Sure to be argued over, here’s the trailer for the soon to be released Charles Darwin biopic Creation, with Paul Bettany playing the most troublesome scientist of all time. Adapted from the book Annie’s Box: Charles Darwin, His Daughter, and Human Evolution by Randal Keynes.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:43:27pm |
Please keep this thread viewable by the general public, Charles. I just went grocery shopping and I've got a lot of soda charcoal ready for a troll roast. Let the trolls see; I'm HUNGRY!
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:43:40pm |
Wow. That private thread sure was fun. Can you believe the things we said in there? Charles would never let us say those things out here.
/
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:45:46pm |
I've just been waiting for a thread like this to express my newfound respect for opposable thumbs.....broke one of mine last week.....developing a new appreciation = )
Huge evolutionary development = )
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HelloDare Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:45:54pm |
Okay everybody -- put your clothes back on. Private thread is over.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:46:29pm |
re: #2 Bloodnok
Wow. That private thread sure was fun. Can you believe the things we said in there? Charles would never let us say those things out here.
/
I'm glad we were able to finalize our master plot.
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Kronocide Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:47:48pm |
Did we still keep our Zionist pay rate or does it change in the private threads?
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:48:04pm |
If the thread isn't public does it affect the ads? just curious...
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Neutral President Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:48:22pm |
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itellu3times Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:48:53pm |
Charles, private thread gllitch.
When not logged in, I went to the thread.
I clicked on the comments link - nothing happens. Ok.
I log in. OK.
I click on the comment link - page reloads, no comments. Wrong?
I click on the comment link - comments, at last.
Also, getting the slow char echo now here on a short thread.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:49:27pm |
re: #2 Bloodnok
Wow. That private thread sure was fun. Can you believe the things we said in there? Charles would never let us say those things out here.
/
It's still goin' awn. 1200 comments in four hours on a Sunday afternoon.
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poteen Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:49:54pm |
// A creation thread, and not a private one. I'll leave my pants on.
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baier Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:50:01pm |
Some people could learn more from Darwin's personal life than his theory.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:50:02pm |
I will make a point to pay full price for this film when I go see it.
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:50:44pm |
re: #2 Bloodnok
Wow. That private thread sure was fun. Can you believe the things we said in there? Charles would never let us say those things out here.
/
Actually....that's kind of interesting thought.....wonder if privateness will affect the level of moderation.....
Not that it makes a difference to most people.....just curious
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VioletTiger Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:51:03pm |
Good evening lizards. I missed the private thread. I hope you all didn't have TOO much fun.
Looks like a good film....No one can push Charles.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:51:09pm |
Paul Bettany, what an inspired choice!
For those who didn't see it, he plays the proto-Darwinist Royal Navy ship's surgeon Stephen Maturin in Master and Commander, the brilliant film adaptation of several plots from Patrick O'Brien's immortal Aubrey/Maturin series of novels set in the Napoleonic Wars era. Captain Jack Aubrey is nobly portrayed by Russell Crowe.
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itellu3times Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:51:18pm |
playing the most troublesome scientist of all time.
They're all trouble, Galileo, Newton, Einstein, AlGore, ...
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:52:13pm |
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:52:31pm |
re: #2 Bloodnok
Wow. That private thread sure was fun. Can you believe the things we said in there? Charles would never let us say those things out here.
/
Teehee. If "Savage" only knew what goes on in there.
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:52:40pm |
re: #16 Cato the Elder
Paul Bettany, what an inspired choice!
For those who didn't see it, he plays the proto-Darwinist Royal Navy ship's surgeon Stephen Maturin in Master and Commander, the brilliant film adaptation of several plots from Patrick O'Brien's immortal Aubrey/Maturin series of novels set in the Napoleonic Wars era. Captain Jack Aubrey is nobly portrayed by Russell Crowe.
Didn't realize that was the same guy.....loved that movie
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itellu3times Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:53:03pm |
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:54:50pm |
re: #20 srb1976
Didn't realize that was the same guy.....loved that movie
Quite.
As a totally trivial aside, my saint's name is Mathurin (Maturinus in Latin).
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:54:55pm |
Good Evening Lizards! It was beautiful in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today.
So, the makers of this movie chose to make the actors look absolutely hideous? That's hard to do with Jennifer Connolly. Why?
HOw are you-all and what are we talking about
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:55:21pm |
re: #19 Cato the Elder
Teehee. If "Savage" only knew what goes on in there.
Flip his lid, he would.
Or worse.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:57:35pm |
re: #19 Cato the Elder
Teehee. If "Savage" only knew what goes on in there.
He'll probably find out. But his finding out will likely smoke one of his spies.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 7:59:36pm |
LOL: "What are you so scared of? It's only a theory."
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:00:26pm |
Out of curiosity, I wonder how linking private comments on a non-private thread works. Let's find out.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:00:33pm |
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:00:52pm |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:00:59pm |
re: #32 Sharmuta
Out of curiosity, I wonder how linking private comments on a non-private thread works. Let's find out.
It works.
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itellu3times Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:01:03pm |
Lakers Lakers Lakers!
Not the best teams in any final, but the games were pretty interesting anyway. Orlando was a Cinderalla that got to the ball, but didn't get the prince. Kobe gets *his* championship, and Derrick Fisher, who joined the Lakers the same year Kobe did, played a big role. Gasol gets a ring, Odom gets a ring. Ariza and Bynum get rings and might get more in the future. Good stories.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:01:06pm |
re: #32 Sharmuta
Out of curiosity, I wonder how linking private comments on a non-private thread works. Let's find out.
I could see that while logged out.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:01:31pm |
re: #35 reine.de.tout
But did you log out when you tried that?
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Neutral President Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:01:41pm |
re: #32 Sharmuta
Out of curiosity, I wonder how linking private comments on a non-private thread works. Let's find out.
You can see it if you aren't logged in.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:03:21pm |
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itellu3times Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:04:00pm |
re: #40 jaunte
So the private thread has a peephole.
omg the hoi polloi are going to steal our recipe for peccary pie!
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:04:29pm |
What a relief....for a second there I had 3 spinning wheels at the bottom of the screen....thought maybe Sharmuta had divided by 0 = )
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:04:31pm |
re: #40 jaunte
So the private thread has a peephole.
I doubt many of us would link a private thread comment on a non-private, but it's always good to test the new stuff out.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:04:51pm |
re: #42 itellu3times
We'll still have the hickory-dickory duck.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:05:55pm |
re: #45 Sharmuta
I doubt many of us would link a private thread comment on a non-private, but it's always good to test the new stuff out.
True, everyone would see who did it.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:08:07pm |
re: #2 Bloodnok
Wow. That private thread sure was fun. Can you believe the things we said in there? Charles would never let us say those things out here.
/
Nothing held back. Private lives laid bare.
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ArmyWife Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:09:18pm |
Good night, troops. My thoughts are with the people of Iran.
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razorbacker Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:10:38pm |
For those of you who have a hard time believeing in evolution, you should check out what the hills of NW Arkansas have evolved into.
A Stunning View of the Springdale Mountain Range
I'm in fantastic physical shape, being able to effortlessly climb any of these mountains around Springdale without any altitude equipment, guides, or even ropes and mountain picks.
Sometimes I amaze even myself.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:10:45pm |
I tried out a new recipe tonight. Israeli fried chicken with homemade za'atar spice.
It was an 11 of deliciousness!
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:11:19pm |
Just as an aside: Kindle owners can get "The Voyage of the Beagle" for 99 cents and "Origin of Species" for free.
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:12:23pm |
I saw somewhere that Dinnerjacket's rival was arrested? has anyone heard anything like that?
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Idle Drifter Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:12:45pm |
Wow, this looks like a really great movie! It puts a very human face to Darwin since most people just see him as some guy from history. To another portion of the population a monster that they wish to hang the Nazi war crimes around his neck. Jennifer Connelly has come a long way from Labyrinth.
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:13:43pm |
re: #53 srb1976
I saw somewhere that Dinnerjacket's rival was arrested? has anyone heard anything like that?
House arrest / "guarded for their own protection", was the dominant rumour last night...
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:13:50pm |
Watching the trailer a second time- I really like the little clip of Darwin with the ape touching hands. What elegant symbolism.
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:15:34pm |
re: #55 Zimriel
House arrest / "guarded for their own protection", was the dominant rumour last night...
Thanks....saw it somewhere...can't remember, but couldn't find any mention anywhere else.....
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:15:36pm |
Re, evolution: Buy your own Genome for 48 grand [h/t, GNXP at Science Blogs]
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:16:00pm |
re: Sharmuta
Watching the trailer a second time- I really like the little clip of Darwin with the ape touching hands. What elegant symbolism.
Is the trailer downloadable? I have a major problem trying to watch video when it is being run through a browser.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:16:05pm |
Hitch: Don't Call What Happened in Iran Last Week an Election
It was a crudely stage-managed insult to everyone involved.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:17:01pm |
re: #56 Sharmuta
Watching the trailer a second time- I really like the little clip of Darwin with the ape touching hands. What elegant symbolism.
Not to mention the visual reference to Michelangelo's "Creation" from the Sistine Chapel.
Now that's going to twist some knickers, if not 'splode some heads!
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itellu3times Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:17:36pm |
re: #58 Zimriel
Re, evolution: Buy your own Genome for 48 grand [h/t, GNXP at Science Blogs]
Too high, ... but maybe Obama will pay for it.
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Gearhead Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:18:03pm |
re: #58 Zimriel
Re, evolution: Buy your own Genome for 48 grand [h/t, GNXP at Science Blogs]
That's an awful lot for a piece of lawn decoration.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:18:13pm |
re: #60 Killgore Trout
Hitch: Don't Call What Happened in Iran Last Week an Election
It was a crudely stage-managed insult to everyone involved.
But only because Jimmy C. wasn't there to monitor it!
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Ayeless in Ghazi Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:18:37pm |
re: #56 Sharmuta
Watching the trailer a second time- I really like the little clip of Darwin with the ape touching hands. What elegant symbolism.
Nice echo of a certain church ceiling painting by a certain italian dude, I thought.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:19:03pm |
re: Cato the Elder
But only because Jimmy C. wasn't there to monitor it!
He was too busy in Israel chastising Jews for not just giving.
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Buck Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:20:28pm |
OT:American Gays and Lesbians Feel Betrayed by Obama
I am surprised, but I am really starting to like SPIEGEL!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:20:55pm |
re: #60 Killgore Trout
I love the opening:
I went to the last major Ahmadinejad rally and got the whiff of what I imagine fascism to have been all about. Lots of splotchy boys who can't get a date are given guns and told they're special.
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Gearhead Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:21:09pm |
I also wanted to thank those who posted the minutes of the latest meetings of the BilderBurghers and the Fraternal Order of Black Helicopter Pilots in the previous thread.
*snicker*
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jaunte Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:22:18pm |
re: #60 Killgore Trout
Hitch: Don't Call What Happened in Iran Last Week an Election
Upding this link again. Everyone read.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:24:08pm |
7:45 AM in Iran right now. Mousavi’s calling for a rally in Tehran this (Monday) afternoon. Strike on Tuesday.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:24:28pm |
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Tully Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:25:02pm |
Paul Bettany is one of the finest actors working today, and it's good to see him get a lead role.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:25:37pm |
re: #74 Tully
Paul Bettany is one of the finest actors working today, and it's good to see him get a lead role.
And he's got red hair!
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:26:10pm |
Says Hitchens:
Mention of the Lebanese elections impels me to pass on what I saw with my own eyes at a recent Hezbollah rally in south Beirut, Lebanon. In a large hall that featured the official attendance of a delegation from the Iranian Embassy, the most luridly displayed poster of the pro-Iranian party was a nuclear mushroom cloud! Underneath this telling symbol was a caption warning the "Zionists" of what lay in store. We sometimes forget that Iran still officially denies any intention of acquiring nuclear weapons. Yet Ahmadinejad recently hailed an Iranian missile launch as a counterpart to Iran's success with nuclear centrifuges, and Hezbollah has certainly been allowed to form the idea that the Iranian reactors may have nonpeaceful applications. This means, among other things, that the vicious manipulation by which the mullahs control Iran can no longer be considered as their "internal affair." Fascism at home sooner or later means fascism abroad. Face it now or fight it later. Meanwhile, give it its right name.
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ShanghaiEd Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:27:58pm |
re: #34 brookly red
if you got yer hand stamped you kin get back in...
Now I see my problem, all these years. I always got my foot stomped...uh, stamped...
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:28:04pm |
Hey y'all - been kinda jammed up today - did the Obama Administration say anything further on the Iranian elections?
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:28:20pm |
re: #60 Killgore Trout
It was a crudely stage-managed insult to everyone involved.
Key word is "crudely".
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:29:26pm |
re: Rancher
Key word is "crudely".
Crude it may have been, but being an autocratic theocracy crude is effective.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:30:05pm |
Well on this auspicious note - a movie to really look forward to! - I'll say good night. Can't stay up with the Night Lizards as late as I used to or it messes up the CPAP therapy.
That echo-y silent noise you hear is me not snoring.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:30:45pm |
re: realwest
Hey y'all - been kinda jammed up today - did the Obama Administration say anything further on the Iranian elections?
I wonder if he is still excited about the robust political discussions going on in Iran.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:30:46pm |
re: #81 FurryOldGuyJeans
Crude it may have been, but being an autocratic theocracy crude is effective.
Foreign media say Iran blocking coverage of protests
And if you read this article, I love how they sound "surprised" that the media was barred from reporting. These news agencies cannot be that dense.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:32:30pm |
"Any attempt to block BBC Persian television is wrong and against international treaties on satellite communication. Whoever is attempting the blocking should stop it now," said BBC World Service director Peter Horrocks.
Big bad words from the BBC.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:32:37pm |
re: #82 jaunte
Fuck. Has he really not said anything more than he is thinking about fraudulent charges or some such shit?!
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:33:21pm |
re: #77 Cato the Elder
"It's 1938 and Iran is Germany. And Iran is racing to arm itself with atomic bombs," Benjamin Netanyahu
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:34:05pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
"Any attempt to block BBC Persian television is wrong and against international treaties on satellite communication. Whoever is attempting the blocking should stop it now," said BBC World Service director Peter Horrocks.
Big bad words from the BBC.
What Would Charles James Napier Do?
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:34:15pm |
re: #84 FurryOldGuyJeans
I am genuinely surprised at that. I have no love lost for Obama, but I really thought he'd come through with a stronger statement than he did THIS MORNING.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:34:38pm |
Hitched linked to a trailer for another film that looks like it's must see:
[Link: www.thestoning.com...]
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:35:06pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
"Any attempt to block BBC Persian television is wrong and against international treaties on satellite communication. Whoever is attempting the blocking should stop it now," said BBC World Service director Peter Horrocks.
Big bad words from the BBC.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
we don't need no stinkin treaties.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:35:35pm |
re: realwest
I am genuinely surprised at that. I have no love lost for Obama, but I really thought he'd come through with a stronger statement than he did THIS MORNING.
I don't think the man has a clue. He can't understand why people don't do what he says without question.
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ShanghaiEd Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:35:47pm |
...Now the countdown, until the film Creation is routinely described on blogs as "left wing" and "anti-God." Even (especially) by folks who haven't seen it.
I can't find an instance of such a description yet, but I'm betting it'll take days. While searching, the most recent film I found that received both those modifiers was The Golden Compass.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:36:00pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
"Any attempt to block BBC Persian television is wrong and against international treaties on satellite communication. Whoever is attempting the blocking should stop it now," said BBC World Service director Peter Horrocks.
Big bad words from the BBC.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
They had better listen lest they face the wrath of the great British Rolled-Up Newspaper, with the promise of ear clouts to follow.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:36:32pm |
re: #87 realwest
This is about it:
The U.S. will “continue to monitor the entire situation closely, including reports of irregularities,” White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said in a statement yesterday, after Iranian opposition candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, 67, challenged the validity of results and thousands of protesters clashed with police in Tehran.“We hope that the outcome reflects the genuine will and desire of the Iranian people,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters yesterday.
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:36:37pm |
re: #91 Sharmuta
Hitched linked to a trailer for another film that looks like it's must see:
[Link: www.thestoning.com...]
Oh gawd. It sounds like it would make me cry, barf and curl up under my blankie all at once.
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:37:25pm |
re: #94 ShanghaiEd
...Now the countdown, until the film Creation is routinely described on blogs as "left wing" and "anti-God." Even (especially) by folks who haven't seen it.
I can't find an instance of such a description yet, but I'm betting it'll take days. While searching, the most recent film I found that received both those modifiers was The Golden Compass.
