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1 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:16:42pm

Finished "tweaking your code", Charles?

(It's like "hiking the Appalachian Trail", only you're alone.)

2 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:17:07pm

If he put all the editing time into practicing....

3 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:17:32pm

Fauxclassical?

4 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:18:28pm

"Copyright 1786"

Heh.

5 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:19:17pm

"Suck at guitar?"

Why, yes. Yes I do.

And so, I'll bet, does our friend 'tartarsauce'.

6 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:19:24pm

I liked it, but The Peter and the Wolf Beatbox flute was cooler.

7 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:19:50pm

He's got nothing on this guy:

8 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:20:00pm

Fake but accurate....

9 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:20:14pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

I liked it, but The Peter and the Wolf Beatbox flute was cooler.

I like the grimacing.

10 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:20:38pm

re: #9 capitalist piglet

I like the grimacing.

And the hat.

11 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:21:55pm

I will pause once again to contemplate the wonder that is the World Wide Web.

No, seriously.

Years ago (cough), in my Constitutional Law class, my prof opined that an overly-literal interpretation of the 1st Amendment would require the government to ensure that everyone have equal access to t.v. and radio broadcasting.

I'll be damned if less than two decades later, we're not awfully close to that.
Pretty amazing.

12 james37211  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:21:59pm

I laughed. Hard. Thanks Charles

13 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:22:20pm

Kids today have it so easy. My first piece of "semi-serious" recording equipment was a vacuum tube TEAC reel to reel 4 track. Punching in and out was really tricky and often made loud pops. Bouncing tracks was done by plugging and patching cables. I still have it and it still works. Haven't used it in 10-15 years but I can't bring myself to sell. it.

14 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:23:13pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

If you ever do, make sure it's a collector who will respect it.

15 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:23:46pm

I wish I'd snagged my GrandDad's betamax. The Smithsonian might be interested.

16 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:24:42pm

Yeah, but can he do Chuck Berry's chicken walk?

17 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:25:22pm

Classical Gas.....

18 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:26:53pm

re: #14 Sharmuta

I'm thinking of forcing myself to part with it before I move to the boonies. Somebody here in the big city will appreciate it.

19 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:27:30pm

Hey y'all - are there any tech types out here - I NEED some help!

20 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:27:34pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Kids today have it so easy. My first piece of "semi-serious" recording equipment was a vacuum tube TEAC reel to reel 4 track. Punching in and out was really tricky and often made loud pops. Bouncing tracks was done by plugging and patching cables. I still have it and it still works. Haven't used it in 10-15 years but I can't bring myself to sell. it.

This is one reason firearms are so appealing. They don't get obsolete very quickly.

My Kimber M1911 clone is essentially the same model used by USMC Special Ops today. That that "1911" number is no coincidence.

21 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:28:05pm

re: #19 realwest

Hey y'all - are there any tech types out here - I NEED some help!

"We can rebuild him... make him better, stronger, faster..."

22 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:28:56pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Kids today have it so easy. My first piece of "semi-serious" recording equipment was a vacuum tube TEAC reel to reel 4 track. Punching in and out was really tricky and often made loud pops. Bouncing tracks was done by plugging and patching cables. I still have it and it still works. Haven't used it in 10-15 years but I can't bring myself to sell. it.

and you had to walk barefoot in the snow to get to the studio too!

23 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:29:00pm

re: #21 Occasional Reader
Thanks O.R.- but this is a serious problem for me.

24 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:29:05pm

If you haven't seen it yet, there's a link on Instapundit, which leads to a link on Taxprof Blog, which will give you this (warning, pdf file):

How Much Does President Obama’s
Budget Redistribute Income?

It's a special report from the Tax Foundation, complete with charts and graphs that will depress you.

Throughout last year’s presidential campaign
and continuing through President Obama’s
first two quarters in office, income redistribution
has been a hot-button topic among
policymakers, the media, and the general
public. The issue was explicitly brought to
the forefront of the campaign debate during
the now infamous exchange between then-
How Much Does President Obama’s
Budget Redistribute Income?
candidate Obama and “Joe the Plumber,”
who asked why the candidate wanted to tax
people like him who own a business that
makes $250,000. Obama replied, “... I think
when you spread the wealth around, it’s
good for everybody.”

Well, to be fair, he did warn us.

Key Findings:

• Families’ share of tax burdens is compared to their share of government benefits, by income class, yielding a comprehensive measure of income redistribution. Customarily, only tax burdens are analyzed by income class. We apply this framework to President Obama’s Fiscal Year 2010 Budget released in May.

• In FY 2012, when President Obama’s policies have taken effect, income redistribution from the top-earning 1 percent of families will rise by an average of $64,000 per family. Families in the 95th-99th percentiles would pay slightly more, almost $2,000 per family.

• On average, a family in the top 5 percent would have an additional 1.8 percent of its market income redistributed as a result of President Obama’s policies (compared to baseline); for the top 1 percent only, that figure is over 3 percent.

• President Obama’s policies would reduce the amount of income redistribution from families in the 60th-95th percentiles.

• President Obama’s policies would increase the amount of income redistribution to families in the bottom 60 percent of the population, especially the bottom 20 percent.

25 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:29:09pm

For anyone who missed the Peter and the Wolf video:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

26 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:29:14pm

re: #20 Occasional Reader

That that "1911" number is no coincidence.

[sideways look at my Dogfish Head 90 minute IPA]

Good thing I opted out of driving for movie night.

27 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:29:47pm

I guess this is a little like dictionaraoke.

28 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:29:53pm

re: #23 realwest

Thanks O.R.- but this is a serious problem for me.

If it's computer tech, I'm probably not the right guy to ask (to put it mildly). I'm sure some smarter lizard will ante up, though.

29 LionofDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:30:07pm

The Milli Vanilli of the Martin......

30 axegrinder  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:31:12pm

Very nice. One day I'll be able to play like that.

31 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:31:13pm

re: #20 Occasional Reader

I'm not a gun person and I'm not very confortable around them. Someone suggested I try out a black powder musket. It's probably less safe but for some reason has more appeal to me.

32 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:31:27pm

re: #22 Thanos

and you had to walk barefoot in the snow to get to the studio too!

Uphill, both ways.

33 callahan23  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:31:32pm

re: #21 Occasional Reader

"We can rebuild him... make him better, stronger, faster..."

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger.

Daft Hands
34 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:31:45pm

re: #22 Thanos

and you had to walk barefoot in the snow to get to the studio too!

And then Killgore had to clean the studio with his tongue. And when he got home, after working for 27 hours straight, his father would beat him to sleep.... [etc.]

35 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:31:51pm

re: #26 Occasional Reader

[sideways look at my Dogfish Head 90 minute IPA]

Good thing I opted out of driving for movie night.

You are closer to Dogfish than I am. When do they do their 120 minute? I don't want to miss when it hits my local speciality beer shop.

36 Zimriel  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:32:02pm

That's a lot of notes!

37 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:32:17pm

re: #19 realwest

Hey y'all - are there any tech types out here - I NEED some help!

Whassup?

38 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:32:20pm

Well, drat.

PIMF.

39 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:32:33pm

re: #17 jcm

He's like a big kid when he plays.

40 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:32:38pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

I'm not a gun person and I'm not very confortable around them. Someone suggested I try out a black powder musket. It's probably less safe but for some reason has more appeal to me.

