Please note! Barack Obama is absolutely not bowing to King Abdullah! He’s receiving a medal.
That is not a bow. It’s very, very different from a bow.
Thank you for listening.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:15:13pm |
Wow. Amazing. I was just going to post the Bush bowed too picture on the last thread.
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MandyManners Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:16:19pm |
Even if a really short person were to have a medal put around his neck by a tall person, he’d have to bend his neck a bit.
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Kronocide Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:16:24pm |
With that Run DMC thing on his neck he should be bending over. That thing could hang a midget.
(not offense to midgets)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:16:37pm |
Big whoop even if Obama did bow. Our friends the Saudis have us by the short hairs since they have oil.
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spudly Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:17:30pm |
Agree, 100%. Clearly a functional, not social or protocol bend this time.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:17:32pm |
re: #6 BigPapa
With that Run DMC thing on his neck he should be bending over. That thing could hang a midget.
(not offense to midgets)
I want a giant H.. I promise to bow if a King gives it to me…
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brookly red Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:19:19pm |
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Cato the Elder Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:19:25pm |
I don’t know why this just occurred to me, but there it is:
Obama should ask the Brits to send back the bust of Churchill. And then hang that thang around Winston’s neck.
Absurdism off.
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jcm Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:20:27pm |
At least George Bush never bowed……
Need I?
Just to be sure.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:20:33pm |
re: #15 Yankee Division Son
When will this rampant respect end? If everybody bow to everyone then will will be left sanding tall?
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:20:37pm |
re: #17 Cato the Elder
I don’t know why this just occurred to me, but there it is:
Obama should ask the Brits to send back the bust of Churchill. And then hang that thang around Winston’s neck.
Absurdism off.
Maybe Gordon Brown can personally deliver it, since he will soon be out of a job?
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irongrampa Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:20:48pm |
re: #14 Kreuzueber Halbmond
Right after Porkulus is repealed.
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screaming_eagle Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:21:37pm |
I hope the medal is worth alot of money. The US treasury needs all the money it can get.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:21:57pm |
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jcm Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:22:29pm |
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
Winston Churchill, “The River War”
Just for a little context.
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gtrs Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:22:30pm |
since saudi arabia is one of possibly two arab country’s(the other being jordan)that the U.S. can get to making a REAL DEAL with israel that might actually hold up, i am glad obama is making the effort; bow or not(personally i think it is despicable how saudi arabia treats it women but any progress in the middle east WILL include the saudis)
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quickjustice Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:22:46pm |
The President of the U.S. doesn’t bow to a Saudi king for a medal. He bows for an oil well!
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Kronocide Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:22:46pm |
I’m pretty sure I say Obama give him a wet willie. It was ninja style, you have to really watch. I didn’t start to notice until my 68th time watching it.
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albusteve Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:22:53pm |
he’s simply offering his neck…an old Saudi custom I hear
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brookly red Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:23:01pm |
re: #24 buzzsawmonkey
Obama didn’t bow?
Hell.
What am I going to do with fifty gross of Drinky Bird Presidents now?
well he hasn’t me with the Chinese yet…
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:23:02pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
When will this rampant respect end? If everybody bow to everyone then will will be left sanding tall?
The United States Military
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HoosierHoops Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:23:07pm |
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:23:42pm |
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NoWhereAlaska Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:23:52pm |
All this B.S. about bowing, isn’t there enough to issues for us to discuss that have some weight. You know, like an economy heading in the wrong direction, and a government that is moving toward State ownership of major industries. I just think our priorities are just screwy sometimes.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:24:01pm |
Bush seemed to like his better than Obama did.
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MandyManners Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:24:35pm |
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Gus Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:24:59pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
When will this rampant respect end? If everybody bow to everyone then will will be left sanding tall?
Everytime you bow G-d kills a kitten.
Please, think of the kittens.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:25:08pm |
re: #29 gtrs
since saudi arabia is one of possibly two arab country’s(the other being jordan)that the U.S. can get to making a REAL DEAL with israel that might actually hold up, i am glad obama is making the effort; bow or not(personally i think it is despicable how saudi arabia treats it women but any progress in the middle east WILL include the saudis)
The Saud’s aren’t really leaders, they are followers and will make no deal with Israel with out cover from the rest of the Arab World. They are cowards. As for Jordan, they already have a peace treaty with Israel.
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jcm Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:25:21pm |
re: #37 NoWhereAlaska
All this B.S. about bowing, isn’t there enough to issues for us to discuss that have some weight. You know, like an economy heading in the wrong direction, and a government that is moving toward State ownership of major industries. I just think our priorities are just screwy sometimes.
Take a bow on your way out……
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:25:57pm |
re: #15 Yankee Division Son
But Brian Williams bows to Obama…
OMG! It’s catching. Someone must act immediately before any more bowing takes place! Call Inspector Gadget!
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jcm Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:26:32pm |
re: #44 albusteve
I have no priorities…I’m not a ‘we’
Sure you do…
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Women, not necessarily in that order.
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nyc redneck Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:27:35pm |
re: #7 Nevergiveup
Nope no bow. But he did bow last time!
agree,
but he would like to bow and scrape this time too.
what a shame he has to settle for a nod.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:28:22pm |
Yanks down 4-1 in the bottom of the third. Yanks up bases loaded for A-rod. Lets see?
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freetoken Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:28:29pm |
re: #51 Cato the Elder
You think it’s maybe 24k plated on top of a much lower gold-alloy?
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:28:29pm |
re: #16 brookly red
/only as much as taxes…
I say sell the necklace, put the money in the treasury and give us a tax break.
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Kronocide Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:28:46pm |
Just what we need, another bowfer thread. Has there been any bowfer meltdowns?