I don't know about anywhere else...but around here the Harry Potter movies are also on the recievingend of the "anti-god" crap
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:37:30pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
"Any attempt to block BBC Persian television is wrong and against international treaties on satellite communication. Whoever is attempting the blocking should stop it now," said BBC World Service director Peter Horrocks.
Big bad words from the BBC.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
Hey Walter - what if anything do international treaties on satellite communications have to do with barring reporters and camermen/women from covering the protests?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:37:51pm |
re: #94 ShanghaiEd
...Now the countdown, until the film Creation is routinely described on blogs as "left wing" and "anti-God." Even (especially) by folks who haven't seen it.
I can't find an instance of such a description yet, but I'm betting it'll take days. While searching, the most recent film I found that received both those modifiers was The Golden Compass.
Well, the Golden Compass was anti-christian, at least the book, but what's wrong with that?
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Cato the Elder Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:38:50pm |
One last thing 'fore I go.
Paul Bettany as Dr Stephen Maturin, naval surgeon and cellist, in Master and Commander, to the strains of J.S. Bach.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:39:12pm |
re: #96 jaunte
Good Lord. I mean, I didn't expect Obama to go to war or anything, but how weak and mealy-mouthed a statement is that?!?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:39:21pm |
re: #99 realwest
Hey Walter - what if anything do international treaties on satellite communications have to do with barring reporters and camermen/women from covering the protests?
If you read the whole article, that section was dealing with the fact that the BBC satellite signals were being jammed by someone inside Iran.
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Neutral President Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:39:45pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
"Any attempt to block BBC Persian television is wrong and against international treaties on satellite communication. Whoever is attempting the blocking should stop it now," said BBC World Service director Peter Horrocks.
Big bad words from the BBC.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
"Stop! Or I'll say stop again!"
/British authorities
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:40:07pm |
re: #97 Zimriel
Oh gawd. It sounds like it would make me cry, barf and curl up under my blankie all at once.
Possibly. But I'm glad to see films about islamic misogyny being made. 'Osama' was deeply disturbing for me as was 'Submission Part 1', but this issue need to be highlighted and films are a great vehicle for that.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:40:14pm |
I found another re: #102 realwest
Good Lord. I mean, I didn't expect Obama to go to war or anything, but how weak and mealy-mouthed a statement is that?!?
It's his way of saying 'present'.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:41:19pm |
re: #105 jaunte
Yeah, but ya know this ISN'T a Hallmark Card Moment.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:42:03pm |
re: #108 realwest
I have a bad feeling that my kids are going to be paying for this moment, too.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:42:06pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
"Any attempt to block BBC Persian television is wrong and against international treaties on satellite communication. Whoever is attempting the blocking should stop it now," said BBC World Service director Peter Horrocks.
Big bad words from the BBC.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
The attack shall commence at 0830 so expect an early tea time!
And remember gentlemen, we must not damage any property!
//
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:42:50pm |
re: #81 FurryOldGuyJeans
Crude it may have been, but being an autocratic theocracy crude is effective.
Only if they meant to have riots in the streets.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:43:06pm |
re: #103 Walter L. Newton
Thank you Walter. I didn't dig deep enough into the story. But how the hell can the Iranians jam satellites?
And does this say anything potentially significant to the US DoD?
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:44:09pm |
re: #113 realwest
Thank you Walter. I didn't dig deep enough into the story. But how the hell can the Iranians jam satellites?
And does this say anything potentially significant to the US DoD?
you don't jam the satellite, you jam the upload.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:44:17pm |
re: #113 realwest
Thank you Walter. I didn't dig deep enough into the story. But how the hell can the Iranians jam satellites?
And does this say anything potentially significant to the US DoD?
Really long sticks.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:45:37pm |
Students from the Sharif Polytechnic University have organized a large protest on the university campus. As they tried to move the protest into the street, in order to march down the streets of Tehran, their exits and gates were blocked by the regime’s security guards and they were blocked from leaving the university grounds; at this juncture the students began to chant loudly and when the sound of their chanting was heard by passersby on the street, they began to gather by the thousands at the other side of the university gates. As reported by the human rights and democracy activists in Iran, the entire area was surrounded by the regime’s guards, who have begun to attack and beat the students and supporting demonstrators. Javan’eh Farda (Tomorrow’s Youth) website reported that, in a statement, 125 members of the Sharif Polytechnic University faculty have condemned the attacks on the students and have jointly announced their resignations, stating that until the time the people’s rights are given, they will neither appear in classes nor for any exams.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:45:51pm |
re: #112 Rancher
Only if they meant to have riots in the streets.
Hmmmm - I'm wondering if this isn't a crude - and dangerous - way for the Mullahs to get rid of Dinnerjacket so that they appear to be reasonable to the rest of the World? Of course, iirc his opponent wasn't all that much friendlier to the US or a halt to Iran's Nuke program.
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ShanghaiEd Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:46:49pm |
re: #100 Walter L. Newton
But, but, but...entertainment is evil by nature, and the only way it can be justified is if it draws us closer to country, God, and Jesus! And preferably, also leaves us whistling a vacant...uh, happy tune as we exit the theater.
Or at least that's the case, here in the South... :)
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:47:03pm |
re: #118 realwest
Hmmmm - I'm wondering if this isn't a crude - and dangerous - way for the Mullahs to get rid of Dinnerjacket so that they appear to be reasonable to the rest of the World? Of course, iirc his opponent wasn't all that much friendlier to the US or a halt to Iran's Nuke program.
they could have just installed someone else...
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:47:14pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:47:37pm |
re: #101 Cato the Elder
I love the original instrument recordings. Gut string are "mushier" and slower to react. This is probably pretty close to what Bach would have heard.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:48:18pm |
re: #119 Sharmuta
Get Well Soon.
(You're distracting us from a domestic agenda)
| 126 |
brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:48:29pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:50:26pm |
re: Rancher
Only if they meant to have riots in the streets.
This Iranian situation looks a lot like Gorbachev and his Perestroika. The Mullahs tried to offer a bit of "reform" to the masses to hang onto power, and the people showed they wanted and demanded more than just a sop.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:50:52pm |
re: #116 MandyManners
Saw the post you made on the prior thread and I want to add my prayers and best wishes for your Mom to your Dad, you and you're whole family.
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Gearhead Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:51:40pm |
If you'll unclench
Your fist today,
We can make
A better way.
'Bama Shave
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:52:29pm |
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:52:59pm |
re: #127 FurryOldGuyJeans
This Iranian situation looks a lot like Gorbachev and his Perestroika. The Mullahs tried to offer a bit of "reform" to the masses to hang onto power, and the people showed they wanted and demanded more than just a sop.
Right-o.
It's coming out now that while the candidates were hand picked as usual, the reformist candidates actually started campaigning on reform. This opened the ifrit's bottle.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:53:03pm |
re: Sharmuta
Happy Insurgency!
I don't think the Mullahs like it on the home turf as much as they liked it in Iraq.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:53:10pm |
| 135 |
realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:53:16pm |
re: #121 ShanghaiEd
That might have been funny if you'd used a sarc tag instead of a :), y'all know what I'm saying?
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laxmatt1984 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:53:27pm |
Most important moment in world history since 9/11 and you're blathering on about the creationists?
Lord have mercy.
LFG failed this weekend. You could have been an information hub like Sullivan or even the miserable Huffington Post.
The people of Iran NEED OUR HELP!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:54:42pm |
re: laxmatt1984
Piss off, with all respect.
I take that back, the respect part. Just fucking piss off!
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:54:48pm |
re: #136 laxmatt1984
Most important moment in world history since 9/11 and you're blathering on about the creationists?
YAY! One tray of gamey delight comin' right up!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:55:23pm |
re: #133 FurryOldGuyJeans
I don't think the Mullahs like it on the home turf as much as they liked it in Iraq.
Blowback's a bitch.
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:55:24pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
"Any attempt to block BBC Persian television is wrong and against international treaties on satellite communication. Whoever is attempting the blocking should stop it now," said BBC World Service director Peter Horrocks.
Big bad words from the BBC.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
The BBC manages to flounce off without moving.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:56:20pm |
re: #118 realwest
Hmmmm - I'm wondering if this isn't a crude - and dangerous - way for the Mullahs to get rid of Dinnerjacket so that they appear to be reasonable to the rest of the World? Of course, iirc his opponent wasn't all that much friendlier to the US or a halt to Iran's Nuke program.
That's what has me so puzzled, they let him run, let his charismatic wife rile up the huge crowds, then let Ahmadinejad crudely, amateurishly, ineptly, obviously steal the election. I still wonder if Ahmadinejad actually stole this election from the Mullahs and the Mullahs just had to go along with a fait accompli. Problem is Khamenei has to approved the results, and has, twice.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:56:22pm |
re: #136 laxmatt1984
Are you outta your fucking mind? LGF failed this weekend? Because the people of Iran need our help?
What the hell did you expect Charles or us to do about this?
And for the record, I'm too damned old and sick for combat infantry duty anymore.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:56:37pm |
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ShanghaiEd Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:56:49pm |
re: #135 realwest
Excellent point. Are the slash-marks operative again?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:57:40pm |
re: #136 laxmatt1984
Fine. I'll buy you a damn plan ticket. One way.
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laxmatt1984 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:57:52pm |
Wear green tomorrow. Contact your congressperson and media. It is shameful the lack of attention the events in Iran have received. The people of Iran cannot feel abandoned the moment they take on their fascist government.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:58:07pm |
re: #136 laxmatt1984
Most important moment in world history since 9/11 and you're blathering on about the creationists?
Lord have mercy.
LFG failed this weekend. You could have been an information hub like Sullivan or even the miserable Huffington Post.
The people of Iran NEED OUR HELP!
Oh, bite me. There have been four threads on Iran in the past 3 days.
| 152 |
NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:58:59pm |
FYI:
There is a channel at Youtube dedicated to the Iranian situation and it's getting new videos posted all the time.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:59:06pm |
re: laxmatt1984
Take some time to actually READ the fucking blog before you start shitting on the host's carpet, you damned fucking piece of shit troll.
| 154 |
Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:59:10pm |
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:59:39pm |
The jackass at 136 doesn't understand that we already have several threads devoted to the topic, and that before he started whining, no less a lizard than Killgore had already changed the subject at comment #60.
Now who's obsessed?
Oh, but thanks for making it all about your persecution complex. We knew some latent troll wouldn't be able to resist.
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laxmatt1984 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 8:59:42pm |
Have any of you been paying attention at all? Anysource of information - be it Huffington (yes, she is an awful person) Twitter, hell even Daily Kos has been used by the Iranian people to gather information and coordinate.
Among other things, this is a battle of information. We can help provide that information.
| 157 |
J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:00:27pm |
Congresswoman's abandoned house angers neighbors
Laura Richardson's former home in Sacramento's upscale Curtis Park neighborhood is in disrepair. Residents say they have appealed to her and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi without success.
By Jeff Gottlieb
June 12, 2009
Reporting from Sacramento -- John Bailey thought it was great when his neighbor was elected to the House of Representatives in 2007.
"Not everyone lives next door to a congresswoman," he said.
But two years later, he doesn't feel so lucky. The congresswoman's house is abandoned and in disrepair, "a blight on the neighborhood," Bailey said.
He thinks the way that Rep. Laura Richardson (D-Long Beach) has treated her Sacramento home tells far more about her than her voting record.
"I wouldn't want anyone that irresponsible to represent me," said Bailey, like Richardson a liberal Democrat. "What I don't get is how she has the time to visit with Fidel Castro but doesn't have time for her own house. If you can't manage your own household, you probably shouldn't get involved in international affairs."He's not alone. Neighbors have complained to the city, written letters and e-mails to Richardson and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi , but the three-bedroom house remains an eyesore. Neighbors just wish she would sell it or let it go into foreclosure, anything to get it into the hands of someone who would care.
"She shows total disregard for everyone in the neighborhood," said Sean Padovan, a retired police sergeant. "She ought to be embarrassed and ashamed."
Richardson did not return phone calls for this story.
The problems with the house began shortly after Richardson was elected to the Assembly in 2006 from Long Beach and bought the two-story house in the leafy Curtis Park neighborhood.
It wasn't long before Padovan, 62, angry that the lawn wasn't being mowed, knocked on Richardson's door, told her he was a neighbor and asked if she minded if he cut the grass. He hauled out his hand mower, and when Richardson still seemed to have no interest in taking care of her yard, he stuck a gardener's card in her door with a note saying that she should call him if she had questions.
He never heard from Richardson, not a thank-you or a wave as she walked past.
After Richardson was elected to Congress in 2007 in a special election, she moved out around Labor Day. She told Bailey that she planned to rent out the house. Later that year, he sent her an e-mail with a link to a real estate agent who could help. He never received a response.
With no one living in it, the house continued to deteriorate.
Angry at the demise of the once stately home and worried about what it would do to their property values, neighbors took things into their own hands.
Carrie Thomsen would walk across the street with her hose and water the yard. Janet Carlson sent her gardener to Richardson's house once a month for six months to mow the lawn. She paid kids $20 during the fall to rake the leaves. They once peeked inside and saw a dead bird in the living room. Her husband turned on the sprinklers the last two summers, worried that dry weeds would turn into a fire hazard.
Things got so bad that in the fall of 2008 rats began breeding in Richardson's backyard and soon moved into L. Kraft's house next door. It took him two months to get rid of them. ...
Nice.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:00:28pm |
re: #153 FurryOldGuyJeans
Not only have we had threads on the subject- most of the open threads, and even this one have been discussing Iran. We've discussed it almost constantly since Thursday night.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:00:33pm |
re: #144 Rancher
That's what has me so puzzled, they let him run, let his charismatic wife rile up the huge crowds, then let Ahmadinejad crudely, amateurishly, ineptly, obviously steal the election. I still wonder if Ahmadinejad actually stole this election from the Mullahs and the Mullahs just had to go along with a fait accompli. Problem is Khamenei has to approved the results, and has, twice.
Yeah, but this is Iran and Kamenei is - well, out for Kamenei. Maybe a lecture about how Iran cannot continue to be torn like this and either a) we'll hold new elections (and then muzzle Dinnerjacket) or b)
blame it all on Western Interference with the election and call for a do-over with stricter controls and wind up with someone other than Dinnerjacket running for Pres.
Somehow I don't see AmeddinnerJacket winning out over the Mullahs.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:00:34pm |
re: #154 Mich-again
Just wondering here. What do you propose?
Can't the TOTUS fix everything with an historic speech?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:00:35pm |
re: laxmatt1984
You need a serious fucking clue, you piece of troll shit.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:00:54pm |
re: #156 laxmatt1984
Have any of you been paying attention at all? Anysource of information - be it Huffington (yes, she is an awful person) Twitter, hell even Daily Kos has been used by the Iranian people to gather information and coordinate.
Among other things, this is a battle of information. We can help provide that information.
READ THE FUCKING BLOG!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:01:03pm |
re: #156 laxmatt1984
Have YOU been paying attention?! You are fucking blind.
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Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:01:06pm |
re: #136 laxmatt1984
Most important moment in world history since 9/11 and you're blathering on about the creationists?
Lord have mercy.
LFG failed this weekend. You could have been an information hub like Sullivan or even the miserable Huffington Post.
The people of Iran NEED OUR HELP!
I've been here all weekend because it's update central on the Iranian situation. Read the posts and click the links fool.
| 166 |
realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:01:38pm |
re: #147 ShanghaiEd
I didn't know that they weren't operative!
/
Nope, seem to be working just fine.
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:01:39pm |
re: #156 laxmatt1984
Have any of you been paying attention at all? Anysource of information - be it Huffington (yes, she is an awful person) Twitter, hell even Daily Kos has been used by the Iranian people to gather information and coordinate.
Among other things, this is a battle of information. We can help provide that information.
Gee, how many Iranian's you think are loged in about now?
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Neutral President Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:01:50pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:01:55pm |
re: #156 laxmatt1984
Have any of you been paying attention at all?
Only for about the last 30 years or so here. Whats your point?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:02:02pm |
re: #151 Charles
Oh, bite me. There have been four threads on Iran in the past 3 days.
Of course, the bitching isn't really about Iran or your coverage. Like many in the past, it looks more like and objection to the science of evolution and an attempt to derail the thread.
Funny thing, much of the talk on this thread is about Iran. Lax would know that if he bothered to read.
| 171 |
Vicious Babushka Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:02:11pm |
re: #136 laxmatt1984
Most important moment in world history since 9/11 and you're blathering on about the creationists?
Lord have mercy.
