Iranian Cleric Calls for Execution of Protest Leaders

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Senior Iranian cleric Ahmad Khatami (no relation to Mohammad Khatami, who visited the US in September 2006) demanded today that the leaders of election protests be executed.

Khatami, a member of the powerful Assembly of Experts, said the judiciary should charge the leading “rioters” as “mohareb” or one who wages war against God.

“They should be punished ruthlessly and savagely,” he said. Under Iran’s Islamic law, punishment for people convicted as “mohareb” is execution.

UPDATE at 6/26/09 12:19:03 pm:

Jake Tapper reports that in his Friday sermon, Khatami also blamed the death of protester Neda Agha Soltan on the protesters themselves.

In his Friday prayer sermon, senior cleric Ayatollah Ahmed Khatami called for the government to protest the “leaders of protests, who were supported by the United States and Israel, strongly and with cruelty so it will be a lesson for everyone.”

Khatami also said that 26-year-old protestor Neda Agha Soltan, shot last Saturday and memorialized by protestors as a martyr for their cause, was killed by those protestors.

“The proof and evidence shows that they have done it themselves and have raised propaganda against the system,” Khatami said. “I say hereby that these deceitful media have to know that the ordeal will be over and shame will remain for them.”

UPDATE at 6/26/09 12:21:49 pm:

Iran’s ambassador to Mexico, Mohammad Hassan Ghadiri, blames Neda’s death on the CIA.

GHADIRI (through interpreter): My question is that how is that this Nada was shot from behind and several cameras take that. And this is done in an area where there was no important demonstration. If the CIA wants to kill some people and attribute that to the elements of the government, and then choosing a girl would be something good for them because it would have much higher impact.

Therefore, we believe and we are looking into this to find who the elements were who did this.

BLITZER: Are you seriously accusing the CIA of killing Neda?

GHADIRI (through interpreter): We say that the bullet that was found in her head was not a bullet that you could find in Iran.

These are the bullets that the CIA and terrorist groups use. Of course they warned that there would be a bloodshed in these demonstrations and then they could attribute that to the Islamic Republic. This is part of a common act of CIA in various countries.

BLITZER: Do you really believe that, Mr. Ambassador? You’re a distinguished diplomat representing Iran. This is a very serious accusation that you’re making, that the CIA was responsible for killing this beautiful, young woman.

GHADIRI (through interpreter): I’m not saying that the CIA had done this. There are different groups. Could be intelligence services, could be CIA, could be the terrorists.

However, these are the people who do these things. You could ask Mr. Andreotti, who was an Italian diplomat, whether Gladiators were a secret group related to CIA or not. Now they of course they use better methods. Of course, you’re not going to say that CIA is a sacred organization that hasn’t done anything to other worlds.

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523 comments
1 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:56:32am

Things are getting really ugly over there. Looks like the clergy is trying to crush any reform and probably future reform as well.

2 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:56:58am

Hope and change?

3 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:57:25am

re: #2 kansas

Hope and change?

Nope.

4 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:57:37am

If they strike them down now they will become more powerful then they can possibly imagine.

5 albusteve  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:57:41am

when the shoe is on the other foot, this guy will get the crane for sure

6 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:58:07am

I hate Iranian nazis…

7 Salamantis  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:58:16am

And here we find the ultimate example of clerical hubris: confusing their own stances with Divine fiat. And, not coincidentally, why theocracies are inherently repressive and unjust.

8 albusteve  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:59:32am

re: #7 Salamantis

And here we find the ultimate example of clerical hubris: confusing their own stances with Divine fiat. And, not coincidentally, why theocracies are inherently repressive and unjust.

“waging war against God”….pretty spooky since that can mean anything…how convenient

9 redshirt  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:00:45pm

OK Barack. This is the exact moment to define yourself.
Meddle or just witness?
Support democracy or abandon it?

10 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:00:58pm

Mr. President,

Can we condemn the Iranian regieme now or would that be imposing preconditions?

11 Desert Dog  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:01:10pm

Assembly of Experts, eh? Sounds more the Assembly of Assholes to me.

12 hazzyday  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:01:43pm

Right back at him.

13 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:01:59pm

Dictators live in fear of their populace- that one day they will no longer be feared and the people will do away with them.

The people of Iran are no longer afraid. They can kill the leaders- they will only be creating martyrs. It will backfire on them.

14 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:02:45pm

re: #8 albusteve

“waging war against God”….pretty spooky since that can mean anything…how convenient

But really, though, if you were to wage war against God, don’t you think the chances are that you’re going to lose? And, if that’s the case, can’t we just let God take care of it? Mortals need not intervene?

15 Pianobuff  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:03:37pm

The problem with a theocracy is that the head-of-state is also the chief exorcist.

16 Idle Drifter  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:03:56pm

re: #8 albusteve

“waging war against God”….pretty spooky since that can mean anything…how convenient

How convenient indeed. To be opposed to the will of Mullahs is to be against the will of God.

17 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:04:03pm

re: #8 albusteve

“waging war against God”….pretty spooky since that can mean anything…how convenient


That is precisely why I am a huge fan of the Second Amendment for preserving religious rights while keeping the state from imposing religion.

Given the Constitution was based on the inalienable rights of all men we should be a little more vociferous about insisting on its principles for the Iranian people.

Got that President Barack “the Constitution is a living document” Obama?

18 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:04:36pm
Iran’s legislative body, the Guardian Council, said it found no major violations in the June 12 presidential poll, which it described as the “healthiest” since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, but said 10 percent of ballot boxes would be recounted.

Guardian Council ? Sounds about right.

Very healthy debate over there.

/spit

19 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:05:08pm

Somebody please convince the Iranian thugovernment that the people designing and building their nuclear program are the leaders of the rebels.

20 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:05:58pm

Moha”reb”?
The South is rising again in Islam?

21 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:06:26pm

And letting people like that to even be remotely involved with Nuclear anything is madness

22 JustABill  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:07:05pm

re: #17 DaddyG

That is precisely why I am a huge fan of the Second Amendment for preserving religious rights while keeping the state from imposing religion.

Given the Constitution was based on the inalienable rights of all men we should be a little more vociferous about insisting on its principles for the Iranian people.

Got that President Barack “the Constitution is a living document” Obama?

I am going to assume you really know the difference between the first and second amendment and didn’t just stumble on to something profound. Hence the up-ding.

23 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:07:33pm

Opposing the Islamic state is a sin.

But of course.

24 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:07:37pm

re: #7 Salamantis

And here we find the ultimate example of clerical hubris: confusing their own stances with Divine fiat. And, not coincidentally, why theocracies are inherently repressive and unjust.

Do those run any better than the Italian Fiats?

25 JarHeadLifer  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:07:55pm

The religion of peace is apparently also the government of peace.

26 hazzyday  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:07:56pm

re: #17 DaddyG

Yet the state does impose it’s religious substitution called “The social justice movement”. It even has an AMWAY like leadership enabling program to spread it quicker in the grassroots. Someday your property taxes are likely to have a racial component to them to make up for white power abuse.

27 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:08:00pm

re: #21 Nevergiveup

Funny how they’re entitled to nuclear power while the 0bama admin actively is trying to kill off all things fossil-fuel & nuclear for his own citicizens…..

28 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:08:44pm
Senior Iranian cleric Ahmad Khatami demanded today that the leaders of election protests be executed.

He has forgotten how supply and demand work in a revolution. The old regime demands executions, and the new one supplies them.

29 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:08:46pm

re: #22 JustABill

I am going to assume you really know the difference between the first and second amendment and didn’t just stumble on to something profound. Hence the up-ding.

Crap - I did mean First Amendment of the Bill of Rights… But neither one works well without the other.

30 Dianna  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:09:21pm

re: #17 DaddyG

That is precisely why I am a huge fan of the Second Amendment for preserving religious rights while keeping the state from imposing religion.

Given the Constitution was based on the inalienable rights of all men we should be a little more vociferous about insisting on its principles for the Iranian people.

Got that President Barack “the Constitution is a living document” Obama?

Second Amendment?

31 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:09:32pm

re: #24 CyanSnowHawk

Do those run any better than the Italian Fiats?

Chrysler if I know?

32 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:09:48pm

re: #24 CyanSnowHawk

Do those run any better than the Italian Fiats?

Supposedly, but you’ll never see one.

33 nyc redneck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:09:54pm

does o get it yet?
what more atrocities will he need to “witness” to rethink his take on these fcking
jihadi killers and their islamic regime?

34 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:10:03pm

re: #31 Nevergiveup

Well, we can’t a-Ford any more mistakes along these lines.

35 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:10:12pm

As the thread was opening, I was figuring it was the Crocodile.

SHEESH, there’s ANOTHER one!

36 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:10:35pm

re: #27 Fenway_Nation

Funny how they’re entitled to nuclear power while the 0bama admin actively is trying to kill off all things fossil-fuel & nuclear for his own citicizens…..

Well… gosh… maybe when we’re an islamic republic, we’ll be entitled to it also.

37 alegrias  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:10:39pm

President Obama at today’s joint press conference with Angela Merkel only asked that Iran’s terrorist leaders apologize to their own people, not actually “keep score” the Chicago way.

38 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:10:48pm

re: #30 Dianna

Second Amendment?

Yeah - justabill already pointed that out. But if the Iranians were protected by the Second Amendment the net effect on the Mullahs would be similar.

39 Kragar  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:10:49pm

I suppose this falls under vigorous debate

40 opnion  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:03pm

‘……wages war against god.” Tough to defend against when the mullahs define the crimes.
It reminds of of the scene in 300 when the number 2 Spartan was rallying the troops against the invading Persians. He pointed out that one reason to oppose them was to defeat superstition. Sounds right even today.

41 pat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:04pm

re: #27 Fenway_Nation

That would be because Obama is willing to give up in the face of foreign opposition, but is in America’s face constantly.

42 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:05pm

re: #30 Dianna

The second amendment allows you to participate in the first amendment.

43 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:05pm

re: #25 JarHeadLifer

The religion of peace is apparently also the government of peace.

And for the same reason. They just kill anyone who gets in the way.

44 Salamantis  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:11pm

re: #24 CyanSnowHawk

Do those run any better than the Italian Fiats?

Depends. They run about the same as Mussolini-era Fiats…and one would devoutly hope that the Iranin Divine fiat era ends the same way.

45 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:12pm

re: #21 Nevergiveup

And letting people like that to even be remotely involved with Nuclear anything is madness

If they had nukes, I wouldn’t put it past them to nuke a demonstration and then blame Israel.
They’d probably be able to get the UN to condemn Israel, even if there was no evidence of a missile launch.

46 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:13pm

re: #27 Fenway_Nation

Funny how they’re entitled to nuclear power while the 0bama admin actively is trying to kill off all things fossil-fuel & nuclear for his own citicizens…..

maybe Obama knows something we don’t? Nah, he is just an as….ole.

47 JustABill  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:30pm

re: #29 DaddyG

Crap - I did mean First Amendment of the Bill of Rights… But neither one works well without the other.

Well, since your honest, I’ll let the karma stand… Do you think Iran would be any different now, had the citizens been well armed?

48 FrogMarch  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:34pm

Iranian cleric Ahmad Khatami - you are a coward.
The world would be a better place if you went “missing.”

49 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:46pm

This is why democracy (and feminism) are the antithesis of islam (and theocracy).

There is no free speech, freedom of conscience, freedom of person. All belongs to men claiming God as their authority. Democracy and individual rights are in direct opposition to that authority in that it resides with the people.

50 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:51pm

re: #36 J.D.


Didn’t the president say we were the biggest mulsim nation on earth?

//or will be when ACORN gets through with the 2010 census

51 Pianobuff  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:54pm

re: #33 nyc redneck

does o get it yet?
what more atrocities will he need to “witness” to rethink his take on these fcking
jihadi killers and their islamic regime?

I haven’t read the transcript, but I understand that Obama’s statements in the joint press conference with Merckel were more “McCain-like” once again.

Why doesn’t O just call John early?… we’d save a lot of time that way.

52 Dianna  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:11:57pm

Break time while spreadsheets print.

53 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:12:22pm

Obama appealed to the Islamic world by emphasizing “justice” instead of freedom and liberty.

Dare to oppose the will of Allah as declared by Mohammed’s successors and this is justice in the their view.

54 Salamantis  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:12:50pm

re: #43 Dar ul Harb

And for the same reason. They just kill anyone who gets in the way.

Which is why the cover of Immanuel Kant’s book Perpetual Peace features a gravestone. Because perpetual peace is never found this side of the cemetary.

55 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:13:08pm

re: #53 jcm

Obama appealed to the Islamic world by emphasizing “justice” instead of freedom and liberty.

Dare to oppose the will of Allah as declared by Mohammed’s successors and this is justice in the their view.

kinda like cement shoes in lake Michigan?

56 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:13:42pm

re: #50 Fenway_Nation

Didn’t the president say we were the biggest mulsim nation on earth?

//or will be when ACORN gets through with the 2010 census

I think he said we were the biggest Mueslix nation on Earth, but personally, I prefer Cheerios.

57 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:14:22pm

re: #53 jcm

Obama appealed to the Islamic world by emphasizing “justice” instead of freedom and liberty.

Dare to oppose the will of Allah as declared by Mohammed’s successors and this is justice in the their view.

The Muslims are still fighting over who are the real successors to Mohammed (Pork and Bacon Upon Him). That’s what the Shi’ite - Sunni “debate” is about.

58 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:14:44pm

re: #56 CyanSnowHawk

I think he said we were the biggest Mueslix nation on Earth, but personally, I prefer Cheerios.

Cerealist!

59 Buck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:14:49pm

re: #25 JarHeadLifer

The religion of peace is apparently also the government of peace.

You have to admit that after you kill all opposition, it gets much more peaceful…

60 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:15:15pm

Report: Gaddafi showered Condoleezza Rice with gifts
US government report says Libya’s leader did not hide his admiration for then-secretary of state during her historic visit to Tripoli last year, calling her ‘Leeza’ rather than her nickname ‘Condi’

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Once ya go condi, ya never go back?

61 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:15:30pm

re: #57 Kosh’s Shadow

The Muslims are still fighting over who are the real successors to Mohammed (Pork and Bacon Upon Him). That’s what the Shi’ite - Sunni “debate” is about.

And a “vigorous debate” it is.

62 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:15:45pm

re: #47 JustABill

Well, since your honest, I’ll let the karma stand… Do you think Iran would be any different now, had the citizens been well armed?

I don’t think the Basij (sp?) would be as bold and fewer citizens would be kidnapped and tortured by hired thugs.

However neither the first or second amendment are stand alone concepts. A populace needs to be free to speak and defend their right to speak. We could probably have a whole week of discussions on how the entire bill of rights is synergistic when it comes to preserving liberty and justice.

I admire how you and Dianna used my misstep to illustrate a much more profound concept.

63 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:15:54pm

re: #59 Buck

You have to admit that after you kill all opposition, it gets much more peaceful…

Which is exactly what Iran means by “peaceful nuclear program”.

64 opnion  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:16:28pm

re: #53 jcm

Obama appealed to the Islamic world by emphasizing “justice” instead of freedom and liberty.

Dare to oppose the will of Allah as declared by Mohammed’s successors and this is justice in the their view.

At the University of Cairo, he mentioned Mohammad & Jesus in the same breath & said, “Peace be upon them.” That of course is not something that would be said in the Christian world regarding Jesus.

65 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:16:37pm

re: #50 Fenway_Nation

Didn’t the president say we were the biggest mulsim nation on earth?

//or will be when ACORN gets through with the 2010 census

Not funny.
But true!

66 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:16:44pm

re: #58 jcm

Cerealist!

I see you’re going against the grain again.

67 WinterCat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:16:58pm

Is this what we can call Islam’s tolerance?

68 Salamantis  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:16:59pm

re: #60 Nevergiveup

Report: Gaddafi showered Condoleezza Rice with gifts
US government report says Libya’s leader did not hide his admiration for then-secretary of state during her historic visit to Tripoli last year, calling her ‘Leeza’ rather than her nickname ‘Condi’

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Once ya go condi, ya never go back?

