Dead Man Won’t Stop Talking

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Yet another “Osama bin Laden” audiotape appears, ranting about Barack Obama.

Why doesn’t anyone ever ask: if this is really bin Laden, why doesn’t he ever appear on video like every other Al Qaeda freakazoid?

A new audio tape from Osama bin Laden criticizes President Barack Obama for planting seeds of “hatred and vengeance toward Americans” and warns of “new long wars.”

The tape, aired on Arabic news network al Jazeera Wednesday, blasts the U.S. president for his role in Pakistan’s military operation against Taliban forces in the Swat Valley. The message came as Mr. Obama touched down in Saudi Arabia on the first leg of a Mideast trip to shore up diplomatic relations in the region.

U.S. intelligence officials confirmed the authenticity of tape but said “there’s no reason at this point to believe that any specific or credible threat is contained” in the message, reports CBS News White House correspondent Peter Maer.

“There has never been a fake bin Laden tape,” a U.S. counterterrorism official told CBS News. “In the past, he has timed the release of the messages to major events. So it’s unsurprising that he chose this particular week.”

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242 comments
1 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:54:02am

Is there an islamic Rich Little?

2 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:54:10am

Is it only me or does anyone else think Bin Laden shaved looks kinda like Randy Johnson?

3 zombie  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:54:26am

He's dead, Jim.

4 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:54:34am

For the record, Charles, I happen to agree with you. I haven't believed one of these tapes for quite some time.

5 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:54:38am

if he were alive, it seems like someone would have ratted him out by now...he's worth alot of money to somebody

6 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:55:10am

Maybe he could get a spot on The View.

7 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:55:11am

I'd love to video tape the seances.

8 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:55:37am

OTOH there is no proof he is dead...

9 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:55:39am

Hi there...it's me...honest.

10 zombie  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:56:08am

re: #1 NJDhockeyfan

Is there an islamic Rich Little?

Achmed's Dead Terrorist Impersonation Service

We do them all!

Special on bin Ladens this week -- two for $59.95!

11 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:56:10am

why doesn’t he ever appear on video like every other Al Qaeda freakazoid?

Either dead or so wounded he's uglier than a goat.

But it shows how backward Al Qaeda is. If they had the latest Hollywood technology, they could show him dancing around and shooting Americans with his AK-47, even if he's long since rotted away at the bottom of a cave.

12 saberry0530  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:56:48am

FUCK OBL!

13 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:56:55am

re: #8 albusteve

OTOH there is no proof he is dead...

... and no proof he's alive. For one thing, his Netflix account has been dormant for a while.

/

14 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:57:10am

I pray that the security is flawless on O's trip.

15 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:57:32am
Bin Laden accuses Mr. Obama of ordering Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari to "prevent the people of Swat from implementing the Shari’a law by fighting and killing them through bombings and destruction. This has led one million Muslims, elderly people, women and children, to flee their homes and villages and live in tents after they’d been living with dignity in their homes.


Funny, I thought they were leaving Swat to get away from the Taliban's Sharia!

16 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:57:35am

"More long wars"? They're not "wars" anymore. Now they're Overseas Contingency Operations. Didn't he get the memo?

17 adragonknowsbest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:57:36am

“In the past, he has timed the release of the messages to major events. So it’s unsurprising that he chose this particular week.”

I liked Osama's Cinqo de Mayo video best when he had on the sombrero and a Dos Equis. Stay thirsty my friends.

18 Baier  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:10am

/ More proof Obama is the messiah - he can bring people back from the dead.

19 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:22am

re: #11 Kosh's Shadow

why doesn’t he ever appear on video like every other Al Qaeda freakazoid?

Either dead or so wounded he's uglier than a goat.

Hasn't he always looked that way?

20 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:25am

re: #13 OldLineTexan

... and no proof he's alive. For one thing, his Netflix account has been dormant for a while.

/

And there is no record of him staying at a Holiday Inn for quite a while.

21 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:28am

re: #11 Kosh's Shadow

why doesn’t he ever appear on video like every other Al Qaeda freakazoid?

Either dead or so wounded he's uglier than a goat.

But it shows how backward Al Qaeda is. If they had the latest Hollywood technology, they could show him dancing around and shooting Americans with his AK-47, even if he's long since rotted away at the bottom of a cave.


But he IS uglier than a goat...just sayin'

22 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:34am

not to worry. o will apologize.

23 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:37am

re: #13 OldLineTexan

... and no proof he's alive. For one thing, his Netflix account has been dormant for a while.

/

he's in Limbo

24 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:42am

re: #12 saberry0530

No thank you!

/It doesn't sound kosher to me.

25 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:47am

re: #18 Baier

/ More proof Obama is the messiah - he can bring people back from the dead.

Now, now ... this bit of underdone potato used to visit BOOOOOOOSH, too.

/

26 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:51am

He doesn't want to be seen with Jeff Dunham's hand up his ass.

27 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:55am

That's a pretty weird illustration there.

28 zombie  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:58:59am

re: #11 Kosh's Shadow

If they had the latest Hollywood technology, they could show him dancing around and shooting Americans with his AK-47

Pixar could make a pretty penny moonlighting as producers of terror videos featuring dead people.

29 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:59:07am

gets me thinking he made tapes for every contingency possible.

"Olympics 2010"

"Election 2012"

"Halley's Comet 2061"

30 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:59:22am

He's just restin'! He's pining for the fjords!

31 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:59:29am
if this is really bin Laden, why doesn’t he ever appear on video like every other Al Qaeda freakazoid?

Both sides maybe have decided it's best he be kept propped up like Bernie?

32 pat  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:59:51am

Mighty bold talk for a dead man.

33 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:59:56am

re: #29 SasquatchOnSteroids

gets me thinking he made tapes for every contingency possible.

"Olympics 2010"

"Election 2012"

"Halley's Comet 2061"

"American Idol season finale"

34 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:00:29am

Dead men can vote, so why can't they may threatening tapes? They don't even have to leave the graveyard for that.

35 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:00:41am

re: #32 pat

Mighty bold talk for a dead man.

"Whatta ya gonna do, KILL ME?"

muwhahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

36 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:00:55am

re: #32 pat

Mighty bold talk for a dead man.

I believe he could be alive...stranger things have come to light

37 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:00:59am

re: #28 zombie

Pixar could make a pretty penny moonlighting as producers of terror videos featuring dead people.

Okay, now WHY did the infamous quote from Sixth Sense start running through my head when you said that?

38 poteen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:01:20am

From CBS article;
I say the free men who carried out the attacks of 9/11 did not taste the bitterness of being thrown out of their homes and their land made to live in tents and beg for food. Those 19 only heard that such suffering has been inflicted upon their brethren in Palestine, through American weapons and Zionist hands. They thus left their schools and universities and seized the first opportunity to support the oppressed over there [and] to punish the oppressors in America. So imagine what would they have done if they had witnessed such agony and distress themselves?"