LFG failed this weekend. You could have been an information hub like Sullivan or even the miserable Huffington Post.
The people of Iran NEED OUR HELP!
And how is you, pissing up a rope, or fucking off and dying, helping the people of Iran?
| 172 |
Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:02:23pm |
re: #156 laxmatt1984
Have any of you been paying attention at all? Anysource of information - be it Huffington (yes, she is an awful person) Twitter, hell even Daily Kos has been used by the Iranian people to gather information and coordinate.
Among other things, this is a battle of information. We can help provide that information.
Again, which is being done on other threads - including this one - before you piped in. If you don't like a comment, then go contribute to another one. On second thought, don't, because you'll just make it all about you over there like over here.
| 173 |
Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:02:48pm |
I know! Since they're all off topic on the Darwin thread discussing Iran, I will have a meltdown because they're not discussing Iran.
BRILLIANT!
| 174 |
Dar ul Harbarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:12pm |
Looks like a good movie.
Not enough explosions, though.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:18pm |
Here are a few links for lax readers.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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soxfan4life Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:29pm |
re: #171 Alouette
And how is you, pissing up a rope, or fucking off and dying, helping the people of Iran?
Give them a little more oxygen that that particular oxygen thief stops wasting.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:35pm |
re: #151 Charles Charles, respectfully, don't respond to this....poster. You need not justify yourself or LGF to him or anyone else for that matter.
Let us handle him/her/it.
Please?
| 178 |
J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:38pm |
re: #156 laxmatt1984
We've been talking about Iran here for at least the last 7 years. Where were you?
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Neutral President Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:03:43pm |
re: #170 Slumbering Behemoth
Exactly, it's not bitching about a lack of discussion on Iran. It is bitching about any discussion of creationism.
"Nice try Lao Che!"
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:02pm |
re: #171 Alouette
And how is you, pissing up a rope, or fucking off and dying, helping the people of Iran?
do we have research in the budget?
| 181 |
Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:03pm |
re: #155 Zimriel
And Walter linked something related. And I replied with a video! that is applicable.
| 182 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:08pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:11pm |
re: #156 laxmatt1984
Have any of you been paying attention at all? Anysource of information - be it Huffington (yes, she is an awful person) Twitter, hell even Daily Kos has been used by the Iranian people to gather information and coordinate.
Among other things, this is a battle of information. We can help provide that information.
All anyone has been talking about here on LGF the past two days is Iran. Are you not paying attention, not reading, or just plain stupid?
| 184 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:13pm |
re: #156 laxmatt1984
I suggest you give your fingers a break and actually fucking read the threads.
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:16pm |
re: #167 brookly red
Gee, how many Iranian's you think are loged in about now?
Actually, quite a few expats... and also friends of Iranians. And there's also Twitter. So information is getting to and from the place.
| 186 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:20pm |
re: #150 laxmatt1984
Like Charles said, there have been several threads. Not only that but most ALL the threads end up with us discussing the situation. LGF'r Winston06, an Iranian living in Canada is posting videos above. Check his blog too. Here's a twitter link for you.
[Link: search.twitter.com...]
Jeez.
| 187 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:25pm |
re: realwest
Charles, respectfully, don't respond to this....poster. You need not justify yourself or LGF to him or anyone else for that matter.
Let us handle him/her/it.
Please?
Let me at the stupid fucker. This cranky old coot needs to break in a new metal cane.
| 188 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:53pm |
OT The jeniuses in LA are ripping up trees to burn, outside of the Staples Center. LAPD is in riot mode.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:04:59pm |
re: #126 brookly red
learned me that from watching Running Man :)
Great movie. It's my father's favorite Schwarzenegger movie. Also had good performances from Richard Dawson and Maria Conchita Alonso.
| 190 |
realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:05:13pm |
re: #152 NJDhockeyfan
Hey thanks for that NJDhockeyfan - man there doesn't appear to be any let up in either the protests or the brutal way they've been handled.
| 192 |
Rancher Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:05:18pm |
re: #159 realwest
Somehow I don't see AmeddinnerJacket winning out over the Mullahs.
He is not without power, supposedly the Guard favors him even they they are under the command of the Supreme Leader. He also picks the Ministers and the Interior Ministry counts the votes.
| 193 |
srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:05:26pm |
re: #179 ArchangelMichael
Exactly, it's not bitching about a lack of discussion on Iran. It is bitching about any discussion of creationism.
"Nice try Lao Che!"
Special upding for Indiana Jones reference = )
| 195 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:05:51pm |
re: Floral Giraffe
OT The jeniuses in LA are ripping up trees to burn, outside of the Staples Center. LAPD is in riot mode.
Why is L.A. rioting?
| 196 |
Dar ul Harbarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:06:02pm |
re: #188 Floral Giraffe
OT The jeniuses in LA are ripping up trees to burn, outside of the Staples Center. LAPD is in riot mode.
Jeniuses?
| 197 |
OldLineTexan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:06:05pm |
re: #180 brookly red
do we have research in the budget?
Sorry, had to cut it ... it was that or lay-offs ...
/
| 198 |
Neutral President Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:06:08pm |
re: #182 MandyManners
May I steal that?
I stole it from a friend (who is a raging lefty) so I do see why not.
| 200 |
brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:06:15pm |
re: #185 Zimriel
Actually, quite a few expats... and also friends of Iranians. And there's also Twitter. So information is getting to and from the place.
then my bad, sorry.
| 201 |
Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:06:27pm |
re: #188 Floral Giraffe
OT The jeniuses in LA are ripping up trees to burn, outside of the Staples Center. LAPD is in riot mode.
Why? Didn't Obama win the election?
| 202 |
soxfan4life Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:06:41pm |
re: #188 Floral Giraffe
OT The jeniuses in LA are ripping up trees to burn, outside of the Staples Center. LAPD is in riot mode.
And yet if the police injure one of them the media will be calling for his head on a platter.
| 203 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:06:42pm |
re: #188 Floral Giraffe
OT The jeniuses in LA are ripping up trees to burn, outside of the Staples Center. LAPD is in riot mode.
Crazy. Wish I had a digital scanner to get the LAPD. Mine is just analog.
Funny, I heard about the LA problems on the Tehran twitter.
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:06:51pm |
re: #174 Dar ul Harbarian
Not enough explosions, though.
Or car chases. Its not a great movie without at least one car chase. Granted, some movies (like any Star Wars movie or Ben Hur) had car chase scenes with non-traditional types of cars, but they were still technically car chase scenes.
| 205 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:07:00pm |
re: #175 jaunte
Here are a few links for lax readers.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Will he become an Ex-lax?
| 206 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:07:03pm |
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:07:06pm |
re: #197 OldLineTexan
Sorry, had to cut it ... it was that or lay-offs ...
/
Darn! did we take TARP?
| 208 |
Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:07:18pm |
re: #188 Floral Giraffe
OT The jeniuses in LA are ripping up trees to burn, outside of the Staples Center. LAPD is in riot mode.
I hate it when they rip up trees.
| 209 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:07:33pm |
re: #183 NJDhockeyfan
All anyone has been talking about here on LGF the past two days is Iran. Are you not paying attention, not reading, or just plain stupid?
Yes.
| 210 |
Neutral President Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:07:40pm |
re: #198 ArchangelMichael
I stole it from a friend (who is a raging lefty) so I dont see why not.
PIMF
| 211 |
NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:01pm |
re: #190 realwest
Hey thanks for that NJDhockeyfan - man there doesn't appear to be any let up in either the protests or the brutal way they've been handled.
I heard on the last thread that Youtube is removing videos about Iran. I figure we can at least view them quickly before they get the ax.
| 212 |
Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:12pm |
laxmatt1984 is not a creationist:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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OldLineTexan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:26pm |
re: #206 FurryOldGuyJeans
Oh, so now we have sports riots here? Fucking putzes.
It's been a "tradition" in several cities for a while, now ... difficult for me to understand.
| 214 |
soxfan4life Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:26pm |
re: #208 Catttt
I hate it when they rip up trees.
How ae they going to make up those carbon credits?
| 215 |
MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:40pm |
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:44pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:08:45pm |
re: #195 FurryOldGuyJeans
It's how some people choose to celebrate a Lakers Championship.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:08pm |
| 219 |
Dar ul Harbarian Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:10pm |
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:14pm |
re: #206 FurryOldGuyJeans
Oh, so now we have sports riots here? Fucking putzes.
Pretty much. Selfish, spoilt riff-raff in LA; nothing but hooligans, rioting for the fun of it.
Note that when the Rockets won in 1995-6, we didn't riot. We just went out and partied.
| 221 |
J.D. Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:14pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:29pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:31pm |
re: #206 FurryOldGuyJeans
Oh, so now we have sports riots here? Fucking putzes.
They did that a few years back when LA won. At that time I was able to hear it on the scanner. It was insane.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:41pm |
re: #194 Sharmuta
Well, if that's true then I guess it blows my theory out of the water.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:41pm |
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soxfan4life Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:48pm |
re: #195 FurryOldGuyJeans
Why is L.A. rioting?
Nancy poked her head out before getting a botox treatment
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OldLineTexan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:09:48pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:10:07pm |
re: #217 Floral Giraffe
It's how some people choose to celebrate a Lakers Championship.
They are just Piston fan wannabes.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:10:08pm |
re: Floral Giraffe
It's how some people choose to celebrate a Lakers Championship.
Any wonder why I declare myself to be militantly indifferent when it come to sports?
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:10:19pm |
Ah yes, the classic, "Hey our team won a Championship so lets burn shit!" theme. Its old hat.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:10:31pm |
Apologies if this has already been posted-- but this is really cool BBC coverage from Tehran, some of it filmed with cell phones.
At one point the cops try to stop them filming and a crowd fights them off to protect the BBC guys.
(around the 3 min mark it switches to coverage of hillary making a statement-- I didn't really watch that but the first 3 minutes are good)
It's youtube, so hurry.
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soxfan4life Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:10:46pm |
re: #230 Mich-again
Ah yes, the classic, "Hey our team won a Championship so lets burn shit!" theme. Its old hat.
Detroit wrote the book on that
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:10:49pm |
re: #230 Mich-again
Ah yes, the classic, "Hey our team won a Championship so lets burn shit!" theme. Its old hat.
And, loot!
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Gearhead Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:10:52pm |
re: #183 NJDhockeyfan
All anyone has been talking about here on LGF the past two days is Iran. Are you not paying attention, not reading, or just plain stupid?
Ever been to one of those parties where everyone's having a good time, shooting the breeze, and then some attention-hungry drama queen walks in and starts throwing drinks in people's faces?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:11:05pm |
re: #224 Slumbering Behemoth
Hey- I'm not thrilled about defending him, but I remember him very well, and his comments show he's an eeevil Darwinist.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:11:09pm |
re: #202 soxfan4life
And yet if the police injure one of them the media will be calling for his head on a platter.
They are now throwing burning trash cans into cars. Just called in an additional 40 units for crowd control. The san folks have gone home, the crazies are still out.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:11:16pm |
re: #232 soxfan4life
Detroit wrote the book on that
Wasn't that the first city to riot when it's team won?
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:11:22pm |
re: #136 laxmatt1984
IF you had paid attention to any of the Iran threads you would know LGF was a digital clearinghouse for all manner of video's, twitter feeds, Iranian blogs, and independent news feeds. And I sure as hell didn't see you contribute a damn thing to any of them.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:11:51pm |
re: #155 Zimriel
" no less a lizard than Killgore..." Hey, no need to get carried away here!
:)
Just kidding Zimrel and Killgore.
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OldLineTexan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:12:19pm |
re: #220 Zimriel
Pretty much. Selfish, spoilt riff-raff in LA; nothing but hooligans, rioting for the fun of it.
Note that when the Rockets won in 1995-6, we didn't riot. We just went out and partied.
I'd upding ya, but IIRC it was '94 and '95.
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soxfan4life Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:12:36pm |
re: #238 MandyManners
Wasn't that the first city to riot when it's team won?
I think so, they also celebrated Devils night with riots and burning cars.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:12:37pm |
re: #239 MrPaulRevere
IF you had paid attention to any of the Iran threads you would know LGF was a digital clearinghouse for all manner of video's, twitter feeds, Iranian blogs, and independent news feeds. And I sure as hell didn't see you contribute a damn thing to any of them.
Since Thursday.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:13:20pm |
re: MrPaulRevere
IF you had paid attention to any of the Iran threads you would know LGF was a digital clearinghouse for all manner of video's, twitter feeds, Iranian blogs, and independent news feeds. And I sure as hell didn't see you contribute a damn thing to any of them.
Fucking troll just wanted to shit on the carpet, and bitch about the hors d'oevers.
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:13:48pm |
re: #236 Sharmuta
Hey- I'm not thrilled about defending him, but I remember him very well, and his comments show he's an eeevil Darwinist.
Then he's just a troll causing thread chaos, which hardly speaks better of him.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:14:00pm |
re: #242 soxfan4life
I think so, they also celebrated Devils night with riots and burning cars.
Finally, a fly-over state starts a trend!
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:14:13pm |
Live video from LA.
[Link: www.nbclosangeles.com...]
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:14:17pm |
re: #242 soxfan4life
I think so, they also celebrated Devils night with riots and burning cars.
The Devils night fires were so famous they became a tourist attraction.
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Mr. In get Mr. Out Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:14:18pm |
re: #232 soxfan4life
Detroit wrote the book on that
Damn near burns to the ground every time they win something.
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MandyManners Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:14:37pm |
re: #247 Zimriel
Then he's just a troll causing thread chaos, which hardly speaks better of him.
Maybe he needs to invoke the Iron Fist Rule.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:15:27pm |
re: #231 iceweasel
Apologies if this has already been posted-- but this is really cool BBC coverage from Tehran, some of it filmed with cell phones.
At one point the cops try to stop them filming and a crowd fights them off to protect the BBC guys.
(around the 3 min mark it switches to coverage of hillary making a statement-- I didn't really watch that but the first 3 minutes are good)
[Video]It's youtube, so hurry.
YouTube will probably leave BBC footage alone. You can't claim it's just random stuff. I'm not a big fan of the Beeb but a legit news report isn't the same thing as amateur footage. It's much harder to justify taking it down.
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:15:38pm |
re: #241 OldLineTexan
I'd upding ya, but IIRC it was '94 and '95.
Really? I must have partied too hard, didn't even know what year it was ;^)
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brookly red Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:15:52pm |
re: #252 MandyManners
Maybe he needs to invoke the Iron Fist Rule.
/don't you need to brief congress first?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:15:52pm |
re: #239 MrPaulRevere
IF you had paid attention to any of the Iran threads you would know LGF was a digital clearinghouse for all manner of video's, twitter feeds, Iranian blogs, and independent news feeds. And I sure as hell didn't see you contribute a damn thing to any of them.
The guy's clearly a shitstirrer. The private thread has tons of info on Iran; he would know that since he is registered.
Instead he posts a public comment here -- for the UNregistered to see--claiming LGF isn't talking about the issue.
Sabotage, IMHO.
(potential problem with private threads? Stealth haters of LGF posting a fake hysterical *public* comment alleging something going on/not going on in a private thread? -- it will discredit LGF to people who aren't regged, and feed the crazies who hate LGF.)
I don't know. Might be something to think about?
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:15:56pm |
re: #187 FurryOldGuyJeans
Let me at the stupid fucker. This cranky old coot needs to break in a new metal cane.
Hey, don't go denting it now - it's new but I don't think the warranty will cover what you have in mind.
Really this "stupid fucker" needs reading glasses or something - I know I haven't been on LGF much today, but everytime I turn around, no matter what the thread title, the comments are always going to what's happening in Iran.
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:15:57pm |
re: #232 soxfan4life
Detroit wrote the book on that
Yeah in '84 some idiots did that, but at least our policemen didn't kill people with rubber bullets like they did in Boston. fuck off.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:16:57pm |
re: #188 Floral Giraffe
Uh oh. I really have been out of the loop - what's going on in LA that they're ripping up Palm trees?!
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slokat Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:17:24pm |
The only issue I have so far with this "spy" posting, is the lack of numbers on the posts... makes it hard to go back and read things, especially when they keep jumping down the screen...
/sure I'll adapt, I'm not ready to succumb to being darwined, yet...
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:17:30pm |
re: #244 Pvt Bin Jammin
I can't get that to play. :-(
Ok, i found it hosted on a lib/prog blog as well-- try watching from this site rather than YouTube--for some reason it's working better here:
[Link: www.sadlyno.com...]
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:17:35pm |
re: #251 Mr. In get Mr. Out
Damn near burns to the ground every time they win something.
