront and all) and hurricane prone but nice area

171 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:32:19am

re: #160 gmsc

Those aren't even the best parts. I love her phone call with Elastagirl and then at the end of their visit when she hits her with the newspaper. lol

172 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:32:55am

Mater and the Ghostlight:

173 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:32:58am

Matrix! :-)

For all nighters I recommend ...

...well, nevermind what I recommend!

/my kid reads this site! ;-)

174 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:34:32am

Hey cool late night people! Hope everyone is well today.

Embarrassing video of the day:

Q. Imagine, if you will, 2 clueless white guys from Dartmouth making a rap video. How could that get worse?
A. They could be rapping tea party talking points.

Meet the Young Cons!

Sample lyric:

"Three things taught me conservative love:
Jesus, Ronald Reagan, plus Atlas Shrugged
Saving our nation from inflation devastation
On my hands and my knees praying for salvation”

It's too painful to watch all the way through. I mean that. I had to look away.

175 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:36:12am

re: #160 gmsc

I seere: #148 gmsc

I see what you mean.

Image: edithhead.jpg

176 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:36:44am

re: #170 srb1976

For these job postings in Mobile, I'm a little curious as to why they haven't been filled yet. Or maybe they have been filled and they haven't had a chance to removing the notice yet.

/I'm old enough to remember Morrison's Cafeteria. Does that date me too badly?

177 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:37:37am

re: #173 littleoldlady

Matrix! :-)

For all nighters I recommend ...

...well, nevermind what I recommend!

/my kid reads this site! ;-)

Eh, not an all-nighter. I just have to read a stupid book (one of two, plus an annoying article) for an essay to write on Friday. I also have a Final in my "Israeli Identity" class (I've learned more about Israel on LGF than that class, btw) on Thursday, so I want to get some of that reading out of the way.

The first line of the book I'm reading right now, called "I'Jaam, An Iraqi Rhapsody"?

---"Two clouds kissed silently in the Baghdad sky."

Ridiculous.

178 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:37:47am

re: #166 Sharmuta

Next time put them in two separate comments so I can ding it twice. ;)

OK!

Edna Mode scene 3

179 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:38:17am

re: #174 iceweasel

Hi, iceweasel!

180 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:39:25am

re: #177 TheMatrix31

I know! I've learned more about Israel here than being Jewish all my life.

;-)

181 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:39:28am

re: #176 Fenway_Nation

Without any idea when they were posted or what kind of work, I wouldn't even hazard a guess...

We've only been down that way a couple of times, and not at all since the last round of bad hurricanes, so I guess that should serve as a disclaimer...

Spent more time in Orange Beach than Mobile proper, although better half went through the big tunnel every chance he got = )

182 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:39:46am

re: #177 TheMatrix31

"If you could be an IED, what kind of IED would you be?"

/Baba Wawa

183 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:39:47am

Howdy, iceweasel! :-)

184 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:40:29am

re: #174 iceweasel

You probably lasted longer than I did. :)

185 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:41:37am

re: #181 srb1976

Warehousing and transportation, mostly...a couple with the Port of Mobile/Alabama State Docks.

There's near double-digit inflation where I'm at right now, so I tend to think it's just as bad elsewhere when that may not be the case.

186 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:43:14am

inflation

unemployment

/PIMF is my long-lost friend.

187 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:43:16am

re: #174 iceweasel

All those other Slim Shadys are just imitating.

188 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:43:35am

re: #185 Fenway_Nation

I couldn't say about Mobile, but to be perfectly honest, the only real difference I've noticed personally (economy-wise) is that work is slower paced, and my grocery bill is a little higher...so I really have nothing to offer on that front (and used WAY to many words to tell you that )

189 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:45:14am

re: #183 littleoldlady
Can I have some Fruitcup and claim it on expenses ?

( The current long running story in the British Media : How our MPs have been claiming all manner of frivolous stuff like a Duck Shelter on their garden pond as 'essential parliamentary expenses'.)

190 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:45:37am

Oh NO they di'n't:

191 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:46:27am

re: #186 Fenway_Nation

That makes a difference...I'm fairly certain (but can't check since job related searches are blocked at work) that AL unemployment is lower than the nat'l average...just can't give you numbers

192 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:46:28am

Pass The Moonbaticide! :-)

Sure, why not? I do! ;-)

Yeah, that story made the news here, too.

193 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:46:48am

OK lizards, I churned out a few more photocopies of my DMV printout to take with me tomorrow.

Need to will myself to sleep for my once-a-week gig later on today.

Weet dreams!

194 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:47:43am

re: #182 Fenway_Nation

"If you could be an IED, what kind of IED would you be?"

/Baba Wawa

I'd like to rocket propel my ass to the middle of next week!

195 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:47:46am

re: #193 Fenway_Nation

Nite...and good luck with the search!

196 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:48:05am

'Night, Fenway, and good luck! :-)

/let's see if he means it... ;-)

197 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:48:14am

re: #192 littleoldlady
Incidentally, the Duck Pond thingy was claimed by my OWN MP , Peter Viggers (Conservative) representing Gosport !

198 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:48:54am

For Sharmuta:

Lifted

199 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:51:24am

re: #187 Sharmuta

All those other Slim Shadys are just imitating.

They could be workin' at Burger King, spittin' on your onion rings...

200 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:51:35am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Hey littleoldlady! I hope you're well today.

re: #179 BatGuano

hiya, BatGuano. Always a pleasure to see you.

I couldn't watch that video for long!--it's so mock-worthy that the laughter crosses over into sheer pity and embarrassment very quickly. As much as you start out laughing at them, you wind up crying on the inside for them. Ouch.

201 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:52:10am

For littleoldlady, Sharmuta and FOR THE BIRDS:

202 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:52:30am

re: #197 Pass The Moonbaticide

Gooseport? ;-)

203 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:52:47am

re: #193 Fenway_Nation

So long Fenway! (loved your baba wawa crack, btw)

204 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:53:39am

re: #193 Fenway_Nation

OK lizards, I churned out a few more photocopies of my DMV printout to take with me tomorrow.

Need to will myself to sleep for my once-a-week gig later on today.

Weet dreams!

Good night and good luck, Fenway!

205 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:55:05am

re: #193 Fenway_Nation

Good luck Fenway.

206 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:56:23am

re: #202 littleoldlady
Locals debate whether it is short for 'Gooseport", as there are loads of Geese indigenous to the area. , or whether it comes from our town's motto : "God's Port , Our Haven". I think I prefer the latter.

207 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:58:37am

Good night, all!

Good to see you all again!

208 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:59:22am

re: #207 gmsc

Good night.

209 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 2:59:36am

re: #207 gmsc

Good night, all!

Good to see you all again!

Good night, gmsc! Y'all come back now, ya' hear?

210 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:00:10am

Sharmuta , You still here ?

211 gmsc  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:00:14am

re: #209 BatGuano

Good night, gmsc! Y'all come back now, ya' hear?

I'll definitely try!

212 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:00:18am

re: #206 Pass The Moonbaticide

Don't blame you! Canadian geese congregate in a cemetery a few blocks from here. The smell of goosepoop can really permeate a neighborhood even that far away...

/P.U.!

213 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:00:34am

re: #207 gmsc

Good night, all!

Good to see you all again!

Watch for the Bat signal. :)

214 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:00:46am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

Glad you're back!

215 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:01:56am

Good night, GM!

216 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:02:02am

re: #213 BatGuano
I see the Bat Signal every time I post !

217 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:02:48am

re: #210 Pass The Moonbaticide

Sharmuta , You still here ?

Yes

218 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:04:27am

re: #217 Sharmuta
I had a peep on the stalker blog recently.
They've got a high opinion of you , don't they ?
Esp. one there called Speranza !
I wonder why you get particular hate postings ?

219 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:07:42am

Steve Doocey is talking on Fox. I turned the TV off. Whew!

220 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:10:44am

re: #218 Pass The Moonbaticide

You would think people had a better use for their time. That they don't is pathetic.

221 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:12:11am

Morning Lizards.

222 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:13:05am

re: #221 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Good morning rightside!

223 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:14:24am

rightside! :-)

224 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:14:57am

re: #220 Sharmuta
I tried to register for comments. I am thoroughly fed up of their calling of Charles as "Chuckles". Are they schoolground infants ? I wanted to tell them to grow up and discuss issues like adults. However, their Registration page refused me Ten times on the 'Verification Code' thingy, even when the code was all-numbers and as clear as day.
It's as if they know in advance who the ones likely to challenge them are.

225 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:16:31am

re: #221 rightside

Mornin' rightside!

226 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:17:52am

re: #222 BatGuano

re: #223 littleoldlady

re: #225 srb1976

BG!

lol!

srb!

227 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:18:04am

re: #224 Pass The Moonbaticide

It's a waste of your time anyways.

228 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:21:14am

re: #227 Sharmuta
Every site needs a Troll for the Loyalists to circle around like vultures.
I thought I coulkd provide this service for them to fell united about.
... And we'd see how long their 'We never ban anyone' BS lasted.

229 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:21:40am

re: #221 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Hey rightside. What part of the world are you in?

230 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:22:17am

re: #228 Pass The Moonbaticide

SOmeone was trolling over there a week or two ago. It was kind of funny.

231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:22:20am

re: #3 Desert Dog

New avatar ideas for Iron Fist

Nuclear Explosions

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232 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:22:43am

re: #228 Pass The Moonbaticide
Whoops ... I'll repost that.

Every site needs a Troll for the Loyalists to circle around like vultures.
I thought I could provide this service for them to feel united about.
... And we'd see how long their 'We never ban anyone' BS lasted.

233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:23:45am

re: #219 BatGuano

Steve and Brian... How did they find two equally dense guys? To me, they are the same guy.

234 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:24:33am

re: #229 BatGuano

I'm in Virginia, and you?

235 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:25:02am

re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You're right. I don't understand the TV business.

236 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:26:48am

re: #234 rightside

I'm in Virginia, and you?

(Why did I guess Virginia?). I'm in Santa Clara, California.

237 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:29:16am

re: #234 rightside

I love your 90,000 tons of diplomacy!

238 srb1976  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:30:24am

re: #237 BatGuano

I love your 90,000 tons of diplomacy!

I have to chime in just to echo that sentiment...gorgeous

239 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:30:25am

re: #237 BatGuano

The first question usually asked by a president, when an international crisis breaks out it, "Where is the nearest carrier?"

240 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:32:00am

re: #239 rightside

"Usually" appears to be a thing of the past. :-( :-( :-(

241 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:32:35am

re: #187 Sharmuta

All those other Slim Shadys are just imitating.

I should have worded it differently.

242 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:33:46am

re: #239 rightside

The first question usually asked by a president, when an international crisis breaks out it, "Where is the nearest carrier?"

Abso'friggin' lutely! (pardon my Anglo-Saxon). An Aircraft Carrier can strike swiftly at a moments notice. God bless 'em.

243 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:35:32am

re: #240 littleoldlady

I chose my words carefully.

Unfortunately, I didn't type them carefully... it=is

244 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:36:16am

re: #239 rightside

The first question usually asked by a president, when an international crisis breaks out it, "Where is the nearest carrier?"


The current President is more apt to ask where is the closest mosque.

245 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:36:35am

re: #239 rightside

The first question usually asked by a president, when an international crisis breaks out it, "Where is the nearest carrier?"

Excuse me if I'm being to political, but I'm afraid Obama might ask, "Where is the nearest diplomat?".

246 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:36:40am

re: #236 BatGuano
You might be interested that California are advertising on British TV at the moment. I think it's for tourism, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was to recruit further inhabitants to replace those leaving because of the confiscatory Taxes, Moonbat infestations, etc.
You probably know the commercial : Eg A Surfer holds his Surfboard and says "We have Board Meetings ... Lots of Board Meetings" as though he were a businessman. No wonder that State's in a mess, if it's all Fun, Fun, Fun and no Work, Work, Work.

247 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:38:15am

re: #246 Pass The Moonbaticide


You might be interested that California are advertising on British TV at the moment. I think it's for tourism, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was to recruit further inhabitants to replace those leaving because of the confiscatory Taxes, Moonbat infestations, etc.
You probably know the commercial : Eg A Surfer holds his Surfboard and says "We have Board Meetings ... Lots of Board Meetings" as though he were a businessman. No wonder that State's in a mess, if it's all Fun, Fun, Fun and no Work, Work, Work.

What they forget to say on those ads is we don't care if you're here legally or not.

248 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:39:32am

re: #246 Pass The Moonbaticide

I know the commercial. It reminds of a Beach Boys song, " She'll have fun. fun fun, 'till her Daddy took the T-Bird Away".

249 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:39:40am

At some point, all the years of diplomacy used on N Korea, one will have to ask, what method now?

Diplomacy has failed. Clinton tried it. Bush tried it. barry tried it. Something else must be employed.

250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:40:44am

re: #249 rightside

Something else must be demployed.

251 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:42:09am

re: #249 rightside

How about, Ohhh... I don't know... 90, 000 tons of Diplomacy!

252 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:43:01am

re: #251 BatGuano

It would take several of those, unfortunately.

253 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:43:38am

re: #248 BatGuano
She'll have fun. fun fun, 'till her Daddy took the T-Bird Away Government takes the Stimcash away".
Sorted that .

254 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:43:45am

re: #250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

or launched...

255 callahan23  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:44:16am

Good morning Lizards!
This is just a drive by comment. Hope you are all doin' fine.
Did last nights thread: ABC: The Emergence of Obama's Muslim Roots lead to any ban-sticks?
I certainly hope not. It was a controversial (or better ;-) heatable) subject.

256 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:44:44am

re: #240 littleoldlady

any fruit cup left?

257 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:46:25am

re: #256 yochanan

any fruit cup left?

Nope. I was all peckish. : )

258 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:46:31am

yochanan! :-)

Vus machta?

259 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:48:07am

re: #255 callahan23
I didn't see any bans. But wait till Charles posts the next Obama in Saudi Arabia thread. I believe he's there at this moment. Will he apologise for all things American again ? Will he bow to King Abdullah this time ?
Watch this space ...

260 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:48:47am

re: #258 littleoldlady

wish me a 'refuah slamaha'

261 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:48:55am

re: #252 rightside

It would take several of those, unfortunately.

It was a good dream. In the past, one American Carrier could cause all kinds of anguish among sane adversaries. We're stretched a little thin these days.

262 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:50:59am

bbiab.

263 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:52:19am

re: #259 Pass The Moonbaticide

/Is it okay, if he kisses Abdullah's ring? He's gotta have some latitude.

264 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:53:17am

re: #260 yochanan

Oh, dear! Are you ill? I didn't know.

Mi Shebeirach

265 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:54:53am

re: #264 littleoldlady

yes

266 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:55:39am

re: #260 yochanan

Blessings.

267 justdanny  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:57:17am

yochanan

My heart is with you.

268 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:57:38am

re: #261 BatGuano
Talking of American Carriers, The USS Theodore Roosevelt visited Portsmouth on a goodwill visit about two months ago. That ship is so large it had to stay outside the Harbour confines because its' draught is too large, unlike our wimpy British carriers. . The crew on leave came ashore in picket boats !
Enterprising local boat hirers ran excursions around the carrier for locals to see what our Allies use in their Navy . Boy, is it impressive.

269 callahan23  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:57:54am

re: #259 Pass The Moonbaticide
I'll repost my link. Did you see that article? Definitely worth a read.

Barack Obama should stop apologising for America

... The world needs a president who aggressively projects American power on the world stage, rather than seeks the adoration of traditionally hostile foreign audiences. In Egypt, Obama should not be afraid to offend the sensibilities of Muslim leaders, by calling for religious tolerance, freedom of speech, worship and association, and a rejection of Islamist extremism.
In Germany, the president should call on Europe to learn the lessons of the Holocaust and stand and fight against totalitarianism, whether in the form of the Taliban in Afghanistan or the Mullahs of Tehran in their drive for nuclear domination of the Middle East. He must urge the Germans to end their massive investments in Iran, which shamefully help sustain a regime that threatens to wipe the descendents of the survivors of the Final Solution from the face of the earth. ...

And all that coming from a british newspaper!

270 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:59:23am

re: #269 callahan23

I just hope he's not apologizing for me. I'm really not that sorry.

271 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:59:27am

re: #268 Pass The Moonbaticide

I would have loved to have seen that!

272 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:59:32am

re: #265 yochanan

I'm very sorry to hear that! {[{yochanan]]}

/...according to gmsc, that should help

273 callahan23  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:59:51am

re: #265 yochanan

All the best wishes and may all be well soon.

274 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:59:51am

re: #259 Pass The Moonbaticide


I didn't see any bans. But wait till Charles posts the next Obama in Saudi Arabia thread. I believe he's there at this moment. Will he apologise for all things American again ? Will he bow to King Abdullah this time ?
Watch this space ...

Just wait til Thursday, when Obama will be presenting a speech to the entire Islamic world from Cairo. He's billed it as a key part of his ME strategy.
So prepare for total meltdown on Thursday all across the wacko part of the right wing blogosphere as they go nuts dissecting it for seekrit coded messages. And a very busy day here when Charles posts about it too.

275 jim in virginia  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:02:16am

Good morning all!
{Littleoldlady}- are you here late or am I early?

276 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:02:41am

re: #265 yochanan

yes

Best wishes, yochanan.

277 justdanny  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:05:06am

About Obama and his "muslim roots".

I don't care one bit and Im not frightened one bit by his Muslim roots. Muslims dont scare me. What scares me is truly devout muslims. Muhammed was a insane warrior. Devout muslims worship closely the ideas of a ruthless warrrior.

There are cultural muslims and devout muslims. I have a few friends that are cultural muslims, that I love dearly. I am unable to friend truly devout muslims.

278 littleoldlady  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:05:06am

re: #275 jim in virginia

{My Rove}! :-)

Oh, oh, oh! Look at the TIME!

Good day, ALL!™

*whoosh!*

279 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:05:45am

re: #269 callahan23

I've noticed the Brits are getting cheeky lately!

280 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:07:39am

re: #278 littleoldlady

Gooday, lol. Listening!

281 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:07:49am

re: #274 iceweasel

Prepare for total meltdown on Thursday all across the wacko part of the right wing blogosphere as they go nuts dissecting it for seekrit coded messages.


There'll be plenty Obama says openly that will be cause enough for discussion, far less sekrit, coded, nudge-nudge stuff with double meanings.

282 jim in virginia  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:10:34am

re: #274 iceweasel Given our recent foreign policy successes (the RESET button, for example), I don't expect great things from the visit to Saudi or the Cairo speech. But I expect to be entertained.
Maybe the teleprompter will break.
Maybe he will announce that he isn't the messiah, he's the Mahdi. (Not a good idea in a Sunni country.)

Oh dear- am I wishing that Obama fails?

283 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:12:40am

Good morning.

Look for profit taking in the market today after 2 days of gains.

Look for Obama to apologize again for the US's existence.


Unless I missed it, Obama has still not commented on the shooting of the two military recruiters.

284 callahan23  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:13:07am

re: #277 justdanny

About Obama and his "muslim roots".

I don't care one bit and Im not frightened one bit by his Muslim roots. Muslims dont scare me. What scares me is truly devout muslims. Muhammed was a insane warrior. Devout muslims worship closely the ideas of a ruthless warrrior.

There are cultural muslims and devout muslims. I have a few friends that are cultural muslims, that I love dearly. I am unable to friend truly devout muslims.

Same with me here. I even have a friend who is a born muslim but secretly he is an agnostic/atheist. Secretly because he doesn't want to upset fellow muslims and wants to avoid harassment visiting back his home-country (stoning, beheading etc.).
But on Obama I think him to be a fraud, even for a politician, of the lowest level. He willfully misled the American public with the slavish help of the FMSM.

285 Pass The Moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:14:01am

Now that Obama is no longer a member of TUCC Chicago, does anybody know where Obama and his family DO now worship ... If at all ?

286 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:14:47am

re: #277 justdanny

About Obama and his "muslim roots".

I don't care one bit and Im not frightened one bit by his Muslim roots. Muslims dont scare me. What scares me is truly devout muslims. Muhammed was a insane warrior. Devout muslims worship closely the ideas of a ruthless warrrior.

There are cultural muslims and devout muslims. I have a few friends that are cultural muslims, that I love dearly. I am unable to friend truly devout muslims.

I still think Obama himself is an atheist.

287 jim in virginia  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:16:34am

re: #285 Pass The Moonbaticide
He has attended a couple of DC churches but has not been a regular churchgoer here.

288 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:16:34am

re: #283 3 wood

I just updinded you for two the three: They were funny.

289 justdanny  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:17:33am

re: #284 callahan23

He isnt a good man. Thats what I believe.

Different subject, Interesting comments here,

Subject three,

Its wednesday folks! Drive it like you stoled it! Im off to work.

290 Mithrax  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:17:35am

re: #286 TheMatrix31

I still think Obama himself is an atheist.

So then he doesn't believe in himself? :P

291 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:19:12am

Inflation is already having a negative effect on mortgage applications:

As mortgage rates jump, week-to-week applications drop
Increase in 30-year's rate is biggest week-to-week rise since October, MBA says

CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- Mortgage rates rose sharply last week, and the volume of mortgage applications filed fell a seasonally adjusted 16.2% compared with the previous week, the Mortgage Bankers Association said Wednesday.

Applications were up an unadjusted 14.4% for the week ended May 29 from the comparable week in 2008, according to the Washington-based MBA's survey, results for which were adjusted to account for the Memorial Day holiday.

The latest survey, which covers half of all U.S. retail residential mortgage applications, mirrored a similar pattern for mortgage filings seen in the week ended May 22.

Yields on Treasury notes, a key benchmark for setting mortgage rates, spiked a week ago.

The most recent week-to-week drop in overall mortgage application volumes stemmed from a 24.1% decrease in refinancing activity among homeowners, the data showed. Filings seeking mortgages to purchase homes were up a seasonally adjusted 4.3%.

292 callahan23  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:19:41am

BBL

293 jim in virginia  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:20:03am

re: #286 TheMatrix31

I still think Obama himself is an atheist.


I don't think he has any deeply held religious beliefs or non beliefs. Just not on his radar screen. Based on scant evidence I think the only thing he worships and believes in is himself, but who am I to judge?

294 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:20:28am

re: #288 BatGuano

Thanks.

295 jim in virginia  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:21:20am

FBV, are you still around? Any chance you're in Richmond Friday afternoon?

296 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:22:16am

re: #281 Pass The Moonbaticide

There'll be plenty Obama says openly that will be cause enough for discussion

That's my point. But expect a ton of distortion and spin and craziness about conspiracies from the wacko right fringe which will have to be debunked. Those are the people who will be concentrating on sekrit, coded, nudge-nudge stuff with double meanings.

297 jcbunga  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:22:22am

Good morning from cloudy Northern Virginia.

The One is arriving in Saudi. Start the will-he-bow-down-to-his-masters watch.

I also want a nickel for every time he says "Let me be clear..." the next couple days.

Happy Wednesday.

298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:22:50am

re: #295 jim in virginia

Of course not. Poop!

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:23:17am

I have to get moving. Y'all be cool!

300 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:24:10am

Looks like Chicago can't even privatize operations in good order:
City could have gotten nearly $1 billion more for parking meters, report says


Chicago’s 36,000 parking meters were worth nearly twice as much as the $1.15 billion Mayor Daley got when he rammed through a 75-year lease in a few days without analyzing what the system was worth, the city’s inspector general has concluded.


I'm from the government and I'm here to help you...

301 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:25:58am

re: #300 3 wood

That was Ronald Reagan's favorite joke (mine too).

302 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:26:22am

re: #268 Pass The Moonbaticide

She was homeported where I was in San Diego. Those ships are ginormous, floating cities, literally.

When the tsunami struck, a carrier was dispatched to provide fresh drinking water, food, power, medical care, and host of other things. When the chips are down, people from all over the world thank their Gods that America send them, and people to assist. Imposing our morals on others, indeed!

America, Fuck Yeah!

We're the good guys, remember?

303 kansas  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:26:36am

re: #15 freetoken

Drudge is really pushing the Obama-Muslim theme... this should feed the need to post links about it on the blog-o-sphere.

The association of the Presidents non-comment on the AR shooting to his comments today (in France) really is feeding the sekrit-Muslim conspiracy talk.

Maybe not so sekrit anymore?

304 kansas  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:27:42am

BTW Newsweek has an article by Robert Samuelson pointing out that the media fawns over Obama. Duh.

305 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:28:20am

Good Morning LGF.

306 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:29:44am

re: #296 iceweasel

Hey Ice, who do you consider the wacko right fringe?

307 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:30:29am

re: #305 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.

Good morning, Spare O'Lake.

308 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:30:59am

re: #282 jim in virginia

Given our recent foreign policy successes (the RESET button, for example), I don't expect great things from the visit to Saudi or the Cairo speech. But I expect to be entertained.
Maybe the teleprompter will break.
Maybe he will announce that he isn't the messiah, he's the Mahdi. (Not a good idea in a Sunni country.)

Oh dear- am I wishing that Obama fails?

This particular speech is one addressing the entire Islamic world. It's the keynote speech of his ME tour. This is also why it was politically opportune for him to start playing up his Muslim roots the other day--it's all part of the buildup to this speech.

Al-Qaida just issued an announcement condemning his speech in advance.

Al-Qaida's deputy leader criticized President Barack Obama's upcoming speech to the Islamic world in Cairo, saying it will not change the "bloody messages" the U.S. military is sending Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Al-Qaida has repeatedly lashed out at Obama since he was elected, a move some analysts believe indicates the terrorist organization is worried he will be effective in improving the U.S. image in the Muslim world. Obama has pitched his speech at Cairo University on Thursday as a key part of that process.

"His bloody messages were received and are still being received by Muslims, and they will not be concealed by public relations campaigns or by farcical visits or elegant words," said Ayman al-Zawahri, al-Qaida's No. 2, in a new audio message posted Tuesday on militant Web sites.

Al-Zawahri said the Egyptian officials who will welcome Obama are U.S. "slaves" and have turned the country into an "international station of torture in America's war on Islam." He was likely referring to suspected Islamic militants who have been captured by the U.S. and sent to Egypt for interrogation, a process known as rendition.

Al-Zawahri urged Egyptians to reject Obama when he makes his speech, calling him "that criminal who came seeking, with deception, to obtain what he failed to achieve in the field after the mujahideen ruined the project of the crusader America in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia."

[Link: www.google.com...]

309 jim in virginia  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:33:06am

re: #297 jcbunga Where at? People's republic of Alexandria here.
Are you getting enough rain?

310 pass the moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:33:55am

re: #302 rightside

When the tsunami struck, a carrier was dispatched to provide fresh drinking water, food, power, medical care, and host of other things./blockquote>
Y'all be sure to apologise for that Imperialistic Military involvement, just like Obama does.
311 pass the moonbaticide  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:35:41am

re: #310 pass the moonbaticide
Where did half of that comment go ?

I finished it with :
'Y'all be sure to apologise for that Imperialistic Military involvement just like your President does'

312 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:36:40am

re: #311 pass the moonbaticide

I got it.

313 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:36:54am

Looks like the sale of the Hummer to the Chinese will cost jobs in the US:

Saving The Car Industry While Killing Employment


GM’s Chapter 11 filing shows that it will hold onto its highly successful Latin American and Chinese operations. From the standpoint of its new shareholders that makes sense. Both of the overseas markets are growing while GM’s businesses in North America and Europe are not. The No.1 US car company is close to selling off most of what it owns on the continent.

The troubling aspect of GM’s strategy to rebuild its operations into a profitable enterprise is that the firm will make investments outside the US to create jobs while it takes actions in the US that will increase unemployment in the car industry and among parts manufacturers and dealers. Taxpayer dollars are going to support actions that are likely to increase joblessness in America. Consumer spending will be undermined and more people will be forced out of their homes or onto the rolls of those that need financial support from the US or state governments. That, in turn, puts a larger burden on taxpayers who are still employed.

According to The New York Times, “Auto suppliers, which employ more workers than the car companies themselves, have cut way back, almost hibernating, as they lay off employees earning $10 to $22 an hour, or cut back their hours.” So the job destruction is spreading well beyond the car companies themselves, raising the possibility that the restructuring of Detroit could cost hundreds of thousand of jobs at the same moment when the federal government is spending tens of billions of dollars to create or save three million jobs. The two actions collide and the effects of the stimulus package are likely to be the eventual loser.

Now, this is interesting.

Isn't Obama the one who pounded the previous administration about jobs going overseas? As the article above says, Obama said that his administration would create or save millions of jobs. To date at least 1,860,000 jobs have been destroyed since Obama was sworn in. Now here goes some more.

And we are paying$780 billion of our and our children's money for this mess.

314 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:37:48am

re: #302 rightside

We're the good guys, remember?

Could someone please tell our President that?

315 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:38:04am

re: #313 3 wood

Returning our nations wealth to its "rightful owners"

316 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:40:29am

re: #302 rightside

She was homeported where I was in San Diego. Those ships are ginormous, floating cities, literally.

When the tsunami struck, a carrier was dispatched to provide fresh drinking water, food, power, medical care, and host of other things. When the chips are down, people from all over the world thank their Gods that America send them, and people to assist. Imposing our morals on others, indeed!

America, Fuck Yeah!

We're the good guys, remember?


Totally agree with this. Those things have, I believe, three hospitals on board with everything from exam rooms to operating theatres; cafeteria facilities geared toward producing thousands of meals per day; shelter, heating and air conditioning; and flight facilities for transport and information gathering over a wide area. They have been key in rescue and catasrophe operations many times. If the US didn't have them, we would probably be obligated to build them anyway, even without military needs. They are simply too damn indispensible.

317 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:44:20am

Sad news for Britain:
Al Qaeda kills British hostage in Mali


DUBAI/LONDON (Reuters) - Al Qaeda's North African wing said on Wednesday it had carried out its threat to kill a British hostage it was holding in the Sahara.

Britain said it had reason to believe the hostage, Edwin Dyer, had been killed and Prime Minister Gordon Brown condemned the killing as "a barbaric act of terrorism."

I found it interesting that Reuters actually quoted the word "terrorism". I thought it was a "man made disaster". Of course, who is to blame for the murder? Jews and the US.

"The British captive was killed so that he, and with him the British state, may taste a tiny portion of what innocent Muslims taste every day at the hands of the Crusader and Jewish coalition to the east and to the west," the statement said.

I'm waiting for Obama's apology later today.

318 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:45:02am
319 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:45:02am

I wonder whether the Hummer sale to China will materially affect America's military vehicle production capacity.
Anyone?

320 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:45:36am

re: #316 SixDegrees

In addition to the carrier, the US send the USNS Mercy, a hospital ship there to the area as well.

This is one area of our budget, I have no qualms about giving my tax dollars for.

321 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:45:41am

re: #315 rightside

Returning our nations wealth to its "rightful owners"

So far we are tracking with the Communist Manifesto check list pretty closely.

322 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:46:24am

re: #321 3 wood

The one posted in the congressional record back in the early 60's?

323 FamHistoryGuy  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:46:35am

re: #261 BatGuano

On carriers or sane opponents?

324 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:47:42am

re: #323 FamHistoryGuy

On carriers or sane opponents?

Both.

325 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:48:43am

Does Obama visit Israel?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

326 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:48:52am
327 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:49:59am

re: #319 Spare O'Lake

I wonder whether the Hummer sale to China will materially affect America's military vehicle production capacity.
Anyone?

Good question.
I suspect (or HOPE is better, maybe) that military vehicles are produced by some other division of the automaker.

328 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:52:03am

1963 Communist goals as entered into the congressional record by Albert Herlong Jr.

329 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:52:29am

re: #320 rightside

In addition to the carrier, the US send the USNS Mercy, a hospital ship there to the area as well.

This is one area of our budget, I have no qualms about giving my tax dollars for.


Absolutely correct.

I'll add, too, that the US military's heavy lift capabilities - by far the most developed in the world - are pretty much solely responsible for transporting all the food distributed by the UN and other international aid agencies worldwide, and that we provide that service for free, shipping untold thousands of tons of food into areas both remote and accessible on a regular basis.

330 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:53:25am
331 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:54:59am

re: #327 reine.de.tout

Good question.
I suspect (or HOPE is better, maybe) that military vehicles are produced by some other division of the automaker.

I just looked it up myself - the Humvee (military version) is made by AM General, which is a different company.
Gotta love that Google.

332 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:55:02am
333 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:55:31am

re: #327 reine.de.tout

Good question.
I suspect (or HOPE is better, maybe) that military vehicles are produced by some other division of the automaker.


AM General makes the HUMVEE and is a seperate entity from Hummer.


[Link: www.amgeneral.com...]

334 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:56:12am

Chavez is at it again:
Chavez Accuses CIA of Plot, May Sanction Banks


President Hugo Chavez on Tuesday alleged that U.S. intelligence agencies were behind a purported assassination plot that prevented him from visiting El Salvador.

Chavez had planned to attend the inauguration of leftist President Mauricio Funes in the Central American nation on Monday, but said he canceled his trip due to the alleged plot.

"I don't doubt that the intelligence organizations of the United States are behind this," Chavez said, accusing them of plotting with Cuban militant Luis Posada Carriles to murder him.

He said Venezuelan intelligence services have "very precise information" that they were planning to launch rockets at the Cubana de Aviacion plane he was

going to travel in.

Chavez does not blame his partner-in-socialism Obama though:

"I'm not accusing Obama," he said. "I think Obama has good intentions, but beyond Obama there's an empire — the CIA and all its tentacles: Terrorists and paramilitaries."

And then Chavez goes after the banks:

Also on Tuesday, Chavez threatened to sanction private banks that fail to collaborate with his government's regulations as it moves toward a socialist economy.

Chavez says that banks are designed to intervene in the financial system and provide credit to people buying houses or producing food, rather than generating massive earnings for their owners.

"If private Venezuelan banks don't follow the path, comply with the constitution and the laws, they'll have to be sanctioned," Chavez said. "The only way this

government and this socialist project will accept private banks is if they fulfill their duty to intermediate, and join the government to promote economic development."

Chavez's government has stepped up its role in the banking sector since it reached an agreement with Spain's Santander to purchase its local unit, Banco de Venezuela, last month. Once it formally assumes control of the bank on July 3, the government will become the nation's top financial player.

"We will have more economic power," Chavez said of the nationalization on Tuesday.

and so it goes.

335 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:57:58am

The HMMWV is produced by AM General. Totally different from GMC. There may be a link between the two that I'm unaware of, but I don't think so.

336 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:58:07am

re: #330 taxfreekiller

What % of the over all gross income of GM has ended up in the hands of the Union re-election of commie Democrats slush fund?


None. GM doesn't have any income to speak of, and the unions aren't on the payroll. They're shareholders of stock that is currently all but worthless, although it may gain in value in the future. They also hold a non-voting seat on GM's board. All that, plus a couple of bucks, will get you a coffee at Starbucks.

337 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:58:12am

Got to head out to work to pay for Obama's latest apology tour.

338 mamacares  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:59:13am

Good morning Lizards.

339 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:01:47am

re: #336 SixDegrees

None. GM doesn't have any income to speak of, and the unions aren't on the payroll. They're shareholders of stock that is currently all but worthless, although it may gain in value in the future. They also hold a non-voting seat on GM's board. All that, plus a couple of bucks, will get you a coffee at Starbucks.


But the union gets a voice on the board and as such GM will continue to be held down by the UAW boot on it's throat until they either suffocate or the government gives them a bottomless slush fund and we all pay for GM vehicles regardless of what we drive.

340 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:01:49am
341 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:04:12am

Good Morning all. Obama now in the Middle East where he will speak of the Islamic influence in his life, his father , step father , time in Indonesia & Muslim contacts in Chicago.
Interesting since alluding to that influence during the campaign was considered dirty politics & even racist.

342 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:04:55am

re: #338 mamacares

Morning.

343 BatGuano  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:06:38am

Goodnight all. In my absence I expect yo to, do do that voodoo that you do so well.

344 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:08:14am

re: #343 BatGuano

goodnight BG. Weet dreams.