" They're ALL dead Jim. " And many more.

39 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:01:48am

re: #35 OldLineTexan

"Whatta ya gonna do, KILL ME?"

muwhahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

40 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:01:51am

You would think the CIA would figure this out. Not one single video or personal appearance or verifiable photo of the guy in the last 5 years or so. Maybe that is a clue?

41 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:02:04am

And in other news, Franco is still dead.

bin Laden speeches are recruitment tools, so having a dead guy deliver them is not an impediment to the message in the minds of the Jihadis.

42 Baier  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:02:06am

re: #25 OldLineTexan

Now, now ... this bit of underdone potato used to visit BOOOOOOOSH, too.

/

I hope in the next video of OBL he is wearing a sheet with holes cut out for eyes, comme Casper.
"This is OOOOOOOsamahhh Bin Laaaaadin- Ooooooo!"

43 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:02:25am
Why doesn’t anyone ever ask: if this is really bin Laden, why doesn’t he ever appear on video like every other Al Qaeda freakazoid?

Maybe it's like alien contacts? They seem to have dropped off something fierce since the advent of camera-phones.

I'm just sayin', is all.

44 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:02:33am

re: #39 SasquatchOnSteroids

"If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

Osama has the power of the FARSI.

/yes, I know it's not correct. Pun value only.

45 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:03:00am

re: #8 albusteve

OTOH there is no proof he is dead...

Weekend at osami's.

46 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:03:16am

The dead guy would be thrilled to know we're now a Muslim country.

47 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:03:16am

re: #40 JohnnyReb

You would think the CIA would figure this out. Not one single video or personal appearance or verifiable photo of the guy in the last 5 years or so. Maybe that is a clue?

Special Agent Kobayashi is working this angle.

48 saberry0530  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:03:41am

re: #40 JohnnyReb

You would think the CIA would figure this out. Not one single video or personal appearance or verifiable photo of the guy in the last 5 years or so. Maybe that is a clue?

Probably ran out of Grecian Formula 16!

/

49 KenJen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:04:17am

If someone finds his remains do they still get the 25 million dollar reward?

50 adragonknowsbest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:04:42am

"According to the New York Daily News, Geraldo said he is now carrying a gun, and he will personally shoot Osama bin Laden if he finds him. If Osama also has a gun, this could work out okay." —Jay Leno

51 Baier  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:04:43am

re: #49 KenJen

If someone finds his remains do they still get the 25 million dollar reward?

"Dead or Alive" they said.

52 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:04:44am

re: #40 JohnnyReb

You would think the CIA would figure this out. Not one single video or personal appearance or verifiable photo of the guy in the last 5 years or so. Maybe that is a clue?

They know he's dead.

53 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:04:49am

I want to see his derth certifikak

54 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:05:04am

Maybe he's like Rasputin in that (historically incorrect) cartoon Anastasia a few years back. I can't remember the exact reason, but Rasputin became some kind of animated corpse, falling apart in a comically cute way.

I kind of like that idea for OBL.

55 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:05:04am
Why doesn’t anyone ever ask: if this is really bin Laden, why doesn’t he ever appear on video like every other Al Qaeda freakazoid?

A question I've been asking every since Tora Bora. Binny hasn't put in a credible appearance since, despite the enormous propaganda value a simple picture of him holding yesterday's newspaper would yield.

Instead, we get the al Quaeda version of Rich Little on crappy audio tapes.

56 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:05:15am

re: #49 KenJen

If someone finds his remains do they still get the 25 million dollar reward?

Dead or alive.

57 jorline  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:05:22am

Osama " Francisco Franco" bin Laden

I think I smell a SNL skit here.

58 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:05:25am

Fox just reporting that al-Qaeda's terrorists are being encouraged to work with white supremacists to attack the POTUS with anthrax smuggled in from Mexico.

59 Baier  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:05:34am

re: #53 albusteve

I want to see his derth certifikak

/He died on a Cruise ship missile

60 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:05:52am

re: #52 Killgore Trout

They know he's dead.

So why, pray tell, would they persist in holding up a fiction of pretending he is still alive?

61 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:05:54am

re: #52 Killgore Trout

They know he's dead.

how do you know that they know?....all the circumstantial conjecture proves nothing....maybe the CIA is covering for him for some reason

62 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:06:44am

re: #57 jorline

Osama " Francisco Franco" bin Laden

I think I smell a SNL skit here.

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, LET THE BOY RELEASE HIS TAPES !

~Sandler, Farley

63 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:06:57am

re: #17 adragonknowsbest

“In the past, he has timed the release of the messages to major events. So it’s unsurprising that he chose this particular week.”

I liked Osama's Cinqo de Mayo video best when he had on the sombrero and a Dos Equis. Stay thirsty my friends.

Speaking of that, is the actor in those commercials Da Juice?

/jonathan goldsmith?

64 itellu3times  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:06:57am

Even a dead man shouldn't talk that way about the caliph.

65 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:07:07am

re: #55 SixDegrees

A question I've been asking every since Tora Bora. Binny hasn't put in a credible appearance since, despite the enormous propaganda value a simple picture of him holding yesterday's newspaper would yield.

Instead, we get the al Quaeda version of Rich Little on crappy audio tapes.

If he were in fact alive he would be doing this on a regular basis. As a recruiting tool he is worth about 5,000 new dudes for each appearance.

66 jvic  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:07:35am

Presumably the technology exists to voice-match the current tapes to the old recordings of Bin Laden (assuming there are some that can be taken as genuine). For its own purposes, the government may be giving disinformation about the authenticity.

I don't know whether reliable voice-recognition technology is available to the public. If it is, you'd think that the MSM would have used it.

67 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:07:55am

re: #55 SixDegrees

A question I've been asking every since Tora Bora. Binny hasn't put in a credible appearance since, despite the enormous propaganda value a simple picture of him holding yesterday's newspaper would yield.

Instead, we get the al Quaeda version of Rich Little on crappy audio tapes.


I think it's mikey moore with a fake accent

68 itellu3times  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:07:57am

re: #52 Killgore Trout

They know he's dead.

They like to pretend.

Don't we all?

69 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:08:05am

re: #61 albusteve

how do you know that they know?....all the circumstantial conjecture proves nothing....maybe the CIA is covering for him for some reason

Wanna take a bet that a mention of RP or tea parties or storm front or other such comes tumbling out as to the reason, even if only in part?

70 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:08:12am

re: #60 FurryOldGuyJeans

So why, pray tell, would they persist in holding up a fiction of pretending he is still alive?

