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1 freetoken  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:14:36pm

I am losing my brain cells... does that mean I am losing me?

2 boiledwombat  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:15:12pm

It's late and time to turn in to bed...

3 sngnsgt  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:16:09pm

re: #2 boiledwombat

Nite, weet dreams...

4 Racer X  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:16:45pm

I Love L.A.!

H/T Ojoe

5 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:17:08pm
Which statement seems more true: (1) I have a brain. (2) I am a brain.

— Douglas Hofstadter

I go with (3) Brain, brain, brain! What is brain?

6 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:17:27pm

Hiya, Late Night Lizards!
Are we geckos?

7 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:18:05pm

re: #6 Floral Giraffe

Hiya, Late Night Lizards!
Are we geckos?

I can't be, I'm still sober.

8 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:18:07pm

re: #4 Racer X

That's a great shot!
Thank you!

9 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:18:36pm

re: #4 Racer X

I Love L.A.!

H/T Ojoe

I can see my house. :-)

10 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:18:39pm

re: #7 FurryOldGuyJeans

Well, don't you know how to fix that?
Or, don't you want to.....

11 BignJames  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:19:57pm

re: #4 Racer X

I Love L.A.!

H/T Ojoe

Ooooohh.....cap and trade....lots of money to be bilked made there.

12 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:20:02pm

re: #9 Pvt Bin Jammin

I can see my area.
But, do we REALLY need all those lights on at night?
I mean do we need street lights if our cars have headlights?
If we're going to really reduce energy consumption.
Just asking!

13 Akiva Tzippor  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:20:34pm

LA is the cultural capital of the world....J'lem is the spiritual capital of course...

14 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:20:36pm

re: #10 Floral Giraffe

Well, don't you know how to fix that?
Or, don't you want to.....

I'm busy working on it!

15 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:21:18pm

re: #12 Floral Giraffe

I can see my area.
But, do we REALLY need all those lights on at night?
I mean do we need street lights if our cars have headlights?
If we're going to really reduce energy consumption.
Just asking!

Start cutting back on the lights and watch the crime rate soar.

16 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:22:02pm

re: #12 Floral Giraffe

I can see my area.
But, do we REALLY need all those lights on at night?
I mean do we need street lights if our cars have headlights?
If we're going to really reduce energy consumption.
Just asking!

At my age I need all the light I can get to see. LOL

17 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:22:42pm

Rats! Looks like a missed the best troll slaughter we've had here in months. I hope you greedy lizards are satisfied, lounging around digesting those gamy buttocks while I went cold and hungry.

18 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:23:07pm

re: #15 FurryOldGuyJeans

Start cutting back on the lights and watch the crime rate soar.

That's true too.

19 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:23:31pm

Al Franken is a U.S. Senator? You've got to be fucking kidding me. I guess that trip to Bizarro World is now complete.

20 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:24:16pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

Rats! Looks like a missed the best troll slaughter we've had here in months. I hope you greedy lizards are satisfied, lounging around digesting those gamy buttocks while I went cold and hungry.

I think it's still alive. No roast troll here tonight.
Might get one back on the Pat Boone thread, though!
:D

21 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:24:20pm

re: #16 Pvt Bin Jammin

At my age I need all the light I can get to see. LOL

Too many women (and a lot of men) want lots less light so as to hide what they consider is a defect. I'm not so easily fooled.

/ well, I am, but not with someone who is natural. ;)

22 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:24:42pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

Rats! Looks like a missed the best troll slaughter we've had here in months. I hope you greedy lizards are satisfied, lounging around digesting those gamy buttocks while I went cold and hungry.

How did I miss it? I was on that sekret thread & last I saw unamerican was not banned. Was there another?

23 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:25:31pm

re: #20 Floral Giraffe

RETRACT, maybe....

Akiva Tzippor


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24 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:25:33pm

re: #22 Pvt Bin Jammin

How did I miss it? I was on that sekret thread & last I saw unamerican was not banned. Was there another?

That thing wasn't around long enough to get really sneery and primed for a bootin'.

25 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:26:25pm

re: #23 Floral Giraffe

Zero karma? PFFFFFFFT! That is a boil, not a troll.

26 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:27:14pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

Rats! Looks like a missed the best troll slaughter we've had here in months. I hope you greedy lizards are satisfied, lounging around digesting those gamy buttocks while I went cold and hungry.

We saved you some brains.

27 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:28:06pm

re: #26 Sharmuta

We saved you some brains.

Where was this butchering? Sure wasn't in the last thread.

28 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:28:13pm

re: #24 FurryOldGuyJeans

That thing wasn't around long enough to get really sneery and primed for a bootin'.

Let's save it up for a big fourth of July BBQ.

29 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:29:01pm

re: #28 Pvt Bin Jammin

Let's save it up for a big fourth of July BBQ.

Gonna need some real putrid buns if I'm gonna BBQ up them gamy buttocks.

30 pat  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:29:34pm

As usual, I have little to say. But much to sleep.

31 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:30:46pm

re: #30 pat

As usual, I have little to say. But much to sleep.

Good to see you anyway.

32 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:31:20pm

re: #30 pat

As usual, I have little to say. But much to sleep.

And here I can say more than enough for a whole troop of lizards. ;)

33 Cygnus  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:31:58pm

Braaaaaainz!

OK, that'll do. G'nite all.

34 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:32:05pm

re: #32 FurryOldGuyJeans

Is it just me, or have you been AWOL these last few days?

Nice seeing you on the LNDT's.

35 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:32:53pm

re: #34 pink freud

Is it just me, or have you been AWOL these last few days?

Nice seeing you on the LNDT's.

A really nasty thing called real life kidnapped me and held me hostage for a time.

36 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:33:02pm

Hello everyone :-)

37 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:33:41pm

re: #35 FurryOldGuyJeans

A really nasty thing called real life kidnapped me and held me hostage for a time.

Glad you escaped.

38 BignJames  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:34:00pm

re: #36 pink freud


Hiya, Pink!

39 freetoken  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:34:22pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

It looks like it wasn't very sporting, though. Sometimes things are too easy.

However, the earlier flounce-off of Zimriel came as a surprise to many.

40 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:34:32pm

re: #38 BignJames

Howdy Bign!

41 freetoken  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:34:48pm

re: #35 FurryOldGuyJeans

A really nasty thing called real life kidnapped me and held me hostage for a time.

Who paid the ransom?

42 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:35:20pm

re: #39 freetoken

That was stunning.

43 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:35:21pm

re: #41 freetoken

Who paid the ransom?

The beans did.

44 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:35:46pm

Pat! Nice to see you.

45 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:36:26pm

re: #39 freetoken

It was deleted by the time I saw it. Really surprised, though.

46 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:36:28pm

re: #39 freetoken

It looks like it wasn't very sporting, though. Sometimes things are too easy.

However, the earlier flounce-off of Zimriel came as a surprise to many.

Ummm, may I be so bold as to inquire exactly where this occurred?

47 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:37:16pm

re: #37 pink freud

Glad you escaped.

I didn't. ;)

48 freetoken  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:38:51pm

re: #46 FurryOldGuyJeans

I think it was in the Tapscott thread.

49 calcajun  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:40:06pm

Third option: "I eat brains "--the Living Dead

50 calcajun  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:41:18pm

re: #35 FurryOldGuyJeans

A really nasty thing called real life kidnapped me and held me hostage for a time.

Well, that was just gosh darn rude of it. Did the same to me, too.

51 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:41:59pm

re: #49 calcajun

Hi!
Nice to "see" you on a late night!
I enjoy your posts.

52 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:42:21pm

re: #44 pink freud

Hi Pink!
*waves*

53 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:43:17pm

re: #52 Floral Giraffe

Hi sweetpea!

/Ditto on seeing Calcajun.

54 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:44:48pm

You guys realize today's the last day (well ...yesterday, actually) to send in recipes to Reine for Volume II?

55 pat  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:46:41pm

re: #54 pink freud

Hey! I actually did it this time! Osso Bucco Canollini.

56 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:47:10pm

re: #45 Pvt Bin Jammin

It was a curious mix of Charles and Killgore Derangement.

57 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:47:28pm

re: #55 pat

Yum! Sharm, do you have any idea what the artwork will be for this one? I haven't heard a word about it.

58 Kronocide  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:47:39pm

re: #54 pink freud

I sent in classic paella and BBQ lamb roast. We'll see if it makes the cut, or the cutting room floor.

59 freetoken  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:48:05pm

re: #54 pink freud

You guys realize today's the last day (well ...yesterday, actually) to send in recipes to Reine for Volume II?

Um, no, didn't know that.

/then again, skills in microwaving frozen burritos probably are not in high demand...

60 pat  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:48:30pm

Nite all. Off to my book.

61 freetoken  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:48:40pm

Check that - besides knowing how to use a microwave, I'm pretty good with the melon scoop.

62 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:48:47pm

re: #56 Sharmuta

It was a curious mix of Charles and Killgore Derangement.

Enough is retained in a couple of replies that it really was one nasty flounce.

63 pat  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:49:19pm

re: #61 freetoken

That will not cool down the planet. Sorry. lol

64 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:49:38pm

re: #58 BigPapa

Those both sound divine. Paella ....awesome! I have a friend here who had a visitor from Spain ......they made a "cajun" paella, of all things .....shrimp and crawfish and more things than I can name ....it was incredible.

65 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:49:40pm

re: #54 pink freud

You guys realize today's the last day (well ...yesterday, actually) to send in recipes to Reine for Volume II?

You folks really don't need any of my uninspired recipes, really you don't.

66 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:50:02pm

re: #56 Sharmuta

It was a curious mix of Charles and Killgore Derangement.

Wow, really? I was kinda lurking while doing my paper work & saw Charles bye bye post.

67 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:50:24pm

re: #60 pat

Nite, Pat. Sleep well.

68 Kronocide  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:51:07pm

re: #59 freetoken

...then again, skills in microwaving frozen burritos probably are not in high demand...

Microwave the burrito till it's unfrozen but not really hot yet. Melt a bunch of Crisco (or even lard) in a shallow pan till it's 3/8" deep (one fat finger), fry that bugger on medium till it's brown, set in plate to cool down with cheese on it, put fresh salsa over the cheese, then, this is most important... nom nom nom.

69 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:51:45pm

re: #57 pink freud

I don't know, but I'm sure Jaunte will deliver another amazing piece of art.

I know I've sent in some good stuff, and one recipe that's not only tasty, but funny too.

70 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:51:54pm

re: #66 Pvt Bin Jammin

Wow, really? I was kinda lurking while doing my paper work & saw Charles bye bye post.

There are enough fragments still preserved to give quite a gist of what it was all about.

71 Kronocide  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:52:38pm

re: #64 pink freud

cajun paella... the mind reels. I want to master a Hawaiian paella. I think it's time to get my pan clean and oiled up.

72 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:52:45pm

re: #54 pink freud

You guys realize today's the last day (well ...yesterday, actually) to send in recipes to Reine for Volume II?

I never did get anything together, darn. Cooking isn't my thing these days. I suppose I will just have to enjoy trying recipes from the rest of you. There were a few good ones in the first book.

73 Kronocide  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:54:13pm

re: #68 BigPapa

It might need to be medium high if it's not a hot stove. If it's too cold too much oil/lard will soak into the burrito. It should be a vigorous bubble/fry but not splattering.

74 pink freud  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:54:24pm

re: #69 Sharmuta

I'm so pleased with how the cookbook has taken off ....and the artwork itself is worth the purchase of the book

I hope tonight finds you well, Sharm .... I really did enjoy your bookthreads with Syrah on Sowell's book. Haven't read it yet, but just from your posts I learned quite a bit.

75 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:54:29pm

re: #70 FurryOldGuyJeans

There are enough fragments still preserved to give quite a gist of what it was all about.

I'll have to take a look at that thread again tomorrow if I have time, thanks.

76 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:54:37pm

re: #72 Pvt Bin Jammin

I requested the Limerick thread to be in the posting section.
That was awesome.
Amazing what some lizards can do.
I like to read it, can't do it at all.

77 freetoken  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:55:33pm

re: #66 Pvt Bin Jammin

The flounce was more eloquent wordy than many, but it was still pissing on the carpet. I remember it now ... frankly, I would not have guessed Zimriel to have done it.

78 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:57:19pm

re: #76 Floral Giraffe

I saw a few of those go by but didn't see them all. That'll be great!

79 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:57:27pm

re: #77 freetoken

The flounce was more eloquent wordy than many, but it was still pissing on the carpet. I remember it now ... frankly, I would not have guessed Zimriel to have done it.

