'White Supremacists Seem to Hate an Awful Lot of People'

Well, DUH! Hate is easy.

"White Supremacists Seem to Hate an Awful Lot of People"

What's so special about the whites? Aren't all supremacists like that?

Wow. After watching the Army of God video the other day, and this, there's so many parallels to the psychology. Extremism, it's all around.

Fighting a two-front war is a bitch.

re: #4 Macker

Fighting a two-front war is a bitch.

Amen!

Well put.

re: #1 FurryOldGuyJeans

'White Supremacists Seem to Hate an Awful Lot of People'

Well, DUH! Hate is easy.

See? And Jews think they're so special.

/

Hate seems our default setting. I hate to admit it, I was convinced the opposite not long ago.

re: #5 pre-Boomer Marine brat

GMTA!

Not too hard to believe when this happens (Everett is local for me):

Published: Friday, June 5, 2009
FBI searches Everett [WA] house for deadly ricin
Everett home searched; no link to terrorism suspected
By Noah Haglund, Diana Hefley and Jackson Holtz
Herald Writers

EVERETT -- An FBI hazardous-materials team scoured an Everett home Thursday for traces of ricin, a deadly toxin.

A declaration filed in court Wednesday suggested that the poison may be in the home as part of a murder plot.

A woman discovered a suspicious substance in her husband's home office on Wednesday morning and called police, Everett police Sgt. Robert Goetz said. Officers who responded to the home in the 1200 block of 50th Street SW suspected that the substance was ricin, which is derived from castor beans, and contacted the FBI.

Ricin doesn't seem to me to be a common murder weapon; the protestations of not terror related come off as strained. VERY strained.

This does not bode well, especially in light of what looks to be a shift to the right in the EU elections.

The British police have quite a bit on their plate don't they? Islamo fascists, now white supremacists.

I know some people think I am overly sensitive but Geert W and stuff like this sometimes make me wonder if it's the north africans, pakistanians, indians and turks that will be marched into the next generation Buchenwalds if people don't start paying attention. (And no, this doesn't mean I sympathize with terrorists at all, thank you very much.)

re: #10 Bobblehead

This does not bode well, especially in light of what looks to be a shift to the right in the EU elections.

The British police have quite a bit on their plate don't they? Islamo fascists, now white supremacists.

That shift was a major headline at Drudge. The shift is not comforting.

re: #10 Bobblehead

The British police have quite a bit on their plate don't they? Islamo fascists, now white supremacists.

In and of themselves, that's scary enough. The kooky kicker is the multiculturalism driving British society that let a lot of the Islamofascism grow unfettered. I'm hoping there's no disproportionate response to the white supremacists driven by political correctness that seems to have a firm hold in that society.

re: #9 FurryOldGuyJeans

Interesting.

How could something with a name lie "ricin" be toxic? It sounds like it would go good with beans or cheese, like "ricin beans" or "cheese and ricin."

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

See? And Jews think they're so special.

/

They weren't. They were just an easier target (some rich and affluent families in Germany, the old blood myths of eastern Europe and the tsarist propaganda, the jewish intellectuals involved in early communism and so on. Plus enough people had a deeply ingrained antisemitism - thanks catholic church, especially in countries like Spain - that they didn't really care).

Wait, where was I going with this? Ah right. Any group that is sufficiently easy to target as "The Other" (religion, especially religion coupled with dress codes, is always a good factor) will be vulnerable to fear mongerers.

re: #15 Lawrence Schmerel

How could something with a name lie "ricin" be toxic? It sounds like it would go good with beans or cheese, like "ricin beans" or "cheese and ricin."

I think it sounds more like something healthy but disgusting. "Take a spoonful of ricin before bedtime and you will wake up a new man!"

Police have smashed a global terror plot by white supremacists aimed at poisoning ethnic minorities with the deadly poison ricin.

If it's a global plot, at some point they're going to have to notice that whites are the minority, globally speaking. But I guess critical thinking skills are not strong in this demographic.

re: #10 Bobblehead

This does not bode well, especially in light of what looks to be a shift to the right in the EU elections.

The British police have quite a bit on their plate don't they? Islamo fascists, now white supremacists.

I think they used Crisco on their slippery slope.

re: #10 Bobblehead

This does not bode well, especially in light of what looks to be a shift to the right in the EU elections.

The British police have quite a bit on their plate don't they? Islamo fascists, now white supremacists.

When a government leaves a vacuum any thing can happen.

re: #10 Bobblehead

This does not bode well, especially in light of what looks to be a shift to the right in the EU elections.

The British police have quite a bit on their plate don't they? Islamo fascists, now white supremacists.

To be fair, BNP has been around since the late sixties.

re: #9 FurryOldGuyJeans

But don't you see! It's a man-made disaster!

re: #22 Macker

But don't you see! It's a man-made disaster!

Yeah, it's Bush's fault, right?

/ is it sarcasm, or is it memorex?

Racists come in all shapes sizes and colors.
We will always have racism.
Perhaps the capture of these EVIL racists will awaken the silent inactive majority to action and moderate level headed leaders will be selected/elected to govern and deal with racism.

/Oh, there I go again, thinking we live in a logical world............

#20 AuntAcid

When a government leaves a vacuum any thing can happen.

Love your nic.

I agree with your statement. It's right out of physics - Newton's Third Law of Motion:

To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction; or, the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always equal, and directed to contrary parts.
- Newton's Third Law of Motion, translated from the Principia's Latin

Rightwing extremists on one side, islamo fascists on the other. This could get really ugly.

I really feel for the rose colored glasses fools who passed all those idiot laws over there. Now they have islamist maniacs on one side and neonazi maniacs on the other.

re: #24 IslandLibertarian

There is always hope. (Also change)

Not everybody can have "stars upon thars".

re: #25 ladycatnip

Actually the opposition of the right wingers aren't fundies necessarily, rather the various asian street gangs of varying non-niceness with limited to no real religious affiliation (even though they often are referred to as a "tamil gang" or "pakistani gang")

I guarentee you, had this been islamofascists, the head line would've not said one word about islamic terrorists.

re: #9 FurryOldGuyJeans

(re no link to terrorism)
For cryin' out loud, there's ricin a lot of houses in Everett, along with spaghetti and ...

/"intelligent as a post" mode off

It'll be interesting to learn more about the plot and who else was involved. There's always the possibility that some of the suspects are going to have connections the Eurofascist "Anti-Islamization" parties.

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

See? And Jews think they're so special.
/

"Oh Lord, why don't you choose somebody else now and then?"
/fiddler on the roof, I think

re: #32 Killgore Trout

The thought did cross my mind. The could be some serious fallout with some recently discussed groups and bloggers. Watching this closely.

Hey where's AemJeff?

re: #32 Killgore Trout
That might cause some 'splodin' heads at a few blogs we love to loathe. Heh!

re: #34 BigPapa

I'm also curious exactly how they were planing to poison ethnic minorities. Seems like kind of a goofy plot.

re: #35 Macker

Hey where's AemJeff?

He just posted on the last thread.

re: #37 Killgore Trout

I'm also curious exactly how they were planing to poison ethnic minorities. Seems like kind of a goofy plot.