Has the advantage of being able to hide behind the smoke if you miss

41 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:32:44pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

I'm not a gun person and I'm not very confortable around them. Someone suggested I try out a black powder musket. It's probably less safe but for some reason has more appeal to me.

First question: Have you ever fired one?

(And on the latter point; never done black powder, but I believe they are in general MUCH less safe.)

42 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:32:49pm

No Tech types out here AT ALL?!

43 DEZes  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:33:11pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

I'm not a gun person and I'm not very confortable around them. Someone suggested I try out a black powder musket. It's probably less safe but for some reason has more appeal to me.

Black powder can be dangerous as well, especially revolvers.

44 axegrinder  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:33:16pm

re: #36 Zimriel

That's a lot of notes!

It's just the right amount of notes...

45 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:33:29pm

re: #42 realwest

No Tech types out here AT ALL?!

What's the problem?

46 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:33:33pm

re: #35 jcm

You are closer to Dogfish than I am. When do they do their 120 minute? I don't want to miss when it hits my local speciality beer shop.

It's available here year-round (but pricey, 10 or 11 bucks a bottle). I don't think it's one of their seasonals, they make it year-round.

47 wiffersnapper  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:33:46pm

Great vid. I'm a recovering Guitar Hero junkie.

48 Zimriel  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:33:46pm

re: #7 BigPapa

He's got nothing on this guy:


Trent Reznor? That you?

49 DEZes  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:33:49pm

re: #42 realwest

No Tech types out here AT ALL?!

whats up?
I know a few things.

50 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:33:59pm

re: #37 jcm
AH jcm - thanks! Here's my problem - turned on 'puter and monitor didn't go on - just black screen (I'm using an old monitor now).

51 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:34:08pm

re: #36 Zimriel

That's a lot of notes!

That really was a very good film. Been years since I've seen it, I'll have to look out for it on cable.

52 callahan23  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:34:23pm

re: #42 realwest

No Tech types out here AT ALL?!

JCM and Steffan volunteered.

53 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:34:50pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

I'm not a gun person and I'm not very confortable around them. Someone suggested I try out a black powder musket. It's probably less safe but for some reason has more appeal to me.

Black powder is more fun, more "intimate" with the firearm, slower pace you appreciate each shot more.

54 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:34:58pm

I was in New York I going to a concert at Carnegie Hall and got lost. I asked a cop "how do I get to Carnegie Hall?" He said "practice."

Henny Youngman

55 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:35:57pm

re: #45 Steffan
Hey Steffan - as I said to jcm in my #50, when I turned on my 'puter the monitor wouldn't go on at all.

56 mikeymom  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:36:05pm

real--when that happens to me i unplug it--wait 30 secondsm, then replug. if nothing happens i yell--""MIKEYDAD!"" very loudly.

57 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:36:12pm

re: #53 jcm

Black powder is more fun, more "intimate" with the firearm, slower pace you appreciate each shot more.

[snap][pssssht][you admire the sunset for a bit]BANG!

58 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:36:25pm

re: #50 realwest

AH jcm - thanks! Here's my problem - turned on 'puter and monitor didn't go on - just black screen (I'm using an old monitor now).

Let's get the stupid questions out of the way. Was the monitor plugged into the power source and the 'puter, and was the switch on? Does that monitor have any accessible fuses?

59 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:36:58pm

My one and only serious piece of recording gear was a nakamichi cassette deck. It was perfect for live music recording in bars as long as you front ended with 8-10 mics, a pre-amp and a mixer. It was also freaking indestructible.

60 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:37:11pm

re: #41 Occasional Reader

First question: Have you ever fired one?


Nope.

61 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:37:30pm

Q.: What do you get when you drop a piano down a mineshaft?

A.: A Flat Miner

62 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:37:37pm

re: #54 LionOfDixon

I was in New York I going to a concert at Carnegie Hall and got lost. I asked a cop "how do I get to Carnegie Hall?" He said "practice."

Henny Youngman

Never heard that one before.

//////


(I love Carnegie Hall... thanks for the reminder. Have to see what's looking good there, and make a weekend out of it.)

63 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:38:14pm

re: #58 Steffan
Hey Steffan - Yes the monitor was plugged into both the power source and the computer - I don't know if there are accessible fuses or not.

64 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:38:15pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

Nope.

KILLGORE NEEDS A LIZARD MEETUP.

One of the more, mmm, "percussive" ones.

65 avanti  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:38:23pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

I'm not a gun person and I'm not very confortable around them. Someone suggested I try out a black powder musket. It's probably less safe but for some reason has more appeal to me.

I have one I built from a kit years ago, shot in once and put it in the closet. If you want to play, it's cheap.

66 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:38:50pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

KG, nothing like the giant puff of white smoke! Black powder shooting is fun. Been to a couple events, good clean hillbilly fun.

67 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:38:51pm

re: #50 realwest

AH jcm - thanks! Here's my problem - turned on 'puter and monitor didn't go on - just black screen (I'm using an old monitor now).

Look on the back, near where the power cord goes in. See if there's a circuit breaker (possibly a tiny red button or rod sticking out of a hole.) If so press it, then plug the monitor into a regular outlet -- making sure the front panel switch is turned on.

I you don't get nothin', the monitor has an internal problem.

68 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:39:35pm

re: #66 BigPapa

KG, nothing like the giant puff of white smoke! Black powder shooting is fun. Been to a couple events, good clean hillbilly fun.

Who do you take to that, a sister? A cousin?

69 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:39:46pm

re: #50 realwest

AH jcm - thanks! Here's my problem - turned on 'puter and monitor didn't go on - just black screen (I'm using an old monitor now).

Was it plugged in?
Was the cable to the PC fully inserted?
Does it have multiple inputs, and if so was it switched to the wrong one?
Did you try a different cable?

70 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:40:22pm

Some monitors have a circuit breaker button on the back, and some power sources have a circuit breaker button as well (let's get the non-expensive options out of the way). What's the make and model of your monitor?

71 avanti  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:40:33pm

re: #59 Thanos

My one and only serious piece of recording gear was a nakamichi cassette deck. It was perfect for live music recording in bars as long as you front ended with 8-10 mics, a pre-amp and a mixer. It was also freaking indestructible.

Revox A 77 I bought at the Navy exchange was my best.

72 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:40:47pm

re: #68 capitalist piglet

Who do you take to that, a sister? A cousin?

a case of beer?

73 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:40:51pm

re: #46 Occasional Reader

It's available here year-round (but pricey, 10 or 11 bucks a bottle). I don't think it's one of their seasonals, they make it year-round.

Ah, the beer shop said they only got it here, west coast, seasonly.

74 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:41:24pm

re: #67 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Nope, nothing resembling a circuit breaker.

75 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:41:25pm

re: #62 Occasional Reader

I always liked the story about Benny Goodman's 1938 Carnegie Hall Concert.....Right before the curtain went up, Harry James, sitting in the trumpet section, said "I feel like a whore in a church."

76 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:41:41pm

re: #57 Occasional Reader

[snap][pssssht][you admire the sunset for a bit]BANG!

Then wave your hand to clear the smoke, put the rifle butt on the ground and watch the ball go down range.

77 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:42:08pm

What is the fascination with the game guitar hero anyway? I don't get it.

78 snowcrash  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:42:26pm

re: #27 capitalist piglet

I guess this is a little like dictionaraoke.


How funny! Bookmarked it listen to more songs later.

79 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:42:46pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

Nope.