It seems to have just come out of nowhere, but then that is usually the way of things with established lizards going off the rails.

80 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:58:38pm

re: #74 pink freud

Thank you, Dear. I'm fine and hope you are too. I'm glad the book threads were helpful- they certainly helped me, but I have to give credit to Syrah. She has such a wonderful way of putting things, and she really helped. I'm so glad we read the book together. I'd love to see more Lizards do something like that with other books. (And I of course can't recommend Conflict enough.)

81 Kronocide  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:59:00pm

re: #77 freetoken

Word. I was a little shocked, but it's clear there was some long building latent issues bubbling over. The kicker was 'LGF is a non-conservative website' and essentially Charles non-response about Honduras (aside from posting threads) meant some tacit approval or disproval of it.
What ya gonna do?

82 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:59:04pm

They're Pinky and the Brain

83 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:59:26pm

re: #77 freetoken

The flounce was more eloquent wordy than many, but it was still pissing on the carpet. I remember it now ... frankly, I would not have guessed Zimriel to have done it.

I have to say, I was truly surprised. Always seemed like a good poster.

84 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:59:27pm

re: #82 wiffersnapper

They're Pinky and the Brain

Narf!

85 Sharmuta  Tue, Jun 30, 2009 11:59:58pm

re: #79 FurryOldGuyJeans

It seems to have just come out of nowhere, but then that is usually the way of things with established lizards going off the rails.

No- usually there are tells. Zim was really out of left field.

86 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, July 1st:
Click here for History Channel's July 1st video.

Highlights of this day in history: Teddy Roosevelt and his Rough Riders go up San Juan Hill. Prince Charles officially becomes heir to the throne of England. Yassir Arafat returns to the Gaza Strip after 27 years in exile. Hong Long is returned to China from Britain.

Other notable July 1st events include:

1858 – The joint reading of Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace's papers on evolution to the Linnean Society.

1863 – American Civil War: The Battle of Gettysburg begins.

1870 – The United States Department of Justice formally comes into existence.

1881 – The world's first international telephone call takes place between St. Stephen, New Brunswick, Canada, and Calais, Maine, United States.

1921 – The Communist Party of China is founded.

1931 – United Airlines began service (as Boeing Air Transport).

1963 – ZIP Codes are introduced for United States mail.

1980 – O Canada officially becomes the national anthem of Canada.

1984 – The PG-13 rating is introduced by the MPAA.

2007 – Smoking in England is banned in all public indoor spaces. With the ban already in force in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, this means it is illegal to smoke in indoor public places anywhere in the UK. The ban is also put into effect in Australia.

87 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:00:02am

Hey Night Lizards! To tell the truth, I don't remember what it was like yesterday in Near Iowa. Right now, it's dark and cool.

Well, we made it thru another day in the Twilight Zone.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

88 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:00:43am

re: #1 freetoken

I am losing my brain cells... does that mean I am losing me?

89 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:01:48am

re: #36 pink freud

Hello everyone :-)

Hi, pink!

90 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:03:21am

re: #51 Floral Giraffe

Thanks--getting close to bedtime, though. C'Yall later.

91 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:04:25am

More News from The Twilight Zone. Swedish Parents raising their child Gender-less. Link is to Dr. Sanity's post about it.

92 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:04:40am

re: #90 calcajun

Thanks--getting close to bedtime, though. C'Yall later.

G'Nite, calcajun.

93 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:04:43am

re: #80 Sharmuta

More or less ok, Sharm. Damned heat has been up near 103-105 every day for nearly two weeks. I hibernate inside as much as I can. This is very unusual for around here, especially in June/July. Sept and October is usually when we really swelter. I can't wait for December. LOL (that's when it will be comfortable, next)

94 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:05:27am

re: #80 Sharmuta

I have been recommending the book to people I work with.

95 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:05:40am

re: #80 Sharmuta

Hi Sharmuta!
I bought the Conflict book, and am hoping to get to read it in the next couple of weeks. And, maybe share it with my BIL. I'll search the spin offs for the threads on it. I agree, it is much more pleasant to discuss a book with friends, reading at the same time!

96 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:07:20am

re: #90 calcajun

Sweet dreams.

97 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:07:42am

re: #95 Floral Giraffe

Hi Sharmuta!
I bought the Conflict book, and am hoping to get to read it in the next couple of weeks. And, maybe share it with my BIL. I'll search the spin offs for the threads on it. I agree, it is much more pleasant to discuss a book with friends, reading at the same time!

It is also a big help when the book is a difficult read. This book benefits greatly from being read and discussed in groups.

98 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:09:10am

re: #93 pink freud

More or less ok, Sharm. Damned heat has been up near 103-105 every day for nearly two weeks. I hibernate inside as much as I can. This is very unusual for around here, especially in June/July. Sept and October is usually when we really swelter. I can't wait for December. LOL (that's when it will be comfortable, next)

Yikes! Even Vegas won't get up to 102 this week (although it wouldn't be unusual if it did).

99 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:09:36am

re: #89 gmsc

Hi Pi guy! Good to see you!

100 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:10:33am

re: #99 pink freud

Hi Pi guy! Good to see you!

Howdy, PInk!
;)

Good to see you, as well.

101 freetoken  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:10:38am

re: #83 Pvt Bin Jammin

I have to say, I was truly surprised. Always seemed like a good poster.

Maybe we need to define a new disease - Sudden Flounce Syndrome (SFS)?

102 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:12:31am

re: #100 gmsc

Howdy, PInk!
;)

Good to see you, as well.

If you had any idea how I struggled through my algebra and statistics classes, you would NOT associate me with Pi. LOL

/just not a math kinda girl

103 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:13:31am

re: #102 pink freud

If you had any idea how I struggled through my algebra and statistics classes, you would NOT associate me with Pi. LOL

/just not a math kinda girl

Yeah, but calling you nk freud just sounds wrong.

104 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:13:51am

re: #101 freetoken

Maybe we need to define a new disease - Sudden Flounce Syndrome (SFS)?

LOL I like it.

105 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:14:09am

re: #103 gmsc

Yeah, but calling you nk freud just sounds wrong.

...the biggest problem being that it makes you sound like "North Korea" Freud.
;)

106 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:14:34am

Evening folks...just dropping in while I wind down for bed....Hope y'all are havin' fun = )

107 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:14:38am

File under, YOU are all Chicagoans Now:

(translate, corporations are only evil if they won't pay us off)

secondcitycop.blogspot.com

"Money for MillerCoors
Let's check the recent headlines:
Chicago Schools Cutting 550 Workers

City Council Approves Furlough Days

Union Workers Protest Layoffs at City Hall
And you can choose any of the recent headlines regarding Daley's nephew making money hand over fist and the Olympic Parade of dollars.

Then there's this story slipping under the radar:
MillerCoors LLC officially opened its headquarters in Chicago Friday in a project estimated by Chicago Mayor Richard Daley's office to cost $21.8 million.

The new headquarters, at 250 S. Wacker Drive, for the joint venture that combines Milwaukee's Miller Brewing Co. and Colorado's Coors Brewing Co. will bring 325 jobs to Chicago, according to a Daley press release.

The city of Chicago agreed to provide $6 million in tax incremental financing funds for redevelopment of the property. In addition, the state of Illinois pledged an economic package of roughly $18 million to lure MillerCoors to Chicago over Dallas.
$6 million for MillerCoors. And our contract is two years and a day late so far. But hey, let's just lay off police and fire fighters to cover for our own ineptitude."

108 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:14:57am

From here in Vegas, I bring you a treat from the Bellagio:

109 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:15:12am

re: #105 gmsc

...the biggest problem being that it makes you sound like "North Korea" Freud.
;)

Yep. What a field day he could have with that regime, eh? Someone posted the history of goosestepping earlier .....very interesting.

110 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:15:15am

re: #106 srb1976

Evening folks...just dropping in while I wind down for bed....Hope y'all are havin' fun = )

Evenin', srb!

Having fun as always!

111 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:15:37am

re: #80 Sharmuta

Thank you, Dear. I'm fine and hope you are too. I'm glad the book threads were helpful- they certainly helped me, but I have to give credit to Syrah. She has such a wonderful way of putting things, and she really helped. I'm so glad we read the book together. I'd love to see more Lizards do something like that with other books. (And I of course can't recommend Conflict enough.)

You are a good lead.

112 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:15:52am

re: #106 srb1976

Hi srb! How's the thumb? Better, I hope.

113 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:16:03am

secondcity cop ALWAYS is an interesting read.

114 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:16:29am

re: #106 srb1976

Evening folks...just dropping in while I wind down for bed....Hope y'all are havin' fun = )

Hey, good to see you. Winding down here myself.

115 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:16:40am

re: #86 gmsc

thank god for PG 13.

116 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:16:58am

re: #112 pink freud

Hi srb! How's the thumb? Better, I hope.

Some better, still a bit sore, but not all the time (Yay!)
Thanks for asking!

117 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:18:45am

re: #111 Syrah

You are a good lead.

I'm still afraid to listen to that book. Still not totally over Jonah Goldberg's and still reeling over the Robert Caro trilogy about LBJ. I have it purchased and in my library.

I'm catching up on some history. Just finished the Thomas Paine biography by Christopher Hitchens --which gives a more European viewpoint on Paine.

I'm currently listening to the biography about Cornelius Vanderbilt by T.J. Stiles. Amazing man. Ruthless with a capital "r", but born to make money. No real education, functionally illiterate, but instinctively understood the possibilities of the corporate structure and acted.

118 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:19:00am

We've had both kids out in the hot tub (with the heater turned WAY down...lukewarm) pretty much all week so far. Too much fun, and way easier then pools as Little Man will not do swim trunks (hates wet clothes of any kind)

119 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:19:37am

re: #106 srb1976

Evening folks...just dropping in while I wind down for bed....Hope y'all are havin' fun = )

I can't sleep and am doing laundry. Does that sound like fun.

Glad you-all are here tho!

:)

120 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:19:40am

re: #108 gmsc

What part of town are you in? I'm in North Las Vegas.

121 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:20:34am

re: #115 mrshankly01

thank god for PG 13.

Scary thought for the day: X-rated movies ended before this year's college freshmen were born (NC-17 replaced X in 1990).

122 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:21:32am

re: #120 sngnsgt

What part of town are you in? I'm in North Las Vegas.

I'm about as far east as you can go without living in Lake Mead.

123 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:23:28am

re: #119 ggt

I can't sleep and am doing laundry. Does that sound like fun.

Glad you-all are here tho!

:)

Laundry, the reason procrastination was invented....yep sounds like a blast
//

124 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:24:12am

Here is an intersting book site (linked from Dr. Sanity). I'm afraid to read it.

Hubby and I found a used book store while on vacation. The owner had died and the store was in transition. No great deals, but Lordy, I could have lived there. The man had been in the business for years and had a real knack for it. I just HAD to purchase some.

I could read for years just from my own stacks.

125 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:24:51am

re: #123 srb1976

Laundry, the reason procrastination was invented....yep sounds like a blast
//

Just back from vacation. If I want clean underwear, I have to do laundry.

Some things can't be avoided.

126 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:25:47am

re: #121 gmsc

i feel old.

of course, i wasn't old enough to see them in 1990.

127 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:26:01am

re: #117 ggt

I don't think you need to be afraid to "Listen" to the book if you bought the audio version. Much like any audio book, you may find your self listening to it in parts and in the whole several times through.

Reading the book is more difficult because it is so rich in ideas and implications that it is very easy to stop reading and just sit and think about what you just read. The Audio version pushes you along, not giving the time or leeway to let you thoughts wonder off and chew and fret an idea over. In the same way, the trouble with the audio version is that you may wander off in thought about something you have just heard, and lose your place, having to backtrack the audio to a earlier point. (I did a lot of this.)

128 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:26:39am

If I haven't lately, I want to THANK YOU for all the updings over the years. There are days when seeing Positive Karma really helps. I've been having more and more of those days lately. I blame it on the media.

129 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:26:57am

So am I the only one who gets a not small amount of satisfaction from the Supremes' ruling that leaves Sotomayor tainted even though she will more than likely be confirmed for SCOTUS?

130 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:27:06am

re: #125 ggt

Just back from vacation. If I want clean underwear, I have to do laundry.

Some things can't be avoided.

Oh, I understand (we still have one in the 6 clothing changes a day stage), I just don't envy you....fortunately for me, our washing machine has sprung a leak, and I am not allowed to laundry until better half gets it fixed. He has pnuemonia (that's not so fortunate) and it might be awhile...

