RIP, Pvt. William Andrew Long

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The Associated Press has a respectful piece about the murder of Pvt. William Andrew Long: Soldier’s family sought quiet in Arkansas.

CONWAY, Ark. (AP) — The father of a soldier slain outside a recruiting center sought a quiet life for his family in rural Arkansas after years of military service, but the battlefield came home to find them.

Daris Long’s son, Army Pvt. William Andrew Long, was shot Monday in suburban Little Rock while he stood and smoked a cigarette, far from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Long, 23, died in an attack that also wounded Pvt. Quinton I. Ezeagwula, 18. The alleged gunman, Abdulhakim Muhammad, also 23, told investigators he wanted to kill as many Army personnel as he could “because of what they had done to Muslims in the past,” police said.

But Ezeagwula and Long had never seen battle. Both only completed basic training recently and had volunteered to help attract others into military service. Long was heading to South Korea, not even the Middle East, for his service.

“He was a hero. The other young lad that’s in the hospital, he’s a hero,” Daris Long told Little Rock television station KATV. “They weren’t on the battlefield, but apparently, the battlefield’s here.”

Private Long’s father doesn’t trust the media — a very appropriate and healthy attitude to have:

Daris Long spoke about his son reluctantly. Long said he mistrusted reporters, stemming from his time in Somalia during the American intervention there in the 1990s and saying he didn’t like coverage of the 2008 presidential election.

Indeed.

The suspect in Long’s killing, Abdulhakim Muhammad, may have been planning a larger jihad rampage before he decided to shoot two soldiers outside that Little Rock recruiting office:

Questions remain about what route Muhammad, a Muslim convert, took before the shooting. Material seized from Muhammad’s truck and apartment — including guns, ammunition and Molotov cocktails — led federal agents to caution that copycat attacks could not be ruled out.

An FBI-Homeland Security intelligence assessment document obtained by The Associated Press on Wednesday suggested Muhammad, of Little Rock, may have considered targeting other locations, including Jewish and Christian sites.

The FBI said Muhammad “conducted Internet searches related to different locations in several U.S. cities” including Atlanta, Little Rock, Louisville, Ky., Memphis, Tenn., New York and Philadelphia and notified authorities in those locations.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said investigators found Google Earth images of various places, including Times Square. In Atlanta, FBI Agent Stephen Emmett said Muhammad had information regarding a “Jewish entity within our jurisdiction.”

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513 comments
1 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:56:00pm

A heroes life cut short.

2 tradewind  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:56:03pm

“They weren’t on the battlefield, but apparently, the battlefield’s here.”


The money quote.

3 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:57:10pm

Thank you for this thread, Charles.

Rest in peace, William Andrew Long.

4 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:57:41pm

Thank you for remembering this hero Charles. He has not been remembered nearly enough in the media.

5 brookly red  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:57:41pm

“the battlefield came home to find them.” Wow.

6 irongrampa  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:57:42pm

God be with you, my brother.

7 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:57:52pm
8 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:58:08pm

A shame his commander-in-chief, he of the Muslim roots, has yet to acknowledge his murder.

9 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:58:14pm

His video is worth watching also:

[Link: www.blackfive.net…]

10 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:58:47pm

Respect and Honor for doing the tough stuff!
I “Salute” you my brother!
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11 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:58:51pm

re: #2 tradewind

“They weren’t on the battlefield, but apparently, the battlefield’s here.”


The money quote.

Bingo. About to post that myself. 2nd on the list -
Daris Long spoke about his son reluctantly. Long said he mistrusted reporters, stemming from his time in Somalia during the American intervention there in the 1990s and saying he didn’t like coverage of the 2008 presidential election.

12 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:59:06pm

re: #8 JammieWearingFool

A shame his commander-in-chief, he of the Muslim roots, has yet to acknowledge his murder.

I have no pride in this Commander in Chief …none at all.

13 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 5:59:57pm

re: #8 JammieWearingFool

A shame his commander-in-chief, he of the Muslim roots, has yet to acknowledge his murder.

Yep, we are now allowed to say that.

14 NelsFree  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:00:07pm

I hope I speak for Many Veterans on this blog who will say a silent prayer and remember the price of freedom is never cheap. I also hope that justice, this time, will be swift and appropriate.

15 ted  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:00:43pm

What a tragedy. Totally ignored by the MSM(spit).

16 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:00:54pm

re: #8 JammieWearingFool

A shame his commander-in-chief, he of the Muslim roots, has yet to acknowledge his murder.

certainly, any other president would have, immediately.
god bless this young soldier.

17 wiffersnapper  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:01:09pm

He will be missed.

18 tradewind  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:01:16pm

re: #7 buzzsawmonkey

… I had just posted that link on the previous thread, and Charles had obviously been preparing to start one on it at the same time. It’s a significant story not only because of the tribute to the fallen GI, but because of the ominous implications buried in the middle of the piece re the plans of the suspect and his possible accomplices waiting in the wings with more of the same.

19 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:01:18pm
20 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:01:27pm

re: #12 pink freud

I have no pride in this Commander in Chief …none at all.

Oh, don’t let Killgore or Avanti hear you say that! NONE at all indeed.

21 callahan23  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:02:16pm

Rest in Peace, Pvt. William Andrew Long.
My thoughts go out to his family and his wounded comrade and family, may you find peace.

22 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:02:37pm

I notice that as I was writing this post, a couple of people were complaining in the previous thread that I was ignoring this story.

I’d like to invite those people, very cordially, to bite me.

23 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:02:44pm

re: #13 VegasRick

Yep, we are now allowed to say that.

You just did.

24 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:03:18pm

This young soldier is as much a war casualty as those who fall in Iraq and Afghanistan. At the very least Privates Long and Ezeagwula should receive Purple Hearts.

25 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:03:30pm

I’ll be in uniform all weekend. I’ll think of Pvt. William Andrew Long. And I am sure his name will be mentioned at muster.

26 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:04:17pm

re: #20 VegasRick

Oh, don’t let Killgore or Avanti hear you say that! NONE at all indeed.

I’m not offended and I don’t like people any less if they don’t have pride in our president. It’s a personal thing, to each his own.

27 tradewind  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:04:26pm

re: #22 Charles

Make sure your vaccinations are up to date first, Charles…
:)

28 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:04:27pm

Rarely noted was the fact George W. Bush wrote personal, handwritten letters of condolence to the families of soliders killed in combat.

Barack Hussein Obama can’t even man up and mention their death at the hands of his (ahem) co-religionists on our own soil.

29 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:04:31pm

I look as this pic and read about him and I have a strong feeling of sadness mixed with anger….another life cut short for no good reason, and he was doing me a favor

30 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:04:42pm

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel

This young soldier is as much a war casualty as those who fall in Iraq and Afghanistan. At the very least Privates Long and Ezeagwula should receive Purple Hearts.

I am sure they will. They were in uniform on orders.

31 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:04:42pm

Leaders only become true Leaders through the respect given by those serving under them!

Our CIC is no leader! I don’t have to wish him to fail…he’s failing without my wishes

32 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:05:26pm

re: #28 JammieWearingFool


Barack Hussein Obama can’t even man up and mention their death at the hands of his (ahem) co-religionists on our own soil.

You’ve really been beating that band the past 48 hours or so.

33 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:05:52pm

re: #7 buzzsawmonkey

We have permitted

Remember the phrase popular among ’60s radicals, including the Weathermen? “Bring the war back home.”

I remember it, through reading history and listening to my father (I’m 31 and was not alive during the 60’s). It’s also worth remembering that one of those who did the most to “bring the war home” became a political mentor to the current president.

34 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:03pm

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

Barack Hussein Obama can’t even man up and mention their death at the hands of his (ahem) co-religionists on our own soil.

/needed repeating.

35 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:17pm

CNN reportedly said that Abdulhakim Muhammad was “upset about the military.” And Tiller’s murderer must have issues with the medical community.

36 sbvft contributor  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:20pm

re: #15 ted

What a tragedy. Totally ignored by the MSM(spit).


Doesn’t fit their agenda. Their military smearing agenda. Their America hating agenda too. Their America-had-it-coming-on-9/11 agenda. Essentially, one and all - Obama’s agenda.

37 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:28pm

re: #12 pink freud

I have no pride in this Commander in Chief …none at all.

he has offered no reason or example to have earned any…superficial, shallow and far more into himself than seems healthy for a POTUS

38 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:47pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

…Until it becomes an issue of partisanship over patriotism. There is a line but opinions are like cowboy hats, everybody has one.

39 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:06:54pm

America’s loss is Heaven’s gain.

40 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:07:09pm
41 anchors_aweigh  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:07:37pm

This is how the enemy fights. Cowardly.

I have an idea. Let’s find a place, outside the US, were the enemy can be held until hostilities are over. Oh wait….

42 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:08:14pm

Thanks for this thread. Although I am old enough to be his father, young men like Private Long are my heroes.

43 Gus  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:08:19pm

Daris Long, father of Pvt. William Long

44 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:08:24pm

re: #37 albusteve

he has offered no reason or example to have earned any…superficial, shallow and far more into himself than seems healthy for a POTUS

I have seen nothing thus far to indicate to me that the man understands the concept of “earned”.

45 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:08:42pm

re: #32 freetoken

You’ve really been beating that band the past 48 hours or so.

Actually, 24 hours. Your point?

46 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:08:52pm

interesting he also had jewish targets on his list.

47 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:08:53pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

…Until it becomes an issue of partisanship over patriotism. There is a line but opinions are like cowboy hats, everybody has one.

BO is the shining champion of partisanship over patriotism…

48 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:09:04pm

re: #15 ted

What a tragedy. Totally ignored by the MSM(spit).

You mean other than the fact that it was splashed all over the headlines on the day it happened?

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:09:05pm

re: #22 Charles

How are you supposed to make posts on a subject that there is very little information/MSM coverage on?

Do they expect you to make post after post consisting of nothing but gross speculation and conspiracy theories? If that’s what they’re looking for, there are plenty of other blogs out there that are completely unconcerned with integrity.

50 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:09:13pm

re: #35 Jim in Virginia

CNN reportedly said that Abdulhakim Muhammad was “upset about the military.” And Tiller’s murderer must have issues with the medical community.

And he would have gotten that feeling from watching TV in jail with the bros?//

Somehow I don’t think this hoodlum watched much news, or could read the newspaper.

51 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:09:29pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

…Until it becomes an issue of partisanship over patriotism. There is a line but opinions are like cowboy hats, everybody has one.

I don’t own a cowboy hat.

52 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:09:33pm

re: #35 Jim in Virginia

CNN reportedly said that Abdulhakim Muhammad was “upset about the military.” And Tiller’s murderer must have issues with the medical community.

Bill O’Reilly used that line too tonight. It’s a good point. Both of these murderers were also religious fanatics and terrorists. In my opinion, they should both be put to death.

53 ted  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:09:57pm

re: #36 sbvft contributor

Doesn’t fit their agenda. Their military smearing agenda. Their America hating agenda too. Their America-had-it-coming-on-9/11 agenda. Essentially, one and all - Obama’s agenda.

Spot on………..

54 brookly red  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:02pm

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

Rarely noted was the fact George W. Bush wrote personal, handwritten letters of condolence to the families of soliders killed in combat.

Barack Hussein Obama can’t even man up and mention their death at the hands of his (ahem) co-religionists on our own soil.

Not that I would want this politicized, but I have a feeling that this lack of acknowledgment will be used against O some where down the road.

55 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:06pm

May you rest peacefully Pvt. William Andrew Long. God bless your family.

56 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:06pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

I’m not offended and I don’t like people any less if they don’t have pride in our president. It’s a personal thing, to each his own.

Our president has the forum and the ability to practically “stop the presses.” It has been days now, and he has made no statement on this killing. Charles has a blog, which reaches only a small percentage of people in comparison to the amount of citizens that Obama can, yet Charles has more decorum, consideration and a love for this country then our president will ever have.

No, I have pride in Charles, I have pride in the Lizards here who post and care about this issue, the president, no, I have not an ounce of pride in him.

And tell me Killgore, where, in regards to this issue, do I find something prideful about the actions (or lack of actions) by our president?

57 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:24pm

re: #40 Iron Fist

We’re supposed to say that America is one of the world’s largest Mohammedan Nations.

Fuck that.

58 ted  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:28pm

re: #48 Hawaii69

You mean other than the fact that it was splashed all over the headlines on the day it happened?

?

59 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:45pm

re: #47 albusteve

You only think that because the DHs memo put you in a FEMA camp after closing your car dealership. Don’t be bitter and clingy.
/C’mon, have some fun with this stuff

60 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:51pm

ATTENTION!
HAND SALUTE!

61 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:52pm
62 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:57pm
63 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:58pm

re: #51 VegasRick

I don’t own a cowboy hat.

Fascist!

64 tradewind  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:10:59pm

re: #46 yochanan

I may be reading too much into it, but I get the distinct impression that the FBI believes he has buddies in other places waiting to pick up where he left off.

65 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:11:28pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

…Until it becomes an issue of partisanship over patriotism. There is a line but opinions are like cowboy hats, everybody has one.

I don’t have a cowboy hat, but that might explain why I received a double shipment of opinions. I’ve got so many of those, I’m giving them away for free.

66 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:11:46pm

re: #54 brookly red

Not that I would want this politicized, but I have a feeling that this lack of acknowledgment will be used against O some where down the road.

Never too early to start, AFAIC.

His silence says it all, doesn’t it?

67 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:11:49pm
68 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:11:53pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

You only think that because the DHs memo put you in a FEMA camp after closing your car dealership. Don’t be bitter and clingy.
/C’mon, have some fun with this stuff

that’s MY cowbot hat!….you get your own!

69 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:11:56pm

re: #45 JammieWearingFool

Actually, 24 hours. Your point?

I’d like to hear that as well.

70 hazzyday  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:08pm

re: #9 Nevergiveup

His video is worth watching also:

[Link: www.blackfive.net…]

That was pretty heart rending. The father makes the statement that needs to be made even while bearing the tragedy.

71 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:16pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

How are you supposed to make posts on a subject that there is very little information/MSM coverage on?

Do they expect you to make post after post consisting of nothing but gross speculation and conspiracy theories? If that’s what they’re looking for, there are plenty of other blogs out there that are completely unconcerned with integrity.

The alternate perspective here is that “making posts on a subject that there is very little information/MSM coverage on” is LGF’s stock in trade. It’s what Charles has always done best here.

72 David Simon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:35pm

re: #29 albusteve

I look as this pic and read about him and I have a strong feeling of sadness mixed with anger….another life cut short for no good reason

Exactly how I feel. What an utterly senseless crime.

73 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:37pm

We fight them over there so they won’t come here, but never forget there are a sprinkling already here.

My thoughts are with this family who has served.

74 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:12:45pm

He was a warrior … even if he didn’t make it to the battlefield … so realwest plays this for his vet buddies that pass over … this is for Pvt. William Andrew Long … see you on the other side brother …

75 jetprop  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:13:03pm

Good thread, Charles. Thanks for posting.

RIP Pvt. Long.

76 anchors_aweigh  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:13:40pm

re: #62 buzzsawmonkey

I have observed here in other contexts that the Civil Rights Movement shifted, prior to King’s death, from an effort to obtain civil rights to a sort of “human rights” grievance theater. Much of that process occurred as both Marxist and Muslim radicals gained prominence in what had been, under King’s leadership, a largely Christian movement.

The Marxist and Muslim radicals have had over 40 years to spread poison in a black community that they consciously turned inward upon itself and away from the participation in the larger society that King had dreamed of. Abdulhakim Muhammad, John Muhammad the Washington sniper, the would-be Bronx bombers, the Liberty City plotters from a year or so ago, Jose “Dirty Bomb” Padilla—we have only just begun to see the results of this indoctrination.

If true, that would mean our current POTUS, was indoctrinated.

Try and wrap your brain around that for a minute.

77 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:13:52pm

/pimf are=is

78 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:13:57pm

I keep reading posts about the terrorist being a prison convert. Where was he imprisioned and when?

He was young to have done much hard time.