Moammar, get over it; you don’t stand a snowflake’s chance in Hades of ‘movin’ on up’ to Leeza…;~)

69 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:17:58pm

re: #67 WinterCat

Is this what we can call Islam’s tolerance?

Easy to see why they’re known as the religion of peace, huh?

70 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:18:03pm

World’s tallest skyscraper to be built in Saudi Arabia

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

It will be built not far from Jeddah’s international airport

Well why make it difficult on the terrorists?

71 JarHeadLifer  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:18:20pm

re: #59 Buck

You have to admit that after you kill all opposition, it gets much more peaceful…

Absolutely! This is why are prefer the term “World Freedom” over “World Peace”. One man’s “peace” can very well be another man’s oppression. Freedom is unambiguous and absolute. Peace is relative. There’s a whole lot of peace in North Korea, not too much freedom however.

72 Idle Drifter  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:18:32pm

re: #53 jcm

Obama appealed to the Islamic world by emphasizing “justice” instead of freedom and liberty.

Dare to oppose the will of Allah as declared by Mohammed’s successors and this is justice in the their view.

Justice is very subjective when practiced by holier-than-thou ideologues and zealots alike with all those pleasant -isms attached to every judgment.

73 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:18:37pm

re: #66 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I see you’re going against the grain again.

I know it chaffs, but someone has to keep grinding.

74 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:19:47pm

re: #71 JarHeadLifer

Absolutely! This is why are prefer the term “World Freedom” over “World Peace”. One man’s “peace” can very well be another man’s oppression. Freedom is unambiguous and absolute. Peace is relative. There’s a whole lot of peace in North Korea, not too much freedom however.

Visualize World Freedom.

Might make a good bumper sticker if you didn’t think some moonbat would key your car over it.

75 revobob  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:20:09pm

re: #73 jcm

I know it chaffs, but someone has to keep grinding.

Husky fella like him shoulda made Kernel!

76 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:20:11pm

re: #73 jcm

I know it chaffs, but someone has to keep grinding.

You guys tare me up.

77 Buck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:20:12pm

re: #71 JarHeadLifer

Absolutely! This is why are prefer the term “World Freedom” over “World Peace”. One man’s “peace” can very well be another man’s oppression. Freedom is unambiguous and absolute. Peace is relative. There’s a whole lot of peace in North Korea, not too much freedom however.

That was my point, of course. When I run into the left, and all the Peace this and Peace that…. I always ask them about freedom.

78 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:20:21pm

re: #72 Idle Drifter

Justice is very subjective when practiced by holier-than-thou ideologues and zealots alike with all those pleasant -isms attached to every judgment.

When Obama says “justice” I hear the Alinsky definition.

79 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:20:26pm

re: #70 Nevergiveup

World’s tallest skyscraper to be built in Saudi Arabia

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

It will be built not far from Jeddah’s international airport

Well why make it difficult on the terrorists?

From camels to phallic symbols!

80 SFGoth  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:20:46pm

The regime will succeed with the blessing of Barack Ochamberlain. Peace for our time! Wonder what will be on the piece of paper he waves (probably it’s a white flag).

81 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:21:01pm

re: #74 CyanSnowHawk

Visualize World Freedom.

Might make a good bumper sticker if you didn’t think some moonbat would key your car over it.

Why would they key your car. To a liberal “world freedom” means a world with out the USA. They would love that.

82 revobob  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:21:07pm

re: #76 DaddyG

You guys tare me up.


Someimes I only weigh in on the pun threads…

83 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:21:10pm

re: #68 Salamantis

re: #60 Nevergiveup

Moammar, get over it; you don’t stand a snowflake’s chance in Hades Tripoli of ‘movin’ on up’ to Leeza…;~)

FTFY

/Also would’ve accepted ‘You don’t stand a Bulgarian nurse’s chance of getting a fair trial in Libya’

84 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:21:12pm

re: #73 jcm

I know it chaffs, but someone has to keep grinding.

At least you’re not run-of-the-mill.

85 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:21:16pm

re: #79 pre-Boomer Marine brat

From camels to phallic symbols!

Camel cigarettes, two for the price of one.

86 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:21:16pm

re: #79 pre-Boomer Marine brat

From camels to phallic symbols!

Think they maybe overcompensating for something?

87 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:21:31pm

re: #70 Nevergiveup

World’s tallest skyscraper to be built in Saudi Arabia

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

It will be built not far from Jeddah’s international airport

Well why make it difficult on the terrorists?

Think they’re compensating for something ?

hat tip : Shrek

88 Idle Drifter  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:21:40pm

re: #78 jcm

When Obama says “justice” I hear the Alinsky definition.

Alinsky was a very Socialist person.

89 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:21:43pm

re: #9 redshirt

OK Barack. This is the exact moment to define yourself.
Meddle or just witness?
Support democracy or abandon it?

“Present”

90 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:21:55pm

re: #87 SasquatchOnSteroids

GMTA!

91 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:22:08pm

re: #75 revobob

Husky fella like him shoulda made Kernel!

I think he earned a tassel for having a good ear.

92 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:22:12pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

If they strike them down now they will become more powerful then they can possibly imagine.

I am afraid they will simply become dead, and Obama will met with Ammadinnawhatever.

93 opnion  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:22:13pm

re: #72 Idle Drifter

Justice is very subjective when practiced by holier-than-thou ideologues and zealots alike with all those pleasant -isms attached to every judgment.

If you recall after 9/11 Bush was prepared to launch “Operation Infinite Justice.” He got push back from Muslims, since they believe only Allah can provide Infinite Justice, hence “Operation Enduring Freedom.”
I hated to see that.

94 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:22:15pm

re: #70 Nevergiveup

This is new to me.
United Against Nuclear Iran at the end of the comments about the article you posted.

95 revobob  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:22:23pm

re: #84 pre-Boomer Marine brat

At least you’re not run-of-the-mill.


Yup- the puns are in full flour now!

96 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:22:36pm

re: #90 BlueCanuck

Nice

97 ConservativeAtheist  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:22:38pm

Well, it’s a good thing Obama didn’t come out with early, strong statements of support for the Iranian protesters, since that would have just given the regime an excuse to crack down. Oh, wait…

98 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:22:55pm

re: #81 Nevergiveup

Why would they key your car. To a liberal “world freedom” means a world with out the USA. They would love that.

They’ll eventually figure it out and then it’s “Uh oh, better get Maaco!”

99 WinterCat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:23:23pm

re: #71 JarHeadLifer

Absolutely! This is why are prefer the term “World Freedom” over “World Peace”. One man’s “peace” can very well be another man’s oppression. Freedom is unambiguous and absolute. Peace is relative. There’s a whole lot of peace in North Korea, not too much freedom however.

This is exactly why I said yesterday that Obama’s use of the word justice rather than freedom when talking to the Iranians was a problem in my view. Islam would love to live in peace with infidels. That would translate to our submission rather our being pesky freedom lovers. No thanks.

100 debutaunt  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:23:24pm

re: #52 Dianna

Break time while spreadsheets print.

Excellent.

101 revobob  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:24:08pm

re: #91 jcm

I think he earned a tassel for having a good ear.


Would that be like a Good Cornduct Medal?

102 John Neverbend  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:24:18pm

Khatami is either a Borg, “resistance is futile”, or a Vogon, “resistance is useless”. Probably the former, as there’s nothing funny about him.

103 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:24:30pm
Iran’s ambassador to Mexico, Mohammad Hassan Ghadiri, blames Neda’s death on the CIA.

It’s obviously Bush’s fault.

/why not?

/sarc, really

104 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:24:48pm

re: #92 kansas

I am afraid they will simply become dead, and Obama will met with Ammadinnawhatever.

And Obama can take his place next to Rabbit Bait in Liberty’s hall of shame.

105 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:25:06pm

Starting to look like without the Second Amendment all the rest are pretty much just words on paper.

106 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:25:19pm

re: #103 Ward Cleaver

It’s obviously Bush’s fault.

/why not?

/sarc, really

I’m voting for not enough fiber in their diet.

107 MandyManners  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:25:21pm

How clueless is Blizter that he would be incredulous that those thugs would blame the CIA?

108 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:25:22pm

re: #91 jcm

I think he earned a tassel for having a good ear.

But can he twirl those tassels?

/moob thread now

109 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:25:29pm

re: #100 debutaunt

Excellent.

*smacks forehead*
Took me few seconds of clueless staring to get that!

/senility strikes!

110 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:25:30pm

re: #104 jcm

And Obama can take his place next to Rabbit Bait in Liberty’s hall of shame.

The sooner the better as far as I am concerned.

111 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:25:37pm

re: #93 opnion

If you recall after 9/11 Bush was prepared to launch “Operation Infinite Justice.” He got push back from Muslims, since they believe only Allah can provide Infinite Justice, hence “Operation Enduring Freedom.”
I hated to see that.

Infinite Justice was a stupid name for that operation. Should have called it Operation Can of Whoop-ass!

112 revobob  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:25:46pm

re: #105 kansas

Starting to look like without the Second Amendment all the rest are pretty much just words on paper.


Can I get an AMEN!

113 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:25:47pm

re: #101 revobob

Would that be like a Good Cornduct Medal?

With peanut clusters!

114 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:25:49pm

re: #106 MrSilverDragon

I’m voting for not enough fiber in their diet.

That’s why they’re full of shit.

115 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:26:18pm

re: #113 jcm

With peanut pecan clusters!

Even better!

116 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:26:19pm

re: #114 Ward Cleaver

That’s why they’re full of shit.

Bingo.

117 quickjustice  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:26:29pm

Liquidate the opposition? Joe Stalin couldn’t say it any better!

118 revobob  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:26:37pm

re: #109 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*smacks forehead*
Took me few seconds of clueless staring to get that!

/senility strikes!


Too many Lotus blossoms?

119 Idle Drifter  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:26:40pm

re: #93 opnion

If you recall after 9/11 Bush was prepared to launch “Operation Infinite Justice.” He got push back from Muslims, since they believe only Allah can provide Infinite Justice, hence “Operation Enduring Freedom.”
I hated to see that.

Too bad they didn’t call the operation “For Great justice!”
Seriously though, “Enduring Freedom” still had nice ring to it.

120 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:26:50pm

re: #105 kansas

Starting to look like without the Second Amendment all the rest are pretty much just words on paper.

Ding……

121 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:26:55pm

re: #102 John Neverbend

Khatami is either a Borg, “resistance is futile”, or a Vogon, “resistance is useless”. Probably the former, as there’s nothing funny about him.

Baghdad Bob is a superconductor.

122 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:26:56pm

re: #107 MandyManners

How clueless is Blizter that he would be incredulous that those thugs would blame the CIA?

Blizter.
I love it!

123 opnion  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:27:40pm

re: #111 CyanSnowHawk

Infinite Justice was a stupid name for that operation. Should have called it Operation Can of Whoop-ass!

Now that would have had panache & conveyed the right message.
“Wher’s your Mohammad noooow? Where’s your Allah noooow?”

124 John Neverbend  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:27:46pm

re: #107 MandyManners

How clueless is Blizter that he would be incredulous that those thugs would blame the CIA?

Not for nothing does HWSNBN refer to him as the department store dummy.

125 revobob  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:28:15pm

re: #121 haakondahl

Baghdad Bob is a superconductor.


Cool!

126 KenJen  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:28:28pm

Is it too soon for MJ jokes? I just heard a funny one but don’t want to offend.

127 formercorpsman  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:29:21pm

re: #47 JustABill

For what it is worth, we have a definite answer for the fact they were not.

128 opnion  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:30:00pm

re: #119 Idle Drifter

Too bad they didn’t call the operation “For Great justice!”
Seriously though, “Enduring Freedom” still had nice ring to it.

I don’t mind the name, it’s the reason for the change.
I guess at that moment I just did not care about Muslim sensibilities.

129 debutaunt  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:30:06pm

re: #126 KenJen

Is it too soon for MJ jokes? I just heard a funny one but don’t want to offend.

Can you tell it in pig latin so the offendable will have to work at it?

130 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:30:19pm

re: #103 Ward Cleaver

It’s obviously Bush’s fault.

/why not?

/sarc, really

Because Bush is not a Joooo?

131 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:30:37pm

I want a bumper sticker that says “FREE TIBET — ARM TIBETANS”

132 opnion  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:30:37pm

re: #126 KenJen

Is it too soon for MJ jokes? I just heard a funny one but don’t want to offend.

Whisper it.

133 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:30:50pm

re: #73 jcm

I know it chaffs, but someone has to keep grinding.

That’s corny.

134 Diamond Bullet  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:30:51pm
Under Iran’s Islamic law, punishment for people convicted as “mohareb” is execution.

I know Iran gets a lot of bad press, but you have to admire their penal system. It is one of the least complicated in the world. Translated from Farsi, it is:

Everything = execution.

Brilliant.

135 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:31:00pm

re: #118 revobob

Too many Lotus blossoms?

I’ve taken Notes of that!

136 yochanan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:31:03pm

this is the real face of islmo fascism i hope the ‘zero’ enjoys shaking the bloody hand of the iranian short shit.

137 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:31:04pm

re: #126 KenJen

Does it involve Legos?

138 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:31:24pm

good to see the mullahs are unclenching their fists /

139 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:31:25pm

re: #107 MandyManners

How clueless is Blizter that he would be incredulous that those thugs would blame the CIA?

ya mean cheese Blitzer?

140 LGoPs  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:31:26pm

re: #105 kansas

Starting to look like without the Second Amendment all the rest are pretty much just words on paper.

I think it may be been Rush who years ago said, and I paraphrase, ‘the reason there is a 2nd Amendment is in case the government tries to take away the 1st Amendment’…….

141 KenJen  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:31:35pm

re: #137 Fenway_Nation

Does it involve Legos?

Yes. Ha Ha. Cracked me up.

142 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:31:35pm

re: #126 KenJen

Is it too soon for MJ jokes? I just heard a funny one but don’t want to offend.

Just don’t cut off your nose to spite your face. /

143 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:31:55pm

It must be disconcerting for the Iranian public to see that they have been utterly bumped off the news cycle by yet another dead white guy.

144 JustABill  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:32:01pm

re: #93 opnion

If you recall after 9/11 Bush was prepared to launch “Operation Infinite Justice.” He got push back from Muslims, since they believe only Allah can provide Infinite Justice, hence “Operation Enduring Freedom.”
I hated to see that.

IMHO the “Infinite Justice” bit was just piling on by dems and the press. Bush screwed up with his first choice something “Crusade”, which was exactly the wrong thing to call it. The last thing we wanted to do was make it a Christian vs Muslim thing.

He got rightly knocked about badly for that and the press was smelling blood when the “Infinite Justice” came around and Bush was in no position to argue after his initial mistake…

145 Eowyn2  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:32:01pm

re: #9 redshirt

OK Barack. This is the exact moment to define yourself.
Meddle or just witness?
Support democracy or abandon it?

its 3 am.

146 John Neverbend  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:32:10pm

re: #126 KenJen

Is it too soon for MJ jokes? I just heard a funny one but don’t want to offend.

Tell it not in Gath, publish it not in the streets of Ashkelon.

147 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:32:25pm

re: #137 Fenway_Nation

Does it involve Legos?

I heard that one- laughed my ass off

148 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:32:51pm

re: #147 Nevergiveup
Now he has to share.

149 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:32:59pm

re: #138 _RememberTonyC

good to see the mullahs are unclenching their fists /

That’s for the pistol grip on the AK.

150 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:33:19pm

re: #126 KenJen

Is it too soon for MJ jokes? I just heard a funny one but don’t want to offend.

It won’t offend me.

151 Eowyn2  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:33:21pm

re: #126 KenJen

Is it too soon for MJ jokes? I just heard a funny one but don’t want to offend.

too soon
He was given such talent but he lost touch with reality.

152 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:33:28pm

re: #147 Nevergiveup

Somebody just texted me that like 20 minutes ago….

153 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:33:43pm
“Of course, you’re not going to say that CIA is a sacred organization that hasn’t done anything to other worlds.”

Damn… they’re onto the Stargate program!

