New thread smell!

Greetings, LNDT lizards!

So I was reading that East German Design article and for some reason I am considering giving serious thought to reconsidering my major in industrial design.

Hmm.

Hmmm, I like the decor in here. Charle's taste, always good!

re: #1 gmsc

You sat lurking. I KNOW it!
Hi GMSC.
How was your day?

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under
the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist
program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, four time Presidential candidate and grandfather of Newsweek journalist Evan Thomas.

re: #4 Floral Giraffe

You sat lurking. I KNOW it!
Hi GMSC.
How was your day?

Great!

I wrapped up my site redesign (well, the 1st major phase, anyway), and it will be going live on Thursday.

I also received my iPod Touch this afternoon, and have been setting it up and playing with it ever since.

re: #4 Floral Giraffe

You sat lurking. I KNOW it!
Hi GMSC.
How was your day?

BTW, how was your day?

Careful Lad. Those hands of his are strong enough to crush a boulder. Yet delicate enough to crush a butterfly.

Colnel Gentelman, The Venture Brothers

re: #6 gmsc

I will think the Lena Llovitch "new toy" song & not post it.
But, I'm thinking it.

re: #10 Floral Giraffe

I will think the Lena Llovitch "new toy" song & not post it.
But, I'm thinking it.

That works.
:)

re: #8 gmsc

One whisky, one burbon, one shot, one beer ;)

re: #12 Floral Giraffe

One whisky, one burbon, one shot, one beer ;)

So you had a good day too, then.

Hey do any Lizards play Mafia Wars on Facebook? Send me an e-mail; I'm looking to grow my family!

re: #12 Floral Giraffe

One whisky, one burbon, one shot, one beer ;)

Work . . . booze . . . work . . . booze . . .

Which reminds me of HIRED!, put to its best use by Mystery Science Theater 3000:

re: #14 Macker

Hey do any Lizards play Mafia Wars on Facebook? Send me an e-mail; I'm looking to grow my family!

:3

re: #16 laZardo

:3

What is that? A mafioso smiley?

re: #6 gmsc

Everyone and their siblings I know have iPods (or pirated knockoffs thereof) but me. I'm stuck with the MP3 player from that Pussycat Dolls video.

/ ;_;

//the alarm-to-speaker-MP3 is nifty though.

re: #19 Floral Giraffe

Girls in the water in bikinis.
No takers?

re: #20 Floral Giraffe

The music sort of throws me for a loop.

I would have expected something from the Beach Boys!

Come out, come out, ruby begonia!
How do your flowers fall?
Heck, I tried!
:)

re: #21 freetoken

What kind of loop?
Face plant into the sand,
Or kicking through the wave & on up?

Why don’t you quit cryin’ and get me some bourbon?

This was a quote made for an overnight open thread.

I'm wasting Charle's bandwidth, talking to myself.
Good night all!
See you soon!

re: #20 Floral Giraffe

Girls in the water in bikinis.
No takers?

They were all looking for this song

re: #24 Floral Giraffe

More like a tape loop... had to watch the first part twice to confirm my feeling... I guess C&W just isn't my cup of tea.

Today in History, June 24th:

Highlights of this day in history: Start of the Berlin blockade during the early Cold War; Boxing champ Jack Dempsey born; Comedian and actor Jackie Gleason of 'The Honeymooners' fame dies.

Other notable June 24th events include:

1597 – The first Dutch voyage to the East Indies reaches Bantam (on Java).

1664 – The colony of New Jersey is founded.

1793 – The first republican constitution in France is adopted.

1880 – First performance of O Canada, the song that would become the national anthem of Canada, at the Congrès national des Canadiens-Français.

1901 – First exhibition of Pablo Picasso's work opens.

1916 – Mary Pickford becomes the first female film star to get a million dollar contract.

1938 – A 450 metric ton meteorite strikes the earth in an empty field near Chicora, Pennsylvania.

1949 – The first Television Western, Hopalong Cassidy, is aired on NBC starring William Boyd.

1957 – The U.S. Supreme Court rules that obscenity is not protected by the First Amendment in Roth v. United States.

1993 – Yale computer science professor Dr. David Gelernter loses the sight in one eye, the hearing in one ear, and part of his right hand after receiving a mailbomb from the Unabomber.

2004 – In New York, capital punishment is declared unconstitutional.

Lord, she was lovely dovey.

Now you funny too.

Why don’t you quit cryin’ and get me some bourbon?

— Dix Handley, The Asphalt Jungle

"Shut up! It's daddy you shithead! Where's my bourbon?" - Frank Booth, Blue Velvet

re: #30 Sharmuta

Still trying to find something for you and the women ogle... but I've realized I may not be able to separate out the male models intended for female consumption vs. the male models intended for male consumption...

blah :-(

re: #32 ArchangelMichael

"Shut up! It's daddy you shithead! Where's my bourbon?" - Frank Booth, Blue Velvet

Another quote made for a late night thread. Heh.

re: #17 gmsc

Yeah, nobody expects you to pull that sort of face when you slip cement shoes on 'em. :3

re: #33 freetoken

If he's mostly naked and you're jealous, it might be a winner?

1880 – First performance of O Canada, the song that would become the national anthem of Canada, at the Congrès national des Canadiens-Français.

I'll see your 'O Canada' and raise you a 'Maple Leaf Forever' with bagipes!

re: #34 iceweasel

Another quote made for a late night thread. Heh.

"If there's one thing I cant stand it's warm beer. It make's me fuckin puke!"

re: #35 laZardo

Yeah, nobody expects you to pull that sort of face when you slip cement shoes on 'em. :3

I guess that's true . . .

re: #38 ArchangelMichael

"If there's one thing I cant stand it's warm beer. It make's me fuckin puke!"

Blue Velvet could be a very fertile source of late night thread quotes, but it could get a little creepy after a while...

Raymond: Do you want me to pour it Frank?
Frank Booth: No I want you to fuck it. Shit, yes, pour the fuckin' beer!

I'm putting Thorogood on repeat all night.

re: #40 iceweasel

Blue Velvet could be a very fertile source of late night thread quotes, but it could get a little creepy after a while...

Raymond: Do you want me to pour it Frank?
Frank Booth: No I want you to fuck it. Shit, yes, pour the fuckin' beer!

It's been a fertile source for samples in techno and industrial music.

Hee...Nomination for next private thread quote, also from Blue Velvet?

"I'm seeing something that was always hidden. I'm in the middle of a mystery and it's all secret."

Tiny heads would pop like popcorn over that one.

Hmmm . . .some of the music discussion is going over my head tonight.

I never did follow popular music much after I left high school (and even then...)

re: #36 Sharmuta

If he's mostly naked and you're jealous, it might be a winner?

Well... I'm not easily jealous, at least for something as fleeting as model-looks. Of Fred Astaire I am jealous.

This Brazilian top model is supposedly considered "hot"... perhaps he will do for you?

re: #42 ArchangelMichael

It's been a fertile source for samples in techno and industrial music.

Post some! Please?

re: #14 Macker

Morning Lizards. I just sent you a email Macker.

re: #19 Floral Giraffe

I went to high school with those guys (Honk).

re: #45 freetoken

Well... I'm not easily jealous, at least for something as fleeting as model-looks. Of Fred Astaire I am jealous.

