Republicans Need to Grow a Sense of Humor.
Yes, you’ve read correctly. To all of you GOP types playing the “offended” card on a daily basis… Prepare to have your feelings hurt, because according to my carefully calculated research… Republicans need to shut up and laugh a little.
To which I will simply add, “Indeed.”
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drcordell Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:44:14am |
Letterman certainly isn't complaining... his ratings are the best they have been all year.
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laZardo Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:44:57am |
Seems they lost their sense of humor sometime after McCain and Palin appeared on SNL, and between November '08 and January '09.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:45:05am |
I agree too but I will refrain from further comment because this will simply devolve into a Killgore bash thread.
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Lazarus Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:45:15am |
I'd rather see their principles in defense of individual rights.
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Pianobuff Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:46:17am |
Apparently, the lack of a sense of humor occasionally yields its own results.....
Olive Garden pulls Letterman ads
Following a week of back and forth between CBS late night comic David Letterman and Sarah Palin over a crude joke he told about the Alaska Republican governor’s daughter, the Olive Garden restaurant says it is cancelling all of its scheduled ads on Letterman’s “Late Show” for the rest of the year.
In an email to a Letterman critic obtained by POLITICO, a spokeswoman for the Italian restaurant chain wrote that “there will be no more Olive Garden ads scheduled for ‘The Late Show’ with David Letterman in this year's broadcast schedule,” citing the talk show host’s “inappropriate comments.”
“We apologize that Mr. Letterman’s mistake, which was not consistent with our standards and values, left you with a bad impression of Olive Garden,” wrote Sherri Bruen, the company’s guest relations manager.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:46:25am |
Not to paint with too broad a brush, but I think a lot of people on both sides of the aisle have been playing the hurt, offended victim for way too long. Democrats and Republicans both love to play the victim card whenever something "bad" is said about them in an attempt to gain public sympathy. Myself, I sympathize with people who actually have the balls to laugh at themselves.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:46:35am |
So ...the Special Olympic remarks, the tawdry Wanda Sykes remarks, and the Letterman remarks really were funny.
/Got it.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:47:15am |
more over they need to ignore the Left's baiting and go back to coming up witha rational party platform.
Sorry, but the current CRop of GOP hopefuls are humorless wankers
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:47:48am |
The same could have been said of the Democrats/Lefties after the 2000 election, of the Republicans in 1992, and the Dems/Lefties in 1980.
Need I go on?
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tfc3rid Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:47:57am |
Hard to laugh about anything when the radicals running Washington are doing everything they can to destroy our founding principles... Just like we all thought they wouldwhen the assumed power.
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songbird Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:48:48am |
re: #9 Jewels (AKA Julian)
more over they need to ignore the Left's baiting and go back to coming up witha rational party platform.
Sorry, but the current CRop of GOP hopefuls are humorless wankers
Unfortunately, the only ones with the cojones enough to run the country are busy working their butts off to support their families.
Imagine your Congressman/woman in a real job.
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:49:04am |
Nothing wrong with a little humor, wasn't GWB's ability to make a joke at his own expense one of his endearing qualities. Not being able to take a joke shows some serious character flaws.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:49:15am |
I try to laugh every day. I find that I tend to have a much better day when I take the time to appreciate the humor of life around me. Sometimes it gets me into trouble, and that makes me laugh even harder.
Even being approached this morning by some guy who thought he could score marijuana from me because he stereotyped me... dang, that was funny!
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pat Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:49:20am |
I have a fine sense of humor. As all left wing comedians have noted, there is nothing funny about Obama.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:49:45am |
Awesome!
The handicapped, wishing death and underage sex with pols' daughters is fair game!
Let the games begin!
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:49:52am |
I think the Republican sense of humor is just fine. They laugh at Obama all the time.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:50:06am |
I can see the first two, but Exhibit C was beyond the pale, IMHO. Letterman went well over the top with a joke that would've earned him a deletion with a warning on any decent blog. Letterman simply showed what a bitter old fart he has become.
/BTW, has Dave even been funny since he got passed over for The Tonight Show?
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:50:16am |
re: #17 pat
I have a fine sense of humor. As all left wing comedians have noted, there is nothing funny about Obama.
If he wasn't so hell bent on destroying this country he would be funny.
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yochanan Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:50:17am |
frankly i think the joke is on us esp in D.C.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:50:32am |
re: #5 Pianobuff
Apparently, the lack of a sense of humor occasionally yields its own results.....
Olive Garden pulls Letterman ads
Following a week of back and forth between CBS late night comic David Letterman and Sarah Palin over a crude joke he told about the Alaska Republican governor“We apologize that Mr. Letterman’s mistake, which was not consistent with our standards and values, left you with a bad impression of Olive Garden,” wrote Sherri Bruen, the company’s guest relations manager.
Of course, they might have done the same thing if Letterman had joked about an adult having sex with a Democrat's underage daughter.
And I hope lizards would have been just as offended, because his remark was inappropriate no matter the political party of her family.
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Lynn B. Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:50:39am |
re: #7 pink freud
So ...the Special Olympic remarks, the tawdry Wanda Sykes remarks, and the Letterman remarks really were funny.
/Got it.
Yeah. Totally agree with the general sentiment. Pretty much disagree with those three examples.
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drcordell Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:50:41am |
re: #10 FurryOldGuyJeans
The same could have been said of the Democrats/Lefties after the 2000 election, of the Republicans in 1992, and the Dems/Lefties in 1980.
Need I go on?
The resurgence is right around the corner!
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:50:52am |
re: #18 Ben Hur
Awesome!
The handicapped, wishing death and underage sex with pols' daughters is
fair game!funny.Let the games begin!
FTFY
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:52:14am |
They're not over being bummed and just a wee bit testy about it still.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:52:51am |
Political Correctness is only for the right.
Put on Comedy Central and you will see the latest trend in comedy is just to shock people with un-PC (for the mainstream) jokes.
Like Conan O'Brian's Jew joke this week.
If that was said at a private affair by a politician, they'd be gone.
He can say it to millions.
It's what it is.
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ihateronpaul Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:53:17am |
"The fags in Oklahoma as well as everywhere else in America voted overwhelmingly for the magic negro.
Where as most tea party attendees probably wouldn’t put out the fire if he was burning."
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
huhr huhr huhr
BARF
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:53:17am |
re: #20 Honorary Yooper
I can see the first two, but Exhibit C was beyond the pale, IMHO. Letterman went well over the top with a joke that would've earned him a deletion with a warning on any decent blog. Letterman simply showed what a bitter old fart he has become.
/BTW, has Dave even been funny since he got passed over for The Tonight Show?
That is the real question, NBC made the right move going with Leno.
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songbird Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:53:33am |
It is hard to have a sense of humor when you are watching your country decline right before your eyes. Obama and the Dem Congress have, done more to destroy the integrity, strength, financial strength, reputation and resolve of our beloved country in less than half a year than any president or Congress before them.
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kynna Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:53:34am |
re: #1 drcordell
Letterman certainly isn't complaining... his ratings are the best they have been all year.
Really? I haven't seen the ratings data for this week. I'll have to Google and see if I can get the article on this, unless you can direct me to save some time. As a kindness, y'know. :)
re: #19 Ford_Prefect
I think the Republican sense of humor is just fine. They laugh at Obama all the time.
Some of the jokes about Hillary's broken elbow were actually quite hilarious. Of course I wish her a full and speedy recovery and I don't want anyone to get any bad boo-boos anyway, but the person who suggested she'd been dodging sniper fire when she fell got a LOL out of me. :D
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:53:42am |
In my experience it's the left that lacks a sense of humor. Never see a lib without a scowl on his/her face.
Crowder's off base with this one. Once he reaches puberty he'll understand.
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Kragar Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:53:53am |
Also missing, backbone, positive ideas and leadership
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HippieforLife Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:53:54am |
A sense of humor always makes things better. However, why should people laugh at things that are not funny? Not everyone has the same sense of humor. Then again, some things are just not funny.
I don't see the Democrats busting a gut laughing at VP Biden, who regularly deserves it.
After taking 8+ years of constant derision and not standing up I am glad to see the Republicans quit taking it on the chin.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:53:54am |
As long as the politics of victimization will get them what they want, they will continue to use it. For every Republican that has been called a racist, over obviously non-racist remarks, in order to advance a Democrat, this "lack of sense of humor" about the Sarah Palin 'jokes' from Letterman has the taste of payback.
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Gearhead Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:54:07am |
People tell me I'm funny all the time. But, hey, looks aren't everything.
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:54:40am |
re: #1 drcordell
Letterman certainly isn't complaining... his ratings are the best they have been all year.
Where's the evidence of that? Link please.
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kynna Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:54:45am |
re: #24 Kosh's Shadow
Of course, they might have done the same thing if Letterman had joked about an adult having sex with a Democrat's underage daughter.
And I hope lizards would have been just as offended, because his remark was inappropriate no matter the political party of her family.
Agreed.
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laZardo Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:54:49am |
I have a 4chan-grade sense of humor.
/i'm not prejudiced. i just hate everyone. q;
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Kenneth Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:54:55am |
In general, it is a good idea for preople to grow a thicker skin. However, the man who wrote the piece quoted above included this defense of Letterman's Palin jokes:
Exhibit CLetterman with the Palin Jokes – Letterman made an off-color joke about Sarah Palin resembling a slutty flight attendant (not funny) along with an extremely “controversial” remark about one of the Palin daughters. When taken in context… The joke was worth a chuckle. Letterman was under the impression that Bristol Palin (the older daughter) had been taken to the ball game and Letterman made a joke about her getting “knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.” Let’s face facts… Bristol has a bad track record when it comes to sexual responsibility and A-Rod is a notorious mimbo. Combine the two, and you’ve got some funny material to work with. Was it in poor taste? Like 90% of Letterman’s bits, yes. Is it hypocritical for a leftist to be holding a Conservative up to a higher standard of sexual morality? Of course.
However, Republicans (and the Palin family) tried to twist this quip into a joke about Letterman wanting to rape their underage daughter, which was subsequently followed by phony outrage.
So the "GOP types" need to get a sense of humor? Fine. But the Democrats and liberal types need to grow a sense of morality and respect for decency, the lack of which is a far more serious defict, in my opinion
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Salamantis Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:55:02am |
I like the fact that Conan O'Brien can ridicule himself, too.
/Vroom Vroom Pahty Stahtah!
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:55:04am |
re: #35 kynna
Some of the jokes about Hillary's broken elbow were actually quite hilarious. Of course I wish her a full and speedy recovery and I don't want anyone to get any bad boo-boos anyway, but the person who suggested she'd been dodging sniper fire when she fell got a LOL out of me. :D
Do not joke about Hillary's broken elbow!
Remember what happened after Sotomayor broke her ankle!
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:55:06am |
This is humor:
Do we really want to be the person at the party around which everyone has to tiptoe around for fear of offending our sensibilities? . . . Leave that kind of crap to the Sean Penn pansies of the world.
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SFGoth Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:55:11am |
GOPers are too busy being hypocrites on every issue.
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rumcrook Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:55:19am |
less having a sense of humor than tired of double standards, and a propensity for all jokes to be aimed twoards the right as a weapon in the liberal arsenal.
ya know anyone with a sense of humor will grin and bear being the butt of the jokes, but only for so long and only untill they realize they are the only target and its malicious. in lettermans case he has been attacking palin for a long long time.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:55:43am |
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:55:45am |
re: #39 CyanSnowHawk
As long as the politics of victimization will get them what they want, they will continue to use it. For every Republican that has been called a racist, over obviously non-racist remarks, in order to advance a Democrat, this "lack of sense of humor" about the Sarah Palin 'jokes' from Letterman has the taste of payback.
The victimization thing is the Dems baby. Most who fall for that trick would vote for Stalin over Jesus if Stalin had a D next to his name and Jesus an R.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:55:56am |
The GOP is not allowed to have a sense of humor.
If the GOP says it, it's offensive.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:55:58am |
re: #23 buzzsawmonkey
I agree that the incidents mentioned in the article were blown out of proportion.
I will, however, observe that the only time I have been reprimanded here for a wisecrack was the other day by Killgore, who felt I was being insufficiently deferent to the President.
I have not otherwise observed any dearth of humor here by avowedly conservative posters.
Even our liberals are showing a sense of humor:
"I have to admit I have ideas of writing something for HuffPo or Kos called "I have met LGF and They are Us""
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drcordell Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:56:09am |
re: #35 kynna
[Link: mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com...]
Seems like some of it might be attributable to the fact that he's up against Conan now instead of Leno. But he's certainly seeing some spike from all the press.
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:56:11am |
Heh, no one likes to be the butt of any joke and some take it personally. Any of the given situations listed in article were reversed the Democrats would be screaming bloody murder and the Republicans would be asking what's the big deal. Which is why I find it funny.
Why so serious?
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:56:27am |
re: #46 Ben Hur
Do not joke about Hillary's broken elbow!
Remember what happened after Sotomayor broke her ankle!
Calcium deficiencies. Need to up subsidies to dairy farmers./
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laZardo Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:56:35am |
re: #50 Alouette
I saw that video on the auto industry a couple weeks back.
At first, I lol'd.
But then, I wept for humanity.
/car enthusiast D:
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Salamantis Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:56:40am |
re: #35 kynna
Some of the jokes about Hillary's broken elbow were actually quite hilarious. Of course I wish her a full and speedy recovery and I don't want anyone to get any bad boo-boos anyway, but the person who suggested she'd been dodging sniper fire when she fell got a LOL out of me. :D
I heard that she snapped her elbow herself trying to pull it around so she could kiss it and change into a guy...;~)
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:56:46am |
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lincolntf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:57:51am |
Anyone see the news story about the NK ship possibly carrying nuke weapons/parts being tracked by the US military? There was no detail to the story, just a quick mention on Fox.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:58:20am |
re: #61 laZardo
So a dyslexic walks into a bra...
Well, dyslexics do have more fnu!*
*I'm living proof!
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Land Shark Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:58:21am |
Mind you, nobody told the Democrats they needed to have a sense of humor during the previous 8 years when GW Bush was President. I seem to recall they were constantly enraged about this or that. And I'm sure nobody will if some Conservative pundit makes an inappropriate remark or "joke" about President Obama's daughters, for example.
Rest assured if the incidents mentioned in the article were done by Conservatives the article would have instead been about how those mean Conservatives had crossed the line, yada yada, blah, blah, blah.
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:58:29am |
True; after all, our society doesn't appreciate doesn't respect bends over backwards for so-called victims.
Meh. I won't bother beating progressives at their own grievance mongering game, but I'm not going to spare more than a bitter chuckle when it ends up turning back on them, either.
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albusteve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:58:29am |
re: #53 pink freud
Even our liberals are showing a sense of humor:
"I have to admit I have ideas of writing something for HuffPo or Kos called "I have met LGF and They are Us""
spit
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:58:30am |
I recall some comedian once made a tepid joke about Chelsea Clinton and you'd have thought the earth's rotation had stopped.
Jokes about Sarah Palin's kids are fine, I guess.
Aren't double standards great?
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lincolntf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:58:38am |
Libs complaining about Republicans being humorless is hilarious.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:58:43am |
Don Rickles is/was my #1.
I say "was" because I've actually seen a show in Vegas BEFORE he had to send a bottle of champagne to anyone he offended.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:58:44am |
re: #17 pat
I have a fine sense of humor. As all left wing comedians have noted, there is nothing funny about Obama.
No, it's not that there's nothing funny about him. If you joke about him you're a RACIST!
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saberry0530 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:58:51am |
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drcordell Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:58:52am |
re: #51 soxfan4life
The victimization thing is the Dems baby. Most who fall for that trick would vote for Stalin over Jesus if Stalin had a D next to his name and Jesus an R.
Surely you can't be serious. Victimization is solely a Democratic thing? Ever heard of the Southern Strategy? Silent Majority? The GOP practically invented victimization.
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:59:09am |
re: #62 lincolntf
Anyone see the news story about the NK ship possibly carrying nuke weapons/parts being tracked by the US military? There was no detail to the story, just a quick mention on Fox.
And probably a loud no comment from the 0. He has to focus all of his energy on his National Health Scare.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:59:10am |
re: #62 lincolntf
Anyone see the news story about the NK ship possibly carrying nuke weapons/parts being tracked by the US military? There was no detail to the story, just a quick mention on Fox.
If true, I predict it will run into "foul weather" and probably sink before it reaches its destination (thank you Israeli frogmen).
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:59:26am |
re: #62 lincolntf
Anyone see the news story about the NK ship possibly carrying nuke weapons/parts being tracked by the US military? There was no detail to the story, just a quick mention on Fox.
Come now. We have greater fish to fry. Like an alleged lack of sense of humor from conservatives.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:59:49am |
Waiting for the "There are people dying in Iran, why are we talking about this?" comment.
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opnion Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:00:07am |
For eight years the jokes & slurs were fast & furious about the intellect & integrity of President Bush. I don't recall too many Republican meltdowns.
Imagine the same treatment of Obama. Does this guy think that the Dems would be yucking it up?
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lincolntf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:00:23am |
re: #75 JammieWearingFool
Maybe it's carrying whoopee cushions and plastic dog poo. We have a humor gap!
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:00:24am |
Not sure I agree with the premise that Republicans need a sense of humor based on the examples used in the article, but to get thru the next 2 or 4 years I am sure I will need a sense of humor and a whole case of Scotch also.