131 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:27:52am

re: #126 mrshankly01

i feel old.

of course, i wasn't old enough to see them in 1990.

Those same college freshmen also aren't old enough to have been alive when the Berlin Wall came down.

Blame the Beloit College Mindset List.

132 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:28:15am

re: #129 pink freud

So am I the only one who gets a not small amount of satisfaction from the Supremes' ruling that leaves Sotomayor tainted even though she will more than likely be confirmed for SCOTUS?

I've been out of touch for a while. What happened?

133 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:28:22am

re: #122 gmsc

i won fifty bucks on three pulls on the slots in Mccarran Airport today. Connecting flight.
Love those slot machines, always win.

134 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:28:30am

re: #124 ggt

I'm the same way, ggt. I doubt I will ever own a Kindle. I could lose an entire day in a dusty old bookshop.

135 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:29:48am

re: #131 gmsc

great link. that should occupy some time.

136 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:30:25am

re: #133 mrshankly01

i won fifty bucks on three pulls on the slots in Mccarran Airport today. Connecting flight.
Love those slot machines, always win.

That's one airport where they never want you to be bored. McCarran also has some of the best free wifi anywhere in the world!

137 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:31:05am

re: #127 Syrah

I don't think you need to be afraid to "Listen" to the book if you bought the audio version. Much like any audio book, you may find your self listening to it in parts and in the whole several times through.

Reading the book is more difficult because it is so rich in ideas and implications that it is very easy to stop reading and just sit and think about what you just read. The Audio version pushes you along, not giving the time or leeway to let you thoughts wonder off and chew and fret an idea over. In the same way, the trouble with the audio version is that you may wander off in thought about something you have just heard, and lose your place, having to backtrack the audio to a earlier point. (I did a lot of this.)

Syrah, it's not listening vs. reading that scares me. It's the content. I don't know how much more I can handle of "reality" right now. I do understand about ruminating over read passages in a book. I have a couple regarding reconstruction I can only read a chapter at a time. I tend to get upset that we have so much to learn and that society seems ignore the opportunity to learn from lessons of the past.

I've been trying to take a break (hide) in fiction and more straight-forward non-fiction (history). I find fiction especially healthy for the brain.

138 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:31:40am

re: #130 srb1976

Oh, I understand (we still have one in the 6 clothing changes a day stage), I just don't envy you....fortunately for me, our washing machine has sprung a leak, and I am not allowed to laundry until better half gets it fixed. He has pnuemonia (that's not so fortunate) and it might be awhile...

oh dear, I hope you are enjoying the break.

Hope your better half feels better soon!

139 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:31:46am

re: #132 gmsc

I've been out of touch for a while. What happened?


The second circuit court of appeals -- on which she sits -- ruled against Ricci, the white firefighter, basically saying that the test discriminated against racial minorities. The Supremes overturned her (2nd circ court) ruling.

140 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:32:10am

re: #132 gmsc

I've been out of touch for a while. What happened?

JUSTICE

141 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:32:44am

re: #139 pink freud

The second circuit court of appeals -- on which she sits -- ruled against Ricci, the white firefighter, basically saying that the test discriminated against racial minorities. The Supremes overturned her (2nd circ court) ruling.

re: #140 ggt

JUSTICE

Thanks! Good to hear on both counts.

142 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:32:54am

re: #118 srb1976

Aren't the kids funny when they hate wet clothes?
My niece was a screamer, before she had words.
It took some doing to figure out the problem!
LOL!
Sounds like you have your kiddos figured out!

143 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:33:16am

re: #136 gmsc

yea, the time passed quickly. i have given enough to Vegas n the past, I didn't feel bad about cashing out right away.

144 Mardukhai  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:33:37am

re: #140 ggt

the messiah came.

145 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:33:50am

re: #140 ggt

JUSTICE

YES. That which seems to be in short supply in this PC world in which we live.

146 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:33:59am

re: #131 gmsc

Those same college freshmen also aren't old enough to have been alive when the Berlin Wall came down.

Blame the Beloit College Mindset List.

"The Green Bay Packers (almost) always had the same starting quarterback."

the HORROR!

147 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:35:02am

re: #130 srb1976

Hope your better half is feeling better soon.
Bag the laundry, it sucks to be sick!

148 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:35:09am

re: #142 Floral Giraffe

Aren't the kids funny when they hate wet clothes?
My niece was a screamer, before she had words.
It took some doing to figure out the problem!
LOL!
Sounds like you have your kiddos figured out!

Ever since he quit peeing his pants, even one drop of something like moisture has been enough to set him "It's wet mommy, it's wet"
It doesn't even have to be wet, he just has to think he saw a drop fall on it.....too funny....except when it's not = )

149 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:36:45am

Sleepy time, here.
Good night, lizards of the evening!
Sleep well.
Tomorrow is another day, another fight.

150 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:37:00am

re: #149 Floral Giraffe

Night FG...

151 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:37:09am

re: #149 Floral Giraffe

G'nite FG! Sleep well, nice to see you.

152 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:37:26am

re: #149 Floral Giraffe

Good night...take care = )

153 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:38:17am

re: #144 Mardukhai

the messiah came.

and I missed it!

154 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:38:25am

re: #149 Floral Giraffe

Sleepy time, here.
Good night, lizards of the evening!
Sleep well.
Tomorrow is another day, another fight.

Good night, o long-necked lizard.

155 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:39:34am

re: #137 ggt

The escape into fiction. I know it well. It is a path i have traveled often, much for the same reason that you have mentioned.

Douglass Addams' Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency and The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul are a lot of fun.

These are two fun books. (I confess that I know far more about the problem with the refrigerator in the first book than a person should.)

156 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:41:12am

re: #131 gmsc

"IBM has never made typewriters"

How about --"What is a typewriter"?

freaky thought

157 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:41:18am

re: #155 Syrah

The escape into fiction. I know it well. It is a path i have traveled often, much for the same reason that you have mentioned.

Douglass Addams' Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency and The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul are a lot of fun.

These are two fun books. (I confess that I know far more about the problem with the refrigerator in the first book than a person should.)

I also heartily reccomend Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett....

and I believe I was far more confused by the sofa in (i think) the second book = )

158 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:41:57am

re: #157 srb1976

Yes, and America Gods by Gaiman. As good as Omens.

159 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:42:49am

re: #156 ggt

"IBM has never made typewriters"

How about --"What is a typewriter"?

freaky thought

My mom was just musing the other day that she's gone from the days in which you had to rung up an operator to get another party on the phone (she had one of those phones in her house while growing up!) to the days of the iPhone.

160 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:43:14am

re: #155 Syrah

The escape into fiction. I know it well. It is a path i have traveled often, much for the same reason that you have mentioned.

Douglass Addams' Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency and The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul are a lot of fun.

These are two fun books. (I confess that I know far more about the problem with the refrigerator in the first book than a person should.)

I read the first one a long time ago, I'll check-out the second.

Have you read "Water for Elephants"? Gosh, it was good. I'm still smiling, weeks after reading it.

I enjoy some of the young adult fiction for escape as well. The Artemis Fowl series makes me laugh.

161 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:43:14am

re: #158 mrshankly01

AmericaN Gods that is

162 BignJames  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:43:27am

re: #158 mrshankly01


Does your nic refer to your golf game?

163 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:43:34am

re: #122 gmsc

I'm about as far east as you can go without living in Lake Mead.

I'm here simply because I love the weather, and the Neurologists here than where I came from, NW PA. I lived here before for 11 years but went back east due to a family illness. I'll never do that again. I'm here for good, the only place I ever want to see s**w again is up on Mt Charleston. I don't gamble much, only when friends or relatives I care about visit.

164 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:44:00am

re: #157 srb1976

I also heartily reccomend Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett....

and I believe I was far more confused by the sofa in (i think) the second book = )

I read a lot of Neil Gaimen years ago and found him so totally weird. I hear Stardust isn't as wierd as his usual stuff.

165 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:44:17am

re: #161 mrshankly01

AmericaN Gods that is

Haven't read it, but if it's as good as good omens...I will definitely take a look = )

166 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:44:20am

re: #162 BignJames

Haha, no. Maybe my years of soccer playing...It is a reference to an old Smiths song.

167 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:44:56am

re: #161 mrshankly01

AmericaN Gods that is

One of the most Bizarre books I've ever read.

168 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:45:04am

re: #165 srb1976

It made me wonder what Pratchett contributed to Omens.

169 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:45:13am

re: #164 ggt

Me too. Quit cold right in the middle of American Gods.

170 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:45:35am

re: #167 ggt

loved it.

171 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:45:38am

re: #157 srb1976

I also heartily reccomend Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett....

and I believe I was far more confused by the sofa in (i think) the second book = )

THE SOFA! I forgot. teehee

172 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:46:14am

re: #163 sngnsgt

I'm here simply because I love the weather, and the Neurologists here than where I came from, NW PA. I lived here before for 11 years but went back east due to a family illness. I'll never do that again. I'm here for good, the only place I ever want to see s**w again is up on Mt Charleston. I don't gamble much, only when friends or relatives I care about visit.

I always tell people that one of the best ways to quit a gambling habit is to move to Las Vegas. Living here, you get so bored with it, you don't even think about it!

173 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:46:30am

re: #164 ggt

I read a lot of Neil Gaimen years ago and found him so totally weird. I hear Stardust isn't as wierd as his usual stuff.

He's a bit out there, but this book in particular reads a bit like...Douglas Adams does the apocalypse....sort of...very funny, lots of footnotes....funny footnotes....

But for a real break from reality, I like reading Kiplings Just So Stories out loud to Little Man (he doesn't really GET the stories yet, but he loves to listen to them....the sound of it is fun)

174 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:47:13am

have to switch laundry --bbiab

175 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:49:36am

re: #160 ggt

I read the first one a long time ago, I'll check-out the second.

Have you read "Water for Elephants"? Gosh, it was good. I'm still smiling, weeks after reading it.

I enjoy some of the young adult fiction for escape as well. The Artemis Fowl series makes me laugh.

So much to read, so little time. Sigh.

Bookmarked and added to the list.

176 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:50:22am

re: #157 srb1976

I also heartily reccomend Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett....

and I believe I was far more confused by the sofa in (i think) the second book = )

The sofa was impossible. The Chainsaw was the only rational solution.

177 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:51:02am

2 great ideas for new constitutional amendments:

The Brevity Act:

No law, bill, resolution or any act of Congress shall exceed 2000 words, including all footnotes, amendments and signatures. Congress shall not vote on any item longer than that. Each item requiring a vote shall be read aloud in its entirety in session to a majority of members. Those not in attendance may not vote on the item.

The Truth-In-Legislation Act:

Congress shall pass no bill, and no bill shall become law, which embraces more than one subject, that subject being clearly expressed in the title.

Bonus from the first link: A ready-made speech for those campaigning against Democrats in the 2010 election:

My opponent voted for a Bill he/she never read. Only an idiot would do that. Would you walk into a voting booth with a blindfold on and just push some buttons? Or would you read and consider what you’re voting on before you vote? I promise I will not vote for anything I haven’t read in its entirety.

178 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:51:07am

re: #168 mrshankly01

It made me wonder what Pratchett contributed to Omens.

He must have something, I read somewhere that he is the most shoplifted author in the UK....anything worth stealing can't be all bad (Plus my dad raves about the discworld stuff...I haven't read it yet though)

179 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:51:34am

re: #149 Floral Giraffe

Sweet dreams.

180 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:52:27am

re: #176 Syrah

The sofa was impossible. The Chainsaw was the only rational solution.

But the real question, left for the reader, is how did it get there in the first place....the only answer...it didn't (I think)...it's been a long time = )

181 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:53:02am

re: #175 Syrah

So much to read, so little time. Sigh.

Bookmarked and added to the list.

teehee!

182 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:53:11am

re: #178 srb1976

I need to check it out, then. Thanks.

183 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:53:53am

re: #178 srb1976

He must have something, I read somewhere that he is the most shoplifted author in the UK....anything worth stealing can't be all bad (Plus my dad raves about the discworld stuff...I haven't read it yet though)

I enjoyed the first Discworld. The only one I've read so far.

184 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:55:17am

Good night lizards and thanks for the good company. I am fading fast.

185 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:55:48am

re: #183 ggt

I enjoyed the first Discworld. The only one I've read so far.

I keep meaning to check them out, but never have time....
I like a little pure silliness every now and then...it keeps me sane(ish)

186 Mardukhai  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:55:49am

I actually knew Douglass Adams...