This Brazilian top model is supposedly considered "hot"... perhaps he will do for you?

Maybe. Is he a nice person?

Freetoken- we could just go with the Beckhams and then there's something for everyone.

Although- I'm pretty sure Posh Beckham doesn't know how to smile.

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re: #49 Sharmuta

Maybe. Is he a nice person?

One of the world's top models, rich, famous, sought after by everyone...

And you are worried if he is a "nice person"?

/ ☺

re: #52 freetoken

One of the world's top models, rich, famous, sought after by everyone...

And you are worried if he is a "nice person"?

/ ☺

Well- sure. Who wants to date an asshole?

re: #53 Sharmuta

Puh-leeze. Manners are so Bush-era.

/ :c

re: #52 freetoken

I dig where Sharmuta is coming from. Looks, wealth, fame, talent, and intellect are kind of meaningless if the person is rotten inside.

I have had a number of very attractive, intelligent, and talented girlfriends (none that were wealthy or famous, though) that turned out to be absolute... well, we're not allowed to use that word here.

One of my first serious girlfriends was a real airhead, but man was she sweet to me. I should have placed more value on her affections than her lack of intellect, but like a fool I let that one get away. I was young.

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re: #46 iceweasel

Post some! Please?

The one's I can remember I cant find, the rest I can't remember the track names. It's been 7 years or so since I was a DJ. I vaguely remember some early 90s industrial group in that "guitar industrial" sub-genre I was never really into (outside of KMFDM and Front 242), that nearly the entire track was Frank Booth yelling "Don't you fucking look at me!"

There's a noise/Drum & Bass crossover called Paste that has a track called "I don't like you" that has most of Frank's comments about beer and bourbon in it though. If you aren't into that kind of shit... or even if you are it still sucks, but the samples are amusing. It was so obscure as to only be found on a very rare compilation.

I heard most of these, including the samples in Anthrax's "I'm the Man" way before I ever actually saw Blue Velvet, so the first time I did all I did through the entire flick was say "oh wow that's where that came from!"

My friend spilled Ron Diaz on my foot earlier.

OT: is anyone following the Mark Sanford wierdness? It seems to be getting stranger and stranger:

First no one knows where he is, including his wife-- then someone says he's hiking the appalachian trail, and now this:

On Tuesday, sources told News 4's Nigel Robertson that a state vehicle is missing and was tracked down, not to the Appalachian Trail, but to the Hartsfield-Jackson Airport in Atlanta.

Sources told Robertson that a federal agent spotted Sanford in the airport boarding a plane. Robertson was told that the governor was not accompanied by security detail.

Sanford has been out of reach for more than four days, including Father's Day.

Sawyer has emphasized that the governor was hiking on the Appalachian Trail and that it wasn't something the staff or Jenny Sanford were concerned about.

But sources told WYFF News 4 that the federal agent who spotted Sanford saw him at the Atlanta airport, which is about 80 miles from the start of the trail.

WYFF News 4 has not yet confirmed where the plane was going or how the governor got to the airport, but it is clear there are two very different stories.

[Link: www.wyff4.com...]

It really seems like the story about the AT was hastily made up to explain why he was unreachable. It's odd that his wife didn't know he was hiking, even if she didn't know where. And on Father's Day weekend?

re: #55 Slumbering Behemoth

I dig where Sharmuta is coming from. Looks, wealth, fame, talent, and intellect are kind of meaningless if the person is rotten inside.

I have had a number of very attractive, intelligent, and talented girlfriends (none that were wealthy or famous, though) that turned out to be absolute... well, we're not allowed to use that word here.

One of my first serious girlfriends was a real airhead, but man was she sweet to me. I should have placed more value on her affections than her lack of intellect, but like a fool I let that one get away. I was young.

Over time, I've noticed that a woman's personality as I see it, affects the way she appears to me. She could be extremely beautiful, but if she is a rotten person inside, I eventually come to see her as ugly. This isn't metaphorical either. They literally begin to appear ugly. The reverse is true as well. Not-so-attractive or plain women begin to look better if they are really good people on the inside. (This is why I thought the movie Shallow Hal was so hilarious.) I have to know her well enough to know what her real personality is like though. I'm not psychic so this never helped me avoid hooking up with a couple of monsters.

Good night, all. I'm going to play with my new toy before I go off to sleep.

re: #61 gmsc

Good night, all. I'm going to play with my new toy before I go off to sleep.

Night gmsc :)

re: #61 gmsc

Good night, sleep tight, don't let your new toy make you go blind!

re: #63 laZardo

Good night, sleep tight, don't let your new toy make you go blind!

LOL

re: #64 Erik The Red

LOL

Depends what sites he is surfing.

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re: #61 gmsc

G'nite! Don't let the pi bite!

re: #61 gmsc

Bye- sleep well.

re: #61 gmsc

Goodnight-- have fun!

re: #60 ArchangelMichael

I'm not psychic so this never helped me avoid hooking up with a couple of monsters.

The ones I have hooked up with were devilishly clever at hiding their monstrous side until after a serious, difficult to quickly back out of commitment was made. I've been played for a fool more than once.

re: #59 iceweasel

It really seems like the story about the AT was hastily made up to explain why he was unreachable. It's odd that his wife didn't know he was hiking, even if she didn't know where. And on Father's Day weekend?

But on the bright side, "hiking the Appalachian Trail" has entered the lexicon as an all-purpose euphemism for... well, probably lots of things.

re: #70 Slumbering Behemoth

Why don’t you quit cryin’ and get me some bourbon? ;p

re: #71 sagehen

But on the bright side, "hiking the Appalachian Trail" has entered the lexicon as an all-purpose euphemism for... well, probably lots of things.

Indeed. And at the very least, "Appalachian Fail" will endure as a euphemism for "bad cover story".

HuffPo is collecting suggestions for Sanford's "trail name".

re: #72 Sharmuta

Careful, don't be trippin or else he's gonna...

re: #70 Slumbering Behemoth

The ones I have hooked up with were devilishly clever at hiding their monstrous side until after a serious, difficult to quickly back out of commitment was made. I've been played for a fool more than once.

Never got that far with any of the bad ones, and even so the bad ones were never that bad. I haven't nearly as bad of the horror stories as most of my friends.

re: #74 laZardo

Careful, don't be trippin or else he's gonna...

Spot him, got him, as I pulls out my strap
Got my chrome to the side of his Red Smurf hat
You tryin' to check my homey, you better check yo smurf!

re: #71 sagehen

It will all come out in the wash. I haven't been following this closely, but I would not be shocked to learn that this has something to do with a mistress/prostitute, and/or some kind of drug abuse.

Unusual disappearances of this nature are strange and suspect when it's just a regular private citizen. They are doubly strange and suspect when it is a public figure.

BTW, Father's Day was "Naked Hiking Day" on the Appalachian Trail.

/ (it really was, though!)

re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth

It will all come out in the wash. I haven't been following this closely, but I would not be shocked to learn that this has something to do with a mistress/prostitute, and/or some kind of drug abuse.

Unusual disappearances of this nature are strange and suspect when it's just a regular private citizen. They are doubly strange and suspect when it is a public figure.