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tappin52 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:00:38am |
Sorry guys, no matter how you look at it, joking about a professional ballplayer "knocking up" a teenager in front of her mother is disgusting.
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Lynn B. Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:00:38am |
re: #55 Idle Drifter
Heh, no one likes to be the butt of any joke and some take it personally. Any of the given situations listed in article were reversed the Democrats would be screaming bloody murder and the Republicans would be asking what's the big deal. Which is why I find it funny.
People of decency should be screaming bloody murder about making the Special Olympics, wishing a slow and painful death on anyone and the rape of a 14-year old the butt of a joke, no matter who makes it.
/and if I was ever going to wish a slow and painful death on someone, I can guarantee it would not be a joke.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:00:58am |
As aside, I've seen Crowders acts.
He's not to funny, either.
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kynna Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:01:07am |
re: #39 CyanSnowHawk
As long as the politics of victimization will get them what they want, they will continue to use it. For every Republican that has been called a racist, over obviously non-racist remarks, in order to advance a Democrat, this "lack of sense of humor" about the Sarah Palin 'jokes' from Letterman has the taste of payback.
It does. But nobody else is sticking up for them in the entertainment industry or news media -- or even in the GOP -- so people who think the Palin family has gotten a raw deal seem to have focused on this. As they see success, they'll do it more. I think the Paliins have gotten a seriously raw deal, but I can't engage in a boycott because 1) I don't watch TV, and 2) I don't have any money to spend elsewhere anyway.
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:01:08am |
re: #33 soxfan4life
From the article:
Let’s face facts… Bristol has a bad track record when it comes to sexual responsibility and A-Rod is a notorious mimbo. Combine the two, and you’ve got some funny material to work with. Was it in poor taste? Like 90% of Letterman’s bits, yes. Is it hypocritical for a leftist to be holding a Conservative up to a higher standard of sexual morality? Of course.However, Republicans (and the Palin family) tried to twist this quip into a joke about Letterman wanting to rape their underage daughter, which was subsequently followed by phony outrage.
And for me it was more than that... at the risk of beating another boring subject to death. Why do comedians have to apologize for bad jokes? Obviously Brietbart didn't think it was bad. I thought it was stupid. Big deal. Lots of people make stupid, sexist, racist jokes and have been for decades. Now they all have to apologize? This is America for goodness sake.
Brietbart is dead on about political correctness on the Right. To scary proportions.
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lincolntf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:01:08am |
Story is back on Fox. Looks like SecDef is going to make a statement some time soon.
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laZardo Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:01:22am |
re: #67 JammieWearingFool
I recall some comedian once made a tepid joke about Chelsea Clinton and you'd have thought the earth's rotation had stopped.
Jokes about Sarah Palin's kids are fine, I guess.
Aren't double standards great?
Hillary jokes were funnier anyway. 0:
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n in wi Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:02:46am |
re: #74 Creeping Eruption
If true, I predict it will run into "foul weather" and probably sink before it reaches its destination (thank you Israeli frogmen).
Only if the Somali pirates don't get there first.
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opnion Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:02:47am |
re: #52 Ben Hur
The GOP is not allowed to have a sense of humor.
If the GOP says it, it's offensive.
True, I would say that jokes about Republicans are usually much tougher than jokes against Democrats. The entertainment industry loves Dems.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:02:53am |
I have a sense of humor. I think Joe Biden is hilarious.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:02:56am |
re: #81 tappin52
Sorry guys, no matter how you look at it, joking about a professional ballplayer "knocking up" a teenager in front of her mother is disgusting.
Sorry tappin52, according to Stephen Crowder:
"Letterman made an off-color joke about Sarah Palin resembling a slutty flight attendant (not funny) along with an extremely “controversial” remark about one of the Palin daughters. When taken in context… The joke was worth a chuckle."
//////////////
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:03:14am |
re: #64 Land Shark
It's quite one thing to be enraged about a war or the Patriot Act and the near death of civil liberties, or at least worrying about it. It's quite another to be enraged over a stupid comedian whose job it is to insult people.
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:03:38am |
re: #83 Ben Hur
As aside, I've seen Crowders acts.
He's not to funny, either.
He's got some good videos, but still lacks life experience.
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Salamantis Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:03:39am |
Dyslexic firearms aficionado:
"Whas't gnu wiht yuo?"
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aRedPhishHead Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:03:45am |
I don't get it. I've been laughing for years at the GOP in between the anti-collectivist ranting.
Maybe that's why I'm an independent.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:03:59am |
I learned GOP humor very early on from my Grandfather. He had a sticker on his front door that always made me laugh. It said:
There is nothing in this house worth you losing your life over. This house protected by Smith and Wesson
Come to think of it . . . it was no joke.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:04:07am |
re: #82 Lynn B.
People of decency should be screaming bloody murder about making the Special Olympics, wishing a slow and painful death on anyone and the rape of a 14-year old the butt of a joke, no matter who makes it.
/and if I was ever going to wish a slow and painful death on someone, I can guarantee it would not be a joke.
You just gotta know that Crowder is going to read this thread and say:
"See! I told you so!"
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Gearhead Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:04:33am |
We make fun of them. We laugh. They gripe.
They make fun of us. They laugh. We gripe.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:04:59am |
re: #92 American Sabra
It's quite one thing to be enraged about a war or the Patriot Act and the near death of civil liberties, or at least worrying about it. It's quite another to be enraged over a stupid comedian whose job it is to insult people.
Add on that Sarah Palin and family, the aggrieved parties, have accepted the man's apology and still a bunch of people want to continue the fight about the "joke".
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lincolntf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:05:07am |
re: #91 pink freud
Yeah, those jokes about Jose Canseco banging Chelsea Clinton were hilarious back in the '90s.
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:05:41am |
re: #91 pink freud
Sorry tappin52, according to Stephen Crowder:
"Letterman made an off-color joke about Sarah Palin resembling a slutty flight attendant (not funny) along with an extremely “controversial” remark about one of the Palin daughters. When taken in context… The joke was worth a chuckle."
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The flight attendant thing just didn't make sense. Palin doesn't wear a lot of makeup. She dresses very nicely and flight attendants don't have that kind of rep anymore anyway, do they? Many are men, for one thing and older women.... am I picking this apart? I didn't get the joke.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:05:45am |
Ya know how sometimes you misspeak, like asking for a banana instead of an orange or asking for a coke instead of a Pepsi?
Last night I meant to ask the misses " will you please pass the salt" but it came out " Whore! You ruined my life!"
weird
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PennStConserv Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:06:08am |
I'm sorry, but criticizing the GOP for being pissed about Letterman's Palin comments is ridiculous. There is a difference between excessive political correctness, and decency. A national TV host, in so many words, calls a GOP governor a slut. And then compounds it by joking about her daughter getting banged by a professional sports player. Hey, newsflash, we're not playing poker in the basement with a bunch of guys making crude jokes, there's a different standard. It's incredibly misogynistic (and would not be tolerated for an instant if it had happened across the aisle), and it's even more out of line to say that party members shouldn't be pissed that GOP politicians and their families are being denigrated like this. My view is that we don't stick up for own enough, and whether you like Palin or not, tolerating this type of crude humor on a national level only encourages more of the same and shows more weakness.
On a political level, Democrats have made an industry of crying foul over the slightest of slights, and it is plain stupid for the GOP to simply sit back and let them have free reign when some political capital can be wrung out of it. I don't care if some people think the GOP should be above victim politics, for the most part we are, but sometimes, it's appropriate. Like when Letterman calls you a slut.
If anything, we should be calling more attention to the double standard between treatment of GOP public figures and Democratic officials.
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Last Mohican Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:06:11am |
I've been pretty appalled by a lot of what's going on in the Republican party recently, but only one third of this resonates with me. I thought the "special olympics" comment really was offensive. There are plenty of ways to lightheartedly make fun of one's bowling skills without bringing up the special olympics. And I personally can't stand Rush Limbaugh, but Wanda Sykes' wishing a disease upon him struck me as cruel and offensive, not funny.
As for Letterman's Palin jokes, I admit I haven't seen the clip. I haven't been particularly interested. The "slutty flight attendant" thing doesn't strike me as over the line, and the thing about Palin's daughter is insulting, but not unacceptably so, I think, as long as he was talking about the older daughter. Frankly I think all the hoopla about getting Letterman fired is way overblown, and calling for him to be fired is just a big embarrassment for the Right.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:06:15am |
re: #45 Salamantis
I like the fact that Conan O'Brien can ridicule himself, too.
/Vroom Vroom Pahty Stahtah!
I haven't watched Conan (or any other late night talk shows) in a long time. If I'm up that late and the tv's on, I'm usually watching a dvd.
I always liked Conan's sense of humor about himself. The Pale Force cartoons are hilarious.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:06:23am |
re: #85 American Sabra
From the article:
Let’s face facts… Bristol has a bad track record when it comes to sexual responsibility and A-Rod is a notorious mimbo. Combine the two, and you’ve got some funny material to work with.
Just because a teenage girl has had sex with her boyfriend does not mean she will have sex with everyone. I thought feminism was about removing all these old stereotypes, not reinforcing them.
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ihateronpaul Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:06:29am |
re: #99 FurryOldGuyJeans
Add on that Sarah Palin and family, the aggrieved parties, have accepted the man's apology and still a bunch of people want to continue the fight about the "joke".
hey, Michelle Malkin needs to get paid somehow.
/
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kynna Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:07:05am |
re: #54 drcordell
[Link: mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com...]
Seems like some of it might be attributable to the fact that he's up against Conan now instead of Leno. But he's certainly seeing some spike from all the press.
Thanks! It's like Kevin Smith faxing the synopsis of Dogma to the Catholic League in order to get promotion. It opened pretty well at the box office, but that thing was a d.o.g.
However, you can't just let everything go by, either. That's how we ended up here, where conservatives can be ridiculed and lied about and democrats' lives, foibles, corruption, etc... are held in the vault of no-can-talk-about.
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NukeAtomrod Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:07:16am |
The GOP is having an identity crisis. Some are just mystified by Obama's win. Currently they are misanalyzing it as s groundswell of support for the leftist agenda. Maybe it's just to difficult to accept that Obama is a cult of personality. I agree with practically none of Obama's goals, but I can help liking him anyway. That wasn't enough to make me vote for him, but most voters don't need anything else. The fact is, no one really liked McCain and that's what sank him.
Those in the GOP that do understand this have started looking for their own charismatic cult leader. Unfortunately, that's the wrong solution. They just need someone who can speak clearly and plainly and make the case for reducing the size of government and relinquishing the control of business and industry that Obama's been gathering.
Given the self-denial going on in the GOP, it's not surprising their humor is lacking at the moment.
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:07:21am |
re: #92 American Sabra
It's quite one thing to be enraged about a war or the Patriot Act and the near death of civil liberties, or at least worrying about it. It's quite another to be enraged over a stupid comedian whose job it is to insult people.
The near death of...
okay, that was pretty funny.
wait, you weren't being serious, were you?
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drcordell Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:07:25am |
re: #67 JammieWearingFool
I recall some comedian once made a tepid joke about Chelsea Clinton and you'd have thought the earth's rotation had stopped.
Jokes about Sarah Palin's kids are fine, I guess.
Aren't double standards great?
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."
-John McCain, 1998
"I don't understand why Letterman would say that about a young woman,"
-John McCain, last week
I'm not saying Letterman's joke wasn't in poor taste, but enough of this double-standard nonsense. The GOP has controlled Congress or the White House nearly uninterrupted from Nixon till W. Conservatives are not a persecuted minority, and they never have been.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:07:38am |
re: #105 PennStConserv
The Palins have accepted the man's apologies, the rest of us need to act like adults and stop fighting a now dead issue.
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:07:56am |
re: #85 American Sabra
From the article:
And for me it was more than that... at the risk of beating another boring subject to death. Why do comedians have to apologize for bad jokes? Obviously Brietbart didn't think it was bad. I thought it was stupid. Big deal. Lots of people make stupid, sexist, racist jokes and have been for decades. Now they all have to apologize? This is America for goodness sake.Brietbart is dead on about political correctness on the Right. To scary proportions.
The whole protesting Letterman trying to get him fired was ridiculous, if you don't like him TURN THE CHANNEL if enough people do that he will be gone. As for the whole PC thing and the right, that seems to be an issue with both sides of the fence. People need to lighten up some and quit trying to hold everyone else up to an unreachable standard. We are all people and we all have our flaws that is what makes us unique. As for me, if I hear more of this PC you can't say this or do that and what about the children drivel I am going to lose my mind. While the thieves are busy pointing out the flaws of the other side, both sides are robbing us blind. End of rant
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ihateronpaul Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:08:07am |
re: #105 PennStConserv
I'm sorry, but criticizing the GOP for being pissed about Letterman's Palin comments is ridiculous. There is a difference between excessive political correctness, and decency. A national TV host, in so many words, calls a GOP governor a slut. And then compounds it by joking about her daughter getting banged by a professional sports player. Hey, newsflash, we're not playing poker in the basement with a bunch of guys making crude jokes, there's a different standard. It's incredibly misogynistic (and would not be tolerated for an instant if it had happened across the aisle), and it's even more out of line to say that party members shouldn't be pissed that GOP politicians and their families are being denigrated like this. My view is that we don't stick up for own enough, and whether you like Palin or not, tolerating this type of crude humor on a national level only encourages more of the same and shows more weakness.
On a political level, Democrats have made an industry of crying foul over the slightest of slights, and it is plain stupid for the GOP to simply sit back and let them have free reign when some political capital can be wrung out of it. I don't care if some people think the GOP should be above victim politics, for the most part we are, but sometimes, it's appropriate. Like when Letterman calls you a slut.
If anything, we should be calling more attention to the double standard between treatment of GOP public figures and Democratic officials.
Hey I can't hear you over the deafening bleeding heart political correctness you suddenly discovered for a fleeting moment, which will surely disappear around the next time there is a "dog the bounty hunter"-esque incident.
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:08:21am |
Link to Nork story:
Military Tracking North Korean Ship Suspected of Proliferating Weapons Material
Doesn't say where the ship[ currently is, however.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:08:44am |
re: #92 American Sabra
It's quite one thing to be enraged about a war or the Patriot Act and the near death of civil liberties, or at least worrying about it. It's quite another to be enraged over a stupid comedian whose job it is to insult people.
I think you miss the point. Many of us were disgusted by Letterman's joke, but by and large he is what he is and I like others just don't watch him. But the fact that the MSM treat Democrats one way and Republicans another way is what infuriated many of us. Liberals and Liberal causes are out of bounds, while Republicans and Conservative causes are not and we conservatives should just get a sense of humor?
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:09:13am |
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capitalist piglet Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:09:16am |
re: #91 pink freud
Sorry tappin52, according to Stephen Crowder:
"Letterman made an off-color joke about Sarah Palin resembling a slutty flight attendant (not funny) along with an extremely “controversial” remark about one of the Palin daughters. When taken in context… The joke was worth a chuckle."
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If you think the Letterman joke was bad, you should have heard Bill Maher's defense of it.
He then went on talking about how Letterman had invited Sarah Palin and her young daughter, Willow, to appear as guests on his show but the Governor declined because she thought it would be wise to keep her daughter away from him. Said Maher, “…that’s right, he’s 62 years old, he’s gonna f*** her right there on stage…it would be very wise to keep her, very wise, yes. You know, I’d worry a little more about the 18-year old hockey players who knock up your daughters.” To which his audience of trained seals laughed and clapped and had a good old time.
I don't know what's wrong with me, but I just don't find this funny.
/////////// in-frigging-finity
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tfc3rid Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:09:24am |
re: #117 JammieWearingFool
Link to Nork story:
Military Tracking North Korean Ship Suspected of Proliferating Weapons Material
Doesn't say where the ship[ currently is, however.
Global test?
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:09:24am |
re: #108 Alouette
Just because a teenage girl has had sex with her boyfriend does not mean she will have sex with everyone. I thought feminism was about removing all these old stereotypes, not reinforcing them.
Well I guess Letterman thought she was slutty. Now A-rod is slutty! I'm sure many of us lost our virginity before the age of 18 anyway.... we just were more careful about getting pregnant, or more lucky, I'm not sure which.
This has NOTHING to do with feminism or racism or raping or any of that ridiculousness. This was a comedian make a joke, a very poor one, and made to apologize for it which I find to be INSANE.
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ihateronpaul Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:09:35am |
re: #118 taxfreekiller
Or, how's this
Republicans created the Ron Paul myth
and it is driving some liberals even more bat shit crazy.
I'm mean we all know Ron Paul is a f'n joke.
YOU obviously haven't watched any of Alex Jones's documentaries and haven't learned THE TRUTH! You are just a SLAVE! A SLAVE!
//////
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:09:38am |
Hey Jammie, you wanted ratings numbers?
Here you go. The full breakdown is here.
Ratings bump? Nope. It was a black hole.
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albusteve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:09:48am |
Q how do you get down off an elphant?
A you don't, you get down off a goose
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3 wood Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:09:50am |
re: #67 JammieWearingFool
I recall some comedian once made a tepid joke about Chelsea Clinton and you'd have thought the earth's rotation had stopped.
Jokes about Sarah Palin's kids are fine, I guess.
Aren't double standards great?
