Overnight Open Thread
The only thing I regret about my past is the length of it. If I had to live my life again, I’d make the same mistakes, only sooner.
— Tallulah Bankhead
The only thing I regret about my past is the length of it. If I had to live my life again, I’d make the same mistakes, only sooner.
— Tallulah Bankhead
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BatGuano Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:21:05pm |
Spy thingy again.
O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae monie a blunder free us
An foolish notion:
What airs in dress an gait wad lea'es us,
An ev'n devotion!
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freetoken Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:22:08pm |
Perhaps Tallulah's most famous quote(?):
Cocaine habit-forming? Of course not. I ought to know. I've been using it for years.
though I find:
I'm as pure as the driven slush.
to be more quotable.
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BatGuano Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:23:19pm |
re: #4 HoosierHoops
Hello Lizards!
What up?
This is now a Bobby burns thread, Hoosier. It will remain so until Charles pays me 12 million in Euros.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:23:22pm |
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:26:46pm |
Tell me again why we actually bother with the real thread?
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:27:28pm |
re: #8 HoosierHoops
Great...Red Sox keep on winning, I found this packet at the grocery store that contained 4 hamburger patties (80% lean), 4 mild italian sausages and some pepper-lime marinated chicken drumsticks and thighs for $5 and had a nice cookout with that today.
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:28:22pm |
re: Fenway_Nation
You got all that for $5 and you still ate it?
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:30:05pm |
re: #12 Noam Sayin'
Not all of it- I had 2 burgers and a sausage link, cooked up the chicken and put in a ziploc baggie and froze the remaining burgers and sausages.
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Racer X Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:31:11pm |
Wanted:
Someone to time travel with me into the future. This is not a joke. Must be able to withstand tremendous G-forces. Must supply your own weapons. Not responsible for injury or ? This will be the third time I've done this. Serious inquiries only. Payment on return.
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:32:07pm |
re: Fenway_Nation
I'm not sure you see my point, Fen. ;)
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:32:18pm |
re: #13 Fenway_Nation
Not all of it- I had 2 burgers and a sausage link, cooked up the chicken and put in a ziploc baggie and froze the remaining burgers and sausages.
I'll be at the Cabin Monday...First night I will BBQ Sausage links...
Yummy!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:32:34pm |
Hey there honcos. Just getting in from a graduation party. Anything new from Iran?
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:33:32pm |
re: #15 Noam Sayin'
Well...it was either cook it up tonight or toss it out w/the trash on Monday.
/So far no ill effects.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:36:02pm |
re: #19 Racer X
I think I broke the spy thingy.
You see...this is why we can't have anything nice...
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:36:29pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:39:35pm |
#18 Fenway Nation
If the burger was bad, you would know
If the sausage was slimey, stay away, same with the chicken, but the lime gave the chicken an extra day
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Macker Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:39:39pm |
re: rhino2
New LGF spy functionality is great!
I hope he adds more spy functionality where you can ding from the spy!
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:40:07pm |
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rhino2 Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:40:21pm |
re: Macker
I hope he adds more spy functionality where you can ding from the spy!
That'd be great, but this makes following a thread much easier, for me at least.
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BatGuano Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:40:23pm |
How to make the best use of the LGF Spy thing?
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zombie Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:40:40pm |
This spy-comment thing reminded me of a real story:
I once knew someone who became paranoid (I mean clinically paranoid, not euphemisticaly paranoid) that the FBI or the NSA could record his every keystroke and mouse-click on his computer -- not over the Web, but by some kind of detector outside his window picking up electronic signals of some kind. I scoffed at his delusions, but quickly found out that they were working on technology of this sort. It was not a fantasy of his, apparently -- they really might have the capability to "read" keystrokes remotely.
The delusion came in him imagining that he was important enough to spy on. He tried to be a sooper-secret hacker-dude, but his skilz were sorely lacking and he never really hacked into anything. Though he did chat online with people whom claimed to be toppermost-secret hackers engaged in extra-legal activities.
I eventually concluded he was just feeding his ego in imagining he was being caught in an espionage-esque roundup of dangerous underworld computer geniuses.
Anyway, the whole "spy" comments thing reminded me of this.
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BatGuano Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:42:40pm |
re: #29 zombie
Paranoia strikes deep. into your heart it will creep. it happens when you're always afraid. step out of line and the man comes to take you away.
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Macker Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:43:48pm |
re: HoosierHoops
Sweet! nice avatar dude
Here's the article...bsg vfx: anatomy of an (ancient) cylon
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Macker Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:45:01pm |
re: Iron Fist
Cool! +5 coolness points. That is one mean looking helmet.
:-)
My first reaction was HOLY SHIT!. Can you imagine Toasters with katana blades!
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:45:44pm |
re: #33 Macker
Here's the article...bsg vfx: anatomy of an (ancient) cylon
3am and I'm watching movies.. I must be on Vacation!
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:47:28pm |
re: #36 Iron Fist
They've been able to read your computer screen remotely for years. I've forgotten the name of the device. It picks up on the electromagnetic emmissions of your monitor. That would be in the day of the CRT monitors. I don't know if they can do the same thing with LCD screens.
Good morning Stud...What up?
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:51:13pm |
re: #37 HoosierHoops
How's the start of vacation?
You do know the trout have been warned?
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:53:39pm |
re: #38 Floral Giraffe
How's the start of vacation?
You do know the trout have been warned?
Oh frigging wonderful! Thank you...
Dang it's 3am and I'm just warming up
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BlueCanuck Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:54:25pm |
re: #36 Iron Fist
If it has an electronic signature, with the right antenna, they could probably read it.
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BlueCanuck Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:55:35pm |
re: #40 HoosierHoops
Hey some of the best fishing happens before the suns up. Do you have the lunar tables for where you are going?
/tried it once long ago, but all I did was drown worms.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:55:50pm |
re: #40 HoosierHoops
LOL!
3am? You going to have desert or breakfast?
It can be SO confusing!
Glad you're having fun!
(Nice to "see" you on a late night thread!)
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:55:58pm |
re: #39 Iron Fist
Insomnia :-) I can't believe how the time has slipped away. I came downstairs (to where the computer is) at 21:30 or so. Today's the 14th, so I can fill my Ambien script today. Yea!
(For me, Ambien is like a miricle drug. It has some strange and potentially nasty side-effects, but I can sleep. Sleep may be for the weak, but I guess I'm just going to have to deal with being weak :-)
How's life treating you?
I'm doing fine my friend...9 days off for vacation...party dude
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Soona' Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:57:53pm |
So this is where everyone is. I was on the last thread talking to myself.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:57:54pm |
re: #42 BlueCanuck
Hey some of the best fishing happens before the suns up. Do you have the lunar tables for where you are going?
/tried it once long ago, but all I did was drown worms.
I catch and release...fuck it...5am next week I'll be hanging in the boat watching Bald eagles flying overhead..
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Cheechako Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:59:03pm |
re: Macker
I hope he adds more spy functionality where you can ding from the spy!
You can ding from the spy thingy. Just click on the poster's name and a new window opens with the dingy buttons.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:59:13pm |
re: #46 Soona'
So this is where everyone is. I was on the last thread talking to myself.
You can't lose talking to yourself...
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Millicent Islam Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:59:48pm |
re: #29 zombie
I've read, although I don't know if it's true, that people who are clinically paranoid in the sense of being diagnosed with Paranoid Personality Disorder always score highly under NPD or narcissistic personality disorder, or at least tend to have narcissistic tendencies.
It makes sense that it would work that way, because the paranoid generally believes that everyone's watching him or spying on him, that everything's revolving around him and out to get him.
Interesting, if true, and it sounds like it could apply in this case.
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:00:00am |
Today in History, June 14th:
Highlights of this day in history: Nazi Germany's troops enter Paris during World War II; TWA Flight 847 hijacked; Stars and Stripes adopted as official U.S. flag; Leftist guerrilla Che Guevara and real estate mogul Donald Trump born.
Other notable June 14th events include:
1775 – American Revolutionary War: the Continental Army is established by the Continental Congress, marking the birth of the United States Army.
1900 – Hawaii becomes a United States territory.
1938 – Action Comics issue one was released, introducing Superman.
1942 – Anne Frank begins to keep a diary.
1951 – UNIVAC I is dedicated by U.S. Census Bureau.
1954 – U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower signs a bill into law that places the words "under God" into the United States' Pledge of Allegiance.
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Soona' Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:00:39am |
re: HoosierHoops
You can't lose talking to yourself...
Wanna bet? I can throw some pretty mean arguments at myself.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:02:28am |
re: #52 Soona'
Wanna bet? I can throw some pretty mean arguments at myself.
LOL
I'm watching Good Will Hunting...Now there is an augment you can't win
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:02:36am |
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:04:00am |
re: #53 Iron Fist
WooHoo! I've eat up all my PTO with being sick so far this year. I have to get it built up again. The Girlfriend and I are going to Southern California (California Dixie? :-) for Christmas. It'd suck to have to take unpaid leave to do it. I can square it with work if I have to, but damn I need the money (Don't we all?).
Have a fun and safe vacation!
I hate SoCal...I was born and raised up North...Where are you at?
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Macker Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:05:25am |
re: Cheechako
You can ding from the spy thingy. Just click on the poster's name and a new window opens with the dingy buttons.
That worky!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:06:16am |
re: #45 Iron Fist
Actually, I read about it in a novel. "Cryptonomicon". Of course the set up had to use a big ass antenna, and had to be right beside the device practically...
/I know it was just a story, but it makes sense with all the radiation that devices put off.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:07:41am |
Been a strange and fun week for me. Working and bebopping all across my city taking pictures again. :)
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:08:05am |
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:08:09am |
re: #59 BlueCanuck
Actually, I read about it in a novel. "Cryptonomicon". Of course the set up had to use a big ass antenna, and had to be right beside the device practically...
/I know it was just a story, but it makes sense with all the radiation that devices put off.
When do you go to day shift?
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Soona' Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:09:36am |
re: Iron Fist
Tennessee. I've been to LA three or four times with work. It was just OK. Too many people crowded on to too little land, and horrible expressways. I wouldn't want to ride a bike around in LA. That wouldn't be fun at all.
People in LA have to plan their lives around the traffic.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:09:38am |
re: #51 gmsc
1938 Action comics #1. I asked my dad to buy that for me in 1965: It was $ 25.00. 2 years later I asked him to buy it for me It was $ 100.00. Last I checked it is 4,000.00. sigh.
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:10:53am |
re: #65 BatGuano
1938 Action comics #1. I asked my dad to buy that for me in 1965: It was $ 25.00. 2 years later I asked him to buy it for me It was $ 100.00. Last I checked it is 4,000.00. sigh.
Is your dad starting to change his mind? Or wished he had?
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:11:36am |
re: #63 Iron Fist
Tennessee. I've been to LA three or four times with work. It was just OK. Too many people crowded on to too little land, and horrible expressways. I wouldn't want to ride a bike around in LA. That wouldn't be fun at all.
LA sucks..I was raised in Yountville in Napa Valley..It's the law...you must hate SoCal.LOL
Hope Charles doesn't read this!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:11:53am |
re: #62 HoosierHoops
Wednesday. *cheer* Right now I am starting my weekend with booze. Seems the way to go for some reason.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:12:48am |
re: #54 HoosierHoops
LOL
I'm watching Good Will Hunting...Now there is an augment you can't win
A better way to win the argument that I think you might be referring to:
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:12:56am |
re: #61 gmsc
Happy birthday, Superman!
[Video]
Best scene from the original Christopher Reeve Superman movie:
(Probably one of the most classic movie scenes of all time!)
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Soona' Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:13:24am |
re: BatGuano
1938 Action comics #1. I asked my dad to buy that for me in 1965: It was $ 25.00. 2 years later I asked him to buy it for me It was $ 100.00. Last I checked it is 4,000.00. sigh.
Under the zero's economic plan, it'll be $4,000,000.00 in a couple of years.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:13:34am |
re: #64 Soona'
But, it's the universal excuse for being late!
"I was stuck in traffic!"
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:14:32am |
re: #72 Floral Giraffe
But, it's the universal excuse for being late!
"I was stuck in traffic!"
I-5 sucks..There ought to be a law! LOL
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:15:28am |
re: #73 Iron Fist
But, then, you wouldn't be able to surf ;)
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:16:29am |
re: #74 HoosierHoops
I-5 sucks..There ought to be a law! LOL
405 is worse!
Heck we have traffic radio staions, so you can avoid the problems!
LOL!
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:17:27am |
re: #71 Soona'
Under the zero's economic plan, it'll be $4,000,000.00 in a couple of years.
What makes you think it will come down to the price of a week's groceries?
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:17:33am |
re: #77 Floral Giraffe
405 is worse!
Heck we have traffic radio staions, so you can avoid the problems!
LOL!
Hey friend...You live in Cali?
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:17:51am |
re: #76 Iron Fist
That's right! I wasn't even thinking about it but Charles in in SoCal. And he rides a bicycle in that mess.
[shudder]
Heh! Many roads have bike lanes. Not that that's MUCH safer, but it gives the bikes some room...
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:19:33am |
re: #77 Floral Giraffe
405 is worse!
Heck we have traffic radio staions, so you can avoid the problems!
LOL!
Yeah, apparently the 405 does have its share of problems:
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:19:56am |
re: #79 HoosierHoops
Urban LA!
Used to be in the Hollywierd Hills, downhill a couple of blocks to Graumann's Chinese Theatre! Now in vunderbar suberbia.
It's NICE in surburbia. If you put on your turn signal, folks let you in.
AMAZING! :)
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Soona' Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:20:00am |
re: HoosierHoops
Hey friend...You live in Cali?
I was on 405 at 3am once, and I thought it looked like rush hour here in Okla. City. That is until I saw what rush hour was really like on 405.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:21:18am |
re: #81 gmsc
I just saw that last week. Those guys did a good job on that clip.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:22:26am |
re: #76 Iron Fist
That's right! I wasn't even thinking about it but Charles in in SoCal. And he rides a bicycle in that mess.
[shudder]
Yeah but it's not like he riding on the freeways. The condition of the surface streets, based on potholes and cracks, is another story. I've almost been thrown off my motorcycle by crappy SoCal roads quite a few times. After police and fire, fixing potholes is supposed to be the next in line priority-wise for a city to fund and carry out. Not in California. Repaving roads I believe gets funded after free colostomy bags for eldery illegal aliens.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:22:51am |
re: #71 Soona'
Undere Zero's economic plan, comic books will be the new currency (along with sports cards).
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:23:27am |
re: #82 Floral Giraffe
Urban LA!
Used to be in the Hollywierd Hills, downhill a couple of blocks to Graumann's Chinese Theatre! Now in vunderbar suberbia.
It's NICE in surburbia. If you put on your turn signal, folks let you in.
AMAZING! :)
You are my new best friend! I love Cali...
But I'm a Napa Valley boy...Played College ball up there...
We should talk...Nice meeting you SoCal girl
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:23:59am |
re: #84 BlueCanuck
I just saw that last week. Those guys did a good job on that clip.
It seems the entire budget for that movie was $300, and $192 of that was a fine for filming on an L.A. Freeway without a license.
I hadn't thought about 405 since I saw it the first week it was released. If FG hadn't mentioned 405, I probably wouldn't have gone searching for it now.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:24:04am |
re: #81 gmsc
It's just too funny when there are websites devoted to traffic, and the local radio stations do traffic every 5 minutes! And they do, and it can save you HOURS.
www.sigalert.com
A "sigalert" is a traffic disruption that will colst the drivers more than a 30 minute delay.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:24:58am |
re: #88 gmsc
You beat me too it, only because I am in an alcohol induced haze at the moment.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:25:04am |
re: #83 Soona'
I was on 405 at 3am once, and I thought it looked like rush hour here in Okla. City. That is until I saw what rush hour was really like on 405.
LOL
highway 29... Every tourist in America drives it to the Valley!
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:26:30am |
TV Stations' Digital Conversion Confuses 700,000
Nearly 700,000 calls were received by a federal hot line this week from people confused about the nationwide switch from analog to digital TV broadcasts that occurred Friday.
The Federal Communications Commission said Saturday that about 317,450 calls went into the help line, 1-888-CALL-FCC, on Friday alone, the day analog signals were cut off.
About a third of the calls were about federal coupons to pay for digital converter boxes, an indication that at least 100,000 people still didn't have the right equipment to receive digital signals.
Another third of the calls were handled by live agents, and 30 percent of those were about how to operate the converter boxes. The FCC said most of the converter box questions were resolved when callers were told to re-scan the airwaves for digital frequencies.
/gee, they only had over two years to figure it out
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:26:44am |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:27:03am |
re: #88 gmsc
Have you seen the movie "Speed"?
You need to drive from LAX (The airport) on the 105 freeway inland. You will be driving what was filmed.
The bus jump? It was real. Filmed over a weekend.
It's really funny to drive the 105. Kinda creepy...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:27:10am |
Night Soona. Lizard dreams of nice warm rocks.
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:28:35am |
re: #94 Killian Bundy
TV Stations' Digital Conversion Confuses 700,000
/gee, they only had over two years to figure it out
It confused me. They said the programs would be much clearer. However, they still seem as obscure and pointless as ever.
;)
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pat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:29:43am |
Obama is indeed racist, controlling, narcissistic, genius, fool. The real deal. A Black Jimmy Carter. Smarter than reality.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:29:47am |
Weet dreams, all.
HH, i hope you stay up all night & have fun!
VACATION is all you ever wanted...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:29:47am |
re: #98 gmsc
SHOOT YOUR T.V.! there's nothing really on it that you can't buy on DVD anyway.
/or rent even.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:30:48am |
re: #98 gmsc
It confused me. They said the programs would be much clearer. However, they still seem as obscure and pointless as ever.
;)
I'm taking a converter box up north monday...We can only get NBC up at the Cabin...so I'm guessing NBC only in digital
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:31:16am |
re: #96 Floral Giraffe
Have you seen the movie "Speed"?
You need to drive from LAX (The airport) on the 105 freeway inland. You will be driving what was filmed.The bus jump? It was real. Filmed over a weekend.
It's really funny to drive the 105. Kinda creepy...
I've seen "Speed", so that's interesting to know.
It depends on how you define "real". Yes, a real bus was filmed jumping, but it was from a higher point to a lower point, and the gap wasn't as large as it seemed in the film.
Editing helped make it look like it was going over a much larger jump between two even sections of road.
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:31:50am |
re: #99 pat
Obama is indeed racist, controlling, narcissistic,
genius, fool. The real deal. A Black Jimmy Carter. Smarter than reality.
Welcome Back, Carter:
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:32:28am |
re: #101 BlueCanuck
SHOOT YOUR T.V.! there's nothing really on it that you can't buy on DVD anyway.
/or rent even.
DVD?!? You still watch TV from physical media?!?
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:33:55am |
re: #102 HoosierHoops
I'm taking a converter box up north monday...We can only get NBC up at the Cabin...so I'm guessing NBC only in digital
/your analog TV is so much junk without a converter box and, as a bonus, the digital signal doesn't carry as far as the analog signal, so you might be screwed anyway
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:34:47am |
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:35:12am |
73" Samsung? re: #101 BlueCanuck
SHOOT YOUR T.V.! there's nothing really on it that you can't buy on DVD anyway.
/or rent even.
73" Samsung? I don't think so...Wink
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freetoken Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:35:14am |
re: #94 Killian Bundy
TV Stations' Digital Conversion Confuses 700,000
/gee, they only had over two years to figure it out
Two years?
The FCC first adopted the ATSC standard in 1996.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:37:11am |
re: #106 Killian Bundy
/your analog TV is so much junk without a converter box and, as a bonus, the digital signal doesn't carry as far as the analog signal, so you might be screwed anyway
Will report Monday evening on the converter box..Maybe better to watch DVD's
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:37:18am |
re: #106 Killian Bundy
your analog TV is so much junk without a converter box and, as a bonus, the digital signal doesn't carry as far as the analog signal, so you might be screwed anyway
/then again, they say there will be more free channels with digital, I pay for all the cable available so it doesn't matter to me
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pat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:37:38am |
I think it is really creepy that Drudge headlines a Amahdinejad landslide when he knows that it clearly wrong.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:40:56am |
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:41:08am |
re: #95 BatGuano
Update:One just sold for $ 317, 200.
[Link: www.comicconnect.com...]
This makes me think of one of my favorite "if only" stories.
Back in the late '90s, Michael Kovatch started an internet business selling cell phones. The business didn't really take off like he wanted, so the business fell by the wayside. He kept his store's domain name registered over the years, in hopes of eventually finding a buyer.
This did work out well for him. You see, when he chose his domain name, he was inspired by Apple's iMac and their then-newly-released iPod. The domain name he chose for his business?
iphone.com
Here's the full story from the man himself:
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:42:12am |
re: #109 freetoken
Two years?
The FCC first adopted the ATSC standard in 1996.
/and yet it's still a mystery to TV dumbasses, the several month reprieve cost broadcasters hundreds of millions of dollars maintaining the analog signals
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:44:53am |
re: #103 gmsc
I've seen "Speed", so that's interesting to know.
It depends on how you define "real". Yes, a real bus was filmed jumping, but it was from a higher point to a lower point, and the gap wasn't as large as it seemed in the film.
Editing helped make it look like it was going over a much larger jump between two even sections of road.
I've still never seen any of the Speed movies. Yes, I know I'm a freak. I'm also one of us without a TV, too.
Speed 2 is the one with the cruise ship, right? Or is that 3? I was on Martinique/San Maarten when they were filming, and they had this thing like a railroad track built on the ocean bed, and a cruise ship running along it approaching the beach. They kept filming it over and over, backing up the ship and doing it again.
It was the most boring thing ever and overwhelmingly NOT scary, because it happened so slowly.
After that I kind of lost interest in seeing Speed or any of the sequels. Though I've heard the first was good.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:45:51am |
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:47:41am |
re: #86 BatGuano
Undere Zero's economic plan, comic books will be the new currency (along with sports cards).
I will sell my 1969 Topps John Havlicek rookie card for 12 million Euro.
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ArchangelMichael Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:47:50am |
re: #119 iceweasel
The first was ok. Entertaining but not outstanding. Speed 2 was so bad that Keanu Reeves refused to appear in it. I think Jason Patrick had been out of work since the Lost Boys and was willing to do anything.
I don't know wtf was up with Sandra Bullock though. Maybe she didnt actually read the script until it was too late.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:51:17am |
re: #120 Killian Bundy
/hands down, they make the best TVs for the price
unfaithful (2002) Richard Gere discovers his wife Diane Lane is having an affair.(Drama) please help me this movie sucks! LOL
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Killian Bundy Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:51:53am |
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:53:04am |
re: #122 ArchangelMichael
The first was ok. Entertaining but not outstanding. Speed 2 was so bad that Keanu Reeves refused to appear in it. I think Jason Patrick had been out of work since the Lost Boys and was willing to do anything.
I don't know wtf was up with Sandra Bullock though. Maybe she didnt actually read the script until it was too late.
Wow. I had no idea Keanu wasn't in it.
I'm not a big fan of Sandra Bullock. I think she's gorgeous but I don't like her as an actress so much as eye candy. She's been in a lot of crappy stuff, it seems to me.
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:54:43am |
re: #50 iceweasel
I've known people that are actually clinically paranoid and have had close family with the disorder. While there might be some correlation between narcissism and paranoia, the actual disorder doesn't always manifest itself in a way that the person suffering from it can actually rationalize their fear (extreme cases) so the narcissism is probably a side effect of the paranoia and not vice versa.
It's more akin to a severe phobia and the person is irrationally afraid of threats to their privacy and safety from any and all possible sources. I'm sure some paranoids rationalize their irrational fear into something they can cope with. That being if there are threats to their safety and privacy there simply must be good reason for that to be the case.
The one person closest to me that had a severe problem with it I do feel is very self-absorbed, even now after years of being medicated, level and no longer suffering from paranoia.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:55:47am |
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:56:20am |
re: #128 iceweasel
Wow. I had no idea Keanu wasn't in it.
I'm not a big fan of Sandra Bullock. I think she's gorgeous but I don't like her as an actress so much as eye candy. She's been in a lot of crappy stuff, it seems to me.
There isn't a Man in America that wouldn't do Sandra..She is smoking hot.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 12:57:56am |
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:00:30am |
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:01:13am |
re: #136 Fenway_Nation
Still waiting on the porquenotecalleas.com domain registration payday.
//
It's probably coming!
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:02:44am |
re: #129 Scion9
Scion9, that is really interesting. What you say makes a lot of sense to me. Paranoia is interesting because there's more than one kind and not all diagnoses of paranoia (so far as I know) entail narcissism; for example, paranoid schizophrenics. They're paranoid for sure--but not diagnosed with (or suffering from) narcissism.
you said:
It's more akin to a severe phobia and the person is irrationally afraid of threats to their privacy and safety from any and all possible sources. I'm sure some paranoids rationalize their irrational fear into something they can cope with. That being if there are threats to their safety and privacy there simply must be good reason for that to be the case.
Yes, i think that's right; in some cases (possibly many) they're reasoning backwards from the phobic reaction (intense fear, anxiety) to some rational explanation for it ("people are after me: it's the CIA [or whoever] )
As humans we love to look for patterns and explanations, and that applies to us all even when we're intensely phobic and fearful. Maybe even especially then? It can give us a sense of having control in a world that appears very frightening.
I'm so sorry for you and the person close to you who you mention in the last paragraph; that's so hard.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:05:28am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:05:58am |
Bat Boy and Excrement From the Bat's Rear Private Parts. Together at last.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:07:41am |
I am thinking this new spy comment thingy is cool, but the middle of the night might not be the best time for it.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:09:57am |
re: #142 Sharmuta
I am thinking this new spy comment thingy is cool, but the middle of the night might not be the best time for it.
Dang it! Hi Sharm! just watching movies and blogging..Hope today finds you well..
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:10:07am |
re: #131 HoosierHoops
There isn't a Man in America that wouldn't do Sandra..She is smoking hot.
Yeah and not only men. Just sayin'.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:11:20am |
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:12:06am |
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:12:57am |
re: #145 BatGuano
You'll always be first in my heart, no matter what bat-challengers arise.
But wait a minute...are you Colonel BatGuano?!
Because if you are, we already know each other...
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:13:10am |
I see we also can't see the dinging in the spy-comment thingy.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:14:26am |
re: #141 Sharmuta
"Excrement From the Bat's Rear Private Parts. " Lovely way you put it. :)
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:14:47am |
re: #147 Sharmuta
Hi Hoops!
Hi Sweetheart...I'm just about ready to write up a review of the movie unfaithful...
Hope today finds you well my friend
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gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:15:39am |
I've got to work tomorrow, so I'm drifting off early tonight.
My fruitcup is up for grabs!
Good night, all.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:16:00am |
re: HoosierHoops
Hi Sweetheart...I'm just about ready to write up a review of the movie unfaithful...
Hope today finds you well my friend
I am doing well, Hoops.
Good night gmsc.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:16:25am |
re: #153 gmsc
I've got to work tomorrow, so I'm drifting off early tonight.
My fruitcup is up for grabs!
Good night, all.
Part pooper! G'night gmsc.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:16:26am |
So, how does one comment from the spy? I opened it and see nothing.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:17:13am |
re: BlueCanuck
You have to click the Spy icon on individual threads. See the thread downstairs for full details.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:17:36am |
re: #148 iceweasel
Were you ever at Burpleson Air Force Base?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:18:25am |
Ah ha, I see. Thanks Sharmuta. Missed that thread.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:19:19am |
And while I'm discussing things from Latin America, here is a 330-car Brazilian ore train:
The longest trains in the world are run in either Brazil or Western Australia. Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton have they own private rail lines in the far northwestern corner of Australia.
Companhia do Valle do Rio Doce, a Brazilian mining company that owns several rail lines in eastern Brazil assumed control of railway operations from three different states and since 2000 has been investing over US$1 billion in capacity improvement and rolling stock alone.
How come we don't see 300+ car freight trains here? Simply put, it would be a logistical nightmare- a 2-mile long freight train wouldn't fit into most sidings on this continent, trains barely 1/10th that length will draw scores of complaints if they block a highway crossing long enough and one broken coupler or airhose would mean the conductor would have to get out and walk the length of the train...nothing like a brisk two mile hike while your train is clogging a major transportation artery. The Australian and Brazilian operators don't have to worry about such limitations (especially the BHP and Rio Tinto mining railways, since they are disconnected from the rest of Australia's rail network).
But fear not- the locomotives used in both the Brazilian and Australian examples are American made...
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:20:05am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:20:35am |
re: BlueCanuck
Ah ha, I see. Thanks Sharmuta. Missed that thread.
No problem. Us blue folk have to stick together.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:20:52am |
Ask not who is Aisha. Believe me you are better off not knowing. She got the stick a long time ago I believe.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:21:36am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:22:01am |
re: Sharmuta
Yes we do. But we are both blue for different reasons. :)
/can some one turn the thermostat up please?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:22:14am |
re: BlueCanuck
Ask not who is Aisha. Believe me you are better off not knowing. She got the stick a long time ago I believe.
No no no no no. Aisha was here last week- maybe it's two weeks ago now.
