Palin and Letterman Bury the Hatchet

I know you’re as happy as I am to learn that Sarah Palin has accepted David Letterman’s apology. Just don’t let it happen again, Dave.

Sarah Palin has accepted comedian David Letterman’s apology made during Monday night’s broadcast of “The Late Show” for crude jokes made about her and her teen daughters last week.

In a statement to foxnews.com early Tuesday, the Alaska governor said, “Of course it’s accepted on behalf of young women, like my daughters, who hope men who ‘joke’ about public displays of sexual exploitation of girls will soon evolve.”

“Letterman certainly has the right to ‘joke’ about whatever he wants to, and thankfully we have the right to express our reaction,” Palin said. “This is all thanks to our U.S. Military women and men putting their lives on the line for us to secure America’s Right to Free Speech - in this case, may that right be used to promote equality and respect.”

The apology came after David Letterman took his biggest step to put the furor surrounding his jokes about Gov. Sarah Palin’s daughters behind him.

“I would like to apologize, especially to the two daughters involved, Bristol and Willow, and also to the governor and her family and everybody else who was outraged by the joke. I’m sorry about it and I’ll try to do better in the future,” Letterman told the studio audience.

He went on to explain how he had come to the realization that last week’s monologue, in which he joked about one of Governor Palin’s teenage daughters being “knocked up” by New York Yankee Alex Rodriguez, could be interpreted as being in poor taste.

“I thought I was telling it about the older daughter being at Yankee Stadium. And it was kind of a coarse joke. There’s no getting around it, but I never thought it was anybody other than the older daughter, and before the show, I checked to make sure in fact that she is of legal age, 18. Yeah. But the joke really, in and of itself, can’t be defended.”

He said he didn’t know that Palin’s 14-year-old daughter was attending the game with her.

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503 comments

1 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:36:38pm

Palin and Letterman Bury the Hatchet

/ I thought comments advocating violence would be deleted?

2 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:37:02pm

Maybe now the nation can move on from this pressing matter.

3 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:37:24pm

Good enough for her, good enough for me.

4 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:37:25pm

There are still some people wish she had buried the hatchet into Mr. Letterman.

Time to relax, folks, the offended party is avenged.

5 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:37:27pm

OK Fine but to bad it took him a week to apologize

6 MJ  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:37:33pm

What useless story is the MSM gonna talk about now?

7 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:37:33pm

I’m half surprised that a hatchet didn’t end up in Letterman’s skull… but Palin is a class act, so good on her.

8 acwgusa  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:37:51pm

re: #2 Charles

Maybe now the nation can move on from this pressing matter.

Well, yes, we need to watch Heidi and Spencer get tortured on NBC.

9 Cheesehead  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:38:16pm

Cant we all just get along?! Oh wait, we are now. Whew!

10 rwdflynavy  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:38:29pm

re: #6 MJ

What useless story is the MSM gonna talk about now?

How bout an update on the Ex-Miss California!

11 debutaunt  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:38:34pm

He used to be funny.

12 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:38:38pm

re: #6 MJ

What useless story is the MSM gonna talk about now?

I guess back to kate and what’s his name

13 acwgusa  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:38:50pm

re: #11 debutaunt

He used to be funny.

Used? Try Never.

14 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:38:58pm

Hatchet?
Duct tap over that assholes mouth would have been fine!
But a Hatchet? Messy!
/

15 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:39:06pm

re: #10 rwdflynavy

How bout an update on the Ex-Miss California!

Don’t you mean the NEW Miss California?

I’m getting confused by all the bickering going on.

16 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:39:12pm

So question on pissing contests, are we basing them on distance, accuracy, technique or volume?

17 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:39:16pm

I, for one, will continue my protest of Letterman by not watching him. Oh, wait, I was doing that well before his tasteless “joke” about Palin’s daughter.

BTW, is it just me, or is Dave still bitter about losing out to Jay Leno?

18 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:39:21pm

re: #12 Nevergiveup

I guess back to kate and what’s his name

Kate and whats his name make 8 …7?

19 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:39:25pm

re: #11 debutaunt

He used to be funny.

His writers used to be funny… him, not so much.

20 MJ  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:39:31pm

re: #8 acwgusa

Well, yes, we need to watch Heidi and Spencer get tortured on NBC.

Who is Heidi and Spencer? Oh wait, don’t tell me. I don’t really want to know.

21 Truck Monkey  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:39:32pm

Yawn.

22 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:39:33pm

re: #11 debutaunt

He used to be funny.

You may have found him funny, I never did. Ever.

23 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:05pm

re: #2 Charles

Maybe now the nation can move on from this pressing matter.

One can only hope. Does that mean this is an open thread?

24 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:10pm

re: #18 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Kate and whats his name make 8 …7?

Eight kids plus the two adults.

25 Cheesehead  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:20pm

re: #6 MJ

What useless story is the MSM gonna talk about now?

Global warming? No wait….done that…….

26 Pickles  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:23pm

re: #2 Charles

Maybe now the nation can move on from this pressing matter.

No kidding. What a waste of time.

27 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:26pm

re: wrenchwench

One can only hope. Does that mean this is an open thread?

Sure. Open thread!

28 Macker  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:31pm

I would rather watch Jay Leno than David Letterman.

29 WhiteRasta  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:31pm

Who is David Letterman?

30 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:32pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

None of the above!
Thy are graded on a curve!

31 acwgusa  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:34pm

re: #24 Honorary Yooper

Eight kids plus the two adults.

Soon to be 10, with the divorce lawyers.

32 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:47pm

re: #27 Charles

Sure. Open thread!

YAY!

33 debutaunt  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:47pm

re: #13 acwgusa

Used? Try Never.

Back in the 90’s he was funny. His hatred of Bush has turned him into his real self and it’s ugly.

34 Macker  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:48pm

re: #24 Honorary Yooper

Eight is Enough.

35 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:50pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So question on pissing contests, are we basing them on distance, accuracy, technique or volume?

Distance and accuracy?

36 rwdflynavy  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:55pm

Never been a fan of Letterman. Of course, my bedtime is too early to catch him if I wanted to.

37 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:40:58pm

re: #2 Charles

Maybe now the nation can move on from this pressing matter.

Wanna bet we get some idiot complains lgf “never covers the important news, like what is happening in Iran”?

38 MJ  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:41:02pm

re: #12 Nevergiveup

I guess back to kate and what’s his name

Yeah. I guess Octomon ran it’s course.

39 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:41:11pm

re: #2 Charles

Maybe now the nation can move on from this pressing matter.

after the book, and movie

40 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:41:24pm

re: #27 Charles

Sure. Open thread!

I pine for a private open thread. ;)

41 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:41:28pm

re: #24 Honorary Yooper

Eight kids plus the two adults.

Who are the 2 adults?

42 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:41:28pm

re: #27 Charles

Wooo Hooo!
Boobs………………

43 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:41:35pm

The LGF Spy now has a navigation panel, by the way — and it’s automatically updated when a new article is posted.

44 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:41:45pm

re: #29 WhiteRasta

Who is David Letterman?

A man who thinks he is funny, but lost out on The Tonight Show job to a better man, Jay Leno, and became very bitter about it.

45 J.D.  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:42:11pm

Damn Dave!
The right thing!

46 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:42:22pm
Palin and Letterman Bury the Hatchet

Isn’t that the type of line that got him in trouble in the first place?

47 jorline  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:42:24pm

They’re burying Molly?

48 Truck Monkey  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:42:30pm

re: #24 Honorary Yooper

Eight kids plus the two adults.

I would hardly call those two adults. I feel sorry for the kids. Had the unfortunate experience to get to see them on American Chopper last night.

49 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:42:36pm

re: #33 debutaunt

Back in the 90’s he was funny. His hatred of Bush has turned him into his real self and it’s ugly.

He was ugly before that. Remember how pissed Letterman was when he lost out to Leno?

50 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:42:47pm

re: #31 acwgusa

Soon to be 10, with the divorce lawyers.

My wife’s college roommate live a mile or so from these knuckleheads. According to her, everything you hear about Kate is absolutely true. She’s an angry spoiled beyotch.

Hey, I bet she’ll get along great with Michelle Obama!

51 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:42:47pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So question on pissing contests, are we basing them on distance, accuracy, technique or volume?

I can piss to the tune of ‘Old Kentucky Home” in my antique Standard

52 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:43:13pm

re: #43 Charles

The LGF Spy now has a navigation panel, by the way — and it’s automatically updated when a new article is posted.

Is that the thread spy or the master spy? Or both?

QUIT spoiling us, Charles! ;)

53 Wendya  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:43:18pm

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

BTW, is it just me, or is Dave still bitter about losing out to Jay Leno?

The bitter part is nothing new, it was just less evident when he had better writers.

54 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:43:32pm

re: #49 Honorary Yooper

What happened? I don’t pay attention to those shows. What did letterman lose?

55 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:43:39pm

re: #43 Charles

Does the new spy feature also have the upding/downding/favorites tabs yet?

56 jill e  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:43:39pm

I want to know what Alex Rodriguez has to say. Doesn’t HE get an apology, too?

57 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:43:41pm

re: #51 albusteve

I can piss to the tune of ‘Old Kentucky Home” in my antique Standard

Oooooh… I can sing the tune to “Gilligan’s Island” to the tune of “Amazing Grace”… and vice-versa!

58 jorline  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:43:42pm

re: #46 Ben Hur

Isn’t that the type of line that got him in trouble in the first place?

No…it was a rod.

59 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:44:12pm

re: #43 Charles

The LGF Spy now has a navigation panel, by the way — and it’s automatically updated when a new article is posted.

Now all I need is a heads up display so I can fix bikes and read LGF at the same time.

60 Racer X  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:44:19pm

Don Imus had no comment.

61 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:44:23pm

I wonder if his lib writers from Chappaqua wrote the apology.

62 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:44:28pm

PalinPrejean 2012 — the fox news watcher’s dream ticket

63 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:44:34pm

re: #57 MrSilverDragon

Oooooh… I can sing the tune lyrics to “Gilligan’s Island” to the tune of “Amazing Grace”… and vice-versa!

I’m typing to fast again. :/

64 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:45:08pm

re: #54 Radicchio ad Absurdum

What happened? I don’t pay attention to those shows. What did letterman lose?

OK, back when Johnny Carson was retiring from The Tonight Show, there were two candidates for the job, David Letterman and Jay Leno. NBC went with Jay Leno. Letterman was pissed and took his show to CBS to compete against Leno.

65 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:45:09pm

re: #56 jill e

I want to know what Alex Rodriguez has to say. Doesn’t HE get an apology, too?

When he starts hitting

66 J.D.  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:45:13pm

re: #51 albusteve

I can piss to the tune of ‘Old Kentucky Home” in my antique Standard

But do you know the words?

67 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:45:41pm

re: Fenway_Nation

Does the new spy feature also have the upding/downding/favorites tabs yet?

No, but if you click the lizard’s username the comment opens in its own window, with all those tools.

68 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:45:47pm

re: #64 Honorary Yooper

OK, back when Johnny Carson was retiring from The Tonight Show, there were two candidates for the job, David Letterman and Jay Leno. NBC went with Jay Leno. Letterman was pissed and took his show to CBS to compete against Leno.

Thanks.

69 [deleted]  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:46:05pm
70 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:46:07pm

re: #66 J.D.

But do you know the words?

today the pits, tomorrow the wrinkles….weedhoppa

71 WhiteRasta  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:46:13pm

re: #44 Honorary Yooper

Oh, that long streak of misery?

72 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:46:21pm
73 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:46:33pm

Gracious of Palin it was.
However, the fervor ball is still rolling.

Not everyone’s buying David Letterman’s apology to Sarah Palin about his ‘bad joke’ made at the expense of her daughter — and calls for a boycott are growing.

Despite Letterman’s Apology, Protesters Call for Sponsor Boycott
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

74 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:46:40pm

re: #67 Charles

Is it too soon to refer to that as ‘the old fashioned way’?

75 Wendya  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:46:40pm

re: #12 Nevergiveup

I guess back to kate and what’s his name

I don’t watch television so I had no clue who they were until I saw them plastered on the front of every magazine in the checkout stand at the supermarket. Curiosity overrode common sense and I googled them.

God, am I glad I don’t watch TV.

76 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:46:59pm

OT:

Started trying to remember my old 78’s and get the tunes from itunes. Just remembered Billy Squire: Lonely is the night. My I am getting old.

77 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:46:59pm

re: #67 Charles

No, but if you click the lizard’s username the comment opens in its own window, with all those tools.

More than equitable trade-off for the spy features. Thanks for all your hard work, Charles.

78 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:47:34pm

re: #72 scottishbuzzsaw

A thing of beauty for an open thread.

Wow!

79 J.D.  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:47:47pm

re: #70 albusteve

today the pits, tomorrow the wrinkles….weedhoppa

Correct!

80 Bloodnok  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:47:50pm
81 debutaunt  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:48:12pm

re: #73 notutopia

Gracious of Palin it was.
However, the fervor ball is still rolling.

Not everyone’s buying David Letterman’s apology to Sarah Palin about his ‘bad joke’ made at the expense of her daughter — and calls for a boycott are growing.

Despite Letterman’s Apology, Protesters Call for Sponsor Boycott
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]



I started my boycott when he kept telling the same unfunny Bush joke endlessly. That was quite a few years ago.

82 J.D.  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:48:33pm

re: #72 scottishbuzzsaw

A thing of beauty for an open thread.

That is beautiful!

83 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:48:38pm

bbiab—need chocolate.

Hey, maybe a dispenser can be installed?

84 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:48:44pm

Man spends night locked in Mass. bar’s bathroom
Jun. 16, 2009 10:36 AM
Associated Press

SALEM, Mass. - A customer at a Salem, Mass., bar spent the night trapped in a bathroom but told police in the morning he was “comfortable” and even offered to pay his tab.

85 songbird  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:49:00pm

re: #72 scottishbuzzsaw

A thing of beauty for an open thread.

Just what my soul needed! Thanks!

86 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:49:26pm
“Of course it’s accepted on behalf of young women, like my daughters, who hope men who ‘joke’ about public displays of sexual exploitation of girls will soon evolve.”

Brilliant. Letterman should hire her writer.

87 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:49:37pm

re: #72 scottishbuzzsaw

A thing of beauty for an open thread.

Looks a lot like the meadows around Mount Rainier.

88 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:50:12pm
“I thought I was telling it about the older daughter being at Yankee Stadium….”

I guess that means ‘jokes’ regarding Letterman’s, or, for that matter, anyon’e daughter, mother, sister or wife are fine and dandy as long as they’re eighteen or older. Weigh kuel!

89 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:51:02pm

Pa. windfall: Cop finds $100 bills blowing in wind
Jun. 16, 2009 10:29 AM
Associated Press

HARRISBURG, Pa. - A New Jersey man was left wondering where his $3,000 cash had gone after a job in Pennsylvania. Turns out, the answer was blowin’ in the wind.

A Harrisburg-area police officer gearing up to catch speeders early Saturday spotted several $100 bills fluttering in the breeze along the road. Camp Hill police Officer Lane Pryor then found a folder containing the rest of the cash and contact information for the man who lost it.

90 jill e  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:51:34pm

I once got tickets to Letterman (1990) and a friend and I drove cross country, 1100 miles in 18 hours (we got the tickets in the mail just 2 weeks before the show date). I think Mike Wallace and Phil Hartman were guests. Letterman came out to talk to the crowd before the show and he was really quite charming.

Amazing what 20 years can do in making someone a crotchety old guy…

91 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:51:43pm

thisis a thing of beauty….

Image: 1969+Ford+Mustang+boss+429.jpg

92 Last Mohican  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:52:08pm

Hey, since Charles officially declared this an open thread, can I ask for some advice?

I’ve been doing some fairly extensive statistical analysis of the Chrysler dealership closings, trying to establish once and for all whether or not there really was any political bias. I’m expecting that I’ll be putting the whole matter to bed, but I won’t know my final results for a few days.

Either way, I suspect that my presentation of my results will be longer than Charles would really like to see plastered all over a comments section. Plus I’d like for people to be able to download my data. And it would be nice to have a way for statistics experts to comment about my methodology, without boring everyone else to tears.

So I’m thinking of starting a new blog, just to present these results. I have absolutely no interest in running a blog, and I’ll abandon the thing once this has all blown over. But in the meantime… what should I do? Should I just go to blogspot.com and do it? Will I need to pay any money? Can I do it anonymously? Can I do the whole thing so a proxy server, so that blogspot can’t start collecting information about my IP address and forwarding it to the Black Helicopter Corps?

93 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:52:31pm

re: #91 albusteve

thisis a thing of beauty….

[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com…]

ROTFLOL!

94 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:52:52pm

Ohioans ticketed for parking in own driveways
Jun. 16, 2009 10:44 AM
Associated Press

TOLEDO, Ohio - Residents of Toledo, Ohio, are complaining that they received $25 tickets for parking their vehicles in their own driveways.

Mayor Carty Finkbeiner (FINK’-by-ner) says he stands by the citations handed out last week by the Division of Streets, Bridges and Harbor. He says the tickets were issued under a city law against parking on unpaved surfaces, including gravel driveways.

95 mfarmer1  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:53:02pm

Without Carrie Prejean and Sarah Palin in the news, what in the world will reporters do now?