The other part of this double standard is that if you challenge a left wing shill to be accurate and back up their spin, you get accused of slurring the President.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:10:24am |
You know, for a posting talking about how the GOP needs to get a sense of humor, this has been a pretty serious thread...
/irony
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:10:36am |
re: #128 3 wood
The other part of this double standard is that if you challenge a left wing shill to be accurate and back up their spin, you get accused of slurring the President.
Oh, we have NEVER seen that here! *rolls eyes*
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A.W. Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:10:59am |
Um, its kind of hard to criticize people for criticizing Letterman, given that he did apologize for it.
What i want is to see a little parity in the parody. When David Letterman says he can't find anything funny about Obama, you can't help but go "WTF?" Then again, these days when i see what is going on, i admit i am more apt to cry than laugh.
The fact is that republicans and conservatives are ALWAYS the butt of jokes, but rarely have anyone make liberals or democrats the butt of jokes. And to say that because three times republicans said, "enough is enough" means they have no sense of humor about themselves is a little ridiculous, especially when with one of the jokes it was a hypocritical attack on the family of a political figure.
I mean try this on for size. "Just the other day Joe Biden was at a Nationals game. Yeah, it got a little awkward during the seventh inning stretch when his daughter tried to snort the foul line."
Funny, i bet that joke never occurred to them and if it did, they wouldn't even think of telling it. Why? Because it is mean.
But wait, its still appropriate to attack Sarah for Bristol's pregnancy (as Letterman claimed he meant to do), because its hypocritical. um how so? because her daughter didn't live up to her expectations of conduct? Well, first, i don't know how it makes Sarah Palin a hypocrite, and second, um, can't you say the same about biden and his daughter's coke use? some have also said that bristol is a hypocrite because she now kind of sort of said one should just be abstinant. But, um, how do we know the story isn't really "look, i tried birth control. it failed. and so i have now seen the light and decided abstinance is the only approach that works." Could be. and i am willing to bet that if you asked Biden's daughter she would say now that one should abstain from snorting coke, too. Sometimes you listen to a person who made mistakes, if only to avoid making the same mistakes.
Oh, the left says, but Sarah is pro-abstinance, too! Um, actually i have yet to see any evidence of that. the only thing i saw her say on birth control was that she opposed "explicit" sex ed, which is a long way from saying she supported abstinance only education. Mind you, its isn't exactly clear what explicit sex ed is, in Palin's mind, but if she is saying she doesn't want children putting condoms on bananas, is that such an unreasonable position?
And there is one other problem, here, which i alluded to before: David Letterman is a giant hypocrite on this too. He had children outside of the context of marriage, too. So for her to pick on a teenage girl for doing the same is just unfair.
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lincolntf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:11:14am |
US Navy ships "have intercepted" the ship according to the news. Don't know if they mean we physically stopped it or what.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:11:16am |
re: #120 pink freud
How'd the job interview go!?
(Sorry if it's been discussed already.)
Hasn't gone yet, I'm going in 20 minutes.
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albusteve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:11:25am |
Q what time is it when ten elephants are chasing you?
A ten after one
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:11:42am |
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:11:56am |
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:11:57am |
re: #134 albusteve
Q what time is it when ten elephants are chasing you?
A ten after one
Q: What time is it when an elephant sits on your fence?
A: Time to get a new fence.
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Gavriel Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:12:06am |
Humor requires the ability to reject something as absurd. It has to be absurd and then it can't be taken to heart. Then it's funny. There was a joke I really liked:
A man goes on vacation and asks his neighbor to keep a watch on things. The man calls and the neighbor says "I'm sorry, but your cat died". The man is devastated "I loved that cat" he sobs. "You should have broken it to me gently". "How do you mean?". "You could have says something like 'Your cat's on the roof, and he won't come down', and then next day said "It isn't looking good", and then finally tell me that my cat passed away.A week later the man calls his neighbor to find out how things are going. "Well" says the neighbor, "You mom's on the roof and she won't come down".
Unfortunately, someone close to me passed away. And for several years I couldn't tell the joke. I couldn't reject the absurdity of it. The fictional death of the man's mother struck me in my heart. It just wasn't funny.
The conservatives love this country and to see the destruction being wreaked by "progressive" policy strikes them in the heart. It just isn't funny.
It takes genius to create good humor in the face of this onslaught. For example I think Jeff Dunham's "Achmed the Dead Terrorist" is a brilliant laugh at islamic terrorism. I'd like to see something as good and funny on the current domestic situation here in the U.S.
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:12:50am |
re: #123 American Sabra
So how do you feel about what they did to Don Imus? Pretty much the same thing thing Letterman did, only he was fired.
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albusteve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:13:01am |
re: #137 MrSilverDragon
Q: What time is it when an elephant sits on your fence?
A: Time to get a new fence.
ahahaha!...HU_MOR!
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:13:06am |
re: #85 American Sabra
From the article:
And for me it was more than that... at the risk of beating another boring subject to death. Why do comedians have to apologize for bad jokes? Obviously Brietbart didn't think it was bad. I thought it was stupid. Big deal. Lots of people make stupid, sexist, racist jokes and have been for decades. Now they all have to apologize? This is America for goodness sake.
Yet it seems as if only Republican/ conservative leaning people have to pay for those "big deals"
Letterman makes a joke about a 14 year old getting knocked up by a pro athlete, BIG DEAL
Imus makes a joke about college age bball players, apologizes DIRECTLY TO THEM, THEY accept his apology, yet he gets firedyup,, THATS funny !
Brietbart is dead on about political correctness on the Right. To scary proportions.
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:13:08am |
re: #128 3 wood
The other part of this double standard is that if you challenge a left wing shill to be accurate and back up their spin, you get accused of slurring the President.
By whom?
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SurferDoc Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:13:08am |
I have a sense of humor. I'm going to laugh every time I stick it to them.
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:13:13am |
re: #112 nikis-knight
The near death of...
okay, that was pretty funny.wait, you weren't being serious, were you?
The point, if you were following, is what gets your panties in a wad. People upset about a war or the patriot act which was about our civil liberties is serious stuff. You may not agree, thought the war and the Patriot Act was justified, and that's fine. But that kind of outrage is understandable because it addresses serious issues. Getting pissed at a comedian for a stupid joke doesn't come close IMO.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:13:34am |
re: #135 FurryOldGuyJeans
Luck, luck, luck. :)
Sitting here in my business suit, makeup, good shoes (flats), trying not to hyperventilate.
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Gearhead Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:13:38am |
re: #132 lincolntf
US Navy ships "have intercepted" the ship according to the news. Don't know if they mean we physically stopped it or what.
Li'l Kim's reaction ought to be interesting.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:13:39am |
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:13:44am |
re: #140 soxfan4life
So how do you feel about what they did to Don Imus? Pretty much the same thing thing Letterman did, only he was fired.
That piece by Stephen Crowder must have been misplaced.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:13:47am |
"Just the other day Joe Biden was at a Nationals game. Yeah, it got a little awkward during the seventh inning stretch when his daughter tried to snort the foul line."
Impossible.
Obama got there first.
/rim shot!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:14:10am |
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drcordell Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:14:35am |
re: #110 kynna
You really, truly believe that juicy Democrat scandals are buried by the media? For christ sakes, Bill Clinton was impeached by the House because of a scandal related to a blowjob. Yes, I know it was the perjury and not the beej that was illegal. But regardless, his knobber was literally front page news for an entire year.
The "media" (I hate using that gross generalization) is looking for one thing. Money. They get money by getting viewers/readers. And they get viewers/readers by latching onto any scandal they can, Dem or Repub.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:14:49am |
re: #131 A.W.
But wait, its still appropriate to attack Sarah for Bristol's pregnancy
He attacks her for having a baby out of wedlock when he's had a baby.......out of wedlock?
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opnion Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:14:49am |
re: #119 Nevergiveup
I think you miss the point. Many of us were disgusted by Letterman's joke, but by and large he is what he is and I like others just don't watch him. But the fact that the MSM treat Democrats one way and Republicans another way is what infuriated many of us. Liberals and Liberal causes are out of bounds, while Republicans and Conservative causes are not and we conservatives should just get a sense of humor?
A perfect example of what your talking about is Howard Dean during the Campaign.
He clearly said that any mention of Obama and Reverend Wright is racist. Actually any criticism of Obama in some quarters was viewed as hate speech & Claire McCaskil (sp) tried to outlaw it in Missouri.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:14:55am |
A Democrat, a Republican, a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar...
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lincolntf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:14:58am |
re: #148 Gearhead
Very.
I really wish they'd be more specific about what's going on. I suppose I'm just being impatient, but I'd like to know if we've actually stopped the ship or if we're following/shadowing it.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:15:03am |
Gorilla wields knife left behind at zoo enclosure
Jun. 18, 2009 06:47 AM
Associated Press
CALGARY, Alberta - It may look like gorilla warfare, but officials say the knife-wielding primate photographed by visitors to the Calgary Zoo had no violent intent.
The photos show a gorilla, named Barika, clutching the blade and pointing it at another gorilla in her cage.
The knife was accidently left behind by a keeper who entered the enclosure to prepare food, Cathy Gaviller, the zoo's director of conservation, education and research said Wednesday.
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Pianobuff Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:15:04am |
re: #121 capitalist piglet
If you think the Letterman joke was bad, you should have heard Bill Maher's defense of it.
He then went on talking about how Letterman had invited Sarah Palin and her young daughter, Willow, to appear as guests on his show but the Governor declined because she thought it would be wise to keep her daughter away from him. Said Maher, “…that’s right, he’s 62 years old, he’s gonna f*** her right there on stage…it would be very wise to keep her, very wise, yes. You know, I’d worry a little more about the 18-year old hockey players who knock up your daughters.” To which his audience of trained seals laughed and clapped and had a good old time.
I don't know what's wrong with me, but I just don't find this funny.
Well, Maher hasn't been relevant since, um, well I'm not sure if he's ever been relevant, but notwithstanding he's seen all the press that Letterman has received and wants in on the action since it plays so well with his base.
I think his pass to the Playboy mansion is expired and he's trying to get reinstated.
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haakondahl Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:15:06am |
re: #77 Ben Hur
Waiting for the "There are people dying in Iran, why are we talking about this?" comment.
See? Who says we've lost our sense of humor?
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:15:12am |
re: #137 MrSilverDragon
Q: What time is it when an elephant sits on your fence?
A: Time to get a new fence.
Or something like that. This ones for you Mr. Dragon:
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wee fury Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:15:16am |
This is serious. Not a laughing matter.
The ice is melting -- we will all drown.
The air is polluted -- we will all suffocate.
Crazy nations abound -- we will all expire.
Health care is nil -- nobody will get treated and will pass on.
Children cannot read, write or calculate -- we are doomed.
Laughing at anyone or any political party or individual is considered -- low brow, non-patriotic, unfeeling, and just not funny.
Nothing is funny.
must I? //////
I like Weird Al Yankovic.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:15:21am |
A politician is walking down the road in D.C and a robber jumps out of the bushes and says, " Gimme all of your money!" The politician ask, " Do you know who I am? I am a powerful man in this town. I make policy, important descisions and set budgets." The robber points the gun and says " Gimme all my money."
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albusteve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:15:44am |
David Letterman is the Devil...and his viewers are Evil Apostles
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:16:17am |
re: #157 Alouette
A Democrat, a Republican, a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar...
And according to Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino the punchline was the bartender says get the fuck out.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:16:18am |
re: #157 Alouette
A Democrat, a Republican, a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar...
Was the Republican tapping his shoe on the bathroom floor? I think I heard this one.
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:16:27am |
re: #142 sattv4u2
It was a corporate decision to fire Imus. His employer did what they thought was in their best interest. Corporations are afraid of controversy involving racism as this could lead to boycotts. It is capitalism.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:16:28am |
re: #162 Creeping Eruption
Or something like that. This ones for you Mr. Dragon:
Now that is the true definition of a "bad day".
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Gearhead Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:16:29am |
Do suppose when a member of Al Qaida does something really well, his friends tell him he's "the bomb"?
And before the tomatoes start flying, I have to get back to work.
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experiencedtraveller Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:16:55am |
re: #133 Alouette
Job interview? If it is a private business use these key words:
"You want to help create wealth for the company."
Bingo. Your hired.
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PennStConserv Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:17:27am |
re: #114 FurryOldGuyJeans
This isn't about the apology or her accepting it. It's about whether Palin's reaction (and the GOP's) was warranted. Crowder's argument, and apparently Charles, was that the Palin's and the GOP overreacted to the comments. They didn't. The comments were way out of line and deserved the response they got. That's the only thing we're talking about.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:17:33am |
re: #173 experiencedtraveller
Job interview? If it is a private business use these key words:
"You want to help create wealth for the company."
Bingo. Your hired.
It's a government contract position.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:17:35am |
City to workers: Wear underwear, deodorant
Jun. 18, 2009 06:47 AM
Associated Press
BROOKSVILLE, Fla. - A Florida city is cleaning up with a new dress code that requires city workers to wear underwear and use deodorant.
The city council in Brooksville north of Tampa recently approved a dress code that instructs employees to observe "strict personal hygiene."
It also prohibits exposed underwear, clothing with foul language, "sexually provocative" clothes and piercings anywhere except the ears.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:17:58am |
THE WORLD'S SHORTEST FAIRY TALE
Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl "Will you marry me?" The girl said, "NO!" And the guy lived happily ever after and went fishing, hunting and played golf a lot and drank beer and farted whenever he wanted.
THE END
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:18:13am |
Now, this is funny.
Howard Dean is Obama's John the Baptist.
You can't make this crap up... and people think the GOP goes overboard with the religious rhetoric?
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:18:17am |
re: #169 Flyers1974
It was a corporate decision to fire Imus. His employer did what they thought was in their best interest. Corporations are afraid of controversy involving racism as this could lead to boycotts. It is capitalism.
Apparently controversy surrounding sexism or misogyny is alright.
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:18:20am |
Q: What's the difference between a Democrat and a prostitute?
A: The prostitute gives value for the money she takes.
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albusteve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:18:31am |
back on topic...
Q who is the most famous female singing elephant?
A Ellephants Gerald
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:18:37am |
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:18:37am |
re: #175 Alouette
It's a government contract position.
Tell them you will only pad your bills 50% and it should be a shoe-in. Most contractors are bilking out at about 75 - 1110%./////
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:18:42am |
re: #180 buzzsawmonkey
In that case, tell 'em you want to create poverty for the citizenry.
I'll tell them I want to come in every day and work.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:18:47am |
re: #169 Flyers1974
It was a corporate decision to fire Imus. His employer did what they thought was in their best interest. Corporations are afraid of controversy involving racism as this could lead to boycotts. It is capitalism.
The "corporation" thought it was in their best interest to Fire Imus because the MSM raised a shit storm over his comments. The MSM felt no such urge to condemn Letterman. That is the point!
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:18:54am |
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:19:20am |
Q: What do you do when an elephant comes in your window?
A: Swim.
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joshb Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:19:41am |
The "special Olympics" controversy was asinine, as the author noted. On the other two, I'd just ask how the national press would react if, say, Dennis Miller told similar jokes about President Obama and his family ("supposedly he is still smoking, I hope he gets lung cancer").
Letterman may not have known which Palin daughter was at the Yankees' game. But his writers certainly knew--and they never would have made such a crack about a liberal politician's underage daughter.
The underlying mentality is what's bothersome -- that some people are just so evil in the eyes of the MSM that one can say whatever one wants about them or their families, while other people are the epitome of human perfection and untouchable. It's the double standard that's offensive.
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:20:11am |
re: #140 soxfan4life
So how do you feel about what they did to Don Imus? Pretty much the same thing thing Letterman did, only he was fired.
Well Nappy headed-ho for a bunch of really talented women? That's pretty low rent. I think a lot worse than Letterman. I don't know how I feel about it. He probably shouldn't have gotten fired. Then again if Imus was Black it may have been different. I don't know.
I made this comment on the thread downstairs, pretty much talking to myself at the end there LOL but if you're old enough to remember the Rat Pack and Dean Martin and all those guys, they were pretty raunchy, sexist, racist, nothing was sacred. The difference was that it was mostly in Vegas and you had to go see it. We've gotten worse, not better IMO.
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redstateredneck Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:20:12am |
re: #181 lawhawk
Now, this is funny.
Howard Dean is Obama's John the Baptist.
You can't make this crap up... and people think the GOP goes overboard with the religious rhetoric?
I'm picturing Howard Dean wearing animal skins, growing his hair, and eating locusts and wild honey...that's some funny shit.
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n in wi Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:20:17am |
re: #173 experiencedtraveller
Job interview? If it is a private business use these key words:
"You want to help create wealth for the company."
Bingo. Your hired.
But I thought Government created wealth ?
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:21:08am |
re: #145 American Sabra
The point, if you were following, is what gets your panties in a wad. People upset about a war or the patriot act which was about our civil liberties is serious stuff. You may not agree, thought the war and the Patriot Act was justified, and that's fine. But that kind of outrage is understandable because it addresses serious issues. Getting pissed at a comedian for a stupid joke doesn't come close IMO.
Whether or not the government can see your library books is a serious issue?
The loss of public decency in the name of partisan politics is utterly trivial?