He moved to Arkansas from Memphis a few months ago. Before that he lived in Nashville. He’s recently returned from overseas. I wouldn’t have thought that he had time to get radicalized behind bars.

79 callahan23  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:14:00pm

re: #60 jcm

ATTENTION!
HAND SALUTE!

[Video]

Thank you, that video moved me so much.
(jcm)

80 sbvft contributor  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:14:11pm

re: #48 Hawaii69

You mean other than the fact that it was splashed all over the headlines on the day it happened?

Try again:

[Link: hotair.com…]

“A little food for thought from Newsbusters:

At the time of this writing, there are nearly 7,000 references to “George Tiller” in Google News.
There are under 500 for “William Long.”
George Tiller, of course, was the Kansas abortion doctor murdered Sunday morning by a man who allegedly had political and religious motives.
William Long was the 23-year-old military recruiter murdered Monday morning by a man who allegedly had political and religious motives.
George Tiller dedicated his life to killing fetuses.
William Long dedicated his to killing terrorists.
One story still has ‘legs,’ the other is yesterday’s news. Nice priorities you’ve got there, MSM.”

81 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:14:14pm

re: #54 brookly red

Not that I would want this politicized, but I have a feeling that this lack of acknowledgment will be used against O some where down the road.

I may be worse for him than that. This is the second appearance of black Muslim terrorists on the nation’s radar in less than a month. If such people keep appearing and doing damage, the popularity of a black man with Muslim roots is going to fall a long ways. Even if he has no sympathy at all for the terrorists, his race and origins with count against him. Not a prediction I wish to come to pass, but one that I fear will.

82 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:15:00pm

re: #45 JammieWearingFool

Actually, 24 hours. Your point?

actually, it is going to need a lot more discussing than a mere 24 hrs.
how quickly are we supposed to understand and grasp the full meaning of
o announcing recently that we are NOT a christian nation and then all of a sudden we are one of the world’s largest moslem nations on earth.

that is just so crazy, it is difficult to fathom.

83 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:15:37pm

Maybe if Private Long performed a few partial-birth abortions, our esteemed President would have acknowledged his existence.

Sigh. Guess it’s not meant to be.

84 hazzyday  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:09pm

This has no media coverage here in Seattle. But I think it is important for leaders to point out these religious killings and why they are immoral. Then local political and religious leaders can take the queue and run with it. That is what leadership does. Pres Obama should be asking why there is no media coverage of this.

85 brookly red  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:19pm

re: #74 JacksonTn

He was a warrior … even if he didn’t make it to the battlefield … so realwest plays this for his vet buddies that pass over … this is for Pvt. William Andrew Long … see you on the other side brother …

this is the battlefield too, I wish more people would realize it.

86 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:25pm

re: #23 Cato the Elder

You just did.

I realize that. Why was it off limits to mention that before the election? Was he not proud of his fucking roots prior to being elected? Now he wears it as a badge of honor? WTF?

87 solomonpanting  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:36pm
The alleged gunman, Abdulhakim Muhammad, also 23, told investigators he wanted to kill as many Army personnel as he could “because of what they had done to Muslims in the past,”



What they had done to Muslims in the past.

Think about that for a moment. Does he mean stopping the slaughter in the former Yugoslavia, or the liberation of Kuwait, or the elimination of the butcher Saddam, or aiding Afghans in their war against the Soviet Union?

88 grumpy_old_soldier  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:48pm

PVT Long:

A successful patrol, trooper. Clear and safe your weapon, stand down and stand easy. Keep your hatchet scoured and your powder dry, and we will meet you at the next rally point.

Go with God, Soldier!

SFC (Ret) Timothy Jones
1st Battalion, 116th Infantry Regiment, 29th Infantry Division (Light)
Virginia Army National Guard

89 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:16:58pm

re: #76 anchors_aweigh

If true, that would mean our current POTUS, was indoctrinated.

Try and wrap your brain around that for a minute.

Yes.

90 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:17:00pm

re: #83 JammieWearingFool

Maybe if Private Long performed a few partial-birth abortions, our esteemed President would have acknowledged his existence.

Sigh. Guess it’s not meant to be.

To the radical left Pvt. Long was the baby killer.

91 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:17:37pm

re: #83 JammieWearingFool

Maybe if Private Long performed a few partial-birth abortions, our esteemed President would have acknowledged his existence.

Sigh. Guess it’s not meant to be.

Nor is a response from freetoken.

92 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:17:42pm

re: #55 Crimsonfisted

pvt Long is a hero, the zero not so much.

93 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:17:48pm

And lets not forget: Pvt. Quinton I. Ezeagwula, 18.

[Link: www.arkansasleader.com…]

Ezeagwula was shot three times as he stood outside the recruiting station with Pvt. William Long, 23, of Conway.

94 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:17:59pm

I saw Abdulhakim Muhammad’s face on the tube. It was the face of shame. He has taken an innocent life, and the religion he chose to pursue will be of no help to him, now. By his act of stupid violence, he has wasted two lives. Condolences and gratitude to the family of Private Long for their sacrifices to our nation.

95 ted  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:18:16pm

re: #80 sbvft contributor

Try again:

[Link: hotair.com…]

“A little food for thought from Newsbusters:

At the time of this writing, there are nearly 7,000 references to “George Tiller” in Google News.
There are under 500 for “William Long.”
George Tiller, of course, was the Kansas abortion doctor murdered Sunday morning by a man who allegedly had political and religious motives.
William Long was the 23-year-old military recruiter murdered Monday morning by a man who allegedly had political and religious motives.
George Tiller dedicated his life to killing fetuses.
William Long dedicated his to killing terrorists.
One story still has ‘legs,’ the other is yesterday’s news. Nice priorities you’ve got there, MSM.”

Thx Sbvft. This story was handled by the MSM in their usual disdainful way towards our military.

96 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:19:02pm

re: #45 JammieWearingFool

Actually, 24 hours. Your point?

It seemed like a bit over one day… perhaps I need more sleep.

Point? Just that it is noticeable, what you’ve been posting. Do you really believe what you said in this statement?

The dead guy would be thrilled to know we’re now a Muslim country.

On your blog you clearly imply that President Obama won’t comment/condemn the AR killer because of something to do with the President’s own (latent/hidden?) Islamic tendencies.

So, if I understand you correctly, you are directly stating that either the President is a sekrit Muslim, or has sympathies to be one, and thus somehow approves of the AR killer, if not in actual deed then in motive?

97 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:19:04pm

re: #82 nyc redneck

actually, it is going to need a lot more discussing than a mere 24 hrs.
how quickly are we supposed to understand and grasp the full meaning of
o announcing recently that we are NOT a christian nation and then all of a sudden we are one of the world’s largest moslem nations on earth.

that is just so crazy, it is difficult to fathom.

Yeah, but I guess a couple of blog posts and comments since last night is too much for some to handle. Some people can’t handle free speech, I suppose. Well, I plan on bringing it strong for as long as this wart on the face of humanity disgraces the White House.

98 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:19:24pm

And again, a link I’ve never clicked on, or even seen, is now in my nic. I am gonna be so embarrassed the day some pr0n link sneaks into my nic.

*sigh*

99 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:19:30pm

sooner or later this attitude toward the military is going to catch up with BO…he is there CinC, yet he disregards our fighting men whenever it fits his agenda…the campaign stop in Germany really pissed me of

100 hazzyday  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:19:41pm

re: #94 Kreuzueber Halbmond

I saw Abdulhakim Muhammad’s face on the tube. It was the face of shame. He has taken an innocent life, and the religion he chose to pursue will be of no help to him, now. By his act of stupid violence, he has wasted two lives. Condolences and gratitude to the family of Private Long for their sacrifices to our nation.

If he was converted in prison on the face of the koran then I am not in favor of giving people in prisons time with their Imam and the Koran. Something perverse is going on there.

101 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:20:07pm

Fixed.

102 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:20:15pm

Private Long was killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

George Tiller was also killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

These cases are amazingly alike in many ways.

103 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:20:29pm

re: #74 JacksonTn

He was a warrior … even if he didn’t make it to the battlefield … so realwest plays this for his vet buddies that pass over … this is for Pvt. William Andrew Long … see you on the other side brother …

The embedding has been disabled. Here’s the link:

Brother’s In Arms

And my own favorite Dire Straights song:

Walk Of Life

104 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:20:53pm
105 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:20:54pm

re: #97 JammieWearingFool

Yeah, but I guess a couple of blog posts and comments since last night is too much for some to handle. Some people can’t handle free speech, I suppose. Well, I plan on bringing it strong for as long as this wart on the face of humanity disgraces the White House.

My sarcastic response to that last thread was:

The ‘10 ACORN census of the 57 States isn’t done yet.

That statement of Obama’s is so mind boggling on so many levels.

106 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:21:09pm

re: #102 Charles

the MSM did not cover them alike at all.

107 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:21:28pm

re: #102 Charles

Private Long was killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

George Tiller was also killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

These cases are amazingly alike in many ways.

And one is wall to wall in the media and other is a footnote.

108 hazzyday  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:21:55pm

re: #96 freetoken

He won’t condemn because his Cairo speech is more important to him then this citizen. Condemning it would turn off the ears he wants to talk to. He has that MO.

109 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:22:24pm
110 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:22:29pm

the suspect here was already under investigation by the fbi’s joint terrorism task force; my question here would be; if he was under investigation, how was he able to obtain the arsenal of weapons they found on him?

111 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:22:48pm

re: #40 Iron Fist

We’re supposed to say that America is one of the world’s largest Mohammedan Nations. I doubt that that is really true, but we do have Mohammedans here. Oh, yes, they are here.

I suppose he said that for the Mohammedans there, knowing most of them can’t read.//

I heard on the radio that the CIA stats would put the USA at around number 33 in the population rank, probably after Paris and London.

112 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:23:00pm

Put Carlos Bledsoe in the same cell with Scott Roeder, and send the guards out for pizza and ice cream and a movie.

113 NY Nana  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:23:01pm

re: #73 Thanos

We fight them over there so they won’t come here, but never forget there are a sprinkling already here.

My thoughts are with this family who has served.

May he rest in peace. To die so young?

Thanos, I fear that these terrorists are already everywhere in our country, and they all have only one thing in mind….a repeat of 9/11, G-d forbid.

I do not understand for one second how and why they allow them to be converted to a ‘religion’ that is determined to dhimmify every single one of us while in prison, no less…and how do these individuals, who probably are illegal, get their hands on guns?

What is a prison for?!?!?!

Our borders are about as secure as a pair of lace curtains, damn it.

114 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:23:16pm

so far the zero has be worse than i thought he would be.
HELP!

115 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:23:30pm

re: #86 VegasRick

I realize that. Why was it off limits to mention that before the election? Was he not proud of his fucking roots prior to being elected? Now he wears it as a badge of honor? WTF?

Cato? Cat got your tongue?

116 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:24:02pm

re: #102 Charles

It would sure be nice if the MSM saw it that way!
But…NOT

117 MarineVet  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:24:14pm

Yes Somolia is when I lost faith in CNN (Communist News Network)! God rest your soul PVT Long……I just hope that the “muslim convert” is found fit for trial and prosecuted!

118 sbvft contributor  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:24:16pm

re: #107 jcm

And one is wall to wall in the media and other is a footnote.

[Link: newsbusters.org…]

“Postscript dated 6/2/09, 11:37 PM Eastern: As I add this postscript, it’s approximately 24 hours after I posted the post above, and thus now time to see how many references to “William Long” will appear on Google News. If the number of news articles referencing William Long approximates 7,000, I will have been unfair. Checking now… the answer is… there are 949 references to “William Long” on Google News. A search for “George Tiller” finds 8,561.”

119 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:24:40pm

In other words Jammie, when you say on your blog:

[…]

Now I suppose if the GOP uses Hussein’s words against him it will be what, hate speech? Anti-Muslim bigotry? Let me also see if I get this straight. Although we’re an 85% Christian nation, if someone has the temerity to call this a Christian nation they’re roundly condemned and excoriated by the secular left. Hussein calls this a Muslim country and trust me, you won’t hear a peep from the left. They’ll just ridicule us for being paranoid.

Is it any wonder why President Hussein hasn’t condemned the Muslim killer of the Army recruiter?

You wrote that last statement as question. Can you answer your own question here, in a statement and not with another question?

120 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:24:44pm

re: #108 hazzyday

He won’t condemn because his Cairo speech is more important to him then this citizen. Condemning it would turn off the ears he wants to talk to. He has that MO.

I doubt a statement from Øbama for domestic consumption will have Obama (zero) effect overseas.

121 poteen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:25:23pm

re: #110 gtrs

Investigation. Not surviellance. They obviously didn’t have anyone watching him.

122 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:25:28pm

re: #117 MarineVet

Yes Somolia is when I lost faith in CNN (Communist News Network)! God rest your soul PVT Long……I just hope that the “muslim convert” is found fit for trial and prosecuted!

AND FRIED!

123 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:25:44pm

re: #112 Alouette

Put Carlos Bledsoe in the same cell with Scott Roeder, and send the guards out for pizza and ice cream and a movie.

No. Try them both fairly and properly. After they are convicted, hang them side by side. Make the point clear: We will be fair and follow our laws, but we will have zero tolerance for fanatics who murder in the name of God.

124 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:25:45pm

re: #97 JammieWearingFool

Yeah, but I guess a couple of blog posts and comments since last night is too much for some to handle. Some people can’t handle free speech, I suppose. Well, I plan on bringing it strong for as long as this wart on the face of humanity disgraces the White House.

glad to hear it. it must be done.
apparently even hugo chavez is laughing at o , saying o is even left of him and fidel. this after he called o an ignoramus.
our president.

125 quickjustice  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:25:57pm

Shooting someone from ambush is a conventional military tactic— if you’re in a war zone. This was pre-meditated murder, like the D.C. snipers.

IIRC, Arkansas still has the death penalty. I wonder if there’s a federal statute about terrorist attacks on U.S. military personnel within the jurisdiction of the U.S.

126 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:25:57pm

re: #122 yochanan

AND FRIED!

In pork fat……..

127 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:26:11pm

re: #108 hazzyday

I agree that President Obama is more concerned with his speech in Egypt, and getting the audience to listen, than with addressing the AR killing right now.

128 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:26:13pm

re: #113 NY Nana

NY Nana,

Where was he in prison? When was he in prison?

I keep hearing this. The guy was 23 or 24 (depends on where you look). Which state imprisons teenagers with radicals? How long could he have been in, if he’s been in Memphis, and overseas, and living in Nashville?

129 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:26:21pm

re: #110 gtrs

Under investigation doesn’t mean 24 hr watched.

130 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:26:55pm

re: #121 poteen

Investigation. Not surviellance. They obviously didn’t have anyone watching him.

what?…the killer is a Muslim jihadi…the issue is way over BOs head…he is probably seething and happy this story is getting buried

131 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:27:06pm

re: #102 Charles

These cases are amazingly alike in many ways.

The main difference, one of these religious fanatics represents a group that has declared war on the United States of America.

The other is just unknowingly rotting us out from the inside.

132 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:27:13pm

C’mon, guys. Don’t try to use this stuff for political gain. It’s tasteless and it doesn’t work.

133 anchors_aweigh  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:27:19pm

re: #104 buzzsawmonkey

Of course he was. By the time Obama was hitting puberty, the Civil Rights Movement had been taken over by the Marxists, Muslims and separatists. King spent his last years running after the movement he had formerly led, in an attempt to retain his relevancy.

For that matter, Michelle Obama grew up in a formerly elegant neighborhood on Chicago’s South Side which turned from mixed to all black in the course of about a year. The whites sold at panic prices, the crime rate soared, and the neighborhood was run by a gang then known as the Blackstone Rangers, later the Black P. Stone Nation, and is now known as the El Rukhns. Notice a progression there? From “Blackstone”—the name of a street on the South Side—to the Marxist/separatist “Black P. Stone Nation” to…Muslim, or Muslimesque.

People have commented on the racial grievance theme which pervades what of Michelle Obama’s college work has come to light. To anyone who knows what South Shore was like in the 1960s and early ’70s, and what the rhetoric of the time was like, it is no surprise.