Bullshit. find me more than one example from the last 25 years. Then again, most cities don't have one so they've never been tested.
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soxfan4life Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:18:19pm |
re: #258 Mich-again
Yeah in '84 some idiots did that, but at least our policemen didn't kill people with rubber bullets like they did in Boston. fuck off.
It was pepper spray pellets not rubber bullets, and the girl was trying to climb the green monster not burn the fucking city down, hey we won lets torch the city, now look what you started 0 won and is torching the country.
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:18:20pm |
re: #243 Sharmuta
I spent damn near all day Saturday tearing up the net and passing along what info I could here, and I know you and Killgore did as well. For this punk to demean our efforts and the time we spent really frosts my ass.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:18:43pm |
re: #253 Dark_Falcon
YouTube will probably leave BBC footage alone. You can't claim it's just random stuff. I'm not a big fan of the Beeb but a legit news report isn't the same thing as amateur footage. It's much harder to justify taking it down.
I hope so. I'm sure you're right.
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srb1976 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:18:49pm |
re: #251 Mr. In get Mr. Out
Damn near burns to the ground every time they win something.
Maybe that's why the Lions suck so bad......bought off by the city = )
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:19:36pm |
re: #259 realwest
Uh oh. I really have been out of the loop - what's going on in LA that they're ripping up Palm trees?!
Lakers won the championship. Opportunists destroying anything they can.
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:20:22pm |
re: #253 Dark_Falcon
YouTube will probably leave BBC footage alone. You can't claim it's just random stuff. I'm not a big fan of the Beeb but a legit news report isn't the same thing as amateur footage. It's much harder to justify taking it down.
And I must say that the BBC crew was brave, wading in there, then going back in more surreptitiously when their gear and footage was confiscated. I liked the part where the crowd cased the cop away from them.
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:20:40pm |
re: #263 soxfan4life
It was pepper spray pellets not rubber bullets, and the girl was trying to climb the green monster not burn the fucking city down, hey we won lets torch the city, now look what you started 0 won and is torching the country.
Bullshit. What are you talking about? Heres a link to the story.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:20:51pm |
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:21:13pm |
re: #264 MrPaulRevere
I spent damn near all day Saturday tearing up the net and passing along what info I could here, and I know you and Killgore did as well. For this punk to demean our efforts and the time we spent really frosts my ass.
Reine and Gus have also posted quite a bit and JCM and justdanny have added a lot of perspective about the region (from personal experience and friends over there). And to anyone else I am overlooking - nice work.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:21:20pm |
re: #192 Rancher
He is not without power, supposedly the Guard favors him even they they are under the command of the Supreme Leader. He also picks the Ministers and the Interior Ministry counts the votes.
Well I suppose that's all true, but to be candid with you, and I've said this before, Iran's military hasn't been tested in any way since the Iran/Iraq War over 25 years or so ago and I still think that the Mullahs will simply a) change the leadership of the "vaunted revolutionary guards", b) change the Ministers he thinks need counting and definity change the Interior ministery.
And I feel this way because Kahmeni won't allow Dinnerjacket to become a true "rival". Think of Kahmeni as Daley and Dinnerjacket as a shorter version of Blago.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:22:08pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:23:10pm |
re: #268 Catttt
And I must say that the BBC crew was brave, wading in there, then going back in more surreptitiously when their gear and footage was confiscated. I liked the part where the crowd cased the cop away from them.
That's the part that give me hope. when the citizens stop being afraid of the secret policeman and proceed to run him off, the tyrant is in deep trouble. Almost as impressive is that the BBC report actually called him a secret policeman. That's actually very good from them.
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:23:11pm |
re: #271 Bloodnok
I didn't mean to leave anyone out. Reine and Gus were real troopers too.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:23:26pm |
re: #205 MandyManners
Will he become an Ex-lax?
I think he already is. Or at least the end product of one.
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OldLineTexan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:24:08pm |
re: #273 Killgore Trout
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?!?!
/
FREAK-Y!
OUT-Y!
FREAK-Y!
OUT-Y!
/ever watch Home Movies?
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Bloodnok Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:24:20pm |
re: #275 MrPaulRevere
I didn't mean to leave anyone out. Reine and Gus were real troopers too.
No problem! I am sure I missed a few folks myself.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:24:25pm |
re: #271 Bloodnok
Reine and Gus have also posted quite a bit and JCM and justdanny have added a lot of perspective about the region (from personal experience and friends over there). And to anyone else I am overlooking - nice work.
A lot of us have done what we could to share information. Anyone who is even slightly familiar with LGF knows a lot of info can be found in the threads.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:24:30pm |
re: #213 OldLineTexan
Ah, didn't it start in either L.A. or Detroit though? The tradition, I mean.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:24:59pm |
re: #271 Bloodnok
Reine and Gus have also posted quite a bit and JCM and justdanny have added a lot of perspective about the region (from personal experience and friends over there). And to anyone else I am overlooking - nice work.
re: #275 MrPaulRevere
I didn't mean to leave anyone out. Reine and Gus were real troopers too.
Thanks!
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:25:37pm |
re: #264 MrPaulRevere
I spent damn near all day Saturday tearing up the net and passing along what info I could here, and I know you and Killgore did as well. For this punk to demean our efforts and the time we spent really frosts my ass.
Yeah, me too. I've been posting at Ace's giving them kudos for posting on this and for telling them that our differences are smaller than this. And I've been posting over HERE giving hat-tips to conservative blogs, and even frickin' DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND, on what news I find.
So yeah, I'm mad at this troll too. And when Sharmuta pointed out he's not even a creationist, that he's just throwing poo in here - I dunno, that just buried the needle on my rage-o-meter.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:25:40pm |
re: #236 Sharmuta
Hey- I'm not thrilled about defending him, but I remember him very well, and his comments show he's an eeevil Darwinist.
I don't see it as a defense on your part, you're just providing a fact. I shouldn't have made that assumption, but it's an easy one to make as it has been seen so many times here before.
It seems that Lax is highly stressed and emotional over the goings on in Iran, and did not bother to do any reading before blurting out crap.
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OldLineTexan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:25:40pm |
re: #281 realwest
Ah, didn't it start in either L.A. or Detroit though? The tradition, I mean.
Not in L.A. to my knowledge. Not an expert in the field. This is not the first riot for a sports championship by a long shot, though.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:26:43pm |
On Topic - Interesting that IMDb is not showing a US release date for this movie:
Release dates for
Creation (2009) More at IMDbPro »
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Country Date
UK 25 September 2009
Netherlands 15 October 2009
Belgium 23 December 2009Also Known As (AKA)
Annie's Box International (working title) (English title)
Nature International (working title) (English title)
Origin USA (working title)
Untitled Charles Darwin Project USA (working title)
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:27:03pm |
re: #284 Slumbering Behemoth
It seems that Lax is highly stressed and emotional over the goings on in Iran, and did not bother to do any reading before blurting out crap.
I hope that's what it is. Rage subsiding...
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shiplord kirel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:27:10pm |
re: #188 Floral Giraffe
OT The jeniuses in LA are ripping up trees to burn, outside of the Staples Center. LAPD is in riot mode.
Anyone have a whiff of grapeshot handy?
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:27:17pm |
re: #268 Catttt
And I must say that the BBC crew was brave, wading in there, then going back in more surreptitiously when their gear and footage was confiscated. I liked the part where the crowd cased the cop away from them.
I did too. As much as I bitch about the media and think they screw us over -- there are some people who literally put their lives at risk in order to report.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:27:40pm |
re: #232 soxfan4life
Detroit wrote the book on that
Last night around 10 or 11 o'clock I went out on the porch. Utter silence! That's when I knew the Red Wings had lost. If they had won, the noise from the car horns would have been unbearable.
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soxfan4life Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:28:07pm |
re: #269 Mich-again
Bullshit. What are you talking about? Heres a link to the story.
This is from the Globe notice the use of Pepper spray bullet. And nowhere was there a mention of burning anything. It was a tragedy, but when you get beer, college kids and a reason to celebrate together these things happen. Speaking of burning up how about those Red Wings.
[Link: www.highbeam.com...]
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:28:47pm |
It looks like a quality movie. I may have to break my self-imposed Hollywood boycott to see it.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:28:57pm |
re: #274 Dark_Falcon
That's the part that give me hope. when the citizens stop being afraid of the secret policeman and proceed to run him off, the tyrant is in deep trouble. Almost as impressive is that the BBC report actually called him a secret policeman. That's actually very good from them.
I read a report somewhere that said there were loads of secret police mobilised, not wearing any kind of uniform, and beating people in the streets indiscriminately. I'll try to find it.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:29:31pm |
re: MrPaulRevere
It looks like a quality movie. I may have to break my self-imposed Hollywood boycott to see it.
The movie is a British import, not something from Hollywood.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:29:38pm |
re: #231 iceweasel
Got it! Is it me or do most of the rioters - like about 90% of them seem to be young people - under 35 or so?!
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:29:44pm |
Feel free to spout bullshit about the D when I'm not here so no one will question you. As if Detroit had some kind of monopoly on idiot fans bent on burning stuff after a title win. Pffph.
Truth is, it can happen anywhere and will. All it takes is one idiot. Since '84 the Pistons have won 3 titles and the Wings have won 4 and there has not been any riots or people trying to burn the city down in the aftermath.
Lots of cities have not been tested in decades. Who knows what would happen if a Championship came their way.
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gearhead Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:30:08pm |
Reports via Twitter that Khatami has been arrested.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:30:41pm |
LA Staples Center live feed from NBC dropped.
CBS is now up but 5 minutes left before they need more fuel.
[Link: a123.g.akamai.net...]
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:31:10pm |
Globe freelancer detained and beaten:
[Link: www.theglobeandmail.com...]
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livefreeor die Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:31:11pm |
re: #136 laxmatt1984
Most important moment in world history since 9/11 and you're blathering on about the creationists?
Lord have mercy.
LFG failed this weekend. You could have been an information hub like Sullivan or even the miserable Huffington Post.
The people of Iran NEED OUR HELP!
re: #150 laxmatt1984
Wear green tomorrow. Contact your congressperson and media.
You yell at us for blathering during the "most important moment in world history since 9/11" and then part of your big plan is "wear green"?
Boy, that'll show 'em.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:31:27pm |
re: #272 realwest
Well I suppose that's all true, but to be candid with you, and I've said this before, Iran's military hasn't been tested in any way since the Iran/Iraq War over 25 years or so ago and I still think that the Mullahs will simply a) change the leadership of the "vaunted revolutionary guards", b) change the Ministers he thinks need counting and definity change the Interior ministery.
And I feel this way because Kahmeni won't allow Dinnerjacket to become a true "rival". Think of Kahmeni as Daley and Dinnerjacket as a shorter version of Blago.
You might have something, my read is the Mullahs (Kahmeni) tried to ease Dinnerjacket out with Mousavi. But Mousavi got to popular with the people and maybe slipped the leash with the reform movement. The Mullahs had to do something, Mousavi was getting more dangerous to them with the reform movement than Dinnerjacket.
Lot of internal power politics going on, has been for awhile. Overlay the election, the "surprise" result and things have spun out of control.
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:31:29pm |
re: #291 soxfan4life
notice the use of Pepper spray bullet.
I am not familiar with the "Pepper spray bullet". Sounds like you are making shit up there.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:32:31pm |
re: jcm
You might have something, my read is the Mullahs (Kahmeni) tried to ease Dinnerjacket out with Mousavi. But Mousavi got to popular with the people and maybe slipped the leash with the reform movement. The Mullahs had to do something, Mousavi was getting more dangerous to them with the reform movement than Dinnerjacket.
Lot of internal power politics going on, has been for awhile. Overlay the election, the "surprise" result and things have spun out of control.
And the end result is a lot of people will die.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:33:31pm |
re: Mich-again
I am not familiar with the "Pepper spray bullet". Sounds like you are making shit up there.
You mean you haven't heard of the new "paper cut and lemon juice" bullet?!? ;)
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:33:48pm |
re: #267 Floral Giraffe
Lakers won the championship. Opportunists destroying anything they can.
Fucking idjits. How the hell is destroying everything in sight a way to celebrate anything?!
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:33:51pm |
re: #304 FurryOldGuyJeans
And the end result is a lot of people will die.
The Mullahs will not tolerate an end of their kleptocracy. They own the State Economy and aren't going to give up the cash flow without a fight.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:33:52pm |
re: #295 realwest
Got it! Is it me or do most of the rioters - like about 90% of them seem to be young people - under 35 or so?!
It's not just you. I forget the exact numbers--i can find them-- but the Iranian youth pop is HUGE. Even bigger than our own demographic shift. They're the single biggest voting block in Iran, if I remember rightly.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:34:10pm |
Evolution is the best evidence against not only the existence of a God, but of a "universal morality" or "greater good".
/ and how are we all doing this morning?
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:34:25pm |
re: #303 Mich-again
I am not familiar with the "Pepper spray bullet". Sounds like you are making shit up there.
They have 12ga pepper spray slugs, burst on contact.
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:34:27pm |
re: #301 livefreeor die
You yell at us for blathering during the "most important moment in world history since 9/11" and then part of your big plan is "wear green"?
Boy, that'll show 'em.
"I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
At least it's something. Better idea: ring up your Congressman. I'm doing that tomorrow.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:35:29pm |
re: #300 Pvt Bin Jammin
Fascist Obama will stop at nothing to silence dissent!
/
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:35:37pm |
re: #304 FurryOldGuyJeans
And the end result is a lot of people will die.
Yep.....
Let's just hope more of the tyrants and their minions.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:35:45pm |
re: #302 jcm
Yesterday on CNN International, anti-Ahmadinejad protests by Iranian-/Persian-Americans in San Francisco. "Where's My Vote?" and "Ahmadinejad is NOT my President" posters and all.
/perhaps slightly ironic given the attendance to anti-Ayatollah demonstrations as of late...
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:36:03pm |
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:36:25pm |
Oh no-- this is very bad if true
11:54 PM ET -- Expecting more violence. From reader Arif: "I've got a few American cousins [in Iran] visiting family, and I just got off the phone with them and the rumor going around is that that the police/basij have been given orders to use live fire if necessary. The feeling is that today could get really violent, especially if mossavi is not allowed to speak at the 4pm rally, or if people do not like what he has to say."
from the HuffPo live blogging. Hopefully this is just a rumour!
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:36:39pm |
When I think of Michigan and riot at the same time, I think of East Lansing, not Detroit - at least not since the late 60s.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:36:46pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:37:13pm |
re: #310 jcm
They have 12ga pepper spray slugs, burst on contact.
Sounds like a nice thing to shoot at people who are "celebrating".
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:37:57pm |
re: #274 Dark_Falcon
That's the part that give me hope. when the citizens stop being afraid of the secret policeman and proceed to run him off, the tyrant is in deep trouble. Almost as impressive is that the BBC report actually called him a secret policeman. That's actually very good from them.
That's actually very good for ANYONE.
.
Crazy night, I'm defending the BBC?!
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JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:38:00pm |
Oh, I finally made it to the new thread ... Hey! ... I love this Hiatt song ... again ... I miss home ....
when I retire ... if I ever do ... which I doubt ... I am going home ... I am getting a camp on Lake Catherine ... and fishing whenever I want ... and eating crawfish every single day they are available ... anyone ever seen a Crawfish Jamboree? ... funny ....
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:38:31pm |
re: #319 Pvt Bin Jammin
I really think the wishing for Obama's failure is going to end up being an epic fail.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:38:39pm |
re: #320 Mich-again
Sounds like a nice thing to shoot at people who are "celebrating".
Seattle WTO '99 could have used a whole bunch.... but the City decided to let them "protest."
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:39:42pm |
Police beating people in their home yard 14 June 2009 Tehran Iran
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livefreeor die Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:39:56pm |
re: #311 Zimriel
"I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
At least it's something. Better idea: ring up your Congressman. I'm doing that tomorrow.
Will do. Although one of my Senators is Specter and last time I called his office was to tell him to vote against the stimulus plan...
My other Senator is Bob "Dumb as a rock" Casey.
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JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:40:02pm |
re: #323 Killgore Trout
I really think the wishing for Obama's failure is going to end up being an epic fail.
KT ... if wishing for Obama's failure in his attempt to bring this country closer to Socialism ... on that part I hope he fails ... on his attempts (if he has any) to keep this country safe .. that part I Hope he succeeds ...
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:41:05pm |
re: #323 Killgore Trout
I just hope he doesn't implement the policies he seems to love.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:42:35pm |
re: #327 JacksonTn
KT ... if wishing for Obama's failure in his attempt to bring this country closer to Socialism ... on that part I hope he fails ... on his attempts (if he has any) to keep this country safe .. that part I Hope he succeeds ...
