The Investigative Project has a chilling report on the increasingly sophisticated jihad propaganda aimed at children in the Middle East: ’Birds of Paradise’ – Martyrdom Recruitment as Children’s Entertainment.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:26:33am |
I cannot say anything that won't get deleted.
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johnnyreb Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:26:37am |
Wow, just Wow. That is some sick stuff. And to think every time I fill up my car with gas I am contributing money indirectly to those sickos.
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zombie Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:28:01am |
"Birds of paradise," eh?
Sounds like what they promise to Cockney jihadis:
"Blow yersef up fer Allah, bloke, and you'll get 72 birds in paradise!"
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:28:30am |
re: #3 johnnyreb
Wow, just Wow. That is some sick stuff. And to think every time I fill up my car with gas I am contributing money indirectly to those sickos.
I don't--I take the bus!
///sorry
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unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:29:31am |
Look away lefty MSM it's only world scale child abuse. Nothing to report.
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rwmofo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:30:40am |
This kind of crap doesn't surprise me any more.
...but of course "da jooooos" will be blamed for not making concessions as a pre-condition to negotiating with this bunch.
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Macker Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:31:04am |
With shit like this, it isn't the followers who should be destroyed (unless they are stupid enough to fight us on the battlefield)...but the religion itself.
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calvin coolidge Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:31:12am |
Jihad this and Jihad that. I don't know about you guys, but if Iran or North Korea wipes us off the map, it sure would mess up my future plans.
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dhg4 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:31:49am |
re: #4 zombie
"Birds of paradise," eh?
Sounds like what they promise to Cockney jihadis:
"Blow yersef up fer Allah, bloke, and you'll get 72 birds in paradise!"
We've had a mouse, a rabbit, now birds. What's next? Teenage Shaheed Mutant Turtles?
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:32:52am |
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doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:33:28am |
I can't even read this. We joke around about Nahoul the Bee, but these kids are being poisoned in the cradle. You can't work with a civilization this degenerate.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:33:31am |
I didn't watch it. Not sure if I need to. And if there are no cartoon charachters I will never watch.
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WinterCat Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:33:57am |
re: #13 doppelganglander
I can't even read this. We joke around about Nahoul the Bee, but these kids are being poisoned in the cradle. You can't work with a civilization this degenerate.
Exactly.
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Yashmak Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:34:11am |
From the moment I saw a picture of a ~6 yr old boy with a Hamas scarf on, in camo, with a grenade on a string around his neck, I knew everything I needed to know about the radical wing of Islam, and its political entities.
(the picture was in a Screed by Lileks, posted a few years ago)
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:34:33am |
re: #13 doppelganglander
I can't even read this. We joke around about Nahoul the Bee, but these kids are being poisoned in the cradle. You can't work with a civilization this degenerate.
Couldn't agree more.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:34:33am |
Okay, the red haze in front of my eyes is gone. I may be safe to post again.
I suppose that if a woman is raised that she is only worthwhile if she bears children, and that her abillity to do so is her most important trait (if not the only trait her culture will notice), it might not seem so odd that she would be willing to pass that same kind of thinking to her children; that they were only worth what they would do for the power structure of the culture, and have no intrinsic value in themselves.
I think I've said this before. I doubt it will be the last time.
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jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:34:36am |
Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.
Prime Minister Golda Meir
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zombie Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:34:37am |
I'm sorry, but most Muslim culture in the Middle East is sick to a level beyond our comprehension. My gloomy opinion has not changed since 2001 or 2003 -- that radical Muslims will force a massive and violent conflagration of the West vs. the Muslim world, with horrifying and miserable results for both sides -- with their side coming out on the losing side.
We've done everything we can to wake them up to reality, but they simply will not listen.
And if they think that even a lefty like Obama won't be forced to respond to serious provocation, they have another thing coming: earlier lefties like FDR, Kennedy, and LBJ had no problem whatsoever using American military power in extremis in respond to attacks or perceived threats.
I feel like we're standing here, speaking to the Muslim world, saying, "Don't poke that Grizzly bear with that stick. Stop it. Stop poking the bear. It's starting to get annoyed. For you own good, please stop...." but they just won't listen.
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JustABill Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:35:12am |
To bee or not to bee, that is the question...
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:36:16am |
Increasingly sophisticated? They're indoctrinating these kids from the crib and not exposing them to anything but hatred via a media that they control. As always, it boils down to anti-Semitism and the destruction of Israel.
What it shows is that someone is spending more money post production and providing better production values. The message is just as evil and twisted as the earlier tripe spewed by the jihadis.
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Eowyn2 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:36:25am |
re: #4 zombie
"Birds of paradise," eh?
Sounds like what they promise to Cockney jihadis:
"Blow yersef up fer Allah, bloke, and you'll get 72 birds in paradise!"
virgin birds of paradis?
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:36:32am |
Big deal, we have the Boy Scouts training little kids to be mindless soldiers.
/LLL kneejerk
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:37:22am |
re: #21 zombie
I feel like we're standing here, speaking to the Muslim world, saying, "Don't poke that Grizzly bear with that stick. Stop it. Stop poking the bear. It's starting to get annoyed. For you own good, please stop...." but they just won't listen.
Then they blame us (or Israel) when the bear strikes back.
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zombie Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:38:01am |
re: #25 Eowyn2
virgin birds of paradis?
I don't think there are too many virgin Cockney birds any more. They'll just have to settle for ones that at least don't have any STDs.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:38:05am |
re: #26 Occasional Reader
Big deal, we have the Boy Scouts training little kids to be mindless soldiers.