And as I type this, Obama is in the Middle East preparing to speak to the world’s Muslims. To say what? Apologize? Reach out?

I will listen to that speech with great interest.

134 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:27:39pm

re: #112 Alouette

Aside from their different religions, they would probably get along quite well when it comes to theories of implementation.

135 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:27:52pm

The President of the United States is ashamed of his country (me).

And I of he.

There is no excuse for not stepping up to comment on the heinous murder in Arkansas. Commander in Chief - this young man was one of his, though he likely feels little kinship.

136 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:27:52pm

re: #118 sbvft contributor

[Link: newsbusters.org…]

“Postscript dated 6/2/09, 11:37 PM Eastern: As I add this postscript, it’s approximately 24 hours after I posted the post above, and thus now time to see how many references to “William Long” will appear on Google News. If the number of news articles referencing William Long approximates 7,000, I will have been unfair. Checking now… the answer is… there are 949 references to “William Long” on Google News. A search for “George Tiller” finds 8,561.”

Ok, what is this guy talking about, I find…

Results 1 - 10 of about 218,000 for “William Long”. (0.16 seconds)

If you google “William Andrew Long” you get Results 1 - 10 of about 1,520 for “William Andrew Long”. (0.35 seconds)

I think there is something wrong with the newsbuster article.

137 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:27:55pm

re: #114 yochanan

so far the zero has be worse than i thought he would be.
HELP!

I suspect folks are 2nd guessing themselves, thinking maybe this whole election thing maybe ain’t exactly turning out as maybe they thought.

138 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:28:08pm

re: #102 Charles

Private Long was killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

George Tiller was also killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

These cases are amazingly alike in many ways.

Indeed they are, but the disparate coverage of the two events could not be more obvious.

You condemned them both, I condemned them both, most of the right and fair-minded people condemned them both.

Most of the left and the mainstream media has ignored what happened in Arkansas.

139 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:28:40pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

C’mon, guys. Don’t try to use this stuff for political gain. It’s tasteless and it doesn’t work.

How so? Pointing out that obama has not made mention of Pvt. Long?

140 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:28:44pm

re: #126 jcm

In pork FAT……..

PIG SHIT

why waste good pig fat.

141 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:28:47pm

re: #130 albusteve

reply to #120….bad foo

142 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:29:07pm

Maybe I’ll go asplode some noobs on TF2 for a while.
Puddininhead on woofclan custom server.

143 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:29:12pm

re: #127 freetoken

I agree that President Obama is more concerned with his speech in Egypt, and getting the audience to listen, than with addressing the AR killing right now.

Could this be because in the World of 0bama a Muslim audience has priority over an American one?

144 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:29:42pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

C’mon, guys. Don’t try to use this stuff for political gain. It’s tasteless and it doesn’t work.

Do you really think folks are commenting thinking political gains? Maybe it’s just some frustration?

145 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:29:44pm

re: #136 Walter L. Newton

Ok, what is this guy talking about, I find…

Results 1 - 10 of about 218,000 for “William Long”. (0.16 seconds)

If you google “William Andrew Long” you get Results 1 - 10 of about 1,520 for “William Andrew Long”. (0.35 seconds)

I think there is something wrong with the newsbuster article.

Ok, the article say “Google News” I suspect thats the difference, I did a plain google search. Never mind. Sorry.

I still don’t have any pride in Obama.

146 jones  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:30:03pm

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

Rarely noted was the fact George W. Bush wrote personal, handwritten letters of condolence to the families of soliders killed in combat.

Barack Hussein Obama can’t even man up and mention their death at the hands of his (ahem) co-religionists on our own soil.

Obama has no problem taking his dog and pony show on a date to manhattan. Why not soldier’s funerals? What is his excuse?

147 poteen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:30:12pm

re: #130 albusteve

And that has what to do with a JTTF investigation?

148 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:30:16pm

re: #129 1SG(ret) agreed but he was clearly on the fbi’s radar; there are still questions to be answered

149 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:30:23pm

re: #143 pink freud

Could this be because in the World of 0bama a Muslim audience has priority over an American one?

Obama believes he can bring about whirled peas.

150 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:30:26pm

re: #119 freetoken

In other words Jammie, when you say on your blog:

You wrote that last statement as question. Can you answer your own question here, in a statement and not with another question?

Sure. Because he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about Private Long being murdered by a Muslim.

Next question.

151 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:30:40pm

re: #134 Slumbering Behemoth

Aside from their different religions, they would probably get along quite well when it comes to theories of implementation.

I don’t think so. They’re both racists.

152 captdiggs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:30:57pm

re: #30 Nevergiveup

I am sure they will. They were in uniform on orders.

I wonder if they will award the Purple Heart. Certainly in my view they should receive it. But politics might enter into it. An award of the PH would indicate that America is at war with homegrown Islamists, and that admission has yet to come from this administration ( or Bush’s either).

153 quickjustice  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:31:00pm

re: #126 jcm

Trafe thread! Ham and cheese sandwich! Shrimp cocktail!

154 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:31:01pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

C’mon, guys. Don’t try to use this stuff for political gain. It’s tasteless and it doesn’t work.

do you point out corruption of the tea parties for political gain?….if not then why do you?

155 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:31:06pm

re: #125 quickjustice

Shooting someone from ambush is a conventional military tactic— if you’re in a war zone. This was pre-meditated murder, like the D.C. snipers.

IIRC, Arkansas still has the death penalty. I wonder if there’s a federal statute about terrorist attacks on U.S. military personnel within the jurisdiction of the U.S.

The FBI has opened an investigation into the incident, said Steven Frazier, spokesman for the agency’s Little Rock office. “Based on what we find, we will determine whether there is any federal jurisdiction to prosecute,” he said

[Link: www.cnn.com…]

156 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:31:23pm
157 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:31:26pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

C’mon, guys. Don’t try to use this stuff for political gain. It’s tasteless and it doesn’t work.

There are political ramifications and pointing that out is not using it for gain.

158 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:32:05pm

re: #151 Alouette

I don’t think so. They’re both racists.

You don’t think they’d at least agree that violence and murder is justifiable when committed in the name of a god?

159 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:32:08pm

re: #97 JammieWearingFool
Hey there Jammie, I’ve been out of the loop on the news for the last couple of days so I logged in tonight to sort of get caught up. I followed this comment to your web site knowing you would have something very wise to say about it…

“Now I suppose if the GOP uses Hussein’s words against him it will be what, hate speech? Anti-Muslim bigotry? Let me also see if I get this straight. Although we’re an 85% Christian nation, if someone has the temerity to call this a Christian nation they’re roundly condemned and excoriated by the secular left. Hussein calls this a Muslim country and trust me, you won’t hear a peep from the left. They’ll just ridicule us for being paranoid.”

You got that right, I don’t expect to read a peep on this from the left. I hope this story gets traction with (gasp) O’reilly or Hannity and makes it on TV. The hypocrisy of the left never ceases to amaze me. This appeasement shit o is doing with the Muslims is not only making him appear weaker in their eyes it’s going to backfire on him and piss Americans off for constantly getting dissed like this. I’m as pissed as you about this btw.

160 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:32:27pm

re: #127 freetoken

I agree that President Obama is more concerned with his speech in Egypt, and getting the audience to listen, than with addressing the AR killing right now.

this is going to cost him. his hubris will be his undoing.
and his stupid handlers don’t understand that the american public is watching.
and the b.s. is adding up,
while he fops around playing president, looking ridiculous.

161 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:32:37pm

I found this on the web. Apologies if it’s already appeared in these comments, but I couldn’t see it.

The death of Private William Long goes unnoted

May his memory be blessed.

162 Mich-again  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:32:39pm

re: #136 Walter L. Newton

Did you search in Google or Google News? I searched “William Long” in Google News and this was beneath one of the stories that popped up..

all 7,691 news articles
163 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:32:40pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

C’mon, guys. Don’t try to use this stuff for political gain. It’s tasteless and it doesn’t work.

Politics have nothing the fuck to do with it. Obama makes no statement, the MSM is missing in action, the left is harping on the abortion doctor killing. You are setting up a straw man, assuming all the comments here have a political motive.

Yea, right… well, thank you for reading our minds.

164 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:33:14pm
165 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:33:48pm

re: #162 Mich-again

Did you search in Google or Google News? I searched “William Long” in Google News and this was beneath one of the stories that popped up..

I did a plain google search, and I commented on my mistake above, sorry. I corrected myself already.

166 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:34:08pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

C’mon, guys. Don’t try to use this stuff for political gain. It’s tasteless and it doesn’t work.

Sure, right now I’m sizing up how many congressional seats this will help the GOP gain next year.

Like the left wouldn’t use anything for political gain.

See Wellstone, Paul.

167 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:34:09pm

re: #2 tradewind

“They weren’t on the battlefield, but apparently, the battlefield’s here.”

The money quote.

Also the first instance of domestic Islamic terrorism on U.S. soil since 9/11. There’s a rumor floating around that the FBI was directed not to investigate the activities of black Muslim converts. Be interesting to get more facts on that.

168 quickjustice  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:34:20pm

re: #146 jones

A friend of mine owns the secret, undisclosed restaurant where President Obama and his wife had dinner in Manhattan. Definitely intimate dining with a five-star rating.

169 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:34:29pm

re: #115 VegasRick

Cato? Cat got your tongue?

si tacuisses philosophus mansisses

170 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:34:48pm

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

You don’t get dinner and a show at funerals. You’ve got to have priorities when you’re spending the public’s cash.

George Bush would have gone to the funeral, but then again he was taught to respect the military by his father. Barack Obama was taught by William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright to scorn the them military.

171 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:35:06pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

C’mon, guys. Don’t try to use this stuff for political gain. It’s tasteless and it doesn’t work.

Politics is war by other means.

172 SteveC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:35:31pm

This soldier looks a lot like a young man I sat beside on my flight to Denver just before Memorial Day. Young, just married, planning to make the military his career…. I’m sure that is a common story.

He’s got a tour in Afghanistan coming up late this year. I have no idea of his name, but I’ll keep him in my thoughts. It was an honor to ride beside one of America’s heroes.

(I handed him his bag from the overhead bin and thought to myself that I’m not even worthy to touch it.)

173 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:35:33pm

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

“0” is a dog and pony show.
Razzel-Dazzel.
In the in crowd.

174 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:35:38pm

re: #102 Charles

Private Long was killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

George Tiller was also killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

These cases are amazingly alike in many ways.

Both are driven by poltical religion, and each has twenty years or more of radical demagoguery, with multiple acts of terror to their discredit. Obviously one is more prevalent than the other, but both are attacks on the values and freedom of americans.

175 Gus  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:35:51pm

OK, thought I’d see if the Whitehouse mentions either man, Pvt. William Long or George Tiller and here is the result:

Pvt. William Long @ Whitehouse dot gov search.

George Tiller @ Whitehouse dot gov search.

No mention of Pvt. William Long. Tiller however is mentioned in three places.

176 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:36:12pm

Pvt Long’s mother heard the gun shots that murdered her son May G-d comfort her soul. No mother should hear this.

177 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:36:30pm

re: #175 Gus 802

OK, thought I’d see if the Whitehouse mentions either man, Pvt. William Long or George Tiller and here is the result:

Pvt. William Long @ Whitehouse dot gov search.

George Tiller @ Whitehouse dot gov search.

No mention of Pvt. William Long. Tiller however is mentioned in three places.

One worked for Obama.
One did not.

178 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:36:46pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

George Bush would have gone to the funeral, but then again he was taught to respect the military by his father. Barack Obama was taught by William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright to scorn the them military.

Whenever I see O with the military, I always think of that scene in the Sound of Music where the Baroness is feigning interest in playing a ball game with the Von Trapp children.

179 Gus  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:37:23pm

re: #177 jcm

One worked for Obama.
One did not.

Yep. Obama better get his head unstuck and really fast. This won’t cut it.

180 quickjustice  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:37:29pm

re: #167 The Sanity Inspector

What about the D.C. snipers, who admittedly attacked civilians rather than military? Why aren’t they comparable?

There was a NYC federal judge who acquitted IRA members who attacked British Army personnel on grounds that they were attacking military, not civilians. Attacks on civilians, he said, were terrorism. Attack on military are not.

181 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:38:01pm

re: #160 nyc redneck

this is going to cost him. his hubris will be his undoing.
and his stupid handlers don’t understand that the american public is watching.
and the b.s. is adding up,
while he fops around playing president, looking ridiculous.

They know we are watching. It is obvious they do not care. I believe that what you and I consider to be the domain of being a citizen is now considered by 0bama et al. to be equated to being a subject.

182 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:38:09pm

re: #152 captdiggs

I wonder if they will award the Purple Heart. Certainly in my view they should receive it. But politics might enter into it. An award of the PH would indicate that America is at war with homegrown Islamists, and that admission has yet to come from this administration ( or Bush’s either).

Good point. Will be interesting to see.

183 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:38:17pm

re: #176 yochanan

Pvt Long’s mother heard the gun shots that murdered her son May G-d comfort her soul. No mother should hear this.


Just when I think I could not feel worse. She was right there?

184 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:38:26pm

Hi KT, How can you take this so lightly? O praises the US for being a majority Muslim nation and then doesn’t have the fortitude to denounce this as Muslim extremism? I’ve been out of the loop but I’m assuming from just the few comments here that he has been quite on this, which is totally unforgivable all politics aside IMO.

185 Mich-again  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:38:30pm

re: #163 Walter L. Newton

This came out a few hours ago. Obama issues statement on Little Rock shooting

“I am deeply saddened by this senseless act of violence against two brave young soldiers who were doing their part to strengthen our armed forces and keep our country safe. I would like to wish Quinton Ezeagwula a speedy recovery, and to offer my condolences and prayers to William Long’s family as they mourn the loss of their son.”

Note to the President. It wasn’t a senseless act to the jihadi who did it. It made perfect sense to him. Gee I wonder what was it that influenced him?

186 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:39:12pm

re: #132 Killgore Trout

C’mon, guys. Don’t try to use this stuff for political gain. It’s tasteless and it doesn’t work.

No Tea Party dig to accompany this wonderful comment?

187 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:39:16pm

re: #183 Crimsonfisted

Just when I think I could not feel worse. She was right there?

She had gone to pick him up.

188 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:39:16pm

re: #181 pink freud

They know we are watching. It is obvious they do not care. I believe that what you and I consider to be the domain of being a citizen is now considered by 0bama et al. to be equated to being a subject.

Pink … they do not care … they won without you … they think they can do it again … you do not matter …

189 captdiggs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:39:21pm

re: #175 Gus 802

OK, thought I’d see if the Whitehouse mentions either man, Pvt. William Long or George Tiller and here is the result:

Pvt. William Long @ Whitehouse dot gov search.

George Tiller @ Whitehouse dot gov search.

No mention of Pvt. William Long. Tiller however is mentioned in three places.

A muslim convert who goes on a religious killing spree in the US is a political inconvenience for Obama.
A wacko “right winger” who does the same is “an opportunity”.

190 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:40:36pm

re: #185 Mich-again

This came out a few hours ago. Obama issues statement on Little Rock shooting

Note to the President. It wasn’t a senseless act to the jihadi who did it. It made perfect sense to him. Gee I wonder what was it that influenced him?

Thanks for sharing that. I’ve been waiting two days to hear something.

191 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:40:39pm

re: #183 Crimsonfisted

she was waiting to pick up her son from work, she did not see the shots just heard them. acording to the vedio report from the father.

192 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:00pm

re: #185 Mich-again

This came out a few hours ago. Obama issues statement on Little Rock shooting

Note to the President. It wasn’t a senseless act to the jihadi who did it. It made perfect sense to him. Gee I wonder what was it that influenced him?

Good. My pride level in the president just went up .00005 percent. This guy is really quick on his feet. I wonder if he did it for political reasons? Maybe we should drop this subject so we don’t upset Killgore?