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Bloodnok Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:28:52pm |
It looks like he’s on the set of the Mike Douglas show or something. Nice couch.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:29:07pm |
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gtrs Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:29:09pm |
re: #42 Nevergiveup
agreed to a point BUT saudi arabia does have the balls to tell iran to go to hell(at least to the elections in iran this summer kick out “mr. president holocaust denier”) and i know jordan has that treaty; i am talking about FUTURE progress and my point is saudi arabia and jordan will need to be engaged because israel can deal with them(at our urging)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:29:22pm |
re: #41 Gus 802
Everytime you bow G-d kills a kitten.
Please, think of the kittens.
//
[Link: upload.wikimedia.org…]
Nice link, but I am about to fact check the hell out of it…
If that were even remotely true, then I would be responsible for single handedly making the cat species extinct.
/see what I did there?
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researchok Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:29:57pm |
He’s moving up.
In Chicago, all you get are bags of cash.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:29:57pm |
Lil Bow Wow
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brookly red Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:30:15pm |
re: #56 Kreuzueber Halbmond
I say sell the necklace, put the money in the treasury and give us a tax break.
/I’m not sure its a necklace, looks kinda like a training collar…
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:30:24pm |
Hate mail already for this one!
A few months ago there is a video of Obummer bowing to King Abdullard.
I saw the video and he obviously bows. Now you have a video of Obummer
receiving a medal and you sarcastically point out he is not bowing. To
make your point you show a picture of Bush receiving a medal from King
Abdullard and you say “bush bowed too.”Are you serious or are you just a fucking Obama apologist imbecile?
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jcm Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:30:32pm |
re: #62 Slumbering Behemoth
Nice link, but I am about to fact check the hell out of it…
If that were even remotely true, then I would be responsible for single handedly making the cat species extinct.
/see what I did there?
More research is required.
BRB………..
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albusteve Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:30:37pm |
re: #57 jcm
Obama has ‘em dancin’ in the Magic Kingdom!
which ones are the chicks?….anyway tomorrow BO is attending the drifting nationals
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jim in virginia Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:30:48pm |
What did Obama give the king? A DVD of Debbie Does Dallas?
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sbvft contributor Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:30:56pm |
That necklace was huge. I was amazed the pencil necked geek could stand straight up afterwards.
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Last Mohican Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:30:58pm |
re: #15 Yankee Division Son
But Brian Williams bows to Obama…
I nodded my head like that to my neighbor when I passed him on the street this morning. I had no idea I was bowing. Uh-oh, I hope I haven’t accidentally made myself his servant or something.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:30:59pm |
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Samurai Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:31:05pm |
Official King’s Shopper: “Sire, what present should we get for President Obama?”
King Abdullah: “Well, he’s black, so he must like the bling. Get the biggest, gaudiest gold chain necklace you can find! Oh, and you should pick up a region 1 DVD player while you’re out… I have a feeling I know what Mr. Obama’s gift back to me will be…”
Official King’s Shopper: “Yes, o wise King, but hopefully you will at least receive some new releases, not the Best of Martin Lawrence collection he gave the British Queen!”
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Cato the Elder Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:31:11pm |
re: #55 freetoken
You think it’s maybe 24k plated on top of a much lower gold-alloy?
Haha! Like the 2-micron layer on my gold-plated ass!
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Gus Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:31:18pm |
re: #62 Slumbering Behemoth
Nice link, but I am about to fact check the hell out of it…
If that were even remotely true, then I would be responsible for single handedly making the cat species extinct.
/see what I did there?
Yep, I saw that.
/Are you related to Fritz the Cat?
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:31:22pm |
re: #71 jim in virginia
What did Obama give the king? A DVD of Debbie Does Dallas?
A CD collection of Barbra Streisand’s Greatest Hits
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MandyManners Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:32:02pm |
re: #37 NoWhereAlaska
All this B.S. about bowing, isn’t there enough to issues for us to discuss that have some weight. You know, like an economy heading in the wrong direction, and a government that is moving toward State ownership of major industries. I just think our priorities are just screwy sometimes.
I agree. How dare we make fun of our leaders and politics when there are serious things to contemplate! What are we thinking?!
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albusteve Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:32:17pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:32:21pm |
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Last Mohican Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:32:38pm |
re: #68 Charles
Hate mail already for this one!
Two neologisms in one message! “Obummer” and “Abdullard.” That’s how you know you’re dealing with a superior intellect, when they start letting loose with the altered names like that.
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MandyManners Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:32:45pm |
re: #71 jim in virginia
What did Obama give the king? A DVD of Debbie Does Dallas?
He already has it.
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:32:50pm |
re: #67 brookly red
/I’m not sure its a necklace, looks kinda like a training collar…
Maybe it’s really just one of those chocolate coins wrapped in gold colored tin foil.
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nyc redneck Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:33:16pm |
i heard a on the abc radio news this morning that o had coffee w/ the saudi king
and tho o doesn’t drink coffee, “he sipped politely from his cup.”
isn’t that just fcking fabulous?
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HoosierHoops Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:33:23pm |
re: #54 Nevergiveup
Yanks down 4-1 in the bottom of the third. Yanks up bases loaded for A-rod. Lets see?
I’m watching Boston…You must be watching YES network?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:33:24pm |
re: #84 HoosierHoops
Your post lacks real class…
Would have to add lots of class for it to even be in contention for lacking real class.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:33:31pm |
A gold chain representative of the link between the US and Saudi Arabia, because oil doesn’t make a good chain.
(And I’m not singling out Obama in this one; Bush and others have all kissed Saudi ass for oil.)