154 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:33:51pm

re: #151 Eowyn2

too soon
He was given such talent but he lost touch with reality.

That’s being generous.

155 opnion  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:33:53pm

re: #136 yochanan

this is the real face of islmo fascism i hope the ‘zero’ enjoys shaking the bloody hand of the iranian short shit.

I doubt that BHO will have any reservations. Two unclenched fists & all is forgiven. Barack may even through in another apology for colonialism in the Islamic world, even though America had no colonies there.

156 yochanan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:33:57pm

wonder why i am supposed to change my opinion of someone who gave me the creeps when he was alive?

a rich person who is crazy = ecentric
a poor person is just crazy

157 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:33:58pm

re: #109 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*smacks forehead*
Took me few seconds of clueless staring to get that!

/senility strikes!

I presume you had to count “1-2-3”.

158 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:34:25pm

re: #126 KenJen

Is it too soon for MJ jokes? I just heard a funny one but don’t want to offend.


I just went looking for it and there is now an entire new website.

159 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:34:40pm

re: #157 haakondahl

I presume you had to count “1-2-3”.

He excels at it.

160 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:34:43pm

re: #156 yochanan

wonder why i am supposed to change my opinion of someone who gave me the creeps when he was alive?

a rich person who is crazy = ecentric
a poor person is just crazy

the poor person is probably a relative also. Sigh.

161 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:35:25pm

re: #153 Occasional Reader

Damn… they’re onto the Stargate program!

That’s okay, just as long as SHADO is safe.

162 kulhwch  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:35:27pm
GHADIRI (through interpreter his ass): We say that the bullet that was found in her head was not a bullet that you could find in Iran.

… found in her head?

Hard to figure out how she was shot through the heart by a bullet that entered her head, especially when there was no sign of a wound in her head.  I swear, this is just like last year when the news story came out about the impressive bullets that had been shot at Islamomorons (you know, the miraculous ones that had never been fired?) …

}:)     [Congenital idiocy seems to have reached a new high there … ]

163 yochanan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:35:28pm

re: #143 haakondahl

It must be disconcerting for the Iranian public to see that they have been utterly bumped off the news cycle by yet another dead white guy.

middleaged woman

164 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:35:54pm

re: #156 yochanan

wonder why i am supposed to change my opinion of someone who gave me the creeps when he was alive?

a rich person who is crazy = ecentric
a poor person is just crazy

And a rich kid fiddler is dead.

165 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:35:59pm

re: #159 BlueCanuck

He excels at it.

What? The Lotus position?

166 debutaunt  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:36:14pm

re: #158 J.D.

I just went looking for it and there is now an entire new website.

Thanks for the hint!

167 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:36:35pm

re: #161 CyanSnowHawk

That’s okay, just as long as SHADO is safe.

That was one freaky-deaky t.v. show. I only saw a few episodes, back in the day, as a young lad.

168 opnion  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:36:48pm

re: #144 JustABill

IMHO the “Infinite Justice” bit was just piling on by dems and the press. Bush screwed up with his first choice something “Crusade”, which was exactly the wrong thing to call it. The last thing we wanted to do was make it a Christian vs Muslim thing.

He got rightly knocked about badly for that and the press was smelling blood when the “Infinite Justice” came around and Bush was in no position to argue after his initial mistake…

I guess on the heels of 9/11, I didn’t care what we called it or who got offended. We are not feeling the love now, even with Overseas Contingency Operations.

169 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:36:52pm

re: #131 haakondahl

I want a bumper sticker that says “FREE TIBET — ARM TIBETANS”

Go to Cafepress.com, and you can have one.

They’ll make just about anything you want on a bumper sticker or T-shirt.

I have a bumper sticker on my car from them that says “Obama spent my change”

170 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:37:01pm

re: #166 debutaunt

Thanks for the hint!

Welcome!
I just couldn’t bring myself to link to it.

171 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:37:10pm

re: #126 KenJen

Is it too soon for MJ jokes? I just heard a funny one but don’t want to offend.

Wait till they find his doctor who apparently skated out leaving behind his BMW. I think that would only be polite.

172 ConservativeAtheist  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:37:20pm

re: #105 kansas

Starting to look like without the Second Amendment all the rest are pretty much just words on paper.

Peaceful protest only works when those in power have moral qualms with brutally crushing their own people. Think US civil rights protests or South Africa’s eventual elimination of apartheid vs. China’s Tiananmen Square or what we see happening in Iran today.

173 KenJen  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:37:20pm

re: #158 J.D.

I just went looking for it and there is now an entire new website.

Oh nose!

174 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:37:51pm

re: #157 haakondahl

I presume you had to count “1-2-3”.

I’ve never been able to find a [PRINT] button on my Bomar 4-function calculator. It’s very frustrating.

175 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:38:14pm
“I say hereby that these deceitful media have to know that the ordeal will be over and shame will remain for them.”

Someone set us up the bomb!

176 Idle Drifter  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:38:55pm

re: #128 opnion

I don’t mind the name, it’s the reason for the change.
I guess at that moment I just did not care about Muslim sensibilities.

We were walking on egg shells after 9-11-02 because of all the hyperbole of the citizenry taking out their anger on Muslims. The reality was we wanted the murdering bastards brought to justice or for the most part have a close encounter with a JADAM or hellfire missile.

177 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:39:00pm

re: #158 J.D.

I just went looking for it and there is now an entire new website.


Yup - I found it too. I’m laughing my arse off and ashamed at the same time.

178 Eowyn2  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:39:13pm

re: #73 jcm

I know it chaffs, but someone has to keep grinding.


keep pecking or you’ll be in a bushel of trouble

179 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:39:42pm

re: #173 KenJen

Oh nose!


Yes indeedy!

180 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:39:51pm

So the CIA shot that woman to try to make it look like the Iranian security forces killed a protestor. And instead of using regular ammo, they used their super secret, super duper special agent government issued only ammo? I bet they’re slapping their foreheads over that mistake!

181 Eowyn2  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:40:09pm

re: #154 Nevergiveup

That’s being generous.

Its just to creepy to contemplate a full knowledge of reality was involved.

182 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:40:11pm

re: #174 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I’ve never been able to find a [PRINT] button on my Bomar 4-function calculator. It’s very frustrating.

Well, if it’s any consolation, a whole generation of power users can no longer find Print in Excel 2008, may the fart-sniffers at MicroSoft burn in 7734.

183 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:40:33pm

Since our President is such a believer in the UN, why has he not instructed his UN Ambassador to start lining up support for a resolution against these bloodsucking islamonazi monsters? I mean, what the f*ck! Do SOMETHING here!

184 LGoPs  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:40:34pm

re: #180 Mad Al-Jaffee

So the CIA shot that woman to try to make it look like the Iranian security forces killed a protestor. And instead of using regular ammo, they used their super secret, super duper special agent government issued only ammo? I bet they’re slapping their foreheads over that mistake!

Thay’re still mullahing that over………

185 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:40:43pm

re: #175 Occasional Reader

Someone set us up the bomb!

Release every Zig. For Great Justice!

186 LGoPs  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:40:47pm

re: #184 LGoPs

Thay’re still mullahing that over………

They’re…..PIMF

187 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:40:51pm

Iranians have long believed that someone else was pulling the strings. The mullahs are capitalizing on this when they claim that the CIA was behind the demonstrations or that Neda was murdered by her fellow protesters.

It’s all an ongoing symptom of the cognitive dissonance in the Middle East and the Islamic culture whereby responsibility for one’s actions is absolved by the mere utterance of two magic phrases - It was da Joos or the it was the USA (tweaked to include the UK).

So, they use these excuses to butcher their own people, and brand those who are standing up against the rise of Ahmadinejad’s totalitarian regime as enemies of Islam - laying claim to a religious obligation to wipe out the protesters - jihad. Make no doubt that was the intention of Khatami today, and his willing followers are more than willing to spill the blood of their fellow Iranians in the pursuit of ideological purity and the fulfillment of prophesies.

188 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:41:00pm

re: #177 DaddyG

Yup - I found it too. I’m laughing my arse off and ashamed at the same time.


I know!
It surely didn’t take long to get that up!

189 poteen  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:41:21pm

re: #151 Eowyn2

too soon
He was given such talent but he lost touch with reality.

He also lost $400+ million dollars.
/I have a new goal.

190 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:41:58pm

re: #183 _RememberTonyC

What’s the point. All UN resolutions are like toothless, declawed tigers. About all they are good for is backup paper in the out house.

191 subsailor68  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:42:37pm

Khatami, a member of the powerful Assembly of Experts, said the judiciary should charge the leading “rioters” as “mohareb” or one who wages war against God.

“They should be punished ruthlessly and savagely,” he said. Under Iran’s Islamic law, punishment for people convicted as “mohareb” is execution.

First, you need to rename your group. It’s actually the Assembly of Assholes.

Second, the brave people you have so brutally suppressed aren’t waging war against God. They’re waging war against you and your ilk. And, BTW, I wish them all the luck in the world in that struggle.

And if my country’s administration is reluctant to speak, I’m not. You, your friends in the Assembly, the mullahs in general, the Revolutionary Guard, the Basijj, your joke of a President, and the foreign thugs you’ve brought in to terrorize, brutalize, maim, and murder your own people…all of you are a stain on humanity, a blight on mankind, and have no place in a civilized world.

192 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:42:37pm

re: #183 _RememberTonyC

Since our President is such a believer in the UN, why has he not instructed his UN Ambassador to start lining up support for a resolution against these bloodsucking islamonazi monsters? I mean, what the f*ck! Do SOMETHING here!

Don’t worry the international democracies on on the job:

The Quartet of Middle East peace negotiators will urge Israel on Friday to freeze all settlement activity, including “natural growth,” a European
diplomat said.

[Link: www.haaretz.com…]

Oh Iran? sorry I just saw the I. never mind

193 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:42:41pm

re: #180 Mad Al-Jaffee

So the CIA shot that woman to try to make it look like the Iranian security forces killed a protestor. And instead of using regular ammo, they used their super secret, super duper special agent government issued only ammo? I bet they’re slapping their foreheads over that mistake!

Reminiscent of the way the Soviets rolled up our infiltration—CIA logos on our guys’ cuff links.

194 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:43:02pm

re: #182 haakondahl

Well, if it’s any consolation, a whole generation of power users can no longer find Print in Excel 2008, may the fart-sniffers at MicroSoft burn in 7734.

Sooner or later, they will abacus up into the Stone Age.

195 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:43:22pm

re: #167 Occasional Reader

That was one freaky-deaky t.v. show. I only saw a few episodes, back in the day, as a young lad.

It was one of my favorites. I got the whole series on DVD a few years ago. Gerry Anderson Sci-Fi rules!

196 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:43:29pm

re: #187 lawhawk

Except they would have been smarter to blame Israel. Maybe Obama would have sided with them?

197 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:44:18pm

Have these people forgotten who’s in charge of the CIA these days?

Somehow, I can’t imagine Leon Panetta authorizing any sort of covert assassination operation anywhere. Certainly not in Iran.

He’s part of the same Clintonista crowd who implemented the infamous “wall of separation” between intelligence and law enforcement, after all.

The current “engage Iranian diplomats via hot dogs” plans sounds more up his alley…

198 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:44:30pm

re: #194 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sooner or later, they will abacus up into the Stone Age.

I will slide right in there.

199 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:44:42pm

re: #182 haakondahl

Well, if it’s any consolation, a whole generation of power users can no longer find Print in Excel 2008, may the fart-sniffers at MicroSoft burn in 7734.

My boss has a new laptop with ‘08 on it.

He’s always calling me in to find shit. I had to finally find the “use classic menus” option.

It’s like buying a new car and finding the pedals steer and the hand controls are for acceleration and braking.

200 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:45:02pm

re: #190 BlueCanuck

What’s the point. All UN resolutions are like toothless, declawed tigers. About all they are good for is backup paper in the out house.

it’s largely symbolic, for sure. but it does have some PR value. It gives the forces of good something they can put in their diplomatic tool belt. And if even just a couple of arab/muslim nations sign on to an anti-mullah resolution, it can’t hurt.

201 LSD  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:45:06pm
GHADIRI (through interpreter): We say that the bullet that was found in her head was not a bullet that you could find in Iran.

Has anyone brought up the fact that Neda was NOT SHOT IN THE HEAD, BUT IN THE CHEST?

202 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:45:25pm

re: #187 lawhawk

Iranians have long believed that someone else was pulling the strings. The mullahs are capitalizing on this when they claim that the CIA was behind the demonstrations or that Neda was murdered by her fellow protesters.

It’s all an ongoing symptom of the cognitive dissonance in the Middle East and the Islamic culture whereby responsibility for one’s actions is absolved by the mere utterance of two magic phrases - It was da Joos or the it was the USA (tweaked to include the UK).

So, they use these excuses to butcher their own people, and brand those who are standing up against the rise of Ahmadinejad’s totalitarian regime as enemies of Islam - laying claim to a religious obligation to wipe out the protesters - jihad. Make no doubt that was the intention of Khatami today, and his willing followers are more than willing to spill the blood of their fellow Iranians in the pursuit of ideological purity and the fulfillment of prophesies.

And Ahmadinejad wants the clock to strike “Twelve”.

/so to speak

203 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:45:31pm

re: #126 KenJen

Is it too soon for MJ jokes? I just heard a funny one but don’t want to offend.

Tell it, and let Charles be the judge?

204 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:45:44pm

re: #199 jcm

My boss has a new laptop with ‘08 on it.

He’s always calling me in to find shit. I had to finally find the “use classic menus” option.

It’s like buying a new car and finding the pedals steer and the hand controls are for acceleration and braking.

Where is that?

205 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:45:58pm

Well….maybe some more planes full of Revolutionary Guards will fall out of the sky or find their way into the nearest convenient mountainside…..

206 opnion  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:46:03pm

lre: #176 Idle Drifter

We were walking on egg shells after 9-11-02 because of all the hyperbole of the citizenry taking out their anger on Muslims. The reality was we wanted the murdering bastards brought to justice or for the most part have a close encounter with a JADAM or hellfire missile.

Bush did a real good job tamping down anger against domestic Muslims.
However we were going to war in the aftermath of losing 3,000 people in a despicable, unprovoked attack.
He needed to rally the troops & call the operation anything he wanted to.

207 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:46:12pm

re: #191 subsailor68

Khatami, a member of the powerful Assembly of Experts, said the judiciary should charge the leading “rioters” as “mohareb” or one who wages war against God.

“They should be punished ruthlessly and savagely,” he said. Under Iran’s Islamic law, punishment for people convicted as “mohareb” is execution.

First, you need to rename your group. It’s actually the Assembly of Assholes.

Second, the brave people you have so brutally suppressed aren’t waging war against God. They’re waging war against you and your ilk. And, BTW, I wish them all the luck in the world in that struggle.

And if my country’s administration is reluctant to speak, I’m not. You, your friends in the Assembly, the mullahs in general, the Revolutionary Guard, the Basijj, your joke of a President, and the foreign thugs you’ve brought in to terrorize, brutalize, maim, and murder your own people…all of you are a stain on humanity, a blight on mankind, and have no place in a civilized world.

Assembly of Dogs Fathers.
Would be a better Iranian insult.
Pedar e sag, father of a dog. Mortal insult.

208 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:46:21pm

re: #198 haakondahl

I will slide right in there.

You rule!

209 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:46:23pm

re: #131 haakondahl

I want a bumper sticker that says “FREE TIBET — ARM TIBETANS”

I often wonder what people with the “FREE TIBET” think that’s about. Do they expect that bumper stickers on cars in America will induce the Chinese government to release their claim on Tibet? I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t countenance a war with China over Tibet? Maybe Barack’s pretty words will do the trick?

210 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:46:36pm

re: #203 Ward Cleaver

Tell it, and let Charles be the judge?

Judge?

211 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:46:46pm

re: #203 Ward Cleaver

WARD!

212 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:47:00pm

re: #201 LSD

Has anyone brought up the fact that Neda was NOT SHOT IN THE HEAD, BUT IN THE CHEST?