193 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:04pm

re: #178 Pianobuff

Whenever I see O with the military, I always think of that scene in the Sound of Music where the Baroness is feigning interest in playing a ball game with the Von Trapp children.

Oh, good one.

194 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:19pm

re: #189 captdiggs

A muslim convert who goes on a religious killing spree in the US is a political inconvenience for Obama.
A wacko “right winger” who does the same is “an opportunity”.

Never let a crisis go unused.

195 sbvft contributor  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:22pm

re: #163 Walter L. Newton

Politics have nothing the fuck to do with it. Obama makes no statement, the MSM is missing in action, the left is harping on the abortion doctor killing. You are setting up a straw man, assuming all the comments here have a political motive.

Yea, right… well, thank you for reading our minds.

Well put.

196 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:35pm

Shouldn’t we expect condemnation for this act from the MSM. Otherwise we can only assume they have no problem being seen as condoning it. Without total condemnation we have to thing they are OK with it.

I think I read that or something to the effect about the……Tea Parties

197 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:39pm

re: #186 unrealizedviewpoint

No Tea Party dig to accompany this wonderful comment?

LOL - I will find a Ron Paul connection if you need it?

198 Gus  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:41:56pm

re: #189 captdiggs

A muslim convert who goes on a religious killing spree in the US is a political inconvenience for Obama.
A wacko “right winger” who does the same is “an opportunity”.

A massive “inconvenience” in light of the current Middle Eastern trip and speech in Egypt. Quite a contrast to things considering the Muslim convert. The politicalization and opportunist nature is self evident in the case of the WH response to Tiller’s death.

199 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:42:00pm

re: #191 yochanan

she was waiting to pick up her son from work, she did not see the shots just heard them. acording to the vedio report from the father.

re: #187 jcm

She had gone to pick him up.

I doubt if it were me I would ever sleep again. I cannot even imagine. My prayers are with her and her family.

200 Mich-again  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:42:02pm

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

Maybe we should drop this subject so we don’t upset Killgore?

Too late. Obama offered his prayers for the family.
/

201 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:42:04pm

re: #188 JacksonTn

Pink … they do not care … they won without you … they think they can do it again … you do not matter

That would be catastrophically flawed thinking in their part. WE ALL MATTER.

202 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:42:14pm

re: #185 Mich-again

This came out a few hours ago. Obama issues statement on Little Rock shooting


Note to the President. It wasn’t a senseless act to the jihadi who did it. It made perfect sense to him. Gee I wonder what was it that influenced him?

Hey mich, what a friggin spineless condemnation. He can’t even call Islamic extremism for what it is - spit

203 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:42:47pm

re: #192 Walter L. Newton

Good. My pride level in the president just went up .00005 percent. This guy is really quick on his feet. I wonder if he did it for political reasons? Maybe we should drop this subject so we don’t upset Killgore?

You’re generous. It didn’t even sound the faintest ping in mine.

204 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:43:02pm

re: #201 pink freud

That would be catastrophically flawed thinking in their part. WE ALL MATTER.

Pink … that may be true … but I assure you it is how they feel …

205 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:43:13pm

re: #195 sbvft contributor

Well put.

Thanks.

206 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:43:43pm

re: #199 Crimsonfisted

when i was 14 i saw my father die that was 45 years ago and i can remember it like it was yesterday and a day does not go by with out me thinking about it.

207 SteveC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:43:44pm

re: #201 pink freud

That would be catastrophically flawed thinking in their part. WE ALL MATTER.

I’m sorry, citizen. The One has not chosen you at this time. Take your seat.

208 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:43:50pm

re: #185 Mich-again

For someone who claims to have understood and experienced Islam, the President doesn’t quite grasp the significance of what the terrorist did in murdering Pvt. Long. It was jihad, and it was his intention to murder more than just Pvt. Long. He had been planning this for some time, and contemplated multiple targets, including the Armed Forces Recruiting Center in NYC’s Times Square.

209 jorline  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:44:09pm

Our Commander In Chief is apologizing to Muslims for our behavior in the past, sucking up to Muslim leaders and now proudly wearing his Muslim heritage while new converts sow hatred for our military here at home.

Our world is upside down.

210 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:44:31pm

re: #203 MandyManners

You’re generous. It didn’t even sound the faintest ping in mine.

Thank you. I do have a heart. I keep it in a jar of formaldehyde on my shelf, right next to my computer.
/

211 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:44:53pm

re: #185 Mich-again

This came out a few hours ago. Obama issues statement on Little Rock shooting

Note to the President. It wasn’t a senseless act to the jihadi who did it. It made perfect sense to him. Gee I wonder what was it that influenced him?

Totally hollow and way too late statement. I would expect the same verbiage in the event of the death of a White House janitor, hit by a meteor.

I’ve been cuttin’ the guy slack, up to now.

212 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:45:04pm

re: #199 Crimsonfisted

I doubt if it were me I would ever sleep again. I cannot even imagine. My prayers are with her and her family.

I heard the audio of the father.

Amazing amount of grace under pressure. Father was a Marine, and a bunch of the cops at the scene where Marines.

213 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:45:14pm

re: #202 turn

Hey mich, what a friggin spineless condemnation. He can’t even call Islamic extremism for what it is - spit

And in failing to do so he undercuts his speech tomorrow. His refusal to name the things that attacked America will be taken as weakness.

214 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:45:14pm

re: #143 pink freud

Could this be because in the World of 0bama a Muslim audience has priority over an American one?

BINGO
has he ever talking in a disparaging way abt. moslems or islam?
or ever asked them to apologize or even acknowledge the horrors they have visited on the world.
he should ask the saudi king to apologize for 9-11.

215 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:45:35pm

re: #208 lawhawk

For someone who claims to have understood and experienced Islam, the President doesn’t quite grasp the significance of what the terrorist did in murdering Pvt. Long. It was jihad, and it was his intention to murder more than just Pvt. Long. He had been planning this for some time, and contemplated multiple targets, including the Armed Forces Recruiting Center in NYC’s Times Square.

Something tells me no such sentiments will intrude upon Obama’s speech tomorrow.

216 tradewind  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:45:51pm

re: #78 razorbacker

He was young to have done much hard time


It wouldn’t take much.

217 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:45:53pm

Our resident liberals are noticeable silent on this topic. Where’s all that soaring mouth-full-of-marbles rhetoric you guys have spewing lately?

218 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:45:54pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

Thank you. I do have a heart. I keep it in a jar of formaldehyde on my shelf, right next to my computer.
/

Gus802, you probably know where I got that funny statement from?

219 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:46:01pm

Let’s take it a step further, Killgore. Can you name me a significant tragedy of, oh, the last 20 years the left has not tried to exploit for political gain?

220 NY Nana  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:46:21pm

re: #128 razorbacker

My bad…I am amazed that Al-NYT has an actually excellent article about him and his background…frightening.

/His parents must be sooooo proud.

221 quickjustice  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:46:42pm

re: #209 jorline

Look, Jorline—

If we’re really, really nice to those Muslims who hate us, and we apologize for all the bad things we’ve done to them, then maybe they won’t be angry any more, and hurt us./

222 jones  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:46:57pm

re: #219 JammieWearingFool

Let’s take it a step further, Killgore. Can you name me a significant tragedy of, oh, the last 20 years the left has not tried to exploit for political gain?

No.

223 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:01pm

re: #215 Nevergiveup

i have no desire to listen to the ‘zero’ right now i am coming to feel that he isn’t my president the best i can do is to ignore him.

224 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:02pm

Rest in peace, Private Long.

May your wounds heal quickly, Private Ezeagwula.

225 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:05pm

re: #200 Mich-again

Too late. Obama offered his prayers for the family.
/

I like the emphasis there, damn straight. What did he do bow toward .. oh well I better just leave it at that. Ironfist rule is starting to apply to turn tonight.

226 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:11pm

re: #188 JacksonTn

Pink … they do not care … they won without you … they think they can do it again … you do not matter …

I heard a tape of the crowd reaction to “0”s date night outing………women actually crying…..saying it was so wonderful………..like when the King would attend the Shakespeare theater…….
The “Fans” matter.

227 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:13pm

re: #80 sbvft contributor

Try again:

[Link: hotair.com…]

“A little food for thought from Newsbusters:

At the time of this writing, there are nearly 7,000 references to “George Tiller” in Google News.
There are under 500 for “William Long.”
George Tiller, of course, was the Kansas abortion doctor murdered Sunday morning by a man who allegedly had political and religious motives.
William Long was the 23-year-old military recruiter murdered Monday morning by a man who allegedly had political and religious motives.
George Tiller dedicated his life to killing fetuses.
William Long dedicated his to killing terrorists.
One story still has ‘legs,’ the other is yesterday’s news. Nice priorities you’ve got there, MSM.”

The damnable thing is that Dr. Tiller is going to become a lefty martyr, like Mathew Shepard, while Pvt Long is going to be forgotten, in all likelihood.

228 JeremyR  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:24pm

re: #8 JammieWearingFool

A shame his commander-in-chief, he of the Muslim roots, has yet to acknowledge his murder.

I think it has more to do with Barry being anti-American then with whether he is of muslim, Christian or jewish origins. Barry is more of a self worshiper from what I see. In his own small mind he can do no wrong.

229 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:28pm

re: #206 yochanan

when i was 14 i saw my father die that was 45 years ago and i can remember it like it was yesterday and a day does not go by with out me thinking about it.

I understand. My mother thinks about HER mother each day, she said recently. She is 74. My grandmother passed away in 1960 something. I am almost the age my grandmother was when she passed. I get what you are saying.

Mrs. Long needs all our prayers. I hope she knows how grateful we are to her son and how proud we are.

230 brookly red  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:31pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

Thank you. I do have a heart. I keep it in a jar of formaldehyde on my shelf, right next to my computer.
/

isn’t that the 8 ball?

231 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:47:42pm

re: #214 nyc redneck

BINGO
has he ever talking in a disparaging way abt. moslems or islam?
or ever asked them to apologize or even acknowledge the horrors they have visited on the world.
he should ask the saudi king to apologize for 9-11.

When pigs fly.

232 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:48:13pm

re: #225 turn

I like the emphasis there, damn straight. What did he do bow toward .. oh well I better just leave it at that. Ironfist rule is starting to apply to turn tonight.

c’mon, hang out and say something stupid…I don’t wanna be the only one who does that

233 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:48:31pm

re: #209 jorline

Our Commander In Chief is apologizing to Muslims for our behavior in the past, sucking up to Muslim leaders and now proudly wearing his Muslim heritage while new converts sow hatred for our military here at home.

Our world is upside down.

jorline … it is cool to be muslim in this country now … Obama has muslim relatives … I wish I were kidding … I am not knocking the religion as a whole so don’t slam me for that … I am just saying that whatever he does or touches … some people want to be just like him … it is just what happens when people idolize someone … and I am sure many black children admire him … which I understand … I am not trying to figure it out because as with everything religion it just is sometimes so complicated … but IMO this worship of everything Obama may turn out bad …

234 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:48:34pm

re: #208 lawhawk

Exactly LH, man I missed LGF the last few days.

235 SteveC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:48:39pm

re: #209 jorline

Our Commander In Chief is apologizing to Muslims for our behavior in the past, sucking up to Muslim leaders and now proudly wearing his Muslim heritage while new converts sow hatred for our military here at home.

Our world is upside down.

Sounds like some convoluted College Fraternity rite, where every time they slap you with the paddle you’re supposed to say “Thank you sir, may I please have another!”

236 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:48:46pm

re: #200 Mich-again

Too late. Obama offered his prayers for the family.
/

More than a bit of a cheap shot.

237 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:48:52pm

re: #223 yochanan

i have no desire to listen to the ‘zero’ right now i am coming to feel that he isn’t my president the best i can do is to ignore him.

I know how you feel, but still tomorrow’s speech while hard for me to listen to will be important. Does anyone know when EST it is on?

238 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:49:00pm

re: #185 Mich-again

This came out a few hours ago. Obama issues statement on Little Rock shooting

Note to the President. It wasn’t a senseless act to the jihadi who did it. It made perfect sense to him. Gee I wonder what was it that influenced him?

Thanks for the bulletin.

239 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:49:41pm

re: #158 Slumbering Behemoth

You don’t think they’d at least agree that violence and murder is justifiable when committed in the name of a god?

Their respective beliefs would require them to kill the other.

240 NY Nana  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:49:53pm

re: #160 nyc redneck

Bottom line? He is nothing more than a typical product of the Chicago political machine. And I say that as a Bostonian by birth….and we all know what that means.

241 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:01pm

re: #237 Nevergiveup

I know how you feel, but still tomorrow’s speech while hard for me to listen to will be important. Does anyone know when EST it is on?

look for a thread

242 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:08pm

Let’s get real — the left and the right both shamefully exploit pretty much anything they can grasp in the news to futher their pet causes. That doesn’t make it less despicable or tasteless from either side. Because the other side does it is not a good argument.

The thing I am waiting to find out about this…. will a martyr tape appear? That will tell us “lone wolf jihadi” or not.

243 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:20pm

re: #200 Mich-again

“Deleted”….. I’m sure what I typed would have gotten me thrown off here!

244 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:22pm

re: #237 Nevergiveup

I know how you feel, but still tomorrow’s speech while hard for me to listen to will be important. Does anyone know when EST it is on?


At this point, I can only READ him. And his speeches, in print, are abysmal, IMHO.

245 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:28pm

re: #227 The Sanity Inspector

The damnable thing is that Dr. Tiller is going to become a lefty martyr, like Mathew Shepard, while Pvt Long is going to be forgotten, in all likelihood.

I would say, truthfully, that Mathew Shepard was a martyr in a sense. I really don’t think he deserves to be put in the same category as Dr. Tiller.

Even though Dr. Tiller in NO WAY deserved what happened to him, there was a lot of contraversery surrounding him.

Mathew Shepard was just a young man who was killed for being gay.

Not a legit comparison in my opinion.

246 SteveC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:29pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

Thank you. I do have a heart. I keep it in a jar of formaldehyde on my shelf, right next to my computer.
/

Ummm.. you know I have a bum heart… if you’ve got an extra, could I buy it? :)

247 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:32pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

Thank you. I do have a heart. I keep it in a jar of formaldehyde on my shelf, right next to my computer.
/

Well, I have my X’s left nut mounted over my fire-place.

248 JeremyR  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:39pm

re: #178 Pianobuff

Whenever I see O with the military, I always think of that scene in the Sound of Music where the Baroness is feigning interest in playing a ball game with the Von Trapp children.

I’d say more akin to Brian Keiths fiancee in Parent Trap, plotting how to dispose of the brat quickly after the wedding, then pilfer the vault and make off with the fathers fortunes.

249 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:50:47pm

re: #96 freetoken

On your blog you clearly imply that President Obama won’t comment/condemn the AR killer because of something to do with the President’s own (latent/hidden?) Islamic tendencies.

Go to the head of the class, genius.

250 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:51:14pm

re: #80 sbvft contributor

Try again:

[Link: hotair.com…]

“A little food for thought from Newsbusters:

At the time of this writing, there are nearly 7,000 references to “George Tiller” in Google News.
There are under 500 for “William Long.”
George Tiller, of course, was the Kansas abortion doctor murdered Sunday morning by a man who allegedly had political and religious motives.
William Long was the 23-year-old military recruiter murdered Monday morning by a man who allegedly had political and religious motives.
George Tiller dedicated his life to killing fetuses.
William Long dedicated his to killing terrorists.
One story still has ‘legs,’ the other is yesterday’s news. Nice priorities you’ve got there, MSM.”


Putting “Newsbusters” in the same sentence with “Thought” is a good way to cause the
universe to collapse in on itself.

The recruiting center shootings were all over
the news when it happened. It was a top
story on every American news source online
as well.

If you can find so many more instances of “George Tiller” in Google news, it’s because he’s been a well known figure for years, esepecially since the time he was shot in 1993. If you simply Google his name (not the “news) section, you get 2.5 million hits.

251 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:51:38pm

re: #213 Dark_Falcon

And in failing to do so he undercuts his speech tomorrow. His refusal to name the things that attacked America will be taken as weakness.