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gtrs Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:33:56pm |
re: #68 Charles
“A FUCKING OBAMA APOLOGIST IMBECILE”?; boy, that wacko sure doesn’t read THIS site much!……………………/
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jcm Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:34:16pm |
re: #89 nyc redneck
i heard a on the abc radio news this morning that o had coffee w/ the saudi king
and tho o doesn’t drink coffee, “he sipped politely from his cup.”
isn’t that just fcking fabulous?
Now in Iran, if you didn’t accept a second cup (usually tea) it was an insult.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:34:16pm |
re: #82 MandyManners
I agree. How dare we make fun of our leaders and politics when there are serious things to contemplate! What are we thinking?!
I should get a medal. As a citizen of Detroit and a Jew with family in Israel, I am making a PATRIOTIC SACRIFICE. Even though it wasn’t my choice to make the sacrifice, Obama told me that I should be proud to be here under the bus.
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big steve Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:34:50pm |
re: #68 Charles
Hate mail already for this one!
Are you serious or are you just a fucking Obama apologist imbecile?
I vote that you are serious.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:34:56pm |
Bow Fishing
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brookly red Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:34:59pm |
re: #88 Kreuzueber Halbmond
Maybe it’s really just one of those chocolate coins wrapped in gold colored tin foil.
or he just sold Manhattan…
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jcm Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:35:01pm |
re: #93 gtrs
“A FUCKING OBAMA APOLOGIST IMBECILE”?; boy, that wacko sure doesn’t read THIS site much!……………………/
Charles has sure been serving a lot of kool-aid lately………..
/
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sbvft contributor Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:35:02pm |
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:35:06pm |
For all you Atlanta Brave Fans :
ATLANTA (AP) - The Braves acquired All-Star center fielder Nate McLouth from the Pittsburgh Pirates for three minor leaguers on Wednesday, a move to beef up Atlanta’s offense in hopes of contending in the NL East.
The 27-year-old McLouth was an All-Star last season and set career highs with a .276 average, 26 homers and 94 RBIs. The Braves desperately needed more offense from an outfield that produced only 10 homers through the first 51 games.
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Right Brain Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:35:22pm |
Is anyone besides me wondering if Obama is stoned? Klonopin? Xanax?
Kennedy was stoned through-out his presidency, maybe Mr. Mellow is too.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:35:31pm |
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jim in virginia Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:35:34pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:35:49pm |
re: #78 Gus 802
Yep, I saw that.
/Are you related to Fritz the Cat?
No, but I have a stock tip for you…
Invest in beauty cream.
/keep that on the down-low, though
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:36:39pm |
re: #39 MandyManners
EEK! A MOUSE!
It’s not the mouse itself; Ahmadinejad saw a “made in Israel” label on the mouse.
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VegasRick Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:36:53pm |
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Gus Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:37:19pm |
re: #105 Slumbering Behemoth
No, but I have a stock tip for you…
Invest in beauty cream.
/keep that on the down-low, though
D’oh!
/New formula.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:37:32pm |
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Ringo the Gringo Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:37:36pm |
Obama can wear that necklace when he and King Abdullah dance naked with Dick Cheney beside the bonfire at Bohemian Grove next month.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:37:51pm |
re: #97 Killgore Trout
“we gotta git a a bigger boat”
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jim in virginia Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:38:18pm |
re: #102 Right Brain
Is anyone besides me wondering if Obama is stoned? Klonopin? Xanax?
Kennedy was stoned through-out his presidency, maybe Mr. Mellow is too.
Ibogaine.
(Obscure HS Thompson reference.)
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Cato the Elder Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:38:20pm |
I’m so glad I voted for Obama.
The vid of a geriatric McCain bowing to receive this medal, straightening up, overbalancing, pitching ass-backwards onto the carpet, head hitting an ottoman, and Sarah Palin jumping in to grab the bling and dash out the door would have been just too embarrassing.
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quickjustice Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:38:38pm |
We just sold Hummer to the Chinese. Of course, Clinton let that U.S. satellite company sell its guidance technology to the Chinese.
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VegasRick Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:38:56pm |
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:39:34pm |
No accord reached in U.N. talks on N. Korea resolution+
[Link: www.breitbart.com…]
Yup this UN thing is working out real swell so far? Paging Susan Rice Paging Susan Rice?
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John Neverbend Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:39:41pm |
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albusteve Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:39:41pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:40:35pm |
re: #114 Cato the Elder
I posted this earlier….
Obama Gets Frustrated At Handlers, Five Guys Crowd Goes Nuts As He Arrives (VIDEO)
It’s worth watching. I have many disagreements with the guy but I’m proud to have him as my president.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:40:45pm |
re: #117 buzzsawmonkey
Actually, Obama prostrated himself, but the reports were bowdlerized.
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You really want to get that down-ding, don’cha? ;)
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:40:58pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:41:09pm |
The real point of this post, in case it needs to be spelled out, is that EVERY American president bows to King Abdullah.
They have us by the gas pumps.
Ranting and raving about Obama this, Obama that, completely misses the point.
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gtrs Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:41:19pm |
re: #101 Nevergiveup we have to get francoeur off the snide; his head is all messed up i think
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nyc redneck Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:41:47pm |
re: #114 Cato the Elder
I’m so glad I voted for Obama.
The vid of a geriatric McCain bowing to receive this medal, straightening up, overbalancing, pitching ass-backwards onto the carpet, head hitting an ottoman, and Sarah Palin jumping in to grab the bling and dash out the door would have been just too embarrassing.
they certainly wouldn’t be flopping all over the m.e. (and world) groveling and apologizing for america.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:41:54pm |
re: #125 Charles
The real point of this post, in case it needs to be spelled out, is that EVERY American president bows to King Abdullah.
They have us by the gas pumps.
Ranting and raving about Obama this, Obama that, completely misses the point.
We don’t need no stinkin’ facts!
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VegasRick Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:42:51pm |
re: #121 Killgore Trout
I posted this earlier….