I was following. I just didn't think your point had enough merit to pass without comment.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:21:13am |
Letterman was hilarious in the 80s, especially when Chris Elliott was on the show.
When I was in high school I used to set the vcr every night to tape Letterman and the rerun of SOAP and watch them when I got home from school.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:21:22am |
re: #193 American Sabra
Well Nappy headed-ho for a bunch of really talented women? That's pretty low rent. I think a lot worse than Letterman. I don't know how I feel about it. He probably shouldn't have gotten fired. Then again if Imus was Black it may have been different. I don't know.
I made this comment on the thread downstairs, pretty much talking to myself at the end there LOL but if you're old enough to remember the Rat Pack and Dean Martin and all those guys, they were pretty raunchy, sexist, racist, nothing was sacred. The difference was that it was mostly in Vegas and you had to go see it. We've gotten worse, not better IMO.
I see. Now we get the equivalency/relativistic argument.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:21:27am |
Dirt cheap: Cemetery sells 2 graves for price of 1
Jun. 18, 2009 10:26 AM
Associated Press
INDIANAPOLIS - It's a buy-one, get-one-free sale - at a cemetery, of all places.
Memorial Park Cemetery on Indianapolis' far east side is offering plots at the bargain-basement price in one section of its grounds.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:21:51am |
re: #193 American Sabra
Then again if Imus was Black it may have been different. I don't know.
Is Conan O'Brien Jewish?
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experiencedtraveller Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:21:53am |
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:22:02am |
re: #201 FurryOldGuyJeans
Dirt cheap: Cemetery sells 2 graves for price of 1
Jun. 18, 2009 10:26 AM
Associated Press
Aren't people dying to get in already.
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JustABill Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:22:15am |
re: #187 Alouette
I'll tell them I want to come in every day and work.
Thats how not to get a govt job. You'll make your boss and co-workers look bad...
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PennStConserv Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:22:22am |
re: #116 ihateronpaul
Are you actually contending that calling Sarah Palin a slut on national television, and then joking about banging her daughter, doesn't cross any lines? This isn't about political correctness, or bleeding hearts, just decency. What happened wasn't right, and it wouldn't have been any more right if it was Rush or Glenn Beck, or some other GOP commentator making the same comments about Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, or Michelle Obama.
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:22:48am |
re: #156 opnion
A perfect example of what your talking about is Howard Dean during the Campaign.
He clearly said that any mention of Obama and Reverend Wright is racist. Actually any criticism of Obama in some quarters was viewed as hate speech & Claire McCaskil (sp) tried to outlaw it in Missouri.
Howard Dean is a member of the Democratic Party, not the MSM. That's what political opertives do, create and engage in rhetoric. McCaskil tried to outlaw criticism of Obama in Missouri?
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:23:05am |
re: #205 JustABill
Thats how not to get a govt job. You'll make your boss and co-workers look bad...
Should I emphasize my minority-ness?
(five minutes)
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redstateredneck Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:23:22am |
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albusteve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:23:32am |
re: #199 pink freud
I see. Now we get the equivalency/relativistic argument.
yes excactly...and before that a lecture on what we should consider serious
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n in wi Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:23:33am |
re: #196 ROPMA
You left out anything that would offend homosexual red headed Asians.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:24:07am |
Ah.
Well.
The left has Colbert. You can hate his politics, but he's funny. He even goes and entertains the troops.
And the right?
Anne Coulter. Sarah Jessica Parker without the luscious curves. And funny? If stupid cracks about Christians being "perfected Jews" are high-larious, I can't wait for the next Stormfront Celebrity Roast. At which they literally roast a Jewish celebrity.
But overall, regardless of party, a sense of humor among top politicians is seen as a handicap. You have to be Dead Piously Serious about everything. Bob Dole was a notable exception, as is - love him or hate him - Barney Frank. The rest might as well be androids.
But they sure expect us to have a sense of fun when re-election time comes around. Or a case of American-Idol-induced amnesia. "That thing with the adultery and the kickbacks? Ah, hell, senators will be senators."
And their expectations are usually fully justified. Throw the bums out - except for mine. He gave me a cookie. And his teeth are white.
Ka-ching!
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:24:08am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:24:11am |
Yow, the 9th Circuit actually following the law! What a precedent!
No benefits for LA girl born from dead man's sperm
Jun. 18, 2009 09:52 AM
Associated Press
PASADENA, Calif. - A U.S. appeals court says a California girl conceived from the frozen sperm of a dead man cannot receive his Social Security benefits.
A panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals issued its decision Wednesday, ruling the girl wasn't dependent on her father at the time of his death.
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JustABill Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:24:18am |
re: #201 FurryOldGuyJeans
Dirt cheap: Cemetery sells 2 graves for price of 1
Jun. 18, 2009 10:26 AM
Associated Press
Should be
INDIANAPOLIS - It's a die-one, get-one-free sale - at a cemetery, of all places.
Memorial Park Cemetery on Indianapolis' far east side is offering plots at the bargain-basement price in one section of its grounds.
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:24:32am |
re: #209 Alouette
Tell them you thought about joining the service, but we weren't at war or anything. Unless you were in the service than I say thank you.
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:25:47am |
There has always been a coarseness to the political speech in this country. Has been since day one. Before it even.
Humor? That's been all over the map.
Some things remain beyond the pale, and Letterman crossed that line in talking about Palin's daughters. Apologies were accepted by Gov. Palin. Works for me.
If you want to see a sense of humor, consider that even Democrats are balking at the idea of a trillion dollar health care overhaul.
They're actually concerned about how to pay for the damned thing.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:25:55am |
re: #209 Alouette
Should I emphasize my minority-ness?
(five minutes)
Yes, unless it is that you are Jewish.
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:25:59am |
re: #215 FurryOldGuyJeans
Yow, the 9th Circuit actually following the law! What a precedent!
No benefits for LA girl born from dead man's sperm
Jun. 18, 2009 09:52 AM
Associated Press
Where's the empathy?
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Kenneth Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:26:17am |
re: #138 Gavriel
It takes genius to create good humor in the face of this onslaught. For example I think Jeff Dunham's "Achmed the Dead Terrorist" is a brilliant laugh at islamic terrorism. I'd like to see something as good and funny on the current domestic situation here in the U.S.
How about Adam the Dead Capitalist?
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:26:28am |
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:26:31am |
re: #182 soxfan4life
Yes, to the company's bottom line apparently. I thought the whole thing was way overblown and wished Al Sharpton would shut up before embarrassing the Democrats further. But I can't blame the company for doing what it thought necessary to protect itself.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:26:39am |
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JohnnyReb Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:26:51am |
re: #181 lawhawk
Now, this is funny.
Howard Dean is Obama's John the Baptist.
You can't make this crap up... and people think the GOP goes overboard with the religious rhetoric?
All of this diety talk is beginning to sound truly frightening. I mean this is about the 15th time that I am aware of that Obama has been referred to as some sort of God, diety, lightworker, higher order of human, etc. And that is just from the MSM, not even from the blogs. This is just not right, something is seriously wrong in this country.
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:27:04am |
re: #213 Cato the Elder
Ann Coulter is hardly the funniest conservative. The South Park guys and Mike Judge of King of the Hill for pop culture examples; there's Dennis Miller, and Mark Steyn drips wit.
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:27:28am |
re: #197 nikis-knight
I think you're missing the point and you think I'm missing the point so maybe we're at a standstill.
Let's put it this way. It's ok to be outraged over government policy. You agree, others disagree, whatever. It's not just "OK" it's completely and totally AMERICAN. No matter what the policy is. The fellow upthread was mad beacuse the Dems were pissed for 8 years and no one complained about them not having a sense of humor. It's not anywhere near the same thing as being upset over a joke by a comedian.
I'm sorry you can't see my point.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:27:31am |
re: #206 PennStConserv
Are you actually contending that calling Sarah Palin a slut on national television, and then joking about banging her daughter, doesn't cross any lines? This isn't about political correctness, or bleeding hearts, just decency. What happened wasn't right, and it wouldn't have been any more right if it was Rush or Glenn Beck, or some other GOP commentator making the same comments about Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, or Michelle Obama.
I think I threw up in my mouth just a bit.
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SFGoth Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:27:39am |
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:27:51am |
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albusteve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:28:01am |
Q how do you make an elephant fly?
A start with a 4 foot zipper
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:28:28am |
re: #213 Cato the Elder
I was shocked, shocked, to find out that Bob Dole is one funny guy. He did a few appearances on SNL a long time back and did a great job.
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lincolntf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:28:40am |
re: #232 Unakite
I was hoping he'd get to us. Say what you want about the Irish, we can take a joke.
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songbird Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:28:56am |
re: #201 FurryOldGuyJeans
Dirt cheap: Cemetery sells 2 graves for price of 1
Jun. 18, 2009 10:26 AM
Associated Press
Is that a 'die one, get one free' special?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:28:58am |
re: #228 nikis-knight
Ann Coulter is hardly the funniest conservative. The South Park guys and Mike Judge of King of the Hill for pop culture examples; there's Dennis Miller, and Mark Steyn drips wit.
I always liked Michael Graham's radio show (until the local station fired him.) I thought he was one of the funnier conservative talk show hosts. Monica Crowley and Tammy Bruce can be pretty funny. Apparently Bob Burden (creator of The Flaming Carrot) is pretty conservative.
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jarheadlifer Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:29:28am |
re: #7 pink freud
So ...the Special Olympic remarks, the tawdry Wanda Sykes remarks, and the Letterman remarks really were funny.
/Got it.
Yes, indeedy. I get it. They're funny, we're not. They're urbane and erudite when they pick on kids and wish death on people, and we're right-wing extremists when we do the same. Ground rules understood.
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jorline Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:29:40am |
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Big Steve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:29:52am |
The Obama bowling comment....yawn! Wanda Sykes....who cares. But as a Dad with a teenage daughter, the Palin daughter/Rodriquez joke.....I'd be in jail now having upper-cutted Letterman a good one.
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SFGoth Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:30:17am |
re: #232 Unakite
Didn't offend us Irish-Americans. :P
"For six days you shall labour and do all your work."
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:30:25am |
re: #229 American Sabra
Not seeing and not agreeing are two different things. But yes, I would agree that "not having a sense of humor" isn't the best description of liberal activists the last eight years. I'd go for "completely unhinged loons".
Also, one can have a sense of humor and not find bad jokes funny in the same way one can have a sense of smell and not find feces pleasant.
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soxfan4life Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:30:26am |
re: #238 Mad Al-Jaffee
I always liked Michael Graham's radio show (until the local station fired him.) I thought he was one of the funnier conservative talk show hosts. Monica Crowley and Tammy Bruce can be pretty funny. Apparently Bob Burden (creator of The Flaming Carrot) is pretty conservative.
Micheal Graham is up here in Boston and we love him. You can live stream him at wtkk.com or go to his natural truth blog.
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freedomplow Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:31:46am |
Pretty sure liberal parents of Special Olympics children were offended...
Pretty sure liberal parents of teenage daughters were offended.
This has nothing to do outraged right wingers and everything to do with not being critical of O.
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n in wi Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:31:47am |
re: #232 Unakite
Didn't offend us Irish-Americans. :P
God offered them to the Irish.
The Irish asked"How much?"
God said they were free.
The Irish took them, but got pissy eyed drunk, and forgot them at the pub.
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hokiepride Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:32:44am |
Oh please,
As if lefties and the Dems have a great sense of humor. Why is it that the GOP must always be "humorous" and take sick jokes lying down. Imagine if a right wing host made a similar comment about Chelsea Clinton.
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Unakite Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:33:16am |
re: #236 lincolntf
I was hoping he'd get to us. Say what you want about the Irish, we can take a joke.
Oops!
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haakondahl Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:33:56am |
re: #127 albusteve
Q how do you get down off an elphant?
A you don't, you get down off a goose
Not Funny.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:34:17am |
re: #236 lincolntf
I was hoping he'd get to us. Say what you want about the Irish, we can take a joke.
Only because you're all usually too drunk to get it when it's told.
/any tag really needed here?/
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Salamantis Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:34:27am |
re: #236 lincolntf
I was hoping he'd get to us. Say what you want about the Irish, we can take a joke.
Most definitely; look at the lasses we marry!
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:34:47am |
I think I'll repost what I said on the other thread, just so you can give me more downdings because I know how much you all love me.
I have to go after this so I'll come back after everyone's gone, I'm sure :(
I think the Republican party should start a new department called "The Dept of Laughology" or maybe "The Dept of Whiny Pansy Asses" since they're so concerned about what people say, do and who they screw. We really need to know what is funny and/or acceptable and what isn't. Actually, what they should do is make all the comedians submit their jokes beforehand so they can be properly critiqued and edited so no one is offended. First on the list of course is NO JOKES ABOUT THE PALIN CHILDREN. Clinton's child is totally ok however. You can remark how ugly and dog-like Chelsea is all day long. Obama's kids? Totally offlimits until they're of dating age, at least 14 and then only if they aren't about sex or ethinicity. If Sasha ends up with saggy arms, it's fine to point and giggle.
You can joke about Bush's daughters and Meaghan McCain because they're gorgeous women and every U.S. Red Blooded American Male wants to fuck them so they get a complete pass ONLY if the jokes are positive. You can't make negative jokes about pretty girls. Only the ugly ones.
We really need to do this, because I'm sick of comedians crossing the line and getting away with senseless jokes. This has been going on for decades and no one is apologizing to anyone. Thank God Palin made such a stink out of it for an entire week and forced Letterman to apologize. We should force all comedians to apologize when they insult Republican politicians people because the American public is too stupid to figure out how to move on, change the channel, or simply not listen to jokes which aren't the least bit funny.
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Big Steve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:34:54am |
re: #250 hokiepride
Oh please,
As if lefties and the Dems have a great sense of humor. Why is it that the GOP must always be "humorous" and take sick jokes lying down. Imagine if a right wing host made a similar comment about Chelsea Clinton.
Lets leave Chelsea out of this, she has her father's looks and her mother's hips.....she has enough problems.
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SecondComing Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:35:03am |
Imagine a joke about Sasha or Malia having sex with Arod in Yankee stadium.
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A.W. Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:35:03am |
re: #155 Ben Hur
He attacks her for having a baby out of wedlock when he's had a baby.......out of wedlock?
Right. and in case it is not obvious, i am responding to argument of those who say it is okay to attack bristol, as dave claimed he was doing.
As for the out of wedlock thing, i got that from jim treacher and wikipedia backs it up. you can't trust wikipedia on everything, but there you go. [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
And it seems to be backed up by these links:
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
Anyway, I am glad David married his baby-momma, but to attack bristol was low, and in addition hypocritical.
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opnion Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:35:12am |
re: #207 Flyers1974
Howard Dean is a member of the Democratic Party, not the MSM. That's what political opertives do, create and engage in rhetoric. McCaskil tried to outlaw criticism of Obama in Missouri?
During the Campaign she & another Missouri pol did indeed try to make Obama crticism illegal.
It didn't fly but she did try.
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capitalist piglet Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:35:16am |
re: #160 Pianobuff
Well, Maher hasn't been relevant since, um, well I'm not sure if he's ever been relevant, but notwithstanding he's seen all the press that Letterman has received and wants in on the action since it plays so well with his base.
I think his pass to the Playboy mansion is expired and he's trying to get reinstated.
You know, relevancy aside, his audience laughed. They laughed, when he invoked the image of a man in his sixties "f***ing" a child on stage.
I am pretty serious around here, but in real life, I honestly do have a very healthy sense of humor...but I have to say, Maher deserves to be drummed off the air for putting the word "f***" together with an grown man and a child.
But his (no doubt liberal) audience laughed.
What is happening to this country?
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:35:20am |
re: #188 Nevergiveup
The "corporation" thought it was in their best interest to Fire Imus because the MSM raised a shit storm over his comments. The MSM felt no such urge to condemn Letterman. That is the point!
The Imus story was huge news to the New York Post, not exactly a liberal newspaper. And this Palin story has been everywhere, hardly limited to blogs, and Fox news.
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SFGoth Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:35:42am |
re: #256 Big Steve
Lets leave Chelsea out of this, she has her father's looks and her mother's hips.....she has enough problems.
You'd rather she have Bill's hips and Hill's face? That's harsh.
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ladycatnip Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:36:19am |
The guy who wrote this article is nothing more than an apologist for leftist skanky behavior. I disagree with everything he said. Oh well, he's not gonna lose any sleep over my opinion.
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happycamper Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:36:36am |
Can anybody say "nappy headed ho"?
Humor... it's a funny thing.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:36:54am |
re: #256 Big Steve
Lets leave Chelsea out of this, she has her father's looks and her mother's hips.....she has enough problems.
I think she turned out pretty cute.
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Salamantis Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:37:52am |
re: #265 Mad Al-Jaffee
I think she turned out pretty cute.
Chelsea turned out cuter than Amy Carter. And more level-headed, too.
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Big Steve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:38:59am |
re: #266 Salamantis
Chelsea turned out cuter than Amy Carter. And more level-headed, too.
I had the hots for Susan Ford when her Dad was President. There....just dated myself.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:39:01am |
I went to a Republican Party meeting last night. The chairman closed with a joke:
A man is sitting in a bar in an unfamiliar town. Barack Obama comes on the TV screen, and, unable to control himself, the man exclaims, "Obama is a horse's ass!" A fellow patron of the bar walks over to him and decks him.The man gets up, rubs his jaw, and orders another beer. In a little while, Michelle Obama appears on the TV screen, and the man yells, "Michelle Obama is a horse's ass too!" A third patron comes from the back of the barroom and decks him.