Seriously... find your nearest range, find a friend who's qualified, get over there with him/her, and put a box or two through, say, a 9mm (after appropriate basic safety instruction). You may be surprised how quickly you get comfortable.

I met a former Green Beret a few years back who recounted a story about when he was posted to some location in Central America that was near a beach. They were training the local guys, lots of open-air shooting. One day, some people from the nearby Rich Hippie Gringo colony showed up, threatened legal action if all that icky gun noise didn't cease. The Green Berets... being "think outside the box" types... instead invited the rich hippies for some range time.

After that, the biggest problem the Green Berets faced with the rich hippies was keeping them OFF the range!

80 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:43:24pm

re: #74 realwest

Nope, nothing resembling a circuit breaker.

(backing up) does it have a standard power cord, with a 3-prong AC plug -- in addition to the data/video cable?

81 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:44:32pm

re: #77 Thanos

The genius of Guitar Hero is that it allows average, minimally talented people to emulate famous, minimally talented people.

82 DEZes  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:44:47pm

re: #80 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(backing up) does it have a standard power cord, with a 3-prong AC plug -- in addition to the data/video cable?

I was just wondering if he even had an indicator light on the monitor?

83 astronmr20  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:44:48pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Kids today have it so easy. My first piece of "semi-serious" recording equipment was a vacuum tube TEAC reel to reel 4 track. Punching in and out was really tricky and often made loud pops. Bouncing tracks was done by plugging and patching cables. I still have it and it still works. Haven't used it in 10-15 years but I can't bring myself to sell it.

Let me know when you want to!

84 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:44:51pm

re: #69 Thanos
and
re: #70 Steffan
First of all, I touched nothing on the monitor when I shut down the computer a while ago. I checked and the power cord was properly (still) plugged into the computer and a seperate cord from monitor to power strip was also properly plugged in.
The monitor is an LG Flatron 19 or 20" monitor (I forget which) but the light at the bottom of the monitor in the front didn't turn on either.

85 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:45:04pm

re: #50 realwest

AH jcm - thanks! Here's my problem - turned on 'puter and monitor didn't go on - just black screen (I'm using an old monitor now).

See Thanos at 69 for a start....

Did you hear a FIZZIT when you turned it on.

Any other monitors? You can swap it with?

If you can't get one going I've got a ton of CRTs in storage, I can ship you one no problem, we've replaced most of ours with LCDs.

86 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:45:37pm

re: #77 Thanos

What is the fascination with the game guitar hero anyway? I don't get it.

I have to say, I've had a ball playing... not that one, but similar (what's the other one? Rock something?)... with my nephews.

87 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:45:42pm

re: #81 LionOfDixon

The genius of Guitar Hero is that it allows average, minimally talented people to emulate famous, minimally talented people.

and that is good because?

88 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:45:43pm

re: #84 realwest

and
re: #70 Steffan
First of all, I touched nothing on the monitor when I shut down the computer a while ago. I checked and the power cord was properly (still) plugged into the computer and a seperate cord from monitor to power strip was also properly plugged in.
The monitor is an LG Flatron 19 or 20" monitor (I forget which) but the light at the bottom of the monitor in the front didn't turn on either.

Sounds like it needs to go into a shop -- internal problem.

89 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:45:48pm

re: #68 capitalist piglet

Who do you take to that, a sister? A cousin?

Aksed me cuzin, wouldn't go. She likeyed anvil firins mo betta.

More fun than fishin with dynamite.

90 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:45:50pm

re: #80 pre-Boomer Marine brat Yep. And it was plugged in. I even pulled that plug and put it into another socket still nada.

91 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:46:55pm

re: #90 realwest

Yep. And it was plugged in. I even pulled that plug and put it into another socket still nada.

See my number 88

92 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:46:57pm

re: #79 Occasional Reader

Heh. I do plan to take up archery again someday. Once the economy improves I'm hoping to move to a rural area and I'll probably want to have a gun in the house. I'm not sure if I'll take up hunting, maybe I'll just buy game meat from the locals.

93 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:47:10pm

re: #85 jcm Sigh. I'm using an old 15" Dell monitor right now.

94 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:47:51pm

re: #84 realwest

and
re: #70 Steffan
First of all, I touched nothing on the monitor when I shut down the computer a while ago. I checked and the power cord was properly (still) plugged into the computer and a seperate cord from monitor to power strip was also properly plugged in.
The monitor is an LG Flatron 19 or 20" monitor (I forget which) but the light at the bottom of the monitor in the front didn't turn on either.

Double check the outlet is live, a lamp or something you use to check easily.

If the outlet is live and the power cord is plugged the lack of little light on the front lends to an internal power supply that died.

95 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:48:03pm

re: #68 capitalist piglet

Who do you take to that, a sister? A cousin?

Wut if yer sister IZ yer cuzin?

96 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:48:27pm

re: #84 realwest

and
re: #70 Steffan
First of all, I touched nothing on the monitor when I shut down the computer a while ago. I checked and the power cord was properly (still) plugged into the computer and a seperate cord from monitor to power strip was also properly plugged in.
The monitor is an LG Flatron 19 or 20" monitor (I forget which) but the light at the bottom of the monitor in the front didn't turn on either.

Some monitors have heat switches in them, try unplugging it and plugging it back in, see if the light comes on at any point during the process. Plug it into a different outlet, and test the power strip.

97 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:49:00pm

re: #94 jcm Um the monitor I'm using is plugged into the exact same plugs (power and monitor) that the LG Flatron was.

98 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:49:12pm

re: #89 BigPapa

Mo betta anvil firing with soundtrack!

99 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:49:43pm

re: #96 Thanos
Thanks Thanos, but please see my #97.

100 astronmr20  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:49:59pm

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sounds like it needs to go into a shop -- internal problem.

Power supply.

101 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:50:28pm

re: #98 BigPapa

That scenario just has "Wile E. Coyote" written all over it.

102 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:50:30pm

re: #97 realwest

Um the monitor I'm using is plugged into the exact same plugs (power and monitor) that the LG Flatron was.

Ugh, no little LED light on the front. Sounds like the primary power supply inside the monitor.

103 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:50:52pm

re: #99 realwest

Thanks Thanos, but please see my #97.

Ok you should still try plugging it in solo to see if the light comes on, and check power switch on it.

104 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:51:06pm

re: #100 astronmr20
What about the power supply - I'm using an old Dell 15" monitor with the computer and it's (knock on wood) working just fine.

105 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:51:24pm

re: #97 realwest

Typically the screen will be black if there's no video data coming in.
However, at initial turn-on, it should show something like "No input" for several second ... and THEN go black.

If you didn't have a pilot light at turn-on, that says the main power supply inside the monitor is kaflooey.

106 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:51:27pm

re: #87 brookly red

It's great because Junior can pretend he's Jimi Hendrix but without all the muss and fuss of drug overdoses, "creative demons" and herpes-laden groupies.

107 SixDegrees  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:51:31pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Heh. I do plan to take up archery again someday. Once the economy improves I'm hoping to move to a rural area and I'll probably want to have a gun in the house. I'm not sure if I'll take up hunting, maybe I'll just buy game meat from the locals.

Out of practice longbowman here. Started with a compound, dropped down to a recurve, dropped down from there to the longbow, and I've stayed there ever since. The simpler it is, the more skill is required, but it's more satisfying. And dead quiet, too.

I guess the next step is throwing rocks. Maybe with a stop at an atlatl along the way.

108 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:52:07pm

re: #103 Thanos
When you say plugging it in solo, do you mean just the power plug into the circuit breaker/power strip?

