Rev. Wright: ‘Them Jews Aren’t Going to Let Him Talk to Me’

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More ugly antisemitic ranting today from Barack Obama’s former preacher: Rev. Wright says he doesn’t regret severed relationship with president.

“Regret for what… that the media went back five, seven, 10 years and spent $4,000 buying 20 years worth of sermons to hear what I’ve been preaching for 20 years? Regret for preaching like I’ve been preaching for 50 years? Absolutely none,” Wright said.

Wright said that when he went to the polls, he did not hold any grudge against Obama.

“Of course I voted for him; he’s my son. I’m proud of him,” Wright said. “I’ve got five biological kids. They all make mistakes and bad choices. I haven’t stopped loving any of them. He made mistakes. He made bad choices. I’ve got kids who listen to their friends. He listened to those around him. I did not disown him.”

Asked if he had spoken to the President, Wright said: “Them Jews aren’t going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office. …

”They will not let him to talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is. … I said from the beginning: He’s a politician; I’m a pastor. He’s got to do what politicians do.“

Wright also said Obama should have sent a U.S. delegation to the World Conference on Racism held recently in Geneva, Switzerland, but that the president did not do so for fear of offending Jews and Israel.

”Ethic cleansing is going on in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing of the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don’t want Barack talking like that because that’s anti-Israel,” Wright said.

(Hat tip: davesax.)

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588 comments
1 vxbush  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:16:17am
”Ethic cleansing is going on in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing of the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don’t want Barack talking like that because that’s anti-Israel,” Wright said.

Typo, or was this in the original story?

2 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:16:32am

Can I call HIM a racist?

I mean, everything is so nuanced these days.

3 vxbush  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:16:43am

Ah; it’s in the original story that way.

4 J.D.  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:17:12am

Bleeeeeeech!
What a hatemonger*.

*No news there

5 brookly red  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:17:13am

The more exposure he get the better IMO.

6 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:17:14am

re: #3 vxbush

Ah; it’s in the original story that way.

Spell czech is knot your friend!

/

7 S'latch  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:17:34am

Them is some powerful Jews!

8 dhg4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:17:37am

I can’t believe that he didn’t express similar hatred in the past and it’s still remarkable to me that Barack Obama didn’t see fit to distance himself from Rev. Wright until it became politically expedient to do so.

9 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:17:41am

Scumball

10 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:18:00am

I’m not worried at all the the TOTUS sat in his congregation for years and never absorbed any of this stuff. Nope, not at all.

/head back in sand

11 dhg4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:19:17am

re: #1 vxbush

Typo, or was this in the original story?

Actually what the original story said was “Ethics cleansing is going on in Chicago ….”

:-)

12 NonNativeTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:19:52am

Unfortunately, in his speeches, Obama hasn’t said much
to put Israel at ease.

13 vxbush  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:19:55am

re: #11 dhg4

Actually what the original story said was “Ethics cleansing is going on in Chicago ….”

:-)

ZING!

14 Dianna  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:20:10am

Who’s being ethnically cleansed in Gaza? Last I looked, the people getting kicked out were Jewish?

15 badger1970  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:20:14am

I thought that quote was just someone doing a parody. OMG. I sure hope that 20yrs in that congregation didn’t affect bo’s attitude to white people./

16 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:20:48am
17 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:21:11am

re: #11 dhg4

Actually what the original story said was “Ethics cleansing is going on in Chicago ….”

:-)

Hey, when Patti Blagojevich goes on a REALITY SHOW to eat a tarantula and make veiled comments about how Rod got shafted somehow, you just KNOW the world has come apart at the seams.

So ethics might break out in Chicago. Stranger things have happened there …

/I don’t think Rev. Wright will be of any help, though

18 cathypop  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:21:11am

Would somebody please tell wright to get back under the bus and stay there?

19 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:21:49am
Ethic cleansing is going on in Gaza.

That’s right, Rev. Wright. No Jews are allowed in Gaza.

20 brookly red  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:22:46am

re: #19 Who Watches the Watchmen?

That’s right, Rev. Wright. No Jews are allowed in Gaza.

/I don’t think the IDF got that memo…

21 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:22:46am

And how much has the Gaza population grown in the last 30+ years?

22 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:23:17am

Rev. wright: the Gift that Keeps on Giving!


Regret for preaching like I’ve been preaching for 50 years? Absolutely none,” Wright said.

So can we all agree now the Obama did indeed know all along about Rev. Wright’s bigotry?

23 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:23:42am

I wish Rev. Wright would preach at my church so I could walk out.

I could get a table at Luby’s before the Methodists eat all the fish with that kind of head start.

/

24 S'latch  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:23:42am

Unethical? Try Ethic Cleansing!

25 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:23:45am

Ethnic cleansing in Gaza?
Does the good Reverend know something about Gaza that the rest of us do not?

27 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:23:53am

re: #14 Dianna

Who’s being ethnically cleansed in Gaza? Last I looked, the people getting kicked out were Jewish?

That was something like 7 years ago. No Jews left now.
Now it is Palis getting kicked out - Hamas getting rid of Fatah. Although that usually involves killing them.

28 jemima  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:24:15am

To think this is the spiritual mentor of the President of the United States.
What have we come to?

29 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:24:55am

Them Jews?

There’s only one really that stands as the gatekeeper between Obama and everyone else. That’s Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s Chief of Staff.

Emanuel is known as an enforcer, and if Obama isn’t taking Wright’s phone calls, it’s because Emanuel is the one saying no.

In any event, Wright can go piss up a rope for his ugly anti-Semitic comments, which are just more of the same from his sorry and miserable excuse for a preacher.

30 FrogMarch  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:25:09am

Obama spent 20 years at this hate church. Any other politician with such a history would have been laughed off the political stage. and rightly so.

31 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:25:14am

re: #27 Kosh’s Shadow

That was something like 7 years ago. No Jews left now.
Now it is Palis getting kicked out - Hamas getting rid of Fatah. Although that usually involves killing them.

That’s not killing … it’s flying lessons. But da Joooos have made them so poor that they cannot afford airplanes!

/

32 jcm  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:25:40am

The Marxist Roots of Black Liberation Theology

The notion of “blackness” is not merely a reference to skin color, but rather is a symbol of oppression that can be applied to all persons of color who have a history of oppression (except whites, of course). So in this sense, as Wright notes, “Jesus was a poor black man” because he lived in oppression at the hands of “rich white people.” The overall emphasis of Black Liberation Theology is the black struggle for liberation from various forms of “white racism” and oppression.

James Cone, the chief architect of Black Liberation Theology in his book A Black Theology of Liberation (1970), develops black theology as a system. In this new formulation, Christian theology is a theology of liberation — “a rational study of the being of God in the world in light of the existential situation of an oppressed community, relating the forces of liberation to the essence of the gospel, which is Jesus Christ,” writes Cone. Black consciousness and the black experience of oppression orient black liberation theology — i.e., one of victimization from white oppression.

33 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:25:48am

If Fox really wants to help the Republican party they should cancel Glenn Beck and put Rev. Wright on TV every night.

34 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:26:02am

re: #26 MandyManners

Coupled with Kilgore’s photograph of Carter accepting that Islamic text from , this early morning’s warm and fuzzies are gone.

Is he or is he not linked to Hizballah?

35 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:26:10am

Oh, and the only ethnic cleansing in all of Gaza was in 2005, when Israel purposefully and unilaterally removed all Israelis from Gaza.

36 FrogMarch  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:26:16am

Da juice are in charge of mah brain!

37 Randall Gross  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:26:34am

Wright is racism writ large, just like David Duke or Thomas Robb, why wouldn’t everyone call him a racist?

38 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:26:37am

re: #34 MandyManners

Is he or is he not linked to Hizballah?

Who? Carter? Jury is still out on that one.

39 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:26:38am

re: #33 Killgore Trout

If Fox really wants to help the Republican party they should cancel Glenn Beck and put Rev. Wright on TV every night.

Put ‘em on together. We’ll call it “Wright and Wrong”.

/we”ll be RICH!

40 3 Sigma E  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:27:13am
“They will not let him to talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is.”


Um…. I guess a black guy can get away with that term in that context…. LOL

41 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:27:31am

re: #29 lawhawk

In any event, Wright can go piss up a rope for his ugly anti-Semitic comments, which are just more of the same from his sorry and miserable excuse for a preacher.

Racist!
/

42 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:27:47am

The only ethnic cleansing that happened recently in Gaza was the uprooting of the Jewish communities 4 years ago.

They’re still homeless, BTW.

43 3 Sigma E  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:27:55am

re: #35 lawhawk

Exactly.

44 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:27:55am

re: #11 dhg4

Actually what the original story said was “Ethics cleansing is going on in Chicago ….”

:-)

pretty sure they cleared the last bit of ethics from Chicago years ago…..

45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:28:02am

Rahm, you magnificent bastard!

46 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:28:06am

This moron’s name is a delicious irony. Jeremiah Wright hasn’t been “wright” about anything as far as I can tell. Jeremiah Wrong is closer.

47 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:28:09am

re: #30 FrogMarch

Obama spent 20 years at this hate church. Any other politician with such a history would have been laughed off the political stage. and rightly so.


Didn’t you get the memo, 0bama himself is a god. At least that is what Newsweek said. Still find it unbelievable how so many people bought the load of BS he peddled on that. In 20 years he never heard any of Wrights preachings of hate.

48 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:28:20am

Have a great day all!

49 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:29:00am

re: #34 MandyManners

I don’t think so. I get the impression he’s actually opposed to Hezbollah.

50 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:29:30am

re: #34 MandyManners

Is he or is he not linked to Hizballah?

yes he is.


He supported the ideals of Iran’s Islamic Revolution and advocated the corresponding Islamic movement in Lebanon. In his sermons, he called for armed resistance to the Israeli occupations of Lebanon, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip, along with opposition to the existence of Israel. He holds relatively liberal views on the status of women.
51 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:29:33am

re: #49 Killgore Trout

By ‘he’ I mean the Mullah, not Carter.

52 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:29:36am

Gotta’ git.

53 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:29:41am

re: #47 soxfan4life

Didn’t you get the memo, 0bama himself is a god. At least that is what Newsweek said. Still find it unbelievable how so many people bought the load of BS he peddled on that. In 20 years he never heard any of Wrights preachings of hate.

The faux-religious imagery was all through his campaign.

The only shock to me was that someone was finally honest enough to admit it.

/Rev. Wright is despicable, but apparently honest (at least now).

54 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:29:50am

re: #22 Kenneth

Rev. wright: the Gift that Keeps on Giving!

So can we all agree now the Obama did indeed know all along about Rev. Wright’s bigotry?

maybe he listened to him as he does the American public?

how anyone can have ears that big and still not hear is beyond me. %-)

55 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:30:25am

re: #50 Kenneth

Thanks for posting that.

56 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:30:28am

re: #47 soxfan4life

Didn’t you get the memo, 0bama himself is a god. At least that is what Newsweek said. Still find it unbelievable how so many people bought the load of BS he peddled on that. In 20 years he never heard any of Wrights preachings of hate.

maybe he didn’t consider them hateful?

57 jcm  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:30:41am

re: #34 MandyManners

Is he or is he not linked to Hizballah?

He has a web site….

Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Hussein Fadl-Allāh محمد حسين فضل الله‎

A prominent Lebanese Twelver Shi’a Muslim cleric who some claim is associated with the Shia Islamist group Hezbollah. According to Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism (MIPT), some analysts regard him as Hezbollah’s spiritual leader[1], although the group denies this, as it reserves this title for Ayatollah Khomeini and Fadlallah also denies that he is affiliated with Hezbollah.
58 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:30:50am

re: #39 OldLineTexan

lol

59 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:31:43am

re: #30 FrogMarch

Obama spent 20 years at this hate church. Any other politician with such a history would have been laughed off the political stage. and wrightly so.

FTFY!

60 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:31:46am

re: #56 redc1c4

maybe he didn’t consider them hateful?

He didn’t until the media spotlight landed on him.

61 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:32:10am

Jeremiah is a Wright-wing extremist.

/report next week

62 zelnaga  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:32:19am

I wonder if he’s saying “them Jews” because he believes it’s some sort of insult or if he seriously believes that it’s people of the Jewish faith who are calling the shots.

If someone says “you’ve been gypped”, I wouldn’t take that to mean that they seriously believe that they were taken advantage of by a Gypsy so much as I’d assume that that’s just some phrase they grew up around and that they’re using it without really thinking about it.

63 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:32:43am

re: #49 Killgore Trout

I don’t think so. I get the impression he’s actually opposed to Hezbollah.

Not according to Wikipedia. He denies being Hezbollah’s spiritual leader, but his views are very much in line with those of Hezbollah.

64 opilio  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:33:34am

Well, at least the MSM is finally exposing the guy, big time. I found 8 articles on line about this, including the likes of:

The Bloomington-Normal Pantagraph.
EURweb.com
The Times of Northwest Indiana
The Ames (Iowa) Tribune
KCRG-TV - Cedar Rapids.

/

65 neoconundrum  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:34:09am

Thanks Charles,

Let’s see if this comment is aired on one of the main networks.

Meanwhile, everything Obama disowned and ran away from is slowly resurfacing with a vengeance.

66 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:34:23am

re: #57 jcm

He’s a lovely piece of work….
Hudood, Punishment


Q: What is your opinion concerning killing the Murtad (apostate) in this age? Is it possible to invalid the death sentence on him, taking into consideration the circumstances of our present age? 6/22/2006 10:29:37 AM

A: The Muslim Ruling Authority judges on this issue and many other issues of the Islamic law of sanctions according to the legal considerations and the surrounding circumstances, while the individuals have nothing to do with this judgment.


It’s ok to kill apostates as long as you get permission from a cleric first.

67 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:34:29am

Once a radical, hateful commie, always a radical, hateful commie.

68 harrylook  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:34:34am

Obama’s approach to Israel now placed in clearer context.

69 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:34:39am

re: #39 OldLineTexan

Put ‘em on together. We’ll call it “Wright and Wrong”.

/we”ll be RICH!

“…I’d be rich.”

70 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:34:40am

re: #63 Kenneth

In contrast to BHO who is the leader of the USA despite being opposed to every idea that has made us great.

71 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:34:43am

re: #62 zelnaga

I wonder if he’s saying “them Jews” because he believes it’s some sort of insult or if he seriously believes that it’s people of the Jewish faith who are calling the shots.

If someone says “you’ve been gypped”, I wouldn’t take that to mean that they seriously believe that they were taken advantage of by a Gypsy so much as I’d assume that that’s just some phrase they grew up around and that they’re using it without really thinking about it.


Rev. Wright is a racist, hate whitey, hate Jews scumbag. Fuck him.

72 whiterasta  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:35:02am

We’re not just a little bitter, are we?

73 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:35:08am

re: #60 soxfan4life

He didn’t until the media spotlight landed on him.

i meant “even now”.

74 opnion  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:35:08am

If Obama did not catch his break & give the One America speech in Boston, which led to this Presidency, does anyone really believe that he would not still be pals with Wright?

75 capitalist piglet  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:35:41am

re: #62 zelnaga

I wonder if he’s saying “them Jews” because he believes it’s some sort of insult or if he seriously believes that it’s people of the Jewish faith who are calling the shots.

If someone says “you’ve been gypped”, I wouldn’t take that to mean that they seriously believe that they were taken advantage of by a Gypsy so much as I’d assume that that’s just some phrase they grew up around and that they’re using it without really thinking about it.

Yeah, it’s pretty hard to imagine that hateful, ranting, raving racist friend-of-Farrakhan has a problem with Jews.

/////

76 dhg4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:35:49am

re: #27 Kosh’s Shadow

That was something like 7 years ago. No Jews left now.
Now it is Palis getting kicked out - Hamas getting rid of Fatah. Although that usually involves killing them.

actually 4 years ago. And it was two years ago when Hamas celebrated its electoral victory by tossing Fatah men off top floors of buildings and shooting them in their kneecaps. (This was about the same time as the final episode of the Sopranos.)

77 zombie  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:35:52am
Them Jews aren’t going to let him talk to me.

Them Jews them Jews them sly Jews

Them Jews them Jews them sly Jews

Them Jews them Jews them sly Jews

Now hear the word of the Lord:

The sly Jew’s connected to the rich Jew
The rich Jew’s connected to the smart Jew
The smart Jew’s connected to the Pres’dent
Now hear the word of the Lord…

78 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:36:15am

re: #29 lawhawk

Them Jews?

There’s only one really that stands as the gatekeeper between Obama and everyone else. That’s Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s Chief of Staff.

Emanuel is known as an enforcer, and if Obama isn’t taking Wright’s phone calls, it’s because Emanuel is the one saying no.

In any event, Wright can go piss up a rope for his ugly anti-Semitic comments, which are just more of the same from his sorry and miserable excuse for a preacher.

Obama probably doesn’t want to talk to Wright, either; he used Wright’s church for political purposes.
He probably spent those 20 years daydreaming of becoming President of the World.
I wonder if Obama really does worship any entity other than himself.

79 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:36:32am

re: #74 opnion

If Obama did not catch his break & give the One America speech in Boston, which led to this Presidency, does anyone really believe that he would not still be pals with Wright?


What makes you think he is not still pals with Wright, after all he could no more disown Jeremiah Wright than he could his own white grandmother.

80 ladycatnip  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:36:42am

This was the man closest to Obama, the man who married Obama and Michelle (iirc), the one who baptized his kids, the church he attended for 20+ years. And we’re thinking none of this racial hatred rubbed off on Obama?

That’s crazy.

81 jcm  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:36:56am

re: #66 Killgore Trout

He’s a lovely piece of work….
Hudood, Punishment


It’s ok to kill apostates as long as you get permission from a cleric first.

Well as long as cleric say okay, what’s the problem?
////////////////

82 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:37:17am

re: #74 opnion

If Obama did not catch his break & give the One America speech in Boston, which led to this Presidency, does anyone really believe that he would not still be pals with Wright?

i’m sure he still is pals with Wright.

83 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:37:21am

re: #81 jcm

Well as long as cleric say okay, what’s the problem?
////////////////

If you do it without permission, they’ll give you such a slap!

/

84 StillAMarine  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:37:23am

Are we certain this news item doesn’t come from Onion?
Oh, yeah. This is “Reverend” Wright we are talking about. The one who doesn’t even know that Hamas has long since ethnically “cleansed” all the Jews out of Gaza. The man is as stupid as he is obnoxious.

85 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:37:40am

Bitter, and clinging to religion. I’ll bet he owns guns too.

86 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:37:53am

“Oh, we don’t control the media. We do control dental hygeine.”

- My (Jewish) girl in NYC.

87 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:38:00am

re: #66 Killgore Trout

wife beating

Q: I have some questions concerning the relation between the husband and his wife: What is the penalty that Islam imposes on the man who treats his wife harshly? Did the Prophet (p.) mention any penalty on the Day of Judgment against the man who treats his wife harshly? 9/15/2006 1:29:24 PM

A: It is impermissible for the man to scorn or hit his wife and such an act is considered a sin. Therefore, he should turn to God in repentance and ask for His forgiveness.

You can beat your wife but you have to pray afterward.

88 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:38:05am

re: #62 zelnaga

I wonder if he’s saying “them Jews” because he believes it’s some sort of insult or if he seriously believes that it’s people of the Jewish faith who are calling the shots.