I wonder if there's some counter-terrorism value in pretending to the world like he's alive. All of a sudden, a bunch of terrorist cells light up with communications to the effect of, "Heh heh, stupid infidels can't even tell we're faking it. They'll never know what hit them."

/It's a thought

71 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:08:25am

re: #60 FurryOldGuyJeans

So why, pray tell, would they persist in holding up a fiction of pretending he is still alive?


Can't be the old meme that the evil Boooosh is making them do it. That is so yesterday.

72 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:08:41am

re: #53 albusteve

I want to see his derth certifikak


lol!
Undoubtedly, something eated it.......

73 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:09:45am

re: #72 VioletTiger

lol!
Undoubtedly, something eated it.......

I don't think there is a Lolgoat.

74 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:09:49am

re: #58 avanti

Fox just reporting that al-Qaeda's terrorists are being encouraged to work with white supremacists to attack the POTUS with anthrax smuggled in from Mexico.

TV or print?

Such strange bedfellows, that I wonder if Fox really has this right or if we'll see a correction. Talk about taking the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" to its utmost extreme.

75 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:10:06am

I agree Charles - before Tora Bora, this guy's mug was all over the place on Video Tape. Seriously, it seemed like every other day there was a new bin Laden Video tape.
Since Tora Bora (where I do believe, as George W. Bush put it) I think he's in a cave with no exits or entrances left anymore.
His ego was TOOOO LARGE to keep his face off video tape UNLESS he's in such terrible shape that simply looking at him would dispirit Al-Q and I still think he's D-E-A-D, Dead!

76 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:10:10am

re: #20 Spare O'Lake

And there is no record of him staying at a Holiday Inn for quite a while.

Bush 43 checked him into the "W."

77 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:10:56am

re: #40 JohnnyReb

You would think the CIA would figure this out. Not one single video or personal appearance or verifiable photo of the guy in the last 5 years or so. Maybe that is a clue?

All the CIA can do is make assessments of likelihood. Theses are never zero; there is always some small chance that you don't have all the information. Now, consider you're in charge of assessing whether Binny is still alive or not. If you come out in favor of him being alive, and you turn out to be wrong, you're praised for being cautious. If you come down on the other side - he's dead - and he suddenly pops out from behind a rock somewhere, you are totally screwed six ways from Sunday. It's a situation where the penalties for being wrong are extremely lopsided, and people understandably err on the more comfortable side.

Until someone walks in, like Peachy Carnehan, and drops Binny's mummified head on your desk, you're going to give much more support to any information even faintly suggesting he's alive than you are to the otherwise overwhelming evidence that he's a stain on a rock somewhere in Tora Bora.

78 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:11:20am

re: #58 avanti

Fox just reporting that al-Qaeda's terrorists are being encouraged to work with white supremacists to attack the POTUS with anthrax smuggled in from Mexico.

What?! That's like weird conspiracy chatter. Or something someone would say satirically.

79 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:11:24am

re: #75 realwest

Some B-52 crew deserves the credit but they will never know, nor will we.

80 adragonknowsbest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:11:32am

re: #60 FurryOldGuyJeans

Read 1984. Maybe Emmanuel Goldstein the archenemy of Big Brother and the subject of those 2 minute hate sessions shares some parallels with Osama.

Not really sure. Just a thought.

81 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:11:35am

Even if this is really him, it just shows how pathetic he is now....hiding in a cave, moving around in fear for his life every second of everyday....all praise the mighty Jihadi Warrior! Or, FOAD OBL

82 poteen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:11:39am

If the reports of bin Laden's health troubles are true and if he is still alive, it's unlikely he's in a cave in Pakistan.
More likely hidden by a sympathetic group or gov't with access to advanced medicine.

83 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:11:53am

re: #69 FurryOldGuyJeans

Wanna take a bet that a mention of RP or tea parties or storm front or other such comes tumbling out as to the reason, even if only in part?

I'm telling you guys he's alive and I'm gonna keep telling you that until you step away from the abyss of denial

84 Kragar  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:11:56am

re: #78 Dianna

What?! That's like weird conspiracy chatter. Or something someone would say satirically.

Sounds like a wacky new sitcom idea.

85 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:12:06am

re: #60 FurryOldGuyJeans

So why, pray tell, would they persist in holding up a fiction of pretending he is still alive?

To play "Where's Osama"?

86 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:12:08am

re: #75 realwest

I agree. I mean how long could he have lasted without the constant dialysis? From what I recall he was in bad shape medically when he went into hiding.

87 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:12:23am

re: #2 Nevergiveup

Is it only me or does anyone else think Bin Laden shaved looks kinda like Randy Johnson?

Bin Laden looks eerily like one of my uncles.

88 adragonknowsbest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:12:32am

re: #63 Ward Cleaver

I must admit I fell for the clever advertsing. I am now the most interesting man in Connecticut. Stay thirsty my friends!

89 lostlakehiker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:12:38am

There are clues in any video. This means that the calculation al Qaeda must make before releasing a video is complicated. True, you get more propaganda bang with video than with just audio. On the other hand, you may be telling the U.S. more than you meant to tell.

Perhaps they have made a strategic decision to not release OBL video. The mere fact that he doesn't appear on video cannot be taken as proof that he is dead.

If he still lives, his precautions have kept him alive, but they've also halfway muzzled him. All audio bark and no video bite, if he's alive he's not making much hay, and the sun never shines on him.

History records any number of stories of warlords defeated and hounded off the map; they're as good as dead when things get to that point.

90 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:12:49am

re: #83 albusteve

I'm telling you guys he's alive and I'm gonna keep telling you that until you step away from the abyss of denial

ROTFLMHWA.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning. ;)

91 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:13:05am

re: #84 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sounds like a wacky new sitcom idea.

I had a sudden image of two gibbering, frothing, fanatics exchanging foaming, incoherent rants.

With subtitles.

92 dhg4  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:13:45am

So the CT expert claims that the tape's authentic. That means that ... it's really a tape.

Question: does the voice on the tape mention Presidents Obama and Zardari by name?

93 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:13:50am

re: #60 FurryOldGuyJeans

So why, pray tell, would they persist in holding up a fiction of pretending he is still alive?

See above; it isn't fiction or non-fiction, it's simply the way assessments of such things work. There's no downside to writing up an assessment that supports Binny being alive even if it turns out to be wrong; writing one up that claims he's dead that turns out to be wrong is a career-ender. See "erring on the side of caution."

94 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:14:10am

re: #3 zombie

He's dead, Jim.

"You get his satellite phone, I'll get the Swiss bank account numbers."

95 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:14:14am

re: #58 avanti Well then they're shit out of luck for two reasons: a) as Killgore has advised us, repeatedly, the folks at Stormfront can't stand the "R**heads" and b) Obama's on his way to Islamia and Europe.
Of course, if "he" was talking about Jihadist and Euro-Fascist like BNP or Vlaams Belang, then maybe there's something to it.
But I sincerely doubt it - ALL of it.