What’s he gonna say tomorrow, pretty please unclench your fist? dang this is upside down. Grow a pair o!

252 poteen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:51:40pm

re: #240 NY Nana

Bingo! (born I was, in Illinois)

253 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:51:58pm

re: #237 Nevergiveup

I know how you feel, but still tomorrow’s speech while hard for me to listen to will be important. Does anyone know when EST it is on?


It is on at 6 AM our time. I am going to listen to it. I want to hear what he has to say, even though I suspect my blood pressure will be up by 6:30.

254 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:00pm

Godspeed, Pvt. William Andrew Long. My deepest sympathies to your family and friends.

255 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:02pm

Will the media condemn Obama for skipping Long’s funeral?

Wait! Did I just ask a stupid question?

D’OH!

256 theheat  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:08pm

re: #159 turn

With two acts of domestic terrorism within days, it isn’t going to be optional whether Obama decides to address the issues. Too many people are pissed off about this to get swept under the rug. In the past month we’re seen a couple of hometown jihadis come off the rails, and then the Tiller murder - all by zealots.

But I wouldn’t think O’Reilly or Hannity are going to be the shining knights to “do right” by this situation. They do a whole lot of wrong with no encouragement, whatsoever. Not only are they inflammatory for the sake of being inflammatory, but some of those they keep close to their vest are pretty gd disgusting. Fox, itself, has become a haven and sounding board for all kinds of flavors of wingnuts.

257 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:10pm

re: #247 MandyManners

Well, I have my X’s left nut mounted over my fire-place.

Ok, you win!

258 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:15pm

re: #247 MandyManners

not both of them?

259 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:37pm

re: #240 NY Nana

Bottom line? He is nothing more than a typical product of the Chicago political machine. And I say that as a Bostonian by birth….and we all know what that means.

You still pahk your cah in Hahvahd yahd?

260 jorline  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:44pm

re: #221 quickjustice

Look, Jorline—

If we’re really, really nice to those Muslims who hate us, and we apologize for all the bad things we’ve done to them, then maybe they won’t be angry any more, and hurt us./

Ah, yes…let’s drink from the troff of life.
/

Return me…I need reprogramming.

261 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:52:48pm

re: #247 MandyManners

Well, I have my X’s left nut mounted over my fire-place.

Ouch. Anything in the curio cabinet?

262 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:53:01pm

re: #172 SteveC

This soldier looks a lot like a young man I sat beside on my flight to Denver just before Memorial Day. Young, just married, planning to make the military his career…. I’m sure that is a common story.

He’s got a tour in Afghanistan coming up late this year. I have no idea of his name, but I’ll keep him in my thoughts. It was an honor to ride beside one of America’s heroes.

(I handed him his bag from the overhead bin and thought to myself that I’m not even worthy to touch it.)

sure you are. i bet he was glad to sit by someone like you. someone who treated him w/ respect.

263 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:53:20pm

re: #250 Hawaii69

Putting “Newsbusters” in the same sentence with “Thought” is a good way to cause the universe to collapse in on itself.

What is wrong with Newsbusters? Another site that is not what I thought it was?

264 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:53:37pm

re: #245 Walter L. Newton

I would say, truthfully, that Mathew Shepard was a martyr in a sense. I really don’t think he deserves to be put in the same category as Dr. Tiller.

Even though Dr. Tiller in NO WAY deserved what happened to him, there was a lot of contraversery surrounding him.

Mathew Shepard was just a young man who was killed for being gay.

Not a legit comparison in my opinion.

Not by a long stretch!

265 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:53:37pm

re: #217 pink freud

Our resident liberals are noticeable silent on this topic. Where’s all that soaring mouth-full-of-marbles rhetoric you guys have spewing lately?

Who, avanti?

266 AFVetWife  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:53:49pm

re: #102 Charles
I totally agree. The big problems are the lack of a statement from Pvt. Long’s CIC, and the lack of coverage in the MSM.

267 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:54:40pm

re: #206 yochanan

I wish there was a “I feel ya, man” button. I can only upding.

268 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:54:50pm

re: #264 MandyManners

Not by a long stretch!

Since we’re going after Obama right now, Mandy this would seem to be a good time for your catchphrase.

269 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:01pm

re: #265 turn

Who, avanti?

No.

270 NY Nana  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:08pm

re: #223 yochanan

Yochanan,

Ignoring him is what 99% of us want to do, but IMHO, we cannot afford to take our eyes of his every move, every word, for a second. He is a clear and present danger…our kids and grandkids are at the highest risk that I can ever remember in my lifetime.

OT:How is your brave son doing in the IDF?

271 freetoken  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:10pm

re: #249 JammieWearingFool

The question for you JammieWF is this: do you want to be a WND-class blogger, or do you want to be more than that?

272 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:12pm

re: #257 Walter L. Newton

Ok, you win!

I win?! What do I win?

273 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:28pm

re: #219 JammieWearingFool

Let’s take it a step further, Killgore. Can you name me a significant tragedy of, oh, the last 20 years the left has not tried to exploit for political gain?

Yeah, what’s this about let no good crisis go to waste KT?

274 brookly red  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:34pm

re: #256 theheat

With two acts of domestic terrorism within days, it isn’t going to be optional whether Obama decides to address the issues. Too many people are pissed off about this to get swept under the rug. In the past month we’re seen a couple of hometown jihadis come off the rails, and then the Tiller murder - all by zealots.

But I wouldn’t think O’Reilly or Hannity are going to be the shining knights to “do right” by this situation. They do a whole lot of wrong with no encouragement, whatsoever. Not only are they inflammatory for the sake of being inflammatory, but some of those they keep close to their vest are pretty gd disgusting. Fox, itself, has become a haven and sounding board for all kinds of flavors of wingnuts.

When he does address the issue it will be with a call for gun control.

275 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:41pm

re: #102 Charles

Private Long was killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

George Tiller was also killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

These cases are amazingly alike in many ways.

Here’s an R. A. Lafferty quote I posted at Protein Wisdom the other day, on fanatics:

How is a person or a world unmade or unformed? First, by being deformed. And following the deforming is the collapsing. The tenuous balance is broken. Insanity is induced easily under the name of the higher sanity. Then the little candle that is in each head is blown out on the pretext that the great cosmic light can better be seen without it.

276 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:47pm

re: #272 MandyManners

I win?! What do I win?

the right nut

277 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:55:57pm

re: #245 Walter L. Newton

Kind of like a guy getting killed for being a soldier on an American city street.

278 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:56:00pm

re: #265 turn

Who, avanti?

avanti never froths. He’s been known to spew hopeychange, but he’s never gotten pissed about the wrong things.

279 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:56:02pm

re: #272 MandyManners

I win?! What do I win?

The other nut, I found it in a dumpster.

280 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:56:08pm

re: #242 Thanos they fould this guy with an arsenal in the suv; the fbi already had him on their list; i would say him getting arrested in yemen before also would be incriminating BUT i can wait for the report(i won’t be shocked if this turns out to be “organized”)

281 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:56:18pm

re: #258 yochanan

not both of them?

I keep the right one in one of my filing cabinets. Under “D-F” for “Don’t Ever Fuck with me”.

282 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:56:45pm

re: #261 Pianobuff

Ouch. Anything in the curio cabinet?

Gah. No. All that dusting.

283 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:56:50pm

re: #224 Occasional Reader

What he said, well done OR.

284 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:56:51pm

re: #279 Walter L. Newton

The other nut, I found it in a dumpster.

Walters a pervert

285 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:56:53pm

re: #267 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

my father was only 43 and only 6 months out of the military after serving 25 years 5 in the navy and 20 in the army.

286 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:07pm

re: #277 1SG(ret)

Kind of like a guy getting killed for being a soldier on an American city street.

In the least. That comparison by Sanity Inspector was sick, IMHO.

287 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:15pm

re: #242 Thanos

The JTTF had their suspicions about this guy because of his trip to Yemen. Expect to see all of his current and past associations investigated to see if there’s anyone else involved. The computer files will be scoured for any details that might lead to others involved, but for now, the investigation sees him operating on his own.

That could change as new information becomes available.

288 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:37pm

re: #284 albusteve

Walters a pervert

albusteve … only Maisie knows for sure …


/jk Walter …

289 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:41pm
290 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:42pm

re: #276 albusteve

the right nut

You’re awful generous with Walter’s’s nuts there, steve. ;-)

291 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:56pm

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

Since we’re going after Obama right now, Mandy this would seem to be a good time for your catchphrase.

I understand what you’re saying but, I just cannot bring myself to post it. I believe that this might have happened no matter who was in the White House.

292 Racer X  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:57:58pm

re: #102 Charles

Private Long was killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

George Tiller was also killed by a religious fanatic, who rationalized the murder with religious reasons.

These cases are amazingly alike in many ways.

Sorry boss, I see only a few similarities.

The asshole who murdered Dr. Tiller knew of him, and had a mental derangement that drove him to seek out and murder the man.

Pvt. William Andrew Long gave his life for his country. An enemy combatant took the battlefield to America, and ruthlessly murdered Pvt. Long without even knowing the man. Pvt. Long is a hero.

293 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:58:03pm
New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said investigators found Google Earth images of various places, including Times Square. In Atlanta, FBI Agent Stephen Emmett said Muhammad had information regarding a “Jewish entity within our jurisdiction.”

I’m glad this man was caught. I’m very sorry a soldier died before that happened though. Perhaps a jailhouse jihadi memo could get leaked by DHS.

294 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:58:07pm

re: #232 albusteve

ha, this really is starting to piss me off. I hope Charles gives me a warning.

295 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:58:29pm

re: #251 turn

What’s he gonna say tomorrow, pretty please unclench your fist? dang this is upside down. Grow a pair o!

how about:
“Recently two of MY soldiers were gunned down by a misguided fanatic whose hate was fueled by evil and twisted religious zeal propagated by evil men bent on world domination. THIS MUST BE STOPPED!
(yes, he shouts it.)

296 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:58:29pm

re: #270 NY Nana

he is doing ok he will be in the reserves soon enough, and thursday they will be moving to kirat arba

297 jorline  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:00pm

Excuse me…I seem to have misplaced my right nut….anyone seen it?

298 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:01pm

re: #278 Dark_Falcon

avanti never froths. He’s been known to spew hopeychange, but he’s never gotten pissed about the wrong things.

Right. Avanti, no matter our political differences, has always been polite and respectful to me.

299 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:23pm

re: #271 freetoken

The question for you JammieWF is this: do you want to be a WND-class blogger, or do you want to be more than that?

What in the world?!

300 NY Nana  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:34pm

re: #252 poteen

Bingo! (born I was, in Illinois)

Oh, boy…we can cry together!

301 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:36pm

re: #287 lawhawk

The JTTF had their suspicions about this guy because of his trip to Yemen. Expect to see all of his current and past associations investigated to see if there’s anyone else involved. The computer files will be scoured for any details that might lead to others involved, but for now, the investigation sees him operating on his own.

That could change as new information becomes available.

He’s more than Sudden Jihad Syndrome. But a lone wolf so to speak from current data.

302 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 6:59:47pm

re: #294 turn

ha, this really is starting to piss me off. I hope Charles gives me a warning.

nope….you just wake up with the smell of ozone wafting in the air

303 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:02pm

re: #181 pink freud

They know we are watching. It is obvious they do not care. I believe that what you and I consider to be the domain of being a citizen is now considered by 0bama et al. to be equated to being a subject.

well, we may be ‘subjects’ but so far there still are election in this country and he
is going to lose by a land slide next time, he will eat it worse than carter.
acorn, notwithstanding. he’s going down.

304 SteveC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:06pm

re: #274 brookly red

When he does address the issue it will be with a call for gun control.

I’m all for gun control. Gun control is hitting what you aim at.

“Can you boys shoot?”

Trinity pulls his gun and fires, lighting the cigarette of a man sitting about 75 feet away. Bambino pulls his gun and fires, extinguishing the cigarette.

“Yep, you boys can shoot. You’re hired!”

305 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:09pm

re: #280 gtrs

they fould this guy with an arsenal in the suv; the fbi already had him on their list; i would say him getting arrested in yemen before also would be incriminating BUT i can wait for the report(i won’t be shocked if this turns out to be “organized”)

Those are all factors, I’m still wondering if there will be a tape. For this guy, I doubt it. If there is a tape, that clearly confirms all the connections.

What I am getting at is sometimes they find a madman and mentor him towards action, and sometimes there is a cell and organization. We need to find which it is and cut that thread.

306 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:20pm

re: #247 MandyManners

Well, I have my X’s left nut mounted over my fire-place.

Just curious, left or right? ha

307 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:26pm

re: #291 MandyManners

I understand what you’re saying but, I just cannot bring myself to post it. I believe that this might have happened no matter who was in the White House.

True, but McCain would have mentioned it and would have condemned it in person.

308 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:27pm

re: #288 JacksonTn

albusteve … only Maisie knows for sure …

/jk Walter …

Maisey

309 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:46pm

re: #263 Crimsonfisted

What is wrong with Newsbusters? Another site that is not what I thought it was?

re: #214 nyc redneck

BINGO
has he ever talking in a disparaging way abt. moslems or islam?
or ever asked them to apologize or even acknowledge the horrors they have visited on the world.
he should ask the saudi king to apologize for 9-11.


I don’t recall our most recent ex-president doing any of those things either.

310 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:00:53pm

Oh, and how is Obama going to counter Ahmadinejad’s incessant exhortations to genocide and undermining Israel’s right to leave peacefully among its neighbors.

Ahamdinejad again engaged in his usual Holocaust denial, which is something he does with alarming regularity - you could almost set your clock by it. Where are the other Arabs to drown out his inanities? Do they agree (some, like Abbas wrote their thesis pushing Holocaust denial)? Or are they simply giving their silent assent to this Israel bashing because it furthers their own goals - namely to remain in power and deflect attention from their own failed regimes and policies towards their own people.

311 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:01:01pm

re: #276 albusteve

the right nut

Oh, my stars. I just picked my butt up off the floor. Best comeback ever.

312 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:01:09pm

re: #254 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good one goldie

313 Mich-again  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:01:19pm

In his official statement on the murder of Tiller, Obama said he was shocked and outraged. In his statement on the murder of William Long, Obama expressed sadness. More than a slight difference there.

314 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:01:21pm

re: #301 jcm

i am not so sure about the lone wolf thing he appears to have trained in Yemen or Somalia

315 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:01:28pm

re: #287 lawhawk

Yes, see my comment above. Was it a mentor, or is it a cell with a loose cannon?

316 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:01:34pm

re: #279 Walter L. Newton

The other nut, I found it in a dumpster.

Oh, dear. Oh, dear.

317 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:02:07pm

re: #301 jcm

That was my suspicion as well. It remains to be seen if he’s going to be a lone wolf, or part of a larger group.

318 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:02:07pm

I’m listening to Axelrod on NPR. Motherfucking moron.

319 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:02:38pm

re: #313 Mich-again

In his official statement on the murder of Tiller, Obama said he was shocked and outraged. In his statement on the murder of William Long, Obama expressed sadness. More than a slight difference there.

No kidding. And those statement are not just made off the cuff, they are prepared. Shitty choice of words, IMHO.

320 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:02:41pm

Has there been any news at all about how Pvt. Ezeagwula is doing?

321 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:02:42pm

re: #314 yochanan

i am not so sure about the lone wolf thing he appears to have trained in Yemen or Somalia

At this point he doesn’t seem to be part of cell, but that might change.

322 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:02:57pm

Later Lizards.

323 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:02pm

re: #303 nyc redneck

well, we may be ‘subjects’ but so far there still are election in this country and he
is going to lose by a land slide next time, he will eat it worse than carter.
acorn, notwithstanding. he’s going down.

Don’t discount Acorn. They worry the hell out of me. They’re the wild card that we can seemingly do nothing about.

324 brookly red  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:09pm

re: #316 MandyManners

Oh, dear. Oh, dear.

1 800 LAWYER ?