Same manufacture as the Kennedy magic bullet!

It all fits!

//////////

213 kulhwch  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:47:01pm

re: #201 LSD

Has anyone brought up the fact that Neda was NOT SHOT IN THE HEAD, BUT IN THE CHEST?

I did in #162, but so far, no one has noticed …

}:)     [ … except you, of course.  Bless you.]

214 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:47:09pm

re: #203 Ward Cleaver

Tell it, and let Charles be the judge?

I would say not. Follow his lead. Publish jokes about the recently departed at your own site.

.02

215 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:47:24pm

re: #199 jcm

You SHOULD have made him keep that EtchASketch !

216 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:47:26pm

re: #183 _RememberTonyC

Since our President is such a believer in the UN, why has he not instructed his UN Ambassador to start lining up support for a resolution against these bloodsucking islamonazi monsters? !

In your heart you know the answer to that. Don’t you?

217 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:48:27pm

re: #209 eschew_obfuscation

I often wonder what people with the “FREE TIBET” think that’s about. Do they expect that bumper stickers on cars in America will induce the Chinese government to release their claim on Tibet? I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t countenance a war with China over Tibet? Maybe Barack’s pretty words will do the trick?

Most of them probably couldn’t find Tibet on a map, anyway.

218 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:48:54pm

re: #207 jcm

Assembly of Dogs Fathers.
Would be a better Iranian insult.
Pedar e sag, father of a dog. Mortal insult.

Is that sort of like “Sumbitch!”

219 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:48:55pm

re: #205 Fenway_Nation

Well….maybe some more planes full of Revolutionary Guards will fall out of the sky or find their way into the nearest convenient mountainside…..

In all the unrest, a few things exploding wouldn’t be out of the ordinary.

Just because a B-2 was out of it’s hanger for 28 hours is simple a coincidence.

220 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:49:03pm

re: #216 kansas

In your heart you know the answer to that. Don’t you?

just trying to offer some feedback to the leader of the free world. why is it that he never takes my advice?

221 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:49:09pm

re: #211 J.D.


WARD!

J.D.!

222 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:49:11pm

re: #209 eschew_obfuscation

I often wonder what people with the “FREE TIBET” think that’s about. Do they expect that bumper stickers on cars in America will induce the Chinese government to release their claim on Tibet? I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t countenance a war with China over Tibet? Maybe Barack’s pretty words will do the trick?

Do you dispute the value of these magic beans?

223 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:49:19pm

re: #212 jcm

Same manufacture as the Kennedy magic bullet!

It all fits!

//////////

Has anyone seen Arlen Specter lately?

224 KenJen  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:49:28pm

re: #203 Ward Cleaver

Tell it, and let Charles be the judge?

I decided against it. Not a good idea.

225 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:49:31pm

Too much time spent on the Internet is causing increasing friction between couples in Ireland, a marriage counselling service said Friday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com…]

Any cute red heads here today?

226 hazzyday  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:50:05pm

re: #187 lawhawk

All the more reason to have a healthy democracy.

227 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:50:19pm

re: #223 lobo91

Has anyone seen Arlen Specter lately?

Damn!
I forgot all about him!

The schmuck.

228 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:50:22pm

re: #220 _RememberTonyC

just trying to offer some feedback to the leader of the free world. why is it that he never takes my advice?

Well he probably hates the Celtics to start with?

229 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:50:26pm

Hmm….go back about 3½ years and you get Iranian security personnel attacking foreign journalists at the scene of another Iranian aircraft falling out of the sky (and crashing into an apartment building full of Iranian Air Force personnel).

230 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:50:27pm

re: #209 eschew_obfuscation

I often wonder what people with the “FREE TIBET” think that’s about. Do they expect that bumper stickers on cars in America will induce the Chinese government to release their claim on Tibet? I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t countenance a war with China over Tibet? Maybe Barack’s pretty words will do the trick?

You see, I wouldn’t trust free Tibet, something must be wrong if they’re just giving it away… now if they were saying Tibet $2.99@lb, they might have something.

/I think I just pissed off a WHOLE lot of people.

231 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:50:35pm

re: #214 haakondahl

I would say not. Follow his lead. Publish jokes about the recently departed at your own site.

.02

Okay, I’ll have to look for it tonight. I don’t listen to any drivetime radio, so I don’t hear any of those type of jokes, unless someone emails them to me.

232 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:52:04pm

re: #204 haakondahl

Where is that?

Cripes, I don’t remember took me long enough to find it.

I had to use help to find it.

233 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:52:17pm

re: #225 Nevergiveup

Too much time spent on the Internet is causing increasing friction between couples in Ireland, a marriage counselling service said Friday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com…]

Any cute red heads here today?

This sounds like a win-win situation. Even the inevitable fUSSR Brides will benefit.

234 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:52:32pm

re: #222 haakondahl

Do you dispute the value of these magic beans?

Heh! Indeed I do…

235 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:52:50pm

re: #223 lobo91

Has anyone seen Arlen Specter lately?

Wasn’t he out fomenting discord in Zahedan?

236 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:52:52pm

re: #209 eschew_obfuscation

I often wonder what people with the “FREE TIBET” think that’s about. Do they expect that bumper stickers on cars in America will induce the Chinese government to release their claim on Tibet? I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t countenance a war with China over Tibet? Maybe Barack’s pretty words will do the trick?

They’re the ones that thought their END RACISM - STOP APARTHEID bumper stickers turned the tide in that struggle. They believe that if they are annoying enough, they will get their way, just like they did when they were children.

237 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:53:36pm

re: #225 Nevergiveup

In the comments…

Yes, the internet is bad for people in general. Too much information causes people to think too much. Everyone should just go back to reading the newspapers and let the brilliant editors and reporters tell us what to think.


Go Marv!

238 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:53:59pm

re: #209 eschew_obfuscation

I often wonder what people with the “FREE TIBET” think that’s about. Do they expect that bumper stickers on cars in America will induce the Chinese government to release their claim on Tibet? I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t countenance a war with China over Tibet? Maybe Barack’s pretty words will do the trick?

The word Free on the back of Mr Lefty’s car is an oxymoron

239 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:54:04pm

It’s an old game. “Look what you made me do.”

240 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:54:26pm

re: #237 J.D.

In the comments…


Go Marv!

Marv Albert, or Marv Levy?

/huh?

241 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:54:46pm

My personal feelings are that the oh-so-pious clergy over there have had thirty years of power and wealth.

Nobody gives that up happily. Nobody.

242 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:54:47pm

re: #231 Ward Cleaver

Ward…google michael jackson legos.

243 [deleted]  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:54:52pm
244 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:55:01pm

re: #230 MrSilverDragon

You see, I wouldn’t trust free Tibet, something must be wrong if they’re just giving it away… now if they were saying Tibet $2.99@lb, they might have something.

/I think I just pissed off a WHOLE lot of people.

LOL! That’d make a great bumper sticker.

We have a lefty group where I live called Nebraskans for Peace ….. I have a bumper sticker that says Nebraskans for War just to tweak them….. same font and everything.

245 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:55:26pm

re: #236 CyanSnowHawk

They’re the ones that thought their END RACISM - STOP APARTHEID bumper stickers turned the tide in that struggle. They believe that if they are annoying enough, they will get their way, just like they did when they were children.

The same people who think that sticking flowers in the barrels of rifles will result in something more than a pleasing fragrance on their powder burns.

246 JustABill  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:56:00pm

re: #225 Nevergiveup

Too much time spent on the Internet is causing increasing friction between couples in Ireland, a marriage counselling service said Friday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com…]

Any cute red heads here today?

Hmm, I haven’t seen Irish Rose around lately…/

247 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:56:01pm

re: #228 Nevergiveup

Well he probably hates the Celtics to start with?

anti Irish?

248 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:56:17pm

re: #240 Ward Cleaver

Marv Albert, or Marv Levy?

/huh?

MarvH

Conservative, Christian, gun owner, hard worker, pro life, gas guzzler, taxed to death, feared by the left.


He needs to find us!

249 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:56:41pm

re: #238 SasquatchOnSteroids

The word Free on the back of Mr Lefty’s car is an oxymoron

Could be a new model of car…

The Volvo Oxymoron

250 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:56:44pm

re: #238 SasquatchOnSteroids

The word Free on the back of Mr Lefty’s car is an oxymoron

I was follow a moonbat this morning, “War is Terrorism” “Violence never solved anything” “Coexist”

I so wanted to stop them and ask them if they’d say that to Neda’s family.

251 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:56:51pm

re: #217 lobo91

My brother came up with what he calls the most obnoxious bumper sticker ever: FUCK TIBET.

252 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:57:31pm

re: #243 taxfreekiller

How bad is this Democrat Cap and Trade bull shit.

Greenpeace is opposed to it.

[Link:

253 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:58:09pm

re: #247 _RememberTonyC

anti Irish?

How many people from Chicago are Celtic Fans?

254 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:58:14pm

re: #251 Mad Al-Jaffee

My brother came up with what he calls the most obnoxious bumper sticker ever: FUCK TIBET.

My favorite insult sticker……..

NUKE ALL THE UNBORN GAY WHALES FOR JESUS

255 WinterCat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:58:34pm

Is the fact that an Iranian diplomat is accusing the USA CIA under the Obama administration of killing Neda to stir up trouble going to give Obama a reason to reconsider his extended hand? Or, will he launch a full investigation into CIA actions over the past month?

256 SixDegrees  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:58:36pm

Off Topic - Insane, arrogant bitch pleads guilty to bribery.

God, I hope her husband is tangled up in this, too.

DETROIT — City Councilmember Monica Conyers, the wife of powerful Democratic Congressman John Conyers, pleaded guilty Friday to accepting cash bribes in exchange for supporting a sludge contract with a Houston company.

Conyers, 44, was charged with one count of conspiracy to commit bribery in connection with accepting two payments from a Synagro Technologies official in late 2007, including one in a McDonald’s parking lot.

Detroit corruption - now with more sludge!

257 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:58:36pm

re: #245 haakondahl

The same people who think that sticking flowers in the barrels of rifles will result in something more than a pleasing fragrance on their powder burns.

Have you seen Watchmen? There’s a scene in the opening credits that sort of parodies the famous image of the flowers in the rifle barrels.

258 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:58:45pm

re: #251 Mad Al-Jaffee

My brother came up with what he calls the most obnoxious bumper sticker ever: FUCK TIBET.

Too Late.

259 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:59:23pm

re: #252 lobo91

Not sure what happened there…

As I was saying, the reason Greenpeace opposes the cap and trade bill is that it doesn’t go far enough to destroy our economy. They want everyon living in mud huts.

260 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:59:26pm

re: #255 WinterCat

Is the fact that an Iranian diplomat is accusing the USA CIA under the Obama administration of killing Neda to stir up trouble going to give Obama a reason to reconsider his extended hand? Or, will he launch a full investigation into CIA actions over the past month?

What will Blinky Nancy Pelosi say?

261 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:59:30pm

re: #254 jcm

My favorite insult sticker……..

NUKE ALL THE UNBORN GAY WHALES FOR JESUS

Heh….. it’s been about 17 years since I first saw that one! My favorite too.

262 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:59:43pm

re: #257 Mad Al-Jaffee

Have you seen Watchmen? There’s a scene in the opening credits that sort of parodies the famous image of the flowers in the rifle barrels.

Nope. Not showing, uh, where I am.

263 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:59:48pm

re: #30 Dianna

That is the amendment that is the guarantee of the balance of the Constitution, nobody should forget it.

264 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:59:49pm

re: #253 Nevergiveup

How many people from Chicago are Celtic Fans?

they’re just jealous of our 17 World Championships. and the bulls also pissed me off this year. they played the Celtics on St Patty’s Day in Chicago and the BULLS wore green uniforms.

265 JustABill  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 12:59:50pm

re: #253 Nevergiveup

How many people from Chicago are Celtic Fans?

I just noticed that Chicago has both the Bulls and the Bears. I wonder if that is some kind of Chicago Mercintile Exchange joke…

266 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:00:15pm

re: #256 SixDegrees


*sniff sniff*
What’s that smell? Smells to nice to be sludge……

I know! It’s schadenfreude!

267 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:00:22pm

re: #255 WinterCat

He will blame it on Bush.

268 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:00:24pm

re: #259 lobo91

Not sure what happened there…

As I was saying, the reason Greenpeace opposes the cap and trade bill is that it doesn’t go far enough to destroy our economy. They want everyon living in mud huts.

Well who would be in my hut?

269 subsailor68  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:00:31pm

OT, but perhaps a slight bit of good news?

The Climate Change Climate Change

The number of skeptics is swelling everywhere.

I love this part:

It turns out Al Gore and the United Nations (with an assist from the media), did a little too vociferous a job smearing anyone who disagreed with them as “deniers.” The backlash has brought the scientific debate roaring back to life in Australia, Europe, Japan and even, if less reported, the U.S.

How’s them apples Al?

270 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:00:37pm

re: #260 J.D.

What will Blinky Nancy Pelosi say?

“Well, you know how they lie…”

271 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:00:39pm

re: #262 haakondahl

The dvd will be out in about a month.

272 WinterCat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:00:55pm

re: #260 J.D.

What will Blinky Nancy Pelosi say?

That she, “knows nothing. Nothing.” Channeling Sgt Schultz.
/

273 yochanan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:01:07pm

re: #155 opnion

I doubt that BHO will have any reservations. Two unclenched fists & all is forgiven. Barack may even through in another apology for colonialism in the Islamic world, even though America had no colonies there.

we never had any colonies in Africa and the closest thing to one was Liberia which was founded by black freedman.

274 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:01:36pm

re: #266 Fenway_Nation

*sniff sniff*
What’s that smell? Smells to nice to be sludge……

I know! It’s schadenfreude!

“Schadengofuckyourself”

275 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:01:47pm

re: #70 Nevergiveup

World’s tallest skyscraper to be built in Saudi Arabia

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

It will be built not far from Jeddah’s international airport

Well why make it difficult on the terrorists?

Being built by Saudi business mogul Prince al-Waleed bin Talal.
Isn’t this the guy Rudy told where to stick his money?

276 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:01:53pm

re: #269 subsailor68

even, if less reported, the U.S.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!
It’s a sekert.

277 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:01:55pm

re: #259 lobo91

But digging up mud releases CO2 from the soil. Further the rotting plant matter in it releases methane which is even worse. Spoiled brat syndrome party.

278 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:02:06pm

re: #275 Son of the Black Dog

Being built by Saudi business mogul Prince al-Waleed bin Talal.
Isn’t this the guy Rudy told where to stick his money?

Exactly

279 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:02:21pm

re: #265 JustABill

I just noticed that Chicago has both the Bulls and the Bears. I wonder if that is some kind of Chicago Mercintile Exchange joke…

Huh!

280 jorline  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:02:27pm

When are the Troffers going to chime in with the good Ambassador?

They all know BushCo and Carlyle Group were behind it.
//

281 J.D.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:02:38pm

re: #275 Son of the Black Dog

Bingo.

282 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:02:42pm

re: #220 _RememberTonyC

just trying to offer some feedback to the leader of the free world. why is it that he never takes my advice?

You are trying to get me to say something that will get me in trouble. As nothing I can say would not get me in trouble.

283 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:02:44pm

re: #199 jcm

My boss has a new laptop with ‘08 on it.

He’s always calling me in to find shit. I had to finally find the “use classic menus” option.

It’s like buying a new car and finding the pedals steer and the hand controls are for acceleration and braking.

Actually, it is 2007.
And the “ribbon” that all the reviewers were gushing about, hides many of the frequently used commands, and takes up a lot of the window, especially on a laptop. Try to find the “format paragraph” menu item in Word. (It’s that little thing in the lower right corner of the “format” box).

But if they were real power users, they’d just use control-p and not bother with the menu.

Or you could just save money - use OpenOffice.

284 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:02:46pm

re: #268 Nevergiveup

Well who would be in my hut?

Salamantis.

285 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:02:57pm

re: #261 eschew_obfuscation

Heh….. it’s been about 17 years since I first saw that one! My favorite too.

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen one.