I'm just hoping he doesn't believe he's on some spiritual journey and he comes back to start a "movement" intended to get as many kooks with R's after their names in office as possible.

re: #72 Sharmuta

Hey! I'm feeling melancholy and nostalgic. And a little bit drunk. Quit picking on me!

/wait, what was the plan for the bourbon? Something sexy?

re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth

/wait, what was the plan for the bourbon? Something sexy?

Maybe. Does the bourbon have a nice personality?

re: #76 ArchangelMichael

You tryin' to check my homey, you better check yo smurf!

'fore that punk winds up six deep unda muthafukin' loose turf!

re: #79 ArchangelMichael

Pat Robertson used to go on such "spiritual journeys", even abandoning his pregnant and soon to deliver wife on one occasion. Just sayin'.

re: #71 sagehen

But he had the trail gear in his car, sleeping bag etc... parked at the airport!

That makes me think holiday with girlfriend.

The packed gear will be what sinks him as it shows premeditation of deceit of some kind and that wont sit well. All accountability points are down the drain.

re: #81 Sharmuta

Maybe. Does the bourbon have a nice personality?

Let's say it does. What happens next? Please be as accurate and descriptive as possible. Leave out no details, and tell the story slowly.
/

Well lizards...it's getting late and I really should take a hike on the Appalachin trail...

re: #86 Fenway_Nation

Good night.

re: #86 Fenway_Nation

Nighty!

re: #83 Slumbering Behemoth

Pat Robertson used to go on such "spiritual journeys", even abandoning his pregnant and soon to deliver wife on one occasion. Just sayin'.

Really? I never knew that. Can't say I'm surprised.

I'm all for spiritual quests and searching for the meaning in life, I guess, but why does it mean ditching wife and kids, for some?

re: #84 tokyobk

Your post reminds me of a joke. I'll be typing it from memory, so please forgive me if the delivery sucks.

A hard working, corporate man would go on occasional hunting trips, and usually depend on his wife to pack his clothing for him.

Well, his wife began to get suspicious when these hunting trips suddenly became much more frequent, and far less fruitful. He was going hunting more often, and bringing home fewer kills.

So when he left for his next hunting trip, she kissed him goodbye and wished him luck. Before leaving he asked her "Did you remember to pack my lucky hunting socks, the wool ones"?

To which she replied "Of course, I made a special point of doing so".

When he returned from his trip, he immediately began berating her. "You said you packed my lucky socks, but they weren't in my backpack. Was that supposed to be some kind of trick"?!

"Yes" she replied. "I packed your socks in your rifle case".

re: #84 tokyobk

But he had the trail gear in his car, sleeping bag etc... parked at the airport!

That makes me think holiday with girlfriend.

It'd be funnier if it's a boyfriend.
An underage, non-English-speaking boyfriend.
Better yet -- twin underage non-English speaking boyfriends.
With a camera.

re: #91 sagehen

It'd be funnier if it's a boyfriend.
An underage, non-English-speaking boyfriend.
Better yet -- twin underage non-English speaking boyfriends.
With a camera.

How about if it's an underage boyfriend, he wants to take pictures of him having sex with adult males, and he's a furry?

Maybe that would be old news...

Orie aide accused of soliciting teen for 'furry' sex
State senator known for tough stance on sex crimes

According to the criminal complaint, Mr. Berlin proposed traveling to the boy's home in Harrisburg, about 20 miles from Carlisle, and having sex in the backyard and in a shed on his parents' property. He also allegedly offered to arrange a meeting in a hotel room so Mr. Berlin could take photos of the boy and another adult having sex.

The online communication took place on seven different days between April 27 and May 25, according to the criminal complaint. Investigators say some of the messages originated from a Senate computer.

Investigators believe Mr. Berlin and the boy met on an Internet site for "furries," an online community of people who adopt half-animal, half-human personas.

In one message, according to the complaint, Mr. Berlin requested pictures of the boy and wrote, "When will your folks be out?"

Other messages describe various sex acts in explicit detail and refer to "yiffing," which is a "furry" term for having sex.

[Link: www.post-gazette.com...]

re: #89 iceweasel

Well, I am recalling from memory something I read long ago. A quick and dirty search comes up with this link, where this excerpt reads a lot like what I have read before:

By the next day, Robertson had undergone a conversion experience. “Dede, I’m saved!” he exclaimed to his wife. He took the nude down from the wall and put it out with the trash and, to Dede’s consternation, poured all their cognac down the drain. Although his wife was seven months pregnant, Robertson trekked off to a Christian summer camp in the Canadian woods to commune with God.

“Please come back. I need you desperately,” Dede pleaded in a note.

“I can’t leave. God will take care of you,” Robertson replied.

A letter from Lou Pritchett to President #44

Dear President Obama,

You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of the others, you truly scare me.

You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.

You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.

You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.

You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.

You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don’t understand it at its core.

You scare me because you lack humility and ‘class’, always blaming others.

You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail.

You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the ‘blame America ‘ crowd and deliver this message abroad.

You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.

You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.

You scare me because you prefer ‘wind mills’ to responsibly capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.

You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of living in the world.

You scare me because you have begun to use ‘extortion’ tactics against certain banks and corporations.

You scare me because your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.

You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent people.

You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both omnipotent and omniscient.

You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything you do.

You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the Limbaughs, Hannitys, O’Relllys and Becks who offer opposing, conservative points of view.

You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.

Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.

Sincerely,

Lou Pritchett

Lou Pritchett

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

re: #95 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

{lol} Good Morning and thanks for fruitcup.

re: #95 littleoldlady

Thanks!

Erik! :-)

Sharmuta! :-)

Caffeine isn't working... :-(

/got music?

re: #98 littleoldlady

Erik! :-)

Sharmuta! :-)

Caffeine isn't working... :-(

/got music?

For you, lol

Morning folks...coffee's on...am I too late for fruit cup?

re: #99 Erik The Red

Okay, that's working!

Thanks! :-)

/where's my blood pressure meds...? ;-)

srb! :-)

Fruitcup is...you know...on the buffet --->

re: #102 littleoldlady

Thanks, I was just hoping no one had eaten it all (you know how people get) = )

re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth

SB-- I am still reading that article, it's amazing. Thank you so much for linking it.

This seems a little revealing too, about PR's motivations:

“You need to be born again,” his mother told him, bombarding the couple with gospel tracts. At her urging, Robertson had dinner with an acquaintance of his mother, an itinerant evangelist named Cornelius Vanderbreggen, at an elegant restaurant in Philadelphia. Robertson was impressed. “I was used to the expensive bistros around New York, but that a faith missionary should say the Lord had led him to dine at this restaurant where the waiters wore white tie and tails was more than I could comprehend,” he wrote. “I thought that God’s people wore shabby clothes, baggy trousers, and suit coats that didn’t match. I thought they ate hamburger and boiled turnips.”

By the next day, Robertson had undergone a conversion experience.

Even in his own account, PR is less moved by the gospel of giving away what you have to follow Christ, and take care of the poor, than he is moved by the idea that God wants you to be rich.
Disturbing.

re: #101 littleoldlady

You could try something a little like this. Helps mellow me out sometimes.

re: #103 srb1976

True. But not to worry. It appears a lot of the fressers have gone to bed. ;-)

re: #95 littleoldlady

Hi LoL, thanks as always for the fruitcup. :)

re: #105 Slumbering Behemoth

That mellows you out? Mkay. ;-)

iceweasel! :-)

re: #103 srb1976

Well, if you missed out on the fruitcup, I have some bacon-cup on the way. It's not quite ready yet, though.