/LLL kneejerk
As an Eagle Scout, I take offense!
As for sarcasm, I giggled!
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:38:26am |
re: #21 zombie
The fear is that it would take such an overwhelming and devastating attack on the US to provoke that response, but when the Administration does respond, it will do so with the full force and fury that the US military can muster - and we've been seeing for the better part of this decade what a motivated US military can do, and we've got years of institutional experience in COIN and standard warfare to work with. The jihadis just blow themselves up taking as many people as they can.
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jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:38:51am |
re: #26 Occasional Reader
Big deal, we have the Boy Scouts training little kids to be homophobic mindless soldiers.
/LLL kneejerk
FIFY
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:39:22am |
re: #34 buzzsawmonkey
Encouraging your kids to seek death is one way to save on college tuition.
IMHO, not really funny.
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:40:21am |
Fulla is exactly the same height as Barbie and has a very comparable build. But the similarities end there. The creators of Fulla--Damascus' NewBoy Design--were looking to create a doll that reflected Islamic values. To many in the Middle East, Barbie is not just a doll; she is an ambassador of decadent Western culture. This is where Fulla comes in.
The doll was an immediate sensation when it was released in Syria in 2003. Within two years of its launch, 1.5 million Fulla dolls had been sold. Marketed much like Barbie, the doll comes in a bright pink box and can be accessorized with hundreds of stylish outfits.
But unlike Barbie's baby-blues, Fulla's eyes are mocha brown, her skin a rich shade of caramel and her hair jet black. Her clothing is modest and covers the majority of her body. She can pick from a wide variety of head scarves and long coats, but no bikinis.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:40:26am |
And let's not forget, radical Islam justifies killing Jewish children because they will eventually be in the Israeli Army. Yet they drag around their dead child "shields" without remorse. Sick fucks.
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JohnnyReb Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:40:51am |
You know we could slow this down somewhat by drilling for our own oil. Granted we can't stop importing oil and gasoline completely, but we could slow it down a whole bunch if we went flat out. Trouble is that is not going to happen until and unless there is a tremendous crisis that puts the price of gasoline at $5+ for good. Until that time we are going to pump literally a billion plus dollars to the Saudis and Iranians. They are the ones who are mostly funding this crap.
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BignJames Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:40:53am |
re: #34 buzzsawmonkey
Encouraging your kids to seek death is one way to save on college tuition.
Start 'em early....get out from under those child support payments.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:40:55am |
re: #30 MrSilverDragon
As an Eagle Scout, I take offense!
As for sarcasm, I giggled!
I didn't know Eagles Scouts giggled.
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opnion Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:41:00am |
OK, is this the muti-culturalism that we must accept?
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Eowyn2 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:41:02am |
re: #29 zombie
I don't think there are too many virgin Cockney birds any more. They'll just have to settle for ones that at least don't have any STDs.
was harriet wilson cockney?
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:41:46am |
re: #40 reloadingisnotahobby
You trained KILLER YOU!
///////////
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Eowyn2 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:42:03am |
re: #34 buzzsawmonkey
Encouraging your kids to seek death is one way to save on college tuition.
they would have to teach them to read prior to sending them to college.
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ORD neighbor Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:42:06am |
From the report:
"encourages children not simply to throw rocks, but to carry out militant attacks and to ambush Jews"
Hey, why did the hamasniks miss the "we are only fighting Zionists, not Jews" memo?
/do I have to?
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:42:43am |
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:43:02am |
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:43:23am |
re: #43 Occasional Reader
I didn't know Eagles Scouts giggled.
I do! I giggle a lot. I laugh, guffaw, snicker, and many other synonymic actions of the same!
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:43:24am |
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doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:43:38am |
re: #37 MandyManners
What happens when a little girl takes Fulla's clothes off and loses them, as little girls tend to do? Do the mullah dolls throw itty bitty stones at the doll?
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:43:50am |
re: #56 MrSilverDragon
I do! I giggle a lot. I laugh, guffaw, snicker, and many other synonymic actions of the same!
Do you titter?
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Eowyn2 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:44:15am |
re: #37 MandyManners
Fulla is exactly the same height as Barbie and has a very comparable build. But the similarities end there. The creators of Fulla--Damascus' NewBoy Design--were looking to create a doll that reflected Islamic values.
So Fulla is actually a man dressed as a woman to evade capture.
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:44:18am |
re: #58 doppelganglander
What happens when a little girl takes Fulla's clothes off and loses them, as little girls tend to do? Do the mullah dolls throw itty bitty stones at the doll?
*cringe*
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Yashmak Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:44:24am |
re: #58 doppelganglander
What happens when a little girl takes Fulla's clothes off and loses them, as little girls tend to do? Do the mullah dolls throw itty bitty stones at the doll?
Dang I wish I could give more than one upding.
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Son of the Black Dog Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:44:26am |
re: #21 zombie
I don't think it will be Obama, and not just because I don't think he hasn't got the backbone to stand up to them, but because the issue with the Muslim world won't be settled within the next 3, or even 7 years. So I think it will be the next president, or one after that. But it will happen, and you're right, it won't be pretty.
Is there a current conflict anywhere in the world that doesn't have Muslims on one side? Or both sides? I can't think of one, since the Tamil Tigers have been defeated.