Obama Gets Frustrated At Handlers, Five Guys Crowd Goes Nuts As He Arrives (VIDEO)It’s worth watching. I have many disagreements with the guy but I’m proud to have him as my president.
I think I’ll pass.
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justdanny Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:43:15pm |
re: #68 Charles
“Living in their pools they soon forget about the sea….”
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HoosierHoops Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:43:16pm |
re: #100 sbvft contributor
Kind of like Obama’s Special Olympics’ schtick.
I can’t believe you posted that…Do you know anything about the special Olympics? How do you tie that into an insult?
If the President of the United States wants to talk up Special Olympics..You should just shut the hell up…
sorry Charles…Sore spot
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oh_dude Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:43:24pm |
OK, so the dude doesn’t accomplish anything and wins the presidency and now he gets a medal. For doing what?!
I’m telling ya, the shit is rigged!
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poteen Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:43:33pm |
Just an aside.
Back just before the 84 Olympics, I did some work on huge high end house in OC. The owner was supposedly a “Saudi prince” building a place to entertain his friends during the Olympics. The security alarm contractor, an acquaintance of mine, who is Jewish, identified him as then prince Abdullah. Said he was an “OK guy”.
He met him. I didn’t and neither of us can remember seeing flowing robes on anyone who showed up at the site. And nobody bowed.
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jim in virginia Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:43:38pm |
Dennis Miller on O’Reilly:
The Muslim world is one of the few in the world where you can refer to them as medieval and be talking about their heyday.
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John Neverbend Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:43:48pm |
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brookly red Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:44:38pm |
re: #132 HoosierHoops
I can’t believe you posted that…Do you know anything about the special Olympics? How do you tie that into an insult?
If the President of the United States wants to talk up Special Olympics..You should just shut the hell up…
sorry Charles…Sore spot
pssst. he wasn’t talking it up…
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justdanny Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:44:53pm |
re: #127 Iron Fist
Good to see you posting. Momma is worried about you.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:45:17pm |
re: #136 John Neverbend
Probably, but an easy field for the third baseman.
I was being sarcastic. it was hit not so hard
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:46:12pm |
re: #125 Charles
The real point of this post, in case it needs to be spelled out, is that EVERY American president bows to King Abdullah.
They have us by the gas pumps.
Ranting and raving about Obama this, Obama that, completely misses the point.
And they still depend on us for protection. it’s a mutual dependency. We should just take a few hints from the mafia and charge more.
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VegasRick Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:46:46pm |
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VioletTiger Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:46:47pm |
re: #25 screaming_eagle
I hope the medal is worth alot of money. The US treasury needs all the money it can get.
Didn’t he give it back? I thought it was just a ceremony thing because je handed it back to somebody.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:47:35pm |
re: #143 VioletTiger
Don’t all those gifts go into the National Archives?
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HoosierHoops Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:47:55pm |
re: #137 brookly red
pssst. he wasn’t talking it up…
whaaaa? he was dissing it? Got a linky? Nobody disses the special olympics around me..
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John Neverbend Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:48:34pm |
re: #139 Nevergiveup
I was being sarcastic. it was hit not so hard
I was being polite, as I couldn’t remember. The new stadium is good, except for the water-filled bottles which they call “beer” and sell for $9.
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screaming_eagle Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:48:52pm |
re: #143 VioletTiger
Didn’t he give it back? I thought it was just a ceremony thing because je handed it back to somebody.
With as much money as the USA spends on Saudi oil, he better keep it.
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sbvft contributor Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:49:01pm |
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Cato the Elder Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:49:02pm |
re: #143 VioletTiger
Didn’t he give it back? I thought it was just a ceremony thing because je handed it back to somebody.
He handed it to an aide for “safekeeping”. It would be an extreme insult to give it back.
I don’t know exactly what the protocol is for gifts like this, but there is one. Maybe it’s different for every president. I’ll bet most bling like this ends up in presidential libraries.
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hazzyday Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:49:06pm |
It looks like the handshake is between equals. Pres Obama is just trying to be polite here and make the medal easier to put on. I would probably do the same thing. I certainly wouldn’t be impolite. But what is the medal for?
There was an older video where I thought I saw him bow. Pres Obama is a newbie to foreign relations and protocol. He can be taken advantage of. Hopefully he doesn’t get blindsided here at Cairo like Rome did.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:49:29pm |
re: #146 John Neverbend
I was being polite, as I couldn’t remember. The new stadium is good, except for the water-filled bottles which they call “beer” and sell for $9.
They sell many beers there. Which beer didn’t taste so good to ya?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:49:51pm |
re: #147 Iron Fist
I’m not going to die. I’m too mean to die :-)
That’s what my dad says about me. And what I say about him.
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brookly red Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:50:08pm |
re: #145 HoosierHoops
whaaaa? he was dissing it? Got a linky? Nobody disses the special olympics around me..
no link, but it goes back to his poor bowling skills… he compared his performance to the special olympics. not cool.
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VioletTiger Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:50:33pm |
re: #144 freetoken
Don’t all those gifts go into the National Archives?
I thought so. In the clip I saw he handed it back to somebody, maybe for safekeeping.
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justdanny Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:50:42pm |
re: #147 Iron Fist
I’m not going to die. I’m too mean to die :-)
Death comes to you and decides to keep on walking. So many easy pickings, why bother with such a handful!
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jcm Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:51:09pm |
re: #150 Cato the Elder
He handed it to an aide for “safekeeping”. It would be an extreme insult to give it back.
I don’t know exactly what the protocol is for gifts like this, but there is one. Maybe it’s different for every president. I’ll bet most bling like this ends up in presidential libraries.