345 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:08:16am

While remaining mute about the murder of a soldier at a recruiting station by a jihadist, 0bama was able to find the time to speak about his pick for the NBA championship. Glad he has his priorities straight.

346 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:08:41am

I think I may have just seen a mini-bow on BBC coverage of Obama's arrival in Riyadh.
It was not shown in the CNN clip.
*twitching*

347 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:09:25am

re: #346 Spare O'Lake

I think I may have just seen a mini-bow on BBC coverage of Obama's arrival in Riyadh.
It was not shown in the CNN clip.
*twitching*


Was 0 carrying his prayer rug?

348 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:13:07am

re: #345 soxfan4life

Has anything been revealed about the soldiers attacked? I think I so somewhere their names, but not much else.

349 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:13:55am

Early

So = saw

350 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:14:30am

Obama in an interview yesterday described America as having one of the largest communities of Mulims in the world.
That may be true , but it ignores the percent. I recall being in Detroit when Islamic organizations were disputing their count in the census.

351 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:15:01am

re: #348 1SG(ret)

A muslim murders a GI to avenge the deaths of other muslims? Nothing to see here, move along, this isn't the story you're looking for.

352 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:17:43am

re: #351 rightside

OK, moving on! Thanks for reminding me! I tend to to get tunnel vision sometimes! Do I now need to report to some commission somewhere?

353 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:18:31am

re: #352 1SG(ret)

LOL, Morning Top.

354 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:19:03am

re: #352 1SG(ret)

OK, moving on! Thanks for reminding me! I tend to to get tunnel vision sometimes! Do I now need to report to some commission somewhere?


Once 0 gets GITMO closed and his jihadist brothers moved out he will reopen GITMO to reeducate heathens like us.

356 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:20:38am

Morning rightside! You retired or still active. I'm sure you've said, but I haven't seen!

358 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:22:50am

re: #357 MandyManners

Oh. Poor choice of words.

359 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:23:20am

re: #357 MandyManners

If this is what happened, why hasn't there been a huge splash in the MFM?

Someone might be offended.

/

360 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:24:07am

re: #356 1SG(ret)

I'm in the fleet reserve now, and have been for over 5 years. Once 10 years elapse, I will be officially retired. Semantics, but that's how the Navy does it. If some huge war breaks out, I'd be recalled to active duty. Once the 10 years have expired, I technically would not be eligible for recall (yeah, right).

I can still sign my name with USN(ret) after it though. Go figure!

361 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:24:07am

re: #359 NJDhockeyfan

Someone might be offended.

/

Terrorists need publicity.

362 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:24:31am

re: #357 MandyManners

If this is what happened, why hasn't there been a huge splash in the MFM?


They were busy brushing up on their Arabic and Farsi for the Rock Star's Middle East tour. Certainly you can't expect actual reporting while they are fawning over FCBBHO.

363 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:24:35am

re: #354 soxfan4life

My oldest son, was an MP for 8 yrs and had two tours down there. There are some bad MOFO's in that place. The American public really needs to WTFU. (W=wake)

364 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:25:03am

re: #361 MandyManners

That's what al-jazeera is for.

365 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:25:24am

re: #358 MandyManners

Oh. Poor choice of words.

Naughty girl...should've said "big blowup" instead./

366 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:26:44am

re: #363 1SG(ret)

My oldest son, was an MP for 8 yrs and had two tours down there. There are some bad MOFO's in that place. The American public really needs to WTFU. (W=wake)


I went in 95 to process refugees when Castro opened up the doors to the prisons and mental hospitals.Fortunately never had to go after that.

367 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:26:49am

re: #360 rightside

In the Army, we call those Hip Pocket Orders, I have 6 yrs left on mine.

368 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:27:18am

Has O condemned the terrorist attack on our soldiers yet?

369 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:27:47am

re: #284 callahan23

Same with me here. I even have a friend who is a born muslim but secretly he is an agnostic/atheist. Secretly because he doesn't want to upset fellow muslims and wants to avoid harassment visiting back his home-country (stoning, beheading etc.).
But on Obama I think him to be a fraud, even for a politician, of the lowest level. He willfully misled the American public with the slavish help of the FMSM.


No argument that Obama was less than honest about his Muslim upbringing. Problem is a whole bunch of people were told they were crazy for even bringing it up. And that thing about not being able to use his middle name was way over the top, but no one really complained about it.

370 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:28:51am

re: #360 rightside

I'm in the fleet reserve now, and have been for over 5 years. Once 10 years elapse, I will be officially retired. Semantics, but that's how the Navy does it. If some huge war breaks out, I'd be recalled to active duty. Once the 10 years have expired, I technically would not be eligible for recall (yeah, right).

I can still sign my name with USN(ret) after it though. Go figure!

The wife and I are both in the over 30 club. We got nice certificates signed by Bush.

371 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:29:44am

New alleged OBL voice tape apparently mentions Pres. Obama and recent Swat Valley events - if authentic, would show he is alive, contrary to recent statements from our Pakistani allies.//

372 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:30:23am

re: #368 NJDhockeyfan

NO isn't on the TOTUS scheduled list of things important.

373 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:30:59am

re: #368 NJDhockeyfan

Has O condemned the terrorist attack on our soldiers yet?

No, not a word about it.An attack on the military, including a recruitment depot is a serious matter & he had an obligation to publicly condemn it.
Must have been to busy getting ready to brag about his Muslim roots, that we weren't supposed to notice.

374 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:31:19am

re: #306 BatGuano

Gah, I've been writing a huge response and you're gone!

375 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:32:23am

re: #369 johnnyreb

No argument that Obama was less than honest about his Muslim upbringing. Problem is a whole bunch of people were told they were crazy for even bringing it up. And that thing about not being able to use his middle name was way over the top, but no one really complained about it.


There was no chance to complain if it was brought up you were called a racist among other things. So sad that so many Americans were incapable of any research and bought this load of crap from the MSM, Democratic Party, and the droolers. Remember how all we heard was how center 0 would be. Meanwhile his entire history proves he couldn't get any more leftwing. And how he grew up immersed in Muslim culture but was a devout Christian.

376 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:32:28am

re: #369 johnnyreb

No argument that Obama was less than honest about his Muslim upbringing. Problem is a whole bunch of people were told they were crazy for even bringing it up. And that thing about not being able to use his middle name was way over the top, but no one really complained about it.


John McCain was in the "Don't mention Obama in the same breath as Islam" club

377 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:32:39am

re: #370 johnnyreb

I have a certificate for my transfer to fleet reserve from Bush. Someone who actually appreciates the troops!

378 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:33:08am

re: #371 Spare O'Lake

New alleged OBL voice tape apparently mentions Pres. Obama and recent Swat Valley events - if authentic, would show he is alive, contrary to recent statements from our Pakistani allies.//

Key words - "if authentic". Myself, I haven't believed any of these voice recordings since they switched away from using video.

379 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:34:13am

re: #370 johnnyreb

My retirement orders and certificate has that signature. Displayed proudly in my "I Love Me Room".

380 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:37:01am

re: #377 rightside

Bite me! Mine was signed by that damn philanderer!
Best one I ever saw was a Master Chief Bosun. His was a personal letter from RWR. NOT an auto pen. the Bosun was retiring after 30 years.

381 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:39:06am

Killer Mo part of plot to attack more military centers?

382 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:40:12am

re: #379 1SG(ret)

My retirement orders and certificate has that signature. Displayed proudly in my "I Love Me Room".

I finally made a love me wall in the basement for us. After a combined 45 years you certainly accumulate a butt ton of awards and junk.

383 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:41:05am

re: #381 MandyManners
There was something on the news this am but I missed it. The msm will shove it under the rug if there was.

384 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:41:51am

Good Morning Lizards ... another beautiful day in bitter clingerland ...

Can we embrace the inner Hussein now? ...

/real comforting the headline on Drudge ...

385 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:42:57am

re: #382 johnnyreb
Yep. My better half gave me space on one wall, so I had to pick and choose the best. The rest is put away for a while.

386 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:43:28am

re: #380 pingjockey

Ha-ha! (Nelson Muntz voice)

387 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:44:25am

re: #382 johnnyreb

I have things stored away. The manner in which I got out still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

388 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:45:11am

re: #382 johnnyreb

I know how that goes. Spent 30 in myself and didn't realize what I'd saved until I retired. The smallest things mean the most. Served until 6 Presidents. Nothing w/Carters' name is displayed though.

389 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:45:35am

re: #384 JacksonTn

Good Morning Lizards ... another beautiful day in bitter clingerland ...

Can we embrace the inner Hussein now? ...

/real comforting the headline on Drudge ...

BHO tried to convince a Jewish group in Chicago when he was running for the Senate that his first name is Jewish. As I understand it though, Barack is the Arabic version.

390 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:46:07am

Darn until = under

391 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:46:18am

re: #384 JacksonTn

Good Morning Lizards ... another beautiful day in bitter clingerland ...

Can we embrace the inner Hussein now? ...

/real comforting the headline on Drudge ...


We can be like all those asshole college kids and liberals who used Hussein for their middle name when FCBBHO's middle name was brought up. Sorry I trained for 8 years to fight wars against people with Hussein in their name because they meant to cause us harm and now I'm supposed to be all warm and fuzzy because Barack Hussein Obama is our President. Why not ask our Vietnam Vets to embrace President Ngyuen or President Giap? No disrespect to our Vietnam Vets.

392 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:48:26am

re: #388 1SG(ret)
Jimmah, RWR, Bush, Clinton. 2 winners and 2 losers. Guess I batted .500!

393 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:48:35am

re: #383 pingjockey

There was something on the news this am but I missed it. The msm will shove it under the rug if there was.

Fox isn't doing so.

394 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:49:31am

Fox right now is doing a montage of the "Apology Tour" of FCBBHO. Oh, this is precious.

395 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:50:19am

re: #394 MandyManners

Fox right now is doing a montage of the "Apology Tour" of FCBBHO. Oh, this is precious.

MM ... puke ...

/yeah, I am real mature ...

396 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:50:27am

re: #393 MandyManners
That's good. Haven't caught anything yet. FNC is showing obambis world tour with sound bites right now.

397 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:50:56am

re: #387 rightside

I have things stored away. The manner in which I got out still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

I was told to retire. I blew my knees out and they said no to my reenlistment to my HYT of 24 years. The wife wanted to stay in and make Master Chief but the detailer said she was going to DC to be the ECM and she said no way, so she retired also.

398 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:51:06am

I'm trying my best to be fair and patient concerning BHO. And it's too soon to throw in the towel, but some signs are not good. My personal approval rating for him is at about 40%. But I do want to say that I did not vote for this President. There were too many red flags for my taste. And the media utterly failed in it's supposed mission.

399 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:51:14am

re: #394 MandyManners

Fox right now is doing a montage of the "Apology Tour" of FCBBHO. Oh, this is precious.


I just saw the clip about 90% of the guns in Mexico come through the US and asshat 0bama makes a remark about Cheney's speech and fact check.

400 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:51:34am

re: #393 MandyManners

Fox isn't doing so.

They'll have more during the next hour.

401 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:52:03am

re: #395 JacksonTn

MM ... puke ...

/yeah, I am real mature ...

YA' GOT SOME ON MY SHOES!

402 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:52:28am

re: #396 pingjockey

That's good. Haven't caught anything yet. FNC is showing obambis world tour with sound bites right now.

They mocked him.

403 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:52:42am

re: #401 MandyManners

YA' GOT SOME ON MY SHOES!

Better than in your shoes.

404 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:53:06am

re: #392 pingjockey

LOL! I guess there are things America needs to apologize for. I'll not lament on what they are though. I'm sure they are obvious!

405 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:53:26am

So any over/under on how long into the speech tommorrow before the one throws Israel under the bus. I'm guessing under 10 minutes.

406 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:53:38am

re: #398 _RememberTonyC

I'm trying my best to be fair and patient concerning BHO. And it's too soon to throw in the towel, but some signs are not good. My personal approval rating for him is at about 40%. But I do want to say that I did not vote for this President. There were too many red flags for my taste. And the media utterly failed in it's supposed mission.

So, when will he lose your support? When Iran is allowed to nuke Tel Aviv?

407 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:54:14am

re: #402 MandyManners
Good!

408 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:54:22am

re: #399 soxfan4life

I just saw the clip about 90% of the guns in Mexico come through the US and asshat 0bama makes a remark about Cheney's speech and fact check.

I tuned him out during and after the Mexico bit.

409 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:55:38am

re: #405 pingjockey

So any over/under on how long into the speech tommorrow before the one throws Israel under the bus. I'm guessing under 10 minutes.


Will Israel or the US get thrown under the bus first?

410 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:56:03am
411 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:56:57am

re: #368 NJDhockeyfan

Has O condemned the terrorist attack on our soldiers yet?

That would be a NO.

You also won't see much mention of it on the America-hating left wing blogs either.

Funny how that goes.

412 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:56:59am

re: #409 soxfan4life
Oh wow! That might be a tough call!

413 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:58:08am

re: #410 MandyManners
That was vile. Indoctrination for sure.

414 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:59:04am

re: #406 MandyManners

So, when will he lose your support? When Iran is allowed to nuke Tel Aviv?

Nope ... I'll know it before it gets to that point. Netanyahu is gonna deal with iran one way or another. And BHO ain't gonna stop him. I don't trust BHO on the mideast at all. But we have him for at least 4 years. Believe this: if kim jong il can "play" Obama, Bibi will be able to do some things as well.

415 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:59:57am

re: #411 3 wood
Did the WH issue any statement? I haven't heard.

416 babes  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:00:45am

Another 'take your breath away' piece of information - from the Brits of course -

Barack Hussein Obama: US "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world"

Link (but it is out on Drudge) [Link: blogs.telegraph.co.uk...]

417 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:01:09am

re: #412 pingjockey

Oh wow! That might be a tough call!


The only tough part will be who goes first. Pretty sad when we can count on the President to throw the USA under the bus. Even Clinton didn't do that.My only hope is there is a special hell for Jimmy Carter, Barack 0bama and their followers that is ruled with an iron fist by one Dick Cheney.

418 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:03:05am

re: #414 _RememberTonyC

Nope ... I'll know it before it gets to that point. Netanyahu is gonna deal with iran one way or another. And BHO ain't gonna stop him. I don't trust BHO on the mideast at all. But we have him for at least 4 years. Believe this: if kim jong il can "play" Obama, Bibi will be able to do some things as well.

Kim's not playing FCBBHO. He's hell-bent on getting a nuke and no number of six-party talks will stop him.

I do not have to be fair or patient with FCBBHO. When someone tells you who he is, listen.

419 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:03:31am

White House staffers thought the new look for the oval office
was to placate our Asian friends by practicing pheing suei (sp)!
Turns out it's so the "0" can face Mecca!
Partly//

420 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:03:37am

re: #375 soxfan4life

. Remember how all we heard was how center 0 would be. Meanwhile his entire history proves he couldn't get any more leftwing. .

He's made decisions in many cases which preserve Bush policies, and decisions which have pleasantly surprised LGF (such as not releasing the new torture photos)...so he certainly could be more leftwing, and in fact many on the left are angry with him for those decisions.

421 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:03:42am

re: #394 MandyManners

Fox right now is doing a montage of the "Apology Tour" of FCBBHO. Oh, this is precious.

The Brits are tired of all the apologies.

Barack Obama should stop apologising for America

No leader in American history has gone to greater lengths than Barack Obama to make amends for his own country. From condemnation of American “arrogance” in a speech in Strasbourg to acknowledging U.S. “mistakes” before millions of Muslims on Arab television, Obama has rarely missed an opportunity to apologise for the actions of the American people.

President Obama has elevated the art of national self-loathing to new heights, and seems to delight in prostrating the most powerful nation on the face of the earth before its critics and rivals, especially on foreign soil. The Obama worldview revolves around the central premise that the United States must be humble and “engage” and work with its enemies through the application of “smart power”. There is nothing smart, however, in appeasing rogue states such as North Korea or Iran.

422 katemaclaren  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:04:35am

I really like the poem.

423 lincolntf  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:04:54am

Morning all.

Has the Commander in Chief made mention of the two of his soldiers who were gunned down?
I'm really asking, haven't seen the news yet this morning.

424 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:05:01am

re: #420 iceweasel

He's made decisions in many cases which preserve Bush policies, and decisions which have pleasantly surprised LGF (such as not releasing the new torture photos)...so he certainly could be more leftwing, and in fact many on the left are angry with him for those decisions.

IW ... you like him ... you really like him ...

/I don't and never will ... don't care if he walks no water ...

425 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:05:57am

re: #420 iceweasel

He's made decisions in many cases which preserve Bush policies, and decisions which have pleasantly surprised LGF (such as not releasing the new torture photos)...so he certainly could be more leftwing, and in fact many on the left are angry with him for those decisions.


Nationalizing industry and governmental control of banks is about as far left as one can get. It's not like President Bush was a conservative by any standard.

426 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:04am

re: #416 babes

Another 'take your breath away' piece of information - from the Brits of course -

Barack Hussein Obama: US "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world"

Link (but it is out on Drudge) [Link: blogs.telegraph.co.uk...]

It is important to note that "if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world".

WTF? We have more Muslims than India? Pakistan? Indonesia?

HE'S CALLING THIS NATION A MUSLIM NATION.

427 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:08am

re: #410 MandyManners

Albermarle School District sucks.

Lovely. I have to ask some of my friends if their kids were in that class.

428 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:10am

re: #423 lincolntf

Morning all.

Has the Commander in Chief made mention of the two of his soldiers who were gunned down?
I'm really asking, haven't seen the news yet this morning.

LF ... good morning ... um ... no ... shocka? ...

429 katemaclaren  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:38am

re: #421 NJDhockeyfan

Thanks for that link.

430 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:40am

re: #418 MandyManners
We have nothing to threaten the Norks with, other than force. Israel, the one can shut off weapons and parts shipments.

431 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:07:02am
432 katemaclaren  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:07:29am

re: #423 lincolntf

Well, he might soon--seems Bin Laden is awake and yelling at him. Maybe, our President may want to hug a soldier today.

433 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:07:37am

re: #426 MandyManners

It is important to note that "if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world".

WTF? We have more Muslims than India? Pakistan? Indonesia?

HE'S CALLING THIS NATION A MUSLIM NATION.

And no one in the MSM except Fox is calling him on it. That was not just a slip of the tongue either.

434 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:07:37am

Before I blow a gasket this early in the a.m., I'm gonna' start laundry. The Kid and his Yorkie had a tussle with a bottle of Hershey's syrup on his bed spread yesterday and it's a freakin' mess. Oh, joy. How soon until school starts back?

435 babes  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:07:40am

re: #426 MandyManners

yepper - sounds that way to me.

But wasn't a few weeks ago that he stated that American was not a Christian nation.

436 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:07:43am

re: #431 momcat

morning JT!

hoping the weather is ok for tonite

MC ... hey! ... yeah me too ... keeping my fingers crossed ...

437 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:08:07am

re: #421 NJDhockeyfan

The Brits are tired of all the apologies.

Actually, one Nile Gardner, of the Heritage Foundation and author of that piece, is as you say.

/It would shock me if the Heritage Foundation said otherwise.

438 lincolntf  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:08:30am

re: #411 3 wood

Just scrolled up and saw the answer to my question.
I have no words. What possible reason (not justification, but reason) could he possibly have for deliberately ignoring this?

439 katemaclaren  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:08:40am

re: #426 MandyManners

Whoooaa Nelly. Well, hey, maybe he counted Muslims in those seven extra states of ours.

440 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:08:57am

re: #418 MandyManners

Kim's not playing FCBBHO. He's hell-bent on getting a nuke and no number of six-party talks will stop him.

I do not have to be fair or patient with FCBBHO. When someone tells you who he is, listen.

Mandy ... I didn't ask YOU to give him a chance. Do what you want. But Obama IS being played ... by the whole fucking world ... including NK, china, russia, iran, and venezuela. What we really need is for some other high profile potential leaders (not retiree Dick Cheney) to step up and challenge Obama. This is NOT a dictatorship, despite what people like valerie jarrett think. We need good leadership. We need the next Reagan!

441 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:09:54am

May unemployment numbers are starting to come in, Watch how the slobbering Obama worshipers spin the numbers:

Economy Sheds 532,000 Jobs; Planned Layoffs Show Drop


U.S. private employers shed 532,000 jobs in May, fewer than the revised 545,000 jobs lost in April, a report by a private employment service said Wednesday.

The April figure was originally reported as a decline of 491,000.

The median forecast of economists surveyed by Reuters for the ADP Employer Services report, jointly developed with Macroeconomic Advisers LLC, was for 520,000 private-sector jobs lost in December.

The ADP job reading is seen as a predictor of the government's monthly payroll figure. The Labor Department will release its May employment report at 8:30 am Friday.

This means that approximately 2,392,000 jobs have been destroyed since the Messiah was sworn in, despite his big talk and his stimulus package. And this is the same guy who bragged that he would "save or create 3,000,000 jobs". He is within 2 months of lapping himself the other way.

But the media spins this as a positive cause this number is 2.4% less than April's. That's within the error margin for estimates.

But not everyone is fooled:

"I don't see where the second-half recovery is coming from with numbers like these," economist David Rosenberg said on CNBC. "Until employment stops falling, this recession is still intact."


But watch the slobbering MSM tout these numbers.

442 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:09:55am

re: #426 MandyManners

It is important to note that "if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world".

WTF? We have more Muslims than India? Pakistan? Indonesia?

HE'S CALLING THIS NATION A MUSLIM NATION.


How much of that Muslim population is prison converts?

443 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:28am

re: #434 MandyManners
Mwahahaha! Sorry Mandy. A few years ago the 9 yr old got into the fridge and had Hershey Chocolate and strawberry syrup everywhere! Scared the hell out of his mom when he came around the corner, the chocolate and strawberry mixed together looked like blood!

444 badger1970  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:30am

The flip side of that quote, a more happy one, is Roy Orbonson's "Hold on Tight to Your Dreams"

The Canadian press is calling our beloved bo the most dangerous man on the Earth, bo says America is the world's largest Muslim country, and in two fantasy baseball leagues, I'm going against Roy Halladay. It could be worse.

445 katemaclaren  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:41am

re: #434 MandyManners

Before I blow a gasket this early in the a.m., I'm gonna' start laundry. The Kid and his Yorkie had a tussle with a bottle of Hershey's syrup on his bed spread yesterday and it's a freakin' mess. Oh, joy. How soon until school starts back?

Upding Mandy, just because I feel your pain.

446 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:42am

re: #427 NJDhockeyfan

Reminds me of the teacher who humiliated that young girl in her classroom, because she supported McCain.

447 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:54am

re: #434 MandyManners

Hope the dog didn't consume to much of that Hersheys...
Very bad for dogs!
Our boxer got into a box of looli pops...was funny as hell.
He ran from us with little paper sticks hangin from mouth!

448 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:11:08am

re: #440 _RememberTonyC

Mandy ... I didn't ask YOU to give him a chance. Do what you want. But Obama IS being played ... by the whole fucking world ... including NK, china, russia, iran, and venezuela. What we really need is for some other high profile potential leaders (not retiree Dick Cheney) to step up and challenge Obama. This is NOT a dictatorship, despite what people like valerie jarrett think. We need good leadership. We need the next Reagan!


Valerie Jarrett:

449 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:11:27am

re: #415 pingjockey

Did the WH issue any statement? I haven't heard.

None that I have heard. Their silence speaks very loudly to me.

450 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:11:59am

re: #438 lincolntf

Just scrolled up and saw the answer to my question.
I have no words. What possible reason (not justification, but reason) could he possibly have for deliberately ignoring this?


Well for starters he is on his bow to Islam and apologize for America tour right now.

I honestly can't for the life of me see how the MSM and the administration are ignoring this story. A US soldier was assassinated in broad daylight in the US and nothing is being done about it? But an abortion doctor was murdered by a nut case and DHS has mobilized the entire justice department to protect other abortion clinics.

451 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:02am

re: #433 johnnyreb

And no one in the MSM except Fox is calling him on it. That was not just a slip of the tongue either.

Of course it's not a slip of the tongue. He's reaching out to Islam by trying to make America "acceptable" to them. I wonder where this gradualism will lead.

452 katemaclaren  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:06am

re: #444 badger1970

Linky please?

453 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:20am

re: #435 babes

yepper - sounds that way to me.

But wasn't a few weeks ago that he stated that American was not a Christian nation.

BINGO!

454 katemaclaren  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:44am

re: #451 MandyManners

Me too, me three, me four...I second third and fourth that

455 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:53am

GODDAMN BILL GATES! MS anda released Gitmo detainee are teaming up to make a video game about a terorist shooting his way out of prison. My next 'puter will not be a MS product.

456 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:13:47am

re: #449 3 wood
You and me both.

457 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:13:50am

re: #439 katemaclaren

Whoooaa Nelly. Well, hey, maybe he counted Muslims in those seven extra states of ours.

How will Gibbs spin this should any enterprising reporter question it?

458 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:14:14am

re: #438 lincolntf

Just scrolled up and saw the answer to my question.
I have no words. What possible reason (not justification, but reason) could he possibly have for deliberately ignoring this?

Umm..., that he's not all that bothered by it?

459 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:14:53am

re: #440 _RememberTonyC

Mandy ... I didn't ask YOU to give him a chance. Do what you want. But Obama IS being played ... by the whole fucking world ... including NK, china, russia, iran, and venezuela. What we really need is for some other high profile potential leaders (not retiree Dick Cheney) to step up and challenge Obama. This is NOT a dictatorship, despite what people like valerie jarrett think. We need good leadership. We need the next Reagan!

FCBBHO is playing US, the citizens of this nation.

460 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:15:06am

re: #457 MandyManners

He'll laugh and turn and ask..."Where's Arkansas"?

461 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:15:34am

re: #450 johnnyreb

I honestly can't for the life of me see how the MSM and the administration are ignoring this story. A US soldier was assassinated in broad daylight in the US and nothing is being done about it? But an abortion doctor was murdered by a nut case and DHS has mobilized the entire justice department to protect other abortion clinics.

It does not fit their agenda.

462 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:15:41am

re: #442 soxfan4life

How much of that Muslim population is prison converts?

That number still wouldn't put us anywehre near the nations I mentioned.

463 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:13am

re: #457 MandyManners

How will Gibbs spin this should any enterprising reporter question it?


A White House reporter asking that kind of question, aint gonna happen. There will be more coverage on his pick of LA in 6 games in the NBA championship.Or some type of question on Bo the first pet.

464 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:25am

re: #443 pingjockey

Mwahahaha! Sorry Mandy. A few years ago the 9 yr old got into the fridge and had Hershey Chocolate and strawberry syrup everywhere! Scared the hell out of his mom when he came around the corner, the chocolate and strawberry mixed together looked like blood!

Once you realize that a child is not dying, the next impulse is to throttle the little dear.

465 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:30am

re: #381 MandyManners

Killer Mo part of plot to attack more military centers?

I heard this on Fox this morning. It is very quiet on all other networks.

466 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:39am

re: #457 MandyManners

How will Gibbs spin this should any enterprising reporter question it?

They will never ask it.

467 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:47am

Good morning, lizards! I need to hijack the thread briefly for an important announcement. Last night, I registered for the Breast Cancer 3 Day Walk to benefit the Susan G. Komen Foundation. In October, I'll be walking 60 miles to raise money for breast cancer research and to honor the memory of my sister, who as many of you know lost her fight against the disease a couple of weeks ago.

Naturally I will be nagging you all mercilessly for donations. :) As soon as my registration is processed, you'll be able to go online or write a check to make a donation. Naturally, you'll need my real name for this. If you email me, I'll provide this information. Emails with "Breast Cancer" or "3 Day" in the subject will be rescued promptly from spam jail.

I promise you I will not derail every thread with fundraising pleas. I will mention it occasionally in open threads, as we get closer to the event. I appreciate any support, financial or otherwise, that you are able to provide.

468 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:17:41am

re: #464 MandyManners
Oh yeah! We never did get all of that syrup out of the fridge!

469 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:17:57am

re: #445 katemaclaren

Upding Mandy, just because I feel your pain.

I didn't discover it until last night so it's all soaked in and dried.

470 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:18:23am

re: #447 reloadingisnotahobby

Hope the dog didn't consume to much of that Hersheys...
Very bad for dogs!
Our boxer got into a box of looli pops...was funny as hell.
He ran from us with little paper sticks hangin from mouth!

The dog's just fine.

471 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:19:11am

re: #468 pingjockey
Take it out on the driveway and pressure wash it!
LOL
The Nieghbors(with kids) will understand!
Ha!

472 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:20:08am

re: #460 reloadingisnotahobby

He'll laugh and turn and ask..."Where's Arkansas"?

Clinton should hurl a shoe at him.

473 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:20:57am

re: #469 MandyManners
Our new pup was very busy last night. One sponge scubber thingy chewed to pieces, one roll of tp and one bag of cheese nips. The other night he ate a box of Pims chocolate cookie things the wife likes!

474 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:21:49am

re: #471 reloadingisnotahobby
Heh! It died and has been replaced.

475 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:22:00am

Need less blood in my caffeine-stream and maybe a walk around the grounds to calm down. bbiab

Very fucking idea saying that is a Muslim nation.

476 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:22:31am

Gotta' wipe the spittle off my keyboard, too.

477 babes  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:24:42am

re: #475 MandyManners

I have a severe case of mental whiplash over this one. Bye for a bit.

478 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:24:52am

Good morning y'all - from a hot (70 degrees going up to 90 degrees) and muggy Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

479 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:26:02am
480 eon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:26:15am

re: #419 reloadingisnotahobby

White House staffers thought the new look for the oval office
was to placate our Asian friends by practicing pheing suei (sp)!
Turns out it's so the "0" can face Mecca!
Partly//

Good morning, Lizards.

I'd actually prefer that, since Feng Shui is "mystical", pseudo-scientific claptrap. Penn & Teller debunked it hilariously on their show, by having three Feng Shui "consultants" in succession "harmonize" a room, each without knowing the other two were to be involved. All three did it differently, and each one maintained that Feng Shui is a science, and thus there was "only one correct way" to arrange everything. A classic blind test that all three flunked abysmally (in each of the two later "harmonizations", the "consultant" claimed that the existing arrangement, created by an earlier supposed "expert", was "entirely wrong").

Facing toward Mecca would at least indicate that The One was trying to do something consistent with something that actually exists, namely Mecca. (I'd rather he faced the Lincoln Memorial or the Washington Monument, but what the hell.)

But "Feng shui'ng" the Oval Office would be more consistent with his self-absorption and devotion to pseudo-science. In fact, I'm coming to believe that he is obsessed with pseudo-sciences like AGW, etc., not just from purely "philosophical" grounds, but because he simply is incapable of understanding real science. He has never been educated in it, because he was too busy learning to wheel, deal, and strong-arm Chicago style. And like most "progressives", he resents the fact that "real science" keeps giving him answers different from the ones he wants to hear.

(Like the new FBI Uniform Crime Report which shows that the rate of violent crime in the U.s. fell again last year, for the third year in a row, and is now lower than it has been at any time since the Reagan administration, when gun ownership and tough sentences for career criminals came back into style after two decades of "criminal as victim" and "guns kill people".)

I'd love to see anyone from the MSM ask him a substantive question about an actual scientific subject. Even something simple like whether or not he supports (or has ever even heard of) the SETI project. My guess is the answer would be something like;

"Uhhh, Wind and Sun, uhhh, Holy Mother Gaia, no, wait, I can't worship anyone else because I Am the One, uhh, I won, uhhh... can we talk about arugula?"

cheers

eon

481 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:27:20am

re: #479 momcat
Good morning momcat - how are you doing today?

482 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:27:21am

We have a President that says it is unacceptable for a soldier to pour water on a terrorists face to get information to save other Americans lives.

But if a terrorist assassinates a soldier at a recruiting station, ...crickets.

What does that tell you?

483 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:27:54am

re: #426 MandyManners

It is important to note that "if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world".

WTF? We have more Muslims than India? Pakistan? Indonesia?

HE'S CALLING THIS NATION A MUSLIM NATION.

I am still trying to make sense out of this statement.
I think he was disingenuous about his background during the campaign. I don't see why having a Muslim background is a 'smear', any more than any other background. Now all of a sudden he appears to be embracing his background, which he should have done all along IMO.

And to say we may be one of the largest Muslim nations after he said we are not a Christian nation, just shows his continued lack of astuteness. Does he expect that people won't react to this statement or does he just not care? It sure made my blood pressure go up a few notches. I am willing to agree that we as a nation can't really claim an official religious affiliation, but if we are not Christian, we sure as hell aren't muslim or any other religion.

484 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:29:21am
485 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:29:31am

re: #482 3 wood

We have a President that says it is unacceptable for a soldier to pour water on a terrorists face to get information to save other Americans lives.

But if a terrorist assassinates a soldier at a recruiting station, ...crickets.

What does that tell you?

That tells me everything I need to know about this administration and the MSM.

486 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:29:48am

re: #478 realwest

Good morning buddy.

487 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:30:46am

re: #480 eon

In fact, I'm coming to believe that he is obsessed with pseudo-sciences like AGW, etc., not just from purely "philosophical" grounds, but because he simply is incapable of understanding real science.

Dude...

/oh well...

488 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:30:57am

re: #482 3 wood

We have a President that says it is unacceptable for a soldier to pour water on a terrorists face to get information to save other Americans lives.

But if a terrorist assassinates a soldier at a recruiting station, ...crickets.

What does that tell you?

3 Wood - I continue to scratch my head over this. The silence is deafening. Somebody with a professed jihad agenda just shot and killed one of our soldiers, our sworn defenders. It seems like the media does not care. They are too busy jumping on a plane to follow the One on Apology Tour Part II. I am disgusted.

489 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:31:35am

re: #484 momcat

actually I am rain of lead, momcat is fixing pancakes :)

I'll tell her to make enough for everone ;)

I'll have mine with blueberries, please!

490 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:32:42am

re: #478 realwest
Mornin' RW, 92 here and we've had our first fire of the season. only 300 acres.

491 eon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:32:51am

re: #482 3 wood

We have a President that says it is unacceptable for a soldier to pour water on a terrorists face to get information to save other Americans lives.

But if a terrorist assassinates a soldier at a recruiting station, ...crickets.

What does that tell you?

I'm waiting for the MSM to claim it was a "purely personal" thing, like a grudge against one of the men who was shot. Never mind that he had never met either of his victims.

More likely they will claim that the possession of an "assault rifle" (really? was it selective-fire?) triggered an 'irresistible impulse" to use it on somebody. Or that whatever weapon he used fired itself. Or he played Grand Theft Auto too much. Or whatever.

I predict that will happen long before they admit he did it on grounds of (even a "self-imposed") jihad.

cheers

eon

492 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:33:34am
493 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:34:10am

re: #478 realwest

Morning RW.

494 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:34:14am

re: #467 doppelganglander

{doppleganglander}
I didn't know you recently lost your sister. I am so sorry to hear it.
Good on you for raising money to fight this disease.

495 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:37:01am

re: #482 3 wood

We have a President that says it is unacceptable for a soldier to pour water on a terrorists face to get information to save other Americans lives.

But if a terrorist assassinates a soldier at a recruiting station, ...crickets.

What does that tell you?

Makes a big deal about not scaring Muslim terrorists yet says Jack-shit about a Muslim terrorist gunning down Americans.

496 lincolntf  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:37:04am

re: #488 VioletTiger

It really blows my mind. What kind of world are we in when two uniformed US soldiers can be shot by a jihadist in broad daylight and nobody recognizes it as an escalation/shift of the terror threat or even as a particularly newsworthy story?
The military must be quietly enraged. I know I am enraged on their behalf.

497 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:37:29am

re: #482 3 wood
Good morning 3 wood! Hope you're well today! It tells me that Obama is consumed with trying to run GM, his trip to Islamia, his trip to France, (Normandy), Germany (perhaps to chat with Merkel about Opel) and back to France and that his pea-brain can't multi-task enough to give damn about soliders - especially - gasp - recruiters lives. Indeed, seven different people were murdered in several different incidents ONE NIGHT this past week in Chicago and Obama said...crickets again (you should check out Afrocity's blog, Autographed Letter Signed at [Link: afrocityblog.wordpress.com...] That with Dr. Tiller's murder Obama has his favorite whipping boy, the GOP - and especially the "religious right" of the GOP - in his sights and is too concentrated on that and his upcoming World Tour trip to the ME and Europe, to be concerned about the deaths of those soldiers or of the seven murders in his hometown. Indeed, I don't even recall any comments from the WH about those four dumber than dumb "prison converts" to Islam in Newburgh, NY who were nailed in an FBI sting buying phony C-4 and a fake shoulder fired SAM.