NSFLoL

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

NSFLoL! ROTFL! :-)

/thanks for the warning...

Headin' to gym. Brb.

re: #95 littleoldlady

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->

It appears as if you have taken the Dix Handley approach to the fruit cup this morning, eh?

re: #108 littleoldlady

That mellows you out? Mkay. ;-)

Well, yeah. But I am a life long metal head, so "mellow" is a relative term.

This is my usual fare.

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, if you missed out on the fruitcup, I have some bacon-cup on the way. It's not quite ready yet, though.

NSFLoL

I love that picture! = ) It looks like something Her Royal Stoutness would do, given the chance...

I wonder when we'll get our first private fruitcup.

re: #113 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

What do you suppose that is? Vodka?

And speaking of "enhanced" fruitcup...where has red been?

re: #116 Sharmuta

Oh boy! Then we can REALLY doctor it to our hearts' content! ;-)

re: #118 littleoldlady

I was thinking some night we could all just go back to a private thread, and the morning people can be all, "Where the hell is everyone?" and we'll be too drunk down on the private thread to care.

re: #116 Sharmuta

I wonder when we'll get our first private fruitcup.

What kind of fruit is it? What kind of cup is it? What exactly are you doing with these things, privately. Remember, this is for posterity, so answer in great detail, and describe it slowly.

/unless of course this turns out to be some kind of "1 Smurf, 1 Fruitcup" kind of thing. I may be a freak, but I have my damn limits!

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth

Whoa- what one smurf and one fruit cup do when they're alone together is between them. As long as it's mutually consensual...

Yay! Our Air conditioning is fixed!
The last few days have brutal...kids cranky, better half cranky (I, of course, have been sweetness and light)
Temps in the hi 90's, humid as hell, no breeze...ick!

re: #119 Sharmuta

Way back when...if you were on LGF perhaps you remember...it was a big deal to get 1000 comments on a thread, and a few of us would keep those threads alive days later, posting to/with the two or five of us who would show up. It morphed into sort of a private thread.

Charles would close it after 7 days (does he still do that?) and it was a race to see who could be LAST!

/that was before there was a penalty for being FOIST! ;-)

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth

This might finally wake me up...

re: #121 Sharmuta

So, what happens in Smurf Village, stays in Smurf Village?

/Oh, if the mushrooms could talk, what would they say?

re: #117 littleoldlady

What do you suppose that is? Vodka?
/blockquote>

For Dix's secret recipe, read his quote at the head of this LNDT. ;^O

re: #126 freetoken

re: #124 littleoldlady

Variation on a theme... ;-)

re: #94 Erik The Red

A letter from Lou Pritchett to President #44

I can't answer all of Lou's concerns, but let me take a stab at some of them.

You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.

Really? After two best-selling books and a two-year campaign, which included dozens of debates, dozens of speeches and constant press availability -- followed by an inauguration that included yet more speeches, and now almost six months in office that include so far several foreign trips with still more speeches and press conferences, daily press releases, dozens of appointments of people whose own views are well-known, several major pieces of legislation... you still know nothing about him? Really? You're just not paying attention.

You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.

Did I mention the two best-selling books? Took care of all his student loans, with enough left over to fill his kids' college accounts and buy a nice house. Then there's the 3 years worth of income tax returns that have been publicly released. Close to 900k for 2008, I'd hardly call that "no visible means of support."

You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don’t understand it at its core.

Which is such a sharp contrast to the grounded TANG-president and his 5-deferrments VP.

You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.
You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.
You scare me because you prefer ‘wind mills’ to responsibly capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.
You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of living in the world.

If you feel certain these things are true, why did you say you know nothing about him?

You scare me because your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.

In contrast to how congressional Republicans so vigorously obstructed overspending by their party's... oh right, that didn't happen.

You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent people.

You mean like inviting members of the opposition to the White House repeatedly and soliciting their input into the stimulus bill? Like sitting down to dinner with half a dozen top conservative columnists? Having members of the opposition party as Secretary of Defense, Secretary of the Army, Secretary of Transportation, Nat'l Endowment for the Humanities and Ambassador to China?

You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the Limbaughs, Hannitys, O’Relllys and Becks who offer opposing, conservative points of view.

He's certainly ridiculed the Limbaugh etcs... in what way has he ever done anything to try to silence them?

Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.

Paranoid much?

re: #128 sagehen

Is it bad that my first thought after reading this is "It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you"? = )

re: #123 littleoldlady

I remember the K rushes.

re: #128 sagehen

Are you serious? Bill Ayers, terrorist and rapist, wrote Dreams of My father. Pretty scary if you ask me.

re: #123 littleoldlady

And yes- threads are archived after a week.

re: #131 Sheepdogess

You have proof of that, right?

re: #131 Sheepdogess

Are you serious? Bill Ayers, terrorist and rapist, wrote Dreams of My father. Pretty scary if you ask me.

You have to be kidding with that claim.

re: #133 Sharmuta

You have proof of that, right?

I'm counting down to a link to the ridiculous Jack Cashill 'analysis' over at American Thinker.

re: #133 Sharmuta

I thought it was supposed to have been ghost written by Genghis Manson. Or was it Destro? So hard to keep up.
/

For some reason I am getting the strong urge to post a spin-off about Michele Bachmann hanging out with the Alex-Jones fan group (which was distributing the ObamaDeception DVD), where she promised to bring her Friend Ron Paul to Minnesota to speak about the Fed...

re: #129 srb1976

Is it bad that my first thought after reading this is "It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you"? = )

Philip K. Dick ? ?
Was that the line of thought you were entertaining?

Good morning Lizardia!

re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth

Maybe it was the magic pen of that famous Japanese witch, Yubaba ?

re: #128 sagehen

Really? After two best-selling books and a two-year campaign, which included dozens of debates, dozens of speeches and constant press availability -- followed by an inauguration that included yet more speeches, and now almost six months in office that include so far several foreign trips with still more speeches and press conferences, daily press releases, dozens of appointments of people whose own views are well-known, several major pieces of legislation... you still know nothing about him? Really? You're just not paying attention.

People don't read books, they depend upon the MSM to give them the facts.

Why wasn't his radio interview in which he said he believed in "redistributing wealth" and "reparations" for African Americans widely broadcast? Why wasn't his relationship with Bill Ayers examined? Rather the press was willing to accept that he was "just someone from the neighborhood". Why, even now, is his speech where he says he believes in a "single payer" healthcare system (from 2002) where he also says it will be done in stages, not brought up? Why did American Jews in Israel NOT support him (25% did - now it's down to 6%, btw) vs. American Jews who overwhelmingly supported him (78%)? [Hint: Could have been what the press reported? NAH.]

Where is the Kahlidi tape that the LA Times is still not releasing?!

re: #138 callahan23

Actually, I'm not sure what the source is (bad of me I know) but it's kind of a running joke in my family...

re: #137 freetoken

Probably should.

re: #128 sagehen

You mean like inviting members of the opposition to the White House repeatedly and soliciting their input into the stimulus bill?