Are you serious?

89 JustABill  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:38:20am

re: #29 lawhawk

Them Jews?

There’s only one really that stands as the gatekeeper between Obama and everyone else. That’s Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s Chief of Staff.

Emanuel is known as an enforcer, and if Obama isn’t taking Wright’s phone calls, it’s because Emanuel is the one saying no.

In any event, Wright can go piss up a rope for his ugly anti-Semitic comments, which are just more of the same from his sorry and miserable excuse for a preacher.

Yes, but is he talking on the blackberry with the Rev Wrong?

90 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:38:27am

re: #84 StillAMarine

Are we certain this news item doesn’t come from Onion?
Oh, yeah. This is “Reverend” Wright we are talking about. The one who doesn’t even know that Hamas has long since ethnically “cleansed” all the Jews out of Gaza. The man is as stupid as he is obnoxious.

hence his appeal to Ear Leader….. bird brains of a feather, etc.

91 J.D.  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:38:36am
WHEN Europeans wish upon a star, they get an American president with a huge Third World chip on his shoulder.

Those “sophisticated” Europeans dismissed “cowboy” Bush as a rube beneath their contempt. If the continent’s opinion-makers could’ve changed their voter registrations, they would’ve flown to Chicago to vote for Barack Obama last fall.

They got what they wanted. But it isn’t what they expected.

President Obama may be the least Europe-friendly occupant of the White House since James Monroe (the guy who put up a “Keep Out!” sign on our hemisphere). Bam clearly doesn’t like Europeans.

A big chill has hit the trans-Atlantic atmosphere. Beyond the perfunctory grip-and-grins at Saturday’s D-Day commemoration, there was no bonhomie between European leaders and our celebrity prez.

Nor can the somber setting — or even the raw sea breeze — be blamed for the dour mood in Normandy. The president and first lady maintained their own self-absorbed bubble, enchanted with being the Obamas. President George W. Bush may have been inarticulate, but the Obamas were ungracious.

The new ice age was also evident during Bam’s stop in Germany. Walking or standing side by side, he and German Chancellor Angela Merkel looked like a couple going through a brutal divorce who got caught in the same elevator on the way to meet their lawyers.

In France, Obama brushed off Nicolas Sarkozy, the most pro-American president to occupy the Elysée Palace in my lifetime. Sarkozy had to beg for a meeting.

And Britain’s Prime Minister Gordon Brown has been treated as though the British just burned the White House — or a Kenyan village — last week.

One of the left’s high-pitched battle cries during last year’s election was: “Restore our good relations with Europe!” Welcome to reality.

The Obamas remain celebrities among some European populations. But “Old Europe’s” elected leaders are the canaries in the coal mine. And their beaks look ashen.

Even in his blame-us Cairo speech, Obama’s mention of women’s rights was aimed not at Middle Eastern savagery, but at France — where headscarves can’t be worn in public schools.

That’s rich. Our president praised the “wisdom” of King Abdullah, ignoring Saudi Arabia’s hideous treatment of women, but whacked Europeans for insisting that heads — and identities — should go uncovered in free societies.

If scarves, hijabs and chadors are so great, why didn’t our first lady go to Saudi Arabia and give us a fashion show?

Our president also noted that European imperialism did great harm to the Middle East. He neglected to mention that Muslim imperialism butchered Balkan Christians up to the eve of World War I. …

… Much of our president’s youth was spent in the Third World; his closest relatives viewed events through a wacky leftist lens — and he sat for decades in a church whose pastor ranted against Jews, “racist” America and our foreign policy. It would be astonishing if Obama hadn’t internalized such views by sheer osmosis.

The evidence of our president’s preferences is on the video record: Compare his upbeat body language and smiles as he embraces Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez or the Saudi king with the scowls he offers European leaders.

Our president not only identifies with the Third World, but with a romanticized Third World whose failings are all the West’s fault. It’s the typical view of an undergraduate leftist — in 1979.


BAM’S EURO FREEZE
NEW ICE AGE WITH OLD ALLIES

92 soxfan4life  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:38:50am

re: #78 Kosh’s Shadow

Obama probably doesn’t want to talk to Wright, either; he used Wright’s church for political purposes.
He probably spent those 20 years daydreaming of becoming President of the World.
I wonder if Obama really does worship any entity other than himself.

What will be surprising will be if he allows all of us to worship another entity other than him.

93 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:38:53am

re: #54 redc1c4

maybe he listened to him as he does the American public?

how anyone can have ears that big and still not hear is beyond me. %-)

How big ears can one man have
And still not hear voters cry.
/Apologies to Bob Dylan, for Blowin’ in the Wind.

94 Jimmah  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:38:54am

Public Enemy have fired band members for less. Wright should pray for a clue.

95 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:39:10am

re: #89 JustABill

Yes, but is he talking on the blackberry with the Rev Wrong?

you can’t call it a “blackberry”…. that’s racist.

96 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:40:10am

A lot of the comments are really idiotic:

June 9, 2009 7:34 PM
Some Israelis Insulted By Obama Picture
Posted by Howard Arenstein %P% Comments 226
World Watch from CBS News

Israeli TV newscasters Tuesday night interpreted a photo taken Monday in the Oval Office of President Obama talking on the phone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as an “insult” to Israel.

They saw the incident as somewhat akin to an incident last year, when the Iraqi reporter threw a shoe at President Bush in Baghdad.

It is considered an insult in the Arab world to show the sole of your shoe to someone. It is not a Jewish custom necessarily, but Israel feels enough a part of the Middle East after 60 years to be insulted too.

Was there a subliminal message intended from the White House to Netanyahu in Jerusalem, who is publicly resisting attempts by Mr. Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to force Israel to stop any kind of settlement activity in occupied territories once and forever?

97 opnion  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:41:06am

re: #79 soxfan4life

What makes you think he is not still pals with Wright, after all he could no more disown Jeremiah Wright than he could his own white grandmother.

Nothing about Obama would shock me. He knew nothing about Islam to speak of, but now he quotes the Koran.
He sat in Wrights Church for twenty years & never , ever heard anything provocative.
He needed to make a speech on race & he throws grandma, the person who most cared about him under the bus.
It goes on & on, but he owns the MSM.

98 kansas  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:42:11am

Of course the relationship is severed./// My head is going to explode.

99 dhg4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:42:29am

re: #87 Killgore Trout

wife beating


You can beat your wife but you have to pray afterward.

In the early 80’s the NY Times Magazine had an article about Saudi (religious) advice columnists. One example was the question of a Saudi man. His unmarried sister had gotten pregnant, so he poisoned her. His question was whether that was the proper action. The answer, IIRC, was something to the effect of, that poisoning was a bit extreme. I don’t recall if the Saudi Anne Landers actually said that it was wrong.

100 J.D.  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:42:41am

I only know one other person from Chicago who is black and he also hates Jews…

WTH is up with that?

101 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:42:56am

re: #89 JustABill

He’s no Tom Golisano.

102 baier  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:42:58am

I believe that Obama didn’t know about Wright. I think he was sitting in his pew listing to his own speeches on this ipod or walkman the entire time.

103 oldschool  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:43:34am

And we are supposed to believe that Zero sat in this mans church for 20 years and does not hold the same beliefs? Yeah right! Wright did make one mistake Zero will be out in 4 years if not sooner.

104 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:43:52am

Is Cynthia McKinney a member of his church?

105 zombie  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:44:08am

Eco-Nazis impose San Francisco’s version of the Nuremberg Laws:

Throwing away orange peels and coffee grinds now illegal in San Francisco

Throwing orange peels, coffee grounds and grease-stained pizza boxes in the trash will be against the law in San Francisco, and could even lead to a fine.

The Board of Supervisors voted 9-2 Tuesday to approve Mayor Gavin Newsom’s proposal for the most comprehensive mandatory composting and recycling law in the country. It’s an aggressive push to cut greenhouse gas emissions and have the city sending nothing to landfills or incinerators by 2020.

“San Francisco has the best recycling and composting programs in the nation,” Newsom said, praising the board’s vote on a plan that some residents had decried as heavy-handed and impractical. “We can build on our success.”

The ordinance is expected to take effect this fall.

The legislation calls for every residence and business in the city to have three separate color-coded bins for waste: blue for recycling, green for compost and black for trash.

Failing to properly sort your refuse could result in a fine…

106 Yankee Division Son  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:44:19am

OT-
Terror Names Linked To Doomed Flight AF 447

107 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:44:32am

re: #96 FurryOldGuyJeans

I’m starting to wonder about that one. Are Israelis really upset?

Israeli TV newscasters Tuesday night interpreted a photo taken Monday in the Oval Office of President Obama talking on the phone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as an “insult” to Israel.


Maybe somebody on tv said something but I think it’s really overblown by 1)lefties trying to get conservatives to embarrass themselves or 2) Righties trying to muster the troops.
Either way the story is probably much ado about nothing.

108 JustABill  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:45:36am

re: #95 redc1c4

you can’t call it a “blackberry”…. that’s racist.

and I suppose Crackberry would be a non-starter as well. Associating black with drugs and all…

Anyone want to join me in a class action suit. I was just informed that a blackberry is not in fact fruit…

109 dhg4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:46:14am

re: #107 Killgore Trout

I’m starting to wonder about that one. Are Israelis really upset?


Maybe somebody on tv said something but I think it’s really overblown by 1)lefties trying to get conservatives to embarrass themselves or 2) Righties trying to muster the troops.
Either way the story is probably much ado about nothing.

FWIW, Yaacov Lozowick agrees.

110 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:46:16am

re: #105 zombie

Prepare for a Night of the Ecologically-friendly Organic Knives.

111 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:46:22am

re: #105 zombie

Eco-Nazis impose San Francisco’s version of the Nuremberg Laws:

Throwing away orange peels and coffee grinds now illegal in San Francisco

Someone should walk by the trash boxes of Board of Supervisor members and throw away trash in the wrong box.

112 opnion  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:46:53am

re: #103 oldschool

And we are supposed to believe that Zero sat in this mans church for 20 years and does not hold the same beliefs? Yeah right! Wright did make one mistake Zero will be out in 4 years if not sooner.

Black Liberation Theology! It is a very racist ideology & Barry & Michelle not only embraced that Church, but also exposed their chidren.
If Obama disapproved, he would have got up walked out or at least quit attending.

113 J.D.  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:46:58am

re: #106 Yankee Division Son

OT-
Terror Names Linked To Doomed Flight AF 447

Very interesting.

Keep us posted on the news re: AF 447 from the other side of the pond!

114 capitalist piglet  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:47:15am

re: #107 Killgore Trout

I’m starting to wonder about that one. Are Israelis really upset?


Maybe somebody on tv said something but I think it’s really overblown by 1)lefties trying to get conservatives to embarrass themselves or 2) Righties trying to muster the troops.
Either way the story is probably much ado about nothing.

Well, it’s a report from CBS News, if that provides a clue.

115 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:47:40am

Jeremiah Wright, you are SUCH a kind-hearted, forgiving, man.
You are a paragon of Christian virtue, an exemplar to all.

////////////

No, you are a racist ASS.
And Obama has said he got his religion from you — what exactly was that?

116 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:47:50am

re: #96 FurryOldGuyJeans

re: #107 Killgore Trout

MINOR ,,,,

hell, I wondered what World Leaders Bubba was talking to while getting a Lewinsky? Do you think those leaders were offended?

“Gee Bill, we could agree on this treaty if only you’d put lil Billy away ling enogh to listen”

////

117 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:48:23am

re: #105 zombie

The Board of Supervisors voted 9-2 Tuesday to approve Mayor Gavin Newsom’s proposal for the most comprehensive mandatory composting and recycling law in the country. It’s an aggressive push to cut greenhouse gas emissions and have the city sending nothing to landfills or incinerators by 2020.

Fact check: composting vegetable matter produces CO2 from fermentation.

118 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:48:33am

re: #108 JustABill

and I suppose Crackberry would be a non-starter as well. Associating black with drugs and all…

Anyone want to join me in a class action suit. I was just informed that a blackberry is not in fact fruit…

just make sure you give islamic culture proper credit for creating it in the first place……

119 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:49:13am

re: #107 Killgore Trout

The article itself is just partisan boilerplate; read the comments, which is the reason I posted the article. So many are just plain toxic.

120 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:49:37am

The One has some serious explaining to do.

/has, or has not, someone opened his kimono for him?

121 JustABill  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:49:56am

re: #106 Yankee Division Son

OT-
Terror Names Linked To Doomed Flight AF 447

I don’t think anything will come of this, probably just similar names on the list. If were lucky two would be terrorists got on the wrong plane. I have not heard anything about any group claiming responsibility. If it were terrorists, we’d have heard about it from the terrorists.

122 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:49:57am

re: #117 Kenneth

Fact check: composting vegetable matter produces CO2 from fermentation.

but that’s different!

123 brookly red  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:50:08am

re: #111 Kosh’s Shadow

Someone should walk by the trash boxes of Board of Supervisor members and throw away trash in the wrong box.

/ I think that would be considered a felony…

124 MJ  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:50:14am

Yup, and I’m suppose to believe that a man who sat listening to this crap for 20 years and found absolutely nothing in those words which would question why he’s still sitting there, isn’t himself an a antisemite?

125 opnion  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:50:15am

re: #115 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Jeremiah Wright, you are SUCH a kind-hearted, forgiving, man.
You are a paragon of Christian virtue, an exemplar to all.

////////////

No, you are a racist ASS.
And Obama has said he got his religion from you — what exactly was that?

The mansion that the Church built for Wright is in Orland Park, IL.
It is a really White suburb.

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:50:22am

re: #53 OldLineTexan

The faux-religious imagery was all through his campaign.

The only shock to me was that someone was finally honest enough to admit it.

/Rev. Wright is despicable, but apparently honest (at least now).

I don’t think it’s honesty, I think it’s revenge. This is “Reverend II: The Reckoning”. You thought a mere BUS could get this guy under control?

This been picked up anywhere else? I don’t know the website. Are they reliable?

127 zombie  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:50:52am

re: #117 Kenneth

Fact check: composting vegetable matter produces CO2 from fermentation.

Bwahahahaha!

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Delicious!

128 J.D.  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:51:06am

re: #124 MJ

Yup, and I’m suppose to believe that a man who sat listening to this crap for 20 years and found absolutely nothing in those words which would question why he’s still sitting there, isn’t himself an a antisemite?

Yes, that is what you are supposed to believe…

all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.

129 shortshrift  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:51:53am

re: #32 jcm

Thank you for posting this reminder of the underdogma that pervades political thought on the left. No legitimacy without suffering: the intertwining of Christianity and Marxism. (Not just at Wright’s church, also Lutherans and others)
What I find amusing is that leftist atheists are now putting themselves out as an oppressed group. See Dawkins’ The God Delusion.

130 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:52:34am

And this is supposed to be surprising?

WSJ %P% JUNE 10, 2009
Boom Town
Washington is awash in money.

At least there’s one place in America that’s wearing like Teflon through the recession: Washington, D.C. Most corners of the economy may be struggling, but in the nation’s capital it’s boom times, baby.

According to new data, the area’s unemployment rate dropped to 5.6% in April from 5.9% in March. This is the second consecutive month of improvement for Washingtonians, and it’s leagues from the national unemployment rate, which hit 9.4% in May.

131 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:52:34am

re: #122 redc1c4

but that’s different!

yeah, it’s “green” CO2!

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:53:03am

re: #78 Kosh’s Shadow

Obama probably doesn’t want to talk to Wright, either; he used Wright’s church for political purposes.
He probably spent those 20 years daydreaming of becoming President of the World.
I wonder if Obama really does worship any entity other than himself.

Thing is, I think the Reverend spent those 20 years daydreaming of becoming the eminence grise of Obama’s Presidency. Now that that’s over, he is taking a shot at becoming its bete noir.

133 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:53:22am

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

Thing is, I think the Reverend spent those 20 years daydreaming of becoming the eminence grise of Obama’s Presidency. Now that that’s over, he is taking a shot at becoming its bete noir.

Racist!

134 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:53:58am

re: #109 dhg4

FWIW, Yaacov Lozowick agrees.

He’s criticizing some else’s reaction….

The subtext, I think, is that Israelis are barbarians like the Arabs. True, Mondoweiss has tremendous empathy for Arabs and generally prefers them to, say, Israelis or Americans, but it’s not real respect - else why poke fun at Israelis for being like them? It’s a primitive and ludicrous thing to get insulted by shoes, unless it’s shoes being thrown at Bush, but definately if it’s Obama’s shoes while talking on the phone to Netanyahu.

The report, by the way, knows to tell that Obama’s tallking on the phone to Netanyahu. How this is known is beyond me.

If you follow the links it eventually traces back to the cbs story.

135 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:54:04am

re: #110 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Prepare for a Night of the Ecologically-friendly Organic Knives.

i’m always amused at the local store when the regular and the organic lettuce is displayed right next to each other, but the funniest thing was the time the lady was kvetching to her daughter about how hard it was to find “organic eggs”…. as i took my box of jumbos, i asked her if she thought they had come from an egg machine, instead of a chicken. she puffed up at me, but the daughter smirked behind her back.

136 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:54:45am

I’m more concerned about the Jew-haters within Obama’s administration than the ones he left behind in Chicago.

137 jcm  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:55:15am

re: #106 Yankee Division Son

OT-
Terror Names Linked To Doomed Flight AF 447



Engineer decodes Air France Flight 447 emergency messages

The error messages sent by the plane show that multiple computer failures happened simultaneously, starting at 02:10 GMT, when a series of 14 warnings and failures emerged at once.

[snip]

The cryptic lines contain chilling meaning.

First, the auto pilot system disengaged. Then came a basic auto flight message warning. Next, something within the flight control computer failed. Then, warning flags appeared on the primary flight displays of the captain and co-pilot. Then the rudder exceeds the limits of normal flight. And on it goes.

“With all of these failures, they don’t have the information that they need to fly the aircraft in a safe environment,” Darryl says. “If the pilot or first officer don’t have any display functioning, then they’re flying blind in the night. … You’re trying to fly the aircraft with no technology.”

The last message received is a cryptic “213100206ADVISORY” warning at 02:14 GMT. It indicates loss of cabin pressure.

4 minutes from the start to loss of cabin pressure.

Lots of ways to write the scenario. But a small bomb could start such a error cascade, so could lightning strike, or sufficient turbulence to get the plane so far out of flight parameters the computers choked.

138 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:55:27am

re: #117 Kenneth

Fact check: composting vegetable matter produces CO2 from fermentation.

Water vapor, one of the least mentioned and implicated greenhouse gases, is also a bi-product of composting. But why let facts get in the way of feel-good initiatives.

139 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:55:34am

re: #95 redc1c4

you can’t call it a “blackberry”…. that’s racist.

They could call it a crunchberry, but then Cap’n Crunch would have to put one inside every box.

140 dentate  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:55:48am

“Them Jews aren’t going to let him talk to me”

Yes, we Elders are monitoring the Barackberry very carefully…

/src

141 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:55:52am

re: #131 Kenneth

yeah, it’s “green” CO2!

and a shitload of methane too…. some of the old dumps here in LA have flare towers on them.

142 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:56:15am

re: #110 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Prepare for a Night of the Ecologically-friendly Organic Knives.