187 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:56:04am

re: #184 Pvt Bin Jammin

Night PBJ.

188 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:56:10am

re: #184 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good night lizards and thanks for the good company. I am fading fast.

G'Nite, PBJ!

'weet dreams!

189 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:56:12am

re: #160 ggt

Artemis Fowl sounds like fun. (Bookmarked and added to the list.)

It reminded me of another series that sounds like it might be of similar vein.

The Stainless Steal Rat series by Harry Harrison.

190 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:56:49am

re: #184 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good night = )

191 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:57:05am

re: #172 gmsc

LOL, ain't that the truth! I only gambled once or twice a month when I'd get a decent bonus from work or out of town friends came to visit. I hit a Royal on a quarter machine @ Arizona Charlie's on Decatur once and I don't think I've dropped a quarter since.

192 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:58:51am

re: #191 sngnsgt

LOL, ain't that the truth! I only gambled once or twice a month when I'd get a decent bonus from work or out of town friends came to visit. I hit a Royal on a quarter machine @ Arizona Charlie's on Decatur once and I don't think I've dropped a quarter since.

I've even tried gambling while waiting for someone in a casino, but it usually winds up with statements like, "Do I have to pull the handle again? I've already pulled it 3 whole times!"

193 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:58:54am

re: #189 Syrah

Artemis Fowl sounds like fun. (Bookmarked and added to the list.)

It reminded me of another series that sounds like it might be of similar vein.

The Stainless Steal Rat series by Harry Harrison.

added to the wish list . . .

I also ennjoyed the Gideon Trilogy --although the 3rd isnt available on audio yet, so I haven't listened to it.

Artemis Fowl, BTW, is a mandatory Audio listen. At least the first book. Very well done.

194 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:59:16am

re: #191 sngnsgt

LOL, ain't that the truth! I only gambled once or twice a month when I'd get a decent bonus from work or out of town friends came to visit. I hit a Royal on a quarter machine @ Arizona Charlie's on Decatur once and I don't think I've dropped a quarter since.

Better half and I always liked Boulder station when we went (once a month or so) but more for the strawberry shortcake than the poker machines

195 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:59:23am

re: #186 Mardukhai

I actually knew Douglass Adams...

I would only want to hear that he was as fun to pal-around with as his books are to read.

196 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:02:47am

Night everyone.

197 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:03:40am

Ack! I have to get the kids up for daycare in like 4 hours.....off to bed with me!

Night folks = )

198 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:05:33am

re: #192 gmsc

I've even tried gambling while waiting for someone in a casino, but it usually winds up with statements like, "Do I have to pull the handle again? I've already pulled it 3 whole times!"

Yep, they don't make these machines just to give away money. People don't understand the odds even on slots.

199 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:05:39am

re: #194 srb1976

Better half and I always liked Boulder station when we went (once a month or so) but more for the strawberry shortcake than the poker machines

It's funny, but the off-strip casinos are beating the strip casinos in terms of percentage of hotel guests that play in the casino.

While 87% of people spend more than 4 hours a day gambling while they visit Vegas, most strip casinos can't even get near 10% of their hotel guests gambling in their casinos. Most of them average around 2-3%!

A 20-year study has found that all those open areas and distractions actually deter people from playing there. People who want to gamble actually feel more comfortable when they can focus on the machines and lose themselves in the gambling.

Ever notice the casinos never advertise in terms of casino odds anymore? "We pay off more than casino X . . ." No, they put all their money into advertising their shows, restaurants and stores because that's what's paying the strip hotel's bill, not their casinos.

200 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:06:09am

re: #196 mrshankly01

Night everyone.

Good night, Mrshankly!

201 mrshankly01  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:07:03am

re: #200 gmsc

Night GMSC. Thanks.

202 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:07:28am

re: #193 ggt

added to the wish list . . .

I also ennjoyed the Gideon Trilogy --although the 3rd isnt available on audio yet, so I haven't listened to it.

Artemis Fowl, BTW, is a mandatory Audio listen. At least the first book. Very well done.

So another is added to the growing list.

As for good audio books, Treasure Island, read by Neil Hunt is very good.

203 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:08:27am

re: #194 srb1976

Better half and I always liked Boulder station when we went (once a month or so) but more for the strawberry shortcake than the poker machines

The eating is good and cheap here in Vegas, they don't want your money in the restaurants, they want it on the tables and in the slots.

204 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:11:57am

re: #198 sngnsgt

Yep, they don't make these machines just to give away money. People don't understand the odds even on slots.

I remember a friend of mine proposing a bet. He said, "I'll fill 3 football fields with M&M's, spread evenly across the field, and stacking them 10 deep. Somewhere, among all those M&M's will be 1 (and only one) silver M&M. For $1, I'll blindfold you, you can go into anyone of the 3 fields, and pick out an M&M at random. If you pick out the one silver M&M, I'll give you $20 million dollars."

The person to whom he was talking said, "That's silly - ludicrous, even! Who would pay to make such a stupid bet?"

His reply? "Everyone who buys a lottery ticket. The odds and conditions are almost identical."

205 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:12:50am

Its is late friends.

This Lizard is beginning to drift.

I have a rough day at the office scheduled for tomorrow.

Must get some sleep.

Goodnight.

Play nice and don't fight over the fruit cup.

206 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:14:34am

re: #205 Syrah

Its is late friends.

This Lizard is beginning to drift.

I have a rough day at the office scheduled for tomorrow.

Must get some sleep.

Goodnight.

Play nice and don't fight over the fruit cup.

Good night, Syrah!

207 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:15:10am

re: #204 gmsc

Yet inevitably, we will see the news stories of the shy cowboy or the group of factory workers who *will* win that lottery.

/ever seen a silver M&M? ;-)

208 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:15:15am

re: #204 gmsc

Exactly. If you live here, I don't know about you, but I can't afford to gamble. It ain't cheap to live out here, but to me, the weather makes it worth it.

209 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:15:28am

re: #205 Syrah

G'nite Syrah. Sleep well!

210 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:15:40am

I remember leaving last night about 1 a.m. (local time).

When I looked at the thread the next morning, there were only about 4 posts between my last post and littleoldlady's fruitcup post an hour later!

211 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:16:50am

re: #207 pink freud

Yet inevitably, we will see the news stories of the shy cowboy or the group of factory workers who *will* win that lottery.

/ever seen a silver M&M? ;-)

Yep - several times in fact. Here in Las Vegas, we have M&M's world, with M&M colors that aren't available anywhere else.

212 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:21:22am

re: #211 gmsc

Well I've never seen one! :P

M&M world ....cool

Been to Vegas once and that was enough. I think that was where I really realized that masses of humanity really aren't my thing.

213 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:24:25am

re: #212 pink freud

Well I've never seen one! :P

M&M world ....cool

Been to Vegas once and that was enough. I think that was where I really realized that masses of humanity really aren't my thing.

It's right next to Coca-Cola World, funnily enough.

We'll have to get you to M&M's World somehow. They not only have unique colors, but you can personalize them with your own words and even pictures now (how's that for a wedding reception desert – M&M's with pictures of the happy couple!).

214 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:24:55am

re: #202 Syrah

So another is added to the growing list.

As for good audio books, Treasure Island, read by Neil Hunt is very good.

thanks!

215 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:30:25am

re: #189 Syrah

I really enjoyed the Stainless Steel Rat books. Great fun!

216 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:33:25am

re: #213 gmsc

I was there ten years ago ....a skiing trip to Tahoe with an overnite in Vegas. I was in a relatively new relationship at the time. The guy became unrecognizable once he hit the casinos ...just went nuts. He won 12 grand in a hot streak on the poker tables and bought a thousand dollar bottle of something or the other to celebrate.

Once we got back here he insisted we make a trip out to one of the local Indian reservation casinos. He lost 6 grand in half an hour and would NOT leave. I left him there and came home alone. That was about the end of that.

It was like he was possessed. I can't do possessed.

/Although I do like a friendly poker game every now and then.

217 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:34:41am

The 21st century version of Bill Gates' "640K out to be enough for anybody" quote:

"We’ve learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone. PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They’re not going to just walk in."
–Palm CEO Ed Colligan in 2006, after first hearing about Apple's plans to release the iPhone

218 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:35:06am

3 hot dogs + tater tots = awesome

219 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:35:37am

re: #218 TheMatrix31

Matrix! Good morning!

/yep, agreed

220 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:36:08am

re: #216 pink freud

I was there ten years ago ....a skiing trip to Tahoe with an overnite in Vegas. I was in a relatively new relationship at the time. The guy became unrecognizable once he hit the casinos ...just went nuts. He won 12 grand in a hot streak on the poker tables and bought a thousand dollar bottle of something or the other to celebrate.

Once we got back here he insisted we make a trip out to one of the local Indian reservation casinos. He lost 6 grand in half an hour and would NOT leave. I left him there and came home alone. That was about the end of that.

It was like he was possessed. I can't do possessed.

/Although I do like a friendly poker game every now and then.

{ { { { pink freud } } } }

We'll have to get you here and create some positive Vegas memories for you.

221 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:39:35am

re: #220 gmsc

No gambling! ;-)

222 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:41:14am

re: #219 pink freud

Matrix! Good morning!

/yep, agreed

Good morning! I havent eaten anything all day!

223 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:42:02am

re: #221 pink freud

No gambling! ;-)

No problem! There's plenty more to do here.

Want to avoid crowds? We'll take you off the strip (Most people never leave it the entire time).

Want to avoid everybody? We'll take you to Red Rock Canyon.

Want to take in a free Fashion Show that appears out of nowhere? Relax at the Bellagio fountains? Eat some silver M&M's? We can do that.

224 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:48:28am

I still havent been to Vegas since turning 21...

225 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:49:03am

I think pink freud is off packing already . . .

<G>

226 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:49:24am

re: #224 TheMatrix31

I still havent been to Vegas since turning 21...

Come back, then! It's time.

227 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:50:23am

re: #216 pink freud

He won 12 grand in a hot streak on the poker tables and bought a thousand dollar bottle of something or the other to celebrate.

To squander big money on sparkling fermented grape juice is a sin. I use to buy this stuff less then $8.00 a bottle.

228 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:50:54am

re: #222 TheMatrix31

Go eat, mon cher!

229 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:51:47am

re: #223 gmsc

That all sounds very nice. :-)

230 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:52:01am

re: #228 pink freud

Go eat, mon cher!

Just before fruitcup?

231 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:52:42am

re: #225 gmsc

Haha! I did leave for a bit! (Why does my 19 year old decide that he needs to put up a shelf in his room at 4 am?)

232 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:53:26am

re: #227 Ateam

The whole thing was rather ridiculous. Just not my thing, at all ....

233 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:53:42am

re: #231 pink freud

Haha! I did leave for a bit! (Why does my 19 year old decide that he needs to put up a shelf in his room at 4 am?)

He's not think of other.

Maybe he's just shelfish!
*RIMSHOT*

234 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:54:21am

re: #233 gmsc

He's not thinking of others.

Maybe he's just shelfish!
*RIMSHOT*

235 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:54:30am

re: #233 gmsc

LOL! My night-owl blood runs in his veins, methinks.

236 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:55:38am

re: #226 gmsc

Come back, then! It's time.

I'd be there if I had some cash!

I just wanna come eat and play poker. Most of my friends are into that club nonsense.

237 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:56:26am

weet dreams all!

238 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:57:03am

re: #237 ggt

weet dreams all!

GN, GGT!

239 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 1:57:39am

re: #237 ggt

g'nite ggt. sleep well.

240 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:00:09am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

241 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:00:32am

PINK! :-)

242 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:02:48am

re: #240 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

Good morning, littleoldlady. Or, as my mom would say, "Good morning, fruitcup!"

Thanks! Yummy!

243 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:02:59am

re: #232 pink freud

re: #227 Ateam

The whole thing was rather ridiculous. Just not my thing, at all ....


:

244 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:04:12am

re: #241 littleoldlady

Hi CUTIE!
And here I was about to fall asleep!

245 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:04:43am

re: #240 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

morning lady (here is noon)

246 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:05:38am

gmsc! :-)

/think twice about clicking the link
//may be THE WORST movie ever made

;-)

247 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:05:47am

re: #240 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

I wonder how fruitcup goes with tater tots and ketchup.....

248 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:06:44am

re: #245 Ateam

morning lady (here is noon)

Ateam! :-)

I would add "noon" to my repertoire but I'm old, and that would be a new trick. ;-)

249 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:07:19am

re: #244 pink freud


Hi CUTIE!
And here I was about to fall asleep!