I'll give you credit for differentiating but the GOP has hinged its hopes on Obama's failure and America's destruction. I'm thinking that it's going to end up being a bad bet.
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:43:36pm |
Geez. When Baltimore won a championship, I remember we all went out on our balconies and grinned at each other like idiots. There was a gigantic parade, and there was no rioting.
Baltimore kind of rolls the sidewalks up at night, if truth be told.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:45:23pm |
re: Killgore Trout
You're right...mindlesslycheerleading a government-led takeover of the banking industry, auto industry and healthcare industry would be so much better in the long run.
/I know this because the 'Republicans' who voted for 0bama told me so!
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:45:38pm |
re: #329 Killgore Trout
I'm thinking that it's going to end up being a bad bet.
Yes it will. Its a horrible theme upon which to base a political strategy.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:46:13pm |
re: #302 jcm
You might have something, my read is the Mullahs (Kahmeni) tried to ease Dinnerjacket out with Mousavi. But Mousavi got to popular with the people and maybe slipped the leash with the reform movement. The Mullahs had to do something, Mousavi was getting more dangerous to them with the reform movement than Dinnerjacket.
Lot of internal power politics going on, has been for awhile. Overlay the election, the "surprise" result and things have spun out of control.
Hey jcm, that could very well be what's been happening - perhaps if the Mullah's had allowed the victory margin to be a lot closer, that would have chastised Dinnerjacket and emboldend Mousavi, but perhaps not led to the rioting and all going on now - and we both know they could've taken Mousavi out of the picture anytime they wanted to.
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:46:56pm |
re: #326 livefreeor die
Will do. Although one of my Senators is Specter and last time I called his office was to tell him to vote against the stimulus plan...
My other Senator is Bob "Dumb as a rock" Casey.
My senators and congressman are dufuses. Sometimes I call Rep. Bartlett's office (a nearby district) just to hear a sane voice.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:47:11pm |
re: #317 iceweasel
Oh no-- this is very bad if true
from the HuffPo live blogging. Hopefully this is just a rumour!
If they do that, the US should respond by bombing Basji barracks and troop columns. Hit hard and fast and make it plain: To attack those fighting for freedom is to make a deadly enemy. Find your balls, Barack! You can be a hero here, and everyone will love you if you help take down the Tehran Tyrants.
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JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:47:24pm |
re: #329 Killgore Trout
I'll give you credit for differentiating but the GOP has hinged its hopes on Obama's failure and America's destruction. I'm thinking that it's going to end up being a bad bet.
KT ... not sure if you remember or not .... but I stated some time ago ... that I am done with my initial pissed off about Obama ... I (hopefully) can make the distinction between my dislike for him and my want for a safe U.S. ... he has not show me much yet in terms of his making it clear where he stands and IMO is still in campaign mode ...
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gearhead Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:47:34pm |
WE NEED HELP. WE NEED SUPPORT. Time is not on our side, waiting and making sure means more casualties, more disappointment, more brutality.
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:48:09pm |
re: #333 realwest
and we both know they could've taken Mousavi out of the picture anytime they wanted to.
They vet the list of candidates before the candidates make it onto the ballot. The Mullahs gave him permission to run for office or he wouldn't have gotten as far as he did.
Iranian "elections" are all a sham.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:49:56pm |
re: #308 iceweasel Yeah and I suspect that they would be the ones most chafffing at the rule of the Mullocracy as well.
Justdanny said several times that the youth in Iran is deeply concerned because they see no future (although he also said they'd join Iran in fighting any US interference in their internal affairs) for them in Iran.
And while I AM TERRIBLY SORRY that so many people are being hurt and killed, I can't help but also say that Iran brought all of this on itself.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:50:33pm |
re: Mich-again
True.....and now there's fallout because the Iranian voters were denied their choice- even though many of them already felt that it was a sham.....
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:50:37pm |
re: Mich-again
They vet the list of candidates before the candidates make it onto the ballot. The Mullahs gave him permission to run for office or he wouldn't have gotten as far as he did.
Iranian "elections" are all a sham.
The Mullahs tried to throw a sop or reform to appease the masses and are now discovering, like Gorbachev, people want more than a sop.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:51:05pm |
re: #311 Zimriel
Hey Zim! What are you gonna say to your congresscritter? Serious question here.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:51:20pm |
re: #333 realwest
Hey jcm, that could very well be what's been happening - perhaps if the Mullah's had allowed the victory margin to be a lot closer, that would have chastised Dinnerjacket and emboldend Mousavi, but perhaps not led to the rioting and all going on now - and we both know they could've taken Mousavi out of the picture anytime they wanted to.
True, but just taking him out would have also had repercussions. Perhaps in the minds of the Mullahs, having him lose would be less hassles than having him dead.
It's hard to tell, whatever happened the Mullahs bit off more than they could chew.
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NJDhockeyfan Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:51:41pm |
15 June 2009 morning in Tehran protests
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jorline Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:51:59pm |
Question
Look at the FOXNEWS face page and tell me if the guy in the turban isn't photoshopped...just behind Kobe's butt and above the "N" in reign.
Looks like a cut-n-paste job.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:52:33pm |
re: #314 laZardo Hey my friend, how is Phillipine news media covering what's going on in Iran?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:52:45pm |
Hey all, I got distracted.
Still trying to get thru Plato's Republic. So far, all I can say is that I don't think Philosphers should be in charge.
what did I miss? Are we still public?
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:53:14pm |
re: #337 gearhead
WE NEED HELP. WE NEED SUPPORT. Time is not on our side, waiting and making sure means more casualties, more disappointment, more brutality.
The most essential need of young Iranians is to be recognized by US government. They need them not to accept the results and do not talk to A.N government as an official, approved one. They need help by sending true information. All the medias are under arrest or close control. Help them have the information.
They only try to show the fraud to the world. Help them please. You can not imagine the level of brutality we saw these two awful days.
I said essentially that when this started. The best support we could give them is recognize their legitimacy.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:53:36pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:53:48pm |
re: #339 Catttt
Mr. Sullivan and I are on the same page on that one.
As am I. I've been reading up on Iran's military, and it's somewhat worse than I thought. We can smash their air force fairly easily, but their navy has gone and built a fair number of minisubs to go along with the 3 Kilos they bought from Russia. They might have enough to make trouble for our Navy. We'd still win but we might lose ships in so doing.
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JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:53:52pm |
I have been really busy these last few days and I am not up on all the new stuff ... are we still in stealth mode or is this a public thread? ....
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:54:01pm |
re: #341 Fenway_Nation
I blame Bush for the mess in Iran! / If not for him the Mullahs would have felt perfectly fine eliminating all the potential reform candidates from the list of acceptable candidates for office and Ahmadinejad would have had a walk in the park and there wouldn't have even been a contested election.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:54:09pm |
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:54:16pm |
re: #343 realwest
Hey Zim! What are you gonna say to your congresscritter? Serious question here.
Something along the lines of, "Is Representative Culberson aware of the illegitimacy of the recent election in Iran, and do the Congress or at least the Republican caucus have a plan for how to help the reformers there?"
A long sentence, maybe...
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poteen Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:54:25pm |
re: #320 Mich-again
Sounds like a nice thing to shoot at people who are "celebrating".
They use them in the jails also for less than lethal inmate control. They work.
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jorline Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:55:07pm |
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:55:17pm |
At #1511 on the private thread, Sharmuta just made the LGF stalker community her collective b&tch
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:55:24pm |
re: #358 poteen
Apparently they aren't always less than lethal.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:56:02pm |
What, if anything, has Jimmah said about all this? You think he'd be a little miffed he wasn't called to "bless" the election --or was he?
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austin_blue Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:56:03pm |
re: #294 FurryOldGuyJeans
The movie is a British import, not something from Hollywood.
I'm actually a bit uncomfortable with the scene with the chimp. It juxtaposes the Sistine Chapel with Darwin, placing him in the position of God. That is not what he was about. Schlock is schlock, whether from Hollywood or England, and that scene will be red meat for the great unwashed who see Darwinian evolution as a replacement for the "truth" of Biblical teaching.
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Macker Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:56:17pm |
re: #217 Floral Giraffe
It's how some people choose to celebrate a Lakers Championship.
Wouldn't it be funny if the various sports leagues initiated the following rule: Riot after your team wins a championship, and they forfeit it to the team they beat!
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:56:55pm |
re: #317 iceweasel Well from my limited perspective, things have been pretty damn violent already. Wonder what will happen if they do start using live fire? And I'm not sure what it means when that commenter said or relayed that
"The feeling is that today could get really violent, especially if mossavi is not allowed to speak at the 4pm rally, or if people do not like what he has to say."
What's your take on that statement? That Moussavi should urge his supporters to keep fighting - how the hell can they do that if DinnerJacket/Mullahs authorize live fire from their version of the Gestapo?!
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Macker Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:57:09pm |
re: #336 JacksonTn
And The One™ will always be in Campaign Mode!
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:57:21pm |
I see that the situation in Tehran gets 4th billing on FOX news homepage...
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poteen Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:57:22pm |
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JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:57:37pm |
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Mich-again Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:57:48pm |
re: #362 ggt
Jimmah has been bizzy on a listening tour in the West Bank.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:58:01pm |
re: #349 realwest
Sorry for the delay, having lunch.
Haven't checked local media right now...but I can probably say they'll be drawing a few comparisons to our own "rigged" elections.
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:58:06pm |
re: #363 austin_blue
I'm actually a bit uncomfortable with the scene with the chimp. It juxtaposes the Sistine Chapel with Darwin, placing him in the position of God. That is not what he was about. Schlock is schlock, whether from Hollywood or England, and that scene will be red meat for the great unwashed who see Darwinian evolution as a replacement for the "truth" of Biblical teaching.
Yeah, I don't like the Darwin Fish for similar reasons. It implies that Darwin is an evolution from Christianity, which is false, and insulting not just to Christians but to anyone serious about the scientific method.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:58:14pm |
re: Fenway_Nation
I see that the situation in Tehran gets 4th billing on FOX news homepage...
And what is it on CNN?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:58:29pm |
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gearhead Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:58:40pm |
re: #351 jcm
The best support we could give them is recognize their legitimacy.
Let's hope the WH is just waiting for the Monday morning news cycle.
(not holding my breath)
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:59:32pm |
Now if I were President, I would promptly issue a Reaganesque statement along the lines of "The United States of America supports free and fair elections. People who yearn to be free should always know they have a friend in America". Apparently Obama does not want to undercut Ahmadinejad, because he thinks he can cut a deal with him. Not only is this delusional, it is a wrong on every level.
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JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:59:49pm |
re: #375 gearhead
Let's hope the WH is just waiting for the Monday morning news cycle.
(not holding my breath)
Gearhead ... the only "news" cycle they look for is the Friday evening news dump ...
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:00:30pm |
re: #374 Killgore Trout
Looks legit to me too. He's a sikh. If you refer to them as "Sadr Gee" (means something like honorable one) they will be yer bestest friend forever. Good folks, good food.
Yep. I was going to ID him as a sikh. I forgot that you lived in India. My ex brother-in-law moved there decades ago and never came back. Well, he does visit the USA once in a while.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:00:39pm |
re: #323 Killgore Trout
Killgore, I downdinged you for that only because I don't want Obama to fail - that would be disasterous for my country, but I do want his more socialistic policies to fail. I know from observing some of your "converstations" out here with 3 wood that you know what I mean by that, too.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:00:50pm |
re: #375 gearhead
Let's hope the WH is just waiting for the Monday morning news cycle.
(not holding my breath)
Biden gave the plan away on the morning shows.....
The fence is fine with them.
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:00:53pm |
re: #376 MrPaulRevere
Now if I were President, I would promptly issue a Reaganesque statement along the lines of "The United States of America supports free and fair elections. People who yearn to be free should always know they have a friend in America".
Insofar as he does that, I hope he succeeds.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:01:00pm |
re: FurryOldGuyJeans
I haven't tuned in for awhile, but when I was channel surfing, Headline news had their requisite cute-missing-white-girl coverage and the main CNN channel was replaying Larry King's interview with Achemdinejhad....
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laZardo Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:01:35pm |
re: #380 jcm
At least Bushisms were funny. Bidenisms get me a bit scared sometimes.
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Macker Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:02:09pm |
re: #381 Zimriel
Insofar as he does that, I hope he succeeds.
I hope he comes out to issue such a statement too, then I wouldn't have to refer to him as الرئيس أوباما.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:02:13pm |
re: #378 Gus 802
Yep. I was going to ID him as a sikh. I forgot that you lived in India. My ex brother-in-law moved there decades ago and never came back. Well, he does visit the USA once in a while.
Our IT guy is a Sikh, he's a really good guy. Just among his friends, we call him our "token" terrorist.
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JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:03:02pm |
re: #382 Fenway_Nation
I haven't tuned in for awhile, but when I was channel surfing, Headline news had their requisite cute-missing-white-girl coverage and the main CNN channel was replaying Larry King's interview with Achemdinejhad....
FN ... what is this Tv that you are talking about? ...
/I HATE TELEVISION ... okay .... except for the shopping channels ...
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Macker Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:03:10pm |
re: #385 jcm
Our IT guy is a Sikh, he's a really good guy. Just among his friends, we call him our "token" terrorist.
And does he take it in good nature, 'cause he a Sikh?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:03:14pm |
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:03:23pm |
re: #383 laZardo
At least Bushisms were funny. Bidenisms get me a bit scared sometimes.
And Bush made fun of Bushisms....
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:04:17pm |
re: #348 jorline
Question
Look at the FOXNEWS face page and tell me if the guy in the turban isn't photoshopped...just behind Kobe's butt and above the "N" in reign.
Looks like a cut-n-paste job.
No, there really is a Sikh guy there. He's standing in front of the stands - saw him in the uncropped pic on Yahoo. He might be a camera guy or something.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:04:42pm |
OK...to their credit, CNN has several different stories on the situatuation on their front page, including international protests.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:04:46pm |
re: #329 Killgore Trout
"the GOP has hinged its hopes on Obama's failure and America's destruction." [emphasis realwest] - where in the fuck do you get that? What AMERICAN - regardless of political party or left/right bullshit want's America's destruction?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:05:13pm |
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:05:18pm |
re: #340 realwest
Yeah and I suspect that they would be the ones most chafffing at the rule of the Mullocracy as well.
Justdanny said several times that the youth in Iran is deeply concerned because they see no future (although he also said they'd join Iran in fighting any US interference in their internal affairs for them in Iran.
And while I AM TERRIBLY SORRY that so many people are being hurt and killed, I can't help but also say that Iran brought all of this on itself.
Agree with you. And what you said here highlights the problem for us:
he also said they'd join Iran in fighting any US interference in their internal affairs
I don't have any problem with us waiting to intervene, only because it's so important that we not make it appear like we're installing our own choice. i read something that captures how I feel about it:
"At the end of the day, this is about the Iranians and not about us. But I would like my country to do whatever will best help the opposition succeed. Mostly, that means keeping our mouths shut and letting the Iranians fight for their own country. But just because the United States should not be involved in actively helping the resistance, that doesn’t mean it should stamp a seal of approval on the really awful bullshit that’s going down right now."
And i don't see how Obama can continue with his plans to engage them. Widespread beatings of demonstrators, a stolen election, and a government that has lost all legitimacy in the eyes of its own people.
Obama better not recognise the election as being legitimate like the EU is.
Six and a half hours now til the 4pm protest in Tehran where Mousavi is supposedly going to speak....
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:05:35pm |
"WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is determined to press on with efforts to engage the Iranian government, senior officials said Saturday, despite misgivings about irregularities in the re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad." Translation: They haven't the faintest idea of what to do. They are paralyzed.
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zombie Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:05:49pm |
Hmmmmmm.....Just watched the "Creation" trailer. I haven't seen the whole film yet, but based on the trailer, it seemed a bit, ummm, ahistorical, shall we say. I.e. they made stuff up, and messed with timeframes, to make it movie-worthy.
In reality, Darwin spent 21 years writing that book -- well, 13 if you set aside the 8 years in the middle writing the barnacle book. And (not sure if the film conveys this) he was basically forced into finishing it when he got Wallace's letter outlining the exact same theory and stating that too was working on a similar book. Darwin did sort of write the book unwillingly, because he felt he "wasn't ready yet" due to not having all the necessary data. But I really don't think he personally cared too much about the religious or political consequences. He knew his theory would rock society's boat, but that was not the reason he delayed and procrastinated finishing it. He simply wanted to spend more time gathering supporting data, and didn't want to have his theory stand on shaky factual ground.