The man gets up, gets back on his bar stool, and asks the bartender, "I guess this is Obama Country around here, eh?" The bartender says, "No, it's horse country."
The joke isn't all that funny. But it was a good meeting, with enthusiasm, record attendance, and the setting of lofty goals. We'll work on the humor next.
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arf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:39:06am |
Whatever outrage or lack of humor you see about this would be multiplied a thousandfold if someone from the right had said that about the Obama kids. About Chelsea. If anybody from the right had made the Special Olympics crack.
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LGoPs Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:39:34am |
I find Liberals, at their core, to be completely humorless (I have it on good authority that the Borg have more sense of humor than your average liberal..../). I rarely if ever see shrillness or vitriol on the conservative side that comes anywhere near what the left pumps out regularly.
The left uses humor as a thinly vieled attack venue, making excuses for it with fake indignation that 'it was only a joke' when they are called on it.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:39:53am |
re: #266 Salamantis
Chelsea turned out cuter than Amy Carter. And more level-headed, too.
I'd knock her up.
Doh!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:40:57am |
re: #268 Big Steve
I had the hots for Susan Ford when her Dad was President. There....just dated myself.
If you "date" yourself too much, you can go blind.
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subsailor68 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:41:28am |
Well, the most important thing in comedy is
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:41:35am |
re: #255 American Sabra
I think the Republican party should start a new department called "The Dept of Laughology" or maybe "The Dept of Whiny Pansy Asses" since they're so concerned about what people say, do and who they screw.
Wait, so Letterman is a republican? Being concerned with screwing, and all.
This is hardly an issue where republicans come off looking worse--controlling people, that is. Who has campus speech codes? Who enacts strict laws about smoking, transfats, vehicle mileage, regulating every sector of buisiness? Or is how one makes and spends money exempted from freedom?
And since when do only republicans care who's screwing who, so long as they aren't doing it while on the job that we the people employ them at? Did republicans dig up dirt on edwards? Was Larry Craig left alone?
Eh, whatever. I think I'll take your advice and just downding you.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:41:36am |
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:41:58am |
re: #250 hokiepride
Oh please,
As if lefties and the Dems have a great sense of humor. Why is it that the GOP must always be "humorous" and take sick jokes lying down. Imagine if a right wing host made a similar comment about Chelsea Clinton.
Many liberals are indeed into the PC nonsense. Why copy that behavior? Isn't that supposed to be part of the appeal of conservatives, the lack of pc nonsense. Or is that distinction false, and what really determines who is offended are the political affiliations of the people involved in the joke/comment?
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Big Steve Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:42:32am |
re: #275 Mad Al-Jaffee
If you "date" yourself too much, you can go blind.
well that's about all thinking of Susan Ford ever got me anyway!
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redc1c4 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:42:53am |
re: #7 pink freud
So ...the Special Olympic remarks, the tawdry Wanda Sykes remarks, and the Letterman remarks really were funny.
/Got it.
it's all in the nuance. %-)
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haakondahl Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:43:09am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:43:21am |
"Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die."
-Mel Brooks
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A.W. Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:43:54am |
Btw, one more thing. since when has it been that the only people offended by the special olympics joke on the right? i seem to remember one of the kennedys, who was heavily involved in that, getting mad too. For that matter, even NOW was offended by the letterman joke.
And, gee, the left has been even more thin skinned. A man riffs on the story of the rampaging chimp being the author of the stimulus package, and someone goes "omg, they just compared obama to a chimp!" yeah, except obama didn't write it, either. By comparison even the joke Letterman probably intended to tell, that bristol got knocked up, was offensive as an attack on her family.
i mean years ago on SNL, Wayne's world did a joke where they listed the hottest chicks around. They reveal one and go "Chelsea Cllinton... NOT! No way man! She is a total dog!" Big uproar, and SNL said, paraphrase, "you know what? it wasn't right to put her down." they not only apologized, they censored it out of every rerun. And I said at the time it was the right thing to do. Just because your dad is president doesn't make it okay for people to pick on you.
I just want the same respect extended to bristol palin. and joe biden's daughter, for that matter.
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LGoPs Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:43:56am |
re: #280 Flyers1974
Many liberals are indeed into the PC nonsense. Why copy that behavior? Isn't that supposed to be part of the appeal of conservatives, the lack of pc nonsense. Or is that distinction false, and what really determines who is offended are the political affiliations of the people involved in the joke/comment?
I think that pointing out the PC nonsense and taking umbrage at the double standard in its application is not the same as copying it.
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Scion9 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:43:59am |
As others have noted, it isn't about a lack of humor, so much as it is about hypocrisy. People are going to continue to balk at this kind of 'comedy' because it is being used to craft a message. If George Carlin was telling jokes about Palin, I seriously doubt you would see the same outrage because he would never be seen
The messengers aside, the outrage isn't over exerting or crafting 'political correctness' but battling the current nature of PC that is literally anything goes if it hurts the GOP.
If I make a joke about Condie Rice being the Bush house n****r I'm absolutely without a doubt not racist by PC standards. If I make a joke about any of Obama's gaffes or policies I almost definitely am a racist by PC standards. No one approaching sanity or decency should be ok with this, but that is basically the way it is.
The newest crop of hit-piece humor is overwhelming directed against conservative women (the Playboy "Hate Fuck" article being imo even lower than the Letterman quip), with basically the same thrust as the way black conservatives are treated. You must have to be crazy, stupid, or seriously convicted to even want to give the appearance of being pro-GOP as a minority, but especially if you are black. Any conservative that doesn't want the same situation replicated, where it is socially acceptable to absolutely verbally ravage and demonize women for not having the 'correct' political views shouldn't feel ashamed of putting their foot down.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:44:20am |
re: #261 Flyers1974
The Imus story was huge news to the New York Post, not exactly a liberal newspaper. And this Palin story has been everywhere, hardly limited to blogs, and Fox news.
It was huge everywhere and rabble rousers who weekend as politicians marched to get Imus fired. It was a national story. Even politicians who were "friendly" with Imus dove for cover.
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Ziggy Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:44:33am |
The "Special Olympics" crack was pretty funny and they should have know what they were getting when they booked Wanda Sykes, but Letterman was WAY over the line. It didn't matter if he thought he was joking about the older daughter, kids should be off limits. Let's see how a crack about any of the Obama kids goes over. Having said that, an entirely to big of a deal was made about this. Although you could make a case for lack of Republican sense of humor, there should be no doubt about the glaring double standard that is generally applied when it comes to conservatives vs. progressives. This is only a side show. It's a distraction that both parties would love us to engage in, that way we won't pay attention to how badly they are all fucking us.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:44:47am |
September 2, 2001 - US Weekly quotes Jennifer Aniston, who talked about how Brad teased Jenna Bush when she intered at the couple's management company saying, "We'd pass her in the hall and Brad would say, 'Hey Jenna, wanna beer? I got one in the truck!'"
Because hollywood liberals don't do drugs.
Liberal presidents don't do drugs.
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hazzyday Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:44:49am |
One man's meat is another man's poison. I tend to disagree with Steven here. This is just karma. Rush has certainly tried to humorously make political points only to get slammed for their misinterpretations. Ann Coulter has certainly attempted humorous hyperbole that falls deafly on Steven's ears.
People are abhorred that anyone would joke about Obama. To me Steven here is just playing from the Obama playbook. Find a way to handicap the opposition while you do the same yourself.
The world evolves. Making jokes about "retards" and thinking it's ok to do so is no longer socially correct. People who think it is aren't with it. The President falls into that callous category of unenlightened persons. He of the diverse background. Steven here shows himself to be one of the unapologetic callous. The role today in society is to help and enable the developmentally disabled. They are an innocent set of people who do not warrant Steven's coldness or anyone elses. Unless it's in private company humor does have boundaries. Yes ego maniacs always wish to push them.
Letterman had a history of making political statements and public observations hiding behind the role of comedian. "Hey it was just a joke" He's the Jimmy Carter of comedy. Part of the goal of the GoP is to take back some of the MSM and get rid of the bias. Here is the low hanging fruit. Letterman. The person who adulterated Bill O'Reilly's coffee before he came on stage. And again it's inappropriate to make jokes to a nationwide audience on Arod having sex with Willow. Yes he meant Willow not Bristol. That's par for the Letterman course. Letterman is a little more than just a comedian trying to be funny. He's also trying to be cruel. I'm sorry Steven finds that funny.
The joke was worth a chuckle.
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JohnnyReb Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:47:10am |
re: #259 opnion
During the Campaign she & another Missouri pol did indeed try to make Obama crticism illegal.
It didn't fly but she did try.
IIRC is was a District Attorney and her that tried to make it against the law to criticize Obama. Something about "truth squads"
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:48:03am |
re: #288 Nevergiveup
It was huge everywhere and rabble rousers who weekend as politicians marched to get Imus fired. It was a national story. Even politicians who were "friendly" with Imus dove for cover.
That is exactly what they were. Like Sharpton trying to get paid.
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:48:10am |
re: #113 drcordell
The GOP has controlled Congress or the White House nearly uninterrupted from Nixon till W.
Except for that period from 1952-1994 when the Democrats controlled Congress.
Dude, you're consistently short on facts, or stretch them to fit your bias.
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Land Shark Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:48:41am |
re: #92 American Sabra
But the Democrats were enraged over more than just the Patriot Act. I seem to recall they were enraged by just about anything.
Still, my original point still stands, if the incidents mentioned had been done by conservatives saying the exact same things about liberals and/or their families, the article would have been about how cruel those mean conservatives were in making those jokes and how they had crossed lines they shouldn't have crossed.
They can dish it out but they can't take it.
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hazzyday Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:49:54am |
re: #268 Big Steve
I had the hots for Susan Ford when her Dad was President. There....just dated myself.
I also thought Chelsa and Amy were attractive. I never heard of the "dog" joke untill McCain opponents started to play it.
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n in wi Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:50:04am |
Jokes being funny or inappropriate aside, I am glad to see some pushing back on the Republican's part. That goes for Bush's criticism of Obama in PA. as well as Palin's.
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lobo91 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:50:28am |
I'll regain my sense of humor as soon as I find a new job that pays at least half what I was making before the Army decided it was too expensive to keep paying me.
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hazzyday Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:50:49am |
Peta thinks Obama killing a fly is cruel. That's launching some humor that is bi partisan.
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LGoPs Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:51:10am |
re: #288 Nevergiveup
It was huge everywhere and rabble rousers who weekend as politicians marched to get Imus fired. It was a national story. Even politicians who were "friendly" with Imus dove for cover.
I know a rabble rouser who actually got elected President.
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:51:54am |
re: #301 LGoPs
I know a rabble rouser who actually got elected President.
Bite your tongue, they are called community organizers by the non-racist!
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HippieforLife Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:51:57am |
How funny is this after hearing SENATOR Barbara Boxer tell a Brig Gen to call her senator instead of ma'am.
That's a real knee slapper!
Why was Letterman even thinking about bashing Governor Palin when she was in town for a charitable cause? And, does he ever refer to her as Governor?
He made crude comments about a 14 year old girl and tried to pass it off by saying he was talking about the 18 year old daughter. Oh, I get it now. Still not funny.
Lack of a sense of humor is not relagated to just one party. Some dems are still laughing at Governor Palin saying she could she Russia from her front porch. Only problem, she did not say it. Oh, I am laughing so hard my sides hurt.
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hazzyday Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:52:11am |
The Obama kids should be off limits for MSM humor until they are 18. Let them enjoy their time as kids. Poke fun at the parents, not at the kids.
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:52:41am |
re: #296 Land Shark
But the Democrats were enraged over more than just the Patriot Act. I seem to recall they were enraged by just about anything.
Still, my original point still stands, if the incidents mentioned had been done by conservatives saying the exact same things about liberals and/or their families, the article would have been about how cruel those mean conservatives were in making those jokes and how they had crossed lines they shouldn't have crossed.
They can dish it out but they can't take it.
Yes they were. Do you not see the similarities in behavior?
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LGoPs Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:53:03am |
re: #300 hazzyday
Peta thinks Obama killing a fly is cruel. That's launching some humor that is bi partisan.
Didn't Rush say he wishes he was a fly on the wall in some of Obama's meetings? I'll bet that's why Obama smashed that fly........."gotta squash Rush"
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Ziggy Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:53:07am |
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legalpad Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:53:54am |
A sense of humor is one thing, and the Democrats definitely don't have it with regard to themselves. Fairly unlimited hatred dishonestly concealed as "a joke" is another thing. I really hate passive-aggressive weasels.
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Scion9 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:54:08am |
re: #287 Scion9
As others have noted, it isn't about a lack of humor, so much as it is about hypocrisy. People are going to continue to balk at this kind of 'comedy' because it is being used to craft a message. If George Carlin was telling jokes about Palin, I seriously doubt you would see the same outrage because he would never be seen
Ugh. Something keeps going wonky with either my formatting or my brain.
Should read, "If George Carlin was telling jokes about Palin, I seriously doubt you would see the same outrage because he would never be seen as a partisan political operative."
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:54:48am |
As a right of center Independent, I have no problem with poking fun at pols from both sides. And I try to handle rebukes from others (as well as occasional down dings) with grace and humor. I think many GOP types would be happy to "lighten up," but before that happens, those comedians need to understand that they need to become "equal opportunity bashers." When one side is always on the receiving end of insults, while the other side is treated with kid gloves, the targets tend to lose their sense of humor. Americans have a great sense of humor, but they also have a sense of fair play. And that is part of the equation here.
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:55:20am |
re: #295 JammieWearingFool
Except for that period from 1952-1994 when the Democrats controlled Congress.
Dude, you're consistently short on facts, or stretch them to fit your bias.
Many of those Democrats had nothing to do with liberals. They were southern democrats. That is why those Democratic seats are now Republican seats.
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Land Shark Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:55:24am |
re: #304 hazzyday
I agree 100%. I won't make jokes about them even after they turn 18.
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LGoPs Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:55:58am |
re: #309 legalpad
A sense of humor is one thing, and the Democrats definitely don't have it with regard to themselves. Fairly unlimited hatred dishonestly concealed as "a joke" is another thing. I really hate passive-aggressive weasels.
It really is a coward's way to make your argument. Make an ugly comment, disguise it as a joke and then get all self-righteous when someone calls you on it.
Bastards.
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A.W. Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:56:13am |
re: #304 hazzyday
The Obama kids should be off limits for MSM humor until they are 18. Let them enjoy their time as kids. Poke fun at the parents, not at the kids.
I would take that further. completely out of bounds until 18, and still out of bounds unless they make themselve into a significant political force of their own. And no, that doesn't even include speaking in favor of daddy at the convention. Like my point with the biden's daughter joke above was to say that even though she was an adult, even though you can make a good joke about her being a cokehead, its still inappropriate to tell it.
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LGoPs Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:59:05am |
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Land Shark Thu, Jun 18, 2009 11:59:27am |
re: #306 Flyers1974
I see similarities in the behaviour, but I don't see any similarity when one side is told they need a sense of humor while the other side isn't. It's funny haha and they need a sense of humor when the targets are Republican, it's not funny haha and they crossed the line when the target are Democrats.
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nyc redneck Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:00:11pm |
the left isn't a bit funny to me. too serious and coming from an angry bitchy victim mentality.
and too much of an agenda to say anything to skewer conservatives at the expense of real humor.
if you want to laugh, listen to rush. he will crack you up.
and you'll learn something.
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:01:24pm |
I think it's worth pointing out that funny and offensive are not mutually exclusive, and serious isn't the opposite of funny, but of trivial.
One can find something funny, but still criticize it as inappropriate to be said by a president or in public.
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scottishbuzzsaw Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:02:03pm |
re: #316 LGoPs
Inconceivable!
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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tryagain Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:02:34pm |
So the Dems can be offended but the GOP can't? Why should a party unilaterally surrender an effective weapon - especially one used so brilliantly by your opponent?
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:03:31pm |
re: #309 legalpad
A sense of humor is one thing, and the Democrats definitely don't have it with regard to themselves. Fairly unlimited hatred dishonestly concealed as "a joke" is another thing. I really hate passive-aggressive weasels.
Can you explain how the Republicans' sense of humor in regard to themselves, differs from the Democrats' sense of humor?
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legalpad Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:03:57pm |
re: #319 nikis-knight
Good point. Some jokes need to be genuinely private. I.e. what might be funny to some who live in a rough, even deadly environment, might seem brutal to others. And they would probably be right.
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:04:42pm |
re: #322 Flyers1974
Can you explain how the Republicans' sense of humor in regard to themselves, differs from the Democrats' sense of humor?
President Bush making fun of himself at the WH correspondant's dinner while he was president.
A comedian making fun of republicans at the WH correspondant's dinner while Obama is president.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:06:17pm |
Did any comedians/talk show hosts make jokes about Al Gore's son driving drunk (or was it high, or both?) I don't remember hearing any.
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wiffersnapper Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:06:17pm |
I think GOP does have a sense of humor. He's called Ron Paul.
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legalpad Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:06:55pm |
re: #322 Flyers1974
Can you explain how the Republicans' sense of humor in regard to themselves, differs from the Democrats' sense of humor?