Repeatedly? I remember once. And that was the meeting he told them, "We won", right?

/why bother inviting them?

re: #137 freetoken

Do it.

re: #137 freetoken

Well, it's gotta be more informative and insightful than that midget pr0n I was thinking of linking.
/

Iranian tweets:

Wednesday 4pm Baharestan Sq, Tehran - Sea of Green

MOUSAVi - on his wesite - Wed Sea of Green is 100% confirmed - no cancellation will be made #Iranelection RT RT RT

Larijani pressing for Mousavi to be given airtime on IRIB to discuss elections

Mousavi has stated 'If I am arrested or killed - strike until the Gov falls'

RE "Mousavi w/ the assassin" @iranbaan with all due respect, this is exactly the sort of rumor we should contain rather than emanating.

Unconfirmed reports on a planned arrest or assassination of Mousavi w/ the assassin killed on the spot.

State TV deems Neda's killing 'staged'

Kayhan - Iranian Gov newspaper - has tonight called forthe arrest of Mousavi 6-23-victim-tribute1

tomorrow Mousavi annouce start of a new type of protests - peaceful and silent - soon there will be strikes

1 voice from Tehran: many were waiting for Obama to "condemn" #iranelection violence, which he did today. "He's in the right spot"

Obama's comments worth a read, v. strong words, tho delicate effort to avoid apprnce of meddling

6-23-victim-tribute2 Iranian Govn't puts all efforts towards crackdown, as well as case creation for reformists. Rafsanjani holds the key.

the only question now is how will the end happen - peacefully or with civil war

the ppl have lost all faith in this Gov - Iran can never be same as b4 again

all hospitals is surrounded by militia to check why ppl going in - if gun or baton injury - they arrest and beat u

all foreign embassys surrounded by militia to stop ppl going in

Anti-Riots Vans moving toward Narmak (East Tehran).6-23-army-standing-guard

Clashes at Baharestan Sq.

we have report of large street battles in east & west of Tehran now

The parks in north of city are closed at night and militia attacking any ppl in park or walking in streets

We can hear ppl shouting from balcony right now 'Allah Akbar - death to Khamenei'

Obama's comments worth a read, v. strong words, tho delicate effort to avoid apprnce of meddling [Link: bit.ly...]

Bad news for Iran tweets, govt better at slowing proxy servers [Link: tinyurl.com...]

Relieved to see Iran & #iranelection still out-trending Jon & Kate on Twitter

Many asking why fewer Tweets from Iran. Ans. is internet access more and more restricted

re: #145 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, it's gotta be more informative and insightful than that midget pr0n I was thinking of linking.
/

I think they prefer to be called little people
///

re: #141 srb1976

Actually, I'm not sure what the source is (bad of me I know) but it's kind of a running joke in my family...

Philip K. Dick the renowned science fiction writer was convinced all his life that the government was spying on him. I don't recall if after his death or shortly before, it transpired that the FBI really had a file on him. They were watching him, which vindicates him. He was not paranoid after all.

re: #147 srb1976

Actually, the correct term is "dwarf", believe it or not. True midgets are quite rare.

re: #146 Kenneth

State TV deems Neda's killing 'staged'

I shouldn't be surprised, but I still lose my breath over their utter shamelessness. Depraved!

Thank you for posting these.

re: #147 srb1976

I think they prefer to be called little people
///

Yes, we do.

;-)

re: #148 callahan23

Wow, I did not know any of that...cool.

Well folks, time to get back to the salt mines...have a great day!

re: #152 srb1976

Wow, I did not know any of that...cool.

Well folks, time to get back to the salt mines...have a great day!

I am also off to do some work.
See y'all later in the day.

Bye, srb! :-)

I have to get moving, too. :-(

Good day, ALL!™

re: #151 littleoldlady

Yes, we do.

;-)

One of the resteraunts I worked at, I had a manager that used to sing that song under his breath every time he walked by me! Funny as hell

/Not QUITE a little person

re: #146 Kenneth

Mousavi has stated 'If I am arrested or killed - strike until the Gov falls'

I hope they do that without him getting killed.

re: #154 littleoldlady

Bye, {lol}!

For those who didn't get my Yubaba reference, she is a central character (antagonist) in the Japanese story (and wonderful animated feature) Spirited Away.

She has lots of magical toys, including pens that write themselves, etc.

Her most important role in the story though is in changing the major protagonist's name, taking away most of the kanji characters leaving a single syllable. By changing the name, Yubaba also takes away the protagonist's memory of her name. Only when the protagonist can remember her name will she be able to escape the clutches Yubaba.

/Perhaps my cultural references are a bit, um... specialized?

A real midget.

Please understand, I am not using that term in a disparaging way.

re: #158 freetoken

For those who didn't get my Yubaba reference, she is a central character (antagonist) in the Japanese story (and wonderful animated feature) Spirited Away.

She has lots of magical toys, including pens that write themselves, etc.

Her most important role in the story though is in changing the major protagonist's name, taking away most of the kanji characters leaving a single syllable. By changing the name, Yubaba also takes away the protagonist's memory of her name. Only when the protagonist can remember her name will she be able to escape the clutches Yubaba.

/Perhaps my cultural references are a bit, um... specialized?

That is one of my daughter's favorite videos.
Let's hope America remembers her name and heritage to overcome the "evil" that overtakes her.

Goood Mooorning, Liiizards!

re: #142 Sharmuta

Probably should.

Yes but... Bachmann is such an easy target. All I have to do is google her name and something is bound to come up.

The worst part of the story though isn't Bachmann. It was the event, namely the MN GOP central committee meeting on the 15th of this month. The Alex Jones people set up a table in the exhibition area, giving out truther DVDs and the ObamaDeception DVD. Pawlenty apparently had the good sense to turn down the truther DVD... yet what does Bachmann do? She stands around, chats with them, promises to bring her friend Ron Paul to MN to talk about the Fed!

Denser than lead.

Three, Two, One ...

Prior to 1990, when Barack Obama contracted to write Dreams From My Father, he had written very close to nothing. Then, five years later, this untested 33 year-old produced what Time Magazine has called -- with a straight face -- "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician."

The public is asked to believe Obama wrote Dreams From My Father on his own, almost as though he were some sort of literary idiot savant. I do not buy this canard for a minute, not at all. Writing is as much a craft as, say, golf. To put this in perspective, imagine if a friend played a few rounds in the high 90s and then a few years later, without further practice, made the PGA Tour. It doesn't happen.

And yet, given the biases of the literary establishment, no reviewer of note has so much as questioned Obama's role in the writing, then or now. As the New York Times gushed, Obama was "that rare politician who can write . . . and write movingly and genuinely about himself." These accolades matter all the more because Obama has built his political persona around his presumably superior intellect, Dreams being exhibit A.

Shy of a confession by those involved, I will not be able to prove conclusively that Obama did not write this book. As shall be seen, however, there are only two real possibilities: one is that Obama experienced a near miraculous turnaround in his literary abilities; the second is that he had major editorial help, up to and including a ghostwriter.