Also, his wife looked nothing like Jennifer Connelly.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:05:57pm |
re: #385 jcm
Our IT guy is a Sikh, he's a really good guy. Just among his friends, we call him our "token" terrorist.
I remember in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 that some sikhs were being harassed by some American knuckleheads.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:06:21pm |
re: #387 Macker
And does he take it in good nature, 'cause he a Sikh?
Yeah, he's also was born in Canada we don't let him forget that either, we've got a bunch with a wicked sense of humor. One guy is Hawaiian, he's a "Hawaiian Separatist." I'm the ringwingunut.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:07:23pm |
re: #329 Killgore Trout
I'll give you credit for differentiating but the GOP has hinged its hopes on Obama's failure and America's destruction. I'm thinking that it's going to end up being a bad bet.
Obama's success is America's destruction.
Unless you think what the Euro's have is just peachy.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:07:54pm |
re: #365 realwest
Well from my limited perspective, things have been pretty damn violent already. Wonder what will happen if they do start using live fire? And I'm not sure what it means when that commenter said or relayed that
"The feeling is that today could get really violent, especially if mossavi is not allowed to speak at the 4pm rally, or if people do not like what he has to say."
What's your take on that statement? That Moussavi should urge his supporters to keep fighting - how the hell can they do that if DinnerJacket/Mullahs authorize live fire from their version of the Gestapo?!
I don't know what that statement means. I'm guessing there might be some fear that Mousavi will cave because he's got to be in fear for his life, and disappoint everyone by saying they should all accept the results.
But if they're going to start firing on demonstrators and protestors, how the hell can they keep fighting?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:08:05pm |
re: #388 Killgore Trout
Dhoom Punjabi!
Dang. I was hoping for some kind of Punjabi influenced Doom Metal. Still cool, though.
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gearhead Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:08:13pm |
re: #391 Fenway_Nation
OK...to their credit, CNN has several different stories on the situatuation on their front page, including international protests.
They have been getting hammered on Twitter (there's a "#CNNFail" category), enough for a couple of anchors to chime in and defend their coverage.
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ladycatnip Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:08:20pm |
For all supporters worshipers of The One, this is but a small sampling of what we can expect in the next four years. Cronyism and corruption involved in the illegal firing of Inspector General Walpin. Walpin's mistake was investigating corruption by an Obama supporter. Big no-no.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:08:54pm |
re: #397 Gus 802
I remember in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 that some sikhs were being harassed by some American knuckleheads.
One in was killed, a gas station owner IIRC. I and a few others intervened at a park near Seattle where a Sikh family was being harassed by some punks during that time.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:09:20pm |
re: gearhead
They have been getting hammered on Twitter (there's a "#CNNFail" category), enough for a couple of anchors to chime in and defend their coverage.
It is the twitter talk that prompted my question of what is CNN's coverage.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:09:43pm |
re: jcm
One in was killed, a gas station owner IIRC. I and a few others intervened at a park near Seattle where a Sikh family was being harassed by some punks during that time.
One in where, jcm?
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:09:47pm |
re: #404 jcm
One in was killed, a gas station owner IIRC. I and a few others intervened at a park near Seattle where a Sikh family was being harassed by some punks during that time.
Indeed.
Balbir Singh Sodhi
Had to look it up.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[Link: fateh.sikhnet.com...]
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:09:53pm |
re: #391 Fenway_Nation
OK...to their credit, CNN has several different stories on the situatuation on their front page, including international protests.
CNN was taking a massive beating on Twitter today for their earlier failure of coverage. People were using the hashtag #cnnfail to co-ordinate it.
I think CNN got the message and is playing catchup.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:10:00pm |
re: gearhead
Yep...one hearling clearly mentions the twitter aspect.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:10:12pm |
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Racer X Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:11:19pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:11:20pm |
re: #396 zombie
Also, his wife looked nothing like Jennifer Connelly.
If she had, and if he were anything like me, he would have neither the time nor the energy to devote scientific studies or book writing.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:11:34pm |
re: #364 Macker
Unfortunately, it's not the "fans" of the winning team causing the trouble. It's the opportunists. Looks like the LAPD has learned some lessons from the "Rodney King riots". They're prepared, out in force, and have an unlawful gathering order, and their riot gear. Sadly, they are very near 2 major freeways, and it sounds like they are disrupting them. I hope the LAPD can control these opportunists.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:11:43pm |
re: #351 jcm
WE NEED HELP. WE NEED SUPPORT. Time is not on our side, waiting and making sure means more casualties, more disappointment, more brutality.
The most essential need of young Iranians is to be recognized by US government. They need them not to accept the results and do not talk to A.N government as an official, approved one. They need help by sending true information. All the medias are under arrest or close control. Help them have the information.
They only try to show the fraud to the world. Help them please. You can not imagine the level of brutality we saw these two awful days.I said essentially that when this started. The best support we could give them is recognize their legitimacy.
How do we do that jcm? How do we say that the 38% (or whatever it was) represents the will of the people of Iran and we won't abide by the Majorities victory? Call or Demand new elections YES, but again, how do we - as a government - recognize those that lost the election? And if there's a way to do that, why the fuck didn't we do it when Hamas won it's first election victory?
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jorline Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:12:06pm |
Hey Charles...how much hate mail are you receiving about the Private Thread?
The stalkers must really hate it...lol
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:12:16pm |
re: #396 zombie
Oh, come on. Mrs. Darwin was pretty as a younger woman. Sure, you won't find dozens of pictures of her boobs the Internet, but still....../
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laZardo Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:12:41pm |
re: #403 ladycatnip
Said Obama supporter also happens to be the current Mayor of Sacramento.
I will need to see details on those receipts though.
/used to live in Sacramento 2004-06, was like "wait, when did this happen!?"
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:12:59pm |
re: jorline
Hey Charles...how much hate mail are you receiving about the Private Thread?
The stalkers must really hate it...lol
It is quite a hit at the stalker blog apparently.
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:13:42pm |
re: #418 FurryOldGuyJeans
It is quite a hit at the stalker blog apparently.
Well, bwa ha hahaha. Ha.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:14:00pm |
re: #367 Fenway_Nation
Where does it rate on CBS, CNN and MSNBC?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:15:35pm |
re: realwest
Not sure about the TV station....my TV has been off for awhile. I was just going from website to website.
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:15:57pm |
re: #419 Catttt
Well, bwa ha hahaha. Ha.
Wouldn't THEY like to know what Sharmi said about them... :evil grin:
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:16:01pm |
re: #418 FurryOldGuyJeans
Iz can't reed wot teh lizurds be thinkins. Wot-evah wil I doo wit mai tiem? Mai liefs hav lost all meenings!
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Gella Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:16:06pm |
when is the release date for the movie?
btw even on imdb.com ppl argue about his theory
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:16:27pm |
re: #403 ladycatnip
For all
supportersworshipers of The One, this is but a small sampling of what we can expect in the next four years. Cronyism and corruption involved in the illegal firing of Inspector General Walpin. Walpin's mistake was investigating corruption by an Obama supporter. Big no-no.
Very interesting! Thanks for posting.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:16:27pm |
Canadian journalist detained and beaten: a first-person account. "For a few terrifying hours Sunday, I was mistaken for an anti-government protester, giving me a glimpse into how the hundreds arrested over the weekend are being treated by authorities in a system where dissidents are known to 'disappear' and not be seen again for months."
Full account here: Canadian journalist reporting today from Tehran
[Link: www.theglobeandmail.com...]
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:16:40pm |
re: #422 Zimriel
Wouldn't THEY like to know what Sharmi said about them... :evil grin:
I have an impulse to giggle like a little girl. :D
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Zimriel Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:16:47pm |
Good night lizards. I'll dream about mullahs in jail cells tonight
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:17:11pm |
re: #376 MrPaulRevere
Do you really think that Obama does not want to undercut Ahmadinejad, because he thinks he can cut a deal with him. ?
I'm entirely sympathetic to those who opposed the Mullahs (Dinnerjacet) so please don't misunderstand my question, but do you really think that Obama hasn't come out with a strong condemnation cause he thinks he can cut a deal with Dinnerjacket?!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:17:13pm |
Iz can't reed wot teh lizurds be thinkins. Wot-evah wil I doo wit mai tiem? Mai liefs hav lost all meenings!
Did you read what Sharm said in the private thread for the stalkers? What a frakking hoot! ;)
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:17:19pm |
re: #414 realwest
How do we do that jcm? How do we say that the 38% (or whatever it was) represents the will of the people of Iran and we won't abide by the Majorities victory? Call or Demand new elections YES, but again, how do we - as a government - recognize those that lost the election? And if there's a way to do that, why the fuck didn't we do it when Hamas won it's first election victory?
Did we come to the conclusion that the pint sized incumbent legitimately won the election?
The Hamas election was accepted as a 'legitimate' victory, despite the thuggery. We were also the ones calling for elections, so then to immediately not accept the result would have been more of a fumble than it already was.
In Iran it doesn't appear that they even counted the votes in the first place, and we also didn't pressure anyone into having these elections.
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:17:29pm |
Uh oh. Siamese cat woke up and realized I'm not in bed yet. Trouble brewing.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:17:39pm |
re: #423 Slumbering Behemoth
Iz can't reed wot teh lizurds be thinkins. Wot-evah wil I doo wit mai tiem? Mai liefs hav lost all meenings!
It should be interesting to see if once the private threads are completely sealed if any wind up on the stalker sites. It would point to a spy!
//
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:18:05pm |
re: Zimriel
Might as well go all the way and dream about them dangling from cranes....
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:18:17pm |
re: Catttt
Uh oh. Siamese cat woke up and realized I'm not in bed yet. Trouble brewing.
Must. Obey. Feline. Overlords.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:18:33pm |
re: #423 Slumbering Behemoth
Iz can't reed wot teh lizurds be thinkins. Wot-evah wil I doo wit mai tiem? Mai liefs hav lost all meenings!
[smiles]
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austin_blue Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:19:40pm |
re: #394 iceweasel
And i don't see how Obama can continue with his plans to engage them. Widespread beatings of demonstrators, a stolen election, and a government that has lost all legitimacy in the eyes of its own people.
Obama better not recognise the election as being legitimate like the EU is.
Six and a half hours now til the 4pm protest in Tehran where Mousavi is supposedly going to speak....
First off, let me state that, IMO, the results are hinky. So, how can it be proved? Upthread, Laxmatt got hammered for calling this board out, which was deserved. But he made a salient comment, that this is an information war. Apparently, he does not realize that all of Iran's Internet access goes through a single server block in Tehran. Again, without monitors, the results can be manipulated any way the Guardian Council wants. They are in charge. Dinnerjacket was (and may continue to be) the President, but, at a fundamental power level, he is about third on the totem pole. If the election is ratified, he will continue to be the mouthpiece for his Masters.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:20:59pm |
BTW, will Jake Tapper (a.k.a. the only journalist in America who's asked anything resembling a tough question to the 0bama administration) will bring up the silence from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave on a flegeling anti-totalitarian movement overseas?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:21:39pm |
re: #429 realwest
Do you really think that Obama does not want to undercut Ahmadinejad, because he thinks he can cut a deal with him. ?
I'm entirely sympathetic to those who opposed the Mullahs (Dinnerjacet) so please don't misunderstand my question, but do you really think that Obama hasn't come out with a strong condemnation cause he thinks he can cut a deal with Dinnerjacket?!
He might not want to seem like America is being "hegemonic". In reality, this uprising is Obama's best chance for a deal. If Short Shit falls and the mullahs are removed or humbled, we might have an Iranian government that wants to deal.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:21:47pm |
re: #414 realwest
How do we do that jcm? How do we say that the 38% (or whatever it was) represents the will of the people of Iran and we won't abide by the Majorities victory? Call or Demand new elections YES, but again, how do we - as a government - recognize those that lost the election? And if there's a way to do that, why the fuck didn't we do it when Hamas won it's first election victory?
The Mullahs are an illegitimate government, the election was fraudulent. It's in everyones interest to see the Mullahs ousted. Recognizing the opposition will encourage them. It also has the effect of undermines the mullahs both at home and abroad.
The difference with Hamas is they actually appear to have won, maybe the Palis will learn, maybe not.
Elections in Thugocracies are not so much for internal justification, but for international consumption, idiots like Rabbit Bait and the UN say "see they were elected" and give them legitimacy.
Our own revolution had iffy support, especially after Washington had to retreat from New York.
What RIGHT also should be considered.
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JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:21:50pm |
Just a reminder ... white blue collar democrats .. the democrats don't need you ...and oh, yeah, we have a black president now ... Donna ... although I am not bitter ... (I have gotten over that) ... the dems are not fooling me ... they won without us and they know that they don't need us going forward .... I hardly ever say this .... being a female but Donna Brazile was a bitch ... Donna and the ACORN people suck ... I am on to important things but I will NEVER forget how this man came to power .... NEVER ... so who is the real racists? ... and as to CNN ... how could they have allowed Roland Martin and Donna Brazile to be commentators? .... they had a stacked deck from the friggin beginning ... they had an agenda which they hoped the average citizen would just overlook and the person voting for Obama just because of his skin color did not care .... fuck it ... I don't care how that sounds but it is the truth .... they had an agenda and it was ... WIN AT ANY COST ....
for the dems on this blog ... what do you say about the "inclusive party" .... ALL PARTIES USE ....
/Oh, yeah when are we going to see the Khalidi tapes? .... we know how quickly he changed positions on Israel after the AIPAC speech because of his left-wing blogs ... when?....
/rant off ...
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:22:16pm |
re: #429 realwest
I think Hillary Clinton and all his advisor's come from the Kissinger school of thought, which values stability and diplomacy over everything else.
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Catttt Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:22:44pm |
re: #435 FurryOldGuyJeans
Must. Obey. Feline. Overlords.
He cussed a bit and went back to bed. He got in trouble earlier and is still sulking.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:24:31pm |
re: #394 iceweasel
I'm sorry iceweasel, I think I'm just too tired to think about this now. I mean, the Iranian "dissidents" are for the most part largel UNARMED. If the Mullah's give the OK for their Gestapo to use live fire, how are they gonna fight back? I mean, how appropriate would it be if the US just stood back and let that happen (as opposed to, for example, getting weapons into the hands of the dissidents - not getting involved in any other way militarily - no Special Forces trainers or anything, but just supplying them with guns and ammo)?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:24:58pm |
re: Catttt
He cussed a bit and went back to bed. He got in trouble earlier and is still sulking.
You're lucky, my fixed female doesn't sulk, she gets EVEN.
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laZardo Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:25:13pm |
re: #447 realwest
Well, it'd be perfect for the so-called "bleeding hearts" to take their attention off the Palestinians for a while, maybe sober up on the reality behind the Iranian situation.
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jorline Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:26:25pm |
Nodding off...time for bed.
See y'all in the morning.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:26:44pm |
re: #426 iceweasel
Some days I like the internet, other days I hate the crazy stupid it contains. A comment posted at the article you linked:
It is good that the reporter got promptly released without being tortured.
The same cannot be said for many people around the world who have been "rendered", "detained" and tortured by agents of the federal government of the United States of America.
Yeah, that. The U.S. treats people so much worse than tyrannical theocracies that oppress, murder and torture their own people. Fucking idiot.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:26:51pm |
re: #439 Fenway_Nation
BTW, will Jake Tapper (a.k.a. the only journalist in America who's asked anything resembling a tough question to the 0bama administration) will bring up the silence from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave on a flegeling anti-totalitarian movement overseas?
Tapper is covering it; he's actually supporting the silence right now:
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]
We're reacting to concrete facts," a White House official tells ABC News. "We're collecting them still."
That said, the primary concerns the White House has about Iran are not about free and fair elections. The concerns are: Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons and its support for terrorism.
"We have to deal with the Iran that we have rather than the Iran that we wish we had," says the official.
It's worth keeping in mind that President Obama expressing concern for, say, Mir-Hossein Moussavi, wouldn't necessarily be a way to help Moussavi. President Obama on Friday, and Secretary of State Clinton and White House press secretary Robert Gibbs since then, have all spoken about the enthusiasm among Iran's young people, and in so doing seem to be taking a long-term view.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:26:57pm |
Here's the Twitter for the LAPD
[Link: search.twitter.com...]
The rioters are trying to stop the trains.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:27:45pm |
re: #451 Slumbering Behemoth
Some days I like the internet, other days I hate the crazy stupid it contains. A comment posted at the article you linked:
Yeah, that. The U.S. treats people so much worse than tyrannical theocracies that oppress, murder and torture their own people. Fucking idiot.