498 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:38:37am

re: #483 VioletTiger

I am still trying to make sense out of this statement.
I think he was disingenuous about his background during the campaign. I don't see why having a Muslim background is a 'smear', any more than any other background. Now all of a sudden he appears to be embracing his background, which he should have done all along IMO.

And to say we may be one of the largest Muslim nations after he said we are not a Christian nation, just shows his continued lack of astuteness. Does he expect that people won't react to this statement or does he just not care? It sure made my blood pressure go up a few notches. I am willing to agree that we as a nation can't really claim an official religious affiliation, but if we are not Christian, we sure as hell aren't muslim or any other religion.

I think he knows what he's saying. He's not appealing to us but to Muslim leaders. Once again, he's shoving us under the bus.

499 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:38:42am

OK this is absolutely ridiculous from Chicago:

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

SCOTUS ruled that DC could not ban handguns, but the idiot US court of appeals ruled that decision does not apply to States or cities. What a pathetic bunch of losers with a personal anti-gun agenda. The Heller decision specifically applies to States/Citites.

500 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:39:13am

re: #484 momcat
Well as long as she isn't making waffles - President Obama obviously already has more on his plate than he can handle!

501 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:39:41am

re: #488 VioletTiger

3 Wood - I continue to scratch my head over this. The silence is deafening. Somebody with a professed jihad agenda just shot and killed one of our soldiers, our sworn defenders. It seems like the media does not care. They are too busy jumping on a plane to follow the One on Apology Tour Part II. I am disgusted.

And, according to Fox, Mo's computer has information about a plot to hit other military installations.

502 spudly  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:03am

re: #357 MandyManners

If this is what happened, why hasn't there been a huge splash in the MFM?

A guy I know in France posted on a forum (in response to a link to this story) that the threat in that case was from a woman who was afraid her Muslim boyfriend might bomb the plane after she dumped him. The plane in question was searched and was cleared. Presumably he learned this in the french media.

503 KenJen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:11am

re: #495 MandyManners

Makes a big deal about not scaring Muslim terrorists yet says Jack-shit about a Muslim terrorist gunning down Americans.

Bet he won't even meet with the family members. He's probably to busy to even pick up the phone and offer condolences. President George W Bush would have never acted this way. His response would have been totally different.

504 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:17am

re: #496 lincolntf

It really blows my mind. What kind of world are we in when two uniformed US soldiers can be shot by a jihadist in broad daylight and nobody recognizes it as an escalation/shift of the terror threat or even as a particularly newsworthy story?
The military must be quietly enraged. I know I am enraged on their behalf.

The One DID manage, however, to let the media know that he thinks the Lakers will win the NBA championship.

505 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:36am

re: #490 pingjockey
Hi ping! Wow, 92 degrees?! Geez, y'all are either freezing or broiling - looks like y'all have followed our lead - just skip through spring and go from winter to summer, express only, no stops! LOL!
Other than that, and the fires, how are you doing today?

506 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:42:25am

re: #493 rightside
Hey rightside, how are you doing today?

507 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:42:59am

re: #494 VioletTiger

{doppleganglander}
I didn't know you recently lost your sister. I am so sorry to hear it.
Good on you for raising money to fight this disease.

Thanks, Violet.

508 FrogMarch  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:43:34am

What is it with Barack and Biden? Do they know they are lying, or are they just stupid?

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

509 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:44:01am

re: #497 realwest

So true, real. They will exploit this horrible murder for political purposes, while deliberately ignoring the murder of a US soldier. And now we are hearing about evidence that this was not a one-off thing. Again, the MSM remains silent.

510 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:44:10am

OK there is one very good reason why no one may be drawing attention to the story. It may still be an active investigation according to Fox:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

If true that may explain some of the silence. US DOJ may be asking the MSM to keep quite for now.

511 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:44:59am

re: #467 doppelganglander

You can count on me, plus I already know your secret identity.
;-)

513 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:45:55am

re: #510 johnnyreb

OK there is one very good reason why no one may be drawing attention to the story. It may still be an active investigation according to Fox:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

If true that may explain some of the silence. US DOJ may be asking the MSM to keep quite for now.

Couldn't the White House itself at least submitted a brief statement expressing grief for the families at a minimum?

514 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:46:15am

re: #498 MandyManners

I think he knows what he's saying. He's not appealing to us but to Muslim leaders. Once again, he's shoving us under the bus.



But Enough About Me . . .

In an interview for Richard Wolffe's new book, Renegade: The Making of a President, Obama told the Newsweek reporter he wants to hold a "Muslim summit."

If I had a Muslim summit, I think that I can speak credibly to them about the fact that I respect their culture, that I understand their religion, that I have lived in a Muslim country, and as a consequence I know it is possible to reconcile Islam with modernity and respect for human rights and a rejection of violence. And I think I can speak with added credibility.


Leave aside the foreign policy naïveté in this comment--the notion that foreign leaders will adjust their policy aims because of where in the world the president of the United States happened to live when he was in grade school. Consider what it says about Obama's self-understanding. The implication of his comment is that American leaders don't routinely respect others' culture or understand their religion. That is Obama's special gift. And to speak to foreign leaders merely with the credibility and authority inherent in being president of the United States isn't good enough. Does Obama grasp that his task is to advance U.S. interests in a lasting way, not his own personal approval rating in the world? As we saw on his earlier apology tour through Europe and his attendance at the Summit of the Americas, the attempt to advance his own standing can come at the expense of standing up for the nation he represents.

Gee, I hope the Spashul Snowflake don't melt in the hot Egyptian sun.

515 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:46:58am

re: #508 FrogMarch
Hey FrogMarch - why does it have to be either/or - Obama and Biden could be BOTH be lying and stupid (well, certainly Biden could be).

516 KenJen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:16am
517 bloodnok  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:23am

re: #510 johnnyreb

OK there is one very good reason why no one may be drawing attention to the story. It may still be an active investigation according to Fox:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

If true that may explain some of the silence. US DOJ may be asking the MSM to keep quite for now.

They've proven over the past 8 years that investigations and even public or military safety are not enough to keep a good story down. Interesting (/) that they'd start now.

I spit on the MSM.

518 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:40am

re: #513 Pianobuff

Couldn't the White House itself at least submitted a brief statement expressing grief for the families at a minimum?


IMO they should have. Not trying to defend anyone here, but I can see where the lack of reporting may be coming from. Just speculating.

519 lincolntf  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:48:05am

re: #510 johnnyreb

That's always possible, but condolences for the victims and their families and a vow to commit resources to investigate thoroughly, try and convict the perpetrator(s) would go a long way and not jeopardize anything.

520 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:49:21am

re: #518 johnnyreb

IMO they should have. Not trying to defend anyone here, but I can see where the lack of reporting may be coming from. Just speculating.

Point taken... but it is curious that the NYT/WP/etc had no problems leaking security details for years and now they are suddenly disciplined. ?

521 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:49:23am

re: #509 VioletTiger
Good morning VioletTiger - I think this is part of being on the losing side - issues that concern you don't concern the winner or his "right hand" (pun intended) the MSM.
I'm sure Obama cares but just hasn't had the TIME to call the families of those recruiters who were shot - btw, I know one of them died, do you know if the other is still alive?

522 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:49:27am

re: #516 KenJen

I forgot.

/

523 eon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:02am

re: #499 johnnyreb

OK this is absolutely ridiculous from Chicago:

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

SCOTUS ruled that DC could not ban handguns, but the idiot US court of appeals ruled that decision does not apply to States or cities. What a pathetic bunch of losers with a personal anti-gun agenda. The Heller decision specifically applies to States/Cities.

Judge Sotomayor rendered a similar opinion in a California case. In her brief, she apparently held that the 14th Amendment "had no force" in any case involving the Second Amendment. Which, by extension, means that it has no force in any other such issue, either. Or in other words, abiding by the provisions of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, etc., is strictly "optional" for any level of government below the Federal level.

Gee, I bet George Wallace and Bull Connor would have just loved to have a judge with that attitude on the Supreme Court "back in the day".

I've come to the conclusion that any judge who does not understand the meaning of the 14th Amendment ("No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States", etc.) is too ignorant of the Constitution and the law to practice as a lawyer, much less rule from the bench. Including both the judges in the Chicago case, and Judge Sotomayor.

cheers

eon

524 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:33am

re: #514 Kenneth

Fucking narcissist.

525 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:50am

re: #520 Pianobuff

Point taken... but it is curious that the NYT/WP/etc had no problems leaking security details for years and now they are suddenly disciplined. ?


Not suddenly disciplined, the One is in charge. They don't want to do anything to upset his administration.

526 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:51:00am

re: #499 johnnyreb

Liberals will stop at nothing to take away our God given rights.

527 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:51:43am

re: #510 johnnyreb

OK there is one very good reason why no one may be drawing attention to the story. It may still be an active investigation according to Fox:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

If true that may explain some of the silence. US DOJ may be asking the MSM to keep quite for now.


Quite likely. The large number (13?) of terrorism charges brought against the accused within hours suggests that there's more to this than is currently being released.

528 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:25am

Good morning. Light posting in store for today, since work is quite busy. But first... "check out the big brain on Todd Beeb":

The visit takes in Washington's two most important Arab allies, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

The Saudis are sponsors of the only comprehensive peace plan for relations between the Arab world and Israel, although peace negotiations are at a standstill.

Hey, I've got a "comprehensive" peace plan.

Palestinians; stop engaging in acts of (genocidally-minded) terrorism; that way, the Israelis won't have to shoot back.

Does this make me just as smart as King Abdullah?

(No need to bow to me, folks)

529 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:38am

re: #525 johnnyreb

Not suddenly disciplined, the One is in charge. They don't want to do anything to upset his administration.

Yeah, maybe they feel it's bad timing in relationship to the tour. Wouldn't want reporting on terrorist activity spoiling a perfectly nice romp in the Middle East.

530 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:52am

re: #510 johnnyreb
Well you certainly could be right about that - although you need to consider your source: Fox News.

531 livefreeor die  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:53:03am

re: #410 MandyManners

Albermarle School District sucks.

My son's middle school will be jealous that they didn't think of this first.

532 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:53:08am

re: #521 realwest
Morning real. Yes, the second one is still alive.

533 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:53:21am

re: #505 realwest
Jes' fine. Getting ready to go to work! Baaah!

534 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:53:28am

re: #426 MandyManners

It is important to note that "if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world".

WTF? We have more Muslims than India? Pakistan? Indonesia?

HE'S CALLING THIS NATION A MUSLIM NATION.

Remember when anyone who questioned Obama's possible Muslim sympathies was treatd like a kook or a hateful racist?

535 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:54:30am

Crud monkeys. The Kid got ahold of the central vac's pole attachment and pretended it was a light sabre. Now the two-part pole is stuck together. Ah, shit. I didn't wanna' vaccuum today.

536 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:54:44am

re: #506 realwest

Great here, thanks. Hope you are too.

537 spudly  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:54:46am

The Admin likely doesn't want loads of "Islamic Terrorist" stuff splashed in the news at the exact moment he talks nicely about Islam in Egypt.

538 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:00am

re: #530 realwest

Thats why I used the word "may"

539 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:20am

re: #528 Occasional Reader

Good morning. Light posting in store for today, since work is quite busy. But first... "check out the big brain on Todd Beeb":


Hey, I've got a "comprehensive" peace plan.

Palestinians; stop engaging in acts of (genocidally-minded) terrorism; that way, the Israelis won't have to shoot back.

Does this make me just as smart as King Abdullah?

(No need to bow to me, folks)

I bet you'd look better with a goatee.

540 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:20am

I would also point out that the terrorist who bombed the Cole and killed some of our sailors was let go by this CIC too.

Anybody see a pattern developing here?

541 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:23am

re: #511 redstateredneck

You can count on me, plus I already know your secret identity.
;-)

Thanks, redstate. :)

542 bloodnok  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:47am

re: #535 MandyManners

Crud monkeys. The Kid got ahold of the central vac's pole attachment and pretended it was a light sabre. Now the two-part pole is stuck together. Ah, shit. I didn't wanna' vaccuum today.

I needed that laugh this morning. Thanks, Mandy!

543 livefreeor die  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:58am

re: #527 SixDegrees

Quite likely. The large number (13?) of terrorism charges brought against the accused within hours suggests that there's more to this than is currently being released.

And drawing attention to it hurts the One's agenda of sucking up to all the countries he's visiting this week.

544 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:00am

re: #535 MandyManners
If ya REALLY want to vacumn ,I can tell ya
how to fix that...Or Not!
LOL

545 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:08am

re: #508 FrogMarch

Your excellent link deserves quoting:


Le Monde is reporting that Barack Obama told France’s Canal + Tuesday that “les Etats-Unis sont l’un des plus grands pays musulmans“. My French is not as good as it used to be, but I sure know what that means without recourse to a dictionary or Google: The United States is one of the largest Muslim countries on the planet.

Is that the USA of the 57 states?

I guess it depends on what your definition of “one of” is. According to Wikipedia, the US ranks thirty-eighth with a Muslim population of some 4.5 million (about one and half percent of our population). Indonesia is first at over two hundred and seven million.

Our leader goes on to remonstrate with our citizenry about educating ourselves about Islam, which is, in his words, a religion that has always “evolved along with progress.” I suppose that’s true if you disregard women’s rights, gay rights and the basic democratic need for the primacy of state law for all citizens, not to mention a host of other values we could group under the rubric of the Enlightenment. The problem with Obama’s implication that we are not educated about Islam is that he is dead wrong. Many of us now are - by necessity. We know the difference between Medina and Mecca Korans (and their views of jihad), between Sunni and Shiite and so forth. We also know what dhimmi law is… and taqqiya.

Obama knows how to pitch to his politically-correct, cultural-relativist leftist base. If he peppers his speech with stand-up material like this, he'll have them rolling in the aisles at Cairo University.

546 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:15am

re: #534 opnion

Remember when anyone who questioned Obama's possible Muslim sympathies was treatd like a kook or a hateful racist?

Heck, ANY questions were used to paint the asker as a racist. I remember when some professors said that asking about his socialist policies was racist. (I have a vague notion that the professors were from some university in Kansas but, I could be wrong.)

547 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:26am

re: #536 rightside
Glad to hear it my friend - I'm doing ok too, thanks!

548 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:54am

re: #537 spudly

The Admin likely doesn't want loads of "Islamic Terrorist" stuff splashed in the news at the exact moment he talks nicely about Islam in Egypt.

Gee. Talk about your inconvenient truth!

549 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:58:00am

re: #535 MandyManners
{Mandy} Wish your boy had some neighbor kids to keep themselves busy!

550 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:58:06am

re: #543 livefreeor die

We will have to be strong again in response to the mess we will get from Obama's continual projection of weakness, of apologies, etc etc.

The guy is clueless.

551 Ateam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:58:19am

re: #483 VioletTiger

I am still trying to make sense out of this statement.
I think he was disingenuous about his background during the campaign. I don't see why having a Muslim background is a 'smear', any more than any other background. Now all of a sudden he appears to be embracing his background, which he should have done all along IMO.

And to say we may be one of the largest Muslim nations after he said we are not a Christian nation, just shows his continued lack of astuteness. Does he expect that people won't react to this statement or does he just not care? It sure made my blood pressure go up a few notches. I am willing to agree that we as a nation can't really claim an official religious affiliation, but if we are not Christian, we sure as hell aren't muslim or any other religion.

"According to a 2007 survey, 78.4% of adults identified themselves as Christian,[139]...The total reporting non-Christian religions in 2007 was 4.7%, up from 3.3% in 1990.[140] The leading non-Christian faiths were Judaism (1.7%), Buddhism (0.7%), Islam (0.6%), Hinduism (0.4%), and Unitarian Universalism (0.3%).[139] From 8.2% in 1990,[140] 16.1% in 2007 described themselves as agnostic, atheist, or simply having no religion,[139] "
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

552 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:58:50am

re: #540 3 wood

I would also point out that the terrorist who bombed the Cole and killed some of our sailors was let go by this CIC too.

Anybody see a pattern developing here?

I don't know if a pattern is developing as much as being revealed.

553 johnnyreb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:03am

re: #534 opnion

Remember when anyone who questioned Obama's possible Muslim sympathies was treatd like a kook or a hateful racist?

IIRC there was quite a bit of that going on here also.

554 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:14am

re: #542 bloodnok

I needed that laugh this morning. Thanks, Mandy!

I'm trying to work on my freakin' language.

555 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:26am

re: #540 3 wood

I would also point out that the terrorist who bombed the Cole and killed some of our sailors was let go by this CIC too.

Anybody see a pattern developing here?

Yes, it's called The Obama Doctrine of Preemptive Surrender.

556 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:44am

re: #549 pingjockey

Yeh, Right!
They couldn't get in any trouble running in a pack!

557 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:48am

re: #544 reloadingisnotahobby

If ya REALLY want to vacumn ,I can tell ya
how to fix that...Or Not!
LOL

LALALALALALALALAAAICAN'THEARYOULALALALALALA

558 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:52am

re: #552 MandyManners

I don't know if a pattern is developing as much as being revealed.

or simply being reinforced.

559 FrogMarch  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:19am

re: #515 realwest

Hey FrogMarch - why does it have to be either/or - Obama and Biden could be BOTH be lying and stupid (well, certainly Biden could be).

Howdy Real.
Both. Why didn't I think of that? /sprinkle a little willing-to-bullshit-in-front-of-fawning-audience-and-hope-the-press-won't-notice-wink-wink.

560 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:29am

re: #554 MandyManners
Good Frakkin' luck!
Later folks!

561 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:01:20am

For a while there I thought I was getting a grip on the 489 links I have about FCBBHO but, I'm adding more today. Dagnabit.

562 bloodnok  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:01:41am

re: #554 MandyManners

I'm trying to work on my freakin' language.

The language can change, but the sense of humor behind the words will always be there. You rock, Mandy.

563 lincolntf  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:02:02am

re: #534 opnion

Yup. It was tantamount to a hate crime to mention the man's middle name. Mention his past and you were a card-carrying Klansmen with a tinfoil hood.
Freedom of speech has survived the politicians, but it'll never survive the tag team of political correctness and the Leftist MSM.

564 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:02:31am

We ARE one of... heck, THE largest Muslim nation. Don't forget, CAIR estimates the number of Muslims in the US at just a hair under 3.5 billion. All of whom, by the way, are members of CAIR. According to CAIR.

565 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:02:55am
566 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:10am

re: #549 pingjockey

{Mandy} Wish your boy had some neighbor kids to keep themselves busy!

Strength in numbers.

567 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:23am

re: #528 Occasional Reader

Good morning. Light posting in store for today, since work is quite busy. But first... "check out the big brain on Todd Beeb":

Hey, I've got a "comprehensive" peace plan.

Palestinians; stop engaging in acts of (genocidally-minded) terrorism; that way, the Israelis won't have to shoot back.

Does this make me just as smart as King Abdullah?

(No need to bow to me, folks)

I like yours better than the Saudis, which is summed up by:
"We'll give the 'refugees' no place to go other than Israel and the Palestinian terrortories, until Israel becomes another Palestinian state, and then all the Arab countries will recognize it."

568 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:33am

re: #555 Kenneth

Yes, it's called The Obama Doctrine of Preemptive Surrender.

Taking notes from the Fwench?

569 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:04:23am

re: #558 Pianobuff

or simply being reinforced.

It doesn't bode well for us.

570 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:04:52am

re: #562 bloodnok

Awww.

*smoochie*

571 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:04:54am

re: #559 FrogMarch

Idn't sad!
I can't trust my Pres... even if he does something I
agree with! IE (Gitmo photo's)
I always feel his agenda is not what he says!
If He told me the sky was blue,I'd atomatically go
to the door and step outside...

572 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:08am

re: #426 MandyManners

It is important to note that "if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world".

WTF? We have more Muslims than India? Pakistan? Indonesia?

HE'S CALLING THIS NATION A MUSLIM NATION.

Maybe that's his plan; he's going to announce a massive conversion of the US.
/I doubt it, and it wouldn't work

573 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:26am
574 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:31am
575 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:42am

re: #546 MandyManners

Heck, ANY questions were used to paint the asker as a racist. I remember when some professors said that asking about his socialist policies was racist. (I have a vague notion that the professors were from some university in Kansas but, I could be wrong.)

When FNC falsely reported that Obama attended a Madrassa in Inonesia( which they corrected the next day) , NBC sentr a teak to Jakarta to carify the record.
They located the public school that he was enrolled in & interviewed the current head master. Turns out BHO was enrolled as a Muslim at the PUBLIC school & took Islamic instruction. Actually it was Koranic which is considered advanced. ABC felt really good about itself.

576 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:53am

re: #564 Occasional Reader

We ARE one of... heck, THE largest Muslim nation. Don't forget, CAIR estimates the number of Muslims in the US at just a hair under 3.5 billion. All of whom, by the way, are members of CAIR. According to CAIR.

And! They all VOTED!(two...three times)

577 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:53am

re: #550 Ojoe
Good morning Ojoe! Thanks for the shot (upthread) from the Mt. Wilson observatory! BTW, Obama is NOT clueless. He's busy trying to defuse (pun intended) the Iran/Nuke thing by inviting them to attend our, OUR, Fourth Of July celebrations at our embassies around the world.
Of course, he couldn't invite them to our embassy in Teheran, since it's been occupied by the Iranians since 1979.

578 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:06:13am

re: #568 MandyManners

At least the French waited till the German army invaded before surrendering. Obama is being preemptive in his supine posture.

579 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:07:04am

re: #567 Kosh's Shadow

I like yours better than the Saudis, which is summed up by:
"We'll give the 'refugees' no place to go other than Israel and the Palestinian terrortories, until Israel becomes another Palestinian state, and then all the Arab countries will recognize it."

See? It calls for the comprehensive elimination of Israel.

580 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:07:07am

re: #552 MandyManners

I don't know if a pattern is developing as much as being revealed.


Good morning Mandy - just an excellent comment.

581 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:07:31am

re: #578 Kenneth

LOL sort of...
He didn't bow to the King...He was grabing his ankles!

582 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:07:37am

I wish some of the democrats would just come out of the closet ... put a fricken "S" after your name ... you are not fooling anyone ... just come out and call it like it is ... Socialist ... and don't give me that fricken Progressive crap ...

/oh, I know the people who will down ding this ... go ahead ... you know you want to ...

583 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:08:11am

re: #577 realwest

by inviting them to attend our, OUR, Fourth Of July celebrations at our embassies around the world

One small consolation; the food usually sucks.

584 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:08:26am

re: #553 johnnyreb

IIRC there was quite a bit of that going on here also.

The irony here is just too much. Any mention of Islam & BHO was off limits when he was selling the Christian thing, now that he sess some advantage he parades out his Muslim background.
This could backfire, if God forbid there is another attack on U.S soil.
Obama is creating sound bites.

585 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:08:28am

re: #577 realwest

This mess goes back to the irresoluteness of James Carter, doesn't it?


BBL ... got to get kids fed breakfast.

Then some work, a dinky job at least.

Will be back this evening.

586 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:08:53am

re: #582 JacksonTn

Up ding Jackson!

587 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:03am

re: #572 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe that's his plan; he's going to announce a massive conversion of the US.
/I doubt it, and it wouldn't work

Remember the letters ShortShit sent, telling us to convert?

588 spudly  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:29am

The press likes to talk about the "Muslim Street." How do you think they will react to any sign of weakness on the part of the US WRT to Islam? Seems clear they will read it (and the government-controlled Egyptian press will push it) that the US is admitting the primacy of Islam, etc.

It doesn't matter what BHO actually says, really, it matters what the Muslim world THINKS he said after the fact. If they think he is bending over to Islam it will embolden them, I think.

589 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:41am

re: #551 Ateam

"According to a 2007 survey, 78.4% of adults identified themselves as Christian,[139]...The total reporting non-Christian religions in 2007 was 4.7%, up from 3.3% in 1990.[140] The leading non-Christian faiths were Judaism (1.7%), Buddhism (0.7%), Islam (0.6%), Hinduism (0.4%), and Unitarian Universalism (0.3%).[139] From 8.2% in 1990,[140] 16.1% in 2007 described themselves as agnostic, atheist, or simply having no religion,[139] "
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Thanks for that. I would also be interested if anyone could find any evidence of major contributions to American history by Muslims.

590 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:45am

Ich bin ein Mussulman

President Obama says one of the goals his trip is to foster dialogue between the West and the Muslim world. Maybe some communications strategist or public diplomacy consultant has advised “rebranding America” as the sort of place Muslims can identify with. That way it will be an easy sell. What better way to do it than by saying, ‘America is one of the biggest Muslim countries on the planet’. Ich bin ein Mussulman, or however you say it. That won’t necessarily fly; it doesn’t seem to work too well for India, which has a genuinely huge Muslim population. But there’s a hidden danger. His audience can say right: just look at how advanced and rich America is, and it’s one of the largest Muslim countries on the planet. See nothing is broken in Islam. America is proof. There comes a point when rebranding may become misleading packaging.

591 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:46am

re: #573 momcat

More pancaakes anyone?

I need something to cut the caffeine.

Oh, wait. Maybe I should just put down the mug.

592 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:55am

re: #585 Ojoe

This mess goes back to the irresoluteness of James Carter, doesn't it?

BBL ... got to get kids fed breakfast.

Then some work, a dinky job at least.

Will be back this evening.

And now, we have Carter, the Sequel.
And sequels are worse than the original. I think this is like Caddyshack and Caddyshack 2.

593 badger1970  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:56am

re: #473 pingjockey

The only saving grace is their cuteness. So far, two Nintendo game pads, speaker wire, power adapter to said Nintendo, usb cable to laptop cooling plate, power cable to clock radio and a hole in a pair of work khaki's. I feel like a bad parent, but he has his toys and spends the day at my ex's with her beagle.

594 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:09am

re: #585 Ojoe

got to get kids fed breakfast.

OMG... even breakfast has been federalized!

595 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:23am

You know, guys, before we get all huffy with the MSM about the non-event that the soldier murder is becoming, perhaps we should look at us.

We're interested, curious, and involved about the matter.

How many threads here concern the soldier murder as opposed to the abortion doctor murder?

596 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:29am

re: #561 MandyManners
Um, has anyone suggested you're using "folders" for Obama? Just suggesting. I hadda do that with my Music Favorites. Obama, not so much - all I need or want to know about him is already captured in a Folder.

597 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:11:07am

re: #587 MandyManners

Remember the letters ShortShit sent, telling us to convert?

Yes. He hasn't sent any since Obama has been in office.
Maybe the next one will have a picture of a mushroom cloud, and will say "Convert, or else!"

598 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:11:18am

re: #575 opnion

When FNC falsely reported that Obama attended a Madrassa in Inonesia( which they corrected the next day) , NBC sentr a teak to Jakarta to carify the record.
They located the public school that he was enrolled in & interviewed the current head master. Turns out BHO was enrolled as a Muslim at the PUBLIC school & took Islamic instruction. Actually it was Koranic which is considered advanced. ABC felt really good about itself.

Aren't all kids in public school in Indonesia supposed to be Muslims?


I won't hold against him the decisions made by his mom when he was a kid.

599 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:11:18am
600 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:11:34am

At this time I would like to announce that I AM SHITSCARED FOR THE FATE OF THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY.

I'm also quite pissed after you know who decided to stop stuffing his face for a moment to say something about the future of GM.

/auto enthusiast at heart ;_;

601 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:11:52am

re: #578 Kenneth

At least the French waited till the German army invaded before surrendering. Obama is being preemptive in his supine posture.


Gradualism?

602 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:12:16am

re: #580 realwest

Good morning Mandy - just an excellent comment.

Thank you!

603 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:13:53am

re: #554 MandyManners

I'm trying to work on my freakin' language.

I encourage you in that endeavor.

I grew up in a household where profanity was used that would make a longshoreman, or Patty Blagojevich, blush. I of course adopted much the same usage as a young man. Then certain events took place that made me decide to change my speech patterns.

I have never regretted that change.

604 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:14:04am
605 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:14:08am

re: #589 doppelganglander

Most Famous American Muslims

Cassius Clay
Malcolm X
Mike Tyson
John Coltrane
Dr. Sherman Jackson
Louis Farrakhan
Keith Ellison
Timothy Drew
Fareed Zakaria
Duse Muhammad Ali
Michael Jackson

Take from the list what you will.

606 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:14:34am

re: #578 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth! Well you know what they say about the early bird getting the worm!

607 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:14:42am

re: #599 taxfreekiller

tfk - just wondering, you aren't related to the family that owns those ski resort(s), are you?

/wondering why you keep linking to the same website over and over.

608 Irish Rose  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:14:52am

Good morning, dear friends.
Hows' everyone?

609 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:14:58am

re: #591 MandyManners

Careful, as your prescribing physician, I have to warn you that food can interfere with proper caffeine absorption.

610 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:15:10am
611 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:15:16am

re: #603 3 wood

Good for you!
Cause it sounds like shit and dosn't mean a fucking thing!
Sorry...

612 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:15:17am

re: #596 realwest

Um, has anyone suggested you're using "folders" for Obama? Just suggesting. I hadda do that with my Music Favorites. Obama, not so much - all I need or want to know about him is already captured in a Folder.

I have about 2,500 links saved but I've been sending the FCBBHO ones to an alternate e-addy. I've more steps that I won't bore you with.

613 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:15:46am

re: #600 laZardo

At this time I would like to announce that I AM SHITSCARED FOR THE FATE OF THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY.

I'm also quite pissed after you know who decided to stop stuffing his face for a moment to say something about the future of GM.

/auto enthusiast at heart ;_;

I posted from Moores rant 2 days ago. One of the "demands" he made was an immediate $2.00 per GALLON hoke in the gas tax to MAKE us conserve fuel and to FORCE the demand of buses manufactured at the closed car plants

His other big "demand" was to take the $30 billion given to the car companies and not spend it on production but hire back paid off workers and pay them (ostensibly to do nothing seeing he also calls for cuts in manufacturing)

614 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:15:54am

re: #597 Kosh's Shadow

Yes. He hasn't sent any since Obama has been in office.
Maybe the next one will have a picture of a mushroom cloud, and will say "Convert, or else!"

That's right. I wonder why not.

615 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:16:44am

re: #603 3 wood

I encourage you in that endeavor.

I grew up in a household where profanity was used that would make a longshoreman, or Patty Blagojevich, blush. I of course adopted much the same usage as a young man. Then certain events took place that made me decide to change my speech patterns.

I have never regretted that change.

I keep bad language to myself around The Kid.

616 rightside  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:17:10am

re: #605 Kenneth

Cat Stevens too.

617 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:17:16am

re: #583 Occasional Reader

One small consolation; the food usually sucks.

A better consolation would be if the food - as homage to Obama's state of birth - were to be a pig roasting "luau".

618 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:17:20am

re: #604 momcat

OH no!More caffeine, more caffeine...

I'll hafta' tie my feet to the chair to keep me from hovering.

619 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:17:30am

re: #584 opnion

The irony here is just too much. Any mention of Islam & BHO was off limits when he was selling the Christian thing, now that he sess some advantage he parades out his Muslim background.
This could backfire, if God forbid there is another attack on U.S soil.
Obama is creating sound bites.

I consider the assisination of the Solider as an act of terrorism in the US, and apparently so does the DOJ. But I get where you are coming from.

620 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:17:41am

re: #606 realwest

Good morning! The early bird may get the worm, but I'd be happy with a cup of coffee and a fresh baked muffin.

621 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:17:44am
622 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:18:05am

re: #609 Kenneth

Careful, as your prescribing physician, I have to warn you that food can interfere with proper caffeine absorption.

I'm cutting it with water.

623 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:18:32am

re: #616 rightside

Cat Stevens too.

Cat Stevens is not American. In fact, he's not even a cat.

624 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:19:02am

I'm being followed by a big Muslim, big Muslim, big Muslim.

625 KansasMom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:19:12am

Is this a coffee thread?
They opened a Starbucks stand AT MY WORK. It has killed my diet.

626 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:19:16am

re: #621 taxfreekiller


If global warming/climate change were real, there would be no f'n snow.

There is summer snow above certain elevations.

627 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:19:35am
628 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:20:02am

Dead man talking (again)...
Purported bin Laden tape slams U.S. role in Pakistan

Al-Jazeera, the Arabic-language TV network, aired segments of what it said was a "voice recording by bin Laden." This message comes as President Obama begins his trip to the Middle East, where he is visiting Saudi Arabia on Wednesday and, in Egypt on Thursday, is to make a major speech to the Muslim world.


Another audio recording. We haven't seen proof of life since around 2003. There's little doubt the guy is dead.

629 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:20:30am

re: #609 Kenneth

did you miss "The National" on CBC last night? In the event you did, there was a report (iirc) from Nova Scotia (somewhere out east), anywho, now the "justice" system of that province has decided it's perfectly "ok" to evict people based on neighbor's reports (complaints to the police). Sooo, they showed a fellow's house being boarded up (he owned the house, but was given a judge's eviction order), and he was shown driving off with his wife and kids -- the neighbor's didn't like 'im, I guess...(unbelievable...)

630 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:20:53am

re: #589 doppelganglander

Thanks for that. I would also be interested if anyone could find any evidence of major contributions to American history by Muslims.

The Prophet once owned a convenience store in Peoria.

631 SecondComing  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:21:31am

Is anyone else intrigued by the Bill Ayer's ad that is continually on this site?

632 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:21:36am

re: #589 doppelganglander

Thanks for that. I would also be interested if anyone could find any evidence of major contributions to American history by Muslims.

Good morning to you. There's plenty of evidence of major contributions by Muslims to the election of our first Black President, if y'all dig deep enough!
Oh, wait, you said contributions to American History, not current events.
nevermind.
/

633 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:21:45am
634 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:01am

Oh, forgot to add -- the complaints, of course, are all anonymous -- no way of knowing who it is that's doing the "complaining" to the cops...

635 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:29am

re: #624 MandyManners

Everybody blow up the peace train!

636 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:35am

re: #625 KansasMom

Is this a coffee thread?
They opened a Starbucks stand AT MY WORK. It has killed my diet.

Year's ago my mom joined NutriSystem to lose 20 pounds. One thing she had to cut out was caffeine because it increases appetite.

637 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:39am

Get ready to seethe: Obama bows again!
Yahoo pic


President Barack Obama receives a gift from Saudi King Abdullah at the start of their bilateral meeting at the King's Farm in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Wednesday, June 3, 2009.
638 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:49am

re: #628 Killgore Trout

Dead man talking (again)...
Purported bin Laden tape slams U.S. role in Pakistan


Another audio recording. We haven't seen proof of life since around 2003. There's little doubt the guy is dead.

This one (according to WBZ radio in Boston) complained about the US making Muslims leave Swat.
Funny, I thought they were leaving because they hate Osama's friends, the Taliban.
I wonder who they have impersonating him? And look at how backwards they are. If they had our Hollywood technology, they could make him come alive with the latest special effects.

639 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:23:17am

re: #637 Killgore Trout

that's old news...

640 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:23:28am

Funny how our left wing posters are quiet this morning.

641 KenJen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:23:49am

re: #624 MandyManners

I'm being followed by a big Muslim, big Muslim, big Muslim.

My favorite is "I'm Look'in for a Burka Headed Woman"

642 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:23:50am

re: #619 JohnnyReb

I consider the assisination of the Solider as an act of terrorism in the US, and apparently so does the DOJ. But I get where you are coming from.

It is an act of terrorism, but it is kind of being treted as a random act of
violence. The guy apparently had other targets. The FBI had an interest in him & I wonder if they have interviewed the guys Imam.

643 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:24:04am

re: #629 J.S.