These aren't the sharpest knives we are talking about here. Which we can be happy about. The scary part about smart terrorists are that they generally kill a lot of people and live to talk about it.

No, I am in a weird/funky mood today (and not in the "play that funky music white boy"-sense at all). I think I will shut up and go read a book or something instead.

re: #9 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not too hard to believe when this happens (Everett is local for me):

Published: Friday, June 5, 2009
FBI searches Everett [WA] house for deadly ricin
Everett home searched; no link to terrorism suspected
By Noah Haglund, Diana Hefley and Jackson Holtz
Herald Writers

Ricin doesn't seem to me to be a common murder weapon; the protestations of not terror related come off as strained. VERY strained.

Funny how local LE is quick to claim terrorism is not a factor. The recruiting office shooting in Arkansas comes to mind.

re: #39 enoughalready

The smarter people I know just don't have time for all this nonsense.

re: #32 Killgore Trout

It'll be interesting to learn more about the plot and who else was involved. There's always the possibility that some of the suspects are going to have connections the Eurofascist "Anti-Islamization" parties.

I hadn't even thought about that. You could be right.

re: #35 Macker

Hey where's AemJeff?

Still getting beat up in the last thread.

The genie is out of the bottle: if any jihadi wannabe with an internet connection can manufacture chemical weapons, also angry white dudes can.

I have been thinking for years that it was only a matter of time before someone decided to fight fire with fire and that there's things worth killing for.

It does not matter whether the belief is good or evil, or true or false: only the intensity of the perception.

Those times now are here.

re: #31 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(re no link to terrorism)
For cryin' out loud, there's ricin a lot of houses in Everett, along with spaghetti and ...

/"intelligent as a post" mode off

I still am baffled at the attempt to say using ricin was for a simple murder attempt.

‘This shows that the terrorist threat in the UK is real and present.’

As opposed to, say, Dr. Hook (Abu Hamza) and the like. No jihadi terrorists in Britian. I guess they are all in Scotland, trying to burn up airports.

re: #32 Killgore Trout

It'll be interesting to learn more about the plot and who else was involved. There's always the possibility that some of the suspects are going to have connections the Eurofascist "Anti-Islamization" parties.

I wouldn't be surprised that some of the usual suspects start saying it was justified to use ricin.

re: #46 FurryOldGuyJeans
It doesn't fly. Ricin is to damn hard to make just to kill one person. The FBI and LEOs are fibbing.

re: #45 FabioC.

Ummm. This is not something new.
The UK has had it's share of white supremacist violence towards immigrants for a LONG time.
Here's a reasonably recent example (1999) because I can't be bothered to dig up the other bombings and other shit has been going on there.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

So before you try to portray this as a reaction to islamic fundamentalism you really need to read up on what has been going on before (the same shit for a long time)

re: #11 enoughalready

I know some people think I am overly sensitive but Geert W and stuff like this sometimes make me wonder if it's the north africans, pakistanians, indians and turks that will be marched into the next generation Buchenwalds if people don't start paying attention. (And no, this doesn't mean I sympathize with terrorists at all, thank you very much.)

Terrorists and white supremacists are two sides of the same coin: all they do is hate, hate, and hate some more, and are willing to go to any extreme in the name of their hate. Their goals aren't really different, just their targets.

Crazy Pam links to another hate group....
OBAMA APPOINTEE KEVIN JENNINGS: FISTING AND “[F–k] ‘em” to the “Religious Right”

It's about some public school children being given seminars in safe "fisting" practices. The information comes from the homophobic and possibly racist Mass Resistance......

Waltham's Mass Resistance labeled as a hate group

Thirteen organizations in Massachusetts have been labeled "hate groups" in a report issued yesterday by the Southern Poverty Law Center, including organizations in Framingham and Waltham.

Concerned Citizens and Friends of Illegal Immigration Law Enforcement in Framingham, run by brothers Jim and Joe Rizoli, is new to the list. Mass Resistance in Waltham is on the list for a second time.

re: #49 pingjockey

It doesn't fly. Ricin is to damn hard to make just to kill one person. The FBI and LEOs are fibbing.

You know that, I know that, the FBI and LE know that, but I am sure there are some people that would fall for the bullshit being excreted.

re: #48 FurryOldGuyJeans

I wouldn't be surprised that some of the usual suspects start saying it was justified to use ricin.

Nah, I think they'll go for the angle that it was a government set up to discredit them.

re: #50 enoughalready

The ricin plot is the new part, that makes the difference between street thugs and something at a higher level.

re: #55 FabioC.

Ummm. This is not the first rather elaborate (and half idiotic) plot that these guys have hatched. It's not a new level. It's the same old level but with a slightly better recruitment environment.

re: #13 BigPapa

In and of themselves, that's scary enough. The kooky kicker is the multiculturalism driving British society that let a lot of the Islamofascism grow unfettered. I'm hoping there's no disproportionate response to the white supremacists driven by political correctness that seems to have a firm hold in that society.

I have a sneaky suspicion that the voting results are the beginnings of a backlash against the multiculturists. I'm not terribly surprised if this is indeed the case -- wearing an English flag pin in England was considered offensive to the sensibilities of Muslim prisoners in British jails not that long ago. The resentment index for the general public is likely through the roof at this point.

This incident could very well be connected with that. We may very well see a lot more of this in the near future.

re: #53 FurryOldGuyJeans
Oh our Pali apologist has gone off the rails. We shouldn't have dropped the bomb on Japan or fire bombed Dreseden.

Serious Question - Ricin ain't exactly available on Ebay.

Where ddoes it come from ? Can anybody with malicious intent manufacture it from commonly available materials ?

Any Lizards know ?

re: #58 pingjockey

Oh our Pali apologist has gone off the rails. We shouldn't have dropped the bomb on Japan or fire bombed Dreseden.

And the frakking idiot makes money off the evil war machine. Talk about lack of morals.

re: #59 Pass The Moonbaticide
Castor beans

Scary. I hope they get everyone connected with this plot.

re: #47 Iron Fist

As opposed to, say, Dr. Hook (Abu Hamza) and the like. No jihadi terrorists in Britian. I guess they are all in Scotland, trying to burn up airports.

Of course not. It'd be political incorrectness bordering on social treason to even hint that there might be jihadis in Britain. Airstrip One couldn't possibly harbor such people.

/

re: #59 Pass The Moonbaticide

I think with a little bit of knowledge you can make it yourself.

re: #61 pingjockey

Castor beans

And oddly enough, you can get castor beans on ebay......

re: #57 Steffan

I have a sneaky suspicion that the voting results are the beginnings of a backlash against the multiculturists. I'm not terribly surprised if this is indeed the case -- wearing an English flag pin in England was considered offensive to the sensibilities of Muslim prisoners in British jails not that long ago. The resentment index for the general public is likely through the roof at this point.

This incident could very well be connected with that. We may very well see a lot more of this in the near future.

I think you're right. Ordinary people feel their country has been stolen out from under them and given over to people who hate them. If BNP is the only party addressing that resentment, they're going to get votes.

re: #59 Pass The Moonbaticide

Serious Question - Ricin ain't exactly available on Ebay.