What a fucking moron.
It's a canadian paper, I havent even looked at the comments there. Bleah.
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JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:28:02pm |
re: #450 jorline
Nodding off...time for bed.
See y'all in the morning.
jorline ... okay ... but do you think you could find my Afrin before you go to bed? ... really ... I am suffering ... kinda ...
Sweet Dreams ...
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Scion9 Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:28:28pm |
re: #429 realwest
I think Obama's foreign policy is one of 'pragmatism', which translates into accepting the regime in power as being legitimate because it is the one in power.
I don't think he is really that ideologically invested in free and fair elections for Iranians. The Mullahs are in power, and he doesn't want to rock their boat because he wants high-level dialogue with them.
You can't negotiate with the faction that is not in power and you must negotiate with the faction that is.
The solution to this problem is to not want to, when things are as critical and insane as they are in Iran. To realize that the Mullahs et al are not trustworthy enough to even let the people have the candidate they want that was preselected by those very Mullahs, and and as such cannot be brokered with in any meaningful way. That any word, promise or bargain they give to foreigners would be worth as much as their overtures to their own people.
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:29:02pm |
re: #447 realwest
I'm sorry iceweasel, I think I'm just too tired to think about this now. I mean, the Iranian "dissidents" are for the most part largel UNARMED. If the Mullah's give the OK for their Gestapo to use live fire, how are they gonna fight back? I mean, how appropriate would it be if the US just stood back and let that happen (as opposed to, for example, getting weapons into the hands of the dissidents - not getting involved in any other way militarily - no Special Forces trainers or anything, but just supplying them with guns and ammo)?
I'm with you on this. (I'm tired too) I hope to hell that doesn't happen--the use of live fire. If it does I think we have a moral duty to intervene! as you suggest
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:29:45pm |
re: #430 FurryOldGuyJeans
I'm tempted to copy and paste it here just so those asshats can read it and seethe. However, I will treat this new feature with the attitude that "What's said on a private thread will stay on a private thread".
For now, anyway.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:29:54pm |
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BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:30:23pm |
re: #446 BatGuano
Hey batBaby! one of my fave nocturnal creatures. Good to see you!
I need to get food, I'll be back. Kisses!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:30:49pm |
re: #451 Slumbering Behemoth
Some days I like the internet, other days I hate the crazy stupid it contains. A comment posted at the article you linked:
Yeah, that. The U.S. treats people so much worse than tyrannical theocracies that oppress, murder and torture their own people. Fucking idiot.
The stupid is strong with that one. BTW, for the remainder of the evening [smiles] will replace LOL. My ribs hurt when I laugh right now.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:31:06pm |
re: #457 iceweasel
I'm with you on this. (I'm tired too) I hope to hell that doesn't happen--the use of live fire. If it does I think we have a moral duty to intervene! as you suggest
We've had the moral and legal authority to intervene in Iran Since Nov. 4, 1979.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:33:53pm |
re: #460 iceweasel
Hi Ice... Ice... Baby. I am cooking as we speak (type, or whatever). See ya' later.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:34:29pm |
re: #454 iceweasel
That fool has nothing but shit between his ears.
It is good that the reporter got promptly released without being tortured.
I guess the moron must have skimmed over the parts where the reporter was abducted for no reason, beaten and manhandled. Some folks just can't see past their particular obsessive hatred and recognized reality.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:36:16pm |
I'm tempted to copy and paste it here just so those asshats can read it and seethe. However, I will treat this new feature with the attitude that "What's said on a private thread will stay on a private thread".
For now, anyway.
I think NOT letting them see what we are talking about is even more head explodey. ;)
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:37:10pm |
re: #453 Pvt Bin Jammin
LA Metro trains are shut down in the downtown area. The 110 and 10 freeways also. SIGH. You can't fix stoopid!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:37:20pm |
re: #464 Slumbering Behemoth
That fool has nothing but shit between his ears.
I guess the moron must have skimmed over the parts where the reporter was abducted for no reason, beaten and manhandled. Some folks just can't see past their particular obsessive hatred and recognized reality.
Like Zombie says: "[The poster] is suffering from Tertiary-stage BDS, for which there is no cure."
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:38:35pm |
re: #466 Floral Giraffe
LA Metro trains are shut down in the downtown area. The 110 and 10 freeways also. SIGH. You can't fix stoopid!
LA CBS news chopper just said "they are looting another store."
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:39:22pm |
Scanner for LAPD
[Link: losangeles.ca.scanamerica.us...]
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:39:26pm |
re: #466 Floral Giraffe
LA Metro trains are shut down in the downtown area. The 110 and 10 freeways also. SIGH. You can't fix stoopid!
What kinda maroon riots when his team wins?
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:39:57pm |
re: #469 Gus 802
LA CBS news chopper just said "they are looting another store."
Looting?
Live ammo. It'll stop PDQ.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:40:25pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:40:32pm |
re: #466 Floral Giraffe
LA Metro trains are shut down in the downtown area. The 110 and 10 freeways also. SIGH. You can't fix stoopid!
Crazy! Check out the scanner link I just posted.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:40:54pm |
re: #471 jcm
The FANS are not the ones rioting. It's the opportunists. Any excuse to misbehave & they're all over it.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:41:08pm |
re: #431 Scion9
Did we come to the conclusion that the pint sized incumbent legitimately won the election?
The Hamas election was accepted as a 'legitimate' victory, despite the thuggery. We were also the ones calling for elections, so then to immediately not accept the result would have been more of a fumble than it already was.
In Iran it doesn't appear that they even counted the votes in the first place, and we also didn't pressure anyone into having these elections.
Well if y'all mean "me" by we, than yes "we" have come to the conclussion that the Irainian election was a fraud.
And you may be right about Hamas and no we didn't call for the Iranian elections, but does that mean that we have to recognize the outcome of those elections the way the EU did? Can we not get the UN to intervene here and call for a "do-over" under UN supervision?
I'm sorry Scion9, I don't pretend to have all of the answers, but all the information we have, from cell phone calls, photos, videos and BBC news videos, it certainly appears that an awful lot of folks are being beaten and killed for protesting this election. And a pretty tight blanket has been kept on foreign news media - to where the Beeb recently filed a complaint that Dinnerjacket's administration jammed their satellite uplink, in violation of a treaty that Iran signed. That really doesn't strike me as the reaction of a legitimately elected government.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:41:28pm |
re: #472 jcm
Looting?
Live ammo. It'll stop PDQ.
Another news outlet has an LAPD officer that said they're about to start arrests if they don't disperse.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:43:04pm |
re: #475 Floral Giraffe
The FANS are not the ones rioting. It's the opportunists. Any excuse to misbehave & they're all over it.
Should just cordon off the area, anyone inside gets 15 minutes to walk to the police line and give up.
Everyone else gets to pick up litter along Central Valley roads for the next year.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:43:26pm |
Stioll cathing up: Did the Lakers win the NBA chamionship and the locals are rioting?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:43:47pm |
re: BatGuano
Stioll cathing up: Did the Lakers win the NBA chamionship and the locals are rioting?
Yes, and yes.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:43:52pm |
re: Floral Giraffe
LA Metro trains are shut down in the downtown area. The 110 and 10 freeways also. SIGH. You can't fix stoopid!
Can you spay or neuter stupid?
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:44:07pm |
re: #477 Gus 802
Another news outlet has an LAPD officer that said they're about to start arrests if they don't disperse.
Start?
Should be baton on heads when the first window breaks, or the first trash can gets set on fire.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:44:08pm |
re: #477 Gus 802
Another news outlet has an LAPD officer that said they're about to start arrests if they don't disperse.
Start arrests?! Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot? Why haven't they been making arrests for an hour now?!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:44:52pm |
re: Dark_Falcon
Start arrests?! Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot? Why haven't they been making arrests for an hour now?!
They should have started making arrests 15 minutes after the troubles started.
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BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:45:03pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:45:11pm |
re: #481 Fenway_Nation
Can you spay or neuter stupid?
Sure. The neutering part is easy: Just lop the stupid guy's balls off.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:45:19pm |
re: #481 Fenway_Nation
Can you spay or neuter stupid?
Stupid should hurt.
Fill this sucker with pepper spray.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:45:34pm |
re: #441 jcm
I agree, but would suggest you take a look at Scion9's comment #431 and engage him PLEASE. It's waay to late (east coast time) for me and I gotta take mom to the doctor again early tomorrow morning. PLEASE engage Scion9.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:46:16pm |
re: #482 jcm
Start?
Should be baton on heads when the first window breaks, or the first trash can gets set on fire.
re: #483 Dark_Falcon
Start arrests?! Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot? Why haven't they been making arrests for an hour now?!
Don't know. I'm listening to the LAPD scanner now and one cop asked "they're starting to take down traffic signs are we going to do anything about them?" Follow up is that they're going to contain and arrest.
[Link: losangeles.ca.scanamerica.us...]
Plus LA is still a liberal city so they're probably trying to be soft on these punks.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:46:53pm |
re: #488 realwest
I agree, but would suggest you take a look at Scion9's comment #431 and engage him PLEASE. It's waay to late (east coast time) for me and I gotta take mom to the doctor again early tomorrow morning. PLEASE engage Scion9.
LOL!
Take it easy Real, things in Iran hit close to home.
And I hate the Mad Mullahs with a passion.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:47:07pm |
re: jcm
Stupid should hurt.
Fill this sucker with pepper spray.
[Video]
Stupid does hurt, but usually not the ones that are stupid. They inflict the stupid on pain in the ass innocent bystanders.
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Neutral President Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:47:40pm |
re: #489 Gus 802
Plus LA is still a liberal city so they're probably trying to be soft on these punks.
You can't judge them! It's their culture!
/moonbat
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:48:09pm |
re: #489 Gus 802
LAPD gets sued for everything too. They have to be careful, I think. The ACLU is probably out there watching.
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realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:48:21pm |
re: #462 jcm
We've had the moral and legal authority to intervene in Iran Since Nov. 4, 1979.
AMEN TO THAT ONE JCM!
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:48:28pm |
re: #489 Gus 802
That's awfully insensitive of you. It's not a riot, it's simply an alternative method of redistributing wealth //
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:48:32pm |
re: #493 Pvt Bin Jammin
LAPD gets sued for everything too. They have to be careful, I think. The ACLU is probably out there watching.
True.
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jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:48:45pm |
re: #489 Gus 802
Don't know. I'm listening to the LAPD scanner now and one cop asked "they're starting to take down traffic signs are we going to do anything about them?" Follow up is that they're going to contain and arrest.
[Link: losangeles.ca.scanamerica.us...]
Plus LA is still a liberal city so they're probably trying to be soft on these punks.
WTO '99 in Seattle, the the Mayor and Police chief had "a deal" with protest leaders, no violence. Fucking dipwads were caught by surprise, didn't have a plan for it.
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Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:49:04pm |
re: #495 MrPaulRevere
That's awfully insensitive of you. It's not a riot, it's simply an alternative method of redistributing wealth //
"Rioting is a cultural expression."
//
| 499 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:49:23pm |
re: Pvt Bin Jammin
LAPD gets sued for everything too. They have to be careful, I think. The ACLU is probably out there watching.
Watching? Hell, they are archiving all the news feeds for use in court later.
| 500 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:49:38pm |
re: #479 BatGuano
Stioll cathing up: Did the Lakers win the NBA chamionship and the locals are rioting?
I'M trying to figure that out also.
| 501 |
Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:50:06pm |
re: #497 jcm
WTO '99 in Seattle, the the Mayor and Police chief had "a deal" with protest leaders, no violence. Fucking dipwads were caught by surprise, didn't have a plan for it.
That was a disaster too.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:50:10pm |
re: #499 FurryOldGuyJeans
Watching? Hell, they are archiving all the news feeds for use in court later.
No doubt.
| 503 |
realwest Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:50:31pm |
Sorry folks but I'm outta here - way too fatigued now to add anything and have to get up waaay too early to get Mom to doctor later this morning.
Good night you all, and please, THIS ONE TIME, try to solve the World's problems without me!
Goodnight you all and I hope I get the chance to see you all down the road.
| 504 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:51:41pm |
re: #503 realwest
Night realwest. Get some good rest.
| 506 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:53:30pm |
re: #493 Pvt Bin Jammin
LAPD are also under several Federal Decrees for misbehavior. You bet'cha the ACLU are watching them, Feds too.
| 507 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:54:18pm |
This just shows how much of a sham even the opposition is in Iran:
Iran Opposition Seeks Fatwa Against Ahmadinejad
Mousavi Spokesman Says President's Re-Election Is 'Coup D'Etat'
By LARA SETRAKIAN
DUBAI, June 14, 2006
ABC News
A spokesman for Iranian presidential candidate Mir-Hossein Mousavi says his camp will keep pushing to change the results of Friday's election that gave incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad a landslide win.
"We are going to stay in the streets and ask the mullahs to give fatwas that Ahmedinejad is not our president. We are going to ask the Leader, through the will of the people, to change his mind," said Mostafa Makhmalbaf, who is speaking to the foreign press on Mousavi's behalf from his home in Paris.
The best someone can come up with in a political dispute is to have a religious fatwa declared?!? What a fucking crock!
| 508 |
jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:54:44pm |
re: #501 Gus 802
That was a disaster too.
Leadership was caught so flat cops were pulling 12-18 hour shift was no plans even for bathroom breaks, let alone food and water. They ran out of pepper spray in a couple of hours. Then the city rolls over and settles a protestor lawsuit for a million bucks.
| 509 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:55:41pm |
re: jcm
Leadership was caught so flat cops were pulling 12-18 hour shift was no plans even for bathroom breaks, let alone food and water. They ran out of pepper spray in a couple of hours. Then the city rolls over and settles a protestor lawsuit for a million bucks.
And a major Hollywood production makes the fucking rioters out to be the fucking good guys.
| 510 |
Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:56:28pm |
re: #508 jcm
Leadership was caught so flat cops were pulling 12-18 hour shift was no plans even for bathroom breaks, let alone food and water. They ran out of pepper spray in a couple of hours. Then the city rolls over and settles a protestor lawsuit for a million bucks.
A lawsuit even? What happened to the protestor? Sprained an ankle?
| 511 |
jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:56:29pm |
re: #507 FurryOldGuyJeans
This just shows how much of a sham even the opposition is in Iran:
Iran Opposition Seeks Fatwa Against Ahmadinejad
Mousavi Spokesman Says President's Re-Election Is 'Coup D'Etat'
By LARA SETRAKIAN
DUBAI, June 14, 2006
ABC NewsThe best someone can come up with in a political dispute is to have a religious fatwa declared?!? What a fucking crock!
Mousavi was picked by the Mullahs, however the protests in the streets are the real deal. They hope for real change and got shafted again.
| 512 |
Wendya Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:56:50pm |
re: #364 Macker
Wouldn't it be funny if the various sports leagues initiated the following rule: Riot after your team wins a championship, and they forfeit it to the team they beat!
And then they'd riot some more.
| 513 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:57:24pm |
re: jcm
Mousavi was picked by the Mullahs, however the protests in the streets are the real deal. They hope for real change and got shafted again.
I just hope the Mullahs have as much success as Gorbachev had with his Perestroika.
| 514 |
BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:57:25pm |
When my team wins, I hoist a glass and say, "well done"! The first sports riots I remember were the Chicago Bulls of 1990, or so.
| 515 |
jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:59:23pm |
re: #510 Gus 802
A lawsuit even? What happened to the protestor? Sprained an ankle?
False arrest, detention without hearing, etc... if you read their websites before hand the whole thing was planned out. This was pointed out to the mayor and chief, but those morons "had a deal."
They knew by flooding the jails and courts the 48 and 72 hour rules for hearings etc... was going out the window. The protestor compounded the problem by giving false names etc...
| 516 |
jcm Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:59:53pm |
re: #513 FurryOldGuyJeans
I just hope the Mullahs have as much success as Gorbachev had with his Perestroika.
I hope they're given a necktie party.
| 518 |
MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:00:51pm |
re: #493 Pvt Bin Jammin
We had a bizarre experience locally with a 'copwatch' group. They had a beef with how complaint forms were handed out out, as the custom was to talk to talk to a Lt. as to what the problem was before you got a form. They wanted a form any time reason at any time, no questions asked. When the activist was denied a form, he slammed his head on the counter so he could walk out of the station with a welt or something and his buddies could film it and claim brutality. Sadly for him the lobby camera caught the whole thing on tape and the group was made a laughingstock.
| 519 |
Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:00:51pm |
re: #515 jcm
False arrest, detention without hearing, etc... if you read their websites before hand the whole thing was planned out. This was pointed out to the mayor and chief, but those morons "had a deal."