Sleep is for WUSSES!

How the hell ARE YOU?

250 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:07:44am

re: #247 TheMatrix31

Matrix! :-)

I'm thinking BLECH.

251 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:07:55am

re: #240 littleoldlady

Oinky little me, I snuck in for fruitcup.

252 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:09:45am

theheat! :-)

That's what 5 am is for!

/bon appetit!

253 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:10:14am

re: #249 littleoldlady

I am TIRED! LOL

/And I still have to go put squirrel-o's breakfast out there on his feeder before I can sleep. (I am in the camp that doesn't think of them as rats with fur and a long tail. Or something.)

/How the heck are you?

254 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:10:42am

re: #249 littleoldlady

255 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:11:07am

re: #246 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

/think twice about clicking the link
//may be THE WORST movie ever made

;-)

I don't care for the movie, but I actually enjoy the music.

As for "Good Morning Starshine"? Leonard Nimoy did it best.
;)

256 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:12:00am

re: #254 pink freud

Ok, I am going to make this work.

PF < - - - - WUSS

257 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:12:22am

re: #248 littleoldlady

re: #245 Ateam
I think 12.0+ is afternoon. so u r OK with terminations.

Ateam! :-)

I would add "noon" to my repertoire but I'm old, and that would be a new trick. ;-)

258 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:12:40am

re: #253 pink freud

I have a squirrel that stalks me in the yard. He even goes from tree to tree, to keep track of me. He'll follow me from the house out to the pasture, out to the pond, halfway up the driveway... He's relentless.

He's mean, loud, aggressive, and has this "thing" about me. I have no idea what I ever did to piss him off, but I'm at the point of getting a restraining order against him.

259 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:13:37am

re: #253 pink freud

You LIKE squirrels! Let me send you some.

/PLEASE! ;-)

Me? I'm effen peachy. Thanks for asking.

/hanging in, I guess

260 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:14:22am

re: #255 gmsc

Linky?

261 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:14:59am

re: #258 theheat

What a neat story! Do you think he likes you or hates you? Have you ever given him a cob of corn, or some peanuts?

I raised mine from just a week or two old. He was a hurricane orphan. He doesn't know he is a squirrel. In fact, he may be out there hanging shelves this very moment.

262 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:16:11am

re: #259 littleoldlady

You LIKE squirrels! Let me send you some.

/PLEASE! ;-)

Me? I'm effen peachy. Thanks for asking.

/hanging in, I guess

Now wait. You were effen peachy last time I asked. Haven't things improved?

263 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:16:44am

re: #258 theheat

Bwahahaha! I have a chipmunk with the same problem. It may have something to do with the day Roxanne the dog picked it up in its mouth, shook it half to death, and then FLUNG it hard against the wall of the house.

/get over yourself, Chippy!

;-)

264 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:17:02am

re: #261 pink freud

Definitely, he hates me. Sometimes he even hangs upside down in the tree by my office window, stretching his claws at me, scratching in the air, like he'd like to tear my eyes out if he could just get at me. Other times, he jumps on my office roof, and stares me down through the skylight.

This is not your average squirrel.

265 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:18:55am

re: #263 littleoldlady

I'm ready to turn the JRT loose on him. Only problem is, she's so easily distracted, she might kill him and then head for the next county at about 30mph.

It's what JRTs do.

266 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:18:56am

re: #264 theheat

Hahahahaha! PSYCHO SQUIRREL!

Too funny! Do you have nightmares about him? Have you seen Dianna's icon of the squirrel in the overcoat? Maybe he can do an intervention or something.

267 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:19:20am

re: #262 pink freud

I was? I guess I'm in a rut. :-/

"Things" are not going to "get better". "Things" are just going to be coped with better, planned for better, and gotten used to...more.

/one way or another

268 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:20:16am

re: #267 littleoldlady

There's the pragmatic littleoldlady we all know and love.

I know JUST what you mean!

/grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

269 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:21:15am

re: #266 pink freud

No nightmares, but he does startle me often enough. I'll be taking the newspaper in the house or something, and next thing I know he's there, cussing me out from under the deck. Other times I'll be getting in my car, and he shoots out from under it, then turns around and screeches at me, waving his little claws in the air.

I swear, he's crazy.

270 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:22:00am

Morning Lizards.

271 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:23:30am

re: #260 littleoldlady

Linky?

Looking . . . he did it on the simpsons, and I'm trying to see if I can find it as video or audio . . .

272 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:23:59am

rightside! :-)

273 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:24:27am

re: #269 theheat

He was probably abused as a child. :-)

If it were me, I would buy a big bag of raw peanuts and start throwing him some every time you see him. Just to see if that will change his behavior. But then, I am an old softie.

274 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:25:02am

re: #272 littleoldlady

lol!

275 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:25:33am

re: #270 rightside

OMG, i have to go to bed! The daytime lizards are already showing up!

Goodnight everyone :-)

276 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:27:02am

re: #275 pink freud

OMG, i have to go to bed! The daytime lizards are already showing up!

Goodnight everyone :-)

G'nite, pink!

277 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:27:39am

'Night PINK! :-) Great seeing you...

278 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:27:48am

Question for electronic gadget Lizards:

I have an old console radio, an old tube radio console, and I want to gut it and put in some kind of a CD player/mp3 player that you could load the CDs from the front, like a normal CD player. In other words, I'd like it to still look like an old radio.

Does anyone make stand alone components like this? I'm not one of those ham radio/tube collector/soldering buffs. My electronics expertise consists of plugging a cord into an outlet, and loading a CD into a tray. Carpentry-wise, I'm pretty handy.

I've seen the Crosley "nostalgia" models, but I read they pretty much suck. And I'd like to use the console I have.

Any ideas?

279 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:27:49am

re: #260 littleoldlady

Linky?

Here it is! The second voice is Leonard Nimoy's. The first is that of Mr. Burns.

280 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:28:56am

re: #276 gmsc

re: #277 littleoldlady

Goodnight you two. You rock, the both of you. See you t'morrow!

281 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:29:00am

re: #275 pink freud

Good night pink. I'll consider the peanuts, but I'm not as eco-friendly toward vicious critters as some ;-)

282 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:30:22am

re: #281 theheat

Good!

/he jus' needs a lil lovin .........

Let me know how that works out. Good seeing you, heat.

283 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:31:40am

re: #279 gmsc

GRRRR! What is that? Windows Media? It never works on this machine. What do I need to upgrade or download?

284 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:35:07am

re: #283 littleoldlady

GRRRR! What is that? Windows Media? It never works on this machine. What do I need to upgrade or download?

Oh! We need to get you hooked up with a few essentials (assuming you're using your new Mac).

Perian
Flip4Mac (Make sure you're clicking on the Free player, not the paid components)

Between these 2, you'll be able to watch and/or listen to just about any format out there!

285 BignJames  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:36:54am

re: #269 theheat

No nightmares, but he does startle me often enough. I'll be taking the newspaper in the house or something, and next thing I know he's there, cussing me out from under the deck. Other times I'll be getting in my car, and he shoots out from under it, then turns around and screeches at me, waving his little claws in the air.

I swear, he's crazy.


He thinks you're a nut.

286 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:37:24am

re: #284 gmsc

No, I'm on the PC. When I came down here earlier MNTS was using the mac.

287 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:38:50am

re: #286 littleoldlady

No, I'm on the PC. When I came down here earlier MNTS was using the mac.

And the PC isn't playing Windows Media? Maybe you'd have to download the latest version appropriate to your set-up (if possible).

288 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:39:00am

re: #285 BignJames

Um, yeah.

He's plotting my demise, is what he's doing. He wants to take me down, singlehandedly.

Maybe it's some kind of mafia squirrel initiation or something.

289 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:41:33am

re: #287 gmsc

It IS Windows Media? That's supposed to work - in fact I already have something open that I'm watching that's WM and works great.

/I swear, technology is gonna be the death of me! :-(

290 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:42:02am

BignJames! :-)

291 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:42:34am

senator al franken.

*gag*

wtf were they thinking?

292 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:42:44am

re: #289 littleoldlady

It IS Windows Media? That's supposed to work - in fact I already have something open that I'm watching that's WM and works great.

/I swear, technology is gonna be the death of me! :-(

Yep - but it's audio. I don't know what to do for you there.

293 gmsc  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:42:58am

Well, good night, all!

294 BignJames  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:43:06am

re: #290 littleoldlady


gooood mornin'!

295 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:44:23am

re: #291 rightside

senator al franken.

*gag*

wtf were they thinking?

Quite an assumption you've got going there...

296 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:44:43am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

297 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:45:19am

re: #293 gmsc

Good night, gmsc.

298 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:50:17am

Uh oh. Got quiet awfully fast...

299 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:53:39am
300 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:54:30am

re: #291 rightside

Yesterday, U said being at VA. What is the full state's name? (I looked US map but didn't find reassembles)

301 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:54:57am

re: #299 littleoldlady

You think that's the answer? You might be onto something.

I keep vampire hours, anyway, so this is the best time of day to catch me semi-coherent. That's not saying much.

302 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:55:27am

re: #300 Ateam


VA is the state abbreviation for Virginia.

Where are you from?

303 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:57:32am

re: #301 theheat

I keep vampire hours, anyway, so this is the best time of day to catch me semi-coherent. That's not saying much.

We're probably related...

304 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:57:44am

re: #302 rightside

VA is the state abbreviation for Virginia.

Where are you from?

Tel-Aviv, Israel.

305 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:58:31am

re: #304 Ateam

Cool! I was in Haifa way back in '89 when our ship pulled in for liberty.

306 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:59:38am

re: #303 littleoldlady

Problem is, in regular daylight hours, where normal people function, I can be a little... slow. I try to take naps to maintain some semblance of civility between - say - noon and 8pm.

307 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:01:14am

re: #303 littleoldlady

We'd probably be far more interesting if we developed an exotic drug habit to help us through our chronic insomnia.

Seems to work for A-listers. Until they overdose, of course.

308 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:01:25am

re: #300 Ateam

Yesterday, U said being at VA. What is the full state's name? (I looked US map but didn't find reassembles)

Here is a list of all our state abbreviations, for future reference.

309 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:05:31am

re: #305 rightside

Cool! I was in Haifa way back in '89 when our ship pulled in for liberty.

There is a common understanding that Haifa's women are d most beautiful in Israel.
So after mandatory service in the army they are moving to Tel-Aviv...

310 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:06:20am

re: #309 Ateam

I saw some very lovely ladies there. Most of them were holding Uzi's too.

311 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:08:01am

re: #306 theheat

RARE is the day when I don't take a nap - anything from a 20 minute power nap to a full 2 hours. This way I have two productive periods each day and I get a lot more done. The few times I don't get my nap in I'm something akin to a zombie by the end of the day.

I've been like that since my teenage years. My mother took me to the doctor for "tests" over and over, since according to her, "Napping is not normal". Finally the doctor told her, "ENOUGH! That's her metabolism. That's the way she is."

They don't make doctors the way they used to...

312 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:08:36am

re: #307 theheat

I'm old. Coffee does enough damage. ;-)

313 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:08:37am

My persuasive communications professor was rattling on about the lack of the voter turnout in this country and how it's pretty much a joke. He then went on to mention that this was obviously why guys like Arnold, Reagan, and Jesse Ventura can get into office.

I just said out loud, "Ironic."

Wonder if anyone understood.

314 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:08:38am

re: #308 rightside

Here is a list of all our state abbreviations, for future reference.

Thanks a million. I'm confuse time & again with those abbreviations's location.

315 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:14:51am

re: #311 littleoldlady

I know the feeling. I have been this way since childhood. I didn't know until I was an adult it was considered a disorder.

And it really isn't insomnia, per se. It isn't as if I go to sleep, but can't fall asleep. It's just that I have no desire to sleep at night, and I feel more awake at night. I love nighttime. I get all kinds of stuff done!

And I live for naps, too. During the summer time, sometimes I even take my naps in the sun.

Like a lizard/

316 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:20:06am

Mornin, mornin...morning Lol :) , rightside, theheat, James, Ateam...all.

Big day and weekend, after close to 10 months of fighting insurance companies(really, the guberment) & contractors we're beginning to transition back home. In fact, we plan on being home for the 4th - even though Bolivar is still such a mess we won't be setting off fireworks this year. :(

To show a little of how much as changed this was our kitchen 9-11-08(the day before we left), the kitchen after Ike's visit(yes, the drawers were full of water) and from a couple of weeks ago as we began detailing out.