You’re both overreacting, but that’s pretty funny.

143 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:56:16am

re: #111 Kosh’s Shadow

Someone should walk by the trash boxes of Board of Supervisor members and throw away trash in the wrong box.


Better,
Just open up their trash and take pictures of it, exposing their inevitable hypocrisy.

144 dentate  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:56:27am

re: #133 Kenneth

Racist!


RFLMAO

145 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:56:51am

re: #135 redc1c4

i’m always amused at the local store when the regular and the organic lettuce is displayed right next to each other, but the funniest thing was the time the lady was kvetching to her daughter about how hard it was to find “organic eggs”…. as i took my box of jumbos, i asked her if she thought they had come from an egg machine, instead of a chicken. she puffed up at me, but the daughter smirked behind her back.

Whenever I hear “Organic Foods”, I immeadiately think “As opposed to inorganic foods, like silicates?”

146 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:57:02am

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

Thing is, I think the Reverend spent those 20 years daydreaming of becoming the eminence grise of Obama’s Presidency. Now that that’s over, he is taking a shot at becoming its bete noir.

well, he’s one greasy cat, that’s for sure.

(or is that slime? it’s so hard to tell. %-)

147 mich-again  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:57:05am

I said last year when the flak over Reverend Wright first surfaced that his message was identical to the one being pushed by Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.

TUCC is nothing more than NOI hiding behind a Cross. So when I see Jeremiah Wright making an anti-semitic screed its hardly a surprise.

148 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:57:16am

re: #130 FurryOldGuyJeans

DC real estate market is holding up much better than the rest of the country too…

/I wonder why? Snort…

149 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:57:49am

OT

Palau to take Guantanamo’s Chinese detainees

They could be housed in the old caves in Peleliu’s Umurbrogol.

/dark and bloody metaphor

150 wiffersnapper  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:58:09am

It’s those goddamn Jews again!

/sarc

151 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:58:56am

re: #137 jcm

4 minutes from the start to loss of cabin pressure.

Lots of ways to write the scenario. But a small bomb could start such a error cascade, so could lightning strike, or sufficient turbulence to get the plane so far out of flight parameters the computers choked.

I’m wondering if it could be an electronic attack from someone on board?

It seems that it might be possible to get a transmitter of some sort on board. Would the avionics be well enough shielded to prevent such a thing?

152 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:59:03am
153 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:59:10am

re: #137 jcm

4 minutes from the start to loss of cabin pressure.

Lots of ways to write the scenario. But a small bomb could start such a error cascade, so could lightning strike, or sufficient turbulence to get the plane so far out of flight parameters the computers choked.

kinda makes an argument for hard function backup controls and instruments, don’t it?

154 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:59:55am

re: #135 redc1c4

i’m always amused at the local store when the regular and the organic lettuce is displayed right next to each other, but the funniest thing was the time the lady was kvetching to her daughter about how hard it was to find “organic eggs”…. as i took my box of jumbos, i asked her if she thought they had come from an egg machine, instead of a chicken. she puffed up at me, but the daughter smirked behind her back.

In Mass, there are plenty of “natural” eggs; ones from free-range chickens fed better food, resulting in eggs that are lower in cholesterol and twice the price of regular eggs.
I eat so few eggs I’m not switching.

155 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 9:59:59am

re: #145 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whenever I hear “Organic Foods”, I immeadiately think “As opposed to inorganic foods, like silicates?”

I usually just remember the worms in my corn….

156 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:00:19am

Ah, FOX has it now.

157 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:00:26am

re: #151 eschew_obfuscation

I’m wondering if it could be an electronic attack from someone on board?

It seems that it might be possible to get a transmitter of some sort on board. Would the avionics be well enough shielded to prevent such a thing?

the answer to that should be an OPSEC item…..

158 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:00:31am
159 JustABill  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:00:36am

I wonder if Boeing will see any new orders from this mess? One can hope…

160 rhino2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:00:48am

Being the most powerful force in the known universe, you’d think them jooos would already have every bit of land they wanted alread, not to mention be able to shut up the likes of Wright.

161 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:01:25am
162 Dianna  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:01:28am

re: #105 zombie

So how come the streets are filthy?

163 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:01:30am

re: #154 Kosh’s Shadow

In Mass, there are plenty of “natural” eggs; ones from free-range chickens fed better food, resulting in eggs that are lower in cholesterol and twice the price of regular eggs.
I eat so few eggs I’m not switching.

i only eat a couple a day, most days. %-)

164 opnion  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:01:55am

re: #147 mich-again

I said last year when the flak over Reverend Wright first surfaced that his message was identical to the one being pushed by Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.

TUCC is nothing more than NOI hiding behind a Cross. So when I see Jeremiah Wright making an anti-semitic screed its hardly a surprise.

Wright, Farakhan & Father Phlager form a really despicable trio.
When the Cardinal suspended Phlager for some outrageous act, his congregation demanded his immediate reinstatement or they threatened to all become Protestants.

165 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:02:03am

re: #160 rhino2

Being the most powerful force in the known universe, you’d think them jooos would already have every bit of land they wanted alread, not to mention be able to shut up the likes of Wright.

at least some with oil under it anyway…… %-)

166 ointmentfly  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:02:17am

The last time the Jewish vote was below 50% for the democrat in a presidental race was 1980…. Just another example of the democrat party’s ability to bring opposing groups like fundamentalist african americans and jews into the same voting booth….

167 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:02:39am

re: #164 opnion

Wright, Farakhan & Father Phlager form a really despicable trio.
When the Cardinal suspended Phlager for some outrageous act, his congregation demanded his immediate reinstatement or they threatened to all become Protestants.

that would have been no great loss for anyone but the Protestants.

168 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:03:03am
169 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:03:16am

re: #154 Kosh’s Shadow

In Mass, there are plenty of “natural” eggs; ones from free-range chickens fed better food, resulting in eggs that are lower in cholesterol and twice the price of regular eggs.
I eat so few eggs I’m not switching.

Trader Joe’s has free-range eggs that aren’t too expensive. I prefer ‘em, I’m sentimental about chickens. Not that sentimental; I eat them. But I figure if something’s going to lay eggs for me it should be allowed to walk around and eat bugs.

170 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:03:35am

re: #162 Dianna

So how come the streets are filthy?

because washing them would waste water?

171 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:03:48am

re: #137 jcm

Lots of ways to write the scenario. But a small bomb could start such a error cascade, so could lightning strike, or sufficient turbulence to get the plane so far out of flight parameters the computers choked.

Question:

IMHO, Occam’s Razor seems to lean toward a bomb. Don’t know about the effects of a lightning strike, but turbulence sufficient to cause such a cataclysm is a more-complex scenario.

What do you think?

172 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:03:50am

I wonder what Rev Wrights opinion of Sammy Davis Jr. are? ( a very famous African American ,,,,,,,,,,,who happened to be JEWISH!))

173 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:03:51am

re: #161 taxfreekiller

RAIN—-SNOW—-SUN SHINE—- NIGHT TIME—- EEEEEKKKKKKK

TFK—you doing OK?

174 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:04:17am

re: #169 SanFranciscoZionist

Trader Joe’s has free-range eggs that aren’t too expensive. I prefer ‘em, I’m sentimental about chickens. Not that sentimental; I eat them. But I figure if something’s going to lay eggs for me it should be allowed to walk around and eat bugs.

but no free range Jumbos…. %-(

175 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:05:03am

Where have the adults gone?

Jun 9, 2009 11:10 pm US/Eastern
Chaos Rules The Day In The Capital District
Democrats Furious Over GOP Coup, Vow To Take Back Locked Senate Chamber; Republicans Push For Work To Resume

ALBANY (CBS) ― Aftershocks of the New York State Senate shake up were rippling through the state capital Tuesday. With all the chaos, confusion and hard feelings, many in Albany are wondering who’s in charge and what happens next?

Less than a month ago, Democrats and Republicans posed like one big happy family for their class picture, but a dramatic coup to depose Senate Majority Leader Malcolm Smith has left everybody in Albany wondering what’s happening next, and has left an awful lot of hard feelings.

“I think it’s absolutely distasteful, it was a side show,” Smith spokesman Austin Shaffran said. “It was politics at the worst and its something Senate Republicans should be ashamed of.”

Might as well bring back the Nika riots.

176 dentate  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:05:05am

re: #149 pre-Boomer Marine brat

OT

Palau to take Guantanamo’s Chinese detainees

They could be housed in the old caves in Peleliu’s Umurbrogol.

/dark and bloody metaphor

I have been both to Xinjiang, home of the Uighur people, and to Palau. They are DEFINITELY going to be glad they are captured Jihadis! In fact they might invite their families to join them…

I suspect this has to do with the very close relationship Palau maintains with Taiwan, so that the mainland has essentially zero leverage to get them out of there.

177 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:05:32am

re: #171 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Question:

IMHO, Occam’s Razor seems to lean toward a bomb. Don’t know about the effects of a lightning strike, but turbulence sufficient to cause such a cataclysm is a more-complex scenario.

What do you think?

computer foul up has been touted as the likely culprit from the git go, so we’ll have to wait and see. there is a history of that with the model, and IIRC, this plane in particular.

178 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:05:44am

re: #145 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whenever I hear “Organic Foods”, I immeadiately think “As opposed to inorganic foods, like silicates?”

As you know, table salt is technically inorganic, as are all minerals.

The nutters talking about “organic” foods usually mean foods grown without inorganic pesticides. Inorganic fertilizers, curiously, are usually OK.

In the case of livestock, the term means no added hormones (even though those are also organic) or antibiotics.

179 opnion  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:05:51am

re: #167 redc1c4

that would have been no great loss for anyone but the Protestants.

Exactly, it sure sounded like a hollow threat.
St. Sabina Church where Phlager is Pastor is more Afro-Centric than Catholic. It is really something when Phlager goes into Black dialect.

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:06:00am

re: #172 sattv4u2

I wonder what Rev Wrights opinion of Sammy Davis Jr. are? ( a very famous African American ,,,,,,,,,,,who happened to be JEWISH!))

Jamaica Kincaid, too. And of course, Michelle’s cousin.

181 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:06:17am

re: #175 FurryOldGuyJeans

I postee that yesterday morning in the overnight along with the story about Pelosi refusing to meet with Republicans on the hill

DEMS ,,,,, pitching hissy fits since the early 70’s

182 jcm  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:06:29am

re: #153 redc1c4

kinda makes an argument for hard function backup controls and instruments, don’t it?

Yep, nice to have cables connected flight controls and hydraulic pressure backup.

183 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:06:57am

re: #179 opnion

Exactly, it sure sounded like a hollow threat.
St. Sabina Church where Phlager is Pastor is more Afro-Centric than Catholic. It is really something when Phlager goes into Black dialect.

i’ll pass on that experience, thankyouverymuch.

184 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:06:59am

re: #177 redc1c4

computer foul up has been touted as the likely culprit from the git go, so we’ll have to wait and see. there is a history of that with the model, and IIRC, this plane in particular.

Without the black boxes a definitive and conclusive recreation is nigh impossible.

185 dhg4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:07:12am

re: #134 Killgore Trout

Well yes, it was based on Weiss’s fevered interpretation, but it was still basically what you said: someone is making something out of nothing.

186 Dianna  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:07:50am

re: #170 redc1c4

because washing them would waste water?

Fire a couple of Gavin’s aids and buy the homeless some brooms and dustpans. Give ‘em ten bucks for every filled garbage bag.

We’ve already got elderly Asians who carefully extract every bottle and can tossed in the trash. Why not give the homeless some healthy exercise, too?

Anything would help.

187 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:07:54am

re: #151 eschew_obfuscation

I’m wondering if it could be an electronic attack from someone on board?

It seems that it might be possible to get a transmitter of some sort on board. Would the avionics be well enough shielded to prevent such a thing?

Like some small EMP device? Not sure if they even exist.

188 Kronocide  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:08:00am

Wow, just wow. The Crazy just keeps on coming. The detractors of those who called ‘the spade a spade’ (Wright) have lost whatever wisps of relative credibility they had.

There is no way out of this. Wright is a racist agitator in a fine Sunday Suit.

189 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:08:23am

re: #171 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Question:

IMHO, Occam’s Razor seems to lean toward a bomb. Don’t know about the effects of a lightning strike, but turbulence sufficient to cause such a cataclysm is a more-complex scenario.

What do you think?


I think that a terrorist bomb never proven as such defeats the whole purpose of the attack.

Its analogous to the “Dr. Strangelove” prinicple, that there is no point in having an atomic bomb unless everyone knows it, since most of the value of the bomb is in its deterrent effect.

In the case of terrorism, if the attack gets written off as an unfortunate accident, its wasted.

190 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:08:42am

re: #178 looking closely

As you know, table salt is technically inorganic, as are all minerals.

The nutters talking about “organic” foods usually mean foods grown without inorganic pesticides. Inorganic fertilizers, curiously, are usually OK.

In the case of livestock, the term means no added hormones (even though those are also organic) or antibiotics.

Really? I had no idea. And here I thought I had something going with my Rock Salt and Bauxite diet.

/

191 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:09:06am

re: #182 jcm

Yep, nice to have cables connected flight controls and hydraulic pressure backup.

somewhere, there’s a picture that someone shopped the “blue screen of death” onto all the control screens of a modern jet…….

192 whiterasta  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:10:06am

Had it been a terrorist bomb, the barbarians would have been dancing in the streets of gaza.

I highly doubt it.

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:10:12am

re: #186 Dianna

Fire a couple of Gavin’s aids and buy the homeless some brooms and dustpans. Give ‘em ten bucks for every filled garbage bag.

We’ve already got elderly Asians who carefully extract every bottle and can tossed in the trash. Why not give the homeless some healthy exercise, too?

Anything would help.

Sunset Scavengers refers to the elderly Asians as ‘recycling pirates’. They even went through a period of telling us all to defend our trash from them. Right. I am going to burst out of my house at the crack of dawn and confront a lady old enough to be my grandmother, who speaks no English, and take back my Coke cans.

My dad calls them ‘privateers’.

194 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:10:16am

re: #184 FurryOldGuyJeans

Without the black boxes a definitive and conclusive recreation is nigh impossible.

and they’re what, 15,000 feet under water, or more?

195 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:10:23am

re: #188 BigPapa

Wow, just wow. The Crazy just keeps on coming. The detractors of those who called ‘the spade a spade’ (Wright) have lost whatever wisps of relative credibility they had.

There is no way out of this. Wright is a racist agitator in a fine Sunday Suit.

But Obama threw him under the bus, so the story lacks traction.

Its too late for “told you so”, though maybe a few of the ones who thought the Wright “story” was a fabrication or exaggeration will wake up a bit now.

196 zombie  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:10:31am

re: #186 Dianna

We’ve already got elderly Asians who carefully extract every bottle and can tossed in the trash. Why not give the homeless some healthy exercise, too?

As always, zombietime has a picture of that exact scene!

Old Asian lady collecting recyclables in front of the Apple store.

197 Summersong  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:10:32am

Breaking news -Shooting on 14th street, near holocaust museum.

198 tedzilla99  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:10:40am

Please keep the Rev and his words in mind whenever you think that Barry might be a friend of Israel. There is absolutely no way that Barry stays in his church as long as he did and calls him his spiritual mentor unless they have the same beliefs. A person could easily suffer thru this nonsense for political reasons, but not get to be as buddy-buddy as those 2 are unless they are on the same page. I don’t think it’s even debatable.

199 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:10:59am

re: #176 dentate

I have been both to Xinjiang, home of the Uighur people, and to Palau. They are DEFINITELY going to be glad they are captured Jihadis! In fact they might invite their families to join them…

I suspect this has to do with the very close relationship Palau maintains with Taiwan, so that the mainland has essentially zero leverage to get them out of there.

Interesting. Didn’t know about the latter. Thanks.

BTW, do you know of a web site which has good photos of The Point today? (If you’re not a WWII buff, it’s the outcropping at the immediate northern end of the old landing beaches, at the south end of Beliliou [Peleliu].)

200 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:11:09am

re: #137 jcm

4 minutes from the start to loss of cabin pressure.

Lots of ways to write the scenario. But a small bomb could start such a error cascade, so could lightning strike, or sufficient turbulence to get the plane so far out of flight parameters the computers choked.

Here are some comments from AvWeek
First, on the speed sensors

Industry officials and pilots note that the aircraft should still be flyable even if the speed sensors malfunctioned, suggesting if the anomaly turns out to be related to the crash, it would likely be only one in a series of events that brought down AF 447.


Second, on turbulence and lightening

As for the possibility of a midair breakup due to exceeding limit loads in turbulence, Cox believes it would be an extremely rare occurrence. The A330 is a “tough airplane” that has been flying in turbulence for decades without mishap, and this event was the first fatal accident involving a passenger flight.

Early speculation about Flight 447 centered on a scenario in which lightning knocked out the aircraft’s electrical system. Cox - who says airplanes on average are struck once every two years without serious system problems - notes that Airbus heavily shields fly-by-wire flight control computers to ensure that a strike does not present a problem. The A330’s main fuselage is made of aluminum alloy; it has about 10% composite structure, mainly in the horizontal tail plane.

A complete failure would require 100% failure of the electrical system, including generators, ram air and battery. And that (a total failure) did not happen early in the flight, notes Cox, because the system was uplinking data to the maintenance facility, indicating there was some electricity on the airplane. On the other hand, “if you’ve lost 100% electricity - all five computers - you’ve lost the airplane.”

Of all possibilities, little attention has been focused so far on Flight 447’s reported pressurization problem, which may have been a major factor in the crash.


So what caused the sudden breakup and depressurization if it is unlikely that turbulence, lightening, or the pitot tubes were the problem?
No one is taking credit for terrorism, but maybe this was the trial run of a new system, and there will be coordinated attempts later? Such things have been planned, but the terrorists were always caught first.

201 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:11:25am

re: #77 zombie

Them Jews them Jews them sly Jews….

I’m working on a Broadway version of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Could I use your song for the opening number?

202 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:11:30am

re: #177 redc1c4

computer foul up has been touted as the likely culprit from the git go, so we’ll have to wait and see. there is a history of that with the model, and IIRC, this plane in particular.

Thanks.

203 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:11:41am

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

Sunset Scavengers refers to the elderly Asians as ‘recycling pirates’. They even went through a period of telling us all to defend our trash from them. Right. I am going to burst out of my house at the crack of dawn and confront a lady old enough to be my grandmother, who speaks no English, and take back my Coke cans.

My dad calls them ‘privateers’.

the illegals, and others, are actually organized here in LA. you can see teams hop out of a truck and ransack a blocks worth of bins in minutes. it’s illegal, but try getting the cops to show up.

204 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:11:46am

re: #196 zombie

As always, zombietime has a picture of that exact scene!

Old Asian lady collecting recyclables in front of the Apple store.

I think I recognize her…

205 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:12:05am

Maybe this teen will do better than the adults, he certainly can’t do worse:

Fremont [CA] Teen Runs for City Council
By LORI PREUITT
Updated 6:47 AM PDT, Wed, Jun 10, 2009

While most 16-year-olds are focused on their next video game fix or how to wrangle the keys from their parents for a weekend outing, one Fremont student has his eyes on a different kind of prize.

Ishan Shah has announced his candidacy for Fremont City Council. The election is in 2010.