Where ddoes it come from ? Can anybody with malicious intent manufacture it from commonly available materials ?

Any Lizards know ?

It comes from castor beans.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Ricin is easily purified from castor-oil manufacturing waste. The aqueous phase left over from the oil extraction process is called waste mash. It contains about 5-10% ricin by weight. Separation requires only simple chromatographic techniques.

re: #61 pingjockey
Thank You.
I knew it had to come from somewhere.

Wikipedia tells me that the toxin is in the seed casings, and that 6-8 seeds have sufficient for a lethal dose for an average adult.

Scary, Eh ?

This is interesting.

Group Linked to Al Qaeda May Have Killed Minnesota Man Recruited in Somalia

A Minnesota man recruited to join an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist group overseas may have been assassinated in Somalia by the very terrorist group he went there to help.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has been investigating for several months at least 20 Somali-American men from the Minneapolis area who recently traveled to Somalia to train with the terrorist group al-Shabaab.

One of those men — 17-year-old Burhan Hassan — was killed in Mogadishu on Friday, his uncle, Osman Ahmed, told FOX News.

re: #59 Pass The Moonbaticide

Serious Question - Ricin ain't exactly available on Ebay.

Where ddoes it come from ? Can anybody with malicious intent manufacture it from commonly available materials ?

Any Lizards know ?

Wiki says:

Ricin is easily purified from castor-oil manufacturing waste. The aqueous phase left over from the oil extraction process is called waste mash. It contains about 5-10% ricin by weight. Separation requires only simple chromatographic techniques.

On non-polical subjects, Wiki is a good place to start.

re: #59 Pass The Moonbaticide

Serious Question - Ricin ain't exactly available on Ebay.

Where ddoes it come from ? Can anybody with malicious intent manufacture it from commonly available materials ?

Any Lizards know ?

beans...

re: #69 doppelganglander

What's going to be even more interesting is when those battle hardened jihadis return home. Combat experience isn't going to be helpful getting an office job.

re: #68 Pass The Moonbaticide

Thank You.
I knew it had to come from somewhere.

Wikipedia tells me that the toxin is in the seed casings, and that 6-8 seeds have sufficient for a lethal dose for an average adult.

Scary, Eh ?

100% organic, 100% poisonous. (That tiny popping sound? Prince Charles's head)

re: #68 Pass The Moonbaticide
Very. The stuff is very deadly. I don't know if it's water solulable or not. Or if you could make it an aerosol.

re: #59 Pass The Moonbaticide

Serious Question - Ricin ain't exactly available on Ebay.

Where ddoes it come from ? Can anybody with malicious intent manufacture it from commonly available materials ?

Any Lizards know ?

It's made from castor beans. It's fairly easy to make. The instructions are on the net if you know where to look. The problem is that it's toxic in such small amounts that you're likely to kill yourself with it before you get around to carrying out any diabolical plans with it.

I wonder if Davidson & son were intending to copy this delivery system:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

re: #69 doppelganglander

Oh. Al-Shahaab. Current record holders in "largest number of idiots with guns on a pickup truck":

[Link: 2.bp.blogspot.com...]

Serious Question - Ricin RACISM ain't exactly available on Ebay.

Where does it come from ? Can anybody with malicious intent manufacture it from commonly available materials ?

Any Lizards know ?

/work on that one..........

OT: Er, don’t you mean ‘Zionist lobby’?

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

The Independent is slipping:

"White House shows willingness to ignore US Jewish lobby … Barack Obama risked the wrath of the Jewish lobby … Mr Obama showed he is willing, perhaps more than any US president before him, to ignore the Jewish lobby…"

Biggest "duh" headline this week

re: #76 jaunte

I figure they were going to poison products (soda, bottled water, etc) and place them in shops in ethnic neighborhoods. It's about the only thing I can think of. Maybe direct attacks like the needle on the end of an umbrella but that has a high probability of getting caught.

re: #76 jaunte

I wonder if Davidson & son were intending to copy this delivery system:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

It's possible. Kurt Saxon, in The Poor Man's James Bond, mentioned a very simple anti-mugger tool: a nose-spray bottle filled with formaldehyde.

One caveat: Be careful which bottle you use if you get the sniffles.

Anyone watching the Red Sox game on TBS? Great catch by Jacoby Ellsbury. You'll see it on Sportscenter.

re: #81 Killgore Trout

I figure they were going to poison products (soda, bottled water, etc) and place them in shops in ethnic neighborhoods. It's about the only thing I can think of. Maybe direct attacks like the needle on the end of an umbrella but that has a high probability of getting caught.

I would guess water supply actually. (Given the poor state of the british plumbing this would probably be a piece of cake)

re: #72 Killgore Trout

What's going to be even more interesting is when those battle hardened jihadis return home. Combat experience isn't going to be helpful getting an office job.

According to the article, some of them have already returned. I'm sure they're merely using their new skills to lead Boy Scout troops, right?

re: #75 Conservative Moonbat

It's made from castor beans. It's fairly easy to make. The instructions are on the net if you know where to look. The problem is that it's toxic in such small amounts that you're likely to kill yourself with it before you get around to carrying out any diabolical plans with it.

Didn't that happen to some guy out in Las Vegas a few years ago?

When a government leaves a vacuum any thing can happen.

Regardless of how ridiculously inept our government is, idiots like these would have popped up eventually, no matter who was running the show or how well they were running it.

It has less to do with the government of the day than it does the propensity of some people to be dangerous idiots.

re: #86 Nevergiveup

Didn't that happen to some guy out in Las Vegas a few years ago?

Yep.

re: #81 Killgore Trout

I figure they were going to poison products (soda, bottled water, etc) and place them in shops in ethnic neighborhoods. It's about the only thing I can think of. Maybe direct attacks like the needle on the end of an umbrella but that has a high probability of getting caught.

It's sort of dopey weapon, (in that the user will either poison himself or be caught quickly) but in any case deadly to the few random victims that the wackos manage to kill.

these fascist groups have an opening because the establishment political groups aren't doing anything on the terrorism issues. and with the american gov't now doing the ostrich head in the sand trick this euro problem will come home to roost as well.

very scary i would say.

What ever came of the ricen guy found in Las Vegas?

re: #86 Nevergiveup

Didn't that happen to some guy out in Las Vegas a few years ago?

Ah. Darwinism in action.

re: #70 Steffan

On non-polical subjects, Wiki is a good place to start.

They stink on religious subjects as well, and science when there is a component of politics.

re: #81 Killgore Trout

I figure they were going to poison products (soda, bottled water, etc) and place them in shops in ethnic neighborhoods. It's about the only thing I can think of. Maybe direct attacks like the needle on the end of an umbrella but that has a high probability of getting caught.

The problem with that is that just about everything they could poison like that is sealed, and nobody in their right mind will buy something that isn't sealed.

re: #76 jaunte

I wonder if Davidson & son were intending to copy this delivery system:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Wow. I never even heard about that story. Weeing and shitting on people's food has to be the most pathetic form of Jihad I've heard of yet. Even Allah himself would have facepalmed at that.

re: #91 brookly red

What ever came of the ricen guy found in Las Vegas?