109 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:53:16pm

re: #105 pre-Boomer Marine brat Ah, there's the tech term I was searching for - kaflooey! LOL!

110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:53:28pm

re: #108 realwest

Did you exchange carbon credits?

111 astronmr20  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:53:38pm

To whomever has the monitor problem;

It's likely the power supply.

112 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:53:44pm

re: #108 realwest

When you say plugging it in solo, do you mean just the power plug into the circuit breaker/power strip?

That's what he meant, with just the 3-prong AC plug connected.

113 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:53:53pm
114 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:54:00pm

re: #83 astronmr20

Let me know when you want to!

It's a Teac a-3340s.
Shipping would cost you a fortune. The damn thing's 50 or 60 pounds.

115 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:54:16pm

re: #84 realwest

and
re: #70 Steffan
First of all, I touched nothing on the monitor when I shut down the computer a while ago. I checked and the power cord was properly (still) plugged into the computer and a seperate cord from monitor to power strip was also properly plugged in.
The monitor is an LG Flatron 19 or 20" monitor (I forget which) but the light at the bottom of the monitor in the front didn't turn on either.

Well, it's a CRT, which is a lot easier and cheaper to fix than an LCD monitor. For what it's worth, the manual can be found here, but you'll have to download Djvu Viewer to access it. (there's a link on the page

116 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:54:20pm

re: #81 LionOfDixon
How is that different than Air Guitar?

117 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:54:27pm

re: #106 LionOfDixon

It's great because Junior can pretend he's Jimi Hendrix but without all the muss and fuss of drug overdoses, "creative demons" and herpes-laden groupies.

Oh, OK... I thought you said minimally talented. That's different.

118 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:55:31pm

re: #104 realwest

What about the power supply - I'm using an old Dell 15" monitor with the computer and it's (knock on wood) working just fine.

There a transformer and inverter inside CRT monitors that change the incoming 120V AC to various DC voltages inside the monitor.

Some of that stuff died.

Seriously, I've got a bunch of perfectly good CRT monitors sitting on a shelf, if you can wait for FEDEX ground I'll send one your way.

119 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:55:47pm

re: #109 realwest

Ah, there's the tech term I was searching for - kaflooey! LOL!

Mind you, "kaflooey" is only used when there was no smoke and flame.

In the other case, you call it "kablooey" (that is, AFTER you call the fire department.)

120 astronmr20  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:56:42pm

re: #114 Killgore Trout

It's a Teac a-3340s.
Shipping would cost you a fortune. The damn thing's 50 or 60 pounds.

Yup! I'm well-familiar with 'em (:

121 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:57:30pm

re: #115 Steffan Um, it's a flat screen monitor that's about 3 years old + or - a couple of months.
And even if I downloaded the manual what the heck would I do with it, given that I am such a tech tard?
AND what I really don't get is I shut it down normally and don't keep it on when it's not in use!

122 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:58:15pm

re: #118 jcm
Uh, jcm, could y'all send me an e-mail please?

123 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:58:17pm

re: #116 realwest

When a kid, or god forbid an adult, plays air guitar, he looks gay. When a kid play or adult plays Guitar Hero, they still look gay, but at least someone, somewhere is making money. So, it's good for the economy, even though the GQ (gayness quotient) of the country as a whole increases. Its all about the economy.

124 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:58:20pm

re: #118 jcm

There a transformer and inverter inside CRT monitors that change the incoming 120V AC to various DC voltages inside the monitor.

Some of that stuff died.

Seriously, I've got a bunch of perfectly good CRT monitors sitting on a shelf, if you can wait for FEDEX ground I'll send one your way.

That happened to me once. I hit the power switch and all of a sudden "BZZZZZT! crackle crackle." It failed the smoke test in a new and interesting way. That was my last CRT.

125 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:59:08pm

re: #83 astronmr20

More specs here: TEAC A-3340S. I just have the machine, not the accessories listed on the side bar.

126 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:59:14pm

re: #121 realwest

Um, it's a flat screen monitor that's about 3 years old + or - a couple of months.
And even if I downloaded the manual what the heck would I do with it, given that I am such a tech tard?
AND what I really don't get is I shut it down normally and don't keep it on when it's not in use!

Hmmm. Sorry about that, I must have been looking at the wrong page. What's the model number?

127 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:59:54pm

re: #108 realwest

When you say plugging it in solo, do you mean just the power plug into the circuit breaker/power strip?

Yes. push the cord securely into the back, plug it in without the computer cable hooked up, flip the power switch a couple times to see if you can get a light or power on response on screen

128 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:00:10pm

re: #123 LionOfDixon

When a kid, or god forbid an adult, plays air guitar, he looks gay. When a kid play or adult plays Guitar Hero, they still look gay, but at least someone, somewhere is making money. So, it's good for the economy, even though the GQ (gayness quotient) of the country as a whole increases. Its all about the economy.

Errr, not so much...

129 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:02:12pm

re: #122 realwest

Uh, jcm, could y'all send me an e-mail please?

On the way.

130 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:03:04pm

re: #124 Steffan

That happened to me once. I hit the power switch and all of a sudden "BZZZZZT! crackle crackle." It failed the smoke test in a new and interesting way. That was my last CRT.

Mid-Fifties, a selenium rectifier (an early semiconductor type, used as the main power supply rectifier) blew out in my family's B&W TV. The TV had a peforated rear cover, for ventilation. When the smoke cleared (literally), there was a similar pattern of debris on the living room wall behind the TV.

131 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:03:21pm

re: #126 Steffan
Sorry, but my eyesight ain't that good - without going to get a mangifying glass, all I can tell ya is it says LG Flatron, 1400:1, Digital Flat Contrast, Energy Star Rated.

132 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:04:04pm

re: #121 realwest

Um, it's a flat screen monitor that's about 3 years old + or - a couple of months.
And even if I downloaded the manual what the heck would I do with it, given that I am such a tech tard?
AND what I really don't get is I shut it down normally and don't keep it on when it's not in use!

Flat screen or flat pane?

Is it only a few inches thick or is it flat screen and a foot thick?

133 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:04:33pm

re: #132 jcm

Flat screen or flat pane?

Is it only a few inches thick or is it flat screen and a foot thick?

Panel... PIMF

134 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:04:57pm

re: #116 realwest

How is that different than Air Guitar?

Did you know that they actually have air guitar contests? It's true.

This "What's the Point?" Moment™ brought to you by a frustrated R&B singer.

135 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:05:03pm

re: #120 astronmr20

If you're interested we can talk. I really don't want to sell it but I'm probably never going to use it again. It should go to somebody who'll use it. I quick google search shows that they really aren't that expensive. We can probably work something out.

136 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:05:14pm

re: #133 jcm

Panel... PIMF

Yep, that was a pane, wasn't it.

/*diving for foxhole*

137 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:05:56pm

re: #132 jcm

Flat screen or flat pane?

Is it only a few inches thick or is it flat screen and a foot thick?

Flatron, LCD panel.....

138 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:06:51pm

re: #134 capitalist piglet

The really, really untalented people with not one iota of musical acumen may want to look into "Cowbell Hero."

139 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:07:31pm

re: #132 jcm
Flat Screen, only about 3" thick near center of monitor.
And I received and replied to your e-mail, thanks!

140 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:08:34pm

re: #137 jcm

Did you get a convertor box? You know they stopped broadcasting in analog on June 12 of this year....