Now, there is no way to know how this story will end yet, but it sure started like a Disney movie. Picture a group of students meeting at a coffee house on a Friday night debating whether a student candidate for city council was practical idea. Other patrons are drawn in to the discussion which ends with a fiery speech and a standing ovation from strangers and friends alike as the candidate signs the official 501 form declaring his intent to run.

Shah is 16 today, but will be the required 18 by election day.

The Mission High School junior certainly looks like he’s taking the effort seriously. He has a Web site, an exploratory committee and two published position papers.

206 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:12:05am

re: #190 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Really? I had no idea. And here I thought I had something going with my Rock Salt and Bauxite diet.

/


Water is also inorganic (/I note dryly).

Hey, you can always pour out the slop from inside the soda can and just eat the can.

207 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:12:12am

re: #197 Summersong

Breaking news -Shooting on 14th street, near holocaust museum.

How can there be a museum for something that never happened?

//regards ,, dinnerjacket

208 acwgusa  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:12:23am

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

Sunset Scavengers refers to the elderly Asians as ‘recycling pirates’. They even went through a period of telling us all to defend our trash from them. Right. I am going to burst out of my house at the crack of dawn and confront a lady old enough to be my grandmother, who speaks no English, and take back my Coke cans.

My dad calls them ‘privateers’.

Seriously? Calling them Recycling Pirates? I have NO faith in humanity anymore.

209 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:12:23am

re: #189 looking closely

I think that a terrorist bomb never proven as such defeats the whole purpose of the attack.

Its analogous to the “Dr. Strangelove” prinicple, that there is no point in having an atomic bomb unless everyone knows it, since most of the value of the bomb is in its deterrent effect.

In the case of terrorism, if the attack gets written off as an unfortunate accident, its wasted.

Hmmmm. True.

210 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:12:26am

re: #197 Summersong

Breaking news -Shooting on 14th street, near holocaust museum.

what city?

211 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:12:42am

re: #145 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whenever I hear “Organic Foods”, I immeadiately think “As opposed to inorganic foods, like silicates?”

I saw a truck carrying “some name’s Organics” and I felt like asking the driver
“Got benzene?”

212 zombie  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:13:00am

re: #201 John Neverbend

I’m working on a Broadway version of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Could I use your song for the opening number?

Be my guest! Credit to “zombie.”

If you make as much money as the partners in “The Producers,” donate some of the profits to my PayPal account.

213 Lincolntf  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:13:20am

re: #188 BigPapa

During the campaign, calling this racist a racist was racist. What a world.

214 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:13:25am

re: #194 redc1c4

and they’re what, 15,000 feet under water, or more?

Something like that. This is shaping up to be yet another aviation mystery story.

215 MikeAlv77  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:13:26am

re: #159 JustABill

I wonder if Boeing will see any new orders from this mess? One can hope…

A little sick to be thinking of that. Could be a flight control failure which could also happen to Boeing. Now, don’t get me wrong, I like Boeing and mechanic friends say they would only fly a Boeing.

216 jcm  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:13:43am

re: #171 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Question:

IMHO, Occam’s Razor seems to lean toward a bomb. Don’t know about the effects of a lightning strike, but turbulence sufficient to cause such a cataclysm is a more-complex scenario.

What do you think?

It’s hard to write a lightning scenario, the airframe is in effect a Faraday cage, it’s plausible for lightning to hit the nose, which is RF transparent for the radar and find a path into the electronics bay and wreck havoc. As the flight control computers die, in the turbulence the pilots input a full rudder deflection and the vert stab separates, once that happens the plane is subject to enough forces to start the break up.

Turbulence so upset the plane the computers can’t deal with it, and disconnect the autopilot. Again a situation where the rudder could be deflected enough to separate the vert stab.

Bomb would be easiest, I agree. Either in the back where controls to vert and horzi stabs are damaged, or in the front where the electronics bay is damaged. Could lead to the same path, vert stab separation and disintegrations.

217 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:14:18am

re: #206 looking closely

Water is also inorganic (/I note dryly).

I think you mean Dihydrogen Monoxide, a substance that should be banned!

[Link: www.petitiononline.com…]

218 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:14:26am

re: #200 Kosh’s Shadow

That’s part of my thinking too.

219 itellu3times  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:15:07am

re: #154 Kosh’s Shadow

In Mass, there are plenty of “natural” eggs; ones from free-range chickens fed better food, resulting in eggs that are lower in cholesterol and twice the price of regular eggs.
I eat so few eggs I’m not switching.

Eggs? We’re talking about eggs!?!

I actually like these Golden Circle eggs, they feed the chickens algae or something, to get the best kind of omega-3’s in there, much better than flaxseed. Price has gone up a lot in the last two years, tho, and they’re getting hard to find.

It’s the Joos, ethnic cleansing the omega-6’s from our chickens when they come home to roost.

220 JustABill  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:15:09am

re: #203 redc1c4

the illegals, and others, are actually organized here in LA. you can see teams hop out of a truck and ransack a blocks worth of bins in minutes. it’s illegal, but try getting the cops to show up.

Are they hurting anyone or anything? I’d put up a sign telling them not to do it just to protect myself in case one of them is hurt and let them have the trash…

221 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:15:09am

re: #211 Kosh’s Shadow

I saw a truck carrying “some name’s Organics” and I felt like asking the driver
“Got benzene?”

There was a SciFi series where in the future, one of the most powerful corporations in existense was the CHON (Carbon Hydrogen Oxygen Nitrogen) Foods Corp. They also had recycling rights to every bit of organic matter they could get their hands on.

222 debutaunt  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:15:23am

re: #162 Dianna

So how come the streets are filthy?

That’s organic filth, Missy!

223 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:15:30am

re: #209 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hmmmm. True.

This is such that there would be multiple acting incentives for investigators/gov’ts to discount/minimize discussion of terrorism in any case like this.

That said, if there actually were good evidence of terrorism, it would be next to impossible to suppress, as too many people are involved in the investigation.

224 jcm  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:15:42am

re: #191 redc1c4

somewhere, there’s a picture that someone shopped the “blue screen of death” onto all the control screens of a modern jet…….

Top secret photo of the short lived Microsoft Boeing experiment.

225 itellu3times  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:15:45am

re: #207 sattv4u2

How can there be a museum for something that never happened?

//regards ,, dinnerjacket

Valet parking for the unicorn you rode in on.

226 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:15:46am

Several people shot inside the HolocAust museum in DC…..breaking

227 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:16:00am

re: #210 redc1c4

what city?

DC.

228 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:16:08am
229 Zimriel  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:16:19am

re: #164 opnion

Wright, Farakhan & Father Phlager form a really despicable trio.
When the Cardinal suspended Phlager for some outrageous act, his congregation demanded his immediate reinstatement or they threatened to all become Protestants.

If a congregation does that, they’re blackmailing the Church. Sounds like a case for Benedict to get mediaeval on their asses, with a bulk excommunication.

230 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:16:34am

re: #220 JustABill

Are they hurting anyone or anything? I’d put up a sign telling them not to do it just to protect myself in case one of them is hurt and let them have the trash…

IIRC the problem was they would literally ransack, taking what they wanted and leaving the rest as a scattered mess for the residents to clean up.

231 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:16:36am

re: #216 jcm

It’s hard to write a lightning scenario, the airframe is in effect a Faraday cage, it’s plausible for lightning to hit the nose, which is RF transparent for the radar and find a path into the electronics bay and wreck havoc. As the flight control computers die, in the turbulence the pilots input a full rudder deflection and the vert stab separates, once that happens the plane is subject to enough forces to start the break up.

Turbulence so upset the plane the computers can’t deal with it, and disconnect the autopilot. Again a situation where the rudder could be deflected enough to separate the vert stab.

Bomb would be easiest, I agree. Either in the back where controls to vert and horzi stabs are damaged, or in the front where the electronics bay is damaged. Could lead to the same path, vert stab separation and disintegrations.

Hmmmmm. Guess we don’t know enough.

/hopefully, that can be appended with “yet”

232 Summersong  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:16:53am
what city?

Washington, D.C. Two people shot, suspect in custody.

233 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:16:54am

“I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office.”

Why was he telling this to his baby daughter? Presumably, she’s the only person who actually listens to him (unlike Mr. Obama, who never listened to his sermons). What the Reverend doesn’t tell us is whether or not his baby had the good sense to throw up on him, after he’d finished telling her about “them Jews”.

234 HelloDare  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:16:55am

So let me get this straight. Reverend Wright is and was a racists and an anti-Semite but his church wasn’t racist and anti-Semitic when Barack was attending. Or it was racists and anti-Semitic but Obama in all his wisdom never noticed.

235 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:17:03am

re: #175 FurryOldGuyJeans

It’s a self-imposed disaster, and it could have been avoided had the Democrats gone and investigated Monserrate and Espada for their criminal and ethical malfeasance instead of ignoring it so they could remain in power. Now that they’re not, those two have a bullseye on ‘em (rightfully so, I might add).

The GOP benefits from all this, and the stupidity of Democrats in Albany doesn’t hurt.

Still, none of them - Democrat or Republican - is showing any leadership and demanding that the budget be revisited to balance it because the one they just passed is already billions in the hole because all the revenue projections are off and spending is far higher than anyone should have responsibly voted for in the first place.

The clown circus continues.

Meanwhile, fiscal irresponsibility remains in vogue around the nation and in DC, where the new health care plans being proposed can only include massive tax hikes across the board, despite Obama’s goal not to seek tax hikes on 95% of Americans because there’s no other way to afford this mess without imposing steep taxes.

236 Baier  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:17:03am

re: #226 DistantThunder

Several people shot inside the HolocAust museum in DC…..breaking

Link?

237 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:17:12am

re: #16 buzzsawmonkey

Thank you, Reverend Wright, for reminding us why the Torah tells us to avoid swine.

I demand an apology on behalf of the world’s swine.

Swine do not hate. Nor do they attempt to instill hate in other swine.

238 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:17:30am

re: #189 looking closely

I think that a terrorist bomb never proven as such defeats the whole purpose of the attack.

Its analogous to the “Dr. Strangelove” prinicple, that there is no point in having an atomic bomb unless everyone knows it, since most of the value of the bomb is in its deterrent effect.

In the case of terrorism, if the attack gets written off as an unfortunate accident, its wasted.

Unless they’re testing a new system and have a large-scale attack planned if it works. If so, they have something that got through security; if they took credit, it might not get through security when their major attack is ready.

And simultaneous attacks against aircraft have been planned before, but the terrorists got caught first.

239 Baier  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:17:39am

re: #234 HelloDare

So let me get this straight. Reverend Wright is and was a racists and an anti-Semite but his church wasn’t racist and anti-Semitic when Barack was attending. Or it was racists and anti-Semitic but Obama in all his wisdom never noticed.

how could he notice, he was seated by a mirror.

240 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:18:00am

re: #236 Baier

I’m watching live on Fox

Link?

241 itellu3times  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:18:13am

re: #234 HelloDare

So let me get this straight. Reverend Wright is and was a racists and an anti-Semite but his church wasn’t racist and anti-Semitic when Barack was attending. Or it was racists and anti-Semitic but Obama in all his wisdom never noticed.

The teflon-coated Obama had the racism and anti-semitism wash right over him. He has the strength of ten because his heart is pure.
/

242 Baier  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:18:25am

re: #240 DistantThunder

I’m watching live on Fox


Thanks, at work, so I only have the internets.

243 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:18:56am

re: #210 redc1c4

WaPo reporting shooting at US Holocaust Museum. Details to come.

244 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:19:10am

considering what wright preached to Obama in church for 20 years, the Prez probably would have been on a better spiritual track if he were a muslim.

/ maybe

246 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:19:17am

CNN says a DC cop was shot.

247 jcm  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:19:18am

re: #231 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hmmmmm. Guess we don’t know enough.

/hopefully, that can be appended with “yet”

Without the black boxes will never know.

248 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:19:25am

re: #207 sattv4u2

How can there be a museum for something that never happened?


[Link: creationmuseum.org…]

249 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:19:44am

So this would be the second terror shooting inside of a month…..last act of terror before that 911.

250 JustABill  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:19:48am

re: #230 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

IIRC the problem was they would literally ransack, taking what they wanted and leaving the rest as a scattered mess for the residents to clean up.

I could see how that would be annoying. Seems odd for them to go thru all the trouble of hitting a block all at once and getting out before anyone comes out to do something about it, rather than just being a little more carefull so no one would care what they did…

251 Yashmak  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:19:59am

Rev Wright is a real gem, ain’t he? He’s like a gift that keeps on giving.

Heck, gotta give him one thing…he sticks to his guns…even if they’re big anti-semitic racist guns.

252 Dave the.....  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:20:00am

Saw a Mavis Staples performance recently (on TV). She said (bragged?) that she goes to Wright’s church in Chicago. I’m a big fan of her’s, so won’t hold it against her. The Staples were big in the civil rights movement 40-50 years ago. Somtimes those who were so involved then can’t accept that we won and there is no need to keep fighting “the man”.

253 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:20:14am

re: #246 doppelganglander

CNN says a DC cop was shot.

SEcurity guard….at least

254 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:20:23am

re: #233 John Neverbend

“I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office.”

Why was he telling this to his baby daughter? Presumably, she’s the only person who actually listens to him (unlike Mr. Obama, who never listened to his sermons). What the Reverend doesn’t tell us is whether or not his baby had the good sense to throw up on him, after he’d finished telling her about “them Jews”.

Why was he saying “eight years” when @#$$ like this will hopefully contribute to Obama’s ouster after only 4.

255 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:20:27am

re: #246 doppelganglander

CNN says a DC cop was shot.

Fox says it was a security guard. Fox is staying with it; CNN thought the Chrysler deal was more important.

256 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:20:46am

re: #220 JustABill

Are they hurting anyone or anything? I’d put up a sign telling them not to do it just to protect myself in case one of them is hurt and let them have the trash…

well, it costs us tax payers money, since the city was relying on the revenue from the recycling to offset collection costs. and it *is* illegal. the problem is that no one will enforce the law.

257 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:20:50am

re: #200 Kosh’s Shadow

So what caused the sudden breakup and depressurization if it is unlikely that turbulence, lightening, or the pitot tubes were the problem?
No one is taking credit for terrorism, but maybe this was the trial run of a new system, and there will be coordinated attempts later? Such things have been planned, but the terrorists were always caught first.

There were two passengers on the flight with names the same as those of known radical muslims. The DGSE is trying to determine whether the ones on the plane were those jihadis, or just had the same names.

258 Abu Lahab  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:20:56am

And some talk about Obama being a Sekrit Mozlem ?!
Better worry about facts!

259 tradewind  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:21:06am

re: #37 Thanos
Because there’s no such thing as racism from an oppressed minority
/sarc/
Only the power structure…. i.e. white Europeans… can be tagged with ‘racist’.

260 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:21:09am

Get yer amazing Hope’n’change hair tonic folks!

261 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:21:11am

re: #255 doppelganglander

Fox says it was a security guard. Fox is staying with it; CNN thought the Chrysler deal was more important.

CNN does not recognize terror any longer. Man-made disaster….

262 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:21:15am
263 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:21:16am

re: #224 jcm

Top secret photo of the short lived Microsoft Boeing experiment.

They need the latest service pack.

/

264 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:21:49am

re: #250 JustABill

I could see how that would be annoying. Seems odd for them to go thru all the trouble of hitting a block all at once and getting out before anyone comes out to do something about it, rather than just being a little more carefull so no one would care what they did…

Classic raiding strategy. Hit hard in force, move fast and get out. If they went slow, people might report prowlers or trespassers and the police might patrol the area more.

265 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:21:50am

Weakness invites aggression.

266 HelloDare  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:21:56am

What kind of parents would seek Rev. Wright out to marry them and then baptize their children? Wright probably sprinkled some anti-Jewish juju in the Baptism water.

267 Summersong  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:22:03am

Early report on the D.C. shooting - 1 dead, 2 wounded.

268 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:22:13am

re: #233 John Neverbend

“I told my baby daughter, that he’ll talk to me in five years when he’s a lame duck, or in eight years when he’s out of office.”

Why was he telling this to his baby daughter? Presumably, she’s the only person who actually listens to him (unlike Mr. Obama, who never listened to his sermons). What the Reverend doesn’t tell us is whether or not his baby had the good sense to throw up on him, after he’d finished telling her about “them Jews”.

“Baby” may be an affectionate term still used for a grown woman. My African-American student’s dads will refer to their teenagers as ‘baby girl’, as in “My baby girl needs to understand that if she doesn’t pick up her grades we’re going to have some problems.”

This random bit of sociological information not really relevent to the racist rant at hand.

269 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:22:13am

re: #255 doppelganglander

Fox says it was a security guard. Fox is staying with it; CNN thought the Chrysler deal was more important.

3 shot according to Bloomberg.

270 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:22:37am

But Bush was fair game for worse:

APNewsBreak: News Corp. forms diversity council
Jun 10 11:13 AM US/Eastern
By JESSE WASHINGTON
AP National Writer

News Corp. is forming an external diversity council in response to pressure over a New York Post cartoon that critics said compared President Barack Obama to a dead chimpanzee.

The cartoon appeared in February. News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch published an apology in the Post, but civil rights and community organizations demanded further action.

271 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:23:25am

re: #268 SanFranciscoZionist

“Baby” may be an affectionate term still used for a grown woman. My African-American student’s dads will refer to their teenagers as ‘baby girl’, as in “My baby girl needs to understand that if she doesn’t pick up her grades we’re going to have some problems.”

This random bit of sociological information not really relevent to the racist rant at hand.

Pity, I was hoping it was because nobody else who understood English wanted to listen to his ranting.

272 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:23:34am

re: #269 John Neverbend

3 shot according to Bloomberg.

Yes, Fox now says 2-3 shot. They seem to have the perp, and his computer, in custody. Religious targets found on the computer. Guess which religion?

273 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:23:35am

Oh. Greetings from a hot and muggy NW Arkansas. While my chin is still lifted in disdain, I must confess that the glistening perspiration somewhat detracts from my general air of superiority.

But the HVAC folks are on the job and I am assured of relief within 36 hours.

274 Stuart Leviton  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:23:53am

Out from the woodwork crawls Rami Khouri (Source: Barry Rubin at GLORIA Center
[Link: www.gloria-center.org…]

275 KenJen  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:23:59am

re: #200 Kosh’s Shadow

A friend just got back from France. Every one she talked to believes it was terrorism. Said security at Charles De Gaulle was crazy. they went thru her bag three times and took everything out.

276 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:24:04am

re: #247 jcm

Without the black boxes will never know.

RACIST!
/

277 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:24:11am

re: #237 razorbacker

I demand an apology on behalf of the world’s swine.

Swine do not hate. Nor do they attempt to instill hate in other swine.

Go Hogs!

278 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:24:17am

Student convicted of D.C. terror plot

ATLANTA (AP) — A federal judge convicted a former Georgia Tech student Wednesday of plotting to aid a terrorist group by videotaping landmarks around Washington, D.C.

U.S. District Judge Bill Duffey found 24-year-old Syed Haris Ahmed guilty of one count of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorism in the U.S. and abroad.

279 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:24:42am

re: #269 John Neverbend

3 shot according to Bloomberg.

Now Bloomberg says “two people were hurt.” Nothing on Drudge yet. Just hit Reuters.