Aisha is classic. I don't really want to explain "her". It's best to let folks get it themselves.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:22:29am |
re: #164 BlueCanuck
No...Aisha made an appearence in one of the overnight threads a few weeks back.
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yochanan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:22:46am |
sure is cold here in chicagostan some one tell al bore
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:23:04am |
re: Sharmuta
What? She's still around? Wow. You are right though, she is an experience.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:23:25am |
re: #159 BatGuano
Were you ever at Burpleson Air Force Base?
Now look, Colonel... Bat Guano, if that really is your name...all I'm saying is we have to guard our precious essences.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:24:19am |
UnFaithful 3 star (2002)
Richard Gere Diana Lane..
This movie started out with great promise...In fact the first time Diana hooked up with the French dude it was movie magic...No nudity...but just smoking hot scenes suggesting sex..Very good directing and writing...
about half way the movie goes to a lower level and almost becomes unwatchable...I thought we had a keeper...just another shit movie...
Checking on demand...dang it
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:24:24am |
re: BlueCanuck
She really cracks me up. She saw Bat Guano and called him "Excrement of the Bat's Rear Private Part" and I thought I was going to bust my gut for laughing.
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yochanan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:24:41am |
still have to wear a hoodie and coat in the morning and it is the middle of june already
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:25:33am |
re: #173 HoosierHoops
I was waiting for you review...I thought that movie was so promising and then it turned into a pile of poo midway through. :(
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:26:03am |
re: yochanan
It's barely gotten better here. This time last week was still jacket weather. Usually this time it's shorts weather.
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yochanan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:26:06am |
sharmuta you never told me how much IT will cost me?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:27:06am |
re: #175 yochanan
still have to wear a hoodie and coat in the morning and it is the middle of june already
Damn that global warming!
I know...let's eschew those lethal nuisances like the internal combustion engine or coal-fired power plants!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:27:43am |
re: yochanan
sharmuta you never told me how much IT will cost me?
Well- IT can be expensive. I mean- how many computer geeks you keep on staff depends on how large the company is. ;p
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:28:47am |
Hmmm, half an hour till fruit cup. Do I stay? Or do I hit the hay?
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:30:02am |
re: #176 iceweasel
I was waiting for you review...I thought that movie was so promising and then it turned into a pile of poo midway through. :(
Ok OK...Isn't Diana Lane a beautiful woman? jeez she is cute...Ok I said it...
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:30:29am |
re: #173 HoosierHoops
Maybe it's just me, but I think the majority of stuff from hollywood these days is "shit movies".
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:30:29am |
Yeah, but I have been up since 8 yesterday morning. Don't know what I am doing later today, but it could get busy.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:30:58am |
re: #174 Sharmuta
She really cracks me up. She saw Bat Guano and called him "Excrement of the Bat's Rear Private Part" and I thought I was going to bust my gut for laughing.
I remember the crack (no pun intended) I don't remember who said it. I expect it. I think it is humorous.
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yochanan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:31:17am |
WONDER if the mad mullah's will start mass murder to stay in power or start a war?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:31:33am |
re: BatGuano
I remember the crack (no pun intended) I don't remember who said it. I expect it. I think it is humorous.
It was hilarious. I saved it to my favorites because it was Classic Aisha™.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:32:37am |
re: #186 Sharmuta
Redacted, In the Valley of Ellah, Rendition, Stop Loss...
It isn't just you, Sharm.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:32:59am |
re: Fenway_Nation
Snakes on a mother f*cking plane!
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:33:30am |
re: #186 Sharmuta
Maybe it's just me, but I think the majority of stuff from hollywood these days is "shit movies".
Yup...But i continue my weekly reviews cause I love movies...
:)
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:33:43am |
re: HoosierHoops
Yup...But i continue my weekly reviews cause I love movies...
:)
You are a trooper.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:34:01am |
re: #172 iceweasel
Now look, Colonel... Bat Guano, if that really is your name...all I'm saying is we have to guard our precious essences.
Hey, I'm not with Jack Ripper on the precious bodily fluids thing ( I don't even understand it) I just don't want to piss off the Coca Cola Company: The real power.
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yochanan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:35:40am |
i did not get the burning moped thing in the iranian riot pics until i saw that is the iranian pig's mode of transport
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:36:45am |
re: #185 HoosierHoops
Ok OK...Isn't Diana Lane a beautiful woman? jeez she is cute...Ok I said it...
hey, no argument here AT ALL. She's beautiful. And those scenes you mention were hot. Partly because they weren't explicit at all!
Hmmm, occurs to me it might make for a good rental for male lizards on a date at home, if you can plan to finish splitting a bottle of wine with your honey and shutting the movie off halfway through. Deserves a star for that!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:38:12am |
Up to 100 members of Iranian reformist groups have been arrested, accused of orchestrating violence after the disputed presidential election result.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:38:21am |
re: #170 yochanan
sure is cold here in chicagostan some one tell al bore
It's been in the high 80's to mid 90's here since May, sometimes hitting triple digits. This phenomenon is known as "local weather", and has nothing to do with the phenomenon known as "climate".
/Al's still an ass, though
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:38:51am |
re: yochanan
Not just an Iranian thing. An old world/European thing. Remember back during my peace keeping tour in Cyprus. Used to see groups of 20 or more of those things screaming through the streets. Called them wannabe bikers.
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yochanan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:39:27am |
my wifie watches these stupid chick flicks and she tends to watch them more than a few times
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:39:38am |
re: #200 Sharmuta
Up to 100 members of Iranian reformist groups have been arrested, accused of orchestrating violence after the disputed presidential election result.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
I'm only surprised that they haven't been executed. And such small numbers!
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:39:45am |
re: #197 BatGuano
That IS the best scene in the movie, in my opinion.
There's a 'colonel bat guano" who posts in the lib/progressive blogosphere, and a "Colonel BatGuano" i've seen hanging around a couple of righty blogs. Both are pretty reasonable. It would have freaked me out if you turned out to be one of them!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:40:15am |
re: #186 Sharmuta
German pr0n? Really?
/
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:40:38am |
re: #195 Sharmuta
You are a trooper.
It's worse than that..In about 2 hours the sun will begin to shine and I'll take my drunk ass outside and swim laps...in 128 minutes i will be the most sober man you ever met...That's just the way I roll...
I'm teasing you Sharm...Nobody is here..Thank you so much for your support a couple days ago. I will never forget your kindness..
The Hoopster
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:42:37am |
re: #205 iceweasel
That IS the best scene in the movie, in my opinion.
There's a 'colonel bat guano" who posts in the lib/progressive blogosphere, and a "Colonel BatGuano" i've seen hanging around a couple of righty blogs. Both are pretty reasonable. It would have freaked me out if you turned out to be one of them!
Nay, there is but one. And it is the one you see before you.
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yochanan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:42:44am |
have a good one lizards off to get a few zzz/s
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:43:32am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:43:39am |
re: #208 HoosierHoops
{Hoops}. It means a lot to me that you're so appreciative, but it's because you are a decent person that you have friends who care about you.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:49:25am |
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:50:19am |
re: #212 Sharmuta
{Hoops}. It means a lot to me that you're so appreciative, but it's because you are a decent person that you have friends who care about you.
It's not even 5am yet...I'm dreading getting into the pool in an hour.
all kidding aside...Sharm you are my favorite blogger...There I said it...
dang it! *wink*
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:52:13am |
re: #215 BatGuano
I agree with you.
2,000 years ago, Roman soldiers had the same thing! They just had to share.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:56:36am |
re: #217 HoosierHoops
You are a sweetie. Your friendship and support mean so much to me. And that goes for all my friends here. If we really still had the lounge, I would say more, because it would be more private, but it's too personal for me to share on a thread. Needless to say- the support and love I get from some of you fine folks makes the hard times I went through worth it. I love you guys.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:57:14am |
re: #216 Slumbering Behemoth
2,000 years ago, Roman soldiers had the same thing! They just had to share.
Iscrewed that up.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:57:25am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:00:12am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:01:30am |
re: #221 iceweasel
I wanders wide on the intertoobs, finding obscure insanities. Sometimes I links to thems.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:01:39am |
re: #223 Sharmuta
When a hand and arm just wont do. WTH?!
So is it the end of the world when you watch TMZ at 5am?
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:02:05am |
re: #224 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
Thank you, littleoldlady!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:02:05am |
FRUIT CUP! ! ! ! Thanks littleoldlady. Now I am off to bed. :)
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:02:32am |
Sharmuta! :-)
BatGuano! :-)
BlueCanuck! :-)
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:03:32am |
re: #226 Slumbering Behemoth
nothing wrong with that, I even kind of dig it. (blushes)
You're a majestic behemoth, ranging far and wide across the vast wilderness of the tubes. None can contain you.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:03:37am |
re: #224 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
Hey you! kind regards...I've been eating pineapples this morning...Drinking Bud lights with fruit is messing me up...LOL
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:03:54am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:04:35am |
re: #222 Sharmuta
Gots that live album. One of a kind music, it is. Gives this die hard metal-head chills. Good goose flesh.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:04:46am |
Hoosier! :-)
Pineapple and beer?!
/as the stomach turns...
;-)
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:06:00am |
re: #224 littleoldlady
Good morning, littleoldlady! thanks for the magic cup o'fruit.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:06:07am |
re: #233 iceweasel
nothing wrong with that, I even kind of dig it. (blushes)
You're a majestic behemoth, ranging far and wide across the vast wilderness of the tubes. None can contain you.
Wow! He sounds like a woolly mammoth. :)
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:06:13am |
Hiya Lol!
Is TallOldMan going to the Phillies/Sox game later on today?
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:06:31am |
re: #237 littleoldlady
Hoosier! :-)
Pineapple and beer?!
/as the stomach turns...
;-)
yup.That's how I roll!
How are you this morning?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:07:14am |
re: #223 Sharmuta
Be they overly obese or overly muscular, big people need some extra help in that department, I guess.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:07:48am |
iceweasel! :-)
Fenway! :-)
Yes he is! :-)
/G-d willing...if it would only stop raining around here!
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:08:23am |
re: #237 littleoldlady
Hoosier! :-)
Pineapple and beer?!
/as the stomach turns...
;-)
As the stomach turns: Carol Burnett Show!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:08:25am |
re: #236 Slumbering Behemoth
I remember well we bonded over the Portishead- you're the one who turned me on to this live performance. It's awesome. I love when orchestras get added to the mix of modern music. Always cool.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:09:06am |
re: #242 HoosierHoops
A few more ounces of coffee and I'll be able to tell you!
;-)
How is your vacation coming along?
Pineapple and beer...OY.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:09:11am |
re: #233 iceweasel
I have my limits. "Shit movies" is one of them.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:10:31am |
re: #238 Sharmuta
This is probably my favorite Portishead:
Listening. Love it. Thanks, Waa Waa Pedal!
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:10:33am |
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:11:37am |
re: #248 Slumbering Behemoth
A man has to know his limits. :)
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:11:41am |
re: #251 iceweasel
It's tough to pick a favorite off of 'Dummy'. The whole album is great.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:12:27am |
re: #238 Sharmuta
On of mine as well. Still waiting to hear a Lizard fan's take on their third album. The few tracks I've heard didn't thrill me.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:13:45am |
re: #254 Slumbering Behemoth
You linked me to a song, remember. I didn't care for it either. Sometimes, some bands need to know when to move on and stop recording.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:14:25am |
re: #247 littleoldlady
A few more ounces of coffee and I'll be able to tell you!
;-)
How is your vacation coming along?
Pineapple and beer...OY.
Hey you...In 50 minutes I'm swimming...Remember when I would bitch about 10 inches of snow? Ain't no playschool now...It's warm...in 24 hours we will be at the cabin...life is good my friend...
Beer and pineapples...
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:16:30am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:17:09am |
re: #240 BatGuano
Bwahahaha! Where Strides The Behemoth!?!
/going to and from teh interwebs, and surfing up and down on it
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:17:41am |
re: #259 Sharmuta
Where abouts is this cabin, Hoops?
Lake Tomahawk, Wisc. I bought it about 10 years ago for 40K...
It is paradise...
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:17:44am |
re: #254 Slumbering Behemoth
On of mine as well. Still waiting to hear a Lizard fan's take on their third album. The few tracks I've heard didn't thrill me.
i only heard a few on lastfm or somewhere. I wasn't thrilled. Granted, it's be hard to beat or match Dummy or Portishead...I didn't get Third and didn't want to because I couldn't stand being disappointed.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:21:56am |
re: #262 HoosierHoops
Wisconsin is very beautiful in some areas. I'm not as familiar with Northern WI as I am with Southern WI. Spent a lot of time in the southern part of the state as a girl.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:22:32am |
re: #244 littleoldlady
iceweasel! :-)
Fenway! :-)
Yes he is! :-)
/G-d willing...if it would only stop raining around here!
Right now, rain might be the only way the Phils avoid getting swept :P
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:23:27am |
re: #261 Slumbering Behemoth
From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:23:32am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:24:49am |
re: #251 iceweasel
That's the first song of theirs I ever heard. On the radio. That single was hot at the time. I heard it a few times, and was so impressed I had to find out the name of that band. I listened to several hours of shitty radio just to hear any DJ mention the band's name.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:27:00am |
re: #269 Slumbering Behemoth
I love you fiery middle finger.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:27:05am |
re: #265 Sharmuta
Wisconsin is very beautiful in some areas. I'm not as familiar with Northern WI as I am with Southern WI. Spent a lot of time in the southern part of the state as a girl.
There is nothing more inspiring than to be in a boat with a Bald Eagle flying over you at 5am...
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:27:54am |
re: #269 Slumbering Behemoth
That's the first song of theirs I ever heard. On the radio. That single was hot at the time. I heard it a few times, and was so impressed I had to find out the name of that band. I listened to several hours of shitty radio just to hear any DJ mention the band's name.
Don't you hate that?
Of course- I rarely listen to the radio anymore either- I just love pandora, where I can always get the band/song information.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:28:58am |
Holy cannoli! There's a skunk in my neighbor's yard!
This is "a first". You never see skunks around here.
/SMELL them, yes...
Suburban Philadelphia = Wild Kingdom
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:30:03am |
re: #271 HoosierHoops
There is nothing more inspiring than to be in a boat with a Bald Eagle flying over you at 5am...
Years ago, I was on the banks of Lake Pepin one morning, when a young Bald Eagle swooped past my friend and I- about 6 feet from us. I doubt I'll ever be that close to a Bald Eagle again. Just incredible.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:31:00am |
re: #270 BatGuano
Fun fact: every gee-damn pair of Mechanix gloves I have ever owned have always worn through on that finger first. Right through.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:31:14am |
re: #274 littleoldlady
Holy cannoli! There's a skunk in my neighbor's yard!
This is "a first". You never see skunks around here.
/SMELL them, yes...
Suburban Philadelphia = Wild Kingdom
Call Marlon Perkins! He'll know what to do.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:31:34am |
re: #269 Slumbering Behemoth
That's the first song of theirs I ever heard. On the radio. That single was hot at the time. I heard it a few times, and was so impressed I had to find out the name of that band. I listened to several hours of shitty radio just to hear any DJ mention the band's name.
I never heard them on the radio in the US...I was probably not listening to good radio when I was in the US.
I was living in the UK at the time and Portishead were a much bigger deal there. Trip-hop or "Bristol Sound" I guess it's called.
You probably liked Massive Attack, Mezzanine? here's angel from that:
Massive Attack was a big deal in the US though, right? one of their songs is even the theme for House now...
I'm largely ignorant of music, I just know what I like. :)
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:32:07am |
re: #277 BatGuano
Call Marlon Perkins! He'll know what to do.
Actually, I know what to do, too.
/STAY IN THE HOUSE!
;-)
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:36:43am |
re: #283 Sharmuta
I ♥ Pandora!
god, pandora is AMAZING-- it's just such a good way to find new music, too.
I have a number of male friends who are semi-autistic about music (and i mean that in the most loving way possible; they're just hyper alert and aware and always telling me about stuff) -- they and pandora are the only ways I find out anything about music. Left to my own devices lord knows what I'd do.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:40:05am |
Hey everyone. Indulge me on this (or not). A song from when I was 12 years old.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:40:27am |
re: #284 iceweasel
Pandora has turned me on to some good stuff too. I like the "Add Variety" feature- it's helped round out some of my stations without having to create new ones. For example- I was disappointed in my SRV station- after awhile- they were repeating songs. I was stunned- you'd think there would be plenty of Blues that station could play! So I added Joe Bonamassa to station, and voilá! Lots of hot, smokin' Blues now.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:43:19am |
re: #285 BatGuano
Hey everyone. Indulge me on this (or not). A song from when I was 12 years old.
Never mind. This has probably gone over like a Led Zeppelin.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:44:44am |
re: #278 iceweasel
You probably liked Massive Attack, Mezzanine?
Out of my scope, really. Head banging, horn throwing metal-head that I am.
Massive Attack was a big deal in the US though, right?
Maybe? No clue here. That link was cool though.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:45:21am |
re: #287 BatGuano
Oh hush. I already updinged you for it and was still listening. And I'd heard it before, so nyah.
And surely you're not old enough to have been twelve when it came out?
-- don't tell me if you are. I'm a liberal, I like having my illusions and resist seeing them shattered. :)
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:46:38am |
I had a friend bitch one time that all Zeppelin songs were about the Lord of the Rings. I said they say "Baby" in every song.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:47:28am |
re: #289 Slumbering Behemoth
Maybe? No clue here. That link was cool though.
Oh I don't know-- like I said-- I kinda thought this album was big in the US, but I wasn't in the US.
Here, i know you're a headbanging metal guy and all, but if you liked the earlier massive attack link you'd probably like this one better (i think)
Inertia Creeps
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:49:16am |
re: #292 Sharmuta
I had a friend bitch one time that all Zeppelin songs were about the Lord of the Rings. I said they say "Baby" in every song.
heh. So true, on both counts.
Let's not forget Fast Times at Ridgemont High, and the rule that you have to put on Led Zep while making out (or something like that?)
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:49:20am |
re: #293 iceweasel
Both your songs have the embedding disabled by request.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:50:21am |
re: #287 BatGuano
Never mind. This has probably gone over like a Led Zeppelin.
ref to a 'Lead' Zeppelin has been noted and appreciated, btw.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:51:51am |
re: #291 iceweasel
Yes, I was twelve. I thought it would be brand new to a younger generation.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:52:10am |
re: #295 Sharmuta
Both your songs have the embedding disabled by request.
really? that's v weird...what can I do? Sorry-- its working for me even when I click through. :(
hmm, ok, google inertia creeps massive attack on YouTube
and angel massive attack
I've had this prob before...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:53:42am |
re: #278 iceweasel
Also, it sounds as though this particular video game borrowed heavily for that particular song.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:54:02am |
re: #298 iceweasel
I clicked it twice to go to the youtube page, but you can tell if your video will play embedded by the little box of info on the right- where the uploaders info is. There's a space there with the URL or it says "Embedding disabled by request".
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:54:41am |
re: #300 BatGuano
Led Zeppelin is a Guaranteed upding. :)
Sometimes, you just gotta let the Led out. ;)
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:56:41am |
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:57:26am |
re: #297 BatGuano
Yes, I was twelve. I thought it would be brand new to a younger generation.
I hung out/hang out with a lot of older people. :(
Also: Cheer up Sleepy B! Oh what can it mean... (hope this link will work)
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:57:28am |
Hey guys,
I was wondering if you guys had some good statistic/info/whatever sites that offer the argument against socialized healthcare/medicine in a clear and concise way. I was at a party and having a discussion with a guy who was willing to listen about a whole lot of issues, then healthcare came up and I started talking about it but he wanted more info so I told him I'd come on and get some good information proving what I was saying. Anyone have any good links?
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:58:27am |
re: #302 Sharmuta
Thanks, I will try to be sure to check that-- i didn't before; I just cut and pasted the URL. Thanks!
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 2:59:43am |
re: #308 iceweasel
I hung out/hang out with a lot of older people. :(
Also: Cheer up Sleepy B! Oh what can it mean... (hope this link will work)
It works. Davey Jones of the Monkees. T hanks Ice.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:00:41am |
re: #301 Slumbering Behemoth
Also, it sounds as though this particular video game borrowed heavily for that particular song.
Oh my god, yes -- That sounds EXACTLY like it. (I'm utterly ignorant of gaming)
that's so close though, I imagine they must have paid them and stripped out the vocals?
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:04:30am |
re: #309 TheMatrix31
This is your lucky day, Matrix! :-)
Here's part of my collection...
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
[Link: www.forbes.com...]
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
[Link: directorblue.blogspot.com...]
[Link: directorblue.blogspot.com...]
[Link: directorblue.blogspot.com...]
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:04:53am |
re: #316 littleoldlady
This is your lucky day, Matrix! :-)
Here's part of my collection...
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
[Link: www.forbes.com...]
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
[Link: directorblue.blogspot.com...]
[Link: directorblue.blogspot.com...]
[Link: directorblue.blogspot.com...]
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
Awesome, LoL. Thank you :)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:05:51am |
re: #293 iceweasel
Hmm... Massive Attack sound like something I would dig. I am a noob to that kind of music. I do like a bit of Thievery Corp, though.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:07:19am |
re: #6 freetoken
Perhaps Tallulah's most famous [quotes]:
Cocaine habit-forming? Of course not. I ought to know. I've been using it for years.
I'm as pure as the driven slush.
Those are both classics, as is the one cited by Charles.
But Tallulah's greatest quip ever was when someone asked her if a certain well-known man, who traveled in the same social circles as she did, was one of those homosexual types:
"How should I know, daahling -- he's never sucked my cock."
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:09:44am |
re: #321 Sharmuta
I gots a million of 'em!
/if only I could FIND them!
//organizing my bookmarks would mean I'd have to get...um...organized.
:-/
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:10:45am |
re: #314 iceweasel
'Tis a great game, if you're into that sort of thing.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:11:08am |
Hahaha...if you find some stuff about specifics about how bad it is in other countries, that'd be great. He understood what I was saying, but he was hesitant about believing my telling him that other countries are in bad shape with their healthcare quality and all of that, because they "still have the system, so it has to be working".
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:12:09am |
Oh shit -- has this been posted yet? Dawn protests in Iran, 3.24 Eastern Standard Time, supposedly
let me know if that link works --
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:13:16am |
re: #322 littleoldlady
What's driving me crazy at the moment is my LGF favorites. I'll save something I think will be handy later, and forget to stick a tag on it, and the next thing you know, it's buried in my favorites and I can't find it. I wish I could search for blanks in my favorites- I'd tag them all, but as it is, I have pages and pages of the "All" to go through. *sigh*
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:13:30am |
re: #322 littleoldlady
I gots a million of 'em!
/if only I could FIND them!
//organizing my bookmarks would mean I'd have to get...um...organized.:-/
Sounds like a reference to Jimmy Durante.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:14:25am |
re: #325 iceweasel
Yes- the link works. Besides the youtube info where it will say if embedding is disabled, you can always use the "preview" function. The embedded video will load in preview, and you can see if it works.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:15:15am |
This is another great article...REALLY long, though, which (according to my cousin the doctor) really hits the nail on the head vis a vis how to REDUCE healthcare costs within our current system.
Someone has been posting a series of links in the spinoffs..."How not to run a healthcare system, #XX" that deals mostly with Great Britain and all the badness they are running into. I don't exactly know how you can do a search for them, but they're in there...somewhere.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:15:40am |
re: #325 iceweasel
Interesting- I just read a report the Tehran is quiet today.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:16:09am |
re: #324 TheMatrix31
I remember hearing about a married couple in Calgary a few years ago that were expecting triplets. They wanted to see a specialist, but the waitlist was so long, they wouldn't be able to schedule an appointment until a few weeks after the due date.
So they went to Monatana instead.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:16:09am |
re: #326 Sharmuta
I just had to favorite my own post just so I won't lose those links again.
/that's bad :-(
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:17:13am |
supposed letter from mousavi to the people of iran--
In the Name of God
Honorable people of Iran
The reported results of the 10th Iranians residential Election are appalling. The people who witnessed the mixture of votes in long lineups know who they have voted for and observe the wizardry of I.R.I.B (State run TV and Radio) and election officials. Now more than ever before they want to know how and by which officials this game plan has been designed. I object fully to the current procedures and obvious and abundant deviations from law on the day of election and alert people to not surrender to this dangerous plot. Dishonesty and corruption of officials as we have seen will only result in weakening the pillars of the Islamic Republic of Iran and empowers lies and dictatorships.
I am obliged, due to my religious and national duties, to expose this dangerous plot and to explain its devastating effects on the future of Iran. I am concerned that the continuation of the current situation will transform all key members of this regime into fabulists in confrontation with the nation and seriously jeopardize them in this world and the next.
I advise all officials to halt this agenda at once before it is too late, return to the rule of law and protect the nation’s vote and know that deviation from law renders them illegitimate. They are aware better than anyone else that this country has been through a grand Islamic revolution and the least message of this revolution is that our nation is alert and will oppose anyone who aims to seize the power against the law.
I use this chance to honor the emotions of the nation of Iran and remind them that Iran, this sacred being, belongs to them and not to the fraudulent. It is you who should stay alert. The traitors to the nation’s vote have no fear if this house of Persians burns in flames. We will continue with our green wave of rationality that is inspired by our religious learnings and our love for prophet Mohammad and will confront the rampage of lies that has appeared and marked the image of our nation. However we will not allow our movement to become blind one.
I thank every citizen who took part in spreading this green message by becoming a campaigner and all official and self organized campaigns, I insist that their presence is essential until we achieve results deserving of our country.
[ verse from in Quran: Why not trust in God, who has shown us our ways. We are patient in face of what disturbs us. Our resilience is in god. ]
Mir Hossein Mousavi
posted at tehran bureau, link here: [Link: tehranbureau.com...]
farsi original also available at link.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:18:05am |
re: #333 littleoldlady
I favorite some of my good links so that when I'm not at my home computer, I can still access these links to use again. I think the one I've used the most is the one about how many of the Founders were Deists. And the link on how Russia has gone fascist I've used a lot too. If it wasn't for my favorites, I'm not sure I'd be able to access those links so quickly.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:18:06am |
re: #328 Sharmuta
Yes- the link works. Besides the youtube info where it will say if embedding is disabled, you can always use the "preview" function. The embedded video will load in preview, and you can see if it works.
Thank you! I have only just figured that out; will try to make sure I always use it. Thanks.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:19:40am |
re: #331 Sharmuta
Interesting- I just read a report the Tehran is quiet today.
Well, the site reporting it is called tehran bureau--but I don't know where the vid was shot. No further info yet. It's from 3 hours ago.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:22:16am |
re: #334 iceweasel
Where does one go for news from Iran that isn't a state-run outfit?
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:22:38am |
I wish we could search our hearted posts by words/phrases in the title of the thread or of the post itself.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:25:19am |
re: #332 Fenway_Nation
I remember hearing about a married couple in Calgary a few years ago that were expecting triplets. They wanted to see a specialist, but the waitlist was so long, they wouldn't be able to schedule an appointment until a few weeks after the due date.
So they went to Monatana instead.
Wow.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:26:50am |
I've lost count of all the disastrous economic policies of the Obama administration (in only 5 MONTHS!), but the two that really worry me are cap and trade and this so-called healthcare reform. Everything else we will eventually recover from, but either or both of those will finish us for good.
The good news is, at the moment I don't think either would pass. HOWEVER, it may come down to mobilizing the public to flood Congress with emails, etc., much like the illegal alien fiasco of a couple of years ago.
Be prepared, folks!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:27:37am |
re: #339 TheMatrix31
I wish we could search our hearted posts by words/phrases in the title of the thread or of the post itself.
The favorites were updated recently with a calendar and the ability to search for links, comments or posts. I thought that was a big improvement. I just wish I could search blank tags.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:29:59am |
re: #338 Fenway_Nation
Where does one go for news from Iran that isn't a state-run outfit?
good question and I honestly can't tell you.
I've been finding stuff via (mostly lefty) blogs; I have no idea how accurate any of it is yet. They link to Farsi stuff, but I don't read farsi, and so I'm relying on translations.
I just found this in Time this am:
After a Disputed Election, Tehran's Streets Become a Battleground
It's way past midnight in Tehran, but this city is not sleeping. Outside on the streets, people are honking their horns in protest and stretching their hands out of cars making peace signs — a sign of support for Mir-Hossein Mousavi, the opposition candidate apparently defeated by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran's presidential election on Friday.
snip
groups of people had formed fronts and threw stones at the police forces, leaving stones covering many streets. One of the men throwing stones said they would not stop until "they hold fair elections. Do they think we're that dumb?"Wherever crowds were gathered, the police used pepper stray, which also affected passengers in cars and buses driving by. On Taleqani Street, where some of the worst clashes took place, a motorcade of basijis drove by waving metal batons and chains in the air.
snip
"This is a mammoth battle between the two Islamic Republic dinosaurs," said Reza, a 28-year old accountant, watching the protests from inside a flower shop.
From early evening onward, the entire mobile phone network was cut off, making it difficult for protestors to coordinate, or to learn of the widespread nature of the protests. The Internet was also blocked in certain parts of the city, and satellite TV trannsmissions were reduced to snow. Out of Iran's six television channels, only the all-news channel aired reports on the election, and those mostly exalted "the glory of people's participation in the election."