The weight of the evidence overwhelming favors the latter conclusion and strongly suggests who that ghostwriter is. In that this remains something of a work in progress, I am willing to test my hypothesis against any standard of proof and appreciate any and all good leads.

Who Wrote Dreams and Why It Matters

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

re: #163 Sheepdogess

Did you miss the part where he admits he can't prove his claim?

re: #162 freetoken

It's the alex jones angle. You should let people know.

Good Morning LGF
It's a little bit funny...

re: #163 Sheepdogess

Three, Two, One ...

Who Wrote Dreams and Why It Matters

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

Jack Cashill's claim to expertise rests on the fact that he's ghostwritten a celeb biography.

Me, I'll go with the guy who actually is an academic, who spends his life trained in the analysis of texts.

Why Jack Cashill is an idiot, in brief:

According to Jack Cashill—in an article first published at WorldNetDaily—Dreams from My Father was probably written by Bill Ayers. Cashill opens by demonstrating that Obama, unlike every undergraduate ever, published crap poems in a college literary journal. These crap poems “show not a glint of promise,” Cashill tells us, nor did a “heavily edited, unsigned student case comment” published in the Harvard Law Review.

Cashill is no ordinary literary detective: in the past he has been called upon to rescue celebrity biographies, so he recognizes when someone, in this case “[w]hoever rescued Barack Obama’s Dreams from My Father[,] invest[s] considerable time to invent a distinct voice and style for an unknown author.” And who is this someone?

Bill Ayers.

How does Cashill know? Because the “distinct voice and style” Ayers invents for Obama “is surely Ayers’ [own].” Ayers invented a style—his own—then wrote Dreams from My Father in it.

(snip, but I encourage everyone to read the whole thing)

To be blunt: if you find Cashill’s identification of “sea imagery” and his lists of words both Obama and Ayers use to be particularly anything other than laughable pablum, you’re an eighth-wit.

If, however, you only use Cashill’s juvenile musings as a hypothetical which, if true, suggests all the unsavory things you already believe about Obama, then you’ve fully embraced the Cashill Doctrine. What do I mean by that? If you deconstruct Cashill’s name, you’ll find that it contains the words “cash” and shill.” “Cash” refers to paper bank notes which, in more robust times, could be exchanged for goods or services. A “shill,” according to the Oxford English Dictionary, is “one who poses as a disinterested advocate of another but is actually of the latter’s party; a mouthpiece, a stooge.” It goes without saying that shills often shill for cash, but in this case, I think we can say the shill’s shilling for cash and attention.

Because no one with any literary training can read Cashill’s tripe without recognizing it as the shoddy work of a dim student asked to compare and contrast two texts.

[Link: edgeofthewest.wordpress.com...]

re: #163 Sheepdogess

Three, Two, One ...

Who Wrote Dreams and Why It Matters

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

VERY interesting article! Too many literary similarities to ignore!

re: #168 songbird

Um- that's all speculation.

re: #140 littleoldlady

Why did American Jews in Israel NOT support him (25% did - now it's down to 6%, btw) vs. American Jews who overwhelmingly supported him (78%)? [Hint: Could have been what the press reported? NAH.]

Or it could be because Jews in Israel don't care about Sarah Palin, and Jews in America really do. A lot.

I cannot stress enough how much American Jews hate Sarah Palin.

And of course, American Jews in Israel base their vote entirely on foreign policy. American Jews in America are also very interested in American domestic policy (especially health care and education).

re: #168 songbird

VERY interesting article! Too many literary similarities to ignore!

Good morning songbird!

Not at all. The only literary similarities Cashill can point to are "an obsession with the instability of memory" -- i.e., the central concern for everyone writing an autobiography, a well known and well worn concern especially for those with any familiarity with postmodernism-- and sea imagery.

If the use of metaphors deriving from the sea means someone is ghostwriting, I guess Homer has ghostwritten...well, everything.

re: #169 Sharmuta

Um- that's all speculation.

Yes, but it would show whose material Obama had been reading, studying, and whose literary style he would have absorbed. I agree with the writer of the article that Obama is still not an inspired writer...about as inspired as when he is not reading off the teleprompter, and that is pretty marginal.

I sure would like to know more about his education...his transcripts...and who funded him through college. Is that information available yet?

re: #172 songbird

I sure would like to know more about his education...his transcripts...and who funded him through college. Is that information available yet?

Beware the Dark Side, for once you go down that path forever will it dominate you.

Morning Lizards.

re: #170 sagehen

non ortho, and non russian jews in america are mostly liberal american jews in Israel mostly not liberal about half of them are ortho jews.

re: #171 iceweasel

There it is. I am commissioning Homer (Not of Simpson) to ghostwrite my next erotic thriller recounting my exploits with a midget cyborg and a multi-tongued Amazonian priestess in our quest for Aztec gold and forbidden pleasures. I smell a "movie of the week" here.

/getting too goofy to keep posting, g'nite Lizards.

re: #167 iceweasel

So you don't even believe Dreams was ghostwritten?

re: #172 songbird

I really don't have that many questions about what 0bama studied or learned. I assumed it was standard elitist socialism available on nearly every American campus.

As for his transcripts and funding- I don't know if he's required to turn over that information. It would be nice to see it, but I'm not sure what it has to do with his authorship of Dreams.

re: #174 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Morning rs. :)

re: #173 freetoken

Beware the Dark Side, for once you go down that path forever will it dominate you.

Unfortunately, the Dark Side seems to be trying to dominate us.

My interest is but a fleeting fancy...at least I don't go down the merry nirther path!

re: #177 Sheepdogess

Did you miss the part where he said he can't prove his claim?

re: #172 songbird

Yes, but it would show whose material Obama had been reading, studying, and whose literary style he would have absorbed.

Not in this case. It shows only that Ayers and Obama are both the product of having been through college post 1960, and both took some liberal arts courses--or were otherwise exposed to standard po-mo, lit-crit ideas, same as everyone who's been through college now.

Edit: Sharm just said this above in a much better way

re: #181 Sharmuta

No.

re: #183 Sheepdogess

Great- we await your proof of your claim then.

re: #182 iceweasel

Not in this case. It shows only that Ayers and Obama are both the product of having been through college post 1960, and both took some liberal arts courses--or were otherwise exposed to standard po-mo, lit-crit ideas, same as everyone who's been through college now.

Edit: Sharm just said this above in a much better way

I can see that.
I'm not saying that Ayers did the ghostwriting, but that there are similarities. And we do tend to take inspiration from those with whom we associate. I see this in music all the time, especially in my musicological studies.

Look, I'll give just one example. At the end of cashill's article, he thinks he's delivered the definitive deathblow by pointing out that Obama uses the word "ballast".

Cashill's reasoning? "Ballast is a nautical term, Ayers once worked on a boat, AND..." (wait for it, this is the best part) "I didn't know what ballast meant until I looked it up"

So Cashill's best, most irrefutable evidence that Ayers wrote Dreams is that Cashill is too stupid to have encountered the word ballast before, and he's too illiterate to realise that it's often used in metaphorical contexts.

Thanks, but no thanks. I prefer my 'experts' to argue from a position of, well, knowing something, rather than arguing that "I never heard of this before, therefore i can draw conclusions about it."