325 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:28pm

re: #321 jcm

At this point he doesn’t seem to be part of cell, but that might change.

how ironic

326 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:35pm

re: #297 jorline

Excuse me…I seem to have misplaced my right nut….anyone seen it?

Have your divorce attorney call her divorce attorney.

327 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:48pm

Gotta’ git. bbl

328 yochanan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:03:50pm

re: #318 MandyManners

mandy now you have to go find some motherfucking morons and say you are sorry for comparing them to axelrod.

329 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:04:38pm

Charles, might I request a new open thread (or music thread, something like that)?

Clearly, folks here want to chat and joke around a little… nothing wrong with that, at the end of a long day… but it would be good if it could be moved out of the “RIP, Pvt. Long” thread, in my opinion.

330 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:04:41pm

re: #256 theheat

Hence my “gasp”. I couldn’t think of anybody more likely to air it was the only point I was making. It needs to come out, I don’t care who does it. Hey what was the second act anyway? Like I’ve said - out of the loop.

331 Mich-again  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:04:45pm

re: #305 Thanos

What I am getting at is sometimes they find a madman and mentor him towards action, and sometimes there is a cell and organization. We need to find which it is and cut that thread.

There is a Nation of Islam center in Little Rock but their website didn’t have much to wade through other than garden variety crapola from Farrakhan.

332 jorline  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:04:47pm

re: #326 MandyManners

Have your divorce attorney call her divorce attorney.

lol…do I ask her to cough it up?

333 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:04:55pm

re: #305 Thanos i agree with you; i am just saying that there are too many “coincidences” here for me; the fbi’s joint terrorism task force was on this guy’s trail before the shooting(i think he will get what is coming to him; be it federal OR state)

334 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:13pm

The names Tiller & Long in the same sentence is upsetting to me.

335 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:18pm

And the U.S. Marshals will be arriving at the recruiting offices to offer protection when?

/”0” isn’t sad or angry enough……..

336 SteveC  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:22pm

re: #328 yochanan

mandy now you have to go find some motherfucking morons and say you are sorry for comparing them to axelrod.

“A lot of people have been apologizing to us lately. But who’s Axelrod?”

337 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:26pm

re: #312 turn

Good one goldie

Thanks. It breaks my heart. Doesn’t he look like such a nice young man?

338 theheat  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:26pm

re: #274 brookly red

I certainly hope not, but I can guarantee there would be a call for gun control would certainly come before any call for religion control. I’m sure that’s true. Either one would piss of whole lotta people.

339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:33pm

Pvt. Andrew Long.

Sigh.

340 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:42pm

re: #271 freetoken

The question for you JammieWF is this: do you want to be a WND-class blogger, or do you want to be more than that?

Piss off. I don’t have to answer to some nonentity like you. You want to troll my site and cherry-pick, have at it. I say what’s on my mind at any given time and I’m not concerned with what some pissant troll like you thinks about it.

341 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:05:51pm

re: #329 Occasional Reader
AGREED; good post

342 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:06:29pm

re: #278 Dark_Falcon

avanti never froths. He’s been known to spew hopeychange, but he’s never gotten pissed about the wrong things.

ok DF, but who was it?

343 AFVetWife  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:07:00pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

And let’s not forget that both Bushes were IN the military, as well.

344 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:07:29pm

OT

No name Texas Rangers leading A-Rod led Yanks in the top of the 9th
4-2

Got to love that A-Rod…
Heh

345 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:07:37pm

OT, but for my fellow blues fans, Koko Taylor died today.

[Link: blogs.usatoday.com…]

346 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:07:45pm

In the case of Mr. Abdulhakim Muhammad, Islam seems to have functioned as a system for the self-amplification of the worst aspects of human nature, & it seems to be possessed of a nefarious demon if you ask me.

347 snowcrash  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:08:08pm

re: #271 freetoken

The question for you JammieWF is this: do you want to be a WND-class blogger, or do you want to be more than that?


That is uncalled for. He blogs his opinions. Should he change them for greater readership?

348 NY Nana  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:08:27pm

re: #282 MandyManners

Gah. No. All that dusting.

Now you tell me?

I have enough tchotkes to fill a barn!

But the ones that are priceless are the ones my 4 kids made and the ones my grandkids make now.

349 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:08:50pm

re: #344 The Shadow Do

OT

No name Texas Rangers leading A-Rod led Yanks in the top of the 9th
4-2

Got to love that A-Rod…
Heh

That makes the series score 14-7 now. Don’t forget to miss the bottom of the ninth.

350 Velvet Elvis  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:08:58pm

I’ve not been following this story as close as I perhaps should have. Do we know if the shooter was practicing Prislam (radicalized in prison)?

I’ve been worried about the spread of radical islam in US prisons for a while. It’s particularly dangerous because these are people who hate government authority to begin with. Indoctrination with radical Islam gives their hate a whole ontology.

351 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:08:59pm

re: #310 lawhawk
he is currently in the fight for his electoral life in iran; an election, i might add, that i think he is going to lose; good riddance to “mr. president holocaust denier”

352 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:16pm

re: #345 Mad Al-Jaffee

OT, but for my fellow blues fans, Koko Taylor died today.

[Link: blogs.usatoday.com…]

WHAT!…omg…a personal favorite of mine

353 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:30pm
354 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:49pm

re: #320 Pvt Bin Jammin

Last I heard he was serious but stable. Expected to recover.

355 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:50pm

ot; costa rica just scored in the first 2 minutes against the USA soccer team

356 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:09:51pm

re: #295 IslandLibertarian

President Bush, is that you? I wonder what he and Cheney are thinking about this weakling right now.

357 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:01pm

re: #351 gtrs

he is currently in the fight for his electoral life in iran; an election, i might add, that i think he is going to lose; good riddance to “mr. president holocaust denier”

And Obama gave him a hand. Saying Iran had the right to nuclear energy.

358 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:03pm

re: #331 Mich-again

There is a Nation of Islam center in Little Rock but their website didn’t have much to wade through other than garden variety crapola from Farrakhan.

Yeah, there’s not a lot of info to track back on this guy, he seems to have kept relatively low profile. I did some initial digging didn’t turn up a scent, but the feds seem to know a lot about him. That’s why I’m guessing mentor, lone wolf jihadi spun up through the internet, or cell. My money’s on the first, and the feds know who the mentor was.

359 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:13pm

re: #342 turn

ok DF, but who was it?

Who was what?

360 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:21pm

re: #311 MandyManners

Oh, my stars. I just picked my butt up off the floor. Best comeback ever.

Your butt fell off?

Tighten the nut.

/

361 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:32pm

Couldn’t log in to upding this quick enough.

Now that I’ve done that, it’s a shame I can only upding it once (barring a resurrection of some of my sock puppets).

362 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:47pm

re: #280 gtrs

they fould this guy with an arsenal in the suv; the fbi already had him on their list; i would say him getting arrested in yemen before also would be incriminating BUT i can wait for the report(i won’t be shocked if this turns out to be “organized”)

What was the arsenal in the SUV? I hadn’t heard that.

363 poteen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:58pm

re: #300 NY Nana

Sad commentary,huh? I often wonder when the Daley machine became the Obama machine? Or if it really did.

364 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:10:58pm

re: #297 jorline

Excuse me…I seem to have misplaced my right nut….anyone seen it?

I know they are hard to see, maybe you should check again.
/ha

365 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:11:09pm

re: #354 1SG(ret)
i heard he is doing well(recovery to be expected; still praying for him here)

366 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:11:16pm

re: #354 1SG(ret)

Last I heard he was serious but stable. Expected to recover.

Thanks. Glad to hear that. Will keep him in my thoughts and prayers.

367 AFVetWife  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:11:24pm

re: #185 Mich-again

This statement was released only to the Arkansas media - why not to the entire media?

368 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:11:39pm

re: #100 hazzyday

If he was converted in prison on the face of the koran then I am not in favor of giving people in prisons time with their Imam and the Koran. Something perverse is going on there.

Let’s analyze -

Fanatical Muslim - someone who follows Mohammed’s example
Fanatical Christian - someone who doesn’t follow Jesus’ example

The difference is lost on a bunch of people who would equate the two faiths.

369 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:12:17pm

re: #362 Occasional Reader

What was the arsenal in the SUV? I hadn’t heard that.

Media: an arsenal is a rifle, a handgun and 10 rounds of ammo for each.

370 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:12:30pm

re: #362 Occasional Reader

What was the arsenal in the SUV? I hadn’t heard that.

shotgun and pistol…plus the semi-auto

371 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:12:33pm

re: #357 jcm
due respect to this thread; i think your post is nonsense but i won’t take it further(if we get an open thread i would be happy for more discussion on that)

372 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:12:39pm

re: #292 Racer X

Sorry boss, I see only a few similarities.

The asshole who murdered Dr. Tiller knew of him, and had a mental derangement that drove him to seek out and murder the man.

Pvt. William Andrew Long gave his life for his country. An enemy combatant took the battlefield to America, and ruthlessly murdered Pvt. Long without even knowing the man. Pvt. Long is a hero.

Let me count the ways:

Pvt. Long was murdered by a religious fanatic.
Dr. Tiller was murdered by a religious fanatic.

Pvt. Long was murdered because he belonged to a group that was demonized by the murderer’s religion.
Dr. Tiller was murdered because he belonged to a group that was demonized by the murderer’s religion.

Pvt. Long was murdered because he was a public symbol to the killer.
Dr. Tiller was murdered because he was a public symbol to the killer.

Pvt. Long was murdered near a symbolic place (a recruiting office).
Dr. Tiller was murdered near a symbolic place (a church).

I could go on, but it gets depressing listing the similarities. The bottom line is that religious fanaticism is responsible for both of these crimes.

373 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:12:43pm

re: #338 theheat

Well there are plenty of laws on the books already that amount to religion control re what we are talking about here, it is just a matter of enforcing them. For instance it is illegal to incite to violence.

374 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:12:46pm

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pvt. Andrew Long.

Sigh.

And his picture is sharing a page with Bill Ayers.

/spit

375 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:12:52pm

re: #302 albusteve

nope….you just wake up with the smell of ozone wafting in the air


ha, that would be a sinking feeling trying to log in and then OMG what have I done!

376 sbvft contributor  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:12:53pm

re: #250 Hawaii69

Putting “Newsbusters” in the same sentence with “Thought” is a good way to cause the
universe to collapse in on itself.

You must be lost homeslice. Here’s where you belong:

[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

377 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:13:17pm

re: #361 Fenway_Nation

Couldn’t log in to upding this quick enough.

Now that I’ve done that, it’s a shame I can only upding it once (barring a resurrection of some of my sock puppets).

I seldom upding threads, I just don’t think to do it. Me needs some kinda reminder…
How bout placing the button at the bottom (or a duplicate) near the comment window?

378 NY Nana  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:13:32pm

re: #313 Mich-again

I diagnose a classic case of crocodile tears.

379 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:13:58pm

re: #375 turn

ha, that would be a sinking feeling trying to log in and then OMG what have I done!

it was…I was horrified actually

380 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:14:18pm

re: #369 jcm

Media: an arsenal is a rifle, a handgun and 10 rounds of ammo for each.

Yeah, I remember when the MSM breathlessly described those neo-Nazi mouth breathers who had boasted about assassinating Pres. Obama as having “dozens” of rounds of ammunition. Dozens!

381 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:14:25pm

re: #370 albusteve

shotgun and pistol…plus the semi-auto

Lord, I’ve owned like twelve “arsenals” in my life.

/

382 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:14:35pm

re: #368 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Let’s analyze -

Fanatical Muslim - someone who follows Mohammed’s example
Fanatical Christian - someone who doesn’t follow Jesus’ example

The difference is lost on a bunch of people who would equate the two faiths.

Agreed. Upding.

383 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:15:19pm

re: #305 Thanos

Those are all factors, I’m still wondering if there will be a tape. For this guy, I doubt it. If there is a tape, that clearly confirms all the connections.

What I am getting at is sometimes they find a madman and mentor him towards action, and sometimes there is a cell and organization. We need to find which it is and cut that thread.

Hi Thanos, didn’t he visit Yemen? This could very likely be an organization imo. But then he was being watched closely IIRC so that makes me wonder.

384 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:15:42pm

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

I hear all the time from the left-leaning people in my area that all religions are basically good. It is pretty useless to debate them on it too.

385 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:15:44pm

re: #349 JammieWearingFool

That makes the series score 14-7 now. Don’t forget to miss the bottom of the ninth.

I think Alex is underpaid, don’t you?

386 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:16:45pm

re: #383 turn

Hi Thanos, didn’t he visit Yemen? This could very likely be an organization imo. But then he was being watched closely IIRC so that makes me wonder.

turn … well, I bet it cost some jack to get to Yemen … wonder where he got his money from … wonder if he had a job … I bet they will find all that out and I hope it is reported and not swept under the rug …

387 poteen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:16:47pm

Who has jurisdiction in Pvt. Longs murder? AR or fedeal because it was a recruiting station?

388 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:17:01pm

This terrible tragedy reminds me of chiaospirit’s friend who was shot in the heart, outside his home, on the fourth of July a couple of years ago. The young man was in the Air Force, IIRC. He survived. Wonder if the shooter was found and what the motive turned out to be.

389 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:17:14pm

re: #385 The Shadow Do

I think Alex is underpaid, don’t you?

Hell no. Teixeira maybe, but not A-Rod.

390 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:17:53pm

re: #347 snowcrash

That is uncalled for. He blogs his opinions. Should he change them for greater readership?

I guess from here on I should have some douchebag troll with a BHO avatar pre-screen my blogposts so they don’t offend anyone. And how dare I be snarky or have a sense of humor?

391 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:18:01pm

re: #389 JammieWearingFool

Hell no. Teixeira maybe, but not A-Rod.

Needed the money to buy all those vowels.

/

392 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:18:17pm

re: #371 gtrs

due respect to this thread; i think your post is nonsense but i won’t take it further(if we get an open thread i would be happy for more discussion on that)

Obama: Iran may have right to nuclear energy

Obama agrees with Dinnerjacket, that gives him a boost in Iranian politics.

Not nonsense in the least, Obama needs to think about what he says.

Obama screwed the pooch wish the Mad Mullahs a Happy Nooruz (the mullahs hate Nooruz). Obama so far has only encouraged the Mad Mullahs and their puppet Dinnerjacket.

393 brookly red  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:18:18pm

re: #380 Occasional Reader

Yeah, I remember when the MSM breathlessly described those neo-Nazi mouth breathers who had boasted about assassinating Pres. Obama as having “dozens” of rounds of ammunition. Dozens!

/I hate the looks I get when I go into the store & ask for 1 bullet, sheesh.

394 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:18:21pm

OT: AP is reporting that the US is requesting that the Sadr City base be kept open after the deadline.

395 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:18:33pm

re: #337 Pvt Bin Jammin


Yes he does. Too bad they didn’t have a weapon handy to shoot back.

396 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:18:37pm

Ranger win.
Heh.
Again.

397 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:19:13pm

Semi-OT: who is the first major blogger/pundit to embrace the conspiracy theory that the Tiller assassination was a government plot to confiscate the guns and end the Tea Parties?
I’m betting on Glenn Beck.
Any other contenders?

398 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:19:32pm

From the Saudi press Obama on Iran:

“After the first round of talks, King Abdullah and the US president broke off into a private session that lasted at least two hours.

The US president pointed out that leaders in the region should be more candid about their concerns.

“Stop saying one thing behind closed doors and saying something else publicly,” he said. “There are a lot of Arab countries more concerned about Iran developing a nuclear weapon than the ‘threat’ from Israel, but won’t admit it.”

399 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:19:47pm
400 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:19:51pm

re: #380 Occasional Reader

Yeah, I remember when the MSM breathlessly described those neo-Nazi mouth breathers who had boasted about assassinating Pres. Obama as having “dozens” of rounds of ammunition. Dozens!

Ohh, I wonder what they’d call what I have…

Dozens of magazines…..

401 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:19:53pm

re: #392 jcm

Obama: Iran may have right to nuclear energy

Obama agrees with Dinnerjacket, that gives him a boost in Iranian politics.

Not nonsense in the least, Obama needs to think about what he says.