I never watch the CBC anymore. The smug tone and overwhelming leftist bias make me sick. But thanks for the update.

644 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:24:19am

re: #631 SecondComing

Is anyone else intrigued by the Bill Ayer's ad that is continually on this site?

More like repelled.

645 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:24:21am
646 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:24:56am

re: #637 Killgore Trout

Get ready to seethe: Obama bows again!
Yahoo pic

I WAN' A PONEEE.

647 KansasMom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:17am

re: #636 MandyManners

Year's ago my mom joined NutriSystem to lose 20 pounds. One thing she had to cut out was caffeine because it increases appetite.

In my case, appetite for more latte's!

648 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:17am

Nancy Reagan to Obama: "Oh, so you're a lefty!"

649 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:27am

re: #641 KenJen

My favorite is "I'm Look'in for a Burka Headed Woman"

Which song does that parody?

650 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:27am

re: #645 Killgore Trout

Obama 's thinking "wooohooo BLING"...

651 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:29am

I think we need a real Canadian Civil Liberties association -- something other than demanding freedom for murderous terrorists...how about something a little more mundane, like protecting Canadians from anonymous persecutors?

652 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:32am

re: #639 J.S.

Has the outrage already come and gone?

653 KenJen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:33am

re: #640 3 wood

Funny how our left wing posters are quiet this morning.

Probably glued to the T.V. watching Obama's "historic" field trip.

654 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:57am

I guess that had Abdulhakim Muhammad had a bit more time he may have become better known...additional targets?

Little Rock - Law enforcement authorities say officers found evidence that the man charged with the Arkansas military recruiter shooting might have considered other targets.

A joint FBI (web) -Homeland Security intelligence assessment obtained by The Associated Press said officers found maps to Jewish organizations, a child care center, a Baptist church, a post office and military recruiting centers in the southeastern U.S. and New York and Philadelphia.

655 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:07am

re: #637 Killgore Trout

Get ready to seethe: Obama bows again!
Yahoo pic

Come on now Kilgoe, nobody will call that a bow, but he does have on a nice suit.

656 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:08am

re: #588 spudly

The press likes to talk about the "Muslim Street." How do you think they will react to any sign of weakness on the part of the US WRT to Islam?

"We be a religion of peace, dawg. Rollin' up wit' the AKs and Toyota Hiluxes on they original steel rims, keepin' it real."

657 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:11am

re: #645 Killgore Trout

"My, what a big box you have."

That's some major bling-bling.

658 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:17am

re: #647 KansasMom

In my case, appetite for more latte's!

Sugar and cream?

659 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:17am

re: #628 Killgore Trout

Dead man talking (again)...
Purported bin Laden tape slams U.S. role in Pakistan


Another audio recording. We haven't seen proof of life since around 2003. There's little doubt the guy is dead.

OR in such horrible physical condition that he wouldn';t want his followers to see him that way

think FDR never photographed in the wheel chair during WW2,,, Hitler in his last days with the hand shaking and termbling. In that the CIA (last I heard) was still authenticating it was his (Osama's) voice (yes , that technology is NOT just on the TV cop shows) I still want to see a BODY!

660 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:17am

re: #637 Killgore Trout

They were seething before that pic got online... what more could an image do?

661 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:18am

re: #652 Killgore Trout

What outrage?

662 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:29am

re: #600 laZardo
Good morning laZardo! Hey don't freak out - y'all can still get that Hummer you were dreaming about, ya just gotta import it from China now.
But watch out for the paint job; I understand there are rumors about the Chinese using lead based paint on their new, prestigious line of trucks!

663 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:35am

re: #605 Kenneth
I thought that the Jackson family was Mormon.

664 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:57am
665 KenJen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:27:20am

re: #649 MandyManners

Which song does that parody?

Look'in for a Hard Headed Woman.

666 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:27:24am

re: #635 Kenneth

Everybody blow up the peace train!

Are you asking me to repost this?

Peace Train my ass.

I published this a while ago, needs a reprint.

New version - changes in bold

Peace Train

by Cat Stevens Youssef Islam

Now I've been happy lately, thinking about the good things to come
And I believe it could be, everyone turns to Islam

Oh I've been smiling lately, dreaming about the world as one
And I believe it could be, some day it's going to come

Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train
Oh peace train, I'll show them, come take me home again

Now I've been smiling lately, thinking about the good things to come
And I believe it could be, everyone will be Muslim

Oh peace train sounding louder
Blow up the peace train
Come on now peace train
Yes, peace train Allah Ackbar!

Everyone blow up the peace train
Come on now peace train

Get your bags together, get your bombs and nails
Cause it's getting nearer, it soon will be with you

Now come and join the dying, it's not so far from you
And it's getting nearer, soon it will all be BOOM!

Now I've been crying lately, thinking about the world as it is
Why must we go on letting Jews live; we can't be at peace with them.

Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train
Oh peace train take this country, come take me home again

667 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:27:25am

re: #651 J.S.

I think we need a real Canadian Civil Liberties association -- something other than demanding freedom for murderous terrorists...how about something a little more mundane, like protecting Canadians from anonymous persecutors?

Folks should raise hell about being tried and convicted without ever having the chance to face their accusers in open court.

668 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:00am

re: #637 Killgore Trout

Get ready to seethe: Obama bows again!
Yahoo pic

See, now THERE Obama is bowing his head so that King Abbie can hang a medal around it, just as Bush did. Nothing wrong with that (as a physical gesture... whether the POTUS should be getting medals from a Saudi despot, that's another matter). This is NOT the same as the "bow" Obama did previously.

669 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:06am

re: #665 KenJen

Look'in for a Hard Headed Woman.

I've never heard that one.

670 KansasMom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:17am

re: #658 MandyManners

Sugar and cream?

My current poisen is a grande skinny vanilla latte. Skim milk, sugar free syrup. Still way too many calories!

671 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:34am

re: #664 momcat

Did the one give them anything?

Probably some DVD's of a crappy 1980's tv show.

672 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:39am

See... now you've done it KT...

673 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:42am

re: #613 sattv4u2

I posted from Moores rant 2 days ago. One of the "demands" he made was an immediate $2.00 per GALLON hoke in the gas tax to MAKE us conserve fuel and to FORCE the demand of buses manufactured at the closed car plants

His other big "demand" was to take the $30 billion given to the car companies and not spend it on production but hire back paid off workers and pay them (ostensibly to do nothing seeing he also calls for cuts in manufacturing)

And he wants the UAW to be at the forefront. Hurrr.

/Solidarity was a good labor union. UAW...not nearly so much.

674 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:48am

re: #643 Kenneth

I never watch the CBC anymore. The smug tone and overwhelming leftist bias make me sick. But thanks for the update.

You mean the Canadian Broadcorping Castration?

675 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:48am

re: #608 Irish Rose
Good morning Irish Rose. More important question is how are YOU doing today? Things starting to work out with your youngest son, I hope?

676 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:51am

re: #667 MandyManners

yeah, but this is Canad-duh...they don't get upset...it's just a big yawn...or a "So what?"

677 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:57am

re: #663 VioletTiger

Michael converted a few months ago. One of his brother's converted several years ago.

678 KansasMom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:07am

re: #663 VioletTiger

I thought that the Jackson family was Mormon.

Jehovas Witness. Not sure what Michael's religion is...he may not even be human anymore.

679 SecondComing  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:24am

re: #653 KenJen

Probably glued to the T.V. watching Obama's "historic" field trip.

"historic" Field trip hahaha. I would give you 100 updings if i could for that one.

680 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:26am

re: #669 MandyManners

681 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:38am

re: #600 laZardo

At this time I would like to announce that I AM SHITSCARED FOR THE FATE OF THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY.

I'm also quite pissed after you know who decided to stop stuffing his face for a moment to say something about the future of GM.

/auto enthusiast at heart ;_;

Obama has thrown Detroit under the bus and told them they will stay there for a long, long time. He said some bullshit about all the unemployed auto industry workers being "trained for new green jobs" but nobody has a freaking clue what a "green job" is.

682 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:44am

re: #663 VioletTiger

I thought that the Jackson family was Mormon.

You're thinking of the Osmonds, not the Jacksons

683 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:45am

re: #670 KansasMom

My current poisen is a grande skinny vanilla latte. Skim milk, sugar free syrup. Still way too many calories!

Maybe give up something else?

684 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:50am

re: #650 reloadingisnotahobby

Obama 's thinking "wooohooo BLING"...

Or is it showing the US is tied by a gold chain to the Saudis?
(Gold only because oil doesn't make a good chain.)

685 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:30:25am

re: #676 J.S.

yeah, but this is Canad-duh...they don't get upset...it's just a big yawn...or a "So what?"

Ya'll need to stop being so nice.

686 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:30:30am

re: #671 Killgore Trout

Probably some DVD's of a crappy 1980's tv show.

King Abdullah's fascination with "Punky Brewster" is no secret.

687 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:31:08am

re: #616 rightside
I thought Mr. Peace Train was British, no?!

688 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:31:27am

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

689 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:31:29am

re: #663 VioletTiger

I thought that the Jackson family was Mormon.

No, originally Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't know who they associate with now. Michael was eventually disfellowshipped because the was counseled by Elders to stop or tone down the entertainment career, and he wouldn't.

690 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:31:33am

re: #680 Kenneth



That's pretty.

691 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:31:43am

re: #666 Kosh's Shadow

Wow. I didn't know you posted that before. I thought I was being clever, but I doff my hat to the master! Brilliant.

692 KansasMom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:31:54am

re: #683 MandyManners

Maybe give up something else?

Best possible thing would be to ADD more exercise! I sit down all day for a living! Starbucks certainly doesn't help, but gawd I love the stuff.

693 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:31:55am

re: #662 realwest

Good morning laZardo! Hey don't freak out - y'all can still get that Hummer you were dreaming about, ya just gotta import it from China now.
But watch out for the paint job; I understand there are rumors about the Chinese using lead based paint on their new, prestigious line of trucks!

Meh, I never liked the H2s and H3s and besides which, I already got the heads up from the melamine scare. ;p Thanks for caring though.

/more into these kind of cars, but performance and affordability are quickly becoming oxymorons. ;_;

694 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:32:05am

re: #671 Killgore Trout

Probably some DVD's of a crappy 1980's tv show.

"Alladin" or "Ali Babba and the Forty Thieves".

695 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:32:16am

re: #681 Alouette

Obama has thrown Detroit under the bus and told them they will stay there for a long, long time. He said some bullshit about all the unemployed auto industry workers being "trained for new green jobs" but nobody has a freaking clue what a "green job" is.

I do. On my way to work each morning there are county inmates along the roads picking up trash from the sides of the roads where the grass and bushes are. Makes everything look so purdy!

696 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:32:30am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

KT ... yes ... but did you hear ... it is okay to say Hussein! hooray! ...

697 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:32:47am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

Yes. That is not a well-known fact, or one generally associated with Tut.

(That said, I find the Drudge caption kind of dumb.)

698 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:32:49am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

Maybe.

Did Drudge know Tut's history?

699 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:33:03am

re: #691 Kenneth

Wow. I didn't know you posted that before. I thought I was being clever, but I doff my hat to the master! Brilliant.

Thanks.
I think I first posted Blow Up The Peace Train several years ago, but it is worth being dragged out every so often.

700 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:33:10am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

probably. The author of the headline most likely didn't think it out that far

701 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:33:17am

re: #623 Kenneth

Cat Stevens is not American. In fact, he's not even a cat.


Well I thought that first part about not being an American was right too (see my #687) but are you sure about the cat thingy?!

702 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:33:18am

re: #686 Occasional Reader

Do you think His Highness would enjoy "I Dream of Jeanie, The Collectors Edition"?

703 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:33:43am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

yes.

704 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:33:47am

re: #692 KansasMom

Best possible thing would be to ADD more exercise! I sit down all day for a living! Starbucks certainly doesn't help, but gawd I love the stuff.

What usually helps me lose a few pounds is to substitute all snacks with celery, lettuce, carrots, cucumbers, et cet.. I love rabbit food.

705 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:33:49am

...and Drudge actually does has a new bowing scandal:" NBCNEWS ANCHOR BOWS BEFORE OBAMA? "

Seethe, monkeys! Seethe!

706 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:34:00am

re: #690 MandyManners

Once upon a time, he wrote some good pop tunes. Then he turned into an asshat. It happens.

707 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:34:13am

re: #689 Walter L. Newton

No, originally Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't know who they associate with now. Michael was eventually disfellowshipped because the was counseled by Elders to stop or tone down the entertainment career, and he wouldn't.

I think that Michael was recruited by brother Jeramine to the RoP.

708 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:34:18am
709 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:34:31am

re: #705 Killgore Trout

...and Drudge actually does has a new bowing scandal:" NBCNEWS ANCHOR BOWS BEFORE OBAMA? "

Seethe, monkeys! Seethe!

KT .. Racist ...

710 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:34:40am

re: #613 sattv4u2

I posted from Moores rant 2 days ago. One of the "demands" he made was an immediate $2.00 per GALLON hoke in the gas tax to MAKE us conserve fuel and to FORCE the demand of buses manufactured at the closed car plants

His other big "demand" was to take the $30 billion given to the car companies and not spend it on production but hire back paid off workers and pay them (ostensibly to do nothing seeing he also calls for cuts in manufacturing)

How about he donates the money he spends on food to support all the unemployed automotive industry workers and their families?

711 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:34:46am

re: #694 redstateredneck

"Alladin" or "Ali Babba and the Forty Thieves".

A gift certificate for the to-be-made movie, a sequel to Lawrence of Arabia, called Obama of Arabia.

712 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:34:49am

re: #697 Occasional Reader

"Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

That is not a well-known fact, or one generally associated with Tut.

So it's not ukamen knowledge?

713 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:01am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

Nope, par for the course.

714 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:04am

re: #702 Kenneth

Do you think His Highness would enjoy "I Dream of Jeanie, The Collectors Edition"?

Didn't Jeanie pre-date Islam?

715 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:09am

re: #703 reine.de.tout

Ok, I'll take your word for that. Not sure what it's supposed to mean.

716 gymmom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:16am

re: #678 KansasMom

Jehovas Witness. Not sure what Michael's religion is...he may not even be human anymore.

My 12 year old was surprised to find out he isn't a woman!

717 KenJen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:34am

re: #680 Kenneth



Thank you Kenneth. I was working on that. I'm too slow.

718 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:53am

re: #681 Alouette

Obama has thrown Detroit under the bus and told them they will stay there for a long, long time. He said some bullshit about all the unemployed auto industry workers being "trained for new green jobs" but nobody has a freaking clue what a "green job" is.

I don't know if it was during the campaign or early after inauguration, but apparently this would come at an equal loss for "dirty jobs."

719 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:54am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

It's more likely this (from wiki):

Significance
Tutankhamun was nine years old when he became pharaoh and reigned for approximately ten years. In historical terms, Tutankhamun's significance stems from his rejection of the radical religious innovations introduced by his predecessor Akhenaten[4] and that his tomb in the Valley of the Kings was discovered by Carter almost completely intact — the most complete Ancient Egyptian tomb ever found. As Tutankhamun began his reign at such an early age, his vizier and eventual successor Ay was probably making most of the important political decisions during Tutankhamun's reign.

Tutankhamun was one of the few kings worshiped as a god and honored with a cult in his own lifetime.[5]

720 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:54am

re: #716 gymmom

My 12 year old was surprised to find out he isn't a woman!


My daughter used to think he was a Mexican woman.

721 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:59am

re: #706 Kenneth

Once upon a time, he wrote some good pop tunes. Then he turned into an asshat. It happens.

Was he an asshole before and Islam brought his inner-asshole or, did it turn him into one.

722 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:37:06am

re: #718 laZardo

I don't know if it was during the campaign or early after inauguration, but apparently this would come at an equal loss for "dirty jobs."

All the "dirty jobs" are going to ACORN and other patronage tools.

723 SecondComing  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:37:13am

re: #644 redstateredneck

More like repelled.

Yes, that's one of the words along with "disgusted" that ran through my mind when trying to decide on the word to use. Before finally settling on something less um... potentially offensive?.

P.S. I hear his special going to be reran on TNT.

724 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:37:18am

OT
FREINDS ,,,

I'm taking "target" suggestions

Seems as if two days ago I pissed offf 'JustDanny". Yesterday it was "unrealizedviepoint". In both cases they were being, shall we say, out there (imho, as well as others on those particular threads, including Charles in the case of the latter)

So ,,, todays target shall be ,,,?

725 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:37:19am

re: #685 MandyManners

Really. (btw, I found the CBC article -- the cops don't have to prove anything or make any arrests -- it's all just based on anonymous "reports" from neighbors -- then the people who've been "reported" (even if they OWN the house) can get an eviction order from a judge -- and the house is boarded up. And the "comments" from CBC readers? Well, of course, they figure this is a "great law!" Yeah, it's just fabulous! (this is what happens when citizens don't have a clue or any understanding whatsoever of even the most basic concepts such as "due process." Their "rights" are non-existent. )

726 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:37:36am

re: #701 realwest

Well I thought that first part about not being an American was right too (see my #687) but are you sure about the cat thingy?!

Catula says "He's not one of us!" ;)

727 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:37:51am

re: #712 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So it's not ukamen knowledge?

For that pun, you should be ishtarred and feathered.

728 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:38:06am

re: #698 MandyManners

The reference to King Tut is stupid. Muslims, including Egyptians, do not hold the ancient pharaohs in high regard. To a Muslim, a "Pharaoh" is a corrupt, apostate dictator, like oh say... Mubarak.

This is Epic Diplomatic Fail to think calling Obama King Tut will ingratiate him to Egyptians.

729 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:38:20am

re: #719 reine.de.tout

Tutankhamun was one of the few kings worshiped as a god and honored with a cult in his own lifetime.


Thanks, I didn't know that. I though they were all worshiped as living gods in that era.

730 gymmom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:38:55am

re: #720 redstateredneck

My daughter used to think he was a Mexican woman.

LOL. At least we have examples for what not to do with your body. The little gymnasts used to want a small tattoo. Hollywood excesses have finally shown them how awful they can be.

731 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:38:55am

re: #724 sattv4u2

OT
FREINDS ,,,

I'm taking "target" suggestions

Seems as if two days ago I pissed offf 'JustDanny". Yesterday it was "unrealizedviepoint". In both cases they were being, shall we say, out there (imho, as well as others on those particular threads, including Charles in the case of the latter)

So ,,, todays target shall be ,,,?

I'll offer up myself.

732 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:39:01am

re: #714 MandyManners

Didn't Jeanie pre-date Islam?

According to online sources, yes.

I don't remember the actual episode where she gives indication of her age, though.

733 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:39:06am

re: #605 Kenneth

Most Famous American Muslims

Take from the list what you will.

A mixed bag, to put it nicely.

re: #632 realwest

Good morning to you. There's plenty of evidence of major contributions by Muslims to the election of our first Black President, if y'all dig deep enough!
Oh, wait, you said contributions to American History, not current events.
nevermind.
/

Morning, hon. I think you're right, and current events eventually become history.

734 KenJen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:39:28am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

Tut was a child King.

735 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:39:40am

re: #731 reine.de.tout

I'll offer up myself.

nahhh ,, you're too rational with reasoned (albeit passionate) and civil arguments

736 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:39:42am

re: #724 sattv4u2

OT
FREINDS ,,,

I'm taking "target" suggestions

Seems as if two days ago I pissed offf 'JustDanny". Yesterday it was "unrealizedviepoint". In both cases they were being, shall we say, out there (imho, as well as others on those particular threads, including Charles in the case of the latter)

So ,,, todays target shall be ,,,?

I'm always available, at a price!

737 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:39:43am

re: #728 Kenneth

This is Epic Diplomatic Fail to think calling Obama King Tut will ingratiate him to Egyptians.

Erm... it's not the Obama Admin. calling him Tut, it's Drudge.

738 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:08am

re: #635 Kenneth Ya know, the real problem I had with Yusef Salem or whatever the hell he changed his name to, was after calling for the fatwa on Salmon Rushdie to be carried out, I could no longer listen to some of his music - like Peace Train (not for the lyrics but the music)- without feeling nauseous.

739 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:36am

re: #724 sattv4u2

In both cases they were being, shall we say, out there (imho, as well as others on those particular threads, including Charles in the case of the latter)

Are you saying CJ was "out there" on a thread on his own blog?

740 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:42am

re: #732 freetoken

According to online sources, yes.

I don't remember the actual episode where she gives indication of her age, though.

I seem to recall one episode that she said she was only 3,000 years old.

741 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:44am

re: #736 Walter L. Newton

I'm always available, at a price!

Nahhh ,, I don't want to piss you off till I have that package in my actual possesion!

742 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:48am

re: #728 Kenneth

They're doing it wrong, anyways. They should've drawn comparisons to Rameses.

Otherwise known as Ozymandias.

...

/OH FUCK

743 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:51am

re: #729 Killgore Trout

Thanks, I didn't know that. I though they were all worshiped as living gods in that era.

I thought so too.

744 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:58am

re: #721 MandyManners

Was he an asshole before and Islam brought his inner-asshole or, did it turn him into one.

Back in the day he appeared on the Midnight Special with the Wolfman.
This is even before he became Yousef Islam. He said that he didn't like America & would not come back.

745 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:41:17am

re: #721 MandyManners

Cat Stevens was raised as a Greek Orthodox. During his early pop career he was a noted womanizer while jumping from Anglicanism, Buddhism and then Islam. I'd say he has some issues.

746 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:41:18am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

You probably are. It would be interesting to know who made the embroidery in the picture Drudge has up. It's not Drudge's headline, just the picture.

747 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:41:38am

re: #739 freetoken

Are you saying CJ was "out there" on a thread on his own blog?

No ,,, I'm saying that myself, as well as CJ and others thought unrealized was out there

748 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:41:38am

re: #724 sattv4u2

OT
FREINDS ,,,

I'm taking "target" suggestions

Seems as if two days ago I pissed offf 'JustDanny". Yesterday it was "unrealizedviepoint". In both cases they were being, shall we say, out there (imho, as well as others on those particular threads, including Charles in the case of the latter)

So ,,, todays target shall be ,,,?

Oh! Oh! Me! Me!
/ Horshack

749 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:41:58am

re: #740 JohnnyReb

Wikipedia says 2000... but I don't remember. It seemed to me that she was quite old.

750 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:42:01am

re: #738 realwest

Ya know, the real problem I had with Yusef Salem or whatever the hell he changed his name to, was after calling for the fatwa on Salmon Rushdie to be carried out, I could no longer listen to some of his music - like Peace Train (not for the lyrics but the music)- without feeling nauseous.

real ... I hear ya ... I don't want to know anything else about musicians and actors ... I know it is probably wrong to judge people for what they say and do and not separate the music/movies ... but I am getting bad about it ... and I turn off any Cat Stevens songs on the radio ... and they were very much a part of my youth ...

751 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:42:23am

re: #745 Kenneth

Cat Stevens was raised as a Greek Orthodox. During his early pop career he was a noted womanizer while jumping from Anglicanism, Buddhism and then Islam. I'd say he has some issues.

one issue being has has only marginal talent...at best

752 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:42:44am

re: #738 realwest

Same here.

753 eon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:42:45am

re: #600 laZardo

At this time I would like to announce that I AM SHITSCARED FOR THE FATE OF THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY.

I'm also quite pissed after you know who decided to stop stuffing his face for a moment to say something about the future of GM.

/auto enthusiast at heart ;_;

Ok, to put it simply... Mikey is an idiot. And there aren't enough letters available per post to explain how scientifically fallacious his "reasoning" is. But I can hit a few of the high (or low) points, if you'll bear with me;

Cars that are "small, economical, safe, and don't fall apart after two years?" Try again, Mikey. This is a "choose any two" situation. Materiel science will need another century or so to come up with alloys, etc., that will give us a car the size of a Neon that is as crashworthy as a Hummer. Physics. Is. A. B***h. By the time we can accomplish that, we'll all have Starfleet shuttlecraft in our garages.

"Bullet trains criss-crossing America"? Mikey; look at a map of Japan. Now look at a map of the U.S. Notice the difference in size, distribution of industry, and population density. Then explain how a system optimized for a country demographically and dimensionally similar to the UK can work in one more closely equivalent to all the rest of Europe plus Russia, combined. Geography. Trumps. Theory. Every. F'n. Time. Dumba$$.

"Have rural residents ride buses"? Great. What does the farm product "ride" in? How do you get the produce to market? For that matter, without motor equipment, how in the ever-loving H**L do you farm, period? Commercial, productive farming was a product of the Industrial Revolution. All the pious "organic" farming cant doesn't change the fact that if you try to feed a world population of 6.5 billion+ by pre-20th century methods (or even 300 million or so Americans the same way), you end up with about 90% casualties due to starvation. (Case in point; Sub-Saharan Africa for the last half-century.) And don't start in about "draft animals", either, Mike; I've dealt with same up-close-and-personal (horses). They can't do the job of machinery. Period. Dot. If they could, motor-driven machinery would never have been developed- there would have been no need of same. (Besides, PETA wouldn't like it.)

"Have GM producing millions of solar panels"? If you want electric everything, Mikey (especially Shinkansen), you're stuck with either coal, oil, hydro, or nuclear. Ohm's Law and the Second Law of Thermodynamics decree this, and Congress can't repeal either one. (No appeal has worked in the last six and a half billion years, either.)

I'd love to see Moore have a post in The One's administration, and try to put his "theories" into practice. IMHO, those two were made for each other.

/Due to mutual idiocy.

/rant mode off.

Oh, PS Lazardo; here in politically-incorrect South Central OH this weekend, the Lancaster (OH) Old Car Club is having their annual show, competition, flea market, etc., at the Fairfield County Fairgrounds, Saturday and Sunday. This year, the "theme" (as much as they ever have one, other than classic cars in general) is "American Motors Corporation". I find it interesting that they are spotlighting a defunct company as two of the companies that put it out of business are going Tango Uniform. Admission is free, both days. I'm going (as I haven't missed on in twenty years plus).

cheers

eon

754 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:42:46am

re: #742 laZardo

They're doing it wrong, anyways. They should've drawn comparisons to Rameses.

Otherwise known as Ozymandias.

...

/OH FUCK

"Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"

Yep, that's exactly how I feel.

755 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:42:50am

re: #748 jcm

Oh! Oh! Me! Me!
/ Horshack

Sit down, Arnold!
//

756 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:43:01am

re: #737 Occasional Reader

Erm... it's not the Obama Admin. calling him Tut, it's Drudge.

Actually, it's not even Drudge. It is whoever made the embroidery in the picture.

757 Irish Rose  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:43:07am

re: #675 realwest

Good morning Irish Rose. More important question is how are YOU doing today? Things starting to work out with your youngest son, I hope?

Much better and I appreciate your asking.

758 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:43:48am

You could have knocked me over with a two-pound bag of M&Ms.

Wal-Mart's Weight Effect

The University of North Carolina-Greensboro's Charles Courtemanche and I are finishing a study of big retail stores and obesity. In our first round of statistical analysis we found that greater consumer access to a Wal-Mart ( WMT - news - people ) store was associated with lower body-mass indexes and a lower probability of being obese.

759 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:44:10am

re: #742 laZardo

OBAMANDIAS

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Obamandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

760 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:45:45am

re: #755 sattv4u2

Sit down, Arnold!
//

Now you've done, gone and pissed me off!

/ ;-P

761 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:46:13am

re: #753 eon

I think somewhere, Mikey Moore just inexplicably got a nosebleed.

Nicely done.

762 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:46:25am

re: #758 razorbacker

You could have knocked me over with a two-pound bag of M&Ms.

Wal-Mart's Weight Effect

Walking around one of those behemoths buying crap will thin ya!

763 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:46:31am

re: #751 albusteve

He had a talent for writing a slick catchy tune, but it was always fluffy saccharine stuff. He could also play several instruments very well. But he lacked force and character. There was always something phony about his music.

764 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:46:43am

re: #756 Honorary Yooper

Actually, it's not even Drudge. It is whoever made the embroidery in the picture.

Ultra-right wing grannies!

765 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:47:26am

re: #737 Occasional Reader

I know. But I expect the rest of the media to pick up on it.

766 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:47:27am

re: #725 J.S.

Really. (btw, I found the CBC article -- the cops don't have to prove anything or make any arrests -- it's all just based on anonymous "reports" from neighbors -- then the people who've been "reported" (even if they OWN the house) can get an eviction order from a judge -- and the house is boarded up. And the "comments" from CBC readers? Well, of course, they figure this is a "great law!" Yeah, it's just fabulous! (this is what happens when citizens don't have a clue or any understanding whatsoever of even the most basic concepts such as "due process." Their "rights" are non-existent. )

That's theft.

767 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:47:50am

re: #760 jcm

Now you've done, gone and pissed me off!

/ ;-P

Well ,, that doesn't reach the level of JustDanny! He told me "don't "F" with me,, I have skills"!

I'm still wondering what that meant!

768 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:47:54am

Evicting people based on anonymous complaints -- a Canadian states:
"It is a great law. If one wants to stay in one's house then one should not participate in illegal activity to the extent that it adversely effects one's neighbourhood." Note however, that there is no need of "proof" of any "illegal activity" -- no arrests by the police are needed, just complaints to the cops.

CBC last night also featured a report with respect to the police using tasers. The tasers were tested by the CBC and a large number of the tasers were found to be defective -- the tasers are not properly calibrated. (this relates to an inquiry about the multiple use of a taser on a Polish man at an airport -- he couldn't speak English -- he died as a result of his "encounter" with police -- he died on the scene after being tasered multiple times. His offense? He couldn't speak da English.).

769 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:48:20am

re: #728 Kenneth

The reference to King Tut is stupid. Muslims, including Egyptians, do not hold the ancient pharaohs in high regard. To a Muslim, a "Pharaoh" is a corrupt, apostate dictator, like oh say... Mubarak.

This is Epic Diplomatic Fail to think calling Obama King Tut will ingratiate him to Egyptians.

Isn't Drudge the one calling him that?

770 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:48:26am

re: #765 Kenneth

I know. But I expect the rest of the media to pick up on it.

Anyway, the correct Egypt metaphor for Obama is Apophis. Who is a false god.

Okay... so it's the correct Stargate metaphor. Whatever.

771 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:48:28am

re: #753 eon

AMC, eh? I'd go but I'm not worthy.

/also, agree with everything 'cept the first point, checking to see if Hyundai/Kia will be an exception

772 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:48:39am

re: #678 KansasMom

Jehovas Witness. Not sure what Michael's religion is...he may not even be human anymore.

There, FTFY!

773 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:49:12am

re: #759 Kenneth

re: #754 doppelganglander

I was thinking of another reference 35 minutes ago, but I forgot. :c

774 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:49:17am

re: #758 razorbacker

You could have knocked me over with a two-pound bag of M&Ms.

Wal-Mart's Weight Effect

That ain't workin' at my Wal-Mart. Whole lotta fat people in there!

775 DaddyG  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:49:20am

re: #595 razorbacker

...How many threads here concern the soldier murder as opposed to the abortion doctor murder?

I think that is a reflection of how much discussion/controversy a topic is likely to generate. In that respect blogs are not much different than traditional news reporting. There is always in incentive to publish controversy.

Once we have a thread about the foreign trained domestic jihadist murdering a soldier there isn't much debate amongst the lizards. 500 posts of roundly condemning the act just about sums it up.

776 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:49:20am

re: #766 MandyManners

Indeed...one has to wonder -- property law here? The municipality acquires somebody's property, eh? as the result of what? "complaints"? Yeah, nifty system here.

777 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:49:20am

re: #732 freetoken

According to online sources, yes.

I don't remember the actual episode where she gives indication of her age, though.

I thought it was over 1,000 years.

778 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:49:38am

re: #727 Occasional Reader

For that pun, you should be ishtarred and feathered.

Give me your Bast shot.

779 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:49:49am

re: #753 eon

All the pious "organic" farming cant doesn't change the fact that if you try to feed a world population of 6.5 billion+ by pre-20th century methods (or even 300 million or so Americans the same way), you end up with about 90% casualties due to starvation.

If we keep hitting that "food shortage" point, that's BOUND to get Mikey Moore's attention...

780 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:50:06am

re: #769 MandyManners

Isn't Drudge the one calling him that?

No. It is whoever made the object in the picture, not Drudge. Drudge has a way of finding really odd pictures like that though.

781 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:50:07am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?


Given that it's Drudge, I'd have to say yes you are.

782 Athens Runaway  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:50:10am

re: #767 sattv4u2

Well ,, that doesn't reach the level of JustDanny! He told me "don't "F" with me,, I have skills"!

I'm still wondering what that meant!

Nunchuk skills, computer hacking skills...

783 Irish Rose  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:50:50am

Wow, people are just going on and on about Tiller aren't they?

A very, very disturbing picture of the radical right is emerging... so much ugly, you wonder how these people actually have the audacity to call themselves Christians?

784 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:50:51am

re: #780 Honorary Yooper

I assume that was made by the Saudis.

785 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:50:53am

re: #744 opnion

Back in the day he appeared on the Midnight Special with the Wolfman.
This is even before he became Yousef Islam. He said that he didn't like America & would not come back.

I had no idea.

786 SecondComing  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:50:56am

re: #746 Honorary Yooper

You probably are. It would be interesting to know who made the embroidery in the picture Drudge has up. It's not Drudge's headline, just the picture.

I'm curious as well.

787 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:51:00am

re: #782 Athens Runaway

Nunchuk skills, computer hacking skills...

getting outta moms basement skills! ,,naahhh!

788 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:51:10am

re: #774 redstateredneck

That ain't workin' at my Wal-Mart. Whole lotta fat people in there!

Seriously. Folks at my Wal-Mart should beep when they back up.

/Target shopper

789 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:51:18am

re: #745 Kenneth

Cat Stevens was raised as a Greek Orthodox. During his early pop career he was a noted womanizer while jumping from Anglicanism, Buddhism and then Islam. I'd say he has some issues.

I'll say!

790 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:51:37am

re: #753 eon

Moore thinks rural people should ride buses? Idiot.
Buses are only more efficient than cars when they have many people on board and it takes population density for that. Otherwise, maybe there'd be a weekly bus, which wouldn't be enough.
A big SUV gets better mileage with four people than a bus with four people. And it is easier to carry the stuff they need for life in a rural area.

791 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:51:45am

re: #782 Athens Runaway

Nunchuk skills, computer hacking skills...

Girls like guys with skills, don't they?

792 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:52:08am

re: #782 Athens Runaway

Nunchuk skills, computer hacking skills...

Bowhunting skills...

[pass the tater tots]

793 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:52:12am

re: #767 sattv4u2

Well ,, that doesn't reach the level of JustDanny! He told me "don't "F" with me,, I have skills"!

I'm still wondering what that meant!

794 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:52:21am

re: #768 J.S.

Evicting people based on anonymous complaints -- a Canadian states:
(this relates to an inquiry about the multiple use of a taser on a Polish man at an airport -- he couldn't speak English -- he died as a result of his "encounter" with police -- he died on the scene after being tasered multiple times. His offense? He couldn't speak da English.).

That is a gross misrepresentation of the event. The man had schizophrenia and had been wondering around the airport for several hours after arriving from Poland. For some reason never explained, his family in Canada didn't bother going to the airport to meet him when he got off the plane. Eventually, the man became disoriented and unstable. He was angry and was shouting at people, kicking furniture. When the police showed up, the man picked up a chair and was about to throw it before he was tasered.

795 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:52:50am

re: #783 Irish Rose

Wow, people are just going on and on about Tiller aren't they?

A very, very disturbing picture of the radical right is emerging... so much ugly, you wonder how these people actually have the audacity to call themselves Christians?

They can call themselves whatever they want to, don't make it true though.

796 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:53:10am

re: #788 doppelganglander

Seriously. Folks at my Wal-Mart should beep when they back up.

/Target shopper

Heh. Since I've lost 35 pounds, I can laugh at that. :D

I love Target. I do most of my shopping online, but Target is my go-to store.

797 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:53:12am

re: #780 Honorary Yooper

No. It is whoever made the object in the picture, not Drudge. Drudge has a way of finding really odd pictures like that though.