We're just thrilled to be getting back home just in time for this years season(NOT!).

317 jim in virginia  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:22:56am

Good morning all.
Littleoldlady, I have a silly question re Judaism. For some reason this popped in my head as I was falling asleep last night.
Does Jewish identity derive from one's mother? (If your mother is Jewish, father is not, you're Jewish; but reverse isn't true?)
If so- King David wasn't Jewish. His (great?) grandmother Ruth wasn't Jewish.
Like I said, silly question.

318 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:23:10am

re: #316 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Morning, and I love the new cabinets!

Hope all will go well.

319 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:23:21am

re: #315 theheat

I know the feeling. I have been this way since childhood. I didn't know until I was an adult it was considered a disorder.

And it really isn't insomnia, per se. It isn't as if I go to sleep, but can't fall asleep. It's just that I have no desire to sleep at night, and I feel more awake at night. I love nighttime. I get all kinds of stuff done!

And I live for naps, too. During the summer time, sometimes I even take my naps in the sun.

Like a lizard/

I'm exactly like this.

I took a nap from 8pm to 1am for no reason and, I'm wide awake. I don't like sleeping at night, no reason why.

320 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:23:33am

re: #316 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Your kitchen was/is again beautiful. Sorry about the bad luck, but you've come up swinging. The kitchen rocks.

And welcome back, in time for the 4th.

321 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:24:19am

re: #316 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

aboo! aboo! aboo! :-)

You should have told me!

/our spare bedroom ain't wonderful, but it's better than an underpass!

Boy, it's a good thing you had "before" pictures...

/what a sin! it was gorgeous

322 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:26:01am

re: #319 TheMatrix31

For some weird reason, I always felt like other people were missing out for all the hours they wasted sleeping. (I know, it makes no sense to think so.)

Never really been afraid of the dark... When the weather's nice, I'd just as soon be outside, potting plants by moonlight, or looking at the stars.

323 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:26:52am

re: #322 theheat

For some weird reason, I always felt like other people were missing out for all the hours they wasted sleeping. (I know, it makes no sense to think so.)

Never really been afraid of the dark... When the weather's nice, I'd just as soon be outside, potting plants by moonlight, or looking at the stars.

Eh, I love sleeping, and hate waking up early. I'll probably wake up at 3:30pm tomorrow.

324 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:27:22am

re: #317 jim in virginia

{My Rove!

I'm not really the expert, but...Yes, "Jewishness" is inherited from the mother. Ruth was a convert, and a convert to Judaism is considered Jewish.

325 jim in virginia  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:27:22am

re: #316 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
aboo, where are you located?
Idle curiousity

326 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:28:07am

re: #324 littleoldlady

WHOOPS! {My Rove}

/close hug ;-)

327 Erik The Red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:28:42am

Morning Lizards.

I knew it. The LNDT is full of NIGHT WALKERS. :) I will be join the DAY WALKERS in 3 days time. Will still try and pop in for Fruitcup from time to time. Does anyone do anything like Fruitcup during the day?

328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:29:14am
The majority of Muslim clerics around the world do not regard wearing the burka, unlike the head cover, as a religious obligation under Islam.

From an article I was just reading called "Al Qaeda warns France of revenge for burka stance".

Is that little quote accurate? I did not know that.

329 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:30:57am

re: #327 Erik The Red

I call it "Conversations with Charles".

Well, actually... I really don't call it anything. Just wanted to answer with something clever.

Fail.

330 jim in virginia  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:31:09am

re: #324 littleoldlady

{My Rove!

I'm not really the expert, but...Yes, "Jewishness" is inherited from the mother. Ruth was a convert, and a convert to Judaism is considered Jewish.


I figured that was the explanation. Plus rabbinic law does not apply very well to a legendary figure a few hundred years previous.
Speaking of David, my wife heard Governor Sanford compare his situation to that of David and Bathsheba.
I didn't know Bathsheba was from Buenos Aires.

331 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:31:13am

re: #323 TheMatrix31

Don't apologize, you're preaching to the choir ;-) Makes you wonder, how many "power breakfasts" have we missed, collectively?

The thought makes me laugh until I pee my pants, because I seriously don't miss power breakfasts, and I plain ole don't give a chit that I should miss them.

332 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:31:32am

re: #327 Erik The Red

Erik! :-)

You're kidding, right?

/fruitcup during the day...what a concept! ;-)

333 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:31:37am

re: #327 Erik The Red

Erik!

I don't think so.

The day is almost here.

334 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:31:45am

re: #310 rightside

I saw some very lovely ladies there. Most of them were holding Uzi's too.

Nowdays they are holding another armorers.
[Link: www.news.com.au...]

335 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:32:09am

re: #327 Erik The Red

Maybe if you promise to bring the Tupperware back, littleoldlady would send some home every night?

336 jim in virginia  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:33:14am

re: #326 littleoldlady

WHOOPS! {My Rove}

/close hug ;-)


I read that and thought you were getting really friendly. The best thrill of the morning.

337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:33:45am

re: #330 jim in virginia

Sanford sent this lady's husband to the front to be killed?

338 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:35:54am

Thanks rightside, theheat, Lol...as the old saying goes, never let the SoB's get you down and at times they came real damned close.

Still do, now that I think about it :)

In one sense we were lucky, we still had a house standing. In another sense we were really unlucky - we still had the house standing. LOL

339 jim in virginia  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:36:11am

re: #337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sanford sent this lady's husband to the front to be killed?


No, Sanford was on his roof and saw her taking a bath.

Where is Nathan when we need him?

340 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:36:44am

re: #331 theheat

Don't apologize, you're preaching to the choir ;-) Makes you wonder, how many "power breakfasts" have we missed, collectively?

The thought makes me laugh until I pee my pants, because I seriously don't miss power breakfasts, and I plain ole don't give a chit that I should miss them.

The worst are the people who tell me that they take 8am classes so they can have "the rest of the day free".

I'd rather sleep.

341 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:38:02am

Drive by post before I go back to work again.

Dave Angel: Eco Warrior. Saving the planet isn't easy when you have a tacky girlfriend.

342 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:38:05am

re: #330 jim in virginia

David's was a mighty sin, sometimes explained as Da Debbil Made Me Do It! ;-) It wasn't just the adultery but he also arranged for Bath Sheva's husband to meet an untimely death to get him out of the way. He paid dearly for it. If Sanford is lucky ... he won't.

/consequences are a bitch, ain't they?

343 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:39:03am

re: #325 jim in virginia

Across the Bay from Galveston - Bolivar Peninsula(Island), Crystal Beach.

344 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:39:32am

re: #340 TheMatrix31

Those make-it-happen daywalkers screw it up for everybody.

Assholes.

345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:39:46am

re: #339 jim in virginia

No, Sanford was on his roof and saw her taking a bath.

Your faith was strong, but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

One of my favorite song verses ever... even with the mixed metaphor it is (IMHO) stunning.

346 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:40:44am

re: #345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And Jeff Buckley's voice would break your heart a thousand times over, without even trying.

347 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:43:27am

re: #338 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I knew a person who accidentally lit her kitchen on fire, because it was the only way her husband would relent to remodeling.

348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:43:59am

re: #346 theheat

Oh, heck yeah.

Many versions of that song that I love. The one I can't listen to?

Leonards'. Ugh.

349 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:44:17am

re: #347 theheat

Where is this person?

350 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:44:40am

re: #347 theheat

That's nuts.

351 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:44:40am

re: #334 Ateam

You just made my morning. Upding for you!

352 songbird  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:45:18am

Good morning from beautiful Hagerstown, Maryland.

Al Franken has a new gig - the US Senate. At least he admits he's a comedian.
Our El Presidente is again on the wrong side of the people, chumming up to Chavez and Castro. He's getting redder all the time.
The sun still rises in the east and sets in the west.....Wonder how soon BO will demand that it stands still over the US for solar power.

353 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:46:27am

That's for me, folks. My mythical "productive time" is slipping away... :-(

Good day, ALL!™

354 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:47:34am

re: #348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A lot like Bob Dylan, Neil Young, or Kris Kristofferson. Terrific songwriters, not-so-terrific singers. They have their moments singing their own songs, but it's usually when they're owned by someone else they become epic.re:

re: #350 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

#349 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

All I can say she was... a desperate woman. Desperate and resourceful.

355 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:50:10am

re: #354 theheat


I like it when he sings "First We Take Manhattan".

"Hallelujah" is simply too great a song for him to sing.

356 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:52:34am

re: #355 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Jeff Buckley owned it, still owns it, and will forever own it. Leonard wrote a great song, but it didn't have any soul until Jeff Buckley gave it one.

357 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:56:06am

re: #345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Your faith was strong, but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

One of my favorite song verses ever... even with the mixed metaphor it is (IMHO) stunning.

358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:56:52am

re: #356 theheat

Hey, let's you and me sit around and discuss the song.

It freakin' shocks me that Rufus Wainwright's version is better known.

John Cale's version is my favorite.

359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:58:31am

re: #357 Ateam

Thanks! ugh.

360 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 3:58:39am

re: #358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Or, worse, is the people who think Jeff Buckley wrote it.

Give credit where it's due. I like Rufus Wainwright, a lot, but he can't touch this.

361 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:00:23am

For you techies out there, Firefox 3.5 is now available for download.

See what's new here.

362 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:00:53am

re: #351 rightside

Pleaz look at Pic. No. 29
[Link: www.news.com.au...]

center girl, with reddish-parachutist's shoes is my neighbor's daughter!

363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:01:03am

re: #360 theheat

Or this...

364 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:02:05am

re: #348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, heck yeah.

Many versions of that song that I love. The one I can't listen to?

Leonards'. Ugh.

Looks forward to hearing your version. Has to be better than Leonard's

365 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:03:17am

re: #362 Ateam

Say hello to her for me!

366 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:06:16am

re: #363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Respectable. I'd say my second favorite version.

Leonard's hurts my ears, but g-bless him for writing it.

367 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:06:55am

re: #353 littleoldlady

Good night, soon-to-be-daywalker.

368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:07:13am

re: #364 rightside

Actually, the song fits the timbre and range of my voice as well as any song ever written. That may be the reason I love the song so much.

I am a pretty serious amateur vocalist.

369 songbird  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:08:49am

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Actually, the song fits the timbre and range of my voice as well as any song ever written. That may be the reason I love the song so much.

I am a pretty serious amateur vocalist.

As a vocalist and a vocal music teacher, I'd love to hear your voice.

370 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:09:13am

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can we look forward to seeing you at non-smoking, all-vegetarian, karoake bar any time soon?

//

371 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:11:11am

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm just messing with you.

It's a great song.

372 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:12:54am

re: #369 songbird

Me too! I admire anyone who has the guts to stand up and sing, and who can really sing.

373 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:14:39am

re: #356 theheat

another version

374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:16:45am

re: #369 songbird

My voice is tremendously out of shape... funny, my best friend is a voice teacher.

Bass/Baritone. Low C (on a good day) to High A range. Hit an A sharp in public (Frank Butler, Annie Get Your Gun)... Nothing like pinning the back row in an auditorium against the wall.

My motto on high notes? Just because you can hit a note, does not mean you should hit a note.

375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:17:24am

re: #366 theheat

Amen.

376 songbird  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:19:41am

re: #374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My voice is tremendously out of shape... funny, my best friend is a voice teacher.

Bass/Baritone. Low C (on a good day) to High A range. Hit an A sharp in public (Frank Butler, Annie Get Your Gun)... Nothing like pinning the back row in an auditorium against the wall.

My motto on high notes? Just because you can hit a note, does not mean you should hit a note.

Totally agree! Too many singers try to impress with the high notes when they should let the color and flexibility of their voices shine!

But, as my dear music professor would say, the audience likes it high, loud and fast.

/there's a joke in there somewhere~~~~~

377 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:20:38am

Bone Jewer y'all.

That's how they say 'howdy' in the south of France.

I sounds kind of dirty, I know, but there you are.

Anybody want to bitch about the inherent unreliability of electronic devices and the sorry state of customer service of companies?

378 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:20:41am

re: #376 songbird

Vocal gymnastics irritate me.

379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:22:20am

re: #377 razorbacker

I can't rely on my electronic instruments. And wow... the customer service sure sucks these days.

380 theheat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:24:03am

re: #378 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, I used to date a gymnast, and he was pretty vocal ;-)

With that rather unsavory comment, I'm calling it a night.

Good night, All!

381 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:24:43am

re: #378 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Vocal gymnastics irritate me.