IIRC (dim memory) I read that for some items when a state visit is reciprocated the protocol office will have the gift on display in the Oval Office. Of course everyone know it’s just there for the visit, but diplo proto can be really weird at times.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:51:23pm |
re: #153 Nevergiveup
They sell many beers there. Which beer didn’t taste so good to ya?
Aside from a couple of high-end Belgian private labels, I can’t think of a beer that tastes good enough to be worth nine bucks.
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tradewind Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:51:39pm |
Meanwhile, back home in ’ one of the largest muslim nations in the world ’
Material seized from Muhammad’s truck and apartment — including guns, ammunition and Molotov cocktails — led federal agents to caution that copycat attacks could not be ruled out.An FBI-Homeland Security intelligence assessment document obtained by The Associated Press today suggested Muhammad, of Little Rock, may have considered targeting other locations, including Jewish and Christian sites.
Any military recruiting sites should be on alert. Maybe the Muslim Brotherhood audience can give BHO some suggestions for keeping the peace back here.
[Link: www.commercialappeal.com…]
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:51:47pm |
If the Saudis have us by the gas pumps, then the Chinese must have us by the fortune cookies.
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VegasRick Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:51:53pm |
re: #157 brookly red
no link, but it goes back to his poor bowling skills… he compared his performance to the special olympics. not cool.
The links are there. I’d get one for you but I’m at work. On Leno I think.
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shiplord kirel Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:51:58pm |
I for one believe that Barry is doing just what he should be doing: collecting tribute from these brigands. Now, if he and his Secret Service detail can figure out a way to abscond with the palace flatware, we will be on our way to an equitable relationship with these third world ingrates.
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VioletTiger Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:52:13pm |
re: #148 screaming_eagle
With as much money as the USA spends on Saudi oil, he better keep it.
It did look like quite the bling. Wonder if it was solid gold……
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jcm Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:52:41pm |
re: #162 tradewind
Meanwhile, back home in ’ one of the largest muslim nations in the world ‘
Obama spoke to soon, the ‘10 ACORN census of the 57 States isn’t complete yet.
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screaming_eagle Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:53:15pm |
re: #165 shiplord kirel
I for one believe that Barry is doing just what he should be doing: collecting tribute from these brigands. Now, if he and his Secret Service detail can figure out a way to abscond with the palace flatware, we will be on our way to an equitable relationship with these third world ingrates.
Their bath-towels are usually fancy too.He needs to grab a few of them.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:53:17pm |
03:31 World Bank: Israeli actions curb Palestinian economic growth (Reuters
So maybe Israel should finance the making of the Katusha Rockets also? Assholes.
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John Neverbend Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:53:48pm |
re: #153 Nevergiveup
They sell many beers there. Which beer didn’t taste so good to ya?
Bud, I think. It was the cost that was particularly distasteful.
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:53:55pm |
re: #156 taxfreekiller
He better hand it off the William Ayers to keep him quite on the real deal of what Obama and Ayers talked about all those years.
IMO
The fly on the wall knows. We should find the fly.
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hazzyday Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:53:55pm |
re: #125 Charles
The real point of this post, in case it needs to be spelled out, is that EVERY American president bows to King Abdullah.
They have us by the gas pumps.
Ranting and raving about Obama this, Obama that, completely misses the point.
Yah if someone is really concerned about this, they should stop driving a car and get a bike or ride the bus and make a statement. Walk out on Saudi and Venuezuelan oil.
I think Pres Obama is politically compromised though. He has to lead all. His past associations are chock full of instances where leadership is just a power grab and spoils. I have a skeptical eye about Pres. Obama.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:54:11pm |
re: #161 Cato the Elder
Aside from a couple of high-end Belgian private labels, I can’t think of a beer that tastes good enough to be worth nine bucks.
I don’t know the price anymore, and I don’t drink anymore, but when I did a pint of Trappist Ale certainly was worth the punch.
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tradewind Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:54:11pm |
re: #167 jcm
He’s pretty confident that the stats from Detroitistan and surrounds will come through and back up his statement.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:54:18pm |
re: #147 Iron Fist
I’m not going to die. I’m too mean to die :-)
When it is my time to go Death is going to call ahead and say he will have to cancel, family emergency and all. ;)
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brookly red Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:54:22pm |
re: #171 Nevergiveup
03:31 World Bank: Israeli actions curb Palestinian economic growth (Reuters
So maybe Israel should finance the making of the Katusha Rockets also? Assholes.
/no thats covered in the stimulis…
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HoosierHoops Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:54:40pm |
re: #157 brookly red
no link, but it goes back to his poor bowling skills… he compared his performance to the special olympics. not cool.
Not cool
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John Neverbend Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:54:43pm |
re: #161 Cato the Elder
Aside from a couple of high-end Belgian private labels, I can’t think of a beer that tastes good enough to be worth nine bucks.
Right. You have no choice, as you can’t bring your own beer into the stadium.
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Nevergiveup Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:54:46pm |
re: #172 John Neverbend
Bud, I think. It was the cost that was particularly distasteful.
Yeah I hear ya.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:55:35pm |
re: #180 John Neverbend
Right. You have no choice, as you can’t bring your own beer into the stadium.
I know.
And then everybody gets up before the game and sings about the land of the free.
Sigh.
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hazzyday Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:56:22pm |
re: #157 brookly red
no link, but it goes back to his poor bowling skills… he compared his performance to the special olympics. not cool.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:56:55pm |
re: #159 justdanny
Because I would not stop for death
Death kindly stopped for me.
-Emily Dickinson. Can be sung to the Gilligan’s Island theme.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:57:10pm |
re: #125 Charles
Very logical of you… but … you’re asking too much of the populace, and even some of the lizards, aren’t you?
I’m being somewhat serious.