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dentate Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:44:39am |
I am just heartsick after watching that video. Sick with pity for these poor children whose minds are being poisoned at such a vulnerable age by manipulating adults, sick at the way the Israelis are depicted. Once again, Golda Meir's statement comes to mind:
"“We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us”
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:44:40am |
And again: Most people in the West - not just liberals, but probably disproportionately so - simply cannot imagine the mindset involved with this sort of phenomenon. At a fundamental level, they just can't believe that people would really raise their children with the goal of turning them into explosive ordnance delivery devices. So, they rationalize that this is all simply rhetoric... "they really just want self-determination, and peace and justice!"... etc.
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:44:43am |
re: #60 Eowyn2
Fulla is exactly the same height as Barbie and has a very comparable build. But the similarities end there. The creators of Fulla--Damascus' NewBoy Design--were looking to create a doll that reflected Islamic values.
So Fulla is actually a man dressed as a woman to evade capture.
Osama lives on!
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:44:59am |
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:45:31am |
re: #64 dentate
I am just heartsick after watching that video. Sick with pity for these poor children whose minds are being poisoned at such a vulnerable age by manipulating adults, sick at the way the Israelis are depicted. Once again, Golda Meir's statement comes to mind:
"“We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us”
I had to quit watching.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:45:38am |
re: #56 MrSilverDragon
I do! I giggle a lot.
It's those damn gay Scoutmasters! I knew this would happen!
/
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:45:40am |
Ah this is all bullshit anyway, we all know the real barrier to peace in the Middle East is all those dam Israeli carpenters. Get real people! Just go ask George Mitchell and the State Department.
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Eowyn2 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:45:41am |
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Yashmak Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:46:10am |
re: #63 Son of the Black Dog
Is there a current conflict anywhere in the world that doesn't have Muslims on one side? Or both sides? I can't think of one, since the Tamil Tigers have been defeated.
Well, there are probably some in Africa that aren't primarily Islam vs. conflicts. . .but they don't seem to get reported much. I hear ya though.
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nyc redneck Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:46:36am |
this is the worst kind of depravity that human beings can commit.
setting their own children up to kill themselves and others. it is beyond evil.
islam has inspired a hideous sickness.
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:46:43am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:47:13am |
re: #69 Occasional Reader
It's those damn gay Scoutmasters! I knew this would happen!
/
[to bring back something from an earlier thread] Cripple Fight!
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:47:13am |
OT -
Farrah Fawcett has lost her battle with cancer, at age 62. She fought with great courage and faith. Prayers for her, her dad, and Ryan O'Neal, and her son Redmond, and all who who mourn her death.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:47:19am |
OT:VIA Huffpo.....
Iran doctor tells of Neda's death (video)
The doctor who tried to save an Iranian protester as she bled to death on a street in Tehran has told the BBC of her final moments.
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Baier Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:47:52am |
OT: [Link: www.badpaintingsofbarackobama.com...]
Hilarious
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Yashmak Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:48:11am |
re: #67 MrSilverDragon
Only when I'm twitterpated.
As a fellow Eagle myself, I'd like to inform you that twitterpated was recently added to the Scout Law
Trustworthy
Loyal
Helpful
Friendly
Courteous
Kind
Obedient
Cheerful
Thrifty
Brave
Clean
Reverent
Twitterpated.
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kynna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:48:16am |
How can people in western countries continue to support this movement? I find it harder and harder to explain. I know many of them are ignorant of this particular aspect, but the leaders of the support efforts can't possibly be. How do they spin it to themselves so they can sleep at night?
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:48:23am |
re: #58 doppelganglander
What happens when a little girl takes Fulla's clothes off and loses them, as little girls tend to do? Do the mullah dolls throw itty bitty stones at the doll?
No, they blame the Jooos and shoot indiscriminately in the air. It's their standard response to every affront.
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unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:48:33am |
re: #73 nyc redneck
this is the worst kind of depravity that human beings can commit.
setting their own children up to kill themselves and others. it is beyond evil.
islam has inspired a hideous sickness.
Even Lex Luther isn't this evil.
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:49:15am |
Don't forget about the child brides.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:49:18am |
re: #47 reloadingisnotahobby
You trained KILLER YOU!
///////////
Heh, actually, I did earn my NRA Sharpshooter certificate thanks to the Scouting program...
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John Neverbend Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:49:27am |
John Derbyshire, in a moment of brilliance, rewrote some popular nursery rhymes in a form more conducive to the education of young martyrs. Here's a sample:
Rock-a-bye Zionist in Tel-Aviv,
Once we've got nukes,
You'll have reason to grieve,
Once we've got missiles,
Your nation will fall,
Down will come Israel,
Zionists and all.
Malik had a little lamb, as white as white could be,
He rigged it with explosive, to make an IED.
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itellu3times Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:49:30am |
re: #37 MandyManners
Back in February of 2007, at the very same toy fair in New York City where Barbie was launched nearly 50 years earlier, America's favorite doll found herself faced with some serious, younger competition. Her name was Fulla, Syria's answer to Barbie, and this was her American debut.
Does she come in four-packs?
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solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:49:38am |
Without Palestine, what does childhood mean?
In many cases, it means living past childhood.
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WinterCat Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:49:46am |
Okay, I just watched the music video. That has to be the sickest most disgusting thing I have seen in recent years. There is no way in hell to have a dialogue with these maniacs.