(sorry, but I couldn't resist)

141 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:08:40pm

BTW, I've got a Dual 1229 turntable packed away. (Don't have a top-grade cartridge in it -- a Stanton 500E IIRC.) Should work fine, though the idler pully probable is somewhat hardened by now.

Anyone into turntables?

142 Randall Gross  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:08:45pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

If you're interested we can talk. I really don't want to sell it but I'm probably never going to use it again. It should go to somebody who'll use it. I quick google search shows that they really aren't that expensive. We can probably work something out.

This is similar to the deck I had, but not quite the same

[Link: www.classicaudio.com...]

I would have gone 4 track, but needed something to make tapes for the car with. I sold it to pay for one of the kid's dental appts.

143 chippy  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:09:29pm

re: #134 capitalist piglet

So who's the lucky guy who got his pic on wiki as the "example of air guitar"?

144 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:10:22pm

Ok, let's try that again. The manual is here (pdf file) but isn't all that helpful. It basically goes over everything we've covered so far.

It does suggest pressing the "menu" button three or four times to see if you get a response.

145 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:11:11pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Kids today have it so easy. My first piece of "semi-serious" recording equipment was a vacuum tube TEAC reel to reel 4 track. Punching in and out was really tricky and often made loud pops. Bouncing tracks was done by plugging and patching cables. I still have it and it still works. Haven't used it in 10-15 years but I can't bring myself to sell. it.

I still have a one-track tape recorder that was "made under original 1948 patents". It is a strange beast, but worked years ago.

146 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:11:28pm

re: #138 LionOfDixon

The really, really untalented people with not one iota of musical acumen may want to look into "Cowbell Hero."

Do not hate on the cowbell. I personally have madd cowbell skillz. (I used to sing background vocals in a band with another woman who wouldn't touch the thing...but the drummer eagerly gave it to me. I'm telling you, MADD SKILLZ.)

147 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:12:34pm

re: #144 Steffan
Thanks Steffan - is JCM right that it's an LCD panel?
And btw, I did hit the menu button twice, but as I said the stupid monitor wasn't ON. There's a small light at the bottom right corner that is a sorta amber/yellowish when it's on and it wasn't on.
And clearly it's not the computer!

148 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:12:56pm

re: #144 Steffan

Ok, let's try that again. The manual is here (pdf file) but isn't all that helpful. It basically goes over everything we've covered so far.

It does suggest pressing the "menu" button three or four times to see if you get a response.

"The main power breaker is the power cord."

149 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:13:11pm

Uh, jcm - y'all still out here?!

150 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:13:38pm

re: #145 Kosh's Shadow

I still have a one-track tape recorder that was "made under original 1948 patents". It is a strange beast, but worked years ago.

What brand?

151 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:14:55pm

re: #146 capitalist piglet

Do not hate on the cowbell. I personally have madd cowbell skillz. (I used to sing background vocals in a band with another woman who wouldn't touch the thing...but the drummer eagerly gave it to me. I'm telling you, MADD SKILLZ.)

why exactly did people put bells on cows anyway? I can see it on cats, but it is not like a cow can sneak up on anything...

152 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:15:05pm

re: #146 capitalist piglet

I'm not hatin on the cowbell. In fact I have great admiration for all forms of musical animal husbandry equipment.

153 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:15:37pm

re: #147 realwest

Thanks Steffan - is JCM right that it's an LCD panel?
And btw, I did hit the menu button twice, but as I said the stupid monitor wasn't ON. There's a small light at the bottom right corner that is a sorta amber/yellowish when it's on and it wasn't on.
And clearly it's not the computer!

That's your power indicator for the monitor letting you know it's alive... or it thinks it's alive. Try hooking it back up to your computer, doublechecking all of the connections.

Main power breaker is the power cord and this breaking device must be located at a location where it is easy to operate.

154 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:15:47pm

re: #150 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What brand?

The ancient tape recorder isn't made by anyone I remember. And it is buried in the basement right now. Can't go looking for it today.

155 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:16:08pm

re: #143 chippy

So who's the lucky guy who got his pic on wiki as the "example of air guitar"?

Kind of weird picture. He is apparently "playing" with blazing speed, though, because his right hand is a total blur. A regular Al Di Meola right there.

156 Catttt  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:17:13pm

Went shopping - found out there's a Fresh Market five minutes away. Parked my 12-year old beat-up truck amidst beamers and etc. Prices on meat and veggies CHEAPER there.

Clerk hates Bank of America, likes Wachovia, has a CD - recommended mutual funds and find out if the company has a retirement plan (she was really young). Can't help myself.

Eating fresh California roll sushi and feeling guilty - cats watching and waiting.

Good news, cats - bought a porterhouse steak and tuna.

157 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:17:44pm

re: #149 realwest

Uh, jcm - y'all still out here?!

Yeah, off looking at monitor stuff...

158 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:18:15pm

re: #155 capitalist piglet

It looks like that dude had a lot of practice at another activity that requires rapid, repetitive up and down motions of the hand.

159 Catttt  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:18:48pm

OMG I love fresh ginger - yom yom yom.

160 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:19:29pm

re: #154 Kosh's Shadow

The ancient tape recorder isn't made by anyone I remember. And it is buried in the basement right now. Can't go looking for it today.

No problem.
Just curious.
You might have it assessed by someone who know electronic antiques.

161 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:20:11pm

re: #159 Catttt

I too love fresh Ginger. She was so much sexier than prude Mary Ann.

162 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:20:15pm

re: #156 Catttt

re: fresh sushi.

please don't eat any other kind, just sayin...

163 avanti  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:20:18pm

re: #154 Kosh's Shadow

The ancient tape recorder isn't made by anyone I remember. And it is buried in the basement right now. Can't go looking for it today.

I recall a old Roberts before they decided Akai was OK, and a old Dokorder Dub a Deck that would dupe reel to reels. I'm old enough to have owned a wire recorder too :)

164 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:20:54pm

re: #153 Steffan
Thanks Steffan. I don't know what the hell to do here.
I'm not as strong as I used to be due to a variety of things and picking up and putting down and plugging in and pluggingout just to check something I've already checked is just WORK for me.
Sigh.
Can you tell me from the manual is it an LCD monitor?

165 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:21:04pm

re: #151 brookly red

why exactly did people put bells on cows anyway? I can see it on cats, but it is not like a cow can sneak up on anything...

Gary Larson used to shop at a music store where I worked. I should have asked him, 'cause I'll bet he'd know.

166 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:21:26pm

re: #152 LionOfDixon

I'm not hatin on the cowbell. In fact I have great admiration for all forms of musical animal husbandry equipment.

What would a vibraslap classify as?

167 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:22:49pm

re: #165 capitalist piglet

Gary Larson used to shop at a music store where I worked. I should have asked him, 'cause I'll bet he'd know.

I guess something are better left unknown.

168 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:23:15pm

re: #145 Kosh's Shadow

I still have a one-track tape recorder that was "made under original 1948 patents". It is a strange beast, but worked years ago.

I was just looking at my reel to reel and found that I have one of those Edison wax cylinder recorders too. It looks circa 1945-1950. One of the cylinders still has a barely audible recording of some guy talking. He's probably dead. Kinda creepy.

169 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:23:27pm

jcm or Steffan - can either of you tell me is this an LCD or CRT monitor?

170 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:23:38pm

re: #166 BigPapa

An invention of the devil himself?