They knew by flooding the jails and courts the 48 and 72 hour rules for hearings etc... was going out the window. The protestor compounded the problem by giving false names etc...
Cripes. Fraud and extortion. Another Mayor Moonbeam.
| 520 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:01:18pm |
re: #515 jcm
False arrest, detention without hearing, etc... if you read their websites before hand the whole thing was planned out. This was pointed out to the mayor and chief, but those morons "had a deal."
They knew by flooding the jails and courts the 48 and 72 hour rules for hearings etc... was going out the window. The protestor compounded the problem by giving false names etc...
Then the city should have fought it out in court. Give in to scum like that and they just take more next time. Kipling made that point more than 100 years ago.
| 521 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:02:13pm |
re: Gus 802
Cripes. Fraud and extortion. Another Mayor Moonbeam.
This is Seattle we are talking about, what did you expect? The home of Hippies, the Discovery Institute, and White Power militias.
| 522 |
BatGuano Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:03:10pm |
re: #514 BatGuano
Soccer hooligans a re a different story.
| 523 |
Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:03:45pm |
re: #521 FurryOldGuyJeans
This is Seattle we are talking about, what did you expect? The home of Hippies, the Discovery Institute, and White Power militias.
Yep, all bases are covered. I know that WTO protest set the tone for Seattle and got worse after the Iraq War started. Then there's the White Power whackos.
| 524 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:05:10pm |
re: Gus 802
Yep, all bases are covered. I know that WTO protest set the tone for Seattle and got worse after the Iraq War started. Then there's the White Power whackos.
The tone had been set long before the WTO riot. The riot just exposed the soft underbelly of Moonbattery.
| 525 |
MJ Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:06:16pm |
Antisemitic ex-President says:
"I have been in love with the Palestinian people for many years," he said Saturday, adding that this is a feeling shared by members of his family.
He's teaching his grandchild to hate Jews too:
"I have two great-grandsons that are rapidly learning about the people here and the anguish and suffering and deprivation of human rights that you have experienced ever since 1948," he said.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
| 526 |
Wendya Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:08:31pm |
re: #429 realwest
Do you really think that Obama does not want to undercut Ahmadinejad, because he thinks he can cut a deal with him. ?
Yes.
| 527 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:08:34pm |
re: MJ
Stockholm Syndrome from getting fucked by the Iranians in 1979. Thrice damned the man is.
| 528 |
MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:08:42pm |
re: #518 MrPaulRevere
'They wanted a form at any time, for any reason, no questions asked'... Big time PIMF
| 529 |
Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:09:35pm |
re: Wendya
I hope you're wrong, but that wouldn't really be out of charchter from what we know about him so dar....
| 530 |
Wendya Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:10:27pm |
re: #529 Fenway_Nation
I hope you're wrong, but that wouldn't really be out of charchter from what we know about him so dar....
He is concerned about his legacy and not pissing off totalitarian dictators.
| 531 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:10:34pm |
re: #519 Gus 802
Cripes. Fraud and extortion. Another Mayor Moonbeam.
That's not fair to Jerry Brown. He did try to build up the Oakland PD and generally supported them. The current troubles in that city are the results of his successor, Rom Dellums. Brown has lots of problems, but he does understand the need for effective law enforcement.
| 532 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:10:58pm |
re: Fenway_Nation
I hope you're wrong, but that wouldn't really be out of charchter from what we know about him so dar....
The man has NO fucking character, the fucking anti-Semite.
| 533 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:11:07pm |
No real surprise here, but horrible all the same. Andrew Sullivan reports:
A Message From Mousavi
Via my contacts at the Farsi-speaking BBC, a telephone plea:
I AM UNDER EXTREME PRESSURE TO ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE SHAM ELECTION. THEY HAVE CUT ME OFF FROM ANY COMMUNICATION WITH PEOPLE AND AM UNDER SURVEILLANCE. I ASK THE PEOPLE TO STAY IN THE STREETS BUT AVOID VIOLENCE
| 535 |
Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:11:46pm |
re: #531 Dark_Falcon
That's not fair to Jerry Brown. He did try to build up the Oakland PD and generally supported them. The current troubles in that city are the results of his successor, Rom Dellums. Brown has lots of problems, but he does understand the need for effective law enforcement.
I know. Jerry Brown actually wasn't as bad as expected. I just use the title Mayor Moonbeam for other moonbat mayors -- generically.
| 538 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:13:16pm |
| 539 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:13:18pm |
re: Gus 802
I know. Jerry Brown actually wasn't as bad as expected. I just use the title Mayor Moonbeam for other moonbat mayors -- generically.
Fits Greg Nickels to a T.
| 540 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:14:05pm |
re: #525 MJ
Antisemitic ex-President says:
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Why couldn't they have taken Carter out to the garden and introduced him to an old friend:
| 541 |
Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:14:06pm |
Officer down but it's a Code 4.
Any idea what Code 4 is?
| 542 |
Gus Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:14:25pm |
| 543 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:14:40pm |
re: #536 Gus 802
I think he's okay. It sounded like a motocycle officer who took a fall or something. They said he was okay.
| 544 |
Racer X Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:15:01pm |
Listening to the L.A. police scanner - it beats the Rooster.
| 545 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:15:07pm |
re: Gus 802
Officer down but it's a Code 4.
Any idea what Code 4 is?
I believe something VERY serious, lights and siren.
| 547 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:15:37pm |
| 549 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:16:10pm |
415 groups means a group of people fighting.
| 551 |
gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:16:58pm |
re: #549 Pvt Bin Jammin
415 groups means a group of people fighting.
How appropriate – it's also the original San Francisco Bay Area zip code.
| 552 |
Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:17:22pm |
re: Dark_Falcon
Google Goodsearch 'Chauncey Bailey Project' or 'Your Black Muslim Bakery' sometime.
/don't forget to put in the name of your charity before searching, tho'
| 553 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:17:45pm |
re: #547 FurryOldGuyJeans
They're all a little different but some similarities. Our daughter was LAPD & I used to help her learn the codes.
| 554 |
MrPaulRevere Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:17:52pm |
re: #531 Dark_Falcon
Ron Dellums has been screwing things up for a LONG time, I remember reading about him in the 70's. He was a big supporter of Huey Newton and the Black Panthers. I'm sure Zombie could tell some stories.
| 555 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:18:18pm |
It's just SO RIDICULOUS! What other major city, has a sports team win a national title, and RIOTS?
| 556 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:19:10pm |
re: #551 gmsc
How appropriate – it's also the original San Francisco Bay Area zip code.
LOL
I remember that. Lived in the SF Bay area when I was 20 and 21.
| 557 |
Fenway_Nation Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:19:20pm |
re: Floral Giraffe
Detroit, Chicago........Hell, I'm surprised Boston is still standing after the 2004 World Series.
| 558 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:19:23pm |
re: #551 gmsc
Hi gmsc! You're early tonight! Hope you are doing well?
| 559 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:19:43pm |
Police Scanner 1-37 Codes...
Code 2 Urgent - no light or siren
Code 3 Use lights and siren
Code 4 No further assistance needed
Code 5 Stakeout
Code 6 Stay out of area
Code 7 Meal break
Code 8 Restroom break
Code 9 Summer uniform
Code 10 SWAT pre-call up
Code 11 SWAT Call up
Code 37 Subject/Property wanted
| 560 |
Racer X Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:19:50pm |
re: #555 Floral Giraffe
It's just SO RIDICULOUS! What other major city, has a sports team win a national title, and RIOTS?
I've seen this before in many other cities.
Sad.
There are stupid drunk people everywhere.
| 561 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:20:21pm |
re: Racer X
I've seen this before in many other cities.
Sad.
There are stupid drunk people everywhere.
Stupid AND drunk, what a dangerous combination.
| 562 |
Sharmuta Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:20:22pm |
re: #555 Floral Giraffe
It's just SO RIDICULOUS! What other major city, has a sports team win a national title, and RIOTS?
They all do this- it's like the thing to do.
| 563 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:20:31pm |
re: #555 Floral Giraffe
It's just SO RIDICULOUS! What other major city, has a sports team win a national title, and RIOTS?
Well, maybe Detroit. LOL I'm embarrassed since I live close to L.A.
| 564 |
JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:20:52pm |
re: #533 iceweasel
No real surprise here, but horrible all the same. Andrew Sullivan reports:
A Message From Mousavi
IW ... is this second-hand info? ... kinda like Shug's post last night (because I would like to know) ... I want to know ... really .. I want to know ...
| 565 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:20:58pm |
re: #544 Racer X
Listening to the L.A. police scanner - it beats the Rooster.
I miss night of listening & looking at nothing, only to hear the rooster!
That was theatre!
| 566 |
solomonpanting Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:22:30pm |
Leon Panetta is determined to show that another right wing extremist falls into the domestic terrorist catagory:
CIA director Leon Panetta says it's almost as if former vice president Dick Cheney would like to see another attack on the United States to prove he is right in criticizing President Barack Obama for abandoning the "harsh interrogation" of terrorism suspects.
| 567 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:22:50pm |
re: Floral Giraffe
I miss night of listening & looking at nothing, only to hear the rooster!
That was theatre!
Think how the Rooster felt! ;)
| 568 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:23:15pm |
re: #564 JacksonTn
IW ... is this second-hand info? ... kinda like Shug's post last night (because I would like to know) ... I want to know ... really .. I want to know ...
I only know what's posted...Sully says it's from his Farsi-speaking contacts at BBC news. I don't like Sullivan either, but so far his coverage on Iran has all been true and he's been breaking lots of news.
As soon as I find anyone else confirming it or an independent source I'll let you know.
| 569 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:23:31pm |
re: #565 Floral Giraffe
I miss night of listening & looking at nothing, only to hear the rooster!
That was theatre!
I kinda miss that too, LOL. They sure didn't turn that camera much, did they? I'd stay up a little too late waiting to see something. It was right around that time that someone down the street from our house got a rooster....woke me up every time.
| 570 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:24:53pm |
re: #564 JacksonTn
IW ... is this second-hand info? ... kinda like Shug's post last night (because I would like to know) ... I want to know ... really .. I want to know ...
We'll have to wait till morning. Tomorrow may tell us just how far things will go.
| 571 |
gmsc Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:26:01pm |
re: #556 Pvt Bin Jammin
LOL
I remember that. Lived in the SF Bay area when I was 20 and 21.
The East Bay had the most changes. First, they were part of 415. Then, they changed to 510. Currently, they're 925. Notice a pattern?
415 + 510 = 925
re: #558 Floral Giraffe
Hi gmsc! You're early tonight! Hope you are doing well?
Yep - the store where I work closes earlier on Sunday. Other than a dull day, 1 customer at the beginning of my shift, and 1 customer at the end, I'm doing fine.
| 572 |
NY Nana Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:26:32pm |
re: #569 Pvt Bin Jammin
Boo! Fancy meeting you here!
I seriously have to go to sleep...those dang marks from the keyboard on my face really look awful in the AM!
G'nite, all! Sweet dreams.
| 573 |
solomonpanting Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:26:56pm |
re: #555 Floral Giraffe
It's just SO RIDICULOUS! What other major city, has a sports team win a national title, and RIOTS?
Chicago, New York, Detroit it's all on the same street
Your typical city involved in a typical daydream
Hang it up and see what tomorrow brings
| 574 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:27:16pm |
re: Dark_Falcon
We'll have to wait till morning. Tomorrow may tell us just how far things will go.
I do believe it is morning already in Tehran.
| 575 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:28:57pm |
re: #571 gmsc
Those phone company folks must be math geeks.
| 576 |
JacksonTn Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:30:10pm |
re: #570 Dark_Falcon
We'll have to wait till morning. Tomor row may tell us just how far things will go.
DF ... yeah you right ... tomorrow always tells something .... doesn't it ... but then .... I alway question the messenger ...
| 577 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:30:38pm |
re: #572 NY Nana
'Nite {Nana}, sweet dreams to you too. I am going to the new thread for a few but probably won't last long. Could not sleep last night so know I will fade fast tonight.
| 578 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:33:05pm |
OK, I know this is offtopic but it's the weirdest story-- maybe it's already been talked about here?
Fidel Castro's son tricked in Internet love sting
A rather embarrassing breach in Cuba’s security system: One of Fidel Castro’s sons Antonio Castro Soto del Valle had an eight-month affair with “Claudia”—a “Colombian woman” who turned out to be a male prankster in Miami. "Guess where I am and I will make love to you without stopping," Soto del Valle wrote at one point. “Claudia” turned out to be “Luis Domínguez, a Cuban-born Miamian who unveiled the sting on Americateve TV Channel 41 in Miami, saying it was designed to 'shatter the myth of an impenetrable' security system.” According to the Miami Herald, “ 'Claudia's' cyber-boyfriend never revealed any state secrets and made no mention of Fidel during their more than 20 Internet chats. But he sent her what he said were his phone number and home address in Havana, wrote that he had no bodyguards and gave advance notice of a trip to Mexico—all breaches of the tight secrecy that has always surrounded Fidel Castro's family life.”
Apparently the guy blogs (of course) and has posted the chat transcripts and emails. Haven't seen that yet myself!
[Link: www.miamiherald.com...]
| 579 |
neocon hippie Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:33:34pm |
re: #571 gmsc
The change to 925 happened only for the outer East Bay, on the east side of the hills. The inner East Bay -- Oakland, Berkeley, Hayward, Fremont, etc -- remains 510.
| 580 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:33:48pm |
re: #574 FurryOldGuyJeans
I do believe it is morning already in Tehran.
And by noon their time we'll know a lot more. Hope for change, and this time good change not Obama change. Though if he actually help the demonstrators out, I'll give him a round of "Yes we can!" to say thank you.
| 581 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:35:28pm |
re: Dark_Falcon
And by noon their time we'll know a lot more. Hope for change, and this time good change not Obama change. Though if he actually help the demonstrators out, I'll give him a round of "Yes we can!" to say thank you.
The man has done some amazingly smart things, as far as someone not Liberal is concerned, in the past, I wouldn't be a bit displeased to see him make it a streak.
| 582 |
RexMundi Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:37:10pm |
This looks like it could be a pretty good movie (even if you don't believe in evolution). I mean, Paul Bettany and Jennifer Connelly, real life husband and wife, both great actors with serious chops.
| 583 |
BARACK THE VOTE Sun, Jun 14, 2009 11:45:00pm |
re: #580 Dark_Falcon
And by noon their time we'll know a lot more. Hope for change, and this time good change not Obama change. Though if he actually help the demonstrators out, I'll give him a round of "Yes we can!" to say thank you.
Almost noon already there; it's 11.15 AM
[Link: 24timezones.com...]
| 584 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 15, 2009 12:04:20am |
re: #583 iceweasel
Almost noon already there; it's 11.15 AM
[Link: 24timezones.com...]
Thank you for that.
| 585 |
Tigger2005 Mon, Jun 15, 2009 3:07:17am |
Will this movie contain plenty of CGI? 'Cause I wanna see the monkeys morphing into whales that convinced Darwin evolution was true.
/Creationist
| 586 |
Tigger2005 Mon, Jun 15, 2009 3:08:17am |
re: #582 RexMundi
This looks like it could be a pretty good movie (even if you don't believe in evolution). I mean, Paul Bettany and Jennifer Connelly, real life husband and wife, both great actors with serious chops.
Jenny is a hottie ... even after all these years.
| 587 |
Throbert McGee Mon, Jun 15, 2009 3:52:25am |
Okay, I know this place isn't Ace of Spades, but almost 600 comments on just the public thread and not a single "Annie's Box" joke?
The amount of restraint and good taste around here is appalling...
| 588 |
Zimriel Mon, Jun 15, 2009 8:34:50am |
re: #578 iceweasel
OK, I know this is offtopic but it's the weirdest story-- maybe it's already been talked about here?
Fidel Castro's son tricked in Internet love sting
pwnage!
| 589 |
tomservo Mon, Jun 15, 2009 8:51:07am |
This looks pretty good! Although, I still don't understand why faith in God and the theory of evolution have to be mutually exclusive in a lot of people's minds!
| 590 |
anova Tue, Jun 16, 2009 7:53:02am |
re: #56 Sharmuta
Watching the trailer a second time- I really like the little clip of Darwin with the ape touching hands. What elegant symbolism.
I agree wholeheartedly with you Sharmuta.
How long do we have to wait for the Creationists/ID fanatics to start a publicity campaign to boycott this movie?
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Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