He recovered and pleaded guilty.

re: #95 Jimmah

It's happened here in Oregon, too.
[Link: www.prevention.com...]

re: #46 FurryOldGuyJeans

I still am baffled at the attempt to say using ricin was for a simple murder attempt.

Your fundamental problem is, you never attended a College of Journalism

/you should rightly feel inferior

/ < --- better add another one

re: #90 yochanan

these fascist groups have an opening because the establishment political groups aren't doing anything on the terrorism issues. and with the american gov't now doing the ostrich head in the sand trick this euro problem will come home to roost as well.

very scary i would say.

NO! This has nothing to do with terrorism, they may be using it in their propaganda but these groups ALWAYS turn up during economic downturns. Blaming it on terrorism is missing the whole point. These are organisations that (just like NSDAP in it's time) gain support during periods of high unemployment (or where people perceive that there is a risk of high unemployment).

re: #94 Steffan

The problem with that is that just about everything they could poison like that is sealed, and nobody in their right mind will buy something that isn't sealed.

hypodermic needles make really tiny holes... best to squeez the milk carton before you buy.

re: #95 Jimmah

Wow. I never even heard about that story. Weeing and shitting on people's food has to be the most pathetic form of Jihad I've heard of yet. Even Allah himself would have facepalmed at that.

And another one in Dallas:
[Link: www.dallasobserver.com...]

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has urged U.S. President Barack Obama to impose a solution on the festering Arab-Israeli conflict if necessary, a Saudi newspaper said on Sunday.

Saudi Arabia and other Arab states want Obama to get tough with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over his refusal to endorse Palestinian statehood and for defying U.S. calls to halt the expansion of settlements.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Gee i wonder why they think all of a sudden the American Government will do that?

re: #81 Killgore Trout

I figure they were going to poison products (soda, bottled water, etc) and place them in shops in ethnic neighborhoods. It's about the only thing I can think of. Maybe direct attacks like the needle on the end of an umbrella but that has a high probability of getting caught.

The thing about ricin is you want to handle it as little as possible. A little bit of accidental skin contact and you're as dead as your intended target. Putting it all in some kind of communal dish or drink dispenser like in a cafeteria would be the safest was to do it.

re: #100 brookly red

Someone using 30 gauge insulin syringes would leave virtually no trace.

re: #104 enoughalready

Someone using 30 gauge insulin syringes would leave virtually no trace.

squeez before buying... (and not just food :)

Following the european elections right now. Weirdness.

re: #86 Nevergiveup

Didn't that happen to some guy out in Las Vegas a few years ago?

I don't think it was even that long ago, but yeah. It was in a hotel so there was a lot of suspense over what he intended to do with the stuff had he known what he was doing.

re: #101 jaunte

And another one in Dallas:
[Link: www.dallasobserver.com...]

Dude must have had major potty-training issues. The author of that article, Jim Schutze, also wrote an excellent true crime book called Bully, if you like that sort of thing.

re: #102 Nevergiveup

Arab leaders must be amazed at their good luck to have Obama as POTUS.

The discussion of successful methods of dispersing ricin...........
Yeah, that's gunna' address the issue.

/RACISM is the worst poison.......but can it be dispersed?

re: #98 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Your fundamental problem is, you never attended a College of Journalism

/you should rightly feel inferior

/ < --- better add another one

I did attend the University of Washington, double major Electrical Engineering and Archaeology. At the time, late 70's, that was looked upon by even my adviser as "too weird".

Dinner time....BBL. (trying to forget previous conversation now)

re: #102 Nevergiveup

I actually have a bet running that the KSA will have a different ruler by the end of Obama's presidency. (And it's not because I like the guy, just because it's ABOUT DAMN TIME.)

re: #112 Jimmah

Dinner time....BBL. (trying to forget previous conversation now)

pssst, pass on the castor bean & wild mushroom raviolis...

D-Day Vet Who 'Misrepresented Service' to Be Honored by French

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I guess the word "Honor" doesn't translate into French?

Related news:

BNP may win seat in European parliament as polls show other EU voters backing the far right
By Mail Foreign Service
Last updated at 7:56 PM on 07th June 2009

Europe was leaning to the right tonight as exit polls showed voters were backing conservative parties amid a global economic crisis and anti-Islamic sentiments.

The British National Party could win its first seat in the EU parliament if the results elsewhere follow in the UK.

It comes after the party won its first seat on a county council at Thursday's local elections...

re: #72 Killgore Trout

What's going to be even more interesting is when those battle hardened jihadis return home. Combat experience isn't going to be helpful getting an office job.

Office jobs? Last week I attended a CLE at Saint Paul College, they're all there getting vocational training.

/it may as well have been downtown Mogadishu

re: #95 Jimmah

Daifallah, who had fantasies about biological weapons to cause public alarm, was also found guilty of having an offensive weapon, namely a catapult with marbles.

re: #111 FurryOldGuyJeans

I did attend the University of Washington, double major Electrical Engineering and Archaeology. At the time, late 70's, that was looked upon by even my adviser as "too weird".

No kidding, the UW? There's an off chance I was one of your TAs.

A US "taster" tested the food being dished up to President Barack Obama at a dinner in a French restaurant, a waiter said on Sunday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Anyone ever heard of something like this before?

re: #120 Nevergiveup

Never heard of that for a US Pres. Not saying it has never happened, but it sure doesn't ring any bells.

re: #120 Nevergiveup

A US "taster" tested the food being dished up to President Barack Obama at a dinner in a French restaurant, a waiter said on Sunday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Anyone ever heard of something like this before?

It was common practice among Roman Emperors.

re: #120 Nevergiveup

I am pretty certain the Secret Service guys are doing their job.

re: #122 doppelganglander

It was common practice among Roman Emperors.

Well when in Rome?

CARACAS (Reuters) - President Hugo Chavez has already nationalized most of Venezuela's energy industry and is preparing to bring chemicals under his wing, but he may still target firms running gas and oil services.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Where does Chavez think he lives, America?

re: #120 Nevergiveup

A US "taster" tested the food being dished up to President Barack Obama at a dinner in a French restaurant, a waiter said on Sunday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Anyone ever heard of something like this before?

Who drew the short straw & got that job? Wouldn't it make more sense for the chef, who had care, custody & control of the meal to do the tasting?

re: #25 ladycatnip

#20 AuntAcid

Rightwing extremists on one side, islamo fascists on the other. This could get really ugly.

yah, and vacuous thinking makes for interesting times...

re: #120 Nevergiveup

A US "taster" tested the food being dished up to President Barack Obama at a dinner in a French restaurant, a waiter said on Sunday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Anyone ever heard of something like this before?

In the Bubble, No Food Is Left Untouched
By TIM WEINER
Published: December 3, 2006

The goal of the Secret Service is “to provide a complete 24-hour-a-day, 365-day-a-year protective envelope” around the president. (This all-enveloping phenomenon, known as “the bubble,” can ward off reality as well as danger.)

They recognize no zone of presidential privacy: “they accompany him to restrooms and other private places.” In public, they seek to “achieve seamless proximity”: they must stay so close as to be able to place their “hands on the hips of a president to move him in a particular direction.”