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Sunlight Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:49:47am |
Not surprising. Really, considering that our own schools, owned by the left, are teaching kids that man on earth is a bad thing... the more people dead the better for the earth. Every day parents need to be countering what the schools are teaching kids through every subject. I know the LGF focus is on the sneaky creationists or the rabid rightsters, but horrible damage is being done while we look over there. What about the parents who are overwhelmed with work, etc. and aren't countering the school systems' messages?
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kynna Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:49:51am |
re: #76 Ward Cleaver
OT -
Farrah Fawcett has lost her battle with cancer, at age 62. She fought with great courage and faith. Prayers for her, her dad, and Ryan O'Neal, and her son Redmond, and all who who mourn her death.
It's always a mind-bender when an icon passes. Even when you're prepared for it.
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:50:23am |
re: #79 buzzsawmonkey
Is there a Fulla Dream Tent? A Fulla Sports Camel? Is there a Grandfather's House Key and Small Stone Pile accessory?
Ken is now a fully trained member of Hamas.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:50:28am |
re: #79 buzzsawmonkey
Is there a Fulla Dream Tent? A Fulla Sports Camel? Is there a Grandfather's House Key and Small Stone Pile accessory?
And don't forget Neda's Bomb Program Dream Lab.
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Son of the Black Dog Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:50:30am |
re: #63 Son of the Black Dog
... Is there a current conflict anywhere in the world that doesn't have Muslims on one side? Or both sides? I can't think of one, since the Tamil Tigers have been defeated.
Moreover, is there any place in the world where a significant Muslim population lives peacefully alongside non-Muslims?
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:50:45am |
re: #89 WinterCat
Okay, I just watched the music video. That has to be the sickest most disgusting thing I have seen in recent years. There is no way in hell to have a dialogue with these maniacs.
Oh yeah there is. But in the interest of staying a registered user here I'll leave it the collective imagination of those present.
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MikeAlv77 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:50:49am |
re: #19 EmmmieG
Okay, the red haze in front of my eyes is gone. I may be safe to post again.
I suppose that if a woman is raised that she is only worthwhile if she bears children, and that her abillity to do so is her most important trait (if not the only trait her culture will notice), it might not seem so odd that she would be willing to pass that same kind of thinking to her children; that they were only worth what they would do for the power structure of the culture, and have no intrinsic value in themselves.
I think I've said this before. I doubt it will be the last time.
Slight correction... as long as she bears MALE children...
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:51:03am |
re: #87 itellu3times
Does she come in four-packs?
....and is she a virgin? ... and can that be verified by other female dolls?
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A Man for all Seasons Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:51:32am |
re: #95 Nevergiveup
Oh yeah there is. But in the interest of staying a registered user here I'll leave it the collective imagination of those present.
Child Abuse
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:51:37am |
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:51:39am |
re: #90 Sunlight
I was thinking the same thought!
GMTA
Man is a boil on the earth!
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subsailor68 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:51:51am |
re: #92 MandyManners
Ken is now a fully trained member of Hamas.
Makes sense. When ya pull down his shorts there's nothing there.
(Take that you Hamas assholes!)
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:51:57am |
re: #93 Occasional Reader
And don't forget
Neda'sFulla's Bomb Program Dream Lab.
GAH!
I was just reading Killgore's Neda link. What a horrible typo to make. My apologies to the spirit of Neda.
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dentate Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:52:10am |
re: #79 buzzsawmonkey
Is there a Fulla Dream Tent? A Fulla Sports Camel? Is there a Grandfather's House Key and Small Stone Pile accessory?
Is she betrothed to a Jihadist named Osama bin Ken? Does he have his own action figure?
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:52:32am |
re: #102 Occasional Reader
GAH!
I was just reading Killgore's Neda link. What a horrible typo to make. My apologies to the spirit of Neda.
That's what you get for dissin' the Boy Scouts!
/ ;)
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unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:52:46am |
re: #81 kynna
How can people in western countries continue to support this movement? I find it harder and harder to explain. I know many of them are ignorant of this particular aspect, but the leaders of the support efforts can't possibly be. How do they spin it to themselves so they can sleep at night?
Mans mind will block out, by ignoring evil, in support, or denial.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:52:54am |
re: #85 MrSilverDragon
Heh, actually, I did earn my NRA Sharpshooter certificate thanks to the Scouting program...
RIGHT WING EXTREMIST! TEA PARTIER! AIIIIEEEE!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:52:59am |
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Scion9 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:53:14am |
re: #94 Son of the Black Dog
Moreover, is there any place in the world where a significant Muslim population lives peacefully alongside non-Muslims?
I guess it depends on what you mean by 'peace'. Singapore has a sizable Muslim minority and there is peace. Of course, there isn't any freedom...
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:53:17am |
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hazzyday Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:53:23am |
When you have a sick culture like that you have to call them on it. I doubt if the Democrats are much interested in anything outside our borders beyond European vacations. Easier to just be present.
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BignJames Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:53:54am |
re: #78 Baier
OT: [Link: www.badpaintingsofbarackobama.com...]
Hilarious
Definite postage stamp material.
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MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:54:28am |
Ministers have called on local authorities to carry out immediate checks in 15 areas that have been identified as forced-marriage risk zones, after it emerged that 33 girls had vanished from the school roll in Bradford alone.
It is the first attempt to map the national scale of the problem, which police, support workers and victims say is kept hidden by a conspiracy of silence among some, predominantly South Asian, communities.
The move came after ministers said that they were seriously concerned by the number of schoolgirls who were unaccounted for in West Yorkshire, despite inquiries by Bradford City Council. The authorities lost track of 205 youngsters, of which they have determined the whereabouts of only 172.