96 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:53:24pm

Note to comedians:

Don’t make jokes about people who kill and field dress moose.

//

97 Kragar (Antichrist )  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:53:34pm

re: #95 mfarmer1

Without Carrie Prejean and Sarah Palin in the news, what in the world will reporters do now?

Slobber over Obama?

98 Truck Monkey  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:54:01pm

re: #72 scottishbuzzsaw

A thing of beauty for an open thread.

Puny Purple Pines.
Cool.

99 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:54:07pm

re: #95 mfarmer1

Without Carrie Prejean and Sarah Palin in the news, what in the world will reporters do now?

They still have the Messiah to fellate.

100 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:54:39pm

naked, raw, sexual POWER!
I dare you….


Image: 1966+Shelby+Cobra+427+S:C.jpg

101 Racer X  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:54:52pm

re: #91 albusteve

thisis a thing of beauty….

[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com…]

If you like that, you’re gonna love this. Or this.

102 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:55:10pm

re: #81 debutaunt

Fox is calling it the
“TOO Late”
Night Show with David Letterman

I wish they’d turn up the heat and give a whole lot more attention to the media bias that ABC is getting regarding the exclusive coverage and control of Obama’s Healthcare Plan Coverage.

103 Last Mohican  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:55:13pm

re: #81 debutaunt

I started my boycott when he kept telling the same unfunny Bush joke endlessly. That was quite a few years ago.

You mean the “great moments in presidential speeches” bit? Or whatever it was called?

Yeah, I’ve been known to laugh at Bush’s poor speaking skills myself, but I thought that bit got old, and then it got just plain mean.

I still think Letterman’s the master of the genre, although I admit I haven’t watched him for a few years. But I never did like it when he got mean.

104 Eowyn2  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:55:22pm

re: #90 jill e

I once got tickets to Letterman (1990) and a friend and I drove cross country, 1100 miles in 18 hours (we got the tickets in the mail just 2 weeks before the show date). I think Mike Wallace and Phil Hartman were guests. Letterman came out to talk to the crowd before the show and he was really quite charming.

Amazing what 20 years can do in making someone a crotchety old guy…

he has a summer home not too far from here and the locals seem to think he is okay.
I would have liked to see Hartman. RIP

105 jorline  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:55:34pm

re: #100 albusteve

naked, raw, sexual POWER!
I dare you….

[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com…]

schwingggggggggggg

106 jill e  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:55:34pm
107 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:55:37pm

re: #101 Racer X

If you like that, you’re gonna love this. Or this.

Jeez!

How did she get all that….in there?

108 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:55:39pm

re: #101 Racer X

If you like that, you’re gonna love this. Or this.

not founds…bummer

109 Last Mohican  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:55:56pm

re: #101 Racer X

If you like that, you’re gonna love this. Or this.

Not so much. You sure you got those links right?

110 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:56:06pm

re: #102 notutopia

Fox is calling it the
“TOO Late”
Night Show with David Letterman

I wish they’d turn up the heat and give a whole lot more attention to the media bias that ABC is getting regarding the exclusive coverage and control of Obama’s Healthcare Plan Coverage.

ABC is going to host the news FROM the White House.

No bias there. /////////////

111 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:56:12pm

re: #94 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ohioans ticketed for parking in own driveways
Jun. 16, 2009 10:44 AM
Associated Press

You are going to see all stops pulled from city, state and federal government agencies in their efforts to raise more money in any fashion and under any pretense.

112 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:56:18pm

re: #95 mfarmer1

Without Carrie Prejean and Sarah Palin in the news, what in the world will reporters do now?

I just heard some actress stabbed her boyfriend is running from police, a Reese something or other.

113 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:56:20pm

re: #92 Last Mohican

Blogspot is free and anonymous, and if you’re really worried about the Google Helicopters watching you and your IP, you can always do it from a net cafe or a Kinko’s or someplace like that.

114 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:56:40pm

re: #102 notutopia

Fox is calling it the
“TOO Late”
Night Show with David Letterman

I wish they’d turn up the heat and give a whole lot more attention to the media bias that ABC is getting regarding the exclusive coverage and control of Obama’s Healthcare Plan Coverage.

Huh?

115 songbird  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:56:48pm

re: #91 albusteve

thisis a thing of beauty….

[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com…]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

116 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:56:54pm

From IranElection09, video of peaceful protest.
and it was.

117 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:57:05pm

re: #111 solomonpanting

You are going to see all stops pulled from city, state and federal government agencies in their efforts to raise more money in any fashion and under any pretense.

And all stops pulled in getting rid of the parasitic politicians that pull crap like that.

118 brookly red  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:57:06pm

It has been many years since I dropped my TV in a dumpster, and zero regrets.

119 Eowyn2  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:57:13pm

re: #94 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ohioans ticketed for parking in own driveways
Jun. 16, 2009 10:44 AM
Associated Press

Greed, Greed Greed

There are no dirt or gravel roads in OH!

120 songbird  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:57:26pm

re: #100 albusteve

naked, raw, sexual POWER!
I dare you….

[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com…]

The car or the guy behind the wheel?

121 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:57:28pm

re: #72 scottishbuzzsaw

A thing of beauty for an open thread.


Thanks Cuz, I just set that as my desktop background

122 Macker  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:57:42pm

re: Eowyn2

Leave it to Toledo!

123 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:57:50pm

re: #100 albusteve

naked, raw, sexual POWER!
I dare you….

[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com…]

Now that’s Pr0n! Gorgeous, curves that say don’t stop, go faster…..

124 Last Mohican  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:58:13pm

re: #113 iceweasel

Cool, thanks for the advice. In case I can’t find a Kinko’s or whatever, isn’t there a proxy server somewhere that I could trust?

125 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:58:20pm

re: #98 Truck Monkey

Puny Purple Pines.
Cool.

These ‘pines?

126 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:58:37pm

Stamp mistakes expected to bring millions
Jun. 16, 2009 12:24 PM
Associated Press

DALLAS - One man’s collection of more than 3,000 mistakes could turn out to be worth millions.

These aren’t just ordinary errors. These are the rare variety produced when part of a postage stamp is printed upside-down.

127 Racer X  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:58:48pm

re: #109 Last Mohican


Weird. This is the address - just put http: in front:


//4.bp.blogspot.com/_3QqO8EXd-II/SK5tbwL4nZI/AAAAAAAAXa4/XJxjToDZjl0/s1600/Shelby%2B(2).jpg

128 Eowyn2  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:59:24pm

re: #103 Last Mohican

We have to remember that he probably hasn’t written his own stuff in 20 years. The great moments in presidential speeches won’t be revived with great moments in teleprompter speeches or Uncle Joe’s Foot in Mouth Follies.

129 KingKenrod  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:59:45pm

Being the perpetual butt of jokes on late night television was doing harm to the GOP. There are plenty of casual voters who let these public humiliations influence them. I think Palin realized she could never build credibility as long as she was the focus of so much ridicule, so she decided to fight back when the opportunity presented itself.

Good for her - let’s see if it has any lasting effect. I think it may.

130 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:59:53pm

re: #114 MandyManners
Yep!
ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President’s Health Care Plan
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

ABC News will host an hour-long special on health care reform in the U.S. next Wednesday from the White House East Room — a move that ABC is defending but critics are calling a surrender to the Obama administration’s effort to control the debate.
White House, ABC News teaming up for primetime discussion with Obama on proposed health care plan, sparking calls for a network boycott

131 midwestgak  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:00:28pm

This is not a political issue that raises our taxes. It does not determine who will be nominated to the supreme court. It does not raise awareness of local or state/federal government to rob us by imposing hirer taxes.

What is does show is that some social and moral values are still out there among We The People.

132 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:00:32pm

The long national nightmare is over. /

Seriously, Letterman was wrong to make Palin’s kids the butt of his joke, and his half-assed apology didn’t help matters.

Palin did him a favor.

/we now return to our regularly scheduled programming.

133 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:00:38pm

my car down in Jamaica….just feel like sharing

[Link: www.coolcarsandgirls.com…]

134 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:00:52pm
“Of course it’s accepted on behalf of young women, like my daughters, who hope men who ‘joke’ about public displays of sexual exploitation of girls will soon evolve.”

The “evolution” juxtaposition is sheer genius - a great dig at Letterman’s antediluvian joke, and a jibe at critics of her creationist views to boot.
Perfect.

135 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:00:53pm

Ohio certainly gets a lot of news today:

Airline sends Ohio-bound girl, 10, to NJ
Jun. 16, 2009 06:43 AM
Associated Press

BOSTON - Continental Airlines is apologizing for sending a 10-year-old Massachusetts girl flying alone to New Jersey instead of Ohio.

Jonathan Kamens says he brought his daughter, Miriam, to Logan International Airport in Boston on Sunday. She was to fly to Cleveland to visit her grandparents.

136 jorline  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:00:57pm

re: #100 albusteve

naked, raw, sexual POWER!
I dare you….

[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com…]

This is sexy as well…love it.

137 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:01:57pm

re: #124 Last Mohican

I’m sure there are; I know there are rolling lists of proxy servers updated all the time, but I don’t remember any URLs. Probably some lizard here will.

I wouldn’t worry about needing a proxy server; it’s pretty clear that no one monitors blogspot at all for content (their TOS even make that clear). Nothing ever gets banned or removed or even tracked unless it’s kiddie porn or something like StormFront.

(I’ve got a friend who for years has been trying to get a hate site about him removed; blogger/google does nothing)

138 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:02:15pm

re: #135 FurryOldGuyJeans

I hope she liked peanuts and cola…

139 WhiteRasta  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:02:41pm

re: #133 albusteve

Hey! Meet me at Morgan’s Harbor bar next saturday, after the flight from YYZ comes in.

140 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:02:53pm

re: #136 jorline

This is sexy as well…love it.

I get a “no” sign from some sort of hotlink protection page.

141 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:02:55pm

re: #136 jorline

This is sexy as well…love it.

What’s sexy about a red forbidden circle?

;-P Bad link…..

142 Last Mohican  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:02:59pm

re: #137 iceweasel

Well, I guess that’s good….

Thanks again, and I’ll report back when I have some results to publish.

143 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:03:03pm

re: #101 Racer X

If you like that, you’re gonna love this. Or this.

We wanted 427’s, not 404’s.

144 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:03:10pm

Police: Mass. bank worker foils robbery with text
Jun. 16, 2009 11:31 AM
Associated Press

DEDHAM, Mass. - Police near Boston say a man wearing a suit and driving a BMW tried to rob a bank at gunpoint but was arrested after an employee texted for help.

145 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:03:45pm

re: #136 jorline

This is sexy as well…love it.

forbidden image….what are you guys posting anyway?

146 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:03:47pm

re: #130 notutopia

Yep!
ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President’s Health Care Plan
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

ABC News will host an hour-long special on health care reform in the U.S. next Wednesday from the White House East Room — a move that ABC is defending but critics are calling a surrender to the Obama administration’s effort to control the debate.
White House, ABC News teaming up for primetime discussion with Obama on proposed health care plan, sparking calls for a network boycott

Whores, one and all at ABC.

147 Dianna  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:04:48pm

I loved her use of the word “evolve”.

/

148 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:04:54pm
149 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:05:27pm

re: #148 jcm

Now here is some Hot Wheels.

Sorry, kind of hard to get Pumped by that pic.

150 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:05:31pm

avantis personal ride….

Image: beetle-car-13.jpg

151 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:05:56pm

re: #142 Last Mohican

Cool; keep me posted if you don’t mind, I’ve been following that story and have some stats from elsewhere.

Doubt I’ll be able to contribute much to your own statistical analysis or be competent to assess your methodology but I’d love to see what you’ve got.
Good luck!

152 WhiteRasta  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:06:12pm

Whew! Obama calls Nork Nukes a grave threat! Maybe he will threaten to send Krazy Kim a tersely worded note.

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

153 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:06:22pm

re: #146 MandyManners

Whores, one and all at ABC.

They are not hiding the fact they are doing the administration’s propaganda, they are actually quite proud.

154 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:06:23pm

re: #130 notutopia

Yep!
ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President’s Health Care Plan
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

ABC News will host an hour-long special on health care reform in the U.S. next Wednesday from the White House East Room — a move that ABC is defending but critics are calling a surrender to the Obama administration’s effort to control the debate.
White House, ABC News teaming up for primetime discussion with Obama on proposed health care plan, sparking calls for a network boycott

Media with a liplock on Obama’s ………….

155 Racer X  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:06:28pm
156 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:06:36pm

re: #146 MandyManners

Kudos to the original break on the story…Drudge.

I agree wholeheartedly with your description of ABC.

157 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:07:02pm

re: #146 MandyManners

Whores, one and all at ABC.

Adoration
Barack
Channel

158 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:07:09pm

I really don’t know what people expected Governor Palin to say, do and think. For the longest time, she and her family were subject to utterly vicious lies and insults and now she decided it was enough. Good for her and bad for Letterman.

159 brookly red  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:07:19pm

re: #130 notutopia

Yep!
ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President’s Health Care Plan
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

ABC News will host an hour-long special on health care reform in the U.S. next Wednesday from the White House East Room — a move that ABC is defending but critics are calling a surrender to the Obama administration’s effort to control the debate.
White House, ABC News teaming up for primetime discussion with Obama on proposed health care plan, sparking calls for a network boycott

/did they remember to declare this as a campaign donation?

160 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:08:03pm

re: #147 Dianna

I loved her use of the word “evolve”.

/

GMTA - see #134 ↑

161 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:08:13pm

re: #159 brookly red

/did they remember to declare this as a campaign donation?

Lots of luck on that!

162 Macker  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:08:25pm

re: solomonpanting

Watch ABC’s ratings go straight to Hell.

163 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:09:06pm

I must admit that this story did not captivate me. What is happening in iran DOES captivate me. letterman was an asshole with his lame attempt at humor. his half baked efforts to apologize were basically done at gunpoint as his advertisers probably put pressure on CBS. Palin showed class in her handling of the situation. And the good part about all of this is that it will be a LONG time before letterman puts a target on Palin or her family members. In fact, he may even feel compelled to say a couple of nice things about her moving forward. He won’t mean them, of course. But he has been publicly spanked and sent to his room.

And now for the latest from Tehran …. I’ll bet letterman doesn’t even have a clue what is at stake in that nation.

164 [deleted]  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:09:07pm
165 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:09:21pm

re: #162 Macker

Watch ABC’s ratings go straight to Hell.

They took the shovel to dig in that direction for themselves.

166 mikalm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:09:52pm

re: #72 scottishbuzzsaw

Very nice!

Here’s a pic of my home.

167 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:10:02pm

Once he was lost, but now is found
Jun. 15, 2009 03:08 PM
Associated Press

WOODHAVEN, Mich. - His hair had grayed and he’d lost several teeth.

But there was something about the small, wiry man who walked into the shelter at the Woodhaven Bible Church in suburban Detroit in search of a bed for the night. With boyish enthusiasm, he told church volunteer Pat Fite about his “good day,” how pleased he was to have found some discarded returnable cans and a grungy baseball. Pat helped him clean up the ball. She continued to study his face.

It was a good day for Monte, indeed - and it was about to get a whole lot better.

168 [deleted]  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:10:04pm
169 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:10:23pm

re: #165 notutopia

They took the shovel to dig in that direction for themselves.


Good to know they’re the do-it-yourself type of organization.

170 [deleted]  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:11:53pm
171 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:12:05pm

Judge: Simpson acquittal suit’ to stay in storage
Jun. 15, 2009 03:18 PM
Associated Press

SANTA MONICA, Calif. - A California judge has ordered O.J. Simpson’s former manager to keep the former football star’s so-called acquittal suit in storage until it is determined who rightfully owns it.

Santa Monica Superior Court Judge Gerald Rosenberg heard Monday from a lawyer for Fred Goldman, who is seeking to sell the suit Simpson wore to court when he was acquitted on murder charges.

172 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:12:08pm

re: #166 mikalm

Very nice!

Here’s a pic of my home.

Gorgeous! I’d live there in a heartbeat!

173 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:12:22pm

re: #168 buzzsawmonkey

Now that Letterman has apologized, I can return to not watching him with a clear conscience.

Too bad it wasn’t Rush Limbaugh effing up. Then we could talk about it forever.

174 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:12:26pm

re: #155 Racer X

1966 Shelby G.T.350 station wagon

Different one.

pretty cool…but faux

175 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:12:50pm

re: #169 solomonpanting

Good to know they’re the do-it-yourself type of organization.

I’ll lend them a dozen or so of pick-axes so they can get there quicker, and maybe we’ll still have a chance to find out what REALLY is the agenda for the
New Improved Obama Healthcare Plan.

176 LatinGent  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:13:32pm

Agreed, this is a total detour. That being said, if I were Todd Palin I`d have said nothing and just showed up at Daves parking lot after work. But that why I`m not a politician.

177 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:15:16pm

re: #176 LatinGent

Agreed, this is a total detour. That being said, if I were Todd Palin I`d have said nothing and just showed up at Daves parking lot after work. But that why I`m not a politician.

Todd? The 14-year-old could’ve handled Letterman.

/now that would be comedy genius

178 Racer X  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:15:30pm

re: #174 albusteve

pretty cool…but faux

*pop*

Way to burst my bubble.

179 [deleted]  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:15:33pm
180 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:15:39pm

Sammy Sosa tested positive for steroids in 2001 according to the NYT.