286 JustABill  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:03:00pm

re: #261 eschew_obfuscation

Heh….. it’s been about 17 years since I first saw that one! My favorite too.

A couple years ago, there was a bumper sticker going around South Carolina that said “Kids, you can’t beat them”. They were being given away to stop child abuse. A friend of mine used some strategically placed white out to make his read “Kids, you can eat em”.

287 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:03:05pm

re: #275 Son of the Black Dog

Being built by Saudi business mogul Prince al-Waleed bin Talal.
Isn’t this the guy Rudy told where to stick his money?

State of the art training facility?

288 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:03:16pm

re: #277 Shr_Nfr

But digging up mud releases CO2 from the soil. Further the rotting plant matter in it releases methane which is even worse. Spoiled brat syndrome party.

Blaster know pig shit.

289 nyc redneck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:03:33pm

re: #225 Nevergiveup

Too much time spent on the Internet is causing increasing friction between couples in Ireland, a marriage counselling service said Friday.

[Link: www.breitbart.com…]

Any cute red heads here today?

oh no, you found me out.
;)

290 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:04:09pm

re: #286 JustABill

I have a “Mean People Kick Ass” sticker on my harmonica case.

291 yochanan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:04:22pm

re: #244 eschew_obfuscation

how many members do they have 3?

292 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:04:48pm

re: #283 Kosh’s Shadow

Actually, it is 2007.
And the “ribbon” that all the reviewers were gushing about, hides many of the frequently used commands, and takes up a lot of the window, especially on a laptop. Try to find the “format paragraph” menu item in Word. (It’s that little thing in the lower right corner of the “format” box).

But if they were real power users, they’d just use control-p and not bother with the menu.

Or you could just save money - use OpenOffice.

Open office, and keyboard centric….
Boss is mouse centric.

293 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:04:49pm

re: #282 kansas

You are trying to get me to say something that will get me in trouble. As nothing I can say would not get me in trouble.

sometimes you can say a lot by saying nothing. lemme see if I can read your mind … the leader of the free world is something he has denied being. Am I close?

294 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:05:14pm

re: #290 Mad Al-Jaffee

I have a “Mean People Kick Ass” sticker on my harmonica case.

Must be one big harmonica for a bumper sticker to fit on the case/

295 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:05:20pm

re: #256 SixDegrees

Off Topic - Insane, arrogant bitch pleads guilty to bribery.

God, I hope her husband is tangled up in this, too.

DETROIT — City Councilmember Monica Conyers, the wife of powerful Democratic Congressman John Conyers, pleaded guilty Friday to accepting cash bribes in exchange for supporting a sludge contract with a Houston company.

Conyers, 44, was charged with one count of conspiracy to commit bribery in connection with accepting two payments from a Synagro Technologies official in late 2007, including one in a McDonald’s parking lot.

Detroit corruption - now with more sludge!

It appears he is not wrapped up in it, but they’ll keep looking for sure - If the wife can do this (in her position of power) for a lousy $8000, the husband easily can too. For a lousy $8000! moroon!

296 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:05:28pm

re: #289 nyc redneck

oh no, you found me out.
;)


You had me at ” oh no”

297 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:05:40pm

re: #283 Kosh’s Shadow

Actually, it is 2007.
And the “ribbon” that all the reviewers were gushing about, hides many of the frequently used commands, and takes up a lot of the window, especially on a laptop. Try to find the “format paragraph” menu item in Word. (It’s that little thing in the lower right corner of the “format” box).

But if they were real power users, they’d just use control-p and not bother with the menu.

Or you could just save money - use OpenOffice.

I get more strange looks telling people (who have asked for help) to CTRL+C this here, then CTRL+V that there, and ALT+F,A when it’s done. People get very defensive about their little mouse habits, and so I walk away. Either you want my help or you don’t.

298 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:05:42pm

re: #265 JustABill

I just noticed that Chicago has both the Bulls and the Bears. I wonder if that is some kind of Chicago Mercintile Exchange joke…

That is exactly where it came from.

299 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:05:50pm

re: #275 Son of the Black Dog

Being built paid for by Saudi business mogul Prince al-Waleed bin Talal.

The Saudis don’t build anything. They write checks.

300 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:05:58pm

re: #286 JustABill

A couple years ago, there was a bumper sticker going around South Carolina that said “Kids, you can’t beat them”. They were being given away to stop child abuse. A friend of mine used some strategically placed white out to make his read “Kids, you can eat em”.

Oh man…..that’s great!

I love to do stuff like that with overly serious slogans

301 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:06:13pm

re: #269 subsailor68

For a yuck watch Barrie Harrop’s comments. He has a florid case of NPD like Obama. He has founded more failed business than you can imagine. The last one was a photo kiosk chain in Australia that had (gasp) 10 employees and even did a job of (amazing) 1,200 digital prints for somebody. He is from Australia and appears to be a trust fund kiddie from his cv. In his own mind he is negotiating billion dollar deals. Only thing I have seen on the wsj forums is that he did a $35AU mn desalinization plant for somebody.

302 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:06:18pm

re: #290 Mad Al-Jaffee

I have a “Mean People Kick Ass” sticker on my harmonica case.

Prius down the road from me
It has a “COEXIST” and a “Mean People Suck” sticker.

303 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:06:21pm

re: #294 Creeping Eruption

Must be one big harmonica for a bumper sticker to fit on the case/

It’s a case that holds 13 harmonicas. I have a few stickers on it.

304 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:07:16pm

re: #286 JustABill

A couple years ago, there was a bumper sticker going around South Carolina that said “Kids, you can’t beat them”. They were being given away to stop child abuse. A friend of mine used some strategically placed white out to make his read “Kids, you can eat em”.

I like the IN-N-OUT BURGER bumper stickers that were modified by cutting out the B and R from BURGER.
IN-N-OUT
_URGE_

305 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:07:31pm

re: #303 Mad Al-Jaffee

It’s a case that holds 13 harmonicas. I have a few stickers on it.

I figured it was either that or you were a professional circus clown and had a giant harmonica.

306 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:07:37pm

re: #283 Kosh’s Shadow

I have never understood why business pays up for that pos known as M$ Office. The average user has a hard time doing a simple spreadsheet.

307 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:07:37pm

re: #294 Creeping Eruption

Must be one big harmonica for a bumper sticker to fit on the case/

Pssst! It’s the “HarmonicaZyte”

308 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:07:42pm

re: #292 jcm

Boss is mouse centric.

( *grit teeth, hunch over, trying to resist* … *SHRIEK* )

You just ratted on him!

/*running like hell*

309 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:07:48pm

I’ve been thinking about makeing one up that says “Fight Bumper Sticker Addiction”

310 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:08:04pm

re: #305 Creeping Eruption

I figured it was either that or you were a professional circus clown and had a giant harmonica.

How do you know it’s not both? :)

311 subsailor68  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:08:06pm

re: #301 Shr_Nfr

For a yuck watch Barrie Harrop’s comments. He has a florid case of NPD like Obama. He has founded more failed business than you can imagine. The last one was a photo kiosk chain in Australia that had (gasp) 10 employees and even did a job of (amazing) 1,200 digital prints for somebody. He is from Australia and appears to be a trust fund kiddie from his cv. In his own mind he is negotiating billion dollar deals. Only thing I have seen on the wsj forums is that he did a $35AU mn desalinization plant for somebody.

Cool! Thanks, I’ll check it out.

312 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:08:22pm

re: #305 Creeping Eruption

I figured it was either that or you were a professional circus clown and had a giant harmonica.


is that a giant harmonica … or are you just happy to see me?

/ ducks

313 yochanan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:08:22pm

re: #295 unrealizedviewpoint

no shit

314 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:08:43pm

re: #302 jcm

Prius down the road from me
It has a “COEXIST” and a “Mean People Suck” sticker.

Well, you can put those together pretty well, as COEXIST means SUCK MEAN PEOPLE.

315 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:08:45pm

re: #261 eschew_obfuscation

Heh….. it’s been about 17 years since I first saw that one! My favorite too.

My favorite one is still:

VISUALIZE USING YOUR TURN SIGNAL

316 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:08:54pm

re: #309 DaddyG

I’ve been thinking about makeing one up that says “Fight Bumper Sticker Addiction”

I was always partial to the one that says, “This bumper sticker is in Spanish when you’re not looking at it.”

317 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:09:23pm

re: #269 subsailor68

OT, but perhaps a slight bit of good news?

The Climate Change Climate Change

The number of skeptics is swelling everywhere.

I love this part:

It turns out Al Gore and the United Nations (with an assist from the media), did a little too vociferous a job smearing anyone who disagreed with them as “deniers.” The backlash has brought the scientific debate roaring back to life in Australia, Europe, Japan and even, if less reported, the U.S.

How’s them apples Al?

Too late, they’re voting Cap-N-Tax now. Oh well…this used to be such a nice place…

318 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:09:26pm

re: #302 jcm

Prius down the road from me
It has a “COEXIST” and a “Mean People Suck” sticker.

I’ve noticed a few “Peacemonger” ones lately, saw another one that said “Lemmings Unite” with that friggin’ O seal.
Shake your head.

319 yochanan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:09:27pm

re: #302 jcm

liberals swallow

320 jamgarr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:10:09pm

I’ve always liked:
Yes, This Is My Truck
And No, You Can’t Borrow It

321 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:10:18pm

My friend has a “Cat: the other white meat” bumper sticker.

I like that one.

322 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:10:59pm

re: #318 SasquatchOnSteroids

I’ve noticed a few “Peacemonger” ones lately, saw another one that said “Lemmings Unite” with that friggin’ O seal.
Shake your head.

Should clarify, also had an Obama/Biden sticker.

324 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:11:32pm

I actually already posted this:

Somebody had about four or five on his car. (The only stickers on my van are on the inside, next to the carseats, which is why I no longer let the dentist’s offices give the kids stickers.)

Anyway, this person had one reading “Pure Evil” right below the one that said “Obama”

Placement. It’s all about placement, and I don’t think he/she had thought it through. (Kind of like their voting habits.)

325 yochanan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:12:03pm

re: #318 SasquatchOnSteroids

i saw a button unicorns for obama i really wanted it.

326 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:12:06pm

re: #321 DaddyG

My friend has a “Cat: the other white meat” bumper sticker.

I like that one.


Hey Daddy G: Seen in Southern Utah, on a truck.

Yes, I am LDS.
Yes, this is my truck.
No, I will not help you move.

327 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:12:10pm

re: #308 pre-Boomer Marine brat

( *grit teeth, hunch over, trying to resist* … *SHRIEK* )

You just ratted on him!

/*running like hell*

328 subsailor68  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:12:12pm

re: #317 unrealizedviewpoint

Too late, they’re voting Cap-N-Tax now. Oh well…this used to be such a nice place…

On the earlier thread a couple of posters were discussing a National Review guy saying Pelosi might pull this for right now, as it doesn’t appear they have the votes on the Senate side. Never could find any confirmation of that.. Have you heard anything?

329 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:12:14pm

gotta run, folks. have a great weekend!

330 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:12:19pm

re: #312 _RememberTonyC
For all you know, I could be one of these guys:

Image: ohb.jpg

Image: cover-300.jpg

Image: ross-3.jpg

331 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:12:28pm

re: #314 haakondahl

Well, you can put those together pretty well, as COEXIST means SUCK MEAN PEOPLE.

A few weeks back I saw an enormous F350 Super Duty with an EARTH FIRST bumper sticker on it. As I got closer, I saw that it said in small letters beneath that “We’ll drill the other planets later.”

332 nyc redneck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:12:44pm

all i have on my truck is SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.

333 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:12:48pm

re: #320 jamgarr

I’ve always liked:
Yes, This Is My Truck
And No, You Can’t Borrow It

Or the popular variation, And No, I Won’t Help You Move.

334 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:12:59pm

re: #325 yochanan

i saw a button unicorns for obama i really wanted it.

screw the button, I want the wonderhorse.

335 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:13:10pm

re: #327 jcm

LOL!

336 SixDegrees  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:13:19pm

re: #295 unrealizedviewpoint

It appears he is not wrapped up in it, but they’ll keep looking for sure - If the wife can do this (in her position of power) for a lousy $8000, the husband easily can too. For a lousy $8000! moroon!

Conyers the wife may very well have put the final nail in Detroit’s coffin by opposing renovations at Cobo Hall, site of the Auto Show, a huge money maker for the city that is now seeking another venue because Cobo is antiquated and not big enough. Her reasoning? The proposed renovation involved partnering with surrounding county governments, which - in her small, hate-filled mind - meant Detroit was “giving away” it’s “assets” to whitey.

No, I’m not kidding.

Her grandstanding on other important issues has been every bit as odious over the years, but this one may have cost Detroit it’s only significant international convention. Not surprisingly, venues across the nation are drooling over hosting this major event, and the auto companies are listening. LA, Atlanta and Chicago all have the million-square-foot facilities the event is demanding, and all will bend over backward to win it. Unlike Detroit, formerly known as the Motor City, which instead decided to see racism in every corner and to shout it to everyone.

It’s no wonder 0bama never came near Detroit during his campaign. The stench of failure wafting out of City Council offices is overpowering.

337 Dianna  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:13:20pm

re: #320 jamgarr

I’ve always liked:
Yes, This Is My Truck
And No, You Can’t Borrow It

The version I like says:

Yes, this is my truck.
No, I won’t help you move.

338 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:13:29pm

re: #318 SasquatchOnSteroids

I’ve noticed a few “Peacemonger” ones lately, saw another one that said “Lemmings Unite” with that friggin’ O seal.
Shake your head.

I have to wonder if that one might not have been placed there by the owner.

339 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:13:30pm

re: #323 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Secretary Clinton Appoints Farah Pandith to Head New Office of The United States Representative to Muslim Communities

Ain’t that cool?

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”

340 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:13:42pm

Oh yeah, another bumper sticker I like:

My other car is a piece of crap, too.

341 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:14:01pm

re: #326 EmmmieG

Hey Daddy G: Seen in Southern Utah, on a truck.

Yes, I am LDS.
Yes, this is my truck.
No, I will not help you move.

Hahahahahahahahahaha! Utah is the last place I’d try to start a local moving company. I knew a guy who tried to open a Utah chain of hair care places. He was successful in California but almost lost his lunch in Utah because everybody cut their own at home.

342 Dianna  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:14:07pm

re: #332 nyc redneck

all i have on my truck is SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.

I have a sticker that says, “Dog is my co-pilot.”

I’m thinking of having one made up that says, “My cat rishes.”

343 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:14:29pm

re: #293 _RememberTonyC

sometimes you can say a lot by saying nothing. lemme see if I can read your mind … the leader of the free world is something he has denied being. Am I close?

More than close.

344 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:14:56pm

re: #323 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Secretary Clinton Appoints Farah Pandith to Head New Office of The United States Representative to Muslim Communities

Ain’t that cool?

Can you imagine the uproar if someone tried to create an “Office of The United States Representative to Christian Communities”?

345 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:15:04pm

re: #336 SixDegrees

SludgeGate.

346 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:15:09pm

re: #336 SixDegrees

Conyers the wife may very well have put the final nail in Detroit’s coffin by opposing renovations at Cobo Hall, site of the Auto Show, a huge money maker for the city that is now seeking another venue because Cobo is antiquated and not big enough. Her reasoning? The proposed renovation involved partnering with surrounding county governments, which - in her small, hate-filled mind - meant Detroit was “giving away” it’s “assets” to whitey.

No, I’m not kidding.

Her grandstanding on other important issues has been every bit as odious over the years, but this one may have cost Detroit it’s only significant international convention. Not surprisingly, venues across the nation are drooling over hosting this major event, and the auto companies are listening. LA, Atlanta and Chicago all have the million-square-foot facilities the event is demanding, and all will bend over backward to win it. Unlike Detroit, formerly known as the Motor City, which instead decided to see racism in every corner and to shout it to everyone.

It’s no wonder 0bama never came near Detroit during his campaign. The stench of failure wafting out of City Council offices is overpowering.

Conyers wife pled guilty this morning to taking bribes

347 WinterCat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:15:17pm

re: #339 haakondahl

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”

Can my government stop pandering to all religious groups right now please?