96 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:14:25am

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

Bin Laden looks eerily like one of my uncles.

I guess it's that semitic look?

97 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:15:17am

re: #86 JohnnyReb

I agree. I mean how long could he have lasted without the constant dialysis? From what I recall he was in bad shape medically when he went into hiding.

why couldn't he be in Orlando, or anywhere else for that matter?

98 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:15:19am

Ipecac

99 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:15:53am

re: #86 JohnnyReb

I agree. I mean how long could he have lasted without the constant dialysis? From what I recall he was in bad shape medically when he went into hiding.

Um. The dialysis business is a myth. Try reading Minter's Disinformation.

100 Kragar  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:15:54am

re: #91 Dianna

I had a sudden image of two gibbering, frothing, fanatics exchanging foaming, incoherent rants.

With subtitles.

"Mohammed, I'm home!"
"I'm in the kitchen, working on some milk!"
"NOT AGAIN! Last time you worked on milk, you damn near blew the whole house up!"

/queue laugh track

101 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:16:16am

re: #86 JohnnyReb

I agree. I mean how long could he have lasted without the constant dialysis? From what I recall he was in bad shape medically when he went into hiding.

I don't think this was ever proven. As I recall, a physician came forward peddling this story and claiming he had treated Binny, but he wasn't considered particularly credible.

102 Cheesehead  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:16:33am

I think he's working on virgin #4; didn't have alot of luck with 1 through 3.
/

103 kansas  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:16:34am

The Dreaded Pirate Roberts perhaps?

104 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:16:51am

I dunno. When I saw the last Bin Laden videotape, and he was holding up a newspaper that read "Dewey Wins!"...well, I was a little suspicious I tell ya.

105 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:17:02am

re: #93 SixDegrees

See above; it isn't fiction or non-fiction, it's simply the way assessments of such things work. There's no downside to writing up an assessment that supports Binny being alive even if it turns out to be wrong; writing one up that claims he's dead that turns out to be wrong is a career-ender. See "erring on the side of caution."

The person I was replying to made an assertion of certainty, no erring whatsoever. He stated he personally knew the CIA is lying about bin Laden.

106 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:17:44am

re: #79 Ojoe
Yeah, either some B-52 crew or some American Rangers but you're right, as is re: #77 SixDegrees

107 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:18:08am

re: #33 Mad Al-Jaffee

"American Idol season finale"

Tough call for him. Does he vote for the gay guy or the Christian worship leader? Plus, that "No Boundaries" song was crap.

108 AuntAcid  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:18:09am

I have it on good authority that Osama has a little realestate office in Punta Gorda FL.

109 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:18:14am

I'll bet he's in Little Rock working with Tupac.

Now if the LRPD can make Tupac talk.....

110 poteen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:18:38am

re: #102 Cheesehead

I think he's working on Zawahiri. Lose the glasses and Z looks like a goat.

111 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:19:28am

re: #100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Mohammed, I'm home!"
"I'm in the kitchen, working on some milk!"
"NOT AGAIN! Last time you worked on milk, you damn near blew the whole house up!"

/queue laugh track

Sascha Baron Cohen as OBL?

112 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:19:28am

I've said it before: your typical episode of Ghost Hunters has more believable recordings from the dead than any Bin Laden tape.

113 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:19:35am

re: #105 FurryOldGuyJeans

The person I was replying to made an assertion of certainty, no erring whatsoever. He stated he personally knew the CIA is lying about bin Laden.

If someone has made a definitive statement to that effect, I, too, would be fascinated to see a reference to the source.

114 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:20:12am

re: #108 AuntAcid

I have it on good authority that Osama has a little realestate office in Punta Gorda FL.

Chicago voter rolls. We should check those.

/

115 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:20:31am

re: #91 Dianna

I had a sudden image of two gibbering, frothing, fanatics exchanging foaming, incoherent rants.

With subtitles.

Fox News?

116 calcajun  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:21:45am

With all the re-dubbing and mixing of all the old OBL audio tapes that Al Qeda has to do to make "new" OBL messages, the man's voice has got to sound like Stephen Hawking by now.

117 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:22:05am

re: #74 Pianobuff

TV or print?

Such strange bedfellows, that I wonder if Fox really has this right or if we'll see a correction. Talk about taking the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" to its utmost extreme.

TV, waiting for a net link.

118 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:22:08am

re: #114 SasquatchOnSteroids

Chicago voter rolls. We should check those.

/

Also need to check underneath the I-5 overpasses in Seattle and a couple of empty lots.

119 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:22:56am

re: #115 doppelganglander

Fox News?

The O'Sama Factor.

120 calcajun  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:22:59am

Doesn't OBL have a little BBQ joint in Memphis these days?

121 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:23:11am

re: #89 lostlakehiker
Well "The mere fact that he doesn't appear on video cannot be taken as proof that he is dead." would be true but for the fact, as I stated in my #75 above, that he was a hound dog for video coverage before Tora Bora.
Besides, if he did the Video Tape in front of some rocks anywhere in Afghanistan, Pakistan, IRAN, or any place else, I don't think there would be enough "clues" for anyone to pinpoint his location.

122 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:23:22am

re: #58 avanti

Fox just reporting that al-Qaeda's terrorists are being encouraged to work with white supremacists to attack the POTUS with anthrax smuggled in from Mexico.


Wow, I thought you were joking.

123 AuntAcid  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:24:00am

re: #118 FurryOldGuyJeans

Also need to check underneath the I-5 overpasses in Seattle and a couple of empty lots.

and check the cemeteries for sleeper cells...

124 debutaunt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:24:03am

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Wow, I thought you were joking.

Awaiting link.

125 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:24:23am

re: #118 FurryOldGuyJeans

Also need to check underneath the I-5 overpasses in Seattle and a couple of empty lots.

Has anybody thought to look under that table where Hillary finally found those missing files?

I'm thinking that table must be in a pretty obscure location, and you never know. It'd have been the last place I'd have thought to look.

126 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:24:23am

re: #120 calcajun

Doesn't OBL have a little BBQ joint in Memphis these days?

Or is he a cab driver in Minneapolis?

127 AuntAcid  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:25:01am

re: #120 calcajun

Doesn't OBL have a little BBQ joint in Memphis these days?

Applebee's...

128 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:25:19am

re: #58 avanti

Fox just reporting that al-Qaeda's terrorists are being encouraged to work with white supremacists to attack the POTUS with anthrax smuggled in from Mexico.

Wasn't that the 2nd season plot of the of the series Sleeper Cell?