181 Dianna  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:16:18pm

re: #160 Spare O’Lake

GMTA - see #134 ↑

Sorry I missed it! Fighting with stubborn spreadsheets.

182 brookly red  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:16:27pm

re: #177 OldLineTexan

Todd? The 14-year-old could’ve handled Letterman.

/now that would be comedy genius

/& she can’t be tried as an adult :)

183 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:16:34pm

re: #158 Joan Not of Arc

I really don’t know what people expected Governor Palin to say, do and think. For the longest time, she and her family were subject to utterly vicious lies and insults and now she decided it was enough. Good for her and bad for Letterman.

No such thing as bad publicity, unless you’re a conservative.

/old saw amended for the progressive era

184 Nonni  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:16:55pm

She has class

185 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:16:55pm

‘Roids hab been berry berry gut to me…….

186 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:17:10pm

re: #175 notutopia

I’ll lend them a dozen or so of pick-axes so they can get there quicker, and maybe we’ll still have a chance to find out what REALLY is the agenda for the
New Improved Obama Healthcare Plan.

Everyone will be covered
in debt
poor quality care
dispassionate health care providers
waiting lists
fewer services
…………

187 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:17:23pm

re: #182 brookly red

My goodness that was devious of you.

/I admire that in a person

188 avanti  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:17:29pm

re: #152 WhiteRasta

Whew! Obama calls Nork Nukes a grave threat! Maybe he will threaten to send Krazy Kim a tersely worded note.

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

In fairness, what is being planed is far more extensive sanctions that have gone before. The Nork ships will be shadowed, attempts will be made to board and they will not be allowed to refuel without a inspection. It’s the first time the entire International community got on board against the North Koreans and that is progress. I like this line:

“Obama said the world must break a pattern in which North Korea puts the globe on edge, only to put itself in line for concessions if it holds out long enough.”

189 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:17:50pm

re: #185 Ben Hur

‘Roids hab been berry berry gut to me…….

Time for some Preparation H, then. ;)

190 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:17:55pm

From Tehran Bureau:

From a private listserv: 150 proferssors of Tehran university have resigned and are trying to do the funeral ceremony for 5 students killed

five students killed in the dormitory. They were scheduled to go to one of Tehran’s hospital this morning.

From SmileOfCrash - looks like people are getting tired:


#iranelection tonight here is more silent than last night,people are tired of today demonstration i just heard for 2hours “Allah o akbar”
191 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:18:15pm

re: #177 OldLineTexan

Todd? The 14-year-old could’ve handled Letterman.

/now that would be comedy genius

Palin family Christmas card, featuring the younger kids taking out Letterman in a parking lot. Willow and Piper have wrenches, Trig bites his ankles once he’s down.

192 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:18:27pm

OOps sorry 2003:
Sammy Sosa, who joined with Mark McGwire in 1998 in a celebrated pursuit of baseball’s single-season home run record, is among the players who tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug in 2003, according to lawyers with knowledge of the drug-testing results from that year.

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

Sorry about the link to the NYTs

193 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:18:32pm

re: #186 solomonpanting

And you think ABC’s Gibbons is going to air that?

194 midwestgak  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:18:58pm

re: #158 Joan Not of Arc

I really don’t know what people expected Governor Palin to say, do and think. For the longest time, she and her family were subject to utterly vicious lies and insults and now she decided it was enough. Good for her and bad for Letterman.

As all ideology goes, Palin is opposite of those who think/believe like Letterman. CNN held a poll of those who watch such “shows”. Unsurprisingly, Palin came in way lower.

I watch CNN not to get “news”. I watch it to see what others think/believe.

My conclusion is that many in this country have stopped thinking. Don’t care. And would rather be left alone to do what ever it is they do.

“Our lives will go on forever. No need to get involved. I’m in power of my own life/family.”

They just don’t see/know that those with too much power WILL/HAVE/SHALL now take away this delusion.

195 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:19:09pm

re: #180 Nevergiveup

Sammy Sosa tested positive for steroids in 2001 according to the NYT.


gee …. are they calling that some sort of scoop? In other breaking news from today’s NYT, charles lindbergh has landed safely in paris.

196 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:19:20pm

re: #193 notutopia

And you think ABC’s Gibbons is going to air that?

I don’t know who that is.

197 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:19:22pm

re: #188 avanti

The need “permission” to board them and China is against boarding even though they voted for it?

198 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:19:44pm

re: #167 FurryOldGuyJeans

Once he was lost, but now is found
Jun. 15, 2009 03:08 PM
Associated Press

RTWT lizards, it’ll put a smile on your face and tear in your eye.

199 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:20:03pm

re: #195 _RememberTonyC

gee …. are they calling that some sort of scoop? In other breaking news from today’s NYT, charles lindbergh has landed safely in paris.

Well “proof”- I don’t need it but some people might?

200 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:20:16pm

re: #129 KingKenrod

Being the perpetual butt of jokes on late night television was doing harm to the GOP. There are plenty of casual voters who let these public humiliations influence them. I think Palin realized she could never build credibility as long as she was the focus of so much ridicule, so she decided to fight back when the opportunity presented itself.

Good for her - let’s see if it has any lasting effect. I think it may.

If folks keep piling on their disapproval, thereby sending more of these liberal loons careers (like Rosie O’Donnell’s) south, to a point where work is mostly not available, maybe, just maybe, some will decide it just ain’t worth putting their careers on the line.

201 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:21:38pm

re: #200 unrealizedviewpoint

If folks keep piling on their disapproval, thereby sending more of these liberal loons careers (like Rosie O’Donnell’s) south, to a point where work is mostly not available, maybe, just maybe, some will decide it just ain’t worth putting their careers on the line.

The view is still on TV?

202 opnion  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:21:48pm

re: #168 buzzsawmonkey

Now that Letterman has apologized, I can return to not watching him with a clear conscience.

Yeah ok, Letterman screwed up, but he has redeeming qualities like, uh, um, uh wait, there’s ah. Damn, can’t think of anything.

203 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:22:12pm

re: #192 Nevergiveup

OOps sorry 2003:
Sammy Sosa, who joined with Mark McGwire in 1998 in a celebrated pursuit of baseball’s single-season home run record, is among the players who tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug in 2003, according to lawyers with knowledge of the drug-testing results from that year.

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

Sorry about the link to the NYTs

Ahhh….I remember that summer well.

Was in visiting from Israel.

Was labelled a racist by the American MSM because I was rooting for the American McGuire over the Dominican Sosa to win the HR derby.

(Yes, there were a lot of stories about why it seemed that people were rooting for McGuire….all assumed it was race.)

204 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:22:13pm

Palin 2012

205 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:22:32pm

She should have buried in that thing on top of his neck. But Ok, she scored on for the female sex that the left wing feministas did not want to address. Bunch of cowards.

206 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:23:03pm

re: #202 opnion

Yeah ok, Letterman screwed up, but he has redeeming qualities like, uh, um, uh wait, there’s ah. Damn, can’t think of anything.

Now you know telepromters are so handy necessary for some folks.

207 brookly red  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:23:14pm

re: #191 SanFranciscoZionist

Palin family Christmas card, featuring the younger kids taking out Letterman in a parking lot. Willow and Piper have wrenches, Trig bites his ankles once he’s down.

/ What I did on my Summer Vacation; by Willow Palin…

208 avanti  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:23:59pm

re: #197 Nevergiveup

The need “permission” to board them and China is against boarding even though they voted for it?

The provision that prevents refueling without inspections should make boarding unnecessary in most cases. It’s not a perfect statement, but the Norks are way more isolated then before.

209 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:24:00pm

Hirsutism
World’s Hairiest People
photos
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

210 Racer X  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:24:01pm

Dear Dave,

You’re still a dick. Apology accepted.

Love ya!

Sarah

211 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:24:05pm

re: #202 opnion

I have an old Letterman’s broken window sound that I used to use on my old original Mac for an alert sound. Does that count?

212 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:24:10pm

re: #199 Nevergiveup

Well “proof”- I don’t need it but some people might?

I cover sports for a living, so clearly I am no brain surgeon. But here’s my proof. He went from being a singles hitter to belting 66 home runs. That is not the natural evolution of a baseball player’s skill set.

213 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:24:15pm

re: #198 jcm

RTWT lizards, it’ll put a smile on your face and tear in your eye.


The last time they had seen him, Pat and Howard were in their 20s and Monte was a towheaded, freckled boy at a Handley family reunion - summertime picnics that had become increasingly infrequent over the years as the older generation died.

Read that completely wrong at first.

214 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:24:21pm

re: #191 SanFranciscoZionist

Palin family Christmas card, featuring the younger kids taking out Letterman in a parking lot. Willow and Piper have wrenches, Trig bites his ankles once he’s down.

Actually, I was thinking the 14-year-old could start a “out-of-wedlock baby awareness” campaign, and offer Letterman a spokesperson position.

;)

215 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:24:43pm

re: #201 Nevergiveup

The view is still on TV?

and Rosie O’Donnell ain’t on it or anything else.

216 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:25:00pm

re: #203 Ben Hur

Ahhh….I remember that summer well.

Was in visiting from Israel.

Was labelled a racist by the American MSM because I was rooting for the American McGuire over the Dominican Sosa to win the HR derby.

(Yes, there were a lot of stories about why it seemed that people were rooting for McGuire….all assumed it was race.)


McGwire was on the juice as well!

217 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:25:06pm

re: #188 avanti

In fairness, what is being planed is far more extensive sanctions that have gone before. The Nork ships will be shadowed, attempts will be made to board and they will not be allowed to refuel without a inspection. It’s the first time the entire International community got on board against the North Koreans and that is progress. I like this line:

“Obama said the world must break a pattern in which North Korea puts the globe on edge, only to put itself in line for concessions if it holds out long enough.”

Got a link for that?

218 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:25:22pm

Libya: 1 person dies from bubonic plague

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Memo to self: Scratch Libya from vacation list.

219 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:25:22pm

re: #196 solomonpanting

I don’t know who that is.

me’Thinks that was meant to be GIBSON, not Gibbons

220 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:25:37pm

I have been calling one of the lizards in our yard “UPS”, because, compared to the others, she was big and brown, and ready to make a delivery. She has now laid her eggs, and looks deflated. If they don’t get eaten by the whiptail that’s been hanging around, we should have some hatchlings in August.

221 [deleted]  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:26:03pm
222 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:26:34pm

re: #212 _RememberTonyC

I cover sports for a living, so clearly I am no brain surgeon. But here’s my proof. He went from being a singles hitter to belting 66 home runs. That is not the natural evolution of a baseball player’s skill set.

Hey I’m with you!

223 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:27:01pm

re: #218 Nevergiveup

Libya: 1 person dies from bubonic plague

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Memo to self: Scratch Libya from vacation list.

why was it on the list in the 1st place? What else is on the list,,,, Black Hole Of Calcutta? A Turkish prison!?!?!?

224 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:27:04pm

re: #218 Nevergiveup

Libya: 1 person dies from bubonic plague

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Memo to self: Scratch Libya from vacation list.

That must be one long list, with nearly every country in the world on it.

225 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:27:33pm

re: #200 unrealizedviewpoint

If folks keep piling on their disapproval, thereby sending more of these liberal loons careers (like Rosie O’Donnell’s) south, to a point where work is mostly not available, maybe, just maybe, some will decide it just ain’t worth putting their careers on the line.

Where are the Dixie Chicks, anyway?

226 subsailor68  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:27:39pm

I really wish Obama would stop talking about health care. That’s not what he’s trying to get passed. He wants universal health insurance.

As others have said here, access to health care is rarely the issue (although I understand there are some rural areas where it’s more difficult than in metro areas). It’s the cost.

Okay, so Obama spends trillions to insure those who currently don’t have health insurance. Whether they want it or not.

So what’s the problem? He’ll bankrupt the system, just as politicians have already done to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. To attempt to stave that off, he’ll be forced to ration not health care per se, but reimbursement for certain tests, services, and so forth.

But what does that mean? The quality and availability of health care in the U.S. will plummet not in spite of, but because of, the actions he’s proposing to take.

This is madness.

227 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:27:46pm

re: #218 Nevergiveup

Libya: 1 person dies from bubonic plague

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Memo to self: Scratch Libya from vacation list.

some kid died a few weeks ago here in NM from that

228 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:27:59pm

re: #219 sattv4u2

me’Thinks that was meant to be GIBSON, not Gibbons


Oh. For a moment I thought this was evolving into an ape/human creationist thread.

229 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:28:16pm

re: #223 sattv4u2

why was it on the list in the 1st place? What else is on the list,,,, Black Hole Of Calcutta? A Turkish prison!?!?!?

“Hey Johnny …. Do you like movies about gladiators?”

~ Peter Graves … Airplane 1980

230 soxfan4life  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:28:22pm

re: #212 _RememberTonyC

I cover sports for a living, so clearly I am no brain surgeon. But here’s my proof. He went from being a singles hitter to belting 66 home runs. That is not the natural evolution of a baseball player’s skill set.

Plus look at how small he was when he first came into the league.

231 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:28:24pm

re: #216 _RememberTonyC

McGwire was on the juice as well!

Absolutely.

And I remember the press giving him crap over his creatine use (which, if you drink a sh*tload of water, is safe)

His line was, “Guys, right now there are thousands of weight lifters laughing at you……”

232 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:28:27pm

re: #223 sattv4u2

re: #224 wrenchwench

Well hum I was going to tour WW2 battlefields, Yeah, that’s the ticket.

233 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:28:28pm

re: #218 Nevergiveup

Libya: 1 person dies from bubonic plague

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Memo to self: Scratch Libya from vacation list.

You won’t be able to vacation in the US, either.

234 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:28:37pm

re: #183 OldLineTexan

As has been proven, I’m afraid.

re: #194 midwestgak

What I’ve seen confirms some of what you say and quite a bit of irrational and really ugly hatred. I have no idea how Palin can piss people off so much. Intellectually, I know it’s because of her conservative views. As a human being, no clue.

235 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:28:59pm

re: #218 Nevergiveup

Libya: 1 person dies from bubonic plague

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Memo to self: Scratch Libya from vacation list.

Bubonic plague is not as “sexy” as swine flu right now.

236 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:29:05pm

re: #222 Nevergiveup

Hey I’m with you!


That’s why I like the NBA best … the only drugs they use are recreational!

237 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:29:05pm

re: #225 Son of the Black Dog

Where are the Dixie Chicks, anyway?

The real question is: who cares where they are?

238 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:29:27pm

It’s NATIONAL health care.

Not UNIVERSAL.

There is a whole world out there……

239 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:29:40pm

re: #225 Son of the Black Dog

Where are the Dixie Chicks, anyway?

summer, and they are not on tour?….what’s up with that?

240 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:29:43pm

re: #227 albusteve

some kid died a few weeks ago here in NM from that

I bet you wouldn’t say… some kid…if you knew who he was personally.

241 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:29:54pm

re: #220 wrenchwench

I have been calling one of the lizards in our yard “UPS”, because, compared to the others, she was big and brown, and ready to make a delivery. She has now laid her eggs, and looks deflated. If they don’t get eaten by the whiptail that’s been hanging around, we should have some hatchlings in August.

I didn’t know we could grow our own lizards at home now!

242 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:29:58pm

re: #209 notutopia

Its gene related, there was a story about it that I can’t find published recently that I can’t put my hands on now.

243 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:30:01pm

Manscape and fear not the pubonic plague.

244 [deleted]  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:30:05pm
245 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:30:31pm

re: #226 subsailor68

I really wish Obama would stop talking about health care. That’s not what he’s trying to get passed. He wants universal health insurance.

As others have said here, access to health care is rarely the issue (although I understand there are some rural areas where it’s more difficult than in metro areas). It’s the cost.

Okay, so Obama spends trillions to insure those who currently don’t have health insurance. Whether they want it or not.

So what’s the problem? He’ll bankrupt the system, just as politicians have already done to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. To attempt to stave that off, he’ll be forced to ration not health care per se, but reimbursement for certain tests, services, and so forth.

But what does that mean? The quality and availability of health care in the U.S. will plummet not in spite of, but because of, the actions he’s proposing to take.

This is madness.

The House bill for this fiasco is going to RAISE taxes by $600B, and cut Medicare/Medicaid to the tune of another $400B.

246 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:30:44pm

Remind me again why this was news for 5 days? Sometimes I really hate that we’ve become a bunch of whiny pansy asses. Or maybe it’s just that Palin will do anything for a little airtime.

There was this by McCain in 1998:
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father was Janet Reno. Which I think goes well beyond what Letterman said and yet I don’t recall ever hearing about it. In fact Chelsea was constantly made fun of and I never remember the Clintons going on about it.

247 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:30:54pm

re: #233 OldLineTexan

You won’t be able to vacation in the US, either.

Who’s got time for vacation anyway?

248 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:31:03pm

re: #235 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oh rats.

249 avanti  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:31:11pm

re: #217 FurryOldGuyJeans

Got a link for that?


“The officials said that they believed that China would also enforce the new sanctions, which also require countries to refuse to refuel or resupply ships suspected of carrying out arms and nuclear technology.”

link

250 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:31:14pm

OT:

For those who are saying that the Obama approach of “concern for violence / wait and see if we should accept election result”, Michael Totten has posted this:

Iranian students in Iran asked a CNN correspondent to pass on a message to the United States. If President Obama accepts the “election” result, they told him, “we’re doomed.”