No. My observations on humor are just random things that occur to me. I'm not too funny myself, and I sometimes forget how normal people think. I do recall being disappointed in some conservatives when I felt their humor was out of line. I don't know if I joke about things I hate or not. Sometimes I can't see myself.
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hazzyday Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:07:14pm |
re: #92 American Sabra
It's quite one thing to be enraged about a war or the Patriot Act and the near death of civil liberties, or at least worrying about it. It's quite another to be enraged over a stupid comedian whose job it is to insult people.
Letterman skewers people all the time and also invites politicians on the show during election season. He is a good representation of the MSM. In his views, his actions, and his poor humor. It's quite appropriate to point out to him that he shouldn't be joking about what amounts to statutory rape of a politicians child. Maybe castigating him a lot will bring some civility to the democratic voting populace.
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:07:57pm |
re: #317 Land Shark
I see similarities in the behaviour, but I don't see any similarity when one side is told they need a sense of humor while the other side isn't. It's funny haha and they need a sense of humor when the targets are Republican, it's not funny haha and they crossed the line when the target are Democrats.
I don't know if I buy that one side is not told they need a sense of humor. I think that during the Imus debacle, conservatives acted in the exact same manner. Every newspaper that allowed comments on their on-line edition was filled with conservatives telling the Dems to stop whining. Which personally, I agreed with . It did not seem to me, a national news story.
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:10:33pm |
re: #312 Flyers1974
Many of those Democrats had nothing to do with liberals. They were southern democrats. That is why those Democratic seats are now Republican seats.
Nice try. The Democrats still held an overwhelming advantage in the House for decades.
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happycamper Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:10:36pm |
Park one car on a street in a predominately democrat/liberal neighborhood with a McCain/Palin bumper sticker. Park another car on a street in a predominately republican/conservative neighborhood with an Obama/Biden bumper sticker.
The only laughter you'll hear is that from the democrat/liberal crowd as they watch the McCain/Palin car get keyed. So you see, libs do have a better sense of humor.
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AZDave Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:10:37pm |
Why does the GOP need a sense of humor when the world's biggest joke is sitting in the White House?
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:11:19pm |
re: #327 legalpad
If you felt that way when conservatives made those jokes, then at least your view is consistent. My problem is with those who are offended only when their side is the victim.
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redstateredneck Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:11:29pm |
re: #325 Mad Al-Jaffee
Did any comedians/talk show hosts make jokes about Al Gore's son driving drunk (or was it high, or both?) I don't remember hearing any.
Nope. Didn't hear any either.
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Gavriel Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:12:04pm |
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:13:10pm |
re: #330 JammieWearingFool
I never said they did not, no trying here. Do you suppose those house seats in alabama, mississsippi, louisiana, georgia were liberal?
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legalpad Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:14:52pm |
re: #333 Flyers1974
If you felt that way when conservatives made those jokes, then at least your view is consistent. My problem is with those who are offended only when their side is the victim.
Yeah, I agree. I think to insult your opponent weakens your argument. It indicates that you can not think of a really effective argument. I am disappointed when there are good points to make but they are replaced by an insult or a drowned-out. And most political opponents are good people who do not need to be insulted.
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redstateredneck Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:14:59pm |
re: #336 Flyers1974
I never said they did not, no trying here. Do you suppose those house seats in alabama, mississsippi, louisiana, georgia were liberal?
That's lib'ral.
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ihateronpaul Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:15:39pm |
re: #206 PennStConserv
Are you actually contending that calling Sarah Palin a slut on national television, and then joking about banging her daughter, doesn't cross any lines? This isn't about political correctness, or bleeding hearts, just decency. What happened wasn't right, and it wouldn't have been any more right if it was Rush or Glenn Beck, or some other GOP commentator making the same comments about Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, or Michelle Obama.
No, I think it is about decency and was an awful comment. I just think it is dumb how in the case of dog the bounty hunter he was defended on the grounds of "political incorrectness"
Conservatives always guffaw about liberals being "offended" by race related jokes and things like that. Well the shoe fits.
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:15:46pm |
re: #324 nikis-knight
President Bush making fun of himself at the WH correspondant's dinner while he was president.
A comedian making fun of republicans at the WH correspondant's dinner while Obama is president.
I wasn't clear, sorry. I was referring to people like us, the ones arguing over this, not individual politicians.
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doubter4444 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:16:31pm |
re: #324 nikis-knight
President Bush making fun of himself at the WH correspondant's dinner while he was president.
A comedian making fun of republicans at the WH correspondant's dinner while Obama is president.
Huh?
That comment makes less sense than usual.
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hazzyday Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:17:58pm |
re: #190 Ben Hur
Q: What do you do when an elephant comes in your window?
A: Swim.
I don't get it. I must be a democrat.
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debutaunt Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:19:16pm |
re: #198 Mad Al-Jaffee
Letterman was hilarious in the 80s, especially when Chris Elliott was on the show.
When I was in high school I used to set the vcr every night to tape Letterman and the rerun of SOAP and watch them when I got home from school.
I loved the Foulmouth Librarian skit.
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:19:50pm |
re: #340 Flyers1974
I wasn't clear, sorry. I was referring to people like us, the ones arguing over this, not individual politicians.
In that case, I don't know (not that you asked me). It's a rare person that can laugh at themselves. R's do have a lot more chances to laugh at jokes at their expense in this culture, though.
re: #342 doubter4444
Huh?
That comment makes less sense than usual.
Didn't know I had a reputation for senselessness. Let me be more clear: President Bush has shown a greater ability to laugh at himself than President Obama, though Obama is admittedly much newer in the public eye.
Make sense now?
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doubter4444 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:20:05pm |
re: #331 happycamper
Park one car on a street in a predominately democrat/liberal neighborhood with a McCain/Palin bumper sticker. Park another car on a street in a predominately republican/conservative neighborhood with an Obama/Biden bumper sticker.
The only laughter you'll hear is that from the democrat/liberal crowd as they watch the McCain/Palin car get keyed. So you see, libs do have a better sense of humor.
You know, it's crap like this that proves a point.
That's not funny, it's not true and it's churlish.
If that's your idea of a good joke, don't quite your day job, as the saying goes.
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hazzyday Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:21:50pm |
re: #153 drcordell
You really, truly believe that juicy Democrat scandals are buried by the media? For christ sakes, Bill Clinton was impeached by the House because of a scandal related to a blowjob. Yes, I know it was the perjury and not the beej that was illegal. But regardless, his knobber was literally front page news for an entire year.
The "media" (I hate using that gross generalization) is looking for one thing. Money. They get money by getting viewers/readers. And they get viewers/readers by latching onto any scandal they can, Dem or Repub.
His perjury never bothered me. What man in his right mind wouldn't perjure himself there. "No true president" There is a case where it can be pointed out that the Republicans were being petty and petty can be. And setting up the future GWB Presidency for payback in kind.
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:23:18pm |
re: #348 doubter4444
Yes.
Thanks
Okay.
And I reversed my ding for politeness.
Though that and a quarter will get you nothin'.
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legalpad Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:23:25pm |
re: #331 happycamper
Park one car on a street in a predominately democrat/liberal neighborhood with a McCain/Palin bumper sticker. Park another car on a street in a predominately republican/conservative neighborhood with an Obama/Biden bumper sticker.
The only laughter you'll hear is that from the democrat/liberal crowd as they watch the McCain/Palin car get keyed. So you see, libs do have a better sense of humor.
Well, the test would not be complete unless you keyed the Democrats car. Do they think that is funny? Probably they would whine about how the Republicans are hypocrites because they claim to have principles.
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ladycatnip Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:25:54pm |
#291 hazzyday
That's par for the Letterman course. Letterman is a little more than just a comedian trying to be funny. He's also trying to be cruel. I'm sorry Steven finds that funny.
Thanks, hazzyday, I think you got to the root of Letterman's humor - cruelty.
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doubter4444 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:26:33pm |
re: #347 hazzyday
His perjury never bothered me. What man in his right mind wouldn't perjure himself there. "No true president" There is a case where it can be pointed out that the Republicans were being petty and petty can be. And setting up the future GWB Presidency for payback in kind.
Well said and important, to me the impeachment has been an albatross around the necks of Republicans for a while, a perfect example of hypocrisy that keeps giving (see Ensign, John).
I'm new here but this is why I enjoy this site.
And why this thread is fairly ironic.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:27:34pm |
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doubter4444 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:27:36pm |
re: #350 legalpad
Well, the test would not be complete unless you keyed the Democrats car. Do they think that is funny? Probably they would whine about how the Republicans are hypocrites because they claim to have principles.
See, now that's funny.
(being serious!)
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sbvft contributor Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:28:16pm |
So making rape jokes about 14yo girls is A-OK with Charles? Pls explain.//I noticed he only had a post about it when the controversy was over. I don't feel like reading through the comments. Did he address this point?
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legalpad Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:29:44pm |
re: #355 doubter4444
See, now that's funny.
(being serious!)
It is, but it wouldn't be to the Democrat. It wouldn't be funny to me unless it was the Democrat's car who laughed at the Republicans keyed car.
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Flyers1974 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:30:20pm |
re: #321 tryagain
So the Dems can be offended but the GOP can't? Why should a party unilaterally surrender an effective weapon - especially one used so brilliantly by your opponent?
Here is the point. Neither you nor I nor anyone else here are political operatives getting paid to spin. We are participating on a political website for our entertainment, debate, whatever the reason may be. We have the luxury of not having to pretend we are offended, as our jobs do not depend on this. The weapon is not being surrendered. Someone else will do this.
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legalpad Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:32:42pm |
Ahhh! I have to meet some people. Back later -
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Spartacus50 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:32:50pm |
re: #1 drcordell
Letterman certainly isn't complaining... his ratings are the best they have been all year.
Do you have evidence of this?
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kaymad Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:35:06pm |
I use to laugh my head off at SNL and their portrayal of Dan Quayle as a 10 year old boy, the way they nailed the Bush mannersims. They were some what kinder to Clinton, but it still could be funny. Somewhere along the way the humor got mean and personal. I guess if you think jokes about 14 year old girls is hilarious, than go ahead and laugh. I don't see why conservatives are the only ones who are the butt of jokes, there is someone new in the white house, can't he take some heat from the comedians? Or have comedians forgotten that jokes don't have to be cruel, vulgar and slanderous? I guess they have and that is why they are incapable of even gently poking any fun at Obama. Sorry I can't be above it all.
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:35:17pm |
re: #358 Flyers1974
Personally, I'm pretty hard to offend, but that doesn't mean I didn't recoginze Letterman as bitter and mean by this. I wouldn't boycott him, but I never watched him anyway. I think the coarsening of our culture is regretable and worth pointing out, but I wouldn't dwell on it--but I wouldn't dwell on those dwelling on it either.
I didn't think Obama's joke showed that he hates the disabled, just that he's a bit of a boor away from the prompter.
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doubter4444 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:36:18pm |
re: #349 nikis-knight
Okay.
And I reversed my ding for politeness.
Though that and a quarter will get you nothin'.
Politeness on a blog?
I'm doing it wrong!
Anyway, there is so much anger over everything that it's no wonder people lose their sense of humor, right or left.
Outrage has replaced discourse.
It's so much easier being mad than trying to think, and so much easier blaming others than looking inward to see what needs to be fixed.
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doubter4444 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:37:50pm |
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ladycatnip Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:38:12pm |
#347 hazzyday
His perjury never bothered me. What man in his right mind wouldn't perjure himself there. "No true president" There is a case where it can be pointed out that the Republicans were being petty and petty can be. And setting up the future GWB Presidency for payback in kind.
Have to agree with you there. Hindsight being 20/20, that whole debacle should never have happened. Too much tit-for-tat in politics, so battles much be chosen wisely and that was a stupid battle.
There was much sleaze in the Clinton administration - Lincoln bedroom, known drug dealer donations...geesh, my memory is a bit dim, but I do recall one drama after another with the two of them in the WH. Anything impeachable? I doubt it, of course, there was Sandy Burglar stuffing highly classified documents into his underpants and socks, then leaving the National Archives. What those docs were we'll never know.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:39:58pm |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
I agree too but I will refrain from further comment because this will simply devolve into a Killgore bash thread.
C'mon Kilgore, lighten up, laugh a little.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:40:41pm |
Oh, man it was like yesterday early last year when I called the DNC to ask about Obama's PLO connections ... hahahaha ... they were really laughing ... hahaha ... so much so they kicked me off their website ... those jokesters ...
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happycamper Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:44:08pm |
re: #364 doubter4444
Thanks. But I thought this thread was about one's response to humor, like whose ox is getting gored.
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doubter4444 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:46:23pm |
re: #357 legalpad
It is, but it wouldn't be to the Democrat. It wouldn't be funny to me unless it was the Democrat's car who laughed at the Republicans keyed car.
Well the funny part (to me) was this:
Probably they would whine about how the Republicans are hypocrites because they claim to have principles.
A little self deprecating humor.
An acute observation that has a ring of truth... that tends to be chuckle worthy or even funny. But it's hard.
To the others, I'm sure that someone somewhere got their car keyed for having a McCain/Palin Bumper sticker on it.
So yes, I get the it's a true thing.
My point is that making a lame joke that pains all Dems in it is stupid, and as stupid as a Dem doing the same to a Republican.
As I said Pithy observations are funny, and hard to do.
Keep practicing
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tradewind Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:48:23pm |
Things have been not so funny, but the GOP may get the last laugh....
[Link: thehill.com...]
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doubter4444 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:49:51pm |
re: #365 ladycatnip
#347 hazzyday
Have to agree with you there. Hindsight being 20/20, that whole debacle should never have happened. Too much tit-for-tat in politics, so battles much be chosen wisely and that was a stupid battle.
There was much sleaze in the Clinton administration - Lincoln bedroom, known drug dealer donations...geesh, my memory is a bit dim, but I do recall one drama after another with the two of them in the WH. Anything impeachable? I doubt it, of course, there was Sandy Burglar stuffing highly classified documents into his underpants and socks, then leaving the National Archives. What those docs were we'll never know.
Absolutely!
There are still a vast amount that will say it done for the principal of the thing.
Now there is a joke.
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doubter4444 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:53:55pm |
re: #368 buzzsawmonkey
What?
I think it was the second sentience of the article that mentioned his involvement with Clinton impeachment, as a symbol of his hypocrisy.
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 12:59:22pm |
Is that an article with multiple personality disorder?
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Bonk Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:05:34pm |
I gotta say that this misses the mark by a considerable margin. When you start seeing Obama jokes on Letterman/Daily Show, then it'll be time to start lambasting the Reps if they aren't laughing. Right now it's hypocracy at it's finest to say that only the conservatives need to utilize their sense of humor...
So, did you guys hear about how the President's new dog got his name? (Bo)
Apparently a dyslexic Presidential aide put a memo on Obama's desk asking what the new dog in the White House name was and Barack just initialed it...
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Korla Pundit Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:09:00pm |
GOP? I think most Republicans have a great sense of humor. They can be quite self-deprecating, whereas Obama thinks a roast is where you are praised, and your enemies have kidney failure wished upon them.
Can we talk about how many Obama jokes Letterman has made yet? Is zero a number? Even with all the great material Obama provides, not to mention Biden (!), the One is off limits. What happened to talking truth to power and all that horse crap?
I guess the living God cannot be mocked.
The problem with Palin jokes is that the topic is as stale as Buttafucco references. The election is over, Dave. Your guy won. Now you should make fun of him. Oh, I forgot, you have forgotten how to be funny.
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tradewind Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:11:17pm |
Republicans have no sense of humor? Seriously?
[Link: bighollywood.breitbart.com...]
Last time I checked, Beeyotch was a Democrat.
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Caboose Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:11:43pm |
Two liberals walk into a bar. You would think that the second one would have seen it...
Q. What do you call five liberals sitting around a circular table?
A. A dope ring!
Q. What do you call five liberals sitting shoulder to shoulder?
A. A wind tunnel.
Q. What do you see when you look in a liberal's eyes?
A. The back of their skull.
(Man is it E-Z to make liberal jokes, just substitute 'liberal' in all them old blond jokes and Bob's you uncle! Heh!
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:11:54pm |
re: #67 JammieWearingFool
I recall some comedian once made a tepid joke about Chelsea Clinton and you'd have thought the earth's rotation had stopped.
Jokes about Sarah Palin's kids are fine, I guess.
Aren't double standards great?
Saying that the president's adolescent daughter has a face like a dog is "tepid"?
I'd hate to see your idea of turning up the heat. Speaking of double standards.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:20:30pm |
re: #379 ShanghaiEd
Saying that the president's adolescent daughter has a face like a dog is "tepid"?
I'd hate to see your idea of turning up the heat. Speaking of double standards.
The joke about Palin's daughter is an excellent example of "turning up the heat".
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arf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:30:16pm |
Limbaugh made a joke about Chelsea Clinton back in 1993. He backed off immediately, that same show, and re-apologized a couple days later, before people even paid much attention. He's still getting grief for it.
Trent Lott said nice things to Strom Thurmond on his 100th birthday and look what happened to him.
Sorry, if those Letterman remarks were the other way around we'd never hear the end of it.
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:40:04pm |
re: #382 arf
Trent Lott said nice things to Strom Thurmond on his 100th birthday and look what happened to him.