129 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:25:27am

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Wow, I thought you were joking.

why not?...think outside the box....AQ is all over the place

130 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:26:03am

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda eyes bio attack from Mexico

A U.S. counterterrorism official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said al-Nafisi is a "person of interest" and a veteran recruiter for al Qaeda. Misidentified on some blog sites as a professor, he is a Kuwaiti dissident and al Qaeda associate who is thought to have communicated with senior al Qaeda leaders in recent years, the counterterrorism official said. The recruiter is also said to have close ties to Mullah Mohammed Omar, the senior Afghan Taliban leader now thought to be in Pakistan.
...
n the 10-minute clip, al-Nafisi suggested that al Qaeda might want to make common cause with what he claimed are "300,000" members of white supremacist and other militias in the U.S.

"These militias even think about bombing nuclear plants within the U.S.," he said. "May God grant them success, even though we are not white, or even close to it, right? They have plans to bomb the nuclear plant at Lake Michigan. This plant is very important. ... May God grant success to one of these militia leaders, who is thinking about bombing this plant. I believe that we should devote part of our prayers to him."

I don't know what to make of this one.

131 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:26:13am

re: #120 calcajun

Doesn't OBL have a little BBQ joint in Memphis these days?

Osama Pulled Pork Sandwiches?

132 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:26:18am

re: #124 debutaunt

Awaiting link.

It was a TV report

133 Orangutan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:26:34am

"“In the past, he has timed the release of the messages to major events the activity of useful idiots. So it’s unsurprising that he chose this particular week.”

/

134 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:26:42am

re: #58 avanti

Fox just reporting that al-Qaeda's terrorists are being encouraged to work with white supremacists to attack the POTUS with anthrax smuggled in from Mexico.

"You fellers want some bacon and eggs? What, you don't eat bacon? What the hell's wrong with you?"

135 Kragar  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:27:11am

re: #111 Pianobuff

Sascha Baron Cohen as OBL?

Helen Thomas can be the nosey neighbor who always just manages to miss their hijinks

136 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:27:30am

re: #133 Orangutan

"“In the past, he has timed the release of the messages to major events the activity of useful idiots. So it’s unsurprising that he chose this particular week.”

/

He's got the hots for Cindy Sheehan.

137 calcajun  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:27:35am

re: #127 AuntAcid

Applebee's...

A Muslim Applebee's--Where it's Good Under the Hood?

138 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:28:00am

Yes, this was timed with Obama's trip to the Middle East, but what he's calling for is yet another da'wa. End the acts started by President Bush - or else. That's the sum total of Osama's statement courtesy of the disembodied voice.

139 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:28:09am

re: #132 Nevergiveup

It was a TV report

Found
one.

140 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:28:28am

re: #130 Killgore Trout

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda eyes bio attack from Mexico

I don't know what to make of this one.

Me, neither. That story appears to begin in the middle, and I don't see a summary paragraph.

141 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:28:37am

re: #130 Killgore Trout

The Nazis at Stormfront....

Smells like Jewish propaganda... Imagine that


....

Quite easy to see that Obama now has his sights on White Nationalists and will use Homeland Security to harass in any way possible now.

Why would Muslims want to team up with White Nationalists who by their very nature should hate each others guts?


....

The jewsmedia cares so little about the lies they spread that they can't even get the supremacist vs. separatist distinction right . . . idiots . . .

They ain't buyin' it.

142 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:28:38am

re: #135 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Helen Thomas can be the nosey neighbor who always just manages to miss their hijinks

The resident "Furley"?

I was thinking that everytime OBL is foiled he'll grimace and say "Petraeus" (ala "Newman").

143 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:28:41am

Another "Christian" compares psycho murderer Scott Roeder to ... Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who tried to assassinate Adolf Hitler:

[Link: www.anotherthink.com...]

Are these times, and the circumstances we find ourselves in, really so different from Dietrich Bonhoeffer's day?

While non-violent, political opposition to evil is always the default position for Christians, the lesson of Bonhoeffer seems to be that there are times when the heart and soul of a government becomes hardened against the prophetic outcry of God's people. At such a time, far more may be required of us. Is this such a time? How far should we be willing to go to stop the killing of the innocents?

The murder of Dr. George Tiller seems to have stirred up a lot of pro-vigilante feelings among so-called "Christians" and right-wing bloggers.

144 calcajun  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:28:41am

re: #131 razorbacker

Osama Pulled Pork Sandwiches?

What better way to hide. OBL is a contestant in The Big Pig Jig--Brilliant.

145 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:28:51am

re: #130 Killgore Trout

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda eyes bio attack from Mexico


I don't know what to make of this one.

24 hour rule.

146 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:29:31am

Maybe he's afraid of the exploding video camera trick he used against Masood.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

147 brookly red  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:29:36am

re: #129 albusteve

why not?...think outside the box....AQ is all over the place

/I just don't see white supremacists working with AQ... they tend to be a bit xenophobic.

148 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:29:55am

re: #130 Killgore Trout

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda eyes bio attack from Mexico

I don't know what to make of this one.

It certainly seems possible, considering that white supremacists share al Qaeda's views on Jews and also hate the U.S. Government. The number 300,000 seems rather inflated, though.

149 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:30:05am

re: #140 Dianna

Sorry, I linked to page two. Here's page one...
EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda eyes bio attack from Mexico
Seeks white militias as allies

150 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:30:11am

re: #130 Killgore Trout

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda eyes bio attack from Mexico

Al Queda's going to be importing Mexican water?
/

151 debutaunt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:30:26am

re: #147 brookly red

/I just don't see white supremacists working with AQ... they tend to be a bit xenophobic.

They don't want to get up and discover they've lost their fleas.

152 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:31:00am

re: #99 Dianna You certainly could be correct that the dialysis was disinformation, but IIRC (it has been a while) that information came out of some of the "interrogated" detainess in Gitmo as well as from the usual suspects.
Either way, I still think he's dead for the reasons I set forth in my #75, none of which have anything to do with dialysis.
Oh and on the theory that even a stopped clock is right twice a day, some comedian said "Geez, how the hell hard would it be for drones or other reconnaissance means to spot a damn 6'5" Arab amongst all the other creatures that they've whacked with Hellfire missiles."?

153 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:31:24am

re: #143 Charles

Another "Christian" compares psycho murderer Scott Roeder to ... Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who tried to assassinate Adolf Hitler:

[Link: www.anotherthink.com...]

The murder of Dr. George Tiller seems to have stirred up a lot of pro-vigilante feelings among so-called "Christians" and right-wing bloggers.

These groups seem intent of provoking some serious action. Makes me think they want a civil war or something.

154 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:31:34am

re: #143 Charles

Another "Christian" compares psycho murderer Scott Roeder to ... Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who tried to assassinate Adolf Hitler:

[Link: www.anotherthink.com...]