251 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:31:30pm

Since this is an open thread, here’s my WTF link of the day:

Fred Phelps’ crazy Westboro church (the people who picket funerals of soldiers) has released a lovely little song:

“God hates the world” sung to the tune of “we are the world”

Chorus:
God hates the world
(you know he hates you)
And all her people
(you evil people)
You everyone face a fiery day
For your proud sinning.

252 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:31:35pm

re: #240 notutopia

I bet you wouldn’t say… some kid…if you knew who he was personally.

probably not…what’s your point?

253 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:31:50pm

re: #236 _RememberTonyC

That’s why I like the NBA best … the only drugs they use are recreational!

Why do you assume that?

254 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:31:58pm

re: #244 buzzsawmonkey

None of this makes sense.

No it does not. Hardly anything coming out of Washington D.C. theses days makes any sense at all.

We must be pretty close to collectively brain dead in this country.

255 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:32:03pm

re: #242 Shr_Nfr

Its gene related, there was a story about it that I can’t find published recently that I can’t put my hands on now.

It’s fascinating. Hair and then skin, is the body’s first line of defense against the environment, and infection.

256 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:32:07pm

re: #212 _RememberTonyC

There’s also the corked bat…

257 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:32:15pm

re: #238 Ben Hur

It’s NATIONAL health care.

Not UNIVERSAL.

There is a whole world out there……

Don’t give him any ideas

258 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:32:22pm

re: #244 buzzsawmonkey

None of this makes sense.

This is one very short, concise defintion of socialism.

259 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:32:22pm

re: #244 buzzsawmonkey

What I don’t understand is why he keeps babbling about how the cost of health care is a drain on the federal government—now.

Since most people do not have their health care paid for by the feds, why should this be—and why, if it is a drain now, is he proposing that the government drain itself further?

None of this makes sense.

He’s trying to prevent Medicare from going bankrupt by messing with the whole system.

260 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:32:55pm

re: #246 american sabra

Remind me again why this was news for 5 days? Sometimes I really hate that we’ve become a bunch of whiny pansy asses. Or maybe it’s just that Palin will do anything for a little airtime.

There was this by McCain in 1998:
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father was Janet Reno. Which I think goes well beyond what Letterman said and yet I don’t recall ever hearing about it. In fact Chelsea was constantly made fun of and I never remember the Clintons going on about it.

I’m sure he had to apologize as well.

You really think remarking on someone’s appearance is worse than sexual assault at worse, or calling someone’s daughter a ho at best?

261 coldwarrior  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:33:28pm

re: #212 _RememberTonyC

I cover sports for a living, so clearly I am no brain surgeon. But here’s my proof. He went from being a singles hitter to belting 66 home runs. That is not the natural evolution of a baseball player’s skill set.

didja ever see the pictures of barry bonds from his first year to his last?
one of the pittsburgh papers had it last summer, its scarry.

pure ‘roids.

262 Macker  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:33:40pm

re: #251 iceweasel

Thanks for that.

/

263 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:33:42pm

re: #246 american sabra

Agreed. I can’t help think about the hysterical outrage if Obama was trying to get a comedian fired for telling a political joke. It’s just stupid but a lot of people find it an exiting and invigorating thing to do.

264 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:33:55pm

re: #246 american sabra

Remind me again why this was news for 5 days? Sometimes I really hate that we’ve become a bunch of whiny pansy asses. Or maybe it’s just that Palin will do anything for a little airtime.

There was this by McCain in 1998:
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father was Janet Reno. Which I think goes well beyond what Letterman said and yet I don’t recall ever hearing about it. In fact Chelsea was constantly made fun of and I never remember the Clintons going on about it.

And someone had to apologize for the “pimping her out” comment, no?

When it crosses into the sexual, it’s different.

265 Wendya  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:10pm

re: #244 buzzsawmonkey

What I don’t understand is why he keeps babbling about how the cost of health care is a drain on the federal government—now.

Since most people do not have their health care paid for by the feds, why should this be—and why, if it is a drain now, is he proposing that the government drain itself further?

None of this makes sense.

I guess he means it’ll be less of a drain if he forces businesses to pay the government for their employee’s healthcare.

266 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:17pm

re: #251 iceweasel

Since this is an open thread, here’s my WTF link of the day:

Fred Phelps’ crazy Westboro church (the people who picket funerals of soldiers) has released a lovely little song:

“God hates the world” sung to the tune of “we are the world”


[Video]Chorus:
God hates the world
(you know he hates you)
And all her people
(you evil people)
You everyone face a fiery day
For your proud sinning.

John 3:16

It’s clear that man with the ugly twisted soul has never read the book he proclaims to believe in.

267 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:19pm

Uma, Oprah, Uma, Oprah - the worst Academy Awards host ever!

268 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:37pm

re: #255 notutopia

It’s fascinating. Hair and then skin, is the body’s first line of defense against the environment, and infection.

oh noes my skull is in danger

269 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:40pm

re: #252 albusteve

some kid…
is so detached. Someone’s child, or grandchild, died of a serious and very painful disease.

270 [deleted]  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:40pm
271 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:52pm

re: #246 american sabra

Remind me again why this was news for 5 days? Sometimes I really hate that we’ve become a bunch of whiny pansy asses. Or maybe it’s just that Palin will do anything for a little airtime.

There was this by McCain in 1998:
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father was Janet Reno. Which I think goes well beyond what Letterman said and yet I don’t recall ever hearing about it. In fact Chelsea was constantly made fun of and I never remember the Clintons going on about it.

From the article you linked at Salon:

Though no tape of McCain’s quip has yet emerged, this is what he reportedly said:


Salon - WTF do you expect?

272 subsailor68  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:53pm

re: #238 Ben Hur

It’s NATIONAL health care.

Not UNIVERSAL.

There is a whole world out there……

That’s actually a good point. I assume when those terms are used interchangeably the term universal is meant to apply to the “universe of American citizens needing access to health care.”

273 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:56pm

re: #263 Killgore Trout

Agreed. I can’t help think about the hysterical outrage if Obama was trying to get a comedian fired for telling a political joke. It’s just stupid but a lot of people find it an exiting and invigorating thing to do.

Listen, I know he bowed, but did Bush ever try to have someone fired over a joke?

The only one firing PRIVATE SECTOR people is THE ONE.

274 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:56pm

re: #246 american sabra

Don’t forget that Rush once said on his TV show that the White House had gotten a new dog— and put up a picture of then 13 yr old Chelsea.

Frankly, this Letterman bit is just the newest evidence that we have some deepseated sexism and misogyny in this country and no one political party has a lock on it.

275 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:34:57pm

re: #230 soxfan4life

Plus look at how small he was when he first came into the league.


Many of the players from the Dominican Republic have been steroids users. Growing up, their diets were far below what American players were used to. And while they had great baseball skills, they were mostly not power hitters. But with the advent of the juice, people like Miguel Tejada went from single digit home run totals to large HR numbers. Sosa, Tejada, Manny Ramirez, and others have since been exposed. I am not making this some sort of anti Dominican rant, so don’t get me wrong. Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro and countless other American born players also cheated. And hopefully baseball is on its way to cleaning up the sport.

276 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:35:17pm

re: #262 Macker

Heh. Sorry.

277 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:35:33pm

re: #263 Killgore Trout

Agreed. I can’t help think about the hysterical outrage if Obama was trying to get a comedian fired for telling a political joke. It’s just stupid but a lot of people find it an exiting and invigorating thing to do.


Explain how it was a ‘political joke.”

278 soxfan4life  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:35:53pm

re: #226 subsailor68

I really wish Obama would stop talking about health care. That’s not what he’s trying to get passed. He wants universal health insurance.

As others have said here, access to health care is rarely the issue (although I understand there are some rural areas where it’s more difficult than in metro areas). It’s the cost.

Okay, so Obama spends trillions to insure those who currently don’t have health insurance. Whether they want it or not.

So what’s the problem? He’ll bankrupt the system, just as politicians have already done to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. To attempt to stave that off, he’ll be forced to ration not health care per se, but reimbursement for certain tests, services, and so forth.

But what does that mean? The quality and availability of health care in the U.S. will plummet not in spite of, but because of, the actions he’s proposing to take.

This is madness.


A guy on the radio here in boston was talking about his misuse of the word crisis. Health care is not a crisis in America as we have the best system in the world, at least until FCBBHO gets done with it.

279 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:36:00pm

re: #265 Wendya

I guess he means it’ll be less of a drain if he forces businesses to pay the government for their employee’s healthcare.


With the result being that businesses will pass the cost to consumers and/or hire fewer employees.

280 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:36:08pm

I am looking forward to seeing whether shortshit still has that stupid smirk plastered on his ugly face.

281 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:36:12pm

re: #274 iceweasel

Don’t forget that Rush once said on his TV show that the White House had gotten a new dog— and put up a picture of then 13 yr old Chelsea.

Frankly, this Letterman bit is just the newest evidence that we have some deepseated sexism and misogyny in this country and no one political party has a lock on it.

Quit being hysterical.

///

282 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:36:25pm

re: #270 buzzsawmonkey

Big sinners keep on sinning
Proud Satan keeps on winning
Rollin’ (rollin’) Rollin’ (rollin’)
To Hell in handbaskets

I never knew handbaskets had wheels! Awesome.

283 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:36:29pm

Reports on twitter…..

Youtube is beginning to remove videos of injured and dead protesters. SAVE THESE VIDEOS


Not surprising.

284 subsailor68  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:36:31pm

re: #245 FurryOldGuyJeans

The House bill for this fiasco is going to RAISE taxes by $600B, and cut Medicare/Medicaid to the tune of another $400B.

Hi Furry! Yep, I read that as well. The key is the second proposal. Medicare and Medicaid are bankrupt now, and they are proposing to cut funding. That goes to my point about services not being available, because there’s no money to pay for them.

285 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:36:50pm

New Mormon temple’s angel struck by lightning
Jun. 15, 2009 03:04 PM
Associated Press

SOUTH JORDAN, Utah - Mother Nature left her mark on a new Mormon temple over the weekend when a lightning strike hit the building, blackening the golden angel that tops it.

286 avanti  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:36:50pm

re: #250 karmic_inquisitor

OT:

For those who are saying that the Obama approach of “concern for violence / wait and see if we should accept election result”, Michael Totten has posted this:

You can’t on one hand say Obama has no effect when he speaks, then say his words are essential on the other. It’s up to the Iranians to decide what to do.
BTW, I tend to agree that he should not declare either one a winner while the result is in dispute.

287 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:36:53pm

re: #268 OldLineTexan

oh noes my skull is in danger


Lols!
Wear a do rag! and apply lots of UV protective sunscreen lotion. If nothing else, you’ll be soft to rub.

288 yochanan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:37:17pm

re: #35 Nevergiveup

don’t eat yellow snow

289 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:37:22pm

re: #269 notutopia

some kid…
is so detached. Someone’s child, or grandchild, died of a serious and very painful disease.

yes I’m detached…

290 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:37:35pm

re: #272 subsailor68

That’s actually a good point. I assume when those terms are used interchangeably the term universal is meant to apply to the “universe of American citizens needing access to health care.”

I tend to think it’s a deeper issue where Americans believe that America is the world.

291 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:37:40pm

re: #246 american sabra

Remind me again why this was news for 5 days? Sometimes I really hate that we’ve become a bunch of whiny pansy asses. Or maybe it’s just that Palin will do anything for a little airtime.

There was this by McCain in 1998:
Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father was Janet Reno. Which I think goes well beyond what Letterman said and yet I don’t recall ever hearing about it. In fact Chelsea was constantly made fun of and I never remember the Clintons going on about it.

What’s the matter with you? Gap tooth was talking about being statuorily raped by a baseball player! Also Alex Rodriguez should get an apology as well. There is a difference between being called ugly and being the butt of a rape joke. Btw Hillary did complain when Saturday Night Live made fun of Chelsea’s looks in comparison to the Gore children.

292 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:37:42pm

re: #253 Nevergiveup

Why do you assume that?


It is not an assumption.

293 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:38:02pm

re: #285 FurryOldGuyJeans

New Mormon temple’s angel struck by lightning
Jun. 15, 2009 03:04 PM
Associated Press

Poor Moroni.

I suppose they usually put a lightning rod nearby?

294 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:38:10pm

re: #289 albusteve

yes I’m detached…

You’d make a great mortician.

295 ladycatnip  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:38:18pm

It’s not a good idea to minimize what Letterman did. This kind of scorched earth politics directed at the children of political figures is very nasty - especially when that nastiness is only directed at a conservative woman’s children. McCain’s joke about Chelsea was abhorrent, but he wasn’t broadcasting it to millions of watchers as Letterman did. McCain also wasn’t suggesting someone rape her either. Big difference.

Yes Iran is a pressing issue, but another equally important issue for our country is ABC moving into the WH. We’re looking at a very dangerous shift in the news. American Thinker is calling this 1984 all over again.

President Obama is expected to unveil a plan that would give the government new powers to seize key companies whose failure jeopardizes the financial system.

When I hear the words “plan to give the government new powers to seize key companies” my skin begins to crawl. This is not the way to govern; it’s more like ruling. In other countries they call it totalitarianism.

296 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:38:36pm

re: #292 _RememberTonyC

It is not an assumption.

You don’t think any NBA players ever took Steroids?

297 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:38:37pm

re: #256 Fenway_Nation

There’s also the corked bat…


right … i almost forgot that

298 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:38:38pm

re: #274 iceweasel

Don’t forget that Rush once said on his TV show that the White House had gotten a new dog— and put up a picture of then 13 yr old Chelsea.

Frankly, this Letterman bit is just the newest evidence that we have some deepseated sexism and misogyny in this country and no one political party has a lock on it.


100% correct.

Yet only on political party gets called out over it.

299 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:03pm

re: #263 Killgore Trout

Agreed. I can’t help think about the hysterical outrage if Obama was trying to get a comedian fired for telling a political joke. It’s just stupid but a lot of people find it an exiting and invigorating thing to do.

Which would be nothing compared to the hysterical outrage that would have ensued if George Bush had tried to get any personality fired over anything.

300 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:03pm

re: #287 notutopia

Lols!
Wear a do rag! and apply lots of UV protective sunscreen lotion. If nothing else, you’ll be soft to rub.

I have a desert sand boonie hat so as not to frighten and offend my bitter clingy Neanderthalistic conservative retro neighbors.

/

301 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:16pm

re: #266 jcm

John 3:16

It’s clear that man with the ugly twisted soul has never read the book he proclaims to believe in.

Very true. He is one scary dude, and most of his ‘church’ are his family members. They’re like a cult.

I hope I’m wrong about this, but I could imagine him deciding to go out one day in a blaze of glory — Jonestown or Waco-like situation. I hope not, but I hope the proper authorities are watching him. I worry about the really little kids you see in that video holding hateful signs.

302 [deleted]  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:25pm
303 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:36pm

re: #263 Killgore Trout

Agreed. I can’t help think about the hysterical outrage if Obama was trying to get a comedian fired for telling a political joke. It’s just stupid but a lot of people find it an exiting and invigorating thing to do.

Say something “offensive” about me, I’ll laugh or give it back twofold
Say something “offnesive” about my wife, she’ll take it in stride
Say something ‘offensive” about my son, you better pray I get hold of you before my wife does
Motherly instincts are a powerful force


I would not call for Letterman to be fired. I think Imus being fired was a sham (the bball players had accepted his apology, but Sharpton et al needed to be ‘relevent’ in the story)


just sayin

304 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:43pm

re: #278 soxfan4life

A guy on the radio here in boston was talking about his misuse of the word crisis. Health care is not a crisis in America as we have the best system in the world, at least until FCBBHO gets done with it.

Cloward-Piven Crisis Care

The president’s ability to exploit crises is reminiscent of the controversial teachings of Columbia University political scientists, Frances Fox Cloward and Richard Andrew Piven. Inspired by the Obama mentor — radical community organizer Saul Alinsky — these two sixties social revolutionaries taught that upheaval is something that should “never be wasted” and that political change can be fostered through “…orchestrated crisis.” Two skills Barack Obama proficiently exercises every chance he gets.


This get’s back to Obama’s unreleased Columbia Transcripts, just who were his professors?

305 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:44pm

re: #285 FurryOldGuyJeans

New Mormon temple’s angel struck by lightning
Jun. 15, 2009 03:04 PM
Associated Press

Not religious myself, but I can see some god fearing folk taking that as a message. What message? I do not know.

306 jorline  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:44pm

re: #145 albusteve

forbidden image….what are you guys posting anyway?

68 Shelby Mustang GT

307 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:45pm

re: #280 Spare O’Lake

I am looking forward to seeing whether shortshit still has that stupid smirk plastered on his ugly face.

APOLOGIZE!

308 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:54pm

re: #238 Ben Hur

It’s NATIONAL health care.

Not UNIVERSAL.

There is a whole world out there……

This administration is handing out civil rights to terrorists, so why not extend US taxpayer funded health care for the entire planet?

309 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:39:59pm

re: #294 notutopia

You’d make a great mortician.

I’ve made my fortune…now I spend it…you sound very judgemental…I do not grieve for all people everywhere that die

310 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:40:07pm

re: #299 Son of the Black Dog

Which would be nothing compared to the hysterical outrage that would have ensued if George Bush had tried to get any personality fired over anything.