171 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:24:30pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

I was just looking at my reel to reel and found that I have one of those Edison wax cylinder recorders too. It looks circa 1945-1950. One of the cylinders still has a barely audible recording of some guy talking. He's probably dead. Kinda creepy.

what's he sayin?

172 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:24:50pm

re: #164 realwest

Thanks Steffan. I don't know what the hell to do here.
I'm not as strong as I used to be due to a variety of things and picking up and putting down and plugging in and pluggingout just to check something I've already checked is just WORK for me.
Sigh.
Can you tell me from the manual is it an LCD monitor?

Yeppers. It's an LCD. Unfortunately, there's nothing inside it that's user-serviceable. Did you smell any scorched plastic?

If the light was amber when it was hooked up to the computer there's something wrong with the connection to the computer. One thing you might try, if the two cables are compatible (odds are they're not), is swapping cables with the Dell monitor and seeing if it passes the smoke test.

173 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:25:17pm

re: #167 brookly red

I guess something are better left unknown.

Yes, as LionOfDixon demonstrated quite clearly in post #158.

174 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:25:28pm

re: #167 brookly red

Beginning in the 1920's, bells were placed around the necks of a cows by drunken farmboys in order to add an aural component to the pastime of cow-tipping.

175 SlartyBartfast  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:25:53pm

Misleading AP Photo of the day?

I worked at a coal-fired power plant when I was in college. The only time smoke came from the the smokestack was when the boiler was being "fired" (using wood and diesel oil). Once it was up and running on straight coal, there was no smoke.

If the plant manager ever saw smoke (and he could see the plant from his house), he'd be down there in a flash: "What the Hell is going on here?!?"

Plus, the clouds in the background--just clouds.

176 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:26:08pm

re: #163 avanti

I'm old enough to have owned a wire recorder too :)

*GASP*
.... *recovering composure*
........... *genuflecting respectfully*

/heh, I bought an Akai in Yoko in '66

177 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:26:25pm

re: #171 brookly red

I can't tell. I listened to a few minutes but he started to give me the creeps so I turned it off.

178 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:27:20pm

re: #174 LionOfDixon

Beginning in the 1920's, bells were placed around the necks of a cows by drunken farmboys in order to add an aural component to the pastime of cow-tipping.

I am guessing you were better off with that repetitive motion stuff...

179 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:27:26pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

I was just looking at my reel to reel and found that I have one of those Edison wax cylinder recorders too. It looks circa 1945-1950. One of the cylinders still has a barely audible recording of some guy talking. He's probably dead. Kinda creepy.

That's probably older than that.

180 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:28:19pm

re: #169 realwest

jcm or Steffan - can either of you tell me is this an LCD or CRT monitor?

A CRT monitor wouldn't be only a few inches front to back.
no way

181 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:28:42pm

re: #169 realwest

jcm or Steffan - can either of you tell me is this an LCD or CRT monitor?

An LCD, I looked on the LG web site. A CRT is one of the big heavy glass tube types a foot thick behind the screen.

182 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:28:45pm

re: #177 Killgore Trout

I can't tell. I listened to a few minutes but he started to give me the creeps so I turned it off.

try playing it backwards... ron paul, ron paul, ron paul... ;)

183 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:28:55pm

re: #179 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I don't think so. It's not one of those cool ones in a nice oak case. It's metal, was probably sold as an office dictaphone or something.

184 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:29:08pm

re: #182 brookly red

Lol

185 LionOfDixon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:29:15pm

re: #178 brookly red

I was.....I used to be an expert fly-caster. What activity were you thinking of?

186 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:29:25pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

I don't think so. It's not one of those cool ones in a nice oak case. It's metal, was probably sold as an office dictaphone or something.

Ah ha!

187 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:29:28pm

re: #172 Steffan
Sorry Steffan I just can't switch the cables - the one on this Dell is hardwired into the Dell Monitor.
Crap.
And I gotta go eat dinner so I don't miss my meds.
Thanks for trying to help - I really appreciate it.

188 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:29:42pm

re: #175 SlartyBartfast

Judging by the light on the clouds, it's early morning and they're firing up.

You'll note that they don't run any pictures of Chinese plants.

189 albusteve  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:29:47pm

re: #177 Killgore Trout

redrum redrum

190 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:30:11pm

re: #182 brookly red

try playing it backwards... ron paul, ron paul, ron paul... ;)

LMAO

191 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:30:26pm

re: #187 realwest

Sorry Steffan I just can't switch the cables - the one on this Dell is hardwired into the Dell Monitor.
Crap.
And I gotta go eat dinner so I don't miss my meds.
Thanks for trying to help - I really appreciate it.

De nada. I jujst wish I could have been of more help.

192 realwest  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:31:11pm

re: #181 jcm
Hi jcm - just sent you another e-mail - as I just told Steffan I HAVE to eat NOW so I can take my meds.
There was no smoke, no pop,no fizzle, sucker just wouldn't start up.
Crap.
Thanks for your help too - and y'all might want to check your e-mails!

193 VegasRick  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:31:38pm

re: #171 brookly red

what's he sayin?

"Only Ron Paul supporters go to Tea Parties", very low, can barely hear the guy.
/

194 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:33:18pm

re: #185 LionOfDixon

I was.....I used to be an expert fly-caster. What activity were you thinking of?


well your 158, I assumed there is no fly-caster hero game...

195 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:33:19pm

re: #192 realwest

Hi jcm - just sent you another e-mail - as I just told Steffan I HAVE to eat NOW so I can take my meds.
There was no smoke, no pop,no fizzle, sucker just wouldn't start up.
Crap.
Thanks for your help too - and y'all might want to check your e-mails!

There might well be an internal fuse which blew (wired into the circuit), often is, but you don't wanna go in looking for it.

196 freetoken  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:33:42pm

re: #193 VegasRick

Latent Ron Paul supporters, maybe...

197 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:33:50pm

re: #186 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Here it is: Edison Voice Writer

198 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:33:56pm

Damnit! The hook on the back of my copy of Boucher's Venus and Cupid just broke, fell and hit the floor. Thankfully, the glass in the frame didn't break.

199 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:35:10pm

re: #193 VegasRick

"Only Ron Paul supporters go to Tea Parties", very low, can barely hear the guy.
/


/and the bith certificate is, ackkkk............................................

200 albusteve  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:35:26pm

re: #197 Killgore Trout

Here it is: Edison Voice Writer

museum piece....sell it to a collector

201 VegasRick  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:35:30pm

re: #196 freetoken

Latent Ron Paul supporters, maybe...

Well, better than Latex Ron Paul supporters.

202 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:36:25pm

re: #197 Killgore Trout

Here it is: Edison Voice Writer

SHEESH!
Older than what I was thinking of!

May not be of much monetary value, but some museum somewhere might love to have it.

203 VegasRick  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:37:50pm

re: #199 brookly red

/and the bith certificate is, ackkkk............................................

Al Capone's vault.

204 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:38:41pm

re: #202 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I doubt it's a museum piece. The cool ones from the 20's might be but it's a generic piece of office equipment from the 40's or 50's. Probably not worth much.

205 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:38:42pm

re: #182 brookly red

... ron paul, ron paul, ron paul...

Wouldn't that be mo...er... paulron, paulron, paulron?

'Quit being such a paulron!'

206 freetoken  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:39:13pm

Since this thread is about brilliant imitations... I see WND is still on the eBay auction of the supposedly real Obama birth certificate.

And here I thought that neutron stars were the densest material in the universe....