"They tricked us into this whole thing. They got us out in droves, only to fool us and credit themselves," one woman watching the clashes said, unable to hold back her tears.
"I even got five of my family members who had not voted since the revolution to come out and vote," she sobbed. "Shame on me!"
more at link, and photos:
[Link: www.time.com...]
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:30:01am |
re: #341 littleoldlady
Do not underestimate the perpetual clusterfuck that will ensue if Card Check passes...
Maybe not as scary as cap and trade, but I think it's almost as damaging and something that can't be undone...
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:30:17am |
This post at the Tehran Bureau is saying they are holding off on protests until Monday:
[Link: tehranbureau.com...]
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:31:00am |
Matrix...
[Link: nooilforpacifists.blogspot.com...]
[Link: patriotroom.com...]
Oh! I missed this one! CHARTS!
Image: US-Health-785647.gif
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:31:18am |
re: #338 Fenway_Nation
Where does one go for news from Iran that isn't a state-run outfit?
I found the Tehran Bureau from the NYT yesterday.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:33:06am |
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
thelongblogger is the one posting those links I mentioned.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:33:20am |
re: #343 iceweasel
"This is a mammoth battle between the two Islamic Republic dinosaurs,"
*pointing up to the sky*
"Oh no! Godzilla is attacking the city!"
/poorly lip-synched from Japanese to Farsi.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:34:16am |
re: #342 Sharmuta
The favorites were updated recently with a calendar and the ability to search for links, comments or posts. I thought that was a big improvement. I just wish I could search blank tags.
Sweet.
And thanks, LoL!
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:34:52am |
re: #345 Sharmuta
This post at the Tehran Bureau is saying they are holding off on protests until Monday:
[Link: tehranbureau.com...]
yes-- because the internet is basically shut down there. They shut down Facebook, twitter (because people were using twitter to co-ordinate protests), SMS (i.e. text messaging, and web-based texting to phones), and also the use of cell phones within Iran last night.
International cell phones are still working last I heard-- people in Iran can call out to other countries if they have the right kind of phone/plan -- but they cant call each other.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:35:03am |
re: #344 Fenway_Nation
Seriously? You think it will permanently damage the economy?
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:36:04am |
re: #349 Fenway_Nation
/poorly lip-synched from Japanese to Farsi.
Is it Mothra? Because I love Mothra!
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:40:12am |
re: #352 littleoldlady
Yes...there's just something inherently creepy and wrong about getting rid of a secret, confidential ballot. Would most people vote the same way if their ballot wasn't anonymous?
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haakondahl Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:42:27am |
Unions: Duplicating all of the vices of capitalism with none of the benefits. It's like paying taxes twice.
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freetoken Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:45:04am |
re: #355 iceweasel
Is it Mothra? Because I love Mothra!
Ahh... yes... and of course, Mothra's devoted twins, ザ・ピーナッツ !
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbcvVMDAN2k&feature=related
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:45:32am |
re: #356 Fenway_Nation
Oh, I agree it's a simply awful law, sends the wrong message, and certainly has nothing to do with freedom or democracy. But it seems to me it would be relatively easy to repeal or rewrite later.
/I hope. :-/
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haakondahl Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:45:39am |
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:46:34am |
re: #345 Sharmuta
This post at the Tehran Bureau is saying they are holding off on protests until Monday:
[Link: tehranbureau.com...]
Shit-- I don't know if it's true, but there's a post up from a while ago (today) on tehran bureau saying "TEHRAN BUREAU NOW BLOCKED IN IRAN"
It's pleading for help--
it says this:
Sunday Iran Alerts
From a friend via email: He issued an official statement saying dont do anything today — but called for a massive demo tomorrow from Valiasr Sq to Tajrish It was crazy last night. Ruzbeh was jailed, Siavash was tazored and beaten, Ali too, (all in separate areas). At 11 pm we went to Parkway, a lot of people were out … they broke all the gov. bank windows, took down lampposts, made burning barricades … and they killed two basijis! … it was so surreal … THEN..
… THEY came (30, 40 basijis on motorbikes, with these spiky things they were swinging …) and chased everyone … stampede-style mass panic … it was like pamplona running of the bulls … girls screaming ……..Dear staff at BBC/VOA Persian:
You are the only means of mass communication left to Iranians in the absence of sms/mobile/Facebook networks and the arrests of Reformist leaders.
The Islamic Republic has never been so exposed/vulnerable – nor ever so terrorizing as a police state as now, in the aftermath of the 22 Khordad coup d’etat – which is what this election effectively was.
I deleted most of it for brevity. Again, no idea how much, if any, is true, but the whole post is here:
[Link: tehranbureau.com...]
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:47:09am |
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haakondahl Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:48:31am |
re: #361 freetoken
Ahh... yes... and of course, Mothra's devoted twins, ザ・ピーナッ&# x30C4; !
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbcvVMDAN2k&feature=relate d
The Pen--*&^*&^ what?!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:50:58am |
re: #367 iceweasel
They can't keep communications down forever. Well- they can try, but folks have a way of getting around that sort of thing when the will is there, and I believe the will of the Iranian people IS there. They will find the means to communicate when and where protests are happening. Cutting off the communications, I think, will only strengthen the resolve of the people to push back.
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haakondahl Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:53:36am |
Is this business in Iran finally getting some play on TV? I'm stuck behind the AFN asleep-at-the-switch, we'll-just-roll-Larry-King-again autopilt programming, which rolls every 30-60 minutes from one network to the next, but even CNN HLN hasn't seemed to be focusing on this, aside from pimping Amanpour.
They teased "Elections results, Breaking" for TWENTY FUCKING MINUTES, across several commercial breaks, while they waited for whtever needed finishing in their connection to Amanpour in Tehran. They knew the results, and were SITTING IN THE INFORMATION because (I suppose) Amanpour is the new DAN, and if she wasn't able to announce it live, there would be Hell to pay.
I was just furious. Did anybody else see that?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:54:40am |
To be fair, an arrangement like the one Union Pacific Railroad has with it's furloughed employees probably wouldn't be possible without the respective unions.
Seems like a cross between UP learning from their mistakes earlier this decade [dismissing skilled workers they'd need in a year or two] and the unions not overplaying their hand (it's not often I get to say that).
But aside from that, I'd be hard-pressed to think of anything constructive unions have done in the 21st century.
Again...if I were a BLE member, I'd have serious misgivings about my union dues going to Kos photo ops.
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haakondahl Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:55:41am |
PIMF "sitting ON the information"
This is about as backward as news organizations abusing theoir position to embed authors with Presidential candidates to sell books after the election--with the contents off-limits before the election.
Their role in society is to provide the information, as appropriate and as available the this society, BEFORE THE ELECTION.
Sorry. I'm all shouty today.
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freetoken Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:56:30am |
re: #369 haakondahl
I said:
ザ・ピーナツ but for some reason the Unicode gets trashed on the last character, sometimes.
/Why remains a mystery to me.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:57:02am |
re: #353 BatGuano
That's some dirty stuff.
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haakondahl Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:58:03am |
re: #372 Fenway_Nation
To be fair, an arrangement like the one Union Pacific Railroad has with it's furloughed employees probably wouldn't be possible without the respective unions.
Seems like a cross between UP learning from their mistakes earlier this decade [dismissing skilled workers they'd need in a year or two] and the unions not overplaying their hand (it's not often I get to say that).
But aside from that, I'd be hard-pressed to think of anything constructive unions have done in the 21st century.
Again...if I were a BLE member, I'd have serious misgivings about my union dues going to Kos photo ops.
Unions, like a lot of things, are a bulwark against a certain kind of evil, and an opportunity for certain other kinds of evil, and should therefore be tightly restricted.
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littleoldlady Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:58:11am |
Roxanne the Dog says I've been sitting here long enough and it's time to pay attention to HER.
/boy, I SURE HOPE that skunk has vacated the neighborhood
//this could get really UGLY! :-(
Good day, ALL!™
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:58:52am |
re: #364 littleoldlady
It's a multilayered dogshit cake, LoL...
If it passes, not only will it be impossible to remove some of the union kapos from more and more sectors of societey, the lobbyist bloodsuckers will de their level best to block any attempt to overturn Card Check because it will be a huge moneymaker for the Dems...it is like stepping in three piles of dogshit all at once.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 3:59:22am |
re: #371 haakondahl
Is this business in Iran finally getting some play on TV? I'm stuck behind the AFN asleep-at-the-switch, we'll-just-roll-Larry-King-again autopilt programming, which rolls every 30-60 minutes from one network to the next, but even CNN HLN hasn't seemed to be focusing on this, aside from pimping Amanpour.
They teased "Elections results, Breaking" for TWENTY FUCKING MINUTES, across several commercial breaks, while they waited for whtever needed finishing in their connection to Amanpour in Tehran. They knew the results, and were SITTING IN THE INFORMATION because (I suppose) Amanpour is the new DAN, and if she wasn't able to announce it live, there would be Hell to pay.
I was just furious. Did anybody else see that?
I didn't see it, but what you describe is one reason I don't have TV anymore.
Last time I had TV was when we invaded Iraq (again) -- I only wanted CNN and BBC America and to get those I had to get "basic cable" which was still dozens of channels and dozens of dollars.
bleah.
Go on and get shouty! It's justified.
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haakondahl Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:00:16am |
re: #374 freetoken
I said:
ザ・ピーナツ but for some reason the Unicode gets trashed on the last character, sometimes.
/Why remains a mystery to me.
And I don't even know The Peanuts.
Is the last unicode character colliding with the beginning of the tag following it, maybe expecting another byte if not blank?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:04:30am |
re: #376 haakondahl
More than once I remember having a discussion on how shiftless and corrupt some unions have gotten. Then another party (not even a union member) turns it to 'Why do you hate unions so much? If it werent for unions, we wouldn't even have weekends or overtime!'
That's like me pointing out the exponentially higher crime rate in South Africa since the ANC took over and someone else countering with 'Why are so enthusiastic to see a return to Apartheid?'
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:09:50am |
Fox says Ahmadinejad is just now starting a press conference. Bet he sounds like Baghdad Bob: There have been no arrests, the streets are calm, everyone is celebrating my landslide, there are no gays here!
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:13:40am |
re: #388 Rancher
Fox says Ahmadinejad is just now starting a press conference. Bet he sounds like Baghdad Bob: There have been no arrests, the streets are calm, everyone is celebrating my landslide, there are no gays here!
"We have always been at war with EastAsia. I mean Eurasia. Anyway, war=peace, freedom=slavery, and ignorance=strength. Thank you and good night."
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Rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:18:35am |
Mir Hossein Mousavi, the challenger in this election, said the vote was tainted by widespread fraud. It was not clear how many Iranians are aware of Mousavi's claims. Communications were disrupted beginning Friday after voting ended. This seems an apparent blackout except for state television and radio broadcast of the Interior Ministry's vote count. Mousavi's midnight news conference was not seen.
From [Link: www.associatedcontent.com...]
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haakondahl Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:19:51am |
Was Amanpour in on the deal with Saddam Hussein? I think she was. Why should we trust her or CNN in Iran?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:23:05am |
Right. I'm done for. I'm tapping out. Later Lizards.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:28:06am |
Daniel Pipes thinks Khamenei gave Ahmadinejad the election, I think Ahmadinejad stole it using his power over the Ministries. We both can't figure this out:
Why did Khamene'i select Ahmadinejad to "win" the election? Why did he not chose a president-puppet who would present a smile to the world, including Obama, handle the economy competently, not rile the population, and whose selection would not inspire riots that might destabilize the regime?
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:28:44am |
re: #392 haakondahl
Was Amanpour in on the deal with Saddam Hussein? I think she was. Why should we trust her or CNN in Iran?
I don't.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:33:04am |
re: #392 haakondahl
Was Amanpour in on the deal with Saddam Hussein? I think she was. Why should we trust her or CNN in Iran?
What deal with Saddam?
BTW, Amanapour is married to Jamie Rubin, a State Department spokesman under Bill Clinton and a foreign policy advisor to John Kerry's presidential campaign. Also there were allegations that that the Bush admin had her under surveillance.
I'm not a fan of hers anyway.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:35:45am |
re: #397 Rancher
Thanks for posting that; i will read it for sure, but later. I'm not a fan of Pipes.
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haakondahl Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:39:22am |
re: #398 iceweasel
What deal with Saddam?
Between Gulf Wars, CNN had struck a deal with Saddam, that they wouldn't report on the excesses and abuses perpetrated by his regime, in exchange for maintaining an office in Baghdad.
They admitted it.
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haakondahl Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:44:15am |
www.truthorfiction.com has Eason Jordan's own admission, which must certainly be the most charitable interpretation of the deal.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:45:13am |
re: #400 haakondahl
Between Gulf Wars, CNN had struck a deal with Saddam, that they wouldn't report on the excesses and abuses perpetrated by his regime, in exchange for maintaining an office in Baghdad.
They admitted it.
Wow, that's awful! I had no idea. Despicable.
small point: Amanpour only works for CNN, so she wasn't brokering that deal, right? when you say she was 'in on it'? --
(She's still worthy of condemnation for going along with it, and pls note my earlier post about reasons to think she may be less than objective anyway, even without this scandal)
Thank you; I learned from you. Will look it all up soon--(i hope).
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:46:54am |
Ledeen sums up the situation so far:
•Mousavi and Karrubi, the two “reformist” candidates in Friday’s “elections” are under house arrest, along with dozens of their followers;
•“Reformist” journalists and activists have been rounded up and jailed;
•Cell phones (including, after a day’s delay, international cell phones) have been blocked, access to internet has been filtered, facebook is unreachable, and you can’t tweet (can the silencing of Western reporters be far behind?);
•In Tehran, student dormitories are surrounded by security forces.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:54:24am |
re: #406 Iron Fist
The Media Are the Enemy.
They have been for a long time-- and they're not only the enemy of the right, or of the left. THEY are our common enemy.
In my opinion.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:00:49am |
re: iceweasel
They have been for a long time-- and they're not only the enemy of the right, or of the left. THEY are our common enemy.
In my opinion.
Perhaps in a theoretical sense, but the MSM are currently, and have been for many years, heavily biased against the right and in favour of the left.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:05:15am |
Wow! I just went looking through an old box looking for a poem I wanted to share with you guys, and found one of my all time favorite photos of myself. It's classic me. I thought I'd lost it permanently, but I didn't! Yea!
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1SG(ret) Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:05:32am |
The Teabaggers on the right "can't handle the truth", so the MSM must filter it for them!
/
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:07:40am |
re: Iron Fist
Do you remember it comming out that CNN had been clearing their reports (and tailoring them to be cleared) through the Hussein Regiem in Iraq before the Second Gulf War? They'd deliberately quashed unfavorable reports (on little things like torture and genocide) to maintain their access to Iraq.
Of course, they didn't feel so solicitous of the US Military when Abu Grabass came out, but that is another story.
It is infuriating, really. Why should I trust any of these motherfuckers? They've been working fo ryears, decades, hell, my whole life to assure me that they aren't trustworthy enough to report on a bucket of warm spit.
I've got the message. The Media Are the Enemy.
I haven't trusted the MSM in years. Not only because they are the political enemy (which they are), but more importantly because their reporting is so often false and misleading.
The MSM makes our job as consumers of news much more difficult than it would be if they did a better job.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:09:13am |
re: #409 Spare O'Lake
Perhaps in a theoretical sense, but the MSM are currently, and have been for many years, heavily biased against the right and in favour of the left.
I'm quite aware that this is the Right's fave talking point; but you must understand that the left hates the MSM at least as much as you, and has hated them for longer.
the beltway media is interested in nothing but vapid stories and maintaining its own access to power; they're interested in preserving access and their invitations to the cocktail party circuit in DC.
Right now their shallowness and vapidity happens to be 'benefiting' Obama. Doesn't make me respect them or like them any better.
i realise it's heresy on a right leaning blog to point out that the MSM isn't actually liberal, but there you go.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:10:14am |
re: #412 Spare O'Lake
I haven't trusted the MSM in years. Not only because they are the political enemy (which they are), but more importantly because their reporting is so often false and misleading.
The MSM makes our job as consumers of news much more difficult than it would be if they did a better job.
perfect, well said.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:10:45am |
re: Sharmuta
Wow! I just went looking through an old box looking for a poem I wanted to share with you guys, and found one of my all time favorite photos of myself. It's classic me. I thought I'd lost it permanently, but I didn't! Yea!
Hi there. Make sure you colour it blue first before you post it.
I wouldn't want you to blow your secret identity./
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:11:54am |
re: #411 1SG(ret)
The Teabaggers on the right "can't handle the truth", so the MSM must filter it for them!
/
They're straining the tea of truth through the filter of freedom!
/
or something like that. :)
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:12:56am |
re: #415 Spare O'Lake
I was going to post a poem, not my picture.
Is now a good time for poetry though?
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:13:13am |
re: #410 Sharmuta
I want to see the picture AND know the poem. I'm greedy like that. :( Please?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:13:51am |
re: #419 iceweasel
OK- I will post the poem. But it will take me a few to type it, so have patience.
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rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:14:47am |
I'm trying to figure out which unnecessary testings are accounting for 30% of money payed into the Medical system?
I was under the impression the biggest waste on money in the Medical industry is malpractice claims(and the associated legal costs of keeping lawyers on staff) followed by Illegals qualifying for Medicare/medicaid.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:15:36am |
re: Sharmuta
I was going to post a poem, not my picture.
Is now a good time for poetry though?
There is never a good time to post long poetry, unless it's one of those buzzed-up deals. Try to keep it under 5 pages. ;D
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:16:52am |
re: #417 Iron Fist
I've been meaning to ask you thi for a few days. I like your nick. It is distinctive, to say the least. Where did it come from? I'd have never thought of the combination myself.
(Oh, and I like weasels. I used to have one. Either that or he was the biggest goddamn ferret in the world. He was a rescue animal who'd been caught in the wild. He'd been neutered, so he'd been someone's pet, and they just dumped himwhen he got big.
That is still infuriating.)
God that's so cute... ok i shouldnt say cute but something like 'cool', or better yet something articulate. Ferrets and weasels are great!
my nic is from a Matt Groening quote, the guy who created the Simpsons. It's not from the Simpsons (though I am a huge fan) but from the comic strip he wrote way before that, called "life in hell"
"Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come."
Where does Iron Fist come from, btw? Do I want to know?
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:18:34am |
re: #413 iceweasel
There are statistical studies of the bias of the media based upon the number of stories on particular topics they report. There's no doubt that they lean left, with the exception of Fox, which leans right. I was most surprised to learn that that Drudge, despite his reputation, actually leans slightly left.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:18:43am |
I'm using this spy posting thing for the first time and notice that the comments are not numbered.
Is this by design?
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rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:19:39am |
re: #417 Iron Fist Technically Ferrets are Weasels or rather member of the weasel family(Mustella). there are 16 species of weasel 10 of which include weasel in the name. Ther others are ferrets, 2 minks, Polecats, and the Stoat(also called the Ermine).
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:21:08am |
re: #426 rustler
Rustler you ole polecat! For some reason I thought a polecat was a skunk.
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rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:21:12am |
re: #425 Spare O'Lake
Probably since spy looks at posts to all threads instead of just the one so numbering there would get confusing in the actual thread.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:22:39am |
re: #406 Iron Fist
Do you remember it comming out that CNN had been clearing their reports (and tailoring them to be cleared) through the Hussein Regiem in Iraq before the Second Gulf War? They'd deliberately quashed unfavorable reports (on little things like torture and genocide) to maintain their access to Iraq.
Of course, they didn't feel so solicitous of the US Military when Abu Grabass came out, but that is another story.
It is infuriating, really. Why should I trust any of these motherfuckers? They've been working fo ryears, decades, hell, my whole life to assure me that they aren't trustworthy enough to report on a bucket of warm spit.
I've got the message. The Media Are the Enemy.
Eason Jordan should have been fired when that came out.
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rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:22:46am |
re: #427 Rancher
Marbled Polecat. When Europeans settled america skunks were called Polecats becasue of similar facial feathures tho they aren't part of the Mustella family.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:22:48am |
re: #424 quickjustice
There are statistical studies of the bias of the media based upon the number of stories on particular topics they report. There's no doubt that they lean left, with the exception of Fox, which leans right. I was most surprised to learn that that Drudge, despite his reputation, actually leans slightly left.
I'm aware of those studies. But they're flawed.
For example-- take a look at the commentators mainstream news shows have on, for any given topic (and there are statistical studies on this as well) -- Republicans outnumber Democrats by a wide margin.
Well, you know the saying-- there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
In my POV, we could revise that (whether we're conservative or lib) to say "there are lies, damned lies, and the media."
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1SG(ret) Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:23:48am |
re: #413 iceweasel
i realise it's heresy on a right leaning blog to point out that the MSM isn't actually liberal, but there you go.
You do mean they aren't liberal enough for most liberals. When any group, right or left vote overwhelmingly one way, it's hard to argue they aren't that way.
Or do you mean they aren't liberal, but Socialist/Socialist leaning?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:24:01am |
Gloria in S Major
Slithering, slathering silly snake
supper of soup or squirrel?
We'll soup the squirrel
or squirrel the soup
with a steamy side dish
of sizzling summer stirfry.
Sunning in the sultry savannah after supper
we'll sit semi-circular
spearing strange spiders
with stolen syringes.
The stars sparkle and shimmer like sequins
on a silver dress of Sharon Stone's
while scientific satellites scan space.
Surrounded by sand and sky
the suburbs seem stupid.
Sticky Sam starts to sing slightly sharp
about skunks while strumming his sitar.
We shout, "Shut up, Sam!"
and suddenly silence sounds.
The shadowy sliver of moon seems similar
to the Cheshire Cat's smile.
The stars and silver sphere sink into space
and at sunrise San's sleeping soundly.
We stand and start to skip over sand dunes
spinning and springing like sprites in Sherwood.
Suddenly we stop, sensing shin splints.
We seek shelter under a shroud-
"A simple summer sand storm, " you say.
"Seems so, " I say super sarcastically.
Smearing snot on our sleeves
we stretch and squish Silly Putty
as the sand storm subdues.
Skittering and sliding down a sand slope
we screech to a stop and see
where Sam is streched sleeping.
Sweaty and stinky, we surrender to sleep
for seven years or six centuries,
who's keeping score?
-Sharmuta
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:25:08am |
re: #420 Sharmuta
OK- I will post the poem. But it will take me a few to type it, so have patience.
poetry is always called for. In my opinion. But I'm a geek like that.
(Just so long as it's not pages of tennyson or something like that; i have a short-ish attention span. But I'll try!)
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rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:25:24am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:25:55am |
I only wrote that because my friend loved the first 6 lines and insisted I do more with it.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:26:18am |
re: #437 Sharmuta
I only wrote that because my friend loved the first 6 lines and insisted I do more with it.
And that's about 15 years old.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:26:41am |
re: #432 1SG(ret)
You do mean they aren't liberal enough for most liberals. When any group, right or left vote overwhelmingly one way, it's hard to argue they aren't that way.
Or do you mean they aren't liberal, but Socialist/Socialist leaning?
Hush, I'm reading Sharmuta's cool poem and looking at Rustler's pics. :) I'll be back to this tho.
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:26:51am |
re: #421 rustler
No. Most of the waste, fraud and abuse is in the Medicaid system. That's because the program is used by labor unions like SEIU 1199 to pad payrolls with unnecessary employees. In New York, the problem is egregious: we have Medicaid expenses much higher than those of more populous states like California and Texas.
In addition, Medicaid was supposed to be a safety net for the poor. In New York, it's been extended to the middle class with disastrous results, financially speaking. It's now one third of the entire state budget.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:27:10am |
re: #425 Spare O'Lake
I'm using this spy posting thing for the first time and notice that the comments are not numbered.
Is this by design?
Yes- there are many answers to questions on the previous thread.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:28:38am |
re: #437 Sharmuta
I only wrote that because my friend loved the first 6 lines and insisted I do more with it.
Wait-- whoa. You wrote that? and you were only 16 when you did?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:30:11am |
re: #442 iceweasel
Yes- I wrote that.
No- I wasn't 16, but I wrote it 15 years ago.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:32:46am |
Adam Gadahn has released a new taped message.
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:34:33am |
Here are the statistics on N.Y.'s exploding Medicaid program:
[Link: www.empirecenter.org...]
[Link: www.manhattan-institute.org...]
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:35:20am |
re: #445 Iron Fist
It's disturbing that he stayed on for almost two more years.
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rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:35:27am |
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1SG(ret) Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:35:31am |
We had a saying while I was in Iraq that went like this: "If you want find the intelligence officers for our enemy, all you have to do is find the person hold a microphone drawing stuff in the sand or just talking".
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:35:39am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:37:20am |
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:39:41am |
Liberal media bias? Here's the website that cover it:
[Link: www.newsbusters.org...]
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:39:43am |
re: #444 Sharmuta
Yes- I wrote that.
No- I wasn't 16, but I wrote it 15 years ago.
You know, it's really good. Really clever.
I don't know if you write (fiction) or if you write poetry (regularly) but you really ought to. Or think about doing so. You clearly have a gift. In my opinion.
I read a lot of poetry. I know I couldn't write it and I wouldn't even try. So...take this for what it's worth: I think you have a gift and you should develop it.
You have the vocab and the metaphor and the imagistic language and thought nailed. The facility with language and the imagination. Just my opinion. I think you'd do great things.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:41:45am |
re: #451 1SG(ret)
We had a saying while I was in Iraq that went like this: "If you want find the intelligence officers for our enemy, all you have to do is find the person hold a microphone drawing stuff in the sand or just talking".
Only funny thing that Wanda Sykes said at the White House Correspondents Dinner was when she said Al Qaeda wouldn't have to waterboard Biden; all they'd have to do is ask him a question.
She said they'd be leaving with the nuclear launch codes and he'd STILL be talking to them and following them trying to give a longer answer.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:42:45am |
re: #456 iceweasel
You are sweet. Thank you for the kind words, but my inner poet died long ago. Now I work on other styles of writing, and I am working on developing that into something more productive, possibly with a paycheck.
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rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:44:45am |
re: #457 iceweasel
Why even bother asking him tho eventually just to show how important he is he will just up and announce em like he did about the VP bunker. You know the one he claims Chaney hid in after 9/11 but construction on said bunker didnt start until November of 2001 if I remember correctly.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:45:52am |
re: #459 Sharmuta
You are sweet. Thank you for the kind words, but my inner poet died long ago. Now I work on other styles of writing, and I am working on developing that into something more productive, possibly with a paycheck.
I wish I were sweet, but alas, not so.
Awesome news though and good luck. I have a couple of friends who do freelance writing (nonfiction) and it's a rough market. :(
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:47:37am |
re: #460 Iron Fist
That it is. I don't trust CNN to report objectively on Santa Claus' regular Christmas Eve flight, let alone something substantive like the weather.
I remember their coverage of Katrina to trust them on the weather.
I remember when he claimed that the military targeted journalists. I hate that he said such nonsense but, it outraged enough people that he had to leave.
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rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:48:04am |
In December 2002, neighbors complained of loud construction work being done at the Naval Observatory, which has been used as a residence by vice presidents since 1974.The upset neighbors were sent a letter by the observatory's superintendent, calling the work "sensitive in nature" and "classified" and that it was urgent it be completed "on a highly accelerated schedule."
Construction was still ongoing in December 2002 apparently from this fox news article. So how was Cheney hiding there in the aftermath of 9/11 2001?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:49:44am |
I also found some of the old joke horoscopes I used to write. Here's one for Capricorn:
Hated radio host Rush Limbaugh is a Capricorn, although some people love him. But he is a lot like you- hard working and determined. So take it to heart- stay determined, work hard, and maybe some day hundreds of people will hate you.
I thought that was funny.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:52:35am |
re: Sharmuta
Gloria in S Major
Slithering, slathering silly snake
supper of soup or squirrel?
We'll soup the squirrel
or squirrel the soup
with a steamy side dish
of sizzling summer stirfry.
Sunning in the sultry savannah after supper
we'll sit semi-circular
spearing strange spiders
with stolen syringes.
The stars sparkle and shimmer like sequins
on a silver dress of Sharon Stone's
while scientific satellites scan space.
Surrounded by sand and sky
the suburbs seem stupid.
Sticky Sam starts to sing slightly sharp
about skunks while strumming his sitar.
We shout, "Shut up, Sam!"
and suddenly silence sounds.
The shadowy sliver of moon seems similar
to the Cheshire Cat's smile.
The stars and silver sphere sink into space
and at sunrise San's sleeping soundly.
We stand and start to skip over sand dunes
spinning and springing like sprites in Sherwood.
Suddenly we stop, sensing shin splints.
We seek shelter under a shroud-
"A simple summer sand storm, " you say.
"Seems so, " I say super sarcastically.
Smearing snot on our sleeves
we stretch and squish Silly Putty
as the sand storm subdues.
Skittering and sliding down a sand slope
we screech to a stop and see
where Sam is streched sleeping.