BDS is allowable.

311 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:40:09pm

re: #261 coldwarrior

didja ever see the pictures of barry bonds from his first year to his last?
one of the pittsburgh papers had it last summer, its scarry.

pure ‘roids.


in fairness, our bodies do “thicken up” between the ages of 21-35. but our hat sizes don’t usually increase by 35% as BB’s appears to have done.

312 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:40:12pm

This is encouraging…..
Grand ayatollah voices dismay over election, police response


Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri, a leader of the 1979 Islamic revolution who has feuded often with Khamenei and once vied with him for Iran’s top position, released a sharp letter saying that “no one in their right mind can believe” the reported election results.

He denounced the use of violence against protesters. “And now they are attempting a purge, arresting intellectuals, political opponents and (scientists),” he wrote.

Montazeri urged the military and police not to “sell their religion” by crushing the protests.

““And beware that receiving orders will not excuse them before God. Recognize the protesting youth as your children. Today censor and cutting telecommunication lines can not hide the truth,” he said.

313 tradewind  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:40:24pm

Fine…. now where is his apology to the thousands of flight attendants he slimed?

314 jorline  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:40:29pm

re: #306 jorline

68 Shelby Mustang GT

Won’t let me post it…sucks.

315 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:40:31pm

FAQ: How Can I Alleviate Some of the Pressure on My Sensitive Genitals While Sitting at the Computer?
—Ace

[Link: ace.mu.nu…]

You can’t make this shit up?

316 soxfan4life  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:40:33pm

re: #275 _RememberTonyC

Many of the players from the Dominican Republic have been steroids users. Growing up, their diets were far below what American players were used to. And while they had great baseball skills, they were mostly not power hitters. But with the advent of the juice, people like Miguel Tejada went from single digit home run totals to large HR numbers. Sosa, Tejada, Manny Ramirez, and others have since been exposed. I am not making this some sort of anti Dominican rant, so don’t get me wrong. Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro and countless other American born players also cheated. And hopefully baseball is on its way to cleaning up the sport.


Sadly Bud Selig is not the right man for that part of the job.

317 redstateredneck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:40:45pm

re: #306 jorline

68 Shelby Mustang GT

Has it got nekkid women sitting on it? I can’t get it at work, either.

318 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:40:55pm

re: #260 Ben Hur

I’m sure he had to apologize as well.

You really think remarking on someone’s appearance is worse than sexual assault at worse, or calling someone’s daughter a ho at best?

He did eventually apologize after initially denying he said it.

I think a nasty remark on a sitting president’s daughter is pretty bad. Especially since Chelsea probably had some self esteem issues to begin with. Did Letterman actually call her a ho? I didn’t see that.

319 subsailor68  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:40:56pm

re: #295 ladycatnip

Hi ladycatnip!

From your post:

This is not the way to govern; it’s more like ruling. In other countries they call it totalitarianism.

Odd you should post that. I’ve been more and more uncomfortable referring to the people in Washington as “the administration”, or the “Obama administration”.

It seems much more appropriate to refer to it as the “Obama regime.”

320 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:41:15pm

Naked burglar flees home, then wears women’s garb
AP
56 mins ago

GOLDEN, Colo. – Authorities said a naked intruder startled a woman in her home west of Denver, then fled in a sheet to another home where he was discovered wearing women’s clothing. Jefferson County deputies said the first break-in occurred shortly before 7 a.m. Monday. The man fled when the woman screamed.

321 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:41:17pm

re: #307 Ben Hur

APOLOGIZE!

Dear Mr. Ahmadinejad or however the hell you spell it:

I apologize for pointing out that you are a shortshit with a stupid smirk plastered on your face.

Your Friend,
Dave

322 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:41:27pm

re: #306 jorline

68 Shelby Mustang GT

address not found….you are jinxed amigo

323 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:41:28pm

Good for the two of them.

324 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:41:35pm

re: #316 soxfan4life

Sadly Bud Selig is not the right man for that part of the job.

Yeah we need George Mitchell?

325 Eowyn2  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:41:36pm

re: #72 scottishbuzzsaw

A thing of beauty for an open thread.

I’ll see your thing of beauty and raise you two.

Image: vipond_park_lg.jpg

[Link: www.beaverheadriver.com…]

326 badger1970  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:41:40pm

Letterman is still a perverted, old, SOB. Gov. Palin will be the target of ridicule, slander and libel from now to the end of her political career. At least in accepting the apology, she did rub it in a little.

Despite the crappy night, I recommend the movie “Up” for those who haven’t seen it. My daughter who hasn’t sat through an entire movie without a remote control in hand since diapers, sat still and interacted with it for the entire time.

327 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:41:53pm

re: #319 subsailor68

I call ODS.

/worn out by lefties and “Bush regime”

/

328 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:41:57pm

re: #286 avanti

You can’t on one hand say Obama has no effect when he speaks, then say his words are essential on the other. It’s up to the Iranians to decide what to do.
BTW, I tend to agree that he should not declare either one a winner while the result is in dispute.

Strawman.

I have complained repeatedly that Obama has the ability (and gift) to say the words necessary to push things past the tipping point.

He isn’t saying those things.

That is my complaint. There is a simple choice and he is trying to vote present.

Read my posts. I am not contradicting myself and please don’t repaint my words to defend his.

329 coldwarrior  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:42:02pm

re: #288 yochanan

don’t eat yellow snow

words to live by

330 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:42:25pm

re: #301 iceweasel

Very true. He is one scary dude, and most of his ‘church’ are his family members. They’re like a cult.

I hope I’m wrong about this, but I could imagine him deciding to go out one day in a blaze of glory — Jonestown or Waco-like situation. I hope not, but I hope the proper authorities are watching him. I worry about the really little kids you see in that video holding hateful signs.

At least one of Phelps’ son’s got out….

Phelps’ son speaks out

Nate Phelps, 48, describes a violent childhood, in which he alleges his father beat him and his 12 siblings.
331 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:42:29pm

re: #299 Son of the Black Dog

Which would be nothing compared to the hysterical outrage that would have ensued if George Bush had tried to get any personality fired over anything.


Good point. Now that I think about it I don’t recall a serious presidential candidate ever calling for the firing of a comedian or talk show host before. Could this be a new low?

332 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:42:37pm

re: #299 Son of the Black Dog

Which would be nothing compared to the hysterical outrage that would have ensued if George Bush had tried to get any personality fired over anything.

There was hysterical outrage from him breathing.

333 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:42:49pm

re: #298 Ben Hur

100% correct.

Yet only on political party gets called out over it.

I’m not sure about that. People were screaming about the PlayBoy “Hot Conservative Women We’d Like to HateF*ck” list a couple of weeks ago, saying it showed that liberals hate women.

I think it’s a problem that infests both sides of the spectrum. Many criticisms of Palin were misogynist and sexist and were called out for that, just as with Hillary’s campaign. I don’t think the misogyny and sexism got noticed enough—on either side.

334 redstateredneck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:43:09pm

re: #325 Eowyn2

I’ll see your thing of beauty and raise you two.

[Link: www.fs.fed.us…]

[Link: www.beaverheadriver.com…]


I was a little hesitant to click on something called beaverhead.

335 avanti  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:43:19pm

re: #285 FurryOldGuyJeans

New Mormon temple’s angel struck by lightning
Jun. 15, 2009 03:04 PM
Associated Press

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. (Exodus 20:4-6)

336 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:43:22pm

re: #325 Eowyn2

I’ll see your thing of beauty and raise you two.

[Link: www.fs.fed.us…]

[Link: www.beaverheadriver.com…]

So good for the soul…thank you.

337 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:43:24pm

re: #271 unrealizedviewpoint

Salon - WTF do you expect?

You can find the quote in many places. You think the Right will have ever reported on this? Or you think that it was just pulled out of thin air?

338 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:43:30pm

re: #296 Nevergiveup

You don’t think any NBA players ever took Steroids?


it really isn’t helpful for nba guys. being bulked up to such an extent reduces their flexibility and jumping ability, which are far more important than those “popeye” muscles. I have no proof that NO NBA guys have ever done them, but the players I know have all said that it really wouldn’t help improve performance.

339 soxfan4life  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:43:57pm

re: #324 Nevergiveup

Yeah we need George Mitchell?


Only the great commie bastard himself Barack Hussein 0bama. Don’t forget Newsweek ascended him to being a god.

340 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:01pm

re: #322 albusteve

address not found….you are jinxed amigo

Double h t t p in the link delete one…

341 badger1970  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:09pm

re: #256 Fenway_Nation

That was only batting practice /

Who was it that actually stole a corked bat from the umpire’s dressing room by crawling through the vents? I thought it was a gopher for Carlos Beltran, but I could be wrong.

342 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:19pm

re: #318 american sabra

He did eventually apologize after initially denying he said it.

I think a nasty remark on a sitting president’s daughter is pretty bad. Especially since Chelsea probably had some self esteem issues to begin with. Did Letterman actually call her a ho? I didn’t see that.

The word for word was worse.

343 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:26pm

re: #309 albusteve

Medical. Analytical. Not Judgmental. I grieve for all those that die, that we still do not have the scientific means to assist. Especially the young.
: )

344 Wendya  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:30pm

re: #279 solomonpanting

With the result being that businesses will pass the cost to consumers and/or hire fewer employees.

In today’s economy, passing the cost on isn’t particularly feasible.

That’s something a lot of people just don’t “get”. The answer to new government mandates on business isn’t “raise your prices”, particularly when you’re dealing with small businesses. Some of my customers could absorb an increase, some of they can’t.

345 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:33pm

re: #316 soxfan4life

Sadly Bud Selig is not the right man for that part of the job.


Bud is a tool

346 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:47pm

re: #338 _RememberTonyC

it really isn’t helpful for nba guys. being bulked up to such an extent reduces their flexibility and jumping ability, which are far more important than those “popeye” muscles. I have no proof that NO NBA guys have ever done them, but the players I know have all said that it really wouldn’t help improve performance.

OK good to know. I’ll bow to your expertise.

347 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:47pm

re: #335 avanti

Uh, now lightning is going to strike every Catholic crucifix I ever saw?

I’m not on board with the Mormons, but I’m sure ol’Moroni on top of the temple is not an object of worship.

348 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:49pm

re: #317 redstateredneck

Has it got nekkid women sitting on it? I can’t get it at work, either.

this is what he’s drooling over…

[Link: www.seriouswheels.com…]

349 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:57pm

re: #2 Charles

I am awaiting it emitting short pants of expectation.

350 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:44:57pm

sarah comes out smelling like a rose. she stood up for her daughter and young women everywhere. and she backed letterman down on the national stage.
he looks like an asshole for digging in for a week until public pressure forced his hand. i wonder if he even knows what he did wrong. but he sure realized he didn’t like the backlash.
now let him just go back to being a surly inconsequential bitchy grouch,
while sarah’s star continues to rise.

351 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:45:05pm

re: #331 Killgore Trout

Good point. Now that I think about it I don’t recall a serious presidential candidate ever calling for the firing of a comedian or talk show host before. Could this be a new low?

The election is over.

She isn’t a candidate.

For some reason the current president still is.

352 ladycatnip  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:45:16pm

#274 unrealizedviewpoint

From the article you linked at Salon:

Though no tape of McCain’s quip has yet emerged, this is what he reportedly said:

Salon - WTF do you expect?

Thanks, that completely changes the dynamic of this tit-for-tat by those who want to minimize Letterman’s remarks. “No tape has yet emerged…” what a pathetic load of bs.

353 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:45:23pm

Bomb squad blasts suspicious package, find Bible
AP
1 hr 22 mins ago

LEAVENWORTH, Kan. – A bomb squad used a disrupter gun to blast a suspicious package left on the counter of the Leavenworth post office, but only a Bible was found inside. Police said the person who left the package on Friday night took off in a hurry and probably didn’t put enough stamps on it to get it delivered.

354 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:45:27pm

IranElection09:

PLEASE All take care of sources you use, iranian intelligence is full blown on this site spreading misinformation & confusion #iranelection
355 Wendya  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:45:40pm

re: #312 Killgore Trout

This is encouraging…..
Grand ayatollah voices dismay over election, police response

Trying to save his own ass…

356 yochanan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:45:47pm

re: #317 redstateredneck

i did not know the iranian short shit could kill american links too

357 soxfan4life  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:45:53pm

re: #341 badger1970

That was only batting practice /

Who was it that actually stole a corked bat from the umpire’s dressing room by crawling through the vents? I thought it was a gopher for Carlos Beltran, but I could be wrong.


Albert “Joey” Bell

358 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:45:53pm

re: #337 american sabra

You can find the quote in many places. You think the Right will have ever reported on this? Or you think that it was just pulled out of thin air?

Asses are not made of thin air.

359 coldwarrior  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:46:01pm

re: #311 _RememberTonyC

in fairness, our bodies do “thicken up” between the ages of 21-35. but our hat sizes don’t usually increase by 35% as BB’s appears to have done.

i’m looking for the link…i wish i got that HUGE in my late 20’s!

360 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:46:05pm

re: #320 FurryOldGuyJeans

Naked burglar flees home, then wears women’s garb
AP
56 mins ago

Pay no attention to that article, never happened, it was a joke…

361 dingleB  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:46:07pm

The streets in Heaven are guarded my United States Marines so Hospital Corpsman Chaffin can walk in peace.

[Link: www.gainesville.com…]

362 Eowyn2  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:46:08pm

re: #152 WhiteRasta

Whew! Obama calls Nork Nukes a grave threat! Maybe he will threaten to send Krazy Kim a tersely worded note.

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

Extend the unclenched fist.

363 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:46:09pm

re: #346 Nevergiveup

OK good to know. I’ll bow to your expertise.

wait … aren’t YOU the doctor?

364 subsailor68  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:46:18pm

re: #327 OldLineTexan

I call ODS.

/worn out by lefties and “Bush regime”

/

LOL! Okay, maybe I’m a wee bit guilty. Although, it isn’t Obama as a man that I have a problem with. It’s the policies that appear, day-after-day, that I would never have thought possible - ever - here in America.

365 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:46:22pm

re: #349 Shr_Nfr

I am awaiting it emitting short pants of expectation.

“short pants”
that’s what short shit wears.

366 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:46:42pm

re: #353 FurryOldGuyJeans

Bomb squad blasts suspicious package, find Bible
AP
1 hr 22 mins ago

Christians begin seething in 5…4…3…2…1…0…-1…-2…-3…-4…

367 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:46:46pm

re: #281 OldLineTexan

Quit being hysterical.

///

I guess I need to take my shoes off and stand in the kitchen a while. I’ll be back with beer and sandwiches for you. :)

368 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:46:55pm

re: #274 iceweasel

Don’t forget that Rush once said on his TV show that the White House had gotten a new dog— and put up a picture of then 13 yr old Chelsea.

Frankly, this Letterman bit is just the newest evidence that we have some deepseated sexism and misogyny in this country and no one political party has a lock on it.

I completely agree. I always felt bad for Chelsea. Amy Carter went through the same thing, but in far more hushed tones.

Personally, I don’t find Letterman funny, but I don’t listen to late night TV anyway.

I just don’t understand why, when we have really big issues, like the Revolutionary Guard beating the crap out of voters, and we get better news out of twitter and cell phones than we do from the AP about it, this other stuff is really small potatoes.

369 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:47:30pm

re: #360 Walter L. Newton

Pay no attention to that article, never happened, it was a joke…

I was wondering where you were when I read it. ;)

370 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:47:31pm

re: #359 coldwarrior

i’m looking for the link…i wish i got that HUGE in my late 20’s!


dude … I believe he DID the juice. I’m just saying that we look thicker at age 35 than we do at 21. But not THAT much thicker unless there is cheating.

371 iLikeCandy  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:47:32pm

Has it been said already? (I read over only the first 100 comments.)

I don’t think Palin’s fight was trivial. I think it was worth having. No one ever said it’s more important than pressing national matters, or “paused” in the midst of important national business such that we can now “move on.”

This particular exchange may have been overexposed or overhyped, but that shouldn’t diminish the seriousness of the basic issue. Our society’s sexual exploitation of teenage girls is a bad thing, not a strawman.

372 jorline  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:47:37pm

re: #340 jcm

Double h t t p in the link delete one…

I deleted one and it still didn’t work…another day.

373 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:47:39pm

re: #364 subsailor68

LOL! Okay, maybe I’m a wee bit guilty. Although, it isn’t Obama as a man that I have a problem with. It’s the policies that appear, day-after-day, that I would never have thought possible - ever - here in America.

Say three “Hail Barrys” and all is forgiven.

/

/btw, stay away from crucifixes … lightning

374 redstateredneck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:48:00pm

re: #348 albusteve

this is what he’s drooling over…

[Link: www.seriouswheels.com…]

mr hightechredneck would love one of those, but he’s already got enough toys that he could potentially die in now.

375 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:48:02pm

re: #340 jcm

Double h t t p in the link delete one…

I did…the http comes back…no pic

376 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:48:13pm

re: #347 OldLineTexan

He isn’t. I do not have much truck with people that put religious gunk all over their walls, cars, and so forth. It seems a bit too much like idolatry to me. But if people use it as a visual clue to worship who they should, who am I to argue.