How many times have we seen total failure at reading comprehension? How many times have we seen commenters whose writings are, to put it generously, composed primarily of non-sequiturs?
I have never liked IQ tests, and feel that references to “IQ”, “intelligence” and so on are given to inflate the writer’s estimation of himself… but I do accept that some people are just plain dense. They really don’t think clearly, perhaps they can’t think clearly.
I could visit any of a number of blogs which are posting today about Obama’s trip, his statement about Muslims in America, and sundry other topics and pull out mind-numbing examples, one after the other.
Would it do any good? I doubt it. I really, really don’t know whether it is a moral failing on the part of some, or if it is truly an issue with comprehending complex issues.
Agree with your statement… it is going to be a long summer.
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captdiggs Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:57:12pm |
Wasn’t one of the excuses ( of several) given by the White House after the original “bow”, that he had to in order to shake the (shorter) king’s hand?
If anything, the video shows that the first “bow” was the real thing.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:57:36pm |
re: #184 Jim in Virginia
Because I would not stop for death
Death kindly stopped for me.-Emily Dickinson. Can be sung to the Gilligan’s Island theme.
Damn you! Now I’ll never be able to read that poem again!
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John Neverbend Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:57:51pm |
re: #175 Walter L. Newton
I don’t know the price anymore, and I don’t drink anymore, but when I did a pint of Trappist Ale certainly was worth the punch.
Yes, Trappist brews are usually excellent. I remember drinking Trappist wine from the Latroun monastery near Jerusalem. It was good stuff.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:57:56pm |
re: #114 Cato the Elder
I’m so glad I voted for Obama.
Wow, really? For insulting the British? For insulting our MOH winners at his inauguration? For inviting Iran to our embassies on the 4th of July?
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hazzyday Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:58:17pm |
re: #183 hazzyday
He is showing his insensitivity when he does this. His Racial and Social justice community activist neglected his education here.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:59:21pm |
re: #188 Cato the Elder
Damn you! Now I’ll never be able to read that poem again!
My work here is done…..
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HoosierHoops Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:00:10pm |
re: #191 hazzyday
He is showing his insensitivity when he does this. His Racial and Social justice community activist neglected his education here.
very disturbing…What was he thinking?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:00:18pm |
re: #192 Jim in Virginia
My work here is done…..
I probably won’t be able to get that tune out of my head for a week.
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restitutor orbis Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:09:04pm |
Too bad I wasn’t the president. I would have melted that peice of shit down, sold it and donated the proceeds to a disabled vets organization. And I would have told that filthy degenerate exactly what I was about to do.
Then I would have told that savage his evil backward “kingdom” was about to face a reckoning of fire.
But thats just me.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:23pm |
re: #195 restitutor orbis
Too bad I wasn’t the president. I would have melted that peice of shit down, sold it and donated the proceeds to a disabled vets organization. And I would have told that filthy degenerate exactly what I was about to do.
Then I would have told that savage his evil backward “kingdom” was about to face a reckoning of fire.
But thats just me.
And then, Saudi Arabia would have cut off oil shipments to the United States, and our economy would have ground to a halt.
Oops.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:33:19pm |
Ah, but you never mentioned that the medal he’s receiving in the video was the grand prize for winning the bowing contest.
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dadaist Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:39:08pm |
I hear that secret Muslims have medals instead of nirth certificates.
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_RememberTonyC Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:39:14pm |
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Etaoin Shrdlu Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:40:50pm |
I wouldn’t accept a medal from King Abdullah.
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_RememberTonyC Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:05pm |
re: #197 Abu Al-Poopypants
Ah, but you never mentioned that the medal he’s receiving in the video was the grand prize for winning the bowing contest.
we know it couldn’t have been for winning a bowling contest!
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hazzyday Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:28pm |
OT: NBC still thinks Bin Laden is alive and implies Pres Obama thinks so also.
I would just officially declare Bin Laden dead. If he is alive he’ll say so.
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kiwiviv Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:55pm |
But Obama DID say that America is one of the biggest Muslim countries in the world.
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kiwiviv Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:43:55pm |
re: #203 kiwiviv
But Obama DID say that America is one of the biggest Muslim countries in the world.
[Link: washingtontimes.com…]
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justdanny Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:54:11pm |
Bowing or not, I dont really care. Because Obama represents to me the grand finale of the complete stupification of America. When the electorate voted not for the best person for the job, but against a person who wasnt even running. George Bush.
Obama represents to me the beginning of the end the America that I love. Like a big paddle smoothing down all the peaks and valleys of this countries greatness.
An angry cousin told me, “You aint voting for him because he’s black. I know you Republicans. I know how ya’ll are.”
I said, “That he’s black doesnt bother me a bit, there are plenty of well qualified black people who would make fine presidents. I’m not voting him because he’s green. And because he is a ultra liberal idiot.”
No matter your religion or political affiliations, if your key focus is LIBERTY for all, we can find common ground.
My liberty, our liberty, is the last concern on Obamas mind.
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gulfloafer Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:26pm |
What exactly did he do/accomplish to receive a medal? I’d have opted for a Rolex or something?/
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kiwiviv Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:29pm |
re: #206 gulfloafer
What exactly did he do/accomplish to receive a medal? I’d have opted for a Rolex or something?/
I think everyone has been telling us that he got it as the winner of the BOWING contest
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theheat Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:35pm |
re: #195 restitutor orbis
And I would have told that filthy degenerate exactly what I was about to do.
That’s one of those “sounds on good paper” ideas, also known as cutting off your nose to spite your face. We have to maintain at least a veneer of civility so we can have enough petrol to attend all our 4th of July picnics, get to work, transport goods, mow our lawns, harvest our corn, keep the economy moving, get the kids to school, stuff like that. Sad, but true.