I have a problem with that singing style, so popular at a point in the past, where vocalists feel obligated to do that thing with their voice (I think they call it tremalo, or some such) that sounds like a semi-yodel.

It grates.

382 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:24:48am

Hallelujah for Leonard Cohen

[Link: www.boston.com...]

383 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:28:18am

re: #379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't rely on my electronic instruments. And wow... the customer service sure sucks these days.

By golly, since you brought it up.

In the past three years I have bought three Creative Labs MP3 players for my wife and myself.

This demonstrates either my loyalty, or that I'm a touch 'slow' (as my relatives say, "bless his heart"). Two out of three have gone belly up, and the customer service folks inform me that it would be cheaper to buy a new unit rather than repair them.

With that record, why in hell would I buy another product from Creative Labs?

384 songbird  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:28:25am

re: #378 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Vocal gymnastics irritate me.

Vocal gymnastics were all the rage in the early 1800s, and Rossini supplied the scores. Amazing works of flexibility!

Earlier in the late baroque, the Castrati dazzled audiences with the extreme speed, power, range and brilliance of their voices. The Da Capo aria was the perfect medium for them (ABA form) since the first part was repeated and (often excessively) embellished.

Twentieth century works (not all) have tended to be angular with difficult intervals - even in choral music.

385 3 wood  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:31:28am

Good morning.

Look for the market to open on the upside as the market continues to trade sideways waiting on clear signs from the economy as to where things are going.

Even the NYT is concerned:
In 2nd Quarter, Stocks Gained, but for How Long?


The good news is that Wall Street finished its best quarter in years on Tuesday — part of a dizzy spree that lifted the broad market 35 percent since early March.

The not-so-good news? It would take almost three more rallies like that to push the Dow Jones industrial average back to 14,000 and return markets to where they were before the financial crisis. On Wall Street — where exuberance, irrational and otherwise, is usually an art form — there is a nagging fear that the market is again losing its footing.

Despite signs that this downturn is easing, many Americans are more downbeat about the economy now than they were when the stock rally began. Unemployment is rising. Home prices are falling. Many corporate earnings are still weak.

Now, the NYT still has a long way to go before they see any connection between the economic malaise and Obama's socialist anti-growth polices, and thinking about the prospect of considering the concept of maybe reporting the truth and asking the Obama Administration a tough question.

But it's a start.

386 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:32:19am

Good morning, lizards.
How's everyone?

387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:33:50am

re: #385 3 wood

Mornin' Wood!

re: #386 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose!

388 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:35:40am

re: #385 3 wood

I had decided to stop investments in mutual funds, and only purchase stocks in companies that A. made products that I knew and trusted B. paid a good dividend and C. were majority American companies.

I now suspect that my investments should be in Asian and Indian companies,and that I should avoid the pain that Cap and Trade is going to bring.

389 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:35:49am

re: #384 songbird

The vocal gymnastics I am referring to are the "Aretha" type of National Anthem's that take fifteen minutes to belt out.

390 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:35:50am

re: #377 razorbacker

Bone Jewer y'all.

That's how they say 'howdy' in the south of France.

I sounds kind of dirty, I know, but there you are.

Is the dialect differ in south France from, let's say, Paris?

391 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:36:30am

re: #388 razorbacker

Phillip Morris, NOK? ROC?

392 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:37:49am

re: #390 Ateam

Is the dialect differ in south France from, let's say, Paris?

Well, I once had a young lady tell me that with my cornpone accent that I'd better stick to the south of France. So that's the only logical explanation that I can think of.

393 Mithrax  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:38:08am

Contrary to popular belief, there is one special day of the year when a beaver slapping it's tail on the water means "party time".

Today is that day.

*slaps his tail on the water and brings out the 24*

Happy Canada Day Lizardim !

394 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:39:14am
395 3 wood  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:39:48am

Mortgage applications drop sharply:

Week-to-week mortgage applications fall 18.9%: MBA


The volume of mortgage applications filed last week dropped a seasonally adjusted 18.9% from the week before, as refinancing activity plunged, the Mortgage Bankers Association reported Wednesday.

Applications for mortgages to refinance existing home loans fell 30% for the week ended June 26 -- putting the MBA survey's refinance index at its lowest level since November.

Meanwhile, the week-to-week pace of applications filed for mortgages to purchase homes was down a seasonally adjusted 4.5%


New applications are down 18.9% and refinancings down 30%.....Sounds like some folks are not down with the Obama economic experience yet.


Get ready for spin from the left to explain why this drop is actually:

1. A good thing

or

2. Bush's fault

396 3 wood  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:40:16am

re: #387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good morning Veg.

397 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:40:54am

re: #391 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Phillip Morris, NOK? ROC?

I think that tobacco stocks are going to be under such pressure from steadily rising taxes that they'll either move or just consolidate out of existence.

Phillip Morris does seem better politically connected than the others, for what that is worth.

398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:41:25am

re: #393 Mithrax

I used to sing "Oh Canada" for our local hockey team. Learned the lyrics at the library...learned the tune from my son's MLB video game.

After five times, the office of the team called me and asked me if I had a fax number. I said, yeah. They said, good. Let us fax you the correct words to the Canadian National Anthem.

oops.

399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:42:14am

re: #397 razorbacker

My point exactly. They'll probably just say "Eff it" and move to China.

400 songbird  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:42:29am

re: #389 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The vocal gymnastics I am referring to are the "Aretha" type of National Anthem's that take fifteen minutes to belt out.

Those were pretty ugly. I know it is part of the R&B style, but some people just can't do it. Aretha needed to stick with what she does best.

401 songbird  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:42:51am

re: #386 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.
How's everyone?

Good Morning!

402 3 wood  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:44:33am

re: #388 razorbacker

I now suspect that my investments should be in Asian and Indian companies,and that I should avoid the pain that Cap and Trade is going to bring.

I think we have come to a time where the Chinese are more capitalist than we are.

Cap and Trade is going to cause negative economic impacts far an long reaching. The upshot is to make fosslie fuels so expensive that alternate sources look cheap by comparison. You been to Europe recently. Very costly fuel and that is thw ay we are headed. I paid about $9 a gallon for gasoline in Ireland a year ago, and I expect that we will be headed that way soon if this passes.

And the Obama supporters will go along with this cheering.

403 Mithrax  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:44:34am

re: #398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I used to sing "Oh Canada" for our local hockey team. Learned the lyrics at the library...learned the tune from my son's MLB video game.

After five times, the office of the team called me and asked me if I had a fax number. I said, yeah. They said, good. Let us fax you the correct words to the Canadian National Anthem.

oops.

Have a beer anyways ya big lug!

404 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:45:29am
405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:47:16am

re: #403 Mithrax

I am hard to embarrass. But, I about "shat" myself.

406 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:47:35am

re: #402 3 wood

Not even pricing gasoline by the liter (or litre, as you wish) hides the pain for me.

I like my Conoco/Phillips stocks, they are more 'American' that most, but I don't see long-term good in their future.

407 Mithrax  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:47:57am

re: #405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am hard to embarrass. But, I about "shat" myself.

Because I gave you a beer? damn son, we need to have canada days more often! have another!

408 SixDegrees  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:48:16am

re: #402 3 wood

I think we have come to a time where the Chinese are more capitalist than we are.

Cap and Trade is going to cause negative economic impacts far an long reaching. The upshot is to make fosslie fuels so expensive that alternate sources look cheap by comparison. You been to Europe recently. Very costly fuel and that is thw ay we are headed. I paid about $9 a gallon for gasoline in Ireland a year ago, and I expect that we will be headed that way soon if this passes.

And the Obama supporters will go along with this cheering.

So, why haven't alternative energy sources blossomed all over Europe? Why are they huddling in the cold and dark, instead?

Could it be that the alternatives aren't really alternatives at all?

409 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:49:55am

re: #404 taxfreekiller

There has been some drilling in the Fayetteville Shale that runs down the Arkansas River valley for natural gas.

I think that is winding down, and most drilling companies are moving on, with the productive wells in place.

410 3 wood  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:52:32am

Illinois minimum wage jumping to $8 an hour today:
Minimum wage increases to $8 today

BLOOMINGTON -- While the increase in Illinois' minimum wage to $8 per hour today may be welcome relief for those who need to pay rent and buy groceries, small business owners aren't thrilled.
"No business likes the government telling you what to pay," said Moe Davis, owner of Tobin's Pizza, 1513 N. Main St., Bloomington.
More business owners than not said they oppose the 25-cent increase, saying it could cause an increase in prices and lead to fewer jobs.
The increase was signed into law in 2006 by former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. It is significantly higher than the federal minimum wage, which is currently $6.55 per hour and scheduled to increase to $7.25 July 24.


Anjali Julka, spokeswoman for the Illinois Department of Labor, said more than 390,000 Illinois workers will earn another $520 per year, if full-time.
However, Rich Zeller, co-owner of Avanti's, said the increase could eventually lead to higher prices at his two Bloomington-Normal restaurants.
Zeller said cost of wages will increase about 1 percent because about 80 of his 320 employees are affected.
While Davis doesn't anticipate raising prices, he'll make due with fewer workers.


Just what we needed, more costs for the small businesses to deal with and some of them cutting jobs.

What many people don't realize when unfinded mandates like this hit business, is that no one sends them the money to pay for the added costs. YYou either pay higher prices for the goods/services or you eat the social cost of higher unemployment.

411 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:52:32am

re: #408 SixDegrees

So, why haven't alternative energy sources blossomed all over Europe? Why are they huddling in the cold and dark, instead?

Could it be that the alternatives aren't really alternatives at all?

Haven't you been listening?

We simply haven't invested enough. If we spend enough money it'll all be just fine.

412 3 wood  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:56:31am

re: #404 taxfreekiller
We are going to see the destruction of a lot of business. The socialist dream is arriving.

And the Obama supporters will cheer every step of the way.

413 Gella  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:56:38am

good morning lizards :)

414 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:58:02am

re: #402 3 wood

I think we have come to a time where the Chinese are more capitalist than we are.

Cap and Trade is going to cause negative economic impacts far an long reaching. The upshot is to make fosslie fuels so expensive that alternate sources look cheap by comparison. You been to Europe recently. Very costly fuel and that is thw ay we are headed. I paid about $9 a gallon for gasoline in Ireland a year ago, and I expect that we will be headed that way soon if this passes.

And the Obama supporters will go along with this cheering. continue to blame George Bush.

Just had to edit that last sentence.

415 3 wood  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:58:17am

re: #408 SixDegrees

So, why haven't alternative energy sources blossomed all over Europe? Why are they huddling in the cold and dark, instead?

Could it be that the alternatives aren't really alternatives at all?

They don't work well, but the socilists will tell you that this is because they have not tried socialism long enough yet.

416 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:58:22am

re: #412 3 wood

We are going to see the destruction of a lot of business. The socialist dream is arriving.

And the Obama supporters will cheer every step of the way.

You sound kind of blue, 3wood. Hang around a little bit and Avanti and iceweasel will cheer you up. Maybe even Killgore Trout, if he's still giving PGI Obama a chance.

417 3 wood  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 4:58:59am

Time to go to work. I have to pay for my neighbors mortgage.

418 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:00:29am

re: #415 3 wood

No really this time it is going to work. Forget about all the other times it has failed miserably.

419 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:03:01am

Morning to the recent arrivals.

420 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:04:37am

The Wages of Chavismo

[...]
We mention these not so small details because they are being overlooked as the world, including the U.S. President, denounces tiny Honduras in a way that it never has, say, Iran. President Obama is joining the U.N., Fidel Castro, Hugo Chávez and other model democrats in demanding that Mr. Zelaya be allowed to return from exile and restored to power. Maybe it's time to sort the real from the phony Latin American democrats.
[...]

Better said, maybe it's time to sort the real from the phony American democrats, period.

Remember Honduras!

421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:06:26am

They're starting to tear my old high school down. A good friends (he's a teacher there now) has been talking about it on his facebook page. Everybody's very melancholy about it.

I asked if I'd get in trouble if I took my sledgehammer and took a few whacks at it. Was a miserable place for me.

422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:07:17am

re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A good friends? Sheesh. PIMF.

4 years of grammar one in that shithole.

423 3 wood  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:08:15am

re: #416 razorbacker

You sound kind of blue, 3wood. Hang around a little bit and Avanti and iceweasel will cheer you up. Maybe even Killgore Trout, if he's still giving PGI Obama a chance.