The murder of Dr. George Tiller seems to have stirred up a lot of pro-vigilante feelings among so-called "Christians" and right-wing bloggers.

Ironically, Bonhoeffer was a Lutheran.

155 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:31:36am

re: #139 avanti

Found
one.

Ah! Better - I think KT and I ended up on the second page or something.

Lede:

U.S. counterterrorism officials have authenticated a video by an al Qaeda recruiter threatening to smuggle a biological weapon into the United States via tunnels under the Mexico border, the latest sign of the terrorist group's determination to stage another mass-casualty attack on the U.S. homeland.

re: #143 Charles

156 Kragar  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:31:36am

re: #142 Pianobuff

The resident "Furley"?

I was thinking that everytime OBL is foiled he'll grimace and say "Petraeus" (ala "Newman").

Everytime someone says the word Bush, he'll dive for cover and then he'll call out "I'm OK!"

157 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:31:53am

OT, but not really:

Al Qaeda Beheads British Hostage in Mali

For all you lefties lurking out there, this is torture. Still wanna talk about water boarding, you morons?

Oh yeah, and this "let's open a dialog" crapola - these are the people you want to have a chat with?

158 calcajun  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:32:14am

re: #150 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Al Queda's going to be importing Mexican water?
/

No--getting all the residents of Tijuana to flush their toilets at once and force the closure of large sections of San Diego beaches...wait, that happens already./

159 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:32:22am

re: #149 Killgore Trout

Sorry, I linked to page two. Here's page one...
EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda eyes bio attack from Mexico
Seeks white militias as allies

Yeah, I followed Avanti's link. I even copied and pasted the lede para.

Then I forgot to hit "post".

I'm embarrassed.

160 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:32:48am

re: #140 Dianna

Me, neither. That story appears to begin in the middle, and I don't see a summary paragraph.

There's a translated recruiting video that they get this from that speaks to the possibility. I haven't had time to dig more, pretty busy here.

161 debutaunt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:33:03am

re: #159 Dianna

Yeah, I followed Avanti's link. I even copied and pasted the lede para.

Then I forgot to hit "post".

I'm embarrassed.

Was your mind wandering?

162 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:33:20am
In the video, obtained and translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, al-Nafisi also suggests that al Qaeda might want to collaborate with members of native U.S. white supremacist militias who hate the federal government.


Memri has the clip.

163 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:34:12am

OT

Too good not to post.

OMG! Robert Pattinson has removed his shirt!

164 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:34:30am

Just confirmed the location of our large bottle of Ciprofloxin just in case.

165 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:34:51am

re: #159 Dianna

Heh, both of us are a mess today.

166 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:35:17am

re: #164 Pianobuff

Just confirmed the location of our large bottle of Ciprofloxin just in case.

Check the expiration date?

167 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:35:30am

re: #163 Catttt

OT

Too good not to post.

OMG! Robert Pattinson has removed his shirt!

I have a fair number of younger sisters, cousins, etc. who are going to hyperventilate over this.

168 Kragar  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:35:34am

re: #163 Catttt

OT

Too good not to post.

OMG! Robert Pattinson has removed his shirt!

And I thought I was white

169 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:36:06am

re: #166 Nevergiveup

Check the expiration date?

"Expires with Bush administration"

/crap!

170 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:36:14am

re: #130 Killgore Trout

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda eyes bio attack from Mexico

I don't know what to make of this one.

I think I'll call for the 48 hour rule on this one. A few things from the article stand out as strange.

"These militias even think about bombing nuclear plants within the U.S.," he said. "May God grant them success, even though we are not white, or even close to it, right? They have plans to bomb the nuclear plant at Lake Michigan. This plant is very important. ... May God grant success to one of these militia leaders, who is thinking about bombing this plant. I believe that we should devote part of our prayers to him."

Which nuclear plant? There's several candidates by the Lake, and near the Lake (within 50 miles). Does he mean Cook (Bridgman, MI), Zion (Deactivated, Zion, IL), Braidwood (Braidwood, IL), Dresden (Channahon, IL), Kewaunee (Kewaunee, WI), Point Beach (Manitowoc, WI), or Palisades (Covert Twp, MI).

171 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:36:31am

re: #166 Nevergiveup

Check the expiration date?

July 11.

172 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:36:37am

re: #153 FurryOldGuyJeans

These groups seem intent of provoking some serious action. Makes me think they want a civil war or something.

I had the misfortune to overhear someone saying that vigilance actions are the result of people feeling they have no access to justice. That was Sunday afternoon, after the news about the shooting.

Anyone who isn't finding this upsetting, they're not paying attention.

173 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:37:04am

re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And I thought I was white

He's wearing makeup to make him whiter. Vampire, remember?

174 mattm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:37:06am

If he was alive and well he would be on tape taunting everyone saying "ha ha you can't kill me, oh and uh, Death to America!" among other things. He is most likely dead of very ill.

175 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:37:30am

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Heh, both of us are a mess today.

Yeah, I couldn't get to sleep last night. My heart kept racing, I was tense, and I couldn't slow my thinking down.

Really annoying.

176 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:37:43am

re: #170 Honorary Yooper

It's possible that there might be some connection but this story doesn't pass the initial sniff test.

177 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:37:50am

re: #170 Honorary Yooper

Which nuclear plant? There's several candidates by the Lake, and near the Lake (within 50 miles). Does he mean Cook (Bridgman, MI), Zion (Deactivated, Zion, IL), Braidwood (Braidwood, IL), Dresden (Channahon, IL), Kewaunee (Kewaunee, WI), Point Beach (Manitowoc, WI), or Palisades (Covert Twp, MI).

"That's for us to know and you to find out!"

/obl

178 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:38:11am

re: #161 debutaunt

Was your mind wandering?

Again.

179 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:38:40am

re: #171 Pianobuff

July 11.

That's a nice number, but the year is kinda more important.

180 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:38:40am

re: #175 Dianna

Yeah, I couldn't get to sleep last night. My heart kept racing, I was tense, and I couldn't slow my thinking down.

Really annoying.


Try Zen. It actually really works to quiet your mind.

181 Cathypop  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:39:02am

re: #163 Catttt

OT

Too good not to post.

OMG! Robert Pattinson has removed his shirt!

EEWWW. YUCK

182 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:39:19am

re: #175 Dianna

Yeah, I couldn't get to sleep last night. My heart kept racing, I was tense, and I couldn't slow my thinking down.

Really annoying.

I hate that! Those nights you can't sleep..Mind is racing on the freeway..
And dreading the 6am buzz of the alarm clock..

183 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:39:23am

re: #174 mattm

If he was alive and well he would be on tape taunting everyone saying "ha ha you can't kill me, oh and uh, Death to America!" among other things. He is most likely dead of very ill.

"most likely" is not proof

184 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:39:23am

re: #179 Nevergiveup

That's a nice number, but the year is kinda more important.