The bowing is bad enough when they do it, but the kissing and hugging really adds to the gag factor for me. Thankfully, we may be at least spared that much this time around. Alas, the day is young.
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CTUCandyVendor Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:01:06pm |
The POTUS should not accept medals from other world leaders. Just like the bowing, it conveys a role of lesser stature on the receiver IMHO. Am I the only one who feels this way?
On the bowing issue, it’s wrong even if Bush and every other president before him did it. Maybe he didn’t bow this time because there was quite a stir about it last time he did it? So even if it was considered hypocritical of some attackers, maybe the fervor over it was a good thing if it put an end to the dhimmi bow?
It’s one thing to make the correction that Bush did it too, but the tone seems to convey “Bush did it too, so you should all shut up about it and give Obama a break.” (assuming it is even an active topic anymore that conservatives need to be saved from embarrassing themselves on). If anything, rather then making the point about Bush to squash all the criticism of O (which is what this regurgitated topic feels like), the point should be Obama carries on a bad tradition which needs to end now. It is definitely not apparent that the REAL meaning of the post is how we are all subordinate.
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yenta-fada Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:11pm |
re: #205 justdanny
Charisma, the race card and human stupidity made Obama the president. I agree that Obama does not care about freedom for all Americans. Obama can only think about himself.
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jayzee Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:48pm |
But I thought he HAD to do something that looked like a bow when he shook the king’s hand because the king is so much shorter than him. Right? Didn’t that used to be the case?
“It wasn’t a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he’s taller than King Abdullah,” said an Obama aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
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shaker Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:05pm |
Didn’t Obama say during the campaign that we shouldn’t buy oil from people who don’t like us? Why is he now receiving gifts from such people?
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avanti Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:12:01pm |
re: #121 Killgore Trout
I posted this earlier….
Obama Gets Frustrated At Handlers, Five Guys Crowd Goes Nuts As He Arrives (VIDEO)It’s worth watching. I have many disagreements with the guy but I’m proud to have him as my president.
We can all agree that the likability was a big part of his win. Like it or not, the average voter votes for the guy they like best. I get that folks hate his politics, but not so much the personal hate. I did not like much of Bushes politics, but could not understand the hatred from the left either. Bush was a class act, even though we disagreed politically.
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zimriel Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:00pm |
re: #196 Charles
And then, Saudi Arabia would have cut off oil shipments to the United States, and our economy would have ground to a halt.
Oops.
We get most of our oil from the Americas. Petrol prices in these here Colonies would go up a bit. That’s all.
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Irenicum Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:43pm |
re: #114 Cato the Elder
OK, you almost made me spit out my Guinness with that one! Now I have this great image in my head!
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Beholden Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:38pm |
He should have worn his “bow” tie. It goes much better with bling of that magnitude.
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Irenicum Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:38:34pm |
re: #121 Killgore Trout
I hadn’t seen that. Thanks for posting it.
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zimriel Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:59pm |
There are a few reasons we bow to the Saudis. Grinding the US economy to a halt directly isn’t one of them. But -
1. Saudi occupies the Hijaz, currently; and the Hijaz is where Mecca and Medina are. So whenever we do something that gets Saudi robes in a twist, that gets spun as “disrespect for Islam”.
2. Saudi is in a strategic location. It’s got the Red Sea (read: Suez) on the west. It’s got the Persian Gulf (read: Mesopotamia’s outlet) on the east. So losing Saudi to our enemies blocks off a lot of the world’s commerce. It would suck for our troops in Iraq too; how to supply them if the Gulf is down?
3. The Near East serves Mitteleuropa. Saudi can’t kill our economy; but, arguably, they can kill Germany’s. That might cause a knock-on effect on the rest of the world.
As for the “reckoning of fire” comment, that’s crazy talk, and shame on the original poster for descending to that.
But we should plan for a worst-case scenario, and that would affect the points 1-3 made above. The US, assuming competent leadership, has enough resilience that the worst-case wouldn’t destroy us. We’d have some leeway to weather the storm until we got an energy policy and good enough defence capabilities to manage the outcome.
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_RememberTonyC Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:45:51pm |
“I was against my muslim roots before I was for them.”
~Barack Hussein Kerry
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Irenicum Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:46:37pm |
re: #161 Cato the Elder
Two French Canadian beers come to mind: La Fin Du Monde and Maudite. Both are exceptional, though I prefer Maudite.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:46:38pm |
re: #216 zimriel
We get most of our oil from the Americas. Petrol prices in these here Colonies would go up a bit. That’s all.
Uh — if you don’t think it would hurt the US economy beyond “petrol prices going up a bit” for us to lose the approximately 1.5 million barrels of oil we get from Saudi Arabia every day, I don’t know what to tell you.
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Irenicum Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:50:23pm |
re: #175 Walter L. Newton
Trappist Ales are definitely are worth the price!
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Irenicum Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:54:13pm |
re: #188 Cato the Elder
Here’s my rule. If you make me laugh, you get an upding.
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Irenicum Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:56:40pm |
re: #195 restitutor orbis
um, maybe that’s why you’re not the president?
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avspatti Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:02:01pm |
re: #102 Right Brain
Is anyone besides me wondering if Obama is stoned? Klonopin? Xanax?
Kennedy was stoned through-out his presidency, maybe Mr. Mellow is too.
Bad back?
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BLBfootballs Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:02:09pm |
The President’s awkwardness feels palpable. Not sure if that’s a good thing or not.
But that necklace deserves its own fashion crimes tribunal!
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claire Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:13:39pm |
re: #223 Charles
Uh — if you don’t think it would hurt the US economy beyond “petrol prices going up a bit” for us to lose the approximately 1500 barrels of oil we get from Saudi Arabia every day, I don’t know what to tell you.