Obama screwed the pooch wish the Mad Mullahs a Happy Nooruz (the mullahs hate Nooruz). Obama so far has only encouraged the Mad Mullahs and their puppet Dinnerjacket.

They Mullahs are laughing at Obama, just like they laughed at Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr. and Reagan……They have been poking us in the eye with a stick since 1979 and we have done NOTHING

402 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:20:10pm

re: #350 Conservative Moonbat

I’ve not been following this story as close as I perhaps should have. Do we know if the shooter was practicing Prislam (radicalized in prison)?

I’ve been worried about the spread of radical islam in US prisons for a while. It’s particularly dangerous because these are people who hate government authority to begin with. Indoctrination with radical Islam gives their hate a whole ontology.

Have no idea, but wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out he was.

403 NY Nana  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:20:33pm

re: #363 poteen

Sad commentary,huh? I often wonder when the Daley machine became the Obama machine? Or if it really did.

He is the Manchurian Candidate….and has been programmed by aliens, so help me.

/Heard about Tony Rezco lately?

404 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:21:20pm

re: #359 Dark_Falcon

Who was what?

Oh never mind, the resident liberal.

405 JacksonTn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:21:22pm

re: #397 Killgore Trout

Semi-OT: who is the first major blogger/pundit to embrace the conspiracy theory that the Tiller assassination was a government plot to confiscate the guns and end the Tea Parties?
I’m betting on Glenn Beck.
Any other contenders?

Killgore … I thought you were in the basement playing video games … exploding some heads or something …

/just kidding .. and I have no idea … who? …

406 jorline  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:21:44pm

My sister just sent me a text saying, I hear u text now and u like it.
I just replied…texting sucks.

bbl
I need to call her and straighten her ass out.

407 Pianobuff  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:21:50pm

re: #398 avanti

From the Saudi press Obama on Iran:

“After the first round of talks, King Abdullah and the US president broke off into a private session that lasted at least two hours.

The US president pointed out that leaders in the region should be more candid about their concerns.

“Stop saying one thing behind closed doors and saying something else publicly,” he said. “There are a lot of Arab countries more concerned about Iran developing a nuclear weapon than the ‘threat’ from Israel, but won’t admit it.”

I wish I still had the source to link, but I remember watching video of an Arab leaders summit (6 months ago maybe?) where many expressed concern. It was a little surreal seeing Qadaffi rail on the topic.

408 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:21:52pm

re: #401 Desert Dog

They Mullahs are laughing at Obama, just like they laughed at Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr. and Reagan……They have been poking us in the eye with a stick since 1979 and we have done NOTHING

Reagan failed to follow up, follow up the Embassy or the Beirut Barracks which was a Tehran bit of action also. I class that failure to follow up as Reagan’s greatest failing.

409 brookly red  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:06pm

re: #400 jcm

Ohh, I wonder what they’d call what I have…

Dozens of magazines…..

a reading room?

410 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:08pm

re: #395 turn

Yes he does. Too bad they didn’t have a weapon handy to shoot back.

Indeed.

411 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:08pm

Has there been a thread in the last month where KT didn’t work in those two words Tea Parties?

412 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:12pm

re: #353 taxfreekiller

Sister Leonella Sgorbati.
Professor Liviu Librescu
Alex McIlveen
Abu Risha
Pearl Cornioley
Ft. Lt. James Nicholson

413 sbvft contributor  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:30pm

re: #320 Pvt Bin Jammin

Has there been any news at all about how Pvt. Ezeagwula is doing?


No. And their won’t be. Oour watchdog media never covers the suffering of those who survive terrorist attacks. The burns. The disfigurement. The pain. The psychological damage. They grudgingly report the initial attack (usually on page C48) and then forget it.

414 AFVetWife  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:32pm

re: #237 Nevergiveup

FoxNews is covering it live at 6 AM EDT.

415 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:34pm

re: #400 jcm

Ohh, I wonder what they’d call what I have…

Dozens of magazines…..

I have about 250 rounds on hand, between 12 gauge and .45ACP. That probably puts me toward the “light” side in terms of gun owners.

Wish I had been on hand with just ONE when this creep pulled up to carry out his little “jihad”.

416 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:34pm

re: #379 albusteve

it was…I was horrified actually

You got whacked, I didn’t know that.

417 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:38pm

re: #397 Killgore Trout

Semi-OT: who is the first major blogger/pundit to embrace the conspiracy theory that the Tiller assassination was a government plot to confiscate the guns and end the Tea Parties?
I’m betting on Glenn Beck.
Any other contenders?

We’ll answer you question when you answer the whole slew of questions up thread that a number of Lizards have put forward to you.

418 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:39pm

re: #374 OldLineTexan

Side by Side no less!

419 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:45pm

re: #406 jorline

My sister just sent me a text saying, I hear u text now and u like it.
I just replied…texting sucks.

bbl
I need to call her and straighten her ass out.

Dr sis txt is teh hawt. OMG.

/

420 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:55pm

re: #391 OldLineTexan

Needed the money to buy all those vowels.

/

Spelling bee name.

Oh well, they lost. Figures. Teixeira wasn’t playing!

421 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:22:59pm

re: #309 Hawaii69

I don’t recall our most recent ex-president doing any of those things either.

do you recall that pres. bush was proud of america and never went anywhere and groveled before other countries and apologized for his own. NEVER.

o, however makes it a practice to do just that. he is an apologist for america. and will sit complacent in an audience and listen attentively when commie thugs trash america. he is a disgrace.
period
my point is that w/ all his apologizing, why has it never occurred to him to criticize any country guilty of the most grievous transgressions.
demanding an apology from them is not on his list.
america has done so much to make the world a better place.
and he puts us last.
this is unconscionable

422 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:23:33pm

re: #381 OldLineTexan a leaked fbi memo was describing this guy and his “doings”; they used the term “arsenal” in the memo; i will give the fbi the benefit of the doubt here because the guy was already in their sights(i just wish they had gotten to him sooner; i don’t care about what vernacular they choose to use)

423 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:23:38pm

re: #376 sbvft contributor

You must be lost homeslice. Here’s where you belong:

There are two kinds of people. Those who think there are two kinds of people, and those who know better.

You sound like the ideologue here, “friend”.

You don’t need to be a lover of the Daily Kos to know that Newsbusters is a steaming pile of vitriol and hyperbole.

424 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:23:42pm

re: #408 jcm

Reagan failed to follow up, follow up the Embassy or the Beirut Barracks which was a Tehran bit of action also. I class that failure to follow up as Reagan’s greatest failing.

He started off good….they were scared shitless when he first came in. Then, he ended up dealing with them in the Contra deal….I think that is Reagan’s biggest mistake.

425 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:23:58pm

re: #398 avanti

From the Saudi press Obama on Iran:

“After the first round of talks, King Abdullah and the US president broke off into a private session that lasted at least two hours.

The US president pointed out that leaders in the region should be more candid about their concerns.

“Stop saying one thing behind closed doors and saying something else publicly,” he said. “There are a lot of Arab countries more concerned about Iran developing a nuclear weapon than the ‘threat’ from Israel, but won’t admit it.”

We’ve been saying that for a while, but the official Obama administration’s position has been that Israel has to make peace with the Paliterrorists first, and then it will be easier to deal with Iran.
Glad to see he changed his mind.

426 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:23:59pm

re: #415 Occasional Reader

I have about 250 rounds on hand, between 12 gauge and .45ACP. That probably puts me toward the “light” side in terms of gun owners.

Wish I had been on hand with just ONE when this creep pulled up to carry out his little “jihad”.

A sheepdog always says, “damn I wish I was there.”

427 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:24:08pm

re: #340 JammieWearingFool

Piss off. I don’t have to answer to some nonentity like you. You want to troll my site and cherry-pick, have at it. I say what’s on my mind at any given time and I’m not concerned with what some pissant troll like you thinks about it.

keep up your good work. i admire you.

428 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:24:25pm
429 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:24:39pm

re: #398 avanti

From the Saudi press Obama on Iran:

“After the first round of talks, King Abdullah and the US president broke off into a private session that lasted at least two hours.

The US president pointed out that leaders in the region should be more candid about their concerns.

“Stop saying one thing behind closed doors and saying something else publicly,” he said. “There are a lot of Arab countries more concerned about Iran developing a nuclear weapon than the ‘threat’ from Israel, but won’t admit it.”

Link

430 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:24:55pm

re: #386 JacksonTn

turn … well, I bet it cost some jack to get to Yemen … wonder where he got his money from … wonder if he had a job … I bet they will find all that out and I hope it is reported and not swept under the rug …

Good point, oh and the MSM will bury it more than likely. We’ll see.

431 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:09pm

re: #419 OldLineTexan

Dr sis txt is teh hawt. OMG.

/

LOL!

432 poteen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:28pm

re: #403 NY Nana

Rezko fits the old corrupt Daley model, not the wild-eyed leftist model.
Obama couldn’t have run and whipped the Clintons without those people.
Thats why I wonder.

433 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:41pm

re: #408 jcm

Reagan failed to follow up, follow up the Embassy or the Beirut Barracks which was a Tehran bit of action also. I class that failure to follow up as Reagan’s greatest failing.

I think that is a just criticism. Any time you back up from an aggressor you will continue to get hurt. Someone should have got a very bloody nose over Beirut but it did not happen.

434 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:49pm

re: #422 gtrs

a leaked fbi memo was describing this guy and his “doings”; they used the term “arsenal” in the memo; i will give the fbi the benefit of the doubt here because the guy was already in their sights(i just wish they had gotten to him sooner; i don’t care about what vernacular they choose to use)

I’ve been to an arsenal. You can’t stuff one in your SUV or your apartment.

The FBI is apparently caught in “mediaspeak”.

Words have meanings. Meanings are important.

435 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:50pm

re: #429 unrealizedviewpoint

Link

[Link: blogs.jta.org…]

436 Tarkus289  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:50pm

Under Reagan, we shot down an Iranian passenger jet, and sank half of their navy, not enough in my opinion, but you can’t say we have done nothing.

437 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:25:56pm
438 Racer X  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:36pm

re: #372 Charles

It is depressing.

Pvt. Long is a hero who gave his life while he was actively working to make America better. He was “on duty”. He was doing what his country asked him to do. His murderer did not even know his name. He was a random victim - chosen only because he wore a United States military uniform.

I cannot lump both acts of violence together. They are different. IMHO.

439 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:45pm

re: #413 sbvft contributor

No. And their won’t be. Oour watchdog media never covers the suffering of those who survive terrorist attacks. The burns. The disfigurement. The pain. The psychological damage. They grudgingly report the initial attack (usually on page C48) and then forget it.

That’s indeed typical of the msm. A couple of posters upthread mentioned that he is recovering well. Thank God.

440 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:26:48pm

re: #426 jcm

A sheepdog always says, “damn I wish I was there.”

I don’t think I’m truly a “sheepdog”, but I aspire to be.

441 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:27:04pm

re: #421 nyc redneck

do you recall that pres. bush was proud of america and never went anywhere and groveled before other countries and apologized for his own. NEVER.

o, however makes it a practice to do just that. he is an apologist for america. and will sit complacent in an audience and listen attentively when commie thugs trash america. he is a disgrace.
period
my point is that w/ all his apologizing, why has it never occurred to him to criticize any country guilty of the most grievous transgressions.
demanding an apology from them is not on his list.
america has done so much to make the world a better place.
and he puts us last.
this is unconscionable

What’s really unsettling is that there is about half the U.S. voting population that believes this behavior to be admirable.

442 lobo91  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:27:08pm

re: #415 Occasional Reader

I have about 250 rounds on hand, between 12 gauge and .45ACP. That probably puts me toward the “light” side in terms of gun owners.

Wish I had been on hand with just ONE when this creep pulled up to carry out his little “jihad”.

I wish I could find 250 rounds of .40 S&W to buy at a decent price around here…

I used to pick up 100 round boxes at WalMart pretty cheap, but the last few times I’ve gone there, it looked like locusts had been through the ammo counter.

Gun shows are no better.

443 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:01pm

re: #397 Killgore Trout

Semi-OT: who is the first major blogger/pundit to embrace the conspiracy theory that the Tiller assassination was a government plot to confiscate the guns and end the Tea Parties?
I’m betting on Glenn Beck.
Any other contenders?

I’ll hedge a guess when you answer this: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

444 albusteve  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:02pm

re: #415 Occasional Reader

I have about 250 rounds on hand, between 12 gauge and .45ACP. That probably puts me toward the “light” side in terms of gun owners.

Wish I had been on hand with just ONE when this creep pulled up to carry out his little “jihad”.

re: #415 Occasional Reader

I have about 250 rounds on hand, between 12 gauge and .45ACP. That probably puts me toward the “light” side in terms of gun owners.

Wish I had been on hand with just ONE when this creep pulled up to carry out his little “jihad”.

I wish you were too….the Salt Lake shooter was stopped by a CandC off duty cop…it can happen

445 turn  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:31pm

re: #427 nyc redneck

keep up your good work. i admire you.

ditto, ha nonentity

446 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:40pm

re: #397 Killgore Trout

Take it somewhere else…wrong thread~!

447 pink freud  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:55pm

re: #427 nyc redneck

keep up your good work. i admire you.

Same here, JWF.

448 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:28:56pm

re: #424 Desert Dog

He started off good….they were scared shitless when he first came in. Then, he ended up dealing with them in the Contra deal….I think that is Reagan’s biggest mistake.

Reagan had bigger fish, The Soviet Union. The Contra deal was a little too slick deal to get money to the Contra’s which J F’n K and his cadre of useless idiots decided shouldn’t be funded, get the hostages (Spetnaz showed how to do that deal) out of Beirut by dealing with Mad Mullahs.

I blame J F’n K for cutting the legs out of Reagan’s support of the Contra’s which was also bleeding the Sovs for cash for Iran Contra. Reagan’s team wouldn’t have had to be so slick if J F’n K wasn’t a red coward.

449 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:33pm

re: #383 turn

Yes it’s all got me wondering. The basic question remains: lone mentor / facilitator, or a cell?

450 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:34pm

re: #318 MandyManners

I’m listening to Axelrod on NPR. Motherfucking moron.

I dunno, I think David Axelrod is pretty awesome. I like listening to his stuff.
/wait, what?

451 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:54pm

re: #442 lobo91

I wish I could find 250 rounds of .40 S&W to buy at a decent price around here…

I used to pick up 100 round boxes at WalMart pretty cheap, but the last few times I’ve gone there, it looked like locusts had been through the ammo counter.

Gun shows are no better.

As I’ve mentioned to Iron Fist when he makes the same complaint… drop by the DC area (not DC itself, mind you, no legal gun shops here), ammo is plentiful, if not cheap.

452 tradewind  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:29:54pm

re: #167 The Sanity Inspector
The FBI just broke up a plot in NY to blow up Synagogues, and on this site Muslims are blaming it on the FBI. The comments there are really something..

A slick FBI informant roped four Muslim converts into a horrific terror plot to blow up synagogues and military jets by handing them piles of cash and gifts and even bags of weed, relatives of the suspects said today.

“Brother whatever you need, I will get it for you,” said the man who the four petty thieves knew as Maqsood, according to Kathleen Baynes, whose long-time boyfriend, James Cromitie is alleged to be the ringleader of the plot.

She said Cromitie, 45, met Maqsood at the Masjid al-Ikhlas mosque about a year ago and promised to teach him the truth about Islam.

HOW TO STOP THE MUSLIM EXTREMISTS RECRUITING INMATES TO TERRORISM

The man soon was coming by their apartment with increasing frequency and was always flush with cash.

“He was very persistent and every time he came for James he took him away. They said they were going out to eat dinner,” she said. “Whenever we needed anything Maqsood would help — like financially –he gave us money to pay rent.

“He was just constantly around. It was like he was stalking him.”

Co-conspirator David Williams’s girlfriend Cassandra McKoy insists the men were duped into the plot with the lure of a cash payday and that religious hatred had nothing to do with it.