207 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:40:33pm

re: #205 BigPapa

Wouldn't that be mo...er... paulron, paulron, paulron?

'Quit being such a paulron!'

well, laup nor, laup nor, actually but it's getting kinda played...

208 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:41:23pm

re: #204 Killgore Trout

I doubt it's a museum piece. The cool ones from the 20's might be but it's a generic piece of office equipment from the 40's or 50's. Probably not worth much.

You're right, if that 1948 date is on it.

Still .... that sort of stuff probably hasn't survived. It'd be worth something in a display of the progress of technology.

209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:41:28pm

Watching "Independence Day". Kind of a crappy movie. But, fun as heck to watch.

210 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:42:17pm

must. get. beer.....

211 VegasRick  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:42:35pm

OMG! I just went to FOXNEWS.com - Michael Jackson has DIED!
*enough already

212 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:43:33pm

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Watching "Independence Day". Kind of a crappy movie. But, fun as heck to watch.

I was reading up on catnip. I think you're having more fun.

213 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:43:52pm

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Watching "Independence Day". Kind of a crappy movie. But, fun as heck to watch.

It DOES has its moments!

As sci-fi, it's utter "hollywood", but I do watch my copy every now and then.

214 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:44:35pm

re: #207 brookly red

well, laup nor, laup nor, actually but it's getting kinda played...

I had to search but now I know what luap nor is. Gotta love a joke that keeps getting laughed at.

215 Zimriel  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:45:06pm

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Watching "Independence Day". Kind of a crappy movie. But, fun as heck to watch.

Funniest (retroactive) moment: in SG-1 episode "Politics" -

Dr. Daniel Jackson: Senator, we have reason to believe that the Goa'uld are about to launch an attack, in force, in ships.
Senator Robert Kinsey: Then I think they'll regret taking on the United States military.
Jack O'Neill: Oh, for God's sake!
Dr. Daniel Jackson: Oh, you're right. We'll - we'll just upload a computer virus into the mothership.

It's even funnier when you remember the whole series is a "Stargate" spinoff...

216 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:46:17pm

re: #214 BigPapa

I had to search but now I know what luap nor is. Gotta love a joke that keeps getting laughed at.

*grin*
Yeah, we just luap that sort of stuff up around here.

217 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:47:20pm

re: #195 pre-Boomer Marine brat

There might well be an internal fuse which blew (wired into the circuit), often is, but you don't wanna go in looking for it.

I'd do it in heart beat, but that's not an option.

email on the way...

218 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:47:48pm

re: #211 VegasRick

OMG! I just went to FOXNEWS.com - Michael Jackson has DIED!
*enough already

Who?

219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:47:52pm

re: #211 VegasRick

Rick? Get used to it. Should die down in time for the Macy's Day Parade.

I'm guessing the Estate will make a load of money.

220 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:48:30pm

re: #216 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*grin*
Yeah, we just luap that sort of stuff up around here.

Or just easily amused.........

221 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:48:35pm

re: #217 jcm

I'd do it in heart beat, but that's not an option.

email on the way...

Got it!
Good idea.
Let me know if I can help.

222 Catttt  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:48:46pm

re: #213 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It DOES has its moments!

As sci-fi, it's utter "hollywood", but I do watch my copy every now and then.

I know a stuck-up guy at work who insisted he had never seen a Will Smith flick. I said "Not even Independence Day"? He had to admit he had seen that, but it probably was accidental. :D

I love that movie - guilty pleasure. Welcome to Earth!

223 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:49:19pm

re: #208 pre-Boomer Marine brat

My favorite antique is a cecilian gramophone. It's old and so rare I can't even find a pic of it on the web. That might be worth something.

224 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:49:38pm

re: #220 jcm

Or just easily amused.........

*rolls eyes, saliva dripping on keyboard*
Nyuck nyuck nyuck!

225 albusteve  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:50:01pm

re: #219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Rick? Get used to it. Should die down in time for the Macy's Day Parade.

I'm guessing the Estate will make a load of money.

he willed his share of Beatles music back to P McCartney...bad move....couple hundres mil right there at least....bad move MJ

226 Catttt  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:50:23pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout

My favorite antique is a cecilian gramophone. It's old and so rare I can't even find a pic of it on the web. That might be worth something.

Did you search ebay - including closed auctions? I find they have a HUGE attic there.

227 VegasRick  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:50:23pm

re: #218 jcm

re: #219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

One of the reason I stopped reading the newspaper is that it was kinda stupid reading yesterday's news today. This is quickly becoming obsessive.

228 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:50:24pm

'It was so sad, like a part of yourself is gone'

"When I first heard about it, I was devastated," said Lori Matsuoka, 46, of Kapolei. "It was so sad, like a part of yourself is gone. I grew up listening to his music, so it was like my whole life flashed before me."

229 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:51:33pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout

My favorite antique is a cecilian gramophone. It's old and so rare I can't even find a pic of it on the web. That might be worth something.

"cecilian" ?!?!

/hmmm ... ask the dalmation, maybe he's "heard of it" ... :D

230 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:52:08pm

re: #221 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Got it!
Good idea.
Let me know if I can help.

Will do.

231 albusteve  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:52:25pm

re: #228 BigPapa

'It was so sad, like a part of yourself is gone'

"When I first heard about it, I was devastated," said Lori Matsuoka, 46, of Kapolei. "It was so sad, like a part of yourself is gone. I grew up listening to his music, so it was like my whole life flashed before me."

that's honest...I can relate

232 albusteve  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:53:18pm

re: #231 albusteve


well, not my whole life

233 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:53:24pm

re: #219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm guessing the Estate will make a load of money.

I'm sure we're going to see a new slough of 'best hits' and stuff to keep the cash coming in. Debts need to be paid.

234 Zimriel  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:53:25pm

Censorware in China: "Those methods range from directing stealthy technological attacks that shut down dissident websites to unleashing swarms of paid commentators to argue the government position on supposedly independent blogs."

Boy, I'm glad our party of government would never stoop so low here. /axelrod

235 VegasRick  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:53:46pm

re: #228 BigPapa

'It was so sad, like a part of yourself is gone'

"When I first heard about it, I was devastated," said Lori Matsuoka, 46, of Kapolei. "It was so sad, like a part of yourself is gone. I grew up listening to his music, so it was like my whole life flashed before me."


Type of person that would bury their dead goldfish in the backyard.

236 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:53:51pm

re: #222 Catttt

I know a stuck-up guy at work who insisted he had never seen a Will Smith flick. I said "Not even Independence Day"? He had to admit he had seen that, but it probably was accidental. :D

I love that movie - guilty pleasure. Welcome to Earth!

I love it for the human elements, fast-forward through the "sci-fi" scenes. They're just too hokey for my tastes.

237 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:54:02pm

It must be time for the yuppies to walk down the sidewalk. My neighborhood is positively abuzz with strollers and chest harnesses.

Ain't that America.

238 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:54:22pm

re: #226 Catttt

Good idea but they don't have any listing for it either.

239 David Simon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:54:42pm

Apropos of nothing, I've made it a point to see all of the "best picture" Oscar nominees every year much to my disappointment. Finally, a movie worthy of best picture: The Reader. So well written; so well acted. If you haven't seen it yet, do yourself a favor and rent it.

240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:55:01pm

re: #236 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I love it for the human elements, fast-forward through the "sci-fi" scenes. They're just too hokey for my tastes.

I fast-forward through the human elements.