Deception and disguise are crucial elements: “Agents have dressed as major league umpires, soldiers, engineers, academics and priests.” In 2000, the Secret Service demanded the deployment of a decoy Air Force One on a trip to Pakistan.

Of course, “Secret Service personnel test the food the president eats.” For the last 43 years, every president who has died has done so peaceably, no small achievement in a dangerous world.

re: #120 Nevergiveup

A US "taster" tested the food being dished up to President Barack Obama at a dinner in a French restaurant, a waiter said on Sunday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Anyone ever heard of something like this before?

I always understood it to be SOP for presidents. They poop in their own personal traveling toilets so their feces can't be used by foreign intelligence too.

re: #125 Nevergiveup

CARACAS (Reuters) - President Hugo Chavez has already nationalized most of Venezuela's energy industry and is preparing to bring chemicals under his wing, but he may still target firms running gas and oil services.

Where does Chavez think he lives, America?

/bet he has a food taster too...

re: #128 Gus 802

OK, and how long do they wait for the SS Agent to drop dead before they serve the President?

re: #1 FurryOldGuyJeans

'White Supremacists Seem to Hate an Awful Lot of People'

Well, DUH! Hate is easy.

Way back when, in the 1970s, I remember the Mad Magazine definition of a "super patriot": it's someone who loves his country, while hating 99% of the people living in it.

Seriously. Do you have a problem with the Secret Service testing the food?

re: #123 enoughalready

I'm sure they are too. The article almost reads as if the guy was tasting it to make sure it was up to O's standards. "The chefs were annoyed", whatever. The whole thing strikes me as kind of funny (not discounting the seriousness of security for the Pres.). I mean, if the food taster was there to detect poison like in the historical role, then that is just a real strange detail to pull. Sure you get some free chow and maybe some wine, but you're definitely feeling like low-man on the totem pole.

re: #134 Lincolntf

Makes me think of the red-jersey away team guys in Star Trek.

re: #131 Nevergiveup

OK, and how long do they wait for the SS Agent to drop dead before they serve the President?

I don't know. Seems like an awfully dangerous task if the goal is to find out if the food is poisoned. That would really require a straight ahead test and not the use of a "human subject."

re: #131 Nevergiveup

OK, and how long do they wait for the SS Agent to drop dead before they serve the President?

I'd be willing to be that's classified.

re: #134 Lincolntf

I'm sure they are too. The article almost reads as if the guy was tasting it to make sure it was up to O's standards. "The chefs were annoyed", whatever. The whole thing strikes me as kind of funny (not discounting the seriousness of security for the Pres.). I mean, if the food taster was there to detect poison like in the historical role, then that is just a real strange detail to pull. Sure you get some free chow and maybe some wine, but you're definitely feeling like low-man on the totem pole.

The chefs were french. Of course they were annoyed.

re: #120 Nevergiveup

A US "taster" tested the food being dished up to President Barack Obama at a dinner in a French restaurant, a waiter said on Sunday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Anyone ever heard of something like this before?

During this era of cut backs it's probably a new way of making sure some one gets fed on a regular basis.

re: #133 enoughalready

Seriously. Do you have a problem with the Secret Service testing the food?

What's your problem? All I asked was if anyone ever heard of that before?

re: #128 Gus 802

Good find. I wonder if this is limited to overseas trips or if it's an every day thing.

re: #128 Gus 802

Interestingly enough, this says it hasn't been confirmed that they do -
[Link: www.google.com...]

On one hand it makes a lot of sense, on the other - well - I hope they get some SERIOUS hazard duty pay if this is normal. I really want to know for sure that it is or isn't. Let's ask Biden.

re: #138 enoughalready

The chefs were french. Of course they were annoyed.

Default setting?

re: #119 jvic

No kidding, the UW? There's an off chance I was one of your TAs.

Doubtful, I dropped out real quick.

20,000 years ago there were no white people.
Non whites are the grandparents of these fools.
Fools. Fools. Fools.

re: #141 Lincolntf

Good find. I wonder if this is limited to overseas trips or if it's an every day thing.

Maybe it's limited to foreign visits? I did see him picking up some burgers and fries last week at some burger joint in DC. Might be based on a potential threat.

re: #142 ArmyWife

Interestingly enough, this says it hasn't been confirmed that they do -
[Link: www.google.com...]

On one hand it makes a lot of sense, on the other - well - I hope they get some SERIOUS hazard duty pay if this is normal. I really want to know for sure that it is or isn't. Let's ask Biden.

I am not sure it makes sense. If it an unannounced drop in ( which I kinda think this was ) the SS Agents could watch the entire preparation of the food to insure it is healthy. Tasting it is kinda low tech and not particularly accurate. That is why they story sounds funny to me.

re: #145 justdanny

20,000 years ago there were no white people.
Non whites are the grandparents of these fools.
Fools. Fools. Fools.

and in 200 years there will be no white people

re: #142 ArmyWife

Interestingly enough, this says it hasn't been confirmed that they do -
[Link: www.google.com...]

On one hand it makes a lot of sense, on the other - well - I hope they get some SERIOUS hazard duty pay if this is normal. I really want to know for sure that it is or isn't. Let's ask Biden.

We can make Joe Biden the official food taster!

//

re: #140 Nevergiveup

Hey, I'm curious by nature. It seemed like a really weird thing to ask since it doesn't take that much imagination to realize that this is exactly what is being done.

Isn't there a testing method that would be more accurate than human guinea pig? What if 1 bite doesn't kill you, but 1/2 the plate does? As I think through this, it seems poison testing isn't the real reason's for this. Perhaps it is for appropriate salt levels.

re: #128 Gus 802

Lets fucking hope so! Any President of this country should live deep in a bubble. Hussien is a mouthy idiot, but he's still the president.

Now Pelosi? She deserves no food testor. She's nobody.

re: #149 Gus 802

We can make Joe Biden the official food taster!

//

I think the idea is that the president is actually supposed to get some food himself.

re: #150 enoughalready

Hey, I'm curious by nature. It seemed like a really weird thing to ask since it doesn't take that much imagination to realize that this is exactly what is being done.

Sorry but it still makes very little sense to me.

re: #149 Gus 802

We can make Joe Biden the official food taster!

//

But if he's affected how would we know? Would he start acting normal?

re: #146 Gus 802

Maybe it's limited to foreign visits? I did see him picking up some burgers and fries last week at some burger joint in DC. Might be based on a potential threat.

According to the google article linked above it's all meals eaten outside the whitehouse. It seems like a favorite burger joint in the states would be a prime target for tampering. Since it's a known part of his routine it would be easier to get someone hired on there to do the tampering.

re: #147 Nevergiveup

I was thinking on this (as you can see from my last post). I was just reading this article on drudge and rushed over here to see if it was being discussed - its usually faster than google searches with the knowledge we have here! It really doesn't make sense now that I've begun to ponder on it instead of reacting.

re: #154 Nevergiveup

That's exactly my point. What's with the question? It's reasonable procedure.

re: #156 Conservative Moonbat

According to the google article linked above it's all meals eaten outside the whitehouse. It seems like a favorite burger joint in the states would be a prime target for tampering. Since it's a known part of his routine it would be easier to get someone hired on there to do the tampering.