SNIP
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:55:14am |
re: #102 Occasional Reader
He claims they captured her killer and took his ID papers. They let him go.
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solomonpanting Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:56:39am |
The themes are easily digestible even for toddlers. Child actors portray Israeli soldiers, all wearing yarmulkes, who ruthlessly gun down other children shown playing and dancing.
Reverse the roles and then it would be accurate.
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:57:06am |
re: #58 doppelganglander
What happens when a little girl takes Fulla's clothes off and loses them, as little girls tend to do? Do the mullah dolls throw itty bitty stones at the doll?
Honour Killing playset sold separately...
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:57:09am |
re: #114 Killgore Trout
He claims they captured her killer and took his ID papers. They let him go.
Sheesh.
May justice catch up with that cowardly thug, one way or another.
| 118 |
Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:57:14am |
re: #37 MandyManners
Sadly Fulla is no longer sold having been the victim of an honor killing after friends for whom cooking meals, heard her sweet voice singing and praying, and she was stoned to death by her brothers, cousins and father.
/ - sorta
| 119 |
John Neverbend Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:57:35am |
re: #108 Cannadian Club Akbar
I doubt I did this correctly...
You are correct. It's a blank white screen.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:58:05am |
re: #112 BignJames
Love the one with the third eye..........Yikes!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:58:49am |
re: #95 Nevergiveup
Oh yeah there is. But in the interest of staying a registered user here I'll leave it the collective imagination of those present.
They are going to have their history changing moment, and it will not be to the benefit of many Muslims. This kind of hate does not simply go away when you suddenly placate the hater. If the Palestinians where handed a state lock, stock and minus any Jews, there would still be some sort of conflict that will eventually boil over and engulf the whole region.
So, they get a state, bereft of any Jews, what do they have. The have a large portion of a population that has been bred, like animals, to do one thing, and one thing only, hate and kill.
What happens? If the killing and hate mentality is the only fulfilling emotion you know, the only emotion that gives you a feeling of accomplishment, then that feeling has to be fed.
Short of an internal self-induced Palestinian genocide, these people, or should I say the whole region (and world), is going to be saddled with flesh and blood, quasi-human killing machines that will demand satisfaction.
Scary.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:59:11am |
re: #121 buzzsawmonkey
It's the new American Currency
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subsailor68 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:59:21am |
re: #119 John Neverbend
You are correct. It's a blank white screen.
No, he did it right. It's a group photo of Obama administration officials who've got a clue. About anything.
;-)
| 125 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:59:36am |
I tried to post a video. What did I do wrong?
| 126 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 11:59:53am |
re: #121 buzzsawmonkey
But it's a really good blank white screen.
My name is Ozymandias! Read my post, ye mighty, and despair!
| 127 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:00:09pm |
Bachmann links Census to 1940s Japanese internment
On Fox News, Bachmann spoke of how Census information helped the government find and detain Japanese people more than six decades ago:
If we look at American history, between 1942 and 1947, the data that was collected by the Census Bureau was handed over to the FBI and other organizations at the request of President Roosevelt, and that’s how the Japanese were rounded up and put into the internment camps,” said Bachmann. “I’m not saying that that’s what the Administration is planning to do, but I am saying that private personal information that was given to the Census Bureau in the 1940s was used against Americans to round them up, in a violation of their constitutional rights, and put the Japanese in internment camps.”
It’s not the first time Bachmann has raised the specter of such detentions: In April, she said she feared the Obama administration was planning “re-education camps for young people, where young people have to go and get trained in a philosophy that the government puts forward and then they have to go to work in some of these politically correct forums.”
/all righty then . . .
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DaddyG Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:01:11pm |
re: #26 Occasional Reader
Big deal, we have the Boy Scouts training little kids to be mindless soldiers.
/LLL kneejerk
I know that was a joke but I've had a few LLLs tell me that.
Our troops last 4 Eagles have built a receiving dock for the local food bank, replentished first aid supplies for a relief agency helping Katrina Victims, built and planted flower beds for a local grade school, and collected toiletries for a local womens shelter.
...all with privately donated time and resources. No government help needed or asked for.
...and any LLL that wants to argue they are a paramillitary organization should know they are really good with .22 rifle and 12 guage shotgun.
:-p
| 130 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:01:56pm |
re: #116 Oh no...Sand People!
Honour Killing playset sold separately...
It includes all of Fulla's brothers, including the one who's under 18 and won't be prosecuted.
| 132 |
Silvergirl Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:02:19pm |
I linked this about a month or so ago. As I said the, if you have 36 minutes to spare, this is worth your time. Well worth it.
After their lessons, some of the boys play cricket on a strip of wasteland close to school. One of them is Shaheed, which means “martyr.” He is 14 and one of 200 pupils at the school, most of whom come from extremely poor families.
The state education system in Pakistan has virtually collapsed, leaving more than 1.5 million children studying at schools like this one. Sitting down to be interviewed, Shaheed explains what Sharia Law has taught him about women.
“The government should forbid women and girls from wandering around outside,” he says calmly. “Just like the government banned plastic bags -- no one uses them any more -- we should do the same with women.”
Shaheed’s teacher defends the school, saying it promotes only peace and harmony, not terrorism, but away from the camera, he tells another story.
When asked who he thinks will win this war, his response is chilling:
“No matter how many Muslims die, we will never run out of sacrificial lambs.”