377 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:48:24pm

gotta hit the road …. so long friends … BBL I hope

378 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:48:26pm

re: #367 iceweasel

It’s a reference to an earlier post.

/but sandwiches sound good

379 Eowyn2  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:48:59pm

re: #334 redstateredneck

I was a little hesitant to click on something called beaverhead.

up the beaverhead river without a paddle.

380 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:50:04pm

It is funny (ironic) how the Left wants to down play Letterman’s idiocy, can anyone imagine the reaction if Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Dennis Miller, or Rush Limbaugh ever said something disgusting like that about a Liberals daughter being raped?

381 jorline  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:50:47pm

re: #375 albusteve

I did…the http comes back…no pic

Try this.

382 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:50:53pm

Now that is one cute li’l bugger!

Kitten dropped, discovered in Boston city mailbox
AP
1 hr 22 mins ago

BOSTON – Officials said a two-pound, eight-week-old kitten was dropped in a public mailbox in Boston and later found unharmed among envelopes and packages. According to the MSPCA Animal Care and Adoption Center, the kitten they’re calling “Postina” likely was stuffed Friday through a small opening of the mailbox and dropped several feet below.

383 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:51:03pm

re: #291 Joel

What’s the matter with you? Gap tooth was talking about being statuorily raped by a baseball player! Also Alex Rodriguez should get an apology as well. There is a difference between being called ugly and being the butt of a rape joke. Btw Hillary did complain when Saturday Night Live made fun of Chelsea’s looks in comparison to the Gore children.

First, 18 is not stautory. He said he didn’t know Willow was at the game with her mother. I have no idea if any of that is true or not.

This is what he said, “One awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game, during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.” “Knocked up” doesn’t equate with rape, btw.

384 solomonpanting  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:51:12pm

re: #373 OldLineTexan

Say three “Hail Barrys” and all is forgiven.

/


I’d rather say three Halle Barrys.

385 jorline  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:51:16pm

re: #381 jorline

Try this.

Works

386 jcm  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:51:23pm

re: #360 Walter L. Newton

Pay no attention to that article, never happened, it was a joke…

Checking smoking gun for mug shot………

387 Silvergirl  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:52:14pm

re: #147 Dianna

I loved her use of the word “evolve”.

/

Letterman as Neanderthal. It suits him. Wait. Sorry, cavemen.

388 Eowyn2  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:52:59pm

re: #366 OldLineTexan

Christians begin seething in 5…4…3…2…1…0…-1…-2…-3…-4…

riots in the streets!

389 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:53:23pm

re: #337 american sabra

You can find the quote in many places. You think the Right will have ever reported on this? Or you think that it was just pulled out of thin air?

The Salon article you directed us to does not provide any evidence (at all) that it happened. Around here we work with evidence. That Salon article is nothing more than an absolute hit piece on John McCain. Stating that the quote is found many pieces doesn’t cut it either. I can quote you saying you said something and then FBV can repeat it, but that certainly doesn’t prove it happened. Bring evidence, not Hearsay.

390 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:53:39pm

re: #368 american sabra

Here is a short list of just some of the crap that has been thrown at Palin and Chelsea, which no one made a big deal over:

0) Last September, a skit on Saturday Night Live suggested incest in the Palin family. “What about the husband?” asked a mock Times reporter. “You know he’s doing those daughters. I mean, come on. It’s Alaska!” No outrage. Sarah Palin appeared on the show one month later in late October.

9) Days after the announcement of Bristol’s pregnancy, Conan O’Brien joked, “It’s true, John McCain’s running mate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, has revealed that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant. Palin said, ‘We should never have introduced her to John Edwards.’” Where was the outrage? Was Conan promoting infidelity with an underage girl?

8 ) From two different Tonight Shows: “Governor Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. Oh, boy, you thought John Edwards was in trouble before, now he’s really done it!” AND…”All the Republicans are heaping praise on Governor Palin. Fred Thompson said, as an actor, he could see them making a movie about Sarah Palin and her family. Didn’t they already make that movie? I think it was called ‘Knocked Up!’”—Jay Leno

7) Craig Ferguson’s skit of “Larry King vs Levi Johnston” asks about “kinky sex” with the drapes open. Craig Ferguson’s honorary Alaska citizenship, granted by Governor Palin wasn’t rescinded.

6) “According to expense reports, Sarah Palin charged the state of Alaska over $21,000 for her children to travel with her on official business. In fairness to Gov. Palin, when she leaves them home alone they get pregnant.” —Seth Meyers (SNL). Sarah Palin was in a sketch with Meyers a week earlier.

5) On October 8, 2008, Sarah Palin walked out on the ice with six year old Piper and 13 year old Willow, before the game, Conan O’Brien said, “Saturday night, Sarah Palin is going to drop the first puck at the Philadelphia Flyers’ hockey game. Then Palin will spend the rest of the game trying to keep the hockey players out of her daughter’s penalty box.”
Oh, yes he did. You get the outrage…but not a peep then. According to the new “logic”, O’Brien was advocating for some really sick stuff.

4) Rush Limbaugh: “Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?” Limbaugh put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. At the time, Chelsea Clinton was 13 years old. Rush also said, “In last year’s campaign, the most prominent, articulate voice for standard run-of-the-mill good old-fashioned American conservatism was Sarah Palin.” Calling a young teenager a “dog” can’t be helpful to her “self-esteem.” Where is the apology from the leader of the GOP?

3) “Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”—John McCain, Sarah Palin’s running mate. Should McCain apologize to every young woman in America?

We’re long overdue for a discussion about misogyny and sexism in this country. Personally, I would like all these things to be called out for what they are when they happen— instead of any of us pretending that only one side of the political spectrum is infected with them.

391 SixDegrees  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:54:05pm

re: #226 subsailor68

I really wish Obama would stop talking about health care. That’s not what he’s trying to get passed. He wants universal health insurance.

As others have said here, access to health care is rarely the issue (although I understand there are some rural areas where it’s more difficult than in metro areas). It’s the cost.

Okay, so Obama spends trillions to insure those who currently don’t have health insurance. Whether they want it or not.

So what’s the problem? He’ll bankrupt the system, just as politicians have already done to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. To attempt to stave that off, he’ll be forced to ration not health care per se, but reimbursement for certain tests, services, and so forth.

But what does that mean? The quality and availability of health care in the U.S. will plummet not in spite of, but because of, the actions he’s proposing to take.

This is madness.

Actually, he isn’t even talking about insurance. Insurance provides coverage based on assessed risk, and rates vary according to that risk. What 0bama is proposing is universal coverage. Everyone receives the same (shitty) level of care (think ‘VA Hospital System’ on a national scale), and rates are determined by politics, not risk. Your coverage may be reduced if you have some politically incorrect disease, like Type II diabetes brought on by being overweight. Or your rates will go up as you make more money, based on a percentage of your income that increases along with your compensation.

His proposal has nothing at all to do with insurance.

392 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:54:17pm

re: #383 american sabra

First, 18 is not stautory. He said he didn’t know Willow was at the game with her mother. I have no idea if any of that is true or not.

This is what he said, “One awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game, during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.” “Knocked up” doesn’t equate with rape, btw.

Well then fire your stupid “comedy” writers, as for knocking up Bristol that makes the joke kosher? Bristol was not at the game and he said her daughter got knocked up during the 7th inning stretch. Also don’t forget the racist insult to Rodriguez - yeah Dominican guy knocks up white girl. Letterman is a f*****

393 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:54:37pm

re: #389 unrealizedviewpoint

The McCain comment did happen; it was widely reported. There doesn’t happen to be video of it.

394 Silvergirl  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:54:49pm

re: #383 american sabra

First, 18 is not stautory. He said he didn’t know Willow was at the game with her mother. I have no idea if any of that is true or not.

This is what he said, “One awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game, during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.” “Knocked up” doesn’t equate with rape, btw.

If you’re talking about a grown man having sex with a minor, especially in a “joke” at the expense of said minor, I’ll gladly give “knocked up” a pass as being equal to rape.

395 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:54:56pm

Look what Letterman said was in bad taste. No doubt about it. I’m just saying that spending a week of news on the subject is ridiculous and boring. All it did was give Letterman more ratings which is what he wanted in the first place.

Palin wants to play with the big boys does she? She’s going to have to get over herself then. Her children will be in the spotlight, subjected to a lot more nasty comments than this if she wants to be prez.

Whiny pansy asses.

396 avanti  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:55:01pm

re: #347 OldLineTexan

Uh, now lightning is going to strike every Catholic crucifix I ever saw?

I’m not on board with the Mormons, but I’m sure ol’Moroni on top of the temple is not an object of worship.

I was thinking of the early Protestants trashing the Catholic churches symbols of worship as violating the commandment. even Christ on the cross was considered to be breaking the commandment. No slam against Mormon statues in particular.

397 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:55:58pm

re: #389 unrealizedviewpoint

The Salon article you directed us to does not provide any evidence (at all) that it happened. Around here we work with evidence. That Salon article is nothing more than an absolute hit piece on John McCain. Stating that the quote is found many pieces doesn’t cut it either. I can quote you saying you said something and then FBV can repeat it, but that certainly doesn’t prove it happened. Bring evidence, not Hearsay.

Whatever, fine. Don’t believe it. If you don’t want to look, I don’t care.

Chelsea was constantly made fun of for not being a beautiful child. Maybe you’re too young to remember it, but I’m not. THAT was my point.

398 ladycatnip  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:56:31pm

#319 subsailor68

Odd you should post that. I’ve been more and more uncomfortable referring to the people in Washington as “the administration”, or the “Obama administration”.

It seems much more appropriate to refer to it as the “Obama regime.”

You got that right. I think all the rhetoric during Bush’s 8 years - fascist, Nazi, BushHitler - has inured the public to the actual thing. We’ve got the real deal here: seizing, take-overs, nationalizing auto industry, firing CEO of private industry, trying to nationalize health care, illegal firing of an inspector general to cover-up Americorps abuse of government money, media broadcasting in the WH. The handwriting on the wall is in bold, block letters.

399 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:56:35pm

re: #381 jorline

Try this.

awright Jorline!…haha!….cool car…
and 2pts for persistance!

400 Jimmah  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:56:36pm

British Islamism’s Black Knight Strikes Again

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org…]

It’s Britain’s Islamist Mr Bean lookalike Inayat Bunglawala trying to discredit the anti-Islamist ‘Quilliam’ thinktank, on the most flimsy grounds imaginable, and exposing his own dishonesty and desperation in the process. And yes, this article does end up with a Monty Python clip.

401 horse  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:57:16pm

re: #263 Killgore Trout

Agreed. I can’t help think about the hysterical outrage if Obama was trying to get a comedian fired for telling a political joke. It’s just stupid but a lot of people find it an exiting and invigorating thing to do.

One flaw in your comment is it was not a political joke. Another flaw is she was not trying to get him fired. With those little facts, your comment falls apart. I believe the Obama’s would take great offense and expect an apology and other repercussions if any public figure said something similar about their daughters, and I would support them in that expectation.

402 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:57:28pm

re: #383 american sabra

The term is “Stautory Rape”, as in sex with a minor. Stop moving goal posts and raising straw men. At least Avanti gets his facts straight and will make good posts occasionally.

403 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:57:30pm

re: #392 Joel

Well then fire your stupid “comedy” writers, as for knocking up Bristol that makes the joke kosher? Bristol was not at the game and he said her daughter got knocked up during the 7th inning stretch. Also don’t forget the racist insult to Rodriguez - yeah Dominican guy knocks up white girl. Letterman is a f*****

OH PLEASE. Racist now? LOL I didn’t see that one coming at all, but there ya go!

Read up thread. I said it was in poor taste. That wasn’t my point. I’ll say it again WE DON’T NEED TO SPEND A WEEK OF NEWS ON IT.

404 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:57:39pm

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405 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:57:45pm

re: #395 american sabra

Look what Letterman said was in bad taste. No doubt about it. I’m just saying that spending a week of news on the subject is ridiculous and boring. All it did was give Letterman more ratings which is what he wanted in the first place.

Palin wants to play with the big boys does she? She’s going to have to get over herself then. Her children will be in the spotlight, subjected to a lot more nasty comments than this if she wants to be prez.

Whiny pansy asses.

Compassionate liberalism on display.

406 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:58:55pm

re: #390 iceweasel

Here is a short list of just some of the crap that has been thrown at Palin and Chelsea, which no one made a big deal over:

We’re long overdue for a discussion about misogyny and sexism in this country. Personally, I would like all these things to be called out for what they are when they happen— instead of any of us pretending that only one side of the political spectrum is infected with them.

your efforts would be better served if you started your discussion in terms of SA for example

407 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:59:51pm

re: #395 american sabra

Look what Letterman said was in bad taste. No doubt about it. I’m just saying that spending a week of news on the subject is ridiculous and boring. All it did was give Letterman more ratings which is what he wanted in the first place.

Palin wants to play with the big boys does she? She’s going to have to get over herself then. Her children will be in the spotlight, subjected to a lot more nasty comments than this if she wants to be prez.

Whiny pansy asses.

So Obama’s daughters are fair game?

I mean, I can make jokes about Spitzer stalking them for sex?

Or LeBron taking them into a locker room?

AWESOME!

408 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:00:11pm

re: #403 american sabra

OH PLEASE. Racist now? LOL I didn’t see that one coming at all, but there ya go!

Read up thread. I said it was in poor taste. That wasn’t my point. I’ll say it again WE DON’T NEED TO SPEND A WEEK OF NEWS ON IT.

we did not spend a week of news on it, the media did. I wish that Todd Palin would create an even bigger gap in daves mouth with his fist. Of course if Limbaugh made a joke like that in a few years about Sasha and Melia gtting knocked up at half-time by Kobe Bryant or LeBron James you would want him hanged.

409 coldwarrior  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:00:37pm

re: #370 _RememberTonyC

dude … I believe he DID the juice. I’m just saying that we look thicker at age 35 than we do at 21. But not THAT much thicker unless there is cheating.

i know, we do get thicker.

the thing with these pictures is his forearms and his face, mainly his forehead.

i put on 20 pounds since i got out of the army 20 yrs ago, but my arms are the same size, and my skull structure hasn’t changed (much), i just hope BB doesn’t get into the mlb hof on first vote. he is an ass.

410 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:00:39pm

re: #403 american sabra

OH PLEASE. Racist now? LOL I didn’t see that one coming at all, but there ya go!

Read up thread. I said it was in poor taste. That wasn’t my point. I’ll say it again WE DON’T NEED TO SPEND A WEEK OF NEWS ON IT.


Motek, who is WE?

You can change the channel.
You can change the station.
You can go to a different site.

411 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:01:01pm

re: #395 american sabra

Look what Letterman said was in bad taste. No doubt about it. I’m just saying that spending a week of news on the subject is ridiculous and boring. All it did was give Letterman more ratings which is what he wanted in the first place.

Palin wants to play with the big boys does she? She’s going to have to get over herself then. Her children will be in the spotlight, subjected to a lot more nasty comments than this if she wants to be prez.

Whiny pansy asses.

I don’t even like your attitude…you sucketh

412 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:01:40pm

re: #390 iceweasel

Here is a short list of just some of the crap that has been thrown at Palin and Chelsea, which no one made a big deal over:

We’re long overdue for a discussion about misogyny and sexism in this country. Personally, I would like all these things to be called out for what they are when they happen— instead of any of us pretending that only one side of the political spectrum is infected with them.

I agree, but it seems the less attention drawn to it is probably the better way of dealing with it. We are a sexual society. It’s both good and bad, I suppose and this is probably a natural outpouring of that.

413 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:01:40pm

re: #205 Shr_Nfr

She should have buried in that thing on top of his neck.

That is the old Stanford/Cal fight song, “Give’m the axe … where? Right in the neck, the neck, the neck, …”

414 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:01:42pm

re: #407 Ben Hur

We posted virtually the same time the same thing!

415 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:01:46pm

re: #397 american sabra

Whatever, fine. Don’t believe it. If you don’t want to look, I don’t care.

Chelsea was constantly made fun of for not being a beautiful child. Maybe you’re too young to remember it, but I’m not. THAT was my point.

I call you on your lack of evidence because you provide a farleft link as your proof and this is your reply. Nice!

416 albusteve  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:02:23pm

dirty thread…gonna boogie out before I get pissy

417 subsailor68  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:02:28pm

re: #391 SixDegrees

Actually, he isn’t even talking about insurance. Insurance provides coverage based on assessed risk, and rates vary according to that risk. What 0bama is proposing is universal coverage. Everyone receives the same (shitty) level of care (think ‘VA Hospital System’ on a national scale), and rates are determined by politics, not risk. Your coverage may be reduced if you have some politically incorrect disease, like Type II diabetes brought on by being overweight. Or your rates will go up as you make more money, based on a percentage of your income that increases along with your compensation.

His proposal has nothing at all to do with insurance.

Hi SixDegrees! Another good point. Coverage is a better term, but I guess people think of the terms as synonymous (as in “insurance coverage”) even though, as you note, it really isn’t the same thing.

418 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:02:35pm

re: #394 Silvergirl

If you’re talking about a grown man having sex with a minor, especially in a “joke” at the expense of said minor, I’ll gladly give “knocked up” a pass as being equal to rape.

He was supposed talking about Bristol, not Willow.