I think its closer to 1.5 million barrels a day.
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claire Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:15:41pm |
re: #229 claire
And that’s around 5 or 6% of the oil we use everyday, I think.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:16:44pm |
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poteen Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:24:36pm |
re: #231 Charles
On the west coast our imported oil comes from Canada, Mexico and Venezuela. I’m happy as long as Obama never bows to Chavez.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:29:24pm |
My point stands — if Saudi Arabia cut off all oil shipments to the US, the effect on our economy would be disastrous. Of course, it would also be disastrous to their economy, which is why fantasies about telling the Saudis to take a long walk off a short pier are just that — fantasies.
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odorlesspaintthinner Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:32:51pm |
Bow or no bow, Obama is bowing to the whole Arab world, pressuring the Israelis on settlements because the Arabs claim to need YET ANOTHER Israeli gesture (giving back the Temple Mount, the Sinai Peninsula, and the Gaza Strip not good enough). The Saudis want a return to the 1967 borders and Israel to allow back so-called “Palestinian” “refugees.” (No mention of why no Jews are allowed in “Palestinian” areas, that’s just understood, right?)
It’s all well and good that Obama has made some cosmetic improvements since his election, but he’s driving full force to “solve” the problem of Middle East peace, and for the Arabs that means “solve the problem of Israel.”
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poteen Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:38:19pm |
re: #233 Charles
No disagreement. Just pointing out that mid-east oil affects CA prices minimally. It WOULD be a big problem for us and economic suicide for them to stop exports. They won’t.
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bagua Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:06:41pm |
Darn, late to the thread.
Bush’s medal receipt was a proper, formal bow.
Obama just bobs his head to receive the medal, reaching for it with his hands at first. Very disrespectful when compared to Bush.
Obama is not showing proper obeisance to the King according to the Bush precedent.
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Claire Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:11:12pm |
re: #235 poteen
Yes, it would be if they stopped ALL imports. If they just stopped selling to us, we probably wouldn’t even notice, we would just make it up elsewhere. However, if they stopped selling ALL they produce to other countries because they can’t get it out of the Gulf for some reason, or they decide to do another embargo, then the world-wide shortage would definitely jack up prices for everybody. A shortage in a world market affects the pool from which everyone imports as far as supply and demand, if that makes sense. That would be a disaster. Sky high prices and gas lines at stations just like during the 70’s. It isn’t the oil they send us. It’s the oil they send all of us. And that’s why we are so concerned about maintaining that particular flow of oil thru the Mideast.
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garden18 Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:31:57pm |
No Jews are allowed inside Saudi Arabia. No one should shake the hand of the anti-Semitic Arab who rules that country.
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kateca Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:59:52pm |
Doesn’t the O get briefed on foreign customs when he travels? Didn’t anyone tell Michelle that it isn’t proper to embrace the Queen? All new Presidents need briefings when they travel abroad. Does he ignore them or flaunt them?
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infidel4ever Wed, Jun 3, 2009 10:23:02pm |
Drive by post:
King Abdullajh must have grown since the last time they met. Now they can suddenly shake hands without Obama bowing…
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Wendya Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:41:35pm |
re: #208 theheat
Thankfully, we may be at least spared that much this time around. Alas, the day is young.
Funny how the media didn’t take a thousand pictures of the kiss….
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Wendya Wed, Jun 3, 2009 11:43:43pm |
re: #228 BLBfootballs
But that necklace deserves its own fashion crimes tribunal!
I’ve got some Saudi jewelry that almost makes that look sedate.
Seriously, they have some godawful tacky stuff.
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golf and ski Thu, Jun 4, 2009 4:25:27am |
The King must have grown. Obama bowed last time because the King was so short.
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The Drizzle Thu, Jun 4, 2009 6:33:28am |
Flavor Flav wouldnt wear a chain that big. I think they were trying to make Chicagoland Jesus look stupid. At least Obama apoligized for all of the sins of the west. Mission accomplished!
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ExCamelJockey Thu, Jun 4, 2009 7:09:52am |
Yup, no bow here. … but last time, he took a dive. Had he bowed any farther he would have had to drop to a knee.
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jmaimarc Thu, Jun 4, 2009 10:06:57am |
Begging your pardon, Charles, it’s not a medal, or a chain, it’s:
The King Abdul Aziz Collar
Leash and obedience training to come.
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A.W. Thu, Jun 4, 2009 1:47:27pm |
Um, okay assuming you are being straight and not sarcastic, seriously, Charles, WTF?
You’re right, bending your head to recieve a medal is not a bow. But that’s not what you said back when when you claimed Bush had bowed. The contradiction literally couldn’t be clearer.
So first time, Obama bowed. This time, Obama will make sure there is no cameras around when he bows (assuming he doesn’t give the full lewinsky).
Its not the biggest deal in the world, but let’s stop falling all over ourselves to make excuses for this guy. Yes, yes, even though i don’t like him, he is my president and deserves a chance to succeed. But not slavish sychophancy.
And bluntly, i think you owe us an apology on the subject. don’t be like dan rather, who when confronted with clear evidence of being wrong, just dug in.
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enormodome Thu, Jun 4, 2009 4:58:33pm |
Full-on nightmare. Make no mistake. America was Great while it lasted. Wow. It’s over.
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Honcho Thu, Jun 4, 2009 5:59:49pm |
In Muslim tradition, men do not wear gold, only cologne. So what the King is saying to the Muslim World is: I have a new whore.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 5, 2009 1:07:07pm |
re: #247 A.W.
And bluntly, i think you owe us an apology on the subject.
I hope you’re not holding your breath for that. The outrage from the right wing over Obama’s “bowgate” was idiotic, and achieved nothing except to make all the people yelling and screaming about it look like fools.
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