It also confirms something Shaheed said during his interview: “When I look at suicide bombers younger than me, or my age, I get so inspired by their terrific attacks.”
Leaving Karachi, the reporter tries to make contact with the Taliban leadership in the tribal areas. She wants to talk to the men who are recruiting children from these religious schools for suicide operations.
After lengthy negotiations, she meets with Qari Abdullah, who makes no attempt to hide his face.
“We never used to fight against Pakistan, because we thought the Army were Muslims,” he tells her. “But when they started bombing us, we had to do jihad against them.”
When she asks him about using young children to carry out such attacks, he replies:
“Children are tools to achieve God’s will. And whatever comes your way, you sacrifice it.” He then reveals that he recruits children as young as 5, 6, and 7 years old.
| 133 |
jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:02:24pm |
re: #125 Cannadian Club Akbar
I tried to post a video. What did I do wrong?
Copy the url from little box off to the right where it say URL, not from the address bar.
| 134 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:02:24pm |
/hoo boy . . .
| 135 |
John Neverbend Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:02:30pm |
re: #124 subsailor68
No, he did it right. It's a group photo of Obama administration officials who've got a clue. About anything.
;-)
Sorry. It's my stupid sodding browser.
| 136 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:02:36pm |
re: #127 Killian Bundy
Heh. What a loon.
| 137 |
El Supremo Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:03:44pm |
"When you deal with people who value life in the here after more than life on earth, traditional means of negotiation will not work"....John Bolton
| 138 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:03:44pm |
re: #134 Killian Bundy
ACORN is the new Karl Rove.
| 139 |
BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:03:56pm |
re: #126 Occasional Reader
My name is Ozymandias! Read my post, ye mighty, and despair!
I've no idea what the post was but you're getting an upding for the Ozymandias ref.
/lit whore.
| 140 |
subsailor68 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:03:57pm |
re: #135 John Neverbend
Sorry. It's my stupid sodding browser.
Nah, you're browser's fine. Just couldn't resist a little joke.
;-)
| 141 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:04:20pm |
re: #130 doppelganglander
And you can buy Fulla a dream car, but she's now allowed to drive it.
| 142 |
jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:05:12pm |
re: #132 Silvergirl
That's a good piece by Frontline, it does have the usual anti-American editorial BS, but listening to the Pakistanis is very informative.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:05:58pm |
re: #134 Killian Bundy
The lefties filled out a census form for her and published it on the net. I won't link because is has all her personal info (address, phone, etc).
| 145 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:06:10pm |
| 146 |
Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:06:14pm |
| 147 |
BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:06:15pm |
re: #141 Mad Al-Jaffee
And you can buy Fulla a dream car, but she's now allowed to drive it.
So long as you buy the male family member to sit along side her in the car, yes.
/sold separately.
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:06:37pm |
re: #132 Silvergirl
I linked this about a month or so ago. As I said the, if you have 36 minutes to spare, this is worth your time. Well worth it.
"Satan laughing spreads his wings..." - Black Sabbath, War Pig
| 150 |
Kenneth Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:07:44pm |
re: #128 buzzsawmonkey
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Obamandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away".
| 151 |
Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:07:46pm |
| 152 |
Silvergirl Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:07:48pm |
re: #37 MandyManners
Did you see that one comment after the article?
I love fulla and sell alot of her products.my website willbe up and running march 30th.muslimtoysanddolls.com and i think she is wonderful for Muslim young ladys.She doesn't objectify her body.she is sweet,modest and intelligent.and respectful.horayy for Fulla
| 153 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:07:54pm |
| 154 |
opnion Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:08:32pm |
re: #103 dentate
Is she betrothed to a Jihadist named Osama bin Ken? Does he have his own action figure?
Can you get Fulla a little suicide belt? Small explosion & interlocking pieces scatter.
| 155 |
Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:08:37pm |
re: #147 iceweasel
So long as you buy the male family member to sit along side her in the car, yes.
/sold separately.
Man, they are trying to nickel and dime us to death....I blame the JUUUUICCE!
/
| 157 |
BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:09:01pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
ACORN is the new Karl Rove.
If by that you mean, "favourite scapegoat for the other party, to whom they attribute all sorts of mystical and nefarious powers of influence and persuasion" -- then I'd say, yes.
| 158 |
DaddyG Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:09:04pm |
re: #150 Kenneth
`My name is Obamandias, King of Kings:
Look on my debts, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away".
FIFY both.
| 159 |
Creeping Eruption Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:09:18pm |
re: #154 opnion
Can you get Fulla a little suicide belt? Small explosion & interlocking pieces scatter.
Dipped in rat poison?
| 160 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:09:54pm |
re: #157 iceweasel
They are everywhere and responsible for everything.
| 161 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:10:13pm |
"The Palestinian people reject the Israeli position on a demilitarized state, on the refugees, on Jerusalem, and on the Jewish state," the exiled Mashaal said in Damascus, referring to Israel's demand any future Palestinian state recognize it as a Jewish nation.
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
Well, that's sure encouraging.
| 163 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:11:22pm |
re: #160 Killgore Trout
They are everywhere and responsible for everything.
I thought Ron Paul was? I'm so confused. Who am I suppose to be outraged and seething about? ACORN or Ron Paul? Help me.
| 164 |
Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:11:51pm |
re: #154 opnion
Can you get Fulla a little suicide belt? Small explosion & interlocking pieces scatter.