419 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:02:51pm

re: #410 Ben Hur

The Left does not like it when the term “racist” is hurled back at them! Ha!

420 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:03:00pm

re: #406 albusteve

your efforts would be better served if you started your discussion in terms of SA for example

What’s SA?

421 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:03:28pm

re: #414 Joel

We posted virtually the same time the same thing!


Weird.

422 Silvergirl  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:03:56pm

re: #390 iceweasel

Here is a short list of just some of the crap that has been thrown at Palin and Chelsea, which no one made a big deal over:

We’re long overdue for a discussion about misogyny and sexism in this country. Personally, I would like all these things to be called out for what they are when they happen— instead of any of us pretending that only one side of the political spectrum is infected with them.

I know you didn’t include the MSNBC guy announcing that Chelsea was being pimped out for her mother’s campaign, since kind of a big deal was made of it, but in my estimation, not enough of a big deal. On several blogs I read I was staggered at the numbers of comments supporting the “no biggie” premise. As far as I know, that man is still doing his thing at MSNBC after his two weeks of standing in the corner. Did he ever apologize even?

423 redstateredneck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:04:07pm

re: #418 american sabra

He was supposed talking about Bristol, not Willow.

Yeah, the 18 year old “legal” one. It was a bad joke either way.

424 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:04:20pm

re: #412 american sabra

I agree, but it seems the less attention drawn to it is probably the better way of dealing with it. We are a sexual society. It’s both good and bad, I suppose and this is probably a natural outpouring of that.

Sorry, there I have to disagree with you. We’re a sexual society but that doesn’t mean we have to be a sexist society.

425 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:04:20pm

re: #418 american sabra

He was supposed talking about Bristol, not Willow.

Yeah, that’s what he said. Other wise he’s saying is that he’s clueless and didn’t check the facts of the matter. Which makes it even worse if you think about it. We was just trying to slander the governor and poke fun at her daughters.

426 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:04:23pm

re: #421 Ben Hur

Weird.

even used LeBron James!

427 Dianna  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:04:36pm

Why is this topic being rehashed yet again?

He’s apologized. She’s accepted.

Palin used the word “evolved” in context.

Can we bloody well get over it? I thought it was nasty, I thought Letterman should have apologized before he did, but I’m glad he’s done it.

Now I don’t care any more, and would like to see this idiocy about who’s more misogynist dropped. Because, bluntly, I am well aware already that a lot of men don’t like women, and a lot of women don’t like other women, either. Whoopee.

Get over it.

428 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:04:38pm

Shhhh…..

Conan O’Brian made an anti-Semitic joke this week on air.

Really.

About Jewish women not wanting to have sex. (You know the stereotype.)

The BEST thing we can do is NOT TALK ABOUT IT!

429 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:05:27pm

Anyway, I am moving up blog. just going to be applying GAZE to another troll wannabe.

430 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:05:59pm

Letterman’s audience that laughed at the joke is as dumb as he is, a bunch of sheeple. Can anyone imagine Johnny Carson saying something like that?

431 avanti  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:06:17pm

re: #402 BlueCanuck

The term is “Stautory Rape”, as in sex with a minor. Stop moving goal posts and raising straw men. At least Avanti gets his facts straight and will make good posts occasionally.

Well, since my name came up, I tend to believe Letterman did not mean the minor daughter, but simply got the daughter at the game wrong so no rape of any kind was intended. BTW, unlike the comments at the hockey game posted earlier that passed without comment. I won’t defend any of the jokes in poor taste, but it it worth a weeks debate with all the crap going on in the world ?

432 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:06:21pm

re: #419 Joel

The Left does not like it when the term “racist” is hurled back at them! Ha!

Racist is borderline.

I mean, it would 100% be deemed racist if it wasn’t a leftists making the joke.

Then all the humanities majors would scream about the ol’ stereotypes of “there coming for our women” which for some reason only Republicans worry about, yet Libs never want to live near.

433 ladycatnip  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:06:30pm

#418 american sabra

He was supposed talking about Bristol, not Willow.

Oh. So then his perverted and sick remarks would have been ok?

434 Why I Never!  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:06:54pm

re: #422 Silvergirl

I know you didn’t include the MSNBC guy announcing that Chelsea was being pimped out for her mother’s campaign, since kind of a big deal was made of it, but in my estimation, not enough of a big deal. On several blogs I read I was staggered at the numbers of comments supporting the “no biggie” premise. As far as I know, that man is still doing his thing at MSNBC after his two weeks of standing in the corner. Did he ever apologize even?

You’re right; I didn’t even include that comment and I completely agree with you that more attention should have been drawn to that as well. Would that comment have been made if Chelsea weren’t female? I don’t remember anyone saying Mitt Romney was “pimping out” his sons on the campaign trail, and the fact that we can’t even imagine such a comment being made about adult male children is a pretty damn huge red flag that this is about sexism.

I think he did offer some lame half-assed apology—but most people seemed to think it was all faux-outrage by the left.

435 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:08:22pm
“Political experts say that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to endorse what he calls a two-state solution for Israelis and Palestinians to live side by side but have no contact,” he said. Ba-dump.

“Netanyahu said it will be exactly like being married to a Jewish woman.” Ba-dump-bump.

[Link: www.nypost.com…]


Shhhh…..It will go away…..

436 coldwarrior  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:08:39pm

re: #411 albusteve

I don’t even like your attitude…you sucketh

verily.

437 Silvergirl  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:09:23pm

re: #427 Dianna

Why is this topic being rehashed yet again?

He’s apologized. She’s accepted.

Palin used the word “evolved” in context.

Can we bloody well get over it? I thought it was nasty, I thought Letterman should have apologized before he did, but I’m glad he’s done it.

Now I don’t care any more, and would like to see this idiocy about who’s more misogynist dropped. Because, bluntly, I am well aware already that a lot of men don’t like women, and a lot of women don’t like other women, either. Whoopee.

Get over it.

Sometimes people are just in the mood for hashing and rehashing. Sometimes a thread turns in puns, sometimes boobs. You know. Open thread.

438 Joel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:09:23pm

re: #422 Silvergirl

I know you didn’t include the MSNBC guy announcing that Chelsea was being pimped out for her mother’s campaign, since kind of a big deal was made of it, but in my estimation, not enough of a big deal. On several blogs I read I was staggered at the numbers of comments supporting the “no biggie” premise. As far as I know, that man is still doing his thing at MSNBC after his two weeks of standing in the corner. Did he ever apologize even?

That was David Shuster, who plays plays Robin to Keith Olbermann’s Batman on MSNBC.

439 SummerSong  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:11:13pm

“But the joke really, in and of itself, can’t be defended.”

Really? I ask because I saw all kinds of people on TV defending it.

440 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:15:26pm

re: #439 SummerSong

“But the joke really, in and of itself, can’t be defended.”

Really? I ask because I saw all kinds of people on TV defending it.

Shhh, nobody wants to hear that.

/

441 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:16:53pm

re: #395 american sabra

Look what Letterman said was in bad taste. No doubt about it. I’m just saying that spending a week of news on the subject is ridiculous and boring. All it did was give Letterman more ratings which is what he wanted in the first place.

Palin wants to play with the big boys does she? She’s going to have to get over herself then. Her children will be in the spotlight, subjected to a lot more nasty comments than this if she wants to be prez.

Whiny pansy asses.

imagine if a conservative had joked abt. statutory or any rape of one of o’s daughters.
it is not abt. sarah palin opting to play w/ the big boys. it is not abt. sarah palin at all.
.
it is abt. a fcking maniacal leftist asshole joking abt. rape of someone’s daughter and demeaning young girls everywhere.

442 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:16:58pm

re: #422 Silvergirl

I know you didn’t include the MSNBC guy announcing that Chelsea was being pimped out for her mother’s campaign, since kind of a big deal was made of it, but in my estimation, not enough of a big deal. On several blogs I read I was staggered at the numbers of comments supporting the “no biggie” premise. As far as I know, that man is still doing his thing at MSNBC after his two weeks of standing in the corner. Did he ever apologize even?

I never got the “pimped out” thing. Chelsea is a grown, adult woman. She was helping her mother. What was wrong with that?

Palin brought all of her children with her on the campaign trail. Nothing wrong with that either. Well the young ones probably could have used more sleep…. but I don’t consider that exploitation anymore than Chelsea.

443 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:21:55pm

re: #428 Ben Hur

Shhhh…..

Conan O’Brian made an anti-Semitic joke this week on air.

Really.

About Jewish women not wanting to have sex. (You know the stereotype.)

The BEST thing we can do is NOT TALK ABOUT IT!

If Conan O’Brian said that, it’s pretty mundane and as a Jew, I probably would have laughed anyway. Or maybe you never saw any Mel Brooks films like Blazing Saddles. You think that movie could ever be made today? No way.

Of course, now you’re going to acuse me of saying that Letterman’s joke was humorous. It was NOT. Letterman ain’t no Mel Brooks.

But as an aside, you really know how to twist a phase and put words in my mouth.

444 american sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:22:37pm

I have to dash. I’ll be back later for your enjoyment :)

445 nyc redneck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:23:50pm

re: #418 american sabra

He was supposed talking about Bristol, not Willow.

why does that make it ok, to you.
do you not see that the leftist skank letterman thought he would get away w/ the
vicious remark abt. a young woman?
it is rape whether the girl is 14 or 18.
i’m glad people have slammed the schmuck bastard to the point of making him apologize.
but notice he was dragged kicking and screaming to that point.

446 Silvergirl  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:25:59pm

re: #445 nyc redneck

why does that make it ok, to you.
do you not see that the leftist skank letterman thought he would get away w/ the
vicious remark abt. a young woman?
it is rape whether the girl is 14 or 18.
i’m glad people have slammed the schmuck bastard to the point of making him apologize.
but notice he was dragged kicking and screaming to that point.

I’m also glad. And I did notice.

447 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:29:12pm

re: #443 american sabra

If Conan O’Brian said that, it’s pretty mundane and as a Jew, I probably would have laughed anyway. Or maybe you never saw any Mel Brooks films like Blazing Saddles. You think that movie could ever be made today? No way.

Of course, now you’re going to acuse me of saying that Letterman’s joke was humorous. It was NOT. Letterman ain’t no Mel Brooks.

But as an aside, you really know how to twist a phase and put words in my mouth.

Mel Brooks films don’t present ugly stereotypes of Jews.

448 Silvergirl  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:31:00pm

re: #442 american sabra

I never got the “pimped out” thing. Chelsea is a grown, adult woman. She was helping her mother. What was wrong with that?

Palin brought all of her children with her on the campaign trail. Nothing wrong with that either. Well the young ones probably could have used more sleep…. but I don’t consider that exploitation anymore than Chelsea.

Exactly right about Chelsea. Right about Palin too. Same with the Obama children. I didn’t hear anyone berating Michelle’s mothering or Barack’s fathering skills or bemoaning the fact that those girls were missing school, losing sleep, etc. The fact that you don’t consider it exploitation likely puts you in the minority. I’m with you in that minority.

449 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:32:01pm

re: #443 american sabra

If Conan O’Brian said that, it’s pretty mundane and as a Jew, I probably would have laughed anyway. Or maybe you never saw any Mel Brooks films like Blazing Saddles. You think that movie could ever be made today? No way.

Of course, now you’re going to acuse me of saying that Letterman’s joke was humorous. It was NOT. Letterman ain’t no Mel Brooks.

But as an aside, you really know how to twist a phase and put words in my mouth.

I didn’t put anything in your mouth (now that we’ve established that that kind of humor is acceptable)

I agree, but it seems the less attention drawn to it is probably the better way of dealing with it.


Those are your words.

450 hazzyday  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:32:18pm

I think one thing the last election revealed is that there is a deep seated misogyny still in America. Most of it unconscious. I didn’t really believe it until I habited the puma forums and watched the Hilary pounding that they were looking at. And then all the irrational hate that bubbles up about Sarah Palin. And that is mostly because she represents family values that the irrational people fear she will try and implement. It’s unproven and probably proven that she wouldn’t.

It’s unwise to have sympathy for the (D) daughters and then go sling at the (R) mother because of jokes about the (R) daughters and tell her to just live with it since she is famous.

Letterman here was letting the media do the daughter age carrying for him. He made the general joke and let the media supply the age. He would have said Bristol by name if he meant that. He’s said her name before. He meant to live it “fill in the blank” to cause as much pain as he possibly could to a woman and her family that he doesn’t like. His excuses here are just a lot of backpedaling.

He is no different then the picture of the Old Iranian man pointing his cane at the young woman fallen on the streets of Tehran. In fact he is the same.

McCain is old navy. All the jokes he has are going to be gross navy jokes. When I was in the military there was a constant marching tune about hitting on women 8-80. You didn’t really think about it much. But today it’s inappropriate given what we know about sex offenders. We don’t want people programmed with the ideas that it’s ok to treat women badly and have sex with them when they are underage. Letterman’s joke is the dirty old man whispering to you… “It’s ok to talk about it” Millions of people heard him, there will be some that think it’s cool and politically correct.

I recommend that he serve as a page for the Governor and get to learn what good manners mean.

451 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:33:06pm

re: #447 Ben Hur

Mel Brooks films don’t present ugly stereotypes of Jews.


And his films satorize (is that a word?) racism and hate to the point where the hate itself is absurd.

452 Ben Hur  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:34:02pm
If Conan O’Brian said that, it’s pretty mundane and as a Jew, I probably would have laughed anyway.

And that might be something you’d want to remedy.

453 hazzyday  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:39:24pm

As far as late night talk show hosts Conan was one of the most offensive regarding sexual perversions. The skits with his announcer were atrocious jokes about bestiality. Leno has his issues also. He was always grooming underage starlets to be careful of creepy old men. He has a sort of Robert Heinlein approach to old men and young women.

454 Sunlight  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:43:48pm

re: #430 Joel

Letterman’s audience that laughed at the joke is as dumb as he is, a bunch of sheeple. Can anyone imagine Johnny Carson saying something like that?

Bunch of lowlifes now.

455 kynna  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 2:47:56pm

It may seem unimportant in light of the other events going on around the world, but the perpetual shrugging off of sexist comments by politicians and entertainers is exactly why we may never have a woman president. And, as a woman … yeah, that pisses me off.

456 Buck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:03:49pm

re: #90 jill e

I once got tickets to Letterman (1990) and a friend and I drove cross country, 1100 miles in 18 hours (we got the tickets in the mail just 2 weeks before the show date). I think Mike Wallace and Phil Hartman were guests. Letterman came out to talk to the crowd before the show and he was really quite charming.

Amazing what 20 years can do in making someone a crotchety old guy…

For me it was about 14 years ago. I just remember how bloody cold the theater was. Also the guest was Kelsey Grammer, and he was plastered. So drunk they kept waking him up just before the commercials ended.

Oh ya, I also remember Dave was smoking cigars, and people stood around just before the commercial break ended with fans blowing the smoke away.

After 9/11 I could separate absolutely everyone into two camps. I call them 9/10 and 9/12.

Despite being in NY, and being a witness, Dave is 9/10.

457 Buck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:07:12pm

re: #246 american sabra

Remind me again why this was news for 5 days?


It is strictly due to what happened to Don Imus.

458 Buck  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:10:25pm

re: #447 Ben Hur

Mel Brooks films don’t present ugly stereotypes of Jews.

Just Women, Blacks, Natives, germans (WW1 and 2)…..Oh and overly flamboyant males.

459 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:18:03pm

re: #433 ladycatnip

#418 american sabra


Oh. So then his perverted and sick remarks would have been ok?

Suuure…it is TOTALLY ok to make this kind of joke…about Republicans…and only if you are “tolerant” left…///

460 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:18:32pm

re: #457 Buck

It is strictly due to what happened to Don Imus.

and what did not happen to Letterman

461 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:20:09pm

re: #455 kynna

It may seem unimportant in light of the other events going on around the world, but the perpetual shrugging off of sexist comments by politicians and entertainers is exactly why we may never have a woman president. And, as a woman … yeah, that pisses me off.

and the fact that so many women piled up on this crap too…attacked her for the charges that proved to be false…and ridiculed her for comments she never made…remember the SNL “joke” about Todd Palin fathering Bristol’s kid? Fuuuuunnnnyyyyyyy///

462 ladycatnip  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:23:03pm

#459 Disturbed Ema

Suuure…it is TOTALLY ok to make this kind of joke…about Republicans…and only if you are “tolerant” left…///

Liberals = the most tolerant people on the planet.

/ not

463 notutopia  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:24:34pm

re: #278 soxfan4life

A guy on the radio here in boston was talking about his misuse of the word crisis. Health care is not a crisis in America as we have the best system in the world, at least until FCBBHO gets done with it.

Government never wastes a good “Crisis”.
Even if you have to fabricate one.

464 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:30:13pm

Thank God. I will now be able to sleep again.

465 FrogMarch  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:38:47pm

Money talks. Uber-libs listen.
Dave grew some shame after sponsors threatened to pull their ads.

466 FrogMarch  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:40:07pm

pop culture swirling down the toilet is never really pressing. but when someone like Letterman, who has maybe millions of viewers, offends so many - it’s not nothing.

467 American Sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:43:31pm

re: #424 iceweasel

Sorry, there I have to disagree with you. We’re a sexual society but that doesn’t mean we have to be a sexist society.