/rant off (sorry, but Cashill setting himself up as some kind of faux-academic burns my ass)

re: #185 songbird

We do tend to take inspiration from those with whom we associate. I see this in music all the time, especially in my musicological studies.

Absolutely. It happens all the time in music.
In literature as well as music, it's exceedingly rare for a person to have only one influence; typically they have many, and they are also typically the product of some tradition(s) or other, no matter how innovative they may be.

Same with Ayers and Obama. Not that either is particularly innovative in terms of lit style, at all, but they're products of the same tradition. Like anyone else who went to those schools or ones like them.

re: #179 Erik The Red

Morning Erik.

re: #186 iceweasel

Are you an Obama supporter?

re: #185 songbird

He started his political career in billy bombers home, so there's no doubt in my mind where 0bama's coming from politically. But this blog is Anti-Idiotarian HQ, and we fact check. There's no proof ayers wrote that for 0bama. I think some people want things to be true about 0bama, so they believe them despite the lack of evidence.

And now for our intermission:

re: #189 Sheepdogess

Are you an Obama supporter?

Do you use soap, or body wash?
This is a completely irrelevant question.
You don't need to be an Obama supporter to see that Cashill is full of it.

re: #190 Sharmuta

He started his political career in billy bombers home, so there's no doubt in my mind where 0bama's coming from politically. But this blog is Anti-Idiotarian HQ, and we fact check. There's no proof ayers wrote that for 0bama. I think some people want things to be true about 0bama, so they believe them despite the lack of evidence.

There is a lot of stupidity that flies around for lack of evidence. I think a person is as a person does, and the radical influences from Obama's life manifest themselves in the policies and philosophies he espouses and the actions he takes based on them . Those will be his downfall in the long run - not speculative literary analysis.

re: #193 songbird

I tell you what- he pushes for meetings with the thugs of Tehran, and that might be his undoing.

re: #193 songbird

I think it's also easy for people to believe in speculative stuff when it fits with their worldview, and confirms an opinion they already hold of someone they don't like.
And that's something that crosses partylines, of course. The left did it about GWB all the time too.

re: #193 songbirdmot
There is a lot of silliness on here-most in fun, and there is occasional stupidity. There are also a lot of very smart people here.
Like you. A thousand updings to you songbrd.

re: #195 iceweasel

I think it's also easy for people to believe in speculative stuff when it fits with their worldview, and confirms an opinion they already hold of someone they don't like.
And that's something that crosses partylines, of course. The left did it about GWB all the time too.

People don't want the truth- they want propaganda.

re: #197 Sharmuta

People don't want the truth- they want propaganda.

That's right. That's what most people want, when they don't want updates on Jon and Kate and American Idol and whatever other crap we're mainlining now.
People don't like thinking.

Nick Cave knew what he was talking about.

People Ain't No Good.

re: #196 jim in virginia

mot
There is a lot of silliness on here-most in fun, and there is occasional stupidity. There are also a lot of very smart people here.
Like you. A thousand updings to you songbrd.

You are very kind. Thank you!

Later Lizards.

9 day countdown until I arrive back in the USA. :)

re: #200 Erik The Red

Stay safe... be happy!

re: #174 rightside

Good morning Lizards.

re: #202 mamacares

Good morning Lizards.

Good morning! How are you this fine day?

re: #174 rightside

Good Morning rightside

re: #202 mamacares

re: #204 soxfan4life

morning mamacares, soxfan.

re: #186 iceweasel

I am an electrician so ballast to me is what makes a flourescent light work, how does that fit into his line of thinking?///

I re: #198 iceweasel

Who's John and Kate?

Good morning, dear friends!

re: #206 soxfan4life

Navy ships are chock full 'o fluorescent lighting. I learned about ballasts and starters that way!

Transformers was pretty darn good.

re: #207 Sheepdogess

I

Who's John and Kate?

An inconsequential divorcing couple with a lot of kids who have more than their share of fame and limelight.

Iceweasel- good call on the link that was forthcoming as "proof", BTW.

re: #208 Irish Rose

Morning!

Ugh, feels like it's going to be another hot one.

re: #209 rightside

If you work on the wiring, just don't get caught up on the neutral(white) wire, on flourescent lighting that one will tear you up.

re: #214 Irish Rose

Ugh, feels like it's going to be another hot one.

Where are you?

good morning lizards :)

re: #213 Sharmuta

Morning!

Morning, Sharmuta... anything interesting to report this morning?

re: #216 songbird

Where are you?

Michigan, along the shoreline.
Last few days have been very hot and sticky.

re: #214 Irish Rose

Ugh, feels like it's going to be another hot one.

Here in the Northeast, otherwise known as Seattle East we have another wet one.

Good morning, Gella!

re: #214 Irish Rose

I've seen pictures of where you live. Which do you prefer?

Snow so thick that you post a picture and people (ME!) say, "wow, that is thick fog"

or

"another hot one"?

re: #215 soxfan4life

The Navy is anal about securing power and red tagging it before working on it. During the tagging process, you need a separate person to verify the correct breaker. Once tagged, you must verify no power to the fixture by using a multimeter. Then, and only then, can you work on it.

Comes in handy when working on -28,000 volt radar power supplies.

re: #218 Irish Rose

Just that "A Nonny Moose" is funny as hell.

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've seen pictures of where you live. Which do you prefer?

Snow so thick that you post a picture and people (ME!) say, "wow, that is thick fog"

or

"another hot one"?

I see your point ;).

re: #224 Sharmuta

Just that "A Nonny Moose" is funny as hell.

Nonny Moose is brilliant.

OK, where are all our East coast lizards this morning?

re: #227 Irish Rose

East coast here.

re: #206 soxfan4life

I am an electrician so ballast to me is what makes a flourescent light work, how does that fit into his line of thinking?///

*channelling cashill* 'Since I have never heard of ballast as electricians use it, and since my dictionary didn't mention it, there are no such things as electricians'.

How are you today, soxfan?re: #212 Sharmuta

Iceweasel- good call on the link that was forthcoming as "proof", BTW.

I knew Cashill was the author of that ridiculous rumour, but the really interesting thing is that Cashill originally published it on WingNut Daily, and later on his own site, and American Thinker is only another place that picked it up. I remembered AT because I just saw last week that they were still publishing dreck by Cashill.

That fact that this person went straight to the source *I* mentioned --when it wasn't even the first or main place this article appeared--suggests to me that they genuinely knew nothing at all about this, apart from what they'd heard fringe blogs mutter.

I don't think this person knew Cashill was the source, nor do I think this person ever even read Cashill.

It's clear he or she never did any research on it.

re: #223 rightside

The Navy is anal about securing power and red tagging it before working on it. During the tagging process, you need a separate person to verify the correct breaker. Once tagged, you must verify no power to the fixture by using a multimeter. Then, and only then, can you work on it.

Comes in handy when working on -28,000 volt radar power supplies.

Lots of time they use multiwire branch circuits on lighting which is a 3 phase network with a common neutral.So the feed can be dead but there is more voltage on the neutral than on the hot wires. I got hung up in one once, it was the only time I couldn't break myself clear. Had someone else not knocked the ladder out from under me it could have been fatal. As for radar power supplies, we had to work on the 400hz generators. Electricity at 400hz is alot scarier than at 60hz.