Sweaty and stinky, we surrender to sleep
for seven years or six centuries,
who's keeping score?-Sharmuta
Sibilant and scrumptious, that.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:53:54am |
re: #461 rustler
Why even bother asking him tho eventually just to show how important he is he will just up and announce em like he did about the VP bunker. You know the one he claims Chaney hid in after 9/11 but construction on said bunker didnt start until November of 2001 if I remember correctly.
I know the right wackosphere got hysterical recently when he mentioned something about there being a bunker in the VP residence.
Yeah. Security breach! because the last place any enemy would look for the VP would be...uh, in the basement of his residence? newsflash.
Oh, and lets not forget that the whole fucking world knew Cheney had a bunker there...ever since his neighbours complained about the underground construction in 2002, as mentioned above:
In December 2002, neighbors complained of loud construction work being done at the Naval Observatory, which has been used as a residence by vice presidents since 1974.
The upset neighbors were sent a letter by the observatory’s superintendent, calling the work “sensitive in nature” and “classified” and that it was urgent it be completed “on a highly accelerated schedule.”
BTW, the hideous treasonous america-hating liberal outlet who reported that back in 2002? That would be Fox News.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:54:33am |
Yoiks, I repeated.
(The spy thingy is on the fritz)
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rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:54:45am |
-- On Jan. 31, 2007 -- the day Biden announced his presidential bid -- the Delaware Senator was roundly criticized for calling Obama "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
Man I'm surprised this didn't earn Biden a seat under the bus I had forgotten about it.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:56:09am |
re: #455 quickjustice
Liberal media bias? Here's the website that cover it:
[Link: www.newsbusters.org...]
yeah. newsbusters isn't neutral, though. :(
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rustler Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:57:09am |
re: #471 iceweasel
September 11th happened in 2001 the neihbor complaints were in '02 Cheney was not in said bunker in 2001.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:58:16am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Ahmadinejad is continuing to act as though he won the election, and the people of Tehran are acting as though he stole the election.
Well, there's a few scenarios that can explain all this, none of them good.
1) Ahmadinejad stole the election with the mullahs blessing;
2) Ahmadinejad stole the election and is concentrating power in himself without regard to the mullahs (keeping Ali Khamenei on as a figurehead to lend legitimacy to his own ruthlessness);
3) Ahmadinejad actually won - and that Tehran isn't all of Iran.
I'm leaning towards the first, with a good dash of the second. Ahmadinejad is ruthless and crazy enough to pursue this kind of action, and the mullahs aren't about to let an election get in the way of their designs.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 5:58:44am |
Amir Taheri has something to say about the Hope Administration:
Barack Obama found it “exciting” and Hillary Clinton saw it as “a positive sign”. Others, like Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former US national security adviser, went further and praised it as a “vibrant democracy”. A variety of useful idiots at home and abroad expressed similar illusions about the Iranian presidential election on Friday.
Tools.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:00:21am |
One week my joke horoscope had a Star Wars theme for Valentine's Day:
Leo: Your agent called, You have an audition at a joint called "Jabba's Palace". But be careful. I hear it's do or die there.
Pisces: Is it me, or is it time for C3-PO to come out of the closet? Poor, poor R2-D2. As a homage, get your favorite little appliance a gift for ♥-day.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:00:32am |
re: #475 Iron Fist
Wow, that is fascinating. i will think about it.
right now I'm struck by the Clavell connection, as i once loved those books. (It's been years but I'd still claim that King Rat is a brilliant book and very revealing of human nature.)
there's also a book about Japan or Japanese culture called iron and silk, isn't there? Maybe by a westerner learning martial arts? (haven't read it, it just sounds familiar...)
(will check out the song on your profile now!)
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:01:09am |
New Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream Flavor
In honor of the 44th President of the United States , Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream has introduced a new flavor: " Barocky Road ."Barocky Road is a blend of half vanilla, half chocolate, and surrounded by nuts and flakes. The vanilla portion of the mix is not openly advertised and usually denied as an ingredient. The nuts and flakes are all very bitter and hard to swallow.
The cost is $100.00 per scoop.
When purchased it will be presented to you in a large beautiful cone, but then the ice cream is taken away and given to the person in line behind you.
You are left with an empty wallet and no change, holding an empty cone with no hope of getting any ice cream.
Are you stimulated?
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:01:26am |
re: #480 Sharmuta
One week my joke horoscope had a Star Wars theme for Valentine's Day:
Leo: Your agent called, You have an audition at a joint called "Jabba's Palace". But be careful. I hear it's do or die there.
Pisces: Is it me, or is it time for C3-PO to come out of the closet? Poor, poor R2-D2. As a homage, get your favorite little appliance a gift for ♥-day.
I am LOVING these horoscopes, they remind me of the horoscopes in the Onion which always crack me up!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:04:04am |
re: #483 iceweasel
I'm glad you're liking them. They were fun to write. Here's another:
Virgo: Being too critical can be harmful to one's karma. After all, nobody likes a critic. Did anyone mourn the loss of Gene Siskle?
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:07:09am |
re: #477 rustler
September 11th happened in 2001 the neihbor complaints were in '02 Cheney was not in said bunker in 2001.
Yes, I know. Sigh.
No one said he was; some news agency mistakenly took Biden's recent comments about the bunker to mean that THIS was where DC was on 9-11. Why? Because people haven't been sure about where Cheney was located on 9-11.
I think there's loads of good criticisms to make of Biden; I don't think this is one of them--or the best one to be making. Just my opinion.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:07:56am |
Aries: Now is the time, here is the place. The planets have never been more ready. But you must act now! Supplies are limited, shipping and handling extra, no CODs.
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:08:04am |
re: #479 Rancher
Many had hoped the exercise would dislodge President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the maverick who has vowed to chase the United States out of the Middle East, wipe Israel off the map and prepare the ground for the hidden imam, Shi’ite Islam’s “end of times” figure of retribution.
Whatta guy.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:08:54am |
re: #486 Iron Fist
It is a movie Iron and Silk. It is interesting. It gets very deep into the cultural differences between Americans and the Chinese. M. Bennson-Levi (sp? :-) recommended it to me some years ago. I enjoyed it. It was a lot different than something by Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris.
that's IT! it was a book first! Mark salzman! [Link: www.amazon.com...]
(havent read it or seen the movie, always heard it was brilliant)
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:09:02am |
re: #486 Iron Fist
It is a movie Iron and Silk. It is interesting. It gets very deep into the cultural differences between Americans and the Chinese. M. Bennson-Levi (sp? :-) recommended it to me some years ago. I enjoyed it. It was a lot different than something by Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris.
I loved Bruce Lee movies, especially the way the bad guys used to run up the bare walls.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:09:31am |
re: #489 Sharmuta
ok that one got favorited too because it's too good.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:10:03am |
I just found a gnat in my coffee-maker's reservoire.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:10:37am |
Also from Taheri:
Officially put at 85%, voter turnout was the highest in Iran’s history. Ahmadinejad won with 63%, collecting more votes than any of his predecessors. The results were arranged to give him a two-thirds majority among all categories of voters – men, women, young and old, poor and middle class, and in all of Iran’s 30 provinces. Whoever wrote the script also made sure that his three rivals, all veterans of the Khomeinist revolution, were roundly defeated even in their respective home towns.
The only way they could have made these results more unbelievable would have been to give him 99% of the vote like Saddam, that other popular M.E. dictator, used to get.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:11:10am |
re: #485 Sharmuta
I'm glad you're liking them. They were fun to write. Here's another:
Virgo: Being too critical can be harmful to one's karma. After all, nobody likes a critic. Did anyone mourn the loss of Gene Siskle?
Roget Ebert?
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:11:33am |
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:11:43am |
re: #494 MandyManners
I just found a gnat in my coffee-maker's reservoire.
What you found was the secret to making a great cup of coffee.
But I find that Beetles give it an even nuttier taste.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:12:21am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:13:11am |
re: #498 karmic_inquisitor
What you found was the secret to making a great cup of coffee.
But I find that Beetles give it an even nuttier taste.
Would mosquitoes give it a metallic taste? (Think about it.)
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:13:44am |
re: MandyManners
Would mosquitoes give it a metallic taste? (Think about it.)
Great for iron deficiencies.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:14:33am |
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:15:55am |
re: #494 MandyManners
I just found a gnat in my coffee-maker's reservoire.
Dat ain't nuttin.
I found a lizard in my coffeemaker several months ago.
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:16:26am |
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:16:39am |
re: #485 Sharmuta
I'm glad you're liking them. They were fun to write. Here's another:
Virgo: Being too critical can be harmful to one's karma. After all, nobody likes a critic. Did anyone mourn the loss of Gene Siskle?
These are so great. I know it's always a Beatles comment with me ;) but the sense of humor reminds me of the Daily Howl, a little newspaper which John Lennon used to write and give to his friends when he was about 15. I love absurd humor!
My favorite line from the Daily Howl: Weather Report: Tomorrow will be Muggy, followed by Tuggy, Wuggy and Thuggy.
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avanti Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:18:07am |
re: #488 iceweasel
Yes, I know. Sigh.
No one said he was; some news agency mistakenly took Biden's recent comments about the bunker to mean that THIS was where DC was on 9-11. Why? Because people haven't been sure about where Cheney was located on 9-11.
I think there's loads of good criticisms to make of Biden; I don't think this is one of them--or the best one to be making. Just my opinion.
Cheney talks about the White House basement bunker he actually went to
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:18:09am |
So how about those Iranian riots?
While I hope that they end up deposing their government, I can see Obama taking victory laps if it happens and somehow saying that his policies brought it about.
I am not petty - I have the same hopes for the Iranians that I had 4 years ago. But I also know that it was the democratization of the Middle East strategy that we had back then is the one that will ultimately deliver results there. Create the expectations among the oppressed and they will rise up.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:18:27am |
re: #503 J.D.
Dat ain't nuttin.
I found a lizard in my coffeemaker several months ago.
What was its nic?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:18:48am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:19:06am |
re: #503 J.D.
Dat ain't nuttin.
I found a lizard in my coffeemaker several months ago.
You promised you wouldn't tell anyone about that!
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:19:18am |
Cash From Lunkheads
Congress wants to pay you to destroy your car.
When we first heard the phrase "cash for clunkers," we thought the reference was to a Congressional pay raise. Alas, no, it is the bright idea out of Congress to pay Americans to turn in their old cars so they'll go out and buy a new one. As columnist George Will recently observed, this isn't as insane as the New Deal policy of slaughtering pigs to raise pork prices, but it's close enough for government work.Under cash for clunkers, drivers would be offered vouchers of up to $4,500 to swap their current wheels for a more environmentally correct set with better mileage. The cars they turn in for destruction would have to get less than 18 miles per gallon, be drivable, and insured to the owner for at least a year.
That last provision is presumably intended to deter political arbitrageurs from raiding used-car lots for trade-in wrecks. But as economic policy, this is still dotty. It encourages Americans to needlessly destroy still useful cars and then misallocates scarce resources from other, perhaps more productive, uses in order to subsidize replacements. By the same logic, we could revive the housing market by paying everyone to burn down their houses to collect the insurance money and build new ones. ...
Unbelievable.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:19:19am |
re: #502 Spare O'Lake
The little bugger is flaunting you.
Git the 12 gauge.
He got ground up in the disposal.
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lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:20:21am |
Morning all.
Chris Dodd was just on my TV whining about something. I guess today must be another day that ends with "y".
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:20:35am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:20:45am |
re: #507 karmic_inquisitor
So how about those Iranian riots?
While I hope that they end up deposing their government, I can see Obama taking victory laps if it happens and somehow saying that his policies brought it about.
I am not petty - I have the same hopes for the Iranians that I had 4 years ago. But I also know that it was the democratization of the Middle East strategy that we had back then is the one that will ultimately deliver results there. Create the expectations among the oppressed and they will rise up.
All I've seen this morning is footage of thousands and thousands of ShortShit's supporters outside some building where he made a speech or something.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:21:01am |
re: #505 Bloodnok
These are so great. I know it's always a Beatles comment with me ;) but the sense of humor reminds me of the Daily Howl, a little newspaper which John Lennon used to write and give to his friends when he was about 15. I love absurd humor!
My favorite line from the Daily Howl: Weather Report: Tomorrow will be Muggy, followed by Tuggy, Wuggy and Thuggy.
The Daily Howl (this is cool)
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:21:56am |
re: #517 Bloodnok
My favorite line from the Daily Howl: Weather Report: Tomorrow will be Muggy, followed by Tuggy, Wuggy and Thuggy.
Sounds like Hugo Chavez's horoscope. And he likes to make sure they come to pass.
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:21:56am |
re: #510 Sharmuta
You promised you wouldn't tell anyone about that!
I've only told 3 people.
No...wait...
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:23:11am |
re: #516 MandyManners
All I've seen this morning is footage of thousands and thousands of ShortShit's supporters outside some building where he made a speech or something.
I would lay money that a shit-load of Iranians disappeared last night.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:23:12am |
re: #511 J.D.
Cash From Lunkheads
Congress wants to pay you to destroy your car.
Unbelievable.
Watermelon.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:23:59am |
re: #505 Bloodnok
You know I don't mind the Beatles stuff.
My BFF was inspired by John's poetry and wrote a poem based off the Alphabet poem he'd written, except in her version "P" was "for the loo". Heehee
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:24:04am |
re: #515 J.D.
I forgot to ask before I banned him.
Wielding a stick in the kitchen? Could be dangerous.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:24:14am |
re: #521 Spare O'Lake
I would lay money that a shit-load of Iranians disappeared last night.
I hope not. But you may well be right.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:26:16am |
re: #518 Rancher
PETA will be contacting you soon.
I'll be sure to set both thermostats to 55 degrees to keep me comfy in my mink which I will wear when I open the door to them.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:27:10am |
re: #523 Sharmuta
You know I don't mind the Beatles stuff.
My BFF was inspired by John's poetry and wrote a poem based off the Alphabet poem he'd written, except in her version "P" was "for the loo". Heehee
You mean the one with "L is for Land because brown"? I looove that. I still think of it often.
I was obsessed with "In His Own Write" at that age too.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:27:27am |
re: #521 Spare O'Lake
I would lay money that a shit-load of Iranians disappeared last night.
There's a crack in there about Eason Jordan but I'll not make it.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:27:49am |
re: #510 Sharmuta
You promised you wouldn't tell anyone about that!
i just found a story about someone finding a snake's head in his dish of broccoli at a TGI Friday's.
(also,TGIF's is in big trouble financially anyway; some impending report claims that 4 restaurant chains arent going to make it til next year; TGIF is one of them)
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:28:15am |
re: MandyManners
All I've seen this morning is footage of thousands and thousands of ShortShit's supporters outside some building where he made a speech or something.
Looks like an Obama rally. Ignorant masses following some bizarre sense of charisma into the void of state oppression in exchange for a sense of moral purification. Smug smiles and tingly legs all around.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:28:19am |
re: #519 lawhawk
Sounds like Hugo Chavez's horoscope. And he likes to make sure they come to pass.
I have a horoscope I wrote with a presidential theme. Maybe I could write one with a Despot theme... I did write one note on that already- kinda:
Leo: Both Castro and Napoleon were/are Leos. That explains the ruling thing. This week find your own little world to conquer. This one's taken.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:28:58am |
re: #526 MandyManners
I'll be sure to set both thermostats to 55 degrees to keep me comfy in my mink which I will wear when I open the door to them.
It's not good to answer the door in your nightie.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:29:10am |
re: #530 karmic_inquisitor
Looks like an Obama rally. Ignorant masses following some bizarre sense of charisma into the void of state oppression in exchange for a sense of moral purification. Smug smiles and tingly legs all around.
I don't get the charisma of ShortShit.
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:29:37am |
re: Sharmuta
I have a horoscope I wrote with a presidential theme. Maybe I could write one with a Despot theme... I did write one note on that already- kinda:
Leo: Both Castro and Napoleon were/are Leos. That explains the ruling thing. This week find your own little world to conquer. This one's taken.
Weren't Hitler and Stalin Taurus?
I am a Taurus, so word your response carefully!
/
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:30:07am |
re: #532 Spare O'Lake
It's not good to answer the door in your nightie.
It depends on who's on the other side of the door.
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:30:08am |
re: #524 MandyManners
Wielding a stick in the kitchen? Could be dangerous.
I always keep a cluebat in the pantry. Don't you?
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:30:11am |
re: #531 Sharmuta
I think Obama is a Leo. Seriously.
the onion had some hilarious fake op-ed during the campaign, "I'm afraid I've forgotten Obama's birthday" or something like that.
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:30:47am |
re: MandyManners
I don't get the charisma of ShortShit.
I never got the charisma of Jimmy Swaggert. Theocrats have an appeal that I don't understand.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:30:57am |
re: #534 karmic_inquisitor
Weren't Hitler and Stalin Taurus?
I am a Taurus, so word your response carefully!
/
I'm a Taurus, and I rule, too.
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:31:03am |
re: #529 iceweasel
They have gone from bad to worse in recent years.
What are the other 3?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:31:28am |
re: #534 karmic_inquisitor
Weren't Hitler and Stalin Taurus?
I am a Taurus, so word your response carefully!
/
Hitler, yes. Stalin, no. But rest assured- Hitler had the ugliest moon sign one can have.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:31:33am |
re: #531 Sharmuta
ShortShit was born on 10/26. What's he?
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:31:52am |
re: #532 Spare O'Lake
It's not good to answer the door in your nightie.
Says who?
Kind of varies, no? :)
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:31:53am |
re: #521 Spare O'Lake
CNN has been reporting that opposition figures have been arrested. The fate of Mousavi is not known -- where is he? Is he under house arrest? (he was a "no-show" at some rally)...Is he under detention? No one seems to know...
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:31:58am |
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:32:14am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:32:30am |
re: #538 karmic_inquisitor
I never got the charisma of Jimmy Swaggert. Theocrats have an appeal that I don't understand.
Swaggert was charismatic?
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:32:39am |
re: #537 iceweasel
I think Obama is a Leo. Seriously.
the onion had some hilarious fake op-ed during the campaign, "I'm afraid I've forgotten Obama's birthday" or something like that.
Ding ding ding ding ding!
August 4.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:33:00am |
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:33:02am |
re: J.S.
CNN has been reporting that opposition figures have been arrested. The fate of Mousavi is not known -- where is he? Is he under house arrest? (he was a "no-show" at some rally)...Is he under detention? No one seems to know...
Obama to swipe away such facts and speak of "the importance of keeping a dialog" in 3 ... 2 ...
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brucee Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:33:17am |
Corriere Della Sera Reporter in Tehran - Police vs. People
I love this clip. "Death to Dictator"
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:33:31am |
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:33:33am |
Cheery news for the day. North Korea is threatening nuclear war if it doesn't get its way.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:34:22am |
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:34:25am |
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:34:47am |
re: #542 MandyManners
ShortShit was born on 10/26. What's he?
He has his own star sign "Runtius: the Short Limbed". There are no stars in the constellation Runtius, just a gas cloud and a black hole.
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:34:53am |
re: MandyManners
Swaggert was charismatic?
I knew people who just loved the guy along with Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye.
Never understood the appeal.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:35:58am |
Good morning y'all - from a warm and humid (74 degrees going up to 88 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte! Hope all is well with everyone today.
BTW, today is Flag Day and if you've a mind to, putting out the Flag wouldn't be a bad idea at all!
And today is the birthday of the United States Army (June 14, 1775) Happy Birthday Army!
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:36:03am |
re: #550 J.D.
Ding ding ding ding ding!
August 4.
I feel oddly, and mildly, relieved that I didn't know when his bday was.
Area Man Just Realized He Doesn't Even Know When Barack Obama's Birthday Is
ATHENS, GA—Local barista Benjamin Shields, 31, expressed both shock and remorse Monday when, during a routine perusal of his 2009 calendar, it suddenly occurred to him that he had never bothered to find out the date of President Barack Obama's birth. "Mostly, I'm just really embarrassed," Shields said. "The first black president in U.S. history, a person I myself voted for, and I don't even know what month he was born? God, I'd be mortified if he ever found out." Shields said he would console himself by making sure to purchase a card well in advance of Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack's Dec. 12 birthday.
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:36:06am |
re: #521 Spare O'Lake
I would lay money that a shit-load of Iranians disappeared last night.
I'm afraid your right. I can't see any other reason for Khamenei letting Mousavi run the campaign he did and not let him win other than to bring out the dissidents into the streets so that they can be identified and crushed.
re: #404 Rancher
•Mousavi and Karrubi, the two “reformist” candidates in Friday’s “elections” are under house arrest, along with dozens of their followers;
•“Reformist” journalists and activists have been rounded up and jailed;
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:36:13am |
re: #559 Bloodnok
He has his own star sign "Runtius: the Short Limbed". There are no stars in the constellation Runtius, just a gas cloud and a black hole.
LOL!
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:36:18am |
re: lawhawk
Cheery news for the day. North Korea is threatening nuclear war if it doesn't get its way.
But it is wrong to call them "evil" or to declare an "axis of evil".
Same goes for DinnerJacket.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:36:39am |
re: #560 karmic_inquisitor
I knew people who just loved the guy along with Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye.
Never understood the appeal.
They liked being dupes?
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:36:47am |
re: #552 karmic_inquisitor
Ahmadinejad is challenging Obama to "a debate" at the United Nations (lol)...Ahmadinejad was also yakking about "dialogue." (Wonder if Ahmadinejad will be using the expression: "Unclench your fist, America!") (This morning Ahmadinejad gave a rambling "press conference" in which he assured everyone that Iran is a nation of "laws" and is the "most secure" -- translation: repressive -- nation in the Middle East.)
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:37:41am |
re: #560 karmic_inquisitor
Well, for an unbelievably low price of $19.95, I can fill you in on those details. /
Seriously, I think it's the whole carnival barker/pitchmen thing.
Pitchmen can sell anything. Those folks sold religious fulfillment. It's powerful stuff. Ahmadinejad fits that bill, and he's the most dangerous sort - because he's looking to fulfill his own religious and ideological goals - with an apocalyptic intent.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:38:28am |
re: #560 karmic_inquisitor
I knew people who just loved the guy along with Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye.
Never understood the appeal.
Tammy Faye had a huge set of eyelashes on her.
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:39:01am |
re: #563 iceweasel
Fortunately, I had to google.
Unfortunately, I'll think of him every time my sister in law has a birthday.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:39:11am |
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:39:31am |
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:39:47am |
re: #567 MandyManners
They liked being dupes?
probably!
There is a (recentish) documentary about Tammy Faye Bakker called "the eyes of tammy faye" or something like that-- it's filmed after she left and divorced Jim Bakker, after having stood by him.
I'd like to see it. I love good documantaries. Especially about people I can't otherwise understand.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:40:28am |
re: #568 J.S.
He's busy claiming that the unrest is due to Western actions to bring Iranian society into a frothing mass. He blames the violence on the West, and it'll carry weight outside Tehran, where his power base was.
And I really wish everyone would stop calling Mousavi a reformer. It does not mean what they think it means.
Khatami was a reformer.
Rafsanjani was a reformer.
Ahmadinejad was a reformer.
Heck, Ayatollah Khomeni was a reformer - just looking to re-form Iranian society as a religious theocracy in the Islamofascist image.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:40:31am |
re: #571 Spare O'Lake
Tammy Faye had a huge set of eyelashes on her.
The best money could buy.
Remember how she said she got up early every morning to put her make up on before Jim could see her? Didn't she say it was the duty of every wife to do the same?
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:41:03am |
re: #458 Iron Fist
IIRC, TennCare almost bankrupted the state. (B/T/W, I lived in Nashville during the late 1970s and early '80s.)
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:41:17am |
re: #575 iceweasel
probably!
There is a (recentish) documentary about Tammy Faye Bakker called "the eyes of tammy faye" or something like that-- it's filmed after she left and divorced Jim Bakker, after having stood by him.
I'd like to see it. I love good documantaries. Especially about people I can't otherwise understand.
I'd forgotten she booted him to the curb. My respect for her just shot up.
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:41:37am |
re: MandyManners
FCBBHO was born on 8/4. Leo?
Well then. I will now put my future-telling abilities to work...
I see a cloudy mist. Ahhh. But something is coming to the fore ... yes ... children in the streets playing ... people laughing ... all is well as everyone smiles ... portraits of the same man hang everywhere ... a secret police ... behind all of the smiles is a great tension ... the tension of having you neighbour inform on you if you turn up your thermostat or let your tires lose pressure ...
Oh ... and 8/4 is a Federal Holiday.
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:42:09am |
re: #562 {realwest}
Mornin' real. I'll bet we have more humidity than you do!
Thanks for the reminder of Flag Day.
And Happy Birthday Army! Gemini!
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:42:42am |
re: #578 MandyManners
The best money could buy.
Remember how she said she got up early every morning to put her make up on before Jim could see her? Didn't she say it was the duty of every wife to do the same?
That didn't work out so well...
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:43:21am |
re: #583 J.D.
{J.D.} good morning and I'd be glad to let you win that bet!
How are you doing today?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:43:36am |
re: #581 karmic_inquisitor
Well then. I will now put my future-telling abilities to work...
I see a cloudy mist. Ahhh. But something is coming to the fore ... yes ... children in the streets playing ... people laughing ... all is well as everyone smiles ... portraits of the same man hang everywhere ... a secret police ... behind all of the smiles is a great tension ... the tension of having you neighbour inform on you if you turn up your thermostat or let your tires lose pressure ...
Oh ... and 8/4 is a Federal Holiday.
*curling up into fetal position*
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:43:39am |
re: #577 lawhawk
Thinking or claiming that Mousavi is some kind of Jeffersonian democrat is ludicrous. Mousavi opposes Ahamdinejad -- but that doesn't mean, for example, that Mousavi would ever question Iran's getting nukes.
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:43:54am |
re: #585 MandyManners
How many dictators were/are Leo?
Well, I'm on the cusp of Leo and Virgo...for one.
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1SG(ret) Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:44:03am |
lawhawk, any chance this ruling will be overturned
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karmic_inquisitor Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:44:04am |
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:44:50am |
re: #586 realwest
Pretty well! The kids and granddaughter are here and still asleep, as I would like to have been...*sigh*
How goes it?
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:45:08am |
re: #561 MandyManners
Kim Jong-il was born 2/16.
Good grief. My wife was born 2/16. That explains a lot -
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:45:39am |
re: #560 karmic_inquisitor
I knew people who just loved the guy along with Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye.
Never understood the appeal.
it's all about the hair...lots of big poofy hair
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:45:43am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:46:21am |
re: #589 J.D.
Well, I'm on the cusp of Leo and Virgo...for one.
Do you have a strange attraction to riding crops?
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:47:06am |
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:47:20am |
re: #577 lawhawk
Upon reflection, I think what's happening in Iran is an internal party struggle similar to what happened when Lenin purged the Bolsheviks. This is the theocrats fighting among themselves. No genuinely democratic parties are represented in this particular struggle.
That's what make the left's fascination with the current situation in Iran so amusing-- they really think it's Ahmadinejad versus the good guys. It's Ahmadinejad against a more cheerful theocrat.
In that respect, Ahmadinejad's "victory", rigged or not, is good news for us. It keeps the crazy face of the mullahs in the public eye where it belongs.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:47:24am |
Look for Ahmadinejad to open up relations with the Obama administration since Obama said in Egypt that it's OK for Iran to pursue nuclear technology
."No single nation should pick and choose which nations should hold nuclear weapons"
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:47:28am |
re: #570 lawhawk
Well, for an unbelievably low price of $19.95, I can fill you in on those details. /
Seriously, I think it's the whole carnival barker/pitchmen thing.
Pitchmen can sell anything. Those folks sold religious fulfillment. It's powerful stuff. Ahmadinejad fits that bill, and he's the most dangerous sort - because he's looking to fulfill his own religious and ideological goals - with an apocalyptic intent.
Sure. America has a long tradition of loving the carnival barker, and also loving certain kinds of religious fulfillment-- and of course we worship the salesman, the pitch. I don't mean this as a bad thing.
But it is a peculiarly american kind of attraction-- we have this faith and love for the idea of eternal renewal. reinvention. In large part because as a nation we're all about reinvention and the idea of equal opportunity, the idea that anyone can achieve anything-- we're all engaged in reinvention, and that's why the quintessential classics of american lit are about reinvention, and its limits and its enduring appeal, romance, and mythology-- think of the great gatsby.
Those same qualities of faith and hope and belief in renewal-- make us peculiarly prone to the huckster, the carnival barker, the pitch.
It;s kind of our blessing and our downfall, in my opinion.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:48:04am |
re: #594 J.D.
It goes. Gotta go out and do some chores today that Mom thought about this morning! I WAS looking forward to a quiet Sunday but alas, such is not to be for me!
How old is your granddaughter?
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:48:55am |
re: #577 lawhawk
Another thing I wonder about -- about those "opposition" figures -- who are they? I've heard that some of the opposition figures who were arrested were clerics. (Much of the confusion in the West, I suspect, comes from not clearly understanding how religiously grounded Iranians are -- and the tendency to project secular ideas onto Iran. Again, I wonder if the "opposition" to Ahmadinejad has more to do with Ahmadinejad being a Twelver than it does with secular politics..)
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:49:10am |
re: #590 1SG(ret)
lawhawk, any chance this ruling will be overturned
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:49:23am |
re: #603 realwest
She's 3, and sharp as a tack!