Yeah. There would have to be some kind of SOP for handling outside food sources.

re: #156 Conservative Moonbat

As ArmyWife said at 151 this seems a little too low tech for this day and age. I thought the job of food taster actually went out with the dark ages.

re: #148 AuntAcid

and in 200 years there will be no white people

I'm all for the reintegration of the 'races'. We spread out and became different and that difference divides us. Maybe a reunification will unite us. I doubt it will as long as little cultural voodoo crap exists. Voodoo is killing us.

re: #152 justdanny

Lets fucking hope so! Any President of this country should live deep in a bubble. Hussien is a mouthy idiot, but he's still the president.

Now Pelosi? She deserves no food testor. She's nobody.

/with her botulism content what could she fear?

re: #157 ArmyWife

Ok. Go to a restaurant kitchen. Take the time to figure out what is in every single chefs personal mis. And where did the veggies come from. And the stock. And the meat. And... of course someone will taste it.

re: #157 ArmyWife

I was thinking on this (as you can see from my last post). I was just reading this article on drudge and rushed over here to see if it was being discussed - its usually faster than google searches with the knowledge we have here! It really doesn't make sense now that I've begun to ponder on it instead of reacting.

2 Scenarios:
a) President is known to be eating somewhere: Secret Service sends advanced teams to stake place out far in advance overseeing perpetration and importation of food. No real need to taste.
b) Unknown drop in- No one knows President will be coming- Advanced Secret Service team shows up hours before and supervises- No real need for taster?

Also we have already been told on the History Channel- if we are to believe it--that Air Force One personal food shop at regular stores for the Plane.

re: #162 brookly red

/with her botulism content what could she fear?

Which reminds me. Will the brain become paralyzed if you inject enough botox?

/because in that case I would be enlightened (this is a joke, the brain is not a muscle, you could not paralyze it per se)

Is it just me, or could there be some coincidence between a sudden upsurge in right-wing white extremism being reported and something else? Does the state-run media stand to gain somehow?

re: #160 BlueCanuck

As ArmyWife said at 151 this seems a little too low tech for this day and age. I thought the job of food taster actually went out with the dark ages.

Here's some info on food tasters from previous POTUS's.

taster..

re: #163 enoughalready

I'm not suggesting a testing for a poison isn't in order, it just seems like a human guinea pig is a bit archaic. I would hope that we've advanced a bit in toxicology since the dark ages. I would also think OSHA might take issue with this. ;)

Occasionally I'll have fun with the psychological inbreds at my work. Discussing 'race' one day I mentioned that not long ago (big picture time) there were no white people, and in the not very distant future there wont be any white people again. Seeming very confused he didnt respond.

Then to kick him a little I said that when all the white people are gone, we'll all be Jewish. You should have seen the look on his snout.

re: #165 enoughalready

Which reminds me. Will the brain become paralyzed if you inject enough botox?

/because in that case I would be enlightened (this is a joke, the brain is not a muscle, you could not paralyze it per se)

/brain paralysis is not fatal, 56+ million voters prove that.

re: #168 ArmyWife

I'm not suggesting a testing for a poison isn't in order, it just seems like a human guinea pig is a bit archaic. I would hope that we've advanced a bit in toxicology since the dark ages. I would also think OSHA might take issue with this. ;)

OSHA? Now that's funny.

re: #167 avanti

Here's some info on food tasters from previous POTUS's.

taster..

That sheds more light.

re: #144 FurryOldGuyJeans

re: #119 jvic

No kidding, the UW? There's an off chance I was one of your TAs.

Doubtful, I dropped out real quick.

Wow, you neglected to accuse the UW of driving you out for your patriotism and religiousness.

Speaking as a former TA, I regret to say that you seem ill-suited for a lucrative new career in the thriving hate industry.

re: #164 Nevergiveup

2 Scenarios:
a) President is known to be eating somewhere: Secret Service sends advanced teams to stake place out far in advance overseeing perpetration and importation of food. No real need to taste.
b) Unknown drop in- No one knows President will be coming- Advanced Secret Service team shows up hours before and supervises- No real need for taster?

Also we have already been told on the History Channel- if we are to believe it--that Air Force One personal food shop at regular stores for the Plane.

According to the link avanti just posted, they do all that and have tasters, and more.

re: #168 ArmyWife

I'm not suggesting a testing for a poison isn't in order, it just seems like a human guinea pig is a bit archaic. I would hope that we've advanced a bit in toxicology since the dark ages. I would also think OSHA might take issue with this. ;)

Hahahaha.

Well, I agree and disagree. The tastebuds and sense of smell of humans (especially of talented humans) are a LOT more sensitive and cover a pretty wide spectra. Of course there are tasteless/odorless poisons but I think they are doing both. This is just conjecture but it's what I would do if I was the Secret Service.

re: #59 Pass The Moonbaticide

Serious Question - Ricin ain't exactly available on Ebay.

Where ddoes it come from ? Can anybody with malicious intent manufacture it from commonly available materials ?

Any Lizards know ?

It's made from castor beans. They are easily available - the plants are common annual ornamentals that are grown all over the place. You used to be able to buy the seeds at garden centers, but in recent years they have become scarce. Commercial nurseries still sell them, but they keep track of who purchases them and raise an eyebrow if large orders come in. The recent caution, of course, is due to increased awareness of ricin's use as a poison.

In some parts of the world, the mash left over from extracting castor oil is available by the ton. Ricin can be extracted from that, as well, but it isn't processed in the US, at least not much.

Extraction is not exactly rocket science - if you know what you're doing, a kitchen and an accurate scale and thermometer will get you there. But it isn't exactly as easy as following a recipe; there's lots of potential for error that will leave you with a worthless product. And if I recall correctly, one of the agents required, while legally obtainable, is another item that would raise eyebrows if purchased in the quantities required.

Compared to other poisons, ricin is not particularly potent. You need to use a lot of it to kill someone, relative to other poisons. But it's also easier to lay hands on the raw materials and processing components needed to produce it than it is other poisons, making it popular with the home-brew crowd.

You'd have to test for many poisons individually. By the time you finished testing for many of the known poisons, the food will have gone bad. A food taster is surprisingly more economical- and in some ways, more effective.

re: #174 Conservative Moonbat

Yeah I read his link. interesting.

re: #148 AuntAcid

and in 200 years there will be no white people

Ummm. That sounds decidedly.... well. Let's just say it doesn't sound very nice and leave it at that.

re: #177 Altermite

You'd have to test for many poisons individually. By the time you finished testing for many of the known poisons, the food will have gone bad. A food taster is surprisingly more economical- and in some ways, more effective.

/diamond dust or powered glass would not be detected by testing or tasting, but I don't write crime novels.

Fortunately for the rest of humanity, ricin is a really stupid way to kill people for all the reasons already mentioned on this thread. These guys are dumb. Let's hope they stay that way.