The mini buzzing prayer rug was a huge hit..5% increase in sales first week.
| 165 |
Danny Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:12:14pm |
"This society is teaching its youngest children that peace is linked to the destruction of non-believers and that violence is an acceptable and even preferred method of self-expression."
This is news?
| 166 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:12:35pm |
re: #161 Nevergiveup
"The Palestinian people reject the Israeli position on a demilitarized state, on the refugees, on Jerusalem, and on the Jewish state," the exiled Mashaal said in Damascus, referring to Israel's demand any future Palestinian state recognize it as a Jewish nation.
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
Well, that's sure encouraging.
Pretty much in line with Obama's position.
| 167 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:13:01pm |
re: #162 DaddyG
ACORN doesn't count...
...they estimate.
You forgot Create,Bloviate , Enumerate,It won't rhyme but they
LIE!
| 168 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:13:17pm |
The internal US debate about whether the Bush Administration had tacit agreements with Israel on construction in the settlements heated up Thursday, with former deputy National Security Advisor Elliott Abrams writing flat out that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was wrong in saying these agreement did not exist.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Abrams, in a piece he wrote that appeared in Thursday's Wall Street Journal, said that "for reasons that remain unclear, the Obama administration has decided to abandon the understandings about settlements reached by the previous administration with the Israeli government. We may be abandoning the deal now, but we cannot rewrite history and make believe it did not exist."
Gee who woulda thought that Hilliary and Obama are liars? Well me.
| 169 |
CyanSnowHawk Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:13:52pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
ACORN is the new Karl Rove.
Does Rove know he left billions in gov't money sitting on the table? I think he's going to be pissed when he finds out.
| 170 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:14:12pm |
re: #143 reloadingisnotahobby
So! Who's ready for GOOD news?
You just saved a lot of money of car insurance?
| 171 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:14:54pm |
re: #24 lawhawk
Increasingly sophisticated? They're indoctrinating these kids from the crib and not exposing them to anything but hatred via a media that they control. As always, it boils down to anti-Semitism and the destruction of Israel.
What it shows is that someone is spending more money post production and providing better production values. The message is just as evil and twisted as the earlier tripe spewed by the jihadis.
And if we do nothing to stop this, we'll either have to live with millions of people who want nothing more than to kill Jews, wall them all off, or [deleted].
| 172 |
capitalist piglet Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:15:15pm |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
ACORN is the new Karl Rove.
Yeah...because there's nothing wrong with ACORN.
/
| 173 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:15:24pm |
re: #168 Nevergiveup
Gee who woulda thought that Hilliary and Obama are liars? Well me.
The are looking for people to help populate the Ministry of Truth.
| 174 |
Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:15:58pm |
OMG! Think of the long term saving to National Healthcare if we could simply get healthy people and kids to blow themselves up.
///
| 175 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:16:08pm |
re: #170 Occasional Reader
Geico's a rip off..................!
Anyone can beat them.......
I know were kidding,just sayin!
| 176 |
Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:16:09pm |
re: #171 Kosh's Shadow
And if we do nothing to stop this, we'll either have to live with millions of people who want nothing more than to kill Jews, wall them all off, or [deleted].
But wait! We just need to learn to understand them! They'll unclench ...right?
/Moonbat off... (head hurting..)
| 177 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:16:28pm |
re: #172 capitalist piglet
Yeah...because there's nothing wrong with ACORN.
/
Hey! I'll have you know that the ACORN staffers are people with convictions.
Specifically, vote fraud convictions.
| 178 |
Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:16:59pm |
re: #170 Occasional Reader
You just saved a lot of money of car insurance?
No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
/
| 179 |
MandyManners Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:17:15pm |
Rove is under investigation in multiple states for voter registration fraud?
| 180 |
jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:17:22pm |
re: #160 Killgore Trout
They are everywhere and responsible for everything.
Yeah, we only put 5 of 'em in jail in WA for fraud, and a dozen other states are investigating them.
| 181 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:17:36pm |
re: #177 Occasional Reader
So then they also "Fraudulate"!
Thanks OR I missed that one!
| 182 |
JustABill Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:18:43pm |
re: #174 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
OMG! Think of the long term saving to National Healthcare if we could simply get healthy people and kids to blow themselves up.
///
I think you got that backwards. You need to get the kids and healthy ones to enroll in your health care program and the sick to blow themselves up...
| 183 |
Kragar Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:20:24pm |
re: #182 JustABill
I think you got that backwards. You need to get the kids and healthy ones to enroll in your health care program and the sick to blow themselves up...
Nope, sick people die sooner. Healthy people just keep living and living. Very tedious.
| 184 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:20:47pm |
More Tea Party lies (via Instapundit)......
Large Democratic Donors Help Shut Down July 4 Atlanta Tea Party
Of course, if you bother to look into it you'll find the real reasons......
July 4th tea party protest canceled
"Gwinnett Place Mall is not public property, but is privately owned," the statement said. "In order to preserve the shopping experience for all guests, it is our standing policy not to permit political protests or rallies on mall property."
| 185 |
Yashmak Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:21:33pm |
re: #180 jcm
Yeah, we only put 5 of 'em in jail in WA for fraud, and a dozen other states are investigating them.
Just ignore them.....
Why ignore them when you can give them billions of dollars instead?
Personally, I think we need a big chipmunk here.
| 186 |
nyc redneck Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:22:35pm |
jihadis know that civilized people are going to have a natural reluctance to shoot a child coming toward them.
these scum think like monsters.
| 187 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:22:41pm |
re: #165 Danny
"This society is teaching its youngest children that peace is linked to the destruction of non-believers and that violence is an acceptable and even preferred method of self-expression."