I am an experienced economist. I am trained to look at economic facts and data and draw accurate conclusions about the coming economic scene. For over 20 years I professionally invested 100's of millions sucdessfully based on said conclusions. I have been on faculty at several Universities teaching on the subject at undergrad, graduate, and even on line classes. My economic lectures have been recorded and used for research purposes.

I don't believe any of those 3 are so trained or qualified. Kilgore admits (his words, not mine) that he knows nothing about economcs, and he proves that here on a regular basis. I do have hopes that one day he might wake up.

The other two are beyond help in my opinion.

424 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:10:10am

re: #423 3 wood

I am an experienced economist. I am trained to look at economic facts and data and draw accurate conclusions about the coming economic scene. For over 20 years I professionally invested 100's of millions sucdessfully based on said conclusions. I have been on faculty at several Universities teaching on the subject at undergrad, graduate, and even on line classes. My economic lectures have been recorded and used for research purposes.

I don't believe any of those 3 are so trained or qualified. Kilgore admits (his words, not mine) that he knows nothing about economcs, and he proves that here on a regular basis. I do have hopes that one day he might wake up.

The other two are beyond help in my opinion.

Yeah but someone high up has their backs so be careful what you say.

425 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:12:31am

re: #423 3 wood

I'm not an experienced economics whiz, other than having a degree in Econ and Business and having lived a moderately successful life for over 50 years.

I find it depressing to see my country skipping down the socialist path.

I suppose that I could expand on that, but the statement stands on its own merits.

426 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:12:44am

re: #392 razorbacker

Well, I once had a young lady tell me that with my cornpone accent that I'd better stick to the south of France. So that's the only logical explanation that I can think of.

myself, J'aime Paris!

D best restaurant I ever had been to - "Le Grand Vefour"

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

427 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:13:33am

Iran delegates storm out of interfaith meet during Peres speech

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

That outreach going well Obama?

428 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:13:54am

re: #410 3 wood

Illinois minimum wage jumping to $8 an hour today:
Minimum wage increases to $8 today


Just what we needed, more costs for the small businesses to deal with and some of them cutting jobs.

What many people don't realize when unfinded mandates like this hit business, is that no one sends them the money to pay for the added costs. YYou either pay higher prices for the goods/services or you eat the social cost of higher unemployment.

I wrote an article/essay on that very thing last year for my journalism class.

429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:14:43am

re: #425 razorbacker

Stop calling it Socialist. They're gonna come up with a new word. There are many government employees working on the name now. Give them some time.

430 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:15:09am

re: #423 3 wood

I am an experienced economist. I am trained to look at economic facts and data and draw accurate conclusions about the coming economic scene. For over 20 years I professionally invested 100's of millions sucdessfully based on said conclusions. I have been on faculty at several Universities teaching on the subject at undergrad, graduate, and even on line classes. My economic lectures have been recorded and used for research purposes.

I don't believe any of those 3 are so trained or qualified. Kilgore admits (his words, not mine) that he knows nothing about economcs, and he proves that here on a regular basis. I do have hopes that one day he might wake up.

The other two are beyond help in my opinion.

Boom.

431 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:15:37am

re: #427 Nevergiveup

Clinch or pucker?

432 notamolly  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:15:53am

re: #417 3 wood

Time to go to work. I have to pay for my neighbors mortgage.

I have to pay for other people's food and housing and medical care (better than mine no less). That is why I work.

433 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:16:20am

re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Stop calling it Socialist. They're gonna come up with a new word. There are many government employees working on the name now. Give them some time.

Socialism with an American face is still socialism.

You can call a dog an elephant, but you won't be able to break it from licking its own balls.

434 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:16:24am

Good morning all. A happy Canada Day to all my fellow refugees in and from Canuckistan. How are things going today? Any trolls still on the grill from last night?

/making an assumption of the trolls due to the Pat B. thread last night.

435 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:16:53am

re: #419 rightside

good morning to you rightside. Work picture down at Hood looking real good.

436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:16:56am

I am getting pretty bi-polar when it comes to the way I am feeling toward the current government and our future.

Anybody got a "Fukitol"?

437 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:18:35am

A 42-year-old policeman, Yigal Elisha, collapsed and died Wednesday after a fitness test in Beersheba.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Anybody ever run in Beersheba in the middle of the summer. I did. I almost died. Gee it's hot.

438 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:18:36am

re: #433 razorbacker

Socialism with an American face is still socialism.

You can call a dog an elephant, but you won't be able to break it from licking its own balls.


Just call it 0bamunism. Doesn't matter what name you call it, it still sucks.

439 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:19:35am

re: #436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am getting pretty bi-polar when it comes to the way I am feeling toward the current government and our future.

Anybody got a "Fukitol"?

Here you go FBV, took my dose yesterday.

440 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:20:34am

re: #435 soxfan4life

good morning to you rightside. Work picture down at Hood looking real good.

Hey what got into Baltimore?

441 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:21:10am

Went to bed last night the Sox were in a rain delay, but leading Baltimore 10-1. I wake up this morning and they lost 11-10. WTF.

442 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:21:32am

re: #436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am getting pretty bi-polar when it comes to the way I am feeling toward the current government and our future.

Anybody got a "Fukitol"?

One...two...or the whole damned bottle?

443 Erik The Red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:22:14am

re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Stop calling it Socialist. They're gonna come up with a new word. There are many government employees working on the name now. Give them some time.

I will just stick with FUCKED UP!

444 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:23:07am

re: #441 soxfan4life

Went to bed last night the Sox were in a rain delay, but leading Baltimore 10-1. I wake up this morning and they lost 11-10. WTF.

Shit happens

445 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:24:42am

re: #444 Nevergiveup

Shit happens


Too bad, because Smoltz looked good befoe the rain.

446 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:26:17am

re: #445 soxfan4life

Too bad, because Smoltz looked good befoe the rain.

We should both be worried about Tampa Bay. they are on a 7 game run and closing in. I't gonna be a dog fight and only 2 of us are gonna make it.

447 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:29:09am

re: #446 Nevergiveup

We should both be worried about Tampa Bay. they are on a 7 game run and closing in. I't gonna be a dog fight and only 2 of us are gonna make it.


I'm not worried about Boston, they have a glut of starting pitching and Epstein will pull the trigger on a trade if he feels it necessary. Big Papi has come around and the Sox are hitting. Am a little concerned about Mike Lowell, but Kotsay can play 1st and Youk 3rd. Nice pickup by the Yanks getting Hinske, he was on the Sox 2007 WS Champs team.

448 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:29:27am

Braves won a nailbiter in extras against the Phillies...after Mike Gonzalez giving up back to back homers to put the Phillies up 4-3 in the 8th.

Never thought I'd say this, but thank God for Martin Prado.

449 rightside  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:30:59am

re: #435 soxfan4life

Great news! I hope it works out for you.

450 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:33:34am

re: #449 rightside

Great news! I hope it works out for you.


I have 2 E-8's and a E-7 giving me sterling references and talking to people on my behalf.

451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:34:04am

Well folks, with my new "fitness" (played an hour of full court basketball with 18 year olds the other day) now I have to help someone move.

When you're really out of shape, people don't ask you to help them move.

Shit.

452 Ateam  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:34:21am

re: #437 Nevergiveup

A 42-year-old policeman, Yigal Elisha, collapsed and died Wednesday after a fitness test in Beersheba.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Anybody ever run in Beersheba in the middle of the summer. I did. I almost died. Gee it's hot.

Not only there. Here is now 99 F. (in the shadow. not that a normal man be under the sun')

453 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:35:08am

re: #450 soxfan4life

I have 2 E-8's and a E-7 giving me sterling references and talking to people on my behalf.

What kind of work?

454 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:35:23am

re: #451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well folks, with my new "fitness" (played an hour of full court basketball with 18 year olds the other day) now I have to help someone move.

When you're really out of shape, people don't ask you to help them move.

Shit.


Unless you have a pick up truck.

455 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:35:25am
456 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:36:26am

re: #453 Nevergiveup

What kind of work?


Support systems for the Army. Wheeled Vehicles and Ground Support.

457 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:36:56am

I note, not that it matters to anyone, that tax revenues to the US government fell once again during the second quarter.

I don't see what can possibly go wrong, right there.

458 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:38:53am

Holy Crap! Charles is up early and there's a new thread.

/head spinning.....

459 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:39:31am

re: #457 razorbacker

I note, not that it matters to anyone, that tax revenues to the US government fell once again during the second quarter.

I don't see what can possibly go wrong, right there.


Just wait until 0 lets the tax cuts expire. You know those ones responsible for record tax revenue, that will surely make the numbers go up right.////

460 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:39:34am

re: #454 soxfan4life

Unless you have a pick up truck.

Friend of mine has a pick-up... bumper sticker...

Yes, it is my truck.
No, I won't help you move.
461 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:42:35am

re: #460 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


Guy that owns the local variety store has a bumper sticker in the store, he is trying to get one for me. It says I'll keep my guns, money, and freedom. You can keep your change. Should be a hit when I get to Texas.

462 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:43:25am

re: #459 soxfan4life

Just wait until 0 lets the tax cuts expire. You know those ones responsible for record tax revenue, that will surely make the numbers go up right.////

Taxes from wages fell just under 10% (mirroring, somehow, the unemployment rate) while corporate tax revenues fell over 30%.

I think those numbers reflect the state of the economy better than any pie in the sky senario offered.

463 soxfan4life  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:49:31am

re: #462 razorbacker

Taxes from wages fell just under 10% (mirroring, somehow, the unemployment rate) while corporate tax revenues fell over 30%.

I think those numbers reflect the state of the economy better than any pie in the sky senario offered.


And yet the MSM spin machine will continue to not report them. Or find a way to report it as good for 0.

464 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:51:44am

re: #463 soxfan4life

And yet the MSM spin machine will continue to not report them. Or find a way to report it as good for 0.


Try to google it. Darned few hits.

465 DaddyG  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:53:40am

I did some consulting in Vegas in the 90s. Being a non-drinker, non-gambler and non-whathappensinvegas kind of guy there wasn't much for me to do. Then I discovered the FAO Swartz toy store outside of Caesars Palace. Holy Cow did I spend a lot. Let's just say the family had a good Christmas.

Everything in that city is designed to make you feel rich. And it works.

The LDS Temple is very nice.

466 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:55:42am

Happy July oneth everyone!
The burning question of the day ..........
What the heck happened to Steve Colbert right ear?

467 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:58:04am

re: #466 reloadingisnotahobby

Happy July oneth everyone!
The burning question of the day ..........
What the heck happened to Steve Colbert right ear?

He doesn't listen to anything coming from the right. Why bother with an ear on that side?

468 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:14:06am

re: #455 FrogMarch

Obama throws Honduras under the bus.

i can't think of anything i like abt. o
nothing.

469 RexMundi  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:16:00am

I have a brain, and that's what I am.

The answer is (3) Both (1) and (2).

470 Lincolntf  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:20:30am

re: #455 FrogMarch

Morning all.
One of the strangest things I've read about the Honduran crisis is that the Presidents of Argentina and Ecuador, along with the "heads" of the UN General Assembly and OAS are planning to fly back into Honduras with Zelaya later this week. WTF is that all about? Do they think that their presence will prevent Zelaya from being arrested/re-exiled?

Obama's homie going home?

471 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:22:36am

re: #465 DaddyG


The LDS Temple is very nice.

They have a whole temple dedicated to acid? I could see that in San Fran...
/

472 Pianobuff  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:28:45am

What on God's green earth is this?

473 aggieann  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:26:20am

re: #472 Pianobuff

What on God's green earth is this?


Quick! Pour some salt on it!

474 ihateronpaul  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:35:44am

are we going to see the right wing media strongly denounce this?

[Link: crooksandliars.com...]

Scheuer: The only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama bin Laden to deploy and detonate a major weapon in the United States. Because it's going to take a grass-roots, bottom-up pressure. Because these politicians prize their office, prize the praise of the media and the Europeans. It's an absurd situation again. Only Osama can execute an attack which will force Americans to demand that their government protect them effectively, consistently, and with as much violence as necessary.

Beck: Which is why, I was thinking this weekend, if I were him, that would be the last thing I would do right now.

Humanity is filth.

475 Dan G.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:49:22am

(2)

476 RunningBare  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:07:55am

re: #65 FurryOldGuyJeans

You folks really don't need any of my uninspired recipes, really you don't.

I'm Mohawk. You people sure as hell dont' want any recipes from me. ;)

477 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:24:02am

"Business as usual" in dealing with Iran.

Human Rights on the Backburner

478 nines09  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:37:30am

I think, therefore I forget.


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