Heh...this year.

185 Catttt  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:39:25am

re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And I thought I was white

Well, but you're not a vampire, then, are you? :D

186 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:39:56am

re: #181 Cathypop

EEWWW. YUCK

Could have been worse; could have been me without a shirt in those pictures. ;)

187 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:40:59am

Not all the Nazis at Stormfront object....

Many Muslims come from the very ethnic background as the rest of us. For example Bosnian Muslims are as white in appearance and culture as us. I think perhaps we should be more open to them where they share the same values, regardless of religion. White unity is important, not division over religion. We are in a fight for our very survival and can use all the help we can get.

NO I am not advocating cooperation with terrorists. I am just advocating keeping an open mind to regard to religion.

188 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:41:01am

re: #183 albusteve

"most likely" is not proof

Reasonable doubt will be operative for quite some time. The only way to be certain is wait a few decades or centuries.

189 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:41:10am

re: #176 Killgore Trout

It's possible that there might be some connection but this story doesn't pass the initial sniff test.

That video clip at MEMRI is more than 4 months old, by the way.

190 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:41:48am

re: #180 Killgore Trout

Try Zen. It actually really works to quiet your mind.

I tried to meditate and couldn't get down. I swear, I'm going to go see my doctor and get some very mild prescription, like atavan, if this keeps up.

191 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:42:07am

re: #187 Killgore Trout

and another one....

Hatred of muslims is screamed at us daily in the MSM by the jews, who just happen to be THE WORLD's most dangerous enemy. Since the muslims understand that the jews hate them and blame them for jew false flag ops, I welcome their wrath against the jew plague.
192 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:42:27am

re: #182 HoosierHoops

I hate that! Those nights you can't sleep..Mind is racing on the freeway..
And dreading the 6am buzz of the alarm clock..

Piker! 5 a.m., or doggies don't get the walkies and attention they need.

193 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:42:51am

re: #189 Charles

Huh, that explains why I didn't see it on their front page.

194 Racer X  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:44:14am

Lee Harvey Oswald remains suspiciously silent.

195 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:44:18am

re: #191 Killgore Trout

Ugh.

196 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:45:21am

re: #103 kansas

The Dreaded Pirate Roberts perhaps?

That's Dread: perhaps I will kill you tomorrow.
;-)

197 Beach Lover  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:45:31am

afternoon lizards! I still think if he were alive SOMEBODY would drop a dime (now there's a phrase that has lost it's place in relevancy) for the 50 Million...I mean, to Obama its chump change, but to someone living under a rock...thats some serious $$.

198 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:45:40am

re: #191 Killgore Trout

Hatred of Muslims screamed by the MSM, eh? What news is this microencephelic watching? Sure not what I see on a daily basis.

199 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:46:01am

re: #192 Dianna

Piker! 5 a.m., or doggies don't get the walkies and attention they need.

My dog is lazy..I think he has a built in snooze alarm...He is still yawning when I boot him out in the backyard...

200 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:46:04am

Dead or Alive - He's Still "BIN HIDIN'!" That is all.

-S-

201 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:46:05am

re: #170 Honorary Yooper

Which nuclear plant? There's several candidates by the Lake, and near the Lake (within 50 miles). Does he mean Cook (Bridgman, MI), Zion (Deactivated, Zion, IL), Braidwood (Braidwood, IL), Dresden (Channahon, IL), Kewaunee (Kewaunee, WI), Point Beach (Manitowoc, WI), or Palisades (Covert Twp, MI).

There's been chatter in jihadi forums for months on how to use Obama's election and race, I think this is just more variation on that. They were talking about how to use the internet to make racial tension higher.

202 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:46:15am

re: #148 doppelganglander
Well the only real problem with this as a theory is that white supremacists are not likely to affiliate with or work with or do anything other than shoot Arabs, Al-Q or otherwise.
Not to mention the fact that "biological agents" tend to either dissipate rapidly or spread rapidly and you can never really be sure you're getting those whom you've targeted - could EASILY get your own people instead.
I'll give it a 24-48 hour rule, but think the liklihood of the White Surpemacists allying with Al-Q is about nil HERE. In Europe, maybe, but not here. The hatred here is based on different reasons entirely.

203 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:46:21am

So the white supremacists are mulling over the idea of teaming up with radical muslims? I have an idea. Let's encourage that. Once they've teamed up, we then sneak a message to each side, telling them that the other group is getting ready to turn on them.

204 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:46:27am

re: #118 FurryOldGuyJeans

Also need to check underneath the I-5 overpasses in Seattle and a couple of empty lots.

And the mailbox service across from the court house. 1100 people living there.

205 Kragar  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:46:56am

re: #173 EmmmieG

He's wearing makeup to make him whiter. Vampire, remember?

Then what's he doing out in the sunlight? I remember this.

206 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:47:25am

re: #204 jcm

And the mailbox service across from the court house. 1100 people living there.

I had forgotten that! Thanks for the reminder from 2004.

207 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:47:43am

re: #205 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Then what's he doing out in the sunlight? I remember this.

They add the sparkle with CGI.

208 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:48:10am

re: #189 Charles

That video clip at MEMRI is more than 4 months old, by the way.

Yes, and why is it coming out in stories now?

209 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:49:38am

re: #208 Thanos

Yes, and why is it coming out in stories now?

Journalists and government workers are lazy. I smell an agenda at work here, and it is not one from al Qaeda.

210 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:50:32am

OT: Minor point of amusement - I've written four letters in a row to women whose names begin with J.

211 Kragar  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:50:55am

re: #207 EmmmieG

They add the sparkle with CGI.

VAMPIRES DON'T SPARKLE!

212 Kragar  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:51:37am

re: #210 Dianna

OT: Minor point of amusement - I've written four letters in a row to women whose names begin with J.

Joan Jett?

213 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:52:07am

re: #210 Dianna

OT: Minor point of amusement - I've written four letters in a row to women whose names begin with J.

You are CURSED! ;)

214 Winslow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:52:58am

Epitaph

A voice arises from the void
Of one who's long since been destroyed,
His vital organs unemployed:
The dead Al Qaeda freakazoid.

215 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:53:23am
216 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:54:40am

re: #195 Dianna

There seems to be enough support over at Stormfront that it makes the strategy possible, maybe even likely. It looks like we're back to the 80's with the anti-government militias. The only difference now is they're aligning with Islamists, which makes them potentially more dangerous. Since the GOP is embracing it's loony liberertarian wing means if something happens and gets connected to a pundit like Glenn Beck or something like the Tea Party movement (which still hasn't denounced involvement from Stormfront) the political damage would be huge. Possibly even permanent.