But it's Drudge (or one of his editors) that assigns the headlines on his site. Yes, the stories accompanying the headline is someone elses, but like in the newspapers, the writer submits the story, the photog submits the picture, the EDITOR decides the headline

798 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:53:20am

re: #779 Occasional Reader

If we keep hitting that "food shortage" point, that's BOUND to get Mikey Moore's attention...

One must wonder what Michael Moore's own "carbon footprint" is. I'll wager a lot that it is way bigger than my own.

799 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:53:24am

re: #693 laZardo
NOT Necessarily - somebody has produced an all electric car that actually looks sexy and gets pretty good performance and will carry THREE adults. Course it goes 0-60 in about a minute and a half, but hey - it IS green and it ain't UGLY! The Tesla or something like that?

800 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:53:32am

re: #794 Kenneth

Oh please. So at an international airport they can't find a translator after how many hours?

801 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:53:36am

re: #777 MandyManners

I thought it was over 1,000 years.

The wiki article mentions two dates: 2000 years, and also that she was from Babylon (and also from Baghdad.)

802 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:54:03am

re: #790 Kosh's Shadow

Moore thinks rural people should ride buses? Idiot.
Buses are only more efficient than cars when they have many people on board and it takes population density for that. Otherwise, maybe there'd be a weekly bus, which wouldn't be enough.
A big SUV gets better mileage with four people than a bus with four people. And it is easier to carry the stuff they need for life in a rural area.

Mr. Moore suffers from a dis-order exclusive to a small handful of Carousel survivors.

803 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:54:09am

re: #794 Kenneth

I remember back during the Sarah Palin Taser affair...someone outright said "Tasers don't kill people."

/palm impact on face registered on the richter scale.

804 Athens Runaway  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:54:22am

Anyone see that Playboy Online article about the "top 10 conservative women we'd want to hate-f**k?" It was live for all of 2 hours and Politico linked to it as "the lighter side of politics," but it got pulled in short order. I reconstructed a copy of it, god bless Google Cache for plugging the memory hole.

Pam Gellar got picked as #8 or so. Michelle Malkin was the #1 Conservative Woman We Want to Hate-F**k.

805 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:54:33am

re: #801 freetoken

The wiki article mentions two dates: 2000 years, and also that she was from Babylon (and also from Baghdad.)


Well if she was actually from Babylon she is way older than 2,000 years.

806 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:54:45am

re: #793 jcm



Thank God he won't breed now!

807 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:55:09am

re: #797 sattv4u2

But it's Drudge (or one of his editors) that assigns the headlines on his site. Yes, the stories accompanying the headline is someone elses, but like in the newspapers, the writer submits the story, the photog submits the picture, the EDITOR decides the headline

Yes, but the current headline under the "Obama = Tut" picture is "THE EMERGENCE OF OBAMA'S MUSLIM ROOTS". Seemingly nothing to do with the photograph.

808 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:55:15am

Osama bin Dead been yak'in Obama

[...]
Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, in a taped message aired by Al Jazeera television soon after Obama arrived in Saudi Arabia, said the U.S. president had planted seeds for "revenge and hatred" toward the United States in the Muslim world.

Tuesday, his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, called Obama a criminal and warned Muslims not to fall for his polished words.

Their statements marked a concerted al Qaeda propaganda drive to pre-empt Obama's speech to the Muslim world.

Get ready for that double-dip recession if the powder-keg don't blow first:

Monday, the Saudi cabinet reiterated it saw "the fair price" at $75-$80 a barrel -- 17 percent above current levels.

"The king said $75 would be okay for the simple reason that everyone in OPEC wants $100 or more," said a Saudi government adviser, who asked not to be named.

"It's just to make the point that Saudi Arabia will be able to neutralize Iranian and Venezuelan influence in OPEC," he said, referring to leading price hawks in the cartel.

uh-huh...

809 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:55:45am

re: #799 realwest

NOT Necessarily - somebody has produced an all electric car that actually looks sexy and gets pretty good performance and will carry THREE adults. Course it goes 0-60 in about a minute and a half, but hey - it IS green and it ain't UGLY! The Tesla or something like that?

Yeah, but do you have the $102,000 to pay for it?

810 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:55:48am

re: #688 Killgore Trout

The picture on Drudge says "Obama: The New Tutukamen of the world".

Pretty tasteless. King Tut was a boy who ruled for only a few years before being assassinated. Am I reading too much into that?

Killgore ... Tapper on the King Tut thing ...

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

811 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:56:07am

re: #799 realwest

NOT Necessarily - somebody has produced an all electric car that actually looks sexy and gets pretty good performance and will carry THREE adults. Course it goes 0-60 in about a minute and a half, but hey - it IS green and it ain't UGLY! The Tesla or something like that?

Tesla Roadster, yes. But it's $100K or something like that...

/hopefully, with time...

812 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:56:20am

re: #759 Kenneth

OBAMANDIAS

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Obamandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.


That poem always reminds me of this song.

Nothing like a little Jefferson Starship to get the morning rolling.

813 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:56:31am

re: #804 Athens Runaway

Pam Gellar got picked as #8 or so. Michelle Malkin was the #1 Conservative Woman We Want to Hate-F**k.

OK, that's ought to piss off Crazy Pam today.

814 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:56:55am

re: #799 realwest

NOT Necessarily - somebody has produced an all electric car that actually looks sexy and gets pretty good performance and will carry THREE adults. Course it goes 0-60 in about a minute and a half, but hey - it IS green and it ain't UGLY! The Tesla or something like that?

Tesla Motors has a nice roadster and a 7 passenger sedan with 360 mile range for about 50k. Both look good to.

815 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:56:58am

re: #794 Kenneth

The man had schizophrenia and had been wondering around the airport for several hours after arriving from Poland.

Reminds me of a story from last week's "Car Talk" show on NPR. Apparently the police in Ireland had sent out a bulletin for a guy with a Polish name, who was by far the worst driving violations offender in the country. Just an incredible array of moving offenses, ticketed multiple times, all over the country.

Just one problem; it turns out, the two-word name in the bulletin is actually Polish for "driver's license". (Irish highway cops were pulling over Polish tourists and immigrant workers for infractions, and dutifully copying down "[driver's license]" as the name under which the ticket was issued.)

816 badger1970  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:57:06am

re: #804 Athens Runaway

I thought we cleared that phrase up yesterday.

817 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:57:20am

re: #807 Honorary Yooper

Yes, but the current headline under the "Obama = Tut" picture is "THE EMERGENCE OF OBAMA'S MUSLIM ROOTS". Seemingly nothing to do with the photograph.

I'm too lazy to read the whole dang thread. So - King Tut was a Muslim? Well, I'll be dad gummed. /

818 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:57:47am

re: #810 JacksonTn

Killgore ... Tapper on the King Tut thing ...

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

How much longer before ABC finds a new White House correspondent?

819 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:57:52am

re: #800 J.S.

There were failures of course. But the man spoke no English, was lost and disoriented and he had a seriously debilitating mental illness. Somebody with schizophrenia is unlikely to approach strangers and patiently ask for help on their own. Why did his family fail to provide the assistance they knew he needed? That was gross negligence on their part, if you ask me.

820 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:58:05am

UNCLE.

821 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:58:15am

re: #796 Cattt

Heh. Since I've lost 35 pounds, I can laugh at that. :D

I love Target. I do most of my shopping online, but Target is my go-to store.

35 pounds, that's fantastic! I'm down about 50 lbs. from my peak 10 years ago. Don't you just feel like a new person?

822 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:58:16am

re: #733 doppelganglander

Morning, hon. I think you're right, and current events eventually become history.

I sure hope they become history really FAST! Say by 2012 at the latest?!

823 DaddyG  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:58:23am

re: #774 redstateredneck
No surprise that Wal-mart shoppers are more svelte. Do you know how far you have to walk to get the the freaking milk display at the back of the superstore!? /

824 ROPMA  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:58:32am
825 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:58:33am

re: #798 Honorary Yooper

One must wonder what Michael Moore's own "carbon footprint" is. I'll wager a lot that it is way bigger than my own.

I almost never use infernal combustion engines. I'll bet Mr. Moore does. Nya nya nya.

826 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:58:41am

re: #819 Kenneth

There were failures of course. But the man spoke no English, was lost and disoriented and he had a seriously debilitating mental illness. Somebody with schizophrenia is unlikely to approach strangers and patiently ask for help on their own. Why did his family fail to provide the assistance they knew he needed? That was gross negligence on their part, if you ask me.

Possibly because they didn't want him to find them in the first place?

827 Athens Runaway  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:59:32am

re: #816 badger1970

I thought we cleared that phrase up yesterday.

Eh?

828 DaddyG  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:59:41am

re: #817 Cattt

I'm too lazy to read the whole dang thread. So - King Tut was a Muslim? Well, I'll be dad gummed. /


I was leaning on the "young, inexperienced and doomed to fail" angle for Tut v. Obama /

829 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:59:58am

re: #810 JacksonTn

Thanks for that. ...

maybe the T-shirt vendor was just using the name of the most famous Pharaoh to sell some shirts.


Bingo.

830 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:01:07am

re: #823 DaddyG

No surprise that Wal-mart shoppers are more svelte. Do you know how far you have to walk to get the the freaking milk display at the back of the superstore!? /

If I get up to the checkout and find I've forgotten something, I generally just say, f*ck it. I'll stop at the convenience store on the way home and pay twice as much for it.
However, I do know for a fact that there are families (usually who live outside of town in a rural area) who spend the entire day at Wal-Mart. It's become a form of entertainment.

831 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:01:35am

re: #826 Walter L. Newton

I don't know. I have great sympathy for the poor man. His family failed him. They should have known he needed help.

832 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:01:39am

re: #819 Kenneth

There were failures of course. But the man spoke no English, was lost and disoriented and he had a seriously debilitating mental illness. Somebody with schizophrenia is unlikely to approach strangers and patiently ask for help on their own. Why did his family fail to provide the assistance they knew he needed? That was gross negligence on their part, if you ask me.

Oh, dear. My X's mother was paranoid-schizophrenic, as is his step-father and half-brother. I cannot imagine turning them lose in an airport even under medication.

833 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:02:11am

re: #824 ROPMA

OT Advice for muslims.

Let the seething begin!

834 KansasMom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:02:15am

re: #796 Cattt

Heh. Since I've lost 35 pounds, I can laugh at that. :D

I love Target. I do most of my shopping online, but Target is my go-to store.

Congrats! I lost about 30 pounds last year, then hit a wall. Still have a few more to lose before I get to goal.

I feel like a supermodel whenever I shop at WalMart though!

835 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:02:20am

re: #794 Kenneth

Btw, where do have the evidence that Dziekanski was "schizophrenic?" From the autopsy reports, he was a recovered alcoholic. From CTV news, "Butt acknowledged the controversy surrounding the term, and also noted that in most cases where it is used, subjects are on drugs or suffering from mental illness such as paranoid schizophrenia.

Neither was the case with Dziekanski." [emphasis added, js]

836 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:02:24am

re: #785 MandyManners

I had no idea.

Yeah, he was always a jerk.

837 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:02:31am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are things?

They're hotting up, day by day, here in the UK.
One day before the elections (some local, and for the EU Parliament), yet another minister has resigned from the Gord Cabinet.
Three jumped the ship yesterday - following the 'nice' NuLab rule to use a day with horrible news to slip in something like a mere resignation, hoping it would not be taken up by the MFM.

Happy times!

838 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:03:44am

re: #837 yma o hyd

One day before the elections (some local, and for the EU Parliament), yet another minister has resigned from the Gord Cabinet.

Yet another "taxpayer money used to clean his castle's moat" case?

839 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:04:01am

re: #664 momcat

Did the one give them anything?

A nice bottle of Mogen David.

840 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:04:03am

re: #836 opnion

Yeah, he was always a jerk.

I wonder if he has any degree of narcissism.

841 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:04:12am

re: #812 MandyManners

We built this thread on rock 'n roll.

842 UFO TOFU  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:04:13am

re: #830 redstateredneck

Kind of like Bass Pro Shop?

843 badger1970  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:04:26am

re: #827 Athens Runaway
I believe it was called a grudge f**k. instead of a HF. HF implied unwanted forced sex.

844 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:04:38am

re: #835 J.S.

From CTV news, "Butt acknowledged the controversy surrounding the term

[snicker]

845 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:04:42am

re: #837 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are things?

They're hotting up, day by day, here in the UK.
One day before the elections (some local, and for the EU Parliament), yet another minister has resigned from the Gord Cabinet.
Three jumped the ship yesterday - following the 'nice' NuLab rule to use a day with horrible news to slip in something like a mere resignation, hoping it would not be taken up by the MFM.

Happy times!

More fall-out from the expense scandal?

846 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:05:03am

re: #839 SixDegrees

A nice bottle of Mogen David.

ROFLMAO!

847 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:05:05am

re: #821 doppelganglander

35 pounds, that's fantastic! I'm down about 50 lbs. from my peak 10 years ago. Don't you just feel like a new person?

Yes! After surgery 10 years ago, I gained 45 pounds (my doctor told me I would - side effect of the surgery). Several months ago, I developed sciatica in my right leg. OUCH does not begin to describe the pain - it was 24/7 excruciating. So - I cut out sugar. That had an effect on my whole diet - cutting the empty calories. Leg still hurts, but it is manageable now, and Aleve helps a lot.

I have bought a new wardrobe. I wore a dress to work the last time I was in the office - and three inch wedge shoes - blue. My boss said "you look nice," which is like someone else buying me diamonds. He told me last week that his boss thought I had looked nice too. AND, his boss's boss, who is an old friend of mine, told me I looked nice.

Wait until they see me in my new blazer with gold buttons. :D

848 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:05:09am

re: #753 eon
NOw that has to make the top ten comments list, but frankly, if y'all had led with

"Have rural residents ride buses"? Great. What does the farm product "ride" in? How do you get the produce to market? For that matter, without motor equipment, how in the ever-loving H**L do you farm, period?


That woulda been enough. I mean, telling Mikey that he might not be able to suck up all the food that he does ought to change his opinions some, doncha think?

849 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:05:23am

re: #837 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are things?

They're hotting up, day by day, here in the UK.
One day before the elections (some local, and for the EU Parliament), yet another minister has resigned from the Gord Cabinet.
Three jumped the ship yesterday - following the 'nice' NuLab rule to use a day with horrible news to slip in something like a mere resignation, hoping it would not be taken up by the MFM.

Happy times!

That is until the LibDems and BNP start moving in for the kill.

/do they trust the Tories?

850 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:05:44am

re: #841 laZardo

We built this thread on rock 'n roll.

Youtube Video

Good tune.

851 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:05:50am

re: #843 badger1970

HF implied unwanted forced sex.

As discussed at some length yesterday... that has never been my understanding of the term. Rather, it refers to sex with someone you dislike personally, but are physically attracted to.

852 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:06:39am

re: #850 MandyManners

Why should we stop there?

853 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:06:46am

re: #834 KansasMom

Congrats! I lost about 30 pounds last year, then hit a wall. Still have a few more to lose before I get to goal.

I feel like a supermodel whenever I shop at WalMart though!

I'd like to drop another 15 and be back to where I was before. Walking the cat should help - I bought the Siamese a harness and leash. He LOVES walkies.

854 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:06:47am

re: #838 Occasional Reader

Yet another "taxpayer money used to clean his castle's moat" case?

Indeed!
She 'flipped' - that is she changed her second home address (which should be a London home) to her first, so she could get her mortgage payed by us ... and then sold it without paying tax.
Did it twice, as came out last night ...

The other 'resignees' also had their hands in the till.

855 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:06:50am

re: #825 Cattt

I almost never use infernal combustion engines. I'll bet Mr. Moore does. Nya nya nya.

"Damn infernal engines!"

856 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:06:55am

re: #757 Irish Rose
Very glad to hear that. Hey, how's the Marine doing? Still sunning sitting in Calfornia or has he managed to get a "ride" somewhere?!

857 mj  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:07:03am

As Obama Begins Trip, Arabs Want Israeli Gesture

...The president and the king exchanged a light embrace and kiss, but Mr. Obama did not bow before the king as he did at their first meeting in London earlier this year, a gesture that drew criticism...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Hey, I thought he didn't bow?!
Isn't that what Robert Gibbs said?

858 Athens Runaway  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:07:04am

re: #843 badger1970

I believe it was called a grudge f**k. instead of a HF. HF implied unwanted forced sex.

No. I have a saved copy of the article. It is most definitely "HF." I spent an hour surfing Google Cache and tweaking HTML to get all the entries in one printable page.

859 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:07:04am

re: #850 MandyManners

Good tune.

I beg to differ.

860 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:07:12am

re: #830 redstateredneck

If I get up to the checkout and find I've forgotten something, I generally just say, f*ck it. I'll stop at the convenience store on the way home and pay twice as much for it.
However, I do know for a fact that there are families (usually who live outside of town in a rural area) who spend the entire day at Wal-Mart. It's become a form of entertainment.

Plop the kiddies at the electronic dept. (X-BOX, PlayStation, Nintendo systems active on display). Mom goes to the nail salon. Dad gets an oil change and rotation. They meet that the instore McDonalds (or in the case of the one nearest me, SubWay) for lunch. Then the family gets thier hair cut, does their banking and has their eyes examed!

Kids back to electronics while mom and dad get their taxes done by Jackson Hewitt. All meet in the food section for family time/ grocery shopping. Check out and on the way home $250 later

no WONDER Wal Mart keeps posting profits even in these hard times

Sam was SMART!

861 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:07:20am

re: #851 Occasional Reader

Rather, it refers to sex with someone you dislike personally, but are physically attracted to.

It's a concept women might have a hard time understanding.

862 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:07:39am

Woohoo! 85 degrees with 65 per cent humidity.

863 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:07:50am

re: #854 yma o hyd

She 'flipped' - that is she changed her second home address (which should be a London home) to her first, so she could get her mortgage payed by us ... and then sold it without paying tax.

She apparently thought she was a member of Obama's cabinet.

864 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:08:16am

re: #845 MandyManners

More fall-out from the expense scandal?

Abso-effen-lutely!

There's more to come - and Labour people are now trying to get rid of Gord.

We don't care - we want a General Election!

865 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:08:24am

re: #854 yma o hyd

Indeed!
She 'flipped' - that is she changed her second home address (which should be a London home) to her first, so she could get her mortgage payed by us ... and then sold it without paying tax.
Did it twice, as came out last night ...

The other 'resignees' also had their hands in the till.

Any chance of criminal prosecution?

866 eon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:08:25am

re: #801 freetoken

The wiki article mentions two dates: 2000 years, and also that she was from Babylon (and also from Baghdad.)

Babylon was founded about 2500 B.C., and was the center of its own empire from then until 531 B.C. when it was conquered by the Persians. Based on Jeannie's couture, I'd put her origins in the late Babylonian/early Persian period. She did once state that she was an "ordinary girl" until somebody in her family got crosswise of a very powerful djinn, who made her a djinnah by way of settling accounts. The Great Hajii, greatest and most powerful of all djinn, apparently took a liking to her (gee, I wonder why?) and made her part of his court. That is, until her bottle ended up on that island in the Pacific with her in it.

I'd put her age at about 2500 years, for this reason. Which means she's a darn sight older than Islam. But after all, you never ask a lady her age.

/I only ever watched two sitcoms as a kid- I Dream of Jeannie and Bewitched.

cheers

eon

867 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:08:27am

re: #851 Occasional Reader

As discussed at some length yesterday... that has never been my understanding of the term. Rather, it refers to sex with someone you dislike personally, but are physically attracted to.

Gotta admit, those were some of the best. For both parties.

868 acwgusa  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:08:37am

re: #857 mj

As Obama Begins Trip, Arabs Want Israeli Gesture

...The president and the king exchanged a light embrace and kiss, but Mr. Obama did not bow before the king as he did at their first meeting in London earlier this year, a gesture that drew criticism...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Hey, I thought he didn't bow?!
Isn't that what Robert Gibbs said?

I can think of a few gestures that the Israeli's can give the Arabs...

But I don't want to get banned.

869 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:08:59am

re: #758 razorbacker
Well shoot - y'all ever BEEN to a Walmart? You gotta walk about three, four miles to get from one part of the store to another! On concrete floors (Walmart don't do comfort) no less. Of course you'll have less obesity and body fat!
:)

870 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:09:03am

re: #852 laZardo

Why should we stop there?



We shouldn't.

871 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:09:18am

re: #847 Cattt


I have bought a new wardrobe. I wore a dress to work the last time I was in the office - and three inch wedge shoes - blue. My boss said "you look nice," which is like someone else buying me diamonds. He told me last week that his boss thought I had looked nice too. AND, his boss's boss, who is an old friend of mine, told me I looked nice.

Sounds like sexual harassment to me! Sue them! :)

I lost about 30 lb.s last year through eating right (not a "diet," a lifestyle change) and exercise and I've managed to keep it off. I'm planning to change gyms this summer and start lifting weights (my current gym is mainly for self-defense training). I want to regain some of that weight as muscle.

872 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:09:19am

re: #843 badger1970

I believe it was called a grudge f**k. instead of a HF. HF implied unwanted forced sex.

Here's a parody of the original Playboy article

"The 10 Hottest Liberal Women in Politics"

873 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:09:22am

re: #857 mj

Hey, I thought he didn't bow?!
Isn't that what Robert Gibbs said?

Oh come on, that's from that ultra right-wing rag, the New York Times.

/

874 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:09:41am

re: #860 sattv4u2

It's replaced the old general store.

Which is where the community used to congregate.

875 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:10:01am

re: #840 MandyManners

I wonder if he has any degree of narcissism.

Maybe being followed by a Moon Shadow has made him paranoid.
He really led the life of a Libertine, so Islam is an odd choice.

876 badger1970  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:10:03am

re: #851 Occasional Reader

I grew up in a house where shut up was offensive. To each theor own.

877 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:10:30am

re: #860 sattv4u2

Plop the kiddies at the electronic dept. (X-BOX, PlayStation, Nintendo systems active on display). Mom goes to the nail salon. Dad gets an oil change and rotation. They meet that the instore McDonalds (or in the case of the one nearest me, SubWay) for lunch. Then the family gets thier hair cut, does their banking and has their eyes examed!

Kids back to electronics while mom and dad get their taxes done by Jackson Hewitt. All meet in the food section for family time/ grocery shopping. Check out and on the way home $250 later

no WONDER Wal Mart keeps posting profits even in these hard times

Sam was SMART!

And you wonder why they're gonna take over the world as a unicorporation. q;

879 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:10:45am

So, Obama is on his way to Saudi Arabia and Osama has made another audio tape from the great beyond to commemorate the event. Osama claims that Obama is doing nothing but following in Bush's footsteps, and I'd take that to be yet another da'wa.

It's a challenge to do what the Islamists want, or else face jihad.

In the meantime, the Administration is going to apologize for the mistakes of the Bush administration to soothe bad feelings by Muslims around the world. Why? Where are the apologies for Islamists murdering thousands of Americans and their fellow Muslims by the tens of thousands in the name of jihad? This Administration continues its apologia tour, and the end result is an America that looks weaker to its enemies and gets our allies thinking twice about stepping up to assist going forward. It also raises doubts in the minds of those who might seek our assistance or look for alliances going forward because the Administration is doing more to cozy up to bad regimes than they are keeping good relations with existing friends and allies.

880 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:10:47am

re: #847 Cattt

My boss said "you look nice," which is like someone else buying me diamonds. He told me last week that his boss thought I had looked nice too. AND, his boss's boss, who is an old friend of mine, told me I looked nice.

LAWSUIT! SEXUAL HARRASSMENT! KA-CHING!$$$

881 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:10:59am

re: #835 J.S.

The initial news reports on the incident said that he had schizophrenia. I have just spent some time googling that point and found the new report which denies that, although the denial somewhat vague. What is the truth on that issue?

882 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:11:04am

re: #874 razorbacker

It's replaced the old general store.

Which is where the community used to congregate.

Yup,,, and where Wal Mart started as just a singular place for very rural areas to go get "everything", they are now in every big URBAN area

again ,, Sam was SMART !

883 KansasMom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:11:09am

I know LGF doesn't control which adds appear on the site. But I'm getting tired of seeing that Ayers interview thing on the page.

884 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:11:13am

re: #859 Occasional Reader

I beg to differ.

Are you on your knees?

885 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:11:14am

re: #869 realwest

Well shoot - y'all ever BEEN to a Walmart? You gotta walk about three, four miles to get from one part of the store to another! On concrete floors (Walmart don't do comfort) no less. Of course you'll have less obesity and body fat!
:)

Svelte calves.

886 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:11:30am

re: #868 acwgusa

I can think of a few gestures that the Israeli's can give the Arabs...

But I don't want to get banned.

Well, they've withdrawn from Sinai, southern Lebanon (twice), both times Hizballah moved back), and Gaza.
They are letting Fatah have a lot of rule in their terrortories.
And the Arabs have shown them how much they like those gestures by lobbing rockets and missiles.
But it is always Israel that is supposed to give up more.
I think a gesture with a single finger is appropriate here.

887 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:11:50am

re: #861 Killgore Trout

It's a concept women might have a hard time understanding.

To borrow a phrase from OR, I beg to differ.

888 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:02am

re: #877 laZardo

And you wonder why they're gonna take over the world as a unicorporation. q;

I know why


NO UNION!

889 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:08am

re: #849 laZardo

That is until the LibDems and BNP start moving in for the kill.

/do they trust the Tories?

The BNP has no chance of winning seats in a General Election.
The LibDems may profit - from a slight basis, but might overtake Labour in a General election if Gord tries to hang on.

The Tories are top of the polls, and Dave Cameron has really taken political change as main talking point, as well as the EU.
He's announced that he will ahve a referendum on that horrible 'Constitution', and the law is already being prepared.
He's also said that all Tory MEPs who get elected will form a proper opposition there, and not be udner the blanekt with all the Euro-Federalists.

We'll see how the election to the EU Parliament turns out, tomorrow.

890 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:15am

Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing


CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday that he and Cuban ally Fidel Castro risk being more conservative than U.S. President Barack Obama as Washington prepares to take control of General Motors Corp.

During one of Chavez's customary lectures on the "curse" of capitalism and the bonanzas of socialism, the Venezuelan leader made reference to GM's bankruptcy filing, which is expected to give the U.S. government a 60 percent stake in the 100-year-old former symbol of American might.

"Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right," Chavez joked on a live television broadcast.

Heh.

891 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:16am

re: #767 sattv4u2
Um, respectfully, y'all can't judge someone by what they say out here in one or two posts, and ought to resist the temptation to do so. justdanny has been on LGF forever and some of us still have fond memories of how he battled some pretty fucking awful things in his life and managed to keep going AND being civilized about it.
If I were you, I'd just let it go, you know?

892 calcajun  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:18am

re: #883 KansasMom

I know LGF doesn't control which adds appear on the site. But I'm getting tired of seeing that Ayers interview thing on the page.

That and the Muslim dating service.

893 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:27am

re: #794 Kenneth

That wouldn't happen in Baltimore. We have people here who can speak Polish - or any other language you can name. Also, people who get violent aren't that uncommon, so the police don't pull out the old sparky every time someone picks up a chair. /slightly tongue in cheek - no offense to Canada intended.

894 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:33am

re: #884 MandyManners

Brb, shower.

No time is a good time for goodbyes though, so I'll be back in a bit. 0:

895 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:33am

re: #869 realwest

When I left Wally-World in 1980 they had a 'superstore' in the works. Blasted thing was going to be 100,000 square feet.

That's a small store now.

I was a big dog, working in that huge 75,000 square footer.

896 acwgusa  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:49am

re: #886 Kosh's Shadow

Well, they've withdrawn from Sinai, southern Lebanon (twice), both times Hizballah moved back), and Gaza.
They are letting Fatah have a lot of rule in their terrortories.
And the Arabs have shown them how much they like those gestures by lobbing rockets and missiles.
But it is always Israel that is supposed to give up more.
I think a gesture with a single finger is appropriate here.

Paint it on a "return fire", and I'll be fine with that.

897 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:55am

re: #864 yma o hyd

Abso-effen-lutely!

There's more to come - and Labour people are now trying to get rid of Gord.

We don't care - we want a General Election!

Has BNP ratcheted up their campaign to portray themselves as corruption-free?

898 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:59am

re: #876 badger1970

I grew up in a house where shut up was offensive. To each theor own.

Well, it's not exactly like my mom and dad taught me the term "hate f*ck", either!

899 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:13:11am

re: #842 UFO TOFU

Kind of like Bass Pro Shop?

HAHA, yes! You remember me telling about the guy at work that went to Springfield, MO to Bass Pro Shop for his vacation? Spent three days there and came home.
:D

900 KansasMom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:13:19am

re: #892 calcajun

That and the Muslim dating service.

That one was creepy.

901 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:13:34am

re: #819 Kenneth

There were failures of course. But the man spoke no English, was lost and disoriented and he had a seriously debilitating mental illness. Somebody with schizophrenia is unlikely to approach strangers and patiently ask for help on their own. Why did his family fail to provide the assistance they knew he needed? That was gross negligence on their part, if you ask me.

Base on what you've posted, the officers acted within the "reasonable officer" standard. Tazing that situation was a reasonable response, with a unfortunate outcome.

902 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:14:02am

re: #891 realwest

If I were you, I'd just let it go, you know?

With all due respect to you and your fond memories of him, I won't let go of someone threatening me!

903 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:14:08am

re: #890 NJDhockeyfan

Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing


Heh.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

904 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:14:11am

re: #753 eon

From "On The Table" in this week's The Autoextremist, come's Peter DeLorenzo's rip job on Mikey:


Michael Moore. From the sublime (P.J.) to the ridiculous - Michael Moore. The ubiquitous pain-in-the-ass displayed the full gamut of his hopelessly naive, half-cocked musings in his incredibly sophomoric diatribe that he released yesterday called "Goodbye GM." Whatever residual cred this guy had at one time has now been blown to bits by his gradual descent into a self-generated world made up of half-truths, abject mediocrity and the dulcet tones of the bullshit rattling around in his head. That he manages to keep unloading his "finger-snap" environmentalist crap on the American public - to obviously lesser and lesser effect - is our burden to bear, apparently. That is until the day he huffs and puffs and blows himself up for good. Pathetic.
905 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:14:15am

re: #866 eon

Excellent!

906 Athens Runaway  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:14:29am

The intro to the hatefest

Obama promised us the dream of post-partisanship—a cuckoo land where party affiliation and factional animosity were forgotten. Turn on cable news or open any newspaper, however, and you’ll quickly discover that the dream has yet to materialize. But there is a way to reach across the aisle without letting principles fall by the wayside. We speak, naturally, of the HF [edited by me for appropriateness]. We may despise everything these women represent, but goddammit they’re hot. Let the healing begin.



Elizabeth Hasselback's entry

Who: She’s the clean-cut American sweetheart who elicits our filthiest thoughts. Endlessly perky, this golden goddess probably has her Catholic school uniform still in the closet, and she wouldn’t mind putting it on before taking it off for a session of sweaty, anti-American HFing

How Could You? At her best, The View's token neocon is a bilious simpleton who could turn Gandhi into a bloodthirsty maniac. If waking up next to this woman is anything like watching her on morning TV, it’s best not to sleep over.

The HF [edited by me] Rating: You’re better served [edited] off Regis Philbin.

Yeah, no reason to be upset here. /

907 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:14:43am

re: #866 eon

Babylon was founded about 2500 B.C., and was the center of its own empire from then until 531 B.C. when it was conquered by the Persians. Based on Jeannie's couture, I'd put her origins in the late Babylonian/early Persian period. She did once state that she was an "ordinary girl" until somebody in her family got crosswise of a very powerful djinn, who made her a djinnah by way of settling accounts. The Great Hajii, greatest and most powerful of all djinn, apparently took a liking to her (gee, I wonder why?) and made her part of his court. That is, until her bottle ended up on that island in the Pacific with her in it.

I'd put her age at about 2500 years, for this reason. Which means she's a darn sight older than Islam. But after all, you never ask a lady her age.

/I only ever watched two sitcoms as a kid- I Dream of Jeannie and Bewitched.

cheers

eon

EXCELLENT!

908 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:14:46am

re: #863 Occasional Reader

She apparently thought she was a member of Obama's cabinet.

Heh - PB0's cabinet has nothing on our lot - they have been at it for the last four years - documented.
Labour MPs ahve been the worst.
Moats and Chandeliers may sound funny (thats the Tories) - but when the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who is responsible for the Inland Revenue, cheats on his taxes, then something is very very wrong.

909 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:14:57am

re: #857 mj

As Obama Begins Trip, Arabs Want Israeli Gesture

How about this gesture?

910 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:15:24am

re: #888 sattv4u2

Don't forget all those union folks who "secretly" do their shopping there. ;9

/k, actually goin to shower

911 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:15:24am

re: #898 Occasional Reader

Well, it's not exactly like my mom and dad taught me the term "hate f*ck", either!

When I was in my mid-teens, I shut my finger in a cabinet door. I said "s**t!" - then I looked up, shaking my finger. My mom and daddy were in the dining room looking it me with "our little girl is growing up" smiles on their faces. My daddy had his arm around mom's shoulders.

912 calcajun  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:15:28am

re: #862 MandyManners

Woohoo! 85 degrees with 65 per cent humidity.

HA-- normal spring day in NOLA.

913 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:15:30am

re: #903 Occasional Reader

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I think I also read that Chavez claims to have cancelled a trip because US Intelligence intended to assassinate him. He made it clear that this had nothing to do with his high esteem for Obama though.

914 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:15:34am

re: #859 Occasional Reader

I beg to differ.

me as well...one of the most awful, insipid pop tunes ever recorded

915 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:15:44am

re: #775 DaddyG I agree with you on that DaddyG - but seems like - just going by what's on the DT today - the SILENCE of the WH about it is starting a new "news cycle" about the incident.

916 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:16:01am

re: #860 sattv4u2

Sam was SMART!


You got that right.

917 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:16:02am

re: #875 opnion

Maybe being followed by a Moon Shadow has made him paranoid.
He really led the life of a Libertine, so Islam is an odd choice.

Don't forget how some Saudi princelings behave in Europe's flesh-pots.

918 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:16:06am

re: #884 MandyManners

Are you on your knees?

"It is better to hate f**k on one's feet, than to live on one's knees", as Winston Churchill once said. Or, well, someone said something like that...

919 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:16:10am

re: #890 NJDhockeyfan

Let's see how Hugo likes being called a bourgeois reactionary.

/tormented snicker

920 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:16:16am

re: #847 Cattt

I'll bet you're smokin'! My initial gain was from medication, and it didn't go away when my doctor changed my prescription. It's been hard work, and I've gone up and down some (mainly from regaining weight I lost on Atkins, which I find to be unsustainable). Right now I'd still like to drop another 15 lbs., but I feel good enough to do this, and I've never been athletic in my life.

921 calcajun  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:16:32am

re: #897 MandyManners

Has BNP ratcheted up their campaign to portray themselves as corruption-free?

Well, they sure are devoid of ethics and tolerance.

922 mj  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:17:01am

re: #909 Kenneth

How about this gesture?


This one isn't bad either:
Image: johnny-cash-finger.jpg

923 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:17:05am

re: #911 Cattt

When I was in my mid-teens, I shut my finger in a cabinet door. I said "s**t!" - then I looked up, shaking my finger. My mom and daddy were in the dining room looking it me with "our little girl is growing up" smiles on their faces. My daddy had his arm around mom's shoulders.

I felt stupid for asking what teabagging meant not so long ago and I'm 45.

924 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:17:11am

re: #908 yma o hyd

but when the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who is responsible for the Inland Revenue, cheats on his taxes

Why, that sounds awfully familiar...

Who says the "special relationship" is dead?!

925 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:17:26am

re: #865 MandyManners

Any chance of criminal prosecution?

Police, in the form of scotland Yard, is looking into it - but far worse, so is the taxman. There will be hefty sums being paid, and the tax inspectors can indeed call for criminal prosecutions as well.

Its not over by a long chalk, and its made worse because Gord does seem to be unwilling to tackle his MPs - unlike Dave Cameron, who has been chucking them out, even those who are friends of his.