348 Eowyn2  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:15:32pm

re: #187 lawhawk

Iranians have long believed that someone else was pulling the strings. The mullahs are capitalizing on this when they claim that the CIA was behind the demonstrations or that Neda was murdered by her fellow protesters.

It’s all an ongoing symptom of the cognitive dissonance in the Middle East and the Islamic culture whereby responsibility for one’s actions is absolved by the mere utterance of two magic phrases - It was da Joos or the it was the USA (tweaked to include the UK).


So, they use these excuses to butcher their own people, and brand those who are standing up against the rise of Ahmadinejad’s totalitarian regime as enemies of Islam - laying claim to a religious obligation to wipe out the protesters - jihad. Make no doubt that was the intention of Khatami today, and his willing followers are more than willing to spill the blood of their fellow Iranians in the pursuit of ideological purity and the fulfillment of prophesies.

The most facinating is that the US or UK or da Jooos have such power in a closed society. The infiltration powers of the CIA, MI-5, and the Mossad must be extremely efficient to coordinate all of these protests. To get hundreds of thousands of everyday people into the street.
Code Pink could learn a thing or two from these government ‘community organizers’

349 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:16:18pm

re: #332 nyc redneck

all i have on my truck is SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.

I have a flag, one on each side, canton on the forward edge.

And a fading W04 for my Seattle audience.

350 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:16:32pm

I dedicate this, my 2000th post, to Neda and the many other martyrs of Iran. We will not forget, just as we have not forgotten Tianamen Square, or Prague of 1956.

351 Eowyn2  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:16:40pm

re: #323 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Secretary Clinton Appoints Farah Pandith to Head New Office of The United States Representative to Muslim Communities

Ain’t that cool?

Pakistan will not be pleased that an Indian Muslim was chosen.

352 SixDegrees  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:17:05pm

re: #346 Creeping Eruption

Conyers wife pled guilty this morning to taking bribes

Yup. That’s what started this post.

Evil bitch.

353 beens21  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:17:15pm

re: #323 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Secretary Clinton Appoints Farah Pandith to Head New Office of The United States Representative to Muslim Communities

Ain’t that cool?

is that constitutional? What about Buddhists,animists,zoroasterians, etc?

354 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:17:31pm

re: #347 WinterCat

Can my government stop pandering to all religious groups right now please?

Sure. All except for one.

355 Dianna  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:17:37pm

re: #350 EmmmieG

I dedicate this, my 2000th post, to Neda and the many other martyrs of Iran. We will not forget, just as we have not forgotten Tianamen Square, or Prague of 1956.

Budapest in 1956 and Prague in 1968.

356 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:17:40pm

re: #352 SixDegrees

Yup. That’s what started this post.

Evil bitch.

Thats what I get for jumping into the middle of a thread.

357 yochanan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:17:48pm

re: #345 haakondahl

SludgeGate.

shitgate

358 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:17:58pm

re: #344 lobo91

Can you imagine the uproar if someone tried to create an “Office of The United States Representative to Christian Communities”?


Ambassador to Nirvanna
Emmisary to Valhalla
Special Envoy to Kolob (That’s for my LDS brethren and sisters)

-Yup, why the heck do we have ambassadors to religious groups? Israel and The Vatican I can see, but ?!

359 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:18:32pm

re: #346 Creeping Eruption

Conyers wife pled guilty this morning to taking bribes

Let’s see. Any guesses on what the headlines would be if Todd Palin plead guilty to taking bribes?

360 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:18:33pm

re: #353 beens21

is that constitutional? What about Buddhists,animists,zoroasterians, etc?

They’ll only get one if they start cutting people’s heads off or blowing them up…

361 WinterCat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:18:40pm

re: #354 kansas

Sure. All except for one.

I know, really. Just sickening. What do we hope to gain? Can someone spell out the upshot here?

362 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:19:18pm

re: #359 kansas

Let’s see. Any guesses on what the headlines would be if Todd Palin plead guilty to taking bribes?

/Something about Michael Jackson?

363 jamgarr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:19:33pm

re: #359 kansas

Let’s see. Any guesses on what the headlines would be if Todd Palin plead guilty to taking bribes?


Wolf Murderer’s Bullets Paid For By Graft ?

364 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:19:45pm

re: #342 Dianna

I have a sticker that says, “Dog is my co-pilot.”

I’m thinking of having one made up that says, “My cat rishes.”

Just for you :D

365 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:19:51pm

re: #363 jamgarr

Wolf Murderer’s Bullets Paid For By Graft ?

Excellent.

366 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:20:16pm

re: #358 DaddyG

Council on Hobbit Relations

367 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:20:27pm

re: #361 WinterCat

I know, really. Just sickening. What do we hope to gain? Can someone spell out the upshot here?

My guess would be CAIR promising to help re-elect Obama…

368 Dianna  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:21:00pm

re: #364 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just for you :D

My puppy once sat up and put his little chin on the edge of the door, one little corgi ear up and the other down. Too cute!

369 DaddyG  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:21:32pm

Slouching into caliphate.

370 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:21:48pm

re: #368 Dianna

My puppy once sat up and put his little chin on the edge of the door, one little corgi ear up and the other down. Too cute!

LOL!

371 haakondahl  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:21:52pm

Good Night, all.

372 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:22:08pm

re: #323 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Secretary Clinton Appoints Farah Pandith to Head New Office of The United States Representative to Muslim Communities

Ain’t that cool?

Head of the Office for Dhimmi Submission?

373 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:22:39pm

re: #311 subsailor68
Everyone on the Cap and Trade threads and Global warming threads is on to him. He is amazing. He “just got back from talking to the King Of Spain” today in one of his posts. Actually, his current product makes some sense in the right places. It is a reverse osmosis system where the pumps are driven by electricity from wind turbines. If you are in the middle nowhere and need a desalinization plant and have wind and the ocean, its not all that crazy. But he certainly is. I think he tinker-toyed a system from existing components. But still, he is a global warming loon of the highest order.

374 AZDave  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:23:04pm

re: #24 CyanSnowHawk

Do those run any better than the Italian Fiats?

Depends on the octane of the Holy water.

375 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:23:06pm

re: #368 Dianna

My puppy once sat up and put his little chin on the edge of the door, one little corgi ear up and the other down. Too cute!

I would love to know how a dog 12” high, once laid out on our bed, damn near takes the whole thing up.

376 [deleted]  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:23:06pm
377 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:23:18pm

re: #353 beens21

She is probably talking about the ones in the US.

378 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:23:21pm

re: #328 subsailor68

Øbama say Cap-N-Tax and Ø-Care, will cost One-Trillion each. But…when have the numbers ever been right? Medicare costs six times more then estimated. By using the medicare example - Cap-N-Tax & Ø-Care will cost a mere 12 Trillion Dollars.

379 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:23:39pm

bbl

380 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:24:02pm

re: #355 Dianna

Budapest in 1956 and Prague in 1968.

Oops. Well, I still mean it.

381 lostlakehiker  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:24:19pm

You could make a case under Sharia law that the Ahmadinejad government has broken with the fundamental tenet of Islam; that there is only one god.

How else to take it, when their tame ayatollahs say that anyone who opposes Ahmadinejad is guilty of “mohareb”, that is, of waging war on god?

Only if he, Ahmadinejad, is a living god, can opposing him be “mohareb”. Otherwise, it’s just a secular dispute.

Under Sharia law, if it were observed instead of just used as an excuse for power-grabbing and cruelty, this group of ayatollahs would face a grim reckoning.

382 [deleted]  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:24:20pm
383 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:24:29pm

re: #368 Dianna

My puppy once sat up and put his little chin on the edge of the door, one little corgi ear up and the other down. Too cute!

I had Corgi’s when I was a kid. Just loved them. :)

384 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:24:53pm

re: #375 SasquatchOnSteroids

I would love to know how a dog 12” high, once laid out on our bed, damn near takes the whole thing up.

Canine sphere of influence.

385 subsailor68  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:25:11pm

re: #376 taxfreekiller

210 to 210, 14 undecided on Crap On Trade Bill by Commie Democrats.

At this point, that’s almost a loss for the administration. If nothing else, momentum is slowing, and it may be much worse for them in the Senate.

Hey, I can hope, right, my fellow Texan!

;-)

386 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:26:07pm

re: #376 taxfreekiller

They need 8 of those 14 to pass it. The procedural vote gave them 7. The Senate will probably kill it anyway, but still. This is a freaking mess.

Anybody who thinks solar is simple needs their head examined. I just had a inverter brick on me today for no reason. Second time that inverter has done that. Thankfully a full board swap will be only 200 bucks, but still I forked out for a spare. An expensive day in solar city today.

387 WinterCat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:26:13pm

re: #381 lostlakehiker

Under Sharia law, if it were observed instead of just used as an excuse for power-grabbing and cruelty, this group of ayatollahs would face a grim reckoning.

I think the entire Islamic religion is pretty much up for interpretation of the people who hold political power so they probably aren’t worried about the disconnect.

388 Eowyn2  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:26:46pm

re: #306 Shr_Nfr

I have never understood why business pays up for that pos known as M$ Office. The average user has a hard time doing a simple spreadsheet.

though there are easier spread sheets to use, the average user isn’t trained correctly on any of them. They are put behind a keyboard and told the barest minimum in handling the data. They are mostly, after all, data entry personnel. Data Entry personnel do not need to know all the ins and outs of excel or peach or dbase (does dbase still exist?)

If employers would teach the people how to best use the software, much more could be accomplished. We cannot put all of the stupidity at the programmers’ door.

389 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:26:48pm
“President Obama. Please call your office.”
390 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:26:53pm

Okeedokee folkies, time for me to board the spaceship and go. Y’all have a great evening, a great weekend, and good times. Be safe, y’all!

391 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:27:04pm

re: #380 EmmmieG

For 2 extra points, where is the monument to the 1956 Hungarian revolution located in Boston?

392 Stuart Leviton  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:27:37pm

re: #95 revobob

Yup- the puns are in full flour now!

Winnow. Winnow.

393 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:28:04pm

re: #388 Eowyn2

though there are easier spread sheets to use, the average user isn’t trained correctly on any of them. They are put behind a keyboard and told the barest minimum in handling the data. They are mostly, after all, data entry personnel. Data Entry personnel do not need to know all the ins and outs of excel or peach or dbase (does dbase still exist?)

If employers would teach the people how to best use the software, much more could be accomplished. We cannot put all of the stupidity at the programmers’ door.

I’ve heard of users putting a column in Excel, and then adding it up with a calculator, and putting the sum in manually.

394 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:28:23pm

re: #386 Shr_Nfr

They need 8 of those 14 to pass it. The procedural vote gave them 7. The Senate will probably kill it anyway, but still. This is a freaking mess.

Anybody who thinks solar is simple needs their head examined. I just had a inverter brick on me today for no reason. Second time that inverter has done that. Thankfully a full board swap will be only 200 bucks, but still I forked out for a spare. An expensive day in solar city today.

Solar requires solar cells.
Solar cells are a silicon wafer with a simple circuit to convert photos to electricity.
Silicon wafers require big factories, lots of electricity and lots of nasty chemicals.

395 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:28:40pm

re: #389 Noam Sayin’

“President Obama. Please call your office.”


Wait until 3am

396 WinterCat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:28:44pm

re: #391 Shr_Nfr

For 2 extra points, where is the monument to the 1956 Hungarian revolution located in Boston?

Liberty Square?

397 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:28:59pm

re: #391 Shr_Nfr

For 2 extra points, where is the monument to the 1956 Hungarian revolution located in Boston?

I’ve never been to Boston, although I plan on going sometime in the next four years.

398 [deleted]  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:29:27pm
399 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:29:43pm

re: #389 Noam Sayin’

“President Obama. Please call your office.”

Why bother?

400 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:29:49pm

re: #397 EmmmieG

I’ve never been to Boston, although I plan on going sometime in the next four years.

Come now before the state taxes go up and they allow the city to raise its own taxes.

401 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:30:34pm

This just in:

Michael Jackson still dead.

402 KenJen  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:30:42pm

re: #323 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Secretary Clinton Appoints Farah Pandith to Head New Office of The United States Representative to Muslim Communities

Ain’t that cool?

Last time I checked we voted for our Representatives in this country. Now the Obama Admin. is appointing them. If I were a part of the Muslim Community I’d be a little pissed. I know its a bullshit appointment but still. Is this done for any other religion?

403 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:30:57pm

re: #386 Shr_Nfr

How long until you break even on your sunk costs versus your savings?

404 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:31:00pm

re: #394 jcm

Yep, the dirty little secret of semiconductors. The rest of it is that the stuff is not maintenance free.

405 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:31:28pm

re: #396 WinterCat

2 extra points. And the fountain in Post Office square is dedicated to?

406 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:31:48pm

re: #331 Creeping Eruption

A few weeks back I saw an enormous F350 Super Duty with an EARTH FIRST bumper sticker on it. As I got closer, I saw that it said in small letters beneath that “We’ll drill the other planets later.”

Reminds me of a pro logging poster in Washington state back in the beginning of the Spotted Owl days - photo from space of the Olympic Peninsula and the east coast of Puget Sound

Image: olympic.gif

Where small areas of brown patches of clear cut areas are seen - and the entire east coast of the sound had been “clear cut and paved” … I forget the wording of the punch line but the point was well taken.

407 yochanan  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:31:59pm

cap and trade will double the energy bills which will cause the deaths of thousands of poor people when they can’t afford A.C. or there heat. for rich or upper middleclass people this will be expansive for poor or people on the margins of being poor this could easly cost them a hell of a lot more.

408 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:32:25pm

re: #404 Shr_Nfr

Yep, the dirty little secret of semiconductors. The rest of it is that the stuff is not maintenance free.

One of the elements used to dope silicon is arsenic.

And the solar panels have a lifetime of about 20 years.

409 wiffersnapper  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:32:56pm

Religion of Pieces more like.

410 WinterCat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:33:38pm

re: #405 Shr_Nfr

2 extra points. And the fountain in Post Office square is dedicated to?


Angell Memorial
for animals.

411 kansas  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:33:40pm

re: #402 KenJen

Last time I checked we voted for our Representatives in this country. Now the Obama Admin. is appointing them. If I were a part of the Muslim Community I’d be a little pissed. I know its a bullshit appointment but still. Is this done for any other religion?

You know, CAIR always pissed me off. Why does a religion have to have a council in order to get along with a country. How about a Council for American Christian/Jewish/Catholic/
Relations? Guess that will be next to the office of the White Congressional Caucus, not that I would be for that.

412 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:35:13pm

re: #404 Shr_Nfr

Yep, the dirty little secret of semiconductors. The rest of it is that the stuff is not maintenance free.

My company and Sunpower are closely related we just spun them out.

413 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:35:13pm

re: #403 lawhawk

I will not live long enough. Its a hobby for a guy who has a degree in EE from MIT. No more, no less. Its an expensive hobby too. Us MIT nerds are like that. Fortunately, I can afford the expense. But philosophically I want off the grid. I trust it less and less as time goes on. I am not the tuna fish horde Ron Paul nutjob, but I want to get away from things that can go wrong. Complex systems are fragile systems. Put in the hands of bureacrats they become broken systems.

414 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:35:15pm

re: #406 Bobibutu

You know, I can recall one clear cut that did more damage initially to the forests of Washington State than man could.

415 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:36:30pm

re: #408 Kosh’s Shadow

Perhaps. It is unclear. That is their rated lifetime. Maybe I will be alive in 20 years, maybe not. I will cross that bridge when I get to it.

416 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:36:51pm

re: #394 jcm

Solar requires solar cells.
Solar cells are a silicon wafer with a simple circuit to convert photos to electricity.
Silicon wafers require big factories, lots of electricity and lots of nasty chemicals.

Next you’re going to claim that it requires a power plant somewhere to produce electricity to charge the batteries in an electric car.