Takes after her Gigi...
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:49:31am |
re: #590 1SG(ret)
Good morning Top! Good to see you out here as always! How are you doing today?
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:49:52am |
re: #590 1SG(ret)
Always a chance. I suspect that case might go all the way to the US Supreme Court. And the fact is that none of these detainees were tortured.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:50:01am |
re: #595 legalpad
Good grief. My wife was born 2/16. That explains a lot -
Oh, dear me. I shouldn't laugh but, I am.
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:50:18am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:50:28am |
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:50:35am |
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:50:54am |
re: #607 J.D. LOL! Well ok, then, more directly, how early did she get y'all up?!
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:51:17am |
re: #577 lawhawk
And I really wish everyone would stop calling Mousavi a reformer.
I try and always put it in quotes. I'm glad he lost, he would have put a false face on the regime, Ahmadinejad is nothing if not genuine. (I almost said honest.)
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:51:57am |
re: #604 J.S.
Since 1979, Iran has been a theocracy, the first in the history of Islam. That means the clergy are in charge.
Clerical supporters are"religious", of course, but this is far more about temporal power than religious belief.
Iranian youth, who now constitute half the population of the country, are anti-clerical and pro-American. Unfortunately, no indigenous revolutionary movement has succeeded in recent history without outside help.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:52:22am |
re: #615 Rancher
I try and always put it in quotes. I'm glad he lost, he would have put a false face on the regime, Ahmadinejad is nothing if not genuine. (I almost said honest.)
Well, Mousavi's wife is a hoot.
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:52:27am |
re: #614 realwest
I beat her by an hour and a half!
'course we did keep her out a little too late...
There are horses galloping across my desk!
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:52:44am |
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Ateam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:53:39am |
re: #503 J.D.
Dat ain't nuttin.
I found a lizard in my coffeemaker several months ago.
I have a regular Lizard visits at my window. Every evening 8 PM sharp. With the TV news. Named her SARA (from Alaska - in hope she will bring changes to weather - 95 F).
Very small, 7" from head to tale, and delicate, last week I bought for her a Flies Trap. Need to nourish her with Protein & Minerals.
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:54:18am |
re: #616 quickjustice
I am extremely skeptical about all that "they're Young! They're pro-American!" Nah... tell me another one.
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:54:24am |
Morning everyone! waiting patiently for coffee...it's almost done
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:54:39am |
re: #621 Ateam
That's cool!
It's baby lizard time here. You talk about cute...
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:56:22am |
re: #625 momcat
Thank you! Wish I had more to offer in return than an upding = )
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J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:56:54am |
Well, it looks as though Gigi is on duty now!
Y'all have fun and play nice!
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:56:58am |
re: #604 J.S.
*ding*! Yes, alot of the consternation about Ahmadinejad is that he's a believer in the apocalyptic visions of the 12th Mahdi. It's a minority view within the minority community that is Shi'ism. That Iran wants nukes doesn't bother most Iranians. That he's confronting the US doesn't bother them either. For most Iranians, that's all they've ever known (US/Israel are the Satans). Genocidal rhetoric isn't beyond the pale either, and Iran routinely calls for the destruction of Israel and the US. That they are now on the cusp of having the means to do so makes this regime all the more dangerous.
It's also dangerous to ascribe to this election any meaningful change in direction on foreign policy since the President of Iran answers to the Supreme Ayatollah under the Iranian constitution, not the other way around. The mullahs run the show - or at least did until yesterday's election.
My best guess is that the mullahs wanted Ahmadinejad to win, and that's what they got.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:57:02am |
re: #600 quickjustice
Upon reflection, I think what's happening in Iran is an internal party struggle similar to what happened when Lenin purged the Bolsheviks. This is the theocrats fighting among themselves.
The E.U. block (Rafsanjani et all) vs. the Russian block (Khamenei and Ahmadinejad).
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:57:07am |
re: #622 J.S.
Hmmm. I ddi my senior thesis on Iran and the politics of the Persian Gulf. I did study the youth phenomenon in Iran. The mullahs keep the kids under control by letting them wear American style clothes, play western music-- cultural things. They crack down occasionally when the politics demand that the kids be taught a lesson.
And your basis for calling me a liar is what ?
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:58:06am |
re: #622 J.S.
I am extremely skeptical about all that "they're Young! They're pro-American!" Nah... tell me another one.
They don't have to be pro-American for me to want to support them. It's the pro-Freedom part that puts me behind their cause.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:58:34am |
re: #609 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk - I agree with your assessment, but was left scratching my head at this part of the Judge's decision:
"This lawsuit poses the question addressed by our founding fathers about how to strike the proper balance of fighting a war against terror, at home and abroad, and fighting a war using tactics of terror."
Cause, ya know, during the Revolutionary War, under the "rules of war" then extant, WE were the terrorists - rebelling from Great Britain and we used terrorist tactics of hiding while firing at the enemy (British Troops, their Loyalist Allies and some of the Indian Tribes who were bought by the British). Not to mention imprisoning Loyalists (sometimes entire families) and confiscating their property.
Do you have any idea of what he was talking about?
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 6:59:49am |
re: #630 quickjustice
I ddi my senior thesis on Iran and the politics of the Persian Gulf
What in the world made you pick that?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:00:10am |
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:01:07am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:01:20am |
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:01:21am |
re: #600 quickjustice
I don't think it's good news or bad news.
It's just news. The facts speak for themselves. Iran's led by a mullahocracy and their public face is a Holocaust denying hate-spewing gasbag whose intentions are to finish the job that Hitler started by obtaining nukes and the means to use them on Israel and the US and our interests in the Middle East and around the world.
The alternative would have been different - not better, because if it was going to be better, we would have heard something as to Mousavi's foreign policies, but the focus was on improving the economy through internal measures, not by dropping its war on Israel, the US and the West.
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:01:25am |
re: #630 quickjustice
What? I'm not "calling you a liar" -- for heaven's sake, let's not become hysterical here -- we have a difference of opinion. Are you familiar with Shirin Ebadi? She won the Nobel Peace prize. Then she wrote a book explaining how much she detests the West, Western meddling in Iranian affairs, etc., etc. There's a wiki article.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:01:53am |
ACK. It's 10 AM and I need to make something out of the day. Gonna go for a run. Later!
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:02:06am |
Fox is reporting that more riots are breaking out.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:03:10am |
re: #616 quickjustice
... Unfortunately, no indigenous revolutionary movement has succeeded in recent history without outside help.
I think the Iranians held out hope in Bushitlercheny coming to their rescue. With Obama they realize they are now on their own.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:03:15am |
re: #638 lawhawk
I don't think it's good news or bad news.
It's just news. The facts speak for themselves. Iran's led by a mullahocracy and their public face is a Holocaust denying hate-spewing gasbag whose intentions are to finish the job that Hitler started by obtaining nukes and the means to use them on Israel and the US and our interests in the Middle East and around the world.
The alternative would have been different - not better, because if it was going to be better, we would have heard something as to Mousavi's foreign policies, but the focus was on improving the economy through internal measures, not by dropping its war on Israel, the US and the West.
That's the most concise description of ShortShit that I've ever read.
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:03:21am |
re: #611 J.D.
Brilliant.
Oh hey-- in re: the Padilla lawsuit-- My understanding is that not only has Yoo's defense been rejected (by which I mean the lawsuit isn't being dismissed, it has to go through) -- but it's just been ruled that John Yoo has to testify.
It's worth noting that Padilla isn't suing for $ -- as far as I know.
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
Yoo argued that, as a government official, he was immune to such lawsuits. He didn’t personally participate in Padilla’s treatment and decisions about the government’s conduct during war should be decided by the president and Congress, he said.
Padilla asked for $1 in damages and court order declaring his treatment illegal and unconstitutional.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:04:44am |
Fox is saying that Gadahn discusses his Jewish ancestry in his newest tape.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:05:30am |
re: #633 realwest
Beats me, since our Founding Fathers had to put down Shays' Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion and fractured interstate politics. They weren't exactly pulling out the comfy chair.
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1SG(ret) Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:05:32am |
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:05:39am |
re: #628 lawhawk
I think that most Iranians are pro-American, clerical supporters excepted. The mullahs have cast the nuclear weapons issue as one of national sovereignty and pride, with some success.
You're correct about Ahmadinejad's religious zeal, although I don't think the second coming of the 12th Imam is a minority view within the Shiite community, itself a minority within Islam. (Think second coming of Jesus Christ for a very rough analogy). It's a fundamental theological difference from Sunni Islam. The notion of a second coming is politically dangerous, because it presents the possibility that G-d Himself will intervene directly in human affairs in the near future. To true believers, that's a basis for activism in and of itself.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:07:55am |
re: #644 iceweasel
Good morning. "Padilla asked for $1 in damages and court order declaring his treatment illegal and unconstitutional." Which, in the unlikely event Padilla should win, would probably result in his sentence being shortened to time served if not totally abrogated, followed by a lawsuit for damages against the US Government (I doubt Prof. Yoo has enough dough to make it worth Padilla's lawyers' while to go after him personally).
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:08:13am |
re: #645 MandyManners
Fox is saying that Gadahn discusses his Jewish ancestry in his newest tape.
Mandy-- is he the AQ guy who is american and has a jewish grandfather?
I saw an article about this that guy last night; his new AQ tape talks about his grandfather--same guy?
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:08:16am |
re: #590 1SG(ret)
This one's going up. It looks like a classic case of qualified immunity, where the judge has drawn the line on the side of the terrorist, failing to protect the government lawyer. Despite its flaky reputation, I'd be surprised if the Ninth Circuit doesn't reverse.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:08:50am |
re: #646 lawhawk
Ah, thanks - I thought I had early onset senility going for a moment there! Instead its the Judge who may have it.
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Gang of One Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:08:56am |
Good morning all!
Had to look this up:
Mao Zedong -- Snake. For Chinese astrologers it is interesting that Mao was born on the year of Snake in 1893 and died in the year of the Dragon in 1976. A snake is considered to be a "little dragon".
Mao was born on Dec. 26, 1893 and died on Sept. 9, 1976.
He was a Capricorn
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:09:28am |
re: #650 iceweasel
Mandy-- is he the AQ guy who is american and has a jewish grandfather?
I saw an article about this that guy last night; his new AQ tape talks about his grandfather--same guy?
I believe so.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:10:13am |
re: #648 quickjustice
I have to disagree with your premise that most Iranians are pro-American. What's the basis for that assessment? The Islamic Revolution has been in charge for 30 years and has thoroughly indoctrinated the people of the country in that time. It's all that the youngest generation that is politically aware have ever known.
There's no reason to believe that the youngest generation is pro-American. It's nothing more than wishful thinking. You can hope for that assessment to be true, but there's no evidence to suggest it to be the case.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:11:59am |
re: #650 iceweasel
He's the first American to be charged with treason in more than 50 years (Tomoya Kawakita being the last).
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:12:00am |
Well y'all, since I do have to leave LOTS earlier today than I'd like, I'm going to post The List Now.
Anyone who see's changes that should be made, or additions or deletions, please contact me by e-mail.
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:12:22am |
re: #639 J.S.
"Tell me another one" isn't suggesting a whopping lie? Right.
Ebadi is a lawyer working within the Iranian theocracy. She's one of them. Her Nobel Peace Prize? About as impressive as the ones awarded to Jimmy Carter, Arafat, and Gore. The Nobel Committee is impressed because she spoke out ineffectively against oppression of women and others. The Iranian authorities know that she's harmless. If she were effective, she'd be dead or in prison.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:12:48am |
re: #658 realwest
Well y'all, since I do have to leave LOTS earlier today than I'd like, I'm going to post The List Now.
Anyone who see's changes that should be made, or additions or deletions, please contact me by e-mail.
you da man Realwest
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Millicent Islam Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:13:28am |
re: #649 realwest
Good morning. "Padilla asked for $1 in damages and court order declaring his treatment illegal and unconstitutional." Which, in the unlikely event Padilla should win, would probably result in his sentence being shortened to time served if not totally abrogated, followed by a lawsuit for damages against the US Government (I doubt Prof. Yoo has enough dough to make it worth Padilla's lawyers' while to go after him personally).
hey RW, good morning! I hope you had a good night, even if you didn't sleep.
Obv Padilla is looking for time served/to shorten sentence.
i don't know if he'll bother to sue the govt for damages should he win this. Maybe, maybe not.
(he'd likely just sell his lifestory to the Lifetime network, no? or a Brit tabloid? )
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:14:13am |
Lizard Prayer List 6/14/09
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope
Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.
Part 1 of 3:
Community issues:
Blessing and protection over all of us during these times.
Our government
Our troops
Israel
Georgia/Ossetia
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice
Thanksgivings
mikeymom: sister recovering from a stroke; D-i-L’s stepdad – throat cancer; and
son of a good friend-50 yrs old- having 1/3 of face removed and reconstructed next week-cancer.
Uncle Rancher: 17-year-old nephew had treatment for melanoma
Afrocity Brown: outpatient surgery went very well
bbuddha: mother-in-law doing much better
HoosierHoops: son Jordan deployed to Japan instead of Afghanistan & grandchild on the way
Vxbush: health issues diagnosed
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans
Irish Rose – Son doing ok and out of danger from illness; automobile problems resolved.
MNSnowlizard - No need for further heart surgery, prayers for her and her family’s good health
[continued]
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:14:54am |
Part 2 of 3:
Health issues:
Mikeymom: husband’s cousin's hubby just diagnosed w/lung and brain cancer
Doppelganglander: son
loppyd: Brother’s knee injury and future m-i-l’s broken hip.
vagabond trader: friend’s mother fighting cancer
littleoldlady: talloldman
Pietr: Aunt Doris in hospital with poor prognosis; b-i-l Roscoe undergoing Chemotherapy
J.D.: diagnosed friend's son as having a Glioma
Doppelganglander: Passing of sister, best friend Cindy diagnosed with MS
NY Nana: son-in-law’s mum, recovering from amputation
CapeCoddah: boss John R
Iron Fist: diabetes not improving
yma o hyd: glaucoma; may need surgery; arthritis
ArmyWife: FIL just diagnosed with leukemia; good friend’s daughter dealing with issues.
UberInfidel67 and other Lizards who are trying to quit smoking
Chicago Blonde: friend battling cancer
Macker: health issues and treatment
Hoppes: has sick children, lost her MIL, and is very stressed
UberInfidel67: brother’s health after polyps removal
Aussiemagpie: children with health issues
Walter Cronanty: son with recurrence of leukemia & recovering from bone marrow transplant.
logboy: recovery from injuries received in combat in Iraq
gettinby: sister diagnosed with Sjogren’s Syndrome
Knitwit: niece Elizabeth has a nasty MRSA infection after orthopedic surgery
tfc3rid: gf's 89 year old grandmother (suffered a large stroke and is in rehab) and her uncle who is suffering from throat cancer; and continued prayers for dad who has MS
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain, having gone from bad to worse
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
/cont’d
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:14:57am |
There is a guy on discovery channel cutting veggies with playing cards...kinda cool
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:15:07am |
Lizard Prayer List, cont’d:
Family, friend, and life situations:
Fat Bastard Vegetarian – Mother’s cancer has returned
Kawfytawk: the Springle family, who lost their father in Iraq.
Dustyvet: sudden loss of sister
loppyd: friend’s personal problems
Kawfytawk: caring for father
Teacake: emotional healing
BaseballMom57: husband’s passing; prayers for especially for their children.
ChildofMary: passing of husband, ElderZionist
US Beast: passing of mother
Vxbush: Lesion on Liver near vein, MRI scheduled; and one Lizard friend dealing with big issues
Army Green since '92: post has lost three soldiers in Afghanistan;
yma o hyd: death of dear friend Annie; ease the grief of friend who lost her husband of 59 years
Taqiyyotomist: strength in difficult times
FBV: that the unknowns find fulfillment
Vxbush: daughter’s financial issues
Yochanan: son in IDF
Bcgirl: sponsored child, Alia in Egypt
Wyatt Earp: Uncle Joe; prostate cancer returned
West Texas: brother’s decision
Victor_yugo: job
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: mom home from the hospital but may be regressing
A Kiwi Infidel: Natasha and her husband mourning the loss of the younger child.
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Asperger’s (mild autism)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
jcm: new 7th month foster daughter (previous foster daughter went to live with her grandma)
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Coz: Brother in law and wife in horrible motorcycle accident; wife passed away.
Pvt Bin Jammin – BIL’s son has Liver Cancer
soxfan4life – Uncle had heart attack, undergoing by-pass surgery
Sharmuta - Grandfather in hospital – blood poisoning
Lizards with family issues
Irish Rose: Lost job
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
Dianna: - mother- best possible outcome is hoped for.
GotC: strength for kids and her dealing with EH.
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general
In Memoriam
Dublin(CA)Dude
USMC 1968
ElderZion
Obi Wan
All our Troops who have died protecting our Freedom and their families.
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justdanny Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:16:21am |
Raising hell still going on at just before daybreak this morning.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:18:19am |
I believe the average Iranian youth is more pro-American than the average US college professor. Those friendly Iranians
Everywhere I've gone in Iran, with one exception, people have been exceptionally friendly and fulsome in their praise for the United States, and often for President Bush as well. Even when I was detained a couple of days ago in the city of Isfahan for asking a group of young people whether they thought the Islamic revolution had been a mistake (they did), the police were courteous and let me go after an apology.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:18:23am |
re: #666 justdanny
Raising hell still going on at just before daybreak this morning.
Are you the Lizard who lost contact with friends in Iran yesterday? (Either way, please pardon my sketchy memory.)
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:18:32am |
re: #659 quickjustice
If a reporter alleges that "J Street people are Lovers of Zion!" -- and I say, "tell me another one." That does not, repeat *not*, translate into my alleging that "The reporter is a Liar!" It means that I don't believe the message that "J Street people are Lovers of Zion." Do you see the difference here? Anyway, I don't "buy" the message that the younger generation of Iranians are "pro-American." I believe that to be a misinterpretation.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:18:37am |
re: #664 srb1976
There is a guy on discovery channel cutting veggies with playing cards...kinda cool
eh ,,, whenever I play cards there's lots of spilled drinks, cigarette ashes and other sundry debris on the card table.
Not sure if I would eat a carrot after it was sliced with the Ace of Spadesd
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:19:23am |
re: #655 lawhawk
Check out their clothes, their jeans, their music, their taste in motion pictures, their skateboards, their digital devices, their cellphones, their websites, and in all things American culturally. That's the best visual evidence. This is not a group of pious young Iranians solemnly tramping off to mosque.
Culturally, they think American stuff is cool. They may believe that nuclear weapons are a matter of national pride, but so does Obama.
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:20:25am |
re: #670 sattv4u2
I like the super slow motion video...makes even simple things look neat
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:21:30am |
re: #671 quickjustice
Check out their clothes, their jeans, their music, their taste in motion pictures, their skateboards, their digital devices, their cellphones, their websites, and in all things American culturally. That's the best visual evidence. This is not a group of pious young Iranians solemnly tramping off to mosque.
Culturally, they think American stuff is cool. They may believe that nuclear weapons are a matter of national pride, but so does Obama.
Does love of our culture translate into love of our politics?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:21:50am |
re: #671 quickjustice
Check out their clothes, their jeans, their music, their taste in motion pictures, their skateboards, their digital devices, their cellphones, their websites, and in all things American culturally. That's the best visual evidence. This is not a group of pious young Iranians solemnly tramping off to mosque.
Culturally, they think American stuff is cool. They may believe that nuclear weapons are a matter of national pride, but so does Obama.
and we've been told for over three decades now that the Iranian youth loves all things western, and that the academics have been prodding those same youth to uprise. Three decades. I pray that this uprising produces results, and I pray for the safety of the protesters. But after 3 plus decades I am not optomistic
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1SG(ret) Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:22:42am |
Got to go catch a plane!
Going to see my sweetie soon! "YAHOO"
Have a good day all!
Top out
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:23:14am |
In Minneapolis, the City Council voted recently to spend $2 million in stimulus funds on a vacant 99-year-old theater that developers want to convert into a center for dance. The project would create about 48 permanent jobs, city documents indicate.
In the competition for the limited stimulus money, the council awarded less than $300,000 to a company that wants to open a solar-energy-panel manufacturing plant that would create 360 jobs by 2011, according to city records.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
lunatics in freefall
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:23:44am |
re: #656 taxfreekiller
Good morning TFK - my friend - then why did you post at #270 on that thread:
If a coward truck driver did run over a kid to save his own neck,
the company E-5's and the Sgt. Major would Court Marshall his ass
and to Leavenworth he would go.flat ass fast too, also
?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:23:55am |
re: #675 1SG(ret)
Got to go catch a plane!
Going to see my sweetie soon! "YAHOO"
Have a good day all!
Top out
pack extra vitamins!
Have a great and safe trip!
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lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:25:01am |
re: #674 sattv4u2
Yup. They were wearing Mickey Mouse shirts and drinking Coca-Cola back in the '80s and those people are now 20+ years older and probably the ones doing the oppressing. Their fondness for mass produced American culture is a nice little side story about Iranians, but it has never had any impact that I can discern
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:25:29am |
re: #673 MandyManners
They understand American politics the way the Chinese kids understood it at Tiananmen Square-- at a very basic level. It's more American ideals than politics. That said, they are misinformed about current events because of a government-controlled media that has destroyed all satellite dishes except those approved by the government.
I repeat: I believe Iranian youth are fundamentally pro-American. That doesn't mean they can overthrow the regime by themselves. Pro-democracy activists in Iran need help.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:26:00am |
re: #675 1SG(ret)
Hey Top - sorry you missed my comment and apparently my e-mail from yesterday.
Have a safe flight.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:26:43am |
re: #682 realwest
Hey Top - sorry you missed my comment and apparently my e-mail from yesterday.
Have a safe flight.
Good Morning RealWest!
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:26:52am |
re: #616 quickjustice
Since 1979, Iran has been a theocracy, the first in the history of Islam. That means the clergy are in charge.
Theocracy isn't characterized by the rule of priests. Under that definition Calvinist Geneva or the Puritan Colonies wouldn't have met the standards of a theocracy. Neither would have the Israelites who were the theocrats that the Greeks first coined the term on.
Theonomic Shari'a law and the adherence to a relatively mainstream Islamic theology that puts the literal word of God as the sole source of human ethics is what makes Iran a theocracy, not the dictatorship being in the hands of a cleric.
Surely Saudi Arabia today pays as much heed, if not more than Iran does, to the Qur'an as the source of their law. Both Iran and Saudi Arabia have auxilliary secular laws and lawmaking bodies. Saudi Arabia also has royalty which is more consistent with the Qur'an's model of rulership of a land, since it does mention following the authority of Kings but not to Parliament.
In addition, even if you discounted Shari'a and theology being the source of law for the land being the qualifier for characterizing Islamic theocracies, you'd still be left with the Medina under the rule of Mohammad himself as the very first Islamic theocracy.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:27:32am |
re: #683 HoosierHoops
Hey, good morning Hoops - glad to see your vacation isn't taking away ALL of your LGF time!
How ya doing today?
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:28:59am |
re: #685 realwest
Hey, good morning Hoops - glad to see your vacation isn't taking away ALL of your LGF time!
How ya doing today?
Watching MTP with Biden...24 hours till we fly out! weee!
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1SG(ret) Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:29:01am |
re: #682 realwest
Hey realwest, will send you an email from airport if I can get on the web there. Sorry meant to doing earlier this morning! Take care buddy! Got to go!
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:29:28am |
re: #680 lincolntf
If you're talking about revolution against the mullahs, you're correct. The Iranian youth movement has had its leaders killed and imprisoned by the mullahs over and over again.
We disagree about their fondness for everything American being meaningless. This is not a culture that hates America. Only the religious zealots, who run the government, hate America.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:30:27am |
re: #688 1SG(ret)
Only if you can e-mail me; much more important that you make that flight - have a safe and speedy one Top!
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:31:53am |
re: #686 momcat
mornin, HH
been ,enjoying vacation with rain, missed any meltdowns or bannings lately?
Good morning! Hope today finds you well...
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:32:19am |
re: #689 taxfreekiller
Very, VERY cool TFK!
Hope you can digitize some of those photos and e-mail 'em or post 'em somehow!
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:33:00am |
saw one of these yesterday down the street from me...black...160k$...so I bought it
[Link: www.mustangdreams.com...]
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justdanny Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:33:42am |
re: #668 MandyManners
Are you the Lizard who lost contact with friends in Iran yesterday? (Either way, please pardon my sketchy memory.)
Yes. Everyone flickered on and off a few times throught he night on several different messaging platforms. I have one Iranian friend who is in Spain and told me that even landlines were being affected by the blockages. I code writer computer friend in Shiraz was able to get me a message in a unique way to tell me she is ok.
Ive got all my channels open and Im waiting for three particular friends to send something out.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:34:17am |
I also don't buy the "We've been hearing this for three decades" stuff. I've been hearing it for about 15 years, if that. What exactly do we expect a bunch of kids to do in the face of such a repressive regime. The first Iranian revolution was possible because the Shaw was relaxing the tight grip of SAVAK and allowed the Ayatollah to return and organize. We can agree that no such relaxation is occurring today and there is no charismatic figure to lead any real reform movement.
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:34:22am |
re: #684 Scion9
I was quoting my professor of Islam at American University in Beirut for that proposition, i.e., that the current government in Iran is the first Islamic theocracy. He was quite adamant that Muslims have kept mosque and state separate for all of their history. The Caliphate itself is the primary proof of this.
He may be wrong, and you may be right. Perhaps he meant to qualify the statement by saying "in modern history".
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:34:35am |
Well Crap! It was a year ago that Tim Russert passed away.
rest his soul...he is missed
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:35:49am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:36:30am |
Williams was arrested in April after police said a search at his home 50 miles southeast of Cleveland turned up more than 300 women's undergarments. Police said they were led to Williams because he had used Facebook to contact some victims, who didn't know him.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:36:50am |
re: #702 HoosierHoops
Ah, well that shows you how long it's been since I'ved watched Network TV!
Any good quotes from Biden so far?
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:38:05am |
re: #704 realwest
Ah, well that shows you how long it's been since I'ved watched Network TV!
Any good quotes from Biden so far?
Biden got his ass handed to him this morning...
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:38:08am |
re: #690 quickjustice
We disagree about their fondness for everything American being meaningless. This is not a culture that hates America. Only the religious zealots, who run the government, hate America.
Yeah. Even if the dissidents in Iran are "pro-American" to the extent that they aren't cheering 9/11 because they have a fundamental respect for innocent life I'd consider that close enough for comfort.
A lot of residents of western Europe and Scandinavia could hardly be considered 'pro-America' but still aren't frothing at the mouth to see our blood spilled alongside the rest of the world's infidels.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:39:39am |
re: #696 justdanny
Yes. Everyone flickered on and off a few times throught he night on several different messaging platforms. I have one Iranian friend who is in Spain and told me that even landlines were being affected by the blockages. I code writer computer friend in Shiraz was able to get me a message in a unique way to tell me she is ok.
Ive got all my channels open and Im waiting for three particular friends to send something out.
I'll keep them in my thoughts and prayers.
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:39:39am |
re: #684 Scion9
You're splitting some hairs. I suppose you can distinguish between "rule by clerics" and rule by clerical rules", but it seems to me that that's a distinction without much difference.
And of course, Koran, Mohammed's "recital", is stream of consciousness in much of its text. Without the overlays of Sharia law and other Muslim scholarly traditions, it would impossible to govern using it. As in other religions, there are plenty of ways to skin a cat in Islam. You just have to pick and choose your sources.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:39:41am |
Updated my Iran coverage, with additional video.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:39:45am |
re: #703 MandyManners
That would certainly fall under the Weird category, but those were house break ins, right?
Should lock the fucker up for a while.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:41:24am |
re: #690 quickjustice
If you're talking about revolution against the mullahs, you're correct. The Iranian youth movement has had its leaders killed and imprisoned by the mullahs over and over again.
We disagree about their fondness for everything American being meaningless. This is not a culture that hates America. Only the religious zealots, who run the government, hate America.
Death to Americe = We Love America
Pass the koolaid.
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lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:41:57am |
re: #690 quickjustice
Never said "meaningless". Can you point to any improvements in Iran that have come about because of Western entertainment/styles? I can't.
My understanding is that the the youths are given their bread and circuses in the form of CD players and Levi's, perhaps to the detriment of actual reform.
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Jim in Virginia Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:42:01am |
I hate to admit it buuAndrew Sullivan's Iran covege is actually useful.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:42:50am |
re: #706 taxfreekiller
I believe you TFK - it's just not the same experience as mine - nor that of my friend who's still in a rubber room - almost literally - for following orders and shooting those two kids.
BTW, that 16 year old VC "girl sniper" - did y'all consider her a combatant?
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:43:13am |
re: #696 justdanny
So Danny-- do you think Iranians pro-American or anti-American?
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:43:34am |
Most Iranians favour development of nuclear weapons.
That is a deal breaker for me.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:43:44am |
re: #717 Jim in Virginia
I hate to admit it buuAndrew Sullivan's Iran covege is actually useful.