Lott said that the U.S. would be better off if we had stayed racially segregated. That's a "nice thing"...how? As I recall, Bush was one of the first to say Lott was wrong.
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drcordell Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:45:59pm |
re: #295 JammieWearingFool
Except for that period from 1952-1994 when the Democrats controlled Congress.
Dude, you're consistently short on facts, or stretch them to fit your bias.
I wrote Congress OR the White House. From 1969-2009 there were two Democrat Presidents, serving a total of 12 years out of 40. Conservatives are not a repressed minority in the U.S. and that is a fact. But don't let that get in the way of your perceived victimization.
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:47:27pm |
re: #202 Ben Hur
Is Conan O'Brien Jewish?
Most of the time when someone makes a racial or religious joke, it has to be self-deprecating. IOW, Jews make the best Jewish jokes, Blacks make the best Black jokes, etc. You can poke fun at someone not a part of your particular "tribe", but it generally doesn't work. That's why Imus got fired. If Imus was Black, we probably wouldn't have heard of it.
Is it a double standard? I don't really think so. I think laughing at yourself is a good thing, which allows others to laugh along and goes far to break down racial barriers. I mentioned this in the other thread, too. Jews have been making Jewish jokes for ions so why shouldn't Conan make them? Well it doesn't come out right... is my point. Maybe he should stick with the Irish Catholic jokes.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:50:05pm |
re: #383 ShanghaiEd
Lott said that the U.S. would be better off if we had stayed racially segregated. That's a "nice thing"...how? As I recall, Bush was one of the first to say Lott was wrong.
No. he didn't.
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:52:28pm |
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American Sabra Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:53:09pm |
re: #277 nikis-knight
Wait, so Letterman is a republican? Being concerned with screwing, and all.
This is hardly an issue where republicans come off looking worse--controlling people, that is. Who has campus speech codes? Who enacts strict laws about smoking, transfats, vehicle mileage, regulating every sector of buisiness? Or is how one makes and spends money exempted from freedom?And since when do only republicans care who's screwing who, so long as they aren't doing it while on the job that we the people employ them at? Did republicans dig up dirt on edwards? Was Larry Craig left alone?
Eh, whatever. I think I'll take your advice and just downding you.
Maybe you haven't heard but Republicans aren't all that hip about gay folks getting married and/or having sex. So much so, they put propositions on the ballots. They also push religion in the classroom. I've always thought that the "party of less government" only thinks so when it doesn't pertain to sex or religion. Then, the more government the better.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:53:14pm |
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drcordell Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:53:52pm |
re: #386 pink freud
"When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either."
Not really sure what else that would refer to other than the explicit pro-segregation platform Thurmond ran for President on.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 1:58:16pm |
re: #390 drcordell
"When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either."
Not really sure what else that would refer to other than the explicit pro-segregation platform Thurmond ran for President on.
Thank you for providing Lott's exact quote.
This is the explanation offered by Lott's spokesman. Despite the direct rebuttal, Lott was ultimately held responsible for something he did not say. Period.
"A spokesman for Mr. Lott, Ron Bonjean, said the remarks at the 1980 rally did not pertain to race but were made after Mr. Thurmond, then a top draw on the Republican circuit, had complained mightily about President Jimmy Carter, the national debt and federal meddling in state matters.
''We want that federal government to keep their filthy hands off the rights of the states,'' Mr. Thurmond was quoted as saying.
Mr. Bonjean, when shown the article, said, ''Clearly, Senator Lott was praising the policies of Thurmond and Reagan, of smaller government and reducing the federal deficit.''
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kynna Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:00:24pm |
re: #153 drcordell
You really, truly believe that juicy Democrat scandals are buried by the media? For christ sakes, Bill Clinton was impeached by the House because of a scandal related to a blowjob. Yes, I know it was the perjury and not the beej that was illegal. But regardless, his knobber was literally front page news for an entire year.
The "media" (I hate using that gross generalization) is looking for one thing. Money. They get money by getting viewers/readers. And they get viewers/readers by latching onto any scandal they can, Dem or Repub.
Late on this response, but I must point out that congress -- the impeachers of Clinton -- is NOT the media. Bill Clinton's flashing and proposition of Paula Jones was indeed spiked by the mainstream media as it hit the cycle during the '96 campaign. If it hadn't been for Drudge, nobody would have known about that.
AND, I'd also like to point out that this sentence of yours: "For christ sakes, Bill Clinton was impeached by the House because of a scandal related to a blowjob. " is exactly how that event is remembered. Why? Because that's how the media reported it. Many people still believe the man was impeached for a blowjob. You tell them it was perjury during the investigation of a valid complaint of sexual harassment and it's new news to them.
And finally, if you don't think the media was biased during the 2008 campaign, though, I'm certain there's nothing I can say to change your mind.
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shrike Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:02:59pm |
Dr Sanity has a good post on humor....enjoy
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:03:30pm |
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A.W. Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:03:34pm |
re: #384 drcordell
Conservatives are not a repressed minority in the U.S. and that is a fact. But don't let that get in the way of your perceived victimization.
Jesus H. Christ. do you think anyone buys into this blatant double standard? Really?
And let's see how that works on this topic.
Well, first, obama made fun of handicapped people. So what do you know, they ARE a historically repressed minority, you chowderhead.
Second, Letterman made fun of a teenage girl for getting pregant. women are not a minority, but they have historically been treated as "sluts" when they get pregnant, while no one says boo to the man. and what do you know, they are doing that here, too. indeed, since David Letterman has only recently married the mother of the child he had way back in 2002, Letterman is apparently telling us he thinks his wife is a slut, too, for having sex with him.
And more fundamentally, you don't have to be talking about a historically screwed over group, to say that a person deserves some dignity. And you know, if you can't muster that, then at least stop bitching when you get dished back exactly what you dished out.
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:07:02pm |
re: #395 pink freud
And you know this was referring to racial segregation how?
Ever heard the term "dog whistle"?
I can bend over pretty far backward when it comes to explaining away things, but I don't have the dexterity to do this one. I defer to you and Mr. Bonjean.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:09:59pm |
re: #395 pink freud
And you know this was referring to racial segregation how?
Pink ... you know it is okay to say things about him ... and read people's thoughts as to what they were thinking about him ... but it is not okay to do the same about a WV senator ... okay ... you got it ...
/just another southern racist here ...
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:10:20pm |
re: #397 ShanghaiEd
Ever heard the term "dog whistle"?
I can bend over pretty far backward when it comes to explaining away things, but I don't have the dexterity to do this one. I defer to you and Mr. Bonjean.
You can dog whistle and bend over backwards 'til the cows come home, Ed, but you can't attribute words to man that were never spoken. Sorry.
From #383, quoting you: "Lott said that the U.S. would be better off if we had stayed racially segregated."
Your credibility needs some work.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:11:48pm |
re: #398 JacksonTn
Pink ... you know it is okay to say things about him ... and read people's thoughts as to what they were thinking about him ... but it is not okay to do the same about a WV senator ... okay ... you got it ...
/just another southern racist here ...
Yeah, I got it fine, Jackson. We're on the same page. We know these tactics well, don't we?
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drcordell Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:12:27pm |
re: #392 kynna
And finally, if you don't think the media was biased during the 2008 campaign, though, I'm certain there's nothing I can say to change your mind.
If you truly believe that the media got Obama elected, I have a bridge I'd loooooove to sell you. Jesus Christ incarnate could have run as a Republican in 2008 and he still would have lost. McCain's platform was basically a continuation of the policies of a President with sub-30% approval ratings. He was toast from day one.
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A.W. Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:13:15pm |
As for Lott's comments, i thought it was always thoughtless rather than anything else. it just a southernism, to say if you had your way everything would be better. It is bluntly utterly insincere and no one who hears it ever takes it as such. it is also done without really thinking about the full implications.
I find it continually amazing the way that democrats constantly say we should be understanding of the most barbaric cultures in the world, but don't bother to learn anything about the cultures in their own country. I mean this isn't even about being tolerant of the values of another culture, but just learning enough to realize what is actually being said and not said. if you know southern culture, what Lott said didn't carry nearly the implications everyone assigned to it.
What all of you need to learn to do is to read what a person says sympathetically. we should not be constantly trying to twist a person's words to the worst possible interpretation. That is classic gotcha politics.
In fact, in a way it is similar to how i felt about Letterman's comment. I don't think Dave thought about it long enough to realize he was talking about Willow. Just as i don't think Lott thought about it long enough to realize that he implicitly endorsing Strom's racism. I don't chew letterman out for the Willow issue, but for attacking Bristol which he says was his intended target, and i agree. She doesn't deserve to be a punchline. And Sarah Palin was right to go all momma-bear on him.
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Salem Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:14:44pm |
re: #376 Korla Pundit
Obama thinks a roast is where you are praised, and your enemies have kidney failure wished upon them.
LOL!
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:22:07pm |
re: #399 pink freud
You can dog whistle and bend over backwards 'til the cows come home, Ed, but you can't attribute words to man that were never spoken. Sorry.
From #383, quoting you: "Lott said that the U.S. would be better off if we had stayed racially segregated."
Your credibility needs some work.
Water under the bridge, I guess. Lott apologized and paid the price. You've got your view of what happened, I've got mine. Onward, to greater heights...
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drcordell Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:22:10pm |
re: #399 pink freud
Look, personally I really don't give 2 sh*ts what Lott said. But it's pretty clear that the man was referring to Thurmond's segregationist platform. It was the defining characteristic of the man's entire campaign. Not to mention the fact that Lott's clarification statement uses the term "state's rights", which most certainly can be considered a "dog whistle."
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Obsidiandog Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:26:19pm |
It isn't a lack of a sense of humor, it isn't a heightened sensitivity or playing the victim card, it is all about making the bastards that have been excoriating conservatives, Republicans, the previous administration, etc., PAY. It's all about calling these loudmouth jerkoffs out and making them own the ridiculous and malicious statements they use to constantly wear down conservative ideas while tanking for the left. I like it if David Letterman has to squirm for a week. I like it if Wanda Sykes gets her stupid remarks thrown back in her stupid face. I think it is fantastic when John Stewart gets that smug little smirk wiped off his face. I think it's great if The One and his aides have to scramble to do damage control because he says something stupid off-prompter.
I see it as a shot across the Left's bow, saying "No more double standard, you say something stupid, we're calling you on it, and we just might pile on to make it hurt a little more".
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hazzyday Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:26:55pm |
re: #388 American Sabra
Maybe you haven't heard but Republicans aren't all that hip about gay folks getting married and/or having sex. So much so, they put propositions on the ballots. They also push religion in the classroom. I've always thought that the "party of less government" only thinks so when it doesn't pertain to sex or religion. Then, the more government the better.
that california prop on gay marriage didn't fail just because of Republicans. Secular religion is already being codified into classrooms via social justice agendas. It's way ahead of religion. but your general point is correct to me the party of less government has lost that focus.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:29:33pm |
re: #405 ShanghaiEd
Water under the bridge, I guess. Lott apologized and paid the price. You've got your view of what happened, I've got mine. Onward, to greater heights...
It's not a matter of differing views, Ed, it's a matter of truth versus lies.
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horse Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:33:28pm |
There is humor, and there are insults. It is the insecure bully that insults people, and when they take offense he replies with the canned question, "what, can't take a joke?"
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:35:31pm |
re: #409 pink freud
It's not a matter of differing views, Ed, it's a matter of truth versus lies.
I know. I was trying to be courteous.
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hazzyday Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:37:12pm |
re: #356 sbvft contributor
So making rape jokes about 14yo girls is A-OK with Charles? Pls explain.//I noticed he only had a post about it when the controversy was over. I don't feel like reading through the comments. Did he address this point?
Please.... why do you even post. Charles was nice enough to open the topic for discussion. I infer it as a rape joke. I don't infer that that means Charles approves of it. The point is being debated with several different points of view. He is pointing out the Republican lack of humor. For you to make the great leap forward there just results in falling flat on your face.
I'll answer for Charles. No it's not ok to him.
I'll speak for you. " I don't have any common sense"
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:41:49pm |
re: #53 pink freud
Even our liberals are showing a sense of humor:
"I have to admit I have ideas of writing something for HuffPo or Kos called "I have met LGF and They are Us""
It's a bit weird you feel the need to follow me around like that, Dr. Freud. It's not the first time.
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kynna Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:43:06pm |
re: #402 drcordell
If you truly believe that the media got Obama elected, I have a bridge I'd loooooove to sell you. Jesus Christ incarnate could have run as a Republican in 2008 and he still would have lost. McCain's platform was basically a continuation of the policies of a President with sub-30% approval ratings. He was toast from day one.
You truly believe they didn't? If they had ever reported honestly about him he wouldn't have been nominated. Hillary would have been and she'd have won against McCain. The news media just wouldn't have been so humiliatingly in the tank for her because they wouldn't have needed to be.
But, as I said, if you honestly believe the media wasn't biased on Obama's behalf in 2008, there's nothing anyone can tell you to change your mind.
And for someone who is so sadly ill-informed you really do have a smug-on. Embarrassing.
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:44:56pm |
re: #385 American Sabra
Most of the time when someone makes a racial or religious joke, it has to be self-deprecating. IOW, Jews make the best Jewish jokes, Blacks make the best Black jokes, etc. You can poke fun at someone not a part of your particular "tribe", but it generally doesn't work. That's why Imus got fired. If Imus was Black, we probably wouldn't have heard of it.
I don't know. Imus also called the Rutgers women's basketball team 'hoes', remember. I can see someone losing his job over that regardless of race.
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pink freud Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:45:33pm |
re: #413 iceweasel
It's a bit weird you feel the need to follow me around like that, Dr. Freud. It's not the first time.
Noting a post that stands out like a sore thumb is not "following" you or anyone else around, iceweasel. It's paying attention. Most of us here do it.
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kynna Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:47:17pm |
re: #407 Obsidiandog
I agree. And I think it's important to make them clarify their vague accusations and go back and point out and correct the untruths. Liz Cheney is great at that. Most of the GOP aren't so good at it. IMO they shouldn't answer the question until the premise is honest. And that often means going back and schooling the questioner.
It would be nice if the GOP pols didn't just want to suck up to whoever walks in the door.
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:47:59pm |
re: #416 pink freud
Noting a post that stands out like a sore thumb is not "following" you or anyone else around, iceweasel. It's paying attention. Most of us here do it.
It's not the first time I log on and find you talking about me or trying to being me into a discussion. Weird, Dr. Freud. Physician, heal thyself!
As you were. I won't be engaging you further. But your hate-on for me has been noted. And not only by me. :)
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nikis-knight Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:48:11pm |
re: #388 American Sabra
Maybe you haven't heard but Republicans aren't all that hip about gay folks getting married and/or having sex. So much so, they put propositions on the ballots. They also push religion in the classroom. I've always thought that the "party of less government" only thinks so when it doesn't pertain to sex or religion. Then, the more government the better.
No one objects to gay folks marrying; the difference is marrying each other.
Advocates of gay marriage are confusing the institution for creating and civilizing new people with societal sanction for their fetish.
And most Republicans/conservatives don't push religion in classrooms, certainly not at a federal level.
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horse Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:55:48pm |
The GOP party and congressional leadership has seemed humorless for at least a decade. It took itself too seriously, wandered from its original path, and ended up in the wilderness. All along that journey of decline it made many excuses, but seldom examined itself in an honest manner. When you can't be honest or modest with/about yourself, you have a hard time seeing the humor around you.
On the other hand, GWB appeared to have a good amount of self-deprecating humor. He could make fun of himself and his staff in a parody sort of way. I didn't agreed with everything he did, but I always felt he was human and fairly modest. I can't say that about the current administration, they seem rather prickly and defensive. They just don't seem to see the humor in claiming to losing sleep over the growing debt, while proposing and approving trillions and trillions of new unneeded and unprecedented government spending.
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:57:05pm |
re: #419 nikis-knight
No one objects to gay folks marrying; the difference is marrying each other.
Advocates of gay marriage are confusing the institution for creating and civilizing new people with societal sanction for their fetish.
You can't really mean this? --for one thing, if you think marriage exists only as "the institution for creating and civilising new people" you'd have to forbid it to all childless couples, all couples where one or both partners are infertile, and all couples where one or both are beyond child bearing age.
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 2:58:36pm |
re: #420 horse
I don't agree with your comments about the current administration, but I think everything else you said, including the comments about GWB as a person, is spot-on.
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sagehen Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:00:33pm |
re: #228 nikis-knight
Ann Coulter is hardly the funniest conservative. The South Park guys and Mike Judge of King of the Hill for pop culture examples; there's Dennis Miller, and Mark Steyn drips wit.
I rarely find Ann Coulter or Dennis Miller at all funny.
P.J. O'Roarke on the other hand.... and while Chris Rock isn't usually considered "conservative", he often strikes me as such.
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formercorpsman Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:00:40pm |
All in all, this idea of being offended started off as the cottage industry of the Democrat party.
I am all for everyone getting their hackles down, and taking a breath. I think what we are witnessing, is the GOP taking a page out of the Democrats play book.
Add to that, a media that just flat out refuses to be impartial, absconds any critical evaluation of their ideological bedfellows, and sooner or later that side will take the position of "what is good for the goose, is good for the gander" tone.
It all goes back to wanting to have your feelings hurt. Race cards, gender cards, lifestyle cards, they're all bullshit.