241 VegasRick  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:55:15pm

re: #232 albusteve

well, not my whole life

I had like about 26 minutes flash before my eyes.

242 Steffan  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:55:38pm

The Foggy Bottom Trafficking in Persons report is out.

Most of the entries are no surprise, but the entry for Saudi Arabia is very grim. A very short quote (compared to the entire listing):

Saudi Arabia made insufficient efforts to protect victims of trafficking. The government operates deportation facilities for runaway workers in several cities and a shelter for female domestic workers in Riyadh. The government sometimes pays workers’ repatriation expenses but not their claims for compensation. However, many victims are not provided access to government facilities or shelter; they must seek refuge at their embassies, negotiate settlements with their employers, and independently obtain funds to return home. Of particular concern is Saudi Arabia’s continued lack of a formal procedure to identify victims of trafficking from among vulnerable populations, such as foreigners detained for immigration violations or women arrested for prostitution. As a result, victims of trafficking are often punished or automatically deported without being offered protection. Women arrested for prostitution are not interviewed for evidence of trafficking and may be subjected to stringent corporal punishment under Saudi law. Women who have been raped by their employers have found themselves imprisoned or sentenced to lashes for “moral criminality.”

Why are we even speaking politely to these people?

They list two Special Cases: Haiti and Somalia.

243 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:56:26pm

re: #230 jcm

Will do.

A just-in-case email reply on the way.
Your idea is better.
This is to (possibly) give him a better backup.

244 brookly red  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:57:38pm

re: #234 Zimriel

Censorware in China: "Those methods range from directing stealthy technological attacks that shut down dissident websites to unleashing swarms of paid commentators to argue the government position on supposedly independent blogs."

Boy, I'm glad our party of government would never stoop so low here. /axelrod

paid commentators? no shit? this snarks for hire!

245 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:57:59pm

re: #240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I fast-forward through the human elements.

heh!

246 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 5:58:41pm

re: #236 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I love it for the human elements, fast-forward through the "sci-fi" scenes. They're just too hokey for my tastes.

And a MAC saves the world!

247 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:00:37pm

re: #246 jcm

And a MAC saves the world!

Yeah, like our computers could talk to theirs!
*BARF*

/idiots!

248 David Simon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:01:18pm

re: #242 Steffan

That's one of many reasons why I have to restrain myself when I'm in the company of those who bemoan our treatment of terrorist vermin.

249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:01:58pm

re: #247 pre-Boomer Marine brat

That was a weak spot.

250 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:02:26pm

Vegas Rick, I hope you never have to go through the horror of laying a loved family fish to rest. Have some respect!

How to Dispose of a Goldfish That Has Died
By eHow Pets Editor
Rate: (35 Ratings)
Step 1
Use a mesh net to remove the dead goldfish from its tank.
Step 2
Place the goldfish in a small box and bury it outdoors if you prefer. Be sure to make a deep hole so neighborhood pets won't get curious and start digging.
Step 3
Place your goldfish on a saucer or wrap it up in tissue if you'd like to dispose of it the other way.
Step 4
Go into the bathroom.
Step 5
Slide the dead fish off the saucer into the toilet bowl, or throw the tissue-wrapped fish in the toilet
Step 6
Say a few words of respect to the dearly departed, if you wish.
Step 7
Flush.
Step 8
Wash your hands and the saucer (if you used one) thoroughly with soap and hot water.
Step 9
Consider changing the tank water and cleaning the net and tank thoroughly if you have other fish or want to get a new one, in case your pet died of disease.
Step 10
Ask your local pet store what type of fish tank cleaning product is appropriate for the net and tank, and clean the tank thoroughly.

251 Catttt  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:02:47pm

Killgore - I found a closed auction for a Cecelian gramophone that went for $133.58.

252 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:02:52pm

re: #247 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, like our computers could talk to theirs!
*BARF*

/idiots!

ROFLMAO!

Hey, a MAC is talented!

253 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:03:49pm

re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That was a weak spot.

heh, it was a "plot device"

254 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:04:48pm

re: #163 avanti

I recall a old Roberts before they decided Akai was OK, and a old Dokorder Dub a Deck that would dupe reel to reels. I'm old enough to have owned a wire recorder too :)

This is older than those.

255 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:06:24pm

re: #252 jcm

ROFLMAO!

Hey, a MAC is talented!

*snicker* as I semi-change the subject ...

How many logic states might a space-faring people's computers have?

/two? ... don't be silly

256 sngnsgt  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:08:06pm

re: #211 VegasRick

Again?

257 Throbert McGee  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:12:09pm

re: #81 LionOfDixon

The genius of Guitar Hero is that it allows average, minimally talented people to emulate famous, minimally talented people.

But not without reason was the South Park ep spoofing Guitar Hero called "Guitar Queer-O."

(Me, I've still got my No-Friend-O 64 console that I dust off and play with approximately once per quarter. 'Cause if I'm going to stare at a glowing video monitor for entertainment, I might as well be interacting with actual people and/or lizards.)

258 jcm  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:12:18pm

re: #255 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*snicker* as I semi-change the subject ...

How many logic states might a space-faring people's computers have?

/two? ... don't be silly

Are they p hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings?

259 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:15:20pm

re: #254 Kosh's Shadow

This is older than those.

Not older than the wire recorder.

260 David Simon  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:18:38pm

Words of wisdom from the man who was - and who should be - the prime minister of Spain:

President Obama has said he refuses to "meddle" in Iran's internal affairs, but this is a poor excuse for passivity. If the international community is not able to stop, or at least set limits on, the repressive violence of the Islamic regime, the protesters will end up as so many have in the past -- in exile, in prison, or in the cemetery. And with them, all hope for change will be gone.

To be clear: Nobody in the circles of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei or Ahmadinejad is going to reward us for silence or inaction. On the contrary, failing to support the regime's critics will leave us with an emboldened Ahmadinejad, an atomic Iran, and dissidents that are disenchanted and critical of us. We cannot talk about freedom and democracy if we abandon our own principles.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

/Shame on you, Spaniards, for giving in to terrorism instead of fighting it.

261 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 6:20:01pm

re: #258 jcm

Are they p hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings?

Naw, I'm merely thinking of the difference in the state-of-the-art. I have no idea at all, but it's gotta be on the order of using flints to light fires versus ... go figure.

262 Arby Dwiar  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 9:04:47pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Kids today have it so easy. My first piece of "semi-serious" recording equipment was a vacuum tube TEAC reel to reel 4 track. Punching in and out was really tricky and often made loud pops. Bouncing tracks was done by plugging and patching cables. I still have it and it still works. Haven't used it in 10-15 years but I can't bring myself to sell. it.

Thanks to eBay, I've got a dozen or so of those old beasts, including a ReVox A77; trust me, you'll never part with it...

(My kids laugh at me with their iPods and me with these 55-pound behemoths!)

263 Arby Dwiar  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 9:24:02pm

re: #141 pre-Boomer Marine brat

BTW, I've got a Dual 1229 turntable packed away. (Don't have a top-grade cartridge in it -- a Stanton 500E IIRC.) Should work fine, though the idler pully probable is somewhat hardened by now.

Anyone into turntables?

Are you serious? Check out Jerry Raksin's Needle Doctor: you'll be amazed!

264 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jun 28, 2009 4:46:16am

re: #175 SlartyBartfast

Misleading AP Photo of the day?

And when I looked a the link this morning, the slideshow was titled "Tobacco Industry"...

(Hey, it's smoking.)


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