I think it's because he's been reading more LGF.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:43:51am |
re: #706 taxfreekiller
Sometimes I forget to thank you guys for your service.
Thank you for your service.
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:44:19am |
re: #715 Spare O'Lake
So you buy into the images the Iranian government permits to be broadcast to the world? I like mine grape-flavored. How about you?
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:44:27am |
re: #714 Jim in Virginia
Details?
Never ask a man on vacation for details..They don't exist..
*wink*
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:44:31am |
re: #720 Spare O'Lake
Most Iranians favour development of nuclear weapons.
That is a deal breaker for me.
and what "deal" are you speking of?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:45:02am |
Reza Pahlavi's Wiki:
Reza Pahlavi has used his high profile status as an Iranian abroad to campaign politically for human rights, democracy, and unity among Iranians in Iran and outside it. On his website he calls for a separation of religion and state in Iran and for free and fair elections "for all freedom-loving individuals and political ideologies". He exhorts all groups dedicated to a democratic agenda to work together for a democratic and secular Iranian government.
Pahlavi has used media appearances to urge Iran's theocratic government to accept a referendum that used independently verifiable international standards and observation mechanisms.[5][6][7] He has also urged Iranians to engage in a campaign of non-violent civil disobedience, starting with non-participation in elections of the Islamic republic (elections he views as "undemocratic"), followed by peaceful demonstrations and strikes. He is, however, an outspoken opponent of any foreign military intervention for regime change in Iran,[8] believing that the people of Iran alone have the power to bring about change in their governmental system and society.
SNIP
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:45:15am |
re: #722 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sometimes I forget to thank you guys for your service.
Thank you for your service.
a 20% tip would be advised for good service!
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Jim in Virginia Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:45:33am |
re: #722 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sometimes I forget to thank you guys for your service.
Thank you for your service.
Ditto.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:45:36am |
re: #712 realwest
That would certainly fall under the Weird category, but those were house break ins, right?
Should lock the fucker up for a while.
He's eligible for parole in about 4.5 years.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:46:06am |
re: #713 momcat
hey Mandy,
do you remember in the 70,80,s, in nashville, the guy they called the footstomper, a guy who went around stomping on women,s feet?
Can't say that I do. Did they ever catch the creep?
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:46:41am |
re: #716 lincolntf
That's correct, but that doesn't mean there isn't simmering resentment under the surface. The "armistice" right now is: Iranian kids: Give us our western stuff, and we won't make trouble for you right now.
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lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:49:39am |
re: #732 quickjustice
Which is why I get no positive vibes from seeing them with IPods and Nikes.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:49:40am |
re: #733 momcat
yeah, they did, after several YEARS and dozens of women having their feet stomped on.
the guy was a mental,homeless guy.
one of the strangest stories nashville has ever had.
Nashville is a cool city...Love to visit there
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:50:11am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:51:27am |
WEST BURLINGTON, Iowa - An umpire emptied the stands at a high school baseball game, ejecting the entire crowd of more than 100 fans for being unruly.
Umpire Don Briggs said he had no problem with any of the student athletes during Thursday's game between Winfield-Mount Union and West Burlington.He said he had to take action because fans were being unruly, yelling and arguing.
SNIP
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:52:12am |
re: #733 momcat
yeah, they did, after several YEARS and dozens of women having their feet stomped on.
the guy was a mental,homeless guy.
one of the strangest stories nashville has ever had.
I hope he got intensive therapy while locked up.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:52:54am |
re: #736 legalpad
What a bozo. He could have collected them at parties. No B & E.
I think part of the thrill was the danger involved.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:53:07am |
Well y'all I gotta run and do those chores now - hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:53:10am |
re: #738 MandyManners
Parents...can be pretty intense.
or
Parents...some are idiots.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:53:34am |
Some responsive posts contain just the Lizard's nic with no number of the post to which they're replying. What's up with that?
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:53:39am |
re: #634 legalpad
Because everyone else wanted "Israel and the Palestinians"!
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:54:23am |
re: #742 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Parents...can be pretty intense.
or
Parents...some are idiots.
You've been attending The Kid's games?
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Jim in Virginia Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:54:32am |
re: #727 MandyManners
Reza Pahlavi's Wiki:
SNIP
I don't doubt Reza Pahavi's sincerity but his usefulness to the Opposition in Iran is negligible. This is not a perfect metaphor, but would you quote Richard Nixon to question Obama's honesty, or praising the Romanov's behavior to criticize Putin and the Russian oligarch's thievery and waste?
Pahlavi has too much bad family history.
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:54:45am |
Nashville
[Link: www.wildhorsesaloon.com...]
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:55:04am |
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:55:26am |
re: #740 MandyManners
I think part of the thrill was the danger involved.
Like using facebook to target victims. He should separate his thrills from his crimes. But since he's such a weirdo I'm glad he's stupid.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:55:40am |
re: #743 MandyManners
Some responsive posts contain just the Lizard's nic with no number of the post to which they're replying. What's up with that?
See No. 733 for example.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:56:06am |
re: #748 sattv4u2
Competitive cheerleading... it got ugly.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:56:22am |
re: #746 Jim in Virginia
I don't doubt Reza Pahavi's sincerity but his usefulness to the Opposition in Iran is negligible. This is not a perfect metaphor, but would you quote Richard Nixon to question Obama's honesty, or praising the Romanov's behavior to criticize Putin and the Russian oligarch's thievery and waste?
Pahlavi has too much bad family history.
Steeped in it.
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irongrampa Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:56:25am |
Good morning from the Adirondacks. Another nice day here, mix of clouds and sun, with a slight breeze.
And the trout were co-operative yet again.
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FrogMarch Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:56:34am |
Pocket Guide to Democratic Statements on Health Care
Obama always seems to be in a hurry, trying to ram legislation through without any time for a review. This was the case with the enormous and failed "Stimulus Package" that no one had a chance to read.And now, Obama proposes to create the largest government entitlement program in world history, despite the fact that government has raped the Medicare "Trust Fund", raped the Social Security "Trust Fund" and offloaded huge Medicaid bills on state governments.
As for Obama's "open mind"? Roll Call Magazine reported this week that interested parties were threatened by Democrat staffers for even talking to Republicans about socialized medicine ("Baucus Aides Warn K Street"). The threatened private groups include representatives of hospitals, doctors and nurses. And the Democrats are threatening them with punishment if they even talk to Republicans.
/can't possibly be true. must be a conspiracy. Teh Democrats are holy and precious pure beings. They would never lie to us in order to ram through a huge controlling fascistic government program.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:57:17am |
re: #746 Jim in Virginia
Reza Pahavi's support is mostly from the ex-pat community. It's not particularly significant to the events inside Iran at the moment. The fight there is between the various factions of the mullahocracy, none of whom voice a pro-Western intent.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:57:38am |
re: #747 albusteve
Nashville
[Link: www.wildhorsesaloon.com...]
Been there...Done that...I went to college with Etta James's band leader...
Last year we hung out there at the wild horse saloon with him...
That woman is something special
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justdanny Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:57:49am |
re: #719 quickjustice
So Danny-- do you think Iranians pro-American or anti-American?
Iranians are pro Iran first. If we mess with them and they know it they will clog together in a mass and be anti everything on the planet except for defending Iran from outsiders.
I believe 70% of Iranians despite their age are anti guardian council/ islamic theocracy. I believe 15% are philosophically anti everything but islamic theocracy. And I believe 15% couldnt care less about islam or who is in control just so that they continue to profit from the isolation of Iran from the world.
On thing like I said above is clear to me. If they know or suspect that we, America, are fucking with them and their destiny, they will all, 100% fight against us.
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:57:49am |
re: #744 quickjustice
Because everyone else wanted "Israel and the Palestinians"!
I did a report on Iran, but it was in 8th grade or so, approximately 1 million years ago. A different world.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:58:00am |
re: #751 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Competitive cheerleading... it got ugly.
nothing worse than ugly cheerleaders!
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:58:13am |
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Jim in Virginia Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:58:27am |
re: #751 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Competitive cheerleading... it got ugly.
IIRC, twenty years ago a Texas mom tried to get one of her daughter's cheerleader competitors killed.
Some people need serious medication.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:59:12am |
re: #749 legalpad
Like using facebook to target victims. He should separate his thrills from his crimes. But since he's such a weirdo I'm glad he's stupid.
The breaking in is part of his attempt to dominate women. Perhaps a rapist in the making?
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:59:25am |
re: #756 HoosierHoops
Been there...Done that...I went to college with Etta James's band leader...
Last year we hung out there at the wild horse saloon with him...
That woman is something special
sadly, her time is short
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:59:36am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:59:51am |
re: #753 irongrampa
Good morning from the Adirondacks. Another nice day here, mix of clouds and sun, with a slight breeze.
And the trout were co-operative yet again.
You're killing lake-kittehs?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:59:57am |
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irongrampa Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:00:41am |
re: #766 MandyManners
As frequently as possible. They're extremely tasty.
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lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:00:53am |
re: #754 FrogMarch
Since the rational people are out of power at the moment, Obama will probably get his way on Nationalized Health Care. It would almost be better if it happened sooner rather than later. It will fail, and the sooner citizens see the failure the faster they can work on reversing the damage Obama/Pelosi/Frank/Reid inflict.
Maybe even in time for the 2010 elections.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:01:02am |
re: #759 sattv4u2
nothing worse than ugly cheerleaders!
U-G-L-Y
You ain't got no alibi
Yer Ugly, Ugly, Ugly!
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:03:42am |
re: #726 sattv4u2
and what "deal" are you speking of?
The delusional myth that most Iranians are not willing members of the axis of evil.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:04:16am |
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:05:58am |
re: #767 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"At Last"?
Sexiest song ever recorded... IMHO.
Etta James is a very nice person...My buddy has some great stories he shares. We had dinner with her a few years ago..
She is very cool
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:06:09am |
The IRS is proposing that employers declare 25 percent of an employee's annual cell phone expenses as a taxable benefit. However, the tax collector said employees could avoid being taxed under the proposal if they were able to prove they used personal cellphones for non-work-related calls during work hours.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:06:13am |
IRAN: Protestors burn state bank
June 13th. It is getting harder to get videos. facebook and other sites have been blocked. texting is blocked. calls are monitored
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:07:10am |
I love it, love it, the government is going to have socialized healthcare if they have to kill us to get it.
"June 12 (Bloomberg) -- Health-care overhaul legislation being drafted by House Democrats will include $600 billion in tax increases and $400 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel said."
"...$400 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid," hell, I don't get jack shit from these folks to start with, and by the time I am eligible or whatever, there isn't going to be anything left.
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:07:30am |
re: #770 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
U-G-L-Y
You ain't got no alibi
Yer Ugly, Ugly, Ugly!
U-G-L-Y
You ain't got no alibi
You ugly--hey,hey-you ugly
Like yo momma'.
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FrogMarch Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:07:44am |
re: #769 lincolntf
Since the rational people are out of power at the moment, Obama will probably get his way on Nationalized Health Care. It would almost be better if it happened sooner rather than later. It will fail, and the sooner citizens see the failure the faster they can work on reversing the damage Obama/Pelosi/Frank/Reid inflict.
Maybe even in time for the 2010 elections.
Once Socialized medicine is institutionalized, it will be hard to turn it around. When was the last time the federal government said they were going to cut a program? If Obama and the dems get their way on this, say goodbye to private health care, choice, medical improvements, and competition forever.
Of course, the corruptocrats have stolen the buzz words "choice" and "competition" - and have mangled the words into propoganda and lies.
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:09:21am |
Sunday gospel...take a load off
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:09:48am |
re: #776 Killgore Trout
IRAN: Protestors burn state bank
Excellent. You realize of course that they learned this stuff in "Death to America 100".
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lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:09:48am |
re: #779 FrogMarch
While it's true that the Gov't pretty much never limits its own scope, I think that the consequences of Socialized medicine will be so dire and so immediate that Congress/a new President will not only reverse it, but actively campaign on doing just that.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:09:52am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:10:13am |
re: #780 albusteve
I'm already taking a load off with a beer and the only Guns N Roses song I've ever liked.
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swamprat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:11:37am |
re: #772 Spare O'Lake
The delusional myth that most Iranians are not willing members of the axis of evil.
I wonder if their children go to evil petting zoos?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:11:41am |
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:11:56am |
re: #698 quickjustice
He was quite adamant that Muslims have kept mosque and state separate for all of their history. The Caliphate itself is the primary proof of this.
The Caliphate is a construct of Islamic theology. I'd say it is pretty hard to argue that the Caliphate was not theocratic just because Sunni Islam doesn't demand that an Imam rule (although it also doesn't bar that as a possibility in the same way that the ancient Jews barred Priests from being Kings yet still had a theocracy).
You're splitting some hairs. I suppose you can distinguish between "rule by clerics" and rule by clerical rules", but it seems to me that that's a distinction without much difference.
It's not splitting hairs at all. Henry VIII was the Head of the Church and King of England and as such essentially held the status as being a worldly representative for God (a much strong claim than being even an Ayatollah), yet England was not a theocracy under Henry. Their laws were not inherently based on Protestant Christianity, and their class of legal scholars, jurists and court officers were not required to be theologians or adhere to theonomy as their overarching mechanism for determining legality. The law of the land only filtered through Christian cultural mores, but not through the filter of theological litmus tests as part of their design and Church officials didn't have authority to veto law on the basis of its passing theological muster.
The same can't be said of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, Calvin's Geneva or a great many historical Islamic Kingdoms that did in fact necessitate the laws be in line with theology and as a result priests were necessarily arbitrators of laws because a non-theologian wouldn't be able to do the job. The actual reigns of executive power technically being in the hands of legislators, governors or royalty wasn't a factor in disqualifying them from being classified as theocracies.
The issue with the Caliphates 'separating' mosque from State isn't one of intention but poor design and the inability to foster that political formula. The Qur'an puts restrictions on a rightly acting Muslim ruler but puts no actual authority into the hands of the theological/jurist class to rebuke him when he fails to act as a good Muslim. It shouldn't be surprising that Kings don't like being told they have limits on their powers and equally as unsurprising that they ignore those restrictions when the only power that will visit grievance upon them for their indiscretions is a metaphysical God sitting in judgment in the afterlife. The Caliphates and other Islamic Kingdoms were not inherently untheocratic; their rulers were just bad at implementing theocracy because it was more beneficial and desirable for them to rule as they wished. The Caliph and vassals followed Shari'a when it suited them, and ignored it when it got in the way of security to their rule and the collection of taxes, which isn't any different than Iran today.
The same can be said of Jewish Kings of antiquity that flouted the law because they were at the top of the hierarchy; but the law of the land was still handed down by God, and arbitrated and interpreted by his priests.
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irongrampa Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:12:44am |
re: #777 Walter L. Newton
And you know they'll pass whatever they wish, Walter.
Don't look for the ""Blue Dog" Dems to oppose anything in meaningful numbers, only some, if it will present them as independent pols. The rest will roll over like good dogs.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:12:59am |
I hope to G*d someone's already posted the link this AM:
Tehran Bureau -- Sunday Iran Alerts
I feel no reason to doubt the authenticity of the message from the hospital. It's gut-wrenching, heartbreaking.
The Hungarian Uprising is not a good parallel, but it keeps coming to mind.
(Anyone of my generation will understand.)
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:13:13am |
re: #784 Sharmuta
I'm already taking a load off with a beer and the only Guns N Roses song I've ever liked.
beer recognizes no time zone...hail!
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:14:09am |
re: #772 Spare O'Lake
The delusional myth that most Iranians are not willing members of the axis of evil.
{sigh}
"Most Iranians" are not unlike "most" of any other citizens of a country. They, like us, want what they beleive is best for their country. The Iranians look to their eats and see a nuclear power (Russia). They looke to their west and see another nuclear power withing "striking" distance (Israel). Just like North Korea, they (the Iranians) figure that it's in their self interest to have the same "strength" as their neighbors.
That stated, take mmy post as in NO WAY advocating that I beleive that Iran and/ or NorK should have nukes.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:14:18am |
re: #781 Spare O'Lake
I think it's pretty significant that they can burn a bank in a major city and cops don't show up. At least overnight they had no control over the streets.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:15:16am |
re: #790 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Thanks, I'm getting caught up on the events overnight.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:15:18am |
re: #791 albusteve
beer recognizes no time zone...hail!
It's happy hour somewhere.
And this MP3 site is not run by brainiacs. It wouldn't let me replay the song a second time, so I deleted my cookies, and voilá.
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:16:04am |
re: #763 MandyManners
The breaking in is part of his attempt to dominate women. Perhaps a rapist in the making?
Probably. But controlling others is the surest way of enslaving yourself as Lincoln once noted:
"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy. Whatever differs from this, to the extent of the difference, is no democracy."
The man must be terrified of life, as, I guess, are most abusers.
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:16:59am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:17:16am |
re: #757 justdanny
Iranians are pro Iran first. If we mess with them and they know it they will clog together in a mass and be anti everything on the planet except for defending Iran from outsiders.
I believe 70% of Iranians despite their age are anti guardian council/ islamic theocracy. I believe 15% are philosophically anti everything but islamic theocracy. And I believe 15% couldnt care less about islam or who is in control just so that they continue to profit from the isolation of Iran from the world.
On thing like I said above is clear to me. If they know or suspect that we, America, are fucking with them and their destiny, they will all, 100% fight against us.
Their fucking destiny does NOT include nuking Israel and having their terrorist proxies Hezbollah and Hamas kill innocent Jews. As long as they understand that they can go fuck themselves at their own leisurely pace. But until they learn that, they are in my crosshairs, those motherfuckers.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:17:56am |
re: #783 Killgore Trout
I think that's somewhat misleading video, as I picked that up in my coverage. You indeed see the police leaving in force, but that may be simply to reengage at a better location for their purposes. Without knowing what else is going on off screen, there's no way to tell.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:19:07am |
re: #757 justdanny
On thing like I said above is clear to me. If they know or suspect that we, America, are fucking with them and their destiny, they will all, 100% fight against us.
I think right now they know that it is their own government that is fucking with them.
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:19:13am |
re: #795 Sharmuta
It's happy hour somewhere.
And this MP3 site is not run by brainiacs. It wouldn't let me replay the song a second time, so I deleted my cookies, and voilá.
they can't stop you...
they can only hope to contain you
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:19:44am |
re: #782 lincolntf
While it's true that the Gov't pretty much never limits its own scope, I think that the consequences of Socialized medicine will be so dire and so immediate that Congress/a new President will not only reverse it, but actively campaign on doing just that.
I think anyone that campaigns on taking away free stuff is going to lose in a catastrophic fashion.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:19:45am |
By the way...(this question is for the TV watching Lizards) Anybody out there with the Palladia TV channel?
Noon (eastern) Crossroads...Robert Plant/Alison Kraus...
He does a version of "The Boy Who Wouldn't Hoe Corn" that is amazing.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:20:16am |
re: #793 Killgore Trout
I think it's pretty significant that they can burn a bank in a major city and cops don't show up. At least overnight they had no control over the streets.
Yep. I love it. Thanks for posting it, you made my morning. Burn baby burn.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:21:03am |
re: #801 albusteve
they can't stop you...
they can only hope to contain you
I can delete my cookies over and over again and listen for free all day! Life is good.
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:21:37am |
re: #805 Sharmuta
I can delete my cookies over and over again and listen for free all day! Life is good.
pwnd
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:21:50am |
re: #796 legalpad
But controlling others is the surest way of enslaving yourself as Lincoln once noted:
"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy. Whatever differs from this, to the extent of the difference, is no democracy."
What Lincoln said was not applicable to rape and the general subjugation of women.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:23:02am |
re: #806 albusteve
You'd think they'd know better. I almost feel bad at how easy it is to cheat their system. Almost.
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:23:12am |
re: #734 lincolntf
Listening to western music on your ipod, as opposed to taking to the streets, risking your life in a cause, are different in degree. Nonetheless, there is "soft" rebellion and "hard" rebellion. Sometimes one morphs into the other.
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Lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:23:30am |
re: #802 Scion9
Why? People just elected a President who they knew was going to take money out of their pockets. Didn't seem to slow him down any.
More important than the cost will be the quality/availability of health care. There are already nightmare stories of ER's being overcrowded, etc. Wait until the people who "ran" Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac get their hands on medical decisions, it won't be pretty.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:23:48am |
Each time they keep telling me the first song is free, then I have to sign up. Or delete my cookies. Suckers.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:23:50am |
They just showed a picture of the Guard that got shot this week...
A very handsome man...I am so sorry for his family...
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:25:32am |
re: #802 Scion9
I think anyone that campaigns on taking away free stuff is going to lose in a catastrophic fashion.
That touches on a post JCM made about FCBBHO's own words about negative liberty.
But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent as radical as people tried to characterize the Warren court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it’s been interpreted, and the Warren court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can’t do to you, it says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. And that hasn’t shifted. One of the I think tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributed change and in some ways we still suffer from that.
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:26:22am |
re: #807 MandyManners
What Lincoln said was not applicable to rape and the general subjugation of women.
Well, I think it is in principle, if we are understanding each other. It, of course, was not what he was addressing, but subjugation = slavery.
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Truck Monkey Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:26:42am |
re: #742 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Parents...can be pretty intense.
or
Parents...some are idiots.
I'd go with the latter. As a coach of several youth teams I have had the lovely experience of telling my kids parents to simmer down on more than one occasion. I don't know about the psychology involved but it seems to be pandemic. Bad behavior leaks down to the kids making it damn near impossible to teach the kids and have some fun. I still coach, but sometimes I wonder why.
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:27:11am |
re: #769 lincolntf
What Obama means by "reform" in health care is drastic cost-cutting and rationing to save the government money. Senior citizens will be the group the feels the greatest impact.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:28:12am |
re: #792 sattv4u2
{sigh}
"Most Iranians" are not unlike "most" of any other citizens of a country. They, like us, want what they beleive is best for their country. The Iranians look to their eats and see a nuclear power (Russia). They looke to their west and see another nuclear power withing "striking" distance (Israel). Just like North Korea, they (the Iranians) figure that it's in their self interest to have the same "strength" as their neighbors.
That stated, take mmy post as in NO WAY advocating that I beleive that Iran and/ or NorK should have nukes.
And most Germans in Nazi Germany were good people too and loved their country.
And most Japanese in WWII were good people too who loved their country.
But they still had to be stopped, just like Nork and Iran must be stopped.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:30:18am |
The right wing blogs are really dropping the ball. The situation in Iran could potentially change the world. Hot Ait put up a poll about the biggest Obama mistake of the week. Instapundit is posting about the Tea Parties and shilling for the Fair Tax. Huffpo's coverage is better that the MSM. Dkos is doing a good job and the top rated spinoff link is from Andrew Sullivan. The blogoshpere has really changed.
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nyc redneck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:31:23am |
re: #818 quickjustice
What Obama means by "reform" in health care is drastic cost-cutting and rationing to save the government money. Senior citizens will be the group the feels the greatest impact.
ironic, isn't it?
the group of people who have worked the longest and hardest to make the country what it is.
in some cases it will like putting them out on ice flows because they are no longer of any use.
and bureaucrats will be making these decisions.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:31:33am |
re: #820 justdanny
I agree completely.
I hope they know the American people are on their side and not the side of their government.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:32:06am |
re: #816 legalpad
Well, I think it is in principle, if we are understanding each other. It, of course, was not what he was addressing, but subjugation = slavery.
It's not quite the same but, as the subject of rape sometimes (like right now) raises my hackles to the point that I get irrational, I'll have to stop my part in this discussion.
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Bob Dillon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:32:44am |
Gotta pass this on ...
Summary of Life
GREAT TRUTHS THAT LITTLE CHILDREN HAVE LEARNED:
1) No matter how hard you try, you can't baptize cats.
2) When your Mom is mad at your Dad, don't let her brush your hair.
3) If your sister hits you, don't hit her back. They always catch the second person.
4) Never ask your 3-year old brother to hold a tomato.
5) You can't trust dogs to watch your food.
6) Don't sneeze when someone is cutting your hair.
7) Never hold a Dust-Buster and a cat at the same time.
8) You can't hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of milk.
9) Don't wear polk-a-dot underwear under white shorts.
10) The best place to be when you're sad is Grandpa's lap.
GREAT TRUTHS THAT ADULTS HAVE LEARNED:
1) Raising teenagers is like nailing jelly to a tree.
2) Wrinkles don't hurt.
3) Families are like fudge...mostly sweet, with a few nuts.
4) Today's mighty oak is just yesterday' s nut that held its ground.
5) Laughing is good exercise. It's like jogging on the inside.
6) Middle age is when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy.
GREAT TRUTHS ABOUT GROWING OLD
1) Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
2) Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.
3) When you fall down, you wonder what else you can do while you're down there.
4) You're getting old when you get the same sensation from a rocking chair that you once got from a roller coaster.
5) It's frustrating when you know all the answers but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
6) Time may be a great healer, but it's a lousy beautician.
7) Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.
THE FOUR STAGES OF LIFE :
1) You believe in Santa Claus.
2 ) You don't believe in Santa Claus .
3) You are Santa Claus.
4) You look like Santa Claus..
SUCCESS:
At age 4 success is . . . Not piddling in your pants.
At age 12 success is . . . Having friends.
At age 17 success is. . Having a driver's license.
At age 35 success is. .. . Having money.
At age 50 success is . . . Having money.
At age 70 success is . . . Having a driver’s license.
At age 75 success is . ... Having friends.
At age 80 success is . . . Not piddling in your pants.
Always remember to forget the troubles that pass your way;
BUT NEVER forget the blessings that come each day.
Have a wonderful day with many! *smiles*
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:34:16am |
re: #794 Killgore Trout
Thanks, I'm getting caught up on the events overnight.
One comment on that page says Rafsanjani has been "absent" since his letter of yesterday. (Given the communications blackout, ... not surprising.)
Kahmeini appears to have thrown in with the Pasdaran (and hence, ShortShit) which hates Rafsanjani's guts. The Supreme Leader's decision isn't too suprising to me, since the Pasdaran is the key to the Islamic Republic's survival.
My read is that Rafsanjani is the key to any sort of a different outcome other than what's in the works. The comms blackout will throttle almost everything but his massive political clout. Exactly where he might take things, though, is anybody's guess.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:34:38am |
re: #826 Bobibutu
SUCCESS:
At age 4 success is . . . Not piddling in your pants.
At age 12 success is . . . Having friends.
At age 17 success is. . Having a driver's license.
At age 35 success is. .. . Having money.
At age 50 success is . . . Having money.
At age 70 success is . . . Having a driver’s license.
At age 75 success is . ... Having friends.
At age 80 success is . . . Not piddling in your pants.
LOL!
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Truck Monkey Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:35:32am |
re: #761 Jim in Virginia
IIRC, twenty years ago a Texas mom tried to get one of her daughter's cheerleader competitors killed.
Some people need serious medication.
I thought is was the rival cheerleaders mother that was on the hit list.
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:35:50am |
re: #819 Spare O'Lake
And most Germans in Nazi Germany were good people too and loved their country.
And most Japanese in WWII were good people too who loved their country.
But they still had to be stopped, just like Nork and Iran must be stopped.
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justdanny Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:36:37am |
re: #824 Sharmuta
I hope they know the American people are on their side and not the side of their government.
The ones I know have no doubt that Americans support their desire for freedom from the mullahcracy. I know hardcore lefties and righties there and they all believe (my friends, the ones I know) that it is time for the mullahs to go away.
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mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:36:55am |
I think Iran is as much a kleptocracy as it is a theocracy. The Mullahs have divvied up the State Economy and each of them profit from the inside deals personally. I suppose its possible that a group of "religious" leaders would simultaneously be industry barons as well, but I think its far more likely that they are just garden variety despots using their position of power for their own personal financial gain.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:37:35am |
re: #827 pre-Boomer Marine brat
The national strikes could be enough to send things over the edge if they go on long enough. I think that the people have lost enough confidence in the current system that a political settlement might not be an option at this point.
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VegasRick Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:38:22am |
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:39:54am |
pure, straight up rock and roll...
Carol
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:41:07am |
re: #833 Killgore Trout
The national strikes could be enough to send things over the edge if they go on long enough. I think that the people have lost enough confidence in the current system that a political settlement might not be an option at this point.
The thing we don't know from here is how wide spread this is. I'm nopt talking geographically, as I know there are protests going on in many major cities. But what percentage of the people are involved? THAT will tell us how efective a national strike would be and THAT would show if they will be able to force the current gov't/ systems hand
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:41:09am |
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:41:24am |
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:41:27am |
re: #826 Bobibutu
I like these:
4) Today's mighty oak is just yesterday' s nut that held its ground.
THE FOUR STAGES OF LIFE :
1) You believe in Santa Claus.
2 ) You don't believe in Santa Claus .
3) You are Santa Claus.
4) You look like Santa Claus..
I still seem to be Santa Claus.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:42:47am |
re: #840 legalpad
I like these:
I still seem to be Santa Claus.
And, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:43:46am |
re: #821 Killgore Trout
The right wing blogs are really dropping the ball. The situation in Iran could potentially change the world. Hot Ait put up a poll about the biggest Obama mistake of the week. Instapundit is posting about the Tea Parties and shilling for the Fair Tax. Huffpo's coverage is better that the MSM. Dkos is doing a good job and the top rated spinoff link is from Andrew Sullivan. The blogoshpere has really changed.