217 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:54:49am

re: #175 Dianna
I truly hate to recommed any sort of drug therapy, but you might ask your doctor about Ambien 12.5 CR (available by prescription only) I use it because it a)turns my mind OFF and b) is extended release, so I get about 6 hours or so of real sleep. Course, half an hour after I wake up the mind is racing again but......!
Seriously though, Ambien 12.5 CR is non-narcotic and does work quite, quite well.

218 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:54:57am

re: #155 Dianna

re: #143 Charles

You ended on the second page, with me on the first because Avanti means "forward". :)

219 Dianna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:55:06am

re: #210 Dianna

OT: Minor point of amusement - I've written four letters in a row to women whose names begin with J.

Make that 5!

220 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:55:26am

re: #189 Charles

That video clip at MEMRI is more than 4 months old, by the way.

The author of the Washington Times article, Sara Carter, is a bit of a sensationalist, IMHO. She reported about the Mexican border for a So. Cal. paper before the Wa Times picked her up. Feeding the adrenalin junkies.

221 DaddyG  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:55:27am
...if this is really bin Laden, why doesn’t he ever appear on video like every other Al Qaeda freakazoid?

Hell is still using dial-up. /

222 ladycatnip  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:03:44am

With the One's comments lately, I'm beginning to think there's more to the O's affinity with islam than meets the eye. Now he's visiting Saudi Arabia, "Where islam began..."

And his "America is one of the largest muslim nations..."

Curious how his middle name was off limits during his campaign. Now he refers to himself as BHO, and brings up his muslim roots as though it's now significant.

223 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:22:08am

re: #222 ladycatnip

With the One's comments lately, I'm beginning to think there's more to the O's affinity with islam than meets the eye. Now he's visiting Saudi Arabia, "Where islam began..."

And his "America is one of the largest muslim nations..."

Curious how his middle name was off limits during his campaign. Now he refers to himself as BHO, and brings up his muslim roots as though it's now significant.

Someone linked to an article saying the US was something like 38th.
Obama must be using ACORN's counting methods.

224 AZDave  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:24:41am

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

Maybe he could get a spot on The View.

He'd be too conservative compared with those broads.

225 NukeAtomrod  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:24:46am

If the Bush Administration knew Osama was dead, they would have announced it. It would have been hailed as a victory and rightly so. And it would have helped the Republicans immensely in the 2008 election.

I think the CIA just doesn't know. There is no logical reason for the US Government to hide it. However if he is dead, the benefit of keeping his death secret is of great value to Al-Qaeda.

I don't think we'll know with certainty for a long, long time.

226 ihateronpaul  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:26:14am

If he was dead wouldn't his martyrdom be celebrated? And a successor named?

227 AZDave  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:27:41am

re: #11 Kosh's Shadow

why doesn’t he ever appear on video like every other Al Qaeda freakazoid?

Either dead or so wounded he's uglier than a goat.

But it shows how backward Al Qaeda is. If they had the latest Hollywood technology, they could show him dancing around and shooting Americans with his AK-47, even if he's long since rotted away at the bottom of a cave.

Just can't get the lighting right.

228 J.S.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:47:49am

re: #222 ladycatnip

Actually, Obama didn't use the word "is" -- Obama is quoted as saying, "we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.." etc. Nonetheless, I have the impression that Obama has a real problem with numbers (as if he's somehow "number blind"...(?))

229 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:02:35pm

re: #170 Honorary Yooper

Which nuclear plant? There's several candidates by the Lake, and near the Lake (within 50 miles). Does he mean Cook (Bridgman, MI), Zion (Deactivated, Zion, IL), Braidwood (Braidwood, IL), Dresden (Channahon, IL), Kewaunee (Kewaunee, WI), Point Beach (Manitowoc, WI), or Palisades (Covert Twp, MI).

They'd probably pick the Zion plant, just 'cause. I'm sure the 'decomissioning' is just another Joooo lie.

230 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:07:14pm

re: #190 Dianna

I tried to meditate and couldn't get down. I swear, I'm going to go see my doctor and get some very mild prescription, like atavan, if this keeps up.

Here's another suggestion. Don't dismiss it just because it sounds ridiculous.

Relax your tongue.

I swear, this works. Give it a try. It doesn't cost anything, either.

231 SixDegrees  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:10:50pm

re: #203 subsailor68

So the white supremacists are mulling over the idea of teaming up with radical muslims? I have an idea. Let's encourage that. Once they've teamed up, we then sneak a message to each side, telling them that the other group is getting ready to turn on them.

Infiltration is, indeed, the key to success with such groups.

232 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:23:16pm

Dick Morris on the real meaning of Obama's mideast trip:

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

233 kynna  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:27:53pm

Good thing Obama promised to focus his military strategy on getting Bin Laden. When will somebody finally sign the death certificate for Mr. DNA Smear? What's the strategic benefit to keeping him "alive"?

234 katemaclaren  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:31:53pm

re: #3 zombie

He's dead, Jim.

Bring me Osama Bin Laden's head! Oops.
Bones, they have his brain--in a jar marked--yep-- "abnormal" hooked up to...Egads! It's Igor!

235 katemaclaren  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:34:10pm

Do they do those voice print tests--or whatever they are--to determine the authenticity?

236 Throbert McGee  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 12:40:09pm

re: #163 Catttt

OT

Too good not to post.

OMG! Robert Pattinson has removed his shirt!

Twenty years before anyone had heard of Twilight or Robert Pattinson, Bloom County said it best.

237 wiffersnapper  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 1:51:12pm

Uh huh, sure OBL's still alive. He's probably been dead for the past few years!

238 Clubsec  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:07:53pm

Only the JADAM's and JSOW's know for sure and they ain't talkin'.

239 tradewind  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:12:15pm

Why doesn’t anyone ever ask: if this is really bin Laden, why doesn’t he ever appear on video like every other Al Qaeda freakazoid?
There's no upside to the government's messing with the fiction. If we presented conclusive evidence that UBL had indeed bin laden the dust of Tora Bora, or some other hellhole as I believe, that would just provide another excuse for the Islamocrazies to raise hell.

240 tradewind  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 3:12:56pm

(PIMF... shoulda been a quote instead of a strikeout.)

241 edsamsel  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 4:50:59pm

I haven't read all of the above, I hope you can forgive reiteration. Voice recognition technology can definitively establish identity, with standard samples. The Govt has not issued a Cert. of Authenticity yet, and should we believe them if they do, why should we believe the Govt anyway? They know, why would they tell US? I vote long dead. Ed

242 cosmo  Thu, Jun 4, 2009 11:52:49am

Forget the "why doesn't he appear on video" query--I want to know why this multimillionaire well-financed terror mastermind is using cassette tapes (i.e. audiotape) to deliver his manifestos to the world? Dude. Get a Dell. Email the mp3 to your al-Reuters handlers.


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