Everyone knows the electricity comes out of the outlet on the wall…
///////

417 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:36:59pm

re: #413 Shr_Nfr

I will not live long enough. Its a hobby for a guy who has a degree in EE from MIT. No more, no less. Its an expensive hobby too. Us MIT nerds are like that. Fortunately, I can afford the expense. But philosophically I want off the grid. I trust it less and less as time goes on. I am not the tuna fish horde Ron Paul nutjob, but I want to get away from things that can go wrong. Complex systems are fragile systems. Put in the hands of bureacrats they become broken systems.

Off grid would be nice.

I really don’t want to be on a smart grid, with big brother monitoring.

418 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:37:32pm

re: #410 WinterCat

Bingo. You get the Cat Ass Trophy.

419 Dianna  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:37:38pm

re: #370 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL!

Yeah, it got even better, because this guy had been pulled up on my passenger side on the shoulder of I-205, honking, yelling Bible verses at me and screaming that I was a blasphemer because of my bumper sticker.

So when the Goon sat up, he shut up. His wife, who’d had her head down in her hands after trying to shush him for something like five miles, was laughing her head off last time I looked in the mirror.

420 WinterCat  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:37:55pm

re: #418 Shr_Nfr

Bingo. You get the Cat Ass Trophy.

Um. Ick.

421 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:38:56pm

re: #377 Shr_Nfr

She is probably talking about the ones in the US.

Outreach to the Islamic world is still handled by CENTCOM, I believe.

422 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:38:56pm

re: #414 lawhawk

You know, I can recall one clear cut that did more damage initially to the forests of Washington State than man could.

Yep! And an amazing natural recovery.

423 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:38:58pm

re: #413 Shr_Nfr

Indeed. Perhaps one day they’ll figure out how to make the solar cells truly economical and/or powerful enough to capture more power per square meter.

In the meantime, it’s cheaper to add insulation to existing homes, and install more energy efficient appliances - with much quicker cost savings recognized. Especially for those folks who can’t build solar or wind b/c of local issues (too shady, national historic neighborhood - like mine, etc.)

424 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:39:28pm

Big Oil’s Answer to Carbon Law May Be Fuel Imports (Update2)

America’s biggest oil companies will probably cope with U.S. carbon legislation by closing fuel plants, cutting capital spending and increasing imports.

Under the Waxman-Markey climate bill that may be voted on today by the U.S. House, refiners would have to buy allowances for carbon dioxide spewed from their plants and from vehicles when motorists burn their fuel. Imports would need permits only for the latter, which ConocoPhillips Chief Executive Officer Jim Mulva said would create a competitive imbalance.

“It will lead to the opportunity for foreign sources to bring in transportation fuels at a lower cost, which will have an adverse impact to our industry, potential shutdown of refineries and investment and, ultimately, employment,” Mulva said in a June 16 interview in Detroit. Houston-based ConocoPhillips has the second-largest U.S. refining capacity.

/WTF is Congress doing, do they even know or care?

425 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:39:44pm

re: #339 haakondahl

re: #353 beens21

re: #344 lobo91

re: #372 Kosh’s Shadow

I’ve not the vaguest what these clowns & clownettes are doing but it has set my blood to boiling.

426 freetoken  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:39:54pm

re: #243 taxfreekiller

How bad is this Democrat Cap and Trade bull shit.

Greenpeace is opposed to it.

[Link: www.greenpeace.org…]

Many people who wish to see AGW addresses are unhappy with the Cap and Trade bill. The term used is “greenwashing”. The belief is that the bill will not make sufficient inroads into reducing CO2 production (with which I agree), yet the bill is acceptable to Congress because it raises considerable revenue.

427 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:40:03pm

re: #417 jcm

Even worse with big brother requiring you to buy appliances he can control through it. Thanks but no thanks. Time of day costing makes sense in that running peakers is more expensive than running baseload, but beyond that, no.

428 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:40:27pm

re: #422 Bobibutu

Indeed. It was a humbling experience to stand before that volcano and knowing that it was still rumbling and bubbling deep inside the earth. It reformatted the Earth for several hundred square miles around it.

429 freetoken  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:40:56pm

PIMF addressed

430 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:40:59pm

re: #420 WinterCat

Well, how we got it to give to you is another tail.

431 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:41:41pm

re: #416 lobo91

Next you’re going to claim that it requires a power plant somewhere to produce electricity to charge the batteries in an electric car.

Everyone knows the electricity comes out of the outlet on the wall…
///////

Dang, here I was making it so complicated.

Thanks!

432 Eowyn2  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:41:44pm

re: #352 SixDegrees

Yup. That’s what started this post.

Evil bitch.

where did her “poor” non-racist supporters get bribe money

433 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:42:01pm

re: #424 Killian Bundy

Big Oil’s Answer to Carbon Law May Be Fuel Imports (Update2)


/WTF is Congress doing, do they even know or care?

Yes, importing refined fuel instead of crude oil will definitely solve our problems…
///

434 Eowyn2  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:42:31pm

re: #393 Kosh’s Shadow

I’ve heard of users putting a column in Excel, and then adding it up with a calculator, and putting the sum in manually.

that’s what the help button is for.

435 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:43:26pm

re: #431 jcm

Dang, here I was making it so complicated.

Thanks!

I can be Energy Secretary now?

436 JustABill  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:43:51pm

re: #405 Shr_Nfr

2 extra points. And the fountain in Post Office square is dedicated to?

The girl Ted drove off a bridge?
///

437 KenJen  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:44:05pm

re: #413 Shr_Nfr

I will not live long enough. Its a hobby for a guy who has a degree in EE from MIT. No more, no less. Its an expensive hobby too. Us MIT nerds are like that. Fortunately, I can afford the expense. But philosophically I want off the grid. I trust it less and less as time goes on. I am not the tuna fish horde Ron Paul nutjob, but I want to get away from things that can go wrong. Complex systems are fragile systems. Put in the hands of bureacrats they become broken systems.

I agree with you. Won’t using less fossil fuels but more pressure on our antiquated grid system? Instead of filling our car with gas we will have to plug it in to recharge. Imagine the increase on the grid system with every one in Americas car plugged in every night.

438 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:44:13pm

re: #428 lawhawk

The most recent data seems to indicate that it is hooked into a nice system that could cause another big bang anytime. [Link: www.oregonlive.com…] Prediction is a hazardous science, especially when it involves the future.

439 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:44:23pm

re: #435 lobo91

I can be Energy Secretary now?

Why? You owe taxes or something? :)
Good Afternoon lizards!

440 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:45:10pm

re: #433 lobo91

Yes, importing refined fuel instead of crude oil will definitely solve our problems…
///

Great. First we send out manufacturing overseas, now we’ll depend on them completely for gasoline as well.
Can we just send Congress overseas? Preferably to Antarctica?

441 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:45:20pm

re: #433 lobo91

But, but, that means the CO2 to produce it will be released someplace else. Doesn’t that contribute to global cooling?

442 astronmr20  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:46:03pm

Watching C-span right now and almost in tears in frustration and anger.

Can’t believe this…

443 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:46:19pm

Obama scoffs……
Obama scoffs at Ahmadinejad’s demand for apology

President Barack Obama’s criticism of Iran escalated Friday into an unusually personal war of words. To Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s demand he apologize for meddling, Obama shot back that the regime should “think carefully” about answers owed to protesters it has arrested, bludgeoned and killed.

“The violence perpetrated against them is outrageous,” Obama said. “We see it and we condemn it.”

444 CynicalConservative  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:46:42pm

re: #442 astronmr20

Watching C-span right now and almost in tears in frustration and anger.

Can’t believe this…

It’s criminal.

445 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:47:01pm

re: #437 KenJen

I agree with you. Won’t using less fossil fuels but more pressure on our antiquated grid system? Instead of filling our car with gas we will have to plug it in to recharge. Imagine the increase on the grid system with every one in Americas car plugged in every night.

I think it’s particularly rich that the California legislature wanted to mandate sales of huge numbers of electric cars there, given that state’s history of brownouts and the like.

Apparently, life is like the movie Groundhog Day for them. Every day just starts fresh, and what happened a few years ago doesn’t matter.

446 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:47:04pm

re: #442 astronmr20

Watching C-span right now and almost in tears in frustration and anger.

Can’t believe this…

Michael Jackson memorial?

447 jcm  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:47:22pm

re: #428 lawhawk

Indeed. It was a humbling experience to stand before that volcano and knowing that it was still rumbling and bubbling deep inside the earth. It reformatted the Earth for several hundred square miles around it.

Couple of years ago Mt. St. Helens had a small amount of activity over several months. The SO2 release was a couple times all the human SO2 for WA state.

448 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:47:28pm

re: #428 lawhawk

Indeed. It was a humbling experience to stand before that volcano and knowing that it was still rumbling and bubbling deep inside the earth. It reformatted the Earth for several hundred square miles around it.

Yes - I remember enterprising folks making various items from the ash and selling them all up and down the west coast. Latest I read it’s still growing back and will reach it’s prior height in a couple of hundred more years.

449 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:48:08pm

re: #439 HoosierHoops

Why? You owe taxes or something? :)
Good Afternoon lizards!

No, but I do need a job.

450 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:49:11pm

re: #449 lobo91

No, but I do need a job.

/there’s a future in candle making

451 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:49:13pm

re: #440 Honorary Yooper

Great. First we send out manufacturing overseas, now we’ll depend on them completely for gasoline as well.
Can we just send Congress overseas? Preferably to Antarctica?

I think there are international treaties against polluting Antarctica like that.

452 CynicalConservative  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:49:39pm

re: #446 Killgore Trout

Michael Jackson memorial?

No, just the flushing of the American dream vis-a-vis, cap and tax. You would love it.

453 freetoken  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:50:11pm

re: #437 KenJen

I agree with you. Won’t using less fossil fuels but more pressure on our antiquated grid system? Instead of filling our car with gas we will have to plug it in to recharge. Imagine the increase on the grid system with every one in Americas car plugged in every night.

Demand is usually lower at night, so plugging in vehicles at night would reduced the differential between daytime and nighttime electricity use.

Also, everyone who works on this is well aware of the need to improve the electricity distribution system. Which is why proposals such as implementing HVDC lines from wind and sun rich areas to urban locations is often discussed.

454 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:50:33pm

More Disgusting than Forced Confessions

Word from Iran is that the authorities have forced Neda’s father to appear on state television and say that the protestors, and not the regime, killed her.

455 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:50:35pm

re: #451 lobo91

I think there are international treaties against polluting Antarctica like that.

OK, then can we just export Congress and let them fuck up another country for a change?

456 CynicalConservative  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:51:05pm

re: #452 CynicalConservative

No, just the flushing of the American dream vis-a-vis, cap and tax. You would love it.

Avaiti and Ice would probably love it more. They’re openly lib.

457 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:51:29pm

re: #455 Honorary Yooper

OK, then can we just export Congress and let them fuck up another country for a change?

I hear Iran is nice…

458 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:51:32pm

re: #452 CynicalConservative

Ah, I haven’t been following the cap and trade thing. Is it expected to pass?

459 KenJen  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:51:46pm

re: #443 Killgore Trout

Obama scoffs……
Obama scoffs at Ahmadinejad’s demand for apology

He went from “concerned” to “outraged” in a day. Looks like he is making progress.

460 [deleted]  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:52:29pm
461 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:52:57pm

re: #459 KenJen

He went from “concerned” to “outraged” in a day. Looks like he is making progress.

Let me know when he gets to “write an angry letter.”

462 CynicalConservative  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:53:10pm

re: #458 Killgore Trout

Ah, I haven’t been following the cap and trade thing. Is it expected to pass?

Personal assessment is 50/50. I think there are some intelligent dems that accept what a catastrophe this would be, but one never knows what strongarm tactics blinky will use.

463 Airedale  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:53:13pm

CODE PINK blog entry when they were in Iran in November.

Wonder what they have to say about things now ?

[Link: codepinkdc.blogspot.com…]


464 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:53:44pm

re: #458 Killgore Trout

Ah, I haven’t been following the cap and trade thing. Is it expected to pass?

It’s expected to barely pass in the House, but probably not in the Senate.

465 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:54:24pm

re: #458 Killgore Trout

Ah, I haven’t been following the cap and trade thing. Is it expected to pass?

Whether it passes now or by the end of the year, Cap-n-Tax & Ø-Care will be reality.

466 John Neverbend  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:54:58pm

re: #454 Killgore Trout

More Disgusting than Forced Confessions

To use a catchphrase of a late British comedian, the regime in Iran really is an absolute shower.

467 CynicalConservative  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:55:31pm

re: #465 unrealizedviewpoint

Whether it passes now or by the end of the year, Cap-n-Tax & Ø-Care will be reality.

Sad but true, I think. Might as well plan on sending in my paycheck to the IRS and filing for welfare.

468 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:55:42pm

re: #465 unrealizedviewpoint

Whether it passes now or by the end of the year, Cap-n-Tax & Ø-Care will be reality.


Yeah, I’ve become kinda fatalistic about this stuff too. Let the chips fall where they may.

469 [deleted]  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:55:50pm
470 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:56:14pm

re: #463 Airedale

CODE PINK blog entry when they were in Iran in November.

Wonder what they have to say about things now ?

[Link: codepinkdc.blogspot.com…]

Same thing they said then: “Yes, we have to wear headscarves and long coats, but that seems so unimportant …”

471 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:56:42pm

re: #459 KenJen

He went from “concerned” to “outraged” in a day. Looks like he is making progress.

Just wait till it dawns on him there’s a full purge underway - not that he’ll give a rats-ask.

472 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:57:39pm

re: #470 Creeping Eruption

Same thing they said then: “Yes, we have to wear headscarves and long coats, but that seems so unimportant …”

It’s interesting to note that they were there in November.

I wonder what they would have said about that if they’d been there in the summer?

473 winnd54  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:58:06pm

Don’t give up fighting ALL of Obama’s mad schemes! We have to keep calling Washington until they listen to US!

474 nyc redneck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:58:09pm

re: #459 KenJen

He went from “concerned” to “outraged” in a day. Looks like he is making progress.

he is outraged because finally he sees they are mocking HIM w/ his own ridiculous apology schtick.

475 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:58:50pm

re: #472 lobo91

It’s interesting to note that they were there in November.

I wonder what they would have said about that if they’d been there in the summer?

Rest of the quote:

-although I must say that I feel very claustrophobic covering my head all day. (During lunch at the restaurant, Rostam told me I could take the scarf off, but about 20 minutes later some men came to complain.)

476 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:59:32pm

re: #475 Creeping Eruption


Rest of the quote:

-although I must say that I feel very claustrophobic covering my head all day. (During lunch at the restaurant, Rostam told me I could take the scarf off, but about 20 minutes later some men came to complain.

477 John Neverbend  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:59:33pm

re: #469 buzzsawmonkey

Terry-Thomas, I assume.

Of course. Who else?

478 96RoadKing  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:59:38pm

Here’s a little good news: the protesters are continuing, albeit in a more underground manner:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/26/protesters-use-navy-technology-to-avoid-censorship/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_more_news_carousel

Makes a former squid proud

479 CynicalConservative  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:00:23pm

re: #468 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I’ve become kinda fatalistic about this stuff too. Let the chips fall where they may.

I don’t know whether or not to respect this opinion or to disparage it. Do you really care or is this an issue that is below your notice because you can’t tie it to Ron Paul?

/ not really

480 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:00:43pm

re: #463 Airedale

Oh lordy….some of the comments there are just priceless!

481 HelloDare  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:01:52pm

Harvard’s Muslim Chaplain Embroiled in Death-for-Apostasy Controversy

Remarks on apostasy and capital punishment under Islamic law by Harvard’s Muslim chaplain have become the center of a heated debate about whether Islamic and Western values can be compatible.

In an e-mail to an unnamed student, the chaplain, Taha Abdul-Basser, stated that most traditional authorities on Islamic law agree that in countries under Muslim governance, the proper punishment for apostasy — that is, rejection of Islam by a former Muslim — is death. The e-mail was subsequently published online, and although Abdul-Basser has distanced himself personally from that position, the remarks have stirred a flurry of controversy and debate.