This is news?
Yes, but on the other hand, muslim wives are far less likely to nag their muslim husbands.
*whack*
| 188 |
Yashmak Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:22:52pm |
re: #182 JustABill
I think you got that backwards. You need to get the kids and healthy ones to enroll in your health care program and the sick to blow themselves up...
I read somewhere that the type of people who were the costliest, in terms of life-long health care, are slim, in-shape people. . . because they live substantially longer.
| 189 |
jcm Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:24:38pm |
re: #188 Yashmak
I read somewhere that the type of people who were the costliest, in terms of life-long health care, are slim, in-shape people. . . because they live substantially longer.
Save health care!
Ban health food and exercise!
| 190 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:24:43pm |
re: #175 reloadingisnotahobby
Geico's a rip off..................!
Anyone can beat them.......
I know were kidding,just sayin!
Even a caveman can do better?
| 191 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:26:15pm |
re: #184 Killgore Trout
More Tea Party lies (via Instapundit)......
Large Democratic Donors Help Shut Down July 4 Atlanta Tea Party
Of course, if you bother to look into it you'll find the real reasons......
July 4th tea party protest canceled
The commenters at PJ Media are totally hyperventilating over nothing. You're right, it is private property. The Gwinnettians should come over to Cobb, where the local GOP is planning a Tea Party in a public park, for which they have a permit. They're serving the best barbecue in town, too!
| 192 |
Kenneth Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:27:15pm |
European diplomatic sources said Thursday that kidnapped Israel Defense Forces soldier Gilad Shalit will be transferred to Egypt in the coming hours or coming days.
This information has yet to be confirmed by Israeli officials.
According to the European sources, Shalit's transfer is the first stage of an agreement between the various Palestinian factions, assisted by Egyptian mediation and done in coordination with the United States and with the support of Syria.
| 195 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:31:12pm |
re: #191 doppelganglander
What's sad is that PJM and Glenn Reynolds know it's not the truth but it whips the idiots into a frenzy. I'm disgusted by the dishonesty.
| 196 |
wrenchwench Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:33:19pm |
re: #192 Kenneth
...with the support of Syria.
Is that why Syria gets a US ambassador all of a sudden?
| 197 |
AZDave Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:35:44pm |
re: #81 kynna
How can people in western countries continue to support this movement? I find it harder and harder to explain. I know many of them are ignorant of this particular aspect, but the leaders of the support efforts can't possibly be. How do they spin it to themselves so they can sleep at night?
Simple. Just blame it on the Jews.
| 198 |
dhg4 Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:40:17pm |
re: #168 Nevergiveup
The internal US debate about whether the Bush Administration had tacit agreements with Israel on construction in the settlements heated up Thursday, with former deputy National Security Advisor Elliott Abrams writing flat out that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was wrong in saying these agreement did not exist.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Abrams, in a piece he wrote that appeared in Thursday's Wall Street Journal, said that "for reasons that remain unclear, the Obama administration has decided to abandon the understandings about settlements reached by the previous administration with the Israeli government. We may be abandoning the deal now, but we cannot rewrite history and make believe it did not exist."
Gee who woulda thought that Hilliary and Obama are liars? Well me.
Abrams wrote a similar op-ed in the WaPo back in April. But earlier this month former Ambassador Kurtzer wrote that since the arrangements were never formalized, there was no real agreement. Understand, it doesn't really matter what Abrams writes or what Israel insists, the administration and their media cheerleaders will ignore that and blow the issue of "settlements" up all out of proportion to its true signficance.
| 199 |
John Neverbend Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:41:01pm |
re: #161 Nevergiveup
"The Palestinian people reject the Israeli position on a demilitarized state, on the refugees, on Jerusalem, and on the Jewish state," the exiled Mashaal said in Damascus, referring to Israel's demand any future Palestinian state recognize it as a Jewish nation.
It's nice to see the burgeoning goodwill of Hamas.
| 200 |
Kenneth Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:43:04pm |
re: #196 wrenchwench
Is that why Syria gets a US ambassador all of a sudden?
maybe. I also read that the announcement of the ambassador was timed to exploit the crisis in Iran. The Iranian's always get paranoid about Syria splitting from them to make nice with the West. The opening to Syria may be a ploy to wide the splits inside the Iranian regime. I'm not sure how that all works, but that's what the State Dept thinks they are doing.
| 201 |
Kenneth Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:43:49pm |
| 202 |
John Neverbend Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:44:41pm |
re: #198 dhg4
Abrams wrote a similar op-ed in the WaPo back in April. But earlier this month former Ambassador Kurtzer wrote that since the arrangements were never formalized, there was no real agreement.
My word isn't my bond.
| 204 |
debutaunt Thu, Jun 25, 2009 12:57:03pm |
| 205 |
Joan Not of Arc Thu, Jun 25, 2009 1:05:41pm |
I would like to hear again how the West is terrible.
How can a society so inculcated with the culture of death survive?
| 206 |
Land Shark Thu, Jun 25, 2009 2:09:41pm |
I think it's interesting to note that according to the story in the linky, these folks are based in "moderate and progressive" Jordan. I wonder how all this Islamic "Goodwill" fits with our Apologizer-In-Chief's "historic" Cairo speech? I guess that these folks haven't heard it or all that "Religion of Peace" crapolla. Or am I being just another impertinent right wing bastard for asking?
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