Once upon a time, we had a spine.
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:02:18pm |
re: #419 nikis-knight
And most Republicans/conservatives don't push religion in classrooms, certainly not at a federal level.
So, is pushing religion in classrooms on the state level OK with you?
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:07:51pm |
re: #425 formercorpsman
strawman.
Hardly. It's the logical entailment of what nikis-knight said. And I'm using logical entailment in the technical sense.
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:10:05pm |
re: #424 formercorpsman
All in all, this idea of being offended started off as the cottage industry of the Democrat party.
I am all for everyone getting their hackles down, and taking a breath. I think what we are witnessing, is the GOP taking a page out of the Democrats play book.
I'd agree with that, and only add that it didn't work out well for the Democrats, so it mystifies me why the GOP would think it would work for them. Just seems like bad strategy.
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:10:33pm |
re: #427 iceweasel
Hardly. It's the logical entailment of what nikis-knight said. And I'm using logical entailment in the technical sense.
Entailment? We'll not have off-color humor, here...
/
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ihateronpaul Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:15:37pm |
re: #125 ihateronpaul
YOU obviously haven't watched any of Alex Jones's documentaries and haven't learned THE TRUTH! You are just a SLAVE! A SLAVE!
//////
synchronicity of the day: I was driving home an hour ago, and turned on my radio to sean hannity's show. The second I heard pat buchanan's voice vomiting out of my car speakers I noticed an INFOWARS sticker on the car in front of me. Oh, what a wonderful world.
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:15:58pm |
re: #429 ShanghaiEd
Entailment? We'll not have off-color humor, here...
/
There I go with my potty mouth again. Sigh. What else can be expected from a lib.
:)
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RalphShort Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:18:36pm |
Well, I read the piece and see no reason why anyone would laugh at the Letterman effort at humor. Basically, he calls the governor a slut, and implies one or both of her daughters are loose enough to couple with A rod presumably during the 7th inning stretch. I don't know how the audience reacted but whoever guffawed at that has zero taste.
Now, with regard to republicans losing their sense of humor, I would say things have become a little more tense, but then liberals and most democrats have zero sense of humor. They have, as the article implied, the copyright on phony indignation.
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sandspur Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:22:38pm |
Not so many years ago, the type of comments Letterman made would have rendered him an outcast in polite society.
You would never have heard that type of "humor" from Will Rogers or Mark Twain, humorists who were actually humorous.
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kynna Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:26:09pm |
re: #423 sagehen
I rarely find Ann Coulter or Dennis Miller at all funny.
P.J. O'Roarke on the other hand.... and while Chris Rock isn't usually considered "conservative", he often strikes me as such.
Iowahawk is my fave funny guy right now. I also love PJ O'Roarke and Mark Steyn. South Park is also the best social commentary going whether I always agree with them or not. Crude, but clever.
I don't find Coulter all that funny, but I've laughed a few times at Miller. Chris Rock has one stand-up video (from HBO, IIRC) that is incredibly hilarious. It was taped in DC.
I find these conservatives and moderates to be much funnier than those on the left because the bottom line is -- the premise must be true for the joke to work. Often the left's premise is a foundation of straw. Why am I obligated to laugh?
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formercorpsman Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:28:08pm |
re: #427 iceweasel
No, not quite. Not the argument you were responding to, other refutations exist concerning the situation.
Historically, procreation is a central theme in marriage. But, people can be infertile sure. People can choose to not want to have children, and still pursue marriage.
People can be fertile, get married, and become infertile.
I will stand down anymore on this for now, specifically due to the fact I really would like to discuss this development concerning North Korea.
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formercorpsman Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:29:29pm |
re: #428 iceweasel
But they still do it. It is like another appendage for them.
It is not as if they had a bad response to one incident, and decided it was something they would avoid doing from now on.
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kansas Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:33:58pm |
Democrats don't have much of sense of humor either. Obama can bash Bush daily and blame him for everything, but when Bush defends his policies they bring out Julian Epstein. What, no laughing?
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kansas Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:36:13pm |
I see we are still sorry for slavery. I did not know that./
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jamie Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:39:51pm |
He's right, but after the profanity-laced tirade he left over the accurate depiction of James von Brunn, he's not exactly the best messenger.
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:40:14pm |
re: #438 kansas
I see we are still sorry for slavery. I did not know that./
Hey, don't tar Trent Lott with that brush.
/
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:44:52pm |
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 3:48:52pm |
re: #439 jamie
He's right, but after the profanity-laced tirade he left over the accurate depiction of James von Brunn, he's not exactly the best messenger.
Small point: that was Andrew Breitbart; this article is by some other guy, it's just on Breitbart's site.
I had the exact same thought as you, btw, and then noted that the author wasn't Breitbart. Breitbart is a tool with no sense of humour whatsoever.
My favourite example is his non-apology apology recently for giving some demonstrators the finger. He 'assumed' they were protesting the war in Iraq--for no good reason. They were protesting the use of child soldiers in war in Africa. Didn't stop him standing up and giving them the finger as they went by, while the cameras rolled.
Ooooops.
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Jamie Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:00:06pm |
re: #442 iceweasel
Good point on your part. I should have actually read the story on Breitbart's site.
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:09:41pm |
re: #443 Jamie
Good point on your part. I should have actually read the story on Breitbart's site.
I can hardly blame you for wanting to avoid going there.
Here is something much more amusing: Brietbart's column about how he fucked up. At least he admitted it, but he really looks like a fool:
[Link: washingtontimes.com...]
He must not have learned much since then, as that voicemail to Gawker shows. How could he think they wouldn't make it public?
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princetrumpet Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:09:47pm |
What utter crap, Charles' "indeed" not withstanding. There's funny and there's funny. I don't know how old the tyke that wrote that piece was but he has to realize that many Republicans are older and have a slightly different take on what passes for humor. Being hip today to be funny means what it's always meant: lowering your standards so as not to find yourself isolated.
Wanda Syke's joke wasn't a joke, it was part of an inappropriate rant. That's never been what the correspondent's dinner has been about. It was just a lame-assed insult. Talking about the mentally or physically disabled in order to self-deprecate... yup, sonny, that there's a real knee slapper, hyuk, hyuk. Forgot what the third example was... old farts have no memory.
Please, don't condescend to us by instructing us as to what's funny. It was a dumb piece.
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:12:38pm |
re: #445 princetrumpet
So, nothing should be posted here unless everyone decides in advance that it's "correct"?
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princetrumpet Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:29:44pm |
re: #446 ShanghaiEd
How do you make that leap?
I disagree with the author... check.
I wrote in to voice that opinion... check
Insulted no one (except for referring to the author as a "tyke" but it's cool because he has a sense of humor)...check.
What are you talking about?
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Nemesis6 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:33:39pm |
If republicans wanna laugh, there are so many things they could laugh about. For example, the whole "Jesus rode on dinosaurs" thing they've got going on. :)
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HarryTheHawk Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:39:22pm |
> Republicans need to shut up and laugh a little.
I'm no Republican, but the comedy team in the white house makes me laugh all the time (and then cry).
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arf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:40:42pm |
Lott said that the U.S. would be better off if we had stayed racially segregated. That's a "nice thing"...how? As I recall, Bush was one of the first to say Lott was wrong.
NO. HE. DIDN'T say the USA would be better off if the USA had stayed racially segregated. HE. NEVER. SAID. THAT. And whether or not Thurmond advocated that had NOTHING to do with it.
For Pity's sake, it was a man's 100th birthday. This is not a time to do an academic review of his history. Do you criticize people on their 100th birthday?
He was saying nice things. He was saying he would have made a good President. He was saying he voted for Thurmond back then. And I could care less if he meant it. It's what you say to an old man on his birthday.
When Reagan made the remark about hoping you were all Republicans on induction of anesthesia, would you launch into a criticism of his policy while he was bleeding?
This is EXACTLY what I mean when I point out no sense of humor on the LEFT.
That Bush did not support Lott, whether he did or not, I don't remember, and could care less. Bush was notorious for not defending his own side. Bush's recent remarks, Cheney's a couple weeks ago, all I hear is "why weren't they saying that sort of thing when they were in office?"
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HarryTheHawk Thu, Jun 18, 2009 4:54:24pm |
re: #450 arf
... This is EXACTLY what I mean when I point out no sense of humor on the LEFT.
good point. on the left, humor takes the form of ad hominem smear jobs.
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:00:37pm |
re: #447 princetrumpet
My mistake. I thought your post was addressed to Charles, but I re-read and saw that it isn't. PIMF.
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Susanl Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:06:58pm |
This attitude is the reason I don't visit here very often any more.
What Wanda Sykes and David Letterman said were NOT JOKES!
Both things were said with the sole purpose of hurting people they view as political enemies.
I guess because Sarah and Rush speak out, they are fair game for any vile statement anyone wants to make.
I will not be back. This site has seriously gone down hill in the last few months. I used to visit every day. Now, I just come to see what the conservatives have done wrong and who has dared to profess any belief other than Darwin's theory.
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doubter4444 Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:13:54pm |
re: #420 horse
The GOP party and congressional leadership has seemed humorless for at least a decade. It took itself too seriously, wandered from its original path, and ended up in the wilderness. All along that journey of decline it made many excuses, but seldom examined itself in an honest manner. When you can't be honest or modest with/about yourself, you have a hard time seeing the humor around you.
On the other hand, GWB appeared to have a good amount of self-deprecating humor. He could make fun of himself and his staff in a parody sort of way. I didn't agreed with everything he did, but I always felt he was human and fairly modest. I can't say that about the current administration, they seem rather prickly and defensive. They just don't seem to see the humor in claiming to losing sleep over the growing debt, while proposing and approving trillions and trillions of new unneeded and unprecedented government spending.
This. (as they say on FARK).
It's kind of the gist of the entire thread.
And it is correct.
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arf Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:22:52pm |
I can't stand Ted Kennedy. But if I were in his hospital room going into brain surgery, I don't think I'd bring up Chappaquiddick. I might even be able to say he'd have made a good President if he'd continued the 1980 run.
Even if I didn't believe it. Even if he deserves to have Chappaquiddick brought up every day of his life.
Was the Palin thing over the top? Probably, though the joke was in bad taste regardless which daughter he meant. The difference is whether he's just a jerk or advocating statutory rape.
The fact remains. "I hope his kidneys fail". "Knock up Palin's daughter". Those aren't even close to jokes, they're plain old insults. But whatever the right had to say about it, the left is a thousand times worse, for far less provocation, and the press aids and abets it.
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princetrumpet Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:33:49pm |
re: #455 arf
Thanks arf. It's good to see a few of us get it. The guy who wrote the piece could have chosen other examples but chose terrible ones. But see... that's the problem. We actually do think that stuff that might happen to be anti-GOP can be funny if done well. So, it's a catch 22... he can't use the stuff that's funny because it doesn't help him prove his point. So, go with the stuff that isn't funny and, as this site has gone to doing more of, show how much more intellectually above it all you are. Too friggin' bad, says I.
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princetrumpet Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:35:24pm |
re: #456 princetrumpet
Apparently, I have trouble quoting. The first ^ paragraph is arf's.
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boofar Thu, Jun 18, 2009 5:57:37pm |
re: #174 PennStConserv
This isn't about the apology or her accepting it. It's about whether Palin's reaction (and the GOP's) was warranted. Crowder's argument, and apparently Charles, was that the Palin's and the GOP overreacted to the comments. They didn't. The comments were way out of line and deserved the response they got. That's the only thing we're talking about.
I agree.
I have no problem when comics go after politicians and their adult supporters, but I draw the line when it comes to their children. McCain made a crack about Chelsea Clinton and that was messed up. When MSM went after the Bush twins, I thought that was equally disturbing. Had Letterman made another joke about Palin seeing Russia, then that would have been a roll of the eyes and continuing with my life...
Also, there's another way to look at it. Sarah Palin is a mom. And if there's anything that can be told reliably about moms is that they defend their young against all. Letterman simply stepped on a rake and let it hit him smack in the face.
Lastly, when it comes to jokes thrown at the GOP and the reactions that took place, I can just point to the 8 years of Bush in order to point out how anyone who wanted to evenly slightly boost their exposure in our media would simply make a Bushisdumb or Bushitler or Bushchimp joke. The Republicans didn't like that. However, this was fair game. He was the president and made policies which make him a legit target for jokes. However, going after the children of the politicians, who have absolutely no influence on the decisions that their parents make that steer this country, is simply low.
There are rumors that sponsors will pull advertising, I hope they do. Hit Letterman where it hurts and quash his ego:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/18/olive-garden-dumps-letterman/
Hopefully, this will make those in the future that want to score some points against their political opponents will do so not at the expense of their children... irrespective from which political aisle this garbage is launched.
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sbvft contributor Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:00:49pm |
re: #412 hazzyday
Please.... why do you even post. Charles was nice enough to open the topic for discussion. I infer it as a rape joke. I don't infer that that means Charles approves of it. The point is being debated with several different points of view. He is pointing out the Republican lack of humor. For you to make the great leap forward there just results in falling flat on your face.
I'll answer for Charles. No it's not ok to him.
I'll speak for you. " I don't have any common sense"
How long has CJ had this blog? 5 years? And conveniently he waits til right after the Palin/Letterman to utter his assertion that the GOP has no sense of humor. The timing is questionable, no? Let's face it, he's taking Letterman's side, isn't he? How can one conclude otherwise?
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:08:27pm |
re: #459 sbvft contributor
The timing is questionable, no?
No, not really.
Let's face it, he's taking Letterman's side, isn't he? How can one conclude otherwise?
Bye now! I'm sure you'll be happier without an LGF account. No need to thank me.
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boofar Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:09:28pm |
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nyc redneck Thu, Jun 18, 2009 6:44:53pm |
re: #418 iceweasel
It's not the first time I log on and find you talking about me or trying to being me into a discussion. Weird, Dr. Freud. Physician, heal thyself!
As you were. I won't be engaging you further. But your hate-on for me has been noted. And not only by me. :)
she doesn't hate you.
you are a troll. that's all.
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The Left Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:32:32pm |
re: #462 nyc redneck
she doesn't hate you.
you are a troll. that's all.
If by troll you mean "nonconservative", you're right. :)
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 19, 2009 7:14:37am |
One of the funniest comments I heard in recent years was Hitchens on Jerry Falwells burial arrangements. Some conservative evangelicals were not pleased by it though, at least not outwardly.
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A.W. Fri, Jun 19, 2009 7:44:20am |
any, all and all, a silly commentary. first, republicans/conservatives are the butt of jokes all the time. the fact they called foul on 3 of them, given the thousands that probably go out every week, is hardly cause to say they have no sense of humor.
Second, the jokes were offensive and in most circles out of bounds, and most notably no one has told similar jokes about democrats/liberals.
I mean i am not comedy writer, but there is material there. besides cheap stuff like getting confused on right and left, and saying there are 57 states in america, we could talk about Obama's spending. "The other day Obama went into a Five Guys hamburger joint in Northern Virginia. He ordered a bacon cheeseburger and paid $100 million for it."
So let's break that down. First he says conservatives lost their humor because they had a problem with Obama's special olympics gag. Well, first it wasn't just conservatives. For instance, the special olympians did, too, and the people running the event. Really there is something just plain unseemly about the most powerful man on earth making fun of the 'tards. I never understood decency to the handicapped to be a partisan issue.
Second we have the letterman thing. I have said before i never believed it was about Willow, but about bristol and he just didn't think it through. But its still inappropriate to attack her family. To repeat my joke above, imagine if Letterman said this instead "the other day Joe Biden went to a Nationals ball game. It got awkward during the 7th inning stretch because his daughter tried to snort the foul line." i admit i think that is a little funny, but it would be woefully inappropraite to tell, because one shouldn't attack the family. And letterman of all people had no right to attack anyone for having a child out of wedlock because his son was in kindergarten before Letter married the mother who bore him that son.
Besides, even letterman recognized that it was over the line and apologized. Its hard to fault republicans or anyone else for taking him to task when he himself decided he had been wrong.
As for Wanda Sykes, wishing death on a politician is probably the least of the offenses here, but yeah i think it is over the line.
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Korla Pundit Fri, Jun 19, 2009 9:50:41am |
Maybe you haven't heard but Republicans aren't all that hip about gay folks getting married and/or having sex.
You mean famous Republicans like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and the voters of California?
Or do you mean famous pro-Gay marriage advocate Dick Cheney? I'm not clear on your post...
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jackfetch Fri, Jun 19, 2009 2:12:32pm |
For as long as I can remember, Republicans and Conservatives have been better at laughing at themselves than the other side. The other side is great at spewing out hours upon hours of vitriolic garbage punctuated by punchlines and calling it humor, with an oh-so-infrequent lighthearted poke at themselves. If the favor is returned, we are racist, bigoted, evil, criminal, and so on ad nauseum.
So now, we're responding with the touchiness, because being good-natured hasn't served us that well, while our touchy politically correct opponents "don't call me ma'am, call me Senator" us to death.
I'm tired of being subjected to insulting political discourse disguised as humor, and being told to "lighten up" if I dare respond.
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Korla Pundit Tue, Jun 23, 2009 10:21:47am |
Besides, how can you say right-wingers don't have a sense of humor when things like this have been out there for a while now:
[Link: korlapundit.blogspot.com...]
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... CheechakoKGxvi
Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
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