280 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:24:52am

re: #249 DistantThunder

So this would be the second terror shooting inside of a month…..last act of terror before that 911.

3rd

This one, the recruitment soldiers and Tiller. imho

281 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:24:55am

re: #232 Summersong

Washington, D.C. Two people shot, suspect in custody.


Oy gottenyu.

282 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:25:05am

re: #263 Ward Cleaver

They need the latest service pack.

/

Windows update works at 40-60K ft?

283 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:25:21am

re: #262 buzzsawmonkey

Fair enough.

And I believe I heard a year or so ago about a hero pet pig that saved its master by either dragging the master to safety or summoning help, or both—either of which puts Rev. Wright in the shade.

You must be talking about that heroic three-legged pig. Why three-legged, you ask? Simple; you don’t eat a hero-pig like that all at once.

284 Dave the.....  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:25:33am
re: #247 jcm

Without the black boxes will never know.

RACIST!
/

We should call them “boxes of color”.

285 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:25:33am

Hope ‘n Change Comes to a Cave in Pawkeestawn!

Ayman Zawahiri announced today that, under the Recruitment Stimulus Initiative Insha Allah (RSIIA), the terror network has created or saved 10,000 jihadist jobs (resulting in a concurrent creation or saving of 720,000 virgins!).

Zawahiri added that al Qaeda has appointed an Explosive Czar. It has also taken over al-Shabaab in Somalia — although Zawahiri insists this is a temporary take-over because, with two wars to run, the last thing CEO Osama bin Laden wants to be doing right now is running a failing cell in Somalia.

286 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:25:41am
287 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:26:05am

re: #284 Dave the…..

We should call them “boxes of color”.

African American Boxes?

288 RoughRider  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:26:09am

Get a load of this from the linked article

Perhaps without the Wright controversy, the issue of race might not have become a part of the 2008 Presidential campaign.

Oh I think the First SheDevil would have taken care of that all on her own.

289 shiplord kirel  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:26:24am

re: #248 looking closely

[Link: creationmuseum.org…]

Anyone else get this creepy feeling that we’re living in “The Marching Morons”?

290 Ben Hur  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:26:30am

Wright is off limits until Obama stops campaigning.

291 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:26:32am

re: #272 doppelganglander

Yes, Fox now says 2-3 shot. They seem to have the perp, and his computer, in custody. Religious targets found on the computer. Guess which religion?

da Juice?

292 Dianna  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:26:46am

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

Sunset Scavengers refers to the elderly Asians as ‘recycling pirates’. They even went through a period of telling us all to defend our trash from them. Right. I am going to burst out of my house at the crack of dawn and confront a lady old enough to be my grandmother, who speaks no English, and take back my Coke cans.

My dad calls them ‘privateers’.

I’m on their side. I don’t get paid for my bottles and cans, and I have no objection to them making money, provided they’re neat about it.

293 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:27:17am

re: #291 redc1c4

da Juice?

Jehovah’s Witnesses?

294 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:27:39am

re: #284 Dave the…..

NAACB

National Association for the Advancement of Colored Boxes

295 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:27:44am

re: #282 FurryOldGuyJeans

Windows update works at 40-60K ft?

do they w*rk at all?

296 Stuart Leviton  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:27:52am

Errata: Barry Rubin’s site is:
[Link: www.gloria-center.org…]

297 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:28:04am

re: #272 doppelganglander

Yes, Fox now says 2-3 shot. They seem to have the perp, and his computer, in custody. Religious targets found on the computer. Guess which religion?

Since when are the Amish allowed computers?

298 rightside  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:28:16am

On Rush,

What are the similarities between barack obama, and God? God doesn’t have a birth certificate either.

What are the differences between barack obama and God? God doesn’t think he’s barack obama.

Another difference between barack obama and God? God doesn’t get the press like barack.

299 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:28:21am

re: #293 John Neverbend

Jehovah’s Witnesses?

No, I’ve got it. It’s members of the Church of the Second Coming of the Great Prophet Zarquon.

300 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:28:37am

At least two people were shot at the US Holocaust Museum after a person walked in with a rifle and opened fire.

D.C. police spokeswoman Traci Hughes says a person walked into
the museum with a rifle and shot a guard. Hughes says the shooter
was also shot.

Hughes says the victims’ conditions were not known. Both were
being rushed to a hospital.

U.S. Park Police gave slightly different information, saying
three people had been shot.

301 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:28:47am

re: #267 Summersong

Early report on the D.C. shooting - 1 dead, 2 wounded.

You have to be a brave soul to be a security guard at the Holocaust Museum.

302 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:28:48am

re: #238 Kosh’s Shadow

Unless they’re testing a new system and have a large-scale attack planned if it works. If so, they have something that got through security; if they took credit, it might not get through security when their major attack is ready.

And simultaneous attacks against aircraft have been planned before, but the terrorists got caught first.

In this case, the flaw in that theory is that the plane crashed.

Ipso facto, this wasn’t solely a “test”. If it were a test to plan a larger scale attack later, the last thing a terrorist want to do is tip their hand by actually crashing the plane, thereby likely revealing the methodology and compromising future attacks.

This particular also couldn’t have been part of a large coordinated attack (unless every other part failed).

303 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:29:03am

re: #292 Dianna

I’m on their side. I don’t get paid for my bottles and cans, and I have no objection to them making money, provided they’re neat about it.

here in LA it’s lost revenue to the city, so they have to raise our rates. besides that, it’s good cover for casing the neighborhood and stealing from cars.

304 rightside  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:29:10am

re: #272 doppelganglander

The church of hooters™?

305 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:29:24am

re: #249 DistantThunder

So this would be the second terror shooting inside of a month…..last act of terror before that 911.

Seattle Jewish Federation. Not that this makes this any easier to handle.

DistantThunder I wanted to catch you on line—when we were talking some days ago about the Tiller murder, you wrote about a young woman who wanted an abortion because she wasn’t going to fit into her wedding dress, and I responded by saying I was glad the story had a happy ending. That was because I misread, and thought she didn’t have the abortion. Then I reread it, but I think you were gone by then—just wanted to let you know I’m not insane…

306 gearhead  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:29:34am

re: #286 buzzsawmonkey

“Dear Aggression,

I’m having a little get-together at my place next week, and was wondering if you’d care to come? The whole gang will be there, we’ll have a barbeque, a few drinks…and there’s a really special dessert.

I know it’s kind of short notice, and I’m really, really sorry. You’ve probably got other plans. But if you feel like stopping by, we’d all be glad to see you.

Sincerely,

Weakness”

You wouldn’t happen to be an event planner for the UN, would you?
/

307 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:29:34am

re: #282 FurryOldGuyJeans

Windows update works at 40-60K ft?

No, you have to download it on the ground, then sneaker-net it, using a USB key.

/

308 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:29:36am

re: #298 rightside

Who would win in a fight between Lemmy (from Motorhead) and God?

It’s a trick question, because Lemmy IS god!

309 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:29:50am

re: #300 lawhawk

At least two people were shot at the US Holocaust Museum after a person walked in with a rifle and opened fire.

good thing DC has gun control, eh?

310 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:29:56am

re: #289 shiplord kirel

Anyone else get this creepy feeling that we’re living in “The Marching Morons”?

Yes.

311 JustABill  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:30:17am

re: #293 John Neverbend

Jehovah’s Witnesses?

My money is on the Amish.

312 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:30:21am

re: #289 shiplord kirel

Anyone else get this creepy feeling that we’re living in “The Marching Morons”?

I’ve suggested we do something similar. All we have to do is convince some mullahs that the “furthest mosque” is really on Venus, and it is currently in possession of some infidel Venusians.
/yes, sarc, but based on the story mentioned.

313 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:30:22am

re: #300 lawhawk

At least two people were shot at the US Holocaust Museum after a person walked in with a rifle and opened fire.

One of Rev. Wright’s followers? Or sudden jihad syndrome?

314 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:30:26am

Terrorism Task Force from the FBI is on the scene.

315 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:30:26am

re: #286 buzzsawmonkey

“Dear Aggression,

I’m having a little get-together at my place next week, and was wondering if you’d care to come? The whole gang will be there, we’ll have a barbeque, a few drinks…and there’s a really special dessert.

I know it’s kind of short notice, and I’m really, really sorry. You’ve probably got other plans. But if you feel like stopping by, we’d all be glad to see you.

Sincerely,

Weakness”

Strip tease at 8pm sharp. Pretty irresisitable.

316 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:30:27am

Let me also point out that I can point out four jobs that I have actually created this week.

One salesman, who sold me the new heat pump.

And three techs who are currently removing the old unit in order to install the new unit.

And to boot, I have an excuse for hanging around LGF for a day or so, as the wife-woman is reluctant to have folks rummaging about her house without someone to watch them.

317 rightside  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:30:28am

re: #308 Mad Al-Jaffee

LOL! He may be, but he is one ugly God!

318 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:30:45am

The Collapsing Global Left

American voters are bombarded by their media with the message that conservatism is dead, because a Democrat got 52 percent of the presidential vote. Meanwhile, the collapse of the Left proceeds apace elsewhere in the world.
319 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:31:19am

re: #306 gearhead

You wouldn’t happen to be an event planner for the UN, would you?
/

nope: the State Department.

320 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:31:19am

re: #313 Ward Cleaver

One of Rev. Wright’s followers? Or sudden jihad syndrome?

And the difference would be….?

321 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:31:26am

re: #262 buzzsawmonkey

Fair enough.

And I believe I heard a year or so ago about a hero pet pig that saved its master by either dragging the master to safety or summoning help, or both—either of which puts Rev. Wright in the shade.

They’re very bright animals. A friend of mine breeds the little Vietnamese variety to sell as pets, and it’s amazing what they can learn to do.

322 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:31:33am

My mother volunteers at the Holocaust Museum. Fortuately, she’s on vacation and out of the country right now.

323 Kragar  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:31:39am

re: #308 Mad Al-Jaffee

Who would win in a fight between Lemmy (from Motorhead) and God?

It’s a trick question, because Lemmy IS god!

How do plan to get out of here?

Improvise. *YANK*

AIRHEADS FTW.

324 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:31:46am

re: #305 SanFranciscoZionist

Seattle Jewish Federation. Not that this makes this any easier to handle.

DistantThunder I wanted to catch you on line—when we were talking some days ago about the Tiller murder, you wrote about a young woman who wanted an abortion because she wasn’t going to fit into her wedding dress, and I responded by saying I was glad the story had a happy ending. That was because I misread, and thought she didn’t have the abortion. Then I reread it, but I think you were gone by then—just wanted to let you know I’m not insane…

No problem. The office staff and the doctor, we were all devastated, but she returned happy as can be. So happy for her, yes.

325 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:31:46am

re: #289 shiplord kirel

Anyone else get this creepy feeling that we’re living in “The Marching Morons”?

A world full of Democrats? Scary.

326 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:32:01am

re: #302 looking closely

In this case, the flaw in that theory is that the plane crashed.

Ipso facto, this wasn’t solely a “test”. If it were a test to plan a larger scale attack later, the last thing a terrorist want to do is tip their hand by actually crashing the plane, thereby likely revealing the methodology and compromising future attacks.

This particular also couldn’t have been part of a large coordinated attack (unless every other part failed).

I was thinking they wanted the plane to disappear, but over the ocean where there would be no evidence. Maybe they deliberately set it off while in turbulence.

327 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:32:17am

re: #300 lawhawk

At least two people were shot at the US Holocaust Museum after a person walked in with a rifle and opened fire.

How long before we hear calls for increased “assault weapon” gun control because of this incident?

328 Zimriel  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:32:20am

re: #298 rightside

On Rush,

What are the similarities between barack obama, and God? God doesn’t have a birth certificate either.

Please tell me that Rush isn’t going nirther.

329 JustABill  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:32:26am

re: #312 Kosh’s Shadow

I’ve suggested we do something similar. All we have to do is convince some mullahs that the “furthest mosque” is really on Venus, and it is currently in possession of some infidel Venusians.
/yes, sarc, but based on the story mentioned.

Isn’t that why Iran is testing all those rockets?

330 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:32:51am

re: #314 doppelganglander

Likely standard operating procedure because of the nature of the location of the incident. Besides, any situation that isn’t secured might require services of SWAT and similar services.

The Holocaust Museum is a large facility, and sweeping it may take some time.

331 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:33:08am

re: #309 redc1c4

good thing DC has gun control, eh?

I would bet good money this incident gets used to reimpose the draconian gun restrictions the SCOTUS removed earlier ruling on D.C. v. Heller.

332 rightside  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:33:11am

re: #328 Zimriel

His tongue is firmly in cheek. I think he is getting more and more emailed to him, as the list is growing.

333 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:33:18am

re: #300 lawhawk

At least two people were shot at the US Holocaust Museum after a person walked in with a rifle and opened fire.

Make you wonder, has anybody been spewing hatred of Jews or holocaust denial lately?

334 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:33:31am
335 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:33:32am

re: #313 Ward Cleaver

One of Rev. Wright’s followers? Or sudden jihad syndrome?

that’s a difference of semantics

336 avanti  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:33:42am

OK, poll haters, here’s some news that might cheer you up. Gallup has BHO at 59% approval today, and that’s a tie for his lowest so far.

Poll.

337 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:33:54am

re: #320 Kenneth

And the difference would be….?

Now, now. For all the apparent ranting in Wright’s church for twenty years, the occurrence of attacks on America by his parishioners is extremely low. In fact, so far, it has just been Barack and Michelle.

/

338 tradewind  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:34:05am

re: #268 SanFranciscoZionist
Nah, I bet he means a tot. Chicago Reverends are prone to a baby mama or two in the congregation.

339 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:34:09am

re: #327 looking closely

How long before we hear calls for increased “assault weapon” gun control because of this incident?

Could have been much worse if it hadn’t been for the other people with guns. Guns are intention multipliers…good intentions, very good. This was a good outcome considering the potential for much worse.

340 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:34:12am

re: #328 Zimriel

Please tell me that Rush isn’t going nirther.

Is called “joke”.

/

341 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:34:45am

re: #333 Kenneth

Above and beyond the usual background noise levels on such things?

342 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:34:49am

re: #336 avanti

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT! Meh.

Good or bad, I despise polls.

343 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:34:52am

re: #275 KenJen

A friend just got back from France. Every one she talked to believes it was terrorism. Said security at Charles De Gaulle was crazy. they went thru her bag three times and took everything out.

In general, I find that American airport security is still not as thorough as European. We need to get organized.

344 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:35:01am

re: #329 JustABill

Isn’t that why Iran is testing all those rockets?

I wish. Venus is way too hot for me.

345 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:35:15am

re: #328 Zimriel

Please tell me that Rush isn’t going nirther.

{sigh}
99.99999% of what rush says is for one thing and one thing only

TONGUE IN CHEEK, POKE THE OPPOSITION, ENTERTAINMENT. He KNOWS what the reaction will be from the left

“Rush is questioning weather Obama is a citizen. He’s calling Obama a liar. It’s hateful”

346 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:35:26am

re: #327 looking closely

How long before we hear calls for increased “assault weapon” gun control because of this incident?

how much closer do Class 3 firearms need to be regulated?

347 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:35:37am

What are the odds that the Holocaust Museum attacker is somehow connected to the recruiting office shooter? Damn, I hope not. I hope it’s a freelance crazy.

Museum is now secure, according to Fox.

348 Zimriel  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:35:45am

re: #340 OldLineTexan

Is called “joke”.

/

If someone tells racist jokes, I generally assume s/he’s a racist. If some conservative entertainer is telling nirther jokes I’ve got to assume that he’s a nirther.

349 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:35:57am

re: #26 MandyManners

Coupled with Kilgore’s photograph of Carter accepting that Islamic text from , this early morning’s warm and fuzzies are gone.

An upding for the post and 1000 downdings for Al-Jimmeh.

350 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:36:08am

re: #331 FurryOldGuyJeans

I would bet good money this incident gets used to reimpose the draconian gun restrictions the SCOTUS removed earlier ruling on D.C. v. Heller.

they’d have to overturn Heller first.

351 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:36:10am

re: #334 Iron Fist

Oh, no there have been other terror attacks in betwween. Think of John Mohammed, and Richard Reid. There was the ‘Splodeydope in Oklahoma City (no, when a Mohammedan blows himself up in public, I don’t buy that it is just a suicide, even when the misfire doesn’t take anyone else out), guy at the El Al counter in LA?, and of course the jihadi last week. And the sudden jihadi with his car in NC. I could go on. These are just the examples that are foremost in my mind. Jihadis are much more active terrorists than, say, the terrorists that kill abortion doctors.

So of course we see who gets all of the press.

John Mohammed was earlier than 911 wasn’t he? But not officially terrorism, not officially trained. We’ll see who this guy is representing.

352 neocon hippie  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:36:17am

I have a friend who works at the Holocaust Museum. I imagine he’s a bit shaken up.

Of course, he voted for Obama.

353 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:36:25am

re: #343 SanFranciscoZionist

In general, I find that American airport security is still not as thorough as European. We need to get organized.

Try the Israeli airport security.

354 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:36:57am

re: #326 Kosh’s Shadow

I was thinking they wanted the plane to disappear, but over the ocean where there would be no evidence. Maybe they deliberately set it off while in turbulence.


Why would they assume it would disappear?

The assumption by any terrorists with a clue (and that should include any capable of smuggling an explosive device on board a plane) would be/should be that it would be recovered, and that terrorism would be at the very least suspected, if not outright proven.

Again, it would not make sense for terrorists to destroy a commercial passenger plane under circumstances where said crash would appear to be an accident.

That sort of thing would entail 100% of the risk of engaging in terrorist activity, but none of the “reward” (of publicity, economic damage, and inciting “terror”).

355 neocon hippie  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:36:57am

re: #351 DistantThunder

John Muhammed and Lee Malvo were fall 2002.

356 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:37:01am

re: #341 lawhawk

I was being very sarcastic. The hate never stops.

357 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:37:28am

re: #350 redc1c4

they’d have to overturn Heller first.

Has such stopped the gun grabbers in the past? Heller is just a speed bump, not a full stop.

358 Baier  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:37:30am

re: #282 FurryOldGuyJeans

Windows update works at 40-60K ft?

Windows works?

359 rwdflynavy  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:37:31am

re: #79 soxfan4life

What makes you think he is not still pals with Wright, after all he could no more disown Jeremiah Wright than he could his own white racistgrandmother.

fixed it for ya!

360 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:37:41am

re: #348 Zimriel

If someone tells racist jokes, I generally assume s/he’s a racist. If some conservative entertainer is telling nirther jokes I’ve got to assume that he’s a nirther.

You are going to be making some bad assumptions, then.

361 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:38:17am

re: #346 redc1c4

how much closer do Class 3 firearms need to be regulated?

Until only government has guns.

362 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:38:17am

re: #354 looking closely

Why would they assume it would disappear?

The assumption by any terrorists with a clue (and that should include any capable of smuggling an explosive device on board a plane) would be/should be that it would be recovered, and that terrorism would be at the very least suspected, if not outright proven.

Again, it would not make sense for terrorists to destroy a commercial passenger plane under circumstances where said crash would appear to be an accident.

That sort of thing would entail 100% of the risk of engaging in terrorist activity, but none of the “reward” (of publicity, economic damage, and inciting “terror”).