Al Qaeda was much smarter in its planning and execution of the 9/11 terror attacks. Let's hope they get dumber.

re: #167 avanti

Thanks for that piece of factoid. I would believe that they would control where the head of state food comes from. That makes perfect sense in so many ways.

re: #176 SixDegrees

Compared to other poisons, ricin is not particularly potent. You need to use a lot of it to kill someone, relative to other poisons. But it's also easier to lay hands on the raw materials and processing components needed to produce it than it is other poisons, making it popular with the home-brew crowd.

Everything I've read has indicated the opposite re: potency. It's real easy to off yourself with it if you don't handle it carefully.

re: #93 FurryOldGuyJeans

They stink on religious subjects as well, and science when there is a component of politics.

I've noticed.

There was an article on there about Hasan al-Basri (d. 711 CE), taken from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica, which was nothing but a pile of mediaeval Islamic hagiography. The real Hasan was a rebel against the Umayyads and a believer in human free will.

You'd think (and I think) that would make Hasan one of the 'good guys'; but the Salafis prefer their saints to be Salafis like them.

When I rewrote the article according to some work that's been done since 1911, one of Wiki's local Salafis upended that. Second time around, another "wikipedian" got involved, who had never posted on anything else before then or since then. Seems Wiki's got more socks than Michael Jordan...

re: #180 brookly red

/diamond dust or powered glass would not be detected by testing or tasting, but I don't write crime novels.

Nor are they poisons, though once thought to be.

re: #98 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Your fundamental problem is, you never attended a College of Journalism

/you should rightly feel inferior

/ < --- better add another one

LOL

So after the food taster has had a bite of the Presidential pork chop, does everyone stare at him for 5 minutes before they eat? That must make for an awkward silence....
"Ummm, Michelle, does he look a little green around the gills to you?"

re: #185 avanti

Nor are they poisons, though once thought to be.

no but they can cause internal bleeding. :(

re: #187 Lincolntf

So after the food taster has had a bite of the Presidential pork chop, does everyone stare at him for 5 minutes before they eat? That must make for an awkward silence....
"Ummm, Michelle, does he look a little green around the gills to you?"

Urh, having been born or brought up Muslim in his early "formative" years, does Obama eat Pork?

re: #185 avanti

Nor are they poisons, though once thought to be.

Looks like the food taster thing in France has taken off in the blogs. Thought you might be interested to see some of the comments in light of the information we brought forward here:

This is from FR.

And contrast that with this old story from 2003.

re: #189 Nevergiveup

Urh, having been born or brought up Muslim in his early "formative" years, does Obama eat Pork?

he sure spends it...

re: #191 brookly red

he sure spends it...

Your hot today!

re: #79 Jimmah

OT: Er, don’t you mean ‘Zionist lobby’?

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

I note that an anagram of The Independent is "inept then ended".

re: #183 Conservative Moonbat

Everything I've read has indicated the opposite re: potency. It's real easy to off yourself with it if you don't handle it carefully.

I was speaking relatively; compared to many other poisons, ricin requires a fairly high dose to be lethal.

Skin absorption, especially during refinement, is a real possibility, though.

re: #192 Nevergiveup

Your hot today!

another day but older, another day bud wiser...

re: #190 Gus 802

Looks like the food taster thing in France has taken off in the blogs. Thought you might be interested to see some of the comments in light of the information we brought forward here:

This is from FR.

And contrast that with this old story from 2003.

That's funny, it's "foodtastergate" over there. If you don't mind peeing on their parade, perhaps a heads up to a real blog like this would be appropriate.

re: #129 Conservative Moonbat

I always understood it to be SOP for presidents. They poop in their own personal traveling toilets so their feces can't be used by foreign intelligence too.

What use would foreign intelligence make of the presidential bowel movement?

re: #196 avanti

That's funny, it's "foodtastergate" over there. If you don't mind peeing on their parade, perhaps a heads up to a real blog like this would be appropriate.

That was the exact word I was thinking of: Foodtastergate. Sure does help to do the research first but I guess they would rather react first and ask questions later. Google is really easy to use. I have a Logitech MX Revolution mouse which also allows a one click search with Google as default. Just highlight a keyword or phrase and click the button.

re: #189 Nevergiveup

Urh, having been born or brought up Muslim in his early "formative" years, does Obama eat Pork?

Of course he does.

Ham eater.

re: #197 John Neverbend

What use would foreign intelligence make of the presidential bowel movement?

Well I am hopeing he was joking, but you could analyze someone's excrement and get an idea about their health and/or health problems?

re: #199 avanti

Of course he does.

Ham eater.

Outrageous that he eats ham! Oh wait I'm Jewish and I eat ham, urh never mind.

Hey guys, ya'll elect me as Prestident and I'll fix this crap. I know how and I can do it. Nuff said!

re: #198 Gus 802

That was the exact word I was thinking of: Foodtastergate. Sure does help to do the research first but I guess they would rather react first and ask questions later. Google is really easy to use. I have a Logitech MX Revolution mouse which also allows a one click search with Google as default. Just highlight a keyword or phrase and click the button.

It's so much more fun not to fact check a story in that fits your mindset. Why do that when you can enjoy a nice long thread bashing a POTUS you don't like for something that is SOP for the Secret Service.

Besides I hear the job pays good and I need a job.

How Not to Weld Your Fuel Tank.

re: #201 Nevergiveup

Outrageous that he eats ham! Oh wait I'm Jewish and I eat ham, urh never mind.

Oy vay, that's treyf!

re: #204 capt26thga

Besides I hear the job pays good and I need a job.

But it's the food taster's job that keeps opening up?

re: #206 John Neverbend

Oy vay, that's treyf!

Shs, then I better not mention the Lobster?

re: #203 avanti

It's so much more fun not to fact check a story in that fits your mindset. Why do that when you can enjoy a nice long thread bashing a POTUS you don't like for something that is SOP for the Secret Service.

I've often wondered why some people will do that. Why not verify an assumption before making an accusation. This is especially questionable considering the medium we are using here, the internet. It took me less then a minute to find an article indicating that "food tasting" is common practice for the past 40 years. Criticizing is fine as long as it's based on facts. Always verify information and then try and verify the source or find another source to use as a second opinion or report.

I wonder who the food taster was? Was he a Secret Service guy pressed into a new job? Was it a professional food taster? Was he French, English, German, African, etc-etc. God, how do you apply for this job? I would like to apply!

re: #210 mystry

I wonder who the food taster was? Was he a Secret Service guy pressed into a new job? Was it a professional food taster? Was he French, English, German, African, etc-etc. God, how do you apply for this job? I would like to apply!

They specifically do NOT offer health insurance with that job ya know?

re: #148 AuntAcid

and in 200 years there will be no white people

I will ask again: what exactly do you mean by this?

re: #211 Nevergiveup

They specifically do NOT offer health insurance with that job ya know?

Just a free supply of Tums, Pepto-Bismol and Kaopectate.

//

#211 Who care about insurance? I have Medicare and Medicaid. Who needs anything more?

re: #209 Gus 802

Because it so much more fun to post this:

"You can’t make this up! Can not wait til Rush gets on this Monday! It will be hilarious. Did anyone notice the HNIC has shaved off the “muslim moustache” nobama had for the SandN tour? At Normandy it was gone. "

I don't care for Rush, but I assume he'll fact check.

re: #212 enoughalready

I can answer that. As the world gets smaller the conditions that lead to the creation of the white race are reversing. White populatiins are declining as brown populations are booming. Interracial mating is way up. Brown eyes and skin are dominent. A whole host of contributing factors. Whitey is on the way outey and I dont feel at all threatened by that fact.

re: #109 opnion

Arab leaders must be amazed at their good luck to have Obama as POTUS.