If the time comes when the Israeli Arab birthrate is less than the Jewish one, then the Israeli demographic argument against a one-state solution disappears.
Just so you all realize the implications of bandying around all these questionable statistics.

Morning all.

Very depressing story from Worcester, MA. A Judge sent a 7-year old boy to live with his biological father (a multiply convicted felon) for the summer. He'd never known the boy,who had been living in AL with his grandmother (who has custody). The father promptly beat the boy to the point where he's "clinically dead" and the police are calling it a murder investigation.

Two words: death penalty

re: #227 Irish Rose

East Coast here as well, Boston metrowest area.

re: #229 iceweasel

Except for being soaked to the gills I'm fine. How are you today?

re: #233 soxfan4life

Just fine, about to become horribly depressed by reading the link lincolntf just left us, I think. :(

re: #232 Lincolntf

Unfortunately it will never happen here in the People's Republic of Taxachussetts. He'll get his though either at Walpole or Concord.

re: #230 soxfan4life

What a coinky-dink. As part of my element, we worked on 400Hz converters too. 3-phase, 60Hz, 450VAC in, 3-phase, 400Hz, 450VAC out at 600A. 4 of them running in parallel, feeding the entire boat.

re: #207 Sheepdogess

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Who's John and Kate?

Jon and Kate Gosselin had twin girls--Cara and Mady--when they decided they wanted another kid. Kate's fertility treatment lead to another set of multiples-- Hannah, Alexis, Leah, Aaden, Colin and Joel. TLC has a show, Jon & Kate Plus Eight, that has chronicled their lives for years.

Kate's a highly organized woman who tends to be very bossy at times. Jon can be rather wishy-washy. Jon one day decided to stick his dick where it didn't belong, and got caught by the paparazzi that were following him. So, now they are divorcing.

From what I've gathered, they plan on "nesting" during and after the divorce, which means that the kids will not have to go from their home to their parents' respective homes, instead their parents will take turns living in the kids' home.

re: #227 Irish Rose

Maryland!

re: #236 rightside

What a coinky-dink. As part of my element, we worked on 400Hz converters too. 3-phase, 60Hz, 450VAC in, 3-phase, 400Hz, 450VAC out at 600A. 4 of them running in parallel, feeding the entire boat.

With that 400 cycles it makes the effective voltage greater doesn't it? And did you ever have to work on the chiller units for the boat?

re: #203 songbird

Hopeful, thank you.

re: #232 Lincolntf

Morning all.

Very depressing story from Worcester, MA. A Judge sent a 7-year old boy to live with his biological father (a multiply convicted felon) for the summer. He'd never known the boy,who had been living in AL with his grandmother (who has custody). The father promptly beat the boy to the point where he's "clinically dead" and the police are calling it a murder investigation.

Two words: death penalty

That's terrible! Didn't anyone notice anything? Reporting abuse can be done anonymously so easily!

I'm not a eugenics fan, but some people should never be allowed to care for children.

re: #237 MandyManners

I'm not condoning Jon's behavior at all, but how much is Kate doing with the kids when she's out doing book signing tours and criss-crossing the country. Seems as though there is enough bad behavior on both sides. Maybe that is why there was a cash settlement offer made at the time Kate filed for divorce. As for the nesting, it only seems practical, imagine the entourage required to transport all 8 back and forth.

re: #232 Lincolntf

Morning all.

Very depressing story from Worcester, MA. A Judge sent a 7-year old boy to live with his biological father (a multiply convicted felon) for the summer. He'd never known the boy,who had been living in AL with his grandmother (who has custody). The father promptly beat the boy to the point where he's "clinically dead" and the police are calling it a murder investigation.

Two words: death penalty

Fry the bastard.
Ditto the judge who is now an accessory.

re: #241 mamacares

Hopeful, thank you.

Hopeful is always good!

/unless it is hopenchange hopeful! LOL

re: #238 songbird

Maryland!

Crab cakes, mmm.

I just got mail from a college friend of mine who is also a veteran, and who worked in Iraq providing security for people and things that needed to get froom point A to point B. He is a good guy with a great sense of humor, and a generous spirit.
All of which makes it even more difficult to read his Bilderberger, CFR, Luap Nor, Nazis-as-Darwinists, Soros, WorldNetDaily lunacy.
He wrote a conspiracy introduction to a Darwin-bashing "book review" posted to WND by petulant kook Ellis Washington. In his introduction, he announces that the History Channel program Life After People (based on the informative and engaging book) is one of the ways in which we are being programmed by our masters, evidence of our sinister overlords' view that "we are not needed in the future."

I really want to engage him on this, but I absolutely dread the conversation. I would rather remember him the way I do now, and I fear that by engaging, all I will accomplish is to degrade the memory of an old friend. Still clinging to my illusion, I guess.

re: #225 Irish Rose

I see your point ;).

heh... you should frame that picture... hang it during the steamy months.

That was really funny. Do you remember posting that picture? I swear, I thought it was a fog enclosed shoreline.

re: #246 Irish Rose

Crab cakes, mmm.

soft shell crab on a bun! Delicious

(or as my dear husband calls it - "spider on a bun" -yuk)

re: #247 haakondahl

Tough call, Hon. Sounds like he's in deep and confronting this will not help either of you. {haak}

re: #247 haakondahl

I really enjoy the show "Life After People".

I, for one, do not need an "overlord" to tell me that the planet would do just fine without us.

Don't engage the friend... "Egon has gone bye-bye!"

re: #240 Iron Fist

Sometimes the Death Penalty is the only thing remotely akin to justice. An eye for an eye, a life for a life. It makes sense to me.

I don't know. In this case, we've got a guy in his late 30's, who murdered his kid, and made that child's life a misery for weeks beforehand.

That guy has had so many years that the child didn't get to have. He stole those years.

In a way, I'd rather this guy stay alive, in very unhappy conditions, for a long time. Because death alone lets him off too easy.
And people who kill kids, especially their own, aren't too well liked in prison. No-one there will buy the "it was an accident" bullshit, given that it'd apparently been going on for weeks.

re: #239 soxfan4life

400Hz is more damaging physically, so in that sense yes. I did not work on any AC stuff on board, those are for the ships engineer ratings.

In addition to working on electrical circuits and power supplies/converters for our own equipment, we also learned hi power radar systems, digital electronics and signal processing, plus fiber optic lans and computing.

I'm sure I could pick up AC fairly easily though.

re: #247 haakondahl

I just got mail from a college friend of mine who is also a veteran, and who worked in Iraq providing security for people and things that needed to get froom point A to point B. He is a good guy with a great sense of humor, and a generous spirit.
All of which makes it even more difficult to read his Bilderberger, CFR, Luap Nor, Nazis-as-Darwinists, Soros, WorldNetDaily lunacy.
He wrote a conspiracy introduction to a Darwin-bashing "book review" posted to WND by petulant kook Ellis Washington. In his introduction, he announces that the History Channel program Life After People (based on the informative and engaging book) is one of the ways in which we are being programmed by our masters, evidence of our sinister overlords' view that "we are not needed in the future."

I really want to engage him on this, but I absolutely dread the conversation. I would rather remember him the way I do now, and I fear that by engaging, all I will accomplish is to degrade the memory of an old friend. Still clinging to my illusion, I guess.