We’ll see, and I hope you’re right.
BTW, the Lockerbie bomb wasn’t supposed to go off until the plane was over deep ocean, but the plane was delayed.

363 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:38:24am

re: #346 redc1c4

how much closer do Class 3 firearms need to be regulated?


“Assault weapon” is the made-up term. “Assault rifle” would fall under Class III.

364 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:38:33am

re: #312 Kosh’s Shadow

I’ve suggested we do something similar. All we have to do is convince some mullahs that the “furthest mosque” is really on Venus, and it is currently in possession of some infidel Venusians.
/yes, sarc, but based on the story mentioned.

There’s a story called “On Venus, Have We Got A Rabbi” in which the backstory is that aliens have landed on Earth, converted to Islam, decided that all human Muslims are heretics, and have kicked everyone, Jew, Muslim and Christian, out of Israel, which is why our hero, Milchik the TV repairman, is living in a burrow on Venus.

365 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:38:34am

re: #358 Baier

Windows works?

After a fashion, but it’s a pane.

366 Gella  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:38:45am

D.C. cops: At least 2 shot at Holocaust museum
A person reportedly walked into the museum with a gun and shot a guard

MSNBC Video
367 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:38:48am

re: #348 Zimriel

If someone tells racist jokes, I generally assume s/he’s a racist. If some conservative entertainer is telling nirther jokes I’ve got to assume that he’s a nirther.

I have nipples. Would you assume you can milk me? (I’m a male, btw)

368 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:38:58am

re: #356 Kenneth

Sorry, sarcasm scanner was down for repairs after getting overloaded on the story that Obama is looking to go with pay as you go as a sop to fiscal responsibility all while pushing a completely unaffordable health care package that will necessarily include massive tax hikes.

369 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:39:13am

My wife went grocery shopping yesterday for the first time in four months. She tells me that virtually every food item that she bought was up 10 to 20 cents over the last trip.

I’m sure glad that inflation is under control. I’d hate to think that that old bug-a-bear was on the prowl once again.

370 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:39:26am

re: #105 zombie
The trash is going to be attracting flies like crazy. Will that be against the lwo too?

371 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:39:28am

I’ve been in almost every museum on the mall with many of my children, and my grandmother. Imagine being in a museum with 6 kids and an elderly woman in a wheelchair. It isn’t easy to evacute a museum, and they channel the foot traffic. Are people allowed to have firearms in the smithsonian?

372 tradewind  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:39:33am

re: #354 looking closely
Some of the most effective terrorism is that which is suspected, but cannot be absolutely proven or attributed. The goal is to insert a free-floating anxiety in the public’s mind.

373 Lincolntf  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:39:35am

This guy could’ve been a disgruntled employee, a straight-up nutjob or any combination of other things. Way too early to conclude anyrthing.
But if this guy turns out to be another “prison-convert” or something similar, we (as a nation, including the press and leadership) are going to have to start treating domestic terror more seriously. How do we do that without onerously intruding on individual liberties? Oy.

374 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:39:39am

re: #363 OldLineTexan

“Assault weapon” is the made-up term. “Assault rifle” would fall under Class III.

hence my post…..

375 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:39:53am

re: #345 sattv4u2

{sigh}
99.99999% of what rush says is for one thing and one thing only

TONGUE IN CHEEK, POKE THE OPPOSITION, ENTERTAINMENT. He KNOWS what the reaction will be from the left

“Rush is questioning weather Obama is a citizen. He’s calling Obama a liar. It’s hateful”

It was either Rush or Howard Stern who years ago said something like; Half of the people who listen to my show are just waiting to get pissed at something I say. And I aim to please. (paraphrased)

376 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:39:56am

re: #324 DistantThunder

No problem. The office staff and the doctor, we were all devastated, but she returned happy as can be. So happy for her, yes.

Thanks. I just realized, later, that I hadn’t understood what I was reading, and I felt bad about it.

377 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:40:14am

re: #326 Kosh’s Shadow

I was thinking they wanted the plane to disappear, but over the ocean where there would be no evidence. Maybe they deliberately set it off while in turbulence.

Terrorists want evidence. A perceived accident negates the entire exercise.

378 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:40:17am

re: #331 FurryOldGuyJeans

I would bet good money this incident gets used to reimpose the draconian gun restrictions the SCOTUS removed earlier ruling on D.C. v. Heller.


Well, apparently DC effectively has reinstated them anyway. From what I understand, DC residents still don’t have an unqualified ability to possess loaded firearms within their homes.

Obviously no amount of DC gun ordinances can prevent a dedicated criminal from hauling a rifle around with them.

In terms of pure political opportunism, this is probably a better springboard for increased weapon-specific control against whatever category of gun was used in this incident.

379 Mad Mullah  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:40:27am

I still think that 78 percent of “them Jews” can’t possibly be all that bright, since they voted for a guy who spent 20 years of his life listening to the filthy crap spewing from the mouth of this piece of trash Reverend. They also voted for a guy who named one of his books after one of the dirtbag Rev’s sermons. They also voted for a guy who invoked his own white grandmother in defense of this racist piece of shit USA hating reverend. Not that it really matters much now, but I think that it would be pretty funny if the LA times released that tape that they’ve been hiding of Obama.

380 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:40:29am

re: #367 sattv4u2

I have nipples. Would you assume you can milk me? (I’m a male, btw)

the right woman could……. for everything you’re worth.

381 KenJen  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:40:39am

re: #369 razorbacker

My wife went grocery shopping yesterday for the first time in four months. She tells me that virtually every food item that she bought was up 10 to 20 cents over the last trip.

I’m sure glad that inflation is under control. I’d hate to think that that old bug-a-bear was on the prowl once again.

First time in four months?

382 mikalm  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:41:19am

re: #352 neocon hippie

I have a friend who works at the Holocaust Museum. I imagine he’s a bit shaken up.

Of course, he voted for Obama.

I also have a friend who used to work there. Maybe it’s the same guy? Initials A.K.?

383 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:41:30am

re: #368 lawhawk

Sorry, sarcasm scanner was down for repairs after getting overloaded on the story that Obama is looking to go with pay as you go as a sop to fiscal responsibility all while pushing a completely unaffordable health care package that will necessarily include massive tax hikes.

We pay, they go.

384 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:41:44am

re: #381 KenJen

First time in four months?

they’ve been on a hunger strike since Obama was sworn in!

THATS a dedicated conservative!

385 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:42:05am

re: #374 redc1c4

hence my post…..

Well, now I’m just confused. Y’all go on without me!

/

386 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:42:46am

re: #168 taxfreekiller

Just one sun spot , just one, please one …?
getting cold here earth bound …………………..

I think the Sun’s at solar minimum right now. Bummer - I haven’t seen any good sunspots for years now.

387 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:43:10am

re: #381 KenJen

First time in four months?

A fifty pound sack of beans, a barrel of flour, a barrel of salt pork, and a bucket of lard will last you for a while, pardner!

/

388 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:43:17am

re: #377 FurryOldGuyJeans

Terrorists want evidence. A perceived accident negates the entire exercise.

(OVER-thinking it somwhat) … unless this is something new, a tactical method being tried.

/*Occam’s Razor rolls its eyes*

389 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:43:47am

I’m expanding the garden.

390 KenJen  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:44:00am

re: #384 sattv4u2

they’ve been on a hunger strike since Obama was sworn in!

THATS a dedicated conservative!

Seriously? My dad quit shaving since O was sworn in. He looks like a hippie.

391 Clubsec  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:44:03am

That Rev. Wright is a real piece of work. Truly a horses ass.
Hope he keeps it up. Someday, maybe, the voters will ‘get it’.
Afterall, the Guvmint managed FMSM worked diligently to keep his fuming anti-semitic sermons very low and off the radar leading up to November ‘08. Were it not for the net his name would be unknown to anyone in AmeriKKKa even to this day. BTW, what church is ObamUH attending these days?

392 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:44:20am

re: #389 DistantThunder

I’m expanding the garden.

I’m raising squirrels in the attic.

393 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:44:37am

re: #387 OldLineTexan

A fifty pound sack of beans, a barrel of flour, a barrel of salt pork, and a bucket of lard will last you for a while, pardner!

/

all while the family is loaded onto the buckboard for a trip into town

Shane ,,, is that you !?!?!?

394 MJ  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:44:43am

Christian Science Monitor:

Terror link to Air France crash?

Two passengers’ names match those of Al Qaeda suspects, reports say. But experts caution that it’s too early to tell if the link is legitimate…

[Link: www.csmonitor.com…]

395 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:45:01am

re: #390 KenJen

Seriously? My dad quit shaving since O was sworn in. He looks like a hippie.

who does, your dad, or Obama?

396 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:45:48am

re: #392 OldLineTexan

I’m raising squirrels in the attic.

I’ll have one. medium rare please

397 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:46:03am

re: #391 Clubsec

That Rev. Wright is a real piece of work. Truly a horses ass.
Hope he keeps it up. Someday, maybe, the voters will ‘get it’.
Afterall, the Guvmint managed FMSM worked diligently to keep his fuming anti-semitic sermons very low and off the radar leading up to November ‘08. Were it not for the net his name would be unknown to anyone in AmeriKKKa even to this day. BTW, what church is ObamUH attending these days?

It won’t work. People who don’t want to see won’t see. people who don’t want to hear, won’t hear. I’ve been down this road with girlfriends and bad men. It’s a chemical infatuation thing. It’s love-sickness.

398 neocon hippie  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:46:18am

re: #382 mikalm

Nope, different guy.

399 CommonCents  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:46:23am

re: #32 jcm

The Marxist Roots of Black Liberation Theology

If BLT is about any [non-white] group suffering from oppression of the white man, then wouldn’t “them Jews” also be considered benefactors of the Black Liberation Theology?

400 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:46:25am

re: #389 DistantThunder

I’m expanding the garden.

That’s been a project of mine too. Prior owners didn’t do much and had a couple of overgrown and sick rhododendrons in the backyard. Ripped those out, and an evergreen, and put in a mix of azaleas, new rhodos, and other shade tolerant perennials. Vast improvement, but not nearly done as I have a side yard that needs attention.

401 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:46:25am
402 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:46:29am

re: #392 OldLineTexan

I’m raising squirrels in the attic.

I suppose that’s better than bats in your belfry. Sort of.

403 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:46:36am

re: #364 SanFranciscoZionist

There’s a story called “On Venus, Have We Got A Rabbi” in which the backstory is that aliens have landed on Earth, converted to Islam, decided that all human Muslims are heretics, and have kicked everyone, Jew, Muslim and Christian, out of Israel, which is why our hero, Milchik the TV repairman, is living in a burrow on Venus.

Sounds familiar. I think I read it.
Then there’s the one where they’re trying to put together a minyan at a hotel that caters to aliens as well as humans, and they have to find 10 Jews that can breathe the same atmosphere. The story remarked that you don’t want to know what some of the aliens had circumcised.

404 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:46:42am

re: #392 OldLineTexan

I’m raising squirrels in the attic.

Electrical fire in 5 … 4 … 3 …

405 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:47:02am

re: #396 sattv4u2

I’ll have one. medium rare please

If I plug up the hole they made while they’re in there, they’ll be well-done in a day.

/I am so pissed. Now I have to go up there in the blazing noon and try to patch it up enough to keep ‘em out.

406 Winslow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:47:08am

re: #77 zombie

Them Jews them Jews them sly Jews

Them Jews them Jews them sly Jews

Them Jews them Jews them sly Jews

Now hear the word of the Lord:

The sly Jew’s connected to the rich Jew
The rich Jew’s connected to the smart Jew
The smart Jew’s connected to the Pres’dent
Now hear the word of the Lord…

Dem Bones:

Youtube Video
407 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:47:38am

re: #396 sattv4u2

I’ll have one. medium rare please

You’re in deep doodoo if Dianna’s here.

408 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:47:44am

re: #399 CommonCents

If BLT is about any [non-white] group suffering from oppression of the white man, then wouldn’t “them Jews” also be considered benefactors of the Black Liberation Theology?

No. Jews are white!

///

409 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:47:59am

re: #388 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The weather and the storms in that section of the Atlantic are simply astonishing…

My guess? Lighting strike and extremely strong wind buffet coupled with known-problematic wind speed sensors causes multiple failures leading to torsional twist and skin tear.

Very quick.

410 Stuart Leviton  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:48:06am

re: #327 looking closely

How long before we hear calls for increased “assault weapon” gun control because of this incident?

It’s because of the settlements!

411 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:48:11am

re: #404 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Electrical fire in 5 … 4 … 3 …

Just found the hole this am. Saw scraps of insulation over the weekend; it was a WTF? moment, then I started looking.

412 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:48:11am

re: #400 lawhawk

That’s been a project of mine too. Prior owners didn’t do much and had a couple of overgrown and sick rhododendrons in the backyard. Ripped those out, and an evergreen, and put in a mix of azaleas, new rhodos, and other shade tolerant perennials. Vast improvement, but not nearly done as I have a side yard that needs attention.

It’s therapeutic too. I actually put in watermelon, and 8 tomato plants a couple of pepper plants, and some herbs, but I need more. We have deer come right into the yard, so I planted them in the front right next to the house.

413 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:48:22am

re: #406 Winslow

Dem Bones:



Yes, I thought of this, and I’m pleased to see another Prisoner fan (if you are one).

414 gearhead  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:48:33am

re: #396 sattv4u2

I’ll have one. medium rare please

You people are making me hungry.

‘Possum nuggets, anyone? My treat.

415 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:48:37am

re: #346 redc1c4

how much closer do Class 3 firearms need to be regulated?


I get it, (and its why I used the “scare quotes” around the term “assault rifle”).

If I shoot someone with my single-shot .22, isn’t that an “assault rifle”?

A bit more seriously, I don’t know what kind of gun was used in this incident other than that it was a “rifle”. That could be anything from a single-shot .22 to a bolt-action hunting gun, to a military-style semi-automatic rifle. We’ll probably find out eventually.

The “answer” to your question is that the gun grabbers want to progressively eliminate all private ownership of weapons.

Even though more Americans are killed each year by plastic buckets and baseball bats, these people would eliminate private ownership of full-auto weapons in a heartbeat if it were politically expedient to do so.

416 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:48:51am

re: #411 OldLineTexan

Just found the hole this am. Saw scraps of insulation over the weekend; it was a WTF? moment, then I started looking.

Best wishes!

417 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:49:02am

re: #284 Dave the…..

We should call them “boxes of color”.

Or ‘melanin-enhanced’ boxes.

418 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:49:04am

re: #377 FurryOldGuyJeans

Terrorists want evidence. A perceived accident negates the entire exercise.

A week later, they blow up 20 planes in mid-air, and then claim they did it.
One was just the test run.
As I’ve said, we’ll see, and I hope I’m wrong.

419 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:49:26am

re: #403 Kosh’s Shadow

Sounds familiar. I think I read it.
Then there’s the one where they’re trying to put together a minyan at a hotel that caters to aliens as well as humans, and they have to find 10 Jews that can breathe the same atmosphere. The story remarked that you don’t want to know what some of the aliens had circumcised.

Jack Dann and Isaac Asimov put together a couple of collections of Jewish-themed specfic. I don’t recall the one you reference—sounds good. Do you recall where it was published.

420 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:49:44am

re: #418 Kosh’s Shadow

A week later, they blow up 20 planes in mid-air, and then claim they did it.
One was just the test run.
As I’ve said, we’ll see, and I hope I’m wrong.

Great….I’m flying to Dallas on Friday…..taking my sock of quarters…..

421 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:49:52am

re: #405 OldLineTexan

If I plug up the hole they made while they’re in there, they’ll be well-done in a day.

/I am so pissed. Now I have to go up there in the blazing noon and try to patch it up enough to keep ‘em out.

Ain’t gonna happen. They can chew through anything you can patch almost as quick as you put it up. Metal is the only thing that stops them cold.

422 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:50:34am

re: #406 Winslow

Dem Bones:



Is this what went on in Rev. Wright’s church on a Sunday morning?

423 MJ  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:50:47am

BBC has the story now:

Shooting at US Holocaust museum

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

The BBC hasn’t blamed Israel yet but it’s early in the story.

424 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:50:50am

re: #412 DistantThunder

It’s therapeutic too. I actually put in watermelon, and 8 tomato plants a couple of pepper plants, and some herbs, but I need more. We have deer come right into the yard, so I planted them in the front right next to the house.

/And if you’re quick (and or lucky) maybe you can harvest some deer too.

425 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:51:13am

re: #409 experiencedtraveller

The weather and the storms in that section of the Atlantic are simply astonishing…

My guess? Lighting strike and extremely strong wind buffet coupled with known-problematic wind speed sensors causes multiple failures leading to torsional twist and skin tear.

Very quick.

Four seconds. And see my earlier post about what some people are saying about turbulence and lightening strike.
But then, no one thought the vertical stabilizer could break off that easily, either.

426 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:51:23am

re: #421 JohnnyReb

Ain’t gonna happen. They can chew through anything you can patch almost as quick as you put it up. Metal is the only thing that stops them cold.

Yeah, that’s what I have.

The little jerks got in through Hardiplank, but it’s a tucked corner under the eaves and it must’ve opened up a little over ten years. But they have a nice hole in it now.

427 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:52:08am

re: #419 SanFranciscoZionist

Jack Dann and Isaac Asimov put together a couple of collections of Jewish-themed specfic. I don’t recall the one you reference—sounds good. Do you recall where it was published.

No, that one I read years ago.
There are a couple of volumes of “Wandering Stars”, though. I have one, but no time to read it.

428 realwest  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:52:10am

Hey y’all - back from Oncologist’s office, doesn’t think my new pain symptoms are from cancer, so he’s testing something else out.
Of course, as soon as I walked into his office the pain went away!

429 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:52:50am

Black liberation theology, like Afro-centric history, is purely a form of racist condescension, since idiots like Wright and Farrakhan would be laughed right out of the public arena if patronizing liberals didn’t give them a special set of rules.

430 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:52:52am

re: #428 realwest

Glad the docs don’t think it’s a recurrence. Here’s hoping that it’s nothing serious.

431 CommonCents  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:03am

re: #410 Stuart Leviton

It’s because of the settlements!

“Right wing extremist” description soon to follow….
/

432 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:10am

re: #421 JohnnyReb

Ain’t gonna happen. They can chew through anything you can patch almost as quick as you put it up. Metal is the only thing that stops them cold.

You can toss a slightly underfed cat up in the attic.

That can’t hurt.

433 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:20am

re: #428 realwest

Hey y’all - back from Oncologist’s office, doesn’t think my new pain symptoms are from cancer, so he’s testing something else out.
Of course, as soon as I walked into his office the pain went away!

Wow, that’s a good doctor!

/

434 sngnsgt  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:25am

Check out the picture of Barry in the Oval Office with his feet up on the desk on Drudge.

435 KenJen  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:31am

re: #392 OldLineTexan

I’m raising squirrels in the attic.

My ex-boyfriend had squirrels in his attic. One morning before he was leaving on a trip he went outside with a silencer on his gun and killed two of the critters. He threw them in the kitchen garbage and didn’t tell me. I took him to the airport and when I got home the two labs had drug them out of the garbage and put them in the living room. Two bloody, stiff carcases on the floor. Scared the sh*t out of me. That’s part of the reason he’s my ex-boyfriend.