“They aren’t radicals they were just financially motivated. They aren’t terrorists. If Maqsood wasn’t in the picture they would’ve never come up with this idea,” she said. “This was not their idea. They make it sound like they sought him out and said we want to do this when he’s the one who approached them. He enticed them with money.

“Maqsood wasn’t even allowed inside the mosque, he waited in the parking lot for them and offered them $25,000 to join.”

Sources say Maqsood was really Shahed Hussain — a Pakistani native who runs hotels upstate and has worked for the FBI since 2003 after getting into trouble in a fraud case. He played an integral role in unraveling another terror-related case in Albany in 2004.

Baynes, 42, dated Cromitie — a career criminal who has been in jail more than 20 times — for six years. She said he converted to Islam during his last prison stint but wasn’t serious.

“James is a wannabe Muslim. He wasn’t real Muslin. He never prayed,” she said.

But during the course of the year, Maqsood kept trying to steer Cromitie down a path to jihad – giving him religious pamphlets, clothing and prayer rugs. In the end, it seemed that cash and gifts worked better.

She said Maqsood promised to get Cromitie jobs and once said he’d give him a black Mercedes Benz. On repeated occasions he gave Cromitie cameras, cash and even drugs.

“Maqsood gave him a lot of marijuana,” she said.

An FBI spokesman did not return a call for comment on the gift giving.

Williams’ mother, Elizabeth McWilliams, said her son fell under Maqsood’s sway in April with promises to help with medical bills for his sick brother.

“Maqsood said ‘Don’t worry brother, I am going to help with your brother’s hospital bills,’” she quoted him as saying. “This man did nothing but set these guys up.”



[Link: singularvoice.wordpress.com…]

453 Gus  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:30:10pm

Dead soldier’s family sought quiet in Arkansas
By JON GAMBRELL – 39 minutes ago

Questions remain about what route Muhammad, a Muslim convert, took before the shooting. Material seized from Muhammad’s truck and apartment — including guns, ammunition and Molotov cocktails — led federal agents to caution that copycat attacks could not be ruled out.

The Knoxville, Tenn., News Sentinel reported on its Web site Wednesday that Muhammad, then known as Carlos Bledsoe, was arrested in 2004 with an ounce of marijuana and a cache of high-powered firearms that he told police he planned to sell.

Court records show only a single charge was filed, possessing an illegal weapon, and it was dismissed four months after the arrest. John Gill, special counsel to Randy Nichols, the Knox County prosecutor, said Wednesday he wasn’t legally allowed to make any public statements about the case.

The newspaper reported court records weren’t clear on whether some of Bledsoe’s record might have been expunged.

An FBI-Homeland Security intelligence assessment document obtained by The Associated Press on Wednesday suggested Muhammad, of Little Rock, may have considered targeting other locations, including Jewish and Christian sites.

The FBI said Muhammad “conducted Internet searches related to different locations in several U.S. cities” including Atlanta, Little Rock, Louisville, Ky., Memphis, Tenn., New York and Philadelphia. The bureau notified authorities in those locations.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said investigators found Google Earth images of various places, including Times Square. In Atlanta, FBI Agent Stephen Emmett said Muhammad had information regarding a “Jewish entity within our jurisdiction.

454 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:30:42pm

re: #430 turn

Good point, oh and the MSM will bury it more than likely. We’ll see.

Yeah, they’re burying it deep

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

455 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:30:56pm

re: #442 lobo91

I wish I could find 250 rounds of .40 S&W to buy at a decent price around here…

I used to pick up 100 round boxes at WalMart pretty cheap, but the last few times I’ve gone there, it looked like locusts had been through the ammo counter.

Gun shows are no better.

I bought 1000 of S&W .40 at a gun show about year ago, and find 500 rounds 7.62x51 NATO online a few months ago. I haven’t seen much ammo on the counters since.

456 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:31:51pm
457 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:32:06pm

re: #425 Kosh’s Shadow needless to say i disagree completely with what you think the obama administration’s “official” policy is here; if you think rahm is not the biggest son of a bitch in the world when it comes to these issues, you have not been paying attention(personally, i think no one in the w crowd was close to rahm where the protection of israel is concerned)

458 NY Nana  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:32:15pm

re: #432 poteen

Rezko fits the old corrupt Daley model, not the wild-eyed leftist model.
Obama couldn’t have run and whipped the Clintons without those people.
Thats why I wonder.

Excellent point. BTW, was Hussein’s mentor, Saul Alinsky (and also Shrillary’s) from Chicago, like The One and Shrill are?

/Whoops, my bad. Shrill is a New Yawker, don’t you know.

459 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:32:22pm

re: #428 taxfreekiller

I will probably spend my July 4th tending my garden, consoling my cats and cleaning my house.Possibly even helping my neighbors in need. You’ll be attending a Ron Paul rally. Quién es más macho?

460 Tarkus289  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:32:54pm

re: #455 jcm

I have about 1,400 for the AR.

461 lobo91  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:33:14pm

re: #451 Occasional Reader

As I’ve mentioned to Iron Fist when he makes the same complaint… drop by the DC area (not DC itself, mind you, no legal gun shops here), ammo is plentiful, if not cheap.

Sort of a long drive from Colorado Springs, unfortunately.

Until I get my new Obamamobile issued to me that runs on unicorn farts, I think the gas cost would outweigh the savings.

462 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:33:27pm

re: #455 jcm

You aren’t going to either. Most gun owners are convinced(me too) that since the admin can’t shit can the 2nd Amend. They are gonna start taxing the hell out of ammo and relaoding supplies as soon as they can.

463 J.D.  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:33:53pm

re: #454 Hawaii69

Yeah, they’re burying it deep

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

The Little Rock police said he apparently changed his name around the time he converted to Islam, possibly as a teenager living in Tennessee.

But on May 23, he filed a petition with the Pulaski County clerk’s office to change his name again, this time to Abdulhakim Bledsoe.


Strange.

464 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:34:47pm

re: #448 jcm

Reagan had bigger fish, The Soviet Union. The Contra deal was a little too slick deal to get money to the Contra’s which J F’n K and his cadre of useless idiots decided shouldn’t be funded, get the hostages (Spetnaz showed how to do that deal) out of Beirut by dealing with Mad Mullahs.

I blame J F’n K for cutting the legs out of Reagan’s support of the Contra’s which was also bleeding the Sovs for cash for Iran Contra. Reagan’s team wouldn’t have had to be so slick if J F’n K wasn’t a red coward.

And fry he did. If we listened to likes of J F’n Kerry the Soviet Union would still be around.

465 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:34:59pm

re: #434 OldLineTexan
i don’t necessarily disagree with you(personally i wish the damn fbi were not in the habit of “leaks” but the US gov has leaked since BEFORE george washington was inaugurated); i was just pointing out what was being reported

466 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:21pm

re: #456 taxfreekiller

Someone like Carlos Bledsoe doesn’t go to Yemen on a whim. Wondering if he could afford the ticket…

467 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:35:59pm

re: #447 pink freud

Same here, JWF.

Thanks. Much appreciated.

468 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:36:33pm

The joy of being downdinged by someone who hasn’t contributed a single comment to the thread.

Classic.

469 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:36:45pm

re: #465 gtrs

i don’t necessarily disagree with you(personally i wish the damn fbi were not in the habit of “leaks” but the US gov has leaked since BEFORE george washington was inaugurated); i was just pointing out what was being reported

I appreciate the updates. I would also appreciate a bit more care from the gov. However, overall the FBI does a good job.

470 lobo91  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:36:50pm

re: #466 Thanos

Someone like Carlos Bledsoe doesn’t go to Yemen on a whim. Wondering if he could afford the ticket…

These days, nobody goes to Yemen on a whim.

The only Westerners who go there are aid workers or wannabe jihadis.

471 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:37:15pm

re: #468 Hawaii69

The joy of being downdinged by someone who hasn’t contributed a single comment to the thread.

Classic.

Where the badge of the stealth down dingers with pride!

472 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:37:22pm

re: #433 The Shadow Do

Agreed, but there should have been a bloody nose and broken arm in Tehran, 1979.

/Jimmy set the tone.

473 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:37:27pm

re: #459 Killgore Trout

How many kitties do you have KT? We have three, two mini-tigers and a fat gray one.

474 Tarkus289  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:38:08pm

re: #470 lobo91

Is your dog named “Boo”?

475 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:38:29pm

re: #427 nyc redneck

keep up your good work. i admire you.

And thank you, too!

With that, I depart. I guess Killgore won’t answer me. Meaning there hasn’t been an event the past 20 years the left wouldn’t exploit, I figure.

476 avanti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:39:02pm

re: #429 unrealizedviewpoint

Link

Click on the seeks closer ties story.

link.

477 Racer X  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:39:05pm

re: #473 Desert Dog

How many kitties do you have KT? We have three, two mini-tigers and a fat gray one.

Is he this fat?

478 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:11pm

re: #473 Desert Dog

I have two. Zoe the kitten manx and Matilda the elder psycho.

479 lobo91  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:36pm

re: #474 Tarkus289

Is your dog named “Boo”?

No…why do you ask?

480 gtrs  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:40:51pm

re: #469 OldLineTexan i agree

481 poteen  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:41:50pm

re: #458 NY Nana

Yes he was, but by 1968 he and the Clintons and Haydens and Ayers and so on were on the end of Daley (Chicago) police batons. His son is the mayor now. Was he behind Obama’s rise in Chicago?

482 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:41:51pm

re: #470 lobo91

Well there’s one other type, but we won’t talk about them ok?

483 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:41:59pm
484 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:42:28pm

re: #477 Racer X

Is he this fat?

My god! No, he looks very skinny compared to that one!

485 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:42:34pm

re: #468 Hawaii69
Happens quite a bit on some of the ID/Creation threads.

486 formercorpsman  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:42:56pm

Thank you Charles for giving this some air time.

The saddest irony in all of this, given this bastard’s motive, the father who was in Somalia, was there in an effort to protect innocent & starving muslims in Mogadishu almost 20 years ago.

Goodbye young man.

487 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:42:57pm

re: #466 Thanos

Someone like Carlos Bledsoe doesn’t go to Yemen on a whim. Wondering if he could afford the ticket…

According to the New York Times, his parents own airport shuttle and tour bus companies in Mississippi and Arkansas. He worked for them, at least more recently.

488 jcm  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:43:10pm

re: #472 IslandLibertarian

Agreed, but there should have been a bloody nose and broken arm in Tehran, 1979.

/Jimmy set the tone.

The got away with the Embassy and Beirut scot free.

Set the tone for the next 30 years.

489 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:43:14pm
490 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:43:17pm

re: #464 Desert Dog

And fry he did. If we listened to likes of J F’n Kerry the Soviet Union would still be around.

Not if you ask and lib.

“They would collapsed anyway…eventually.”

*spit*

491 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:43:28pm

re: #479 lobo91

No…why do you ask?


492 Tarkus289  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:44:01pm

re: #479 lobo91

There was a singer in the early ’70s, his name was Lobo, he had a song called ” Me and you and a dog named Boo”

493 Desert Dog  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:45:03pm

re: #478 Killgore Trout

I have two. Zoe the kitten manx and Matilda the elder psycho.

We had a manx named Cloe. She was a good kitty

494 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:45:50pm

re: #487 Hawaii69

According to the New York Times, his parents own airport shuttle and tour bus companies in Mississippi and Arkansas. He worked for them, at least more recently.

Interesting. Wonder where they get most of their drivers from?

495 lobo91  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:45:54pm

re: #492 Tarkus289

There was a singer in the early ’70s, his name was Lobo, he had a song called ” Me and you and a dog named Boo”

I thought of that song as I responded…

496 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:46:20pm

re: #494 Thanos

Interesting. Wonder where they get most of their drivers from?

No dogs, no booze?

/

497 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:47:03pm

re: #493 Desert Dog

Short tails are good people.

498 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:48:14pm

re: #496 OldLineTexan
Any religion that don’t like dogs and booze, I have no use for.

499 lobo91  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:49:31pm

re: #498 pingjockey

Any religion that don’t like dogs and booze, I have no use for.

Or bacon.

500 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:50:57pm

re: #499 lobo91
Oh yeah, can’t forget pork.

501 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:51:58pm
502 1SG(ret)  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:52:19pm

The thread has digressed to kitties and old lobo songs.

RIP young soldier: “Pvt. William Andrew Long”
and prayers for your family!

Thanks for the thread CHARLES

503 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:54:05pm
504 pingjockey  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 7:56:49pm

re: #502 1SG(ret)
It does have a tendency to happen later on.
My prayers have gone to the family and I hope my curses catch the SoB who did it on his way to the gas chamber!

505 Hutchip  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:11:11pm

Thank you for the thread Charles.
Rest in peace Trooper Long.
Prayers for your swift recovery Pvt. Ezeagwula.

506 Miss Molly  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:12:12pm

This breaks my heart that this young man was gunned down and the loss to his family must be unbearable.

507 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:13:53pm

re: #286 Walter L. Newton

In the least. That comparison by Sanity Inspector was sick, IMHO.

I of course intended no slur against Matthew Shepard, if that’s what you mean.

508 theheat  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 8:51:01pm

re: #401 Desert Dog

That’s not necessarily true. We’ve bought their oil and contributed aid money.

/

509 avspatti  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:11:26pm

re: #40 Iron Fist

Of course that is not true. Indonesia has over 200 m Muslims, I think. India has millions. I have no idea why O would make such an easily checkable (is that a word?) statement.

510 realwest  Wed, Jun 3, 2009 9:33:03pm

I just wanted to say thank you to Charles for putting up this thread. And as you so properly noted at the end of your #372 “The bottom line is that religious fanaticism is responsible for both of these crimes.”

I have no objection to your posting this, indeed if I did I wouldn’t thank you. But given the similarities you listed in your comment #372, why do you think that the MSM has given a great deal of coverage to the murder of Dr. Tillman (every bit as despicable an act as was the murder and shooting of those two soldiers) and yet barely mentioned the murder and shooting of those two American Soldiers, in Uniform, on American Soil? Could it be because President Obama has not made any statement about it?

511 SixDegrees  Thu, Jun 4, 2009 1:40:18am

re: #138 JammieWearingFool

Indeed they are, but the disparate coverage of the two events could not be more obvious.

You condemned them both, I condemned them both, most of the right and fair-minded people condemned them both.

Most of the left and the mainstream media has ignored what happened in Arkansas.

I haven’t had any problem finding stories about either incident. Neither seems to be ignored.

There’s more coverage of Tiller’s murder simply because it’s much more controversial, since it involves abortion. There are thousands of anti-abortionists cheering on the killing and calling for more just like it. There are, of course, many more who are appalled by it, but the number of those gleefully celebrating is huge and noteworthy.

Long’s murder, on the other hand, is much more widely viewed as a tragedy. There are certainly those cheering and jeering, just as in Tiller’s case, but they are in a distinct, tiny minority. Overall, the nation is in agreement over Long’s death. In the case of Tiller, not nearly so much.

Take a look at the disparity in number of threads and comments devoted to each right here. Long’s murder, every bit as horrible as Tiller’s, hasn’t attracted nearly the attention that Tiller’s has. It’s as simple as there not being anything much to discuss; everyone is in agreement over the details. In Tiller’s case, there has been, instead, a deluge of posters attempting to justify or even outright support his murder.

And so it goes pretty much everywhere.

512 sffilk  Thu, Jun 4, 2009 6:01:43am

Rest in peace.

513 Billy Hank  Thu, Jun 4, 2009 12:00:53pm

The Pentagon victims of 9/11 received Purple Hearts or Defense of Freedom Medals:
As one leaves that area and enters the Pentagon, there is an American Heroes Memorial that records, on stone, all 184 names. A book in front of these tablets provides a picture and short biography of each person, written by surviving family members. Another book allows visitors to record their condolences and sympathies for the families.

The American Heroes Memorial also includes separate tablets for the Purple Heart and Defense of Freedom medals, which were awarded posthumously to those who died on that fateful day.

The Purple Heart is awarded to American servicemen and women who are killed or injured in a conflict; the Defense of Freedom is the civilian counterpart to the Purple Heart.


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