926 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:17:31am

re: #640 3 wood

Funny how our left wing posters are quiet this morning.

This one works the west coast Net late at night looking for Studebakers,, so I sleep in. What's new and exciting ?

927 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:18:11am

Gosh, remember when I said "posting will be light, because work is busy..."

Okay, I have to knock this off for now.

Later. Perhaps much.

928 acwgusa  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:18:37am

re: #906 Athens Runaway

The intro to the hatefest

Yeah, no reason to be upset here. /

Yes, lovely.

Reading things like that make me doubt both a loving God, AND Evolution.

No loving God created those people, and pond scum would evolve into a higher life form then a Playboy Online writer.

929 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:18:55am

re: #859 Occasional Reader

I beg to differ.

I so totally agree. To me, it's right down there with Yummy yummy yummy and Just call me angel of the morning.

930 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:18:56am

re: #881 Kenneth

I watched a report about the fellow -- I think it was on CBC? -- they went back to Poland -- showed where he grew up, where he lived, his life..and there was no report about any mental illness. His only known vice was heavy drinking in his younger days. (but he had stopped drinking, according to friends.) I believe the accusations that he was "schizophrenic" is used as a "cover"? or as an "explanation" for the use of the taser multiple times...it's that "excited delirium" claim (but if you watch that videotape of his last moments -- yes, he was agitated, upset, but it also shows him with his hands in the air, backing away from the cops -- yet, they just continue to taser him...they also tasered him when he was lying on the floor. I think it's much harder to come to terms with his being tasered to death, if people suspect that he wasn't in some "psychotic" state...)

931 Athens Runaway  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:18:58am

I'll make my name blue for anyone who wants to read the full version of the article. Just drop a line and I'll send it out.

932 opnion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:19:02am

re: #917 MandyManners

Don't forget how some Saudi princelings behave in Europe's flesh-pots.


They do get very unislamic when they get away from their hood.

933 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:19:20am

re: #918 Occasional Reader

"It is better to hate f**k on one's feet, than to live on one's knees", as Winston Churchill once said. Or, well, someone said something like that...

*blinkblinkblink*

934 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:19:47am

re: #877 laZardo

And you wonder why they're gonna take over the world as a unicorporation. q;

Wal-Mart shareholders meeting here this week. I took my wife to a concert they had last night. Sugarland and Brad Paisley (I knew it was going to be one of those hat singers, it just wasn't Keith Urban). Foreigner and some other rock group later in the week. Filled Bud Walton arena (20K seats). Why them? They're issuing exclusive albums.

Astounding array of vendors set up. If it's sold at Wal-Mart it looked like the vendor was represented. Acres of tents, booths, rides...reminded me of a carnival.

I did ask my daughter to get me a ride on the Goodyear blimp, though. She said she'd try, but that I should have asked sooner.

935 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:19:49am

re: #918 Occasional Reader

"It is better to hate f**k on one's feet, than to live on one's knees", as Winston Churchill once said. Or, well, someone said something like that...

Reminds me of Hall Sex.

936 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:19:55am

re: #787 sattv4u2
Try being kicked out of Mom's house when Mom died and you have certain medical problems that make it difficult for you to find someplace to live and the rest of your family doesn't want anything to do with you.
Seriously, PLEASE lay off justdanny.
He not only has skills, he has friends who also have skills.

937 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:19:58am

re: #810 JacksonTn

Killgore ... Tapper on the King Tut thing ...

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Good find, and I'm sure that explains why Drudge chose that photo today, but I have to point out that there has long been a meme among the freepers and their ilk of referring to Obama as a boy, the boy who would be king etc.

And there's also this Freeper thread comparing Obama to King Tut alll the way back in 2008:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

938 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:20:20am

re: #921 calcajun

Well, they sure are devoid of ethics and tolerance.

And, intelligence.

939 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:20:33am

re: #724 sattv4u2

OT
FREINDS ,,,

I'm taking "target" suggestions

Seems as if two days ago I pissed offf 'JustDanny". Yesterday it was "unrealizedviepoint". In both cases they were being, shall we say, out there (imho, as well as others on those particular threads, including Charles in the case of the latter)

So ,,, todays target shall be ,,,?

Target huh. how bout apologizing?

940 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:20:51am

re: #897 MandyManners

Has BNP ratcheted up their campaign to portray themselves as corruption-free?

Yes - they have. Still, people will not vote for them because they don't want to be seen as racist, or so some have said.

I think they may well win some seats on local councils - I'm not sure if they'll get seats in the EU Parliament, voter apathy will deny them that, I believe.

941 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:21:52am

re: #838 Occasional Reader

Yet another "taxpayer money used to clean his castle's moat" case?

Well, we used to just toss a sturdy peasant in ... a few laps being chased by the moat-dragon would clear up most of the algae and aquatic vegetation.

/

942 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:22:11am

re: #937 iceweasel

Good find, and I'm sure that explains why Drudge chose that photo today, but I have to point out that there has long been a meme among the freepers and their ilk of referring to Obama as a boy, the boy who would be king etc.

And there's also this Freeper thread comparing Obama to King Tut alll the way back in 2008:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

IW ... you know what ... I could give a flying flip what is on freerepublic ... really ... why don't you just go out and find the most extreme examples ... you will forever take Obama side on just about anything ...

943 ladycatnip  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:22:19am

Anybody seen this headline? U.S. government releases locations of nuke sites in U.S. by accident - highly classified to boot.

Another write-up here.

Drudge also has a pic of a newsman bowing to Obama - but the link wouldn't work.

Crazy morning.

944 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:22:20am

re: #925 yma o hyd

Police, in the form of scotland Yard, is looking into it - but far worse, so is the taxman. There will be hefty sums being paid, and the tax inspectors can indeed call for criminal prosecutions as well.

Its not over by a long chalk, and its made worse because Gord does seem to be unwilling to tackle his MPs - unlike Dave Cameron, who has been chucking them out, even those who are friends of his.

Good for him! Show those NuLabs to be the curs they are.

945 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:22:36am

re: #924 Occasional Reader

Why, that sounds awfully familiar...

Who says the "special relationship" is dead?!

Teeheehee!
Looks rather as if PB0's cabinet have followed the lead of our NuLab crowd here!

946 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:22:39am

Those lovely antisemitic Serbs that Spencer supports...
Bosnia Jew Sues for Exclusion from Top Gov't Position


Bosnian citizens Jakob Finci and Dervo Sejdic, the first a Jew and the second an ethnic Roma, are suing their country for discrimination. The two will bring Bosnia before the European Court of Human Rights on Wednesday for barring minorities from top government positions.

The Bosnian constitution allows Christian Orthodox Serbs, Muslim Bosniaks and Roman Catholic Croats to run for the positions of president or member of Parliament. Other ethnic and religious minorities are excluded from those positions.

947 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:22:59am

Was Dana Perino in the list of top tens? She is a cutie! (On FOX right now)

948 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:23:18am

re: #932 opnion

They do get very unislamic when they get away from their hood.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

949 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:23:28am

re: #947 VegasRick

Was Dana Perino in the list of top tens? She is a cutie! (On FOX right now)

Yup, I'm pretty sure.

950 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:23:45am

re: #809 Honorary Yooper
Hold on a sec - gotta go search through couch cushions and all.
...er, No.

951 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:23:47am

re: #939 unrealizedviewpoint

Target huh. how bout apologizing?

for ?

Okay,,, I'm sorry that you kept insisting Tiller be prosecuted for a NON crime and i'm sorry that by your own admission you didn't know anything about the case he was aquitted on!

There ,, feel better?

952 Athens Runaway  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:23:50am

re: #947 VegasRick

Yeah, she was.

953 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:24:09am

re: #947 VegasRick

Was Dana Perino in the list of top tens? She is a cutie! (On FOX right now)

She looked cute with a black eye also

954 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:24:42am

Re: this "No true Scotsman" argument, I've been doing a lot of thinking on this. When what you're saying is a definitional thing, can we honestly say it? For instance; If the local director of MADD was arrested for DUI, could you not say they were not a MADD by definition? If the local founder of a vegan group was caught eating a juicy hamburger, could you not say they were not a "true" vegan? I am pro-life and I don't claim this psycho as one of my own by definition.

955 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:24:56am

re: #928 acwgusa

Yes, lovely.

Reading things like that make me doubt both a loving God, AND Evolution.

No loving God created those people, and pond scum would evolve into a higher life form then a Playboy Online writer.

Forgive me for quoting the Bible, but:

This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

1 Timothy 1:15

956 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:25:00am

re: #940 yma o hyd

Yes - they have. Still, people will not vote for them because they don't want to be seen as racist, or so some have said.

I think they may well win some seats on local councils - I'm not sure if they'll get seats in the EU Parliament, voter apathy will deny them that, I believe.

Despite the short-term harm to the locals, I hope the new BNP local representatives fuck up like many of their predecessors have done.

957 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:25:49am

re: #944 MandyManners

Good for him! Show those NuLabs to be the curs they are.

He's been pretty good, has Dave.
I've been reading lots of stuff by Tory MPs, on some blogs - I'm seriously considering joining them. They do seem to really want to implement lots of change, making British politics a bit more like US Politics, involving the people much more than NuLab ever has done.
On all levels.

958 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:25:59am

re: #949 Pianobuff

Yup, I'm pretty sure.

re: #952 Athens Runaway

Yeah, she was.

re: #953 Nevergiveup

She looked cute with a black eye also

Thanks all.

959 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:26:02am

re: #903 Occasional Reader

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Laugh. No one wants to see a grown man cry.

/actual fatherly advice

960 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:26:06am

re: #946 Killgore Trout

Those lovely antisemitic Serbs that Spencer supports...
Bosnia Jew Sues for Exclusion from Top Gov't Position

Jews and Gypsies being denied rights. Where have I heard of that before?

961 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:26:06am

Possible gunman on Princeton University Campus?

962 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:26:17am

Obama the Clueless

As Mr. Obama stood in line at a D.C. hamburger stand on Friday. Engaging a fellow patron named Walter in casual conversation, the President appeared clueless when the man identified himself as an NGA employee:

Obama: What do you do Walter?

Walter: I work at, uh, NGA, National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency

Obama: Outstanding, how long you been doing that?

Walter: About six years

Obama: Yea?

Walter: Yes.

Obama: You like it?

Walter: I do, keeps me...

Obama: So explain to me exactly what this National Geospatial...uh...

Walter: Uh, we work with, uh, satellite imagery..

Obama: Right

Walter: [unintelligible] ...support systems, so...

Obama: Sounds like good work.

Walter: Enjoy the weekend.

Obama: Appreciate it.

Think about that: Suppose you work for the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. But your president has never even heard of it. Does that give you confidence in your Commander in Chief?

Least. Qualified. President. Ever.

963 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:26:28am

re: #954 Spenser (with an S)

Re: this "No true Scotsman" argument, I've been doing a lot of thinking on this. When what you're saying is a definitional thing, can we honestly say it? For instance; If the local director of MADD was arrested for DUI, could you not say they were not a MADD by definition? If the local founder of a vegan group was caught eating a juicy hamburger, could you not say they were not a "true" vegan? I am pro-life and I don't claim this psycho as one of my own by definition.

The issue becomes the definition itself as two claiming to be Scotsmen can supply conflicting definitions at the exclusion of the other party.

964 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:26:38am

So the Little Rock jihadi may have been part of a larger plot?

Source: More Targets Found on Arkansas Shooting Suspect's Computer

965 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:26:43am

re: #934 razorbacker

Wal-Mart shareholders meeting here this week. I took my wife to a concert they had last night. Sugarland and Brad Paisley (I knew it was going to be one of those hat singers, it just wasn't Keith Urban). Foreigner and some other rock group later in the week. Filled Bud Walton arena (20K seats). Why them? They're issuing exclusive albums.

Astounding array of vendors set up. If it's sold at Wal-Mart it looked like the vendor was represented. Acres of tents, booths, rides...reminded me of a carnival.

I did ask my daughter to get me a ride on the Goodyear blimp, though. She said she'd try, but that I should have asked sooner.

The world is Wal-Mart's.

/scarface scene

966 irongrampa  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:26:54am

re: #830 redstateredneck

GMTA. Convenience stores are great for just this kinda stuff. That convenience, used judiciously, is worth the price paid, imho. Not so much if they're used as a primary shopping point.

967 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:26:58am

re: #837 yma o hyd
Hey there {yma} good news to start the day! How are you feeling today?

968 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:26:59am

re: #954 Spenser (with an S)

It's still a logical fallacy no matter how you slice it.

969 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:27:15am

re: #960 MandyManners

Jews and Gypsies being denied rights. Where have I heard of that before?

Kazakhstan?

///not very niii~ce

970 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:27:37am

re: #960 MandyManners

I didn't know they have that provision in the constitution. Very creepy.

971 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:27:48am

re: #964 Ward Cleaver

So the Little Rock jihadi may have been part of a larger plot?

Source: More Targets Found on Arkansas Shooting Suspect's Computer

A real sweetheart?

972 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:27:49am

re: #957 yma o hyd

He's been pretty good, has Dave.
I've been reading lots of stuff by Tory MPs, on some blogs - I'm seriously considering joining them. They do seem to really want to implement lots of change, making British politics a bit more like US Politics, involving the people much more than NuLab ever has done.
On all levels.

Is the Conservative party the Tory party? I'm thinking they're not.

973 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:27:58am

I am going on the record here as saying that IMO anyone who thinks this Hatef*ck or GrudgeF*ck is funny is whacked ... I guess it is still okay to say this about women ... and to the liberal women who find this funny in any way ... yeah, you just keep thinking that the dems have your best interest in mind ... ha ... Roe v. Wade has been something that the dems hold women in the party with every election ... Playboy go to hell ...

974 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:28:16am

re: #947 VegasRick

Was Dana Perino in the list of top tens? She is a cutie! (On FOX right now)

How can you post that and not include a link of a photo of her !?!?!

Image: pool_us_dana_perino_195_27Sep07.jpg

975 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:28:18am

re: #954 Spenser (with an S)

Re: this "No true Scotsman" argument, I've been doing a lot of thinking on this. When what you're saying is a definitional thing, can we honestly say it? For instance; If the local director of MADD was arrested for DUI, could you not say they were not a MADD by definition? If the local founder of a vegan group was caught eating a juicy hamburger, could you not say they were not a "true" vegan? I am pro-life and I don't claim this psycho as one of my own by definition.

BTW, I've heard of at least one case in the past where a MADD official was arrested for DWI.

976 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:28:42am

re: #964 Ward Cleaver

So the Little Rock jihadi may have been part of a larger plot?

Source: More Targets Found on Arkansas Shooting Suspect's Computer

Speculation is not allowed, unless the target of said speculation is a "right-winger", can be associated with "right-wingers", has appeared at a "Tea Party", etc. etc. etc.

/then it's a Mad Minute. Fire away!

/

977 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:28:52am

re: #974 sattv4u2

How can you post that and not include a link of a photo of her !?!?!

[Link: www.voanews.com...]

Is she married to some old guy?

978 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:02am

re: #971 Nevergiveup

A real sweetheart?

He may not be the only one in on the deal.

979 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:07am

re: #956 MandyManners

Despite the short-term harm to the locals, I hope the new BNP local representatives fuck up like many of their predecessors have done.

They sure will.
Interestingly enough - there hasn't been a peep from them here in Wales.
Yes, they have some standing for the EU, but no leaflets, nothing.
Mind - we don't have local elections here - three more years to go.

980 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:14am

re: #961 Nevergiveup

Possible gunman on Princeton University Campus?

[Link: www.nj.com...]

981 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:14am

re: #889 yma o hyd

The BNP has no chance of winning seats in a General Election.
The LibDems may profit - from a slight basis, but might overtake Labour in a General election if Gord tries to hang on.

The Tories are top of the polls, and Dave Cameron has really taken political change as main talking point, as well as the EU.
He's announced that he will ahve a referendum on that horrible 'Constitution', and the law is already being prepared.
He's also said that all Tory MEPs who get elected will form a proper opposition there, and not be udner the blanekt with all the Euro-Federalists.

We'll see how the election to the EU Parliament turns out, tomorrow.

Funny in a cool way how Britain is regarded by Mainland Europeans in a similar way to America being regarded by the EU in general. q;

982 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:21am

re: #966 irongrampa

GMTA. Convenience stores are great for just this kinda stuff. That convenience, used judiciously, is worth the price paid, imho. Not so much if they're used as a primary shopping point.

And where else can you get a U-Heat-Em burrito?
;-)

983 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:28am

re: #962 Kenneth

Obama the Clueless

As Mr. Obama stood in line at a D.C. hamburger stand on Friday. Engaging a fellow patron named Walter in casual conversation, the President appeared clueless when the man identified himself as an NGA employee:


Think about that: Suppose you work for the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. But your president has never even heard of it. Does that give you confidence in your Commander in Chief?

Least. Qualified. President. Ever.


Walter: I do, keeps me...

Obama: So explain to me exactly what this National Geospatial...uh...

So, he interrupts a man just to tell him to explain it to him.

MEMEMEMEEE.

984 mj  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:42am

AP lies:

"

Bin Laden cited anger at U.S. support for Israel as the guiding philosophy of the terrorist organization that drew American forces into wars in Afghanistan, where he was believed to be hiding, and Iraq, which was flooded by al-Qaida fighters after the U.S. invasion in 2003."

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


Not true. Bin Laden cited American troops on holy Saudi soil.

This is a flat out lie brought to you by the Associated Press.

985 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:49am

re: #961 Nevergiveup

Thanks for the headsup...

Princeton Emergency Notification

This hasn't hit mainstream media yet this morning, but Twitter users are rapidly retweeting an emergency notification on Princeton University's home page about a suspect with a handgun near a dorm on campus shortly before 11 a.m. (Eastern time).

Here's the text of the advisory, posted at 8:07 a.m. Tucson time:

Shortly before 11 a.m., a suspect with a handgun was reported near the Dod Hall dormitory. Princeton University's Department of Public of Safety and Princeton Borough and Township police are investigating.

Stay indoors until further instructions.

Check the Princeton home page at [Link: www.princeton.edu...] for updates. Campus community members can check their e-mails, as well.

986 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:52am

re: #976 OldLineTexan

Speculation is not allowed, unless the target of said speculation is a "right-winger", can be associated with "right-wingers", has appeared at a "Tea Party", etc. etc. etc.

/then it's a Mad Minute. Fire away!

/

He probably likes iced tea. Does that count?

987 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:53am

re: #459 MandyManners

FCBBHO is playing US, the citizens of this nation.


He's playing many Americans, but not us. I look at Obama as basically a weak man. He may think he can bully Israel, but Israel has plenty of support in this country both among Jews and Gentiles. They didn't survive this long by allowing themselves to be pushed around. And if he really thinks Israel will allow itself to be used in his triangulation strategy, he has another thing coming.

988 3 wood  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:30:06am

Bernanke wants Obama to cut the deficit:


Bernanke Warns on Deficits as Treasury Rates Rise


Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is urging Congress and the Obama administration to start plotting a strategy to curb record-high U.S. budget deficits.

Failing to do so could eventually erode investor confidence and endanger the economy's prospects for long-term health, he said.

the options are to:

1. cut spending
2. Raise taxes
3. Some combination of the above
4. Just spend and watch the economy implode.

I think Obama will choose door #2

989 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:30:21am

re: #973 JacksonTn
A ding for your chivalry.

990 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:30:24am

re: #969 laZardo

Kazakhstan?

///not very niii~ce

I was thinking 1930s Europe.

991 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:30:39am

re: #986 Ward Cleaver

He probably likes iced tea. Does that count?

It places him under suspicion ... although I think the FBI had already taken care of that after his "vacation".

/

992 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:30:42am

re: #971 Nevergiveup

A senior U.S. official tells FOX News that more targets were found on the computer of a man charged in the fatal shooting at a military recruiting center in Arkansas — suggesting the accused gunman may have been part of a larger plot to attack military targets and may not have been acting alone.

Officers found maps to Jewish organizations, a Baptist church, a child care center, a post office and military recruiting centers in the southeastern U.S., New York and Philadelphia, according to a joint FBI-Homeland Security intelligence assessment obtained by The Associated Press.


Very interesting.

993 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:30:52am

re: #977 Nevergiveup

Is she married to some old guy?

If not ,,, I'll volunteer!

I qualify!

994 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:30:56am

re: #967 realwest

Hey there {yma} good news to start the day! How are you feeling today?

Hiya, {rw}!

Thanks - its a bit cooler today, with a nice breeze, so I'm feeling good!
So is Madame - we both don't like the heat, anything above 75 is too hot for us!

995 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:31:10am

re: #970 Killgore Trout

I didn't know they have that provision in the constitution. Very creepy.

Didn't they learn a thing from history?

996 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:31:18am

The U.S. president called Abdullah wise and gracious, adding: "I am confident that working together that the United States and Saudi Arabia can make progress on a whole host of issues of mutual interest."

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

"Mutual Interests"? What "mutual interests"? Is the USA know intereseted in fucking Israel? Is Saudi Arabia committed to keeping the price of oil down?

997 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:31:25am

re: #984 mj

AP lies:

"

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Not true. Bin Laden cited American troops on holy Saudi soil.

This is a flat out lie brought to you by the Associated Press.

Yeah, what a steaming load that statement was. This is all about turning the U.S. against Israel.

998 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:31:28am

re: #972 MandyManners

Is the Conservative party the Tory party? I'm thinking they're not.

They are one and the same.

999 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:31:35am

re: #859 Occasional Reader
You don't have to "beg" O.R. - if you take the "City" as the group itself, the song is actually true!

1000 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:31:46am

You need a MAP to a Baptist church in Arkansas?

/

1001 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:31:53am

re: #996 Nevergiveup

The U.S. president called Abdullah wise and gracious, adding: "I am confident that working together that the United States and Saudi Arabia can make progress on a whole host of issues of mutual interest."

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

"Mutual Interests"? What "mutual interests"? Is the USA know intereseted in fucking Israel? Is Saudi Arabia committed to keeping the price of oil down?

Stopping Iran.

1002 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:32:09am

re: #974 sattv4u2

How can you post that and not include a link of a photo of her !?!?!

[Link: www.voanews.com...]

You are correct! WWIT!?

1003 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:32:19am

re: #988 3 wood

Bernanke wants Obama to cut the deficit:

Bernanke Warns on Deficits as Treasury Rates Rise

the options are to:

1. cut spending
2. Raise taxes
3. Some combination of the above
4. Just spend and watch the economy implode.

I think Obama will choose door #2

Crank up the printing presses! Add shifts and overtime! More money! MORE MONEY!

1004 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:32:36am

re: #988 3 wood

Bernanke wants Obama to cut the deficit:

Bernanke Warns on Deficits as Treasury Rates Rise

the options are to:

1. cut spending
2. Raise taxes
3. Some combination of the above
4. Just spend and watch the economy implode.

I think Obama will choose door #2

5. Monetize the debt (not an option I'd take btw)

1005 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:32:41am

re: #1001 lawhawk

And Saudi Arabia needs the US to buy oil, so if the US economy falters, the Saudis take a significant economic hit. That is the impetus to keep oil prices down to spur economic activity.

1006 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:32:44am

re: #988 3 wood

Looks like #2 or #4. He did show signs of backing off on major entitlement programs for a while but he seems determined to plow ahead.

1007 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:32:47am

bbiab

1008 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:33:06am

re: #995 MandyManners

Didn't they learn a thing from history?

Probably stopped reading right after "Power grows from the barrel of a gun."

/Mao, IIRC

1009 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:33:10am

re: #1001 lawhawk

Stopping Iran.

And we are doing What to accomplish that?

1010 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:33:14am

re: #951 sattv4u2

for ?

Okay,,, I'm sorry that you kept insisting Tiller be prosecuted for a NON crime and i'm sorry that by your own admission you didn't know anything about the case he was aquitted on!

There ,, feel better?


That was not anywhere near what I was saying yesterday. It wasn't even about the prosecution of the man. It was hypothetical as to prosecution had he not been murdered. But your inability to see past your pro-abortion stance at someone else viewpoint prevents you from seeing rationally. You see a possible opposing viewpoint and you attack personally hoping to get in a dig just to piss em off. Kind of like a child.

1011 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:33:33am

re: #1004 Pianobuff

Monetize the debt


What does that mean?

1012 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:33:53am

re: #879 lawhawk
Great comment. Thanks!

1013 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:34:04am

re: #1006 Killgore Trout

Congress is definitely going to push ahead with both the climate change package and the health care reform bill, and Rangel wants the climate change bill tackled first.

1014 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:34:05am

re: #1005 lawhawk

And Saudi Arabia needs the US to buy oil, so if the US economy falters, the Saudis take a significant economic hit. That is the impetus to keep oil prices down to spur economic activity.

So let them lower the price of a barrel of Oil?

1015 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:34:30am

re: #1009 Nevergiveup

And we are doing What to accomplish that?

Drafting a strongly-worded letter.

1016 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:34:46am

re: #1013 lawhawk

Congress is definitely going to push ahead with both the climate change package and the health care reform bill, and Rangel wants the climate change bill tackled first.

Good old Charlie. Another reason to hate NYC.

1017 eon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:35:07am

re: #959 OldLineTexan

Laugh. No one wants to see a grown man cry.

/actual fatherly advice



"Men swear to keep from crying, and women cry to keep from swearing. Both are necessary safety valves to release pressure that would otherwise blow valves or fry circuits."

-Kimball Kinnison, Lensman, Unattached.

Oops, have to run.

Have a great day, Lizards.

cheers

eon

1018 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:35:08am

re: #1013 lawhawk

Congress is definitely going to push ahead with both the climate change package and the health care reform bill, and Rangel wants the climate change bill tackled first.

He must have some money in that.

1019 Racer X  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:35:17am

re: #988 3 wood

Bernanke wants Obama to cut the deficit:

Bernanke Warns on Deficits as Treasury Rates Rise

the options are to:

1. cut spending
2. Raise taxes
3. Some combination of the above
4. Just spend and watch the economy implode.

I think Obama will choose door #2

Hmmm.

Obama seems like the type of guy who will cut spending and raise taxes. But the spending he will cut is the pork spending that got crammed into the Stimulus Package. He will then shout from the rooftops how great he is at cutting spending (that we didn't need in the first place) and reducing the deficit (by raising taxes - a lot).

1020 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:35:18am

re: #963 Pianobuff

The issue becomes the definition itself as two claiming to be Scotsmen can supply conflicting definitions at the exclusion of the other party.

Right, but their argument is geographically-based, which is just saying "I don't want to claim anyone who would do that as one of my own" when they are obviously and undeniably countrymen, regardless of their differing beliefs.

1021 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:36:01am

re: #1010 unrealizedviewpoint

And I stated that I am 'pro abortion" in exactly which post?

(that ought to keep you busy for a long LONG time,,, because like Diogense, you can keep seaching, doesn't mean you'll find it)

1022 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:36:02am

18:15 UN: U.S. should disclose exact number of civilian deaths in overseas wars

Mind your own business and oh by the way: Kiss my ass.

1023 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:36:19am

re: #1018 Ward Cleaver

He must have some money in that.

I really think the hair grease has permeated through that 3-inch plate of stone he calls a "skull" and has hit his major ganglial bundle.

/

1024 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:36:40am

And while we're talking (or some of us were about music, I LOVE this one:

1025 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:37:08am

re: #1001 lawhawk

Stopping Iran.

Reading the Saudi press, that is near the top of the list for the Saudi's.

1026 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:37:28am

@ cattt and doppelganglander:

Congrats on that pound-shedding!

I was in a similar situation, thanks to oral steroids. Couldn't shift it for years. Then it all went, due to a stomach complaint. I went down two dress sizes ... what a brilliant reason to change one's wardrobe!

Well done the two of you!

1027 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:37:42am

re: #964 Ward Cleaver

So the Little Rock jihadi may have been part of a larger plot?

Source: More Targets Found on Arkansas Shooting Suspect's Computer

From your link:

Muhammad, a U.S. citizen, is accused of carrying out a targeted attack against U.S. forces because of "political and religious motives" and already had been under investigation by the FBI at the time of the shootings.

An FBI joint terrorism task force based in the southern U.S. reportedly had been tracking Muhammad after he traveled to Yemen and was arrested and jailed there for using a Somali passport, an official told The Associated Press. The probe had been in its early stages and based on Muhammad's trip to Yemen, ABC News reported.

1028 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:38:00am

re: #1025 avanti

Reading the Saudi press, that is near the top of the list for the Saudi's.

So let them open all their air bases to the IDF and get out of the way?
/

1029 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:38:04am

re: #1015 Ward Cleaver

Drafting a strongly-worded letter.

Ya , but THIS time, he's not going to just draft it ,,, he's really really going to print it out and put it in an envelope in case he ever wants to mail it! He REALLY means it this time!

1030 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:38:07am

re: #1024 realwest

{real}!

1031 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:38:11am

re: #1025 avanti

Reading the Saudi press, that is near the top of the list for the Saudi's.

Well, let's saddle up the camels and ride on Tehran, then.

The semi-imprisoned Filipina housekeepers ain't gonna do it.

/

1032 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:38:44am

re: #942 JacksonTn

IW ... you know what ... I could give a flying flip what is on freerepublic ... really ... why don't you just go out and find the most extreme examples ... you will forever take Obama side on just about anything ...

Sorry, I guess I should have addressed this to Kilgore or just made it a post.

I wasn't attacking you.

For the record, I disagree with Obama on a lot of things.

1033 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:39:30am

re: #1032 iceweasel

Sorry, I guess I should have addressed this to Kilgore or just made it a post.

I wasn't attacking you.

For the record, I disagree with Obama on a lot of things.

I like his dog ... apparently, it made at least a show of eating a reporter.

/good doggie

1034 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:39:33am

re: #983 MandyManners

It's not a matter of face time. Traditionally, the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) has included a healthy dose of satellite imagery, which accompanies the various articles found in the update. Images provided by NGA are emblazoned with that organization's logo, but (apparently) it didn't make much of an impression on the intel consumer-in-chief.

As Commander-in-Chief, there is no requirement for Mr. Obama to know the intricate details of how the government's 16 intelligence agencies operate. But as the ultimate customer for intelligence, you'd think he'd have a little more interest in an organization that employs thousands of Americans, spends billions of dollars every year, and provides critical intel that helps him formulate policy decisions.

We can be certain Obama's daily intel briefings included satellite photos of North Korea. They were kind of in the news lately for some reason. You think the CiC might have noticed the NGA logo on those files?

That's why Admiral Murrett (Director of the NGA) will soon come calling at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Mr. Obama is not a student of the U.S. intelligence community, but he is a master of the art of politics. Friday's exchange at the burger joint was clearly a major gaffe, although it's received little attention outside of the Politico or conservative blogs.

If we've learned anything about President Obama during his time in office, it's this: he appears to have a thin skin, and doesn't take kindly to personal embarrassments**. So, it's time for a little sit-down with Admiral Murrett on the finer points of NGA, just in case the president finds himself in another line, and wondering aloud about this "National Geospatial" organization that supports him on a daily basis.


** Having a thin skin and a tendency to angry reaction to personal embarrassment is a key marker of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Just saying.

1035 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:39:40am

re: #1011 Killgore Trout

As a matter of a central bank's daily ordinary functions, bond traders that work at a central bank's trading desk routinely purchase and sell government securities. In fact, its is through buying and selling securities in this manner that central banks like the Fed increase or decrease the nation's money supply. Want more money out there? Buy securities and pay for them. Want a little less out there? Sell securities, then collect the payment afterward and keep it.

So how could a country take advantage of this arrangement? Well, suppose a national treasury knows it does not have sufficient funds in the coffers to pay its bills. And either because of recession or politics, higher taxes are not viewed as a viable option. Then if the treasury printed some new bonds (the instrument governments use to borrow money), and those brand new bonds ultimately were purchased by the central bank using an increase in the money supply to make its payment, then the central bank and the treasury would have achieved monetary alchemy: they would have created new money where there had been none before--new money the treasury will use for bill paying.

1036 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:39:55am

re: #1031 OldLineTexan

Well, let's saddle up the camels and ride on Tehran, then.

The semi-imprisoned Filipina housekeepers ain't gonna do it.

/

OLT ... I don't get it ... if the Saudis want to do something about Iran ... why don't they do it ... I mean they are in the neighborhood ... oh, yeah, don't want it to seem like a muslim is doing it ... just get the real bad guys to take them on ... U.S. or Israel ...

1037 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:40:05am

re: #1028 Nevergiveup

So let them open all their air bases to the IDF and get out of the way?
/

Step one to help intimidate Iran would be Arab states to open relations with Israel as part of the Saudi peace plan.

1038 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:40:20am

Mine That Bird.

Claymore The Rooster.

1039 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:40:21am

re: #1033 OldLineTexan

I like his dog ... apparently, it made at least a show of eating a reporter.

/good doggie

Barney Bush actually bit a reporter.

1040 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:40:52am

Meanwhile, according to a report in the London-based Al-Quds Al-Arabi,
Obama intended to appeal to the Saudi leadership to open an interest office in Tel Aviv as a goodwill gesture towards Israel that would signify the beginning of normalizing relations between Jerusalem and Riyadh.

According to the report, the office would allow Israelis to apply for visas to visit Saudi Arabia as tourists and allow El Al aircraft to fly through Saudi air space.

There are indications that the Saudis will not accede to proposed gestures, but rather insist that Israel first make confidence-building measures, such as dismantling West Bank settlements or committing to a two-state solution, said the paper

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

"the Saudis will not accede to proposed gestures" No shit Sherlock!

1041 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:40:53am

re: #800 J.S.

Oh please. So at an international airport they can't find a translator after how many hours?

I was at Atlanta Hartsfield airport when they had a request over the intercom for someone who could speak le Français Canadien. Ordinary France French just wouldn't do, I guess.

1042 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:41:29am

re: #1021 sattv4u2

And I stated that I am 'pro abortion" in exactly which post?

(that ought to keep you busy for a long LONG time,,, because like Diogense, you can keep seaching, doesn't mean you'll find it)

People don't get overly emotional and antagonistic (as you were/are) about a subject matter unless they are heavily invested. I don't need look, you've told us.

Just for clarification - would you consider yourself pro-choice or pro-life?

1043 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:41:34am

re: #1031 OldLineTexan

Well, let's saddle up the camels and ride on Tehran, then.

The semi-imprisoned Filipina housekeepers ain't gonna do it.

/

Sadly. ;_;

1044 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:41:55am

re: #1024 realwest

And while we're talking (or some of us were about music, I LOVE this one: [Link: vimeo.com...]

booked it the first time around...sent to a bunch of people...very cool vid, and thanks again

1045 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:42:19am

re: #1037 avanti

Step one to help intimidate Iran would be Arab states to open relations with Israel as part of the Saudi peace plan.

The Saudi Peace plan. Please? What a crock of shit!

1046 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:42:36am

re: #1022 Nevergiveup

18:15 UN: U.S. should disclose exact number of civilian deaths in overseas wars

Mind your own business and oh by the way: Kiss my ass.

In fact, the US should do that. They should also include a breakdown of the statistics to show how the vast majority of civilians killed in Iraq were killed by the fucking terrorists, not by the US who have been sacrificing their own troops to protect the civilians.

1047 KansasMom  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:42:36am

re: #1041 Alouette

I was at Atlanta Hartsfield airport when they had a request over the intercom for someone who could speak le Français Canadien. Ordinary France French just wouldn't do, I guess.

I was told by a French exchange student that although they called it "French", French Canadian was a different language. She was a little snobby about it...

1048 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:42:40am

re: #1042 unrealizedviewpoint

People don't get overly emotional and antagonistic (as you were/are) about a subject matter unless they are heavily invested. I don't need look, you've told us.

Just for clarification - would you consider yourself pro-choice or pro-life?

pro life
You're now still batting ZERO

LESSON ,, "look" next time !

1049 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:42:50am

re: #1043 laZardo

Sadly. ;_;

Lazardo ... what is that after sadly? ... crying? ... I am the worst at making that stuff ... ya'll got it down ...

1050 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:42:55am

re: #3 Desert Dog

New avatar ideas for Iron Fist

I've got to hand it to the French. Their nuclear tests had a certain eclat.