436 realwest  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:33am

Oh and btw, I put a couple of links in the spin-off links to this thread which I think buttress my arguments on Obama and socialism/Chrysler bond denial by SCOTUS on today’s DT!

437 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:35am

re: #428 realwest

Of course, as soon as I walked into his office the pain went away!

and as soon as you walked in here ours started

////////////////////////////////

sorry, but you made that WAYYY to easy !

Luv Ya Man!

438 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:41am

re: #433 wrenchwench

Wow, that’s a good doctor!

/

Walletectomy. Very common.

439 midwestgak  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:49am

re: #428 realwest

{real}

440 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:50am

re: #428 realwest

Hey y’all - back from Oncologist’s office, doesn’t think my new pain symptoms are from cancer, so he’s testing something else out.
Of course, as soon as I walked into his office the pain went away!

Isn’t that always the way? Glad it’s not the cancer - let’s hope it’s nothing serious.

441 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:53am

re: #421 JohnnyReb

Ain’t gonna happen. They can chew through anything you can patch almost as quick as you put it up. Metal is the only thing that stops them cold.

or a .22 caliber enema

442 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:53:54am

re: #403 Kosh’s Shadow

Sounds familiar. I think I read it.
Then there’s the one where they’re trying to put together a minyan at a hotel that caters to aliens as well as humans, and they have to find 10 Jews that can breathe the same atmosphere. The story remarked that you don’t want to know what some of the aliens had circumcised.

Jews in Space

Youtube Video
443 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:54:00am

re: #421 JohnnyReb

Ain’t gonna happen. They can chew through anything you can patch almost as quick as you put it up. Metal is the only thing that stops them cold.

I once had to fly a hamster from Massachusetts to California. They won’t let you take a rodent into the cabin, which makes sense, (they chew wires, along with everything else) but they also made me take her out of her metal-bar cage and put her in a plastic kitten carrier.

When I got her back in CA, there was an almost-escape-sized expansion to one of the airholes (and she’d rubbed her nose raw working on it). I mentioned to the baggage people that if we’d had an hour layover anywhere on the way, that plane would have been grounded until it had been completely dismantled and reassembled.

444 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:54:02am

re: #420 DistantThunder

Great….I’m flying to Dallas on Friday…..taking my sock of quarters…..

I think they want to get international flights; that was what was planned the two times I know of. One was before 9/11, and that was broken by a terrorist getting caught trying to cook up explosives in his kitchen in the Philippines; it caught fire and he got caught.

445 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:54:07am

re: #419 SanFranciscoZionist
William Tenn wrote that story. I haven’t read anything by him, just found that out from a quick search.

[Link: www.nesfa.org…]

446 rightside  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:54:09am

re: #428 realwest

Did you check your wallet?

447 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:54:11am

re: #435 KenJen

NEVER marry a man that wastes meat like that.

/

448 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:54:11am

re: #434 sngnsgt

Check out the picture of Barry in the Oval Office with his feet up on the desk on Drudge.

much ado about nothing, imho

449 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:54:12am

re: #426 OldLineTexan

Yeah, that’s what I have.

The little jerks got in through Hardiplank, but it’s a tucked corner under the eaves and it must’ve opened up a little over ten years. But they have a nice hole in it now.

Get a Havahart trap. We were talking about this on another thread, but over the past couple of weeks hubby has ‘relocated’ about a dozen of the buggers.

450 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:54:31am

WE had a fericious storm blow through yesterday. The sky was almost black at 9am. Everything was completely still, then massive thunder and lightening. The kids at school thought it was fun. I always remember that on the first day we moved in our neighbor introduced himself and told us how lightening had just hit the electrical wiring going to his well pump, and fried the whole pump - we all have ground wells.

451 realwest  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:54:48am

re: #430 lawhawk
Thanks lawhawk - doesn’t think it’s anything serious, but since it does cause pain, he’s treating it seriously, which is good for me!

452 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:54:54am

re: #426 OldLineTexan

Yeah, that’s what I have.

The little jerks got in through Hardiplank, but it’s a tucked corner under the eaves and it must’ve opened up a little over ten years. But they have a nice hole in it now.

Sounds as bad as the woodpecker who has adopted my cedar shingle house as his own. I have tried everything short of WMD on him. Once I managed to sneak up on him and sprayed him with pepper spray. That worked for about a week. I have tried everything to patch the holes but he just keeps opening them back up. I don’t want to shoot him as all species of woodpeckers are federally protected and a $500 fine if you get caught. And my one neighbor would narc on me.

453 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:55:31am

re: #449 VioletTiger

Thanks, I will look into it.

454 JohnAdams  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:55:42am

Damn, come to think of it, “them Jews” is taking over all the bakeries around here too!

455 Chicken Kiev  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:55:57am

Shooting just now in the DC Holocaust Museum. Breaking news.

456 EllisGee  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:56:07am

I agree with the good reverend, “Ethnic cleansing of the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity…” So why does he support the people who are doing it?

457 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:56:16am

re: #434 sngnsgt

Check out the picture of Barry in the Oval Office with his feet up on the desk on Drudge.

Jewish people are offended. Do you not think that the man who mentioned HIllary and McCain while scratching his face with his middle finger had any idea of the impact of this picture? I’ve never seen this particular foot angle before.

458 realwest  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:56:44am

re: #437 sattv4u2
“Luv Ya Man!”
Hey, I thought you said you weren’t gonna mention that out here! Don’t bother sending any more flowers.
As for your pain starting when I walked in here, well hell, I do believe in sharing!
/

459 Tumulus11  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:56:54am

. O/T

‘US Holocaust museum gunman fired on and wounded one security officer.
Two other security officers returned fire, wounding the gunman. The wounded security officer and the wounded gunman have both been evacuated to George Washington University Hospital.’
// US Park Police.

460 J.D.  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:56:54am

re: #428 {realwest}

Hey y’all - back from Oncologist’s office, doesn’t think my new pain symptoms are from cancer, so he’s testing something else out.
Of course, as soon as I walked into his office the pain went away!

Yea!
Hope it turns out to be no big deal.
*fingers crossed*

461 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:56:55am

re: #452 JohnnyReb

Sounds as bad as the woodpecker who has adopted my cedar shingle house as his own. I have tried everything short of WMD on him.

He’s there because he’s attracted to some type of bug that has made a home out of your wood. Spray the wood with some VERY good / strong bug juice. It won’t hurt the wood but WILL get rid of whatever the woodpecker is after

462 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:57:24am

re: #445 Mad Al-Jaffee

William Tenn wrote that story. I haven’t read anything by him, just found that out from a quick search.

[Link: www.nesfa.org…]

Nesfa is still around. I was a member back in the 1970’s and went to several of their Boskone cons, when they were at the Sheraton Boston.
The hotel had an all you can eat Chinese buffet which got cleaned out by all the conventioneers. I think they stopped that whenever Boskone was run.

463 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:57:41am

re: #455 Chicken Kiev

Shooting just now in the DC Holocaust Museum. Breaking news.

scroll back. Lizard army has been on it for 30 minutes at least now

464 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:57:43am

If the shooting at the Holocaust Museum in D.C. is related to the one at the recruiting station, is there another target ahead?

465 realwest  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:58:34am

re: #455 Chicken Kiev
Hey Chicken Kiev - I believe NY Nana has some more information on that in the spin-off links for this thread!

466 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:58:35am
467 HelloDare  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:58:41am

re: #399 CommonCents

You can see videos of James Cone, the father of BLT here.

1000sundays.com

Welcome to 1000 Sundays, a site devoted to the examination of what the Democratic Candidate for President of the United States of America believes. At 1000 Sundays, we believe that all men are free to believe as they will. However, we also believe that a citizen has the right to examine those beliefs so that they might be honestly and accurately informed about the motivations of the person seeking their vote. Barack Obama has made many public statements about his faith that can be freely seen by voters, but like any politician, it is possible that there is more to Senator Obama’s beliefs than can be easily determined by his carefully guarded public declarations. On this page, we will attempt to peer more deeply into the question of Mr. Obama’s beliefs, and we will begin that exploration by looking into the church and teacher that the senator personally states “introduced” him to his Christian faith. Mr. Obama sought this man’s teaching for twenty years. That’s 1000 Sundays. This is 1000Sundays.com.

468 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:58:45am

re: #443 SanFranciscoZionist

I once had to fly a hamster from Massachusetts to California. They won’t let you take a rodent into the cabin, which makes sense, (they chew wires, along with everything else) but they also made me take her out of her metal-bar cage and put her in a plastic kitten carrier.

When I got her back in CA, there was an almost-escape-sized expansion to one of the airholes (and she’d rubbed her nose raw working on it). I mentioned to the baggage people that if we’d had an hour layover anywhere on the way, that plane would have been grounded until it had been completely dismantled and reassembled.

Motherfucking hamster on a plane!

469 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:58:45am

re: #429 Shiplord Kirel

Black liberation theology, like Afro-centric history, is purely a form of racist condescension, since idiots like Wright and Farrakhan would be laughed right out of the public arena if patronizing liberals didn’t give them a special set of rules.

I learned from my black professor that the Eqyptians were black, and that Jesus was black. No one said a thing, as I was one of only 2 white people, I thought it best to reserve my opinions.

470 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:59:07am

re: #452 JohnnyReb

Sounds as bad as the woodpecker who has adopted my cedar shingle house as his own. I have tried everything short of WMD on him. Once I managed to sneak up on him and sprayed him with pepper spray. That worked for about a week. I have tried everything to patch the holes but he just keeps opening them back up. I don’t want to shoot him as all species of woodpeckers are federally protected and a $500 fine if you get caught. And my one neighbor would narc on me.


$500 eh…
/How much is your house worth?

Some interesting ideas here:
[Link: cecalaveras.ucdavis.edu…]

471 sngnsgt  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:59:08am

re: #448 sattv4u2

much ado about nothing, imho

Just shows me he has no respect for the office. I for one am truly embarrassed at what he and Dems are going to do to this country.

472 JustABill  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:59:28am

re: #421 JohnnyReb

Ain’t gonna happen. They can chew through anything you can patch almost as quick as you put it up. Metal is the only thing that stops them cold.

I had a mouse problem in my last apartment. Patched several holes with steel wool and duct tape. It did the trick wonderfully. Not sure how well it would work with larger vermin…

473 tradewind  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:59:57am

re: #444 Kosh’s Shadow
One of the test runs resulted in a px being sucked out
of the aircraft’s window after a small explosion, but the plane landed safely in Japan…
The other plot was going to involve twelve trans pacific flights, all American airlines, (DAL, NWA, UA, AA, TWA) and they were to be blown up midair over the ocean in one day. Pretty cool how that Filipino policewoman caught the guy , who forgot that adding water to his explosive mix would start a fire….

474 rightside  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:59:59am

re: #457 DistantThunder

Show’s how hip he is.

/no respect for the physical office either.

475 theheat  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:00:08am

What a freakin’ racist puke. Still. Odd that both Wright and Limbaugh are on the same page predicting Obama’s demise. Wow, didn’t see that one coming.

After listening to this lunatic 20 years, Obama threw him under the bus, and he’s been left to seethe and spew hate without missing a beat. Whether Obama’s motivations were purely out of self-preservation (ding ding ding) or something more noble (not), the fact is he distanced himself from Wright’s hatefest.

Can all the raving lunatic preachers also be thrown under the bus, so our politicans don’t pander to them any more? I think this is the bigger question.

Pretty please, with sugar on top.

476 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:00:11am

re: #464 MandyManners

If the shooting at the Holocaust Museum in D.C. is related to the one at the recruiting station, is there another target ahead?

Either that or a big peace rally.

477 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:00:11am

re: #464 MandyManners

If the shooting at the Holocaust Museum in D.C. is related to the one at the recruiting station, is there another target ahead?

lets not jump to conclusions

one was targeting military ( and looks to be “jihad’ related)
the other did not, although you could extrapolate jihad into it

478 Zimriel  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:00:18am

re: #457 DistantThunder

Jewish people are offended. Do you not think that the man who mentioned HIllary and McCain while scratching his face with his middle finger had any idea of the impact of this picture? I’ve never seen this particular foot angle before.

I’m not sure he was trying to offend the Jews but he may have been sending a message to the Arabs…

…which is worse.

479 sffilk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:00:34am

As a Jew, I didn’t realize we held such power over the president!

480 Tumulus11  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:00:41am

O/T

. An eyewitness said that the wounded security officer was down on the floor bleeding profusely. The witness said that the security officer was ‘not in good shape.’
// CNN

481 opnion  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:00:52am

re: #428 realwest

Hey y’all - back from Oncologist’s office, doesn’t think my new pain symptoms are from cancer, so he’s testing something else out.
Of course, as soon as I walked into his office the pain went away!

Great news!

482 JohnAdams  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:00:54am

re: #471 sngnsgt

Just shows me he has no respect for the office. I for one am truly embarrassed at what he and Dems are going to do to this country.

I went by “embarrassed” in a blur about 3 months ago.

483 Baier  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:01:17am

re: #479 sffilk

As a Jew, I didn’t realize we held such power over the president!

You need to sign up for the newsletter

484 realwest  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:01:19am

And thank you ALL who were pleased to hear it’s not the cancer! I do seriously appreciate your concern.
Thank you.

485 rightside  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:01:31am

re: #468 MandyManners

I had to LOL

486 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:01:34am

re: #470 looking closely

$500 eh…
/How much is your house worth?

Some interesting ideas here:
[Link: cecalaveras.ucdavis.edu…]

Mr DT says he’s probably going after larvae deposited by carpenter bees. REmove the food source by spraying the shingles with a pesticide.

487 shug  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:01:35am

The Jews controlling the secret Muslim President won’t let his secret Muslim preacher talk to him.

yeah, that’s logical
/

488 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:01:59am

re: #368 lawhawk

Sorry, sarcasm scanner was down for repairs after getting overloaded on the story that Obama is looking to go with pay as you go as a sop to fiscal responsibility all while pushing a completely unaffordable health care package that will necessarily include massive tax hikes.

At least until 2012, it’s a safe assumption that most of my posts will come heavily freighted with sarcasm.

489 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:02:02am

re: #478 Zimriel

I’m not sure he was trying to offend the Jews but he may have been sending a message to the Arabs…

…which is worse.

I think it was a message to the Arabs.

490 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:02:51am

re: #479 sffilk

As a Jew, I didn’t realize we held such power over the president!

Yeah, well tell him to smarten up with the Arabs, ok?

491 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:03:03am

re: #471 sngnsgt

Just shows me he has no respect for the office. I for one am truly embarrassed at what he and Dems are going to do to this country.

If you don’t think EVERY President of each party has loosened his tie in there, took off his shoes under the desk, loosened his belt buckle after a meal, unbuttoned the top of his shirt, farted or burped while alone or with his closest staff in there ( no visiting dignitaries) you are bvery naive

again ,, much ado about N O T H I N G

492 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:03:03am

re: #473 tradewind

One of the test runs resulted in a px being sucked out
of the aircraft’s window after a small explosion, but the plane landed safely in Japan…
The other plot was going to involve twelve trans pacific flights, all American airlines, (DAL, NWA, UA, AA, TWA) and they were to be blown up midair over the ocean in one day. Pretty cool how that Filipino policewoman caught the guy , who forgot that adding water to his explosive mix would start a fire….

Great. I’m flying American on Friday.

493 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:03:03am

re: #392 OldLineTexan

I’m raising squirrels in the attic.

Guess where I’m not going for a BBQ this weekend.

494 FrogMarch  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:03:07am

re: #47 soxfan4life

Didn’t you get the memo, 0bama himself is a god. At least that is what Newsweek said. Still find it unbelievable how so many people bought the load of BS he peddled on that. In 20 years he never heard any of Wrights preachings of hate.

I got the memo. tossed it in the trash.
and if we dare mock the god, David Letterman will have rape fantasies about your children. funny stuff.

495 sngnsgt  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:03:07am

re: #482 JohnAdams

Agreed. I think it’s sad he was even nominated.

496 tradewind  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:03:22am

re: #464 MandyManners

The guy who shot the recruiting station up has made the statement in court that he is not guilty because it ’ wasn’t personal ‘…. but he would do it again in a heartbeat and would like to kill the entire US military for allah.
So now we have the ’ not personal, it’s just bidness’ defense…..

497 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:03:45am

re: #476 DistantThunder

Either that or a big peace rally.

Well, it’d be the biggest FAIL in a while.

498 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:03:51am

re: #484 realwest

Thank G-d! Just lay off the disco-dancing for a while, then.

499 Zimriel  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:03:57am

re: #469 DistantThunder

I learned from my black professor that the Eqyptians were black, and that Jesus was black. No one said a thing, as I was one of only 2 white people, I thought it best to reserve my opinions.

The best Egyptian pharaohs were black. I refer you to the 25th Dynasty.

They didn’t leave pyramids, but they did save the Jews from the extermination meted out to the rest of Israel.

I wish Afrocentrists would teach that history.

500 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:04:00am

re: #474 rightside

Show’s how hip he is.

/no respect for the physical office either.

he’s probably using the top left draw on the desk as an ashtray…lol

501 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:04:20am

re: #477 sattv4u2

lets not jump to conclusions

one was targeting military ( and looks to be “jihad’ related)
the other did not, although you could extrapolate jihad into it

One anti-American, the other anti-Jewish. Hmmmm….

502 tradewind  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:04:21am

re: #492 DistantThunder

The dangerous part of your trip is the one to the airport….
not to worry.

503 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:04:24am

Our President’s spiritual advisor, ladies and gentlemen! Isn’t he great? Let’s give him a big round of applause!

//

504 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:04:38am

re: #477 sattv4u2

lets not jump to conclusions

one was targeting military ( and looks to be “jihad’ related)
the other did not, although you could extrapolate jihad into it

Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?

505 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:04:40am

re: #475 theheat

After listening to this lunatic 20 years, Obama threw him under the bus, and he’s been left to seethe and spew hate without missing a beat.

I just noticed that an anagram of Jeremiah Wright is “Hi, grim Jew hater.” I wonder if this is significant.

506 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:04:56am

re: #496 tradewind

I think his lawyer will have a better chance using the Chewbacca Defense, or the Steve Martin “I forgot!” defense.

507 J.D.  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:04:57am

re: #500 Spider Mensch

he’s probably using the top left draw on the desk as an ashtray…lol

Thanks a lot.
I had a vision of him smoking in the Oval Office and it made me want to upchuck.

508 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:05:16am

re: #485 rightside

I had to LOL

Just srpeading sunshine today.

509 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:05:26am

re: #480 Tumulus11

O/T

. An eyewitness said that the wounded security officer was down on the floor bleeding profusely. The witness said that the security officer was ‘not in good shape.’
// CNN


That’s not exactly a proper medical assessment, but if this guard were struck anywhere in the torso with a rifle, that’s a critical injury.

Does anyone think this shooting incident is going to be classified by the media as “terrorism”?

510 JohnAdams  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:05:45am

re: #494 FrogMarch

I got the memo. tossed it in the trash.
and if we dare mock the god, David Letterman will have rape fantasies about your children. funny stuff.

True test of character comes when somebody can achieve tremendous success without becoming sanctimonious. Letterman hasn’t been funny since he stopped wearing white shoes.