No, I would say the telephone bank set up in GAZA to call the US for donations and support to Obama had nothing to do with luck.
Or, the fact that Obama's online donation site had been tampered to allow multiple donations and over-limit donations. Reported on LGF, by the way, for those who remember.

re: #215 avanti

Because it so much more fun to post this:

"You can’t make this up! Can not wait til Rush gets on this Monday! It will be hilarious. Did anyone notice the HNIC has shaved off the “muslim moustache” nobama had for the SandN tour? At Normandy it was gone. "

I don't care for Rush, but I assume he'll fact check.

Yikes. Now there's an off the wall comment including a veiled racial slur. It's amazing to what lengths people will go.

Rush will probably check. He usually doesn't talk about little things like this anyway. At least if seems that way to me but I'm not really a listener.

re: #120 Nevergiveup

A US "taster" tested the food being dished up to President Barack Obama at a dinner in a French restaurant, a waiter said on Sunday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Anyone ever heard of something like this before?

Hammurabi and Nebuchadnezer come to mind. Ooh, Solomon, too.

re: #216 justdanny

I can answer that. As the world gets smaller the conditions that lead to the creation of the white race are reversing. White populatiins are declining as brown populations are booming. Interracial mating is way up. Brown eyes and skin are dominent. A whole host of contributing factors. Whitey is on the way outey and I dont feel at all threatened by that fact.

Well you don't feel threatened. Some people do. Many of them tend to signal their opinion by comments like that. Hence I wanted to know what AuntAcid thought on the subject. Your comments are welcome, however the recessiveness of blue eyes and low melatonin content (and blond hair) have actually been questioned a lot lately. But that's beside the point. Whitey is certainly on the way outey. My question was really a "so what"? I have this very real problem with comments like that.

I wish I could say that this story surprises me, but of course it doesn't. Every nation has its subset of ultra-nationalists and racists, but in times of economic and cultural upheaval, they become more popular. This past year, with the economic maelstrom swirling about, and the election of BHO as President, we may have a perfect storm of motivators which has mainstreamed the extreme. I just purchased a new book, but haven't read too much yet, called Blood and Politics by Leonard Zeskind. It's about the mainstreaming of white nationalism over the last forty or so years. The cast of characters for anyone who has followed their activities, is familiar. Sadly, even though the book just came out, it doesn't deal with anything after 2004. Obviously this past year has seen these types become much more vocal and more, as in the nut in Pittsburgh and these British butt-heads. We'll definitely be seeing more of this in the months and years to come. Oh, and btw, apparently Jews aren't immune to this behavior either. Oy gevalt!

re: #200 Nevergiveup

Well I am hopeing he was joking, but you could analyze someone's excrement and get an idea about their health and/or health problems?

Nope, not joking. At the G8 summits everyone brings their own toilets and flies the waste back home with them to be disposed of securely.

re: #221 Irenicum

updings galore to thee.

re: #222 Conservative Moonbat

Nope, not joking. At the G8 summits everyone brings their own toilets and flies the waste back home with them to be disposed of securely.

And why do they do that? For the reason I mentioned?

re: #222 Conservative Moonbat

Nope, not joking. At the G8 summits everyone brings their own toilets and flies the waste back home with them to be disposed of securely.

And for VERY good reasons. (Why is that damn doctor asking for a sample every now and then? You would be surprised what you can figure out.)

re: #205 SixDegrees

And I'll bet the tank is still full! Although that guy is definitely running on empty!

re: #220 enoughalready

Ok, Sorry, peace.

re: #222 Conservative Moonbat

Well that settles that. The food taster is definitely not the low man on the totem pole. It's gotta be the guy who escorts the Executive feces back to the States.

re: #227 justdanny

I am cranky today. But you get the love.

re: #224 Nevergiveup

Exactly that. I'm looking for supporting cites but this is the best I've found so far:

[Link: www.rense.com...]

I know I heard it on some TV documentary though.

re: #221 Irenicum

Just watched the video at the link. My oh my what a bunch of nasty kids. The kicker was the two young ladies who didn't know who Benjamin Netanyahu was.

(btw, I am so staying out of That Other Thread. It's entertaining but it's one of those "make one slightly ambiguous comment and get downdinged to nothing")

It should be of wider concern that the only people speaking to the plight of caucasoid minorities ("caucasians" live in the Caucasus) in "Diversity-Enforcement" areas (a form of mob rule by ethnic minorities) are cranks like these, who are eager to recruit. Similar situation to the Eurofascists, who have imbibed a continuous diet of antisemitism for centuries. What are oppressed white kids supposed to do, aside from drown their misery in religion, adopt wiggerism, or join the counterfeit renaissance?

re: #197 John Neverbend

What use would foreign intelligence make of the presidential bowel movement?

The CIA arranged for a collection of a Foreign Government leader in order to determine medicines and certain health factors, to see if he was going to last a long time in office, using narcotics, etc.

re: #230 Conservative Moonbat

Exactly that. I'm looking for supporting cites but this is the best I've found so far:

[Link: www.rense.com...]

I know I heard it on some TV documentary though.

OK but really more than I need to know.

re: #223 enoughalready

Thank you so much!

re: #219 NelsFree

If Nobama is God, why bother "testing" the food. The French must be very offended!

re: #56 enoughalready

And that still doesn not really address the main point of my comment, that the dissemination of information on chemical weapons makes anyone with a belief strong enough to kill for it able - at least in theory - to commit mass-murder.

Some of the main disseminators have been muslims extremists themselves.

re: #237 Maui Girl

If Nobama is God, why bother "testing" the food. The French must be very offended!

It's SOP regardless of the POTUS's popularity back at least to Reagan. It only takes one person that does not like the guy.

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

See? And Jews think they're so special.

/

Fat Bastard Vegetarian -

Not exactly special - accessible is more like it. That is all.

-S-

re: #228 Lincolntf

Yeah, but it's the easiest job in the Secret Service. After all, if you believe the news media, Obama's shit doesn't stink.

The entire premise of the article is BS. "Police have smashed a global terror plot by white supremacists aimed at............". Then it turns out the two are a father in son someplace in the UK. There is no followup to say why this is "global" and that is because, once again, these are two individual nut cases.

There is no evidence of an "al queada" on the right with a mastermind leader. There are a few nut cases but the real threat from the outside is still radical islamists and from the inside it is the marxists.

re: #118 Conservative Moonbat

Daifallah, who had fantasies about biological weapons to cause public alarm, was also found guilty of having an offensive weapon, namely a catapult with marbles.

I'm pretty sure that in UK English, "catapult" refers to what we in the U.S. would call a wrist-mounted slingshot, aka "Wrist Rocket" -- in other words, the guy wasn't in trouble with the police because he'd used Legos and popsicle sticks to build a scale model of an ancient Roman siege weapon.