Of course you’re right. I’m not expressing myself as I would like to. If I’m giving the impression at all that what Letterman said was acceptable, it isn’t. I’m not sure how many times I can say that.

I’m just irritated that this is being made into a mountain when it shouldn’t be. Are we going to take every bad joke from a comedian and do this? There are so many horrible comedians making racist and sexist jokes. Why pick this one?

468 American Sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:45:47pm

re: #445 nyc redneck

why does that make it ok, to you.
do you not see that the leftist skank letterman thought he would get away w/ the
vicious remark abt. a young woman?
it is rape whether the girl is 14 or 18.
i’m glad people have slammed the schmuck bastard to the point of making him apologize.
but notice he was dragged kicking and screaming to that point.

I don’t like Letterman. I don’t think he’s funny, way before this, I didn’t think he was funny. But I don’t think he said anything about rape.

469 ihateronpaul  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:56:10pm

Yes, this was out of line. In the context of comedy, comedy has no limits, or political correctness. However, involving a minor in a crude joke was out of line. I don’t particularly like Sarah Palin but Dave took it too far here.


A TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE

“All that aside, Limbaugh’s recent remarks directed at two Sept. 11 widows veer so far off his worn propaganda path that they bypass his “insensitive and inappropriate” statements concerning Donovan McNabb and venture into the realm of another shameful moment in broadcast history — when he lit into 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton in 1993. “Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?” Limbaugh said on TV, before holding up a picture of Chelsea. “

[Link: www.buzzflash.com…]


AWWWW, is that too out of context for you? Maybe rush shouldn’t be calling 13 year olds dogs! HMMM

470 American Sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 3:58:28pm

re: #425 BlueCanuck

Yeah, that’s what he said. Other wise he’s saying is that he’s clueless and didn’t check the facts of the matter. Which makes it even worse if you think about it. We was just trying to slander the governor and poke fun at her daughters.

The “joke” wouldn’t make any sense if it was about Willow. I’m assuming Letterman thought it was funny because Bristol was pregnant at a young age, out of wedlock and A-rod well, is kinda slutty with the Madonna thing and all. That’s why I think he’s probably telling the truth when he said he was talking about Bristol. He also probably didn’t realize Willow was with her mother at the game. So it backfired on him with a double whammy.

Like I say, slandering a governor, the president, it all seems up for grabs and family members happen to be fair game for every comedian. Look at Kathy Griffin or Sarah Bernhardt. I never liked either one of them. Both of them are horribly insulting. That’s what they do, they insult. I never was a fan of Joan Rivers either and what’s his name… not Dom Deloise, the other chubby guy from way back that made his career out of insulting everyone. And no one forced them to apologize for anything.

471 American Sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 4:01:48pm

re: #427 Dianna

Why is this topic being rehashed yet again?

He’s apologized. She’s accepted.

Palin used the word “evolved” in context.

Can we bloody well get over it? I thought it was nasty, I thought Letterman should have apologized before he did, but I’m glad he’s done it.

Now I don’t care any more, and would like to see this idiocy about who’s more misogynist dropped. Because, bluntly, I am well aware already that a lot of men don’t like women, and a lot of women don’t like other women, either. Whoopee.

Get over it.

hehe it’s a slow Tuesday? Hey, I didn’t post it. Charles did.

472 Ezekiel2517  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 4:04:09pm

Craig Ferguson is actually funnier than Letterman, Leno and Conan put together. And that’s with 90% of his entertainment value coming from making goofy faces at the camera.

473 Ezekiel2517  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 4:05:22pm

re: #472 Ezekiel2517

Craig Ferguson is actually funnier than Letterman, Leno and Conan put together. And that’s with 90% of his entertainment value coming from making goofy faces at the camera.

and impersonating Michael Caine.

474 LatinGent  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 4:12:33pm

re: #469 ihateronpaul

Yes, this was out of line. In the context of comedy, comedy has no limits, or political correctness. However, involving a minor in a crude joke was out of line. I don’t particularly like Sarah Palin but Dave took it too far here.

A TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE

“All that aside, Limbaugh’s recent remarks directed at two Sept. 11 widows veer so far off his worn propaganda path that they bypass his “insensitive and inappropriate” statements concerning Donovan McNabb and venture into the realm of another shameful moment in broadcast history — when he lit into 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton in 1993. “Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?” Limbaugh said on TV, before holding up a picture of Chelsea. “

[Link: www.buzzflash.com…]

AWWWW, is that too out of context for you? Maybe rush shouldn’t be calling 13 year olds dogs! HMMM

Both highly inappropriate and indefensible. Better Dog than Whore though. Not to mention the insult to Arod. (overlooked)

475 ihateronpaul  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 4:15:37pm

re: #474 LatinGent

Both highly inappropriate and indefensible. Better Dog than Whore though. Not to mention the insult to Arod. (overlooked)

well making fun of A-Rod makes sense because he is in the public eye and known to be adulterous, the obvious issue is involving a child in the joke

476 American Sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 4:17:44pm

re: #455 kynna

It may seem unimportant in light of the other events going on around the world, but the perpetual shrugging off of sexist comments by politicians and entertainers is exactly why we may never have a woman president. And, as a woman … yeah, that pisses me off.

Not to beat a dead thread to death…. but tasteless jokes have been going on, well, for as long as there has been comedians I wager. Certainly in the 50s? 60s? blue humor was very popular. The only difference is that it wasn’t on TV. After cable TV came out, then you had to pay to hear it. Before that, you had to to go Vegas.

477 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 4:34:15pm

As I said earlier, this story hasn’t exactly captivated me. But one thing I do believe is that Americans can handle tastelessness for the most part. But we are used to a spirit of fair play. So if high profile people like letterman want to have any credibility when it comes to defending themselves against charges like those in this case, he should have the courage and integrity to bash both sides of the political aisle equally. because if all you do is bash one side time after time, it not only loses its humor, it becomes downright obnoxious. And I won’t invite “obnoxious” people into my home as soon as I know that is how they are.

Hey dave: “Click” you’re gone.

478 kynna  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 4:51:20pm

re: #476 American Sabra

Not to beat a dead thread to death…. but tasteless jokes have been going on, well, for as long as there has been comedians I wager. Certainly in the 50s? 60s? blue humor was very popular. The only difference is that it wasn’t on TV. After cable TV came out, then you had to pay to hear it. Before that, you had to to go Vegas.

I know that. My hubby is in the entertainment industry and he and all his colleagues earn their money on tasteless jokes. But what happened in the 2008 campaign and continues to happen went beyond tasteless. Enough is enough. If women want to be taken seriously, we have to shake off the moldering residue of NOW (Stepford wives of the dem party) and forge a new path. That we have all of Hollywood, the “feminist” establishment and the news media against us doesn’t make me feel much like shrugging things off.

I have enough brain cells to follow the Iran story, the ObamABC story, the Netanyahu story and the tasteless, misogynistic comment story. And any other stories that get thrown my way. I have an advance degree in thinking about stuff. ;D

479 American Sabra  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 5:20:29pm

re: #478 kynna

I know that. My hubby is in the entertainment industry and he and all his colleagues earn their money on tasteless jokes. But what happened in the 2008 campaign and continues to happen went beyond tasteless. Enough is enough. If women want to be taken seriously, we have to shake off the moldering residue of NOW (Stepford wives of the dem party) and forge a new path. That we have all of Hollywood, the “feminist” establishment and the news media against us doesn’t make me feel much like shrugging things off.

I have enough brain cells to follow the Iran story, the ObamABC story, the Netanyahu story and the tasteless, misogynistic comment story. And any other stories that get thrown my way. I have an advance degree in thinking about stuff. ;D

Well I wasn’t talking about the campaign. Just stupid comedians. Btw, did you like Tina Fey as Sarah Palin and that whole schtick? Who was the other gal who played Hillary? I thought they were hysterical.

The other thing about NOW. All women owe a huge debt of gratitude to those women, even if you’ve parted ways with their philosophy or the way they go about it. The truth is that we wouldn’t be here without them and they deserve the recognition for that IMO.

But as to bad taste, sexist or racist humor, I came to the conclusion long ago that these jokes only “work”, if they work at all, when they are self-depreciating. IOW, Jews can only make good Jewish jokes, Blacks only good Black jokes, etc. I guess it’s the humbling aspect. Most people can laugh at themselves which allows others to laugh along and has the effect of dissolving the stereotypes in the best way possible. In fact, Blazing Saddles with the most insults and racist jokes, ended up showing how utterly ridiculous it all is. Whether Brooks meant to or not, that movie made a point. I think also because it wasn’t personal… his jokes attacked people in general. Maybe that’s another difference as to what is really funny and what’s truly insulting.

480 Throbert McGee  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 5:39:44pm

re: #447 Ben Hur

Mel Brooks films don’t present ugly stereotypes of Jews.

Um… I dunno about “ugly,” but The Producers can be interpreted as one big self-deprecating Jewish joke. (Two Jews produce Broadway play glorifying Hitler in order to make a quick fortune… those people will do anything for money, geddit?)

481 ihateronpaul  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 6:02:33pm

I think it is funny how so called anti-pc people like Hannity suddenly become bleeding heart feminists when stuff like this comes up

482 chinesearithmetic  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 6:16:02pm

Wasilla 2, Manhattan 0

483 chinesearithmetic  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 6:18:33pm

Wasilla 2, Manhattan London 0

484 AFVetWife  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 6:18:59pm

Palin came out ahead on this whole thing. Letterman was right to apologize, and Sarah was right in her response.
I’m just dropping in, as usual, and will try to respond to other posts, Hopefully, I’ll soon have more time with all of you.

485 Perplexed  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 6:50:33pm

Further news on this is that the Palins have invited Letterman to go bear hunting with them during bow season.

/tongue in cheek.

486 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 7:12:26pm

re: #9 Cheesehead

Cant we all just get along?! Oh wait, we are now. Whew!

I’m sure Letterman’s apology came right from the bottom of his pocket.

487 katemaclaren  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 7:26:28pm

re: #146 MandyManners

Mandy, did I ever tell you how much I like your “cut to the chase” no bs comments? No? Well, I do. Good on ya!

488 katemaclaren  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 7:28:56pm

re: #472 Ezekiel2517

Craig Ferguson is actually funnier than Letterman, Leno and Conan put together. And that’s with 90% of his entertainment value coming from making goofy faces at the camera.

I completely agree.

489 Eclectic Infidel  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 7:59:48pm

“Palin said. “This is all thanks to our U.S. Military women and men putting their lives on the line for us to secure America’s Right to Free Speech”

Please! Give it a rest Palin. Iraq is not in our backyard. You have your apology, time to move on and stop whoring out the US Military, thankyouverymuchkthnxbai.

490 JamesW  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 8:02:18pm

Don’t let the contreversy die! It’s more entertianing than the Late Show has been in years!

491 avspatti  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 8:59:36pm

re: #253 Nevergiveup

Sorry, hockey is best.

492 Mich-again  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 9:41:43pm

re: #167 FurryOldGuyJeans

Once he was lost, but now is found
Jun. 15, 2009 03:08 PM
Associated Press

That is the town about 1/2 mile down the road from me. Great story.

493 swamprat  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 9:47:13pm

I apologize for every time I ever watched David Letterman.

Really nice apology he gave though, I laughed, I cried, I got goose pimples.

wanker

494 avspatti  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 9:53:21pm

re: #469 ihateronpaul

And what does that have to do with Letterman? We are discussing Letterman.

495 Kozak  Tue, Jun 16, 2009 11:18:09pm

Letterman is still an Asshat. And an unfunny one at that.

496 American Sabra  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 8:00:24am

Ok. I thought of a good way to solve this terrible crisis.

I think the Republican party should start a new department called “The Dept of Laughology” or maybe “The Dept of Whiny Pansy Asses” since they’re so concerned about what people say, do and who they screw. We really need to know what is funny and/or acceptable and what isn’t. Actually, what they should do is make all the comedians submit their jokes beforehand so they can be properly critiqued and edited so no one is offended. First on the list of course is NO JOKES ABOUT THE PALIN CHILDREN. Clinton’s child is totally ok however. You can remark how ugly and dog-like Chelsea is all day long. Obama’s kids? Totally offlimits until they’re of dating age, at least 14 and then only if they aren’t about sex or ethinicity. If Sasha ends up with saggy arms, it’s fine to point and giggle.

You can joke about Bush’s daughters and Meaghan McCain because they’re gorgeous women and every U.S. Red Blooded American Male wants to fuck them so they get a complete pass ONLY if the jokes are positive. You can’t make negative jokes about pretty girls. Only the ugly ones.

We really need to do this, because I’m sick of comedians crossing the line and getting away with senseless jokes. This has been going on for decades and no one is apologizing to anyone. Thank God Palin made such a stink out of it for an entire week and forced Letterman to apologize. We should force all comedians to apologize when they insult Republican politicians people because the American public is too stupid to figure out how to move on, change the channel, or simply not listen to jokes which aren’t the least bit funny.

497 ihateronpaul  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 8:15:35am

re: #494 avspatti

And what does that have to do with Letterman? We are discussing Letterman.

It has to do with double standards. The same people that are condemning this were apologists for the rush incident back in the day.

498 Bill Dalasio  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 10:17:03am

re: #497 ihateronpaul

It has to do with double standards. The same people that are condemning this were apologists for the rush incident back in the day.

The problem is that there is a difference. “I think your adolescent daughter is ugly” kind of falls a little bit on the tame side of “I think a grown man should have sex with your adolescent daughter.”

499 DaddyG  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:12:21am

re: #285 FurryOldGuyJeans

New Mormon temple’s angel struck by lightning
Jun. 15, 2009 03:04 PM
Associated Press

Heh! That is a somewhat regular occurance at the Altlanta Temple. Poor Moroni is often sporting a black right arm and trumpet.

500 DaddyG  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:13:40am

re: #305 Radicchio ad Absurdum

Not religious myself, but I can see some god fearing folk taking that as a message. What message? I do not know.

God doesn’t override physics for nobody!

501 DaddyG  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 11:19:37am

re: #335 avanti
Bad form Avanti - we don’t worship the statues, they represent the angel flying through the heavens with the scriptures in hand. Our worship is reserved for Christ and we reverence Him enough not to use graven images of him on our Temples. (We do however have lots of artists renditions of Him in various biblical scenes throughout the temple but we don’t worship those either.)

502 ihateronpaul  Wed, Jun 17, 2009 12:37:46pm

re: #498 Bill Dalasio

The problem is that there is a difference. “I think your adolescent daughter is ugly” kind of falls a little bit on the tame side of “I think a grown man should have sex with your adolescent daughter.”

Both are equally tasteless! Why are you an apologist for rush calling a 13 year old girl a dog? ugh

503 Bill Dalasio  Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:37:28am

re: #502 ihateronpaul

Both are equally tasteless! Why are you an apologist for rush calling a 13 year old girl a dog? ugh

No, both are tasteless. One is far more so. Wouldn’t a more appropriate question be why do you consider joking about someone’s kid being the victim of statutory rape only on par with a joke about their appearance?


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Wolf Parade - Julia Take Your Man Home [OFFICIAL VIDEO]"Julia Take Your Man Home" from the album Thin Mind (Release Date: January 24, 2020) megamart.subpop.com Spotify: u.subpop.comAppleMusic: u.subpop.comAmazon: amazon.com Wolf ParadeFacebook: facebook.comBandcamp: wolfparade.bandcamp.comInstagram: instagram.comTwitter: @WolfParade VIDEO CREDITS: Animation by Chad VanGaalen YouTube
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Stay ‘97 Listen to this bass - Gail Ann is superb. Previously this version was only available as a bootleg. Provided to YouTube by Rhino/ParlophoneStay '97 · David Bowie Stay '97 ℗ 2020 Jones/Tintoretto Entertainment Company LLC under exclusive licence to ...
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Black Pumas - Fire (Official Live Session) Black Pumas’ debut album is available now - limited edition vinyl, CD and digital formats: smarturl.it FOLLOW BLACK PUMASTour Dates: theblackpumas.comFacebook: facebook.comTwitter: @blackpumasmusicInstagram: instagram.com Video Directed by Amos David McKayVideo Filmed at Arlyn Studios – Austin, TX LYRICSI’ve got ...
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Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66 - Mas Que Nada (Introduced by Eartha Kitt / Something Special 1967)Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66 - Mas que nada, from Eartha Kitt's Something Special 1967.
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Wes Montgomery - Here’s That Rainy Day - Live London 1965Stan Tracey (piano) Wes Montgomery (guitar) Rick Laird (bass) Jackie Dougan (drums)Television broadcast, "Tempo", ABC TV, London, England, May 7, 1965
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Halsey - You Should Be Sad (Lyric Video) Halsey’s new album ‘Manic’ out now! halsey.lnk.toiTunes: halsey.lnk.toSpotify: halsey.lnk.to Apple Music: halsey.lnk.toAmazon: halsey.lnk.toGoogle Play: halsey.lnk.to Get tickets to #ManicWorldTour! Each ticket purchase comes with a physical copy of ‘Manic’.halsey.lnk.to Follow Halsey –Twitter: @halsey Facebook: facebook.com Instagram: instagram.comSpotify: halsey.lnk.toOfficial Site: ...
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200119Yup, some are now calling it "The Pondathon" The boards we pounded in to the sump last week were not long enough to reach bottom.We didnt want to spend all day sunday on this and lose a day. And we ...
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