1051 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:43:11am

re: #1000 OldLineTexan

You need a MAP to a Baptist church in Arkansas?

/

Didn't specify, but why would he have potential targets in NYC, Philadelphia, Jewish centers (not to be crude, but in Arkansas you're not going to find a whole lot of Jewish centers), etc.

Be nice to know if this was a specific list for him alone, or a laundry list given to multiple actors.

1052 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:43:31am

re: #968 Killgore Trout
It's not a logical fallacy unless you believe that there is no such thing as a True Scotsman. It is in fact a logical fallacy that has a sort of silly appeal for folks who perhaps don't think much of anything stands for much of anything.

1053 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:43:46am

re: #1025 avanti

Are you saying you read the Saudi press? Got any links?

1054 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:43:48am

re: #1047 KansasMom

I was told by a French exchange student that although they called it "French", French Canadian was a different language. She was a little snobby about it...

They probably really look down on Cajun French.

1055 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:43:49am

Here are some other news - more personal:

Friday, we'll have a day visitor, a four-legged one. If he can stand being loved to bits by Madame, he'll come to stay for three weeks!
He's a Border Collie, natch, pretty big, and mostly black, His name is Baz.
I'm really looking forward to that!

1056 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:43:53am

re: #1046 Kenneth

In fact, the US should do that. They should also include a breakdown of the statistics to show how the vast majority of civilians killed in Iraq were killed by the fucking terrorists, not by the US who have been sacrificing their own troops to protect the civilians.

If the US wants to do that fine, but the UN can take a long walk off a short Pier.

1057 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:43:54am

re: #1039 redstateredneck

Barney Bush actually bit a reporter.

Lynne Cheney bit a bush.
/not that that's a bad thing

1058 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:44:22am

KT: Forgot to give credit... the explanation of debt monetization was taken from this article, which was one of the first returned on a Google search of "monetize debt". I haven't read the author's other work, but this adequately explains what I was referring to.

1059 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:44:38am

re: #1049 JacksonTn

I'm living in the Philippines. Lots of people here go overseas because there's just not enough good-paying work here, many of them ending up in the Middle East in conditions previously described.

1060 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:44:40am

re: #1055 yma o hyd

Here are some other news - more personal:

Friday, we'll have a day visitor, a four-legged one. If he can stand being loved to bits by Madame, he'll come to stay for three weeks!
He's a Border Collie, natch, pretty big, and mostly black, His name is Baz.
I'm really looking forward to that!

yma ... Border Collies Rock! ... they are the smartest dogs and so sweet ...

1061 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:44:50am

re: #1041 Alouette

re: #1047 KansasMom

I was told by a French exchange student that although they called it "French", French Canadian was a different language. She was a little snobby about it...

Snobby or not, she was correct. It;s not totally different, but the 'French" spoken in the provence of Quebec is markedly different than say Paris

1062 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:45:08am

re: #1046 Kenneth

In fact, the US should do that. They should also include a breakdown of the statistics to show how the vast majority of civilians killed in Iraq were killed by the fucking terrorists, not by the US who have been sacrificing their own troops to protect the civilians.

Perfect!

1063 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:45:42am

re: #1054 redstateredneck

They probably really look down on Cajun French.

Gar Un Teed !

1064 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:45:44am

re: #1035 Pianobuff
Thank you very much for explaining that.

1065 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:46:08am

re: #1059 laZardo

I'm living in the Philippines. Lots of people here go overseas because there's just not enough good-paying work here, many of them ending up in the Middle East in conditions previously described.

Lazardo ... oh, I know ... that is sad ... I have a couple of friends who are from the Phillippines ... both nurses ... I was talking about the picture which I guess is crying ... I need to practice ... I am not good at expressing myself like ya'll do with the different keystrokes ...

1066 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:46:10am

re: #1053 Kenneth

Are you saying you read the Saudi press? Got any links?

Saudi.

1067 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:46:30am

re: #1057 VegasRick

Lynne Cheney bit a bush.
/not that that's a bad thing

Mary, not Lynne!

1068 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:46:50am

re: #1060 JacksonTn

yma ... Border Collies Rock! ... they are the smartest dogs and so sweet ...

You're telling me!
Madame is one, well, with some whippet in her.
She is too clever by half - but yes, she can be so sweet.
Big Dog was even sweeter, and even cleverer. I still miss him.

1069 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:46:50am

re: #1034 Kenneth

** Having a thin skin and a tendency to angry reaction to personal embarrassment is a key marker of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Just saying.

Text-book traits.

1070 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:46:51am

re: #1065 JacksonTn

S'aight.

1071 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:46:59am

re: #1033 OldLineTexan

I like his dog ... apparently, it made at least a show of eating a reporter.

/good doggie

I'll love any dog that will do that!
Didn't Bush's dog try to take a bite out of a reporter once too?

1072 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:47:04am

re: #1054 redstateredneck

They probably really look down on Cajun French.

everybody else did, why not?...not fair really but they have a history too

1073 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:47:54am

re: #1067 redstateredneck

Mary, not Lynne!

My bad! Saw her last night with her dad. I'd vote for her anyday.

1074 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:48:16am

re: #1038 SasquatchOnSteroids

Mine That Bird.

Claymore The Rooster.

Dancing cockatoo.

1075 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:48:17am

re: #1047 KansasMom

Quebecers get a lot of attitude when they visit France. I was in a restaurant in France, with a colleague from Quebec. He kept trying to order in French, as he spoke it with a thick "jouall" accent. The waiter kept misunderstanding him, and gave him no help at all. Finally my colleague had to resort to ordering in English. He found this infuriating.

1076 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:48:36am

re: #1071 iceweasel

I'll love any dog that will do that!
Didn't Bush's dog try to take a bite out of a reporter once too?

Captured on film.

1077 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:49:09am

re: #1064 Killgore Trout

My pleasure.

1078 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:49:35am

re: #1075 Kenneth

Quebecers get a lot of attitude when they visit France. I was in a restaurant in France, with a colleague from Quebec. He kept trying to order in French, as he spoke it with a thick "jouall" accent. The waiter kept misunderstanding him, and gave him no help at all. Finally my colleague had to resort to ordering in English. He found this infuriating.


He should have just started speaking LOUDER! Works everytime!
/

1079 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:49:44am

re: #1030 redstateredneck
{red} - glad you liked it - kumbahesque though it may be, still great tune and some really good singers and players from the Netherlands and Russia too!
Course, it doesn't hurt that it's a great song to begin with!

1080 laZardo  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:50:24am

Headin to bed. Cheers.

1081 Millicent Islam  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:50:29am

re: #1076 redstateredneck

Beautiful. I'll be watching this alll day! Thanks for the link.

1082 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:51:03am

OMG. It's a bow! Seethe! Seethe! Tea Party!
Video: Did Brian Williams bow to Barack Obama?

1083 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:51:10am

Gingrich backs off 'racist' label for Sotomayor

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Good on him. That word may be THE most mis-used word in our cultural debate

Predjudice, yes,,, we ALL have those

But 'racists',,, there are scant few (Thank God) left in this country

and i'm talking about the DEFINITION here, being the beleife that one race is GENETICALLy superior

1084 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:51:16am

re: #1048 sattv4u2

pro life
You're now still batting ZERO

LESSON ,, "look" next time !

That's something, you pull my comment yesterday out of context, add your meaning to it, insult me, and you don't even have the courage of your own convictions. You run with the mob. Your unable to hold an opposing viewpoint, as other Lizards might think less of you. Disgusting!

1085 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:51:25am

re: #1066 avanti

Thanks. I used to read that for a while, but got disgusted by some of the Jew-hating editorials. Have you ever seen stuff critical of Iran on that site?

1086 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:51:58am

re: #1044 albusteve
My pleasure. Figured I was listening to it, might as well share!

1087 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:52:09am

Oh la la!

The knives are out, having been sharpened:

Brown faces e-mail plot to oust him ...

From that link:

'With the Prime Minister still digging in his heels, rebel Labour MPs have started an e-mail campaign soliciting signatures calling on him to quit.
They believe they will have 70 to 80 backers for the no confidence motion by the end of the day and could deliver it to Downing Street as early as tonight.

If he was to admit defeat by Monday, Labour could have a new leader elected and in Number 10 by the start of July.'

If that happens, there will have to be a General election this autumn - we're not going to accept a second unelected (by us, the peasants, that is!) PM!

1088 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:52:15am

re: #1082 Killgore Trout

OMG. It's a bow! Seethe! Seethe! Tea Party!
Video: Did Brian Williams bow to Barack Obama?

A nod is not a bow.

1089 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:52:50am

Great. Just...great.

Finally get a tech out to service the heat pump for the approaching summer and the compressor has died.

Old unit, not worth putting 2K into it. New unit around 5K.

Fannntastic.

1090 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:53:07am

re: #1075 Kenneth

The waiter knew what he was saying, but he pretended not to. The French can be very picky and snobby about subtle pronunciations. The insult was intentional.

1091 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:53:15am

re: #1089 razorbacker

Great. Just...great.

Finally get a tech out to service the heat pump for the approaching summer and the compressor has died.

Old unit, not worth putting 2K into it. New unit around 5K.

Fannntastic.

STIMULUS !

1092 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:53:25am

re: #1088 redstateredneck

Yeah, this stuff is just so stupid but it's what gets conservatives fired up these days. They can't seem to get enough.

1093 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:53:35am

re: #1082 Killgore Trout

OMG. It's a bow! Seethe! Seethe! Tea Party!
Video: Did Brian Williams bow to Barack Obama?

He's looking for an M&M on the floor.

1094 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:53:53am

re: #1047 KansasMom

Was it intended as a put-down for speaking the French Canadian version of French? (that's actually pretty standard. There's a pejorative term for certain "working-class" Montreal "French" speakers -- the dialect is called "joual" -- "joual" really does sound hideous if you're accustomed to French as spoken, in say, Paris..)

1095 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:54:25am

re: #1082 Killgore Trout

OMG. It's a bow! Seethe! Seethe! Tea Party!
Video: Did Brian Williams bow to Barack Obama?

Wasn't that a nod? Damned if I can tell.

Though taking every possible opportunity to mock the press probably won't bother too many people.

1096 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:54:29am

Nancy Reagan's first words at the Reagan's statue dedication were to thank Nancy Pelosi. Oh My.

1097 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:54:38am

Morning all! Well, the NRA tried, but lost:

Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

From the article:

The unanimous three-judge panel ruled today that a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year, which recognized an individual right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment, didn’t apply to states and municipalities.

Okay, where's lawhawk? I need some expertise here.

If DC v Heller's decision defines gun ownership as an individual right under the 2nd Amendment, how could the appeals court possible rule this way? The states signed on to the US Constitution. If this ruling stands, the 2nd Amendment is effectively completely gutted.

Not good.

1098 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:54:59am

re: #1090 Kenneth

The waiter knew what he was saying, but he pretended not to. The French can be very picky and snobby about subtle pronunciations. The insult was intentional.

Indeed - but thats mainly in Paris, iirc.

People generally, waiters etc were really nice to us when we travelled through France, staying in little hotels.

1099 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:55:03am

re: #1091 SasquatchOnSteroids

STIMULUS !

I done been stimulated. What I need is a sedative.

1100 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:55:35am

re: #1096 avanti

Nancy Reagan's first words at the Reagan's statue dedication were to thank Nancy Pelosi. Oh My.

avanti .. stfu ... she was only talking about getting the event going ...

1101 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:55:49am

re: #1092 Killgore Trout

Yeah, this stuff is just so stupid but it's what gets conservatives fired up these days. They can't seem to get enough.

Not all of us.

1102 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:56:28am

re: #1099 razorbacker

I meant to write (for someone) after that.

Premature commentulation

1103 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:56:37am

re: #1082 Killgore Trout

OMG. It's a bow! Seethe! Seethe! Tea Party!
Video: Did Brian Williams bow to Barack Obama?

No bow here, nope, nothing to see, didn't happen, he's just taller, it was nothing, please move along to something else...bowing to a tyrant is no big deal anyway...blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

Explain away, rationalize, minimize, deny, deflect, all you wish...he still bowed and that is a big deal for many people.

1104 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:56:37am

re: #1088 redstateredneck

A nod is not a bow.

but a nod is a good as wink to a blind horse

1105 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:56:39am

re: #1088 redstateredneck

It looked to me as if Brian was leaning in for a good night kiss, but he pulled back when the president turned and faced him.

1106 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:56:42am

re: #1084 unrealizedviewpoint

That's something, you pull my comment yesterday out of context, add your meaning to it, insult me, and you don't even have the courage of your own convictions. You run with the mob. Your unable to hold an opposing viewpoint, as other Lizards might think less of you. Disgusting!

I see. So because I'm pro life I should be what, applauding Tillers murder? Calling for him to be prosecuted for something that where he is is NOT against the law as you were calling for?

I have the courage of my own convistions. What I also have is the inante ability to seperate my personal views from the LAW. I don;t LIKE the law, I bust my ass to get it changed by the means set out by our founding fathers. If I can NOT get it changed I abide by it anyway.

THATS OUR SYSTEM,, don;'t like it? You have one option!

1107 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:56:46am

re: #1085 Kenneth

Thanks. I used to read that for a while, but got disgusted by some of the Jew-hating editorials. Have you ever seen stuff critical of Iran on that site?

Yes, I have. BTW, by Saudi standards, that link is pretty far left.

1108 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:57:04am

re: #1066 avanti

Saudi.


"Only with honesty in promoting peace in the region will he be able to win the hearts and minds of people here. My family and I watched Obama win the presidency; he seems to be a nice person and he talks of totally different plans for peace in the region. This is a good sign and I hope that he focuses on the Palestinian issue and on human rights."

Ya gotta just love it when Saudis lecture the West about the need for honesty and respect for human rights.
*RETCH*

1109 ihateronpaul  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:57:16am

I think cutting down on wasteful defense contracts is a good way to start saving money. "No-bid contract" and "budget surplus" never appear together in the same sentence for a reason.

1110 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:57:22am

Huh, seems Americans are evenly divided over Health Care NOW and Economy NOW:

1111 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:57:26am

re: #1097 subsailor68

Morning all! Well, the NRA tried, but lost:

Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

From the article:

The unanimous three-judge panel ruled today that a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year, which recognized an individual right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment, didn’t apply to states and municipalities.

Okay, where's lawhawk? I need some expertise here.

If DC v Heller's decision defines gun ownership as an individual right under the 2nd Amendment, how could the appeals court possible rule this way? The states signed on to the US Constitution. If this ruling stands, the 2nd Amendment is effectively completely gutted.

Not good.

DC is not a State.

1112 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:57:42am

re: #1096 avanti

Nancy Reagan's first words at the Reagan's statue dedication were to thank Nancy Pelosi. Oh My.

the leftist swine can learn a lesson about graciousness from Mrs Reagan.

1113 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:58:01am

re: #1097 subsailor68

volokh.com has info. Eugene, like Glenn Reynolds, is one of those law-professor blogs.

1114 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:58:17am

At a press conference, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, "I understand that during her career, she's written hundreds and hundreds of opinions. I haven't read a single one of them, and if I'm fortunate before we end this, I won't have to read one of them. "

1115 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:58:18am

re: #1110 realwest
PIMF: LINK: [Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

1116 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:58:50am

re: #1103 Desert Dog

Explain away, rationalize, minimize, deny, deflect, all you wish...he still bowed and that is a big deal for many people.


I know. There's nothing that can be said to convince people to not embarrass themselves by getting all worked up over this. Carry on.

1117 mj  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:58:58am

Al Qaeda Says It Executed Briton

LONDON — An Al Qaeda affiliate in North Africa said on Wednesday that it had killed a Briton it abducted in Mali last January...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

1118 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:59:07am

re: #1098 yma o hyd

That has been my experience too. In this case, the insult was toward a man from Quebec. The French tend to look down on Quebeckers as uncivilized bumpkins.

1119 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:59:10am

Further to my #1087, this is what Dave Cameron said today in Parliament:

'Mr Cameron told the Commons that the spate of resignations showed Mr Brown's command over his 'dysfunctional' Government had 'simply disappeared'.

'He told us he had the right team to take the country forward, that team is now deserting him. The Government is collapsing before our eyes. Why doesn't he take the one act of authority left to him? Get down to the palace. Ask for a dissolution. Call an election,' he said.'

Yay!

(From the same link as above)

1120 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:59:10am

re: #1115 realwest

PIMF: LINK: [Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

And, the stat that really matters: 100% of Obama's want to take over and nationalize healthcare

1121 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:59:16am

re: #1104 albusteve

but a nod is a good as wink to a blind horse

Yes it is.
:-)

1122 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:59:53am

re: #1100 JacksonTn

Still, short speech and it struck me as odd. I don't like Pelosi, but Nancy seemed sincere in thanking her. I did notice the room was very quite. BTW, it was not a big deal, just struck me.

1123 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:00:07am

re: #1111 Creeping Eruption

DC is not a State.

Yeah, I get that part. However, the most important part of the ruling, if I understand it correctly, is the concept of the "individual right". Whether the case involved DC or Illinois, it seems to me that this applies. (But, hey, I've been wrong before - several times this morning in fact.)

;-)

1124 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:00:11am

re: #1105 Kenneth

It looked to me as if Brian was leaning in for a good night kiss, but he pulled back when the president turned and faced him.

LOL! Coulda been.

1125 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:00:40am

re: #1109 ihateronpaul
Well given that Obama's proposed budget now has a One Trillion, Five Hundred Billion dollar DEFICIT, why not try cutting his health care proposals - which aggregate HALF of that deficit?

1126 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:00:53am

re: #1119 yma o hyd

Interesting. Will it happen soon?

1127 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:01:19am

re: #1106 sattv4u2

I see. So because I'm pro life I should be what, applauding Tillers murder? Calling for him to be prosecuted for something that where he is is NOT against the law as you were calling for?

That's what I'm referring to. YOU DID IT AGAIN. You're outright lying. I NEVER called for prosecution of Tiller. Never. What the fuck is wrong with you? I was saying Right to Lifers would. I said it probably 5 times.

1128 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:01:33am

re: #1118 Kenneth

That has been my experience too. In this case, the insult was toward a man from Quebec. The French tend to look down on Quebeckers as uncivilized bumpkins.

Heh.
The French (Parisians, mostly) tend to look down on any stranger from any antionality as uncivilised bumpkins!

1129 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:01:43am

re: #1116 Killgore Trout

I know. There's nothing that can be said to convince people to not embarrass themselves by getting all worked up over this. Carry on.

KT ... well, one good thing comes from it ... it sure gives you something to do ...

1130 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:02:25am

re: #1112 _RememberTonyC

the leftist swine can learn a lesson about graciousness from Mrs Reagan.

She is a jewel. My wife saw her with BHO yesterday and gave he a big "Ah, she's such a sweetie." Gracious as they come.

1131 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:02:26am

Good afternoon Lizards...
Hope today finds everyone well

1132 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:02:34am

re: #1097 subsailor68

Morning all! Well, the NRA tried, but lost:

Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

From the article:

The unanimous three-judge panel ruled today that a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year, which recognized an individual right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment, didn’t apply to states and municipalities.

Okay, where's lawhawk? I need some expertise here.

If DC v Heller's decision defines gun ownership as an individual right under the 2nd Amendment, how could the appeals court possible rule this way? The states signed on to the US Constitution. If this ruling stands, the 2nd Amendment is effectively completely gutted.

Not good.

State's and Muni's cannot infringe on rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. The appeals court will get overturned. Heller confirmed all citizens have and individual right to keep and bear arms. No jurisdiction can inifringe.

1133 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:02:40am

re: #1120 Desert Dog
Uh huh, and please check out my #1125.

1134 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:02:40am

re: #1116 Killgore Trout

I know. There's nothing that can be said to convince people to not embarrass themselves by getting all worked up over this. Carry on.

Yes, it's almost as bad as posting endless anti-conservative links over and over everyday.

1135 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:04:41am

re: #857 mj

The president and the king exchanged a light embrace and kiss...

NO TONGUE!

1136 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:04:44am

re: #1126 Kenneth

Interesting. Will it happen soon?

There have been unconfirmed rumours that it might happen in October. That would give the constituencies time to sort out their fraudulent MPs and select another candidate.

With a new leader of the Labour Party, it might be September. After all, nobody is keen to have a General election during the summer holidays.

1137 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:04:55am

re: #1132 jcm

State's and Muni's cannot infringe on rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. The appeals court will get overturned. Heller confirmed all citizens have and individual right to keep and bear arms. No jurisdiction can inifringe.

Hi jcm! Thanks, that was my take on it. And I'm positive that you're right - this puppy will end up at the Supreme Court.

1138 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:05:30am

re: #1092 Killgore Trout

Yeah, this stuff is just so stupid but it's what gets conservatives fired up these days. They can't seem to get enough.

Unintentional bow-like movement of upper body and head. /

1139 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:05:31am

re: #1131 HoosierHoops

Good afternoon Lizards...
Hope today finds everyone well

How are you, {HH}?

1140 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:05:51am

re: #1131 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops - just wanted you to know that prayers are still going up.
I hope you're doing as well as can be expected my friend.

1141 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:06:23am

re: #1123 subsailor68

Yeah, I get that part. However, the most important part of the ruling, if I understand it correctly, is the concept of the "individual right". Whether the case involved DC or Illinois, it seems to me that this applies. (But, hey, I've been wrong before - several times this morning in fact.)

;-)

Footnote 23 of Heller:

Our later decisions in Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252, 265, 6 S.Ct. 580, 29 L.Ed. 615 (1886) and Miller v. Texas, 153 U.S. 535, 538, 14 S.Ct. 874, 38 L.Ed. 812 (1894), reaffirmed that the Second Amendment applies only to the Federal Government.

1142 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:06:25am

Ayman al-Zawahri says...

"...The White House said that Obama will send a message from Egypt to the Islamic world, but they forgot that his messages have already been received by the Islamic world when he visited the Wailing Wall, put on his head the Jew's cap and prayed their prayers, though he claims to be Christian."

OH NOS! IZ OBAMA A SEKRET JUICE?

1143 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:06:39am

some work requires not using a computer ... sigh ... gotta go ...

have a great day lizards ...

daydreaming of crawfish ... Suck the Head ...

1144 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:07:32am

re: #1137 subsailor68

Hi jcm! Thanks, that was my take on it. And I'm positive that you're right - this puppy will end up at the Supreme Court.

When they (SCOTUS) ruled didn't they answer it. They don't take it up again just because a lower court offered a differing opinion, do they. How's it get enforced?

1145 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:07:57am

Tupac Lives!

I knew they couldn't kill him.

1146 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:08:01am

re: #1137 subsailor68
Good morning...afternoon sub! Well IF this puppy goes to SCOTUS let's hope it gets there before Sotomayor does.

1147 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:08:03am

re: #1140 realwest

Good morning Hoops - just wanted you to know that prayers are still going up.
I hope you're doing as well as can be expected my friend.

Thanks Real..We buried him this morning...I'm doing ok now..It was real hard foor the last couple days..But I feel closure today...I will never forget him

1148 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:08:19am

re: #880 Occasional Reader

LAWSUIT! SEXUAL HARRASSMENT! KA-CHING!$$$

My boss's boss's boss doesn't count, right? She's a woman. /:D

1149 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:08:30am

re: #1139 yma o hyd

How are you, {HH}?

Hey Beautiful! Hope today finds you well

1150 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:09:11am

re: #1147 HoosierHoops

Thanks Real..We buried him this morning...I'm doing ok now..It was real hard foor the last couple days..But I feel closure today...I will never forget him

So sorry for your loss but I know that you will honor his memory. God bless you.

1151 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:09:37am

re: #1141 Creeping Eruption But who is responsible for Washington, D.C. - the federales, no?

1152 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:09:45am

re: #1141 Creeping Eruption

Hmm...interesting footnote, thanks! It still leads me to wonder - even more so after seeing that - what the use of defining an individual right under the Constitution is if it allows the entire Amendment to be nullified piecemeal by state or local governments.

Guess SCOTUS will have to be a bit more specific next time?

1153 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:10:14am

President Obama Announces New Government Motors Vehicle

Their ONE AND ONLY product is sure to impress you.

1154 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:10:43am

re: #1127 unrealizedviewpoint

That's what I'm referring to. YOU DID IT AGAIN. You're outright lying. I NEVER called for prosecution of Tiller. Never. What the fuck is wrong with you? I was saying Right to Lifers would. I said it probably 5 times.

not knowing what he was on trial for
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

for the umteenth time looking for more prosecution
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

just about crossing the Stinky line
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

and I was the unreasonable one !

1155 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:10:47am

re: #1146 realwest

Good morning...afternoon sub! Well IF this puppy goes to SCOTUS let's hope it gets there before Sotomayor does.

Hi realwest! Hope you and your mom are doing great today! LOL! Yeah, from your lips to God's ear on that!

1156 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:10:56am

re: #1132 jcm

State's and Muni's cannot infringe on rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. The appeals court will get overturned. Heller confirmed all citizens have and individual right to keep and bear arms. No jurisdiction can inifringe.

What?!

Easterbrook, joined by Circuit Court Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer, said they, too, were bound to follow the precedent of a higher court, the U.S. Supreme Court, in its ruling on the Second Amendment not applying to states.

1157 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:10:58am

re: #1151 realwest

But who is responsible for Washington, D.C. - the federales, no?

Yes, but that is why the 7th Cir. might not follow it as applied to Chicago in this latest NRA case.

1158 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:11:06am

This is a bit odd.

Bonnie Erbe of US News calls out Playboy for the grudge-f*** article, but goes on to say "I also want to note that at least one woman on the list is so venom-spewing, she unfortunately invites venom to be shot back at her: Michelle Malkin."

I guess the other 9 don't deserve it, but Michelle does?

Any other interpretations?

1159 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:11:33am

from Drudge:
Brian Williams (NBC News) bowing to Øbama

I don't see much to it, but...

1160 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:11:43am

re: #1152 subsailor68

Hmm...interesting footnote, thanks! It still leads me to wonder - even more so after seeing that - what the use of defining an individual right under the Constitution is if it allows the entire Amendment to be nullified piecemeal by state or local governments.

Guess SCOTUS will have to be a bit more specific next time?

That, is an entirely different question. Will ponder over lunch.

BBL

1161 doubter4444  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:11:50am

Hold fast to dreams
For if dreams die
Life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly.

— Langston Hughes

That was the first poem my daughter learned in kindergarden this year.

1162 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:12:06am

re: #954 Spenser (with an S)

Re: this "No true Scotsman" argument, I've been doing a lot of thinking on this. When what you're saying is a definitional thing, can we honestly say it? For instance; If the local director of MADD was arrested for DUI, could you not say they were not a MADD by definition? If the local founder of a vegan group was caught eating a juicy hamburger, could you not say they were not a "true" vegan? I am pro-life and I don't claim this psycho as one of my own by definition.

I've thought for a long time, that the "No True Scottsman fallacy" is quite a broad brush. Just because someone says he is this or that doesn't make it so. Jesus associated with some theives and prostitutes, but it didn't make him either. An association isn't enough to fit a definition of belonging to a group. There are/should be certain characteristics that fit a definition of the group. And there are some groups where we cannot tell if an individual is a member ... i.e. Christians. We know what some call themselves, but if their thoughts and actions do not fit with Jesus' and the apostles descriptions, they may not actually be... in which case "No True Scottsman" as a fallacy doesn't apply.

1163 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:12:10am

re: #1138 Cattt

Unintentional bow-like movement of upper body and head. /

a tic, perhaps. Maybe Mr Williams has a medical condition of some sort ! ///

1164 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:12:59am

re: #1160 Creeping Eruption

That, is an entirely different question. Will ponder over lunch.

BBL

Cool! I really look forward to your ideas on this. I'll keep an eye out for ya.

1165 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:13:03am

re: #1097 subsailor68

Sub, I read a bit about the Sotamayor ruling. It was a 3 judge ruling, her and two conservatives on the court ruled that Heller did not cover all the states. The legal arguments are at this link, just scroll down past the discussions of the Fox crap.

Heller.

1166 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:13:03am

re: #1149 HoosierHoops

Hey Beautiful! Hope today finds you well

I'm fine - just read your reply to rw.
Prayers for you, my friend - I was so sorry to read about this.

1167 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:14:04am

re: #1116 Killgore Trout

I know. There's nothing that can be said to convince people to not embarrass themselves by getting all worked up over this. Carry on.

Thank you so much. Please bend over and accept a "Shit-Disturber Medal" in recognition of your unceasing efforts to expose our countless foibles and weaknesses.

1168 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:14:14am

re: #1165 avanti

Sub, I read a bit about the Sotamayor ruling. It was a 3 judge ruling, her and two conservatives on the court ruled that Heller did not cover all the states. The legal arguments are at this link, just scroll down past the discussions of the Fox crap.

Heller.

Hi avanti! Thanks for the link. I'll take a look.

1169 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:14:36am

re: #1144 unrealizedviewpoint

When they (SCOTUS) ruled didn't they answer it. They don't take it up again just because a lower court offered a differing opinion, do they. How's it get enforced?

The footnote on it being a Federal ruling is the loophole the Appeals court used. It will go to SCOTUS to be more specific.

Either SCOTUS rules, or the local legislatures rewrite local laws.

1170 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:15:24am

re: #1039 redstateredneck

Barney Bush actually bit a reporter.

I can't blame him. Can you imagine the stress the Bushes must have felt around the press the last couple years? A dog would have felt that, and tried to protect his people in some way.

And I'm sure everyone in Washington regularly wishes they could bite a reporter.

1171 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:15:33am

re: #1159 unrealizedviewpoint

from Drudge:
Brian Williams (NBC News) bowing to Øbama

I don't see much to it, but...


Of course he bowed. He is a jack ass.

1172 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:15:41am

And to really ram it home to Gord:

'Time to cut him loose': Even the Guardian turns against Brown

The Guardian is the most LLL paper in the UK, and has always been a staunch supporter of NuLab, from the start.

Speak of rats and sinking ships ...

1173 CIA Reject  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:16:18am

re: #1162 eschew_obfuscation

But you must admit that hurling accusations of "No True Scotsman ! !" is a dandy way to defend a strawman...

1174 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:16:37am

re: #1171 Nevergiveup

Of course he bowed. He is a jack ass.

You'll have to be more specific. There are 2 people in the video!
//

1175 legalpad  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:16:58am

re: #1097 subsailor68

That must mean that the states can outlaw free speech and religion.

1176 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:17:08am

re: #1156 razorbacker

What?!

Easterbrook, joined by Circuit Court Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer, said they, too, were bound to follow the precedent of a higher court, the U.S. Supreme Court, in its ruling on the Second Amendment not applying to states.

From my link for subsailor:

Heller, a case involving a challenge to the District of Columbia's general prohibition on handguns, does not invalidate this longstanding principle. See Heller, 128 S. Ct. at 2813 n.23 (noting that the case did not present the question of whether the Second Amendment applies to the states). And to the extent that Heller might be read to question the continuing validity of this principle, we "must follow Presser" because "[w]here, as here, a Supreme Court precedent 'has direct application in a case, yet appears to rest on reasons rejected in some other line of decisions, the Court of Appeals should follow the case which directly controls, leaving to the Supreme Court the prerogative of overruling its own decisions.'" Bach, 408 F.3d at 86 (quoting Rodriguez de Quijas v. Shearson/Am. Express, Inc., 490 U.S. 477, 484 (1989)) (alteration marks omitted); see also State Oil Co. v. Khan, 522 U.S. 3, 20 (1997). Thus, N.Y. Penal Law §§ 265.00 through 265.02 do not violate the Second Amendment.

1177 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:17:22am

re: #1156 razorbacker

What?!

Easterbrook, joined by Circuit Court Judges Richard Posner and William Bauer, said they, too, were bound to follow the precedent of a higher court, the U.S. Supreme Court, in its ruling on the Second Amendment not applying to states.

They're smoking emanations of penumbra's.

Local jurisdictions cannot take away Constitutionally guaranteed rights.

Frankly they should be removed from the bench for missing something so basic.

1178 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:17:28am

The Brazilian Supreme Court just suspended that order to give that NJ man his kid. What is with these countries?

1179 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:17:35am

re: #1172 yma o hyd

And to really ram it home to Gord:

'Time to cut him loose': Even the Guardian turns against Brown

The Guardian is the most LLL paper in the UK, and has always been a staunch supporter of NuLab, from the start.

Speak of rats and sinking ships ...

He deserves to go..BTW..I have a moat to be cleaned around my castle..Got any suggestions? :)

1180 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:18:16am

re: #1163 sattv4u2

a tic, perhaps. Maybe Mr Williams has a medical condition of some sort ! ///

Yeah! Like Doctor Strangelove's uncontrollable mechanical hand! /

1181 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:18:17am

re: #1146 realwest

Good morning...afternoon sub! Well IF this puppy goes to SCOTUS let's hope it gets there before Sotomayor does.

I don't see why. 6-4 the first time around, and from what I gather this ruling isn't going to have a leg to stand on. If anything, the majority may grow if the SC decides to rule, simply as a slap at lower courts who don't seem to understand how things work.

1182 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:18:22am

re: #1154 sattv4u2

not knowing what he was on trial for
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

for the umteenth time looking for more prosecution
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

just about crossing the Stinky line
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

and I was the unreasonable one !

I said in #715:

I don't spend my life following Tiller's work or trials.


and I don't. Very few people do. I'm not an activist.

I said in 712:

I believe if he lived further prosecution was coming.


I said in 724:

That wasn't my point at all, just the opposite. I believe if he lived further prosecution was coming.


You're outright lying. I NEVER called for prosecution of Tiller. Never. What the fuck is wrong with you? I was saying Right to Lifers would have if he lived. I said it probably 5 times

1183 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:18:24am

re: #1173 CIA Reject

But you must admit that hurling accusations of "No True Scotsman ! !" is a dandy way to defend a strawman...

Heh... indeed!

1184 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:18:44am

re: #1175 legalpad

That must mean that the states can outlaw free speech and religion.

What a great thought. I'm not a lawyer (which is why I always defer to the lizards who are), but sure - if the precedents on the 2nd Amendment (i.e., that it doesn't apply to states or munis) stand, how could it be argued that those precedents don't apply to the other amendments as well?

1185 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:20:16am

Hey look! You can email or call in your questions to Bill Ayers. It's in the sidebar.

"Dear Mr. Ayers:

How do you sleep at night? Why do you feel that other people's lives are less valuable than yours? Did the complete failure of communism in Eastern Europe to provide a good life for the common man even register on your brain? What does it feel like to go through life as a complete turd?"

1186 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:20:34am

So the President is trying to win the hearts and minds of the Arab world? Hum. Just win the freak en War!

1187 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:21:31am

re: #1185 emmmieG

Is that an illustration of "brain freeze" in your avatar? It's cute!

1188 CIA Reject  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:21:57am

re: #1186 Nevergiveup

So the President is trying to win the hearts and minds of the Arab world? Hum. Just win the freak en War!

"Get them by the b***s and their hearts and minds will follow." - I think General Westmoreland said that ...

1189 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:22:12am

re: #1172 yma o hyd

And to really ram it home to Gord:

'Time to cut him loose': Even the Guardian turns against Brown

The Guardian is the most LLL paper in the UK, and has always been a staunch supporter of NuLab, from the start.

Speak of rats and sinking ships ...

What is going on over there? I guess they caught too many MP's with their hands in the cookie jars, eh? That is unreal. Do you think this will cost Brown his job?

1190 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:22:31am

re: #1188 CIA Reject

"Get them by the b***s and their hearts and minds will follow." - I think General Westmoreland said that ...

I thought it was Nixon's guy Halderman?

1191 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:22:34am

re: #1182 unrealizedviewpoint

Okay. i'll play your semantics game ( I NEVER called for prosecution of Tiller. although it was infered by you many times that it was impending)

If he were alive today, would you back a prosecution of Dr Tiller and on what charge(s)?

AND ,,, looks like I was far from the only one having problems with your "arguments"

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

1192 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:22:34am

re: #1179 HoosierHoops

He deserves to go..BTW..I have a moat to be cleaned around my castle..Got any suggestions? :)

Heh - I'm not an MP, what do I know!