I already said that some on the right don't care. It's more important for them to demonize all muslims than to support freedom- the antithesis of islam. Stupid, imo.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:43:54am |
re: #821 Killgore Trout
The right wing blogs are really dropping the ball. The situation in Iran could potentially change the world.
UP-ding!
I'm not following the other blogs, but (rhetorically) if it is, and remains, as you say, then I wish a plague on their stupid houses.
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:45:50am |
re: #810 Lincolntf
Why? People just elected a President who they knew was going to take money out of their pockets.
No, some voted for a President who they thought was going to give them free stuff. Some voted for the Historic First Black President. Some voted for Hope and Change. Some voted against Bush II AKA McCain.
If Obama shoehorns in UHC by 2010 and someone campaigns to overturn it by 2013 I think they will lose on that basis. Everyone will be beholden to the system for their well being, or know someone who is for either care or employment.
It doesn't matter how badly broken social security, welfare, medicare/medicaid are; even talk of reforming them is borderline verboten. Campaigning on taking them away would be political suicide. UHC will just be another one of those things, that even if it sucks and isn't doing what it is supposed to do, no one will want to get rid of it.
I think it would have to be as badly administered and as catastrophic as Soviet programs to actually get overturned. As in mass starvation, disease and death which doesn't seem terribly likely. Even if this UHC thing guts the economy the media will blame it on time-traveling Voodoo Witchdoctors before they blame it on a Democrat in office, much less Obama. The failure would have to be catastrophically visible to peoples actual health for them to correlate something to the failure of healthcare. If the economy tanks, well shit anything could cause that.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:45:50am |
re: #833 Killgore Trout
The national strikes could be enough to send things over the edge if they go on long enough. I think that the people have lost enough confidence in the current system that a political settlement might not be an option at this point.
Good point. I just noticed (this AM) the call for strikes.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:45:56am |
Sergeant York just went off.
That was one bad-ass pacifist.
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Lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:46:13am |
Crap. Just changed the channel in time to watch the closing credits of "Sergeat York" on TMC. Haven't seen that movie since I was a kid. Maybe I'll catch it next Flag Day.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:47:40am |
re: #843 Sharmuta
I already said that some on the right don't care. It's more important for them to demonize all muslims than to support freedom- the antithesis of islam. Stupid, imo.
/tempted to unlimber the sock to give that another upding
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:48:14am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:49:05am |
Killgore- we came to learn from the vlaams belang mess that the "counter-jihad" is full of bigots. Many of these bigots have blogs, and think they're right-wingers. Why would these people care about the Iranians and their freedom? They don't care. They're bigots who think the entire region should be wiped off the map.
Ugly and the plain spoken truth.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:50:39am |
re: #852 Lincolntf
Crap. Just changed the channel in time to watch the closing credits of "Sergeat York" on TMC. Haven't seen that movie since I was a kid. Maybe I'll catch it next Flag Day.
Bringing up Baby is on next.
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:50:56am |
re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sergeant York just went off.
That was one bad-ass pacifist.
true Christians would never kill anyone
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Lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:51:16am |
re: #853 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Nope. Must have been typing when you posted it. Now they're showing a cool sportsmen's reel from back in the 40's or 50's.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:53:03am |
I think the purpose of cheap beer is to drink it quickly so you don't have to bother tasting that it's cheap beer.
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Lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:53:04am |
re: #858 MandyManners
It might be sacrilege, but I can't stand that movie. I love big cats so I sat through it once. Don't know why, but the whole flick annoys me. Except for "Baby" of course.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:53:22am |
re: #856 Sharmuta
Killgore- we came to learn from the vlaams belang mess that the "counter-jihad" is full of bigots. Many of these bigots have blogs, and think they're right-wingers. Why would these people care about the Iranians and their freedom? They don't care. They're bigots who think the entire
regionWORLD OTHER THAN THIER COUNTRY should be wiped off the map.Ugly and the plain spoken truth.
They are almost more jingoistic than anything else.
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:53:43am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:54:04am |
re: #860 Lincolntf
Did you see the size of that "Devil-fish"? Dayam!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:54:21am |
re: #843 Sharmuta
I already said that some on the right don't care. It's more important for them to demonize all muslims than to support freedom- the antithesis of islam. Stupid, imo.
I'm also noticing that coverage from Dkos and Huffpo relies on friends and acquaintances who have family there. Most of the counterjihad and right wing blogs don't seem to have very good connections.
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Lincolntf Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:54:30am |
re: #867 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was absolutely amazing.
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:54:34am |
re: #842 MandyManners
And, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.
My Kim Jong-il wife is the Easter bunny.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:55:00am |
re: #865 legalpad
lol. No dhimmis here. I tend to shoot first, do forensics later.
I ALWAYS yell "STOP, OR I'LL SHOOT"
Unfortunately, I get the sequence in the wrong order!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:55:02am |
re: #843 Sharmuta
I already said that some on the right don't care. It's more important for them to demonize all muslims than to support freedom- the antithesis of islam. Stupid, imo.
I strong suspect they don't know squat about Islam itself -- history and undercurrents, like a Bernard Lewis or a Daniel Pipes does.
I myself know only a little more than squat, but I've learned enough to realize that (most?) of the politicized pundits are precisely that.
/yes, I'm keeping one of Spencer's books as a data resource, but I no longer trust it completely
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:55:05am |
re: #864 sattv4u2
They are almost more jingoistic than anything else.
That's a good point. To them "The West" is America, Canada and Europe, and to hell with the rest of the world.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:55:28am |
re: #862 Sharmuta
I think the purpose of cheap beer is to drink it quickly so you don't have to bother tasting that it's cheap beer.
No one drinks cheap beer on Vacation...It's against the law
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:56:16am |
re: #863 Lincolntf
It might be sacrilege, but I can't stand that movie. I love big cats so I sat through it once. Don't know why, but the whole flick annoys me. Except for "Baby" of course.
I watch just about anything with Hepburn in it.
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:56:31am |
re: #871 sattv4u2
I ALWAYS yell "STOP, OR I'LL SHOOT"
Unfortunately, I get the sequence in the wrong order!
"Bang, bang, bang!" Uh, FREEZE!
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Flyers1974 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:56:48am |
re: #821 Killgore Trout
The right wing blogs are really dropping the ball. The situation in Iran could potentially change the world. Hot Ait put up a poll about the biggest Obama mistake of the week. Instapundit is posting about the Tea Parties and shilling for the Fair Tax. Huffpo's coverage is better that the MSM. Dkos is doing a good job and the top rated spinoff link is from Andrew Sullivan. The blogoshpere has really changed.
I think the reason for their comparatively sparce treatment of this subject is, they haven't yet figured out how to best blame Obama. Until they get that in order, the subject in and of itself, holds little interest to them.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:56:55am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:57:02am |
re: #866 Sharmuta
Steve said a true Christian wouldn't kill anyone. I'm a Christian, I'd kill someone. That's all.
Circumstances would require it, but I'd do it.
Someone's going to harm my family? Someone's dead.
That kind of thing.
"Why'd you shoot him 6 times?"
"Didn't have any bullets left."
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:57:04am |
re: #868 Killgore Trout
I'm also noticing that coverage from Dkos and Huffpo relies on friends and acquaintances who have family there. Most of the counterjihad and right wing blogs don't seem to have very good connections.
Why would they? They're bigots.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:57:16am |
re: #873 Sharmuta
That's a good point. To them "The West" is America, Canada and Europe, and to hell with the rest of the world.
Don't get me wrong. You're absolutly correct that they are bigots. Problem is, they want to "send back" anyone thats not like them, then obliterate where they "sent them back" too!
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pink freud Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:57:21am |
Drudge has posted a familiar picture top and center. It's part of this photo essay from North Korea, posted about a week ago here on the overnight thread. I can't remember the lizard who originally posted it for attribution ...the pics are wonderful.
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VegasRick Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:57:49am |
re: #872 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I strong suspect they don't know squat about Islam itself -- history and undercurrents, like a Bernard Lewis or a Daniel Pipes does.
I myself know only a little more than squat, but I've learned enough to realize that (most?) of the politicized pundits are precisely that.
/yes, I'm keeping one of Spencer's books as a data resource, but I no longer trust it completely
Spencer knows jihad, he just has a lot of very questionable friends.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:57:52am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:57:57am |
re: #877 legalpad
"Bang, bang, bang!" Uh, FREEZE!
"What's the difference in the police in America and the Soviet Union, Yakov?"
"Warning shots!"
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Bob Dillon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:58:13am |
re: #859 albusteve
true Christians would never kill anyone
True Christians would never murder anyone ... there is a difference.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:58:15am |
re: #870 legalpad
My Kim Jong-il wife is the Easter bunny.
Watch your back or she'll be reading over your shoulder again.
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:58:23am |
re: #859 albusteve
true Christians would never kill anyone
They don't need to. We'll do it for them.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:58:32am |
re: #874 HoosierHoops
No one drinks cheap beer on Vacation...It's against the law
I'm not on vacation. Just been up for half the day, so I figured I could have a beer.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:00:23am |
re: #878 Flyers1974
No- muslims living in freedom holds no interest for them.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:01:31am |
re: #875 Iron Fist
We had Winston08 who spoke fluent Farsi but we lost him a few months ago.
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VegasRick Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:01:48am |
re: #891 Iron Fist
Reload.
"Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang!"
That should finish the job. They taught me to shoot them until they stopped moving. Everytime you shoot him, he moves again, right?
Democrat, Republican or a Redneck?
[Link: www.sodahead.com...]
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:02:14am |
re: #878 Flyers1974
I had the same thought.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:02:15am |
re: #866 Sharmuta
Wha?
"Kill him a lot." is my favorite line from the movie "Buffy, the Vampire Slayer".
Delivered by Paul Reubens. Yep. Peewee.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:02:35am |
re: #890 Sharmuta
I'm not on vacation. Just been up for half the day, so I figured I could have a beer.
You know me...Vacation and lots of beer...
There ought to be a law! LOL
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:03am |
re: #893 Killgore Trout
We had Winston08 who spoke fluent Farsi but we lost him a few months ago.
NY Nana posted a link to his blog yesterday.
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:18am |
re: #896 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They are remaking that apparently. Can't be the same without Peewee, and the world's longest death scene.
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formercorpsman Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:35am |
re: #821 Killgore Trout
I have not been to any other blogs with the exception of azarmehr.blogspot.
We agree 1000%. We are the same age, and I am sure recall 1979 with some clarity.
For some reason, this seems different than other times. Even if our government is not pushing them in more effective terms, the blogosphere should be united in fomenting support.
I could not agree more.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:44am |
re: #876 MandyManners
I watch just about anything with Hepburn in it.
Me too. And she is just adorable in Bringing Up Baby.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:58am |
Early Report Day Two: Media Police Run, Protestors Trapped by Police, Ayatollahs Daughter Arrested.
Scroll down to the last picture.
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Bob Dillon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:14am |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:57am |
re: #898 MandyManners
Did he ever make it to the States? Did he get the translation job?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:05:04am |
re: #884 VegasRick
Spencer knows jihad, he just has a lot of very questionable friends.
I'll grant that, but what I've come to suspect is that Spencer has a single-minded focus on the jihad-related aspects of Islam (if not the jihad-specific), and ignores everything else.
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:05:14am |
re: #862 Sharmuta
I think the purpose of cheap beer is to drink it quickly so you don't have to bother tasting that it's cheap beer.
* * * *
It's still nutritious carbohydrate. Use it to cook with then, in bread or soup.
Who can drink the champagne of beers right now?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:06:00am |
And I'm going to make myself crystal clear on this point. Many of the "counter-jihadi" blogger-bigots, like fjordy, did not support the war in Iraq.
Because they don't care.
They don't care that Western styled freedom is the antithesis of islam. They are not interested in islam reforming itself. Now why, if freedom is the antithesis of a fascist styled regime, would a Westerner and counter-jihadi oppose freedom for muslims in Iraq or Iran? The only conclusion I can come to is that they're not really interested in a reformed islam. They just want to engage in genocidal rhetoric, and perhaps the deed itself. They wish to impose their bigoted worldview upon the rest of the world, where they are superior and those that are not are disposed of. There's a reason why they're considered fascists around here- it's because that is what they are.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:06:11am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:07:06am |
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:07:30am |
Broken clock time from Carter:
He doesn't see Israel giving up the Etzion bloc of communities. That's not going to sit well with the Arabs.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:07:41am |
re: #904 Killgore Trout
Did he ever make it to the States? Did he get the translation job?
I have no idea.
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:07:49am |
CNN can hardly be considered "right wing" -- I consider them essentially moderates. Yet their coverage of the Iranian elections were also subject to scathing indictments. Also, on CBC (yet another source that can hardly be termed 'rightwing') yesterday evening they were reporting that everything in Tehran was peaceful -- no violence whatsoever was being reported. That's what CBC was claiming in their 'news' coverage -- only in the late evening were there reports about sporadic outbreaks of violence in Tehran.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:33am |
Iran TV screen capture - voting irregularities exposed (picture inside)
That screenshot clearly shows that the vote for Rezai actually went backwards as the count was coming in, from 633048 votes to 587913 votes. Very strange indeed.
Heh.
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VegasRick Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:39am |
re: #905 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I'll grant that, but what I've come to suspect is that Spencer has a single-minded focus on the jihad-related aspects of Islam (if not the jihad-specific), and ignores everything else.
Agreed, hence my "knows jihad" statement
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Bob Dillon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:50am |
re: #909 MandyManners
Winston?
Now - I could be wrong but his avatar and name were there - linking to Iran data.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:59am |
We need to quit kidding ourselves about some of our so-called fellow travelers.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:15am |
re: #893 Killgore Trout
I think he was bi-polar or something. The nicest Lizard; then the meanest, most bitter.
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:46am |
re: #907 Sharmuta
And I'm going to make myself crystal clear on this point. Many of the "counter-jihadi" blogger-bigots, like fjordy, did not support the war in Iraq.
Because they don't care.
They don't care that Western styled freedom is the antithesis of islam. They are not interested in islam reforming itself. Now why, if freedom is the antithesis of a fascist styled regime, would a Westerner and counter-jihadi oppose freedom for muslims in Iraq or Iran? The only conclusion I can come to is that they're not really interested in a reformed islam. They just want to engage in genocidal rhetoric, and perhaps the deed itself. They wish to impose their bigoted worldview upon the rest of the world, where they are superior and those that are not are disposed of. There's a reason why they're considered fascists around here- it's because that is what they are.
* * * *
Amazing how this mentality is a mirror image of the leftists who hated our "liberation" of Iraq from fascist Baathist tyranny--preferring to let the murderous genocidal Saddam & Sons to continue to slaughter innocents with extra UN Food for Oil funds.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:10:24am |
re: #913 Killgore Trout
Iran TV screen capture - voting irregularities exposed (picture inside)
Heh.
heh heh
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:10:45am |
re: #917 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think he was bi-polar or something. The nicest Lizard; then the meanest, most bitter.
I can understand that problem, fuck it :)
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:10:58am |
re: #917 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think he was bi-polar or something. The nicest Lizard; then the meanest, most bitter.
Lately there have been new contenders to that title.
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formercorpsman Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:11:06am |
re: #907 Sharmuta
If something truly materializes in Iran right now, I think an absolutely solid argument can be made directly because of what Bush did by taking on Iraq.
Seriously, if there is a coup in Iran that runs the mullah's out, I would consider that maneuver to be to be comparable to Reagan's efforts against the Soviet Union.
With that, I hope you all have a good day. I am going out to purchase 3 cases of beer for an excellent assistant coach (my gratitude for all he does) and then all things baseball for about 6-8 hours.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:11:16am |
re: #914 VegasRick
Agreed, hence my "knows jihad" statement
heh
:D ... thanks for the affirmation of my private hunch
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:11:37am |
re: #920 Walter L. Newton
What's up, ya skinny son of a gun?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:11:39am |
re: #919 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I don't think that's conclusive proof, I really can't make it out myself but it sure is fishy.
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:11:55am |
re: #913 Killgore Trout
Iran TV screen capture - voting irregularities exposed (picture inside)
Heh.
* * * *
Voting irregularities = known ACORN international community/Caliphate specialty
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Bob Dillon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:12:02am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:12:06am |
re: #918 alegrias
Because some on the left and right actually share the same mentality- the unconstrained vision. They just arrive at different conclusions, but the disrespect for Enlightenment principles is obvious.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:12:35am |
re: #902 Killgore Trout
Early Report Day Two: Media Police Run, Protestors Trapped by Police, Ayatollahs Daughter Arrested.
Scroll down to the last picture.
First photograph: Why is he wearing Klein undies? Klein is Jewish.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:14:18am |
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:14:24am |
Morning again...big thunderstorm coming through here...love this weather = )
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:14:31am |
re: #916 Sharmuta
We need to quit kidding ourselves about some of our so-called fellow travelers.
* * * *
As former V.P. Dick Cheney said recently, freedom is for everybody.
(this was said in context of gay rights, but is proven by Cheney/Bush's record of liberating people from despots despite leftist/rightist isolationists)
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:14:33am |
re: #924 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What's up, ya skinny son of a gun?
I'm not that skinny, stop that. I am going to be so glad when this week is over. This has been one of the busiest opening weeks we've had in years. New carpet, new lobby furniture, new show, tech week, opening night buffet, busy, busy, busy.
Tomorrow I having a tooth worked on, and I am actually looking forward to being drugged and sitting in that chair.
And I don't have dental coverage, so, this is a hit out of my pocket, enough to have bought a Iphone. But, I need teeth more than an Iphone.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:14:34am |
re: #915 Bobibutu
Now - I could be wrong but his avatar and name were there - linking to Iran data.
I just did a user search for Winston08 and came up dry.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:15:08am |
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Flyers1974 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:15:10am |
re: #831 justdanny
The ones I know have no doubt that Americans support their desire for freedom from the mullahcracy. I know hardcore lefties and righties there and they all believe (my friends, the ones I know) that it is time for the mullahs to go away.
I've talked to hundreds of Arabs and to a much lesser degree, Iranians. All in the US. The Iranians I've talked to, and of course I'm speaking in general terms, seem to me to understand and agree with American values. Many of the Arabs I've met, while seeming to genuinely like much of what the US has to offer, like America in terms of economic opportunity and lack of corruption. They don't seem to care or understand as much, about the basic philosophical freedoms. I don't know where or if this affects their attitudes, but the Iranians I've met are also generally more educated and more wealthy that the Arabs, so admittedly my comparison is far from perfect.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:15:14am |
re: #921 Bloodnok
Lately there have been new contenders to that title.
If nominated, I won't run ,, if elected, I won't serve !
//
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:15:33am |
re: #932 srb1976
Morning again...big thunderstorm coming through here...love this weather = )
Not so much fun when there is a big funnel cloud in it. We've had a week of nasty weather here in Colorado.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:16:42am |
re: #925 Killgore Trout
I don't think that's conclusive proof, I really can't make it out myself but it sure is fishy.
Yeah, it could have been the result of data entry GIGO in the studio.
... then again ...
/gee, is that the trash?! ... I though I took it out last night!
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Bob Dillon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:16:50am |
re: #935 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I just did a user search for Winston08 and came up dry.
Looks like we got a 06 and an 08... Who's on first?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:17:07am |
re: #939 Walter L. Newton
Heard about that the other day...thought of you.
Didn't really care, but I thought of you.
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:17:10am |
re: #925 Killgore Trout
CNN has been reporting that the voting results (in terms of how the votes were counted) are (apparently) suspect. Thus, CNN has noted that 20 percent of the vote was "counted" within an hour of so of the polls closing -- how could the votes have been counted that quickly? -- many are suspcious of the counting, suggesting that there were "massive" irregularities. (I think everyone "knows" by now that the "vote" for Ahamadinejad was in/determined beforehand -- he was chosen by the Supreme Leader long before -- what remains curious, as Daniel Pipes points out is -- Why? Why choose Ahamadinejad?)
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:17:37am |
re: #934 Walter L. Newton
I'm not that skinny, stop that. I am going to be so glad when this week is over. This has been one of the busiest opening weeks we've had in years. New carpet, new lobby furniture, new show, tech week, opening night buffet, busy, busy, busy.
Tomorrow I having a tooth worked on, and I am actually looking forward to being drugged and sitting in that chair.
And I don't have dental coverage, so, this is a hit out of my pocket, enough to have bought a Iphone. But, I need teeth more than an Iphone.
What up Walter! We fly out on Midwest connect in the morning...
Vacation time Bro!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:17:43am |
re: #936 Killgore Trout
Damn, no remote linking. Another Calvin Klien underwear guy. (scroll down to the guy in the yellow shirt. )
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:18:42am |
re: #935 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I just did a user search for Winston08 and came up dry.
SHIT ... Winston06 !
/thanks, Bobibutu
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:18:54am |
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VegasRick Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:19:06am |
re: #945 Killgore Trout
Damn, no remote linking. Another Calvin Klien underwear guy. (scroll down to the guy in the yellow shirt. )
Killgore, I'm starting to worry about you.
/
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:19:39am |
re: #930 Iron Fist
One thing that often gets brushed over about Iraq is that our "containment and sanctions" policy was fucked six ways from Sunday. You had the Russians and the French getting bribed with the "Oil for Food" scam while dealing weapons to the Iraqis under the table. If we'd backed down and not gone to war, sanctions would be over now, and Saddam would have opened up those WMD facilities that were mothballed and had his programs running today.
We'll never know what he would have done with them, but I think that is for the best.
* * * *
Yes, IronFist, so true. You'll love this bit I read this week somewhere:
Chrysler motors' new owner FIAT is still in court over doing dirty dealings with Saddam Hussein during the UN Oil for Food scandal.
Yes, Italy's FIAT mafiosi motors were selling equipment to Saddam Hussein during SANCTIONS, and now they own Chrysler.
Thank, President Obama, for doing great DUE DILIGENCE before handing over US companies to mafiosi outfits like FIAT's corrupt management, and the UAW's fat cats, with OUR TAX dollars.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:20:34am |
re: #944 HoosierHoops
What up Walter! We fly out on Midwest connect in the morning...
Vacation time Bro!
To where?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:20:42am |
re: #949 lawhawk
Ashura was months ago. those are fresh baton marks. There are enough videos of clubbings that I see no reason to doubt that pic.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:20:59am |
re: #950 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Crossword time! Woo hoo!
Cross words? We're supposed to swear at each other now? Damn you!
/how was that?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:21:08am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:21:23am |
re: #941 Bobibutu
Looks like we got a 06 and an 08... Who's on first?
Well, (*innocence personified*) I was just following the nic which Killgore posted up-thread.
/*screaming It'sNotMyFault as I wipe the egg off my face* ... :D
/SARC
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:21:50am |
re: #949 lawhawk
You're referring to a picture of a guy with all kinds of marks on his back.
Any word on whether they were due to Ashura? It's great propaganda, but let's just say I am a wee bit cynical when we're talking about a regime like Iran.
Could be, but if that IS a protester (and his flashing the PEACE sign would indicate it) and we can verify when the photo was taken I would say the security forces did it
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:22:26am |
re: #955 MandyManners
Would flagellation leave horizontal marks?
No, but some soft velvet ties, a velvet rope, blindfold... oh... never mind...
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:22:48am |
re: #950 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Crossword time! Woo hoo!
Oleo. Greatest crossword answer of all time. It's in there every few days. Or "aerie". Used in a sentence: TFK has an aerie in his back yard.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:22:56am |
re: #952 Walter L. Newton
To where?
Lake Tomahawk, Wisc. I have a lakeside Cabin there...
Walter! Too much fun next week
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:22:59am |
re: #954 Sharmuta
Cross words? We're supposed to swear at each other now? Damn you!
/how was that?
What do you call a college that specializes in hydro-electrics
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VegasRick Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:23:06am |
re: #958 Walter L. Newton
No, but some soft velvet ties, a velvet rope, blindfold... oh... never mind...
David Carradine is dead.
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Bob Dillon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:23:11am |
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:23:48am |
re: #939 Walter L. Newton
Not so much fun when there is a big funnel cloud in it. We've had a week of nasty weather here in Colorado.
It's supposed to be tornado season here...but no sirens yet...these big storms tend to blow up and blow over pretty quick around here
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:24:53am |
re: #962 VegasRick
David Carradine is dead.
* * * *
If any of my tax dollars went to government FBI to "investigate" that freak, I'll be disappointed in our President's budget restraint.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:24:59am |
re: #949 lawhawk
You're referring to a picture of a guy with all kinds of marks on his back.
Any word on whether they were due to Ashura? It's great propaganda, but let's just say I am a wee bit cynical when we're talking about a regime like Iran.
They were bruises, not cuts. Ashura self-flagellation is with blades of various types.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:25:16am |
Unrelated to Iraq, but interesting:
Anybody wondering what Code Pink is up to these days?
They've been in Egypt, protesting the speech and Obama over Ghaza, and trying to deliver a letter from the Hamas leaders.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:25:35am |
I'm sorry I asked about those marks. Ick.
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justdanny Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:26:15am |
re: #937 Flyers1974
Irans culture is steeped in intelligence and modern thinking. Despite being conquered by islam and trampled on by many other cultures, and foreign meddling, their culture of forward thinking intelligence over primitveness (islam) has remained alive. They are a wonderful people. They need a revolution desperatly.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:26:24am |
re: #967 pre-Boomer Marine brat
They were bruises, not cuts. Ashura self-flagellation is with blades of various types.
Chains also, no ? (which could/ would leave both cuts and bruises)
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debutaunt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:27:16am |
re: #876 MandyManners
I watch just about anything with Hepburn in it.
The Philadelphia Story is terrific.
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:27:24am |
re: #965 Iron Fist
It might. Those look more like whipmarks than the way a baton damages you. If that were from a club there'd be brusing (probably worse than what this guy shows), possibly even broken bones, instead of wealts.
I'm not saying he wasn't beaten by the police, only that these don't look like baton marks to me. It looks like a more flexible weapon was used here.
I may be way off base here. but it looks to me like strap marks..unless he was wearing a really coarsely woven shirt...was thinking like a thick heavy strap...
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:27:28am |
re: #963 Bobibutu
Why? Why choose Ahamadinejad?)
That is the $64 frikkin' question.
* * * *
Easy answer. Iran's mullahs really really hate us.
(America and Israel, that is).
P.M. Bibi Netanyahu gets to respond forcefully to Iran tonight.
Ought to be fantastic match up. Better than the apologist appeasenik crap spewed by the US President in Cairo.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:27:48am |
re: #967 pre-Boomer Marine brat
They were bruises, not cuts. Ashura self-flagellation is with blades of various types.
Isn't "self-flagellation" redundant in that a flagellant whips himself?
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:28:26am |
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:28:46am |
re: #934 Walter L. Newton
I'm not that skinny, stop that. I am going to be so glad when this week is over. This has been one of the busiest opening weeks we've had in years. New carpet, new lobby furniture, new show, tech week, opening night buffet, busy, busy, busy.
Tomorrow I having a tooth worked on, and I am actually looking forward to being drugged and sitting in that chair.
And I don't have dental coverage, so, this is a hit out of my pocket, enough to have bought a Iphone. But, I need teeth more than an Iphone.
I just had a front post/tooth replaced...boom!...2300$
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:28:57am |
re: #968 reine.de.tout
Unrelated to Iraq, but interesting:
Anybody wondering what Code Pink is up to these days?
They've been in Egypt, protesting the speech and Obama over Ghaza, and trying to deliver a letter from the Hamas leaders.
* * * *
CodePink's women could be John Kerry's body guards, like Khaddafi's all female escorts, in service of jihad.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:29:41am |
re: #973 debutaunt
The Philadelphia Story is terrific.
The actress that played the kid sister was terrific. Almost stole the show if not for the heavyweights in the cast.
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:30:24am |
re: #970 justdanny
Irans culture is steeped in intelligence and modern thinking. Despite being conquered by islam and trampled on by many other cultures, and foreign meddling, their culture of forward thinking intelligence over primitveness (islam) has remained alive. They are a wonderful people. They need a revolution desperatly.
* * *
Iranians have American troops liberating moslems on either side of their country, in Afghanistan & Iraq.
That ought to be enough inspiration to get their own revolutionary party going.
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Flyers1974 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:30:39am |
re: #970 justdanny
Irans culture is steeped in intelligence and modern thinking. Despite being conquered by islam and trampled on by many other cultures, and foreign meddling, their culture of forward thinking intelligence over primitveness (islam) has remained alive. They are a wonderful people. They need a revolution desperatly.
Here is a couple questions: what would Iran look like after a legitimate election? What would Egypt look like? Who would you be more worried about?
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:30:50am |
re: #963 Bobibutu
He was the Chosen One.
Or consider the possibility that Ahmadinejad is acting outside the consent of the mullahs and engaged in a coup against the mullahs. Mitigating against that is Khamenei's statement supporting Ahmadinejad's election.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:30:59am |
re: #982 Flyers1974
Here is a couple questions: what would Iran look like after a legitimate election? What would Egypt look like? Who would you be more worried about?