511 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:05:51am

re: #464 MandyManners

If the shooting at the Holocaust Museum in D.C. is related to the one at the recruiting station, is there another target ahead?

Holy Christmas. I hadn’t heard about this.

512 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:06:21am

re: #496 tradewind

The guy who shot the recruiting station up has made the statement in court that he is not guilty because it ’ wasn’t personal ‘…. but he would do it again in a heartbeat and would like to kill the entire US military for allah.
So now we have the ’ not personal, it’s just bidness’ defense…..

I saw on television this morning that he said it was justified by Islam.

513 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:06:29am

re: #461 sattv4u2

Sounds as bad as the woodpecker who has adopted my cedar shingle house as his own. I have tried everything short of WMD on him.

He’s there because he’s attracted to some type of bug that has made a home out of your wood. Spray the wood with some VERY good / strong bug juice. It won’t hurt the wood but WILL get rid of whatever the woodpecker is after


It’s not bugs, it is all cedar shingles. The county guy said it is a mating thing. Apparently he likes the sound my shingles make while he tries to get a girlfriend. That call is how I found out you had better not shoot it.

514 brookly red  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:07:00am

re: #509 looking closely

That’s not exactly a proper medical assessment, but if this guard were struck anywhere in the torso with a rifle, that’s a critical injury.

Does anyone think this shooting incident is going to be classified by the media as “terrorism”?

depends if the details fit their agenda…

515 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:07:01am

re: #511 Occasional Reader

Holy Christmas. I hadn’t heard about this.

Turn on the television.

516 Cygnus  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:07:13am

re: #420 DistantThunder

Great….I’m flying to Dallas on Friday…..taking my sock of quarters…..

A sock of quarters could be a good weapon. Great. Now the TSA will ban carrying coins on board.

517 DistantThunder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:07:16am

re: #512 MandyManners

I saw on television this morning that he said it was justified by Islam.

The Koran said that jihadists can’t kill innocent people. So the recruiter was obviously guilty.

518 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:07:31am

re: #503 Occasional Reader

Our President’s spiritual advisor, ladies and gentlemen! Isn’t he great? Let’s give him a big round of applause!

//

*crickets*

519 JohnAdams  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:07:41am

re: #496 tradewind

The guy who shot the recruiting station up has made the statement in court that he is not guilty because it ’ wasn’t personal ‘…. but he would do it again in a heartbeat and would like to kill the entire US military for allah.
So now we have the ’ not personal, it’s just bidness’ defense…..

Reminds me of Yossarian in “Catch 22,” who takes the gunners trying to shoot him down very seriously. “Those guys are trying to kill me!”

520 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:07:48am
…calls a spade what it is…

LOL. That’s not how I remember the saying.

521 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:08:05am

re: #515 MandyManners

Turn on the television.

I don’t have one, because I’m oppressed. In my office, anyway.

522 rightside  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:08:07am

re: #500 Spider Mensch

Shit! I forgot he still smokes! lol

523 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:08:21am

re: #517 DistantThunder

The Koran said that jihadists can’t kill innocent people. So the recruiter was obviously guilty.

According to him, all soldiers are guilty.

524 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:08:40am

re: #521 Occasional Reader

I don’t have one, because I’m oppressed. In my office, anyway.

Go to Fox.com.

525 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:08:51am

re: #469 DistantThunder

I learned from my black professor that the Eqyptians were black, and that Jesus was black. No one said a thing, as I was one of only 2 white people, I thought it best to reserve my opinions.

i was told last night, by someone who’s never met me, that i’m a “passionate conservative”….. (snicker). of course, this person also knows that i listen to Rush religiously, and get all my information from him.

526 itellu3times  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:09:50am

re: #479 sffilk

As a Jew, I didn’t realize we held such power over the president!

Rahm Emanuel.

527 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:09:58am

Reports say the shooter used a shotgun, and shot at least one guard. Fingers crossed… hopefully the guard had his Kevlar on, and the gunshot was to the torso. Kevlar is very good at taking shotgun rounds.

528 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:10:22am

[Link: interactive.foxnews.com…]

529 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:10:47am

What sort of sick freak would attack the Holocaust Museum. Sheesh. What a world.

530 FrogMarch  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:10:55am

VDH on Obama’s dry hump media and other matters of Orwellian ethos

I am afraid I no longer believe …

…That we have an inquisitive American media as we once knew it. There has emerged something as bad as state-sanctioned coercion—which we could at least identify, and thus struggle against.

Now comes a more insidious, brave new self-imposed censorship of the Orwellian mode. It is not just the perennial embarrassment Chris Matthews describing his Obama ecstasy on camera, or even Newsweek’s Evan Thomas comparing his President to God, or even CNN execs being exposed trashing the US abroad at Davos, or whitewashing Saddam, but rather a more incremental new groupspeak in which basic words and ideas—from terrorism to war itself—have been reformulated according to political dictates.

it’s a good one.

531 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:11:03am

re: #471 sngnsgt

Just shows me he has no respect for the office. I for one am truly embarrassed at what he and Dems are going to do to this country.

You must have been REALLY pissed when Kennedy let his kids play in the office, or when Johnson or Bush let their dogs walk aroud sniffing things,

JEEEZZ ,,, lets battle Obama and the dems on REAL things, not “hey ,, he put his foot on HIS desk”

532 VioletTiger  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:11:05am

re: #513 JohnnyReb

It’s not bugs, it is all cedar shingles. The county guy said it is a mating thing. Apparently he likes the sound my shingles make while he tries to get a girlfriend. That call is how I found out you had better not shoot it.

So all you need to do it find the bird a date and problem solved!

533 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:11:39am

re: #513 JohnnyReb

It’s not bugs, it is all cedar shingles. The county guy said it is a mating thing. Apparently he likes the sound my shingles make while he tries to get a girlfriend. That call is how I found out you had better not [get caught] shoot[ing] it.

[was that me]?

Perhaps you can rent him a room and a woodpecker lady-of-the night for an evening?

Or maybe just turn a garden hose on him?

534 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:12:08am

re: #509 looking closely

That’s not exactly a proper medical assessment, but if this guard were struck anywhere in the torso with a rifle, that’s a critical injury.

Does anyone think this shooting incident is going to be classified by the media as “terrorism”?

only if the shooter was white.

535 Kenneth  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:12:08am

re: #529 Occasional Reader

What sort of sick freak would attack the Holocaust Museum. Sheesh. What a world.

I’m going to take a wild guess: a Jew hating sick freak. That’s what sort.

536 looking closely  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:12:12am

re: #531 sattv4u2


JEEEZZ ,,, lets battle Obama and the dems on REAL things, not “hey ,, he put his foot on HIS desk”

I’d rather have him take his foot off my wallet, for starters.

537 Zimriel  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:12:37am

re: #512 MandyManners

I saw on television this morning that he said it was justified by Islam.

I don’t know much about jihad law, but I suspect he’s wrong. There is no authority which holds consensus among the Muslims which could authorise such an act.

(By contrast, it is consensus among the Muslims that authorises such acts against Israel.)

538 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:12:55am

re: #511 Occasional Reader

Holy Christmas. I hadn’t heard about this.

re: #515 MandyManners

Turn on the television.

Ignore that advice, OR. Nothing short of war or the Second Coming could get me to tune back in to the teevee anymore. I’ve been off the electric tit for over a year now and the feeling of liberation is indescribable.

Everything I need to know I get from the intarwebs and blogs, and I can talk back to them.

539 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:13:00am

re: #527 Occasional Reader

Reports say the shooter used a shotgun, and shot at least one guard. Fingers crossed… hopefully the guard had his Kevlar on, and the gunshot was to the torso. Kevlar is very good at taking shotgun rounds.

A mad Methodist? Bellicose Baptist? Manaical Mormon? Morose Mennonite?

540 tradewind  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:13:08am

re: #510 JohnAdams
Yeah, I especially loved his ’ slutty stewardess makeup’ comment re Sarah Palin. Not that he’ll care, but reps from every F/A organization are pounding his inbox with protests.
What a jerk.

541 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:13:34am

re: #539 MandyManners

A mad Methodist? Bellicose Baptist? Manaical Mormon? Morose Mennonite?


Amorous Amish?

542 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:13:39am

re: #381 KenJen

First time in four months?

Yep. We don’t care much for shopping, so we shop in bulk a few times a year. There are fill-in purchases, of course. Milk and such as that.

The downside is that we notice rising prices.

543 John Neverbend  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:14:33am

re: #530 FrogMarch

VDH on Obama’s dry hump media and other matters of Orwellian ethos


it’s a good one.

“I once told a student that if she did not stop prefacing every classroom remark about classical literature with “As a Latina…” I would answer back with the preface “As a white guy…””

You go VDH!

544 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:14:49am

re: #532 VioletTiger

So all you need to do it find the bird a date and problem solved!

All the female woodpeckers replied
Ha - ha - ha - HA - ha!
(trying to write the Woody Woodpecker laugh)

545 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:15:16am

HEY ,, if anyone is watching this on FOX NEWS,,, thats kinda what it’s like where I work. About 150 little TV monitors with pictures from all over the country/ world, and we have to figure out how to get > that footage to

546 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:15:24am

re: #501 MandyManners

One anti-American, the other anti-Jewish. Hmmmm….

GMTA. I’m concerned because of the unidentified “other targets” found on the recruiter shooter’s computer. One of them was an unidentified Jewish target in Atlanta. Could the Holocaust Museum have been another? Just have to wait and see what the FBI turns up.

547 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:16:00am

re: #545 sattv4u2

HEY ,, if anyone is watching this on FOX NEWS,,, thats kinda what it’s like where I work. About 150 little TV monitors with pictures from all over the country/ world, and we have to figure out how to get > that footage to

and BTW ,, Harris Faulkner is H O T ,, THE most amazing eyes

548 CommonCents  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:16:40am

re: #464 MandyManners

If the shooting at the Holocaust Museum in D.C. is related to the one at the recruiting station, is there another target ahead?

That would be impossible because the authorities in Arkansas already told us that he was “acting alone and was not involved in any other larger group or movement”. I believe that statement was issued within the first 24 hours after exhaustive research.

549 [deleted]  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:17:20am
550 realwest  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:17:50am

re: #511 Occasional Reader
UH, turn on TV or go to the spinoff links above - lawhawk and NY Nana - among others - are all over the story.

551 realwest  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:19:21am

re: #539 MandyManners

A mad Methodist? Bellicose Baptist? Manaical Mormon? Morose Mennonite?


Angry Amish?

552 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:19:28am

re: #434 sngnsgt

Check out the picture of Barry in the Oval Office with his feet up on the desk on Drudge.

Big deal. What he was saying on the phone was much more relevant than that he had his feet up.

553 realwest  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:20:25am

Well y’all wish I could stay but I gotta leave. Hope y’all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

554 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:20:53am

re: #26 MandyManners

Coupled with Kilgore’s photograph of Carter accepting that Islamic text from , this early morning’s warm and fuzzies are gone.

“Them Jews can’t stop me from talking to you!”

- jimmuh

555 razorbacker  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:21:35am

re: #548 CommonCents

That would be impossible because the authorities in Arkansas already told us that he was “acting alone and was not involved in any other larger group or movement”. I believe that statement was issued within the first 24 hours after exhaustive research.

Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.

Move along, I said.

Are we going to have to haul you in for obstructing governmental operations?

I said, move along. Don’t you know that ‘I’m a Celebrity’ is on tonight?

556 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:22:23am

re: #548 CommonCents

That would be impossible because the authorities in Arkansas already told us that he was “acting alone and was not involved in any other larger group or movement”. I believe that statement was issued within the first 24 hours after exhaustive research.

Did you forget your sarc tag? A local LEO said that and was contradicted the next day, I believe, by an FBI spokesperson. I’m looking for a link now, but in the meantime, enjoy this one: Arkansas shooter had more targets in mind

557 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:26:14am

Fox News has a name for the suspect: James Bond Brunn. Also saying he was shot in the head.

558 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:27:07am

That could be James von Brunn, I think I misheard.

559 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:27:23am

re: #557 doppelganglander

Fox News has a name for the suspect: James Bond Brunn. Also saying he was shot in the head.

He was no 007, that’s for sure. He only thought he had a license to kill.

560 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:27:34am

re: #557 doppelganglander

Fox News has a name for the suspect: James Bond Brunn. Also saying he was shot in the head.

deosn’t sound middle eastern/ muslim!

561 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:28:13am

re: #558 doppelganglander

That could be James von Brunn, I think I misheard.

Vell, vit a name like that, is it too early to call him a Nazi?

562 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:29:50am

re: #561 Kosh’s Shadow

Vell, vit a name like that, is it too early to call him a Nazi?

Nope. He’s got a website called Holy Western Empire.

563 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:31:24am

Get Killgore on the case - he’s a friend of Stormfront and Arsenal of Hypocrisy.

564 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:32:34am

re: #327 looking closely

How long before we hear calls for increased “assault weapon” gun control because of this incident?

The victims may be Jewish. That presents a conundrum for the media.

Exploit this for political gain, per SOP? Or bury it because of the location and possible nationality/religion of the victims (also SOP)? Choices, choices.

565 ladycatnip  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:32:47am

Anybody upthread talk about the National Holocaust Memorial shooting in DC?

566 doppelganglander  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:33:47am

Does anyone know how to do a screen capture in Windows? I’ve got his Wikipedia User Page up and it’s marked for deletion. It’s a doozy, too.

567 ladycatnip  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:34:08am

#564 just answer my question.

568 Wendya  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:34:25am

re: #557 doppelganglander

Fox News has a name for the suspect: James Bond Brunn. Also saying he was shot in the head.

At least three people were shot today at Washington’s Holocaust Museum, after an 89-year-old white supremacist entered the building and opened fire “indiscriminately”.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk…]

569 Jimmah  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:36:02am

re: #566 doppelganglander

Press ‘printscreen’ button on your keyboard then create a new document or image in word/paint/photoshop or whatever and paste.

570 Wendya  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:38:36am

Google “James W. von Brunn”. This guy is a total nutcase.

571 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:41:29am

re: #543 John Neverbend

“I once told a student that if she did not stop prefacing every classroom remark about classical literature with “As a Latina…” I would answer back with the preface “As a white guy…””

You go VDH!

Heh …. we have an acquaintance who graduated from teachers’ college about a year ago who prefaces every sentence with “As a professional educator…”. I’ve wanted to follow VDH’s line more than once!

572 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:44:02am

Geez, it’s over a week since the last major nutcase shooting… Why did it take so long for a follow-up? Then again, the perp was apparently almost 90…

573 sngnsgt  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 11:46:31am

re: #552 lawhawk

Big deal. What he was saying on the phone was much more relevant than that he had his feet up.

True, but I still have as little respect for him as he has for the office. I don’t respect him, actually, I am embarrassed by the man and what he is going to do to this country.

574 AZDave  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 12:14:10pm

re: #8 dhg4

I can’t believe that he didn’t express similar hatred in the past and it’s still remarkable to me that Barack Obama didn’t see fit to distance himself from Rev. Wright until it became politically expedient to do so.

Birds of a feather….

575 AZDave  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 12:19:35pm

re: #37 Thanos

Wright is racism writ large, just like David Duke or Thomas Robb, why wouldn’t everyone call him a racist?

Because he’s Black?

576 AZDave  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 12:21:24pm

re: #92 soxfan4life


I wonder if Obama really does worship any entity other than himself.

Not likely.

577 avspatti  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 2:33:38pm

re: #573 sngnsgt

I am way beyond embarrassed by what O is going to do to this country; I am terrified.

578 quiet man  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 4:59:57pm

Lets hope wack job religious killers come in 3s, and we see no more of them for a while

/wishful thinking

579 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 5:56:03pm

rev wrong is such a vulgar pos. and o listened to a hater like this for over 20 yrs.
was married in that hateful “church” and had this anti-semite, racist hater baptize his children. this is o’s judgment, on display.
he is an embarrassment to this country.

580 Macker  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 7:59:52pm

I read this story earlier today (but not here, LGF is blocked at work), and ya know what? The “Reverend” Wright should have used the following word instead of “Jews”:

JOOOOOOS!

/motherfrakkin’ bastard

581 erisldysnomia  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 8:18:06pm

Rev. Man! Wright, de Jews is goin’ t’snatch away yo’ Church and turn it into some synagogue. Duzn’t wo’ry, dough, ya’ kin be da damn janito’.

582 Areopagitica  Wed, Jun 10, 2009 10:38:07pm

Wow, if Wright thinks the Jooos are ethnically cleansing Gaza, I wonder what he thinks of:

1. that video on youtube of Hamas thugs pulling up to a palestinian wedding and shooting most of the guests and the groom to death for dancing and playing wedding music

2. Nahool the bee

3. The iranian government’s treatment of Bahais

4. That little islamophobic event called Darfur

5. Egyptian treatment of Copts

6. Pan-Am Flight 103

7. Expultion of the remaining jewish communities in Yemen…Oh wait, he hates those “damn jooos”

8. September 11, 2001…oh wait we already know that one

Seriously, Obama and his leftist islamic appeasement machine is bumming me out.

583 Pupdawg  Thu, Jun 11, 2009 8:26:55am

“Of course I voted for him; he’s my son. I’m proud of him,” Wright said. “I’ve got five biological kids. They all make mistakes and bad choices. I haven’t stopped loving any of them. He made mistakes. He made bad choices. I’ve got kids who listen to their friends. He listened to those around him. I did not disown him.”

Evidently, if taken literally, Rev. Wright is a birther nirther or just confused as to his past sowing…or, is his son POTUS in whom he is obviously well pleased? It’s them Jews the Wright reverend is blaming. I guess ‘Playing God’ is limited to some folk of the cloth, doctors, serial killers and certainly not last, our saviour, The One, President Obama.

584 ASP001  Thu, Jun 11, 2009 9:55:32am

If you listen to the audio recording of his comments he actually says “that f*&@ing Jew”

585 RalphShort  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:45:52am

No doubt Wright is both a nut case and consumed with hatred. Oh, and our dear President and his wife faithfully attended his “sermons” for 20 odd years, made substantial donations to his “church”, had Wright officiate at his wedding and had his children baptized by him.

Wait a sec, all of these comments from Wright are always “taken out of context” and there is nothing to worry about.

586 Charpete67  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:31:46am

call him Ismael

587 ShanghaiEd  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:27:27pm

And the beat goes on. Right-wing extremists? Couldn’t be.

Officer of Minutemen group tied to home-invasion killings of (Latino) father and his nine-year-old daughter.

Jun 13th, 2009 %P% TUCSON, Ariz. — Two of three people arrested in a southern Arizona home invasion that left a little girl and her father dead had connections to a Washington state anti-illegal immigration group that conducts border watch activities in Arizona.

Jason Eugene Bush, 34, Shawna Forde, 41, and Albert Robert Gaxiola, 42, have been charged with two counts each of first-degree murder and other charges, said Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, Ariz.

588 ShanghaiEd  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:31:06pm

re: #581 erisldysnomia

Rev. Man! Wright, de Jews is goin’ t’snatch away yo’ Church and turn it into some synagogue. Duzn’t wo’ry, dough, ya’ kin be da damn janito’.

Point taken, but in this modern age, 1920s “Brer-Rabbit”-style black-speak is in very poor taste, to say the least.


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