Mind - the moat-cleaning and such stuff is bad, but its nothing in comparison to what the NuLab people did.
Like - several times declaring their official second home - which should be in London, for Parliament - as their first, thus paying off their mortgages with our taxes, and then selling them at profit, which they kept without paying taxes on the profit.

Thats NuLab ... and Gord did nothing about them.

Dave Cameron, who had two of those in his party, just chucked them out.

1193 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:23:28am

re: #1078 VegasRick

He should have just started speaking LOUDER! Works everytime!
/

I used to have a job at a chatchka shop at Pier 39. (Popular touristy destination in SF). I learned that it is a universal belief that everyone understands your native tongue as long as you speak loudly enough, and accentuate your dipthongs.

This actually worked for the people speaking, say, Spanish and Italian. Eventually, I would get it. It does not work so well if you are speaking, say, Japanese.

I also enjoyed the elderly couple who spoke German to one another and Spanish to me. Not totally sure why, but we eventually completed the sale of the Garfield mugs, and they went away.

1194 CIA Reject  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:23:39am

re: #1190 Nevergiveup

I thought it was Nixon's guy Halderman?

Hmm... now I have to go look it up.

1195 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:23:41am

re: #1147 HoosierHoops

Thanks Real..We buried him this morning...I'm doing ok now..It was real hard foor the last couple days..But I feel closure today...I will never forget him

{Hoopster}

1196 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:23:44am

re: #1186 Nevergiveup

So the President is trying to win the hearts and minds of the Arab world? Hum. Just win the freak en War!

I don;'t want their hearts and minds
I just want their oil at under $60 a barrel

1197 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:24:05am

re: #1190 Nevergiveup

I thought it was Nixon's guy Halderman?

No. It was I.

1198 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:24:12am

I can't help you sattv4u2 if you are unable to make the leap of understanding that I was referring to others "The Right to Lifer's" working to have the man charged again had he lived. How you assume I would, or that in anyway I was calling for it is far out there. Your either a fool, didn't follow the thread, or just being an ass.

1199 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:24:38am

re: #1187 wrenchwench

Is that an illustration of "brain freeze" in your avatar? It's cute!

Better yet, it's my older sister. Mwahahah. (I'm the curly-haired one.)

1200 Buck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:24:52am

re: #88 Fenway_Nation

Jeez- Central Manitoba Rail has had the same SD40-2 for sale for awhile now.

It's probably in good working order, but if you're in the market for a locomotive with the horsepower and tractive effort of an SD40-2, you'd probably want to buy more than one at a time. In which case, Burlington Northern Santa Fe, Canadian Pacific, Union Pacific, Canadian National, Kansas City Southern or the other class 1 railway operators would be more than willing to part with some of their now idle SD40-2s.

Well, if anyone needs help procuring this gem, please let me know. It is just down the street from me... I would be happy to help.

1201 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:24:59am

Does anyone know much about the salvage industry? I mean salvaging ships at sea.

1202 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:25:01am

re: #1181 SixDegrees

I don't see why. 6-4 the first time around, and from what I gather this ruling isn't going to have a leg to stand on. If anything, the majority may grow if the SC decides to rule, simply as a slap at lower courts who don't seem to understand how things work.

Here's my problem with that. Posner and Bauer do know how things work. Those aren't a couple of 9th circus clowns there.

1203 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:25:55am

re: #1201 Dianna

I know a little but. Very little. What's your question?

1204 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:26:03am

re: #1194 CIA Reject

Hmm... now I have to go look it up.

It was either him or Erhlichman?

1205 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:26:10am

re: #1199 emmmieG

Better yet, it's my older sister. Mwahahah. (I'm the curly-haired one.)

LOL Cute as hell emmie

1206 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:26:31am

re: #1157 Creeping Eruption Huh? What about that footnote in Heller about Presser? Applies to only Feds?
We really do need the SCOTUS to come out and say what really ought to be - "All of the protections and rights granted to citizens of the US under the Constitution apply not only to the Federal Government, but to all levels of goverments, State, County, municipal and unincorporated villages. NOW Stop bothering us with this silly shit!"
:)

1207 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:26:33am
1208 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:26:34am

Wacha ya talkin' 'bout Willis?

And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslims Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.

We are Mr. President?

I guess we know the results fo the ACORN census of the 57 States.

1209 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:26:41am

re: #1189 Desert Dog

What is going on over there? I guess they caught too many MP's with their hands in the cookie jars, eh? That is unreal. Do you think this will cost Brown his job?

The extent of it is unreal, the files were leaked to the Telegraph, who has been publishing stuff for the last four weeks.
The sheer greed of especially the NuLab people is unreal - and yes, it definitely will cost Gord his job. either by next week, when his party makes him resign, or, if he hangs on, at the General Election.
Labour was down to 18% at a Sunday poll somewhere - we're waiting for theoutcome of tomorrow's elections to the EU Parliament and to one third of the local councils.
Everybody predicts Labour to be annihilated.

1210 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:26:42am

re: #1197 MandyManners

No. It was I.

Well yeah women in general, but that's a whole other topic?
/ducking

1211 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:27:35am

re: #1198 unrealizedviewpoint

I can't help you sattv4u2 if you are unable to make the leap of understanding that I was referring to others "The Right to Lifer's" working to have the man charged again had he lived. How you assume I would, or that in anyway I was calling for it is far out there. Your either a fool, didn't follow the thread, or just being an ass.

Could be!

So answer the direct question posed in 1191

1212 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:27:36am

re: #1090 Kenneth

The waiter knew what he was saying, but he pretended not to. The French can be very picky and snobby about subtle pronunciations. The insult was intentional.

I was once asked in Calais if I was Belgian. (I was born in Los Angeles, raised in Northern California.) I have no idea if that was a compliment to my lousy high school French, or a mortal insult.

1213 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:27:44am

re: #1191 sattv4u2

AND ,,, looks like I was far from the only one having problems with your "arguments"

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Let's address the last one first. You love to grab out of context. Here's the same impertinent prick recognizing he was wrong, half apologizing. Like you, he couldn't own up to it. He almost did though.close.[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

1214 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:28:24am

Ominous sounds coming from the kitchen - methinks Madame wants her dinner!

BBIAB!

1215 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:29:05am

re: #1159 unrealizedviewpoint Hey, that was just Brian being, uh, Brian!
(if he'd bowed any lower we might be able to say he was asking Obama if Obama wanted a shoe shine!).

1216 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:29:15am

re: #1209 yma o hyd

I am guessing there will be some new rules written when Parliament meets again...expenses and whatnot will no longer be kept secret...Some of those charges are so amazing...moat cleaning, etc...wow

1217 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:29:32am

re: #1209 yma o hyd

The extent of it is unreal, the files were leaked to the Telegraph, who has been publishing stuff for the last four weeks.
The sheer greed of especially the NuLab people is unreal - and yes, it definitely will cost Gord his job. either by next week, when his party makes him resign, or, if he hangs on, at the General Election.
Labour was down to 18% at a Sunday poll somewhere - we're waiting for theoutcome of tomorrow's elections to the EU Parliament and to one third of the local councils.
Everybody predicts Labour to be annihilated.

My favorite is either the woman who charged her husband's porn movies to expense, or the (male) MP who charged tampons.

Pride vs. Greed, greed wins.

1218 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:30:04am

re: #1201 Dianna

Does anyone know much about the salvage industry? I mean salvaging ships at sea.

Hi Dianna! Here's link to the Wiki article on the subject. (As with all Wiki, I suppose you take some of it with a grain of salt, but this does seem pretty straightforward.)

Marine Salvage

1219 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:31:37am

re: #1216 Desert Dog

I am guessing there will be some new rules written when Parliament meets again...expenses and whatnot will no longer be kept secret...Some of those charges are so amazing...moat cleaning, etc...wow


Under what category in the Yellow Pages would that be?

1220 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:32:37am

re: #1219 sattv4u2

Under what category in the Yellow Pages would that be?

BIG MOATS ARE RIPPING US OFF!

1221 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:32:41am

re: #1162 eschew_obfuscation As I scribbled somewhere upthread the "No True Scotsman" is itself a fallacy IF you believe that in fact there are certain qualities that define a True Scotsman.
If, OTOH, you don't really think much of anything MEANS much of anything, then I suppose it's a fun fallacy to play with.

1222 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:33:12am

re: #1203 Killgore Trout

I know a little but. Very little. What's your question?

How does a firm find out about a ship needing to be salvaged? And is there a bidding process?

1223 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:33:30am

re: #1220 HoosierHoops

BIG MOATS ARE RIPPING US OFF!

I told ya there is a moat in the new Yankee Stadium

1224 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:34:06am

re: #1216 Desert Dog

re: #1219 sattv4u2

Under what category in the Yellow Pages would that be?

Pool Maintenance?
Scuba Diving?
Aquariums ? (considering no true moat would be complete without an guard alligator)

1225 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:34:10am

re: #1218 subsailor68

Hi Dianna! Here's link to the Wiki article on the subject. (As with all Wiki, I suppose you take some of it with a grain of salt, but this does seem pretty straightforward.)

Marine Salvage

I read it, and wasn't sure of its accuracy. Many years ago, I had dinner with a couple who were in the business, and I'm not sure if I remember the conversation clearly.

1226 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:34:21am

re: #1191 sattv4u2

Okay. i'll play your semantics game ( I NEVER called for prosecution of Tiller. although it was infered by you many times that it was impending)

If he were alive today, would you back a prosecution of Dr Tiller and on what charge(s)?

AND ,,, looks like I was far from the only one having problems with your "arguments"

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

If Tiller were alive today, and they had a case against him, I would support the prosecution. I don't know what the impending charges were. I only know I heard charges pending. And being Pro-life, I'd hope they could prevent this man from performing additional late term abortions. I'm Pro-life. That what Pro-Life means, being against abortion.

My God man. I'm ProLife.

1227 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:34:25am

re: #1221 realwest

As I scribbled somewhere upthread the "No True Scotsman" is itself a fallacy IF you believe that in fact there are certain qualities that define a True Scotsman.
If, OTOH, you don't really think much of anything MEANS much of anything, then I suppose it's a fun fallacy to play with.

When it comes to true Scotsman I'm sticking with YMA..I'll bet she knows a couple...*wink*

1228 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:34:50am

re: #1222 Dianna

How does a firm find out about a ship needing to be salvaged? And is there a bidding process?

Either that or you spend a Billion Dollars to build a ship like the Glomar Explorer like Howard Hughs did and go out and try to salvage a Soviet Sub off the bottom of the sea?

1229 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:35:12am

re: #1222 Dianna

How does a firm find out about a ship needing to be salvaged? And is there a bidding process?

Classified ads in a marine periodicals?

1230 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:35:50am

*sigh*

1231 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:35:50am

Cute girl with tight skirt on fox now

1232 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:36:51am

re: #1231 Nevergiveup

Cute girl with tight skirt on fox now

Burn Notice marathon on.. I love that show!

1233 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:37:40am

re: #1229 MandyManners

Classified ads in a marine periodicals?

That was my initial thought, then I thought perhaps shippers might put something out on the web, these days?

1234 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:37:42am

re: #1232 HoosierHoops

Burn Notice marathon on.. I love that show!

Season premiere tomorrow night.

1235 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:37:43am

re: #1220 HoosierHoops

BIG MOATS ARE RIPPING US OFF!

Anyone ever tell you you got a big moat?
(jes' kidding)

1236 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:38:05am

re: #1225 Dianna

I read it, and wasn't sure of its accuracy. Many years ago, I had dinner with a couple who were in the business, and I'm not sure if I remember the conversation clearly.

Yeah, I wonder about Wiki's accuracy as well. There is a link at the bottom that goes here:

Salvage Law and the Law of Finds.

The salvage links are about halfway down the page. Some of those may be more reliable?

1237 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:38:12am

re: #1223 Nevergiveup

I told ya there is a moat in the new Yankee Stadium

re: #1226 unrealizedviewpoint

My question ,,,If he were alive today, would you back a prosecution of Dr Tiller and on what charge(s)?

Your answer,, you would support charges, but have no idea what those charges are.

dangerous, at best. Blind support as long as he's charged with SOMETHING because you are, after all, pro life!

1238 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:38:50am

re: #1232 HoosierHoops

Burn Notice marathon on.. I love that show!

Are you sure we're not related? We have SO much in common

1239 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:39:16am

re: #1181 SixDegrees
Yeah, but she was a chief judge on one of those lower courts that "if the SC decides to rule, simply as a slap at lower courts who don't seem to understand how things work." and - since it would be early - very early in her tenure as a Justice of SCOTUS she may almost reflexively agree with the lower court. See also my #1206.

1240 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:39:17am

re: #1232 HoosierHoops

Burn Notice marathon on.. I love that show!

Thanks for the tip!

1241 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:39:33am

re: #1222 Dianna


How does a firm find out about a ship needing to be salvaged? And is there a bidding process?

Hmmm... I'd guess that most wrecks are common knowledge. Ships are expensive so they keep close track of them. I would assume there's a bidding process. There are rules about wrecks that are over a certain age. The original owner's claim to the ship expires after a certain period. After that the first person to find it can file a claim for it.

1242 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:39:34am

re: #1234 SixDegrees

Season premiere tomorrow night.

TIVO is set...NBA finals are on at the same time...

1243 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:39:40am

re: #1233 Dianna

That was my initial thought, then I thought perhaps shippers might put something out on the web, these days?

Have you Googled?

1244 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:40:18am

re: #1236 subsailor68

Yeah, I wonder about Wiki's accuracy as well. There is a link at the bottom that goes here:

Salvage Law and the Law of Finds.

The salvage links are about halfway down the page. Some of those may be more reliable?

Thank you - probably. I'm looking for a bit of guidance before plunging in.

1245 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:40:33am

re: #1221 realwest

As I scribbled somewhere upthread the "No True Scotsman" is itself a fallacy IF you believe that in fact there are certain qualities that define a True Scotsman.
If, OTOH, you don't really think much of anything MEANS much of anything, then I suppose it's a fun fallacy to play with.

Sorry, I didn't see your post...agreed!

1246 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:41:09am

re: #1212 SanFranciscoZionist

I was once asked in Calais if I was Belgian. (I was born in Los Angeles, raised in Northern California.) I have no idea if that was a compliment to my lousy high school French, or a mortal insult.

Perhaps your high school teacher was Belgian?

My high school German teacher had a German-speaking grandmother ... when he went to northern Germany for graduate studies, he was treated rudely in the market. The second or third trip, an old woan asked if he was an American. When he answered "yes", the woman snorted "Good! You sound like one of those lousy southerners*!"

* as in Bavaria, as it turns out. Grossmutter was from Bavaria, and the accent had leaked into his conversational German.

1247 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:41:12am

K Kiddies ,, I have to play chauffer to my 14 year old and 5 of his friends
Thank GOD I have a BIG F'n SUV !

1248 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:42:21am

re: #1215 realwest

Hey, that was just Brian being, uh, Brian!
(if he'd bowed any lower we might be able to say he was asking Obama if Obama wanted a shoe shine!).

I actually think it's a stretch to call this a real bow. It wasn't really an Øbama type bow, like Øbama did for the King. Williams & Øbama kind of shared this bow. That maybe says more to me then a one-sided bow. Maybe not though...

1249 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:42:25am

Bin Laden Tells America to Be Ready for Revenge Against U.S. Policy

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

So tomorrow in Egypt, it's a steel cage wrassling match to the death: Bin Laden vs Obama for the Muslim Championship of the World!

1250 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:42:38am

re: #1210 Nevergiveup

Well yeah women in general, but that's a whole other topic?
/ducking

No need to duck. Women already know that.

1251 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:42:45am

re: #1243 MandyManners

Have you Googled?

Yes. The result page looks like this: Marine Salvage.

And there are related searches - for marine salvage firms, auctions, etc. I wanted to get some guidance before I started searching through the links. More, if I'm going to call some poor firm and ask them writerly questions, I have to know what sort of questions to ask.

1252 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:43:46am
1253 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:43:59am

re: #1240 MandyManners

Thanks for the tip!

Spys..Cool story lines, things that blow up and beautiful women..
What's not to like?
Hi Mandy!

1254 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:44:03am

re: #1250 Cattt

No need to duck. Women already know that.

And you think we men don't?

1255 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:44:10am

re: #1249 Nevergiveup

Bin Laden Tells America to Be Ready for Revenge Against U.S. Policy

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

So tomorrow in Egypt, it's a steel cage wrassling match to the death: Bin Laden vs Obama for the Muslim Championship of the World!

Regardless of how low your esteem may be of President Obama, you'd have to admit that he probably could take a dead man in a steel cage match.

1256 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:44:29am

I'm out of smokes. bbl

1257 enoughalready  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:44:41am

re: #1212 SanFranciscoZionist

That would be akin to asking you if you were stupid but not as bad as calling you a spanish cow.

1258 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:45:00am

re: #1253 HoosierHoops

Spys..Cool story lines, things that blow up and beautiful women..
What's not to like?
Hi Mandy!

And Bruce Campbell.

1259 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:45:01am

re: #1255 razorbacker

Regardless of how low your esteem may be of President Obama, you'd have to admit that he probably could take a dead man in a steel cage match.

Well maybe, but the odor alone could kill ya?

1260 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:45:27am

A really cool video...
Shipbreakers in Gadani beach, Pakistan

1261 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:45:46am

re: #1249 Nevergiveup

Bin Laden Tells America to Be Ready for Revenge Against U.S. Policy

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

So tomorrow in Egypt, it's a steel cage wrassling match to the death: Bin Laden vs Obama for the Muslim Championship of the World!

LETS GET READY TO RUUMMMBBBAAALLL!

1262 CIA Reject  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:46:01am

re: #1259 Nevergiveup

Well maybe, but the odor alone could kill ya?

...and that was before he died!

1263 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:46:02am

re: #1255 razorbacker

Regardless of how low your esteem may be of President Obama, you'd have to admit that he probably could take a dead man in a steel cage match.

My thought exactly. Wrasslin' a corpse would just be...wrong.

1264 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:46:06am

re: #1199 emmmieG

Better yet, it's my older sister. Mwahahah. (I'm the curly-haired one.)


Ah a two fisted popsickle eater, eh? LOVE the Avatar!

1265 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:46:15am

re: #1237 sattv4u2

re: #1226 unrealizedviewpoint

My question ,,,If he were alive today, would you back a prosecution of Dr Tiller and on what charge(s)?

Your answer,, you would support charges, but have no idea what those charges are.

dangerous, at best. Blind support as long as he's charged with SOMETHING because you are, after all, pro life!


If one is Pro-Life and doesn't support the prosecution of a person who is performing late term abortions, then that person simply cannot be Pro-Life. You are not Pro-life obviously, or don't know what it means to be Pro-Life.

1266 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:47:17am

re: #1219 sattv4u2

Under what category in the Yellow Pages would that be?

Well, I usually have my serfs do that, and I let them keep a few more scraps of food from the land they work for me. But, if you cannot get your serfs to do a proper job, I hear you can go to Home Depot and recruit some workers that will.

1267 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:47:46am

i just heard rush mention a crazy hag in jacksonville, fla. she had a conniption fit in mcdonalds. they were out of diet coke, so she started screaming and throwing
french fires at the counter man and then she pepper sprayed him and called 911.
LOL

1268 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:47:55am

Obama is a chameleon.
A chamelon is a lizard.
Obama is a lizard.
YIKES!

1269 enoughalready  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:48:05am

re: #1261 HoosierHoops

LETS GET READY TO RUUMMMBBBAAALLL!

In the red corner a corpse hooked up to a dialysis machine!

1270 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:48:48am

re: #1260 Killgore Trout

A really cool video...
Shipbreakers in Gadani beach, Pakistan



I wonder if the cops find the stripped tanker in a bad neighborhood the next day?

/

1271 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:48:59am

re: #1207 Iron Fist

There is a split at the appellate level. The 9th Circuit has just ruled (last month or so) that the 2nd does apply to the States through the 14th, and they wrote quite a disertation about why.

Sontomyer won't change the Makeup of the Court on this issue. I'm, more concerned in your thinking. Why are the Left so anti-civil rights in this area? The real reason has to be that you don't trust your law abiding frellows with arms while you don't much care about the people who are willing to break the law, but I'm interested in how you justify it to yourselves.

Iron, I did not intend to imply that I'm against civil rights in this area. I was just replying to a question about the basis of the 3 judge ruling from the court Sotamayor sat on. I'm pro second amendment and will accept the courts ruling on against restrictions of that right.
I'm not a attorney, but it appears Heller was not clear on it applying beyond the DC case, the conservatives on the Soyamayor court ruled it did not with her, so it's apparently unsettled law.

1272 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:49:10am

i guess she didn't want reg. coke because of the fat tax.

1273 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:49:26am

18:08 Number of Turks making Mecca pilgrimage quintuples since rise of Islamists

Hum?

1274 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:49:26am

re: #1269 enoughalready

In the red corner a corpse hooked up to a dialysis machine!

Me thinks ozero would be in the red corner.

1275 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:49:36am

re: #1267 nyc redneck

i just heard rush mention a crazy hag in jacksonville, fla. she had a conniption fit in mcdonalds. they were out of diet coke, so she started screaming and throwing
french fires at the counter man and then she pepper sprayed him and called 911.
LOL

Finally a legitimate 911 call from a fast food joint.

1276 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:49:39am

re: #1259 Nevergiveup

Well maybe, but the odor alone could kill ya?

No, no, no, no. He's clean and articulate. Shame on you.

1277 enoughalready  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:49:45am

re: #1265 unrealizedviewpoint

If one is Pro-Life and doesn't support the prosecution of a person who is performing late term abortions, then that person simply cannot be Pro-Life. You are not Pro-life obviously, or don't know what it means to be Pro-Life.

Lovely. I will have to write that particular nugget of excellent argumentation down on a piece of paper. And file it. Somewhere.

1278 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:50:06am

re: #1241 Killgore Trout

Hmmm... I'd guess that most wrecks are common knowledge. Ships are expensive so they keep close track of them. I would assume there's a bidding process. There are rules about wrecks that are over a certain age. The original owner's claim to the ship expires after a certain period. After that the first person to find it can file a claim for it.

after the insurance pays off I think it's finders keepers...yes/no?

1279 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:50:21am

re: #1209 yma o hyd
Hey {yma} apologies for my ignorance, but is "Everybody predicts Labour to be annihilated." a good thing (I mean if Labour does get anihilated)?!

1280 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:50:53am

re: #1270 OldLineTexan

I wonder if the cops find the stripped tanker in a bad neighborhood the next day?

/

Reminds me when I traded in a 1978 Chevy Nova in 1991 (car took a quart of oil to get on the highway), a few months later, I got a letter from the Pawtucket, RI police department telling me it had been abandoned there. I explained that I traded it in; the woman asked for me to send them the paperwork, and sounded like this had happened before. I sent it in, and that was it.
Nowadays, scrap metal is worth more.

1281 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:51:02am

re: #1273 Nevergiveup

18:08 Number of Turks making Mecca pilgrimage quintuples since rise of Islamists

Hum?

It is a requirement for a devout Muslim male.

Perhaps devotion is on the rise.

Or, to make an unwarranted guess, perhaps there is a rush to get "hajj" credentials before the dung impacts whatever they use for fans there.

/

1282 callahan23  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:51:12am

re: #1246 OldLineTexan

Perhaps your high school teacher was Belgian?

My high school German teacher had a German-speaking grandmother ... when he went to northern Germany for graduate studies, he was treated rudely in the market. The second or third trip, an old woan asked if he was an American. When he answered "yes", the woman snorted "Good! You sound like one of those lousy southerners*!"

* as in Bavaria, as it turns out. Grossmutter was from Bavaria, and the accent had leaked into his conversational German.

Not that bad anymore. Still the slightest difference in dialect will be noted. But speaking an accent has become fashionable since about ten years.
My dialect is from around Bremen and I live in the south-west. I am simply not able to reproduce this local dialect, it would be a fraud. But the locals often take note of the fact that I am 'not from here'.
Drive-by comment of mine.
I am off for dinner. BBL

1283 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:51:24am

re: #1278 albusteve

after the insurance pays off I think it's finders keepers...yes/no?

I remember being told that frequently insurers fund a salvage operation to recover some of their costs. I'm not sure that's true, or true any more, or if I'm misremembering.

1284 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:51:35am

re: #1276 razorbacker

No, no, no, no. He's clean and articulate. Shame on you.

Well I was talking about the dead guy. And if the dead guy can move at all, remember Obama smokes and will get winded real fast.

1285 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:52:11am

re: #1265 unrealizedviewpoint

If one is Pro-Life and doesn't support the prosecution of a person who is performing late term abortions, then that person simply cannot be Pro-Life. You are not Pro-life obviously, or don't know what it means to be Pro-Life.

Yeah, 'cause making a fool of yourself by filing frivolous charges and lawsuits that don't even affect your target's schedule or pocketbook in any significant way is a surefire way to win supporters and squander their resources.

I hear the Taliban is hard at work attempting to impose a theocracy on Pakistan. You should join them; you'd fit right in.

1286 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:52:30am

re: #1277 enoughalready

Lovely. I will have to write that particular nugget of excellent argumentation down on a piece of paper. And file it. Somewhere.

You may not find that comment inspiring, but, the guy who claims he's Pro-Life has no clue as to what it means, might think on it. But, based upon his responses, I doubt it.

1287 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:52:49am

re: #1278 albusteve

after the insurance pays off I think it's finders keepers...yes/no?

The insurance company would then own the wreck.

1288 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:52:54am

re: #1282 callahan23

I am no expert, having never been to Germany OR having enough German skills left to even attempt a market trip.

But it was his favorite story.

1289 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:52:56am

New thread!

1290 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:53:11am

re: #1227 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops, I am an American, but come from Scot's heritage! Member of a Clan and all!

1291 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:53:48am

re: #1285 SixDegrees

Yeah, 'cause making a fool of yourself by filing frivolous charges and lawsuits that don't even affect your target's schedule or pocketbook in any significant way is a surefire way to win supporters and squander their resources.

I hear the Taliban is hard at work attempting to impose a theocracy on Pakistan. You should join them; you'd fit right in.

I'm not the one making charges, calling for charges or anything, I was merely saying what the opposition had planned. Why is this so hard.

1292 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:54:16am

re: #1275 unrealizedviewpoint

Finally a legitimate 911 call from a fast food joint.

ha ha ha ha ha
seriously, what is going wrong in these fast food joints? the workers need to be armed for their own protection. there was a beating delivered by and a 911 call from some irate woman because she couldn't get her some grease nuggets.
slop like that.

1293 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:54:20am

re: #1267 nyc redneck

i just heard rush mention a crazy hag in jacksonville, fla. she had a conniption fit in mcdonalds. they were out of diet coke, so she started screaming and throwing
french fires at the counter man and then she pepper sprayed him and called 911.
LOL

Diet Coke is right, he violated her rights!
//

1294 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:54:24am

re: #1239 realwest

Yeah, but she was a chief judge on one of those lower courts that "if the SC decides to rule, simply as a slap at lower courts who don't seem to understand how things work." and - since it would be early - very early in her tenure as a Justice of SCOTUS she may almost reflexively agree with the lower court. See also my #1206.

Since she was involved in the earlier ruling, she'll recuse herself if the case comes before the Supremes and she's a Justice there.

1295 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:54:56am

re: #1280 Kosh's Shadow

Reminds me when I traded in a 1978 Chevy Nova in 1991 (car took a quart of oil to get on the highway), a few months later, I got a letter from the Pawtucket, RI police department telling me it had been abandoned there. I explained that I traded it in; the woman asked for me to send them the paperwork, and sounded like this had happened before. I sent it in, and that was it.
Nowadays, scrap metal is worth more.

My daughter traded in a car at a Toyota dealership and had to deflect a similar abandoned car issue from the next owner (who had apparently been busted on the freeway, followed by the Houston PD forgetting to have the car towed).

1296 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:55:13am

re: #1283 Dianna

iirc there was a Prime Minister of Canada who was heavily involved in the shipping salvage business...made a fortune...(was it Paul Martin?)...also implicated in an almost scandal of some sort, was forced to quit the business.

1297 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:56:17am

re: #1290 realwest

Hey Hoops, I am an American, but come from Scot's heritage! Member of a Clan and all!

Really..But you're not near as cute as our YMA...LOL

1298 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:57:20am

re: #1278 albusteve

after the insurance pays off I think it's finders keepers...yes/no?

I know that we're talking about new wrecks, but I seem to recall some argument about just who owns salvaged treasure from sunken galleons off the Americas.

1299 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:18am

re: #1241 Killgore Trout

Hmmm... I'd guess that most wrecks are common knowledge. Ships are expensive so they keep close track of them. I would assume there's a bidding process. There are rules about wrecks that are over a certain age. The original owner's claim to the ship expires after a certain period. After that the first person to find it can file a claim for it.

When I was stationed in GITMO back in the day, the Russians used to pull barge trains through the bay to the Communist side. One day the last barge in line broke loose and ran aground. As the middle of the bay is an international shipping lane, I foolishly thought under salvage law I could go over, tie my boat up and if I could tow it to the marina it would belong to me.

Port Ops set me straight.

1300 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:01:03am

re: #1291 unrealizedviewpoint

I'm not the one making charges, calling for charges or anything, I was merely saying what the opposition had planned. Why is this so hard.

You just got done saying

I'm Pro-life.

followed by

If one is Pro-Life and doesn't support the prosecution of a person who is performing late term abortions, then that person simply cannot be Pro-Life.

Do I really need to point out that you support such prosecution as a result of your own statements? Well, yeah, I probably do; theocracies appeal to those looking to construct smaller, simpler worlds to live in because reality itself is just too complicated for their small minds to comprehend. But having done so, there's little else to say. Go stick your foot in a bucket of ice water; it'll help the swelling around the entry point.

1301 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:01:09am

re: #1267 nyc redneck
Damn {nyc redneck} that Diet Coke must be some powerful stuff to be jonesing for! LOL!

1302 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:06:32am

re: #1300 SixDegrees


Being Pro-Life means I believe the fetus is a human being, a person, and I don't wish it to be killed. Why vilify someone for holding such a belief?
BTW - 50% of my fellow American's believe as I do.

1303 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:09:46am

re: #1302 unrealizedviewpoint

...and 74% believe late term abortion is decidedly wrong and should not be done.

1304 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:12:48am
1305 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:17:57am
1306 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:02:10am

re: #1296 J.S.

You're thinking of Paul Martin, Jr. and Canada Steamship Lines. Now there's an interesting story!

CSL was bought by Power Corp and Martin was appointed to the Board of Directors, by top Power Corp director, Maurice Strong (remember that name). He eventually became CEO. In 1981, Martin and partners bought CSL from Power Corp. He made his millions on this venture.

Jump ahead a few years to 1993: Paul Martin is Finance Minister in Jean Chretien's gov't. Chretien's son-in-law just so happens to be Andre Desmarais who is also a director of Power Corp and the son of the founder of Power Corp, Paul Desmarais.

In the 1990's Power Corp took a controlling interest in Total Fina ELF, the French oil conglomerate which became involved in a political corruption scandal in France. In the late 1990's, Total Fina ELF signed a multi-billion dollar contract with Saddam Hussein to develop Iraqi oil project. The only problem is the UN had to drop it's sanction on Iraq to allow the contract to go ahead. Lobbying at the UN began to change to "smart" sanctions which would "help the starving Iraq people" and incidentally, allow Total Fina ELF to work in Iraq.

Then 9-11 happened and all talk of removing Iraq from UN sanctions was dropped.

In 2002, the Chretien gov't decided not to join the US in Operation Iraqi Freedom. The US invaded anyway, and Total Fina ELF lost the contract when Saddam was toppled.

Investigators started looking into the Iraqi Oil for Food scandal. The complex bribery and kick-back scheme involved highly placed UN officials, Russian, British and French politicians and various oil companies including Total Fina ELF. In the aftermath of the biggest corruption scandal in world history, Koffi Annan appoints a special assistant to fix the corruption problem at the UN: Maurice Strong.

1307 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:04:40am

re: #1302 unrealizedviewpoint

Thoughts from an ex-fetus

Some put the question in terms of a woman's right to control her own body. That would be valid enough in the realm of smoking, diet, liposuction or sex -- but abortion? Abortion means controlling someone else's body. Incidentally, I realize that as a man I have no authority to speak on the matter, but I'm not speaking as a man. I wouldn't dare. I'm speaking strictly as an ex-fetus.

1308 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:10:35am

Congressional report calls for investigation of Maurice Strong's role in Oil-for-Food scandal
By Judi McLeod
Friday, December 9, 2005

A draft congressional report has called for the investigation of Canadian Maurice Strong's role in the United Nations Oil-for-Food program.

Page 35 of the 54-page report, written by Republicans on a House International Relations subcommittee states: "Maurice Strong should be examined for his role in the OFFP."

Strong is a long-time advisor to both UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan and to Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin.

On Sept. 7, 2005 it was revealed by the Independent Inquiry into the Oil-for-Food scandal that Strong had received a $1-million cheque from North Korean lobbyist Tongsun Park for the acquisition of shares in Cordex Petroleum Inc.–a Maurice Strong company.

Cordex Petroleum was also on the listing of assets of Paul Martin in his declaration of assets while he was Minister of Finance.

The $1-million, invested in the now defunct Cordex by Tongsun Park, originated from the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq.

1309 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:11:43am
1310 ihateronpaul  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:35:24am

[Link: thirdbranch.crooksandliars.com...]

Newt backpedals on calling Sotomayer racist. Surprise surprise. Looks like this guy is probably going to attempt a run for president in 2012. I can't wait for the attack ads pointing out how prosecuted clinton for oral sex marriage indiscretions when he committed that same act while married to his first wife. Ugh.

1311 ihateronpaul  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:36:55am

re: #1307 Kenneth

Thoughts from an ex-fetus

How is an abortion any different from using contraception. Both explicitly permit a child from being born. Honestly, I really don't see the difference. Guess I am just a godless secular humanist hell bent on destroying america.

1312 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:45:05am

re: #1311 ihateronpaul

A condom or the pill does not prevent a child from being born, it prevents a child from being conceived or created in the first place. An abortion kills a fetus. Now do you see?

If you are having trouble comprehending that difference, read it over again a few times. It might sink in.

"Guess I am just a godless secular humanist hell bent on destroying america."

Whether that was either neurotic projection or simply juvenile snark, I could not care less.

1313 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:46:44am

re: #1311 ihateronpaul

Both explicitly permit a child from being born.

What the hell are you trying to say there? Fool.

1314 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:49:24am

Please don't permit yourselves to bring this conversation down to the sublevel of the other blogs.

1315 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:58:13am

re: #1314 unrealizedviewpoint

What was that thing anyway?

1316 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:07:52pm

re: #1315 Kenneth

what thing? huh?

1317 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:08:18pm

re: #1316 unrealizedviewpoint

oh, oh, oh... I get it. duh. :)

1318 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:20:40pm

re: #1317 unrealizedviewpoint

Check his avatar:

"The Creature From His Parent's Basement"

I appreciate your well articulated arguments on this very contentious topic, including yesterday when you took a lot of flack.

1319 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:29:35pm

re: #1318 Kenneth

Check his avatar:

"The Creature From His Parent's Basement"

I appreciate your well articulated arguments on this very contentious topic, including yesterday when you took a lot of flack.

Seen him before. Just a silly kid. Really! That's his picture, no doubt. Kids are drawn to Paul. He probably was a devotee of Paul's. Probably was drawn here at some point, then saw the criticism of Paul, changed sides, but can't change.

1320 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:32:56pm

re: #1318 Kenneth

I appreciate your well articulated arguments on this very contentious topic, including yesterday when you took a lot of flack.


Thanks!
It's a tough subject for thinking folks. It's overly emotional because it limits someones rights, the child, or the mother.

1321 Karridine  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:40:55pm

"O my God, O my God!
This is a broken-winged bird,
and his flight is very slow.

Assist him by Thy Holy Spirit
so that he may fly to the apex of prosperity
and salvation..."

the Servant of the Glory of God


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