Egypt.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:31:08am |
re: #978 albusteve
I just had a front post/tooth replaced...boom!...2300$
Well, 350 for a drill, clean out the cavity and then a cap, since top of tooth is gone. That's out of my pocket.
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avanti Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:31:33am |
re: #951 alegrias
* * * *
Yes, IronFist, so true. You'll love this bit I read this week somewhere:Chrysler motors' new owner FIAT is still in court over doing dirty dealings with Saddam Hussein during the UN Oil for Food scandal.
Yes, Italy's FIAT mafiosi motors were selling equipment to Saddam Hussein during SANCTIONS, and now they own Chrysler.
Thank, President Obama, for doing great DUE DILIGENCE before handing over US companies to mafiosi outfits like FIAT's corrupt management, and the UAW's fat cats, with OUR TAX dollars.
Fiat was fined and paid back the bribes they paid Iraq for the "famous 10" bribes that Saddam extracted from Fiat and dozens of companies abroad and in the US. href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/fiat-pays-out-18m-to-settle-iraq-charges-1208617.html" target="_blank">Fiat.
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lawhawk Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:31:42am |
re: #967 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Thanks. Looked more closely and see that they are indeed bruising, not scars from the self-flagellation of Ashura.
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:32:06am |
re: #978 albusteve
I just had a front post/tooth replaced...boom!...2300$
* * * *
You're worth it!
(Amazing how awful people look without teeth in front.)
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:33:01am |
Rumors are starting...
StopAhmadi
"some anti riot forces are speaking in Arabic! apparently imported from Lebanon"
This is why it's best for the US to not get openly involved or make supportive statements. Open foreign meddling would be frowned upon.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:33:57am |
re: #991 Killgore Trout
I saw something earlier about forces in Tehran praising Hezbullah.
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legalpad Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:34:18am |
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avanti Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:34:30am |
re: #987 avanti
Fiat was fined and paid back the bribes they paid Iraq for the "famous 10" bribes that Saddam extracted from Fiat and dozens of companies abroad and in the US.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:34:37am |
re: #943 J.S.
Why choose Ahamadinejad?
re: #963 Bobibutu
That is the $64 frikkin' question.
See the Tehran Bureau article linked to in this comment of mine yesterday.
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:34:47am |
re: #986 Iron Fist
Could be. It could even be something like a belt. The wealts look to be, what, maybe an inch wide? With a baton you really only hit with the top two or three inches. It wouldn't leave long marks like that. At least it doesn't in my experience, and I've done a lot of work with batons.
Could be...a belt or something like...first thing that popped into my head was a lifting sling (or something similar)
looks like it would be difficult to self-inflict some of those bruises though...like I said, may be WAY off base here though
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:35:11am |
re: #987 avanti
Fiat was fined and paid back the bribes they paid Iraq for the "famous 10" bribes that Saddam extracted from Fiat and dozens of companies abroad and in the US. href="[Link: www.independent.co.uk...] target="_blank">Fiat.
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:35:17am |
re: #988 lawhawk
There was a report of a western news reporter also being beaten with a baton...(reported by CNN)...the reporter (didn't catch who he was working for) stated that the beatings were indiscriminate -- women, old people, young, didn't matter. Also reports that the police would ride about on motorcycles, and strike people with batons...(later Ahmadinejad had the audacity to condemn the motorcycle people as being "hooligans.")
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:35:20am |
re: #987 avanti
Fiat was fined and paid back the bribes they paid Iraq for the "famous 10" bribes that Saddam extracted from Fiat and dozens of companies abroad and in the US. href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/fiat-pays-out-18m-to-settle-iraq-charges-1208617.html" target="_blank">Fiat.
* * * *
Avanti, Et tu Brutus? You're defending Saddam's enablers who opposed the UN's own rules! You're so fair & balanced...like Solomon the wise. NOT
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:36:18am |
re: #984 Sharmuta
Egypt.
Absolutely. The Egyptian population is absolutely radicalized to critical mass. Nasserism didn't deliver what it promised, and the Egyptian rulers never differentiated themselves sufficiently from their British predecessors. Egypt, in the eyes of the Egyptians might as well still be a colony of a Western nation. It's in all reality the birth place of the modernized strain of Islamic extremism, and of Al Qaeda specifically.
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:36:18am |
re: #990 alegrias
* * * *
You're worth it!(Amazing how awful people look without teeth in front.)
4 months without a front tooth...could not say 'fuck you' properly at all
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:36:43am |
re: #998 HoosierHoops
What the Hell? You're link did not work and my post did not take...dang it!
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:37:20am |
re: #991 Killgore Trout
Rumors are starting...
StopAhmadiThis is why it's best for the US to not get openly involved or make supportive statements. Open foreign meddling would be frowned upon.
* * * *
Let Hezbollah be Hezbollah! I can't believe you're advocating letting Lebanese Hezbollah thugs beat people up un-armed Iranian people, BECAUSE Hezbollah has weapons!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:37:42am |
re: #976 MandyManners
Isn't "self-flagellation" redundant in that a flagellant whips himself?
I bow to the expert in these matters.
PIMF ... bow submit
... hmm, maybe I oughta quit while I'm ahead still alive
/:D
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debutaunt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:37:45am |
re: #958 Walter L. Newton
No, but some soft velvet ties, a velvet rope, blindfold... oh... never mind...
...and?...and?...
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:37:48am |
re: #1002 Scion9
Absolutely. The Egyptian population is absolutely radicalized to critical mass. Nasserism didn't deliver what it promised, and the Egyptian rulers never differentiated themselves sufficiently from their British predecessors. Egypt, in the eyes of the Egyptians might as well still be a colony of a Western nation. It's in all reality the birth place of the modernized strain of Islamic extremism, and of Al Qaeda specifically.
Indeed- the birthplace of the muslim brotherhood would worry me much, much more than the Persians.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:38:15am |
re: #992 Sharmuta
That's entirely possible. It's looking increasingly likely that this isn't so much about the election and the candidate who lost. It's starting to look like the mullahs vs the secularists. The implications of a secular Iran are huge. It really would change the world and might even put a serious dent in global jihad and caliphate dreams.
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DisturbedEma Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:38:23am |
re: #1000 alegrias
* * * *
Avanti, Et tu Brutus? You're defending Saddam's enablers who opposed the UN's own rules! You're so fair & balanced...like Solomon the wise. NOT
Ahhh, fair and balanced. . .never has having a lack of conviction and courage been so maligned. . .
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:38:38am |
Shug
Realwest
Thanos
Zimriel
and all others involved in the "soldiers running down kids in Iraq" story from last night:
I have made a statement at the end of that thread.
Here it is:
I feel compelled to clarify.
As stated above, I do not doubt Shug's sincerity. He has emphasized that he told the story as he heard it to the best of his ability.
That leaves us with a simple bifurcation of possibilities. Either his friend the pediatric surgeon was telling war stories the way people often do, with embellishments, for whatever reason - to make herself seem more important, to underline the horrors of war, because she saw it in a movie, the possibilities are endless - and the story is essentially false. Or the story is essentially true and we have a huge effin' problem on our hands.
Where I fault Shug is for being naive enough to come in here and tell that kind of story expecting everybody to draw the same conclusion from it. LGF is famous for being a tough room where we fact-check your ass. Are we all supposed to accept that horrible tale at face value and then shrug it off as an example, to use Shug's own words, of "what our brave armed forces see and do each and every day - God bless them all"?
Shug had to expect someone (e.g. Thanos) would question the story's veracity. And that others would allow that it might be true but not accept that it's OK or "just war" or "Just War" or a reason to salute the flag.
I don't know what to think, but I do know this: Everything I've heard about our troops from people who've been there with them would seem to say that such things - if they ever happen - are the extreme exception and not standard operating procedure. That they're certainly not done and then made light of by saying "we're lucky they [the run-over kids] didn't explode". Everybody knows about suicide bombers in Iraq but so far as I remember nobody ever sent kids out as bombs. I think I would recall something like that. To the contrary, I've read a lot about our real brave troops putting themselves at risk rather than do such things. If it was ever done then either under extreme duress - incoming mortar fire or what have you - or it was a goddamn war crime. Either way it needs to be investigated.
So here's the bottom line, Shug: I'm giving you 24 hours from now, 12:30 EDT, June 14 - until the same time tomorrow, June 15 - to clarify this situation. Failing that, I will forward this thread to the JAG Corps and let the chips fall where they may. I have made a screen shot just in case.
That is all.
Charles has been notified.
When and as necessary I will provide my real name and address to the authorities.
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:38:44am |
re: #1003 albusteve
4 months without a front tooth...could not say 'fuck you' properly at all
* * * *
And who would want to accept your offer!
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Racer X Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:38:51am |
We're gonna have a parade.
Neener neener neener.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:39:47am |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:39:53am |
re: #1006 alegrias
I can't believe you're advocating letting Lebanese Hezbollah thugs beat people up un-armed Iranian people
I'm not.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:40:17am |
re: #1010 Killgore Trout
That's entirely possible. It's looking increasingly likely that this isn't so much about the election and the candidate who lost. It's starting to look like the mullahs vs the secularists. The implications of a secular Iran are huge. It really would change the world and might even put a serious dent in global jihad and caliphate dreams.
Absolutely it would! The mullahs are funding hamas and hizbullah! Without that money, the enemies of Israel and the West would be crippled.
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debutaunt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:40:40am |
re: #977 MandyManners
Better than the one with Grace Kelly.
I also like that musical version. Celeste Holm is hilarious.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:40:48am |
re: #1015 Bloodnok
I might re-work that. I think I could improve it.
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:40:50am |
re: #1010 Killgore Trout
That's entirely possible. It's looking increasingly likely that this isn't so much about the election and the candidate who lost. It's starting to look like the mullahs vs the secularists. The implications of a secular Iran are huge. It really would change the world and might even put a serious dent in global jihad and caliphate dreams.
* * * *
Duh. Iraq has already achieved this next door. IRAQ's people are freer than any other islamic republic, thanks to our massive assist, blood, sweat & tears.
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pingjockey Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:41:53am |
re: #1017 Sharmuta
Yep. Cut off the funding and they'll have to look elsewhere. IIRC, Iran has deep pockets, maybe the replacement funders(?) won't have as deep pockets.
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:42:01am |
re: #999 J.S.
the beatings were indiscriminate -- women, old people, young, didn't matter. Also reports that the police would ride about on motorcycles, and strike people with batons..
I'm reminded of mounted Dragoons riding down rioters in one of the opening scenes of Doctor Zhivago.
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Bob Dillon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:42:20am |
re: #975 alegrias
The ruling mullah are all billionaires... They want to run the islamic world their way (shia). They are in the minority. The presidency has been passed around peacefully while the existing president and his cronies all get a piece of the pie.
Why upset the apple cart?
I don't think their feelings about the great satan run them in this picture.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:42:25am |
re: #1018 Iron Fist
This is another post in which the post number is not displayed. This has happened repeatedly this morning.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:42:26am |
re: #1017 Sharmuta
...and Hamas too. The modern revival of political Islam and modern Islamic terrorism really started with the Iranian revolution. The failure of that theocracy would have a lot of implications.
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:42:31am |
re: #1016 Killgore Trout
I'm not.
* * *
OK, glad to hear you're not defending Hezbollah's armed assaults on Iranian dissidents.
Ballsy PM Bibi Netanyahu might slap down Hezbollah & Iran tonight, however.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:42:35am |
re: #1018 Iron Fist
I disagree. I think Iran has it in them to be a global threat. Egypt, not so much. They may both be screaming nuts, religio-ideologically, but the difference is clear. Iran is already exporting terror. Egypt may be turning a blind eye to weapons smuggling into Hamasistan, but those weapons come from Iran.
But the question wasn't about current conditions. If both Iran and Egypt were to have truly fair and honest elections, I would be more concerned about the results in Egypt. The Iranians, I believe, would vote for real reform and freedom. Egypt would elect the muslim brotherhood.
If the mullahs go down, hamas and hizbullah's funding would go buh-bye.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:42:45am |
re: #1020 Sharmuta
I might re-work that. I think I could improve it.
If you take out my favorite bit:
We'll soup the squirrel
or squirrel the soup
...I may never talk to you again. That's a promise. ;)
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debutaunt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:42:57am |
re: #980 Bloodnok
The actress that played the kid sister was terrific. Almost stole the show if not for the heavyweights in the cast.
Her fake rich kid imitation was so much fun.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:42:57am |
re: #991 Killgore Trout
Rumors are starting...
StopAhmadi
This is why it's best for the US to not get openly involved or make supportive statements. Open foreign meddling would be frowned upon.
Permit me a Fantasy Island scenario: what if things get bloody, (including active involvement by Pasdaran military units), AND it comes out ... inside Iran ... that Hezbollah imports are actively involved in violently suppressing the demonstrators.
What might the mood be inside the Artesh?
/fantasy mode off
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Racer X Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:43:04am |
re: #1025 MandyManners
This is another post in which the post number is not displayed. This has happened repeatedly this morning.
Posting from the spy?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:43:10am |
re: #1029 Bloodnok
Oh- the opening would stay the same- it's perfect.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:43:33am |
re: #1025 MandyManners
Because that's how spy posting works.
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:43:43am |
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:45:19am |
re: #1035 albusteve
my life has been so topsy turvy I hardly noticed after a bit...just one more thing...beside, the old lady down the road is toothless and she seems to like me alot!
By gum, that's great.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:45:33am |
re: #1012 Cato the Elder
Shug
Realwest
Thanos
Zimrieland all others involved in the "soldiers running down kids in Iraq" story from last night:
I have made a statement at the end of that thread.
Cato...I've read your post several times...I'm not getting it...Could you explain some more of your call out? I'm serious Cato...I don't get it...Please explain some more for this boy...Hope today finds you well
Here it is:Charles has been notified.
When and as necessary I will provide my real name and address to the authorities.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:45:36am |
Gonna' go make chicken salad from last night roasted chicken. bbl
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:46:04am |
re: #1026 Killgore Trout
...and Hamas too. The modern revival of political Islam and modern Islamic terrorism really started with the Iranian revolution. The failure of that theocracy would have a lot of implications.
more like 1965 with Arafat and his 'Palis'
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:46:08am |
Anyone else see reports the GITMO Uighurs President Obama forked over to his friend Dr. Ewart Brown of Bermuda, are vacationing in a beachside cottage in Bermuda, going to a "mens warehouse" for new wardrobes, and are free to roam town, with a "minder" but otherwise free to look for work, get visas & leave Bermuda?
Catherine Herridge of Fox News reported on these guys from GITMO, and now she's talking to the freed Uighurs in Bermuda!
How many millions of dollars are we paying for these beach bums' Bermuda bash?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:46:12am |
re: #1031 pre-Boomer Marine brat
It's not really that far fetched. As I recall one of the catalysts for the Iranians storming our embassy was a rumor that the CIA was involved in a shooting incident during the Hajj in Mecca. It doesn't have to even to be true to have a significant effect.
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justdanny Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:46:19am |
re: #982 Flyers1974
Here is a couple questions: what would Iran look like after a legitimate election? What would Egypt look like? Who would you be more worried about?
For me anyway the answer to that is obvious. Iranians arent Arab muslims. Arab muslims are center in the jihad maelstrom. Egyptian muslims arent African muslims. In Darfur for example you have Arab muslims cleansing the grounds of not Christians or Jews, but African muslims. Arab muslims want ethnic purity as well as religious purity.
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:46:55am |
re: #1018 Iron Fist
I disagree. I think Iran has it in them to be a global threat. Egypt, not so much. They may both be screaming nuts, religio-ideologically, but the difference is clear. Iran is already exporting terror. Egypt may be turning a blind eye to weapons smuggling into Hamasistan, but those weapons come from Iran.
That is because the actual rulers of Egypt are not religiously motivated screaming nuts, but the population is, which is a situation that is sort of inverted in Iran. The hypothetical was, which electorate, given a real democratic Republic with free and fair elections would elect a worst government and the answer was Egypt.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:47:08am |
re: #1038 HoosierHoops
My comment didn't post...That's twice today...There is a code issue going on..
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:47:13am |
re: #1023 Scion9
I'm reminded of mounted Dragoons riding down
rioterspeaceful demonstrators in one of the opening scenes of Doctor Zhivago.
Corrected, per the movie
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:47:33am |
BBIAB -It's about 150 degrees in this laundromat. I need some air.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:48:15am |
re: #1041 albusteve
But that was localized. This didn't really take off world wide until after the Iranian revolution. The first suicide bombing was an Iranian against the Iraqi's. The end of the Iranian theocracy certainly won't end world wide terrorism but it might put a dent in it.
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:48:19am |
re: #1028 Sharmuta
"Reform" -- yeah, sure. So, what do you think that term really means? do you think that Mousavi is about "reform"?
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Racer X Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:49:12am |
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:49:22am |
re: #1023 Scion9
I'm reminded of mounted Dragoons riding down rioters in one of the opening scenes of Doctor Zhivago.
* * * *
That faux Russian Moscow scene was filmed in Spain, under former Generalisimo Franco.
Franco was not amused that the actors playing workers protesting Czarist troops were singing the communist international hymn, which Stalinists sang and taught to international communists fighting in Spain during its Civil War 1936-1939.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:49:39am |
re: #1039 MandyManners
Gonna' go make chicken salad from last night roasted chicken. bbl
Yum yum Yum...
Lots of fruit in Chicken Salad rocks...
Blame Mandy this morning...Yummy salad thread
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:49:43am |
From Huffpo...
Iranians on Twitter during the june clashes
A very handy little list.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:50:22am |
re: #1050 J.S.
I think the Iranians want to stop living in a theocracy- regardless if the mullah selected candidates can deliver on it or not.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:50:39am |
re: #1038 HoosierHoops
Hoops,
Rather than try to recap the whole thing, I'd ask you to go to the thread (from last night, on the unrest in Iran) and read it for yourself. There were many people involved. Start with Shug's first comment on the thread and go from there.
Best,
--Cato
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:51:22am |
re: #1046 HoosierHoops
My comment didn't post...That's twice today...There is a code issue going on..
I discovered that using a character IMMEDIATELY after a forward-arrow would delete everything after that. Were you doing anything unusual?
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Racer X Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:51:59am |
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:53:03am |
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pingjockey Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:53:03am |
re: #1059 Racer X
They have won the Super Bowl and Stanley Cup!
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Macker Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:53:03am |
re: #1056 Sharmuta
I think the Iranians want to stop living in a theocracy- regardless if the mullah selected candidates can deliver on it or not.
Then they better get up off their collective asses and depose said Mullahs. Otherwise, someone else may do it for them, and take them along for the ride.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:53:43am |
Crazy Pam on Iran...
I feel for those terrified souls marching through Tehran blindly acting out in hope that it might effect any change. An exercise in futility. If they value their lives, they will flee the country.
...
Crowds are protesting at Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's alleged 'rigged' victory. The allegations of fixed elections come after polls showed that half of the electorate wanted Ahmadinejad. But if that is so, if half of the electorate wanted this bloodthirsty jihadi annihilationist, then what are we talking about?
...
Bottom line, this is a non story. It's smoke and mirrors. The Mullahs are running the mahdi madhouse, and they have their world agenda. This is nonsense.
...
It doesn't matter who won. It's an annihilationist state.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:54:59am |
re: #1064 Killgore Trout
That's what I've been saying, right there:
But if that is so, if half of the electorate wanted this bloodthirsty jihadi annihilationist, then what are we talking about?
They. Don't. Care.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:55:00am |
re: #1058 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I discovered that using a character IMMEDIATELY after a forward-arrow would delete everything after that. Were you doing anything unusual?
Other than swimming laps in the pool this morning...being on vacation..drinking beer at 6am in the morning...And heading to the fishing Cabin in the morning?
Nope nothing unusual here :)
Everything seems pretty normal...
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:55:02am |
re: #1056 Sharmuta
I think the Iranians want to stop living in a theocracy- regardless if the mullah selected candidates can deliver on it or not.
* * * *
Yes, Young Iranians think their mullahs are corrupt pigs with fingers in every pie, to use infidel American words.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:55:52am |
re: #1065 Sharmuta
It also seems that she's worried that she might lose an enemy.
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pingjockey Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:56:55am |
re: #1067 alegrias
Except the Iranians don't have the 2nd Amend. What they do have is the military and the IRG, who are quite happy with the mad mullahs.
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Macker Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:57:31am |
re: alegrias
* * * *
Yes, Young Iranians think their mullahs are corrupt pigs withfingersdicks in everypieasshole, to use infidel American words.
There, fixed that for ya!
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:58:13am |
re: #1068 taxfreekiller
realwest
#718not until Jessie got a shot at the sniper and we bushwacked hard ass 3/4 mile upslope to where the tree was, up until then, she got one kia and 4 upper body hits, she was honored as a skilled warrior and we went back to work putting out sensors,
like that or you end up with a messed up head, IMO.
You here? I got a story for you
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:58:19am |
re: #1050 J.S.
"Reform" -- yeah, sure. So, what do you think that term really means? do you think that Mousavi is about "reform"?
Of course, just not the reforms we in the West would prefer. He advocated lessening the harassment by the religious police, opening up more rights for women, saner economic policies, and better relations with the west, especially the E.U. He would of continued support for terrorism and meddling in the M.E. through Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, Southern Iraq (Sadr) etc. as well as continuing building the bomb. Given a candidate that they could openly support many Iranians would not even support those policies, with the exception of the bomb. Her point was that elections in Egypt would probably result in a Muslim Brotherhood government.
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:58:50am |
re: #1050 J.S.
"Reform" -- yeah, sure. So, what do you think that term really means? do you think that Mousavi is about "reform"?
The Mullahs selected Mousavi to run. It's hard to say what Iran would select given an actual primary process to select their own candidates I suppose, but there isn't any concrete reason to believe they would select the guys that the Ayatollah is rubber stamping.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:59:54am |
re: #1064 Killgore Trout
Crazy Pam on Iran...
That is the rant of a self-righteous asshole
/possibly ignorant, too, ... just to be generous
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:00:18am |
Hey y'all - just back from doing "chores" what are we all talking about?
If Pittsburg is the 29th best city in the World to live in, I'd sure hate to see what the criteria are for that ranking!
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:00:30am |
re: #1076 pre-Boomer Marine brat
That is the rant of a self-righteous asshole
/possibly ignorant, too, ... just to be generous
Not to mention almost certainly drunk.
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pingjockey Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:01:01am |
re: #1076 pre-Boomer Marine brat
"Pam, you ignorant slut"!
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:01:09am |
re: #1077 realwest
Not to mention that if it's true, the the World is in deep-doo doo!
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:01:40am |
re: #1077 realwest
Hey y'all - just back from doing "chores" what are we all talking about?
If Pittsburg is the 29th best city in the World to live in, I'd sure hate to see what the criteria are for that ranking!
Real, see my #1012. It was originally a reply addressed to you on the other thread.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:01:57am |
re: #1066 HoosierHoops
Other than swimming laps in the pool this morning...being on vacation..drinking beer at 6am in the morning...And heading to the fishing Cabin in the morning?
Nope nothing unusual here :)
Everything seems pretty normal...
I MEAN IN THE TEXT IN YOUR COMMENT WHICH DIDN'T POST !
/not ranting ... :D ... just jealous
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:02:06am |
re: #1080 realwest
Not to mention that if it's true, the the World is in deep-doo doo!
What's kick'n Chick'n?
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irongrampa Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:02:50am |
So how do the Iranians who seem to have finally gagged on their gov't sustain their protest?
Unless they have some INTERNAL support inside said gov't (military?), won't this protest be suppressed as others have been?
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J.S. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:03:56am |
re: #1073 Rancher
Mousavi, imo, would have been the perfect "cover" -- the outward appeal in the West to the belief that Mousavi's "a reformer!" when, in any meaningful sense, he wouldn't be...(ie, he'd support getting the bomb, support the Hezbollah/HAMAS, etc., as you note.) The question of staging elections in Egypt -- well, of course, that would (in all probability) bring in a Muslim Brotherhood government. There was a Gallup poll conducted last year (2008), in Egypt, Iran and Turkey -- the conclusion from Gallup was that, yes, indeed, Egypt would turn, most likely, radical (if given open/free elections).
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:04:44am |
re: #1080 realwest
Not to mention that if it's true, the the World is in deep-doo doo!
I like that town...good people, good food, scenic along the rivers, lots to do
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:06:01am |
re: #1081 Cato the Elder
Well Cato y'all go ahead and do what you want to do.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:07:09am |
re: #1083 HoosierHoops
Ya know, I can see your vacation cabin bound smile right through my monitor!
Have FUN y'all!
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:07:10am |
re: #1087 realwest
Well Cato y'all go ahead and do what you want to do.
Not at all what I want, Real. What I feel honor-bound to do as a citizen.
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:07:55am |
re: #1063 Iron Fist
In the Sudan the Arab Mohammedans pretty much finished off the African Christians and African animists before they started in on the African Mohammedans. They have priorities, and one of those is to crush the kafir first.
We should keep that in mind when we are dealing with them.
Khartoum is said to be one of the safest Muslim cities for infidels in the entire region. The Darfuri were Muslim of an animist-syncretic variety, and were more into their tribal ties than the Sudanese governments preferred version of Islam.
The Sudanese government are predominantly black Africans just like the Darfuri though. The Darfuri-style syncretic Islam that takes into acount local customs rather than strict literalism isn't uncommon even among Arabs, but I think because the Sudanese aren't Arab they are scrutinized more by their Arab allies and held to a 'higher' standard in regards to being 'good' Muslims, hence Darfuri heretics must go while they would be tolerated in pretty much any Arab muslim country.
You see a similar kind of inter-Muslim ethnic strife between South Asians, Persians and Arabs, and for that matter between Egyptian Arabs and Arabian Arabs.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:08:16am |
re: #1082 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I MEAN IN THE TEXT IN YOUR COMMENT WHICH DIDN'T POST !
/not ranting ... :D ... just jealous
Hey dude! need more dog pics!
I am blessed to spend one week a month at our Cabin on the lake till Oct.
I'm dragging some Lizards up there this year...You should pray for their souls.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:08:44am |
re: #1086 albusteve
Guess what, so do I! But I'm talking about the best cities IN THE WORLD and although I do like Pittsburg a lot, I'm not sure but that I couldn't pick out some cities right here in the USA that I wouldn't rate higher.
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alegrias Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:12:04am |
re: #1070 pingjockey
Except the Iranians don't have the 2nd Amend. What they do have is the military and the IRG, who are quite happy with the mad mullahs.
* * * *
C'mon--young Iranians have TWITTER & FACEBOOK, according to leftists, they can CHANGE THE WORLD, re-arrange the World, etc.
All you need is TWITTER & FACEBOOK & Ipod...
(It worked so well at Tien An Men 20 years ago.)
When will they ever learn,
when will leftists ever learn.
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albusteve Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:12:38am |
re: #1092 realwest
Guess what, so do I! But I'm talking about the best cities IN THE WORLD and although I do like Pittsburg a lot, I'm not sure but that I couldn't pick out some cities right here in the USA that I wouldn't rate higher.
agreed...maybe #1 for hoagies is what they meant
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avanti Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:17:39am |
re: #1000 alegrias
* * * *
Avanti, Et tu Brutus? You're defending Saddam's enablers who opposed the UN's own rules! You're so fair & balanced...like Solomon the wise. NOT
Nope, just posting a informational link. Fiat as involved in a few million of the billions in International bribes and many were US corporations too. Lots of companies had dirty hands. Some bribes went on post Saddam too, shirty deal.
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quickjustice Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:18:36am |
re: #821 Killgore Trout
"The situation in Iran could potentially change the world." Do you mean the rigged election? Just because Sullivan and the lefty blogosphere is panting and drooling over this one doesn't mean a democratic revolution. Lenin just stole the election from Trotsky? So what?
With Obama in the White House, it's DEFINITELY not gonna happen. He'd rather make a deal with the mullahs that sells out the kids, and he will.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:20:44am |
re: #1091 HoosierHoops
Hey dude! need more dog pics!
I am blessed to spend one week a month at our Cabin on the lake till Oct.
I'm dragging some Lizards up there this year...You should pray for their souls.
IF I'M NOT INVITED YOU SHOULD PRAY FOR YOUR ...
*slapping hand over mouth*
/:D ... have a great time!
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avanti Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:21:26am |
re: #1001 Iron Fist
Link is broken. Anyway, they paid it back after they were caught? That'smighty nice of them.
Please. Sniff what you are going to post before you post it.
Never did I defend them, just pointing out they were found gulity of the charge you brought up and were fined. A small correction from them still being in court.
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Flyers1974 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:11:44am |
re: #1056 Sharmuta
I think the Iranians want to stop living in a theocracy- regardless if the mullah selected candidates can deliver on it or not.
I think many people are thinking of the Iran situation in terms of which US president or party deserves the credit and/or blame. And this is difficult in a situation where we don't know if anything significant will and happen and if it does, whether that happening will be good or bad. Thomas Friedman can be a bit pretentious at times, and he appears to me to create witty story headlines first, and a story to match second, but the man has a lot of knowledge of Iran. He has been stating for years that Iran is the most likely candidate to undergo some sort of serious change (and likely for the better) based in large part on the Iranian youths' intense dislike of the mullahs.
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