Abdul-Basser’s e-mail was circulated through an e-mail list and subsequently posted April 3 on the blog Talk Islam, from which it was picked up by several other blogs. On April 14, The Harvard Crimson, a student-run daily, published an article about the controversy. One week later, on April 21, it remained the paper’s most viewed, most commented-upon article online.

The issue being debated is anything but academic: Apostasy is outlawed in a number of Muslim countries, including Afghanistan, Malaysia, Iran and Algeria. In 2006, an Afghan named Abdul Rahman faced trial, with a potential sentence of death, for converting to Christianity, before being granted asylum in Italy. The issue has attracted a great deal of attention from such international human rights groups as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International.

In his original e-mail, Abdul-Basser appeared to put himself at odds with the international human rights community, which includes a number of luminaries who teach at Harvard. After a lengthy discussion of the positions of various Muslim autorities, he concluded by writing that “there is great wisdom (hikma) associated with the established and preserved position (capital punishment), and so, even if it makes some uncomfortable in the face of the hegemonic modern human rights discourse, one should not dismiss it out of hand.”

482 astronmr20  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:02:05pm

re: #446 Killgore Trout

Michael Jackson memorial?

No. A United States memorial.

We are in our sunset.

FUCK YOU, WAXMAN.

483 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:02:31pm

re: #480 Fenway_Nation

Oh lordy….some of the comments there are just priceless!

Can you imagine the ones that were deleted?

484 nyc redneck  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:02:32pm

re: #463 Airedale

CODE PINK blog entry when they were in Iran in November.

Wonder what they have to say about things now ?

[Link: codepinkdc.blogspot.com…]

self serving worthless stupid hags. if they believed in human rights they would return to iran and march w/ the citizens, not cavort w/ mullah killers.

485 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:03:00pm

re: #468 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I’ve become kinda fatalistic about this stuff too. Let the chips fall where they may.

The republican’s sure let us down. They allowed the liberals to win total control, allowing them to reign in all their whims regardless the cost to the people… So sad.

486 JustABill  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:03:42pm

re: #446 Killgore Trout

Michael Jackson memorial?

re: #450 Killian Bundy

/there’s a future in candle making

Don’t count on it, burning candles produce Co2.

What we need to do is run fiber optic cable from the side of the planet that is in the sunlight at the moment to the other side of the planet that doesn’t to use as lighting///

487 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:04:30pm

re: #463 Airedale

From the comments:

November 22, 2008 10:01 PM
Zahra Sharifi said…
Medea Benjamin, you’re one pathetic sociopath. You want to hate your own stupid country so much, you go right ahead but mess around with Iran and Iranian? I don’t think so. Haven’t we had enough of Ramsey Clark where now, you, his whore puppets are in there fluffing up the Mullahs? Who the hell do you cultural imperialist cow think you are? You want real hospitality? You ain’t seen nothing until you get a full frontal view of what the Mullahs do to us Iranian women you spoiled twat. Meanwhile, you won’t mind if we broadcast some of your photos to our friends and family in Iran so that they can come to spit in your face, in Tehran, would you? I mean since you stole the photo of innocent Iranian women and changed the image around, photoshopped some lies on there and shamelessly put it up…I think the women in Iran deserve to know who is aiding and abetting their oppressors, don’t you? I mean, hey, if you scream for transparency in your own country, then you damn well better want the same in ours…but you won’t because you WANT to keep our women downtrodden because that’s what colonialists like you do.

488 tfc3rid  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:06:09pm

With this Cap and Trade nonsense and the backroom Chicago Politics going on on the House floor, does anyone wonder why people might want Obama to fail?

489 Airedale  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:06:33pm

re: #480 Fenway_Nation

Oh lordy….some of the comments there are just priceless!

I tried to repost the link for just the comment section alone.
I thought it was worth a trip down the memory hole lane for the chuckle factor alone.

beats crying

[Link: codepinkdc.blogspot.com…]

and further entrys get just as interesting in the comment sections

490 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:06:50pm

re: #486 JustABill

Don’t count on it, burning candles produce Co2.

What we need to do is run fiber optic cable from the side of the planet that is in the sunlight at the moment to the other side of the planet that doesn’t to use as lighting///

Why not just install mirrors on ALL the existing satellites in Earths orbit to reflect the sunlight to the darkside of the planet?
/

491 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:07:33pm

re: #488 tfc3rid

With this Cap and Trade nonsense and the backroom Chicago Politics going on on the House floor, does anyone wonder why people might want Obama to fail?

exactamundo! that’s what Rushbo meant.

492 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:10:48pm

Item of interest just posted in the WSJ comments section by Rei Shinozuka

Message
Connect
The Junk Science curtain pulled back in a suppressed March 16 2009 EPA internal report:

[Link: cei.org…]

QUOTES:

The current draft Technical Support Document … is based largely on the IPCC AR4 report, which is at best 3 years out of date in a rapidly changing field.

* Global temperatures have declined—extending the current downtrend to 11 years … at the same time atmospheric CO2 levels have continued to increase and CO2 emissions have accelerated

* The consensus on past, present and future Atlantic hurricane behavior has changed. Initially it tilted towards the idea that anthropogenic global warming is leading to (and will lead to) to more frequent and intense storms. Now the consensus is much more neutral…

* The idea that warming temperatures will cause Greenland to rapidly shed its ice has been greatly diminished by new results indicating little evidence for the operation of such processes.

* One of the worst economic recessions since WWII has greatly decreased GHG (Green House Gas) emissions compared to the assumptions made by the IPCC. To the extent that ambient GHG levels are relevant for future global temperatures, these emissions reductions should greatly influence the adverse effects of these emissions on public health and welfare. The current draft TSP does not reflect the changes that have already occurred nor those that are likely to occur in the future as a results of the recession. In fact, the topic is not even discussed to our knowledge.

* A new 2009 paper finds that the crucial assumption in the GCM models used by the IPCC concerning strongly positive feedback from water vapor is not supported by empirical evidence and that the feedback is actually negative.

* A new 2009 paper by Scafetta and West suggests that the IPCC used faulty solar data in dismissing the direct effect of solar variability on global temperatures. Their research suggests that solar variability could account for up to 68% of the increase in Earth’s global temperatures.

[Link: cei.org…]

from the CEI website:

[Link: cei.org…]

Story of the EPA’s Al McGartland Director of EPAs National Center for Environmental Economics attempt to suppress this report:

QUOTE: “your comments do not help the legal or policy case for this decision.…. I can only see one impact of your comments given where we are in the process, and that would be a very negative impact on our office.”

QUOTE: “i don’t want you to spend any additional EPA time on climate change. No papers, no research etc…”

[Link: cei.org…]

493 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:11:26pm

uh-oh….did cap & trade just pass?

494 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:12:10pm

re: #493 Fenway_Nation

uh-oh….did cap & trade just pass?

It was a test vote…It will pass the House it looks like

495 CynicalConservative  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:12:27pm

re: #493 Fenway_Nation

uh-oh….did cap & trade just pass?

No vote that I’ve seen yet, have to wait and see.

496 tfc3rid  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:13:00pm

I don’t even care about the scientific argument at this point. What drives me insane is the imperative that ‘if we fail to act…’ Same BS as the failed stimulus plan. Same BS as the Health Care plan…

Look at the potential effects of this and see how damaging it can be on the economy. They don’t care. They want to score points with the special interests and hard core lefties who see America’s industrial producers are eeeevil.

Spit on them all.

497 tfc3rid  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:13:48pm

re: #493 Fenway_Nation

uh-oh….did cap & trade just pass?

They’ll make their little earmark deals and it will pass the House.

498 [deleted]  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:15:05pm
499 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:15:57pm

Between cap & trade, Card Check and healthcare ‘reform’; I don’t see how the damage can be undone if any of those three pass.

500 Airedale  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:16:38pm

Last blog entry from CODE PINK:

Thursday, June 4, 2009
CODEPINK delivers peace letter from Hamas to Obama


[Link: codepinkdc.blogspot.com…]

Must have gone on vacation after that………….

501 freetoken  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:16:48pm

re: #492 Shr_Nfr

Glad someone finally posted that…

And I am not surprised you are the one to post it, given your tendency to confuse garbage with science.

That white paper (not a journal paper) is full of garbage.

Not the least of which are the several references to Theodor Landscheidt, an astrologer!

502 tfc3rid  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:16:52pm

re: #499 Fenway_Nation

Between cap & trade, Card Check and healthcare ‘reform’; I don’t see how the damage can be undone if any of those three pass.

It cannot be undone and will not be undone.

Once again, these clowns on both sides are going to vote on something they haven’t even read nor do they likely understand it…

503 doppelganglander  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:17:41pm

I know AGW stands for anthropogenic global warming, but I always read it as anthropomorphic. I think it’s more suitable, considering how some of these nuts think the planet itself is alive and animals are equal to humans.

504 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:20:37pm


Iran empowers ‘butcher’ to interrogate opposition leaders

Saaed Mortazavi, an Iranian prosecutor who was responsible for ordering over 100 newspapers closed and dozens of bloggers and journalists arrested, tortured and in some cases, killed, has been empowered to interrogate Iran’s opposition leaders, according to published reports.

Mortazavi’s frightful history has earned him two distinct nicknames: “Butcher of the press” and “torturer of Tehran.”

“The leading role of Saeed Mortazavi in the crackdown in Tehran should set off alarm bells for anyone familiar with his record,” said Human Rights Watch Middle East director Sarah Leah Whitson, according to a a Times Online report.

505 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:22:27pm

re: #492 Shr_Nfr

That does not look good for the USEPA.

506 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:22:32pm

re: #504 Killgore Trout


Iran empowers ‘butcher’ to interrogate opposition leaders

Gee, I sure feel powerless today.

507 snowcrash  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:25:17pm

re: #502 tfc3rid
tfc, I am so tired and disheartened by what I saw on CSPAN today. Elected officials ready to vote on a Bill they haven’t read, a bill that has a “placeholder” in it for future unknown additions, a bill with 300 additional pages of language that wasn’t readily available to the Congressmen until 2 am, a Bill that had undecided Congressmen making deals with Waxman on the floor because enough time wasn’t given to hammering out the language its contents…I could go on and on but I am disgusted.

508 Manster  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:25:20pm

It’s the year 2009 and I’m not sure which is worse, the fact that we have millions of people in this world who are being controlled by a bunch of kooks, or that we have a President who legitimizes these kooks?

509 The Other Les  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:27:36pm

Being a Self-Appointed Superior Being means never having to treat other people as anything better than a domestic animal. It also means never having to acknowledge one’s own errors or otherwise speak the truth.

Such people cannot be argued or negotiated with. (I’ve tried, it never works) But to advocate the only reasonable solution to the SASB Problem is a violation of the forum rules.

510 The Other Les  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:28:30pm

re: #508 Manster

… or that we have a President who legitimizes these kooks?


Think of it as tyrannophila in action.

511 lobo91  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:29:04pm

re: #508 Manster

It’s the year 2009 and I’m not sure which is worse, the fact that we have millions of people in this world who are being controlled by a bunch of kooks, or that we have a President who legitimizes these kooks?

Are you referring to the global warming kooks, or the Iranians?

512 filetandrelease  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:30:11pm

Is Bush still stupid? It is so confusing. The axis of evil has stepped out of the closet with a clinched fist. Yet the smart “one” was using brilliant dialogue to bring positive change. It seems a tad bit embarrassing in retrospect to all the offers of open and friendly communication with monsters of the sort who release mobs with hatchets on citizen protesters while the other side of the axis is threatening nuclear extermination of our home land. Some one here suggested POTUS isn’t conducive to on the job training. It makes me wonder if the “O” even knows he is being bitched slapped.

513 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:31:27pm

re: #501 freetoken

Glad someone finally posted that…

And I am not surprised you are the one to post it, given your tendency to confuse garbage with science.

That white paper (not a journal paper) is full of garbage.

Not the least of which are the several references to Theodor Landscheidt, an astrologer!

I have no idea how many government reports you’ve seen or written, but this is not intended to be in a journal. It is an internal government report meant to be read, like the Right Wing Extremists report, by other governmental officals and agencies, in this case, USEPA.

If you’ll take note, the article Freetoken is referring to was published in Energy and Environment (a bit of a free-for-all, IMHO); however, many other articles were published in Science and Nature as well as other similar peer-reviewed journals.

Of course, Freetoken would rather use the opportunity to bash it using three references out of a total of 52 used on a draft report, not a final report.

514 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 2:46:54pm

re: #488 tfc3rid

With this Cap and Trade nonsense and the backroom Chicago Politics going on on the House floor, does anyone wonder why people might want Obama to fail?

Just fail?

The phrase “Down in Flames” comes to mind.

515 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 3:05:15pm

re: #499 Fenway_Nation

Between cap & trade, Card Check and healthcare ‘reform’; I don’t see how the damage can be undone if any of those three pass.

Scary, scary…scary, from Politico/Drudge:

Republican accused the Democrats of ramming the bill through the House. Rep. Joe Barton (R-Tex.) asked repeatedly if there was even a copy of the current version of the bill anywhere in the House chamber. Democratic Rep. Ellen Tauscher – sitting in the speaker’s chair although she’s already been confirmed as Obama’s undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Securityrepeatedly dodged the question.

Your very lives and livelihood are now on-the-line with this type of crap.

Chances are it will get worse.

516 Hawaii69  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 3:31:14pm

re: #10 DaddyG

Mr. President,

Can we condemn the Iranian regieme now or would that be imposing preconditions?

Obama scoffs at Ahmadinejad apology demand

Standing next to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Obama said the United States and Germany share “one voice” in condemning the Iranian effort to crush dissent. He said Iran’s leaders cannot hide the “outrageous” behavior of clamping down violently on their people.

“We see it and we condemn it,” Obama said.

517 Render  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 4:07:59pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

“DIO Model S-5.56 assault rifle”

“In the year 2003, the Defense Industries Organization of Iran began marketing the S-5.56 rifle, a clone of the Type CQ [11], that had been first unveiled in the West in the year 2001 by the authoritative Jane’s Information Group [12]. The rifle itself is offered in two variants: the S-5.56 A1 with a 19.9-inch barrel and 1:12 pitch rifling (1 turn in 305 mm), optimized for the use of the M193 Ball cartridge; and the S-5.56 A3 with a 20-inch barrel and a 1:7 pitch rifling (1 turn in 177, 8 mm), optimized for the use of the SS-109 cartridge [13]. The S-5.56 was originally announced to be solely offered for export, though since the years 2005 and 2006 Iranian soldiers armed with the S-5.56 have been seen and photographed during training operations [14].”

===

But we already knew the man was a bald faced pathological liar, before his words were even printed. We knew that as soon as we saw the words “Iranian diplomat” in the article.

SMOKER,
R

518 nines09  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 4:17:39pm

It’s just so much easier to be totalitarian with “god” on YOUR side. After all, the troubles eminating from the “election” are all caused by either outside influence (CIA sanity and the hope of freedom?) or those who go against the +word” of “god”.
The only thing that shocked me was the thugs in control did not OPENLY kill more demonstrators. There will be no velvet revolution in Iran. Now the real repression starts.

519 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 4:23:04pm

passes 219-212 motion to reconsider, waxman about to shoot off mouth.

520 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 4:25:25pm

re: #519 Shr_Nfr

Pretty much party line. 37 donk nays, 7 repig yeas. not sure where reconsider motion is at the moment. I may have donk nays and repig yeas incorrect by one or two.

521 rumcrook  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 6:29:31pm

why didnt the reporter say people are being axed to death, thrown from bridges by regime thugs, but its not possible it was a regime thug that killed her?

522 Hawaii69  Fri, Jun 26, 2009 6:53:10pm

re: #521 rumcrook

why didnt the reporter say people are being axed to death, thrown from bridges by regime thugs, but its not possible it was a regime thug that killed her?

I’d think the CIA would be smart enough not to use their “special CIA ammunition you can’t get in Iran” when carrying out these covert missions.

523 Alcove-One  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 8:42:09am

This is the Iranian Amb. to Mexico who has got tit-for-tat revenge in his diluted and disturbed mind. We must take the US/Mexico border control seriously.


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